JAR Media Posdact - Two Tall, One Small - JARcast Episode 231

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Anyone but me Good afternoon morning, evening or night Ladies and Gooners of the world I'm Alex and this is episode 131 of the Jail Media Positac Every week Every week since being back we've got it wrong it was because I
Starting point is 00:00:32 make such a mental note of like right there's one particular detail don't get that bit wrong so then my brain gets everything everything right but that yeah yeah so what it's actually two three one
Starting point is 00:00:43 check the number and everything I'm your host Alex joined by uh hmm Tyler Durden down here good afternoon morning evening all night how's your IKEA furniture
Starting point is 00:00:55 getting on my friend I love it I love IKEA furniture I represent IKEA furniture in every part of my life What about you, gamer, Jim? Who? I mean Jim?
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, I don't have IKEA furniture. There you go. This is the cast Before we get too deep into it, I want to shout out the Jammeda Patreon that made the audio version of the show possible and have your names read out in the first week of every month. Game a neck aside,
Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm feeling okay on this Friday We're having a heat wave in the UK It's feeling pretty sweaty It's a bit cooler today Is it actually a heat wave? Because this just feels like Kind of a summer Like not necessarily
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah I mean it is June Right Yeah Yeah it is June So this is just summer But it's actually quite But it's been It's been really hot
Starting point is 00:01:51 But it's also been really overcast And moggy Today yeah It's been particularly humid So it's It's like swamp crotch central. Yeah, it's not the most pleasant. It's not the type of every do a walk in.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Not that. No. Too sloppy. Yeah, we don't want to anyone here in shorty shorts. You guys not fans of shorts? Um, I would have worn shorts had I known, um, Tyler Durden wasn't going to have dinner with me. You preoccupied, my friend.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Tyler this is quite an intimidating like angle to be at because it's like looking down it's just bullying yeah
Starting point is 00:02:37 yeah you just instinctually want to just start bullying yeah it's just like about being up here I just want to
Starting point is 00:02:42 start just going in yeah is like is that why I'm tall people like have like a complex of being a cunt
Starting point is 00:02:50 like during their years yeah well let's do some housekeeping dutty house
Starting point is 00:02:58 dutty house. Oh, is that what it's called now? Well, the house is dutty and it needs to be... Dutty house clean up Gamer Neck section. Yeah. This is where we go to the comments from the last episode and just see what people are thinking, what the general discussion was, you know? Whole 9,000's going to start us off. I went back and watched the Yogs when, with Argi's initial debut in it,
Starting point is 00:03:22 and it's kind of crazy to see the character arc that boys had throughout the years. He started off as a hot-shot little goober who had no respect for anyone Then was taught a lesson and humbled by The unconventional mentor figure of Max Which is my golden retriever Kind of like Yoda teaching Luke Then he suffered the loss of his master
Starting point is 00:03:40 And now, as a wise and old sage Must instruct Paisley on the journey has gone through The cycle of life is real And it's effing funny I disagree with that Because he hasn't How he was described as a puppy He still is
Starting point is 00:03:56 No, but he has, he has gone through that. He had his master... He did. But now he's... He's had an arc, it's just not perfectly... It's more nuanced than this person would lead you to believe. And he's teaching Paisily. He's like, um, Han Solo, more so, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:04:14 He's like a hot shot asshole type. Who's Han Solo's master? Woody Harrison? Yeah. No, but I mean, minus that bit. Like, his character archetype is hot shot asshole. And he doesn't just stop being a hot shot asshole, because that's who he is. But he learns to sort of exist within a...
Starting point is 00:04:36 A galaxy? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, let's go with that. He's just... He's carrying on his bad habits to Paisley. So he's teaching Paisley the Wong things. Like eating your own shit.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So there were a few questions. regarding this a bi-pan thing we were talking about um at one point in last episode will d is going to start us off there's kind of a difference between buy and pan although they're both trans inclusive but they're both arbitrary labels in the end in practice a bi person can be attracted to exactly the same people as a pan person so it's really just a matter of which label you prefer this is a big point of discussion in online LGBT plus groups and it's honestly a big waste of time jim was right and saying labels are stupid and jack says thanks boys for the frank and confident discussion about sexuality
Starting point is 00:05:28 that seriously made me feel more comfortable about myself and it was also very funny top-tier segment and thanks again you're welcome I'm glad no there was a very good response to that subject and I'm glad that people were saying that just like buy is trans exclusive and that's it's just like a you know you you you refer in what way you prefer trans or you know pan
Starting point is 00:05:52 you like what you like whatever yeah Uh, Jack says, oh no, sorry, no, I really just read Jack's one. Wow Jar really left one, uh, regarding Jim's claim about an eagle. Um, just want to say that Jamie's claim that an eagle wouldn't be able to fly if it was the size of a bear, it's probably wrong. I'm almost certain that an eagle of that size would still be able to fly. My case and point, quetzoculatus. Let me try that again.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Quetzel coattlus. that was another one I was like when I screenshoted that question I was like practicing like how to say because I can say it what is it quite so it's like a big prehistoric
Starting point is 00:06:35 teradactal type thing yeah there was some fucking huge like this prehistoric creature a type of teradactal was most likely able to fly due to its hollow bones much like modern birds and it was the size of a fighter plane in World War II yeah look up a photo it's terrifying
Starting point is 00:06:51 yeah some of them were absolutely huge yeah but they're not the proportions of an eagle no but in saying that there were prehistoric eagles that were about the size of rhinos those being the hussed eagles I think we actually mentioned on Jara a long time ago
Starting point is 00:07:09 and they were native to New Zealand and they hunted mowers because they had to be big enough to take down mowers yeah mowers a big bird yeah mowers are huge Google one of those yeah yeah were huge sorry I think you can see
Starting point is 00:07:24 one of their bones in the Nutri History Museum I can't remember Yeah, I think you're right The thing is what it comes down to is that I'm, you're wrong And I'm right I want to see it happen You want to see a bird the size of a bear
Starting point is 00:07:41 Fight me Yeah, because you're so confident on this That you could just fight an eagle normally I just need to see this There were a couple more little ones here Someone said Does anyone know what Alex is always looking at probably referring to the way I always go
Starting point is 00:07:58 but I keep aiming it wrong because I look at like the TV that's streaming what our camera can see but it's in the wrong place they can't know that though yeah like if we don't look at the camera we're probably looking at the TV of ourselves and yeah speaking of the camera Georgie said lighting is depressing
Starting point is 00:08:15 as is this episode might want to make it a bit warmer and like more bright on the bright side Jim looks a little too nice in a hat There's no such thing It's too nice But I don't know what to do about lighting I don't
Starting point is 00:08:28 I don't Yeah None of us have done a PhD in lighting Or masters It's super hard to get right with the Especially when like The third light broke The room is
Starting point is 00:08:41 Is different We literally went out of our way To upgrade our lighting To make it better A week after the third one just broke We just do things to improve it And it always breaks Yeah
Starting point is 00:08:53 and like we have all the main lights right next to the camera and stuff it's like not ideal in terms of getting it perfect but we'll get there someday but I don't how was last episode depressing? Oh you know it's like that jar thing where they just like leave
Starting point is 00:09:09 a comment saying like I don't the worst one yet I know I understand that but it wasn't depressing I swear I don't know I thought it was really um it's pointless yes but by that um stress
Starting point is 00:09:23 then nothing is worth nothing is worth apart from this one from Josh saying just get some beam bags I would love for that to be possible my only concern with beam bags would be the constant noise yeah but they're not good for noise yeah and they're not comfortable either well they're comfy you used to have a beanbag and I don't recall any of us ever using it during JAR. Yeah, we didn't. It was the really big,
Starting point is 00:09:56 it was the level one. Yeah, because it just, the sound. Actually, I'm pretty sure. If we go back, there might be one episode where we actually do. Yeah, there might be.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It's entirely possible. I've got a hazy memory of that. I just don't remember early Jard at all. It was a long time ago now. Well, yeah. When did we start when David Bowie died? That's how I always remember it. 2016
Starting point is 00:10:24 yeah yikers I can't remember but it's like I hope people don't think this is like a permanent setup no I think we like this one right now yeah I'm fine with this one
Starting point is 00:10:37 let's do a quick jar vote all in favour of um yeah we can put their arm highest as he wins yeah you're not going to try that's fine for those listening
Starting point is 00:10:50 um Alex and I put our hands much higher than James. Let's end this segment with this one from Ayamu Paya. This is very out of place, but I'd like to personally thank Alex for getting me into talking heads. It is such a great band. I'm immensely grateful. Your taste and music
Starting point is 00:11:06 is amazing. Thank you. More comments that jerk me off, please? The jerk off comments. No, but seriously, the reason I brought this up was to transition into topics. speaking of talking heads
Starting point is 00:11:23 oh no what do you mean or no I don't like where this is going no I somehow didn't know that in 2008 David Byrne and Brian Eno got back together to do an album
Starting point is 00:11:41 called everything that happens will happen today and I don't really love the whole album but it has a certain song on it called Strange Overtones, which just sounds like it's just capturing that sound from the 80s, from that, I can't remember what it was called. I'm so bad remembering all these names, my brain's just so full of shite.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Remain in light, because that was the previous one they worked together on, but yeah, I'd recommend that. It's a really, really good song in particular, Strange Overtones. you should give it a listen bro yeah i will what's the album called the album is called everything that happens will happen today yeah just want to throw that out there is his solo stuff worth well yeah i've been going through his solo stuff too um well and he did a co-lab album with st vincent who i've listened to a little bit of before is st vincent in the latest guerrillas album yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah, she is. What I've heard from that is actually really good. It's got some really, really strong songs on it. Weird combination, but it does work really well. Yeah, I'd recommend that too. I'm trying to remember what it's called. What about you guys? Anything new?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Anything fresh? I've been listening to a fair bit of music. Sorry, it's called Love This Giant. Is that David Bowen? sub what are you saying bro um i want to throw james on into the the flame into the bus into the flame here we go this is every week it's just the bully james segment well there's no better episode for the bully james segment you might as well get it all out the way now no i just want to i want to hear your honest and uh you know thought through opinion
Starting point is 00:13:49 on the album You're not You might get an honest But you won't get a fork through Or whatever What's the album A Bandana by Freddie Gibbs I just want James
Starting point is 00:14:01 To make this Opinion public When it came out Did you listen to it when it came out Yes Do you know Because on Twitter Everywhere
Starting point is 00:14:11 Every single post was about Bandana Really? Everywhere it was on the news chat When did it come out 2019 Okay So but Obviously, Freddy Gibbs, one of his songs was in GTI-5, and that's how I originally knew him.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Wait, which song of his was in GTIA-F-D? He's not hit. He's just on a song. Oh, he's a feature. So I've known about him, but I'd never actually listened to any of his albums prior to Bandana. I listened to Bandana. And I was really disappointed. How much of it did he listen to? I gave up after the third song.
Starting point is 00:14:47 The third song? Hmm. this is a thing with albums do you think it's do you think you can judge an album from like the first few songs like the whole thing i don't think you can even judge an album from one listen of the whole album i i agree no i there are so many times where i would disagree because sometimes from the first outset of an album you get a vibe of that album the the mood that album's going for a vibe doesn't hold as strong there was no but cohesive no but you can kind of you kind of
Starting point is 00:15:19 know what's, what the sound is, you know, what the, like, good kid, mad city, you can tell from the start of that type of vibe that the album has. And that's, that's kind of how I'd base off albums. It's just like, you know, if the first few songs have a white vibe, then I will listen to all of it. Like, shadow of a doubt. You see, I didn't think you listened to, um, albums chronologically. I do when I'm at my desk and I'm actually on Spotify because then I can yeah like other times not so much sometimes if it's just
Starting point is 00:15:53 like Spotify mobile because I don't have premium you can only shuffle it so but I do know like listening to it in chronological do it make sense in an album sense that you're actually going through it the experience but at the time of the first time I listened to bandana like I don't know if this
Starting point is 00:16:11 was before after I had the binge of MF Doom but obviously madly had done those production on his albums as well. So it might be why I just didn't gel with it at the time. But obviously I've recently gone through most of Freddy's discography. And there's
Starting point is 00:16:27 loads of albums I do like Fritty. I think you should give it another good. Do you like Alfredo? Yeah, there's a few songs that are quite good in Alfredo. I like Alfredo. I don't think I've listened to Bandano. What's that other one? I don't know. It's the pink background and he's wearing like a zebra.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Freddy, yeah. Yeah, that's a very I like a few songs on that as well. That song, that album is quite obnoxious. You know, it's from that era of rap that's just like, bass cranked to the max. Yeah. And, like, that's basically it. Shadow of, I like that one, yeah. I like Shadow of a doubt a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think that's my favourite of his. So I think the first three songs of that, just they completely slap. They've got the white vibe and everything. Is there a chance you'll go back and listen to it now that you've matured, then yeah probably I think you should because my music taste has changed a lot since like since 2019 I've just grown and matured a lot so I actually appreciate production more than ever did and I kind of actually listened to lyrics and I was listening through it and I was wondering if if the reason it didn't gel with you is like the
Starting point is 00:17:41 use of vocals in the production how so what's different of Well, you know, in the beat when you have, like, sort of a repeating voice, like a woman singing or something? No, I don't think that. Yeah, sort of like crazy frog or something. Yeah. No, I don't think, I don't, I don't, I've never really noticed that when my first listen. I just think there was something about the production of the time that I didn't appreciate
Starting point is 00:18:09 and it just didn't vibe, I didn't vibe with, so I just didn't listen to it. Because this might have been a phase when I, like, I was listening to Nine Inch Nels a lot. but I'm like I'm super expecting that kind of production so I might have just not clicked with it at the time yeah because that's that's the band that I can't really I've never found I've never geled with them in particular time yeah I came in through like movie scores and went in yeah yeah that way
Starting point is 00:18:36 and I came in at the the start when it was just pure absolute 80s edge and that's one I've actually gone to actually appreciating his production is generally incredible he's yeah That new song with Health Have you listened to that yet? I like it a lot Yeah, it's amazing It's a great song
Starting point is 00:18:54 Because Health did one with JPEG as well I think Meg Mafia which is also very good I also like Peggy a lot I do really like some of JPEG Mafia stuff Yeah I've never gotten in He's Grime, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Got him, no What's JPEG Mafia? He's in The Grisome Oh, the one with the Japanese He's... Yeah, he's a bit of a weeb. Is he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Okay. Well, what genre is he? He's just rap. Okay. You see, this is me showing my ignorance, because I thought English rap was just grime. He's not, he's American. He's American. Yeah, he's the only went, even was saying that he went to, he, the military recruited him from, like, school.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And he did it, hated it, and then he just bought music equipment. Right. right that's how I know that's the thing he's taught I don't know why I associated him with um Britain then no it might have just been because all the names I think it's because you were listening to a lot of grime at the time I might have grime at the time and then uh yeah and then also JPEG mafia so I just sort of lumped him in lumped him in yeah he's got a really good bald is his best song because it's got a sample from which racer so obviously I was going to click like damn no but I didn't do it for the first
Starting point is 00:20:14 time I was like a fucking I know this is just my childhood what the fuck and I was going through my YouTube likes to find that one song that sample is from and now that that that song it's now like millions of views because of the sample and it's like JPEG JPEG but I do recommend listen to Peggy as oh he's very good I was seeing as we're on this topic any other goodies to throw out there I've got something I've been watching I kind of want to throw out specifically for the cast Yeah, go for it I mentioned
Starting point is 00:20:46 like Avatar The Last Airbender and how much I enjoyed that I went on to watch The Legend of Cora Kind of follow up loosely attached
Starting point is 00:20:57 New series I think it's more popular than the original Do you think so? I kind of have the opposite thing going on with it I've just given up on it I'm just straight up
Starting point is 00:21:11 just not going to finish it I watched the first season and the first third, two thirds of it is pretty weak stuff like it's all just like love triangles they introduce this weird like sport thing and it's all about this like sports using their avatar powers and it's like
Starting point is 00:21:30 contrasting this against Last Airbender every episode is like a new story it's like self-contained but it's advancing a plot there's so many good characters like it's just so fucking genius so then go into this it's like, it's just not the same. It's not funny either,
Starting point is 00:21:47 which is a huge thing about the original avatar. It's actually funny. Like, it's genuinely funny. I laugh out loud, like, a lot at that show. It's the perfect tone. Whereas, uh, core is a bit more, I don't know, it's a bit more edgy, I guess. It's more...
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah, I get the edgy vibe on that compared to the original. But even, like, it doesn't even have the, the awesome martial arts action stuff in the same way because it's always kind of ruined by like stupid like robot enemies or like kind of bad simplistic CG cars driving around and stuff like it's just not in the last airbender like original show and the main actually the main thing that stopped me watching was um there is a huge decrease in the animation quality from season one to season two so severe that it's like it pulls you out so much and the linework is
Starting point is 00:22:42 so obviously worse and I was like it can't just be me who feels this so I like Googled it and found like people have made like comparisons of just... I think when you're watching stuff like animation I think a massive dropping quality from season to season is the biggest turn off and it's just so strange coming
Starting point is 00:22:58 from The Last Airbender where it just gets better as it goes along like the animation gets better because they have more of a budget they had room to explore the story whereas like the first season of Cora it starts getting interesting and like the last third of that first season you're like oh cool this is actually like starting to build up now there's a sense
Starting point is 00:23:15 in momentum building but then in the last episode they just wrap everything up super clean and then in season two it's just like something completely different something new and it's like so yeah none of this is what made the last ever been good so I just don't really care even though it does have some cool characters in there like um jk simmons plays like uh one of avatars like descendants and he kind of looks like him but he's like grown up that's cool um it does have some cool stuff in there but it just doesn't work as a whole and I'm kind of really disappointed because I really
Starting point is 00:23:46 I can't stop thinking about the last airbender I love like a good hero's journey and the fact he's like a monk and like the just the peace having to come up against the conflict is just such a good like idea to me yeah I've been watching a bit of it the last airbender that is yeah
Starting point is 00:24:06 and I'm I'm sad I didn't have access to it when I was a kid I think it would have been my shit it would have been my whole I was obsessed with Star Wars as a kid if I'd have I genuinely think Disney for these new trilogy should have used the last
Starting point is 00:24:28 Bender, the Last Air Bender is more of a model of what to do with their characters because the terrible new Star Wars trilogy tries to hit similar beats that are just masterfully achieved in that children's show on Nickelodeon which kind of puts other stuff
Starting point is 00:24:46 to shame. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I'm a real big fan. As far as a kid's show goes, it's is pretty much flawless. Like, I mean, to the point where I was waiting for there to be a bad episode and every time I was like on the edge of like this might be a bad episode. Then it like would do
Starting point is 00:25:04 something, it would reveal something, the story would like go back on itself and and it feels like the lessons it it tells, like through its morals and stuff, are actually valuable things for people to learn. Yeah, like the philosophy behind it all. You could be like 80 years old, watch this show and you'd learn something, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah, it has one of my favorite characters, just the uncle character in that show. I'm just obsessed with that character. I think he's so interesting. He's like an old general who, like, like, fucked up. But now he's like trying to redeem himself through his family.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, a huge fan. It's on Netflix. If you haven't seen it, I'm late to the party on this one, but yeah, totally. Any other goodies to throw out there before we go to the mid-break? We've been watching, as a unit,
Starting point is 00:26:00 Jackass has been coming up quite a lot. Yeah. Classic MTV nutters. It's been kind of a nostalgic, experience for me Rediscovering Jackass It's weird because growing up You watched them
Starting point is 00:26:15 I must have been in like Early secondary school When they were coming out So it was that perfect kind of age It was like gross out edgy stuff And then you kind of forget about it When you grew up a bit But going back to it
Starting point is 00:26:26 It's still really funny And there's a lot of charm to it And of course The like crudeness is Is part of the humor But yeah What do we watch the We watch TV
Starting point is 00:26:39 but you guys also watched three and i've seen them more millions of times yeah i've seen them all quite a bit but it's just like going i last saw them probably when i was 16 17 so going back now 24 it's like it's just fucking funny it's so fucking funny they're all so funny yeah it's it's they found the perfect middle ground between horrible yeah and actual torture and like just having a laugh sort of thing. Yeah, because when you I got into like
Starting point is 00:27:11 Stivo's YouTube channel and all of these like you know like wired interviewing fucking Stivo and Johnny Knoxville about their injuries and all that so you get like a bunch of information
Starting point is 00:27:23 through it and like there's a bunch of crazy shit that went on and like the behind the scenes of all this especially hearing Stivo's like his whole life story grapple with addiction in particular it's all on his YouTube channel because he's so insane
Starting point is 00:27:40 he's like recorded all of it too so he has all this B-roll whenever he's referencing like yeah there was this time I was fucking having an intervention with people that weren't even there because it was so fucked up and then he like cuts to the footage of it and it's like oh my god he's like not even lying
Starting point is 00:27:55 like the kind of shit he comes out of his mouth you wouldn't believe if it was a normal person but he's got all the evidence since like him he's an insanely interesting person though I think all of them they're just a group of people that were like meant to do this it was like they're calling in life
Starting point is 00:28:12 the only one I would say where the humor is a bit more like almost on the verge of being like just straight up dark is Bam and Bam's shit with his parents yeah and that's the one where that's come up recently where Bam is he's addicted he's an alcoholic like bad alcoholic
Starting point is 00:28:28 yeah there's all these clips of him like posting on social media about how he's been kicked off of the new jackass because they're making a new movie somehow yeah somehow he would have seen how that's to come together but I actually um I checked out stevo's like comedy special called Nali yeah yeah um I like stevo a lot but I I don't know if I can even really call it stand-up because what he kind of does is he just like describes his life it's almost like a cheat code he's just like just saying like what happened to him and like that is funny because it's just
Starting point is 00:29:03 so insane his life is insane it's like not writing joke it's just like a describing what his... Did you laugh, though? I did laugh, yeah, but I wouldn't call it like a great stand-up special or anything. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, like, more reliant on his insane life
Starting point is 00:29:19 in the clips, and there is kind of a cringy part where he brings out that guy from Jackass 2 who does the, like, terrorism skit. Mm-hmm. And he, like, uh, Stivo shaves his pubs on stage and, like, sticks them to his face. There's, like, a reference to Jackass 2. Which is just like, you know
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah The reference shit It's not like It would be more shocking To like actually be there Yeah It's kind of a When you're watching it on a screen
Starting point is 00:29:48 It's like a bin there done that Yeah But yeah But yeah I'm curious to see what a new one is like It just seems like such a 90s 2000s thing Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah Because it shifted on YouTube Into like the whole The pranks The prank is your Sam Peppers and everything He was just doing things that are horrible or just completely fake. Yeah, because I was telling you guys earlier,
Starting point is 00:30:10 I was reminded of that Sam Pepper stunt where he just, like, convinces his friend that he's been kidnapped and he's just like killing his friends around him and stuff. I'd forgotten about that fucking era. Yeah, it was actually out of control. That's my biggest worry about Jackass 4 is like re-invigorating that sort of content on YouTube. Well, it's impossible on YouTube now.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. You can't make your way with it. It sort of existed, though, like, because it could on YouTube. It was like there were no limitations. Here's Filthy Frank, like, eating a rat in the streets of Japan. Yeah. But then you got, like, genuinely awful shit, like the, what's his name? Like, father of five, daddy of five.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, it started with, like, Filthy Frank doing weird shit. And then it progressed to just, like, people being openly racist. Just pushing it. Yeah. But maybe Jackassful brings balance back. It is the old school and that's what people have want. They want that old school.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I mean, it's no different to like what every other company is doing like Disney and shit. Like, hey, it's like that thing you remember from the 90s, but now it's the cool 20-21 version. Yeah. Power Puff's Girls live action fucking show or some shit. Well, like Cowboy Bubeops Netflix show. That is going to be shit. No, it is. It's going to be absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:31:37 The appeal of that anime is like its whole vibe, the whole soundtrack, the whole visual style. Animation, the style of it. You can't replicate that. That is the thing that can exist in anime and should only exist in the anime. And that incredible music, too. Incredible soundtrack. So, I'll add this out briefly. We talked about Grand Strategy Games not long ago on the cast about civilization.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And I decided to pick up Warhammer 2, Total War. there you go yeah incredible I don't think I could really go back to civilisation because it gives you that same satisfaction you get from SIV and you know all of the systems are a lot deeper you know the combat
Starting point is 00:32:18 is really deep and there's loads of I don't know what the word is there's just a lot there and I think it does everything that SIV does just better in every way and it's a great game and you should pick it up if you like tactical stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, I don't even know. I don't understand Warhammer. Something that's appealing to me about SIV is that it's... It's entry level almost. It's not... I don't know if I'd call it entry. It's streamlined, for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yeah, it's figured out how to teach you like these really complex systems. But simple. In a safe way. That's the one thing about, like, when I played, when I started, you know, Warhammer 2, I just, I didn't do any introductory stuff or, like, I just went in
Starting point is 00:33:09 and it took me, I restarted the game six times because it just, because I was just learning so much and I was just getting destroyed. But that game is really generally difficult as well. So, like, you make one, one, one move. They're eliminating all of your armies and all of your cities and you're dead. So isn't, like, it's quite hard on you compared to Siv.
Starting point is 00:33:31 What is the, the, the, visual aesthetic of Warhammer 2? Space Marines? No, that's 4K. Oh really? Oh, I've got it mixed up then. Yeah, 4K is like the whole space marines, like orcs, you know, chaos gods. I haven't seen footage from this one then. I've only seen the RTS with the like orcs and shit. So Warhammer 2 is like medieval. It's like Lord of Rings. Is it fantasy? Yeah, it's fantasy. So you've got high elves, you've got dark elves,
Starting point is 00:33:58 you've got orcs, you've got the wats. So the wats are in this. So it's just got kind of that Lord of the Rings aesthetic, but with some of the 4K stuff, is Warhammer one of those universes that, one of those like nerd universes that goes fucking deep and has history type of shit? Yeah, I, I binged 4K history because, you know, dark tide is coming out. Yeah, yeah. Which is, you know, like vermin-tied bits on the 4K world. Because of that, I went deep into the 4K law and it's like weeks on end just watching videos about it and... So they are different universes.
Starting point is 00:34:32 4K and just Warhammer. Yeah. Right. Okay. But there's some, because one of the chaos gods in 4K is also in Warhammer. So there's a bit of into, like, some subjects also cross over. This, that's something I really like about Siv, though, is the progression of technology. It's not like you're medieval and the whole game is like medieval warfare.
Starting point is 00:34:57 It's like you're thinking generations ahead of like, what you're doing in that current moment using your knowledge of how it seems like different itches to me that are being scratched. Yeah, I would say it's different itches but the reason why you play six, sieve, six hours in a row till two in the morning
Starting point is 00:35:16 is because you're constantly building on those turns. You're like, oh I've got this one. What faction is this, James? Oh, they're dinosaurs. They're bactors, they're lizard people. So they've got like a dino race? Yeah. They're like a diner.
Starting point is 00:35:30 What are they called? I can't remember the name but like one of their it's a big for his thing the leader of it is like a big frog and they have rhinos that like a spear people and archers but no one thing about it is
Starting point is 00:35:43 is so diverse and that in SIV you've got all your units you know you've got like 10 civilisations you all make the same units and they all look the same but all the factions in that they're all vastly different so it feels more unique
Starting point is 00:35:55 and like the way you do each character they have completely different ways they play but the game is more focused on outright combat, isn't it? Yes. Because you get, you don't make cities, you conquer cities. And they have all these siege, like, when you make siege engines and you attack a fortress and it's all about fighting.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But at the same time, you're still making your cities better. You're managing, like, you know, how satisfied they are and, like, the religions there. So it's still got the, it's like, they've got some, most of the stuff of sieve, but they've just taken a bit away to make the combat more. Yeah, yeah. No, I can because, like, warring in sieve is super fun. But it's not the whole game. I hate
Starting point is 00:36:39 warring and sieve. Because once you've got to the big turn and you've got an army, you're having to move every unit individually instead of so time consuming. And I find that, like, when you play and you're England and you're having moving units everywhere around, it's so time consuming to do that every turn.
Starting point is 00:36:56 But with Warhammer and Total War in general, because the whole franchise your army is just in your leader so you just move your leader around so that everything's encompassed in that so it's quite streamlined in that regard hmm I don't know it's something about Warhammer I'm maybe someday it's just I don't want to I bought that game I'm ghost runner oh yeah the cyberpunky kind of yeah yeah no that does look good yeah because that was on It was cheap on Steam, so I'm going to play that once I finish the Mass Effect games.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Why has you been talking about just been looking at screenshots of it? And I think I prefer the aesthetic of this, like, over the, you know, the orcs with the power arm and stuff. Yeah, no, it's... I like this. I think, is this this frog guy you're on about? Yeah, it's like really weird and creepy. You know, but he's Aztec? So he sits on this flying fly.
Starting point is 00:37:52 So it's like an Aztec lizard one, and then you've got the orcs. But the good thing about this is, you know, I don't see if, like, you got the Baibain. camps and the R&G they could just like constantly attack you but with that there's more of a deeper into like alliances so a barbarian equivalent can pop up but you can make an agreement with them so they don't attack you and destroy
Starting point is 00:38:16 you and then there's more it's deeper in that regard I think that's what the barbarians clans mode in Siv tried to do but yeah they're just kind of fucked they need to find enough other way to fix barbarians like if you're not deep into that like this whole really deep you know war like grand strategy I understand the pillar sieve it's like because the last two weeks I've just been watching history videos on the Romans and the you know the
Starting point is 00:38:45 Parthians and all of that and all these old military breakdowns of their defeats and what went wrong and it's just I've had an itch for something deep that's military and focused and I wanted to play sieve but it just wouldn't is there not like a Roman themed one as well there's so many of these types of games there's a total war is that the rat? No that's the franchise yeah that's like a vampire one
Starting point is 00:39:11 like there's loads of diversity and it's really cool with the unit designs but yeah total war is a franchise and they have wore him there was show gun yeah three kingdoms like there's a whole lot of them and this was on a sale and it's 11 pounds I decided
Starting point is 00:39:26 yeah that's the thing all these games are so complex and so many of them have terrible tutorials whereas SIV has a really good way of teaching players I got, it only took me about a whole day to actually get the, like five hours
Starting point is 00:39:43 of gameplay to actually understand it because of SIV because it's all in my head of managing the city all these little bars. Siv is the best entry point into this genre yeah and it's like I love the Three Kingdoms period I got interest in that like Japan, Shogans and Rome they're all really interesting and they're like
Starting point is 00:40:01 they're trying to be historically accurate so you've got if you actually enjoy history you've got like an entry point to these type of games it's just getting over the horrible hurdle I think I'm now so in love with that the way those games are that I just don't want to jump back to Siv unless if you want to play Mardipler of course I still would but it's like
Starting point is 00:40:19 when you when you want to just get sucked into this big campaign I think it does it better than Sivgan but also I really do like the full world as well. I think that's fucking mental that whole world. I don't really like the way the space marines look. No. I'm going to admit
Starting point is 00:40:37 that here and now. Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with you. They're really chunky. We're more from the like Halo space marine shit. Yeah, the actual cool shit. But I'm pretty sure like Master Chief takes cues from them. No doubt. Yeah. Because that's like... Yeah, but they made it cool. Yeah. Yeah. But it makes sense in the world because the world
Starting point is 00:40:53 like if you think of worlds, that world's the worst because they've taken everything and made it plus a thousand. Like, the space marines have got armour that's like 15 inches thick and it can't be beaten by anyone. But then the enemy has the same. So it's like this constant power level is, it's just obscene. But it's kind of interesting in that regard. Because the world is shit.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Multimedia. This whole, like, Warhammer thing. Yeah, God, yeah. Like books, there are games. A huge part of it is the, like, figures. Yeah, no, that's the, that's the bait. What it's based on is just that's, that's where it started. But then they're also like, there are strategy games, there are action games.
Starting point is 00:41:29 games, there was that, like, Gears of War one. Space Marine, the Space Marine one. Yeah, the Space Marine that everyone loved. But it's like, and there's books and there's, but they, the main, like, games they have, they're all strategy games, like, um, Dawn of War is the, the, the 4K one. But it's like, the reason I, I kind of got into 4K was that I was at work and I got suggestions of people made these soundscapes to listen to while you play the ball game. Oh, yeah. And that, that, and it's just like one of them for, like, these. robot ways. They're the weeper sounds
Starting point is 00:42:01 and it's just like just doing my work listening to these soundscapes I found it really interesting and I just got really interested in through that. But the actual Warhammer world is really interesting because it's very Lord of the Rings but also has this kind of really high fantasy of like crazy
Starting point is 00:42:17 shit going on. It's just seeing dinosaurs fighting like elves is really rats. Yeah and rats is really interesting. Would you guys ever play dungeons and dragons? Yeah, I would try it But I think it's one of those things Where there's a lot to learn
Starting point is 00:42:33 So it's like you need an entry point to that But there's no entry point It's just Well it's what loads of role-playing games Are modelled off They like use Dungeon Dragons as the structure But like when you're playing with people
Starting point is 00:42:45 Like you You got a role play Well yeah You have to roll play You have to roll play Yeah Yeah Okay
Starting point is 00:42:55 JAR Dungeons and Dragons The Jard D the jar dungeon. See, I would, I just, I, I, I want to know more about it to see how enjoyable it would be. Except we might just lose our friendship over it. No, I ain't, no, the way Siv goes when you've stood, go next to me, this, they'll end our friendship. Maybe, maybe. Fucking England, for fuck sake, building cities by my borders.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Well, on that note, we'll be back after these messages. Yo, how it is, Curs? Draw me to your shirts. Go check them out. Description below. Cheers, bro. In it. Ooh!
Starting point is 00:43:37 Let me just, though, mate my nest. Ah! Comfy? Comfy over there, bro. How's your gamer neck getting you going? I don't think Jamie has much for a gaming neck. Don't have a gamer neck. Gamer Neck?
Starting point is 00:43:54 No, there was that comment that was like, I'm surprised by the lack of Gamer Neck. Let me go sideways. The tiny chairs and stuff. This episode doesn't count if you're trying to critique my Gamer Neck. On like a normal episode, have a look. Do I have Gamer Neck, Jamie? Do I honestly have Gamer Neck?
Starting point is 00:44:09 I don't know what I'm talking about. No, because as gamers, you've got to be more concerned about, you know, your back. Yeah, if anything... I'm starting to feel like a finger strain from editing. Really? I get finger strain. I get like carpal time.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Oh, mid-Siv game. I'm like, ugh. You don't start, obviously. You just keep going. Until 2 in the morning. Well, this is the part of the cast. We'll be answer questions
Starting point is 00:44:35 from the JAR Media community. Do you want to leave your own questions for us to answer in the future? Head over to the suggestion thread. You can ask us whatever you feel like. R-slash-J-Media is going to start us off. Alex, if you're planning on answering this, please do it at the very beginning of the question segment
Starting point is 00:44:50 so that we can hear it in action. Jamie, for the rest of the cast and the foreseeable future, could you say amen to that whenever you agree with something or want to say yeah? And that ain't Christ-like whenever you disagree with something or want to say no. How do you feel about this, Jim? Who's this rude boy trying to give me instructions, gruff? Yeah, no, you don't take instructions from nobody, buff. That ain't Christ-like. Don't do it, Jamie
Starting point is 00:45:24 Who sounds the most fitting saying it You You say it That ain't very Christ-like of you, brother Ooh, that was really good Jim That's not Christ-like Might as it's got to be for James on this one
Starting point is 00:45:38 No, I was purposely making it good You just like whip me In a way to You know I can't do it No, because I will forget I will forget to do it I don't have the...
Starting point is 00:45:50 I felt like I was in the cathedral, brother. Well, that's not very Christ-like of you, James. Harry King says, What was the worst era of the internet, and why was it 2016? Because that's when we started making videos. Yeah. 2016 was a particular...
Starting point is 00:46:09 That era. That quadrant of the internet was a... was an interesting one. Was that... peak of the stuff we were saying about earlier, the, like, pranks and shit. Because that is the worst. Yeah, it was like pranks, it was, 2016, was
Starting point is 00:46:27 that, yeah, Trump. Trump being elected, yeah, to the rise of populism and everything. And the anti-SJW movement. Yeah, that was the worst bit. But was the, no, yeah. That was the worst era. It was
Starting point is 00:46:43 so divisive. Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, it was the problem that it wasn't divisive enough? It was just like there was one opinion that was just like everywhere and accepted and like wasn't scrutinized enough and it's finally been scrutinized some of it now.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah, maybe. That may be. Yeah, weird era. Totally weird era. But I'd say the worst era of the internet was before the internet existed. No, no, no, no. Because we didn't have it.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah. No, I disagree. You couldn't look up I'm rude boy. Yeah. Push your old table. Hey, Siri, define rude boy. No, surely that time must have been easier. Yeah, it would be a nice better.
Starting point is 00:47:23 You have, like, two-hour conversations in the bar of, like, what actor was in this, like, random show or whatever. Yeah, true. Conversation was way easier back then. Yeah, because you could just, like, waffle on about anything, but now it's like, yeah, what actually is, like, that it only grows in that one place? And you're just like... Oh, that's Foxglove?
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah, I'll find out for you. Hang on. Give me one second. No, give me three seconds. Yeah, and then you sit there afterwards, like... All right. know that now. Yeah. For five fucking seconds and then I forget about it.
Starting point is 00:47:52 That's why you have debates about something very specific than most people don't know. It's that thing of you know, like communication. It's not as important anymore. What do you think it's just as
Starting point is 00:48:08 important but we've kind of put less of value on the old communication? Now it doesn't matter who's saying it. What matters is the truth. Maybe that's a good thing. That's not true, though.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Do you know what I mean? The truth doesn't matter because people just forge the truth. Full guys, the movie, sorry, free guys, what's it called? That Ryan Reynolds movie. Freeman. That would be coming out if we were living in a just society. Should Ryan Reynolds play Gordon Freeman in a Half-Life movie? Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Only if the, the mustache or the facial hair is like really fake looking, then it would look awesome. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And everything has to be green-screened. And as long as he delivers everything in a certain way that only he can do, where, like, you know, every line he delivers is like the exact same, and he's always like the same character and everything he's ever in. Yeah. Like a true actor should be. Absolutely bonkers, mate, can bring us back a little bit to one of the sections from last episode.
Starting point is 00:49:15 The discussion of gender and sexuality on the latest cast had to... definitely stuck with me a lot. As a person who has always struggled with labeling myself, what Jamie said really resonated with me. I'd love to live in a world where you can just be. That's a quote of you, Jim. I've always been confused about my sexuality, and I never felt a full and strong attachment to the gender I'm supposed to be, but I find that it's difficult to describe or label how I feel. I settled on the idea of being non-binary and bisexual, but in all honestly, whenever the question, what is your gender identity slash sexuality comes up among people who are accepting, I would just say some variation of, who knows?
Starting point is 00:49:51 After years of trying on label after label, I realized that the idea of labeling myself was causing me such stress that I couldn't even properly explore who I am. I wouldn't experience an identity crisis, choose a label, then suffer, sorry, I would experience an identity crisis, choose a label, then suffer from an identity crisis because I didn't necessarily fit the label I chose, then repeat a hundred times. I discovered I really felt happiest when I simply label myself as myself and not be concerned about the semantics of my own being. It makes life a hell of a lot easier.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And it takes the rush out of self-discovery, allowing you to have a more enriched life experience. So that was my ramble. Here's my question. What sexuality at each of the Madagascar characters? So you know, no, do you know how ahead of the curve I've been? This is what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:50:35 How long have I just referred to myself as, I'm just James? I'm James. Yeah, you're, you're correct. That's exactly what I was just about to say. That's why I did the little finger point thing. I'm truly based. Because how many episodes was it ago we were talking about, like, what is it that to you makes you a man,
Starting point is 00:51:00 or what makes you associate with your gender? Because I've been thinking about it since then, I'm like, I don't really associate with any of the stereotypical, I guess, male attributes, whatever that means. I've never, that's never been like a big part of my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a man, you know? It's like, I don't know. Yeah, I think the less of that stuff there is, the better.
Starting point is 00:51:27 The less, like, to be a man, you don't have to know how to repair that. Change a tire. Yeah. Although, this man, man's fucking cold for that. Holy fuck. No, like, I don't, anything happens with my car, fuck knows. anything happens with the plumbing at home anything happens
Starting point is 00:51:51 ever I don't fucking know I ain't any less of a man motherfucker uh yes you are but I may be more of a woman there you go you just don't know but the thing is
Starting point is 00:52:07 nowadays you don't need to know those things because you can just pick up your phone and call with a plumber and they can turn up the same day to fix your shit no but ever since there's been plumbing there's been plumbers. All of this shit where there's like male
Starting point is 00:52:22 and female attributes. Oh, if you're a man and you like a musical you're not man. That makes you womanless. Like, fuck you. There are sects of men who believe that, um, like
Starting point is 00:52:38 grooming and um, you know, nice smells and keep yourself clean and um washing her face and cleansing or whatever. It's like... Like moisturiser. Moistrising, yeah, stuff like that. I fucking love moisturising.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah, fucking slap it all over. No, my dream is to get into, I mean, ideally a swimming pool, but a bath would be fine, a bath full of moisturiser. I'm just sitting there. Just like...
Starting point is 00:53:07 Until it's all absorbed and gone. Do you think there's any, like, psycho-rich celebrity that does just... Grenf Paolo or whatever her name is. Gwyneth Prow, yeah. Her pussy candle. She gets in the pussy bath.
Starting point is 00:53:23 She's probably got like a warehouse of like a hundred different swimming pools of different moisturised. She's got the like Mad Max like tit suck machines but for pussy juice instead. Like a warehouse full of pussy juice. Just making candles.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah. Harvesting the pussy juice. If those candles weren't so expensive I'd say someone to send them to the PO box so we could just have one of those fucking beauties burning away in the background. Do you know how much they actually cost?
Starting point is 00:53:51 So I try and... I'm just assuming it's expensive. Yeah, I... Imagine if you lit it up, though, and suddenly you, like, ascend to the ethereal realm. Wow, I really feel like I'm... No, I don't know. I really feel like I'm blessed.
Starting point is 00:54:10 So, um, they're roughly about 58 pound. Yeah, that's expensive for a candle. How are these tiny or big ones? Um No, how much pussy juice has been talking about? It just looks like a normal candle, but it just says this smells like my vagina. Specifically, Gwyneth Paltre is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Oh, so it's her? How much of her pussy juice has been harvested? It's just infinite. But then, um, in the Google image, like, suggested, there's Chris Witty candle. I'd much prefer that. That was amazing He came down from above What are we talking about
Starting point is 00:55:00 Sexuality or something What it means to be a man What it means to be anything Yeah like I said Once we're all uploaded to the internet Gender Sexuality None of it will be anything
Starting point is 00:55:15 We'll just be part of the combine from Half-Life 2. Just be you, you know? Yeah, just fucking play Halo 3 if that's what makes you happy. Well, speaking of playing, Max 09, Willow 24 says, question for James.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Do you play Sunday league footy of any kind? I show my mate a picture of you and he said him and his team played against you. No. I've never played a Sunday league. You don't have, like, a secret alter ego. You just... Yeah, like I'm a professional footballer. Jordan, the...
Starting point is 00:55:53 Michael Jordan. I don't play football. James is actually all the most famous Jordans in the world. Yeah. In his spare time. Yeah, why do you think we can only do, like, Jarvi-Jos on certain days? Because I'm flying around the world. I don't play football.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I just own football shirts. That's all. Why do you think none of us? like into football because we were losers is no are we losers because we're not into football or are we into football
Starting point is 00:56:25 because we're not losers so my theory with the sport thing is that I think you need you need like your team you need your hometown you need your no but we have a team we could attach ourselves yeah Swindon FC
Starting point is 00:56:40 no via our family like where we we came from. No, but this is what I'm saying. Are you talking about on an international level? No, on, like, what team would you mean? Well, I mean, rugby, obviously, we'd be for New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:56:57 But I mean, football, it'll be Liverpool. But yeah, you said football, not rugby. Yeah, football, Liverpool. Yeah, get out of here, not fucking Liverpool, let's say. Northern blood runs through our veins. Yeah, but Liverpool's shit. That's it. All the jar fans are all gone.
Starting point is 00:57:14 To me, I don't like the only. idea of just supporting somewhere because I was born there necessarily. No, but the idea of supporting a team is that you just attach yourselves to them. Because there's no point attaching yourselves to one, whichever one is just winning.
Starting point is 00:57:29 You just have to find a reason to attach yourself to any of them. No, because then you're a trophy hunter. You only support the team that wins because you want. Yeah, exactly. So there's no point in doing that. No. People do it. You have to attach yourself to but like I don't really
Starting point is 00:57:45 care. You've got to have an interest in it. I don't think I'm yeah but... You need to watch it and enjoy watching it and enjoy the stuff around it. Some people are really competitive too. I'm they get really into the whole thing. I mean when there are games on in the UK you hear like cheering all around the street I mean no people get really into it. You see it... Indian's pretty tame for you know that type of... No matter talking about like gender and stuff. What about nationality?
Starting point is 00:58:13 No, you know, if you're in the side, and there's a game on and like everyone's people are just fucking losing their minds over this football match or hooligans so we talk about like World Cup stuff or Euros you know it's the country's teams playing
Starting point is 00:58:29 not individually no even if it's like Manchester versus Liverpool that's not nationality that's his team no but it's still someone being so into this thing and all the people there are so into this thing and I'm not
Starting point is 00:58:44 because why do you think part of it is also for me and you specifically Jim our dad was like a sports guy or is a sports guy yeah that makes me wonder even more why we're we're you and I no but that makes me think is it like a oh maybe it skips a generation sort of shit you know yeah no I think it's just how much how proactive was he when you were young and making you watch massively he really wanted us to go into that sort of stuff we always encourage sports us to get into sports because it's a huge part of like New Zealand culture he was like a rugby player growing up
Starting point is 00:59:22 so where did it go wrong was it games if you didn't play games no my theory is that um I think moving around the country a lot as a child I think we stayed in New Zealand we probably would have settled on some maybe but I also think depending on the social groups or whatever
Starting point is 00:59:37 I think input from because our mother really doesn't give a shit about that stuff um but also i i just find myself way more interested in shit that isn't real fiction but i i've always like enjoyed sports but i never was interested in the competitive side i'm much more interested in the actual you physically doing it yeah i liked like athletics and swimming and i guess the boring ones well yeah like i i never got into playing like competitive sports but I was big into, like, going to the gym and shit.
Starting point is 01:00:15 So, no, but here's the thing. Obviously, my whole thing with cars is because, you know, I was brought into the family. From a young age, it was just like, oh, you're buying toy cars, you're helping me work on my car. So it was, like, in me from a young age that I must, I was just going to like cars because there's so much influence. But my parents hate football. They're not sport people, but I still like football. That's like the thing, though, isn't it? It's like, it's almost like a coin flip
Starting point is 01:00:42 where if you're going to be, no, I'm just going to reject whatever the thing my parents like, or I'm going to, like, I fucking love this thing. It's a nature versus nurture debate, and the answers are beyond us. You can just speculate or whatever. What a little monkey brains are up to? Yeah, but football's sick, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. No. It's the Euro soon, anyway. Yes. If you only started liking football because Mediterranean countries, they kind of care. like if you win
Starting point is 01:01:11 if they win the league you will be in bed at two in the morning and 15 million of them will be driving around honking non-stop celebrating going mental don't get that in England it's just like I remember it's so sad like I would only watch football games just for the hope of like
Starting point is 01:01:28 come on the country like needs this like people are fucking you know they're just like need a win it's like something for people to like cheer against them yeah tied to your apron as one question mostly for jim about a month ago i bought the dark souls remaster and played the game for the first time i instantly fell in love like james i'm not a gamer but i became extremely addicted to the game after i beat it i decided to pick up blood-borne as well and though i initially enjoyed it i found i've come i've found it's come to be quite monotonous the environments all just feel a bit too similar visually and enemy-wise and i found it's too easy to jet straight through enemies and head to a boss, even if it's overly far away. In Dark Souls, that sort of thing felt ritualistic and rewarding, but not so here.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I've currently hit a dead end where both paths I could take are blocked by bosses, and I don't feel particularly motivated to try and defeat any. It's a shame because I generally enjoyed Lovecraftian horror more than medieval fantasy, but here we are. What are your thoughts on Bloodbourne? And would you say the game is worth sticking it out? For reference, the two bosses I'm stuck on are, bear with me, Mergo's wet nurse and Abritus
Starting point is 01:02:41 Abritus Abritus? Abritus daughter of the cosmos I never finished Bloodborn Did you get to those bosses? Did you get that for? I never went against the wet nurse
Starting point is 01:02:55 I don't think I went against Abritus either That's all you need to know about the game then Yeah, only played it a couple hours I probably would have played if it was on if it wasn't stranded on PS4 Yeah, I definitely would have finished it multiple times if it wasn't stranded on PS4. But those criticisms, in my opinion, are totally valid.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Also, I think Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborn are all too easy. Do you think so? Yeah. So do you find it annoying that Bloodborn gets... I think Bloodborn gets jerked off... Yeah, for sure. Out of the modern ones, ignoring Dark Souls 1, it's probably the most jerked off one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Dark Souls 1 is way better than Bloodbourne. And I think Sekaro is way better than Bloodborn. So do you think it's that just impeccable art direction then or what? Um... It's like really got people in. I... Maybe because it's easier as well. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It requires... Maybe easier is the wrong word. It requires a different skill set to like... Well, because I did play a few hours of it. And I did not get the same. feeling that I got from Sekiro that was like oh yeah it's I need to see this through it's much less tight that the the the strategy you use in Bloodbourne to get through the whole game or as much as I've played never changes right it's a case of so I've I've I've I think it was in
Starting point is 01:04:27 Joseph Anderson's video he says something about this too about it being fairly easy yeah yeah Does it not have like those dungeons that are really hard though? The dungeons, well, the thing is, that's another thing that makes it easier because you can use the chalice dungeons to basically farm XP. Oh. And I did that a bunch and it made the game easier. For a game I was already finding quite easy. Also, it's got pretty bad bosses.
Starting point is 01:04:58 So it's got like really fucking good bosses, but a lot of them suck. like these big beasts that are in Bloodbourne oh yeah I did one where the camera was a real problem like just trying to attack it so much of it is just this big thing that you can't really you can't really tell what it's doing and it's flailing that is so many of the bosses in Bloodbourne and again it like it's not a bad game by any fucking means but it's stranded on PS4
Starting point is 01:05:22 I was going to try and reiterate it sounds like we're dunking on Bloodbourne yeah yeah it's just compared to maybe yeah compared to the tightness of especially Sekaro where like every single it's the guitar hero thing but like it's you're shown something and you have to choose the correct response Sekra has actually changed the way I play games now
Starting point is 01:05:45 like I'm actually search out challenge more as opposed to coast Yeah yeah Because that's that was my reaction to Dark Souls 1 And if if Bloodbourne was a lot of people's Like first entry point into that sort of thing then I mean that's really good. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:04 Bloodborn suffers in the departments I mentioned. Well, seeing as we're on this topic, Wonderful Fruit 554-3 asks, What are some video games that you think would make great movies? This question goes to anyone. None. Don't.
Starting point is 01:06:21 We're always talking shit about video games. There has to be a good idea, if I like, one of them. There has to be some way. There isn't. None. If it's a game, it's a game don't adapt it dude there has to be something hmm I'm struggling I mean I because I all the ones that are the the the
Starting point is 01:06:49 picked are always just the oh I hate that idea yeah a shot movie that's coming out this borderline's movie you know that probably makes the most sense because if that game is just a movie anyway so at least it would No, but that's why it doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's a game copying film, and then it's going to be a film copying a game copying film.
Starting point is 01:07:10 But then it's still a film, but then... No, the only thing that makes Uncharted good is the fact that you can play it. It's a playable Indiana Jones, and then there's taking the playable part out and just making it like a worse Indiana Jones. Yeah, but then that's better than what, though? What could be worse better? Well, it depends how much...
Starting point is 01:07:30 But honestly, I feel like this, this HBO Last of Us show, that has way more potential than any of these throwaway, like, Borderlands movies to me. Yeah, but it's Last of Us. It's like an old IP now, but like, fuck, dude. I have more faith in that than like this Mario Illumination movie. Even like when people were trying to sell this idea of a Mass Effect movie. No, terrible idea to me. because you'd have to make it so, like, hyper-specific. You'd have to, like, just set it somewhere in the MassFit universe.
Starting point is 01:08:06 No, the only thing that would... Yeah, it would all be so surface level. None of it will ever work, because you can't, like, bring a Torian into the, into the world for live action. It'd look fucked. But... I reckon you could do that now. But what would work is, like, some...
Starting point is 01:08:22 Like, following a Gaurus-type character as, like, a bounty onto an Omega or something. Like, kind of cyberpunky. You have to go in so deep. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. make it at that point? You could just make a cyberpunk kind of space.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yeah, and you could just make that a game anyway. They should. And it's the same of like there was the Bioshot movie too and another terrible idea. Just because the worlds are cool, I don't think it necessarily means it's going to translate to a movie.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Movies have certain limitations that games don't. Yeah, and when a bunch of your game revolves around developing this world that is interactable, specifically interactable. Yeah. And like, you, you can just take your time at any point to listen to audio logs or to read the codex or whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:07 You don't get that in a movie. That's probably why something like The Last of Us does work, because it's just kind of like a mini-series that you play. Yeah, yeah, totally. So it would adapt nearly one-to-one as just being like a show. But what would be the worst? No, what's the worst fucking movie game you can think of that would be... Boardlands? Tell me about, like, the idea of a Borderlands movie is actual, like, hell.
Starting point is 01:09:28 like uh yeah yeah it's fine in its video game realm it kind of well it's cringy but it like belongs there yeah for sure geese a geese of war movie would be fucking awful i don't know actually i think if if you got the right person attached to a gears film you could say the same for a lot of games i suppose because um halo halo had i feel like a chance it had an era yeah where Yeah, it was even building up to it at a certain point. That's what District 9 eventually became. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah, because it used like a bunch of unused shit from the like pre-production for that Halo, that Peter Jackson Halo movie, all the weird guns and stuff. But again, it would be tough. You're really fucking husking a lot. I genuinely don't think I can think of a single game that even like needs Fortnite that as a movie it exists yeah ready player one you said it you're like now movies like they're just becoming like they're all just becoming ready player one no I'm wondering if I should give a ready player one more credit
Starting point is 01:10:49 now because it's kind of a realistic future yeah yeah and it's really sad oh it's so sad It's depressing. Yeah. The second VR and Fortnite get combined, that's the end of the fucking world. Yeah, but then everything would be in the fucking shit Fortnite style. Like, that's death is easier than that. Yeah, but imagine seeing them fat asses in VR.
Starting point is 01:11:17 The Fortnite Xenomorph in VR? Oh, damn. Now we're getting somewhere. What about alien isolation as a movie? I'd prefer that. x then i might actually get through it sorry people actually like that game um i might try it properly at some point i might now that i've played through a bunch of resident evil yeah because when i tried to play it it was like i think i tried to play it on like the xbox one so it would have
Starting point is 01:11:44 been like locked 30 horrifying yeah yeah that was the scary bit i didn't even get to the alien when i played that game because there's this this is part early on where you could yeah these like robots you've got to like sneak around i personally um never find that gameplay where you've just got to hide from things and you've got no nothing i hate that that outlast style i don't really like i don't find it scary or fun or anything really i just kind of find it irritating i've tried playing out last too but it stresses me out i don't know why i want to be stressed out by a bit i just find it i don't know it doesn't work for me yeah present evil too that freaked me out that was like the tension I'm after, but there's something about
Starting point is 01:12:28 alien isolation that didn't work for me. It should do, I love alien. Yeah, and the fucking, like, graphics and shit. Mm-hmm. God damn. And wasn't it the Halo Wars guys who made that fucking game? Alien isolation? I'm pretty sure. What? No way. Yeah. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Halo Wars is the better game. Fucky. No, shut up. We already piss people. off with our game opinions. No, Halo Wars was great. No, mine are based. Yours aren't based? Halo Wars is a fucking shit game, mate. No, it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:13:04 You just weren't as good as us. No, I wasn't interested in playing with you guys because it fucking sent me to sleep every time I played it. We did play. Cocky, we've been and Alex thought they could beat me with Matt combined. Oh yeah. And we won.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Damn, yeah. I remember that. Yeah, so you can't even use the excuse that I was bad. No, because That's just the best moment in our gaming history is putting the gamers in their place. God damn it. Dinner dog says,
Starting point is 01:13:37 If I send you some super sour sweets, and I mean sour, I'm talking 10 times the potency of warheads slash toxic waste. Would you guys be up for trying them on video? They're so fucking sour, I could barely keep them on half from one of five seconds at first.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I'd send them straight from Amazon so you wouldn't have to worry about COVID-contactact. No, does this person think we're a bitch? We ate, we ate Scorpion on this fucking video. Yeah, we're gonna do 18 mini-roll challenge. That's gonna happen. I find it was sour. Yeah, I ain't, I ain't a bitch.
Starting point is 01:14:05 No, sour ain't shit to me. I think the only, like, taste thing that can go too far is heat. Yeah, send us some ghost chili speppers and scorpion. No, that's shit. Like, it just ruins you. Yeah. And it goes over your window, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Let's do a couple more then for we end. Josh underscore R 2002 says Howdy Mingers Longtime viewer first time commenter here I wanted to commune directly with Beast himself on this one Jim's ghostly encounter involving a scream at his place of work at 1am
Starting point is 01:14:38 has left me stumped for an incredibly long time and much like Jim I've been trying to rationalise it as well I think I might have a plausible answer for what the scream could have been it could quite possibly have been a deer to contextualize with my own experience One night I was walking home in the dark through the fields, I live in Britain, by the way, and I, too, heard a human scream.
Starting point is 01:14:59 It genuinely sounded like a woman screaming in pain slash fear. After a while, I glimpsed into the darkness and saw that it was a deer. It was running around incredibly frantically, and it spooked me so much that I genuinely ran all the way home. Therefore, Jim, if this incident happened in the countryside at night, I think it's possible that a deer came running past your place of work and let out a scream, as they seemed to do so exclusively in the wee small hours for some reason. and feel free to debunk me but hopefully this helps to explain the unexplainable
Starting point is 01:15:27 or perhaps Auntie Zula has finally caught up with you. Knowing that place I don't think that's possible. Yeah, I wish it could be explained away like that but it sounded inside the building. And I was inside. I wasn't out in a forest. I wasn't out in a field.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Yeah, and with either side of that place there's no way a deer can get there. So a main, like a road for a village and just while open field, have been close enough to sound like it's kind of from the building yeah yeah for sure people were staying in the hotel that night shortly that's the only thing that would make sense yet why would they scream at one in the morning down in downstairs where i was it was one door away that's the that was the sound did they look like the kind where maybe it was that good dick
Starting point is 01:16:20 No. Oh. It's been good dick. Why else would someone be screaming at one in the morning? I can't think of any other reason. Oh, oh, oh. Yeah, no, because it... Yeah, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:16:32 It wasn't like a pleasure moan. Right. It was like a ghost going... It was like a... Like, imagine if you were hit by a carriage and the wheel was going over your back. That sort of moan. Like an agony scream. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:47 God damn it No but I was thinking Isn't there this thing I should just share that memory with me So I could be like Yeah see This is what I mean In the future
Starting point is 01:16:57 When it's just all brainwave uploads Just be like Zoing And you'd be like Yeah that's someone getting that good dick Yeah No but isn't there food From my Einstein
Starting point is 01:17:07 Or something that there's like energy That kind of Yeah some people Believe that shit That makes sense This is the most fucked up thing though because I'm like the person that would never believe
Starting point is 01:17:21 in any of that trash and if I heard myself, if I went back in time and told myself, you're going to experience this thing and it's like a ghostly weird thing and I'm looking at my own face, I'd be like fuck you dude, you don't know what you're talking about. How does that not destroy your whole
Starting point is 01:17:36 worldview then? Um, it has and I've been spiraling ever since. See, it's just like Ven's ours. when do we experience the same thing when do we go into a building that has the ghostly or means ghost experiences are a wham yeah it's just you have to be in the white time
Starting point is 01:17:56 in the white place where someone died in a certain building at a certain time and it just their energy is left behind would you guys do a Ouija board in that building with me at night no I'm not no no I'll just know what if you hadn't had the experience yes
Starting point is 01:18:10 but now really really you won't because of I would I'd happily go there with people I don't think I could go there by myself No no you wouldn't have to go by it like You me and James Finger on the Ouija board
Starting point is 01:18:28 I could probably do that How about this though I think which is much scarier Let's say you go there To the location of this place You wait till midnight one in the morning And that's when you go out into that woods Where there's the story
Starting point is 01:18:44 of the hanging little girl or whatever There was no hanging little girl There's so much shit in that area It was the The number one place during World War II Where they stored ammunition In the UK So there's all these tunnels and shit
Starting point is 01:19:00 Underneath It's genuinely so creepy Do you know what's the worst about this Is I work next to it It's like up the road Dude We can go there I want to go there
Starting point is 01:19:13 Like when COVID it isn't a thing anymore. I want to go there. At night? Yeah. Do you tell you any of any thing you could do that, walk around that woods? I could not do it by myself.
Starting point is 01:19:23 No way. No, I die. I just kill myself, honestly. It's just like, no, I'm fucking out of here. Because you'd lose your car with and then you're lost in the woods and then it's like... That's what we deserve
Starting point is 01:19:34 is to be lost in the woods IRL. That's the meme, isn't it? It's like the white guys that like... Yeah. They hear the scary noise and they're like, let's go investigate that. Let's find out what that. creepy shit what's yeah I would do it
Starting point is 01:19:46 but it's just like I'd have to sleep at one of your houses if we do see anything after I'd have to be cutting when people are together and all it takes is for one of them to be scared and it spreads it would be me I'm the empathy of that fear like it's such a like powerful emotion
Starting point is 01:20:02 no but it's a good jar with you hello guys yeah if we get like a night vision camera yeah but then then we'll see nothing we'll upload the vision and be like They're trying I can see something
Starting point is 01:20:15 Fucking That is something That is something that's actually scary There Harrow Brian Yeah No Like if you were to take a picture
Starting point is 01:20:23 Like in some old Like shack And then you're like Wait what's that in the corner Yeah I find that I do really creepy There's that horror movie That does it
Starting point is 01:20:33 Um The cut over in spill wrote Oh really Yeah I can't remember what it's cool It's got the stupid It's called like Beguel or something.
Starting point is 01:20:45 But that was the idea. It's like Ethan Hawke, like, watching like old film reels and trying to find Begul and then he does something creepy. I probably talked about it on the cast, but the scariest moment in my life was when I was just on my phone film pictures, and I started to notice those of pictures I never remember taking.
Starting point is 01:21:03 So, and they were, they were black. They were black, so I was just like... Yeah, because that was all so creepy about when Slender Man's first started popping up. That was his law, wasn't it? It was like these old pictures of like, what's that creepy guy in the background? Yeah, but, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I looked these pictures and it's just like my heart fucking stank and I sank and I started to panic. And it's just because they were all black screens or white screens, but they look like my womb. So I was just like, if I click this and there's something there, I'm just fucked. But it turned out, they were all of my bedstreet
Starting point is 01:21:33 or my room. I was asleep and taking pictures of my womb and my bed sheets and I was just like, but I saw them and I was like, what about if something's that? or about if there's actually something in these pictures it's just like, I'm fucked, I'm not moving
Starting point is 01:21:46 going in my room ever again, I'm moving out. Yeah, but you've got a house that would like, it's just not haunted. No, because it's a new build. Yeah, relatively. And then I'm on the top floor. Maybe it was built on like a Saxon burial site.
Starting point is 01:22:03 No, but I find ghost stuff really interesting, but it's just like I'm a fucking pussy. I'm going to fucking cry in that shit if I ever experience. No, I feel like my experience with it has made me way more open to like aliens and shit, just anything.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Well, yeah. It's like, okay, so it's just straight a real bro, the US government's just like... Yeah, this monophones are just like... Yeah. Should we... No, why doesn't jar people send us their ghost stories?
Starting point is 01:22:27 I mean, we... Why are you sending us UFOs? We'll weed your ghost stories while around the pussy juice candle. Yeah, with the Ouija board. Yeah. Captain Goatsy can send us away.
Starting point is 01:22:41 No, actually no, wait. If we hit X-Gar on Patreon we'll go to the woods by the pub and do a spooky video. I'm getting scared just thinking about... Yeah, let's do it. Fuck. Let's fucking do it.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I'll need cuddles for like a year, I don't think of surviving that. Captain Goatsy can send us away then. Thoughts on the villains in the new space jam being called the Goon Squad. Wise up Gooners. I think they're called that in the original too, right? Are they?
Starting point is 01:23:14 I don't know. Let's say they're not, because it's just fucking annoying. Like, every... Speaking of fucking Ready Player 1. This trailer just looks like Ready Player 1. Jesus Christ. Nine Giants there again. Yeah, everything's just got to be like...
Starting point is 01:23:28 Wait, look, there's that. And this too. Oh, that thing I know. Yeah, you remember this one? No, fuck you. I don't remember shit. Get some damn integrity. Anything I remember is Ryan Reynolds.
Starting point is 01:23:42 running around GT Online. Yeah. No, we're going into a place where like we're so void of new ideas. It's like, fuck, what video game
Starting point is 01:23:56 doesn't have a shit story that we can just make into a movie? No, no, it's not even that. It's just what video games have not been movies yet? Yeah. It doesn't matter if the stories are. Mortal Kombat doesn't have a movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:08 It doesn't even matter if they did. Mario had a movie. Mortal Kombat had a movie. movie. They're going to do a movie for that Xbox original game that was going to compete with something else. A cameo movie or some shit.
Starting point is 01:24:19 What's it called? You played it? Oh, too human. Two human? Two human. It's too human. When we get the two human game coming out, we know there's problems.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Do you think they only made that franchise so they could call the sequel T-W-O-Human? Two-Human. Two-Human. And have it like co-op. So it was two humans. Don't Microsoft don't listen to this place They've got that kind of bullshit money
Starting point is 01:24:47 Where they all greenlight something that dumb Yeah And we can sue them for creating their idea No that's what we should do with this What is it? Jam Jam Ajar jam
Starting point is 01:25:04 No the Space Jam Yeah they've taken that from us everything takes from us yeah we we say goon the the world says how long we say that all the time welcome to the jam yeah yeah that's another one but it's like
Starting point is 01:25:24 Space Jam is such a time capsule movie you can't you can't make another one you fucking can't and when you try it's gonna be cringe it's just like trying to make another shred the first one was cringe yeah yeah but that's why it's so it's like such unique cringe that you could not get again. That soundtrack,
Starting point is 01:25:41 the actors that are in it, like, the look of it and everything, it's such a fucking, this perfect. Isn't Bill Murray in it? Yeah, Bill Murray's in it. I want to say Melman, but he's not called Melman. He's the guy from Simon. Newman.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Newman. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. The whole time we've been talking that four guy, three guys has just been in the back of my fucking head. You want to talk about free guys? Because we watch that trailer.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Free guy? We watched that new trailer right before we started recording or whatever. Okay, here's an ultimatum. You have to see one at the cinema. The free guy or the hitman's wife's body guy. The hitman's wife's bodyguard.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Fuck. That's genuinely like really difficult. isn't he? I'm sick. Yeah, but Samuel Jackson will carry that one. I think I'd rather see Fall Guy's a movie or whatever,
Starting point is 01:26:44 a free guy. No, no, the Hitman's Bodyguard. The Hitman's Bodyguard is one of those kind of movies where it's like, it is so boring, but there is nothing to it where it only exists
Starting point is 01:26:57 because it's like studios looking at, right, who is number one right now, you know? And then just assembling this fucking awful show. and then making a sequel to it. Yeah, but Free Guy.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I think Free Guy will be so, so bad. Like, one of the worst films ever made. I think it's going to be that bad. And everyone's always like, oh, Jim's thing against Ryan Reynolds is just like a joke thing. It's like, no, look at his project. Look at what the fuck he's doing with his life. But say, like... He's living in his fucking mansion
Starting point is 01:27:37 on Instagram with his fucking yeah Yeah Deadpool 3 coming soon Marvel MCU epic Oh my God, yes I hope they remake endgame But stick in
Starting point is 01:27:53 No no that this is a whole new option They can do like Endgame from Deadpool's perspective Ooh Now this I like Captain America of Civil War From Deadpool's perspective
Starting point is 01:28:05 How are they going to bring back Iron Man? Deadpool's like... Deadpool's Iron Man. Hey guys, nobody likes that Iron Man died. And then he goes back and just pulls him out of the script or whatever. Because that's the Deadpool thing, isn't it? No, he would go... He would like time travel to when Iron Man's going to click,
Starting point is 01:28:22 and then he like stops him and takes the thing off him and becomes Iron Man, and then Deadpool's Iron Man. Oh, shit. Edit this bit out and then just send out. Email that to Disney. I won't edit any. I'll just send that clip to them and Disney Plus trailers just
Starting point is 01:28:39 going to go up. Yeah, faxed them that video. I think we're done here, guys. Yeah. Now more four guys for this episode. Yeah, stay tuned for a free guy live action recreation of ghost
Starting point is 01:28:55 stories in the woods. Thanks for watching everyone. We'll see you in the next one. I'm going to be able to be. Thank you.

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