Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 551: Another Exciting Episode
Episode Date: September 29, 2024This week on the Experience, Jim reviews WWE Smackdown & Raw! Plus Jim talks about Mr. McMahon, Daniel Garcia, King Kong Bundy, car phones, brothel history and much more! Follow Jim and Brian on... Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Like the midnight and the rock and roll.
He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control.
He's Jim Connest.
The keys to the future held by the past and with tag deep art.
Born at Experience, where today we're going to talk about hookers and horror comics and Vince Rousseau's tombstone.
And we might get to some wrestling before it's over with as well.
And joining me to do all this and more.
Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr.
co-host to you, he's the William Gaines of podcasting, the great Brian last everybody.
Hello, hi Jim, a pleasure to be here once again, and what a high compliment that was.
Thank you very much.
I do appreciate that.
One of the books I always have in my office is the William Gaines biography.
Scott Cornish lent it to me years ago, and then I purchased my own copy.
Oh, I thought you were going to say Scott Cornish lit it too.
You never gave me.
No, no, I gave it back to him and I liked it so much.
I bought a copy so that I always have one on hand and I can go back to it and check it out.
Why didn't you buy scots?
You just read his for free and then you gave somebody else some money.
He did not want to lose it because he loved it too.
Well, then he shouldn't have given it to a fucking guy like you.
I gave it back to him.
What is your problem?
I gave it back to him.
After he kept calling.
I gave it back to him when the time was right.
There's been a great show.
And by the way, I'm under the weather.
and he's hicking on me and starting crap.
By the way, that's an old Abdulah the butcher quote.
They'd say something to you about the finish or whatever.
He'd say, when the time is right.
But no, you have, I could have said you're the cryptkeeper today
because you informed me right before we go on the air
that once again, the burden of entertainment may fall on my broad but beleaguered shoulders
as you are indeed feeling puny.
I would just, I'd just poison myself last week.
I was a death's doornail.
And I nipped up and did the show and it was,
it was as only I could do a show.
And you're, you got some,
what is the problem with you?
What is your genre of illness here?
First of all, I woke up feeling crummy and I'm recording because that's what kind of guy I am.
Can you imagine how everybody else felt when you woke up?
They weren't feeling too fucking great.
That's not nice.
The point is I woke up and I came here.
and I'm doing what I got to do.
You woke up and you said, oh, I need a few days.
Oh, I need a new pillow.
Wait a minute, you woke up and you came here.
You walked from one part of the house to another part of the house.
It's not like you had to take a travel day.
Don't diminish my commute.
There's all sorts of things in the way.
The point is I woke up feeling crappy.
You have the most mute commute I've ever seen.
So, so far you woke up and you were feeling crummy.
You were feeling down in the mouth.
You were feeling just kind of blah out of sorts, had to sour belches.
Well, not really that.
I have kind of a sore throat and my nose is stuffed up and we put the heat on because
it got cold and that did not help.
I dried you out, didn't it?
You breathing all that hot and dry air?
Yeah, it's really bad.
So that's why on your show I'm asking you to carry the ball and carry the water,
bring it home, bring it on home, Jim.
Can I just give me a jug of piss while you're at it?
all carry that over as well.
Jake Roberts may have one of those.
Or the Rock. Actually, the Rock may have one.
Well, no, he prefers
bottles more, doesn't he?
Yeah, that's true. Not a jug.
All right. Anyway, we're going to have a
rollicking show today
amongst many things. And also
I got Hotchkiss Featherbottom.
Came to the rescue again. My printer,
which I believe I reported the people a week or so
ago, was down because of the
the sudden power outage we had here,
the still is inexplicable,
it just, bam, it just went back on or off and back on,
and everything was fine except
the printer went into some type of somnambulistic coma,
and Hotchkis Featherbottom came over here,
and the technical genius that he is,
he was able to figure out exactly what happened
and put that back online.
So we have viewer mail again,
today.
And we're going to hear from some of the cult
of coronas. What did Hotchkiss do? Exactly
explain the intricate technique
that he applied to fix this problem?
Well, he went through a variety of
screens and clicking
upon things
that caused more boxes to come
up upon
the screen of the thing, and then he
reached down and he pulled his white cable
out and stuck it back in again.
And he said, there it's
loading. So he's
He's a genius.
He can evaluate these things
and he just like wave his hand.
I hope you don't lose this guy
to the Geek Squad or something.
No, no, no.
They have certain standards
or guidelines with their hiring
that the background check.
Well, nevertheless,
he tried and he gave it a good old,
and he looked like a completely different person
when he walked in there with that fake mustache.
I can't believe they put his pictures up over the door.
So if Freddie Blassie was still alive, do you think it's a natural right there for a geek squad to use him to advertise the brand?
Oh, God, he could be chewing through the cords to malfunction the equipment and then they come in and figure you,
pants all that geeks.
Bundy, Bundy, you big fat piece of shit.
Bundy did a commercial for what kind of early computer thing that was happening back then.
know more about these things than I do. Yeah, I forget the name of the computer because it's not
one that anyone talks about today, but that was the thing he left for in what, 87, 88, 88.
Yes, it was a big national advertising campaign. And apparently it didn't do very well for the
computer people. If you can't even remember what the brand was. You can't remember either for
the record. You were much older than I was at the time. You were one of his contemporaries.
That's why I didn't fucking pay any attention to that goddamn flash to pay.
fucking computer shit.
I knew it wouldn't last.
And see here, we don't even remember who it was.
We remember Bundy.
Ah, head start.
Head start computer.
God, damn.
It sounds like the slow lane of computers, doesn't it?
If you're really just unable to figure anything else out, here, try ours?
You know, hold on, there are commercials.
I've never actually seen or heard any of the commercials.
I've seen the print ed.
Curious what this is.
do these things still exist
on youtube apparently yeah
well no i'm not saying i'm saying i'm not saying to the spots
i'm saying do this computer company or this brand or this line of
who shot john that they were producing does it still exist is it still marketed
this to me did the head starts perspicuous panoply of programs
really bring about a qualitative transmutation of my intellectual faculties
or was the amplification only a matter of degree?
Jeun-no-se-pa.
One thing is certain, however,
the power, performance, and sophistication of the Head Start computer
can make a genius out of you, too.
Head Start by Vendex, built to be compatible with you.
And that was Bundy.
That was Bundy.
And can you hear, because of the New Jersey accent,
and can you hear a little bit of Dennis Corleuzo
maybe reading the same thing,
the same kind of way at his younger days?
You know, I can. Hold on. Here's another one. This one's from 1989.
Not bad, Bundy. You really made that head start computer look easy to handle.
Look easy. It was easy, Dick. You know, the fully IBM-compatible head-start computer made a genius out of me in only 23 minutes.
Well, now headstock computers can make a genius out of every New Mark and Lewis customer.
Hey, Bundy, did you get one?
As a matter of fact, Dick, they're all mine. What do you got to say now?
Just one thing.
So again, in terms of the usage of King Kong Bundy and the video ads,
that is separated from the print ads,
is this the best way to utilize King Kong Bundy?
Probably not, but it's amazing that,
because Bundy was very underrated verbally,
and he did a tremendous job better than some local television personalities
I've seen doing commercials,
of delivering the fucking lines and saying all those words,
and especially the one where they had him be the, you know,
it was the dichotomy of look at this giant, massive kingpin of a man,
while at the same time he's spouting off all him $14 words,
as Sputnik Monroe might say.
So he did a very good job verbally.
Harley is over here behind my chair applauding him,
as a matter of if you hear that.
Actually, she's scratching a place for her to lay down in the carpet.
He's doing a better job verbally than we are.
Well, all right. Well, anyway, you're the one playing these old advertisements.
You still haven't answered my question. Do these things, does this company, what happened to these people?
Could you turn on one of their computers right now and would it work?
You have no answer for that.
I am looking up head-start computer.
Head-start computer. That's what we want to know. We're not shamelessly promoting these products
of 40 years ago. We're trying to find out what happened to a once thriving organization
here. What up to their employees?
Do they all just kick them out in the street?
Mom and dad just suddenly without a breadwinner in the family?
And they're going penniless. The kids are not eating.
There's probably some domestic abuse going on in the household because of the stress.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Is this what Bundy wrought with his commercials?
The head start, the head start, that's Kevin Sullivan's read.
The Head Start Explorer was an inexpensive all-in-one home computer that came with a
built-in graphical user interface.
Graphical?
Graphical, that's what it says here.
G-U-I.
The G-U-I was built directly into the machine's ROM.
Some things to know.
The GUI was not based on any...
A-pet-T-ROM got soared in cold weather.
The GUI was not based on any existing windowing system.
The desktop was static.
The icons were hard-coded.
The icons cannot be moved, altered, or removed.
Shortcuts the software could not be added.
sounded, sounds awful.
The only writable onboard storage
was the clock and the control panel.
I don't even know. This sounds like Abbott and Costello
to me to begin with. I don't know what the fuck
that meant. It doesn't sound like it's still in business
and you can certainly see why.
Although it made a genius out of King Kong Bundy in 23 minutes,
I'd love to see the false advertising lawsuit over that.
Well, shit, I'll tell you, I was going to have Hotchkiss
invest in these people. If they were wrestling-friendly,
perhaps we could have worked some kind of a deal.
I could have been the new Bundy.
All right, never let's get in line here.
Snap, snap here, attention, because this is my program.
I'm the captain of this ship.
I'm steering this vessel.
No more of these side tangents out into,
why do you always want to know these things about these various obscure things
that then you force us to sit around while you're looking up?
I'm here to talk about the vessel.
Let's talk about...
Nobody asked you.
I'm here to talk about Vesselmania.
I've got breaking news here.
As a matter of fact, it's just come up across the breaking news desk.
Did you hear about the female photographer escorted out of the Virginia Elementary School in Chesapeake, Virginia?
Did you hear about this?
This just recently happened.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
No.
Apparently, this woman told television outlet WTKR that her son was sitting to have his school picture taken when the photographer, and there's a picture of this woman, and she looks fairly young and somewhat average, said to him, can I steal your identity and can I eat your soul?
Oh.
What did he reply?
Well, she asked him, can I steal your identity?
His response was just no.
Her next question was, can I eat your soul?
How old was this kid?
It's elementary school.
I'm trying to, I don't think they could list the age of this child,
but he was crying when he was telling mommy of this, right?
and then her next question was, well, then what can I eat?
And he told me, Mommy, I didn't know what to say.
So I said the first thing was, you can have noodles.
You can eat noodles.
And guess what the photographer said?
What?
Demons don't eat noodles.
Oh, I didn't know that.
There's some news.
So apparently they let some...
Demon?
Self-professed demon.
That shit crazy.
The, the, uh,
Hold on there
she was actually involved
or involved employed
by Shutterfly
that's a company I guess
that potentially sends people out
to do these things
They're a pretty big company yeah
Yeah she ain't got that job anymore
But
An internal investigation is underway
They're sending demons
to take photos of your children
see as I've told you Brian you got to be careful who you associate with these days
was that the only kid that she did this to did she single out just as one kid or did she go after
other children I did well there was nobody else was quoted or commented upon demons don't
eat noodles demons well that that is kind of fairly sensible I mean what have you ever seen
a demon he asked said can I have some ramen how do you think she would react if all of a sudden people
start sending her lots of noodles.
I think she's been off her noodle for quite some time.
All right, anyway.
Is her name a Waka Khan?
Let me love you, Raka Khan.
Let me sue you.
Raka Khan.
Raka Khan.
Anyway, let's get to the listenership here.
And at first, I wanted to send a special message.
I can't say shout out.
I'm an adult goddamn...
Man, I can't say.
I want to send a shout out, but I want to send a special message to one of my oldest friends.
And even that was unwieldily worded because it's not like she's 94 years old.
It's the kind of person where I've known this person longer than I've known most people in my life type of oldest friend.
You see what I'm saying there?
Yeah.
Are you, did I express that adequately now?
You explain to fine you?
All right. Well, anyway, Melody Oglesby from White Plains, Kentucky, who not all, I have known since I was a teenager, but was a great friend of my mom's.
And I won't tell a lady's age, but she's in my age bracket. But she used to come to the matches when I was a photographer, and my mom was at the souvenir stand.
And in Evansville or Madisonville, Kentucky, when we run out there.
And my mom just thought the world of her.
And they were friends.
But when I was on the road, Melody, offtimes, might come up and spend a Saturday just visiting with my mom.
And we have stayed in touch on occasions or holidays or whatever.
And I just wanted to say hello to Melody because she sent me a card for my birthday and said that the doctor had gone.
giving her some disheartening news here over the past couple months.
So we just wanted to tell her that we're thinking about her.
And the cult of Corvette has pretty much healed every major illness, haven't they?
Known to man over the last few years with all of their generosity.
So and also the power of positive thinking.
So anyway, Melody, we love you.
And we've got another couple of e-mails.
See, and she doesn't send me emails.
It's written down on paper with a stamp on it, the way things are supposed to be.
Anyway, and also a few listeners that we have heard from, though, as I said, by email, James from,
how do you say it now?
God damn it, now they're going to cross me up.
Edinburgh, Scotland, is it Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Edinburgh, it's B-U-R-G-H, but
how is this pronounced?
If you pronounce it fast enough,
no one will be able to tell which version you said.
Well, James from Edinburgh, Scotland,
wrote us a nice email.
He's had some hard times going on,
but our show serves as a comfort to him.
They're so polite over there.
Well, some of them are, in the way that they phrase,
it deserves as a comfort to me.
But he claims,
Brian, and we make him laugh.
That's one thing.
But he claims that you deserve more recognition.
How much more can you be recognized?
Do we have to do the thing where whenever I interest you?
When will that start?
Whenever I introduce you, whenever I introduce you,
then you've got to stand up and say, acknowledge me now.
I think I'm acknowledged enough.
I think I get enough attention.
I'm just fine with the attention I get.
Well, he didn't say attention.
He says recognition.
Now, is that the same thing?
Well, that's different than just recognize.
That's recognition.
You look at that person.
You say, they are the best at what they do.
They are great at what they do.
A sexy, sexy man.
A good at everything he touches, just filled with great ideas and wonderful execution.
women love him, men want to be his friend and hang out with him,
he has to kick people out of his house because no one wants to leave,
these kind of things.
But he's talking about you, not me.
No, I thank you for humbly mentioning that you'd feel that you're happy
with the attention you get and you don't need any more recognition.
You better recognize.
James, I recognize James.
James says I'd love to meet you both, but...
Oh, that's not how.
happening.
But I wish you the best.
Peace and love.
Anyway, I got another email here from Alex.
He's Alex from Minnesota.
Took me a second to find that.
And he's emailed us before and we have,
we've read it and talked about him.
But his grandmother, Linda, passed away in May.
And he had a nice quote.
I thought we'd read this.
She was not just a grandparent, but a best friend who looked out for me,
always knew how to put a smile on my face and make me laugh all while keeping a smile on her face,
while on chemo treatments and parenting two special needs children.
She was and always will be a strong woman who persevered through challenges in life,
and I love her and miss her greatly.
But then that goes for Alex's parents, Paul and Randy, too,
and his friend Andrew from England.
Do we know Andrew from England?
Did Andrew die too?
Is this just, I lost track of what happened.
No, no, no.
He was grandmother, then all of a sudden it was a bunch of other people.
Was there an accident?
No, that is.
Was it a boat?
It was a bus.
The fucking guardrail hadn't been inspected by the state.
I don't know how long.
No, his, Alex's parents, Paul and Randy and friend Andrew from England.
have been getting him through the tough times lately along with us and our programming.
Apparently, now that may have come to an end.
I'm glad they're still here.
Otherwise, at times would really be tough.
But sounds like you have a good support system and an awful podcast to listen to.
Well, Alex, we're sorry for a number of things.
And Dan from Alberta, Canada, unfortunately, his mother passed away a couple weeks ago.
and he said, you know, obviously it's been a very tough week for me
and thank you guys for the laughs and helping me keep somewhat of a routine
while he's planning the funeral arrangements.
But he says, I thought you might be interested in hearing about this.
I don't know whether you deserve it or not now.
He says, when Brian announced the passing of his father,
he mentioned the charity locks of love.
And I'm proud to say I'm about four inches away
from being able to donate enough hair
for locks of love to make a wig.
What do you think about that?
That's beautiful.
That's a wonderful thing.
That's a wonderful thing.
Four inches away.
I was once four inches away
from getting to love Goldilocks.
Goldilocks.
That's a whole completely different.
Who's Goldiland?
And the three bears.
You've never heard of gold.
I thought you were talking about an actual person,
not the actual story.
I thought you were talking about a person
and you were making some kind of weird
sexual innuendo that I should understand
and get the reference to you.
Well, I was making a weird sexual
innuendo that you should have understood
but I didn't know that there was any debate
as to who Goldilocks was,
the fucking bitch that was bothering
the three bears breaking in their homes,
stealing their food
and doing who knows what in their bed.
I don't know.
You could have said, oh, she was an outlaw girl
that worked for, you know, Wild West wrestling.
I don't know.
But Dan, thank you, Dan.
Yeah.
And thank you, Alex, and thank you James.
We, and melody.
Well, and also, and thank you for the melody.
John from Minnesota sends us an email.
Now, this is on something that we have talked about here recently on the,
picking up the early not cell phone calls,
but cordless home phone calls.
on the radio and et cetera, right?
You remember we had a discussion about that.
Yeah, and there's a couple of clips on YouTube about party lines, I think.
Jim Cornett on party, on party lines.
No, we did.
That was Tessa Blanchard.
Oh, yeah.
No, she's a fine young lady, and I understand that she is, has regular bowel movements.
She likes to party all the time.
You know, I used to sing that to Harley some day.
She likes to party all the time.
Party all the time.
All right, John, though, John from up there in Minnesota.
Mr. Cordette, I'd ask that you please withhold my name.
Should you read this on this?
Well, I'm not going to give you your last name.
So how many fucking.
Please don't say where I am and who I am.
There's a lot of Johns in Minnesota.
A lot of Olies, a lot of Larses, and a lot of Johns.
But anyway, I was listening to the experience today
and heard you discussing cordless phones in the FM band.
You did find out that was possible,
but there was some other fun that some frequency geeks,
certainly not me,
would have, as phones progress,
You could buy police scanners back in the day.
I remember that you see in the 80s TV shows,
all the reporters had the police scanners and in their car and everything.
You could buy police scanners back of the day.
If the frequency went high enough,
you could get on the cordless phone band and hear calls.
Cell phones up until the early 2000s were on the analog band.
Scanners blocked out the frequencies,
between 868,000 or 0.000 and 898.000
megahertz, MHZ, because that was the cell band.
So scanners blocked those out.
You didn't get on those.
But there was a national retailer that sold their own line of scanners.
There were also websites that were not based in the U.S.
so the FCC could do nothing about it.
that would tell you how to modify those scanners so you could restore the cell band.
Sometimes it was as easy as pushing buttons.
Other scanners required solder and pliers to modify the motherboards.
I certainly did not ever attempt anything like this.
You also had to have a scanner that was made before July of 1994,
and it had to scan up to 900 megahertz, I guess.
So he goes on to say, a guy who was certainly not me could buy the scanners online, modify them, and resell them for four times what we paid.
Yes, you mostly heard go get bread and milk from the store when you listen, but maybe once a month you would hear something that would perk your ears up.
Nowadays, it's no fun. Digital phones and no one has landlines anymore. It was a great way for a poor college kid, certainly not me,
to make some money.
And now he goes out, I'll leave out the last line where he says now with the
very large holdings that he owns in a certain
genre of business that he should probably not be spreading these things about
someone, certainly not him, breaking a federal communications commission
regulations. But that's John. A lot of them out there.
there's one on every block from Minnesota. It's a big state.
That certainly can't prove anything by anybody.
A lot of John's out there and, of course, there's going to be a lot more because now with
Puff Daddy being arrested, a lot of these Johns aren't going to get work.
Thank you.
You did say you're feeling sick.
Are you possibly feverish or is that low blood pressure or cause you to come up with that
one?
My bad joke was better than this Radio Shack segment. What the hell is this?
I think I'm on line at Radio Shack
That's very interesting
That you could do those things back
And that's why that my mama
Cormett would not have trusted a lot of this modern communication
She said well this doesn't seem to be private
Who's the first person you knew to had a car
Yeah I guess that's what you said car phone
A phone in the car was back then
Yes it's car phone
That's where you put it was in your car
the first one that I ever saw
was somewhere
the Midnight Express and I
rented a goddamn
car when we were on the road
with Crockett and or TBS
and
no you know what I tell a lie
Flair had one I think
in that
I don't know
it was close but who
who's going to have a phone in their fucking car
in 1980 fucking five that I'm going to be
hanging out with. Wrestling promoter. Did Watts
have one? When you ran
over his car.
No, I didn't run over, I ran past his car. I didn't get to
look inside. I wasn't
I was not of status
where I could open a goddamn door on a
fucking Rolls-Royce and just be
sitting my sweaty ass down on the goddamn custom
up a holstery. Was Jim Ross
really spread eagles on top of the Rolls-Royce?
he was he was well see now the thing is it depends on what you say and what side top is
because he was spread eagled because i remember his stance was he had a wide stance with his feet
apart but he was waving his hands in the air in a manner of like he was trying to fucking
stop an airplane on a fucking tarmac and he's like get away from the car and he's standing
in front of it but he wasn't spread eagled on
on top of it
because hence then
he wouldn't have been able
to get up on top of the thing
so he was spread eagleed in front of it
that was the part of the story
I always found the funniest the idea he was trying to save
the car by being on top of it
well see before
I got there he may have tried to climb it
but it was a pointed fucking kind of
a pointy hood as I recall
and had an ornament
nevertheless
I got a couple of mentions also
that my birthday was not too
long ago. Remember? See, I told you
we're catching up with the viewers.
The cult of Cornett
out there come first today. This
fucking rassling. We can do
that later on.
I got a bunch of birthday cards
from everybody, cards and letters
as they say.
And I wanted to recognize a few other people.
I mentioned a few things I got early
a couple weeks ago, but boo from Al-Tuna
sent me a Wendy's gift card.
Say, how many people you got
sending you Wendy's gift cards from
Al-Tuna. I've never gotten or received a Wendy's gift card.
Well, if you modify your behavior, your chances would go up.
They got to bring back the grilled chicken sandwich. That was the best thing on their menu and they
got rid of it. Well, that's to make you want it when it comes back. Remember the McRib?
See, it's all about the marketing.
Joni Aries, the Queen of Cakes, as usual, but also sent me another fine album from her
father's collection, album and LP album type for you kids out there.
Grandpa Jones's greatest hits, which contains not only eight miles from Louisville,
but I'm my own grandpa.
Have you ever heard that song?
I don't think so.
You ought to look up fucking I'm my own grandpa by Grandpa Jones while I finish these
thank yous and you'll just laugh hysterically.
Did Charlie Daniels mention him?
No, just Wet Willie, Elvin Bishop, ZZ Top, and Dickie Betts.
Some idiots out there haven't even heard of Wet Willie.
That's right.
This episode may feel like a Wet Willie at this point.
Yes, Mark Cole sent me a copy of Bobby Sherman Comics No. 1.
Bobby Sherman?
The Charlton publication.
When we talk about the Teen Idols?
Yeah.
Well, he sent me a copy of Bobby Sherman Comics number one.
How many issues that they do?
Bobby Sherman had a little bit of a run, what, from like
late 60s into the early 70s, and he gave up his career?
Well, I don't know.
It's not my week to watch him, but I don't know what happened to his career,
but I know that I've got his comic book number one.
I don't know if there was even number two, but it was just, it was a curiosity he thought
he would send along.
He was like a teen idol.
Did he fight crime?
What's going on in the comic book?
No, it's him on the cover with his blue jeans on.
in his shirt and his hands in his pockets and his hair is tousled. And you know, actually,
we accused Eric Bischoff of looking like John Davidson all those years, but he looked like
John Davidson with a hint of Bobby Sherman. That was the thing that always got me for years.
People would say, Eric Bischoff looks like a game show host. No, he looked like one specific
game show host, John Davidson. That's it. That was the only game show host, whoever looked like
that. But think about it. If you went to central
casting, as they say in the film industry,
and you said, give me a game show host,
who would come out? It would be a 75-year-old man like Bob
fucking Barker. It would it be a guy that looked like
fucking John Davidson, aka Eric Bischoff with dark hair
in his prime? That's the classic, that's the
stereotype. See, that no wonder Bischoff is disgruntled.
He was stereotyped all those years.
What do you think of Gene Rayburn?
I used to, when I was a kid, I thought his name was Gene Rugburn.
I always wondered why he had that, the fucking, the long thing with the, the long mic with the little dot on top of it.
It looked like some type of doctor's probing apparatus that.
Yeah, certain guys had their mic style, the microphone they like.
Gene Rayburn had that.
Bob Barker had a very unique microphone that no one else uses.
See, if Saturday Night Live had been around like five years earlier,
they would have had a regular segment with Dan Aykroyd being Gene Rayburn
turning around with a three-foot long, fucking razor-sharp rapier,
the microphone that was stabbing people and putting their eyes out.
Anyway, you're elongating my thank yous.
This was just going to be brief until you got involved.
Because the next thing I'm very proud of,
and I'm going to put on my desk, Brian from Reno, Nevada,
has access to a 3D printer.
Have you seen now that?
I never even knew what a fucking
3D printer.
How the fuck does that work?
They're making a goddamn
3D Xerox copy
like the old 3D comics.
I got to put the glasses on.
I didn't know what the fuck it was.
The kids folks,
the kids out there,
are making things out of plastic.
I guess it's plastic, Brian, right?
It's a lightweight material.
You know, I'm not exactly sure I would think it is.
I have some stuff that's been 3D printed here.
It's plastic-ish.
But yet you can make any shape or any design or, you know,
any little thing at your heart desires, I guess, somehow.
And then you can paint it different colors.
It's like making your own model kit instead of putting it together
for people who are of adult age and who like me had no idea what fuck this was.
Anyway, guess what he sent me?
This is a white plastic urinal, just like you'd see on the wall in the bathroom and in the men's room,
a urinal with a plumbing connection on top and the flusher thing and everything that he's painted silver
and is very wonderful detailed work.
It looks just like a flusher.
and on the back of the inside of the urinal
in raised lettering painted in a bold black
lettering here lies
lies in italics
Vince Schittstein Russo
rot in pieces bro
it is Vince Russo's tombstone
as a and it even has
hear that that's that's
that's the hanger apparatus where I can hang it right here above my desk on the wall.
And it's even got a little place where a little bitty person could piss right into the urinal in the bottom
and it would fill up.
It's amazing.
It's a wonderful tribute to a toileting grate.
So I'm trying to...
A toileting grate.
A toileting grate.
Anyway.
And also, hold on, I've got to reach this.
Oh, God damn it.
My arms aren't long enough.
You're going to love this, Brian.
The book from Dan Rhino in St. Louis, I've mentioned him before.
He of the Emo's Pizza Sauce and etc.
sent me to pass.
Guess what the title of this book that he sent me by Ken Zimmerman Jr. is?
I know that name.
I should know what the book is.
Tell me what the book is.
Gotch versus Hackensmith.
That's right.
Yeah, I do have that book.
You have this book?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This, I mean, you know, with all due respect, and I have not even had time to begin reading.
Is that the book with the worst type?
Well, I was about to say, I just went to the post, I've picked it up, and I want to thank Dan, and I'm not disparaging the book in any way.
I know that probably double day or Simon and Schuster is probably already full.
filled up with books on Gotts v. Hackens Schmidt,
but this is a self-published book in the most apparent of ways.
But I'm sure it's a very informative book that I thought I was going to surprise you on.
You already got it.
Yeah, disappointed.
It's hard to read a book when it looks like shit.
I mean, I don't even know if the guy didn't get research or not.
See, that reflects on Dan now.
He doesn't reflect on Dan at all.
He did a nice stuff.
thing. Now, Ken Zimmerman, he's got something to answer to.
Well, I think what he's done is he's basically typed up a book report on what that they had in the newspapers at the time on this situation, which I think is a nice, handy little, little tome here to have all of that stuff in one little manuscript here.
But it's hardcover. Did you get a hard cover?
No, I got a soft cover, I think.
See, I got a hardcover.
That makes it worse.
I've never seen a hardcover where, and one of the people, it's,
I've never seen a hardcover self-published book like this,
and one of the two people that it's about,
his name is misspelled on the back cover of the book.
George has no E.
But otherwise, but thank you, Dan.
And here's where I was going with this, John from Rhode Island.
sent me an entire box, a stack of horror comic reprints.
Hold on here one second.
I'm trying to reach over and get this stuff.
Listen to this.
Boom.
And here's another, and here's a stack of, boom.
Vault of Horror number one.
Shock suspense stories.
Number one magazine-sized reprint books.
Obviously, they're not, he didn't send me.
you know, original
EC comics
rarities in the mail
but like a Haunt of Fear
reprint and then
several other comic-sized
reprints, Tales from the Crypt, the same title,
a
also a, hold on here, where am I looking at it?
Where is I going to find it here?
The God damn it.
The Night of the Living Dead,
25th anniversary tribute
of magazine.
So that would be
1993 and
a cool
oversized magazine size
Stephen King's creep show
Illustrated magazine, etc.
Several monsters
attack titles
and a nightmare
on Elm Street. So anyway, can you
imagine the generosity
and the fact that now
that he has sucked up to that extent,
he's got a package coming from me.
Because even I couldn't,
I'm out of breath trying to lift those things.
Even I couldn't take all that and not send something back.
So he's getting two-for-one coupon at the local PT strip club.
Hey, you know what I just got?
Fantagraphics just put out a collection of Jack Davis stories from EC Comics called
Foul Play, which has that famous story where they use a man's head as a baseball.
in the game, but some fine
artwork here for some really grotesque things.
Foul play from Fantagallos.
Well, there you go.
And speaking of fine artwork and some really grotesque things,
that leads me right into talking about
Cornett's collectibles at Jimcornett.com.
And the incredible holiday sale that is fast approaching us
that begins Saturday, October 5th at noon eastern
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it matches any of the other figures that you would like to have me manage and
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This one, if you buy any Midnight Express or Heavenly Bodies tag team set,
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Plus, the thank you, fuck you buy T-shirts are available
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It's got a lot of weight and heft and gravity to it, folks,
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And pictures now at the website on the homepage, front page.
What do they call it, Brian, the homepage?
Page six.
Hachkis wanted to do, what was it, the page?
two girl in England
he wanted to have various pictures of me
topless on page two
but I said just stick
to the front page
but anyway you can
see all that right now
and that's a public service
announcement for Cornett's
collectibles
all right
I've actually got a letter here
Brian and this is not
an email
I got this in a
along with a package for my birthday.
I told you
before we went on the air, I was going to
read something to you
you at first weren't going to believe because
when I first got this
I read like about
to the second sentence, I said, oh, okay,
bullshit. And then
I got a little bit further and realized
it also, besides the fact that of this letter,
he had sent pages
of documentation of here's the
YouTube links, and him being
interviewed about these
various topics
or even with the pictureed with these people
or the documentation
right?
So as preposterous
as all this shit sounds
that I'm about to say to you
it's actually legitimate
so I don't want anybody
think that this is a made-up
comedy bit somehow
in the program
but Brian would you like to hear
the email Richard Hunter
from
well fuck I forgot
his home is not on here
I assume he's from
out in Nevada as you'll
you'll get the when we read the
email or the letter
but Richard Hunter
would you like to hear what Richard has to say
of course this is going so well
well you know you don't need to be snide
just because you're goddamn
feeling puny today
as a loyal
listener see you're already
insulting the listeners.
I want you to know that I'm always amused when you and Brian reference an infamous moment
in prostitution history that I have a direct connection to.
Well, already it's starting in a way I did not expect.
Well, sometimes we talk about things that's going on in the news, Brian, right?
I didn't realize we were referencing infamous moments in prostitution history, no.
Well, he goes on to say, I was the manager of the...
Love Ranch in Nevada when Lamar Odom Odeed there and I was the one who called 911 and gave him CPR until paramedics arrived.
This is verifiable by Googling my name and his together, and I did, and it is.
As I subsequently had my face plastered on every media outlet from Good Morning America to Nancy Grace for about two weeks.
I even had someone portray me in a crime scene reenactment
as the concerned horror house proprietor who found a six foot
hold on here as the
I'm out of breath
as the concerned horror house proprietor
who found a six foot 10 inch NBA player at desk door
with two hysterical prostitutes in bed with him
now just stopping down here for a second
on the next episode of Hookers with a heart
they may not have had a heart
they may just have had a goddamn brain
so
I guess now it's been a while
right maybe for some of the kids out there
who had not attained
legal age of talking about this stuff
or hearing about this stuff that
Lamar Odom was the basketball player that OD'd
after spending like three days and untold tens of thousands of dollars in his
whorehouse in Nevada
and he took so many drugs to help him continue to do it
that he had like, didn't his heart just fucking blow out and his eyes
rolled back and he just went in a fucking coma, that kind of shit?
I think it's been a while. I don't even remember all the detail.
It's been a while since that's happened.
to you. And
yes, and he was
married and he was in the hospital
like for
potentially weeks as I recall
that this was some process where he was
like, maybe
they'd be good to me
because he was fucked up
and will he ever walk or
function or piss anywhere
but in his pants again
and not only is a big
rich NBA player but he's married
to one of the Kardashians, which
annoying Kardashian was it that he was married to?
The one that's clearly not in any way related to Robert Kardashian.
That one.
Did their relationship last the test of time?
Only time will tell if they'll last the test of time.
Did we tell it?
I believe they have both moved on.
Probably.
Well, he might have been in a wheelchair moving on.
So anyway, here Richard is involved in that.
And then Richard continues.
Back to Richard.
Or if we can call him now Dick.
A few weeks back when you and Brian referenced Liberace's former lover, Scott Thorson,
you remember that?
You were talking about that the other day.
Yeah, we mentioned him and then he died.
Yes.
And then we mentioned him again because he died.
Well, he's...
Richard says, I was again taken back to my time in the employee of that same house of ill-repe.
repute. In 2013, when the Michael Douglas Matt Damon movie behind the candelabra,
which we've talked about in the past, was released telling the story of Liberace and
Thorson, I discovered that the latter was simultaneously being held in a Reno jail on charges
of identity fraud. I convinced the brothel's owner, Dennis Hoff, have you seen this guy on
like Showtime and shit? Yeah, I remember that guy. He's been HBO, yeah.
well I knew it was one of those things
he said I convinced the bravils owner
Dennis Hoff a shameless self-promoter
who proudly called himself
the PT Barnum of Pussy
to bail Thorson out of jail
and move him into the bravill as a PR stunt
where he became an official greeter
to the Bordello's patrons
for a number of months until he was eventually
sent back to prison for parole violations
during his stay with this, I became his personal minder
and actually found him to be a very kind soul with a tragic propensity
for being in the wrong place at the wrong time,
like the Forrest Gump of Hollywood debauchery.
So he not only tried to save Lamar Odom,
but he tried to reform Liberace's lover.
And it gets better.
he's also
That's my Liberace
Ladies and gentlemen
I'm sorry
Richard is also a fan of
Remember what I said
That my friend out in Eastern Kentucky
Sent me the Tojo Yamamoto
Album
Oh yeah
The noise rock
Conceptualist
Involving the newest member
of ZZ Top and blah blah blah
That's right
Well he said I was actually
I was actually going to send you
The Tojo Yamamoto album
For your birthday
but he already heard that I got it,
so he sent me a Tojo Yamamoto hoodie,
a band hoodie,
with Tojo Yamamoto on it.
Do I need a better description?
I think you've described it just fine.
Okay, well, you're just, you're not even saying,
well, that's cool.
Does it have an image of Tojo?
Yes.
Is his family getting a cut?
Well, it's got the goddamn,
just Tojo Yamamoto and the,
stars and the fucking
would you stop now
trying to create trouble
I'm looking for a new client and I hear that
the Yamamoto family is looking for representation
if you ever overdose
in bed with two hookers out of the
fucking love ranch
then I bet you Richard won't
save you if you don't straighten up
and finally
that'll be the day I have to pay for it
give me a break
well you'll pay for it or they'll rough you up
in the back alley I found that one
out the hard way
but finally here's another goddamn now brian you've got to listen to this now is this still
richard is another yes this is still richard he's in everything he's involved in everything
also enclosed is a DVD documentary about the 53 pit bulls that were rescued from former
NFL quarterback michael vicks dog fighting ring oh my god wow yeah how was he involved in that
well hold on by the this is not richard this is me
but I'm sure Richard would probably vouch for it.
Fuck Michael Vic,
that piece of fucking shit.
I can't believe they let him come back and play football.
If those goddamn big, tough football players
had one goddamn ounce of balls in their body
they'd have told whoever the fuck owned those teams,
we're not getting on the field with this piece of shit.
Except if we do, we're going to stick our cleats up his ass
and they should have run him out of the goddamn thing.
But never they ought to be at prison for the rest of.
rest of his fucking life.
Because fuck you, Michael Vick,
and what the fuck are you going to do about it?
You know what the ought to have done?
They ought to time down in the courthouse square.
Poor fucking honey all over.
Spread eagle.
Poor honey all over him.
Put some fire ants on him and whatever's left over.
Let the fucking kids in the neighborhood,
12 and under for 10 cents get to kick him in a fucking head.
And adults, for 25 cents,
get to kick him in a fucking balls.
to keep the price cheap so everybody can be involved,
and then put him in a fucking rocket
and blast his worthless ass to the moon.
But that's just my opinion.
Fucking piece of shit.
Anyway.
Again, what's Richard's involvement with it?
I'm about to tell you.
I will tell you right now.
My girlfriend and I, this is Richard speaking again,
my girlfriend and I are featured in this documentary
as we adopted one of those pit bulls from the
sanctuary that they were sent to after the police raid on Vic's House of Horrors.
And our dog Mel lived to be almost 15 years old before peacefully passing away at a ripe old age.
Eddie was actually the sweetest and most loving dog I've ever known.
So they have three other rescued pit bulls.
And finally, in his personal connection to me, when I was 10 years old, you scream
at me ringside of Will Rogers Coliseum in Fort Worth that you were going to have your
mother's lawyers sue all of us. And my mom then had to explain to me what a lawsuit was.
Thank you for not following through on that. So that Richard has been, I'd say he's been following
me, but he's been following everybody. Wow. And I guess he left the prostitution business?
I think maybe he's running the whole thing. Didn't that Dennis Hoff dive some kind of goddamn
He did, but I thought he said at the beginning.
I thought he said he was a former friendly
whorehouse owner or whatever it was.
Well, that's what, you know,
sometimes you have to say, Brian.
But anyway, wink, wink, wink.
Thank you, Richard.
Well, I'll tell you, you know,
here's the thing with Lamar fucking Odom.
What was it he had?
He had been taking the ecstasy
and who knows that
those designer drugs, the crack and the ecstasy
and the things they mix together in the bathroom
say, well, you need all natural things.
If you're going to take supplements,
you're going to take things to help you with your health
and your rest and your various daily life
and to dull the pain of the existence
on this cold, cruel, blue marble in the sky,
you can't be just using shit to people
mix up in underneath their bathroom sink or stuff that you need to call a doctor if it takes
effect for more than four hours and you can't use that for four days straight see you need to be
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Well, not your health specifically, Brian, but the royal you, all of your health-nesses out there,
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All the lovely people of the world, how would you say that and bring them all in on?
I don't know if there's a way to say, because I don't even know what the hell you're trying to say.
The health of all the people?
The health of all the people?
All the health of all the people?
All the health of all the people.
Well, there you go.
That's why I was asking.
See, that's why you went to school.
That's why I have you here.
I went to community college for two years.
Well, they see, they taught you something.
You know, when I was in school, the teacher said I was the most brilliant students she ever had.
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And if 90% of the people say it, then it must be true.
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No, I mean, different people have
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All right, Brian, well, nobody's going to get a good amount of sleep
and nobody's going to be calm until we answer the most pressing question
on the minds of everybody today around the wrestling world,
the hot issue that everybody's talking about it.
Who's Danny Garcia going to sign with?
Well, Daniel Garcia, to be clear,
Danny Garcia is the gigantic wife or ex-wife of the rock,
not the AEW wrestler.
Well, if you're friends with him,
do you have to call him Daniel?
Can you maybe Dan?
Maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe Big D.
You don't got to call him Daniel.
This is a story because we've been talking about the idea that WWE,
I guess they went and made a play for swerve,
and swerve signed a renewal with AEW that was for an amount that WWE was shocked by.
The thought was that the same thing is going to happen with Daniel Garcia.
And now there's a headline and a bunch of the listeners have been sending this over this morning.
From the Wrestling Observer Newsletter website by Ian Carey,
AEW less confident Daniel Garcia will resign.
Ooh.
If I go to the article here, AEW is not as confident.
as they once were that Daniel Garcia will re-sign with the company.
Always repeat the headline as the first sentence, I guess.
Last month, it was reported that while Garcia and AEW had not come to terms on a new deal,
the promotion believed he was most likely staying.
However, our own Dave Meltzer noted on last night's wrestling observable radio...
I'm glad they claim him.
Noted on last night's Wrestling Observer Radio that AEW is...
is no longer as certain as they once were.
Why don't we stop there for a second?
Again, Daniel Garcia's contracts coming out.
What was the last, was the last time we saw him
when he wrestled MJF at the pay-per-view?
Well, that's right.
Where is Danny?
He hasn't been on TV.
He laid out MJF bad enough that MJF is selling injuries
and is off television,
and now Danny Garcia hurt MJF so bad Danny Garcia's selling the injuries and he's off television.
So I don't understand.
One would think that if they wanted to capitalize on what they did at the pay-per-view,
they would have the guy that triumphantly slayed the dragon, MJF,
and got even for the treacherous and horrible things that have been done to him
and blah, blah, blah, to come and crow about it.
but instead he's hidden too.
So that means they're ashamed.
They'll probably have buyers' remorse now for what they did on the pay-per-view
because if the knucklehead doesn't come back,
then the last time we saw him in the company was
he's a fucking middle card bleh
who laid out the top heel in the company.
Harley has an allergy, by the way, for those that might be listening in.
So how does that make sense, Brian,
that they would have both of them off television
and why, if you didn't know that this guy was coming back,
would you have him lay out the top guy in the company?
Well, let's see if this explains that.
Here's a quote from Dave Meltzer.
As far as what's going to happen with him,
I would say this.
I would say that the almost surety
or the strong confidence that he was signing,
I wouldn't say it's as strong,
but I wouldn't say that he's leaving either.
But it may not be as strong as it was a month ago.
He may leave.
What or what?
I don't know what I just read.
Was that?
That's a quote, right?
As far as what's going to happen with him,
I would say this.
All right, so this is what he's saying.
I would say that the almost surety
or the strong confidence that he was signing,
I wouldn't say it's as strong,
but I wouldn't say that he's leaving either,
but it's not as strong as it was a month ago.
He may leave.
Are these lyrics on like another level?
Yes, I think, yes.
He's singing from both sides of the relationship.
I do believe it's not as strong as it was last month.
whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa
he may stay
he may leave
Melzer
Thank you I must be going
might be the new theme song
they play on Saturday nights
Meltzer continued to say that Garcia
not being on AEW programming of late
is due to his not having re-signed
Meltzer says
Tony Kahn is often hesitant to put talent
on AEW programming
if he feels they are likely going to leave the company
when their contracts are up.
Hence Mero in Bulgaria for five years.
They will send him to the Russian front.
Here's a quote from Dave.
If they believe somebody's not going to sign,
and that's why a lot of guys that you see or don't see,
there's a reason that you don't see
because the belief is when their contract is up,
they are going to go.
And if that's the case,
Tony's just not going to put them on T's.
TV. He could go in there and job them, but some of them complain.
But some of them complain? But some of them complain.
Oh, my God. He just didn't want to put them on TV in a lot of cases. I think we've seen that.
And with that, we want to say a lot of Ricky Starks out there in Texas. We hope you're doing well.
We hope to see you soon.
Is he one of the sick and shut-ins and listens to our program?
Oh, okay, but back up. Back the fuck up a second. How long before the end of your contract?
How long? I could understand. Yeah, the fuck, he's checked out. He's six weeks, his contract is up, whatever the fuck him. We don't need him anyway, put so-and-so or whatever. But a year and a fucking half, when we don't see some of these, there are plenty of people.
people that we don't see for a year, year.
And then they come back.
And they're back for a while.
And then they go away. So you can't really tell.
But how long before these alleged people's contracts are up, does he just say, oh, just
go home and I'll mail you a check every week?
Because a lot of these people are gone for a long fucking time.
So then is that that's the move?
That's the thing.
That's the move.
Yeah.
If you sign for three.
years is it going to be that you only have to work the first two and then just let
them know I'm fucking I ain't happy and you get the extra years of bonus listen I'm a
wrestler my family want to spend time with me day one I announce I'm signing with WWE in three
years and then I go home and then I go home and then when he brings me in I tell him that I complain
about the booking and I complain about who he wants me to job to and then he sends me home
and pays me more I like this is the wrestler's dream
Garcia, who turned 26 last week,
debuted in AEW on an episode of Dark in September 2020,
AEW announced he signed a full-time deal in October 2021,
Garcia is a former Ring of Honor Pure Champion,
and the current pro wrestling guerrilla world champion.
But only in the orangutan division.
You know, again, if I know there's, there's,
there's being sure and there's taking people's words and I've been the victim of trying
to believe the best of people in the past.
But he didn't even deserve to be in a pay-per-view match with MJF.
It's just, he just a piece of goddamn cake with no icing.
It's fine.
It's just there.
It needs something maybe later down the road, whatever the fuck.
But when it's MJF and it's your,
top heel and the guy hasn't signed and he's all just fucking hospitalized MJF, it'll be all right.
And beyond that, and take Daniel Garcia out of the picture, it could be any wrestler.
If your philosophy is, I don't know if I'm going to resign him, so I'm going to keep him off TV.
Why did you just spend months building him up?
They just built him up for the MJF thing.
He lost the match, got the pile drivers at the end, and then he disappeared.
What sense did that make?
Was that a better feud than MJF versus
Hecichero?
Oh, I forgot about
Chichia.
Uh,
uh,
and he,
and so if Garcia doesn't,
well,
here's,
this is goddamn.
This is going to make him a baby face in AEW when he resigns that.
But he,
no,
here's what he's done.
Here's what he's done.
Because Tony seems to me to have
an orderly mind on,
about these things,
about his ideas. He wants his ideas to come to fruition.
So now he knows if this knucklehead
doesn't sign again,
then MJF will never get his revenge,
so he's automatically got to pay him more to make sure that he resigns
because elsewise Tony's big angle
will be all for naught.
That's what it is. Because
I've got to be honest with you,
what is the WWE wanting there that they haven't got?
What attribute of Garcia's are they wanting to purchase there
that they don't have people that have multiple examples of that particular talent or skill
or whatever the case?
I don't know.
I don't know what their motivation is or isn't.
But if you're Garcia and this is true...
Or are they just trying to drive Tony's fucking payroll up again?
If you're Garcia and this is true, and you have Tony's...
Con offering you above market value versus
WWE offering you fair or maybe even below fair
market value to come in, but you'll be in NXT and you'll be part of
it. The system. The vortex.
You know, you never know what happens and, you know,
give someone like that a couple of years in NXT. Who knows?
Who knows how they develop with real, you know, I'm not even going to get
into his initial training. He's been in AEW for a few
years, we hear from enough people and we know enough about what's going on there. That's not a
great place to grow and learn. And who knows what NXT would do for him. Also, Brandon Thurston
trained him. Brandon Thurston of WrestleManiaics. If this kid has a couple bitters, he's also got
people he could talk to about what the hell should I do? Well, yeah, you know, he should be a human
calculator. So he's got that going for him. What would you do if you were him?
I jump off a bridge.
Seriously, all that money from Tony for three or five years
versus three-year deal from WWE, they send you to NXT.
We'll see how it goes.
You're not going to make as much.
You have to move to Florida.
From what I've seen of Mr. Garcia,
if I was Mr. Garcia, I'd take Tony's money.
if now if if Garcia in five years is a big star and I'm not talking about if Tony's still around
I'm talking about as a big star in this business probably in the WWE to be a big star in
this business then I will you can play me the tape of those words and I'll cut up the tape and
eat it on the air yeah I don't know if that would benefit anyone so we're not going to do
that? Well, that's something we can build to. We can advertise. Garcia's got five years from
right now to become a superstar or elsewise, I'm going to have to eat tape on the air.
This is how I can tell you're becoming a goddamn, this is programming here. This is the sign that
you're aging right here. It used to be just a few years ago. I will strip naked and march down
Main Street playing songs and singing and dancing. Well, it's something now that I have the
energy to really do that I would do. But see, it's long-term storytelling because people will be
count down the time will he have to eat his words if you know you have someone you as a booker
like and want to do things with and their contracts coming up in a year or six months or three
months or six weeks how do you treat it well if it's coming up in a a fucking year you still
try to get as much out of them as you can get and you don't if they become a superstar you'd
like to keep them, you pay them more if they get over real good. But there's no reason to start
fucking usher to get out the door. He's going to be with you for a year. Six months to 90
days, you know, well, let's start thinking about what's going on. Do I have a spot for him or
is somebody else I'd like to bring in and be fresh or whatever? And then talk to him.
Is he want to hang around, or is he got interest in going somewhere else?
But not a year and certainly not.
Next month, your contract's up.
What the fuck?
Would you like to pile drive some people and incapacitate them and then decide later?
There's some middle ground in between that.
Well, that's AEW contract news.
Speaking of...
And Dave Meltzer turning into Captain Beefheart.
what it's it's just
it's just
it
I used to think
you know
and there was
I'll just make this
brief comment
there was some element
of I know he's just rushing
to type some things right
you could overlook that
but now it's like
how does he think that way
and come out the other end of it
and speaking
coming out the other end
that's a good transition
the Vince McMahon Netflix thing
by the time the people hear this
will have been flung upon the world
but it's still
what 36 hours away from us
so we are going to
be trying to cover this whole thing
on the drive-through
six hours of Vince McMahon's life
we may all go to hell just for watching it
right
but that's your program
so you're you're
cracking the whip on me.
I can't wait to watch this.
I think it's going to be a big thing.
And, of course, now here ahead of it,
a day ahead of it, two days ahead of it,
Vince McMahon issuing a statement preemptively.
He's already trying to temper expectations, right?
And I believe last week,
Janelle Grant's attorneys held a very short press conference
just saying that, you know, her case is real
and whatever the producers do here.
I think, at least initially,
there's distrust on one side, and now it appears that distrust with the producers is coming from Vince.
Let me pull up the quote here. Any comments or thoughts on it? Well, yeah, because I said the
statement that grants people, grants people, sounds like we're talking about appomatics,
the fucking, that Grant's attorneys put out was just kind of, hey, you know, heads up, remember
this is still an ongoing thing and we
you know we don't know how this
Netflix thing is going to turn out or you know whatever just stating
their position
but then Vince actually
because they they
really don't
they have no reason to have discovery
over anything related to that
because Vince never spoke to him after
this allegation in Janelle Grant
was made public so they're in the dark like a lot of
people are that haven't actually seen the thing yet.
Well, Vince,
Vince is in it.
Well, I was about to say Vince is in it.
And Vince is apparently seen at least some of it.
Because he's already, as you said, preemptively, going, well, now, wait a minute.
Go ahead.
And actually, it should be noted because that happened before this, Dave Meltzer is saying
that Vince attempted to purchase the film back from Netflix, which is something Oprah
Winfrey just did. Apple did, I think it was Apple, did a documentary about her. She hated the way it
turned out, bought it back, suppressed it. And Vince made an attempt, oh shit, I agreed to this.
It's all gone to hell in a handbasket. I'm going to buy it back and they wouldn't sell it back
to him. And then according to Dave Meltzer, Vince tried to get Ari Emanuel to do something about it.
And nothing was done. Well, for Vince to actually go to a big brother, that's a
very unusual. And now one thing that I have been
reliably informed on is that Vince
did indeed sit down for this. You've seen him in the trailer. He did
speak to these people and he was in support of or had
people close to him support the thing until
the, not even Janelle Grant, but just the first
allegation or revealment of an NDA for
the payments made for
improper things with women. Whoever that first one was, my
God, it's been so long ago, Brian.
But that was when
he stopped talking
to these people and I would assume the people
that he would have
given the okay to talk to, they stopped talking to them.
So they don't have any
footage of
him talking about
the last couple years.
but that doesn't mean they're not going to be covering it
because they can't just leave it to a graphic at the end of the screen
at the end of, you know, episode six.
That's probably why it's taking so long from the time that we heard
it was going to be coming out until it actually is out
because they found out they had a lot more fish to fry, so to speak.
And again, we're thinking about just Janelle Grant,
the Rita Chatterton thing,
led to him paying her millions of dollars for it to go away.
So now that that happened after the production,
there's something that I think happened in 86 or 87
that if they're telling the story in order,
there'll be some reference there.
We don't know.
But here's the statement Vince McMahon released on Twitter.
Now you're going to hurt yourself.
I'm sorry, I was just preparing myself.
That's what Janelle said.
You're going to hurt yourself.
Oh, come on, we'd be nice.
What the hell kind of comment is that?
Let's get to this statement here.
That didn't mean she was out of shape.
I don't regret participating in this Netflix documentary.
The producers had an opportunity to tell an objective story about my life
and the incredible business I built,
which were equally filled with excitement,
drama, fun, and a fair amount of controversy, and life lessons.
Unfortunately,
based on an early partial cut I've seen
this dock falls short
and takes a predictable path
of conflating
the Mr. McMahon character
with my true self
Vince
the title and promos alone
make that evident
a lot has been misrepresented
or left out entirely in an effort
to leave viewers intentionally confused
the producers
use typical editing tricks
with out-of-context footage
and dated sound bites,
etc., to distort the viewers'
perception and support
a deceptive narrative.
In an attempt to further
their misleading account,
the producers use a lawsuit
based on an affair
I ended as evidence
that I am, in fact,
Mr. McMahon.
And it wasn't me, it was her.
she was the one in the wrong
I kicked her out
I hope the viewer will keep an open mind
and remember
there are two sides
to every story
Oh boy
So already
He's
Already he's pulling the editing
And oh my gosh
And it's a
Don't believe your eyes and ears
And the things of people say in this
It was altered
Are you surprised that we're getting it here
Just a couple days out
I mean, this is something, when pushed against the wall, he's taken to the air in the past,
whether it was the steroid thing, whether it was right as it was starting up and then when he won the trial,
or with the attacks on the content being Russo-Ithic and everything kind of degenerating into the late 90s period of just no class anywhere in society.
You know, he went to the airwaves and he explained that, you know, we're not going to be old-fashioned.
and we're going to take a new approach.
And, you know, this is something he tends to do.
You surprised that there's no video statement?
Well, probably not, but are you surprised the only statement is right now, two days out?
Well, see, before he had a platform, which I don't know that he's particularly welcome, you know, at the tower, the new tower.
and to be honest, I'm wondering if he knows now that he ain't got it,
he ain't got the energy, he doesn't come off well, is he finally,
because that's an awful polite statement, denial, you know,
issue muddying tweet or whatever from Vince that the old Vince may have been more direct
and in your face and
fuck off and etc.
Does he realize
that he hadn't got the look
or the energy or the voice
or the wherewithal
to match the old Vince?
Is he trying to stay low-key
and nice old man?
At what point does he get Kevin done
to produce his own documentary
about himself?
I'm not even joking.
What did Vince get when he sold the company?
He got the rights to his name
and his likeness,
not the footage, obviously,
but he got a lot of rights.
that most people wouldn't get.
And Kevin Dunn's also
his biggest all-time lackey.
And he got $2 billion
so he wouldn't have to worry about financing
the flick.
But yeah, and that's from a partial
I viewed a partial cut.
Jesus Christ.
Otherwise, and the whole thing
is a complete propaganda piece
put together by the
interior department of Stalinism or whatever.
that's from a part of it I saw
That's the thing
Focus on my business and how big I built it
Not everything I did along the way
Janelle Grant's attorney
And Callis
No relation
Issued a statement
Vince McMahon
Physically and Emotionally abused
Sexually assaulted
And human traffic Janelle Grant
For more than two years
Calling his horrific
And criminal behavior
an affair, an affair is delusional and nothing more than a sad attempt to save his shredded reputation.
Although Miss Grant has not seen the Mr. McMahon docu-series, we hope it shines a bright light on his abhorrent and criminal actions by accurately portraying the realities of his abusive and exploitive behavior.
Ms. Grant will no longer be silenced by McMahon.
Her story, though deeply troubling and emotionally painful,
is one that could help other abuse survivors find their voices.
We seek to hold McMahon, John Laurenitis, and WWE, accountable,
and to give Ms. Grant her day in court.
Boy, howdy, old Johnny Ace is always sandwiched right in between the big man,
Alphonse, Scarface himself, and the rest of the Chicago,
mob, isn't he? It's like he's Frank Nitty.
He was Vince's guy, I mean, to the point where they were doing this shit together in the office,
do you think Johnny Ace is going to be one of the talking heads in the documentary,
up until like the point where Vince stopped cooperating?
I don't know because this still, it's Netflix, and would they want his head to talk
just for the aesthetics of it?
Well, then you could point out that he's the other party accused of being a party to this.
I'm just thinking when they, when they set him down and they closed in on the headshot for the sitting down interview, they say, oh, fuck that fucking face.
Jesus Christ, just pass on him.
Well, the anticipation is building.
I mean, this is going to be some kind of fucking documentary.
Apparently, we were wrong.
It's not going to be 3 a.m.
It may debut at midnight, at which case that we may have to pushback recording.
I may stay up all night.
Oh, wait, what, now, hold on now.
Hold on now.
Well, that midnight is 3 a.m.
depending on which side of the night.
the country, which side of the country are they on?
Are they on the right side or the left side?
Maybe it's 3 a.m. Eastern.
Well, I'll see it in the morning, but six hours.
How are they going to fill up six hours?
Oh, there's, if there are people not only willing to tell stories about Vince McMahon, but also
there are plenty of stories to tell about Vince McMahon and plenty of things to cover
in his life, you can.
could fill six hours, it just remains to be seen, I think, how poor Vince ultimately himself
in the documentary and his, his rather sullied reputation or whatever they said is going to come
off. In the end of it.
You see, can't talk anymore.
See, that kind of thing might work against him now, whereas before he could, he was like
Anthony Perkins.
What he were he could talk like, even though there was.
there's a psycho in there somewhere he could talk like an innocuous,
regular everyday person, and then he suddenly slapped
fucking Bob Costas' notebook out of his hand or whatever the fuck is going on.
But now it's just, he's hunched over
grumbling, oh man, you know how to talk about the
never notwithstanding.
And now it's just, it's weird.
It's weird.
This is a great buildup for Shane McMahon's return, I think.
Well, yeah, no, he's going to AEW,
because that angle with the plumber ripping off an independent flick from Australia
30 years ago proves that Shane McMahon will soon be working and,
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Well, I'll tell you, the last time he came into the studio,
I reached in my back pocket to pull my wallet out and shook hands with that guy.
Now would you like to talk about SmackDown?
We got to catch up with the WWE, because the last program we did,
we caught up with the AEW.
And now we've got to give them equal time.
Over the weekend, they had the Smackdown and the Raw.
And I'll tell you.
Over the weekend, it's Smackdown and Raw.
Friday and Monday. That's over the weekend.
What, what, what, I mean, that's literally over the weekend as in it doesn't touch, it doesn't
touch the weekend. Well, across the way, would you rather me say across the weekend?
What do you just, see, that's why you're just questioning everything.
I don't understand why you bring the weekend into it. It's the week. Those, that's the start
of the end of the week. Since the last time that you and I spoke to do one of these programs,
it has gone from Friday night to Monday or to Tuesday morning.
right and this is the wrestling that has happened over that weekend in the sense that before and after
the weekend yes monday's not monday night's not the weekend unless it's a holiday weekend which one
of us is alvarez in this now it's not my job anyway the smackdown for september 20th i just wanted
to acknowledge a couple of things that went on because it has been a few days ago now but i wanted
to call attention to a couple of things.
And one of them is to help one of the people
that I hold dear to my heart.
Not you.
But they were in Sacramento, California
at 14,549 people.
In Sacramento.
I apologize to the people of Sacramento,
but Sacramento's not known
historically for being a major
goddamn wrestling capital, is it?
I remember back in the 90s they weren't doing 15,000 fucking people.
But, I mean, again, just the look of the show is even when they do the
the wrestling tropes, as the kids say, the backstage stuff,
and this is shot at least more professionally, or it looks like more thought has gone into it,
or there's some extra level of professionalism to whatever, right?
Do you agree with me on that from the WW program to the AEW programs?
Not even just that, from WW programs to WW5 years ago.
Everyone always talked about WW production, how good it was.
They were good at being static and looking great at that,
but now we've seen a whole new level of production.
This is major league like it's never been before.
Yeah.
the
the WWE
stopped progressing
with the great production
when they were
the WWF practically
because of the Kevin Dunn
era they got the reputation
for being good
and stayed just good enough
to be good, right?
But this is a whole other level
of stuff.
But having said that,
let me call your attention
to something at the top of the program.
Because we would scoff at this
if it was done in AEW
and at the same point
while it was done
it was done more seriously here
and more shot somewhat more well done
etc
I still they're gonna fucking
they're gonna burn this thing out
with the bloodline
or they're going to lose this thing
as the guys used to say
when they were complained to the booker
we're going to lose this thing
the bloodline come
into the arena earlier and they're in the back
and they're having to come through a
metal detector like they're entering the
courthouse or whatever
and they want to be seen
or portrayed as
malevolent, gangsters
whatever. So
Toma Tonga comes through first
and he kind of blows off the guy
trying to pat him down
and then Tonga Loa
comes there, get away from me
but Jacob Fatu
comes through,
the sets the thing off,
and when the guy goes to pat him down,
he headbutts him
and super kicks him and beats up
the other guys, and boom, boom.
Right, and normally, I would say
bullshit, and I have to say bullshit here,
even though it looked better
than normal
when these things are done,
except for
Jacob Fatu needs to quit doing
these fucking head butts.
Because it's his go-to, it's his nervous
tick now in
a match if he doesn't
if he's not ready to do
the next other thing he's going to do he's going
to headbut a guy or he
the headbutt backstage they don't
look that good he's got so many
things that he can
do that look amazing
unless he's going to draw back and really
headbut to motherfucker
which I don't recommend
he needs to drastically
cut back on him
but if you've got him
the reason why that he has gotten over
more quickly than anybody else
in the bloodline
saga has gotten over
when they were first introduced
is because he can do all that
impressive stuff
and they have had him do it
to top main event talent
but if they start making him
another one of these regular guys that
is doing
way too much bullshit
back in the back to people
that's
if they want to get him over
as a real life tough guy
let him snatch a motherfucker by the neck
and intimidate him
and shove him down on his ass
but he doesn't have to do super kicks
to the goddamn staff
do you see where I'm going with this
it takes a level of believability
away from him
that his talent gives him
in general
role. I've never been a big fan of certain headbutts. Sometimes it looks good. Ria Ripley makes it
always look and sound good, but that's a different way that most people have ever done it.
But like the headbutt off the top rope onto an opponent, to me that's something that
as a fan I never like because it just doesn't, it doesn't look, it has to be explained because
it doesn't look like the head's just balking off the head. It looks like the head's hitting
something else. I haven't noticed that Jacob Fatu's.
has been overdoing it.
Obviously, you saw him at the beginning of his career.
Well, no, I'm talking about just what I saw on this show
and just the last couple of weeks,
whether he's in an angle or in a match,
a transition thing, if he's dropped an elbow on a guy,
he might pick the guy up and just do the headbutt to him
as he's going back to tag or whatever.
But it's a lot of them, and they don't look stunning.
And it's a smaller move.
if he was going to
fucking grab a guy by his hair
with his left hand and rare
back like goddamn
you know one of the 60s
fucking guys and do the big
Cocoa butt boom may be okay
but just these little short
head butts
from this otherwise
incredibly impressive guy
I think he's just
it's a crutch he's using he's relying
to punch the guy at least
because it's easier for the people in the cheap seats
to see when you punch
than when you're doing his little tight fucking headbuts.
It's a little piccadillo, but nevertheless.
I think the problem is also, not the headbutts,
that's a minor chap of my ass.
But the main thing is
they can't start having Jacob actually come out
and start burning people's house down or whatever
because he's got some credibility and some believability,
but I don't want them to just do too much of this
where people go,
eh, yeah, you know what I mean,
but the first match was the yeah guy
for the United States title
LA Knight and Andrade.
Did you watch this match?
This match was really good.
Yes, it's good.
It was good.
And the whole thing was done
to set up another match between,
Andrede and Carmelo.
I say the problem is
LA night is really over
and these people in
Sacramento, because that's close to L.A.
This is hometown.
They love him
and they like to see this thing and they had a good match
so they got to people into it.
But Andrade as a
just a regular
you know, habit is kind of me.
And so, you know, it was what it was.
But basically, you know, they ended up, L.A. night wins.
Hayes makes fun of fucking Andrade in the back for losing and they get in a big fight
and now they're going to have another fucking, they've had like six matches or they're
doing a best of seven or whatever the fuck they're doing.
What are they doing?
Well, I mean, if they put a limit on this?
Because they were, they showed their, their record at one point, the graphics, they've had six fucking matches.
Or this is going to be the sixth or whatever.
You don't have any idea whether there's a thing.
Because you just, so then you were, oh, you didn't watch this?
This was a great match.
Now you know absolutely nothing about what was going on.
I don't pay attention to the commentary, especially if it's like, it's a game on or something.
I watched a match and I was really impressed with the match
and I started listening to the commentary by the end of it.
I thought it was a hell of a run there at the end of that match
and the fans are really into it.
And it's not because they're in Sacramento.
I think L.A. Knight has proven
almost every place they go is his hometown based on the reactions.
The problem is, who's he going to work with?
There's no one, I shouldn't say that,
but it doesn't feel like there's anyone at that kind of level
that's a heel for him to bounce off that would work right now.
Maybe I'm just not thinking of the person.
I don't know.
Yeah.
See, that's the problem.
Who do you envision him working with?
I can't even think of what the guy would be.
They got a bunch of top people,
but they haven't been putting him in with any of them since the Logan Paul thing.
And he's got Zebel,
but,
you know,
his challengers list is less than scintillating.
But that's,
you know,
that's the thing.
is that all of their matches now on television,
except for some of the girls or whatever,
they're going to be reasonably good
because all these guys are professional
and they've been trained and et cetera, et cetera,
and they're not going to, you know,
have egregious fuck-ups in the most part
and flop dollars gone,
so we can't even look forward to that anymore.
But at the same time,
you don't care about, you know,
what's going to happen in a lot of these,
matches. But people live are having a wonderful time. And that pretty much covers that,
doesn't it? I guess that about covers it. And like I said, LA night's still over. And the match was
really good. But last week, if you remember when we did the ratings, Andrade versus Carmelo was the
lowest, the lotus, was the lowest, it was the lowest, it was the lowest rated quarter of the
entire show, even though it still did 1.6-something million viewers. Hello, can you go? We're going to
talk about that a minute too with their ratings
on USA now but
everybody was wanting us to comment on or talk about
or whatever the
the heist movie that they filmed
the big Hollywood
blockbuster motion picture
summit meeting of the
two dons
from the dairy it could be like
in the old days instead of
Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns it could have
been James Cagney and Humphrey Bogart
or Al Pacino and Robert De Niro
Or Leo Gorsi and Hunts Hall
They met on the east side
They're at the Bowery where the dead end was
And the group of kids
I love this thing
Did you not like this thing
And the Rock bought them all six SUVs for them
Yeah really
You know I'm conflicted
I really thought it was well done
and I guess it's come out
Paul Heyman personally directed it.
See, he has more in common with Alfred Hitchcock
than you people realized.
I thought it was really good, but, you know,
I've thought this, the last couple of promos
about Cody, that he's starting
to get too much into the talking like bullshit again.
No one's going to be able to relate to him pretty soon
if he keeps talking the way he's talking.
He's always wanted to be an actor.
He excelled in this kind of thing.
Roman Raines, we've heard that he's wanted to be an actor.
I think he's relying too much on his facial twitches and ticks.
Like it's at a point now where I just don't buy it at all.
They were both really good in this,
but it was a fucking cinematic thing where as they're walking up,
there's a camera behind them,
and then you see them from the front, the camera's gone,
and then there's a camera to the side,
but then they show you that side.
They immediately showed you everywhere the camera was
in the previous shot and there's no camera.
So I have a problem.
with that. I don't like that kind of stuff mixed in with the wrestling, but as a little mini-movie,
like, I don't know, thriller. I don't know exactly. And then they should have broke out
the zombie dance. Can you see Cody and Roman if they'd have done it? Doon, do, do, do, do, do.
But no, but here's the thing. I'm not offended by the cinematic presentation when nobody's
having a fight. When it's not a win. If they want to, because let's face it.
it. This was a big
time looking deal and people don't
even know what we're talking about. Roman Reigns
and Cody Rhodes had a face-to-face
meeting in Atlanta
on the
Georgia Tech football field
where Roman had played football
for Georgia Tech.
And
they have the incredible
the drone shots now and all this
shit of these
this row of black SUVs pulling up
like six or seven of them. And Roman
gets out of one, and I don't know who else was in every other one of them, but, and then Cody
pulls up, and what kind of sports car was that, Mr. Last? You're a young person.
I don't know. I don't buy sports car. Was that a Lambert Dotson or a fucking...
It was a waste of money, I believe. A Bentley Geeney.
Can't even declare that on your taxes like you can, the big truck. But whatever. Waste of money.
Well, maybe it was a diesel engine, though. Remember what those were actually cheaper?
See, that's what he should have done.
That was the move.
If he had showed up in like a fucking Honda Civic,
Roman wouldn't have known what to think.
No, that would have been a dusty thing.
Dusty would have showed up in a pickup truck.
Well, but it would have been an old pickup truck.
Anyway, Cody pulls up in one sports car,
but he's still wearing a suit.
And they meet on the 50-yard line,
but it made him look like stars.
That's why it was like a heist movie.
It was incredibly,
done and it made them look and you could see them in a fucking movie and they didn't look out
of place i mean loo turn to put fucking adam page or one of those fucking weasels over there in a
real legitimate fucking movie and they'd be shaking like dog shit and peach seeds but and they
weren't having a fight it was a conversation of summit meeting between these two guys that
are going to have to coexist to work together on the team and the big show and what's going
to happen and blah, blah, blah.
And Roman came into it, let's get one thing straight.
This is my football field.
It means it's my stadium.
It means it's my city.
And then Cody came back with, no, on the other side of this stadium's Techwood Drive.
And down the road is center stage.
And over there's what used to be the Omni.
and multiple generations of my family
have bled for this city and in this city
and this is my home.
Multiple generations?
Well, too.
The Dustin's older.
Dustin's in the middle there.
You might as well call him his own generation.
So you're not considering like Dusty's kids are the next generation,
Dusty's generation one, their generation two.
It's just every 20 years you're actually talking?
It sounded better.
so anyway
when he said that
the one thing I liked the best about that
was when he said that to Roman
all of a sudden and this has got to be a
Heyman this was a Heyman
Roman kind of breaks and smirks
and says you know what that impressed me
okay let's get down to business
and Roman had established that he could
acknowledge
that Cody got a pretty good line on him
so let's talk about what we're going to have to fucking do
and
you know, Roman's thing is
the fight in the bloodline is dangerous
and he doesn't have anything to lose but Cody does
and Cody, you know,
it told him he warned him
he'd be a chief without a tribe
and you gave him the
the whole
you know fucking
reality check about what was going on
so the Roman says
what do you want?
What do you want? I want
to know that I want your word that you're going to have my back is what Cody says.
And so Roman says, I give you my word.
I'll have your back, but when it's done, I'm taking back what's mine, which is obviously
the belt.
And he starts to walk off and Cody fucking steps in and says, it's not yours to take.
And then Roman Raines' last line is,
you're in my way in life.
And it was a very, it was very,
was that Scorsese-ish or was that, you know,
Hitchcockian?
I don't think either of those directors,
those fantastic directors,
I think this was really good, but it was not either of their styles.
You know, this is what Heyman wants.
Heyman wants an Emmy.
And if there was anyone in that company,
I would have faith in doing cinema.
stuff, it's Heyman.
And this was really good and both guys are really good.
I'm just not a fan of these kind of segments that been reality on my wrestling shows.
But they were good in it and it was well done.
And it looked great.
I mean, it looked.
It looked great.
They really should make a heist movie.
I'd watch that too.
You know, it brings to mind then how realistic.
Because I always hate that.
the fake shot cinematic fights, right?
But then how realistic can an interview get?
How many multiple camera setups can we have?
It looked seamless.
We didn't have the idea that they were doing multiple takes.
They got invisible cameras.
You've seen the invisible camera people, haven't you?
They had multiple invisible cameras.
Sina has been for 25 years now going to all these cities,
around the country impregnating these women
and that's where they're getting their troop of
invisible cameramen.
He just can't see them.
Anyway, great stuff by these
people.
And Kevin Owens was in the back, scoffing and
walking off. He is not happy.
Or grumpy or dopey or doc or any of the other ones.
They beat
Da Vinci again, right?
Yeah.
No, didn't it?
Yeah, they did.
Cruz rolled him up again and then Da Vinci dropped him on his head.
I'm looking at my notes.
Anyway, should we talk about Steen?
We better get used to calling him that.
I'm calling it.
He's going to be one of the ones that it takes Tony's retirement fund, I mean, contracts.
Well, that's an interesting case to look at because if that's true,
and if WWE thinks that, he's still on TV.
You know, Daniel Garcia, who we just talked about,
nothing's done, and he's just off TV.
Kevin Steen, Kevin Owens, is still there.
I mean, RICOchet, they used RICOchet right up until his contract was up.
Yeah, they can get, they've got all this time invested in Owens,
and they know that he's not going to make any difference.
That's not even in AEW.
That's not a knock on.
the talent and nobody is going to make a difference in AEW.
They're just going to go there and take more of Tony's money.
The ratings will stay mostly the same and everything else will stay mostly the same.
But they're going to use this guy that they're paying and they've got an investment in.
And if he goes, then most of the audience watching him right now won't know that he didn't
just quit wrestling.
Right or wrong?
Right.
So why not use him?
and he did an entrance and they like him, they were chanted for him, and he's like, thanks, guys.
But he can't believe he just starts talking about Cody Teeman with Roman, after all that this has happened before.
Well, right as he starts to talk about it, boom, here comes the bloodline, the Tongas and Jacob.
And Tama talked his way to the ring.
And last week, Roman and Cody embarrassed the tribal chief, so they're going to get it in bad blood,
but you're going to get yours tonight.
And again, I say he's going to be perfect for AEW because Steen, instead of, well, you may be three of you,
but I'll get the first one or two that comes through the ropes or whatever.
It's like, well, we know why this is going to end up, so just jump up here so I can punch you in a face.
he's being a smart ass about the whole thing being phony
as usual
he's got to be cute
and then he
nails the Tongas
he has to
everybody's in a situation where
they can just beat both the Tongas up
but they got to fight even or sell for Jacob
but then
the Tongas will come from behind
and stop the guy and then here
comes Champa and Gargano, and they make a comeback on the Tongas,
but Owens just ducks Jacob and he jumps over the top on his own missing Owens,
and security comes in and they sign a six-man tag for later on.
But that, again, you know, they're getting something out of Owens,
but it's not like he's being featured like we can't live without him.
Right?
Yeah.
Do we know when his contract is up?
Is it the beginning of the year?
Is it the end of this year?
We were hearing somewhat imminently and that some deals we're trying to be made is all I've.
Because you've got to wonder if he's going out, is he going out as a heel?
Is he going out doing a big job to Cody?
Because they're teasing the term.
I keep teasing the shit with that.
I mean, we'll talk about it later.
Yeah, but that would take the answer.
edge off turning Orton later on on
Cody, which is bigger money.
I don't know.
Yeah.
They had a very awkward
Texas
tornado match where Naomi and
Bailey wrestled Tiffany in the fridge.
The loser would leave Smackdown,
but the winner, whoever got the pinfall
would get a title
match. So
at one point, you had
Bailey and Naomi double team
Tiffany, but then when Bailey
covered Tiffany, Naomi had to make
save for the title
shot, blah, blah, blah.
And I'll tell you, Jacks was
bumping.
Jacks took a double backdrop.
Did you see any of this match?
No, I was so worn out from the
movie earlier at the football game.
Well, I'll tell you,
it was a little awkward
in spots, but Jacks, the refrigerator,
she took a big double backdrop,
she's working hard.
And, you know,
I'll say this,
Nia Jax has the kind of face a man likes.
It's too bad a man didn't get it.
But they had a,
of what would be called a match here in some circles.
And then both of the baby faces pinned Jacks at the same time.
So now the baby faces are going to have to fight
to see who gets the title match.
but in the middle of that tomfoolery,
guess how many television sellouts they've had in 2024?
Oh, I saw this recently.
35.
39.
Guess how many events.
Oh, quit.
Guess how many events sellouts they've had.
How many event sellouts?
In other words, whether it was televised or not.
Oh, so that was just televised?
Yeah, the 39 is the TV sellouts, but they've also sold out...
52.
House show events, 58.
39 TVs and 58 total, apparently, but so far in the year, and they ain't running that
often anymore.
And they just announced they're going to be cutting back, that their intention is to
keep cutting back every year on how many shows they run.
Did you see that?
Well, yes, and, I mean, for the main roster at this point,
you know, why the fuck not?
Do you really, even if you're making hundreds of thousands of dollars at an arena event,
now that's not even worth risking one of these guys getting hurt.
Isn't that crazy?
It's insane.
Yeah.
But for the developmental program for training, for, you know, any kind of experience for young guys,
I'm hoping they rethink that.
and put some other kind of thing in place where there's some,
there's got to be some level,
even in NXT,
where you have to surpass that before you can actually just say,
no, you're not going to go work the rec center in Punta Gorda
or whatever the fuck to get experience.
Anyway, it's not my job to worry about them.
Did you watch the six-man tag,
which was the big
the main event
the main event
blah blah blah that was supposed to be
Owens and Champa
and same face against the bloodline
I did
you know
that was one of the things
about earlier that they kind of established
that maybe not want to see this match too much
was Gargano and Champa being involved
well they weren't there long
no
because you see Owens's entrance
and then on the screen
the bloodline in the back
have beat up Champa and Gargano
and somebody's got a muffler
stinging out of his ass or whatever
and then they come out and they start beating up
Kevin Owens and then the street profits hit
and fight the bloodline
and we go to the break
and then when we come back we have a bell
for a six-man tag team match anyway
so there's a
somebody ought to do
a tabulation on
one week of just both big companies television shows,
how many fights in the back are there?
And involvement in how many people?
Because it's just, why not just have done this to begin with
with these guys instead of do that angle?
Or do you think, did somebody get fired in between Seg 2 and Seg 7?
I don't know if it was that.
I don't think it was that.
Well, you never know what people might hear on hidden microphones anymore.
Anyway,
um,
is a six-man tag.
Ford is a great leaper.
You can tell
K.O. is getting lazy at the
small stuff. I don't think his heart's in it.
Tonga Loa stands around on the floor a lot.
I mentioned again,
Jacob Fatu needs to
rely, in my notes here is where I mentioned
to myself. Less on the
head butts. He did like
five of them.
in a row at one point.
And I don't care if you're Samoan or not,
if you're really hitting somebody that hard,
you've got to register your own.
But, you know,
they went through a big,
you know,
back and forth finish,
and the people were liking it.
And everybody, you know,
hit all their shit and did dives and things,
and then the referee rang the bell for the double disqualification.
But fat,
again, which is basically what I watched for
and then kind of looked down when anybody else was in,
continues to look incredible
with that minor headbut criticism I made,
and they're using him right.
And then finally Cody comes out
with a chair when Jacob's beating up everybody
and he nails the Tongas and does a cutter on Fatu.
and then as Cody pops up,
Orton picks up the chair
and is behind Cody
but Cody turns and offers his hand out
and Owens drops the chair and shakes his hand.
But the tease is always there.
Why I ought to? Should I, should I?
But I don't think he will.
I think that way when Orton does,
they'll have lulled us into a false sense of security.
I could be wrong, but I never have been.
It's probably one of those ricochet things,
where ricochet got laid out by Brom Breaker and was left open.
Like, you can return from the ambulance taking you away if you resign.
Otherwise, they'll never see you again.
And with Owens, it's, yeah, you can get something big like that.
Otherwise, we're just going to keep teasing it.
And then, you know, Orton or someone will squash him before he leaves.
But you know what you just mentioned?
Well, you can return from the ambulance
that carried you out.
But in this case,
the way Tony Kahn did it,
he switched places.
You can return from sending
our top guy out in a fucking ambulance.
Well, that was SmackDown.
It certainly was.
And you know what?
Sometimes,
the Smackdown audience,
I heard they're down another,
what, couple hundred thousand
because the switch to USA from network television,
right?
after the debut episode.
I think this past Fridays that we just talked about,
they were down a little bit more.
In the 1.4 range.
They're probably going to have given up about 500,000 people
with the switch from cable to broadcast.
Is that what you're hearing?
That's what I'm hearing.
And, you know, I don't think it was reasonable
to expect the 1.7 they got last week for the first episode
would be week two.
I don't know if they expected this kind of drop.
It doesn't sound bad to me if they'd have gone to 900,000.
That would have been...
This is kind of where I thought they would end up in this range.
And, you know, we'll see as things heat up for certain times of the year, how that increases.
Also, with less wrestling on the USA Network next year, will that do anything to affect this number?
And with Raw going to Netflix, it's going to be a whole new kind of number we're looking at.
Yeah, but, you know, right now, again, if they did 1.7...
last week and one point, high 1.4 or whatever, almost 1.5 this week, the second week,
if they drop again to 1.3 or 1.2 the next week, then I might start worrying a bit if it doesn't
immediately snap back because I think the people now have figured out it's moved.
Because they did a lot of publicity in that hot first show.
They got most of the audience that they had on network.
And Fox actually let them say it on the air.
Yeah. So now it just depends on how many, you know, fewer people overall that would watch it don't have USA or whatever anymore. But they're going to have plenty of options of places to watch the WWE, Netflix, CW and USA and the fillings in your teeth. Everything will pick these programs up. But the main thing is, Brian, if you don't know where to watch them,
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All right, well, let's hit a few high points of raw, for heaven's sake.
You want to get high?
Well, no, Talley.
Ontario, California has a lot of nerve,
taking Ontario Canada's name and being abbreviated,
almost exactly the same way.
You know, a lot of people,
any old days before they had GPS,
a lot of people would have gone to Canada
to make this shot. You realize that,
don't you?
When they say void in Ontario, I'm always confused.
Well, and
if this had been the Vince McMahon
era, they were still said,
we're in Los Angeles, or
we're in Hollywood, or we're in Beverly
Hills or something, they wouldn't have said Ontario.
But I guess they got big
arenas out there everywhere now.
this thing
did they tell us that the show was going to become two hours for a while
when is that going to happen
yeah we did hear that i think it's coming up soon for the remainder of their run on
USA at least soon I don't know when
soon you know and like I would have watched the second match
and we'll get to it in a second
but it's a three hour fucking show people I've got a life I
have things that I have to do
such as breathing and bathing
every once in a while
and it just gets, it's so long, it's so long.
But,
what a start to the fucking thing.
You're making me
a Liv Morgan fan. I still don't
ever want to see her wrestle, but that nails
on a chalkboard, chalk
chalkboard. That's what I'm trying to say,
the chalkboard. Yeah, that thing. Nails on the
chalkboard voice, the
just the
this whole thing is so
childish but yet fascinating
because Ria Ripley's involved
and Liv and Dominic are these two
fucking annoying
heel fucking idiots
that
you know
yeah
it shouldn't be any good but it is
is that what I'm trying to say
I don't know why it shouldn't be any good
it's been great
from the moment they put her
with Dominic Mysterio. It's been working, and
I think they're really good at this.
Well, when she speaks, my ears bleed,
as I've mentioned about lovely live,
but these two come out,
live and Dom, and they cut, and by the way, they come in
in the lowrider and they walk through the back,
and Bronson Reed and Brown Strongman
or fight past them.
More on that in a moment from last week and this week.
But they did, and then they, a bunch of people
run after them.
And then Dominic and Liv walk straight into the arena and do the entrance.
Again, the camera work and the timing and the shot blocking.
It's insane these days.
And all Liv has to do is come out there and whine like that and say that from Ria,
she took the women's title, she took Judgment Day,
and she took the most gorgeous man in the world, Dominic Mysterio.
and then Ria's music plays
and out she comes and she's super over
and she looks like a fucking superstar
and she said don't worry
Liv I'm not going to hit you but I just want to tell you
and Mommy Chance start
and Dominic starts to step up
and she tells him to get out of the fucking way
and live to cuts the promo
I'm going to beat you because I'm smarter than you are
because I've been beating your knee up
and you're going to have to say that you're not cleared
and blah blah blah and Maria says well I came out here to tell you
my knee is good and I am cleared
and by the way Dominic you're going to be there
when I take my women's title back
high above the ring and a shark cage
a shark cage
I don't know with her with her accent
it sounded like a shark cage.
And he was going to be shit in his pants.
But then old Wade Barrett, I believe, cleared it up.
A shark cage.
Why can't they just say hanging over the ring in a small cage?
It might be easier for to say.
Because sharks hadn't come up.
At least on AEW one time it was Shark Week, right?
I think so, yeah, because they've done that a few times, Shark Week.
So people weren't thinking of sharks.
but nevertheless.
The people like that
and then
and Enria Ripley said
and by the way,
what I said before,
I take it back
and she head butts live
and knocks her out.
That looked good.
Yes, it did.
And Liv sold it good.
Yes, she did.
Everything here was good.
Yes, it was.
You are correct, sir.
Yes, sir.
See, now I'm Ed McMahon.
It's all downhill from here.
I don't know where else to do.
It's all downhill from here,
But no, but it was a great promo.
Again, Ria Ripley is not the biggest female star in the business.
She's one of the biggest stars in the business, period.
And Dominic still has kept his heat, and they're mad at live
because she's the shrewish little mean girl that is, you know, messing with Ria.
So anyway, we started off good.
You know, it's interesting to stop for a second and just talk about
something we talked about years ago.
When Dominic Mysterio was first being used as a wrestler, as a smiling baby face with his dad,
when Ray Mysterio's contract was coming up, and he had to decide WWE or AEW, and part of the
discussion was, you know, where's Dominic going to go with his dad?
And we looked at Dominic against, not against, but compared him to a hook in terms of where they
were at the same time at one time, and Sammy Gavar maybe, too.
look at the job Dominic Mysterio has done in WWE
to become a heel
he's kind of like Michael Hayes he may not be
you know buddy Rogers in the ring
but he knows how to be a heel
yes and he works like he looks
and he presents himself like he looks
what we've said before these guys
and on the other side they've concocted
in their heads
how they want to come off but they don't look like it
and he looks like a chicken shit dip shit that gets heat like this.
And that's why he's a bigger star than anybody they've got.
It's just, it's understanding what you can.
If he had gone to AEDW.
What you can do on purpose to make work for you.
Yeah, go ahead.
If he had gone to AEW, if Ray Mysterio had signed with AEW and Dominic had gone there with
him, just think of how different the career trajectory would have been.
if he had been on dynamite every week
instead of having his character develop
over the last few years.
His career trajectory on dynamite
would have looked like Wall Street
in October of 29.
But anyway...
What do you think of them booking the match?
Just one last thing on this.
Lib versus Ria with Dominic
in a shark cage above the ring.
Well, I like that because he can be up there
making scared faces
and trying to yell down advice.
to live when she needs it that she can't hear
because people are screaming because he's trying to talk.
They won't, I mean, they'll still have a match,
but they won't really need to.
It's fucking, it's gold there,
and he's a sitting duck if Ria wants to fuck with him.
What's he going to throw down, right?
You have to throw something down if you're in a cage above the ring.
Well, you don't always.
You don't always.
It depends on how long they want to keep this going.
But, you know, potentially,
what kind of foreign objects does live use?
I mean, I'm not trying to ask in a filthy type of way.
I don't think she's established any specific.
Like, she doesn't have a sledgehammer or nothing.
Well, in that case, then, you know, maybe he can slip down some type of marital age he keeps in her purse.
I don't know.
And then you just go that direction anyway.
Yeah, well, anyway, I'm moving along here now, though, because the next match was a point I want to make real quick.
it was Sammy Zane
versus Ludwig Kaiser
and I would have liked
to have watched this but it still
we're 15 minutes into a three hour show
and I don't know what the fuck's guy
I'm trying to hit the high points
and get the
major news right
but both those guys are good
and Kaiser has really been fantastic
lately and they had a good match
and the fans loved it
and Sammy hit the kick and got the big pop one, two, three.
And so that that was, and then Gunther comes out and again teases,
giving Sammy a world title shot right there in River City or whatever,
and then, you know, the way he twisted around, but no.
But they did something, what was it last week or two weeks ago,
that we skipped over.
I think that was either when I had poisoned myself
or it was my birthday or something happened
or all of the above
or all of the above
but they did a segment
with Sammy and Gunther and Brett
Hart when they were in Calgary
and that ties into this because they've been doing
the deal where Sammy wants a world title match
and Gunther keeps teasing him that he's
finally going to give it to everything but no
but new
and they worked that into a deal
where in Calgary they brought Brett out
and then Gunther came out and
confronted him and
one of the greatest lines ever
and Gunther has that dried delivery
he's a fucking German
stand-up comic if he wants to be
Austrian
whatever
same part of the world
but he said he put bread over
and how great he was and he did this
and he did that he said
Brett Hart, I think you're great.
You're only second only to my all-time favorite wrestler, Bill Goldberg.
You know what?
The real tribute was that he didn't just say Goldberg.
He said Bill Goldberg.
Yeah, Bill Goldberg, yes.
But the point is, when Sammy came out and then, you know, was defending Brett in terms of, you know, verbally, he hadn't attacked Brett or anything, but he's defending him verbally.
and then Sammy and Gunther got in a fight.
Here's the point I'm making
between what they did here
and what they're doing with Sammy and Gunther
and etc.
Sammy Zane
for quite a few years there
when they were indie rific darlings
old El Generico was the sidekick
of Kevin Steen who was the fat loud mouth
that always had something to say.
And that's where they were
in the pecking order in the minds of
the indie wrestling fans.
I think Sammy Zane is more important to the
WWE than Kevin Owens is right now.
I think longer term he's got more upside.
The people like him in a more genuine way
rather than just cheering because he
cannonballs his fat ass into people's faces.
And he can, at this point,
I think his promos are better, he's more motivated.
Who would tell me,
in 2012.
Which one is a better promo,
Kevin Steen or El Generico?
It's obviously Sammy Zane.
Sammy Zane's the best every man in wrestling.
Yes.
He pulls it off better than anyone else.
And he tries to me, watching as a viewer,
he tries harder to do the best he can
with material he's given than
Steen does two to one.
So I think he's more valuable.
to the company, then
Steen is, and if they're going to give him
him too many pronouns, pal, if we're going to give Steen
millions of dollars to go play with his former friends or his
current friends, former co-workers,
then I don't think that the WWE is going to
suffer that big of a loss with all the other names they get on the
roster, but Sammy fills a spot. It would be hard to fill
is what I'm saying.
I agree.
Plus, if Sammy ever turned heel,
if done right, it could be massive still.
Oh, good heavens.
If Owens turns, he's just turned again.
Owens doesn't turn as much as he molds.
Anyway, so then,
by the time that Gunther had turned down,
giving Sammy a match,
we were 40 minutes into the show.
We got Carlito and Dragon Lee.
Dragon Lee won in a few minutes
they must have been running late
was something that I don't know if it was fucked up or not
I couldn't tell
Did you see Ms. and Cross had a heartfelt conversation
in a room filled with reproductions
of old vintage wrestling posters
that had been put on a color X-Rox machine
and tape to the wall with duct tape?
What the fuck was that about?
I don't know because I think the previous segment
drove me off to take a break
because I didn't see that and I didn't see this.
Well, they actually,
It was old Atlanta ringsider program covers that I remember seeing that looked like they were X-Roxed and stuck up with tape.
And then an old Carolina's poster from the 70s that was also stuck up with tape in Ms's room.
He's noted for being a student of the classics.
Anyway, at 9 o'clock, we were ready to see the Ms. versus Bronson Reed.
and of course
earlier in the night
they had done
the deal where when Liz
or Liz
Liv and Dominic
were coming
in the arena
Bronson Reed
and Brown Strongman
had fought right past him
and threw a knock over
a bunch of shit
and continued on
because they got in a big fight
last week on the program
and
just went back and forth
just hitting each other
with shit
and big moves and throwing security away and doing the whole nine yards.
And, Ada, you seemed a little gleeful about it when I talked to you earlier about the
backstage and through the arena fighting of the two behemus.
These two giant guys and giant in different ways, so they look different out there,
fighting, starting with the brawl in the parking lot and the splash of the car.
And then last week, they went through a fake wall and it looked a lot better than the AEW fake
walls. Well, yes.
And just chaos, just people
running around after them and
there's something about it that I
like and I'm actually looking forward to the match
next week.
Well, yeah, the
They've got a good job of building up this match.
The wall last week
it was dry wall,
but at least they went to the effort of putting some
studs into the goddamn thing above
where they crashed through. There was still
no stud for a six foot
fucking period in a goddamn wall
but they had studs above it you could actually
see and it was a wall
at a place that
needed to have a wall right
so they went the extra mile
but that's what they did last week
and then they did the homage to Kevin
Sullivan and Blackjack Mulligan
who fought out the back door of the
Eddie Graham sports stadium in Orlando
that one week and the next week during the first
match fought in the front door wearing the same shit
and now there's
basically
they're telling the story
they're still going to fight because
Ms. gets in the ring and Bronson Reed
tries to make his entrance
and old Brown attacks him in the
Owlway.
And then they just go back and forth
and they start
running, it's
so preposterous
that I actually kind of got entertained
also. They start
running the security guys in and what did they
have 12 or 14 security guys
out there? And one
of them will beat up or choke slam
two or three and the other one will top rope
or whatever two or three
and then they'll fight for a second
then they'll turn around and both together
they'll beat up another dozen security guards
at one point
brown strong man
drop kicked Bronson Reed in the
upper thigh did you see that flying
drop kick I did
he's a big man
I liked last weeks
I think better that this one was a little
preposterous because now it's becoming
a contest between bless their little
peepick and hearts these security guys.
Their local indie wrestlers, obviously.
But it's becoming a bump-taking contest
as to who can take the most
even over-exaggerated bump for one of the monsters
and the most action comes out of
the security guard, Ned Flanders from Springfield,
who you never heard of before,
it'll never see again.
are you really want to see them have another fucking match?
I want to say, I think the fans are going to be all amped up too for that match.
Let's see.
They need to be.
As a matter of fact, that's what they need to do.
At the front door, when the fans are entering the arena,
they need to pass out a baggie full of fucking meth to each one of them.
To get them amped up to see that match.
They've had running security guards.
They've had parking lot rolls and destroyed roofs of cars.
They've had walls that got destroyed.
They had turnduckles,
off because of just a mass force of being.
The mass force of being, the centrifugal fucking mass and girth of them.
Contributing to the gravitational factor of the centrifugal X.
And it's also the look of it.
Like, I don't know.
It brawn, not brawn.
There's a lot of bronze and broncens.
And it's a lot of everyone with the same name all of a sudden.
Bronson Reed, if he was like six, five.
I probably wouldn't be as interested.
But because he is a big guy, but he looks different than Braun Stromen was a classic,
I'm going to just inject this, whatever it is, kind of big guy.
I kind of like the way it looks.
You're saying it's got to be a bowling ball against a fucking meathead.
I'm saying we've seen a lot of meathead versus meathead.
It's a nice change of pace.
It's a nice change of pace.
That's a meathead versus a fat ass is what you're saying.
Meathead versus meatball.
All righty then, nevertheless.
Are you looking forward to it now?
No, no, I'm not.
Come on, come on, you are.
Because it's, it's just, it's a, they're just doing stunts at this point.
And it, but it, trying to have a match in the ring.
What's a monster last monster standing match.
So I'm sure they'll go through the arena again.
Yeah, er, monster.
Uh, does Bronn?
They did the mash.
They did the monster match.
I was going to say Bronn, but that's Bronbroker.
Bronson Reed, that's his name.
Uh-huh.
He has to go over, right?
I'd love him to.
I really would.
I mean, the whole thing is about teasing Rollins's return.
Rollins just got pushed on the field at the NFL game over the weekend, so he's obviously
getting close to return, I would think.
I thought he fell accidentally.
Well, nevertheless, uh-oh.
You hear that thunder?
We better pick up the pace here.
I might not be on the air much longer.
Mother Nature is moving in.
All right.
McIntyre.
Do you hear that rain right now?
I did not hear it.
I thought that was a dramatic pause.
I didn't realize it was a dramatic pause with rain.
No, I said Drew McIntyre, and then suddenly it was like rain on a tin roof suddenly.
Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain, telling me just what a fool I did.
No one needs this.
Drew McIntyre did a promo, and they actually had some restraint on this three-hour program.
he came out with a game face on, he recounted what punk said last week about how I'm prepared
for this to be the end of seeing him punk and, you know, he's going to make Drew McIntyre bleed
to whole nine yards, and Drew said that he wasn't happy about going into the hell
in a cell either.
That everybody in punk's family had begged him not to do it.
Well, everybody in his family had begged him not to do it.
but it doesn't matter what anybody thinks
it's going to happen
and Drew says
I promise I'm going to make you bleed
a lot
now they're setting expectations here
I'm going to make you suffer
pain I'm going to break you
permanently
into hell in a cell
it wasn't a long
drawn out thing it wasn't
Hollywood scripted where he had to tell
some analogy
or some old
chestnut be tied into a learning experience or whatever,
he came out like Punk did.
And he was serious and he cut a fucking promo.
He said, I'm going to fuck this guy up.
And he left.
I like that.
Yes.
I liked it too.
You're waiting for the segment dealing with Punk and McIntyre.
This is the only thing that really was.
Well, because what else do they need to do at this point?
The time, as Lucy says,
to Ricky Ricardo, the time has come.
You know, the matches at hand, they can't go back and forth.
It's made already.
If anything they do physically at this point is detrimental rather than beneficial.
So, Punk got his statement.
Now Drew's had his statement.
Everybody's still interested, and they want to see what's going to happen.
And so it's also refreshing not to have, even how.
However good Drew has been another one of these 20-minute interview segments in this long show.
You know, Brian, this show was so long.
About two-thirds of the way through, I realized I needed a good close shave again.
I had grown a beard in the first part of this program.
Has that ever happened to you?
Mid-program? No. No.
Wolfman. I don't know how that happened to you.
You've never just realized when you leaned your...
hand over on your chin that you'd grown a beard waiting for this program to be over and you had to
make your face slick again?
Mid show?
Mid show!
I didn't desire a slick face in the middle of the show, no.
Oh, well, you never know where that face is going to go pretty soon, folks.
I'll tell you what, if you suddenly need a slick face to stick somewhere that doesn't want to
have anything to do with stubble and old prickly whiskers on your coal-mining looking face,
then you better hope that you're on a first-name basis with our friend Harry.
Because if you don't know Harry, well, then you won't be wild about Harry like we are,
because we're just wild about Harry.
Harry makes or causes to be made the best old razors at the cheapest prices that you're ever going to have.
It will give you the closest shave from your sideburns all the way down your cheeks,
into your knuckle area, and back around to the other side.
again plus up above your lips and underneath your nose and that little dented place in the
middle all of that place on you from now on is going to belong to harry you're going to call harry your daddy
oh daddy harry shave me baby you know what it could just be a relationship where you get your
great razors from harry's well yes and none of this is required and well you're going to have to
show the proper amount of respect don't look harry in the eye here's a
another thing, folks, a lot of these
trial sets where the people say
well, we'll give you a trial
kit and you tried our razor and our
blades and our shaving gel
and et cetera, they cost
up to $13.
Well, that's the same thing that
Harry's trial kit costs unless you
know somebody who knows Harry
and I know Harry.
And if you know Harry like I know Harry,
you'll know if you go to harries.com
slash JCE
you're going to
get a $13 trial set for just $3.
That won't even buy you one of these incredible German-engineered five-blade cartridges
in a regular old grocery store or possibly a dry goods place or someone who's a jack of all
trades and sells used merchandise that's falling off a truck.
You're not going to get that kind of deal anywhere except at harries.com.
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so you don't slice your fingertips for just $3 at harries.com slash jCE, and then you can sign up for
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You don't have to go outside in the cold, cruel world, or the horrible driving rainstorm.
that has enveloped my home now.
Instead, they'll bring them right to your door,
and as a matter of fact, if you tip the mailman extra,
he'll probably go ahead and stick them in your pocket for you.
While you're looking out to make sure that nobody knows you got them,
because they'll try to steal them from you.
People try to shoplift these hairy five-blade German-engineered cartridges
right out of people's pockets.
It's in the news everywhere.
This has nothing to do with a...
They ate this guy's dog the other day.
they ate this guy's dog and then they picked his pockets for his German engineer and Harry's
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one way or another, but you can only get your Harry's by going to harries.com slash JCE. Get this
trial set for $3 and then make your own decision. You're a grown adult. We're not telling you
what to do or not do with the hair on your own face. But somebody ought to tell you,
want to do about it.
Because it's obviously not something you're keeping track of on your own.
Disgusting, disgusting looking fucking people have to clean yourselves up.
With Harry's.
Yeah.
And then once you take that hair, you can save it.
When you dry it out, you can make little crafts things with it.
Remember that little kid's toy where you took the magnetic pencil and you put the little
magnetic shavings and made him like a must.
a mustache and a beard and comedy sideburns.
I used to try to give him crotch hair, but there was no magnet there in that area.
Then we showed his face.
He didn't have any pubic hair.
Well, I was trying to give him some down there, but they didn't have a magnet down there.
There was no down there.
It was just the face, wasn't it?
Shoulders maybe?
Well, yeah, well, I added it down there on with cardboard.
You're the deluxe edition of the magnetic naked man, whatever you're talking about.
See, with a marker and some cardboard.
word, you can make his whole magnetic body.
Luckily, you don't have to think about any of this with Harry's one last time, Jim.
What's that promo code for the best raisers you can get?
Harries.com slash J-C-E.
Well, let's, uh...
Yeah, well, let's...
Raw is rolling on.
They had a girls tag team match.
Can I say something?
Yes.
Because you asked a few weeks ago.
This Joe Tessatori, if I am now pronouncing...
He's growing on me.
He's growing on me, although at times he sounds downright somber.
When they come back to the commercial sometimes, it sounds like he's at a funeral.
See, I mentioned he's growing on me with his excitement level, but he is still, he's, he's going,
he's running the gamut of emotions.
He's running the gamut of emotions from the thrill of victory to the agony of defeat.
He seems to have come into this with an eye toward being a performative.
type of announcing fellow.
So, but he's growing on me.
Yo, and here's nothing, here's what's not growing on me.
They have Pierce book,
Brown Strongman and Bronson Reed next week
in the last monster standing match.
And then you hear people fighting and grunting.
And they run over with the camera to the,
and there's Butch beating up Seamus with a cricket bat.
What did I just say?
See?
Everybody's
No, everybody's beating up
everybody in the back to the point where
when it is supposed to mean something,
why does it mean anything?
It's like, oh, there's the popcorn guys.
One's got his fucking axe handle
shoved up another guy's ass.
Here's a question.
Do you think they're going somewhere with this?
The idea that Nick Aldus has a nice and tidy smackdown
and on Raw, this just brawls breaking out all over the place
and Pierce has no control.
Well, he might not have a,
nice and tidy Smackdown.
We need somebody to do an analysis.
Is it more dangerous to be in the locker room in Raw or on Smackdown?
Definitely Raw.
Well, there's three hours, though.
How many locker room fights per hour is the average?
That's a more fair way to look at it.
And we can only be looking at it from the period of time they were both general managers.
Yes, because otherwise it wouldn't be fair, because the other general managers weren't as strict
possibly as these people.
And then they had a girls tag team match.
And then they played the tape of Cody and Roman
filming their heist movie in Atlanta.
And then they had the tag team match
between the New Day and the Creed's.
I will just say this.
Have you seen now what I'm talking about with the Creed's
that they do not,
they may be excellent athletes.
They may be wonderful, competitive amateur wrestlers.
They may be dedicated young men who both use their left and right turn indicator
and say yes, sir, and no, sir, to the coaches.
But I cannot see any way in the world that they have been lifelong
or even moderately long time wrestling fans
because of the fact that if they're that great athletes,
They don't know how this shit is supposed to look.
And it's awkward, and sometimes these things just don't work.
We won't give up on them just yet.
But between those nerdy, hatchet-headed fucking blank faces they've got,
and the fact that everything they do in a pro wrestling ring looks awkward
in terms of how a pro wrestler would do it, what are you seeing?
Are you seeing anything?
Everybody else, oh, the creeds are great.
I haven't been terribly impressed.
At least they have nice outfits now, very patriotic, red, white, and blue.
Ivy Nile interests me because you can't look at her and figure out her age.
What?
You look at her, you're like, she could be 40.
She could be 30.
She could be 35.
You can't figure it out.
Well, just Google it.
I don't want to.
I like the mystery.
That's the point.
No, right now.
She's not 40.
I bet you she's not 30.
Really?
I bet you,
I bet you,
I bet you she's 26 years old.
32.
What?
32 from Knoxville.
Well, you can't believe anything on Google, can you?
All right,
anyway,
the main event time had come for Raw,
as it does for us all.
And I didn't think
I was going to like this match,
but I didn't think it was going to depress me,
at the end.
They'd been milking it all night.
Jay Uso versus Bronbreaker for the Intercontinental Title
and they did the Jay Uso entrance through the arena.
Okay, I've got a lot of least favorites in AEW,
but I'm now officially declaring
Jay Uso is my least favorite top guy gimmick in wrestling.
It's all over, but I hate it.
I hate yeat.
I hate that fucking Ringling Brothers' outfit he's wearing with yeat on his arms
and flower petals on his legs and fluorescent blue all over.
I hate his work, which has gone to hell,
because of his hot doggery, which is not only over the top,
but also it seems to me
to be hard to work with
because of the timing of his hot dog
or he is just a step behind the beat
or maybe a musician would know better,
a step off, whatever.
I don't like any of this.
Am I over exaggerating any of these cases?
Well, you're consistent.
You have been pretty open about your
not liking any of the Jay Uso stuff for quite a while.
and obviously if there was any match that was going to trigger you,
it would be this match,
notwithstanding it.
I mean, it was a good match.
I could see why the finish would trigger you.
Well, but I'm talking about,
am I overstating the case on Jay Uso?
Yes, I'm admitting he's over.
The people like it.
They like the entrance.
They like the yeat.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
But his work, bleh, his look,
the outfit, bled, the...
And then I'm watching this.
It looked to me like Braun Breaker was the veteran heel trying to lead a green baby face through the heat.
The way that Braun sells makes Jay's kind of weak shit look better.
And when Braun was in control with the heat and methodically picking him apart, it was slow, but then they'd have a burst.
But he's got a great heel attitude and heel aggression.
and he's got the athletic moves that he does.
And, you know,
Uso is not selling like Riggie Morton,
he's selling,
but he's not setting,
you know,
a standard of like,
wow,
look how good that fucking guy is
for his short time in a business.
They've been doing it as 15 years now, right?
So,
Braun is the,
he's a better-looking athlete,
he's a better worker,
he's got the better personality
and yes I know one's a heel
one's a baby face I'm saying in terms of
anything I'm looking for at a money drawing
athlete in a wrestling business
brawn has more of it than Uso
except Uso's been put in the bloodline
spot which is what propelled him to be over on his own
and
when he when Uso makes a
come back, it's with rotten punches
that the big stud like Braun
has to sell and that bogus
yeat shit.
Where you got to stand there
interminably while he does his
dipsy doodling and hits you again.
And boy, now all the guys today
know how it felt when they had to stand there for
Dusty's flip-flop and fly.
But
I mean, that was the thing.
Uso barely hit a Samoan drop at one
point where he didn't really have control of Braun and they just went down
and then Braun outshined him with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, breakinsteiner off the top.
And then they, they traded big two counts. The people were into it.
But finally, Brawn had speared him on the floor at one point. He went to do it again and ran
into a super kick and then Uso speared him through the barricade and then threw him in the
ring and speared him there and then splashed him off the top one, two, three.
So now Jay Uso is the new Intercontinental title or champion, and Braun Breaker only had
it like two months.
And yes, I know he's got a long way to go and they're, I'm sure they're prepared for this
moment with what to do with him next, but everybody popped and loved the finish.
I did not share the enthusiasm.
Big pop, massive pop.
Huge pop.
I don't...
Jay Uso is possibly the biggest tribute
to modern WWB booking
that even he is that over.
Because if he hadn't been in this bloodline thing,
just the work or the look or the promos,
it's like fucking our truth kind of
underneath comedy filler in the back pre-taped.
shit. Well, you know, there's always a guy and they come in different forms that get over with the people
and it doesn't match the work. You know, from the Ultimate Warrior to maybe to some of us who were
first exposed to Jimmy Valiant when he was the Boogie Wogie Man, you know, not early Boogie
Wogie Man, but late Boogie Wogie Man. You know, there are certain guys you can't explain it.
They have a connection. Obviously, he's peeking right now with it.
I wish I didn't have to peek
The idea of beating Braun Breaker right now
was one of the big surprising things I guess
That was, you know
I don't know why that they needed to beat
Braun at that point
And I wish if they were given Jay another big win
And just don't beat fucking Bronn
But and also I'm not looking forward to
Think about this
The Intercond title's now gone from
Goonther
ended up with Braun Breaker
at least you could count on
wow matches with Gunther
and a wow performance
with really good matches from Braun
now you get the intercontinental title
is Jay Uso
and Sammy had it too
well but I'm you know
Sammy yes he was a great worker also
but I'm talking about
new young guy you got
Gunther can really go
you got Braun it can really go
You got Jius.
We're not going to be looking forward to those matches.
Well, we'll see how many of those matches they are.
There are, not they are.
Well, hello, my phone is going up.
These goddamn politicians keep spamming me.
These goddamn politicians.
How'd they get your number?
I don't know.
Did you go around passing around your business card again,
telling them they ought to advertise on the Arcadian Vanguard network?
We'll see.
We could just move on with the show now.
What was next on SmackDown?
Well, that wasn't Smackdown.
That was raw and that was it.
That was all she wrote, as Mama Cornett used to say.
That was the end of the show.
Do you think with Jay Uso, there's a touch of that?
He deserves it because he's been here a very long time and never held a singles title,
so we got to do this?
Boy, you know, if it was an OVW and I'd say, yeah,
I'd guys been a really good student and maybe we ought to reward him or whatever,
but no, at this level, at this fucking level of money
and television and viewership
and what, fuck him and is what he deserves.
Jeez, you really do hate him, though.
Well, no, for anybody, I wouldn't put it at that level,
I wouldn't put a belt on anybody just because, oh, they've been around
and they haven't had it, they deserve it.
They mean, good guys, no, fuck that.
Jesus Christ, no, you don't do that.
At the local cable access level, that's a wonderful,
thing to do, but not at that level.
Well, that level was WWRWA.
Well, would you like me to tell you something on the level?
Please.
I'm out of things to talk about.
Should we close it up so we can go watch some Vince McMahon documentary
and come back and talk more about this heinous individual
that we're going to have to watch six hours of deep, dark mysteries on?
Real quick, before we go, survey, quick survey between us.
Yes.
Do you think this is going to take them the task, or do you think this is going to be too light on them?
From everything that I am, the feeling I'm getting from everything that I'm hearing, people say,
I don't think this is going to be very easy on old Vince.
And we've heard people say it's a burial, maybe that was to, you know, get expectations up or, you know, stir up the pot.
but now Vince is already
coming out well
the editing and oh
I think they're going to be stiff with Uncle Vince
You know we're focusing on the sexual
It's not sexual harassment
sexual trafficking and all these issues with Vince
The component of that
But even just the business stuff
I give it's a real documentary
looking at things the good and the bed
do you talk about the shit he did in the 80s
Are they going to talk about how he fucked over
Crockett promotions
Well see I think that that's
stuff that he would actually, in his mind, be proud of.
And maybe he'll, you know, phrase it, it's a do-or-die-business, or if I hadn't done it to them, they'd have done it to me, or, you know, whatever.
But he would like that stuff known about him that he was a ruthless businessman.
If you get a billion dollars unless you inherit it or you get it all at one time, you have to be a fucking asshole.
because who that would have $100 million would goddamn put up with the grief it would take to get to the billion.
Only somebody that wanted to be ruthless and win everything.
So I think Vince would consider that a compliment.
I'm not ruthless and I'd like a billion dollars, but I also want to develop different things like hologram Marx Brothers and stuff.
Well, yeah, also you say you'd like a billion dollars, but you ain't got it yet.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
You might decide that before you get there that it ain't worth the goddamn aggravation.
I'm hoping I may trip in front of Tony Kahn's motorcade and then I get sued.
The point I'm making to you, Brian, last, if you would let me, the point I'm making to you
is that I believe this will be awful stiff on old Vince to coin some type of a phrase.
I don't think they're going to treat him nice at all.
Do you think there'll be ominous music?
Oh, there's got to be ominous music.
There's ominous music and everything.
Do you think we'll hear about other accusers?
Other than Janelle Grant?
By what, by name that word none has existed before?
By name or?
It has some type of revelation.
I don't think.
Any details that aren't publicly available already about any of his accusations
or any of the accusations against them.
Well, or the things that he said about other people.
there may be some things that we don't know about some cases that we know generics about,
this NDA or that NDA,
but I don't think they're going to out anybody's identity that is not already known.
But we may be able to figure out a couple of people that might either not be as loyal to Vince
or might not be as against Vince as we thought they were based on what they might say in this thing.
that might be fun to figure out
but overall
I think it's going to be six hours
of this is one of the
weirder fucking guys that ever walked
the planet
and we just got to figure out which parts
they focus on
well we will focus on it on the drive-thru
yes we will and that's your program
and since you're sick there's no
reason for me to keep you any longer
four hours is enough
so thank you very much for stopping by
and everybody else thank you very much
much for listening, and we'll do more of this, but even better next time, we promise. Until then,
thank you, fuck you. Bye-bye, everybody.
