JAR Media Posdact - the END begins...
Episode Date: June 30, 2025https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 07:00 Housekeeping 24:43 Jim is Raging over Superman 32:41 The New Dexter Show 37:54 Low Roar and Smoking 41:26 Funnie Dream 47:59 Trainwreck: ...Poop Cruise 51:04 Mid Break 57:03 Grizzly Tales for Gruesome Kids 58:03 RE5 & 6 Remakes 1:02:09 Dog Hairs 1:03:50 Rillas in London 1:05:51 School Subject Struggles 1:16:21 The Cringiest Year 1:18:14 Bob Dylan CBT 1:23:09 Hollow Charts Music 1:38:41 Guitar Teacher JARling #BroCastS2E16
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Don't you be cringy
Don't you be cringy
I'm just gonna lay one down
Thoughts?
Hip, hip.
Hooray.
Hip, hip.
Hooray.
Sound like craft work.
We are your life.
We don't need autotune.
We don't need autotune. We don't need no synths.
We just got the power of our voices behind our throats.
That's how they did it back in the hood.
In that German hood.
Yeah.
In the German hood.
We are so Redbowl
We are in the hood
Jim is drinking Red Bull
I'm drinking Red Bull
I've got a cup full of Red Bull
and I just can't put it down
Cheers to another day of sweating
Another day and no sweatin up
It's real
Stop complaining about the heat
I live in bloody desert I live in hell
Yeah the devil right
it's in. Stop complaining.
You won't experience nothing yet.
You haven't even experienced the
mega sun heat yet.
Fuck that guy. Fuck the devil. Fuck the devil.
F the devil. The devil my op.
Mm. Your opposition.
The devil my op.
If you know, you know.
The devil's my opposition.
My opponent?
Um, my
opposite.
my yang to my yin my opponent
yeah my op
my yeah
is that what op means
opponent i assumed it was one of those
or opposition
hmm
somebody tell us or don't
or optimal
my optimal
my optimus
my optimus
my optimus
optimus
optimus has run vibes
run energy
Optimus
Uh
Good afternoon morning, evening or night
Ladies and gentlemen
and robots and decepticons
And ops
And optometrons
This is episode
I think it's episode 17
It's not
Of the broadcast
Of season two
But you know what I was thinking about this
Last season was about 50 episodes
We could just do whatever we want
This could be the last episode of this
season. Okay, season finale.
Oh, is this a season finale? I'm getting hyped.
Maybe.
Should we do a two-part of season finale?
Yeah, yeah. So 17,
and then 17.1 or whatever.
Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's smart. That's smart.
Did I say I'm Alex joined by Jim?
Or is it Jim joined by Alex?
It's Jim. I'm Jim.
Joined by Alex.
Well, nowadays I go is Mr. Bast.
Mr. Bast.
Mr. Bust.
Mr. Bast.
Mr. Bast.
Bust.
Mr. Bast.
Or others call me hard.
Nicknamed Hard.
Dyerast man.
Mr. Bast hard.
Mr. Bast hard.
And I haven't even had the Red Bull.
Really?
No, I'm the one going,
Farr.
See, the Red Bulls make me kind of sleepy.
Yeah, I have that sometimes.
So bigger, the Red Bull,
more sleepy.
Because I had that big bucket,
and then I had chalky fudge frappe.
And now I'm having the Red Bull.
I'm,
I'm feeling a bit snugly.
You want to have a little nap
while I finish this thing?
Yeah.
If I do,
you'll just,
just stem.
Wee, we, we,
yeah.
Yeah.
well uh another dad a dollar was a rabble yeah that wakes me yeah i guess you hyped
uh before we get too deep in this episode got a shout of those jar median jar medians patrons
who make the show and the audio version possible you get that raw unfiltered mp3 over on patreon ad
free baby that's not all get your patron names read in the first or second week of each month
It won't be this one, but it might be the one after, or the one after that.
Or the one after that.
Because this will be going live, I think, on the very last day of the month.
Which will be something.
I think you're right.
It would be the 30th of June.
Absolutely.
Bloody absolutely correct.
After hours, the supplementary Patreon show, which has been on fire.
Like this country.
Yeah.
Man, what we've been doing lately last week I did, I propagate everything.
Went through all my pups.
That was fun
It was about 10 minutes old
Of going through all my pups
Well, most of my pups
There are some pups
I couldn't be asked
To lug up and down the stairs all day long
That's fine
It's okay to have some pups that are just for you
Thank you
You don't need to share all your pups
Yeah
There's some pups in the background
That's not all there
There's the Mission Impossible Final Reckoning
As they say
Paisley's chance
Adventure Time Hater
Becomes Lika
Meal
Devours Bickies and Giel
jar divers with loads
Argy Cuddle Mars Express, as they say, GTA trailer breakdown, just now I'm the Alpha, the Snyder song, and so much more.
It's getting a list so big that I feel bad just reading them off at a certain point, you know what I'm saying?
There's just so many goodies.
There's a nice fat playlist building over there, which you should check out, alongside the JAR Media Group Chat.
And I'm going to group cat.
What the hell happened there?
I'd say it's a better deal than the Gears of War III season pass.
In my humble opinion.
It might be a better deal than all the weapon skins for Geysible 3 pack.
I don't know, that might be overstepping.
That wasn't good skins in that.
Grab your Tim stickers and the Jaffer Hour's vote for this month.
The Invincible Season 3 video is the winner.
So that will be going live today as of us recording.
So that should be live for you now.
There'll be some fresh comments that would be nice to hear from.
Right, let's do some housekeeping in there where we round off
these conversations from the previous E-P-I-S-O-D-E.
I'll say that one more time, F-U-C-K-Y-O-U.
Do I spell that right?
I've never been that good with the numbers.
Yeah.
Meep Top can get us going.
He quoted me saying,
one thing I'm definitely appreciating the older I get about art in general
is how much I enjoy imperfections in things and how that will often give things a personality
that a perfect thing might not.
To which he says,
I've had the same growing appreciation of imperfections in art as I've gotten older,
but it's often been quite difficult for me to reconcile with.
As an artist, I struggle with crippling perfectionism,
despite the fact that all my favourite art is incredibly messy and human.
As a critic, the idea of enjoying and embracing imperfection is, to many,
the antithesis of criticism.
Even with YouTube itself, I often find myself idealizing the times when the video is uploaded to this platform weren't so generally well-polished and impersonal.
One of my favorite things about the very cast, sorry, this very cast is that despite how much it has changed and grown over the years, it still feels somewhat plucked from that older time, warm, human, and even a bit esoteric.
Broadly speaking, especially with the rise of AI, I hope that people start to reconsider what, whether perfect art is even worse, something worth pursuing, given the immense value.
that highly imperfect art made by humans has brought into our lives.
Pessimistically, though, it seems like us humans,
have always been hell-bent on scrubbing our own fingerprints from everything we touch.
It's hard to see that changing anytime soon,
but as always, thanks for being you, Jha, it's needed now more than ever Bear Bear.
You're very welcome Meetop.
Check out his channel.
Thank you. Lovely, lovely comment.
You?
What does esoteric mean?
A little bit.
Huh?
So someone puts on Jar and they go.
Or is it more like
Hmm
I think it's very much more
Huh
Right
Or sometimes even a
Yeah
My voice keeps breaking
Apparently that happens more when you're dehydrated
Really
Maybe you should drink more
Okay
Whatever happens to you walking around with your little baby bottle
You used to always have that
Full of ice
Lost it
What
unless it's attached to me like um if i if i was like had robocop leg and it just went
yeah well soon enough my first bob mod yeah the the cup
the cup can't put down my icy cup the cup holster you literally never have to put down the cup
then well speaking of putting things down a few people were upset by what i said about blade
what the vampire
uh he's got vampire vibes
he's swedish
that's like the least
vampirical society
what
pickles the random tune said
can't believe jar aren't blade fans
devastating day for white boys
with esoteric taste of music
that's a double esoteric
why is this
why does this number keep coming up
esoteric
because I remember
I was introduced to the word
esoteric through dark souls too
I thought it stood for elder scrolls
online
elder scrolls online
tis epic
terrific
terrific it's terrific
that's what it means
um and sir eternal said
genuinely devastated that Alex doesn't like Blade
and Tutu Lagoon says
Leaving Blade is breaking my heart
How does everybody know Blade
Because he's worked with Charlie
and young Lean
Young six lean
They got young lean up in this
He's Swedish too
Young lean is Swedish
Yeah
I thought young lean is what was in the cup
It is
Huh
I think
This is confusing
Everywhere I go I just get handed
Lean for free
It keeps me
Tip top
Keeps me young
Hmm
Certainly keeps me young
What about young gravy
No he's what
California
right
he's got a big golden
that you buys
100 grand chains for
Jim like that one
Jim will remember that
yeah Jim will
no he won't
like blade and shit
I don't know
I don't know I'm sorry
I'm sorry I'm
I'll be honest
I'm not going to go out my way
to listen to a Swedish rapper
thank you to be perfectly frank um yeah yeah like i i i get the um like if you really like a type of
music to be inspired by that and to make your own thing but also um i don't i just feel like
to be swedish and to rap just feels a little bit like omniumeronic
No, oxy- an oxymoron.
An oxymoronic, sorry, not old man.
They hear what you're saying.
They should be, like, singing about Red Bull or something.
Hmm.
Or pretending to be little robots.
We are the robots.
That's German, but I understand what you're saying.
I got fucking Rebel all over my fingers.
Uh-oh, you got that Rebel finger again.
I feel like Homer after he's had a donut.
Hmm.
Spencer Lane, 415.
said JAR Media movie has been removed.
Jarm Media Escape to Swindon is up still.
Oh, hell yeah.
So obviously, like, it was immediately taken down.
That's emotional.
So I'm still quite upset.
Why can't we have shit?
Why can't we have shit nowadays?
Why can't we just have this?
Why can't somebody just make a movie
and let it be?
Let it be.
Let it be.
Did you have a red ball on your nipple?
Oh no
You got that
Lactating fucking rebel
That's hardcore
James Stanley said
Could Alex elaborate
On what his personal world is about
If he's ready to share it
What
What's not about my personal world
Oh right
I thought they meant like your
Like your lived experience
Of like planet earth
Oh
Well
In a sense
fancy it could be okay i guess yeah it's not there no because it's mine do you think um
something is lost if it's shared no it's more uh Kevin Smith will steal it and make a
movie out of it mm you don't want him making a movie of anything unless it's task
What about your world? Do you want to share your world?
Um, it's too kind of hardcore. It's too like metal.
Really? It's like heavy metal magazine?
Yeah. It's like um, it's like juggalo weekly.
Does it have like babes and metal bikinis flying teradacti?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I wish. I'm not, I'm not that fucking metal enough. I couldn't come up with shit like that.
mine doesn't have dinosaurs but it does have something kind of like dinosaurs oh okay
like something that is like an equivalent to our dinosaurs you mean like an ancient
kind of like life form that there's evidence of or is it more like there are current
big creatures current big creatures yeah muted though yeah oh mutented
mutated mutated yeah cool from something
from dogs
let's say the
cortisept virus
goes out
oh interesting
um
a sniggle
thug
careful there
uh
has one that's angry at you
belter is gay
why's that me
because you were like saying
how old you love saying things are a belter
oh oh shit right
what what
how the fuck is it gay
it's probably the straightest way you can compliment something
it's a super straight
yeah it's hyper straight which in a sense is kind of gay
so I guess the comments is kind of right
damn that was a whole
that was a hobbit there and back again
true
hmm absolutely
Charlie Boardman 2005 says
stop making the intro so long
no just because you said that I'm going to do it again
good afternoon morning evening or night
Charlie Bordman, 2005, this is another intro just for you.
That's what you get, mother.
Um, and Max Gray Sacks says complaining about 30 degrees Celsius is actually so cringe.
Well, I'm going to do the intro again.
You come here then.
No, come here and fucking stand outside.
In the sun.
Do you think he's German?
Ha, ha, ha.
We're the robots.
Why do you laugh like that?
I love Germans.
They make the best music.
Let's not touch on the Germans this episode.
Why?
It's an enemy we don't need at the moment.
We're just stacking up those enemies, left them right.
Yeah.
The French, the Swedes.
The French are at our throats.
Who else in Europe do we want to despise us?
Um, I think we should team up with the Spanish.
Oh, they hate us, though.
Well, they all fucking hate us.
Well, I guess we're going to go the other way.
Canada?
Canada like us.
We own them.
They're our own.
Canada's making a deal with the EU.
They're taking our spot.
Yeah, they're crawling back.
Surprise, surprise.
Look, he's knocking at the door.
You bloody Canadians.
Oh, wait, we're not in the EU.
Did you just forget?
Yeah.
I wanted to do for Javhtar I was a 28 years later discussion but seeing as we mentioned it I just want to say a Brexity movie
a brexit movie yeah like completely isolated from everyone around it right in small little
sub communities that are smaller and smaller and hate each other more and more
we can't communicate it is just post-Brexit
in the UK
It's a documentary
It's not even
Post Liz Trust
28 years ago
Liz Trust became
Prime Minister
Yeah
Um
Burst Whale has one
That
I'm pretty excited about
I genuinely know a dude
RRL called Arcini
So the whole segment
in last week's episode
Was how you say mighty
Do you believe it?
No
Arcini
Arsini
No one's called fucking Arsini.
This brother Vizini.
He spelt it interestingly. It's not how I spell it.
He's kind of spelled it Ars N-I-Y.
Ars N-I-Y.
Oh no, it is a name.
The former Prime Minister of Ukraine.
What? Okay, shit. Maybe he's real.
Where the fuck did you come up with Arsini?
What?
Yeah, because I was thinking like...
Vizini or like...
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like a lot of Italian words and with iny.
Yeah, yeah.
Tortilini.
Yeah.
So I was just thinking, Arsini.
I guess it's like a name.
There's a Ukrainian footballer.
Arsini BataGole.
It's actually one of the most common names on planet.
Arsini Popov.
Popov.
He's a Russian actor.
So I guess, yeah, they got some crazy names over there, huh?
Arsini.
Nice.
Well, to be fair, they might say Alex is a crazy.
name.
Yeah, I suppose.
From their perspectives, you know what I'm saying?
Well, they'd be dumb and stupid.
True.
Hmm.
Well, I've got some from the Jarm Media Group chat, which might be a little bit sighting.
Would you agree?
A bit citing.
A thunder slug says, are you boys aware of the growing PS4 emulation space, which is now allowing
some people, not me, of course, to play Bloodbourne on PC?
What do you guys' thoughts on emulation and its questionable legality in general?
well it's illegal that's not questionable yeah we only do what's legal well that's not what i'm just
saying like it's we are men of the law that's yes obviously we we are in minecraft no you know
that was that was like proven in court to not work oh fuck run a bag run in roblox i'm in roblox
What are we talking about?
Someone called Arsini would definitely emulate Bloodborn on PC.
Yeah, I mean, in Bloodbourne, I think it is illegal to break the law.
No, they phrased it as questionable.
It's not questionable.
It is illegal.
Yeah.
So you're not allowed to do it.
On a moral plane.
Moral doesn't equal the law.
Like, morals don't.
I'm going to say.
Emile, whatever you want.
I don't care.
Yeah, morally.
Don't legally.
As far as game preservation?
Emile.
I agree.
If they don't want to offer it as a product,
this is how we feel about many, many, many, many, many thousands,
if not tens of thousands of movies from the past few decades.
Well, longer.
The past hundred years.
Yes.
If you don't make it accessible,
you know, the more roadblocks you put up,
the more people will,
do it illegally if you make it easy for me to buy something like i i'm to the point where like
it's it's just easier for me less steps fewer steps for me to buy like a game straight off steam
at a higher price than it is to go to like cd keys right so i'll buy it on steam you know like
just because it's it's like the access is so fucking easy yeah give me charge me 80 pounds
for blood born on steam i'll fucking buy it yeah it would sell probably
yeah but then but that price also then is like you're you wouldn't be a moral for pirating it
because the price is too high you're pricing people out so you're then motivating people to steal
you'd make more money by having a lower price so put it on steam for fucking 30 pounds and people
won't emulate it emulate shm emulate yes i think it should go on steam for 40 pounds i think
it would sell like fucking crazy yeah i reckon they could even do 50
um no because like ghost of sushima is like 40 50 okay fine so i'd say blood born 40
yeah so genuinely like emulate away yeah no there's there's literally zero moral
ambiguity there in fact you're more moral if you do pirates you're more moral yeah
if you emulate for sure uh dylan casey says please for the love of god do it
is Andor as good as they say in Slip Plunge, 1997 says I second the Andor video idea.
Sorry, Jim hates you.
Yep, hate you guys.
I'll get round to it.
I just need, um...
He needs incendii.
I need comfort.
We need Arsini.
Yeah.
To nudge you alone.
Yeah.
Because I got Arsini on me.
Arsini is kind of a Star Warsy name
Arsini
Punch at Arsini
Yeah
In the
In the comic between episode six and seven
There was a whole
Arsini arc
I don't know if you've read the Arsini arc
Most fans think it's pretty good
It's got some weak points in the second act
But it comes back round
And makes Arsini
genuinely one of the best glops shittos yet
Arsini
Arsini
Run
Arsini flies now
Somehow
Arsini return
Speaking of
Darth Jar Jar Jar Jar Jar Jar Jarja
Ha ha ha ha said
Are we excited for Superman?
Yes
Br
I'm very excited
It was feeling
quite far away
So I was just kind of ignoring it
yeah um and it's as it gets closer i'm remembering how much i loved superman as a kid
and it kind of means this movie doesn't need to do that much to get me
nostalgia nostalgia baiting rage nostalgia baiting all over social medias
the organized attempt of the Snyder subreddit.
Yeah.
To counter.
Yeah, it's getting like review bombed as well, apparently.
Shall I find that to read it?
Because I do really associate Superman with you.
I remember you had that Superman, like, costume.
Well, yeah, I'd wear, I'd wear that more than, like, ordinary clothes.
Because I'd usually dress as Batman.
Mm-hmm.
I had Superman and Spider-Man.
Yeah.
I loved the, like...
More colourful.
The optimistic characters.
Like, I love that about Spider-Man.
It's why I just love that character.
Um, and Superman is that same thing just times 10 and a bit less, um...
Yeah.
So I'm hopeful.
So far, like, the trailers are genuinely really good.
Um...
Yeah, they are.
The only thing that I'm like, hmm, is the, the, like, other superheroes in the movie?
How many characters are in it?
Yeah, I get that.
I, I'm sure that.
they're not going to be that big of a part, but it's like, why, why are they here?
I think the, there might be something to do with, like, governments using them, and they're
more, like, arms of the government type thing, where he's more on his own, I don't know,
something like that. Yeah.
Should be kind of interesting. Yeah, and I, I guess it's like a jump start for this, this DC universe.
I don't know if they're going to have, like, some Ukraine-type commentary in there, or
is that there's like a war that something that's going on in there yeah i'd be curious what
how that works out um yeah because it from the trailers he's like being questioned as to why he
went to a different country and got involved in a conflict and he's trying to say that he was like
it's just him as an individual it's not he's an independent he's not representing america
yeah it could be really interesting for that stuff and james gun um i know my my my meme
years is how much of a hater of like Guardians of the Galaxy and shit I was but
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 guardians of the Galaxy 3 um suicide squad was fun James
Gunn like he he gets characters he fucking gets it he really gets it that's like the main
reason I have faith is because he weren't direct it directed it like he hasn't let me
down yet so he seems to work well within a studio system he actually cares about
like the comics and shit and like what characters
stand for. I think
equally studios trust him now.
Yeah. Like they're like
okay, have the reins.
Please save us.
Yeah. But yeah, I found that post
I was saying about from our slash Snydercutt.
Stand up and fight for Snyderverse
on July 11th. Fight
for our Snyderverse on the imposter
Superman release day. Here's what we can do
to make a difference. Number one. And there's three
of these. Post spoilers everywhere.
People are less likely to see or on
the movie if it's already spoiled. Number two, leave bad ratings on review sites. We know for sure
gun bots will post fake positive reviews so we must let people know the truth and balance the
bias out with realistic scores. Number three, reserve tickets online but don't complete the purchase.
By selecting and reserving tickets, it gets taken out of the pool for a period of time,
which means this has a chance of stopping gun bots from buying tickets. Gun fired the first shot
and killed the Snyderverse and here's our chance to take the fire.
back to him hashtag restore the Snyder burst and also hashtag if we if we can't have our
Superman no one can you had it though yeah you had it for ages yeah can we talk about like
why are people this into Snyder I don't know especially because like James Gunn and
Snyder are literally friends they like yeah yeah they're like Snyder's repeatedly been like
Yeah, I'm cool with it.
Like it looks good.
They're like peers.
Yeah.
Why are people like against it?
It's a weird tribalism thing?
I don't know.
It's not randian enough.
I'm randy.
But did they turn like 12 right as like BVS came out and it's like their whole personality?
I don't.
I remember like I.
when I saw a man of steel as a kid like I liked it
when I saw even when I saw BVS I was like that
like that fight scene was cool there were like three cool
fight scenes in there uh yeah and it's like that's
that's all I needed and like I can appreciate like
those fucking action scenes rot
I give you the one no
the warehouse one the way the Batman warehouse one
yeah the um the Batman v Superman fight
I think
a lot of that is good
some of it's good
the first like
the first two thirds
of that fucking rock
yeah there's some good stuff
it's just a bit
when he's punching him
and he's like
the kryptonites wearing off
and he's like punching him
and then he stops flinching
and then Batman's face
is like
whoa
it's like
it's just comic book schlock
and as like a
an alternate universe
thing which DC loves to do.
Like, I'm fine with the existence of that
shit.
Why can't everyone see it that way?
It's like different takes on the same character.
Yeah, I don't know.
When Andrew Garfield's
Spider-Man was coming out,
you didn't get people like,
let's fucking book tickets, but not actually pay for them.
People can't go see that Andrew Garfield
Spider-Man, because it's, they've just
ripped it away from movies.
It's like, who gives a shit?
They're suddenly really invested in, like,
studio politics.
Like, what?
so corny
he the fuck gives this shit man
I guess like I was trying to think like
when in my whole life
at my cringiest points
have I ever been like that
that lame online
and I guess the only time
I veered onto that was during
like Halo 3 Killzone era
when I made like Killzone
success as
I was kind of cringy like Xbox 1
PS4 era
going into that generation
right right yeah
but like it was never like that serious
even though it's most serious
it was like
Killzone
sucks ass because it does suck as you know
yeah history's been on my side with that one
I got like rage baited by like
PS4 fans
commenting on Xbox exclusive
stuff and it would like piss me off
um it's so funny
and I'd say and like how
aggressive on the playground shit would get
over like PS3 Xbox 360
and stuff like yeah yeah just like
just
setting you up for that tribalism for like
what's it going to be like
yeah in 10 years
he was a goofy man
yeah and well going forward it's not going to be like um
russia's invaded ukraine it'll be like country
sony has like dropped a nuke on country microsoft
take up arms
ex-bots
yeah it's the only way to get people to care
yeah the mega corpse through fucking
they threaten your PSN account
yeah
yeah
well there's like
the hacker side of it as well
yeah
another one here
from some sort of nondescript patron
I finished Dexter recently
and I'd love to hear the funny brothers
extensive thoughts on how shit that ending is
and how this IP just refuses to call it quits
for some reason so this
new season is coming out
like in a mere weeks as a recording this
and I'm actually hyped
because it's gone full circle for me
we're like okay we're on the third ending of dexter now this is like loop back around to being hilarious
like this is like sore type shit but like right it's getting so convoluted and so stupid that
i'm kind of down for like just dexter existing until michael seawall dies now you know like just
do it forever yeah who cares at this point like genuinely yeah it's always totally been a weird
one because it's always been kind of tongue and cheek yeah it's like it's like it's
basically a comedy yeah like this first seasons but it's it's also like good at first and kind of like
the tone is just on that razor's edge like this is goofy but it's not too silly yeah they're like
moments that are meant to be serious like hit home yeah like they work but also it's the the concept
is just stupid yeah um it's super charming but i've i've never watched any dexter content post like
the ending um so like i don't know the prequel show was quite fun yeah so i hear all these
like cartoon interpretations all these characters that like still wear the exact same outfits
yeah yeah yeah decades before yeah yeah yeah yeah so i'm cartoonish about it i'm there for sure i feel
like um a lot of tv was that way and they just don't work they don't translate anymore um um
because it's like if you were to try and bring house back now
hmm i'm surprised they haven't done that with how like
uh yeah house has joined the like breaking bad
type meme speak yeah for sure but like house is way worse
like it's a way way way fucking worse show than breaking back
like it's crazy tv back then was fucking insane
desperate housewives crazy
the stuff they were
They're bringing that back.
Really?
Yeah, but I think it's like a prequel show.
Oh, okay.
Or something.
Right.
So they're doing all of it.
Like, we just got a nostalgia, everything and never make anything new ever again.
So.
But, yeah, it just highlights how much has changed in media landscape.
Yeah, because we, speaking of the Snyder stuff, that's kind of what defined the 2010s was like, let's go grim dark.
we're following the dark night
we've got to have serious tron now we've got to
have serious fucking superheroes
yeah everything's got to be dark and serious
and now everything's kind of like
fortnighty
everything's like in universes
with other things
yeah
expanded universes is the new one
which I feel like
is kind of a trend that
started on like cartoon network and shit
like the Jimmy Neutron
well it used to be like
I remember it used to be like a little Easter egg back in the day that like Quentin Tarantino would set his films in the same universe and they'd have the same like beer cans and shit
right yeah you know but it wasn't like a whole
this is built this builds into this yeah yeah bloody research like I I respect it for Marvel like it makes sense like that's that is how the comic books functioned
yeah uh to do it with everything is like what yeah Kingsman
the monsters from like
the old
like Frankenstein
oh yeah like the mummy and shit like that
that was never designed
to like feed into this you
what the fuck are you doing
it's like it works with Marvel
because that was the whole like idea
everyone was crossover events they want to see the crossover
big funny yeah um
even they can't do it anymore so
clearly well I don't know
I'm gonna be fucking whooping and hollering
when when uh
Robert Danny Doom shows up
No, when Daredevil shows up with Spider-Man
I'll fucking flip
Okay
Everyone's got their one
Yeah
Which would be your one
Uh
Hmm
Who's left
Who is left
Rock a Raccoon and Daredevil though
That would make me actually
No I meant Rock a Raccoon and Deadpool
Oh no dude
That would get me walking out of theatres
I guess you never saw the third one, did you?
No, I still haven't.
I might, oh, maybe I'll do that tonight.
I might.
No, hold it off until I do the Super Hero movies of that year one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you can watch it with me because I, okay.
Yeah.
Only if we can take copious amounts of booze with us.
Yeah.
This is, might be a first actually on the cover.
I want to read a question we did last episode again
because now you can actually answer it.
How about that?
What?
From Butterbean 1, 2, 3.
Good morning, boys, or something.
Question for Jim, since smoking was mentioned,
thoughts on the song, Field of Dreams by Low Rawls
from Low Rawls last album.
I asked this because it's song about smoking addiction,
something that has always played Ryan
and was most likely partially responsible
for his death of pneumonia.
I wonder how Jim interprets the song.
As I know, it's definitely one of the better songs
on the album, even if I'm a non-smoker
and don't immediately resonate with the theme.
So we mentioned this last episode,
but you hadn't really connected.
Yeah, I knew the song, but I didn't know,
I didn't know the meaning
because it had always perplexed me.
So then when I was walking home after recording,
I listened to this song with that context.
And it was like, wow, what a brilliant way.
I find low raw is perfect at capturing, like, a feeling.
Yeah, atmospheric.
Yeah.
And he so totally, like, encapsulates the, like, mind games you play with yourself.
Right.
Yeah, just a really, really well-written song.
And where initially I thought the lyrics were, like, weird and out of character.
for low raw
with that added context
it's like okay yeah
certified classic
but to be perfectly honest
this album
has just grown on me
all year
I think the whole album
is incredibly good
obviously
it's not gonna like
get you terned
or whatever
do people still say terned
I'd forgotten about that
yeah is that a thing
is there low roar
and death surrounding
too? I don't know.
Babies on the beach?
I feel like there should be an ode at least in that to him.
Yeah, for sure. There's got to be.
I'm pretty sure Ryan is like one of the guys in the first game.
Really? That's cool.
He's like with Jimmy Kimmel or whatever.
Conan and Brian.
Yeah, he's bunkered up with Conan.
Isn't Jeff Keely one of them?
Yeah, he's like the one up the mountain on his own, I think.
Yeah, there's all sorts of fucking silly little guys in there.
I'm so weird.
Yeah, the directors, though, it makes sense to me.
But when it's like Jeff Keely, it's like...
Well, they're like best buds, Jeff Keely and...
Yeah, but it's like...
That's so fucking weird.
Conflict of interest.
Yeah, massively.
Yeah.
When it's like directors, it's like a full circle thing where it's like he's massively inspired
by all these directors and having them as cameos.
It's like not their voices or something?
No.
I think a couple...
Like it's Jeff Keeley's voice, I'm pretty sure.
But he's not in like cutscenes and that.
He's more like an Easter egg.
Right.
You deliver some stuff to a bunker and then he'll hit a hologram of him will like walk out and be like, oh thanks Sam.
I'm going to give you game of a year for this.
Yeah.
But yeah, awesome album.
Listen to it
Nice, well
I got something fucked
Oh
Well, it's not fucked
Have you ever had
A dream
So funny
That you wake up and you just start scream laughing
I had that for the first time
The other day
Yeah
It was like
Because when I was in the dream
It didn't seem that weird
But then I woke up and was like
What the fuck?
It was like
I was at a train station
Like a really old timey
Like a picture of really old train station
Yeah
From like the 1800s or something
And all these old ass trains are going by
Like Red Dead 2 vibe
Kind of yeah
But I'm like waiting for ages
It feels like forever
for my train
and while I'm waiting
in whatever dream universe this was
I guess instead of having cars
everyone had like
imagine a one carriage train
like that was
right yeah yeah like these one carriage trains
would be showing up
and one of them was like
imagine a carriage of a train
but like
in the middle of it was like a giant
like plastic
motorbike
with like
an eight year old on it
and it like
pulls into the station
no one gets on
and then it just like goes off
and everyone's just like acting
like it's the most normal thing
yeah yeah
all these like
absurd single carriage train
things were just showing up
and it was like you know dreams just feel
like they're going on forever yeah and it was like when is mine gonna show up and yeah i guess
the eight-year-old on the motorbike train was just like the funniest shit to me yeah it's just like
the bizarre imagery yeah the motor like why would you have like like it wasn't like a real motorbike
on it wasn't like actually controlling the train in any way it was like you know like in
supermarkets where they've got like the little plastic
right it was like one of those yeah yeah yeah but like and he was by himself so that was pretty
fire dreams are fucking crazy dude we do like a dream dream section every now and again yeah but
i i feel like um dreams are like the source of so much mythology and shit because it's like
Why can my brain conjure this shit?
Like...
Yeah, it's just processing something.
I think it's processing nothing.
Like, it's just, it's like entertainment.
Like, it's got to be why we're into films and stuff,
because it's like, oh, I'm imagining this story or whatever.
It's like what your brain just likes to do.
And it's like total, like, gloves off,
just brain going.
And then you get crazy shit like that.
and in the moment it feels so normal
and really.
It feels like you know
emptying the recycle bin
like there's all this like random shit
in the recycling bin
like there's a picture of like a
polar bear
and then there's like the scariest
thing you've ever seen
and like a song that's horrible
and it's all like smashed together
yeah yeah
gone
yeah
yeah
no I um
I had to get up for work on on Wednesday
um and I woke up slightly early
so I had like 20 minutes more to just like put my head down and I put my head down and fell asleep like immediately
and I was dreaming for like days years I was dreaming for days in my head and it was like this whole narrative
like these these people I've never met my brain like conjured these characters and we were all just like on
holiday like just chilling and it was days go by and then my alarm goes off and I wake up and it's been 20 minutes
and it's it's insane like mine are often like remixes of things that did happen but people that
weren't there are there now so like and you're the only one who knows that something's up yeah
I feel like it it feeds into like philosophy because it's like why so I still don't think we
know why but if if our brains can can make us feel like we
We exist in a, like a universe that just can't be.
And in the moment, we think it's real.
It feels real.
It feels real.
Like, who's to say, we're not in the dream of another thing?
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Yeah.
Like a rat's dream.
We're in a rat's dream right now.
Yeah.
We're in a caged rat's dream.
And it's going.
Yeah.
It's the Coke rat.
It's the Coke rat.
It's the Coke rat that's given nothing.
better to do just dreaming
that coke rat ain't dreaming
he ain't you never sleeping yeah
it's his hallucination
just as he's dying from but what was so messed up
about that funny dream was like oh man I hope
I have another funny dream tonight yeah
I had the worst nightmare
yeah it was like horrible I
I just the other day had like a night terror and woke up
screaming like in a movie yeah
and I
I have like
maybe three or four
night terrors a year
about spiders
every time. I only
have night terrors about spiders.
Wow. So I'm just, I'm straight up
fucking Ron Weasley.
Is the spiders?
Harry! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You tell those spiders, Ron.
I've been told that
I like laugh in my sleep.
Creepier.
Yeah, I just do the creepiest shit in my sleep.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
You're like Walaigi
Yeah
So God knows what's happening
You're bagging America
Yeah
One more thing before mid break then
It's this weird
Like documentary series on Netflix
called train wreck
And there was one that caught my eye
That came out yesterday I think
It's called train wreck poop deck
It's not
Okay
About a cruise in a
America, the lost power when it was halfway to Mexico, across the Gulf of Mexico.
Sorry, I mean, Gulf of America, of course.
Goof of America, yeah. Get it right.
And, uh, on like the third or fourth day of the cruise, yeah, the, the power went down.
And the toilet stopped being able to flush.
So it was like 3,000 people all pissing and shitting.
Oh, man.
To these toilets that can't flush.
and when the tugboats appeared to like come and grab them and tow them back to America
it tilted the ships and all the piss and shit was like uh all over the place
um i wouldn't recommend watching it it was a pretty bad documentary actually
funny story though yeah poo and way it was just like all these americans going like
and then there was poo on the floor
That sounds like a good documentary
Yeah, no, it sounds more
Awesome from my description than actually watching it
Because they're like
Like it sucks that that happened to them
But they're making out that like
They're in danger or something
When it was like, like they're on the Titanic or whatever
Yeah, yeah
When it was like
It was just a bit of poop
Come on
And there's like a whole section where they're like
We didn't know what to do
So we opened the bars
And then everyone got drunk
And started peeing everywhere
And throwing poop
It sounds awesome
They just had a great time
they just had like a ditty party
yeah
then we got the baby oil out
and started splishing and splashing
did
yeah
so or something
yeah fuck that
anything you wanted to bring up
um
just the poop and pee and
just poop
pee farts
yeah something like that
um
something esoteric like
burps
a burp
what is it
can you
Hey, Siri, what does esoteric mean?
It's something kind of like, huh?
Intended for unlikely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized
non-a-chore interest.
Oh.
So that's J.R. then.
Yeah.
We're an esoteric.
Guess we'll see you after these bastarding managers, you bastards.
We need to do more Joe Rogan shit like that.
He's the funniest comedian.
One of a dying few.
Whoa, one of the last 250 assassins.
Oh, yeah.
Dobby demands that you get a Tim sticker from the J, a media shoppy,
W. Oppie. Please, please.
Yeah.
Fine.
Fine. I'll do it myself.
Do your best thannet voice.
Fine, I'll do it myself.
Do you want to hear mine?
Fine. I'll do it myself.
I'm Alex.
Fine.
Fine. I'll do it myself.
Oh, Thanos is theme.
I don't even know quite who you are, boy, said Thanos to Spider-Boy.
I don't even know who you bloody is, I'm Alex.
What sort of man, Spider, do you think you are, Spider?
I'm kind of Spider-Man.
I'm Alex getting bitten by the spider.
Do you know what I want to fucking see?
I want to see Wonder Woman versus Thanos.
When you put it like that?
I okay no hear me out
I'm listening
listen listen
Captain America right
tightens the shield on his bleeding arm
right
right
yeah and it spurts out all over his face
all on his face and shit
and then he hears
on your left
a bit all the things open right
to fight Thanos
and then he says Avengers
And then behind him, like, next to him, steps forward, Wonder Woman, Gal Godot.
Yes.
Awful delivery.
Asamba.
And then, how fucking sick would that be?
It would be cool.
They could have gone so hard with that, like a portal opens and then...
Um, bum, um, dun, dun, don't, don't, don't.
Yo, he's running ahead of everyone.
You know where Captain American.
and black pants were running yeah he's in between them
yeah yeah
fuck that would have been sick
nah and then for me my like
get up hooping and hollering moment would be one of those
portals open johnny thunder comes through
oh fuck yeah
johnny thunder yes
another one
galador no galador's here
dude it's just infinite possibilities yeah no like x wings is that Snyder's Superman
Snyder's Superman and like every Superman Neil fistburn yeah yeah uniting everyone
yeah oh man Dobby and Harry Botts are going to do it oh fuck
The T-Rex from Jurassic Park
The TARDIS
All the doctors come out
Every fucking doctor
AI, all the dead ones
Man
It's just infinite possibilities
Wallace and Gromit
Like the train
Oh my God
You know they're making
They're making a Lego
Wallace and Gromit set confirmed
So depending on how they do
Wallace's scary face
I might have to
I feel like a grommet
mini fig would go kind of hard
I think they're going to do the
you know the motorbike with the little passenger
pod oh fuck yeah
they need to do the train though
I don't think it'll be
mini fig scale I think it's going to be big
yeah
fuck how could they do the train
and that's going to have to be your mock
mock
yeah
in the Lego community
when you make your own stuff
your own creations
yeah no do you know what I think is kind of
fresh what
having like a raised
little train set
like around the top of your
oh those are cool
yeah that's
like Danny
yeah yeah that's the dream
if you get that if you get to that point
as a as like a
a middle or working class man
like that's the heights that
that is your ceiling in this country
a literal train set on the ceiling
yeah the ceiling train set
yeah yeah yeah I hear you
I guess welcome to the second hour for the car
so we answer questions from the journal media subreddit
question thread heard it over there and not our
slash fnaf
and leave questions
why if you did get this far comment
gently now you just want to kiss the ground
just a little peck
a smooch like you're kissing your sister um classic classic line so they were so wild for that
i still actually can't believe it yeah like the timing of it
yeah that yeah the first time like we watched that scene was one of the hardest times i've
ever laughed at the movie it's why it's why for me madagascar too is the goat because of that one
like three minute sequence it's genuinely so funny it's so funny like the best action scene
the best action comedy yes of all time moment yeah the rest of the film sucks and the
the entirety of the rest of both other films suck say like it's goated madagascar two's
Gated.
OK training
9357 can start
off here.
Bear Bear.
Have you ever
heard of the
British 2000s
show
Grizzly Tales for
gruesome kids?
It was one of
the most horrifying
shows I've ever
seen in my
childhood.
Of course I remember
this.
Stop motion.
Stop motion
intro and then
like really cheap
2D animation
Yeah, that's right.
The actual shows
or at least some
There was a lot of like
freaky kids content
like goose bumps.
Yeah.
And a lot of it was like
designed to be warnings for kids
yeah sort of an a sop's fable type thing
yeah
but so disturbing that like it never would seep through in that way
no
stop motion could be so fucking freaky
yeah and he like it's the kid
he goes to like the cinema or whatever
and his popcorn like turns into worms
yeah it's just fucking
awful
what did he do wrong
he just wanted some popcorn dude
Blan scape says Jim
Having finally come out as a fully-fledged Resident Evil Guna
Would you now support an RE5 remake?
Along with RE6, 5 in my opinion,
would probably be the trickiest entry to cover
owing it to being very much grounded
in that 2007-13 era of grey-brown military shooters.
This is not to mention the game's more culturally questionable aspects
e.g. the native village segment.
We were talking about this the other week, but I didn't know about that.
Yeah, that needs changing.
That needs hardcore adjustment.
Because that was a big controversy back in the day with Resident Evil Fight.
What happens in that segment?
So it's based in Africa, right?
I knew that, yeah.
Everybody looked at the article that was like,
I think this game's kind of racist and everyone's like,
it's based in Africa.
So of course it's going to be like majority black zombies.
And like, okay, yeah, but then you get to that point in the game where it's like...
I don't think I've ever seen like even footage from it.
It's like the...
I don't know actually how to describe it without using, like, racist terminology.
Because it's like so, it's so caricature, like tribal African caricature.
I'll put, how about the commenters said, the native village?
You know, like, um, like Crash Bandicoot.
Oh, really?
The masks and stuff, like that type of, uh...
Right, okay.
Yeah, so there's like, uh, zombies with, like, the masks and stuff.
Yeah, very, very questionable.
Um, and I, I don't know if it, it, I don't think it,
comes from a place of racism but that depiction is like kind of inherently racist uh but yeah
i want a remake of five and uh like i feel like what they should do is truly remake five and six
like change the stories yeah yeah totally change the stories totally change what happens like
i don't think anyone considers them sacred like two or four so no and like you can still offer
the originals like you can still buy them and play them and shit um yeah true i've i've had
resident evil five on my wish list for ages because i kind of want to play through it like the game
feels good yeah yeah the gameplay felt fine it was just like i'd say it feels better than fine
like it feels crispy and um like crispy but then like the feedback is really tactile and nice
um i hear you and it's tense as well they're having to stop to shoot thing
really fun
um
but yeah
I'm down
and fuck it
make it
co-op
no
yeah fuck it
no make it in the style
of two or four
more four than two
like
a bit more action focused
yeah
um
but you can't be having
these big boss fights
with a scorpion and shit
there's a big boss fight
with like a giant ogre in four
and it works
it's like a big boss fight
with a giant monster
monster in two. That's cool though. Yeah. The crocodile. Like, no, I'm, I'm thinking of like the G virus or whatever. The, like, the last boss of two. Oh, the very last boss. Yeah, he's like a giant. He's like a giant monster. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Stop it. That's my opinion. Um, um, and six, I don't even
I haven't been able to play more than like two hours or six.
That game is trash.
Trash, trash.
It's fucking awful.
The BJ horse.
No, a giraffe, right?
Just a shite fucking game.
Last and 16th says,
Question for Alex.
How do you successfully pick up all of the dog hairs in your house?
I always find those pesky furs all over my house.
Um, I got an answer for you.
Uh, you don't.
Because it's impossible.
you have a golden retriever.
It's literally impossible.
It's impossible if you have, like, most dogs.
Yeah, unless they're, uh, they don't drop, drop, and they're more like sheep, sheep.
What?
You know what I'm saying?
Sheep, sheep.
Yeah.
Beah!
Yes.
I love sheep.
I love when they do, like, a...
Buh.
It's like, what are you actually communicating?
Yeah, I love.
Like you'll just be walking past some sheep
And they're just looking at you chewing
And also if you look closely when they chew
You can see them gulp
And the food goes down
The grass goes down
But then you keep watching
And it goes back up
And then they start chewing again
And they just keep doing that
And then they're like pulp
Yeah
And then they finally swallow
And it's gone
And they'll look at you and go
Beh
And then shit themselves
Yeah they're covered in shit
until they're sheared
one awesome animal
yeah they're good
they're just like total geeks
yeah I like them
you've got funny little faces
I never want to go near them
because they carry ticks
they've got ticks on them
so yeah
just give up
you got to just get used to
just pretend you're in the
the old west
and it's like the tumbleweeds
but it's piles of dog hair
whew
b'bba
bhae
bhae
To Dev the hero says hello
You talk about so much of a music this week
Will you be going to see the Rilas in the London this year
Bear Bear Bear Bear
Just insane
Insanely phrased
The Rellers
But I didn't realize that gorillas were doing
I didn't get nice for days
Each one
It was a demon days
Plastic Beach and mystery
tall date
whatever that means
maybe they're trying out
something new
for that last one
I guess I saw the notification
but I just figured it was like
another humans tall
I don't know what I was thinking
because if I'd caught the
the fact that it was themed
that way I probably would have
and we had this conversation the other week
which we'd want to see more
the demon days or plastic beach
and I would have gone for demon days
probably
I would go
I would go for Demon Days, but if Demon Days wasn't available, I'd be totally down for Plaster Beach.
Yeah.
Plastic Beach is fire.
Yeah.
I agree.
Yeah.
I had no idea.
But also, like, shit's too expensive anyway.
It's very expensive.
Can't have shit.
And I haven't seen them twice.
Yeah.
And I've got to save for Maricott.
And how are you going to beat that Humans tour?
Anyway.
Yeah, humans.
Um, tough act follow.
Sex, murder and party.
He's seen that live just broke my brain, you know.
Yeah.
To be fair, live, it wasn't so bad.
They had to basically design a new song.
Yeah.
From the ground up to make it presentable.
What they were thinking, I don't know, man.
Sex murder did he party?
If only he's...
fucking featured on that song.
Gorilla's feet diddy.
Yeah.
Mumbo Bumbo says
which subject did you struggle the most
with at school?
French.
French was tough. We went
to a language college, so you had to do a language.
Yeah. I did French. But I just
figured out a way to cheat.
I just wrote the answers
on a piece of paper
and put it, like, in my open back
page and just to the right
and just copy it
could you do that like in the exam
in the hall I didn't think
you were allowed to buy um I don't remember
having to go into the hall for a French
oh okay I did
I really like listening exams and shit
in the hall I remember doing a speaking exam
the thing is I just didn't care because I was like
well I guess I
will never go to France
like fuck that place
how wrong I was
um
yeah
what about
if you're going to Africa, you might need it.
Well, I'll just go to one of the ones,
one of the places we colonize.
Um,
what did I struggle with?
Religious studies?
Really? I, I've, I fucking sailed through that.
Well, I did okay on the coursework, because I literally,
and I'm not exaggerating copy and pasted
Wikipedia pages.
I got a B.
That's such fucking bullshit, because I actually put,
I, like, went for it.
I mean, I didn't, like,
that much of it.
I tried when I was
like doing the exams and stuff
and I got a C
and that was off the dome
so
so in a way
like I did better than you say
that's such fucking bullshit
yeah I remember
fair like smart
smart
I guess we
they weren't enough
other people doing that
for them to catch it
for somehow
you invented it
you came up with
that strategy
like did he see that crazy
video going around
of that dude who'd graduated
and at his graduation
he turns his laptop around
and he's just flexing chat
GPT and he's like
yeah
fuck sake
yeah
um
this is what happens
when like
you have education
for the sake
of like
getting a
certificate
yeah
it's like not actually about
getting educated
yeah i don't know how much you're retaining but um i also struggled with like physics
really yeah see i found physics fucking piss
not true i did once it would get like theoretical to me then i'm like
i can look at a bug you know yeah i can look at a plant biology i struggle with because it's
so fucking boring why it's awesome oh make sure you remember the difference between
Floem and Xylem.
Zylam brings water through the plant.
Flowem brings food and nutrients.
It's like...
See you...
Look.
Well, yeah, but that's just because I've remembered it.
It's fucking boring to just sit...
No, it's fire.
And the teacher's just like,
here's a bunch of facts.
It's like, just put on V-source, dude.
It's boring as hell.
There's no, like, working anything out.
With biology.
With chemistry, you get the, like...
the chemical equations which are fucking hard I struggled with like chemical
equations yeah I think they're tricky and in physics like I love the
mechanics at a level I got like a B in the mechanics exam everything else I did
fucking shit because like wave particle duality what the fuck is what the fuck are you
talking about the like double slit experiment where like photons or electrons
or something are being fired through like a double slit and then sometimes it
comes out one side sometimes it comes out another and then if like you're looking at it it hits
the middle or something it's it's like this quantum shit where it when you're looking at a thing
it behaves differently because you're looking at it whereas if you're not looking at it it behaves
yeah yeah i've heard about that i don't understand but it's something it's crazy um and like
i don't know i i was like into attack on titan at the time so that was my
most like important thing.
So you know when someone's like talking to you about something and you lose track?
Yeah. Oh, definitely.
But in a classroom setting, you have so much freedom to like check out.
Oh, yeah.
Because especially at the school we went to when it was like 90 kids in like a five square meter room.
Yeah.
So when the teachers at the front like lecturing, you can just check.
out and just like imagine a fight scene from attack on time yeah that's when i do my doodling yeah yeah
yeah i just totally tracked out and just like i'm lost whatever and like i i was like quite
socially anxious as well so i wouldn't put my hand up and be like what the fuck are you talking about
yeah you know some kids would but you're trying again in english yeah yeah yeah my thing was like
if i wasn't naturally gifted in it then i just wouldn't give yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
so i could just like coast with like english and stuff like that well yeah i i coasted through like
the gccc's and then a level where it actually required effort i was like that oh yeah what have
i got myself into yeah yeah and like i didn't give a shit about anything either at the time
yeah yeah i did like a level maths like a whole year crazy um like physics is hard but a level maths
it's at least physics the the crazy theoretical stuff like has a basis in like a physical thing right like maths becomes just so it's just like these algorithms and like numbers and shit yeah i don't remember a fucking thing yeah outside of like the cartoon like it was it was distracting to the point where this teacher i had was the most cartoonish man i think to this day i
I've ever seen he was like straight out of like the Simpsons or something he was like six
foot four and was like the most stoic deadpan like flat delivery but so fucking funny was this
at fart and purlish yeah right it was it was just bizarre like to a point where like I could
hardly pay attention because it was like this is brilliant right like this man exists watching
his bit yeah yeah but like he wasn't trying to be
funny but that made it funnier yeah you know yeah yeah yeah and then I had the
inverse problem because I did maths and history um where like my my history
teacher teacher is someone who like had just finished uni and was like so
attractive like no one could bear attention yeah yeah it was like well this is
fucked.
See, my, one of my chemistry teachers was a bit like that.
And the, the other one was like, was dating my friend's mum at the time.
So it was like, oh, shit.
Oh, this is, yeah, it was quite.
He was partially why I, I didn't learn any chemistry.
Yeah.
Because his style was just like, weird.
He valued being cool above, like, anything else, I think.
yeah um and yeah that whole dynamic of like i'd been to my friend's house where like he had just
been yeah and like at one point we found um me me and my friend were in his mum's room and we found like a
sex dice where it's like you roll the dice and it's like suck and it'll be like kiss or like
yeah
and he was like living there
and it was like what the fuck
and then years later
I hit like 17 and I'm
I go into this classroom and it's him
and I'm like oh fuck
there's so much baggage going into that
cause
yeah super fucking weird dynamic
yeah very uncomfortable
um
hmm
well
Well, yeah, I guess in hindsight, I wish I'd just done physics out of all the sciences.
I think if I'd have done physics, like physics, music, and, like, keep ICT, because
that was just...
Playtime.
Yeah, it was playtime.
I'd, like, turn up late to school, like, halfway through an ICT lesson, and then just
sit down and, like, read articles about Dong Noguian.
Fucking flappy bird.
I want to hurt.
I want to hurt.
Yeah. Yeah. I think we had the same ICT teacher who like, he was so laissez-faire. He was just like building his R2D2PC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was living it up. But that encouraged me to actually do well, though. To some reason.
Yeah, like, the best I did was in IT.
Yeah. But like, none of my coursework got checked, so it was fine.
They'd roll the sex die and ran the person to be chasing.
seven-day coursework yet.
But that is how it works.
But, like, it was also so easy.
Whereas, like, you could just crank it out in, like, two days of actual work.
So I guess, like, uh, Michael Gove's ICT syllabus would have been, like,
save a word document with an underlined title.
Yeah.
That's like the whole coursework.
Yeah.
Make a PowerPoint with it.
least three slides.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe an animated, like, title coming in.
Yeah.
Brough.
Um,
Big Lad Luke says,
what do you guys think is the cringiest year?
I've got an answer.
I'm curious if you have the same answer.
The cringiest year?
Yeah.
Like of all time.
Yeah.
because I think
I think it's hard to beat
2020
how do you beat that
I don't know
just find out when the black
IPs were most popular
that's the cringest year
Madagascar too
yeah true
no he slapped in that
that's his best song
Alex has lost
to whatever it's good
yeah
that's a chin
I've watched that movie
that movie just for the plane scene
and Alex dancing
mm-hmm you know
when he proves how much of a man he is
by being gay true
strangely progressive
yeah yeah yeah yeah um
hell yeah no
2020 what happened in 2020
COVID COVID no
wasn't cringy that was just like
no no I think more
how
it truly marks I guess a point
point for me where just no one can agree on anything like yeah
information realities just useless yeah data is now defunct like it doesn't matter
anymore it's like yeah it's a vibes based whatever it's like whatever you feel is
yeah if someone with a high quality enough camera says something then it's real yeah
like that's they say it with enough conviction yeah yeah yeah yeah you
even if they just say they're like some sort of professional then yeah i thought this was quite an
interesting one from uh rank the dank bear bear alexander and james's bob dillon jarling here
you've recently read and rated the quotes of philosophers nietzsche and kama camus but how about
some lyrics and quotes from the greatest songwriter of the 20th century
I've assembled some lyrics from the various Bob Dylan song spanning across his lifelong career.
Some of these will be familiar to you already, I'm sure.
Please take pleasure in rating them, if you will.
Okay, so are we doing CBT?
CBT, yeah.
Cpt.
C-B-T.
What was it, cringed-based?
Tough.
Tough, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
He's not busy being born, is busy dying.
he not busy being born is busy dying
really again
he not busy being born is busy dying
don't me to do my Bob Dylan
be that busy babe
when you do the voice
it's based otherwise cringe
you don't need a weatherman
to know which way the wind blows
that's tough that's tough
god that's crazy tough
the first one I feel like you need more context
from the song
so it's cringe
that one was tough
all the truth
in the world adds up to one big
lie
oh
fuck
tough
dude
um
let's
Mona Lisa must have had the highway
blues you can tell by the way she smiles
I go based
with that one
it's not cringe
but it's not tough either
I was so much older then.
I'm younger than that now.
Based.
Yeah.
Behind every beautiful thing, there's been some kind of pain.
That's tough.
Yeah, that is tough.
Dude, Bob Dylan's the modern...
He's the best one yet.
He's the best philosopher yet.
God damn.
And there's more.
No one is free.
Even the birds are chained to the sky.
Wow.
That's tough.
how's he done this
this is actually crazy
steal a little
and they throw you in jail
steal a lot and they make you king
oh
let's go
yeah tough
that might be the toughest
that's incredible
um
the sun is not yellow
it's chicken
the sun is chicken
the sun is not yellow it's chicken
okay uh i'll go based
it's not cringe
it's definitely not cringe
to live outside the law
you must be honest
based
oh no tough
I'd say that's tough
that's tough yeah
businessmen
they drink my
wine, plowman, dig my earth. None of them along the line know what any of it is worth.
Businessmen, they drink my wine. Plowman dig my earth. None of them along the line know what any of it is worth.
Baste.
Baste.
That's based.
Three more.
Money doesn't talk. It swears.
Mm, cringe
Yeah
It's a bit cringy
Maybe in context
Yeah, I, yeah
Money doesn't talk
It's swell
Uh
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Tah
That's tough
That's from Wiggle Wiggle
Wiggle 1990
Last one
You don't need no wax job. You're smooth enough for me.
Read again.
You don't need no wax job. You're smooth enough for me.
Cringe.
Yeah. Some of those are wild.
Yeah, he's the toughest yet.
Slow train coming. I'll be round.
under band
I love him
right
let's do a couple more here
so you round down this episode
or something
heat wave MF says
just been diagnosed as infertile
meaning my nuts hollow and empty
devoid of life
my question to you is
what do you think makes popular charts music so
hollow empty and devoid of like
like my nuts
is it lack of inspiration
the use of common chord progressions and melodies, overproduction,
or is there a soul-like essence within certain pieces of music
that allow them, Tom evoke such strong emotion,
despite the abstraction and lack of tangibility,
or am I just a contrarian that won't engage in good faith with music just because it's popular?
Especially curious as to what the music theorist, Jim, thinks of this.
The music theorist, piss off.
It's vibes
It's vibes based
It's Blaine
You can feel it
You can feel it when
I don't want my Goochie's own
I don't want no
Louie if we're talking
Was that Bob Dylan?
Yeah
Tough tough
Yeah we got to do a Megan Trainick
Yeah
She'll be the toughest of them all
yeah when you hear some shit like that
and it's got the like
the bouncy fucking bass
like it makes it
no trouble
just off the vibes alone
it's like
from the production
you can tell that it's it's like
overproduced
it's too clean
way too clean
from the lyrics
you can tell that it's it's like
Like, what's it called when, it's like means tested.
It's like means tested.
Yeah, they like get some people in and they're like, do you resonate with these words or these words more?
Right, right, right.
And they've had the, oh man, I know what you're trying to say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, like one name things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and it's a vibe.
But if what they're saying has no nuance, like, I get fucking sick of songs that are like,
they're just regurgitating a feeling that's been regurgitated a million times, you know?
Like, the reason I like LoRour is because they'll spend a whole song, like, expressing a really particular feeling, right?
That's, like, specific to that.
and you can feel that that nuance in that whereas like if it's if it's bents and boon
like screaming and doing flips about like just general stuff there's like no specificity where yeah
it has to be broad enough it can't be that personal because then it it's too alienating yeah
yeah it's it's got to be music that's like i've got skin and eyes well like the
imagine dragon approach where it's like everything has a big like anthem yeah yeah yeah
like hollow and empty about it like it's just sounds big yeah yeah yeah it's not backed up by
anything and yeah um that that muse song kind of pisses me off the um
they
yeah
it's like faux punk
it's like the
aestheticization
of a grand movement
it's like you're making
the sound of a movement
but it means nothing
they
like they
who are they
you know it's got to be broad
so your version of they
can be mapped onto it
yeah so it could be an anthem
for like
a hardcore left wing uprising or it could be the anthem for a hardcore right wing uprising
it could be an anthem for a hardcore centrist uprising like it's so unspecific that
they're kind of saying nothing um in a I mean it with that that muse song I can respect it a bit
more because I guess you could argue they're like capturing just that yeah I actually like that
song I think it's a well-made song yeah like the it's it's I guess more more lyrically I don't
really respect it it's yeah it's like it's like when I was like a teenager I twiged on
that like oh if you'd like just include something to like the word revolution and
running and yeah yeah stuff is like kind of a bit of a hack to just make it sound like big and
important. Mm-hmm. And it's, it's, yeah, it's like cheating. It's the kind of shit you hear on
Radio 1 and it's like, they're just saying a whole lot of nothing. They have, I feel like
there's a responsibility and even if they're saying something that I don't agree with,
like say it. Like, you're in a position, you're, you're positioned where everyone is going
to hear you. So fucking say something. Say something of value.
you don't just say like that's risky and hard yeah yeah well it's i guess it's people who do say things
are less likely to get into that position because it's less marketable i guess um so the conclusion
i guess is that if if the motivation is marketability then your art is diminished somewhat yeah
i'm i'm okay with like i call it mars bar music um
I'm okay with it
existing sometimes. Like
do you know that song Eidamami?
No.
By
Baby, baby, baby money, money, baby boy.
Oh, baby no money? Yeah.
Right.
You have heard it.
But yeah, probably.
Where he's like,
I'm wearing a chain and it costs a lot
and booty.
I fucking hate that shit.
Yeah, I don't, I would never say it's like
great music.
but I'm fine with it existing just like a Marsba existing so eating a
mazbo it's like empty calories um sometimes I don't I just like it I
don't respect it I don't like sometimes there's sometimes there's time for that
sometimes there is I I don't like I don't like anything that like values that
sort of shit I don't like materialism it's it's like so in all
music it feels um just like i've i've got all the money and i've got i've got it depends
to me it how much they lean into the sense of humor because like yeah but it like
when it's raggedocious when it's uh part of like a character or like i don't know i'd say like
some early kane stuff feels that way or uh some of charlie xex feels that way too where it's like
so over the top and comedic and like leaning into it and it's so kind of absurd
absurd there's something
I like about that because it knows what it is
but like Kanye back in the day explicitly
spoke out against like
he he would talk about how
vapid he felt and how he
kind of hated
yeah because there was more to he would still brag about being a
billionaire but there would also
be like more personal
like it could only be him coming from
him type lyricism yeah and
like it would
through the album maybe it would
be more fleshed out but when
I don't know if
like baby no money
like can definitely make a catchy song
yeah but I don't I don't see baby
no money saying anything of any value ever
like that's in the lyricism yeah
yeah and and then it's like
it just feels like a waste to me
you know and he's he's come out and explicitly said
a bunch of the lyrics
are literally like meaningless
they don't make sense
their algorithm tuned
yeah
yeah and like I don't respect that
I don't either
but like you like
oh what's he called
fuck
he released an album recently
you know he dressed up as like the devil
and like pissed off
puritanical Christians
um
oh um
Lil Nas
yeah
yeah
like he did the exact same thing
But, like, you're not going to say it's not, like, a fun banger, some of these songs.
I guess...
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think...
I think he's saying way more.
I think that, like, being a flamboyantly gay rapper is a pretty great statement.
Yeah.
I think that's, like, a good movement.
But it's still like a Mars bar song
But like the way it's positioned within like
What he means in the media landscape
Is more important than a baby no money
Like some
Yeah I wouldn't disagree with that
And so I like him more than your baby
But like there are definitely some
I guess
Not all music needs to be like
A hugely
That's more why I'm getting at
I feel like there's a space for that and there's a space for like the clash or whatever.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think when the thing the majority of pop stars are singing about is like having a bunch of money and...
Yeah, it's encouraging something bad.
Well, yeah, it's it's like making a nasty cycle where it's like that it's reinforcing values that we shouldn't, we should be moving away from that stuff.
It's like the opposite of progressive.
I see it as kind of like,
like it's right wing.
It's, um,
like,
uh,
I don't want to say propaganda,
because it's not propaganda.
Um,
but it's,
it's reinforcing,
what I feel to be poor ideals.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah,
I don't know.
It's,
it's curious to me because things,
like I just mentioned,
the clash I don't think people are even thinking about the lyricism and are playing it like
mars bar music almost at a point it's like been so diluted yeah when they're playing like the
casbah they're not thinking about the lyrics at all they just like london calling or any of it yeah
you're totally right and I suppose in a sense um to commercialize like if it it's almost more
contradictory to be positioned in like a position of like wealth and power and you do have
all the cars and the chains and stuff and to act like you don't i don't know it's it's like a
catch-22 because i just want some self-awareness i want some cleverness uh huh yeah um
there is still a distinction there between that and that stuff you hear when you're in
McDonald's or whatever and it's like oh for sure seems like it was like it's what you would have
called AI music before AI music was like possible yeah like well I think like benson boone or
whatever the fuck his name is who is this he's the backflip they're like please yeah oh that
song he's wonderful and whenever he performs he like does a backflip of a grand piano
god I've had that song so many times against my will he's he's released like more shit music
recently and it's it's like that that that is mcdonald's music and it's trash fucking
totally vapid worthless mcdonald's music yeah but that's what i mean it's like but
you're still gonna go and eat your macdonald's fries you know what i mean yeah i guess
yeah i don't know i i i feel like a snob sometimes um hmm which
it's probably kind of true
but I also think that
maybe people should be more
snobby. We should
like
we should value
value values
and
statements you know
it's like
people just enjoy these things in such a myriad different
ways. Yeah um
if a
if a
if edamami comes on in a
club or whatever, people are going to, like, have loads of fun.
Is Edamami ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-da-
No, no, it's, uh...
Because he did that one, right?
I think, um-lun-dum-d-d-l-lub-lub-lub-dud-da-da-da-do-do-do-do-do-do-dha.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying, though, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, like, our mum, for example, she says, when she listens to songs, she doesn't even listen to the lyrics, which to me, which to me,
was like insane yeah and like we haven't even talked about like um instrumental stuff like which is
just as valuable um this it's just like the the capacity for music to be moving for a film to be
moving or like to check it like i've had experiences with music movies video games that like
change my entire perception on like the world and how I feel about things and like my
morals like I yeah Deadpool 2 yeah I like I just the trailer for Deadpool v Wolverine
um they but it's it's why I get so passionate and fucking cringy about Deadpool pissing me off
like you have so much that you could do to like change the hearts of my
in people
um but we we just we just want
fucking we want to see
Wolverine fight Deadpool
yeah and yeah I guess like
there should be space for that but you
you can also do more with it
you know
yeah
Mr Bastard's new record is
co-labbing with Benson Boone
yeah Mr Bastard
and Benson Boone
Hard
There's one
Please
Shut up
There's one more
I want to end on
Which is kind of
continuation of this
Bebe
Chial
Love to hear in your chat
About learning music on the last episode
I'm a private guitar teacher
And hearing jimbus
Talking about how sleep makes a huge
difference with learning
Is something I preached
all my students. Working with younger students usually, my biggest concern is always that they
have fun and enjoy playing the instrument first and foremost. I always try to get my students to
choose songs that they like to listen to learn, like Edomami, because it makes so much more
enjoyable to figure out. Honestly, doing this line of work, I've learned that consistent, mindful
practice is the key to learning just about anything. Keep it up, Beast. I'm rooting for you
and your piano journey. Also, hearing that AI song, I figured I'd recommend a song I wrote almost two
years ago with somebody's
who've never heard of JAR. I managed to
sneak a couple of references in and
now we all say pep pop pooi
bear bear and sum sing
all the time or something. I've been listening
since 2016 fellas. Huge
thanks for being a consistent source of
enjoyment and comfort over the years absolutely
froth your work.
No, I've heard that one before. Let's go.
Awesome. Awesome.
You put a link to it so I play the
bit.
Spotterpo.
It's called Edomami by Bing Bing No Money.
This is Maritime Savoy by the Houseboat Tapes.
Let's go.
Where's the bit?
Where is it?
Name is Roy. He's my best friend. And you better believe it. I know it's hard for you to
conceive it. Pimpop boy, Easter boy, Marriams, Savoy, Pimpa, boy. You see what I mean?
Like, music can say so much.
That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's some great fucking music.
That's some good show right there. So don't copyright claim us, please. But, uh, yeah,
shit yeah another musical kind of fine mm hmm you could sort of say we're like the
the busiest music nerds kind of maybe the second busiest I might quit music
boring boring hell divers is more fun yeah how does the hell divers theme go
Buh, bha-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-h-ha- No, it doesn't go like that.
What the fuck was that?
That was the amazing Spider-Man T theme.
How does it actually go?
You got to get some dubstep in there.
Because I've got the Apex theme stuck in my head now.
No, no, no, no, no.
Wait, kind of fire.
That theme is kind of fire.
How does it actually go?
Ode to Liberty?
A cup of...
I remember it now.
Yeah, let's see if I can do it on this.
it's something like that
did you see the um i i saw
it was like um
you know in america they have like the band
yeah yeah big band um it was like some assembly
and they snuck in the howdy was theme
with the big bands like the horns and stuff
that's really fucking sick
yeah did you see that animation going around
of someone um putting master chief
in helldivers.
No.
It's like this crazy elaborate animation.
And it just got me like one note on the piano.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like the most hype thing ever.
Bam, bum, bum.
I genuinely think that's 80% of what makes eight Lord is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, could you imagine if it had some like Amazing Spider-Man 2 type beat?
Ferrell.
Spooky, scary, I'm sorry.
The water are coming.
Yeah.
I hope you enjoyed.
I'm gonna kind of shit myself.
I'm kind of going to give myself a shit.
Poohannaway dash fart.
Burp with a hint of poo
Fart with a burp
with a hint of poo
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha
