Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 551: Another Exciting Episode

Episode Date: September 29, 2024

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews WWE Smackdown & Raw! Plus Jim talks about Mr. McMahon, Daniel Garcia, King Kong Bundy, car phones, brothel history and much more!  Follow Jim and Brian on... Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Connest. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag deep art. Born at Experience, where today we're going to talk about hookers and horror comics and Vince Rousseau's tombstone. And we might get to some wrestling before it's over with as well. And joining me to do all this and more. Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr.
Starting point is 00:01:23 co-host to you, he's the William Gaines of podcasting, the great Brian last everybody. Hello, hi Jim, a pleasure to be here once again, and what a high compliment that was. Thank you very much. I do appreciate that. One of the books I always have in my office is the William Gaines biography. Scott Cornish lent it to me years ago, and then I purchased my own copy. Oh, I thought you were going to say Scott Cornish lit it too. You never gave me.
Starting point is 00:01:47 No, no, I gave it back to him and I liked it so much. I bought a copy so that I always have one on hand and I can go back to it and check it out. Why didn't you buy scots? You just read his for free and then you gave somebody else some money. He did not want to lose it because he loved it too. Well, then he shouldn't have given it to a fucking guy like you. I gave it back to him. What is your problem?
Starting point is 00:02:07 I gave it back to him. After he kept calling. I gave it back to him when the time was right. There's been a great show. And by the way, I'm under the weather. and he's hicking on me and starting crap. By the way, that's an old Abdulah the butcher quote. They'd say something to you about the finish or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He'd say, when the time is right. But no, you have, I could have said you're the cryptkeeper today because you informed me right before we go on the air that once again, the burden of entertainment may fall on my broad but beleaguered shoulders as you are indeed feeling puny. I would just, I'd just poison myself last week. I was a death's doornail. And I nipped up and did the show and it was,
Starting point is 00:02:54 it was as only I could do a show. And you're, you got some, what is the problem with you? What is your genre of illness here? First of all, I woke up feeling crummy and I'm recording because that's what kind of guy I am. Can you imagine how everybody else felt when you woke up? They weren't feeling too fucking great. That's not nice.
Starting point is 00:03:15 The point is I woke up and I came here. and I'm doing what I got to do. You woke up and you said, oh, I need a few days. Oh, I need a new pillow. Wait a minute, you woke up and you came here. You walked from one part of the house to another part of the house. It's not like you had to take a travel day. Don't diminish my commute.
Starting point is 00:03:34 There's all sorts of things in the way. The point is I woke up feeling crappy. You have the most mute commute I've ever seen. So, so far you woke up and you were feeling crummy. You were feeling down in the mouth. You were feeling just kind of blah out of sorts, had to sour belches. Well, not really that. I have kind of a sore throat and my nose is stuffed up and we put the heat on because
Starting point is 00:03:56 it got cold and that did not help. I dried you out, didn't it? You breathing all that hot and dry air? Yeah, it's really bad. So that's why on your show I'm asking you to carry the ball and carry the water, bring it home, bring it on home, Jim. Can I just give me a jug of piss while you're at it? all carry that over as well.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Jake Roberts may have one of those. Or the Rock. Actually, the Rock may have one. Well, no, he prefers bottles more, doesn't he? Yeah, that's true. Not a jug. All right. Anyway, we're going to have a rollicking show today amongst many things. And also
Starting point is 00:04:35 I got Hotchkiss Featherbottom. Came to the rescue again. My printer, which I believe I reported the people a week or so ago, was down because of the the sudden power outage we had here, the still is inexplicable, it just, bam, it just went back on or off and back on, and everything was fine except
Starting point is 00:04:55 the printer went into some type of somnambulistic coma, and Hotchkis Featherbottom came over here, and the technical genius that he is, he was able to figure out exactly what happened and put that back online. So we have viewer mail again, today. And we're going to hear from some of the cult
Starting point is 00:05:18 of coronas. What did Hotchkiss do? Exactly explain the intricate technique that he applied to fix this problem? Well, he went through a variety of screens and clicking upon things that caused more boxes to come up upon
Starting point is 00:05:33 the screen of the thing, and then he reached down and he pulled his white cable out and stuck it back in again. And he said, there it's loading. So he's He's a genius. He can evaluate these things and he just like wave his hand.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I hope you don't lose this guy to the Geek Squad or something. No, no, no. They have certain standards or guidelines with their hiring that the background check. Well, nevertheless, he tried and he gave it a good old,
Starting point is 00:06:07 and he looked like a completely different person when he walked in there with that fake mustache. I can't believe they put his pictures up over the door. So if Freddie Blassie was still alive, do you think it's a natural right there for a geek squad to use him to advertise the brand? Oh, God, he could be chewing through the cords to malfunction the equipment and then they come in and figure you, pants all that geeks. Bundy, Bundy, you big fat piece of shit. Bundy did a commercial for what kind of early computer thing that was happening back then.
Starting point is 00:06:45 know more about these things than I do. Yeah, I forget the name of the computer because it's not one that anyone talks about today, but that was the thing he left for in what, 87, 88, 88. Yes, it was a big national advertising campaign. And apparently it didn't do very well for the computer people. If you can't even remember what the brand was. You can't remember either for the record. You were much older than I was at the time. You were one of his contemporaries. That's why I didn't fucking pay any attention to that goddamn flash to pay. fucking computer shit. I knew it wouldn't last.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And see here, we don't even remember who it was. We remember Bundy. Ah, head start. Head start computer. God, damn. It sounds like the slow lane of computers, doesn't it? If you're really just unable to figure anything else out, here, try ours? You know, hold on, there are commercials.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I've never actually seen or heard any of the commercials. I've seen the print ed. Curious what this is. do these things still exist on youtube apparently yeah well no i'm not saying i'm saying i'm not saying to the spots i'm saying do this computer company or this brand or this line of who shot john that they were producing does it still exist is it still marketed
Starting point is 00:08:03 this to me did the head starts perspicuous panoply of programs really bring about a qualitative transmutation of my intellectual faculties or was the amplification only a matter of degree? Jeun-no-se-pa. One thing is certain, however, the power, performance, and sophistication of the Head Start computer can make a genius out of you, too. Head Start by Vendex, built to be compatible with you.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And that was Bundy. That was Bundy. And can you hear, because of the New Jersey accent, and can you hear a little bit of Dennis Corleuzo maybe reading the same thing, the same kind of way at his younger days? You know, I can. Hold on. Here's another one. This one's from 1989. Not bad, Bundy. You really made that head start computer look easy to handle.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Look easy. It was easy, Dick. You know, the fully IBM-compatible head-start computer made a genius out of me in only 23 minutes. Well, now headstock computers can make a genius out of every New Mark and Lewis customer. Hey, Bundy, did you get one? As a matter of fact, Dick, they're all mine. What do you got to say now? Just one thing. So again, in terms of the usage of King Kong Bundy and the video ads, that is separated from the print ads, is this the best way to utilize King Kong Bundy?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Probably not, but it's amazing that, because Bundy was very underrated verbally, and he did a tremendous job better than some local television personalities I've seen doing commercials, of delivering the fucking lines and saying all those words, and especially the one where they had him be the, you know, it was the dichotomy of look at this giant, massive kingpin of a man, while at the same time he's spouting off all him $14 words,
Starting point is 00:09:57 as Sputnik Monroe might say. So he did a very good job verbally. Harley is over here behind my chair applauding him, as a matter of if you hear that. Actually, she's scratching a place for her to lay down in the carpet. He's doing a better job verbally than we are. Well, all right. Well, anyway, you're the one playing these old advertisements. You still haven't answered my question. Do these things, does this company, what happened to these people?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Could you turn on one of their computers right now and would it work? You have no answer for that. I am looking up head-start computer. Head-start computer. That's what we want to know. We're not shamelessly promoting these products of 40 years ago. We're trying to find out what happened to a once thriving organization here. What up to their employees? Do they all just kick them out in the street? Mom and dad just suddenly without a breadwinner in the family?
Starting point is 00:10:54 And they're going penniless. The kids are not eating. There's probably some domestic abuse going on in the household because of the stress. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Is this what Bundy wrought with his commercials? The head start, the head start, that's Kevin Sullivan's read. The Head Start Explorer was an inexpensive all-in-one home computer that came with a built-in graphical user interface. Graphical?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Graphical, that's what it says here. G-U-I. The G-U-I was built directly into the machine's ROM. Some things to know. The GUI was not based on any... A-pet-T-ROM got soared in cold weather. The GUI was not based on any existing windowing system. The desktop was static.
Starting point is 00:11:37 The icons were hard-coded. The icons cannot be moved, altered, or removed. Shortcuts the software could not be added. sounded, sounds awful. The only writable onboard storage was the clock and the control panel. I don't even know. This sounds like Abbott and Costello to me to begin with. I don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 00:11:55 that meant. It doesn't sound like it's still in business and you can certainly see why. Although it made a genius out of King Kong Bundy in 23 minutes, I'd love to see the false advertising lawsuit over that. Well, shit, I'll tell you, I was going to have Hotchkiss invest in these people. If they were wrestling-friendly, perhaps we could have worked some kind of a deal. I could have been the new Bundy.
Starting point is 00:12:19 All right, never let's get in line here. Snap, snap here, attention, because this is my program. I'm the captain of this ship. I'm steering this vessel. No more of these side tangents out into, why do you always want to know these things about these various obscure things that then you force us to sit around while you're looking up? I'm here to talk about the vessel.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Let's talk about... Nobody asked you. I'm here to talk about Vesselmania. I've got breaking news here. As a matter of fact, it's just come up across the breaking news desk. Did you hear about the female photographer escorted out of the Virginia Elementary School in Chesapeake, Virginia? Did you hear about this? This just recently happened.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I have no idea what you're talking about. No. Apparently, this woman told television outlet WTKR that her son was sitting to have his school picture taken when the photographer, and there's a picture of this woman, and she looks fairly young and somewhat average, said to him, can I steal your identity and can I eat your soul? Oh. What did he reply? Well, she asked him, can I steal your identity? His response was just no. Her next question was, can I eat your soul?
Starting point is 00:13:54 How old was this kid? It's elementary school. I'm trying to, I don't think they could list the age of this child, but he was crying when he was telling mommy of this, right? and then her next question was, well, then what can I eat? And he told me, Mommy, I didn't know what to say. So I said the first thing was, you can have noodles. You can eat noodles.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And guess what the photographer said? What? Demons don't eat noodles. Oh, I didn't know that. There's some news. So apparently they let some... Demon? Self-professed demon.
Starting point is 00:14:35 That shit crazy. The, the, uh, Hold on there she was actually involved or involved employed by Shutterfly that's a company I guess that potentially sends people out
Starting point is 00:14:50 to do these things They're a pretty big company yeah Yeah she ain't got that job anymore But An internal investigation is underway They're sending demons to take photos of your children see as I've told you Brian you got to be careful who you associate with these days
Starting point is 00:15:13 was that the only kid that she did this to did she single out just as one kid or did she go after other children I did well there was nobody else was quoted or commented upon demons don't eat noodles demons well that that is kind of fairly sensible I mean what have you ever seen a demon he asked said can I have some ramen how do you think she would react if all of a sudden people start sending her lots of noodles. I think she's been off her noodle for quite some time. All right, anyway. Is her name a Waka Khan?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Let me love you, Raka Khan. Let me sue you. Raka Khan. Raka Khan. Anyway, let's get to the listenership here. And at first, I wanted to send a special message. I can't say shout out. I'm an adult goddamn...
Starting point is 00:16:05 Man, I can't say. I want to send a shout out, but I want to send a special message to one of my oldest friends. And even that was unwieldily worded because it's not like she's 94 years old. It's the kind of person where I've known this person longer than I've known most people in my life type of oldest friend. You see what I'm saying there? Yeah. Are you, did I express that adequately now? You explain to fine you?
Starting point is 00:16:36 All right. Well, anyway, Melody Oglesby from White Plains, Kentucky, who not all, I have known since I was a teenager, but was a great friend of my mom's. And I won't tell a lady's age, but she's in my age bracket. But she used to come to the matches when I was a photographer, and my mom was at the souvenir stand. And in Evansville or Madisonville, Kentucky, when we run out there. And my mom just thought the world of her. And they were friends. But when I was on the road, Melody, offtimes, might come up and spend a Saturday just visiting with my mom. And we have stayed in touch on occasions or holidays or whatever. And I just wanted to say hello to Melody because she sent me a card for my birthday and said that the doctor had gone.
Starting point is 00:17:34 giving her some disheartening news here over the past couple months. So we just wanted to tell her that we're thinking about her. And the cult of Corvette has pretty much healed every major illness, haven't they? Known to man over the last few years with all of their generosity. So and also the power of positive thinking. So anyway, Melody, we love you. And we've got another couple of e-mails. See, and she doesn't send me emails.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It's written down on paper with a stamp on it, the way things are supposed to be. Anyway, and also a few listeners that we have heard from, though, as I said, by email, James from, how do you say it now? God damn it, now they're going to cross me up. Edinburgh, Scotland, is it Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Edinburgh, it's B-U-R-G-H, but how is this pronounced? If you pronounce it fast enough, no one will be able to tell which version you said.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Well, James from Edinburgh, Scotland, wrote us a nice email. He's had some hard times going on, but our show serves as a comfort to him. They're so polite over there. Well, some of them are, in the way that they phrase, it deserves as a comfort to me. But he claims,
Starting point is 00:19:04 Brian, and we make him laugh. That's one thing. But he claims that you deserve more recognition. How much more can you be recognized? Do we have to do the thing where whenever I interest you? When will that start? Whenever I introduce you, whenever I introduce you, then you've got to stand up and say, acknowledge me now.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I think I'm acknowledged enough. I think I get enough attention. I'm just fine with the attention I get. Well, he didn't say attention. He says recognition. Now, is that the same thing? Well, that's different than just recognize. That's recognition.
Starting point is 00:19:47 You look at that person. You say, they are the best at what they do. They are great at what they do. A sexy, sexy man. A good at everything he touches, just filled with great ideas and wonderful execution. women love him, men want to be his friend and hang out with him, he has to kick people out of his house because no one wants to leave, these kind of things.
Starting point is 00:20:11 But he's talking about you, not me. No, I thank you for humbly mentioning that you'd feel that you're happy with the attention you get and you don't need any more recognition. You better recognize. James, I recognize James. James says I'd love to meet you both, but... Oh, that's not how. happening.
Starting point is 00:20:35 But I wish you the best. Peace and love. Anyway, I got another email here from Alex. He's Alex from Minnesota. Took me a second to find that. And he's emailed us before and we have, we've read it and talked about him. But his grandmother, Linda, passed away in May.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And he had a nice quote. I thought we'd read this. She was not just a grandparent, but a best friend who looked out for me, always knew how to put a smile on my face and make me laugh all while keeping a smile on her face, while on chemo treatments and parenting two special needs children. She was and always will be a strong woman who persevered through challenges in life, and I love her and miss her greatly. But then that goes for Alex's parents, Paul and Randy, too,
Starting point is 00:21:30 and his friend Andrew from England. Do we know Andrew from England? Did Andrew die too? Is this just, I lost track of what happened. No, no, no. He was grandmother, then all of a sudden it was a bunch of other people. Was there an accident? No, that is.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Was it a boat? It was a bus. The fucking guardrail hadn't been inspected by the state. I don't know how long. No, his, Alex's parents, Paul and Randy and friend Andrew from England. have been getting him through the tough times lately along with us and our programming. Apparently, now that may have come to an end. I'm glad they're still here.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Otherwise, at times would really be tough. But sounds like you have a good support system and an awful podcast to listen to. Well, Alex, we're sorry for a number of things. And Dan from Alberta, Canada, unfortunately, his mother passed away a couple weeks ago. and he said, you know, obviously it's been a very tough week for me and thank you guys for the laughs and helping me keep somewhat of a routine while he's planning the funeral arrangements. But he says, I thought you might be interested in hearing about this.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I don't know whether you deserve it or not now. He says, when Brian announced the passing of his father, he mentioned the charity locks of love. And I'm proud to say I'm about four inches away from being able to donate enough hair for locks of love to make a wig. What do you think about that? That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's a wonderful thing. That's a wonderful thing. Four inches away. I was once four inches away from getting to love Goldilocks. Goldilocks. That's a whole completely different. Who's Goldiland?
Starting point is 00:23:21 And the three bears. You've never heard of gold. I thought you were talking about an actual person, not the actual story. I thought you were talking about a person and you were making some kind of weird sexual innuendo that I should understand and get the reference to you.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Well, I was making a weird sexual innuendo that you should have understood but I didn't know that there was any debate as to who Goldilocks was, the fucking bitch that was bothering the three bears breaking in their homes, stealing their food and doing who knows what in their bed.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I don't know. You could have said, oh, she was an outlaw girl that worked for, you know, Wild West wrestling. I don't know. But Dan, thank you, Dan. Yeah. And thank you, Alex, and thank you James. We, and melody.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Well, and also, and thank you for the melody. John from Minnesota sends us an email. Now, this is on something that we have talked about here recently on the, picking up the early not cell phone calls, but cordless home phone calls. on the radio and et cetera, right? You remember we had a discussion about that. Yeah, and there's a couple of clips on YouTube about party lines, I think.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Jim Cornett on party, on party lines. No, we did. That was Tessa Blanchard. Oh, yeah. No, she's a fine young lady, and I understand that she is, has regular bowel movements. She likes to party all the time. You know, I used to sing that to Harley some day. She likes to party all the time.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Party all the time. All right, John, though, John from up there in Minnesota. Mr. Cordette, I'd ask that you please withhold my name. Should you read this on this? Well, I'm not going to give you your last name. So how many fucking. Please don't say where I am and who I am. There's a lot of Johns in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:25:39 A lot of Olies, a lot of Larses, and a lot of Johns. But anyway, I was listening to the experience today and heard you discussing cordless phones in the FM band. You did find out that was possible, but there was some other fun that some frequency geeks, certainly not me, would have, as phones progress, You could buy police scanners back in the day.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I remember that you see in the 80s TV shows, all the reporters had the police scanners and in their car and everything. You could buy police scanners back of the day. If the frequency went high enough, you could get on the cordless phone band and hear calls. Cell phones up until the early 2000s were on the analog band. Scanners blocked out the frequencies, between 868,000 or 0.000 and 898.000
Starting point is 00:26:39 megahertz, MHZ, because that was the cell band. So scanners blocked those out. You didn't get on those. But there was a national retailer that sold their own line of scanners. There were also websites that were not based in the U.S. so the FCC could do nothing about it. that would tell you how to modify those scanners so you could restore the cell band. Sometimes it was as easy as pushing buttons.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Other scanners required solder and pliers to modify the motherboards. I certainly did not ever attempt anything like this. You also had to have a scanner that was made before July of 1994, and it had to scan up to 900 megahertz, I guess. So he goes on to say, a guy who was certainly not me could buy the scanners online, modify them, and resell them for four times what we paid. Yes, you mostly heard go get bread and milk from the store when you listen, but maybe once a month you would hear something that would perk your ears up. Nowadays, it's no fun. Digital phones and no one has landlines anymore. It was a great way for a poor college kid, certainly not me, to make some money.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And now he goes out, I'll leave out the last line where he says now with the very large holdings that he owns in a certain genre of business that he should probably not be spreading these things about someone, certainly not him, breaking a federal communications commission regulations. But that's John. A lot of them out there. there's one on every block from Minnesota. It's a big state. That certainly can't prove anything by anybody. A lot of John's out there and, of course, there's going to be a lot more because now with
Starting point is 00:28:43 Puff Daddy being arrested, a lot of these Johns aren't going to get work. Thank you. You did say you're feeling sick. Are you possibly feverish or is that low blood pressure or cause you to come up with that one? My bad joke was better than this Radio Shack segment. What the hell is this? I think I'm on line at Radio Shack That's very interesting
Starting point is 00:29:06 That you could do those things back And that's why that my mama Cormett would not have trusted a lot of this modern communication She said well this doesn't seem to be private Who's the first person you knew to had a car Yeah I guess that's what you said car phone A phone in the car was back then Yes it's car phone
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's where you put it was in your car the first one that I ever saw was somewhere the Midnight Express and I rented a goddamn car when we were on the road with Crockett and or TBS and
Starting point is 00:29:44 no you know what I tell a lie Flair had one I think in that I don't know it was close but who who's going to have a phone in their fucking car in 1980 fucking five that I'm going to be hanging out with. Wrestling promoter. Did Watts
Starting point is 00:30:02 have one? When you ran over his car. No, I didn't run over, I ran past his car. I didn't get to look inside. I wasn't I was not of status where I could open a goddamn door on a fucking Rolls-Royce and just be sitting my sweaty ass down on the goddamn custom
Starting point is 00:30:23 up a holstery. Was Jim Ross really spread eagles on top of the Rolls-Royce? he was he was well see now the thing is it depends on what you say and what side top is because he was spread eagled because i remember his stance was he had a wide stance with his feet apart but he was waving his hands in the air in a manner of like he was trying to fucking stop an airplane on a fucking tarmac and he's like get away from the car and he's standing in front of it but he wasn't spread eagled on on top of it
Starting point is 00:30:58 because hence then he wouldn't have been able to get up on top of the thing so he was spread eagleed in front of it that was the part of the story I always found the funniest the idea he was trying to save the car by being on top of it well see before
Starting point is 00:31:13 I got there he may have tried to climb it but it was a pointed fucking kind of a pointy hood as I recall and had an ornament nevertheless I got a couple of mentions also that my birthday was not too long ago. Remember? See, I told you
Starting point is 00:31:29 we're catching up with the viewers. The cult of Cornett out there come first today. This fucking rassling. We can do that later on. I got a bunch of birthday cards from everybody, cards and letters as they say.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And I wanted to recognize a few other people. I mentioned a few things I got early a couple weeks ago, but boo from Al-Tuna sent me a Wendy's gift card. Say, how many people you got sending you Wendy's gift cards from Al-Tuna. I've never gotten or received a Wendy's gift card. Well, if you modify your behavior, your chances would go up.
Starting point is 00:32:07 They got to bring back the grilled chicken sandwich. That was the best thing on their menu and they got rid of it. Well, that's to make you want it when it comes back. Remember the McRib? See, it's all about the marketing. Joni Aries, the Queen of Cakes, as usual, but also sent me another fine album from her father's collection, album and LP album type for you kids out there. Grandpa Jones's greatest hits, which contains not only eight miles from Louisville, but I'm my own grandpa. Have you ever heard that song?
Starting point is 00:32:48 I don't think so. You ought to look up fucking I'm my own grandpa by Grandpa Jones while I finish these thank yous and you'll just laugh hysterically. Did Charlie Daniels mention him? No, just Wet Willie, Elvin Bishop, ZZ Top, and Dickie Betts. Some idiots out there haven't even heard of Wet Willie. That's right. This episode may feel like a Wet Willie at this point.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Yes, Mark Cole sent me a copy of Bobby Sherman Comics No. 1. Bobby Sherman? The Charlton publication. When we talk about the Teen Idols? Yeah. Well, he sent me a copy of Bobby Sherman Comics number one. How many issues that they do? Bobby Sherman had a little bit of a run, what, from like
Starting point is 00:33:36 late 60s into the early 70s, and he gave up his career? Well, I don't know. It's not my week to watch him, but I don't know what happened to his career, but I know that I've got his comic book number one. I don't know if there was even number two, but it was just, it was a curiosity he thought he would send along. He was like a teen idol. Did he fight crime?
Starting point is 00:33:58 What's going on in the comic book? No, it's him on the cover with his blue jeans on. in his shirt and his hands in his pockets and his hair is tousled. And you know, actually, we accused Eric Bischoff of looking like John Davidson all those years, but he looked like John Davidson with a hint of Bobby Sherman. That was the thing that always got me for years. People would say, Eric Bischoff looks like a game show host. No, he looked like one specific game show host, John Davidson. That's it. That was the only game show host, whoever looked like that. But think about it. If you went to central
Starting point is 00:34:34 casting, as they say in the film industry, and you said, give me a game show host, who would come out? It would be a 75-year-old man like Bob fucking Barker. It would it be a guy that looked like fucking John Davidson, aka Eric Bischoff with dark hair in his prime? That's the classic, that's the stereotype. See, that no wonder Bischoff is disgruntled. He was stereotyped all those years.
Starting point is 00:35:00 What do you think of Gene Rayburn? I used to, when I was a kid, I thought his name was Gene Rugburn. I always wondered why he had that, the fucking, the long thing with the, the long mic with the little dot on top of it. It looked like some type of doctor's probing apparatus that. Yeah, certain guys had their mic style, the microphone they like. Gene Rayburn had that. Bob Barker had a very unique microphone that no one else uses. See, if Saturday Night Live had been around like five years earlier,
Starting point is 00:35:33 they would have had a regular segment with Dan Aykroyd being Gene Rayburn turning around with a three-foot long, fucking razor-sharp rapier, the microphone that was stabbing people and putting their eyes out. Anyway, you're elongating my thank yous. This was just going to be brief until you got involved. Because the next thing I'm very proud of, and I'm going to put on my desk, Brian from Reno, Nevada, has access to a 3D printer.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Have you seen now that? I never even knew what a fucking 3D printer. How the fuck does that work? They're making a goddamn 3D Xerox copy like the old 3D comics. I got to put the glasses on.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I didn't know what the fuck it was. The kids folks, the kids out there, are making things out of plastic. I guess it's plastic, Brian, right? It's a lightweight material. You know, I'm not exactly sure I would think it is. I have some stuff that's been 3D printed here.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It's plastic-ish. But yet you can make any shape or any design or, you know, any little thing at your heart desires, I guess, somehow. And then you can paint it different colors. It's like making your own model kit instead of putting it together for people who are of adult age and who like me had no idea what fuck this was. Anyway, guess what he sent me? This is a white plastic urinal, just like you'd see on the wall in the bathroom and in the men's room,
Starting point is 00:37:12 a urinal with a plumbing connection on top and the flusher thing and everything that he's painted silver and is very wonderful detailed work. It looks just like a flusher. and on the back of the inside of the urinal in raised lettering painted in a bold black lettering here lies lies in italics Vince Schittstein Russo
Starting point is 00:37:42 rot in pieces bro it is Vince Russo's tombstone as a and it even has hear that that's that's that's the hanger apparatus where I can hang it right here above my desk on the wall. And it's even got a little place where a little bitty person could piss right into the urinal in the bottom and it would fill up. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's a wonderful tribute to a toileting grate. So I'm trying to... A toileting grate. A toileting grate. Anyway. And also, hold on, I've got to reach this. Oh, God damn it. My arms aren't long enough.
Starting point is 00:38:34 You're going to love this, Brian. The book from Dan Rhino in St. Louis, I've mentioned him before. He of the Emo's Pizza Sauce and etc. sent me to pass. Guess what the title of this book that he sent me by Ken Zimmerman Jr. is? I know that name. I should know what the book is. Tell me what the book is.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Gotch versus Hackensmith. That's right. Yeah, I do have that book. You have this book? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This, I mean, you know, with all due respect, and I have not even had time to begin reading. Is that the book with the worst type? Well, I was about to say, I just went to the post, I've picked it up, and I want to thank Dan, and I'm not disparaging the book in any way.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I know that probably double day or Simon and Schuster is probably already full. filled up with books on Gotts v. Hackens Schmidt, but this is a self-published book in the most apparent of ways. But I'm sure it's a very informative book that I thought I was going to surprise you on. You already got it. Yeah, disappointed. It's hard to read a book when it looks like shit. I mean, I don't even know if the guy didn't get research or not.
Starting point is 00:39:50 See, that reflects on Dan now. He doesn't reflect on Dan at all. He did a nice stuff. thing. Now, Ken Zimmerman, he's got something to answer to. Well, I think what he's done is he's basically typed up a book report on what that they had in the newspapers at the time on this situation, which I think is a nice, handy little, little tome here to have all of that stuff in one little manuscript here. But it's hardcover. Did you get a hard cover? No, I got a soft cover, I think. See, I got a hardcover.
Starting point is 00:40:27 That makes it worse. I've never seen a hardcover where, and one of the people, it's, I've never seen a hardcover self-published book like this, and one of the two people that it's about, his name is misspelled on the back cover of the book. George has no E. But otherwise, but thank you, Dan. And here's where I was going with this, John from Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:40:57 sent me an entire box, a stack of horror comic reprints. Hold on here one second. I'm trying to reach over and get this stuff. Listen to this. Boom. And here's another, and here's a stack of, boom. Vault of Horror number one. Shock suspense stories.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Number one magazine-sized reprint books. Obviously, they're not, he didn't send me. you know, original EC comics rarities in the mail but like a Haunt of Fear reprint and then several other comic-sized
Starting point is 00:41:39 reprints, Tales from the Crypt, the same title, a also a, hold on here, where am I looking at it? Where is I going to find it here? The God damn it. The Night of the Living Dead, 25th anniversary tribute of magazine.
Starting point is 00:41:59 So that would be 1993 and a cool oversized magazine size Stephen King's creep show Illustrated magazine, etc. Several monsters attack titles
Starting point is 00:42:17 and a nightmare on Elm Street. So anyway, can you imagine the generosity and the fact that now that he has sucked up to that extent, he's got a package coming from me. Because even I couldn't, I'm out of breath trying to lift those things.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Even I couldn't take all that and not send something back. So he's getting two-for-one coupon at the local PT strip club. Hey, you know what I just got? Fantagraphics just put out a collection of Jack Davis stories from EC Comics called Foul Play, which has that famous story where they use a man's head as a baseball. in the game, but some fine artwork here for some really grotesque things. Foul play from Fantagallos.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Well, there you go. And speaking of fine artwork and some really grotesque things, that leads me right into talking about Cornett's collectibles at Jimcornett.com. And the incredible holiday sale that is fast approaching us that begins Saturday, October 5th at noon eastern at Jimcoronet.com with the final Jim Cornett action figure variant the man in white we've been talking about it my
Starting point is 00:43:31 favorite suit for when I would lose weight but also it matches all the tag team sets it matches any of the other figures that you would like to have me manage and impart my wisdom to you can customize it to any because we couldn't keep Meganese forever so now it's yours paint it at whatever color you want me to be and as the thank you for supporting all the different variants and deviants over the years. This one, if you buy any Midnight Express or Heavenly Bodies tag team set, you can get at half price, only 2495, and autograph.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Plus, the thank you, fuck you buy T-shirts are available again after the past couple of years off duty for the Christmas holidays, and we'll decide whether we keep them after that. and all the rest of our fine, unfrivolous merchandise. It's got a lot of weight and heft and gravity to it, folks, is available at Jimpornad.com, and you can be a part of. And pictures now at the website on the homepage, front page. What do they call it, Brian, the homepage?
Starting point is 00:44:50 Page six. Hachkis wanted to do, what was it, the page? two girl in England he wanted to have various pictures of me topless on page two but I said just stick to the front page but anyway you can
Starting point is 00:45:05 see all that right now and that's a public service announcement for Cornett's collectibles all right I've actually got a letter here Brian and this is not an email
Starting point is 00:45:22 I got this in a along with a package for my birthday. I told you before we went on the air, I was going to read something to you you at first weren't going to believe because when I first got this I read like about
Starting point is 00:45:38 to the second sentence, I said, oh, okay, bullshit. And then I got a little bit further and realized it also, besides the fact that of this letter, he had sent pages of documentation of here's the YouTube links, and him being interviewed about these
Starting point is 00:45:56 various topics or even with the pictureed with these people or the documentation right? So as preposterous as all this shit sounds that I'm about to say to you it's actually legitimate
Starting point is 00:46:11 so I don't want anybody think that this is a made-up comedy bit somehow in the program but Brian would you like to hear the email Richard Hunter from well fuck I forgot
Starting point is 00:46:27 his home is not on here I assume he's from out in Nevada as you'll you'll get the when we read the email or the letter but Richard Hunter would you like to hear what Richard has to say of course this is going so well
Starting point is 00:46:43 well you know you don't need to be snide just because you're goddamn feeling puny today as a loyal listener see you're already insulting the listeners. I want you to know that I'm always amused when you and Brian reference an infamous moment in prostitution history that I have a direct connection to.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Well, already it's starting in a way I did not expect. Well, sometimes we talk about things that's going on in the news, Brian, right? I didn't realize we were referencing infamous moments in prostitution history, no. Well, he goes on to say, I was the manager of the... Love Ranch in Nevada when Lamar Odom Odeed there and I was the one who called 911 and gave him CPR until paramedics arrived. This is verifiable by Googling my name and his together, and I did, and it is. As I subsequently had my face plastered on every media outlet from Good Morning America to Nancy Grace for about two weeks. I even had someone portray me in a crime scene reenactment
Starting point is 00:47:56 as the concerned horror house proprietor who found a six foot hold on here as the I'm out of breath as the concerned horror house proprietor who found a six foot 10 inch NBA player at desk door with two hysterical prostitutes in bed with him now just stopping down here for a second on the next episode of Hookers with a heart
Starting point is 00:48:27 they may not have had a heart they may just have had a goddamn brain so I guess now it's been a while right maybe for some of the kids out there who had not attained legal age of talking about this stuff or hearing about this stuff that
Starting point is 00:48:51 Lamar Odom was the basketball player that OD'd after spending like three days and untold tens of thousands of dollars in his whorehouse in Nevada and he took so many drugs to help him continue to do it that he had like, didn't his heart just fucking blow out and his eyes rolled back and he just went in a fucking coma, that kind of shit? I think it's been a while. I don't even remember all the detail. It's been a while since that's happened.
Starting point is 00:49:21 to you. And yes, and he was married and he was in the hospital like for potentially weeks as I recall that this was some process where he was like, maybe they'd be good to me
Starting point is 00:49:36 because he was fucked up and will he ever walk or function or piss anywhere but in his pants again and not only is a big rich NBA player but he's married to one of the Kardashians, which annoying Kardashian was it that he was married to?
Starting point is 00:49:54 The one that's clearly not in any way related to Robert Kardashian. That one. Did their relationship last the test of time? Only time will tell if they'll last the test of time. Did we tell it? I believe they have both moved on. Probably. Well, he might have been in a wheelchair moving on.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So anyway, here Richard is involved in that. And then Richard continues. Back to Richard. Or if we can call him now Dick. A few weeks back when you and Brian referenced Liberace's former lover, Scott Thorson, you remember that? You were talking about that the other day. Yeah, we mentioned him and then he died.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yes. And then we mentioned him again because he died. Well, he's... Richard says, I was again taken back to my time in the employee of that same house of ill-repe. repute. In 2013, when the Michael Douglas Matt Damon movie behind the candelabra, which we've talked about in the past, was released telling the story of Liberace and Thorson, I discovered that the latter was simultaneously being held in a Reno jail on charges of identity fraud. I convinced the brothel's owner, Dennis Hoff, have you seen this guy on
Starting point is 00:51:17 like Showtime and shit? Yeah, I remember that guy. He's been HBO, yeah. well I knew it was one of those things he said I convinced the bravils owner Dennis Hoff a shameless self-promoter who proudly called himself the PT Barnum of Pussy to bail Thorson out of jail and move him into the bravill as a PR stunt
Starting point is 00:51:39 where he became an official greeter to the Bordello's patrons for a number of months until he was eventually sent back to prison for parole violations during his stay with this, I became his personal minder and actually found him to be a very kind soul with a tragic propensity for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, like the Forrest Gump of Hollywood debauchery.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So he not only tried to save Lamar Odom, but he tried to reform Liberace's lover. And it gets better. he's also That's my Liberace Ladies and gentlemen I'm sorry Richard is also a fan of
Starting point is 00:52:27 Remember what I said That my friend out in Eastern Kentucky Sent me the Tojo Yamamoto Album Oh yeah The noise rock Conceptualist Involving the newest member
Starting point is 00:52:40 of ZZ Top and blah blah blah That's right Well he said I was actually I was actually going to send you The Tojo Yamamoto album For your birthday but he already heard that I got it, so he sent me a Tojo Yamamoto hoodie,
Starting point is 00:52:56 a band hoodie, with Tojo Yamamoto on it. Do I need a better description? I think you've described it just fine. Okay, well, you're just, you're not even saying, well, that's cool. Does it have an image of Tojo? Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Is his family getting a cut? Well, it's got the goddamn, just Tojo Yamamoto and the, stars and the fucking would you stop now trying to create trouble I'm looking for a new client and I hear that the Yamamoto family is looking for representation
Starting point is 00:53:29 if you ever overdose in bed with two hookers out of the fucking love ranch then I bet you Richard won't save you if you don't straighten up and finally that'll be the day I have to pay for it give me a break
Starting point is 00:53:43 well you'll pay for it or they'll rough you up in the back alley I found that one out the hard way but finally here's another goddamn now brian you've got to listen to this now is this still richard is another yes this is still richard he's in everything he's involved in everything also enclosed is a DVD documentary about the 53 pit bulls that were rescued from former NFL quarterback michael vicks dog fighting ring oh my god wow yeah how was he involved in that well hold on by the this is not richard this is me
Starting point is 00:54:18 but I'm sure Richard would probably vouch for it. Fuck Michael Vic, that piece of fucking shit. I can't believe they let him come back and play football. If those goddamn big, tough football players had one goddamn ounce of balls in their body they'd have told whoever the fuck owned those teams, we're not getting on the field with this piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Except if we do, we're going to stick our cleats up his ass and they should have run him out of the goddamn thing. But never they ought to be at prison for the rest of. rest of his fucking life. Because fuck you, Michael Vick, and what the fuck are you going to do about it? You know what the ought to have done? They ought to time down in the courthouse square.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Poor fucking honey all over. Spread eagle. Poor honey all over him. Put some fire ants on him and whatever's left over. Let the fucking kids in the neighborhood, 12 and under for 10 cents get to kick him in a fucking head. And adults, for 25 cents, get to kick him in a fucking balls.
Starting point is 00:55:18 to keep the price cheap so everybody can be involved, and then put him in a fucking rocket and blast his worthless ass to the moon. But that's just my opinion. Fucking piece of shit. Anyway. Again, what's Richard's involvement with it? I'm about to tell you.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I will tell you right now. My girlfriend and I, this is Richard speaking again, my girlfriend and I are featured in this documentary as we adopted one of those pit bulls from the sanctuary that they were sent to after the police raid on Vic's House of Horrors. And our dog Mel lived to be almost 15 years old before peacefully passing away at a ripe old age. Eddie was actually the sweetest and most loving dog I've ever known. So they have three other rescued pit bulls.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And finally, in his personal connection to me, when I was 10 years old, you scream at me ringside of Will Rogers Coliseum in Fort Worth that you were going to have your mother's lawyers sue all of us. And my mom then had to explain to me what a lawsuit was. Thank you for not following through on that. So that Richard has been, I'd say he's been following me, but he's been following everybody. Wow. And I guess he left the prostitution business? I think maybe he's running the whole thing. Didn't that Dennis Hoff dive some kind of goddamn He did, but I thought he said at the beginning. I thought he said he was a former friendly
Starting point is 00:56:54 whorehouse owner or whatever it was. Well, that's what, you know, sometimes you have to say, Brian. But anyway, wink, wink, wink. Thank you, Richard. Well, I'll tell you, you know, here's the thing with Lamar fucking Odom. What was it he had?
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Starting point is 00:57:41 and to dull the pain of the existence on this cold, cruel, blue marble in the sky, you can't be just using shit to people mix up in underneath their bathroom sink or stuff that you need to call a doctor if it takes effect for more than four hours and you can't use that for four days straight see you need to be straight with this stuff clean pure high quality ingredients no fluff no fillers and the first thing that i think of when i hear that bryan you know is our friends at cb distillery that's right well i'm glad you agree with me because they have targeted formulations made from the highest quality
Starting point is 00:58:26 clean ingredients, pure effective CBD solutions designed to help support your health. Well, not your health specifically, Brian, but the royal you, all of your health-nesses out there, would it be yours health, your health-s-es? All the lovely people of the world, how would you say that and bring them all in on? I don't know if there's a way to say, because I don't even know what the hell you're trying to say. The health of all the people? The health of all the people? All the health of all the people?
Starting point is 00:59:00 All the health of all the people. Well, there you go. That's why I was asking. See, that's why you went to school. That's why I have you here. I went to community college for two years. Well, they see, they taught you something. You know, when I was in school, the teacher said I was the most brilliant students she ever had.
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Starting point is 00:59:53 Let's say every time you walk down the street, people are just kicking a shit out of you. Well, if you take a couple of these, it won't hurt so bad. And 90% said they sleep better with CBD products from CBdistillery.com. And if 90% of the people say it, then it must be true. any other 10% are lying, right? No, I mean, different people have different thoughts, different opinions, that's one of the great things about civilization.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Well, once you start taking to CBD, everyone's thoughts will be the same, and every pattern will be the same, and every routine will be the same. None of this. That's not how it works. Soon, the Romulans. But right now, there's two million
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Starting point is 01:01:40 The promo code is JCE. And then, as I mentioned before, if you're lucky enough to be called upon for your opinion to mean something in the world, maybe you can be a part of one of our fine, high-quality, non-clinical surveys. Where do you think we're getting these numbers? Just pulling them out of our ass? I wasn't sure. You've got to be an important son of a bitch for CB Distillery to trust you. But folks, you can trust them.
Starting point is 01:02:09 So go to sleep. quit hurting and calm the fuck down. CBdistillery.com promo code JCE. All right, Brian, well, nobody's going to get a good amount of sleep and nobody's going to be calm until we answer the most pressing question on the minds of everybody today around the wrestling world, the hot issue that everybody's talking about it. Who's Danny Garcia going to sign with?
Starting point is 01:02:38 Well, Daniel Garcia, to be clear, Danny Garcia is the gigantic wife or ex-wife of the rock, not the AEW wrestler. Well, if you're friends with him, do you have to call him Daniel? Can you maybe Dan? Maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Maybe Big D. You don't got to call him Daniel. This is a story because we've been talking about the idea that WWE, I guess they went and made a play for swerve, and swerve signed a renewal with AEW that was for an amount that WWE was shocked by. The thought was that the same thing is going to happen with Daniel Garcia. And now there's a headline and a bunch of the listeners have been sending this over this morning. From the Wrestling Observer Newsletter website by Ian Carey,
Starting point is 01:03:28 AEW less confident Daniel Garcia will resign. Ooh. If I go to the article here, AEW is not as confident. as they once were that Daniel Garcia will re-sign with the company. Always repeat the headline as the first sentence, I guess. Last month, it was reported that while Garcia and AEW had not come to terms on a new deal, the promotion believed he was most likely staying. However, our own Dave Meltzer noted on last night's wrestling observable radio...
Starting point is 01:04:01 I'm glad they claim him. Noted on last night's Wrestling Observer Radio that AEW is... is no longer as certain as they once were. Why don't we stop there for a second? Again, Daniel Garcia's contracts coming out. What was the last, was the last time we saw him when he wrestled MJF at the pay-per-view? Well, that's right.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Where is Danny? He hasn't been on TV. He laid out MJF bad enough that MJF is selling injuries and is off television, and now Danny Garcia hurt MJF so bad Danny Garcia's selling the injuries and he's off television. So I don't understand. One would think that if they wanted to capitalize on what they did at the pay-per-view, they would have the guy that triumphantly slayed the dragon, MJF,
Starting point is 01:04:58 and got even for the treacherous and horrible things that have been done to him and blah, blah, blah, to come and crow about it. but instead he's hidden too. So that means they're ashamed. They'll probably have buyers' remorse now for what they did on the pay-per-view because if the knucklehead doesn't come back, then the last time we saw him in the company was he's a fucking middle card bleh
Starting point is 01:05:23 who laid out the top heel in the company. Harley has an allergy, by the way, for those that might be listening in. So how does that make sense, Brian, that they would have both of them off television and why, if you didn't know that this guy was coming back, would you have him lay out the top guy in the company? Well, let's see if this explains that. Here's a quote from Dave Meltzer.
Starting point is 01:05:57 As far as what's going to happen with him, I would say this. I would say that the almost surety or the strong confidence that he was signing, I wouldn't say it's as strong, but I wouldn't say that he's leaving either. But it may not be as strong as it was a month ago. He may leave.
Starting point is 01:06:18 What or what? I don't know what I just read. Was that? That's a quote, right? As far as what's going to happen with him, I would say this. All right, so this is what he's saying. I would say that the almost surety
Starting point is 01:06:32 or the strong confidence that he was signing, I wouldn't say it's as strong, but I wouldn't say that he's leaving either, but it's not as strong as it was a month ago. He may leave. Are these lyrics on like another level? Yes, I think, yes. He's singing from both sides of the relationship.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I do believe it's not as strong as it was last month. whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa he may stay he may leave Melzer Thank you I must be going might be the new theme song
Starting point is 01:07:17 they play on Saturday nights Meltzer continued to say that Garcia not being on AEW programming of late is due to his not having re-signed Meltzer says Tony Kahn is often hesitant to put talent on AEW programming if he feels they are likely going to leave the company
Starting point is 01:07:33 when their contracts are up. Hence Mero in Bulgaria for five years. They will send him to the Russian front. Here's a quote from Dave. If they believe somebody's not going to sign, and that's why a lot of guys that you see or don't see, there's a reason that you don't see because the belief is when their contract is up,
Starting point is 01:07:58 they are going to go. And if that's the case, Tony's just not going to put them on T's. TV. He could go in there and job them, but some of them complain. But some of them complain? But some of them complain. Oh, my God. He just didn't want to put them on TV in a lot of cases. I think we've seen that. And with that, we want to say a lot of Ricky Starks out there in Texas. We hope you're doing well. We hope to see you soon.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Is he one of the sick and shut-ins and listens to our program? Oh, okay, but back up. Back the fuck up a second. How long before the end of your contract? How long? I could understand. Yeah, the fuck, he's checked out. He's six weeks, his contract is up, whatever the fuck him. We don't need him anyway, put so-and-so or whatever. But a year and a fucking half, when we don't see some of these, there are plenty of people. people that we don't see for a year, year. And then they come back. And they're back for a while. And then they go away. So you can't really tell. But how long before these alleged people's contracts are up, does he just say, oh, just
Starting point is 01:09:15 go home and I'll mail you a check every week? Because a lot of these people are gone for a long fucking time. So then is that that's the move? That's the thing. That's the move. Yeah. If you sign for three. years is it going to be that you only have to work the first two and then just let
Starting point is 01:09:34 them know I'm fucking I ain't happy and you get the extra years of bonus listen I'm a wrestler my family want to spend time with me day one I announce I'm signing with WWE in three years and then I go home and then I go home and then when he brings me in I tell him that I complain about the booking and I complain about who he wants me to job to and then he sends me home and pays me more I like this is the wrestler's dream Garcia, who turned 26 last week, debuted in AEW on an episode of Dark in September 2020, AEW announced he signed a full-time deal in October 2021,
Starting point is 01:10:13 Garcia is a former Ring of Honor Pure Champion, and the current pro wrestling guerrilla world champion. But only in the orangutan division. You know, again, if I know there's, there's, there's being sure and there's taking people's words and I've been the victim of trying to believe the best of people in the past. But he didn't even deserve to be in a pay-per-view match with MJF. It's just, he just a piece of goddamn cake with no icing.
Starting point is 01:10:52 It's fine. It's just there. It needs something maybe later down the road, whatever the fuck. But when it's MJF and it's your, top heel and the guy hasn't signed and he's all just fucking hospitalized MJF, it'll be all right. And beyond that, and take Daniel Garcia out of the picture, it could be any wrestler. If your philosophy is, I don't know if I'm going to resign him, so I'm going to keep him off TV. Why did you just spend months building him up?
Starting point is 01:11:19 They just built him up for the MJF thing. He lost the match, got the pile drivers at the end, and then he disappeared. What sense did that make? Was that a better feud than MJF versus Hecichero? Oh, I forgot about Chichia. Uh,
Starting point is 01:11:39 uh, and he, and so if Garcia doesn't, well, here's, this is goddamn. This is going to make him a baby face in AEW when he resigns that. But he,
Starting point is 01:11:50 no, here's what he's done. Here's what he's done. Because Tony seems to me to have an orderly mind on, about these things, about his ideas. He wants his ideas to come to fruition. So now he knows if this knucklehead
Starting point is 01:12:08 doesn't sign again, then MJF will never get his revenge, so he's automatically got to pay him more to make sure that he resigns because elsewise Tony's big angle will be all for naught. That's what it is. Because I've got to be honest with you, what is the WWE wanting there that they haven't got?
Starting point is 01:12:34 What attribute of Garcia's are they wanting to purchase there that they don't have people that have multiple examples of that particular talent or skill or whatever the case? I don't know. I don't know what their motivation is or isn't. But if you're Garcia and this is true... Or are they just trying to drive Tony's fucking payroll up again? If you're Garcia and this is true, and you have Tony's...
Starting point is 01:13:00 Con offering you above market value versus WWE offering you fair or maybe even below fair market value to come in, but you'll be in NXT and you'll be part of it. The system. The vortex. You know, you never know what happens and, you know, give someone like that a couple of years in NXT. Who knows? Who knows how they develop with real, you know, I'm not even going to get into his initial training. He's been in AEW for a few
Starting point is 01:13:30 years, we hear from enough people and we know enough about what's going on there. That's not a great place to grow and learn. And who knows what NXT would do for him. Also, Brandon Thurston trained him. Brandon Thurston of WrestleManiaics. If this kid has a couple bitters, he's also got people he could talk to about what the hell should I do? Well, yeah, you know, he should be a human calculator. So he's got that going for him. What would you do if you were him? I jump off a bridge. Seriously, all that money from Tony for three or five years versus three-year deal from WWE, they send you to NXT.
Starting point is 01:14:13 We'll see how it goes. You're not going to make as much. You have to move to Florida. From what I've seen of Mr. Garcia, if I was Mr. Garcia, I'd take Tony's money. if now if if Garcia in five years is a big star and I'm not talking about if Tony's still around I'm talking about as a big star in this business probably in the WWE to be a big star in this business then I will you can play me the tape of those words and I'll cut up the tape and
Starting point is 01:14:47 eat it on the air yeah I don't know if that would benefit anyone so we're not going to do that? Well, that's something we can build to. We can advertise. Garcia's got five years from right now to become a superstar or elsewise, I'm going to have to eat tape on the air. This is how I can tell you're becoming a goddamn, this is programming here. This is the sign that you're aging right here. It used to be just a few years ago. I will strip naked and march down Main Street playing songs and singing and dancing. Well, it's something now that I have the energy to really do that I would do. But see, it's long-term storytelling because people will be count down the time will he have to eat his words if you know you have someone you as a booker
Starting point is 01:15:30 like and want to do things with and their contracts coming up in a year or six months or three months or six weeks how do you treat it well if it's coming up in a a fucking year you still try to get as much out of them as you can get and you don't if they become a superstar you'd like to keep them, you pay them more if they get over real good. But there's no reason to start fucking usher to get out the door. He's going to be with you for a year. Six months to 90 days, you know, well, let's start thinking about what's going on. Do I have a spot for him or is somebody else I'd like to bring in and be fresh or whatever? And then talk to him. Is he want to hang around, or is he got interest in going somewhere else?
Starting point is 01:16:20 But not a year and certainly not. Next month, your contract's up. What the fuck? Would you like to pile drive some people and incapacitate them and then decide later? There's some middle ground in between that. Well, that's AEW contract news. Speaking of... And Dave Meltzer turning into Captain Beefheart.
Starting point is 01:16:45 what it's it's just it's just it I used to think you know and there was I'll just make this brief comment
Starting point is 01:16:56 there was some element of I know he's just rushing to type some things right you could overlook that but now it's like how does he think that way and come out the other end of it and speaking
Starting point is 01:17:11 coming out the other end that's a good transition the Vince McMahon Netflix thing by the time the people hear this will have been flung upon the world but it's still what 36 hours away from us so we are going to
Starting point is 01:17:29 be trying to cover this whole thing on the drive-through six hours of Vince McMahon's life we may all go to hell just for watching it right but that's your program so you're you're cracking the whip on me.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I can't wait to watch this. I think it's going to be a big thing. And, of course, now here ahead of it, a day ahead of it, two days ahead of it, Vince McMahon issuing a statement preemptively. He's already trying to temper expectations, right? And I believe last week, Janelle Grant's attorneys held a very short press conference
Starting point is 01:18:05 just saying that, you know, her case is real and whatever the producers do here. I think, at least initially, there's distrust on one side, and now it appears that distrust with the producers is coming from Vince. Let me pull up the quote here. Any comments or thoughts on it? Well, yeah, because I said the statement that grants people, grants people, sounds like we're talking about appomatics, the fucking, that Grant's attorneys put out was just kind of, hey, you know, heads up, remember this is still an ongoing thing and we
Starting point is 01:18:42 you know we don't know how this Netflix thing is going to turn out or you know whatever just stating their position but then Vince actually because they they really don't they have no reason to have discovery over anything related to that
Starting point is 01:19:00 because Vince never spoke to him after this allegation in Janelle Grant was made public so they're in the dark like a lot of people are that haven't actually seen the thing yet. Well, Vince, Vince is in it. Well, I was about to say Vince is in it. And Vince is apparently seen at least some of it.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Because he's already, as you said, preemptively, going, well, now, wait a minute. Go ahead. And actually, it should be noted because that happened before this, Dave Meltzer is saying that Vince attempted to purchase the film back from Netflix, which is something Oprah Winfrey just did. Apple did, I think it was Apple, did a documentary about her. She hated the way it turned out, bought it back, suppressed it. And Vince made an attempt, oh shit, I agreed to this. It's all gone to hell in a handbasket. I'm going to buy it back and they wouldn't sell it back to him. And then according to Dave Meltzer, Vince tried to get Ari Emanuel to do something about it.
Starting point is 01:20:04 And nothing was done. Well, for Vince to actually go to a big brother, that's a very unusual. And now one thing that I have been reliably informed on is that Vince did indeed sit down for this. You've seen him in the trailer. He did speak to these people and he was in support of or had people close to him support the thing until the, not even Janelle Grant, but just the first allegation or revealment of an NDA for
Starting point is 01:20:39 the payments made for improper things with women. Whoever that first one was, my God, it's been so long ago, Brian. But that was when he stopped talking to these people and I would assume the people that he would have given the okay to talk to, they stopped talking to them.
Starting point is 01:21:02 So they don't have any footage of him talking about the last couple years. but that doesn't mean they're not going to be covering it because they can't just leave it to a graphic at the end of the screen at the end of, you know, episode six. That's probably why it's taking so long from the time that we heard
Starting point is 01:21:25 it was going to be coming out until it actually is out because they found out they had a lot more fish to fry, so to speak. And again, we're thinking about just Janelle Grant, the Rita Chatterton thing, led to him paying her millions of dollars for it to go away. So now that that happened after the production, there's something that I think happened in 86 or 87 that if they're telling the story in order,
Starting point is 01:21:52 there'll be some reference there. We don't know. But here's the statement Vince McMahon released on Twitter. Now you're going to hurt yourself. I'm sorry, I was just preparing myself. That's what Janelle said. You're going to hurt yourself. Oh, come on, we'd be nice.
Starting point is 01:22:10 What the hell kind of comment is that? Let's get to this statement here. That didn't mean she was out of shape. I don't regret participating in this Netflix documentary. The producers had an opportunity to tell an objective story about my life and the incredible business I built, which were equally filled with excitement, drama, fun, and a fair amount of controversy, and life lessons.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Unfortunately, based on an early partial cut I've seen this dock falls short and takes a predictable path of conflating the Mr. McMahon character with my true self Vince
Starting point is 01:22:53 the title and promos alone make that evident a lot has been misrepresented or left out entirely in an effort to leave viewers intentionally confused the producers use typical editing tricks with out-of-context footage
Starting point is 01:23:12 and dated sound bites, etc., to distort the viewers' perception and support a deceptive narrative. In an attempt to further their misleading account, the producers use a lawsuit based on an affair
Starting point is 01:23:29 I ended as evidence that I am, in fact, Mr. McMahon. And it wasn't me, it was her. she was the one in the wrong I kicked her out I hope the viewer will keep an open mind and remember
Starting point is 01:23:44 there are two sides to every story Oh boy So already He's Already he's pulling the editing And oh my gosh And it's a
Starting point is 01:23:57 Don't believe your eyes and ears And the things of people say in this It was altered Are you surprised that we're getting it here Just a couple days out I mean, this is something, when pushed against the wall, he's taken to the air in the past, whether it was the steroid thing, whether it was right as it was starting up and then when he won the trial, or with the attacks on the content being Russo-Ithic and everything kind of degenerating into the late 90s period of just no class anywhere in society.
Starting point is 01:24:31 You know, he went to the airwaves and he explained that, you know, we're not going to be old-fashioned. and we're going to take a new approach. And, you know, this is something he tends to do. You surprised that there's no video statement? Well, probably not, but are you surprised the only statement is right now, two days out? Well, see, before he had a platform, which I don't know that he's particularly welcome, you know, at the tower, the new tower. and to be honest, I'm wondering if he knows now that he ain't got it, he ain't got the energy, he doesn't come off well, is he finally,
Starting point is 01:25:14 because that's an awful polite statement, denial, you know, issue muddying tweet or whatever from Vince that the old Vince may have been more direct and in your face and fuck off and etc. Does he realize that he hadn't got the look or the energy or the voice or the wherewithal
Starting point is 01:25:41 to match the old Vince? Is he trying to stay low-key and nice old man? At what point does he get Kevin done to produce his own documentary about himself? I'm not even joking. What did Vince get when he sold the company?
Starting point is 01:25:53 He got the rights to his name and his likeness, not the footage, obviously, but he got a lot of rights. that most people wouldn't get. And Kevin Dunn's also his biggest all-time lackey. And he got $2 billion
Starting point is 01:26:07 so he wouldn't have to worry about financing the flick. But yeah, and that's from a partial I viewed a partial cut. Jesus Christ. Otherwise, and the whole thing is a complete propaganda piece put together by the
Starting point is 01:26:26 interior department of Stalinism or whatever. that's from a part of it I saw That's the thing Focus on my business and how big I built it Not everything I did along the way Janelle Grant's attorney And Callis No relation
Starting point is 01:26:45 Issued a statement Vince McMahon Physically and Emotionally abused Sexually assaulted And human traffic Janelle Grant For more than two years Calling his horrific And criminal behavior
Starting point is 01:27:01 an affair, an affair is delusional and nothing more than a sad attempt to save his shredded reputation. Although Miss Grant has not seen the Mr. McMahon docu-series, we hope it shines a bright light on his abhorrent and criminal actions by accurately portraying the realities of his abusive and exploitive behavior. Ms. Grant will no longer be silenced by McMahon. Her story, though deeply troubling and emotionally painful, is one that could help other abuse survivors find their voices. We seek to hold McMahon, John Laurenitis, and WWE, accountable, and to give Ms. Grant her day in court. Boy, howdy, old Johnny Ace is always sandwiched right in between the big man,
Starting point is 01:27:56 Alphonse, Scarface himself, and the rest of the Chicago, mob, isn't he? It's like he's Frank Nitty. He was Vince's guy, I mean, to the point where they were doing this shit together in the office, do you think Johnny Ace is going to be one of the talking heads in the documentary, up until like the point where Vince stopped cooperating? I don't know because this still, it's Netflix, and would they want his head to talk just for the aesthetics of it? Well, then you could point out that he's the other party accused of being a party to this.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I'm just thinking when they, when they set him down and they closed in on the headshot for the sitting down interview, they say, oh, fuck that fucking face. Jesus Christ, just pass on him. Well, the anticipation is building. I mean, this is going to be some kind of fucking documentary. Apparently, we were wrong. It's not going to be 3 a.m. It may debut at midnight, at which case that we may have to pushback recording. I may stay up all night.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Oh, wait, what, now, hold on now. Hold on now. Well, that midnight is 3 a.m. depending on which side of the night. the country, which side of the country are they on? Are they on the right side or the left side? Maybe it's 3 a.m. Eastern. Well, I'll see it in the morning, but six hours.
Starting point is 01:29:10 How are they going to fill up six hours? Oh, there's, if there are people not only willing to tell stories about Vince McMahon, but also there are plenty of stories to tell about Vince McMahon and plenty of things to cover in his life, you can. could fill six hours, it just remains to be seen, I think, how poor Vince ultimately himself in the documentary and his, his rather sullied reputation or whatever they said is going to come off. In the end of it. You see, can't talk anymore.
Starting point is 01:29:51 See, that kind of thing might work against him now, whereas before he could, he was like Anthony Perkins. What he were he could talk like, even though there was. there's a psycho in there somewhere he could talk like an innocuous, regular everyday person, and then he suddenly slapped fucking Bob Costas' notebook out of his hand or whatever the fuck is going on. But now it's just, he's hunched over grumbling, oh man, you know how to talk about the
Starting point is 01:30:22 never notwithstanding. And now it's just, it's weird. It's weird. This is a great buildup for Shane McMahon's return, I think. Well, yeah, no, he's going to AEW, because that angle with the plumber ripping off an independent flick from Australia 30 years ago proves that Shane McMahon will soon be working and, yeah, fuck the fucking hell.
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Starting point is 01:35:49 For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.com slash FT Ball. NFL Plus premium offer available only to new and former NFL plus subscribers. Additional NFL plus premium terms at NFL.com slash terms. Well, I'll tell you, the last time he came into the studio, I reached in my back pocket to pull my wallet out and shook hands with that guy. Now would you like to talk about SmackDown? We got to catch up with the WWE, because the last program we did, we caught up with the AEW.
Starting point is 01:36:22 And now we've got to give them equal time. Over the weekend, they had the Smackdown and the Raw. And I'll tell you. Over the weekend, it's Smackdown and Raw. Friday and Monday. That's over the weekend. What, what, what, I mean, that's literally over the weekend as in it doesn't touch, it doesn't touch the weekend. Well, across the way, would you rather me say across the weekend? What do you just, see, that's why you're just questioning everything.
Starting point is 01:36:49 I don't understand why you bring the weekend into it. It's the week. Those, that's the start of the end of the week. Since the last time that you and I spoke to do one of these programs, it has gone from Friday night to Monday or to Tuesday morning. right and this is the wrestling that has happened over that weekend in the sense that before and after the weekend yes monday's not monday night's not the weekend unless it's a holiday weekend which one of us is alvarez in this now it's not my job anyway the smackdown for september 20th i just wanted to acknowledge a couple of things that went on because it has been a few days ago now but i wanted to call attention to a couple of things.
Starting point is 01:37:33 And one of them is to help one of the people that I hold dear to my heart. Not you. But they were in Sacramento, California at 14,549 people. In Sacramento. I apologize to the people of Sacramento, but Sacramento's not known
Starting point is 01:37:52 historically for being a major goddamn wrestling capital, is it? I remember back in the 90s they weren't doing 15,000 fucking people. But, I mean, again, just the look of the show is even when they do the the wrestling tropes, as the kids say, the backstage stuff, and this is shot at least more professionally, or it looks like more thought has gone into it, or there's some extra level of professionalism to whatever, right? Do you agree with me on that from the WW program to the AEW programs?
Starting point is 01:38:36 Not even just that, from WW programs to WW5 years ago. Everyone always talked about WW production, how good it was. They were good at being static and looking great at that, but now we've seen a whole new level of production. This is major league like it's never been before. Yeah. the the WWE
Starting point is 01:38:54 stopped progressing with the great production when they were the WWF practically because of the Kevin Dunn era they got the reputation for being good and stayed just good enough
Starting point is 01:39:05 to be good, right? But this is a whole other level of stuff. But having said that, let me call your attention to something at the top of the program. Because we would scoff at this if it was done in AEW
Starting point is 01:39:23 and at the same point while it was done it was done more seriously here and more shot somewhat more well done etc I still they're gonna fucking they're gonna burn this thing out with the bloodline
Starting point is 01:39:41 or they're going to lose this thing as the guys used to say when they were complained to the booker we're going to lose this thing the bloodline come into the arena earlier and they're in the back and they're having to come through a metal detector like they're entering the
Starting point is 01:39:56 courthouse or whatever and they want to be seen or portrayed as malevolent, gangsters whatever. So Toma Tonga comes through first and he kind of blows off the guy trying to pat him down
Starting point is 01:40:13 and then Tonga Loa comes there, get away from me but Jacob Fatu comes through, the sets the thing off, and when the guy goes to pat him down, he headbutts him and super kicks him and beats up
Starting point is 01:40:27 the other guys, and boom, boom. Right, and normally, I would say bullshit, and I have to say bullshit here, even though it looked better than normal when these things are done, except for Jacob Fatu needs to quit doing
Starting point is 01:40:47 these fucking head butts. Because it's his go-to, it's his nervous tick now in a match if he doesn't if he's not ready to do the next other thing he's going to do he's going to headbut a guy or he the headbutt backstage they don't
Starting point is 01:41:03 look that good he's got so many things that he can do that look amazing unless he's going to draw back and really headbut to motherfucker which I don't recommend he needs to drastically cut back on him
Starting point is 01:41:20 but if you've got him the reason why that he has gotten over more quickly than anybody else in the bloodline saga has gotten over when they were first introduced is because he can do all that impressive stuff
Starting point is 01:41:38 and they have had him do it to top main event talent but if they start making him another one of these regular guys that is doing way too much bullshit back in the back to people that's
Starting point is 01:41:53 if they want to get him over as a real life tough guy let him snatch a motherfucker by the neck and intimidate him and shove him down on his ass but he doesn't have to do super kicks to the goddamn staff do you see where I'm going with this
Starting point is 01:42:10 it takes a level of believability away from him that his talent gives him in general role. I've never been a big fan of certain headbutts. Sometimes it looks good. Ria Ripley makes it always look and sound good, but that's a different way that most people have ever done it. But like the headbutt off the top rope onto an opponent, to me that's something that as a fan I never like because it just doesn't, it doesn't look, it has to be explained because
Starting point is 01:42:42 it doesn't look like the head's just balking off the head. It looks like the head's hitting something else. I haven't noticed that Jacob Fatu's. has been overdoing it. Obviously, you saw him at the beginning of his career. Well, no, I'm talking about just what I saw on this show and just the last couple of weeks, whether he's in an angle or in a match, a transition thing, if he's dropped an elbow on a guy,
Starting point is 01:43:05 he might pick the guy up and just do the headbutt to him as he's going back to tag or whatever. But it's a lot of them, and they don't look stunning. And it's a smaller move. if he was going to fucking grab a guy by his hair with his left hand and rare back like goddamn
Starting point is 01:43:25 you know one of the 60s fucking guys and do the big Cocoa butt boom may be okay but just these little short head butts from this otherwise incredibly impressive guy I think he's just
Starting point is 01:43:43 it's a crutch he's using he's relying to punch the guy at least because it's easier for the people in the cheap seats to see when you punch than when you're doing his little tight fucking headbuts. It's a little piccadillo, but nevertheless. I think the problem is also, not the headbutts, that's a minor chap of my ass.
Starting point is 01:44:05 But the main thing is they can't start having Jacob actually come out and start burning people's house down or whatever because he's got some credibility and some believability, but I don't want them to just do too much of this where people go, eh, yeah, you know what I mean, but the first match was the yeah guy
Starting point is 01:44:30 for the United States title LA Knight and Andrade. Did you watch this match? This match was really good. Yes, it's good. It was good. And the whole thing was done to set up another match between,
Starting point is 01:44:48 Andrede and Carmelo. I say the problem is LA night is really over and these people in Sacramento, because that's close to L.A. This is hometown. They love him and they like to see this thing and they had a good match
Starting point is 01:45:12 so they got to people into it. But Andrade as a just a regular you know, habit is kind of me. And so, you know, it was what it was. But basically, you know, they ended up, L.A. night wins. Hayes makes fun of fucking Andrade in the back for losing and they get in a big fight and now they're going to have another fucking, they've had like six matches or they're
Starting point is 01:45:44 doing a best of seven or whatever the fuck they're doing. What are they doing? Well, I mean, if they put a limit on this? Because they were, they showed their, their record at one point, the graphics, they've had six fucking matches. Or this is going to be the sixth or whatever. You don't have any idea whether there's a thing. Because you just, so then you were, oh, you didn't watch this? This was a great match.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Now you know absolutely nothing about what was going on. I don't pay attention to the commentary, especially if it's like, it's a game on or something. I watched a match and I was really impressed with the match and I started listening to the commentary by the end of it. I thought it was a hell of a run there at the end of that match and the fans are really into it. And it's not because they're in Sacramento. I think L.A. Knight has proven
Starting point is 01:46:36 almost every place they go is his hometown based on the reactions. The problem is, who's he going to work with? There's no one, I shouldn't say that, but it doesn't feel like there's anyone at that kind of level that's a heel for him to bounce off that would work right now. Maybe I'm just not thinking of the person. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:57 See, that's the problem. Who do you envision him working with? I can't even think of what the guy would be. They got a bunch of top people, but they haven't been putting him in with any of them since the Logan Paul thing. And he's got Zebel, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:14 his challengers list is less than scintillating. But that's, you know, that's the thing. is that all of their matches now on television, except for some of the girls or whatever, they're going to be reasonably good because all these guys are professional
Starting point is 01:47:32 and they've been trained and et cetera, et cetera, and they're not going to, you know, have egregious fuck-ups in the most part and flop dollars gone, so we can't even look forward to that anymore. But at the same time, you don't care about, you know, what's going to happen in a lot of these,
Starting point is 01:47:52 matches. But people live are having a wonderful time. And that pretty much covers that, doesn't it? I guess that about covers it. And like I said, LA night's still over. And the match was really good. But last week, if you remember when we did the ratings, Andrade versus Carmelo was the lowest, the lotus, was the lowest, it was the lowest, it was the lowest rated quarter of the entire show, even though it still did 1.6-something million viewers. Hello, can you go? We're going to talk about that a minute too with their ratings on USA now but everybody was wanting us to comment on or talk about
Starting point is 01:48:30 or whatever the the heist movie that they filmed the big Hollywood blockbuster motion picture summit meeting of the two dons from the dairy it could be like in the old days instead of
Starting point is 01:48:46 Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns it could have been James Cagney and Humphrey Bogart or Al Pacino and Robert De Niro Or Leo Gorsi and Hunts Hall They met on the east side They're at the Bowery where the dead end was And the group of kids I love this thing
Starting point is 01:49:13 Did you not like this thing And the Rock bought them all six SUVs for them Yeah really You know I'm conflicted I really thought it was well done and I guess it's come out Paul Heyman personally directed it. See, he has more in common with Alfred Hitchcock
Starting point is 01:49:30 than you people realized. I thought it was really good, but, you know, I've thought this, the last couple of promos about Cody, that he's starting to get too much into the talking like bullshit again. No one's going to be able to relate to him pretty soon if he keeps talking the way he's talking. He's always wanted to be an actor.
Starting point is 01:49:49 He excelled in this kind of thing. Roman Raines, we've heard that he's wanted to be an actor. I think he's relying too much on his facial twitches and ticks. Like it's at a point now where I just don't buy it at all. They were both really good in this, but it was a fucking cinematic thing where as they're walking up, there's a camera behind them, and then you see them from the front, the camera's gone,
Starting point is 01:50:11 and then there's a camera to the side, but then they show you that side. They immediately showed you everywhere the camera was in the previous shot and there's no camera. So I have a problem. with that. I don't like that kind of stuff mixed in with the wrestling, but as a little mini-movie, like, I don't know, thriller. I don't know exactly. And then they should have broke out the zombie dance. Can you see Cody and Roman if they'd have done it? Doon, do, do, do, do, do.
Starting point is 01:50:38 But no, but here's the thing. I'm not offended by the cinematic presentation when nobody's having a fight. When it's not a win. If they want to, because let's face it. it. This was a big time looking deal and people don't even know what we're talking about. Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes had a face-to-face meeting in Atlanta on the
Starting point is 01:51:02 Georgia Tech football field where Roman had played football for Georgia Tech. And they have the incredible the drone shots now and all this shit of these this row of black SUVs pulling up
Starting point is 01:51:19 like six or seven of them. And Roman gets out of one, and I don't know who else was in every other one of them, but, and then Cody pulls up, and what kind of sports car was that, Mr. Last? You're a young person. I don't know. I don't buy sports car. Was that a Lambert Dotson or a fucking... It was a waste of money, I believe. A Bentley Geeney. Can't even declare that on your taxes like you can, the big truck. But whatever. Waste of money. Well, maybe it was a diesel engine, though. Remember what those were actually cheaper? See, that's what he should have done.
Starting point is 01:51:52 That was the move. If he had showed up in like a fucking Honda Civic, Roman wouldn't have known what to think. No, that would have been a dusty thing. Dusty would have showed up in a pickup truck. Well, but it would have been an old pickup truck. Anyway, Cody pulls up in one sports car, but he's still wearing a suit.
Starting point is 01:52:10 And they meet on the 50-yard line, but it made him look like stars. That's why it was like a heist movie. It was incredibly, done and it made them look and you could see them in a fucking movie and they didn't look out of place i mean loo turn to put fucking adam page or one of those fucking weasels over there in a real legitimate fucking movie and they'd be shaking like dog shit and peach seeds but and they weren't having a fight it was a conversation of summit meeting between these two guys that
Starting point is 01:52:52 are going to have to coexist to work together on the team and the big show and what's going to happen and blah, blah, blah. And Roman came into it, let's get one thing straight. This is my football field. It means it's my stadium. It means it's my city. And then Cody came back with, no, on the other side of this stadium's Techwood Drive. And down the road is center stage.
Starting point is 01:53:17 And over there's what used to be the Omni. and multiple generations of my family have bled for this city and in this city and this is my home. Multiple generations? Well, too. The Dustin's older. Dustin's in the middle there.
Starting point is 01:53:37 You might as well call him his own generation. So you're not considering like Dusty's kids are the next generation, Dusty's generation one, their generation two. It's just every 20 years you're actually talking? It sounded better. so anyway when he said that the one thing I liked the best about that
Starting point is 01:53:55 was when he said that to Roman all of a sudden and this has got to be a Heyman this was a Heyman Roman kind of breaks and smirks and says you know what that impressed me okay let's get down to business and Roman had established that he could acknowledge
Starting point is 01:54:11 that Cody got a pretty good line on him so let's talk about what we're going to have to fucking do and you know, Roman's thing is the fight in the bloodline is dangerous and he doesn't have anything to lose but Cody does and Cody, you know, it told him he warned him
Starting point is 01:54:33 he'd be a chief without a tribe and you gave him the the whole you know fucking reality check about what was going on so the Roman says what do you want? What do you want? I want
Starting point is 01:54:48 to know that I want your word that you're going to have my back is what Cody says. And so Roman says, I give you my word. I'll have your back, but when it's done, I'm taking back what's mine, which is obviously the belt. And he starts to walk off and Cody fucking steps in and says, it's not yours to take. And then Roman Raines' last line is, you're in my way in life. And it was a very, it was very,
Starting point is 01:55:26 was that Scorsese-ish or was that, you know, Hitchcockian? I don't think either of those directors, those fantastic directors, I think this was really good, but it was not either of their styles. You know, this is what Heyman wants. Heyman wants an Emmy. And if there was anyone in that company,
Starting point is 01:55:46 I would have faith in doing cinema. stuff, it's Heyman. And this was really good and both guys are really good. I'm just not a fan of these kind of segments that been reality on my wrestling shows. But they were good in it and it was well done. And it looked great. I mean, it looked. It looked great.
Starting point is 01:56:05 They really should make a heist movie. I'd watch that too. You know, it brings to mind then how realistic. Because I always hate that. the fake shot cinematic fights, right? But then how realistic can an interview get? How many multiple camera setups can we have? It looked seamless.
Starting point is 01:56:31 We didn't have the idea that they were doing multiple takes. They got invisible cameras. You've seen the invisible camera people, haven't you? They had multiple invisible cameras. Sina has been for 25 years now going to all these cities, around the country impregnating these women and that's where they're getting their troop of invisible cameramen.
Starting point is 01:56:56 He just can't see them. Anyway, great stuff by these people. And Kevin Owens was in the back, scoffing and walking off. He is not happy. Or grumpy or dopey or doc or any of the other ones. They beat Da Vinci again, right?
Starting point is 01:57:21 Yeah. No, didn't it? Yeah, they did. Cruz rolled him up again and then Da Vinci dropped him on his head. I'm looking at my notes. Anyway, should we talk about Steen? We better get used to calling him that. I'm calling it.
Starting point is 01:57:39 He's going to be one of the ones that it takes Tony's retirement fund, I mean, contracts. Well, that's an interesting case to look at because if that's true, and if WWE thinks that, he's still on TV. You know, Daniel Garcia, who we just talked about, nothing's done, and he's just off TV. Kevin Steen, Kevin Owens, is still there. I mean, RICOchet, they used RICOchet right up until his contract was up. Yeah, they can get, they've got all this time invested in Owens,
Starting point is 01:58:12 and they know that he's not going to make any difference. That's not even in AEW. That's not a knock on. the talent and nobody is going to make a difference in AEW. They're just going to go there and take more of Tony's money. The ratings will stay mostly the same and everything else will stay mostly the same. But they're going to use this guy that they're paying and they've got an investment in. And if he goes, then most of the audience watching him right now won't know that he didn't
Starting point is 01:58:42 just quit wrestling. Right or wrong? Right. So why not use him? and he did an entrance and they like him, they were chanted for him, and he's like, thanks, guys. But he can't believe he just starts talking about Cody Teeman with Roman, after all that this has happened before. Well, right as he starts to talk about it, boom, here comes the bloodline, the Tongas and Jacob. And Tama talked his way to the ring.
Starting point is 01:59:21 And last week, Roman and Cody embarrassed the tribal chief, so they're going to get it in bad blood, but you're going to get yours tonight. And again, I say he's going to be perfect for AEW because Steen, instead of, well, you may be three of you, but I'll get the first one or two that comes through the ropes or whatever. It's like, well, we know why this is going to end up, so just jump up here so I can punch you in a face. he's being a smart ass about the whole thing being phony as usual he's got to be cute
Starting point is 01:59:57 and then he nails the Tongas he has to everybody's in a situation where they can just beat both the Tongas up but they got to fight even or sell for Jacob but then the Tongas will come from behind
Starting point is 02:00:17 and stop the guy and then here comes Champa and Gargano, and they make a comeback on the Tongas, but Owens just ducks Jacob and he jumps over the top on his own missing Owens, and security comes in and they sign a six-man tag for later on. But that, again, you know, they're getting something out of Owens, but it's not like he's being featured like we can't live without him. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Do we know when his contract is up? Is it the beginning of the year? Is it the end of this year? We were hearing somewhat imminently and that some deals we're trying to be made is all I've. Because you've got to wonder if he's going out, is he going out as a heel? Is he going out doing a big job to Cody? Because they're teasing the term. I keep teasing the shit with that.
Starting point is 02:01:15 I mean, we'll talk about it later. Yeah, but that would take the answer. edge off turning Orton later on on Cody, which is bigger money. I don't know. Yeah. They had a very awkward Texas
Starting point is 02:01:31 tornado match where Naomi and Bailey wrestled Tiffany in the fridge. The loser would leave Smackdown, but the winner, whoever got the pinfall would get a title match. So at one point, you had Bailey and Naomi double team
Starting point is 02:01:49 Tiffany, but then when Bailey covered Tiffany, Naomi had to make save for the title shot, blah, blah, blah. And I'll tell you, Jacks was bumping. Jacks took a double backdrop. Did you see any of this match?
Starting point is 02:02:07 No, I was so worn out from the movie earlier at the football game. Well, I'll tell you, it was a little awkward in spots, but Jacks, the refrigerator, she took a big double backdrop, she's working hard. And, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:26 I'll say this, Nia Jax has the kind of face a man likes. It's too bad a man didn't get it. But they had a, of what would be called a match here in some circles. And then both of the baby faces pinned Jacks at the same time. So now the baby faces are going to have to fight to see who gets the title match.
Starting point is 02:02:49 but in the middle of that tomfoolery, guess how many television sellouts they've had in 2024? Oh, I saw this recently. 35. 39. Guess how many events. Oh, quit. Guess how many events sellouts they've had.
Starting point is 02:03:13 How many event sellouts? In other words, whether it was televised or not. Oh, so that was just televised? Yeah, the 39 is the TV sellouts, but they've also sold out... 52. House show events, 58. 39 TVs and 58 total, apparently, but so far in the year, and they ain't running that often anymore.
Starting point is 02:03:37 And they just announced they're going to be cutting back, that their intention is to keep cutting back every year on how many shows they run. Did you see that? Well, yes, and, I mean, for the main roster at this point, you know, why the fuck not? Do you really, even if you're making hundreds of thousands of dollars at an arena event, now that's not even worth risking one of these guys getting hurt. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 02:04:05 It's insane. Yeah. But for the developmental program for training, for, you know, any kind of experience for young guys, I'm hoping they rethink that. and put some other kind of thing in place where there's some, there's got to be some level, even in NXT, where you have to surpass that before you can actually just say,
Starting point is 02:04:31 no, you're not going to go work the rec center in Punta Gorda or whatever the fuck to get experience. Anyway, it's not my job to worry about them. Did you watch the six-man tag, which was the big the main event the main event blah blah blah that was supposed to be
Starting point is 02:04:56 Owens and Champa and same face against the bloodline I did you know that was one of the things about earlier that they kind of established that maybe not want to see this match too much was Gargano and Champa being involved
Starting point is 02:05:08 well they weren't there long no because you see Owens's entrance and then on the screen the bloodline in the back have beat up Champa and Gargano and somebody's got a muffler stinging out of his ass or whatever
Starting point is 02:05:25 and then they come out and they start beating up Kevin Owens and then the street profits hit and fight the bloodline and we go to the break and then when we come back we have a bell for a six-man tag team match anyway so there's a somebody ought to do
Starting point is 02:05:46 a tabulation on one week of just both big companies television shows, how many fights in the back are there? And involvement in how many people? Because it's just, why not just have done this to begin with with these guys instead of do that angle? Or do you think, did somebody get fired in between Seg 2 and Seg 7? I don't know if it was that.
Starting point is 02:06:13 I don't think it was that. Well, you never know what people might hear on hidden microphones anymore. Anyway, um, is a six-man tag. Ford is a great leaper. You can tell K.O. is getting lazy at the
Starting point is 02:06:30 small stuff. I don't think his heart's in it. Tonga Loa stands around on the floor a lot. I mentioned again, Jacob Fatu needs to rely, in my notes here is where I mentioned to myself. Less on the head butts. He did like five of them.
Starting point is 02:06:48 in a row at one point. And I don't care if you're Samoan or not, if you're really hitting somebody that hard, you've got to register your own. But, you know, they went through a big, you know, back and forth finish,
Starting point is 02:07:05 and the people were liking it. And everybody, you know, hit all their shit and did dives and things, and then the referee rang the bell for the double disqualification. But fat, again, which is basically what I watched for and then kind of looked down when anybody else was in, continues to look incredible
Starting point is 02:07:28 with that minor headbut criticism I made, and they're using him right. And then finally Cody comes out with a chair when Jacob's beating up everybody and he nails the Tongas and does a cutter on Fatu. and then as Cody pops up, Orton picks up the chair and is behind Cody
Starting point is 02:07:55 but Cody turns and offers his hand out and Owens drops the chair and shakes his hand. But the tease is always there. Why I ought to? Should I, should I? But I don't think he will. I think that way when Orton does, they'll have lulled us into a false sense of security. I could be wrong, but I never have been.
Starting point is 02:08:22 It's probably one of those ricochet things, where ricochet got laid out by Brom Breaker and was left open. Like, you can return from the ambulance taking you away if you resign. Otherwise, they'll never see you again. And with Owens, it's, yeah, you can get something big like that. Otherwise, we're just going to keep teasing it. And then, you know, Orton or someone will squash him before he leaves. But you know what you just mentioned?
Starting point is 02:08:45 Well, you can return from the ambulance that carried you out. But in this case, the way Tony Kahn did it, he switched places. You can return from sending our top guy out in a fucking ambulance. Well, that was SmackDown.
Starting point is 02:09:05 It certainly was. And you know what? Sometimes, the Smackdown audience, I heard they're down another, what, couple hundred thousand because the switch to USA from network television, right?
Starting point is 02:09:18 after the debut episode. I think this past Fridays that we just talked about, they were down a little bit more. In the 1.4 range. They're probably going to have given up about 500,000 people with the switch from cable to broadcast. Is that what you're hearing? That's what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 02:09:37 And, you know, I don't think it was reasonable to expect the 1.7 they got last week for the first episode would be week two. I don't know if they expected this kind of drop. It doesn't sound bad to me if they'd have gone to 900,000. That would have been... This is kind of where I thought they would end up in this range. And, you know, we'll see as things heat up for certain times of the year, how that increases.
Starting point is 02:10:01 Also, with less wrestling on the USA Network next year, will that do anything to affect this number? And with Raw going to Netflix, it's going to be a whole new kind of number we're looking at. Yeah, but, you know, right now, again, if they did 1.7... last week and one point, high 1.4 or whatever, almost 1.5 this week, the second week, if they drop again to 1.3 or 1.2 the next week, then I might start worrying a bit if it doesn't immediately snap back because I think the people now have figured out it's moved. Because they did a lot of publicity in that hot first show. They got most of the audience that they had on network.
Starting point is 02:10:44 And Fox actually let them say it on the air. Yeah. So now it just depends on how many, you know, fewer people overall that would watch it don't have USA or whatever anymore. But they're going to have plenty of options of places to watch the WWE, Netflix, CW and USA and the fillings in your teeth. Everything will pick these programs up. But the main thing is, Brian, if you don't know where to watch them, you're not going to be able to see them. So that means that all of us good wrestling fans, we should get on the telephone and call somebody and tell them where they can see the smack being layeth-downeth and the raw being rubbed raw,
Starting point is 02:11:37 all the changes and everything. Call your friends. You know, it can be done almost for free now, phone calls. Really? almost for free you say almost for free well you got to pay to have the phone but you don't have to pay per call anymore you don't have to drop a quarter in the pay phone or you don't have to pay long distance charges now did you know that are you aware of that they've done away with long distance i was amazed when i heard about that last week last week well i have heard i have that and a babba bye blah blah i've heard that
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Starting point is 02:17:50 The mothership. All right, well, let's hit a few high points of raw, for heaven's sake. You want to get high? Well, no, Talley. Ontario, California has a lot of nerve, taking Ontario Canada's name and being abbreviated, almost exactly the same way. You know, a lot of people,
Starting point is 02:18:15 any old days before they had GPS, a lot of people would have gone to Canada to make this shot. You realize that, don't you? When they say void in Ontario, I'm always confused. Well, and if this had been the Vince McMahon era, they were still said,
Starting point is 02:18:31 we're in Los Angeles, or we're in Hollywood, or we're in Beverly Hills or something, they wouldn't have said Ontario. But I guess they got big arenas out there everywhere now. this thing did they tell us that the show was going to become two hours for a while when is that going to happen
Starting point is 02:18:54 yeah we did hear that i think it's coming up soon for the remainder of their run on USA at least soon I don't know when soon you know and like I would have watched the second match and we'll get to it in a second but it's a three hour fucking show people I've got a life I have things that I have to do such as breathing and bathing every once in a while
Starting point is 02:19:17 and it just gets, it's so long, it's so long. But, what a start to the fucking thing. You're making me a Liv Morgan fan. I still don't ever want to see her wrestle, but that nails on a chalkboard, chalk chalkboard. That's what I'm trying to say,
Starting point is 02:19:35 the chalkboard. Yeah, that thing. Nails on the chalkboard voice, the just the this whole thing is so childish but yet fascinating because Ria Ripley's involved and Liv and Dominic are these two fucking annoying
Starting point is 02:19:53 heel fucking idiots that you know yeah it shouldn't be any good but it is is that what I'm trying to say I don't know why it shouldn't be any good it's been great
Starting point is 02:20:09 from the moment they put her with Dominic Mysterio. It's been working, and I think they're really good at this. Well, when she speaks, my ears bleed, as I've mentioned about lovely live, but these two come out, live and Dom, and they cut, and by the way, they come in in the lowrider and they walk through the back,
Starting point is 02:20:28 and Bronson Reed and Brown Strongman or fight past them. More on that in a moment from last week and this week. But they did, and then they, a bunch of people run after them. And then Dominic and Liv walk straight into the arena and do the entrance. Again, the camera work and the timing and the shot blocking. It's insane these days.
Starting point is 02:20:52 And all Liv has to do is come out there and whine like that and say that from Ria, she took the women's title, she took Judgment Day, and she took the most gorgeous man in the world, Dominic Mysterio. and then Ria's music plays and out she comes and she's super over and she looks like a fucking superstar and she said don't worry Liv I'm not going to hit you but I just want to tell you
Starting point is 02:21:24 and Mommy Chance start and Dominic starts to step up and she tells him to get out of the fucking way and live to cuts the promo I'm going to beat you because I'm smarter than you are because I've been beating your knee up and you're going to have to say that you're not cleared and blah blah blah and Maria says well I came out here to tell you
Starting point is 02:21:46 my knee is good and I am cleared and by the way Dominic you're going to be there when I take my women's title back high above the ring and a shark cage a shark cage I don't know with her with her accent it sounded like a shark cage. And he was going to be shit in his pants.
Starting point is 02:22:10 But then old Wade Barrett, I believe, cleared it up. A shark cage. Why can't they just say hanging over the ring in a small cage? It might be easier for to say. Because sharks hadn't come up. At least on AEW one time it was Shark Week, right? I think so, yeah, because they've done that a few times, Shark Week. So people weren't thinking of sharks.
Starting point is 02:22:33 but nevertheless. The people like that and then and Enria Ripley said and by the way, what I said before, I take it back and she head butts live
Starting point is 02:22:44 and knocks her out. That looked good. Yes, it did. And Liv sold it good. Yes, she did. Everything here was good. Yes, it was. You are correct, sir.
Starting point is 02:22:58 Yes, sir. See, now I'm Ed McMahon. It's all downhill from here. I don't know where else to do. It's all downhill from here, But no, but it was a great promo. Again, Ria Ripley is not the biggest female star in the business. She's one of the biggest stars in the business, period.
Starting point is 02:23:14 And Dominic still has kept his heat, and they're mad at live because she's the shrewish little mean girl that is, you know, messing with Ria. So anyway, we started off good. You know, it's interesting to stop for a second and just talk about something we talked about years ago. When Dominic Mysterio was first being used as a wrestler, as a smiling baby face with his dad, when Ray Mysterio's contract was coming up, and he had to decide WWE or AEW, and part of the discussion was, you know, where's Dominic going to go with his dad?
Starting point is 02:23:53 And we looked at Dominic against, not against, but compared him to a hook in terms of where they were at the same time at one time, and Sammy Gavar maybe, too. look at the job Dominic Mysterio has done in WWE to become a heel he's kind of like Michael Hayes he may not be you know buddy Rogers in the ring but he knows how to be a heel yes and he works like he looks
Starting point is 02:24:19 and he presents himself like he looks what we've said before these guys and on the other side they've concocted in their heads how they want to come off but they don't look like it and he looks like a chicken shit dip shit that gets heat like this. And that's why he's a bigger star than anybody they've got. It's just, it's understanding what you can.
Starting point is 02:24:48 If he had gone to AEDW. What you can do on purpose to make work for you. Yeah, go ahead. If he had gone to AEW, if Ray Mysterio had signed with AEW and Dominic had gone there with him, just think of how different the career trajectory would have been. if he had been on dynamite every week instead of having his character develop over the last few years.
Starting point is 02:25:08 His career trajectory on dynamite would have looked like Wall Street in October of 29. But anyway... What do you think of them booking the match? Just one last thing on this. Lib versus Ria with Dominic in a shark cage above the ring.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Well, I like that because he can be up there making scared faces and trying to yell down advice. to live when she needs it that she can't hear because people are screaming because he's trying to talk. They won't, I mean, they'll still have a match, but they won't really need to. It's fucking, it's gold there,
Starting point is 02:25:44 and he's a sitting duck if Ria wants to fuck with him. What's he going to throw down, right? You have to throw something down if you're in a cage above the ring. Well, you don't always. You don't always. It depends on how long they want to keep this going. But, you know, potentially, what kind of foreign objects does live use?
Starting point is 02:26:04 I mean, I'm not trying to ask in a filthy type of way. I don't think she's established any specific. Like, she doesn't have a sledgehammer or nothing. Well, in that case, then, you know, maybe he can slip down some type of marital age he keeps in her purse. I don't know. And then you just go that direction anyway. Yeah, well, anyway, I'm moving along here now, though, because the next match was a point I want to make real quick. it was Sammy Zane
Starting point is 02:26:30 versus Ludwig Kaiser and I would have liked to have watched this but it still we're 15 minutes into a three hour show and I don't know what the fuck's guy I'm trying to hit the high points and get the major news right
Starting point is 02:26:50 but both those guys are good and Kaiser has really been fantastic lately and they had a good match and the fans loved it and Sammy hit the kick and got the big pop one, two, three. And so that that was, and then Gunther comes out and again teases, giving Sammy a world title shot right there in River City or whatever, and then, you know, the way he twisted around, but no.
Starting point is 02:27:19 But they did something, what was it last week or two weeks ago, that we skipped over. I think that was either when I had poisoned myself or it was my birthday or something happened or all of the above or all of the above but they did a segment with Sammy and Gunther and Brett
Starting point is 02:27:40 Hart when they were in Calgary and that ties into this because they've been doing the deal where Sammy wants a world title match and Gunther keeps teasing him that he's finally going to give it to everything but no but new and they worked that into a deal where in Calgary they brought Brett out
Starting point is 02:28:00 and then Gunther came out and confronted him and one of the greatest lines ever and Gunther has that dried delivery he's a fucking German stand-up comic if he wants to be Austrian whatever
Starting point is 02:28:14 same part of the world but he said he put bread over and how great he was and he did this and he did that he said Brett Hart, I think you're great. You're only second only to my all-time favorite wrestler, Bill Goldberg. You know what? The real tribute was that he didn't just say Goldberg.
Starting point is 02:28:36 He said Bill Goldberg. Yeah, Bill Goldberg, yes. But the point is, when Sammy came out and then, you know, was defending Brett in terms of, you know, verbally, he hadn't attacked Brett or anything, but he's defending him verbally. and then Sammy and Gunther got in a fight. Here's the point I'm making between what they did here and what they're doing with Sammy and Gunther and etc.
Starting point is 02:29:03 Sammy Zane for quite a few years there when they were indie rific darlings old El Generico was the sidekick of Kevin Steen who was the fat loud mouth that always had something to say. And that's where they were in the pecking order in the minds of
Starting point is 02:29:22 the indie wrestling fans. I think Sammy Zane is more important to the WWE than Kevin Owens is right now. I think longer term he's got more upside. The people like him in a more genuine way rather than just cheering because he cannonballs his fat ass into people's faces. And he can, at this point,
Starting point is 02:29:48 I think his promos are better, he's more motivated. Who would tell me, in 2012. Which one is a better promo, Kevin Steen or El Generico? It's obviously Sammy Zane. Sammy Zane's the best every man in wrestling. Yes.
Starting point is 02:30:04 He pulls it off better than anyone else. And he tries to me, watching as a viewer, he tries harder to do the best he can with material he's given than Steen does two to one. So I think he's more valuable. to the company, then Steen is, and if they're going to give him
Starting point is 02:30:29 him too many pronouns, pal, if we're going to give Steen millions of dollars to go play with his former friends or his current friends, former co-workers, then I don't think that the WWE is going to suffer that big of a loss with all the other names they get on the roster, but Sammy fills a spot. It would be hard to fill is what I'm saying. I agree.
Starting point is 02:30:55 Plus, if Sammy ever turned heel, if done right, it could be massive still. Oh, good heavens. If Owens turns, he's just turned again. Owens doesn't turn as much as he molds. Anyway, so then, by the time that Gunther had turned down, giving Sammy a match,
Starting point is 02:31:15 we were 40 minutes into the show. We got Carlito and Dragon Lee. Dragon Lee won in a few minutes they must have been running late was something that I don't know if it was fucked up or not I couldn't tell Did you see Ms. and Cross had a heartfelt conversation in a room filled with reproductions
Starting point is 02:31:35 of old vintage wrestling posters that had been put on a color X-Rox machine and tape to the wall with duct tape? What the fuck was that about? I don't know because I think the previous segment drove me off to take a break because I didn't see that and I didn't see this. Well, they actually,
Starting point is 02:31:50 It was old Atlanta ringsider program covers that I remember seeing that looked like they were X-Roxed and stuck up with tape. And then an old Carolina's poster from the 70s that was also stuck up with tape in Ms's room. He's noted for being a student of the classics. Anyway, at 9 o'clock, we were ready to see the Ms. versus Bronson Reed. and of course earlier in the night they had done the deal where when Liz
Starting point is 02:32:26 or Liz Liv and Dominic were coming in the arena Bronson Reed and Brown Strongman had fought right past him and threw a knock over
Starting point is 02:32:36 a bunch of shit and continued on because they got in a big fight last week on the program and just went back and forth just hitting each other with shit
Starting point is 02:32:49 and big moves and throwing security away and doing the whole nine yards. And, Ada, you seemed a little gleeful about it when I talked to you earlier about the backstage and through the arena fighting of the two behemus. These two giant guys and giant in different ways, so they look different out there, fighting, starting with the brawl in the parking lot and the splash of the car. And then last week, they went through a fake wall and it looked a lot better than the AEW fake walls. Well, yes. And just chaos, just people
Starting point is 02:33:22 running around after them and there's something about it that I like and I'm actually looking forward to the match next week. Well, yeah, the They've got a good job of building up this match. The wall last week it was dry wall,
Starting point is 02:33:39 but at least they went to the effort of putting some studs into the goddamn thing above where they crashed through. There was still no stud for a six foot fucking period in a goddamn wall but they had studs above it you could actually see and it was a wall at a place that
Starting point is 02:33:54 needed to have a wall right so they went the extra mile but that's what they did last week and then they did the homage to Kevin Sullivan and Blackjack Mulligan who fought out the back door of the Eddie Graham sports stadium in Orlando that one week and the next week during the first
Starting point is 02:34:12 match fought in the front door wearing the same shit and now there's basically they're telling the story they're still going to fight because Ms. gets in the ring and Bronson Reed tries to make his entrance and old Brown attacks him in the
Starting point is 02:34:27 Owlway. And then they just go back and forth and they start running, it's so preposterous that I actually kind of got entertained also. They start running the security guys in and what did they
Starting point is 02:34:43 have 12 or 14 security guys out there? And one of them will beat up or choke slam two or three and the other one will top rope or whatever two or three and then they'll fight for a second then they'll turn around and both together they'll beat up another dozen security guards
Starting point is 02:34:59 at one point brown strong man drop kicked Bronson Reed in the upper thigh did you see that flying drop kick I did he's a big man I liked last weeks I think better that this one was a little
Starting point is 02:35:16 preposterous because now it's becoming a contest between bless their little peepick and hearts these security guys. Their local indie wrestlers, obviously. But it's becoming a bump-taking contest as to who can take the most even over-exaggerated bump for one of the monsters and the most action comes out of
Starting point is 02:35:39 the security guard, Ned Flanders from Springfield, who you never heard of before, it'll never see again. are you really want to see them have another fucking match? I want to say, I think the fans are going to be all amped up too for that match. Let's see. They need to be. As a matter of fact, that's what they need to do.
Starting point is 02:36:00 At the front door, when the fans are entering the arena, they need to pass out a baggie full of fucking meth to each one of them. To get them amped up to see that match. They've had running security guards. They've had parking lot rolls and destroyed roofs of cars. They've had walls that got destroyed. They had turnduckles, off because of just a mass force of being.
Starting point is 02:36:23 The mass force of being, the centrifugal fucking mass and girth of them. Contributing to the gravitational factor of the centrifugal X. And it's also the look of it. Like, I don't know. It brawn, not brawn. There's a lot of bronze and broncens. And it's a lot of everyone with the same name all of a sudden. Bronson Reed, if he was like six, five.
Starting point is 02:36:48 I probably wouldn't be as interested. But because he is a big guy, but he looks different than Braun Stromen was a classic, I'm going to just inject this, whatever it is, kind of big guy. I kind of like the way it looks. You're saying it's got to be a bowling ball against a fucking meathead. I'm saying we've seen a lot of meathead versus meathead. It's a nice change of pace. It's a nice change of pace.
Starting point is 02:37:15 That's a meathead versus a fat ass is what you're saying. Meathead versus meatball. All righty then, nevertheless. Are you looking forward to it now? No, no, I'm not. Come on, come on, you are. Because it's, it's just, it's a, they're just doing stunts at this point. And it, but it, trying to have a match in the ring.
Starting point is 02:37:35 What's a monster last monster standing match. So I'm sure they'll go through the arena again. Yeah, er, monster. Uh, does Bronn? They did the mash. They did the monster match. I was going to say Bronn, but that's Bronbroker. Bronson Reed, that's his name.
Starting point is 02:37:51 Uh-huh. He has to go over, right? I'd love him to. I really would. I mean, the whole thing is about teasing Rollins's return. Rollins just got pushed on the field at the NFL game over the weekend, so he's obviously getting close to return, I would think. I thought he fell accidentally.
Starting point is 02:38:07 Well, nevertheless, uh-oh. You hear that thunder? We better pick up the pace here. I might not be on the air much longer. Mother Nature is moving in. All right. McIntyre. Do you hear that rain right now?
Starting point is 02:38:23 I did not hear it. I thought that was a dramatic pause. I didn't realize it was a dramatic pause with rain. No, I said Drew McIntyre, and then suddenly it was like rain on a tin roof suddenly. Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain, telling me just what a fool I did. No one needs this. Drew McIntyre did a promo, and they actually had some restraint on this three-hour program. he came out with a game face on, he recounted what punk said last week about how I'm prepared
Starting point is 02:38:55 for this to be the end of seeing him punk and, you know, he's going to make Drew McIntyre bleed to whole nine yards, and Drew said that he wasn't happy about going into the hell in a cell either. That everybody in punk's family had begged him not to do it. Well, everybody in his family had begged him not to do it. but it doesn't matter what anybody thinks it's going to happen and Drew says
Starting point is 02:39:21 I promise I'm going to make you bleed a lot now they're setting expectations here I'm going to make you suffer pain I'm going to break you permanently into hell in a cell it wasn't a long
Starting point is 02:39:36 drawn out thing it wasn't Hollywood scripted where he had to tell some analogy or some old chestnut be tied into a learning experience or whatever, he came out like Punk did. And he was serious and he cut a fucking promo. He said, I'm going to fuck this guy up.
Starting point is 02:39:56 And he left. I like that. Yes. I liked it too. You're waiting for the segment dealing with Punk and McIntyre. This is the only thing that really was. Well, because what else do they need to do at this point? The time, as Lucy says,
Starting point is 02:40:16 to Ricky Ricardo, the time has come. You know, the matches at hand, they can't go back and forth. It's made already. If anything they do physically at this point is detrimental rather than beneficial. So, Punk got his statement. Now Drew's had his statement. Everybody's still interested, and they want to see what's going to happen. And so it's also refreshing not to have, even how.
Starting point is 02:40:46 However good Drew has been another one of these 20-minute interview segments in this long show. You know, Brian, this show was so long. About two-thirds of the way through, I realized I needed a good close shave again. I had grown a beard in the first part of this program. Has that ever happened to you? Mid-program? No. No. Wolfman. I don't know how that happened to you. You've never just realized when you leaned your...
Starting point is 02:41:16 hand over on your chin that you'd grown a beard waiting for this program to be over and you had to make your face slick again? Mid show? Mid show! I didn't desire a slick face in the middle of the show, no. Oh, well, you never know where that face is going to go pretty soon, folks. I'll tell you what, if you suddenly need a slick face to stick somewhere that doesn't want to have anything to do with stubble and old prickly whiskers on your coal-mining looking face,
Starting point is 02:41:46 then you better hope that you're on a first-name basis with our friend Harry. Because if you don't know Harry, well, then you won't be wild about Harry like we are, because we're just wild about Harry. Harry makes or causes to be made the best old razors at the cheapest prices that you're ever going to have. It will give you the closest shave from your sideburns all the way down your cheeks, into your knuckle area, and back around to the other side. again plus up above your lips and underneath your nose and that little dented place in the middle all of that place on you from now on is going to belong to harry you're going to call harry your daddy
Starting point is 02:42:29 oh daddy harry shave me baby you know what it could just be a relationship where you get your great razors from harry's well yes and none of this is required and well you're going to have to show the proper amount of respect don't look harry in the eye here's a another thing, folks, a lot of these trial sets where the people say well, we'll give you a trial kit and you tried our razor and our blades and our shaving gel
Starting point is 02:42:56 and et cetera, they cost up to $13. Well, that's the same thing that Harry's trial kit costs unless you know somebody who knows Harry and I know Harry. And if you know Harry like I know Harry, you'll know if you go to harries.com
Starting point is 02:43:12 slash JCE you're going to get a $13 trial set for just $3. That won't even buy you one of these incredible German-engineered five-blade cartridges in a regular old grocery store or possibly a dry goods place or someone who's a jack of all trades and sells used merchandise that's falling off a truck. You're not going to get that kind of deal anywhere except at harries.com. the razor, the weighted ergonomically designed handle, the foaming shave gel, and a travel cover
Starting point is 02:43:51 so you don't slice your fingertips for just $3 at harries.com slash jCE, and then you can sign up for a convenient subscription option. If you like it, they'll send it to you all the time. You don't have to go outside in the cold, cruel world, or the horrible driving rainstorm. that has enveloped my home now. Instead, they'll bring them right to your door, and as a matter of fact, if you tip the mailman extra, he'll probably go ahead and stick them in your pocket for you. While you're looking out to make sure that nobody knows you got them,
Starting point is 02:44:28 because they'll try to steal them from you. People try to shoplift these hairy five-blade German-engineered cartridges right out of people's pockets. It's in the news everywhere. This has nothing to do with a... They ate this guy's dog the other day. they ate this guy's dog and then they picked his pockets for his German engineer and Harry's blades. Once again, let's let everyone know how they can get their Harry's. Well, you can get your jollies
Starting point is 02:44:55 one way or another, but you can only get your Harry's by going to harries.com slash JCE. Get this trial set for $3 and then make your own decision. You're a grown adult. We're not telling you what to do or not do with the hair on your own face. But somebody ought to tell you, want to do about it. Because it's obviously not something you're keeping track of on your own. Disgusting, disgusting looking fucking people have to clean yourselves up. With Harry's. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:28 And then once you take that hair, you can save it. When you dry it out, you can make little crafts things with it. Remember that little kid's toy where you took the magnetic pencil and you put the little magnetic shavings and made him like a must. a mustache and a beard and comedy sideburns. I used to try to give him crotch hair, but there was no magnet there in that area. Then we showed his face. He didn't have any pubic hair.
Starting point is 02:45:55 Well, I was trying to give him some down there, but they didn't have a magnet down there. There was no down there. It was just the face, wasn't it? Shoulders maybe? Well, yeah, well, I added it down there on with cardboard. You're the deluxe edition of the magnetic naked man, whatever you're talking about. See, with a marker and some cardboard. word, you can make his whole magnetic body.
Starting point is 02:46:16 Luckily, you don't have to think about any of this with Harry's one last time, Jim. What's that promo code for the best raisers you can get? Harries.com slash J-C-E. Well, let's, uh... Yeah, well, let's... Raw is rolling on. They had a girls tag team match. Can I say something?
Starting point is 02:46:38 Yes. Because you asked a few weeks ago. This Joe Tessatori, if I am now pronouncing... He's growing on me. He's growing on me, although at times he sounds downright somber. When they come back to the commercial sometimes, it sounds like he's at a funeral. See, I mentioned he's growing on me with his excitement level, but he is still, he's, he's going, he's running the gamut of emotions.
Starting point is 02:47:03 He's running the gamut of emotions from the thrill of victory to the agony of defeat. He seems to have come into this with an eye toward being a performative. type of announcing fellow. So, but he's growing on me. Yo, and here's nothing, here's what's not growing on me. They have Pierce book, Brown Strongman and Bronson Reed next week in the last monster standing match.
Starting point is 02:47:32 And then you hear people fighting and grunting. And they run over with the camera to the, and there's Butch beating up Seamus with a cricket bat. What did I just say? See? Everybody's No, everybody's beating up everybody in the back to the point where
Starting point is 02:47:49 when it is supposed to mean something, why does it mean anything? It's like, oh, there's the popcorn guys. One's got his fucking axe handle shoved up another guy's ass. Here's a question. Do you think they're going somewhere with this? The idea that Nick Aldus has a nice and tidy smackdown
Starting point is 02:48:06 and on Raw, this just brawls breaking out all over the place and Pierce has no control. Well, he might not have a, nice and tidy Smackdown. We need somebody to do an analysis. Is it more dangerous to be in the locker room in Raw or on Smackdown? Definitely Raw. Well, there's three hours, though.
Starting point is 02:48:26 How many locker room fights per hour is the average? That's a more fair way to look at it. And we can only be looking at it from the period of time they were both general managers. Yes, because otherwise it wouldn't be fair, because the other general managers weren't as strict possibly as these people. And then they had a girls tag team match. And then they played the tape of Cody and Roman filming their heist movie in Atlanta.
Starting point is 02:48:57 And then they had the tag team match between the New Day and the Creed's. I will just say this. Have you seen now what I'm talking about with the Creed's that they do not, they may be excellent athletes. They may be wonderful, competitive amateur wrestlers. They may be dedicated young men who both use their left and right turn indicator
Starting point is 02:49:23 and say yes, sir, and no, sir, to the coaches. But I cannot see any way in the world that they have been lifelong or even moderately long time wrestling fans because of the fact that if they're that great athletes, They don't know how this shit is supposed to look. And it's awkward, and sometimes these things just don't work. We won't give up on them just yet. But between those nerdy, hatchet-headed fucking blank faces they've got,
Starting point is 02:50:03 and the fact that everything they do in a pro wrestling ring looks awkward in terms of how a pro wrestler would do it, what are you seeing? Are you seeing anything? Everybody else, oh, the creeds are great. I haven't been terribly impressed. At least they have nice outfits now, very patriotic, red, white, and blue. Ivy Nile interests me because you can't look at her and figure out her age. What?
Starting point is 02:50:30 You look at her, you're like, she could be 40. She could be 30. She could be 35. You can't figure it out. Well, just Google it. I don't want to. I like the mystery. That's the point.
Starting point is 02:50:41 No, right now. She's not 40. I bet you she's not 30. Really? I bet you, I bet you, I bet you she's 26 years old. 32.
Starting point is 02:50:52 What? 32 from Knoxville. Well, you can't believe anything on Google, can you? All right, anyway, the main event time had come for Raw, as it does for us all. And I didn't think
Starting point is 02:51:09 I was going to like this match, but I didn't think it was going to depress me, at the end. They'd been milking it all night. Jay Uso versus Bronbreaker for the Intercontinental Title and they did the Jay Uso entrance through the arena. Okay, I've got a lot of least favorites in AEW, but I'm now officially declaring
Starting point is 02:51:36 Jay Uso is my least favorite top guy gimmick in wrestling. It's all over, but I hate it. I hate yeat. I hate that fucking Ringling Brothers' outfit he's wearing with yeat on his arms and flower petals on his legs and fluorescent blue all over. I hate his work, which has gone to hell, because of his hot doggery, which is not only over the top, but also it seems to me
Starting point is 02:52:13 to be hard to work with because of the timing of his hot dog or he is just a step behind the beat or maybe a musician would know better, a step off, whatever. I don't like any of this. Am I over exaggerating any of these cases? Well, you're consistent.
Starting point is 02:52:35 You have been pretty open about your not liking any of the Jay Uso stuff for quite a while. and obviously if there was any match that was going to trigger you, it would be this match, notwithstanding it. I mean, it was a good match. I could see why the finish would trigger you. Well, but I'm talking about,
Starting point is 02:52:52 am I overstating the case on Jay Uso? Yes, I'm admitting he's over. The people like it. They like the entrance. They like the yeat. Blah, blah, blah, blah. But his work, bleh, his look, the outfit, bled, the...
Starting point is 02:53:10 And then I'm watching this. It looked to me like Braun Breaker was the veteran heel trying to lead a green baby face through the heat. The way that Braun sells makes Jay's kind of weak shit look better. And when Braun was in control with the heat and methodically picking him apart, it was slow, but then they'd have a burst. But he's got a great heel attitude and heel aggression. and he's got the athletic moves that he does. And, you know, Uso is not selling like Riggie Morton,
Starting point is 02:53:49 he's selling, but he's not setting, you know, a standard of like, wow, look how good that fucking guy is for his short time in a business. They've been doing it as 15 years now, right?
Starting point is 02:54:03 So, Braun is the, he's a better-looking athlete, he's a better worker, he's got the better personality and yes I know one's a heel one's a baby face I'm saying in terms of anything I'm looking for at a money drawing
Starting point is 02:54:20 athlete in a wrestling business brawn has more of it than Uso except Uso's been put in the bloodline spot which is what propelled him to be over on his own and when he when Uso makes a come back, it's with rotten punches that the big stud like Braun
Starting point is 02:54:42 has to sell and that bogus yeat shit. Where you got to stand there interminably while he does his dipsy doodling and hits you again. And boy, now all the guys today know how it felt when they had to stand there for Dusty's flip-flop and fly.
Starting point is 02:55:02 But I mean, that was the thing. Uso barely hit a Samoan drop at one point where he didn't really have control of Braun and they just went down and then Braun outshined him with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, breakinsteiner off the top. And then they, they traded big two counts. The people were into it. But finally, Brawn had speared him on the floor at one point. He went to do it again and ran into a super kick and then Uso speared him through the barricade and then threw him in the
Starting point is 02:55:37 ring and speared him there and then splashed him off the top one, two, three. So now Jay Uso is the new Intercontinental title or champion, and Braun Breaker only had it like two months. And yes, I know he's got a long way to go and they're, I'm sure they're prepared for this moment with what to do with him next, but everybody popped and loved the finish. I did not share the enthusiasm. Big pop, massive pop. Huge pop.
Starting point is 02:56:10 I don't... Jay Uso is possibly the biggest tribute to modern WWB booking that even he is that over. Because if he hadn't been in this bloodline thing, just the work or the look or the promos, it's like fucking our truth kind of underneath comedy filler in the back pre-taped.
Starting point is 02:56:35 shit. Well, you know, there's always a guy and they come in different forms that get over with the people and it doesn't match the work. You know, from the Ultimate Warrior to maybe to some of us who were first exposed to Jimmy Valiant when he was the Boogie Wogie Man, you know, not early Boogie Wogie Man, but late Boogie Wogie Man. You know, there are certain guys you can't explain it. They have a connection. Obviously, he's peeking right now with it. I wish I didn't have to peek The idea of beating Braun Breaker right now was one of the big surprising things I guess
Starting point is 02:57:11 That was, you know I don't know why that they needed to beat Braun at that point And I wish if they were given Jay another big win And just don't beat fucking Bronn But and also I'm not looking forward to Think about this The Intercond title's now gone from
Starting point is 02:57:31 Goonther ended up with Braun Breaker at least you could count on wow matches with Gunther and a wow performance with really good matches from Braun now you get the intercontinental title is Jay Uso
Starting point is 02:57:46 and Sammy had it too well but I'm you know Sammy yes he was a great worker also but I'm talking about new young guy you got Gunther can really go you got Braun it can really go You got Jius.
Starting point is 02:58:03 We're not going to be looking forward to those matches. Well, we'll see how many of those matches they are. There are, not they are. Well, hello, my phone is going up. These goddamn politicians keep spamming me. These goddamn politicians. How'd they get your number? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:58:21 Did you go around passing around your business card again, telling them they ought to advertise on the Arcadian Vanguard network? We'll see. We could just move on with the show now. What was next on SmackDown? Well, that wasn't Smackdown. That was raw and that was it. That was all she wrote, as Mama Cornett used to say.
Starting point is 02:58:41 That was the end of the show. Do you think with Jay Uso, there's a touch of that? He deserves it because he's been here a very long time and never held a singles title, so we got to do this? Boy, you know, if it was an OVW and I'd say, yeah, I'd guys been a really good student and maybe we ought to reward him or whatever, but no, at this level, at this fucking level of money and television and viewership
Starting point is 02:59:07 and what, fuck him and is what he deserves. Jeez, you really do hate him, though. Well, no, for anybody, I wouldn't put it at that level, I wouldn't put a belt on anybody just because, oh, they've been around and they haven't had it, they deserve it. They mean, good guys, no, fuck that. Jesus Christ, no, you don't do that. At the local cable access level, that's a wonderful,
Starting point is 02:59:33 thing to do, but not at that level. Well, that level was WWRWA. Well, would you like me to tell you something on the level? Please. I'm out of things to talk about. Should we close it up so we can go watch some Vince McMahon documentary and come back and talk more about this heinous individual that we're going to have to watch six hours of deep, dark mysteries on?
Starting point is 02:59:58 Real quick, before we go, survey, quick survey between us. Yes. Do you think this is going to take them the task, or do you think this is going to be too light on them? From everything that I am, the feeling I'm getting from everything that I'm hearing, people say, I don't think this is going to be very easy on old Vince. And we've heard people say it's a burial, maybe that was to, you know, get expectations up or, you know, stir up the pot. but now Vince is already coming out well
Starting point is 03:00:33 the editing and oh I think they're going to be stiff with Uncle Vince You know we're focusing on the sexual It's not sexual harassment sexual trafficking and all these issues with Vince The component of that But even just the business stuff I give it's a real documentary
Starting point is 03:00:52 looking at things the good and the bed do you talk about the shit he did in the 80s Are they going to talk about how he fucked over Crockett promotions Well see I think that that's stuff that he would actually, in his mind, be proud of. And maybe he'll, you know, phrase it, it's a do-or-die-business, or if I hadn't done it to them, they'd have done it to me, or, you know, whatever. But he would like that stuff known about him that he was a ruthless businessman.
Starting point is 03:01:21 If you get a billion dollars unless you inherit it or you get it all at one time, you have to be a fucking asshole. because who that would have $100 million would goddamn put up with the grief it would take to get to the billion. Only somebody that wanted to be ruthless and win everything. So I think Vince would consider that a compliment. I'm not ruthless and I'd like a billion dollars, but I also want to develop different things like hologram Marx Brothers and stuff. Well, yeah, also you say you'd like a billion dollars, but you ain't got it yet. I'm trying. I'm trying.
Starting point is 03:01:57 You might decide that before you get there that it ain't worth the goddamn aggravation. I'm hoping I may trip in front of Tony Kahn's motorcade and then I get sued. The point I'm making to you, Brian, last, if you would let me, the point I'm making to you is that I believe this will be awful stiff on old Vince to coin some type of a phrase. I don't think they're going to treat him nice at all. Do you think there'll be ominous music? Oh, there's got to be ominous music. There's ominous music and everything.
Starting point is 03:02:31 Do you think we'll hear about other accusers? Other than Janelle Grant? By what, by name that word none has existed before? By name or? It has some type of revelation. I don't think. Any details that aren't publicly available already about any of his accusations or any of the accusations against them.
Starting point is 03:02:52 Well, or the things that he said about other people. there may be some things that we don't know about some cases that we know generics about, this NDA or that NDA, but I don't think they're going to out anybody's identity that is not already known. But we may be able to figure out a couple of people that might either not be as loyal to Vince or might not be as against Vince as we thought they were based on what they might say in this thing. that might be fun to figure out but overall
Starting point is 03:03:28 I think it's going to be six hours of this is one of the weirder fucking guys that ever walked the planet and we just got to figure out which parts they focus on well we will focus on it on the drive-thru yes we will and that's your program
Starting point is 03:03:44 and since you're sick there's no reason for me to keep you any longer four hours is enough so thank you very much for stopping by and everybody else thank you very much much for listening, and we'll do more of this, but even better next time, we promise. Until then, thank you, fuck you. Bye-bye, everybody.

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