Jess & Ducko - Hit Breakfast - THROWBACK | Please shower everyday

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

In this best of show: We find out how the kids ruined the surprise, find out why people are culling their friends and Jess uses medical science to back up why she doesn't shower daily!Subscribe on LiS...TNR: https://play.listnr.com/podcast/nick-jess-and-duckoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Jess and Ducko. Right now. What do you got for me? Vindication. It tastes and feels so sweet, Ducko. When the internet and prominent, important people back up my personal way of life and I'm sure other people's way of life. We've been living in the shadows for far too long. Us stinky people. You stink. But TikTok cleaning guru, I'm sure you're familiar with her work. You've been living in the shadows, but we can certainly smell you.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We know those shadows are there. Shark eye's in one shadow lurking and I'm in the other shadow trying to keep my smell away from you. So the other day when we talked about deodorant and none of it really works for me, I was inundated with recommendations and I see you. Don't bother. Don't bother to her. You know how you
Starting point is 00:00:44 got all those lovely messages after your wonderful news about pregnancy? These are the kind of messages I get. Have you tried WooHoo natural deodorant? I'm going to get the WooHoo. I'll try it. You know what someone sent me after the complete side note, after the pregnancy announced?
Starting point is 00:00:58 They sent me a wall of baby crowning through a vagina, like different stages of that. Like a diagram? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the phases of it. Any words to accompany the diagram? No, just a photo. And I was like, thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Had you had any dialogue with this person prior? No. Congratulations on the news. Here's a vagina wall. No, that would have made sense, but they didn't say anything. I was like, okay, I'll pass this one on. It's eye-opening, isn't it? What the female body can do. Incredible stuff. It's incredible stuff. What a gift.
Starting point is 00:01:31 How do we get on to our messages? Woohoo. And Russell. She is a TikTok cleaning guru. She's British, and you know the Brits, they're clean. Are they? I don't know, are they? When I think Britain, I think bad teeth. Bad teeth. But hygienic. Okay. I've just pulled that together. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:49 She's got 2.5 million followers. She's got 2.5 million people in her tribe, her clean tribe. People love a clean video. They love a hat. Or decluttering or a hat. Absolutely. This last video she's posted to her socials, 100 million views, Ducko. Thousands of comments.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Okay. She has said this. I find it really unpleasant if I stand in a queue and somebody in front of me is wearing a highly fragranced laundry detergent. It gives me a headache and it makes me feel quite sick. You don't need to smell of laundry detergent to be clean. You just need to be clean and not have a smell. She has a voice that sounds like she stinks.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Listen to her voice. I find it really unpleasant if I stand in a queue. I find her voice unpleasant. I reckon she would pong in public. Well, she is in my camp of saying the rest of that video is we're washing too much.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I shouldn't be able to smell your Omo. You are washing. Fabric softener, though. One of the great smells. You are washing your garments and yourselves too much if I can smell the fragrance of your body lotion, your washing detergent. She goes, just be clean. Having a neutral smell is what we should be aiming for. That's where we diverge, Anne and myself.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But she's saying we've all been influenced by marketing, advertising. It's the world we live in where we've just been inundated with, you've got to smell like pine trees and flowers. No. Just smell like. You're going too far with cleaning yourselves and your garments. Does it say how often we should clean our garments? Well, she is saying, well, so more people have piled on.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Another, who's this? An assistant professor of dermatology. Oh, yeah. So she's weighed in on Ann Russell's and she goes, I agree. People think they should shower once a day. Every two or three days is fine. No, no, no, no. I can't be more staunched against something.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And another cleaning expert has said, two or three days to shower. Wear your clothes until they get, you know, really bad. Unlike my husband who puts every day's clothes into the washing basket. I agree with that. I won't wash, like, if I wear shorts, I'm not going to wash them every day. I might wash shorts like once a week unless I spill something on them. Shirts, it depends how much I sweat, particularly under the arms. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:01 But I'll even wear exercise pants again. Oh, that yellow stain that starts. That needs to then go in the washer. Yeah, yeah. Maybe even have a soak. Maybe even a bin. But it's just more and more people are coming out. We know celebrities have come out being like,
Starting point is 00:04:10 I won't wash the kids unless they're visibly dirty. Yeah. But just more and more people are feeling it's safe to come out and be like, ah, don't wash so much. You know, when my wife comes home, she gets the high pressure hose. That's right. That's right. Yeah, but she's got like organic body matter on her.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Blood. She's got other people's blood. So it's just like. Anne Russell's not talking about that. That's right. That's right. Yeah, but she's got like organic body matter on her. Blood. She's got people's blood. So it's just like. Anne Russell's not talking about that. She's just talking about your every day. You know, relax. Don't need to be doing it as much. Please just don't listen to this.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Please shower every day. And save water. Please shower daily. Pardon me for loving the planet. Pardon me. Jess and Ducko. As we approach the end of the school year, particularly for year 12s, I think this song will probably be on high rotation. Yeah, still get a run of graduations.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I mean, she literally built graduation into the title of the song. Smart from her. There was a gap in the market. She saw it. She took it. This was, I'm pretty sure, my year 6 graduation song. And then it came back for year 12. I don't know what else vitamin C has done.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But I wonder if this is sort of the last few years we'll see Friends Forever rolling out. Because according to a new survey, a new study, young people are ditching the idea of Friends Forever with the cost of living crisis. Stop it. A new study from Finder indicated that almost 4.4 million people are whittling down their friendship groups
Starting point is 00:05:32 in an effort to control their spending. So obviously as we have to start tightening our belts, being much more budget conscious, what's on the chopping block? Social activities. And who do we do social activities with? Our friends. If we can cull down our friendship groups, though, from, you know, let's say eight close friends to three, that's fewer group dinners, fewer hens or bucks parties.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I see. Fewer birthdays we're buying presents for or drinks out for. And apparently this is really common with Gen Z and millennials. Baby boomers, they're not really doing this. No. Because they're sort of like, ah, I'll keep my friends around, you know, for as long as possible. Whereas the young ones are going, I need to do something about this.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It's getting too expensive. So I don't get asked to be a bridesmaid. Exactly. Or go to a box. When you look at hens and boxes, absolutely. They're probably your biggest expenses as a friend to someone. So is this even like group dinners? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:28 More than a quarter of Australians have started attending fewer events, whether it's those wedding-focused events, dinners out with friends, and others are just ditching them altogether. So some people are going, hey, guys, can't come to this one. You know, I went last month and I'm going to have to miss out on our monthly catch-up or monthly book club, whatever it is, whereas some people are genuinely culling friends to save money. Then you have to go through your friend list and go, geez, who would I get invited to like
Starting point is 00:06:54 their birthday and not be that excited to go or spend money? Exactly. If I get the group chat, group message come through, hey guys, it's my 26th birthday. I'm having a Mexican fiesta. The banquet's going to be 65 ahead. Does that make you feel A, happy to spend or B, anxious and agitated? You're just telling us about Lucia's Mexican fiesta this weekend. Is this your polite way of telling Shy Guy Babs on it's going to be 65 ahead to cover
Starting point is 00:07:19 the door costs? No. Okay. Tacos and margaritas on me. Oh, good. On me. You don't have to lift a finger. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 What I'm saying is... Just go look at that gift registry, shy guy. See, that's what it is. I'm going to go to David Jones later today. God forbid you go to Kmart. If you want to save money, I'd be a good friend to Carl. Yeah, yeah. Because it's expensive to be a good friend to Carl.
Starting point is 00:07:39 We don't want to save anything collectively as a team. But you can't call a friend slash colleague because you've got to see me every day. That's too hard of a team. But you can't colour friends slash colleagues. You've got to see me every day. That's too hard of a breakup. Even yesterday, you already got me and my unborn child like three of the nicest little onesies, like little... It was four. Who's counting? It was four.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Not a ducko. And a baby book. The meerkat was in a double pack. Oh, Jesus. It could be five then. Oh, yeah, because then I got the bespoke one back. Yeah, yeah. It's not about stuff. I'm just saying. It's about stuff. It's not five then. Oh, yeah, because then I got the bespoke one back. Yeah, yeah. It's not about stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I'm just saying. It's about stuff. It's not about stuff. Thanksgiving is my love language, and it's my prerogative to spend my money on my friend. So this would be tough for you then, because you wouldn't want to cull. It'd be your husband saying, can you please cull some friends and stop buying presents. I've broken up with a friend before, but this was way before the cost of living crisis we're in now. She was just a drainer, and I was like, I don't want to hang out with you anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:25 But now I can look back and go, no, it was the cost of living. It was a now. She was just a drainer. And I was like, I don't want to hang out with you anymore. But now I can look back and go, no, it was cost of living. It was a budgetary thing. You can't be mad at me for making a smart money. Scott Pape, the barefoot investor, would be so proud of me. He'd be so happy. For making that decision 10 years ago. Absolutely. But yeah, so this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:08:38 So if you do get culled or if a friend stops replying to your messages and the requests for coffee or dinner, they're just being money conscious. Can't help it. They can't help it. They've got to make the right decision financially. Babs is out there nodding. I feel like Babs has done this to some people. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I definitely have. Yep. Are you starting to avoid social events and opportunities to spend money just to save a few pennies? Yeah, 100% just to save. Yeah. And have you looked at the gift registry for Lucci's birthday this weekend? I have not. Okay. Group gift, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And have you looked at the gift registry for Lucia's birthday this weekend? I have not.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Okay. Group gift, guys. All the cheap ones are taken. Group gift. Jess and Ducko. Yeah, did the kids just blurt something out that they weren't meant to say? They maybe found this news out or you told them hoping that they wouldn't say anything and then they did.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It's hard to explain to a, what, under 10? Hey, it's a surprise. Keep it to yourself. Keep it to you. Or they're just bursting with excitement. Yeah, they can't help it. Can't help it. So, obviously, we announced at the start of the week, Morgan, my wife, is pregnant.
Starting point is 00:09:33 We're expecting a baby girl. It's very exciting. Now, when we told our families, we went back to Brisbane. We're all from Brisbane, both Morgan's family and my family. So, when we told them, we went back up there one week and we had a wedding and we were going to hit three birds with one stone. Her family, my family, and do the wedding. That's fantastic. It was a tough weekend though because it was one of those classic cases where she couldn't drink at the wedding, so I'm there chugging her wine because we're not telling anyone. I'm getting progressively
Starting point is 00:09:56 more drunk and just trying to keep it together. Anyway, we told my parents on the Friday and then the next day we were telling my sisters and all that sort of stuff, but mum really wanted us to tell my grandma. Oh, that's nice. Can you go tell your grandma, you know, okay, sure. When we rock up to grandma's house. Because grandma's not on TikTok or Instagram, so she's not going to see the video. She's not getting the likes up.
Starting point is 00:10:13 She needs old school face to face. I keep sending it to her. She keeps getting hacked on Facebook. She has lost all her super. So many times. Because she just keeps getting scammed. When we went to grandma's house, my auntie was there. Funnily enough, her name is Auntie Susan.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And when Susan was there, I was like, what? So you roll into Grandma's house. Thinking it'd just be Grandma. Susan doesn't live with her. No. She's just happened to have popped in at the same time, did she? Exactly. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And she's given me the eyes, like me and Morgan, like the high eyebrows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we couldn't not tell Grandma then. Susan was there the entire time. So we weren't going to tell the extended family. Did Aunty Susan have an inkling? Yeah, because my mum had been basically like, make sure Grandma is at the house and you should be there too
Starting point is 00:10:52 because there's some news, some baby news. You can't text that, Kate. There's some baby news. Well, you've just given it away. Hang on, I thought you wanted to do when did the kids were on the subject. So then that afternoon we go to my sister's house where she has the kids. So she doesn't know yet? They don't know yet.
Starting point is 00:11:07 My sisters don't know. This was a really exciting moment to tell my sisters. They didn't expect it. We waited an hour while being there. Morgan was pretending to drink. They fully were off the scent. And then we go, by the way, Morgan's pregnant. Hang on, was your mum there?
Starting point is 00:11:19 No, mum and dad weren't there. Thank God. Yeah, but it gets worse. Mum and dad weren't there, right? So we tell them. They're all crying. Everyone's happy. It was probably the best reaction I can remember from all of the reactions.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah. And we're all hugging. Her kids are there. She's got four kids, as we know. And they were all very excited. And we're like, don't tell anyone, okay? It's just for us. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Then my other auntie was just in the neighborhood at 8 p.m. at night. Did a pop-in. Did a pop-in. Now, pop-ins have been cancelled. We don't pop in. Did a pop-in via a text that she received from my mother. Oh, not again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You want to be around? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some news. This is mum's baby, no one else. So she pops in as they come in and we're like, oh, no, we weren't going to tell them. No, no, we can get through a cup of tea. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And then they'll leave. And then they'll leave. We're all there like half crying, half emotional. And then Jack, Abby's little son, goes up to my auntie and just goes, Ducko and Morgan are pregnant. They're having a baby girl. And then runs off. Just drop that bowl and skedaddle.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But they were waiting for it. And so we didn't tell them. And then all my other cousins found out through that, like it just spread like wildfire. Of course it did. Because the kids yelled it out and blurted it out. And, I mean, my mum is that, like it just spread like wildfire. Of course it did. Because the kids yelled it out and blurted it out. And I mean, my mum is really, I was like, mum, and she's like, I didn't do anything. I was just telling them.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You laid the groundwork. They might want to pop in to see you and Morgan. You're in town. When do they ever do that? They never want to do that. Oh, I love that. Well, you see where the kids get it from. From grandma.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And then having my sister, their mother was like, oh, it's out now. You've told them. They're going to tell everyone. They're going to tell all their friends at school. And I was like, this was probably week nine. Gee, so this was early. Yeah, because we're 14 now. Lucky you were interstate.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah, I know. Because if it was any closer, you probably would have got them back to me and to people here. Yes, you hadn't found out yet. Yeah, it was very early. So 13, 10, 60, when did the kids ruin the surprise? That's right. Look, in this scenario, I think Grandma has a little bit of blame, but we'll focus on the children.
Starting point is 00:13:15 You can do Grandma as well if you want. Who ruined the surprise and how'd they do it? Jess and Ducco. 13, 10, 60, when did your kids ruin the surprise? That's right. It's hard to tell a kid this is a secret. Yeah, don't tell anyone. If they've got this nugget of excitement, it's going to burst forth.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Oh, yeah. Particularly when we announced, we told our families that Morgan was pregnant and my mum had basically told our aunties to just do a pop in, to conveniently be there while we were there, knowing we were telling my sisters and her four kids, and it was a special moment. And you, happy to keep it zipped. Oh, yeah. Hey, Auntie.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yep, we can get through this. But with a seven-year-old involved. Yeah. Like, Morgan and I made a plan. Tell our immediate families and no one else. Yes. And then it just, Auntie and Uncle come over. You're telling me Auntie Susan and Auntie Di found out before me.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah. Well, that's my niece and nephew's doing. Because they were there that my nephew just spots out, duck, I'm not going to press that, in front of all of us. And we just looked at them and they looked at us. It was like, surprise. And Abby looked at me and my sister. She's like, well, what did you expect?
Starting point is 00:14:16 Like, it's not her fault. It's not their fault. It's out now. It's everyone else's fault. Stacey, good morning to you. Good morning. How are you guys doing? So wonderful. Thank you. How old was your daughter when she ruined a surprise? She was 16.
Starting point is 00:14:31 She was what? 16. Oh, 16. Not even young. Okay. What did she do? What happened? My boyfriend at the time and I were going away up to Queensland for Magic Round in 2003. And my daughter decides to then tell me, because she knows I don't really like surprises, then decided to tell me that my boyfriend was going to propose to me this side of the border. Oh my God, no way. Had your partner sort of talked to her about it, maybe asked her permission or something cute and then said, keep it zipped, though.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah, look, we had spoken about it, and I'd imagine he would have spoken to her about it also. Yeah, he was sweet. Oh, no. But, see, I like that from the daughter, because she's probably just gone about it the wrong way, but made sure, make sure you pack a nice outfit. Do you need to go get a manicure?
Starting point is 00:15:23 She's probably just trying to help. There is trying to help. It's always from good intention. Hayley on 131060, it was your niece that ruined the news. Yes, yes, it was. I found out I was pregnant and I went to the doctors and I set up a group chat ready for my doctor to send the gender to my brother and my mother.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Oh, yeah. And my brother had obviously told his children and they come over to my house and the first thing that she says is, oh, my God, you're having a boy baby. Oh, no. And were you going to do a big gender reveal and stuff? We did a gender reveal and I just stood there. I was like, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Oh. But in that moment, don't you start justifying in your head like, maybe she's trying to throw me off. Maybe it's not it. It still might not be it. It still might not be it. It still might not be a surprise. It did cross my mind.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I was like, oh, hang on. What if she's pulling my leg? What if it's actually real? Still an element of surprise maybe. Chloe, I love this. You were the kid who ruined some news. How old were you and what was the situation? So I was eight and a half, almost nine,
Starting point is 00:16:36 and my mum and dad actually went through what Jocko and Morgan had gone through, so congratulations, Jocko. Thank you, Chloe. My mum and dad tried for seven years. Wow. And they fell pregnant with my brother. Now, I was over the moon that I was going to have a sibling. Didn't care what sex.
Starting point is 00:16:55 But I went for the gender reveal with my mum. And my mum's sister and my auntie, my uncle, my nan were all in the waiting room. I was the first to go in. And my mum said, it's a boy, but you cannot go and tell them. Like, you can't say anything. You let them surprise. I was like, okay, mum. I think I got out the door one foot of the, like, the ultrasound room and I screamed so loud.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'm having a brother. Everyone in the hospital floor heard me and I realized the surprise. I mean, it's still a surprise. It's just come out of Chloe's mouth and not mum's. When you tell a kid not to say something. Exactly. Exactly. And Rachel, good morning to you.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Good morning. Your mum ruined it. Yeah, you can relate to Ducko here with an overexcited mum, we're going to say. Yeah, overexcited grandma. Yeah, what happened? So I actually, I had a rough delivery, ended up going to emergency surgery after the birth of my first child. Now, when I woke up the following morning,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I had a whole lot of messages from everyone congratulating me and everything. And I found that my mum actually made a birth announcement on her Facebook page. She took that moment away from me. and I found that my mum actually made a birth announcement on her Facebook page. No! She took that moment away from me. No! On Facebook as well. On Facebook.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Oh. How long ago is this? 2013. Oh, okay. So Facebook was peaking. Absolutely. Rach, that must have just been. You're obviously in a, like like surgery would have been a hectic
Starting point is 00:18:27 time. And then you go, mum. Mum, why did you do this? With the most, you know, ugliest of fresh newborn photos. Yes. That's always the way. Oh, thanks, Rach. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Wrap it up here with Bill. Good morning, Bill. It says this is school related. Yeah. So what had happened was we went to a family holiday to Japan, and obviously it's a lot cheaper to go during school time than holidays. So kind of my plan was to chuck a ticket for the kids on the last week of school. And my five-year-old in kindergarten told the teacher a few weeks earlier,
Starting point is 00:19:03 hey, the last week of school I'm going to be unwell. I want to go to Japan with my family. Rowan Kindergarten told the teacher a few weeks earlier, hey, the last week of school I'm going to be unwell. I'm going to just hang with my family. And then this principal called me saying, you can't really be doing that. So he kind of knocked us in and we kind of said, well, it's too late now. We're ready with the tickets. So we're still going. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:19:22 It's like when, you know, you're trying to get the kid's meal or whatever into the restaurant. You're like, say that you're under five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, hello, I'm under five. Like, yeah, definitely not six. Jess and Ducco. It's been a big week in many regards, wouldn't you say, Ducco? Maybe just, yep. Big, big week.
Starting point is 00:19:37 For me personally, it's been quite a reflective week as tomorrow my little girl Lucia turns one. Yes. We've got a Mexican theme to partay. We do. And it's so – I'm so looking forward to celebrating. Like literally there's four kids invited. It's not about the kids. It's truly – it's about celebrating with our village and the people who got us
Starting point is 00:20:01 through this first year. And I'm just so looking forward to that aspect. But it's been a big week of thinking about it, obviously. It's been looming. The year's gone so fast. So fast. Yeah. And I have said that in previous years pre-having kids,
Starting point is 00:20:17 but my God, it's hit in a different way with this little child in our lives. And someone asked me during the week a pretty big question, and it's lingered in my mind, and I wanted to share some thoughts with you because as someone who's so close to me, I'd love your perspective as well. But someone asked me, am I the kind of mum I thought I would be? And sitting with that question the past couple of days, I honestly can't remember what my preconceived ideas
Starting point is 00:20:46 about motherhood or parenthood were because, and you are around the corner from finding this out, brother, but you are so in the moment of every day, of every hour of every day. Just getting through. Just getting through that it's so hard to remember what bloody last week was like, let alone the first days of bringing her home, the first few months. I swear two minutes ago I was going on mat leave. Yeah. I swear two minutes ago I was in labor.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I swear two minutes ago she was wearing size four zeros. And now I have a girl about to turn one and she's doing all these amazing things and showing so much personality. all these elements where I go, you're a teenager. You're meant to be a little baby. But these preconceived ideas I had, and I remember reflecting with Angus a couple of days ago, I think I was really scared and I had all these ideas that I'd find it really hard
Starting point is 00:21:43 and I was really worried about postnatal depression, which we know is very common. I was really worried about not feeling that heart cracking open moment when I held Lucia. That connection. And I'll be honest with you. I didn't have that. I had shock and bewilderment and fear. Yeah. I didn't have that.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Holy crap. This is everything I need in this moment. Yeah. I didn't have that, holy crap, this is now the light of my... This is everything I needed in this moment. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know that probably sounds a bit shocking to some people who did feel that, but I know to a lot of people that... So common. Very common.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah. Because everyone sort of forces, not forces you, but everyone tells you that's what you will be thinking, right? So you think that's coming and then you get it. Exactly. You really feel what you feel. I thought I was going to die in labor. Like, genuinely, I said to Angus, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I'm not going to make it. And as much of the breathing techniques I'd done and the books I'd read and the podcasts I listened to, nothing prepares you. So I couldn't believe I'd gotten through it, the idea that you are the first and last line of defence. We had a conversation this week with a sleep consultant. Lucia is having some trouble. I know. I was there yesterday. I struggled with that too.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But she's asking us, and Angus is on the chat, on the call, but she's asking me all these questions. She's really directing the chat to me. Oh, yeah. And I remember having this out-of-body experience, like, where's the adult? Where's the person in charge? Can I ask my mum? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I've got such imposter syndrome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Being a mum. Do you reckon that ever goes away? I wonder. And I was talking to a girlfriend. She's got a 10-year-old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And she was saying, no, it doesn't go away. You know, she's having meetings at her kid's school and she's thinking, where's the adult? I feel like I'm in trouble being called to speak to teachers. And I just can't fathom that this, I'm in charge. Yeah, I own this. And I guess as much so as me, but there's a difference. I think, you know, the mother, there's just a different element there. But I found a letter on my laptop that I wrote to Lucia before she was born.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I don't even remember it last year. I think it was just before I went on mat leave. And I opened it. I've not looked at this thing for 12 months. And there was a part of it that really struck home to me. Because without revisiting this letter, it's not like I printed it out, it's not been on the fridge every day. This line, a couple lines, it says,
Starting point is 00:24:06 Dear Lucia, or I think I said baby girl because obviously I didn't reveal her name, but some days will be hard, but we will laugh every day. Some days will be sad, but we will endure. Some days will be full of mistakes, but we are all of our next choices. We are all of our tomorrows. And reflecting on the past 12 months, I'm so proud of myself. I think I have lived like that. And it's just so awesome to me that even with my imposter syndrome and all these things
Starting point is 00:24:35 of, holy crap, can I get through this? Can I do this? Am I going to stuff this kid up for the future? I can honestly say I think I'm a better person. Yeah. More relaxed. I'm more relaxed. I don't sweat the small stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got say I think I'm a better person. Yeah, more relaxed. I'm more relaxed. I don't sweat the small stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got my priorities a bit more in order. Yeah. I think. Yeah, yeah. I find the joy and the adventure and the pressure of raising a person, I think I've embraced it. I think I can look myself in the eye and say, yeah, you're doing all right.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah, I think so. And I'm also not as grossed out by stuff as I thought I would be. That's good. Yeah, that's true. I I'm also not as grossed out by stuff as I thought I would be. That's good. Yeah, that's true. I used to be a bit of an icky person. I've been vomited on. I've been pooed on. I've been all these things.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And I can get through it. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah, you can deal with it. It comes your way. Exactly. You've certainly become more, I think you're more relaxed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I was a highly strong person. Yeah, more go with the flow, I think. I think so too. I think so too. I think I was much more strong person. Yeah, more go with the flow, I think. I think so too. I think so too. I think I was much more rigid. Yeah. And she's made me much more flexible in that regard. She's made me, as I said, perspective and priorities.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And I just can't believe she's won. Like I said, I babysat for an hour yesterday. I was cooked. It's intense, man. It's intense. I'm walking out of that being like, oh, God. Well, tacos and margaritas on me tomorrow.

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