JAR Media Posdact - Two Tall, One Small - JARcast Episode 231
Episode Date: June 14, 2021https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 02:57 Housekeeping 13:33 James' Thoughts on (Bad)da...na' 19:03 Thoughts on jpegmafia 20:49 Legend Of Korra, AtLA 25:59 Jackass 30:09 Youtube Prank Era 31:59 Warhammer II, 40k and Civilisation 43:26 Midroll 44:38 Reddit Questions 46:10 2016 YouTube 48:32 Jamie x Ryan Reynolds OTP 49:23 Sexualty RE Last Cast 52:44 Male Healthcare 53:57 Interesting Candle 55:38 Sunday League Footy 1:02:33 Opinions on Bloodborne 1:06:15 Good Video Game Movie Ideas?? 1:13:40 Super Sour Sweets 1:14:41 Ghost Time 1:23:06 Goon Squad PO Box: IHE PO Box 4268 CALNE SN11 7AY
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Anyone but me
Good afternoon morning, evening or night
Ladies and Gooners of the world
I'm Alex and this is episode 131
of the Jail Media Positac
Every week
Every week since being back we've got it wrong
it was because I
make such a mental note of like
right there's one particular detail
don't get that bit wrong
so then my brain gets everything
everything right
but that
yeah yeah so what
it's actually two three one
check the number and everything
I'm your host Alex
joined by
uh hmm
Tyler Durden down here
good afternoon morning evening
all night
how's your IKEA furniture
getting on my friend
I love it
I love IKEA furniture
I represent IKEA furniture
in every part of my life
What about you, gamer, Jim?
Who?
I mean Jim?
Yeah, I don't have IKEA furniture.
There you go.
This is the cast
Before we get too deep into it,
I want to shout out the Jammeda Patreon
that made the audio version of the show possible
and have your names read out in the first week of every month.
Game a neck aside,
I'm feeling okay on this Friday
We're having a heat wave in the UK
It's feeling pretty sweaty
It's a bit cooler today
Is it actually a heat wave?
Because this just feels like
Kind of a summer
Like not necessarily
Yeah I mean it is June
Right
Yeah
Yeah it is June
So this is just summer
But it's actually quite
But it's been
It's been really hot
But it's also been really overcast
And moggy
Today yeah
It's been particularly humid
So it's
It's like swamp crotch central.
Yeah, it's not the most pleasant.
It's not the type of every do a walk in.
Not that.
No.
Too sloppy.
Yeah, we don't want to anyone here in shorty shorts.
You guys not fans of shorts?
Um, I would have worn shorts had I known, um,
Tyler Durden wasn't going to have dinner with me.
You preoccupied, my friend.
Tyler
this is quite an intimidating
like
angle to be at
because it's like
looking down
it's just bullying
yeah
yeah
you just instinctually
want to just start
bullying
yeah
it's just like
about being up here
I just want to
start just going in
yeah
is like
is that why
I'm tall people
like have like
a complex
of being a cunt
like
during their
years
yeah
well
let's do some
housekeeping
dutty house
dutty house. Oh, is that what it's called now?
Well, the house is dutty and it needs to be...
Dutty house clean up Gamer Neck section.
Yeah.
This is where we go to the comments from the last episode and just see what people are thinking,
what the general discussion was, you know?
Whole 9,000's going to start us off.
I went back and watched the Yogs when, with Argi's initial debut in it,
and it's kind of crazy to see the character arc that boys had throughout the years.
He started off as a hot-shot little goober
who had no respect for anyone
Then was taught a lesson and humbled by
The unconventional mentor figure of Max
Which is my golden retriever
Kind of like Yoda teaching Luke
Then he suffered the loss of his master
And now, as a wise and old sage
Must instruct Paisley on the journey has gone through
The cycle of life is real
And it's effing funny
I disagree with that
Because he hasn't
How he was described as a puppy
He still is
No, but he has, he has gone through that.
He had his master...
He did.
But now he's...
He's had an arc, it's just not perfectly...
It's more nuanced than this person would lead you to believe.
And he's teaching Paisily.
He's like, um, Han Solo, more so, I'd say.
He's like a hot shot asshole type.
Who's Han Solo's master?
Woody Harrison?
Yeah.
No, but I mean, minus that bit.
Like, his character archetype is hot shot asshole.
And he doesn't just stop being a hot shot asshole, because that's who he is.
But he learns to sort of exist within a...
A galaxy?
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's go with that.
He's just...
He's carrying on his bad habits to Paisley.
So he's teaching Paisley the Wong things.
Like eating your own shit.
So there were a few questions.
regarding this a bi-pan thing we were talking about um at one point in last episode
will d is going to start us off there's kind of a difference between buy and pan although they're
both trans inclusive but they're both arbitrary labels in the end in practice a bi person can be
attracted to exactly the same people as a pan person so it's really just a matter of which label
you prefer this is a big point of discussion in online LGBT plus groups and it's honestly a big
waste of time jim was right and saying labels are stupid and jack says thanks boys for the
frank and confident discussion about sexuality
that seriously made me feel more comfortable about myself
and it was also very funny top-tier segment and thanks again
you're welcome
I'm glad no there was a very good response to that subject
and I'm glad that people were saying that
just like buy is trans exclusive and that's
it's just like a you know you you you refer
in what way you prefer trans or you know pan
you like what you like whatever yeah
Uh, Jack says, oh no, sorry, no, I really just read Jack's one.
Wow Jar really left one, uh, regarding Jim's claim about an eagle.
Um, just want to say that Jamie's claim that an eagle wouldn't be able to fly
if it was the size of a bear, it's probably wrong.
I'm almost certain that an eagle of that size would still be able to fly.
My case and point, quetzoculatus.
Let me try that again.
Quetzel coattlus.
that was another one I was like
when I screenshoted that question I was like
practicing like how to say
because I can say it
what is it quite so
it's like a big
prehistoric
teradactal type thing
yeah there was some fucking huge
like this prehistoric creature
a type of teradactal was most likely
able to fly due to its hollow bones
much like modern birds and it was the size
of a fighter plane in World War II
yeah look up a photo it's terrifying
yeah some of them were absolutely huge
yeah but
they're not the proportions of an eagle
no but in saying that
there were prehistoric eagles
that were about the size of rhinos
those being the hussed eagles
I think we actually mentioned on Jara a long time ago
and they were native to New Zealand
and they hunted mowers
because they had to be big enough to take down mowers
yeah mowers a big bird
yeah mowers are huge
Google one of those
yeah yeah were huge sorry
I think you can see
one of their bones in the Nutri History Museum
I can't remember
Yeah, I think you're right
The thing is what it comes down to is that
I'm, you're wrong
And I'm right
I want to see it happen
You want to see a bird the size of a bear
Fight me
Yeah, because you're so confident on this
That you could just fight an eagle normally
I just need to see this
There were a couple more little ones here
Someone said
Does anyone know what Alex is always looking at
probably referring to the way I always go
but I keep aiming it wrong
because I look at like the TV that's streaming
what our camera can see but it's in the wrong place
they can't know that though
yeah like if we don't look at the camera
we're probably looking at the TV of ourselves
and yeah speaking of the camera
Georgie said lighting is depressing
as is this episode might want to make it a bit warmer
and like more bright
on the bright side Jim looks a little too nice
in a hat
There's no such thing
It's too nice
But I don't know what to do about lighting
I don't
I don't
Yeah
None of us have done a PhD in lighting
Or masters
It's super hard to get right with the
Especially when like
The third light broke
The room is
Is different
We literally went out of our way
To upgrade our lighting
To make it better
A week after the third one just broke
We just do things to improve it
And it always breaks
Yeah
and like we have all the main lights
right next to the camera and stuff
it's like not ideal in terms
of getting it perfect but
we'll get there someday
but I don't how was last episode
depressing? Oh you know
it's like that jar thing where they just like leave
a comment saying like I don't the worst one yet
I know I understand that
but
it wasn't depressing I swear
I don't know I thought it was really
um it's pointless
yes but by that um
stress
then nothing is worth nothing is worth apart from this one from Josh saying just
get some beam bags I would love for that to be possible my only concern
with beam bags would be the constant noise yeah but they're not good for noise yeah
and they're not comfortable either well they're comfy you used to have a
beanbag and I don't recall any of us ever using it
during JAR.
Yeah, we didn't.
It was the really big,
it was the level one.
Yeah, because it just,
the sound.
Actually, I'm pretty sure.
If we go back,
there might be one episode
where we actually do.
Yeah, there might be.
It's entirely possible.
I've got a hazy memory of that.
I just don't remember early Jard at all.
It was a long time ago now.
Well, yeah.
When did we start when David Bowie died?
That's how I always remember it.
2016
yeah
yikers
I can't remember
but it's like I
hope people don't think
this is like a permanent setup
no I think we like this one right now
yeah I'm fine with this one
let's do a quick jar vote
all in favour of um
yeah
we can put their arm highest as he wins
yeah
you're not going to try
that's fine
for those listening
um Alex and I put our hands much higher
than James.
Let's end this segment with this one from
Ayamu Paya.
This is very out of place, but I'd like to
personally thank Alex for getting me into
talking heads. It is such a great band.
I'm immensely grateful. Your taste and music
is amazing. Thank you.
More comments that jerk me off,
please?
The jerk off comments.
No, but seriously, the reason
I brought this up was to transition
into topics.
speaking of talking heads
oh no
what do you mean or no
I don't like where this is going
no I somehow didn't know that in
2008
David Byrne and Brian Eno
got back together to do
an album
called everything that happens
will happen today
and I don't really love the whole album
but it has a certain song on it called Strange Overtones,
which just sounds like it's just capturing that sound
from the 80s, from that, I can't remember what it was called.
I'm so bad remembering all these names,
my brain's just so full of shite.
Remain in light, because that was the previous one
they worked together on, but yeah, I'd recommend that.
It's a really, really good song in particular,
Strange Overtones.
you should give it a listen bro yeah i will what's the album called the album is called everything
that happens will happen today yeah just want to throw that out there is his solo stuff worth
well yeah i've been going through his solo stuff too um well and he did a co-lab album with st vincent
who i've listened to a little bit of before is st vincent in the latest guerrillas album yeah yeah
Yeah, she is.
What I've heard from that is actually really good.
It's got some really, really strong songs on it.
Weird combination, but it does work really well.
Yeah, I'd recommend that too.
I'm trying to remember what it's called.
What about you guys?
Anything new?
Anything fresh?
I've been listening to a fair bit of music.
Sorry, it's called Love This Giant.
Is that David Bowen?
sub what are you saying bro um i want to throw james on into the the flame into the bus into the
flame here we go this is every week it's just the bully james segment well there's no better
episode for the bully james segment you might as well get it all out the way now no i just
want to i want to hear your honest and uh you know thought through opinion
on the album
You're not
You might get an honest
But you won't get a fork through
Or whatever
What's the album
A Bandana by Freddie Gibbs
I just want James
To make this
Opinion public
When it came out
Did you listen to it when it came out
Yes
Do you know
Because on Twitter
Everywhere
Every single post was about Bandana
Really?
Everywhere it was on the news chat
When did it come out
2019
Okay
So but
Obviously, Freddy Gibbs, one of his songs was in GTI-5, and that's how I originally knew him.
Wait, which song of his was in GTIA-F-D?
He's not hit. He's just on a song.
Oh, he's a feature.
So I've known about him, but I'd never actually listened to any of his albums prior to Bandana.
I listened to Bandana.
And I was really disappointed.
How much of it did he listen to?
I gave up after the third song.
The third song?
Hmm.
this is a thing with albums do you think it's
do you think you can judge an album from like the first few songs
like the whole thing i don't think you can even judge an album from one listen of the whole
album i i agree no i there are so many times where i would disagree because sometimes
from the first outset of an album you get a vibe of that album the the mood that album's going
for a vibe doesn't hold as strong there was no but cohesive no but you can kind of you kind of
know what's, what the sound is, you know, what the, like, good kid, mad city, you can tell
from the start of that type of vibe that the album has. And that's, that's kind of how I'd
base off albums. It's just like, you know, if the first few songs have a white vibe,
then I will listen to all of it. Like, shadow of a doubt. You see, I didn't think you
listened to, um, albums chronologically. I do when I'm at my desk and I'm actually on
Spotify because then I can
yeah like other times not
so much sometimes if it's just
like Spotify mobile because I don't have premium
you can only shuffle
it so but I do know
like listening to it in chronological do it
make sense in an album sense
that you're actually going through it the experience
but at the time of the first time I listened to bandana
like I don't know if this
was before after I had the binge of
MF Doom but obviously
madly had done those
production on his albums as well.
So it might be why I just didn't
gel with it at the time. But obviously
I've recently gone through most of Freddy's
discography. And there's
loads of albums I do like Fritty.
I think you should give it another
good. Do you like Alfredo? Yeah, there's
a few songs that are quite good in Alfredo.
I like Alfredo. I don't think I've listened
to Bandano. What's that other one?
I don't know. It's the pink background
and he's wearing like a zebra.
Freddy, yeah. Yeah, that's a very
I like a few songs on that as well.
That song, that album is quite obnoxious.
You know, it's from that era of rap that's just like, bass cranked to the max.
Yeah.
And, like, that's basically it.
Shadow of, I like that one, yeah.
I like Shadow of a doubt a lot.
I think that's my favourite of his.
So I think the first three songs of that, just they completely slap.
They've got the white vibe and everything.
Is there a chance you'll go back and listen to it now that you've matured,
then yeah probably I think you should because my music taste has changed a lot since like
since 2019 I've just grown and matured a lot so I actually appreciate production more
than ever did and I kind of actually listened to lyrics and I was listening
through it and I was wondering if if the reason it didn't gel with you is like the
use of vocals in the production how so what's different of
Well, you know, in the beat when you have, like, sort of a repeating voice,
like a woman singing or something?
No, I don't think that.
Yeah, sort of like crazy frog or something.
Yeah.
No, I don't think, I don't, I don't, I've never really noticed that when my first listen.
I just think there was something about the production of the time that I didn't appreciate
and it just didn't vibe, I didn't vibe with, so I just didn't listen to it.
Because this might have been a phase when I, like, I was listening to Nine Inch Nels a lot.
but I'm like I'm super expecting that kind of production
so I might have just not clicked with it at the time
yeah because that's that's the band that I can't really
I've never found I've never geled with them
in particular time yeah I came in through
like movie scores and went in yeah yeah that way
and I came in at the the start when it was just pure absolute 80s edge
and that's one I've actually gone to actually appreciating
his production is generally incredible he's yeah
That new song with Health
Have you listened to that yet?
I like it a lot
Yeah, it's amazing
It's a great song
Because Health did one with JPEG as well
I think Meg Mafia
which is also very good
I also like Peggy a lot
I do really like some of
JPEG Mafia stuff
Yeah I've never gotten in
He's Grime, isn't he?
Got him, no
What's JPEG Mafia?
He's in The Grisome
Oh, the one with the Japanese
He's...
Yeah, he's a bit of a weeb.
Is he?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, what genre is he?
He's just rap.
Okay.
You see, this is me showing my ignorance, because I thought English rap was just grime.
He's not, he's American.
He's American.
Yeah, he's the only went, even was saying that he went to, he, the military recruited him from, like, school.
And he did it, hated it, and then he just bought music equipment.
Right.
right that's how I know that's the thing he's taught I don't know why I associated him with
um Britain then no it might have just been because all the names I think it's because you were
listening to a lot of grime at the time I might have grime at the time and then uh yeah and then
also JPEG mafia so I just sort of lumped him in lumped him in yeah he's got a really good
bald is his best song because it's got a sample from which racer so obviously I was going to click like
damn no but I didn't do it for the first
time I was like a fucking I know this is just my childhood what the fuck and I was
going through my YouTube likes to find that one song that sample is from and now
that that that song it's now like millions of views because of the sample and it's
like JPEG JPEG but I do recommend listen to Peggy as oh he's very good I was
seeing as we're on this topic any other goodies to throw out there I've got
something I've been watching I kind of want to throw out specifically for the cast
Yeah, go for it
I mentioned
like Avatar
The Last Airbender
and how much
I enjoyed that
I went on to watch
The Legend of Cora
Kind of follow up
loosely attached
New series
I think it's more popular
than the original
Do you think so?
I kind of have the opposite thing
going on with it
I've just given up on it
I'm just straight up
just not going to finish it
I watched the first season
and the first
third, two thirds of it is pretty weak stuff
like it's all just like love triangles
they introduce this weird like sport thing
and it's all about this like sports
using their avatar powers and it's like
contrasting this against Last Airbender
every episode is like a new story
it's like self-contained but it's advancing a plot
there's so many good characters
like it's just so fucking genius
so then go into this
it's like, it's just not the same.
It's not funny either,
which is a huge thing about the original avatar.
It's actually funny.
Like, it's genuinely funny.
I laugh out loud, like, a lot at that show.
It's the perfect tone.
Whereas, uh, core is a bit more,
I don't know, it's a bit more edgy, I guess.
It's more...
Yeah, I get the edgy vibe on that compared to the original.
But even, like, it doesn't even have the,
the awesome martial arts action stuff
in the same way because it's always kind of ruined by like stupid like robot enemies or like kind of
bad simplistic CG cars driving around and stuff like it's just not in the last airbender like
original show and the main actually the main thing that stopped me watching was um there is a huge
decrease in the animation quality from season one to season two so severe that it's like
it pulls you out so much and the linework is
so obviously worse and I was like
it can't just be me who feels this
so I like Googled it and found
like people have made like comparisons
of just... I think when you're watching
stuff like animation I think a massive
dropping quality from season to season is
the biggest turn off and it's just so strange coming
from The Last Airbender where it just gets better
as it goes along like
the animation gets better because they have more of a budget
they had room to explore the story
whereas like the first
season of Cora it starts
getting interesting and like the last third of that
first season you're like oh cool this is actually like starting to build up now there's a sense
in momentum building but then in the last episode they just wrap everything up super clean and then
in season two it's just like something completely different something new and it's like
so yeah none of this is what made the last ever been good so I just don't really care even though it
does have some cool characters in there like um jk simmons plays like uh one of avatars like
descendants and he kind of looks like him but he's like grown up that's cool um it does have
some cool stuff in there but it just doesn't work as a whole
and I'm kind of really disappointed
because I really
I can't stop thinking about the last
airbender I love like a good hero's journey
and the fact he's like a monk and like
the just the peace having to come up against the
conflict is just such a good like idea to me
yeah I've been watching a bit of it
the last airbender that is
yeah
and I'm I'm sad
I didn't have access to it when I was a kid
I think it would have been my shit
it would have been my whole
I was obsessed with Star Wars as a kid
if I'd have
I genuinely think Disney
for these new trilogy should have used the last
Bender, the Last Air Bender is more of a model
of what to do with their characters
because the terrible new Star Wars trilogy
tries to hit similar beats
that are just masterfully
achieved in that
children's show on Nickelodeon
which kind of puts other stuff
to shame. Yeah, I really
enjoyed it. I'm a real big fan.
As far as a kid's show goes, it's
is pretty much flawless.
Like, I mean, to the point where
I was waiting for there to be a bad episode
and every time I was like on the edge of like
this might be a bad episode. Then it like would do
something, it would reveal something, the story
would like go back on itself and
and it feels like the lessons it
it tells, like through its morals and stuff,
are actually valuable things for people to learn.
Yeah, like the philosophy behind it all.
You could be like 80 years old,
watch this show and you'd learn something, you know?
Yeah, it has one of my favorite characters,
just the uncle character in that show.
I'm just obsessed with that character.
I think he's so interesting.
He's like an old general who, like,
like, fucked up.
But now he's like trying to redeem himself
through his family.
Yeah, a huge fan.
It's on Netflix.
If you haven't seen it,
I'm late to the party on this one,
but yeah, totally.
Any other goodies to throw out there
before we go to the mid-break?
We've been watching, as a unit,
Jackass has been coming up quite a lot.
Yeah.
Classic MTV nutters.
It's been kind of a nostalgic,
experience for me
Rediscovering Jackass
It's weird because growing up
You watched them
I must have been in like
Early secondary school
When they were coming out
So it was that perfect kind of age
It was like gross out edgy stuff
And then you kind of forget about it
When you grew up a bit
But going back to it
It's still really funny
And there's a lot of charm to it
And of course
The like crudeness is
Is part of the humor
But yeah
What do we watch the
We watch TV
but you guys also watched three and i've seen them more millions of times
yeah i've seen them all quite a bit but it's just like going i last saw them probably when
i was 16 17 so going back now 24 it's like it's just fucking funny it's so fucking funny
they're all so funny yeah it's it's they found the perfect middle ground between
horrible yeah and actual torture and like just having a laugh
sort of thing.
Yeah, because when you
I got into like
Stivo's YouTube channel
and all of these like
you know
like wired interviewing
fucking Stivo
and Johnny Knoxville
about their injuries and all that
so you get like a bunch of information
through it and like
there's a bunch of crazy shit
that went on and like the behind the scenes of all this
especially hearing Stivo's like
his whole life story
grapple with addiction in particular
it's all on his YouTube channel
because he's so insane
he's like recorded all of it too
so he has all this B-roll
whenever he's referencing like
yeah there was this time I was fucking
having an intervention with people that
weren't even there because it was so fucked up
and then he like cuts to the footage of it
and it's like oh my god he's like not even lying
like the kind of shit he comes out of his mouth
you wouldn't believe if it was a normal person
but he's got all the evidence since like him
he's an insanely interesting person though
I think all of them
they're just a group of people
that were like meant to do this
it was like they're calling in life
the only one I would say where the
humor is a bit more like
almost on the verge of being like just straight up
dark is Bam and Bam's shit
with his parents yeah
and that's the one where that's come up recently
where Bam is
he's addicted he's an alcoholic like bad alcoholic
yeah there's all these clips of him like posting on social media
about how he's been kicked off of the new jackass
because they're making a new movie somehow
yeah somehow he would have seen how that's
to come together but I actually um I checked out stevo's like comedy special called Nali
yeah yeah um I like stevo a lot but I I don't know if I can even really call it stand-up
because what he kind of does is he just like describes his life it's almost like a cheat code
he's just like just saying like what happened to him and like that is funny because it's just
so insane his life is insane it's like not writing joke it's just like a
describing what his...
Did you laugh, though?
I did laugh, yeah, but
I wouldn't call it like a
great stand-up special or anything.
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, like, more reliant on his insane life
in the clips, and there is kind of a cringy part
where he brings out that guy from Jackass 2
who does the, like, terrorism skit.
Mm-hmm.
And he, like, uh, Stivo shaves his pubs on stage
and, like, sticks them to his face.
There's, like, a reference to Jackass 2.
Which is just like, you know
Yeah
The reference shit
It's not like
It would be more shocking
To like actually be there
Yeah
It's kind of a
When you're watching it on a screen
It's like a bin there done that
Yeah
But yeah
But yeah
I'm curious to see what a new one is like
It just seems like such a 90s
2000s thing
Yeah
Yeah
Because it shifted on YouTube
Into like the whole
The pranks
The prank is your Sam Peppers
and everything
He was just doing things that are horrible or just completely fake.
Yeah, because I was telling you guys earlier,
I was reminded of that Sam Pepper stunt
where he just, like, convinces his friend
that he's been kidnapped and he's just like killing his friends around him and stuff.
I'd forgotten about that fucking era.
Yeah, it was actually out of control.
That's my biggest worry about Jackass 4 is like re-invigorating
that sort of content on YouTube.
Well, it's impossible on YouTube now.
Yeah.
You can't make your way with it.
It sort of existed, though, like, because it could on YouTube.
It was like there were no limitations.
Here's Filthy Frank, like, eating a rat in the streets of Japan.
Yeah.
But then you got, like, genuinely awful shit, like the, what's his name?
Like, father of five, daddy of five.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, it started with, like, Filthy Frank doing weird shit.
And then it progressed to just, like, people being openly racist.
Just pushing it.
Yeah.
But maybe Jackassful brings balance back.
It is the old school and that's what people have want.
They want that old school.
I mean, it's no different to like what every other company is doing like Disney and shit.
Like, hey, it's like that thing you remember from the 90s, but now it's the cool 20-21 version.
Yeah.
Power Puff's Girls live action fucking show or some shit.
Well, like Cowboy Bubeops Netflix show.
That is going to be shit.
No, it is.
It's going to be absolutely true.
The appeal of that anime is like its whole vibe, the whole soundtrack, the whole visual style.
Animation, the style of it.
You can't replicate that.
That is the thing that can exist in anime and should only exist in the anime.
And that incredible music, too.
Incredible soundtrack.
So, I'll add this out briefly.
We talked about Grand Strategy Games not long ago on the cast about civilization.
And I decided to pick up Warhammer 2, Total War.
there you go
yeah incredible
I don't think I could really go back to civilisation
because it gives
you that same satisfaction you get from SIV
and you know all of the systems
are a lot deeper you know the combat
is really deep and there's loads of
I don't know what the word is
there's just a lot there
and I think it does everything that SIV does
just better in every way
and it's a great game
and you should pick it up
if you like tactical stuff.
Yeah, I don't even know.
I don't understand Warhammer.
Something that's appealing to me
about SIV is that it's...
It's entry level almost.
It's not...
I don't know if I'd call it entry.
It's streamlined, for sure.
Yeah, it's figured out how to teach you
like these really complex systems.
But simple.
In a safe way.
That's the one thing about, like, when I played,
when I started, you know, Warhammer 2,
I just, I didn't do any
introductory stuff or, like, I just went in
and it took me, I restarted the game six times
because it just, because I was just learning so much
and I was just getting destroyed.
But that game is really generally difficult as well.
So, like, you make one, one, one move.
They're eliminating all of your armies
and all of your cities and you're dead.
So isn't, like, it's quite hard on you compared to Siv.
What is the, the, the,
visual aesthetic of Warhammer 2?
Space Marines? No, that's 4K.
Oh really? Oh, I've got it mixed up then.
Yeah, 4K is like the whole space marines, like orcs, you know, chaos gods.
I haven't seen footage from this one then. I've only seen the RTS with the like
orcs and shit. So Warhammer 2 is like medieval. It's like Lord of Rings.
Is it fantasy? Yeah, it's fantasy. So you've got high elves, you've got dark elves,
you've got orcs, you've got the wats. So the wats are in this.
So it's just got kind of that Lord of the Rings aesthetic, but with some of the 4K stuff,
is Warhammer one of those universes that, one of those like nerd universes that goes fucking deep and has history type of shit?
Yeah, I, I binged 4K history because, you know, dark tide is coming out.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is, you know, like vermin-tied bits on the 4K world.
Because of that, I went deep into the 4K law and it's like weeks on end just watching videos about it and...
So they are different universes.
4K and just Warhammer.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
But there's some, because one of the chaos gods in 4K is also in Warhammer.
So there's a bit of into, like, some subjects also cross over.
This, that's something I really like about Siv, though, is the progression of technology.
It's not like you're medieval and the whole game is like medieval warfare.
It's like you're thinking generations ahead of like,
what you're doing in that current moment
using your knowledge of how
it seems like different itches to me
that are being scratched. Yeah, I would
say it's different itches but the reason
why you play six, sieve, six hours
in a row till two in the morning
is because you're constantly building on those turns.
You're like, oh I've got this one.
What faction is this, James?
Oh, they're dinosaurs.
They're bactors, they're lizard people.
So they've got like a dino race?
Yeah.
They're like a diner.
What are they called?
I can't remember the name
but like one of their
it's a big for his thing
the leader of it is like a big frog
and they have rhinos
that like a spear people and archers
but no one thing about it is
is so diverse and that
in SIV you've got all your units
you know you've got like 10 civilisations
you all make the same units
and they all look the same
but all the factions in that
they're all vastly different
so it feels more unique
and like the way you do each character
they have completely different ways they play
but the game
is more focused on outright combat, isn't it?
Yes.
Because you get, you don't make cities, you conquer cities.
And they have all these siege, like, when you make siege engines and you attack a fortress and
it's all about fighting.
But at the same time, you're still making your cities better.
You're managing, like, you know, how satisfied they are and, like, the religions there.
So it's still got the, it's like, they've got some, most of the stuff of sieve, but they've just
taken a bit away to make the combat
more. Yeah, yeah. No, I can
because, like, warring in sieve is super
fun. But it's
not the whole game. I hate
warring and sieve. Because once
you've got to the big turn and you've got an army,
you're having to move every unit
individually instead of so time consuming.
And I find that, like, when you play
and you're England and you're having moving
units everywhere around, it's so
time consuming to do that every turn.
But with Warhammer
and Total War in general, because
the whole franchise your army is just in your leader so you just move your leader
around so that everything's encompassed in that so it's quite streamlined in
that regard hmm I don't know it's something about Warhammer I'm maybe
someday it's just I don't want to I bought that game I'm ghost runner oh yeah
the cyberpunky kind of yeah yeah no that does look good yeah because that was on
It was cheap on Steam, so I'm going to play that once I finish the Mass Effect games.
Why has you been talking about just been looking at screenshots of it?
And I think I prefer the aesthetic of this, like, over the, you know, the orcs with the power arm and stuff.
Yeah, no, it's...
I like this.
I think, is this this frog guy you're on about?
Yeah, it's like really weird and creepy.
You know, but he's Aztec?
So he sits on this flying fly.
So it's like an Aztec lizard one, and then you've got the orcs.
But the good thing about this is, you know, I don't see if, like, you got the Baibain.
camps and the R&G
they could just like constantly attack you
but with that there's more of a deeper into like
alliances so
a barbarian equivalent can pop up but you can make an
agreement with them so they don't attack you and destroy
you and then there's more
it's deeper in that regard I think that's what the barbarians
clans mode in Siv tried to do but
yeah they're just kind of fucked
they need to find enough
other way to fix barbarians like if you're not deep into that like this whole really deep
you know war like grand strategy I understand the pillar sieve it's like because the last
two weeks I've just been watching history videos on the Romans and the you know the
Parthians and all of that and all these old military breakdowns of their defeats and
what went wrong and it's just I've had an itch for something deep that's military and
focused and I wanted to play sieve but it just wouldn't is there not like a Roman
themed one as well
there's so many of these types of games
there's a total war
is that the rat? No that's the franchise
yeah that's like a vampire one
like there's loads of diversity
and it's really cool with the
unit designs but yeah total
war is a franchise and they have wore him there
was show gun
yeah three kingdoms
like there's a whole lot of them
and this was on a sale and it's 11 pounds I decided
yeah that's the thing
all these games are so complex
and so many of them
have terrible tutorials
whereas SIV has a really good way of
teaching players
I got, it only took me about a whole day to actually
get the, like five hours
of gameplay to actually understand it because of SIV
because it's all in my head of managing the city
all these little bars.
Siv is the best entry point into this genre
yeah and it's like I love
the Three Kingdoms period I got interest in that
like Japan, Shogans and Rome
they're all really interesting and they're like
they're trying to be historically accurate
so you've got if you actually enjoy history
you've got like an entry point to these type of games
it's just getting over the horrible hurdle
I think I'm now so in love with that
the way those games are that I just don't want to jump
back to Siv unless if you want to play Mardipler
of course I still would but it's like
when you when you want to just
get sucked into this big campaign
I think it does it better than Sivgan
but also I really do like the full
world as well. I think that's fucking mental
that whole world. I don't really
like the way the space marines look.
No. I'm going to admit
that here and now. Yeah, I'm going to have
to agree with you. They're really chunky. We're more from
the like Halo space marine shit.
Yeah, the actual cool shit. But I'm pretty sure
like Master Chief takes cues from them.
No doubt. Yeah. Because that's like... Yeah, but they
made it cool. Yeah. Yeah.
But it makes sense in the world because the world
like if you think of worlds,
that world's the worst because they've taken everything
and made it plus a thousand.
Like, the space marines have got armour that's like 15 inches thick and it can't be beaten by anyone.
But then the enemy has the same.
So it's like this constant power level is, it's just obscene.
But it's kind of interesting in that regard.
Because the world is shit.
Multimedia.
This whole, like, Warhammer thing.
Yeah, God, yeah.
Like books, there are games.
A huge part of it is the, like, figures.
Yeah, no, that's the, that's the bait.
What it's based on is just that's, that's where it started.
But then they're also like, there are strategy games, there are action games.
games, there was that, like, Gears of War one.
Space Marine, the Space Marine one.
Yeah, the Space Marine that everyone loved.
But it's like, and there's books and there's, but they, the main, like, games they have, they're all strategy games, like, um, Dawn of War is the, the, the 4K one.
But it's like, the reason I, I kind of got into 4K was that I was at work and I got suggestions of people made these soundscapes to listen to while you play the ball game.
Oh, yeah.
And that, that, and it's just like one of them for, like, these.
robot ways. They're the weeper sounds
and it's just like just doing my
work listening to these soundscapes I found it really
interesting and I just got really interested in through
that. But the actual Warhammer
world is really interesting
because it's very Lord of the Rings
but also has this kind of
really high fantasy of like crazy
shit going on. It's just seeing dinosaurs
fighting like elves is really
rats. Yeah and rats
is really interesting. Would you guys ever play
dungeons and dragons?
Yeah, I would try it
But I think it's one of those things
Where there's a lot to learn
So it's like you need an entry point to that
But there's no entry point
It's just
Well it's what loads of role-playing games
Are modelled off
They like use
Dungeon Dragons as the structure
But like when you're playing with people
Like you
You got a role play
Well yeah
You have to roll play
You have to roll play
Yeah
Yeah
Okay
JAR Dungeons and Dragons
The Jard D
the jar dungeon.
See, I would, I just, I, I, I want to know more about it to see how enjoyable it would be.
Except we might just lose our friendship over it.
No, I ain't, no, the way Siv goes when you've stood, go next to me, this, they'll end our friendship.
Maybe, maybe.
Fucking England, for fuck sake, building cities by my borders.
Well, on that note, we'll be back after these messages.
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In it.
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Let me just, though, mate my nest.
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Comfy?
Comfy over there, bro.
How's your gamer neck getting you going?
I don't think Jamie has much for a gaming neck.
Don't have a gamer neck.
Gamer Neck?
No, there was that comment
that was like, I'm surprised by the lack of
Gamer Neck. Let me go sideways.
The tiny chairs and stuff.
This episode doesn't count if you're trying to
critique my Gamer Neck. On like a normal episode,
have a look.
Do I have Gamer Neck, Jamie? Do I honestly have Gamer Neck?
I don't know what I'm talking about.
No, because as gamers, you've got to be more
concerned about, you know, your back.
Yeah, if anything...
I'm starting to feel like a finger strain
from editing.
Really? I get finger strain.
I get like carpal time.
Oh, mid-Siv game.
I'm like,
ugh.
You don't start, obviously.
You just keep going.
Until 2 in the morning.
Well, this is the part of the cast.
We'll be answer questions
from the JAR Media community.
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R-slash-J-Media is going to start us off.
Alex, if you're planning on answering this,
please do it at the very beginning of the question segment
so that we can hear it in action.
Jamie, for the rest of the cast and the foreseeable future, could you say amen to that whenever you agree with something or want to say yeah?
And that ain't Christ-like whenever you disagree with something or want to say no.
How do you feel about this, Jim?
Who's this rude boy trying to give me instructions, gruff?
Yeah, no, you don't take instructions from nobody, buff.
That ain't Christ-like.
Don't do it, Jamie
Who sounds the most fitting saying it
You
You say it
That ain't very Christ-like of you, brother
Ooh, that was really good
Jim
That's not Christ-like
Might as it's got to be for James on this one
No, I was purposely making it good
You just like whip me
In a way to
You know
I can't do it
No, because I will forget
I will forget to do it
I don't have the...
I felt like I was in the cathedral, brother.
Well, that's not very Christ-like of you, James.
Harry King says,
What was the worst era of the internet,
and why was it 2016?
Because that's when we started making videos.
Yeah.
2016 was a particular...
That era.
That quadrant of the internet was a...
was an interesting one.
Was that...
peak of the stuff we were saying about
earlier, the, like, pranks and shit.
Because that is the worst. Yeah, it was like
pranks, it was, 2016, was
that, yeah, Trump. Trump being elected,
yeah, to the rise of populism
and everything.
And the anti-SJW movement.
Yeah, that was the worst bit. But was
the, no, yeah.
That was the worst
era. It was
so divisive.
Mm-hmm.
Well, yeah, it
was the problem that it wasn't divisive enough?
It was just like there was one opinion
that was just like everywhere and accepted
and like wasn't scrutinized enough
and it's finally been scrutinized some of it now.
Yeah, maybe.
That may be.
Yeah, weird era.
Totally weird era.
But I'd say the worst era of the internet
was before the internet existed.
No, no, no, no.
Because we didn't have it.
Yeah.
No, I disagree.
You couldn't look up I'm rude boy.
Yeah.
Push your old table.
Hey, Siri, define rude boy.
No, surely that time must have been easier.
Yeah, it would be a nice better.
You have, like, two-hour conversations in the bar
of, like, what actor was in this, like, random show or whatever.
Yeah, true.
Conversation was way easier back then.
Yeah, because you could just, like, waffle on about anything,
but now it's like, yeah, what actually is, like, that it only grows in that one place?
And you're just like...
Oh, that's Foxglove?
Yeah, I'll find out for you.
Hang on.
Give me one second.
No, give me three seconds.
Yeah, and then you sit there afterwards, like...
All right.
know that now. Yeah. For five
fucking seconds and then I forget about it.
That's why you have debates about
something very specific than most people
don't know. It's that
thing of
you know, like
communication. It's not as important
anymore.
What do you think it's just as
important but we've kind of put
less of value on
the old communication? Now it doesn't matter
who's saying it.
What matters is
the truth.
Maybe that's a good thing.
That's not true, though.
Do you know what I mean?
The truth doesn't matter because people just forge the truth.
Full guys, the movie, sorry, free guys, what's it called?
That Ryan Reynolds movie.
Freeman.
That would be coming out if we were living in a just society.
Should Ryan Reynolds play Gordon Freeman in a Half-Life movie?
Yes.
Only if the, the mustache or the facial hair is like really fake looking, then it would look awesome.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
And everything has to be green-screened.
And as long as he delivers everything in a certain way that only he can do,
where, like, you know, every line he delivers is like the exact same,
and he's always like the same character and everything he's ever in.
Yeah. Like a true actor should be.
Absolutely bonkers, mate, can bring us back a little bit to one of the sections from last episode.
The discussion of gender and sexuality on the latest cast had to...
definitely stuck with me a lot. As a person who has always struggled with labeling myself,
what Jamie said really resonated with me. I'd love to live in a world where you can just be.
That's a quote of you, Jim. I've always been confused about my sexuality, and I never felt a full
and strong attachment to the gender I'm supposed to be, but I find that it's difficult to describe
or label how I feel. I settled on the idea of being non-binary and bisexual, but in all
honestly, whenever the question, what is your gender identity slash sexuality comes up among people
who are accepting, I would just say some variation of, who knows?
After years of trying on label after label, I realized that the idea of labeling myself
was causing me such stress that I couldn't even properly explore who I am.
I wouldn't experience an identity crisis, choose a label, then suffer, sorry, I would experience
an identity crisis, choose a label, then suffer from an identity crisis because I didn't
necessarily fit the label I chose, then repeat a hundred times.
I discovered I really felt happiest when I simply label myself as myself and not be
concerned about the semantics of my own being.
It makes life a hell of a lot easier.
And it takes the rush out of self-discovery,
allowing you to have a more
enriched life experience.
So that was my ramble.
Here's my question.
What sexuality at each of the Madagascar characters?
So you know, no, do you know how ahead of the curve I've been?
This is what I was going to say.
How long have I just referred to myself as, I'm just James?
I'm James.
Yeah, you're, you're correct.
That's exactly what I was just about to say.
That's why I did the little finger point thing.
I'm truly based.
Because how many episodes was it ago we were talking about, like,
what is it that to you makes you a man,
or what makes you associate with your gender?
Because I've been thinking about it since then, I'm like,
I don't really associate with any of the stereotypical, I guess, male attributes,
whatever that means.
I've never, that's never been like a big part of my life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a man, you know?
It's like, I don't know.
Yeah, I think the less of that stuff there is, the better.
The less, like, to be a man, you don't have to know how to repair that.
Change a tire.
Yeah.
Although, this man, man's fucking cold for that.
Holy fuck.
No, like, I don't, anything happens with my car, fuck knows.
anything happens with the plumbing at home
anything happens
ever
I don't fucking know
I ain't any less of a man
motherfucker
uh yes you are
but I may be more of a woman
there you go
you just don't know but the thing is
nowadays you don't need to know those things
because you can just pick up your phone and call with a plumber
and they can turn up the same day
to fix your shit
no but ever since there's been plumbing there's
been plumbers.
All of this shit where there's
like male
and female attributes. Oh, if
you're a man and you like
a musical
you're not
man. That makes
you womanless. Like, fuck you.
There are sects of men who believe
that, um, like
grooming and
um, you know, nice smells and keep yourself
clean and um
washing her face and cleansing
or whatever. It's like...
Like moisturiser.
Moistrising, yeah, stuff like that.
I fucking love moisturising.
Yeah, fucking slap it all over.
No, my dream is to
get into, I mean,
ideally a swimming pool, but
a bath would be fine, a bath full
of moisturiser.
I'm just sitting there.
Just like...
Until it's all absorbed and gone.
Do you think there's
any, like, psycho-rich celebrity
that does just...
Grenf Paolo or whatever her name is.
Gwyneth Prow, yeah.
Her pussy candle.
She gets in the pussy bath.
She's probably got like a warehouse
of like a hundred different swimming pools
of different moisturised.
She's got the like Mad Max
like tit suck machines
but for pussy juice instead.
Like a warehouse full of pussy juice.
Just making candles.
Yeah.
Harvesting the pussy juice.
If those candles weren't so expensive
I'd say someone to send them to the PO box
so we could just have
one of those fucking beauties burning away
in the background.
Do you know how much they actually cost?
So I try and...
I'm just assuming it's expensive.
Yeah, I...
Imagine if you lit it up, though,
and suddenly you, like, ascend to the ethereal realm.
Wow, I really feel like I'm...
No, I don't know.
I really feel like I'm blessed.
So, um, they're roughly about 58 pound.
Yeah, that's expensive for a candle.
How are these tiny or big ones?
Um
No, how much pussy juice has been talking about?
It just looks like a normal candle, but it just says this smells like my vagina.
Specifically, Gwyneth Paltre is?
Yeah.
Oh, so it's her?
How much of her pussy juice has been harvested?
It's just infinite.
But then, um, in the Google image, like, suggested, there's Chris Witty candle.
I'd much prefer that.
That was amazing
He came down from above
What are we talking about
Sexuality or something
What it means to be a man
What it means to be anything
Yeah like I said
Once we're all uploaded to the internet
Gender
Sexuality
None of it will be anything
We'll just be
part of the combine from Half-Life 2.
Just be you, you know?
Yeah, just fucking play Halo 3
if that's what makes you happy.
Well, speaking of playing,
Max 09, Willow 24 says,
question for James.
Do you play Sunday league footy of any kind?
I show my mate a picture of you and he said
him and his team played against you.
No. I've never played a Sunday league.
You don't have, like, a secret alter ego.
You just...
Yeah, like I'm a professional footballer.
Jordan, the...
Michael Jordan.
I don't play football.
James is actually all the most famous Jordans in the world.
Yeah.
In his spare time.
Yeah, why do you think we can only do, like, Jarvi-Jos on certain days?
Because I'm flying around the world.
I don't play football.
I just own football shirts.
That's all.
Why do you think none of us?
like into football
because we were losers
is
no are we losers because we're not into football
or are we into football
because we're not losers
so my theory
with the sport thing is that I think
you need
you need like your team
you need your hometown you need your
no but we have a team we could attach ourselves
yeah Swindon FC
no
via our family
like where we
we came from.
No, but this is what I'm saying.
Are you talking about on an international level?
No, on, like, what team would you mean?
Well, I mean, rugby, obviously, we'd be for New Zealand.
But I mean, football, it'll be Liverpool.
But yeah, you said football, not rugby.
Yeah, football, Liverpool.
Yeah, get out of here, not fucking Liverpool, let's say.
Northern blood runs through our veins.
Yeah, but Liverpool's shit.
That's it.
All the jar fans are all gone.
To me, I don't like the only.
idea of just supporting somewhere
because I was born there
necessarily. No, but the
idea of supporting a team is that you
just attach yourselves to them.
Because there's no point attaching yourselves
to one, whichever one is just winning.
You just have to find a reason
to attach yourself to any of them.
No, because then you're a trophy hunter.
You only support the team that wins because you want.
Yeah, exactly. So there's no point in doing that.
No. People do it. You have to attach
yourself to
but like I don't really
care. You've got to have an interest in it. I don't think I'm
yeah but... You need to watch it and enjoy watching it and enjoy
the stuff around it. Some people are really competitive too. I'm
they get really into the whole thing. I mean when there are games on
in the UK you hear like cheering all around the street I mean
no people get really into it. You see it... Indian's pretty tame for
you know that type of... No matter talking about
like gender and stuff. What about nationality?
No, you know, if you're in the side,
and there's a game on
and like everyone's
people are just fucking losing their minds
over this football match
or hooligans
so we talk about like World Cup stuff or Euros
you know it's the country's teams playing
not individually
no even if it's like Manchester versus Liverpool
that's not nationality
that's his team
no but it's still someone being
so into this thing
and all the people there
are so into this thing and I'm not
because why do you think part of it is also for me and you specifically Jim our dad was like a sports guy
or is a sports guy yeah that makes me wonder even more why we're we're you and I no but that makes
me think is it like a oh maybe it skips a generation sort of shit you know yeah no I think it's
just how much how proactive was he when you were young and making you watch massively he really wanted us
to go into that sort of stuff
we always encourage sports us to get into sports
because it's a huge part of like New Zealand culture
he was like a rugby player growing up
so where did it go wrong
was it games if you didn't play games
no my theory is that um
I think moving around the country
a lot as a child I think we stayed in New Zealand
we probably would have settled on some
maybe but I also think
depending on the social groups or whatever
I think input from
because our mother really doesn't give a shit
about that stuff
um but also i i just find myself way more interested in shit that isn't real fiction
but i i've always like enjoyed sports but i never was interested in the competitive side
i'm much more interested in the actual you physically doing it yeah i liked like athletics and swimming
and i guess the boring ones well yeah like i i never got into playing like competitive sports
but I was big into, like, going to the gym and shit.
So, no, but here's the thing.
Obviously, my whole thing with cars is because, you know, I was brought into the family.
From a young age, it was just like, oh, you're buying toy cars, you're helping me work on my car.
So it was, like, in me from a young age that I must, I was just going to like cars because there's so much influence.
But my parents hate football.
They're not sport people, but I still like football.
That's like the thing, though, isn't it?
It's like, it's almost like a coin flip
where if you're going to be,
no, I'm just going to reject whatever the thing my parents like,
or I'm going to, like, I fucking love this thing.
It's a nature versus nurture debate,
and the answers are beyond us.
You can just speculate or whatever.
What a little monkey brains are up to?
Yeah, but football's sick, isn't it?
Yeah.
No.
It's the Euro soon, anyway.
Yes.
If you only started liking football
because Mediterranean countries,
they kind of care.
like if you win
if they win the league you will be in bed
at two in the morning and 15 million of them
will be driving around honking non-stop celebrating
going mental don't get that in England
it's just like I remember
it's so sad
like I would only watch football games
just for the hope of like
come on the country like needs this
like people are fucking
you know they're just like need a win
it's like something for people to like cheer against them
yeah
tied to your apron as one question mostly for jim about a month ago i bought the dark souls remaster and played the game for the first time i instantly fell in love like james i'm not a gamer but i became extremely addicted to the game after i beat it i decided to pick up blood-borne as well and though i initially enjoyed it i found i've come i've found it's come to be quite monotonous the environments all just feel a bit too similar visually and enemy-wise and i
found it's too easy to jet straight through enemies and head to a boss, even if it's overly far away.
In Dark Souls, that sort of thing felt ritualistic and rewarding, but not so here.
I've currently hit a dead end where both paths I could take are blocked by bosses,
and I don't feel particularly motivated to try and defeat any.
It's a shame because I generally enjoyed Lovecraftian horror more than medieval fantasy, but here we are.
What are your thoughts on Bloodbourne?
And would you say the game is worth sticking it out?
For reference, the two bosses I'm stuck on are, bear with me,
Mergo's wet nurse and
Abritus
Abritus
Abritus?
Abritus daughter of the cosmos
I never finished
Bloodborn
Did you get to those bosses?
Did you get that for?
I never went against the wet nurse
I don't think I went against
Abritus either
That's all you need to know about the game then
Yeah, only played it a couple hours
I probably would have played if it was on
if it wasn't stranded on PS4
Yeah, I definitely would have finished it multiple times if it wasn't stranded on PS4.
But those criticisms, in my opinion, are totally valid.
Also, I think Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborn are all too easy.
Do you think so?
Yeah.
So do you find it annoying that Bloodborn gets...
I think Bloodborn gets jerked off...
Yeah, for sure.
Out of the modern ones, ignoring Dark Souls 1, it's probably the most jerked off one.
Yeah.
Dark Souls 1 is way better than Bloodbourne.
And I think Sekaro is way better than Bloodborn.
So do you think it's that just impeccable art direction then or what?
Um...
It's like really got people in.
I...
Maybe because it's easier as well.
Right.
It requires...
Maybe easier is the wrong word.
It requires a different skill set to like...
Well, because I did play a few hours of it.
And I did not get the same.
feeling that I got from Sekiro that was like oh yeah it's I need to see this through it's much
less tight that the the the strategy you use in Bloodbourne to get through the whole game
or as much as I've played never changes right it's a case of so I've I've I've I think it was in
Joseph Anderson's video he says something about this too about it being fairly easy yeah yeah
Does it not have like those dungeons that are really hard though?
The dungeons, well, the thing is, that's another thing that makes it easier
because you can use the chalice dungeons to basically farm XP.
Oh.
And I did that a bunch and it made the game easier.
For a game I was already finding quite easy.
Also, it's got pretty bad bosses.
So it's got like really fucking good bosses, but a lot of them suck.
like these big beasts that are in Bloodbourne
oh yeah I did one where the camera was a real problem
like just trying to attack it so much of it is just this big thing
that you can't really you can't really tell what it's doing
and it's flailing that is so many of the bosses in Bloodbourne
and again it like it's not a bad game by any fucking means
but it's stranded on PS4
I was going to try and reiterate it sounds like we're dunking on Bloodbourne
yeah yeah it's just compared to maybe
yeah compared to the tightness of especially Sekaro
where like every single
it's the guitar hero thing
but like it's you're shown something
and you have to choose the correct response
Sekra has actually changed the way I play games now
like I'm actually
search out challenge more as opposed to coast
Yeah yeah
Because that's that was my reaction to Dark Souls 1
And if if Bloodbourne was a lot of people's
Like first entry point into that sort of thing
then I mean that's really
good. But yeah,
Bloodborn suffers in the
departments I mentioned.
Well, seeing as we're on this topic,
Wonderful Fruit 554-3 asks,
What are some video games
that you think would make great
movies? This question goes to anyone.
None. Don't.
We're always talking shit
about video games. There has to be
a good idea,
if I like, one of them. There has to be some
way. There isn't.
None. If it's a game, it's
a game don't adapt it dude there has to be something
hmm I'm struggling I mean I because I all the ones that are the the the
picked are always just the oh I hate that idea yeah a shot movie that's
coming out this borderline's movie you know that probably makes the most
sense because if that game is just a movie anyway so at least it would
No, but that's why it doesn't work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it's a game copying film,
and then it's going to be a film copying a game copying film.
But then it's still a film, but then...
No, the only thing that makes Uncharted good is the fact that you can play it.
It's a playable Indiana Jones,
and then there's taking the playable part out
and just making it like a worse Indiana Jones.
Yeah, but then that's better than what, though?
What could be worse better?
Well, it depends how much...
But honestly, I feel like this, this HBO Last of Us show, that has way more potential than any of these throwaway, like, Borderlands movies to me.
Yeah, but it's Last of Us.
It's like an old IP now, but like, fuck, dude.
I have more faith in that than like this Mario Illumination movie.
Even like when people were trying to sell this idea of a Mass Effect movie.
No, terrible idea to me.
because you'd have to make it so, like, hyper-specific.
You'd have to, like, just set it somewhere in the MassFit universe.
No, the only thing that would...
Yeah, it would all be so surface level.
None of it will ever work,
because you can't, like, bring a Torian into the, into the world for live action.
It'd look fucked.
But...
I reckon you could do that now.
But what would work is, like, some...
Like, following a Gaurus-type character as, like, a bounty onto an Omega or something.
Like, kind of cyberpunky.
You have to go in so deep.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
make it at that point?
You could just make a
cyberpunk kind of space.
Yeah, and you could just make that a game anyway.
They should.
And it's the same of like
there was the Bioshot movie too
and another terrible idea.
Just because the worlds are cool,
I don't think it necessarily means
it's going to translate to a movie.
Movies have certain limitations
that games don't.
Yeah, and when a bunch of your game
revolves around developing this world
that is interactable,
specifically interactable.
Yeah.
And like, you, you can just take your time at any point to listen to audio logs or to read the codex or whatever.
You don't get that in a movie.
That's probably why something like The Last of Us does work, because it's just kind of like a mini-series that you play.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
So it would adapt nearly one-to-one as just being like a show.
But what would be the worst?
No, what's the worst fucking movie game you can think of that would be...
Boardlands?
Tell me about, like, the idea of a Borderlands movie is actual, like, hell.
like uh yeah yeah it's fine in its video game realm it kind of well it's cringy but it like belongs
there yeah for sure geese a geese of war movie would be fucking awful i don't know actually i think if
if you got the right person attached to a gears film you could say the same for a lot of games
i suppose because um halo
halo had i feel like a chance it had an era yeah where
Yeah, it was even building up to it at a certain point.
That's what District 9 eventually became.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, because it used like a bunch of unused shit from the like pre-production for that Halo,
that Peter Jackson Halo movie, all the weird guns and stuff.
But again, it would be tough.
You're really fucking husking a lot.
I genuinely don't think I can think of a single game that even like needs
Fortnite that as a movie it exists yeah ready player one
you said it you're like now movies like they're just becoming like they're all just
becoming ready player one no I'm wondering if I should give a ready player one more credit
now because it's kind of a realistic future yeah yeah and it's really sad oh it's so sad
It's depressing.
Yeah.
The second VR and Fortnite get combined,
that's the end of the fucking world.
Yeah, but then everything would be in the fucking shit Fortnite style.
Like, that's death is easier than that.
Yeah, but imagine seeing them fat asses in VR.
The Fortnite Xenomorph in VR?
Oh, damn.
Now we're getting somewhere.
What about alien isolation as a movie?
I'd prefer that.
x then i might actually get through it sorry people actually like that game um i might try it
properly at some point i might now that i've played through a bunch of resident evil yeah because
when i tried to play it it was like i think i tried to play it on like the xbox one so it would have
been like locked 30 horrifying yeah yeah that was the scary bit i didn't even get to the alien
when i played that game because there's this this is part early on where you could yeah these
like robots you've got to like sneak around i personally um never find that gameplay where you've just
got to hide from things and you've got no nothing i hate that that outlast style i don't really like
i don't find it scary or fun or anything really i just kind of find it irritating i've tried
playing out last too but it stresses me out i don't know why i want to be stressed out by a bit i just
find it i don't know it doesn't work for me yeah present evil too that freaked me out that was like
the tension I'm after, but there's something about
alien isolation that didn't work for me.
It should do, I love alien.
Yeah, and the fucking, like, graphics and shit.
Mm-hmm. God damn.
And wasn't it the Halo Wars guys who made that fucking game?
Alien isolation? I'm pretty sure.
What?
No way. Yeah. Holy fuck.
Halo Wars is the better game.
Fucky.
No, shut up.
We already piss people.
off with our game opinions. No, Halo Wars was
great. No, mine are based. Yours aren't
based? Halo Wars is a fucking shit
game, mate. No, it's incredible.
You just weren't as good as us.
No, I wasn't
interested in playing with you guys because it fucking
sent me to sleep every time I played it.
We did play.
Cocky, we've been
and Alex thought they could beat me with Matt
combined. Oh yeah. And we won.
Damn, yeah.
I remember that. Yeah, so you can't even use
the excuse that I was bad.
No, because
That's just the best moment in our gaming history
is putting the gamers in their place.
God damn it.
Dinner dog says,
If I send you some super sour sweets,
and I mean sour,
I'm talking 10 times the potency of warheads
slash toxic waste.
Would you guys be up for trying them on video?
They're so fucking sour,
I could barely keep them on half
from one of five seconds at first.
I'd send them straight from Amazon
so you wouldn't have to worry about COVID-contactact.
No, does this person think we're a bitch?
We ate, we ate Scorpion on this fucking video.
Yeah, we're gonna do 18 mini-roll challenge.
That's gonna happen.
I find it was sour.
Yeah, I ain't, I ain't a bitch.
No, sour ain't shit to me.
I think the only, like, taste thing that can go too far is heat.
Yeah, send us some ghost chili speppers and scorpion.
No, that's shit.
Like, it just ruins you.
Yeah.
And it goes over your window, yeah.
Yeah.
Let's do a couple more then for we end.
Josh underscore R 2002 says
Howdy Mingers
Longtime viewer first time commenter here
I wanted to commune directly
with Beast himself on this one
Jim's ghostly encounter
involving a scream at his place of work at 1am
has left me stumped for an incredibly long time
and much like Jim I've been trying to rationalise it as well
I think I might have a plausible answer
for what the scream could have been
it could quite possibly have been a deer
to contextualize with my own experience
One night I was walking home in the dark through the fields, I live in Britain, by the way,
and I, too, heard a human scream.
It genuinely sounded like a woman screaming in pain slash fear.
After a while, I glimpsed into the darkness and saw that it was a deer.
It was running around incredibly frantically, and it spooked me so much that I genuinely ran all the way home.
Therefore, Jim, if this incident happened in the countryside at night,
I think it's possible that a deer came running past your place of work and let out a scream,
as they seemed to do so exclusively in the wee small hours for some reason.
and feel free to debunk me
but hopefully this helps to explain the unexplainable
or perhaps Auntie Zula has finally
caught up with you.
Knowing that place I don't think that's possible.
Yeah, I wish it could be explained away like that
but it sounded inside the building.
And I was inside.
I wasn't out in a forest.
I wasn't out in a field.
Yeah, and with either side of that place
there's no way a deer can get there.
So a main, like a road for a village
and just while open field,
have been close enough to sound like it's kind of from the building yeah yeah for sure people
were staying in the hotel that night shortly that's the only thing that would make sense
yet why would they scream at one in the morning down in downstairs where i was it was one door away
that's the that was the sound did they look like the kind where maybe it was that good dick
No.
Oh.
It's been good dick.
Why else would someone be screaming at one in the morning?
I can't think of any other reason.
Oh, oh, oh.
Yeah, no, because it...
Yeah, I know what you mean.
It wasn't like a pleasure moan.
Right.
It was like a ghost going...
It was like a...
Like, imagine if you were hit by a carriage and the wheel was going over your back.
That sort of moan.
Like an agony scream.
Yeah.
God damn it
No but I was thinking
Isn't there this thing
I should just share that memory with me
So I could be like
Yeah see
This is what I mean
In the future
When it's just all brainwave uploads
Just be like
Zoing
And you'd be like
Yeah that's someone getting that good dick
Yeah
No but isn't there food
From my Einstein
Or something that there's like energy
That kind of
Yeah some people
Believe that shit
That makes sense
This is the most fucked up thing though
because I'm like
the person that would never believe
in any of that trash and if I
heard myself, if I went
back in time and told
myself, you're going to experience this
thing and it's like a ghostly weird thing
and I'm looking at my own face, I'd be like
fuck you dude, you don't know what you're talking about.
How does that not destroy your whole
worldview then? Um, it has
and I've been spiraling ever since.
See, it's just
like Ven's ours.
when do we experience the same thing
when do we go into a building that has the ghostly or means
ghost experiences are a wham
yeah it's just you have to be in the white time
in the white place where someone died in a certain building
at a certain time and it just
their energy is left behind
would you guys do a Ouija board
in that building with me at night
no I'm not no no I'll just
know what if you hadn't had the experience
yes
but now really really
you won't because of
I would
I'd happily go there with people
I don't think I could go there by myself
No no you wouldn't have to go by it like
You me and James
Finger on the Ouija board
I could probably do that
How about this though
I think which is much scarier
Let's say you go there
To the location of this place
You wait till midnight one in the morning
And that's when you go out into that woods
Where there's the story
of the hanging little girl or whatever
There was no hanging little girl
There's so much shit in that area
It was the
The number one place during World War II
Where they stored ammunition
In the UK
So there's all these tunnels and shit
Underneath
It's genuinely so creepy
Do you know what's the worst about this
Is I work next to it
It's like up the road
Dude
We can go there
I want to go there
Like when COVID
it isn't a thing anymore.
I want to go there.
At night?
Yeah.
Do you tell you any of any thing
you could do that, walk around that woods?
I could not do it by myself.
No way.
No, I die.
I just kill myself, honestly.
It's just like, no, I'm fucking out of here.
Because you'd lose your car with
and then you're lost in the woods
and then it's like...
That's what we deserve
is to be lost in the woods IRL.
That's the meme, isn't it?
It's like the white guys that like...
Yeah.
They hear the scary noise and they're like,
let's go investigate that.
Let's find out what that.
creepy shit what's yeah I would do it
but it's just like I'd have to sleep at one of your
houses if we do see anything after
I'd have to be cutting
when people are together
and all it takes is for one of them to be scared
and it spreads
it would be me I'm the empathy of that fear
like it's such a like powerful emotion
no but it's a good
jar with you hello guys
yeah if we get like a night vision
camera yeah but then
then we'll see nothing we'll upload the vision
and be like
They're trying
I can see something
Fucking
That is something
That is something that's actually scary
There
Harrow Brian
Yeah
No
Like if you were to take a picture
Like in some old
Like shack
And then you're like
Wait what's that in the corner
Yeah
I find that I do really creepy
There's that horror movie
That does it
Um
The cut over in spill wrote
Oh really
Yeah
I can't remember what it's cool
It's got the stupid
It's called like
Beguel or something.
But that was the
idea. It's like Ethan Hawke, like, watching
like old film reels
and trying to find Begul and then he does something creepy.
I probably talked about it on the cast, but the scariest
moment in my life was when I was just on my phone film
pictures, and I started to notice those of pictures
I never remember taking.
So, and they were, they were black.
They were black, so I was just like...
Yeah, because that was all so creepy about
when Slender Man's first started popping
up. That was his law, wasn't it? It was
like these old pictures of like,
what's that creepy guy in the background?
Yeah, but, yeah, yeah.
I looked these pictures
and it's just like my heart fucking stank
and I sank and I started to panic.
And it's just because they were all black screens
or white screens, but they look like my womb.
So I was just like, if I click this
and there's something there, I'm just fucked.
But it turned out, they were all of my bedstreet
or my room.
I was asleep and taking pictures of my womb
and my bed sheets and I was just like,
but I saw them and I was like,
what about if something's that?
or about if there's actually
something in these pictures
it's just like, I'm fucked, I'm not moving
going in my room ever again, I'm moving out.
Yeah, but you've got
a house that would like, it's just not
haunted. No, because it's a new build.
Yeah, relatively.
And then I'm on the top floor. Maybe
it was built on like a Saxon
burial site.
No, but I find
ghost stuff really interesting, but it's just
like I'm a fucking pussy. I'm going to
fucking cry in that shit if I ever
experience. No, I feel like my experience
with it has made me way more open
to like aliens
and shit, just anything.
Well, yeah.
It's like, okay, so it's just straight a real
bro, the US government's just like...
Yeah, this monophones are just like...
Yeah.
Should we...
No, why doesn't jar people
send us their ghost stories?
I mean, we...
Why are you sending us UFOs?
We'll weed your ghost stories
while around the pussy juice
candle.
Yeah, with the Ouija board.
Yeah.
Captain Goatsy can send us away.
No, actually no, wait.
If we hit X-Gar on Patreon
we'll go to the woods by the pub
and do a spooky video.
I'm getting scared just thinking about...
Yeah, let's do it.
Fuck.
Let's fucking do it.
I'll need cuddles for like a year,
I don't think of surviving that.
Captain Goatsy can send us away then.
Thoughts on the villains in the new space jam
being called the Goon Squad.
Wise up Gooners.
I think they're called that in the original too, right?
Are they?
I don't know.
Let's say they're not, because it's just fucking annoying.
Like, every...
Speaking of fucking Ready Player 1.
This trailer just looks like Ready Player 1.
Jesus Christ.
Nine Giants there again.
Yeah, everything's just got to be like...
Wait, look, there's that.
And this too.
Oh, that thing I know.
Yeah, you remember this one?
No, fuck you.
I don't remember shit.
Get some damn integrity.
Anything I remember is Ryan Reynolds.
running around GT Online.
Yeah.
No,
we're going into a place where
like we're so void
of new ideas.
It's like, fuck,
what video game
doesn't have a shit story
that we can just
make into a movie?
No, no, it's not even that. It's just
what video games have not been movies yet?
Yeah. It doesn't matter if the stories are.
Mortal Kombat doesn't have a movie.
Yeah.
It doesn't even matter if they did.
Mario had a movie.
Mortal Kombat had a movie.
movie.
They're going to do a movie
for that Xbox original game that was going
to compete with something else.
A cameo movie or some shit.
What's it called?
You played it?
Oh, too human.
Two human?
Two human.
It's too human.
When we get the two human game coming out,
we know there's problems.
Do you think they only made that franchise
so they could call the sequel T-W-O-Human?
Two-Human.
Two-Human.
And have it like co-op.
So it was two humans.
Don't Microsoft don't listen to this place
They've got that kind of bullshit money
Where they all greenlight something that dumb
Yeah
And we can sue them for creating their idea
No that's what we should do with this
What is it?
Jam
Jam
Ajar jam
No the Space Jam
Yeah they've taken that from us
everything takes from us
yeah we we say goon the the world
says how long we say that all the time
welcome to the jam
yeah yeah
that's another one but it's like
Space Jam is such a time capsule movie you can't
you can't make another one
you fucking can't and when you try it's gonna be cringe
it's just like trying to make another shred
the first one was cringe yeah
yeah but that's why it's so it's like such
unique cringe that you could not get again.
That soundtrack,
the actors that are in it,
like, the look of it and everything,
it's such a fucking, this perfect.
Isn't Bill Murray in it?
Yeah, Bill Murray's in it.
I want to say Melman, but he's not called Melman.
He's the guy from Simon.
Newman.
Newman.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to it.
The whole time we've been talking that
four guy, three guys
has just been in the back of my fucking head.
You want to talk about free guys?
Because we watch that trailer.
Free guy?
We watched that new trailer
right before we started recording or whatever.
Okay, here's an ultimatum.
You have to see one at the cinema.
The free guy
or the hitman's wife's body guy.
The hitman's wife's bodyguard.
Fuck.
That's genuinely like really difficult.
isn't he?
I'm sick.
Yeah, but Samuel Jackson
will carry that one.
I think I'd rather see
Fall Guy's a movie or whatever,
a free guy.
No, no, the Hitman's Bodyguard.
The Hitman's Bodyguard
is one of those kind of movies
where it's like,
it is so boring,
but there is nothing to it
where it only exists
because it's like
studios looking at, right,
who is number one right now,
you know?
And then just assembling
this fucking awful show.
and then making a sequel to it.
Yeah, but Free Guy.
I think Free Guy will be so, so bad.
Like, one of the worst films ever made.
I think it's going to be that bad.
And everyone's always like, oh, Jim's thing against Ryan Reynolds is just like a joke thing.
It's like, no, look at his project.
Look at what the fuck he's doing with his life.
But say, like...
He's living in his fucking mansion
on Instagram
with his fucking yeah
Yeah
Deadpool 3 coming soon
Marvel MCU epic
Oh my God, yes
I hope they remake endgame
But stick in
No no that this is a whole new option
They can do like
Endgame from Deadpool's perspective
Ooh
Now this I like
Captain America of Civil War
From
Deadpool's perspective
How are they going to bring back Iron Man?
Deadpool's like...
Deadpool's Iron Man.
Hey guys, nobody likes that Iron Man died.
And then he goes back and just pulls him out of the script or whatever.
Because that's the Deadpool thing, isn't it?
No, he would go...
He would like time travel to when Iron Man's going to click,
and then he like stops him and takes the thing off him and becomes Iron Man,
and then Deadpool's Iron Man.
Oh, shit.
Edit this bit out and then just send out.
Email that to Disney.
I won't edit any.
I'll just send that clip to them
and Disney Plus trailers just
going to go up. Yeah, faxed them that
video.
I think we're done here, guys.
Yeah.
Now more four guys for this episode.
Yeah, stay tuned for a free guy
live action
recreation of ghost
stories in the woods.
Thanks for watching
everyone. We'll see you in the next one.
I'm going to be able to be.
Thank you.
