JAR Media Posdact - WORM Adjacent - BroCast #4

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

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Do you think garring helps with the wheeze? Got something in my tease? Got a little bit of leaf in your teeth. You used to always do that. What? The pronounced TH as... Tease. Like tease instead of teeth.

I think I got a... from our cousin when he was a little baby remember he would he tried to say the word nerf like nerf gun and he'd say nurse it's nurse or nassin it's nurse or nassin yeah

it's just a little bit adorable yeah yeah pretty cutie cutie woody he was a cute child he was cute to the point where he went to like auditions for like adverts or whatever if you remember yeah

but you found it too lame. He didn't want to be a toy channel YouTuber and make millions a dollar. You know, he made the right choice, sir. He did make the right choice. He chose, on the flowchart,

he had the choice of soul or no soul. And he chose soul. Yeah. Here's one of those one of those do's or don'ts. Would you? A, have a good childhood, but be...

Be like a child star. No, be not a child star. Have normal amounts of money. Or be a child star and be a millionaire by the age of 13. You've got different examples, right? You got like, you Josh Brolins, he was a childster. He was in the Goonies. He was one of the kids.

Was he? What? Really? Yeah, yeah. I don't know anything about him, like, as a person, but you don't hear, like, you know, Jake Lloyd-style stories about him. But then that's the inverse, is a Jake Lloyd is... Yeah, that's the gamble. ...is many number of probably quite mentally deranged child stars who are put in movies when they're in age where it's not really ethical, you know?

that's a lot of power Putting a child in a Star Wars movie That's a lot of power I suppose it depends on the movie you're in as well Like Yeah like a big franchise thing Like being cast as one of the Harry Potter kids or something Yeah even then though

Like Star Wars You're the The whole pressure Is riding on you You know, that's established. Especially if it's like, you little six-year-old boy, you are Darth Vader. Yeah.

Now sell it. It's just an insane, insane idea. An insane world we live in, isn't that right, bro? On this very brokast episode four. Boo? Oh, it's weird to say that before saying good afternoon, morning, evening on night. Ladies and gentlemen. Are you allowed to say that now?

And welcome to... Brocast episode 4 You can fix that In editing Got gars Got gars, got some beers It's the evening What day is it Saturday

Chillin with the villains Maybe it's the villain cast Villain episode one Fill in with the villains You know, it's sort of like Wreck-it-Ralph where all the baddies from video games, sort of. Yeah, when Bowser shows up. It's really just breaking the internet. I forgot about that phrase.

Not a good one. Yeah. This thing totally broke the internet. It's a very, like, BuzzFeed term, I think. Well, before we get too deep into the show, let me shout out of those channel media patrons over at the Patreon. then make the audio version of the show possible and if you're a dibby tier or above you get those beautiful patron names read out

the first or second week of each month it won't be this one that probably won't be the next one because we've got a bulk record a couple because I got a funeral to go to and you've got a show to see so we've got a double troubled tonight so don't be questioned if we're in the same outfit if it seems like things are similar

We haven't worn the same outfit for a week straight. Do people really notice that? You know, I've never seen a comment about it, whatever that means, you know, whatever that quantifies. Well, just clearly lots. The YouTube comments, well, speaking of the YouTube comments, it's probably a good time to head over to housekeeping and round out some of those conversations from the previous week, some of those. Mad commenters Music lover D G3 WG and Heise 147 has this to say

First R then James within two years Alex will be the final remaining jar member Okay, where the frick is James? I said Yeah, I guess we had to say where the boy is or whatever. Yeah From all of his terror terrorist activities, um, attacking, got to lay low for a while. Yeah, all the neoliberal people on that. He's, he's a wanted man, I'm afraid. He's wanted, large and in charge.

Yeah, and if he's seen here, then it's basically a death sentence for him, you know? You'll get one of those FBI open up type situations, you know? but yeah um i guess to be a little bit more serious uh yeah james is taking a little break yeah um the i never i don't want anyone to feel obligated to take part just out of obligation yeah yeah i want anyone to feel like they could take a break whenever they want take it easy you know um yeah yeah it's happened before he's taking breaks before um he's fine like people get getting a little bit silly freaking out yeah just relax like it's just chill immediately people assume he's been conscripted into one of the many wars going on yeah um oh man and speaking of james you remember the mojave incident

right what should I say mojave yeah I've mojaved again brother yeah yeah yeah I know and I went along with it because I didn't know any better I yeah I got to address this one becoming chase can address this one yozamite ha ha it's Yosemite so I replied to that another Mojave moment for Alex oh people are they love this they're like they like these vultures you know they're waiting for me to trip up and get injured so they can like pack up my corpse you know my mistakes get my mistakes and this is a big one i guess um so what is it yo where even is it yosemite it's in california it's a big national park um sorry no no no do not apologize for that okay i'll take it back you know what fuck you

Yeah, fuck all of you. California. Fuck all you Yosemites. West Coast motherfuckers. You know? Like, is that, I know what we're making fun of some Americans, but not known with Stonehenges. Is, uh, Yosemite?

On the same level as that? Maybe. And you know what? When I was like, I obviously, I was seeing these comments and was like, okay, how do you say it then? Because like, there's no accents on any of it, of the word or whatever. Like to indicate.

the way you're supposed to pronounce it um and i found something interesting right um which i'll read after this one from fart salad vivo as a california and alex's pronunciation of yozumite made my jaw drop l m ao but yes california is a natural wonder outside of the city's very beautiful and diverse but you know what i'm not alone everyone's favorite president when i say that who do you think of Reagan Hmm Think of even more Ossomer than Reagan

Nixon Even more awesomer than Nixon Poooo! Even more fire than Nixon Genuinely There's quite a few options With American presidents Maybe this will help then right

I'm gonna play a little Lincoln No no I'm gonna play an audio clip And I need you to listen carefully Kennedy When they gaze upon your semites, your semites, towering sequoias, they'll... That's my president. Let me just play that one more time.

When they gaze upon your semites, your semites. He said it twice. He locked in. The president of the United States made the same as Nick. Almost. He was a little bit closer, to be fair. He was closer. I don't know, I feel like his was worse, because at least I owned it, you know.

I was like, I didn't stop. He was like, oh, you can tell he, like, no, he knew he messed up, tried it again, didn't quite work out. Yeah, he said it the same way both times. But I'm going to call it Yosemite. Same. This is the thing, like, to all the people in the know, it's like, how? how could you say that meanwhile like the place we live

the county we live in how would they say that you know exactly yoza might ain't even that far from uh Mojave it's not that far uh huh might as well be the same place

yeah I think this is a um what do you call it one of those CIA I'd say it's a gotcha of the woke left yeah that's what I'd say we're gonna have to take up that offer Oh myriad offers

Every day You know Yeah Every YouTube channel was just being offered To be a right-wing pundit It's not even that far from the truth Um Oh my god

With this one I had to capture Because every now and again There's a comment that's just like You're doing this for attention But I respect what you've conjured In order to get that attention You sometimes got to just Give props you know

Like this one from Ryan, Kuma. At a buffet, I personally sneak corn dogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide six corn dogs in my jacket pockets. If then... No, it then is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corn dogs, thinking they were part of the buffet. Hmm. Can you...

It's a... Is that wrong? No. He's like giving them free food. He's doing one missing out. Is he putting them in a little baggy? Before they go straight in the pocket, or are they touching pocket? I hope they're just like naked in his pocket.

Yeah, free. You know. And people are still eating them. Because corn dogs are messed up. Yeah, like you can't make it like less. Yeah, it probably... I'm sure it becomes healthier picking up the fibers of the pocket. Yeah, you might get like a straight.

a vitamin or something Yeah Maybe from one of those strands I want to end this segment With this one from C-Fube Because there's a little bit of a trend Starting and I'm not sure

Well I just straight I don't like it Okay I don't like it And everyone knows When you say you don't like something On the internet That means they're going to stop doing it Yep

Um So C-Fube says Alex has a young Charles Manson look to him A 70s hippie type of guy Yep When I think 70s hippie

I go straight The Charles Manson The classic hippie Um So yeah thanks for that I guess Hmm I feel like this has been a thing In the like long

In the The jar Law You know I guess starting with crackhead Alex What started with crackhead Alex

Just like a nutty Um Like psychotic side Hmm You know But I feel like most people Are in agreement

That that psychotic side Is at least dampened Over the years That was like Unfilted Yeah Um Yeah that was pure crack

Pure crack Pure crystallized crack I don't know how crack works I got some theories about the crackhead era and some

some notes on that time which I'm not going to bring up today but maybe in the future I've had it in the dock for a long time it just says like crackhead era in like bold

we'll get that to that when you're on Adderall on Leafy's Adderall maybe that is what I needed at the time maybe not Adderall but um

As soon as we're doing a double I need you to make a decision Because we got a couple of good subjects And I want to do one in this one and one in the next And I'm going to need you to Decide which one Because we've got One

Eggboy Or two Scary Science I'm going to go I'm going to get I'm going to egg boy I'm kind of glad you said Eggboy

Because The other night Sometimes when you text me I just don't get notifications or whatever So then like Like 10 o'clock I look And see I've got some text notifications And it's just like Alex Alex

Alex you have to see this And what do you send me Um Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? An old dog can teach himself new tricks. Yeah. That's what Corgi's be doing. Yeah.

What the fuck is wrong with this dog? Or what is right with this dog? Yeah. This was the first time where I was like, okay. Okay. You got skills. Yeah, I see your worth. You have potential here.

Like, embrace it. Stop being a shit. You know, I feel like a teacher looking at like a, Like Matt Damon I'm looking at Matt Damon And I'm like You got so much potential Use it

Why are you wasting Yeah So Aggie Agi lives with Mama Belkman Right Mm-hmm Mama Belmine also got chickens

Three naughty chickens Well Two of them are naughty One of them's a good Only two One is good Um They've got their coop

And their space of course But they have a knack for getting out the coop and exploring the garden or whatever little did the family know eggs were being laid outside of the coop

yeah because they keep escaping and then once escaped they can't return and they just roost wherever like in the wild chickens they roost in trees they're like you know I'm raised kind of surfaces and stuff so somewhere in the garden

a chicken has been laying eggs and who's been finding these eggs who's been retrieving these eggs but the egg boy himself none other so I get sent this picture right of

it's demented it's like a cartoon character crawled out of the screen this will probably be the thumbnail this will be like I'm sure it will be the picture on Spotify or whatever if you're not seeing it

go to the video the picture will be on screen now okay this is argue with a presumably a fresh egg um look fresh and correct me if I'm wrong but he's

so far he's found five or six eggs apparently he has a secret like this is how crazy it is right that that's not too mad right the egg dog getting the old egg but here's the way it gets crazy

okay out of these five or six eggs no one knows where he's getting he has a stash that he knows when he's being watched he won't go to the stash Because he doesn't want to let on where the stash is. So he'll only go and retrieve an egg when no one's looking.

So he has a stash just like, I'm pretty sure I told the chicken feed story a long time ago when that happened when he was, for those who don't know, sneaking the chicken feed when no one was looking. He was going and eating chicken feed and getting morbidly obese. And everyone was like, why is he getting so huge? Because he was sneaking chicken feed. He had teamed up with rats.

He teamed up with rats who would open the chicken feed, but Uggy wasn't fussed by the rats because everyone was happy. Everyone was winning, you know? Yeah. It was a full house. So he's, I don't know, I've been around like a lot of dogs, I've seen a lot of behaviours, but this one, like having this zone of like some kind of resource and like having the where athal to be like, this is too good to be true. I know there's something bad about doing this I'm going to hide this behaviour from everyone else so they won't stop me

so they can't stop me The confusing part though is that He brought the egg to the door With no like intention of eating it Otherwise he would have crunched it He gently picked up the egg He carried it to the door And what he wants to come in

Yeah, with the egg Yeah So then he comes in and then then we're like Aggie, drop and he does he puts, he gently puts the egg down and we eat the egg and he's like yeah. Like that egg

is amongst the other eggs now like this is what I mean he's he's he's shown a purpose to me he there's a healthy ecosystem going on you know if if the egg is cracked if he drops the egg if he picks it up

a bit too harshly he will eat the egg. He'll eat them yeah but his intention is to bring it inside I guess so he brought the egg in happy days you know for everyone's winning because I've seen like gimmick videos like shorts or whatever it's like look a select

guy with minion yeah minion you know everyone just knows minion yeah yeah yeah what's that all about yeah he's got like an egg basket you can probably train argue to do something like that yeah but Argy's got a He's got a rebel heart You know

He does He's got an eggy heart as well clearly Yeah But the The intention is confusing to me Because he seemed to just want to hold it He didn't seem to Yeah that's a classic

Aggie behaviour is Pick up thing And just walk around Holding it while crying Yeah He's probably done that on the cast Many of time even But he wasn't crying

He just had the egg I was freaking out when I saw that scared you were scared um also I guess before we go to the mid break I mentioned this funeral right

the funeral is for I guess our grandmother-in-law one we've mentioned before owner of Max the Golden so I'm going to be in Wales and might get a chance to go see that boy.

I guess I'll report back in a couple weeks. Yeah, that would be so premium. And yeah, so it would be a loaded day if that's what happens. I've never been. I'm 30 years old and I've been to a funeral. So that would be interesting. especially like we've mentioned this before we're like our dynamic in our family

is that we're we're kind of the only ones in our generation in the place we sit that we've got like cousins that are like yeah 12 years plus younger and like uncles and aunties that are like tail end of millennial or whatever or all over the place

but yeah we sit in a certain spot where like certain family dynamics we don't know all the details of so then like I offered to go to this funeral or whatever and then I kind of find out like oh yeah by the way this other side of the family they kind of resent our family

because of our granddad and ways he's behaved and whatnot that we have I got no like context for I was not born with all this like history all this family law and whatnot so that would be interesting

yeah just stay alive so if I don't come back you know why yeah it's kind of it's a very rural part of Wales it's very very rural

and they hate English people Hate our asses, yeah Yeah Well, they Yeah, they specifically hate us But I get the vibe That is kind of

In England thing So I noticed I'm getting The grandpa eye So hopefully They don't see too much Of him and me And snap

Yeah, yeah So They see one of them hoods One of them eye hoods And they break They get out The double barrel So wish me luck

And And see off these messages Do you think this light makes me look ill? I think it makes everyone look ill, right? Do you think? Doctors say I'm the illest, because I'm suffering from realness. I'll say. Hey, it's me, Zeus, the god.

My fully endorse the jarmedia merchandise available in the description below. Welcome to the second half of the cast. We head over to the Jarm Media Suggestion thread over on the subreddit and answer all your mad, wacky questions like this one. From Cinec Docky 239. Since they share the same director and lead actor, how do you think Deadpool and Wolverine will compare to the underappreciated avant-garde boundary-pushing, generation-defining cinematic masterpiece Friego?

Also, side note, Ryan Reynolds needs to upload a video on his YouTube channel of Guy Dude or Antoine, oh, Tyco Botti's character and Freego, reacting to the new Debord and Wolverine trailer with Tom Wamsgams since Matthew McFadden is in the movie. Did you see that? No. There's a new one, bro. I know. Marvel's back in her here, baby. Yeah, this is going to bring back Marvel round three, whatever it is. It's actually been a long-ass time since a Deadpool movie.

It was pre-COVID. Yeah. I remember we went to Bath, I think, to go see Deportier. Jesus, did we? Yeah, it was like 2018 or something. You sure it wasn't chipping him? We went to Bath, I'm telling you, bro. This is pre-COVID.

This is pre-all-sorts. Pre-DISney buying... Deadpool. Fox. Yeah, Fox. That's the one. 20th century Fox. Yeah, I don't know.

I haven't watched the trailer. I don't care. I'm kind of... I'm not gonna like it. I know that. I don't know I'm not gonna like it. I didn't really like the trailer particularly. I'm just...

There's something inherent about like... You bring Wolverine out. You're bringing the Hugh Jackman member berries. Like, man, he had Logan. That was cool. Yeah, Logan... The whole point of it was like him wrapping up and putting a bow on like this actor

who's played this character and it's like, let's say goodbye. No, go in the fucking grave. pull him out yeah give Hugh Jackman like 300 million yeah

he would definitely he can't say no it's it's gonna suck it's gonna be trash and it's one of the it's the only Marvel movie this year

really yeah I mean good yeah good I don't I don't know to say otherwise but

I hate the um that it's actually a possibility that in this comment they're like, what if he got I did like a react he could, he might. And you've seen that other the other Ryan Reynolds vehicle for this year

is John Krasinski from the office's movie called If it's kind of like Foster's Home for imaginary friends, but like live action and Ryan Reynolds' voices like what's that purple monster from McDonald's? You know what I'm saying? The grimace.

Grimmis, yeah. He kind of looks like Grimmis, but he's voiced by Ryan Reynolds. Okay. And they ruin a LCD sound system song that I love in the trailer. Nice. That's how it starts. Listening to Ryan Reynolds. You know that one.

Mm-hmm. I know the exact one. Mm-hmm. So that looks good. Yeah. What depravity will he not? I'm surprised he's not in borderlands. Yeah.

God. He'd actually fit in quite. well yeah it's kind of perfect for it hmm speaking of perfect um dick the head says is there any more as good slash bad as they say is on the horizon my thirst needs quenching um yes i can say um i've i've mentioned it every now and again on jar been like doing i think my third play through of Red Dead really want to Billy I kind of need

some space right now yeah I finished Red Dead just a couple days ago got lots of footage recorded got big ass heaps of notes I think after doing those

MassFit videos we know how to go in I'm ready to go in like I'm ready to go in Yeah, I don't know how many people do this, but I find myself when playing a game in my heads without like intentionally trying to, but I'm trying to come up with ways of how to explain how I feel about what I'm playing. That's, yeah, that's a big part of the fun for me, is like trying to find words because like everyone knows they like Red Dead. but it's like why

what is what is the thing why is it still selling tens of millions of copies why is it past 50 million copies why people going back what is the thing there's the obvious stuff

but there's like there's layers there are there are fan theories there are there's secrets there's analysis there's so much to analyze and yeah yes it's

I think anything that can have like an iceberg video made about it is rife. And the fact that it's like still still like regular like YouTube content and whatnot being made about like characters

about law or about this kind of stuff and the game came out in like 2018 around the time of Deadpool right? I guess. Dude it's not even that long until it's 10 years old. Mm-hmm. And how prescient it still is like seeing

there was a poll recently somehow collected of like top ten favorite slash best video game characters and Arthur Morgans in the top ten um it's like yes hell yeah it wouldn't surprise me if he hit number one who was number one if you remember of it was you know it was like Mario and master chief and these kind of characters um mascots that'll probably take once a once it's recorded which would be a process in and of itself um it's gonna take a little while to put together but I think it'll be It's worth it.

Goddam Dwarf says, Hey, Jar Jimbers. The airline I work for does a competition every once in a while in which employees can submit names for airplanes. What are some jar-related names I could submit?

The only stipulation is that the name must either contain the word blue or mint in some way. Cheers, boys, your podcast really helps me to get through my workday. Bracket bloat. Dude. Yeah, you're right.

Brick blue. Black it blue. Bracket blue. That's an awesome one. Or like, we mentioned vociferous a fair amount. Like, vociferous mint. Mint vociferous. Mint ziphras? Um.

Our 5ian mint. Our mintian Zee. I feel like there's a bit... I think you actually got it, actually. Bracket blue. I heard the word blue when I was like... Yeah, you got it immediately. Yeah.

It's hard to beat. And on similar lines, Punish Pizza says, Hey, guys, I'm a worm jarling. Would you like me to introduce some jar Easter eggs into my next agave plant? If you feel. You know we support worms on this pocket.

If there's anything. Hmm? Where I'm not... You know, I'm sick of hiding it. We are worm adjacent, okay? Fine. We're the number two. You know, there have been rumours spreading.

People, you know, whispers. Like grapevine. All sorts of worms live on that grapevine. They live in the grapes and they spread. Worms love grapes. Everyone knows this. I indulged in that grapevine thing to such a degree where, like, I forgot where I was...

going with it just we're worm adjacent yeah so sorry I know that's going to hurt some people to hear but well I mean if if if you can't hear someone out um just because you don't feel the same way as them then I'm afraid you're what you're you're more of the worm and we kind of tend to like I don't know we we tackle the tough subjects on here you know mm we talk about some heavy heavy realness Yeah, brutal Wormal Facts

Worm ordeal Yeah I'm feeling it This is Last year was the The year of the Grub This is Year of the Maggot

I mean worm Yeah I was gonna say Are maggots The Grubbs um well you know insect yeah insectologist jarling our grubs in no i don't even care our grubs our grubs no our maggots grubs

are worms insects i feel like we've even talked but they're not are they they're like a different thing that's right because the worm jarling's already told us about this um pristine cd 2660 says my bears not sure if you realize but there seemed to be a raging house fire in the last episode might want to deal with this next time to avoid embarrassment. Any woos, please rank the top three British politicians and which Madagascar they are,

trying to suss out who to vote for. I was going to say, back when you asked me about the best president, I feel like England doesn't have a single one where we can be like, that guy was real, you know? Like America had a bunch Like people they like Churchill a lot Yeah but I mean

Like there's things that can be said You know like like Like Americans like George Washington a lot And like Churchill They're like he wasn't a perfect man By any means he was Probably a pretty terrible one But you got like Lincoln

You know Stood for something pretty pretty cool You got like Kennedy You know He was kind of a cool guy and he went out like a like a G

you know so there's at least two can you name you're not saying what Madagascar characters they are I'm just dropping that my point is can you come up with two British

prime ministers that you can be like okay yeah they were fire Liz Truss David Cameron BJ Mike drop moment Rishy

The dish The dishy Yeah I mean that's kind of my point Like Churchill is as good as it gets Oh there's Churchill Like It's like split up into like

Factions almost Because there are people Not a small amount of them Thatcher is that way A lot of people talk about her that way. Yeah. But, like, do you... Is anyone out there in America, like, man, Lincoln fucking sucked?

Like, I get that was a lot. A long-ass time ago. But, yeah. My point is... There's wooden teeth. No, that was George. That was George. Didn't they just all have wooden teeth?

Back then? They still did. that's part of like the the ceremony yeah we don't we don't we ain't there's one thing I'm jealous of America we ain't got those fathers you know

yeah like our equivalents are the royalty you know we're not taught about our prime ministers the people who actually like run the country day today we learn about kings and queens kings and queens

and even that too that's all the British history you get Henry the 8th and World War II Yeah The only kings and queens I ever learned about at school with the Tudors And they were 90% fuck Yeah

They were fucked up man It's a shame in a way Because like And I do attribute this to I guess failures in the education system where like British history is immense there is so much going on that it's so old it's such an old empire country like there's so much history here that you just I don't know it's not communicated in a way that really illustrates how what that means how like there are

places like New Zealand is just a child in comparison. You know, America is a baby in comparison to like the history to how much is going on. And yeah, I feel like it's not even just about the UK for me. It's just history in general. Like the way it was communicate, it was like

seemed so dull and Yeah, it was more hoop jumping. It was like we have to hit like. And it was more like, oh, make sure you remember those dates. And if you don't have that kind of brain where it's like on this date on this thing and this really specific but like I don't have

a memory like that so like yeah when it came to like writing history essays or whatnot that you all had to pull from memories so I can't do that yeah it's just not how it works but there's just so much it's just endless intrigue like if you've seen anything

about this this Joe Rogan that came out the other day with um Graham Hancock and uh graham hancock is like quite a controversial i don't know what you call them an archaeologist um you might have seen him or seen clips of him around online where he has all these theories about like the pyramids yeah the pyramids and like the sphinx and the amazon jungle and stuff and the idea that there was some ancient civilization that was like washed from history

and that he's like written books about it and whatnot and there was this big like kind of debate with these two um figures hancock and this other fellow who uh he's called like flint gibble this guy and he's like a cartoon character in the episode he's got this like comically large like hat like cowboy hat on almost that he's committed to so much that like he's wearing the headphones in a specific way so he could keep the hat on and he's wearing this like shirt that's like way too big for him. This is just like this is like the Simpsons

or something like it's just straight out. It's so far beyond like caricature. And how did I get their history I guess and all this kind of do you believe in any of that like the pyramids were built by the aliens?

I think we can get quite easily carried away by that big question mark of like how much we don't know. but I'm not I guess I'm not confident enough I haven't studied any of this stuff I haven't researched history

I don't know anything about you know geology and studying like carbon dating and what any of this bloody means like I think I think it's dumb to say aliens build the pyramids

I don't know if that's what he says, but that's one of the... Yeah, yeah, but that type of... Yeah, yeah. Joe Rogan has had that sort of... Well, he's always loved that conspiracy... Yeah, like, it's fun. If you're, like, writing a sci-fi backstory... Yeah, yeah.

To have something like that in your story... Yeah, yeah, so it's a cool... A bit of law. ...trop, isn't it? Yeah. The ancient civilization that was more advanced than you'd imagine, because they were older than you currently yeah um yeah that's cool it's like a fun idea that like you want to be real so then people like you know yeah i think i think if it were the case

it would be more obvious you know have we found any relics of any like computer i do find that like i do find it cool though like that we have these jungles and whatnot that are like so dance that like GPS doesn't work and it's like yeah yeah it's terrain like so difficult what if their tech was like so advanced that like we wouldn't we don't even recognize it you know right yeah it just looks like that to us it's like uh it's basically like that that disney film atlantis yeah yeah well they're straight up pretty much like feeding into those same kind of ideas right well atlantis is that yeah that's like the whole idea is it lost city

biblical? I couldn't tell you. I don't know all the all the history of Atlantis. Yeah, like, where does it go from? Wasn't it like the I can't remember if it was the Portuguese or like Spanish

empire that was like obsessed with Atlantis and they were really trying to find it or some shit? Really? Something like that. Yeah, it could be wrong, but someone will tell me. That would make sense then if it is biblical. If there's some talk of some... Yeah, if it's biblical, like what holy book's talking about Atlantis? Is it in it?

The Bible? Maybe. I don't know. Atlantis, when, um, the guy from back to the future just hunts for it. That's in the Bible, right? What? The guy from back? He voices, yeah, he voices the main guy in Atlantis.

Oh, you're right. You're completely right. I am completely right. Um, press start 14 says, thoughts on the illusion of free will, Jim. Um, what, what about it? What thoughts? Thoughts on the illusion of it?

I think it's handy and I think it's dangerous. Handy, how? I think it makes it easier for people to be chill, you know? With the craziness of everything. To be aware of your lack of literal control is kind of a curse. Yeah, I could see, I guess, why someone would reject the idea or not like the idea, because it's really more of a, it's not a, it's not a, it's not the majority opinion, let's say. Most people believe in free will.

I don't think people can It's a weird catch-22 Because If you believe in it You If you believed in it To its full extent And you were like

Okay I can I'm gonna like prove it wrong By doing nothing Yeah Because that's often how like it that's where if the concept is brought up to someone then they'll be like well no because

I have the choice because now I'm thinking I'm going to raise this and I'm only doing that because I'm thinking but that is in response to the prompt of it so that's how you were like programmed

to respond to that stimulus and what we can only have this conversation even because of the way our lives were set up and the things we've been shown. It's kind of the luxury of not having to survive. You know, that's the whole thing with philosophy.

Yeah, you can know, what do they call it? Just like intellectual masturbation or whatever. Yeah, essentially it is. But I think taken to its logical conclusion, you could say, okay like that means morals are essentially pointless and anything I do

isn't my fault so I can do whatever I want so if someone that's a really bad way to yeah but it is a conclusion you can make from it essentially no one is responsible for their actions

but we still need to be responsible for our actions hence it being a catch 22 I feel like that's kind of where nihilism comes from Yeah It's like reaching a certain conclusion And then being like Well everything is pointless Yeah

And then you become like a terrible person Um It's not a very good like Ideology or philosophy to Live your life But if you want any kind of Self-Satisfaction or Happiness or contentness or

Yeah I I just feel like what What you would find if you did behave that way after coming to the conclusion that like you you have no free will and then you're like fuck it

I'm gonna just do whatever I want I'm gonna be terrible I'm gonna like I was always gonna do it I was always gonna be yeah yeah yeah just just kind of as a fuck you

because it's like everything's pointless yeah I think you'd find yourself like feeling that that shame and

unless you're a true like associate battle yeah unless you're just totally nuts but then you're probably you don't need the excuse of having free will so yeah it's like a catch 33 it comes like full circle

where even if you land at that conclusion there's no reason to behave in that way but even then it's that scary stat right that like it's like three to five percent or something of the population are psychopaths slash sociopath type people and that that's not like a freak accident it probably is some weird thing natural selection type thing so somehow it's helped it's helped humanity to have that rough percentage of the population be that way yeah for some freakish weird like it's like a mutation um that is successful and stays around but it can't be too successful

because then you won't be able to form communities and have like stability Yeah but some people just like You kind of need ruthlessness Every now and again For like growth For To succeed

Like every nation is in like competition with each other Like you need people that just don't fucking give a shit About the person next to me Yeah And it is a thing I guess about humans and humanity that we are like conquerors we are there are we are like community builders and we want like peace within our communities but we're quite historically like violent um like comparatively I mean there's still a lot of the opposite

of peace happening because of humans yeah got you we just as you said earlier we got the that luxury of yeah we can just sit for hours every week and just pontificate into the i just can't i can't fathom a way that free will does exist it doesn't make sense so what you think um you think most people are just coping no i i just personally feel like it's way more absurd to to believe that we all have total power yeah over our future i think that's that's the big thing for me where it's like at some point in your life something's going to happen to you that's completely out of your control and that feeling is going to crush you in a way that it might not if you've already come to terms of the fact that there's so much chaos and there's so much so many

variables that you have absolutely no control over that getting that realization through something at that extreme is like a double whammy you know not only is it something like life changing or that you weren't expecting but it also might yeah like flip your paradigm of yeah totally crushed your like world view mm-hmm yeah because I like have that thought literally every time I get into a car like that's how like paranoid I am yeah um It's like, yeah, this kid, this could be the one. Like, I don't trust these other motherfuckers' track. You don't, you don't know.

They could be like a truck and the, the brakes have gone out because someone missed something somewhere. And it's like, yeah. There is like a balance with that. And I've mentioned it before with, like, some people, they aren't self-aware enough and never think about that. And there are others who are too self-aware. And it, like, especially if they're more like,

kind of wound up or anxious minded like someone like me um where that can be completely debilitating yeah it's almost like paralysis and you you get stuck in these like circles yeah but i think i think kind of a pathetic way to use it is to um make it a justification for like doing shitty things um like to just because you don't have free will quote unquote doesn't mean like you can't change

and still like consciously become better or that inherently devalues the experience because in a way it's like it opens everything up where it's like there is a beauty

being able to experience a slither of the insanity to be able to take part at all because that's where part of the denialism and the anti-natalism the anti-having kids thing kind of comes in

I don't know it's easy to say I guess from like the ivory tower maybe if you're born into a situation like our step-grandma, maybe maybe the we'd interpret life would be different, but I like thinking about it.

Well, I mean, her case is exactly kind of why I think it's absurd to believe in free will. Because, like, why, if you're someone that is born into a bad circumstance, you have every reason to make the right choices and get yourself

into a good circumstance. If every single person had that power, why isn't everyone doing it? It's like a tiny percentage of people that, like, can break out of that. Why is that? Because they're an outlier. Like, I kind of see all of life as like a, like the planet almost as like an organism. Like a petri dish. Yeah.

It's like, yeah. It's this ecosystem. And like, did we? we consciously try and fuck it you know we had no idea and like we're we're setting our systems and our ways our like programming it's so hard to shift out of like current paradigm and we're yeah we are we are monkeys that have figured stuff out we've outpaced our bodies and kind of yeah where like we still have all of these things about us that we've evolved to do in order to get to this point to begin with right so that makes sense um so like a lot of these

these problems we do have um because they're so far removed from what our body understands a problem to be yeah yeah so like a human 200,000 years ago the things that you needed to be able to to do. Yeah, like wrestle a fucking woolly mam or something. And now it's like wrestling

of someone saying something fucked up about you on social media. Yeah, yeah. We're like... This dude's fat. This berry tastes

so good because it's got sugar in and sugar's so valuable because the calories are so useful. So it hijack that reward process. Yeah.

Of course you don't stand a chance. You know? Well, yeah, and then, um, we come up with a system that, like, rewards the most, like, graby. Consumption. Yeah. Consume, consume, because, like, you can't not, you know, it makes you feel fucking great when you're spending money buying sweets, gambling, alcohol, fucking, all of it. All of it.

You know? And reward greed. it's like why why wouldn't we have done that yeah it just makes too much sense I guess there's a thing

you catch humans doing a lot where we kind of like romanticise the idea of being a human yeah big time we're like we almost see ourselves as above the ecosystem we're in or above animals or like yeah i've mentioned this concept before too where like you look at a bird and you're like you're dumb compared to us or yeah yeah you look at a bug and you're like yeah you're

gonna squash you're nothing when it's like well actually we kind of really need that bug we really need those birds yeah birds keep the bugs under control the birds need to be eaten by but and it's like yeah it's all this delicate balance of shit going on um that the There's so much bigger than an individual human or even a collection of humans. Yeah, I can see in the future there being much more integration with that sort of... There's a place in China where, like, the cities are designed around, like, trees and stuff growing in the city. Like, up the skyscrapers and stuff. and I mean that will probably have a bunch of like knock on effect issues for people

but in a way it's like I mean it's kind of the balancing act there needs to be a give and take yeah you don't just do one or the other yeah it's either that or just like concrete over the whole planet and you know then we'll see how long we lost Yeah.

Because that will wipe out everything, you know. The concrete jungle. Yeah. Well, there's... Works for Spider-Man. Worth it for Spider-Man, to be fair. What's worth it for Spider-Man? Well, you can't have Spider-Man without, like, New York.

Where else does Spider-Man work? True, it doesn't really work at any other places. You couldn't swing around Swindon. He wouldn't be much good in the UK, really, at all. You could probably do a bit of London, but for the most part, Just like the central big bit. Yeah. Other than that, it's fucked.

We don't have that many skyscrapers, really. No. That's all a lot of places. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we figured out everything. All of the world. Yeah, I think I may have just been saying shit, you know?

Saying words that might work together contextually. Yeah, I don't know. Grammatically. We'll find out. Mm. Well, let us know what you think, I guess. comments so it's nice to talk about these kind of things tell me why I'm wrong please

please yeah I like reading about this debate these musings um I think we're gonna cut this one off here because we've got another one to do yeah I've got some juicy goodies

to bring up in that one I've been saving nice so so we'll be right back after these week long messages yeah in a week we'll be back probably wearing similar clothes maybe I should change or something I'll put my dressing gown on perhaps now it's getting

nearly 10pm so you know what let's wrap this up brother night night to join me on this day check out the jam media patron and all that stuff

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