JAR Media Posdact - Yeah, He Went THAT Way - JARCast Episode 237

Episode Date: July 26, 2021

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No, you do it. Good afternoon, morning, evening, all night, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this episode of the charm of your podcast. It is episode 2, 3, 7. And today we are joined by Jamie and Alex. And a big thank you to the Patreon's over at Patreon for supporting this show and making the audio version possible. So, uh, how are we doing our boys?

You know, pretty warm. Actually, pretty cold. Pretty cold. I'd say I'm teppard. It has recently been for all of the international jar fans out there. It has been a heat wave in the UK recently.

For last week, it's been... Australia heats. Fucking disgusting, basically. Yeah, straight up Australia heat. No, if you don't believe in climate change, you're a moron. You're stupid. You're an idiot.

And it's not just the heat. You know, China's had the worst rainfall in a thousand years. Canada. Canada set fire or something. No, California's on fire at the moment. Canada got like 50 fucking degrees or some shit. Just an obscene amount of abnormality that this is not right for the Earth and this cycle in a world. As you can see, though, we've all got wicked tans as a result. Yeah, we're looking.

I don't know I've I've gone a little bit red actually I'm getting that red hue going I'm getting the pinky piggy sort of people will think I'm native

to tomato town at this rate nah it just means you're just like a because the meme of British people is if you go to any country and you see someone who's pink they're British

no matter what country are you in if they're pink they're English that's just the old the pink little piggyes the piglets yeah beans can we quickly

address something before we move on to the barrel we haven't called it that for a little while I don't think well I think no I think Crucible is very very appropriate given the current enjoying regarding games at the moment so we'll head over to the comment

crucible very soon but go ahead Jamie wanted to throw out there Jim I don't know if people always catch this but your Alex's face pulling the fuck what do you mean sometimes you look at the TV or or the camera

or I'll catch you looking at me or James while we're talking just doing like the the fakesest like interested face I've ever seen in my life like what like what whatever you just did like I've noticed it I noticed it all the time you do it all the time why have you never commented you do it outside of

I do it for reaction but no one ever reacts that's exactly why I don't react I just leave it I don't know how to quite can you do that at the camera do what I didn't do anything there's so many there is so many pictures of Alex

on the Reddit that people just screenshot of Alex making weird faces I do the same thing I just pull random faces at weird times but I don't know it's like a what does it mean like are you actually listening when's the way

I can multi-dusk but it looks like you know when you're talking to someone you're really you're not interested in what they have to say yeah you don't want to talk with them yeah so you're like feigning interest you know you're pretending that

really it's like an exaggerated cartoonized version of that it's like hyper exaggerated and it just caught me off guard just then I guess you do it so often that it's it's like a non thing to me now but just then I guess because

I've switched seats with James I look over at you and like it can be like a bit of a diffuser sometimes you know yeah yeah you like push your jaw forward as well you know it's it's the Randy face it's what you do with Randy

it's like Randy's default expression twin thing, you know. Yeah, yeah. Let's do some housekeeping then. Let's clean up some of this fucking bullshit, all right? I can't believe we didn't mention this last episode. I'm actually fucking... I'm actually disappointed in all of us, quite frankly, for this.

Oh, what? Bro, that's heartbreaking. When we were talking about the England final, that's all gone and done and dusted. but what was important was that there was a particular Italian player who had donned some specific tattoos that were

fairly interesting. Maxi Rondo left a comment saying just thought I should make you all aware that a member of the Italian squad Francesco Serby has all the Madagascar characters tattooed on his arm maybe the awesome power he gained from this was wisely won, cheers. I did know about this. Yeah, as soon as they won it was just like

they just noticed the attack. It was before they won. I saw a tweet that was someone saying, like, we can't let Italy win because this guy has this tattoo. It's hit the balance. Yeah, no. When I saw that, I thought, oh, they actually

have a chance. Maybe that's why they lost is because when, like, they were shaking hands at the beginning of the game, well, the England players saw those arms with the characters on in the, like, we're done. Pure intimidation. I find the most weird thing to think of is that

someone out there likes it enough to get all of the characters tattooed well like how old would that guy be he could be quite young he I think he's minus 30s like late 20s early 30s so like close enough to my age

but when Madagascar was coming out I thought I was like too old for it and thought it was lame now I reckon he's younger than you if I had to guess I'd know what is he a meme or is he a meme chatter he is Italian remember I remember, like, Europeans, they're quite into the bunkers sort of attitude of the

Madagascar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that, that baseline alone is very European to me. The whole third movie in it, of course. Yeah, based in Europe. Yeah, yeah. Rob left a comment, R-R-B.

It's a good cast when the last three segments are the monkey segment, designed with an island in mind and cockney slang slash aliens last episode got a uh interesting response actually some people some people like coming in early saying it's the chaos episode might go down as one of them um really what do you mean super early days i reckon yeah yeah chaos that what dude there are fans of the chaos episode already which one is the chaos episode Wasn't it like the last episode? It's the previous one. Yeah.

No, the previous one wasn't. It was the one before the previous one. No, the previous one was when we talked about monkeys. Yeah, yeah. That wasn't the chaos episode. Yeah, it was, right? Wait. No, that wasn't the chaos episode.

What did we talk about? The thumbnail was like Deadpool and Cork. That's not the chaos episode. The chaos episode was the one before that. No, I'm going on the official Jarm Media YouTube channel, and I'm going to prove you all wrong. So Jarm Media. I'm on the channel

Okay So the last episode we had We had thousands of bees with ease And then baby James is coming home Baby James is coming home To the chaos episode Because before Yeah so a couple weeks ago then

Before that was chaos energy Where I joked that we haven't got any And it's the episode after that Where we had it Yeah Yeah Um So

So But let's be on that You know Wait so But that's You can't call it the chaos episode um is the curry episode called the curry episode yes that's the curry episode we lived two curry episodes today yeah we did in real time and i went insane yeah i hate it i hate

it so much no because you're just blaming me because it is completely my it is always your fault yes i know every fucking time it's not my i i've said not we've talked about this before we've talked about it's the infamous curry episode it's why Yeah, the Curry episode taught us that we need to have a system. I know, I was just... The most democratic system of all, where we... No, that's not a democratic system. It is a democratic system.

You go by the majority. The majority is how politics works. The majority doesn't work when it's three people. Yes, it does. The majority works in England when there's only two parties. Uh, hello, UKIP. Shut up. Edit that out.

No, but no, I pointed out today that the idea that one of us has to choose is a bad system. Because that doesn't take into, it doesn't take into consideration what you guys actually think. Because on any given day. No, but on any given day, on any given day, when we had a whole week of work, we all fancy different things on the Friday when we record. so having one of us just choose makes no sense and the jarlings will agree with me

that that doesn't work it does work so I propose that we should have a system that's more like a political system where we have a political system who the majority wins and you guys are just like nope that's not how it works

let's do a political system vote on if we change our type of government all in favour of James's version of government no that's bullshit it doesn't work like that Even James doesn't want his version of government. Our system works. Okay, okay.

If it works, if it works, then why did today happen? Because of you. True. No, you came into the house and I was like, let's get, let's get award women Sammy's right. And you're like, I don't know about that. I'm going to have to veto this. And then an hour goes by and then we get Sammy. Yeah.

No, no, no, no. Okay, no, because I vetoed my guess, okay? I vetoed my choice. choice. And then it was agreed that the Sammies was the choice before I even got here. So it was already Samis. No, no. We agreed. You came for dinner yesterday. Yeah. And we agreed

then. Did I agree the Sammies yesterday? That's why I'm so hot about it. The plot thickens. Oh, the plot thickens. I'd forgotten about Sammies. I hadn't had a Samis since before lockdown. But you were like, yeah, he's like award winning. And it's like... Okay, so I pointed out, this is actual... In the UK, there is a kebab van of the year competition.

And Sammies is in the final. this year and not only how many how many is the finals well there's two from Wiltshire alone such as about the whole of England there's probably quite a few but the thing is Sammy's got to the finals before he posted on his Facebook like yet again I'm so happy that I've been voted to be the best again like you know the best as well yeah yeah but you should you you can't dangle that Sammy in front of me after it's been so long and then try and rip it away from him no but the thing is if I walked in I walked in just now as you said oh we're getting Sammy

And I was like, no. All you had to do is say to me, you said yesterday we're getting a samis. I did. I don't remember you. Did you forget? Yes, I completely forgot. Because then you've already put the ball. I've already throwing the ball.

You'll remind me I've put the ball in your court. So I'd have been like, oh, yeah, sure, then. But because I didn't know that, I was just like, I can fight back. I can fight against this choice. And I made my choice. I said we should get a charcoal grill, which is Sammy's, but shit. And you guys are just like, no, not having it. And then we had like a fucking fit, like half hour discussion about the longer.

Hour. The thing is, I arrived and you guys were already discussing it. We'd already been discussing it, yeah. Yeah, and I arrive, and the discussion goes from then for about an hour. So really what we should have done is just had mics and been like, here's the fucking, here's a bonus episode of Jat. Yeah, we could do an extra pop. If you guys love the curry episodes so much, we could do one a week for you. Yeah, if you're standards of that way.

Three weeks, every time it gets to James's choice. Yeah, we can record any, like, boring shit like that, you know? Yeah. Like, the next time we all do a shit at the same time, we can, like, hop on FaceTime, whatever, record that and upload it, fuck. No, that would be important. We wouldn't be able to upload that, sorry. Because, Ben, if I'm taking a shit and it's that bad, I'm going to be fully naked, and it's just, you can't, we can't record that. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

James Stanley left a question for us. What does Jow think of the forthcoming Steam Deck? which is effectively a PC and Nintendo Switch form Um, it's a Nintendo Switch But better No, it's already been confirmed They can't play a lot of games A lot of steam like

No, like top... Yeah, I don't know the full details yet I'm I find the The product alluring to me Yeah, it's cool It's a cool idea Yeah Um

Well, what do you have against it? Is it streaming games Or is it playing games off of its own hardware? I'm pretty sure it's... I thought the idea as you download it onto the thing. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's got the hardware for it. The biggest thing for me was the stick placement. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Yeah, that's something I wouldn't... I'd need to try it before buying it. How much is it, though? Yeah, I don't know. $400, right? That's right, yeah. So it would be like 600 quid or something here. Yeah, it'll be like two granders.

No, because normally you take the 1.3... 1.35 conversion rates, it's normally like it would be $250, 270. but obviously no it will be it will be 400 quid yeah because when they sell stuff here they just increase it

it's like fucking $600 compared in America for them when they're getting for free and yeah yeah so and I'd say that that's not no point buying it I would avoid it at that cost the UK cost

what it will be 400 quiff for a like portable gaming PC but it's been there's loads of news but there's news it's not winning games as it should it's not one in game as good as they can

we'll have to wait for and see what it's like. What do you mean, though? I think they tested, I think they tested a few games and they just couldn't want, it could, but like what? Were they testing like cyberpunk and shit?

No, like, the big games, like Apex Fortnite, I think. I cannot confirm I just saw this on a, like, this is the thing, like, are they going to have versions of the game

like crafted for this device? I don't know. I think it's, I think it's like a PC. It's the equivalent of a PC. It's a small, powerful PC but it's handheld so saying that all you'd

have to do is just lower the settings if that's the case then then you get the choice of like what frame rate and shit you can make to me like is more alluring than the switch to me yeah and the fact like you said it's got your whole steam library

I've got loads of games loads of games that I'd actually prefer to play in handheld yeah same the type of games that don't need a lot of power to run and if I could if like I'm being driven somewhere or... Yeah, I think it's a really good idea and I hope it kind of reinvigorates

that market and finding some competition for tender. Yeah. I've just been walking over that whole space, really. I'm just trying to find some, like, news on it to... We don't need to linger on it there. I mean, like, we know it's like so little and we're still in housekeeping.

Apparently it's been confirmed that Valve is targeting 30 FPS with it. Yeah. out to like a native resolution yeah whatever so yeah we'll see we'll see yeah um so let's end this segment

with this one then about we were trying to recall the origin of Jim's nickname Beast and we addressed it last episode but that comment it was wrong they were wrong they lied they have the facts wrong

so we have multiple comments saying things like brain death scene left this one not a question but I'd like to make a correction on the true origin of Jamie being called Beast. Back in the crackhead Alex era, there was an episode where Alex started the podcast by introducing everyone with his own made-up names.

Ruben was bugs. James was the kangaroo boy, parentheses, pouch for short. Alex was Mirror and Jim was Beast. Ever since then, the nickname stuck and Jim has embraced the beast persona. No, I remember pout. I remember you called it.

I'm so pleased with this. I think they're perfect. Yeah, they are. They're incredible. mirror mirror yeah that I'm more pleased with that

I think it just being a as much as I like the chase it just being a It's much better That it also happens to be a chase thing Yeah And just coincides It's just more layers to it

You know What chaser are you That really intimidating woman You know the one Sort of older woman She's always wear sort of like a suit. I don't know, I know. Got attitude.

Can we bring back Pouch? You want to be Pouch? Pouch is a kind of great nickname. It's like Australian and you've got like your family in Australia. Yeah, I think that works. Pouch. Only if you call me mirror. Yeah, sure.

Can we not bring that back? What, MIR? Mirror. Mear. Only if you call me MIR. You say it like M-E-E-R. M-E-R. Like the way Americans say.

Yeah, yeah. Don't I... Mere. Mere? Mere. I hate... I hate... I hate...

I hate the way they say MIR. We got, like, a lot of stuff happened this week. It's been a busy, busy week. Can we start with this one, though? No, we can't. Start on another one. Okay, I'll change it then. A certain...

Someone we are huge fans of on JAR. A certain iguana-eaten motherfucker. made his way into space looking like a cowboy Jeff Bezos going up there looking like a cowboy You're not seeing this He went with a cowboy hat and all

Really? I don't know the name is Stepson Maybe I think I'm a big guy Jeff Bezos flew a dick into space He flew his little blue origin rocket Was the rocket Intentionally shaped like a dick

If it was It wasn't very subtle How do you accidentally Make a spaceship look like a dick. Yeah. But I read a, like, a comment somewhere saying, like, I think I've really said this to you guys outside of job,

but it was like, yeah, it used to be countries coming together to achieve something like space travel. It's like, now it's like individuals, billionaires, like. Yeah. Yeah, let's get that done. That's what I want to do. Well, the only thing is it used to be countries competing to get into space. where it's corporations.

Yeah, megacobbs competing to pollute the earth as much as possible and find an escape route for the 1%. Oh my God. He looks like Kevin Spacey. But he does a bit in that one. Yeah. Yeah.

Well. Cowboy Bezos, eating iguana. What do you think the chances are that, um, like, you know the plot of Elysium? That's actually what they're doing. Really, really high. I think that is the only possible

No, but you can't be the elite If there is no one underneath you No, but people would still live on earth Oh, it would just be a hellscape Right They were like everyone on earth The only jobs would be the shit The pure crap

And if you're lucky You get to go to space And like work in a restaurant For the elite If you're like the biggest boot liquor The biggest like pure breed boot liquor Well, to be honest, we won't be alive to witness it Yeah, yeah

So sorry we kids today That's your job In other news We have to throw this out here And I know you haven't seen it James But the new space jam I show Jim a few clips I just want Jim to give his thoughts

On what he thought from what he saw because I had watched it that day and I was like I was like losing my mind so like when Jim came over my evening to use the gym or whatever

and I was like after I have to show you some of this just so like someone else in my immediate vicinity has seen this of course the Fury Road bit you know you got showed you all the best bits yeah the

because of the way I saw you said I've pretty much seen the whole film Yeah from what I've seen Even though I was like fast forwarding it to like the worst bits or whatever It just seems to be a string of IPs Yeah adverts for things that are going to be on HBO Max in the next year or two Yeah I think it's uh I think it proves that we are entering the

Or have entered the worst phase of in Hollywood history I think we actually have has there ever been shit this shit um yeah there has always been shit but it used to be more condensed into like January or like the early part of the year

but that wasn't like the big budget big name huge there's always been like kind of bad yeah I know what you mean like the level that it's sinking to in terms of like they're not about anything they're just about nostalgia

but like the first space jam it's not like a great movie or anything but it's suitable it's its own thing it's his own thing it's got character it's charming like it sums up the 90s really well you know it's got that soundtrack and even though it's stupid you still get the Looney Tunes fun but like

and the animation is better in that movie way way better yeah it it looks like something you'd see on TV. I just remembered. I said yeah, did Matt Pat. Sorry, not Matt Pat.

Who's the other one? How it should have ended? Yeah, how it should have ended. It was like how it should have ended video as a movie. It was like that level. Oh, fuck. Oh no, that sounds terrible. I don't actually think you could watch it, James. You know, you can't like bear cringe shit. Yeah, cringe shit like

that. There's the whole notorious PIG rap battle towards the end. gym like that bit that bit was quite good to be fair yeah yeah I don't know man it's sad

it's pathetic it's two hours long as well yeah that's another thing that is a horrible trend from current Hollywood the bloat yeah why can't baby movies just be

well there used to be an incentive for movies to be short so they could play them more in a day now I guess it's just on streaming so they can be like 58 hours long. Yeah, but still, like... Still more expensive, though, to make a longer movie.

Yeah, and people are just going to get bored. If anybody goes to see this at the cinema and doesn't walk out, I will be extremely surprised. But then you see on Twitter people, like, defending it, like, oh, people forget, like, the original was, like, just dumb fun as well, and it's like the same thing now. Nah, it's different. It's so different, man.

I will say, though, it has done. Don Cheadle in it. Doing just an awesome one. He does an awesome one. He's got his little thing. His little dibby? Yeah, his little dibby does float around. Terrible dibby.

Why did they invent a new dibby when they literally had the fucking loony tunes in the movie? Half of them are dibies already. Yeah, and then you reach a point in the film where they get CGified. They CG the Looney Tunes. And they look awful. They're the cheapest looking. CG 3D models I've ever seen Yeah, and they even say like

We're being upgraded Wow, we're expensive It's upgraded time, yeah, the literal line Shitting all over the original Yeah, Paisley Bad girl You silly sausage A lot of WB movies

What Warner Bros are Are WB the worst? The problem is They have well if they didn't have Nolan in DC they'd kind of have nothing but that's sort of enough

but they're awful in film they're awful in video games they're awful in TV they're just a shit company speaking of shit companies there's like a dead space trailer yeah which just dropped out of nowhere

they're like remaking it I guess in frostbite it won't be The Frostbite logo was down there, yeah. And I read the description, it said it's Frostbite. Isn't Frostbite like an old engine? It's been replaced by an entirely new engine. Every battlefield game is made in Frostbite. They're constant, dice are constantly in radio.

Well, they had that whole initiative where Ye wanted all of their games made on Frostbite. Awful idea. Yeah, but they did that when Need for Speed the One came out. Yeah, and like Mass Effect Andromeda and stuff. just an awful awful thing to do to your devs so they're basically doing the resident evil two thing yeah which i'm gonna say i have hope in because with the way they're because of west and evil all because of wesden evil there's such like an interest in this kind of very gritty kind of horror game like resident evil eight seven and i think the dead space setting is more interesting than

any other horror game and I think if they do it right it's going to be really fucking good they just need to it needs to not be an action game it shouldn't be like any other dead space it needs to be proper what you mean it like we already know what the game is

it's like a remake of the first one right yeah but they need to make it more of a survival game where it's actually supposed to be more tense because Dead Space one's an action game they kind of all are yeah so they need to make it not that if they're going to remake it they need to make it more I agree with James

I think if they are going to remake it I mean which they are it should lean on the survival survival horror aspects so they're going to have to change the game completely then

well yeah what's the point of remaking yeah if you're not going to change it you know this is the thing I don't to begin with I don't think Dadspace needs a remake no it's not quite old enough it still looks good

I don't know if it will ever be old enough to warrant a remake it's too good of a game like you play that game now it feels great it still looks great yeah that's why i get this gut thing of like no don't redesign anything yeah especially with um how they treated visceral as well yeah are you kidding me you you have this dev team that is incredible they make dead space one and just have this huge IP that everyone that's a fan of horror and even people that aren't

they immediately know this IP because it's fucking dead space yeah and then you put them on well you make them make a shit dead space game being death space three and then then you make them make battlefield hard line and then you kill them yeah and then you remake their IP well it's it without them yeah

yeah it's disgusting if some of the team people who were like involved in the original dead space surely if if they were within the yay system and it was like oh we got because they would have talked about it was two years ago surely some of those people would have moved over to the dead space development

that visceral team would have been long gone no but they're still in the industry they're not changing industry they're still in gaming yeah they might not necessarily like once a project like that ends they're like fucking gone

like they'll be sucked into other teams in EA or quit or yeah that's what I mean if they've been sucked into other teams in EA like I know you've got to admit with companies if they if they are going to make these new like games

they do take team members from where their experiences if they're going to make a new year, Dead Space. Yeah, but you actually believe anyone from that era. Yeah, possibly. It was, like, important to Jazz Space 1. I don't know, but you would assume that, because companies want to make money,

it's easier to bring in someone who knows the whole concept than it is to bring in completely fresh blood. These dev teams are so huge now, like the... Oh, yeah, no, I understand. The impact of the people that would have stuck around... Well, I assumed they were just going to do a, like, legendary edition thing. for the trilogy.

Yeah, yeah. No, because that's another thing. That Space One looks great. Yeah, just 4K60 or 120. I disagree. Yeah, upgrade the texture quality and shit. And it's, there are no problems with how that game looks other than, like, the humans. But just update their character models.

Like, animation's still great. Yeah. Lighting is still great. If, if, let's say it comes out on, it sort of very, it leans head. heavy on the survival and the, you know, the atmosphere and being like a proper down-to-earth like game like Resident Evil 7 or something. But I'd say that's instantly better than Dead Space. No, what about if it's an exact remake, but just the physics engine, because Dead Space is so

built around the physics of the stasis and the picking shit up and stuff, if it just has like an insane level of added fidelity and added lighting and particle effects and everything, I'd prefer it being a survival game. Because if I wanted... Why do we make the game if you're going to make it the same? I wouldn't even play it if it was the same. But if they make it more heavy on survival, it will be better than the original Dead Space, by far.

Because that whole setting is so fucking creepy. And you can do so much with that with... With whole games now. Yeah, I don't know. It makes me feel weird, though, that. I don't know if I agree. I think it does need changing. not because the first one isn't adequate,

but because the first one is too adequate. If you want what Dead Space One gave you, play Dead Space One, yeah. Because it's still a great game. Every time I've played that game, I've had a great time. If, like, if they want to do a remake, they need to make me feel something else. They need to scare me more.

Yeah, I guess I was hoping more for, like, just a new Dead Space game. Yeah. Because I guess... But I mean, even then, what's the point? point, visceral's dead. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wait, yeah. But if you want a new Dead Space game, this is the new Dead Space game. But it's just like mimicking Hollywood now, just like remaking the shit we've already know and love. Have they confirmed it's an actual remake? Yeah, so, well, yeah, but from that trailer, it's... In the description, it says it's a, like, from the ground. But even from the trailer, you can see, like, Isaac looking at the classic blood-written

thing. Even if they are implying this a remake, if they haven't, a remake... said it's a remake it is a remake yeah there's like no doubt about it because maybe it isn't you know maybe they are just it is it is a remake yeah like it's straight up is the reason they made it is because resident evil two remake did so well so yeah but but that's the thing the resident two remake is not wesent evil two remake is resident evil two so if they do it that same way on what piece one mm-hmm there's a lot there's a lot way more room way yeah like they just couldn't do the shit than the they know it's just straight up

impossible stuff that i want from this dead space remake is like make the ship do have the whole ship designed like a resident evil thing so you're navigating like a map in the resident evil two way like you do the police station that i'd be down for do you i guess it just just comes down to do you trust them in their team to redesign that game? Who's even making it? I don't know what devs are on this, so, yeah, it's impossible to gauge, especially with how EA are. Yeah.

So between Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 2 remake there was, it was 1998 to 2018. So it's 20 years. How many fucking consoles is that in between? There's so many. But then you consider Dead Space 1 was 2008, so that is 13 years old. But the difference is the Resident Evil 2 remake, I think, is, or the Resident Evil 2 original is too far gone. I could never go back and play that game just because of how... Time controls, fixed camera angles.

Yeah, yeah, it's too old. It's the same reason I've never attempted to go back and play Malga Solib 1. The shit, I can play stuff that just feels better. That's a fact. I think we're slightly biased. one will never be that way. I think we're biased because we lived in an era where, you know, we lived through the X, the XR 360 era.

And while it's still 13 years ago, that's an obscene amount of time in development. Look at Dead Space 1 and then look at fucking where they're due. Completely different experiences. I'm not talking about the way it looks, though, the way it feels. It's like Halo 1, I think feels great. Death Space 1 feels great. yeah but there'll still be improvements in the way it feels so if i don't know if it's even

possible so if they do that's why yeah that's why the only thing that makes sense is just graphical fidelity but also leaning leaning on the survival part i think you can have way more interesting thoughtful encounters than just like if i have a problem with death space one it's it's reliance on like locking down a room and just throwing enemies at you we've got it's better to assume given the current climate of survival games

they're going to do it Resident Evil 2 style they're going to remake it completely differently it's not going to be a slap we could say that because it's EA they're just going to do

like the legacy edition just slap some fucking filters on it yeah they're not but I think given the climate I think they're more likely to ground up completely rebuild it

is a different game and I think that would be incredible and I'm going to have hope in that going to believe that that's what they will do well that's the thing because the Resident Evil 2 remake stayed in like the same genre apart from the

camera angles you know the Resident Evil 2 was always survival horror yeah whereas Dead Space was like action survival horror and it's not that much of difference of moving the action

part really I think they should but I they will. I think the genre for those type of games isn't here anymore. Action games like that aren't as huge.

I disagree. No, I don't. No, because the reason Dead Space died is because they just turned it into something else. They turned it into an action game? Like, just an action game.

And that, like, that fucking failed. Why did it fail? Because nobody wants those games. Well, because they infated the budget. Red Dead 2 isn't an action game. Last of Us is an action game. What really big action games are

like that now. It's not a genre that people play. Like what? Action games, like Dead Space 3. Action games like that. No, but Dead Space 3 was a flop. Dead Space 3 was chasing the trend at the time and it failed because it stopped appealing to its own demographic that it already had. The same thing.

EA was so bad in their era they fucked the Dead Space and Mass Effect trilogy basically at the same time in similar ways where they just forced it to go down an action like blockbuster path where it's like cod, excitement, fucking explosions all the time and turret sections. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying, that's

not the thing. So why would EA now make the choice to remake Dead Space as an action game, when it's not the thing? The thing is survival. No, the thing is remaking like games. But changing them. Yeah, but like, if I don't want that game, I don't know if I want what you're describing.

And I'm going to question why? The Dead Space whole thing with Dead Space is so good. Why wouldn't you want to really like, gritty kind of experience with that setting. Because it already exists. As? There's Space One. No, because that's an action game.

I'm not talking about an action. It's not, though, fully. No, it's a hybrid. It's a hybrid game, but... So you don't... It's more like, um, like, R.E.4, where it's like... Yeah. Action horror. That's what it was chasing more, right? Yeah, yeah, it was totally inspired by Reson Evil.

Yeah. It's like a tonal thing. It's like a difficult thing to balance. but I just don't, I just don't trust them, I guess. I don't really trust any of these developers unless they've, like, earned it. I don't think, realistically, you should never trust a developer ever until you've got the game. No, no, like, the guys who develop, like, inside, like, three people or whatever. Yeah, but that's different. That's different.

It's not comparable when you talk about indie teams to, you know, these big teams with big developers. But, like, you'll get more excited for the next respourn project than you would over the next, like, Ubisoft, Assassin's Creep project. I'm digging myself a hole in me and I do. Yeah, I don't know. But then... I guess it is just the whole murdering visceral and everyone just being like, what are you doing? Why are you doing that?

Why are you just like murdering your talent in the same of the bio? It's what EA is known for. Yeah. It's what they've always done. They just, they just milk shit dry and then stick them on like something they don't want to do and are not good at and then kill them. do we do we actually know who is making it like at all how are they

how are they going to monetize it to you um I think I think as well as uh Resident Evil 2 they were inspired by fallen order

mm-hmm single player games single player games can make money but it is and yeah but that which to me makes it more like

how how like expansive are they going to get and ambitious with this new designer are they going to get when it is like well actually if we sort of make these shorter

10 to 12 hour single player things like you can shit them out more and the blueprint's already there the design is already there you can just make it look better and rumored the thing is I'd be more likely to buy a 10 to 12 hour

single player than another one their multi-blake. No, I agree too, but I'm just like... Yeah, the second you see, like, through the, the art and just see the, uh, the algorithm. Mm-hmm. You see, like, the trends they're chasing and what they're designing shit off of... That's when I check out, and it just bores me. I don't want to see the same shit done in everything I ingest.

Um, so I'm, I'm... The studio I'm making it is... motive the the art director for the game is the art director of Dead Space 2 um they're just saying about how all of them

instantly took the positions because they were working on dead space um but obviously with them being previous experience with Dead Space it gives you a bit more of a okay that's it seems to be it's the people who did the battlefront two single player that's what they did I knew it rang a bell

no but it's not the same team yeah so that it like there's this horrible thing and I think people have with gaming it's just like if X studios doing it it's instantly shit

studios don't mean anything it's actually the heads of the art directors the game directors they're the people who lead the project the team is what's important yeah yeah so like the because they've worked on fucking battlefront too I don't think it means anything

I mean the worry there is that is a studio track record Frostbite And that's like their whole experience That's not a good look To me Yeah I'm like a huge Dead Space fan

I should feel my hype No I feel like it's gonna be better now That the same person's involved Boy, that's just an art director Yeah but the art direction Dead Space too Like that's a whole thing Direction's good

But that's not affecting game No but the atmosphere of those games is why they are those games. That's one of the biggest things about Desperes. Yeah, but also how well designed they are. Like, the whole thing, this is something actually. The way they use,

I don't know what, like, the fancy term is for it, but like all the menus and everything, it's like in the game. Oh, like the user interface, the HUD. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, Despace 2 did what God of War did, like way before God of War was a thing.

even to a bigger extent where while you're using menus it's still like one-in- Oh right, yeah, yeah. Which I think is awesome, but like I lost my train of thought. But what, it's just, yeah, it's that again. But it's prettier.

Yeah, I mean... I think this is going to be one where we have to, we're going to have to follow it and see what... Like, when they've released gameplay, I think we'll be able to know what they're going on for. I don't think we'll... We'll know if it'll be any good even then. No, but, no, but if we see game playing, it's like, oh, this obviously is an action,

then we can be like, okay, we know what they're going for. But if it looks the same as Dead Space, we're like, okay, fuck it, forget it, it's shit. You're saying if it looks like Dead Space, forget it, it's shit. But I want it to look like Dead Space. No, but if they're remaking the game like Dead Space One, then just play the first one. You both have said this. Why play the We make when you can just play the first one? Because the first one has an age-ball it.

We've both argued this for a half hour. This is the thing. We already know that Death Space One is. isn't shit. Yeah. We don't know if Dead Space 1 remake isn't shit. You were saying the same

about the Resident Evil 4 remake, literally today as well, saying that you don't lose the original. If they remake Dead Space 1 the same as Dead Space 1, you still have the original. But if we see that they're not remaking it the same,

it's like, oh, this is actually interesting. They're trying something new. Like, I'll have no interest if they're making it the same as Desperse 1. They're doing new things of a new direction. I listen to an extent. That sounds crazy to me. If it, like...

Yeah, I don't... I guess... Because this has been a debate with RE4 too. Yeah. It's like... No, we've said the exact same thing about RE4. Like, why would you remake this? Everyone's saying the same thing.

Why we make this game... But that wasn't a discussion for R2. The thing with RE4... No, RE4, you just said. Yeah, no, but I'm saying, in contrast with the R2 remake, that's not as much of... Yeah, exactly. It made sense.

I think. with RE4 what they should do is put it in a new engine and then just try and make it feel exactly the same so you're saying just remake that game controls we don't want to change

so what you're saying is maybe I mean that's the thing to me I think I I've not played RE4 but I think I would prefer RE2

over it the remake I guess it's just like what is their design intent and like what are their goals I don't know yeah do you do you not think though

Resident Evil 4 made the same as Resident Evil 2 and 3 would not be really fucking good the same way as R2 yeah yeah like that that same type of game with the whole setting would be so fucking good but what do you what do you mean by that

because RE 4 3 2 remake copies the design of Ari 2 original it's like reimagining it in a third person more action I guess design I think it's difficult to say about

remaking 4 because of the you had to remake 2 because of the fixed cameras so trying to think of remaking 4 is like well then it becomes more more tricky murky territory because you can like fuck the design way more yeah well yeah if they're if they're changing a bunch of shit i don't know if this team has the chops to make a good ass dead space game no that's the thing when we compare like the weston evil to like we're

basing this all on wesden evil like the resident evil remates because they've done it so well they fucking perfected it's what they were directly inspired by to make this yeah and it's like i i i trust like Japanese developers more than American developers because there's passion and pride there there's money they're like you're going to get different results so I just yeah I find it's so hard

to like compare them and I probably shouldn't but it's like I want to have faith in a Dead Space game because that's like one of the that's the only horror survival type game I've ever finished or played it's like the one that I have like passionate Is that not because it's more actiony though no I quit

those games so many times because the Invincible Nekromo scared the fucking shit out of me Yeah, but dude, if you hate that bit, that's like R-E design to a tier. They love that kind of stuff. That's why I don't play Resident Evil games. But if they did what you want, then if you hate, I wouldn't play it.

You don't want to play. And it would be good for, like, streamers and shit. But no, but the thing is, I like watching it. But, I mean, I don't want it to be outlast, you know? No. It won't be outlast. It's hard to say. I think the Resident Evil 3 remake

was a lot worse. I mean, it is worse than two, but if they caught that balance of action horror with this Dead Space remake. Yeah, I guess I'm getting hung up on this idea of like abandoning the action side of it where it's like, that's part of what's alluring about it. I'd want, just like in RE8, there's like a ton of like action in it. And there's still a horror thing. No, yeah, no, yeah.

I think I'm, I think, I will say, I think I've tried to explain my point. of you poorly because I'm not so confident with like talking about horror games and it's like I just think of the vibe I think of the vibe of seven and eight and I'm like yeah I always agree with a vibe but like that's the vibe from one but just I think I never felt one like the original dead space made you like you you're never thinking about oh where am I going to get this ammo you you're never struggling really for yeah no I think that's No, I don't think that should warp a... No, it should be like that on normal.

That's because that changes the way the game plays. Like we were watching Resident Evil 8 downstairs. But again, Resident Evil 8 on normal is too easy, right? Isn't that a complaint? When I played it, I played it on normal. It felt about right. I had a bit of a surplus. It was on the easier side, for sure.

But I don't know, there's... I've there's work around I think what I'm trying to say is the game should embrace the whole more by having it more like oh I've got to conserve ammo you've got to think about

you want to you think about your stasis and your ammo consumption because then you're more involved in the atmosphere I think that's what I'm trying to say I guess that's already just what Dead Space was to me managing ammo and shit

it wasn't like that for me because I played on normal and it's just like I had so much ammo and it's just like spam the machine gun at every enemy and what I mean is I just want it to be more like I don't want to play it and be like, I don't want to play it and just be like a normal game.

I want to be fucking shitting myself at one in the morning, like having a panic attack. That's just describing my experience with the Desperies games. But I think your experience, you, you fucked yourself there. Because you, you did the game on the hardest fucking difficulty where you kept your Xbox on for weeks.

That was for two though. Yeah, no, but you're, so you're not going to think about how the game is normally because your memories of the hard. difficulty, where you're having to play that way. So I think you don't remember... I played both of those games, shit done. I just think if you went back now and played it normal,

you'd notice that there is just more ammo, and it's not as like the present evils are now with ammo consumption and all that. That's basically... I guess I don't think it's as bad as you guys think in terms of that stuff. I don't know. I just want...

Because it's like the same thing with Bloodbourne. I don't want to fucking play it. But I love the atmosphere and I love the design. And I love the design of Dead Space. And I want that to be like even better. I want to make them to make it so incredible. Yeah, I want to feel like Isaac Clark. Yeah.

And I just have hope. I have a little bit of hope for the Dead Space we make. Even if I explained all of my points poorly. I hope you get what I mean. We'll see after these messages. It's me, Zeus, the god, my fully endorse the jarmedia merchandise available in the description below. You were quench rating it, boy. I love the music video.

Yeah, can you hold that? And then can you put it in your other hand and then can I grab your hand so you can balance it? It's weird, so sonic thing with him where it opens. Ah, thank you. Is that real? I took my first proper cold shower today. How'd it go? You've been saying about that yesterday.

I tried cold showers. No, I watched a tutorial on how to take a cold shower. Do you gradually decrease the temperature? So, the tutorial says you have your normal shower. And then... Oh, that's bullshit. That's shit. At the end, you step back. turn it down a bit

get it cool not cold cool just hit your feet then get it cold it's hitting your feet and then you breathe you breathe in

you breathe out just for a bit and then you like walk into it up to your knees and then you just go in I'm saying straight up cold cold water like that cold like jumping into yeah like getting into an ice bath or something

and you just like have to step in you're that's I'm just saying that's a fucking pussy-ass way to do it that's such a baby away does it work? Do it feel good? No it feels great it does feel great it was fucking incredible what happens it's good for your body

it's really fucking good for you the first time you ever felt a caffeine rush I had a really good one the other day it's like that like you have to push past a certain point where it's just horrible it's like you can barely breathe your body is just and like you can't control your diaphragm and shit um yeah you sort of gradually get used to it and like the tutorial says

like when you first start doing it just do it 15 seconds and turn the tap off get out like you're done and you can like build up to three minutes and shit but what does it like do scientific um it's good for your muscles really good really good for you really it's good for like everything it's just good for you to go from really hot to cold no to not like really hot we know so cold to go from hot to cold to just have a cold shower is really good for you something i noticed is that when you're drying yourself there's like no sweat on your body so like you just wipe the towel and it's dry

you know your body isn't sweating right there's no look yeah and shit see you you dry your armpits and it's just like dry. But I guess the reason it's good for muscles is because instead of your body trying to cool you down when you're in a hot shower, your body's trying to warm you up. Putting blood through everywhere. Oh, okay.

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. That's my theory. Maybe I'll give it a try. No, it is tough. It's, it's, there's like a mental barrier you have to push through because it's like just so... This is a week to do it, though.

Yeah. He wants to intro the question. It's when you started using soap during the cold period as well. Because I went, I, because it was like two years ago, I was just like, I just read this SAS guy and it was just like a cold showers. So I was just like, okay, got in the shower, instantly just turned it straight on max cold and it was like, then just ran out of the shower because it was so fucking horrible. But then you not have the shower first with the like soap and stuff and then just cold water at the end. So you don't have to.

That's, yeah, that's what I did. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I had to clean myself with the ice cold water. to it's terrible but it does feel great you feel you get out of the shower and you're you're so refreshed you feel like you could just go

fucking want you feel like truly cleansed yeah as opposed to I don't know especially in this heat wave we've heard but I it's nice because when you when you like wash yourself with warm water you get out of the shower and it's cold and you're like fuck you wrap yourself up but when it's a cold shower you get out and it's just like yeah it's warmer out the shower

than it yeah because I knew that was a life hack already when it's really cold in winter and you have a hot shower before getting out if you make it more tepid adjust yourself to that heat then get out

then you're not shocked by the cold as much yeah yeah yeah that's about good afternoon morning and welcome to the second half of the show where we answer questions

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Just like Skelly Dude 11 Who says Hello I wanted to ask you a question About the JAR Media classics Alongside the Curry episode In the normal episode Which episode do you believe

Belong in the JAR Hall of Fame And this is what I was referencing Earlier Leg 27 said It may be a bit early to say for sure, but I think the chaos episode has the potential to be regarded as a modern classic of JAR. Also, the episode

where Alex spends half of the cast trying to call a sex line is up there. I don't know that. Okay, I'm just going to say the question that what other episodes belong there, I don't think any of us fucking remember any episode. No, there's one that comes to

mind. Uh, the one where I'm like lying face down. Yeah, I think that's the whole episode. I think that is I just remember how tedious it was to edit. It was worth it, though. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, I don't regret that at all.

What about the elephant in the room? Yeah, that's a good one. No, no, because the thing that make all of the, like, legendary episodes, legendos, not the gimmick and the funny, funny, it's what we talk about, the normal episode. No, that's what is good about the one. almost like lying on the floor because it was like a normal episode just had a normal conversation it wasn't the normal episode that was a different episode it was like a normal episode but i just

think so having it no but the normal episode it was a gimmick yeah but that was a gimmick in how we spoke on what we spoke about not having a stupid elephant it wasn't a gimmick for me i was just trying to be normal when have you heard any of the normal episode in recent history whatsoever yeah really i haven't listened to it since we did it i've never really listened to it it's all the kowie one I've listened to it I said I a few episodes ago

I'd listen to it I listened to like half of it again I can't get enough of it there's so many the first half or the second half I sort of jumped through the majority

well half of the episode overall yeah yeah um yeah I can't say because the normal episode is the best episode

I'm sorry I don't Like, I, I think we ruin the legacy of those episodes by sticking in an episode that's not as legendary. The, who's left in the floor? The Curry episode isn't legendary. Yeah, not in my mind. It's just, fuck that. It's just, oh, but I think that's what makes it, it's so fucking bad that that's why it's legendary, because we hit what fucking bottom.

It's nice to have a reference point, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like, just straight out worst episode. Like, if they're all on IMDB, it would have, like, the lowest rating, like. It's the two extremes. The peak and the walk bottom. The Curry episode and the normal episode.

And how can we feel that the between? I don't think anything is worthy of it. So all three of us agree that the curry episode is trash and the normal episode is good. Has there ever been consensus that the curry episode has been good? No, but this is the thing. It's like a debate. It's a debate in the jar. No, it is.

It's the normal versus curry. I discovered today that there is a whole curry episode. Reddit. Yeah. A whole curry episode Reddit is... I know they are fucking meming. I don't believe

that any jar fans actually had any real enjoyment from the Curry episode. They're a fragment of our cult that we need to snuff out. Hmm.

Because there's a danger of them splitting off into their own fucked up cult. Yeah, yeah. Like an even more dangerous version. But like

the people who appreciate the normal episode I think I think it's like a fight between like new gen and old gen. Oh, the different waves of jar. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like...

Old wave, flat era, fight in the... What era is the normal episode from? Would you describe it as? That was the first... That was the first era of... I don't know. We can't talk about sets on eras. It's like the first era of the first era of the...

room up there I don't think it was because we had the sofa in place I think oh the first era of that era was the four chairs then the sofa and then it became the fucked set up by the wall

yeah that was just the room era this is the jar set era that was the room era the room the room the room the room era doesn't really up narrow it for us but what do you mean it doesn't the room era where we've all

always done it in a room. No, but this is the jar set. The flat was its own era. That wasn't an era of itself. The womb. Should we do a woods episode in the woods? A real woods episode? Yeah. We've talked about it. The king's arms. Yeah, yeah. We talked about... We used to go to the top of that creepy tower. I was saying to Jim yesterday... That would be an awesome episode. That'd be scary as fuck.

That tower is a death sentence. Yeah, true actually. Why? Why is it death sentence? It's just scary. It's like a... The stairs are dog yourself. It's like a four-story tower with no railing on the stairs. The stairs are just like stones just like sticking out. Yeah, I got like two stories up and I couldn't go any further. Yeah, we're not doing that at night.

Because one of us should be at the top and then the silence and our body just falls off because something pushed us and we're dead. No, but I said this to you yesterday that we need to do a King's Arms episode. We need to go through those woods at night. The scary episode. Yeah, no, I want to do it. Even though I'm the one who's going to cry and scream. No, we should do the, um, underground old,

World War II Tunnel episode Wait, what? Is that near the King's Arms as well? Yeah, just underneath all those hills. Why don't we just go to fucking Melcham and go to the nuclear fallout bunker under it? No, that's caution. There's like a proper nuclear earwear fucking...

We can do the Trowbridge episode as well where we get attacked by some roadmen. We're going to do a haunted episode this November, Halloween. Watch out. November isn't Halloween. Yeah, well, November. He's son of a bitch.

Have I spent this entire, my entire life in King, November was Halloween? Matt Hawkshaw. No, should we send it to a vote? If people want us to do a scary episode in the King's Arms and near the King's Arms. Well, I mean, there's logistics and shit to all that. Not really. We drive there. We park up with all this.

some little... No, you have... You take that. It's got a camera in. Like, the walk videos. What do you mean? It's got a camera in it. It is a camera.

Oh, fuck me. It's one of his days, what is that with your brain right now? It's got the mics in. Like, the walk video, it had the unbuilt mic. Do we use that?

The camera's got an inbuilt camera. I'm sorry. It's a fire day. I've had a tough week. I suppose it's not wrong. it does have been here well yeah I mean it's true it is just yeah

but yeah actually go on the Reddit there'll be a poll choose if you want us to traumatize me no do it on Twitter I'm not doing no reddit poll no I'm doing it on TikTok

yeah make a TikTok we'll all see it there do a TikTok poll Matt Hawshort has one for us Hey Eternals do you still play Red Dead online and is it still as bad as they say even after a year since the naturalist

update there's still nothing to buy with all the money you can earn besides red dead not printing money like gta online which just received another major content update why do you think rockstar keeps neglecting a game with such huge potential because it's not gta yeah this is honestly something i'd like to go maybe on the the next like update to them to red dead online yeah because this one doesn't seem substantive enough to even yeah it seems like the kind of stuff they're probably should have added months ago I don't know how much COVID fucked rock star

yeah clearly their plan wasn't as concrete though for red dead from what I understand the guy that left had quite a cool idea for what you wanted red dead online to be but then he left what downhouser

yeah unless it was just a totally different guy but yeah my assumption is they had like big plans cool ideas for it, but it didn't start making the GTA bucks, so they pulled funding. No, it would make sense. Like, they had the whole street racer, like, um... Yeah, yeah, they just...

Which, I would say, really interesting, but it's, it's a deal, it's an expansion for GTA 5, so therefore I have no interest. Yeah, and, like, knowing there's, like, flying motorbikes and shit in that. It takes away the whole, you know, street racer fast and furious. Yeah, I'm not interested in being a street racer in a world where someone can just like fly over with a jet and shoot me yeah it's boring it is weird there's so much potential but if they're not invested it's just nothing's going to come of it and i'm not going to spend any time in it um they haven't even updated it for ps5 and i export series

yet like but they're still releasing like updates for it if you to play yeah i've been tempted to go on it on pc um um but like i i don't know anyone that plays redden online so I'm not going to like get into it by myself at the moment yeah they need a bit more a bit more just a bit more just more shit

I've done enough of the stuff that was already in the game like two years ago yeah yeah it's just old I don't want to do that shit by myself I'll do new shit by myself but nah not that old shit explosive kangaroo left one

have a big idea here you need to make a batch of mead it's a really simple process which I enjoy as an easy way to produce alcohol and I believe the jar meant should name a fermented beverage which they can drink on the cast question mark I love the idea of a special series

or episode of jar about making special jarmead connection to the old gods and the sacred entities bees which were mentioned at the previous cast please that's kind of a cool idea JAR mead, ear. Also, isn't our clan on, uh... Yes, Jarmid.

Yeah, our clan on, what's it called, Apex? Apex Legends, it's just Jarmid. Spell M-A-D. Because it's M-A-D, because of M-D-E-A-D. Yeah, but also mead is in the drink. Tren, yeah. So it would work, but it's like... Yeah, I...

The problem is it, where do we make it? Who has the facilities to make it? Um... Um, yeah. I want to make... I want to brew ale. It's just, I don't know. Because it's such a thing you, like, you mix all this shit and then leave it for ages.

If it comes out shit, it would just be like a real buzzkill. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. So I'd want to do it right. You know, that's why, because I was watching song on James May, because he's made his own gin. And they were doing this, like, stuff where this guy who, he's partnered with this guy who actually makes alcohol. And he knows, like, you've got, there's certain taste.

you put in because it complements other things you put in so you've got to kind of know like botanicals and shit to know yeah yeah add to have the taste and it's like you'd have to research that I don't think I I'm fucking clueless on it so I wouldn't really know I just know somewhere you know there would be beans in it there will be means in the jar me you can have a few different vats and just experiment with the ingredients yeah black beans kidney beans bait beans yeah What are baked beans? What kind of bean is a babe bean?

I'm baked. See, what would be your ideal mead? Because I would want to make one that's quite berry, and it's like a summer flavour. To be honest, I don't think I've ever drunk mead. I don't think mead is something you have like a berry version. But if you can't have a bay one... Mead is more like a strong ale, from what I understand.

So you have it more like a bay bean flavour? Like a strong, deep roasty flame. If you can't have berry flavor. The two flavors, bean and mead. Or bean and berries, sorry. No, but I think it's a great idea because... It's some fermenting honey with water, sometimes with various fruits, spices, grains or hops. Okay, so I assume it is sweeter than a nail.

Yeah. Some berries, boy. They're not berries. with honey grapes give us wine hops give us beer apples give us cider honey gives us monks meat

oh that's like an actual product they just advertise for them so what would work what would work of like a honey-based thing fucking yogurt a yogurt fucking flavor mead yogurt meat that fermentingly

no because no I mean yogurt flavors like a vanillae yogurt flavor of a bit of berry tinge with the honey the fuck are you talking about what am I me, berry I mean

just said that it's a honey thing so really when you get yogurt that shit you add a bit of honey so like they get hungry just bringing up yogurts

just confusing you just mean you like vanilla and like free get like a yogurt flavor but vanilla yogurt is like

has its own flavor inherently though as well let's put yogurt in our meat what the fuck is gonna come out of that.

Okay, I mean, like, vanilla. James should have his own vat, and you can just put whatever he feels like. No, because vanilla would work and berry. Yeah, vanilla would. But vanilla and berry, with like a bit of uniper. What are you giggling about? No, but the thing is, if we do it, we could make a certain one and... Oh, we can give it away.

We can send jarlings... Yeah, we can send all the fans alcohol through them. with a male yeah berry yogurt meat but what if like it's actually an amazing discovery and it's like the new drink

yeah what if we become like the next wine reynolds yogurt fucking mead we have the next we'll have a fucking Ryan Reynolds and corg like doing adverts for it before we know

yeah but become the like the the boogey like sought after alcohol in all these posh London restaurants are like oh your finest John Mead please yeah this shit makes you feel really unique you have one sip and you're like

vomit and you like start shaking but holy fuck the feeling it's like one second of absolute pure ecstasy followed by like days of misery uh duke walker left one

what are your nerds opinions on the upcoming avatar films will they be worth the wait will they even come out I know you were all minus James watch and talked about the first film for a cast review in 2016 but could be interesting

hearing your thoughts on the original film too uh my thoughts on my for weight. Yeah, I like it quite a bit. James, surely you watch you've seen Avatar. Yeah, but I couldn't give a flying fuck about any of the sequels. I agree. Who fucking cares? It's been like 20

fucking years. I don't know why. I have more faith than everyone else. Just in terms of, I'm intrigued by this idea of this movie being like set underwater and like the visuals you can get from

an underwater like crazy landscape Aquaman James Cameron doesn't really miss you know he's pretty on point and like after the first avatar he got like these three writers together and made them like all write together and shit

like with him in the writing room and he's plotted out like a whole thing and like if it wasn't him I don't think I care and I think I'll know based on just how like the trailer looks like what vibe he's going for and if it's going to be more ambitious or whatever but yeah i don't know it's never it's like never a film i think about or even want to like go and watch but it's also not one i really have strong negative feelings towards no definitely not i just

don't really it was such a like movie of that time i loved it at the time i mean like and to be honest i think the visual effects work in avatar is is better than most of the shit um still coming out today like the new like the fast and furious movies and shit like that you know like it's not even it's not even comparable um just the implementation of visual effects and just the way it's shot and the technology it's like yeah it's incredibly impressive um i quite like the main actor as well from avatar i don't know if he'd be coming that sam worthington yeah i don't know why he's such like a

he was just that guy of the time yeah but I like him maybe it's because of black ops because he's an Aussie yeah that too right he's mason from black ops did you not know that

no I did I did can we talk about how black ops is fucking incredible so just 236 episodes we've already done about that Oh, for fuck sake James got swamp crotch again

He's got swamped fucking Oh yeah, Augie's done a little fart one Whoa Oof, there's even a fan going too and it's still like Jesus Christ No, it's too late, it's no point now It's already in the ether And that's going to make him release more

It is the ether Yeah now he's just squirted out an extra Fucking half a gallon That was bad I had to drive James for like 40 minutes two ways so

like an hour and a half pretty much because we stopped to Starbucks yeah we stopped at Starbucks got fucking fucked over big time my car doesn't have air conditioning it's also got a broken window

I I have never experienced swamp crotch to the extent that I experienced swamp crotch my balls were swimming what time in the day were you driving uh free

The peak, it was... Three and that 30 degree. Yeah, peak heat is like between three and four. Mm-hmm. Because it's not till like eight, nine that it starts getting cool down. So, yeah, my balls were swimming in a swamp. No, but here's the thing. I was obviously in the car with you for the first, the first half of the journey.

My, my crotch was fine. I've never... You've talked about a swamp quatch before. but I've never actually experienced it That is bullshit I don't know what you What that actually feels like You get swamped crouched don't you

Yeah of course And it's It's even worse when you're driving Because your legs are sort of Restrained to a certain angle I've never Never experienced it

I'm always quite cool down there What about your ass? It's my back That's where I get sweaty it's my back what about your ass there you didn't answer my ass is fine

you've never had a slippery pair of cheeks a marginally slippery yeah I was double-cheeked up yeah I was double-cheeked up on a Thursday afternoon helping James drive to Starbucks

Mazza 808 has one a while ago I remember Jard talking about Spider-Man Mars Morales before it was released I was wondering since it's been out for a while now have any of you played it and do you have any intentions of playing it or not? Isn't it on a PS5?

It's on PS4 as well, but it's not 60s, so... Yeah, I'll play it when you buy me a PS5. Yeah, I'll play it when you buy a PS5. I'll play... When Sony makes it so you can buy a PS5. Yeah. No, you can just go on eBay and buy one for about 1,500 pounds. The Devil Lahans says,

how old were Alex and Jamie when they first watched trains, And has James ever seen it? Also, what does Jamie think of T2 now? Time has passed since its release. I like T2. Yeah, I liked it more when I rewatched it the other day. Yeah. It was pretty young when I first saw the...

Yeah, I was very young. Because loads of it went over my head. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I must have been like 13. Mm-hmm. Maybe. that's one of the greats to me

that movie I can watch at any point yeah on Lesserboxed it's in my top four yeah it's in my top four films of all time yeah it's actually one of those films that does kind of piss me off to an extent because it's too good yeah yeah that like hot fuzz thing

it's like yeah how is it so well made every aspect of it is just perfect yeah yeah you ever seen it James nope never seen the sequel nope you never seen like the bit where he like puts his hand in the toilet

and the I think I've seen a bar fight scene maybe yeah yeah yeah that's about it yeah yeah that's it and I probably can't say I am gonna see it any time soon at least because you know movies and me at the yeah

Raisin the Mall says Hi Jail Lad's been beginning to ask since the new set was revealed What's with the picture of Berg on the wall? Legeracers 2 was my first ever video game, so my attention was immediately drawn to his picture. Is there any deeper significance to his place in the set, or is he just there because he's an inherently funny character? I kind of answered you a question in the question, my friend.

No, there is more to it. Berg, Berg became legend because you'd always call me Berg. Well, no, it goes deeper than that. Our old cultist friend had an affinity for a term John? Yeah, John John had an affinity

for the term I'm Buttbergler That's right Which turned to Buttberg Which turned to Berg Which reminded us of Berg The ice berg No, but it's also been a thing

Because of Berg was on my mind Because of Legeraces too Yeah Yeah And being the hardest boss But then because you would always say Berg For the last few years

If it's your birthday I say happy Berg day In relation to Berg And it's just the angle of that picture and it's like a perfect image it's just so fucked up he's a cheater he's a son of a bitch that but-bug

yeah it's a really tough speaking of games that need remakes yeah yeah fucking get on it yeah Capcom Konami should be making some pack of Pachinko machines out of the bug one trait

fartis says hey James I have a question for Alex you have inspired me to get back into Lego. I've uncovered some old sets of mine, but most of it is lost to time. What are some good sets you would recommend? P.S. Will there ever be any more

uploads that I build everything channel? That one. That one I'm pointing it. Currently, the jar set has the sand crawler on it, which I'm quite a fan of. It's one of my favorite Star Wars vehicles. It has an awesome silhouette. As far as sets, I actually recommend.

they're really good with like adult-themed stuff now they're really leaning into that I went to the the fairly new Lego shop in Bristol the other day and they've got such a cool selection of stuff now they've got like loads of different plants you can buy like a bonsai tree they've got the whole ideas line of like a ship in a bottle there's like a typewriter you can build an elaborate piano set really cool shit like that you can get now there's even I saw and I was really tempted to buy it like a buildable world map that you put on the wall so they're getting really cool and creative with stuff like that that's really alluring to me and I like all the

NASA stuff as well mm-hmm but you just find a Lego shop and have a look just go online oh we need to address this from swastika eyes Hypus is just a quick one for the barrel, but I'm putting it at the end here. I'm an entomologist who has dedicated my life to improving the reputation of wasps. Just wanted to clarify a few things regarding the Hornets' discussion. The Hornets that are causing great concern are Vespula Voloutina, which are currently not established here in the UK, though they are in France and continental Europe,

and there have been a few records of them over here. They are smaller than our native Hornets, and they're predominantly black in color. Our native hornets, Vesper Cabro, can be bigger and a yellow and red. That must have been the one I saw. Hornets and wasps are important in an ecosystem because not only are they pollinators, they're not as efficient as their cousins, the bumblebee,

but they are excellent predators who can be very useful for keeping pests, insects, from destroying our crops. I suppose what I'm trying to say is, I'm not going to say that bit. Also, listening to James Town, trying to pronounce scientific names should become a regular feature on the cast. I guess that was in relation to the...

Truglodite's pan. What was the orangutang? Mungo. Pagamas. Yeah, yeah, that's right. That one. Um... Yeah.

I thought we were talking about the really big ones, because they're not like normal hornets. The really huge ones. Yeah. They're like multiple wasps. sort of Hornet comments. I'm glad someone's out there fighting the fight for the Hornet. Someone has to do. The wasps.

Wasps and hornets, sorry. Yeah. Fuck them, though. Yeah. Yeah, I can't say you really won me onto their side. Yeah, not at all. No, but why do you actually hate them? Have they stung you?

Because they look horrible. Yeah. Everything looks horrible when you're that small. Nah. Nah, because, like, a caterpillar's pretty cute. Mm-hmm. Ladybirds pretty funny.

Butterflies, dragonflies. Dragonfly's awesome. Dragonfly is huge. Very cool. Even though dragonflies... Scary. They've had the capacity to be scarier. Yeah, back in the prehistoric days when they were like six foot long.

I mean, I'm sure that's an exaggeration, but they were big as fuck. Yeah, they were huge. Yeah, that would be terrifying. Yeah, and they've got like laser precision in the way they can fly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, aviation just geniuses. And no, I'm not going to stop talking about scientific names for animals. Let's do a couple more here.

Vibrating Pablo says, How many non-jacked Kamal Nijianis would it take to defeat Jacked Kamail Nijiani? Two. We talk about human on human. Two humans can always normally beat one human. Because one, if one goes for the legs, the other one just doesn't. You can take anyone down.

Jacked as... Do you think like two of us could take on Arnie and his peak? No, because, no, we're talking about non-jack Camille to Jack Camille. That's different to me and you versus Arnie. Arnie was huge. Camille is not as huge. He's pretty huge, though. Yeah, but he's not Arny huge.

My guess would be two or three. I think too, no, I think too. Like, how much, how much of someone could you grab, then there's three of you trying to grab someone. There's not enough of Kumil to share between the commules. I feel like with the two arms, maybe... No, you don't...

Go for arms, you go for legs. No, but he's going to be fighting them as they're going for the legs, you know? Yeah, but it's hard to punch you down to the legs than it is to someone's grabbing your arm because you've got more strength to deck them in the face if they're grabbing your arm.

Yeah, but if you got a... Kumail by the legs... You can knock him over. You can pull him over. That's where you win. No, but he's a weaker Kumail. you might not be able to pull over a strong chemo no but the thing is if you just jump down

grab his legs and then the other one just rugby tackles instantly on the floor because he won't be immobile because of the legs but then they're all on the floor yeah exactly all it takes is an energetic strong camel to jump up he'll have like 10 times the energy 10 times the muscle man he can just spring up

he can spring smack one smack to the face of a weak cum male from a strong do that thing from like the asking games where Batman goes like went on the ground yeah yeah yeah Because a weak Camille is still quite strong Humans can be quite strong when they need to be

That is not void rage strong, you know Which which Cumel, current Cumel is roid rage strong Yeah, but he's void rage strong But he's not, he's not fighter He doesn't know to fight He knows he can fight though better than weak Cummel But they fight their fighting skills the same So when you're talking about taking them down

in a fight, it doesn't, yeah, you've got stronger muscles and you can hit harder, but you're still not technically good enough. No, but you can also withstand more. I don't think muscle density matters to being able to take his. Yeah, but he's not going to be like taking precision hits to the face. Beekumil. Either of them. Yeah, well, weikumail is more likely to take a strong precision hit to the face than strong Qomel. Strong Qumail, for all we know, has been using a punching bag. He might have been trained to throw a punch.

He might need to be trained to throw a punch. But he probably isn't, because he's an actor, so he's not going to learn combat sports. No, but like punching a punching bag, it doesn't require you to learn a combat sport, but you will be better at punching if you're trained how to punch a punch. But how many actors are learning to punch for punching bags? And why would you just spend your time punching a punching bag? It's good cardio. But then you could just do more

With that With what? Sparring with people Because that's also good cardio Yeah but they don't need to do that at all If that actors they don't need to even punch a punching bag They've got all these paid dieticians and PTs No but what I'm saying is we don't know that he hasn't been punching punching

We don't know that he has though What's that car in the background? It's definitely an N.A. It's probably 1.6 courses. It's a low capacity engine. Well, on that note, actually. No, I haven't finished my Camille numalji. I'm going to say three.

I'm going to say two. I'm going to say two, because you don't realize where's your balance, bro? Where's your balance? It's on your legs. Yeah, because he can keep track of two. As soon as that third guy gets behind him, that's it. What do you mean he keeps track of two?

No, that's a very good point. You're implying both weaker Camille's are coming at him head on. You're saying, you're saying, you're saying, I feel like I could keep track of, like, YouTube people, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're saying the third one, you're saying the third one is coming from behind. The second one, no, think also, think also, Kimel's going to be way more confident. The strong one, yeah, the strong Camel's going to be confident as fuck.

Weakumel, taken on a strong cummell, he's going to be intimidated. He's going to be scared. He's going to know. But there's multiple weaker camels. They're pack. So we're talking about, like, No, two people is not a bad. Yeah, pretty much.

But at the same time, if you know you've got the lesser hand, you've got the bad hand, you use tactics, you jump him. You don't just go into a bare fight, you use, you get an upper hand, you jump him out of nowhere. Because then you surprise him. But this is an arranged fight. Whenever I picture these stupid fight things, it's a blank, like, it's just like, yes, like an infinite empty field. No, like a fighting game. like G-mod, you know, when you, like, spawn it, and it's just fucking nothing. Yeah, flat grassland.

So it's just like, fight. I think, no advantage, no, like, no trees. You're for getting another thing. Who's faster? The weaker camills? No. He was not, he wasn't, like, in shape. Yeah.

His cardio would be better, his speed would be better, his strength would be better. He could just outrun them. Yeah, he could run away for a bit, tie them out, then just sprinting. smack one down. No, but that's where you tackle the legs because then he's insulin on the floor. No, but he's already ran for a bit and they're knackered. No, but as soon as you get him on the floor,

the other weaker Camus can start pounding him while he's on the floor with his feet. That would win. That would straight on win. But listen, so you're saying Kumail stood up, guy grabs his legs, other one tackles him. Now everyone is on the floor.

No, because that whole situation you just talked about is if Camille's, he's running, If you grab his legs right he's running, he's just going to fall. Well, if he's running, you're not catching up to him. He's strong QMUMEL. He's chasing you. The strong Camille is chasing the weakly commos. Strong Kumail wouldn't take on too unnecessarily.

He would run away for a moment. If they're charging him, he's going to run. No, he's chasing the weak Kamele's. Why would they be running? Because I just said they've got the speed and then you argue that they don't. said they're running away. They don't have the speed. No, they're not running away. That's the thing. If they don't have the speed, they start running, then once

Stronger Kumil starts charging them, that's when you attack. No, but if they're both running at that point, they need to stop, turn around and then charge him. No, because you get him close. So he's close enough to jump and gab you. That's when you fucking slide and get those legs. He tops it. No, at that point, at that point, you're already fucked. If you're running away, you're fucked. If you're running away from Strong Kumil, you've lost. I don't agree. Strong Kumau.

That's not how it works. James, how many, how many porny's would it take to take down strong Kumau? That's a fucking silly question. Why would you ask such a stupid question? He has a bloody blade.

One. Yeah. I think with how good of a fighter, porny is as displayed in international. It might be international. There's a lot of room there for him to kind of just annihilate. He has a lot of. a blade. He has a weapon.

Yeah. Yeah. And he's an alien, you know. He's probably got like a grenade launcher. Okay, then. Here's an actual question. Here's a genuine question that's actually grounded in realism for lunch. Which is something I know jar is just never a thing. So what about the rock and multiple Camille, peak camels? Three. You still think three?

Yeah. No. No, two ripped Camillees could take on the rock? No. dude we're talking about the whipped he's like a brick wall but

but the rock isn't that mobile and this is where my tactic comes in for the weak camels you get me you make no no but the difference is weak camels stand their chance strong cummiles

are mobile strong cummel he isn't swall he isn't swall he isn't swall to the point of like inability to move He looks like he's just athletic He looks like he could run 300 meters and like be good

So my tactic for taking out strong Camille Would work against the wok You take him down, you go the feet No but the rock ain't gonna chase The rock is most Yeah yeah he's at an advantage When he's not moving Defensive type

Yeah but if he holds up and just like Takes a few hits I think you can't No remember he was a wrestler That's what I'm saying you can't, you, you wouldn't, you can't fight him, you just can't. It might even take four strong cumults to take him down. No, I'm confident it would take more.

Because of what fucking body slam people? He's got the fucking muscles, he can just bang! You were saying like he's way bigger now than he's ever been. Yeah, he's way bigger than when he was a wrestler, right? Yes, but he still has that wrestler knowledge. But he's just got more strength to do it. Yeah, I don't think five could take him, could take the rock. Five could.

Five definitely. I disagree. I think you underestimate the Mox power. No, because then you have the rock in the middle and then five individuals just coming in closer from different angles. What can he do? You can't cover five points at the same time.

It's like Thanes fighting the Avengers. Yeah. In that situation, if the Rock pulls the elbow first, he could knock out one come in instantly. That means there's four. Because a proper strong elbow to the face could fuck you up. But the Rock isn't trained in like actual fighting.

Yeah, you can't actually fight. fight like a knops and short yeah but being a wrestler there is actually you actually got fucking hit people with wrestling you know you've actually got b you need to know how to do things and with the basics of converts do things dude no but yeah no wrestling is no more impressive than kumel i i completely disagree have you not seen john john seen the video stevo getting knocked the fuck out in a wrestling winning on friday night war he got fucked he got body slammed and blacked out and was like rivuling in pain

because they fucked him up. Well, you remember the Louis Louis threw episode where he was to the wrestlers and he's forced to exercise until he vomits. I'm not underestimating the Rock's wrestling experience.

You know what? Speaking of the Rock, there's this weird like trailer on YouTube for his like, do you see Black Adam movie? You've seen it? No. Yeah, it's like it's all like concept art shit but with his voiceover it's all this like art of him

in the black Adam like suit it's me black Adam I reckon that film is gonna suck yeah I think you're right big time do you know what else has also come out he's not gonna be any more fast and furious movies because he's feuding with Vin Diesel is that really you serious

yeah good he's not he's not being anymore so that So is Hobbs and Shaw, like, done, they're not doing one of those? Because that seemed like they really wanted a universe thing going on. Yeah. With your Ryan Reynolds and Kevin Hart. And Kevin Hart's kind of...

Has Ryan Reynolds ever been whipped? Yeah. You sure? He's always been, like, the pretty boy. He's ripped right now. No, but that's not... He's not Camille whipped. And Camille's nowhere...

No, Camille's swole. No, you just said he isn't swole. Well, no, he's not the rock swole, but he's swole. he's strong no he's whipped I'd call Kumil whipped Ryan Reynolds is not whipped

okay Ryan Reynolds is shredded no he's not shredded no he's not shredded he's just muscular he's quite he's just he's shredded I don't think

you've seen his herbs have you seen him in the change up no because being shredded is being the walk that's you seen the voices because when I think of muscles it's just like

whipped is the lowest shredded is even more than being the pock is no no no no no ripped is more than shredded no because being shredded no being shredded no this is just getting insane now really ripped and shredded no shredded what the fuck is a difference shredded you're just like lightly muscular but low body fat ripped is so then i just mean the same thing no they're different levels shredded when you because shredded it's like more aggressive you're fucking shredded no shredded you've been shredding like you've been shredding like

the weight. No. You've been shredding the fat off your body. You're shredding your muscles, making them huge. No, no, you're ripping your muscles. You're ripping them so they have to repair. Okay, take a piece of paper. If you rip it, would you imagine a rip? When you think shreds, you think an aggressive shred. Shredded and ripped are both the same thing, though. No, they're not. When you're shredding something and ripping something. They're not. You're missing all the nuances, Alex. Like, shredded is more, is more, as a more aggressive ripped. So someone being shredded is bigger than ripped. Because whipped's just like... Lacerated. Lacerated. That's the rock. No, he's not lacerated. What is the rock then? He's Swole.

He's built. Swole is more than built. We can agree on that. No, because when I think swall, I think swollen. That's what the rock's swollen. He's swollen. Swole. Swole.

Yeah, we can agree. Built. Built means like... No. Bill is... Bill is even less than whipped. built is not less no because some people are built just big

no if you guys you know like this world's strongest man yeah like they're built that's not built that is built what are they then

built is just when you are just quite built you're built to have muscles but being ripped is taking that bill who and you guys try and justify what these words mean is actual insanity

have you never heard of have you never ever come across the terminology of rich shredded of course I have but it's I think it's way broader than the way you're like zoning into like a degree where you're like no I could draw what someone who's ripped compared to someone who's shredded compared to someone who's fucking

okay no throw your hand in the ring bro yeah what's more ripped or shredded what's your definition ripped or shredded ripped or shredded rich runs that's just not true that's just not true they mean the same thing no because when

like my analogy with paper they're the same thing but they're different levels No, shredded. Shredder is you put it in a shredder. And it's like a lazy activity. No, because that's not shredding. A dog shreds apart a rabbit. Yeah, that's aggressive. Whipping apart a rabbit is not.

A dog ripped apart a rabbit is the same. No, because ripping apart a rabbit and shredding, it's aggression. That's where it is. Both are ripping and shredding and tearing and bamboozling. Torn. I've seen Gaius rip apart. You've seen Billy. You might have seen Billy.

doing it like shredding is like you're doing it with more energy which means it's more aggressive that's what shredding is your emotions right now this is not my emotions this is emotions there's no logic to any of this I don't think no okay no let's let's get some people up let's get some fucking I'm gonna search I'm going to Google search shredded okay and we're gonna see how huge the people are and they pop up get shredded do you don't know it's me by the big red shred because I think whipped is like you know that influencer body type

look that's like whipped shredded is like all are the same that you could just sub any of them out and it's the same thing no no you can't I think there's a there's an actual level to this like according to who according to what if you type in whipped you get the you get more the influencer type oh six pack you know pecks

but like what's a bodybuilder oh you could describe them as ripped or shredded no that's no that's fucking bullshit that that's bullshit I think when you're shredded you you are huge no if you're shredded you're like no no shredded is not like the influence of fuck boy body

ripped that's ripped ripped is ripped is cummel shredded is Thor. What's breaded then? Um, that's the big red X. Can we do this one from the gayest jar fan?

Yeah, let's do the gayest jar fans, uh, question. I just, you're, how do you meaners, and this is the last episode, the last question, by the way. Howdy Mingers, with this recent normal episode Renaissance going on, I decided to rewatch it, and one topic in particular interested me, while discussing social expectations you bring up drinking

and how it's generally considered abnormal not to drink in a social setting. Jim argued that there are situations such as being a designated driver or a former alcoholic where it's okay not to drink. But I'd argue that the choice not to drink even if you don't have a special reason should be normal. I'm 27 and I've never so much as tasted alcohol. The first time I hang out with new people, they find it weird and sometimes think I'm joking. I've been around enough people drinking to know it's not my type of thing or I want to do it. I can enjoy myself well enough at a party without alcohol or substances of any kind. Also don't have some tragic backstory where my parents were alcoholics or

something like that either. I'm just not interested. I think the expectation comes down to the people you hang with. Lad pack, you're expected to be vomiting on the side of the street at 1am. You know, I think that it's the behaviour of the group who are in with what that expectation is. If you go to a wedding, you're probably not expected to drink a lot of alcohol. No, but like, how does it actually affect you in any way if someone else decides that they don't want to drink. You know, that's what I mean. The lad pack, it would affect them because they're so fragile about that stuff, you know?

Like, I don't drink, and I know I don't barely ever drink. But I've been in the situation where people have been forcing drinks into my hand when I've been the designated driver, because they're that toxic. That's a lad pack. That's the expectation that you should involve in this, this behavior. It's not, it depends on the group, is what the social expectation is. like nowadays i think drinking is because is phasing out with the generations

i think yeah what do you reckon bro um it's baked in I think it's still pretty heavy here yeah definitely is uh I don't know that I think it's kind of an embarrassment thing

as well because if if everyone is drunk together then you're more comfortable because you all know you're being stupid because you're drunk. But if you say something wrong when you're drunk with a bunch of drunk people... It doesn't matter. No one's going to remember anyway. Yeah. But if there's like a... If you're the only drunk person

and like you stand out if... Yeah. And then if you're the only not drunk person is the same thing. Yeah, I suppose what level we're talking. Like if like your group like want to be distrable. destroyed at one night and you're like not a drinker you're probably just going to have shit night yeah yeah because i mean you're not going to get good conversation out of people yeah yeah because when you're sober and you're around really drunk people it's like yeah it can be yeah just incredibly annoying some people can be really annoying when they're drunk but it can be entertaining though as as the sober one yeah yeah yeah it definitely can but

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, just do what you want, you know. And peer pressuring is kind of lame. People do that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Who gives five shits about what people want to do, you know? Exactly.

Just be, uh... Be your homie. Be shredded, be ripped, be... So I want to wrap this bad boy up. Oh, I'm the kind of go You genuinely think ripped and shredded Do the same thing? Yeah, no, I can't get over this

It's fucking ridiculous They're completely different things No, they're not completely different things They are, ripped, shredded Then there's Bodybuilder Bodybuilder, you don't say like No, because, no, because it's the thing

This is how I normally do it. I don't say they're ripped or shred, I just say they're fucking huge huge well no but that's not ripped or shredded that no that's fucking huge that's that's that's so far beyond being shredded and ripped

that's like the highest level you're I'm telling you you're you're saying I'm telling you you just you just get out of it Alex you just don't understand boom boom shred

let us know what your opinion is on the shredded ripped debate the shreddies rip debate rip into a shreddy you do you you rip a fart

but you don't shred a foot yeah exactly because you can't aggressively fart yes you can you can when you're catastrophic when you're aggressively fart you get a whipped fart

right you can't get that aggression out of your butt so shredded doesn't work no no weak argument yeah very weak thank you Alex

thanks for taking my son no Alex doesn't know what he's talking about. He does he thinks they're the same thing. That's not an ally to have in this. That is more of a valid argument than you're. No, it's not. You aren't even saying your arguments. I would even argue Alex is more correct. You're just countering me by saying, no, that's not the case. You're not trying to back up your claim.

Because you just keep going off on these soapbox fucking bullshit. Not giving me a chance to talk. Talk, then. Talk then. Talk, then. Explain your points. You've been drinking too much yogurt meed, man. Yeah. Going straight to your head. Yeah, you've been ripping the...

How dare you? No, listen, when you're shredding... Oh no, this... That doesn't work. That doesn't make you fucking strength. When you're shredding, you're cutting shit out. When you're ripping, you're like...

Ripping it, you know? Yeah, to look like an influence of fuckboy. When you're being shredded, you're going to be huge. No. No. Yeah. No, shredded means cutting off. Ripping means...

No, but everyone cuts off. That's how they start. What are you talking about? The only people who don't is people who are built because then they get shredded really quickly. Because they've got the mad. No, people that are built. Like, Arnie's not built.

Arnie was built. Arnie and his point was not built. He was. He was huge. You're just digging your own grave. I don't even have to say anything. He was built, wasn't he, Alex? What the fuck does Bill even mean? He was swollen.

He was shredded. He was shredded. He was ripped. He was swall. He was built. Pulsating. He was huge. Quivering mass of protein.

Have you seen the, um, I saw this trailer for a movie that's coming out. That's produced by, um, Arnold Schwarzenegger and like a bunch of, you know, like sports types. Mm-mm. That's all. favor of vegetarian eating. Is that only a veggie? I guess so now. He, yeah, he said in the trailer for this film,

there's like debunking the myth of like, you can't be strong and healthy without eating animals. So I think that might be quite an interesting thing to watch. Well, apparently there's more science behind this than we're giving it credit. It's related to like your body. mass and your fat levels what is so? There's like a men's health

article that's a cut whip jacked or swall oh no but that doesn't involve shredded so fuck it off because like being cut is being lean right with muscle and the source is subjective too it's a stupid article from men's health

right yeah men's health is not the no I heard a cool quote from this trailer though um this guy was like Good bread. I was always asked, how am I as strong as an ox?

And I'd always say, you ever seen an ox eating meat? It's kind of gay, actually. Okay, so let's take Christiano and up. He's clearly ripped. He's not, like, massive, he's not muscle, he's ripped. He's just got a very, he's lean. He's shredded. No, he's ripped.

He's ripped. of all the people he's fucking whipped but like the Johnson the rock he's shredded he's not shredded what is he then

he's swole okay Kumangi is shredded whipped is like Ronaldo when you lean cumair muscle yeah so they're completely different body types Ronaldo whipped

cumil shredded he's mass he's muscular mass Ronaldo's not muscular mash Rinaldo's not shredded Rinaldo is whipped Have you actually seen a picture of him recently I saw a video of him eating bread I think They're being a red

I'm fucking eating bread Like that right there That is whipped He's quite he's still white lean but he's whipped He looks creepy He looks shredded No that's not shredded Because there's not muscle there

Like that, that's ripped Look, look, ripped That's not shredded Because there's not mass It's not mass That's fucking mass there You crazy cun Casket King

Is he ripped or shredded? Is Casket King? Is Casket King? That's when you run up with somebody And smack him with a piece of bread That's shredded Here's a few examples

That's shredded Because he's got more maths You just got breaded Fucking That's it Nah, nah This You think

I don't You don't You in bread I'm editing all of this out Grabbing you're bread Smack someone with it You tell them they've been breaded And you're doing it right

so get a camera posted as a video response and let's see if we can get this thing catch it on move over planking it's time for bread and as always I'm casket king my favorite ad subscribe

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John. He did. He made breaded too. What? Yo, what everybody cast in here with another video, and you just got bredded.