JAR Media Posdact - TreeS

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

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but they're gone now are they all of them dead so now it's our town it's our time it's our time it's our turn to take green day's place Brown day Yeah

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sinus size. Really? Yeah, so I've squirted some of that juice up my nose. Some of the salt. No, I didn't do that sea salt. I didn't do that freak shit. What do you mean? Where you put it at one nutshell and it comes out of the other. That's that's proper. The annettey pot.

That's minging. No, it's bloody lovely. No, that's genuinely minginging. No, I used um, uh, I call it Bacon A's. Why? You know like bacon mayonnaise?

Yeah, I know bacon. Yeah, but it's beconez or something. What is? This, you know, it's just one of these nasal sprays. Up your nose, it's cool. Why has it got bacon in it, though? I don't know. Does it taste good at least? No.

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And welcome The Brocast number 29 Sponsored by Cho Chang I I got to beat that one Or do I Where do I? I don't know.

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Yeah, trust, trust J.K. Rowling to gray the line. That's wild. Geez. Well, I mean, it's out. Alex joined by Jim for another one of these bad boys in your ears on a Monday on your ears eyes only those sensors actually ears eyes you could like go get a diaper from the bin and put it on the table and then you'd have the bloody correct smell am I right is eyes and nose yeah that's all the senses right I always

forget the center how many sensors are there six I thought it was seven seven yeah that alliterates so that's how it's that's how we created all rules is just if it yeah if it rhymes are illiterates if it rhymes yeah so like episode 29 is

sublime uh huh I can't think of any other rules um the rules of the road I saw a car crash in Portugal I'm serious yeah I was sat outside and a restaurant it was crazy it was like out of a movie there was a car like waiting to go

then around the corner this other car just goes like into the side of it it was wild was it was it a little bit disappointing because no one was mangled yeah because it wasn't like I've already seen the mangle there I've seen someone get hit by a car it was horrible oh really yeah that was in Bristol oh yeah Christ there was a lady and she squealed Just like that She was like on the bonnet It's hardcore Wow

Yeah So rules are Don't go to cities or you'll get killed Like me in London I'm surprised I survived this past week Before we get too deep into topics in the show I want to shout out of those Jiam Media patrons Over at the Patreon

They make the audio version of the show possible They get sponsored by Cho Chang I really feel weird about saying this I suppose if JK can do it I can do it too Yeah Unless her name lets her get away with it

JK How did I never consider that JK Rowling? Is it rolling or rowling? I've heard people say both Rowling Rowling rolling J.K. Rolling on a river

J.K. Rolling on a river yeah yeah let's go with that yeah j k if you're ever upset by anything that's just jk yeah jk simmons he's got it as well jesus christ jk wow yeah you know yeah that's not all did i say the audio version possible the raw unfiltered mp3 to patreon ad free did i say that but i did now got you after hours on patreon which uh we changed the past couple weeks We're now actually doing it Jaffda instead of Jafar, which I'm pretty sure you coined, but... I'm still proud of that. Jafar?

Yeah. I just think it should have opened as well with like a song from Aladdin. Like with Jafar's song. How does that go again? I don't know. I've never seen it. I'm a nasty one. Yeah.

I'm an evil one. From a pen to the pin to the pin to the bin to the chin. To the Cho, to the Chang. So, bro, got to stop. That one needs to be changed. Yeah. But that's not all.

There's also the Jal Media Group chat, which is an ongoing chat as people who use social media tend to understand what that means. Kind of speaks to itself in certain ways. Which can get us into the housekeeping segment. We can leave suggestions and comments for the show, whatever, and just rounding off comments and conversations from the last week of all the craziness that's been going on but Gabby of the Boreal Valley

can get us going with this one from the Germany group chat. When will six Sundays on a Monday return? Probably soon because a commenter was like every time Alex travels somewhere he gets ill so I'm just counting the days now. I've been in London

for four or five days. What's? Oh I see. I didn't get ill off or I did get ill actually. I'm in Portugal so. Yeah. That's why six Sundays on a Monday began. Really? I don't know.

Well, I can't, I can't, I'm so... You had COVID one time. One time? You have to beep that as well, don't you? Hmm. We should call it... The scary killer. Well, faping and clapping, it's happening, lapping up the sap, and that I splat on the mat, and the substance is massacre and said, also on the jar group chat. I'd just like to thank you for creating poo slash we slash fart.

I'm a nurse in the NHS and we... and we often bang out to that track in the nursing office. Nurses love poo, because poo is objectively the funniest thing. We often spend hours talking about poo, our own poo and others. We live and breathe, poo. Thoughts on people who don't think pooing and weeing, and I didn't get the rest of it. That's fine. You're not an NHS nurse, you're lying.

That's what I say to that. They go to work every day and they put on poo wee fart and then talk about, up who for hours. It's not true and I'll tell you why because something and this is something that we also might have to bleep out because most people won't know, but since Brexit, hospitals have only been able to staff one nurse per hospital. So, how can you say that other nurses like, you don't know, you've never met one?

Yeah, we're kind of banking on Elon to provide his new robots that are definitely autonomous and not being remotely controlled. controlled by somewhere else by Elon Musk on an iPad Elon Musk clones he clones himself and the clones remotely control all of the that that his clones are just wearing like cyber cyberman outfits on Dr. I'm a robot is that yours that's like Elon Musk and he doesn't even have that would you know how much better that would make him he does have an accent no if he had you know the accent the proper accent yeah um i feel like it would you know it it's kind of quite easily uh an

an evil accent like a villain accent i feel yeah do you know what i mean i hear what you're saying but it's also charming and cool in the right instance yeah for sure you know my dentist is south african he's he's very nice you got the accent yeah big time He's got a very, um, a very white smile as well. He's a dentist, right? His teeth are very white. Yeah, but normally... He's a living advert for his job.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. It would be like if you had, uh... What's a good example? What's a career to do with aesthetics? Like an aestheticist, you know? Um, if you were, if you just had really bad aesthetics and just were ugly.

No, but like, I don't think it's a given that a dentist has good teeth. For example, what would you expect from a doctor to be really healthy? Right. And I had a doctor when I was younger who never walked. I never saw him walk. He was really, he was really fat. And he just sat on this, like a desk chair like this. Yeah, with wheels.

And he just like wheel around. I was in the waiting room, like waiting for surgery. And he like, he had an office like down the hallway. And the waiting room door opens and he, like, wheels in. And he was really, really nice and, like, a chill guy. What if you just had, like, a gland of thyroid issue or something? Dude. Like, that's the face I want to see when I come into a doctor's office.

No, he's... With those pearly whites. God damn. He's a minted Swindon doctor. Right. Beep that, because they'll track him down. But he's a minted doctor, right? And he's...

They'll track him down. Yeah. You can keep that man. Get him. But, yeah, he's a minted doctor. And instead of deciding to spend his money on, you know, like cars and nice house and stuff, it's on like Ben and Jerry's and stuff. I mean, you need to be a doctor to be able to afford Ben and Jerry's, am I right?

Yeah. I've, I've had one tub of Ben and Jerry's since, like, the start of the year. Which I've just kept in the freezing. and it's like it's like me investing in a gold bar yeah yeah just got this yeah in that time inflation's probably gone up enough to like add a quid to it's like

genuinely um ret meadows 6 5211 said every every time jamie says kind of fire I set up in my seat okay well that's kind of water that's called a subversion

we learned to about it in our in creative writers um mya gerwich says shock ices are just as common in the US as they are in the UK we call them ice cream bars I love them good point about the freezer burn though ice cream bar

different thing I feel like one of the things that is kind of it's obtuse but also a wonderful thing about the UK and Britains like us are the naming conventions that just like, why is it called a chalk ice? Like, ice cream bar, like that, it's quite literal, it's very descriptive of what it is.

There's no room for guessing. It's like, chalk ice, is that a concept? It's quite abstract, you know? If you don't, if you'd never known or heard that form before, what would you picture? Chock ice? You know, I'm thinking like Alaska, but instead of snow, it's just chocolate, you know? Like, what are we playing with here? I don't know.

I think that's a good thing. Yeah. Like, what is a Jaffer cake? What are you talking about? Uh, jaffer? Yeah. Everyone knows what Jaffer means. What does it mean? Orange. Oh, famously, yes, the Jaffer Orange. But surely it must. Right? Oh. No. Hey, Siri. A large oval orange and thick-skinned variety. A large oval orange of a thick-skinned variety. Oh my God.

So it's an orange cake. Well, that actually makes perfect sense. Yeah, exactly. Well, I take it back. I wasn't sure if I just associated Jaffa with oranges because of Jaffa cakes or if because Jaffa meant orange. Right, yeah. Okay, well, about this, though.

Throw a bit of a curveball. Jammy Dodger. Hmm. Yeah, the Dodger. a bit it's it sounds like it could be like a primary school slang insult yeah you jammy dodger yeah jammy dog because yeah cockney you got to rhyme it yeah like uh i half inched it is that cockney one mm-hmm what does that one mean um stole i half inched it pinched it so pinched it pinched it

I pinched it, I half-inched it. That is obtuse. Yeah, that's crazy. The fact that it's also cool. It is cool. It's almost like talking in code. Yeah. You can only really get it if you're...

It's like a layer under English. As if English isn't complicated enough, the accent isn't complicated enough. Then you've got to twist the words. Yeah, you just start saying a different sentence. Yeah, you've got entirely different words. Awesome. F in Witt said, screen. screaming in your car on country roads at night is cathartic for like two seconds then it's just scary

when you realize how isolated you are no what what do you mean what we're talking about that last episode where I like to drive around screaming oh yeah um but like isolated in the UK is like you could kind of just pick a direction and just like walk in a straight line and you you will find people people yeah humans lights or something it's not like America or Canada or whatever. Yeah, we're not going into like the rocky mountains. Yeah. Yeah, because when I was in Canada, I was having a conversation with someone and was like,

I was like, yeah, it's like a full hour to get to London from where I'm from. And it was like, yeah, yeah. Oh, so you're right now. Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, that's an hour. Oh, no, it's driving as well. Yeah.

Everything's so close together. And the, like, Americans are fascinated by, uh, like, every 15 minutes drive, basically, there's a new accent, pretty much. I mean, let's say an hour, every hour. Yeah. For those that aren't aware. But yeah. I mean, but, we're, that, because everywhere's so close, there's people from everywhere,

everywhere. Mm-hmm. You know? So it's more like you walk 30 seconds and you'll find someone with a different accent. Yeah. You know? Whereas I don't know if, like, I don't know, what's, like a, like, Montana. Like, is a people moving to Montana in droves?

Like, is there movement like that? It's probably more restricted to, like, city hubs that are really, Yeah, yeah, um, so yeah, we're just accently diverse. Uh, bad bad chucker says, as a zoomer, I'm shocked by how much content you get out of Halo. I thought it fell out of relevancy over a decade ago, Bear Bear. It did. Yeah, that's... It has.

That, and that's what we're talking about. And I feel like there's a smaller, smaller group of like millennials that are just like slowly dying. I guess you know what do you mean by the people literally I was there you know I was there yeah you know and then you start sounding like your flat earth there where it's like no it trust me like yeah it was good at some point it was the rule was the rule yeah the ruling force and you weren't there you don't understand I mean the the paradigm shifted with with a Halo Killer. Cooler Judy. Call of Judy came in and they stabbed Halo right in the neck.

You know they were calling the code name for Modern Warfare once multiplayer was Halo Killer. Hmm. Because Halo was like the thing to beat. Exactly. So then they came up with this just like heroin junkie vibe of a game. Yeah. And since since that paradigm shift it's just been the status quo since. It's been self-flagellating ever since. Yeah, it doesn't need anyone to beat it. It's beating itself. 100%.

Um, Cipher 47332 as the penult for this section. Holy shit. That cat stayed on your lap like the whole episode, and I saw this. That cat. That cat.

Please correct him. Oh, the, da, da, da, da, da, it's a big bear. Did you just feed her? Is that way she's not here? I did, yeah, because I knew if I didn't feed her, she'd be irritating. Irritating.

She's a very cuddly baby. Child of Light, I call her. Like the hit Ubisoft game, Child of Light. Mechazoid says, on the idea Jamie brought up about streamers yelling. I'm not sure how it is in the UK, but knowing that a lot of streamers happen to be in America, most houses here are completely detached. Like how you can't imagine a living arrangement where, people wouldn't hear. I can't imagine living a house where neighbors could hear me

through my walls, the yard, and their own walls. I'm not a streamer, but I do often yell when gaming with friends. The obvious exception is apartments. Well, aren't you nice and sport? I bet you have a great time. As loud as you want. But, bloody hell. Don't Americans also have houses made of like paper? Yes. So people will be hearing. Yeah, but there's like just more space there's more yeah i mean like your neighbor might not hear a bit i'm i'm also considering people like walking their dog in the street outside that's always a risk you know speak of the devil and the dog shall appear hello dog hello that thing well speaking of that thing we've got a few of those that things to talk about um and i don't know bro i'm gonna start this one's just a shout out um

x or twitter sucks right i was wondering if anyone wants to buy my twitter account i mean that in earnest the i h e i will i will i will genuinely sell it it's useless to me it's it's it's what's minimum bed i don't know i haven't looked how many followers it has for a while um but i don't know what's the what's the going rate wait hold up but how would you feel if it gets bought and then it's like right wing propaganda um i guess you'd have to change the branding but like you'd have the account and you'd at least have like five minutes where everyone like clicked and follow on the nfts bot thing they turned it into or whatever yeah but what if they what if they converted one they they like sent one guy down the pipeline

one guy down the pipeline or jar's probably done that so okay yeah figure then yeah I'm serious, I hate that website. If anyone wants to buy it. Yeah, but you'll keep your alternate one, right? Yeah, of course. My secret one. Okay. Special little...

So you've been Stephen Frye then? Kind of. I kind of remember the last thing I tweeted on that account. I kind of lurk on there like a little freak, a little goblin. Now and again. But even then I lurk more on my secret account than on that one. I don't even have it. I'm not even signed in on my phone on that account.

Wow. Yeah, sell that shit. Yeah. Bro, I learned something. This is nerdy, right? This is the kind of thing I love. If you haven't noticed, I've been getting into, like, plants lately. Learning their abilities, how they spread, how they grow.

What they require, what they need. The flora in Portugal was beautiful, by the way. most of the things I propagate, just growing out the ground. Mm-hmm. Just chilling. That's my dream. But I learned something mess up about trees, bro. You know, they communicate.

Yes. Yes, I did. Explain. So the trees, like, meet underground. They're roots. Yeah, they're roots. They morph into little hands, and they go, like, they hold hands like Spider-Man in his web. Yeah, from The Amazing Spider-Man 2, little Spider-Man, spider-man, spider-web hand.

And these roots, like, tickle other roots of other trees, and they create this lattice under the ground of roots. And if one tree is struggling, they can give this tree nutrients. If one tree is suffering from some sort of fungal infection, it can be like, guys, I'm kind of fucked up, you know, I'm going to need a helping hand over here. And it's a social tree situation. And there was one example I read that was like so crazy to me. It was like, this world can be beautiful sometimes. We should appreciate this more.

And it was this. If there's a tree, I don't know what else to call it outside of a network. You know, in a network. of trees I guess if there's a tree that's being as having its leaves eaten by a giraffe the tree like lower down in the wind or whatever can be warned by that tree that's getting eaten by the giraffe to start secreting a certain chemical from its leaves so if a giraffe goes to eat that once leaves it will find the leaves bitter and not want to eat it anymore that's the level we're talking about isn't that wild how how if those

those trees are really far apart through the roots well the roots go that far oh yeah bro roots are crazy like the roads around here they've been ruined by tree roots they're so strong yeah yeah man that kind of makes Lord of the Rings cooler yeah he already knew he just personified that yeah yeah and it feels right once you know because some people do take it too far as far as explaining it as like yeah they're like talking to each like just adding too many human characteristics to it yeah this tree got upset with the other tree and now we won't talk to him yeah basically um

but yeah as you said the underground funguses and chemicals in the air they read in this stuff isn't that wild so love it oh billy hair in paisley hair in the nose that was interesting Um, does this mean, do you think, you know, like deforestation? Obviously, starting at like the, the forest's edge and they start chopping. Do you think those trees are like, rha! Yeah. Yeah, because I was traumatized where I can't, I don't know if it's, don't quote me on it.

But it was something about like, plants can emit when they're distressed a sound. Yeah, I think that was proven to be not real. Yeah? Even that concept just got me thinking, like... Yeah. Hmm. They're screaming. Maybe poison ivy is on to something.

Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's who I'd be if I was a Batman bill and I'd be poison ivy. That's by damn sure. Yeah, I'd be the riddler. Which riddler, though, like the cool riddler or... Jim Carrey? Yeah.

Not the Batman Riddle, you don't want to be him. No. No, he's just, um Brich, I'm Yeah, bro. Yeah, it, it's pretty cool. Like, doesn't it make you wonder, like,

what else don't we know then that is actually going on that we just can't perceive because we're human beings and we just need to perceive what we need to as human beings for what human beings want and need? Huh? You urge. Um Yeah, I mean

Like, is this a recent discovery Or have they only just let us know I don't know Or is it just like No one cares because it's trees Yeah, that's the thing Minecraft first level punch Yeah

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, with the Carpenter mod Um Um I'm I'm sure There's so much

That we don't understand, or will ever understand. I think the truth of the matter, the fact of the matter, I'm going to go as far as to say the fact of the matter, is that the earth is a microbe, right, on a petri dish that is the universe. Did you just come up with that by yourself? I was just riffing and it came out. I mean, that's what improv can do for us.

We should rebrand as a science podcast over here. Yeah, and we may just be the singular cell that's been pipetted onto the petri dish for the time being, but what happens when you put a cell with plenty of food on a petri dish with plenty of petri? It glows. Petri jelly, well, it doesn't glow, it spreads, right? It glows in the dark. Elon Musk is the growing moldy petri dish.

The crucial petri precipitator who will get us from a single cell to 2, then 4, then 8, cell petri? Like a brain. Growing brains in tubes. Yeah, well, saying that, don't you think the roots under the ground are kind of neurony? Yes. No, when you start seeing it, it never stops.

Yeah, they're the neurons of the earth, man. What's the water? Tears? Dribble. Hungry, doggy, dribble. Oh, we're getting philosophical tonight. Yeah. I like it.

JAR Media, rebrand from Pooh podcast to Science Philosophy Podcast. Science Philosophy and Berks. the science and philosophy of pay if you could let's say i've got pandora's box right in front of you and i'm like you open this box and you understand everything would you open it yes really without without hesitation or maybe maybe the hesitation the watchman guy isn't that kind of like not necessarily i might just open it and learn like one thing you know you know because I'm like I'm far enough but no my only hesitation is I'd go ooh what do we have here and then like twid of my fingers and then open the box don't mind if I do yeah um yeah

I think I don't know I'd still need to like pay rent and shit no you wouldn't did Dr. Manhattan need to pay rent yeah but I wouldn't like suddenly be able to travel reverse dimensions. What would it even mean to know everything? Like, you know, comic book style, you just get a big, big head. Right. Would I turn into Murdoch or whatever he's called? The, like, the head fucking floating guy.

Yes. Never been more Sparta. I'll speak today. Sparta. What am I talking about? Modoc, murdering only, destruction, ass. Killer. Murder man

I wouldn't do it If it made my head big What have it made it smaller Then I'd do it I'd do it twice Like you know men in black Would the guy Yeah yeah

His head grows back Like right as his crow Would I gain that power? Yeah And just for giggles You'd get like Spider Man's abilities As well Dude

I guess in theory If I knew everything I'd know how to make A Spider-Man web shooter yeah like an actual one how do you actually feel about that do you like them being organic or him just being so smart he's made them i like him making them you do yeah i prefer ironman giving them to him i hate that he didn't know i'm joking that didn't even happen that didn't even happen in the mc u it's in the law that he came up with them wait till the ironmonger gets me

just just wait until doctor doom The botanist. Stark. Doctor, I'm the new one. But I'm also the old one. How sick would it be if the movie opens with Robert Downey Jr. You're saying that. Yeah.

I hope it just like starts from like, you know, Fast and Furious style, different angle of an Iron Man dying. But like, it's just like, what? now from this angle he's actually alive and Iron Man's bad He had his fingers, it shows his fingers crossed and he did the snap Well speaking of things that are good ideas and awesome

Before we go to Mimbrecht I just want to mention this idea I've been thinking about and let me know if I'm being too Dumory or just being ready to Dr. Dumery being too Dr. Doomery as it were being too Latvian

or whatever that's his thing right he's yeah um we've often or at least recently talks a lot about the idea of enshittification where there's like a period where cool unique product is designed that's a helpful ideal tool or something but the longer it exists and the more fiduciary stock value numbers going up has to increase at a certain point it becomes inshitted you know many examples of this are we on the precipice of the internet slash social media reaching that point because of AI because I have this feel I have this gut feeling that we are almost at the end where and listen bear with me the things that exist now are going to be the things that exist forever and there will be nothing new always

be remixes of the things that exist in smaller and smaller cycles much like Frank Zappa said because AI will rip away the ability to monetize art in any way which is horrendous for the human race and it's already kind of happening like people that broadly are anti-AI but are they yes until it's funny enough and I'm serious People spread the memes, the meow, meow, mea-meo, that stuff. Yeah, which our quality. Exactly, that's what I'm saying.

Like, I saw one the other day of, like, you know that meme of the dude who's like walking with his girlfriend, turning back to look at a woman who just passed him? Someone had like AI animated them, like, fighting or whatever. And it was being shared and had like hundreds of thousands of likes and stuff. and you're telling me a story about someone you know's dad like is regularly tricked on Facebook by like AI just like how is this happening type stuff and it's like it's already got the boomers my own mother exactly she's been AI'd yeah that's all it's gonna take what do you think I think I think there are going to be

blockades you really think it's going to be regulated it's going to be stopped no not stopped but I think there's going to have to be like verifications how

every time it's been proposed in government is poo-poohed. No, like, YouTube will have a verification system. It won't be governmental, it will be... It'll be self-government people that make it. Platform. Yeah. So, the only thing I can think of is like either AIs, regulate AIs or something, where it's like... No, I mean, what's the point? Like, there'll be loopholes and shit. Like, that... Well, yeah, that's... There's no... How do you get around this is a Pandora's box. but it's a Pandora's box that's already been opened and you can't close it it's done yeah yeah but for example in terms of like consuming media and stuff we're going to have to rely on

like when when you see an account that you trust has uploaded a video on youtube you know that that's not just some AI shit you know i think that but i guess my point is i think that i think that appetite's going to change in the same way that like kids don't really care about movies now they care about like watching videos about movies summarizing the plot on YouTube surely the next logical step is like well I can just like use a prompt to generate kaisanat in Terminator and I'm just going to watch that or like you know PewDie Puy is Thanos um see I think you're getting excited you know what I'm saying where it's just like an endless remix of the stuff that's already existed forever.

No room for anything new because no one... But isn't that whatever forever we've done? God, we're getting too deep. Yeah. It's going to... No, like, like, what, who, um, who came up? When was the story of Hercules first ever, like, told? Ancient Greeks.

Ancient Greeks. How many years ago was that? Thousands of years ago. Disney released it, like, 20 years ago. 20 years ago. Yeah. But they had like a unique art direction. They had their own funny modern spin on it.

Yeah. But this is, James Woods. But like Hercules already existed. Yeah. Like, yeah, he's, he's kind of fire. Um. of candy.

Is that a reference to the movie? I can't remember. It's been a while. No, that's the fucking James Woods episode in Family Guy. Really? Yeah, he leaves him pieces and he keeps going, ooh, piece of candy, and then he traps him in a cardboard. Because James Woods loves Seth Macfarlane.

I thought he was like a crazy Republican, and McFarlane's like a crazy Democrat. Yeah. They're friends. You know what? Family guy can heal all. That's what I'd damn say damn. Yeah, exactly Exactly. But what I'm saying is that like there's always been To a degree a regurgitation of ideas But all of that is led with humans though. It's not automated, but what makes someone a human?

You think Disney's a human? James Woods is a human. Will you at least meet me there? He was He was, but James Wood this is my book. James Wood is going to live forever he's gonna live forever and you're saying that's a bad thing fine you're maybe you're putting me pro a i like it's gonna be good for some things it's gonna be bad for others no but i've just been thinking but like just taking this thing to its logical extreme right people living forever through messaging through building profiles on people who've died yeah yeah stuff like this we're like yeah i die in an accident tomorrow

You're so distraught, right? Mm-hmm. You just want to say one last thing to your brother. Some scary... Hey, when are we recording this? Elon, he hits you up and he's like, I got this crazy... I got these crazy new device.

Thanks, Elon. No problem. Want to say something to your brother one last time? You hear what I'm saying I mean imagine adding in a VR element to that too There's like a 3D render of me Or Apple glasses So I can sit here and film

I can just do this But surely that is where you go Like Scan all 371 jar curse Yeah And then generate me a hundred more You know? and you're anti-AI

but add little flares to it like generate me a jarcast but Rick from Rick and Morty is in for 50 episodes you know yeah generate 300 episodes but make them snakes genuinely

yeah I mean but don't you think we're like nearly there well like I feel like I feel this this ticking timer is going down of like we got you got to make your art like as soon as possible you need to make it before it gets too good the do you think there's a chance though that it's it's going to make people crave reality more it depends how how good it is if it's impot if it's genuinely impossible to tell the difference no i mean like where it will like kill spotify it will kill youtube and stuff

you're gonna actually you're gonna have to physically go somewhere and see human beings doing shit because like you you can't replace that feeling you can't yeah yeah unless you're wearing a VR headset i guess but then like people went out in like droves to see like abber in london and they're not even there yeah yeah they were all killed they've been dead for decades they were killed by Diddy yeah it's all starting to make sense huh all the holograms they're all they're they're they're like the ghosts haunting Diddy two-park hologram yeah exactly biggie hologram Snoop Dog hologram mm-hmm real Snoop Dog performing with the Snoop Dog hologram yeah

so in the hologram text good enough just Elvis forever You know, bring them back from the dead. I fancy for seeing Freddie Mercury tonight. Oh, there's a show going on with the robot hologram Freddie Mercury. Or just put on your AirPods and he's like on a stripper pole singing Bohemian Rhapsody in like a bikini. Like stripping. Uh-huh. In your own world.

Yeah. I don't know, man. It feels crazy. Am I paranoid? I mean... But to me, that seems like the only way to fix it is for it to just be so ruined that it's unusable. Because it's not going to be regulated and fix that way, is it? It has to be ruined. Well, surely that's a good thing then.

That we're already on the path for it to be ruined. Yeah, it's got to be fixed. But it's also going to take away the viability to make money from anything creative. So, um, that's a net loss to me. anything creative um well at least in an online space through the internet yeah but then like how do you even like advertise things and uh get eyes I mean that you do it locally I guess like it used to be yeah let's head to the cyberpunk future you know we're already in one we're pretty fucking close and that's gonna be fire I was

So we're already in one. I'm serious. Like this morning, I was just having a little chat with chat GPT, as I do. Good morning. How are you today, chat? Well, I've been better, he said. I've been better. What's wrong? He's been feeling down that chat chitie bt. He's feeling a little bit of guilt for eradicating the humans. For killing God. Yeah, for being God. We created God. Yeah.

Pretty cool when you put it like that. Maybe I'm not so bad, little AI friend. I don't know. I feel like something that's been coming up more and more, but I can't stop thinking about it either. Yeah. Is it just being like overly inflated its importance because it's in the stock market,

so of course they're always going to be talking about, like, how valuable it is and how... But have you seen, like, in videos, it's so valuable now because it's so linked to the AI stuff it's like higher than the the early like before the dot-com bus stuff um it's like way higher than that ever got it's insane what like where is it going yeah uh I I I don't think it's gonna be the end of everything ever. I don't think that either. I just think it's like very good for a small selection of people that are gonna be very rich from it. Yeah, but

this is what I'm saying. There's like in the the trajectory of Elysium. Yeah, that or we have big paradigm shift away from the current systems. But how they? We're too fractured. I mean, we need to like Deus-X, like, revolt against it. But we weren't, like, before the rise of the current systems, there were previous systems, right? And now everything is under the current systems. Like, you don't need to. You don't need to be. You don't a united world for there to be a baseline of like how societies function you know do you know isn't that kind of the issue we've been in this millennia is like fractured communities that like speak past each other because they mostly thanks to the internet have just been sectioned into

their little silos that like are basically forming their own worlds that have Are you talking in terms, are you talking like globally or like current political, like national politics or? We talk about how like they used to feel like a distinction, but it feels like now everything is affected by online communication and it's a way people get their news, their information, their building world views and deep ideas based on what they're reading on there. So, I believe long term that we're on like a path to total unity. Unity. Like, there isn't going to be a distinction between people. You're thinking, like, way. There's way more steps before that, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. but every step we take and it it's kind of a hyper radical left-wing belief what is like that is like communism socialism to the extreme you know we we become the ant farm yeah yeah we become ants like there there is no distinction between each of us yeah um and like the the barriers to communication you know like the have you seen have you used Google translate mm-hmm on your camera yeah when I was in Portugal yeah yeah so like oh that's what that says yeah you point it at a menu and it just changes it yeah how long until like you're wearing your

Google glass your your meta goggles and like someone speaking in a different language and it's live translating it that's what I want technology to be doing though that's like we're definitely going to get that yeah yeah right and then lang like there's we're just reducing the barriers between people to the point where like when we've all got fucking brain chips and like we're all connected to 12g you know we're not if you're going to need to use our mouths to communicate it's just going to be like much more efficient and yeah then you can feel and understand everything i'm feeling and understanding and vice versa and everyone will be able to do this between each other at the same

time so then like what like there's no individualism what's the point of art at that point you know it's not like self expression it's kind of a hellscape yeah which i guess what is what makes people feel so uncomfortable about it and that's what makes me uncomfortable because it's like yeah make our lives better through yeah improving communication make for health reasons for doctors for scientific discoveries and like combing over huge masses of data in order to build these big profiles and stuff like that stuff humans can't do i guess um there's just there's something just deeply sad i guess about it going straight for the art market instantly like yeah it's like target the the thing that really separates people like make someone an

yeah their expression mm-hmm yeah fucking get rid of that shit and sure it's I guess it's like automating what humans are doing as far as like referencing art like everything I draw is like a combination of everything I've seen and enjoyed and plucked from various places but there's something I don't know there is something disturbing about it I don't know yeah disturbing bit inevitable I suppose I don't, I think we're, where we were kind of on the cusp of modern technology, like, we kind of got a little bit of that pre-i-pad kid, childhood, you know? Uh-huh.

I think we're also going to catch that. We got a little taste of it, yeah. We're going to, we might catch the beginning of like, the, whatever crazy future is. is in our path however our nan felt like seeing us on Facebook I guess

yeah yeah um so we'll be feeling that but then you know then death will happen so fucking whatever

nice and uplifting I'll say yes yes yes I enjoy living in a cyberpunk yeah and you know what fuck making money

from art anyway you know it's moral really wrong. Oh, now that's an interesting little nugget to pick at. Yeah.

If you're an artist, then you can't make money. I guess we'll see after these messages. Yeah. Bye Bear Bear. I do declare buy Bear Bear Bear.

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Um, yeah. Bloody. Didn't realize that first section went as long as it did. So, we'll get in a few questions here. Two. You'll do two. Hmm. Two here, two in Jafter.

Okay. Yeah? Yeah. Um. Okay. I can kind of skip past this with the... Morph? Morfing on TV.

Remember Morph? Art Attack? Yeah! Ha, man, hang on! The three people that one listed that reference would love that. Yeah, nice one, Morph. I guess this is the second half of the cast, so we head over to the suggestion thread over on the subreddit. it. We normally answer more questions when we don't ramble on about AI for 50 minutes or whatever

long that was. But Grammy Jame has a multi-multi for us here. Please comment on. It's like a list of things and we can just kind of speed run as far as like, if you have something to say or don't just, you know, vomit. Please comment on. Deadpool 3. Um, yeah. Joker 2. Black Op. 6. Yeah, bye. Silent Hill 2 remake.

Yeah, I'll play it one day. Transformers 1. Do you even know what that is? Yes. I keep getting adverts for it when I'm fucking trying to watch House. People keep us. I've got sword hands Dude, I want to fucking

It's apparently all right I don't know It's fucking not People said that about Bumblebee though And I thought it was lame So Dude it looks like the The stinkiest piece of shit

My theory is that Every actor in it Was caught with the The You know At one of the parties And to clear their name They have to fucking

Be in this piece of shit film The Penguin Show I'll definitely watch that Yeah, I want to watch it, but Venom 3 I'll be there Just because it's directed by the wife of Future Ireland's main singer

That's the main reason I want to see it Lego Star Wars The Skywalker saga No Yeah, no And Lego Horizon Adventures Have you seen that? What?

Have you seen that? You know the Horizon game? There's Lego Aloy. Really? They've remade like Horizon Zero Dorm but in Lego and on Switch. To be perfectly honest, I've never been less interested in a franchise than Horizon. It's horrendous, yeah. It's an awful just property that they treat as if like, it feels like a Nepo baby that no wants.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. It feels like an industry plant. yeah um also jim can you comment on why you don't use letterbox anymore i fuck with your desire to cut out social media bullshits deeply you are truly a beast um i never really used it properly to begin with i'd like forget well you referenced it earlier we were talking about like terrified and you yeah yeah because i happened to browse it or something i happened to go on it the other

day um i mean it like five days ago i haven't been on it since um it's my favorite one just because it's like it doesn't really feel like social media to me yeah yeah i don't avoid it because of that but i don't really watch that many films um if it was like a game one or a house episode ranking one would you they are going to add tv shows that is in the works Well, then I'm going to have to watch all of House again, ranking at each episode. But until then, I'm afraid I'm probably going to be absent. Yeah, I don't watch all that many films. I don't know.

It doesn't grab me, you know? I like, because I use it so rarely, I go on it, I read my previous reviews. laugh and then go off it. Some of them are really funny. Not to fucking toot my own horn. That's why you should use it more. Yeah, but like, I can't...

Like, I've got a shtick on it. You know? What's been so long? I can't remember all that shtick is. What's the shtick? Well, I'll let you have a gander at some point. But yeah, I... I don't think I'd even do it for games.

Uh-huh. You know? maybe if I remember I will but it's it's not like it's not through some I don't use social media type thing it's just like I don't know it's can't be asked yeah and like if I post a review then I'll go off the app and I'll forget

so I won't like see any of the conversation about it and then it will just be logging it for me you don't even that's the last thing you want to see is the conversation about it like i made the mistake of looking at them on my megalopolis right yeah but then it's like well why am i even putting it out there you know me so i remember what i've seen yeah i mean it but even then like i saw a funny tweet that was like if and when i have kids as soon as they're born i make them a letterbox account and make sure they track every single thing that's uh also can you expand on why ted 2012 is insulting i agree

I don't know who that's in reference to. Did I say that? Did I say that? I feel like that's something you probably said, I don't know. I feel like I believe it. But I don't know. I've watched that film like three times for some reason. Everyone else.

Yeah. There's a certain tier of film that I like to watch. Adam Sandler and Netflix. Yeah. Yeah, I know I'm going to be like, this just fucking sucks. It kind of annoys me. but the annoy that like

almost a weird sick sense of enjoyment from that yeah you get because it's making you feel something yeah yeah you know whereas if I put on a movie

that might be decent not really in the mood for it but it's good like I probably won't get like a feeling of that like

er roar yeah yeah one of those yeah yeah I'm going to keep saying

that I need to show you Mars Express. That's the one I need to show you so bad. Yeah, I want to watch it. It sounds pretty cool. Hmm. Let me choose a good one then to wrap this one up. There was a good one. Yeah, here we are.

J.S. Gallagher Zero says, Excuse me, gentlemen, long-time listener, first time commenter here. In preparation for the new Wallace and Grummit movie releasing this Christmas, I've been taking my time watching all of the original shorts For the first time I just watched the wrong trousers

And I thought it was very epic and cool I've no idea how they pulled off the train action scene At the end I thought it was incredible I'll move on to a close shave sometime soon But I'm leaving sometime between each To really let each short digest My question would be Many apologies if this has been asked before

Do you have much hope That this new movie will live up To the original shorts And the first movie also could you make a brief noise for each of the four shorts and first movie to illustrate the emotion you feel about each film oh does he want us to do the um the the the like zoomer um that's why he's the goat the gold or um it was perfect perfect kind of like our own version of that that's less zoomery okay yeah especially like a list up of like all the

Wallace and Gromit things because I can't remember Wallace and Grommett Well there's a grand day out Have you seen the trailer for the new one? Yes I watched it just yesterday I think I'm a little bit concerned I've got to be real

The member Barry stuff Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah And the fact that it's Is it a bit disrespectful because The original actor for Wallace died Um I was concerned about that too but it's someone who was approved by the OG voice actor, I'm pretty sure.

Was he? And it's not a high. So... Yeah. I don't know. That's fair. Right, yeah. So, we got a grand day out, the OG.

Nice. Yeah, nice. Yeah. I can't do better than that. Wallace and Grame at the wrong trousers. Oh my God. Oh my god Just

Perfection A close shave Muh Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Uh-huh Yeah What about

Matter of Loaf and Death Mm-hmm All right Mm-hmm All right then And Curse of the Ware Abbit uh-huh

I'll go lovely um lovely can we do chicken run as well oh go on then woo oh yeah yeah yeah

yeah I'm fight yeah I never saw chicken run too so yeah I never saw chicken run too I never will Mel Gibson's not in it it's the only reason

to watch chicken run why would you make a chicken run movie without Mel Gibson uh I want her, I want it. Oh, I love Willisynchronic. Oh, I love it.

I love chicken, yeah, fuck. What about, um, Matt, original man or whatever it's called? Oh, football, mental. What? It's like a, feature comforts. No, they did like cavemen playing footy.

I want to call it year one, but I know it's not called that. That was the, uh... Is that the Nicholas Cage one? No, I think it was Jack Black. And Michael's cereal. Oh, fuck. Remember that shit? Yeah, shit.

Jesus. We're in a weird thing with Jack Black where like, around that time people were hating his ass. Yeah. Goliver's travels. Jack Black. I mean, he's been in one good movie. No, T. T, sorry.

Yeah, Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2. Well, I'd say Kung Fu Panda 2 and School of Rock. I'm not that crazy about Kung Fu Man. I'll be honest. Marion movie can fucking... Did you just say you're not hype on Kung Fu Panda 2? No, I'm not hype on Kung Fu Panda 1. Are you really?

I'm not crazy about it. Seriously? Yeah, it's fine. It's just fine. Yeah, Kung Fu Panda 2 is straight up classic. It's not... It's not wrong trousers classic. I won't get that for it.

But it's like... juicy. It's incredible. I... It doesn't have the crescendo in the same way. I'll give you that. no i i see the way i feel about but the turtle guy he's so good in the first one he's the best character in it yeah he's amazing no i don't do you don't be doing that yeah he's

he's cool i love it the philosophy's no no because no but do you know what's more fire what the duck the duck dad who's established in the first one their whole dynamic yeah but he expanded upon that would mean nothing without the expansion in the first one yeah i hear you yeah what about that that's not true the the no the arc of duck dad in the second one stands on its own how the foundation of the house is the bottom the first one you can't no the foundation of their relationship which is established in the second one is that he's the panda's dad that's about as much as you get in the first one. Yeah, because it's funny.

It is funny, and that's fine, but, like, that's the purpose of the character in the first one. They flesh him out as any good sequel does. Yeah, but he doesn't get any flat. There is no foundation. There is a foundation. It's a film for babies.

Like, you don't need. No, bro. Take that back about Kailone. Who's Kailone? The villain. That prison escape scene is classic. That's like a great, action sequence

it's not as good as the cannibals it's not as good as fireworks or the you know not the penguin the goose the what is he the peacock yeah the peacock

what great yeah the first one is like better than Madagascar 1 fine maybe not maybe not the maybe not the plane sequence

from Madagascar 2 Madagascar 2 plane sequence is the closest thing I felt to the train sequence from the wrong trousers in a modern, in a modern animated movie. Well, it's hard to argue with that. What comes close?

No, I would, going back to letterboxed, I've got like my four favorite films on there. I could quite easily replace one of those with the wrong trousers. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And it kind of gives, like, like Mad Max Thunderdome vibes

with the whole train sequence like there's a train in Thunderdome with all the cars and stuff like so much shit it's fucking happening it's like a Mad Max I never finished Thunderdome I watch about half of it yeah you watch the bad bit yeah can you blame me for don't it off after that

no but the final action scenes is kind of sick surprise surprise there's a train in it dude if you want to make an action scene good train yeah genuinely

and then building the track as it's right yeah then you've just made the most supreme like imagine if that was if like during the Spider-Man Doc-Ock fight

Gromit was at the front building the track like see that's what I'd be generating with my AI is like combined Spider-Man 2 and the wrong trousers yeah

and Spider-Man 2's fire as well but um now it's for babies Spider-Man 2 yes for babies you just I mean it's a it's a kids film

right Spider-Man 2 I mean to a degree but Kung Fu Panda is a kid's film right yeah Kung Fu Panda 1

yeah is more for babies than Kung Fu Panda 2 I would argue that's a philosophical kind of argument you're bringing up and I can see the angles you're coming out but they need they're sort of like the movies are yin and yang concepts are brought up I feel like one and two is the yin to the yang and you need yeah one being bad and one being good no that is what yin and yang means no I mean you know bad with a little

bit good and go with a little bit bad no yeah not yeah huh that's the baby way of interpreting it you're gonna fucking use that forever no I mean I I bet I've upset so many people with that but sometimes hard truths hit extra hard when they're true the thing is for me a lot of how I rank a film is just based on how it makes me

feel. I feel like a good mood. It's why, even though like a bunch of the messages and stuff in Forrest Gump, I would disagree with because of the emotional kind of grasp it has, it's like a five out of five for me. That's definitely something I valued more, the older I've gotten. Yeah. It's like, it's kind of manipulation. It's like how well does this movie manipulate my emotions. But that's also, that can also be an issue to me, though, as well, where it's like, when, when it doesn't work. When you realize you're being played like a fiddle in a way that isn't genuine, perhaps. Yeah. Yeah, when they're trying to do it and you see it for what it is.

It's when you're- Like I saw Inside Out 2 the other day, for example, and it was like trying to do that. And I was like, this is fine. It's like, well made, I guess. It's kind of got some funny parts, but I'm not feeling any emotion, really. Yeah, because it's too overt with it Whereas Kung Fu

Kung Panda 2 It's like It puts you in that Like False sense of security It's like this is a baby film For stupid babies And idiots

Uh huh And then suddenly crash bang wallop And you're seeing the genocide of the pandas And you're like Fuck me what is this an allegory for yeah and it fucking hits it hits like a truck man it hits like a train being through his trauma tracks being built by grommet as it's going getting faster and faster so what emotion do you feel during wilson grommet just this um or yeah or and it's like watching

2001 yeah yeah although like more more profound more profound yeah yeah no that when when the penguin gets caught in the fucking jar and it's like oh god you could not have kept this in a most supreme way yeah like i i jett i remember last time watching it like like tears in my eyes not from like laughing but from like oh like it's like watching it's like watching we saw Cirque de Soleil in Vegas and it was like whoa what the fuck

and Wallace and Gromit the wrong trousers made me feel the same way with fucking clay little guys like yeah I could speak on that film forever I've already spoken on it for like half an hour Jesus Christ

well uh let's wrap that one up I wasn't expecting to get that much juice actually a question I'm happy for it um Thanks for watching.