JAR Media Posdact - The STINKIES - JARCast Episode 301

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 07:31 Housekeeping 17:33 JAR Address The Controvers...ial JAR ARG 27:12 Fallout New-Trans-ness 32:05 The Coffee JARling 38:31 Mid Break 40:27 Jim or James on Sard 41:27 Jim Talks about his Chickens 44:47 Current Exercise Routines 51:45 James Taps Out 59:29 The Edgy Humour Conundrum 1:23:04 JAR Tattoo Ideas 1:25:37 The Teacher Smacks Down

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Biden shouts. Biden shards. Biden shards. Biden. Biden. Biden. Do you do Do you
Starting point is 00:00:33 Do you think that's what like apes do when they get like it's like the equivalent thing It's like there's footage of like apes where they like pick up a stick and start just making dunes Dune's But Biden Sharts do you do stop my name is bread my name is Brett
Starting point is 00:01:05 bread or bread good afternoon morning evening on night ladies and gentlemen my name is James today we are on episode 331 nope
Starting point is 00:01:17 no we're operator 301 I'm your host Alex joined by Jim and James say your catchphrases guys
Starting point is 00:01:28 Biden shots This is my catchphrase Your mom Ha ha ha ha ha Come on Cleo driver, get into it Yeah Yeah Yeah man
Starting point is 00:01:51 No don't Don't Don't Let's bring the mood down Let's calm down Those listening will be stressed Good afternoon, morning, evening on night, ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:02:06 This is episode That's my catchphrase All right, yeah, yeah Introing again and again Do you want to go with Uh... Come on, Fergie, free birding Lower cost and lower class
Starting point is 00:02:22 And unrefined Or Problem Create Problem create Problem create Problem create Problem create Do do do do Do you not have an opinion
Starting point is 00:02:36 Go through them again So we got Come on Fergie Free birding Lower class and unrefined Or problem create Problem create is the answer I'm
Starting point is 00:02:49 That's the name of this one then Problem create Problem create. Do you know what doesn't create problems? The lovely patrons over at patreon.co.com. Thank you all for your support, making the audio versions of the show possible. We really love for you and shit. That's the kind of masterful segue you can only do after you've done 3,000 episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But it takes another 3,000 episodes for you to not call attention to the masterful segue. Nah. It takes another 3,000 to be Joe Rogan level. Yeah. no we've officially done more podcasts than him really yeah he's just copying us anyway yeah well let's be real most um podcasts have we we we created before the influx of copygats
Starting point is 00:03:42 yeah charaders so what does it mean it means we started a brave new venture into it we're like um jack sparrow venturing out into the uncharted abyss. Yeah. We're like Jack Sparrow. Me hearty. James, do your best pirate voice? Okay, so you're asking me, James, to do a pirate impression.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Me hearty, where's me boobble booze? I need a little cannon on my ship. I like that. Give me a character to do. You're Jack Spower. No, you're not Jack Spower. I can't be a pirate either. You're a CEO of the West Indies company.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Um, so. Okay, my turn. Okay, your turn. Who can you be? Woguan, me hearties! What? I really like me hearties. This is an actually, a really old callback to an original jar.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Where I said when putting the lasagna or whatever in the And I said, Darcy in the goals. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Davy Jones, locker alert. No, think about it. What's the accent of pirates?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Uh, we're. Oh, Wiltscher. Exactly. Pirates originated from our very beautiful. Did they actually? Yeah, they sailed down the, the Chippenham Canal to the ocean and just set sail for unbound borders. think about it You write me orities
Starting point is 00:05:23 Right me horridges Yeah Plummer had to come the other day And he had a very thick Wutcher accent Yeah It's very I find it very charming
Starting point is 00:05:36 It is a charming But did you know it was voted Like the least intelligent sounding accent In the country They call that classism Well yeah But we're also a tall we state Well typically
Starting point is 00:05:49 surprising, you'd assume that British people would vote any northern accent to be that. Mm-hmm. But they didn't. Even though they have like the best accents around. Yeah. Not true.
Starting point is 00:06:03 What'd be not true? Not true. What's the best British accent? Yeah. You know, it's like so, whenever we visit our family up north, like it's like the most warming, welcoming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:17 accent like lovely you know it's like you know like you know like a hearty meal it's like that as a voice yeah yeah like a hearty meal of your arm i just think the scottish accent is much nicer a good scottish accent that's up there's scotland isn't in the uk is i know that's i just said it's better i didn't specify actually like i saw like a comment or something uh someone observing this how small the UK really is compared to a lot of other countries but the diversity of accents is huge
Starting point is 00:06:54 and that's really fun it's because you choose what your accent is yeah accents aren't will what no in this country you don't choose I mean you do choose everywhere else you just you just
Starting point is 00:07:07 get what you have here we're like hmm I like aspects of this one but I'm really going to choose this one You know? Yeah, I, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I keep going. Hmm. Well, guys, things are looking pretty, pretty dirty around here. Oh my God, that was the cringiest fucking thing up with I heard. What do you mean? What was wrong with that? Everything. you love when I do that when the cameras aren't rolling when do you say that to James
Starting point is 00:07:53 when the cameras aren't rolling all the time really no stop lying well I won't stop introducing the housekeeping segment where we round off some of the more controversial or kind of thought-provoking comments from the previous episode um like lofus who said
Starting point is 00:08:17 in regards to the last episode this was a great celebratory episode you guys basically hit every single fundamental jar concepts truly the Avengers end game of podcasts that's what was playing in my head on loop the whole time can we stop reference to make it like comparing everything to the shittest fucking movie
Starting point is 00:08:36 ever made like no I like it I know that devalues it it devalues that movie you did devalues literally every thing. It's just like, oh, here's this thing with loads of unique... You loved that movie. This movie, this has got loads of unique traits. No, when Captain America captures the Iron Man sword, you've
Starting point is 00:08:52 lost your goddamn mind. Oh, this has loads of unique qualities. It's quite unique and it's quite cool. Oh, let's look compare it to the most sluggiest bullshit imaginable. Come on. We deserve better than being compared to Marvel. No, I saw... We all know
Starting point is 00:09:08 that Justice League is like a much better movie and it combines the different various characters in a much better way. this makes sense all along James has been one of those Snyder cut guys DCEUer DCEUA They've actually changed it
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah DCEU I don't know what the E means I thought it's DCU now No it's DCEU Yeah DCEU DC Comics European Union No no I was going to say I saw something this morning
Starting point is 00:09:37 Some kind of post somewhere Where it was Someone showing off their like comic collection and in the comments they referenced that they'd named their son Thanos but I did more digging and it turned out
Starting point is 00:09:57 this father he'd thought about this a lot calling a son Thanos because of course it's on surface level it's a bit like it's a bit strange It's like calling your son Anacan Which is a really good name Or Dineries
Starting point is 00:10:18 Really cute name But then Because people in the comments are obviously being brutal Calling him bad father Saying he's a bad person for naming his son Thanos But guess what Turns out the guy's Greek It's a Greek name
Starting point is 00:10:32 Loads of people call Thanos Wee That's kind of an epic win Yeah and he's going to grow up to be a a glover yeah do you remember when James had the gauntlet
Starting point is 00:10:49 what would you snap out we talked about this we've done this we've done this before what did I say you would snap out marble yeah that's literally what we said nah no ask the guy on Reddit he'll know
Starting point is 00:11:06 yeah I'm right it's true we do forget things a lot I don't. Deluxe distraite says... I've got a really particular memory where I remember everything. I love how you can absolutely tell when the boys are looking at themselves on that TV behind the camera. No, you can't. No, there's just a really funny thing that's there to look at that makes us giggle.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Tank Dempsey is literally there. Yeah, tank Dempsey's there. For those that want a little peep behind the curtain, it's kind of a way we keep the chaos going. Every time we get too serious, we just remind ourselves to look over there, and it brings things down. No, we're being held at gunpoint. We're not funny enough, we get locked. Yeah, Andrew Tate is sat over there with an M-16. No, a crossboat.
Starting point is 00:11:57 We talked a little bit about people watching films like, meme films, like Morbius, in earnest. You know, people who aren't terminally online, you know. Like me? Yeah. and a yellow family funny said My dad watched Morbius about a week ago And he's a very casual entertainment enjoyer He said it was pretty good
Starting point is 00:12:17 And when I tried to explain the meme around it And it statters And could tell he was completely lost I only felt bad Like I was taking that enjoyment away from him Let people enjoy things Just because they like shit movies Just just they like shit movies
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah No one likes that person The Buzz Killer Yeah He's like, someone will be like, oh, I watch this movie, um, Star Wars, Ray's Rising or whatever. And then, and then the person they're talking to is like, Oh, that, it really isn't very good.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Mm. It's like, well, don't, don't tell this person who likes a thing that they're wrong, you know? Mm. You can be like, oh, really? I didn't like it that much. And then you can have a chat, but don't be like, oh, what would you? Oh. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:10 So you're saying everyone is like your opinion, man. Yeah, like everyone, when you think about it, is a free speaker. But also trying to explain memes to anyone that isn't in, that isn't or has never been terminally online in a youthful sense. Yeah. You know, that it's just like, what's the point? What do you think is the cutoff point where like, like memes you know
Starting point is 00:13:39 40 no it's not an age thing because some old people will get on there and just like kill you know they'll just click with it and like so you think some of the best memers out there are actually like 60 year olds who just like love it no I'm thinking like do you remember
Starting point is 00:13:56 um when rainbow six siege was big there was the guy that did like adverts yeah or like um The African guy, what's his name? For what?
Starting point is 00:14:10 You just pay him and he'll read your thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember his name, but I don't, YMS is used him a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah. And it's not like he's not aware, but he's utilised meme currency. He's monetized memes. Yeah, and he is the meme that he's monetized. Clever.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Clever one. Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty luck boy. Um, ooh, Raru, sorry, car, I just said, Kahoo says, the snapping turtle of truth is also a normal episode reference. Quote Alex, because you're the snapping turtle of truth, question mark. It was a reference to James prompting the others to guess why he could get away with wearing ugg boots. so I guess it's I guess it is something speaking of things we just forgot that's a terrible quote yeah I like it it's just kind of random minion enough for me yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:15:20 the snap snapping snitch of truth James is the snitch have we talked about that on job yes yes you don't need to talk about there is a this one's kind of scary to be real okay There's this comment from someone called Rhinoverse where they just said another podcast added to the list I was really intrigued by it so I figured what has he got like a playlist going on his channel
Starting point is 00:15:52 where he's like adding things he likes to a list Is this a phone call from him now That's just a reminder to subscribe Oh yep everyone Click the bell down below So, subscribe and get notifications for upcoming episodes and videos with James' dad where he reviews. Yeah, Rhinoverse, like, I had a little look at his channel. I found this crazy playlist called The Great Shit You Well Ever Find on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It's got four videos in it. Oh. The first video, Minecraft PE, FnaffMap Showcase. 2. How to crawl through vents in MCPE 0.17.01 beta. Parentheses or 0.17.0. It don't matter. Mata. 3. IP for Mindplex PE. Minecraft PE. And finally, Star Wars gameplay. High Pixel Pocket Edition server. You're missing this.
Starting point is 00:17:01 It's an ARG playlist He's trying to get us to go down an ARG pipeline You're obsessed with this idea These are his own videos Yeah, bro, that's ARG shit Trust me The great shit you will ever find on YouTube The great shit you will ever find
Starting point is 00:17:20 Are we being clowned No, yes, there's an AERG There'll be there'll be Easter eggs in those videos including us Are you afraid that you're a clown I are clown James I can't believe you actually forgot there are there actually are two ARGs in jail already
Starting point is 00:17:39 The fucking It's not a fucking ARG Fuck off with that bullshit Ew we're gonna hide a EC Oh ARG There's no fucking There's no game these people have to be involved in
Starting point is 00:17:56 Someone Some Jaling recently has like just gone in deep on the gel media you know like Wikipedia thing the wiki they filled in so many pages
Starting point is 00:18:12 including the EC page and it it's like it's like so much data it's like actually kind of scary but there's no data there no bro there is they have got do you want me to read it no but this is the thing that for EC
Starting point is 00:18:26 See, there's nothing more to it then, it's a... No, but it was a character, it was a nice guy. No, I disagree with it. And to be honest, it was also influenced by someone who should have never had influence from the fucking beginning. You. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah, should I?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Or should I leave it? It is, no The, it is. No, the It's James. Gorgas. No, listen. So the top of the page, the quote is, there's more to this story than you know.
Starting point is 00:19:08 There's more than you think. This is connected to everything. Everything. James on the EC. I never said that. You did. I actually did not say that. EC also known as the secret project.
Starting point is 00:19:20 It's an extremely secretive JAR Media Project, which has been in development hell since 2017. It is possibly a documentary on a white cat named Gorgas, nicknamed the EC of which Alex was obsessed with and became an inside joke for him, likely due to its apparent lack of ears. No evidence is given towards what EC stands for, but earless cat could be assumed. The EC is very secretive. Alex has continued to keep it a secret and does not mention the cat because he believes jarlings are undeserving of it. As such, little information has been given. However, with many jarlings doing research on the EC by gathering clues from various
Starting point is 00:19:57 ears of the podcast, the EC has become the closest thing to a jar, ARG or conspiracy theory, and is likely at the bottom of the journal media iceberg development. The jar boys appear to have little work done on the project. In 2018, Jim admitted they've done nothing, even after they announced the project a year and a half again. In 2019, Alex and James said it was in pre-production. And half the footage was done, but nothing else was finished. The project was likely a documentary of sorts about the white cat, as hinted at by Jim in the worst Shane Dawson documentary, where he references how John had a documentary on the way about a cat.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Alex has planned shirts of the EC, likely when the documentary comes out. In 2018, Jim spilled the beans on the EC's secrecy, saying that the cat's going to die before we do anything. in 2021 when talking about the project the cast heavily implied the cat actually died before they were able to finish and making jim's joke a reality james said that with the cat gone it was impossible to complete but like said that they could still do it posthumously giving carrie fisher in the sequel trilogy is a good example evidence some evidence about the subject of the EC has been unintentional and that someone had forgotten or was unaware about the fact that it was a secret while some are intentional clues shirts in the episode 77 of the yogs razor flesh jim Alex and Rubin wear shirts with the white cats on them with Jim's being the most noticeable as it only has the cat's face notably appearing to lack ears the shirt Shirts were also referenced in episode 92 from 2017, where Alex hints at an idea he has for Jail merch glancing over at the EC poster when Jim seems confused about what he's on about. In a cast five years later, Jim states that the boys made E.C. shirts likely making the EC the reason why he got the shirt. Alex still knows where the shirts are as of June 2022.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Photos. From September 2017 until the Corncast, there was a poster on the wall of the jar. set with what appears to be three photos of a white cat. Despite appearing in so many casts, there have been no clear images of it. There is something scribbled at the top, possibly something written, maybe EC or a drawn face. When Alex and James did a tour of the set, James attempted to point the camera at the EC pictures, but Alex stopped him from doing so, saying, it's a secret, showing further evidence that the cat is connected to the secret project. James called it the best thing in the room, despite how he said he disliked Alex's obsession for the EC in the past. And there's the R slash sad cringe post.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Alex has said that the EC is in the sad cringe post somewhere. The icon for brother is the image of a white cat. Do you remember that? That's true, yeah, because, yeah, my picture. Yeah, it was the EU. Wow. And finally, trivia. James hates the EC project, calling it unfunny, and that it lacked an idea.
Starting point is 00:23:08 He did lack an idea Um A plush of a white cat Can be seen in some videos Another cat also appearing to be earless Can be seen on the table On every cast since episode 281 Dude we've earned
Starting point is 00:23:23 Arslash FNAF Yeah This is the level of like Effort people going to find out that story This is nuts Yeah This is like the deepest digging I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah, when the EC is mentioned in one cast James pulls the plush out. It is unknown if it is connected to the EC or the project or whether they're just plushies of white cats. On a tweet from Alex about the EC, James once replied, I have EC knowledge that I can leak and you can't stop me. Um, and there's a funny screenshot there. Oh, is that? Yeah. How is that not an ARG? It is, but we've not done anything with it. We've done tons with it.
Starting point is 00:24:15 How is that not tons? I know of way, I know. It's turned out to be better this way than whatever. I know, I know of ways to make an IRG just on things on that wall. If you're not, if you, if you, if you, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, it's the thing. It's easy. It's to say it hasn't always been that way. No, but here's the thing is there. The location's already there.
Starting point is 00:24:34 We just have to string up together the dots. If you want EC, you. better start fucking looking. I've got a question there. And this might be the start of an ARG, but... Take your hand like this. Everyone do this, and now point your finger as far back as you can.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Do you get that weird feeling in your finger? No, that's not an ARG. It hurts. Do you get that there? Yeah. Do you know what I used to think it was? What? I used to think your finger was like entering another dimension.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Hmm. You're more stupid. I thought I was a child man yeah that's a no that that's genuinely
Starting point is 00:25:19 incredible yeah no when I found that page the other day I was like losing it couldn't believe this is like the ultimate payoff for me yeah this is way better than I'm not going to say that
Starting point is 00:25:31 yeah no I got big plans yeah huge plans let's just say the lights is always darkest before the dawn. Yeah. True. And don't worry.
Starting point is 00:25:47 The part where James started and gave too much away will be gone. Yeah. Yeah. I already knew like the second he started running his mouth. You're being suppressed. You better not start leaking shit.
Starting point is 00:26:03 No. If they want it, they've just got to slip me if you 10s, 20s, I can leak You got nothing to leak We've given you nothing to leak Apart from smoke and mirrors You have nothing to work with You have no meat
Starting point is 00:26:19 On the bone To sell nothing The video The footage you have for the video Is in the original group chat I've got all the footage on my phone bro No but I can access the footage
Starting point is 00:26:32 I can access the version leak it Mm-mm Yeah It won't still be there man And I got, I got, I got, I got, I got heaps that you two don't even know about. Yeah, but one video is enough to blow your fucking project out of the water. It's not. I know.
Starting point is 00:26:46 No, they're, they're, talking of, speaking of icebergs, this is like the tip of the iceberg, of a whole new iceberg. You know, it's like you swim underwater and find the bottom of the iceberg, but what's at the bottom, just another iceberg? Will you reveal how much is correct, or should we just leave it? No, I think it's more fun the other way. Yeah. They're mostly wrong anyway. so whatever. The last thing to end this was,
Starting point is 00:27:12 I don't know, we talk about Fallout New Vegas basically every episode at this point. It might as well be a repairing second. Yeah, because James, I'm really sorry about that. James is always complaining how we talk about Marvel or behavior or something, which we do like every 10, 20 episodes. Two, three. Every single episode, we're talking about New Vegas.
Starting point is 00:27:33 It's not a 30 minute discussion like it was in the early days of JAR. What? Don't mock me. No, but this is the thing. We were talking about this idea that New Vegas is particularly popular in the trans community. Yeah. And there was a bunch of comments and feedback about this, which I found very interesting. Like Bird, who said, okay, so here's my best guess on the New Vegas trans topic.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It has tremendous gay representation for a game that came out over a decade ago. Veronica is a kick-ass brotherhood lesbian, and arcade is a fascinating anarchist gay dude. gay dude. That's sons of fascist soldiers. The DLC features Veronica's girlfriend. Your main character can be gay, by lesbian, and if I'm remembering correctly into ghouls, not to mention Fisto, the fisting robot. For a person who is going through gender identity stuff all their life or formative years and dealing with who they're attracted and what it means to be a man or a woman, this might have been a really memorable and cool experience. Basically the key takeaway here is that New Vegas is gay. Don't at me. And also, uh,
Starting point is 00:28:36 Lidreel said the fallout New Vegas thing caught me really off guard. I'm a trans woman and I've never played a Fallout game. I've heard both and good things about them. Sorry, I've heard both good and bad things about them. But when someone who has played the games ask me which one I like, I always just say New Vegas, purely because it has the nicest boxer. I've never had any desire to play the games, nor will I have. But the way the trans people seem to gravitate towards this game in particular is so bizarre
Starting point is 00:29:00 that I thought I'd share. Play New Vegas. Just do it. the egg, you know. Chicken or the egg. The answer's the egg, by the way. The answer is playing New Vegas. Is New Vegas the chicken or the egg?
Starting point is 00:29:17 New Vegas is the fish that led to the chicken. Wow. So you say New Vegas is the first fish to, like, crawl out the ocean? Yep, that's New Vegas. Hmm. Damn.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Surely the first thing to crawl out the ocean was like a seal. Seals weren't real. Or a crocodile? Yeah, more likely a crocodile. What about a worm or a snake? Probably a worm. Not a snake.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Snakes suck. No, they're cool. No, they don't. What, you want to be slithering, do you? Yeah. No slithering for me. I'm more kind of Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw, you know? I'd make my own house, cool guy, uh, uh, clan.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Hmm. The cool kid crew. Only the most badass rebel wizards are allowed in my crew. Sort of grey wizards, not good, not bad. Yeah, grey wizards. What about grey knights? Mmm. Can a knight, knight a knight?
Starting point is 00:30:31 I don't know, can they? I don't know, I was asking in earnest, I don't know. Please, if you're a knight, can you leave a comment? Yeah, and can you please knight us if you're a knight? Ooh. Nights can't knight nights. Can they knight non-nights? How good do you think your podcast has to be, to be knighted over it?
Starting point is 00:30:56 How what? How good does your podcast have to be knighted over it? Um, um, entertainment. You just have to do it long enough. You have to make the queen laugh, which is really hard now. Fuck. And there's no making that king laugh. I know, I bet you, I bet you I could get a little smile out of him. You gotta just say it any slur. Yeah, he'd cackle. He would cackle.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And knight you on the spot. He would. You're going to knight you for this. Should we do our challenge of the first one to get knighted? Yeah, what do we get if we get knighted? You become the wool of jar. So every decision and every creative choice comes under your control. How do you get knighted?
Starting point is 00:31:42 That's what I'm saying. Let's get the king in on our ARG. Yeah, maybe if we make the greatest ARG of the time. Yeah, it'll be a work of art and then we'll get knighted for it. Nighted for the best ARG yet. James House. Yeah, I want to shout out the guy who went to a jarling, I don't know his name, who went to our regular coffee place and got bullied by the... Yeah, we have, we literally have...
Starting point is 00:32:17 Bully them? Yeah. Mark busted his bull, his balls. Because he started walking and asking for us, and Mark had our back. You know, he's a bit, you know, he's our security detail. Yeah, Mark was like, you're not a problem, are you? You're not going to be a problem. jokingly yeah but i think he was a bit flustered yeah if if you don't get the confirmation from mark
Starting point is 00:32:37 to see us you ain't seeing us i'm sorry you got to get every mark yeah it's mark's establishment you know so that's badass you know if you walk in there you ain't going to those backrooms you got to get permission mm-hmm and we're in the backrooms you know we're like the the gangsters in the mafia they get their whole like back rooms themselves like the smoke all around with fat stagos, yeah. Yeah, loads of screens playing each and every individual Star Wars movie. Yeah, and just heaps of monitors of porn.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So when you next come there, you know, you've got to mark up a little bit. You ain't just going to let you walk in and see us. Did this guy get a drink or anything? I hope he did. Or did he just walk in be like, Where are they? And then
Starting point is 00:33:27 Slams his fist down Where are they Tell me where they are you son of a bitch Yeah Get out of here There's no trouble here today In this establishment Mark turns around
Starting point is 00:33:41 Because we're in the back And he screams around Oh shit they're here Tommy gun Tommy gun fire Yeah man Fuck Imagine being a gangster
Starting point is 00:33:53 In like the 40s Horrible. It would be amazing. It would be awesome. Imagine never knowing if you're going to live to the next day. That would be lit. Horrible. That would be exciting.
Starting point is 00:34:02 That wouldn't be exciting, bro. It would be like, shit, I'm going to live it up right now. You end up in a nightclub smoking stogies, just having a chat. And then you and your mate go out in the morning to get, I know, a fresh coffee and then you get gun down. Gun down. Yeah, walk out. Yeah. And you get to drive the sickest cars.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Cars wear cool, but then. Yeah. And suits. That's a highlight. No seat outside. No, but imagine just walk around with a Tommy gun. Yeah, a bit scary. Yeah, we, no, because...
Starting point is 00:34:28 They're cool guns. Yeah. Big John Mag, you're bloody... You know? Into the enemy's coffee shops, you know? Yeah. I prefer a more manual. Oh, Alex is the harbour enforcer then, he tortures all our enemies.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I grow bamboo people. If we were in a, like in the mafia, right? Mm. Back in the 40s or whatever. You would be the guy in the basement that, like, tortures, the... Well, I'm the one who deals... I'm the one that gets the info. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Because you're the scariest. Mm. Yeah. I mean, Jamie, just the, you know, with the... What do you think? My, like, my torture... Hey, tell me. Like, really, like, off-the-wall creative torture techniques.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah. You have to walk through fear, bro. I don't, I don't lay a single finger on them. It's all psychological. Yeah. Yeah, you fuck them up completely. No, you just sit on a toilet in front of them. Just, like, farting and shit.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Like, diareing into the toilet Yeah, with that exact stance, like, really stupid. Yeah, it's like... And then everyone fears us, but they don't want to fight us because we're just fucking town on. Yeah. Farming, we're cring. Yeah, we're far.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Word will spread soon of the fear. Oh, shit. It's the stinkies. What the fuck is the stinkies? Oh, I'm roasting up in here. Yeah, I'm going, I'm done. What's like that, the stinkies, like rivals. it really wasn't that funny man
Starting point is 00:36:35 no it was okay oh shit named after the torture guy yeah because he's the one that everyone's afraid of you know we have they never see him that's what this fear is that you think he's like a
Starting point is 00:36:56 bigger than he is don't take me to the back from stinky yeah um fuck shit man
Starting point is 00:37:05 shit man do you think we're ever going to be in a situation where we're going to be able to go
Starting point is 00:37:13 run like for real um yeah in the forest outside the king's arms I hope so like what's what's like a situation that's not too scary do you ever just do that thing where
Starting point is 00:37:29 like you get yourself into this sort of like scared excitable state yeah and you're like and you're just like bigging up this thing like imagining something behind you and then you're like fuck i'm gonna just like run up the stairs all the time you just like and then suddenly your heart starts going like blah blah and it gets really like whoa yeah we would get that yeah and it doesn't take much legit if we were in the in the forest like by the king's arms and one of us just like did something
Starting point is 00:38:01 was just like oh shit run my run we would all of us would just start fucking I feel like that's that's like if he'd finally be able to prove you the fastest yeah what do you mean finally that doesn't count it's not that it doesn't count it just means you were the fastest at that time
Starting point is 00:38:19 yeah I've lost a bit of weight then I've gone a bit lightweight now. Good. Good. Well, we see you after these motherfucking messages. Buy bear bear, buy bear bear. I do declare buy bear bear bear. Bear bear shirts and mug available now.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Check the description below. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. What cool accent should I do for this bit? None. Your mom? A Japanese accent.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Okay. Hello. Hi hi. Hi hi. What's up? Yo, what's up guys? Let's go find some secrets in the Everglade. Welcome to the second half of the cast, where we...
Starting point is 00:39:32 Find secrets in the Everglades. Yeah, we head over to the Everglade and pick up all those juicy, rare tidbits of questions from the community. Oh, really? Are you talking about the blue loot? What, the Blue Lagoon? The blue loot. You know, there's like white loot. Blue loot. Oh, rare. Green loot.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Oh yeah, green loot first. Uncommon. Blue loot. Rare. Purple loot. Prime. And then yellow. Yellow.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yeah, exotic. Yeah, exotic. Yeah. Ain't that right, Tupac? And they wondered where he went. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Did I say that this is the question bit? Yeah, where we head over to the Everglade.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yeah, of course. Alex Quermere can start us off. Bear bear worms, I have a very important question. Could James or Jim ever be invited to a Sardonicast as guests? I think a Fast and Furious episode with James would be epic. Thoughts? Uh, maybe. Well, that's the truth, though, as Jim has actually filled in for me many times
Starting point is 00:40:48 and no one's nice. Yeah. No, like, it's literally as easy as this. Shall I do the impression of you right now? Yeah. What's up,
Starting point is 00:40:58 bros? Welcome to the Everglay. No, that's the thing. The more I try to do an impression of you, the less I sound like you. I just have to be a little bit less like down with the youth. You know,
Starting point is 00:41:18 mean yeah yeah you need to be a bit of an old speckled hand yeah old speckled fart have we ever talked about my hens are the kens I'm a big fan of the hands really yeah it's the dinosaur thing chickens dinosaurs dinosaurs yeah so I've had chickens for like
Starting point is 00:41:53 a while now yeah and I don't know how anyone can respect a chicken ooh okay we're gonna have a controversial one no because like do you do if if
Starting point is 00:42:07 if there's like a like Rishi Suna right do you respect him what okay Liz trust do you respect her no look this is what I'm saying you ask me something real respect is something that's almost like a two-way street
Starting point is 00:42:34 I don't think you're gonna really respect someone who doesn't respect you and chickens don't see you as a living thing no they see you as a living thing that's a living thing that they would love to eat if they were bigger than you if chickens were 12 foot tall oh yeah they would just gobbling no they'd be the the apex of the planet they're genuinely scary yeah which which feeds into the dinosaur thing terror birds like these that was a real thing while like early man was around
Starting point is 00:43:05 yeah as we know them now but like big predatory birds monkey man that could easily kill you. Kill the monkey. We're running around with these giant serrated beaks. Yeah, did they have wings back then? Like... They were flightless because they were so big.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah, but why did they have... Why did the wings come from? Like, I guess... I guess they were flying birds at the same time. Yeah. You know. It's kind of like now, like, you know, penguins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:34 But yeah, that's... I think birds are the scariest living things. Yes. No, because watching those chickens, when I first met them was like just watching the move and stuff it's like that you could really picture like when you were colossal
Starting point is 00:43:50 and capable of ruling the world yeah I guess I guess the the moral of this conversation we just had is that I kind of do respect them yeah I learned respect from that and I learned I overcame my fear because I found them a bit frightening at first
Starting point is 00:44:08 but then you learn like like when you go to pick them up they're just like uh yeah they're like squat down and they're like just ready for it yeah you just pick them up yeah they make funny noises and they just eat everything yeah rats frogs yeah slow worms snakes snakes oh anyway what are we talking about Rishi Sunak oh oh jar politics corner um hmm ooh wow stick them up says current exercise routines eh ha i was doing really well for a while what are you doing i was going to the gym either two or three times a week and then like like is it like five days right so it would be gym
Starting point is 00:45:11 Monday, go for a run, Tuesday. Jim Wednesday, go for a run Thursday. And then, well, to be honest, I'd normally falter on the Friday, to be honest. But I had a pretty regular thing. Right. And if it wasn't gym Monday, then I'd run Monday and then gym Tuesday or vice versa or whatever. And I was doing that for a while. And then the clock's changed or you just let one day slip.
Starting point is 00:45:39 it's like giving yourself that that inch you know it becomes the mile yeah it's it's a conversation we've often had on jar based on like the routine of that period and it's so frustrating to recognize
Starting point is 00:45:58 the thing that's like your head saying I should do some exercise today I should go for a run or go to the gym and then your brain's like like well I didn't yesterday so you've already kind of messed that up so does does that not make you kind of respect
Starting point is 00:46:16 the rock in a way kind of like how you learn to like respect the chicken where it's like man like yeah what you say about the guy that he is he is doing that shit every damn day yeah and but the
Starting point is 00:46:32 the thing is I've I've never let it become enough of a routine that's where I need to get with it um and i think one thing that would really help would be getting up quite early because it's really easy for if you've got a plan to do something at 7 p.m. for in your head throughout the whole day you might be like i'm going to do this i'm going to do this i'm going to do this you finish work or whatever that day something comes up and you're like man i'm exhausted I can justify it no going today yeah I'll do it tomorrow yeah I'll do
Starting point is 00:47:10 extra on an on a day I don't normally do it and then you get round to that day you don't normally do it and you're like yeah but I don't normally do it this day so then you don't do it it's like it's the same thing I've talked about with like cigarette addiction your brain is like trying to find ways it's the inverse of cigarettes your brain is trying to find ways out of it instead of reasons to stay in it's yeah yeah part of the thing about the like consistency that is required or i don't know is a a goal that people are after is um just kind of how it's like repetitive um so what i've been trying to do as of late is like mix it up a little bit go for a hike a couple days like a nice long one a couple days in the week
Starting point is 00:48:04 another day go on the treadmill use the gym or whatever but there's always the sneaky like basically like no matter what room you're in you can pretty much like just do some push-ups or whatever you know if you just get that get that inspiration yeah just try to sneak them in Yeah, I also think the trick is to, like, ease into it, you know, like... Because you kept doing that thing where you were pushing way too hard. Yeah, fucking yourself. Burning yourself up. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:38 That's something I was always prone to. And it was, it's like quite a... It's, like, everyone's heard the term, no pain, no gain. Mm-hmm. So then you can get yourself into a state where you're like, well, I'm in loads of pains. so I must be making loads of gains. Yeah. And it's like, no.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Not necessarily. You're just kind of like ruining the next few days so you can't. Or worst case, you could actually be like injuring your body like long term. Yeah, straight up. But I think if you're someone that doesn't exercise and you want to get into it, like really ease yourself into it. It was like running for me because I'm, I've always been terrible at any long distance. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:23 running and it was just like okay I'm going to run for 10 minutes that's it one I found like a lap I can do that takes me about 10 minutes and I just started off just that 10 minutes and then in a week or two I was doing two laps doubling the time but doubling the amount of time you're running for isn't like oh it will take 20 minutes then it's more like it will take 25 I would say um even even if you don't want to dip your toe in running running just start with walking yeah yeah because then I found like after walking enough and getting like you know like walking pretty quick and power walking everywhere yeah almost like you just want to go faster and then you're just like but also a thing when you're starting running um because when you start running your body's so not used to it for that 10 minute run I wasn't running the whole time yeah it was like five minutes of walking five minutes of a light jog because my my cardiovascular health is is pretty bad so you've got to like ease your body into that stuff if it's not used to it like and you can't expect to get that 10 minutes down
Starting point is 00:50:36 to five minutes in a week it's not going to happen it's just like the fact that you're out doing it is more important than how well you're doing it what about like muscle memory it definitely exists yeah I don't know enough to be able to say anything with authority you know yeah because like it's not like when I've stopped like doing lifting weights for literally months on end I have gone months without doing it when I go back to it it's not like I've lost a bunch of strength and your your body wouldn't but you know you build it back up pretty
Starting point is 00:51:29 quick although it might feel at first that like you can't do it because you've done it before your body sort of knows how to get back to where you were before mm-hmm that's how it feels anyway agreed I think I need her time you're done I'm in a level of fucking Well, he's gone. He's gone. Poor boy's got the Nuggy illness. He got the Poo-Poo's. Can't record a podcast with Poo-Poo.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You simply can't record a podcast with Poo-Poo-Poo. Nuggy Poo-Poo-Bee-Poo. Be honest. You've recorded some pretty long Sardonicusts. Do you ever wear a nappy? Um, I'll drop this little bit of behind the scenes, behind the curtain action every episode I record naked
Starting point is 00:52:24 really so do you get poo stones on your office chair I don't actually sit on an office chair oh standing desk I've got this like plastic IKEA chair that like I don't know just like supports my back nice makes no noise
Starting point is 00:52:43 because the office chair I've got like it makes a little squeak yeah as I'm writhing around thinking about black Adam or whatever is happening and poo is easy to wipe off of oh it's so easy because it's like a bright yellow chair so any little stain it's like it looks like a bumblebee by the time I'm done
Starting point is 00:53:02 um so shit's black yeah what you never had that you never even three tubes of warriors yeah that's true that's true looking like a Dalmatian Oh, Loi. Yeah, so James, I guess, has food poisoning.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Yeah, he gave himself the poohs. With the nugget wipe. Yeah, James did the nugget wipe. Alex, um, was it last week or the week before? You, you ate fries directly off a McDonald's table. Yeah, yeah, I made the mistake of eating in like a really gross McDonald's. not off a tray yeah you just you just like
Starting point is 00:53:49 throw out I don't know what I was I don't know and then James was mocking you today and he was like Alex you're such a baby and then he gets his chicken nugget grinds it on the table and then eats it and a bunch of fries
Starting point is 00:54:04 yeah he just kept doing it he was like fuck all of you and he just kept like pretty much licking the table he might as well have licked the table yeah yeah all the bacteria that was on there is inside of him now yeah and and then he's sat here and he's like guys my stomach is really hurt no it's like really why do you think that happened you're gonna be shit my boy yeah he's gonna spray poo which he already was doing which he said when he
Starting point is 00:54:35 you're right yeah yeah poopy poopy days we is it like actually cringy how much we talk about poo. Like, not just on the cast, but like, it's like we always talk about poo and farts and stuff. IRL. Do you know what I mean? I guess what do you mean by Cringy? I mean, like, is that baby shit? No.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I would say it's one of the most relatable topics. Yeah. But it's almost taboo, you know? Yeah. It's certainly, it's certainly perceived as juvenile. Yeah. And that's the thing. It's not like,
Starting point is 00:55:14 you grow up and stop poeing we're not all Kim Jong-i yeah and also you never grow up and stop finding it funny you know no that's the thing that's the thing it's like even like the most stoic like humorless
Starting point is 00:55:27 motherfucker out there they're gonna laugh if they hear that fucking fart if they hear a fart where there isn't meant to be one yeah yeah there's some good ones do we
Starting point is 00:55:44 do we already say the james cream pie thing no yeah you should probably mention that yeah in sainsbury's looking at all the cream pies um
Starting point is 00:55:55 and james was like hey jim there's some cream pies here for you and this just like dude this bystand a member of the public some middle age man just pushing his trolley around
Starting point is 00:56:08 yeah he he overhears us he like assassin's creed is stalking us through the store listening in and he hears James's little quip and my God does this guy love it yeah it was like he made himself a part of it
Starting point is 00:56:28 yeah not only did he kind of smirk and do a slight chuckle at James's cream pie joke bit of a nod right yeah he started nodding and then he like look me in the eye as if to say nice yeah
Starting point is 00:56:44 like you guys get it you guys should do some stand-up right now yeah so this is our announcement that we're going to start doing a little bit standy mm-hmm bit stand-y
Starting point is 00:56:58 yep that's what this has all been building to James on the stage what's up my motherfuckers whee cream pie am I right? Yeah. That's the thing
Starting point is 00:57:14 because like we shoot like our walks through Sainsbury's are like no other you know comedy
Starting point is 00:57:22 is a big supermarket for those who don't know yeah comedy is flowing like way way tears above
Starting point is 00:57:29 what we do here yeah like if you filming that to be honest no straight up like that's the truest content
Starting point is 00:57:36 but that's like there was even a run moment like there was just like deep rumbling that just appeared yeah yeah so then it was a
Starting point is 00:57:44 they're here yeah yeah um and but there's there's just like hilarious little bits coming out all the time but most of the time all you get is like like a
Starting point is 00:58:00 you know little glance like a glance yeah like the one that ended the the escapade where um we'll go around the corner right before we weren't around the corner you did a huge fart you just like walked off and this another another person um who clearly 100% would have
Starting point is 00:58:18 heard the far just like came around the corner you just walked up again some may perceive this as juvenile and not for antisocial to a certain extent what is it like is it like really bad to fart in a supermarket like so loud that it's like I think it's like it's taboo that was I want to say it was in the cleaning aisle as well to be fair yeah I think
Starting point is 00:58:47 well maybe even the toilet paper that adds to like the genius like I said no that's pretty funny if you're like sat in the toilet paper oh like just farting super lats
Starting point is 00:58:58 trying to choose which one yeah that's good that's good that's that's comedy that's like Little Britain to it you know what I'm saying like
Starting point is 00:59:09 true comedy Apex, like, the type of comedy we just don't get anymore with this sort of... The woke. Yeah, the woke media just won't allow it anymore. True British funny comedy. Yeah. It sucks that the wokeness destroyed farts yet again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Well, speaking on that, actually, Hindu frap says, considering how much people's view on edgy humour has changed, that being how some humour that was acceptable not too long ago is now seen as immoral Do you all think humour can go too far And if so, where would you draw the line at? This is obviously something
Starting point is 00:59:52 I've done about you I've thought about this a hell of a lot Growing up in that like wild west Like just totally out of control awful like early Xbox Live Just like visceral fucking
Starting point is 01:00:06 Malesstream of shit at the internet was like growing up on it like edgy humor was everything fucking everything and it has been interesting seeing like the kind of shift
Starting point is 01:00:22 and like people figuring out like what is okay and what's not okay to share and spread and what is acceptable or now to look back at as being a moral or whatever
Starting point is 01:00:35 but that's always That's always the problem though It's like where is that line Well the line is never known And the line Fifty years ago Was in a different place Like you can never know where the line is
Starting point is 01:00:50 But there's there's like stuff That I've said and done on JAR For the sake of humour That I would deem like Bad faith now Yeah or something you'd never do now Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:01:03 So it's I don't think it's about there being a line it's about your line Yeah You can only base Like this is something I feel like People don't consider
Starting point is 01:01:17 With this like topic Is that like You can go past somebody's line And It's not that it's on you It's like it's on both of you You know the person who's offended Needs to empathise
Starting point is 01:01:34 With the person who has offended them And vice versa The person who's offended them. And vice versa. The person who's, offended them needs to empathize with the person who's been offended there's no like the the line doesn't move in society if there's an immediate communication breakdown when nobody's yeah talking about the line it's especially weird like the older you get the more you're able to
Starting point is 01:01:59 observe and witness this phenomenon um because now just in our lifetimes there are myriad words which were so fucking prevalent growing up there now are just not okay to say or bring in to regular conversation like they once were and I just really there's like a moment in my head where I remember it being the like the start of that like internal journey I guess where you're like trying to think about and thinking about oh yeah the things I say and the words they say especially when they're like spread online there is sort of like a responsibility
Starting point is 01:02:41 well there's something complicated going on there that's hard to kind of decipher yeah especially when you're a fucking teenager or you're early 20 yeah yeah you're a fucking idiot um well i'd say like you're always going to be dumb in hindsight that's the hope anyway yeah i i would like to assume that's the case for everyone you go through life and you can learn from your mistakes, you learn from what you do wrong. But it's so easy to sort of get on the back foot, get defensive
Starting point is 01:03:17 and try and justify like what you did to so that you don't have to reflect and think what I did was wrong. Yeah, yeah. And I actually have to adjust my behaviour. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. Because at the end of the day that's all you can really do. yeah if you're moving forward it's like yeah
Starting point is 01:03:39 try and honestly and truthfully reflect like what you've been saying what you've been doing how you've been things you believed or thought and uh just be like honest and good faith yeah and listen to when people say things or uh because i was yeah i didn't actually say what what the like turning point for me was but it was someone like sent me an email
Starting point is 01:04:05 This is like so many years ago. I don't even, I can't even like think what the number is. But they were like, because like early I-H-E, I'd say like the R word and stuff like that. The R slur. A hugely prevalent word. Yeah. In that era.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah, yeah. But I got this email from someone who said, in this video whatever when you said that word like it really really kind of affected me in a negative way and then reading that I was like I mean yeah that's fair enough that's totally fair yeah and you know what if my conclusion was that if if you have to rely on that kind of thing to like try and be funny or entertaining whatever you want to be then maybe you're not actually like that yeah all that but the the thing is with that it what I was saying was like because this if because this person didn't come at you like screaming and shouting like yeah it was like a
Starting point is 01:05:21 thoughtful like yeah it gives you that opportunity to like really take it in whereas if if it's immediate like jump to 11 and you know you're you're almost forcing that person to get defensive and not have to reflect on what they've done. This is what I mean. It's like an open communication you have with this person that made you actually reflect and change
Starting point is 01:05:47 where your line is. Yeah, because there was even this post like a few months ago. It was on a jar of subreddit somewhere. It was like a screenshot from Twitter or something and it was like something I'd said or whatever or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I was like, wait, isn't that the guy who said the ah word and it's just like this is like crazy yeah yeah it's and that's why because then you can easily
Starting point is 01:06:16 get defensive and it's like that's not my identity that I did that you know yeah but yeah it's a hugely complex subject
Starting point is 01:06:28 and the thing with humor is that like comedy is that line it's it's like subversion of what you expect so edginess is like a shortcut to comedy you know because it's shock value
Starting point is 01:06:51 yes it's like whoa yeah nobody would actually say that yeah and then you laugh especially that era of like online kind of humor that was the punchline a lot of the time something edgy something crazy yeah yeah something you're not supposed to do or say and even in saying that like they're like comedies and all this stuff we grew up on it's like full of this it's like
Starting point is 01:07:17 kind of weird like going back to some of these older movies like some of these American comedies and it's just like oh it's like how flagrant some of the languages now this is a thing um like blackface in um so it was like a scandal you know Harry Enfield he was a like an old school comedian in oh yeah yeah yeah 70s 80s or whatever and one of his skits was he was wearing blackface and he has refused to apologize whereas Little Britain the two David Williams and um baked potato guy they apologized for using it okay I was talking to my dad about this, our dad.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And his point is that it was a different time. He shouldn't have to apologize. It wasn't deemed as wrong back then. Mm. And I totally disagree. I disagree with that too, but I was also like a bit confused by like, there's that always sunny episode with the Blackface, which was a commentary on that as a concept, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:08:32 Yeah. and that's been like taken away and hidden from a lot of like streaming services and really it's like yeah that I don't like but wait what what what don't you like the taking that episode away yeah yeah even though it's like it's like a smartly written like genuinely funny commentary on that as a concept yeah and that's where it gets really complex because it's like you're still doing it but you that you're doing it with the knowledge that it's bad And the reason it's funny is because the writers and the audience know it's bad, but the character doesn't, but you're still doing it. Yeah, that's often what satire is, though. It's doing the thing.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Yeah, yeah. But it's like super complex, and that's like adjusting the line. Mm-hmm. You know, and then it becomes blackface isn't inherently wrong if you're criticizing it. Yeah, well, it's even like, I saw. some people upset about there's an episode of Madman where it's featured heavily
Starting point is 01:09:40 but there's this kind of conflation between depicting something just depicting something isn't necessarily endorsing something I saw that as more of like a shocking scene in the sense of like just like how misogynistic and how fucked up that era was this thing
Starting point is 01:09:58 was considered normal in this time period too and that's what makes this like a statement yeah yeah yeah but then at the same time then you had all those like around this this same kind of discourse like don't know what it was like just a bunch of like American YouTubers like we're obsessed with doing blackface and skits all the time um and that's just fucking like just weird yeah that's really bizarre that's not like a thoughtful commentary or like an always sunny tier like no but that was the show kind of thing but also like ignorance it was yeah like but how far can you forgive ignorance
Starting point is 01:10:40 though you know yeah it's it it becomes impossible to talk about and it's like the people were stupid when it came to this topic back in like the 60s yeah it was like a total lack of understanding of how that made people feel it's like through through lack of knowledge they had lack of empathy which is just an ongoing issue now you know with like yeah like i was just telling you like i watched that matt walsh documentary about like the latest culture war shit which is like trans people um there's always like a new one so that's what's like interesting about that um being around from the beginning of that culture war like coming up into popularity and then because like when we were born like um a lot of gay rights
Starting point is 01:11:45 stuff was like way ahead it wasn't like um actually even in saying that i don't think gay marriage was legal till kind of the early 14 or something yeah i think you're right actually unless that was um but at least growing up in the u.k um i don't know there was there was like some kind of homophobia but it wasn't like as intense as it was in like the 80s or yeah especially like the 60s or whatever um but i guess that just depends on your upbringing and where you were brought up and yeah it totally depends on what sort of people you interact with as well your views on like trans gay race are all going to be different
Starting point is 01:12:31 if you socialize with an echo chamber of people that have like these views yeah compared to these views like yeah the older you get and the more you
Starting point is 01:12:45 experience you start to see these patterns where it's like yeah there's always some kind of culture war but it always just shifts something else you know yeah and the more you're exposed to people
Starting point is 01:13:00 that have wildly different views the less offence you take from people having those views everything is just perspective if you're someone that's only in this group
Starting point is 01:13:16 of people that have these views the only information you're getting is those views so people that aren't online to the extent that you might be aren't getting all the views. Yeah, well, because since I was 18, 19, I've been bombarded with thousands of people's opinions,
Starting point is 01:13:37 basically constantly. So it gives you a certain kind of outlook, I think. Yeah. But that's always been another, like, attitude where I find it much more interesting to listen to, especially when it comes to the, these kind of topics and conversations like people who are not
Starting point is 01:14:01 on my side of the aisle yeah I fight because I know like what I believe and what my side kind of believes but it's so easy to just like fall into that bubble and just circle jerk
Starting point is 01:14:15 you keep yourself much sharper if you like hear the other side out yeah and it it comes down to empathy oh yeah it's like not just getting really angry and flipping out of the person who has this view that totally like clashes with yours it's like why do they think that i'm i'm actually going to like think about the things these people are thinking about and take in their perspective to inform
Starting point is 01:14:49 my own so i can either reinforce or adjust what i believe and especially like a big thing for me a big like realization because you're so like young and impressionable um well I mean like we were when we started like using the internet and stuff for just teenagers or younger when it started popping up so
Starting point is 01:15:09 they're like you just have no idea really like what you're doing you've got no critical thinking yeah um but like learning about the way these social media's are designed these algorithms like
Starting point is 01:15:24 they're all built around conflict because it maximizes engagement which maximizes ad revenue so with that in mind it's easy to see everything through this like bullshit like cultural lens or or just everything's like inflammatory
Starting point is 01:15:44 yeah and um this is why we've mentioned before like chatting with our grandma yeah it's why it's so interesting because she disagrees with us on everything basically pretty much everything but the fact that it's actually human being face to face disagreeing but empathizing it's like i see why you have this perspective and i don't hate you for it and we're not going to
Starting point is 01:16:15 shout and scream and get silly and use horrible words and let it all escalate because there's there's no like third party making all the mullah from the ads or whatever that's being pasted all around yeah social media bad social media anti-social media yeah yeah anti-social that's good did you did you come up with that i just came up with that on the spot i'm gonna be honest i just like i don't know it just came to me that's smart is. Maybe we should name the episode
Starting point is 01:16:55 anti-social media? Question mark. In brackets, um, warning. What the fuck? That's what we've lost, though,
Starting point is 01:17:09 from the past. Was it just YouTube names you could have whatever the fuck you wanted. That is, yeah. It could literally be anything. That is unfortunate. They were good.
Starting point is 01:17:19 That's the golden, the golden YouTube title era yeah where you could have like shit in the title piss piss prick cunt could you probably couldn't have cunt could you start out the you
Starting point is 01:17:36 you could have like yeah you probably could actually yeah um or like actually this this one wasn't too good because it like just overtly sexual content like everywhere yeah that wasn't too good Yeah, but I mean, that's what TikTok's for, so...
Starting point is 01:17:53 True, true. That's just filled the void. I've still never downloaded TikTok. Seriously? Never. But I bet you've seen fucking thousands of them. Yeah. Yeah, and I probably still do.
Starting point is 01:18:07 That was... It was my old man moment. What, TikTok? Yeah. I'm like, I just... Like, I don't find this cool anymore. Well, to me, it was like... It's getting too obvious.
Starting point is 01:18:19 like it's it's it's just becoming black mirror yeah it's like at least at least let me pretend like I'm like a human
Starting point is 01:18:34 yeah you know I'm in control yeah you know like when I'm watching Eldon Ring videos on YouTube it's because I want to watch Eldon Ring videos it's not because I'm being
Starting point is 01:18:46 algorithms feeding you but it is because yeah exactly no it's not there but it didn't used to be that way you used to be awesome you used to watch like
Starting point is 01:18:57 what was in your subscription yeah I used to find a channel and be like oh shit this is fun I'm gonna subscribe and then they upload a video and it's like the first thing
Starting point is 01:19:07 there and I'm like oh cool this thing I subscribed to like two days ago uploaded a thing Jack Sepsichai's new video fucking lit
Starting point is 01:19:14 yeah watch his skate three video have a lovely time now I know never see jackseptico content what happened the algorithm the algorithm has killed jackseptico it prioritized
Starting point is 01:19:29 Matt Walsh and Joe Rogan clips yeah no because I'm I don't have any social media other than YouTube which I guess is technically a social media and god damn it's starting to really want to turn me into like an old writer
Starting point is 01:19:45 I'm getting all of them yeah and I can't avoid it I'm just going right past them the second they come up and it's like, no, you're watching these. Well, it's because they have like 10 million views and shit. Yeah. It's something about the shorts thing when you and shit. I don't know what it is about that. And it'll be a clip
Starting point is 01:20:01 of like Jordan Peterson being like, Lobsters fucking hate people. And it's like, how what does this even mean out of context? So much of it is just like a clip from a three hour conversation. Just taken out. And like the point of
Starting point is 01:20:19 Juicy little soundboats. Yeah, the whole, but the point of what they're saying isn't even in the clip. So it's just like an anecdote that means nothing with some like bassy techno music
Starting point is 01:20:31 over the top to be like, listen to our true ears. Yeah. There's nothing actually here. Yeah, it's crazy because the short, the short, like, format thing works well for comedy
Starting point is 01:20:42 and like little gaming fact about Red Dead Redemption that you didn't know. Yeah, yeah. A weird thing with YouTube shorts is that loads of content creators design it so that it's a circle
Starting point is 01:20:57 The thumbnail? No, like the video Because it's like 10 seconds It will start with like This is why X character is the best in Apex And then they'll talk for a bit Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
Starting point is 01:21:11 Blah and then it leads back into And this is why blah blah blah Is the best character in Apex and it circles around again. So it becomes this like loop thing and it's like, why would I watch it on repeat? Yeah. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah, it's like a totally different style of content. And some people are really invigorated by it, but personally, I'm really, really, really, really I'm not... No. No. Time move too quick. Yeah, time move too quick. what's the next one gonna be
Starting point is 01:21:48 Reson E4-7 there was something I saw the other day that was just like really it really showed to me like how ingrained TikTok it like just how like prolific it is at this point I'm trying to remember what the fuck it was
Starting point is 01:22:07 it was just something to do with advertising something to do with like wow like this really is here to stay huh especially the marketing angle it's so big on TikTok the potential for and shorts are being monetized soon on YouTube too that's going to change things I don't think I don't think you can currently but they're introducing an ad share revenue thing in the upcoming months I believe so you might see a shift in what the algorithm and take desires
Starting point is 01:22:46 For short uploads or whatever. Let's just a couple more here as we wrap this up. Punished Pizza says a friend of mine owes me a free tattoo. And question everything, learn nothing would be a great one. I'm actually considering it after that guy asked Alex to draw a turtle for his. but I also like the live like a dog there any other quotes I should consider Question everything
Starting point is 01:23:21 Learn Nothing is the one That's like the Yeah The should I get that What font? Papyrus Um No in like Chinese
Starting point is 01:23:33 In me Yeah Like down my spine Um That's the one What about like a like on your whole arm right on your like a half sleeve from the elbow up to the shoulder like a whole arbiter and it just says wear it so easy yes that's what I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:24:02 then on the other arm have just Keith David's face yeah I'd like that yeah where it's so easy how it How do you get a fucking voice like that? Yeah, it's not fair. It's really not fair. How can you be born with a voice like that? But like it, when you have a voice like that and you voice act, a character, it like, elevates it beyond. What, especially, because they didn't just, like, they already had the Master Chief thing.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Mm-hmm. And then they get the arbiterate. Just get the other best guy. Yeah. They just do you. And he's just, the, the thing is, though, with him is that he's such a good, actor as well yeah i was a because he's he's he's in nope and i was like man yeah i wish he was in that movie more yeah i wish he was in more movies hmm yeah he does a lot of voice work um and he's
Starting point is 01:25:01 in that uh he's in that john carpenter movie with the glasses have you seen yeah no i want to see it i think he's in it yeah yeah like who dislikes key David you know literally no one that would be that would be one of those brutal ones you know if it was like a if you met him and he was a guy yeah if he was like an asshole or something that would be he is in Rick and Morty's so yeah who isn't though at this point true um well yeah let's do this one then let's end on this one from uh j h hey jar boys is me the teacher Alex Alex really should have reverse search those pictures of some guy with Ryan Reynolds because I
Starting point is 01:25:49 certainly didn't send them to him he is not addressing the college until December so I haven't seen him yet and I don't have Twitter or be real I don't know who this imposter is but Alex got epically pranked by some rando cheers mingers I love you so it was the teacher who said he's meeting Ryan Reynolds this is the thing I feel it the it's got minus two but downboats Is this a whole different guy? I think it is because the first reply was just
Starting point is 01:26:18 Duke Walker saying Not everything is about you. Ooh. But then the other reply From Fnug's dad. I sent them after he asked for proof for them. Unfortunately, the story was about me.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Not you. The teacher's just been proven to be not a real teacher. How many jobs? of like have or are going to interact with Ryan Reynolds well yeah well that's another what's the deal like but also the teacher never said anything about meeting Ryan Reynolds yeah this is a different guy so the teacher is saying like how will we know that the teacher was going to meet Ryan Reynolds unless he unless he said so yeah we like
Starting point is 01:27:04 forgetting something like I'm so apparently like we don't remember anything with much detail so I'm just like what did that I thought the teachers thing was about like he's a fake minions in school or something i knew it i called him out from day one he's a goddamn fake i showed you that dm and it was like a person like hanging out of ryan reynolds and yeah yeah yeah but the the story was never from the guy the teacher guy he never said he was going to meet ryan reynolds so why is he leaving this comment saying that i don't know because he's a narcissist that thinks everything is
Starting point is 01:27:41 about him Not every Ryan Reynolds story is about you, my friend. Yeah, um, you're not even a real teacher, brev. Probably not. What do you think, what do you think they actually do? Nothing. Ooh. I think they mine Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Oh, Ethereum miner. Yeah, Ethereum miner. Using, um, using Black Ops 2 servers. They've got like 1,000 PS3s. Like, you know. Yeah, mining Bitcoin and Ethereum. from the Everglade What the fuck is the Everglade
Starting point is 01:28:16 Bitcoin in the Everglade Don't me to like get the definition I've stored thousands of Bitcoin In the Everglade I'll never tell you where the Everglade is Oh do your best Duke Newcomb impression Everglade Everglade
Starting point is 01:28:30 What's like something he says I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum But that's not even That is from that movie With Keith David Yeah but he just stole it they live I think it's good that's right um so I searched Everglade and uh nothing came up it doesn't it's not real what it sounds like something from Final Fantasy
Starting point is 01:28:57 no it is real the Everglades is a natural region of tropical wetlands in the southern portion of the US state of Florida an extra large gaiter in the Everglade. We need to get out of here. He got lost in the Everglade. Not the Everglade. Get the hover machine. We're going.
Starting point is 01:29:22 We got to get him. What are they called? What are they called? Those things Kanye drives around. The hovercraft. Oh, hovercraft, yeah. We've been on a hovercraft. Are they getting the hovercraft?
Starting point is 01:29:35 We're going. Look at Timmy, baby. Getting the hovercraft, everybody. Shaw Looking for Timmy in the Everglade Yeah Looking for your mom in the Everglade My mom ain't even in the Everglade
Starting point is 01:29:53 My mom went into the Everglade and never came back My daddy ain't seen them since we went to the Everglade My granddaddy's My mom is mom Mama's granddaddy's mama? I heard there's gold in the Everglade. Well, let's go. Oh, man, I feel like the, it's just like 50 different accents.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Just like, yeah. What does a Floridian sound like? Shaw, dude. I'm in the Everglade, dude. Yo, we're in the Everglade, bro. Come check it out. Where are you at in the Everglade, bro? Send me your coordinates.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Some of your cords. Well, I'm sure at least one of you is in a Floridian Everglades. Yeah, let us know what it's like. Yeah. Probably listening while hovercrafting around. Yeah, with your old speckled hand. Shaw, I've got my old speckled hand. Well, another bird light.
Starting point is 01:31:09 No, I'm on the cores I want any more crystal Yeah, man Yeah, that's it man Yeah, if you want to follow us On any other social medias Don't because that shit rots who rain Unless you want to
Starting point is 01:31:34 At Everglade Yeah Maybe that's the act we should have gone with Oh, should we change it? Or there's also at your mom. At your dad. No, at James' dad. That would have been funny.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Yeah, any final words? Just trust in the natural continuation of all that is true. And remember, you aren't. your mind and neither are you your body you are nothing to me anyway, fuck off

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