JAR Media Posdact - the warning WAS the threat

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Find us on Spotify and iTunes under: "Jar Media Posdact" Find the original episodes under: "The JARChive" Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter...: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 08:26 Alien vs ME Cosmic Horror Lore 16:13 Housekeeping 25:32 Forwards Festival 28:41 Weird X hate thread on Alex 1:09:11 Mid Break 1:12:59 Worst JAR Moments 1:15:51 Are Cigars as Good as They Say? 1:20:30 Sherlock/House 1:24:08 An Unhinged Sequel 1:26:49 Panic at the Disco x Radiohead 1:31:47 Matt Walsh New Doc #Brocast25

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Of sorts. Are you up to date on the Hawke Tour podcast, Talk to it? No, what's new? Um, not sure. Have you been listening? Yeah. But you're not sure what's new? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:00:23 You'd get it if you'd listen to it. Oh, okay. Um, I won't. I think you should I wish I had the ability to like turn into a demon just so in that moment I could do that what do you like become an actual demon yeah like a monster what for like a moment and just go back
Starting point is 00:00:49 just like a moment like a punchline yeah and then just instantly morph back and just change the topic how long do you think it would take something like that to be tiring you know ten episodes you could get out of that. 10. Then it'll be boring. Because all the clips would be from the first 10.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Like, wow, this is crazy. You just leave it in here and then it'll be back in it again in the algorithm. Yeah. Like, get a bunch of new people. Yeah. Do you just push it too far? Hmm. Oh, it's that guy you can turn into a demon,
Starting point is 00:01:22 turning into a demon again. Yeah. When's he going to try something else? So, I've got a new one. one of those types of guys. Oh yeah. And like, I don't have a problem with the...
Starting point is 00:01:35 Like, I showed you the video. It's really funny. It's this guy who's like... The eye bulge? No, he rocked. His one thing works. It always works. That's one guy who's got his one thing and he can have that one thing.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Okay. The... If you know, you know. Um, no, I'm talking about the guy who's like... 30 baby... Bell's 10,000 grams of protein When he eats them This is, yeah, I showed you the one where he eats
Starting point is 00:02:07 I think it was eggs He cooks like 20 eggs And then just sits and eats them And his like parents are there and they're like What the fuck are you doing? But he does it, he just does That is his content Like the next one will be eating
Starting point is 00:02:24 An entire chicken But not like a petty It's kind of like a more chilled out LAB beast sort of thing yeah but I mean he legit did the baby bell thing and then it just like speeds through him eating and it's like when I see one it's like this shit fucking fire you like it yeah I love it and then I scroll a couple more times see some v sauce see some bullshit and then he's back eating like snails or something this time I mean it wouldn't be snails I haven't tried snails yet something
Starting point is 00:03:02 normal something normal something not French yeah ideally yeah yeah did you know um France created nationalism really how's that measured what do you mean what are you talking they invented it did they yeah it didn't exist before them nationalism is in loving one's own country yeah or even identifying with it really yeah I don't know much about French history if I'm being honest fuck them you gonna kill them some good answer no I felt like such a fucking dick so I went to France um last summer no this summer
Starting point is 00:03:57 And everyone I interacted with, bar maybe like two, which was a minority when I was there. Two, okay. Yeah, this was south of France, like kind of out, like, not really a touristy place. Yeah. We, I mean, I don't speak French. And they were really nice. So you had to take some of your prejudice back. And I was like, maybe I'm the first.
Starting point is 00:04:27 fucking shit. France or England. France or England has to be the bad one. It's one of the two. On the world stage, it's France is the shittest or England is the shittest. And from my experience in the south of France, I think this is tough.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah, because I feel like... If I went to the north of England, I'd be like, oh, this is five. Mm-hmm. You know, but... Yeah. there's strong arguments on both sides I can see for which is worse
Starting point is 00:05:02 yeah I mean maybe people should start having rap battles in the comments yeah did they ever do that one England versus France rap battle epic rack battle epic an epic re-wrapped battle
Starting point is 00:05:20 an epic rassbackle battle Fuck you back in my day they did normal epic rap battles of history Yeah like Darth Vader versus Heisenberg Before things went woke
Starting point is 00:05:37 Back when Now it's like a lot JFK was allowed to debate JFK Yeah Was allowed to debate You know Was allowed to debate
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah Like debate the guy from Prometheus or whatever What the fuck are you talking about? JFK, the president who got killed. Yeah. Isn't that what they do on that channel? Like JFK, rap battles, the Prometheus guy.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Right, yeah. JFK versus space jockey rap battle epically. Does that make sense now? Reel it back there. What were you saying about that? Back when that could happen. Well, okay, let's go way back to basics. Did that happen?
Starting point is 00:06:24 Maybe. Is that a video that exists? Probably. Good. Good. You want more of that? Yes. Go back to when things weren't so, you know. When you couldn't say anything, when you couldn't have the Prometheus guy debating JFK or whatever. Who would make a better Joe Rogan guess, JFK or the Prometheus Space Jockey? Why are you calling him a space jockey? That's what he is, right?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Does he like ride a horse? Oh, do you not know this? Because I'm, I guess I'm old enough to be an alien fan pre-Promatius, where that thing that's in the original alien was just known as the space jockey. That's what it was called. You know, that weird thing that they just walk by and are like, what? The spaceship? When they go into the spaceship and there's that thing that looks like,
Starting point is 00:07:23 that looks like a huge set in that huge room. It was known as the space jockey. Jesus. Yeah, yeah. Oh God. Jesus died. Yeah, but we didn't know that it was just a giant dude. Yeah, just God.
Starting point is 00:07:39 God. It was a guy wearing a helmet. We didn't know that the Prometheus, the space jockeys were just giant dudes. Right. Then. So now they're the engineers, a la space jockeys. Allah God. Allah Jesus
Starting point is 00:07:54 Ervo Hence, I keep seeing those in my algorithm like one hour alien law explained Kill me I'd rather be killed than watch that video I'm serious I feel like you don't need an hour For alien law Yeah God turns out to be an alien
Starting point is 00:08:18 And makes people people. Do you agree with me on this? I don't know how we've gone to Alien at the start of this, but whatever, let's roll with it. Okay. Do you agree with me that
Starting point is 00:08:33 with Alien as a property, delving into that whole universe and explaining where all of it comes from and how it works ruins the original point of it in the same way that like... You don't know what his point was. In the same way that Mass Effect 3 did with the Reapers. over explaining it
Starting point is 00:08:52 and it's like oh this cosmic horror it's not scary anymore this might be a hot talk what don't give me that look uh the alien law for where the aliens
Starting point is 00:09:06 came from yeah better than the Reaper law oh we're getting in the weeds um yeah but both suck
Starting point is 00:09:16 yeah but the alien law only sucks the the reaper law fucking eats chungas bro you forget how bad like the in covenant when they explain yeah covenant fucking sucks and shit or whatever
Starting point is 00:09:35 but they explain that it was david the robot who made the first alien he made it so it's not like a question mark anymore it was david the robot who made the alien from alien that is worse Does that happen? Yes Do you not remember that And then it just turns into alien
Starting point is 00:09:52 For the last like 20 minutes Where the new Ripley is chased by an alien from alien That doesn't happen Bro, that happens I thought he just spread them You remember he tricks that guy Who's the blue man from watchman Who's like religious
Starting point is 00:10:08 He tricks him into a room and he's like Look here's the first alien egg That I made I'm a robot Yeah yeah So it's like a robot making the alien and it's like closing this loop that's but why is there an alien at the end of Prometheus then
Starting point is 00:10:22 there isn't that's like a proto thing yeah but like it was coming it was coming out of an engineer so I assume that's why it looked different yeah but it also wasn't a face hugger that we know it was one of the worms or something that had been mutated by the goo
Starting point is 00:10:41 it didn't hatch out of an egg there weren't eggs were there no just goo just goo just goo but that seems like a D evolution because like the the worms
Starting point is 00:10:59 or do you remember they breathe in like spores in Covenant yeah it's like what so it's just like a a microbe virus that can yeah that's way more advanced isn't it than an egg like as far as like trans- then has to jump on your face
Starting point is 00:11:14 to then nut in your stomach to make an alien grow and then burst out why not just have the thing that like you breathe in kills you and then kills you bunch of other guys yeah just another reason why don't suck yeah logically so do you take it back then no no maspect three because no i think that's worse the mass fit three at least i just i disagree i disagree because mass fact three what there is because at least it's like there's some with the squids the mind control squids at least that's a question mark more no like you meet them and it's like by the way it was us we've just been we've been here this whole time just doing nothing hiding right there's some reason for for forever yeah for like such a ridiculous amount of time and then they just like chat and you can convince them to come and help it's like yeah it's too late to introduce something like that it's really fucking dumb no never introduce something like that it doesn't work it's like embarrassingly shit um both are those my point no but the thing is with alien is that like the law isn't like I don't need the
Starting point is 00:12:30 law to to give a shit my all mass effect is is law like it's all like the whole thing is like you go and ask an alien how they're reproductive organs work tell me about your reproductive system. So there was also part of it early on was like the cosmic horror side of it. When that thing, when a reaper speaks to you, there's something imposing about it because of like, oh, we can't even comprehend the threat that you are. And once you can comprehend the incomprehensible threat, then it's not scary anymore on like a cosmic level.
Starting point is 00:13:05 It's more like, oh, you're tangible now. Like, you're not, you know, hear what I'm saying? Hmm. and the same applies to the alien which like there's one line in the original alien where in home says um just something like it's it's the perfect life form yeah that's all you need you could argue aliens kind of fucks with that because these'd be popping them like crazy um i just don't think it's as important like in in alien but my point is the mystery on its own like it the alien is scary on its own like it the alien is scary
Starting point is 00:13:43 but I think it takes some of the scariness away it does but there's more to it than just that yeah you know whereas the whole plot of the mass effect trilogy turning out to be shit but you could say that about the alien there couldn't you the whole the whole time the alien was actually an because alien ends movie tick done I can watch that and be like this is the only part of like the law right like i can watch that and experience a full story i don't need anything else i play mass effect one the whole game is like i'm just the first guy and like there's loads more coming there's like stuff
Starting point is 00:14:31 happening in the future mass effect two well shit's about to get crazy man it's like they're not complete stories and then when it is completed it's fucking dick that's why i hate mass fake three so much. Yeah. I'm with you, brother, and there's a full video on the channel if you want to... Yeah. Really long message. Obviously, it wasn't long enough.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Well, good afternoon, morning, evening or night. Ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to broadcast. Number 25. I'm the host Alex, joined by Jim, and I guess Billy for this moment. Burping, fishy, beanie Billy. A cat that eats beans, everybody. A cat that eats beans, everybody. Before we get too deep into the show,
Starting point is 00:15:15 let me shout out of the Jiam Media patrons over at the Patreon. What should I say, Patrions? Or whatever. You know what I'm saying? They make the audio version of the show possible. They get those geek cake. Geek Cave sponsorships and features and mentions. And of course, Jaffa Hours is on there.
Starting point is 00:15:35 The little warming segments we record right before we do these main shows. You can catch over on the Patreon. exclusively. It's also the jail media group chat. It's another Patreon little perk there which I pluck subjects and you know items of conversation from when necessary. Hello Billy. Bean Lee. Don't like that Beanley. Beanley says hello friend. Um right before we just get properly into this Go to topics that I've brought things I want to talk about. We've got to do housekeeping.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Clean up those conversations from the previous week. Which there are a few to get to, like this one. From Leroy and Stitch. I guess we were, oh, Billy, talking about Transformers for some reason, briefly in the last episode. The Skibbitty toilet. Oh, yeah, because of Michael Bow's Skibbitty movie or whatever. No, our hopes and thoughts and dreams for that.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And we asked for some input from a Transformer Jarling because then we just figured there must be at least one. We've wound up with two, at least, that I've screenshot here, writing in. Transformers Jarling, two here. Answering how a Cybertronian is born is not a simple question. Further complicated because it's different depending on what series or continuity. So I guess we're talking about how Transformers born, how they gave birth or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:08 In the Michael Bay films, they can be hatched from eggs. In the early media, they're usually just built like a regular robot, which means in theory you could build your own transformer. The majority of them were created in factories by a mysterious, four-faced ancient alien called quintessons. In some media, the original transformers were created by the god Primus, who after making them, sacrificed his body to become the planet Cybertron. And then these transformers built more, which were brought to life by the ancient supercomputer, vector sigma.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Or an artifact called the Leadership Matrix. But I leave the generally accepted modern interpretation of how transformers reproduce. Is that they come from something called a protoform, which is basically a liquid metal automaton that emerges from inside of the planet Cybertron. The planet itself gives the protoforms a spark, which is like their soul or life essence. Then they quickly form into a fully grown intelligent transformer that can transform and speak fluently. Why did they say modern interpretations is this? Because it's been around forever, bro. As if it's like a religion.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It sounds like it. This is really reminding me of like bionical people. It's similar. It's similarly as deep. No, that makes sense. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? There's definitely crossover there.
Starting point is 00:18:33 There is. Yeah. Um, a huge one. And Abe, the musician. said, Transformer Jarling here. I guess I read Transformer 2, Jarling first. But they have more upvotes than this one, so what I'm. Transformers don't actually mate, but how they reproduce depends on the continuity.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Okay, we're getting... Another source confirming this, then. The most commonly seen method is that they start as empty bodies called protoforms, which are then infused with a spark, essentially their heart and soul. The all spark. The spark comes from the planet itself, with the protoforms either being constructed by... Other transformers or can be naturally occurring. Other continuities showing them,
Starting point is 00:19:11 originally being built by an alien race as workers and war machines reproducing asexually by budding. And being made from a magic space cube called the AllSpark. To finish off my question is, if you were a transformer, what would you turn into? Whether it be a vehicle, animal or something else entirely, bear bear and rock on. Wow. Mountain.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Budding. That'd be cool, yeah. Just turn into like a little rock. Yeah That'd be pretty bad, badass I'd be a big mountain What would be like a cool thing to transform a like a machine
Starting point is 00:19:51 Something with wheels A sewing machine With wheels Sort of like an Xbox A conveyor belt I transform into a PSP PSVita Even rarer
Starting point is 00:20:13 Hmm I transform into a 4090 RGX And then I'll sell myself on eBay And then run back and sell myself again Oh shit, that's a good idea A little scam bot
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah Yeah Yeah Those movies Scambot I love Transformers They're so bloody Well enough Transformers
Starting point is 00:20:43 Because we've got to address the Elephant in the room The Uh-oh The elephant The clickbaiting Um Accusations
Starting point is 00:20:54 I guess Billy Puntan 8867 says You put house in the title And didn't expect us to see The Great James House Sitting back beside you in all his glory Oh shit. He's the only house that matters,
Starting point is 00:21:06 James Home. And Morgan Freeman 2102 said, you knew exactly what you were doing with that title. I didn't even... I thought it was actually quite organic how that title came about. Yeah. I mean, I have genuinely been watching House. And me, desperate, housewives.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Both just happen to have house in the title. Yeah. But... There's always a chance that we're lying. I didn't realize that many people knew James's last name. Yeah. It's creeping. James Home.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Mick Saladin said a lust for numbered titles is very bourgeoisie. Oh, wait. Huh? A lust. A lust for... For numbered titles. Like we did way back when on this show, when it had numbers. So people who want the numbered titles are the bourgeoisie.
Starting point is 00:22:10 That's what Mick was saying. Okay. All right. Um, Grammy James says, me and Alex are on a Grammy name basis. Yeah, y'all know why? Grimmie is a new one. Someone I haven't seen before. Gremie.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Gremie. Okay. Gremie Jame. There's like a... Gremie Jame? Yeah. This is a jarling that kind of cropped up a few months ago. And it's been one of the most intense jailings yet.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Okay. He's got ideas. countless ideas he's like writing episodes for us he's making thumbnails for us he wants he wants us to do the hawk tours
Starting point is 00:23:14 did you remember this he wanted to make like a sequel to hot girl booty spider man something like a hop tour bullshit he's got it all modelled out so that's why Grammy's on a first name basis rock on
Starting point is 00:23:31 um this one uh comes from the group chat over on patreon streets made me despicable but my money still grew says do you foresee a world beyond the streaming wars is one going to ever win and just own every movie and TV show I guess I never thought about an end game are they thinking about that we this ends when we have it all I think Disney was thinking that and then they they released endgame and they were like oh shit
Starting point is 00:24:06 we've got nothing now but surely that would inspire them to just buy more things because then it's like then we can have something they get they just like shit all over yeah but if you own everything and then there's no
Starting point is 00:24:23 nothing else there'll be a new thing then they'll get bought up it's like a it's like a black hole really far away Disney yeah
Starting point is 00:24:36 I can have shit here but it's being sucked you know it's being sucked and then a hundred years and then the suck lets up just a little bit and then you can get your
Starting point is 00:24:48 Winnie the Pooh radiation and you can get your Winnie the Pooh horror movies and stuff like that that's really awesome really badass sort of thing
Starting point is 00:24:57 and speaking of bad ass Jan van Dorsed, 808 says Your reference to pow-pau by LCD sound system Did not go unnoticed Alex You didn't do that No, I didn't I agree with you They are lying
Starting point is 00:25:15 So I bring it up To say Liar You're lying and you need to Probably get your head check Because that didn't happen Yeah I'll say
Starting point is 00:25:30 What a liar But what wasn't a lie was We went to Fawords Festival We did It was a few weeks ago now Something Something happened And I just got distracted, okay
Starting point is 00:25:46 And I forgot to mention it You got lightning struck Um Yeah there were a few things I didn't do That I normally do Um Like I think there were three
Starting point is 00:25:56 JAR people that bumped into us there but I didn't write any of their names down. One, I think I wrote down. Indigo. Does that bring a bell? Indigo. Indigo.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I think that was the one who was like, oh, my brother listens a lot. I'm going to get a picture with you guys for my brother. And then there was these two dudes as well. Yeah. Whose names I did ask. Yeah. because they recognize you and we're like talking to you and I came out from the toilet
Starting point is 00:26:33 yeah well I just come out from the toilet and I had the like slimy sticky festival fingers yeah slimy sticky alcohol gel yeah yeah that if you're smart you gel that stuff like wash your hands but make sure you keep plenty on your hands then you've got little alcohol little licky I wonder where you're going with that shit
Starting point is 00:26:56 To you drinks. But yeah. Yeah. No, really pleasant experiences. And then obviously the crazy moment when LCD were like, John Media's here,
Starting point is 00:27:09 everybody. Get up on stage here. And then we fucking rocked out. Pow. Pow, pow, pow. Oh, why you want? Yeah. It was a good festival, though, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It was a really good festival. So Underworld again. I wasn't really panicking I've never seen a band twice in one year I don't think so that was cool kind of a different vibe
Starting point is 00:27:37 different set though different crowd yeah but they got the crowd turned they did get the crowd I don't know if people say that anymore yeah I don't know what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:27:49 what does that mean no I'm joking I'm just I'm just acting like I don't know what you're talking about what's turned then Alex tell me what turn Um Yeah, people were hyped People like they got the crowd bus in
Starting point is 00:28:02 Uh huh Because before that was a bit scary Because it was like raining Yeah and lightninging And lightninging and this woman was like I'm so sorry I've got to come off stage now Because it's dangerous I don't want to die
Starting point is 00:28:14 She was being forced off stage by I got a cool picture of it Yeah Sorry Zeus is interrupting for a moment And yeah So that was fire I wanted to shout out that event yeah
Starting point is 00:28:28 it would have become fire if someone had an umbrella tall enough or something or something or something so Ray I got something
Starting point is 00:28:42 fucked to share with you bullshit um there was is it is it is it Deadpool and Wolverine now on streaming services
Starting point is 00:28:53 no okay there's a hate thread about me I found on Twitter well I didn't find someone from Jha sent me it really and it's interesting because of course it's on X right what is being spoken about is like whatever it's the most obvious joke I remember seeing jokes like this in like 2016 on 4chan like I'll show you the original one for example for example yeah so your face there for those listening was a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:29:32 huh um wait what is it wait is this it genuine this is real it's no i mean like is the person like doing a joke it's like i guess best case is like an edgy joke right i mean i i don't know how to read it well just put a pin in that then and look at the the biggest the biggest reply right now I don't know there's some of this stuff I'm just not going to be able to show because of the material that it is joking but I suppose we can kind of loosely describe the the biggest reply
Starting point is 00:30:11 think about this um this being the IHE face with a star of David kind of placed over it um Bro. Oh my god. Why is um Twitter 4chan now? This is 4chan. Like this is 4chan. Like this is 4chan.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Like it's the richest man in the world owns the platform that hosts this shit. But there's more though. As far as like crazy replies. Um Facial structure. What? Wait, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Which, like, do they mean the, the cartoon? Or do they mean, actually, like, do they think you look like that? Like, I don't even, like, know what to say. What? Why is the... I mean, what, what are they, am i i just like unaware that is that kind of stuff like normal on instagram on facebook like places i don't go and like that's why it's surprising me um what platform is that those spaces are more like like a
Starting point is 00:31:39 rat on a train um track just getting obliterated you know uh-huh twitter's a bit more it's just like when the punchline is always anti-semitism but what but what are they saying is it a joke I don't understand the joke if it's a joke which part
Starting point is 00:32:04 both both jokes I mean like I hate everything except like like when have you ever Gone anywhere near any of those topics?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Never. I guess that's the joke. It's like The con like if you take the concept to its logical extreme, you can make a joke about that sort of thing, I guess Yeah, but that that would be a joke to me Them saying except kind of implies That this I should be making those videos Well, it more implies to me that you That this is you. This is they're putting this right to you
Starting point is 00:32:54 saying you have made these statements by not explicitly saying that you do hate them which then like this is what I mean what the fuck are they saying like what is the joke if it's a joke
Starting point is 00:33:14 are they beefing with you because wow he can hate he can hate everything even white people but any of them, like, huh? Yeah. Yeah, if that's the thing you get me on, I guess.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah. It's fair? Yeah. It's just like, uh. I mean, like, and then the second one, uh, the star of David.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Mm-hmm. Do you think people that make those kind of jokes can do that with anything yes they can like draw it on to anything and that's the thing because they're all they see I'm sure like a lot of them are just irony like 15 year old teenagers that
Starting point is 00:34:08 don't understand like what they're doing but there will be people in there in those numbers that like genuinely believe this stuff and like actually are conspiracy theorists and spread it some of the stuff on Twitter now is like genuinely unhinged
Starting point is 00:34:27 the dog whistling the crazy anti-semitism is hardcore on there Elon Musk has like ironically given a good reason why people shouldn't have free speech his platform is the best example of why free speech might not be the best way of managing When it comes to a platform like Twitter, it doesn't seem to work. Does it? Well, it's just inconsistent, too, like how it's actually applied. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I really don't know how you pass that one, because their argument is that it used to be the inverse, like, three, four years ago. and now we're basically in the complete inverse of that it's just the extreme on the opposite side except there's a lot more anti-semitism and like hateful bigoted shit but that sort of shit is a it's oppressing and limiting the speech of
Starting point is 00:35:41 people who the people being discriminated against because what like why why would you choose to as someone who's going to receive a bunch of like racist or like insensitive shit about your culture or race go into a space where that's expected yeah so that's like the inverse of free speech is those people not being yeah because that's that's That's where my mind was like, should I, like, quote tweet this and try and highlight this in some way? But then I almost feel like the Twitter as a battleground or as a place for sharing or talking about ideas is just it's not going to happen. No, to me it's a lose-lose.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah, there was a time. but to me that was when it was more like you were more communicating with your audience as opposed to everyone every one trying to get people who are specifically outside of your audience to get pissed at you and quote to at you and promote engagement and replying to each other angrily
Starting point is 00:37:02 are you seen as a left wing well this is what's funny because I've I've been all of it over the 10 years I've been an SJW, I've been alt-right, and I guess now I'm SJW again. Because you don't hate minorities. That's the line now. Either, like, there's no spectrum. It's either alt-right, like, genuine fascist or SJW communist.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You are one or the other. And if you don't say that you have... hate at least one minority you are immediately thrown into SJW communist yeah isn't that wild though that it's like innocent drawing that I drew when I was like 19 years old yeah I've even been 18 when I do that yeah you didn't even know what a Jew was but they would turn that into an argument for it that's the conspiracy mind you can like spin it into anything any narrative you start with the belief and just feed everything into it
Starting point is 00:38:24 oh yeah yeah it's a paranoid mindset you know if everyone's out to get me and then you start like behave in that way and then people are kind of about to get you start acting like start seeing patterns and everything yeah yeah you make your own reality is what I say mm-hmm but like I bring it up as an example because it's not like obviously involves me directly it's my thing I guess but it's not like a it's
Starting point is 00:39:01 not a unusual thing to see on Twitter now which is weird to me and I don't know why it doesn't make more people uncomfortable considering who owns it it's not like a fringe 4chan thing it's not like yeah it feels different like you'd expect to see something like that on 4chan it's like that's kind of where it belongs you know so seeing it on X the one that is owned by the the richest man in the world that is the platform for free speech and stuff and it's like this this platform is awful It's like A lose for everybody involved in it
Starting point is 00:39:42 I think he's my Most hated person on the planet Elon Yeah I hate him I genuinely hate him Yeah It's extremely unlikable Because he cares so much about
Starting point is 00:40:02 Being like Yeah It's all he cares about it's yeah he he weirdly is Reddit as well to me like he's he's read it as a human you know that like desperation for approval that like lack of identity and like all he is is like me doge yeah yeah I'm the internet guy I'm that one guy who gets the internet right Doge, got my meme coin, we're gonna fix the government with our Doge program. It just fucks more shit up.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And with Brazil on that stuff, man. They got a correct assessment. Brazil? On Do you not know about what Brazil's done with X? Like it's just a legal band in Brazil now. Because their assessment is like, one individual should not have this much power and wealth linked to a platform this global like it's we're crossing territory we're crossing lines that are really weird that is blade runner kind of hellscape stuff let's go Brazil max pain three baby I think there's like a strong argument for it
Starting point is 00:41:25 like yeah I use it I'm addicted to it be unaddicted but ban it I don't care, just get rid of it That's exactly how I feel about cigarettes Like stop giving me them You know You think, yeah, I'm just You think that would work? Yes
Starting point is 00:41:45 Well, you think I'd go find a dealer for Well, I don't know, I'm just kind of like that That level of misery What level of misery? Of like it being taken away Well no, then I wouldn't have the option There'd be like the withdrawal You just have to put up with it
Starting point is 00:42:00 well yeah like the the grumpy being grumpy uh-huh be like i'd be grumpy for like a week like but when you're in it and it's like i can walk two minutes right yeah and get a hit this like ban facebook less radicalized old people ban instagram less less young people seeing murder on a daily basis ban twitter less um the extremism the lack of like regulation as far as social media and stuff is concerned i heard a good analogy is kind of like the way um we look back at like seatbelts where at the time car companies were like no you don't need seatbelts this isn't something we need yeah we're not going to impede on your freedoms yeah exactly that was the argument right it was a freedom argument I say well actually loads of dudes are dying
Starting point is 00:43:04 yeah and who it who now is gonna be like no I think we shouldn't have the seatbelts in our cars actually it's a bad idea yeah yeah let's uh let's introduce uh 12 year olds did gore and uh the most insane pornography yeah every every child needs to to watch soar like but real not even a movie and that's Twitter that is Twitter now and yeah it is like a reminder of that wild west internet that like we were introduced to at a time where it was like a little bit scary horrible yeah like can't consent to seeing that stuff when you're like 12 years old but like it was just opened and everyone was just okay I guess we'll find out the ramifications of this in a few decades.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And even then, I feel like the conversation isn't really being had or relevant or anyone really cares. It's just kind of like, well, we're just in this now. I guess, uh, how do we, what do we do about this, like, direct correlation with, like, mental illness and misery and, like, kids not knowing, like... Kia has an answer. What? Arrest everyone. if you've been on the internet prison yeah they say we're in a prison state so why not just put a bow on it yeah might fix the housing crisis too but just a prison island like Australia
Starting point is 00:44:41 originally but yeah switcheroo yeah you know what we're why not he already is a fucking prison yeah no one can make enough money to get the fuck out yes i i i I don't know if I made any point from all that, but Twitter bad Twitter bad Anti-Semitism bad Um
Starting point is 00:45:08 the rise in it weird What The rise in it Oh Yeah I haven't seen it like this in my lifetime It's very weird But the rise in open racism
Starting point is 00:45:22 The rise in Just the dog whistling on Yeah it's not even just anti-semitism it's not even dog whistling anymore though go on YouTube like you'll get to a short that has like something where it's like dude steals a PS5 mm-hmm you know and then read the fucking comments yeah it's crazy people just like regurgitating shit that Stephen Crowder says mm-hmm which is openly racist awful fucking shit and you you You see it with anti-Semitism, you see it with, I mean, it, I feel like since Andrew Tate has been more officially imprisoned, the misogyny stuff is kind of taken a dip, because people are like, oh, the rampantly misogynistic, braggadacious pimp turned out to be a pimp who, like, assaulted.
Starting point is 00:46:21 That is the platforming argument, and that's kind of what people are upset about with the Elon. on bringing all these people back Tony Robinsons and Fuentes and stuff that's like they're smothered without the platform it's like what some people do they don't deserve it with some of their beliefs like yeah they're they're it's the intolerance paradox thing we're talking about yeah I totally believe now the ideas are like ridiculously dangerous mm-hmm you know like being when I was young the the way my mind could be swayed by a convincing, confident person. Yeah, because we're not truth seekers.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yeah. As humans, we're not. Yeah. We're, like, the... We just look for patterns that fit into the thing we already believe. But also, if it's coming from a person who has a charisma to them. An authority, yeah. And just like an entertaining personality, we're more inclined to believe the bullshit that they're saying.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah, and it doesn't even need to, like, make sense what they're saying. if they're just saying it in the right way if it just if the crowd is engaged with it if they're getting responses from people like yeah what the words even say don't even matter at a certain point that's what's scariest about it to me yeah it's um no i'm not going to say the f word yeah so but how would you counter then because i'm sure to somebody who believes these things who are happier that now
Starting point is 00:48:00 Twitter is the free speech platform and that it's no longer the left-leaning SJW anti-free speech nightmare and now we're in the prime and we're just being sensitive and we can't take a joke and I'm just trying to think what would be the
Starting point is 00:48:17 what would be the I guess it's a like free speech absolutism sort of argument like that of why it's fundamentally better for all these people to be back you only have to point at the like riots in our country where where did that yeah yeah get um where where were the from bringing back tommy yeah um and stuff like i've everything in america um all this the headline shit um that's my issue with it is it's a it's like a big American company with the Elon at the top the power isn't like diffused enough
Starting point is 00:49:05 for like the power of the messaging you know what I'm saying like for a platform that big to be controlled by such like a it's an individual it's not right for you need like a board that like breaks down the power and breaks down the power instead of this one person at the top who was like he got upset for example about a joe biden video that got more views than his announcement of the same thing so he got the engineer the twitter engineers to make it so that couldn't happen again it's like you're the richest man in the world you have a level of power that no one should have that should be allowed to have He reacted to his own app.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah. But like that is... I don't know why more people aren't, like, freaked out by that. Um... I think right-wing people don't give a shit because he aligns with them. He's engineered it, so he gets the most engagement and appears in, like, everybody's feed, I guess, unless you block him. And the stuff he is spreading is political in nature.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Mm-hmm. So it's like... a paid interest that is weighted a certain way and that's going to influence elections and well not just like just politics worldwide like attitudes worldwide yeah if it if it like translates into the real world and like infects the real world because that seems to be like a real disconnect with like that early internet where it didn't feel real it didn't feel like it was effect that it was a separate place where it doesn't feel like that anymore it feels like real life is like
Starting point is 00:50:53 almost dictated by this like crazy stuff that shared online yeah haramba he he broke the barrier the crux that's the point where it crossed over he was the final whore crux of like the keeping everything balanced the boundary between reality and internet horse shit and he died of fucking it will became blurred but yeah i mean like it let's say back in when back in 1930 or so let's say hitler got burned off twitter would everything that happened would have happened happened i beg to differ now we're getting deep but but genuinely like that's that like a movement like Like that comes from a person spreading an infectious idea.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You know, so if you just let, if, if Elon Musk, the richest guy in the world owning, like, the, a giant social media. He ushers in someone like Nick Fuentes. Yeah. Like that. But I don't, I don't know if I have to, if I'm able to even verbalize it. it feels anti free speech what he's doing that someone who truly believes in free speech would not platform themselves in that yeah exactly whereas like because that's i feel like another argument when people they get very sensitive when you say you're not a free speech absolutist or this kind
Starting point is 00:52:33 of thing whereas i do think like freedom of expression of free speech is extremely important but like they just prop it up in this way where it's like oh well i guess we're fine with this rampant just worst thing you've seen ever horrible ideas that like have no there's no positive way to spin it there's no like goodness to come for it and then it goes back to that uh tolerance uh you know yeah but it like i i think freedom of speech is like a myth like it doesn't exist anywhere it can't like what does it even mean like when when someone says freedom of speech is it like i'm allowed say whatever I can it's you're allowed to say anything when as long as it's not inciting violence you're allowed to say it and won't be punished for it there's there's already a um
Starting point is 00:53:28 like a restriction there and then like with the violence yeah and then restrictions going beyond if you publicly start spreading the like coke has poison it in it and that catches on and then you can be sued for that like and legally then you you're culpable like there's there's already so many boundaries to freedom of speech we just have an issue when we can't say the n word like that's that's the argument on like like Elon Musk's argument it's like well but but if someone says some bullshit about you then you can sue them and like fuck their life or change the algorithms of the thing you yeah or just ban them off your social media like it's it doesn't work both ways it like it it almost feels inherently
Starting point is 00:54:26 top down so at least the key a bullshit like it's coming direct from the government when he's arresting people for doing shit that like i'm against anyway and i think a society should be against anyway so so yeah that's the the line I don't really see a problem. Where you have to choose when to be intolerant to intolerance, right? That's the paradox we're talking about. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And you can say like it's a slippery slope. Yeah, because that's the fear, obviously. It's like, oh, you give, when the government is choosing what is legal and what isn't legal, then you can, to say, and you can keep restricting speech to a degree where then suddenly you find that you can't protest the government or whatever. Yeah, yeah. and like I'll agree with that when it actually impedes on something that shouldn't be impeded on you know like that as for maybe it's already gone far enough where I don't see that the boundary's been crossed so I never see well that boundary is pretty much defined by the country you were raised in like the beliefs of that country or but I mean like rampant open
Starting point is 00:55:42 racism and like just hatred for like each other and it's like the the edgy humour thing where it's like okay yes it's the same joke every single time and it's always that it's always pointing at that
Starting point is 00:56:06 like is there anything else any other observation it's a crutch it's something to fall back on for these actual racist so when they're called out on it oh no it's it's not like i'm not actually racist i'm just like making a an edgy joke i'm just asking questions yeah it's it's that that is a dog whistle that i'm just asking questions yeah that that's the i'm just asking questions or it's just a joke because like there's there's only one kind of person laughing at that stuff you know and they're the people who are either already like set deep within the pipeline or at the beginning of it mm-hmm because I remember like when I first I must spend like 16 or whatever
Starting point is 00:56:57 found out about 4chan and went on it and I guess I assumed it was like a satire website because that's like what it says like in the print and whatnot and you're like oh this is like an edgy this is a dream for a 16-year-old it's like edgy humor violence, whatever. And then, like, I must have gone on a, a humor thread or whatever, and then seen, like... Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Like, you're not joking, huh? There's no joke going on here. But they would have started at the same point. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you just go deeper and deeper, I guess. And it's...
Starting point is 00:57:36 You start believing... But that's what's crazy. It's, like, that jump of, like... going from oh this this is real this is a social infection that's changing people you know what I mean like the the conspiracy theory stuff when it gets like really intense and then you get like Aiden Ross watching like 9-11 conspiracy videos on sorry I think I'm getting confused with the leafy but you know whatever you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:58:13 yeah no it's there's definitely crossed wires there with like conspiracy theories and like a anti-Semitism
Starting point is 00:58:26 racism any intolerant group we're just like yeah funnels towards any white supremacy like create replacement theories
Starting point is 00:58:40 and all this shit yeah um Um, yeah, and it, it always starts off as like a joke. It's exactly how, like, I think Dave Ruben, Mr. What do they call him? Dave Rubel. He, he, in the period when I was like a late teenager, um, only just getting into politics, like
Starting point is 00:59:10 yeah yeah incredibly susceptible and he started off just coming out of um that show the chanker's on oh um young turks young turks i'm pretty sure he started yeah you're right he was he just came off that and he was like i'm just a left wing guy um classical liberal everyone else was i didn't think he'd reach that point yet i wasn't even saying that um maybe he was but it meant something else then and he was like I'm just gonna talk to everyone and like be reasonable and blah blah blah yeah like he
Starting point is 00:59:45 the intellectual dark web was born yeah but he took you on a journey because I started watching his videos thinking like yeah I kind of aligned with this guy and then he just went down this dark rabbit hole when like when he's like eating fucking
Starting point is 01:00:02 Ben Shapiro's ass while Ben Shapiro is taking a shit all over there. It got to points like that where I was like, wait a minute, like why didn't I stop this a long time ago? Because these, like, I... And there's this, it's this thing I've noticed
Starting point is 01:00:25 from, like, just, I guess, being alive so long with YouTube and seeing these trends come and go. There's this type of content and Dave Rubin is an awesome example of it where it's like they have this conversation where they act like it's the conversation they need to be having that we need to be having but the conversation is just them saying about how important that conversation is for like an hour and it's like this is what about this thing we can't talk about anymore? Oh man like I agree with you man that's crazy we can't talk about that anymore and then more about this other thing that like you know and it just goes in circles like just jerking each other off about how they're having this really important. conversation but then like when you actually like tally at the end like what's been talked to say well I guess I'm a classical liberal too huh it's crazy but then like I was I was like late teens I guess you were would have been like midteens like being
Starting point is 01:01:25 introduced that stuff and like only just making out the other side you know like just dodging like getting a few strays like Neo like like on the way with this like radicalization software that's been funneled to everybody. But then what about the people that like did, don't, aren't, never have that moment of like, wait, what is, what am I being shown? Like, what are the, what am I supposed to be taking away
Starting point is 01:01:54 from these things that I'm reading that are being said to me that are being joked about? Yeah, yeah. Um, where does this lead? Yeah, it's psychos. And it's like, it makes you wonder, like, what would it have taken for me to have been just sucked that bit deeper into the pipeline where I couldn't, like, where I was too far, or at least far enough where I'd still be in it now. Yeah. Where do you put the blame for this as well?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Because I see all these, like, these crowders and whatnot. They're almost more like a symptom of something. Yeah, yeah. I think it's systematic and cultural. like the system definitely rewards these people yeah well that's why i go back to like the silicon valley people that designed it yeah yeah they made it they made this problem they had no idea that like it was like well we're gonna make this amazing thing that like just gives you what you want to see like the stuff that you engage with the most like obviously you want more of that
Starting point is 01:02:58 but that's when the seatbelt thing comes in where it's like what we instinctually want is bad yeah we want what's easy it's also not what we actually want because yeah yeah like we engage with conflict more than like anything yeah of course so when you see some shit and that that was definitely part of why it blew up so big early on and there was kind of an edgy like you know what the these guys are well-spoken they're making sense and they're kind of against the grain it's like a counterculture thing yeah it felt especially when you're a teenager you're like yeah yeah yeah and it felt almost punk like uh-huh the intellectual dark web yeah yeah i mean that that name is so perfect um and it the the like the it's all settled down over the past few years and it's been
Starting point is 01:03:49 like these for us but i feel like that cycle started again with like the 15 year olds yeah i'm i'm sure it always will maybe it always has but it's like to a next level we didn't have like Andrew Tate people doing that yeah it wasn't yeah because it wasn't refined to like that art that he had it to which like his minions spreading his voice and whatnot so you don't even need to like it's impossible without the internet and he he didn't even need the minions you know he was rich off of being a pimp yeah it was pure ego that sent him like yeah because the that's the thing it's like once you have the money it's the same those are big streamers that are like so rich it's like because the influence is the valuable bit at the end that's the bit they get
Starting point is 01:04:37 addicted to that they want to hold on yeah yeah otherwise why else would they do it like what and that's whole andrew tait's entire downfall is the fact that he was willing to brag about all this dumb shit he did yeah if you just held his tongue you probably could have got away with it like all the other like silent millionaires that probably made their money doing horrific shit that you just don't know about Jesus. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:04 What are we talking about? How we get there? When? Dave Ruben. Dave Rubel. Did Andrew Tate get money from Russia? Not sure. Not sure.
Starting point is 01:05:20 But yeah, uh, today's sponsor is Russia today. We should, um, we should do a, we should record some new, um, like, shirt adverts and, like, do a fake Russian voice for the whole thing, like, speaking Russian. Just a message from our sponsors. No, enstruez, you know. But the fact that, like, that, because that's been, like, a, I guess, like a theory, a game theory for a while, like, these bots and, like, these Russian interference and social media and whatnot. but there's like more and more evidence of it part of it turns out it's just real yeah and these weird bots that like scrape Reddit posts from like 2012 and so it's really creepy it makes you a question like how much of the internet is just this weird like scraping reposting just
Starting point is 01:06:17 AI stuff yeah dead internet theory right because that was already bad before AI bots were doing stuff right like the dead internet theory was already a theory let alone when you add in the the robots that can do it so efficiently yeah such a high i don't know if logically it seems like if it keeps going in this direction that there's going to be a point where you just have to log off like all people like we'll just have to revert because everything you read like the majority will be fake yeah I think that's we basically I think that's the only way we fix it is by getting there we have to ruin it like it's it's it's it's been and shitted like it's already the enshrining has been the best things
Starting point is 01:07:14 we're going to get from it we've got right so now we need to just yeah we got keyboard cap we got Charlie bit my finger skibbly toilet right at the end there yeah You know, it was like a few years there where things were just awesome, you know. And that panda video is pretty good. Chipmunk, classic. The panda are falling? Yeah, yeah. The gopher.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Yeah, dramatic look. The real stuff. Old school buggy, splashing. Buggy with the guitar hero guitar. Fuck, yeah. I always go back to that splash. Pre-cancer buggy. All of it is pretty.
Starting point is 01:07:55 cancer book yeah any more on that one before we go to mid break it's been kind of a long one but I can do a little bit of questions when we come back if you're okay with that yeah I'm I mean I'm just I just want to iterate that I am incredibly right wing Oh yeah, if that hasn't been clear Yeah So don't send your Crowder and Shapiro Goons after us We're one of you Yeah, we're with Russia today too
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah We've been making so much Rubel Oh yeah These walls are Stuffed with Rubel Many, many rubal sprinkling ruble
Starting point is 01:08:54 it's an edible currency herbal rubal it's the first edible currency I'll say I call that a meal ticket mhm dry media shirts now or I'm going to hurt you
Starting point is 01:09:16 description below burger is dead Burger bear is dead Booboo shot him in the head Obo shouting in the head There's a puppy bear is dead Yo There's a puppy bear is dead
Starting point is 01:09:35 That Well Well There's a puppy down the well Well There's a puppy that's called well That has fallen down the well well
Starting point is 01:09:50 yeah man do you ever have moments just like that well you just have to the only thing that you can do is just look up and go why me have you ever done that have you ever actually gone why
Starting point is 01:10:14 or no no no perhaps it doesn't really have the same room maybe are we I don't know yeah I've only done it when I've really wanted to understand something and I said it as in K-N-O-W no I don't don't know or i want to no no yeah i feel like there's a whole there's a whole field of exploration there like the just that movie shot you're on top of the skyscraper you're on the cliff edge and you just let it rip you just yeah do you want to run scream off like a cliff
Starting point is 01:11:16 I think I might if I was there I want to start an avalanche with run What if there's like a skier A cataclysmic avalanche that destroys an entire Mountain Town Because they didn't run first enough You won them
Starting point is 01:11:42 I won them But the warning also was the threat yeah pretty clever in that way you can make a whole movie about it the warning was the threat that's the tagline
Starting point is 01:11:56 yeah the name run run the warning was the threat that exactly that right there is exactly how the Kevin Smith film Tusk was made
Starting point is 01:12:09 yeah as podcast yeah yeah only difference is we don't have access to ban not yet um i guess yes this is part of the show we head over to the suggestion thread over on the subreddit on that knee slapping subreddit have you ever done that
Starting point is 01:12:30 when something's funny like gone you know what that is a little knee slap um no i value my knee health when you hear a good yogi bear is dead you know Yeah, in that context, yeah. Well, miniature runny says Bear Bear Jar. From your memory, what are the worst jar moments or episodes? Moments that make you wince or look back on with absolute abject overwhelming true disgust. Disgust?
Starting point is 01:13:13 Every time I said yeah just anything that's like a real reflection of its time in 2016 17 18 yeah jesus christ in particular also when i said there's no way donald trump is winning did you say that yeah i said i was it was like duh like i was writing south park or something yeah yeah there's just no way yeah yeah i'm sure there's so many of those there um maybe in hindsight the the toilet paper thing what toilet but oh the around COVID you mean yeah like like I I understand the audience being kind of annoyed yeah I know but it it was I wouldn't change that though personally yeah because
Starting point is 01:14:07 it it was like a a miracle you know we could do that joke without actually depriving anyone because you'd had that toilet paper. We could do that exact same joke right now. That's how much toilet paper I have. You still have that much? Yes. What the fuck? Are you just terrified that someday you're going to, like, do that wipe?
Starting point is 01:14:26 It's a, I don't know. I guess it's like a deep rooted insecurity of mine. It makes me feel secure to just know that like, if I had Ria that bad, you know, like I'm good. Yeah. And that's kind of reassuring to me. I didn't know if anyone's ever had Ria that bad. Bad enough to have to use it.
Starting point is 01:14:44 all the toilet paper in this house. I don't know, man. Better safe than sorry is all I say. Yeah. As far as that stuff's concerned. And I was like, that was one of the times I was like, you know what? This is exactly why I'm right to do this crazy shit, you know? And the one time it's like, finally it was worthwhile buying all this paper.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yeah, I don't really have anything too crazy. Because for me, it's like, one. Once it's out, then it's gone, and I don't even remember what I said. So is it even real? I feel that way a lot at the time as well. Like what? I don't know what I said. Yeah, I couldn't tell you.
Starting point is 01:15:27 You could tell me something I did say a hundred episodes ago, and I'll say, no, I didn't. Yeah. Because I didn't. Yeah. Well, yeah, like, current me, I didn't say that. Yeah. I don't understand, but who is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:40 A fragment of a whisper once passed. us. Beautifully put, 100%. John Zibli too says Will we see and are cigars as good as they say video any time soon? The people of the Jaya Republic need to know the truth. Could be a controversial one.
Starting point is 01:16:04 We're a Jarl monarchy as well, correct yourself. I would say the second we start well, we probably have to do some research so we know what to say about cigars for a start. I know we give off the impression that we're smoking those £1,000 cigars every weekend, but well, the truth is, it was the same box of cigars for like two years, maybe. If not longer. It's been a while.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah, they last. They wipe you out for a good month. Yeah. And only once or twice. maybe five I say five times if I smoked a cigar not on the cast
Starting point is 01:16:47 Okay And there was a question I didn't screen cap That was like Have you felt that urge And I haven't with cigars As far as like That thing you talk about
Starting point is 01:16:58 Whereas when you buy that first pack It's like that's a sign You know As far as six I haven't had it with gars But I have had it with The mini gars Cigarillo is aware
Starting point is 01:17:10 Right okay I've had that I had a few weeks ago I had it really bad where I was like the day was coming to an end it was like 7 p.m the sun was going down it was like nice sun was out there was a slight breeze in the air I was like I really want one of those little cigars right now I really want one I really want one and you didn't get one but I didn't but I thought like it would in minutes I could have one in my hands I don't think you'd be at risk though
Starting point is 01:17:44 You think I'd be safe with that one? Yeah Because like that's That's not like a nicotine withdrawal No but there's also I don't know It's almost like an admittance Like
Starting point is 01:17:58 Yeah it's there's a psychological bit At play Yeah you don't want to be like It felt to me like put my hands up like Well Add this one to the cards then I guess Like Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:18:13 But I didn't Doesn't mean I won't now Well, I mean don't Yeah I think that's a bad reason for wanting to do it I think yeah Because if If then you associate
Starting point is 01:18:30 That moment The sun going down You know, the end of the day Right, it's time for my go Then it becomes a routine and then then maybe one isn't enough that's the thing
Starting point is 01:18:46 because that's what's cool in disco elysium amazing game the side character is like one of his quirks is that he has one cigarette every day and it's like the last thing
Starting point is 01:18:57 he does before bed is have his one cigarette when he's like decompressing at the end of the day if you got that level of discipline I feel like one cigarette a day is not going to like
Starting point is 01:19:05 drastically change your lifespan or anything um one and like apart from that he's like that's his vice just one cigarette out of here I wouldn't recommend it no but if that's the thing of like
Starting point is 01:19:25 this is one vice he's healthy otherwise he doesn't drink he doesn't eat cabri's he doesn't eat Nestle yeah especially Nestle I love Nestle munchies Yeah, but not the disgusting variant Huh?
Starting point is 01:19:43 Huh? What do you mean? No, we'll just get lost down a whole different pipeline No, what's the disgusting variant? I have to know. You know, idiot gimmick flavor. Which one? The like crunchy one?
Starting point is 01:19:57 No, it's like cookie dough or something. Nah, it's nothing compared to OG. OG wins. Yeah, but sometimes No, there's no room for that It never replaced it But I told you we get lost down this Now I forgot what we're talking about
Starting point is 01:20:14 I knew munchies were getting the way They always do They might I have one munchy at night To decompress when the sun is setting Yeah I gotta have one munch Um
Starting point is 01:20:29 Loptical That's one I probably should put in housekeeping But it does relate to house More of a house cleaning question Tee here But I put it here anyway Randy was 100% correct in that Dr. Gregory House, M.D., is based on Sherlock Holmes, the first episode directed by Brown Singer, featuring a teacher and all her students,
Starting point is 01:20:49 is centered around Miss Adler. Irene Adler made Sherlock Holmes respect women, and the ending is similar to Holmes faking his death. There's lots of similarities such as them both being drug addicts, playing instruments really well, and plenty more. And then Cocholulu corrected him saying, you are mistaken, that was not Randy. it was his brother Alex Oh yeah Yeah Just a bit of a correction there
Starting point is 01:21:13 But otherwise A bit of the Moriarty to your Sherlock Hmm Um Okay Like Like I said a bit of myself
Starting point is 01:21:20 Sherlock can suck No like the character Sherlock Holmes cool The BBC show Sherlock Not cool House cool How's cool? Even Robert Downey Jr.'s Sherlock kind of cool. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Stupid. Stupid, but cooler than the BBC one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you, like, the books, that character is cool? He's a good character. It's like a classic character.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Yeah. But I don't care. It's like Pinocchio or something. I don't give a shit. You know what I want to see? Out of... Sherlock. Holmes or Pinocchio who's more badass house which would be more hype to okay would it be
Starting point is 01:22:11 more hype if in Sherlock Holmes a portal opened and Pinocchio came in or in Pinocchio a portal open as Sherlock Holmes and Watson came in which is more hype which is more this is cinema I think it would be more hype if it was the intro to a house episode and the person getting ill at the beginning was Pinocchio coming and being like I need to become a real boy I'm sick of this
Starting point is 01:22:47 you know and then houses to figure out how to make him a real boy yeah and it'd be so good like you could do so much with house and the portals like just a portal opens and it's like I've got grayscale from Game of Thrones from HBO's Game of Thrones shit
Starting point is 01:23:04 oh you could do it and then there could be like a multiverse episode where it's like Robert Downey coming in Benedict Cumberbatch coming in yeah Rick from the Walking Dead a bit
Starting point is 01:23:13 get him a lumbar puncture and an IV trip this is a show yeah bring him back bring him out retirement let's go you know this is exactly
Starting point is 01:23:30 how the movie Tusk was made Worst film ever made Tusk Of which I still see like It's one of those TikTok films where like It gets like mention like You have got to see this freaky one This one a man It did make you feel quite uncomfortable
Starting point is 01:23:52 I don't like That sort of body horror I like it Because the little one because let's do a couple more here right I mentioned I should probably show you this because I mentioned Grammy earlier in the episode right
Starting point is 01:24:13 um his post explaining my thought process in birthing hawk to a deadpool you mistakenly immediately wrote this idea off with your initial disgust at the phrase hawk tour but I genuinely think that this is worthy and necessary continuation of the Hot Girl Booty Spider-Man ethos. I think both of these terms are becoming irrelevant at this juncture,
Starting point is 01:24:41 so the time may have passed, but I would encourage you to reflect on any currently booming sexually charged phrases and popular superhero characters. Trust me, there will be. And when the time is right, you will have the perfect concoction of engagement bait that made Hot Girl Booty Spider-Man your 35th most viewed video. And if you wanted to take this idea further, the first and third most popular videos on the human-born fresh YouTube channel are about the nostalgia critic, those videos being the worst movie review on YouTube and is the nostalgia critic as cringe as they say.
Starting point is 01:25:16 If you take away anything from this, it's important to preserve the legacy of average jokes and rip on them and beat the dead horse until the milk runs dry. Feel free to ignore this if you do read this, but make a post. But I did make a post with a selection of potential thumbnails that would... I'd like to hear your thoughts on, if possible. Maybe I'll just show you one or two here, just so you get a general idea, sort of what he's conceptualizing.
Starting point is 01:25:42 There's, yeah, so he's put the work in, quite like that one. So, yeah. Wow. Thoughts? Um This goes on to something I mean To be honest
Starting point is 01:26:03 And not many Uh Not many people in In this position would say this But I think this gentleman What was his name? Grimmie Gentry
Starting point is 01:26:15 I think you should start a YouTube channel I think you should do this yourself still give us all your free ideas but also do your thing yeah do your own ones keep the faucet with a little drip people get thirsty oh they get bloody thirsty and speaking of thirsty
Starting point is 01:26:46 radio heads all bums pen says hey Ever watched Panic at the Disco's cover of Karma Police from Radiohead? If so, what do you think about it? What's your opinion on both artists? I haven't seen it and it sucks. I haven't seen it. I'm scared of hearing that.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I hate Panic at the Disco. Is that Brendan Uri? Yeah. Yeah, fuck that guy. He is 3D printed. He's 3D printed and his voice is 3D printed. He's got a 3D printed voice. Yeah. I hate him. Oh, he sucks. He fucking sucks. I hate that guy. I don't hate him as a person. I hate him as a representation of what I hate.
Starting point is 01:27:35 He was like, like, a alien queen laid him. You know, he's got that vibe. He's like an alien cross predator. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't like him. His, um, his cover of behem. Rhapsody made me... It radicalized me, for a period. Um... Not a fan. Where is Radiohead Rock?
Starting point is 01:28:05 Live in Denver, Karma Police, by Panic at the Disco. that was cruel that felt really nasty it's like um oil in water you know yeah fuck
Starting point is 01:28:34 what a horrible combination the opposite of like peanut butter and jelly you know have you ever had the fuck
Starting point is 01:28:45 have you ever had peanut butter and jelly no of course I haven't I'm not fucking American yeah a fucking relevant what do we we are Americans
Starting point is 01:28:57 like what do we eat we have our sort of potatoes jelly no jelly's different I love jelly what do we call it
Starting point is 01:29:05 jam jam peanut better jam yeah I like get a knife and I go between my toes and then I scrub whatever that is
Starting point is 01:29:15 all over my bread with a bit of peanut and then I get my American flag and I wave it and that's how I know Brendan Yuri has talent Is Brendan Urey British or American?
Starting point is 01:29:27 He's American, isn't he? Oh, thank you. No, but bro, we used to have some cool British pop stars, but who have we got left? Who? Megan Traynor? Ooh. Uh. Huh?
Starting point is 01:29:44 Ed Sheeran? Sam Smith? Sam Smith? We got Charlie at least. Thank Christ, do we have Charlie? But that's it. Yeah, but who... Of course, Charlie is carrying the flag.
Starting point is 01:30:04 God. Who else is there? Who is the... I guess Radioheader kind of kicking? The Smilers? Yeah, there's no one. You know? No one good.
Starting point is 01:30:20 No one on the level of like a queen. David Bowie, you know? I mean, when's the last time we had a David Bowie? I don't know, David Bowie. I mean, like, what do you mean? Because Ed Sheeran was, like, the biggest artist in the world for years. But, like, it's Ed Sheeran. It's not cool, like, Queen or David Bowie.
Starting point is 01:30:53 But, like, just because you don't like them, like, you have to give him credit that he was fucking huge. I guess, but so's Drake. We can agree that Ed Sheeran is better than Drake. Yes. But, just like Prometheus and Mass Effect 3, both suck. Yeah, but again, one sucks more. Drake the engineer or is Ed Shearing the engineer in this situation? Drake is the Reaper.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Ed Shearing, Ed Shearing is... More ways than one. Ed Shearing is Fastbender. So Ed Shearing is Michael Fastbender. And Drake... Is Ed Sheeran? Dude. Um, we've got two more here, for you wrap up.
Starting point is 01:31:48 No title 5-1-4 says, given the recent release of the brand new cinematic masterpiece and comedic genius documentary am I a racist from the author Matt Walsh he reminds me that Alex Logged's previous classic what is a woman but didn't rate it on letterboxed did Alex enjoy seeing Matt Walsh destroy those woke moralists or did he see it the true death of intellectualism the film that and Matt Walsh's perspective truly was I didn't really rate it on letterbox because it felt it felt more like rating like an SJW owned compilation or something you know that's what it was more to me so do you as far as they go was it a good one um I didn't take
Starting point is 01:32:39 notes while watching it I have to admit I remember very little about you liked it though didn't you it was just hype obviously they find him very smug and annoying and then like like a month after that documentary came out he went on like Drew Rogan and was humiliated with that stats thing but it's like what
Starting point is 01:32:59 you just you just made a documentary about this subject and you yeah like you don't really need anything else beyond that
Starting point is 01:33:09 um and yeah this new one it's like it's just making these provocative movies to piss people off and then like it's part of it
Starting point is 01:33:19 what we were said before yeah well people they're calling him the the bull rat like of the right so we'll see
Starting point is 01:33:36 yeah because like on the daily while whatever they upload like the most ultimate undercover actor of our time Matt Walsh here he is it's like I mean
Starting point is 01:33:50 The power of having a thick beard and a deep voice. So you're kind of dumb, right? I mean, I guess. I mean, what can you expect from a Welshman? What? Matt Welsh. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, but, um...
Starting point is 01:34:12 Have you considered that men are women and women are men? Do women have balls? Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, I watched it and I thought it was fucking sick. No, I've not watched it and I, I've seen a few clips and, yeah, I, I guess I assumed that there was more to it than just those bits where he's like saying basically what I just said, do women have balls? What's a woman?
Starting point is 01:34:50 Like, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't seem the most educational, I guess I'd say. And definitely fair. Hmm. He's, would you say he's, he's definitely not going into it with a, with, with his mind already made? Would you say he's definitely not doing that? well i don't even know what he says so i can't do if at least with jordan we've got these woke moralists cultural marxist what is what is matt say oh what's that other
Starting point is 01:35:40 peterson's got so many he always goes to that one one you're bloody right he loves saying bloody yeah it's really weird is that a canadian thing when he's getting serious the bloody comes up yeah you better bloody take this seriously you had a little he doesn't laugh
Starting point is 01:36:05 there because it always comes back to bloody oh bloody what the fuck take it bloody seriously what is that one that you serve you're gonna have to move on because that could be the ultimate project like create a character
Starting point is 01:36:26 where the whole point of the character is to convince the daily wire to like hire you as like a mat walsh tight talking head but like the whole time you were in character and then you come out of doing bloody and then once you're in then you let the character go while you're like working on a Mac Walsh documentary, a double agent, making your own documentary halfway through his documentary. The thing is, how do you know you won't get lost in the source? That could be part of it, you know? Maybe, but like, that's how Alex Jones began, right? You like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, you're doing it and doing it, and then like the accent is becoming more and more, yeah, yeah, you're looking in the mirror going, bloody, bloody. It just becomes natural. And then,
Starting point is 01:37:16 and then suddenly you're seeing that. the money pile in from Russia and you're Bloody Bloody and yeah
Starting point is 01:37:25 The Stroach and a bloody Yeah suddenly it's It all just feels right And then yeah You tried to do an impression of Jordan Peterson
Starting point is 01:37:38 But your voice just is Peterson's voice And you can That's what you know Do you think he's ever Looked in the mirror And gone Bloody
Starting point is 01:37:46 in a perfect British accent bloody fuck I wonder if any of them at this point did start off that way I'm gonna infiltrate I'm like I'm on the right yeah I'm doing this for the right reasons I'm yeah I'm gonna do an expose
Starting point is 01:38:06 when I'm through with all of this fuck me that's a lot of money yeah yeah I'm gonna be a whistleblower when this is all said and done gung B... Cartoonsish thing.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Oh, he's turning into dollars. Yeah. Then all of a sudden, your beliefs don't mean much. Yeah. They bought and paid for. By the Geekave. No. I was gonna do one more,
Starting point is 01:38:44 it's too big. I don't know. Do, make one up? Um, skibbiddy writes in this. Um, when you look in the mirror, do you say bloody or do you...

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