Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 554: Jim Reviews AEW WrestleDream 2024

Episode Date: October 20, 2024

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews AEW WrestleDream! Plus Jim talks about Jimmy Jacobs leaving AEW, trending after talking about Oba Femi, WWE Smackdown, and much more!  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Connest. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag deep art. Today we're going to talk AEW's wrestle dream. Overbooked, overdone, and over long, but at least it's over. All that and more today. And joining me, Hawaiian Brian the podcasting Lion,

the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. Co-host to you. He's the most over co-host since Arthur Treacher, the great Brian Last, everybody. Aloha, Jim. A pleasure to be here somewhat today. Am I feeling the greatest? But let's get through this. I'm sure talking about the AEW pay-per-view will make me feel a whole lot better. I'm sure you'll get cranked up by the end of this thing.

You're running, I understand, a low-grade fever. That's right. low-grade fevers for people with low morals apparently that's how it works apparently it's not how it works i have pretty high morals well yeah you're you're you're high usually when you exhibited you you got me in trouble i'm gonna mention that in a minute but i'll tell you what i did saturday night october the 12th do you know what i did saturday night october 12th while wrestle dream was going on and on and on and on you watch spangouli I certainly did, which followed a wonderful steak.

I cooked the fillets and the fried scallops on us, so we had to surf and turf. Stacey's mother was still here. It was her last weekend before she goes home. She did her follow-up doctor's appointments, and everything's lovely. And I made the big family dinner, and we had family night, and Harley was perched right up there with us, and we watched the ghost and Mr. Chicken

on Svenguelly and had just a wonderful time. And it took only, we ate dinner, we had, you know, family conversation and watched the entire ghost of Mr. Chicken. And about half the time it took to get through wrestle dreams. So I figure I came out ahead. Did you try to watch that thing live? We're going to talk about it later on, folks, unfortunately. I watched a good deal of it live.

And then I watched a good deal with the next day. A good deal of it. it may still be going on. I couldn't attend. There's no way I'd be able to sit through a show like that. It's just I'd be too tempted to not just go to the concession, it's just go for a walk. They should be like a way you could leave the arena, go around the block a few times and come back. Go see the city.

Something. If they were in New York, you could have gone to the top of the Empire State Building and come back and still not been to intermission. And that's a long line. And you're right. And I counted about half a dozen times where you could have out. Actually, legitimately, if any of this stuff had been real, you could have called the police. That's right. The police or Jim, let's do it together.

The famous police chant. You ready? Tony, help. Ready, ready, ready, ready. That was the one segment on the pay-per-view. I couldn't wait. I was hoping you saw the pre-show. And I couldn't wait to hear what you would say about that because it was stunning for Tony's disheveled look.

the stoicism of the Inoki grandchildren as this is all happening Chavani at his frumpiest worst and no one there knowing this chant and they pulled back and they get the wide shot just so you can feel the awkwardness. Yes, everybody's like, what do we do? What do we do?

And they put the words on the screen that didn't really seem to help and then Tony wants them to keep going and the owner of the company saying, let's do it again and they just play music like it's the Grammys and they're trying to get them off the stage. Remember they did it to like Sinatra? Lifetime Grammy.

Was it the Grammys of the Oscars when they gave Sinatra a Lifetime Award? Oh shit. It was like his last appearance ever on TV, Old Man Sinatra. And he comes up and he gives the big speech and they start playing music to get him off the stage. Well, you know, it was quite vexing to Johnny Carson in the later years of the Tonight Show

when he was contractually obligated, well, he wasn't contracted, but by NBC he had to have Bob Hope on like twice a year to promote the the troop shows or the Bob Hope Christmas special or whatever when Hope was like, I don't know, he lived with almost 100, didn't he? Or was he 100? So he was close to 90 at the time. They say that Carson went from really liking him to hating him. Because, well, the thing that he was deaf, for one that he got deaf to where he couldn't

hear anything. And then he got cranky to where that he didn't want to talk about anything. And he wasn't really being particularly funny. And he was a pain in the ass to get him in and out, you know, for the staff and everything. And it was, but he, Bob Hope at NBC, it was like, you know, goddamn inextricably linked for 50 years. So they had to have him on till the end to promote these things. And Carson was sitting there like, you couldn't have driven a. Ten penny nail up his ass with a sledgehammer, he was waiting to get him off.

I was waiting to get Russell Dream off, but anyway, we'll do that later on, because I got a, I got a bone to pick with you. Is that a helicopter behind you? What was that? No, it's, well, I've been up. I'll tell you what, first of all, it's fucking cold. It's not a denial of the helicopter, by the way. Well, it's not the helicopter.

Yesterday was the helicopter. Today is the engine of a truck that's bringing me mulch, but I've been up since, fucking 5.30 this morning because Harley had a bowel movement that turned into a cleaning and trimming of her. And then it's fucking, it was 40 degree. It might have been 30-something degree. Might have been, you know, I saw frost when I went outside. As a matter of fact, there was three inches of snow this morning.

Now, it was fucking cold, and I had a guy come to look at some work at 8.30. and then I was out there freezing for that and then right before we went on the air I'm still shiverating because the guy came with the load of mulch that he needs to put in with minutes to go so I'm hoping I get cranked up by the end of this show also

how come you're the one that's sick and I've been out in the weather maybe you're immune well there you go there you go ladies and gentlemen I've cured it all I've got good genes But anyway, you got me in trouble. With who?

For what? I trended again on, it was a small trend, not one of these trends for days things that I've do sometimes. But all I've said was that Obafemi's accent sounded like Eddie Murphy in coming to America. And I didn't expect that. And it tickled me to where I couldn't concentrate on anything else because I had no idea that he was going to be talking like that. And then the people on the Twitter,

oh, God, he's horribly racist. Look what he's sad about this. Oh, my God. And it was you that told me to watch Obafemi to begin with. And I remember being mad at that review, because I'm thinking, why is he not taking this guy seriously? He's just going to pick on him for having this accent,

which at the moment I thought was his legitimate accent. Yeah, uh-huh. Uh-huh. But again, I'm not one of the people on Twitter. No, wait, I'm not one of the people on Twitter that was like, he's a racist, kill him. Let's show him that we're better than him by slaughtering him. Whatever the fuck they're saying.

Yeah, well, and also, he didn't wrestle. All he did was come out and talk, so what else am I suppose? I said, he looks great. Yet, my issue was that you wouldn't take him seriously. I'm like, oh, no, he's right away going to find something to nitpick and make fun of the guy and not take him seriously. And, again, he's in a fucking Ms. TV segment. they can't expect too much. But as you saw,

when we just talked about on the previous Proger show, when he actually wrestled, I said, yeah, you got something there. He's got the size, he got the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't say I've never take him seriously again,

and I hated him, and I wanted him to be blasted off to Mars in a rocket ship. However, after all of this outrage, and people go, oh, he's racist, he found the accent was funny. And another thing they said was,

they said, well, they've been saying for a year and a half he's from wherever he's from, and you've had. The whole point of our conversation that we had was that I had never seen this fucking guy. That I had seen his name mentioned on the internet, but I'd neither seen him nor heard him nor watched him wrestle

and didn't know what fuck he looked like. And it's not like if your name is Jacques Rougault, then you expect the guy to be French, right? If your name is Hans Schmidt, you expect the guy to be German. But has anybody ever been named Obafemi? I didn't know whether he was from Switzerland or Swaziland. So there comes the Eddie Murphy accent, but nevertheless, come to find out it's not his real accent.

as ain't Lola you say he's putting it on somebody sent a clip of a couple years ago they're interviewing him one of the backstage interviewers and he's talking like he's from fucking Cleveland did you see that he had a tinge of an accent because again he is from Africa

but he did not sound as over the top dramatic he didn't sound like Eddie Murphy there either I mean that's the other thing he didn't sound vocally like Murphy at all. I thought he did. But nevertheless, the point is, is it more racist to me being, to me be tickled by a guy that I didn't know was going to have an accent and then has an accent and reminds me of a comedic movie? Or is it more racist to put the accent on in the first place? Or is neither racist? I mean, that's the other thing. I mean, if we're going for that, then, is either really Because he is from Africa.

Because the first thing I saw when I went on Twitter that day and I saw, I was like, oh, fuck, why is he trending? We just put up the trending omnibus. Why are we starting the new one? And I went to the check. And the first comment I saw was, this always happens. I'm paraphrasing. This always happens. I'm a black listener and I didn't find it racist at all.

And a bunch of white boys are telling me I should be finding it racist. There are people who just have They want the outrage at anything you say And they look for stuff even when it's not there Again, I disagreed with you Immediately dismissing him Because we see what happens I think this guy's a schmuck

Here's the nickname He's done forever I didn't want that to happen yet I didn't do that Well, why did I give him a nickname? Why how could I give him a nickname When his real name's bad enough Well, that's not his real name

I still think Dabo Kato is the greatest name. He's, I will hear you dabbing on Kato again. I've been laughing about that name. Ever since Shane McMahon popped up in photos again and I had the thought of him running around raw underground yelling, Double Kato! Doppel! It just,

it's the funniest thing of the world to me. And I hope they bring him back and I hope he could have that name. Obafemi, we'll see how it works out, but I thought it was ridiculous. Again, I disagree to all you were saying because I wanted you to give the guy a chance. And then people were

saying that it was, I guess the people were saying it's racist or saying it's because you compared him to another black actor doing a fake accent. Right? Because any Murphy's not from Africa. It was a fake accent. Well, yeah. So I'm trying to figure out how that's racist. Because... Me too. If Obafemi had been doing a French accent, I would have compared him to Paterson. but would that have been racist

because they were because you hate Canada you hate Montreal you're anti-Canadian well no Pat's family was originally from the French homeland see so you know you got to go back far enough but I don't know I don't know what the fucking problem is

but once again thank you all for all of you who did who participated for getting all upset and but as and as you saw Brian I was just yanking your crank also. I gave him a fair review

instead of a rebuke when he actually wrestled and who's the fucking guy Tony DiAngelo? Yeah, no, he came out favorably against the Don. Why don't you make fun of him so I can get the Italian organizations against you?

Come on. I'm, I dare you. Come on. I'm not going to mess with the Italians. Hey, that's anti-Italian. Just saying that. Well, I have no recollection of that incident, Senator. Senator.

Anyway. Senator, Senator last. Wait a minute. Now that's a thought. You can run the investigation into the commission. The commission, huh.

But, yeah, that's the Jim trending segment here on the show. All right, well, thank you. Thank you for taking over because I'm done now with it. But I have an email. Oh, no. And I don't know whether you have seen this email or not, because it was sent to the

to the drive-through channels, but also to the Jim Cornett channels. So maybe, you know, this might be new to you if you haven't seen this yet. But nevertheless, it's from Rob. I don't think he says where he's from. And he includes an article from a website that I've never heard of,

so I will not promote it, not a wrestling website, but just one of these showbiz website. but he also has a picture, and a picture is hard to fucking refute because it is actually a picture of what it's supposed to be a picture of. But anyway, Rob continues, Hi, Jim and Brian. I have a working theory on Vince's egg fascination that I wanted to share with you.

Really? Okay, this is a shocking email. I did not see this, no. You know, remember Vince and the golden egg and the fucking I'm egg, and it's worth $100 million or whatever the case? Guess where I had someone still? this egg. Well, hold on now, cowboy.

You may be tipping it off again. Oh, no. Because recently, former rap mogul and current inmate Shug Knight was interviewed about the whole Sean P. Diddy Combs allegations. I've included a link to an article in the actual interview below. In the interview, Knight pulls no punches. He stated that part of the Diddy Freakoff, modus operandi was to introduce new male members to the scene by inserting a boiled egg up the man's rectum.

If the egg broke, it meant that the individual wasn't ready. I guess this means that their anuses weren't wide enough to be able to accept the many, many schlongs that such a freakoff would entail. this was seen as a sort of initiation into the fraternity of male celebrities and as I understand it this sort of behavior is widespread among NBA players as well a sort of hazing now first of all I don't want anybody fucking tweaking me about oh god damn fucking wrestling people are sadists and horrible perverts because they used to like to fucking goose people that were goosey when they caught them

been over to locker room. If that's the NBA, but next to this. One doesn't excuse the other. Well, goddamn, let's priorities here. We're not doing a goddamn Denny's grand slam breakfast up somebody's ass in the fucking Omni. And for the record, I've never heard this about the NBA, so this is news to me. Well, you're a baseball guy.

I've never heard this about baseball or any organized sports on a major league level that they- Well, they didn't say. regularly stick eggs up the other's ass to get them prepared for them sissy baseball players couldn't take a good hard boiled egg up the ass i'll tell you that but nevertheless let's get back to ditty daddy or puffy or whatever so this is what shug night is saying about daddy ditty and and rob continues shug night is in prison for life i don't think he'd make any of this up Also recently, a picture of Diddy and Russell Brand. Do you know this fucking, you know Russell Brand.

Oh, my God. He was trending this morning because now he's been, I guess, canceled by the left. And then the right also think because of some of his past shit that he's not all there. So he has to go for the fringe people. He's now selling amulets. Amulets that protect you from the internet. No, you know what it is? It's an omelette amulet.

It was fucking trending this morning. I'm not even making it up. He's selling amulets. Russell Brand is, I don't care where he's left, right, in the middle, center, up, down. You know, nobody deserves having to suffer his presence or hear the voice or look at that fucking face, right? But Rob says a picture of Diddy and Russell Brand,

a known Diddy party goer back in the day surfaced online showing Brand and Diddy at a movie premiere from 2012 and the picture is included here what is odd about this is that Brand showed up with an egg no context was given the picture is included for your review

brand is holding a random egg up without any contact there he is with Diddy Daddy and he's like presenting the egg to the camera and he's got a smile a mile wide and he's got a hard-boiled egg at a movie premiere A regular size hardball egg, not a giant gold egg.

No, no, it's a guy. It's a real egg. It's, you know, it's, I think it's a brown egg because he's got a white suit on and it's darker than that. So I think it's one of those brown organic eggs, if that has any meaning for the people in the know. But anyway, Rob finishes up when you consider everything now, given what has come to light, I have a hard time believing that showing up to a party with Diddy holding an egg was

complete happenstance. Probably an inside joke something the Hollywood insider types of these freakoffs would get but nobody else would. What Brand is saying in this picture is, my tender English arsehole is ready for this scene.

So, he poses the question could it be that the Vince Egg angle was simply just another big inside joke meant to pop this world of rich, sexually perverse sociopaths who are wise to the egg game.

What do you think, Brian? This is the first I'm hearing of the egg game, so I don't think that's, uh, I don't think that's likely at all. Well, see, you haven't been invited to play because you're not a billionaire yet. You know, you've got many millions, but you're not a billionaire,

so you, you haven't been invited to play. Russell Brand's not a billionaire. Well, but he's got a tender English arsehole. This is ridiculous. See? Diculous. Puffy got accused of a whole bunch of shit yesterday because there's a lawyer who said that he's representing like over 120 people who have claims against Puffy.

So you hear that, you're like, wow, what's this going to be? Yesterday, like the first six lawsuits dropped. They're each going to sue them individually. And it was women and men, adults, and people who were teens at the time from like the late 90s until a few years ago, just multiple stories that are nuts. I mean, this guy's, I say this guy's fuck. He deserves to get everything he's about to get. I heard some shit back in a day, but nothing like all this.

Well, maybe he was like Vince. Did he go public? Did he sell stocking himself? And Shug Knight hates him, obviously. There's the long history there. But he also- I haven't actually been following their... Oh, yeah. Shug-Night ran death row records.

Death Row back on. Well, I have a working knowledge of that he was the record guy that killed a guy, or whatever and ran over some guy in a parking lot. I don't know each individual person's who's on whose side here and all these things. I was trying to say that. Shug Knight ran. Well, yes, I know you. I'm just saying you don't have to give me his goddamn whole fucking biography.

I know who Shug Knight is. The feud between him and Puffy goes back to like the 90s. And it was in the Republic. Remember, he was with Tupac when Tupac got killed. And then Biggie got killed right after that was Puffy's number one, an earner. and then Puffy used that to make himself a star. And there's always been stories that, you know, I think they're investigating him now for any possible involvement

in any of those shootings. So this guy's been a bad guy for a long time. Who killed Biggie and Baddy and Puffy and Daddy and Shuggy? That should be the title of a goddamn mystery movie. But, Ann, here's another thing. Why would the egg have to be boiled? Because wouldn't it, now think about this, Brian, that's why I'm discounting this story. I don't believe this story.

I think it's just one of these made-up internet things because it would be the opposite. You wouldn't want the guy to be able to withstand the hard-boiled egg. You would want to put a regular egg in it because then if it cracks, then you know that it would be like stirring a rain barrel with a soup spoon or not. See the thing? You'd want the tighter orifice instead of the looser orifice, wouldn't you? Yeah, I don't know. This segment's all you and your fascination with assholes. I'm out of this one. Well, no, I'm not fascinated. I'm just trying to, with logic and common sense, to do some type of fact from fiction about these rumors. Have fun. You went through the emails and this is the email you chose. Well, there was a picture there, documentation to prove that everything he was saying was true. here's that you know one time so we're in memphis me and jimmy hart have an interview on channel 5 it's just for the live

channel 5 audience it's not going on the tape we're at the end of the show and it's where my hair is at stake in the the match between our super team jimmy had been managing bobby etin and i'd been managing duke mire so we put them together eatin and mires the super team with heart and cornet against the Fabulae, because they needed somebody to work with the Fabs for three weeks. And so, and that was the way, by the way, the Fabs beat us in our, in my last match before they sent me to Georgia that summer. But anyway, nevertheless, my hair is at stake. And so on the promo for it for that Monday night on TV Saturday morning, I come out there with an egg. And I'm saying, we're going to shave you fabulous ones as bald as this egg.

and then we're going to crush you. I'm going to squeeze, I'm going to crush the egg on the promo there to make my point, right? Are you with me, Brian? So far. Have you ever taken just a regular egg in your hand and tried to squeeze it

and break it? No, actually, I haven't. And I would bet that most people had, and I hadn't up until that point in time. And it was on live TV in front of 350,000 people in the Memphis metropolitan an area when I discovered that it's harder

than you would think. Because then we're going to crush you and I start squeezing that egg and I'm squeezing harder and hard and it ain't breaking. The thing is, whenever you crack an egg, what do you do? You tap it on the side. You crack the shell and it boom. But that's

a completely different thing physiologically or whatever as pressure on the egg, right? And the egg has kind of an ergonomic design. So I'm squeezing this fucking egg and it's become a parent to Jimmy that, because Jimmy started

cheering me on, crush it, crush it, get it, get it, get it. And I'm squeezing, now Lance is rolling his eyes and it worked out even better than if I'd have planned it this way because the people at home

are thinking, my God, that fucking pussy he can't even crush an egg. And finally I squeeze it and it popped out through my fingers and all the yoke got all over Lance's pants. And I was in there and I threw it down like I'd done something in it. I got torn the phone book in half, right? Oh, fuck.

It's one of those live TV things. What was I talking about? What did Lance say to you when you got the yoke on his leg? Oh, well, remember when they turned a whole 10 pound bag of flour over his head? He didn't. He didn't know that was coming, did he? No, he didn't. But, you know, he got hot at that.

But, you know, this was like occupational hazard. Lance was too nice. And besides the money I was making and the money he was making, he wasn't going to say, hey, give me $20 clean my pants. But don't try to squeeze the egg. Crack it. Now, there's going to be a lot of people in the audience now going to the refrigerator and trying to squeeze an egg to see.

It might be easier now. You know, these chickens, they're not as tough as manly as they used to be. they probably lay thinner eggs now. Well, since this bit laid an egg I'd like to remind everybody that the holiday sale is ongoing at Jimcornad.com.

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marketing ideas. He invented the email blast. He's invented the sale. And now we're combining the two things that he has originated into one as a way to save people even more money for the Christmas season. Are you ready for this? No. You're supposed to say yes. He has come up with the idea to have email blasts about a sale. And here's what we're going to do. Right now, if you go to Jim Cornett.com, If you're already a Cornett's collectibles customer, we got you in a system. But if you want to sign up, you go to Jimcoronet.com and go down to the bottom of the home page and it says sign up for newsletter and you put your email address in there.

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Autographed by me. Again, he's a marketing genius, Brian. I mean, no, but he's a genius convincing you of this crap. Well, I mean, look at these revolutionary ideas he comes up with. He ought to be working for... For Seth Rollins, the same amount of revolution got going on over there. Well, no, I'm afraid that they're going to steal Hotchkiss away at some big retailer like Sears and Roebuck or J.C. Penny. Really?

Maybe even Stewart's dry goods. I just saw an article, the last Kmart in America is closing. Can Walmart follow? Have you been to Walmart? Do you know how awful it is? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Can Walmart follow and close all their stores? Probably not.

They got all the Kmart business. If there are 4,000 Walmart stores, there are only 3,800 Walmart employees. Because all I see when I go in there are fucking customers. And everybody, hey, where in this goddamn 40-acre grain silo? Do you have the chickpeas? it's it's it's it's it's it's annoying i don't like to besides that the walton family has enough money we can't trust these billionaires with any more money shop at your your local

mom and pop stores and give mom the money and take the the bag from pop and be on your way all right well let's be on our way it's your show okay well in that case let's talk about smackdown you want to oh no uh Okay. Well, just to get it over with. No, the October 11th Smackdown from Greenville, South Carolina, not the Memorial Auditorium, they tore that place down. And again, I got to be honest with you, it's like they know they don't really need to try.

I'm going through my notes here. They don't really need to try, so they just kind of put it out there and it moves. at a glacial pace. But they're selling out and they're setting records and everybody's over. It's a tolerant society today in America, Brian. Well, at WWE shows it is. Well, these must be all the most tolerant people then, because I'll tell you. With money.

And at the ticket prices. Good Lord, to spend this much money, to get in one of these shows, general admission used to get you two strippers. from the mouse's ear all night long. It's amazing how inflation affects the most bizarre things. Okay. I don't know what you want me to say to that. Let's go from the mouse's ear to the horse's bottom.

To Greenville, South Carolina. They did the bad blood recap, and here came Jimmy Uso to do an in-ring promo, and they chant Uso, Uso, and welcome back, welcome back. and I got to be honest I think Jimmy's a better promo than Jay now because Jay's got the yeat thing I know but God damn it's hard to follow anything with all the yeating but he told a story very simply

six months on the shelf I was put there by my little brother solo and I'm going to kick his ass tonight and he's got personality and he got the points cross and he was more economical with the time than some of the other folks are. But then when he says that, Roman reigns his music plays, and he gets a big pop,

and slow walk and big milk. And I liked this the segment here, because Roman as a baby face is still being Roman, but he's changing things up. He recognizes or acknowledges other people. They did the little, interplay where

Roman holds his hand out and Jimmy hands him the mic but then later on Jimmy holds his hand out and Roman just slapped it and continued on their family but he asked the people to acknowledge instead of

acknowledging me join me acknowledge him Big Jim so is he going to be Big Jim Usso now? Hopefully not Campy no way and a big Jim Wilson and probably still fucking sue him

for something like that. But anyway, Roman tells Jimmy, I'm not an older brother, I'm not a wise man, but I'm a tribal chief, I take what's mine, and I don't like where we're at right now. We had it all.

We had the money, the power, the respect, the titles, and now it's all out of our control. So I want everybody know that the goats are here, that we are the ones. And Jimmy said, yeah, but we're not, though. And then the fans chat, yes, you are, yes, you are. Now the fans chanting are arguing with the, I mean, it's like these people are trained

and they've got a script when they walk in the door. They're watching so closely and they're paying attention to everything. They know what to chant before they know what's going on. Anyway, Jimmy, I see a chief with no tribe, no Ulafala. and I came back because you needed me and we need help and I know one person that we can get help from and the people are yeat, yeat, yeat

and Romans know yeat and I can't believe I'm saying these words and Jimmy say you're my tribal chief but I'm the only one in the family that still acknowledges you and he walks out and leaves Roman thinking so I mean if you take out the entrances and the fans chanting and singing along,

there's like three or four minutes of content here, maybe, but they get a 20-minute segment out of it because everybody's so fucking over and so interesting. And that was the open. It really doesn't give you that much, just a little bit, and they've kind of mastered giving you a little bit, and it's enough until, you know, something else will happen on the show. That's the, uh, the bloodline.

That's really the bloodline revolution in terms of the W.W.E. show, just the pacing of how long it takes to get from one point to another. And you think that should they call it Smackdown now, or should they call it just the tip? We're just a little bit in there. I'll tell you, the secret is the two hours. I watched Raw this past week. Two hours? So much powerful. Yes. Yes. You're willing to give, you know, something a halfway decent chance.

if you know that it's not going to take longer than the director's cut of intolerance like the pay-per-view we have to talk about. But anyway, and then on Smackdown, there was an L.A. Knight U.S. title versus Carmelo Hayes. I'm sure it was fine.

When they give L.A. night, somebody on top to work with, but this was a title match and a good win for L.A. night. And I swear to God, They're getting me interested in this thing with Owens and Cody. Because at first, maybe it's the bait and switch. Here came Jakara Jackson and Lash Legend to make their entrance.

And suddenly, Kevin Owens rolled in the ring from the other side and interrupted and had a microphone. I'm sorry to interrupt. I was told not to come here tonight. People are asking why I turned on Cody Rhodes. I know all the wrestling fans know, but does anybody in, when friends have a fight or an argument or a disagreement or whatever,

one stabs the other in the back in public, just in normal society, does anybody say, so-and-so turned on me? You're thinking about it. No, I've never heard that. I've never heard anyone use turning on in regular conversation.

I mean, it used to be locker room. Yeah, we're going to have so-and-so turn-and-so, on so and so and then everybody in the wrestling bubble got smart but anyway it just it just struck me there i'm like fuck i get you know he's preaching to the choir here but wouldn't it have been more natural people are asking why i you know fucking stabbed cody in the back something like that that everybody would anyway but then cody oh that's when the agents came out and they

cut his microphone, which was good because if it was a shoot, they would have. So he rolled out to the desk and grabbed the headset off of Hoosie what's he and said, Cody Rhodes turned on me. People think I'm the one in the wrong for this. And again, he said, Cody Rhodes stabbed me in a back or whatever, but nevertheless. So here comes Cody taking his jacket off and Owens rolls in the ring and the agents and security get in between them. and here comes Orton out, he's trying to hold Cody, he's trying to get in front of Owens.

And then as he's got Owens from behind, like, come on, come on. Owens elbowed Orton, bam in the face. And he kind of, he sold that and he, he spun Owens around and bugging, boom, and nailed him. And down went Owens, and the people start chanting Randy. And then Owen stared at Orton. and he rolled out and left kind of like shocked

but and Orton was in the ring appearing contrite. So I like the way they're doing this where you haven't actually even seen the footage of the parking lot thing unless you were on social media but now that they've talked about it I would think anybody that is interested would have seen it and they're still trying to keep the idea that this is unauthorized that they're not promoting it. And it's a different approach for once.

Yeah, I think that Cody Owen stuff is interesting, and I think this episode specifically made it a whole lot more interesting. And the thing is, with Orton, you know, because I said I didn't think they would turn Owens on Cody because I thought it might take the bloom off the rose when they did it with Orton eventually. but now with Orton kind of being sucked into this and getting pickled in the face or whatever

it might give him more ammunition when he finally does and that's a WrestleMania main event or SummerSlam or whatever the big show it may be where he's like look I even tried to help you with fucking Owens and all I got for it was punched in the fucking face or whatever so let's see where it's going but at least it's more interesting than

than if Owens had just come out there and kicked him in the balls on television. We've kind of seen that a lot here and let. Well, not just from Owens, but from everybody. Anyway, then unfortunately, they still had Lash and Jakara against Bianca and Jade. And I think Bianca and Jade won.

But in the back, they had Aldous talking to Orton and Cody and Orton's telling Cody get on the bus forget about us, put the blame on me no, he said get on the bus, I'm going to talk to Owens I'll straighten this out

and Aldous had the again the great line Randy Orton, the voice of reason who'd have thought the level headed one in all this. All righty, now we can came to the 9 o'clock hour, yes, that's all that was in the first hour, pretty much. And then we had the entrance of the refrigerator,

the woman's champion, Nea Jacks, and Tiffie Stratton. And there were more guest stars in this than in a, you know, that's entertainment part two. They're getting all these women mad at each other. Brian, can you keep track of who's on whose side here now and who's the who we're supposed to be cheering for? Yeah, I don't think it's that confusing. Well, but see, now it's going to be heel versus heel

because it's going to be Live versus Fridge at Crown Jewel and Live has Raquel, but the fridge has Tiffy, but they're all heels, but Rhea is mad at Live and is going to have to go through Raquel to get to live and that means that Rhea is probably going to be on the wrong side of Tiffy and fridge and blah, blah, blah. And basically what we had here was the fridge says she's going to annihilate Live at Crown Jewel and then Tiffany can cash in on her. And then Naomi came out and started cutting a promo.

I don't know why. I didn't pay attention. And then Liv and Raquel and Dominic came out and cut more promo. And then they went to the break and then. came back with a refrigerator against Naomi where Liv interfered and Naomi won. And then Rhea came out and leveled Raquel and booted Nia and got on Liv and chased Dominic.

And that 30 seconds was the best part of it, but it was preceded by that whole thing was 20 minutes long from start to finish by the time they went through the break and everything. We should have the Helix sleep commercial here, shouldn't we? That was a thought. am I keeping you up? There's nothing to say.

I don't know what to say about any of this that you're saying. I don't know what to say about what you're saying. I mean, that was a segment. I mean, there's nothing to really critique one way or the other about it. Yeah, but anyway, so in the back, where all the action happens, that's where it all hangs out, the street prophets and Gargano and Same Face

were arguing amongst themselves with Nick Aldous, suffer, their presence when suddenly he sees a commotion and he runs over and calls for security we need security now no no Owens is kicking a shit out of Owen into parking lot or Owen Owens is kicking the shit out of Orton Owens and Orton

and Owens is the one that is kicking the shit out of Orton and Orton is the one who is having the shit kicked out of him and then all the security runs out they must employ every indie wrestler in the United States as security. And Orton is down and Owens has taken off for higher ground. And so you just know that Orton's going to have to do something about that, don't you? Well, we shall see. I mean, this is Owens' goodbye to the company.

I guess he's going to, you know, eventually, I guess Orton and Cody both have to get their comeuppets. or have to give him his comeuppance, I guess. Which one gets to beat him up first now? That's going to be interesting. And then what if he gets him over a barrel where he's got heat on the champion and one of the other top guys, and they got to give him $10 million to stay.

And it'd be an updated version of Jeff Jared holding Vince up at SummerSlam. I don't think it would be 10 million. I'd probably be in like in the, I think it would probably be in like the six million. range. Well, per year or an aggregate now? Per year. If you want to deal with, if you want to deal with what Tony's going to be offering, I'd say you have to start in a six million range. Boy, I tell you. For an Owens? Yeah, without question. And if, oh, you know what, if Kevin Owens does go to

AEW, then I believe we will see, finally see the institutionalization of Tony Con. Because we've established that he, it didn't Uncle Dave say he works 19 hour days and he's doing the football and he's doing the fucking wrestling and he's doing the statistics and he's you know just the bell of the ball as much time as

Kevin Owens takes up of the Booker or the office in general's time to listen to his long drawn out complaints ideas pitches statements on the way things ought to be whatever the fuck, it will put Tony Kahn over the edge.

Anyway, and then we were at the main event. Solo, the little brother versus Jimmy Uso, the big brother. Of course, the Tongas, the various Tongas, and Jacob Fatu were in Solo's corner, and they even showed the video of last April when Solo put Jimmy out of action in case we missed it to bring us up to date in some kind of coherent way and then they have the match

Brian This is with like the old fucking routine on the I Love Lucy show when she was dressed up as Harpo Marx and they did the mirror bit because both of these guys they're brothers and they're both trying to work

like all the other Samoans and every single Samoan is doing those open-handed punches like that we can't see that they're open hands and even Jacob is doing it and it drives me to distraction but this was like a guy working with himself

both of them work kind of the same way and they're sloppy in the same ways so the story carried this it was not what one would call an accomplished technical masterpiece did you get that opinion

yeah I mean I don't think of either guy as a technical wizard in there. And I think for either of the Uso's, it's all about the emotion more than the actual work in the match, or whatever you want to call it, and maybe the same for Solo. I just hope Jacob doesn't get in

too many more of these bad habits because, you know, uh, anyway, Jimmy Uso made the big comeback, Fatu, nailed Tonga, Samoan dropped solo, and got a two count. And then he went up to the top

and Jacob crouched him and solo hit the spike one, two, three. So I was like, well, fuck, that was fairly succinct. But then the heels got on Jimmy and Roman's music played and Roman came out and nailed everybody.

And then he got in the fight with solo where Fatu could come from behind and Fatu beat up Roman Rains and Moonsaulted. Uso and solo spiked Roman and the heels carried the day there. So again, poor old Roman and poor old

Jimmy there were outnumbered so they got to get more blood. They got to get Jay back, whether Roman wants to eat or not, and they got to get some more bloodline. Well, that was Smackdown. Survivor series is coming up, isn't it? With Raw being two hours,

Raw's taken over as the better show, I think. Yeah, well, because of the, in some cases, the talent involved, in some cases, you know, that they're not yeating as much, I don't know. You know, right now at the present time, I'm curious where everything's going to go with the bloodline stuff,

but I'm more into the Live Ria Ripley feud, actually. I just want to, you know, see what's going to go on. with this double champion thing in Saudi Arabia, with Cody and Gunther, I hope they do something that, you know, and they probably will, that doesn't hurt either guy, but that's going to be intriguing.

And I'm thinking that might be the best match, too, because you got Gunther and you got Cody. Cody can sell and Gunther can kick the shit out of people. And when is Survivor Series? That's a good question, because I think AEW will be a full gear. is the 23rd, I want to say, and that's... But the Saudi Arabia is November 2nd.

Ken, is there a weekend in the month that is not of November? It's not going to have a big pay-per-view? Saturday, November 30th, 2024, 630 p.m. Oh, Christ. So we shouldn't make any plans on the second or the 23rd or the 30th to wash our hair or anything. You think a wrestling pay-per-view could work nowadays on a... actual Thanksgiving?

I mean, Survivor Series originally was on Thanksgiving opposite Starcade. That's why it was created. Yeah. And then it was the Thanksgiving night tradition for a few years. And then they just moved it off Thanksgiving. There's obviously a reason for that. Do you think it would work nowadays if there was any kind of, and again, pay-per-view is a different animal?

Well, yeah, you don't even need to pay-per-view it. Will people watch peacock on Thanksgiving? That is all do people need to know if they'll watch peacock on Thanksgiving. but then you got to get all the guys to work on Thanksgiving. And it's been... You know what? That is the difference. Yeah, you're right.

Everybody in the wrestling business above every other day of the year wanted to work two days of the year, Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day, because that was going to be in most territories, the biggest... It wasn't really in Tennessee because they were a weekly territory

and never established it. But in most territories, that was your biggest days of your biggest weekends or your biggest weeks of the year and everybody wanted the payoff. But that's when you lived in the territory and if you were in Charlotte, you were an hour and a half from Greensboro

or if you lived in Atlanta, you were there. Or if you were in Florida, you lived in driving distance or any other territory pretty much. Now it would be flying people in from all over the goddamn country, on Christmas Day, which probably wouldn't wouldn't be popular

with the young folks these days. What if you did a... I was going to say, they're making so much money now. I was going to say, what if you give them a bonus? It would have to be a big bonus to make it worth that.

What are you going to hear? Here's a house. Just work an extra day this year. Work one holiday. I'll buy you a house. What the fuck? I eat Christmas dinner. I think it was three years a row in a row

at the same waffle house off of I-85. in South Carolina because we were on the way from Greenville, South Carolina in the afternoon to the Omni that night. Two shows on Christmas Day.

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mintmobile.com slash JCE. Some people, you have their number as soon as they walk in the door. All righty, well, we're not going to need to use the phone for this because we can discuss it right here amongst us right now. Apparently disaster is struck. A.E.W. is down a member of the multi-person creative input committee or whatever they call their goddamn writing staff over there

apparently poor old Jimmy Jacobs has said I'm burnout I need to get away from this or am I overstating this case or what are what are the facts as we know them Brian well there are very little actual facts I guess that are firmly out there other than Jimmy Jacobs how many how many how many factual acts are there in AEW I don't know but Jimmy Jacobs

has left AEW. Jimmy Jacobs, we had heard, was basically Tony Kahn's right-hand man. He went everywhere with Tony. No wonder he was burnout. Brian Danielson was the one who recommended him. And Jimmy Jacobs is someone who a lot of people have looked at as maybe not one of the people that would help with creative problems, but maybe someone who his creative input may go a different way than the way other people would think about things.

Well, but who are those other people thinking about those things? Because what I heard, what I heard on the interweb, so it must be true, was that, well, Jimmy Jacobs was somebody who didn't see them pushing Daniel Garcia at the level they were pushing him at. And I was like, ah, a voice of reason, a beacon of sanity. See, that's the problem. And there's a few things here, but specifically with the things that have come out that we'll talk about the list. For everything that you're like, okay, I can understand that. There's another thing you're like, oh, it's him.

You know, for instance, I have a list here. This was very public. It went around. According to the image, this was taken from a Twitter space made by the Russell Purist crew on Twitter spaces. Well, if they're purists, then they must be reporting the facts. Jimmy Jacobs was Tony Kahn's right-hand man from 2023. It took a year for fucking Tony to break him.

Was a big reason for the rankings going away? Remember they had the ranking system? Yes, that never was really used for anything of importance or made a lick a sense and pretty much you went away. Came and went a couple times, right? Didn't it go away once and then it came back briefly? It liked fungus on a shower curtain. Jimmy Jacobs had no idea who Kazushka Okada was.

Say, okay, I'm sorry. I don't believe that. I don't believe it either. Let me just say that before we get to this list, let me say, I'm not just talking about somebody that I've worked with Jimmy Jacobs and he was in Ring of Honor when I was there. I've known him, haven't talked to him in some time. The last time I saw him was at the Hall of Fame. He was working for the W.W.E. in 2017.

Remember why he was fired? because he took a picture with the young bucks. With the elite. When the elite showed up at Raw outside, he took a picture with him. But the point is that I was going to make as to addressing that, Jimmy Jacobs has always been a fan of wrestling

and into the wrestling business. And not only has he been on the Indies for much of his career, but he did work in the WWE. He knows who. He doesn't know who. you know, Freddy the for for fucking Poughkeepsie

Championship Wrestling is maybe, but he knows who Okada is. I mean, that, I'm just saying that right there is a ridiculous statement. Yeah, he worked for TNA too. I mean, he worked for T&A too. I mean, he worked for T&A. And Okada, I don't know if they were there at the same time, but Okada worked there also, remember?

But he was active in the modern business. You hear the name Okada. There's no way it's impossible. I don't believe that. And so, and also, with Jimmy. He was a good worker, but he was another guy that wasn't blessed with size. I don't, and I'm not either blessing or cursing his booking ability or ideas. I've never worked with him in a capacity where he was in the office or was booking or producing or whatever, except for, as I said, the Hall of Fame ceremony where they gave

all the presenters, producers, that's hard to say. and he came up to him and he said well can I go over your speech I said well I don't have one as I showed him the two pages of my block printing shorthand bullet notes that I had and he said well you know don't thank Vince I said I didn't plan on it because he didn't have anything to do with the rock and roll express but otherwise I said Jimmy I won't do anything to get you in trouble I won't say anything to get heat on you but I don't know what I'm going to say till I go out there and we had a nice That's the last time I've seen him. So he could be crazy as a rainbow trout in a car wash, or he could be the next coming of

Eddie Graham. But I'm going to give my honest opinion when I say some of these things may not add up. But it would now go ahead. And I'll just say, I was never a fan of his in Ring of Honor. He was one of those guys I never got. I never got like the universe around him and, you know, the, there was certainly a milieu to the Jimmy Jacobs arc over the years. never got into it at all.

And it possibly may be he's a little on the spooky entertainment side, but nevertheless. In this company, he may have been the voice of reason. Well, back to this alleged list, or, well, there is a list, but the list of alleged things. Jimmy Jacobs was not familiar with AEW programming before coming in, nor did he like it, apparently.

And this is 2019 to 2022 AEW. Wait a minute, I've never had Ruta Begas, I hate them. How can both of those things be true? Either he wasn't familiar with it or he didn't like it. Yeah. Okay. I mean, there's no other option there, but here you go, one for the negative column. Jimmy Jacobs was responsible for the Learning Tree Program.

He created, if not Jericho. This is the way it's worded here. He created, if not Jericho. Oh, I guess they put a period when there should be a comma. Every single learning tree segment was Jimmy Jacobs. And they say that he was the one, I guess the word has always been that he was the one who came up with the list for Jericho and WWE before he left with Kevin Owens. So you're saying he's 50-50 then? I'm saying he has a history of working with Chris Jericho on really cheesy shit, one that kind of got over with the WWE.

crowd of eight years ago and one that is brutally awful on TV right now. I'm not, I'm not poo-pooing the idea he had something to do with it, but I think a lot of the, I don't know if you could have talked Jericho into doing this if he wasn't wholeheartedly on board. So I think the blame should go around. Well, Jimmy Jacobs is being blamed for full gear, 2023. What happened there? The main event and how it was booked, which everyone has.

hated. What was it? Hold on. Let me go back to that. Jeff, Jeff. Full gear, 2023. Like what? Do these people have this committed to memory? Like, they're goddamn, you know, that we could have used them instead of the Navajo Code Talkers in World War II if they've got a memory like that. Full Gear, 2023, which was less than a year ago. That's crazy. November 18, 2023. The main event was MJF defeating Jay White. good Lord well I mean the result is you know obviously the only thing they could do but what is everybody upset about just that they had that fucking

stinky match in the first place well again if he's responsible for the main event and how it was booked which everyone has that mean the weeks leading up to it where Jay White actually pinned MJF on TV which made no sense I fuck forgot about that I don't know I see again we don't know exactly what this means but here's another one for your column Jimmy Jacobs did not want to push Daniel Garcia. Found it laughable when it came to pushing Daniel Garcia.

I mean, well, there again, you know, can't argue with that. And he's 5'7, so I would listen to him. Well, with Garcia, it's not even just about size. It's just about, boom, he's a lump of cold clay. Jimmy Jacobs was opposed to having Takesha win the latter match for the TNT, title. Who'd he beat? Did he win that match?

I don't know. I don't remember the match. When was the match? I don't know. These are horrible offenses. I expect to hear, Jimmy Jacobs was the one that thought it was a good idea

to burn a motherfucker's house down. Jimmy Jacobs was the one that thought it was a good idea to stick a fucking hypodermic needle in somebody's face. That's grounds for get this motherfucker out of here, but so far

I haven't seen any or heard anything that rates more than a stern tongue lashing at best. Other grounds may be turning Chris Jericho into a tree, but let me go back to this list here. According to the people that posted this, they were comparing Jimmy Jacobs

leaving to Vince leaving. What? Creative wise. What? Okay. Um, was it not long ago that Tony Kahn said, oh, we got to

about, I thought, was the number bandied about 27? We got a lot of people that have input in the various things creatively. And it was a high number. They hired Alexander Pepper Day. They hired Will Wheaton.

They've... Will Washington. Whatever. They've already got all of the other producers or agents or whatever that they've signed that whether or not they have any power is suspect

because you would think that some of these people would try to throw their bodies in front of some of the things that are presented on television. But Tony's, and then the top guys, and even the medium guys. So all these people, when you've got that, you've got chaos. You have a bunch of people giving ideas, but Tony Kahn, famous for the quote, at least on the phone with me,

nobody's going to write my television but me. Tony Kahn is the Vince McMahon of that world I'm sorry I threw up a little of my mouth saying that but he's got the final say and if he obviously he's writing a lot of the TV or elsewise we wouldn't be seeing a hologram but even if it's not his idea

he has to put it in what do people think happens do they think you know it's like a WC Fields or a May West movie where the script says next six pages to be supplied by fucking Jimmy Jacobs

and they just let him do whatever he wants with whoever he wants. Here's the problem with multiple people giving ideas. It doesn't create discussion. It creates arguments and goddamn confusion. I've booked by myself, I've booked

with a handful of people and I've been a part of bigger booking committees and the more people you put in, the more opinions you put in, the more ideas you put in and the more conflicting ideologies you put in, the more difficult it is to get anything through in an unobstructed fashion, which is why many times the most artistic motion pictures are directed by, written by and starred in a certain fucking guy because it's all one vision

and at least it makes sense from start to finish. Whereas when you, by the time you open it up, when it was me and Kevin Sullivan working with Rick Flair, we were three different people with three different ideas about a lot of things in wrestling, but the same concept and a mutual fucking understanding of what the actual goddamn business is in general. But then when you added Jim Ross, well, there's another opinion.

Maybe he liked different guys. He was in the office more, so he was also listening to Jim Hurd and trying to please him. But then you add Jody Hamilton, and then you put Oli in there, or Terry Funk, and then Jim Barnett, and then Hurd's going to be heard. and then nothing gets done because everybody has a different way to do it. The more people, what happens when, Brian, you're a wrestler on the roster

and you're up far enough on the car that you believe you can go and tell Tony, hey, I think we ought to do this. Well, there's your first problem. Well, but I'm just saying.

And then you've come up with this goddamn, because I've had guys come and pitch me these long, drawn out, They've got synopsuses and things typed out and week one, week two, and people who have submitted, like they think, that is writing to them, the wrestling writing. And they've got, you know, like fucking hand gestures and emotions written out. And they want to do, you want to do this idea that you're pitching a Tony with me.

But Tony wants me to work with the other guy. but that other guy, he's pitching Tony an idea that he wants to work with you. If everybody's not working together, if they're working independently, then they've all got ideas for who they want to work with, and there's a bunch of overlap. And then, even if you get your program with so-and-so, if he's just come off a program where he was beaten like a government mule and made look like a piece of shit,

then your program may be great, but you're doing it with a piece of shit. And again, you need one guy at the top administering all of this, and if he gets a number of ideas from competent, level-headed, experienced people, that's great. But if he gets dozens of ideas,

not only from writers but from wrestlers that want to be involved with this, that, and the other guy, then you've got a fucking mess. Then if this guy's working against that guy, the other guy that wanted to work with this guy is going to want to interject himself in there or else why he'll look weak, and it just becomes chaos.

So to blame Jimmy Jacobs or any other individual for the gang bang of a booking scenario here, a gang bang of a booking team that Tony has assembled underneath him is ridiculous. Not only can one guy leaving not make a major change in that creative

unless it's Tony Kahn, they could fill up a fucking minivan and run it off a bridge and it wouldn't make a discernible difference. Yeah, you see, and that could all be true with Jimmy Jacobs also being guilty of having bad ideas. Yes. And Jimmy Jacobs was traveling with Tony.

I mean, as one of the rumors going around, I'll get back to the end of this list, one of the rumors going around that I don't believe it just because he was traveling with Tony, one of the rumors is the reason it happened so abruptly is he's on the no-fly list. He had some sort of incident on a plane where he yelled at someone,

and now he can't fly. Was he the one doing the yelling? Maybe so. But again, I thought he was flying with Tony Kahn, so that would, I don't know if the no-fly list applies to private. No, if you own your own plane, you can transport the fucking embalmed corpse of Adolf Hitler around if you want to. Oh no, I think that's smuggling and a whole bunch of other problems there too, but it depends on what it is, but again, that's just a rumor, but what do you said before? But if Jimmy Jacobs did have a bunch of bad ideas, it's still Tony Kahn's fault? For doing them. It's exactly it. Tony Khan is the problem.

And Tony Khan will put his foot down more with agents and people who want input on the creative more than he will any of the talent. And you made a mistake before because you said if you're a top talent and you're able to go in there and picture things to Tony, that's the problem right there. That's why I jumped in. Top talent, of course. They've always had that kind of relationship with the promoter. And in AEW, you got to figure Moxley, Danielson, MJF, maybe Osprey, Omega when he's around.

These are guys that should and do, more than likely, have direct access to Tony. Yeah. And can do or not do what they want. The issue is when it's not main event people, and they could just go into Tony and say, this will not make me happy, I don't want to do this. And that's where as a booker... I will not be amused. As a booker and as a promoter, as the showrunner, he doesn't put his foot down.

He'll put his foot down and let people know that he's running the creative. But if the talent's upset, he will change everything on the fly. So I think that's part of the issue. Jimmy Jacobs may be responsible for some bad stuff on the show, but Tony Kahn is the one putting everything on the show. Tony Kahn is the one who gets the blame for all the creative. But to end this list, Jim, according to this, Uh-oh.

Jimmy Jacobs was Dynamite's top writer. Okay. According to this, an AEW talent... That right there is enough to get you banned from polite society, but... According to this, an AEW talent was listening anonymously to this conversation, and essentially agreed to all of it. And then a small note, the talent noted that Pepperman has never watched AEW before she came on too,

but is seen as a positive force. Oh, good Lord. Due to her improvements for the women's division. Oh, okay. Well, why did you just read that part first? Because if anybody thinks that not only has the women's division in AEW improved with the addition of Alexander Pepper Day and her friend Mercedes Moon, doesn't that pretty much shoot holes in their credibility a mile wide?

Does improve just mean you got more TV time? Well, that doesn't necessarily, then that wouldn't be improved. That would just be elongated. It's not improving at all. So who knows what to think about what these people think? Can you imagine spending a year trailing Tony Con? And that means, it doesn't just mean. Only if I was working for the DEA.

It's not just going with him everywhere, it's his hours. If Tony wants to talk creative at three in the morning, I would imagine you have to be woken up to talk to him at three in the morning to reinforce his ideas or trying to find a gentle way to talk him down. So Tony Kahn was able to take a guy that's been a pro wrestler for 20 years and kept that schedule and burn him out in a year. Hey, whatever happened to that Lacey? wasn't she involved with Jimmy Jacobs?

Lacey Von Eric? No, the Was she a wrestler? Oh, the valet. Ressler and valet. There was a valet of wrestling named Lacey. Yeah, that was... Ballet of wrestling, yeah.

Yes, that was the valet of wrestling. V-O-W. Yes, that was in Ring of Honor years ago. I don't remember any details. What do you think about the fact that with the news of Jimmy Jacobs leaving right before the paper view that you did see so much coming out

that it appears was coming from the AEW locker room in terms of complaints about him that as soon as it happened that these started coming out you know I don't know that's weird that kind of reaction what do you think that's a thing that made me think that me and Jimmy Jacobs might get along

because if that locker room was complaining about him he was probably saying slow down quit trying to fucking kill people why are you trying to push these miscellaneous indie characters, any of that stuff, maybe that's what he was saying. That's why he became unpopular in the locker room. I mean, we can't tell because none of these people are really reliable or unimpeachable sources. Jimmy Jacobs caused people to say, I missed the days where QT wrote to TV with Tony.

Yeah, again, the more I hear things like this, the more I think he was saying, What the fuck are you crazy? Why would you want to do that? Aye, aye, aye. But I find it hard to fault Jimmy Jacobs, the more that I hear about this, but I'm still open as more information comes out, we will keep the people apprised. And apparently things should look different from here on out.

If it's like Vince Levin, they'll encounter a major renaissance, they'll start setting all-time gate records, or they won't. On that topic real quick, did you hear the audio that the Meltzer says what Twitter account put out there? I don't have it handy. If you wanted, I can get it, but I don't even have it handy. I thought maybe you'd heard it. Of Dave Meltzer the other night saying, I have it. I came up with the idea of what can help AEW.

They got to start running dynamite in smaller buildings. Ha ha, ha, ha. Yes, I hurt you. What? you just came up with this? You came up with this? He, you know, he's like, you get on Hotchkis feather bottom,

you say he tries to take credit for people's ideas. But yeah, Dave said, oh, well, they ought to run smaller buildings and seat like 2,500 and fill them up. That would be a better atmosphere. Wow, what an earth-shattering, revolutionary type of idea if only someone had thought of it much before. literally every single thing it keeps happening every single thing that we poked at and pointed out

and we were told that we were wrong and out of touch you specifically it takes a while but eventually one by one each one of these things Meltzer's come around it seems like he can't avoid it he can't ignore it anymore and well now he brings it out so that he can try to counterbalance it with positive stuff or explain it a way or make it seem not so bad, but you can't ignore anymore that the emperor has no clothes and he's showing the world is Willie. See, that's the one thing that Dave still hasn't said

and it comes back to this Jimmy Jacobs conversation. Unless you're willing to come out and say Tony can't book and not pussyfoot around the idea that Tony can't run the company. Because you're still, like, Dave's like making excuses. Like, oh, you know, he works long days and he has all these things. but then he stopped short of saying he should stop doing this with AEW own it, back it,

still throw all your money at it, but find someone and I don't know who, maybe the first person won't work, but find someone, someone else. Even that will give you a goodwill with the fans if they announced that Tony was stepping down. Yeah, you don't hear the warm applause and affection when Tony comes out and starts screaming wide-eyed

like a maniac like you did when he first, started coming out and doing that. I think they're starting to feel a little awkward about him. Yeah. I can't. Well, you brought it up earlier, Kevin Owens, Kevin Steen. We talk about wrestlers getting access to Tony and being able to change things because they're not happy.

Oh, good Lord. He invented that. That was, he started that. He is the poster boy, patient zero. This could be good. But anyway, yeah. So Tony's schedule, and that's the thing you mentioned, and then I'll throw it back to you,

but Uncle Dave, he will stop short of saying Tony just don't do this anymore because he knows that will create the irreparable rift rather than just, well, he's got a lot on him and he's so many demands on his time and blah, blah, blah. Only did it best when he closed down the fucking Georgia wrestling superstars. A few simple words, don't do this any. more. What's that, only? Any of it. That's what they need to tell Tony. Anyway, what are you telling the people over there on the fine Arcadian Vanguard network this week?

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Well, I guess the time has come, Brian, that we have got to expose ourselves and the... innocent public at large to the virus that was disseminated over the weekend from Washington State. You know, these things often come from highly forested areas and they spread across it.

Everybody's got a case of the wrestling OD. We got to do the wrestling Narcan thing. At some point, it's going to be necessary here in the future to the poor guy's sitting there. He's watching this stuff and all of a sudden, he goes over, his wife goes, gets the wrestling narcan, does the what was that, was the pulp fiction

fucking boom. Right in a chest in the sternum area and revives him from the wrestling overdose of how much of this shit can you fucking process with your brain intact before your wiring short circuits. Then we need to call the electrician over here, put somebody in the walls

to fix the wiring. you know what, at least this event, and I hope to God you watched some of the pre-show, at least, at least this event had moments that, for me at least, I hated. I really hated this show, but I couldn't wait to hear what you were going to say and to talk to you a little bit about it because it was a dazzling display of all things AEW. It's like therapy. You were waiting to talk to me. We have to say, and the listeners, we're bringing the kids.

called to Cornett in here too. If any of you saw it and you were traumatized, you got post-traumatic pay-per-view syndrome, and then sit in a circle with us. And let's talk about it because there's so much my God, the Bible

doesn't have this much violence and attempted murder. For heaven's sake, you don't want children to be exposed to stuff like that, do you? The Bible at AEW wrestling? There's a whole goddamn people's being wiped out here by this stuff.

Is already these people insured? I don't even know where you're going. No, I'm just, the goddamn mayhem and the ridiculous risk of injury and whether attempted and worked or attempted in a shoot. And the people that are just inches away from just sucking soup through a straw, right? and I wonder are any of these people insurable? And they're doing it to themselves. It's everybody gets to do what they want night at that romper room.

That's what I've said. I've never seen anything. I can't say that the show where they set the fucking guy on fire with the flamethrower was more excessive than this. Can you? You're right about that. No one in AEW has ever told what to do without having the opportunity to tell Tony they're not happy with it and have Tony trying to make them happy

and change everything. That's a real thing and that was completely on display on this pay-per-view, which was multiple people just masturbating all over themselves on pay-per-view. And not even people you'd really want to watch do such a thing as that. As A. Lola used to say, such a thing is that. I mean, only Chivani seemed to enjoy watching whatever these guys are doing. He's Oh, guys. So anyway, you asked about the pre-show.

This was the October 12th Tacoma Dome event. At least they out drew Spokane. But you know, every time they said the name of the building, the Tacoma Dome, there we go just outside of Seattle, Tacoma, they couldn't just say Tacoma. We've heard of Tacoma.

And actually, are you familiar with the C-TAC airport out there, Have you been through that fine facility? I don't think that's the airport I fly in and out of in Washington, no. Well, that's because it's the Seattle-Tacoma Airport. It's right in between, hence, C-Tac. They're like Minneapolis, St. Paul, but out in the goddamn great northwest. They're very close together. So it's not a big, goddamn deal either way.

But Tacoma Dome sounds like Super Dome or Silver Dome, or Silver Dome, Or who's your dome? Or one of these other goddamn domes. Every time you say just outside of Seattle, it sounds like you couldn't book a building in Seattle. Yeah, it's like we're really close to a big town. We're almost there. Like Troy, New York was almost in New York City. If you watch the commercials for New York.

Oh, fucking hell. Yeah, almost about two and a half hours by the time we got out of that. But nevertheless, the point is you think Tacoma Dome but Brian, do you have the, or can you Google the Tacoma Dome seating capacity, not for the AEW show, but what I'm saying is they have got grandiose with their naming up there, I believe, because when you think of a dome, you're thinking 40, 50,000 seat domed stadium of some kind, and this is, I think they're calling this a dome because the top is round.

According to Wikipedia, capacity. and it appears capacity maybe for basketball. I'm not sure, but capacity is listed as 21,000. Okay, well, that's pretty big, but I still wouldn't think of that as a dome, would you? No, dome is usually 50,000 seats or more in my eyes. Well, yeah, but maybe he's just a little wannabe dome up there. But nevertheless, they didn't have 20,000 people, but they did seem like they had... They have a dome.

I'm looking at pictures. I mean, there is a dome on the building. At least they have that going for them. Does it open or is it just over the... We ought to put a dome over AEW. Remember that show under the dome? Do you remember the movie Biodome? Well, actually, that had a resolution.

Remember I've talked about this before. The goddamn series went off the air before they found out why this invisible fucking dome was over the goddamn top of everything. But nevertheless, how many people did they have at this fiasco that sat and witnessed this? According to Russell Ticks, tickets distributed 8,045. So boom, that is, uh, ain't 60% of a fucking house there.

That's better than they've been doing. And by the way, for the record, last year's Russell Dream at the Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle, Washington. The Climate Pledge Arena. 6,771 tickets, so they're up. They were up. Just outside of Seattle. That's the secret. Don't go into Seattle.

Yeah. I fucking stay. But Spokane, you can go too far because Spokane there was 1800 people. So you can go too far. Just like this show did. But where I was going with this was that they were in the Washington States. Therefore, they're on the West Coast time zone, Pacific time, as they say. So you can say, well, this show was five and a,

a half hours fucking long. But they started early out there because it was only five o'clock Pacific time. But that still means people had to leave their homes and go to this building and get in

and get set down. And you saw when the pre-show came on, there wasn't a lot of them set down yet. But for those people, and then you got four more hours of show after the show until the show then you've got to get out of there

what the fuck and how much of this can you look at when it's all the same flavor how long is it going to take him to pull out a table but nevertheless

it's an endurance test isn't it even if you like wrestling how much wrestling can you fucking watch WWE has kind of mastered it right now and spoiled it us because it's so tolerable.

The pay-per-view where you get four matches, five matches, maybe six, and they even throw commercials in now. And it's acceptable. Fifteen minutes in between matches. And somehow that's more tolerable than non-stop. Let's go to the next match. This will go for 25 minutes. They're going to do everything.

Next match, two out of three falls. Let's go even longer. I mean, just non-stop. By the time they finish beating that dead horse, poor old Aubriette's running around trying to find a place to hide from these dead horse beaters. Hey, quick question, based on the crowd size and the crowd reaction to a lot of the things on this show or the lack of reaction, how much of this crowd do you think were there because of the, you know, the idea that the local guy, Brian Danielson, may be retiring.

This may be his last match. Well, clearly, he was the most over guy on the show and who they were invested in. and even after all of that, they may have been saving themselves earlier in the night because they were looking like how much longer must this bullshit go on, as Dusty would say,

so that they could actually still cheer for Brian without needing oxygen. But that's the thing is, in a lot of cases, this audience now is distilling down. And yes, they had more people in the building than they normally do,

but this is a pay-per-view, so I would assume there was some traveling contingent to it and the really dedicated folks that want to be there and following most everything. So they are coming to see

a couple of individual personalities and then the mayhem spots. The fucking oh shit they've just killed themselves or the cool he did a triple lindy and landed on his feet with his hands outstretched in the form of a fucking swan or whatever.

I don't know. But they don't care who's doing them because they will pop for those in any match but otherwise the rest of the match or many of the matches they're sitting there or they're looking at their phones or they're just they're watching it like they're waiting for the next fucking car

to come down sideways down the interstate and crash into something. otherwise they're just watching the cars go by. So I think that's what it is. It's the individual people. They want to see Brian Danielson. They want to see Osprey. They want to see MJF whenever they can see MJF.

And then they want to see people attempt to fucking murder themselves and something they believe is a shoot by crashing through shit that doesn't work with them. Does that make any sense? We haven't even begun the pre-show. but yeah, that makes plenty of sense. Anyway, speaking of the pre-s, the reason I watched the pre-show was because I heard of my old friend

and we'll get to it in a second who's going to be on it. I said, oh my gosh, I got to see what to fuck, right? So the thing is, I recorded on my cable system, which is we've already talked about as flawed since it's from Spectrum, but it's like three 30-minute countdown shows before the pay-per-view on the pay-per-view channel.

So you've got to record each countdown show individually, but it's an hour and a half long, but they've got it listed in 30-minute increments, just countdown. Not even about what it is. So you would never know, unless you were trying to find it, that it was AEW programming.

What does yours say? Mine says nothing. It's almost impossible to buy the pay-per-view or order it, and I used to use Bleacher Report. That's done now. I'm not using Triller, because I hate the name to begin with, but I bought it on pay-per-view. Well, I bought it on pay-per-view,

and I had to find the channel, which on Xfinity is 504, and then the two options were watch or watch and record, or purchase and record. And I did that, which recorded a 12-hour block for no good reason. Yes, yeah. Well, but also mine,

if you hit purchase and record, it won't work. You've got to buy it, and then you've got to go back and fucking record it separately. I found out out the hard way. Well, that's been the pre-shop. No, um,

so anyway, Renee Mockesley Good, host the pre-show along with Jeff Jarrett and RJ City. And at the top of the thing, as I'm zipping through, trying to find out when they're going to start these matches. They had Muffin Top Taylor sitting out there talking.

He's still employed by this organization. He's like the Wally's boring friend that got cut from the final version of Leave It to Beaver. Why do they put this fucking guy with that face on television? I didn't see any of that. I saw all this stuff with Jeff and Renee and RJ. I didn't get to see the Chuck Taylor appearance. I guess early in the pre-show, really early in the pre-show. Yes.

Yeah, I was on fast forward, and suddenly that face jumped out at me, and I said, anyway, so they did 15 minutes of pay-per-view pitching and selling and whatever, and then they started the matches of the pre-shows. You get an hour and the people in the building, if they were in the building, got an hour and 15 minutes of wrestling before the wrestling started. And Brian Cage wrestled Atlantis Jr. I did not do a critique on some diminutive gymnast wrestling a giant bodybuilder

who imagines himself a diminutive gymnast but they hired the fucking male models from the WWE the ones that L.A. Knight escaped and got what was he, Max Dupree or whatever the fuck? Did you see the male models? did see this. I knew they were there because we saw them on one of their other shows and oh, that's right. It's just, it's interesting to me. They left WWE and said, hey, could we find a way to keep that gimmick? That's the last thing I would have said. It's like jumping out

of a fucking burning building and then set yourself on fire. L.A. Knight ran as far as he could from that gimmick. These guys are leaning in still. They're not even there anymore. They're leaning into the gimmick. And the, the M&M collection. It sounds like a candy kiosk at the all. What is the... But that's why I watched because they're doing this promo and it's just...

It's a rotten fucking gimmick, right? But they brought out Rico. Did you see the big reveal on the promo? I did... Now, did you know about this beforehand? No. Oh, because the way you said it was, I had to watch it to see this, so I didn't know... Well, no, I was shocked

when all of a sudden he popped up there. When I was recording the pay-per-view... I also recorded the pre-show because you never know when somebody's going to meet their untimely end in one of these things. So I wanted to make sure I had all my bases covered. And then I heard about it afterwards, so I actually watched it. Otherwise, I wasn't going to watch unless there was at least some type of, you know, multi-fucking alarm fire or ambulances descending or whatever. Before you say anything, just a quick recap for fans that may be younger. Rico, Rico Constantino was a top star in OVW.

Yes. Despite the fact that he was older and started late, had a world of talent, and WW, he brought him up to the main roster and made him, was he a hairdress, it was an effeminate manager. He was Billy and Chuck's hairstylist. That's what it was. That's what it was. And with an homage to Adrian Street thrown in there because he was like,

well, if he wanted me to do it, I'm going to do it. And when they did the big angle where Billy was going to marry Chuck, with Eric Bischoff as the minister wearing a disguise, yes, this aired on TV, he was their guy. Rico was their best man or what, I don't know what he was, but. Yes, well, that was the last time we saw him, I guess is the point. He was the better man. Yeah, and also here's the thing, is Billy referenced it

when they were doing the promo earlier in this deal or before the match saying, you know what? I know you, you're the one that talked me and almost talked me into a marrying a guy. And the people sitting there

because it's been 25 years ago, the people sitting there maybe have been gone what the fuck is going on around here? I miss that episode of collision. Yeah. But nevertheless, but Rico, and he's my age, by the way. It still looks like that.

Really? Because he was, that was the issue when we got him in, was it late 1999, early 2000 in OVW, he was like 38 years old at that time. He was on the very first ever episode and maybe the pilot episode of American Gladiators. Yes. He was the competitor. And he's only, he's won like a handful of the competitors that actually, they won.

And that was the thing is that we told everybody that he was like 10 years younger than he was and they still said, oh man, he looks great for his age. He was just a genetic freak. But that was one of the knocks that Danny Davis and I even went to sit down with Stephanie at one of the smackdowns they did here in Louisville and plead his case because he was not only an exemplary employee and a tremendous human being, but he excelled at being a baby face.

He was a gymnast. He was a bodybuilder. He was a fitness freak. He could do all the flying shit as a baby face. And then tore his ACL when he came back, we switched him heel, and he was a great fucking heel. And he could do a promo. And his back,

background, he had been a firefighter in Las Vegas and a police officer and a firefighter slash EMT fellow. He'd been shot three times, stabbed twice, hit by two cars in a line of duty. And we set all this true shit on TV here. People fucking loved him. And they wanted to cut him. He's too old. I said, look at him.

Jesus, age Christ. and finally they brought him up there and made him the ambiguously gay hairstylist for poor Billy Gunn and his partner Chuck, what was it name? Colombo. Chuck Polombo.

That's not what... Colombo. Well, that's not what Peter Falk said, but anyway. Fuck you. But yeah, so they brought out Rico and he's going to be the third man in the corner. on the pre-show with no prior announcement or any. I mean, not that it would be a big, like, pop for, you know,

oh my God, I've got to tune in to Si RICO, but just such a random thing to do. Well, but we'll get to why it was stupid booking-wise here in a second when the match comes up. But I'm sure you watched, Brian, the ladies contest on the pre-show program with Harley Cameron versus your friend and hers and a J. I did indeed watch this match. I wanted to make sure I knew what was happening with the grappling. What was happening with the grappling? Well, what was up with the referee shoving?

You saw that? I didn't know if you saw enough to see that. Oh, no, this went viral. My Twitter was just a full of it, just a full of it, where, I mean, we didn't expect this was going to be, you know, Jack Briscoe and Dory Fung Jr. to begin with, right? But nevertheless, for those of you who didn't hear about this, I encourage you to seek out the brief clip that's on the internet,

Anna J. gives Harley Cameron some kind of, it looked nasty, a fucking backwards face plant where she threw her own. over her back and fucking planted her on the goddamn mat and when she covered her she had her wound up so fucking tight and I've I've been there

a couple times one time when the principal of the Morristown Tennessee East High School fucking covered me with his goddamn elbow in my Adams apple but she had her cinched up and Harley

Cameron's left shoulder was nowhere near down on the mat. So as the referee goes down to count, he reaches over and he pushes her shoulder down to the mat and then counts one, two, three. I mean, we've seen some of the referee bibles and things that, who was it, that shoved the guy's leg the other week.

But goddamn, you're right there next to a person's head Can you not say, hey, put your fucking shoulder down? Do you have to actually visually in front of the whole place, push it down to the mat? Or had he said that and she didn't know what the fuck that he was talking about? Before you even get to the referee, based on what a wrestler is supposed to do, is this on Harley Cameron?

I mean, how do you end up in that position where your shoulder is so clearly not even close to the mat that the referee has to do that? Well, in all honesty, as I said, had she had her fucking face planted for real, did she, was she cognizant at that point? Was she cinched up too tight where she couldn't put it down? Well, no, because when the referee pushed it, she put it right down. So she would just probably concentrating on, okay, I lived through that thing, and now she's got my legs, and she wouldn't pay attention to her shoulders.

How many matches have either one of these people had, but still you would think that you would notice something like that, but I don't... Anna J. look good. You mean her wrestling? No, they should put the belt on her. They should have her be the one to go over Moxley. Oh, the men's belt.

Any belt, yeah. I think we'll get people talking, get people watching, and more Anna J. Maybe if she wanted, but that's the only thing she was allowed to wear is what you're saying. No, I let her go out there like a professional. I'm not a pervert or a nudist or whatever you are over there. A nudist? It's a naturalist. A naturalist?

Yes. I'm willing to appreciate her work with clothing on, yeah. Well, no, clothing is the work of the devil, see? We should only have things that exist in nature. She's been in AEW a long time and she's still young. I always say it, she's one of those ones I wish WWE would be able to get her into NXT because I think she could, she seems to want to get better. And I think if she was finally in a better system, it would really happen.

Harley Cameron has no hope for it all. Boy, that's tough in it. That one's tough. It's like, eh. Poor Dave Cameron. She's nothing to do. You stopped doing that. She has nothing to do at wrestling his story in Dave Cameron.

I thought that, you know, she's from New Zealand over there. I thought that, you know, it's a small island. You know, whenever I'm going through my files, every now and then I just find a random photo. I'm like, who is this? It's always Dave Cameron and it's always like, wow. It's literally like Dave Cameron at George Hackenshmit's house in England. Yeah. With him, with George Hackenshmet.

Like, what the fuck? They were close. You know, it could be that maybe that's why Dave didn't claim Harley because maybe Hackenshmidt was behind it. That must suck if you are like a wrestling, forget about a wrestling legend. A wrestling historian, someone who really loves wrestling, and your kid gets into wrestling, and they suck.

Right? How do you deal with that? Like, oh, fuck. Like, I know he's not good, or she's not good in this case for this fantasy story of wrestling Lethario, Dave Jammer, and impregnated women. Do you think that Leo Burke was a disappointment to Tom Burke? Oh, come on now.

There's no relation there. Was Tom Burke a disappointment, the Mildred Burke? Well, there's... No, actually, Mildred said that Tom was the best she ever had. Oh, stop it now. That's why she left Billy Wolf. You've gone too far now. All right, we're sub...

It was just friends of ours, ladies gentlemen, that we want to entertain. So anyway, the match was up then. The M&M collection with Rico, Constantino, and the Corner against the acclaimed. Oh, how the acclaimed. have lost their acclaim. Now they're on the pre-show. And remember when they were hot and good and... Yeah.

Who are they going to bring in next to confront Billy Gunn? You think Bart Guns available? Who are they going to bring in next from 30 years ago to confront Billy Gun? On the pre-show? You know, actually, Honky Tonk? Remember? You know, that's a good one? Honky Tonk?

That's good, yeah. And Honky Tonk is only, I think, eight years older than Rico. But Rico comes in. He's bigger than half the fucking roster. He's still got the fucking chest, blah, blah, blah. But boy, howdy,

the problem was Rico wasn't working in the match. When he interfered, I got a little tickle out of it, because again, as I said, Rico was an exemplary human being during his time here. but you know the model gimmick is isn't it embarrassing even for this company

and do you think that they think that because it's so bad WWE-ish that it will get heat from this audience not realizing that's probably not the best kind of the heat yeah this is actually literally one of the last Vince McMahon gimmicks and now it's on AEW TV when Vince was losing it

and producing the worst television of his life and coming up with bad idea after bad idea. This was one of his ideas, and now it's on AEW TV. A&W's pre-show, excuse me. Yeah, and... This is a selling point for the pay-per-view. And as I mentioned earlier, they had done the promo right before they started to match, where Billy Good got the microphone and said, hey, we've got our history or whatever, however, they went into it saying, you're the one that almost talked me into marrying a guy.

And there's people in the crowd that's not as old as when that happened, and it's not like that's been replayed over and over on these modern retrospectives, has it? No, they've run. Is that one of the things that doesn't age well in today's environment? The tag team that pretended they were gay so they could stage a wedding. And during a wedding, remember, they turned, they announced that they weren't gay. Yeah. Where was it going to go if they, I mean, again, there's no good logical end to any of this.

And what was the, what they came up with was they were doing it for publicity because of something or other, the other thing? They were doing it for publicity. I don't remember why Eric Bischoff was wearing like a wax mask as the priest. What was the reason from hiding? He was auditioning for the Vincent Price role in a remake of House of Wax. Was he behind it? Was that what it was?

Was Bischoff as GM or something behind it? Well, I don't know because they don't replay it anymore because every anti-homophobic organization out there would bombard them at this point in time. When's the last time you saw any of that? He says, you're the reason I almost married a guy once. If you're in the crowd, you turn to the person next to you. Like, what? What a guy is?

How did that happen? You're the reason. What did he do? Well, but you know what? Once again, maybe because they're the smartest of the smart fans, the diast of the diehards or the hardest of the, well, I can't say that. They're the ones that'll know if anybody does, the AW audience, right? But it didn't get, it got more of a, hmm, than a, wow, type of thing going on.

Any thoughts on the match? No. No, actually, here's the thing. They finally, they all went to the floor so Rico could be in the ring and Billy could come up behind him and they have their, you know, face off. and Rico goes for his spin kick, which he had done when he interfered earlier on one of the other guys. And Billy blocks it and gives him the boot

and the fame asser, boom, and out goes Rico and then the acclaimed beat one of the models, one, two, three. But that's the thing, as I was referenced earlier, they not only debuted a new manager, I'm sure it's probably a one-off, but a new manager for this team on a pre-show of a pay-per-view,

that has the smallest possible audience, but then he gets laid out and they lose the match. So what the... He sold that fam-asser good. He took it perfect and he sold it great. Well, he's an OVW protege. Trained by Danny Davis and Rip Rogers and all of the various folks that we had here at the time

and overseen and managedated by yours truly. Does he live up there? No, he lives in, he went back to Las Vegas, and he's been, he still went back to me, I don't think he's an actual, or been an actual city policeman. I think he's in private security and blah, blah, blah, blah. He once bodyguarded Benny Hinn. Oh, no way. Yes.

Did he need body, were people trying to get the Benny Hinn? Well, I'm sure somebody smartened up eventually, but no, he just, because he moved, Benny Hinn moved in the big circles and needed somebody to clear, you know, just pathways and just make sure. So maybe this isn't a one-off. Tony is more than willing to fly people around the country to appear on the pre-show.

How much is Tony going to offer Rick Martel to appear with these guys? Maybe they could make him the king of the pre-show. He signs a contract to just do the pay-per-view pre-shows. Before we move on from this real quick, if he had gone up to the main roster at the time, where he did, as the Rico from OVW, what do you think his ceiling was? How far do you think he could have gone?

What could he have done at that time? You know, honestly, as a baby face, he was almost too nice for that era, but he was very athletic and flashy and good looking, so he worked as a territory baby face. but when he switched heel and became the role model and we played on the fact that he was so fucking perfect and that he had done everything, it was a genetic marvel and et cetera, et cetera, and he became snotty about it.

That was kind of, there was a little bit of what Kurt Angle was doing a fucking year later or whatever in that. And it just, but it's as old as the hills in, you know, wrestling heel presenting is that

you either if a guy's horribly ugly then play on that or if he's too good to be true makes out the Lex Luger the total package makes something out of that

so I think Rico he wasn't going to be you know the WWF champion and main event pay per view but I can sit here and go down a

list of the people they employed over the years 2000 through 2005 and probably find 30 or 40 at least that he could have not only outperformed but also been a better quality employee than just my personal opinion hmm well that was uh that wasn't the highlight of the no no no because then brian i completely forgotten what where Russell Dream came from what the the meaning the heart and soul

behind wrestled dream what I'd forgotten that it was all a tribute from Antonio Canoki to Antonio Inoki since we they did it last year and I thought they might have the good sense

to leave it alone at this point but no they returned this year and Tony came out and I he was he's a social moron you know what I mean he has no idea how to just how to be but he was just he was hopping

well first he was you know he was looking out at the people and he was kind of not really hopping but just kind of vibrating a bit back and forth and then he began screaming. And it wasn't like that they were doing the Dominic Mysterio thing where every time he opens his mouth,

they're trying to make noise and drown him out. They were already half-ass listening, right? I don't want to scream like he's screamed. I can't do it. I would hurt myself. Thank you, Tacoma, everyone. And he's holding the mic. It's not like he's screaming with no mic.

No, he's screaming in. to the mic. While these two very calm children next to him were just standing there. Well, no, wait a minute. First, he came out first and then, and started screaming, and then he brought them out to scream at them while not looking at them. He was neither blinking nor looking at the two people. He said, the grandchildren, the grandsons of Antonio Inoki, And now I start to think as they walk out next to him and they got the red towels around a neck and he's giving their names. And I truthfully didn't write their first names down, not disrespecting these teenage young men. But to point is Tony is screaming their names, but he's not looking at him and they're two feet to the left of him.

I'm thinking, is he reading the names from behind the camera? but then the whole time that he was screaming at the fans, he never looked at these kids once. Did you notice that? I did notice that. He also called Antonio Inoki wrestling's greatest dreamer. Yes, yes.

Like when he dreamed of taking New Japan's profits and diverting them to other interests that he had. And that sugar cane plant or farm in Brazil. But he dreamed up a lot of creative account. running. But no, so... I also want to honor Hiroshi Shinma, wrestling's greatest scapego!

That's where they got the gimmick from. Yeah, from Shinma. You know what? At that point, the grandkids should have just grabbed the microphone and said, honorable master Shinma was innocent. It was Sayama all along. Sayama, really? Not Sakaguchi, but it's a total swerve.

It's Tiger Mask. It was Sayama. it was all his fault. See, once again, we're now, we talk about them narrowcasting, but then folks, this is the only way that Brian and I can make it entertaining for ourselves. They should have had my Ada run out there

and shoot kick both of the kids. Strike. Start a new feud. Face in. Yeah. But no, Tony comes out. He screams at the people. He brings out the two grandsons of Antonio Onoki,

screams their names. He's neither blinking nor looking at these two people that are, right next to him. And then is as to an honor of Antonio Onogi, Resoling Greatest Dreamer, the whole big thing, he's screaming, we want everybody

to let's do Antonio Anoki's famous chant. And when he said that, I swear to God, the place was so quiet, I could hear a black hole turning in outer space. Nobody knew what the fuck to do. They don't,

it's been four. 40 years, right? The New Japan tapes. And never in America was that chant over. And so, but they've anticipated that. They may not have anticipated the dead silence. Maybe they thought people were going to go, yes, let's all join in doing this thing that you're going to hopefully tell us how to do.

So then they put it up on the screen. And Tony Kahn tries to, or Tony Chivani, I'm sorry, too, is standing there who's introduced this whole thing. He's there to help Tony Kong lead this chant. Tony Chivani tries to read it for the people, but it's up there fairly quickly, so Tony's a beat behind, and it's in Japanese.

So for people who have never, one would think, heard it or seen it written or whatever, one time may not be enough. What is it, Nici, Isanda. Ichi Nisanda. Okay.

And people are thinking, Nissan. Toyota? But it Echi Nisenda. But it goes by on the screen one time and Tony Shavani reads it and then this is one of the most awkward segments I've ever seen on. Tony Kahn

says, that's right, one more time and it's off the screen and they've gone back to a graphic. And the people are like, oh, wait a what are we supposed to do? They started to get with it at the end when they realized that they could read it. Right? So he calls for

it again. It's not there. And he's saying one more time to Tony, like, can you help? And just then it pops back up. And then Tony's ahead of everybody doing it because he's just all amped up. Everybody doing it. No one was doing it. No one knew the chant. He still the famous chant.

I mean, when he said, let's all do his famous chant, I said them, there's no way anyone here is going to know what that is. This could be really awkward and that it was even more awkward. Because it was him and Shivani leading it and no one doing it. Tony was even ahead of Tony Chivani. Tony Khan was even... And then Tony Khan thanked everybody and people walked away. They were on the stage.

And some of them may have walked out of the arena as well, but awkward. In Japanese, Anoki's grandchildren said, what the fuck? Yeah. So last time I do this shit, my grandfather would have walked out. And one kid would look like he was fucking 16. How long has Anoki been gone now? I guess it's only a few years now. Only a few years.

But, you know, I don't remember how old his children were. Remember there was Simon Anoki? Nochi wasn't his real name, but he was the son-in-law. Yeah, I was going to say he was by marriage related. So are those Simon Anoki's kids? I guess that's what it could be. Well, at least that way, maybe he didn't have to fly him all the way in from Japan. He could have just brought him up from Los Angeles.

Angeles. Let's all do his famous chant. That's one of the greatest phrases ever for something no one knew what he was going to do. And Chivani, noted New Japan expert Chavani was going to help him lead the chant. He was probably reading it for the first time. But it was like if somebody had come out there with the microphone and said, okay, everybody in the crowd, let's now chant Socrates's theory in ancient Greek. I thought this segment was so amazing. I was dumbfounded. And I said, there's no way Jim watched a pre-show.

I need to find it. Couldn't find it anywhere on YouTube. Because I was going to send you the link. This is a must-see segment. Tony Con has no idea how to behave in public or how to use a microphone. And then the chant part with Chavani is one of the most awkward moments

in the history of wrestling television. and this is still just a pre-show. This is just the pre-show. It's like if you had two Abbots and no Costello. It was just, it was very strange. But, well, and the pre-show then concluded with a, an eight or ten-man tag team match. I don't know.

The entertainment was, value was out of it for me at that point. So, but did I miss anything or everybody, walk out, unscathed, I mean. I didn't really watch too much of the match. I saw the finish. The fans there seemed to be into the outrunners, so they have that going for them. But other than that, you know, I was using the famous catchphrase of Guerrilla Monsoon, go home, go home. And we're ready for the main show. Memphis TV, they used to send Guy Coffey out. He'd walk out the door and he'd stand behind one of the two

fucking studio cameras and he would flip his tie, right? And finally, after long enough, the people got smart to it, they'd see him walk out there. Now, go on back, Mr. Coffee, and let him wrestle.

Anyway, I wish we had a Guy Coffee at a Tacoma Dome on October the 12th for the wrestle dream pay-per-view festivities. And, you know, we prefaced when we were talking about the pre-show, but just to bring everybody back to, my God, now they've seen an hour and 15 minutes of matches in the building. Now they're about to see four hours of matches that, in some way or another,

follow the same theme and do the same thing. We're going to pull out furniture. We're going to ignore any kind of rule or logic. we are going to commit every type of felonious attempted assault and or in the middle of it, frequent floor

routines will break out among some of the finest gymnasts in America and then we're going to try to fucking murder each other some more and yeah, somebody's probably going to get fucked up, either accidentally or on purpose.

And it just goes on and on forever. And as we also mentioned a little earlier, and then I will turn the floor over to you to comment on what I just said, the people sit there and wait for either one of the few personalities they want to see or they don't care whether the good guy or the bad guy or the person that they want to win or the person they want to lose is doing some big goddamn thing. But to more it looks like it fucks somebody. up, the bigger the pop, and then they sit there and watch it again until somebody else tries to fuck somebody up. Yeah, I asked you, I think, last week on the Bad Blood Paperview review, the Punk McIntyre match, as good as it was, and it was the best match of the year for WWE, would it have stood out as much

on a show like this? No. It would have stood out in terms of they would have had a bunch more people so, God damn, these motherfuckers look halfway serious type of thing, but it would have been shit that they'd already seen before on the show or seen a variation of it or seen somebody get up from something similar to it

or a guy half the size of so-and-so emerged unscathed when such and such was perpetrated on him. And so it, when you when you don't care about the personalities you're just looking for big bumps and shit

but when you're looking for big bumps and shit you give them more big bumps than it dilutes dilutes diminishes dilutes when the top guys

do the big bumps and then you're just in an an endless cycle of rinse and repeat or actually I always press sanitize. It just seems more goddamn cleanly.

But there you are. Oh, and there we are. And that was Russell Dream. Yeah, it was a great show, folks. Well, don't lie to the people. Why are you going to start lying to the public now? Okay, now, all right. Let's go to the card.

How did it start? The card, light switch, Jay White is back with Juice Robinson, and of course, Juice comes out on the stage with him, and pats him on the back and turns around. and leaves, the only motherfucker that I would like to see and he's the one that turns around and leaves. And then here comes

hang nail Adam Page. So Brite, do we remember why that Jay White and Juice Robinson switched baby face or did they just show back up that way? Well, that's the... Jay was off

for a long time because he was... Well, now wait a minute. Juice was hurt. Yeah. And was off for a while? So then was Jay White hurt also? Maybe. Maybe.

Well, did they both, were they in a fucking cab that got hit by a bus? How did they... That's what happens in AEW. How's... We'll talk about it later. How's Adam Cole the devil a baby face now? How did Chris Stoutlander go from being managed by Stokely and being a heel two weeks ago to all of a sudden she's a baby face without Stokely?

There was no explanation. There was no reason. With AEW, you never know what each appearance will bring. They may just completely wipe out the story and start a new. You never know what each appearance will bring. It's like if the Easter Bunny started bringing the kids cigarettes and tequila instead of chocolate eggs. That was my idea. That's probably in a...

Moxomania. In the neighborhood Moxley grew up in. That's probably what the Easter Buddy passed out. Cincinnati. I swear he's from Newport, but anyway. Mitchell Gooson. So, so Jay White and Juice are the baby faces,

and they did something with Page a week or two ago. Right? I can't remember. I think Paige beat Juice, and then Jay White returned? That's right. And he returned to help us,

so they, once again, they put juice in the position of the setup guy, the little brother, the sidekick, the pal, he's the star of the show, he's not even out there. But anyway, at the same time, neither guy's work here is really babyface or heel, Paige is acting more like an asshole, and they're just doing shit. And it begins, again, Jay White has just recently returned. out of nowhere, and suddenly he's in such a hot angle with this fucking guy that they are

power bombing each other on the fucking stairs. You know, the first five minutes of the first fucking match. The referee doesn't, it's a normal match. It wasn't stated as no disqualification. Lazy booking.

They just never get back in the goddamn ring. They fight back to the ramp Paige is going to whip him with his belt, but the referee tries to take it away, and he manhandles the referee, and then White picks Paige up

and gives him the old Rick Flair figure four set up knee breaker over the knee. But he gives it to him on the fucking ramp. And then the guy, he gets up and continues the goddamn match. And they broke the count by getting, back in the ring at the count of five and they had been outside for two minutes and 30 seconds.

The referee had got to five. I have more notes. Would you like to hear some more? Yeah. They took a few more hospitalization bumps and then Jay White made a comeback. And he's been working on Page's bad leg. of course remember that he got knee-breakered

on the fucking entrance ramp and continued his match but he just can't execute the buckshot so Paige tries the buckshot with the bad leg but Jay White catches him in his finish

boom one two three so now you know that I'm no fan of hangnail Adam Page I'm not his fan club president. I've not sung his praises, but they built this guy up like this, and they beat him

with a guy that's just come back out of nowhere in this violent first match where, you know, not sure who's supposed to be the goddamn guy we're rooting for to begin with. And he just beats him fucking flat. Boom. If it was Jay White's debut in the company ever, as a surprise, maybe, but we've already seen what we saw a year almost of Jay White before we got a break of Jay White.

And it's kind of black and white that everybody was pretty fucking dim on Jay White, wasn't it? The only people that go crazy about Jay White are people that love them in New Japan. and I guess that's one of the great examples of how things from New Japan can't work over here or need to work over here. I'm not saying Jay White couldn't, but it shouldn't be Jay White with Juice Robinson as the second that should be the other way around. Juice is bigger.

Juice has a better look. He's got more of a wrestler's personality. His promos, you know, we haven't heard too many Juice Robinson promos so he can't say their classics or anything, but they come across like a wacky personality more than, Oh, I am here! Close. Just every fucking promo from the guy.

And he's small. I'm sorry. And I know with AEW, you kind of have to look the other way because half the roster are really small. Jack Perry, Orange, Cassidy, hook, this guy. There are so many guys that are like Tony Kahn size on this show.

And at least Jay White's in shape. I'll give him that. But like you said, Adam Page, by the way, where were the cops? This is his first time in Washington since he burned down Swarves House in Washington. No arrest. Oh shit, that's right.

That was in Washington, right? He's from Seattle's swer. Well, you know, that they say, that's what they say on the news, that the criminals are taking over the Pacific Northwest. But Adam Page has been getting a push. He beat the shit out of swerve and sent them away for, what, a month? Why is he losing to Jay White? There's a ceiling to Jay White.

You tried to push him. You had him beat MJF when MJF was the world champion. Why do this again? I'm not saying don't use Jay White, but he shouldn't be a focus character. And if you're going to focus on anyone, for American pro wrestling, that would work for American pro wrestling?

Juice Robinson. I'm sick of saying I wish these guys were in NXT. I know it used to be apparently years ago. But there's a character just ready for wrestling on TV and they don't do anything with him. He's a lackey. He's a flunky. for no reason.

And I have a new synonym or a couple for you, Brian. When we're talking about the size of some of these people, I've looked up microorganism, which is defined as an organism of microscopic size, especially a bacterium or protozoan. So you can say that they're bacterium-sized or protozoan in appearance.

something else we can I just hate to say the same words all the time I try to learn a new word every day you know what this morning I looked up the word opaque in the dictionary the definition was unclear but there you go but seriously there's a ceiling to some of these guys

based on their skinniness and that they look like guys who were in shape in some case Orange Cassidy looks like a guy in shape he looks like a guy 145 pounds in really good shape. And really boring. And somebody that you would cut your throat

if you had to sit in the same room with. But if there was a division with all those guys, it would probably work a lot better because you wouldn't be seeing them against guys who it just looks ridiculous. When I watch Jack Perry against Shabana, I know we'll get to it. On its face, it's ridiculous.

On its face, it's ridiculous. And there's a lot of that in AEW. Again, Jay White's not to that level, but I think that's one of the things that's going to hold Jay White back from getting over with anyone outside of people predisposed to liking him from New Japan. Well, I'll tell you what, maybe they will like the next match even better. It was for... What women's title is it for?

This was for the women's title. Was that the actual women's title, women's title? Not one of the other titles that the other women hold? No, Mercedes-Money has the TBS chain. as well as the New Japan Strong Championship, as well as the, I think, Golden Raspberry acting championship. Do you keep a list tacked to your bullet and board above your desk that you can just rattle these things off?

I don't. I should. I should. Well, it was Willow Nightingale against Maria May. And, you know, I said I was taking very copious notes. I must admit that I zoned out a bit on this one and then I began getting kind of beleaguered with it and I fast forwarded a little bit but I stopped at random because I saw something

as a Willow was trying to figure out the Indian death lock did you see the leg hold she got on Maria? Well no they said that it was a leg hold I want to say she got it from Mexico it could have been Japan but I think they said that it was a specific leg, because I remember watching going, she doesn't know how to do a figure four.

But they said it was some kind of move from somewhere else that she picked up. Well, which is a great way to cover for it if it wasn't, by the way. It was actually, she got it from the Tibetan monks in the, in the high in the Swiss Alps or whatever. No, it was just, it's not a hold. I don't know what she, it looked to me like she was going into the Indian death lock. But nevertheless, this again, you know,

Willow is good, Maria is good. What can we say? And I'm good in terms of the gene pool that they are currently swimming in. And finally, Maria May, who is the heel, apparently nominally, hits a hurricane run off, the top rope, a fucking knee lift, and then a Death Valley driver, one, two, three. So again, you've got another two where the heel doesn't have to cheat to win,

or the baby face doesn't really get any kind of out. Well, the out is they had a great match and showed fighting spirit. No, the out is when some unfortunate incident occurred, blinded by the light, whatever, the sun was in your eyes, that that's why that the heel was able to fucking get an opening and capitalize and mildly or majorly cheat. And that's how the fucking thing kind of works, anywhere except here.

They just go back and forth. And the young ladies here in this match did enough moves that could have populated an entire card, once upon time and this is one of like what a dozen fucking matches or whatever and then once they've run out of things to do

then somebody just beats the other person am I being overly critical you know a match like this I thought it was okay and I think both women are really good they belong in the WWE but I think of the famous catchphrase

of Antonio Anoki which was at least it wasn't Britt Baker Well, we got that going for us. So let's move on to another championship contest. A lot of gold on the line, folks. Is this the TNT title? I don't know. Which match are you talking about?

We're talking about Shepoopy and Jungle Jackoff. Yes, this is TNT Dynamite. Well, there you go. And one of them's going to pop and the other one's going to get sprayed. And first of all, you've got to explain to me, Brian, if you can, because you're more perceptive, you're more forgiving, you're willing to listen a little bit more, you're more level-headed than I am, et cetera, all those things. I'm not more forgiving.

Well, you're more forgiving in terms of these programs where I instantly just go, oh, fine, you know, you're willing to, in your sometimes altered state of consciousness, give some of these people a chance. Maybe, maybe so. What is the scapegoat gimmick? What is the... How have they ever explained to the average viewer the scapegoat gimmick? Why is he the scapegoat if the other guy got fired? How is he now applying the scapegoat to his promos, his matches, his overall personality,

the way he acts or interacts with the other people besides having an armband that says scapegoat and scapegoat painted on his van, how is it benefiting him? How's he working the gimmick? You must remember Jack Perry's a moron. And he's a big wrestling fan but doesn't understand what works and how things work.

And he's also in the Bucks camp and they are the kings of misreading the room. look at where they are right now. The gimmick is that he's the scapegoat, I presume, because he got blamed for the incident where punk choked him out or choked him and then was fired. Yes. And Tony Kahn suspended him and blamed him

and their smart thinking was, let's not have him return as a rich pretty boy Hollywood pansy and everyone wants to see get his ass kicked. Let's have him return as some wannabe Jim Morrison characters want to be Raven whatever you want to call it

I'm doing he did some promo like I'm doing this for future generate I'm sacrificing myself for future in what way how explain any of this he's driving around

an escape goat bus truck ice cream van I don't know what it is why how does that have to do with any of this I'm a scapegoat

so I need to buy an old van and paint it black like what the fuck does that have to do with anything well it's You know, the problem, at first he saw a red door and he had to paint it black, and then it went from there.

No, there's no explanation or reason for that's what I'm saying. To us, we know this because we are the insiders that cover these things, but on their own television show, they still never, they'd never told the punk story with the buckaroos, much less they didn't even tell the story when they just showed the footage, which nobody understood unless they already knew what the fuck, and now, how does he continue being a scapegoat?

Well, the other problem is he's not over. Remember, we heard, and they blew up their show because everything's been on a downward slide since they aired that punk footage in the spring. That was the moment we said it was jumping the shark. It really has been,

for the crowds and for the show. But they aired that, we heard that Tony Khan went to see Jack Perry Russell for New Japan and Chicago and was blown away by the presentation and the way he was over

and he's on these shows and no one gives a shit. There's no heat on him. No one cares about him. And the other thing is the size issue. You can't buy him as this character. I said it before. If a Nick Camerado or some big fucking guy

that they've done nothing with all of a sudden started doing any of this, maybe you'd at least have some interest. What is Jack Perry, 5-7, 5-8, 150 pounds, smallest waste in wrestling? He is a smaller waist

than all the women on the roster. You know what? If you put him and model girl together, I bet you that they wouldn't even be able to have between the two of them, they wouldn't be able to have a full-sized child. With Jack Perry,

you have a guy with a build of Britt Baker pretending he's a badass, and doing some badly... Actually, Brit came back with some abs. Well, I guess so. But he's pretending he's a badass. And no one buys it. And he has a gimmick that in his head is somehow fleshed out.

He's less over today than he was ever before in AEW. And this is going nowhere. This is a road to nowhere with Jack Perry. Well, at his first stop was at Shepoopi's Diner on the Road to Nowhere. And again, this... Shabata looks like a hell of an athlete. And that's why some of this was ridiculous also, because this guy, you would think he looks like

if this was a kung fu movie, he might be the top henchman. He could kick some ass, but he's not to star. He's not involved in the upper echelon of the gangsters or the heel faction or whatever. But he could kick the shit out of Jack Perry, right? Pretty quickly and easily. But the problem is that Shabata is as exciting as watching cabbage boil.

It's just, he's another guy with, 40 years ago, it used to be, you know, the guys in a locker room and say, he's another guy with black boots and black tights. well then Steve Austin kind of diminished that statement somewhat but they're just

with the phone translator thing that's so silly and I just don't understand why that they think that Shibata to an American audience is going to be you know this exciting

fellow when they have matches like this where the guy just, the baby face just sits, he looked like bruiser Brody sitting cross-legged in the middle of the ring and dare an old jungle Jackoff to do something and not selling anything.

But at the same time, Perry spit on him. And he still sat there and just looked at him and no sold it like no soul the kicks. psychologically, the baby face doesn't no-cell getting spit on. Have I missed something here, Brian? And did a memo go out? Well, remember, Shabata had his brain removed,

so I guess he's a little different than the normal human being. At least Dave was there to cover it from an expert medical standpoint. He licked it. Oh, my God. Shepoopee got the sleeper on Jungle Boy and jumped on his back and they fell backwards and

Perry was on top and the referee counted Shepoopy down and the crowd booed the shit out of it. And I'm not talking about oh golly that got a lot of heat. I'm talking about what the fuck? What kind of bullshit finishes that?

Did you hear that? You don't often hear that kind of booing from one of these audiences. This is not the only time it happens on this show. It happens also in the Young Buck's private party match. And then, of course, we could talk about later on the John Moxley-Bryin-Danielsson match, but no, people don't want Jack Perry in this role.

And they're willing to accept Shabbata in exchange for that. No, they didn't want this. They didn't want any of this. And it was not a good match. in any way but the post match I guess was the bigger story here

well yeah well I mean the the match was again Shabbata sit there like Brody kick me some more then chop me some more and then he would chop the other guy dozens of times and then they'd just take turns

doing that indie bullshit that's the most boring thing in wrestling the I'm gonna show you how tough I am by sitting here or standing here and taking whatever you can do and now it's your turn

It was once unique. It was once unique, but now everyone does it, every match. Even if you're in a fight, you know you're going to win, do you want to let the guy have four or five good shots first just to make him feel good about himself, or what is the fucking, I don't understand. Yeah, why doesn't anyone kick the person in the balls? But again, then, well, they do,

but that doesn't beat anybody anymore. That just leads to beating somebody. They need balls. But, well, they're there. It's just awful hard to hit a target that small. So basically, Perry pinned our friend Shepoopi, and again, another heel beats the baby Faye, just beat him. He got a sleeper above.

I'll show you. I'll fall backwards. And suddenly Perry gets back on Shabazz. to get heat on him. I'm like, why? He just won. I don't understand. And then he hits him with the title belt.

And then suddenly here comes Danny Garcia. Holy Christ on a cracker. You know, and the announcers are like, oh, thank God he's, you know, he's here to save the day. And he has a face off with Perry and they do nothing. and Garcia's got the blank look and Perry rolls out. And then suddenly MJF's music plays. And MJF comes out to the ring. And I made a note, this is like Stone Cold Steve Austin making an entrance to face off with the hot dog vendor.

So they've again, they've devalued MJF's appearances by miring him in with the, the children and the amateurs and the various sub main event status talent. So now MJF and Garcia have a face off. All right, this is the two guys back in the same place where they had the mayhem on pay-per-view

a while back. And suddenly for shits and giggles, I guess, Perry rolls back in the ring and just knocks Garcia out. from behind with the fucking belt. And then he takes off. At least maybe we finally got rid of him. So then

MJF takes his jacket off and he starts getting heat on Garcia. Garcia turtling up so it looks like shit, you can't hit anything. What's the matter of these fucking green horns? But nevertheless, MJF either

was beating his shit out of him or he got the microphone and cut a promo. He'd cut a little promo, which got a bigger reaction than most of the rest of the show. And then he'd beat on him a little bit and said, he found the diamond ring

in a pawn shop in Buffalo. It took him a little while, but he pulled it out. How many, do you think Tony got like a deal on having a half a dozen of those made or should he look into it? Tony loves buying belts. Do you think he loves buying?

Rings? Well, I would think that rings and things count for, like, belts and welts and buttons and bows. So then he brought the ring out, and he's going to make Danny Garcia kiss his ring. I thought MJ, I didn't know MJF was Catholic. Anyway, here came by Cracky Adam Cole Music. What? What? Holy shit,

it's just a night of surprises. And here comes Adam Cole running to the ring. I'm not I know he's had an ankle injury, but did he use to run like he was running? I don't know, but at Lee,

he motivated out there without crutches and everything. And MJF bailed out of the ring and took off into the crowd but if we think back to wasn't at Christmas time or New Year's time that Adam Cole was the devil and had been tormenting MJF and was revealed to be the devil

that had been doing that and then MJF said he was going to get even but now the people like the devil and MJF is the heel so MJF is running from the guy what tormented him nine months ago.

Yeah. Adam Cole was the devil. He had an entire stable of eels who hated MJF and wanted to get him. And they ran off the baby face. That has no association with them whatsoever, ever again. And then the last time we saw Adam Cole, he was on the card again as a heel doing a promo

and then MJF showed up as a baby face and beat him up. That was MJF's return at one point. and we said, oh, at least they're going to just stop that and end that right now. And I guess Adam Cole is finally healed. So they're returning to this thing. But now Adam Cole, the devil is the baby face and the good guy is the person the devil turned on. Or the bad guy is the person the devil turned on. Is there some kind of pie chart or diagram where they stick the pins in the wall and take colored strings?

Well, Tony has all the charts, I would ask him. Well, anyway, so, and by the way, next to Adam Cole, Garcia looks like Lex Lugar. I just know, I, this, it's all stages, folks. It's levels. It's levels of this stuff. See, already you can tell fatigue was setting in, Brian. I was starting to get tired.

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they probably could have used a lot of CB Distillery's products in AEW. Let's get back to Russell Dream. I have a feeling there was some kind of CBD, THC, LSD, something was going on in this. next match. The three-way, the triple threat with Rickashay and Osprey and our boy take a shit. I'm back on it. I don't know what's going on here now with him anymore either, but what title was this?

Was this the continental or is this the international? What belt were the three of them going for? This one is the international. Okay, well, this is for the international title. And of course, Don Fallis is on color commentary. Have you noticed he's the manager of all these guys and these matches, but he never manages? When's the last time you saw him at ringside with anybody in any of their matches? Because he's not a real manager, he's a bullshit manager.

Real managers had real foreign objects like a tennis racket or even a cell phone, not a fucking screwdriver. Screwdriver. I wonder, but is it a flat? head or a Phillips? See, that may make all the difference. That's a good question. I think you could get a Phillips by the athletic commission, but a flathead would do a lot of damage, you know,

because it would be wider. Just a thought. But he's the bullshit manager. I mean, he's on commentary yucking it up with the other commentators doing schick. He was with baby faces for a while because the heels just suddenly were baby faces and, you know, it's just it. The execution's always poor. this is the best way to put it.

Well, again, you know, trying to figure out a family tree on the Don Callis family and whether they're supposed to be people we cheer for or boo against, doing that family tree would be like trying to figure out who parented all the Kardashian children. And in this match, you've got two baby faces and one heel the way that I looked at it, because they like ricochet and they like Osprey, no matter how the people have been portrayed, Osprey was in the heel group, they were cheering the fucking rafters off for him

at the same time as they were booing the shit out of his manager. But Osprey and Rickashay are the baby faces and take as the heel. So you got two against one in the wrong way. But basically what they did here was everything that they've ever been able to figure out how to do. the American-style aggressive parkour mixed with the Japanese indie style

depending on which two of the three had their turn in the spotlight while the other guy laid out on the floor and rested or did whatever head, whatever they do. In the first two minutes, they're pulling out

the table because they're down on the floor. And again, I think if Osprey had come along at a time through the 80s or even 90s been trained properly from the start not thought that he was probably smarter than he was when he got into business because he wouldn't have been on the internet and taught how to think about wrestling

I believe he would have been one of the best baby faces in the business I think I like AJ Stiles except for the T&A. but AJ was very, very accomplished in doing a revolutionary cutting-edge style, even though he physically got big enough to where he looked like he could handle himself and he got a bit of a promo. You see what I'm saying.

Not going to be the next fucking Stone Cold Steve Austin, but he wanted the top in-ring baby faces in the business. But you need to have guys trained how to think as well as how to move. and what moves to do. And we've talked about he needs to be produced for American television, but also he needs to be booked for any sane, rational person

instead of Tony's... I bet you Tony could write a hell of a goddamn murder mystery. What about if Tony took a free weekend? You know, he's got nothing to do anyway and rewrote murder on the Orient Express. What kind of book you think that would be? I don't know.

I can't see the book having much direction. Probably goes off on a lot of little side things and maybe some people get sent home for a while. Maybe there's a train to Bulgaria. Wait a minute. One way trip to Bulgaria. You're never getting out of your contract, boy. Something like that. People that were on the train suddenly are off the train,

or people that weren't on a train or suddenly on a train, even though they're stuck in Borgo Pass or whatever the fuck it was. It's Tony's Magic Train. You get on the train thinking, this train's great. There's fucking drugs. There's fucking women all over the place. This seems like all right. By the time you get to the last car, you're so tired of it.

But you can't get off the train. Don't you miss this train at the station? Because if you miss it, I feel sorry, sorry for you. People all over the world. And what's that coming in? Oh, my God. It's a helicopter. It's a helicopter.

He's going to save us. That's what you hope for. You hope that when you're in the last train car of the Tony Conn Express, Nick Khan just comes swooping in in a helicopter and just saves you. Just one hand out, grabs you, pulls you up, saves you. Right before you go into the ravine in the train a la Buster Keaton and the general. See, if you're going to reference film, I'll do the same thing. That's a great scene.

That's one of the best film scenes ever. still. You know, even in a train, they really did it. Well, yes, that's what I'm saying. Even back in the day, you had people like,

Vince, let's pour concrete in a fucking Corvette. Well, let's run a fucking train off the goddamn trestle. Anyway, this match,

and a bunch of people loved it on, on the Twitter machine and everything because a bunch of people landed on their feet and did just high quality tricks, as your kids used to say.

But as the basic match, one guy takes turns disappearing for no reason so the other two can do their spots, and then they all three do a little dance. And then the obvious cooperation is off the page, and you can't suspend disbelief, and there is no way to tell a story. And in the process, the baby faces do more damage to each other than the heel does to either.

one of them. And it's, and it gets to a point where it's the same thing. Are we supposed to be rooting for someone or are we just watching and America's got talent audition where these guys are going to do a bunch of cool athletic feats of ledger domain? And that's the match. And then after Osprey and Rickashay have hit each other with everything that they've ever done before. Then they decide to team up against the heel.

And when they do that, the heel was one single heel mostly kicks the shit out of both of them until they start fighting each other again. And then I wrote here notes, everybody knows sell shit to land on their feet. Now people are cheering the only heel in the match. And everything that they know doesn't work to beat anyone. And then, I'm sorry, but once again, I'm a professional. So, after a couple of drinks, the chick doing karaoke might sound like she can sing, but not if, you know, goddamn Rick Rubin's sitting in a fucking crowd, right?

And I don't, when Osprey and Rikishay, climb to the top rope and gingerly help each other balance while, Take is standing in the middle of the ring, staring, slack-jawed at him, and staggering and waiting, so that Osprey can leap up and ricochet can catch him so that Osprey can Hurricane Rana, Ricochet, who cannonballs into Take. But Take kind of dropped him, so Ricochet rolled up on his chest, two-count. I just, what the fuck? Is this the flying Walindas? Or the, it, you can be too fucking cute, can't you? Help me, Brian. Yeah, I mean, that's what you're going to get when you have Osprey and Rickishay in there together.

That's what they love to do. Those are the two guys that excel at it. Like you said, Osprey has potential beyond that. And he'll get there one day. Look, you have to look at AEW like a continuation of whatever he was doing on the Indies and in Japan. It's just more of that until he decides, all right, now it's time. He'll be in his 30s. Hopefully he's not too beat up.

But he's just going to do more of his indie stuff here. And then when the company doesn't grow and no one really gets over and they don't understand why, they'll, you know, blame us for talking about it. Well, anyway, I will get back to this thing. I like to catch her, though. I think Takesha's a star. I think he's great. Well, remember we thought that last year when we started seeing him until they,

because he disappeared and we don't know why. But now AEW is starting to add some people with some size. You know, Shelton Benjamin coming in, not that Tekecha's that big, but he's bigger than all the usual AEW dwarves. Well, we'll talk about that, I'm sure, because it's going to be interesting. When Shelton gets in there and looks like goddamn Ernie Ladd next to everybody on the fucking roster, but anyway there was a

oh here was the spot Ola Takeshhta gave Rikashay a modified tombstone off the apron through a table and I said if Rikishay gets up I'm not even watching the finish but that was the way

to get rid of him so they could actually do something more violent so something in the recent past you could done to somebody and carted them out in an ambulance as an angle and they'd been off for six weeks or two months and

come back and got revenge and blah blah blah is like okay we don't need him involved in the finish let's give him a reason to sell over here the fuck so then Osprey gives

Takesha his finish elbow and gets a one count and then he gives him another one and covers him, but then Don pulls the referee out to the floor by his leg, the old, come here, I want to talk to you a spot where he pulls the referee out.

And then suddenly, I get, they didn't show it on camera, but apparently Don Callis chloroform the referee, because we're not going to see him for the next two to three minutes from being pulled to the floor. I'm serious,

because the guy that pulled him to the floor gets in the ring and fucking gets a screwdriver out and goes to fucking stab Osprey and Osprey blocks it and he goes to give Don the tiger driver but suddenly a guy in a black hoodie comes in and remember in the previous segment we had two or three of these surprise entrances

the guy in the black hoodie comes in and hits Osprey at the back of the head with the screwdriver and then takes so long to reveal himself that the announcers are having a hum and haul when it's obvious it's his face is not being covered by the hoodie

it's who it is but it was obvious right away right away and who else is that tall in this guy and he takes the fucking thing off and it's Kyle Felcher Will Osprey's bosom buddy And Osprey's on his knees holding his head And he's staring at Kyle

And Kyle stared at Osprey And then Osprey stared at Don And then Don stared at Osprey And then Osprey looked at take a shit Who was lowering his knee pad and Osprey is kneeling there in the middle of the ring like oh please don't knee lift me but he doesn't make a move to do anything to get away and all this guy that is quigger and a hiccup

as Gordon Soler used to say and take runs and boom gives him a knee lift and covers him and Kyle throws the referee in who was still immobile from minutes previously when he got to pulled out, who made a slow three-count like he was recovering from anesthesia after colon

surgery. And he made the three-count and the new Inter-Continental Champion is now take a shit. And then Kyle gave Osprey the dreaded

tiger driver. And this was the gymnastics match on the card. And boy, did they take their job seriously. But then, again, how many attempted murders? They're not talking about hitting somebody with brass knuckles. They're going straight to the, I'm going to stab you in the face with a fucking screwdriver.

Why does it need to be a screwdriver? Just because they started using a screwdriver? Why did they start using a screwdriver? At no point did anyone bring up how dumb it is to use a screwdriver? I mean, I saw the way Kyle Fletcher was holding it when he came in the ring. So it's like, okay, he's going to bash him in the head with the side of the screwdriver? So I mean, it seems like an unwieldy way to... Yeah, those are the two options.

You hit him in the head with the side of it or you stab him with the actual screwdriver. Why would that... Who picked that in the Omega Callis days and then decide? to keep running with it. And why wasn't Osprey dead? And the thing is also, if you're going to hit somebody with the handle of the screwdriver,

then you might as well bring in a ball peen hammer because that would accomplish your task much easier. Because why use a screwdriver to fucking hit somebody with the handle? It's like using, oh, I don't know,

a baseball bat and poking somebody in the top of the head with it with two hands like a fucking stick. But anyway, that was that match that a lot of their fans raved about is what happened there. Not everyone can bunt like you. Let me ask you about Fletcher and Osprey because I've been high on Fletcher and he's picking up size

and he's got a good look and, I don't know about those jeans he was wearing, but he's got his whole thing going on and unfortunately he's got a shit manager, but he's got potential Osprey has been over. Osprey hasn't been hurt as badly as everyone else because he's still kind of doing the stuff that he wants to do.

Is this the right thing right now for Osprey, a feud with Fletcher that would establish Fletcher? Or does Osprey? I was about to say, does Osprey need to keep working with established guys, but that's a silly question. Well, there ain't a lot of them. That's it. At this point, if they will tone down the gym,

nastics and tone up the theatrics and give us something that would, okay, why did he suddenly decide to do this to his old bosom buddy and lifelong friend or whatever? What motivation did he have to, you know, want the guy to not win and to fucking turn on him like that and to give him

the, you know, Tiger fucking driver 1997. And depending on that and whether we're interested in it, yes, Kyle is getting a better physique and he's got a look going on. And he's got some size and he's a good athlete, but do we want to see the gymnastics that will appeal to the smallest degree of the audience? Or do we want to see this Kyle Feltcher being updated fucking an updated Rick Rood

or an updated some type of fucking main major main event heel is what I'm trying to articulate or just another fucking gymnast. And by the way,

with Jake Roberts and Don Cowles and now MVP's in there, they've got the tallest manager stable maybe of all time. Well, that's, you know, they got to have size somewhere. There's some kind of lewd remark you could have come back with.

I was trying to stay out of the lewdness here today, but that was the match. Takesha now the international champion. We'll see where they go with that. But what was next? Well, then here came Prince Nana, who sold his coffee and introduced swerve Strickland, who made the big entrance in near his hometown,

where he, I mean, you know, he just, he's noted all around the area as a noted arsonist, and house burner and fucking home intruder. He's got a great record. And where they chanted welcome home and whose house? Former burglar. Yes, former burglar. You may live on a block that he has recently

or torched one of the homes. No, his home was torched. He wasn't torching the home. He only breaks into him. He doesn't burn them down. That's right. He intruded in him. And the other guy is the firebug and burns him down.

I told you he was worse than me. I only break in. He burns it down, sits in a lawn chair, doesn't get arrested. Well, in that case, no wonder people are saying Swerve's house all the time. They're trying to get the attention on somebody else's house instead of their own. Anyway, whatever the fuck's going on here. He's at Washington State. That's where he's from.

And he took a long time to say anything. And I know he's milking the chance, but at some point, point, you know, in fact, he does a medical update. He's still got tingling in his neck and his legs and his fingers, sometimes goes all the way down, whatever the fuck. But he's medically cleared. Who medically cleared a motherfucker with all the symptoms that he had just enumerated out loud in front of people right there?

See, that's the time where the production should have had the cameraman just zoom in on Doc Samson's face, just to see the reaction. So, you know, he should have said just a simple tense thing. I've had this and that and the other thing. But now I'm medically clear. But anyway, and he wanted to address his future, and suddenly here came MVP with Shelton Benjamin, interrupting and promo into the ring.

The story's MVP's been emailing him, trying to get hold of him. Hadn't heard back from him. Did your minion give you my business card? But again, this was, it was a TV segment that was unfolding in a very slow-paced manner on a fucking four-hour pay-per-view. So it may have got a little more attention or, you know, if it had been a little briefer or maybe on television. Because, again, they're doing an interview angle thing on. on paper view

instead of in front of the wide audience. But the fans, while MVP was making his pitch, started chanting Swerve's house at random. That makes the talent over. They're chanting about him, but they were kind of doing it to entertain himself. And MVP said that Swerve's career was floundering and Swerve could do better with him

and not Nana, that whole thing, we've seen this preface. And then Swerve got into a whole thing. He put MVP over. He put Shelton Benjamin over as a big deal. He said, you helped pave the way for all of us, Black Resolid.

Like Shelton is Bobo Brazil. Or Bozo Brazier. Or even Bozo Brazier. And I love Shelton. I'm not knocking Shelton, but I don't know that Sheldon. Shelton can be called an African-American trailblazer in 2002. Nevertheless.

So Swerve then told NANA what MVP had been saying is true. He has lost a lot of matches with NANA and lost this and that, but he wouldn't have what he had to begin with to lose if it wasn't for Nana. But MVP, you and I could do great things together. And none of there's a lot of things about you that irk me. And he just back and forth and it was unfolding slowly like this review. And finally, Swerve said, none of the biggest thing about you is you are family.

And I don't turn on family for anybody. So MVP, shove your business cards up your ass. And then Shelton says, we weren't asking, we were telling, you're either with us or you're against us. And then Sheldon shoved Nana back and swerve shoved Sheldon, swirv, shwerve,

Shwerve, Shrelton. And the referees came in and many people were shoving the other people. And then it was over. Was that a TV segment on a pay-per-view or what? It was, however, with that said, it was one of my favorite things on the paper. P-per-view. I so far like the way MVP and Shelton have been carrying themselves there and they

look like stars in that ring. Is that a smaller ring? Is that a WCW size ring? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's an 18-foot ring. I'm pretty goddamn sure. I'm willing to be corrected if somebody's taking a tape measure to it. I mean, again, we'll see where they go with this. But Shelton, to me, looks like a star in there. He looks like he's a big guy. He stands out more than he did in WWE. Yeah. I don't know about sort of running down Nana and then say, but your family. Doesn't matter that you're my fuck up family member.

You're family. Yeah. You fucked me up out of everything. But you helped me get it too. So. Let me think of everything that's gone wrong. I lost my title. He took my teeth. They burned my house down.

But you know what? You were there for me years ago with your coffee. Let's see where they go. And let's see how Lashley gets involved in this. because you've got to figure that's where they're going. You have to figure that's going. Well, again, and already, I think Swerve needs some friends because the way they've portrayed Nana

is that I don't think anybody thinks he's going to whip MVP and Shelton and Swerve as if Lashley comes in, who's Swerve's friend or accomplice or help or whatever? No, legit. MVP. probably the baddest guy in that entire locker room, like, in the legit world right now. That's probably so, but I don't think he's wrestling. And the other thing that, and again, we'll see where they go with Lashley and even Shelton. If they're in there with an Orange Cassidy, they got a crush in Orange Cassidy.

It can't be a 50-50 match where they go 12 minutes or 20 minutes. Trading back and forth. That's what immediately defeats the purpose when you bring in guys like that. that. Same thing with Kevin Owens. When he comes in, if they have him go out there in his first match in Russell 25 minutes and even Stephen match until the finish, until the final person didn't kick out, it's not going to mean as much as going in there and doing some damage, and I hope they do that with the hurt business. Well, you know what they did? Speaking of doing some damage in the next match, this was the match that was so high on Tony Khan's wish,

list that he gave it to a two out of three falls hologram versus rigor mortis were you shocked like i was when the graphic for this popped up on the screen and it said two out of three falls well no because i had seen i had caught wind of it might be a more appropriate on twitter or something and somebody was like two out of three falls question mark question mark oh i knew nothing i went into this blind and i was i didn't know about the match let alone the stipulation Now, at least it only lasted as long as a normal fucking too long match on these programs last, but it was two out of three falls.

Remember I said the three-way, I just hate the obvious cooperation with Osprey and Rickashay and they go too far. Well, the obvious cooperation in this match made the three-way look like Frank Gotts and George Hackenshmidt. I mean, this this was the example of the fans sitting stock still and dead silent waiting for either an impressive and potentially hazardous dive or a potato

I apologize for any noise the winds are coming in but oh the wins the beast mortos who obviously Tony's a big fan of because they keep pushing this guy much better than they ever did for Hachichero for instance didn't we just see him on Wednesday get introduced with his new manager Jake the Snake Roberts? That's right. He was one of those fellas, wouldn't he? Yeah, he was one of the three guys that Jake was now managing in exchange for three guys in exchange for Lance Archer, and Jake wasn't there out there with him for a big two and three falls match. Well, I'll tell you what, from my experience, there's no way Jake was going to spend Thursday and Friday off in Washington State when he could have gone home.

or definitely he wasn't going to spend it in Spokane. One with the, did they tape that when they were in Georgia at some point? Did they even have to fly? Well, no, he came out and walked out. He walked out. Well, maybe there's trouble in that relationship. Jake, do you feel like working the pay-per-view? I'd rather not.

Okay, you don't have to. Okay. Well, I'm going to make this one short because we got a long way to go and it's probably going to take us even longer to get there. But the first fall was won by hologram with a flying dingbat. The second fall was won by rigor mortis after some more choreographed tumbling. And the third fall was won by hologram. Well, first, hologram, did you see him do the flip dive off the top rope and almost break his own leg?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was so intrigued by this because they were doing this in kind of like the break spot where they would usually put a women's match or something. And the crowd were reacting to it like that. Now, by the end of it, they were reacting, but I couldn't tell if it was because of the matcher, it was kind of like, all right, they finally did it. They finally ended it. But it was really rough going. It was a relief pop.

A relief pop. It didn't seem like the crowd was really too interested or, I mean, it didn't seem like they were too disinterested. They just weren't, they were like pod people. I mean, I don't know if they were real. Just sitting there point. We should have held a mirror up in front of them to see if they were still breathing. But they did some more shit after he almost broke his own leg. And then finally he hit a spinning sit down thing of a Bobby.

One, two, three. So he won two out of three falls. And boy, I'm telling. The sky is the limit, I think, for hologram. Literally, it is the limit because he's Tony Kahn's creation. And for no good reason, there was a two out of three falls match featuring him and his Lucha stylings here on this show. We'll see, I mean, he's made some big moves lately.

He appeared on Dynamite. Then the ratings fell into the toilet. No, it's not his fault, though, but that's where they are. What about if he changed his name and he was lucky Lucha? or Lucky the Lucha instead of Lucky Lucha. Instead of Louis the Lillac, Lucky the Lucha.

Why? And Lucky the Lucha could team up with Minnie the Moutcher. Minnie the Mouture. Yeah. That's a filthy song. Heidi, hidey, hidey, hidey. He's the living point lookout, Cap Cowboy.

How long has he been dead now? He's been dead like 35, 40 years. Something like that. No, least 35 years, I'd say. You know what I'd say to him if he was here right now? I'd say to him, Cab, what are you doing here? You've been dead for 40 years. All right, well, uh...

So then... If he came back from death, he may look like the Beast Mortos. Well, he got sent back out by a hologram. You gotta have me a hologram. We don't want you. Hologram. We don't need you. All we need is a grown-sized man.

Please stop singing. Isn't it something that this was Tony's big creation? You could see why Vince needed a wardrobe department. It's like the cheapest outfit on something that's like a homegrown creation. Creative services. You've drawn that right up for him. All righty, nevertheless, moving on. Darby Allen, apparently he has no money for car fare.

potentially doesn't have a driver's license. I believe that he had to skateboard from a slum neighborhood filled with graffiti to the arena. At one point, while hanging on the back of a bus and on his little skateboard, he's such a, such a little brat, just a mischievous little thing.

And then he made his entrance. And that same pink, that pink, do you think he ever walking? that pink thing, that pelt. Whatever. You see it in these videos it's laying on the floor in the street out in the gutter and the filth and the degradation.

The goddamn sewage. He's dragging it around in the arenas. These guys are fucking sweating all over. What do you think that thing smells like? It's got fur to it. Did that come from a flamingo? What else has pink? Thrift shop.

But no. I'm serious. Originally the species. I don't know if it's even real. He probably wouldn't want real feathers or fur. He doesn't seem like that kind of guy. He can find synthetic pink, furry feathers. When Darby came out on the entranceway, it hit me.

And I've been thinking it lately with some of the promos. He's becoming insufferable. There's something I'm starting to not like about him for the first time. And it coincides with them trying to go all the way. with him and because he's one guy that actually does improve numbers you know and a lot of people think he'll be the guy to take down moxley that's the way it's been set up but he's becoming more and more unlikable to me well but now just think about this now hold on here for a second there feller because i wouldn't even say he's insufferable yet but that's the thing is okay yeah we get

it you were when you were a young man you were the reckless skateboarding tattoo fellow and you had to sleep in your car, but apparently you were too good to get a job, bagging groceries, but nevertheless. But now what is he almost, we've established? He's past 25, isn't he? And they know he's making big money there now. 31.

Okay, now he's a 30-year-old adult man that people know is making at least high six figures a year, and who knows how much he's making. So I don't think he needs to constantly come out and say, but it was great when I slept in my car. Now you could say, okay, I worked hard and sacrificed to get where I am today, type of thing. Instead of just being the idiot that still wants to fucking jack around on a skateboard.

Still wants to sleep in his car. Yeah, we're on his couch in front of a fucking video game and being irresponsible instead of going out and trying to lead the company as the heel here in this match had made the statement last week remember on on the TV show whatever we watched on dynamite

Darby Allen's out there screaming and whining at the heel acting like a heel and like a spoiled kid and Brody King the heel was the voice of reason saying if you're if you're the face of AEW what happens when you kill your

You, we have to save you from yourself. He's the voice of reason in a calm manner. Listen, he was one of the best baby faces I've ever seen in that promo. He was just the big, lovable, I don't want my little friend to get hurt baby face. He was great. He would blew the bear. Honoring the House of Black. So they have this match where then, unfortunately, it becomes a giant, fat, tattooed indie guy

against a teeny tiny skinny, skinny tattooed indie guy. And they throw again any kind of credibility and logic out to window along with any kind of restraint. In 30 seconds, they were on the floor doing stunts with the stairs. And then Brody King puts the stairs on Darby and stands on them on the floor. Again, they're on the floor for as long as they want to be. The referees aren't even trying. and it doesn't even have to be no disqualification.

They can use all these things in front of everybody. And Brody King just throws this guy around like a sack of shit, does everything to him, but nothing beats him because it's fake. That's the only thing that you're left with the summation you're coming away from. Because after being, you know, beating up like a crash test dummy, then Darby makes his comeback at 100 miles an hour and coffin drops the guy off the top rope to the floor

but then Brody King takes back over and gets more heat on Darby and if Brody King German suplexes him off the top rope twice in a row but then both of them sell he just German suplexes together why are you selling it? and then by the time Brody King covers him, that's a two count. And then Darby pushes Brody King off the top rope who takes a back bump onto the steel stairs that are sitting on the floor.

And then Darby comes off the top rope and coffin drops Brody King who's laying on the stairs. And Brody King beats the count. he comes in at nine and then Darby hits another coffin drop one, two, three he beats this fucking giant guy and then

he was grateful and so yes he was grateful for the ass whipping because as soon as they finished with this then Brody King comes over and sticks his hand out and they shake hands

after just trying to mutilate each other What sense is this supposed to make? Where'd Buddy Matthews go? I don't know. That is a good question. Because I think he came back from Australia, didn't he? Because Ria Ripley came back. Well, I mean, I don't need Malachi black.

Where's Malachi? He's either hurt or doesn't like creative and I don't care. Can I tell you something and this is going to sound crazy? I never thought about it until the other day and then this. they should break away Brody King and make him a baby face and never reference the House of Black ever again. I'll go for that. I like that. On the promo, if he talks straight like that

and, you know, as long as they don't make them just a big sap, that could work as opposed to, you know, I'm with the creepy, spooky people. No one wants that. And they don't even show up or they're not there, or they're not booked, or their only works Saturdays or whatever it is. Sundays and holidays are the big ones,

big times. When you get that in your contract, you know you'll be farting through silk. But anyway, you know, it was about this time in the show, Brian. To be quite honest with you that I was ready to go to bed, but there was more show left. But I had a comfy bed waiting for me, and I knew that. Have you ever had its, it's, well, the clinical, psychological, They have a term for it. It's called Helix envy. Have you heard of this? I have not heard about this.

Did you get one of the new clinical studies? Well, yes, because when they come out of the clinics, you know, they're right there. And Helix envy is when you envy other people that are able to currently lay right down on their Helix sleep mattress because you know you have one. And you know how good it feels, but you're not able to lay down on it yet. because this long-ass pay-per-view will not come to an end. That's Helix envy. And right then, I wanted to kill some of the people

that could lay down on their Helix mattress because I wanted to so bad. Now that I've explained it to you, Brian, do you not suffer from that syndrome? I have multiple helix mattresses in my house for me and my family. I absolutely, most certainly do not suffer from Helix envy. I think other people suffer from it about... Well, I'm not saying that you don't have to...

I'm helix rich. I'm helix rich. No, no, no. See, you're not getting my point. It's not... You only have helix envy. It's worse when you have the helix mattress, but you do not have the time to lay down in it.

Oh, that was your point? That's my point. Because you're continuing to work to provide for yourself and the children, because all of the cult of Cornett members are our children out there. This was your point? Really? Yes. Oh, well, in that case, yes.

I get mad when I know that there's other people. They can just click that pay-per-view off and go lay on their Helix sleep mattress and get a good night's sleep and like they're floating in a cloud, like they're wrapped up in the warm belly of a kind puppy. No matter what position they like to sleep in, front, back, sideways, doggy style, missionary, cowgirl,

reverse cowgirl. No matter what kind of, mattress or what kind of firmosity or what kind of size, they got a great mattress they can lay in and sleep in because they have gotten one from helix sleep.com. But right now, I've got a helix mattress and I can't lay on it because I'm broadcasting to the people. And that's when I get helix envy. Or when I have to sit there and watch the pay-per-view upright with my eyes open instead of laid

back on one of the Helix Elite collection or one of the luxurious the big and tall or the firm or the kids mattress sometimes I'll roll myself up at a ball and sleep on the kid's mattress

and I still some of it lops over the side you don't have a kid's mattress will you stop it you couldn't get it into it anyway I got one for Harley that's what I said I can't fit in it well sometimes you can't turn yourself into a ball either. My dingbat falls off the side every once in a while. Jay dinged that white?

Jay dingbat white. No, he turned the light switch on. You said these mattresses don't vibrate. I found a motor in one of my mattresses one time, but it wasn't vibrating. It was flashing, green and red. Nevertheless. Folks, right now, if you go to Helix... That didn't happen, ladies and gentlemen, never the less. Well, that's only in your mind. Helixleep.com slash JCE. You're going to find all about this. If you've got night sweats, they'll cool you down. If you've got back pain, they'll prop you up.

If you've got bed sores, stay away from my fucking mattress. But regardless of what kind of disgusting things you do when you sleep, you can do it on a Helix sleep mattress and it'll look better and probably even smell better. As a matter of fact, they have a special mattress. mattress. A special a special mattress for people who fart loudly, convincingly, and

stinkingly with the stench of grisly death, it's got a, like an odor eater type of thing, only instead of your foot, you put your ass on the mattress, and it'll eat the odor up. Now, 2% of people that sleep on

that for more than a month disappear entirely. Okay, there's the whammy of a made-up story with a made-up statistic. It could be part of their daily hygiene problems. There are no farting mattresses or mattresses that help with fart. Whatever the farting situation may be, whatever your sleeping situation may be. I had a whoopi cushion one time. One time?

I had a whoopee cushion one time. There can be a farting mattress. Folks, you're going to get 20% off, though. Even if it's passing gas, boy. Even if it's just puffing one out there, you're going to get 20% off all the mattress orders, farting or not, if you go to helixleep.com

slash JCE, H-E-L-I-X-Sleep.com slash J-C-E, and boom goes a dynamite. 20% off all the mattress orders. I would think that a majority, you know, we probably now, Brian, since we have such a wide audience,

and we've been talking about Helix for some, long. There are children out there that have been conceived on a Helix Sleep mattress while listening to our program. And I think that the parents should write that down, put it in a sealed envelope, and when the kid turns 18, then he hears the truth about exactly of the circumstances he was conceived under. Are you there? Once again, ladies and gentlemen, helixleep.com. slash J.C. Would you like that if you opened up a note from your

parents saying, yeah, we were listening to Led Zeppelin 4 and Mom had had too much to drink. And that's why you're here. What would be the purpose of this note? Well, just to let the child know about his

conception and how he was brought into the world with love and care. Or potentially the product. of a backseat grope fest. Well, I don't know what the hell is going on over there. Ladies and gentlemen, one more time for a mattress, helix sleep.com. Yeah. Slash. JCE.

But Jim? 20% off and you don't have to use the backseat if you've got a helix. Let's get back to AEW and AEW. I'm supposed to say AWD dynamite. AEW. What is this? Ressel Dream, the annual tribute to Antonio Inoki. Annual tribute, I think.

It's not once a year. It goes all year long. Because now we were up to the tag team title match, and they did a long video I wrote of somebody giving private party a pep talk. Amazing red. Well, I've had the announcer said afterwards, I was trying to zip to the next match, and I didn't recognize this person as a wrestler and part of it,

because were they around a campfire? How dark was this fucking room? It was like, it was like the fearmonger on creature features. Back when I was a fright night when I was a kid, the flashlight under his face. Anyway, he gave him a pep talk. Oh, private party so that they could go into this tag team title match

against the Hardley boys and have confidence. Because they beat them five years ago. Remember that fluke finish that we, everybody said, oh, they're trying to elevate private parties. and make new stars are the Hardley Boys. And we said, no, it was a, it was a fucking fluke, an accident that they won. And that's the way it came off.

Look at how unselfish they are. Private Party will be stars now. Well, five years later, that's the last thing that they've done that anybody is referencing at this point. You know, the video was a good video. There's been a couple things lately. There was a promo where they got fired up before Moxley No Sold for them. and this video, I mean, they've done a couple of good things

that they probably should have done a long time ago for them. And I think maybe for the reasons, for a variety of reasons, I think the fans there expected them to win. And I think the fans, well, I don't want to ruin the review, but I think the fans really wanted them to win and were kind of really bummed out when they weren't. When they didn't, I can't speak.

When they didn't, and that wasn't the only, match to bum people out on this show, so it was a weird, a weird feeling all around, and it took them a while to get the fans into this at all. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, bum out. Well, and private party, by the way, announcing them at a combined 381 pounds doesn't help the perception that everybody is diminutive on this. Two guys came be 400 pounds together? What the fuck?

anyway and of course the Cucamonga kids did a promo before the bell about how that a private party among the things they called them was a mid-card act

anybody who uses the term act has never actually been in the legitimate real professional wrestling business it's not a fucking wrestling term oh they're an act I just have always hated that

that's Uncle Dave does that Well, they're a tag team act. Not since vaudeville died, Dave. Then they went out to the stage and started doing overly choreographed. I'll boost you up. Grab my foot. Here we go, rah, rah, go state cheerleading routines on the stage. And then for no reason, the private party guide,

did a flip dive off the top of the entranceway onto his opponents and his own partner. It just knocked a shit out of all of them. And then the two of them go to the ring, and of course it's the Knox, the corpse referee. He rings the bell to start the match. Why, if the match is not even going on and you can't even win this way,

and of course you can't, why would you just climb up to the goddamn top of the entrance way, dive off the fucking thing, on to the top of your own guy. And with all this going on, why would the referee then ring the bell to start the match

after we've just had a four-way brawl on the stage with fucking dives from 20 feet in the air? It's just ridiculous. And they've made up all these alleged rules to attempt to

justify some of it, but it's just again, we can't ring the bell to start to match until the guy's getting the ring. They just sprayed Agent Orange on the fucking guy, but as soon as he gets through the ropes, he'll be okay. His skin's peeling, but we're used to that. And then they do the

souped up square dancing. The same spots they've been doing for years and years. I'm talking about the buckaroos and it's silence it's silence and there's the

cartwheels and the they don't have to tag they just jump in or stay in and they do the spots where everybody stands around and then runs around and the people are kind of dead and then every once while if it

fits their purposes they'll tag and then they'll go out and do flips off the barricade. And I wrote, is there a carbon monoxide leak in the arena? The crowd seems to be in a coma. Remember when the bucks were getting reactions? It was the one thing you couldn't take away from them.

Yeah, we hate their stuff. But the fans go into these shows are really reacting to them. They don't react to them at all. At all. Now they get upset if they win? But not for the reasons like, oh, the dastardly heals one. It's like, oh, fuck, more of these. guys? Well, this match, I don't know how long it was. It seemed like it wouldn't end. The heels,

the buckaroos seemed to outsmart the baby faces most of the time. And then I don't know what the finish was because I got to the part where they were fighting on the top turnbuckle. And one private party guy ended up holding the other private party guy. guy on his shoulders like a chicken fight type of thing, like when the Road Warriors would set up the doomsday device and the victim would be on the shoulders of animal. But one guy has his partner on his shoulders and then Nikki Jackson drop kicked the guy

on the shoulders and he gave his own partner a reverse Hurricane Rana. and when I saw that I say you know what they can do the rest of this without me and that had to be 20 or 30 minutes into this thing so that's what I saw

you know and I've got to be honest the next one Brian I hate to say this but Chris Jericho's match may have been my favorite of the night simply because it was the least offensive and they actually did the right finish I've said that of all the lost opportunities

and the dropped balls and in the booking and the people who could have maybe been better than they were but weren't because they got booked back under Mark Briscoe is the biggest one but it was a single match even with goddamn Tom Fulery and again they did the right finish even though some of the stuff they did to get there. Again, they get in a fight.

They go to the floor for suplexes and elbow drops. I don't know why they set the ring up. But at least the fans get... They get up and they get going for Briscoe because they like him. Most of the AEW baby faces are either bland, sissy dickheads or whiny or some fucking issue. Briscoe's got personality and he's got the track record and the family connection

and the sympathy from the fans and you know they could have done something a year and a half ago but but then again they've still got to there's no reason to gimmick this thing up

Jericho supposedly draws the attention of Aubrey Ed so that Big Bill can pull out a table and lean it up on the desk, but here comes pockets, and he beats up the seven-foot giant, and they fight off, and the match continues.

And then Jericho gets some fucking heat, and they're on the floor for another several minutes or so. But did you notice if you... Jericho taken over, killed the crowd. They love to see Mark Briscoe, do his shit, but when Jericho takes out, wake me up when Mark comes back. They like seeing Chris Jericho take a beating,

is what it was. Well, you can look at it either way, but at least when Mark is doing something, there's more interesting shit going on, right? But anyway, then they gimmick up some more shit. Jericho gets the walls of Jericho, and Briscoe gets a rope break. And so then Brian Keith comes out and hits Mark Briscoe in the head with a baseball bat,

but the end of it, like everybody hits that way, and gets a two count, and then here comes Rocky Romero and glombs Brian Keith, and they fight off. And now Mark can do the flip dive over the top rope on Jericho so they can break the table. and more false finishes Jericho mocks Mark and the memory of Jay by doing a jade driller and hits it and covers him and I'm thinking oh no and it's a two count

and then Mark hoax up and he fired back and made the comeback and hit the Death Valley driver and the Froggy Bow and look to the sky and hit the jade driller and one two three If there was 30 seconds of anything that was right about professional wrestling on this program, it was that 30 seconds. Your thoughts? They lost me after Orange Cassidy chased away Big Bill with multiple Superman punches.

Happy Mark Briscoe won. I hope they do the right thing and get him the fuck away from Chris Jericho. And also enough with this conglomeration shit. Just have him on his own as a single. well they put it they put every bland useless you know or somebody that tony is either ruined with the booking or had no idea for out there so mark can talk for him but it again people were into briscoe and it was the least ridiculously overdone or choreographed thing they did all night so but we were now three hours and 15 minutes into this fucking pay-per-view and 445 overall with the pre-show.

And we've still got this main event to persevere through. And they did the history package. Brian Danielson and John the Plummer Oxley, the history package is supposed to kind of bring you up to date and explain the issue why these guys are fighting what they're mad about, what they're going for. Well, it recapped everything that has been done, but there was still no explanation of why that

what's Moxley talking about? Why did he do this to Danielson? Why did it have to be this way or it didn't have to be this way? Or it's not our company anymore? Or I'm not a real boy Pinocchio or whatever the fuck he's talking about. we still don't know right when we're getting in the ring for this match just wait until i fall in love with shakespeare he wouldn't be able to muddle his way through all the words i don't know for a guy that alas poor claudio for a guy that acts like he has brain damage in a number of ways he does have an extensive

vocabulary that's why he hates danesson introducing the books it polluted his mind So did you notice that when they had Moxley enter through the bowels of the Tacoma Dome, they walked past a merchandise stand that was so empty, they didn't even bother to turn the lights on. What the fuck? Hey, can I say something real quick here at the top? Please do. Right at the top. You know, you started calling him the plumber early on, and there was a while where he was just completely out of shape.

It didn't look like he was working at it all. He just, he looked. he did not look like a professional wrestler that would be as intimidating as his character should be or wants to be. He'd given up on life, yes. And I'm also not advocating for steroids. I'm not saying that steroids are the answer for everybody or saying that people are necessarily on them.

But Moxley came out here with a new physique. He looked, I was about to say, he looked like he was on a health program of some type. He wasn't the pale, fleshy plumber that he was of some time back. And he shaped his facial hair a little. differently it stood out, but also, again, for the first time ever, he had fucking veins bulging on his biceps. I've never seen that on Moxley ever. I've seen a few veins bulge on his head and neck.

That's the only thing I'll give him credit for with this whole thing. If he's going to act like, if he's going to be this badass character, he has to look it, and he's starting to look it. So the work's not there. He looks like a wrestler now, but the problem is he still wrestles like shit. it. And he still has these delusions and these choices he makes where, you know, maybe is it the bank addicted drug robber that's writing his material now because he expressed his admiration for that guy? He's the man. Just wait until he puts out a book of poetry. He has to.

Much of Moxley in each of these. So then we hear the final countdown for possibly the final time. And he makes the entrance and he's up on the turnbuckle as Brian Danielson and the fans are ready to sing. It's the final count. But before they get there, Moxley jump starts it and they go to the floor.

And they have a big fight on the floor. But the final countdown is still playing and the fans are chanting yes and Moxley is choking Danielson with a camera cable but then Danielson starts choking Moxley and Marina Schaefer jumps up on Danielson's back and Moxley stops Danielson

but now the fans are singing the song while Danielson is getting beaten up because they don't want to miss the opportunity to sing the fucking song and this is the last time that poor band Europe they have to cancel the vacation next year. Oh, fuck, and the time share?

You think they're going to be able to get out of that? But so now, and then they get in the ring and the referee calls for the bell. Even if they're going to do that, why don't they just do it once in the course of the night? It's every fucking match.

And again, the people love Danielson. So they were with this. and Danielson has a way about him of keeping people's attention, even though someone else doing it might not be able to. But you know, I'm sorry, go ahead. I've come to hate his matches, and we'll probably talk about it on the drive-through because I've got a lot of questions,

and one of them was about a quote that I saw, where he basically said, he doesn't wrestle for the fans, he just wrestles for the way he wants. It's like a selfish thing, and he recognizes it. and it's really hit me lately. His matches have become slow-plotting, unnecessary at times matches to me.

Well, but while he's in there with Moxley, which is the most egregious offender, because Moxley's going to do his style. Moxley Pall drives Danielson on the announced desk. He chokes him with the cable. They're not even trying to be, or not to be counted out, even though this is not,

supposed to be anything goes match, it's the same fucking rules. It's a set, not lack of rules. It's the same shit that everybody's doing all night. And Moxley gets a long fucking heat that's not that scintillating. And Marina Schaefer pulls up the floor

mats and Danielson ends up backdroping Moxley on the naked concrete and make it a comeback, but Moxley would take back over they did the face off and they traded the forearms I wrote Danielson makes another comeback more yes kicks please go home and I mean we were almost a half an hour in at this point

the yes kicks are slow they're really really slow and you know well you don't want to blow the fans up if they're going yes yes yes yes after 27 or 28 kicks they're you know and then Marina Schaefer got kicked out of ringside for pulling Danielson's leg. I think they're pulling our leg. And the match kept going. That's the only thing I've seen Moxley selling weeks was Marina Shafir game kicked out of ringside.

He acted worried. Yes. Apparently, she knows something he doesn't want to get out. She knows something he doesn't, Jiu-Jitsu. Do you think they're going to reveal that she's the one that's training him to beat all the Home Depot clerks?

They haven't really explained anything about the relationship or why it just randomly started at all. Well, no, exactly. But anyway, speaking of excessive, so Moxley then gives Danielson his double-armed DDT finish on the floor, on the concrete, where the pads have been pulled up. And then rolls him in a ring and covers him and gets a two-count. And I'm like, what the, this is the guy who said, I need neck surgery. By the end of the year. And so then they go more back and forth. And I wrote, I wasn't as tired of my last hernia surgery as I am of this match.

And then Moxley gave him his finish in the ring and got a one count. And then Danielson gets up and spits in Moxley's face and slaps him. So Moxley just picked him up and gave him a cut. gotch pile driver you know with a hook and the the leg who was it that was doing that in recent years it was doing the pile drivers

like that maybe it was it Claudio was a Claudio might have been Claudio but it was somebody in ECW did it but anyway he gives him the gotch pile driver he didn't cover him he put on a chokehold from behind

so Danielson in selling that choke wildly like, oh my gosh, I've got to escape, I'm trying to get out, I can't get out. He killed the pile driver. Because after you've dropped a guy that needs neck surgery on his fucking head with a gotch pile driver, wouldn't he be incapable of selling that wildly and why did you need to choke him? But nevertheless, he couldn't get the ropes. He fell down and the referee rang the bell.

and the crowd was bullshit. They didn't like that one either. And not in the, oh my God, I can't believe he one way, but in the, what the fuck was that way? Yeah, I saw someone say this right after the match, and I laughed. They said, you know, it's kind of like that NWO throw garbage in the ring heat. I said, no, it's not like that at all.

They didn't throw any garbage in the fucking ring. They were upset this happened. The garbage was already in the ring. They were upset this happened. the way it happened. It wasn't just like, oh, the heels won, so the fans were upset. No, these are AEW fans.

They were upset about the way it transpired. The finish, and then the post-match, but the finish. The finish led a lot of people down, I think. Well, they beat Danielson in his home state, flat, with a rotten finish in a match that was way too long, and it wasn't what they wanted to do. see. And I don't even know

if they'd wanted to see it if they understood why that Moxley did all these things to Danielson. And obviously, Danielson doesn't know either or else why as he would have come out and said. But nevertheless, the attempted murder is not over.

I think the only thing they killed was the town, but... At that point, at that point, the fans were just upset after the finish and the way again, it wasn't like a roll-up or anything, it was complete annihilation of Brian Danielson with a choke. They were let down. I think what happened after it was what made a good portion of,

from what we heard from some feedback and from what I felt watching it, that's where I was like, this is bullshit. What is this? Well, and there maybe is one NWO comparison, because remember when the NWO beat up the WCW guys that were supposed to be the baby faces, every fucking week and they couldn't whip anybody. Maybe there's some correlation here, but

so Moxley is now the new AEW champion. They didn't even elevate a young guy because they don't have one ready. They put it back on the worst pushed wrestler in the business today. And now they pull out the plastic bag and they're going to put the bag over Danielson's head again.

But here comes Wheeler, Utah, and Darby Allen, and they hit the ring and all four of the heels scatter like cockroaches. And you're saying, well, wait a minute, there's four of them, two of the other guys, and when does Moxley ever sell anything? But then suddenly, Utah, oh, Wheeler, useless, gloms Darby with a knee and turns on him. If he was going to turn on him, why didn't he turn on him last week?

What I do. And then... Turn on him to become heel again. He was a heel who then suddenly was baby face because he didn't go along with the other heels and now he's just a heel again. So it's not like this is any different

than what he was. And he's a wishy-washy heel. And they duct tape Darby to the ropes in very sloppy fashion. But they duct tape him to the ropes, so then Moxley gives Wheeler the bag, and Wheeler puts it over Danielson's head, and security can't get in

because they're playing King of the Mountain with them. And then here comes Private Party. Did you see what Moxley did to Private Party? Oh, no, I missed that. Here came Private Party, but out on the floor, Moxley front face-locked both of them. of them. Oh, I did see that. Yes, I did. Yes, yes, yes. And he drug them over to the railing and

had neutralized both these motherfuckers, one under each arm. Maybe it was the fucking armpit B.O. I'm not sure. So then Jeff Jarrett comes out and Moxley no-sails him and beats him up. And in the ring... You know who no-souled Jeff Jarrett more than Moxley? Do you hear Jim Ross on commentary? No, because I was watching this fiasco unfold. What would he say? I'm paraphrasing, but Jeff Jarrett, oh no. Well, while all that was going on, Claudio in the ring had gotten a chair and put Danielson's neck in the fucking chair.

and they end up the heels after they put a plastic bag over his head, after they beat him with all these various moves, then they pilmanize his neck in the chair. And then more job guys, it could have been their top guys. There's no real difference. Come in and the heels leave through the arena and then they do the long,

if it had been a hot angle, it would have been great. But they did the deal where they wheeled the stretcher out for the Danielson and the stay with it with the EMTs are taping him to the backboard and treating him. And Sockface was trying to cry on commentary. I've never seen Muxley for a long time. I've never seen this is so horrible.

And the smartest audience in the best audience in the, business, and I use that term in the colloquialism of knowing the behind-the-scenes shit, not in terms of measuring intelligence quotient, the smartest audience in the business, an entire pay-per-view of mayhem and attempted murder and completely implausible shit, is climaxed by over 45 minutes from start to finish, of this goddamn match and three, it took three attempted murders to finally

send him out on a stretcher. And nobody even got stabbed with a screwdriver in this one. But what more can be fucking done? It's ridiculous. Is this going to get any heat on Moxley? I mean, any kind of

no. He walked through the crowd. Listen, he walked through the crowd. If this was done in, any time where there was real heat, would he be able to just walk right back through the crowd? Even if he had Marina Shafir, I don't know if that would stop everyone. He wouldn't have been able to walk through the crowd. So instead, again, people know, that crowd knows what's up.

So they were just disappointed with what transpired and how it transpired. There was a groan when the plastic bag came out. Because we gruntled when it happened a couple weeks ago. And they do it again. But in any kind of crime scene, uh, Sergeant. What was the cause of death? Well, he was shot. He was suffocated with a pillow.

He was choked to death by the bruises around his neck. And also, we believe he may have been poisoned. This is so bad. And the problem is it's Tony Kahn's fault for letting this on the show, for booking any of this, for being behind any of this. But the problem is Moxley. And I'll say it, Danielson, have really bad instincts when it comes to what's good for professional wrestling television.

There's stuff they personally like that they're personally marks for, and they try to bring it to the national stage without any idea of how to properly do execution. And this is what you get. And Tony Kahn's not going to say no, and he's not smart enough or, he's not smart enough to fix whatever's wrong,

and he's not strong enough to say no to any of these guys wanting to do these things. It's important to know, Danielson put over Moxley here, That's Danielson's choice. That's make no mistake. That's Danielson's choice. It could have been Darby.

And, you know, people think that it may eventually go to Darby. It could have been Darby here. You talk about putting over a younger guy. I'm not saying that's the perfect guy in the perfect world, but in AEW. There aren't too many people that it would really help. And I think this pay-per-view please the AEW fans that watch for work rate and pissed off people that watched to invest in any of the characters.

I agree with you. What do you think of the crowd reaction here? Again, they didn't... Just outside of Seattle. They didn't like it, but it's not just because they fucked the hometown guy. It's because there was an element to me of... We went through all that for this. You know, just choking.

him out and they're oh and yeah it better be Shane McMahon at this point behind this but where would Shane be what what landmark event does it take now to get Shane to show himself if this wasn't the place to reveal him if he had anything to do with it I don't know but that's the other thing they're making a Sally Moxley's doing this on behalf of a greater cause a bigger leader a fearless leader I'm not sure it has to be if it's like some fucking indie guy, it's going to be a problem. These fans are really, like, that's the thing. People are now thinking it could be Shane McMahon, even if it's not, it has to be

someone. If it's Kevin Owens, that's at least someone, but that's not for a while. Well, and besides that, I don't think it'd make a lot of sense, but I don't think there's a higher power. I don't think that Moxley is going to be subservient to anybody in his own fantasy angle here. I think it's some type of... not motivation, but mindset

that he is found and he's still going to be the fucking boss of this thing. I don't think he's going to let anybody else be the one to fuck the dog and him just hold its head. That's just me, though. What do I know? I'm only right all the time. Well, Moxley, once again, for either the third or fourth time, I'm not sure, the AEW World Champion,

Brian Danielson seemingly done as a wrestler, although I'm sure we will see him again. He's done as maybe a full-time wrestler, if you can call what AEW is full-time. But he's apparently... Takes up a lot of my time. He's apparently going home and... Well, speaking of going home and coming back from home,

MJF showed up to confront Daniel Garcia, but Adam Cole came up, showed up to confront MJF and now if Garcia put MJF out of action but so did Adam Cole when the devil people so does that mean that basically Adam Cole

and Daniel Garcia have both proven they can kick the shit out of MJF but MJF is the only one that draws any ratings Oh yeah the misuse of MJF because of Tony Kahn's booking is a major story over the last year. Whatever we want to say about the bro chacho shit, and I say shit, because I hated it.

Yeah, yeah. It was working. I didn't like it, but it sold like more t-shirts than anything they've ever done. So there was an element of that, and then... MJF did that for him, thank you very much. And then from that point forward, look at the way MJF was used before he left, when he came back, and then I guess the second time he came back

and now he's in this thing with Adam Cole and maybe Daniel Garcia and I think he's on like a film set I mean again he left the film set and I saw there was a video on Twitter someone had a him with the Adam Sandler movie is it happy Madison is that it you know

no happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore you're thinking of Holly Madison she was the penthouse pet and concubine of Hugh Heffner I think I was thinking of Billy Madison the movie, but either way. Well, you'd be happier with Holly. Probably so.

But where are we going now? Happy holidays. It was your story, and then you started talking about naked women and threw everybody off. But the point is he's on a film set. I don't know how much, is he going to be flying into dynamite every week? Well, Tony's got a plane, but boy, if I was, if I was MJF, I'd say, you know what, won't you let one of these other motherfuggers hospitalize me. I'll be gone for another couple months,

and I'll come back and let another one hospitalize me. You can get six hospitalizations out of me this year. As long as I can agree not to get Ray Phoenixed. You hear about that? Apparently Ray Phoenix, Tony's adding, was it eight months to his contract? Oh, yes. Well, and, you know, we mentioned that Jesus, it's not like that he was overworking them while they were under contract.

He probably paid them per capita more money than most people have ever made per match like he does the rest of these guys. So I don't really have a lot of, you know, sympathy at that level. Tony's not being a nice guy anymore. Imagine that. So one time he takes our advice

and people get on him for it. He can't win. He really can't. No, well, he can't win. No, I'll agree with that too. But yeah, sometimes as mama... Like a maniac. And the maniac out there with the anomac.

You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. He looked crazy out there with the Anokies. Absolutely bat shit out of his fucking mind. If that guy came up to the police in a fucking target parking lot, they would tase him. Well, you excited? One last question about all this. Are you excited? Are you filled with the jolts of electricity like you were tased at the idea of a moxley

and this heel stable of, just everyone he was doing stuff with already. Yuda and Claudio and Pac and Marina Shafir, are you excited about this run? Is he considering his lack of selling and everything else the perfect guy? He doesn't sell anything, including tickets. Is he the perfect guy to be the top heel in the company right now? Well, good Lord.

It's like the nicest guy in prison. Now he's got four minutes. a woman, it is group that we don't know what the fuck's going on with and why they've suddenly begun acting this way and talking like this. But they've set up Darby Allen to be his next

challenger. Maybe is this a short transitional stand the man's stasiac type of world title reign for Moxley? Because they probably said, well, we don't want Darby to beat Danielson because well, no, they wouldn't say that because they're both baby

faces. That makes too much sense. but I can't believe he's going to hold this thing for a long time. But now that he's got the strongest army in the company, don't they need to beef up the goddamn ass-kicking ability of the AEW baby face side? You got one group that's stabbing people with screwdrivers, and the other group it's fucking suffocating them. And what are the baby faces doing, rapping and fucking shooting videos? I think they need some ass kickers over on a babyface side.

Well, they've got to do something different. We'll see what happens. But that was AEW wrestle dream. It's like a fever dream. The brainchild of the legendary Antonio Inoki. Brian, let's end this program today by asking all of the cult of Coronet members to join us in the Honorable Antonio Anoki San's favorite chant. Ready? One, two, three. Thank you, son. Fuck you, son. Bye-bye, son.