JAR Media Posdact - Where Sorry - 369

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

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Welcome, good morning, good afternoon or evening or evening or night, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Jarmu's your podcast. 6-9. 369. 3-6-9. You had what? Oh, shit. Anyway, I suppose that kind of...

That says 369. That says 369. That says 369 I was going to make a 69 joke but I'm not going to do that 69 That's kind of like the sucking each other off manoeuvre

No that's nosing asshole Maneuver What So we got drama man We got drama man But I guess I'm Alex joined by Jim and James

Hello But we get too deep into the show Let me shout out those Jal Media patrons over at the Patreon to make the audio versions of the show possible get their names read out in the first

or second week of each month like the previous episode but get in there for next month get your Tim stickers Tim? Oh yeah

the important man he's spreading you're spreading you're spreading far and wide so head over to the spring store check out Timothy Can you stop sticker bombing please in public

It's disrespectful I don't do that No I do do it No no don't do it Why is it acceptable Well I think you decide it's not for anyone to say

no don't don't no no no I'm deciding they're representing jar media one of the someone might go to Japan and do it and then they'll literally be to they will disgust everyone in the society and that'll be on our behalf and that's not on I'm fine with it

no how I just got bit oh she bited go away Billy bite that's upset me and that's mean she kept clawing me and when I took the claws out oh poor babies just like being clawed I don't like being bit.

I do. A bit by the cat. So, um... Sorry. Look at my scar. I'll tell you what's scarring goes. Something that needs to be addressed. Okay?

The drama. This is the drama. The jarama. The jarama. The jarama of the week. Now, I know people were anticipating the latest entry in a certain saga. Um, a certain S-T-I-N-G. And certain things in the start.

stock market kind of changing things happening interest rates being what they are we're kind of in a position where we're going to have to put a pin on sting part four um which i know you're not going to like to hear i know no one's going to be happy about it i know james has crestfallen in particular about this he's really crestfallen um even though james does kind of wind up winning from this because it means his his series gets to you you serve No, I'm willing to announce right now that we're now and is going, it's not, it's being cancelled. There's not going to be run around it too. Oh man, layers of it.

Couldn't prime me before the show man, huh? Man, what's so, that means like we're, we're going full marble right now. We're like putting our plans on hold. We're reassessing. Yeah, our, um, what do they call it? The like graph with all of the, the timeline. No, the, the, the, the, what are they? They use it in video games as well.

The, like, plan. It's like their plan for the... I know what you mean. The timetables? No, it's not the timetable. Their plan? Yeah, they're like content that's coming in the future. Roadmap.

Oh, roadmap. The roadmap. The roadmap. The roadmap is being re-assessed. Reroded. Yeah, re-rail-roated. Yeah, but being railroaded into... Re-desertialized.

and reassessing the railroads of the road map map I find it funny on retrospect that the Halo Road Halo infinite roadmap was just We're finishing the game We're finishing the game

We're finishing the game Game might be finished We're finishing the game Two years later They didn't finish the game They've given up on it You should listen to me from day one Should listen to me from day

Minus 1 Hey you were confident on that game. Me, you know, I wasn't. Who you are? I was the trepidacious one and people were like... You loved it, James. You can't gaslight mean to myself.

Let's do some housekeeping and we round out some of those conversations from the previous week. There was... I don't normally do this, but there was like a notification on the Jaya Media YouTube not on the last episode. But I just saw this.

It was a comment left on one of the shorts. Three stoners on a podcast. on YouTube shorts talking about controversy. How controversial. I'm not stoner. I've not been stoned. That's fine, yeah. I've never seen that, like...

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't describe myself as a stung. Yeah, I just thought that was an interesting one. Oh, they're men on a podcast, they must be stoned. Yeah. Because only all men smoke weed, the vagina. The episodes where people are like, oh, they're clearly stoned on this one. never true always wrong yeah until every time they've commented that it's been wrong every time

yeah the episode where you are it's been true they've never know so it's like what do you mean yeah you actually have no clue no because i'm also involved in the ones where it's like or clearly stoned it's like i've never been stoned on an episode yeah ever yeah the time is the way you guys are i don't i don't even know you tell me like i'm on player it's been literal like years yeah yeah i mean i don't think i even knew but at the time Yeah, it's like, sometimes things just happened like last episode, right, where I'd have my, I had my peach ice tea making me go crazy, give me a little bit of excitement. It's e-numbers, it's not asterns, it's e-numbers. Making me a little bit excited.

I didn't know that that was like the early stages of influenza as well. So I had this like, nicey cult. I was feeling like, yeah, like, what's the term? delirium dilerium which then of course makes the wackiness come out in droves you know

Zoomis basically yeah I had the Zoomies last episode I hate getting the Zoomes do you ever get the Zoomies where you're just actually going to cry like sometimes I'll be laying in bed

it would be 11 o'clock and I'll get hit by Zomi so much that it was like I don't want to around the house screaming why not I'm going to cry well of course some of the comments you never had that look It was a long time ago, I had that, to be fair.

Some of the comments obviously were, and I'm sorry again, man, in relation to part four. People were, they had theories going. Like the Enigma 2897. Sting Part 4 predictions. Final sponsor is Robotics. Jim Colossal. You just said that name.

Obviously, I would have beeped it. Jim Colossal fart and microphone stinks up entire sense. James's chair breaks midcast It can't happen It's already broken New James opinion shatters the phone booth Ends on a cliffhanger Sting Part 4

Part 2 Teased in final moments Of show I don't think there's an opinion I can have That's going to divide anyone again That's been too bad That's true actually maybe

It's over I'm not controversial anymore I've moved on Part of what we're scared of With Sting part 4 is the kind of Dune problem where like part four for us is kind of like the first Dune novel where it's quite

complicated, difficult to translate might... Panked, might need two, if not three parts you know, like Harry Potter style or Hobbit style or the other one Fast and Furious X style

there's Twilight, there's The Hunger Game The Hunger Game style So the options are there Why haven't we had games that are part one and part two? I can actual part one and part one two story, not a sequel. The new Final Fantasy seven remakes. That is one, yeah, that is one. That's true.

Telltale? Yeah. Halo 3? No, Halo 2. Halo 2 kind of was, yeah. Halo 2 into Halo 3. True. Cajol says the editing of these recent casts of

been so surreal and chaotic, I love it, to keep it up. No, no. Look, it's argy. Someone, Yamo Yuska was coming to your defence, James. James, wearing underwear to go to sleep is completely normal. What were they talking about, lo? Yeah, why the hell don't you wear underwear to go to sleep? This was, uh, I feel like this is more of a gym issue.

I don't remember having a protest of James's tidy wodies. When you wear tighty witties, I don't wear tightie witties. I don't wear tighty wighties. Do you want me to pull me underware? I don't know. Only if they're tighty whities. They're not the dicknory. Well, why would I want to see your underwear if they're not Titi Witties? I don't sleep in Titi Witties.

Like, man can't even sleep naked. It's impossible. It's extremely possible. It's not. No, no. There was one really elaborate, long comment that was upset by you saying that if I didn't screenshadow. No, why? No, I want to know why they're upset about that.

Because that's not true. It's nice sleeping naked. No, it's not. You get wee everywhere, a bit of poo, a bit of calm. No, no, no, no, no. You can't sleep with that, that free. You can. No, it's so uncomfortable.

It's like just, it's so uncomfortable. I feel like I'm going to have a panic attack. That's you, man. That's one of you. Obviously, I'm talking from my point of view, because it's my opinion. It's like a texture thing. It's not, well, it is. It's a texture on the knob type of thing.

It's cut texture, and it's like, when you're trying to, like, roll over in bed and it's just, like, slapping around, it's like, this is not comfortable. Slapping around. You're helicoptering in bed. Yeah, it seems that's how you roll over, is you helicopter with an,

momentum to move you it's like you don't want it's like you're going to be laying on your testicles then no no you like you grab each ball and like put each leg into them it's like a sleeping bag and then you grab the winky and use it like a body pillar like that sleeping naked is like not on it's like and it's like I fell us I napped yesterday in socks freakish and I got up and I was just like why am I still it's a weird feeling it's so weird being a bed with socks on, really strange. It's not right.

But in the darkest, coldest nights of winter, sometimes it's just got to be done. No, no, no, no. Just socks. Naked, just socks. That's mutted.

Why? I love feeling the cold bedding against my feet. It feels so relaxing. It's like on my legs. Well, you also need the option to when you need an emergency cool down, just the old pot one foot out.

Oh, perfect. You need socks off to be able to do it. No, but have you ever felt the immense ecstasy of being in bed for a while with socks on when you feel the sleepiness coming take the socks off oh yeah I get that because you're still going to

you'll get that last hour of like you're going to get to sleep now then the the contrast between warm sock foot and cool bedding bedding yeah I get that Ozy Wozies is kind of is great status I get that I completely get that I will accept that opinion on this day. Shake hand. I'm going to accept this opinion from Moniac.

Around the Survivors, the Perimeter Create. These Sting episodes are really great. So that's another one let down. I'm sorry. Good. I'm really sorry. Oops. And Sahad 30 says a perfect trilogy like the Cars series.

Can't wait for that unnecessary part four like Toy Story and Kung Fu Panda. True. Yeah. And finally, Isaac Collins says this. This is going to be one of those episodes they look back on in two years and completely cringe. Why? We can only cringe if we actually go back on watch it. Yeah.

Which I don't do. Yeah, if... I do that sometimes. I went back and listened to this segment. I think it was from 2019 where we came up with the cult, the jar cult and the rules. Okay. And that was a funny segment. Was that Bracket Blue?

That was... This was after Bracket Blue. Okay. Bracket Blue rocked. That was the political campaign. Yeah. I just, I generally feel like I don't need to know anything I've ever done. I go to bed, I go to bed not, like, forgetting, like, what I did seven years ago.

That's always an option, you know. Ignance is bliss. Ignant's bliss. Does some... Do you consider yourself a fresh human every day? a human born fresh every day not every day every few days every week

you only feel like that when you've actually slept properly so on the weekends it's like you've got fresh bit of life and you're motivated to do things on your weekend because you haven't got to go to work but there is an argument to be made that the person who wakes up every day is a different person because there's a break yeah because one of my cells

has moved around in my sleep so yeah I'm a different person fundamentally I'm different not in your like biological etymology no because there's not in your day to day there's not much changing but there is enough of a change there's not there's a break

in continuity in your life experience I don't think so because when you're going to work when you're going to work every day and you're in that routine there's nothing cute there's no big change that's going to happen and the only time you're going to wake up and feel like there's a change is if you're like planning something or doing something different to break up

that monotomy of your data day life. So when you're like, oh, I've got them going away or I'm doing X or Y, that's when it's like you're changing in your mind because you're doing things and experiences that are going to make you grow. And it's that growth that is the different change. So if you're doing in a week period of five days, you've done nothing and thought of nothing you've not changed when you get to the weekend. It's those new experiences and the new ideas you have and the new plans you have. Tell that to Charlie Foof. That was an experience.

Getting broken down in that car Was an experience In Charlie? Yep The name isn't Charlie Foof Fairly on running away This was projected onto me in my car I really like it

And it really fits, doesn't it? Do you want to trade cars So you can have Shirley Foof? What have you got against Charlie? You've like suddenly turned around it. Look at the car, it's not a Charlie A Charlie's like a It is a Charlie

No No, it's not. too sporty to be Charlie. Sorry, all the Charlie's listening. What does a really sporty Charlie listening? A 40? Sporty Charlie. Sporty Charlie is listening right now and it's like,

what the hell man? I'm talking about a car. I'm not talking about an actual person. Really, sporty Charlie with his sporty car. No, but look at that car is not Charlie. You've seen Charlie food for his car? It behaves like a Charlie though. What, shittly? Like it's going to explode.

It'll be a second of the time of it. Does your car behave that way? Oh, blue drive shafts up and it going on a corner. That was kind of on you, right? No, forget what I did. No, forget what I did the week before. Not on me. Doom but burnouts in it.

Constantly not blow that car up. Okay. I can imagine some outlaws. James House and Charlie Foof. Outlaws. On the run. Get back here, Charlie. Charlie foo.

No. Okay The Foof gang I'm not a Charlie Foof fan His notorious horse Charlie Foof The Foof gang and the house gang have been warring Why are you so obsessed with Cowboys

Because it's cool They are cool I do you think knights are cooler There's definitely some There's definitely some romanticism To knights Yeah massively Yeah

Like the old West is romanticised as well It's not as romanticised for me I don't say it that way It's like this You think this mainly because of the media you've consumed But so do you But then actually look back at the history of actual cowboys Realism, it's like you want to be a fucking cowboy

No I don't want to be a cowboy I think is a cool setting for things Yeah the fantasized setting of it Yeah No the real setting is cool well just that period being yeah but the wild west awesome like lawless like Lego land the wild west I was looking at that I was looking at the like 90s Lego set and there is

they did a line of like cowboy sets yeah and there was a fort they did it was called like Fort Lego Dave or something Fort Mercer bro it's like one of the best sets ever I think it's my white whale set I've looked on Brickling it's like 300 quid now It probably was like 50 quid when it came out. Yeah, probably less. Probably less, given the, when it came out and the... It was probably like five pound. It was probably like...

Fivep. Yeah. A shilling. It's probably like 20% of what house costs. A shilling? Yeah. Couple shillings, you can get yourself of property. Yeah, bro.

Going back, though, what's cool? Leggerardo. See, that is very cool. I like that. It's like a proper just cowboy. fort right there. So, but... The wagon with the, the cannon all?

Yeah. It's like a proper cool line. See, when you think about that era of like the cow... When was the cowboy, it was like late 1800s? It was like started to be the end of the cowboy year. Yeah, it was ending the, like, 1910 or something. Yeah, so you think peak 1800s, honestly. Honestly, I think European history more than during that time is probably...

No, that's the little. The industrial revolution. Jesus, no thanks. Little boys cleaning chimneys and stuff, that's lame. Like, cowboys cool. Like, the frontier, like, tame in the frontier. But then at the same time, at that same ear, you've probably got the death of the Shogun era in Japan.

That's also highly fascinating. Both are cool, though. Well, a lot of, like, cowboy stuff is inspired by Japanese, like, Shogun. Yeah, Shogun Samurai stuff, because they kind of, represent the same thing. Yeah, and it's like I'm a wheeb if you haven't weird.

Everyone knows I'm a f***ing weeps and actually it's like, if I'm going to think of a cool period it's just like, no, I'm just thinking of Jemann. So Cowboys just don't do it for me. Because you're Ameriphobic. It being America does make a difference. But even like when I think of Cowboys,

I almost think of, it wasn't the cowboy era, but it was obviously the explorative era of America. you know, the, um, Oregon Trail era, that's way more interesting than cowboys. That, like the Civil War and stuff. Yeah, but that's pre-dates. That includes cowboys, though. Have you, that's one of, that's probably my favorite. That's, isn't that early cowboy era, though?

That's really early cowboy era. Almost the origins of the cowboy era, because I thought that's when they were exploring that region that obviously opened up. But like the, the caravans and stuff, like, they were going on for ages. Because it was like an ordeal. If you lived on the West Coast and you wanted to travel... No, East Coast. It was East Coast.

It was Commonwealth's First and that was the West Coast. But I mean, like, either or if you wanted to travel from one part of America to another. And there were lots of, like, arranged marriages and such like at the time. So these two, like, strangers would just be put together. And one of them would have to travel to the other. That was like an ordeal. Yeah. No, and I found that really interesting.

but that's the thing that was that's reality so when you think of the reality of like the cowboy era besides the examples of the outlaws who were you know robbing trains and caravans and whatnot that didn't happen compared to how big the cowboy year was of what the actual reality of it was what didn't happen as in the outlaws were few and far between is what i'm saying well yeah there weren't like millions of them but people like um billy the kid and stuff like existed the um There was that crazy gang that, like, would rob trains, and they, they would, like, robin hood it. The whole thing was basically, like, redistributing wealth. It's, like, really badass stuff, and this did happen. It did, yeah. They just would have been stinky as hell while doing it. Yeah, that's a huge fight. But then, it's like, when I think of that, I also think of Butch Cassidy.

Yeah. That shit's cool as fuck. But obviously, there's a different thing to what you want about. Like, yeah, cowboys. but it's very different in the representation where it's just like, yeah, I get the romanticisation of Butch Cassidy and giving gunfights of South Americans.

Why haven't you seen Butch Cassidy? I don't know. Both of you, cowboy fans, why the fuck haven't you seen Butch Cassidy? Why haven't you seen, um, run? Ran? Ran. It's on the list.

I just haven't got one to. Also, on the subject, but actually this came to my mind that I saw the advert for sure. Yeah, I started watching it a little bit. How have you found it? I've only watched like 20 minutes of the first episode just to see what the production was like.

Is it really high production? It was pretty good production. The performances seem good. It's based on like a really famous novel. It's supposed to be like excellent. And it's just like a one-season thing, complete story. What's it on? It's on Disney Plus in the UK.

Isn't the one of the John Wick 4 guy in it? Isn't he one of main actors? The girl, the girl, from John McFour. It's the fellow, the Japanese fellow. Yeah, the, yeah. From John Wayne? Yeah. Yeah, I recognize him from other stuff, I think.

Yeah, he's quite famous. Cool guy. Yeah, that's that. And actually you even mentioned Cowboy that was on my mind because it's like, I might watch that. I've heard a lot of good things about it. It's like, I like Shogun stuff, I'm a fucking weeb, I might watch it. Yeah. I've actually just accept, I've, um, acknowledged the weeb accusation.

that have been leveraged to me for literal years I'm never going to live this down we always knew like the denying it never really yeah you always knew yeah it's obvious I'm literally I'm literally going to be important fabric from Japan to put in my car like you can't get any seriously

you can't get any more than me my weebism has ebbed and flowed over the years I've been more or less yeah probably a peaked early 20s mine probably peaked some then you're five and you watch one episode of Dragon Balluzzi and you're like this is cool no I never watched Dragon

so yeah I missed a rest in peace rest in peace my man yeah yeah I like his art a lot yeah yeah awesome character they're like slime design from Dragon Quest and he's really really underrated like vehicles and stuff you would draw um what's that uh Krono trigger did the art for yeah a lot of cool vehicle designs and stuff in that um and of course like the I've never really got into Dragon but the designs are like iconic mega iconic yeah yeah it was cool to see an artist being celebrated like that like it doesn't happen that often yeah like a like an illustrator getting like yeah i think he touched a lot of um hearts and souls yeah to be fair when um when the berserk guy

passed as well that was like an outcry of like i i just remember seeing loads of because i was still using social media at the time, seeing loads of just like images of his artwork and it's like, Jesus Christ, it's stunning stunningly like intricate. I love him in the contrast of us like, man generally

didn't do Berserk volumes because he was too busy playing Idol Master games. It's like the cutest like fucking shit ever in the man is like drawing like depravity in extensive detail. That's why present was never finished. Man was as addicted

to video games all been there yeah well um I guess before we go to mid break um I kind of want to mention Dune

a second Jim hasn't seen it yet here's the spoilers but I I think it's interesting because you definitely liked it at the least like you saw part one they're touching each other too much

they don't they don't they we I've seen again recently and they don't touch that much who Duncan Idecoe touches him well no Duncan his dad touches him oh no it's a fiction if you want I didn't remember that one again

if you think the touchin's too weird and awkward in the part one in the lynch one there's the scene where Paul has a conversation with his dad and his dad is supposed to be like all heartfelt like the equivalent scene basically

and it's like the most awkward like spine chilling scene it's like just like holds on the dad's face just like staring at Paul with like a smile like just really awkwardly for like it feels like two minutes just like holding on it's like what is going on this is mad yeah i mean there's there's levels to it it didn't stand up to me as it as an issue it makes sense for Paul's character i think yeah the first part has issues too much touching it's got so issues, but I wouldn't say in the realm of touching. No, that's the biggest issue. Are you just, are you, they just push too hard with it? Are you so,

are you so touch-stived, you've come out of the other end as being, I don't like touch at all. But if, that's, that's, well, I'm, yeah. So what's your problem? You think it it's not, because it's supposed to be a shorthand, I guess, to imply some kind of rapport. You think

it doesn't sell that they have an established relationship already. I think it feels fake. I didn't get that. We're watching it again recently. I didn't get that. The stuff with Duncan especially just makes sense. Because the whole thing with Duncan, it needs to be like that for it there to be the development.

Well, my thing is I don't feel like, I don't feel like Dune is character-led. It's not really the characters that I'm watching it for personally. But it feels fair. I get that because part of like Villeneuve's presentation of style is very like detached and cold and yeah like sterile and then you've got this this giant beefcake like grabbing a tiny little twink

I agree that's more I love you I think you're amazing just like pat him or something you know like a hey I guess it doesn't need to be like hey how are you you know I'm good there's an intensity kind of dialed up that's like these two are friends they are the best friends that's my point and it doesn't ruin the movie and everything I say about that right there it's like I would take

that because it's a it's a it's a it's a problem with like the lack of real estate you have to get the story moving you got so shit to communicate a scene like that is preferable to like a prequel scene where it's like, remember that time on Roswell 6th? I was just thinking that and I love that. I love when they're awkwardly standing in the elevator. That time didn't count you know, but the other times they were pretty funny.

So yeah, I'll definitely take the shown implied. Because I don't have an issue with characters like hugging in movies. I don't have a problem with like actors physically touching one another when the script asks for it. It's just in the instances and I haven't seen the movie in fucking ages

either, but I just remember thinking unnatural, not right. It kind of broke the realism in my head. It's like people don't act like this. It felt like the script needed them to do it to do what you were saying

to sort of accelerate this relationship See, the main examples that come to my head is when Paul first sees Duncan. Yeah. When they went up and they pat each other. I guess, but then they've got a fast track of the development of those characters to make it seem like they're connected, hence why the later development. Because the earlier scene with Leto, Leto won at Trades. The only scene, his father.

The only example I remember of the touch making me feel funny is that one, where they... The Jason Morrow one. They think they do it twice. that the patting yeah is it patting yeah

because there's like a time gap Duncan goes a few weeks ahead yeah and lives with the fremen for a bit yes and then they see each other maybe it's that second time I just remember

they're being one of those buzzy things yeah that's the second time yeah I guess it was the second time then when it was like maybe it didn't feel like enough time had passed

as well to where they'd like yeah behave like that again makes sense because in the movie it's not very far apart, right?

No, it's very quick. Yeah, so for those two things to happen like, in our perception right next to each other is like, like, this is, this feels strange. And now, I don't know,

now I've seen Dune Part 2 twice. I'm seeing it again today. Tonight, yeah. I might see it again, actually. Probably all of us will actually. I might just see it at IMAX. Which will be interesting, because if we go to the one in

Swindon, it would be our third times. your first. Yeah. So we're like, interesting. I think people are definitely connecting much more with this one. Yeah, I am too, probably. But my stance is kind of like, you don't get the payoff of part two

without putting down the foundation of part one. But the payoffs aren't evident when you only had part one. It's like all the meat of the story, basically, starts unfolding in part two. And part two is fucking fantastic. And weirdly, because I've literally finished part one again like two days ago

because I'm watching the second one again and it's like my perception of the way that story progressed was like yeah the first hour and 20 minutes is slow but the the shit that happens on Oaxis is like straight in the middle and I thought it was way later the first time I saw it

so you're actually getting good development and that to me was like the structure seemed more awkward without having the part two thing where like yeah that huge siege in part one is like yeah it's fairly like kind of the halfway point of the movie and it's like a big like crescendo like payoff moment i guess in that movie then it has to reel way back and start going into setup again and then it like the story stops like just partway through the new setup so it's like an awkward end point ending with that

like knife fight with the fremen fella which um jammis yamas which now after part two and there's like an echo and structure of it it's like oh that that knife fight that feels like a bit of a it's not like a very high point to end the film on it's like compared to that huge siege and everything you've just seen like it's a little like small-scale knife fight it's kind of like it's important though yeah but you don't understand kind of like what it's setting up the rules it's setting up the things it's establishing and how it's going to pay that off later without I guess knowing the book or scene part two and I like that about it it's improved some things about part one but the biggest the biggest thing that I just didn't like about part

one I guess was some of the music usage the there's like a vocal thing in the main theme like shit which there's a couple times in that first part where when they use it it's like this ain't complementing what I'm seeing whereas in contrast in part two the first time they use it it's like that is fucking hype the way you've like timed that and introduced that. Remind me. It's one of the first major action sequences with around one of the harvesters.

Yes, no, yeah, got it. Yes, that is fucking hype. Oh, shitting hell. Just part two is like super polished. Way more polished than part one. And I think the whiter strike probably did a lot for that film. I don't know, yeah I think I just had time Like do you think

Having seen it The Messiah The second book is Messiah Yeah Do you think that Is gonna hit the same as this I don't know if it has What the action set pieces are like

I think it's more of like A More of like a political Like drama type thing Yeah, because I guess it's focusing on the houses. It's like, I think there's a 12-year gap or time skip after events of Dune. And it's about some kind of like royal intrigue, betrayal things going on.

I don't know. I'm sure there's some plan for it. I do you know thinking about that. That might be closer to Villeneuve specialty. Because if you think of prisoners and a rival, that is all about like the intrigues. and this complex narrative so him trying to navigate that through like with a Dune sequel

that seems like even better and even then like the action set pieces that are in Dune are like very nimble he doesn't do the like right we're in the fight scene bit of like the third act where there's a war for 40 minutes it's literally like five minutes

but it's like super efficient it's really well-paced and it really it's tension it doesn't let that tension drop off at Wayne, it gets it and then it's really progressing with it. And the same with... The images, he strings together

like, whenever there's a cut, the implication with what happened in between is always like so clear and like, yeah, it just gives you enough. I'm... Like, on Villeneuve, where do you think Villeneuve goes from Doom? Because that probably

is going to be his, like, biggest set of movies. I think this most successful film as far as box office so far, which is Like, do you think he's now going to be poached for big IPs, like, on the level of Dune? Bordlands 2 movie. I mean, he's kind of at a point where he's like, what else does he have to prove in the sci-fi space? Maybe he needs to do something else, like, just switch genre entirely, like, do something else.

He's done, he's, like, done so much already. Yeah. He's like, he's done, you know, Sicario, that's that modern military, you know, morally, complex stories, done incendies. Thriller, with prisoner. Abstract, weird, like, indie stuff with enemy. He's done Blade Runner, arrival. Like, he... Heavy sci-fi, lighter sci-fi.

Yeah, he's in, like, so much. And one of the actual best, my favourite parts of Doon 2 were Yavya by them. Yeah, he has one of the best arcs, like, think about it more. Especially when the first, having watched the first one again, where he's much more of like a mysterious character because it's yeah he's like closed off but part two yeah he was one of the more like tragic arcs i'd say yeah and then part and then just bolin when he comes in part two it's like oh oh the good harvester scene yeah oh yeah god and especially i loved him in part one as well gurney love old gurney he's not in it much but like

that line where he says brutal he's like really memorable to me the hard And that's like law though because that's like setting up that he knows the harkness And it's like oh and then part two's like oh oh oh he's coming back boy I'm a big fucking villain I'm a loser man I've been I just like I really like this world I found an old um audio interview with uh the writer of the book Herbert um recorded in like the 60s or 70s where he's like being interviewed about it and just hearing his process and stuff of how he like his well-building approach and like how he was inspired by all because he used to be a he was a journalist by trade so he had this like super broad

knowledge base of ecology um not just how it applies to like flora and fauna but also like ecology within politics within all of these things that make up the world so he could like conceptualize this quite flushed out like idea of yeah he'd like he did some research on sand dunes or something which was his inspiration like the whole ecology of sand dunes is really interesting and it kind of they move like water and there's all this stuff going on that's what would that be like if there was a whole planet that was covered in sand How do we get the... Blah, and yeah.

Super interesting. Worms. Yeah. And yes, having gone through part two, how I'm watching it and whatnot, I naturally, it's kind of coincided with the fact that I've kind of picked up the actual models of Warhammer again. And really enough, this also ties into Hell Divers.

Like, the more I'm going back and looking at the law again of Warhammer, it's like, fuck me. Like, everything's based off of Dune. And Warhammer especially 40K is like This is fucking Dune But the Emperor is just the Emperor of the Imperium It's called the fucking Imperium There's like...

You can see the exact same about Star Wars Yeah The Empire, the Force, the Voice Yeah, just all of it The desert planet They have spice in Star Wars There's a drug in Star Wars called Spice And it's like

I'm now liking Warhammer more Because I'm like, I like Dune And now it's like I'm looking at the Primax And the Astartis It's just like, they're just houses they're just the houses of Dune I quite like going back and back into this while like

I put Lord of the Rings on a pedestal not that like some of the concepts didn't exist before him but the way he set them up is like right that's the foundation of like modern era of fantasy storytelling

it's crazy how something can be so influential yeah and just like I love that like Doom was written in the 60s and it's just like so true now you know like just the observation of like yeah we wore over oil let's turn that in something literary um all of the obvious like middle eastern inspiration desert planet it's called iraqis arachis um the kind of language structure using like arabic kind of phrases and you know muabdai all this kind of stuff

San Al-Qaibam. Comjabar. All this kind of craziness. Yeah. Really good stuff. It is. Just because I briefly mentioned Heldivers,

it's interesting looking at Haldivers too. I don't think we mentioned that we've been playing it. But it's like, that game is just Warhammer. It's a Warhammer 40K game. It's Starship Troopers. Yeah.

Yeah. And Kayla. And Warhammer. Yeah. Love that game. Do you like it a lot. I think it's mostly Starship Troopers, honestly. I disagree.

The fucking director of the studio is just like, yeah, I'm going to add micro-transactions so I can buy Warhammer. Yeah, yeah, like, the automaton's are just Nek-ons. So that's why I like playing against them. I mean, everyone's... The whole, like, you know, the fascist... Let's spread democracy thing. That's straight from the Starship.

It is a mixture of... It's, like, heavily... Starship, yeah. Starship Troopers, the intro cut scene is like this, this could, if, if you told me this was like a trailer for a Starship Troopers game, I would believe you. Because that exact tone is Starship Troopers, yeah. So some of the enemy designs are especially like, oh yeah, this is Warhammer, I see. Yeah, and the armor of the Helldivers and stuff.

Like, apparently the dev team as like a team building exercise, they built a Warhammer, like, table yeah like the battlegrounds you make like that was their and it does make sense because it's just it is it's like you're going to take the best references and warhammer's so fucking huge you're going to definitely use that influence yeah and it makes sense from like a game point of view as well yeah um yeah it is also definitely inspired by halo um because like thinking about it this game this exact game could have been made and well it was pitched a three four three like a similar kind of concept of a game

like an ODST game fighting hordes of enemies and a replayable way obviously turned down didn't know what they hadn't so okay now Sony has a better Halo game yeah an ADST game

yeah crazy nice one guys I've noticed my ship is wed it's the inside of your ship wed no mine is don't know I know what's mine called the the PANTH

the SS Panther of self-determination Mine's the something glory of morning And it's wed I think because if you buy the guns Your whole ship goes wet That's pretty cool Because I'm only upgrading guns

So I can team colloes you That's literally the only reason It's fun All of it's team killing should be forced And everything Energy pylons are like really bad For team kids Yes no fucking

Yes The flyer The thing is I love being team killed As soon as you get blasted In a funny way it's good yeah if it's funny if you throw it if you throw a 380 hit height millimeter orbital barge

a location funny thing it's a wide air of effect bomb and it's like if you throw it and your teammates here it will just go bloat your teammate instantly every time first shot and when you upgrade them so there's less damage drop off and there's more

yeah more shots fired your whole teams get dead and I love it I find it funny yeah it's very emergent gameplay very uh it's like classic an instant classic it's kind of the is like this generation is left for dead is what it actually is yes it's that old school game feel it feels something about it like reminds me of the 360 era yeah yeah that's exactly

what um I was thinking and the funny thing is we have to use game chat because of discourse not connected to the the charmedia page um PlayStation account so we are actually using game chat where it's shit quality actually interacting with like a real dude like a random American guy or something yeah it's fun I will make a new PSN account as though have a job yeah it doesn't have a choice

I'll see after these messages hey it's me Zeus the god my fully endorse the jarmedia merchandise available in the description below Yeah. You stole it? I stole it. From where?

You can't say that on camera. There'll be a federal investigation. They can investigate these nuts on their life. Good afternoon, one evening on night, ladies and gentlemen, this is part two of the charm media podcast where we are going to discuss Dune. I really liked it. I didn't. Are you going to come watch it tonight?

I thought it was lame. Why aren't you going to come watch it tonight? I don't know. May, I may, I may not. We got book a ticket now. I've always going to be to sit next to me. I'm sat next to you now. It's fine.

You can sit on your worm. The dunacy. Yeah, I guess this is the part we answer questions from the... Draw me to your subroidette. Head over there and leave questions for us. Or don't. Or do. I ate a hello me up last night.

I felt like I was going to shit myself. What? Hello? I'm a cowboy in the Wild West. How's your cowboy voice? Hi, I'm John the Cowboy. I'm John the Cowboy, and I'm a TikTok voice. Well, hello there.

Best no. Shall I answer a call from my mother? Yeah, go on put... No, she gave up. She's probably going to ask you something about like... Mum, oh! Where's the chickens? Did you leave... put the chickens out?

Did you kill the chickens for a yummy roast? What's your cowboy voice, James? Your character. My character's called... Reagan. Oh, boy, I'm a cowboy. Revolver Reagan. Revolver Reagan.

And I don't use a revolver. Use a pistol. No, I use a chain action revolver. What? It's a revolver, but you spin it up like one of those minigons all the time. It's like, in a jewel, you go, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. They call me a cowboy, well, I'm a bison boy.

Welcome. Can we bison the way I'll be buying your sons, bitch? Jesus. Well, speaking of buying sons, paper machete dream says, weirdest place you ever took a wee Weewee? A public toilet in Swordsbury Because I had to pay 50 pound

50 P contact list to get in And it was fucking disgusting And it's stank Oh really? No, it's tight I peed many places Some strange, some normal Some up, some down

Some high, some low Yeah, I don't remember everywhere I pee Splash back What's a strange pee place I'd say Off a bridge actually would be my answer Yeah Yeah that is the weirdest one that can't be taught

That's unique Yeah Because Like I feel like the question is different For men and women as well Yeah You know You kind of have more options as a man

It's like weird I'd say it's weird if you did it in like public Hmm But if you find a hidey hole, then, like, if you really have to go, then, like, it's kind of acceptable. If you're intentionally, like... Searching out. Searching out the most remote place possible where you're pretty much certain you're not going to be found. You know?

But there's nature... This is a thing. This is the male thing. It's like every man has pissed on a bush or tree. Yeah. Every man. So it's not weird. Yeah, like on, on, we used to go for bike rides when we were little teenagers in the, the countryside, and it was like, middle of nowhere, got a pee.

Run a little bit into the woods, find a nice thick tree. Of course. Pea up it. Yeah. Said dogs do it, men do it. Men are dogs. There's no difference. I pee in the compost sometimes.

That's probably my answer. Yeah. I aim for the spiders. It's kind of fueling. the compost. Yeah, that's the idea. That's the... Give you all that urea.

Well, imagine the weirdest face, the weirdest answer could probably be on someone. Well, yeah. Have you ever peed on someone? Yeah, people who enjoy golden showers, probably love that. Our slash JAR Media says, I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about Jarl law.

I've watched, listened to all cast plenty of times, but recently... And recently reached a level of irony that even the most avid listeners cannot comprehend. I honestly have no clue what you guys are talking about for at least 20 minutes per cast now. Please continue doing this. I love it. Want to reach a point where the entirety of the episode sounds like completely nonsensical gibberish. Well, judging that a conversation starts on a subject and continues, how the fuck don't you know what we're talking about?

Like, what is it? Leave another comment saying, like, what this episode and what last episode was the 20 minutes? couldn't understand. Probably literally the piss conversation. No, no, because it's what we said the word piss too much. Pess. Is it all going to be edited out? No, I can probably, I don't know.

Don't edit the piss out. I like the, I'll see how it flows. If it's too pissy, I'll put it in the bonus bit that's going to go on Patreon. Which is basically just call it James admits I'm a piss kink. Okay, I'll call it that. Don't. Don't take that out of context. I don't.

Grave Walker is a question for Jim. How does one actually raise an indoor and outdoor cat? I've only ever owned dogs and all my friends have indoor cats as they can't even imagine letting their cat outside without supervision so I'm confused how some owners do it. How do you let Billy out and trust she'll be safe and come back home? Because she's a cat. This is like one of the more controversial subjects for some of my god.

So let's not stay on this for 15 minutes. Oh yeah, we are. When it became evident that she was. suffering because she was staying inside then it wasn't a question of like how do I do this in the most safe way it's it's in your own life you take risks every day um and that's part of like feeling free and autonomous um and to limit your pet because i mean a cat if you if you sent a cat into some remote forest and yourself like you skydive in like

fortnight style that cat is going to live longer than you oh yeah yeah it would probably change the entire ecology of the youth yeah it would wipe everything else out that's like within a certain size um

but it's also intimidating to those who are bigger than it so they'll live well yeah yeah this is the this is the thing yeah what messes with cats no we've proved this Jamie died on this hill valiantly because he was wrong

but we've all seen the clips nothing wants to fuck with a cat because it's just like they'll smack from a car that's because it's a machine way the machines don't start for anyone which I guess is people's argument right where it's like it's dangerous out there they'll get smacked by a car

or kill a bird the good sign with Billy is that she's always been like afraid of the road this is this isn't an interesting thing because they mentioned their dog owner I can tell you right now if I open the gate If Guy walks out, I have no fear.

He'll come back. He'll go take himself a walk and come back. I walk the farm's collie on my road because the dog is just like, I'll follow you, you know? It'll follow me on my walk and then go back. It's like collies, man. You just go on them. I'm 100% confident that no matter what I do with my dog,

he'll just do his own shit and come back. So I don't... I don't... The thing about going to Vermont and getting a marmot bringing it back. importing it if possible you can't well I'm gonna do it legally or not

yep don't care about the law when it comes to this one honestly I'm I'm a scary shadow on your face right now it's the tilt when you got the cap and you yeah

oh yeah I don't see that moment's gonna be all mine see I find you less intimidating you know if it if there's any animal you know like to go Tarzan you know or Wolfman I won't be mum

man you know like stand there this is a difference like you get the stance like you just front up to everybody and you just kind of like you're just a little bit handsy like you're in doom part one just always like shoving a little bit and like if someone hands you something you hold it's more anti-hansy because like if you touch them they kind of push your hand out of way and to to no but if you're offering them something and then they'll grab yeah then they take so like someone comes up to you with some like almonds and you're like yep yeah and you got to chew really quick. The marmot guy of the hills of Vermont.

What's your, what's your deal of Vermont at the moment? I can tell you the story, bro. I was in a, uh, a vintage shop in Bristol. And what did I see with my own eyes, but Vermont? Nice. Glad you saw Vermont. That's the story. Hold on.

Give me one minute. Vermine, Vermon By my thing, dogs are best when you treat them like cats. The best dog is a... The best dog is a cat a dog that's more like a cat.

It's breed dependent, right? Yeah, because I'd say Aggie's cat-like in the way he climbs around and like... But he's not, though, because he also sees you and he's like... He screams at you non-stop. Yeah. It's like, you want a dog that's just like,

go on and go fucking hunt you little shit. They're the best. Oh, okay. Wow, look at the woodland critters. I don't like the font. The font ruins it. Hey. Yeah.

Too dark. Vermont. Vermont. We're off to see Vermont. Yeah, pretty fair. I understand that. Gaius is on there too. Guyus. Yeah. Wolfman.

Yeah, the little fox. I like dogs. Yeah, I mean, have a bit of trust in your pet, I guess, at the end of the day. And read its language. I also had a snore you happen with people who didn't get angry about it again. And it happened to do with Gaius off the lead. So I don't know if I don't have a conversation about that. No, this is the funny thing.

there was also another dog off their lead and guess what Garus wasn't only caused any problem it was the other dog to the point where Guyas was disengaged constantly and the other dog was being harassing and that dog was off lead right? It was off lead and it was a German shepherd

yeah that's why Payers has all this fear now she was charged by a young shepherd it is or a shepherds and it's like in that situation I would be like yeah put your dog on a lead but I wouldn't put my, well I did put mine on the lead

but it's like that dog shouldn't have been off a lead because it was charging other dogs then it comes down to dog ownership and the person walking the dog um Gobber Mondorf says Hello Jar gentlemen I have a question for James

Recently I started a job within the aviation industry Working ground ops in the US I was wondering if James Has ever had any interest related to planes Seeing as he loves cars I and myself Considering a future career as an airplane Mechanic myself

Bear Bear Boys you guys are the best any plane thoughts I fucking love planes they are cool as in I have like a gay some gayly out of fantasies about planes it's like top gun

makes me cry because it's just like I love planes I love the romanticism of planes there is something I don't know there's like a symbol of like something

yeah no it's a symbol of freedom nobody's more free than fighter pilots flights yeah they get to fly the skies man yeah it's like you're a Subaru you're like flying around

in a hypersonic jet Plains are great I think They are Commonwealth crimes But I love engineering and a lot of mechanical things Doesn't matter what it is

I just love machines that go whir It's like dishroaches and washing machines are naturally really fascinating Because they're machines Yeah Do you feel that way about like

Like PCs and microchips You don't There's a lack of mechanical movement there But it's like I like the idea when you get macro

when you get tiny that's like crazy to me I like big big machines that's involved um no but planes are great I've I've been to

pretty much every UK plane museum there's a sum I want to go to like in America because there's a bunch cool there you know I've been to air shows I like planes

I love the historical yeah just it's like the Vulcan bomber flying over Bentley way back in there that's that shit nothing makes my head

my hair stand more than fighter jets when you hear that quackle of a fucking fighter jet as it flies over. It's like that's fucking stunning. I quite like the big guys, the Hercules. Yeah, big, big, fucking planes.

And it's like when you see them, because obviously we have a bunch of the galaxies fly over because we're near a military base. So the big, super big jet-powered huge planes are constantly over. And you hear them from, they're so deep, so fucking loud. And you can hear them whipple across the sky from miles away. What do you think of like a stealth bomber? Stunning. This is the only reason you want to go to Vegas.

go to the airfield and you can watch well I remember on Jersey Island we regularly would go to like the air show they would do there yeah well that was red areas but they'd have all sorts what's the one that what's that plane that can hover a veto how yeah um yeah it was a harrier

like was there and it's like so fucking loud but like so cool and intimidating it's like what I've said before I think I've said it on the other I've said it to you it's just like go back to any time World War II, when you're just in the English countryside and there's like fucking flights of Spitfires flying over the War of Merlins.

That shit, that shit, like, dream material. Any day of the week, I'd want that. You see that during the day and... Well, no, because obviously... No, as in, like, if you saw like... In the countryside. Yeah, if you saw like a wing of Spitfires, that shit's like, we're doing this, we're going to win this war.

There's like patriotism to that. It's also beautiful. They are very cool balloons. You go home to your, um, dirt and one egg. I don't think that trade-off is everything about The Spitfire is cool The name, the visual design Yeah, I think it's a symbol of it

It's interesting because it's like If you saw Spitfire fly over You're like, that is a beautiful plane And at the same time in that air If you saw two measure schmits, you'd be fearing for your fucking life To me, it's like the horror of it And the beauty of it Is they're like evoking like dragon imagery

Spitfire Yeah I think that was kind To me, that's like the one era of some sort of nationalistic, militaristic pride for England. Well, yeah, because there was no like, you know, it's not like going, invading the Middle East. It was like, well, we're being bombed by the mustache twirling bad guys. And it's not just, they're not just bombing it. They're bombing just towns and innocent.

So it's like, yeah, you want to be on that front line. You want to be gunning them down. You want to be in your planes fighting. And the fact that it was seen as such a patriotic we're fighting a bigger military. Well, that's like a just, like, when your home's being attacked, like, that's the only thing I could justify, like, going to war for, you know?

I'm not going to be going to other people's land, but if they're coming to yours, like, what the hell of choice you got? It's your home. But, no, I do. I absolutely adore plans. I would love to be in a position where I can work on, you know, being in an engineering field if that.

So someone for my work recently actually got job with a, the only like proper like authenticated rebuilder of Merling engines in the world he's working there

building Merling engines and he basically did the same job as I mean it's like if an opportunity like that popped up fuck here

go build World War II engines amazing I love that stuff and I love tanks because I recently went to the

Impovington Tank Museum which you're one of the biggest tank museums in the world and it's like you think you think back to like world or two

world or two-eer machinery and it's like when you see a german like yag tiger and the fact that it's fucking monstrous in size it's like if you look at it you get scared and that's not in a battlefield you're launching in a shed and it's scary yeah it's beautiful engineering is crazy and i love just especially german engineer at that time being so brutalist and so fucking slab-sided it's like yeah that's evil that's evil incarnate yeah stunning they like perfected the evil aesthetic literally nothing there's nothing pleasing

from that era like even their guns are like yeah this is just an evil gun baby quite impressive how they managed

to do that well yeah when you got like Hugo Boss and like Mercedes I do I do love that ear that meme

was just like yeah never ask a German company what he's doing and German World too just like

but no I do love anything engineering and I do love planes so well yeah it wasn't like wasn't NASA

a Nazi invention? No, yeah, that's Mada-D-D-D-D-No, it was one of the founding members of NASA was the Rube-born hyper-famous scientist guy, but he also developed the V-2 missiles that were launched at Britain.

He did. I'm so bad when names. Faces, I remember. I'll find his name. I'll find his name because I want to be historically accurate for the man. It's crazy. The N and NASA stands for Nile. Nazi. Von Braun. Werner von Braun. Berner.

Pen also one here from Finnish Georges Sorrel. I don't know if you talked about this, but lately, I watched Rebuild of Evangelion in the movies. Oh no. Fucking sucked like Jesus. Shut up. How can you make something so good, so bad? So have any of you, aka James, watched them? What's this argument? That's all he said.

What, that rebuild is nothing more, is nothing more than Hideaki Ano wanting to give his characters, his most iconic, some of the most iconic characters ever to come out of Japan, a happy ending. That's all it is. It's just like, oh, these characters are actually not being traumatised. They're actually dealing with their trauma and they're having...

It's the undercutting the point of it, though. Right? He's like, the thing that gave the original one all its like meaning and everyone that loves it for that reason, right? For exploring, like, depression and...

No, but it's not... It's exploring the worst ways to deal with that. all the characters do everything wrong to do with their own issues and rebuild is just the characters not doing that the statement on depression that right yes there's more too yeah I haven't seen it I don't know

but that's why it's the rebuild that's why it's it's not Evangana's weird and it's there's it's not alternative it's just like the original series rebuild end of Evangina and Rebord is just kind of one storyline there's nothing more deviate from that you need to see it as one direct storyline are Final Fantasy 7 remaking it yeah basically yeah but no technically the same time

it's a sequel it's that's what the Final Fantasy one's doing as well but like they're changing things but it's like they're still both there's almost yeah yeah there's some yeah weird loophole like that like i like the rebuilder v1 journal and i like it because the aesthetic is really nice i like the animation is great but i just love the extra exploration of those characters and it's just like oh yeah these characters are actually doing they're dealing with this better and therefore I like it me too

me three but it's funny I do find it funny because this is like comedy man took almost a decade to release the last movie it's like

I feel like a lot of people just sad that it's like these miserable characters are getting a few engines endings I feel like that and there's a being on the 4th channel when the rebuilder being

were airing you know I saw a lot of the hate I spent a lot of time in the Evangelion for us. People just hate them because it's trying to be different from the original. That's his point. Not enough Vermont for me. I might like it more.

It's based in Vermont. That's why they're all mentally ill. Right, finally then, Jonah Tron can take us away. Hello Joe. Recently, scientists discovered a worm-like amphibian who secretes milk out their ass for their young to drink. My question is, if we were

to begin harvesting this milk, would you want to drink it? If so, would you be interested if we could turn it into cheese. Personally, I think worm cheese sounds like an exciting future prospect. So yeah, this is a New York Times article. Bizarre worm-like and oozing milk for their babies. Amphibians called calililians. Add cloakal secretions of nutritious materials similar to milk to their numerous quirks according. to a new study. I love Mother Nature.

So it's just, it's just, um... Like pigeon milk. Would you drink pigeon milk? Yes. Why did we see any liquid the spine be like, oh, it's milk, can we drink it? No, it's what it means. It's what it means for those creatures.

If it's like a... If it's a substance that the body creates for the young, it's milk. Yeah, but we also shouldn't be drinking cows milk, so why should we be drinking any milk? I'm anti-milk. You had milk this morning? No, I didn't.

Yeah, you did. You had two milky coffees. Different, doesn't count. It's like cheese on pizza. Doesn't count. Yeah, you had a cheesy lunch as well. I did have to... Bro, I've eaten a lot of cheese.

Unusual, because I don't like cheese. You just said you had a loomie rap. Yeah, that's cheap. Okay, fuck, I'm eating little cheese. Ignore that, ignore me. And you drink milky coffee every day. I don't. I drink Ameri Cano's every day, actually.

I drink. And there's some of the worst Americanoes you've ever done. tasted, they're fucking grim. Like straight up, it's putting me on to instant. Here's the question, though. If it solved hunger for everyone,

you know? If one squirt was enough to feed you for a week, would you eat the squirt? This is kind of what I'm saying. If by utilising worm milk, we could annihilate any hunger, no more suffering of that regard. I'm picturing like,

imagine a worm, like a big hot dog sauce. sausage. Season it. Eat it right up. That's what? It's like dense with protein. They're basically already a sausage. You're thinking of the blade run of protein files, but not just eating the protein of the fat worms. We also eating the squirt out of their ass. Well, yeah, the milk.

That could be the seasoning for the worm. Then you can have the milk and the protein. You don't typically eat like an entire thing, though? I do. You don't eat like the chicken's bones. Because worms don't have bones, I guess, so I don't know if it's a moot point. Yeah, that's why, and they've got a different physiology. Yeah, I don't know if it's just a feeling, you know.

That wormy kind of feeling. That anti-worm consumption kind of feeling. I want to consume a worm. Something just tells you it's wrong. There's a barrier there, for sure. That's because we haven't spent enough time in like an apocalyptic world where we need to eat the worm. Would it be normalized? Could it be normal?

If they were like genetically engineered to like taste if you could get like the beef worm The chicken worm That's a different issue to me Yeah that's genetic manipulation Which is awesome It's like you know they like Is it like a living worm at some point

Where it's like We took a pear We took an apple We made a papal Yeah that's That is fucking fire That's good That's awesome

Do you know The most important being with be the societal impact, because you know how Piers Muggan was literally crying on live TV about the vegan sausage roll? He'd be crying about the proteins worm. There's such a weird, like, it's so pathetic, man.

Can you take them into the wilderness and set them back out? But yeah, it doesn't come at the cost of your thing. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, oh no, they're selling it. Sossage rolls have been banned. Only vegan rolls are now the legal version. The funniest, the funniest thing about that was the vegan ones are just the normal ones but taste beller.

Yeah, they're like, they actually have flavour. Like, the Greg's sausage roll is so processed already. That, like, it's barely a sausage roll. Yeah, so just eat the one that's say spicy that just happens to be vegan. Yeah, what difference does it make? Like, everyone thinks they taste better. I love the veganism and vegetarian options. Like, they're connected to the woke somehow.

It's like... True, people get really upset about that some reason. But it's that classic thing where it's like... the haters are almost more annoying. Yeah. Vegan haters, like, it's like,

yeah, an impassioned vegan can be annoying as fuck. But like, so can the people who hate the vegans, but it's like, why is this bug you so much? Like,

just eat your fucking steak. Like, the people that, like, they go out of their way, they go to supermarkets and they're like, what the fuck? And they like grab a handful of like,

beyond burgers and just go put them in like a different aisle so they go bad. It's like, yeah, I just fucking owned those, fucking the limbs. Those fucking wigs. Do you know, I was at Sammy's

yesterday, world famous Sammies. And the guy in front of me ordered a kebab. And it came to do to it, and Sammy got had a fucking pile of it. This guy with Elijah. Any salad? And he was like, no. Any sauce? No. And Sammy was just like, what? No, no source, no nothing.

And it was just this fucking mound of Donamy. And they was like, oh. He was just like, no, I can't have any of that good stuff. And this guy, what, fucking guy just walked off with a fucking plain donna cab with nothing but Donna it's like even if Sammy

is sitting there like you for real like man it's never come back it's not right it's not right I get it like Sammy's cabbbs some of the people who go there mounted who the fuck always is a cab with no salad or seasoning or sauce

but like what's with the salad hate come on how can you have a cab and not a salad just have a little leaf you can literally pick the left the most fucking bland salad like all it does is add crunch yeah it's not like onion like i even add onion now because i'm added more of the salad because you know i was a little bitch i get all then i want yeah everything just slot from chili peppers i don't feel chili peppers yeah bit acidic um it's because they're like full of water you like bite the end off

yeah full of acid yeah instant heartburn um what was the question of the sausage sausage worm this is this is the example of the guy not knowing what we want

about because we don't even know I want about I think if I was brought up to drink worm milk

then I would but as it stands if it was socially acceptable to drink worm milk it's not about it's not about societal

acceptability I wouldn't eat it no I wouldn't drink it I don't know let's say say in this hypothetical world

I run a taco ban right but like you choose like you know say what do you want your um your vegan worm do you want your chicken worm do you want your beef worm your pork worm your mushroom worm mushroom worm mushroom worm yeah i don't yeah you could get crazy like if it's all if it's all ethically okay because you're just messing with the genes you could be like this one tastes like human how can it be a vegan worm if it's literally a worm

Why does it make it ethically okay Because you're messing with the genes Because it's not like an actual human Has been harvested and A worm has been harvested To be genetically modified to be chicken I thought yeah I thought you meant like There's no debate

Well like they're not actually It's not actually a chicken No but it's been genetically modified But it is actually a worm Of the worm tastes like chicken But there's more to taste than taste Yeah the texture might not be be right. Yeah, but like...

No, no, this is the thing. The best part about eating chicken is the texture. It's like that. It's like, why you like it. So making, genetically modifying the squishiness of, it's like, imagine the scorpion body, yeah. Imagine if that tasted like chicken. I'm not going to eat that over chicken. Yeah, because it would still be scorpion.

Exactly. Yeah. You didn't want to eat the scorpions. You don't actually have a real life application of your... I've eaten worms. I've eaten mealworms. You have eaten I've eaten locust You've eaten beel worms

Geel worms? You've been geol worms Yeah Yeah Um When dried You know When in dried

When in dried When worm dried Yeah It's kind of like cereal Well like the locust I ate Was like What's What like liquid goes with

Mealworms Like if you want to kind of re-awaken them. Rehydrate them. Yeah, like a bowl of like cheery is. That's a, yeah, pre-workout. You have a bowl of worms in milk. Yeah.

Well, like, roll the worms up into an O before you dry them. Wormios. Wormilk in the bowl. Yeah. Worm protein deluxe. Do you know when you go to those, like, shops and they have the containers just full of living animals that shit makes me free because when it's when you see the big ones it's like yeah is that ethically okay no to cram

like locust into this tiny I guess it's yeah I guess it's the argument of like the relative misery bugs feel compared to more sophisticated nervous systems and you scream because they're always in like Chinese takeaway containers as well it's like I don't like this no um and i like i don't yeah morally i don't know if you can like because like there's that that's part of the the pescatarian like don't stick a spoon in a fucking head it's fucking right that's like the argument where it's like well fish don't feel it's like what do you mean then because they obviously have the sense to be like oh this hurts i'm going to get away from it that's the same as us that would be like me hurting you being like

Like, well, that being clearly doesn't want to be in that, like, situation of pain. But I'm not sure whether it's actually feeling what I feel when I feel pain, so it's fair game. We have an annoying way of, like, comparing our exact experience as humans and putting it on animals and being like, well, because they don't have, like, family structures that completely echo humanity. that means they're dumb in comparison and they don't care and they don't care like when you see a hamster eating its children

yeah oh come on yeah that hamster's saving its children from the curse of being trapped like a fish in the ocean it's like way more equipped for that environment

and it's doing a good job like it's always meant to do like it's not meant to do anything else but also to just assume that, like, you can't hurt it. Like, we're the, we're the odd ones out, as far as, like, the crazy... Well, I think, um, our lived experiences are probably more similar to animals than we give credit.

Mm-hmm. I think we... Just because we got all these complex layers of socialization. Yeah, we've got the ability to, like, communicate. We've got language and consciousness and all these letters. But, I mean, I'd argue that animals have consciousness. Yeah, yeah. It's just a different type, probably.

like yeah maybe the nature of their physiology less self-aware um maybe not self-aware and the not the even an animal without self-awareness like that doesn't mean it's like less valuable no you know well i mean like i have moments without self-awareness when i'm just like i've met plenty of people you know yeah but i mean like in those moments when you're doing something menial you like lose track of you become an automaton you become like a

your subconscious mind just takes control yeah and it's like yeah you don't think about breathing you don't think about yeah like the fact your brain is blocking out your nose and your

periphery like yeah I can see it now yeah oh my good um yeah so but to look at a fish

and be like fuck specifically them because I'm just going to believe that they don't feel pain I don't like justifications like that Do you think that puffer fish felt pain when it was forced fed the coward? Yes

Probably yeah And they was executed Yeah Pashed on the head with the blunt end of a knife Poor guy Bois yeah it's like horrible and frightening like imagine being like us right and then some like grand being like just reaches down yeah picks us up and um it's you can see it like sending brain waves through space

and time to his friend like and it's like watch this and then he gets like a giant cosmic carrot and start stuffing it down your throat and you're like and they're like look how funny this is and then plunks you down and bashes you with a fucking giant rolling pin this is why you shouldn't laugh this is why people are other animals

spitting and suffering and that's my behaviour like what you're thinking of is like a chimp that's just picked up a frog and is like using it like flesh of it yeah yeah Mother Nature is like brutal man it's awful

and we forget that we're like part of it yeah we are we're products of nature. We've literally mean that fucking Papa Fish video and we found it funny constantly. Yeah. We are cool fucking. Yeah, it's hard not to like and obviously

my morals like don't align with how I live and like eat and stuff. I eat animal products like every day. I have a chug jug of way mixed with milk every day. Like it

doesn't line up. It's one of those things where if we survive long enough, like, as humanity, this period will be looked at, like, what you guys were doing to... Barbaric is like, fucked on a scale, like, we can't even... Yeah, but not just animals, like, the whole planet. Like, yeah, yeah. For a long time, we've just not given a shit, you know? Yeah, this is why we need Biden. This is why we need Biden.

So we can bomb the Middle East more. so we can go on a different war for oil really treat the planet with some respect I hear they're going to go for um why don't bring bring back the rip that puffer fish yeah genuinely I'm sorry that happened to you

I am as well maybe I like freedom fighter movement symbol should be that that puffer fish Yeah. With a bit of carrot. That would be our, like, national anthem. Yeah, like, the group's called, like, the carrot mouths or something. That's a dog whistle.

Like a cat, you just walk around with carrot. What's that, dog? You know, bunnies, they don't even eat that part of the carrot. What part? You know, like, what's up doc? Like, he's, like, chewing on a carrot. Bunchies don't eat the red bit. They don't, they eat the green bit.

Like carrots, like they're underground. They don't dig them up, then eat the carrot. They just eat the green bit. They don't eat carrots. Yeah, that makes sense. On that note, I guess I'll leave you a disturbing fucking little factoid. On that note, I'll end the episode on that little factoid. Hey.

Way. Nya. Yeah.