JAR Media Posdact - The Passionate Napper - JARCAST Episode 203

Episode Date: February 10, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good afternoon, morning, evening, or night, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to episode 203 of the JARCast. I'm your host Alex, joined as always by James. Uh, James. And, uh, Jamie over there. Howdy? How you do, partner? Uh, noon. Before we delve into the interesting.
Starting point is 00:00:30 intricacies of the show I'd like to first off thank those on iTunes who rate us 5 star very important to the algorithms and all of that and the support on Spotify and any way you listen
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Starting point is 00:00:55 we've been fairly consistent this must be the most consistent thing I've ever done is this very podcast for 200 with ease three episodes or something I've had jobs that have gone on less than this podcast many years many years five long years we've got some stuff to talk about today
Starting point is 00:01:19 and do we do as we always do as time is completely unrelenting and we'll just not stop will not give us a single chance to honestly just have a think. Do you ever ponder about that? Yeah, the time always lasts the longest when you don't want it to and vice versa. Right, so when you're having a whale of the time, you know. Yeah, it goes really fast.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It's that famous phrase. If you love whales and you love time, then your time will probably go fairly quickly. I often think about it when I'm lying in bed, like when I've woken up for an early morning. I'm like I wish time would just give me another hour but it won't I've got time yeah see that's the weird thing
Starting point is 00:02:05 when I like when I'm in the morning because I'm one of those who kind of gets up like 6.30 odd I'm kind of up from then so you're a cretan that's what you're saying I'm a cretan
Starting point is 00:02:15 you're a creep I'm a creep that's a bit too far basically you know I get up super early body clock and all and then I need to get out of bed like half hour later. Those half hours
Starting point is 00:02:27 the most blissful time ever because those moments of in and out of sleep literally last hours but they don't. You mean in your head they figuratively last hours. I know what you mean
Starting point is 00:02:40 and that's what you want but it doesn't like give you sleep energy you know? No it straighter gives me sleep energy. Well it doesn't give me sleep energy. Isn't it not like a placebo thing where you're like, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Nice. No, but if it's in your head, then that's good. Even if you're thinking it's a placebo thing and you feel more energized. What? You are. But then I'm... If you feel more energized than you are.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I'm a few years ahead of everyone and I actually sleep in my car at lunch. So then I have more energy because I use my time. How? How? This... Is it not really uncomfortable? Everyone who I say this to freaks out of it. So, you know, you're losing it. You know, you're working an eight hour day, and in that you've got an hour break.
Starting point is 00:03:30 An hour is quite a lot of time to do nothing when you're doing that long of a day. So what's the point of just spending that time, you know, sitting at a table or on your phone? Go to sleep. When do you eat, then? I get to my car, and I use the first 10 minutes to eat, and then I sleep. You stuff your cheeks like a hamster, and then you lie there slowly chewing and sleeping. Smart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:53 because it doesn't know it's the most effective way an efficient way to use your day because when you get home you don't have to go to bed as early so you can have more time in the evening to do what you need to do get up at the same time you're just using that hour that you would do nothing productive
Starting point is 00:04:10 to be productive so you're a passionate napper the passionate napper I'm a passionate napper in borderlands if you're first introduced it would go James, the passionate napper.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And there's actually, you know, some fact behind this. Explain. Let's just say you're having a really bad day. You know, you've come in on a Thursday, you've been hit by the really tight deadlines, loads of work, and you're stressed. What are you going to do with that stress? You're just, you're going to let it festering your head all day
Starting point is 00:04:46 until the end of day, and you're probably going to drag it home. So why bother with that when you can just get through the main part and then in that hour you've got to which you'd rather spend angrily eating food sleep. Why angrily? Because if you're stressed you're going to be like
Starting point is 00:05:03 oh yes yes so what's the point in that when you can sleep get a good amount of nap go in for the last four hours of the day and you'd be fully energized to not be stressed it's a better way of life
Starting point is 00:05:20 James sounds like one of those you tube advert guys They're like Hi guys Don't close this ad Yeah I saw one of those Do you want to be more efficient in life
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah I saw one of those It's like There's a common misconception That to be successful It takes a lot of hard work That's just wrong Like yeah This guy is making
Starting point is 00:05:43 100,000 pounds a day From his home Yeah One of those Filling surveys out Yeah And sleeping in his car
Starting point is 00:05:52 no but honestly it's helped me just you know deal with stressful days of it better because I can go in a bit not as stressed anything to recharge
Starting point is 00:06:02 yeah and it means that I can go I can just play video games longer and it's worked for me so I don't know it might work for you not video games
Starting point is 00:06:10 Call of Duty Call of Duty Last episode we talked about snakes as pets We did Um, a topic we were, particularly I, I think, was quite fascinated in the, uh, realistic kind of implication of.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Snaked. Um, we had a few listeners, um, report back, a few snake owners out there. Is there like a certain name for the snake owner? The snakey owner? I'm not all over there. Uh, yes. Slytherin? I've heard that.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah, slithering. Yeah, so a few Slytherins wrote in, gave us some feedback. Um. one at, mumbo bumbo, uh, wrote in with this to say. I've kept snakes for over five years now, corn snakes, ball pythons and hog noses, and I was very happy to hear the snakes discussion on episode 202. As snakes don't produce body heat, they need to keep themselves warm using an external source. Think basking under the sun.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Human body heat works well for this, so a snake would happily sit on a human's lap to keep warm and hold onto their arm, as James was saying I personally keep snakes as I'm very interested in herpetology is that right herpentine toology but they have other purposes
Starting point is 00:07:33 see I'm the one that always has to read everything so I'm the one who always looks like a fool for like struggling on obvious scientific words nobody's laughing at you for struggling on herpetology I saw the way you looked at me and it delved deep in I was thinking of herp Adirp, the old internet shit. So that's nothing
Starting point is 00:07:53 to do with you reading funny words. Herpentine theology. But I personally keep snakes as I'm interested in herpetology. But they have other purposes. For example, the pheromones produced by steaks are a natural rodent repellent. So that was, we brought that up briefly. Dude? That's quite good.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I really like how simple they are. I don't want to pet that barks and runs around all the time all I have to do is give them a mouse slash rat once a week which I both frozen and defrost and make sure temperatures are right and they always have fresh water see
Starting point is 00:08:33 they aren't super high maintenance you feed them once a week don't you find that quite weird though that people have like mice and rats as pets but you can also buy the same animal as food for a different that you keep in the freezer yeah yeah like a bag of chicken nuggets
Starting point is 00:08:53 but it's a bag of fucking frozen rats little mice yeah I still I still don't think let's say I've been convinced that for someone like myself I would have interested in the miracles of a snake
Starting point is 00:09:09 pet but I can see the appeal I quite like the feeling of fur though um snakes feel quite nice at the very least. But it's not the same like when you're tickling behind a dog's ear and their...
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah, because we've got them a mammalian sort of respect. Mammalian respect. So do you respect bears? I respect them by fearing them immensely. Would you scratch a bear behind the ear? No. I would hope I would never be close enough to a bear's ear
Starting point is 00:09:43 to be able to scratch it. But bears are really interesting as well because they, much like dogs, can, like, grow super attached to people. And I was like, there's this one, like, bear in World War I that was just, like, in the platoon. And it was just like... World War I. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Used to carry shells and, like, fight people and shit. Christ. On the subject of wats, actually, in my office at home, there was this really weird smell. Really kind of... I can't describe how bad this smell was. It was fucking disgusting.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Like rotting corpse kind of smell? And for ages I started to smell it and I was like this don't smell white and then my parents picked up on it
Starting point is 00:10:27 so he went through the entire fucking room and I just couldn't find a single thing and for the last like month I'd notice that guys I'd always go to this corner of the womb and would constantly
Starting point is 00:10:37 sniff obviously my stupid mind didn't think didn't connect the two for ages and you know those plug sockets you can get like ones where you put cables through if you're going to wire them on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah, a wat called behind that died. So this hole was just opening the room with the fucking scent of a dying wat, just filling the womb. How rotten was it? We haven't seen. We just like, okay, seal it. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Too scared. That's what I'd do, to be fair. No, because it was obviously behind the wall. Oh. Because it was obviously in part of houses you have that kind of like corner where all the pipes from going upstairs.
Starting point is 00:11:16 So it was in that. Yeah. I don't know how it obviously it went from outside. But then I just didn't notice that Gaius was sniffing it constantly. Yeah. And you know, and that snake in the first face, I wouldn't have happened. I guarantee you there's a rat somewhere within these very walls. Potentially, I hope not.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Just one, no, they say, don't they? Like, you're never more than 10 metres away from a rat when you're home. Yeah, I think that's probably correct. They're just vermin that squirm around. Why you buy a cat or a Gaius or a snake? Yeah. So something huge has happened. Oh?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Something, I honestly wasn't planning on even engaging in or even watching, to be honest. If I'm being totally honest. But a trailer for a certain movie has dropped. And that's, you know, that happens very often. And we, as movie people, you know, like the watch trailer. Well, this is 2020. I mean, like, big blockbusters are a dime a dozen. It tastes something a little bit out of ordinary.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Something special to be worthy of being brought up on the jar cast for one reason or another. But this movie that is coming out in particular is, it goes by the name of, um, it's one of those kind of not really well-known kind of indie kind of movies. Not many people have heard of. It's called Fast 9. It's like a foreign film. the ninth in the the fast series or something
Starting point is 00:12:49 I'm sort of new to it myself um that's a lie okay you got me I couldn't help it I'm a you love it you love it
Starting point is 00:13:03 we all know what's up we all know the score fast and furious we all know the family we are the family you're once once you discover the family that is the first and furious
Starting point is 00:13:14 franchise, even if you can't stand it, you still feel part of that family. Just like, you know, like a real estranged family. Yeah. You know, like you, it's there, it exists. And you're either with it or not. And I'd like to add that I, I'm a part
Starting point is 00:13:30 of the family. Ever since I was a little boy, I've watched every single Fast and Furious movie. Yeah. Multiple times. It's almost like I'll stick with me on this, but it's almost more of a creed. It's kind of a creed that, like, it's like, you know, YouTube is called their fans, you know, cringy titles.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah. Our old channel, we used to say, welcome family. Yeah, welcome back, family. Indicating that those listening and engaging were like family to us. And it's, in a sense, that's what the Fast and Furious franchise has done. That's what it's all about. I don't know what the point of, what I was just talking about really was,
Starting point is 00:14:16 aside from the fact that we watched the new trailer for the, for, it's called Fast 9. There's no consistency to the like naming. No. Because it was Fast 5. Yeah. The second one was Too Fast, Too Furious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:30 The third one was Tokyo Triff, just Fast and Furious. But then there's Furious Seven, right? Yeah. Like the seven one isn't, yeah. It's just called Furious, seven. Right? Am I wrong? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And then what was eight called? just the eight I don't even know but the thing of Fast and Furious is everyone from the car group everyone loves Fast and Furious it's the way a lot of people got into it but it's now
Starting point is 00:14:58 you look at the first one and then you look at what it is now I've never known a movie to constantly up itself constantly it's like power creep but in movies yeah you know
Starting point is 00:15:11 it's like it's jumping the they jump the show so many movies ago that they have to keep finding new sharks to jump over new things that are more and more impressive as they go along well impressive in quotation marks we obviously watched um one of the worst fast and furious films hobbs and shore last year that turned out to be yeah i don't know where it would rank to be honest that one it's better than eight because what's so let's let's briefly say the ones we like and the ones we don't because in my mind um The most entertaining one is probably seven for me, in my mind. The last one of Paul Walker. Yeah. And honestly, one of my least favorite ones is eight. I've found that one so difficult to sit through just for the boring factor.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's got one good scene. Yeah, the baby plane fight scene is the only kind of humorous, kind of fun sequence in the whole movie. There's a semi-decent prison escape, I think, as well, with Jason Stacey. of but that just blends into Hobson Shore, isn't it? It's like the same Yeah, it's just a shame because Jason Statham is great
Starting point is 00:16:23 but he's always paired up with the rock who sucks Yeah, the rock is terrible in all of them Vin Diesel's terrible in all of them Jason Statham is awesome in all of them that he's in and the other ones kind of just have a couple of funny things about them
Starting point is 00:16:40 like the, is it far six or five where Vin D'EZE or like jumps like that's five right it's five yes like the first moment they become like actual superheroes that was the first jump shark moment he jumps for building if that's no no but fast four had isn't four the one with the safe no fast five that's five it's the same you haven't seen four yeah okay i haven't seen four so is five the real jump the shark yes that's the bank bouncing around yes and the first one with the rocket I think yes that's right okay it's all coming back to me There's been slightly funny moments, but the funny, the slightly humorous moments never make up for the stuff in between.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, because they're normally really boring. That's their biggest crime, I reckon. Yeah. It's like so much of it, it's just so boring. What's lame to me, though, is that, like, when I saw ads for, like, the first two, I thought it was like for car people, you know? Yeah, that's what I always assumed it was. Yeah. So, like, why did they just drop that?
Starting point is 00:17:43 Because it's not about... Because now it's just like... It's like an action movie. I don't understand it. Because you had the first one that was just like... It was committing crimes, but it was the fun... It was basically about racing each other in modified cars. Hence why it became so popular,
Starting point is 00:18:00 the hence why it's got so much influence. Second one was like... Kind of racing again. That's the really homerotic one, isn't it? Yeah. With Tyrese and ludicrous. Then you got the third one, which was like the...
Starting point is 00:18:13 The deviation, it's like the offspring of Fast and Fear is Tokyo Drift, which back... The changing point of the series. Back when it came out, drifting was still new, and now it's huge. Everyone knows drifting, it's massive. Yeah. They haven't gone back to that one. That's still dead, which doesn't make sense to me. Then you had, they rebooted the series after the failure of Tokyo Drift.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah. And that's when they started becoming more action-packed. That's a good point, probably, yeah. And then, then it jumped the shark at 5 when it was just like, okay, then. that's it and since then it's just gone it's getting increasingly absurd more absurd as it goes along
Starting point is 00:18:49 with the main one of the main things of note that is like just really funny to me is how it kind of has that star was problem where the more things they introduce the more they feel the need to like tie everything together so in this new one they tease that John Sina plays Vin Diesel's brother
Starting point is 00:19:08 in the movie which is like so such a funny idea to me how they've gone nine movies and never mentioned that he had a brother that was like a super spy. It's so funny to me. It makes me think of like G.I.G. Or like something's really corny like that. I think they didn't mention his brother briefly in the first one.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Really? Dom had family, like actual family, not the fucking Fars and Farrant Fier's family. You see his extended family, of course, in the Netflix animated series. Yep. I'd recommend checking out if you've got... We're actually deep
Starting point is 00:19:40 like Fars and Furious fans. This is the first on Furious podcast, but, yeah, so Fast 9 is coming out. And it looks awesome. No, I'm kind of, there's one thing you've got point out. They tease right at the end, the return of a character who is confirmed dead in the one seven. This is twice. They've killed a major character and had like the story of one of the movies majorly anchor around a character being killed. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And then... The one before Fast Five is the one with Dom's girlfriend or whatever. dying. That is the whole thing to the next two movies is about that kind of. And then they just undo it because they just show her death scene from a different angle and it was actually like, oh no, she was fine. Yeah, but she
Starting point is 00:20:24 lost her memory. Yeah, she got amnesia from it, but otherwise she was fine. And they're going to do the exact thing of different angle for the new one as well. I'm actually like, it's getting to like sore levels of like, this is so convoluted that part of the enjoyment is how
Starting point is 00:20:40 they're actually explaining. Like, just how any of this is even happening at this point. Didn't the actual director direct Saw? Yeah, you're right, there is a crossover. The guy who directed seven. Yeah, and Akron. Which is the best one. Directed the Saw, came up with Saw. But yeah, so
Starting point is 00:20:57 aside from characters just being brought back from the dead, which is just... Because they created that issue with, what's the British guy who we like, who's in those movies? Jason Stapha. Jason Statham.
Starting point is 00:21:13 They show that he was the guy who killed the Asian guy. Yeah. And that's why he was like a villain. And then it made it really weird that, like, Jason Statham was at the family barbecue with them, even though he was responsible for murdering one of their best friends. But now that's been undone. So it's not weird that it was there, kind of.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So the whole seventh movie is pointless, almost. It's all pointless. Let's not be around the bush. Each one is pointless once the sequel comes up. Yeah, but now, we're getting to a point now where they're coming up with action scenes that, like, you would see in a traditional movie, like, take Indiana Jones Temple of Doom, for example. There's the scene at the end with the bridge. There's like a whole action sequence with the bridge. Yeah, awesome action sequence.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. So they probably were like, oh yeah, remember that bridge scene from Indiana Jones? Imagine that. But with cars. So there's like a scene in the trailer for FastNheim where they're like, Jimonji swinging off like a rope from a bridge but on a car No it shows them driving up the
Starting point is 00:22:18 like this rope bridge as it's falling They're driving up it Yeah And then later on they like drive it into Off a cliff they drive off a cliff But they hit something at the perfect stray That it attaches to the front wheel And it fucking catapults them
Starting point is 00:22:34 Around a fucking cliff It's doing like a swinging like Jumanji does On the vines but in a car And, like, people make fun of video games for being, like, stupid and stuff. And then, like, a million, billion fucking people go and watch this stupid shit. It is, like, a dumb video game. Yeah. No, it's hilariously absurd.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And the trailer was making me crack up, which I don't remember happening for 8. Because 8 didn't really have, like, anything quite like that. It had the boring, like, snow, ice thing. That was crap. I don't think there was a giggle at eight. That was on seven. Because remember, the gimmick was the self-driving cars that were being controlled, which inherently is just kind of lame.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And isn't that the one where Vin Diesel is, like, in his own car? And they all go around him and shoot, like, cables into it and trap him. And then he, like, breaks out of it. Yeah. No, no. Watching that movie was why we ended up watching Valer. because Fast 8 was so boring That's right
Starting point is 00:23:42 That we paused We had it on in the background A really funny Valerian Yeah we were just watching Clips from Valerian on YouTube Because it was much more interesting Than watching Fast 8 Were you there with us when we're watching Fast 8?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yeah If there's Fast and Furious going down I'm probably watching it I don't have a James being there You might have left halfway through or something Yeah because I'm like even I'm bored of this shit I'm going to go on It was so bad
Starting point is 00:24:07 It's one of the it is really like unforgivably bad it still did really well people still like it do you have anything else to say about Fast 9 forward because I have one other I want to see it the cinema
Starting point is 00:24:24 we said this about Hobbs and sure and we actually went and had a great time in an awful cinema but Hobbs and Shore didn't have any trailer as funny as that no like it looked way worse What was, what was like a funnier trailer? It was showing them like sprinting down the side of a building and shit.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Like it looked so stupid. It did look really stupid, but not quite the same level as Fast 9 looks. No, because I think the problem with that was the only comic, comic relief was the wok and he's not funny. Yeah. While with at least this, the family, you've got some moments. Because the rock and Jason Statham are such superstars, they could just lean on them. I guess to carry it but I guess
Starting point is 00:25:10 Vin Diesel kind of is but he's got like no charisma yeah and you can barely tell what he's even saying is it Tyrese he makes them Tyrese
Starting point is 00:25:19 he makes them Tyrese and Ludacris has had some really funny moments at the fucking window yeah yeah but yeah on another note
Starting point is 00:25:30 I came up with a little why I discovered something which at first Jim didn't believe in fact he refused to believe it until um until i proved it to him and i'm curious what you think about this james as well um you know that you know the um switching to another franchise that just won't end um star wars yes because it has to be brought up do you know the character mace wind do samuel jackson sammy lord's characters
Starting point is 00:26:00 we've let me just to me the star was lightsaber everyone wanted as a kid yeah kick out's purple I'm so jealous when I saw kids with the purple. It's like owning a Lamborghini or mansion. It's like as soon as someone got that purple lightsaber, it's like... You know, apparently his prop had bad motherfucker engraved into his lightsaber.
Starting point is 00:26:23 No. No, genuine. But here's another bit of trivia. You ready for this? There was someone who was up for the role of Mace Windu who was very passionately wanted a role in the movie
Starting point is 00:26:41 and it might be someone you weren't expecting that being The Amama Tupac Tupac apparently genuinely apparently Tupac auditioned for the role
Starting point is 00:26:59 with Mace Windu but he was killed before the film was made Boah Imagine Tuvac is Mays Vindu It's like
Starting point is 00:27:11 The prequels are already So like Ripe with humour If Mace Windu Was Tupac Like everyone Like Samuel Jackson
Starting point is 00:27:20 But like If Mase Vindu was Tupac Not if a fake No Because it would just be too No Like
Starting point is 00:27:27 With Yoda sat next to him And fucking Yaddle in the background Tupac sat next to Yoda Just the idea of George Lucas directing Tupac is like so humorous. I guess that Tupac hologram is like a false ghost. Yeah, what if he was like to honor his death or whatever? He was like, we're going to break new grounds and CG Tupac into the role is windy.
Starting point is 00:28:00 That would have been... Oh, can you imagine that universe? Just imagine the serious political scenes, but Tupac's fucking saying them. The oppression of the Siff will never return. His most memorable line. Look at it up. There's an article about it, which I read that's very funny. Well, it started off...
Starting point is 00:28:23 Because I texted you and you were like, no way. Yeah. There's no way. You just sent me a picture of Mace Windy with Tupac's face, Poto shouts onto it. yeah that's how it began because humor because i like doing that i like posing something absurd and then actually explaining it's real in some real in quotation marks so that means in another dimension somewhere where things went a little bit different that that is the universe where everything is like the best world peace yeah
Starting point is 00:28:58 yeah because he wasn't warring with uh biggie like they were in that universe they settled it and maybe even Biggie had a cameo maybe he played a Dexter jetster rest in peace, Tupac and Biggie and then Jay Z could have been Wotto
Starting point is 00:29:20 yeah get Kanye in there for the episode three could have been a young thing Kanye Jarja Yeah so that's just kind of a little into a world that could have been. Yeah. With that said, we'll be back after D's messages.
Starting point is 00:29:39 We'll be back after the oppression of the Sith never returns. So quite soon then. Well, I mean, that's infinite amount of time. Want a dick on a shirt? Check the description below. Welcome to the second half of the JARCast where we answer questions from you, the listeners. want to leave a question for us to ask anything you please head over to the jail media
Starting point is 00:30:06 reddit suggestion thread and you know just leave us a question it's as easy as pie p i okay give me pie let's start with this one from um big boss man three no five three eight not three five eight five three eight do you boys have any advice on self-acceptance and self-love not sure if this has been asked already do we have any what advice how do you do you have advice on self-acceptance and self-love how do we live with ourselves effectively uh boy boy boy what what I like to do is assume correct or not that everyone has the same if not Well, maybe not the, if not the same, but the same level of stresses and problems that I do,
Starting point is 00:31:10 and feeling like I'm in it with everyone else, as opposed to just by myself, is one thing that I find aids my progression. So self-love, is it? It's kind of mutual self-hatred. You know, it's... Yeah, which is equivalent to love. Yeah. if everyone hates themselves no one does
Starting point is 00:31:36 precisely I've had issues with this like pretty much throughout my life who hasn't that's my thing that's what I'm saying like the more you learn that everyone has their own guff their own
Starting point is 00:31:51 you know pooey underwear that weighs them down the sooner you can you know it does help thinking that like maybe I'm not alone in all this with certain things. Maybe there are other people
Starting point is 00:32:05 that feel this way or have had this happen to them or gone through this type thing. Hmm. The main thing for me, like, I remember it was like, you know, 2021. It was like I was still young and mature
Starting point is 00:32:17 and I still suffered with a lot of self-hatred and it's like, for me, it's like just the realism that I shouldn't do it, that I should be, have a positive, you know, mind for it. I know that's not going to help everyone. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But it was just taking the, the proactive approach in my mind to not... It's like, instead of saying, like, thinking in your head that you're bad or that, you just don't do that. You never ever be, like, defeatist like that. Because if you don't say it, then gradually you're not going to think it.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And then you can replace that with positive things. It's about kind of lying to yourself in a way to try and change the attitude you have in your head. Yeah, it's like... distinguishing between truth and fiction so yeah if you're being real hard on yourself just be like why yeah no question it remove it from yourself like if if you're thinking about an awkward situation like six years ago think like if i was the person seeing me do that stuff I wouldn't give a shit
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah No oftentimes the things you dwell on most Are things that If it is say an embarrassing memory That they probably don't even remember Because everyone's got their own shit going on In their minds That stuff stays in your head
Starting point is 00:33:43 Because it affected you negatively Yeah Like other people don't remember that Because it was your negative moment Unless it was something truly Memorably embarrassing Yeah Which case there's not much you can do
Starting point is 00:33:55 Aside from just move on I'm afraid Yeah one thing that helped me I know you're talking people probably cringe right now I had this a date in my diary that would recur every day and a certain point it would pop down on my phone and it just said
Starting point is 00:34:11 work hard love yourself and every day that popped up it was like a reminder that I shouldn't be the fetus and I should not help hate myself sometimes reading it hearing it is all you need positive reinforcement
Starting point is 00:34:25 yeah and it worked and now I kind of, you know, I've got fucking huge nose. I've got big chin. I don't care. Yeah, a lot of self-acceptance is, you know, you have to accept at some point. You know, you spend a lot of time
Starting point is 00:34:39 just chasing the thing you don't have or wanting the thing you don't have and forgetting the things you do have, you know, because you're so occupied on chasing that thing you don't. Whether it be the perfect surgery lips or the perfect tummy or... anything like that. If that's no
Starting point is 00:34:59 a speedy button. I'm pretty sure I had or have some form of body dysmorphia because I remember always having like real hang-ups
Starting point is 00:35:14 starting from when I was like an early teen because you know I got really chubby and had like a chubby phase. I think around then I have something thing that started me down this path of like being completely obsessed with um like body image yeah and like it's weird because even when i was objectively under weight i still thought i was overweight so like early jar when you could just see like my legs and stuff i had no idea i was
Starting point is 00:35:51 like that skinny like in my mind like i still had weight to lose like i know that genuine like in my rational mind that's what I was thinking but it wasn't until like a few years later and then happening to see that jar intro where you could see the jeans I was wearing how skinny my legs were I was like fuck
Starting point is 00:36:11 how and then you just like chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken what changed it do you think uh changed what my why you started eating better
Starting point is 00:36:23 uh I don't know I think it was no because I really lost a lot of weight when I first became a veggie Yeah Well you also moved out around that time Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:39 So it's just Yeah I probably wasn't eating properly Yeah Not eating the right things I think it was more a quantity thing Like I just wasn't eating enough Like I'd Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:52 The human body is kind of a tank In certain ways so it can like adapt to if you're eating one of the extremes you know like if you're eating just a tiny bit it can figure out ways to use that tiny bit of nutrition yeah as the is the opposite um you probably weren't getting as much exercise as well because you didn't have a dog or anything for no if anything i was having more because i was swimming like nearly every day oh really yeah so i probably wasn't counteracting like how much i was burning with Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:37:26 I just wasn't thinking about it, you know So that's something But again Also, as you get older, you do Stop caring about all the dumb shit you care about when you're younger Which is happening more and more I'm finding With like
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like I cared about not showing My appearance in any form Um partially for my own like I'm not like that much an outgoing person really I kind of like my privacy so that was part of it but the other part was like I don't want to I don't want people to see me so they can judge me type of stuff but obviously don't care about that anymore yeah I don't know it will if you stick with it hopefully it'll improve at some point that's all I can really say
Starting point is 00:38:18 takes time with it that's the thing you don't don't expect instant results it takes time yeah no we had we have a really good question here I wanted to move on to but I'm struggling to find it now it was some yeah I found it from Evan X OX and this this is gonna I don't know how this is gonna go okay depending on if we agree on it. I've recently had a heated debate among my friend group and quite frankly
Starting point is 00:38:57 I need answers. So I've reached out to the most intelligent people I know. How many holes are in a straw? A drinking straw. So why are we being asked this question? Because we're the
Starting point is 00:39:13 deciding factor. We're not the most intelligent group though. Here we are. Let him believe it. I'm bloody genius. Jim, how many holes are there in a drinking straw? I want you to answer first, because I'm right and I know it. Um, one. James?
Starting point is 00:39:33 Hmm. This is a difficult one, really? No, what flashes into your mind? How many holes are in a drinking straw? two okay Jim what is your answer you're holding a drinking straw
Starting point is 00:39:55 it's one the answer is one now explain it's it it's it goes all the way through it's one hole going all the way along
Starting point is 00:40:07 yeah I've got no I've got a different thing okay how are there two an exhaust on a car it's like a straw It's identical to a straw No, it's not
Starting point is 00:40:16 No, it is Because there's a hole at one end And then it goes all the way through And it's just one continuous hole And then it's not Because there's four There's four holes at the end So you're saying that is four
Starting point is 00:40:28 No, that is two Because there's one on each end The exhaust has one that goes to the four So there's five I see what you're saying So you're saying that the middle doesn't matter But because they're removed from each other The holes are separate
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yes no there's two holes if you cut a hole in the side of it there are two entrances but one hole that's the well it depends if you if you punch a hole in a wall it's not an entrance to wall you've punched a hole in the wall
Starting point is 00:41:00 it's how you use the word hole like that if that's an entrance to the straw there's two entrances if an entrance is a hole there's two holes Hole A hollow place in a solid body or surface So there is one hole
Starting point is 00:41:22 There is one hollow body But there are two entrances to said hollow body Yeah Ah you guys you're talking shit How many holes are in a straw I would personally say one I'm sure this one's going to spark some kind of debate The place or position that needs to be filled
Starting point is 00:41:40 because someone or something is no longer there. That's another definition for hold. Yeah, but you can't fill a straw. You can with liquid. No. Not really. I'd say it's two. Okay, maybe we should just leave it up to the fans to debate on this one
Starting point is 00:42:02 because I'm going to stick with one. I'm going to stick with one. I think there's one. I think there's one. Yeah. But I also do understand your rationale to a certain degree. There's a... Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:15 So there's a... What? No, for example, you punch a hole through that wall. Right. If you go round to the other side, that's not a different hole. It's the same hole. It's one hole in the wall. Because you punched one hole.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah. So imagine this was... was thick, like, all the way through, a solid thing. And one hole had been punched through it with a machine. I would ask how a straw's made. Because if they are quite literally made, like, because I don't think they are. They're made by a piece of paper that's rolled.
Starting point is 00:42:57 So they are two holes. I think that's the way you're going to. What's the difference? No, because you're not punching. You haven't got a tube that you're punching all the way through. You've got a piece of paper roll. But it's not how the hole came about. It's that there is a hole.
Starting point is 00:43:10 That's what your punching analogy is meaning. It's how that you punched one hole and it's come through all the way through. If you punch one hole, but it doesn't go all the way through, and you have to punch the other one in to make it complete, that's technically two holes. No, it's not what? If you punch one side, then the other to make it one hole. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Then that is one hole. There's two holes. Because you've had to punch two holes. No, you've had to punch one hole twice. Two holes? That doesn't make it too long. Can we get another question, please? No, I just wanted to hear what was coming out of that one.
Starting point is 00:43:50 What it didn't get quite as heated is the cookie... Don't even bring up the cookie biscuits. Yeah, don't worry. Cookies aren't biscuits? No, we're not going into... So they're cakes. Cookies aren't cake. Bubba Ducky asked this.
Starting point is 00:44:05 The jar fans proved that I was right on the cookie one. No, they didn't. Biscuits. I can't argue against James and anything to do cookies because I'm just out of my element, if I'm being honest. Jaffa cakes? Cake? Not a biscuit. They're a cake. Yeah, that one's obvious. Bubba Ducky has this to ask. Who has said the end word more times in their lives?
Starting point is 00:44:28 Ruben, or the three of us combined? Hey, I've never said the word. No one likes a fibber, James. that's difficult um not because we're like spamming the end word behind the scenes but
Starting point is 00:44:48 we didn't well there was a phase when jim and wuben did that's a lie there was a phase that never ended where you say it every day
Starting point is 00:45:00 at least once I have not said that word ever in the last year I don't say that word if I have to I use a W To be respectful
Starting point is 00:45:12 Fuck you Yeah What's your genuine answer What do you think It's a silly question I think the answer is Ruben Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:23 I think that's probably Actually a fair assumption Yeah 100% Okay Don't I'm just remembering that intro Chuffer MacDonald has this to say
Starting point is 00:45:50 What are your favourite and least favourite aspects of Jarre and for Alex, IE So what is the best thing about Jarre and what is the worst thing about Jha? The best thing about Jarre is the love and affection our fans give us absolutely the best thing
Starting point is 00:46:08 the worst thing about Jaya is just having to see you two okay biting the best thing about Jara is having to see you two the worst thing about Jaya um
Starting point is 00:46:20 I'm I'm gonna be brutally honest here do it no no in my hands I hold not the wolf the blue wolf
Starting point is 00:46:31 the blue wolf With the mumps or measles or whatever the fuck he's got. Alex made this when he was like 14. And his neck came out. I was in year eight. The task was to make your favourite animal out of modrock. So I made that wolf out of mod rock. He's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah. But he's got like the ribbit bit from a frog. I fucked up the, it's got a goiter like Dexter Jeter. Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. So that's true. least favorite. If I had to be honest, if I have to be honest, I'm not saying this
Starting point is 00:47:08 just because Jim's brought up an object. Dick the head. No. I fucking hate Dick the head. I've hated Dick the head since day one. I'm an original hater. I fucking hate Dick the head. Since day, why, since day one? As soon as I saw... No, you got to talk to the Mikey mother. That's one of the fathers anyway. I don't even know. Or the grandfather, I can't remember. Which other one's Dick the Head. I don't like him. That's shocking, and I don't appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah, for me, it's similar lines, except I love every item, obviously, in this room, so none of those count. But yeah, my favourite thing is probably that it's... It's just the most consistent thing I've ever done. Yeah, it's like a good, like, consistent thing in my life. you know it's like a productive thing somewhat but also fun um laid back relaxed chilled out cool chilled out pretty cool pretty you're running out of hip yeah hip uh kind of indie down to clown kind of indie um least favorite um just just trying to organize everyone's timelines into one is probably my least favorite thing.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah, it's annoying. But, I mean, whatever. Yep, we're all busy boys, so... I'm not. You're the busiest. My favorite and least favorite thing about I.E. My least favorite is how just so much more cautious
Starting point is 00:48:52 I have to be now on that channel. Yeah, I can imagine. Once it gets past a certain size, like... And you're not just making pure... humor content that like you can just kind of say whatever you want if you're actually trying to make any points like you have to do so much work to make sure you kind of own what you're saying and don't piss people off it's the people I
Starting point is 00:49:16 piss off unintentionally that are the ones that annoy me the most like if I make a video about why I think Sonic sucks like it doesn't bug me that people who love Sonic get annoyed by it but it's when I unintentionally like through like some little error or something I use the wrong word or I you know fuck up in some sense it's just way more of a big deal to me when it's on that as opposed to when I'm on like a free form podcast which is very casual and I think people understand it a bit more yeah you know they're more willing to be on your level a bit more than an angry video but my favorite thing um I don't know it's it's given
Starting point is 00:50:00 me everything that I have is thanks to it so that's pretty important I suppose thank you I hear everything we love you IH everything we've got to we've got to decide we have an important decision to make right now the turning point in this episode where we have two possible titles that I've noted down as we've gone long that have come up naturally and one of them has to be used um and you guys got to help me i'm ready so far i'm torn between the passionate napper or the blue wolf passionate napper which you got to think about it think about this is like a little behind the scenes um like process of how um thumbnails and titles are made
Starting point is 00:50:55 yeah what are people going to click on more get fortnight in there the fortnight blue wolf the uh the iron man passionate napper that's always a good if it doesn't have that like clickbait
Starting point is 00:51:09 umph you're looking for no I'm thinking if we do like the the blue wolf but like Photoshop a wolf to be blue like with a red circle around it in like the wilderness wild blue wolf
Starting point is 00:51:23 wanted to really go mental edit like something to do a Sonic onto um a wolf maybe yeah although Sonic's a hedgehog he's blue he is blue not a wolf though what would you click on James if you saw the title or the passionate napper the thumbnail is a big part of this thumbnail normally comes last for me it's though once I have the title I'm like okay now I know what I can construct right did you see the thumbnail
Starting point is 00:51:58 for a few weeks again with fucking Mort's head on the body um it's hard to I would personally
Starting point is 00:52:10 be more of a passionate napper okay that actually did come up with quite a good jar video where it would have to be just a video one
Starting point is 00:52:20 because it couldn't just be audio but put like um start with episode one's thumbnail and we like go through every jar thumbnail and um talk about them and point out the humor and uh decision making me cry laughing most the time there yeah maybe that there's potentiality in that idea for the future great video we'll play guess guess the thumbnail I put my phone. Now I need to go to Twitter
Starting point is 00:52:55 because we're recording this a bit early. So the thread, the suggestions thread is a bit out of date for us because we're doing two in one week, sort of. You mean not up to date? My favourite most recent thumbnail of ours is D's, sugar, water and nuts.
Starting point is 00:53:17 What's the thumbnail? The thumbnail is the chase. Oh, the three options. Question is, in 2005, the third party US presidential candidate, and then you can't see the rest, but A is these nuts, B is these nuts, C is D's nuts. That's a good one. That's a good one. Don't know that one. And that was episode 1199C. Whoa. But this tweet comes in from Medi-Mocrity, who says, what was the moment you decided the podcast would be a long-term project I feel like that's just what is, we didn't make it
Starting point is 00:54:00 with the idea of like, well, we'll do one. Yeah. You know? We, unlike most other podcasts, actually had a commitment from the get-go. We were like, we're making this happen. It's crazy actually, like,
Starting point is 00:54:15 considering the setup we had, once we started, we never stopped. And I'm surprised. It became our duty. It's given us a little purpose. Yeah. It's all I've got. Yeah, what actually was like the...
Starting point is 00:54:33 Do you remember, like, the conversations? It was just like, this is just happened. Like, no one has any control. Come on, guys, come over. We're doing a podcast now. Is that really how it started? Yeah. I mean, it was an exciting time and shit.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Like, but I genuinely have no memory of like, planning anything or we we just like talked about it for ages about doing a podcast but we never had the space or resources yeah it was especially the gear never had like mics yeah rather had enough mics so then we had like two mics and we shared them well we're three I think and it's like once we got going we just didn't stop we got into speed and we had it on the wind beneath our feet and we just kept going we rode into the sunset yeah
Starting point is 00:55:28 because of course it was especially on my mind because I'm just so obsessed with podcasts and always have been so I just kind of wanted to do it myself but like I don't have like any overt speciality so I was just like fuck it let's just do it no planning to do this many episodes
Starting point is 00:55:47 without a core principle or idea to the podcast Yeah, there's like no easy way to describe what like it even is. I was talking to someone about jar at work and he was like, what do you talk about? And I was like, literally anything. I've been asked this question. I've been asked this question for whatever we choose. And it's like, how do you answer that?
Starting point is 00:56:14 I've always been like, I just started for like a couple minutes. That's why like when I was setting up the RS. feed so the audio version could go up on Spotify and iTunes um the podcast needed like a description of what it was and I was like fuck what the fuck is this what have we done so I just stole the Seinfeld thing of it just yeah it's a podcast about nothing because like being about nothing
Starting point is 00:56:43 kind of is being about something in a weird way that's such big power And it's like that's kind of why I hide Jha because I know it's like Hate Jha hide it like at work like there's some people I can't Because it's hard to explain yeah yeah I know that and it's like I can't tell like sonny's like a you know 50 of what we do It's just like uh Things
Starting point is 00:57:10 You should just do fucking weird shit as well yeah No but that's the problem it's just like I can't explain it because then if I if I don't explain it they're gonna think i'm doing something bad yeah no because did you catch when we went to that pub meal the other night and we're talking to someone there and they were going through like what our jobs were and i was like oh i'm a video editor and i was and i realized how it might sound and i was like it isn't safe for work mind you because like i just assume like when i say that people think oh that made me laugh no because i've thought that same thing before that when i've said that people probably assume
Starting point is 00:57:50 but I normally clarify a bit more before I see the look on their face turn into oh is he a porno guy does he make porn does he edit porn and the thing is no matter what I say to him it's like I can't get
Starting point is 00:58:10 them to actually look at the channel because that's even worse because then they'll click it they'll happen to click on one of the early episodes I want a really strange runs It'd be like I can explain Yeah I'm way less embarrassed Of New Jar
Starting point is 00:58:25 Than I'm Oh yeah Old Jar was too chaotic You know Well I mean we were all young and dumb Do you not actually I mean we still are And full of cum
Starting point is 00:58:35 We were younger Dumber and fuller of cummer It was such a weird thing I got asked about Jha at a fucking board meeting at work The entire team in a fucking bored meeting but a fucking massive projector
Starting point is 00:58:48 and the director of our team was like so what do you do on YouTube and I was like fucking went wed and was just like No you could get around it if you say you just do podcasts because no one cares about podcasts no I did and then went on YouTube on the fucking projector
Starting point is 00:59:05 really and the fucking this was the time and the fucking shred these videos have made so click that one Wait did it actually have the intro with me fighting Wait, you watched that on the big screen in a boardroom. Genuinely. What was their fucking reaction to this?
Starting point is 00:59:22 I can't even remember, but I was just like, I was too busy laughing at the whole situation. Wow. I'm amazed you've never told us that, but that's the end of the episode otherwise. Thanks for supporting us. We'll catch you next time. Ciao for now.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Right, it's five stars on iTunes, everybody. Six stars, motherfucker. Fight seven stars if you actually think straws of two holes.

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