Jess & Ducko - Hit Breakfast - FULL SHOW | Rolling, sound, Shy Guy pants up and action!

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Ducko cops it from the fashion police, Jess has a proposition for Producer Babs and we talk to the President of the Enhanced Games!Subscribe on LiSTNR: https://play.listnr.com/podcast/nick-jess-and-du...ckoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Macca's new Tennessee BBQ range now touring for a limited time. Jess and Ducco! This is the Jess and Ducco podcast. Welcome to the podcast everyone. We're just having fun off-air chats. That's right. Because I've hurt my lower back. You know I'm...
Starting point is 00:00:13 Ah fuck I'm an idiot. I went to the gym yesterday, did squats. And Morgan's like, don't, you're gonna make it worse. So I was like, nah. You heard you're back on Monday. Saturday, Saturday. Saturday. And you went back.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I went back to the gym yesterday, did squats. And... Oh god. It was sore. I'm sore after. But I went and got Chiro and got... I got.... I went back to the gym yesterday, did squats and it was sore. I went and got Chiro and got... I got... Can you... Needling in it yesterday afternoon. My God, that was deep. Run me through this. Yeah. The psyche of me or... I know your love. Like it gives you a lot of joy. Yeah. And you take a lot of pride. Yeah. But what are you thinking? You're already in pain. Were you thinking this will make it better? I knew it wouldn't, but I'm sick. I'm sick in the head. You are sick in the head. I can't help it. Like it's an obsession. Is that your parents forcing you to care about sport as a kid?
Starting point is 00:00:52 No, my parents aren't sporty. That's the funniest thing and my sisters are not sporty. My granddad was. Yep. I apparently have a lot of liking-ness to him, like to him. Yeah. Word today. He's no longer with us. No, he passed away when I was in grade 12. Oh that's a four. But he was like big into golf. He was a boxer. He was small too. So a way for you to feel connected to Pops? Possibly. Possibly. Funny story actually. I don't believe in that sort of like serendipitous kind of spiritual stuff, but I was overseas competing for Australia rowing when I was coxing. 2009, he was really sick with cancer in hospital. I didn't know. They had not told me anything about his updated situation.
Starting point is 00:01:28 He died the morning of my final race. And I thought of him just as we were racing. Like I had this weird, like I thought of him during the race, like almost thinking I was doing it for him throughout the race, but had like a connection. But there wasn't a real, he'd coached you in rowing. No, no, no, he didn't do rowing. So it just, it just popped in your head. No, no, no, he didn't do rowing. It just popped in.
Starting point is 00:01:45 It just popped in. In your head. And then I told my dad about that after. And then when I got back to Australia, I told him he actually died the morning of my race. At what point did they tell you he had passed? While you were still over there? No, when I got home.
Starting point is 00:01:57 So it didn't ruin the celebration and stuff like that. So you won that race. We got a silver medal. Is that the silver one you got? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where your dad threw out your suit? Yeah, my jiu-jitsu. Correct.
Starting point is 00:02:07 So that race. Yeah, yeah. But apparently I had a lot of closeness to him. Shut up. So were you in the boat, ready to go, he's drifted off. Yeah. And they're all there watching the race and he's passed away. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, yeah. So we didn't win it, Granite. I'm sorry, but we got second. But he wanted to keep you humble maybe. Yeah, yeah. Probably that. But no, it was hard to beat the Germans. That's, um, so you know, I love that stuff. Yeah. That was, that was, that truly was one of those moments where I've actually felt connected to the other side. That's probably one of the only times in my life where I've been like, wow.
Starting point is 00:02:36 What did you call your grandpa? Like, what was your granddad? Yeah. Dad's dad? Mum's dad? Mum's dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, good response, man. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So anyway, mom's dad. Mom's dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good goosebumps, man. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:45 So anyway, there you go. I am so desperately looking for signs from past relatives. You're just looking for anything? I look for anything and nothing. I'm making stuff up now and I realise I'm looking for that. I've not had a moment where I go, oh, wow. I've just felt the presence of, like I plant, uncle Fernando had a huge fig tree in his backyard.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yes. I planted a fig tree and sometimes I go out there and I show Lucia, I look for these signs. I want something to happen, like a butterfly to land on a fig. And then it does. And I go, yeah, but that's a butterfly landing on a fig. Like it's going to happen. Where is that? This was true. Halfway through the race, it was like everything slowed down and it's a quick race and there's a lot happening. And it's like I remember looking around and feeling like I was in slow motion and thinking about him. It was so strange. Did you know he was ill?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had cancer for a few years, he just sort of progressed. Crazy, right? That's crazy. Anyway, point of the story, I went to the gym and yesterday I sort of re-aggravated my back, went to the car yesterday got a needle got it whatever but I was saying off air because I wanted to do a forwards roly poly with Babs and I couldn't because I couldn't bend over yeah what inspired that what made you want to just roll it we just had a bit of energy didn't we like kids with the zoomies but but I who would you rub in
Starting point is 00:03:59 the team if you had to like if like I don't mean like sexually I mean like let's my lower back needs a rub mm rub. All our lower backs need a rub. Maybe mid back. I don't think I would touch you because why not either aggravate the injury or you'd go not correct. Because what the hell do I know? You need to go hard. I feel like shy guy would be the most receptive. He would break though. You could break him. Oh, I don't know if I'd go that hard. Do you know? Because I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But I reckon you long for the touch. Wrong. So I reckon you'd enjoy. I think he'd hate every second. Babs would hate me touching her more. I think Babs would hate it initially then get into it. Yeah, I'm a bit like that. Oh, I reckon I could warm you up, baby.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, I'm a bit like that. Oh. Yeah. I actually love getting my back robbed. You are getting sick, by the way. I think it's no longer sinus. Take three steps that way. I'm sorry. Get away from me. I'm just listening to your voice. I think it's no longer sinus. Take three steps that way. I think you are.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I'm just listening to your voice. I think you are starting to. I'm trying. Yeah. Oh no. God, she did one segment this week and now she's out for the rest of the week. Oh God. Someone give her a rub.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Shy Guy, give her a rub. Who would you, who would you most, who do you think would appreciate it the most? Either you or Babs. I think Shy Guy would hate it. I love, I love. But I'd go hard though. I think, I don't see. I don't want my remedial. I love, I love. But I'd go hard though. I think Babs would appreciate my hardness. I want you to tickle my arm while we watch TV.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Nah, nah, I'd be getting elbows into the fucking. That's what Angus always asks me. Can you get my elbow into my hip? Some of the guys like it. They love it. You know what's funny? Like, I, cause I go to, usually I go to dudes for sports remedial massages.
Starting point is 00:05:20 How's me mate, Brad? Yeah, Brad haven't been to them for a while. Budget cuts and all in our family. But I want to get back to it. A bit too chatty you said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was not shutting up about his own fucking golf game. Honestly, he'd be like, okay I'll take you through my round hole number one. I hit this first shot. Listen, the sport's boring enough, alright? I don't need you now giving me a play by play. Shut up Brad. My mates refused to go to female, sorry, male remedial masseuses because they feel like it's weird. Why are they worried they'll get aroused?
Starting point is 00:05:48 I don't know. I'm like- There's a Seinfeld episode about that. Yeah, yeah. He moved. Sometimes you do get one in that area. Oh yeah. But I'm like, I feel like sometimes a guy can go maybe harder on another guy.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yes, yeah. Just pure brute strength. Yeah. I've had both and both have been fine. I was going to say, and if you're doing it correctly, it shouldn't be rousing. Depends what you're into. I went through a phase. Toe sucking. It always comes back to all the choking. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah. Fuck. That's right. I was charading. I always think about it. You also made the noise. Yeah. And when you did the noose hanging, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:06:26 What are you doing? You got to be so careful. Order of, that was enough. I had context. And when you did the noose hanging, that was weird. What are you doing? You've got to be so careful. Order on asphyxiation. I would not make it in here. Yeah, yeah. You know, people are into different things, Babs. You're still young. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Watch this get shot down. Yeah, I was going to say, are you going to even ask it? What's the kinkiest thing Babs is into? Nothing. Yeah, I know. Same, Babs. Watching Schitt's Creek before we do it. I don't know what Schitt's called. Having a burrito. I hate it. Yeah. I know. Watching Schitt's Creek before we do it. Having a burrito.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Picturing him as Guzman. Have you ever been into that? Content warning! I don't want it. I think it's fine. We haven't had this for a while. We haven't done a content warning in a while. No, we haven't.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We've done a content warning maybe after the choking. I didn't say it, did I? Yeah, were you ever into that? You know, the 50 shades of grey stuff. I've done, yeah. Has Morgan ever tied you up? Yeah, I've ever into that? You know the 50 shades of grey stuff? Um, I've done, yeah. Has Morgan ever tied you up? Yeah, been tied up. Handcuffs and stuff. Do you like that? I don't mind it. Are you ticklish? A little bit. Do you have one of those feather sticks? Yeah, yeah, we've had the whip. Had a whip. A whip? Have you ever done the candle wax? Deep anal penetration bees. I'm joking. Candle wax I have done, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Candle wax. Food like cream, Nutella. That wouldn't have done well with your guts. No, yeah, didn't like that. Also tasting cream then tasting. Oh, that's weird. Yeah, yeah. Done all that. Yeah. What else have I done? What else have you done? Just the moves. Yeah, done a lot of, yeah. No wonder your back's compromised.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Oh good, Shag is back. But how's this? Okay, where do you stand? Your knees just. Where do you stand on this? Because you know post-content warning! Post-pregnancy, you can't have sex for a long time, because obviously the female body is recovering, and also you don't have the mental capacity or the time or the energy. 100%.
Starting point is 00:08:01 We're approaching the six week checkup. It's tomorrow. Oh! And if we get the green light to quote Lord, I would say green light, I want it. Is that the Lord song? Sorry, is the checkup from Morgan? It's to check Morgan's downstairs to make sure that perineum is all cleared,
Starting point is 00:08:14 the tear's cleared and whatever. Now Morgan is- She's healing well. She's healing well, yeah, yeah. How long after baby, did you get back on the horse? That is a hell of a question. I mean, I was gonna do it on air, but then I didn't know if that was inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Oh, you can ask me. You can't ask me. I know I can ask you, but I mean, I didn't know if people would find it offensive on air. Oh, you know what? People find everything offensive on air. Um, that is a great, to be honest. Let me take that guess. I genuinely cannot remember.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Because it's been six weeks and this is... It's happened since I want to put it out there. She's 18 months now. Yeah, yeah, once or twice. This is... You know what? That was the bigger part for me more than physical. I've got to be in the mood Yeah, I've got a man romance or this stuff. So I can't tell you when I kind of came out of that zone See Morgan's not out of it. Yeah, she's not out of it. Yeah, I can tell she's on we've had conversations about cuz I'm like This is the longest we've gone without since we've been together And there can be a there's an element and I don't want to speak for anyone but myself I didn't feel sexy. That's probably I think that's
Starting point is 00:09:11 what she's feeling. Yeah. I was very impressed with my body what I had just created and what I'd been through but in terms of feeling like my most sexual self I didn't feel like that for a long time. So I can't tell you when I'd washed my hair after birth, you know, and just felt like I wasn't just, and to use Morgan's words, a cow. Yeah, yes, yes. You're a physical being to sustain life, not to feel pleasure. That's exactly how she's feeling. And I'm there going, no, you look sad, like, you know, and then we get...
Starting point is 00:09:42 And it's interesting, isn't it? Because, again, speaking very generally, for a man, it can be like, wow, this primal... Exactly. I am so in awe of my partner, my female partner. You're articulating everything right now. You know? And so, but then now if we get the green light on Thursday, I think she's worried about getting it. Because, you know, they'll be like, well, honey, what do you want to...
Starting point is 00:10:01 My advice to you, romance, baby, charm her. Don't, don't, and I know you wouldn't, but don't just expect. So don't just do the naked man, don't just come home and be naked. That's what I was just envisioning, you're just like waiting at the door like, I really can't. Here I am, I did a man, Joanna, that was a turn off. I'm there.
Starting point is 00:10:16 All those classic things back out, like some candles, get the cream back involved, whatever you think Morgan likes, set the mood. Here's another question, let's get fucking really deep into it. With pleasure. Like you hope to. Ah! Shall I go?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Ah! With the child now. Yeah. What was it gonna be? Pam the Kong. Yeah. The child is not old enough yet to be in bassinet. In cot.
Starting point is 00:10:38 In her own room. So bassinet is next to our bed. And I said to Morgan, we'll put her to sleep next to the bed and we'll just do it. And Morgan's like, no, absolutely not she flow cannot be in the room for the for that and I was like who cares it's a baby she's not gonna remember it our parents probably did it and she'll be asleep and Morgan's like absolutely not we can't do that but we can't leave her in the room on her own yet well which
Starting point is 00:10:57 means you're either putting her on the lounger in the living room and you guys are in the kitchen with the dog eating in a telecom a peanut butter con next to her the dog goes in the bedroom you close a door. Yeah. But yeah I didn't have any issues with that. Okay right. To be honest I found it worse because our door you know our dicky house it's old and Angus. Gianni can just push the door open sometimes. Same thing. Gianni coming in is weirder because the panting really breaks me out of my referee. Whereas the baby can't see see the dog would look at you. The baby doesn't look into your soul yet.
Starting point is 00:11:28 At that age, I can't turn their neck. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Granted again, noises can be very disruptive. Well, that's the other thing. You just kind of are now aware of the presence. Oh, we have the rain sounds on over us.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Love that. Are you because you're music people, aren't you? Do you mind? Yeah, music. Music and the boob bars is good. I've said this on the podcast before. Yeah, yeah. Music will drown her out. We did. Are you, cause you're music people, aren't you? Do you mind if you like a bit of music? Yeah, music and the boobies is good. I've said this on the podcast before, I think. Yeah, yeah. The music will drown her out. What's your sexy song? Dogga was the bigger issue.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Once she starts being able to lift her own head up, there was an incident where Lucia, before she graduated to the cot, she was in the bassinet. I've just looked over and her head was popping up out the bassinet. Just cause you know, she had the next strength and now That's be looking that's weird. You can't be making eye contact with your daughter. See you later. See we're out of here now I am dried up like the Sahara squenched squenched quenched. Yeah, gone
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah, that would then it was let's have a conversation about cot. Okay So yeah, that's interesting cuz she won't do it. So I'm like, let's put her in the corner. But I would say I'd bring her back to again, if her psyche, her headspace isn't there, I'm sorry, brother, you're gonna have to... So I'm in my right hand for another couple more weeks, eh guys? You know what's sexy? I've asked Angus to do... I love how much this is fucking off Babs, this entire chat.
Starting point is 00:12:35 You can leave Babs, I'm not done. It's not fucking me off, it's just interesting. Making you feel... Oh yeah. It is interesting, thank you. Is he giving you the flutters? No. Something I've asked...
Starting point is 00:12:43 What part do you want Babss have the flutters? Just this sexy chat. It's an interesting chat because I've asked Angus to do, which he's not keen on. You know, I've asked for role play. I've asked for this and he keeps hitting me back with just love me for me. What's wrong with a bit of fun? We, I read some, I want you to be prosciutto and I'll be mozzarella.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Something I've identified in some of the books I've read. I want you to be prosciutto and I'll be mozzarella. Oh, God. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I haven't asked for voices. Genuinely, genuinely just read the passage. And he has again refused. Morgan's a big reader. She is. And you've read those fantasy books. Why don't you pick a passage? Or do I get some fake wings from Teemu and have them on like fairy wings? I'm going for a Teemu sponsors. Have you mentioned Teemu a lot?
Starting point is 00:13:37 We've got wings. Should I put the fairy wings on? We can hook it up. And I'll be naked and I'll go, honey, call me Resand. Let me. Oh God. Is that a character? Yeah, I don't know what you want me. Is that a niche thing I think?
Starting point is 00:13:47 No, no, Babs got it. It's a pretty big franchise. I don't even know but it's a pretty big franchise. Try that. Set the mood. She'll probably laugh at me but I'll try. Oh no, we don't want laughter. I would laugh too.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I would probably laugh at me too. Oh no, okay. Is he reading it during? No, no, to get you in the mood. To get you in the mood. Four plays is the most important. Read the sex scene out of your head. Some of those scenes in those books are very graphic, you know, you can.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Generally speaking, I read this quote the other day and it was like, men need sex to feel connected. Women need connection to want to have sex. Oh my God. That's a great quote. That transformed things for me because I was feeling guilty, like why can't I snap my fingers and want it? I'm like, oh no, that's- You need connection.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I need connection even with the love of my life. I need to be- I've been giving her compliments though like this curry is so good, honey. Fuck those floors look clean. Don't tell your mum you've been feeding your wife curry because it's- That's all a joke. I would never do that. Just having fun. Oh I thought the curry about being too spicy for her.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But I have been giving her lots of body compliments because she's like, oh I feel that- I'm like curry about being too spicy first. But I have been given lots of body compliments because she's like oh I feel that I'm like you don't you look great she's like oh I feel so flabby I don't understand you'd feel that way after birth you don't look like that. Yes. And your body looks fine. Good and you know what she's got to believe it herself but it helps to be told that from the person you like are you a big like squeeze on the bum. Yeah yeah but then. All those things. You know I was doing it too soon after birth because it was just a habit you know you see it you grab it whatever and she was like ah and I was doing it too soon after birth because it was just a habit. You know, you see it, you grab it, whatever. And she was like, ah, and I was like, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Oh, sorry, your stitches are still there. Your stitches are in. I forgot what just happened. Yeah, yeah, good. I mean, from all the ground work, it sounds like you're doing a good job, but she's obviously. When we go to our obstetrician tomorrow
Starting point is 00:15:18 and another man peers down there and goes, you're good to go. You're good to go. Well, whip out that book, put on the fair ear wings. That's not a I'll whip out. Give her a, yeah, the book of the sexy words. Squeeze the bum bum. Yeah, okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And the compliments, man, compliments. Keep complimenting her up. What's, I know she's not a flowers girl, maybe a little something, you know, thinking of you, well done. You didn't do push present, did you? No, we didn't, I could do that. Could do that?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Do I get a push present? Cause I was asking if I could get one. You didn't push, so you get a catching present. Well, that's still good. I reckon that's what a sixth of the value you spend on the push present. I wanted some Oakley running sunnies. How much did they set you back? 260 bucks.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Let me do quick math. So 260. So you need to spend $1,500 on her push present. Byra Louis Vuitton. Goodness me. The child was expensive enough. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Okay, all right. Good luck. So when's that tomorrow? Tomorrow. That's tomorrow. So I mean, I was going to do this chat with you on air early. Yeah. But then I didn't want to offend anyone
Starting point is 00:16:17 who's been pregnant and you know, that wasn't what I was trying to do. Hey man, you can't get away with not offending anyone. But this is you and your relationship. Correct. So you can put up the hell with me. These are our feelings. And I'm not, like, I think what she's feeling is justified, like what you've said, you've articulated exactly how she was feeling and how I'm feeling.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yep. Um... Hey man, it might be another month, it might be six months, hey... Could be longer. Six months? Could be longer? Could be. No! No.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Please no. So if you come to work on Friday in a really good mood... Oh yeah, I'll be good. No, here's the other fucking problem though, sure, actually, ah, forgot this part. I said Thursday night we're on, she said no, Mum's staying with us. Oh, the pain. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Hey, hey, Nana. Why don't you take the kid out? That's what I said. I said, why don't you get your Mum to take her out, then we can do it. And then she was like... Do you, how do you go on being on the clock though? Oh, I'm fine. That's like me with, anytime, anywhere, let's go.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You don't need the connection. I'm good to go. You don't need to be romanced. A gust of breeze and I'm on. I don't even need to see a full titty. Like give me the outline. An elbow and I'm in. It's been that long.
Starting point is 00:17:19 That is a hell of a compliment to your wife. Like her elbow will turn you on. That's beautiful. I wish I could get Angus to say that to me. We've been having 13 years nearly. Like 13 years in August. Yeah it's a long time. How's the last, how's, I won't ask at the moment. No go go go. I wanted to ask like 13 years. Yeah you know she's never ever slept with anyone else. Yeah that's crazy. I often ask her that. I'm like do you ever wish you did? Do you know what I think my dad is the same.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm pretty sure my mom was my dad's first girlfriend. Yeah. My mom was you. My dad was Morgan. That checks out. Anyway, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, I think it's pretty like my friends, Nick and Lana, they were each other's. Yeah, same. Yeah. It's pretty, is there anything in that? Are you with the person's first? Well, me and Morgan had the soulmate chat the other night because she's like, you're my soulmate. I was like, well, no, we're best friends and we're together and we love each
Starting point is 00:18:08 other. But I only realized your best friends recently too. That's so true. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, Wally's my best. You're my best friend. But I was like, I don't think there is such thing as soulmates. I think there's compatible people. And I think that is the most pragmatic Morgan answer I've ever heard. I said that and she got really upset because she's like, you're my soulmate. And I was like, obviously, yes. Would not have begged Morgan to be a soulmate person. My test is if I die tomorrow, I would expect you to move on and you would have to move on
Starting point is 00:18:33 in order to get through life. Like eventually, like I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm not going to come back and haunt you. And mourn me for a while. Yeah. Obviously I'm a great guy, but eventually you would find someone else who might not. You might not have the same love with me But you'd have a love and you'd be a connection. You know, I feel like there's compatible people
Starting point is 00:18:50 So sorry, are you saying no soulmate? I don't think so because I can't you be the one soulmate but you die and she just puts up with someone else Possibly but I still think you'd love that someone you put up with it Just be a different connection and that's the hard thing as well with death, because you go that, you can never usurp that person. Whereas if you got divorced, you never would, but you know, it's like, oh, they weren't my person, I will go find my soulmate. But if you die, no one's ever going to come close. It'd be hard. I don't think I could find anyone quite as tolerant as Morgan for me. And I think we match, we match each other a lot in that. You've grown together. Genuinely grown together. I often think about if Angus and I met when
Starting point is 00:19:28 we were 18, 19, I don't know how compatible we would have been. I've grown so much as a person who I was back then, I don't think is who I am now. Yeah. Well you're back to how to suggest that. Absolutely. And that was 24, not even 18. Cause you believe in arm sole mates. I do. And I'm not saying like I don't, I'm just saying I feel like there's multiple people with similar characteristics that you are more inclined to get along with. Fair. And I'm happy for you to be like you could be with someone else, not happy about it,
Starting point is 00:19:57 but there's only one soulmate. But I know the argument and Hollywood always brings it up in movies and shows where they talk about soulmates. You're telling me in seven billion people on the planet your soulmate happened to be in the neighboring suburb and you went to high school Together. Yeah. Yes. That's what it means to be a soulmate that the world and the universe put you in each other's collision Yeah, I mean I mean I coached her in rowing and had to go overseas and so there's a lot of serendipitous stuff Talk about growing together, seeing iterations of each other. You'd be a soulmate person. Not now, Jethro Dumpener for Europe. Oh yeah, that's right. You're on the cusp of a break up. Didn't dump me.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Sorry, ditched you. Do you believe in soulmates or do you believe in just compatibility? I don't know what I believe in. Okay. I don't know. Can you remember when you were 24? I genuinely can't. I feel really young and I can't really just be like, yes, this person's my soulmate. Because I don't know, it just seems very...
Starting point is 00:20:50 You weren't with Morgan when you were 24, no. I was. I was 21. So when I was 21... But I didn't think I was going to like get married to this person, have kids with this person until like late 20s. Because my issue is on the other side, every boyfriend I've ever had, I thought I was going to marry. Because I go so hard so fast. I'm like, what's the point of being in a relationship if you're not the one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 You fall into it. And then three years down the track, you go, you're an arsehole. Yeah. Yeah. What the hell? I actually don't want to be with you, but every boyfriend I've thought, yep, we're going to get married. Oh, see I've never done that.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah. Not so much the father of my children. That was the only difference with Angus. I didn't see myself having children with anyone till I met Angus. And that was the kicker for me. I went, Oh, when you're with the right person, parenting doesn't feel as scary. Oh, and since we've had a child, I go, I don't think I could ever have a child with anyone else like, fuck me.
Starting point is 00:21:37 How could I do that? Totally. But yeah. Do you believe in solitude? I want to, but I'm too skeptical. Do you think your skepticism is stopping you from meeting someone? Maybe. Cause you have too many walls up.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Maybe. It's also harder the older you get because you get more set in your ways. Yeah. And you look for more staunchness. I've told you about one of my best mates who's like, I want X, Y, Z. And if you do not fit X, Y, Z, I'm not looking at, you know, you might have ABC, but I want X, Y, Z, which can exactly keep you sheltered. It's like, do you reckon you can feel love at a young age?
Starting point is 00:22:09 I don't think you know what it is. But see, my argument to that is you think you know what it is. So that's your love in that moment. So you do feel love. Your love will just grow and develop. Fair, exactly like me with the other boyfriends. I said, I love you to all of them. They said it to me.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And you did love them at that version of you in that time. And that version of love. Yes. And love will just evolve. This is fucking deep as shit. We went from you choking to eating, you know, back to death and then back to love again. Oh my god. This is a real random podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Anyone else want to add anything to the... I might have to get us out on a gong because it just feels like we've been really. I loved all that. I really loved all that. Go home and think about that today for your boyfriend's birthday. Cameras aren't working. I can't put it on Instagram. The 22 minute chat about having sex post pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Tomorrow. Soulmates. Discuss. It's always a good discussion. I think so too. Or when did you have sex after pregnancy? Either way, we'll see how we go tomorrow. How'd your romance?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Your postpartum? Jess and Ducko in the morning. Happy Wednesday team. Happy Wednesday indeed to you, my chip lord. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. There is a video currently on Jess and Ducko Instagram, collaborated with the Duckman himself. Obviously. Picking salty V's out of a
Starting point is 00:23:30 salty V lineup is very impressive. I knew you had skills brother. You gave me five chips, two of them I never even had before and I still nailed it on my head. I know, El Rustico, which I forgot to tell you, the most expensive bag in the lineup, you went, you poo pooed. Yeah, I didn't like them I'm gonna conquer that today our internal petty cash system because I ain't paying $8.50 for you to poo-poo's of the El Rustico's. I think I gave them to someone in sales. And the Real McCoys I think you said you hadn't had. The Aldi ones were good, but I could always pick out me So all of them were from Woolworths and I brought them in and then promo Nick said no no No, if you want to stitch him up because you're a Red Rock Deli fan yeah go to
Starting point is 00:24:07 LD because there's the closest of the knockoffs mate you sniffed that knockoff a mile away. Yep we did another video I had to pick the Red Rock Deli chip in there too and I did straight away. And like I used to work at the the perfume section at Judy Free and we'd have a little tin of coffee beans because once you smell too many perfumes they all smell the same. Didn't have coffee beans for you. You just had to go salty B on salty B. That's what he does. And you still pick Red Rock Deli.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Shy Guy, how are we getting him a Red Rock Deli ambassadorship? Chibbassada. Have they replied? No. They sent us that flavour for a bit and I was in cahoots with them and then nothing. We thought we had a door. They dried up. They dried up. Now let's see come on because you've proven you've proven
Starting point is 00:24:47 your loyalty. My loyalty to Red Rock Jelly I can pick them out anyway I even looked at I was like I think that's it tasted it bang that one. I know and I wonder if I'd knocked off your other senses if we'd put headphones in a blindfold and had just been taste yeah you still probably would have. I would have got it easily you could blindfold me I can pick them out anyway it's like I can taste a Forex I can taste it I know which one's a Forex. Well, there's tomorrow's challenge, baby. Don't write yourself off tonight with the state of origin. We're heading to the pub. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We're going to do... What time is appropriate for you to do a beer lineup? Anytime. Anytime. You're having a co-show. We're going to do a live on the air. 9.30. I think there might be a code about drinking on it. Nah, it's good to go, baby. Let's rip and tear. We'll do it at 9.05. Oh, that's a fun one. Because someone wanted us to do diet colas. I'm like, we've done that.
Starting point is 00:25:31 But I can't tell Coke's a part because I don't have soft drink. I randomly nailed that one, but I don't feel accomplished because I'm not actually a diet Pepsi fan. You could tell like different brands of like mayo, perhaps? Mayo? Yes. Sources probably. Yeah. I know I was trying to think what... Like that's tomato, that's barbecue. I got you different flavors of Red Rock. I went this is actually too easy like clearly that one's original, clearly that one's cracked lime. So the salty V line up is where we came in yeah yeah yeah but yes I'll work on hmm anyway some beer line up yeah right well we are going to the pub tonight state of origin that's right slash my husband's birthday
Starting point is 00:26:12 slash husband's birthday slash Jethro's birthday yeah they share a boyfriend is he is he still canceled after yesterday's absolutely how how much support did you get from two girls after you revealed your boyfriend's chuffing off to Europe without ya? Quite a bit actually. We were there last night and all the girls in the house were like, yeah, cop that. To him? Oh, cause you said it on air. Cause I said it on air. Ah, nice. You missed that in yesterday's Babs's blog. It was a good one. Yeah, I actually do have a follow-up on Babs's blog, Ducco. We'll get to just before 6.30. Oh, I see that on the board here. Yeah, there's something to dig down on a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. We'll get to that. All right, good. How are we feeling today, Shigai? Are you pumped for Origin as all hell? Sure.
Starting point is 00:26:58 When Shigai wore his blue jumper in today, I said, oh, hello, way to lean into it. He goes, oh, I just picked this up off the floor. Oh, you could at least pretend it. It was a happy accident. Yeah. Well, I've got me my own jumper on. Yep. Um, and it's my daughter's first ever state of origin, which she's very excited about.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Very excited about, which leads us to the question a little bit later on in the show. How did you pick your kids team? Because you've just sort of lumped it on it. Yeah. Well, I mean, as you said so delicately yesterday, she came from Queensland testicles and I backed that in. I've been telling that to everyone. You know what though, which I forgot and you revealed this week, your testicles didn't even originate in Queensland. No, I was at WA. Your Perth. But then I like moved as a baby to Brisbane. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:27:35 and then, you know, whatever. But my theory goes out the window, you know, because you're swimmers, I ain't even from the Golds. No, Dad was born in Brisbane. So I technically, I did come from. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. I see what you golfers. No, Dad was born in Brisbane, so technically I did come from. Yeah, yeah, okay, I see what you're saying. How far back on the family tree do we go? Yeah. Where are your testicles from? Where are you from? I'm, uh, Italy.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah, no, Abruzzo. You do feel Abruzzo? They do, don't they? Yeah, I can feel Abruzzo. But I mean, before that, who's to say? Exactly. Go back and ask your dad where his testicles are from. I will. Where the testicles that birthed you are from. I'll text him this morning.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Without a good morning. Tell him the Chip Lord says hello. He's a big fan of the ancestry.com. I'm sure he's got the service back with him. He's a big fan of the Chip Lord. Now I was going to get all giddy. Sorry, he is. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:21 He DM'd. Chip Lord lol. Thanks dad. You like that gear? This is what your you. He DM'd. Chip Lord lol. Thanks, Dad. You like that gear? It's what your daughter does for a living. Puts a chip line up for her friend. Morgan's mum's coming today and her grandparents are here this week.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Robin's here staying with us. It's the first time we've had someone stay with us with the baby. She's here for two nights, then Morgan's dad and grandparents get here. How hands-on do you reckon she'll be in terms of your mum was getting very vocal about what Morgan was eating, affecting flow? Too much curry. How vocal do you think? No, Morgan's mum's not like that. She'll be pretty good. She's pretty chill, but it's just gonna be weird having someone else in our space. We're not used to it yet. Totally. That's gonna be interesting. I think this has officially popped the baby bubble. Now you've got a house guest.
Starting point is 00:29:04 It has. I left've got a house guest. It has. I left in the good car today. I took Morgan's car. Oh my god. You know what she said to me? The Morgan's like, oh duck, I'll just be home from work, you know, like 11 or whatever. Morgan's mom's like, well, if you can call it work.
Starting point is 00:29:14 All right. Okay, so she's not going to go at her daughter about mothering. She'll go at you. You're in my house. Guess what's funding this mortgage? My work. Enjoy that solar? Yeah, that's from daddy daddy's Instagram
Starting point is 00:29:27 don't use any appliances at night though god forbid stop the dishwasher the sun's gone down please for the love of god goodness hey big show alphabites at 10k 630 Katy Perry tickets coming out we have state of origin women's tickets on the show as well for Thursday. Shy Guy dips. Jesus Christ, can we fit in anything else? Well we had a chat to the founder, the CEO of the Enhanced Games, Dr Aaron D'Souza. That's right, think the Olympics if doping was allowed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Jess and Ducco. Jess and Ducco. Hey, it's Babs. And this is my blog. Commence Operation Superstar Prats. Hey. Yesterday, it's blog day. Babs gets to come in and just grip into anything that's caught her eye, maybe something in the media, on her feed or something out of her personal life. And I've got to say, much prefer that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:23 It's one thing to hear her perspective on fashion trends and it's another to peel back the curtain and head inside her relationship. She's getting more open, isn't she? She is and I love it. Yeah. I love it. Babs is coming in, why not? Don't sit outside for this. Babs, quickly, come on. Do you want to give the rice cookers, for anyone who missed it yesterday, just the gist of your blog, what's going on with you and your boyfriend? Whose birthday it is today? Happy birthday Jethro. Yeah, happy birthday Jethro. He's going away on a Europe trip for four weeks without me. That's right. They're boys. He's hooked up with the boys and they've booked. You wanted to go on a trip, you'd been speaking to him then he's like I'm actually going with the fellas. Yes. You've been quite vocal about
Starting point is 00:31:04 your lust to go over and see the continent of Europe in particular and him, then he's like, I'm actually going with the fellas. You've been quite vocal about your lust to go over and see the continent of Europe in particular, and that's where he's going without you. Yes, indeed. He's going on a contiki as well. Which makes it worse, yes. And your friends are also going at the same time, so you can't go with them, so now you're just stuck at home
Starting point is 00:31:19 while everyone's going over there. Yep, that's exactly what's happening. And then to drill down, it will be on a holiday at that exact time as well, so you're not even working. Yeah, no I have no distractions. I'm just gonna be at home feeling sorry for myself. Well, I left yesterday because something did get brought up in that conversation and I couldn't I couldn't quite shake it. I thought, look that was brought up kind of jokingly, but does it have legs? You potentially coming with my husband and I, because we are going on a Europe
Starting point is 00:31:52 trip specifically to Italy, which you said was pretty high up on your bucket list. So last night I just hit record on my phone and had this conversation with my husband. Did you hear Babs's blog today? Actually, yes, I did. Over going overseas, Jethro going overseas. Yeah, how he's ditched her for Du Bois. And sort of jokingly, I said, why don't you come nanny for Angus and I,
Starting point is 00:32:16 because we're going to Italy in July? That was a joke, but what do you think? This trip's already blown out, out expense-wise we don't have a daily budget for a babysitter. What if she could get herself there and we just like pay for her food? I mean sure why not? It'll make the trip better. It would. I don't know 80 euro a day. 80 euro a day? What dad like the whole day she has to look after it look after that you have 80 euro maybe I think would come in handy I want to do some wine tours and we can't do it with her will she be around us the
Starting point is 00:32:59 whole time we got one screaming baby here, some blonde-headed screaming thing. Don't need a second. What if we... and when I say we, I mean she has Lucia from 9 to 1 every day. She can come. Yeah, she's coming! She's coming! That just sums up your relationship in a minute and a half. I think it's like, no Jess, it's too expensive, we can't do it.
Starting point is 00:33:29 She's crying, it's like, stuff it, whatever. Keep her happy. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. Throw money at the problem. I will pay you a per diem to look after the baby, nine a.m. till one. You get the evenings, afternoons and evenings,
Starting point is 00:33:47 which is really where Italy comes alive. It's 180 Australian a day they're gonna pay you? Yeah, it's probably more than I get a day. Take that. I love how we haven't even asked you off air about this or where Jess is going. Do you even know where she's going? Go.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Italy! Whereabouts? Oh, all the north. So we're doing Milan, Bologna, Lake Como, the Cinque Terre. Yeah. Cinque Terre is fantastic. Isn't it, Joss? Florence and then a couple of days in Rome. Florence you can take a leave.
Starting point is 00:34:09 No. Shit hole. Ducco and Morgan are the only two people on the planet who didn't like Florence. I know some people who didn't. But then they named their kid Florence. Landlocked, boring churches. So that's the... Can you shut up? I'm trying to convince them to come on the truth. Everyone else is good.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I'm trying to sell it. Yeah, yeah. So that, genuinely, if you can get yourself there, take it away and I think it'd be a good middle finger to Jethro too. Probably would be. Because he's just gonna he's gonna come back bankrupt whereas you actually probably come out on top. Nothing screams middle finger like mining someone else's kid over sea. Me and Latoya just in the corner both screaming. Well you're not allowed to scream when she's screaming. Don't answer it now. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's food for thought. Marinate. Beautiful spaghetti cacio e pepe for thought. Oh. You can come back. We leave July so you've got time. Awesome I'll have to think about it. Jess and Ducko's 10k alpha bucks on Hit Alpha Bucks. 30 seconds to answer 10 questions all starting with the same letter. Have to take your first answer. You cannot use the same answer twice. We are playing for $10,000 our player today. Here he is. It's Dylan. Hello Dylan. Hi mate, how you going?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Ah, Dildog. We're very excited to give you the opportunity to win $10,000. The question is, are you gonna take it off us? Oh, I'll give it a go. Give it a red hot crack, it's all you can do. It's all we can do. Yeah. What do you wanna spend the money on? Oh, I'm thinking about going on holiday
Starting point is 00:35:36 up to Queensland, I reckon. Noey! Bloody beautiful. Is that where you're from originally or you just wanna go up to see the sun? Nah, I'd go up to see the sun. Yeah. It's gonna see God's country mate. I was gonna say I offered Babs a ticket to join my Europe trip.
Starting point is 00:35:50 If you want to join Dylan, this is an open invite now. Oh, you're gonna babysit, you're gonna jump to Europe. You just have to do some babysitting. You get your flight over there Dylan, you can go on Jess's family holiday. I'll pay for your food. Nah, Queensland would be beautiful. He's like, yeah I'll stick with the Sunshine Guys. Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Thank you, no worries. Hey, on origin day too Dylan, you want to go up to Queensland? He's like, I'll stick with the sunshine guys. Thank you, no worries. Hey on origin day too Dylan, you want to go to Queensland? I'll probably go to the RC World and stuff like that, have a look around. Okay, alright. Rock on Dylan, the theme parks, how fun. The letter you're going to work with today, we're going to the top of the alphabet for you, it's A. A for Alphabux.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Righty-o, let's give this a go. Let's do it. Your time will start after the first question. Starting with the letter A. We need you to name something loud. A band. An appliance. A Disney movie. Car. An adjective.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Apple. An animal. Car. No. A car brand. A chocolate. Oh, no. Come on, Dylan. Don't give up, Dylan.
Starting point is 00:37:04 No, I'm not done. Oh, I don't know. I know. A chocolate. Come on Dylan. Don't give up Dylan. No, I'm not done. Oh you just gave up. You gave up an adjective when you knew you got it wrong. You got yourself two. What? Two. Two.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Something loud could have been an aeroplane, an alarm clock, a Disney movie Aladdin. An adjective annoying or amazing was in there. An animal I think you've given up by then, the albatross. The humble armadillo. Oh, don't get enough mentions on this show, the armadillo. Babs' favourite animal, armadillo. Is armadillo the one that'll curl itself up and get a little bored when it's scared?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah, just hides away from the world. A car brand could have been Audi or Alfa Romeo. Look, you don't go away with your hand at Dylan. Not a great effort at all, but you get a hundred dollars to spend online at Trady. You get Trady undies. No, not on, bro. You can take those up to SeaWorld, Dylan.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's it? Wear them up there? Show the seals your new undies. Look at the seals and your new Trady darts. Enjoy it, mate. Thanks for joining the show, Dylan.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Have a great day. No worries. Thanks guys. I wonder how the colonoscopy went yesterday for our 6.30am. Bro, TSMEO number Why haven't we called it? I had it. Oh, we got rid of it for other things. Oh no, stuff that. You wanna call TSMEO? She was excited to... Is she alive? She was excited to chat. Oh, we were DMing Yesterday we had it. We can do it now. We had one of the crazy crazy rice cookers on yesterday
Starting point is 00:38:23 That's right. She didn't do much better than Dylan on the quiz. She was like, I've got to go, I've got to go get a colonoscopy. With her mum in the car and she gave out her Insta handle. Yeah. Use her number, type it in. Okay. I wonder if she's still going to be awake. We'll try for Tia, if we get her, we get her.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Okay, yeah, yeah. I want to get the updates on the colonoscopy. And on how much her DMs were blowing up, Ducco. Oh yeah, did she find love? We'll do it after Billie Eilish. Yes and Ducco. Around this time for Alphabox, we had one of the great rice cookers. Couldn't agree more. Tia came on and all we ask when you contribute to this show is you bring a bit of energy. Bit of vibe.
Starting point is 00:38:54 You know to make up for Shy Guy's lack of, we need you to lift. And I gotta tell you we haven't had an AlphaBucks player do as poorly as Tia did, but leave us on such a high. Yep. When at the end of her contest, she said, gotta go heading into a colonoscopy. After she told us she was single and gave her Instagram handle out and then her Instagram started blowing up. Recently single. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So she joins us again now, post colonoscopy, day later. Tia, hello. Good morning. Good morning. Oh Tia, you sound in good spirit spirit so the colonoscopy went well? Oh look we're all clear, we're all well. Thank you so much for checking. No polyps? Everything's all good in that area? No polyps, we're doing well. We're all clean. A clean canal. Now you can veto this question Tia but were you worried about something? Is that why you went for a colonoscopy or is this just a little checkup that
Starting point is 00:39:47 you like want to make sure it's all good? No, I've had some really bad health things happening in the last couple of years, but we're all sorted. That was like the last thing I had to do. Oh, good on you. Now I have just one more colonoscopy question because we're talking about you in our meeting yesterday Tia, and then someone in the team, I think it might've been Shy Guy, I can't remember who it was, said that they don't let you leave a colonoscopy until you
Starting point is 00:40:10 have to... Until you prove... Yeah, you can fart. Is that real? Because I could not... No, that's not true. That is not true. But I can tell you they do not let you leave the hospital if they think you have a bowel obstruction until you can find. Okay. So is that the boss who I think is a fan of the colonoscopy. He loves the colonoscopy. He's had multiple. Oh yeah. He loves it.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Now let's get out. He's got that buy nine get 10 free. Oh yeah, yeah. He's the only one. He keeps going to that guy's basement. Uh, now Tia, we want to know, cause you put your Instagram handle out there yesterday. You said it was blowing up when we left you. Yeah, look, my Instagram went absolutely insane and I felt so silly for
Starting point is 00:40:47 not giving some specifications. I'm a 33 year old woman guys. I had like 15 year old men, you know, boys in my Instagram and I had 65 year old men in my Instagram. Come on, you put it out there. 15 to 65. Oh, I mean they're huge parameters. You know on Tinder people put the age bracket, you wouldn't be putting 15 obviously. That's too big of a bracket.
Starting point is 00:41:10 We do have a big range. We have a big range. No, it was great. I had some entertainment when I woke up from my anaesthetic. Apparently I asked my mom if anyone had offered me a radio show so that was interesting. Well, if I'm ever ill or Ducko's ever ill, we know who to call. Yeah, can we call, guys? Just jump on in. Well, if I'm ever ill or Ducko's ever ill, we know who to call. Just jump on in. I'm a bit busy today.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I'm going in to get a neck tattoo, but if you give me a call another day. What are we getting? What are we getting in the neck? Well, look, I'm quite heavily tattooed already, but I'm just going to follow up my floral piece on my chest up the side of my neck. Okay, so get the vine growing up onto the neck. Well, can we narrow our parameters like Tinder? So what are you after? Age range, likes and hobbies?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Let's do this. Okay, so I am a green-haired, whimsical, very fun, bubbly single mom, two kids. I am looking for someone between the ages of like, I don't know, 30 to 45. Someone outgoing, funny. Um, I don't know. That sounds good. I don't know what I'm looking for. Yeah, no, that's fair. Now, I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:42:13 When you, when you joined us yesterday, you did say I'm extroverted. I want an extrovert. Usually, you know, the age old saying opposites attract. I mean, just look at Dukkow and I extravert. Usually, you know, the age old saying opposites attract. I mean, just look at Dukkow and I, both our partners, you would argue a little bit more introverted and we balance each other out. Having two firecrackers can lead to explosion. So are you sure you're not open to maybe just a mild mannered, quiet librarian?
Starting point is 00:42:42 No, look, I've done the whole golden retriever boy thing and it's just not my thing. Okay she wants a firecracker. What about a boy with coloured hair like yourself? Oh look go off queen I'm all about and like we have to think about the women as well I love the women. Okay okay. Oh we're not specifying. We're just looking for a good person. We're looking for a soul. Tia what about red flags? What are we putting a line through? If you're a smoker, don't bother or things like that. No, look, red flags, victim complex.
Starting point is 00:43:10 We don't like someone who doesn't want to help themselves. We don't like people who think negatively or who aren't kind to people. We love people who are just happy and want to do good in the world, you know? All right, Debbie Downers, stay away. No, thank you. Get out of my life. Positive Peters and Patricia's. Come on in. Debbie Downers, stay away. Negative Nellies. Get out of my life. Positive Peters and Patricia's.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Okay. Come on in. Hey look, if you think that's you 131060, by all means call in. No, we're doing call in. What? By all means. Look, you've really set a niche human, but we might find them. But hey, I don't think she's asking for the world.
Starting point is 00:43:40 She's asking for positivity. No, I'm really not. Yeah, positivity and a good time. That's alright. Everyone's going to have a bit of baggage though, Tia. You're just going to have to cop that. When Tia and I age bracket. That's all right. Everyone's going to have a bit of baggage though, Tia. You're just going to have to cop that. When Tia and I were DMing last night, I said, don't discount who could slide in. My husband slid in.
Starting point is 00:43:55 That was our first interaction. I was like, to Tia? No. To me, our first interaction was an Instagram DM. Love can blossom in the DMs. So it's again, low key black tea. TEE, isn't it Tia? Yeah, low key black tea.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Just someone to put in the energy and the effort, you know? There you go. Alright Tia, well good luck and I'm glad the colonoscopy went well. Good luck with the next hat. Thanks guys. You guys have the best day. I'll send you pics of the next hat later. Please do.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah, do it. Yeah, good. You're gonna love gonna love it. The Rice Cooker's just doing great things. If you want to follow it here, go do it. Absolutely. You know? No 15-year-olds and no 60-year-olds. You've been warned. I don't think that's too much to ask. What we would like to do though is draw your attention to the Jess and Ducko Instagram page. If you're not following us, I implore you, not only do you get a behind-the-scenes look at what goes on in the studio. Oh yeah. Some great stories and tidbits, but also some of the hijinks we get up to, post-show. Some of the
Starting point is 00:44:52 bands. And yesterday I gave a challenge to me mate. He loves a salty V. Big fan of salt and vinegar chips in particular. Yes. You're a one-brand man. Yeah, Red Rock Deli. Red Rock Deli is your vibe. And I said a one brand man. Yeah, Red Rock Deli. Red Rock Deli is your vibe. And I said to you, I can pick a Red Rock Deli out of a lineup and you said, challenge accepted. So I went to Woolworths and I spent a pretty penny. You would have. They're not cheap man.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Chips are so expensive now. So originally I was going to give you a Red Rock Deli lineup and I thought that's too easy because the flavors. Get a loan out. Bro. Yeah. Hey man, I put El Rustico in the mix, not that I think it's a household name and I apologize to El Rustico if you are, I had just never seen it before. I'm a Smiths
Starting point is 00:45:32 trip through and through. You got like a good Smiths Cricket card. But El Rustico $8.50. When did chips get so freaking expensive? It's crazy. And they're the ones you didn't even like. Whatever, I'm burying the lead. But we did like a police line up, taste testing salty V's. Pick the chip to the packet or to the company. Because the original challenge I wanted to give you was, tell me which one's Red Rock Deli. You did that in three seconds. Easily. I went, oh, that wasn't very hard.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah. I don't think we're going to go viral. I know Red Rock Deli. Yeah. And I know Salt and Vinegar chips. Like I know them. And so then when I had to pick all the five brands, I'd only had three of those brands. I only had the other two.
Starting point is 00:46:05 El Rustico was in there, Real McCoy was in there, and then we had Red Rock Deli Kettle. And, I got the inside word that the Blackstone, which is stocked at Aldi, Yeah, they are good. is a knockoff Red Rock Deli. They're a team who Red Rock Deli. But apparently, very good. They were still good, but you can taste it. So gave you the challenge to match the chip to the packet.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yep. Given you'd not even had two of them. Yeah. Took you 25 seconds. Enter the chip lord, baby. The chip lord reigns supreme. They call me chip daddy around the office. Five out of five without even missing a beat. Yeah. You didn't even have to think about it. I thought kettle might throw you. No, I can taste the difference. You didn't even have to think about it. I thought kettle might throw you. No, I can taste the difference. You didn't even. I know my chips.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Now, I had thins in the wings. You can tell a thin. But you can tell a thin from sight. A Smiths crinkle cut, I would have been able to just look at it and know. Again, crinkle cut, I thought, nah, it's a crinkle cut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You've got to have the nice fold over, old school, thinly cut. I had a lot of people, so go check it out on Jess and Darko on my Instagram. It's up there right now. Bit of fun. I had a lot of people, so go check it out on Jess and Darko on my Instagram, it's up there right now, bit of fun. I had a lot of people messaging saying great skill. This girl just wants to travel commented, I didn't know this was possible.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Well that's because you've never met a chip lord. Anything's possible when you put your back and your mind to it, you know what I mean? And your tongue. And your tongue. What was working more for you, your tongue or your teeth now, so tongue doing a heavy lifting. You asked my wife, my tongue is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I excel in the flavors. I excel in it, you know? We're going to do beer next, but anyway, there was one little detail that both of us didn't catch. It's letting me down and I'm annoyed at you for not, because my mum messaged me. I was focused on the skill. Pardon me, I was focused on tongue. Yesterday, I was wearing these pants and I had a shirt tucked in, but the shirt was underneath
Starting point is 00:47:45 a jumper. It wasn't a shirt, it was a little V-neck sweater. Yeah, sweater, yeah. And I had that tucked into my pants because I was wearing a big jumper because it was freezing. So you didn't want the sweater poking out from the jumper. Exactly, and I never thought I was going to take the jumper off. Now I did take the jumper off because we got hot.
Starting point is 00:47:59 But with the challenge ahead of the salty V's you went, oh I've got to de-robe. I had to de-robe a bit. But you didn't undock. Because the jumper was also baggy and I didn't want the baggage, you know, I didn't want any taste, any flavouring getting on the jumper. So the chip lord looks like a big old dwee. I look like an altar boy. Like I literally look like the biggest...
Starting point is 00:48:14 Like giving Eucharistic Minister. My mum messages in our family chat and then my family, also my sister's like, why is your shirt tucked in? Since when do you wear tucked in shirts to work? Wait, what did your... You look like a child. What did your mum... Mum just said, oh good job. She calls me Nick, that's my name. Oh good job, Nicky. Not sure wear tucked in shirts to work? You look like a child. What did your mum? Mum just said, oh good job.
Starting point is 00:48:25 She calls me Nick, that's my name. Oh, good job, Nicky. Not sure about tucked in shirt. Hang on a minute. This is the woman who has messaged you live TV segment when you do the Today Show weather, telling you to stand up straighter. Why didn't you iron your shirt? You're telling me your mum is now condemning the tuck.
Starting point is 00:48:42 She is. Of all the people to condemn the tuck. Oh, that's what made me most embarrassed, because then Morgan watched the videos and I go, What do you think? Morgan goes, Oh, it's really cool. Hey, don't tuck that shirt in again. Next time you wear that. And I was like, I didn't mean to. Gee, now it's ruining the video because I look like an idiot. You want to do it again. I look like a loser.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I'll do it again. So embarrassed. I went and looked in the mirror, I like, untucked, I was like, no I'm cool, I'm legit. No but this is good, the chip lord is human. I know. You know? He's only a man. I just felt like a dad.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I was just like, god damn it, it's been six weeks. Yeah I know and they didn't even see your bloody assics on Temple. Shut up. Jess and Ducko. G'day mate. It's Katy Perry here. I kissed a girl. Global superstar Katy Perry is bringing her Lifetimes Tour, presented Snaffle to Sydney's Kudos Bank Arena June 9.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Tickets on sale now. For info head to tegdainty.com. Jess and Ducko's one second song game. Do you want to be there in June? A double pass plus accommodation in Sydney. Yep. Well you just need to be the last person standing come Friday. We're working a carryover champ situation. Oh yeah. With the one second song game you identify the Katy Perry song within one second. You're the champion that day. A tough one yesterday but our champ was Amanda and she joins us again. Good morning
Starting point is 00:50:02 Amanda. Morning. Are you ready to defend the crown, Amanda? Yes. Okay, have you been practicing overnight? What was the last 24 hours look like for you? Oh, lots of Katy Perry. Lots of KP. Okay, all right, so you're a fan, you've been practicing. This should be a walk in the park.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Come on, a true kitty cat. Oh. It would be a walk in the park. Let's find out. Okay, here we go. Ooh, Amanda. I'll play it for you one more time. We're beginning ever and two.
Starting point is 00:50:31 So here we go. That felt like a generous one, didn't it? It felt longer. Come on, Amanda. It felt longer. Oh, it's smile. Wow. Oh, she's a kitty cat.
Starting point is 00:50:44 We got a kitty cat on the right. Amanda, do you love this song? Yes. What about your homework paying off? No, I've played that song in the car. Oh, and you just smile along. Well, Amanda, you're another day better for it. We will see you bright and early tomorrow morning to defend your crown. Thank you. Thank you, Amanda. Jeez, that was a quick one. That's just business. Amanda is all business. Absolutely. You know who else is all business? Yes. Dr Aaron D'Souza. Now this is a name you were going to start seeing more and more of. He's the founder of something called the Enhanced Games. Think the Olympics? If the doping was allowed. Steroids. We had a 20 minute chat with him yesterday. We're going to play a part of that
Starting point is 00:51:24 conversation because the guy's out to destroy the Olympics. Really is. Yeah. Genuinely. He put up some interesting arguments. Jess and Ducco. Jess and Ducco. I had a very interesting chat with my brother-in-law yesterday. I've been excited to talk about this on the air for a while, but I've had to wait until he's done it because he went and did a 10 day silent retreat.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Oh, welcome to the club, Sam. Sam, yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome to the club with all enlightened people do this eventually, ducko. You reckon you've done a 10-day silent retreat? Well, I went to one. Was I silent the whole time? No, but I was there. I paid my money. Was it 10 days? Yeah, in India. Was it in India?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Yeah, yeah. Did you actually last? Yeah, but I got told off many times. I've told you this, remember? I kept getting knocks on the door because they put me in a cabin with three other Aussies. Yes, yes, yes. They split me in the boyfriend because the boys were in one part, the girls were in another. Yeah, they split the sexes up.
Starting point is 00:52:14 That's right. Where did he do it? Sunshine Coast. Oh. So he wasn't quite in India. I assumed there was only the one in India. So he had to apply for it. They didn't pay for it because you apply for it for various reasons.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Can be anything you want from trauma, mental health, whatever it may be. Oh no, this was, it was basically a tourist thing. Yeah, basically pay for it. He had to be approved. He had to be approved, go through an interview process and got it. Didn't tell anyone he was doing it, then just whips out to his parents, hey, he's 22. He's like, I'm going to this silent retreat on the Sunshine Coast for 10 days, no phones allowed. I'm going to leave you with my phone.
Starting point is 00:52:46 You can't contact me. You can't bring a journal in. You can't bring books in. You can't read. It's me and my thoughts. That's it for 10 days. You're not allowed to speak. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And we didn't know if he was going to last. People break and they're allowed to leave whenever they want. Yep. Is it meditation? That's the one I did. Correct. It was a meditation retreat. Correct.
Starting point is 00:53:04 So it's not like you were just sitting there staring at a wall the whole time. It was sessions. You do meditation. But also meditation, is it just staring at a wall? I don't know. It's hard. Until you can break through that. Exactly. That's hard. So he basically said to me, because I spoke to him yesterday, he made the 10 days. He said to me that what they did is they'd wake up and they'd have breakfast and then they'd
Starting point is 00:53:19 meditate and then they'd go back to their room and meditate and then they'd all meet again and meditate and then they'll have lunch and then meditate. And you're not allowed to talk at meal times either? Not allowed to talk, nothing. And they wouldn't be allowed dinner. So there was no dinner served, you were only allowed an option of fruit or tea, herbal tea. So it was kind of like you're-
Starting point is 00:53:37 A full cleanse. Cleansing yourself as well and fasting as well. So not only are you cleansing and fasting and you're probably energy-less, but you're not allowed to exercise, you're not allowed to read, you're not allowed to write and you're not allowed to talk. And have they said this will reset your mind? Exactly. And what was the motivation? Gratitude, resetting your mind, you know, all that sort of gear. And to be fair, when I spoke to him yesterday on the phone, it
Starting point is 00:54:00 was interesting because he like, he was quite, he was quite grateful and he had you know, he had a few things going on and he mentioned them to me and he was showing some good signs of growth. However, the stuff that he did, which is always the way after these things, is go, geez, ducko, I was thinking of you throughout this whole time. I think you'd get a lot from a silent retreat. I had to fight so hard to not get offended. I was like, oh yeah, why me hard to not get offended. Like I was like, oh yeah, why me? Yeah, yeah, all that stuff on your plate, you know, could really do. It'd be great for raising a kid. I was like, yeah, no worries. While I have a six-week hold and I have a job, I'll just jump into a 10-day sol retreat. You tell your sister, my wife,
Starting point is 00:54:39 that I'm just going to chuff off to the central sunny coast. Because you think it's good. Because you think it's good. I find it really challenging because people who are hardcore devotees of meditation, they do talk about it being so transformative. I'm sure it is. But when you're not being led, maybe like a therapy session where you can actually talk through your trauma or feelings,
Starting point is 00:55:01 I find it really hard to understand how that is resetting your mind. Wild. Because I'm just now sitting alone with those thoughts. By yourself. Oh, it really hard to understand how that is resetting your mind. Wiles. Because I'm just now sitting alone with those thoughts. By yourself. Oh, it'd be horrible. Spinning round and round in my head. As you can see, the meditation retreat did not work for me. Well, this is what I want to talk about because he said, me speaking a lot, and he's like, you know, you've got like ADHD, undiagnosed, obviously.
Starting point is 00:55:19 We all do. From a different time. We all do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what, you have high energy. Pardon me. He's like, it would be great for you. And I'm like, ah, it probably would be.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And I would learn a lot about it. What's the longest you can sit still, do you reckon? Well, when I had my, oh, sit still, not long. I'd go insane on exercising. But maybe when I had the vocal hemorrhage of my vocal cords two years ago, that was the longest I had to go without speaking. I couldn't speak for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And like in there, I was trying to say a few words when it was bad for me. Yeah. Oh man, it was a nightmare. Absolutely. It's just you with your thoughts alone. Are you serious? And then Morgan gets on the phone. He's like, oh, I think you should do it too, Morgan. He's just like basically just telling everyone in his life that they should do the silent retreat. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, don't put your silent shit on me. Hang on a minute. Has he been roped into a pyramid scheme? Did he say use Sam Tant?
Starting point is 00:56:05 Because he gets a slice of the pie. Use the discount code. Jess and Ducco. Jess, we've been chatting about this for a while on the show. It's been building momentum, the enhanced games. That's right. I'm not going to explain it, Ducco, because I know it's been circulating the media.
Starting point is 00:56:21 There are headlines. There are conversations happening on both sides of the fence. So I think the Olympics, if doping was allowed. We have important allies in our battle for bodily freedom as we build the first sporting event that allows performance enhancements and pays all athletes. When we first announced the enhanced games, the Olympic Committee said we were a joke, an idea that couldn't be taken seriously. But venture capitalists know that the future isn't a joke. Yeah, that's right. Enhancing athletes scientifically with medicine to show what the human body
Starting point is 00:56:57 is capable of and to essentially they're on a mission to break every single world record out there. That's right. The founder, the president, Dr. Aaron D'Souza. We're really lucky to squirrel away a bit of time with this man because you're trending, Aaron, you're trending. You are everywhere and everyone's talking about the enhanced games globally, let alone here in Australia.
Starting point is 00:57:18 So good morning to you. Good morning to you. Thanks for having me on the show. I suppose the first question, Aaron, and you probably get asked this a lot, is why did you want to start this? Where did this come from? This idea from you? Well, I'll always credit it.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It's not my idea. It's actually the idea of a prominent bioathletist from Oxford University, Professor Julian Savarescu, who first argued for the inclusion of performance enhancing drugs in the Olympic Games almost 20 years ago. I just took his idea and I made it a reality. So when he first pitched this 20 years ago, he was condemned and now you're facing the same condemnation from anti-doping agencies around the world and athletes alike. What do you actually say? What's your response to your opponents? Well, I would say that the taxicabs criticized Uber, the hotels criticized Airbnb, and that innovation is always hard because innovation disrupts long, tired, broken incumbents.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And the International Olympic Committee president lives in a palace, flies around the world in a private jet. Yeah, the Olympians of the world on average in the rich countries like Australia earn only about $30,000 a year. And we're shaking out that whole system. So let's get into it, how it actually is going to work. Cause we know James Magnuson, the missile from Australia, he recently did the trials with you.
Starting point is 00:58:36 He didn't break the world record, but the swimming world record was broken. We'll get into that in a little bit. But how does it work? If I say, yep, I'm an athlete, I wanna do this. Where do I go from here? You guys have a team of doctors around me and we do it work? If I say, yep, I'm an athlete, I want to do this, where do I go from here? You guys have a team of doctors around me and we do it safely? Yeah. So we have a whole medical commission that ensures that athletes are safe to compete.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And that means doing echocardiograms, blood work, MRIs, to make sure that they're healthy to compete. And then we have the best scientists in the world working on this project, including the chairman of genetics at Harvard University, Professor George Church and 38 other members of my scientific panel. What are they taking? They're taking FDA or TGA approved substances. So I would note of the all the banned substances by the Olympics, virtually all of them are legal. And actually, if you
Starting point is 00:59:25 walk into your local GNC, 25% of the goods on the shelf there would get you banned from Olympic competition. So don't conclude illegality with banned. They're two very different things. Although the Olympic Committee would like to make you think it's the same thing. Right. Imagine that Aaron, you have to strip someone from the enhanced games because they're actually taking a substance you've banned. It's funny to think. Is anything banned from the enhanced games? Yeah, illegal stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Nothing is banned, but athletes have to comply with their local and national laws. So for example, in Australia, you couldn't do heroin. In Saudi Arabia, you might not be able to use animal steroids for example, but in the United Kingdom and Portugal and Italy they would be allowed. That's interesting isn't it? It is fascinating. I saw a wild stat. I was watching an interview with you yesterday and
Starting point is 01:00:16 there was a stat that you said that 44% of Olympians have come out saying that they did dope, that they were on these banned substances and that's just the ones that we know about. So is the trade-off of this for people that aren't happy because a lot of people are saying this could ruin sport, how could they do this, is the trade-off everyone's cheating, let's just give cheating in inverted commas, let's just give those people who are cheating or doping a place to do it safely. Yeah, and it's even more important than that because the same compounds that allow athletes to run faster or jump higher will allow all of us to live longer, healthier and happier lives.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Like look at Lance Armstrong. The guy was dying of cancer. Then he won seven Tour de France's, why? Because he was using EPO. And if we were able to use EPO back then, it would be the ozempic of this, of the era, right? You know, it would have been a wonder drug that every middle aged man would be taking. And so performance medicine is really crucially important to making us a better, stronger and faster human population. This isn't just about sport. This is about humanity
Starting point is 01:01:24 writ large. Some of the people I've seen who've come out against the enhanced games have talked about lifelong effects and that there hasn't been enough studies, like longitudinal studies that have done 20, 30 years down the track to safely say what this exposure at this level would do. What do you say back to that? Is that true? I would say that they actually haven't read the science. So, let's not base this on personal anecdotes,
Starting point is 01:01:52 but let's base this on scientific evidence. And the synthesis of testosterone, for example, was awarded the 1939 Nobel Prize. The major compounds that we're talking about, like synthetic growth hormones like testosterone that James used, or anabolic steroids, or EPO have all been around for nearly 100 years. They have very known drug on drug interactions and toxicologies. And ultimately, nearly two and a half percent of men in the United States are present users of testosterone. Six percent of men in the United
Starting point is 01:02:22 Kingdom have used anabolic steroids at some point in their life. And there isn't a population-wide epidemic here, right? There isn't strings of bodybuilders and powerlifters showing up to the ER or showing long-term complications. So the epidemiological evidence is actually very supportive of us. So with things like testosterone, I've never taken it, but my understanding of it, I do know people who have taken it and they preach it. They'll absolutely love it. And I know lots of people even in local gyms just taking it to look and feel good. I'm fascinated by it, particularly
Starting point is 01:02:52 as you do get older and the body doesn't back up as well and you get a bit sore in the morning, it's harder to train, et cetera. With something like testosterone though, is it like your body will then stop producing a certain amount because you're giving it that influx of testosterone, therefore you need to kind of take it forever? It depends. Each person has their own clinical needs. And ultimately, the endogenous production of testosterone can be surmounted by synthetic production of testosterone, but it's only a temporary effect. These interactions are very well known. And according to our research, 85% of men in the United States want to use performance enhancements if they were doctor prescribed and used by champion
Starting point is 01:03:35 athletes. And I would note a comparison in cosmetic enhancement. We feel it's a very normal thing in our society for people, women in particular to become cosmetically enhanced. These are non-therapeutic procedures. There's risk associated with them, but you know, breast augmentation or botox is something that you can get anywhere. So why don't we have the opportunity to use performance medicine in the same way? Is there an argument around children, Aaron? Are you worried about having this conversation with youth who might see, let's for example, say a father does it, who's tried to be an Olympian and always fallen short, starts taking the performance enhancing drugs, can enter the enhanced games.
Starting point is 01:04:19 He's 14 year old son who hasn't actually tested his body starting straight away on performance enhancement drugs. Do you feel the ethical pull when we come, when we talk about children? Yeah. So let's, let's talk about MotoGP, right? So, um, uh, motorcycle racing is extremely dangerous. Riding a motorcycle on the streets is extremely dangerous. 237 times more likely to die driving a motorcycle
Starting point is 01:04:45 than driving a car on a per kilometer basis. Yet we don't view that as somehow setting a bad example to children. Many things in our society are age regulated. Alcohol, driving a car, for example. Yet what are the largest sponsors of sport in Australia, betting and alcohol companies, right? To age gated industries. So performance medicine should be age gated in the same way. OK, so the sports you've got going, you've got track, you've got gymnastics, swimming and some combat sports like boxing's in there, I believe MMA and a few things like that. How will this work? So next year we have the enhanced games in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Is it going to be like an Olympics where it's one week and every day it's televised and we can sort of watch it and you'll even see the athletes when they're taking these supplements or will it just be the races? No, it will be a whole journey of education so that everyone understands what is necessary
Starting point is 01:05:44 and what the scientific and medical procedures are. And actually, you can go onto YouTube right now and look up the Enhanced Games documentary about James Magnuson and Christian Colon's attempt to break the 50 freestyle world record. There's a great one hour documentary that really outlines all of the trials and tribulations, right? Because it's not straightforward to break a world record. And we really want to educate the public
Starting point is 01:06:10 on the promise of science and of medicine. And beyond that, the prize money. Yes, yes. At the top of this, Aaron, you talked about these Olympians who train for their whole lives. They get one shot every four years and might only walk away with quite meager salary, possibly not enough to support themselves, let alone a family. Whereas what are you offering?
Starting point is 01:06:31 We're offering a million dollars to break the significant world records, half a million dollars in prize money in every event, uh, plus appearance fees. So, um, you know, we awarded a million dollars to Christian Coloma for breaking the 50 freestyle world record. That's 10 times more than any other swimming prize ever awarded. And Christian, you know, who was one of the best swimmers in history, in total, in his entire 10 year career, only earned $200,000. So he, you know, he was in tears. He said, Aaron, you're giving me five lifetimes of pay for a 22nd swim. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:03 And so every, you're planning to do these games every year? And so they'd have appearance fees and those fees every year? Yes, every year. And the way we can pay for it is that unlike the Olympics, we don't build dozens of stadiums and throw them away after two weeks. The Olympics are one of the most wasteful exercises in human history. Brisbane is going through that right now. It was promised at zero net cost to the taxpayer. They've already flushed, I think, seven billion dollars of public money into it. And it's a huge waste. And I think there's a better way to do it rather than moving cities every year where we pick Las Vegas as our semi-permanent host city. Did you approach sponsors or did people come to you once they started gaining traction
Starting point is 01:07:44 on a global scale? People came to me and I'm very proud that some of the biggest venture capitalists in the world, Peter Thiel, Christian Engelmeier, Balaji Srinivasan, the Trump family are all investors of ours, right? Because they believe in the future. They know what it takes to change the world. And will you, will this be sort of broadcast on free to air? Are you, are you imagining an online YouTube sort of set up
Starting point is 01:08:05 or you haven't got that far yet? We're intent on making this available and accessible to everyone because we want to educate the world on our scientific mission. So it will be available on all the major streaming platforms. We don't want it paywalled or hard to access. We want to make it accessible to everyone.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Beyond the million dollar prize, so now I just want to make comparisons to the Olympics because it's just what we've grown up, is the elite standard of competition, right? Do they get a medal? Well, what's your ceremony at the end where that old bloke comes out and awkwardly puts the medal over the winner? What will the enhanced games be? We're hoping for something more creative. I take inspiration from the Masters Golf Tournament. They got a cool green jacket. I love the Super Bowl ring.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yeah, I want something that our athletes can wear every day. Not, you know, an Olympic medal is kind of weird. You wear it just at the games, but I want something that our athletes can take every day and wear with pride to show that they're the best in the world. And I think that's a really important point to, to underline, which is that the Olympics were the ultimate avenue of human competition. But now we have the preeminent world record in swimming, we only need to break the world record in, in, um, on the a hundred meter in the track, the mile and the marathon. And then I think we're the ultimate avenue of human competition. And who's going to want to watch the old slow Olympics when you can watch the fast modern enhanced games.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Well, it's that movie with Ewan McGregor and it's like, he's the human and everyone's enhanced, but then he races the enhanced guy. Can you get Usain Bolt to race your guy? Yeah, can you get that? And we can do the side by side. The comparisons. Well, yes. Well, I actually would like to see someone like the same Bolt or Michael Phelps or Ian Thorpe come back 20 years later and break their own records.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Oh, interesting. Who paid millions of dollars for that. Interesting. Right. Because that will say so much more about what it means to be enhanced and who's going to want to be a human 1.0 when human 2.0s exist. So would you say this could either destroy the Olympics or can they both live in the same sort of ecosystem where the Olympics is the non-enhanced games and that's the best of the best non-enhanced and then yours aims to be the fastest, the best in the enhanced games. I don't think they can actually coexist because as humans, we only want to watch the very best.
Starting point is 01:10:30 No one watches minor league ball, everyone watches major league ball. No one watches F2, everyone watches F1. And so if we're the fastest competition, the viewers, sponsors, the broadcasters will all gravitate towards us and the Olympics will become like the Commonwealth Games. It'll be this niche kind of interesting thing
Starting point is 01:10:50 that was important in the past, but is just too expensive to put on. And we know this, you know, with Premier Andrews in Victoria, the Commonwealth Games don't exist anymore just because they were not a very good business model. Yeah. Now on the Olympics, I'm gonna use that,
Starting point is 01:11:04 they are very wasteful and Brisbane is going through that now and there's all sorts of issues. They are trying to reuse stadiums and now they're gonna have to make another one, blah blah blah. I understand how much it costs, but the one thing that the Olympics does do well for cities is the tourism and the eyeballs it puts on that city, albeit only for a couple of weeks or a month or so. If the games are only in Vegas, would you say, because Vegas doesn't need help tourism-wise, would you say that's one area you're losing out or would you look at if it does get big enough, moving it city to city if capable? Yeah, so we've had a lot of interest from other cities of the world, particularly in the Middle East, who are very interested in hosting us. However,
Starting point is 01:11:39 the economics that are presented for hosting the Olympic Games aren't actually true. You only need to look at Athens 2004 that bankrupted the country of Greece and effectively started the 2008 financial crisis. Rio 2016, it's actually, you know, when Sydney bid to host the Olympics for the 2000 games, there were nearly 20 cities in there running to host and now there are virtually none. Yeah, and that's why Brisbane, you know Got it like Brisbane got it without anyone want it. No one else wanted it interesting Yeah, I'm just so fascinated I'm so fast because I'm so intrigued by this and I will watch it. Do not get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I'll watch it. But that part of you still can't sort of comprehend it. Yeah. When you've got all these antidoping and anti- and I probably am doing that Aaron, blurring the line of what's legal criminally and what's legal in a sporting world. And as someone who's on the periphery of the sporting world as he's, I've blurred those two. It feels so hard to comprehend. And you've obviously been working on this for so long, Aaron, you're like laying out
Starting point is 01:12:52 all the facts so elegantly, but it is hard to wrap your head around, isn't it? For something we've been told for so long, we'll strip your reputation, get your gold medal taken off you, you'll be slammed in the media, you're not a role model anymore. You lose, yeah. Now you're saying we're building a million dollar competition around all those things. It is, it is hard. It's a hard pill to swallow. Pardon the pun.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah, but just think about Airbnb, right? We take Airbnb to be such a sort of common thing these days. We don't even question it. Imagine the concept just 10, maybe 15 years ago. You said, instead of staying in a hotel, you're going to stay in a stranger's house. I know, but I'm not putting that stranger's stuff in my blood. Yeah, yeah, it's not injecting yourself with it. You know what I mean? It doesn't.
Starting point is 01:13:33 It came pretty close. I appreciate from a business understanding, but yeah, it's hard to grapple with. All great visions of the future are a little bit challenging at the start. And you know Uber, the same thing. You would get into a stranger's car instead of taking a safe legal taxi cab. Remember Uber was illegal practically everywhere in the world for its first few years of operation. So then if we go to athletes you're going to target, right? Do you approach athletes and say, hey, this is happening next year, let's go right to the Olympics, let's look at the 100 meter winner, the American, his name's lost me right
Starting point is 01:14:10 now. Noah Lyles. Noah Lyles, yeah. Noah, do you look at Noah and go, hey, come over, or is he approaching you? Because you'd need some big ticket names in order to sort of start this up. Well, you know, we do have the 50 freestyle world record now, the most important record in swimming. And it's really the only question is, you know, the hundred meter world record.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Noah, for example, ran a very quick time in Paris, but he's nowhere near Usain Bolt's world record. You couldn't even remember his name, right? He's not even in the same realm of fame as Usain Bolt. So what if he could enhance, break, uh, same bolts world record. And I would note of the top 10, a hundred meter times ever, eight of them have had a doping violation attached to them. So effectively every a hundred meter champion bar is same bolt,
Starting point is 01:14:58 uh, has been doping. What's been the split of interest from women, Aaron? Has it been mainly men? I imagine it's interesting. So younger men are very interested in what we are doing, but older women are fascinated by our endeavour because they see, you know, maybe getting closer to menopause, having gone through aging challenges in a different way. And hormone replacement therapy is much more normal among women than it is among men.
Starting point is 01:15:28 So the demographics are important to look at. Hmm, okay. And then sports like running, swimming, races, no one's getting physically harmed when you're doing it. But then sports like MMA and boxing, where people are enhancing, I know they're all enhancing, but then is there another level of-
Starting point is 01:15:45 Oh, damage that could be done? Correct, yeah. If you've got a supercharged kick, Exactly. Could you kill me? And I know, yeah, well, but I know your enhance is different to mine, but could that then literally get in the ring and actually kill someone
Starting point is 01:15:57 with that level of damage that they can inflict? Well, I would say that in the first year of the enhanced games, games were not including combat sports That's the okay aim to be included in future years Okay, but I would note that a UFC for the first decade of its operations did not have any drug testing It was only until it was acquired by By IMG that it was that drug testing began because it was the goal was to find the ultimate fighter No, no rules. No weight classes, no drug testing.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Find the best fighter of all time. Okay. All right. Well, there you go. Well, it's fascinating. Dr. Aaron D'Souza, president of the Enhance Games. This is happening next year in Vegas. I'm intrigued to see it all unfold and what athletes you get across as well. Totally. And as you said, those names that potentially come across to break their own records, maybe someone who comes out of retirement, or this next generation of athletes.
Starting point is 01:16:49 They'd be banned from the Olympics, right? If they go, if they do this and they're a current Olympian, they're not allowed to then go back to the Olympics. In fact, not. So an athlete could retire from Olympic competition, compete in the enhanced games, and then go back and do it in the competition. However, I would also note that natural athletes are very welcome to come and compete. I think it would make for great television if a natural athlete said,
Starting point is 01:17:13 hey, I can beat all these enhanced guys, just like in the MacGregor movie, Katika. Katika, that's the one, thank you. That would have bugged me the whole time. So do you not compete under your country's flag, Aaron? Do you compete under a natural flag or an enhanced flag? You know, they don't play your anthem. If you win, you get to pick a song. Well, I know we're on radio, but you can see I'm wearing an enhanced jumper. Yes, the E with a plus. That'll be the fan.
Starting point is 01:17:38 That's our logo there. However, we believe that nationalism is a bit of a dying concept. If you're walking down certain streets in Melbourne or Sydney, I don't think you can wear an Australian flag in the same way you could 20 years ago. Here in New York City, wearing an American flag would make you very Republican. So our aim is to be more like tennis. So instead of Team USA and big letters, it's Novak Djokovic of Serbia, small flag. I see. There you go.
Starting point is 01:18:09 You've just taken every concept. How can we flip that? How can we flip that? How can we flip that? I'm intrigued to see where it runs. Yeah. Sorry, one more question before we let you go. Have you tried any of the stuff that your athletes are on?
Starting point is 01:18:18 Like have you sampled it or are you doing it yourself? Yeah, so I've used a great many substances and procedures that are on the water ban list. I always say, you know, I don't give clinical advice. Go talk to your own doctor. But just one example I would give is, you know, I often suffer from jet lag and I would get an IV drip, intravenous, you know, saline injection. And I get a stunt at Harrods in London you know the fancy department store. So buy a blazer and get an IV drip. Yeah why not. Yeah exactly yeah and I was talking to one of my medical commissioners and he said oh that's actually a banned procedure
Starting point is 01:18:57 under the world anti-doping code because it's used to mask uh the use of performance enhancements so even something that's so simple and commonplace that you can get it done at the Herons can get you banned from the Olympic competition. That's better than this band, isn't it? Yeah. It's different levels of it. Like a former rugby team sport now moving forward probably opens up more questions about the level everyone does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there's so much to it. But Aaron, thank you so much for your time.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Appreciate it. It really, really interesting. We could keep you on for another half an hour, but you've probably got another 15 interviews lined up today. I do. Thank you very much for having me on the show. Appreciate it, Aaron. Thanks, mate. Good luck with it all. Bye bye. Jess and Ducko in the morning. Jess and Ducko's 2k alpha box on hit. Alpha box. Yes! You have 30 seconds, 10 questions, all starting with the same letter. Have to take your first answer. You cannot use the same answer twice. If you're unsure of the question, say pass.
Starting point is 01:19:56 We'll come back at this time. We're playing for 10k. This went off week one. We were back on together. Show one. That's right, Jen. Have we seen her laundry yet? Oh no. I'm sick of asking. Goddammit, Jen. Have we seen her laundry yet? I'm sick of asking! She said she wanted to do a laundry, Renault, and we said, well you've won, so it's not like we can take it off you, but we'd love to see the before. Don't leave us after you win the money, how dare you! She's just left us on red. Took the money and ran. You know who wouldn't do that?
Starting point is 01:20:20 You reckon Mel? I reckon Mel. Do you know Mel? Oh no, I feel like I know Mel. You know her character. We all sort of know a Mel, don't we? We do. My best mate Mel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:28 She's the one who cleansed my pelvic bowl. Mel, Mel, non-pelvic bowl cleansing Mel, who's on the phone right now, would you cleanse Jess' pelvic bowl for 10k? Absolutely. That's the attitude of a Mel. Everyone's bestie. Everyone likes a Mel. Ah, look, my Mel would probably spend the 10 grand on new equipment to clean other pelvic bowls.
Starting point is 01:20:48 My Mel would go and put it all on red. Oh, well what would this Mel do is the question. I'm going to say I would pay my bills. We are poor. Okay. This Mel's poor. This Mel has her priorities straight. She's not going to make frivolous purchases or blow it all on red.
Starting point is 01:21:06 She gonna take care of business. And that's her prerogative. I love it. Mel, it's wonderful to have you with us. Are you ready to take this 10 grand office? I'm ready, I'm so ready. Good girl. Well, it's a great omen, babe.
Starting point is 01:21:19 A great omen. Your letter's M. Oh, that's a good one, okay. Great omen. M for Mel. that's a good one. Okay. M for Mel. And money. I have money. Yep.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Money, money, money. Ready, Mel? I'm ready. Your time will start after the first question. Starting with the letter M. We need you to name a fruit. Mango. An animal.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Monkey. Something in the house. Money. A country. Monkey. Something in the house. Money. A country. Morocco. An adjective. Making. A type of cheese.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Path. A periodic element. Path. An app. Path. A colour. Move. A car brand. A type of cheese. Oh, well. We were doing well.
Starting point is 01:22:08 5 out of 5 to kick us off. Then we sort of fell apart there. A type of cheese could have been a mozzarella. I literally, literally just posted a video about mozzarella. Only you would do that. 15 minutes ago. Now why were you not on Jess's Instagram 15 minutes ago? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:24 I was just going to say that. I was just going to say that. I literally, literally just posted a video about mozzarella. Only you would do that. 15 minutes ago. Now why were you not on Jess's Instagram 15 minutes ago? Oh no, sorry. That could have helped. We can lead a horse to water, we can't make a drink Mel. You can't.
Starting point is 01:22:35 A periodic element could have been magnesium, an app could have been messenger, menu log or maps even. A car brand I think we'd given up then, Mazda or Mitsubishi, look Mel you don't get the cash but you do get $100 to spend online at Trady Underwear. Oh perfect, thank you so much. Thank you Mel, I mean it's not paying your bills but at least you don't have to fork out any cash for some new undies. Absolutely, thank you so much. Pleasure to have you on. Good to chat, good to speak to you Mel. Really nice. You too. We play again tomorrow maybe with Amel maybe with someone else. Yeah and maybe we'll get that video from Jen. Who's to say? God damn Jen. I've never I've never
Starting point is 01:23:10 disliked anyone more who's won Alpha Bucks. Oh no there was that anti-bac son. Oh yeah yeah yeah. I was a wild guy. Yeah and Jen I'll like you again if you just give set us a video. That's all we ask. That's all I'm asking. Because she commented on her own video on our socials being like I'm the best. Oh guys sorry. Oh. That's all I'm asking. Cause she commented on her own video on our socials being like, I'm the best. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, geez. I will get you.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Like she acknowledged. What did she actually want again? The bathroom. She wanted the bathroom. She said my laundry. Laundry. She goes, my laundry is atrocious. I want new tiles.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I want new this. Well, come on. Come on. Speaking of atrociousness. Yeah, what you're wearing today. Ah ha. Coming Queensland Jersey on. We need to get down to business next team.
Starting point is 01:23:44 State of origin, mate versus mate, state versus state. My daughter's first origin. Yeah, actually it's not what you're wearing today. Coming Queensland Jersey on. We need to get down to business next team. State of origin, mate vs. mate, state vs. state. My daughter's first origin. Yeah, actually, it's not what you're wearing. It's how your parenting is atrocious. The forceful nature with which you've... You've stepped into this role. How dare you insult my parenting at six weeks in. I'm calling docs.
Starting point is 01:24:02 She's a blob still and you're insulting my parents any social workers out there she still poos herself regularly and you're insulting my parenting well well well she actually pooed in the bath he gave me yesterday while we're giving her a bath. Oh you can keep that brother. Jess and Daco. My goodness, lead's in the pencil. I want to talk about bravery. There was a passage I read in the Game of Thrones many years ago. A conversation between a father and his son.
Starting point is 01:24:26 The son asked the question, is it possible for a man to still be considered brave when on the inside he's truly afraid? To which his father replied, when you're truly afraid, that's the only time a man can be brave. Let's steer on these brave souls and let's hope they can be origin players tonight. Enjoy your football. Woohoo! Come on, someone give me something in this room.
Starting point is 01:24:52 You're not surrounded by sports fans. Shy Guy, come on. Shy Guy's wearing his blues out here. I told you that was a happy accident. Babs, give me something. Come on. No, they suck. Babs give me something! Come on! No, they suck. Blue sun. Careful Babs, it's pink. It's blues. Blues? Not the blues.
Starting point is 01:25:14 It's Origin Day baby. And we actually have a double pass to see game three of the women tomorrow. Correct. Tonight is obviously game one for the gentlemen. Were they playing up north? Yeah, tonight. Yeah, Suncorp. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:28 So this is what I wanted to get into, right? Not so much about the game itself, but about the origin of support for my newborn daughter who's six weeks old. I've been sent from two rice cookers, different rice cookers, onesies, Queensland onesies, because obviously I'm a Queenslander, that's where I'm from, live here now, yadda yadda. My husband is very offended. Yeah. Because he also gave Florence one.
Starting point is 01:25:46 He did. He's will fit tomorrow. He's tonight, sorry. He's will fit. Oh, so I think he picked like the four zeros. Have people given you to grow into? Yeah, one a little bit too big. That's next year's.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Which is smart. Yeah, yeah. Best and last. Got a great range for origins. Obviously. So I'll wear that one tonight. It's his birthday, slash we're going to the pub. But a lot of people have said to me, well, no, your daughter's born in New South Wales.
Starting point is 01:26:03 So she goes to New South Wales. And I said, well, hang on a minute. She's mine. You know, as you, as you stated, I did say she comes from Queensland. I gave you this great ammo. She got tell everyone she comes from, she was made in a Petri dish. She was made in the lab. But here on New South Wales soil. But my test is, no disrespect, like it was IVF. Like that's how they do it. Yeah? Yeah, that's how they do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was.
Starting point is 01:26:27 She was. Shout out to the scientists. I think the scientists were Queenslanders. I'm not 100%- Oh now that's a quick- Where was the pipette- I'm pretty sure they'd flown in from Queensland. I actually wanted to-
Starting point is 01:26:36 The equipment was from Taiwan. So technically, no safe- Okay, so she doesn't like it at all. Anyway, my point is, I am a Queenslander, so is my wife. My whole family have been there, whatever. He keeps walking into all. Anyway, my point is, I am a Queenslander, so is my wife, my whole family, been there, whatever. It keeps walking into it. Yeah, she loves it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I mean, if you're up there, you're into it. You know what I mean? So we're staunch Queenslanders. Now I've got the onesies for her, she has no choice. If she wasn't to go for my club team, I'd understand that more. I get that. But with state of origin, I really just,
Starting point is 01:27:01 I would give her away if she didn't go for Queensland. You may, I love this child. I would give her away. You didn't go for Queensland. I love this child. You made an excellent... You see a kid on Teemu. You made a point. I'm joking. It was a joke. It was a joke.
Starting point is 01:27:12 He's having a laugh. Loves it. Now that she's smiling at him, you feel the connection. You made a point the other day, when it was yesterday, nothing gets you fired up in the sporting realm because you, you're cross-coded. I lost one. You're NFL, you're golf, you're doubling the basketball in the sporting realm because you, you cross cut. You're NFL, you're golf, you're doubling the basketball, the F1, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, AFL, yeah. State of origin though, and obviously NRL and AFL.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah, yeah. But state of origin holds pride of place for you. It's just a special play. It's a special three games. It's a special, beautiful part of the year. I can't, everyone becomes the worst version of themselves when they watch that game games. It's a special, beautiful part of the year. Everyone becomes the worst version of themselves when they watch that game because you're just so passionate about it. So the gravity of your firstborn following your footsteps and donning the maroon is important to
Starting point is 01:27:59 you. But we know there are many households. Maybe one parent originates from the Sunshine State, but the other from New South Wales. What do you do when there is a split in the household? How do you work it out? How do you work it out? Good friends of mine, Nick and Lana, they're first born. Now they're big AFL fans, but Lana's family, Stor Collingwood. Nick's family staunched Carlton. So for the first born, how do you decide who is going to barrack for? While Lana was still pregnant, they went to a Collingwood-Carlton match. With all the in-laws, so both sorts of grandparents are there.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Oh wow, that's a huge, there's nothing more on the line, that's bigger than a grand final. It was like the wedding table, it was like Lana and her family on one side, all in Collingwood. All hating each other. Nick and his family in Carlton. And the outcome of the game, and there was to be no squabbling or crying or do-overs, the outcome of this game would denote the baby's team. Carlton took it out. Oh, that would hurt so much.
Starting point is 01:29:00 So now, mummy has to sit through the boys. See the difference is, for our household, Morgan and me are both Queensland. But, 13, 10, 60, how do you pick your kids to? How do you pick? Because now there's questions raised for you. Can you just force them? My dad tried to force me to barrack for Collingwood
Starting point is 01:29:16 growing up, but then I had a crush on my year three teacher, came home and said, I barrack for us and didn't now. You brat, you absolute. My dad's never really forgiven me. I wouldn't, once again, you'd be on Teemu. 131060. How do you do it? How do you bag for them?
Starting point is 01:29:29 How do you pick your kid's team? That's right. Have you been in this exact situation, maybe with State of Origin? Yeah, maybe did your kid go rogue? Oh, jeez. And go, I'm not going to go for your team. Dad. What a rogue kid.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Don't sell me. Jess and Ducco. Jess and Ducco. State of Origin, Dave. We're fired up in this year. Well, at least I am. The other three are just, yeah. Jess and Daco. Jess and Daco. State of Origin Day. We're fired up in this year. Well, at least I am. The other three are just, yep.
Starting point is 01:29:50 I get more upset when you mispronounce Brashooter. Like, do we have different passions? Yeah. But today, it could be your day if the, if the Maroons pull through for you. Maroons pull through for you. But it is game one. Yep. Mate versus mate. State versus state. Let's set the scene. Origin Day. Origin Day. I'm a Queenslander. I was going to say,, but it is game one. Yeah. It's mate versus mate, state versus state.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Let's set the scene. Origin Day. Origin Day, I'm a Queenslander. I was going to say please don't play Phil Gould again. I can't, I can't listen. Oh, you want Phil Gould again? I want to talk about bravery. I'm not going to play the full 30 seconds.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Thanks so much. One of the great vlogs. Origin Day, I'm a Queenslander. My wife is a Queenslander. Flo, my daughter, obviously born in New South Wales. And I stupidly brought it to the top of your mind that your sperm also originates from... Me, Queensland. Queensland testes. Thus, should she technically originate from Queensland, however, she popped out of that canal on New South Wales soil.
Starting point is 01:30:42 I caught her though. Queensland hands caught her. You shouldn't have done that hands on hands. If Godfrey's hands were the first to touch her, would that have counted? Shout out to my obstetrician. I got a great message from Peter, one of the great Ras Cookers. Yes, Peter. We love Pete. He said, it's wherever Flo plays her first competitive game. So plenty of Queensland players born in New South Wales and vice versa, which is
Starting point is 01:31:03 how it's done for the actual thing. That's right. That's right. So she was to play, I cannot wait until she plays her first competitive game to then pick this stage for her. Well this is the issue, what are you going to do? Sign her up to local NRL little league in Queensland? I'll drive to the border, that's exactly what I'll do, I'll drive to the border and get her up there. That's exactly what will happen do. Oh, you know I would do that. And she'll hate every second. That ain't that stupid. I'm gonna do that. He'll make her hate sport, hate me. I'd like to be a gamer now, dad. Can I go back to my room?
Starting point is 01:31:33 Alexis, on 13 1060, how'd you pick your kids, team? What's happened to you? So, look, Ducco, I just want to prepare you. We are a New South Wales family through and through. We tried the old, you live here, if you don't go for them, you move out. I have a rogue eight year old who is a maroon supporter all day of the week. So be prepared. Just out of nowhere decided, nah, I'm going for the opposition, mum. 100%. Wow. Do you think it's because you guys were so staunch New South Walesmen that they just wanted to rebel?
Starting point is 01:32:09 No, because we're also Nights fans and he picked the Raiders when he got a bit older. So, John Papalini. He's responsible for well-bred. Oh yes, Queensland Papalini. He played for Queensland and that's it. All over. Oh jeez. See, this is the fine line, you gotta dance.
Starting point is 01:32:23 If you push too hard, they'll walk away. I know and nothing would hurt you more than that. And it's very much stand, you gotta have a level of pride there standing on your own two feet. You know what I mean? A bit of autonomy. Yeah. Honestly nothing would. Or I sell ya. Or your team move. Thank you Alexis. Amy on 13 10 60. Good morning to you Amy. Good morning Justin Duckoo. Ah Amy, how did you
Starting point is 01:32:45 pick your kids team? We let them decide when they got to five years old. And how did you do it? Did you present them with a jersey of each team or? We gave them a poster of each team and we said which would you like to do? They are born in Queensland but they've been raised in New South Wales and we said who would you like to go for? My daughter and my been raised in New South Wales. And we said, who would you like to go for? My daughter and my son both chose New South Wales. Cause they were raised there. Because let's, let's be real as much as it doesn't help me being raised there
Starting point is 01:33:14 feels more like you're from there as opposed to where you're. Tell them, I mean you were born where you're born. And you've not mentioned the dockers once. I left Perth at three weeks old. Okay. So I don't really know Perth. I tell people I've never been. Your passport would disagree.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Keira, now you've got one of these scenarios, Keira, a split household. We do. So I am born in Queensland from Mackay. I was raised in New South Wales. I moved to Newcastle. My partner is a Sydney supporter and so our children both go for the blues because there's absolutely no way they would ever go for Queensland. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:53 But you're from Mackay. That's as Queensland as they get. Yep. And the kicker is my youngest son Benji is named after Benji Marshall. That's an avid Tigers supporter and he goes for the Knights. Oh wow, that's a- see I don't want that. I want my household unified. I don't want this flip floppy, everyone's wearing different jerseys. Oh but see if you push too hard they'll flip on their own. That's a- that's a balancing act. It feels like there's no rules for this but you've always got
Starting point is 01:34:20 to be prepared for disappointment. Absolutely. Emma on 13 6 E, how'd you pick your kids team, Emma? So I'm with you, Ducko. So my parents, my dad's originated from Queensland. My mum's actually was born in New Zealand. So when New South Wales and Queensland, I've been raised up to follow Queensland. But then when Australia and New Zealand play, I've been raised to follow New Zealand. I have actually five year old water and she is blues obsessed because that's what dad follows.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Oh, so that's what dad follows. He got her. From New South Wales and we're a big night supporter because obviously we're in New Castle and my daughter absolutely loves the nights. But yeah, hubby hubby is blues through and through, and she's now following dad's footsteps, but we've now got a 14 month old, so hopefully I might be able to. Okay. One kiddie. Oh yeah, you've got to do that.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Emma, do you reckon your husband was, you know, I'll do the bedtime story in the lead up to Origin and just telling, you know, fairy tales and spinning yarns about how good New South Wales got in her ear. Yeah, because that's what I'll be doing. Like, you know, the knight in shining blue armour defeated the maroon dragon. You know, you can warp a kid's mind. You should write that. I'm working on a kid's book. I'll work that in.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Harley, wrap us up here, Harley. How are you going? Harley, you got a split in the household as well brother? Yeah, I do but at NRL, so we just had whatever team wins the Grand Final, it just happened to be the same year that my team won the Grand Final first order and the other two, the Wives team. Okay. I see.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Alright, so you know, whoever reigns supreme, the kids will follow. Yeah that year, so the first year the Sharks won Grand Fornus and my daughter goes to the sharks. She loves it. There you go. Okay, so... The penny panthers we call them, one glass to the youth. So in that theory then, it's whoever wins... Well, she doesn't know what's going on this one, but whoever wins the origin for this one...
Starting point is 01:36:20 But I was about to say, are you willing to put your daughter's future on the line, Ducco? Do we look at this series as her first origin? Whoever takes 2025 origin out will be Flo's team. Honestly, I just, I don't think so. I just want her to go for Queensland. I'm going to ask you that question every single year until we can ask Flo herself. You know, what do you say to that? I, yeah, okay. And I'll make sure we save this audio about you selling her on TV.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Description went for New South Wales. What do you say to that? I... yeah, okay. And I'll make sure we save this audio about you selling her on TV. Hahaha! She defies you! Description went for New South Wales! Jess and Ducco. I reckon producer Shy Guy's having a glass of milk. Glass of milk and a little biscuit, aren't you? My milk, my milk, my milk. Shy Guy dips. I'm so excited, I want Shy Guy's box.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Just when you thought Wednesdays couldn't get any bigger, well we are here to prove you wrong. It is time for Shy Guy Dips. At the very exciting time of 8.40, usually we play this at 7am, but... Katy Perry wanted 7am with the 7am time slot, so if this is your first time hearing Dippy Dippy Shy Guy... Wow, we can have some new audience for this Shy Lord. Welcome to the party! New players.
Starting point is 01:37:24 That's right, Shy Guy's gonna give us a series of clues about a box of cereal he holds in his hot tub. Wow, we can have some new audience for this Shy Lord. Welcome to the party! New players! That's right, Shy Guy's gonna give us a series of clues about a box of cereal. He holds in his hot little hands. If you can decipher those clues, not only do you win an unopened box of said cereal, you get some bespoke JD merch. You get Jizz Bit, bang, these things are hot property. You get a fridge magnet and a new bottle opener. Hell yeah, you do. And let's be real, you get the glory.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Oh, the glory. You're in an elite pool of people who have won Shy Guy dips. Absolutely. You only play it once a week, there are only so many opportunities. Now, Shy Guy's good at some things, but explaining them not one of his strengths.
Starting point is 01:37:56 So he explains it pretty poorly, how this is gonna work if you're new here. He'll give you a clue right now, we'll ask you to call in. You'll get another clue if you're first cab off the range. And that isn't even an elite-apool that's not a word two people in history have gotten it first clue. That's an elitapool I've ever heard of it. Amen. So 13 10 60 pick up the phone but that first clue please Mr. Guy.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Your first clue is two words. I'm starting to think of serials with two words. But last week we did Sultana brand, so it's not gonna be that. It can't be. Unless. Hey, that's a bonus clue in itself. Oooh, okay. Or is it? You've had one and a half clues.
Starting point is 01:38:33 One and a half. 13, 10, 60, what do you think it is? Rack em up, stack em up, Babs, it's Shy Guy Dips. Jess and Ducco. Jess and Ducco. I reckon producer Shy Guy's having and favourite cereal game. Sponsored by Kellogg's. Kinda.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Asterix. Sort of was. We're open to it. They did. Kinda. The stakes couldn't be higher. You get to win a packet of was. We're open to it. They did, kinda. The stakes couldn't be higher. You get to win a packet of cereal, some bespoke JD merch, but the glory of walking away saying I speak shy Guyanese.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I could decipher those weird clues. Yeah, he's got a lot of strength, but explaining things and descriptions, not one of them. We've been playing this game for close to 18 months and he has not gotten any better at clue giving. No, he hasn't. I think he's gotten worse. And you know what, if he had gotten better the game probably would come to an end. It would be the end of the world, says Miley. Hannah.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Morning Hannah. Good morning. Hannah, we've heard it's two words. However, you get a supplementary clue. I'm an IDA. Your supplementary clue is it contains six vitamins and minerals. Oh hot damn. Wow. He's not going to tell you which six. Not three, not four, six. Six. You would have stung me if I had done that. Yes, ducko. Sorry Hannah, don't mind us. Over to
Starting point is 01:40:03 you. What do you reckon? I'm gonna go with my original guess, which was crunchy nuts. That's two words. That is two words. I'm not sure about the vitamins and the minerals. I don't know the crunchy nut vitamin minerals, but it's not crunchy nuts, sorry Hannah. So we go to Taylor.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Hello, Taylor. Hi. Tay Tay, another clue. Yeah? We'll give you a clue, yeah. Taylor, it's not a chocolatey cereal. Oh! Passive!
Starting point is 01:40:28 Uh oh, uh oh! Is it Sultana brand? Did we have that and Jess gave that as a clue already? I genuinely said we had Sultana brand last week. But my favourite thing is when the rice cookers guess the ones that have been before. It's all fun. And you know what? Let them do it.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Taylor has embarrassed herself and her family now and she's gonna have to try again next week. Catherine, good morning to you. Oh good morning, I think I don't know. We'll give you another clue, we'll give you another clue. Okay. Alright Catherine, I reckon... Oh he's pulled it out of the bag, out of the box. How many do you reckon are in here? Oh mate! Two thousand? Yeah, more than that. Maybe more, maybe like ten thousand? Maybe ten thousand are in there. Catherine, two words, not a chocolatey cereal, six vitamins and minerals and potentially
Starting point is 01:41:15 ten thousand of the cereal in the bag. What is it? Okay, my original guess is going to be Milo Flakes. Okay. Do you reckon there's 10,000? We've eliminated that with the chocolate. I'm going for Iron Plus. That's a guess we've never had so I pay that.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Is it Iron Plus? Thank you, Catherine. I got lightheaded at the gym the other day and my PT went, you need more iron. I've got to go find this cereal, Catherine. I imagine Iron Plus cereal doesn't have much iron in it I'd imagine but I don't know Sarah good morning to you Sarah. Hi how are you? So good thanks babe it's not iron plus it's not sultana brand and it's not crunchy night. Oh hang on Sarah we'll give you another clue, but hold that thought. Shall I go? Go. The box is blue. Oh!
Starting point is 01:42:08 He's walked you to the oasis. Now drink, Sarah. Rice bubbles. Wait a minute, did you say rice bubbles? Yes! Yes! Do you reckon there's 10,000 bubbles in there, Sarah? Let's Google that.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Babs, Google it. I want to know how many bubbles are in the rice bubbles box. What are you doing today? Can't000 bubbles in there, Sarah? I think there is. Let's Google that. Babs, Google it. I want to know how many bubbles are in the rice bubbles box. What are you doing today? Can't you count? Actually, yeah, I'll count them. You've got time. I've got the in-laws here.
Starting point is 01:42:32 I may as well count them. Show them what I do. Take them home to Robin and go, hey. This is work. I'm busy. This is what I do. Don't just, oh, hang on. You talk to me.
Starting point is 01:42:40 I've got to start again. One, two. Hey, Sarah. Congratulations. You have got a unopened box of rice bubbles coming your way and a bunch of other stuff. I just need one thing from Sarah please. Sarah we're gonna need a nice crisp clear hi my name's Sarah and I'm so
Starting point is 01:42:59 excited I just won Shy Guy's box. Okay hold on Sarah you've got the line there. We're all ready. Shagapullit pants, rolling camera. Sound. Babs rolling sound. Sarah, take one. Action.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Hi, my name is Sarah and I won Shy Guy's box. Oh, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Jeez, budget. Okay, we are rolling over. Jess, can you take it again? With pleasure. Hi, my name's Sarah and I'm so excited. I just won Shy Guy's box. Let's go again, people. Places. Sarah, my name's Sarah and I'm so excited I just won Shy Guy's box.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Let's go again people, places, Sarah, perform and action. Hi, my name's Sarah and I'm so excited I won Shy Guy's box. Geez, there's a just in there. We can't have the just Sarah. We need, we need the sense of continuity. Hold on, just one more time. Hi, my name's Sarah and I'm so excited. I just won shy guys box When we do the compilation at the end of the year Sarah, I don't want you to feel silly because yours isn't the same. Sarah, I need you to take this seriously, okay? This is serious. Do you want it again?
Starting point is 01:44:13 I'm gonna want it too, because you know I've forgotten it. Hi. Hi, my name's Sarah and I'm so excited, I just won Shy Guy's box. Go. Action. Hi, my name is Sarah and I'm so excited I just won Shy Guy's box. Yeah let's get out of here. Jess and Ducco. Finding out as well from Babs that Benson Boone's getting cancelled by the youth because he does backflips. Oh my god. I believe the phrase was oh get a new trick if you knew how to do a backflip, you'd be doing him 24-7 as well. I liked Benson Boone too, I thought he was cool. I think he's an excellent performer, he's got great songs and again show off dem skills bro.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Yeah. Flip, flip boy. You do you man. Well said ducko. Thanks so much. Been a show, been a show. If you missed it, grab it on the podcast. Lots of light and shade. We interviewed the Enhance Games CEO, Dr. Aaron D'Souza. President, sorry. Yeah, yeah. President, yeah, yeah. Founder.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Well, he was, but he wasn't. Yeah, and to be fair, we asked him about the genesis of the idea, and he goes, this is another bloke's idea 20 years ago, but it never got off the ground. Yeah. I'm finally getting it off the ground. He's got some huge money behind him. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Look, all these things need cash obviously, but he's offering millions of dollars to break records, to just be involved, for appearance fees. They want to put the Olympics to shame. They want to break every Olympic record. If you want to hear the full unedited 25 minute chat, it is on ListenUp, wherever you get your podcasts, Jess and Darko, look that one up. It's enlightening. And we'd love to hear your take on it, your thoughts thoughts on it I found it really hard to argue with him he has a good point Sydney yeah and just the way he's thought of it from a business model and then from a scientific model about this isn't just about performance
Starting point is 01:45:54 it's actually about human longevity yeah it's gonna be interesting also the take that lots of people in the Olympic Games are doping anyway I know is it 44% and everyone else is basically well a lot of other people would be lying. Yeah yeah. Why? So yeah go listen to the chat and then hit us up on the socials on the text line or on the Facebook. On the Facebook. Whatever you want to do it. Um but if you missed any show always great where you get your podcast. Excellent show today team from everyone. Really stepped up. Babs left for about 45 minutes to get Maccas but then she came back. Maccas are doing origin boxes but only they only have blue available. So you wait till tomorrow to get Maccas but then she came back. Maccas are doing origin boxes but
Starting point is 01:46:25 only they only have blue available. So you wait till tomorrow to get your big Mac meal. Which is nice from them not to give me one because I'm gonna... They didn't rub it in your face. That's fair. You know? Yeah that's fair. We're all getting together tonight. Oh you got Easter coming. I don't think Angus invited them. Oh I was gonna say yeah yeah I was actually gonna ask that off there but... Angus is his birthday tomorrow and he thought what a great way... So uncomfortable now. Yeah, there's a lot of people and a lot of passionate sports fans.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Well, Shy Guy Babs, you guys can come. It's just a pub. I've got plans. You've got your boyfriend... I'm on the Central Coast tonight. Oh, okay. What are you doing down there? What are you doing minding cats? Well, sort of. I've got to get the dog's, mum's dog's groomed. And then we're going to have dinner afterwards because I don't see it very often.
Starting point is 01:47:03 No one can do a tick treatment like Shy Guy. No, I'm not doing it. I have to take them to the place. He's your next guard. I want my dog's anal glands expressed. He's the anal gland expresser. Him and Pez. Shy Guy, are you... So what are you doing in the Central Coast?
Starting point is 01:47:16 Can we talk about it tomorrow? Yeah, there's nothing to talk about. Babs peeled back the curtain on the red flag in a relationship this week. What are you doing for us? What are you bringing? Getting her mom's dogs clean. I want to hear about that. That's riveting. Between 6 10 and 6 20 tomorrow. Join us. I hope something interesting happens. Get yourself ready. Babs, good luck to your boyfriend's birthday tonight. Any plans? We're just watching the state of origin, probably having GYG. Does he like GYG as much as you do? Because that feels like a Babs order.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Yeah, well he did say it and I said, really? You want GYG for dinner? And he's like, yeah. And I was like, okay. You know what this is, Ducco? Sucking up. He knows he's in the bad books. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Because he booked the boys trip to Europe leaving his girlfriend behind. Oh yeah, of course we'll get GYG, your favourite food on my birthday. I love burritos for dinner. Honey? Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Did you call your honey? Do you have a nickname? What are the young ones calling each other? Bro.
Starting point is 01:48:10 No you don't. Do you actually call him bro? Yeah, bro. Like he walks home after a long day, you know, in the rain, walks in and you go, hey bro. I usually say hey buddy and he hates it. Yeah, buddies condescending. You call Shia a buddy too, so look into that what you will. Wait, what are you and Morgan? I call her Bork. You're Pookie, he hates it. Yeah buddies condescending. Buddy. You call Shigar buddy too so look into that what you will. What are you and Morgan? I call him Bork.
Starting point is 01:48:28 You're Pookie, a Bork. You call Gussie Gussie Wussie Wussie. And he calls me Juicy Moosie Woosie. Shigar what do you call your robo back? No one. I told you I'd hook it back to the shop. Oh you don't even. It's gone.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Got my money back, full refund. That just shows he can't live with anyone. At 6.30am Ducko we checked back in with Tia. She had played alpha box and said, I've got to go now, I've got a colonoscopy. We checked back in, wanted to get an update on the polyps. Mm-hmm. Do we set? I know she wants an extrovert, but I really think Shy Guy and Tia should go on a date. I don't think Shy Guy's going to date anyone with coloured hair.
Starting point is 01:48:58 I just don't feel like that's going to vibe him. He could colour his hair. Ew. Go share a bowl of cereal. God, I would love it if you did that. If you came in blue hair one day. We can get a pack of dye. I'll take you to my hairdresser. I don't even want to sit in a chair for as long as you do. What would you do? Hair dye, piercing or tattoo?
Starting point is 01:49:15 You have to do one of those. You have to pick one. Just go pick one. It's like marijuana and kill one. What's the tattoo of? Up to you. One of your dogs. You get a tattoo? Yeah. All right, we're getting team tats. Team tats.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Babs and Mia had the same tattoo artist, actually. Shout out to Mahmoodie Ink. Yes. Didn't you have a matching tattoo with someone? Yeah, a Rufus. Yeah, a Rufus tattoo. The old, yeah, she used to work it. That was Babs.
Starting point is 01:49:38 I was like, no, no, it's not me. No, Babs has like a sunflower on her arm. I don't have that. Super cute. You should, you're missing that between your Forex can and your Mia cat. I may as well. Why not have a sunflower? I want to get one for my daughter but I don't know what to get. And I don't want to get her name because I'm gonna get something like a symbol or something. Would you, and we've discussed at length your hatred of the
Starting point is 01:49:56 city Florence so you can't get something like that. I know. Denoting that. Would you get her handprint? Oh yeah. In ink and then transposed onto your... That's cute. I'd like to get something for Lucia Margarita and I was going to get a pizza. Pizza. That works. You can definitely do that. I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Anyway. Big show tomorrow. It's Thursday. I'll be able to wrap up from my origin. I could be in a great mood. I could be in a horrible mood. We'll find out. Yep.
Starting point is 01:50:21 We've got Alphabucks. We've got more tickets to the ladies origin. That's right. You're going to have to try and dethrone carryover champ Amanda. For Katy Perry. For Katy Perry, the one second song game. And we're gonna hear about Shy Guy's dog worming. That's right.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Just a groom. All right mate. But while you're down, you may as well check. Have a look. I'm not the one checking. Have a look buddy. They're not butt scooting the room. What else are you doing?
Starting point is 01:50:42 What else are you doing? Just cough now, what? Hey we're outta here out of here. Bye bye! Bye! I'm going for Iron Plus. Jess and Darko! That was the Jess and Darko podcast. Macca's new Tennessee BBQ range, now touring for a limited time.

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