JAR Media Posdact - The SPIDER Market - JARCast Episode 359

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

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Why are you wearing your sunglasses indoors? Because it stops my eyes running and it stops me feeling sore. Guys, it's not normal. Have you got man flu? Oh, this is the worst man flu I've had in a long time. Yeah. And I got to apologise to those listening. Because I'm not going to sound like my nose.

Clear your throat. self now listen apparently apparently in the last episode I was breathing real loud like what was what was happening breathing

like I was just yeah a smile Alex maybe it's because I was on the tiny chair I don't know maybe I was stressed that day or something you were stressed that day oh okay there you go maybe that was why then

you weren't you were so congratulations I feel. New year, new cheer. Everybody to raise a glass of beer. It is... It is officially the 2024. How do we all feel?

What's our feelings? Awful. Why? He's ill. I'm ill. I'm not about the year. I'm not on about how you feel. Well, I don't know.

It's only just begun. Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen. Are you not excited for something? Should we make predictions? Yeah Like, what do you mean Like stuff that's going to happen? Yeah, yeah

Yeah Hmm What's even left to happen? Well, A lot Another war Yeah, another war A different one somewhere else

Yeah I'm gonna say Stuff is going to pop off Down in South America I'm gonna say No No, I don't see it The second day

Of the fourth month Something Intense is going to go down. Second day of the fourth month? Yeah. Okay. Which month is that? Is that April, right?

Is that April Fool's? No, it's the day after April Falls. Second, after April Falls, stuff's going to get crazy. That's my prediction. Everyone's going to expect it on April Fool's, but it's going to happen the day after. Okay, I shot by, um. My stock market prediction. Because in those days

You know, get your bets ready Yeah Betts ready You know last time We've hit every time So this is This could make you millions So listen out

Is it gonna be sort of a bear market Or more of a bull sort of thing It's the spider fund The Spider Fund Well no The obvious fucking one is Is a What, um

Take 2 That's that would be the obvious one If you want to make a bit cash That's the following year Yeah but Yeah you gotta wait for You can get in, cheaper this shit. You gotta wait for the game to come out and then there'd be an earning score.

But, uh, I guess this is the Jarcast episode 359. I'm your host Alex, joined by Jim and James over there. Trying out a new angle, I think it's pretty flattering on all. Pretty good use of space. Spent last year, um... We lost our budget. This is why we've lost the other chair, so Alex has happened to go by the camera because the womb's shrunk.

Inflation. It's becoming more. The room's inflated. The walls are inflated. We have less space by the year because, yeah, it's... Yeah, the walls are closing in. We're getting vored by the joint. We are, we're getting vored.

It's like the corridor. The coravol. The vorovol. If you lean your head back, though, Alex, people can see up there. Oh, no. That's just the magic roundabout. Yep. I'm getting warm.

I'm getting sweaty. I've got that, you know, that mirage over... every decision because you're like ill and you feel like you're walking through molasses you know do you actually make decisions

on your ill or you're saying you don't no I try not to but when it lines up with like a recording day what am I supposed to do I could just sit here going my last episode well no you make you

what you do is you make it easier for everyone else and you're like let's just order Chinese or something like that you can just tell us what to do instead of just being like that's not my ill style my old style is to go

yeah and be even more useless yeah and then have a really hot bath which then throws your temperature all off and you like feel faint for like while eating like and at the same time you eat chili sauce

just to you're lying in bed like with the temperature all crazy. What is wrong with you? I don't go flu or something. But when I have a bath and I'm ill, I just feel nice. Yeah, it's nice and then you get out.

Alex has like 50 degree bars. Alex does have some insanely hot bath. Yeah. I even had a bath bomb in it. Oh, your bar? Yeah, man. Okay. I think bath bombs are a fucking crock of shit.

It's about relaxation, bro. Yeah, I can relax and just wet. That'll sort your crisp out, man. What crisp? You just said you've gone crisp. You just said you were crispy. Yeah? Yeah, that'll sort your crisp.

No fucking mind. Well, if you don't sort your crisp now, it might become crust. You don't want to be crust. Yeah, and then you might get... That you don't want it in Patigo, bro. I've had it. Nasty. That's nasty. Okay.

Well, if I get it, then... It puts In Patigo is so infectious You've got to like quarantine for like a week Wow I had to in primary school That's when I saw die hard for the first time Really?

Yeah It was worth it then Well you got influenza Impetigo It's nasty It's nast What do you think of my new term Nass

Nasty Nasty X Yeah what do you think It's a new year I'm trying to some something fresh. I think little Nast X is going to have another debut this year. He's going to come out. He's going to rebrand. He's going to come out swinging. Um, no. Okay. Okay. Do you guys have the sensitive eye problem I've got?

Hmm. What? Well, like, if the wind is over three miles an hour, my eyes are going to be streaming. It's going to look like I'm crying. No. You don't have that? No. Wait, if you go more than three miles and a hour. My eyes are my eyes are quite sensitive to light hmm maybe I'm just a sensile kind of guy you are quite sensitive yeah yeah I agree

welcome yeah what are we talking about what's the thesis of this one well no this is our new year's resolution cast where we have resolution but like what it's even the what last year ones. I don't know what I said.

I'm going to be bloody brilliant. Been doing that all year. Well, I forgot what mine is. Mine was like, I know, just be happier. And then, you know, focus on my fun.

And I didn't do that because I had no money. So this year, it's like, oh, yeah, have fun. And maybe I have money. Do you know what my New Year's resolution is this year? You're going to get into clopping. Jamie can't get into clopping

What do you mean He can't be a clopper Oh no no no I think I'm misremembering what What do you think a clopper is My assumption was it was a woman Who clops to my little pony But it's not gender specific

It's just being a clopper Yeah Yeah it's fine what is your real one I think to um to read the corn

that's already failed then I've read a few words this year I by the one word a night heed my wording heed my he'd my wording heed my wording heed my wording

by the end of the year I will have read the cat the philosopher's stone I will have read the Quran I will have read the Bible I will have read Old and New Testament

Which one? You can't read the Bible and be like Well I'm just going to forget the New Testament That's called Judaism Alex You're going to start with new New or old No you start with the new and go into the old And that's a double whammy. That counts as three holy books, because Judaism is just the Old Testament.

Number four, I'm going to... Why are you going all life of pie at the moment? Life of pie? That's like the main character's like story. He gets like obsessed with all the different religions trying to find... Peace. Yeah, kind of, yeah. He's like trying to find which one has the best ideas and the best stories and the best...

So someone's done this. before. Yeah, scrap that New Year's. Surely, if you're going to read them, you need to read the opposites. You need to read the ones that's like, oh yeah, just fuck shit up. You need to become a Satanist.

If there was a Satanist book. I'm pretty sure there is a Satanist. There is a Satanist book, yeah. What's it called? The Old Testament. All those Rust Belt listeners are going to be quite upset right now. Everyone's going to be upset right now.

Um, I'm also going to read whatever Buddha wrote. Um, I'm going to read the book of Buddhism. What about Sikhism? Um, yeah, I'll read a Geroon annex. Sikhs are the underrated one. Yeah, they're the most fire of all. Okay, what about, um? They get to, like, have knives.

Yeah. Shit. They get their, like, special blade. Do you remember what their place of worship's called? I can't remember. A Sikh temple? A Sikh temple. So I remember going to, like,

in like primary school and it was like the best experience yeah but I think we had all this like fresh food they made it was awesome yeah I think I went to the same place yeah yeah that was cool

a little bit chill a little bit delicious a little bit isn't that Ganesh the elephant god no that's Hindi

oh that is Indian yeah yeah what we're talking about well my resolution this year is um to learn sword fighting yeah no become become one of those like washing MMA armoured sword fighting guys

jousting or fencing no no when you when you you get an armour and you have a sword and then you just MMA fight each other in armour with swords that sounds horrifying that doesn't sound like MMA either

no no but it is they're like fucking full fucking kicking them it's crazy if you're not seen any of the clips of this no that sounds really cool. It's jowling's still done. Yes. Yeah, it must be. I've seen joustings. It's safer now.

I imagine. I just, how can it be safe? Yeah. Like, at full speed, two horses running at each other and you get like the perfect jab. They have like collapsible spears so that the impact is being taken by the

spear instead of it going to. Do you actually give Henry the 8th props for that? Henry the 8th? Yeah, he was a Choucester. I thought he was like a polo player and he fell off his horse. No, he was a chowseing accident. Yeah, because he was like, he was like a chad when he was young.

He was like ripped and did a lizard. Those are sports and stuff. Yeah. Then he had a jalous accident. It was like, fuck it. I'm just going to go go go on food, I guess. I'm going to eat so much food I vom and then eat more and then take a shit and make someone else wipe my ass.

There is something cool about that. Something really cool. cool about that. I think you reach a certain age as a man and you're like right, I'm done like I just wish I had someone who'd wipe my ass right now. Yeah. I just want to ship for as long as I want it and have someone

sort of helpful. Isn't that the final award for living? Because when you get old, you can't wipe your ass or someone has to do it for you. So if you get, if you live long enough and succeed, someone's going to wipe your ass eventually. Is it more of a blessing or a curse to be born into a real family? Um, curse.

Do you think so? Well, yeah, it's a fucking blessing. How does it occurs? You're not going to have a normal life. That is true. You're not going to have no life. You're almost like groomed into this institution from the moment you're born. Yeah, that's hellish, man.

That's a like. But I mean, is a normal life also being born in by like a heroin addict who. That's a different, that's an extreme example. Then you're put into the system of care. There are many more people in that position than there are. Yeah. And which would you prefer? Royalty.

Well, yeah. If I had to choose, I'd choose royalty. Yeah, and so there's, there's like one royalty guy born, or women. Right, and but there's like hundreds and hundreds of crack babies. Yeah, being born into unhealthy households. Yeah, no, but beyond that, like, people just put into the system. And then we've got to look up to this other one who was born into... Yeah, so we just...

Infinite wealth. Yeah, so we kill the one with infinite wealth. What do you think this source for, bro? this is a kingslayer. This is what we're going to use to kill kings. There's something I like in Kings chicken.

I bring it up a lot that shows succession which is like parodying Rupert Murdoch who is referred to as the king maker because he has that much like political power

he can influence politics to the degree to basically like Game of Thrones but modernised That's kind of just what modern society is What Modern society is based entirely

On divine right And they put perception via media corporations So yeah there's people in these positions You have insane amounts of power And they use them to Do great things It's a shame about the Cocoa Pops monkey On the being on the flight locks

why the sugar puff monster don't even get me tiger Tony the tiger yeah she's yeah

any any shocking revelations from the flight log Cameron Diaz yep Leonardo DiCapio this is I mean Stephen Hawking Stephen Hawking was a wild one

but Bill Clinton Every president That was obviously going to be the case That's surprising I think The thing is with these logs Is that you actually have to read into what

Is actually said about the person Yeah You know if you take it at face value Then you're going to be like Why are these detectives that were going after Epstein Epstein's whole thing why are they taking part in it

if you just read the names because it's an account of people like Epstein mentioned right right so it doesn't mean these are the this is the list of humans that took part in the human trafficking presumably had like an elaborate web of like

manipulation and like blackmail on all sorts of people that's what it mainly was it was this manipulation of black well the way main thing you got look at it is actually to cross reference it with the confirmed flight logs people who have actually been known to fly to the island because then you can find that the people who have actually been engaging in this yeah that's like a confirm one obviously speaking of royalty yeah yeah yeah that's just so mad that's like that's now just ingrained into the history and DNA of the country forever and I guarantee Prince

Andrew is not the first one. No. Oh, very, very embarrassing. But, uh, yeah, let's quickly do a bit of housekeeping. Only like one or two comments I wanted to shout out here. Um, I already mentioned it earlier, but old man diabetes says, is this a wrap-up or an Alex breathing ASMR? We get it, Alex.

You have lungs. Not very good ones, clearly. Yeah, I don't know what was going on there, but, uh, Hoodied says I've watched you a lot for about five years now since year nine in secondary school and now I'm in university crazy stuff love you boys I hope you and the jailings had an absolutely wonderful new year um sorry and finally uh Elliot 4927 says Alex completely copied Jim's point about Ryan Gosling and Ryan Reynolds being on the same trajectory and then it going different directions Jim said that a hundred episodes or so ago Alex just stole his idea and

said, I always thought this thing. Not surprised. Did I? Yeah, you probably did. That's also, like, that's how you, like, learn, though, right? You're in an environment. Someone says an observation, and you're like, oh, yeah. Yeah, now that's my opinion.

Yeah. So before we go into just these questions that have built up, uh, does James know about German gym? What? Why are you looking at me like that? Do you know about Jem and Jim? No. You don't? No. Dude, this is really messed up. And this is coming from Jim.

Yeah. Like, you know, it's like an epidemic on the subreddit where it's like, oh, person with brown hair and and stubble. It's James. They look like James. You know, or whatever. Or like blonde curly hair guy. That's Alex, everybody. Yeah. Young gravy. you really look like young gravy today for the record really with the dressing gown in there look right into the camera young gravy on the cast baby but yeah

I just want to get James's reaction to German gym because this is really fucking weird so it took me a minute but I mean, I've seen this guy before. He's really popular on the thing.

Yeah. They're not similar at all. What do you mean? How is that not similar? No, honest to God. No, bro, don't do this. No, there's not. I should have known you were going to say this shit.

I've seen these videos a lot because they're really popular. He doesn't look like Jamie. I'm sorry, he doesn't. Jim, you are Jim. What do you think? The facial structure, there is similarities there. But also, there is a lot of other differences that I see. like it's just like oh he is he's a different person but yeah at a glance at a glance

look if if someone had just showed me this video and been like do you remember doing this a few Christmases ago I would have been like I don't I don't remember doing that but um I I you need that video is there's other videos of him that prefer that he's not wearing a hat which is clearly obvious that it's like more obvious this video in general with the hat yeah but in general no sorry that's just my opinion he's got better skin than me but I have better bones. That's what I'll say. Why, you drink more milk. I may have done. But

he's also German. He's had more meat. More sausage. More beer even. More beer and sausage. I would like to meet this man. I don't know. I mean, I might cause like a singularity type thing. Yeah. What if

one of us is like anti-matter and we touch each other and just it was gone? Well, speaking of anti-matter, let's just Start flinging out some questions. From the JAR Media Redis over at R-S-F-G-R-Media. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

F-A-N-F. What? So Radiant Apartment 73 is going to get us going here. Curious to know what the Belkman boys think of the current state of their home country, N-Z, New Zealand. I know there has been much bemoaning of the British system, but I haven't heard much conversation on N-Z from the gang. For context, we've recently had an election leading to a right-wing government

currently cutting public services to fund a 3 billion tax cut for landlords in a country where the average house costs 15 times the average annual income. Pretty similar to here then. That just sounds very much like a lot of places in the world

where we're having these white women governments take over and it's just, oh. Yeah, I had this conversation with one of my New Zealand cousins a couple years ago or something. Yeah, it was a pretty similar thing um economically at least like everything's really expensive um houses are crazy

expensive it's like 15 20 times here as well i think now as far as like how much you've got to save in order to buy a house um you don't know it's it's we have another question about this kind of thing later but you don't really unless you're there you know what By talking to my dad, he'll sometimes reference something that's happened or whatever. But I'm not really, my finger's not really on the pulse of that. Yeah, I barely understand what's going on here. It looks like they're doing a little bit of an inverse of what's happening here, though, where we're probably going to go labour, where they've been left in it for a while.

I think it's kind of a state of the world thing. everything everywhere it's primarily because America is the leading economy so whenever that kind of poops everywhere poops yeah sphere of influence yeah hmm hmm hmm legit inkling says Hello boys just wonder if there's any update on the new intro animation I know it's been around two years since it was initially mentioned and it's probably been shelled at this point but I'm just curious

Yeah there's no plans for that anymore I like the bleat mouth thing It's our identity It's part of us Yeah Yeah so don't be waiting for that And there's still people who are like When are you going to change the logo back

Why? To what? The crappy old one. You're just being insane. I think some people just don't like change, any change. I don't think majority of you. But all we are is change. That's all we've ever been.

Look at this video. Yeah. Look at the screen right now. Sven, has one for you, James. Yes. Oh, job boys. What are you guys, especially James' opinion on pickup truck culture here in the US. I just learned that the Ford F-15.

has been the best-selling vehicle in the U.S. since 1981. And where I live in upstate New York, probably about half the vehicles on the road are pick up trucks. No hate against truck owners or anything. I just find it interesting that Americans love them so much. Also, can Alex say Jarkast in his American accent? I find it really funny, Lord. It does sound crazy when Americans say it. I love the Jarkast.

Jarkast. I love the Jarkast. I listen to the Jarkass every evening. pickups what do you think naturally every car every country their car market is determined by society by just the culture

and the society of that country America's a huge country you're going to get huge trucks that I don't like them I think they're silly because it's a simple case of excessiveness you're buying a big vehicle because you want it instead of you know the practicality

of actually needing it but the main problem of American pickups is that their safety ratings are horrifying. I saw one today of a Volvo pickup, Volvo Moto Moto 4, 4, having a test where they basically wham a huge piece of metal at the tip of the roof. So it happens, perfectly fine.

In an American F-150, straight-through, it rips the roof off, so it would kill the people inside. American safety standards are horrific. So it's quite funny that the country that's most excessive about pickups, where they're basically deafboxes. I think, yeah.

And it's obviously just according to the cyber French talk from earlier. It's just a bit funny. The, uh, I think the cultural comment's spot on because like, yeah, in it's Italy,

it's like the little dinky fiatz. Japan has Kaikas. Japan, the Kaikas. And I don't, I think it fits America quite well, actually. It does. I think it's like quite a nice symbol for the country, but I just don't like how it's exported it here.

Yeah, it's made, Because Britain should have gone towards Kai cars and tinier cars Because the city centres are all So busy So instead of downsizing We're up sizing And tiny

Because I'm envious of that I think it is cool to have so much space To have these giant houses Your acres of land And then your big vehicles Where you can carry everything You could ever imagine And there is a practicality

And like Something fun about that But they are enormous It's a perfect symbol of greed and access. It is. Which is America. Yeah, and the thing is,

there's a lot of comparison things of Kai trucks in Japan. The cargo space in the back is the same between a tiny truck and a Ford F-150. But they're both practical vehicles, they have the same amount of practicality, but one's excessively excessive.

It's bloated, it's bloated as fuck. And the other one's the streamlined practical works. Yeah, I saw some funny ones. in Seattle like where they got like the the eagle American flag on them and stuff like that it's like wow this is actually real

this is hilarious it's yeah it's quite a cultural difference I would never never own a moment because they look like whether you like them or not in the UK they look absurd they do they see them parked and they take up like four parking spots

that even the pickups we have here can be quite huge yeah but it's just like my way especially of that is that the Middle East do it better because they're not pickups, they're just big SUVs that they're hooning up and down sand dunes like

that's just kind of cool and to be fair Japanese pick trucks are way better than American ones so it's like a win-win mumbo bumbo has this to say how does it feel knowing some people have a parasocial relationship with you

or is there anyone you know you have a parasocial relationship with yourself I listen to the cast often enough that I know I have a bit of a parasocial thing with jar I don't consider that a bad thing really Listening to the cast feels Similar to chatting with a friend for example And sometimes I might see something and think

JAR Media Jim would like this If that makes sense It's inevitable That especially when you're running a podcast So long that you are going to formulate some kind of parasocial because we're talking about Our lives and just our silly stuff For literally like eight

years But it's just the only point problem is how you act upon that. If someone, like, if I meet a fan, it's, if they try to out really close with me, that's a problem because it's like, I don't know you. If, you know, I've met jarlings and they've just been really chill and they just ask me things, it's cool. It's just how people act upon it, which is where there's a problem. I, like, I'm a, I'm a shy guy. So it's just like approaching me and trying to be super close. I remember, like, the first time noticing this kind of behavior in my life, um,

I like made any kind of content or anything I was obsessed with the that movie review site spill.com they did like animated movie reviews and stuff I remember so clearly when they like announced that they were shutting the website down they're not going to do it anymore it was like uh it was like there's like a sadness it felt like oh I'm I'm losing something now I'm missing on something because clearly it had some kind of attachment I had some routine listen to this like expecting this thing every week um i don't know if there's necessarily something negative about that it's just a power for the course and yeah like loads of people they just don't know how to deal with these emotions or ideas and they can get a bit extra or a bit a bit intense when you're

um you know anonymously in engaging with strangers online it can get weird quick but yeah yeah i think the issue often and i this I think this tends to be an issue with people with far larger followings where it's like some fans typically ones who have known that creative for

like a longer period of time since when they were small or something when they feel some sort of like they're obligated a certain amount of knowledge and like looking up where they live or their family and there was stuff

that happened with like I-H-E where people were just kind of digging a bit too deep and yeah it's just like being a sense of entitlement yeah yeah that's exactly but that's but the when they when these people would send me emails and things on these lines

it was never like phrased maliciously like it was phrased in a way where from their perspective they thought they were doing me a favour um like there was one I remember of you know that website Flickr where you upload like photographs

I did photography at a level and there was a picture on my old Flickr account which you had to make for sick form on my Flickr account there was like a picture of me on there

before there was any imagery of me online and someone found it and they screenshots it and was like I think this is a picture of you you might want to hide this or something

yeah because they're having to go out of their way parasocially to find that exactly yeah we're like yeah what what position were you in where you were even found like how did you find that like that's nuts yeah did someone bring it to you but then it's also like uh it was thanks to a jarling that we were able to locate max a few weeks ago um which is like quite a positive thing i feel like that gave me some closure so it can it can run the whole gambit i guess um you just got to keep it in check and be it's easier said than done just be like self-aware about

the way you carry yourself yeah you know but i but as like a as a content creator so i'm not parasocial the people i watch because i just know there's just people so for me it's like oh my like one of my favorite youtubeers doesn't make videos it's like okay well one of i think the most parasocial i get is with musical artists there's there's something um extra roar about music you know

and you feel like a closeness specifically with like certain types of musicians who actively like bear their soul you kind of feel like an intimacy

to it yeah but saying that like I don't obsessively sort of go for that like that personal stuff it starts and ends with the art for me yeah that's the way i mean that's not that's not that's not power social though like in in at all well i mean i i feel like i understand them better i understand that human better through what they're saying through music but i it starts and ends there with their music yeah i yeah i don't know them as a person, but I understand.

Yeah, I have more of an attachment to the things they have made than, I guess, them as a person. You don't know them as a person. I just know what they're trying to say with this thing that they've made. Yeah. And I think that's normal. R slash charmed media says this might be a controversial one, but I'm here to defend my boy James regarding the bet.

I recently relistened to episode 2-14, and James may have been a few years off when it came to GTA6 being out. but he was actually spot on for a lot of other stuff regarding the announcement. He mentioned he'd seen rumours of scouts in Miami mapping out the city to help create the vice city setting of the game. This has since been verified by the VC setting. He also talked about how there'd been a leak about a huge marketing budget allocated to 2024, saying something like, surely that's for GTA6.

This will also come true as marketing ramps up for the, as of writing this, 2025 release date. He stood his ground in the debate, and I firmly believe that he'd change. If he changed one word in the bet and was less optimistic with the time frame, he'd have won. Had he said in two to three years it will be announced instead of in two years it will be out. Having said all this, I still believe James owes Jim 50 smackeroonies. Let's not rewrite history, pretending he was completely out of his mind. The man deserves some respect for his quite accurate speculation and valid sources. Hashtag justice for James.

Fuck you. It was 50 quid as well, right? Yeah. I'm not paying either. 50 pounds. You can suck one. All right. Hey, hey. You can just buy me GTA 6 when it comes up. I'm not doing that.

I'm not supporting them. What do you mean? No, no, I have, people are angry at my GTA opinion. James doesn't want to watch the trainer. He doesn't want to get excited. Yeah. I don't. Why?

Because I don't, there's no point of being excited for something that's out next year. I've got more important things to get excited about like what I've got I've got be excited about more than one thing no no no no it doesn't have to consume you know it does it has to consume well it's just like if I've consumed my whole life like before it was out no I'm I we should actually make some predictions now but do you think it's gonna launch with online knowing no it'll be delayed you

it will be delayed but I don't think it's gonna be like long after because they understand this this financially speaking they understand that huge chunk of money for getting it sold even more money

at the same time because of micro transactions how many people would buy the game let me let me speak how many people would buy the game for 70, 80 pound right jump online and drop 100

as compared as compared to the 60 pound for the original game at launch followed by months of rating no but if if they release the game, don't have online. They can guarantee you revenue later. Yeah, they

yes, that's having that happy marketing wave. Constant trickle. But it's GTA online. That shit's a financial trick on a matter what. You know what I write? I think when GTA 6 comes out, GTA 5 is still going to be making money from online. Absolutely. The amount of people playing

on like Xbox 360 and it's just the poor nations. They're not going to be going to drop. And people will be attached to all the stuff they've got on it and whatever. all the money they've probably dropped on it already I just think it would make sense from just a make money point of view to launch it with it

but I'm not going to hold my breath I think they will probably delay it because it's going to be huge but if you think how big it how broken GT Online was when it launched this is going to be 10 times worse I think um I don't think it will be

they'll be more ready they will but even when there too was broken it was nowhere near as well it wasn't as bad but it was okay but i think the the amount of people trying to play that is considerably less i don't know man it read their to fucking crazy but gta online too i i think um i think gta six online will be better i think it will release in a better state it will than five five was messed up it was yeah and it wasn't just messed up because it was like oh it's it's launched it's fuck

then it fixed and then like three weeks later it just resettled the progress of certain accounts yeah you could just lose your progress I did so you you proper gooned it you were playing like the same level

that made the most money for the shortest like oh yeah you're like grinding strikes and destiny I was I was grinding and then my account got reset yeah I did Malo and then I stopped playing it basically

yeah that's where the hatred comes from that's the anti-girzy my time was wasted I get that Yeah That is a bummer Yeah It was never about that there

The best thing about like GT online was like Do it I did bike Just BMX's like Being like I'm gonna ride a bike I just like

With my friends in a virtual space I'm gonna ride a bike Up a mountain And just chat the whole way The heists are fun too Yeah the heights were great But like the stuff you could do Red Dead never got that did it

and never got online hests No no so much potential wasted Hot take I think the The missions The co-op missions in Red Dead With the like on a system

Really fun There's that bit where you can like Choose to let some people go Or hunt them down That's right And everyone has to come to You have to like vote Yeah

Yeah just missed the opportunity though Just more of that Would have been awesome But never mind But, um, Gigi Noodles 1 says The Boys Thoughts on People in the General Public Starting to use the word woke I've had multiple people come into the video rental store I work at

Oh, I wonder if this is, this must be the guy Complaining about how they just saw the new Indiana Jones or Marvels And how they were just woke bullshit Um, the word's been floated around a while Even within the general public It's just because of like, Pierce Morgan sort of Yeah Yeah, a lot of there is a lot of that

the right wing media and press it's just a catch term it's in the daily mail and all that every day it is just a catch term for just it was it was it went from political correctness gone mad to social justice warriors now to work it's like the same thing just like morphing what it's called yeah i don't think it matters no i don't know like how it's got so popular because even though it's like cringy peak i don't think like social justice was as prolific as the word woke where like there's books yeah yeah woke and i think where specifically disney is concerned there are issues with like quotas they're filling which make it far more obvious right you know when they're cramming

shit into their movies um you feel it and it's like i don't remember i remember it kind of starting more around the female ghost busters kind of era where like political commentators were starting to make content about movies but that's like quite standard now for like barbie or star wars or any of it um yeah or any marvel shit oh what about this one then from s f s t fish on a similar note do the hosts agree that the crisp 50 pounds from the gta bet should be part of the set no what's the point of what's the point of giving someone money if it's not going to be spent because spend the money is it's financial it's um yeah but i'm not getting the money

anyway no but it's there's no point giving jim 50 pound no but it would be giving no one the 50 pounds i know and that bit when that 50 pound could go through the system and become like a thousand pounds because it's being used through the system what fuck are you saying well there's a word for this if i give Jamie 50 pound and then he gives someone else 50 pound That goes to 50 pound That 50 pound has now become 200 pound

Because it's gone through different people So if you pay a bill for 100 And then that person pays a bill of 100 That's that 100 is now of 200 Economically Because it's constantly being used What's so good to do with the set No as in that's what wouldn't happen

That's the problem It's the reason why Fuck the capitalist right That's your whole thing Yeah no fuck the capitalist by using money We're fucked economically Because they're sitting on wealth that's not being spent.

You're describing capitalism, that's how, that's... Yeah, but the problem... That's the whole idea, the money isn't increasing. If you give me a hundred, and I give that hundred to Alex, that doesn't make 200. No, but economically, it means there's 200 pounds. Economically, that's what they want. They want that movement. Yeah, which is, but why the economy is fucked,

because there's an obscene amount of wealth being held by a tiny percentage that is not being used. Do you think the... It's not going through the system. No, it is going through the system. It's not being... That's how rich people stay rich. Yeah, yeah, no, but it's not. Their bank accounts aren't fat.

All of their, all of their wealth is in assets. But what does any of this have to do with putting a 50 pounds? I'm just saying, I don't want to. That's what I mean. That's why I'm combating this. What you're saying is wrong. The rich don't hold on to large sums of money. They sit on assets.

They sit on assets. Yeah. But that money's not going through the system because it's just an asset. It's not money, though. That's why it's like untaxable. That's how they stay so rich. But they're still hoarding that wealth, even if it is through assets, it's still... Well, no, they leverage the assets with loans.

So they're getting our money for free. Yeah. And they're not using it. They do use it. Then they buy a fucking giant yacht. Yeah, and they get sucked off by Epstein on it or whatever the fuck he did. But I'm sorry. but as people who want that percentage,

why would we sit on 50 pounds for set when we can just use it? Because it's 50 pounds, that's not. Oh no, I'd pay some people on A on a 50 pounds. I use 50 pounds. No, consider this. No, 50 pounds.

You're saying it's morally wrong. Yeah, I'm saying it's morally wrong because that could pay for Sammy's. Sammy could then pay his workers with that 50 pound and that 50 pound from his workers could then pay for his stuff. That's good. We want that. You want to be paying Sammy?

Why are his workers paying for his stuff? No, it's not. No, that the workers buying his own stuff with that 50 pound. Right. Instead of just sitting, like, I'd rather just buy us Sammy's is what I'm saying. No, but the question you have to ask is if there is that $50 there, does that mean we are not ever going to get Sammies anymore? Well, not with that $50. Yeah, but we could do it with other money that we have.

No, but I'm talking about this $50. Is that all the money you have? Yes. That's probably me. There's the answer. I have no money. I feel like I was just in like. a fever dream for like seven minutes.

What was, what were you talking about? I don't have any money. That's why I don't give the 50 pounds. So you wouldn't find it funny if there was a 50 pound on the wall? No. Like the Mr. Crabs first dollar. No, but here's the thing. If I was going to do that, I'd just buy a really good fake because you wouldn't know.

And then that'll be on the wall. And then it'll cost 51 pounds. I can print off a fake for less than that. But then many years later, I can just be like, oh, that 50 pound is fake. And then you'd be But, and that's funny. But, yeah.

On God. Alastair 13 says Bear Badger. The next cast will be going up on my 18th birthday. And as a consistent listener of five years, I feel as a birthday shout out is the least you could do.

Power social. Power social, stop it. You shouldn't expect anything from us. He was about to make a gag at his expense. You could do to make up for the years of brain damage most likely caused. No, that's on you.

My question, though, is do you guys have any suggestions for healthy ways of moving on? As I've recently broken up with my partner of two years and need ways of moving past the situation healthily. You're young. There is a lot to do, and there is, you know, there's passions to find, and there's your life to focus on. So even when you have heart, even when you have heartbreak, you should just focus on yourself and your own enjoyment. The healthiest thing to do is to drink alcohol and smoke. no that's really similar to what I was going to say

I was going to say take drugs smother it smother it yeah but the health thing you can do is just be positive and happy in yourself no yeah no no the best thing you can do is write it out feel all of it yeah that's part of it you have to do that you have to suffer through it you have to you have to feel pain yeah and love is pain and yeah and as you

have more distance from it you focus on yourself and be happy with you yeah and you just it's going to be shit deal with it bitch I don't feel like an all

encompassing thing but yeah as you said the more time passes and the more experiences you have in your life the more yeah the less

a day will come where you won't think about it and then you'll realize oh I didn't think about it today you probably won't even realize that for like a few days and something will remind you exactly yeah but that day it will come yeah you'll be reminded

you'll get to the point where you will be reminded of the situation and think oh this isn't affecting me how it used to as long as the breakup was just like an agreement then there's really nothing for you to like hang on to because it's just a people part passing, you know? Sounds like I'm saying they're dying, but it's like,

sure, if you've had a breakup that's had a result of like an argument or fight and you have some, some, like regrets. Yeah, then that's going to take some time to process, but if you've just ended a relationship healthfully,

I mean, either or. It's still painful, but you just have to get through it. I'm telling you, man, like removing the relationship part, um, Just thinking about the things when I was 17, 18, that, like, I cared about. And, like, I felt were all-encompassing and the most important things.

Now, 10 years later, it's just like... You can't even remember them. Exactly, yeah. I don't even know what I was stressing about in the same way, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give it some time.

It's just to a couple more here. I've got three more. Then we're done. Three. Carter McSwagon says Bear Bear Jar When you guys talk about video games Alex often brings up Red Dead 2 RDR2 is my favorite game of all time

So it peaked the interest of my Wild West Guna Brain And I was wondering if that's Alex's favorite game And if not, what is his favorite? I'm also very interested in hearing what James and Jim's favorites are I'm guessing cyberpunk and Arkham City Thanks for the awesome podcast guys I probably would put it as one number one for me like an easy yeah it's a good answer um because i was i was saying i played like

20 hours of cyberpunk and then i just downloaded red dead and just started playing that instead like now i'm stuck on that uh i feel like it's going to be one of those where i just returned to it every few years and just play the yeah i think it's going to be what red dead one was for me which is right yeah like just this this this inescapable like infatuation that is red dead yeah why just get to chapter two then i just start walking yeah and just the experiencing that world there's nothing like it but arkham city god damn that is a good shout do you think that'll be your pick i don't i i think it having like a favorite is too simple it's not enough games are more

than that to me. It depends what you're seeking then. I agree. Because I guess the three well I always like need a shooter I always need a shooter to play. You've just

got brain what? You've got dopamine. I mean just in the rotation. Yeah yeah because you're always going to have that need for that satisfaction of shooting game. Yeah you're right yeah that exact type of dopamine and I think that for me is battlefield one mhm slash titan full to you about for one it's just about for like of all time in terms of i guess multiplayer shooters well okay it just it just

gels with me man um and then it's dark souls arkham city red dead two yeah for me no because a few years back we did we did that whole conversation like review on red dead two like as they say ages ago um and re listening to that review like the understanding of the game was so surface level compared to what has been discovered in it now and like how much more we've played it and all the like different texture and character dynamics and all of this like stuff um i feel like yeah i every now and again my youtube home page becomes like video essays on just like single character from red dead yeah it's like that much i've watched obscene amounts of content yeah it's just yeah there's just so many cool decisions in that game with the

storytelling and like i've been spending more time just like in the camp or whatever and just listening to dialogue and yeah the amount the the the abundance of and like yeah that's an my like youtube shorts thing has become like red dead things you didn't know like compilations or whatever and there's still things I didn't know were even like possible like what I saw was if you're if you're Arthur in the camp and you know you can

you can either greet someone or aggravate someone if you just go around aggravating everyone you get chucked out for as long yeah yeah like Charles will just knock you out and be like that's enough drag you out something 99.9% of players will never see it's just like they thought of it They want you to explore, yeah.

Yeah, I can't get enough of that game. And it just looks ridiculous. Like, actually, insane. No game looks better than it. Nothing even comes close. You are right. What looks better than it? Yeah, what actually looks better than it?

There's nothing, man. There's nothing. Especially for when it came out, too. That's even crazier. The thing is, one... If you're talking about just, like, graphics... I think Ghost of Tsushima absolutely stunned me with...

It does look very good. The way it looks. But when it comes to the way it looks and the level of interactivity and stuff going on within what it is... Yeah, there's more, too. It's like the whole, like the UI design,

the colour palette and the whole red and black thing and the sound design of when you press start, when you go through the menus, like old analog stuff and like going to the the gun magazines or whatever and I saw what they actually looked like in real life and the ones in real life are even more like elaborate and like oh wow like this is so there's so much attention to detail yeah yeah it's just incredible uh James's favorite I'm a derangeful not New Vegas fan but games are more than just that there's there's a favorite for every single type of it gameplay there's a

favorite for story there's a favorite for world there's a favorites for sound like ridge razor type for look for is one of the best video game soundtracks ever made so that's one of my favorites and you've got cyberpunk for its world you've got monorferred two for its gameplay then you've got for only Vegas for its game you know it's those are different ones and gears of war two for being the best game ever made that's a shout great game An penultimate one here from Reprise 7-690, kind of referencing what I mentioned earlier. So this isn't something that I really care much about, but I just wanted to comment on a thing that I've noticed that you boys have made multiple different references throughout the podcast of stuff happening in the US, such as stuff related to politics, cultures, sports, food, and so on from there.

Yeah, I realize you haven't taught much about, say, the hot topics that are going around in France, the Netherlands, Belgium, etc. Basically, what I'm saying is that I found it kind of funny how many people from Europe, including myself, seems to know a fair amount of this stuff going on in the US. Even if it's fairly surface level, yet probably aren't aware of any of the big events happening within Europe outside from the countries that each of us European gowlings live. This is a simple...

Have you guys ever noticed this as well about the inundation and information coming from the US? Simple reason. Simple reason. English speaking languages. English-speaking countries I think beyond that as well Where does YouTube come from Where does Instagram come from

Where does Facebook come from Where does Twitter come from Where does all of these As part of America's biggest The biggest exports is like entertainment And like media and Yeah the majority of movies you watch From America

The majority of social media is from America And when you're in an English speaking country You're going to get one recommended English speaking things And most of the time That's from America. Like, I'm sure if I spoke fluent German, I'd probably get suggested German content

and I'd have a better idea of what's going on in Germany. Yeah, and it's not, uh, it's not going to sell papers if there's, like, some story from what's going on in Denmark, you know? We're a satellite country of America. It's like, American politics is like a big WWE,

like, yeah. I think it is. It's like a game show. Like, yeah. It's entertainment. It's weird. Yeah. I've obviously noticed that.

Yeah. Yeah, I've noticed and acknowledged that and internalized that a long time ago. No, it's just a bit, even if I try to get away from it. If I only follow Japanese people, the system recommends me American drama. I just want to see shit I can't understand. Uh-huh. I don't want your drama, but the systems, the algorithms want that. drama because it's engagement even like Japan is influenced by America and yeah it's you can't

escape it and to wrap this up this is kind of weird one from malicious rhino I could have put this in housekeeping but I wanted to know what Jim specifically said about this would have to say about this it's really funny that the three British white guys conclusion to the Barbie movie is I don't like its existence I'm not hating on your opinions it's just a little ironic I haven't seen it I don't think that was the takeaway and maybe you said that

I don't think you guys said that whatsoever I don't get when people comment that so there's three people speaking there's like a whole conversation I said my opinion and I might have said that you did say that you did you did an exaggerated hyperbolic

expression by the the blatant like contradiction of a yeah like a mega corp trying to rebrand and modernize an old outdated toy or whatever there is something cynical about that and it's self-aware of it yeah and it's the self-awareness within the Deadpool thing

I mean I guess given my my gender in complexion I can't talk about it um if that's the point of the movie I don't know yeah I don't know I just don't get why people do that yeah I think that's a reductive way

to interpret someone's opinion mm-hmm not listening to what you're saying just more like yeah assuming you have this intention because of who you are yeah I'm I'm we also but we both said we like the film and we both said we were glad that it was like

from a director with a voice and that yeah the issue is like I would really like the film if it wasn't Barbie. You know, if it was a made-up brand

Right. You know, if it was like a take on Barbie, but it's not. You know, that's my issue with it, is that it's... Like the inherent product placement nature of it. Yeah, it's

trying to say all these things, but it undercuts itself by being funded and selling you the thing it's criticizing yeah I guess yeah where it's debatable it's just the level of

how much that hurts the experience of the or the film because I think there's just so much like bureaucracy and the like politics and getting films made something kind of interesting and cool to me about them

they made a Barbie movie not only kind of fun and interesting to watch, but it was also a huge success. Yeah. I just found for me specifically I like

for the most part like thinking about a piece of media after I'm done with it. Yeah. I like running it over and running it over and running it over. And I found The more I did that with Barbie, the less I liked it.

As much as I liked it in the moment. Yeah, yeah. The more I ran it over, there's kind of all these cross-bys. I was more reading it more like, sometimes like a film is just not for you. Like it wasn't made for you. It wasn't made with your interests at heart or whatever, or what, your style of humor or whatever it might be. And that's fine. and I feel like that's

I think it was aiming for like 15 year old girls or whatever yeah as the main demographic and I'm not a 15 year old girl so like yeah but I don't think that that that doesn't mean any criticisms you have of it are invalid you know no but like I find yeah I just find it hard to get passionate beyond a certain level where it's like

I don't know it's not my thing yeah I don't know if we've ever read a comment quite like that before really the breaking

the like breaking us down by we're three white men basically yeah three white British man yeah that's what it's saying and that just seems disingenuous yeah I think it kind of always does

I mean depending on what is being said obviously if it's a I didn't even have an opinion. Yeah, and being inflammatory and just horrible. Saying anyone who dislikes it is a bigger. I don't think I've ever spoken about the movie

because I've literally not seen. I've done nothing. Why am I being critiqued here? What? Yeah. But also it's like what are people actually like when they're listening?

Are they actually listen? They just hear what they want to hear. Yeah. And you're more positive. on the film being a British white man and I'm less positive on the film being a British white man. How does like race and... Is this not parisocial

of them? Everything's parisocial of everyone. I would like to hear another comment from the same person flashing out. No, it's going to be... No, it's going to be... And that wasn't a YouTube comment that was left on the

suggestion thread. Yeah. So the next one's going to be a can't believe free British white men love Red Dead Redemption at glorifies so. Yeah.

I don't know. Get angry at a small. Even though you could you can make a strong argument that Red Dead Redemption 2 is woke as far. Yeah, I think you could. This is the thing. You can do it with...

Yeah, you can do it with anything. You can say something is either way when it comes to art, for the most part. I like that joke about the Sopranos Where people will be saying the Sopranos is woke Because he's like going to his therapist

He's got anxiety And he's like There's like gay characters that are like in the closet And all this kind of stuff Yeah release it now And people be like this woke shit Yeah everything's got to be viewed through this lens now If you know it doesn't

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Would you like, would you like to know the new rules? Yeah, I could shoot. There's more of sort of a, uh, I don't know, in the, in the, in the mood of cancel culture, I thought, I would rename everyone to be a cancelled comedian, um, as a way to cheer them on. Shut up. Cheer them on to bring them back. So what you're doing is you're basically revoking our Patreon's, um, pledge by renaming them completely. You're undoing the whole point of the bit. Right.

Joe Rogan, the Ruben Report. He was a comedian. He was comedian. Stephen Crowder. Yeah, he was a comedian as all. Yeah, it's the pipeline. It's failed comedian to alt-right commentary. Joe Rogan isn't failed, though.

Yeah, he's a popular comedian. I wasn't including him. But, yeah, that is a pipeline. You're not funny enough. I'm talking more about Stephen Crowder. Racist. Arthur, voice acting. Peak.

Comedy. down. YouTube content? Peek. No, his YouTube content isn't peak. How much he gets clowned for his YouTube content is peak?

It's very popular, man. Yeah, he's popular with people who have the grand total of like six brain cells. It's not really an achievement. Anyway, what are we talking about? What are we even doing? Patron, patron.

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