JAR Media Posdact - Totally Legit - JARCAST Episode 154

Episode Date: February 18, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good afternoon, morning, evening on night. Ladies and gentlemen out there, you worms and wormlets. This is the jarcast. Jarkast, it's the slightly smaller jarcast than usual. Jim's off with his Mexican family, I'm in a good old time. Smoking loads of weed. Smoking loads of weeds, just having a blast, you know. Sickening on that.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Jim's a while. old boy, he is crazy. So I'm your host, Alex, and it's just me and James. It's us to, it's the classic. It's the O Classic, which hasn't happened. Is this the only time this has ever happened? No, last year, because Jim was away last year as well.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I think we did like one or two episodes. Or one at Max, it was just us to. We've never really done. No way, I can't remember. I genuinely can't remember. I know we've done lots of what we dubbed as brocasts, where it's just me and Jim. That was like early jar when, you know, Reuben was at uni and I
Starting point is 00:01:00 was out as well. But there was never much James X. Alex. There's never ever been a James and Ruben. That's never happened. It probably won't happen. There's never been a me and Jamie cast. It's only been me and you. You've done one without me, though, the three of you. Yeah, and it was really bad. It was a really bad episode.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I've actually never listened to it. I've been meaning to. It's not that good. Maybe if we reach the Patreon stretch goal, speaking of, thank you for all the patrons out there who support the show and make things possible. Yeah, because the episode where you weren't there was like a meme. It was like this was a meme, was it? Yeah, because it was just...
Starting point is 00:01:37 I flicked through it before and been like, yep, they're just talking about topics, which for Giacast around about then, probably would have been like, well, they're actually talking about something. They're actually doing something instead of just arguing about Coe and crap. God, that was true on the period where every episode was about Marvel, so
Starting point is 00:01:53 we've probably talked about Marvel or Jessica Jones or something. I miss those days. I don't... Because we just don't get enough Marvel anymore We do We just get...
Starting point is 00:02:03 I've been sarcastic as well This is like a James Blab from... I clearly didn't Like get your sarcasmuth. It's because everything I say Sounds like I'm really unenthused And I don't care about it So
Starting point is 00:02:15 I can't blame me We've done loads of like James Blubs Like really early job We did loads of James Blab Yeah for those I don't know JAR Media Used to not have a podcast At least in this form
Starting point is 00:02:26 We had a show called blabs which we still do now and again but we had a very special series of blabs which are still out there called James Blabs I'm sure if you just put James Blab into YouTube you'll find them that was like that was prior
Starting point is 00:02:42 to you moving to your flat so that was the really old school like jar of being in your bedroom with one that blue yety mic on the desk with your tiny laptop and like recording that way that's how we used to do videos and that is our origin and so our best jar
Starting point is 00:02:58 content was on that era because it was so off the chain it was just completely crazy. There's just no structure, nothing holding it together. If we had a video like Jim or Wuma be in the background just like shouting or something like that. They'd just shout out whenever they felt like it and singing, shake it off by Taylor Swift with
Starting point is 00:03:16 Final Fantasy 15 like beta, whatever it was called Duske demo or whatever. Yeah and then there's the whole James' racist video where Jim would just come in say something really racist. It's just like, what the fuck? had like the same five games
Starting point is 00:03:31 I'd use footage from in the background that was Final Fantasy 15 what games were out during that period because I literally can't remember back I used like
Starting point is 00:03:40 the original style was Battlefront 2 of fair amount I used a lot of yeah you used a lot of that one was in the James 's racist episode
Starting point is 00:03:47 that was in the James that one I can't remember it of the other it was destiny you didn't use destiny no we did use destiny a few times
Starting point is 00:03:56 I remember a couple times because I remember doing a blab on that first expansion for destiny or something yeah i remember that yeah yeah because originally jarmedia was like my contingency plan because i made it around the time where it's like look these really shit channels that like put no effort in a sudden i really take off so i was like maybe if i just have one of those on the side just see what happens and then just morphed into them it's like fucked into this where it's actually somewhat better quality but just like completely
Starting point is 00:04:26 off the world still in this kind of weird way. Yeah. It's crazy. What do we want to lead with? Because we had a funny thing happen just moments ago actually while we were...
Starting point is 00:04:38 To talk about that, we've actually talked about what we've been doing. Okay, what have you been doing? It's been ages for us. It has because we pre-recorded the last episode for when Jim went away. So it's been quite a while and I've fallen victim
Starting point is 00:04:54 to the the next big BR game battle royale yep I've been just been paying shit loads let's put on our gamer caps right this on
Starting point is 00:05:04 I've been playing just a shitload of Apex Legends Apex Legends Like I've never been this invested in a game ever Like It's not true You mean since
Starting point is 00:05:13 Since the big Since the glorious modern warfare too Yes It's at the point that I will get home And I will like One from a door Like a child Like yes
Starting point is 00:05:22 And just get upstairs To play Apex Legends I fucking love it because it's this one all for two maybe it's the same game I play it the same way where it's like I don't think it's all instinctual I just know what to do so conscious mind just takes over it's just it's still there so I just play like that and I have just great fun and we and this is how we you play it on PC of course I play on PC with a controller the only way to play it really I'm sure
Starting point is 00:05:49 someone out there will have a problem with that so obviously the PC being the one with all the better players I fucking I you I You know, they're getting handed some fucking ass. You know, they're getting... Oh. I love it, though. So you were showing me the basics of the game on Xbox one, because, you know, I'm still behind.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You are? You're still on the Xbox, so I played a few rounds, and we did this one match where... Shit dropped, shit everything. But I died quickly. We had a teammate, a squadmate. He was a bit vocal about his... a discontent with my player
Starting point is 00:06:28 like I forgot people actually still do this well that it's an even option anymore it's like playing PC it doesn't happen because you have to exit the program to go into the whatever thing to message so what happened was get a little notification
Starting point is 00:06:42 after James finishes the game saying you got a message from someone yeah I was like oh what does it say open it up skadoosh it's probably something really nice it's just three of the clapping hand emojis followed by scrub first of
Starting point is 00:06:57 I cannot believe that that language is still being used scrub scrub that was like modern warfare too here that that language was really old scrub yeah that's one I never actually used I never used it I remember using
Starting point is 00:07:12 like noob quite a lot everyone used me if you if you're gamer I haven't used noob you're not really a gamer everyone's used game at like nove at some point and ponage poned that kind of shit Um, everyone did that too around the same time.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I was never that quengy. Poned, and poned. Let's be real, like scrub, noob, powned is all in the same bucket, so if you use any of them. No, because scub is like the edgy one for the people who think they're really good. I'm like, fucking scrub. That's the type of stuff I would say. But I never said that. I never said scub.
Starting point is 00:07:48 But yeah, of course I see this and my, my mouth starts watering because it just, takes me straight back to when I was probably the worst person I ever was, to be honest, just this cretin, this bedroom cretin who would live just to troll people and message people. This is the IGN board comment section kind of that area. Yeah, that's what, honestly, being a troll on IGN in like 2009, 2010, did dictate my, my trajectory through life. No, I'm being serious.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Because it's a dumbest feeling as I'm saying. Listen to my rationale. Obsessed with IGN for some reason, just always going in the comments. I actually don't get that because whenever I'd see you, it'd always just be you
Starting point is 00:08:41 complaining about IGN but you actually spent all of your time just on the IG. Love a relationship, you know, how it is. That's where I got my gaming news. As a gamer, I needed somewhere to get my gaming news. Well, to be fair, This was at the time when all of these
Starting point is 00:08:55 YouTube channels used to do gaming news weren't a pling. You literally had to get it from IGN or those type places, don't it? I mean, I still look at IGN. I still love the app. It's a really bad app, but I still do look at the stories. I've actually never used IGA. I've never ever gone on IGN. Really? Yeah. My only experience of it is your experience with it, basically.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Secondhand IGN experience. But, yeah, because I was sort of a bit of an infamous troll on IGN. I got replies from... Was that the John Smith? Is that, you see? I made, I made Killzone sucks ass, uh,
Starting point is 00:09:29 and a bunch of other, you know, probably quite offensive names. Like, people won't get that. If you say Killzone sucks ass, most people, Nardoes don't get that, but because we were in that era where Killzone was like the big competitor to Halo,
Starting point is 00:09:41 it was like, it was like 2008, 2009, where it was all about, and Killzone 3 was coming out, and everyone on Xbox already had Halo 3, so it was like, yeah, this is the,
Starting point is 00:09:54 battle and everyone's like look at how beautiful kill zone three is and i sat in my corner and saying no this will not stand i'm going to prove my worth by going into the comments and i can arguing with whoever i was the problem in a lot of ways i was you were you were you were cancerous and you were yeah i will i will i will i will take full responsibility for that but yeah i got i got replies from many of the ig n staff i remember gregg miller even replying to me oh my god really you actually got noticed by the IGMB boys and it was always something like a very adult response like
Starting point is 00:10:28 look you've been very immature if you've got nothing good to add then just go away which to me was just like the funniest thing in the world because you know it's just a kid it was your best era because it was just funny
Starting point is 00:10:44 because you just scream laugh at every single thing oh I'd also troll Amazon reviews and What about your Amazon reviews? Yeah, I would write these, like, really elaborate reviews for products on Amazon. Are they still on your Amazon account? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 No, we need to get them up. We need to, no, we need to, Alex. Some of them were fucking gold. And there was Yahoo answers as well. Oh, Alex. Yahoo answers? Yes. I would ask these, like, absurd questions.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And would, like, try and get points. from them or something. But my Yahoo answers account got banned for something I remember thinking was quite unfair and I was very upset because I couldn't I could no longer go and look at the funny questions I'd asked in the past because my account was banned.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That really upset me greatly. You think during this age like everyone else would only know about it by just the screenshots you'd probably post on the Facebook group. You'd just post these really dumb answers, no context and that was how we find out about it all. And then
Starting point is 00:11:52 go there and you'd like read it out and go through it. Yeah. Oh my god. So in a way that trolling thing was my equivalent of your passion for modern warfare too in a way. That was my, that was mine. You just go home every day to just be like, I'm just going to troll.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I'm angry today and a troll even harder. Yeah. I wasn't even like you weren't, no, but the thing is you weren't like a normal, like one of the predictable trolls. You're really weird. It wasn't like out of frustration and genuine hatred. It was just like mischief. Like, loki.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Just, I want to be annoying. And you did it in the weirdest ways, because you wouldn't word it all like a normal troll. You'd be really kind of smart with it in this weird way. And then that morphed into like the whole Iceman thing with trolling Iceman. And that ended up being jar, and that's kind of... And with... For some reason, um, on IGN once upon a time when I was browsing,
Starting point is 00:12:52 like I did daily. There was a video from spill.com that was on IGN for some reason so I watched it and was like well this is shit I'm gonna go watch all their videos and then went and watched all of them and became the biggest spill.com fan
Starting point is 00:13:06 which is what started my whole love for movies and everything like that and I was I've never been as into like any community or fandom or anything as I was for spill.com I even tried to get into spill when they were, it was later in their life before they came double toasted and that the whole split. And I remember that. Yeah, they were good. Oh man, I was, I was genuinely
Starting point is 00:13:31 quite upset when that website was taken down and the crew like disbanded. It was like a real, how am I going to understand myself now? It was, it was such a like routine for me where it's like, they got this podcast on this day and they got this thing on it and movie reviews and everything. It's like a safety net for me. And then it all just evaporated. And then you had to make your own fun You had to find something to feel the voice So then with my hatred from them being shut down And the pure anger
Starting point is 00:13:59 I guess I made I-H-E Just to get... And honestly, the happiest moment of my life Was when one of the spill members Reply to me on Twitter And I could finally say Thank you to them But what great moment that was
Starting point is 00:14:14 I was genuinely I was like so happy on that day Man But yeah, point is Xbox Live trolling. X-O-Sloving, which we both did, quite badly, we both were trolls. So we used this opportunity earlier with someone actually, because normally people don't respond to messages, they just ignore it.
Starting point is 00:14:33 They realize that there are much better things to be doing with your time than just trolling people, but nowadays people don't apply unless they're like the wheelie. Bottom bottom va-oombeders, yeah. So he said scrub, to which I replied, tell that to your mom. I thought, I assumed he was American for some reason, so I spelt mum as M-O-M-M. He did have quite a Scottish name. Let's be will. Well, I was about to read his name, but I don't want to like fucking docks in my accident.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Oops, sorry, Lee. To which he replied, are you 12? A mum joke. Get the fuck out. And then a bunch of emojis. Oh, and he called me kid as well, that's important. Oh, the kid. You kind of, whoever calls the other one a kid first sort of wins, because you can't, you can't come back from being called a kid, because they'll be, they can always just retort with, you're all right, kid, child, it's, so that, that, that, that hit me, so it's like, right.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You got red mist, Alex, you're just like, oh, so then I replied with, well, I went for her at the club, she's easy, in reference to, of course, his mum, which I talked about. before. I like going for the lowest as in the lowest possible sort of retort. No one makes like mother jokes anymore like seriously. That's it. That is it. So then of course
Starting point is 00:16:03 he says at the club about 20 laughing emojis never been to a club in your life he was a bit right about that. To be fair I haven't either and I think that's a good thing but get headaches. I replied with
Starting point is 00:16:18 well uh it might be worth asking who your real dad is just saying to which he replied with okay kid yeah he went back on the kid thing he did see it's a great fallback so a bit of advice for anyone out there you want to troll you know use the kids you want to be a good a good if you want to shut down trolls or be a good troll just you know call them young or a kid or something like that that puts them down and you can't come back from it but I responded with destroyed
Starting point is 00:16:49 question mark sorry no destroyed full stop question mark would be very different and he just he just kept biting I don't know why
Starting point is 00:16:56 he kept replying yeah like to me this is so obvious that it's just a goober being a goober yeah
Starting point is 00:17:03 but he said yeah destroyed kid you're spitting out mum jokes simmer down simmer down that is
Starting point is 00:17:11 oh simmer down then he said he pisses me off no joke because it is so like I'm so fucking bigger than you, better than you.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Mm-hmm. It's like... Well, of course, when he says things like this, I picture him being... A bit of a laddie kind of gets out, has a strong bow, you know. Ripped as well. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Could crush me. Estella. Yeah, wife beat her. He has a wife beat. That's what I think when people say simmer down. It's like, thanks. We finished his sentence with, didn't have much to say when I invited you to the party, though,
Starting point is 00:17:44 question mark, in reference to Xbox Live parties, because I guess he did send an invite when you were playing or something. Yeah, he did because we were actually playing and he was in the squad. Just even before we had the argument, it was just, no, I'm not joining me
Starting point is 00:17:58 a fucking one and I replied with, I've got invives off actually, too popular. And not T-O. Popular is the number two, and then popular. I wanted to reinforce that I was like a child.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He says, Why lie? Clearly getting notifications now. when we literally had it up non-stop just the chat just up it's nearly done he said
Starting point is 00:18:25 no I said your mum does make the best meatloaf though yummy like what kid would say that what kid would like how can you not know that a kid would not say that yeah because he took it seriously as if I was still trying to go in
Starting point is 00:18:41 yeah to which he said that's it try and deflect your pain deflect it would deflect the rest of saying that your mum makes good meatloak. You're painfully cringy, man. Painfully cringy. And then I said, listen, you imp.
Starting point is 00:18:55 You called me a scrub. Get real. Noob. And then he replied with, yeah, imp is much better. Three laugh, crying emojis, then two of the guy with his hand, you know, like Patrick,
Starting point is 00:19:10 Star Trek man. Yes. Can't remember his name for some reason. Jog on back to class kid. so definitely English based on this English use of language and his name I suppose
Starting point is 00:19:21 to which I replied with Go back to watching WWE Minger Because his game His profile picture looked like a wing Like a boxing WWE wing It was a UFC one
Starting point is 00:19:34 MMA one Ooh that was the best one Calling him a minger Sorry In English, Frank. Who the F watches WWE? Two laugh crying emojis. He really liked using that.
Starting point is 00:19:54 All about UFC, you bum. To which I replied, Just because you play Apex, it doesn't mean you're an actual fighter. Loll. And then he went in on my spelling of, because every time I was saying the word you're, I was spelling it, Y, O, you are.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So he corrected me and said, you are illiterate kids these days No, but he said that But He fucked that off as well He was pretty dumb Then I said
Starting point is 00:20:22 Older than you, bub I got a mortgage Wouldn't think With all the mum jokes You probably Still stay with yours And then you said Sure you do buddy
Starting point is 00:20:34 A super special mortgage And I said I was trying to end it now Because I was getting fed up Would we need to film a car I probably would reply to him for just hours if not I said that's it you're mean low blow man I was going to invite you round but nah
Starting point is 00:20:53 and then he said I will he said what's the password to your fort out of nowhere which I think was a joke implying that still staying with the child angle but if I was going to invite him around it would be to play in a fort or something in that the fort would require a password. Quite a few levels to that, that, you know, whatever he said. So, and so then I said, my fortnight password.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And he said, no, you're pretend fort. And then I was like, I don't know what to say anymore. So I just said, mm, your mum is so yummy, question mark. Then he said yawn, ending it with me finally saying, have fun, Lee, game on. emoji the old old school mojis so that's the that's the troll story for you really really bad it was a really bad story but it was really funny at the time because I thought it was a great story minga we're old school we're old school
Starting point is 00:21:56 trollers you know we're real we're like we're old school trollers yeah we are we are old school trollers like what's if I had to put this in a gaming analogy Okay. Like, you know in the Lord of Wings games, where they level up. We're like the highest, we're like the general now. In the Lord of the Rings games, Shadow of War. Oh, okay. Yeah, oh my God, my cool gaming analogy and you couldn't get it.
Starting point is 00:22:30 No, because there are quite a few Lord of the Rings games. Only two that are good. Well, okay. Lego Lord of the Rings? That doesn't count because that's Lego. That's for kids. But wait, explain your analogy. level up in Shadow of Mordor?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, no, when the enemies level up, if you don't kill them and they like kill you, they level up, don't they? Oh, with the nemesis system. Yeah. Okay, that is a deep cut gamer reference right there. Oh, actually, probably cringed half of the audience. They're going to leave comments calling us kids. And we can just call them mingers. That's such an English thing and I've never heard it.
Starting point is 00:23:10 You said you've heard it here, but I've never heard it. heard it in our air. I swear I learnt the word minger from living in Wiltshire. I've never, I've... I don't think I've been called minger. I don't think I've been called a minger before, but I remember hearing someone say it and thinking, gosh, that's a very odd word. Well, let's be real, if you want to be more precise of that, you'd hear it in school by boys calling girls mingers. That's like how it was like used, wasn't it? Should I see what the urban dictionary definition of minger is? Yeah. Because it might be actually really offensive in like
Starting point is 00:23:42 you know it's intended use you might be minga you spell m-I-N-G-E-R minga oh you're such a okay so I didn't even have to go on urban dictionary um
Starting point is 00:23:56 Google has a result yeah and what's the result from Google minger minger you're a minger um an unattractive or unpleasant person or thing informal derogatory
Starting point is 00:24:12 so yeah it's quite versatile then really minger urban dictionary reckons it's a male or female who fell out of the ugly tree at birth and hit every branch on the way down yeah it's not to do of being unpleasant
Starting point is 00:24:27 it's just literally it's used for like you're not attractive and to be fair if you're generally calling someone a minger because they're not they might not be as good looking as you're you're not very nice are you you call you you're a true minger if you say that if you say minger yeah
Starting point is 00:24:41 if you say minger and you really mean it you're you're like if in a stressful combative situation the word you go to is minger and you are a minger I'm afraid that's just how it goes and no but if you think think back to all the people in the article who said minger
Starting point is 00:25:00 I thought you didn't hear it ever I heard it quite a lot I know I just contradicted myself but so you did hear it then yeah the people used mingers were you know you know what type of people they were mingers and you know where they've ended actual mingers yeah because you know they might have called someone you know a minger in a day when they don't have a job and they've got like two kids it's like minger I learned the C word in year seven the C word being
Starting point is 00:25:34 cunt you see you next Tuesday yeah see you next Tuesday see you next Tuesday is the way that everyone tried to get around saying it. Well, because in year seven, the C word was like, that's hardcore. Yeah. No one can say that. You'll get in so much trouble if anyone hears you say that. But I remember hearing,
Starting point is 00:25:54 it was in maths. Someone called Joe through a chair at Amy in maths. No, sorry not a chair, it was the bin. So rubbish went everywhere. Even worse. What's worse to show at a bin? um it didn't it didn't go anywhere near her but she was the type where she would like pretend that she's really like distressed by it oh god i'm just like yeah i think it got me on the art um but he he called the teacher a a cunt for some reason
Starting point is 00:26:25 i didn't hear it quite properly and of course if you don't know what the word was i thought he said aunt or mont or like i thought he just said unt and it was like an insult i'd never heard before You aunt. So then flash back to, I was flash forward to going on some family holiday where my older cousins were there. And somehow the conversation turned to swear words or something. And I was like, yeah, I heard a pretty bad swear word the other day. And they're like, oh, what is it? Whisper it into my ear.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And I whispered, aunt into his ear. But from the way I whispered it, he must have, it must have just twigged that it was cunt. So he didn't, he wasn't like, what, what's an aunt? He just, as soon as you hear an aunt, you just know, you know, it's, you just instantly, you know, it's kind of. And I must say, it's a really horrible word. I hate it. If you, mm-hmm. Yeah, if you're using it to actually attack someone, it's a very, very unpleasant word.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I mean, I think it's more unpleasant when people don't use it for that. But you use it all the time. What? I don't use it all the time. Like, no, when do I ever use that? word the main reason it became a part of my vocabulary was because of you that's that that's assigning a lot of blame one to me you can have to explain this because I'm trying to feel really bad okay I did use it a lot during my early years I kind of did
Starting point is 00:27:53 say it a lot no because it's it was the um the Facebook group that's why because I I remember going through that and I I would always use it to like to insult you specifically which is like that's it I've got to call Alex a cunt yeah
Starting point is 00:28:10 but it's like it's a horrible word and I hate it and I try not to use it because of it the the female angle yeah for being quite
Starting point is 00:28:21 yeah that's like when it's used in that kind of way I find it even more disgusting so it's just like that's really whole ugh
Starting point is 00:28:30 when you actually go through insults and you realize actually quite a lot of them are are based around putting down women it's so it's a bit terrible I only like use cunt seriously if I'm really really angry I've said it in front of my parents
Starting point is 00:28:50 which is really bad really bad and I hate it but I just got really angry and I was just like really like this person being a cunt and I hate it the one of the worst things anyone can do I think is just swear swear we're so used to swearing now and it's really not that good. You think it's the worst thing someone can do? No, it's in like, to have it a part of your everyday life where everything has got to be swearing in it. Like, I was in a restaurant yesterday, my other friends
Starting point is 00:29:18 and he was like, my friend was like having a swear in every sentence in like a family restaurant and it's just like, stop. Yeah, context does matter with swearing, I reckon. I swear too much and it's a really bad habit so I need someone to be like, James, stop swearing, come on. Because I need to be influenced in that way. Well, on that now, we'll be back after these fucking
Starting point is 00:29:36 messages. You can't. Right, so before we move on to the questions from the jarlings, I was sorting out my emails today. That's probably the most
Starting point is 00:29:51 adult sentence I've ever said out loud. I was sorting out my inbox the other day. Well, how many emails do you have in your inbox? Oh, countless. Because every YouTube channel I'm associated with has their own inbox. and they're in, like, email, so it's just like, forget about it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You know, do you know, I'm going to sound really adult here. Dealing with queries in your inbox is like the most enjoyable thing you can ever do in a job. It's when you've got to deal with people. Enjoyable? I love queries, yeah. It's like when someone's like, I'm not paying this because of this, and you're just like, hold up. And then you have to do 15 million years off of just getting information, and you put it in email, and then they're like, no, fuck off, I'm not paying it.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I love it. Literally go to work, I'm just like, is there any queries because I just want to deal with them. Maybe it's just a problem with English voices, because I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Are you being serious? I'm being serious. You just described, like, the worst scenario ever. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:56 That's not what normally happens in my job, but I still like doing that for some reason. I just like dealing with, like, queries. Sometimes simple data entry and stuff. The simple stuff. I like dealing with like the hardcore stuff. Okay, you do you, man. See, I've got the managerial
Starting point is 00:31:14 fucking mindset. I like dealing with the problems. You're, in a way, you're addicted to queries. Not a fan of any substance. You're a fan of the vague idea of a query. That's what gets you. That's what gets you going.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But I was going through my emails anyway. And I found an email from 2011. Okay, that's... How the hell did you find that? Eight years ago.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Because I've been using the same email for a long time, so it's got... I use Alex's email if I need to sign up for Wi-Fi at random places. I always use your email. Do you actually? That's why I get so much like garbage then. Yeah, that's me. It's all me. It's like, I mean, the dentist, I need to use to Wi-Fi. Sign up as Alex.
Starting point is 00:31:58 He's all of Alex's information. Guess what this email from the 14th of December 2011 was two? no idea I have no idea it was to you I emailed you on the 14th of December
Starting point is 00:32:13 2011 and can you guess what it said and what it was you email there's two words and a picture oh god
Starting point is 00:32:25 it'll probably be fuck off no too obvious no it just said totally legit with a picture of
Starting point is 00:32:36 a dick and a poorly drawn cartoon character eating the dick's sperm let me see let me see if I remember I'll put it on screen now yes I remember that I remember that because we've actually both used the same
Starting point is 00:32:54 email address for years what was the email just there I'm not going to say my email address is it HK it might be must be it has your name on it so do you want to want to play a game let's um let's go through my emails and see if i can find the same email because there's this like really badly written texts at the bottom can you tell what that
Starting point is 00:33:15 says is that supposed to just say way yes that says away does it yeah i mean okay the thing of my email just says i don't actually know how to search inbox do you not just use gmail there's a big you know magnifying glass normally you can press i know because i'm using the outlook app i like oh no not that what do you mean not that Oh no, I found it. It's right of the one. What's... We'll just search...
Starting point is 00:33:41 I don't know. Search my email. My current email. And you'll find something of note. I do actually. Do you actually? You have something? What is it?
Starting point is 00:33:55 It just says shit and you sent me the fucking dark night. Why is this fucking logo? It says shit and I sent you the dot on the room. The email literally is titled shit. And you just sent me a picture of the dark night. Dark Night Rises. Wow. I've actually got...
Starting point is 00:34:08 Maybe that was a message to my current self because back then I was so hyped and over the moon about that movie. Oh no, you replied saying... No, that was me. I sent you that email. You sent me an email saying shit with the Dark Night Rises poster.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah. In when, what? 2011? 2012. 2012? Yeah, 2011's too early. We literally had a conversation. on emails to some reason and then I've got I've got emails from the post oh god oh no
Starting point is 00:34:45 find the oldest one before we move on well why 20 why you're looking why did you your face just went so because you sent a link of some some deviant art stuff really yeah and I'm just I just I don't know what was in the was it something I drew or was it something embarrassing something you sent that's embarrassing so It wouldn't load those, so it's fine. But fuck me, I didn't know actually had... How'd you know it was embarrassing, then? Because I recognised the name of one of the people
Starting point is 00:35:13 used to, like... Was it the Halo guy? No, it wasn't the Halo guy. It was someone else. Because you used to... The troll phase also was a deviant art troll phase as well when that was like... Of course, deviant art was massively involved. Because I was always drawing all the time.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And you just spend your time trying to troll really bad artists on Deviant Art. Yeah. Anyway... Weren't we mingers? In a way, yeah. Our personalities were quite mingery. Now, now we're like...
Starting point is 00:35:45 The opposite mingers. We're both beautiful butterflies. Let's ask the people out there in the jarmy. What? What they think? Are we mingers? You've lined yourself up for that one. If I'm not a minger, say in the comments that I am a minger.
Starting point is 00:36:09 There we go. Impenetrable. If Alex isn't a minger, say in the comments he is a minger. Yeah. No, I've got that the wrong way. Yeah, that's exactly what I want. If Alex is a minger, tell him in the comments he isn't a minger. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 That's the one I wanted. Okay, I win either way. Because I'll just read a comment saying, you're not a minger. And that means you are Minger? Nah. Yeah. Anyway, this is the part of the show where we answer questions from the JAR community. If you want to leave your own questions for us to answer,
Starting point is 00:36:44 head over to the JAR Media Reddit, and there is a suggestion thread. At the top. At the freaking top, yo. I bet it's confusing to you, though. It's kind of confusing at first, but I understand it now. Maybe El Fart Hard. Maybe I'll Fart Hard. That's his name.
Starting point is 00:37:04 says... Did it really take you that long to... It was a capital I and two under case L so it looked like three eyes. What are your best tips for dealing with anxiety slash general anxious feelings?
Starting point is 00:37:23 What do you all personally do to help you feel less anxious? Okay, okay, okay. This is one that I can answer. Just bring the mood down a little bit. well yeah it's perfect for yeah well to me there's like
Starting point is 00:37:39 you know there's different ways you get anxious there's like there's like you know anxiety and the stuff we've talked about before and that stuff but then there's like there's times when you've got to do something anxious about like doing a speech
Starting point is 00:37:51 or something like that for me they're like two separate forms of anxiety they are different because one is rational and one isn't yeah sort of with the rational with which ones about I would say that being scared and anxious about
Starting point is 00:38:08 you know doing some kind of public speaking thing is maybe not rational in the sense that you're not actually going to necessarily you know be put in any danger or harm or anything like that but it can be a stressful worrying experience for that one um I can't in for that type of stuff I cannot calm myself at all
Starting point is 00:38:32 like I'm that like focused on that event I've got to do that I just there's no way to get myself out of it besides doing it as soon as you do it it's like that's when you calm down and that's when it'll go fine yeah it's just the you know the other one which is the other type of anxiety the other group would be something along the lines of I'll use an example I might have where I have this weird thing about phone calls where I hate
Starting point is 00:39:06 calling people no no I have the same my I actually cannot stand when I'm in a phone call I can you know I can perform it's like you're from like babe stage or something you've got to perform
Starting point is 00:39:23 that phone that's what it what it must feel like I'm sure but yeah but there's nothing rational about that there really is absolutely nothing it's just a
Starting point is 00:39:35 a quirk yeah for that type of stuff my whole like way to stop it is to literally listen to music mainly because if I'm in that mindset I'm being so rational and we're getting all into this state it's like if I put a music on I'm at least taking my mind away from it
Starting point is 00:39:51 and I just calm down over time you know I had that this week on Monday I had it really bad when I was just sitting at work feeling like terrible I just put some music on, cleared my mind and it was fine. So that was with an irrational sort of anxious
Starting point is 00:40:07 burst. So I just put up music on to music like, do you and that stuff, it's normally like a Kendrick-Klamar song or 9-inch Nels. Like, it's got to touch that really edgy kind of thing. That's how... That's interesting. We're going to go and start more later, though. I like listening to music in a similar way, but I prefer calm, relaxing
Starting point is 00:40:25 type sounds as opposed to aggressive... See? I'm going against the machine. In type stuff. See, with calm music, I like calm music when I'm naturally calm anyway. Like, calm music won't calm me. If I'm in a state, I need to have something that's going to make the blood pump, like, in the opposite direction to be like, to get you more focused?
Starting point is 00:40:44 That's how I normally go through it. So, like, nine inch an hour is just a lot of listening to her stuff and I'm in a really bad mood. Because it's just like, you become, like, more positive on it. That's my way. But obviously, there's loads of other ways to deal with anxiety, you know. sometimes just sleeping is what I've done before which isn't the best some people but you have to find what you
Starting point is 00:41:07 works for you really because sometimes music might not work for some people but I do actually have an album to recommend to those who might want to try listening to something to calm them down perhaps or maybe change their mindset or something it's called weightless ambient transmission volume 2
Starting point is 00:41:27 by Marconi Union especially the first song on that album is very very good I think that even if you don't need it and you heard that song you'd be like yeah that's that's calming that's relaxing so that that's help me in the only advice I'd give is to not use
Starting point is 00:41:49 something that becomes addictive but if you're anxious don't do something that's going to negatively affect you don't drink alcohol or alcohol drugs whatever speed you know just don't ever do Something like that, because that's only going to make you roast online. Yeah. But that's kind of anything. You can sort of get addicted to any type thing, can't you?
Starting point is 00:42:08 So it's always best to try and sort it out yourself. Yeah. I remember the last time I was like sickeningly anxious to the point of like barely being able to function was the day before my driving exam. I couldn't actually handle how how horrible I felt the night before driving exam was a very good one because even I was the like in the morning was just like shaking and like
Starting point is 00:42:39 yeah kind of the same way I would if I'd do like a public speech yeah is that kind of thing it's just like you've got to just do it you've just got as soon as it's done it's fine as as with most sort of anxiety related ailments it's all about the anticipation of something
Starting point is 00:42:57 It's always the anticipation, yeah. Because once I was in the exam and actually driving, it was like, oh, I'm just driving a car, and I'm just doing the same things I've been doing for the past. Anyway, so, yeah. And I found nothing was really helping for that. I can't fix that at all. I've tried, like, shaking breaths, but no, my heart's like, no, this is... Until you've got past the first bit, it's like, it's not...
Starting point is 00:43:22 I did a lot of pacing that night, I remember. I tried to distract myself. Whenever I'm anxious, I always pace. I always pace. It's like the only way to cope with it. Yeah. But on the plus side, as long as you haven't like murdered someone
Starting point is 00:43:42 or you're a drug dealer that's about to be caught and you're feeling that kind of immense, anxious feeling. A lot of the time using this, driving exam one as an example afterwards you feel that was actually fine that was okay now because of that I've learned something and I'm better
Starting point is 00:44:08 because of it the thing I whenever you get that after feeling I'm always like I always think I'm really stupid for getting anxious in the first place it's always that wasn't so bad it's just like fake brain but yeah a lot of the time if you're
Starting point is 00:44:24 forcing yourself out of your comfort zone in some way or another you're at the very least improving something about yourself yeah you're sure it's just the way you handle things even if things do go badly and you know you haven't broken one of the
Starting point is 00:44:41 laws of the land one of the laws of the land then you'll be fine you just gotta I think it's something that will improve as you get old and you do more of it it's like you just yeah I feel like I'm right on the cusp now of
Starting point is 00:44:57 starting to really not give a shit about what anyone thinks about me because when I was I guess it really starts sort of in secondary school where you start being like in your little shell or whatever
Starting point is 00:45:13 and you just you you really care about what other people think about the things you like and the way you look and everything like that and gradually as you get older you gradually realize it's like a sort of survival instinctive to not make other groups.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It's like, yeah, must fit in, must not stand out, so I'm not bullied or whatever. So I can't be picked on for anything. It's the thought process there. Because I remember, I think I mentioned it before, but just being just like embarrassed of the music I was listening to. I was how deep of everything. I was embarrassed to like showing my legs, you know. Yeah, that kind of thing is very, it's just normal for that kind of age. and depending how extreme it was
Starting point is 00:45:57 when that stuff did set in the more extreme it is the more time it probably takes to get over it as you get older I mean neither of us are particularly old still we're both yeah we're still young
Starting point is 00:46:10 in a 20s so I mean it's taking this time but there was like a point where it just kind of clicked where it was just like I've been so ridiculous that I don't care anymore I'm just going to not give so you naturally
Starting point is 00:46:24 it takes time to get to there though it gets to a point where it's like yeah and it's always going to approve as you get out of school because you know in the world world people aren't going to really care if you like listen to music no exactly yeah now we're we're at a point where we can you know rationally sit down and say so what if you don't like the the song from fantasy 13 that I'm listening to yeah so I had a funny thing of that I was in it's like on the weekends I cleaned my car and because it's like my garage it's like a shared community one so it's like like full garages on one side fall on the other and we've got ours there so our cars apart there and I circling my car so I have the
Starting point is 00:47:05 garage room so I put music on and this day I was just feeling like 80s Japanese city pop music like so I put it on and then my neighbor comes out and it's just like I was I was washing my car so if I went back it'd be really obvious I was just like I got to stick it out and it was like the most reaboo song in the world and I was just like don't care do you remember what it was called. I can't remember what it was called but it was just like that's a very changed story. But then it's like the next one I don't know the next one's going to be so if they're out ages it could just be even 10 times apart but it was just like
Starting point is 00:47:35 do you not wear headphones? No because it's going through a speaker system because that's like the the garage vibe is true yeah yeah true. And I don't even care about that anymore like that's funny yeah you know in the summer if I've got my window sound I'm probably going to be playing some like Japanese music I just it doesn't matter And it just takes time to get that, but... Yeah, I still like drawing as little attention to myself as possible.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Which is ironic, considering, you know, putting videos out for thousands of people to watch and whatever, but... I'm kind of the same, but then you think everyone in my town knows me, because my car. It's like... They know your car, then. They know my car. So... It's that kind of thing. Yeah, I don't know if I have any other tips or if we've missed anything major.
Starting point is 00:48:28 There was a good reply from Poo Fart 99. The person you want to be replying to a consequence of that anxiety, Poo Fart. Very jar. You have to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. My tip would be to surround yourself with the people you love most in any way, shape or form. Perhaps the jar crew can be those people. Yeah, surround yourself with the man who used to try Jemboards and the... Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Me. Because it's kind of given me this wise aura about me now. I've seen things. Do you think you're wise? Me, no. If you're... I don't think anyone in their 20s can be wise. I'm definitely wise.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And if they think they're wise, they're not. No, I've been called wise before. I don't know. Maybe it's because I don't give advice as stupid. I'm actually like, I can give advice. like that's a bit stupid maybe you shouldn't do that i think people think wise nowadays is like not being done so yeah sort of is in a way having wisdom knowledge but i think what is wisdom what is it it's just kind of being around for long enough to the point where you can
Starting point is 00:49:44 learn from experience you can at least sound like you know what you're talking about but surely Like owls, owls are wise It's just an experience thing It's stageism Sort of But like You can You can safely trust
Starting point is 00:50:04 That a 70 year old woman Probably Based on just the sheer amount of time That they've existed That they have experienced more things And kind of know a bit more than a 13 year old Exactly Who's only had 13 years on the planet
Starting point is 00:50:20 So if you want to go ask on for good whiskey, you don't ask me, you ask someone he's old, basically, is what you're saying. Yeah, chances are, if I was in a shop and I saw two people working there, one was you and one was like an old man, and I wanted to know which whiskey would have this and that, I'd probably go to the old man. And then I just tell you, like, whiskey wisdom. Yeah, yeah. Which I don't have, to be fair, even though I'll drink it.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Tote's Retar, to be honest, asks, well, nibble. Grinch is already the best meme of 2019 what are your guys opinions on Tyler the creator himself you familiar with Tyler I'm I'm familiar of his really weird videos you post on Twitter of like BMXing while wearing like a massive like swan costume and like going mountain biking and crashing and just being like that's all I'm aware of him I've never listened to his music I just think he's quite funny on Twitter he's a bit
Starting point is 00:51:23 bizarre but it's music I never listen to it so I don't really know really yeah seems that kind of thing you like
Starting point is 00:51:29 I don't know yeah it probably is the type of the whole I like but I just haven't listened to it um
Starting point is 00:51:35 yeah I'm not really I'm quite unfamiliar it's not really my thing I've heard a fair a few of his songs I haven't disliked them
Starting point is 00:51:44 um I've never sat down and listened to a full album there maybe I'll give it a try one day I've just not a music person His Grinch song was excellent though
Starting point is 00:51:56 Magpie Lark asks How do you avoid burning out Creatively or otherwise Burning out You ever burn out on like Don't want to work on your car anymore You don't want to
Starting point is 00:52:15 You know Do invoices And that kind of thing I've burnt out quite a few times I've burned out burning out is normal everyone burns out like jar hasn't
Starting point is 00:52:26 Has jar burned out Would you say we burned out There are points Yeah where you're like It's um Actually no I burn out with jar I burn out with jar before Because it was a period
Starting point is 00:52:38 When I just didn't I didn't show up And I was kind of just like I'm done with jar Mm-hmm I've burned out with being friends of you Like every other week It's just like fuck jar
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's like the swings and roundabouts thing where if you if you haven't what's the term again you're trying to think aren't you burning out if you haven't burnt out yet and you've been doing something for a long time you're either very lucky
Starting point is 00:53:09 or it's coming soon especially when you're doing I don't know I can only speak from my experience with the things I've done but I've burnt out plenty of times when making videos for like IHG
Starting point is 00:53:26 it can be maddening sometimes because it's just like it's such a strange thing to kind of explain within your own mind of like you're just making these videos for these numbers
Starting point is 00:53:41 it's very odd I think with like your hobbies everything like that you just burn out at some point it doesn't mean you're done with it for good but what it does mean is that you need a break or a holiday or something if you probably the best advice to avoid burning out would be to to be okay with letting things sit for a little bit having a break having a rest
Starting point is 00:54:07 yeah that's what I've found you know with doing car stuff it's like if I if I just ingest soda car stuff all the time I just burn out and I don't want to do anything but now I haven't done anything to my car in so long it's just like it's just on the back burner I'm still passionate as hell about it but it's just there yeah it's the same with gaming you just I've burned out on gaming to a point where I don't want to touch games like for months I don't and then I come back and I burn out on games all the time yeah like I've mentioned it loads of times on the car's before but it was around I guess 2015 when like fallout four and Halo 5 came out I was just like I'm done with this
Starting point is 00:54:41 shit for a while then I came back with Mario Odyssey was like, yeah. Yeah. The time is nigh. You just got to be like, okay, you just have to take breaks and then just come back when you, when you've got it back, I guess. Motto fears you, says, do any of you still have access to R&L games? If so, do you really, do you think you can make the videos public again?
Starting point is 00:55:06 I really want to see Moon Man lives in a bin. What, R&L wasn't... Moon Man wasn't R&L. Moon Man, that's Man. Moon Man, War of Man. The great secret is Man Man, Boar Boy Man has tens of
Starting point is 00:55:21 privated videos on it, I think. Yeah. That's where the Minecraft one is, I think, and that's where the you know, whatever that one is. Every video we've made, besides the lost Mears Edge 2 video called Doddstep Parkour, that's dead, but the rest is the one there, they're just...
Starting point is 00:55:42 So to answer the question, yes, I can still log into R&L games, that's how I've made videos on their life before. Yeah. There are a couple on there. I remember, I think we did like a cooking mama in real life video. Yes. Which, I mean, isn't that bad. I'm not ashamed of that one.
Starting point is 00:56:00 It's okay. And there's that really weird one where we were starting to go mad with sound effects and things with... It was like, oh, there was like a Batman video. I don't remember the Batman video. Yeah, you were killer crock in it, remember? You had that crocodile toy in your shirt with the head sticking out. Oh my God, yeah, I remember. I forgot that video, like, completely.
Starting point is 00:56:23 There's all sorts of, like, weird stuff on there that... Yeah, maybe one day you'll deserve it. You'll get to a point when we're, like, 29, we're just like, we don't care. Upload these videos and boom. The internet, we're going to end up on a pyrocynical son's YouTube channel. Pyrocynical Sun. Those videos would have been in the commentary community like rounds, so clear, obvious. Except, yeah, they would have been the same age at the time, so it would have been kind of rich.
Starting point is 00:56:55 We went through our cringy stage when we were 14 and not 20, like 21. Yeah, it was kind of lucky it was before the commentator channels kind of cropped up, but whatever. Once again, Jarmid you ahead of the times. Yeah, because now Madagascar's being memed everywhere. Jesus, man. Motto-motis. We're savantes. Motto-Moto, King Julian.
Starting point is 00:57:19 We're the big boys, we are. We are the big boys. Hmm. Auntie Cholos Asian Queen asks, At the time of posting this, tomorrow will be the one-year anniversary of the beloved episode 50. How do you look back on what might be your greatest masterpiece? And when do we do episode 50?
Starting point is 00:57:39 And where we ever get episode 100 and 150? When do we do episode 50? When do we do episode 50? Um Because I only have Like one relation for that idea Do they mean episode 100?
Starting point is 00:57:55 There was episode 150, yes The Minecraft one Where we did the Yeah The cover of that You know the music video That is a great video I went back and watched it semi recently
Starting point is 00:58:07 And it's like Yeah That's funny as fuck so no no what to the question what was the question I was just think about the the great great video well how do you look back on and will we ever get episode 100 and I look back on it and I'm just like yeah that was good it's the Twitter banner on the jar media things wearing dumbass hats yeah so with the Small amount of time we have left,
Starting point is 00:58:46 we might be able to fix this one in from Mr. Duwang Man, who says, Have you boys ever watched Evangelion? I know it's an old jar meme and that Eva is shit, but I've seen it recently and like to know what they think of it. I'm in 30 seconds, summarize Evangeline. I actually asked you if we should make it,
Starting point is 00:59:06 is it as good as I say? Evangelion. Honestly, I can remember nothing about it apart from lots of cricket noises. cicada cicadas it's just like you better go read the Bible if you want to have any understanding of this show but
Starting point is 00:59:28 Alex we can talk about Evangelion forever and I don't think we've got enough time we can talk about it briefly now if you want but honestly I can't really remember anything all I remember is being like recommended it by someone me and being like
Starting point is 00:59:45 oh cool massive robots the idea of these guys fighting is pretty cool and then watching it and it's just not being that at all Evangelion I'm going to say it massively overrated and not good
Starting point is 01:00:01 it's not good is it not supposed to be some kind of parody or satire of you know that done to death like massive robots fighting each other thing was it supposed to be a more introverted look at the people that drive the robots?
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, it was all about what the robots I guess that they do to the people who drive them. But the problem with that show is it's not enjoyable to watch. Like people criticise games for like certain things. Evangelion, it's only frustration
Starting point is 01:00:32 because nothing happens. There's not a single thing that happens in that show. I remember it being very slow for most of the episodes and then like a character becomes giant Or something? Maybe this is in the movie.
Starting point is 01:00:45 That's in the movie. That's when Wade becomes a fucking... Like a god. She becomes like a god or... I don't know. It goes very... Yeah, it goes pretty crazy. And to preface, again,
Starting point is 01:00:58 I must have... I must have watched this when I was... I don't know. 17 and 18? I'm just straight, I said, I didn't finish it. I got to the 24th or 23rd episode and was just like, I'm so frustrated of watching this. I'm so bored I'm not going to anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Yeah, so maybe we were too young, I don't know. No, but you watch it now and you still get frustrated. Like, it's all about the characters and the, like, the mental health they have, but it's just like... Well, my biggest issue was I didn't care or like any of the characters. No, all of the characters are unlikable. Yeah? It's like, there's just, there's so many videos out there of the whole, you know, how deep it is. If you have to, you know, do all this deep research and find all this stuff to have enjoyment of the show, it's not very good.
Starting point is 01:01:40 That show does not give you anything besides deep meaningful stuff. meaningful. That doesn't mean anything. It's sort of, I remember it kind of lacking a hook. There's no hook for me. There's literally no reason to keep watching. The hook, like, is, on paper, is that there are giant robots fighting aliens. The hook is like, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:57 what is building up to, what these angels are and all these type of stuff. What is, you know, why it's so weird, but it doesn't deliver it in any type of satisfying way. It's just, it's still delivers it in this really weird, kind of complex, like, deep, deep meaning kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah, I might like it a lot if I greened out and watched it You probably would The thing is I like Some of the stuff in it is quite cool The mechs are quite cool Like the geofund of the city under like the earth It's cool The design in the world was cool
Starting point is 01:02:29 But it's got nothing else You could kind of clearly see the filler stuff And the presentation I guess for me Was what kind of drove me the most crazy The actual animation in the episodes was quite bare. It was a lot of just like panning and, you know, very simplistic just mouth movements and stuff. And all the actual animation was sort of backloaded into a couple of the like robot fights,
Starting point is 01:02:55 which were cool with the like angels. Yeah. But really, nothing's really stuck in my memory from it. So, and I don't really have the, you don't, the want to go back and see it. But maybe if it does, it's supposed to be coming to Netflix, isn't it? so I might give it a chance. What I find about it is like I'm trying to think of what I wanted to say
Starting point is 01:03:18 but I was too busy listening to you. Anime? Robots. Ainamiri? I think people think it's really good and people see it through rose-tinted glasses because it's like the most legendary anime in the world.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Is it the most... Is it more legendary than like Cowboy Bibop? Yes. Cowboy Bebop is actually good but Evangelion is this whole like so deep, it's so complex type thing when it's not so people see it and they're like
Starting point is 01:03:50 oh I notice this Is it that classic thing of I don't really understand what's happening so I'm just going to assume that it's quite clever Yeah That is basically it Because there's nothing clever
Starting point is 01:03:59 about that show Like you can have shows that have this kind of deeper meaning that can be satisfying and rewarding Because I've seen those type of shows Evangelion does not do that There's nothing...
Starting point is 01:04:11 People won't want to admit the only reason that Evangelion became famous to the point where we know about it is because of Wafus. Fucking, the two main characters is, that's all it is. It's just because, oh, we can sell
Starting point is 01:04:23 merchandise of Asuka and Wei. That's it. That's the only reason why it's become legendary. I remember the main character crying quite a lot. Yeah. And being quite upset. Yeah. Yeah. And he had his anime dad
Starting point is 01:04:37 that had those reflective glasses. Yeah, I... What's the pose? I can't remember what the poses. He does the pose. It's a famous pose. Oh. He's sitting on the desk.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I can't remember it. I foresee lots of angry comments. Do you know, the last episode, I was actually, or the, you know, so many last episodes, it was the entire episode was just in a black woman with a chair. And it was going through like Shinjis, whatever his name is, like mental health. And it was all like, it ended with them all. saying congratulations I didn't I wish I was fucking high because I didn't understand a single thing about it yeah it was just like yeah I don't know I
Starting point is 01:05:19 might like it now but it's fun it's fun and easy to make fun of because you know I'm gonna compare to Ghost and Shell well it's it's about as deep meaningful and just full of nothing ghost and the shell actually looks a tiny bit pretty well I I kind of remember the the Ghost of the Shell movie because I I saw it only a couple years ago or a year ago or something. Like, I'm a big fan. I'm a massive fan of Ghost and Shell, but I would still say the first movie is literally empty.
Starting point is 01:05:47 It's just like deep movement. The first movie was very, very strange. It's artsy. It's all it is, but Evangelion's not artsy. It was nothing. It had the same issues I had, I remember having with even Jelian.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Yeah. Is it Jelian or Gellian? Even Gellian. But I remember once upon a time saying Jellian and it annoying someone. one and I think I kept calling it jelly in because of jelly and jelly's funny so
Starting point is 01:06:13 but yeah Ghost in the Shell was a bit like what's the fucking point of any of that yeah but it's just like the last 30 seconds just like lingering on this painting of like a you know a robot or whatever
Starting point is 01:06:27 it's really good like animated and stuff when they animate it and the last like probably 10 minutes that action scene at the end is really good the animation is really great but besides that Ghost and Shell doesn't really have anything else.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I just have this intrinsic problem with dialogue from shows like that, especially when they're going so, like, metaphysical and shit. It's like, Jesus Christ, man, I need more subtlety to be able to enjoy this. It just doesn't jail with me, bro, but if you enjoy it, whatever. What did you actually think of the live-action ghost and show? The American one. Yeah. It was like the antithesis of the Japanese one in terms of, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:08 of it was bad for like all of the opposite reasons as the original um it was just such a straight down the middle totally inoffensive completely forgettable bunch of schlock i i remember nothing about it at all nothing i i remember watching it i remember there being a scene where she's sort of a little bit fights a tank thing i remember every single thing about that movie I love Gosha Shel, and watching that movie, I was surprised how good it was. It seemed quite faithful to following some kind of story. That movie is just the start of the original Goshen Shell movie, combined with the end of the standalone complex TV series.
Starting point is 01:07:55 The characters they've introduced near Wall standalone, so they basically took two big sources of Goshen Shell, stuck them together and made a movie. But to be fair, the presentation of the live-action movie is great. It looks great. Everything about it is super-acquered to Ghost and Shell. issue but like some of the stuff like
Starting point is 01:08:10 who they um like cast as the actors for the characters they're great like Bato the guy of the eyes I remember thinking he was quite cool he was cool the old like head of the section line
Starting point is 01:08:25 or whatever it might be actual Japanese dude actually in Jets he actually speaks Japanese really cool I think a lot of it was just like visually it's really great but it's just like it's just an action movie yeah it felt like
Starting point is 01:08:38 like it needed someone with more of a um flair or personality to direct it or write it or something because it was quite it was quite bland it left me it left me feeling empty just like
Starting point is 01:08:53 ghost and a shell does because there's nothing really there I just thought that movie is really art scene like looks good and I kind of like that and my parents watched it and they didn't think they were just like oh it's action movie yeah
Starting point is 01:09:08 Whatever. Well, there we are. It's another episode for the books, with a nice little anime bonus discussion at the end. We can talk for anime forever. We should do his initial D as good as they say. I'd happily watch that show. It looks funny as well.
Starting point is 01:09:23 No, but it doesn't. You even want to watch six seasons of it. Oh, Jesus. Because, Alex, past the second season, it's when it just gets really serious and it's not funny. But when things take themselves really seriously, it can sometimes make it funnier. No, but this is, like, serious.
Starting point is 01:09:38 edgy kind of serious like there's a character who's trying to kill the other guy in the car because he's that sounds that does sound hilarious though and then his brakes fail on the
Starting point is 01:09:50 downhill so they joined together to stop his car from crashing and it's just like ooh that sounds amazing thanks for listening or watching we'll see you on the next episode
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