JAR Media Posdact - Stupid Madagascar Men - JARCAST Episode 217

Episode Date: August 24, 2020

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 02:40 Housekeeping 07:18 GCSE/A-Level Drama Update 17:10 The JAR JAR 22:32 Twitter Speed Round 31:29 Alex changed his Gamertag (again) 32:44 James got banned from Twitter 33:45 Mid Break 36:36 Reddit Questions 36:48 A Mission for James... 37:59 The lost JAR Episode 38:42 Thoughts on Jelly 40:52 Why does Ruben hate Happy Feet? 44:27 Best & Worst Character Designs 51:02 The Never-Sleep Pill 52:14 Stupid Madagascar Men 52:35 Are we... Normal? 56:04 What we did after 6th Form 1:02:37 Has JAR improved our... 1:04:59 Psychology JARling 1:08:40 Thoughts on 'Military Entertainment'

I keep forgetting to wear, like, socks and shoes on jar videos, so I've got my disgusting feet on the... Don't mind. We've all got pretty disgusting feet, so it's fine. No, but you get these comments from these people saying, like, ooh, nice little dirty totesy on there, my name. Oh, little dirt, I can see that dirt nugget. Oh, yummy. would you would you for 50 you have to pay 50 pounds to lick a little bit of dirt

from between Riley Reed's toes no how much so 50 pounds yeah you have to pay that much but you can film it and put it in a video on YouTube no you might be able to make more than 50 pounds off that video yeah I would do it for many many vits or something like foot fetish site and just sell it.

Because it's Riley Reid so you probably I don't think she's done foot fair I feel like that would be such a clickbait YouTube thing and then you could talk

about it like in a podcast and get more money okay yeah I'll do it I'll suck the dirt nugget from Riley Reed's feet would you suck a dirt nugget from my foot

no because I actually but I pay you 50 quid no I don't need that 50 quid that badly Jamie okay a hundred maybe

good afternoon morning evening on night ladies and gents and welcome to jarcast episode two one seven a number i've got to admit i'm not that keen on i'm looking forward to getting past this one oh i love a two one seven it's just there's something about this number two one seven it makes me feel uneasy and not relaxed but it's double halo jim what's the opposite of being relaxed um being sick as fuck squirtatious being squirtatious yeah well speaking of uh i'm joined here by jim Hello! And the passionate napper himself, James.

Yeah, I am present. Yeah, did I even say the good afternoon morning bit? I guess I did. Yes. I got to admit, I'm a little bit tipsy right now, so if my hosting skills are... Alex just down like 15 bottles of, like, gin. It's fucking mental in this house today. Before we get too deep into the episode, I want to shout out the patrons over at Patreon.

Can I just give them a yo, yeah? Give him a, Jim, give him a fucking yeah, yeah, right now. Ready? Three, two, one. Yeah, ooh, yeah. That was cool. Yeah, I liked that. It's kind of creepy as well. It's got that sort of cult vibe.

Mm-hmm. Which is essential to the Jarm Media podcast being what it is, you know? Yeah. Housekeeping. Let's just start with the important stuff right here right now, okay? I want to start with speaking of Patreon. Um, I got something to ask you guys. Yep, shoot

Should we move the Patreon shoutouts To the end of the JARCust I say this because I've been noticing this while editing it Ever since adding this Patreon segment During the ad section halfway through It tends to add at the moment About three minutes of extra kind of content

Really Which is fine Except for the fact that it is right Slat bang in the middle of the episode So I figure for the people who aren't patrons, the people who don't care, they're going to be, they're kind of forced to skip over three minutes or so. So I'm wondering if it would be better to move it to the end of the show, but then does that make it for the patrons less valuable? I've actually put a vote

up on our Patreon. So if you want to head over there, even if you're not a patron, you can vote on this. Yeah, I think, I think with the awesome growth of the Patreon, it was fine when it was like 20 people. Yeah, we've got 70 plus dibby tiers and above to read out now so it's getting longer and longer each episode so I think it's sort of I would assume it improves the quality of life for everybody if we do it yeah the only thing we care about is the kind of consistency and the quality of the show like so I figure go to that vote and next episode we'll talk about it decide then for this episode we'll leave it in that halfway point because the vote hasn't been decided yet I think that's fair what do you think James I I've just

seen from a video point of view when I've seen it, it's like because it jumps from like, you know, the set of how we are now. When we're doing the pageing segment, we're like in different locations. It's just, it's like a jump. It's like a different frame.

It just looks a bit strange. The reason I don't think it's particularly egregious is that we have done this time code update. So if it is something that bothers you, you can just look exactly where the time codes are, skip over it. There's already the halfway point with the ads for the t-shirts and stuff.

So, I don't know, we got to get feedback on that before we make any decisions. So head over to the Patreon, our Patreon. It's in the description. Leave a vote, let us know what to do. In other news, we got some feedback from the last episode. William says, Was sort of fucked?

Then they reversed it, so it's all good. That's all he said. What do you think he was even referencing? What was William even on about? Was sort of fucked, then they reversed it, so it's all good. Do you think they mean the lighting? Maybe. I don't know what else.

Did we say anything controversial? I can't really remember. We called Portland Lines 2.3, not very good. There were a couple of controversial statements. We'll get into in a minute. But Orr Smith said the blasphemous HD comment fucking annihilated me. Last episode, for some reason, the word blasphemous kept coming up. And as the host, every time I was reading it, I was saying blasphemous HD instead of blasphemous.

And none of you got it. So every time I just started. laughing and you're like why you're laughing and I didn't explain why and that was why what is blasphemous HD? Do you not remember blasphemous HD? During that early 2015-2016 reactionist period

with the blasphemous HD is I don't know if he's still going now but one of those like reaction channels Wait which is the one that said If you hate everything Doesn't that mean you hate yourself? I have no recollection of any of them Rashad

The Reactor I think you're thinking of right no this is blasphemous HD profile feather said perfect lighting my dudes Mediro said best lighting ever has this moody jazzy feeling of the podcast really like it

BCDDP said timestamps are the best thing to happen to the JARCust and honestly I gotta say I agree to be honest No no it is really good because it's just like when I With how much we like jump around topics It probably really does help to

Yeah because I watch the cast. I generally do watch it when it goes live because I forget, as soon as I leave, I forget everything that's happened. So I do watch it to like see the funny bits and just see being able to like scroll through and see the bits that I might have remembered are funny.

So easy. I don't know if other podcasts are doing it, but so funny. Yeah, I don't know, but it makes our episodes much easier to navigate, especially when there are those topics you don't care about like Destiny 2. Destiny 2 or Call of Duty or anything like that. of course last episode a big topic was talking about this a level gccc drama that's going on in the UK it was kind of early news back then it's developed a bit more now the main kind of thing the main result is that it appears to have been U-turned so all of that effort put into creating this algorithm and assigning people their results has kind of just been pulled back so now it's in teachers hands I think to kind of which is a bit more IQ of the actual I'd prefer

the teachers deciding over an algorithm but I mean we got a few I said last episode please any jarlings who are going through this right now and have been associated some kind of score I actually want to hear from them and hear what they've got as a result and we got some some replies in the comments Talbaska says about the results I have a close friend who has predicted a CBB and came out of his results with an EED there's no logic at all to how the results ended up. John Cooper said, I got massively downgraded by the algorithm, scored AAB in year 12 mocks, was predicted 3A stars, passed the Cambridge law admissions test, got accepted for an interview, later rejected thankfully, and had the teacher's

submitted grade of AAB. Despite all of this, I only received BBC, which in fairness isn't a terrible grade but nowhere near enough to get me into my firm and insurance choices. University of Bristol and Cardiff. Hopefully now they are awarding teacher submitted grades. I'm able to meet my reduced offer at Bristol. And Fatty Spin says, my A-Levels were fucked. I was predicted A-B-B

meeting requirements for my first choice uni. On Results Day, I got B-CD and I've now got A-CC after the government U-turn. I now have to do the exams for A-levels. I got the C's in, in October. Sorry, in October. Also causing me to defer my uni-place

to next academic year. That, no, the thing I was thinking of, it's going to fuck uni placements. Like, so bad, and it is. Yeah, it's completely, which is so fucked. So I imagine they're going to be out of school then for like a year, relating for the placement for uni. But if you have the option to take an exam anyway, what's the point of the guessing?

You know, like... Well, because the height of COVID was right during exam season, wasn't it? Yeah, but I mean, it... Surely it would be better for everyone to be delayed instead of just some people having to delay it. I guess the problem is you either do, you either do this stupid algorithm thing and fuck everyone, or you just delay it. But you can't really delay it because the whole structure of education is about getting a grade by the end of GCSE or A level and then using those results to go into some other form of academia, whether it be uni or apprenticeship. It's just sort of showing that our system is full. Claude late.

Yeah. Yeah. Especially with the U-turn and just how many, how much like money and resources have been wasted on all of this. It's so fucking embarrassing. It really is. Like, I want to know if it was like the protest,

because I was generally protests in London, though, but if that's what was like, oh, this is, we've actually done like a stupid decision. Because who are they, who are they actually talking to about this?

So I don't think maybe this isn't a good idea in the first place? Just seems completely ridiculous to me. I know. It's sort of the education sector of our government is sort of notoriously They've been bad for a long time Yeah it's just been getting worse over the past decade

But disgusting weeb actually Left a comment saying Not gonna lie It did kind of hurt to hear my favourite YouTube channel Disp people who go to private schools Not really fair Well obviously not going after individuals We're kind of just mocking the concept of private schools

Yeah I don't see how we dissed people i guess because we're saying we're saying like how obnoxious we would be if we were private schooled and stuff like that right private school jar we're just doing a joke yeah i would i would yeah no but i think you can't that i don't think

there is a valuable argument against people that going to private school do just have a better chance at doing well in terms yeah we're not attacking individuals as i say it was just the concept we have a problem with i think i think um it's fair to say at least i have a chip on my shoulder that some people just get given that whereas we were all three of us went

to a renownedly terrible school and all three of us well two of us I mean it didn't it didn't like much below than what we were capable of it didn't like help any of our trajectories in terms of no no I think I genuinely think my trajectory has been so fucked by my secondary school experience which is just awful yeah I think I don't think my this like I it's gonna be self-defeatist but I left school

the low bottom where it couldn't get any worse so it could only go up so it's just like it's fine for me but you were more leaning into the kind of apprentice kind of yeah I would yeah because I makes a lot of sense for me though it's because I I've not got the mind for exams and like studying I have a like a do mind

so I have to do like I physically do things like friendships yeah but that's mean I know some people like that but There's nothing wrong with... It's an incredibly complex topic that none of us are educated on, so... Well, yeah, because of the school we went to. Yeah, we're all dumb because of...

Yeah, we just don't know what the fuck we're talking about. So, I guess people who did go to part of school, don't take it insult from it because it's just, you know, chat. Yo, do, you privileged cuntz. Its hat says, this was an epic cast way less over-professional than the last few. And I just noticed this down

because I was fucking shocked that anyone called Jaya over-professional. Yeah, what are you talking about? What? I don't know. I guess it's because we have like... I guess objectively now, compared to early shit, this is really structured and professional,

compared to what it has been. Compared to a cast being just shouting about Coe and shit for like an hour. Which was the worst. That was the bottom bowel. I think that's largely considered like the worst episode. There was. Yeah, it's actually infuriating. Yeah, but also a necessary hump

that we had to... Yeah, you need to have your worst episode, you know? And it's forever proven that we need to eat before we record. Yes. No, that's like the biggest life lesson for us. When we were recording that, it was just like, I can't think, I can't talk, I'm hungry, I need to eat. We need Domino's Pizza. Yeah.

Well, or Indian or Chinese or whatever. It was Domino's Pizza most of the time. Yeah, yeah. Compo Flask has an interesting comment saying, when you think about all of the interests of James, it's a combination I've never seen before. and I gotta say I agree this is part of what is so alluring about James to me is just the you just never know what you're gonna get and what random when I'm like editing the jar car some of the facts James just spews out like I just never would have guessed James I'd agree

with the knowledge aspect but in terms of main interests James can you list off your main interests briefly cars yeah like anime Gundam anime call of duty yeah there's like military stuff But military stuff is just mechanical vehicles. Yeah, I feel like those three things really, really do go together. It's like there's a big thing of vehicles and they all stem off. So it's like the same big... And the history of vehicles. Yeah, I feel like those things do have...

There is some logic, yeah. But then I also like history, like actual genuine history about, like, other stuff. I guess it's more, for me, I just never know what James is going to feel on something. I just can't predict what James is going to... Yeah, I would agree with that. So it's like the wild card aspect for me. do have just weird knowledge of just a obscene amount of things. Yeah, I'm just like editing a cast and then James just whips out some random historical fact.

Yeah, I feel the fuck. I never knew. This was buried deep within you. I think James is both, he's capable of being the least profound yet the most. Mm-hmm. Do you know what I mean? No, what does it mean? It's just a roll of the dice. Like, whatever, that's what I love about when James just opens his mouth. You just don't know what you're going to get. It's so exciting for me. Yeah. Bill Murray is a banana.

to wrap this section off says you guys should bring back the double camera angle from the episode 63-ish era and I wanted to bring this up to say that I mean we do have two cameras it would be possible but the problem is it just adds so much editing time because I don't have a setup which automatically changes between them and records it by itself so I'd have to do it manually yeah and it's like two varsity different actual camera qualities where you have to kind of we edit one to match like the other one Well, yeah, there was a, I think it was the last of us, as good as they say video, we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We recorded two angles, and, because I just hadn't figured anything out about this camera yet, they're just, everything about the two different cameras was completely wrong. So even trying to match them with the colour correction, everything, it was just, it was so fuck. So it ended up just being like, just a Jamie, yeah, it was just one, yeah, it was just focused on me, wasn't it? It's still quite good video. Yeah, it was good, well, the content was good, it was just the visual. side. I was disappointed, but we're going to like experiment with that later, try and get like that. The obvious ideal would be to have another just exact one of those cameras.

I've already got another one of that lens. So if I can eventually get another body, then that might be more feasible. We'll look into it in the future to me, try and get it to work. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. Jari's always planning ahead for the future, so. Absolutely. In mind. We've got some topics to get into. Let's start with this one then actually About the

The Jar Jar which we haven't talked about in so long I have seen a lot of Harry Fernandez says Whatever happened to the jar media Jha Jha from about two years ago That includes all of the jar memes Was that genuinely two years ago that we did that No way

That makes me want to vomit It's been quite some time Two years How long have we been doing this So long since David Bowie died That's always my reference so six years wait

wasn't it like 2015 kind of time wait five years no 2015 no we can't no because we were doing an early jar before the cast so it's all kind of messed up right yeah

yeah but either way we have this I'm holding it in my hand for those listening I have the jar jar which the idea was we would note down jar memes and just stuck them in stick them in the jar so they'd kind of be cemented in history. Yes.

We can only at least fill it with cement and bury it. We have just a couple suggestions that have been brought up by the community that we need to decide whether they go in or not. I have a suggestion for one. Okay, let's do these first and then after that. What, they steal mine? Really? Okay. No, do those first.

Okay, I've got four here. James describing things as bait. is apparently I have not done that in literally five years It's part of history though I don't think it's a jar meme It's an R&L meme We need an R&L jar

So you're gonna say James saying things abate Like the real old 4chan shit That kind of is really early jar Though it is early jar My vote is yes There's so many stories of James doing James doing this

Yes there's so many stories of it So is your vote a yes Yeah Do you talk about your past self as a different person we've been doing that recently hasn't he by saying that like a lot of people on Twitter

and stuff do you say that like if you knew me before 2019 but that's like silly because that's like 20 that I say it because it's just like I'm well either which way James saying bait all the time is going I think it should go in yes it's gone in

I'm in agreement the Star Wars prequals oh fuck yes broadly I guess especially now with our with the year as good as they say yeah yeah speaking of um jim and i have done an as good as they say on red dead online she should go check out it should be out by now unless something went horribly wrong

but the time it's like got the computer or something yeah uh pit pop poy no has it yes yes 100% yes that's two yes is no it needs more time it needs to cement itself no it's in no no no we did the whole episode where i said pip you said puff and alex said poy that's one episode and that was only a few weeks ago We need more time.

No, dude, the amount of times I've been saying this. It might be cemented in history with at Premium Voie, but... Premium Voie is separate to Pit Poppoly. It's the same... Put it in, put it in the jar. No, no, no, no, I'm going to take it out. I'm going to take it out. Ruby do.

No, no, no, no, no. Yes, no. Yeah, it's already been cemented. No, it hasn't been cemented. It has. One cast, one, and I haven't heard... That doesn't define a meme. No, it does.

No, because people on Reddit, Twitter, Twitter, They've taken it and... I've seen like barely any and it's only been mentioned on one cast. I'm in a disagreement. Well, my vote is yes for Ruby. Because it's the success of Sandy and everyone knows that.

No. That doesn't mean it goes in. It needs time. I'd say leave that out for the time being. In 10 episodes times, we can decide. Well, this is a democracy right now. Yeah, it's 2V1. Put it in the goddamn jar right now. My vote is yes, Jim?

Yes. No, no! No! It's gone in. That's bullshit. Jim, do you have any? more to add while we're in this moment and I don't know it could already be in there I don't

know what's in there for reference James's beard ah yeah we haven't updated this in so long that the beard is probably new yeah the beard is actually yeah and it is I think it belongs to be in the jar it belongs to be on my face

and it still is so it definitely belongs in the jar yeah I'd like to take full responsibility for the way I was bullied into this and me yeah we bullied you into it and you've got to admit it was a correct decision was the best decision I made in my life it was incredible the best decision we me and Alex made Alex and I made in your life

James's beard is going in anything else before we move on um is dark souls two in there oh that is that is oh we do mention dark souls two whenever me and Ruben are together

that shit comes up it comes up uh... a quarter of duty as well yeah what do you say it's like halo and stuff in there because the old meme was that we always talked about we should probably do like an update video

where it's just going through them yeah we're gonna have to if it's genuinely been two years since we did this some might have to come out yeah no yeah no there was a lot that could be the same video to be honest James put the lid back on it's being sealed for now

we might do that video yeah in other news we've got a Twitter speed round to do wait should we should we do my topic before the speed round let's do the speed round first because we'll get in some feedback from people saying

supposed to be a speed round you've only been doing two or three why didn't you do at least five so I have five we have to do it actually speedy yeah that's always been like go go go go go come come on charlie at charlie is a doweeb says what is everyone's favourite channel out of IHE and JAR and do you see JAR as under the IHE brand or vice versa?

No, no, no, no. Just curious as to whether you see them as connected at all or singular entities. They complete... Fuck sake! Oh, fuck! I don't even know how that happened. How many times have we had like a beer spillage on jar now? A spillage.

There was a time Jamie literally spies it everywhere, it just went out, boom. It was funny to me. Now, when you spill it. something, it's never funny as you. I just, do you remember there's... If you spill something on a table, it can be funny. On a table, yeah, but when it's all over you, like, Jim, um, last

Christmas, we went to, like, a family member's house that we don't go to that often. And I had this, like, glass of cider. You know, that, like, quite expensive cider, the premium cider, whatever. Yeah. It's just holding the bottle in the kitchen. Um, it...

My great uncle handed me it. And I put my hand on, like, like the top of the bottle then because it was so like cold and crisp it just slipped through my hand onto their like they've got like a really modern house with this really modern kitchen and like no one never broken anything in it before so i was the first one just drop in this huge completely full bottle of cider just i was i i didn't i can't like behave under circumstances like that it's just so uncomfortable for me because it's like you're in someone's house and you've just made a mess and it's like, do you expect me

to clean everything up? Because they start like, oh, don't worry about it, I'll clean this all up, whatever. No, I know the same thing, you guess I walk and it's just like, you walk and you stand there while they do anything. Yeah, like, do you want me to help? Do you want me to, but you're supposed to be a guest or whatever, but you spilled the drink? Yeah, it's just a... I don't like the feelings, so I don't

if someone asks me for saying, I'll be like, no, I'm okay. Because I just know it will happen, because it always happens to me, because I'm so clumsy. It's just a hellish scenario for everyone involved. But what's your answer to the question, though, about I.E. and J. Because for me, I was actually thinking about this

earlier how I think I make a case and point of trying to keep them separate. No, yeah. No, they're definitely separate. Like, it's complete. Like, you've never mentioned JAR ever besides the time

and your channel's taken down. So it's just like, you've never actually brought attention to Chah. But I never wanted JAR to be like the IHE podcast, you know? Yeah, it needed to be JAR. Yeah, are they completely separate? It's never been branded.

as an IHE thing apart from IHE leaves Jot which was just a skit which was a little funny yeah it was not funny at all but I would say I slowest Twitter round of all time by the way thanks Jim

yeah because I spilled a fucking half a pint of beer on my was it that much it was a pretty decent I'm drenched through my trousers yeah you can see it oh my god how did that happen I don't know

I think I put my hand up to quickly answer the question like as fast as possible And then... The stress of it just caused it to happen. Yeah, but I wanted to jump in and say, I created IHE, so IHE is a job. Well, at the denim devil says,

for James, how do you feel about manual transmission gatekeeping in the car community? I think it's Delman makes the community less accessible to those who don't know how or physically unable to drive a manual car. Who actually cares? If you like enjoying... If you like driving your car, there's no problem.

I just care about people having fun in the passion I like. Boom. Fair enough. It's silly. Gatekeeping is always bad, no matter what. It's always bad. At the Grinch says,

what are Jamie's thoughts on the new Demon Souls remake? Sorry if this was us before. I've never played the original, always sort of wanted to, but PS3 exclusive, so really want to play it. It looks good.

At I like Femboys, says best character in the Big Lobowski. The Big Lobowski. Yeah, the dude. Yeah. No, not the Big Lobosky. The dude, yeah The dude

Yeah At Piddle Actually no Shout out to Donnie No Yeah shout out to Donnie No What's your answer

The dude's best friend Oh Walter Yeah John Goodman Yes No no he's the best He's great He's so fucking

I need to rewatch that movie It's so fucking funny It is so fucking funny At Piddle 358181 8667 says What A levels did you do And did you end up And what did you end up

getting in them. None. So you went to college, didn't you? Yeah, I went to college. What did you do at college? Motorball engineering and I got the highest level possible. I can't remember my results, but I took chemistry, physics, biology and IT. Mm-hmm.

All I know is that I think I got a merit because it was a B-tech for IT in IT. The rest, the other two, because I dropped biology, I did physics and chemistry, got like, these or something. Mm-hmm. I did, I retook the first year of sick form because I did so badly on the first attempt. I should have done that. On the first attempt, I did maths, art, ICT and history. Failed them all. Actually, I got a D in a couple of them, but which I think technically counts as a past year.

Yeah, you get you cast points for it. But I retook the year. instead did i did IT again design technology and photography and then did all right in the end i got a b in d t a b in photography and i think i got an e or a u in um iCT but really yeah which is bizarre but it's kind of ironic as well considering what it was it was like a thing a drama at the time where like just no one in ict was passing because the well the exams were being marked by like history and english teachers who just don't understand IT so even if you were leaving a correct answer if it wasn't specifically within the

guidelines of what the um you know what the teacher's their curriculum and it means you you've failed the question so even if i was leaving correct answers it still was wrong because the people that have to make decisions high level decisions just old people so they just don't understand anything yeah yeah you know thinking about my education because i went to college and i did learn most point you're doing because i got the max level i could have easily got on to university and like the university level shit to do that stuff like I had the grades

but I was just like no I'm going to work a really shit job instead like that was a generally mistake real big mistake it's not too late to go to uni no it's not to uni at any point like loads of adults go I've thought about it a lot that career path is probably cut off now

apparently it's easier to get in as well yeah yeah because they want the older students for that demographic to be fulfilled yeah the only trouble is you have to be employed already really and doing doing doing uny work while employed is a lot yeah it is a lot um jim our mum did it while she was an adult and that with us and it was quite a lot of work like that's why i couldn't do it now because it's like you know i've got there's a lot going on in my life and it's just like i wouldn't be i wouldn't have the time and i'd find my mind doing it and i know

people who have done it and it it's such for me it's just i don't know what topic i would choose yeah yeah i feel like if i if i just knew a topic then i could happily just go in but i'm not sure what i want to commit myself to for that long because it is like when you've got a career it's just like what do you actually see yourself doing and it's just like you don't know so that that whole there's also like some people just enjoy the the education side like just learning about the thing they enjoy yeah that's definitely what i would do because Yeah. As I'm getting older, I am getting more and more into

history and things like that. Yeah, yeah. History is really fascinating and I would do history, but then you're just like you've got to do essays and stuff on history and it's just like, I caught my mind, can't do that. But I love just to love the subject. Yeah, you've got to understand history to

understand the world. And we love a hit, a little bit of history on Jal. Before we go into the midway point, there's something I want to bring up to you guys. I've changed my game attire We literally played Red Dead yesterday and it was the same I've changed it today

I changed it today Oh no What do you think I changed it to? I don't even want to guess It's probably Portie I void Close It's a premium boy You changed it to premium boy

My game attack is now a premium boy My My twist I might see if I can have portie eye boy then I like to say on top of without my new Twitter handle is also Premium Boy. Is it actually? Yeah. My Twitter handle is Premium Boy.

Yeah, you already knew that. Let me change it for free, though. Really? Yeah. What, because yours was too rude before. My previous one was Farts for Eyes, but I guess because the new consoles are coming out soon, they're giving everyone like a free chance to change it again.

If I can change mine for free, I'll go party. I will do the same. Yeah, I'll do the same. I'm premium boy now. I'll be premium toy. A little clan going Change your name on PSN To Premium Voie Because then we've all got it covered

On every class I didn't have a PSN I should make one Well I've got Twitter handle So I Oh yeah My um My Twitter account got banned

Oh yeah Which hasn't been noted Yeah we didn't really talk about that We're supposed to mention it last episode But we just forgot to bring it out I just made a joke about White Wing politicians And I got permanently banned

because you called them what the C word The C word But someone actually went out of their way To report me Because it was in a thread So you can't You wouldn't see it on your feed So somebody clearly went out of their way

To report me Got me banned And I've got a new account At Premium Voie Yeah because Have you been banned from Twitter gym No So just James and I have been banned

Because I was banned Because I was banned for saying I was gonna kill you Yeah that's right Yeah I bet it was James that reported you James always got us banned off of Xbox Live Yeah, yeah

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or I guess sub-reddit as people like me to say let's start off with this one from Joseph Z Khan who says Alex bring a pen and paper onto the cast and give James a minute or shorter if you fancy to draw the thumbnail for this episode planning time beforehand is allowed just to give him a chance so the way this is going to work James I'm going to hand you this iPad and you can draw the thumbnail while we while we continue is that all right

there you go look it's all ready for you take the pen and Nothing not safe for work. Yeah, it has to be safer. Do you know how bad I am at drawing and just any kind of like... Either which way, it's the thumbnail, dude. You gotta make this important. Can you give me more than a minute? Draw a call of duty.

We've got to decide then on what the thumbnail will be. What would you say would be the main topic of this episode so far? A little funny jar name and all that. If not, we just got to move on. well i think we should give james as much time as he wants yeah no you have until the end of the episode to i mean the people listening or watching will know what was drawn by whatever the thumbnail yeah so uh let's just keep going then rxfd underscore oku says will you ever will you ever release the lost jar episode where james's microphone was unplugged do you even have the audio anymore

personally i would love to hear it even if it sounds like shite Um, there's a small chance that it's on one of my backup hard drives, but otherwise it might just be lost. I have a feeling it was quite a good episode as well. I think it might have been, because I remember when we re-recorded it, us being angry for a little bit, because of... Yeah, like, this really felt like at first it was going to be a shit episode. Mm-hmm, like, fuck. There was like this funny chicken gag or something. I vaguely remember. Yeah, uh, Moon Man lives in a house says,

thoughts on jelly is the consistency to your liking favorite flavor do you like to put it on a plate and wiggle it wobble wibble wibble slip slop slide i fucking hate jelly i'm gonna be honest oh oh because at every like birthday party it was jelly and ice cream as the ultimate jelly and ice cream fucking sucks why would you actually have jelly and ice cream why those two things don't go together everyone's like jelly and ice cream what goes to what goes what goes together about them? Nothing. I think cream and jelly can work, like a trifle.

I try, yeah, okay. I can imagine a trifle. Just jelly on its own, though, I don't think so, my friend. No, I can get down and buggy with a big fat slab of jelly. I just, I find it so gross. No, do you remember that thing I used to do? Me? Or you?

That I used to do. With jelly, yeah. And you thought it was hilarious where, like, I got it on a spoon, and you just go, you can just suck it out. up yeah yeah and it just goes like a vacuum cleaner when you turn it on by so it's the equivalent of like if you turn a vacuum cleaner on next to like a pile of like fat you know the way that would react yeah up the tube sort of thing yeah James do you like jelly no no no no I can't stand jelly but it's like I always see my mom get the jelly pots and my like niece and

nephew and then gets the squirty cream and just fucking yeats it on top and I'm just like that looks fucking disgusting do you remember the jelly like alleyway in our town where on the way to school there was this like tunnel that you went through and everyone just made it their mission to buy the pre-made squares of jelly and just throw cubes. It's the jelly

that you melt and then use to make gel. So like students would buy the packages of that jelly and throw the cubes onto the ceiling of this tunnel so. Yeah it was a sad day when I walked through there and they'd token them all down. Yeah every night again they've got to clear the

jelly of the year. the roof of the... I think they should have like implemented it. And had like a cool... Just embrace it, you know? Like a light thing. All the different colour jellies.

You know? Uh, put on face says, someone message Ruben right now and ask him why he hates happy feet so much. I just saw his rating on letterboxed. Should I call him? You can call him if you want. If he's available.

I'll see. It's 8.41 p.m. on a Wednesday. If he's there or not. It's FaceTime audio. FaceTime audio. Explain what's up if he answers. Yeah. Who's this?

Um, who's this? So I'm on the phone. Um, we're actually just recording JAR right now. Oh, right. Yeah, um, we've got a question for you. Oh, okay. Reuben, what's your problem with happy feet, dude? What? What's your problem with happy feet?

feet? It's really rubbish and none of the tap dance and since up with the feet. I suppose that's fair. But it's by the man max guy. But when the film is called happy feet and there's a selling point of tap dancing penguins with happy feet and the fucking happy noises that the happy feet

supposedly make do not synchronise. That's not a very happy feet movie in my opinion. You know what? That's pretty hard to argue against. Yeah, yeah, I agree. It's really distractingly terrible Even when I was like 10 Whatever fucking age I was when it came out

It's just shit What was your rating on Letterbox Ruben I don't know I don't even know if I would have rated it But I would presume it would be like One and a half If I had Okay

Okay Fair enough That's what I would think Well Thank you for the insight Yeah we're all sold It's rubbish What if you're a huge fan of Man Max

still don't watch happy feet what about happy feet too yeah what about the second one I probably definitely don't watch that one I don't know I think there's no there isn't there's like a joke about the idea of a third one isn't there I don't know did they get Elijah back for the second one

he's not the main character so right right is that the only reuben question we have that was the main one yeah they wanted to know about happy feet i'm afraid yeah thanks for thanks for answering so swiftly uh yeah i just was intrigued and i it took me while to understand what i was looking at when the big boss picture came off my phone my brain just didn't couldn't process i was like

what was that was what's this situation what's going on yeah because your picture for me is big boss with an eye patch over both of his eyes. It just said like FaceTime audio. I was like, what's FaceTime audio? What was that mean?

It really was a really weird moment. Yeah, I don't know why it automatically chose FaceTime audio because I just pressed to call you and it did that. Well, and then I answered. Yeah. Thank you.

Okay. Ruben. That's all right. Ruben. I love you. I don't know I don't want to do that You're not ready for that yet

Okay I understand I get it Not live on camera Why you're revealing us like I'm like that's good point Yeah good point Okay I'll see everyone bye Okay I'll see it

Bye That's perfect Derek the pig has one for us to transition into What would you say Are some of the best and worst visual character designs. James? What?

What are some of the best and worst visual character designs? When I say good character design, what flashes into your brain? Not Madagascar. Oh, well, you took my answer. That's really weird, because I was going to say, for good, the penguins. You think the penguins are a good design? I think they're incredible. I think for the most part.

Um, they're funny. because they're just so simplistic almost like minions in a way just a little blob with the couple colours on it but like what are they they're penguins

and when you look at them what do you see okay I'll agree with you as long as it's not the penguins from the first movie I think they look really weird in the first movie yeah they look everything in the first movie two and three they've got the proper kind of penguin sheen

the lighting's a bit better the quality of the fur is a bit better Just the Madagascar I think Like in terms of stills Like the If you're watching the video version Just above James's head here

We have some Madagascar penguins Mm-hmm They look bad there Well They look kind of cool But I think the way they're utilised In the movie

Genius You got Skipper there doing the DreamWorks smile While he's arrogantly crossing his arms I'd say it's pretty Pretty cool He's doing the DreamWorks thing The DreamWorks smirk Yeah

If anyone wants a bit of humour Just Google the DreamWork Smirk and see the, see the kind of compilations that are available. But what are some of the best and worst visual characters? Jim, I need your help. I got to say, I do like, I like Master Chief a lot. Yeah, like Halo 2, Halo 3 Master Chief is like, that shit's good. About worst, though. Halo 4, Chief?

Yeah, that's really, yeah. The Spartans, yeah. They're really bad. But that's something that isn't Halo, though, because that's always our go-to. Um, Spider-Man from the Amazing Spider-Man? Do you not like that one?

The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man looks fine. Amazing Spider-Man. Oh, where he's like, edgy Man of Steel Spider-Man. Yeah, he looks fucking terrible. Yeah, I don't like that one very much. Um, but the reason I went to him is because the cliche is Halo and Marvel for us. so my head immediately went to Marvel I like the designs of

I'm sorry if we're going back to Dreamworks but I like the Kung Fu Panda character designs quite a lot especially Shen from Kung Fu Panda the Peacock character yeah he's great he's very good Pixar has a lot of good designs I don't know yeah like Woody and Buzz

yeah incredible What about like Think about this The design of SpongeBob And Patrick and Squidwin That lot Actually yeah Every single SpongeBob character

They're so expressive And their personality So Mr Crabbs Even Pearl Like a throwaway character It's like such a funny memorable Just like the The guy

The My Leg guy Yeah You know My leg Yeah The green guy Yeah Just everything

From Spong SpongeBob of that era. And I can picture every one of the characters' silhouettes really clearly, too, which is a good sign. Because the question said about bad, I want to say, Fairly All Parents. I fucking hate... You're not a fan of Butch Hartman. No, I'm not. I think that shit is shit.

Uh, Danny Phantom. That shit is shit. I prefer myself Danny Phantom over Failure Parents. I think it works better for that show than, uh... Yeah. Yeah, I always love. liked it more. I can't get the correct read on if failure parents

is like beloved or not. Yeah, I don't know. I hated it. Yeah, even as a kid it was like this just like isn't funny. There was like one good joke every 50 jokes type thing. Jimmy Neutron though. Oh Jimmy Neutron, yeah, they're all shit.

Every character design. Terrible. That was like the movie where they went into space and they're like riding theme park wide. Yeah. I have that as a duck song. Did it do do do do do. Yes. like that really just like disgusting with Jimmy Neutral and I think those designs could work in 2D but it's something

about the 3D incorporation that makes them just so disturbing that early CG shit just like that what was that show I think it might be Canadian it's like aliens in the attic or some shit where it's about this kid living on like a movie isn't it no no it's about

this kid like living in like a lighthouse yeah it's a TV show yeah it was on like ITV or something and there was this blue alien that was like you're an income poop oh my god yeah he was like the squidwood character yeah yeah yeah yeah the and there was like a big dumb one and shit yeah i don't know what it's cool that show's fucking terrible a lot of awful shit we had on tv yeah yeah do you remember uh my parents are aliens yeah yeah and i remember seeing the intro for the first time and thinking oh it's just like

it was going to be cute animated yeah yeah and it was live action it was so boring james what's your favourite Gundam design? Um, it would be Barbados or the Unicorn Gundam because they're both

kind of really nice looking. And what's the worst what's the worst Gundam? F, uh, one that you look at

and think, wow, that design is shit. Oh, that's hard to see because there's quite a few shit ones. What's the one

that pops into your mind instantly? Probably some, some, um, um, of the enemy ones from Gundam O-O. That was like

the Halo 3-era Gundam. And it was fucking ugly. The Hela 3 is sick, though. Do you mean like Hela 4? 2007, it was, I mean. Like, that era in terms of that anime. Okay, okay.

I want to shout out two more animated shows for good character design. Mm-hmm. The Simpsons. Yep. Future drama. Yeah. They're just on that perfect line of the detail. Yeah, yeah.

But also how they use, like, side characters that aren't in it. Mm-hmm. But they might just be in it for, one episode, but they're so perfect for what that character is. Okay, Lilbert Jetsky says, if there was a pill you could take that would make it so you never have to sleep again, what would you do with all of the extra time? Try to sleep. For me, it would probably be just do the things I do while I'm awake, but...

More of it. When I'm not asleep. Yeah. I mean, I think that would become quite a sad existence. What, never sleeping? Yeah, if you were the only one that never slept. And especially, like, if you never felt tired. If I never...

I mean, it would be sort of lonely. If you could take a pill the major so you weren't tired. And there was no side effect. Yeah. No, if you were the only person that could do it. That's how I'm interpreting this question. Right. Well, the question was about a pill you could take, though.

I guess it would be widespread then and just everyone would sleep again. Yeah. Although, you know, the premise is messed up Because I think humans need sleep For their brains to function Well, yeah But ignoring that I mean, play more video games

Yeah Draw funny pictures I don't know Yogspog says My girlfriend refers to you as the stupid Madagascar men Thoughts Fucking lull I mean it's accurate

Yeah but also why you have to be like that Yeah, there's more to us than just that. Yeah, there's, like, we've got multiple facets and you're, like, focusing on just one of them. Like, we're not that. Wilhelm Medros says, hey, how's it going, everyone? Hope you're all okay. So I love the show, especially because your personality, dry, acid, sarcastic humor, over criticism, etc. It matches my way of thinking perfectly.

I live in Brazil. Sorry for my English, by the way. and it is really hard to find someone in here who has that acid aspect. My question is, do you guys feel like out of place and different from most people of your age or being like yourselves is common in the UK? P.S. thank you for all the years of joy, farts and enjoyment. I love it when people that don't have English as their first language comment like, hey, sorry for my English and it's like better than most people speaking English.

It's probably better than my written English. And also, your English is so much better than my Portuguese, so... Yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's a real gambit in the UK of the variation on the dryness, you know? Because there are some British people that really are all about that dry, sarcastic humour. Yeah. But there are plenty that aren't, you know.

The thing is, the way I... am with you guys is very different to the way I am with people I know way less well, obviously. Because there's always that, like, for me, a feeling out period, whereas before we recorded this, James was getting

quite angry at me because I was just being so fucking annoying and being a dick pretty much. But that's because I know I can with James. I don't push those limits with other people. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, people might be disappointed if they

expect us to behave as we do on jar like in an everyday scenario yeah i think for the most part we just keep to ourselves well yeah not like running around town screaming jar memes and just being assholes like yeah the fact of the matter is that we've known each other i've known you my whole life and i've known james since i was just getting to that point where it might as well be just whole life. Yeah, yeah. Like, the part of my life without James is getting smaller and smaller every day. But to answer that question, do you think you're different to most people?

Well, out of place and different from most people of the same age? Yeah, I mean, not even just of the same age. Yeah, I think the answer is yes. Do you think so? But do you think that's just because of where we are in the UK or what? Well, I mean, I can't say But I mean, I think I'm Different

But I guess everyone thinks they're different Yeah You know, I don't know, maybe I fit into a box perfectly Yeah, well, that's a good thing about YouTube Is the, you know, longer restricted by geography You can connect with even people in Brazil Who you've never met Which is, honestly, freaking epic

Do you think you're different to most people your age? probably yes James probably yes that doesn't and that doesn't inherently mean it's like a good thing either it's just different yeah or I agree it's just you know yeah it is just different sassy Sonia HD says hello guys as you know school will be starting up again soon but this year will be the most anxiety inducing for those of us starting uni apprenticeships actual jobs etc can you each remind me of what you did after finishing sick form slash college and what your experiences were during that period

I've been accepted into university but I'm not too keen on going due to the bad experiences my relatives had I personally would rather waste no more time and head straight off into work cheers lads um so out of everyone on the cast

the only one I went to uni is Rubin he's just finished actually so he got all the way through got good marks in the end um Um, as far as me, I finished sick form and I kind of knew pretty early that I didn't, at least at that point, was not ready for uni, so I was like, no. Um, but I made the plan of like, I'll try doing some kind of YouTube content within the time period of a year. And if I get nowhere within that year, I'll just go and do, uh, like a, um, art foundation and just go from there. I was going to move to Stroud and do an art foundation if everything, went wrong right um so i had some kind of plan about you bro um i mean you clearly thought about it way more than i ever did um it's just my personality i think it's the kind of thing i stress about

yeah well i mean the the second well not the second but we partway through sixth form I don't know something in me changed I just like stopped caring about that aspect of stuff so uni just became like I knew for a fact I wasn't going to uni

so then I just didn't even bother with my A levels and it's the D's it makes it feel kind of pointless because I had that same sort of feeling where like I didn't know really what I was doing or what my trajectory was

so I didn't feel that motivated to work my ear levels yeah so but then then when that all ended and it came to like well I can't just live for free forever and do nothing so I

got a job with a with an agency where they just call you up and say work here and then you say yes or no so I did some just awful work in factories bin vans

anything that was offered yeah yeah and i've done agency work twice and honestly it's not even that bad in terms of pay and stuff if you're willing to do the horrible like they're really unsociable hours like you yeah like six in the morning or before you have to be at work at six in the morning and then work for like 12 hours straight but i mean if if you just did that four days a week like the money I was on was decent so I mean you always have that option um but then I just went into bar work and enjoyed the what about you James what's your story after I'm leaving a secondary school I went to a college and did the most but engineering then decided that I wanted to actually make a just earn money

so I worked in a dog shit garage for and did an apprenticeship with dog actually a garage where it basically just mentally destroyed me because it was so miserable and it was so long working hours and conditions were kind of I was treated like slave labor basically by the most disgusting vile boss yeah and then I was just like I can't do this and then I just I happened to find like a another apprenticeship with just a small catering business and it was for like an administration so it was doing loads of random things and then moved on from there to this just like It was the same company, but it was, I just, I became, like, the kind of do-everything guy, Jack of All-Trades.

You know, sometimes I was doing, like, your type of stuff at, like, weddings and stuff, and then doing business work. And it was just, I was doing everything everywhere. And then I went to, like, basically running a business on my boss's behalf because he was, like, in the kitchen. So I was doing everything, accounts, everything. I think so I liked accounts, I'm now becoming an accountant in a proper, in an internet. national like company you know and I've been the main guy I think my advice would be someone that still doesn't have a license get a license get just if you are going to work get a shit job or whatever just get work some kind of income yeah and pay for your driving if you

haven't already learned yeah when you have as one the second you can drive your opportunities just yeah especially when you live in rural and you're not in like the center of a city well yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a good point I do feel for these people though that are like in that awkward stage where they are either going to uni or going into some kind of job now just because the COVID thing

like it is such an awkward like weird stage to be jumping in yeah it's it is improving and I think getting a job quite a mess five months ago is a lot harder than it is now but yeah I mean No way

hasn't suffered From this Yeah So I mean Yeah You're in the boat with everyone else Don't feel bad about it I think

For me From my read on like union If you're torn And if you want to go to uni or not As long as you're not someone who's like really You've had that idea in your head of like Yes I'm going to be a pilot So you just have your route

And you know exactly what you're doing I've always envied that kind of person if you're not that kind of person and you just truly don't know what to do it might be a good idea to go to uni just for the yeah I think the socialization side

you're around a bunch of people are in the same boat if you're doing a subject you're around people doing the same thing so you know it's a good idea if you can make that happen

aged Osger has interesting one saying has doing the cast over the years noticeably improved your social skills confidence or anything similar also which one of you would say they've changed the most since the first

episode of JAR the answer to the second question I would say is James James definitely has had the most extreme changes over the years yes that's why I say like I'm a different person because it's just like I feel so alien

compared to like me when we first started But, I mean, I think that applies to all of us in some way. Yeah. Yeah, I think some of it comes through more, though, just from the podcast. No, I would agree with James being the kind of biggest change from the beginning. But genuinely, I think it has improved my social skills and communication skills. Just every week for years on end, being forced to sit down in front of mics and record you speaking. Being forced.

Well, yeah, that's a weird way of putting it, but having a, you know, having some structure and being like, okay, we have to communicate and try and make it entertaining in some way. So, yeah. It's hard to say because, I mean, we started this when I was 18 and to go from being 18 to then 23. Yeah, that's the confusing part because you changed so much during that time. Yeah, like it's a natural thing anyway. and there's so many things affecting your life. This is just, for the longest time, this was just something we did for one hour once a week.

Like, that's a small amount of time compared to everything else that's influencing you. But an hour a week over years adds up to quite a few hours. But also it's become more and more, like we're making more videos and, I mean, we end up seeing each other more often now than I think we used to. Okay.

Alex, got a quick question. what was the old school jar thing with the triangle in the corner? What color was the podcast? Purple, right? When thumbnails had that? Mm-mm-mm-mm. That's fine.

Should we do one or two more? Two. You want to do two more, huh? Let's do this one from Joseph Jewish Jarling. Hey, Jha. I hope everyone's doing well. I just wanted to check back in, say hi, and ask a quick question. I'm now going into my second year of uni.

I'm studying psychology, and I ended up with an A average in my first year. Well done. Had an amazing time and experience, but now comes the tough part. This year, I have to figure out where I want to specialize in. Psychology is an extremely broad topic, and I'm having an immensely difficult... I'm having immense difficulties narrowing down my path. I think I want to do work with youth, but that might just be because I am a youth, and I'm not sure if that's what I want long term.

Any suggestions? have an epic day thank you Joseph if you're interested in the like youth side you could specialize perhaps in like kids with disabilities

there are countless like disability specialist schools and stuff like that you might be able to get some good experience there if you want to narrow it down a bit or I mean the brain we were always

talking about like just how we just don't understand the brain very well and how there's just so much to explore with that yeah honestly it's a really really hard question because i would almost say like focus on an aspect that you're not familiar with or something you're passionate about because you're familiar with it because your family or your friends yeah yeah yeah something you but i mean something you can learn from and understand something yeah more um yeah as opposed to just like already knowing these things and then yeah i mean we're the wrong people to us to be honest well yeah because none of us have a fucking degree in psychology psychology yeah there is certainly a lot to explore and i understand

the difficulty of narrowing it down i'm not really sure where i'd begin if that was my his thesis should be on us on our brains on the jar brains my thesis on the four psychopaths who run this youtube channel yeah that's a good answer okay I'm done you've done it I think I'm done I don't know what I'm working out you see it before Alex sees it how do I save it let you it's fine it's already done like I'll I'll sort it I honestly that looks pretty sick it does whatever it is like a bloom effect

oh this is much more experimental than I was expected it's like a Picasso or something there's a secret James is actually like a fucking artist in the end there's a beautiful thing I've ever seen there's a there's a knee stroke in there which nobody will get.

Nobody will get. Apart from me. I'll say it off camera, but yeah. That's perfect. For those listening, if you're frustrated, just look at the thumbnail. I tried to go for like a, you know, a wheelie out there.

Kind of, you know, there's loads of leaf strikes in that that nobody really gets. Don't you not try? Yeah, I'm actually impressed by that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, like time well spent, in my opinion. What was actually going on?

In like 2,000 years, is that's going to be mounted somewhere is this fucking thing that people are like, how did somebody think to do this? Let's end on this one. From Tiger 1-1-1. What are your thoughts

on the military entertainment complex and how we see the military portrayed in media? Do you think that games such as cod make people connect positively with the military? Cod is sponsored by the US Army for your information. Do you think that video games and movies can become ethical

if they're used in a way of influencing people's relationship with an organization such as the military or otherwise. It'll be interesting to hear James's thoughts, especially since he loves Cod so much. Well, all media romanticizes conflict and, you know, by that, by that, yes. I don't know about that. Like, Cod does, definitely. Battlefield does. Most, most few games do. Sorry, I think the latest modern warfare game,

is morally the story is morally wrong yes for what's that I haven't played it so I don't know I watched I think Favian's video on it which was quite good about the kind of sensationalised it's it's more than just that though they they established that you

the good guys being the active thing like yeah whatever they do no matter what it is is justified they never do it they always say like we've got to take the gloves off and we've got to like do the

scummy things we got to the quote is like um we get our hands dirty so that the world stays clean yeah yeah yeah but saying that and then not having a moment where you do something morally wrong and it has a bad repercussion

you're saying whatever you're whatever the US military or the UK military does is why no matter what it does it's it's the right thing because they're the good guys yeah i think that is a terrible message mm-hmm an awful awful message but it's always been my the thing that makes me feel weird about cod and battle puts no but i don't think that any of the previous ones had that problem no they

never outright said like we've got to take the gloves off we've got to do fucked up shit so they so they genuinely try and make that point in the latest cod do they inadvertently yeah yeah they do so you think just through them trying to do like military epic kind of shit they've kind of accidentally kind of turned it into this yeah by trying to make it more grey they've made it more black and white is there a cod game that deals better in that grey

though and is more about the corruption I can't save myself because the PC port is so fucking atrocious I refuse to play it but world at war I'm pretty sure they go into because you're playing as the Russians for a big segment of it so they're happy to there's there's a lot of war atrocies you see

and there's like points of that but you don't have to do them it's a complete optional thing but it shows that side of war and it's like but I mean even the awful modern warfare two cut scene or entire mission where you're playing as a terrorist no Russian the consequence of that is that you

cause World War III the atrocity that is taking that story is tonally is more like a Michael Bay movie than it is super stupid but that that that sort of story would work better with the latest modern warfare you think you're silly

no what I'm saying is they have an example of the good guy doing something fucked up and the cause or the effect of that is like everything is ruined because the good guys did something wrong whereas the new modern warfare it's just like

there's there's a scene where to interrogate someone you get his wife and son into the torture room and you like point a gun at them and then at the end of that scene you have the choice to kill the guy you're getting the information from in front of his wife and child or just let him go and live but like that that's not a choice

that that's not morally gray that is just you committing an atrocity yeah there seems to be this inherent difference between the way war is depicted in video games and like movies and TV because a lot of the time when war is the setting of a story in a movie or TV the message is a lot of the time an anti-war one yes I watched good the bad and the ugly recently it's just on my mind fresh has a very heavy kind of anti-war kind of message to it you know a lot of the most famous kind of war pieces of fiction are about the the fucked-up nature of war and there's one in particular I'm thinking of basis is going past me I mean just Google war movies and chances are the majority of them will be like a critique of war critique of Vietnam a critique of

World War II like just critique of Russia like there's so many different artistic takes on it and so the the complicated part for me is like you jump into a game of cod and it's a game first and foremost they've made a game using the aesthetics of war and is that inherently bad just because it's using the aesthetics and it's kind of we brought this up a few weeks ago with this like Lego set that was military themed and how yeah some people don't like that and it's a surprisingly complex problem but I think we are yet to see a video game

that compellingly and truthfully sort of gives you the experience I would say I've played one speck-ups spec ups the line is the kind of that's what that's the way I want to see war being I see what I'm saying but again it's it's sort of more binary in that you

aren't justified in what you did Right. And also that game did have like a competitive multiplayer, which inherently is like what's the mess. It's like a conflicting message ideology. It's like you want to have people having silly arcadey fun in your horrific war setting at the same time as you want this really serious single player. I think it's just a game thing. Like it has to be interactive. That was sort of a product of its time. I think that game would never have come out today. it's a commentary on the modern state of games but I think a game could be made to sort of show that grey area because the fact is war is necessary in some instances right like World War II

mm-hmm like the stuff that the Nazis were doing the world just couldn't let that slide it's not something I was to see like struck from storytelling or anything I think it's actually a very valuable kind of story beat to explore I do just have that weird feeling in the back of my mind when I see a cod game with these like yeah specifically the last one like when it's set in these like in the like World War II or Vietnam and stuff like that that's that's removed enough for me where I can be like right

this is historical at this point modern warfare is still a bit fresh me yeah it's interesting as well how in modern warfare they have a terrorist attack happen in london but then the like middle eastern country that you're fighting in the game is a made-up country yeah it's just such a messy fucking yeah but i mean my my point is is that i think something could we haven't seen the game that delves into this topic properly. Right. Because they...

With the wide appeal, at least, because I'm sure there are plenty of anti-war games out there. You just got to find it. No, I don't even mean just anti-war. I mean... With some kind of message that is more complex than your army is good, just because it's your army. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just want to see good stories. Like, even if it is a silly Modern Warfare 2 story, if they just keep that tone consistent. um mona warfare two story is really bad by the way i guess that's the problem with monorfer too is like you have horrific lows like that terrorist scene at the same time as having the michael bay shit and it's like kind of conflict yeah it was sort of like too realistic mm-hmm yeah as i say i i've never played a cod campaign through to the end it's not really my cup of tea but i kind of like other things being explored maybe one day there'll be a cod that

if they're sponsored by the military actually maybe it'll never happen it's not directly sponsored they sponsor the pro league and they have a team for the pro league do you not think that has like a knockdown effect though in the like development where they're not going to tell like a

critical story then again Activision is in the pocket of China so maybe there will be an anti-American military game imagine that like every every like game developer just is owned by China at some point so they'll start making his anti- America games

Yeah It's a good question I mean Yeah man Yeah I don't know Yeah I mean The answer to I think Every question we've had so far

Is like Yeah I don't know Yeah I think that's a safe thing to say Yeah If you want our question Just Google Whatever the majority answer is

And just go with what the majority is So then we're just safely in that space. Yeah, yeah. If you don't know where we, like, where we lean politically or... Just where we stand on anything.

Or our opinion on, like, any relevant topic, just assume that we agree with the majority. Yeah. That's safe to say. And or you, personally. We agree with you personally, all right? Yeah, yeah.

Whatever you think is what is exactly what we think. Even if we say different. Yeah, even if in the past we've said different or we say something else in the future, what we actually mean is that you're right. Yeah. And that's the ultimate message of this podcast, and I think that's a beautiful place to end it.

Yeah, I think I agree, yeah. We've made real headwaves and this... Yeah, we've sort of gone leaps and bounds beyond most things. Damn straight, James. Is going to say anything to wrap this one up? Yeah, of course. Um, yeah. Kind of cool, man.

Thank you.