Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 557: Jim Reviews WWE Crown Jewel 2024

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews WWE Crown Jewel 2024! Plus Jim reviews WWE Smackdown and talks about WWE ID, Baron Corbin, George Hackenschmidt, The Fog, and much more!  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornet. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag deep art. Onet. Well, he's net. Fornet experience today, the world champion of Saudi Arabia has been crowned. The bloodlines are fighting over the family jewels.

And the WWE made another $50 million. last weekend. We're going to talk about all that and more, and joining me, Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. co-host to you, he's the crown jewel of podcasting, the great Brian last, everybody.

Hello, hi, Jim, a pleasure to be here once again. I think we're going to have a good time or at least pretend to. But it's your show. I'm sure it'll be great. Oh, I'm thrilled that you're thrilled to be, here. At least I didn't call you the family jewel of podcasting, but that may be more apropos now that I think about it. Who was it? Was it Scotty? Scotty the body before he became

Raven. Well, remember Craig Johnson, the announcer they had for global wrestling in Dallas? Underrated announcer. It looked at Keith Oberman, so it gave him legitimacy. Well, he did, well, nobody knew who Keith Oberman was at 19, 1990, though. Yeah, he was on Sports Center, 1991. He was on I'd never seen him. But nevertheless, Craig Johnson was a man about six foot five, six foot six inches tall. And when he would do the fucking promos with the, even the bigger boys looked like the smaller boys, right? And then he's interviewing, was he Johnny? No, he would have been Scotty Flamingo at that point.

In GWF, he was Scott Anthony. Scott Anthony and the brother of Mark Anthony. I don't know about that, but he was Scott Anthony. And he would say, oh, where, oh, where art thou? But nevertheless, Scott Anthony looked at him one day and said, you're the biggest Johnson I've ever seen. Maybe that's why the show wasn't a hit on ESPN. That's why the African investors pulled out, actually, was that comment.

Olu, Oli, Oliani. Oli, Oli, a little, a lady. What did you think when those guys from the Shinemannaki Post in Atlanta, the ones who were causing trouble at the center stage tape all of a sudden, you know, because they knew Pedicino, they were involved in the GWF and, you know, Scott Hudson later went on to WCW, but what did you think when what were essentially just smart fans got involved and got a chance to treat it seriously on TV? Well, and in all honesty, my opinion in hindsight may be colored by the fact that I got

to know Scott and he was a very respectful smart fan. And those guys appreciate him. the business. And I'm sure there may be a VHS tape of them all, you know, fucking wearing clown outfits and dancing around in tutus or something on some independent show in front of 60 people in the 90s or whatever. But that era of smart fan that actually did get invited to be into business was not as, what's it, over the top as some of today's on. or hadn't developed the bad habits because there was an internet that told them everything about the business they needed to know before they talked to anybody that knew anything about to business. Does that make any sense to you? Yes, it does.

So, but, and Scott did a very good job. I've done commentary with him for, oh, God damn it. For somebody. And he did a very good job. He was an excellent straight man. not in the Bud Abbott style, but more in the Gordon-Souli style. All right, well, so- Oh, is this my show?

This is more than the Alfred Hitchcock style today, here. Hey, it's a hit, maybe a goddamn tragedy of the Romeo and Juliet and Mark Anthony. Where are thou? Speaking of tragedies, we got to establish at the top of the program and then move on that this is being recorded, no matter when you might hear it before the election, here in America, for those of you around the world, and in Tunisia. So we have no idea like everybody else because it hasn't happened yet.

What's going to happen? But either we will, by the time you hear this, live in a free and democratic society or the kingdom of Trumpistan. And if that's the case, we'll have a lot of apologizing to do to the folks I mentioned around the world for putting you guys in fucking trouble also.

But nevertheless, before... For all the people that wrote me in, I'm sorry it didn't work out this time, but if we all get together and mobilize, we have another shot in four years. I understand that that was outweighed by the number of people who wrote you off. Is that...

Hey, that's not nice. Now, that's not nice. That was the fake news they talk about that I heard that. Somebody made that up. I don't mean to spread disinformation. Who made that up? Or misinformation.

Would that be, would it be disinformation or misinformation? What word should I be using here? If you're the one creating it and it's a diversion? Well, it's not a diversion. I think it's just misinformation. But if I'm not doing it on purpose, is that just dumb information? You're doing it on purpose. If it's for malice.

You're not getting off the hook. You're not getting off the hook. If it's with malice, would that be malice information? Mama Cornette at one point. her life, worked for the Chamber of Commerce down in Louisville, Kentucky, downtown. And she, on

the phones, on the, she on the switchboard. And so many people would call in those days, that's something you did before there was an internet. You would call to find out certain things about the business rulings or practices or whatever the case, the Chamber of Commerce in Louisville.

And so when they put her on the information desk, she liked to be referred to as misinformation. Brumch. All right. All righty then. Did I mention I think so.

I'll tell you. I'll tell you, just just swing at one of them. Look at you here. I'm wearing these goddamn I'm wearing these goddamn new headphones. The experience last week was when I could only hear you

out of one of my ears, which was one too many apparently. Was that not the case? That was not the case. It was an enjoyable story. show you liked it no but oh yeah and and we loved it it was uh it was last week that i couldn't hear out of one ear and then i announced that i had the new headset on uh the drive-thru and now this is the first experience and this thing is tighter it's like wearing a vice on my head it's smoohing my ears

the other day we loosening it for so long when i got off afterwards and i took the thing off my ears kind of peeled off the side of my head. Well, A, it is new, but secondly, just loosen it a little bit. It doesn't have to be, it's not an set. Well, it won't, it'll loosen long ways, but it won't loosen wide ways. I do not have a preternaturally large, wide head. I don't know what kind of pinhead fucking normally buys this brand of whatever the you sent these to me.

They're great headphones. They're great headphones. Did you get a child? size or a pinhead size. They don't offer those on the on the Amazon. You don't get to pick. Well, you must have got, I'm taking them off now. Oh, God damn.

See, I got sweat behind me ears now. It's like putting a vice clamp by the French angel Maurice Tilley on the sides of my head. Do I have to pay for these? Is there a petty cash fund

in the Arcadian Vanguard Network? offices that handles things like this for these things that are squishing my fucking head. No, petty cash was used up when Hotchkiss had to order that cake and send it to you under the name Jody Arias or something. I forget what it was. Oh, no, no, she's in jail, isn't she? She ought to still be.

God damn for any... Look that up. If there's any goddamn justice, that fucking bitch ought to still be in jail. I thought that was the name of your fan who sends you the cakes and stuff. No, Jody Arias is a goddamn famous. murderous. Oh, what's the name of the woman who says the cakes? Joni Aries. That was close.

Is the cool? If you were close to Jody Aries, you might be evidence at a fucking murder trial on a slab. And speaking of other people that you may have misidentified. Please, no cakes from prison. I guess that's the point. No, unless they've got a file in it. Well, I guess the cake coming out of a prison to you wouldn't have to have a a file in it. It would only be if you're sending

a cake into this that's the rule of files. It's a file with compromising information. No, a file. I know what you mean, but that's to play on words to get the file out. Good Lord, I'd like to get the F out. So did I mention to you also, you had me some verclimped on your show the other day.

Mine and Stacey's anniversary was Halloween also, which was last week. But I didn't mention to you. that one of the Halloween movies that we watched with a little Harley Quinn sitting there curled up after our anniversary dinner of delicious G&M crab cakes from Maryland got to plug those again

and my delectable fillets. We watched the fog. How long has it been since you've watched the fog? Oh, I don't know. Whenever it was last on TV. Well, it was on TV on Halloween. Oh, why didn't you? see it.

You didn't see. See, well, now you've lied to me already in this story. The last time it was on TV

on something I was watching. On somebody when it happened to show up on something you were in front of. Do you know

what the professional wrestling connection is to the fog? Yes. John Carpenter follow-up horror movie after

Halloween. Yes, of course. Everyone knows there is a fog around the brain of Tony Kahn. No, you can reveal it

if you indeed know it or are you vamping around as Bill Barron's would say because you can't grasp. You know what? I don't even remember the last time I saw the fall. I don't remember, was it a deep fog? Was it a London fog? No, God, oh, for heaven's sake. Was it like a Cheech and Chong? It was

the fog. The fog. Don't go. The fog is glowing. Stay out of the fog. You're there in Is it Los Angeles? No, no, that's that's a methane gas air pollution. Yeah, that's smog. Smog. It's northern

California. It's a coastal town. It's the radio station, the local radio station there is on the air from like 6 o'clock in the evening until like 1 in the morning. More on the owner of the radio station in a minute. And they're having a big Founders Day celebration. This small little inlet town. It's right on the coast there. And suddenly, the night before they're going to have this, a fog rolls in, a very mysterious looking fog, and strange things begin happening. And the owner of the radio station, when all the power goes out

and the fog infiltrates the power systems and blows the telephone lines and everything, the radio station is the one that's transmitting from the lighthouse that can tell the people in town to stay away from the fog. and come to find out that the fog contains the leper colony inhabitants that were murdered

a hundred years previously by the founders of that town in order to establish a more perfect union in that town and by stealing all their gold. And they came back to get to fucking gold. But the owner of the radio station and the DJ was Adrian Barbeau.

Well, that was John Carpenter's wife. Yes. And that's the wrestling connection right there. Bingo! And even Stacy, who is a native of Northern California, was not aware that, was that her first television?

It had to be her first television job. Yeah. Adrian Barbeau was the big-time wrestling girl for Roy Shire. On San Francisco TV and what would that have been like 67ish, 8ish, 9ish, thereabouts. And she would stand next to the lineup of the Cow Palace as they were announcing it. And as did all of the, what were they, was it Miss Wrestling or Miss Big Time Wrestling? I thought it was just Miss Wrestling, but I'm not sure.

Well, I think, and one time, boy, one of them, they tried to make her marry Tim Woods as a goddamn, damn angle, but she wouldn't do it. But you could have missed her and Mrs. Wrestling. Could have even put it on their driver's license. But anyway... But she has said in interviews that working with Roy Shire made it easy to work with B. Arthur.

And also for that matter, to work with fucking leper colony inhabitants coming back from beyond the grave to take their gold back. Anyway, speaking of things coming back from beyond the grave.

Hopefully he won't want to take anything back with him. But everybody has been talking about this on Twitter and we got a bunch of questions, comments, hey, what do you think? Have you seen this type of deal? Footage has been found of all people, of all people from the not in the golden age of wrestling, but the fucking Victorian age of wrestling. George Hackenshmidt is now a star on YouTube. Have you been following this story, Brian?

I have a ton of people immediately started sending it to us. And, you know, you and I just off air and maybe a little bit on there over the last year, talked a little bit about George Hackenshmidt after I found one of his autographs in the files. And we started talking about it. And, you know, everyone knows about the gotch matches. The idea there's no footage is something that, you know, you go looking you may not realize well and

one of the gotch and hackenshmit matches I can't remember was 08 or 11 may have been 08 was the story goes was filmed but has been lost nobody knows if it still exists or where it might be or whatever but nobody really knew that

this footage existed until they just come out with it but apparently and I'm hazy on the details of exactly how, which came first the chicken or the egg, but this film footage was displayed at a film festival in Estonia because George Hakenschmidt was from Estonia, which again, and if you don't even know, Google it while I'm rambling, is the Russian lion, it's somewhere in the Soviet Union or,

Russian area, right? Estonia. Yeah, no, I've known people from Estonia. It's right there. Okay, well, are they nice people? Very nice people. Well, there you, well, you know, you know HAC was a hell of a guy. Yeah. But anyway, at a film festival there, but... Who was double crossed?

Who was double crossed? It was found, it was shot or restored from New Zealand by a group there that had found this apparently was this footage shot there or did it end up there for display and somebody found it and restored it in New Zealand? Because it's like a

what are the natives in New Zealand the Māori's right? It's like a Maori name I don't have it in front of me company that did this restoration and brought this to light. I could be wrong because I've actually been meaning to read up more

on this because I'm fascinated by it But I want to say that it's something that Hackenschmidt himself brought with him on a tour there. Ah. But again, let me, you know, I have to double check that, but I think it's something that was like touring with him. Because his opponent is American. And it was just it. And built like Mike Waino. Yes.

And, well, but it. I'm kidding. Next to Hackenschmidt in the day, right? This is in 1908. It's not fair because for the. For the bodybuilders or the weightlifters or power lifters in the audience, for his day, George Hackenshmidt was not only a strong man,

but was into early physical culture, had developed physique before that. I don't know, the weeders hadn't been born, the brothers. I don't think they had weights as such as we might know them today back in them days. And the hack squat. was named for him, which is a method of lifting. So he was a big fucking deal in those days as far as one of the strongest men in the world

and then could lay legitimate claim to being the best wrestler in the world, and that's how he ended up with gotch to settle it. You know, and his footage at the end of what we're talking about here that just show him posing a little bit, and there's no body fat on him at all. and he's cut. I mean, he's cut the way you would think a little guy on steroids would be cut, but he's not a little guy on steroids.

He's the real deal. Well, and that's the thing. I saw a graphic that somebody had put up with a Hackenschmidt versus the tail of the tape, and he's like five feet eight, but he's over 200 pounds. And like you said, with no body fat, and there were no steroids.

There was barely food, right? To paraphrase our friend Dutch. there were no protein shakes nothing yeah he invented a lot of training programs for himself that later on were integrated in way he was like ahead of his time

they were integrated into more modern things years and years later so you know he was he was and and you know when you look at the footage and by the way there's no there's not really a ring there's no ropes they're on

I couldn't know was that a mat spread out or just a canvas spread out or whatever it was yeah what you think of the whole look I actually liked that I mean obviously it lends itself to what it actually is but there's just a canvas a mat on the floor and a few rows of well-dressed men yeah and the referees well referees well dressed too what did you think of the look of the whole thing well this because and his opponent's name was Joe somebody might as well have been Joe Blow because he was... Joe Rogers. Rogers. Okay.

Let's face it, he hasn't gone down in the pantheon of the gotches and Zabiscoes and rollers and et cetera of that time period. This was probably, especially if Hackenschmidt carried the film on a tour with him for publicity's sake or maybe make some money exhibiting whatever, probably the prehistoric equivalent of one of the stars in the same. 70s or 80s carried a tape around of him on Atlanta TV beating George South, right?

The guy's competition, they can build him up, oh, the American you know, challenger or whatever, Joe Smith. And Hackenshmidt, not only is he handpicked the guy, he knows he can beat him regardless. He might be

working with him. It's hard to tell. They're not even using the fucking ropes, right? Silent footage. but so there's certainly nothing particularly see-through but you can tell that gotch could eat your fucking lunch if he wanted to and that's the thing is it's fascinating it's it's dry if you're just a fan of modern wrestling and you know bumps and you know pageantry or whatever but for the historians or just Haken Schmidt is the same place that a Kurt Angle was, what, 100 years later,

he was the best legitimate... He was thicker. Well, but I'm not talking physically. I'm saying in terms of... He was the best legitimate pro wrestler that there was, because he was the best, or at least one of the best, it was, that was, you know, again, why they have the matches with him

and a few select others. In those days, it was Lewis or Gotch, or fucking whoever the top guy was and a few people surrounding him that kind of had everybody's respect. And again, this isn't in the States. This is Hackenshmet touring the world. Yes, so he's taking his

publicity material, such as it was, at the time around with him. And I have something here. Let me just firm it up. John Langmead, who was previously on this show, did an article for slam wrestling, and it says here that the Oh, Goddap, be careful.

I love everybody that writes for slam wrestling, but I can't read that site anymore because every time I go there, it freezes my computer up. The original... Bless y'all do something, please. The original nitrate film, again, according to Rice's research, was likely taken to New Zealand by Hackenshmit himself when he toured there in 1910.

And, oh, but getting back to the... No-Rope situation, I think this was probably, like, either an exhibition he did, or it certainly wasn't a big major stadium thing where they sold tickets to it. It was probably something, and in those days they had to film

under a controlled environment, in a lot of cases anyway. According to this article, the match captured on the film is a two out of three falls match between Hackenshmit and the American wrestler Joe Rogers, and it took place January 30th, 1908, at London's Oxford Music Hall. Ah!

At 30 years old, Hackenschmidt was four years Roger's senior and was giving away four inches in height and over 30 pounds. There you go. And again, you know, he carried that around as publicity and the atmosphere they've got is

that was before, well, we've talked about this in a past, when professional boxing became a thing, as the rules evolved and the presentation changed, wrestling and boxing in those days mirrored each other in large part in terms of the presentation. The reason why that the wrestling ring is called the squared circle is because in a lot of places,

both sports started out where they would draw a circle on the ground and you had to stay within those parameters. And then when the idea of a ring, as we know it came, you can't make ropes round. The ropes were to keep people, boxers, and wrestlers from accidentally falling out of the fucking thing and especially to have a platform raised

as more people began congregating for these things. They couldn't fucking see. So they squared the circle with the ropes and the ring as we know it today, but that's why it's a ring. But these guys were just in the music hall on whatever was spread out on the ground because in those days,

they didn't hit the ropes anyway. That hadn't been invented yet. It was to legitimately keep everybody from falling out, right? And there's that footage of Tootsmont from what would it be 19, late 20s, early 30s, that workout stuff that came up not long ago. where he's figured out how to take the bump over the ropes at an entertaining way and still look like he didn't mean to do it

and utilize that as part of the fucking thing. And then Buddy Rogers, by the time TV comes around in the 50s, he's the one doing the spots where he's fucking careening off the goddamn ropes from one side to the other off balance and trying to stay away from his fucking opponent, can't control himself, allegedly. So it's... And by the way, this footage is just a mere, what, three months, four months before the first

match with Gatch. Yes, so at that point, Hakenschmidt was pretty much the challenger to the other guy who said he was the best in the world. And apparently he was good enough that Gatch felt like he needed to double cross him in the end and rub it in. but uh but anyway but yeah so you never what what else could be out there you never know what the fuck that somebody's going to find somewhere you know don't give up on the gotch hackenschmitt match turning up you know never give up on these things you never know what was donated someplace what is

in an attic you know you always hear all these things disintegrate over time or these things just dissolve we've seen it things just turn up this is from a hundred years over a hundred years ago Well, what is the climate like in New Zealand? Or Estonia? No. No, seriously, that's where it's been in New Zealand, right? Because he took it there on the tour. Do you know why they call one of the most famous

high-grade golden age comic book collections, The Mile High Collection? Why? Because the guy lived in or near Denver. I can't remember exactly. but it's a drier, less humid climate. No matter what, you know, and before air conditioning,

if we're talking early 40s in a lot of homes, but no matter what manner they've been stored in unless they're in a goddamn vault like they've got the WWF tapes in in a mountain somewhere, paper reacts to the climate and the amount of humidity and temperature, temperature and et cetera. And this guy's shit was

like pristine because he had not only wrapped it and kept in the closet in the fucking house, but also he lived in a dry climate. And the paper was still white. So if New Zealand lends itself to 100 year old film preservation

because that shit used to spontaneously burst into flames back then. I mean nitrate film? Yeah. Nitrate film is highly flammable. It's a highly. So we need to go find more shit in New Zealand. You know, it's obvious from that footage, too.

Anyone who went to go see Hackenschmidt, you were seeing someone who was the real deal. Like, no one was going to walk out of there and be like, ah, you know, this guy is a fake. He was the real, he looked like the real deal. No one had a physique like that anywhere. And then you see, you know, just what he's doing in this match for, you know, I don't know if it was for the film that they made it,

but this matching from a very small audience. and he's a dominating guy. Yeah, and that's another reason. It was the equivalent of a personal appearance slash squash match of the day where he was getting paid to do that. Somebody shot to film and he's like, yeah, and that's probably because the gotch-hackenshmit

film was probably like most of the boxing films that were shot at that time, whether they exist or not. Somebody was going to exhibit it, theater some early film company and or just Nickelodeons whatever the manner was at that point

and that's the kind of shit that got lost because they dealt in quantities of things and those films got cycled around and ended up in a theater somewhere got closed and the shit got dumped in a landfill but because this guy carried it around himself to this

tour and then it ended up there you hear about sometimes the best silent films are found at the end of a goddamn line of distribution when it cost the whether it was China or fucking Poughkeepsie wherever it was when that film had gone through

all the distributor or all the places it was going to be shown all the theaters to the last in line an army base somewhere in Alaska it cost more to send it back than it did to just, they'd start fresh. So they would end up at the end of the line with a lot of these lost films.

Yeah, you know, a lot of them, shouldn't say a lot, but there are various projects that pop up on Kickstarter that I usually support where it's like they have found multiple reels in different parts of the world and they're trying to recreate a movie that's been lost.

Yeah. And, you know, with the silent, with silent films especially, I don't know what the numbers, but it's like a high percentage. percentage, maybe over 70% that's lost. Maybe it's higher than that. No, I think it's either 80 to 90.

When you consider every film that was made by every motion picture company from the first one in the 1890s, first one public distribution until 1927, I think it's 80 to 90% has been lost. either the master was just eroded, rotted, it wasn't preserved fires in various places and studios and things. Because the film was so flammable that they used. That's what they used to call it Kodak safety film. I'm old enough to remember that.

The first shit was like goddamn nitroglycerin. It would just spontaneously combust and the whole room would go up. but in terms of what else would be available from wrestling, I guess there's a potential of this was made in the months leading up to the match and maybe there's footage of Gotch on the farm or something that we haven't seen. And then... Yeah, but do we really need to see Frank Gotch have a veterinary knowledge of a mule?

And when you look at the early history of the film industry in America, it was all based out in New York. And there was a lot of wrestling. wrestling in New York. So the idea that there wouldn't be more films of just stuff in the New York area, I would have to think there would have been at the time. Who knows if anything will ever be recovered, but it just seems too unlikely that it wouldn't. And, you know, also just as big as Lewis was, and I know there's things, but as big as a sports name as Strangler Lewis was just for newsreel footage or, you know, the short subject type of thing,

I would think that there was a lot more shot than we have now. Anyway, you know why we're not going to have that problem in the future, Brian? Why? Because now everybody's got a fucking camera in their pocket, and they can shoot the next stars of the WWE. I'm not talking about literally. I'm talking about in a videography fashion that are now being spread around the world. What is this eye here?

Do you have the press release on this? I think I got it here somewhere on the WWE ID program. I do have this here. Let me pull this up. And the ID stands for independent development. You know, remember when we made the joke that they ought to take all these streaming services

and all the video services and put them all together under one umbrella and call it cable television? Well, it was Jim Gaffigan's joke that we took on to the air. Let's give him credit. Well, okay. Well, I couldn't remember whose name. All I remember was you stole it and then I stole it from you.

That is, now you're telling the truth, yes. Well, I didn't feel the need to explain it. I thought that was common knowledge. But nevertheless, that's the same thing. That's the same thing they're doing here as I will tell you about in a minute. But it's not like it's a new idea, but it's probably going to come. cost them a lot more money and they're going to spend more money on it. But we'll go into this.

But did you, what, should we bring the people up on it? Yeah, let me go to the press release here and we'll discuss it because there's a lot to it and really what it could in the long-term effect in terms of the talent pool. But October 29th, 2024, WWE today announced a launch of its first of its kind developmental program designed to provide up-and-coming independent. and wrestlers a pathway to a potential career in WWE. A pathway to a potential career. It's like a...

The program will be called... Sounds like a long road ahead. The program will be called WWID, short for WWE Independent Development. Tradebar. Here's a quote from WWE's chief content officer, Paul Triple H. Levec. WVEC, W.EID is the latest in our

efforts to identify and support the journey of up-and-coming wrestlers, in turn raising the profile of and strengthening the independent wrestling ecosystem. Following the 2021 launch of WWE's NIL program, WWIID has been constructed to support independent wrestling prospects and wrestling schools with world-class training, development, and mentorship. Can I just bud in here just for a second, Brian, not to interrupt you while you're on a flow. But how many,

the NIL program was like college athletes or pro athletes or whatever kind of added to the football players, baseball players, basketball players, the hockey player, lacrosse players, ping pong players, whoever these people are, that they were partnering with or giving some support to in some way for them to be

somehow affiliated with it. Has anybody come to WWE out of that program? You know, I'm not exactly sure, and I'm trying to see if there's anything that... They haven't been trumpeting it from the rooftops, if they have, have they? Obothemmy is apparently from the NIL program, next in line, NIL.

They don't call it NIL, do they? They call it NIL. No, I think it's name, image, and likeness. Well, that's what it's supposed to be. I think that's what it is in college. But they're calling it next in line, right? They already stole your ID, now they want to get everything.

But no, but then here's the thing. Now they've thought, well, my God, here's a revolutionary thought. Instead of going after the, and I'm not saying anything wrong with it, go after everybody. Cast a wide net. Go after the athletic prospect. and freaks of the day. But they've had a brilliant idea three years after going after the football players

and the college players, the pro players, whoever the fuck, let's go after people that are already in the goddamn wrestling business. You see what I'm saying? Well, let me go back. This is a revolutionary fucking thing. They just thought, shit. Maybe we ought to goddamn go after

some of the people that actually already kind of do this. Well, continue with this press release. here. Under the program, WWE will provide prominent independent wrestling schools with the WWIID official designation

with the goal providing new trainees and existing talent at these selected institutions. Instantity. Now we're slathering it on with a fucking trowel now, aren't we? Existing talent at these...

I'm partially owned and run one of these type of institutions and it may have qualified for a fucking state institution, but go ahead. These select institutions with enhanced developmental opportunities. Booker T's reality of wrestling in Houston, Cody Rhodes' Nightmare Factory

in Atlanta, minus QT. Marshall, I assume. His name isn't there all of a sudden. Seth Rawlins' Black and Brave Academy in Davenport, Iowa. The elite pro-Rust It's a media hub. The elite pro wrestling training center in Concord, New Hampshire,

and Knox Pro Academy in Los Angeles are the first WWIID Independent Wrestling Schools to earn the official designation. Well, okay, and hop in. I'm not going to take the piss out of these people, but let's hop in here for a second, because obviously we know Booker, school at Houston, Cody's in Atlanta,

Sess in Davenport, the Knox Pro Academy, that's Rikishi's school, isn't it? Or does the Samoan family has something? I believe it's Rikishi, I think. And who does the elite pro wrestling in Concord, New Hampshire,

but they're somewhere near Triple H's hometown. And I'm trying to think who that might be. Do you have any idea? I'm looking at the Knox Pro website and it appears to be Rakishi with Please forgive me

I'm not sure what other family member this is Well but for the point that I'm making They can contact us for rates And we'll give them the whole fucking advertising smear What's this? There's some guy wrestling for him Journey Fatu It looks like you may be Jacob Fatu's brother or something Based on the looks here

There's another one There's another one Fucking hell Oh it's Rikishi and the Black Pearl I don't know. I'm not too familiar. Oh, okay, okay, yes, the black, uh, yes, he's a member of the family. He's the pearl of the family, some say. He's the pearl of the family.

He wore a pearl necklace. Anyway, what I'm trying to say to you is that, yes, because they know who these people are. They can go and see the school. They know that they're not going to do anything potentially to, you know, to hurt, any of the WWE talent, I'm sure that every once in a while, some of the people, maybe from NXT or maybe

that aren't heavily relied on these days might show up at some of these places. Same thing, it's the same principle as OVW in the developmental days where we would have guys come down and help some of the people they had an investment in. But also this is not a new idea.

and the reason I say that is because in the 90s, we were kind of unofficially doing something because, you know, I had always kept up with, either in Smoky Mount Wrestling or then when I was in Stanford working in the office, I was the guy for quite some time that was booking the local guys. They call them an enhancement talent or extras, but the job guys.

And at that time, it wasn't a insult to me. Guys would say, hey, can you get me to do some jobs on WWF TV? But I would keep lists when we were in a specific area of the country. Like in Chicago, we would always call Chris Daniels at that point because he was just started and he wanted the work, right? And Rhino bless him. he did you hear he plugged me on his uh TNA Hall of Fame acceptance speech

oh very nice because I was the first guy that and he said this I was the first guy where he waited to say that that would have been egotistical of him saying I Jim was my first guy well no he said he said that on the paper view would you quit he said Jim Cornett was the first guy that saw something in me and I pulled it right out of him no

would you stop now you've got me doing it but the point is I'd see it in I'm trying to think what it was it may have been well in 1994 when the rock and roll express to heavily bodies

from Smoky Mountain we went up and did a couple of shows in Michigan for Gary Warancheck that's where I found Brewer Breder Bedlam just on the show there but also in Smoggy Mountain guys would send me tapes that's you know

Candido or people would be recommended you know, or whatever. But then later on, as I said at the WWF, not only calling guys for jobs on television, but also booking the guys at the time, the Billy Guns of the world, the road dogs, before they started doing anything with them,

that weren't booked. They wanted to work on third-party shows where they could do independent shows and make 500 bucks or 750 or a grain. depend on who it was. And when I was doing the third party promoters, I had to keep track of who I could book these guys to that had insurance

and was doing somewhat of a legitimate show and not only wasn't going to ask these guys to do anything stupid, they might get hurt, but also on the same show, even if they weren't involved, we were going to have a goddamn chainsaw death match where somebody was going to get airlifted and it'd make the local news. and or something to besmirch the WWF's reputation.

Little did we know at the time we could leave that to the owners of the fucking company. But, yeah, exactly. But he wasn't quite as raspy then. And he wasn't big on supporting independent wrestling. Exactly, because he hadn't learned yet. But since I was doing that, I knew, you know, you could depend on Blaine DeSantis over in Pennsylvania or Jimmy Kittner in Delaware or Dennis Corleuzo in New Jersey if I kept an eye on him and not only

did I book a lot of the guys to these shows that otherwise would have been sitting home and being off but they didn't get in trouble with the WWF office and I got on the shows too and made some extra money for the FICA fund or actually the FCIA Fund. Fuck Connecticut in the ass. I get out of there. Hey, I went to the website of the

Elite Pro Wrestling Academy or Training Center, I should say. They're an institution, I know that. Unlike the Knox one, which has had pictures of the Samoan family all over the website, the first thing you have here is just a giant WWIID logo. And then it has the press release,

and then it has their mission. And I'm going to guess this may be a Triple H connection. otherwise I'm not sure why this school would be hooked up. New Hampshire, yeah. Yeah. But anyway, but that's... Because the head trainer is a Kowalski guy.

Well, there you go. But anyway, the point I was making is that that's what kind of morphed into a thing where we got... Because I was always trying to keep track of who the top guys were working for the promoters that ran decent shows, whether it be in the northeast or down south or the Midwest or whatever. and we would get their top guys opportunities even to do jobs because that's how you got seen. And that's Devin Storm had a number of patches and a number of tryouts with WWF, but he ended up being Crowbar and WCW, Christopher Daniels. I was, you know, had booked on TV to do jobs, but also to when he came to one of the early

versions of the camps, it didn't work out there, but he went to TNA. Rick Ratchet. If you ever wanted to empty a room, you just put Rick Ratchett in the room. Well, there you go. No, come on now. Don't make me, I'm trying to try to say that there were some legitimate folks here that,

no, but, and I mentioned Rino before because I've told the story when Bruce said, well, he's just not any personality. I'm like, he's 19 years old. He's got fucking thighs as big as my waist. He'll fucking look at his head.

God damn, can't you see this? He's a fucking living game. Isn't it weird that Bruce would say that to you about him or other people, yet Bruce has like no personality? Well, and the thing is, I would say that's why Bruce wasn't on television, but goddamn they put him on TV, didn't they? But anyway, that was the thing then with OVW. I still knew where some of these people were

and we could get them to come in and have an easier time to be seen. And that's what they're trying to do now. And it's also the same thing with OVW. was remember there were other developmental connections for a short period of time and the this was Jim Ross's thought process and I was totally behind it

was that when they were affiliated with Les Thatcher and the Heartland Wrestling Association in Cincinnati and Les's drawback up there was he didn't have a great play and didn't really have any place to shoot television like we had established here but he was running regular events and then of course deep south

that turned out to be a complete fiasco for all the reasons that have been discussed but the idea was a developmental territory in Georgia one in Ohio one here in Kentucky and southern Indiana we'd welcome something in Texas or wherever it may be where we would rotate guys that were in this system that were not being trained the same way, but all being trained the right way.

And not some off-kilter bullshit, or they'd be doing goddamn, you know, ladder matches in front of 12 people and breaking their legs. Because there were still a lot of good-looking prospects in the business at that time, as well as, you know, when they were absorbing the people from WCW or not absorbing them, but putting them into program for very, little cost to see if they could get anything, not the stars, they didn't get absorbed. And unfortunately, just for one reason or another, OVW is only one that worked, but that was the thought. And it's still valid because a lot of times I would have guys in my territory of everything 120 miles at a circle of Louisville for three fucking years.

and the ones that are over with the people and they really like, that wasn't too hard, but then, you know, with the other ones, yeah, it's hard. So there was no place for them to switch out and then also to work in front of a different regions, different companies, different territories, fans react to things differently. And that's another way you'd get experienced. So that was the idea that JR had, and we talked about it, years ago. This is just these schools

don't, I know Booker does run live events. I don't know how many of the schools run how many live events, but you know, they need the NXT guys. That should be a

college, but they're taking in people that haven't been to high school before they go to college. You need repetition at the flea market in fucking Sawani, Tennessee. Well, can we talk about this from another aspect, another perspective, another angle, I guess.

We've talked in the past about problems AEW is having and will have with talent pool, with getting new talent, with finding new stars, with signing people. And when you look traditionally at wrestling wars, Montreal, Georgia, various other examples, when you get shut off from talent, eventually that gets you

because people get tired of the same talent over and over. A.W. And or the ones that have no other choice and so come to you. Right. And AEW, as we've talked about, Kevin Owens, whoever comes up as a free agent from AED, You swear Shrickland, Daniel Garcia, he has to overpay everyone to either get them. He has to overpay them to keep them. He has to really overpay him to get them to come in.

Yeah. And he'll overpay even people that he probably shouldn't overpay. But he's always had access to just pulling people off the Indies. It's one of the reasons independent wrestling and Japanese wrestling fell off a cliff was because Tony took all the talent from all. all the shows, you could argue who's talent, who isn't. Everyone who was filling out these shows ended up signed to AEW. So now if all of a sudden you have a problem getting top talent,

because most top talent aren't going to leave WWE, unless Tony's going to offer him $20 million. So if you can have problems getting top talent, and now all of a sudden you're going to start getting shut out at the grassroots level, too, these are just the first programs, the first schools involved, makes it sound like they want more. they probably want everyone it's wwee well hold on now they don't want everybody because there's not only is there a lot of wrestling schools but these people everyone credible okay well see that's a big qualifier you've just lopped everyone who could train age yeah you're continuing to lop off you know 80 to 90 percent but they want the best that they can trust that they know what kind of business they're doing that they're doing that they know what kind of program they may have and I'm sure they're going to or already have investigated

all of that or there's going to be a closer. Believe me folks at the Nightmare Factory Reality of Wrestling Elite Knox black and blue and red all over whatever places. If you're any kind of official, you're going to have some fucking scrutiny. if they haven't changed that aspect of their business over the last 20 years or so. But they want these training programs that also go ahead and read the final paragraph because it doesn't really talk about independent promotions per se. These are schools that may or may not run their own local events. And the last paragraph talks about independent wrestlers,

but there's not that much about working with specific promotions. Right, and I do find it funny that someone going to that Elite Pro Academy and they go, oh, you align with AEW? No, we're only with WWE. Why would Elite the title give that away? Additionally, WWIID will identify top independent wrestling prospects with an official WWIID prospect designation and support their developmental journey

by providing them with bread and butter. By providing financial opportunity and assisting... All the gruel you can eat, kids, come on. By providing financial opportunity and assisting with training, mentorship, and development, including access to world-class facilities, best-in-class ring training, athletic trainers, and more. WWID will give fans the opportunity to follow the paths

of these standout prospects on the independent wrestling scene through curated behind-the-scenes content as well as highlights and matches showcased across WWE's social platforms. Well, what it sounds like to me there, this is the only thing that I think they may have issues with or not even just, it may get more complex or complicated and they're thinking it's going to be

when they've come up with this plan. But if they have top indie guys that they don't want to bring to NXT just yet, but they're going to give them this prospect designation and support their journey by providing financial opportunity, that means put them on some kind of retainer, hey, do whatever the fuck else you want, but we got right of first refusal

to sign you to a legitimate contractor, something of that nature. assisting with training, etc., including access to facilities, blah, blah, means they probably will bring them periodically to the performance center to go to camps or to see what they're doing or whatever. That makes sense. The giving fans the opportunity to follow the paths of these standout prospects through curated behind-the-scenes content and highlight.

and matches, that may get complicated because if they're letting them, and that's another thing from a booking standpoint, I know they won't have any much financial investment to them, consider they're worth billions of dollars, in these guys, but if they're letting them do their own thing, they're going to be on some fucking shaggy dog outlaw shows. And, you know, hopefully they'll put some parameters on them as far as. as no death match stuff or whatever because they're going to have to pass a blood test sooner or later if they want to

get anywhere. But I'm wondering if they may have to carefully curate that content or here he is behind the scenes at the Wartburg Tennessee County Fair and here he is at a ring it's about to fall down in a mud match

with a fucking hippopotamus. And at the same time WWE is about to cut down on house shows year after year they announced already that they plan to almost get rid of house shows altogether makes you wonder if something like this gives you the opportunity to have small branded

shows with talent that need that kind of experience. Well, yeah, that's the thing is that at their level, if they run Des Moines on a Thursday night, they sell 5,000 tickets and wouldn't make enough money or make any money. Well, this ain't worth it.

I mean, it's insane now, but you can't, you can't just study up or go to, you can't go to football practice that your first game is the Super Bowl, right? Got to be in between, we've said this all along between wrestling school and training and going on national television. And the reason why there's not enough things anymore

in between that is why we see some things we see on national television. So, but this, I'm happy for all these people, but it ain't a fucking new idea and it's kind of like a, what the, amazingly enough, we ought to concentrate more on the people

that have actually shown a willingness and a, some level of dedication toward doing this for dick all of nothing. So let's see if any of them actually we think can be any good at it. That's what,

It's what we were doing 20 years ago with our tri-out camps for OVW. We were doing the WW's job for them by having people submit their information. We would politely decline the people. We wouldn't take their money if they were 40 years old or 5'6 and 225 pounds or didn't have any athletic background or in any way feel like they could be successful. and then we'd have them come and try out and train. And eventually, you know, how many of those 20, 30 of those guys got developmental deals. But, you know, you have to go after people that want to do this.

That's kind of the place you start. It's that plus it's WWE trying to go after the, they set it there, the wrestling ecosystem. They don't want other players. It's still like it was under Vince in that respect. They don't want other players. It's people who play with them or nobody. Well, they don't mind other players as long as those other players are, like you said, either play with them or just teeny tiny little, teeny tiny little fishy is in the seed.

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Copyright. But anyway, or you just go to... Oh, come on. You continue to mock and to scoff at Hotchkis, and he is not a person to be mock scoffed at or scoff-scuff-marked either. except when it's a mutually, you know, agreeable thing with the person that is scuff marking him with their shoes,

which that's kind of a thing that we won't go into that. But nevertheless, go to Jimcoranet.com, because everything's on sale every day for at some price. Might not be a discount, but you can buy it if you want to. What a great sales pitch that is. Honesty is the best policy. There's always something you can pay for. may not be a deal.

Yes, there's everything on sale at Jim Gornett.com is on sale every day for some list price that you can send me and we will send you the, but it's always, it's everyday low prices. There's so low, I can't cut them anymore hardly, I'd be losing money. What is this? Make a wish? Anyway, you want to talk about Smackdown for a minute? I've got my notes here. I guess, Brian, this was the Smackdown episode. November 1st was the date, is what I'm trying to say.

The night before the crown jewel. That's what you're trying to say? They obviously, they weren't in... Where were they here? Were they in fucking Butte, Montana? They weren't live on this episode, were they? Because they had to be in Saudi Arabia mere hours later. You can't do that, can you?

Well, you probably could, but they did. and it would have been ill-advised for them to try. I think it takes to, I don't think it's physically possible. Where were they on Friday night, November 1st at Smackdown? Well, again, they weren't there. See, I keep asking you these quay, you ought to know these things. I watched the show, but I didn't... Smackdown...

Did they say? Is this one of those things where they were hiding their location? I am looking it up right now. It got nothing. See, it's a cover-up. It was from Brooklyn. in New York. Well, no wonder. No wonder. Nobody would want to know. Oh, come. No, they were just there. They taped

an extra episode, right? Yes. Which is why this thing was so lackluster. It was a nothing show. Every time they go to Saudi Arabia, the show before it, unless they're live, it's terrible. Well, it's not worth going out of your way to watch. It was, let's not, again, the hyperbole now, doesn't do anyone any good. It doesn't, it doesn't do our reputation any good if we say it was terrible.

It wasn't terrible because there wasn't anything wrong with it because there was very little to it to begin with. So it's just kind of there. It was a bowl of oatmeal with no sugar. A wafer minus vanilla. A cracker without the peanut butter. The cracker's okay, but that's just a fucking cracker.

crack without the pipe well no because the crack could still be potent oh well you're the crack expert what do I know hey god damn it now how did I get that kind of reputation I'm just saying it's not a proper analogy I'm an analogy expert

and you did not form a cogent simile I apologize all right anything to keep from talking about Smackdown so here came the refrigerator the women's champion refrigerator jacks one of the women's champions and she's doing a live promo so this is if you close your eyes you can hear sable talking can you not the monotonic is that a word monotonic you're the simile expert i don't know well that's not a simile i know you don't know

anything else except similes. That's the problem. Fucking English. I don't know nothing about English. I just know similes, which is a word of fringe derivative. See? Now you prove my point. So it's a monotone, it's expressionless.

It reminds me of a big mama in 1985 when she was hunting for the boogie-woogie man. I've looked in bars. I've looked in cars. And here you are. Boogie man feel low. Not as low as she did when they fucking wouldn't air that interview on it.

They edited off the TBS show. I think it made syndication. But anyway, so she spoke, recited, and then here came Liv and Raquel and Dominic to respond, but they were interrupted by Tiffy Time. and she did a recitation and basically this whole thing is revolving around it she could cash in on fridge too as well as she could cash in on Liv

and there's this these women are just not getting along a smile in your face but all the time they want to take your place Brian they're backstabbers and finally Tiffy punched Liv and Liv said get a reference and they went to break in dramatic fashion,

at which point, when they came back, Brian, you will never guess what was going on a match between Tiffy and Livy. And finally, Tiffy tried to hit Livy with the briefcase, but Liv rode her up and the referee counted while he was on top of the briefcase was not only in the ring, it was right where he had to count. He had to count around.

the briefcase under his nose in order to finish the match, one, two, three, and then Liv hit Tiffy with the case and tried to hit the refrigerator, but the fridge blocked it and hit Rachel, Raquel, Raquel, Rachel, Rachel, Rachel, Rachel Rodriguez. Raquel Rodriguez. Rochelle Rochelle, Rochelle, Rochelle, that's right.

it's a young woman's journey through Minsk was from Milan to Minsk well she hit everybody including Dominic with the briefcase then bonsai dropped Liv and you could just see Liv's various internal organs just all saying fuck it at the same time

and and that was a big old section of the program wasn't it a big old section of the program. I couldn't say it any better than that. And you're the experts. So why add anything? So then they had a package on Triple H and Orton last week where Orton wants Owens,

but Triple H don't want him to have Owens because Triple H is worried about Orton, is what he told Orton. And then they had a video with Owens in his car again, is he just driving around in some type of manic frustration? But he was very low-key this time. It's the big thing in wrestling now. If you're a star, you need a car.

You know, Moxley, Jungle Boy, Kevin Owens, get a different perspective of the car. Eventually, they're all going to just race and run into each other, and we'll see what happens. He sent the video in because he wanted Randy Orden to hear it. but he had to be in his car. I don't know why. He could have done it in the comfort of his own... Does he have a study at home, a den, where he can go and put on his smoking jacket

and his slippers and enjoy his peep? But he doesn't want to fight Orton. He didn't know why Orton is making him fight him because he never wanted to hurt Orton, but now he's going to, and it's all Randy Orton's fault. So he's taking the opposite of him. approach of Jimmy Garvin. Where Jimmy Garvin would say it's not my fault.

Owens is saying it's all your fault. I have a feeling we're going to hear more about this upcoming. Well, it leads into the big match of the pay-per-view. I'm trying not to say anything about that. It's hard because I've seen that. Yes. I don't say anything about that. Well, no, it's not hard not to say anything about it.

Anyway, then we had to suffer through the street profits taking on purely dreary, where the girl with street profits. What's her name, K-Fabe? B-Fab. B-Fab. Well, she body slammed one of these heels. No shit. On the floor. Yeah.

And she's bigger than them, too. And then we were half an hour in, so they gave us Naomi and Bailey against Indy and Candy. And then we were 52 minutes in. And finally, they paid. played Roman Rains' music. And I should mention they did a package of the Uso's reuniting. The Brotherly Love is back in full bloom. But now we get the Romans on the way to the ring,

and he's bringing Jimmy with him. And Jimmy cuts a promo. He loves Roman, but you've got to listen to me. I need you to drop the beef with Jay or squash. He said drop it, and they said squash it. They were chanting squash the beef. He said, I made up with my brother, and now it's time for you to make up with your cousin. And the fans are squash that beef, squash that beef.

You've got to get a smash burger sponsorship in here somewhere. They're leaving money on a table. But anyway, Jimmy's whole fucking point was, if we're not together at Crown Jewel, we will fall. And Roman asked for the microphone. He doesn't ask for it. He holds his hand out. And suddenly, here comes Yeat.

And it's Jay's music, and he makes the entrance through the arena. And the fans are waving, and the fans are yeating, and the lights are flashing. And I got to be honest with you, the most perfect thing about this was they timed this where he was getting in the ring with all this going on right at 9 o'clock. I mean, they got it down to a science because they'd started this segment at 52 in, so eight minutes till the hour, but they knew this was the part

that was going to snag people. And then Jay cut to promo, and we've laughed about him being blown up by the time he does that entrance and then go in there and cut a promo. But I think he conserved a little bit. This was the best promo. and he's done since he got the whole

yeat thing going on because he laid it out for Roman hey we got to get back at solo but we ain't fixed it yet between us because I remember what you did to me physically and mentally

and the way you disrespected me and I still showed up because that's what that's what family do is what he said. And a lot of people don't think it be like it is, but it do. And it's family above all. And this go around, you're not going to tell me what to do

because I'm your equal now. And that got a big pop from the people. And then Jay's like side by side, let's run this thing like we used to, but if you disrespect me, I'm gone. or you can act like my cousin and I'll see you at Crown Jewel and we can all do it together

what a baby face promo right and he laid the whole thing out and Roman holds his hand out for the microphone then he gets it and he's milking it and now the people are chanting OTC OTC and Roman looks at him and he says

yeat And the place blows, and they start to eat, yeat, yeat, and then hug it out, hug it out. Now, this is like the goddamn Jerry Springer show. Instead of a studio audience, they got five or ten thousand fucking people doing this shit. It's amazing. And then the Uso's stood there and put the one finger up. And then Roman stood in between him and he put his one finger up. and they popped again.

15 minute segment it was the best thing on the fucking show and that's probably what the people came for that they were most happy with. But now so we set up like we didn't think it was

going to happen but we set up that they're united against the other bloodline but just these are the stars and this is what the people give a shit about. And we'll talk about it more with the pay-per-view review but in general, these are the segments that hit, for me, a lot more than the actual bloodline matches.

I'm more into the drama and the acting in these segments than the actual matches when they transpire. Or in the case of this one, expire. But we'll get there. But anyway, then they had a girls' four-way with the four girls in the corners, and it looked like middle school cheaters, cheaters middle school cheaters middle school cheered middle school cheerleaders having a fight in one of those bouncy house things what about cheer cheaters

cheer cheaters well you know what i've said before they ought to inspect those cheerleaders at these games carefully they may be passing these ballplayers god damn foreign objects and then they teased orton and cody again cody asked roman said er roman Cody asked Orton. I can't get anybody's name right. Cody asked Orton to save a piece of Owens for him. And Orton said there ain't going to be left.

Apparently he's just going to eat him like a bowl of nanner pudding. But then Cody said, I don't know what I'm going to do then. And Orton looks at the belt hanging there and it looks back at Cody and says, you'll think of something. So they're still dramatically foreshadowing this.

Do you think it's all a plot between Orton and Owens? They're going to beat each other up and fucking try to kill each other to lure Cody into a false sense of security? Well, I think it'll be more valuable for those two separate things, but the other thing you have to think about is coming out of the pay-per-view, which we'll review later, with all the bloodline stuff happening and the bloodline

featuring the most over baby faces like Roman and Jay Oso, what is Cody going to do to be able to keep pace? What are the good programs for him right now? Is it just Owens? And then what? If you go right to Orton, is that too soon because of all of this? But I guess that's fun to try to see how they work that out. But Cody needs something, though.

The next big guy coming back for next year might want to win the world title one more time. Do you smell what I'm cooking? I do. John Sina. Hey, listen, John Sina, the big program I think they could do, that would be great, but it would absolutely turn Cody heel, whether he liked it or not, would be Cody and punk. That would be really intriguing, but I think it would backfire completely on Cody's reactions.

I think Sina could cut, well, but they don't want Sina to be a heel either, but they can figure out a way to make that interesting for the Royal Rumble, couldn't they? And the Rock too? Remember the Rock and Cody of unfinished business, so you have these things, but it feels like Cody's starting to cool off though. Well, I'm starting to wonder whether the Rock has ever going to finish

his business or not. Because then he shows up at bad blood and stands there, and we don't see him again. He just happened to be passing through. But nevertheless, speaking of the people who are cooling off or heating up or whatever, that was the main event.

Gunther and Kaiser You know what, that should have been his name, Gunther Kaiser. But Gunther and Kaiser took on Cody and Orton in the main event, and this has been just long anticipated, this match would take place, and they started it and went one minute or less to the break,

and they came back with like seven minutes on the air. So, you know, boom, Cody gave Orton kind of a blah-ta, and Orton made it come back and hit Gunther with the DDT and tried to hit the RKO, but Gunther slipped it. So Orton tagged Cody back in and Cody made it come back on Kaiser

and hit him with the cutter and in Orton RKOed Gunther and then Cody crossroads Kaiser and beat him boom one, two, three. So that was kind of quick. but then as they were celebrating, here came Owens, no longer in his car. Maybe that's why somebody sent security

to check the parking lot. That's apparently where he is whenever he's sending videos from his car. And he nailed Orton with a chair and at the same time Gunther popped up and got the sleeper on Cody and Owen stood there and did nothing to prevent

Gunther from choking out Cody and security came in, tried to get Gunther off, and that was all she wrote, as Mama Cornett used to say, except have you seen what they're starting to add at the end of the program? Oh, since they went to the USA Network, the executive producers? Yes. Virgil Riley-Runnels Jr., I believe it said? No, no, you've got to update it.

Paul Leveck or Levesque, as we in the industry, tournament and Lee Fitting. So, I mean, this is not anything that we don't know but have they ever had any kind of credits before? They have for events they've done

because I remember they even had some goofy ones like executive producer, K-fabe. Oh yeah, back in like those HBO specials and things in the early 80s, stuff like that. Well, stuff like the slamies. And some of the Coliseum Video Slavs, oh, the slammies, the the production people at the studio got special permission to do some rib credits on the slammies too.

Do you think it's a smart thing, especially just in terms of separating yourselves from the previous administration, letting people know this is a different, you know, people who are just tuning in now, what's this at the end? That's not Vince McMahon's name there. Well, then I wonder if they're going to do that. Because what goes behind that choice of all of a sudden adding that? Not that he doesn't deserve credit Triple H, but you know, that's a Paul Hayman move, actually.

Executive producer Paul Heyman. Lee Fitting deserves a lot of credit for the way this thing looks now too. I'm not saying they don't deserve credit. I'm saying it's a departure from what they've normally done, which is not have credits. And if they're going to have credits, why don't they go all the way?

Because not only like your regional sports broadcast or your network sports broadcast, or your network sports broadcast or an entertainment show. They have directed by, you know, audio, camera, whatever. Why don't they do the whole thing then? Because in the old days, wrestling didn't have credits per se because you didn't want to be Booker.

Although Dusty did with the TVS show, Virgil Runnels. Like, that was a well-known secret. But there's no reason. they really couldn't now don't put down agents for matches that tell the guys what finished to do. But for the technical crew, I wonder why they couldn't have some credits. Are you trying to keep these people from being credited? I'm saying the only people getting credit to the two people of the three people in charge.

Funny how that works out, isn't it? Nick Kahn, I keep my name off this. I have a very robust name. Please keep it off this. What about Ari? Ari should get some credit. I knew he'd grow up to do good things one day. He does.

It's called the dividend, but yes. But anyway, but that pretty much was Smackdown, and I mentioned a name there, Brian, on the Smackdown show, and I understood maybe this could have been the straw that broke the camels back, but did they fire a few people this week? I don't know if I would term it as firing. Apparently they released... They asked them, please go away from here and don't ever come back?

Is that more? Well, here are the names. Tegan Knox. Tegan Knox. Tegan Knox was released this past week. Well, we haven't seen her in quite a while anyway, as far as I recall. And if I recall, right, I think in the times that we've seen her, she's had at least two, if not three different knee injuries that took her out for almost a year.

Yep, I remember that may be the case as well. Another name that was released, somewhat surprised. she was on the show you just talked about. Indy Hartwell. Well, that's what I was going to. She was just here with her sorority sister Candy. And apparently this was, you know, she goes from being on fucking national TV one week

to, ah, we don't need you anymore. Hmm. Should AEW sign her? She has size. She's not one of the small girls. I believe she's a fan, so maybe, uh, you know, she got the heart in the right place for this? Well, a lot of people have their heart in the right place in AEW

is just their brain that's dislocated about three feet south. Some have even had their brain removed, according to reports in the observer, and then placed back in their head. But that's, you know, that was an experimental case, and we cannot blame, you know, because we've had a lot of readers, a lot of readers. Yeah. Yes, we're reading this newsletter of hours, yes. we've had a lot of listeners that have said to us,

they've said, where can I go to have this brain procedure done? Because, you know, I got some problems with my brain. And we can't, we, we have to tell them, no, it was an experimental procedure done only at the Narita Airport in Japan. It's in Japan. If you need to get the surgery done, apparently it's in Japan. Or at least that's what we've read.

But you got to go to Gate 5 at Narita. Rita Airport and knock three times and they'll take you back to the place where they do that operation. All right. Some of us would like to get back to that place. But that's, Jim. All right. Who else did they can?

Another name. Who else did they exile? Who else did they send out never to be heard from again? Out into the cold, cruel world. The final name on this list? Baron Corbin. Aw. Baron, we hardly knew ye.

12 years with WWE Jesus Christ You know he must be a heck of a nice guy That they went to that much Trouble and effort to keep him around For 12 fucking years It's always weird for me Because I grew up in the era of WWF

Where it felt like everyone was there for a long time But when you really look back on it Some of their runs were like three years two years and they were in and out. Twelve years. And it's not like an abnormality. There are other people that are just there forever. You know, no disrespect to him. I'm not saying fire Seamus.

But Seamus has been there for fucking ever. You know what I mean? Like there are guys that are just, they're on this show forever. Coffey Kingston, forever. You've been seeing them on this show. And you never used to have that. Barron Corbin, 12 years. that would be the equivalent of in 1996 at the start of the boom period, the attitude era of whatever, right beforehand, who was on a roster in 1996 that had been there continuously since 1984,

besides a Brooklyn brawler? Howard Finkel. Tito was gone by that point. I don't know of anyone in 95. Brett started, I guess, technically maybe in 84. Yeah. And he, well, but again, it was Brett continuous,

or didn't he take a break in the mid-80s at some point? Nevertheless, it's ridiculous. And that's the byproduct of there only being one place to go. And, you know, and let's face it, I don't think anybody's pushing, that Baron Corbyn was the in-ring equivalent of Bradhart or any stars of that particular level.

But it's, yeah, it's guys. And that's, we talked earlier in the program that we did about a developmental program where there was, the idea was there was going to be different territories so you could rotate talent back and forth and they could get different experiences and you could keep things fresh on your cards. and how how does this guy in any way get better when they send him back to NXT

after he'd been there for 10 years, right? The fuck. You think he's a prime candidate to get signed by Vince for his new company? Well, only if he's, you know, wanting to get into the entertainment industry because, of course, Vince said he's not going to be in wrestling, they're going to be producing major mothen pictures

and fit coms, baby. See, that's the catch one, they answer. as this PR person, is this going to be a wrestling company? Of course they said no. Vince would never say yes to that. It won't be a wrestling company. Sounds like a southern thing. It's going to be bodybuilding.

And then as soon as we get Lugar back under contract. Well, there it is. Those are the releases. Baron Corbyn, again, many, many years on the roster, a lot of different character changes, some funny segments, some really three seasons. really not funny segments.

But all things considered a nice run there. We'll see what happens to him. Obviously, they own the name Baron Corbyn. And we'll see what happens to... Obviously, would he want it? Well, you've got to reinvent yourself now. It's a little hard, I would think, 12 years. Well, I think he needs to reinvent himself into a whole new profession instead of wrestling.

But, you know, again, would you... If you were an independent promoter, oh, God, I could have Baron Corbin on my show for only, what, $1,500? if he'd go that low, $2,000, what are the kids making these days when they come out of the WWE? Who? How is that going to fucking work?

He needs to be somebody, maybe he could call himself George Hackenshmit Jr. I guess that's... He looked more like Joe Rogers. That wouldn't be nice, would it? No, I don't think that would be the right thing for him, but we'll see what happens.

That's not nice at all. But anyway, you know, some of these people... Hey, uh, yeah. Well, what were you going to say? No, I had a separate thing, but finish what you said. A separate thing? Well, I'll just say some of these people, they need to get out of the wrestling business,

and they need to come up with a new line of work and a new way to make money and a new way to separate to suckers from their cash. I don't think we should look at it like that, no. Well, you've got to, sometimes you've got to take a little crowbar and you've got to pry people's hands out of their pockets with their money in it, and then they're having, happy with the product that you give them.

See, just like our relationship with the listeners, Brian. The people may think, oh, fuck, I don't listen anymore that cornet, but when they sit down and they're forced to listen to us, then they get a kick out of it. So sometimes you got to, you know, you got to force yourself to do something for your own fucking good, right? You prove my point. Right.

Well, in that case, some of these guys like Baron Corbyn, he ought to go to Shopify. That's what I'm trying to say. And do what? What's he going to do? And sell something. What's he going to sell? Anything besides turnbuckles and monkey flips, because, folks, Shopify, what are you laughing about? Shopify, nobody does selling better for one thing than Shopify.

Ricky Morton doesn't sell like Shopify does. they're the home of the number one checkout on the planet. Shop pay boosts conversions up to 50%. You can convert things from one thing to the other thing, and it'll cost you half price. Actually, you know, if it boosts it, it means you'll get half again as much. And less carts will go abandoned.

And then the grocery store parking lots won't be such a hazard to everybody's vehicle. But it's all about getting your business, out to the consumer and getting your product to the consumer and then checking them out. And once you check them out and you've got their money, then you give them the thing and kick them out and send them on their way because you're on to the next customer. And you've got to keep this moving. And Shopify is not afraid to be rude.

Once they've got somebody's money and they've got their merchandise, then they're going to kick them right out of the store or your website. No, first of all, that's not how it works. there is no store. We're talking my websites and they're not going to kick anyone out of anywhere. They're going to work on your behalf to have a pleasurable experience with the customer,

not a rude experience or they get kicked out of the store. Well, they'll hang up on you if you take too long on the phone too because they're about making money. Can't have any of this fucking idle chit-chat going on. They're about making you money. They're about making money for you with you with Shopify.

That's right. So these fucking customers, they're going to have to fork over and get to fuck out. But I'll tell you folks right now, right now you can upgrade your business you can get the same checkout as all the big major players use and you can find out how that shopify can integrate and intify all of your business opportunities together so that you're getting the most out of the least and they are the host with the most

so on the web in your store in their feed in your feelings and everywhere in between they're going to get your customers wherever they're scrolling or strolling. And if they're trying to scroll while they stroll, even better they're not paying attention and are more susceptible to being chloroformed and taken behind a building. First of all, what?

Let's not? Well, we've got to find out if they've got enough money that they can afford what we're trying to sell them. We? So we're just going to rifle their pockets a little bit. Who's we? We and Shopify.

I think it's you by yourself. Shopify is nothing to do with this nefarious activity. It's all you. Shopify will be your partner in taking your business to the next level. And I tell you how you can make a deal, you can get a deal, you can save money. Brian, you want to know how? It's this easy. You can get a $1 a month trial period of Shopify.

And all that Shopify provides and all that they observe and all that they observe and all that they take in, you can have a dollar a month trial period where you can get into the big money and the big bucks and a big business like that too. All you've got to do is go to Shopify.com slash JCE, all lowercase, by the way, for whatever reason that is very important because they've got all lowercase in capital letters.

Shopify.com slash JCE, all lowercase, $1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1. month trial period, and you will be instantly admitted to the Wonderland that is Shopify and you'll retire rich, happy, successful landowners and farting through silk. No guarantees. No guarantees, but you will have the opportunity with Shopify. Well, that's what Vince used to give out was just opportunity. But no, we're going to guarantee, this is a sure thing.

You're going to become a robber baron, and you'll own probably. a dozen railroads and several oil wells with Shopify. All right. Every time that that happens, not only does a dollar bill come out the side, but also an angel gets its wings. All righty then. What in the world is going on over at the Arcadian Vanguard Network this week

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wherever you find, your favorite podcast. Wherever, it'll be found sooner or later, probably floating in the river. The mothership. All righty, speaking of mothership, so the W.W.E. took the big airship, the big Zeppelin,

they flew across the oceans and into the Saudi Arabia land and they did another episode of Crown Jewel. And Brian, my first question is, do every arena, do every arena, does every arena, or do all the arenas, in Saudi Arabia look like airplane hangers? Is it? I mean, I know it's not a budget concern.

they've got more money than has ever been printed over there, but they just look like the big, you see the big ceiling, it's like a big airplane hanger. Is it just a difference in architecture and the culture, or what's going on over there? Are you an expert in this field? I'm not an expert in the arena situation in Saudi Arabia, no. And when you say they have all the money,

you mean the ruling family, I assume, because I don't think it's the people. It's the family that rules the country. Yes, but they can build. they can build all the shit they got big buildings over there they do they can build all the shit people just can't afford to live in them

well that's amazing so and the announcers it was this because I say this every time we watch one of these shows but I feel like they're changing these fucking guys names but every time

that I say that wasn't Fubar, macafakalube and Slapco Fud, then somebody will write say, no, it's the same announcers we always had. But this did not look like Fubar and Slapco. I believe it was Fubar and Slapco once again. Are they just calling them different names every time?

Well, their names are not Fubar and Slapco, for the record. You gave them those names. Those are not their actual names. Well, but they see. like they have different names every time we see them. So regardless of whether they're the names that I gave them or the names that their parents gave them, they got different fucking name.

What are they trying to stay ahead of the law? Thanks for being here tonight. Now let's show you our Saudi Arabia announced team who you will only see on these shows and nowhere else ever. Ever. Well, now, to be honest, there's not a lot of call to have Raw from

fucking Tyler, Texas translated into Arabic, is there? Well, there probably is, but probably not live. I guess you could do that in the studio the way they used to do it with you and Vince hanging out and having fun on Monday nights. That's a lie. Vince never did learn Arabic. Anyway, the Crown Jewel event opened, and should we make this mention generally before we begin the blow-by-blow description.

that I said to you earlier today, this was probably the best two-hour pro wrestling program that I've seen and I don't know how long. Problem was it took four hours. You think that was, because some of the matches were very good. Nothing was, except one thing,

was really stankifying. But it took so long to get to anything. and is that, did they feel like I get, maybe they're paying them by the hour, maybe it's $12.5 million an hour. So they had to help me. What's going on here, Brian, with just the pace, the glacial pace.

This has been the pacing in their big events for a while where they go for several hours, but you only get a few matches and there's long commercial breaks, either in-house commercial breaks or actual commercials, in this case for tourism, for Saudi Arabia, because that's where I want to go on my next vacation to a nice relaxing vacation in Saudi Arabia, where they just throw people off roofs, that's all.

Fuck Pigeon Forge, I'm going over to... Well, anyway, they couldn't put the bloodline on last because the world champion versus world champion had to go on last, so they bookended things with the other big feature match, the bloodline versus the bloodline with Solo and Jacob and Tama versus Roman and the Uso's,

and do you think poor Loa has figured it out by now that they just have no confidence in him whatsoever? He's just got to be happy to be there. That's what I think. If it makes you happy... Well, that doesn't. Then go ahead and keep getting paid.

So, Roman and Jimmy got an entrance and then Jay got his own entrance with the waving and the eating and you got to say what the crowd that was there do you remember the other Saudi Arabia crowds being this fucking over the top

when they started it was a little reserved right and then they kind of got with it but boy these people wanted to see everything well they were chanting and stuff I remember them going crazy for different people in the past Sammy Zane got a big reaction but again Jay Huso came through the crowd. Well, yes, but I mean, they were hot for almost everything

that was in any way remotely entertaining on this program. They were, they knew all the words. How many people in Saudi Arabia speak English? Or do you think that they're doing the Saudi Arabian equivalent of the fucking Filipino guy that Journey got, take Steve Perry's place where he could make the vocal sounds, but he couldn't speak English,

so he was just phonetically doing the fucking songs. I think a lot of people know English. I think it's one of the languages that a lot of people throughout the world are taught. And in a lot of cases throughout the world, the kids who grew up in different countries are taught multiple languages. As opposed to us, who learn English

and then drop Spanish in 10th grade. But nevertheless, they're singing. They love to sing over there because they only get a couple of these a year, so it's still kind of fresh in their mind. so they loved this but the crowd was great and then they rang the bell as the old say he got no they rang the bell 20 minutes into the program for the first match

and I mean you can tell me what you thought of the match in a minute and to be honest there wasn't much match there but the crowd was so easy I jotted down I said there working a spot show match, which in the territory days, if you'd go to a spot show that didn't get a show very often and they were popping on headlocks and arm drags,

it's great you shine the baby faces, let them do stuff that makes them look good and body slams and drop kicks and hip tosses and stuff. And then you get some heat. And nobody takes too many wrists, but people are loving it anyway. and then you do your finish or whatever because I try to tell the Ring of Honor guys this

at some point, a number of points. How much louder can they scream? Right? So that's where you gauge your performance based on the crowd. And if you're in Milwaukee and there's 500 people, you know, don't risk, life, limb, and property, but you do shit that they'll be happy with. They're already screaming. How much louder can they scream?

Now, having said that, while as a former booker, promoter and performer, I understand that principle, then a big-ass fucking crowd, and the company got paid $50 million. So they kind of worked through this kind of flat-footed, until the finish, there wasn't really anything going on that you were hanging on the edge of your seat about, was there? I said it when we talked about SmackDown. I like the segments with them where they're talking to each other and things are progressing.

And the finishes of the matches usually have some kind of story. The matches themselves go on forever. They're not always paced right, at least for me. and this is you know once you brought up all the sloppiness with the usos that's all I see now you can't you can't look away from it

now can you it's your fault you brought it up and now I can't unsee it well that's because it slapped me in a face when I first saw just like there punches that are open-handed slaps to the face

you can't I can't not see it because I operated a training program but yeah the match I thought was a little lacking but it's not really about the matches when it comes to the bloodline. And that's basically they got basic, you know, long heat on Jay

and then finally, they had kept Roman out for the whole match. It was either Jay or Jimmy. And then finally Jay tagged Roman and got a big pop. I mean, it's working. And then it was Roman against Solo.

And Roman, they did a big one-two exchange and then Roman made his comeback. but the other four guys had all just disappeared. It's like somebody out in the crowd has a tranquilizer dart and some point in the guy, but Roman hit Superman punch and went for the spear, but Solo hit the spike and covered him. And then poor old Jimmy,

he'd waited all that time for his spot and he was late for the save and the referee had to hold up to count. At least the camera wasn't, completely on it, so they were able to almost make you think, oh, maybe he got him and I just couldn't see it. But I'll tell you, if this had been Brooklyn, the crowd would have booed the shit out of it,

but these people are just like, ooh, should that have happened? If they boo, they better watch out. They better watch her back on the way home. Well, yeah, because you can't boo an official government project. But he'd been gone for five minutes, and he came in late on the fuck. Anyway, so then the other four guys jumped in at 100 miles per hour. They went back and forth, and... Finally, Roman grabbed Tama and threw him onto the referee,

but then Jacob leveled Roman and hit that sweet, sweet moonsault, and then did a dive on both Uso's out on the floor, and Solo spiked Roman twice and covered him in one, two, three. And I'm like, ooh. And again, I agree with Solo beating Roman if either, the Uso's had lost it wouldn't have the impact and if anybody but solo got the pin it wouldn't be what they're trying to do but i thought this was somewhat again nobody really gets a fucking out anymore but and then the heels got some more heat and they cleared off the desk and they were

going to power bomb roaming through the desk but jay stopped him but then they got on jay and they put him in the corner with the chair around his neck and they're going to do the ass and a face at the chair and a thing. But Sammy's music plays. And Sammy comes the ring, and Sammy and Solo are standing there talking to each other. But now, meanwhile, Jay is in the corner sitting motionless, upright with a chair around his neck.

Brian, I've recovered from goddamn knee surgery when I was coming out of the anesthetic I was able to fucking take a chair off my head but he was sitting right there and then Sammy looks at Jay but then he goes to hug solo and as he goes give him the hug he gives him the suplex

and then the heels get on Sammy but now all the baby faces get up including Jay taking the chair off his head and they dump the heels and Solo is trapped in the middle with all four of the baby faces Jimmy and Jay and Roman and Sammy and at the same time Roman and Sammy

charged for solo solo moves and Sammy just knocks the shit out of Roman with the big kick and then Jimmy's pissed and Jay's trying to get in between them and the heels are and they leave so again a bump in the road to true domestic bliss here

but like you say the match it was it was the finish and a reason to do the angle. And they'll have a package of the angle on raw and move from there. You know, it's interesting to think that here two years after the fact, I think that's how long it's been,

they're going to pull Sammy, Sammy Zane. They're going to pull Sammy Zane back into this. But I guess if you're going to really a bloodline versus bloodline, he is one of the, now that Romans, all of a sudden we're forgetting what a pricky was, to everyone. Yeah. You know, now Sammy has to try to prove himself to Roman

because he accidentally just hit him and we'll see where it goes. Interesting. And Sammy was one of the most popular members of the bloodline when they were heels. Maybe he'll get his win back over Roman. Remember everyone flipped him? Everyone. Remember there were certain fans, certain smart fans flipping out when he didn't beat Roman Raines in Montreal for the title?

Yes. Everybody in Quebec was, and, San Jose were offended. That's right. But anyway, so that was the opening contest, and where do you go from there? Well, you go straight to the Women's Tag Team Championship

four-team four-way match. With damage control against Lash Leroux and Jakarta Jackson, against Piper and Chelsea against Bianca and Jade. Brian, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you might have glossed over this contest.

I saw the Doomsday device You could see the end of the world from this match I don't know about Doomsday But why do they

They're making custom outfits for the girls now The full body suits Instead of remember when they first started The first show or two They were either wearing like A scuba outfit or sweatpants And a sweatshirt

But now they're actually Making Custom them outfits for the girls. Can anybody just come out and say, what the fuck is wrong with those people over there? In WWE, no, they're not allowed to say that. No, I mean, just anybody come out and say,

hey, Saudi Arabia, what the fuck? Here's goddamn, all these guys out here with more nipples than at a dairy farm. You can see those. They're in their normal attire, but the women have to wear beekeeper outfits. what the fuck is wrong with those people over there I'm not going anywhere

that it is illegal for me to wear my clothing are you oh no there's plenty of reasons I won't be going to Saudi Arabia anytime ever no well I don't mean this specific place if they have a law that says that you are not allowed to wear what you've got in your closet at home is that a place you want to fucking go no well there you go see

Especially if it's Saudi Arabia, that's my point. Well, that's mine too. So high five. All righty, the next match was the long-awaited contest between formerly Mr. Nice Guy and now human-wrecking machine Bronson Reed against our old friend Seth Franklin Rollins. And we must have, you especially, you've become a fan of the chaos and the, the, the, the antisocial behavior and destruction that the human Godzilla film that Bronson Reed is has been reeking

across the WWE universe, right? He's like an aggressive Jerry Blackwell with bad tattoos. I like it. He needs Jerry Blackwell's Afro. The curly fucking whole thing. Well, it actually, it encompassed both sides of black, because he had the beard,

so both sides of his head or top and bottom or whatever. It was just like a giant array of hair around his circular around his face, wasn't it? I like the two when he wore the bumblebee outfit. It was just yellow and black. You get like a giant bumblebee. Yes, and that, well, because that's what the boys fucking caught. You know where that came from, right? That was an inside rib.

It was a get, didn't he wear a mask and actually wrestle as the bumblebee once? Well, yes, because in Knoxville, southeastern, he lost a loser leave town match and came back as the Canadian bumblebee. He had a fucking black and yellow outfit, but the boys said in his outfit, he looked like a bumblebee. He was so short and so round, but he could fly. So he looked like a bumblebee.

Like Bronson Reed, he could fly. Like Bronson Reed. Anyway, they had, because this was a grudge match and blood was bad and tempers were flaring, they did a jumpstart in the aisle way. but here this I started keeping track

because this was the third match right on the show it started an hour and 20 minutes into this pay-per-view the third match and that was not all match time not by any stretch of the imagination

so anyway they jump start in the aisle they fight to the stage they fight down the ramp when they get to the ring Seth rolls in the ring so he can dive back out. And I'm like, what the, this is starting like an AEW match. What the fuck?

And then Bronson Reed lawn darted Seth over the barricade into the timekeeper's pit into a chair and then ran him into the stairs and then rolled him in the ring and the referee rang the bell to start to match. Were we just talking about that last week in AEW? that they've come up with this thing that they're just all now doing, like it's part of the rules that the guys can come out and drop like Agent Orange and nuclear missiles on each other before the bell rings, but then once that they get both getting a ring as long as they still have 50% of their appendages attached to their body,

the referee rings the bell and starts a match like, okay, we're starting now. when did this start happening I don't know but I was at the WCW show at the Paramount in 1993 an infamous disaster of a show where Rick Flair couldn't make it it was a disaster of a show

but Ron Simmons Was he trying by the way apparently he couldn't make it because of the weather he couldn't fly in but Ron Simmons and Chris Benoit for like 90 seconds two minutes had a wild match around the ringside and then New York State Athletic Commission stopped it can't go on anymore it's too wild now instead they start the mat and then they get in the ring

but they started hot here in the ring bronz and reed missed a splash off or did a splash off the top but missed the second one and then seth hit his curb stomp and got a two counts i was like what the fuck where do they go from here because they've been fighting all outside the ring and around the and now they get in and trade their finishes and they've just started. And so then they did shit back and forth and then Reed started getting some heat. And he got heat on Seth

and then Seth kind of made it come back but it slowed way down because it had to. They started at 100 miles an hour. And then they went back and forth where Bronson Reed would take back over and power bomb or Death Valley driver get a two count or superplex off the top road and get a two count.

And but I guess the problem I had was that they started, it's hard to start at 100 miles an hour with a guy that weighs 350 pounds and expect the rest of it not to be 25 miles an hour. But then finally, Reed picked up the stairs and he went to hit Seth with him. but Seth tried to clip Bronson Reed's leg, but he came from the front and kind of slapped his thigh, and then Reed kind of went down to his knees and fell face first into the stairs that he was holding,

and it didn't look good because it's hard to do, and also I think he got tattered himself with that or when Seth gave him the stomp on the stairs, busted his eye open, and then he rolled him in the ring, and gave him a curb stomp, and then he went to the top and gave him another curb stomp, one, two, three. So again,

it slowed down, and then the whole finish with the face into the stairs, I don't, did you, it didn't translate, because he didn't want to fucking hurt Bronson Reed by clipping his leg out from under him, really, but he was coming from the front, and that's harder to do,

and Reed had that weight over his head, So the point is, can it blah? And then three curb stomps and the fans loved it. The fans loved everything here. But I don't know whether this was just the greatest thing ever or not. Am I mellowing in my old age? I mean, it was a lot for their big match. It was a grudge match.

I guess it'll continue because they had the little bit of a face-off at the end. Good visual of Bronson Reed having the blood. I think it was from the stomp on the stairs. that's what I thought watching it. I don't know. I mean, I guess the surprising thing is Rollins going over cleanly. What do you think of that?

Well, I mean, in modern day wrestling and modern day WWE, pretty much either the heel wins or the baby face wins. Almost everything is clean in some fashion or another. Maybe somebody distracts somebody and makes them look like an idiot

and then the guy just hits his finish. But a lot of this thing, yeah, I'll just hit him. when I finish three or four times in a row and then the fans will cheer when I get the pen. Uh, eh. It wasn't as bad as what would follow.

Is that a fair assumption? I don't recall what followed. The women's title match between the refrigerator and Liv Morgan. Oh, you didn't like this? Oh, come on. Look, I know they figure we got a gimmick this thing.

a little smoke and mirrors. It's going to be a clash of styles. It's going to be a clash of sizes. It's going to be a 12-year-old scuba diver fighting a pissed-off parade float is what it's going to look like. I'm with them that they had to try to, you know, disguise a little bit of this.

But this was an opus to how many fucking things can we put into one match to disguise. the fact that the match straight up would be the shits. And it was so much. You like this? Oh, no, I thought... Oh, no. You know, it wasn't really...

That's not nice. I'm not a big Nia Jax fan, and... You're an asshole. You know that were popping me saying, and then you said it. I'm not a big fan of the Nia Jax matches, no. And Luke Morgan, the nice thing was she seemed very touched for a heel. She seemed very overjoyed as a childhood wrestling fan

that she was the first Saudi Arabian crown jewel championship winner. I wouldn't have enjoyed this if I'd have been the one to touch her. You haven't even discussed yet the idea that after weeks of building it up, Cody, Gunther, and then this match, no one wins the actual belt. Oh, I would, yes, well, it's just come up. Okay, I guess it'll come up. I'll go back to you.

Dave, back to you. Back to you, Jim. Well, thank you, Dave. The fucking belts now, we are come to be told. The belts will stay in Saudi Arabia and be on display there, but the winner gets a nice ring you can wear around all year long, and then next year they're going to have another match for another belt that they don't get to fucking keep and take home.

I wonder if, do you think Saudi Arabia made those? things and they're fucking real. And they're really worth like a couple of hundred grand or whatever it might be. And they pay for real security to carry them to all these tapings? We've been seeing like security guards carry it. Yes, I wondered if that's not a gimmick.

When they showed the close-up on this event, I was like, are those real jewels? They really fooled me, so I don't know. Well, I mean, because again, I guess it's racist, say Indian givers and they're Arabs anyway.

don't have anything to do with India Yeah, that whole sentence was wrong Well, and that's why I didn't say it But I'll tell you one thing The people that win the belts They're going to get to take the belts home And that would piss off a lot of fucking people Back in the old days

So the person who wins next year Do they get a new belt That they get the hold for one night? No, I think they've just made these belts And now they're on display in Saudi Arabia If you want to swing by and look at them But the champions get a ring every year. year.

So every year that you get to celebrate with the original belt, you hold it up in the air, you get your photos, and then you give it back. Well, you get to hold it up in the air of Triple H is helping you because it's a fucking big, Liv couldn't pick it up by herself. They're going to do this every year where the weeks leading up to Crown Jewel is just, you know, these security guards carrying a large case of a championship, which they held longer than the champion. You are, you are correct, sir.

Yes, sir. Well, congratulations, Liv Morgan. It's good business for the guys in the suits that have the white gloves that carry the things around. But so the whole thing, and by the way, match number four, they're picking up time. It started only an hour and 45 minutes into the show. But they had somewhat of what could be described as an attempt at a match. And then Liv got a sunset flip power bomb type of thing off the turnbuckle and both of them were down. and here came Tiffy with her briefcase

and she was going to cash in but as she, you know, as she's trying to give it to the referee, she turns around and realizes, oh, the refrigerator is up and confronts her. And old Nia Jacks backed Tiffy up all the way around the ring

and as they got to the complete other side, Nia was looking over her shoulder like, am I standing in the right place I'm supposed to be in? So she was obviously positioning herself. And then Liv runs and jumps out and kicks her and then goes for a dive, but the fridge nails her and tells Tiffy to get the fuck out of there.

And Tiffy starts leaving. And the fridge gives Liv a stiff Samoan drop and I mean a stiff one and Liv rolled her up in a crucifix out of the stiff Samoan drop and got a two count if it was real Liv would have still been collecting her spleen

but now they were both selling and Jacks was selling the roll up bigger than Liv was selling the Samoan drop and Tiffy comes back down with the briefcase and the refrigerator slams live but Tiffie tries to cash in now but there comes Rochelle Rochelle

Raquel A.K.A. Rachel Rodriguez or Raquel Rodriguez. Rakele Rodriguez you keep saying Rachel or Raquel Welch well she grabbed the case and she and Tiffie had a tug of war with it and then apparently from what I can deduce and determine as a former industry professional with decades of experience. It seems to me that if I would have been calling the finish as I saw it happening, that Jacks was supposed to reach over the top rope to grab a hold of Rodriguez to try to get her off a tiffy,

and then Rodriguez was going to snap Jacks' head over the rope, right? and Jax would stagger back and in Liv would come off the turnbuckle with her double knee move thingy. That's what I deduced that it was supposed to be, but instead, the fridge leaned under the top rope and reached over the second rope to grab Raquel.

So when Raquel tried to snap her head over the rope, it wasn't over the rope. And there was, and so, Jack's just stood up and staggered back anyway. Did you see that spot? Oh, of course I saw that spot. Do you think I'm on the right track as to what I'm deducing that it should have been? What are you deducing? That it should have been over the top, bro.

I think so? But she leaned under the top row at two count. And I'm like, Jesus, how much more of this? So then Rachel backed Tiffany up. but Liv jumped out on the floor, but Jacks came and belly bumped, Liv and Rachel into Tiffy, and then got back in the ring,

and the fridge did a leg drop and went for the bonsai. But Dominic appeared, and slid the briefcase in, and drew the referee, and Rachel kicked the fridge off the ropes, and Liv hit her finish, the oblivion where she jumps

into the ropes and then drags the girl down face first but old Nia Jax did a forward roll just like a forward roll like a kid had rolled on the mattress boom and she got covered one two three

and I wrote oh good God was this kind of a mess or is it just me being picky I thought you turned into 1992 Dallas page. Good God! Oh, good God!

I mean, it's Nia Jackson. There was sloppiness all abound, and around and abound. And Liv won, and she was very happy to win. The other heels seemed very happy for her. And that was that. And then Triple H came in. Yes, and that's where he had to help her hold her hand

up with the belt, because it was so big, she couldn't fucking get it up in the air by her. out. What do you think of a triple-wich having this role is so public I guess such a

public role where not only is the executive producer on the screen, but he now does like the Dana White thing where

he's presenting people with belts. He's doing not only did Vince never do that stuff, no WWE

president I ever did that stuff. I like it because it's more real, it's more credible. It is a

Dana White thing that the UFC is established. And it's combat sports oriented. And there's nothing to matter. In the old days, when nobody was supposed to know it was a work, then if the active wrestler or even retired wrestler,

who was kind of the Booker in a territory coming out and doing that, especially if he'd been a heel or whatever, it may have given away too much. but since everybody knows now Triple H has been retired for a while he's the son-in-law they know his public role I think it kind of

makes it more legitimate in that respect that it's more sports-like and he's an ex-joc he's moved into the commissionership or whatever the fuck so I think this works

and everybody knows who he is but that's just my opinion All right. Would you like my opinion on the next match? What was the next match? Kevin Owens versus Randy Orton. Oh yeah, I'm really curious, actually, what you think of if this is indeed a match? What you think of this?

Well, if this was a traditional pay-per-view where people paid money and it was going to be the blowoff of something highly anticipated, I'd say, ah, fuck this was bullshit. But because they did. Did we mention they made $50 million, and the people in the building were ecstatic at everything they saw, and even the people at home couldn't complain because there wasn't much difference in this and a match. It was just a fight, but most of the matches now are all fights anyway.

So for the people who didn't see it, this is what they did. Orton comes out, and the fans are, again, we're singing his song big, and he milked every bit of it. I mean, I didn't put the clock on his entrance, but he took a while to get out there, because why not? They can't scream any louder. And Orton, Owens had come out in a Bob Orton Jr. shirt, and he did that the night on Smackdown that we talked about earlier when he was, he was wearing a dusty road shirt.

Now he's wearing a Bob Orton Jr. shirt. so he's wearing the shirts of the fathers of the people that have turned on him or whatever. But as Orton starts to, and by the way, for those of you who are keeping track, fifth match, two hours and eight minutes into the show. But Orden gets up onto ropes to do his pose and his deal, and Owens gets him with a chair from behind and nails him a couple times. And they go to the floor, and Orton starts fighting back, and he drops, Owens on the desk and then Owens fights back

and Orton is selling his bad leg and Owens is nailing him with chairs and then the referee grabs the chair so Owen stunners the referee and in Orton gets the chair and he wears Owens out with it any agents start running out and the announced to say well they've waved the match off

and at least they didn't fight for 10 minutes and then get in the ring and ring the bell but Orden dropped Owens on the day desk again and threw Sean DeVari out and DDTed Owens but here came Pierce and Aldous

in and Orton gave Pierce the RKO and then they fought over the rail into the arena and there's Owens as beating a shit out of Orton with an equipment case and and then finally to put a period or an exclamation point on it

Owens goes up into the crowd the raised seating section and comes off a platform, off of a railing onto Orton, through a table, and then they both lay there and sell, and that's it. Which again, I know they love doing it. It's just so much fun to do that. But how does it get heat on you as a heel

to lay the baby face out when you're laying there too? you fucked yourself up. Nobody has to get even with you. You got even with yourself. If Orton could give him the elbow drop or whatever through the table and there's Orton in a quivering heap of jelly and Owens is standing over him going, ha ha ha ha ha, that's heat. But if they're both laying there fucking ready for the goddamn meat wagon of the

hospital, is anybody mad at anybody at that point? Tell me your thoughts. My thoughts are that this was a non-match to save the match for Royal Rumble or something. I believe we mentioned at first it was awful quick to do this, didn't we? Yeah. But it was good. Maybe they agreed with us. But, you know, Rollins and Bronson Reed, they gave a finish two. Rollins won. Here, they didn't want anyone to lose yet. So they did this and the way they just kind of fade out and go to commercial. Yeah. On these paper views now, it's crazy.

I mean, you can kind of get away with any non-ending if that's what you're going to do. Can you imagine if there was a basketball game and two guys, one guy was going for a dunk and the other guy was going to try to reject that attempt, and they collided heads and fell on the ground and their brains fucking splattered out and their blood was trailing everywhere. and the announcer said both men are look like they may be dead and they just faded to black and when they came back they were playing another game with other teams and they never talked about it again.

They wouldn't do that, no. I wonder why they wouldn't do that. It worked out well here. Anyway, we now have come, Brian, to the time where the United States Heavyweight Championship will be on the line with L.A. 9. defending against Andrade and Carmelo Hayes. It reminded me, Brian, of a song.

Would you like to hear the song? No. Oh, no. No, no, no. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby. Have ourselves a snack. They got ice cold drinks in the lobby. Ice cold drinks in the lobby.

I think I'm about to go to the lobby. Well, they lobbied to put this on earlier, but they didn't win because this is the death spot, right? Two hours and 25 minutes into the show, they start the next to last match, which is the most uninteresting angle featuring a top guy ever in the wrestling profession. And L.A. Knight even missed the leap up to the top rope and crotched himself. Did you see that? I did. We've seen him do that every now and then. it happens.

No, he did. Because there was two guys up on top this time, so instead of slipping off and just having to jump up and do it again, he actually did the crotch spot where the guy crotches himself on the top rope. Because he had less space for his feet to go. Eight minutes or so, LA Knight gave Hayes a nice BFT 123. Do Ray Me.

That was, what, is this over? Is this thing over now? I don't mean over in a fan exciting money drawing way I mean is it finished done with kaput vapor in the archives history please tell me it is

I have no idea if it is or isn't well as you is or is you not my baby skibab skip up skip up skip up skip up skip up skip up so we were time and ready for the main event we were time and ready it was time and we were ready all the words didn't come out

Gunther versus Cody for the gaudy oversized crown jewel championship that's the approximately the same size as a small Volkswagen Beetle and I got

I was not really happy or wanting them to do the champion versus champion match because I thought it would hurt somebody, one of the participants to have to lose. And I was thinking, well, should they even put Gunther over because maybe that really wouldn't hurt Cody with some kind of, you know, fuck screw job thing, whatever.

But I think they had a good match here and it didn't really hurt anybody. And apparently they're not going to refer to the crowd jewel championship again until next October when they start promoting next years. So it was a good match and they got away with a big match on a big show

that they made money for and didn't really particularly hurt anybody standing, I guess, overall. We can talk about the details in a minute, but they got out of it, I guess. Do you think they got out of it? I mean, it was a good finish considering it was a tough match to have a finish in, I think. that's about all you can say

did they get out of what did they get out of Gunther losing did they get out of having this match without hurting either guy when it was over with and I think the answer is yes absolutely and even the way it was handled after the pinfall the way Gunther left I thought was you know he left strong but again they sang Cody's song

I don't even know the goddamn words and English is my first language you might not be able to tell every once a while but it is. Again, the main event, but they were two hours and 45 minutes into the show for the start of the seventh match. It was a little slow, but this match, the crowd was already hot for it, and they knew this was the big one, so these guys could take their time.

Of course, everybody else had taken their time, and also they took plenty of time in between every other match, but these guys deserved it, and it worked. And between the crowd just going bat shit and singing, O'le, O'le, O'le, O'le, all the time, to start this thing, all they'd do was wrestle. Again, it was back to kind of an old-fashioned spot show match

where we can give them arm drags and arm bars, headlocks, and takeovers, and the people are loving it. But then they picked it up, and when they started the heat, Gunther's an aggressive heel who lays his shit in and Cody can sell and fight from underneath like a master's. So, again, these guys are professionals and they take pride in what they do

and everything makes sense and looks good. There's no stupid dangerous bumps. There's no sloppy work. There's no obvious alley-oop cooperation and, you know, help me stand up here, gingerly balancing on the top rope or doing this cheerleading move. I learned at Mayberry Union High. And they had a good match, and they trade their big moves,

but they put spots in where they can either explain having to sell and they can't capitalize immediately for a cover, and then they get a two-count or, you know, whatever. It's not just an onslaught of boom, boom, boom, huge bumps one after another like the kids do over on the other channel with no thought to the effects of same and to be honest they got that this is awesome chant after gunther had caught a boston crab and then switched it to a sleeper and almost put cody out with a sleeper but cody broke it with a chin buster and hit a crossroads but couldn't cover and they were both selling

and that's where the crowd was going, this is awesome after like three holds in a row. And this, Gunther doesn't rush and he doesn't do weak shit and he gets the most out of everything. He's not going to

stand there in the corner and copy his favorite indie outlaw Japanese wrestler by chopping you 17 times as quick as he can and it wouldn't break an egg, he's going to draw all the way back to the other ring post

and throw something in with a follow-through and make it make noise. And that's what more is needed of in this business. He makes shit mean something, gets the most out of it, and instead of punching somebody five times, they all look like shit, he does it once and it looks great.

And then anyway, they went back and forth. and they hit all their stuff, but there was a reason why it wouldn't work until finally Cody tried the super Cody cutter off the top rope. And boy, he's got balance for a guy that's running up the ropes and looking behind him.

But Gunther caught him in a sleeper and Cody rolled his weight and his momentum on over and stood on his head on Gunther's shoulders and got the one two, three. And it was a good finish because it was a fluke.

It was, again, that's kind of like an old NWA World Title Match finish, where, you know, you've got to, the champion has to retain against the top guy in the territory, and it doesn't want to just beat him.

But it was a fluke. Ah, shit, could have happened to anybody. And so they got by with having, it a good match. Nothing's really particularly settled. And you mentioned the aftermath when Gunther shook Cody's hand, but he also shook his finger at him. He's like, all right, give me your hand. Yeah, but next time, motherfucker, it's going to be different. And off he went. And two Arabian sheiks and two women and beekeepers outfits, or there might have been hazmat suits, got in the ring and presented the belt

that stays in Saudi Arabia. One of those women could have put it under her outfit and smuggled it out of there they'd never know. You could probably get a couch from a furniture store underneath one of those fucking things. I don't know, but again, it's kind of heavy that belt, maybe heavier than the couch,

but that was... She had some system of a truss under the outfit as well, because it's the size of a circus tent. I don't know what the hell you were talking about, but did you see anything... You could possibly even have a small bobcat underneath the women's outfits where they could just have it there, they could just run it and power it up the hill. Yeah, Susanna actually saw some of the women's matches on the pay-per-view, and she said,

you know, why are they wearing those outfits? I said, because they were in Saudi Arabia. She was, oh, they look kind of cool. She's a woman. She doesn't watch wrestling. I was like, yeah, they don't wear those here in the state. She goes, why? I said, well, you know, they don't want to get over.

They've got to show some ass. I mean, they're not going to get over on one of these fucking body suits? Are you kidding me? well but at the same point you could phrase it from the standpoint of the other gender and even if the full body outfits look cool and it's a sexist and misogynist thing to make the girls show their skin is it worse that the girls have to show their skin by wearing the provocative outfits to get over before an American and or English speaking and or the rest of the goddamn world audience

but they have to do that or is it worse that to appear in public in this other place they have to wear stuff that they don't particularly want to make the choice to wear is that worse it's a question for the ages if I say

well how old do you got to be to answer it I'm not exactly sure did you see any of the post-match stuff where Liv and Cody rode on a golf cart over through the complex to the WWE experience so they could do a, you know, a little bit of a press op with the Saudi Arabian chief of bringing American businesses desperate for money over or whatever his job title was. Is that the exact job title, the chief of Saudi Arabian companies bringing

American businesses over to make them look better? Maybe the unofficial title, but I believe that is his role and they did that stuff. Did you get to see any of that? I did not see any of that. What was that on? I was on the peacock. Well, see, I was watching. The place everything else was. on. I was watching this on real television, the way that General David Sarnoff intended. Wait, you bought the pay-per-view? Yes.

No, you did not for this? No, you did not. No! So that I could have the goddamn fast-forwarding capabilities that I'm used to in a modern, civilized society. If there was ever a peacock event, it's this one, you gotta be kidding me, you bought this on a pay-per-view. I'm on the couch in front of my 72-inch or is at 82-inch television.

with full on-screen fast-forward capability instead of stuck here in front of my computer with these goddamn vice-like headsets, headphones on that you've got me where. My fucking ears are killing me now. You can watch it on a TV. Well, but it can't fast forward to goddamn thing. Not if it's live.

The fast forward, no, even on, even after the fact, the fast forward on the cock, on pacaque, is terrible and iffy at best. And so I get real TV so that I can get through the 20 minutes in between matches without going out of my fucking mind. Wow.

I'll have you know. Well, you certainly haven't gone out of your mind. You sound perfectly sane. Well, that's exactly correct because I've always been the sane one. And it's just now that people are finding out that, you know, Cornett's always been sane all along and it was us. It was all nuts.

All right, well, that was Crown Jewel from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. And fingers crossed, everyone gets home safe in one piece. Allowed to leave the tarmac, allowed to hit the air and get the hell out of there. Hit the air? I don't know if I... Why do they... Here's another thing. I've told several pilots about this.

Like old Freddie Floyd, the pilot that Crockett had and several people I've come in contact with. why do they make the terminology so foreboding for people who don't like to fly? In a short time, in a short time, we'll have you at your final destination. We'll be on the ground soon. Heading for the terminal. That's not that bad. What the hell's wrong with that one? Terminal?

What the terminal? Not heading towards terminal. What about, instead of saying, we're going to take you to your final destination, how about we're going to drop you off where you want to go? It doesn't sound too official. Well, it sounds a little bit easier to take, though. Thank you for flying. We're going to drop you off where you, we're ready to go in just a few minutes once we don't do any of the things we normally say here.

Yeah, well, you don't, you scare people that way. It's very nerve-wracking. Well, where are you now? I'm about at the end of this thing. How about you? I'm over here now. I'm over there now. Well, that's not nice, but I'll tell you what.

Folks, we're going to be back unless if the election goes the wrong way, we are quite outspoken. We may not be back. But if it goes the right way, we'll be back with the drive-through in a few days and or the Jim Coronet experience next week. Is that correct, Brian? That is correct. and in parting until then in betwixt and between times

we'd like to wish you love peace and soul thank you fuck you and bye-bye everybody