JAR Media Posdact - The APEX Redditor - JARCast Episode 309

Episode Date: January 23, 2023

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Find us on Spotify and iTunes under: "Jar Media Posdact" Find the original episodes under: "The JARChive" Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter...: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 03:02 Housekeeping 13:31 James' Small World Family History 18:03 Talking about how Halo has officially died a sad, pathetic, clawing death. After years of mismanagement and failed projects that were so focused on redesign that they lost the core identity that made everyone like it to begin with. 24:45 The Ethics of a De-Extinction Company 45:44 Suds 48:54 Mid break 52:10 Reddit Questions: The Evil JARling 55:51 The Last Time You Fell Over 1:00:13 Media Being Made BAD on Purpose? 1:04:59 Alex's Opinion on The Last of Us Pilot Episode 1:09:26 James Car Meet Stories 1:13:01 Dodgy Teachers 1:16:49 Watching Podcasts Backwards 1:24:05 SUV vs Rally Car Argument 1:34:48 The Leaked Suicide Squad Menu

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and gentlemen. This is Jhara episode 309 of the JAR Media podcast. Today I am joined by Jamie and Alex. Welcome. Is this the ASMR episode finally? I can do that beard scratch thing. No. This isn't the AISMI up.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Is that an ASMR thing? No. Yeah, it is, right? Where you go like... Alex, I'm not watching beer scratching A.S. Well, just because you don't watch it doesn't mean it's not out there. No, but everything's a thing in A.S. Like, I've, I've listened to A.S.M.R.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Engine building videos. Ah! That's... Calming. I want a, um, Call of Duty, Modern Warfare Reloads anime. No, but there is Captain Price ASMR videos. If ASMR, it's like if you got in on the ASMR thing Huge
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah, I remember People like contacted me around the time There was like, it was like huge The ISMR market's growing You should really do something about that Biggest mistake you ever made Alice, you would have made You would have quadrupled your subscribers
Starting point is 00:01:22 If you made ASMR videos Reading Lord of the Wings As IHE that everyone Is that ASMR? Yeah No yeah Yeah do your Gollum voice
Starting point is 00:01:34 Gollum Gollum reads The man man Boy boy boy man I kind of find the I recently found this like Lego YouTuber right Who um He kind of go
Starting point is 00:01:49 He goes in on his videos To the point where it's like Crazy He like almost makes these like Stop motion They're like just reviews of like sets that they're like he puts in like
Starting point is 00:02:01 stop motion effectively of like him building it in like certain steps and it's all like synced to music and stuff and it's like ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-chchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchch all this kind of stuff that's kind of my SMR I guess next time you build something can you make a video
Starting point is 00:02:15 where you build it like it's Lego Star Wars ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-chchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchch yeah that would be awesome yeah I suppose you could do it. With the sound effects and all Um, before we get too deep into the show, though, let me shout out the Patreon,
Starting point is 00:02:33 JARMedia Patreon that make the audio version possible. And they have their names read out in the first or second week of each month. Thanks for the support, everybody. We've got a big chunk here, to be honest, of things. Got a few topics here, got a few questions to, conversations to round out from that previous lot. mistakes to unmake mistakes to remake
Starting point is 00:02:59 let's do it then let's go into housekeeping which Patricia Norton Albino Basilisk and many other people were on the same note
Starting point is 00:03:13 because we're talking a little bit about that controversial HBO Velma show which the conspiracy is a flow and heavy for You take the L I guess I'll take the L on this one being Norville has always
Starting point is 00:03:25 been Shaggy's real name in the Scooby-Doo law We're gonna drop the jar boys Some epic Scooby-Doo lore Norville is Shaggy's birth name And Shaggy being his nickname Edit, Norville Shaggy Rogers Is his full name
Starting point is 00:03:37 So sorry about that one I can't even remember Wait so his middle name is Shaggy That's his nickname I always thought it was like I didn't really think his like name was Shaggy I just thought the character Went by Shaggy
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah why would you like name him anything but Yeah Yeah but I mean What would want to say about that the people are like theorising now that I think we I might actually say this for later
Starting point is 00:04:04 there was some question about it but about like the idea of intentionally bad shows to get like press I don't know we can talk about that later um yeah so sorry sorry about Norville Paisley Meadows says
Starting point is 00:04:22 Alex has mispronounced my Patreon name every damn time and it's just a normal word. Can't wait to compile the epic fail reel. What name is it? Don't know. That means next month, the next time we read the Patreon names, you've got to be careful.
Starting point is 00:04:39 This is a thing I never anticipated, like, ever making content online or whatever. You're not just speaking to, like, locals that understand, like, and even around here, I probably sound kind of weird. Just over Christmas, like, one of our cousins was saying, they said that I sounded American to them like my voice yeah either I don't know like what they're what they're on or whatever but yeah but making stuff online like saying all these names from all around the world I'm not a very I'll be the first to admit I'm not a very worldly person I don't know anything just saying these names and and a lot of people like they use they've got their like
Starting point is 00:05:19 gamer tags as their their name online or whatever you want to call it you know so one person's Pinkish prawn is another person's... Pankish prown. But they're actually real and really like something to their culture where they came from on some random island I'd never heard of. I think it's nice when someone says something just drastically incorrect to like not even... To just leave it?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah. That's how language evolves and becomes epic. There was one... I had one of those earlier where... I was like self-correcting myself. I wanted to use the word protractor for something. But that's like a math tool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Isn't it? She's doing the thing. The half circle thing. But it like stuck me. It got me caught in such a way where I like couldn't actually think of the word I wanted. Petractor. Is it protractor or protractor? Yeah, that's where I just kind of gave up.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And I have this really vivid memory of being in like year seven, sat in like ICT, writing some essay or something and there was like a word that I was stuck on and I just couldn't I couldn't conjure it and I sat there for like 15 minutes I don't even know like what to do I think it's one of those things there where like
Starting point is 00:06:40 you're focusing so hard on trying to get it that if you just stop and leave it just let it go it will just come back to you that's what you should do it's like those people that they write a whole sentence they like type it all out and they make a little mistake at their end
Starting point is 00:06:59 and then like go with the back button and like undo the whole sentence and do it again it's just like obsessive stuff I do that all the time for the whole sentence yeah there you go man
Starting point is 00:07:10 there you go so sorry for epically failing at reading okay Greasy the reptile says I was recently looking into bear biology and found a podcast with a bear expert and said that the brown bear is called ursus arctus which literally means bear bear bear
Starting point is 00:07:31 i thought it was very funny to have a biologist say bear bear bear so much nice ursus actus ursus arctos bear bear maybe that sounds a bit more like like fancy like it sounds classical yeah This is like the difference between saying, you're right, and hello there? Do you know what I mean? I do know what you mean. Ursus Octus. Lom Brian says, I think Andor shows Star Wars without lightsabers and force can actually be pretty epic.
Starting point is 00:08:10 No reason you couldn't do it with the scoob. I guess that's something I was saying when we're talking about Valma. I think what I said was, yeah, you wouldn't make Star Wars without lightsabers and the force, but they've literally done that and was actually quite good. So I guess it really more comes down to the fact that it's bad writing, it's bad writing. Yeah, at the same time, though, I don't think you could really call the Scooby-Doo universe like a, like novels and spin-offs. Yeah, you can't really flesh out because it's like just real life, really. Because there's no actual ghosts.
Starting point is 00:08:49 They're all just dudes wearing masks. What about in the movies? It kind of gets a bit real. They're like CG monsters, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. Does that make them not real? No, CG isn't real.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But in the movie, they're real. They're not real, though. They are. No, they're like holograms. No, they're real. Are they real? Yeah. Well, then that is real.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I thought, I didn't mean, like, CG is in, in the movie, they're, like, obviously they are. But I thought in the universe, like, the twist is that, like, they're not real. No, they're real. And they like change consciousness and stuff Remember that whole weird scene where they like Fred goes into Daphne's consciousness and they swap I'm gonna be real I haven't seen this movie nearly as many times as you have
Starting point is 00:09:37 And Fred's is like yeah look at my boobies as a girl Damn Let's go Fred, let's go There's a lot of stuff in that movie that just like was really confusing as a child These concept like opening the door to all these crazy concepts I mean Valmer as a concept was something to wrap your head around and everything else
Starting point is 00:09:58 yeah Jacob B says for housekeeping please in caps so I guess they really wanted me to say this why did Alex not listen to Jim for the title of Intercontinental Ballistic Buba um I guess I kind of addressed
Starting point is 00:10:12 it already you know I didn't say that James did yeah honestly that 90% of what makes people click on a video is the title and thumbnail comment and I felt like it would
Starting point is 00:10:27 I don't know probably just get flagged as being some kind of military video well yeah to make a thumbnail for intercontinental ballistic boot but yeah exactly that's gonna be tricky I want to end this segment on this one from Hindu Frap who was also angry
Starting point is 00:10:44 at us Wobafet is the blue Pokemon that hangs around with Team Rocket in the anime get up to date with your Pokemon law will you So what are you trying to say? That the meowth wasn't ever that? Yeah, meowth was that more.
Starting point is 00:11:03 What do you mean? Get up to date. He was that when we watched it. Ah! I also did see, I'm, yeah, I vaguely remember when Wobber Fett came along, but that's when I kind of tuned out. Yeah, Wobber... No meowth.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Is he called Wobber Fet as like a reference to Boba Fett? Like it rhymes and the second word is Fet. I don't know. I guess I'd never really thought about that. All the Pokemon fans can write in and we can definitely pay attention to that one. Yeah, Team Rock is blasting off again. Isn't that right, James?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah. Did you ever watch Pokemon? No, I don't think I did. Really? I think for the most part I've managed to avoid Pokemon. As an anime enjoyer, I think you would actually like Pokemon. Yeah. So the biggest
Starting point is 00:11:54 infectious Japanese bit of media that spread everywhere you somehow didn't get at all. What about Yu-Gia? You didn't watch Yu-Gia? Do you remember when Noam Brock is running with a frying pan in the rain and he's like, I can turn this frying pan
Starting point is 00:12:11 and then he puts on his head into a drying pan? Yeah. I'm glad I didn't watch it then. No, then. I did, however, get a pack of Pokemon. like cards yeah
Starting point is 00:12:24 a little booster pack no like a chunky like a collector's pack like a chunky word of like 500 cards was it to try and defeat my deck no it was just like I was at a waste track and I got Pokemon
Starting point is 00:12:37 don't I don't know what the context were they playing the game on like the hood of a car no they were they were racing cars that's actually what the what was that like gang of really fast Nike at the Midnight Club yeah the Midnight Club they'd meet him
Starting point is 00:12:52 play Pokemon cars. And to one away from the police, they have to make cars that fast. There's one car with Pokemon and then another with Yukio. Interesting law about that guy. He's a notorious conman. He's in prison. Aww. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Damn. That's a shame. Aww. I could put my Gucci's on. What are you singing over there, bro? What are you singing over there? when was this no show
Starting point is 00:13:26 well we got a few topics to trickle out here James has one oh we probably should start on so it's quite quite interesting quite weird it's more weird than it is
Starting point is 00:13:43 like it is like it's just weird man so like maybe I can't remember the actual context of this uh jarling's like their message to us in um yeah it was a few months back now it was but a jarling basically said that for some reason they might be related to me and uh i think they were saying that uh part of their family tree comes from the same area we're in and it happens
Starting point is 00:14:14 to share the same name i have and well basically we went to we went to divine yesterday shout out to Mark, a divine legend We're talking to my sister And then we got some house law That's kind of just opened the doors a bit Basically The house name that comes from the area we live in It's directly related to me
Starting point is 00:14:41 To you specifically Basically my grandfather His mum married a man and had kids with them but because she had my grandfather of another man my grandfather took the name and that name was house so my grandfather has eight brothers and sisters that all come from Kahn and the surrounding areas
Starting point is 00:15:05 so in short the house family that's in our town and the areas are directly related to my family so the James House in Khan is related to me, James House. And it doesn't stop there though. Which relative was it that bred the collies? So on one side you've got the house, and that's my dad's side, and then you've got my
Starting point is 00:15:33 mum's side. And on my mum's side, they... Her parents basically owned the farmhouse in Kahn and bred working dogs on it. That was the farmhouse that we went to a viewing to. years ago all four of us went to go look at no way
Starting point is 00:15:54 it was owned by James' family what yeah by the funeral place yeah yeah they bred collies there wow but the crazy thing is the jarling
Starting point is 00:16:04 who mentioned this is probably somehow related to me yeah we're gonna dig deep and actually look at the family trees it's like been confirmed it's 100% being confirmed
Starting point is 00:16:15 now that all the houses in this so yeah they are just offshoots of how weird is that that's crazy I think the world is way smaller than we think things like this definitely make you think that way yes so two different family trees and they all have like a they all converged in Kahn and then I ended up in Kahn it's a bit weird yeah so if your name's house you live in Wiltshire give me a shout we're probably related man
Starting point is 00:16:50 got anything else to say on that one no it's just crazy you must have a really big family but if there was eight brothers and sisters if my granddad has eight eight brothers and sisters the family tree is huge then
Starting point is 00:17:08 yeah spread all over but they're in like Australia America yeah all over the world you know what they say all roads lead to Swindon the house always wins Well guys
Starting point is 00:17:23 I got a couple things I want to talk about Do you want the The sad one Or the morally complicated Kind of exciting Can we do the sad one first Then the morally
Starting point is 00:17:39 I disagree Do it vice versa So Which should we do then Which one Morally complicated the problem is there are two votes and what's your vote my vote would actually be to do the sad sad first yeah because especially because you're going to do that exact sigh again probably when
Starting point is 00:18:00 i start reading what the topic is uh dark star v i i i says given the major layoffs at three four three in the departure of joe staten what are the what do the jar boys see as the future of halo that there is going to be any more work on the campaign are you invested in the multiplayer or have any faith in the game in this game bouncing back thoughts so yeah Joe Staten's gone so yeah there have been like widespread layoffs at Microsoft
Starting point is 00:18:28 as a lot of tech companies are doing at the moment about 10,000 staff gone wow they have like 200,000 staff working at Microsoft or something so just to put the size of that company in perspective but 60 of those people were from 3-4-3 just kind of gutting the team Joseph Staten has gone
Starting point is 00:18:54 he doesn't work it through-for-three anymore he's now gone back to Microsoft Publishing so I'd say that's a rat wasn't really a sacking then that was say an internal yeah they're probably like trying to time it all at the same because Bonnie Ross has gone all these people are gone and now it looks like a bunch of the the campaign side are gone um redundancies it's done it's finished yeah yeah halo's dead
Starting point is 00:19:19 i reckon give it a year or two and there'll be another one in the works that they're gonna have two um resident evil at yeah um there's i don't know if it's been like confirmed yet or whatever but there's like chatter of them turning more into like a publisher now so other developers will actually make the games and they'll just kind of Yeah, they need to find like a reliable studio. Yeah. That gets it. It's just like, this is it, their actual nail in the coffin.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah, yeah. Halo Infinite is dead. I reckon their best bet would be to sell the IP. No. No, they would never do that. Remake. Remake Halo 1. No, remake Halo 3.
Starting point is 00:20:06 That's where the money is. Next, they can build up to that, like doing remaking. But they've already tried, didn't they? The master of collection was that. Yeah, they've already remade. Remastered. They didn't remake. Yeah, I suppose it's more of a trend now.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But it's like, it's never had a chance to just take a break and go. It's always, there's been something like cooking. Yeah. Even when it didn't make sense. That's why I think, because do you remember after Resident Evil 6? Apart from like those DS games and stuff, it was like, Resident Evil doesn't exist anymore. yeah it's cultural capital just kind of evaporated and then resident evil seven came out and it was like
Starting point is 00:20:46 yeah they kind of figured out what they needed to do yeah so they i think they need to do that yeah it's just so like frustrating because yeah just the same cycle of three four games like Star Wars it was from
Starting point is 00:21:04 like the work yeah yeah like the second they wanted to continue yeah yeah hello four yeah but who cares there's plenty of other good games yeah that's the thing it's like I don't die it that's what's so frustrating there because it's like around those early days of infinite like the way people were talking about it and there was like prod was garbage battlefield was garbage and HALA was at least working and was like oh going kind of back to something we
Starting point is 00:21:38 haven't really had and it's just like this whole time if they were just done what the franchise is and had the content to back it then maybe it would be a different situation but for some reason this uh this company that was created to make halo games just cannot make a halo game i actually source i don't know if this is even true but apparently if used the dead body pops in forge world and depict them in a violent way to like show like you know environmental storytelling, your map will be removed from Forge because it shows violence. So you can't use the props in Forge because it's against terms and policy. Yeah, they've like gutted it of all of its like grunt and character and personality.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah, that's so weird because like the violence was like part of it. The blue blood squirting out of the aliens. Well, like Halo 1 when... The Flood. The flood and everything. A horror concept. Yeah. Yeah, just none of it makes any sense.
Starting point is 00:22:38 It's almost Velma levels of like absurd It's worse than Velma There, I said it It's worse than Velma What? Yeah No
Starting point is 00:22:46 Nothing's worse than Velma I think Halo It's like what I've said All along is that you need to let Halo go Everyone needs to collectively Let Halo go Give it 10 years But it's almost like
Starting point is 00:23:00 It's more insulting What they'd If they had actually let it go themselves If they should let it Just let it sit You know, if they had that patience, just to leave it be. They need to have the valve mentality to it.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah. We're just doing nothing until a little passion project comes up and it's like... Yeah, there's some kind of idea for it. Yeah. That whole thing is just bizarre and confusing and just silly. I just don't understand how they come to these conclusions. Just and the money involved. Hundreds of millions sunk into these projects.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So much money. and for what you know and it's like and I'll save this as well for later I think we've got a question about it instead I'll shift into moral quandaries the moral
Starting point is 00:23:49 bizarreness of what technology is now allowing us to do so have you guys heard about this this this this de-extinction company de-extinction like reversing extinction yeah Okay, you're going to have to...
Starting point is 00:24:07 So there's a, it's real. There's a de-extinction company that has been established. And at the moment, what they're trying to do is bring back the woolly mammoth. You know, you know that scene in Jurassic Park with the frog and that whole animated DNA thing? Yeah, yeah. It's literally that. The amber? Yeah, well, it's the same concept.
Starting point is 00:24:31 They take the DNA from the amber, fill in. the gaps in the DNA with modern animals. They're doing the same thing. They're using Indian elephant DNA to fill in the gaps in the fairly well-preserved Willie mammoth DNA that has been like retrieved from frozen samples or whatnot. Yeah. There's some found in Swindon, I'm pretty sure, same recently. Well, wasn't there that like huge block of ice with just like a mammoth, like perfectly
Starting point is 00:24:59 frozen? There's stuff like that, yeah. So you've got pretty good DNA like there. Yeah. um so yeah yeah take that indian elephant dna and somehow you can bring back willy mammoths and over the next couple years apparently they're going to start doing that um and there's like multiple kind of extinct animals that they're like thinking about maybe trying to well yeah because we can de-extinct animals but why um see this is this this what i'm about to say is going to can go off into another
Starting point is 00:25:34 new tangent, but Cybunk 207.7, it's an amazing game. One of the details in it I saw was that in one of the terminals ever is talking about hunting big game and the fact that they hump big game by lab growing the game and releasing it into the wild and then you hunt it. So if these scientists are bringing back extinct animals, it's just going to be for game hunting. Because killing a tiger, that's dopamine. Killing an extinct animal that shouldn't be here, that's like times 10. Well, it's like those weird conservation places that are fun by hunting, aren't they, or something? So, weirdly, it keeps the population alive.
Starting point is 00:26:12 But then if we can just de-extinctify stuff, then hunting becomes a bigger deal, because then we can just use it to make money. Because if you're lab-growing, extinct animals, they're lab-grown. And if you bring one thing back from extinction, then surely anything that exists presently or previously
Starting point is 00:26:41 presently or onward because like we might not have dinosaur DNA or whatever no but anything that exists at that time loses the ability to ever go extinct yeah as long as there's like a modern evolved loosely related facsimile like existing now you can fill the blanks with like if once this technology is is done successfully
Starting point is 00:27:09 nothing can ever die again yeah so it'll be like well we can just bring them back but then the then the i guess the challenge is more balancing um ecologies right because they were saying something about like willy mammoths like the way they would treat the environments like knock trees down in a certain way which would then animals below it would like eat the things that they forage and they'd like would squish the snow down in a
Starting point is 00:27:40 certain way which would like change temperatures or like all these kind of theories I think it's more interesting thinking about in terms of animals that have specifically been removed thanks to human interference like the Moa in New Zealand or something that was hunted to extinction
Starting point is 00:27:58 by humans like what is lacking in from the local ecology from taking these animals out that maybe reintroducing them in some way could balance in a different way I don't know but then or throw it off yeah exactly that's where the moral quandary comes in it's like well yeah just because you can does that mean you should Jurassic Park yeah I mean that it's literally that same question it just is Jurassic Park yeah but like I always thought that was like Like a silly, like, movie concept.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Like, you can't actually do that. You know, bring Willie Mammus back, so it's like... It's bonkers. And I don't think we should. I think we should, even when it's, like, from human causes, we should, uh, sleep in the bed we, we've made. We've made. But then what James was saying, with the, the potential to make Moolah Mula,
Starting point is 00:29:01 imagine like a zoo that has a dodo or if we can eat it what if we're mammoth taste bomb DFC Dodo with fried chicken What are they hiring the dodoes to fry the chicken Oh man It makes it like food supply and demand
Starting point is 00:29:27 More scary because at the moment It's like sure the corporate corporations will have like an amount of cows or chickens or whatever but when they're still living animals that have to reproduce right but then once corporations can just lab grow the food they now control the supply which means that becomes a more bigger ethical issue because then it's like if you you you go against the corporation then the food supply stops because they're lab growing at all because the same is going to happen with you know And it's also less morally disturbing
Starting point is 00:30:03 because then you don't have like factory farming if it's like... Well, it's just be labs. If it's like... Or more extreme factory farming with like the headless chickens, James loves to talk about. The like skyscrapers full of headless chickens.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Oh, oh, oh. No, the technology of being able to like remove parts of the brains of animals so that they don't they don't understand the horror they're in. So you can just have... skyscapers full of chickens that are like perfectly happy they're not happy or sad
Starting point is 00:30:34 they're just nothing they're just meat they're just growing meat but at that point then you can lab grow the chickens without the brains and then it is just lab growing skyscropers of meat there's no animal there at that point it's just meat yeah
Starting point is 00:30:50 because this is going to happen like this is going to happen in our lifetime like we're going to have the skyscrapers full of battery farmed genetic meat I really don't know how to feel about this It's stuff to think about Yeah and it's like Bo is all going downhill
Starting point is 00:31:09 But also like a lab grown bit of meat Is it vegan? Yeah But we're going down a different road now with that I'm just with the Bringing the woolly mammoth back Something tangible that like is Is closer than like
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah yeah Technology of this lab grown stuff because I assume like growing one willy mammoth is probably an extremely expensive endeavor right? Yes. But what does it mean by,
Starting point is 00:31:36 do they like IVF it into an elephant? Um, they give birth to this like I think that's one way of doing it Are they can also use like artificial wombs as well? It's in like rooms because I've seen like horses being grown in these rooms
Starting point is 00:31:50 But then then with that technology what's stopping us from like doing that with humans? No, but that's the next step. Yeah. Well, like, celebrities already, like, fly to Morocco and get, like, stem cell injections and stuff to, like, heal injuries or whatever, like, it's already, like, pretty crazy. No, but it'll be, like, the biggest, like, positive to this is that a woman doesn't have to sacrifice so many years to have a child when you can just have it artificially grown in a virtual womb. That's already happening, basically, like, the surrogate thing that, like, the Kardashians do whatever. they have someone else have their child.
Starting point is 00:32:28 No, but then that's another woman doing it. We're talking about an actual, completely artificial thing, that you can just, that's where the baby goes growing, but then you're not, a woman's not having to sacrifice so many years for that. Because then that's, I see it better, healthier. But it's also kind of freaky. It is freaky. It's not unnatural, it's not white.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah, it's not human. But you're just like, it's like delivered to you by like Amazon. The stalk. Yeah. Well, no, because then obviously you've got, remember, corporations are going to be the one, like the biggest companies are going to be able to do this. Our companies like Amazon, because they've got so much money. So you will get baby deliveries. Well, yeah, it'll be so expensive.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It will probably just be like a small select. No, but it will be the mainstream. You've got to pick your company now, though. You can pick Amazon. But now, though, I want to focus more on specifically, Jim was kind of saying, leaning more towards the mammoth. back mammoth know, where do you lie on that, James? What does your gut tell you about bringing, the concept
Starting point is 00:33:33 of bringing back of Willie Mammoth within the space of two or three years? No, but then, no, but this is, no matter what, morally, even if you're against it, someone isn't. Like, no matter what you do. What do you think? If you could switch it off right now, would you? Like, if you... But then I'd
Starting point is 00:33:49 switch off knowing in a year someone else would start doing it again. No, no, but let's phrase it more like this then, that you have like a vote on a council, and it's either a yes or no. Okay, so we're split evenly between yes or no. My vote is that only won them as. Devil's advocate, I'd have to go, yeah. I actually don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:17 No, good, pro, no. Is it being too optimistic? You'd be just curious about what the meat tastes like. Is it too optimistic and hopeful to think that there are ways to, like, help the environment by, like, or is that just tinkering that's just too much like you know we're playing we're playing with shit
Starting point is 00:34:30 but beyond our comprehension but how could it possibly like improve the environment you wouldn't we're like we're running out of ice right like it's all melting where the woolly mammoth's going to go and be comfortable
Starting point is 00:34:49 I don't know I don't know enough about like how they affect the environment or what the eye what like they're if they just want to do this like once and then that's like look like they they died yeah like hundreds of thousands of years ago right yeah i don't actually know when they went extinct um and that wasn't due to humans it was the environment not supporting them anymore yeah because they existed in the so that is a fact of you then so let's change the vote to mowers then what would you say with them because they were hunted yeah absolutely so you
Starting point is 00:35:28 would so that's interesting to me well no because Australia and New Zealand are good examples of this because every time they tried to mess with the biology of their country it's gone it's fucked them up yeah the possums the cane toads in Australia emus emus what is she crunching back there Billy She's just picking at the light No she was crunching something
Starting point is 00:35:57 Because no the other day Like complete tangent It was about 11 o'clock at night Everything on here For those listening I'm pointing at the windowsill Just came tumbling down I just heard this crazy crash
Starting point is 00:36:12 Because there's all bottles up there So it was just going I came up to investigate Thinking maybe Billy was trying to climb But no she was in there Like at the top of her podium, it wouldn't be possible. Somehow, like, everything up there, except that Lego set had, like, fallen down.
Starting point is 00:36:31 So down there is now a bunch of, like, dirt and cactus stones, because they're, of course, cactus up there as well. I said it's a ghost. There's nothing else it could be besides a ghost. It could have been Billy. No, it could have been Billy. Look at us. You're saying this, it's now moodily looking in the other direction.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Luckily, the hair jar didn't, like, crack open, because then that would have been another. kind of pandemic on our eyes. Billy would have a couple hair balls, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I don't know, with the human one, I feel like... So Willie Mammis went extinct about 10,000 years ago.
Starting point is 00:37:03 So not that long. Is that it? When... Yeah, they existed the same time as humans. When was the... When were the pyramids made? Oh, good question.
Starting point is 00:37:15 60 years ago? Sounds about why. I can. I could put my Louieve Wittons. Pyramid build date roughly 2550 to 2490 BC. So that's 4,000 years ago. About, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Bit more. So 5,000 years before the pyramids. Is that not crazy to you? We're getting closer to the, the pyramid. The pyramids being closer to the mammoths than we are the pyramids. No, we're closer to the pyramids than the monuments. Yeah, but eventually, we're not going to be. The pyramids will be closer to the mammoths than us.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Wow. Time is crazy. A thousand years is a really long time. Mm-hmm. A lot can change in 10, let alone 1,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:19 We can't really comprehend that kind of space of time. what's with the looks you know have you heard about the theory that if you were to go back in time you literally wouldn't be able to do anything well like you couldn't communicate with anyone you couldn't know but it's it's a theory that it's like if you tried to change anything
Starting point is 00:38:37 it would stop you things would happen to stop you actually having a fear in the fear it's the Voikov principle what would stop you but yourself something would stop you wouldn't be able to do it
Starting point is 00:38:50 yeah because it's all been predetermined or whatever. No, as soon as you start looking into like space and the passing of time, it just becomes insane. That's like, why are we messing around with things on the planet? We need to think bigger. The crazy is out there.
Starting point is 00:39:09 We need to go find the crazy. But surely the, um, the answer to our problems is probably going down some scientific path. And everything's, everything is down a scientific path. So, This just like opens this whole Pandora's box to me A de-extinction company like existing
Starting point is 00:39:29 I think it's whack Would that mean that if you have DNA from someone From thousands of years ago You can recreate them Sure, right? Genghis Khan is being brought back And he's going to be on TikTok The next Andrew Tate
Starting point is 00:39:47 He's feeling bit of what you left by Andrew Tate Yeah I don't know It's just something to think about Okay, so let's just say We have DNA of like any figure From the last 4,000 years And we can bring one of them back
Starting point is 00:40:00 Who'd at me? Um I don't know I like animals more Jesus Jesus Yeah Yeah oh and um
Starting point is 00:40:16 I can't remember what they're called But I've got a picture of them these old gorgans they're like dogs of stripes on them aren't they still alive they were only went extinct like a few decades ago so they're thinking about bringing them back this is what i mean though there's going to be like no limit on it just be like yeah bring them back and a megaladon yeah the extinct tasmanian tiger if you know what we should do is you should bring back proper pugs we should let the proper pugs fight the new the new the new pugs, so you wins.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And then they claim whichever wins claims the true title. What's a proper pug? When they didn't have their noses. Before they got inbred to be dup. So we let them fire
Starting point is 00:41:05 and whichever wins becomes the true pug. Because that would just benefit them. He'd win. I found this article it's like a, I guess a list planet, sorry, website or something. A list planet. A list. It's because it's
Starting point is 00:41:19 Because the website is called One Kind Planet.org. But they've just got this... The title is top ten extinct animals. Just that phrasing, like, just like... Yeah, what does that mean? The best extinct animals. Just to refresh my memory on some things that are extinct. Like, the passenger pigeon.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Or the Stella's sea cow. Those of weird birds. Oh, dodo's were like really ugly, man Yeah Look like they got mange Like what's that Like what, okay people would line up to see a saber tooth cat
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, I would People would pay big bucks to do that No, this is the thing you've got realized This is not being driven by anything science-related Or curiosity or the greater good It's being driven by what can make money But surely like If they brought back herds of mammoths
Starting point is 00:42:19 that would be like suddenly a tourist thing yeah people would be like going to see the migrating man really don't do it there yeah I don't know man too far too far we're finding on too far I just feel like
Starting point is 00:42:34 reel it back stand down the resources right now though could go into something different right what bringing back yeah it's got to be bringing back something like bringing back the Rolling Stones or the Beatles Bring back
Starting point is 00:42:53 Lenin Not the Russian guy Like John Lennon I meant Bring back Putin Lenin Um Bring back Stalin
Starting point is 00:43:08 No the craziest thing I learned this recently Which is going to sound dumb It's going to make me sound like I know nothing But the Beatles and the Rolling Stones but at the same time and that blew in my mind. Oh really? Yeah, because that's like the debate. I thought Beatles was like 10 years prior
Starting point is 00:43:23 because there's no way anyone would listen to the Beatles over the Rolling Stones. Oh, so there you go. That explains it then actually. Yeah. You're an anti-beetles thing this whole time. I like them both. I prefer the Beatles. Because you're a stoner. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You've always been anti-Betles though. Even though they're the best. They're so good. They're not non-songs. That's just... They're not what songs? Oh, Nile songs. No, but that's the problem with the rolling stones.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Only Nile songs. Yeah, that's because sometimes the vibe. Ooh, Biddy's a little huge line like that. I love the fact that when she's like that, she looks tired and her eyes are very low, but then she's just like ready to attack. Beed-ee! the room she like stays in like has a little slit like permanently open and she like she sits perfectly so you can just see her eyes in the darkness it's really scary she does
Starting point is 00:44:29 that like down the garden and you're like if there is one bit of light it will reflect off their eyes and that's all you'll see so you know apparently how they see in the dark so well how their eyes are so reflective that any light that like bounces into their eyes will be reflected back to what they're looking at and then back into their eyes so they can see it wow that's why um the little things are called cats eyes on the road because they reflect light so you can see cats eyes are a great invention now that's a good invention right there yeah um and when you drive over them they get a little wash it's true they have um suds under the road so the road is like floating on a thin bed of suddy water i like hitting them because they make good noises yeah because it goes splash because it dunks in the suds i hate the word sud stop saying i hate the word suds you're so right there i agree no but it's just like when you get on a road that doesn't have cat size it's like i can't see shit yeah instantly 100 of suds you just triggered like a memory
Starting point is 00:45:43 something gross I was talking to someone right and there was they're describing the way their parents like clean up things during the day let me explain so like I guess they don't have a dishwasher or something in the morning they run like they fill the sink with warm water and some suds so do you yeah um and instead of just cleaning everything then and there they leave that water in there for the whole day and every time
Starting point is 00:46:14 they like have a cup of coffee or a cup of tea or whatever even if there's dregs in the cup they like put it in that water give it a little shake and then just like put it put it away but they use the same water for the whole day is that to save money or something i don't know but by the end of the day obviously water's just full of tea and coffee And I just found that I hate that When I do the dishes Like without a dishwasher
Starting point is 00:46:44 I always like If there's a fully drank Cup of tea So an empty cup But it's had tea in it I've got to rinse it out Before I put it in the sink To wash it
Starting point is 00:46:56 Because otherwise it's just gonna be like You're washing with tea Yeah And then you then you Wash it And then you have the other part Of clean water Where you wash it again
Starting point is 00:47:05 And that's it Because you're using Of water She have, you have your washing up pot with your, you know, detergent or whatever, your cleaning solution. You wash it in there and then you put, you, like, wince it and cleaning in clean water and then you try it. Because then it's clean. Wow. James is so clean.
Starting point is 00:47:28 No, I'm just, no, but you, I, this is where probably some part of my brain is a bit up because. That picture you sent me, James, of Argy, doing this exact thing. I'm sorry, listeners, but this is a visual thing right now. No, but you've seen, like, I can't drink from water, any glass unless it's been, I've, like, felt the inside of it. Because if there's even a crusty bit of food. That's too far, though. no but bro bro sometimes
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'll get like glasses at my dishrushet and they'll just be like lasagna pieces stuck on the inside like small little bits and I'm like so I have to I'm like really anal
Starting point is 00:48:20 about any the cleanliness of drink like things you drink from because you're on drink sign if it's got bitty food chunks in the inside mm hmm hmm
Starting point is 00:48:32 mm hmm well we'll see you have to these messages. Oh, oh, oh, oh. That's it. Attacker, pace it. Attack.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Billy, smash, smash. Buy Bear Bear, Bear. I do declare buy Bear Bear Bear. Bear Bear shirts and mug available now. Check the description below. description below she's fitted into the requirements of a jar animal which is really dumb pictures if you can't take really dumb pictures of them they decide they're not a jar animal we've got to have equal humor to cuteness value yeah argue has it paisley has a lot of it
Starting point is 00:49:27 and billy has it paisley might have it the most no argy has it of all the iconic photos like the one I've put in the group chat I get the vibe though that Jarlings don't really like Paisley very much. Why? He never gets mentioned. Billy does, Argy does because she's wrong. Guys does never gets mentioned. No he does
Starting point is 00:49:50 man. No did you not see the recent breakdown? Of what? That's exactly why he's special right there. Such a good face. Yeah, I don't know how it's so much. I don't know what cast that's in. New J.R. episode 5. It was Randy.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah, there's your Randy up. Oh, yeah. What a legendary moment. I don't think I've ever known a funnier animal than I think he's the funniest creature I've ever, like, interacted with. He was really sweet yesterday. No, he's since... Hey, Jamie. I've really missed you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And then he, then he, like, stands next to me and his tails wagging, and I touch him and he's like, so fucking. Like ridiculous. Since he's left this house, he's become a better dog. Yeah. He's generally a lovely boy. He was happy to see me today and it was just like, hello, Argy! Yeah, I think not having Pays around has been quite good for him. For both of them, because Pays is like really annoying.
Starting point is 00:51:26 He's around. She becomes this little ass-eating follower. I mean, she's always an ass-eating follower. But when she's following the shit-eating, Yeah, uh, gremlin. She's kind of like, um, Spider from Avatar 2, where she, you know, she thinks she's something she's not. Oh, yeah, yeah. She thinks she's a corgi.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Let's go, cuss. Run bro, rock! Welcome to the second half of the JAR Media POSD Act, where we answer questions from the JAR Media community. Head over to the suggestion thread on the suburb. Reddit not ours slash flaf jar media just like Chris Peacock did and this is one I actually screenshot last episode but the thread was so good last episode that there were a bunch of there were just too many to choose from and I forgot about this one I'm gonna need you guys to put on your um you know your thinking goggles a little bit your your BS goggles see if you
Starting point is 00:52:29 see any lies in this but I don't know I feel like there's truth in here the day Today I met the most evil Jarling. In episode 304, during the Patreon name segment, a name gave details of a Jarling fan meetup in my city of Perth, Australia, on Boxing Day. I was surprised to hear there were Jarlings nearby, but excited to attend and hopefully make some new friends. On the day, I arrive at the disclosed location and begin asking people nearby if they're here for the JAR meetup.
Starting point is 00:52:59 For the next 20 minutes, I was met with the expected, confused faces, or being straight up ignored, as if I was a drugged-up homeless person spewing nonsense. I waited around for another 30 minutes after this and finally saw a person roughly my age arrive. I approached them, intending them to be my last person to us before just going home. But luckily, they were actually here for the said meetup. We quickly introduce ourselves and it goes quite well due to our shared niche interest. I was excited at being able to make a friend with someone who seemed lovely.
Starting point is 00:53:31 after talking for a while we realize no one else is coming so he suggests we see a movie luckily the new avatar was playing quite soon so we walked to a nearby cinema I'm first to pay for my own ticket and snacks followed by the Jarling however when told the price of his ticket and snacks he begins fumbling around in his bag in pockets telling me he's left his wallet at home I didn't think it was a big deal so I just paid for him too I thought it would be a nice gesture to form the foundation of our friendship and he was very grateful. As the credits for the film began to play, he tells me he was desperate to use the bathroom, which was understandable after such a long film. So I stayed back to pick up our
Starting point is 00:54:11 rubbish. I waited for him outside the bathroom for about 20 minutes before going in myself. To my utter shock, there was only one older gentleman at the urinal to be found. This bastard paid about 15 Australian dollars on a Patreon name segment to stage a fake meetup in order to con a free ticket and snacks valued at 35 Australian dollars. If the evil jarling is reading this and I'm wrong and you had some emergency or something, let me know. What else I'll continue warning this community about your scummy behavior? Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yo. That's dark. That's like a Joker plan. It's like the most innocent Joker ever. Maybe he just really wanted to see. avatar well you can you can scrounge together 15 America Australian dollars to do that she can pay you can pay for the Patreon but you can't see well maybe it was his last money the only thing that really makes sense to me is that maybe it was
Starting point is 00:55:20 someone who was just like yeah I was actually no but they bonded over the niche it doesn't make sense they both knew from what I can tell this isn't evil individual is that what it is we got an evil patron on our hands that's please you got some explaining to you to do you that's a mad clear air yeah man kind of yeah stunned by that one um stick them up asks a simple one when was the last time you genuinely fell over a few days go. Do you remember what you were doing? Well, at the moment in the UK, it's like, you know, it's winter. It's cold. Icey. So after work, you know, I walk, you know, I live in the sticks.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Now, I'm quite country. So there's just one woe that goes around all the small houses and it's a single track and whatnot. Half muddy, you know, there's no one off of water. Ice. I was like my phone almost at the field. I step. on straight on my ass fine it's just thing when you fall over if you don't expect it it's fine
Starting point is 00:56:34 as long as you don't tense up you're fine it's quite an enjoyable experience so I go to the field I walk back same spot Gaias walks there Gaias falls over on the way back same spot and it's like you fucking try
Starting point is 00:56:47 even four legs can't save you but this is my whole thing it's like falling over is like a car crash as long if you don't expect it and you don't tense up it's only a good time man done about that one no because it's like
Starting point is 00:57:01 wag doll white because once you it's when you slip over when you slip over you just you're just gone and you don't realize that you're just flying through the air and then you're on your ass
Starting point is 00:57:13 it's a fun time so it's like the next time you fall over you're trying to say car crashes are a fun time to be honest looking back at my motorbike crashes they were all kind of fun there's something about losing your whole body weight
Starting point is 00:57:30 just being flung that is kind of fun and relaxing I don't think you'll get it relaxing yeah because you're so powerless in that moment and your body is just going somewhere and you didn't choose where it goes that's my biggest fear
Starting point is 00:57:47 it's like a journey right it's like you're going on a cruise ship so there's all I'm saying is it's a fun time and when that next happens to you, make your mind completely empty in that moment and you'll have a fun time. I don't remember the last time I fell over. I walk into things a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yeah, I smack my limbs on things really hard all the time. Yeah, I often walk into like doorways. I often like walking backwards through doorways and like I always hit my like shoulder or something. I smacked my thumb on a door hand. or this morning. Yeah, I'm incredibly painful. But falling over, though,
Starting point is 00:58:31 I can't really remember, especially when it is ICM, so paranoid. Yeah, same. No, but that's why. That, no, what you see there is you're so paranoid about falling over that when you fall over, but when you do fall over, you're going to be, it's going to not be fun and you're going to hurt yourself more.
Starting point is 00:58:49 If you just go limp and you just fall over, you're going to have a good time. There's a cat hair everywhere Yeah, I don't know man I did see Argy and Paisley both fall over on ice though When I went on a walk with them the other day That's pretty funny It's quite quite hilarious
Starting point is 00:59:13 I think dogs falling over is much funnier than humans No, humans falling over is way funnier No, because humans like it's Like we're like a straight line No, but with humans, humans don't have elegance when they fall over, animals do. Dogs don't. They don't. No, they do, they do.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Because they never fully stack it. Like when dogs fall over, it's just cute, it's like, aw. But when humans fall over, it's like, like that dog that runs after that big bowl and goes, it's funny. No, but that's the thing dogs clearly know it's fun. So then they just like stretch the size out and they just move. I think there's an old jar that now. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:00:04 It's like the one on the swing. It was just, it hits the swing. Yeah, they know, man. Tiger 1-1-1 says, there's been a theory going around that Velma was intentionally made to be bad and offensive to make people hate watch it. If that's hypothetically true, What do you think about companies like HBO, Netflix, etc?
Starting point is 01:00:27 Starting to make bad shows on purpose in the future, basically trolling people into watching their shows. Personally, I think that would be the worst timeline from an artistic perspective. Thanks for the great pod bean I listen every week. Keep on gaming on. Kind of tease this earlier. Disturbing concept for sure. I think this might be what Bigmouth was designed to be from the get-go.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Designed to be, but then people just loved it. Yeah, they were like, really, they were like is the bar really this low? Wait, okay, now, let's play a little game. How many episodes of Big Mouth do you think there are? Probably over 100. So your guess is 100? Jim. I'm gonna say like 70 odd.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Damn, really good guess, 62 episodes. Ooh, 62 episodes of Big Mouth. With more on the way. That's seven seasons worth. season seven's coming up I mean I can't remember where I even stop
Starting point is 01:01:29 I hate watching that one I yeah seasons ago I couldn't do it anymore before it was like oh wow they've made another one let's watch that
Starting point is 01:01:39 and now it's just like they come out like every other month yeah people just love it I guess people watch it and must get the numbers
Starting point is 01:01:47 or whatever I mean part of me gets it like something to put on that you really don't have to like you don't even have to focus on it you know it's much more enjoyable the less you focus on it yeah until it just becomes like noise yeah it's just noise with a bit of movement yeah um what do you think about this idea of these companies making things
Starting point is 01:02:20 intentionally bad to annoy people on purpose to get people to watch it I can't believe it but yeah but then I think about like have you seen anything about this latest witcher show for example that spin-off witcher show in the movie
Starting point is 01:02:34 was it actually a show blood tracket something like that blood origin blood origin and it's like comedically bad and it's just like
Starting point is 01:02:47 why people are watching it though because it was just being clown so hard I'm sure a lot of people are I went I we don't have HBO Max here but I did search for Velma on now TV it's not it was not on there so I couldn't watch it but I probably would have watched a bit of it
Starting point is 01:03:06 just out of interest just because it was in the zeitgeist yeah true it's the the age old publicity thing yeah it's kind of more marketing isn't it it does seem a bit like I can't really imagine a team sitting down and being like yeah let's just embarrass ourselves for this
Starting point is 01:03:25 yeah you know it might be more like what's something that will be like controversial and get people talking yeah what if we made like Scooby-Doo without a dog yeah that's how it began they thought they were doing like the James Cameron adding the S to Alien thing yeah
Starting point is 01:03:41 Scooby-Doo without Scooby-Doo it's more like taking alien and removing that end Ailey Ailey Yeah What if What if season one ends though
Starting point is 01:03:57 And They're like doing this This like mystery And then The mystery is Scooby Yeah basically They're like I can't figure this out
Starting point is 01:04:12 And then they hear re-he It's like The Thanos T is Yeah And then season two It's just all about the Scoob No, they can't do it What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:04:24 So I'm pretty sure There is a character That kind of fills in That role But it's a human Um No, no Scooby-Doo is now a fucking human In this Scooby-Doo show
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah I don't know, I haven't seen it But that's the impression I'm getting Uh Yeah, I don't know Man I'm not freaking though I don't know
Starting point is 01:04:46 dirty boy bro do you know how old these shoes are they're starting to fall apart I'll tell you what I did actually go on though when I was on now TV was the first episode of The Last of Us oh yes it's like an hour and 20 minute long first episode
Starting point is 01:05:06 and I've never experienced it with media before where it's like you know that feeling when you've read the book before seeing the film and it's like like kind of take something out of it even though it's like objectively pretty much like really good it's it's it's faithful to the point where like they use like everything basically like almost shot to shot like you'll recognize basically everything and I guess it's what
Starting point is 01:05:38 everyone's been asking for it's like a faithful uh conversion So it's like, yeah. It's a weird one because it's like, yeah, there's, there's quality there. But I'm like not hyped because I know anything that happens. Like I remember all the shots and all the characters and, yeah, maybe it gets more different as it goes along. But I'm kind of more curious almost on people who have never played it. Like, yeah. Yeah, but you know the story though, surely.
Starting point is 01:06:10 No. Nothing. No. I don't know how James. just doesn't engage in any of like pop culture especially with how totally online you are no pop culture I'm not involved in no but like you watch I dipped out of Marvel I dipped out of Marvel like never ain't adrenners oh oh what about adroners they're big pop culture anime yeah is it if no but even then
Starting point is 01:06:41 what pop what pop what pop what pop what pop what pop what pop have I actually seen I've not seen my hero academia I've not seen one piece I've not Onward shaggamble. Naruto. None of the big ones I've watched. I'm watching Monster. Monster. Monster.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah. When's monster ever in the zeitgeist? It's not. Also, like a shot-for-shot adaption of the manga. Really enough. Read the manga then, bitch. Because I was seeing, like, people, because people were often clowning on that Halo show
Starting point is 01:07:11 for not being enough, like, the source material. Now people are saying, like, well, it's just boring, because it is the sourceman, it's too accurate. It's the story for people, for not gamers. It's last of us, Phenormis. Phenormis. But it's also like, Pedro Pascal is, like, really good.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Yeah, he's a very, very good actor. Yeah, he's perfect as Joel. I like, who's, like, Tess, who... Can I have women from Fringe? She's Tess? Oh, I thought I remember. recognized her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I'm from fringe and the wire. He's in destiny, Jim. Not fucking. Yeah, when's the destiny show coming out? I'm surprised there hasn't been one. It's not faithful enough. This is too entertaining. This has too much to follow.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I'll keep watching that. Although the, one of the biggest things to me was like, man, like the 2010s were really defined by like zombie media. Holy shit, it was everything. Ever since The Walking Dead Man? Yeah. It blew up, like huge.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Dead Island, it peaked at Dead Island and it was just kind of dropped off. That's true. Yeah, that was. Dead Island rocked. Dead Island was the best, the best zombies thing ever. No. No, no, no, no. ever
Starting point is 01:08:41 the best piece of media nothing nothing will give you more fun than Dead Island yeah no what's what do you what do you say then
Starting point is 01:08:49 and we didn't we didn't even enjoy dead island with alcohol because that would have fucking whamped out to like 11 um
Starting point is 01:08:58 I did I did read the Walking Dead quite a lot I read the 100 issues of it and then stopped when yeah
Starting point is 01:09:06 whatever happens when Greg gets bonked yeah um Greg no Greg He's Greg
Starting point is 01:09:13 He's just a random MPC That people scream his name In The Last of Us too Greg Greg no Not Greg and his dog Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:26 Luda Joe star has one for you James Does James have any interesting Car Meetup stories As I believe he's mentioned Going on some On the cast before No I don't think I have
Starting point is 01:09:38 Besides that we had to scatter from a multi-story car park in Swindon away from the police. That's the only one. How did you know police were coming? Because they blocked off the bloody multi-story car park. How'd you get out then? We booked out of the other entrance and it was just like Fast and Furious and it was just like a hundred cars booking it in every direction.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Did you book it? Yeah. Why didn't you get caught? Because you... In numbers, bro. They can't stop you in numbers. What were you driving then? The bluey.
Starting point is 01:10:10 How did you get away? The loudest car ever. Yeah, Vlory. I was in Vlory. And then there's the time when someone got... We were at a car meet and there was loads of people smoking weed at a car meet.
Starting point is 01:10:24 And the only person who got arrested and pulled over was a guy on a moped for speeding on a moped. There's the guy who got Brees thrown at his car. Bree? Oh, Bree. There was a street where... You know the dual carriage ran in Swindon?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Mm-hmm. There was a street race going on there. And the guy was in a Weno Clio. And he was a notorious twat. So he got on a street race with a guy in a mini. And as he broke fast, someone got a block of Bury. Threw it in the window and it covered the window. Because it's a Weno.
Starting point is 01:10:57 It's French cars and brief. Man, that stretch is actually, like, perfect thinking about it. Yeah. You can go pretty fast on there. Interesting. No, other than that, I've not got any other crazy car meet stories. I tend to not go to them anymore because it's just like not an interesting crowd. Because it's all like people go there for attention depending what car they drive
Starting point is 01:11:23 when I don't want that. So that's not the car of culture I'm into. That's too classy now anyway. Yeah, it's just like I'd rather just some guy talked to me in a car park. It's just like, oh, I like a car. It's like, cool, man. But yeah, I don't do car meets. Because I know they're a big thing in America because America's got street takeovers.
Starting point is 01:11:38 You've probably seen clips of them where... What does that mean? You know, those big intersections where it's... Loads people get out of their car, stand in a circle, and loads of people just drift, do little skids in the middle. Oh, yeah. And there's loads of clips of people getting one over and shit and getting killed in these.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Really? Because then that sometimes needs to, like, gun violence. Oh. Because you've got all this shit going on. It's really, like, while they're doing that in the middle of an intersection, the people who are waiting are getting, like, furious. Yeah. It's like the worst part of car culture at the moment,
Starting point is 01:12:09 and America needs to stop it. It's just gross. Is that like a big American thing? No, it only happens in America. Would you go to... They're not doing it in Japan ever, I swear what I saw them. No, no, in Japan it's different because they're not blocking streets. They're on like abandoned, like, um, docks at the middle of the night just drifting.
Starting point is 01:12:24 It's very different because they're not interfering with people. But in America, the whole thing is like, it's a street takeover. It's a different, different thing. Would you go to like where they have all the hydraulics? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good cool thing.
Starting point is 01:12:38 It's just like your car looks cool. Yeah. And it bounces. And it bounces, yeah. Yeah, I'd like to see that IRO. That'd be hilarious. Japan. Did they do bouncing?
Starting point is 01:12:48 Yeah. They've got huge American scene in Japan. Everything, if it's related to cars, it's done best in Japan, and that's just a fact. Because they view passions differently, though. Smein Choker. That was a weird one here. Did you guys ever have a teacher who was fired after some sort of scandal? There was a PE coach at my high school who was.
Starting point is 01:13:10 unanimously hated by everyone because he was constantly on a power trip and loved to make fun of students one day an amateur porno with him and it started spreading around school causing him to be fired it was a strange video and that two people were doing it while on the couch and many other men stood around watching and cheering there's even a point where they're banging against a window and the coach goes around the other side and begins licking the window well yeah you should probably lose your you should be fired if you're working in a school and you've been seen in a dirty porno I I don't if it's a clean porn no no because if what if
Starting point is 01:13:51 Johnny Sends wanted to like change career no well no because it's like the safeguarding of children right yeah but like what does that have to do with his previous job Do you guys remember anything like this? I don't ever remember hearing of when I was in sixth form a local primary school having something. A full on pedder. Yeah, a full on pedder. Now I'm doing just heinous shit.
Starting point is 01:14:31 But sorry, that term is just like... Pedder asked. Full on pedder. no wasn't mr g a bit of uh i wouldn't call this guy in the thingy you know full on pedder necessarily no that's just creep yeah yeah yeah i mean that it i i i i i i i i think that is a different thing because like that a lot i think a lot of um women school teachers as well have been
Starting point is 01:15:08 discovered for that sort of specifically in America you yes you hear about it like weirdly often oh what like teachers having relations with the boys no like teachers having an only fan no it's having a lot in this country as well on this kind yeah yeah I think you're right um recently those a big one recently like is that is that illegal that's the thing that's what I'm saying I don't know like this coach like I'm sure it's a case by case but like having porn on the side there is that check you have to do if you do any job that's to do with
Starting point is 01:15:44 children yeah um but I don't know if like what this kind of thing means yeah fuck knows but I'm pretty sure we had a bit of a a creepster we did but I don't know if that was all like like secondary school yeah I don't know if that was all hearsay like rumours
Starting point is 01:16:04 what he ended up quitting pretty or being fired pretty soon after. Was it the D.T. teacher? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, there was a lot of rumours about him. Yeah, yeah, they were. Yeah, like dropping pens and then telling girls to like...
Starting point is 01:16:18 Yeah, I'm going to pick it up or whatever him. In front of him. He was a power trip teacher. Yeah, yeah. Big definitely. And yeah, he was like a really scary. Uh-huh. But, yeah, there's all sorts of stuff that was like spoken about.
Starting point is 01:16:35 But you never really knew what the truth was. Yeah, especially because you're so young at the time, you have no idea what's actually going on. Let's do a couple more here. Suspicious Choice, 858. Hello, Mingers, New Jarling here. I started listening to the Posdak in December of 2022, but with one small twist. I've been listening to each episode in reverse chronological order. It's like watching Memento, but instead of finding out who murdered your wife,
Starting point is 01:17:07 I'm trying to figure out why you keep saying bear bear. It's a pretty fun way of listening to the cast and having moments where I finally get the context for gags in previous episodes after going backwards through 10 episodes. Like why you guys are constantly talking about porn addiction. One last thing. It's actually because of our teacher in the second. I still have no idea which is James, which is Jamie,
Starting point is 01:17:32 and which one is Jim. Love the cast and appreciate you, lads. I guess I'd never considered how confusing that potentially is Because Jim is also a shortened version for James Yeah, that's the thing is that the Nick James doesn't But I never say Jamie James does True
Starting point is 01:17:50 So but then you can pick up But imagine these Imagine these people are only listening to the audio version Because if they watch it You can instantly see who's talking and whose voice goes and whose voice And whose face Yeah I don't know
Starting point is 01:18:05 don't necessarily blame people for that um i also don't even really blame someone for listening in this order i've done that a podcast before i think that's kind of a cool idea i could never do that though really i've got to start from one and go through it's why i don't really listen to podcast anymore actually true i have in saying that i have never done that i would do that i would get into a podcast or this is what i do still i'll get into a podcast know what i like and then go back at the beginning. Yeah. And it's really frustrating actually
Starting point is 01:18:37 because there might be like an episode on a podcast that's specifically interesting for that one episode. But I don't want to listen to it because it's like, no, I need to start from number one and go through.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Oh, right. And catch up. I think it depends on like the show or whatever. Because this is like, I don't know, there's so many layers that jar onboarding is like a process in and of itself, you know. It's almost like destiny.
Starting point is 01:19:04 yeah no we are just destiny um but then there are other there are like some podcasts i'll only listen to like where they have like a different guest on each episode and it's like being pick and choose if it's a guest i can yeah yeah no i i can do that when like the point of the podcast
Starting point is 01:19:22 is that yeah this person so if obviously if there's a person that like you don't like or just talks about stuff you're not interested it and then you don't have to watch it um yeah you do you man
Starting point is 01:19:42 I want to know you guys thoughts on watching content at anything above one time speed yeah I can't that's just wrong I got a bit of a confession to me guys you watch everything at like 1.5
Starting point is 01:19:59 nah I watch a lot of you conversational YouTube content I'll watch at 1.25. Yeah, I do understand that. I would do that. It cuts like a quarter out of the runtime. Yeah. Well, yeah, but I don't watch
Starting point is 01:20:14 the type of videos you guys watch where I've got like a two hour long mouth on video to get through. Yeah, you do. Warhammer law. Yeah. No, stop. If anyone's watching Lutin on 1.25,
Starting point is 01:20:26 they deserve to be executed. You don't skimp on that man's sexy voice. But the thing I find is that on one time speed if my mind has a short wonder you know like down to the shops or whatever then I haven't missed too much by the time
Starting point is 01:20:46 I start to like pay attention again whereas if it's on anything faster it's like oh like the conversation's totally changed and I just miss like a big chunk and I have to rewind it and then my brain does the same thing so I have to rewind it like five times Yeah, I know what you mean
Starting point is 01:21:02 I was just wondering I can't go above any I've tried but it kind of distorts it way too much I think here's a question Have you ever had one headphone with one video on one headphone with another And then have them like that
Starting point is 01:21:18 And then you're just like Absorbing double the content While playing a video game Yeah I hold one book in this hand And one in that hand And my left eye reads the left book And my right eye reads the right book One major one
Starting point is 01:21:31 while you're listening to two different audio books. Yeah. So what I would say is I think there's a problem now with younger people and is probably from our generation of, well, of over-stimulation. Oh, yeah. So why are you actually willingly choosing to consume that much stuff at once? What's the reason for it? Because it can't be good in any way for the brain.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Reading a book with the I-Each? No. No, as in like, you know what I mean? it's like a common meme online it's just like watching seven media at once so my brain doesn't have a single fortway but like the amount of people I talk to where it's just like oh I'll be playing cod and I'll have
Starting point is 01:22:10 I'll have like a watch video in the background and then a total war video in the background while talking to my girlfriend and my mates it's like you can't do all that at once but I will say though I like you got your sieve match going that's no but sieve is very different
Starting point is 01:22:26 sieve is very different because sieve is not cod like you can't You can't do other things while playing Cod. No, if I'm playing Cod, I'm 100% in Cod. Yeah, but with CIV, you can... Not with Cod. On Apex, I'll listen to music. But Cod, no, I've got to be...
Starting point is 01:22:42 100%. It depends on the pacing of the thing you are enjoying. Exactly, and SIV is a slow burner. Because it's like, oh, I'm waiting for Alex to take his turn. I'm going to just go watch a YouTube show for 20 minutes. When we're playing Siv, I will have Spotify playing. Yeah, I'll listen to music when playing Siv. See, I don't know how anyone listening.
Starting point is 01:23:00 to any music when playing. Really? I can't... As you were just saying, like, when it's not your turn or whatever, like, it's just like in the background. No, I can't...
Starting point is 01:23:09 No, no, no, no. Music, this is a thing. This is why... Music to me is different. When I listen to music, I listen to music. It's not ever a background thing. Never.
Starting point is 01:23:18 What about when you're driving? No, because I go for drivers to listen to music. But you're doing more than one thing? Oh. No, no. Driving's different. Driving's a different.
Starting point is 01:23:28 No, driving is not different. driving No, no, it is to me. It is to me because driving a car is not hard. It's not hard, but it's just
Starting point is 01:23:36 like AI. I focus more at SIV most of the time than I do driving because driving in traffic is not fun or interesting.
Starting point is 01:23:48 I got the Clio sideways actually today on the monitor what. What do you mean drifted it? Yeah, it's really easy. If you just go fast enough
Starting point is 01:23:57 the back end just slides. Oh, is it bit icy as well? No. I did have that going round a roundabout in Iceland in a big SUV 4x4. How did you find drive in a big motor? Um, it was a hybrid. Hmm. And it had the torque of an electric vehicle. Nice. What brand car was? It'll be a diesel. It'll be a diesel. It wasn't a diesel. What do you mean it was petrol? Petrol. Petrol hybrid. Well, yeah, that's because it's a hybrid. What car brand?
Starting point is 01:24:30 That's what I just said. I just said it's a hybrid. I didn't hear you. My mind was in something else for it. Well, maybe if you listen to me, then you wouldn't have to interrupt me with stupid comments like what you just said. Oh, sorry. Yeah, what vehicle? What brand?
Starting point is 01:24:45 Yeah. High and I? Was it a Santa Fe? No, Mitsubishi. Was it a P. Eclipse. Mitsubishi Eclipse. but you just go...
Starting point is 01:25:00 No, the thing of the eclipse is, the eclipse before that one was a sports, like, model. It was a sports car. Yeah, that's why people hate the eclipse because they milfified it. They milfified it. I thought you loved that.
Starting point is 01:25:15 No. And it was like brown? It was a brown Mitsubishi eclipse. His base... Yeah. Awful. No, no. Type in eclipse.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Ninety-nine. Yeah. It pissed me off how easy and comfortable it was Yeah, they turned that car into a milfmobile That's bizarre That car rocks Yeah
Starting point is 01:25:42 Well, how do you rate Mitsubishi though Oh, Mishabishi were at a point Like literally one of the best in the world Oh And then they decided to milfify their entire range Who isn't doing that at this point though? Toyota
Starting point is 01:25:58 They do have one though Well they of course they have milford bills But they have like cool cars But Mishabishi literally killed all their cool cars Because they're Mishabishi's famous for wallying Taking a normal car and then bombing it around trees in Scandinavia And then they just turned all of their cars into King's Milt's drive Is that such a bad thing there
Starting point is 01:26:20 Yes Not when Mishabishi Evo's got killed for the Mifs Like I were willing to sacrifice anything for the Mills but EVOs? No. It was quite nice to drive though, I can't lie. Did you get a motor motor though? Not in this country.
Starting point is 01:26:37 I think they're ridiculous. They're stupid. They're 100% totally unnecessary. Yeah. In this country. There are plenty of countries where it's like I wouldn't want to drive not in one. Like. Like Iceland.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Why? In winter. You wouldn't catch me dead in the bloody Salika in Iceland. Jesus Christ. No, but if you're in an Evo, full-wheel drive, 400 brake horse power and you can just power out of anything. Like, you've seen the videos where it's like
Starting point is 01:27:05 a truck is stuck and a Subaru, a baby driver Subaru just pulls a truck out of snow. They're designed for that environment. The Milford Mobile isn't. Wally cars, yes. Then there's the comfort and warmth aspect. No.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Yes. You get warmth from your turbo making mad power. No, that's, an actual thing like turbos make large heat so if you're in boost all the time it's making heat and that is going into the your boost boost yeah like the solution is not movemobiles in snow they're actually worse in snow because normally the front will drive and front will drive that's not what you want in snow but a lot of them are phone will drive
Starting point is 01:27:50 we need is a cleo in snow amazing There's like a certain amount of security when you're in like a big thing. But that's the issues they all use here to buy these big cars is security and how safe you feel. I think the safer you make the person in the car feel the more likely they are to get into crashes because they don't understand the danger of what they're doing. You're driving a two-ton box of steel that can kill families. So by making the driver safe, you make everyone else less safe. because that person does not understand the predicament they can cause.
Starting point is 01:28:32 If you make it so that every car would kill the driver, the roads would be safer. But also a bigger, a bigger, like, like space, right, so the wheels are further apart. Mm-hmm. Better for ice. No. Yes. No. It's an objective truth.
Starting point is 01:28:55 No. Four-wheel drive. No, four-wheel drive... Turbo. Big, big. Big bad. Big is weight that you're putting on a pivot point where if you lose the back end and you've got... No, but if you're just going to...
Starting point is 01:29:08 If you counteract... If you counteract that weight with a bigger space... No. Yes. In snow, you want small four-wheel drive. Subaru's. Evos. On ice.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah. Ice. Yes. Rally cars literally race. at 150 plus 120 mile an hour in the worst conditions possible every modern rally car
Starting point is 01:29:35 is a hatchback they're not big cars they're tiny little cars of full-wheel drive that's what you want they're going 120 miles an hour yeah which means even the slightest thing is instant crash and die yeah most people don't drive like that
Starting point is 01:29:49 on a daily basis no but the small is better when it comes to snow and ice at 120 miles an hour No, at any mile an hour, small is better. But I thought people like these motors because they also can fit all your shopping in the back. No, but this is the thing, they don't actually improve that.
Starting point is 01:30:06 They don't. The idea that SUVs are like so much better. But my dad has one, and you can fit, like, a... Well, you can fit that same stuff in an estate. You'd fit more in an estate. You can fit a lot of the things you can fit on that in a saloon. You don't... The idea that...
Starting point is 01:30:26 the SUVs suddenly mean you've got more space is not true. It's also that you're like high up and in a tank that people like, right? Yeah, which is why there's more accidents on the roads. Yeah, I hate it myself. More, what do you mean more accidents on the roads? No, because it's that you, you will get
Starting point is 01:30:42 this as soon as you get on a bike. Because there's no box saving you. There's no, there's nothing protecting you on a bike. But in a car, you're protected by how much square footage of fucking still and all this moto-moto shit. I generally think cars would be safer if they were more dangerous. Is that like the snake eating its own tail off?
Starting point is 01:31:05 No. Like, I'm going to remove my airbag. Am I going to drive safer? No. Yeah, disproving your whole point. But I'm not... But something you're neglecting to talk about... Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Also is, like, suspension. Yes. The size of the wheels. I would... I would... 100% say that car suspension is far too soft. No, but for driving on ice slash like gravel slash snow, you need bigger wheels and you need...
Starting point is 01:31:39 Not necessarily bigger wheels. Yeah, definitely bigger wheels. For driving on snow, for driving on ice. No, because Wiley cars don't suddenly use bigger wheels than they're driving in snow. The suspension is where you're really going with it. Because when you're using on that terrain, you need softer suspension. Some of these vehicles I saw in Iceland. You're talking like Hyluxes, lifted off the ground with...
Starting point is 01:32:07 There's giant wheels. And one of them was just like a Ford Transit van, but like six feet off the ground with giant wheels put on it. And they just glide along the road like it's nothing. So you're talking like stuff like that. That's in Iceland, by the way. yeah huge you see those pretty regularly yeah huge wheels lifted but that that that isn't but though they're not driving on roads
Starting point is 01:32:35 they're built to go off road where you need the ground clearance and the bigger dies like an iceland as well a lot of the roads to go to like the more scenic places it's not it's not like concrete yeah because it's just gravel dirt and yeah in that case you would need a four like an SUV I wouldn't say an SUV You'd need something lifted Like something higher off the ground You'd need a ground clearance
Starting point is 01:33:00 Yeah But the thing is Like you look at any of these range rovers here They're not of that Because they're supposed to look like 4x4 by 4s, you know We don't have the environmental excuse here Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:10 That's why they're all luxury Um like classism cars Mm-hmm But what I'm saying is in snow Being further up Is probably going to be better for your car being higher off like from the snow yes
Starting point is 01:33:29 because then if you go into deeper snow as well you're not just fucked immediately no you don't like my Nissan in the snow no because it's too low I was imagining driving my car yeah your car's also pretty low it's very low and it would just be like but I think in like you think of
Starting point is 01:33:47 any like Sweden norway the countries that deal with with snow and extreme temperatures they have normal cars there because they work there and you can still drive a normal cars like if you're going off the beating track you'd need way suspension
Starting point is 01:34:01 and you need to have change it because then you're gonna it's better suited for that environment it's like bringing a mammoth back it's not suited for this environment so it's not going to work yeah but I hate SUVs
Starting point is 01:34:16 yeah I think they're they're ridiculously like ugly none of them could look You can't make them look good. No. You can't. By design, they're too big. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:34:26 And we don't need them. The nicest ones are the Mazda ones. Mazda knows how to design things because they're just going for the covenant design. Yeah. Make everything look bubbly and it's fine. That's the true sequel to Halo 3 is Mazda's current design philosophy. If you want something warding and it's in Halo law, Maz. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Mazder. I've got one here. One more here, guys. I want to end on. from a poopy cum man thoughts on there being a battle pass in the new suicide squad game I'm super disappointed in this as it seems we can't have a game just be a game anymore always needs micro transactions
Starting point is 01:35:04 really hope this doesn't ruin Kevin Comroy's last time as Batman don't know if you've seen this Jim but no I haven't on 4chan what looks like a real screenshot of like the main menu has leaked for this suicide squad game and not only does it have like you know the awful card menu design um where everything's just on the screen at the same time for no reason and it's like ugly and looks terrible
Starting point is 01:35:29 there's a battle pass page there's six different currencies like load outs for each all the destiny kind of stuff like it's just like any anticipation i have was like sapped out from seeing that image um it's just like yeah that is the capacity to ruin it yeah why does a game like that need a battle I'm so sick of it.
Starting point is 01:35:52 What is it? What is in it? Who cares? What I guarantee it is is they've been working on a single player game for years and it's rock steady and they've been doing it for years and years and then Warner Bros are like how much
Starting point is 01:36:09 how many copies are we going to sell? We've been pumped money into this for like six years. Must be the biggest gap between any of that game. Yeah, so they'll probably be thinking all right we need to put stuff in cram it in to make it mu-moo money you know
Starting point is 01:36:25 it's like the what was that Arkham Knights is that what it was called Gotham Knights oh yeah from a few months back that's already 50% off
Starting point is 01:36:36 like on sale yeah they they they pooed it it looks bad I don't understand every single developer had the same idea at the same time
Starting point is 01:36:48 to copy destiny yeah but not But copy it in a vacuum. Let's just make Destiny won. I remember that with Anthem, they were like, they specifically made a point of saying, well, we're not looking at the competition. We're not going to...
Starting point is 01:37:06 Which is just like, what? It's a lie. It's a lie. Well, yeah, they stole a bunch of design ideas from the competition, but then didn't learn the lessons the other companies already had. It's just crazy, man. It doesn't make any sense to me. I guess it was just a leak or whatever
Starting point is 01:37:25 so maybe it's not real but it looked pretty official to me man disappointing when's it even meant to come out I assume this year how long can you sit on like a suicide score game I know it's crazy that
Starting point is 01:37:42 um which to me is just not that exciting anyway no to be honest like they've kind of got to put the work in to make it interesting thing to me. Yeah. I would have much preferred
Starting point is 01:37:54 like a green arrow game or something. Batman Beyond is what I wanted but sure, yeah, that would have been cool.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Yeah. No. What's that then, fellas? Another one for the book. It'sini San Sik. my fingers are compared to yours.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Bro, I'm underweight.

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