JAR Media Posdact - the END begins...

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 07:00 Housekeeping 24:43 Jim is Raging over Superman 32:41 The New Dexter Show 37:54 Low Roar and Smoking 41:26 Funnie Dream 47:59 Trainwreck: ...Poop Cruise 51:04 Mid Break 57:03 Grizzly Tales for Gruesome Kids 58:03 RE5 & 6 Remakes 1:02:09 Dog Hairs 1:03:50 Rillas in London 1:05:51 School Subject Struggles 1:16:21 The Cringiest Year 1:18:14 Bob Dylan CBT 1:23:09 Hollow Charts Music 1:38:41 Guitar Teacher JARling #BroCastS2E16

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Don't you be cringy Don't you be cringy I'm just gonna lay one down Thoughts? Hip, hip. Hooray. Hip, hip. Hooray.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Sound like craft work. We are your life. We don't need autotune. We don't need autotune. We don't need no synths. We just got the power of our voices behind our throats. That's how they did it back in the hood. In that German hood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:59 In the German hood. We are so Redbowl We are in the hood Jim is drinking Red Bull I'm drinking Red Bull I've got a cup full of Red Bull and I just can't put it down Cheers to another day of sweating
Starting point is 00:01:18 Another day and no sweatin up It's real Stop complaining about the heat I live in bloody desert I live in hell Yeah the devil right it's in. Stop complaining. You won't experience nothing yet. You haven't even experienced the
Starting point is 00:01:38 mega sun heat yet. Fuck that guy. Fuck the devil. Fuck the devil. F the devil. The devil my op. Mm. Your opposition. The devil my op. If you know, you know. The devil's my opposition. My opponent?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Um, my opposite. my yang to my yin my opponent yeah my op my yeah is that what op means opponent i assumed it was one of those or opposition
Starting point is 00:02:12 hmm somebody tell us or don't or optimal my optimal my optimus my optimus my optimus optimus
Starting point is 00:02:25 optimus has run vibes run energy Optimus Uh Good afternoon morning, evening or night Ladies and gentlemen and robots and decepticons And ops
Starting point is 00:02:41 And optometrons This is episode I think it's episode 17 It's not Of the broadcast Of season two But you know what I was thinking about this Last season was about 50 episodes
Starting point is 00:02:55 We could just do whatever we want This could be the last episode of this season. Okay, season finale. Oh, is this a season finale? I'm getting hyped. Maybe. Should we do a two-part of season finale? Yeah, yeah. So 17, and then 17.1 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's smart. That's smart. Did I say I'm Alex joined by Jim? Or is it Jim joined by Alex? It's Jim. I'm Jim. Joined by Alex. Well, nowadays I go is Mr. Bast. Mr. Bast.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Mr. Bust. Mr. Bast. Mr. Bast. Bust. Mr. Bast. Or others call me hard. Nicknamed Hard. Dyerast man.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Mr. Bast hard. Mr. Bast hard. And I haven't even had the Red Bull. Really? No, I'm the one going, Farr. See, the Red Bulls make me kind of sleepy. Yeah, I have that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:04:05 So bigger, the Red Bull, more sleepy. Because I had that big bucket, and then I had chalky fudge frappe. And now I'm having the Red Bull. I'm, I'm feeling a bit snugly. You want to have a little nap
Starting point is 00:04:20 while I finish this thing? Yeah. If I do, you'll just, just stem. Wee, we, we, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 well uh another dad a dollar was a rabble yeah that wakes me yeah i guess you hyped uh before we get too deep in this episode got a shout of those jar median jar medians patrons who make the show and the audio version possible you get that raw unfiltered mp3 over on patreon ad free baby that's not all get your patron names read in the first or second week of each month It won't be this one, but it might be the one after, or the one after that. Or the one after that. Because this will be going live, I think, on the very last day of the month. Which will be something.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I think you're right. It would be the 30th of June. Absolutely. Bloody absolutely correct. After hours, the supplementary Patreon show, which has been on fire. Like this country. Yeah. Man, what we've been doing lately last week I did, I propagate everything.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Went through all my pups. That was fun It was about 10 minutes old Of going through all my pups Well, most of my pups There are some pups I couldn't be asked To lug up and down the stairs all day long
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's fine It's okay to have some pups that are just for you Thank you You don't need to share all your pups Yeah There's some pups in the background That's not all there There's the Mission Impossible Final Reckoning
Starting point is 00:05:46 As they say Paisley's chance Adventure Time Hater Becomes Lika Meal Devours Bickies and Giel jar divers with loads Argy Cuddle Mars Express, as they say, GTA trailer breakdown, just now I'm the Alpha, the Snyder song, and so much more.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It's getting a list so big that I feel bad just reading them off at a certain point, you know what I'm saying? There's just so many goodies. There's a nice fat playlist building over there, which you should check out, alongside the JAR Media Group Chat. And I'm going to group cat. What the hell happened there? I'd say it's a better deal than the Gears of War III season pass. In my humble opinion. It might be a better deal than all the weapon skins for Geysible 3 pack.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I don't know, that might be overstepping. That wasn't good skins in that. Grab your Tim stickers and the Jaffer Hour's vote for this month. The Invincible Season 3 video is the winner. So that will be going live today as of us recording. So that should be live for you now. There'll be some fresh comments that would be nice to hear from. Right, let's do some housekeeping in there where we round off
Starting point is 00:07:02 these conversations from the previous E-P-I-S-O-D-E. I'll say that one more time, F-U-C-K-Y-O-U. Do I spell that right? I've never been that good with the numbers. Yeah. Meep Top can get us going. He quoted me saying, one thing I'm definitely appreciating the older I get about art in general
Starting point is 00:07:26 is how much I enjoy imperfections in things and how that will often give things a personality that a perfect thing might not. To which he says, I've had the same growing appreciation of imperfections in art as I've gotten older, but it's often been quite difficult for me to reconcile with. As an artist, I struggle with crippling perfectionism, despite the fact that all my favourite art is incredibly messy and human. As a critic, the idea of enjoying and embracing imperfection is, to many,
Starting point is 00:07:50 the antithesis of criticism. Even with YouTube itself, I often find myself idealizing the times when the video is uploaded to this platform weren't so generally well-polished and impersonal. One of my favorite things about the very cast, sorry, this very cast is that despite how much it has changed and grown over the years, it still feels somewhat plucked from that older time, warm, human, and even a bit esoteric. Broadly speaking, especially with the rise of AI, I hope that people start to reconsider what, whether perfect art is even worse, something worth pursuing, given the immense value. that highly imperfect art made by humans has brought into our lives. Pessimistically, though, it seems like us humans, have always been hell-bent on scrubbing our own fingerprints from everything we touch. It's hard to see that changing anytime soon,
Starting point is 00:08:34 but as always, thanks for being you, Jha, it's needed now more than ever Bear Bear. You're very welcome Meetop. Check out his channel. Thank you. Lovely, lovely comment. You? What does esoteric mean? A little bit. Huh?
Starting point is 00:08:50 So someone puts on Jar and they go. Or is it more like Hmm I think it's very much more Huh Right Or sometimes even a Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:05 My voice keeps breaking Apparently that happens more when you're dehydrated Really Maybe you should drink more Okay Whatever happens to you walking around with your little baby bottle You used to always have that Full of ice
Starting point is 00:09:20 Lost it What unless it's attached to me like um if i if i was like had robocop leg and it just went yeah well soon enough my first bob mod yeah the the cup the cup can't put down my icy cup the cup holster you literally never have to put down the cup then well speaking of putting things down a few people were upset by what i said about blade what the vampire uh he's got vampire vibes
Starting point is 00:09:55 he's swedish that's like the least vampirical society what pickles the random tune said can't believe jar aren't blade fans devastating day for white boys with esoteric taste of music
Starting point is 00:10:10 that's a double esoteric why is this why does this number keep coming up esoteric because I remember I was introduced to the word esoteric through dark souls too I thought it stood for elder scrolls
Starting point is 00:10:24 online elder scrolls online tis epic terrific terrific it's terrific that's what it means um and sir eternal said genuinely devastated that Alex doesn't like Blade
Starting point is 00:10:40 and Tutu Lagoon says Leaving Blade is breaking my heart How does everybody know Blade Because he's worked with Charlie and young Lean Young six lean They got young lean up in this He's Swedish too
Starting point is 00:10:54 Young lean is Swedish Yeah I thought young lean is what was in the cup It is Huh I think This is confusing Everywhere I go I just get handed
Starting point is 00:11:05 Lean for free It keeps me Tip top Keeps me young Hmm Certainly keeps me young What about young gravy No he's what
Starting point is 00:11:17 California right he's got a big golden that you buys 100 grand chains for Jim like that one Jim will remember that yeah Jim will
Starting point is 00:11:33 no he won't like blade and shit I don't know I don't know I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm I'll be honest I'm not going to go out my way to listen to a Swedish rapper
Starting point is 00:11:46 thank you to be perfectly frank um yeah yeah like i i i get the um like if you really like a type of music to be inspired by that and to make your own thing but also um i don't i just feel like to be swedish and to rap just feels a little bit like omniumeronic No, oxy- an oxymoron. An oxymoronic, sorry, not old man. They hear what you're saying. They should be, like, singing about Red Bull or something. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Or pretending to be little robots. We are the robots. That's German, but I understand what you're saying. I got fucking Rebel all over my fingers. Uh-oh, you got that Rebel finger again. I feel like Homer after he's had a donut. Hmm. Spencer Lane, 415.
Starting point is 00:12:46 said JAR Media movie has been removed. Jarm Media Escape to Swindon is up still. Oh, hell yeah. So obviously, like, it was immediately taken down. That's emotional. So I'm still quite upset. Why can't we have shit? Why can't we have shit nowadays?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Why can't we just have this? Why can't somebody just make a movie and let it be? Let it be. Let it be. Did you have a red ball on your nipple? Oh no You got that
Starting point is 00:13:18 Lactating fucking rebel That's hardcore James Stanley said Could Alex elaborate On what his personal world is about If he's ready to share it What What's not about my personal world
Starting point is 00:13:37 Oh right I thought they meant like your Like your lived experience Of like planet earth Oh Well In a sense fancy it could be okay i guess yeah it's not there no because it's mine do you think um
Starting point is 00:13:58 something is lost if it's shared no it's more uh Kevin Smith will steal it and make a movie out of it mm you don't want him making a movie of anything unless it's task What about your world? Do you want to share your world? Um, it's too kind of hardcore. It's too like metal. Really? It's like heavy metal magazine? Yeah. It's like um, it's like juggalo weekly. Does it have like babes and metal bikinis flying teradacti? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah. No, I wish. I'm not, I'm not that fucking metal enough. I couldn't come up with shit like that. mine doesn't have dinosaurs but it does have something kind of like dinosaurs oh okay like something that is like an equivalent to our dinosaurs you mean like an ancient kind of like life form that there's evidence of or is it more like there are current big creatures current big creatures yeah muted though yeah oh mutented mutated mutated yeah cool from something from dogs
Starting point is 00:15:16 let's say the cortisept virus goes out oh interesting um a sniggle thug careful there
Starting point is 00:15:26 uh has one that's angry at you belter is gay why's that me because you were like saying how old you love saying things are a belter oh oh shit right what what
Starting point is 00:15:41 how the fuck is it gay it's probably the straightest way you can compliment something it's a super straight yeah it's hyper straight which in a sense is kind of gay so I guess the comments is kind of right damn that was a whole that was a hobbit there and back again true
Starting point is 00:16:00 hmm absolutely Charlie Boardman 2005 says stop making the intro so long no just because you said that I'm going to do it again good afternoon morning evening or night Charlie Bordman, 2005, this is another intro just for you. That's what you get, mother. Um, and Max Gray Sacks says complaining about 30 degrees Celsius is actually so cringe.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Well, I'm going to do the intro again. You come here then. No, come here and fucking stand outside. In the sun. Do you think he's German? Ha, ha, ha. We're the robots. Why do you laugh like that?
Starting point is 00:16:44 I love Germans. They make the best music. Let's not touch on the Germans this episode. Why? It's an enemy we don't need at the moment. We're just stacking up those enemies, left them right. Yeah. The French, the Swedes.
Starting point is 00:17:00 The French are at our throats. Who else in Europe do we want to despise us? Um, I think we should team up with the Spanish. Oh, they hate us, though. Well, they all fucking hate us. Well, I guess we're going to go the other way. Canada? Canada like us.
Starting point is 00:17:21 We own them. They're our own. Canada's making a deal with the EU. They're taking our spot. Yeah, they're crawling back. Surprise, surprise. Look, he's knocking at the door. You bloody Canadians.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Oh, wait, we're not in the EU. Did you just forget? Yeah. I wanted to do for Javhtar I was a 28 years later discussion but seeing as we mentioned it I just want to say a Brexity movie a brexit movie yeah like completely isolated from everyone around it right in small little sub communities that are smaller and smaller and hate each other more and more we can't communicate it is just post-Brexit in the UK
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's a documentary It's not even Post Liz Trust 28 years ago Liz Trust became Prime Minister Yeah Um
Starting point is 00:18:24 Burst Whale has one That I'm pretty excited about I genuinely know a dude RRL called Arcini So the whole segment in last week's episode Was how you say mighty
Starting point is 00:18:37 Do you believe it? No Arcini Arsini No one's called fucking Arsini. This brother Vizini. He spelt it interestingly. It's not how I spell it. He's kind of spelled it Ars N-I-Y.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Ars N-I-Y. Oh no, it is a name. The former Prime Minister of Ukraine. What? Okay, shit. Maybe he's real. Where the fuck did you come up with Arsini? What? Yeah, because I was thinking like... Vizini or like...
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, yeah. You know, like a lot of Italian words and with iny. Yeah, yeah. Tortilini. Yeah. So I was just thinking, Arsini. I guess it's like a name. There's a Ukrainian footballer.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Arsini BataGole. It's actually one of the most common names on planet. Arsini Popov. Popov. He's a Russian actor. So I guess, yeah, they got some crazy names over there, huh? Arsini. Nice.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Well, to be fair, they might say Alex is a crazy. name. Yeah, I suppose. From their perspectives, you know what I'm saying? Well, they'd be dumb and stupid. True. Hmm. Well, I've got some from the Jarm Media Group chat, which might be a little bit sighting.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Would you agree? A bit citing. A thunder slug says, are you boys aware of the growing PS4 emulation space, which is now allowing some people, not me, of course, to play Bloodbourne on PC? What do you guys' thoughts on emulation and its questionable legality in general? well it's illegal that's not questionable yeah we only do what's legal well that's not what i'm just saying like it's we are men of the law that's yes obviously we we are in minecraft no you know that was that was like proven in court to not work oh fuck run a bag run in roblox i'm in roblox
Starting point is 00:20:41 What are we talking about? Someone called Arsini would definitely emulate Bloodborn on PC. Yeah, I mean, in Bloodbourne, I think it is illegal to break the law. No, they phrased it as questionable. It's not questionable. It is illegal. Yeah. So you're not allowed to do it.
Starting point is 00:21:04 On a moral plane. Moral doesn't equal the law. Like, morals don't. I'm going to say. Emile, whatever you want. I don't care. Yeah, morally. Don't legally.
Starting point is 00:21:15 As far as game preservation? Emile. I agree. If they don't want to offer it as a product, this is how we feel about many, many, many, many, many thousands, if not tens of thousands of movies from the past few decades. Well, longer. The past hundred years.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yes. If you don't make it accessible, you know, the more roadblocks you put up, the more people will, do it illegally if you make it easy for me to buy something like i i'm to the point where like it's it's just easier for me less steps fewer steps for me to buy like a game straight off steam at a higher price than it is to go to like cd keys right so i'll buy it on steam you know like just because it's it's like the access is so fucking easy yeah give me charge me 80 pounds
Starting point is 00:22:07 for blood born on steam i'll fucking buy it yeah it would sell probably yeah but then but that price also then is like you're you wouldn't be a moral for pirating it because the price is too high you're pricing people out so you're then motivating people to steal you'd make more money by having a lower price so put it on steam for fucking 30 pounds and people won't emulate it emulate shm emulate yes i think it should go on steam for 40 pounds i think it would sell like fucking crazy yeah i reckon they could even do 50 um no because like ghost of sushima is like 40 50 okay fine so i'd say blood born 40 yeah so genuinely like emulate away yeah no there's there's literally zero moral
Starting point is 00:22:59 ambiguity there in fact you're more moral if you do pirates you're more moral yeah if you emulate for sure uh dylan casey says please for the love of god do it is Andor as good as they say in Slip Plunge, 1997 says I second the Andor video idea. Sorry, Jim hates you. Yep, hate you guys. I'll get round to it. I just need, um... He needs incendii.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I need comfort. We need Arsini. Yeah. To nudge you alone. Yeah. Because I got Arsini on me. Arsini is kind of a Star Warsy name Arsini
Starting point is 00:23:45 Punch at Arsini Yeah In the In the comic between episode six and seven There was a whole Arsini arc I don't know if you've read the Arsini arc Most fans think it's pretty good
Starting point is 00:24:00 It's got some weak points in the second act But it comes back round And makes Arsini genuinely one of the best glops shittos yet Arsini Arsini Run Arsini flies now
Starting point is 00:24:15 Somehow Arsini return Speaking of Darth Jar Jar Jar Jar Jar Jar Jarja Ha ha ha ha said Are we excited for Superman? Yes Br
Starting point is 00:24:31 I'm very excited It was feeling quite far away So I was just kind of ignoring it yeah um and it's as it gets closer i'm remembering how much i loved superman as a kid and it kind of means this movie doesn't need to do that much to get me nostalgia nostalgia baiting rage nostalgia baiting all over social medias the organized attempt of the Snyder subreddit.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah. To counter. Yeah, it's getting like review bombed as well, apparently. Shall I find that to read it? Because I do really associate Superman with you. I remember you had that Superman, like, costume. Well, yeah, I'd wear, I'd wear that more than, like, ordinary clothes. Because I'd usually dress as Batman.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Mm-hmm. I had Superman and Spider-Man. Yeah. I loved the, like... More colourful. The optimistic characters. Like, I love that about Spider-Man. It's why I just love that character.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Um, and Superman is that same thing just times 10 and a bit less, um... Yeah. So I'm hopeful. So far, like, the trailers are genuinely really good. Um... Yeah, they are. The only thing that I'm like, hmm, is the, the, like, other superheroes in the movie? How many characters are in it?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Yeah, I get that. I, I'm sure that. they're not going to be that big of a part, but it's like, why, why are they here? I think the, there might be something to do with, like, governments using them, and they're more, like, arms of the government type thing, where he's more on his own, I don't know, something like that. Yeah. Should be kind of interesting. Yeah, and I, I guess it's like a jump start for this, this DC universe. I don't know if they're going to have, like, some Ukraine-type commentary in there, or
Starting point is 00:26:35 is that there's like a war that something that's going on in there yeah i'd be curious what how that works out um yeah because it from the trailers he's like being questioned as to why he went to a different country and got involved in a conflict and he's trying to say that he was like it's just him as an individual it's not he's an independent he's not representing america yeah it could be really interesting for that stuff and james gun um i know my my my meme years is how much of a hater of like Guardians of the Galaxy and shit I was but Guardians of the Galaxy 2 guardians of the Galaxy 3 um suicide squad was fun James Gunn like he he gets characters he fucking gets it he really gets it that's like the main
Starting point is 00:27:25 reason I have faith is because he weren't direct it directed it like he hasn't let me down yet so he seems to work well within a studio system he actually cares about like the comics and shit and like what characters stand for. I think equally studios trust him now. Yeah. Like they're like okay, have the reins. Please save us.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah. But yeah, I found that post I was saying about from our slash Snydercutt. Stand up and fight for Snyderverse on July 11th. Fight for our Snyderverse on the imposter Superman release day. Here's what we can do to make a difference. Number one. And there's three of these. Post spoilers everywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:03 People are less likely to see or on the movie if it's already spoiled. Number two, leave bad ratings on review sites. We know for sure gun bots will post fake positive reviews so we must let people know the truth and balance the bias out with realistic scores. Number three, reserve tickets online but don't complete the purchase. By selecting and reserving tickets, it gets taken out of the pool for a period of time, which means this has a chance of stopping gun bots from buying tickets. Gun fired the first shot and killed the Snyderverse and here's our chance to take the fire. back to him hashtag restore the Snyder burst and also hashtag if we if we can't have our
Starting point is 00:28:42 Superman no one can you had it though yeah you had it for ages yeah can we talk about like why are people this into Snyder I don't know especially because like James Gunn and Snyder are literally friends they like yeah yeah they're like Snyder's repeatedly been like Yeah, I'm cool with it. Like it looks good. They're like peers. Yeah. Why are people like against it?
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's a weird tribalism thing? I don't know. It's not randian enough. I'm randy. But did they turn like 12 right as like BVS came out and it's like their whole personality? I don't. I remember like I. when I saw a man of steel as a kid like I liked it
Starting point is 00:29:37 when I saw even when I saw BVS I was like that like that fight scene was cool there were like three cool fight scenes in there uh yeah and it's like that's that's all I needed and like I can appreciate like those fucking action scenes rot I give you the one no the warehouse one the way the Batman warehouse one yeah the um the Batman v Superman fight
Starting point is 00:30:02 I think a lot of that is good some of it's good the first like the first two thirds of that fucking rock yeah there's some good stuff it's just a bit
Starting point is 00:30:13 when he's punching him and he's like the kryptonites wearing off and he's like punching him and then he stops flinching and then Batman's face is like whoa
Starting point is 00:30:23 it's like it's just comic book schlock and as like a an alternate universe thing which DC loves to do. Like, I'm fine with the existence of that shit. Why can't everyone see it that way?
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's like different takes on the same character. Yeah, I don't know. When Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man was coming out, you didn't get people like, let's fucking book tickets, but not actually pay for them. People can't go see that Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, because it's, they've just
Starting point is 00:30:54 ripped it away from movies. It's like, who gives a shit? They're suddenly really invested in, like, studio politics. Like, what? so corny he the fuck gives this shit man I guess like I was trying to think like
Starting point is 00:31:06 when in my whole life at my cringiest points have I ever been like that that lame online and I guess the only time I veered onto that was during like Halo 3 Killzone era when I made like Killzone
Starting point is 00:31:19 success as I was kind of cringy like Xbox 1 PS4 era going into that generation right right yeah but like it was never like that serious even though it's most serious it was like
Starting point is 00:31:30 Killzone sucks ass because it does suck as you know yeah history's been on my side with that one I got like rage baited by like PS4 fans commenting on Xbox exclusive stuff and it would like piss me off um it's so funny
Starting point is 00:31:46 and I'd say and like how aggressive on the playground shit would get over like PS3 Xbox 360 and stuff like yeah yeah just like just setting you up for that tribalism for like what's it going to be like yeah in 10 years
Starting point is 00:32:01 he was a goofy man yeah and well going forward it's not going to be like um russia's invaded ukraine it'll be like country sony has like dropped a nuke on country microsoft take up arms ex-bots yeah it's the only way to get people to care yeah the mega corpse through fucking
Starting point is 00:32:25 they threaten your PSN account yeah yeah well there's like the hacker side of it as well yeah another one here from some sort of nondescript patron
Starting point is 00:32:41 I finished Dexter recently and I'd love to hear the funny brothers extensive thoughts on how shit that ending is and how this IP just refuses to call it quits for some reason so this new season is coming out like in a mere weeks as a recording this and I'm actually hyped
Starting point is 00:32:58 because it's gone full circle for me we're like okay we're on the third ending of dexter now this is like loop back around to being hilarious like this is like sore type shit but like right it's getting so convoluted and so stupid that i'm kind of down for like just dexter existing until michael seawall dies now you know like just do it forever yeah who cares at this point like genuinely yeah it's always totally been a weird one because it's always been kind of tongue and cheek yeah it's like it's like it's basically a comedy yeah like this first seasons but it's it's also like good at first and kind of like the tone is just on that razor's edge like this is goofy but it's not too silly yeah they're like
Starting point is 00:33:43 moments that are meant to be serious like hit home yeah like they work but also it's the the concept is just stupid yeah um it's super charming but i've i've never watched any dexter content post like the ending um so like i don't know the prequel show was quite fun yeah so i hear all these like cartoon interpretations all these characters that like still wear the exact same outfits yeah yeah yeah decades before yeah yeah yeah yeah so i'm cartoonish about it i'm there for sure i feel like um a lot of tv was that way and they just don't work they don't translate anymore um um because it's like if you were to try and bring house back now hmm i'm surprised they haven't done that with how like
Starting point is 00:34:35 uh yeah house has joined the like breaking bad type meme speak yeah for sure but like house is way worse like it's a way way way fucking worse show than breaking back like it's crazy tv back then was fucking insane desperate housewives crazy the stuff they were They're bringing that back. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, but I think it's like a prequel show. Oh, okay. Or something. Right. So they're doing all of it. Like, we just got a nostalgia, everything and never make anything new ever again. So. But, yeah, it just highlights how much has changed in media landscape.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah, because we, speaking of the Snyder stuff, that's kind of what defined the 2010s was like, let's go grim dark. we're following the dark night we've got to have serious tron now we've got to have serious fucking superheroes yeah everything's got to be dark and serious and now everything's kind of like fortnighty everything's like in universes
Starting point is 00:35:43 with other things yeah expanded universes is the new one which I feel like is kind of a trend that started on like cartoon network and shit like the Jimmy Neutron well it used to be like
Starting point is 00:35:58 I remember it used to be like a little Easter egg back in the day that like Quentin Tarantino would set his films in the same universe and they'd have the same like beer cans and shit right yeah you know but it wasn't like a whole this is built this builds into this yeah yeah bloody research like I I respect it for Marvel like it makes sense like that's that is how the comic books functioned yeah uh to do it with everything is like what yeah Kingsman the monsters from like the old like Frankenstein oh yeah like the mummy and shit like that
Starting point is 00:36:35 that was never designed to like feed into this you what the fuck are you doing it's like it works with Marvel because that was the whole like idea everyone was crossover events they want to see the crossover big funny yeah um even they can't do it anymore so
Starting point is 00:36:51 clearly well I don't know I'm gonna be fucking whooping and hollering when when uh Robert Danny Doom shows up No, when Daredevil shows up with Spider-Man I'll fucking flip Okay Everyone's got their one
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah Which would be your one Uh Hmm Who's left Who is left Rock a Raccoon and Daredevil though That would make me actually
Starting point is 00:37:19 No I meant Rock a Raccoon and Deadpool Oh no dude That would get me walking out of theatres I guess you never saw the third one, did you? No, I still haven't. I might, oh, maybe I'll do that tonight. I might. No, hold it off until I do the Super Hero movies of that year one.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can watch it with me because I, okay. Yeah. Only if we can take copious amounts of booze with us. Yeah. This is, might be a first actually on the cover. I want to read a question we did last episode again because now you can actually answer it.
Starting point is 00:38:01 How about that? What? From Butterbean 1, 2, 3. Good morning, boys, or something. Question for Jim, since smoking was mentioned, thoughts on the song, Field of Dreams by Low Rawls from Low Rawls last album. I asked this because it's song about smoking addiction,
Starting point is 00:38:15 something that has always played Ryan and was most likely partially responsible for his death of pneumonia. I wonder how Jim interprets the song. As I know, it's definitely one of the better songs on the album, even if I'm a non-smoker and don't immediately resonate with the theme. So we mentioned this last episode,
Starting point is 00:38:29 but you hadn't really connected. Yeah, I knew the song, but I didn't know, I didn't know the meaning because it had always perplexed me. So then when I was walking home after recording, I listened to this song with that context. And it was like, wow, what a brilliant way. I find low raw is perfect at capturing, like, a feeling.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Yeah, atmospheric. Yeah. And he so totally, like, encapsulates the, like, mind games you play with yourself. Right. Yeah, just a really, really well-written song. And where initially I thought the lyrics were, like, weird and out of character. for low raw with that added context
Starting point is 00:39:28 it's like okay yeah certified classic but to be perfectly honest this album has just grown on me all year I think the whole album is incredibly good
Starting point is 00:39:38 obviously it's not gonna like get you terned or whatever do people still say terned I'd forgotten about that yeah is that a thing is there low roar
Starting point is 00:39:52 and death surrounding too? I don't know. Babies on the beach? I feel like there should be an ode at least in that to him. Yeah, for sure. There's got to be. I'm pretty sure Ryan is like one of the guys in the first game. Really? That's cool. He's like with Jimmy Kimmel or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Conan and Brian. Yeah, he's bunkered up with Conan. Isn't Jeff Keely one of them? Yeah, he's like the one up the mountain on his own, I think. Yeah, there's all sorts of fucking silly little guys in there. I'm so weird. Yeah, the directors, though, it makes sense to me. But when it's like Jeff Keely, it's like...
Starting point is 00:40:32 Well, they're like best buds, Jeff Keely and... Yeah, but it's like... That's so fucking weird. Conflict of interest. Yeah, massively. Yeah. When it's like directors, it's like a full circle thing where it's like he's massively inspired by all these directors and having them as cameos.
Starting point is 00:40:48 It's like not their voices or something? No. I think a couple... Like it's Jeff Keeley's voice, I'm pretty sure. But he's not in like cutscenes and that. He's more like an Easter egg. Right. You deliver some stuff to a bunker and then he'll hit a hologram of him will like walk out and be like, oh thanks Sam.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I'm going to give you game of a year for this. Yeah. But yeah, awesome album. Listen to it Nice, well I got something fucked Oh Well, it's not fucked
Starting point is 00:41:30 Have you ever had A dream So funny That you wake up and you just start scream laughing I had that for the first time The other day Yeah It was like
Starting point is 00:41:47 Because when I was in the dream It didn't seem that weird But then I woke up and was like What the fuck? It was like I was at a train station Like a really old timey Like a picture of really old train station
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah From like the 1800s or something And all these old ass trains are going by Like Red Dead 2 vibe Kind of yeah But I'm like waiting for ages It feels like forever for my train
Starting point is 00:42:22 and while I'm waiting in whatever dream universe this was I guess instead of having cars everyone had like imagine a one carriage train like that was right yeah yeah like these one carriage trains would be showing up
Starting point is 00:42:39 and one of them was like imagine a carriage of a train but like in the middle of it was like a giant like plastic motorbike with like an eight year old on it
Starting point is 00:42:56 and it like pulls into the station no one gets on and then it just like goes off and everyone's just like acting like it's the most normal thing yeah yeah all these like
Starting point is 00:43:12 absurd single carriage train things were just showing up and it was like you know dreams just feel like they're going on forever yeah and it was like when is mine gonna show up and yeah i guess the eight-year-old on the motorbike train was just like the funniest shit to me yeah it's just like the bizarre imagery yeah the motor like why would you have like like it wasn't like a real motorbike on it wasn't like actually controlling the train in any way it was like you know like in supermarkets where they've got like the little plastic
Starting point is 00:43:48 right it was like one of those yeah yeah yeah but like and he was by himself so that was pretty fire dreams are fucking crazy dude we do like a dream dream section every now and again yeah but i i feel like um dreams are like the source of so much mythology and shit because it's like Why can my brain conjure this shit? Like... Yeah, it's just processing something. I think it's processing nothing. Like, it's just, it's like entertainment.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Like, it's got to be why we're into films and stuff, because it's like, oh, I'm imagining this story or whatever. It's like what your brain just likes to do. And it's like total, like, gloves off, just brain going. And then you get crazy shit like that. and in the moment it feels so normal and really.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It feels like you know emptying the recycle bin like there's all this like random shit in the recycling bin like there's a picture of like a polar bear and then there's like the scariest thing you've ever seen
Starting point is 00:44:59 and like a song that's horrible and it's all like smashed together yeah yeah gone yeah yeah no I um I had to get up for work on on Wednesday
Starting point is 00:45:11 um and I woke up slightly early so I had like 20 minutes more to just like put my head down and I put my head down and fell asleep like immediately and I was dreaming for like days years I was dreaming for days in my head and it was like this whole narrative like these these people I've never met my brain like conjured these characters and we were all just like on holiday like just chilling and it was days go by and then my alarm goes off and I wake up and it's been 20 minutes and it's it's insane like mine are often like remixes of things that did happen but people that weren't there are there now so like and you're the only one who knows that something's up yeah I feel like it it feeds into like philosophy because it's like why so I still don't think we
Starting point is 00:46:09 know why but if if our brains can can make us feel like we We exist in a, like a universe that just can't be. And in the moment, we think it's real. It feels real. It feels real. Like, who's to say, we're not in the dream of another thing? Mm-hmm. You know?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah. Like a rat's dream. We're in a rat's dream right now. Yeah. We're in a caged rat's dream. And it's going. Yeah. It's the Coke rat.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It's the Coke rat. It's the Coke rat that's given nothing. better to do just dreaming that coke rat ain't dreaming he ain't you never sleeping yeah it's his hallucination just as he's dying from but what was so messed up about that funny dream was like oh man I hope
Starting point is 00:46:58 I have another funny dream tonight yeah I had the worst nightmare yeah it was like horrible I I just the other day had like a night terror and woke up screaming like in a movie yeah and I I have like maybe three or four
Starting point is 00:47:16 night terrors a year about spiders every time. I only have night terrors about spiders. Wow. So I'm just, I'm straight up fucking Ron Weasley. Is the spiders? Harry! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:31 You tell those spiders, Ron. I've been told that I like laugh in my sleep. Creepier. Yeah, I just do the creepiest shit in my sleep. Ha ha ha ha ha ha You're like Walaigi Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:48 So God knows what's happening You're bagging America Yeah One more thing before mid break then It's this weird Like documentary series on Netflix called train wreck And there was one that caught my eye
Starting point is 00:48:05 That came out yesterday I think It's called train wreck poop deck It's not Okay About a cruise in a America, the lost power when it was halfway to Mexico, across the Gulf of Mexico. Sorry, I mean, Gulf of America, of course. Goof of America, yeah. Get it right.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And, uh, on like the third or fourth day of the cruise, yeah, the, the power went down. And the toilet stopped being able to flush. So it was like 3,000 people all pissing and shitting. Oh, man. To these toilets that can't flush. and when the tugboats appeared to like come and grab them and tow them back to America it tilted the ships and all the piss and shit was like uh all over the place um i wouldn't recommend watching it it was a pretty bad documentary actually
Starting point is 00:48:59 funny story though yeah poo and way it was just like all these americans going like and then there was poo on the floor That sounds like a good documentary Yeah, no, it sounds more Awesome from my description than actually watching it Because they're like Like it sucks that that happened to them But they're making out that like
Starting point is 00:49:21 They're in danger or something When it was like, like they're on the Titanic or whatever Yeah, yeah When it was like It was just a bit of poop Come on And there's like a whole section where they're like We didn't know what to do
Starting point is 00:49:31 So we opened the bars And then everyone got drunk And started peeing everywhere And throwing poop It sounds awesome They just had a great time they just had like a ditty party yeah
Starting point is 00:49:43 then we got the baby oil out and started splishing and splashing did yeah so or something yeah fuck that anything you wanted to bring up um
Starting point is 00:49:55 just the poop and pee and just poop pee farts yeah something like that um something esoteric like burps a burp
Starting point is 00:50:07 what is it can you Hey, Siri, what does esoteric mean? It's something kind of like, huh? Intended for unlikely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized non-a-chore interest. Oh. So that's J.R. then.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah. We're an esoteric. Guess we'll see you after these bastarding managers, you bastards. We need to do more Joe Rogan shit like that. He's the funniest comedian. One of a dying few. Whoa, one of the last 250 assassins. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Dobby demands that you get a Tim sticker from the J, a media shoppy, W. Oppie. Please, please. Yeah. Fine. Fine. I'll do it myself. Do your best thannet voice. Fine, I'll do it myself. Do you want to hear mine?
Starting point is 00:51:23 Fine. I'll do it myself. I'm Alex. Fine. Fine. I'll do it myself. Oh, Thanos is theme. I don't even know quite who you are, boy, said Thanos to Spider-Boy. I don't even know who you bloody is, I'm Alex. What sort of man, Spider, do you think you are, Spider?
Starting point is 00:51:54 I'm kind of Spider-Man. I'm Alex getting bitten by the spider. Do you know what I want to fucking see? I want to see Wonder Woman versus Thanos. When you put it like that? I okay no hear me out I'm listening listen listen
Starting point is 00:52:15 Captain America right tightens the shield on his bleeding arm right right yeah and it spurts out all over his face all on his face and shit and then he hears on your left
Starting point is 00:52:32 a bit all the things open right to fight Thanos and then he says Avengers And then behind him, like, next to him, steps forward, Wonder Woman, Gal Godot. Yes. Awful delivery. Asamba. And then, how fucking sick would that be?
Starting point is 00:52:55 It would be cool. They could have gone so hard with that, like a portal opens and then... Um, bum, um, dun, dun, don't, don't, don't. Yo, he's running ahead of everyone. You know where Captain American. and black pants were running yeah he's in between them yeah yeah fuck that would have been sick
Starting point is 00:53:17 nah and then for me my like get up hooping and hollering moment would be one of those portals open johnny thunder comes through oh fuck yeah johnny thunder yes another one galador no galador's here dude it's just infinite possibilities yeah no like x wings is that Snyder's Superman
Starting point is 00:53:51 Snyder's Superman and like every Superman Neil fistburn yeah yeah uniting everyone yeah oh man Dobby and Harry Botts are going to do it oh fuck The T-Rex from Jurassic Park The TARDIS All the doctors come out Every fucking doctor AI, all the dead ones Man
Starting point is 00:54:22 It's just infinite possibilities Wallace and Gromit Like the train Oh my God You know they're making They're making a Lego Wallace and Gromit set confirmed So depending on how they do
Starting point is 00:54:37 Wallace's scary face I might have to I feel like a grommet mini fig would go kind of hard I think they're going to do the you know the motorbike with the little passenger pod oh fuck yeah they need to do the train though
Starting point is 00:54:52 I don't think it'll be mini fig scale I think it's going to be big yeah fuck how could they do the train and that's going to have to be your mock mock yeah in the Lego community
Starting point is 00:55:09 when you make your own stuff your own creations yeah no do you know what I think is kind of fresh what having like a raised little train set like around the top of your oh those are cool
Starting point is 00:55:27 yeah that's like Danny yeah yeah that's the dream if you get that if you get to that point as a as like a a middle or working class man like that's the heights that that is your ceiling in this country
Starting point is 00:55:46 a literal train set on the ceiling yeah the ceiling train set yeah yeah yeah I hear you I guess welcome to the second hour for the car so we answer questions from the journal media subreddit question thread heard it over there and not our slash fnaf and leave questions
Starting point is 00:56:01 why if you did get this far comment gently now you just want to kiss the ground just a little peck a smooch like you're kissing your sister um classic classic line so they were so wild for that i still actually can't believe it yeah like the timing of it yeah that yeah the first time like we watched that scene was one of the hardest times i've ever laughed at the movie it's why it's why for me madagascar too is the goat because of that one like three minute sequence it's genuinely so funny it's so funny like the best action scene
Starting point is 00:56:48 the best action comedy yes of all time moment yeah the rest of the film sucks and the the entirety of the rest of both other films suck say like it's goated madagascar two's Gated. OK training 9357 can start off here. Bear Bear. Have you ever
Starting point is 00:57:08 heard of the British 2000s show Grizzly Tales for gruesome kids? It was one of the most horrifying shows I've ever
Starting point is 00:57:14 seen in my childhood. Of course I remember this. Stop motion. Stop motion intro and then like really cheap
Starting point is 00:57:20 2D animation Yeah, that's right. The actual shows or at least some There was a lot of like freaky kids content like goose bumps. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And a lot of it was like designed to be warnings for kids yeah sort of an a sop's fable type thing yeah but so disturbing that like it never would seep through in that way no stop motion could be so fucking freaky yeah and he like it's the kid
Starting point is 00:57:48 he goes to like the cinema or whatever and his popcorn like turns into worms yeah it's just fucking awful what did he do wrong he just wanted some popcorn dude Blan scape says Jim Having finally come out as a fully-fledged Resident Evil Guna
Starting point is 00:58:07 Would you now support an RE5 remake? Along with RE6, 5 in my opinion, would probably be the trickiest entry to cover owing it to being very much grounded in that 2007-13 era of grey-brown military shooters. This is not to mention the game's more culturally questionable aspects e.g. the native village segment. We were talking about this the other week, but I didn't know about that.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Yeah, that needs changing. That needs hardcore adjustment. Because that was a big controversy back in the day with Resident Evil Fight. What happens in that segment? So it's based in Africa, right? I knew that, yeah. Everybody looked at the article that was like, I think this game's kind of racist and everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:58:53 it's based in Africa. So of course it's going to be like majority black zombies. And like, okay, yeah, but then you get to that point in the game where it's like... I don't think I've ever seen like even footage from it. It's like the... I don't know actually how to describe it without using, like, racist terminology. Because it's like so, it's so caricature, like tribal African caricature. I'll put, how about the commenters said, the native village?
Starting point is 00:59:30 You know, like, um, like Crash Bandicoot. Oh, really? The masks and stuff, like that type of, uh... Right, okay. Yeah, so there's like, uh, zombies with, like, the masks and stuff. Yeah, very, very questionable. Um, and I, I don't know if it, it, I don't think it, comes from a place of racism but that depiction is like kind of inherently racist uh but yeah
Starting point is 01:00:05 i want a remake of five and uh like i feel like what they should do is truly remake five and six like change the stories yeah yeah totally change the stories totally change what happens like i don't think anyone considers them sacred like two or four so no and like you can still offer the originals like you can still buy them and play them and shit um yeah true i've i've had resident evil five on my wish list for ages because i kind of want to play through it like the game feels good yeah yeah the gameplay felt fine it was just like i'd say it feels better than fine like it feels crispy and um like crispy but then like the feedback is really tactile and nice um i hear you and it's tense as well they're having to stop to shoot thing
Starting point is 01:00:53 really fun um but yeah I'm down and fuck it make it co-op no
Starting point is 01:01:02 yeah fuck it no make it in the style of two or four more four than two like a bit more action focused yeah um
Starting point is 01:01:13 but you can't be having these big boss fights with a scorpion and shit there's a big boss fight with like a giant ogre in four and it works it's like a big boss fight with a giant monster
Starting point is 01:01:23 monster in two. That's cool though. Yeah. The crocodile. Like, no, I'm, I'm thinking of like the G virus or whatever. The, like, the last boss of two. Oh, the very last boss. Yeah, he's like a giant. He's like a giant monster. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Stop it. That's my opinion. Um, um, and six, I don't even I haven't been able to play more than like two hours or six. That game is trash. Trash, trash. It's fucking awful. The BJ horse. No, a giraffe, right? Just a shite fucking game.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Last and 16th says, Question for Alex. How do you successfully pick up all of the dog hairs in your house? I always find those pesky furs all over my house. Um, I got an answer for you. Uh, you don't. Because it's impossible. you have a golden retriever.
Starting point is 01:02:25 It's literally impossible. It's impossible if you have, like, most dogs. Yeah, unless they're, uh, they don't drop, drop, and they're more like sheep, sheep. What? You know what I'm saying? Sheep, sheep. Yeah. Beah!
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yes. I love sheep. I love when they do, like, a... Buh. It's like, what are you actually communicating? Yeah, I love. Like you'll just be walking past some sheep And they're just looking at you chewing
Starting point is 01:02:56 And also if you look closely when they chew You can see them gulp And the food goes down The grass goes down But then you keep watching And it goes back up And then they start chewing again And they just keep doing that
Starting point is 01:03:11 And then they're like pulp Yeah And then they finally swallow And it's gone And they'll look at you and go Beh And then shit themselves Yeah they're covered in shit
Starting point is 01:03:21 until they're sheared one awesome animal yeah they're good they're just like total geeks yeah I like them you've got funny little faces I never want to go near them because they carry ticks
Starting point is 01:03:34 they've got ticks on them so yeah just give up you got to just get used to just pretend you're in the the old west and it's like the tumbleweeds but it's piles of dog hair
Starting point is 01:03:43 whew b'bba bhae bhae To Dev the hero says hello You talk about so much of a music this week Will you be going to see the Rilas in the London this year Bear Bear Bear Bear
Starting point is 01:04:02 Just insane Insanely phrased The Rellers But I didn't realize that gorillas were doing I didn't get nice for days Each one It was a demon days Plastic Beach and mystery
Starting point is 01:04:17 tall date whatever that means maybe they're trying out something new for that last one I guess I saw the notification but I just figured it was like another humans tall
Starting point is 01:04:28 I don't know what I was thinking because if I'd caught the the fact that it was themed that way I probably would have and we had this conversation the other week which we'd want to see more the demon days or plastic beach and I would have gone for demon days
Starting point is 01:04:45 probably I would go I would go for Demon Days, but if Demon Days wasn't available, I'd be totally down for Plaster Beach. Yeah. Plastic Beach is fire. Yeah. I agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I had no idea. But also, like, shit's too expensive anyway. It's very expensive. Can't have shit. And I haven't seen them twice. Yeah. And I've got to save for Maricott. And how are you going to beat that Humans tour?
Starting point is 01:05:13 Anyway. Yeah, humans. Um, tough act follow. Sex, murder and party. He's seen that live just broke my brain, you know. Yeah. To be fair, live, it wasn't so bad. They had to basically design a new song.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Yeah. From the ground up to make it presentable. What they were thinking, I don't know, man. Sex murder did he party? If only he's... fucking featured on that song. Gorilla's feet diddy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Mumbo Bumbo says which subject did you struggle the most with at school? French. French was tough. We went to a language college, so you had to do a language. Yeah. I did French. But I just figured out a way to cheat.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I just wrote the answers on a piece of paper and put it, like, in my open back page and just to the right and just copy it could you do that like in the exam in the hall I didn't think you were allowed to buy um I don't remember
Starting point is 01:06:25 having to go into the hall for a French oh okay I did I really like listening exams and shit in the hall I remember doing a speaking exam the thing is I just didn't care because I was like well I guess I will never go to France like fuck that place
Starting point is 01:06:40 how wrong I was um yeah what about if you're going to Africa, you might need it. Well, I'll just go to one of the ones, one of the places we colonize. Um,
Starting point is 01:06:55 what did I struggle with? Religious studies? Really? I, I've, I fucking sailed through that. Well, I did okay on the coursework, because I literally, and I'm not exaggerating copy and pasted Wikipedia pages. I got a B. That's such fucking bullshit, because I actually put,
Starting point is 01:07:12 I, like, went for it. I mean, I didn't, like, that much of it. I tried when I was like doing the exams and stuff and I got a C and that was off the dome so
Starting point is 01:07:23 so in a way like I did better than you say that's such fucking bullshit yeah I remember fair like smart smart I guess we they weren't enough
Starting point is 01:07:38 other people doing that for them to catch it for somehow you invented it you came up with that strategy like did he see that crazy video going around
Starting point is 01:07:49 of that dude who'd graduated and at his graduation he turns his laptop around and he's just flexing chat GPT and he's like yeah fuck sake yeah
Starting point is 01:07:59 um this is what happens when like you have education for the sake of like getting a certificate
Starting point is 01:08:11 yeah it's like not actually about getting educated yeah i don't know how much you're retaining but um i also struggled with like physics really yeah see i found physics fucking piss not true i did once it would get like theoretical to me then i'm like i can look at a bug you know yeah i can look at a plant biology i struggle with because it's so fucking boring why it's awesome oh make sure you remember the difference between
Starting point is 01:08:45 Floem and Xylem. Zylam brings water through the plant. Flowem brings food and nutrients. It's like... See you... Look. Well, yeah, but that's just because I've remembered it. It's fucking boring to just sit...
Starting point is 01:08:58 No, it's fire. And the teacher's just like, here's a bunch of facts. It's like, just put on V-source, dude. It's boring as hell. There's no, like, working anything out. With biology. With chemistry, you get the, like...
Starting point is 01:09:15 the chemical equations which are fucking hard I struggled with like chemical equations yeah I think they're tricky and in physics like I love the mechanics at a level I got like a B in the mechanics exam everything else I did fucking shit because like wave particle duality what the fuck is what the fuck are you talking about the like double slit experiment where like photons or electrons or something are being fired through like a double slit and then sometimes it comes out one side sometimes it comes out another and then if like you're looking at it it hits the middle or something it's it's like this quantum shit where it when you're looking at a thing
Starting point is 01:09:55 it behaves differently because you're looking at it whereas if you're not looking at it it behaves yeah yeah i've heard about that i don't understand but it's something it's crazy um and like i don't know i i was like into attack on titan at the time so that was my most like important thing. So you know when someone's like talking to you about something and you lose track? Yeah. Oh, definitely. But in a classroom setting, you have so much freedom to like check out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Because especially at the school we went to when it was like 90 kids in like a five square meter room. Yeah. So when the teachers at the front like lecturing, you can just check. out and just like imagine a fight scene from attack on time yeah that's when i do my doodling yeah yeah yeah i just totally tracked out and just like i'm lost whatever and like i i was like quite socially anxious as well so i wouldn't put my hand up and be like what the fuck are you talking about yeah you know some kids would but you're trying again in english yeah yeah yeah my thing was like if i wasn't naturally gifted in it then i just wouldn't give yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:11:13 so i could just like coast with like english and stuff like that well yeah i i coasted through like the gccc's and then a level where it actually required effort i was like that oh yeah what have i got myself into yeah yeah and like i didn't give a shit about anything either at the time yeah yeah i did like a level maths like a whole year crazy um like physics is hard but a level maths it's at least physics the the crazy theoretical stuff like has a basis in like a physical thing right like maths becomes just so it's just like these algorithms and like numbers and shit yeah i don't remember a fucking thing yeah outside of like the cartoon like it was it was distracting to the point where this teacher i had was the most cartoonish man i think to this day i I've ever seen he was like straight out of like the Simpsons or something he was like six foot four and was like the most stoic deadpan like flat delivery but so fucking funny was this at fart and purlish yeah right it was it was just bizarre like to a point where like I could
Starting point is 01:12:35 hardly pay attention because it was like this is brilliant right like this man exists watching his bit yeah yeah but like he wasn't trying to be funny but that made it funnier yeah you know yeah yeah yeah and then I had the inverse problem because I did maths and history um where like my my history teacher teacher is someone who like had just finished uni and was like so attractive like no one could bear attention yeah yeah it was like well this is fucked. See, my, one of my chemistry teachers was a bit like that.
Starting point is 01:13:18 And the, the other one was like, was dating my friend's mum at the time. So it was like, oh, shit. Oh, this is, yeah, it was quite. He was partially why I, I didn't learn any chemistry. Yeah. Because his style was just like, weird. He valued being cool above, like, anything else, I think. yeah um and yeah that whole dynamic of like i'd been to my friend's house where like he had just
Starting point is 01:13:47 been yeah and like at one point we found um me me and my friend were in his mum's room and we found like a sex dice where it's like you roll the dice and it's like suck and it'll be like kiss or like yeah and he was like living there and it was like what the fuck and then years later I hit like 17 and I'm I go into this classroom and it's him
Starting point is 01:14:19 and I'm like oh fuck there's so much baggage going into that cause yeah super fucking weird dynamic yeah very uncomfortable um hmm well
Starting point is 01:14:37 Well, yeah, I guess in hindsight, I wish I'd just done physics out of all the sciences. I think if I'd have done physics, like physics, music, and, like, keep ICT, because that was just... Playtime. Yeah, it was playtime. I'd, like, turn up late to school, like, halfway through an ICT lesson, and then just sit down and, like, read articles about Dong Noguian. Fucking flappy bird.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I want to hurt. I want to hurt. Yeah. Yeah. I think we had the same ICT teacher who like, he was so laissez-faire. He was just like building his R2D2PC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was living it up. But that encouraged me to actually do well, though. To some reason. Yeah, like, the best I did was in IT. Yeah. But like, none of my coursework got checked, so it was fine. They'd roll the sex die and ran the person to be chasing. seven-day coursework yet. But that is how it works.
Starting point is 01:15:41 But, like, it was also so easy. Whereas, like, you could just crank it out in, like, two days of actual work. So I guess, like, uh, Michael Gove's ICT syllabus would have been, like, save a word document with an underlined title. Yeah. That's like the whole coursework. Yeah. Make a PowerPoint with it.
Starting point is 01:16:07 least three slides. Yeah. Okay. Maybe an animated, like, title coming in. Yeah. Brough. Um, Big Lad Luke says,
Starting point is 01:16:22 what do you guys think is the cringiest year? I've got an answer. I'm curious if you have the same answer. The cringiest year? Yeah. Like of all time. Yeah. because I think
Starting point is 01:16:40 I think it's hard to beat 2020 how do you beat that I don't know just find out when the black IPs were most popular that's the cringest year Madagascar too
Starting point is 01:16:53 yeah true no he slapped in that that's his best song Alex has lost to whatever it's good yeah that's a chin I've watched that movie
Starting point is 01:17:06 that movie just for the plane scene and Alex dancing mm-hmm you know when he proves how much of a man he is by being gay true strangely progressive yeah yeah yeah yeah um hell yeah no
Starting point is 01:17:24 2020 what happened in 2020 COVID COVID no wasn't cringy that was just like no no I think more how it truly marks I guess a point point for me where just no one can agree on anything like yeah information realities just useless yeah data is now defunct like it doesn't matter
Starting point is 01:17:48 anymore it's like yeah it's a vibes based whatever it's like whatever you feel is yeah if someone with a high quality enough camera says something then it's real yeah like that's they say it with enough conviction yeah yeah yeah yeah you even if they just say they're like some sort of professional then yeah i thought this was quite an interesting one from uh rank the dank bear bear alexander and james's bob dillon jarling here you've recently read and rated the quotes of philosophers nietzsche and kama camus but how about some lyrics and quotes from the greatest songwriter of the 20th century I've assembled some lyrics from the various Bob Dylan song spanning across his lifelong career.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Some of these will be familiar to you already, I'm sure. Please take pleasure in rating them, if you will. Okay, so are we doing CBT? CBT, yeah. Cpt. C-B-T. What was it, cringed-based? Tough.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Tough, yeah. Yeah, okay. He's not busy being born, is busy dying. he not busy being born is busy dying really again he not busy being born is busy dying don't me to do my Bob Dylan be that busy babe
Starting point is 01:19:19 when you do the voice it's based otherwise cringe you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows that's tough that's tough god that's crazy tough the first one I feel like you need more context from the song
Starting point is 01:19:37 so it's cringe that one was tough all the truth in the world adds up to one big lie oh fuck tough
Starting point is 01:19:50 dude um let's Mona Lisa must have had the highway blues you can tell by the way she smiles I go based with that one it's not cringe
Starting point is 01:20:04 but it's not tough either I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now. Based. Yeah. Behind every beautiful thing, there's been some kind of pain. That's tough. Yeah, that is tough.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Dude, Bob Dylan's the modern... He's the best one yet. He's the best philosopher yet. God damn. And there's more. No one is free. Even the birds are chained to the sky. Wow.
Starting point is 01:20:35 That's tough. how's he done this this is actually crazy steal a little and they throw you in jail steal a lot and they make you king oh let's go
Starting point is 01:20:48 yeah tough that might be the toughest that's incredible um the sun is not yellow it's chicken the sun is chicken the sun is not yellow it's chicken
Starting point is 01:21:08 okay uh i'll go based it's not cringe it's definitely not cringe to live outside the law you must be honest based oh no tough I'd say that's tough
Starting point is 01:21:26 that's tough yeah businessmen they drink my wine, plowman, dig my earth. None of them along the line know what any of it is worth. Businessmen, they drink my wine. Plowman dig my earth. None of them along the line know what any of it is worth. Baste. Baste. That's based.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Three more. Money doesn't talk. It swears. Mm, cringe Yeah It's a bit cringy Maybe in context Yeah, I, yeah Money doesn't talk
Starting point is 01:22:11 It's swell Uh Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop Tah That's tough That's from Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle 1990
Starting point is 01:22:25 Last one You don't need no wax job. You're smooth enough for me. Read again. You don't need no wax job. You're smooth enough for me. Cringe. Yeah. Some of those are wild. Yeah, he's the toughest yet. Slow train coming. I'll be round.
Starting point is 01:22:57 under band I love him right let's do a couple more here so you round down this episode or something heat wave MF says just been diagnosed as infertile
Starting point is 01:23:13 meaning my nuts hollow and empty devoid of life my question to you is what do you think makes popular charts music so hollow empty and devoid of like like my nuts is it lack of inspiration the use of common chord progressions and melodies, overproduction,
Starting point is 01:23:31 or is there a soul-like essence within certain pieces of music that allow them, Tom evoke such strong emotion, despite the abstraction and lack of tangibility, or am I just a contrarian that won't engage in good faith with music just because it's popular? Especially curious as to what the music theorist, Jim, thinks of this. The music theorist, piss off. It's vibes It's vibes based
Starting point is 01:23:57 It's Blaine You can feel it You can feel it when I don't want my Goochie's own I don't want no Louie if we're talking Was that Bob Dylan? Yeah
Starting point is 01:24:14 Tough tough Yeah we got to do a Megan Trainick Yeah She'll be the toughest of them all yeah when you hear some shit like that and it's got the like the bouncy fucking bass like it makes it
Starting point is 01:24:33 no trouble just off the vibes alone it's like from the production you can tell that it's it's like overproduced it's too clean way too clean
Starting point is 01:24:47 from the lyrics you can tell that it's it's like Like, what's it called when, it's like means tested. It's like means tested. Yeah, they like get some people in and they're like, do you resonate with these words or these words more? Right, right, right. And they've had the, oh man, I know what you're trying to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:11 You know, like one name things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it's a vibe. But if what they're saying has no nuance, like, I get fucking sick of songs that are like, they're just regurgitating a feeling that's been regurgitated a million times, you know? Like, the reason I like LoRour is because they'll spend a whole song, like, expressing a really particular feeling, right? That's, like, specific to that. and you can feel that that nuance in that whereas like if it's if it's bents and boon
Starting point is 01:25:54 like screaming and doing flips about like just general stuff there's like no specificity where yeah it has to be broad enough it can't be that personal because then it it's too alienating yeah yeah it's it's got to be music that's like i've got skin and eyes well like the imagine dragon approach where it's like everything has a big like anthem yeah yeah yeah like hollow and empty about it like it's just sounds big yeah yeah yeah it's not backed up by anything and yeah um that that muse song kind of pisses me off the um they yeah
Starting point is 01:26:42 it's like faux punk it's like the aestheticization of a grand movement it's like you're making the sound of a movement but it means nothing they
Starting point is 01:26:57 like they who are they you know it's got to be broad so your version of they can be mapped onto it yeah so it could be an anthem for like a hardcore left wing uprising or it could be the anthem for a hardcore right wing uprising
Starting point is 01:27:18 it could be an anthem for a hardcore centrist uprising like it's so unspecific that they're kind of saying nothing um in a I mean it with that that muse song I can respect it a bit more because I guess you could argue they're like capturing just that yeah I actually like that song I think it's a well-made song yeah like the it's it's I guess more more lyrically I don't really respect it it's yeah it's like it's like when I was like a teenager I twiged on that like oh if you'd like just include something to like the word revolution and running and yeah yeah stuff is like kind of a bit of a hack to just make it sound like big and important. Mm-hmm. And it's, it's, yeah, it's like cheating. It's the kind of shit you hear on
Starting point is 01:28:15 Radio 1 and it's like, they're just saying a whole lot of nothing. They have, I feel like there's a responsibility and even if they're saying something that I don't agree with, like say it. Like, you're in a position, you're, you're positioned where everyone is going to hear you. So fucking say something. Say something of value. you don't just say like that's risky and hard yeah yeah well it's i guess it's people who do say things are less likely to get into that position because it's less marketable i guess um so the conclusion i guess is that if if the motivation is marketability then your art is diminished somewhat yeah i'm i'm okay with like i call it mars bar music um
Starting point is 01:29:08 I'm okay with it existing sometimes. Like do you know that song Eidamami? No. By Baby, baby, baby money, money, baby boy. Oh, baby no money? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:22 You have heard it. But yeah, probably. Where he's like, I'm wearing a chain and it costs a lot and booty. I fucking hate that shit. Yeah, I don't, I would never say it's like great music.
Starting point is 01:29:38 but I'm fine with it existing just like a Marsba existing so eating a mazbo it's like empty calories um sometimes I don't I just like it I don't respect it I don't like sometimes there's sometimes there's time for that sometimes there is I I don't like I don't like anything that like values that sort of shit I don't like materialism it's it's like so in all music it feels um just like i've i've got all the money and i've got i've got it depends to me it how much they lean into the sense of humor because like yeah but it like when it's raggedocious when it's uh part of like a character or like i don't know i'd say like
Starting point is 01:30:28 some early kane stuff feels that way or uh some of charlie xex feels that way too where it's like so over the top and comedic and like leaning into it and it's so kind of absurd absurd there's something I like about that because it knows what it is but like Kanye back in the day explicitly spoke out against like he he would talk about how vapid he felt and how he
Starting point is 01:30:50 kind of hated yeah because there was more to he would still brag about being a billionaire but there would also be like more personal like it could only be him coming from him type lyricism yeah and like it would through the album maybe it would
Starting point is 01:31:06 be more fleshed out but when I don't know if like baby no money like can definitely make a catchy song yeah but I don't I don't see baby no money saying anything of any value ever like that's in the lyricism yeah yeah and and then it's like
Starting point is 01:31:29 it just feels like a waste to me you know and he's he's come out and explicitly said a bunch of the lyrics are literally like meaningless they don't make sense their algorithm tuned yeah yeah and like I don't respect that
Starting point is 01:31:45 I don't either but like you like oh what's he called fuck he released an album recently you know he dressed up as like the devil and like pissed off puritanical Christians
Starting point is 01:31:57 um oh um Lil Nas yeah yeah like he did the exact same thing But, like, you're not going to say it's not, like, a fun banger, some of these songs. I guess...
Starting point is 01:32:15 You know what I mean? Yeah, I think... I think he's saying way more. I think that, like, being a flamboyantly gay rapper is a pretty great statement. Yeah. I think that's, like, a good movement. But it's still like a Mars bar song But like the way it's positioned within like
Starting point is 01:32:43 What he means in the media landscape Is more important than a baby no money Like some Yeah I wouldn't disagree with that And so I like him more than your baby But like there are definitely some I guess Not all music needs to be like
Starting point is 01:33:01 A hugely That's more why I'm getting at I feel like there's a space for that and there's a space for like the clash or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. I think when the thing the majority of pop stars are singing about is like having a bunch of money and... Yeah, it's encouraging something bad. Well, yeah, it's it's like making a nasty cycle where it's like that it's reinforcing values that we shouldn't, we should be moving away from that stuff.
Starting point is 01:33:35 It's like the opposite of progressive. I see it as kind of like, like it's right wing. It's, um, like, uh, I don't want to say propaganda, because it's not propaganda.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Um, but it's, it's reinforcing, what I feel to be poor ideals. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know. It's,
Starting point is 01:34:02 it's curious to me because things, like I just mentioned, the clash I don't think people are even thinking about the lyricism and are playing it like mars bar music almost at a point it's like been so diluted yeah when they're playing like the casbah they're not thinking about the lyrics at all they just like london calling or any of it yeah you're totally right and I suppose in a sense um to commercialize like if it it's almost more contradictory to be positioned in like a position of like wealth and power and you do have all the cars and the chains and stuff and to act like you don't i don't know it's it's like a
Starting point is 01:34:46 catch-22 because i just want some self-awareness i want some cleverness uh huh yeah um there is still a distinction there between that and that stuff you hear when you're in McDonald's or whatever and it's like oh for sure seems like it was like it's what you would have called AI music before AI music was like possible yeah like well I think like benson boone or whatever the fuck his name is who is this he's the backflip they're like please yeah oh that song he's wonderful and whenever he performs he like does a backflip of a grand piano god I've had that song so many times against my will he's he's released like more shit music recently and it's it's like that that that is mcdonald's music and it's trash fucking
Starting point is 01:35:37 totally vapid worthless mcdonald's music yeah but that's what i mean it's like but you're still gonna go and eat your macdonald's fries you know what i mean yeah i guess yeah i don't know i i i feel like a snob sometimes um hmm which it's probably kind of true but I also think that maybe people should be more snobby. We should like
Starting point is 01:36:09 we should value value values and statements you know it's like people just enjoy these things in such a myriad different ways. Yeah um if a
Starting point is 01:36:27 if a if edamami comes on in a club or whatever, people are going to, like, have loads of fun. Is Edamami ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-da- No, no, it's, uh... Because he did that one, right? I think, um-lun-dum-d-d-l-lub-lub-lub-dud-da-da-da-do-do-do-do-do-do-dha. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You get what I'm saying, though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, our mum, for example, she says, when she listens to songs, she doesn't even listen to the lyrics, which to me, which to me, was like insane yeah and like we haven't even talked about like um instrumental stuff like which is just as valuable um this it's just like the the capacity for music to be moving for a film to be moving or like to check it like i've had experiences with music movies video games that like change my entire perception on like the world and how I feel about things and like my morals like I yeah Deadpool 2 yeah I like I just the trailer for Deadpool v Wolverine
Starting point is 01:37:41 um they but it's it's why I get so passionate and fucking cringy about Deadpool pissing me off like you have so much that you could do to like change the hearts of my in people um but we we just we just want fucking we want to see Wolverine fight Deadpool yeah and yeah I guess like there should be space for that but you
Starting point is 01:38:10 you can also do more with it you know yeah Mr Bastard's new record is co-labbing with Benson Boone yeah Mr Bastard and Benson Boone Hard
Starting point is 01:38:28 There's one Please Shut up There's one more I want to end on Which is kind of continuation of this Bebe
Starting point is 01:38:43 Chial Love to hear in your chat About learning music on the last episode I'm a private guitar teacher And hearing jimbus Talking about how sleep makes a huge difference with learning Is something I preached
Starting point is 01:38:56 all my students. Working with younger students usually, my biggest concern is always that they have fun and enjoy playing the instrument first and foremost. I always try to get my students to choose songs that they like to listen to learn, like Edomami, because it makes so much more enjoyable to figure out. Honestly, doing this line of work, I've learned that consistent, mindful practice is the key to learning just about anything. Keep it up, Beast. I'm rooting for you and your piano journey. Also, hearing that AI song, I figured I'd recommend a song I wrote almost two years ago with somebody's who've never heard of JAR. I managed to
Starting point is 01:39:29 sneak a couple of references in and now we all say pep pop pooi bear bear and sum sing all the time or something. I've been listening since 2016 fellas. Huge thanks for being a consistent source of enjoyment and comfort over the years absolutely froth your work.
Starting point is 01:39:45 No, I've heard that one before. Let's go. Awesome. Awesome. You put a link to it so I play the bit. Spotterpo. It's called Edomami by Bing Bing No Money. This is Maritime Savoy by the Houseboat Tapes. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Where's the bit? Where is it? Name is Roy. He's my best friend. And you better believe it. I know it's hard for you to conceive it. Pimpop boy, Easter boy, Marriams, Savoy, Pimpa, boy. You see what I mean? Like, music can say so much. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's some great fucking music. That's some good show right there. So don't copyright claim us, please. But, uh, yeah, shit yeah another musical kind of fine mm hmm you could sort of say we're like the
Starting point is 01:41:06 the busiest music nerds kind of maybe the second busiest I might quit music boring boring hell divers is more fun yeah how does the hell divers theme go Buh, bha-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-h-ha- No, it doesn't go like that. What the fuck was that? That was the amazing Spider-Man T theme. How does it actually go? You got to get some dubstep in there. Because I've got the Apex theme stuck in my head now.
Starting point is 01:41:54 No, no, no, no, no. Wait, kind of fire. That theme is kind of fire. How does it actually go? Ode to Liberty? A cup of... I remember it now. Yeah, let's see if I can do it on this.
Starting point is 01:42:24 it's something like that did you see the um i i saw it was like um you know in america they have like the band yeah yeah big band um it was like some assembly and they snuck in the howdy was theme with the big bands like the horns and stuff that's really fucking sick
Starting point is 01:42:48 yeah did you see that animation going around of someone um putting master chief in helldivers. No. It's like this crazy elaborate animation. And it just got me like one note on the piano. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like the most hype thing ever.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Bam, bum, bum. I genuinely think that's 80% of what makes eight Lord is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, could you imagine if it had some like Amazing Spider-Man 2 type beat? Ferrell. Spooky, scary, I'm sorry. The water are coming.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Yeah. I hope you enjoyed. I'm gonna kind of shit myself. I'm kind of going to give myself a shit. Poohannaway dash fart. Burp with a hint of poo Fart with a burp with a hint of poo
Starting point is 01:44:05 Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha

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