JAR Media Posdact - Zuck Gets META - JARCast Episode 250A

Episode Date: November 1, 2021

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Find us on Spotify and iTunes under: "Jar Media Posdact" Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 02:52 Housekeeping 19:45 Super Duper Sumos (Weird Kids Show) 28:02 Zuc Gets Meta 33:29 Mid Break Ramble 36:16 Halo Haters Campaign and Big Team Thoughts 49:43 PO Box Movies 58:18 The Eternals Kingo Is There 1:00:00 An Argument for Aquariums 1:03:35 By Crikey 1:10:23 Subnautica Scare 1:15:24 Marine Biologist Settles a Debate 1:16:42 Alex and Jamie's voice similarities

The truth is only what James gets away with her. You can't do the same trick twice. What? What does he mean? Don't why. Doesn't involve you. Good afternoon morning, evening on it, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to this episode of the JARMedia podcast. It's 250

Hey Hey I am back I'm back I'm I'm back Today we're joined by the usual The usual suspects

Mr I hate everything Incorporated And Jamie And I am James And I'm back from fighting the wars in influenza

I never know how James is going to intro it you never do it's always the way you began though with the what was that maybe we should just intro every episode like that now it's like a screw the intro

like a Rick Ross thing oh James don't like that but no we're back um it's been i haven't been here for the last few episodes it's a flu season yeah got flu really bad it was awful we're saying earlier it's like it's the worst flu ever yeah i've never experienced something that straight straight up painful it's like i spent days like unable to do a single thing it was just like my head was

like head concussion levels of pain and it's like it you get to the end of it and it's like oh i i can finally feel alive and then I got this horrible brain fog this weird dissociation for like over a week and it was miserable but we're back we're back and I'm here to bring a balance to the jar media podcast once again balance yeah like balance balance well we get too deep into the show let me shout out of the jail media patreon it makes the audio version possible and if you're a sandy tier above you can have your name read out at the beginning of each month in the first week as long as we remember no we actually we're pretty consistent with that we've never not remembered um yeah uh man we had a good one last episode it's just jim and i we had some interesting

topics come up um a couple of a couple of uh ones we need to re-address just to sort of clear up some of these conversations with the third party involved with the third party involved The objective third party is necessary. So let's do some housekeeping. Let's address some of the stuff from last week. Just keep it clean around here. We talked about the rock and his song. You've seen it, I assume.

Yeah, I've seen... It's about power. We stay hungry. We devour. It's become a huge meme. So that's the only way I've seen is the parody version. Yeah, yeah. But Jim and I were particularly hung up on one of the last words in his section where he

mentions the word manner and we were making all these like gamer jokes like oh the rock must be a gamer like the idiots who we are but a placeholder left the comment saying joe boys manna is a polynesian word for strength the rock is polynesian he isn't talking about anything relating to games lull boys man you know should have done your research Manor is better known as magic As gamer magic Yeah He must have known what he was doing

No I disagree No I think he's quite away from like mainstream games I think not everyone's going to know Yeah he's not Vin Diesel We've gotten confused maybe with Vin Diesel's affinity for Marner For kind of dorky things Yeah

So Sorry about that huge apologies massive apologies for that one if it was intentional it's the rock gains a bit of credit

if it wasn't then if what was intentional if it was intentionally a gamer reference yeah no we're being told it's just straight up not

and that it's linked to his Polynesian heritage I mean that's what do you have to say for yourself look when you're putting your your thoughts and opinions in front of an audience, you can't be accounted for.

No accountability. James, what do you think of whale noises? Straight up. See, while I was away and unable to do anything, I did watch the cast. so you did so you know about this conversation and I was reading comments about the whales whale noises of just I don't know how to feel about them really you're torn yeah so you have no emotional response when you hear that it's creepy yeah it's creepy and it's somber but at the same time it's like because there is a whale where his like frequency is on a level no other whaling

so he will never find any other whale because no other whale can hear him and that's so really depressing how come you're saying as if it's him as if it's like one whale

yes one whale oh you're saying there's one whale that has a frequency of whale noise I guess that other whales can't hear no he's a sad story so his calls for mates

will never be heard by anyone and that's like mates where are you that's a little bit and whenever I hear whale noises I just think of that like story and it's like depressing there were a surprising amount of

comments to do this whole whale thing I think we made the mistake we're talking about giant squids and whatnot and I mentioned like a type of whale that eats them or something but rubb five left the comment saying guys you're thinking of sperm whales the largest toothed whale humpbacks and blue whales are

baleen whales they filter small animals from the water to eat so humpbacks and blue whales don't go around eating giant squids that's more of a sperm whale hobby or not hobby what do you call if it's just how you survive sort of thing

just hobby no there was an interesting one here from son praising man who says as a student currently studying to be a seatologist your conversations about whales

really piqued my interest I'm sorry I've never read seatologist before or have heard that Is it S-E-A-T-O-Logist? Right? Sounds right? Yes.

Cetologist. Your conversations about whales really piqued my interest. So it's a no-brainer I would find whale sounds relaxing. Though did you guys have humpback sperm or orchards whales generally in mind while you're talking about them? I'd also definitely swim with orca whales first given the chance, despite them being the most dangerous. There's just something so fascinating about the apex predator of the sea also being generally. really friendly with humans. The apex predator of the land,

as there was only one case where a wild orca ever attacked anyone, and that incident only occurred because an orca was trying to grab a free diver bag of crawfish. I don't know. I honestly didn't put enough research into it to know that, like,

obviously all the whales have different sounds, different calls. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to hear a whale and be like, yeah, that's an orchid. Yeah. I would assume just like blue whale noises would be the ones we're thinking of. Yeah.

That's one that comes into my mind. They're the most mainstream whale, right? I don't know if I'd want to... Yeah, the mainstream whale. I don't know if I'd want to swim with whales, though. I won't. I wouldn't personally. But I'm like a renowned.

I can't swim. Doesn't like the ocean. Yeah. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to swim with a whale. Yeah, it's probably not a good idea to swim in general. And I don't. There you go. The one time I did, I'll drown.

So, you know. You drowned? Yeah, we've gone over this story so many times in America I drowned. That's why I don't like America, because, you know, I almost died. You died? Well, yeah, I was, I took in Woolworth. I drowned. You drank?

You inhaled water? Yeah, and drowned. No, but if you drowned, you wouldn't be here, right? Well, I got saved. You can drown. You got resuscitated? Yeah, I guess so. I can't remember. I'm just saying.

Let's do one more on this whale thing from Jack Diamond, and this might be one of the causes to why it's so freaky to me, this whole whale thing. Honestly, whale noises and seeing something come from the abyss is a huge reason I fear the sea. Those whale noises the dividers make in Dead Space One still give me chills. Also, question for you, Jow boys, on the topic of being titled a wizard, I don't know if we need to talk about this wizard thing again, but, yeah, I think using the whale sounds in, like, video games and for horror things is effective. It does have the, what did we kept calling them, Eldritch, like, Lovecraftian. No, it is very, very lovecraftian. I was watching a David Attenborough thingy with whales in it, and it's something about their eyes.

because you can tell this like there's something going on behind yeah it's those mammalian eyes mm-hmm there's intelligence there's intelligence and like thought there's something going on behind his eyes yeah yeah it's sort of indescribable yes is what I mean like being face-to-face like being face-to-face with that eye yeah that's what I mean I I don't think I could swim with it I'd happily like watch a whale from a boat Yeah, but swimming with the whale. I don't know. I don't want my head to, like, explode with information.

Yeah, it does make me think of, like, those Lovecraftian stories or, like, the music video to the... What the fuck is that song called? Die fantasy. Remember that? Where they, like, go in the swimming pool, and then it's, like, a whole, like, they see something their brain can't comprehend. So then their eyes go, like, p. I would imagine that kind of feeling if you're just... Yeah, it's something about the ocean.

Mm-hmm. you're like so dwarfed you're so overpowered by everything just out of your element yeah yeah um man there was actually so many comments

and it's so dense and there's so many topics I still want to talk about I'm gonna have to cut it off here with a fairly long one from Galaxy Elysian Hey Jha

software dev here to explain how fucking wrong you guys were about Instagram listening in so we mentioned about this I've got a counter to this I know it's anecdotal and it's about listening in. I was in a

Discord call. My phone was on the table. I said this his car is a fucking shed. I went on my phone and I started getting advertised sheds. No, because the whole thing is based around they've got, I've read

into this before where they're taking what we think they're doing they're doing so advanced, so far ahead of what we think. Like the things we think they're getting info from is like, so nothing compared to what they can get. So they're building

a complete persona of what you will be interested in the future. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. I'll read what this guy says. Trying to make this short, but basically Instagram, Google, Facebook, whatever, they don't use your microphone to listen in to conversations. They make their money by selling your data to ad

companies, we all know that by now. They don't sell you specifically, though. They sell groups of users who will then receive those ads. But how do those groups get made? Let's say a company wants to sell Madagascar shirts. Their company knows their audience is normally children. Parents of children, movie connoisseurs. The Madagascar company approaches Facebook, Instagram, Google, etc., and gives their target audience.

Big tech company then needs to find people who belong to these groups. There's lots of different ways, and it can get pretty creepy. For example, if you have a friend who loves getting Jerusalem fried chicken, they search it up on Google, follow their Facebook page, post pictures of it on their Instagram, etc., then they'd be in the group that JFC ads would target. If that friend comes to your house a lot, big tech company could pick up that their account keeps coming from your IP address so it starts serving you ads for JFC,

even if you never showed interest, not just done through IP addresses. If you message a lot on Facebook, Insta is another way it's done. All the big tech companies put you in interest groups that they've identified. Some of them are creepily accurate. Some are just insanely wrong. old Instagram would assume you're a fan of the Ironman fitness products if you like Marvel if you want to check the interest groups I'll add some links they're fun to look at

blah blah blah yeah big tech doesn't listen to you they track what you're doing on their services and place ads on the services to group your interests then they sell those to ad companies so what you're saying basically it's almost creepier it's almost like but it doesn't explain my commode story um there's no way so you just don't believe that they're not listening well i i why the fuck would i be advertised commodes what am i searching if it does go as deep as like IP addresses and so it's like everyone who's coming into the house every single person in the household all the things they've been searching they're basing what they can possibly so if one person has like

been looking for commodes on amazon walks in to to my house, connects to my IP address. Well, according to Galaxy here, yeah. So, no, the way, the best way to prove this is when you don't use a VPN on your phone when you're connected to the Wi-Fi and this house, do you? No. Have you ever been advertised anything about cars? When I'm at this house, I'm looking for car parts a lot of the time.

I'm looking at cars. Do you get anything car-related? The problem is I never look at Facebook. I never look at Instagram. I basically never look at anything that has ads on it. I watch a lot of YouTube, but I have YouTube pre-related. premium, so I never see ads. Oh, yeah, that's, that's why, then.

Because it might be possible that if you were to use Facebook, Instagram, you might get car stuff as an ad because of me. Because the way they do it. So the ads work via IP address or, I assume it's a combination of all sorts of different ways. Yeah, it's like a connection of when you're in the proximity of someone. And that they can, they can, they, they, they, it's like, but in a way, it's like they do it because it's, if you know I like car stuff, my birthday's coming up, you'll get an advertising.

car stuff that I would like this this is starting to make sense to me actually because I maybe somewhere I do remember seeing like car related stuff and cleaning products why is it give yeah and cleaning products and stuff like that yeah and it's like if because you know that person likes it so you're like that could be a good gift so you're giving the money you're making the business you're making everything there's there worthwhile that is almost creepier yeah because like if I read this comment here and on the same lines from uh pip ludocas in regards to the subject of your phone listening to you this is naturally true instead the truth is much scarier i listened to a news podcast a few years ago either from the new york

times or the guardian and i explain that algorithms have gotten so advanced that they can predict what you're going to be interested in when you think that your phone is listening on on you it's actually that you've been unknowingly dropped hints that the algorithm is picking up on and it's just advanced enough to know what you're interested in even without listening in on you which is like what one worse. It's like reducing us down into code. Yeah, these algorithms are outsmarting us.

People have created, like, we're heading straight into like an AI future. It is crazy, but I do think there's a certain amount to it. Like, why would I get advertised sheds? Out of the blue, when I've said shed to my friend, about a car.

Like that, there's no data there that they could possibly get that might relate me saying shed to me getting sheds. Anyone in your household? No. At work? No. No, my family... How'd you know? Like, at work, like, had searched up sheds, and if it is, like, IP...

Because it was soon after I said it. We're talking five minutes from saying shed to getting shed out of those. No, that's what the commode thing was like as well. It seems almost too convenient. Yeah, no, it, like, I know about this stuff, because I've read... I've read a really detailed thing about it before from this guy. works in it like that,

Johnling. It is obscene how it works, but it's like there's some situations where it's too perfect,

where it has to listen in to some certain extent. And I think with phones having Siri, you know,

Google, whatever Google's one is, they, I, this can be on the table far away, and I might say one word

and it's already popping up with a voice recognition. And I haven't said anything that could do that. But it's

picking up on that. I think that it's picking up on it, it's just not. being it's hard to say because I don't think

they'll ever acknowledge that they are listening in because that would be too much Oh yeah they'd never admit it if that were So it's like no matter what anyone says

that we'll never know or not know about if they're listening in because it's too controversial so it's like you've got to assume that they are I take their word for it

I believe the algorithm thing The algorithm thing is true though That's a hundred percent just fact Yeah But I think there's more Hmm I think it's possible that there's more Yeah

There's no doubt These tech companies are doing all sorts of bizarre things we Yeah it's wild Like back in the day It was like the only thing Like this was the government listening to you

Now it's just every company For like every product every social media every phone provider yeah the data collection aspect how valuable that data is

for companies it's like core for everything yeah it's mad it's terrifying yeah it's absolutely crazy it's just like you can't think about it you just have to accept it

and just live yeah and look at monkey videos on Instagram yeah I haven't been advertised monkey products yet unfortunately there's something seeing as we're talking about disturbing things

there's something disturbing I need to bring up I don't know if James would know about this but Jim should and it should trigger a memory that's I don't know, it might open some fucked up doors right okay

I don't know how well actually knows thanks to the jar Reddit they posted an image from a children's cartoon that I hadn't thought about since I was a child but upon being reminded I got flashbacks and then started thinking man some of the stuff like that was on TV

when we were kids was like quite like weird and sort of fetishy and bizarre oh no there's that yeah no no there's a lot of stuff it's like people's fetishes they're directly correlated to the cartoons

weird cartoons they were yeah yeah so let me see if this rings a bell for you Jim super duper sumos super duper sumos yeah they got butts

yeah what the fuck holy shit it's it's bad I rewatch like the intro and it's like these three like sumo characters and there's this real emphasis on their butts It's like in

there's a part in the intro In the intro to every episode of the show There's a part where all the three of these sumos They like put their big bulging asses together In like a trilogy And then it like shoots a beam up into the sky Oh my God As the lyrics are going like

Super duper sumos They got butts Big butts It's It's a tune though Oh yeah How How did jar Reddit find super duper sumo

Even I saw that job at it post. Yeah. I saw it, I was just like... But the fact that it was actually... When I saw that, I had one of those, like, flashback end of Ratatouille in the meal thing. It was like, oh my God, I haven't thought about this shit. And then it made me think of... Because we would have watched that when we were living on Jersey Island.

Because do you remember, you had the friend who was obsessed with Super Dup Sumos? Yeah. And he would run around, like, just in his, like, tidy-wydies doing the sumo shit. Yeah. What the fuck? Do you think he's got, like, a weird sumoos? maybe he is a seaman

no like I keep seeing stuff because it's like I follow a lot of like artists and whatnot there's like someone's trying to do this really long like

detailed essay about the development of fetches in in form cartoons it's like there there is something going on there there's straight up fucking is because it's like those those cartoons were just like

fucking they were really specific about one specific thing and the board like compilations on YouTube of like like fart related shit from all these like kids cartoons all this like weird like shit because I've always like joked they're like animators are like perverts right

I love pervy shit yeah they are they just it seeps in you can't make super duper sumos and like just get away with that you know and it's just like because it's aimed at kids you can get away of it because it's just like funny silly

but is that era like over now like the super duper sumo era yeah yeah because it's like because what is it like now what's like a kid watching now like your Marvel shit

uh four night ear movies fortnight yeah it's Fortnite yeah actually but then there's a lot of sexualized shit in Fortnite

no it's the same thing no Fortnite is extremely like sexualized surely that's like the new equivalent thing yeah no that surely if anything like shit's gonna be way more sexualized now than ever

yeah no it is fared up do you remember it's through a different lens now then. Like, it's like a weird over-sexualized Fortnite skin the same as a Super Dupisumo.

No, Super Dupisumo has layers to it. It's like... It's hiding fetishism behind like a curtain, you know? While Fortnite isn't, it's just like, oh, this skin's go out, oh, let's go on porn. I've searched this skin and get basically porn with it. It's like, it's

different. I just want to show you a bit of it, Jim. Just to remind you. Oh my God. Pudoposumo. It's just so you can see how sexual this stuff is go on YouTube search up Super Dup Sumo's intro for those curious

just we're not we're not like exaggerating here like just how ridiculous this hook and this is what we were watching when we were like little kids

I do remember this did you watch it I they got guts they got guts and big butts like that's the lyrics of the intro that's the lyrics of the intro

they got butts James is getting a bit rigid it's like oh my god similar things start They literally just said fat P-H-A-T

that Yeah Yeah it's actually Really weird He's like Watch the whole intro now They got butts They got guts

And butts No yeah No that is When you're referring to an ass As fat That way P-H-A-T That is

just now there's no, there's no argument against it. Has that, was super duper sumos the thing that started the, like, ass movement? Because it's what Kim Kardashian watched him as like, just like bring this. No, that is a weird thing there, because, like, in the 90s through early 2000s, it was all about, like, Paris Hilton. Yeah, just, like, skinny as fuck. And I noticed it in Seinfeld that I've been watching.

They don't ask, like, boobs or butt. they say boobs or legs in that show. Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck? Boots or legs? Yeah. The ass, they didn't discover the ass yet. They were just, it was raining.

And then super duper sumos comes out, and suddenly everyone's like, wait a minute, hold up. Hold on. We've been slacking on something. Yeah, we've been missing out on this gold mine. And since then, the world has been dominated by ass. There is some logic, though, to the boobs butt thing. I don't see the logic for, um, boob's legs

I mean it's like a similar area but no I agree it's like no because the boobs is like two cheeks yeah there's that joke in the office

where like the he's like flirting with a girl and he says the reason men are attracted to cleavage is because it looks like an ass but then that's such like an awkward bit in that show it's so funny yeah

we're in the ass era and that's we're in the ass era yeah yeah to be way happier to be a part of the ass era than the whatever that signfield shoot is on about the legs era the legs era yeah the Paris Hilton era yeah that was a bleak era

did you know Paris Hilton makes music she's she's done it all bro no but she still is really she released a song in 2021 maybe have you had a listen how is it uh does it star drake

no does it go like this super duper sum yeah no she's anti super duper sumo super duper sumos was her downfall ah that's what took down paris hilton yeah

Kim Kardashian actual nemesis I think wasn't Kim Kardashian like friends with Parasotan Yeah Yeah that's how she went She worked for her

Didn't she Yeah That was like the beginning It is all linked What is going on Um I think Kanye's fucked Parasilin

I don't want to know Yeah he has This gift of just assuming That he has So um To wrap up this section then We've kind of talked about like these algorithms and

Instagram and these Facebook products really and this has really been the discussion of the week Facebook what Zuck boy he's getting meta with it have you seen the video

it's like no I saw it was just it was just like Zuckerberg sounds like a Japanese Nintendo developer me dubbed in English I was just like what yeah it does look like a Nintendo direct like this does really

bizarre it's really weird it looked no it is dubbed it looks dubbed it's so strange like every time like this like he he releases anything out there so much just weird stuff comes with it like that what's that sauce he's like obsessed with a barbecue sauce he's obsessed with barbecue I found this video on YouTube of him like he's like I don't know he must have been live streaming some weird thing like at a barbecue and he keeps mentioning this sauce um it's got it's got a funny name um i never buy it and i don't care about barbecue sauce so i can't fuck what is the name of it it's gonna really anger me but in the background like

you can see it in the honest book yeah he says there's a bottle of sauce on the yeah what's it cool like jerry what the fuck i didn't know about this blooming night barbecue sauce all to mark zufferberg so i'm like really it's a very famous called like hot hot baby rays or something yeah baby baby raise that sounds right it's baby something baby raise barbecue sauce

yeah yeah that's what it is baby rays sweet baby rays sweet baby rays yeah because I saw this video of him on YouTube like someone had made a cut of he must have yeah done a live stream eating this barbecue and he keeps mentioning sweet baby raise and someone like made a super cut of how many times he says it and he's like yeah have more or a sweet baby ray

He's so obsessed with it And then it's An advertisement though Um I guess it's possible But at the same time Like Why is it there

In the background On the top shelf too Like if he was eating some Some baby raised in that living room I think it's an Easterer But why would he put it on the top shelf If he was like eating something No it's an Easterwork

It's just so he can be funny I think it's just an Easterwork Yeah I was going to bring that up too Do you think his level of meme like he's aware of it and isn't just embracing it because it's part of the marketing. Yeah.

I hadn't even considered. I think he is. But he makes like an actual ass of himself. Everyone, he's a joke. Mm-hmm. He's a robot. He's a straight up robot. What do you think of the name? Meta? I'm still a bit confused as to like what it actually means.

Not the word meta, but like what this, what he's doing. He's taking Facebook to be our lives. From what I understand, and I only found out about this today, because someone told me, like, did you hear about Facebook? And I was like, what? But from what I understand,

they're trying to make meta, like, the thing. The metaverse, I think, is what he specifically refers to it as, as opposed to it being Facebook that owns Instagram. WhatsApp and it all comes under meta instead of Facebook maybe because Facebook

like everyone hates Facebook Facebook is trash the optics for Facebook are an all-time layer yeah they're terrible but you just make it matter so when you go on WhatsApp and like there's the little Facebook thing it'll be matter instead you don't think about it brought to you by meta yeah it could just be that hmm man I do enjoy it though every time any time he shows up it's just like what you're gonna get it's hard to know that he's will

that he's actually a person I watched an interview from like the earlier 2000s or mid 2000s where the Facebook was still called the Facebook and he was like being interviewed and stuff and he was obviously

a lot younger and the way he presented himself wasn't as robotic as it is now. So maybe like when you made Facebook he's been like algorithmed himself and now he's like, he's been engulfed into it and he's become the algorithm.

Yeah, what if he is the algorithm? He's just the living algorithm. He's like the supercomputer the character in the face, the heart of Facebook or whatever, the brain of Facebook. The core server for Facebook is Mark Zucker's mind. Yeah.

And that would explain why there's so many outages for Instagram and Facebook and whatnot. Every time he gets that bubby source, it just fucking quack. Oh yeah, every time you raise the source. See after these meta messages. What about Halo? Yeah, you want to talk about Halo? No, don't. After these messages.

So Halo is... Life can be a dick sometimes. So get your dick from out your hand. And don't be a dick, wear a dick. Dick the head t-shirts available now. Check the description below. Because I remember, I have a really cringy memory of assembly of, um, fucking, one of the, like, head teachers playing, um, black eyed peas.

Do you remember this? Um, they played, uh, oh, how does it go? I'm a B, I'm a B No, not I'm B The one that's about Like healing the world or whatever Oh yeah Yeah

That's kind of a messed up song But how does it go You ought to remind me You gotta get the brain going There's no way There's no way Drop In the ocean

Drop Of James's dad Where is the love That's the one Where is the love? what about uh shut up just shut up i remember we found that that song really funny because they said shit in it yeah we're finally a song that says shit

yeah i can you believe they went there the black eyews have got respect now fucking hell thanks fergy i got a feeling i'm i'm shocked this song isn't in a marigasca movie is it not i just kind of assumed it was i got my feelings just shut up shut up shut it up just shut up shut up

oh shit foggy going in have you um seen that video of her singing the national anthem yeah my James's dad is perfect What do you think the black eyepiece, James? I used to love them.

Everyone did. Put on the emotional one. Yeah, I am. No. People epicking, people dying. James' dad is living. Welcome to the second half of the Jarkast, where we head over to the

gel media subreddit and go to the suggestion thread and answer questions, any questions, any single one. That we, you know. Not just any. All. Yeah, I suppose I spoke too soon, not any. All.

All. Not all. Every. But before we do that, did you actually want it? Did you want to? James, did you watch the Halo gameplay campaigns? No.

Okay, no, that's not then Fine by me Did James watch something related to Halo? We can't tease and not say it, I feel like Hey, that was this Okay, yeah, no, we don't have to spend long on it Um, Halo trailer Shut up

A few, a few Halo things have happened since Because I've played big team now I never mentioned that on the cast Really? Yeah, because it was all within the flu stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I got good impressions from that big team thing. I like the gameplay of it.

I like the vehicle combat and it's got way more potential, that big team side. And it's what we're saying before. Like, that's clearly maybe going to be the heart because I don't really care about the arena and small stuff as much in this game. I think it should have been. They've made the correct decision, though. The map was really good as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it feels like classic Halo But not You know In the best way Yeah, I played literally one game And then the servers Shut down Yeah, yeah

But I was really impressed I thought it was awesome One of our biggest complaints Has been What was going on in this campaign Like what actually is happening with it And they kind of Randomly like on a Sunday

Like just dropped this like trailer like a campaign trailer um I'm still pretty concerned to be honest yeah I think it's gonna be formless

I think it's gonna have no strong drive to it I think it's gonna be here's my prediction okay go on I have basically zero faith

in the storytelling abilities um I know that sounds harsh but like I really don't understand what the god of war one shot thing has to

like how that gels with halo like what that means what that's about why that needs to be the course we still need to play and see how it all fits in but at the same time they're talking about

this like open world structure and having these like far cry-esque like bases to clear and stuff like that and to be honest that structure doesn't bother me in essence too much

in terms of a Halo game where, you know, you're like using the sandbox to clear basis. It's more interesting than Far Cry to me because what actually happens in Far Cry is like enemies are pretty boring. The actual like way the combat plays out. You just have less options than in that Halo sandbox with like all the different abilities, the vehicles. Halo has always had like one of the main dynamic. So I could imagine a play space. a map where you could have some fun gameplay go down

and a lot of freedom and it's extra weird that there's no co-op because I feel like that's where that kind of gameplay can shine. It's like how are we going to take this base down? How are we going to... But I also think that's exactly why it doesn't have co-op. Because if the map is big

how are they going to have one guy on one side of the map and one guy? And we're like all the upgrades and stuff like if someone joins in and they're like barely upgraded compared to because it's like a skill tree now and all this kind of concerning stuff that seems odd for Halo when this like

going back to like the storytelling side of it like they showed off these like new this new enemy thing that's flying around like going all the everything you know about the four runners was uh actual shit or whatever we're the new one and I'm just a bit like do we have to go back to that again

I couldn't work out if they were a banished thing or not really i i saw it more as like uh this is a race we haven't seen before like a new like in the banish like fly around yeah yeah well i mean it could be like they never had drones in four and five this could just be an equivalent but they showed those little dibbies holding like the stun gun surely those are like the drone equivalent yeah that's what i mean right no there's like another creature that shows up this weird flying thing that has dialogue that is and like punch his teeth through a portal and then

it goes like do you not remember that? No. But from what I saw from the gameplay it looks good and that we know the gameplay is good. Yeah the environments look

cool. Yeah yeah. Like it look graphically it looks great game feel we know is good. My worry is that like there's not going to be that like Halo 3 moment where it's like this level is great yeah I actually am so intrigued by the structure of it and yeah is it gonna have missions yeah exactly and it's a it's actually a huge concern for me is the like the biomes people have been bringing this up like what it's like

the whole thing just that if it is just one big map and it's all this Midwest like you know yeah grass woodland and where's the snow where's the deserts where's that variety and how are they going to stretch

like how long is it how are they going to stretch this out I feel like I still have so many questions in a way that is not like got me confident yeah because there's like a different thing isn't it where it's like

being purposefully vague because they're so confident that like yeah you'll love it when you see it as opposed to like just the questions that are coming up here for me where it's like if this falls flat in terms of the structure

and like why is there no co-op and why do we not have like traditional levels maybe in the same way then I just come back to the conclusion of why you tinkering with the thing why can you not just make the thing like what's wrong with just like a campaign yeah like if you're making a halo game

surely it should be a halo game. No, but that's the thing where you're not liking change. Halo... No, but there's change. Try to do what you said and we got two shit games out of it. The Halo thing that you want

to do the Halo thing was shit. No, because they didn't do that because they changed the core of the game twice, yeah. Yeah. I just think there's no point even talking about that and this whole, like, what they could do and whatever. It's like they're doing

this thing. It's just we need to see how they do with this thing. because once again you're saying we don't know so let's just don't know we don't know till it's out so you can question it as much as you want but it's like we're not gonna know it's like trying to break down what they're saying yeah it's like super confusing it feels like from this trailer it's they're saying like don't expect halo expect like it i'm sure it will be fun and it i guess in a way this this reveal is like tempering my expectations in a good way because it's saying don't don't expect this expect

something more more Ubisofty well it's like yeah what it's like which is disappointing expect either like an Ubisofty thing or I guess a destiny kind of thing yeah yeah I'm getting on how they describe it because they're like this is 10 years now of like the new form for halo this is what it is now this is what we're doing yeah but also that shit never works out yeah when they say that it's just not even with destiny which like started that thing that they stuck to their plan even remotely no yeah and it was also kind of a weirdly edited trailer from memory um yeah that that was the biggest like question mark it felt sort of rushed and when it yeah when a trailer for uh like a

a delayed highly anticipated game comes out and it looks rushed it makes you wonder like how the actual game is going to be yeah it's like coming out in like less than a month yeah the music in particular just like fell off

I didn't quite how to explain it it did it like the punchy moments didn't feel punchy enough and yeah I don't know how to explain it other than saying it was off again I think I'm in the minority people are loving it or whatever but I don't trust them yeah I think I've got more I've got faith that I will have fun with this actually

there was one detail that I heard that made me a much more confident in what might come together because apparently a coalition has been helping them build the game ever since they finished well not ever since they finished but a certain point yeah yeah they hopped on to help complete Hello Infinite. Coalition, I think, in general, are better with their design than three-four-three have been, way more consistent. So, you know, there were these rumors of them, like, rebooting everything, like, a year ago and, like, trying to fucking shamble something together, I could imagine maybe.

No, from a business point of view, if you failed two times, but you've succeeded two times of another company, you don't give the, you don't give the project to a company. company the fails. No, but... You put Coalition, who's done it twice, who's rebooted a franchise twice of two successful games, you get them to do the work. So I think...

It's more complicated, though. From a straight business standpoint, if the game started, like, we started development a year ago, that's because Coalition got involved. Well, from a business standpoint, this thing has just been screwed up from the get-go in terms of how much they spent on it. If it wasn't screwed up, Coalition wouldn't be involved.

Coalition had damaged and control that game. but they might make it better though in the long run yeah no I think the final product is more going to be it will say more about coalition than it will the actual halo team we'll see yeah I'm not down on it or anything

I'm I am looking forward to it I'm gonna be totally real I'm still a bit down on it in my heart it's like it's a different thing now yeah yeah the the direction to begin with was wrong

and everything we've heard about following the Ubisoft trends wrong that's not how you make a halo game but the dialogue and stuff as well I'm a little bit like yeah all that lame stuff but I think it will be fun to have a halo game I can just play yeah I guess I kind of get I focus on like

because I watch like a bunch of like Halo YouTubers like videos and the things they're saying and honestly the bar is like so low yeah it is so low that it's like the fact that Master Chief looks like Master Chief is actually something that's brought up as like a positive you know that's like the level we're at with it so but yeah we're we're covering grandma we've covered a few times a wedding here now yeah yeah I think the halo I think how we just need to stop talking about Halo until

like the weekend after Halo launch It's impossible now I don't think it is We just have to ignore it Because it's like I think No I'm saying it's like I don't think there's anything

That can even be talked about Before it's out now But it's like you just got to go in an experience You've just got to see how What the actual product is that you're getting Instead of just like saying Oh what what could happen And what might happen

You know Yeah we'll see It's like you just got going Completely blind and I think you probably would have had a better experience of Halo at the end point if you never ever read anything about it. What, Halo Infinite? Yeah.

If you never played any of the betas or anything, I think you'd probably have a better time than it does come out. I don't know. No. Because Halo has the name Halo. Mm-hmm. So there's always an expectation. I disagree.

The name Call of Duty has an... expectation to it, but there's been so many shit ones that there isn't. I get the feeling of Halo that the fact that there's been the recent halos have been shit. The halo's highs were totally different. Not really.

But it's also Microsoft's main, it's their most valuable IP. Yeah, by far. It's the face of their company. I guess that's what is so strange to me, just how it's all been handled.

Right, still a couple questions here. Summer Daisies has one. Did you boys end up checking out any of the movies sent the PO box? Do you intend to talk about them in videos? Yes. Yeah. That's always been the plan. We literally...

So far behind. It's actually ridiculous now. We've got... We've got the setup to do those videos. Because we've had a successful video with that set up, the Hades video. we just haven't been able to because it's like Alex Azil James is ill James is ill

James can't do anything we've just been fucking yeah and all that overlap alone was basically a month just gone yeah just fucked yeah yeah it's like so we've we've still got videos to edit

that have just we just struggled to get the time to do we're so far behind that we have videos to edit from when like the set look totally different basically yeah because it's just Like, it's just, it's been, it's, because it's, it's, some, some of the videos we have

are like pre you getting COVID. Because you're, you getting COVID, fuck those editing that videos up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we got back and it was like, okay, then other shit was going on. And then it's like, yeah, I didn't even think about that. We literally started to, we, we, we were all here to record extra videos on one of the weeks, and then we all got fucking ill. Yeah.

So it's like, that didn't happen because we. all got ill so it's like it's so weird you say that because um like in my head it is ever since getting COVID for that second time it's just like a blur in my head yeah it's been now we're it's been a fucking mess it feels like months ago yeah mm-hmm i've had that cold like last that was back in summer you had COVID yeah it's fucking winter it gets dark at 5 o'clock now Don't like it It doesn't get a dark at 5 For the record

James is the estimation of times It gets dark at 6 Clocks go back tonight Wait what The clocks go back No no no no no no I'm not ready for this No no no no no no no no it starts getting dark It's already done it's finished

It's here Yeah Fucking up me for my time You fucking dumb bitch No I've never known one when it doesn't matter when the clocks change anymore because it used to be like all right go to your analog clock and um get the crank and sort it out but now now it just changes you wake up one morning and it's like

why the fuck do I feel this terrible and it's like well the it was terrible a good because you've had an hour more or less right we've got an hour more we get an hour more well yeah the clocks go back so we get so it goes to 12 and it goes it gets to one then it goes to 12 again so you slept an hour and it's gone back

this is how it works no but the thing yes the thing is it's like whenever the clocked shouldn't fucking change

they shouldn't what about the farmers fucking farmers can fuck off don't give shit about them James we live in Wiltshire no no

the farmer fan base is going to go for us The farm of Hamby But it's like Every time There's been

Like a clock change I don't All my analog clocks Like in your car Or on the wall Oh my car Fuck I never change

So I'll go like I don't know how long Like doing maths Whenever I see the clocks It's like Oh it's actually Now or less All an hour more

That's not maths That's just One Either way But yeah A broken clock is Correct twice a day. No, that's not true.

If a clock is broken where it has like a... Not if it's a 24 hour clock, I suppose. Yeah, then it's only right once a day. No, but once a day... What? 24 hour clock.

No, 24... If it says like... If it says 1,600, it's only 1600 once a day, you fucking knobhead. I was thinking the other way around. But... Fucking no big. No, no, if a clock is broken to...

where it's like not it doesn't stop I guess that's the what you're meant to say no it is a broken clock isn't it if broken clock is correct two times in one 24 hour period

that's right no but if it's broken where it still moves but in the wrong well you're just changing increments of time no no because that is still a broken clock if a clock Alex when you think of a broken

clock do you think a clock No, I'm saying if you have like a watch that goes too fast, it's broken. Right? No, but then it's never right. It's never fucking right. That's a saying. It's a saying based off. I know it's a saying, but it's wrong.

No, it's correct. No, based off like, you know, granny clock. You know? If the battery runs up. But if the granny clock is broken to where it, like, the cogs are moving too slow. and it maybe every other one it doesn't click

put 50 like granny clocks on this wall right no that's also one let them all run out of battery because if if the clock is ticking faster

no I just said slower if it's slower then it will it will be the same twice a day we don't know that we don't know that we don't know enough we don't know enough

most of the time when it's written down a broken clock is right twice a day asterisks unless it's going backwards or has all these other little things I never said going backwards if the clock's going backwards then it's not a fucking

clock but you said like a broken watch going backwards or something no if it's going oh if it's going too fast if it's running too fast there's a term for what you there's something in a clock that breaks

that is that situation it's possible for a watch for it's its interpretation of time one second for it is faster than a real second or you're making that more complicated the the techno temo whatever in the clock breaks

I said nothing like that it it's moving faster than time moves right yeah which means it will be it will be right enjoying the day it might be right once but not

it might be right twice thrice a broken clock a broken watch going backwards is right thrice a day. I mean, if it's going to be right all the fucking time, it's going to be right all the fucking time. So if the clock is 1.25 to 1. So the clock is 1, the clock is now going 1.25 fast.

Yeah. It will be doing right twice a day. A clock going 1.25. No, I don't think it will. I think it will. Why? Because it's 0.25 faster. No, but that means for every day, it's doing 1.25 days. No, no, you think of it like this. that means if a clock was double the speed it'd be white four times a day two two two times a day white you double that speed four times a day so if you make that

how many how many two point five's in two in in in one four so you get one you get two so I never mentioned what we're drinking I'm drinking a tiny rebel $5 shake I'm drinking um plant based protein soy out of a Cronenbeau can I bought some plant based

protein soy What do you mean It's it's PhD smart Wasberry flavor I thought it was strawberry A drink Yes it's protein powder yeah it's a powder you mix it with juice

you mix it with 1664 it's just like it's just like the instant oats I have yeah but actually for men yeah all right we got this one here from uh james underscore house 255 four seven how do you guys feel about essentially predicting the Eternals and specifically the character of Kingo

becoming massive memes and internet film communities at this point it's another one for the board yeah yeah just another one for the board part for the course part for the fucking eternal part for the fucking Kingo

yeah like it doesn't surprise me at this point no it doesn't next oh doge coin is fucking skyroxing well what surprise we said that like three years ago oh GME on the stock market is blowing out of the fucking ocean

Oh James said you should invest in game Like 30 years ago What a surprise Yeah When you hit When you hit so many times They become less

Yeah Like at this point It doesn't really mean a whole lot Yeah I'll tell you what means a lot though Is how expensive The Kingo minifigua is

On Brit Link How much? Yesterday Um I don't know I don't think the sets Are out here yet or something because it was like 15 quid alone

just for him. That sounds reasonable. Yeah, that's good, no, no. Plus 15 to have it sent from the US. Whoa. Okay, fuck that. 30 quid for a Kingo.

Fuck that. Fuck that. King-I. All right, I'm the Kingo around here. It's just not good enough. It's just not king. Just wait for the pop vinyl. Right.

Let's do this one. Okay. Tighter than Barkon. Listen to the podcast from a couple weeks ago. I remember a comment Alex made on aquariums. To me, even though some animals are not meant to be kept in tanks slash cages, I think aquariums have importance to humans, as we don't really acknowledge the incredible life that lives in our oceans and fresh water.

As someone who lives in a landlocked state in the US, is a great thing that I can receive the opportunity to see such magnificent creatures being so far away from me. ocean. In fact, I have a couple of landlocked friends of mine who have gone on to become marine biologists due to aquariums sparking their interest for them. I also think that a lot of animals live longer, get better taken care of, and aquariums are rehabilitation centres for a lot of animals that have been wounded in nature. Anyway, sorry for the long response, but my question is, do you think morally that a zoo is worse for an animal than an aquarium, or are they one in the same? It depends on the zoo and or the aquarium.

It depends on the zoo keepers. I guess I should clarify slightly what I meant when I was talking about this aquarium and the kind of thoughts I was having. Honestly, I was mostly bothered by the way other humans were behaving in the aquarium. Signs everywhere are saying, don't tap, don't touch, don't fucking touch them. Just leave them alone. Everyone just touching them. Everyone's putting their hands in, fucking with them, banging on the glass.

Trinking the water. Yeah, just getting in with them, just bathing with them. bullshit um yeah there's just something inherently distressing and sad

about the imagery of this like beautiful animal just going don't down up against the glass yeah um and

it just feels exploitative both both zoos do you see the sky's point there what you say yeah I do understand

I do like it for like rehabilitation and for yeah yeah you know and there's definitely merit to it. It's just, I don't know that, it's just

something about once the animal becomes a certain size, so then their tank is just not relative to... But also just cages, cages in general. Yeah. What do you think about the zoo? Is a zoo worse than an aquarium, or are they one in the same? I haven't been to a zoo

in a very long time. Yeah, same. But I think it's impossible to say. I'm sure there are aquariums that are great for the animals and there's aquariums that are terrible for them. Yeah. The same physics is.

Yeah, I guess it depends where it is. Yeah. What their main motivation is to. Mm-hmm. Because there are like conservationists, zoos and aquariums. Yeah, yeah. They are out there. And lots of people are passionate about taking care of animals like that

and rehabilitating them and everything. Capitalism. But there's certainly a lot of horrors that come from some of these places. Like all that stuff. from like sea world and that's like really dark like some of the places that has gone in the past might mention the orcas and the whales and everything yeah yeah that that documentary black fish is just like horrified yeah i've never had the balls to watch it it's definitely worth it the guy did the house a car soundtrack did the music so it's like um

names is a bunch of numbers, so I'm not going to say them all. I'll just say the first four. 4733. Says Alex and Jim, does your dad still say bichy? He never gets that angry anymore. By crikey was when he was really funny. Would he say it when he was actually angry or when... No, when he was genuinely like furious. How? Really? Yeah. Because in my mind, I have it associated with us

being like young whippersnappers and it's like a bichriky that's how I see it in my mind how is it in your mind you weren't there no if I see that if I hear by kriky

it's not a fucking bad thing he has definitely used it like seriously by kriky yeah in a situation where it's like I guess he thought I was too young to hear a swear word so he was like

bry kriky You know? That sounds Too silly It does sound silly But it's the fucking truth I'm telling you I don't

I'd have to sit in person Well That ship has sailed He hasn't said by Crikey And many a moon Is that Is that a New Zealand thing Or an English thing

What is that? Crikey's quite English Isn't it? No, Crikey's Australian That's what you associate with them yeah you're right the crocodile hunter

but crikey is the British thing as well I suppose there's some overlap there yeah yeah I don't know James always says crikey he drops crikees left right and centre crikey might have

out of every word in my vocabulary like the lowest percentage use out of most words out there crikey when was the last time you heard me say crikey? A long time ago.

I don't know if you ever used it. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. It's not one of my go-to, like, in a shocking moment. Oh, crikey. Crikey.

You normally just say... It's not to do with beans, probably. What do you say in a shocking moment? You've got to give me more to work with. Like, what's this scenario? You've just walked outside You've a pigeon shass all over you

A pigeon shawl over me That would be a Buggah What would you do then James if you're looking so If I walk out my... James would just go Oh

Yeah You wouldn't say Oh, bloody Nora Oh, bloody Nora. No, my go-to is Christ in heaven. Yeah, you do say that. You say that alive. You say that a lot.

Yeah, Christ alive. That's a good one. Yeah, anything with the word Christ. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Okay, nah. Envision this. Okay.

You were playing Apex. You just picked up an R-301. Loads of light ammo. Yep, yep. Oh, shit. There's a blue mag. Okay, a whole squad right in front of you.

You say, James, I need some backup. James, I need some backup. He's like, no, I got a heel.

I did have to heal. You're getting, you're getting bashed up, but you're still in it. James, if you come in right now, you can save me, you could win this game for us.

He's like, nah. I'm over here. I found a purple mag. I'd probably be like, well, we're going to lose now. it wasn't really the

kind of bombastic reaction in that moment you wouldn't say by crikey genuinely no what came to my mind was just we've lost this game it's done would you say that would you verbalise it yeah no it's just get your fan out

what do I normally say do I do I bring that level of game at anger I'd feel like I'm not really that time no you're not a gamer anger I feel like out of the three of us I am the most angry. Yeah, yeah, you get angry. You get really angry.

I would say you to a tide. Really? How? Because you both have equally, I would say, about, like, quick games and like... I get angry about my own performance. James gets angry about me. True. Anything I'm saying or doing.

That's really true. It's like, you pick a trough and I'm like, do you know what I'm like, fucking, like, losing it. If Jim picks up a flatline, I'm gone. I'm just going to scream into the mic and just disappear That was an iconic day I love that day That was a good day

Because you know you did it purposely Because you know it annoyed me You knew I was going to react terribly So you were just like I didn't know it was going to be that bad James actually had like a An emotional moment Because I took his gun in a game

No you've got to realize Okay so We were all playing Apex We played like five matches And they were all fucking shit We were getting shit guns constantly Just getting shat on Just constantly

I was Will Weech in the end You know when you've had a bad Apex session It's like, I can't fucking go on anymore So like everything was happening So we dropped down in the fucking shittest position I was part AFK So I didn't get a gun early on So I run into this room

I hit this loop, loop robot And then I see a flatline on the floor, then Jamie runs in his octane, just fucking picks it up and runs off, and I just, I fucking I went silent, I ran out the fucking building. No, you shouted Jamie first. No, no, that's when I went out of the building

instead of running off, and then I was just like, I was going to run off and not talk, but then it was just like, I couldn't do it, and I was just like, Jamie! Once James has had enough, he, like, goes into sabotage mode, where it's like it's time to just take us down. Yeah, yeah. I'm not

having a good time, so neither can you. no I don't do that ever I don't when you go silent and Alex and I will just be talking like chill trying to have fun trying to keep up with James

just anyway we've had incredible matches because of it okay got the old win yeah we've been like shit now way folks the flu wound it

of us I actually cannot believe the density of like ocean-related topics in this. It's like another weird coincidence. So it's like the next gorilla thing? I suppose, yeah. Ocean things. So let's end by doing a couple more ocean-related ones. Vander Tocare, 1-2-3-4-5-6 says,

Alex, in the last episode mentioned being scared of the ocean. With that being said, have any of you guys played sub-nautica? I didn't expect it to be scary at first, but being in an alien sea that goes down as far as the eye could see. was actually pretty scary that being said I really recommend it I really like that terminology

that used which one so going down in the alien sea as far as the eye can see the use of sea twice bit different sea oh yeah we got another bar

yeah that's a good bar that's a sick bar but yeah I tried it and it's too much I can't I actually think I'm there with you I can play horror games I'm fine my horror games

I can deal with it but it's not even it's not even advertised as a horror game is it it's just no it's a relaxing sea simulator whereas for me i've i've i've watched plenty of footage on it and like i think it looks like a really cool game actually yeah i think so too but it it's like spine chilling i don't know how to describe it like i can't i actually can't deal with it Hmm. It's like so claustrophobic to me. And so...

Yeah, the ocean, it... Just water, it's that out of your element thing. Mm-hmm. I don't understand the physics of existing in that realm. Maybe it's a phantom menace deep cut thing, where they're always a bigger fish. Yeah. That whole sequence has just ruined my life.

Yeah, scar does in a... In a super duper sumo sort of way. I don't think I'd have a... problem with that game I think you would I think you would freak the fuck out no I think I could I could because it uses

the distortion of um water sound to its advantage does it have like do the creatures have the scary underwater noises as well yeah yeah that's that's the thing

yeah there's these things called like leviathons there are these huge fish things that like do they go for you yeah yeah I'll be like a level 5 Leviathan and it's just like Fox you up But at the same time The small part of me like tingles like

Oh I kind of want to scare myself with this Yeah I kind of want to go into those decks I can do that shit with like Resident Evil 2 It's like Ooh scary zombie But like when I'm on land in that

And during a zombie game and it's not realistic While water stuff can be realistic Well I mean it's like an alien planet balter realistic do you consider yourself easy to scare by like games and stuff by games yes yeah

there's I don't know how to explain it but it's this limit on control that really freaks me out limit on control what's like in reality you've got like full motion in a video game like the kind of heavy way

your character moves and Resident Evil adds to the attention of it yeah and like in um what's that outlast whenever you have to open a door or vote over something when you're running away from someone like that that that moment where you have no agency whatsoever it just like I can't handle that shit yeah I'm trying to think like what scared me the most I was quite fearful of my first play-through of Reson Evil 2. It's always that first play-through when you don't know what's coming necessarily, where it gets you away. Yeah, and it plays on your mind the way you start doubting if you're going to be able to make it from like here to there.

And what was that, um, like, top-down game you played that's, you said, freaks you the F-R? Torture. Yeah. Torchard. A dark one. Yeah, the best horror game I've ever played. And I keep meaning to play like all the way through, start it again, go all the way through it. like is that that doubt thing like this shit is too scary

you have to be in the right mood for like a horror experience like if you're in a bad frame of mind or something already I don't know if it's the right I don't know I want to jump into I don't know but then being scared and like the fear fucking I don't know it's a fun adrenaline rush for sure because there is something like addictive about it as well yeah without a doubt yeah but dark wood does shit on a level

Like I've never seen replicated in anything Yeah, I'm very intrigued Um Let's do this one from Bibbubbbi Hey guys, a few casts ago You had an argument about who would win Swordfish or Narwhal

As a marine biologist I believe that the swordfish would win Because of the fact that the narwhal's sword Is actually a sensory organ Very sensitive and not used to cut through ice or fight As thought in the past I'd say that kind of conclusive inclusively actually answers it, to be honest.

Yeah. What did we say? I don't know. You're asking about something that was said like more than one episode ago. Forget that, it's gone. Was it more than one episode again? Yes, it was like four episodes ago. No, it wasn't. You weren't here. So it was either last episode, but the episode before.

No, you weren't. I explained that they fucking don't, they slice with them, like a sword. I think James was here. Yeah, I was here. I was searching it. Because I was sat in that fucking seat I swear Why are we talking about ocean creatures so much

I thought that was like a me and Alex I don't know why you are What do you mean you now you're saying that you weren't No your ocean creatures episode was when I wasn't here No but ocean crew narwhal comes under That was before your ocean creature phase Let's end on this one From RB-994

Good afternoon for Frib-tube's first-time commenter here. The conversation regarding people's voices during the biggest body annoyances segment in cast 246 reminded me of my initial experience of JAR. I could not tell Alex and Jamie's voices apart. For context,

I started listening in May of this year, but after a few Eps jumped back to the start, my Jarnie with the normal episode after hearing about it on one of the cast. Honestly, never laughed so much listening to a podcast. I primarily consumed Jara at the time through Spotify, so no visual aid to see the members and would be listening to cast for hours on end after I found myself with an abundance of free time after uni finished up. As with any podcast, it takes time to discern between the different members' voices, but because I often had the cast on in the background, it took a solid month or so before my realization.

It honestly came as such a massive shock, just my brain clicking on the fact that Alex wasn't replying twice to something James had said, but in fact it was Alex and Jamie. Please don't beat me up, Beast. Now, I realize that Alex and Jamie's voices are really quite different, in fact, and distinct. But I think the reason why I found it difficult to tell your voices apart was due to the manner in which you both speak, being incredibly similar due to the shared upbringing. I find that both of you have similar cadences with your speech and utilize the same vocabulary for the most part. Do you guys think you sound alike? Game on.

I think we sound alike. We 100% sound alike. You don't sound alike. I think that's nonsense to say we don't have any a likeness. No, you have a likeness in literally what they just said. In cadence, vocabulary and sound, being everything. No, you've got a different tone. How would you...

Alex, how would you describe the difference in our voices? Alex, how would you... describe the differences in our voices. In my mind... In my mind... Yeah, like, Alex is so much more high pitch. He's more gentle and soft. James, like, waff and tumble.

No, in my head, that's inversed. No. Yeah, I agree. No, straight up. I think Jim's voice is a bit softer. No, you have a soft voice. Yours is very gentle on the ears. What are you talking about?

He isn't. His isn't. But what do you mean by that? You need to elaborate about what you mean. yes elaborate by what do you mean Jamie Jamie can be deeper his tones slightly a little bit deeper

so speak okay say Alex say something give us a sentence we can say the same sentence oh fuck me I don't know a sentence to say The Eternals is the best movie of 2021 The Eternals is the best movie of 2021 Yeah that's much deeper I'm not deeper

You see this is the thing What is this like an annunciation thing? No, he has this weird idea that he's really high pitch. I don't think I'm high pitch, but I think... He's not really high pitched. You're high pitch. Now I'm confused. I don't know what you mean.

I don't know what I mean. No, no, the way I tell the difference is that are you... You are softer and Jamie's a little bit rougher. That's just... That's how I can describe it. Like, I, you, you could do a SMR. I don't think Jamie could. But that, that, like, I guess the choice of words has me confused there then.

You're gentle, uh. What do you think? That's just, that's how I, I hear you that way. I, I think the difference between you and me comes to very, slight um like accent differences I think I think you're posher than me

no yeah no yeah I think that's what I'm saying about annunciation I make an obnoxious effort to like I'm like an obnoxious yeah see that's the difference that's the difference where you you would not do that

but the say the word obnoxious obnoxious obnoxious yeah like that's a good example say obnoxious obnoxious the thing is when you're talking to different people

you change your voice so me talking to just James is different to me talking to you when we are talking together we use a lot more word man slang yeah I'm way more like slangy and when I talk to Just Alex

and you're not there I tend to like lean to a more like posh sort of area. Yeah. So when I'm with both of you, it's like this weird in between. I've got a middle, a middling, you know. But Alex literally can't use any slang, like Rodman slang. You never slang ever. Yeah, because you literally refuse to do.

That's interesting you say that because I don't do that. Do what? You never change your... No, I definitely do. do change at least subconsciously yeah everyone does depending on yeah they're around but i don't i i i don't know what i would do if i was talking to james alone compared to talking to you alone i feel like it's basically the same yeah no but no it is the same yeah but i mean it is a subconscious thing to me but it's just like a james is a roadman you're a gentleman

Oh, maybe that's what James means by the gentle thing Yeah, you're a gentleman Yeah, literally gentle, we're just gentle like Yeah, so you're like a posh guy A civilized guy James is the It's like It's a spectrum

This very video that people are watching This very moment Is a spectrum going from road straight to but how am I posh though listen to yourself so it's all in the voice just the way you speak

I think speaking is a big part of like you you know do you know what I mean but I just in my mind my whole motivation is like I just I want to be able to speak in the most

succinct clear way so people just understand me no that's that I I sort of agree there and when I'm talking to like strangers and stuff I try to be really clear like succinct and whatnot

but you and I have cursed with just the most drownoutable voices of the It's actually so bad Yeah it's it's the most frustrating thing Oh it's so bad like If you're in any anywhere where there's

Just a slight amount of conversation going on a medium-level busy pub Oh my God, yeah I've just been really confused by what you're on about But now it's like Yeah Go to anywhere that's busy of these two

And it's just like You can't What? What? You can't hear a voice It's just impossible Yeah, it's really bad It's super frustrating

But the worst part is Is that it doesn't even have to be Like a busy place No True, yeah You can just be like a car drives by Any type of noise You know how it's a car drives by

And you're saying something So maybe that's where it comes from for me It's just this like I just want to be understood It's through the noise You see what both of us should have done We should just be shalty people Yeah

You are Can be like that though With me you are No but there's like there's a shalti There's a shalty person right That's definitely like a type of person Yeah They're like projects like everything they say

You can't not hear them Neither of us so that way. Neither or none. You mean James? I was talking about us because of our voice thing, being drowned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

That's why we're both, like, quiet people. Mm-hmm. Without a doubt. Yeah, no, going back to the original question, yes, we have incredibly similar voices. They don't. Yeah. No, we've even fooled our own mother with it.

Like, No, you haven't. Yeah. No, it's the funniest thing. Like, if, if, if my mum calls me, I'd be like, Alex just answer it. And he'd answer it and just start talking to it. And she'd have no idea. No, surely she would.

And vice versa. No, the whole phone call then end the phone call. And she doesn't know. No idea. That's, that's not true. There's no way your mum does not recognise your voice. And like, we, I reckon we could walk into our parents' house. um

and like if you were acting as me say hi yeah from like behind a door it'll be like they just heard yeah yeah yeah

hi jim they'd have no idea no that's that's not true I I refuse to believe your parents can't tell the difference because they okay yeah but it's it's different when like if

if if I were to say close your eyes Okay, I'm crazy my eyes And then we went outside that door and said Something And you had to guess which was which Yeah, because you're already in a situation where you know Yeah, you're trying to figure it out Then it makes it easier

But if Alex just acts as if he's me In a situation where you think it's Jim What's supposed to be Jim I'd be at a total difference From instantly We're going to find this We're going to figure it out Yeah

We've got to have have to now yeah it's interesting though I find I find this topic in particular interesting yeah maybe um maybe we uh we need to start exaggerating one one of us needs to decide like to distinguish our voices more for the yogs I should I bring it down like a level what's up guys that's that's That's bringing it up. Yeah, that's going on. Yeah, you're right.

Bringing it up a level. What's up, guys? I'm Alex here. But your whole accent and everything is changing. Should they just do the casting? What's up, guys? Good afternoon, morning, evening, and night. Everybody, welcome to a new one.

It is actually really hard to change your vocal tone without changing your voice entirely. Good afternoon, morning, evening all night, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this episode of the Jamme's your podcast. are you fucking pussy-o-ting? I find the whole like using certain slang and certain words, I'm very aware of do not work with my voice. No, say, say pussy-o-olding.

Pussy-olding. Pussy-olding. No, but you're going pussy-o-o-ting. Pussy-olding. Yep, this is what I mean. They're pussy-olding. Pussy-olding.

There, that works But then I'm changing the way I speak to him No, you're not That's you No, but that's how I do it Yeah What small word runs like Uh

Oh, that shit got me vexed fun What a vexed A fucking vexing van Vex is a good word You got me vexing, bro No, I can't You come into my ends Can't

I hope my ends No I can't You can Say pussy-jolting Pussy whole thing Pussy whole thing Pussy whole thing

I like that The old YouTube That could be the title Yeah, good Yeah It's like an old Jocust that has like shit in the title or something Those were the days

Well Yeah The bad days For awful days For awful days Pussio Fucking rude boy Rude boy

Say rude boy Rude boy Nah Rude boy Rude boy No you're It's a boy Boy Boy

You got using I Boy Rude boy Yeah boy B-O-I B-O-I It's a booty-eye thing It's a boosey eye thing

Yeah I can do that I say Hey everybody No because then you just sound like Jordan V-Beter's um You want me to do Jordan

Yeah Do Jordan Say pussy old ting It's Jordan It just turns into like The Kermit voice The No I need like

I need some of his vocabulary type Ting you know Um Um Are we allowed to say Tang No

Ha ha ha Fuck sake What are you done to me? Wait, who is allowed to say, Teng? No one. Because we can't say Wagwan. That Google advert keeps telling me. What do you mean?

It's like this, the Google advert is this white dude walks up and he's like, you're what, Waguan team to a bunch of black dudes and they're like, what? Yeah, I've never said, I've never done it. And then the Google guy is like, you can't know what you're meant to do until you Google it. Oh Okay But no like Surely that's like obvious

Ting Ting is just like a Like a rude boy pussy old ting And my ends and all that shit That is just London So it's just like But it's London from like Caribbean It is

But I think it's so broad now In terms of like an English like thing That it So It's kind of just Is English Like just culture So it's okay to appropriate

Their culture Because they came to us No because it's It's like, it's evolved so much from the original that it's just a staple of just like culture and it's like it goes across. Yeah, it is like an amalgamation of cultures. I think it is a good thing, but, you know. I got, you know, it's like in school, the chavs, they all just speak like that. And that's how I know how to.

It was different. Our chav era was different. Our chav era was very different. They were saying some very old things Yeah Way limer Yeah, way lema It's proper like pussy old thing

Yeah Can we say ting? Yes we can say ting If you're concerned Just say thing Pussy old thing That's very wrong Jesus Christ

But like Pussy-O-Ting, is Pussy-O-Ting a thing? Of course Pussy-O-Ting's a thing. Oh. That there is a pussy-old ting. My bladder thing is going to explode. It needs to peace so bad. What's that called?

The Tower of Orthank. The Tower of Orthank says, Thank you for watching this or thank you episode. Uh... Wait, I for... Try again? Uh... We Tower of...

or thank you for watching this episode of the Jarm Media podcast. Ely, lily. Pussy old ting. Puss your thing. Ow! My blater is about to explode.