JAR Media Posdact - Try to UNSHNEE - BroCast #20

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Find us on Spotify and iTunes under: "Jar Media Posdact" Find the original episodes under: "The JARChive" Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 04:37 Housekeeping 26:09 A Scary Argy Story 28:08 Ernest Cline's Poetry (Warning NSFW) 41:37 Kanye Nitrus Saga

G. A. M. Good afternoon, morning, night. E. Evening. Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, everybody. We got someone to say? G-A-M-E-O-N G-A-M-E

G-A-M-E G-A-L-O-R-E G-A-M-E G-A Yeah, man What are we talking about? Um, G-A-M-I-E-R-E-O Oh, yeah, I guess

Depending on where you're in the world Good afternoon, good morning, good evening, good night Well, surely it depends more on Because once this is uploaded When you're listening to it Yeah, so like, you'll be anywhere Right now if you're day one, one second one You're then it's the Monday sort of one

But it could be a Tuesday If you're premiering it, I suppose I stopped premiering it No, this is what I figured out right premiere it no one watches it put you going like in the thumbnail owing everyone watches it that's all it's that's that's literally it that's all you need to do yeah why couldn't why couldn't mr beast have just figured that out without sacrificing all those lives all those lives all those many lives but not before we go too deep into the episode got a shout at this jama you your patrons

but we get just just too deep when things too heavy weighed down by the pure amount of content that's out there. But where does that even start, bro? How do we even begin listening? Listening? Listing.

Oh. The patrons. What they get. Where it goes. There's too much now. It's too good of a deal. It's too good of a deal that like... You're basically stealing from us.

You're pretty much stealing from us. It's such a good deal. This is the kind of deal that changes things. Like, how are we supposed to even survive? It's such a good deal. Damn, maybe Mr. B says better at this stuff like that. I can't do this shit, but. I can just go through the listlet.

This episode is sponsored by The Geek Cave. Woo! I don't know even know if they still have the ads like baked in. They're still like pod bean ads, but I don't know if they're specifically Geek Cave anymore. We should probably check on that. Their contract might have run out. But if you hop on to that,

jar media patreon as a patron or a patreon depending on which part of the country you're from yeah depending on how you like to say that sort of thing you get access to the jail media group chat which we get multiple suggestions from there are a few things I'm about to bring up in a second in the housekeeping segment but that's not all there's the raw mp3 that goes up to patreon ad free and also that's not all got jafter hours on patreon I forgot to mention this last week I was very angry at myself when I was editing it, because I didn't even mention it as a book, even though there was one going up on that day. People, we'll talk about the new set briefly. There'll be some stuff in housekeeping about there.

We've got some stuff to say. They're saying like the last time we had a new set. It's a different feeling in there. I'm scared. It's a different feeling. Relax. Promise. I promise.

I promise. They're not angry. I can't go through that. They're not angry like last time. There's no table. It doesn't look like kind of funny. We're good. There's a table right there. Your foot's on the table.

That's a coffee table. Not like a dinner table where you eat your bangers and mash. That was a good table, though. It's a lovely table. It's a table I have in my living room because it's such a nice table. I'm not getting rid of that table. I'm right there with you. Exactly.

I'd steal that table if I was strong enough. It's a heavy table. That's how you know its quality. Easy to steal. No, not easy to steal because it's heavy. No, no. It's so well made. It's so easy to disassemble.

It would be that. easy to steal. Oh, okay. Just like the Patrions are stealing from us. Well, talking about this patron stealing from us, we got some housekeeping to go through. Okay. We got some comments, some queries, some... I don't even know how you describe it, that were left in the previous chunk. The previous mess that needs cleaning up, that needs house cleaning, clean housing, or whatever, you know? Bratmaster 69 can get us going here. We've officially entered into a new era of Jha and I have no idea what to call it.

I had 101 likes. I don't know. 101 Dalmatian era? That fucking reeks. I'm gonna say, um, surely the Charlie era. Yeah. Dude, I've got suspicions about this whole Charlie thing. I do, bro.

Do you remember in the last episode, I said, now that I've introduced this to you, it's unlocked. You're going to start seeing it everywhere. You're going to start hearing it everywhere. And it ain't like when you like, you get a new car and it's like, oh, I'm driving a red Mazda now. Now I see red Mazda's everywhere. Yeah. No, it's not like that. It's different.

No, it's different. It feels like to me. Eldridge. You know, Bander snatched. The, um. Yeah, the black mirror. The black mirror game thing. The choices.

Yeah. And there's, there's the guy, the eyebrows guy from Guardian. of the galaxy who's like you need to just look once you've seen you can't unskney and now I can't unchnie it's fucking everywhere and I told you bro these things they don't just happen I think there's like an Eldridge being called Charlie and from you saying its name so much you yeah no no it's like unleashed its wrath what's a good what's like a good pop culture reference of a character that goes through something like this like you know a character who's controlled by a deity or a god or a

parasite or a existential creature you know like you know that song die fantasy remember the music video it's like some teenagers they go in a swimming pool they're taken to a eldritch world they go to the pussy dimension I'm thinking like pussy dimension bum bum bum bum bum bum bum I'm Charlie. Yeah. Except instead of there being a giant pussy that makes your eyes go, it's a giant Charlie and it's like, I am Charlie, I am here, let's make content together.

That's what I'm envisioning. Just like a giant guy. A giant king. A huge man. A huge charge. But at first you don't know that it's Charlie and you're kind of subdued once he's like, don't worry. Me, I'm Charlie.

If he said I'm just Charlie, then I'd be chill. I'm just Charlie. And then on his badge it says footh as well as last name. Yeah. Charles Foof, it says on his... Honestly, if you could have that experience where it's like an existential, like, godlike creature that has just been there in the background,

like just picks you up one day and it's like... Like you blood-borne unlock your minds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly like blood-born, you know, where you see the Eldritch beings that have been there the whole time, controlling everything. But now they're visible to you. It's like, oh my God, this whole time there have been giant-gantoid Charlie's.

You know, they're like in the ocean or something. In the ocean. I mean, if they're in the ocean the whole time, then whatever. Well, they're flying. They have to be, they can't be too intrusive, but they have to be like, And now I've got the vision. I can see them everywhere. Yeah.

No, do you know what I'm picturing that would be scary? It's like if everyone has like a Charlie like controlling them, like a puppet, they've got like a puppet thing. And you look up and you've got one. Ew. Yeah. I'm thinking like a weird like am I, have you seen under the skin? That horror movie.

No, I don't. With who? Scarlet Johansson. It's about like an alien invasion. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, picture like... There's a scene where, like, someone gets, like, killed by an alien. Minor spoilers, except it's so abstract that this would never spoil anything.

Someone gets, like, their skin, basically, like... Like, off their body, and it's, like, the most haunting, horrifying shot ever. But I'm thinking, like, when you see the Charlie's, that's what all the Charlie's look like. It's, like, the loose skin of a human that's come off, and they're, like, just hovering above people. And you can suddenly see that, and it's like, that's all the Charlie's. There they are, that's Charlie. I mean, how could you live anymore? Like, even if they don't change anything, they're just there.

They're just there. Like, everything's exactly the same, but it's like, oh, that explains it. That's... That's why I keep seeing and hearing Charlie. That's what explains this weird psychosis I'm in, yeah. Uh-huh. The Charlie... Charlieosis, yeah.

Charlieosis. I nearly, like, I've got a... sometimes just stop things that I feel like I need to do. Like I sat down at my PC earlier, now we're going to do jar today. Should I just make a list of Charlie's? Like famous charleses. But I stopped myself from doing it.

See, I think now's when we need to call upon the psychologist jarling to just unpack all of that. That whole, this whole bit. Yeah. Make it make sense. Like, for the love of God, please make it make sense. Yeah. Because we're at the end of.

about tether right now. Yeah, um, and at nudazd, also is at the end of his tether. First, no window set in eight years. Does this mark the return of crackhead jar? I can't return if it never left, but um, personally, no window is good for me, because then we don't need to really anticipate the time of day as much. Yeah. Um, we're still trying to figure out like the best way to light this. It's a new set. It's the second week. We're trying to figure out the angle, trying to figure out the lights. Um, it's 11, sorry, 10.30 p.m. right now as you record this. So we don't have the intrusive light. We're just, I don't know, we're trying to figure things out here. Please get up my back. Um, just give him a break, guys.

Yeah, the albino jackals says this. I see RICO Dave. Wait one minute. Brian, where he at? to which the Merkster said, taken away by woke. Yeah. You can see if you're watching the video version on the table, there is Rico and there is Dave. We've got to cease and desirce. Where's Brian? Well, I can tell you where's Brian.

There's a story behind this. Look up. Look up there, bro. What do you see? Way up there. I see bone, Brian. You've got a bone. Do you see hanging, Brian?

Do you see what he's hanging by? He's got a noose around him. Do you see that? Oh, no, from my angle, I thought he was on like a peg. No, he ain't on no pay. I kind of see some string now that you mention it on his throat. I don't think I've ever really mentioned my love for command strips on the cast before. If I can attach it to the wall with a command strip, I will do that.

Not a sponsorship. If they want to sponsor it, then please. Command strip? I've never seen a YouTube ad for command strip. I'm saying that's my ideal. Should we just Reach out and like beg We could just like pretend that we are sponsored

Until they contact us in anger That like we're not sponsoring you And they'd be like well We've already done so many Like you might as well just pay us At this point Or we're gonna keep doing it and say Well we'll do the inverse

Yeah we're more of a guerrilla tape Kind of podcast actually What was they talking about? Oh yeah Brian Brian, yeah, the noose. I tried to attach RICO Dave and Brian with command strips because they're so oily and slippery, like, and kind of, I don't know. They do have, like, a, I don't know.

A residue. Yeah. That pot vinyl residue kind of makes it difficult. You know, the adhesive can't connect to something so, like, demonic. So when I originally put all this stuff up, I put RICO, Dave, Brian up in the order and everything. but day by day they would fall

Rico fell Dave fell Brian fell I put Brian back up I put a noose around his neck made out a string and attached him with the string But by then it was like

I'm not going to noose them all You know so Brian's still up there Neused He's noced and attached Dave and Brian No Dave and Rico can stay down here You know for now Yeah

I guess say um RICO Dave Dave Dave doesn't have a neck Dave the minion Rico ain't got no neck either so he's got a chin though

so he's hangable but I'm saying Dave he's minion chin Minion chin note that down Billy's Pet Rock says Unironically I do watch Joe on a projector screen for the immersion What do you think of the projector, bro? I've been converted

TV? Nah, I'm all about lasers shooting projectors on something now It is like badass Bro, loading up Sekiro Yeah, in 4K60 on a screen so big it makes me just like just piss myself It makes you look like

Willem Defoe looking up Oh it does That's exactly how it feels Yeah That's exactly how it feels Yeah Oh that nails it Um

But seeing as we're talking about this new set And the discussion was kind of limited to the Jaffter hours last time Um Normal Mantis can get us going here Goodness me I really like the new set

It has a little of the old set, pre-COVID era jar with the white room and the couches, which I'm very nostalgic for, and news set with its cozy atmosphere and silly items to look at. Tickle me, pink, I am happy. Well, I'm very happy that you like it. I'm happy that you're happy. Um, yeah, I was actually kind of surprised by this, like, IRL. ORA says, oh boy, except he's trapped in the jar set. I just read the wrong one, but I just thought that was funny. looking all right yeah yeah old boy jar

I was meant to read um sweet sparky you said love the new room already old one always felt too cramped could hear that um another boughy kai said only thing i miss regarding the set is there being no window but not much you can do about that really um and finally miniature ranny love the new set it's a happy medium between the classic pre-COVID set and the current jar paradigm good to see tank don't see up on the wall proudly displayed where he belongs don't get too attached this is supposed to be covered with a curtain once i can what's gonna be really expensive curtains i just haven't bought it yet really yeah that's a big curtain that's what big curtain do you want me to tell you how much i've been quoted to cover this space right with a curtain with a dark blue velvet curtain about 400 pounds wow seriously

I'm sitting for that surface area yeah wow it's what like two and a half meters by it's quite a big surface area no that's that's got to be like

four meters by four meters it's four 50 centimeters that way so that's quite a bit cutting yeah and then the drop is that 350 or something is what

the drop is like 350 I think or something. Okay, so you take the 50 from the 450 and add it to the 350, you got four by four. I was fucking bang on. There you go.

Doesn't make it less expensive. See, I knew I should have been a fucking builder. Bro. Or a curtain builder, sorry. You could have built all this. Could have been all of it, every brick. Every curtain.

Could have been me. How many curtains do you have in this house? Any? Two. None. Actually, I've got. only blinds. Yeah, I would have been useless here.

It would be my one and only curtain when I commit to buying it. It's 400 quid, though. That feels like... Do you do the same thing where it's like... You might spend 400 quid in a different field and that feel like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Fine. Yeah. But the fact is a curtain. Mm-hmm. It's like... I can't bite the bullet right now. I can't The thing that gets me

Being an addict Oh yeah Right It's like Mmhm addict Yeah addiction messes it all Because you'll just Whatever that addiction is

You will justify Whatever you gotta spend on it It's not even a question of justification It's just It's like yeah That's being spent How do we work around that? Yeah

Yeah So it'll be like Shit I've got no food You know Yeah But this meal deal is like Five pounds

Mmhmm Meanwhile, I'm at the shop getting my, my 35-pound bag of tobacco. You know, it's just like... But that has to be done, so... Well, yes, it's like refueling my cart. You know, you don't even think about it. It's fucking sad and pathetic. That's my true feeling.

That's an unfair way to characterize it, I would say, considering the fact that it's a chemical that... No, that's true. If I... I mean, that's the pathetic. bit of it. The fact it's a chemical that you can't control how it messes with your brand.

Yeah, I mean, the pathetic is definitely the wrong word. Just sad, I think. Because every smoker will understand what I just said. I mean, I understand it, and I somehow never smoked to cigarette. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But I feel like there's a different kind of understanding for, I can understand theoretically but not like the actual pain of like trying to stop or any addiction like I'm sure um because it doesn't have to be chemical like you're a gambling addiction you know it's like the psychological addiction the fucked up one with that is that like well if if I don't buy this and do spend my money here there's a chance I'll have more money to spend on the stuff that yeah so that's like that's that's psychologically um I feel like the the psychological part of addiction is kind of baked in you can't really remove that yeah yeah it's like it's a big part of train spotting obviously and that speech

I feel like is quite a anyone's addicted to anything will relate to it as far as the like oh yeah this is just like the last time like I'm building this into like this is the last time I do it that's the end full stop yeah but you do that like thousands of times

yeah yeah and it makes those words just mean yeah yeah it's basically just cope you're just coping to yourself yeah yeah yeah yeah and what you tell yourself addicts are the most cope-fueled human beings on the planet mm-hmm but saying that um i feel like most people are addicted to something i do believe that you got to have one or two vices that like you just got to put your hands up and be like that's my vice yeah one or two just that includes everything though yeah pick two awesome ones you know you got a bit the good ones though you know like sorry i just can't stop making delicious food i can't stop propagating but i bro i can't stop doing i genuinely yeah that's an

awesome addiction i thought like so sick i thought i had under control but then i counted how many vines i've created uh-huh um it was nearly 20 over the space of how long um I mean it's an ongoing thing yeah because you've got to like wait for growth and stuff yeah yeah

you gotta propagate properly you know what I'm saying proper propagation but it's like it's getting out of control because I know I've run out of pots now that's how I know

things have gotten a bit out of control it's like there's normally like a rotation of pots that like things are going in I've run out you're at max capacity I'm at max capacity upgrade but it's because I've also been

like I've been on my propagation game bro I've got like a system now because I've got the app which can identify any plant so I start with the app it identifies the plant then I Google

how do you propagate this plant right then I find out and it's like okay so I've just got infinite plants then infinite I can do this forever I mean you can

Yeah I work from home I'm just walking around in a cycle Like going to all these plants anyway I just Go to everyone watering the plants It won't stop It's begun

How can like Is it gonna be like Jamanji in this house But I You walk in and it The reason I pick these These Just in this room that we are sat in right now There are one two

Three Four five six seven, eight, nine. And in the bathroom, there's another one, ten. Just on this floor, there are ten vines growing. The craziest thing about that is that I didn't even notice them until you were just pointing around the room and suddenly they're just everywhere.

Yeah. And I've already got, I've got three lined up to give away. This is like many, because it's a gift. It's an easy gift as well. Yeah. Bro, get into plants, I'm telling you, don't wait as long as I did, do it sooner.

Bro, and now my algorithms are turning into it. There's this dude in California that's like, bro, I just planted like my peppers and they're just growing. Now it's free. I've got infinite peppers for free. He's in California where the sun is showing. He cuts the top of a pineapple, just puts it in dirt and he's like, look, it's just growing.

Look, another pineapple's just growing. I've got infinite pineapples. Bro Do you think Do you think that's how like original man felt Just like wait Hold up

Infinite grape Right We're not hung together as anymore We've upgraded Yes That must have been like The first dude to do that No but then you start seeing patterns

Bro Once you figure out how plants propagate Then it's like wait hold up The structure of them You start seeing like the segments Oh There's like a pattern going on This type of plant

has this segmented way of growing where like every segment has a potential root that's how deep it goes bro and then if you just if you cut off a segment that has a potential root and then leave it in water then a root will grow out of the potential place

and then every single one of those is a potential full plant bro all you need to know is to how then it begins they're selling these plants All of these plants don't propagating, each one of them is sold for like 20 quid in the supermarket.

Yeah. Does that mean these plants are clones of each other? Or does it mean the plants, like a big plant, are they clones or children? Lots of kids. Because if they had you not propagated,

they would all be attached to one plant. Would it be like a family of plants attached to one another? Or have you, cloned it feels like more of a clone situation but i don't i'm not a botanist i don't know you know i'm an early botanist okay is that botanist jowling is that what botany is yeah plants like uh it's what poison ivy is right there you go what's that sound there's the sound of like is it billy snoring it might be billy snoring which i got i got to end housekeeping and go into this thing it is billy snoring i can hear her tuck around the corner

like snoring which no one can hear it um but uh that reminds me last episode we brought up something in the beginning and i was like please don't let me forget this i've got i've got to make sure you stay on this it was an argue thing that um i was having a conversation with you and our mother right we're talking about argue suddenly our mother was like yeah argue was eating something and when he was eating from his bowl he was he was going like while eating it no it was creepier than that because i was well explain what the fuck you mean because i wasn't there and i still don't really believe i think she she added some um creative creative license um it was more perverted because what what she was saying was that um it was as if he was

saying mm yummy while eating that that's the impression i got that's what she meant was going he was going mm ew it's more like a moon yeah he was he'd go what was eating there was an empty bowl it sounded kind of like that it was I I was your reaction it made me incredibly uncomfortable and

I think I said to our mother at the time that's really creepy and then I got up I got up and left I've never seen him do that He's never, he never did it before and he's, he's never done it since.

It's freaky, man. Right. Yeah, I don't like it. Um, well, speaking of never doing it since, there are a couple things I want to talk about before we go to mid break here. Um, the first actually coming from the gay goth streamer jarring. Off the Jal Media group chat, okay? Okay.

Um, where they left something cursed for me to read. If I say the name Ernest Klein Do you know who that is? Uh, no. The writer The writer slash creator of Ready Player 1, right?

Um, on the on the subreddit just neckbeard things a poem written by this fella was posted on there. This incredible poem

poem by Ready Player 1 author Ernest Klein. Read it, it's worth it. Um, so I'm going to read this and I want to get your reaction, okay? I've noticed that there don't seem to be any porno movies that are made for guys like me. All the porn I've come across was targeted at beer, swilling, sports bar dwelling alpha males, men who like their women stupid and submissive, men who can only get it up for monosyllabic, cock-hungry nymphos, with gargantuan breasts and a three-word vocabulary. Adult films are populated with these collagen-injected liposuctioned women, many of whom have resorted to surgery and self-mutilation in an attempt to look the way they have been told to look.

These aren't real women, they're objects, and these movies aren't erotic, they're pathetic. These vacuum-headed fuck bunnies don't turn me on they disgust me and i'm not and it's not that i'm against pornography i mean i'm a guy and guys need porn fact like a preacher needs pain like a needle needs a vein guys need porn but i don't want to watch this misogynist he man woman hate a porn i want porn her movies that are made with guys like me in mind guys who know that the sexiest thing in the world is a woman who's smarter than you are. You can have the whole cheerleading

squad. I want the girl in the tweed skirt and the horn-rimmed glasses. Betty Finnebowski, the valedictorian. Oh yes. First I want her to copy her trig homework and then I want to make mad, passionate love to her for hours and hours until she reluctantly asks if we can stop because she doesn't want to miss battle style galactica there's more someone come lord baby that's what i call erotica but do you ever see that kind of woman in a contemporary adult film no which is why i'm going to start writing and directing geek porno i shall be the quintessential nerd pornateur and the women in my pornor will be the kind that drive nerds like me mad with desire i'm talking about the girls that used to fuck up the grading curve

the girls in the latin club with the national honor society chicks with weird clothes braces four eyes and a 4.0 GPA brainy articulate bookworms with mensor cards in their purses and chips on their shoulders. My porn stylets will come in all shapes and sizes. My porn stylets will be too busy working on their PhDs to go to the gym. In my kind of porno movies, the girls wouldn't even have to get naked. They'd just take the guys down to the recrum and beat them repeatedly at chess and then talk to them for hours about Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. All the undying social metaphors of the alien movies. stock in some hand cream companies because there is about to be a major shortage and I'm

not just talking about straight porn oh no there should be fuck films from my this isn't fucking real this should be fuck films for my nerd brother in of all sexual orientations gay nerd porn flicks with titles like dungeons and drag queens this This idea is a fucking gold mine, I'm gonna make millions because this country is full of database programmers and electronic engineers. And they aren't getting the loving they so desperately need and you can help. If you're an intelligent woman who's interested in breaking into the adult film industry and if you can tell me the name of Luke Skywalker's home planet, then you are hired. It doesn't matter if you think you're overweight or unattractive. It doesn't matter if you don't think you're beautiful. You are beautiful and I will make you a star.

That can't be. This is a funny prank. No, it's real. That's a poem. By the writer of Ready Player 1. That's not a poem. That's a plea for porn stars. Porn stars. That's like an in-cells manifesto. Stephen Spielberg directed his movie.

Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. This can't be real. This is full stop the most brain-dead thing I've ever read. I'm a lesser person for having read this. Whoever wrote this needs to be euthanized. Wow. What, but I don't I don't understand

like is this an actual plea for like is the guy who wrote Ready Player 1 starting a porn company? It's a poem it's an artistic expression you know it's taking the power of language

the English language and then stringing words together And he put this on Reddit This is just posted because of how embarrassing pressing it is on just neck beard things do you like that what when did he write that before or after the book um I don't know for sure but I'm going to guess within the same time frame during during he paused it halfway through and was like hold up

inspiration time I just got struck my lightning it's not okay it's not okay so it, to write something like that, it's not, it's, it's so, like, crazy, I almost feel like it's not real, you know? Well, like, I've, I've got no verification of, if it is real. Ernest Klein, poem, but I'm just double-checking. I mean, it's real. Yeah. Bro. No, it's real. real. No, it's real.

D is real. What's the context? What? It's a poem. You know, writers write poems. But when did, like, when did, like, was it when he was? So that, like, seven years ago there was a post, open letters at Ernest Klein's awful poetry. Nord, nerd porn, or ter.

A poem by Ernest. by Ernest Klein. I don't know one of the movies as good as it is. You know? He's an artist with a pen. There's a thing with me, it's kind of a wave that's hit me recently where it's like, any fear I have of like expressing anything creative is like,

LMFAO exists. Yeah. And this client exists. If your fear of yourself is what's stopping you, don't let it stop you. Yeah, because people way worse than you. Ain't like to stop them. Yeah, yeah. And you'll never be that there.

They have the opposite affliction where they're like, no, I can't hide this. Everyone's got to see this. Surely that's got to be some sort of like... Who has a film directed by Stephen Spielberg that they wrote the story of? How few people are in that? collection was this poem out before the film that's a great question i'm seeing because i think it's fair to say if if it was then it's fair to say through occum's razor that stephen spillberg agrees with the poem that's why he picked it was because of that

poem he's like do a background check on this guy you know find out what else he's done he reads the poem he's like let's do it so seven years ago this one says it was written 17 years ago so it was written 17 years ago seven years ago hmm that's putting two numbers together which that's too hard for me yeah way too lot for me but from that I can gather that the poem was written long long What's the maximum age where that would be like, okay, fine? 15? Maximum.

15? I'd say as long as he was still in the teens. But even like a 19 year old writing that. Yeah, I mean, that's like a creepy 19 year old, but at least, you know, they've still got like a one at the front of their age. you know they might they might be in university they haven't seen the full world they've just been playing fortnight in their room does that does that change the film or like the the book idea to you in any way but like knowing that sort of like the perspective I haven't used a lot of my brain matter to hold on to the memory of ready player one I I I haven't used a lot of my brain matter to hold on to the memory of ready player one

I feel like I've got like a strong emotional experience attached to the watching of it, but not actually what the movie is. Yeah. I don't remember anything. I remember the Jurassic Park T-Rex being in there. I remember the Back to the Future Car being in there. I remember I remember the Halo Spartans being in there. Yeah.

The 3-4-3 ones. I remember the race and the trick is to just reverse. That's when the Jurassic Park T-Rex is there and back to the future. and King Kong or something or donkey, I don't know. Yeah, and it's like just reverse. The race has been out for like six years. It's like the first thing you do America,

art we, you know? What happens if I go backwards? The irrelevant. The, like, the love interest in that movie is like, oh, I'm so ugly, I've got a big scar. That's right. And she's got like a little circle or something. Oh, right.

maybe that was portrayed differently in the book but that weirdly coincides with that poem being like I don't care what you look like as long as you're kind of a fucking dork and do well as you know what tattooing is yeah

yeah um yeah that's that's it's creepy like what you like you like you know but there's like there's like a level of nerddom where it just gets to a degree where it's like you have to know how you're coming across right you have to know yeah i i think there's something super disingenuous as well about like saying oh these these guys don't value you in this way um i'm different they they just give you a well they they just get a boner because of your your tits But I get a boner because of your brain. Destroy me in chess.

Oh, destroy me again. It's really weird, isn't it? It's kind of more perverted in a way. Yeah. You know? Uh-huh. It's like fetishizing nerd girls. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That really make, that whole experience just made me feel a bit not very nice. Well, speaking of being not very nice. one other thing I have to bring up to you, bro.

Kanye's nitrous. Kanye's been like an ongoing thing. It's like a... How do you even describe it? A rise, fall, rise, fall, rise fall, rise fall, fall, fall, fall, fall. Yeah, that's a good way. Like a roller coaster that...

It's like, it's a roller coaster that... But it's like, it's a roller coaster's been going for a while. Yeah. But like something fundamentally, structurally is like, like, is gone. Yeah. Really badly. And the roller coaster was fun at first. Really fun.

And then it got real tired. Really tired and really kind of like a tube going right into your nose, like just giving you straight nitrous. Yeah. Yeah. So it sounds like fake. the way this has come out, but Milo Yanopoulos has leaked, I guess, the fact that Kanye West is addicted to nitrous. Heavily addicted to nitrous to a degree where, like, not like Stevo, who was abusing it, the little pods. Like, I've gone walking with, I used to go walking with Ard, into the woods and find, like, oh, clearly people have been having fun with Noz here with, like, all the canisters everywhere.

these little they're in um like cream that's what powers the cream as noz canisters that's what they're abusing um so i guess Kanye because he's mega billionaire man he can just be like hey doctor who can get access to laughing gas let's just why don't you just do it straight into my brain with this crazy milo leaked this picture of Kanye with this thing on his head and he's like Yeah, and he's had canisters wheeled into his, his house. Yeah, yeah, well, these, like, crazy group chat pictures on iMessage have been, like, released by Milo. Um, with, like, a screenshot here, Dr. Thomas Connolly, supposedly, this needs to be a long-term goal. Get recreational nitrous legalized.

Meanwhile, we mastered the delivery system with a two-year head start, to which my layer replied. Surely you are joking. Prolong misuse of nitrous causes birth defects. Problems with D12. Your spinal cord disintegrates. Why would anyone want to introduce another drug to an already depressed, addicted, demoralized, and apathetic population of dopamine slaves? To which Kanye then replied, Can I have the nitrous today? With his Golden Freddy profile picture. Golden Freddy.

bro have you not seen this it's been fucking every look that that is it that down there is real that's Kanye's eye message account he's got golden Freddy as his picture and he's asking for the

nitrous that's fucking creepy is he can I have the nitrous today yeah that's the creepy like bro why does he have a Fnav profile picture

but also what On iMessage, don't, you're the one that gives people their picture. So Milo's given that to him, right? You're right. So Milo is the FNAF fan. Also, that's a really, like, sad... And why is he saying that to Milo?

They're in a group chat together for some reason. Like, why they're even linked? I don't know. Why is Milo Yonopoulos, Nick Fuentes, Kanye West? and this nitrous doctor all in this like I mean the fact that those two are attached to Kanye in any yeah like the dentist

like a celebrity dentist supplying drugs to celebrity duh I'm sure that happens fast on me yeah Milo and Nick Fuentes like Kanye like fuck that guy have you listened to any of gorgeous too

I briefly went through a few songs, and it was embarrassing and terrible. Like, Kanye ended with Donda. Yeah. Like, he actually died. I think the divorce with Kim actually killed Kanye. Yeah. Like, he couldn't mentally take it anymore. Yeah, and he's already gone through a bunch of things that he couldn't mentally take.

So, like, the guy's done. I think it's really sad. I think he needs help. What a horrible ending. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, like I listened to a couple songs of Vultures 1 and it was bad enough. Just not my thing.

I listened to more of Vultures 2 because I was like, bro, we're really here and going on like the subreddits and whatnot and like reading the cope. I actually thought it was pretty good. No, dude. Dude. It's like shockingly bad that album. Yeah. It's one of the saddest fools from grace. It's like, oh man.

It's like a sickening mess because I'm also thinking about his... He's got multiple daughters, right? He's got a son and a daughter. His eldest daughter, who's all like groomed in the Kardashian mess. Yeah, yeah. He's like a TikToker now. North West? Yeah.

Um, Dorothy. She doesn't send a chance. And she's in a bunch of both vultures, right? Mm-hmm. Miss, Miss Westy. Like. And she's already, like, performing on stage and whatnot. If you're, like, 10 years old, like, what's that going to do to you?

Yeah. Yeah. If your mother is Kim Kardashian and your dad is Kanye West, what chance do you have? But this is it's like so absurd. It's like how do you even joke about this, you know? It's like the South Park problem, but how do you even satirize or joke about something? So, Milo Yanopoulos. Nick Fuentes. Like, like, how do you, like, you don't even need to make a joke about it. Just saying it is the joke. Yeah, but then that, that makes it sad. Yeah. It's, it's really just again sad. I guess this is the sad. I guess this is the sad. episode with um the stuff I was saying earlier kind of weirdly tying into this um I think the

the thing that did it for Kanye was going off the meds he was diagnosed with shit and now he blames that on there's that clip of him saying I'm not going to tell you the race of the doctor that diagnosed me the whole Alex Jones nonsense Well Separate thing It was in an interview Um

And he's like But the doctor was Jewish I was like I just I just collect all that into the Yeah Yeah and the weird conspiracy shit Aligning with the

The Trump support I'd be yeah Like the His cycle was do something awesome do something shit redeem himself by doing something awesome and showing something...

We'd often use like controversy when he knew an album was coming out in order to drum up controversy around him, his name so then in a month or whatever he'll release an album. Well it sometimes it almost seemed more like motivation because like the whole Taylor Swift thing.

Or like marketing. Well but I think I think early on, the Taylor Swift thing and then the clapback he got from all that stuff. Wasn't that like George Bush doesn't care about black people era? That was a while before the Taylor Swift stuff. So that was his first one, but I think a lot of people were like, that's kind of a, like, hell yeah. To have said all of these things at some point is crazy. yeah um i mean the the taylor swift thing was wrong and then he he released uh dark twisted fantasy

which was almost like an apology album it was like he was self-aware he he talked about like the it's weirdly honest yeah this kind of duality of how confident he is but how much of a shithead he is yeah and like then his mom died and then the I guess the following thing was another Taylor Swift like in the bed in the music video yeah famous which was good that's like intentional controversy whatever yeah that's what I'm stuck on is like when it when the Jesus's king thing happened where it seemed like he was going straight down that sort of thing and it changed again now he's back to being like gross and yeah it's on penis like a you know

it's like a whole Jesus King thing was like that right it was yeah like Donder is all censored and stuff that's right yeah yeah yeah and that album still works um yeah it's miles apart Donda and vultures like to me yeah it's so far disconnected it might as well be a zombie or someone like because the worst thing he'd done before donder was the Donald Trump support and the maga hat stuff and yeah he said the slavery is a choice thing slavery choice thing yeah which yeah I don't I don't know the TMZ stuff yeah the the running theory I think is that he is just a counterculture guy like

he doesn't say whatever he doesn't really have values he just disagrees with whatever the contrarian yeah yeah yeah he kind of under the guise of like i'm ahead of the curve when all he needs to be known as just one time is that always that dude that's ahead of the curve and then once yeah he knows that and that's part of who he is then he can just keep saying shit and it's like you're gonna get go go to the the Joe Rogan with him on because if you listen to that and that's just like a conversation with Kanye West

and he's jerking him off hard yeah yeah you can the conversation doesn't really make sense it's just vomit just like the stuff on Alex Jennings is like so contrarian where it's like oh I've got to bring up the most evil person in history and then try and make him sound

just to be contrary you know uh-huh and it's tired and done and i think people have like including me have now caught on because i mean my my thing with Kanye started with like i i don't really like this guy he's very unlikable yeah and then it came around and listening to his music and like he's got a sense of humor and shit and i was like oh i'm i'm one over and then he releases an all right album and a good album and then jesus king was like oh so he's lost his mind and then just fucking downhill and I guess that's come full circle like I hate the guy yeah and I so what are you done with like ever listening to him no because like so like I was I was playing something on shuffle the other day and something from like late registration

or whatever came on I was like this is just undeniably really good I mean yeah a lot of his music slaps and to me that that was a different Kanye making it um a lot of who he is now is a product of, like, the system he's in. Yeah. Again, which is why I could never listen to, like, vultures or vultures too, because that's, like, recorded and made during that era that represents everything.

But, like, if you go back to graduation or whatever, that's, like, a snapshot of him from a long time ago. It's, like, not the him now. Yeah. And, like, if you're listening on Spotify, it's not like you're giving him loads of money. Um... but I don't think he's redeemable at this point

do you think that changes it a lot when they when it's someone who's passed away like the guilt goes because we were talking about this the other week off yeah with Michael Jackson right yeah and Michael Jackson's even more complex because there's the whole like did he is it as serious as that like did he

because he like Michael Jackton was having sleepovers with children when he was an adult man. The whole Netherlands ranch or whatever. Yeah. Incredibly red flag. Very weird. The most red. The most flag.

Uh-huh. But it's like, did he... I never, like, watched the documentaries or whatever around... Yeah, I don't think... I don't think... I don't... I don't... I don't...

I don't know if people I don't know what the consensus is on it I was getting the vibe that most people thought it was kind of bad faith like not entirely fair but also these are people who undeniably were in the presence of Michael Jackson and make these accusations the fact is I guess we'll never know

yeah but do you think that changes it though if the person has passed away um there does seem like to be some there is a disconnect to me with that where it's like i feel like a stream of a kania song is kind of going to the man who is alive right now yeah as opposed to when you play a michael jackson song i guess it's going to his estate like what does that even mean yeah um i don't know like if you buy a Picasso painting now he was like an asshole to women or whatever like I really don't know how to pass it a lot of the time yeah I think

I think most of the time you need to just focus on the art you have to remove it from the artist you mean it's not like yeah I guess it's like that person in that specific mindset made a thing and if that thing that they made attached from themselves is good

but it it also depends on how you tie them together because if for me I don't have any Michael Jackson songs saved on my Spotify because there is that thing in my head saying

like it just makes you somehow endorsing this by having it liked it's not about endorsement so much it's just more about when I'm listening to this I'm thinking about like this documentary I'm thinking about the accusations against him I'm thinking

about like even without all that stuff he did some weird shit my head has gone there from listening to it but if the if the boundary is weird shit then what pop star has not done that if we're talking about David Bowies if we're talking about

all these people I think like there's a difference between John Lennon and the other Beatle, like, jerking off together. McCartney. Paul McCartney. Like, that's weird shit.

That's different to... That's not like a Me Too thing, though. That's just, like, two dudes having some fun, you know? Two bros just... Two bros in the 60s or 70s. Like, it's undeniably fucking weird. And, like, weird, like, rich guy's shit. Who's actually getting harmed in that scenario?

No one. Exactly. So like even if that does cross my mind when I'm listening to the Beatles, I'm like, I don't give a shit. They were just taking it. To me, it's more, more damaging of how he was like a wife beater type thing. John Lennon, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But when it's a band, it's like, well, there were other guys in the band and they played a big part in the music, so you don't want to discredit them. Like, I don't really have any John Lennon music. But like, tying morality because we don't know everything that happened in every artist's life

in every artist's lives so the less you know can actually enhance it sometimes well yeah like when you go around a gallery in London with these old ass paintings you're not thinking it's the mystery in the unknown sometimes that it gives it that extra where it's like yeah seeing every one of Ice Spice's opinions on

Instagram or whatever is like maybe that does hurt it a little bit like yeah but that's that's part of the the music industry as well and I mean every um entertainment industry I guess is the I mean especially like podcasting as well like the the the boundary between the the art quote unquote and the people behind the art is there is no boundary. The product is the person, especially in music. Like, they're not...

That goes into that conversation of like industry plants and this kind of thing. So how much is it controlled or... And, I mean, nine times out of ten, it kind of seems heavily. Like, you don't really get

fresh faces. People that aren't somehow connected to the people who were already in the industry. In big entertainment fields, that's a classic, if you want. If you want to be like, if you want to be, uh, unfortunately woken up to that, it's like a lot of your favorite directors, writers, or whatever, look at who their parents are. Yeah. It genuinely is as simple as that.

Yeah, actors. All of them. A lot of these biggest names, it's like, yeah. And again, you, you look at, um, you look at, um, it's just. um like artists um but does that does that inherently diminish the thing they make though no but it's it's because like of course like if if your parents are like really good music producers so then you as a child born into that family is given that advantage yeah how are you not going to succeed exactly yeah yeah um it's it's more just building on the fact that the the

idea that some of these um success stories that like the feeling you might get is like it could be me you know my thing this is this is my division right where i like if you're a nap i'm not inherently against nepo babies as long as they own it in some way they acknowledge you you can't be a NEPA baby and at the same time be like oh god it was hard to get where I am yeah oh my god

my uncle Stephen Spielberg but do you know how hard it had to do the thing is the they only know what they know and they might have worked really hard to get there but that doesn't matter like you gotta know when to not say that

yeah if you are because someone else who might have got to the same level of, as them, without any of the help, would have had to have worked harder, done more. And most people, given that full story, will give that person more respect than the other. Because they've had less advantages. Like, that person who's, like, had no connection to it and, like, just completely through their, you know, unfiltered skill, gotten to this position that will be valued more than someone who's just, like, kind of handed it because of who they are.

but the likelihood is they won't make it as high up I guess I think more so in like film in Hollywood than in music I think music tends to be more like flash in the pen but yeah there does tend to be a respect from like hard work put in the acknowledgement and, you know, started from the bottom now we're here. Mm-hmm.

Well, yeah, because there is something more admirable about someone who's worked to a position instead of being handed it. Yeah. Inherently, yeah. Yeah. Um. How do we even get here?

Kanye. Kanye? Yeah. Because he's the example of the opposite of that. but he wasn't his mom was like an English future like yeah he was quite um different from

the average rapper but that's him though that's not like something that's his background his both his parents were like successful um like university educated uh people typically

um and so yeah when when do you want to stop praising the advantages like when is it when do you want to stop praising the advantages because you can say it's an advantage just to have parents who are together yeah

which his one you know yeah I didn't even mean specifically that I just yeah yeah but I mean that that was even something almost more against Kanye coming into

rap from what I understand um from what I understand I watched that documentary about him where like the industry tried to trap him more into like now we want you as a producer like you can make the beats your beats of fire like he was kind of corny and more not proven as a voice yeah and and less tough he his his thing wasn't like I'm like a gangster like the 11 years year old that you showed me yeah 10 year old 10 year old yeah what was his name little lil lati I shouldn't even be shouting now because I think is so I was reading his his Wikipedia and was it his Wikipedia or that was something

online and it was like conservatives are really against him being in rap music but they think conservatives think his lyrics are way too like extreme for a 10-year-old it's like what do you mean conservatives like it anyway I feel like it's it's not just a conservative thing to be saying that like a a 10-year-old talking about getting his dick sucked and shooting dudes with a block is kind of fucked up uh-huh know how you can really package that as a good thing yeah um tbh yeah the the sexualization and murder coming from a 10 year old that's fucking weird how did you find it was it on youtube or something um yeah i kept getting a song in in youtube shorts and i was like what the fuck is this attack on

my ears and I'm pretty sure he's been in a stream with Kaysanat oh really yeah so he's it's made it's just like it's too it's too young to get that amount of attention

it's just too much yeah um I don't know how you can expect to be balanced in any way because you just know that like there's some producer there's someone who is like

profiting of yeah yeah and like 10 years old man I think I was still watching my Superman VHS type at 10 years old

so I was 10 in 2004 so 9-11 was 3 years fresh flesh um we didn't really I guess it was still like dialogue garbage. There was no social media.

If I wanted to be a little rapper, it would be impossible. Yeah. It would be literally impossible. Is Lil'Ratia Napo Baby? Is the question. I don't know. Who's making this stuff? I don't know.

I don't know. Because the Irish kiddies, that's fire. Yeah. I don't know who made that, but like, that's fire. I'm pretty sure, like, the Irish government made it or something. It's something like that. Is it the lyrical thing that, like, doesn't bother you about that one, though? Yeah.

The genre doesn't annoy me. Uh-huh. You know? And it's following the production. I mean, the... It's also the lyrics of this little RT song, awful. Gross, yeah. But, like, it's just the same, like, three-send.

sentences slightly rejigged and on repeat for three and a half minutes. It's a terrible, terrible song. So, I mean, he's got an early start, so maybe his pen skills will improve over the next... Yeah. Or is there's just like another one of those... You remember the woman who did, when on TikTok, it was like a big, like... Oh man, what did they even say? Bibi, yummy, yes, yes, you know, all that shit.

You know? And then she, like, released a song and stuff. Yeah. Uh-huh. But, like, where's that now? Yeah. Is it just like, that's just, like a blip? Just for a few seconds, it exists.

It's something. This hyper-niche gimmick. Like, here we go. Here it is for one hour. Now it's gone, forever. Yeah. Yeah. Something gross has happened with me.

music where it's not seen as an art form it's i saw a really sad clout chasing like yeah people want to be what a musician is without being a musician yeah it's it's really peculiar you want to be a pop style without actually like making anything yeah or or even liking music you're not doing it because you're like wow I heard this song only the angle matters yeah yeah it's no I want to be the person that everyone looks at instead of it being like a natural result of like just following this thing you love it's like no I need the end result now yeah that's the whole point of it I think it ties back into the the product being the person yeah so the people don't want the the art they want to they want the person they want to be the person it's kind of how like um

reality tv is like pointless now yeah it's genuinely pointless yeah because you can get that level of drama from real people on tictock being crazy uh on facebook being crazy yeah on youtube being crazy um we're all in the reality tv show now yeah because all that's so like produced and like silky you know yeah and fake and fake I mean you know and that's why we just can't say anything anymore because the the woker exactly they're coming for the humor yeah they can't say slurs that I want to say anymore and that's the problems and they're shooting our ears off every time we say a fire funny joke targeted at a minority like we can't we're two white guys and we

can't even belittle minorities anymore like what what's even what do you expect us to do there's like no humor left yeah you know that's all that's all we got you take that from us what's left yeah we're just like worms put the worm video out of I should mention here have a worm video yeah look at these worms look at the worms in my compost look at the way they've congealed and of these weird bowls. The knotted worms. I've got to pee out of my worm.

You've got to pee out your worm. But I was going to say, we've gone a good amount of time anyway without a mid-break. I think next week we just do two question halves. Yeah. Because we've just gone. That's quite impressive.

Yeah. It's just a nice chunk, like a Joe Rogan extravagan. Yeah. Well, we need to do like three and a half more hours together. But, you know, we've got to pee too bad. How the hell does he not pee? Sometimes he does, to be fair. Okay, I wouldn't know.

But then, Jamie's just like... Joe, pee and me? Well, pee and me? Pea and me? Pea and me! I don't know.