Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 553: Jim Reviews Bad Blood

Episode Date: October 13, 2024

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews WWE Bad Blood! Plus Jim talks about AEW's talent pay, Dave Meltzer's 1984 comments, the best french fries, WWE Smackdown, the Jacksonville Jaguars and much more!  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornett. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag deep art. So to the Jim Cornett experience. Today we're going to talk about bad blood, the good, the bad and the ugly. Plus we're also going to talk about some people that may need a blood test. And joining me for all this and so much more.

Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line The King of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network Mr. Co-host to you He's the Neil Sadaka of podcasting and baby Sadaka's back. The great Brian Last everybody. Aloha, Jim. A pleasure to be here once again. I sound like shit, so maybe I am Neil Sedaka today.

I would have preferred Paul Anka. But anyway, it's a pleasure to be here once again for so much fun. Yes, you sound like you're going to peter out in the next, uh, Ten minutes or so, but hey, I'll tell you're my podcast co-host, Peter Out or Peter in. There's no two ways about it. We're going to get through that.

You're not even old enough, by the way, to have experienced in real-time Sadaka's back. Do you think, did the kids... Do the kids even remember Neil Sedaka? They may know a few of his songs because, like, Calendar Girl was used for a movie. And other songs have been used for movies. movies. Every day of the week. How about?

I always thought he was really, really corny, and I couldn't, I've never been a fan of Neil Sedaka. Well, that's the thing. Kids, I encourage you out there in Google Land, get on your contabulators and your various devices, and look up a picture of Neil Sadaka. It's S-E-D-A-K-A-A in 1975. And then you had Erasmith, you had Zeppelin, you had to start. You had every goddamn classic rock band in the world,

and this motherfucker comes back from nowhere, and is on top of the charts for about, what, three months, I don't know, maybe six. And it had two hits, and the reason he had had all these hits in the early 60s, and he was a fucking nerd, right? He was just, I mean, I can't even explain it to people who haven't seen him. That's why I encourage you to Google a picture. and then the Beatles and Beatlemania and rock and roll British invasion everything happened and people stopped looking like and sounding like Neil Sedaka and he was fucking

nowhere'sville man until 1975 and who is a fan of Neil do you remember who was also on the bad blood recording Brian no Elton John oh really Elton John Elton John was a fan of Neil Sedaka and Sadaka, I think, wrote the song and somehow or another. Maybe he was taking out Elton John's trash. I don't know by that point in time. And Elton says, well, I'll give the old chap a hand. He said he just like that. Because he's got that accent, you know.

And fucking Elton John was the biggest single act on the charts at the time. So here comes Neil Sedaka. And Sadaka's back. and the album and that and laughter in the rain. Ooh, I hear laughter in the rain, which Elton John wasn't on, but he got by with it anyway.

And then you never heard a goddamn word about Neil Sadaka ever again. He changed his name to Kiki D. And then they had another hit. Well, actually, you know, I was thinking that Kiki, because Kiki was... She was a background singer from England.

Yes, but she was another of Elton John's... a little what a protege is is the word I was searching for no come on I didn't know what words you were searching for

you are a weirdo no you've got you've got your mind in the gut pro I was thinking mentor but that'd be the wrong way around I was trying to say it right

see unlike you it just blurts out the first thing comes out of your ass but Kiki D had been she had been something before and then he brought her back

right with the duet oh I don't know I don't know. Go go break in my heart. Kiki D was fucking hot on Don Kersner's rock concert in 1975. I'll tell you that. But anyway, but Neil Sadat wrote a bunch of songs.

Co wrote a bunch of songs. What's the first name, Greenfield, Sadaka and Greenfield. They wrote, Love Will Keep Us Together for the Captain and Tenil. Yeah, again, another song I'm not really a big fan of. Everything I like in that period of time is everything that, hated that. You don't believe love will keep us together.

It didn't keep the captain to kneel together. They lasted a while. They lasted all the way until she found out about muskrat love and then... She put out a memoir

saying she was miserable as a loveless marriage. She hated him. And then he died. The muskrats were the final straw. Did she say that before he died or after he died? Did it kill him?

No, I think there was a gap. He lived for a few more years. He was back at sea. the captain. I just got a new CD player and one of the first albums I'm going to play because I haven't heard it yet is the Chubby Checker Psychedelic album. Checkered. You know, think about this. Chubby Checker hits big with the twist and then a year later with Let's Twist again. Yes. And various other iterations of the twist and other dances. Who did the peppermint twist? Was that him? That was not him. That was not him. But by like the

mid-70s, when he's on rock concert, or actually he was on the Midnight Specter. Excuse me. He's doing his old hits again. And he's great. They sound great. The fans are into it. But for a little period of time there, he was trying to figure out what do I do next. People aren't really into a twist anymore. So he put out Checkered, his psychedelic album. What does chubby Checker on acid sound like? I don't know if he was on acid. I don't even know if the musicians were on acid. They tried to make it sound. They tried to make it. Well, you don't know. You don't know. I mean, it might, because apparently it didn't sell. No. Well, see?

That's like having a twinkie with no filling. Psychedelic music without the psychedelic drugs. You're talking about Elton John. The coolest thing ever is David Bowie at the height of his powers, elevating Lou Reed and Iggy Pop. There's nothing cooler than that. Iggy Pop was a junkie in the street. Wait.

That's the way you just said that. At the height of his powers, like he was Dr. Strange. When he was the most popular in the charts. Okay. Selling out concerts with Ziggy Stardust. That's a normal way to say it. At the top of his game. That would work too, but at the height of his power,

sounds like he was levitating fans out of the audience with fucking lightning bolts from his hands. Him and his manager had their record label. There was a lot of, there were a lot of things happening at that moment for Ziggy. He played guitar. Poor old Ziggy. Yeah. This is your show and I don't feel good.

Well, boy, you don't feel too good to me either. Buddy Wayne walked in Memphis TV one day, 1980 fucking two. And he looked at me, had that long face on and he's, Jim, I tell you, I just don't know what I'm going to. You know, he sounded like Jerry Clower. I said, I just don't know what I'm going to do. I was just so upset. I said, well, what's happened, buddy? So well, last night at the Spot Show, you know, we run Ripley, Mississippi.

did $2,000. And I had that $2,000 in cash. And I put it in my pocket. And when I got home, I put my hand in my pocket to find that $2,000 and bring it out. And it wasn't there. It was gone. Can you imagine how I felt? And I said, oh, no.

He said, I didn't feel too grand. See what he did there? Maybe it's good that the territories went out of business. It was, everything was funnier when, but. said it. And I'm not, I'm not talking about Buddy Wayne, the father of Nick Wayne and the son of, or the husband of whatever her name is, Mama Wayne. I'm talking about the original Buddy Wayne from Memphis, Buddy Wayne Peel. And that one was also the son-in-law of Moondog Moretti, who's the father of Mama Wayne. Well, where did it, well, then, I thought Moondog Maine was in

there somewhere. No, no, no, no. So Wayne wasn't the main, Wayne wasn't the main, the main, He can be Moondog Wayne. You know, that's another thing. Do you remember Wayne from Classy Motors in Knoxville? I remember Judge Auto Dealer. Well, Judge Otto Dealer was merely the figurehead. He was the, I don't want to say mascot, but he was the man, Judge Auto-O-T-O-T-O-Daler will give you the best deals at Classy Motors down there in West Knoxville.

but the owner. We had no idea who he was. Because a lot of us, when we got Smokey Mountain tapes, people would edit out the commercials. We didn't know who he was. And when he came at in Knoxville at the Super Bowl and gets in the ring and starts cutting his promo, my first thought, and everyone's thought that, you know,

from the fan week, people hadn't seen him. Oh, this is a new manager. This is his debut. We saw New Jack's first promo in front of a live crowd, you know, like this last year. And then when he kept going and going and it was clear that he wasn't introducing anyone he was just selling cars.

I thought it was a manager. Here's Judge Otto Dueler. Oh, who's this guy? But he got a pop from the people from Knoxville because they knew who he was. But the guy that owned the lot and they were sponsor of Smoky Mountain Wrestling. That's why he was in the ring

was a guy named Terry Kinner. And he was this short look. He almost looked like a hillbilly version of that Rod Blagojevich, the Chicago politician. that got in trouble a while back. He had dark hair. I don't know if it was colored artificially or whatever.

And he talked like this. He had the southern accent kind of down like that. But if you called this car lot and asked for the owner, Terry Kenner, then they knew that something was up, something was wrong, because he used the name Wayne. You had to get Terry on the phone, you had to call him, is Wayne there? Yeah, hold on a second. and they would put you through

but if you called up and asked for him by his regular name oh no he's not here would you like to talk to Wayne and we did a fucking commercial out there one time with Buddy Landell I remember that yeah

and they're going to pull this car up and Terry's doing the pitch on it well you know it's a 1989 whatever the fuck it is got cold air that type of thing and then Buddy's going to pull up in this

this car and he's going to talk to Terry out the window, right, or Wayne out the window. And they couldn't get the car to start. And they could get it. And finally it got to start it up. He had a bunch of oil blew out the tailpipe. And, again, buddy tries to get it in gear, but it's a stick shift. And he can't get it in gear.

So what we ended up doing was we put it in neutral and put it to where he could just let off the break and it would roll into the shot. So we covered up that there was no, no engine noise with music in the background. Come on down to classy motors. That's right out of the movie Use Cars. That's amazing. But you know, a local sponsorship.

We're trying to keep the small businesses operating in the, uh, in the great United States. I've got a couple of thank yous before we go in. Can I just do this real quick? Well, you're welcome, yeah. No, I'm not thanking you. I'm thanking other people, and I was trying to be polite

and asking if you mind it if I thank some other people before we continue. So I'll do that anyway. My boys, Brandon and Aidan Measher Schmidt, up in Michigan, they're always in a mess of shit up there. They said, for my birthday, I got it.

I picked up the package late, but they sent me a Mo Howard autobiography updated with notations from his daughter and a naked lady pen. Have you seen those? They had those, I've got one of my fathers from the 1950s, but they still make them apparently.

The naked lady pen. Do you have one of these? No, a friend of mine in second grade brought a bunch into school, and we were showing kids on the playground, and then they yanked him into the principal's office. When we came back from lunch, He was gone for a couple days.

Did they ever see him again? He came back. Oh, okay. But if you wanted to see the naked lady pens, you had to go hang out at his house. Oh, well, that's a shame. But for those of you don't know, the lady, the picture of the lady on the side of the pen, she's wearing a modest black one-piece bathing suit. But if you turn the pin upside down or right side up or whichever the way that it might go,

then suddenly the bathing suit disappears. and she's standing there, starkers, as they say, over across the pond. Hey, you know what I just got since you brought up that one? A naked lady? Shemp. The biography of the three stooges, Shemp Howard, the face of film comedy by Bert Kierns. Bert Kerns did another book. Son of a gun.

I've loved his previous work. No, I didn't know Shimp had a book. It just came at, and of course Shemp's career was beyond just the Stooges. he did a lot of stuff before they drafted him after Curly got sick. Yes, he was a single actor, character actor for much of his career. Start with all the greats. I remember back when I started to do Tony Storm now. Also, I, thank you, I got a box from the Garcia twins.

Who? The Garcia twins. And that's where Stacy said, what, Nikki and Bree? I said, no, Ed and Pedro. Ed and Pedro, the Garcia twins. I can't tell if you're telling the truth or coming up with new character.

I can't tell what's happening. No, no, this is, I'm telling you that the Garcia twins. Ed and Pedro Garcia. Ed and Pedro Garcia sent me a couple things also. They sent me an incredible custom t-shirt of me, which is wonderful, but also they sent me a cake in a box. and it's a plug, it's from Cinda Cake, because I didn't know that this existed,

but you can do this and basically you remove the gift box from the shipping box that it comes in and there's a pull strap and that's kind of like taping it at the top. This is an incredible apparatus here. And I've got it right next to the microphone. And when you pull the tape, the box opens, and at the same time as like a hundred corny cash starts flying out of this top of this machine propelled goddamn thing all in the air like confetti, it starts playing. All right, well, that's certainly... I can't stop it.

All right. Wait a minute. I think it's going to stop. Is it going to stop? We can't use that, can we? Well, none of that will be played on YouTube at least. Okay, well, well, then it might make the podcast, then it'll make sense. And if not, I'll cover it.

Folks, right now, we're playing commercial music out of the cake box that will probably not make YouTube. So imagine Celebration by Cool and the Gang. D-Light Records. Well, it's a delightful cake, too, but that's, I'm leaning over here just so I can pick that again. And so get to the cake part. after the dollar bills flung in the air and the music played, it has a variety of small candies in a box on a side

and an individual cake with a candle underneath the plastic globe so it didn't get all fucked up. A Trojan horse with all sorts of viruses and sicknesses. Oh, come on, the Garcia twins would not do that to me. Just because they work at the Center for Disease Control, no shame in that

it's just a coincidence anyway thank you Ed and Pedro and Nikki and Bree too I didn't get your gift yet but I'm assuming it's just been detained in the mail all righty this has been thank yous

well now I got get wells well some people need thanks and some people need to get well and my friend Gabe Yocam do you remember me telling you about Gabe the giant No, I don't remember that. When I did back in, what was it, was it, 2017 and 18 or 18 and 19, or whatever it was, I did the Keystone Comic Con in Philadelphia, and then did C2E2, Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo.

I remember all that, yeah. Well, Gabe is the guy who was in charge. Oh, the big guy who helped you. Yeah, I do remember him. Yeah, yeah. Well, see, he's abnormally large. is what everybody remembers. That when I, you know,

admit, that just, that brings it to mind. Funny enough, a lot of people in wrestling call former Ring of Honor Booker Gabe, Gabe the Giant as well, but it's Gabe the giant prick. Oh, come on now. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. What in the world.

But, anyway, but back to Gabe Yolkham, who is under the weather and it's going to be, I guess he'll be in the hospital. They don't just do things like he's having done out in a parking lot, so it would be in hospital for a few days or whatever this coming week. So I just wanted to wish him well or when he hears about it afterwards or if there is an afterward. No, I'm just kidding.

Gabe, we love you. Boy, he's like seven feet tall. He's just a massive human being. And if it hadn't been for him, I wouldn't have been able to get in or out of either of those places. As you might recall, then I said it was, they were large places. But he was a large person. and also Is he related to Dwight Yocam?

No, he's actually He's related to Mammy Yocum Little Abner's Granny Oh But anyway, Gabe, we love you Feel Better Soon and get back to Taking up way too much space

And I don't mean by that To say that he's just abnormally fat He's a giant human being In all aspects He's just He just takes up So much fucking space

Will you leave him alone? Well, anyway, I'm trying to. I'm moving on here. You keep bringing it back up. And also, Keith from Cleveland, sent an email his beloved little baby, Foxy Lady. His puppy dog, almost 16 years old, has been diagnosed with cancer,

and she's been his faithful companion for so long. It would mean the world to Keith and to Foxy if we give her some recognition. So Foxy Lady, we love you, and Harley sends her puppy kisses. Do you think the term Foxy is used enough nowadays? Not anymore. It's another one of those, they like, well, not, Neil Sedaka wasn't Foxy. No, why would you bring Neil Sedaka into this?

But there were a lot of Foxy people in a 70s. You've got some weird thing with Neil Sedaka. No, what I'm trying to illustrate to you is that it was the same time period. there was too much Neil Sedaka and just the right... In your house. In your house, obviously. And just the right amount of foxy.

And now there's not enough foxy. Because nobody says foxy anymore. Jimmy Hendry. See, Foxy, lady! That could be some goddamn entrance music right there. Are there any men in the world anymore who could say to a woman, I think you're foxy. Could they ever?

Well, no, no. No, you could. You actually could. You could do that, and it would be well received about 50 years ago. But I don't know anybody right. And maybe... Is the term Fox even used? Fox on the run was a song.

Yes, it was. Fox on the run. Actually, our local Fox station used to use that for their bumpers on their commercials. Who did that song? The Sweet. Sweet. Ballroom Blitz. That's right.

Okay, all right. Well, in that case, I think we need to go no further than to mention real briefly before we move on that buy Cracky, the holiday sale at Cornets Collectibles at Jimcornett.com, is underway and moving along swimmingly. And not only are the thank you, fuck you buy t-shirts literally flying off the shelves, but the final variant action figure of me in my beautiful white suit and ready to take on the world with matching tennis racket is proving quite popular. So don't miss out and also remember when you buy

any of the tag team action figure sets, you get the white variant at half price and all can be personally autographed. What more can I do for the people for Christmas, Brian? Do I need to stand out front of their house and carry their packages in for them? You got enough money. Give it away for free.

Whoa, I'll give away this corny cash that came in my syndicate. A sentence never heard before on the planet Earth. They're all English words, but in all of this time, they've never been put together

in that order before. It's amazing, ladies and gentlemen. See, right here on this show. All right, anyway, enough commercialization or commercialism or... commerceosity we've got an email here from one of the fine listeners um i don't know if i should say the last name wesley he may be wesley is his first name his last name he may be related to a famous football player i don't want to get him in trouble but should i say it i'm now i'm curious

but i don't know if you should okay well here here you wesley is the son of the great odis cistrunk No, he's not. Stop it. Well, who else has ever been named fucking Sistrunk? His last name is Sistrunk? Sistrunk. Otis Sistrunk. No, this guy, not OetSys. I know Otis sistrunk. Is this guy? His name is Sistrunk? Is Sistrunk?

Wesley Sistrunk. So he's got to be related, right? There's no other way around it. Who knows? Does he know his football? We'll find out. I've heard of a bunch of people being pissed drunk, but never anybody else being cis drunk. It's the stupidest joke you've ever said, but it's so funny. So anyway, but because he's a football expert, you see, is Wesley.

So it all matches up. It all comes together. Anyway, he writes, in your latest clip about Tony Kahn's role with the Jacksonville Jaguars, you mentioned the coach who was fired for drunken photos with a random girl at the bar. And that guy's name was Urban Meyer. Remember he was in the news a couple years ago because he got fired for... I remember him even before then because Real Sports and HBO did a...

At least one, maybe two profiles on him after he left a... I mean, he's got a little bit of a history of this guy. What we were about to talk about it? See, I just was wondering, well, why did they fire this guy ever just, you know, flirting with some girl at the bar? But apparently it was one of those straws and camel's backs and things. But anyway, Mr. Sistrunk goes on to say, you guys may not be football fans,

but I'm one of the unfortunate diehards who follows not only the on-field results, but also the off-field drama. The coach in question is Urban Meyer, who is one of the most celebrated coaches in college football history, but it never before coached in the NFL. Without getting into too many details, the differences between a college and NFL head coach

are vaguely comparable to the jump from college wrestling coach to professional wrestling trainer, nominally related, yet completely different an approach in execution. For this reason, most college coaches don't work out in the NFL. So you, Mr. Baseball, is it same way? Do they have college baseball?

Yeah, but you don't go from... Most guys don't go from college right to the major leagues. Most guys go through the minor league system. So that takes no one, they have to be older then because they got to finish college and then go to the minor league and play for the Toledo mud hens or whatever. I'll put it this way and I'm probably wrong, but I can't think of an example offhand of a college baseball manager going to the major leagues and becoming a major league manager. Well, it may be the same principle. But anyway, he continues. In Myers' case, he had an aura of excellence that could be and often was intimidating to athletes coming out of high school. Because of this, his coaching technique often consisted of behavior that he could get away with in college but wouldn't fly with professional grown men.

Specifically, he was mentally and sometimes physically abusive to his players under the doctrine of pressure makes diamonds. It also makes fucking compacted junk cars in a fucking junkyard. Sounds like Bill Watts would I like this guy. Well, he might have. Maybe, well, football, you never know. Maybe he had to Urban Meyer as a coach out down at Oklahoma. Anyway, Wesley continues, admittedly it worked. He's one of only two coaches to have won a national championship at two different schools.

However, this approach completely bombed in his short tenure in the NFL. grown men aren't going to be intimidated by a bully simply because they're expected to be, let alone one who is in some cases, a foot shorter and a hundred pounds lighter than them. I wouldn't, did this guy replay football? I don't. Or was he like Abe Saperstein and the Harlem Globetrotters? I believe, I want to say his dad may have been a coach at some point too, but maybe I'm wrong about that.

I got to check. Well, anyway, so this midget, but no, anyway. Ah, he says your respect must be earned. If Tony Kahn had even the slightest knowledge of football, he'd have known that college success does not equate to professional success due to the dramatically different nature of the two businesses.

But listen this. What cannot be dismissed as naivete, however, are the cultures that Meyer fostered during his stents in college. 31 of his players were arrested during his six years as head coach at the University of Florida, including Aaron Hernandez, a star tight end,

who was eventually convicted of murder during his NFL career. I remember this fucking guy. And he says the controversy surrounding player arrest came to a head in 2010 when Meyer abruptly retired due to heart issues.

Now, that was 14 years ago, right? Am I doing my math right? I think so? Okay, well, listen to him for heart issues. He's still around. Two years later, he was hired as the coach for the Ohio State Buckeyes. So apparently his heart got better.

During his seventh season, he again became embroiled in controversy when it was found that he covered up domestic abuse committed by his wide receiver coach that stretched back to his time at Florida. The coach in question is the grandson of Myers' late mentor. and Meyer took an approach of willful blindness out of a misguided sense of loyalty. But now we get to the Jaguars, the Jaguars, as they say in the industry. While at the Jaguars, he continued his history of belittling and demeaning players. Unlike in college, his approach made the team one of the worst in the NFL.

Before the season even started, he was fined $100,000 for violence. undisclosed NFL rules regarding off-season practice. This also cost the Jaguars $200,000. And this would have been during, I guess, the period of time, because we saw him, remember he was during one of the stadium stampedes, they went into a room and there he was coaching. Yeah. And I think he got to hit one of the heels.

Was it Jericho? It was someone. It may have been some glory hound because he was hot for a minute here in the news, the coach, I mean, not Jericho. Yeah, and then well, after he cost him that money, he then proceeded to go two and 11 before he was

fired. However, he was not let go for getting drunk and flirty at a bar. I hadn't heard about this, maybe you have. The final straw came when it was reported that he kicked the team's place kicker during warm-ups before their final pre-season game. And

when confronted, They kicked him where? Well, it doesn't say the, he kicked him on the football field. No, but did it kick him in the crotch? Did he kick him in the shins? I don't know, but it says when confronted,

Meyer said, I'm the head coach. I'll kick you whatever the fuck I want. Oh, Bill Watts would have loved this guy. This guy should go to Mid-South. So he, he got kicked out for kicking the kicker. Did they pay him?

Did they have to pay him the remainder of his contract? It does not, uh, is he being paid by? than today? It does not say one way or the other. But after that came out, the cons finally fired him, he said.

Uh, but yeah, he kicked the kicker. Don't kick the kicker. It all comes back to when ownership thinks they know more than the people who actually know stuff. Again, I saw it with the Mets for years. The Wilpon family thought they knew more

than the baseball people. And it killed the franchise. Now we see things being done the opposite way. I can't speak about Shad Khan, but at least Tony Khan certainly believes he knows more than everyone else about everything. And we see how him knowing more than everyone else about wrestling has worked out. I can only imagine what it's like working for that team and having to deal with him. Do you think there's anybody in the football journalism world like...

Alex Marvez. Okay, I was about to say who in... football who in football journalism tells Tony what a wonderful job he's doing with his football players Alex Marvez and you answered the question before I you ought to play family feud you jumped right in on it there aren't too many NFL reporters that Tony has just given jobs to for five years for no reason and sat ringside with at wrestling shows before that so Alex Marvez well you know sometimes you just got to march to the beat of your own drummer Brian?

Or kick him? Well, no, he didn't kick the drummer, he kicked the kicker. Of course, they don't have a drummer on a football team. They don't know a drummer on a football team. They don't know a drummer. Of course, yeah, they do. They're the big guy that hits the fucking drum from either side. You've got the big red floppy hat on.

And they're twirling the, fuck. Well, it's all part of the same team. It's the same show. They're all pulling the same rope. They're all wanting the same goal. So there comes the drummer on the football team. and people are marching right behind him. You know why?

Because he's the fucking drummer, and that's what you do. You follow the drummer. But some people have their own drummer. They got the beat of that drummer inside their head or in their ears. What about the Pipe? There was no drum involved. Well, dude, nobody pipes in the goddamn world anymore.

They drum, but they don't pipe. They pipe in Scotland, but that's bagpipes. Right. So we do it would be more. like a tea bag over here, but nevertheless. A flute. People put a flute. What would you like to listen to in your ears from Raycon?

I'd like to hear the flute. Well, if you'd like to flaunt your flute, then we can find you a floutist. And you'll be able to hear it courtesy of the everyday earbuds from Raycon. Because I'm telling whether you're listening to flutes or piccolo's or oboes, It doesn't matter. Anything in the horn section, the string, they're all going to sound as clear as day because they're coming from inside your head.

Folks, the voices are coming from inside your head, courtesy of the low-cost and high-quality Racon everyday wireless earbuds, the 32-hour battery life. You've got the multi-point connectivity that lets you pair with two devices at once. Of course, Brian, that didn't work for me, because I had my phonograph record player going in one ear, and I had my cassette tape player going in the other ear,

and I couldn't make out either song because they were playing at the same time. So I'd stick with one device, but you can put two together if you want. Again, stick with one, you're going to throw your equilibrium off if you're listening to two different things at once in each year. Well, I wanted to try it, just see if it worked for me. Maybe it'll work for you. Maybe Vince has two brains. We found that out on Netflix.

But anyway... Hey, let me stop you there. Do you think Vince having two brains is just... He doesn't understand you're able to have two thoughts at once that anyone could do that? Does he think he's special? Because I was thinking about eggs and at the same time I was thinking about Hulk Hogan.

Like, anyone could do that. Well, but the problem was... And then he's thinking about sex with his third brain. Hulk Hogan was eating the eggs and he was reading a Playboy magazine. So it's all interconnected. It's the color of the yoke. And that's the same.

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He's, well, he was, you know, they had him up as he was going to be, it was either him or Bert Reynolds was going to do that cosmopolitan the centerfold. And then they cast him as the Marlborough man, but he thought it would give his fans a bad image if he was caught smoking. But Neil Sadaka, if we had more Neil Sadacas in the country, ladies gentlemen, we'd have more puppy love. Yeah, let's get back to Raycon and away from this. And they called it puppy love.

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All right, well, let's get away from Neil Sedaka. Let's get away from all that. Uh-huh. And this is your show. Why am I going anywhere? I was going to let you. I was just waiting to see where you led the fine folks. I understand that our favorite uncle, Uncle Dave Meltzer,

has published a new publication where he has recapped some of his writings from 40 years ago for the modern audience. 1984, not George Orwell, ladies and gentlemen, but Dave Meltzer. And for those of us, again, old enough to remember Neil Sedaka and when Meltzer made sense, he's always been a bit sarcastic. He'll take the piss out of somebody. But under normal circumstances, years ago, it seemed like he had kind of a more level head. than he does today. But basically what I'm trying to say is now apparently some of his,

I don't want to say predictions, but his comments on some of the talent back then may not have aged as well or proven to be as perceptive as he might have thought back then. Have I encapsulated this properly, Brian? I think so. The Wrestling Observer has been putting out collections available on Amazon of entire year's worth of issues together.

So not just the collection of the writings, with the exception of the readers page, you know, swap and sell market, everything else is in there. I remember that. Yeah, so you're not going to get like, Joe in Arkansas is looking for Tracy Lord's video. Yeah, of course he is.

He's a pervert. So that stuff's not there, but you get everything else. And considering the way Dave's had a problem with the way you look at some, of his favorites and considering how he doesn't really share as much of his opinions about bad stuff, especially when it involves his friends

and he has more friends than wrestling today than he did in 1984. Well, kids, remember we've said, I don't mean interrupt you, but we've talked about before that Dave of all people talking about, oh, the negativity, when he used to just take the piss out of a variety of people, he called J.Y.D. junk food dog, the antibiotic. warrior. I mean, he was taking the piss out of people before it was fashionable. Well, right here I have, for instance, from the March 1984 issue of The Observer,

this is a mild one, but one last note, lots of people say bad things about the USFL, but I will never do such a thing. The reason is that any organization which can keep Steve Williams out of pro wrestling is fine with me. I wish Dr. Death the best of luck with the Denver gold, or at least enough luck to make the team. So again, a young wrestler developing away in a few years, he would be a legend. But Dave wanted him. And one of the all-time greats and most sought after American stars to be booked in Dave's native Japan in like, what, four years from that point.

Yeah. And Doc, he'd been working. What did, did Doc start in late 82, or was it? early 83. No, it was 82. He did like a rant. Like, he was there for maybe a month or two, and then he went back to school. That's right, because he was finishing up school. And he came back in 83 when he, yeah, so he had like six months. What the fuck? Oh, well. That's one example. Here's another one. This is from June of 84. Let me see the exact thing I must have marked here. Oh, this is talking about the last stampede, actually. The battle.

I saw had a lot of action, but Watts looked just pathetic. With his shattered kneecap and a pulled muscle in the same leg, making him limp too noticeably. Wait a better. Shattered kneecap? Remind me to come back to that. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Making him limped much too noticeably for any believability. As it was, he used his tape fist of bloody both foes up quick and pulverized them most of the way. Dog, or Lee, was only in the ring for about 90 seconds of a 20-minute bout. To say I have no respect for dog's work rate or wrestling skill would be giving dog too much credit.

All he did was Kiss Cornette. So that's a review of one of the last stampede matches. It was the big pop of the night. Watts didn't have a shattered kneecap. He had torn his hamstring. And Dennis used to joke that he tore his hamstring kicking Bobby and Dennis in the head, which is what he did. Because Watts hadn't worked in like three years,

and all of a sudden he was, what was it, 14 matches in a month. And on one of the fucking spots he did, he would kick the guys in the head for him to get their color. And he kicked and tore his hamstring. So he had to tape it up, and there was no... You couldn't substitute right for Bill Watts. That was the whole draw, the whole point of him coming out of retirement, one time only.

So he wrapped his leg up and we got by with it because the midnight just fed him and he kicked the shit out of him. Beat them both bloody, beat them. And as we've mentioned, you know, stripped me down and either fed me the bottle and put me in the diaper or the pink dress or whatever stipulation was. And I tell you, I have to kind of agree with Dave there about dog because that was dogs. The last little bit in Mid-South when he was having his troubles and he was just. just not really there sometimes. So unfortunately, I have to say that one may be, there may be something to that. From July 30th, 1984, the issue of the observer, that is, Fulton and Rogers are called the Fantastics and come out to Zizi top sharp-dressed man.

They are so obvious as Morton Gibson replacements and I don't think it will work. For one thing, Fulton and Rogers are simply terrible as a team. What? While Morton and Gibson were very good. What in the world? Fulton can only pretend he's Bill Dundee, while Rogers knows nothing but had a drop kick. Wow.

They messed up so many maneuvers the first time I saw them, it was pitiful. Being there is no justice in wrestling, these two clowns will probably beat Conjory and Eaton for the tag title shortly. The PYT Express has also arrived. At least Coco can work well with Eaton and Conjory. Oh boy. So we stop there. I've never heard the fantastic

shredded like that before. And again, in three years, they're going to be touring regularly for Baba in Japan. The following year, they're going to go, not even the following year, same year, they're going to go to world class and get over like crazy in Dallas

as the other pretty boy alternatives to the Von Erics. The UWM. run and then they're going to come in four years from the time that Dave wrote that and have what was voted in Dave's own publication

the tag team match of the year and basically are going to be involved in the match that what Dave said was the here when FTR worked with Robinson and Lights Switch

said that was the best tag team match since the Midnight Express and the Fantastics on television 30 years ago or whatever. So boy, he his eye for talent is not shining through, is it? Did you ever think Tommy Rogers could only do drop kicks? No, Tommy was

incredible. Tommy Rogers could make me look good. Tommy's work was incredible. He could go up for a slam like you were picking up a fucking styrofoam cup. He could do shit and never touch you and it looked like it knocked your head off. He was so athletic in every facet. And, you know, I can't have mad. Tommy was probably the better athletic worker than Bobby. Even though Bobby had been a pro since he was 16, but Bobby was probably the better psychological worker than Tommy. All he could do is impersonate Bill Dundee, according to

this. Oh, good Lord. He's getting that because Bobby when he became one of the fantastics he picked up Dundee's hip wiggle. Did all the girls who go when he'd do something and the hot dog about it? That's the only thing he did like Dundee.

Here's a review from the June 16th Superdome show. The other main draw on the card saw a tag title bout with no DQ sending the Midnight Express against Ricky Morton and Robert Gibson the rock and rollers with Jim Duggan

handcuffed to Jim Cornette. The bout was pretty good, but the ending was typical Watts. Brilliant, yet almost believable. Hold on. What? That's a little weird there. The bout was pretty good, but the ending was typical Watts. That makes it sound like it's about to turn negative.

Yeah. Brilliant, yet almost believable. But then it is good, but then it's, but not quite good. Okay, I'm not sure whether he likes it or not. Go on. Watts for a few weeks had for some unknown reasons. suddenly began planting ideas that Duggan was a ladies' man. Anyway, a nice-looking lady in a short skirt comes to ringside and kisses Duggan,

then Cornette starts to run. Duggan pulls Cornett down, turns his back on the girl, Wendy Richter, whom Watts, refers to as a modern-day Delilah, who sprays ether on a cloth and puts Big Jim to sleep with a smotherhold. Amidst the confusion, Eaton gets Cornett's tennis racket with a horseshoe inside and clobbers Morton leading to the pen.

All right, that's kind of what happened. Yes, and I still don't know whether he liked it or not. After a big high comes a new low, most main events, upcoming involved tag matches with the dog and sunny king, who is awful, even worse than the dog. Against Reed and Ladd, I shudder to think about these bouts. I shudder.

I shudder the thought. And he was writing again there, but at least he would admit it. Wouldn't shit was going to be kind of bad. Let me go. I have another one here, Jim. This is from November 12, 84, so this is later in the year. Booker Bill Dundee has started appearing in prelims. I figure he'll feud with Street.

Dundee doesn't look as bad as I expected. Nor does street. Don't confuse the facts, though. Neither is good. What? Don't confuse the fact neither is so Dundee, who had just... 83 was like one of his best years. Well, yes, not only the heel run where his promos were so good,

but also he'd had the best fucking match that I'd ever seen in my life with Jerry Lawler on the way out in front of a sold-out Mid-South Coliseum. and then he's booked a record fucking year in Mid-South wrestling but he's not any good and Adrian Street I do okay but again I guess that goes to

even today what does Dave look for and a wrestler that he champions that he supports that he likes Adrian Street wasn't wrestling a Japanese-style match he did really cool stuff in the ring and people were into his matches and it was a gimmick that worked wherever he went

So, I mean, how do you say in 83, 84, how do you say that's not good? Well, then Dundee, complete opposite. Dundee was the first America, well, he was an American, but he was the first person I saw in America to head first dive through the ropes and tackle a motherfucker. And it looked like he was mad and he wanted to get to him and he couldn't wait. But all of the flying shit that Dundee did, Barnes and Dundee were fucking the biggest bump takers you'd ever seen.

Over the top, all. the top. All the shit he was doing, he doesn't like that, he doesn't like Adrian Street, he doesn't like dog, he doesn't like the Fantastix. I'm, you know, we're all over the fucking page here. Well, one final one here this week. This is from December 3rd, 1984 in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. Why did I hold this one? Oh, apparently Akbar will definitely be arriving here as manager at DiBiasey and Buddy Landell, one of the most underrated and improved guys around. This sets up the natural feud

since DeBiase attacked Duggan and Reed and Landau were partners for so long and Reed's known to hate Arabs. They showed Reed whipping the Iron Sheik on TV some weeks back and Duggan's original turning baby face was because of Akbar. Oh no. Now I'm thinking like Bill Watts.

Because earlier in here he wrote something I'm not sure about how they are working the Reed transition. Their, the grammar here is off, their talk they may bring in Scandar Akbar to Reed and Duggan can have a foe in the Super Patriot skit. What the fuck did you just say? That's verbatim.

Their talk they may bring in Scandar Akbar to read and Duggan can have a foe in the Super Patriot skit. Haven't these promoters gotten tired of running, running that garbage. I know many fans get into it, but at least 40% of the population at large finds that stuff revolting. Wait a minute, now, is that from Quinnipiac?

Or where did he get that 40% statistic? And they are turning off a lot of fans by overdoing that angle. And I'll leave you with the final thing here. We'll discuss this. If Akbar left Dallas for Mid-South, what have Jim Cornett left Mid-South for Dallas? So that's who I've got to blame.

We already had the spot with Crockett. Everything was fine. And then Watts got that in the mail and said, ah, shit, you know what? That's where we should have sent him. He was talking to that office. That was one of the only offices actually dealing with Dave around that period of time. You have to wonder if they said something to them.

It was Joel. Joe Watts was dealing with him because Joel Watts was the one that was designated to speak to people most of the time. So he may have known that you were about to go to Dallas, but the idea, you know, I can understand not wanting something that was done in almost, not almost every territory, but a lot of major high profile ones, the idea of an Arabian wrestler, a chic coming and buying American talent, the AWA did it, Ken Paterra became a sheik, Jerry Blackwell became a chic, WWA, Fred Blassie became Ayatollah Blassie, all of a sudden when he managed the Iron Sheik, and of course Scandar Akbar had been doing this in Mid-South for a while.

Yeah, he's been doing it since fucking Senate. The idea that 40% of the population at large, not even casual fans, just anyone in the world, would be turned off to them having Scandar Akbar in 1984 trying to purchase American wrestlers and manage them. What do you think of that? And again, when you look at Dave's arguments all these years later, about when people like us say that things on AEW specifically turn people off,

and then it turns people off and it gets denied I mean it's almost like he saw things one way when he wasn't a fan of someone and it sees things another way when he is a fan of them well he saw things a lot differently

when he was a fan and he's still pretty much a fan just his tastes have changed but I agree Akbar how's he going to file a cornet no the people knew who Akbar was and they knew what the deal was and all of the, for instances that you just elicited with Patera and Blackwell

and all the people becoming sheiks and Ayatollahs and things, that was in all different territories, and nobody except Dave and me at the time probably was watching every goddamn thing because there were still so many television shows to watch. When did you first hear work, I mean, I'm reading this right here. This is from December 3rd, 84, talking about the Cotton Bowl show, in October. I've seen most of the card as I write this. The work rate throughout was pretty good. And execution, for the most part, was so-so, but the bounce were exciting. When did you first hear

the term work rate? Well, probably from reading Dave Meltzer's writings, because that's not a wrestling term at all. It never has been. But Dave's, I think, was the first one to start that. Other people would just say, well, it's kind of exciting or kind of slow or, you know, whatever, but work rate became his go-to thing to describe the in-ring action. Well, there they are some of the 1984 thoughts on specifically Mid-South Wrestling and whatever he thought about wrestling in 1984 in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. But now the rotten stuff gets three and a half stars, and then the real good stuff gets four and three quarters and the great stuff gets seven and a half.

You know why a book like this is something I like beyond making fun of it like this? I like anything that documents how crazy 1984 was for Vince. Just every month it's like, look who's here? Look who's not here anymore. People coming in and out. It's insane. And, you know, again, you see some of the reporting here and you wonder how much of it holds up when he says that the Minnesota crew, the deroches, were going home because George

Scott was taking control and you could tell. how much better George Scott is than Vince McMahon and handling all the day-to-day things. Very interesting stuff here. Well, but that's opinion. Brian, that's opinion from one person. And we don't take opinions from one person around here. We take opinions from a lot of people, from certified pollsters, from people that are canvassed across America,

from clinically validated information. where they actually have people go in a clinic and x-ray them to determine they're not lying in the whole nine yards. And I understand that they have published one of these extensive research projects on who got the best fast food fries in the industry. And you told me that you have a copy of this document that's being given out around. I assume it's, do you have to pay for this kind of information or are they trying to publicized this.

It was buried in the New York Post. Buried in the... Are you talking about it? They actually... They wrapped it in newspaper and buried it somewhere in your yard? Well, it wasn't page one, or page two. Wasn't page three or four or five. It was just deep in the post. Deep in the post.

Well, who did this particular survey or poll or clinically validated dissertation? That's a great question. it doesn't actually say here who uh whose survey this is now that well now wait to me you've told me you got this this big time survey that's going to put this issue to rest once and for all and you don't know who did it and it was i know it was the person on the phone it was the person on the phone person on the phone calling on my phone back there that i can't reach um it doesn't say it just says the best fast food fries for 2024 according to critics

But it doesn't say who the critics are. Well, is it all the critics or just some of the critics or how many critics? Well, it doesn't actually say exactly who it's from. It just says that it's the best fast food fries for 2024, according to critics, and these critics are unnamed. It doesn't have anything in the article that says who's actually doing it. So this is, this, I've thought it was going to be a great bit. And now it's just, it's not validated in any way. Wait, hold on.

These people don't put their names on things. It is from the fast food experts at Eat This, Not That. Oh, okay. Well, now that changes everything. Because if the people at Eat This, not that say to eat this and not that, well, then you pretty much got to listen to them, don't you? So the list goes to 13. They ranked the top 13 French fries and all fast food.

Would you like any guess at number one? See, the thing is, fast food french fries suck these days because windy's back in a 70s and 80s used to be incredible they were six inches long and as fat as your middle finger and crispy and hot and golden brown and now they're these sea salt skin on scrawny fucking things and five guys is as limp as shitstain's dick and McDonald's is iffy because you never know whether you're going to get them fresh or not. I like Arby's crinkle fries these days, and Dairy Queen still has some nice fries. But a lot of the, it's just, it's gone to hell. What do they say? Well, number one on the list,

no surprise, McDonald's. McDonald's, a very popular fries. I'm looking at a picture. I kind of want them right now. Well, you might or you might not. It depends on whether they've got proper management at that location, whether they give me a fresh fries. That's true. or whether they're giving you stale shit. If McDonald's is one, what do you think is two? Again, I don't know who these people are at eat shit and like it, whatever their firm name was. Eat this, not that.

Ah, well, there you go. Has Burger King been heard from? I haven't had Burger King in years. Number two on the list, Wendy's. Oh, Jesus. Christ, it goes downhill from there then. And number three, Arby's curly fries. No, the curly fries will give you heartburn,

and they're too hard and not of a soft consistency on the inside, and they got too much seasoning, and they're usually fucking overdone and or burnt, and they don't change the oil enough, but the crinkle fries are soft on the inside, but they're crispy on the outside, and they look like a French fry, other way that the goddamn governor of Idaho intended it.

According to this, the Arby's Curly Fries, entering the upper tier of fast food French fries, it's time to get curly. And by that we mean discussing Arby's Curly Fries, one of the most legendary fast food items of maybe ever. Oh, good Lord. Love it or hate it. Arby's is a chain that isn't afraid to do its own thing,

and Zig against the Zag. And although the chain somewhat shockingly introduced a crinkle-cut alternative recently... See, there you go! It hasn't changed the fact that the chain's curly fries are as unique as they are undeniably delicious. You know what unique also is? Is a goddamn French-fried Dalmatian dick?

You're going to eat one of those just because it's unique? Unlike any of the other high-profile fast food brands, Arby's made the wise decision a long time ago to go curly and seasoning the spirals with a tasty blend of onion powder cornmeal, garlic powder, baking soda, and other spices. The result is... Long with some road dirt. The result is a shape, a texture, and a seasoning

unlike anything else you'll find in drive-through, earning them a reputation as some of the most popular fast-food fries, of all time. What is this a fucking press release? And they favor it amongst chefs. Are the people over it eat me and blow me the press agents for Arby's?

Fans on Reddit calling them the best fries ever. Oh, God damn it. Is Arby's a perfect... Is Arby's a perfect beacon of quality? Definitely not. But the curly fries have earned their rightful reputation. What the... Number four, Burger King.

So you got that before. Oh, good heavens. Who's number five? Number five, chick-fil-A. You know what? I'm going to disagree with that, and I'll tell you why. I love their fries,

but they're only good for the first five minutes after you get them. Once they cool down, they're never the same. Well, that's what I was going to say. You know, it's just they're kind of there, and they're a little blandish. A little blandish. Number six on the list,

Taco Bell's nacho fries. Well, they're not for me. Number seven, and I'm going to call this overrated, shake-shack crinkle-cut fries. I have never had shake-shack. It's basically the microwave fries in the 80s, but in a high-priced high-class way, I guess. Priced high-class way. Number eight, Culver's crinkle-cut fries. You know what, they're not bad.

Culver's is a heck of a place all the way around and the variety alone, well as the ice cream makes them a wonderful destination. I'm not familiar with Culver's. When it comes to fried... That's... Well, I talked about them the other day, and you've scoffed at the Wisconsin Butterburgers. Oh, that's right.

When it comes to fried sides... That's hard to say. Fried sides... Fried died and laid to the side, as Butch Reed would say. Cheese curds probably earn the most attention at Culver's, but don't sleep on the crinkle-cut fries, which are some of the best sleeper-hits spuds in the fast food game.

All right, let's go on the list. People sound like they're auditioning to be Red Barber or something. Number nine, this is a controversial one probably, at least for you. Number nine, Five Guys fries. Oh, bullshit. What does it have to say for themselves about that? And there's another one of those sentences. Five Guys is the rare burger chain that is equally esteemed for its spuds as its patties.

That's because these boardwalk style fries are the stuff of legend. fresh cut with their crispy skin on edges they're cooked twice in 100% peanut oil to ensure that the exterior is salty golden brown and crunchy while the inside remains light and fluffy who wrote this shit

a favorite fast food fry among chefs who commend the chain for its fresh potatoes and dutiful frying technique it's the extra effort that routinely ranks five guys amongst the best in the biz. That said. Well, apparently they're not even on their goddamn own list of the best in the biz. And can anybody out there tell me that they've ever gotten a french fry from five guys

that was crispy unless it was one of those clingers on that was stuck to the bottom of the basket and it's burnt so hard that you can pick your teeth with it? They're always limp and possibly not even all the way done. That said, they are notoriously on the greasier side And are regarded as some of the least healthy fast food fries out there But a fresh cut spud now and again can't hurt Never hurt anyone So there you go

And when you walk in, they've got these giant sacks of potatoes Your potato is coming from Cordilline Idaho I don't give a fucking my fucking potatoes coming from Dyersburg Just cook it right Number 10, Sonic groovy fries Groovy fries? They took our neighborhood Sonic out years ago. I haven't had Sonic and I don't know how long.

A curious thing happened this summer when Sonic started advertising its new fries, its first French fry update in a decade, as groovy fries. Sonic touted them as hot, crispy, perfectly salted, and made with deep grooves. They're crinkle-cut fries from everything I could see here. As if the chain invented the... Oh, it says it. As if the chain invented the idea of a crinkle cut.

Novel or not, you have to give them credit for such a bold move and they go all the way with completely new fries for a menu that typically does not see such seismic change. Reception has been mixed with one review calling them a solid upgrade while critics on social media decried the decision to completely replace Sonic's original fries. with a lesser product. So that one, to be determined.

A few more here. Number 11, wing stop fries. Not familiar. Number 12, in and out fries, in an out burger. I've had one of those back in the, what, late 90s in, but have not since. So it's back in my memory banks. And finally, the last one on the list, number 13, R.B.'s crinkle fries. Oh, well, just thank you very much, Mr. Arby's press agent for the goddamn curly fries,

for letting the crinkle fries on the bottom of your list. Asshole. So any thoughts on this? Any additional thoughts come into your head in terms of the rankings? There is a place called Raleys here in Louisville that is a legendary for fries, and there's not one anywhere fucking near me, and I haven't been there in ages and ages and ages. but they're probably a regional concern, and this is a national chain. Yeah, where's Nathan's?

Well, I don't know where it's not my week to watch him. Where is Nathan? Nathan's has better fries. How do you know? I've had a lot of these fries. But you don't know if they're better or worse because you haven't had some of these other fries. I haven't had some of the low-ranking ones, you're right. You haven't had covers?

Or Taco Bell Nacho fries. or anything from Arby's ever. I don't think we're missing anything from Taco Bell. I would think I would rather sit Taco Bell and or Crystal I would rather go hungry. All right, well, I'm pretty hungry, but that was the French Fry update, French Fry News.

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On some of the information that's come out, we talked about this in the past when AEW had filed some kind of document that indicated that they were paying talent. what did we figure a hundred million dollars a year or whatever now there's something else that's come out doesn't amount to that but it's legal proceedings so can you fill us in being the legal correspondent of what i'm talking about here a e w we talked about previously we're being sued by kevin kelly and the tait twins the boys from dalton castle and the boys is no way to say that don't castle's boys of don't castle's boys of don't castle's boys A Dalton Castle Boy fame. Like the Raiders of Paul Revere and the Raiders.

Yeah, but not the original ones. You know, the replacement one. No, well, these are the original boys, I guess. I don't know what I'm saying. But back to this, there were multiple issues, including defamation. The boys alleging they were defamed by Tony Khan. Kevin Kelly alleging he was being defamed by Ian Rickabani. And then...

Some wrongful termination in there somewhere or something like that. but then the idea of this being a class action because wrestlers are being misclassified and wrestling personnel as independent contractors when they're actually employees which is not a new issue. And there's probably some meat on that bone

because there is so much evidence to support that theory that wrestlers are misclassified. So as part of a move to get this out of Philadelphia because I'm assuming the last thing AEW wants is a Philadelphia judge. They're going to have it move to federal court. AEW's Chris Harrington,

who you may remember was the very first hire that Tony Khan made when he made the decision to do AEW. He asked Dave Meltzer, who should I hire? And Dave recommended Chris Harrington, who I believe was the founder of WrestleMania. Well, now, wait a minute. What is the business back? What did he hire him to do and what is his background to do it? You're going to start a hundred and something million dollar company from scratch. That's how much it took him to get off the ground, I'm sure. And you're going to hire this guy to do what because he's done what with other companies this size that has qualified him to do that thing there? No, he made really nice charts, just like Brandon Thurston makes.

of publicly available information. No, here's the declaration. I, Chris Harrington, declare that I am of full age and that if called upon to testify under oath, I could and would testify competently to the following. One. I currently serve in the position of Senior Vice President for Business Strategy for All Elite Wrestling LLC.

Oh, well, there's his title. What is their business strategy? I make this declaration based upon my knowledge of AEW's operations and my review of AEW's business records. Between September 1st, 2022 and the present, 290 individuals, and then it says here in parentheses, the putative class members provided services to AEW as wrestlers

or as non-w wrestling talent under independent contractor agreements. So between, let's say for two years there, September 2022 to now, 290 different individuals, at least, because this is only covering people who are not employees, right? Right, that would be independent contractors, employees are different. We know that certain of the roster of the EVPs are employees and maybe who knows whether... What's Jericho?

Well, that's what I was going to say. Jericho, is he an employee, or is it just, hey, have Daddy Shad guarantee my money? Or it's for 10 years. I know I got it. Whatever. Yeah, who has health insurance from AEW or the con family? That would part indicate who's employees and who's not. Again, Kenny Omega, too, you have to wonder.

Well, anyway, 290 people, individuals, it says here. I'll move on. three, the class members reside in diverse states based on AW's records. Only 10 of the putative class members, or 3.4%, have last known addresses within the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. So again, this goes back to moving it out of Pennsylvania. Right. Now, I believe Kevin Kelly lives, he lives in Pennsylvania. And Ian Rickabani lives in Pennsylvania

And Tony Kahn was in Pennsylvania when he made the comments about the Tate's. I think that's what it was, right? Because it wasn't like they just picked Pennsylvania out of thin air. Well, no, well, yes. But Kevin's residence has been for some time in Pennsylvania,

so that would be one thing. And the Tate twins, I don't know about Tony Kahn's whereabouts, but that's entirely feasible. Four, between September 1st, 2022 and the present, AEW paid the putative class members more than $60 million in the aggregate. Now, that's a little bit of a main event.

Let's stop for a second. Well, but here's the thing. More than 60 million in two years of 290-something people, we got the other documentation, but that was when they were trying to get a tax credit or a film credit for shooting somewhere and they said that their talent was, what, $2 million that week. So maybe that was a big week.

But I would think, you know, yeah, it adds up. That may be low for two years, that's $30 million a year. Well, again, that breaks down evenly if he did it that way, to $30 million a year, but as we said before, does that include all the wrestlers?

Does that include a Chris Jericho, a young bucks, Kenny Omega? I guess that's, I mean, Cody was long gone before this period of time that we're talking about. But that's another question there.

Five, if the putative class members were reclassified as employees, then AEW would incur tax liability of at least 9.9,9, percent of the pay rendered two class members, meaning more than 5.97 million in the aggregate. Well, and right there, that's why that for so many years and with almost every company, I've said that guys were independent contractors with the territory days because nobody could afford

paying that much, and I'm not saying it would have been millions of dollars, but it would have been geared to the, to the salaries that were paid out or the payoffs that were paid out. And it would add more, you know, but there's no reason why the WWE or Tony Khan can't afford that money, but it was prohibitive for most everybody else in the business. Well, one more number here. Number six, if the punitive class members were reclassified, employees, then AEW would incur costs and connection with employee benefits of approximately $18,125 annually per employee, meaning $5,25,000, $256,000, $250 per year in the aggregate.

And then he declares under penalty of perjury that everything he's saying is the best of his, to the best of his knowledge is true. So yeah, that's a lot of money. But, you know, $200,000 for the final countdown or, you know, make your wrestlers employees every once in a while. I mean, we've got to have priorities here. You go with the final countdown. And that's based on a number of 290 people. There's no reason it needs to be 290 people.

Right? I mean, we're just assuming that. 290. I guess that's fair. That's ridiculous. No, it's insane. But at the same time. That's not going to change because Tony loves the action figures.

He wants to collect more of them. And that would be, obviously, the people that have come through the forbidden door and the people that have come in through the outdoor and, you know, the people that have made one shot or the people that have been regular or whatever. But again, more than 60 million, how much more? Are we doing, well, it might be 68 million. Well, there's an extra $8 million. We don't know.

And again, does that count any of the multi-million dollar contracts for people like the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, Chris Jericho, and who knows who else has a special deal, or any of the people that came in for a high-price one-off? Does that count sting? You know, there's lots of questions we don't know. But at least $290 people, $60 million in two years. What was the budget? I don't know if you would know this, because it's not like Vince was talking, you know, the budgets, but you've seen enough. stuff in the years since. At the start of the attitude error,

what was the budget for talent? Oh, good Lord. Well, it'd go by the gross when you think about it. The W.W.E. lost $5 million

in 1995 or the fiscal year that ended at that point or whatever. That's a famous, you know, happening in Vince's life when he, the only year he ever lost money until he got into restaurants and, you know, all that other bullshit and casinos. But the grosses. I mean, I know for a fact, under oath, Crockett admitted that his 1986 gross was $21 million,

and Vince at the time was probably doing 50 or 60, but that's the entire gross of the entire company all year. So the remuneration for the talent was a small percentage of that when you talk about the building rents. Because again, if he grossed $60 million, back in those days, did he make $5 or $6 million profit? So that's a thing. There's never been any kind of finances on a scale like this,

even WCW in the 90s with TBS, they, yeah, they famously lost $60 million in one year and said, oh, fuck. But I mean, before that it was, oh, we lost $10 million a year. And it's a major corporation. And that was still bad. Nobody has ever been willing to spend as much money as Tony Kahn has spent to get to the point where he could even start making some of it back. these numbers are just insane. And he's going to have to spend more. The talent budgets are about to go much higher, not lower.

Well, if his football team's any indication it is, as we heard from one of the football fans here on the program last week. Anyway, that's, it's... So is it worth it? I mean, it's a lot of money, but we're talking about someone who has shown zero financial discipline. is it worth it for a number of reasons, including making himself the biggest baby face ever? To do it.

He can do it. What will WWE say if he did it? If he made everyone employees? I don't know how it would work. But if he did it, this lawsuit, a large part of it goes away. He looks great to the wrestling fans and the wrestlers. And all of a sudden the wrestlers are talking about AEW like a utopia again. well but the problem is is that it would actually be showing some fiscal discipline to do that

to make the wrestlers employees that independent contractors because it would be more disciplined than spending these ridiculous amounts of money for the rights fees for the music that the guys used to use on the indies or all of the other exorbitant money that Tony spends for they They burned a fucking house down. They transport a goddamn painted black bread truck from town to town across the country just for a 15 second shot of jungle jackoff pulling up in it. He's spending a ridiculous amount of money to do everything.

So what about take that money and take care of the fucking wrestlers? He's taking care of them, paying them more money than they'd ever make anywhere else. But at the same time, he might even could get away with paying them less money if he said, I'll make you an employee. You and your family will have health care. If one of these idiots dives on you and breaks your fucking neck, I'll pay you less gross, but you'll get tax benefits and insurance and retirement plans.

See, that's one of those things, though. It's a great example. Both companies. You always hear, well, what if one of the wrestlers, what if one of the stars get seriously hurt. And the answer you hear is usually, well, they would take care of him in that case. They would pay for the medical in that case because he was a top star to get hurt on their show.

It's just an assumed thing. Why not make it official? You know what I mean? Like, everyone assumes it anyway. If someone badly gets hurt on a show, the promoter is going to have to take care of it. Make them employees. He has a back-to-school program. He's got wrestlers going back-to-school.

on his dime. Not wrestling school, though. No, no, no, to learn other trades. It's a smart idea, actually. Well, I'm all in favor of that for a lot of them. It's a brilliant idea. But spend some money on this and you change everything. But that's the thing is, okay, if he breaks his leg on our show, we'll pay for it. What about if he gets a brain tumor? He's still a big star. Is he on his own? No insurance? Blah, blah, blah. See, that's the thing. I believe Tony would take care of the guy in that situation. Well, maybe Tony would, but maybe some other people would. Why not make it official?

Yeah. WWE, I don't know. To be honest with you, I'm not even trying to put them down. I don't know if they would, if they thought it would get bad publicity, they would. At least that was the way it was under Vince. Well, you know how it was under Vince? When did you crawl out? Right.

Like, if you were doing this kind of case against WWE, Triple H, a few years ago, still had a talent contract, but he was technically an employee. He was working in the office. He had benefits. So he wouldn't have been in the putative class. That's why you have to wonder who in A.W., and we've heard some of those salaries, and those are ones that make a 60 jump to 75 pretty quick. You have to wonder what other salaries there are. Well, but also, years ago, remember I've told you the story, they made me an employee for like a month. Yeah, you told me that, yeah. Right, and just for the people, a quick gloss over,

since I was off television at that point in time and only working in the office on the creative team and the studio doing announcing, blah, blah, blah, is what will make you an employee? Because they were paying for my insurance, they were reimbursing me for insurance and shit, right? So I was getting the benefits, but I was still an independent contractor

because I was a performer. Now they say, well, we'll just make you an employee. And then like three weeks later, we go out on a raw and we had a technical issue or whatever, tape change. And they said, go out and do something with one of the baby faces. And we cut a promo and I ended up taking a bump and rolling out, whatever. And the next week in the office I see Ed Kaufman from Legal, at raw you took a bump and you know i said yeah so well you're an employee you can't do that now as well nobody told me that nobody told vince that and he's the one that told me to go out and do it

as well besides that i didn't say i was never going to manage again or never going to work again or whatever just unmake me an employee so they undid it and i went back to being an independent contract uh but now they've got well when they all went crazy with the stock sale and everyone becomes a billionaire, whether Shane or Triple H or Stephanie or all the employees of the company that were primarily employees are on the fucking television, getting juice and hitting each other with sledgehammers. And it was like two years later. I don't know what the fuck.

But anyhow, good luck to him is what I have to say. All right. This is your show. All righty. Are you ready to talk a little bit, and I do emphasize the word a little bit, about Smackdown from October the 4th in Nashville, Tennessee. And I know they were in Nashville, Tennessee, Brian,

but why did they have country music star Hardy in the ring at the state? He looks like a high school dropout working at Baskin-Robbins. What's happened to the country stars now? It's either that or they are glam stars. I hate country now. It's just fucking people with tattoos on their face and poor hair choices. It's people who ended up in country because they couldn't make it in a different genre, right?

It's people in country because, like, their rap career didn't take off or they're looking for something to revitalize their pop career. So I'll go country. From what I've seen of all the genres these days, they all look strange. But... Why doesn't anyone go poker? you know they they do up in milwaukee still yes the polka's big in milwaukee and and their dots are big too anyway we're back to nashville to smack down and they the pay-per-view was coming up it was already a record gate they've sold as many as they're going to sell they just kind of they kind of just let this one slide

but poor AJ Stiles got introduced at the top of the thing and I thought he's he's been there and he's been gone and he's been back and he's been gone and he was a baby face and he was a heel and he's just kind of why has he been out this pastime or I mean the time before he came back here he may be out again by the time we get to the end of the night but go ahead where has he been has he been hurt or what he was embarrassed about his hair. Oh, come on. I don't know. Not after Hardy. Well, anyway, the fans gave him a nice ovation, and he said he missed all of them, so I guess he's a baby face again. And then he admitted that he did things that he's not

proud of, and he wants to rebuild his legacy, and it's still the house that AJ Stiles built. And then Carmelo Hayes came out. And I thought, oh, fuck. I'm fast-forwarding this. They talked for a long time. If they wanted to get people back interested in AJ Styles, I don't know if Carmelo Hayes was the fuse they should light. But then I saw LA Knight come out. I said, okay, hold on, I'll stop. And he starts talking, he's got the big cheers, he's got the chance.

And I'm thinking, why is he working with these other people that he's been working with? And he took the piss out of both of them and told Carmelo, if he could beat AJ, then he'd get a U.S. title match. Or I guess, yeah, he said, if AJ won, I don't know what he might have got. I don't know, but he didn't win. Because they did a, before the break even, they did some kind of spot where AJ was going to spring off the ropes and flip backwards and land on his feet. And then Carmelo was going to spring onto the same ropes and cross.

body him. But when AJ landed, he was over-rotating a little bit, so he spun around and tried to scamper up to get back underneath the cross-body, but he was still low at his legs were bent, and when Carmelo came down, AJ's leg, his left leg, got folded up underneath him. And so now he's favoring the ankle. And then when they come back, from the break AJ gives Carmelo what do they call the move where you pick the guy up and drop

his head over the fucking knee do they even have a name for that move these days? I'm not sure if there's a name. Well whatever the name is don't do that anymore if you've got a bad leg because he did that AJ did it to him and he dropped him

on his bad left leg and it buckled and then he just went down and the referee called it. And then there comes a doctor over looking at it. And AJ rolls out, pissed. That's what happened when you get hurt like that. And he's got to be thinking, well, motherfucker, right?

And he limped out of there. And then L.A. Knight tried to save it by giving Carmelo the BFT. And Carmelo at least took the best bump ever for that. You all look like he almost broke his neck. But now, have we heard how AJ Styles is or if he's, he like Neil Sedaka, he came back, now he's going to disappear again. The sad thing is I haven't heard a thing about AJ since that day. What?

They don't even care? No, I haven't heard anything. God damn. I like Carmelo. Carmelo ain't bad. He's going on me. Yeah, like fucking cancer. Oh, come on.

Not like cancer. More like a fungus. And it's a okay fungus. It's a fungus. It's a good fungus. It's a nice. It's one of the good fungi. A refreshing fungi.

That's right. But now when somebody gets carted out over an AEW or limps out or is checked by the doctor in front of the public or whatever, it's all over the internet. Nobody's going to offer. A.J. was checked out. He's okay or his ankle's broken. Anything? Apparently, A.J. tweeted out. I believe everything happens for a reason.

I'll keep you posted. Mama Cornett used to say that when bad shit took place. And then I see a tweet here from Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful. People in WWE claimed this to me today regarding AJ Stiles, and here's a quote, the flip where he sold the knee was to be a work. The move where he landed on the knee was legit. Oh, what? The flip where he, the flip where he, the flip where he,

he sold the knee was to be a work. The move where he landed on the knee was legit. Okay, he didn't land on the, the other motherfucker landed on him, on his knee, but he wasn't selling, when he flipped and landed, that was part of the spot, but he wasn't selling the knee as much as he spun around because he over-rotated and he wasn't going to be able to stand up where he was and fucking catch the guy. and then that was a second too late to be able to be in the right position

not to have the crossbody crumple his fucking leg out from under I mean shit happens it wasn't really anybody's particular fault but not to say that had anything to do with what happened here but you do have to imagine AJ Stiles who has noticeably bulked up now it's hard enough to do the things he used to do at his age but when all of a sudden you're carrying more mass than you ever have before.

Yeah. You know, again, I don't know how much strain that puts on your legs or different body parts. Well, or just affects your rotation in mid-air. But anyway, hopefully he's okay, but it wasn't an auspicious start. And then... Gallows and Anderson were backstaged, and they said, damn it! We were about to get a run again. God damn it!

It's been three years we waited to get to. is. But yes, as I said, then we go to the dumpster match with Chelsea and Mia Yim. Also with chairs, garbage cans, Kendo sticks, and the like. But then we come back

because of continuing with AJ, there was video that they had shot of the doctor checking his left ankle in the trainer's room. Didn't look like AJ was having to work too hard to look disappointed. And they actually said, this is why I bring this up, Brian, did you notice where they said that he went?

No. They said he went to the hospital. They used that word. He's been taken to the hospital for x-rays. So another Vince McMahon fucking rule bites the dust. When Vince heard that, he had to be taken to the hospital too. Yeah, he had a stroke. And I remember

This was in the 90s He said Well nobody believes in it sounds like Bullshit When you say we went to the hospital Well what does it sound like When we say he went to a medical facility That's like

I didn't go to the post office I went to the shipping Department or what It's so unnatural Speaking of unnatural By the time that was over with It was 9 o'clock already That's half the show

Are you excited yet? Woo! So then they had an in-ring promo with Bailey and Tiffy and the refrigerator came in and everybody talked for a while until finally they got in a white they got in a fight

while they were standing there because Bailey called Tiffy a stupid bitch and then the fight was on. and then they We would have heard none of that if this was on Fox Well that's yeah They would have just bleeped out 15 minutes

But then Bailey escaped and beat up The refrigerator with the briefcase And Tiffy was going to cash in but she didn't And then that led to Naomi versus Tiffy And I'm what the fuck is going on here And so I had to skip through that and I was about to give up and here came the bloodline. And Brian, did you listen to the walkout promo

that Jacob Fatu did? Yes. How did you like it, sir? I like the idea of them showing them like that as opposed to just seeing them in the ring and as opposed to kind of being in a fake setting, I thought it was good. But that's what I...

What I've been talking about since we started talking about Jacob Fatu is he sounds kind of halfway like he's off his rocker. He did a heck of a promo. You can believe that he's into what he's doing and that he is who he says he is. And that he has the potential, like, is he a bad analysis because nobody's like Dr. D. David Shultz, but is he one of the guys that you're not sure about even though you know the business is a work, right? That's what I like about the way he comes off.

The aura, that's why I always said, he's the most dangerous one. Before he was there, the other, they're too clean. The Tongas are too clean. Solo's too clean. Jacob Fatu looks dangerous. But I like, at first, I thought Jacob should have been Solo, the new tribal chief.

But honestly, I think they've done this right because, as I said, a show or two ago, Solo is a good enough worker to carry the spot that he's been given, but if he was visually stunning like Jacob at some point, people are going to start liking Jacob. Because they gave Solo the spot and they've got heat on him. And his work can get by with it. You know, then he's the evil genius. He's the supervillain, but he's got this wild-ass henchman to back him up and the henchman can turn.

So they positioned him fucking perfectly. And then Jacob and Solo didn't walk out, but the Tongas did. in a three-way ladder match for the tag team title, the Tongas, Champa and Same Face, and the street party with B-Fab. And they hit ladders and tables and furniture and bullshit and the Bloodline won. And that was the whole God-Dang show.

You know what I did watch it. As you went through the recap, I saw every second of this show. And I enjoyed it when I watched it kind of in the background. They get away with it. They get away with it. They have figured out how to get away with it.

This was a hype show for a pay-per-view. But the thing is, there's nothing like rotten. There's nothing, there's nobody, you know, they're not potatoing each other with shit and falling all over each other, and they're trained properly, and it's a wonderful production. But boy, they take a lot of these shows just off.

Just like, here, put the girls. out there with a dumpster for 20 minutes. Come back and see me. I mean, it just... But that was that, Brian, and I, you know... I was smart down. I mean, now that they're on the USA network, they're not available everywhere that they were

when they were on broadcast television, the networks, but I get you can find them if you want to. You don't have to disguise yourself or anything, but I just wonder how many people... Let's say how many people over on the Isle of Malta might not be able to see Smackdown now that it's on USA instead of Fox, they may have to try to stream this

and change their location or something. How many people on the aisle of Tonga can't watch the bloodline? Well, a lot of people don't want to be associated in Tonga with the Tongas because of their despicable behavior and also because of Tonga Loa's Rotten Wrestling. But whether you're on the Isle of Tonga or the Isle of Malta or the Isle of Man or Isle of Dawn,

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Jim, what's that promo code? JCE. All right. All righty then. Well, what in the world is happening over at the Arcadian Vanguard network? You know, I really don't feel good, and we got a little bit of a ways to go. So real quick, just go through everything on Twitter at Super Podcast on Facebook.

Facebook.com slash Arcadian Vanguard, the wrestling news every day, and everything else, the mothership. Let's move on. Okay. Well, I got my noise suppression on again anyway, so you couldn't hear my sound effects. I hear so much noise.

You... That's going to be the name of my book. I hear so much noise. Well, there was a lot of noise going on, in Atlanta GA on October the 5th with bad blood. There at the big building that used to be the Omni. That's where the Omni stood. They tore the Omni down and they put up a parking lot in this building.

What is the name of this building they were at? I can't remember. It's the new building down there in Atlanta. It's that new one down by where the Omni was. It was right where the Omni was near, yes. Well, it was sold out. had 16,000 people in it. And now this was

the all-time record arena gate in WWE history breaking the record they sent, what, last month in Barcelona or wherever the fuck they were at? Is this going to be a regular thing now? How much more money can they charge? Every single pay-per-view event they've done, they've announced that they set a new,

at least one, sometimes multiple records for live gate, for pay-per-view gate, for a number of things, and they did it here again in Atlanta. Indoor, outdoor. So, but the thing is, again, the irony of this is that these people, when Triple H will tell them,

it's the all-time record-breaking gate, they are cheering that they paid more money than anybody else has ever paid to see the same fucking thing. do you ever think about it like that think about that oh i think about it like that well i figured you'd think about it like that i wouldn't cheer that why would you cheer that i would say i was a goddamn refund refund you're trying to do much money good for you yeah really doesn't help me at all yeah so what was the are they plugging a movie what was the deal with the sketch with triple

H in the he's in the darkness with Cody giving him the assignment to go on stakeout with the rapper whose name was has escaped me.

Metro Booman. God damn it's right. Oh, what was that all about? You're the music expert. Does anybody know this guy besides members of his immediate family? No, he's got a following. He's a big star. And WWE is kind of

doubled in triple down on hip hop and hip hop and just really bad rock that no one buys. It was a lot of rappers on this show. How did he get to be featured? Atlanta's a big rap town, obviously, and there's some sort of sponsorship. WWE usually has a music sponsorship for all these pay-per-view events. There's always a theme song for one of these events. They have a music sponsorship, why they got rappers on a show.

Now, in terms of the skit, I don't know what this is, because this follows up on the Cody Roman Raines' football. football field skit in Atlanta. Cinematic wrestling scene in Atlanta. Well, I can go for that because that drew some money, but just Cody and this guy sitting in a car with Chinese takeout boxes on the dashboard. Nevertheless, the first of many rappers to come.

Rappers may come, rappers may go. Jade and Bianca and Naomi were the hosts of Bail. blood. And I wrote, why do we need hosts? And right then, after that, we never saw them again. Well, we saw them backstage one time when they were in the host room. So they welcomed everybody and said, look up above us. The cell's going to fall. And then they got out of there. Did they get paid for that? I'm sure they did. Fucking hell. Anyway, after we got the first 10 minutes of Gaga out of the way, we got the opening match on bad blood and buy crackie

I see why they did it now because of what they went off the air with but they saved the best for first the hell and a cell match Drew McIntyre and CM Punk and there was no way they were going to be able to top this but because of the multiple cameo appearances and returning cliffhanging drama at the end they had to do it this way but

Was this fair, Brian, to put this on and then expect anybody to follow it? Was this WWE's match of the year? It almost has to be, isn't it? I mean, what? Did this match pick up as it went, as it kept going? Yes. We see so many matches that they keep going past the point where the finish should have been there. This one had the exact opposite.

It kept going, and it kept drawing you more and more into it, and the fans were going crazy at the end. And it was 30 minutes long and it didn't seem like it because it wasn't repetitious and didn't peep before its time. So I'm trying to think. I know they've had a few Donnie Brooks and slobner knockers and the like, but I can't think of anything that because this not only was a great match, but it made me like a match that had furniture involved. and weapons.

And that's almost impossible. This was the match these two needed. Remember when I complained about the previous ones that it just didn't do it for me, the strap match and the first match with Rollins as the ref? Yes. It was missing the energy of I hate you,

and obviously the feud has gone further since then, but I don't know if it had to be this, but I always wanted to see more of just them trying to kill each other, which is what this was. This was great. Yeah, and again, I understand, you know, with Rollins as the referee, they couldn't do what they needed to do in terms of violence,

so they got that one out of the way. I don't know what they were going to do, but maybe if Rollins hadn't been hurt, they would have done something to follow up on that, but they're, you know, they've got an opportunity. We'll see what happens. But the point was this felt like a fight,

a struggle, a contest, whatever terminology you want to use when people go, well, everybody know it's a work, okay but that doesn't mean that you have to just stand there and fucking pull your dick out and show it to them and tell everybody it's still supposed to be the the tickets we bought for the show that we want to see is these two guys trying to beat shit out of each other so that's what they did and not only they started out throwing punches like adult men instead of the forearms,

they used the cage, but when they pulled something out from under the ring, whether it's a chair or a toolbox or a wrench or whatever, it made sense, and they made it work, and they didn't pull out six tables

and set up a goddamn tower like a high school shop class project and try to give somebody the twirling Yamazaki Suplex off the top through the 15 tables for no reason.

They were beating the shit out of each other. Drew pulled out the toolbox and got the wrench, but Punk fought back and got it used the wrench. And it sounds outlaw to say it, but it looked good. Again, they weren't using

obviously fake implements they were made out of plastic or balsa wood or whatever but it's supposed to be real and hitting each other 15 fugging times with them you can see the result I mean that's the other thing we've seen a lot of these matches where they're doing a lot of these crazy things and no one has a scar no one's bleeding and no one looks dirty these guys looked like they had the fight that they were having yes and we and thankfully another thing that's happened that Vince is gone is when it's called for we're getting

Now, I don't know whether Drew intended to get the blood he got, because we'll get to that in a second, but also I liked when they tried to set up the first table, the leg was broken. It wouldn't stand up, so instead of trying to be indie goofs and do their table spot anyway, Drew just jerked the legs off the thing, and they beat each other with the legs.

And Drew was the one that busted punk over. open first when he long darted him into the cage. And already it was to the point where I was writing, can you imagine how this would get over if you didn't have a bunch of underneath guys, mid-card guys, and outright children doing this stuff in every promotion five times a week? Because when shit like this was done sparingly in a big match with the main event guys,

that's when the people were going out of their first. fucking minds. They were with this, but it used to get a bigger reaction because it wasn't so commonplace. And then, speaking of Drew's blood, Punk has the

toolbox in his hand, he's on the floor, and Drew reaches out to grab him, and Punk does the deal where he goes over the, over his head with the toolbox, and Drew didn't block shit.

and punk potatoed him with it and he's bleeding right away but after the show they tweeted pictures of him what did he take 16 staples to uh something like that yeah you know I don't know whether it was a hinge or what

but nevertheless um you know he there was a toolbox made out of taters and then punk is cooking boom boom boom boom boom and he hits the, finally the GTS, but Drew rolls out to the floor. And then they started, they were both selling these things and selling the effects, and Punk is bleeding and Drew's bleeding, but they'll set up, Drew hits a Claymore and gets a two-count.

But then he misses one, and Punk's able to get the sharpshooter, but Drew gets his hands on the wrench, and he beats him off with the wrench. and that sounds really bad the way you said that well you should have seen the way it looked and then did you see the referee get booed for getting a towel and wiping the blood off I'm wondering if in the back they were going like too much blood I said get a little juice kid

so the referee wipes the blood off of him so they can see it he gets booed but their punches were great they were throwing punches at the head and they were bleeding and obviously showing effect, but there were the chops and the kicks, the body language, of how the guy that would get hit would stagger, but the guy that would throw the blow would stagger. And then they broke a table with a suplex off the apron through the table.

Both of them sold it, but they got that done. And then, again, they go back with the big move, where they get a two count, one than the other. And then finally, you know, they're going into the finish Drew gave Punk a ball shot and brought in a black bag, and I was thinking, oh, God, I've gone all this far, they're going to pull out thumbtacks,

and what the fuck? And he dumped the bag on Punk's head, and it was the friendship bracelet beads. and so it made perfect sense and also it wasn't fucking thumb tacks and he poured them as I said on Punk's head and went for the Claymore but punk moved out of the way and the stairs were sitting in the ring

and Drew landed back first on the stairs and I don't know how somebody hasn't paralyzed themselves on these stairs before now but they make me nervous because of those sharp edges and the hard edges. But anyway, so Punk got then, I didn't even see where the chain came from.

It might have been off the cage, but he got a chain, and you've seen guys try to wrap the chain around their arm and clothesline or the chain around their foot and kick or whatever. They could never even goddamn get the chain wrapped up. He wrapped the chain around his left knee correctly, stuck a handful of beads in,

McIntyre's mouth and then picked him up and hit the go to sleep boom one two three and again 30 minutes it didn't get old you you were hanging on it at points where you're oh shit what's going to happen that

blah blah blah they took you on a roller coaster it wasn't indie bullshit because everything looked as good as it could look and made sense instead of just doing stunts and then when punk left the ring

he collapsed and the EMTs came out with the oxygen and gave him the oxygen he got up and he staggered to the back selling the effects of the fucking thing yeah what did you think of that no one does that well it but you it's something like this you almost had to and it was but a lot of people wouldn't have thought of it they're okay it's over now now everybody knows again no this was like fuck, I don't, you know, can I get back?

I want to get back under my own power, but I'm having trouble. And again, this is, they shouldn't have any kind of matches involving any of this shit as often as they do. And they being the royal they, the wrestling companies as a whole.

But when you have it, this is how to have it with guys on top that people care about, that have drawn money, that they're interested in seeing what's going, and they fulfill the goddamn what you want to see. And because you don't just let every goofy jackleg on the show do it,

when people see these people do it, it's memorable and means more. Will this be, I mean, everybody remembers the first hell in a cell because Michael's and Taker and Kane and blah, blah, blah. this will be as memorable in its own way. They said it was the, I think they've had 51 or 53 Hell in a Cell matches. Who remembers number 38?

I can't think of another Hell in a Cell match. I can't think of the last one that really stood out. And I mean, it's an annual thing. We always see it. This one was great. And like I said, this feud needed this match. Yeah. This wasn't like a Hell in a Cell.

Let's just put two people in there. The feud built to this match, it needed to be a certain thing, and they hit a home run. This was one of the best WWE matches I've seen in a very long time. And that's a, when you also throw it the hell in a cells, the elimination chambers, the other things they do with a cage or cages or apparatusi, apparatus, apparatus, apparatus, apparatus, of this type, this is going to be memorable, because it stands out as different as the culmination of something

that was already drawing money and getting ratings and you know, and then they deliver this. And again, hey, the guy in the most memorable match on the biggest gated

pay-per-view arena event of all time just got fired last fall by the other guys for, I guess he couldn't contribute. over there. Huh. What do you do next with punk and with Drew?

Well, I don't honestly know that you can do anything else with them with each other right now and it wouldn't hurt for one or maybe both to be off selling the injuries a while so that the

see, here's the thing, if both them just were on TV and we haven't seen Raw yet, I haven't, if they were just on TV the next day talking about other people or interacting with other people without showing the effects of this or maybe even taking time off to be medically cleared,

then it's obvious that they've gone in different directions. But if one of them is off for a few weeks so that the other one could get involved in another thing with another person that's there and then that person comes back later on and gets involved with somebody else and it's not as obvious a split, right? Because they still hate each other.

And if you were thinking logically, why would Drew want to quit now? But the answer is that somebody else attracts his eye or punk gets involved with somebody else. It's a graceful exit. It's like we're going over here now, but it's not like we just said, okay, we're not doing this anymore.

So it'll be more subtle. Favorite match of the year? So far, one of them of what was... No, that was last year, the tag match with FTR, so that was over a year ago. Yeah. My how time flies when all this shit looks the same. Well, let's leave the cell and go to...

What was the next match? Let's leave the cell and go to hell. The refrigerator versus Bailey for the women's title. Did you watch this? I tried to pick out various points and at, ooh-hoo. Did you see the Frankenstein or the Hurricane Rana or whatever? No, no, I didn't now. Now you're going to make me mad I miss something in this match?

Yeah, well, let me hear your review. Maybe you saw it and I saw it wrong. Well, I'm going to the finish, so tell me what you saw. I saw fucking Nia Jax kind of do a Hurricane Rana-ish move, you know, from the rope, so she had some advantage, but, you know, she couldn't get her. that did not work. I was hoping you would see it. I was really hoping.

But I'm sure you will now. Well, Bailey, finally, some way or another, was able to pick up the refrigerator to give her the Samoan drop and cover her.

But the fridge, when the referee went down to count, they were going to do the spot. It looked like where the fridge, the big monster person, kicks the baby face off of the cover and the baby face lands on the ref. But the refrigerator gave Bailey such a boost. She went over the referee. And so she stood up and kicked the refrigerator and the refrigerator fell on the referee's back and squish a fatty. And then Bailey hit her finish, but there was no referee to count. And here comes Tiffy. And she goes to hit

Bailey with the briefcase and missed her. Not on purpose. She missed her and then hit her real quick the second time. And then went to the referee and is like, they're milking the thing should Tiffy cash in on the fridge. There's no honor among thieves, whatever. But while that's going on, the fridge sits up and sees them. And that's when Tiffy pulls the case back from the referee.

and they argue, and Bailey gets a roll-up and a two-count, and then Bailey goes the top, and Tiffany distracts the referee, and fucking refrigerator gets the Samoan drop off the top rope and a bonsai, one, two, three, and wins a thing. After you have been Samoan dropped off the top rope by a 397-pound woman,

do you need the bonsai drop? No, I don't think anyone needs The bonsai drop from Nia Jax, no I wish you saw, this was so sloppy, I wish you would have seen this Well, it's, it's just so much hours and hours of programming Oh, you guys are too hard on Nia Jax, if you watch her, she's improved a lot So I watched it, I don't believe those people So I watched it, I wanted to see, maybe I was wrong, maybe you're wrong

And I watched it and man, she sucks And you were wrong, and I was right I was right too, I believe the same thing you do No, you were wrong because you watched it. Because you see, you were wrong. You believed other people. I believed my own eyes. So I wasn't wrong.

You have to see the Hurricane Rana, but whatever. I'll go back to watch the hurricane. And she drank to, she obviously couldn't do a backflip of any description. All right, now you got me curious. So, speaking of people such as that, the Legends of Wrestling, ex-pack, Tully Blanchard,

and Arne Anderson were in the front row with a bunch more rappers. I don't know if they were with them. Did they come in the same car? They were seated near the rappers, but I don't know if they... The other thing is,

they keep showing the same seats with different people sitting in them. Where does everyone go? Where do they shuffle everyone to? Well, yeah, you never see in, like, match number four, well, there's Tully really cheering on his favorite. And it's the same...

Yeah, well, maybe they've got a co-op for the tickets. That way it's less expensive. That's how they got the big gate. Everybody that bought a ticket, they chipped in the money and they get one match. Or maybe what they need to do is just get on the telephone and call somebody, Brian. Oh. They could do that. They could do that.

This would be a wonderful time to tell people how they can do that. Well, yes, because, you know, the rappers, they got all the phones. They're big on the texting. They're the young people. That's what the young people do. They text and they data and they take pictures with their phones. You know, all those years I was a photographer, I could have made phone calls on my camera and I never knew it.

The young people, or as you want to maybe call them all of society, yes, this is how they do things. Well, and they're very social, these young people too. That's what I guess they got the social media. And folks, right now, if you'd like to be like the young people, then you can get one of these dad-gum, inexpensive premium wireless cell phone type of plans. You don't have to buy the overpriced expensive ones. You can go to Mint Mobile and get these plans for only $15 a month with a three-month plan.

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and blah blah blah and I like especially part of it may have been trans because there's a lot of legends living in the Georgia area later on I think Page was there Diamond Dallas Page and some other people Scott Steiner was there and I think they ought to do that even if they had to fly people bring the guys that were over in that town or in that market or from that part of the country and that makes it even more cool. And then hopefully they'll do this for a long time, months and months maybe, and then they'll do a goddamn angle with one of these people.

And it'll mean something, but it won't just... Well, they did one with one of them here, but we'll talk about that when we get there. Well, but I mean on an ongoing basis to bring one of the... legends back as an integral part of the festivities. Well, again, they tease something later on here. Well, but without giving anything away, I don't know that that gentleman,

I'm talking about somebody coming back to become an announcer or a manager or involved with somebody. I don't think the individual that we have yet to talk about is coming back for a long campaign. But nevertheless, I don't know if he's coming back at all.

But before we get there, Damien Priest versus Finn Baller. Brian, does that pairing just send chills and shivers up your spine, or shills and shivers? I had no shills or shivers, but I thought it was a good match. That's the thing. It was a good match. And following the first one, you know, was impossible anyway, but I've wanted to like Damien Priest. He has the size.

He has the tools. He has all the things we've praised. him for. He was more aggressive in this match. He's been more aggressive, I think, since he lost the world title, which kind of, I think, hurt him because everybody's like,

okay, they're rolling their eyes at that belt. At that point. But is something not clicked with Damian Priest? Is it maybe... Finn and Baller is not a big, fucking big time top heel. I'm sorry, but he's got the

rag in his back pocket and he's wearing fucking sneakers and he's got the little voice like that and he's you know the foot shorter than priest and 40 pounds lighter or whatever it is

would Finn Baller have just been the goddamn greatest thing that Ring of Honor had ever seen back in 2011 he's he's a Ring of Honor style guy and I just

they went back and forth in this. There wasn't anything wrong with it. It wasn't bad. It wasn't insulting. It was good as far as being executed, but I zoned out.

I've seen them. They were together and then they've been apart and it seems like they've always been together or apart. Am I just finding different reasons to explain why I didn't give a shit? No, that was very profound.

Isn't that? I mean, again, and then you knew... You've never been a Bauer fan. It's just, I just don't, he's very good to be part of a group. I don't see him being the leader of the group or being the guy on his own. You don't buy him as a threat to someone the size of priest.

I don't buy him as a threat to society at large. And, you know, then basically here comes Carlito and J.D., and they interfere, and Finn gets a two-count or two. and then Carlito draws the referee and J.D. slides the chair in, but Priest kicks the chair and nails Carlito and back drops

J.D. over the top rope, my God, he boosted him 20 feet in the air and he totally missed Carlito. Poor fellow. What a... The floor was there to break his fall. And then Finn dropped Priest and went to the top and did the double stomp to the back and tried it again.

But Priest moved, but Finn got him with one foot anyway. And that, I don't know whether he's supposed to get him with both, miss him with both, whatever the fuck. And then he tried again, but Priest caught him with the choke slam one, two, three.

And that was the name of that tune. I like Priest when he's supporting Ria Ripley, who is the star of our show. Well, they kind of did something where they're separated on this show too. And you have to wonder what they're going to do next one. You keep them as a baby

face, you turn them back heel? No, it's too quick for that. Because it's like the LA Knight thing. Who do you see him working with right now? Yeah, the only thing is is that LA Knight is super over and I think they think that if he'll work with some of these other middle card guys

that it'll elevate them, but it just kind of bores everybody else. But Priest is not super over. Priest and Ria are super over and Ria is super over. and priest is over okay. But who's he going to work with next? And what's, I don't know,

you've got a few people floating around there. There's a lot of talent in this salad bowl here. Well, there was more salad to come. Well, that's right, because Triple H had a big Caesar salad for us. So the crown jewel podium is in the ring. And Triple H comes out, he gets the Triple H chance. he recalls living in Atlanta in 1994. I thought for sure he'd mention, you know,

the fucking old sites like the original chick fillet down there, the dwarf house down. And Terry Taylor. And Terry Taylor. But this was the 60th sellout of 2024. And because they're only doing what SmackDown. down raw and the occasional house show these days, that's more impressive even than it used to be.

60 is sellout, largest arena gross in history. And they're loving that. And then he plugged Saudi Arabia and the crowd kind of lightly booed. And then he announced that, and this, I know they wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't that Saudi Arabia is paying them what, $50 million a show. We've established that. I think they've admitted that from their own chicken lips.

Obviously, they know this is not a good thing to add more belts and more titles and to have their two champions meet each other anywhere but at WrestleMania, but because they're getting paid such a shitload of fucking money at the Crown jewel in Saudi Arabia, the WWE champion and the world champion, men and women, are going to face each other. Neither of those titles is going to be on the line,

but the winner will become a new crown jewel champion, and then they unveiled that new ugly-ass belt. And there's green in it. Have you ever seen an attractive, wrestling title belt with green in it? I mean, I kind of like the one Hogan and Backland had in 83, 84, but... That was green leather. Green leather. That's the only green I can think of.

I'm talking about green. When Jeff Jared had that bullshit promotion, he was starting up again. Global Force. Was there green in that? That was green, I believe. Well, green is a pepper tree. As Frank Spaceman Hickey would say, well, maybe that's why they didn't make it. Because they had a green belt.

the fans here were unimpressed by this announcement but they got to do it like I said they're making you know how many tens of millions of dollars but here comes Gunther and he comes out and basically says he's going to be winning

the crown jewel belt because he's the world champion and he's going to win his match and on Monday night he's going to beat Sammy Zane and they they already were sold so far out they didn't even need that match on this pay-per-view they're just putting it on television and then guinther said well let's put the spotlight on the legends and the fans because

and now at that point i think tully and arns tour of duty was over and goldberg was at ringside with his son and i believe another rapper wasn't he who was he there with possibly he showed him next to killer Mike earlier the night. There you go. Why don't they bring out the temptations or some of the Motown groups for some of the old legends?

Because they're all dead. That's true. Anyway, so the fans are chanting Goldberg, Goldberg, and Gunther says, because of course he referenced him with the promo he did with Brett Hart here a few weeks ago.

And he told Goldberg, he said, I have to admit. See, I can do his voice now. See, you see, that sounds just like Gunther now, doesn't it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Gunther says, I wouldn't really, I didn't really mean it when I said you were my hero. I was just busting Brett's balls. A guy like a one-trick pony like you couldn't be my hero. and then Gunther tells Goldberg's son, I hope he's a better father than he is a wrestler. And that's why Goldberg's been sitting there

and they've got the reaction shots and he's kind of laughing it off and smiling. And then when he got to that point, now he's hot. He stood up and he took his jacket off and he hopped over the rail and security came out and Goldberg was milking it

and the people were up and yeah, we want to see this. and suddenly Sammy Zane hit the ring and attacked Gunther, and they had a big fight and a big pull apart to plug. Now they're plugging raw on the pay-per-view. But I guess it doesn't really matter anymore, does it? It's all content.

You don't have to buy the pay-per-view. You can just subscribe to Peacock. But anyway, I see what you were saying earlier when you said, well, they did something with one of the legends, but it's... Did that seem like the last time we're going to see Goldberger or his son with Gunther? Well, I don't I don't honestly think they're going to do Goldberg

versus Gunther as a match because they wouldn't put Goldberg over and it would probably be a bummer if he didn't win because people would know it'd probably be his last match but they're not going to put Goldberg over Gunther at this stage of the game because that would be ridiculous. It would be ridiculous and we don't know what they'll do and what will build to what but we did hear

remember it was a while back we heard rumors that Tony Kahn and Goldberg did an interview where he said he wouldn't go to AEW thought it was a clown show. And we know what Tony Kahn has thought of Goldberg in the past, but Goldberg also said he wanted to do a retirement show or a retirement tour. I think he said retirement tour. There's only one place to do it if you're going to do anything. I'm not saying they're going to give them a tour. They're about to do it for Sina. You can't do it for two guys in a row.

And you can't do it two guys concurrently. and when both of them, well, Sina's ready to retire, and Goldberg's in his 50s. So it's not like he can wait around. That's why I'm saying this was for Atlanta. It was for, you know, some footage. Maybe it would go viral or whatever. But I don't see Goldberg coming out of retirement

for a match off of an angle like this or being a recurring character. But that's just me. Who knows anything could happen. Diamond Dallas Page, Mickey James, and Scott Steiner were at ringside. Steiner went from having his picture put up

at the back door, Do not let this man in, call police to sit in the front row and getting a camera shot and a caron. So anything can happen. Speaking of anything happening, Brian, would you like your very own

Lucha lowrider in Toy Story now? Oh, I got one for my son. Are you serious? Yeah, I'm serious. I buy all sorts of toys for me and for my kids. But I'll just say, he didn't have a lowrider. He had a Batmobile. Actually, a few Batmobiles. Well, I had a Batmobile. He has a Ghostbusters, uh, Ecto 1, and now he has a low rider. So he's ready for all kinds of action. I had a Batmobile because Batman is a hero. Batman is the the crime fighter in Gotham City kids are supposed to look up to

guys like that that have masks on and wear long tights and a cod piece and hide out in dark alleys You don't need to use the lowrider for heels You can use it for your Cheech and Chong figures or something But here comes Dominic Mysterio and old Liv Morgan The Weasley heel and his skanky girlfriend I'm talking about gimmicks now, folks.

They're disreputable people. They do horrible things. They have vulgar mouths, and they drive up in his fancy car, and now your kid can buy a luchelow rider in toy stores now. What kind of kid wants to ride around looking like a heel? With a live on his lap? Probably a lot of kids.

Oh, kids between the ages of 18 and 30? That's probably the prime audience. I would tell Liv Morgan, I'd say, you come over here and sit on my lap right now. We're going to get something straight in between us. Anyway, so they come out in the lowrider, which is in toy stores now. And then here comes Ria Ripley. And she gets the big pop. And boy, and she has new merchandise of her own, the Dominic Mysterio toilet paper.

Not original, but still, I'm sure they'll sell a bunch of it. I've got a roll of Trump paper, but I'm afraid that it'll get my shit dirty. So the deal was the women's title, Liv and Ria, obviously, Dominic in the shark cage, as they call it, over the ring. But I was disappointed, because I thought certainly Dominic,

if anybody, this little weasel, he's going to know how to do this. There was no argument about getting in the cage, no fight. He didn't have to be forced. The referees didn't have to come down. Ria should have been the one as he's trying to back out to drop kick him in the back and knock him into the cage. That whole thing.

They skipped all the way over that. Have you ever seen the heel manager or whoever's in a cage just get in the cage and say, okay? Never. It was refreshing. What? That's the best part of the match. I remember when I told old Dick Worfell. in Baltimore at the Bash 88.

I have to go to the bathroom. Let me out. Anyhow. The best part of the match is when the heel hangs upside down, traditionally. Well, the fuck, the heel, all right, never mind. They did at least say that Dominic was scared of heights, but the time to bring that up was also in the buildup to the whole thing.

He's not only claustrophobic, he's scared of heights. kind of sold it as he went up. But I was disappointed in that. And then they didn't do the deal where all re-assed do is give Liv a couple bumps and then Liv go over and yell up at Dom like, help me, give me some advice. And Dom leans down and starts yelling.

And the people will make noise because it's Dominic talking. And then Liv does the deal where I can't hear you. Talk louder and he's screaming. And they scream louder. and then he turns the people like, shut up, she can't hear me, and they scream. They didn't do that either. All they did was have a wrestling match. What the fuck?

Anyhow, Ria Ripley is not only the best woman wrestler in the business. She's better than half the men. And I must admit that Liv Morgan, in this instance, the match made sense. Liv was aggressive because she's so much smaller, she was sneaky. She worked the bad leg that they have established that Ria has had problems with. So I liked the match and it wasn't, you know, typical girl wrestling of these days. And then finally, boom, boom, they did this fucking deal where I think Ria had hit a razor's edge or whatever. and Dominic

opened the door and the door of the cage is hanging open and I'm thinking well what number one I thought it would be locked and the announcers were saying well he must have picked the lock he picked the lock they said

well but then you should have seen him try to pick the lock I think that he opened a fucking door too soon I think he fucking flummoxed the spot because the door hung up open while Ria did a splash, you got a two count, got the cloverleaf, Liv got the ropes,

they were fighting on the floor under the cage with the door open. I'm wondering if Dominic thought after they'd done the one deal, that's when they were coming to the floor and he opened the cage and then it was too late to close it again. But nevertheless, the cage door is hanging open, but he's still 30 feet in the air so he can't go anywhere. And then as they're fighting on the floor underneath the cage,

and Ria gives Liv a riptide on the floor, that's where Dominic leaned out to make sure that his girlfriend was okay and fell out the fucking door. And had wrapped the chain around his leg, so when he fell out, he was dangling upside down. I'm glad nobody had seen that spot when he used to do that to me or elsewise, because I want to be dangling upside down from no. goddamn Shane.

Anyway, at that point, Ria tells the referee, hey, I need a minute, I got to go take care of some business and jumps out and gets a Kendo stick and uses Dominic as the pinata and she's wailing away on him

when suddenly Raquel Rodriguez is back. And she jumps Ria Ripley and gets a disqualification and beats up Rhea and helps live up and hands her the belt. So now is this a Camille Mercedes business with Raquel and Liv all of a sudden? Well, it'll be Raquel and Liv and Dominic. And I groaned.

I thought, I mean, not at Raquel returning with just the finish to this match. It needed a better finish, I think. Very blah finish and a letdown. but also remember we said Raquel looked good at one point but then they made her wear a bunch of makeup and softened her hair up

and at her smiling and spreading her fucking shoulders out and I said oh the smile looks so unnatural at least it gave her some personality because here she looked like a goddamn robot but

that's what happened there they couldn't beat Ria but I guess they didn't want to switch the belt you can't live is so good right now you can't change anything with her. Well, maybe she could change her underwear every once in a while. Well, maybe.

You could ask Dominic about that. But now, she's so perfect in this role. And even her taking the beating from Ria, you know, it's not completely unbelievable. She's really good in the role they gave her. I will. And as I said, it was a good match up until then and everybody's over. But I was confused. They missed some spots with the cage.

I didn't know why Dominic opened the door so early. and the finish was flat. But everything else is great. And I'll tell you, again, they missed, that's the whole reason to put the guy up there, put the heel up there. They could have had something that Ria could have climbed up on and jumped off and swung the cage.

The people used to blow when they would put me in the cage and Robert Gibson was the tallest, so he would do it. He could jump up on the top rope and kind of walk a step or two down the rope and push the cage and swing me and I'd be going back and forth and shitting myself and people are going crazy. You have to fuck with the

manager or the second or the partner or whoever's in the cage because that gives people what they wanted to see out of it. So I was just, I was disappointed a little there. And it's easy to make people shit. In Houston, Texas, the Sam Houston Colise

them, they fucking, instead of having some type of professional apparatus and a chain and everything, they put me in that goddamn manager cage and three guys pulled me up on a pulley with a rope and tied it off to the ring post. And I'm 20 feet up in the air, but every time that rope stretches, you drop about a half an inch, you're like, oh shit, this is a big one. I've been in cherry pickers. I was hung from a sit-down harness while I was at a straight jacket. My legs went numb.

They put me in every goddamn thing, but you have to participate with the guy or the person or whatever that's in the thing. All right. Brian, would you like to talk about the main event? It's the main event. I'd like to hear what you thought of it, yeah. Solo and Jacob Fatu against Cody Rhodes and Roman Rains and this is what

you know, the big the gate and the whole nine yards I yes, Drew and Punk was a hot program but this is what they've been trying to feature what's going to happen with Cody and Roman will they get along, will they break up what you know what's going to take place and this was the big tease

and when they start this match, allegedly, they said the Tongas, Loa and Tama, were not there because of the beating they suffered the previous night. Have we decided that probably it's the shits to have a marching band and dancers playing Cody's music? It didn't seem necessary for this, but then again it was his hometown, and he's very much into big band music? Well, then he should have had Glenn Miller or Kay Kaiser. Cody's known for his love of marching bands. What about Ishkibble? Google Atwin, kids. Boy, howdy, I'll tell you what.

It was the University of Arkansas Pine Bluff marching band. They weren't even from Atlanta. Did you hear the story behind this? No. Apparently at one of their games, they played Cody's music and it went viral. So he found out, I guess, and they got. Got them to come. But a college marching band, even one as accomplished as the University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff,

Cody's music doesn't sound right coming from a band, a marching band. It'll like stairway to heaven on a harmonica. So then they did the real entrance with the real music and out came Cody and blah, blah, blah. and then Roman is ready to come out and they have an orchestra I mean like not a college band but like an orchestra

there was a gray-headed motherfucker it looked like he was 87 if he was a day but they got the bass and the strings and the oboe and the oba and the feme and all those other people and it sounded better because Roman's music lends itself

to that orchestra a little bit better. But they were three hours into the show when they rang the bell to start the match. And I have to say for once, I don't think this was too long. You know, because everything was kept moving and the matches were good. So now we got the main event. And it was a tag team match player. And I think it was more about the story than the match.

The match was nowhere near as revolutionary or groundbreaking or exciting or, you know, whatever, scintillating, whatever term you want to use for the hell and cell match. But there wasn't anything wrong with it. And everybody in the match is either a star or in the case of Jacob Fatu is the star henchman. So the match, and they kept it, they kept it moving, but they kept it fresh at the same time. it wasn't the same shit you always see it, it wasn't the same shit happening over and over. And I mean, I did a

notations of the back and force, but basically that's what they did. They took the people on kind of the roller coaster ride where the baby faces would be in charge, but then the heels would settle down and get some heat on them, but then there'd be a tag.

And I will have mentioned at one point, Roman actually they got a little heat on him and he made a hot tag to Cody and it actually was a decent hot tag and then Cody made a comeback hit the flip flop and fly all the dusty stuff gets over in Atlanta especially and then later on when it was time for the reverse

Cody kind of cold tagged Roman but the people popped anyway because they want to see Roman come in and make the comeback so Cody just kind of stood up and reached his hand out and leaned over and tagged him and fell. But he made the big comeback on Solo, did Roman, and the Superman punch. And then Solo and Jacob stopped Roman and Fatu with that fucking springboard moonsault. And he doesn't even have to look and he nails it every time.

It's amazing. The first time I saw him do that in MLW, I was like, he doesn't look physically like he should be able to do the shit that he does. And he was probably 50 pounds heavier then. But he just instinctively, I mean, I would let him, I don't know that there's anybody else that I'd let moon salt me except for Jacob Fattu, because I've never seen him potato anybody with it. But anyway, then they go to the floor, Cody and Jacob. and Cody hits the crossroads on the floor

and then Jacob's on the desk and Cody comes off the top well he gets on the top and he looks at Roman and gives him a little salute like I've got this motherfucker you handle that one and he splashes Fatu off the top through the announced desk and takes them both out of the fucking deal

and then Roman and Solo getting the fight and Roman hits the Superman punch, and here come the Tongas. They lied. Those dirty heels, they lied. And then Solo was able to spear Roman and get a two count.

And now Solo is taunting Roman. He feels like he's got everything well in hand. And the Tongas are on the floor, and Solo looks out and sees a guy in a hoodie on the floor behind the Tongas. And as they turn, he super kicks them. And it's Jimmy Uso. Oh shit, he's back and Roman Spears solo boom one, two, three.

Because right there, you ain't going to get him any farther up anyway. But before we go to the afterbirth of this long, sordid saga, what'd you think of the match? I thought it was okay, but just okay. Took a while, I thought. There were some really cool moments, like the Moonsault, like Cody giving the sign off the Roman, and sacrificing himself to give Roman that moment.

But I thought the match was just okay, but that's typically what bloodline matches are. It's not about the matches. It's about the moments that happen around the matches. And I think that's, as we're going to get to this whole deal here in a second, that's why they had to put this on last. But I really think this match would have probably gotten over better if it hadn't come after the hell and the Selma.

everything else just the people still enjoyed a lot and they cheered for everybody but after you had seen that your your level of being impressed the bar had been raised you see what i'm saying for that night at least yeah but enough time went by that it was almost like you had enough chance to refresh yourself from that first match well yeah you can't grieve forever i mean it's a paper view that was the first match and a whole card and i know i know i'm just that's what Lawler used to say to Jim Ross. They'd do some fucking deal on Raw and the attitude era of where some guy had been disemboweled with a chainsaw

and the innards hung out to dry and some horrible thing happening. And they go to the break and three minutes later, they come back and here's the goddamn, the human oddities in the ring or something. And Lawler would elbow JR and say, oh, well, we can't grieve forever. And now here we go.

Anyway. so Roman and Jimmy Uso, they have a hug, and they get the big pop, because now Jimmy Uso has come back into the fold. And then Roman and Cody kind of face off at each other, and Roman looks at the belt. But then he nods at Cody, and he gets out of the ring, he's like, okay, I respect you or whatever. And Roman and Uso are walking to the back,

and the Tongas jump back in and solo jump. jumps back in, and Jacob jumps back in, and they're all attacking Cody. And Uso's asking, Roman, what are we going to do here? What are you going to just stand here? And Roman thinks about for a minute, and then Roman and Jimmy Uso hit the ring and take out the heels. Boom, boom, boom, and Roman picks the belt up and hands it to Cody. And right as that happens, you hear from the PA system,

If you smell... And then you couldn't hear anything else. Now, if you smell what the rock is cooking, and the crowd went bat shit, and it's the rock with the people's champion belt that he got from Muhammad Ali's widow at a yard sale, and the rock stared at the baby faces,

and the baby faces stared at the rock, and the baby faces stared at each other staring at the rock and the rock stared at the people staring at him staring at the baby faces and in the rock left. So that's what happened. WrestleMania's next year, so Rock's getting ready for the season that he'll be around and he gets to now claim that he drew the gate

and drew the house and drew everything for the show. Are you saying it tis the season to be rocked? Well, we will see what happens because, you know, those are the two natural matchups he has. Cody and Roman. We don't know who he's going after right now. It's intriguing. We'll see where it goes, and that was bad blood. Well, I tell you, Brian, overall.

Did you see the thing after the show that? Well, that's where I was going to say. Overall, I was going to say a very, a very, a very, acceptable show, big hell and a cell match, some other stuff was good, but they couldn't fit everything into the pay-per-view. Some of the stuff happened after the pay-per-view, and I got to admit, you could never have done this before. When I say before, I mean before, probably what, 10 or 12 years ago,

but there was no way prior to social media, the self-fell phone cameras, everybody having a camera in their pocket, there was no way to do a turn without actually showing it on television or talking about, you had to use television because there was no other option. And now they've got this thing going so well, and they got people so tuned in that they can throw them a curve, they turned Kevin Owen's heel on Cody Rhodes into parking lot after the show. And they apparently didn't shoot it. They let the fans shoot it.

Now, I don't know if that clip going around is a real fan or someone playing the part of a fan. There's more than one clip shot by fans going around. Well, I saw one in a number of places. I thought there was a main one. I don't see, I don't, did they do this or just? Did they instigate the people retweeting it on social media, or did they let them start it from scratch? Because that would be even greater.

And we don't know because they would not be doing it from the WW account. They'd be doing it from Sam 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or whatever. But whatever the point is, you see there was an area behind the building and the parking area where I've been to arenas like this before where maybe it's the edge of a parking garage or people can get up higher and you're looking down and you're seeing the VIP parking area

or employee entrance area of the building. And there's Kevin Owens and Cody Rhodes having an argument just out by themselves in the middle of the parking lot where the fans can shoot it with their camera phones. And then you can hear the chatter of the fans. You know,

what are they talking about? And then all of a sudden Owen just punches Cody and boom and starts getting on him and Cody's covering up and Owens is kicking him and stomping him and wailing on him

and then some people run up and try to start separating it. But the fans did the camera work for the fucking promotion. And I would have to think that because they did this this way that they really didn't shoot it and you could see

there was no cameras in sight so are they they're going to let the social media footage that that the fans took be the only record of it and it's going around and they had triple H tweet

I guess that we are aware of an incident between Cody Rhodes and Kevin Owens at the arena and we're addressing it internally so normally again you would have to beat people over the head with showing it on television.

Here's what happened. Here's what happened. Now more people are seeing it and interested in it because they're not showing it to them at all. You got to look up the fan footage. Everybody now is their own TV station. So I love the idea. I think that's fucking great.

I can't believe they went ahead and turned Kevin Owens on Cody Red. This probably means they're Pretty sure he is on the way out. I would think. Let's turn him and feed him to Cody before we lose him. That's what I think. I thought he was leaving a few weeks ago when I said it on the air. Well, I know yes, and we talked about it, and I was of that opinion also,

but this is more evidence. It's not like your goddamn Nostradamus over there. But then the only thing that, again, that made me wonder because then Orton turning on Cody is the money and I would say maybe that might dull it or take the shine off of it but maybe that just indicates that Cody picks his friends wrong because of the

incredible power of the pull of the world title. I don't think it does anything to take away Orton's turn as long as Orton doesn't turn right away. If we go another year... That's true. If we go another year where he's Cody's friend it'll only make it stronger. If he was Cody's friend when Orton turned

turned on them and whatever else happens to them between now and then, I think then you got something. Well, right now, apparently they're going to have to discipline Kevin Owens for punching Cody out in the parking lot. Maybe, you know what, Owens ought to retain Stephen P. New. What did you think of the execution beyond the actual use of fan footage or what may be fan footage? What did you think of the execution of the two guys?

Besides Owens getting a little fancy with his stomper, He was doing a backwards stomp and it looked like a beat down in a ring a little bit with the kicks which kind of took away from it a little bit but they did a good job and Cody really got sucker punched and just had to cover up and lay there.

Owens was doing the most of it but it looked, it got the people there at the time that you hear on the video. And we shall see where they go with Cody and Kevin Owens. Well, you know what? Survivor Series is coming up. It's coming in?

Certainly. We heard what? Beginning of the year is contracts over or at the end of the year? That's what it matters. That's what tells you if they're going to do Survivor Series, get it done, or start it now and get it done to a Royal Rumble or something. Well, that sounds like, more like Owens and Rhodes sounds like a December pay-per-view. Are they doing a December pay-per-view this year? If we get Owens versus Sammy Zane all of a sudden on one of these shows, is that a sign that he's leaving?

he asked for one last match with his buck. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. You know, he's got to give him a kiss on the way out. Because, you know, they'll, they'll want to do, when they're in an old folks home somewhere, they'll want to have a match out in the backyard just to entertain themselves and the old lady in 5B. Well, that wasn't 5B, that was 2B, bad blood. To be determined. Bad, bad, blood, blood. God.

The show is over, run, run, run. The show is over, isn't it? It's your show. I mean, this is how you're choosing to close the show. Oh, now it's my fault. All right, folks. We're going to be back in a couple of days with Raw and Title Tuesday and NXT and St. Louis and so much more on the drive-through.

And we thank you for hanging with us on this one. And we'll be back next week with another one. Until then, this one's over. So thank you. And bye-bye, everybody. periods