JAR Media Posdact - We Can't Stop CRINGING - JARCAST Episode 138
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Yeah, anyway, shut up.
Shut up, shut up, let me do it.
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so what we got on the agenda today fellas
I'm Jamie by the way
uh hey
what's up guys my name's James house
okay
so we got James House
we got Jamie and I'm the host Alex
now what folks
we got some things we got some things
I got let's start this episode off with an
argue anecdote
okay what's this interesting
be warning
audience warning
listener warning
this one gets hairy
not literally but just
disgusting I mean like truly
truly sickening
so a couple nights ago
I go to feed
I'll gee it was 530
no early time for feeding dogs
to be honest
I heard
I heard them
make sure you feed your dog before 7pm
just in case they need to do a plop
so I feed him at 530
it's just my thing
it seems to work out for him and me
so
he gets hungry at 5.30 I pull out the bowl, I pull out his new food I got him. It's cute. He has his name printed on the packaging. I scoop out some food pour it in his bowl, put it down. And then I walk around the living room a little bit and then I smell something. I'm like, wait, hang on, where's this sudden gush of dog poo smell come from? And I think, oh no.
As he's done a poo inside somewhere, so I frantically search around the room,
trying to find the source of this poo, this dog poo smell.
And then I think, oh no, lift up slipper, because I was wearing slippers.
On the bottom of the slipper, two big rings of shit so that I trodden it.
But here's the question, I hadn't let him out for hours, he hadn't wanted to go out.
Where was the original turd?
So where was the original turd?
So it became a process of, like in a video,
game tracking where my poo steps
had been living room completely
covered in poo steps
how did you not notice sooner
this is the thing no this is the thing
it's a mystery it seems obvious
it seems like how did you miss
poop
I figured it out
yesterday
and it is rank
okay it's so rank
so it remained a mystery for a couple
days
After I'd cleaned it all up, I just thought, I must have, when taking out the rubbish or something, stepped in a piece of poo, walked it through the living room.
But it was nowhere else in the house, so I was so confused.
But anyway, a couple days passed, one evening before I'm going to bed, I let Argy out for his final ablutions.
And lo and behold, he's sniffing around.
I see him doing something strange.
And I say, come on, do you come.
you're not doing anything
and he
he grabs something
and walks inside
so I think
nothing of it
I think it's just a toy or something
he comes in
I know it's embarrassing
he comes in
to the living room
gently places down
a piece of his own
poo that he'd picked up in his mouth
and carried inside
what the fuck
and proceeds to start eating it on the carpet.
Aggie! Nobody!
I know!
It's embarrassing for you.
So what he must have done,
what he must have done is I'd let him out.
He'd grabbed a little nugget of poo that he'd pooed earlier,
brought it inside, put it near his bowl.
So when I went and placed his bowl down, I would have stood in it.
Obviously not thinking, because by the door is quite dark,
not thinking,
Oh, there's a piece of poo there
That I've trodden in
So, that's fucking...
You know, apparently it's normal for dog street their own poo
I was doing some research
Guy says not he is
Well, not every dog
But it's not bad for them, apparently
I do not understand that
But why do you carry it inside?
What was the end goal?
You know what he's like?
He likes to bring things in, take things out.
that kind of stuff
he's just a bit of a disgusting dog
he's got character
unlike
something else
don't start with this argument we've been through this
so um
I think it's that time it's that part of the show
where uh
we're gonna head over to our
in-house expert meme chatter
for our segment of the show
we like to call meme chat
um keemstar stole the idea from us
um
take it away
in a lawsuit currently
with Keem
but
once again
it's another bleak week
for
I swear
as fellow memes
I'll be in dairy milk
buttons into the mic
please
I swear
think about all the new
audio listeners
just hearing
sickening
I swear to God
every week
it's a bleak week
with memes
yeah exactly
it's saying
a thing about memes
is it not
memes are just
I'm gonna start
with
um
that
evolution of a meme
Okay
That is that we all know and
Hopefully love it's TikTok
TikTok
I'm sick of it
TikTok memes have been refined into two
As far as I can tell
I haven't noticed
And that's hit or miss
I bet I guess they never miss
Huh
You got a boyfriend
I bet he doesn't kiss you
We're gonna have to explain
What the hell you're talking about
So it's some shit song
that people tend to sing along to on TikTok
or whatever the fuck they do, mouth along to it
and then make some lame-ass video.
And then due to the dual screen ability of TikTok,
people make fun of them.
Right?
And the meme started there, and it has ended there.
And it's the same thing with,
uh, what's the other TikTok meme?
You won't know, will you?
No
Okay
With the
The Overwatch one
There's the one where the
The girl gets pulled
Yes yes yes yes yes
So there are multiple ones of those
Yeah
Oh yeah there's loads
And there's more and more
Every day
And
My favourite of all of these TikTok memes
Is
The Overwatch one
The worst one of them all
No
It's not
It is the best one
Because
Have you seen the one?
ones where like it starts with a guy holding a pair of headphones with controllers taped to his head
like he's playing with the headphones oh no i'm not seen that one i'm not and then the next one is
like a guy holding his tv like pretending that's the controller
singing along to what some overwatch song yeah that overwatch song i'm i want to be tracer i'm
already tracer by the way it's nearly fireworks night for us um in the uk
so if you hear random
fireworks going of
it's not someone trying to kill you in the street
it's the mic's picking up
trying to kill you in the street
but anyway
so where does this Overwatch song come from
I have no idea
just some awful YouTube video
I would assume so and
it's always like the girl
taking it seriously
not always but I'm exaggerating
the girl taking it seriously
yeah and then a dude just making fun of it sexism TikTok is sexist okay any
others on the meme chat highlight this is a new meme all right yeah okay we're
all familiar with the the trilogy of Madagascar no one of them being an
excellent film which I adore Madagascar three Europe's most wanted
For some reason, the penguins from Madagascar have been getting the meme treatment.
What's the meme?
So it seemed to have, the earliest one...
Is it that you haven't seen anything, so?
No.
Okay.
That's like Facebook 20...
Yeah, that's old Facebook joke tier.
There's another one as well, but I like to move it thing.
You know in Madagascar 2, like the old woman gets like 100.
hunted down by the penguins or some shit like oh she wants to hunt lions yeah yeah god
that film is bad yeah apart from that awesome song by will i am but the earliest the earliest
meme i saw of the penguins was somebody had just dubbed over it and the old woman says i'm
going to say the n word and then the penguins are like you're not going to say the n word we're
going to stop you and then they fight her so that was the earliest me my saw and and
Now it seems to have developed to
Um
Kowalski Analyze
which was a line I guess from
Yeah that's one of the penguins
Yeah
Yeah that's like the smart penguin
And the boss penguin is telling him to analyze something
So
It'll be an image with that at the bottom
With the penguin like
Kowalski Analyze
That's the meaning
I'm liking this
Yeah
It has a lot of potential
I have seen some funny ones
there's something
the Madagascar trilogy is so interesting to me
because the first one is dog shit
the second one is dog shit
and the third one is probably the best anime film
ever made
when was the last time you watched it
when it came out on Torrent
you could not watch it again
no Jim I could
you don't
when you see that I like to move it
move it
monkey thing
go over
to the bear and have like a romantic relationship with a bear in a tutu at the same time
as this robo mecca ultimate cop character who's running through buildings and it's fun it's
awesome then you think it's a bit ADD ADHD yes but whereas the first and second one
are like that but they're just kind of annoying I remember when it came out do you were just
like Jim come down here look at this
so I came down to your room and it was
just the scene where she's like
running through brick walls and stuff and you were
just like wetting yourself
and I was like what
it might have been because I was just expecting here we go
another Madagascar and I was like oh my god
they're actually being weird with it
yeah
stop flicking his ears
okay continue any others
of note um
the last one of note is that
that bloke on a green screen
oh yeah yeah and he says things
yeah and it's often to do with like
and all it takes is your mum's credit card
the the three numbers on the back
and the expiration date
yeah you showed me one today
yeah um
so it's one of those guys you can what pay
to say anything you want
I assume it's a guy you can pay
much like um
what was his name the African man
I don't know
but YMS has used him
loads of people
All the montage parody
people used him
Mm-hmm
And then he was
Left in the dirt
He'd been abandoned
For a white man
Bullshit
Complete bullshit
Institutionalized racism in a way
Yeah absolutely
But this new meme
Quite funny
The thing is with
More versatile
But with
Um
Those two
The original and this new bloke
the quality of the meme is highly dependent on the person who's telling them what to say
mm-hmm so true it's too true
but sadly that's the state of memes this week
I'd say that's way better than the past previous ones we've got the Madagascar one
and we got that guy Madagascar and that guy that's way better than the Skyron
one of the yeah that that meme lived and died in the space of an hour for me
Skyrim bad man
Skyrim bad
well I've said enough on this podcast
how much I
don't like Skyrim
but we were looking at videos
today from when you
so yeah on the Xbox 1
or PS4 or whatever
you can like record a clip from the last 30 seconds
and I didn't realize that my Xbox had saved
all these clips going back
four plus years
and I was just scrolling through them
and boom
we ended up on a bunch of Skyrim
when the Skyrim definitive edition came out
I guess I played it a bit
and I think that game is not good
one bit
I feel like that's gotta be added
to the jar bingo sheet
mentions how bad Skyrim is
yeah well that's specifically me
because when Ruben's here he will defend it
until his deathbed
but Ruben like Spire
Oh, we actually talked about Spiro
We talked about Spiro with Rubin
This is directly from the word
The mouth of Rubin
And he said Spiro, fucking gay dog
Did he actually?
It looks
Pretty much
It looks fucking bollocks
I'm not even interested in it
And I grew up with Spiro
No interest and it looks
Just cringy
It's gonna sell so well there
And people loving it
Did Spiro one
come out after Halo 1
Yes
I guess
Are you sure?
Yeah
Do some fact checking
Jim
Okay
Talk while I do that
What's it called Spiro?
Which Spirose have you even played?
Don't know
I've played A Spiro
I remember watching
Like a neighbour
Play one of them
And just thinking this is lame
And I don't like it
I was
I was slightly too old
I think for Spiro
Because it was so kiddie even at the time
And seeing this like
Remarer
or whatever it's just like it just screams very late 90s early 2000s um mascot character design like
Crash Bandicoot Sonic Spyro they all fit into a similar bracket for me and they've all kind
of died well crash bandicoots won did well sold really well it's sold well because it has like
a let like a an awe of being evaded because a naughty dog made it you found out the
answer Jim about Spyro that's crazy
Crazy. Spiro is actually three years older than Halo.
Really? Yep.
1998, the year after I was born.
What console? The original, PS1, right?
The PlayStation 1.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And that's what the remake is of, right?
It's all of them.
It's like the three of them.
That explains why the game looks so bad.
Because it's like an old-ass empty area with like diamond.
to collect
whatever the fuck
you're doing
that lame-ass game
we're really on one
90s kids
need to back the fuck down
any of the things
90s kids loves
actually good
Ninja Turtles
is terrible
yeah
Transformers terrible
Spiro terrible
Crash Bandicoot terrible
no but that's the thing
I'm a 90s kid
as born in the 90s
like you were
No no no no
no no no no
It's not the same
I think a 90s kid
is when they had their
youth
in the 90s
We had our youth in, like, the naughties, right?
No, but either, yeah, I know what you mean,
but it's just like the stuff that we, our generation, grew up with.
It's not all that different.
I'd never had any of that stuff.
I was way before then.
Thanks for the explosions, neighbours.
Do you want to flick the thingies down?
Because that's going to be super annoying if that does not stop.
Well, it's your fault for moving us to bloody India.
That should sound a bit better now.
Okay.
Yeah, so I think we've come down on the 90s kids.
You know what, seeing as we're pissing off every fandom in existence.
I want to do my Overwatch rant, okay?
Hell, yeah.
You know how we feel about Overwatch.
Come on, let it look.
First, it was, James has, I think, been the consistent anti-Overwatch one on this show, right?
Yes.
Because James, he started off...
I don't remember you ever going on about how you don't like Overwatch.
You didn't really play it so much.
That's what I'm confused about, though, because James loved Overwatch.
Yeah, but he did that complete 180.
No, but I had a reason for it.
What's your reason?
Like, I stopped playing before it went bad.
Like, when it first...
No, wait.
When it first launched, Blizzard didn't throw in all of their, like, shit into it.
So it was just like this...
Yeah, they did.
It's like before they started releasing all these special events
and limited collector's edition fucking skins
and I was just like
you jump on the game, you play it
as soon as they did that
I was like kind of fucked
well listen
we've got to be careful
we're treading on eggshells
around these Overwatch fans
good so listen
my issue with Overwatch
so you were showing me
some trailer for a new character
like a female character
she's just a female
a cowboy
there's something about
Overwatch and it's art style
and it's advertising
that seems so pandering to
fandom culture and that whole internet vibe
that it's had from day one it was almost like cocky in the way that in
do you remember that first trailer where it shows like tracer and the gorilla and
Reaper and all that in that museum um yeah a reveal trailer or something
and they were acting as if they were already established like icons in gaming or something
like Mario and stuff it was because of like the plot of the game
is intertwined with
like how they're trying
to make these characters like on it's an ingenious
business move they clearly did a lot of
market research like down to
the art design to the like kind of
cutesy
midway between
being kind of edgy
but also they have everything they have
edgy they have like cool they have
cutesy
yeah they have
butch they
they
they they toss out any
um artistic
direction, any one
sort of vision for the sake
of casting as wider net as possible.
Yeah, and it's paid off
because the game is absolutely fucking huge.
The fandoms for it
are
gargantuan in size,
especially when it comes to
sort of the cosplay, fan art,
porn, sexual
culture behind it. The sexual
stuff is what's the weirdest
to me. Why is that the weirdest?
To me, it's the most fucking obvious.
Look at the way they design all of their female characters.
Why did they intentionally?
make an underage character
and then have her wear
like a skin type thing
which ones I'm not familiar
the Korean one oh diva
oh the like mech one
she's not underage like I don't think
she's like 18 or something
even if the character in law is underage
you could never tell because of the art style
being so yeah cartooning goofy anyway
but the point is the way they design all the
female characters
is so just like
come on they are all the same like look all their
body types besides the Russian
and that ice one
right yeah they are
all like the same identical
like body all of that because they're trying
to fit into that same
these fireworks are driving me
fucking crazy
thanks
what do we do to deserve this
we filmed on a
Overwatch fans are fucking coming for us
yeah holy shit the fireworks
have stopped
but the
you can like the game all you want
yeah we're not talking about the mechanics of the game at all we're just talking purely about advertising
art direction character design kind of stuff it's it's so obnoxious it's cocky obnoxious and
what it's so cynical to me like you can see through every decision you can see how it was all
made through like market testing and you know all that kind of group analysis statistics kind of stuff
And it's like, well, with this demographic, this character will do well.
And with this one, we've got to make sure we hit all of these different beats.
And it's like...
But it's like that, to do that, that's quite an accomplishment to do it the way they have.
I'm saying, look, in terms of creating a very popular new franchise in gaming
that's successful that people latch onto, business-wise, it's very successful.
but to me
it's just
I can see through the ruse
or whatever
I don't know
Well I found
There's something off about it
I always get this weird vibe
I get the same kind of feelings with
with destiny as well
Nearly every Activition
Blizzard product
But it's like so
The artistic merits of it
Are so like being outweighed
By the business side of it
To me
Of all the game company
they show the business mindset and business plans more than any of a company like it's very clear as day that there is all yeah and they and they use their fandoms as like a crutch as a their own little army to defend their terrible shit as well like overwatch has those terrible loot boxes or whatever they're the they almost paved the way because everyone's been defending them so it's only cosmetic whatever and now that we're honestly i think they're some of the worst
packs. Yeah. I've experienced in a game from what little I've played of
Overwatch. It's so, so unsatisfying. And it's like they fill all these packs
are loads of lines so they have a constant dialogue that's like 50 for each
character so it's just like they feel that that's the fill of all the packs. So
there's loads of filler, there's like a spray. There's like 500 sprays or
something, whatever. And then there's like two good skins for the character that you
want. It's like so you just want me to pay a spray.
And pay, and pay, and pay to get this one-time events and all this and all that.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
What I found is, because I played it quite a bit,
I found that when you really sit there and play it for like a few days straight,
you really realize how bare the game players,
there's not much of anything there at all.
It's a bare-bones game, but they've just, the way they've done it,
it's very easy to jump into.
And that's why I say bloody successful.
Successful.
I didn't play the game enough to
I can't really comment on the mechanics of it at all
because I only have to watch you guys play it when it was popular
Yeah I sort of understand why people can enjoy it
Is it not supposed to be like the team fortress
Every class has their role
And they counter each other and all that
And I can see the appeal and that
But everything removed from that
I mean whatever
What I found is like
There's no satisfaction in like playing well
because no matter what you get a kill
didn't you only play as a healer class though
I did through the early stages
because it was like
I found that fun
but then I played as everyone
and that's when I realised how bare the game was
like I'm gonna compare directly to Rainbow Six
because in terms of satisfaction that game's quite high up
when you get you when you do a really good playing Rainbow Six
you feel great
in Overwatch
because you get a kill no matter what you do
So, like, what's the point of you been trying to play well?
There's nothing, there's no grip, there's nothing to bring you back.
Well, it's funny, comparing it's something like Rainbow Six.
Um, I think just because of what the subject matter is, it's inherently less fan servicey in that way.
Mm-hmm.
But it still has fan service.
Do people defend their crummy pack system in the same way?
No.
I wouldn't say they do.
It depends, because, I mean, the...
like with this they just had a Halloween event for example in every six yeah everybody knows that's
bullshit and what they did with it you get but watch has been doing that exact same thing for years
at this point yeah i mean i'm sure people do defend it but a lot of the the general
consensus of rain but for for certain rainbow six things is a lot more negative than what it would
be for overwatch well i don't understand it's like even if you
love the art style of overwatch you love the
gameplay you love the hook of the game
that doesn't mean you can't be critical of the crummy stuff
in it yeah you know like surely
you should be more critical because you want it to be
better because it's your thing it's your favorite
thing you know there's no
good just sitting back and
defending it because you're the only one who's
getting screwed by it if you're constantly telling
them that it's okay and now look
with everyone always going on about
these overwatch packs and how good
they are and they're even them
from a business like
PR level they're always saying
hey everyone's
everyone's going on about
Battlefront 2 loop boxes
but we're over here
we've been doing it our way and we think this is the best
way kind of shit and it's like fuck you
if I remember early on when the game
came out like a box is like £1.40
1 pound 50 for a box
which is fucking
stupidly expensive
for a single market transaction box
might be one but that's just
what I remember
No excuse for it, man.
Dib-a-dib-dib pregnant pause.
He's doing it again.
Anything else on our minds before we head over into the break?
You've definitely got an opinion on maybe succeed.
What's that?
You think it's like got no character.
No, let me clarify what?
In the group chat, I was saying, I can't remember why it came up.
I was talking about games that have character.
in some way
and I was finding it hard to come up with a
um
a good game to hate on
for no real reason
no it's just
it's just a fun little experiment
what to you is a game with good character
a game with character
it can't be a single player game because we're talking
can't be a single player game we're talking in comparison to
siege see a character
doesn't necessarily mean
I know
I know
It's like a criticism
Or not
Because like there are movies
That don't have character
But the story and the
You know
The acting and everything
Can still be good in it
At the end of the day
But it can lack character
Sometimes intentionally
Yeah
I would say
Because it's just on my mind right now
I think
Fortnite has character
It doesn't mean
I like it necessarily
believe, but I think it does have character to it.
In comparison
to something like PubG, which has absolutely
no character to it whatsoever.
That's a character. And that's why it's failing at this
point, because what do you have to attach yourself
to, if not that?
How do you...
How do you quantify a character?
I was somewhat subjective, I guess.
Like, throw something
at me, and I'll tell you if I think it has any character or not.
I guess I would just, easiest way
is something that you can remember.
If it's got a character, you can remember it.
Some personality, some flair, like a vision to it, you know?
So, but what I want to know is how you describe character.
So, oh.
Oh.
We can try in part two, but.
Okay.
Well, we'll come back.
after these messages and we'll uh we'll come back to that not very note welcome back to part
two of the jar show um right we're going to get to the questions right after we finish this thing
about character or whatever yes a question i wanted to know like can you describe can you
quantify let's take halo something you love okay this is a great example i imagine to you
but has quite a lot of character.
Mm-hmm.
What gives it character?
Let's see.
With Halo specifically, it would be the writing, the music, the art direction, the thoughtfulness
and cohesion of all the world design and the story and how thoughtful everything is.
Where contrasts that with when 343 took over with Halo, and now suddenly the universe has no character,
the art direction is different.
The writing is coming from such a different angle
from such a different place.
And the music?
And the music.
Every element of it lacks that same cohesion
that it once had.
What else?
How about like, I have no affinity for,
no pun intended for any of the COD games.
What is the pun?
Affinity Ward.
it's in
but
I think
some of the
Cod games do have
a lot of character
Black Ops 1 baby
Black Ops 1 that is
Black Ops 1 does
I believe
the first modern warfare
has character to it as well
as much character as Rainbow 6
Yeah they're equal
To be fair I don't know that one
No I just don't say Rainbow 6
is more character than first Cod
Cod 4
and you're probably right obviously things with a some kind of narrative it's easier to
embody more character or what I'm what I'm trying to describe you but would you say
Overwatch has character yes yes so it does it does it does have character it's just not
not one that I like particularly let's think of things that
A good that don't have character.
Well, does Rainbow 6 have character to you?
Removing the character you give it from your memories with the game.
That's the thing, the other people that you're playing with give it character, like every situation.
Then by that logic, then destiny is full of character because...
No.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it's the same thing.
You're playing with friends.
All of your memories of playing the game are raiding together, the funny moments and jokes you tell each other and all that.
I don't mean in that way
I mean the way
the player characters
interact with one another
you know in terms of gameplay
um obviously I'm not the most familiar
you mean mechanically the
yeah
the rock paper scissors and everything
and has a
I can't remember the word you used earlier
there's a difference between
having like a really good
fundamental design
like mechanical design
and a product
like in there it is
there's the fireworks for fuck so we waited as well to
stop and the difference
of like a good example
would be something like
you ever seen that movie oblivion
with Tom Cruise
that is a movie to me that has no character
whatsoever and it's just like everything about it's
fine it looks pretty the story is
relatively interesting the acting's good
but at the end of it all it's missing
that X factor it's missing that character
yeah
it's a hard thing to quantify
it's like you say
it can work to the advantages of some
things and sometimes well like yeah
like a lot of I don't know Stanley Kubrick's
movies
lots of them do have character but some of them
purposefully pull that
that level back and have a more
detached view on things and it enhances
every element of it.
Hmm.
I was just being pedantic was all originally.
That's why I was making fun of 306.
I assumed you were mainly doing it to piss off James and Root.
Yeah, because I knew one of them would bite.
And the thing is, you've never really liked that genre or that setting.
You mean like modern warfare kind of?
Any sort of military...
Because I don't.
Modern-ish.
In games.
I don't like it in games.
I like it in movies.
yeah and I think not video games I think that's like fine like that's your thing
this really hurts stop leave it alone yeah I've never really liked that whole modern
militaristic shooter thing it's just I don't know it's a little too close to home to me I
don't want to be thinking about that all the time what I can say of siege is that
siege has a very not like on the fourth one but has a very the soundtrack it has is in the
back but it definitely does add to the actual
game, like, compared to other military shooters, like, Arm or, like, Cod.
Yeah, it has a very signature sound to it.
Like, there's this, at the moment with Operation Grim Sky, on the main menu, there's this
certain song that's very tense, and it reminds me of that one scene in Sicario, and I get
very strong vibes off that, that's character.
The thing, though, with Rainbow 6 that I prefer to other military, modern shooters, is how,
Goofy it is.
Goofy.
It's not serious, you know?
It seems like it.
You know, there's like, yeah.
Rainbow Six has those sort of introductory
cutscenes for characters and stuff.
Which they only had for the first, the original
one wrote, those original ones
from what I've seen of them are like super
bland. Yeah.
Really like, exactly what I'm talking about.
That, that's the
apart from what I've said before, it's like
the original like game when it launched.
It was so that, it was like so bland.
Like even the player cards when you pick the
characters, I've said that the newer
ones, they actually have faces, they have more
character than the
original ones, which are very
carb or cut out, generic
speck-off soldier.
Interesting. I think
you're
you're totally right.
Like
I was saying,
it's more like what you get from
the game. I can't
see myself
or see anyone being allured to the game
because of its, like, character.
Yeah, it's not like...
With something like Overwatch,
a lot of people get into it
because of the character,
because of the art direction,
because of, yeah,
all of that side of it.
But usually when people are talking
about Rainbow 6,
it's because of this ridiculous
gameplay thing they did
or, you know,
an awesome moment like that
or just how mechanically sound
that game is.
And yeah,
like Jim said,
it is goofy.
There's a certain level of just like...
There are whole like franchises and properties that purely ride off that that character thing.
Look at something like Kingdom Hearts, which is just complete nonsense story-wise, but people are so attached to it because of that.
Because of Disney.
Or like Final Fantasy 15.
The only thing it has is that.
That's the only thing people like about it.
That's kind of to me like it's...
That is a characterless game to me.
No, yeah, no, yeah, definitely.
Like, I'm comparing it.
Like, the four characters in the game
wear, like, black leather jackets,
the four white boys that run around being cool.
I find that game was so very mismatching,
because it's like, you start the game
and it's black suits and all of that,
but then you go into, like, this fucking desert
with, like, loads of, like, 70s and five stars, really.
It's definitely muddled, but there is something there to it.
There is some...
The game director, like, he has...
ideas sure they're corny they're dumb they're stupid but that's what a lot of people like
is the same people the same reason people love um kajima's games like metal gear is incredibly
stupid and corny and dumb and people love that character and they'll forgive things they
won't and other things because of that it's corny and dumb in a ridiculous funny way
whereas i found final fantasy 15 abysmal i find a lot of it funny though in that game
I don't really even like that game very much but I wouldn't say it's characterless
I'd say it's clumsy in its execution.
I think when you imagine
like Japanese
JRP, that is it.
No, because when I imagine JRP, I think of
really solid
games.
And a lot of character, to be honest.
I think of Final Fantasy, strange.
Final Fantasy 13, which is kind of that.
I'm talking like a blurred image, like.
The most, you know, by the books
as if like a machine was to print.
out a GRP. Okay.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Time for some of them questions.
Where can people ask us questions, Alex?
If you want to leave your own questions for us to possibly answer on the show head over to
the child media Reddit, there's a thread at the top.
Before you begin, though, I notice there's a post from someone called Breedix who says,
Hey, boys, your shit is the shit, by the way, and I listened to it.
every night before I sleep.
Anyway, is there any chance you could shout my girlfriend out?
She's going through a hard time at the moment,
and I think it would mean a lot to her.
Regards Jalapino James.
My girlfriend's name is Elizabeth. Cheers.
Yeah, you're totally real girlfriend.
Shout out to you.
Just joshing you, maybe.
Sussplant says,
if you could change yourself
into a video game
no
do you want to restart that question
I'm gonna start that again
if you could change yourself in a video game
character creator i.e. Dark Souls or Sims
what would you change about yourselves
my big fucking tiddies
yeah I'd probably
would make myself thinner
hmm
so then I can continue eating donuts and shit
You know, imagine if every time you gain weight or, like, do anything, like, fall off a cliff and break, like, loads of bones in your face.
And you just go back to the character editor and just...
Yeah.
I'm just going to straight up say I wouldn't change anything.
Oh, shit, son.
That's morality much.
Right there.
This, this person, me, James, I'm this.
If I change this, I'm not James anymore.
It depends, though, right?
Because if it is the Dark Souls editor, you're always going to look.
horrible and if it's the fallout editor you're always going to look kind of weird and janky pretty
much every editor in every game oh my god we're being attacked again get your heads down
why these people shooting fireworks off what are they what are they proven man doing it right next
in this crowded neighborhood yeah at what time some people work shifts some people got to be at
work tomorrow morning.
Some people want to record podcasts, you know?
God, it's genuinely really annoying.
Well, there's a few good character creators, um, like,
Soul Calibur.
That one is pretty funny.
Um,
I'd also give myself a sick as fuck beard.
Hmm.
That's a good one.
Do you not grow facial at then?
Does it not just...
I, I, I grow hair out of the two,
corners of my chin and one
side of my lip
that's my facial hair capabilities
it just kind of grows everywhere and it goes
I have really bad facial hair growth
no you don't
you've got like a
even 5 o'clock shadow
I know but this this is like
six this is like five days Jim
it goes from completely clean to this
in five days and it's
that's fine
yeah that's what everyone wants
no that is what everyone wants
apart from the one man who has it
It's always the way.
Grass is always greener, yo.
Yeah, grass is always greener.
I'm happy I only get like three hairs on my face every six months.
I'm happy mine's all golden, so you can't see it
unless the sun perfectly shines at the right angle.
I can see it white now.
No, but the problem is mine also goes ginger.
So if I leave it on.
Got something against gingers, do we?
Nothing.
I didn't realize we were attackers on this show.
I used to be blonde, Alex, and I have ginger facial air.
I'm borderline ginger, okay?
I am blonde
That's something strange
I get one ginger hair
Out of my chin
On the right side of my chin
Do you know actually what?
I'm actually going grey
Like greyness is morphing into my hair
More often than now
Like that area is all growing grey
I could be like
25 and be full grey
That's fine though
I think grey hair is cool
Yeah
I love grey hair as well
I'm about white hair too
I'm gonna rock
If it was Roger Sterling
Looks amazing
He does
In Madman, holy fucks, he look good.
He looks really cool.
I'd like to be 21 years old and look like him.
Never get ID'd.
You know what, I've never been ID'd.
Ever.
Because you don't buy anything that needs for ID.
Even when I...
Jim, tell the story of what happened the other day.
I don't think of me ever did.
So, regarding IDs.
So I'm buying a bottle of wine, right?
Which, obviously, why is a kid going to buy wine?
All famous.
Right.
winey.
True.
And I was buying the wine to put in a pasta sauce.
I wasn't going to drink the wine to get drunk.
Cooking something, which is something.
I was going to cook something with a bottle of wine, right?
And so I'm at the checkout, the self-scan, do it all.
And then the lady walks up and she's like, you got ID.
You look like a little baby.
So I whip up my ID.
I'm like, there you go.
Right as Alex walks up.
Because I was on a different self-scan.
And Alex had just finished buying his own stuff, walked up next to me, and she said,
Does your friend have ID?
And, uh...
Not realizing you even had wine on you.
Yeah, because I'd gone away from Alex in the shop to get the wine.
So he had no idea.
So he came up to me.
She asked for Alex's ID.
Alex didn't bring his wallet because he wanted to pay with Apple Pay.
So she took my wine away.
And Alex had his fucking car keys and his Apple Watch showing.
Like a 17 year old has a...
fucking BMW and
a fucking Apple Watch
It's just it's ridiculous
Like there's a certain level where
She took it away
I was fucking I
I was close to like flipping out
I know
Technically she was doing her job
But like
I wasn't buying it for him
I was buying it for me
To use in cooking
Yeah why are you taking the shit away from me
Fucking hell it pissed me off
Like they have to
And as if
Alex is
three years older than me right when we stand next to each other he looks older than me yes why did
she ask for his idea because he walked up and it you they just have to cover all the bases
I guess legally she did the right thing but morally she's reprehensible yeah she's evil
she's an evil evil evil woman why do you clearly both don't look like you're underage
problem is um i remember when i worked in retail they teach you once you ask you have to commit you
can't yeah if they don't have idea on you you have to take it away
so she she she dug her own grave with that one
what by asking you yeah i know but i've had to me it's just like you go to buy a can of
red bull now because you have to be have a identification and i was just like no i don't have
it for fucking red bull so i just didn't buy it what do you have to be 16
You have to be 18 to buy well.
I thought it was 16.
You have to be 18 to buy
Are you sure it's 18?
Yeah, I thought it's 60.
I'm really sure now it's 18 now.
I want to do a quick fact check on that.
The person who who
who had to ID me
has IDed me before.
So surely they'd know that
pisses me off.
They just know it's you.
It's like this face is pretty noticeable
when you've seen it once.
You know this face.
Because it's um
distinct, I guess.
And especially when I go in at the same time,
like in the evening where it's empty.
It's like I'm obviously that same person
with that loud car.
It's hard to tell when you have someone
who's kind of like a busybody
jobs worth, you know what I mean?
They love getting to ask people with IDs
aside from the people who are just doing their job
and they just don't want to get in trouble.
Sort of thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's under 16s.
Is it?
So you're IDed for 16.
Yeah, I remember...
I was ID for 16 and I clearly
I looked worse than this
I haven't saved at all for like two weeks
I looked a fucking mess of these shorts
I remember not long ago we were in the same
Tesco and I did a
sneaky little
deny of the
the ID because
as she was walking up
I said do you really think she's going to think I'm under
16 and she would have definitely heard that
and she didn't ID me
oh yeah because I asked you I was like have you got ID
and then you said that as she
I didn't know she was there, but she didn't ID me.
What are you buying?
Like a monster.
Oh.
Yeah, you're right.
He was buying monster.
I got ID'd for 12s still.
I got ID'd for buying Infinity War on.
Really?
I'm not joking.
That is fucking lame.
I don't know.
What is it about your face?
He does not look young, though.
You slightly maybe...
From a distance, somebody might think you're young.
I think all of us look like men.
Yeah, yeah.
Damn straight.
And we sound like men, too.
I think there's certain things that, like, give it away.
Because if you were holding car keys, I think people would just be like,
obviously, he's not going to be like fucking 16.
Made me furious, though.
I was IDed for buying glue as well.
Glue.
Yeah, because I wanted to fix my wallet
Because it was coming apart
Why are you fixing your wallet with glue
Like super glue
Because one of the little
One of the flaps
Was sort of where you put the coins in
What material was this wallet made out of
It's a leather wallet
Well he's using super glue to fix a wallet
You stitch it
No you don't understand
It wasn't like the actual leather flaps
But the fabric inside
were...
Oh, did it work?
Yeah, mine's doing that right now.
Surely you just fuck up your wallet,
so then there would be a lump of glue.
It's just like, what's the point?
Yeah, you use one of those glues that just...
You know, it's not like a huge clump.
Anyway, this is a stupid topic.
First, you have mismatching cutlery,
no, you glue a leather wallet back together.
Yeah, you don't understand the context.
Anyway, J-R- is choir.
Queer spelled the way you used to spell...
We used to spell queer.
How did we spell queer?
Q-U-I-E
No, we always used to spell it
Q-U-E-E-R
That's how it is
spelled it, exactly, we used to spell it the white thing
No, we would spell it wrong
No, we would. Anyway, they ask, if you could do
one thing without suffering the consequences, what would it be?
I'd do the fucking biggest...
Just burnout down Alex's street for like a good minute straight
and then drive off.
Which I could probably do it up with
having any consequences we'll have to wait and see but yeah but this question was if
you knew there were going to be no okay if I knew I can't answer this question
Jesus Jim ooh uh say the N word mine would be I'd like to just go through town
and you know like when you nearly punch people in the head just to scare them and they
kind of flinch away.
That's the
lamest thing. But just do that
to everyone in town.
And there'd be no consequences.
What would be the consequence of that?
People would think you're an asshole.
Yeah. Someone might
fight you.
People think you...
People will just assume
you're an asshole anyway. You don't have to do anything
in society for people to think that.
Is that true? I don't believe that.
No, I believe the opposite.
Yeah. The majority of people...
You're in my good book until you do something
Twatty.
No, but some people don't think like that.
Some, not all.
I don't...
And not most.
I said some.
A few.
I said some.
A minority.
A minority is still some.
Maybe it's me.
Just you?
Just because I'm just in a loud car and...
Apparently there's someone in this week's Reddit thread who really wanted their question
answered so they were downvoting.
every other questions
try and get to
it's up
don't know
what the question is
though
um
you're a really
good one
about like
Hong Kong
Jarr's Choir's
choir has another one
is there anything
that makes you
irrationally angry
yes
Rainbow 6
Overwatch
I just think
a lot of
fandom culture
in general
pesses me off
yes
I think you guys
would know
because whenever I get
like
really angry
about something
I always want about it
in the group
chat and it's always like the
just the worst things
I'm trying to think of just things that make
me angry and I can't
um when people don't indicate
well yeah you you've
screamed while driving because people
haven't indicated
I really wanted you to get the clip of you
screaming at that guy from your
dash cam would have been so funny
okay I do scream
pretty loudly but I couldn't handle it
it was too funny.
I don't think I get
angry at things.
I think I'm a relatively chill person in general.
Rubin makes you
irrationally angry.
Most of the time, yeah.
James is
the best at triggering Rubin.
James and Rubin are yin and yang.
Yeah.
We trigger each other so hard.
No, but we go
it's like at this point we both know it so Jim will say something we will just be like
we do this every other week we're used to this Jamie just we both know that we just
it takes a tiny thing and we'll just go a fucking a shit at each other just like
insulting each other like seriously then they'll just be like okay end and we've
done that for like how many years now just straight every year ever since you've
known each other I feel like all of us have the one that can trigger them the
most who triggers me and who triggers james me me that's definitely true no no just saying that
sometimes i'll just be doing something and i'll think about something you do or say and i just get
angry at it there you go i can annoy james so easily we'll have to do is just do this
Minion Ray underscore 3,000 asks,
Who out of everyone in Jarre do you think acts the most English?
Well, saying that.
When did you say it like that?
He's trying to do an English accent.
We both have that same level of like pronunciation for words, like quass.
It's pronunciation.
Shut up, Jamie.
Like, we don't...
We don't have like very many very...
variables and how we pronounce things.
We're kind of very similar in that regard, even though you're not even English.
It's like...
Who acts the most English?
Well, what...
What constitutes acting English?
Being a little...
Stereotypes.
Being a stereotype, basically.
A stereotypical Brit drinks tea.
You drink the most tea.
Okay, no.
Yeah, mate.
Call...
I think...
Is...
Not confrontational.
Yeah.
Avoid confrontational.
at any in any form
um
is overly
polite
mm-hmm
I think
we all are like
is miserable all the time
especially when it's cold
talks about the weather a lot
that's just all of us
mm-hmm
weather does not make me miserable
I just like
God I think recently
when when the weather just dipped
I felt horrible
just like unbelievable
just like
unbelievably miserable
I don't
I can't say
a sad disorder bro
I think all of us are very much
equal in how like British we are
technically
I think you're the most British
actually now aren't you like
American
well yeah
there's parts
I means I'm the most British
wait in terms of like
well not even then
because
yeah who colonised
New Zealand
okay about this
who likes chocolate
Rock ice is the most.
That's the simple way to...
Yeah, James wins.
Yeah.
Okay, I have...
I fucking hate chokos.
I have, I do have American blood in me.
Scorpion sandwich says, when you were younger, what was the stupidest thing you did during Halloween?
Uh, did we film a video during Halloween?
Yeah, that's what... remember, we...
We did it, um, we did that bin video.
Moon Man lives in a bin.
Moon Man lives in a bin.
That was Halloween?
Yeah, no, that was Christmas lights turning on.
So that was December.
I could have sworn that was Halloween.
Nah, it was the Christmas lights.
Was it?
Yeah.
Why did it look like such a nice day in that video?
Because it was sunset.
Hmm.
I don't know. I forgot.
We, we, we were never into Halloween.
We probably did something when we lived in Jersey.
But there was more of a community.
Went to treating.
We were fucking mad kids, we were.
Yeah.
I just remember hearing lots of stories of people being cheeky on Halloween.
We didn't do shit.
Halloween was just like, you get your sweets and then you get out.
Yeah, you get your sweets, you get out.
You check through them to make sure there's no poison in them.
And then...
No raisin.
And then you really obsessively sort them into.
to, you know.
Areas?
Areas.
I've only gone trickle treating once.
What the fuck?
And after I went trickle treating, I went in a swimming pool.
Okay.
And I was like swimming pool as well.
Cool story, bro.
Bringing that meme back, everybody.
Lord Dead Den says,
if you could force the other members of the cast to watch slash reads slash play anything all the way through,
no matter how bad or good, what would it be?
I'd make you play through Dark Souls.
I'd make us watch Fast and Furious.
Can't I just play Blood Born?
No.
You had your chance.
Alex will play for it Culp.
Budbourne?
Dark Souls won.
James couldn't beat the Capra demon on Dark Souls.
Really?
Yeah.
Sorry.
My mind isn't built for that.
Wait, your answer was Fast and Furious.
Tokyo Drift, which is going to happen.
You can't...
Yeah, I'm not against...
Yeah, I want to watch that, though.
We need to watch all of them in one day.
They're too boring.
You couldn't even do it.
No, Fast and Furious...
Okay, Tokyo Drift is a bit boring,
but the good parts are like...
I would make you read the Bible.
That's horrible.
That's really horrible.
I wouldn't do it.
I told you I'm the king of triggering Jane.
no Alex if that if I had to do that in like a certain period of time I'd kill myself
and on that note that's the end of the episode thanks for listening everybody to
this episode of the Jarkas consider supporting us you should just end it there
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