Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 560: Jim Reviews AEW Full Gear 2024

Episode Date: November 30, 2024

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews AEW Full Gear! Plus Jim talks about Linda McMahon, The Rock, AEW's winter schedule, Robert Blake and much more! Plus Jim reviews Paul Heyman's return with CM P...unk on WWE Smackdown!  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 The midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornett. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag deep art. Onet. Well, he's next. Ahead to Survivor Series with more stars than there are in the heavens. At AEW went full gear in reverse with a crew fit for cable access.
Starting point is 00:01:13 A complete analysis. Right here today on the Jim Cornett Experience. and joining me. Hawaiian Brian the podcasting Lion, the King of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. Co-host to you, he's in high gear and he's high strong, but one way or another,
Starting point is 00:01:28 he's high. The great Brian Last everybody. Aloha, Jim, a pleasure to be here once again. Can't comment if I'm high or not, but the cosmic rabbi of wrestling is here to help everyone with my stupidity and bad music. The Cosmic Rabbi of
Starting point is 00:01:47 wrestling, that sounds like a dusty robe, the type of thing. The Cosmic Rabbi, the first time I saw Dusty on TV in probably 1976 on Atlanta TV. He had sent a tape from Florida. I know that now. But it just, you know, I'm at
Starting point is 00:02:05 my uncle Harold's watching... What did you think it was coming from? Well, no, because I'm 15 years old. I don't know how they're working all this TV yet with the sending of the videos back and forth, but it's on Atlanta TV, Georgia Championship Wrestling. I met my uncle Harold's. He's got the early cable.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And it's the first time I got to see the show and they played the interview with Dusty and he's got the... What did you call those furry hats he used to wear? It was like a furry hat and he's got the fur coat on and the goddamn all the tie-died colors.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And he says, psychedelic camera lady, cosmic camera lady, close in and get a close-up of my million-dollar smile. And it was just different than anything that... I don't know if I ever told you this story, but you just made me think of it. I've always liked those kind of hats, maybe not as furry as the ones Dusty wore, but I always thought those kind of hats were cool.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You know, I saw Fat Albert cartoons when I was a kid. I was like, man, those hats are fucking cool. That's the way, it was a furry fat Albert hat. I don't know what they call them. So when I was a kid, the freight elevator operator in one of the buildings that my family rented office space from on very... Barrick Street in Manhattan, was this guy Leroy, old African-American gentleman, just cool to a kid like me.
Starting point is 00:03:25 He was so cool to me. He would talk to me, and he knew I liked this hat. He got me one of those hats, like a red leather version of that hat. And I looked ridiculous. I was like an eight-year-old white kid, so I couldn't wear it. So I really like Leroy. You look ridiculous as a 40-something-year-old white man. Well, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:03:47 So I really liked Leroy. And then one year for a Christmas break at school, me, my sister, my mom, and I think that was it. We went down to Florida to my grandparents' house a day before my dad. My dad was going to spend another day in the office and just close up shop for the break. My dad leaves the office, says, good night, Leroy, and I'll see you when I get back. Leroy says good night. We all liked them. the next day, my dad flies out of Kennedy Airport that night,
Starting point is 00:04:19 I think it was Kennedy. My dad flies to Florida that night. The next morning... You're not going to tell me something bad happened to Leroy. The next morning, I think it was the Miami Herald. If it wasn't, it was the Sun Sentinel. We got them both in Pompano. Front page of the fucking paper.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Minutes after my dad left the building on Varrook Street, the FBI raided the building, which wasn't the first time because they also raided the fucking porno people in the building. But the FBI raided the building and arrested Leroy in like 1956 in Florida. That's why I was on the front page of the paper in Florida. He shot a cop. What?
Starting point is 00:04:52 And he was never caught. And I think it was a cop. He shot a cop. And he was on the run. They never found him. And somehow they found him. Because my dad couldn't believe it. He's like, look who's on the fucking front page of the paper in Florida.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You know, the day after he said, I'll see you tomorrow or I'll see it when we come back. And he saw him in 20 to 30 years. Well, that's my cool floppy hat story. Well, did you make sure that Leroy had adequate legal representation? I don't know what happened to Leroy after that. Well, he's a family friend. Every time there was a family vacation, something crazy like that would happen. Right before the family...
Starting point is 00:05:32 With Leroy? No, with just anything. When Andy Warhol died in 87, because we did all the commercial printing for anything involving Andy Warhol, as soon as he died, this guy Rupert's son. Smith, who was like a sales guy working for Andy Warhol, ran into the factory and started signing everything, Andy Warhol, Andy Warhol. So there's like thousands of Andy Warhols out there from this guy and other guys that are signed Andy Warhol that have nothing to do with Andy Warhol.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It's a Rupert Smith. Rupert! There's like five art dealers who listen to this show who are losing their fucking minds right now. But yeah, that's my floppy hat story. I always thought that hat was cool. Not on Dusty, though. Dusty pulled it off because it matched his fur coat, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. It was a set. I don't know where he got either one of them. Why are you yelling? I don't know why I'm yelling at you. Why are you so fucking upset? You're so aggressive today. This one's for Leroy.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Well, yeah, and what justice for Leroy. That, okay, somebody has to fucking get that sign on dynamite in the upcoming weeks. Justice for Leroy. Well, again, if he, if he shot a cop and was on the run, maybe this was just, maybe this was justice for Leroy. I hate to say it. It was all alleged from 1956 to you were eight years old
Starting point is 00:06:48 would have been fucking 25 years or whatever. It was about a woman. I want to say it was over a woman. Well, probably justifiable. They had the picture of him when he was young in the paper. It had to be at some point between, I wish I could narrow it down.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It was between like 88 and 91. But, uh, yeah, the play. You know what the best, if the picture in the newspaper, he would have been wearing the floppy hat, that would have been the best thing. If they arrested him, if they had a picture of him getting arrested,
Starting point is 00:07:14 he would have been wearing a floppy hat. Justice for Leroy, that's the sign. It's not the sign, ladies, gentlemen. Well, I'm telling, I want to see that sign. I'm dying to see that sign on television. Poor Leroy deserves to be remembered after all this time. On AW Dynamite, I'd rather see a sign that says justice for the wrestling fans.
Starting point is 00:07:35 There is no justice for the wrestling fan. There's no justice in wrestling because the WW fans are going berserk listening to the top guys talk about maybe wrestling one day and the AEW fans are sitting on their hands watching these guys beat the shit out of each other for 25 minutes we'll talk about that program later on but okay I told you yesterday and now you've stolen my thunder
Starting point is 00:08:02 you've already told now your story of your interaction with all these famous people the guy who forged Andy Warhol's autograph and a guy who got his picture on the front page of the Pompano Beach fucking Guardian or whatever, I told you yesterday, I said, I've told you about the story of the six degrees of separation. There was an old game.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Do the kids still do that kind of thing, or was that a 90s thing? No, that was a thing, and then it was, what, six degrees of Kevin Bacon? Any movie star could be traced back to Kevin Bacon. Well, I have some six degrees of separations that don't involve any bacon or sausage, or any other pork products,
Starting point is 00:08:42 but I told you that I feel like I'm playing name that tune now. I can separate myself in three degrees from Robert Blake. And you said, what? And you had never heard that. Have I not told this story? I don't remember this story. Was this during that period of time where you were murdering people's ex-wives or whatever was going on with Robert Blake?
Starting point is 00:09:05 What? No. What? Robert, didn't he murder his ex-wife, hire someone to murder his ex-wife? wife? Yes, you made to tell me that you are not completely versed in the entire saga of Robert Blake and the murder of his wife
Starting point is 00:09:17 and the whole nine yards and his fame and, you know, he had to be and everything else. I am familiar with a lot of it. You know, he had a reputation for being a complete dick. The cast of Saturday Night Live said that when he hosted the show in like 82 or 83, whatever it was, he was like the biggest asshole. But I never bought him as a tough guy. He just looked like a little I don't know, it just was like a little stout guy. I never bought him as being Mr. Street.
Starting point is 00:09:39 But that's the thing of it is I think it maybe it was a Napoleon complex The little man type of thing But for those uninitiated Because if Brian's Not up on this Robert Blake was a child star A child actor
Starting point is 00:09:54 Maybe not necessarily a big star Back in the rascal He was one of the rascals In the late 30s early 40s He was a little Mickey Gubertosi He was our gang or little rascals One of the iterations of those things And then
Starting point is 00:10:06 As he grew to adult to it. He had a dry spell there for a while, but then he got the part in In Cold Blood, the movie adaptation of the Truman Capote book about the clutter family being murdered, slaughtered in their home in Kansas, and it was a major motion picture. And he's the next James Dean. He's the greatest actor of our generation, right? And then makes a few movies. But then he gets the
Starting point is 00:10:35 Beretta TV series. And he's one of the biggest stars. He's a private investigator, Barretta, don't do the crime, if you can't do the time, don't do it. The theme song was all over the fucking place. And the best I liked, I watched Barretta when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It was what, 73, 74, 75, 76. But the best part was him going on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. And they booked him because he was, as they say, he was a different. kind of cat. You didn't know what he was going to fucking say. He was, you didn't know
Starting point is 00:11:15 where he's going to say something off color, or you didn't know he's going to say something hilarious, or you didn't know where he's going to go on some diatribe telling these stories about when he was a child actor and all of the world is on him and he's, you know, you could tell he had psychological things going on, but it made for entertaining late night conversation on television. So then nobody hears much of Robert Blake for a while. And then, what was maybe you can Google and find the year but then in the early 90s his wife gets murdered in her in their car they had been to a restaurant out of los angeles and then they went back to their car and then his story was he said oh i forgot my gun in the booth in the restaurant i need to go
Starting point is 00:12:05 back to the restaurant get my gun and then he goes back to the restaurant, starts to tell him, I lost my gun, I left my gun here, oh, there's my gun. Meanwhile, his wife is sitting in the car way down the lonely street from the restaurant and she gets shot and killed, right? That's the story, and they arrested him, and there was a big trial and come to find out... For a little man, five foot four. A big trial for a little man, but his wife was named Bonnie Lee Bakely. And she also, there's been documentaries on this. I saw one several years ago and even some of the details escaped me,
Starting point is 00:12:50 but she had been also involved with Christian Brando, the son of Marlon Brando. He was involved in a lot of stuff. He was involved in a lot of stuff. Google him, kids. Did he kill himself? wink or did he actually get shot by somebody? How did he die? No, he, I believe, killed his sister's lover and then his sister killed herself. And the rumor is that he's the father of one of Michael Jackson's children, I believe,
Starting point is 00:13:23 the youngest of the children that it was his DNA actually used or his sperm or whatever to fuck. Well, if he was Michael Jackson's bodyguard for years. If you dig into that, you find out that Christian Brando and Robert Blake both thought at one time that they were the father of Bonnie Lee Bakely's baby. Say that a number of times quick. And I don't even know what their marital status was at the time that she was murdered. But he didn't like her at all, Robert Blake, and he had, I think, moved her into a house on the back of his property,
Starting point is 00:13:59 but he loved the kid that he thought was his, but Christian Brando had thought it was his. There was a whole big drama over that. and anyway so he was arrested and he was tried on this thing and god damn now how did he get off I'm trying with a sock oh come on dirty little man but the point is this was I think maybe right before the OJ Simpson thing it didn't no it was after it was it after okay it's right there didn't get as much coverage 2001 was when she was murdered
Starting point is 00:14:34 he was arrested in 2002 he was acquitted in 2005 okay then there were civil cases her three children filed a civil case and in 2005 a jury found Blake liable for wrongful death
Starting point is 00:14:52 and ordered him to pay $30 million dollars and then he filed for bankruptcy and then he's never paid a thing and boy, now he looks like he's got to be 80 years old now or whatever. He's dead now. Oh, is he dead? He died a few years ago, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:15:09 He died. Yes, March 9th, 2023 at the age of 89. Okay, yeah, because he would, the gray hair had taken over and he was shriveled up and everything. But the point is, the three degrees of separation, Bonnie Lee Bakely, they come to find out when they do all these investigations over her murder was running some kind of, several enterprises, including she had a lonely hearts thing going on where she would correspond with men looking for companionship, and then somehow she'd either move in with them
Starting point is 00:15:44 or avail herself of some of their money. And that was what, that's how she got pregnant and, you know, was Milken Brando and Blake. And also she was doing a candid photography business. Come back before the internet and you know, if you were collecting pornography of the homemade sort
Starting point is 00:16:13 rather than the professionally produced stuff, you had post office boxes, you had people putting ads and they would trade things back and forth and sell like here's $15 for a portfolio of five candid photos or if your pen pals with someone, then you would say, well, I want a picture of you, Brian, riding a lawnmower, and I'll send you a picture of me dribbling a basketball or whatever. Well, I knew a young lady who was an avid collector and aficionado of the, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:50 of home exchange porn industry. The home exchange porn industry. Well, you know, now it's a big deal. the amateurs, the pornography featuring amateurs, they're all professional. They're getting paid. They're doing this as a business.
Starting point is 00:17:06 This was, it was like the underground tape traders of the Wrestling Observer newsletter, but for porn. Only back then everyone was Harry. Yes, either Harry or John Smith or some other kind of alias.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But anyway, so when Bonnie Lee Bakeley's photo was on the the news as having been murdered, as I mentioned, this young lady that I knew, that collected the amateur porn, I got pictures of her. She had actually ended up with pictures of Bonnie Lee Bakeley and all of her various poses
Starting point is 00:17:48 that she had been sending out before she hooked up into the, let's have a kid by a movie star and milk that fucking racket. So I know a person who has pictures of the person that Robert Blake murdered. in indelicate poses. Wow, Bonnie Lee, boy. Wow, she was from over here. Maristown, New Jersey. Who knew?
Starting point is 00:18:11 She was 44 when she was murdered. She was married... One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten times. There you go. Forty-four years old married ten times. That's fucking crazy. Does it mention her home enterprises? Uh, let's see.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Bakely began a mail-order business sending nude sending nude pictures of women including herself to men. She also ran Lonely Hearts ads in magazines and advertising or no, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:18:48 in magazines advertising for a male companion. After communicating with men who answered the ad, she would ask for money for rent or trash. She's like the GWF investor. Bakely's business and scams eventually afforded her enough money to buy several houses in Memphis, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Oh! And one outside of Los Angeles. She pursued a Hollywood career as a singer and actor under the name Lee Bonnie, but was unsuccessful. My Bonnie lies over the ocean. My Bonnie lies out in the street. My Bonnie got me in trouble
Starting point is 00:19:23 because I shot her after we had something to eat. In 1989, she was arrested in Memphis for drug possession and fined $300. In 95, she was arrested for attempting to pass two bad checks from an account of a Memphis record company. So she was apparently tearing things up in the USWA territory. Late 80s and early 90s. She would have been good on TV as a valet.
Starting point is 00:19:48 She'd do anything, it seems like. Jesus. Yeah, and then she could get married in the ring. In 1990, Bakely began pursuing singer Jerry Lee Lewis. Oh! Bakely eventually did meet Lewis and eventually became close friends with his sister, Linda Gale. Can you imagine not marrying Jerry Lee Lewis and be like, well, I really saved myself there. That guy has guns and he's crazy and he's shooting at people and he's been accused all sorts of shit.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But at least I'm friends with his sister. I'll take this little guy over here, Robert Blake. She went after Dean Martin, Frankie Valley, and Gary Busey. She ended up with Christian Brando. And then Robert Blake. But that's like aiming for A and getting D. I want Dean Martin, Dean Martin and Frankie Valley. All right, you're going to date Marvin Brando's kid.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And Robert Blake, who's like 60. But once it's, once it's failed with Gary Busey, isn't anything a step up? That must be intense. Must be an intense relationship with Gary Bucce. But this was six degrees of Jim Cornet. Well, three degrees. Two degrees, three degrees. Three degrees.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Three degrees. Well, I'm time two degrees from Bonnie Lee. All right, do you still have these photos? No, I never had the photos. Oh, she had the photos. In the collection of the acquaintance of mine who was degree number one in the three degrees. When will I see you again? Wasn't that the three degrees?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Possibly. Anyway, you know who else has got a home-based business, Brian? No. Yours, truly. Oh, congratulations. The guy that's speaking to you. you right now. Cornette's collectibles based out of my garage, directly
Starting point is 00:21:33 to the south of me. Underneath my feet as we speak, we are, well, it's Thanksgiving weekend. It's not, but it's coming. I don't know when the people are going to hear this. Sometime over the Thanksgiving festivities. And right now, and until
Starting point is 00:21:50 December the 3rd, you've got a shot at the Midnight Express Action Figure Collector Set 4-pack, the big one with the book and the certificate of authenticity and the autographed photo and the collector's display box with the four beautifully crafted figures of yours truly and the Midnight Express, $40 off at Jim Cornett.com until December 3rd when we go back to sanity and bump it up to the regular price. And plus all the other stuff is on sale. And with all of the delays and problems that have
Starting point is 00:22:27 been going on here at Castle Cornett and the health issues over at the feather bottoms, if you want anything by Christmas domestically now, internationally, it's up to the gods. But if you want anything domestically, please order by December the 3rd so I can sign it, handcraft it, give it a kiss, lick it and stick it and let the feather bottoms mail it because this is not McDonald's. We don't just pre-sign these things and have them under a heat lamp. We do it to order. So Jimcornad.com,
Starting point is 00:23:04 the fine gifts for Christmas, or fine gifts for Christmas fans. Who's in your family that's a Christmas fan? The fine Christmas gifts for the wrestling fan in your immediate social circle is what I'm trying to say. Brian, how many people are in your immediate social circle? You counting now? I'm on mute now, just having a great conversation with you.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Well, there you go. I wondered why I've heard from you in a while. That's exactly why. No, we have some breaking news. I was a little... Oh, you were preoccupied. What's broken now? This is someone who I've actually been thinking about lately, him and his partners
Starting point is 00:23:46 and their work, and I recently watched something, and I've been thinking about him. But at the age of... Does it have an age here? Does it have an age here? At the age of 80, airplane... naked gun and police squad, writer and director, Jim Abrams has passed away. And he's 80? He was 80 years old. 80.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's too old, isn't it? How can he be that old? Well, they see. Well, he was just a young whippersnapper of a provocateur entering into the Hollywood space to do this classic movie when he was just a mere nipper, a mere, a mirror of almost a gleam in his father's eye. He was a young man. How can he be 80 years old by now? Well, there it is. I know you're a big fan of airplane. That's why I bring up. Well, yes, that's why it was done by a young person. He was just barely older than me. That's not true. He couldn't, he couldn't have been, when they did airplane, he couldn't have
Starting point is 00:24:44 been more than 15 years older than me. So how did he end up being 80 when I'm only, oh, shit. Well, there it is. For those of you who are fans of Kentucky Friday, theater. There's some news for you, but back to you. And Kentucky Fried movie. Which came from Kentucky Fried Theater, but they weren't happy with it. But I loved it. I have a VHS on my shelf
Starting point is 00:25:09 in the TV room alongside the groove tube. Those were the two classic comedy movies of the 70s. That's right. Well, why did you, why do you play so with the guy that does stuff that I like is dead and you've reminded me how fucking old I am now? This is your show.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Well, I saw airplane in the theater, I was barely able to goddamn drive. I figured he was only just a little bit older than me. What do you think of the naked gun? Well, I think somebody ought to put some fucking clothes on it. There's children present. Did he write this conversation I'm having with you? I'm asking me. Surely you can't be serious. Well, I am serious. Don't call me Shirley. No, I love the naked. And police squad, the series, the television series, six episodes. It was all the people could could take. They couldn't take any more greatness.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And the fact that the guest star got murdered in every opening episode or every opening bit of the episode, opening scene of the episode. Well, speaking of opening bits getting murdered, this is your show. All right, well, speaking of various crimes, let's talk about the cabinet.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And Linda McMahon is going to be back in charge of something, apparently. As, you know, in January 20th, the United States, for the first time at its history, starts being run as a criminal enterprise. And many stooge's, sycophants, and other people talented in deception and deceit and criminality are being chosen to head every department responsible for anything in this country. and apparently Linda McMahon gets to head up the Department of Education which by the way
Starting point is 00:27:03 a lot of the well I can't even say Republicans now the maggots would abolish the Department of Education but Trump is going to let Linda run it while it's around this is what she's always wanted was to buy her way into politics
Starting point is 00:27:21 She tried a couple times in Connecticut and was routinely rejected by the voters. $100 million to run for Senate twice, right? Vince McMahon crying at the back of the stage when she conceded. I'll never ever forget that visual of him because that's when he had his funny little haircut. And that's when he realized he'd spent $100 million and she still didn't win.
Starting point is 00:27:40 But the point is it was a concerted effort. They got her thing on the board of directors at Sacred Heart. She was a part of something in the state of Connecticut dealing with education, at which point it was revealed that she had lied. Well, don't hold on now. Saying that she had a degree in education when she didn't. Hold on now. The reason why she started getting involved, I read the piece, the puff piece that they
Starting point is 00:28:08 did on her where she said, oh, I wanted to get involved in my local school board because of the issues, blah, blah, blah. Linda McMahon running the business side of a multi-million company located in Stanford, Connecticut, they were trying to social climbing is what Mama Cornett probably would have said, but they were trying to, Vince didn't interact with anybody unless it was in his world, but she was out there with all the other business people and the business leaders and the Chamber of Commerce types and the, you know, high-muckety-mucks that have the conferences down at the Sheraton.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And she figured out a way to get into the Board of Education, and that was her entree into meeting some people in politics and or having some level of experience in public service. And you ruined the punchline of the whole thing when you said that she didn't have a degree because she actually told people when they were questioning why Linda McMahon who's never taught
Starting point is 00:29:16 anything to anybody in the way of education in the way of a public school or a school teacher setting should be the head of the Department of Education. It was revealed that, well, she graduated from one with East Carolina University or wherever
Starting point is 00:29:33 she and Vince went. And she has a degree to teach she's qualified to teach French. and then when they checked that that meager slim qualification to head the entire Department of Education
Starting point is 00:29:49 for the United States of America they found out well she said I thought I had it I thought I was qualified but I'm not I don't she couldn't even get that when they tried to pass something as innocuous as that through
Starting point is 00:30:04 but that was the slimmest of I mean, what a cover story. Well, yes, you can, the Department of Education that they want to abolish, by the way, and the only reason I've heard is that the Republic right-wingers wanted to demolish, abolish the Department of Education is because they teach children in school things that happened,
Starting point is 00:30:36 such as, White people from Europe came over here and fucked the Indians out of their land and fucking made them sick and herded them onto reservations. Or we kidnapped untold amounts of African people and brought them over here to do all the work under very unfavorable conditions or whatever else. They don't want to teach children what happened. So they're mad about that. So they want to abolish the whole thing. but in the meantime, they want somebody to run it that administers all of the grants,
Starting point is 00:31:13 all of the federal money to the various schools for children to go and allegedly learn. It also distributes all the money for the special needs and the handicapped children in this entire country that are able to go to school to have the programs that they need to do whatever they need to do. But they can't take truth over there, so instead they're putting a woman who lied about being able to teach French
Starting point is 00:31:41 in charge of the Department of Education. But again, going back to what she did in Connecticut, it's about how much money you throw at the wall. How much money did she put into this year's campaign? Was it like 10 million, over 10 million? Millions and millions and million. That's what the cabinet picks and all these picks are. And we've said this, and now we're getting what we deserve.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Like I said a few weeks ago, and by the way, for the people who are mad because I won't every goddamn time open my mouth cut a promo on Donald Trump, whether they either want to listen to it or they don't want to listen to it, but they want to listen to it because they don't want to list to it. I don't have fucking time. We got to talk about wrestling. You know how I feel.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But he's putting people in positions, either people that gave a lot of money to help him get reelected, so they get stuff like the Department of Education because they're not going to bomb anybody. And then for the people that are going to bomb people, he wants the goddamn people that will do whatever he says, because they're criminals also, and especially for the Justice Department, and by the way, they made mention in a variety of places that Linda McMahon makes either the third or fourth person either being investigated criminally or sued civilly
Starting point is 00:32:55 for some form of sexual assault that has been nominated to the cabinet or to the various positions that the Mango Mussolini is not. now able to fucking muscle his people into. It's either criminals to make sure that he and the rest of his criminal enterprise don't go to jail, Department of Justice, things like that, or it's a thank you
Starting point is 00:33:24 for people who have given millions of dollars to get this fucking asshole where he is, like Linda McMahon, and now need to be rewarded, not with a job they need monetarily, but some position so they can be important in the running of the new criminal enterprise that is the United States of America. But anyway, so Linda fits the requirement of, you know, she gave a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:33:47 so yeah, give her something to do because none of these people are actually concentrating on doing a good job or even doing the job. The people he's nominated to be the heads of the Department of Interior or Department of Energy are all oil company fucks that are going to drill more and ruin our natural resources,
Starting point is 00:34:08 and ruin our climate because it'll increase their fucking profits while their miserable white bloated carcasses are still on the planet. They don't care what happens afterwards. As a matter of fact, the people that he puts in those positions don't believe in climate change to begin with. They think it's fictitious, even though it's happening in front of them, because it would hurt profits. and Matt Gates as Attorney General who was being investigated by his own party for having sex with underage girls paying hookers thousands of dollars and using drugs
Starting point is 00:34:44 he was going to be the top law enforcement agent in the country until even he had to resign or not resign but just say fuck it don't consider me because he didn't want any more investigation so the criminal charges wouldn't follow these the kind of people
Starting point is 00:35:03 they're being put in these important positions because the fucking head guy it was only out for himself is now glad he's going to stay out of prison and is going to milk this whole thing for as many trillions of dollars as he can till he croaks of old age but back to Linda
Starting point is 00:35:21 specifically talking about Linda this became a big story too because the mainstream media briefly became concerned about the ringboy lawsuit which we had just talked about that Vince and Linda WWE and TKO the current owner
Starting point is 00:35:37 turned a blind eye to Mel Phillips molesting boys and the fact that he was fired and brought back certainly lends a lot to that Vince McMahon I think it was Vince
Starting point is 00:35:51 it may have been Linda but I think it was Vince stating that they knew he had peculiar habits but they wanted to give him another chance they knew what was up So whether they ever held liable or not, that's another story. You've got to prove things in court to the...
Starting point is 00:36:05 What, none of these people get held liable, because they convince suckers and gullible people that they're innocent, and it's all made up by everybody except them. Then the mainstream media got upset. The mainstream media is everybody except Fox News. We're not supposed to trust. We're not supposed to trust.
Starting point is 00:36:29 CBS, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, the New York Times, Washington Post, fucking Time magazine. We're not supposed to trust anybody. Except Fox News with, and he's now putting all the fucking hosts of Fox News in charge of shit. And that's the fake news. It's a goddamn see-through propaganda arm of the whole game that all these rich, white, miserable fucks are playing. whether it be Elon Musk or Vince and Linda McMahon with their billions of dollars or fucking pig shit himself
Starting point is 00:37:06 who's leaching his money off of everybody else we don't know how much he has on his own he'll have plenty pretty soon he's running a casino so what is what is innocent little sexual abuse with children's scandal from 40 years ago for the Department of Education
Starting point is 00:37:27 when the Attorney General was supposed to be a guy that was fucking underage girls two years ago. Again, to make this about Linda, you keep going in every other direction. Linda specifically... It's indicative of the issue. It's indicative of the McMans. She's uniquely unqualified for this position.
Starting point is 00:37:44 She is totally unqualified for this position. That's why she's got it. You know what qualified her? Her checkbook. That's right. Her checkbook. And it's... At least she's...
Starting point is 00:37:56 One of the more inoffensive ones, she was only turning a blind eye to shit rather than actually participating in it. So maybe that counts for something. Will she be one of the nice ones? Do you think she's going to put WWE history in his curriculum in the schools in place of all the stuff they don't want the kids to learn? Well, I think that would be akin to what a lot of the, you know, things that she represents would try to do. Because WWE history has always been a bullshit history written by the McMahon's to hide reality. From them, you know, even now, they say... She has had experience.
Starting point is 00:38:37 They say that she's the founder of WWE. No, she is not in any sense of the word. They purchased with the money that was already there, the interest of the other partners in the existing company. Well, wait a minute. How about phrase? it this way. She married the son of the guy that started the company and he sold it to his son
Starting point is 00:38:59 for a song. But they make it sound like Vince and Linda were just sitting there and just decided to start a wrestling company. Let's just do it. We can do it. Her whole backstory is bullshit. But we'll see what she does when she disagrees. You know, they say elections have consequences. So now everybody in the United States
Starting point is 00:39:18 that has children in school can feel that in effect their children are being educated by Linda McMahon. We'll keep people posted on the criminal charges against, you know, as they come out and come up and are filed against all the other people that are going to be in charge of shit around here. All right. Well, anyway, now that we know how the United States is going to be run, would you like to before we talk about some of the television that's been going on here lately,
Starting point is 00:39:50 we can tell the people where they're going to be able to see AEW live over the winter and springtime. Isn't that going to be fun? Yeah, AEW sent out a press release. What day did this go out? This was on the 19th of November announcing the winter live events. We've had it a while, folks, to be honest. We sat on this because we just did.
Starting point is 00:40:11 didn't give us yet, but now it's come up. All right. AEW announces winter live events for 2024, 2025. Schedule includes AEW Fight for the Fallen in Asheville, North Carolina, and debuts at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City and Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles. And they have a number of dates here through March. Let's start right there. That's progress.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yes. They have never, and they've been doing it more on TV where they just have, you know, AEW coming here. I think they need to change the graphics and make it really pop out more that they're doing it. It just seems like a commercial to ignore, but they're trying. And again, announcing dates through March before we even get to anything else about this, again, that's progress for AEW. Yeah, well, and the biggest thing, but first, let me give them a helpful hint, and I'm not going to berate them or go on a tangent about this, but when there are so many matches. announced with so many graphics and so many shows that are being
Starting point is 00:41:14 the rampage and the collision and the pay-per-view and so many other types of commercial things that it's hard to differentiate. I would try to look at a way to, yes, I'd try to promote their live events more, and I would try to look at a way to cut back on some of that other shit that nobody cares about anyone.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Nobody cares if Maria May is going to hit fucking Tony Storm with her purse on Rampage. I think that's, you see what I'm saying? It's so much you can't, you can't even take shorthand and jot it all down. People are going to memorize this? Focus has never really been the strong suit of AEW and Tony Con. But anyway, like you said, they sent this press release out to anybody that would listen, but the progress to me is not announcing the dates as far in advance.
Starting point is 00:42:09 there are, which that is progress, but the progress is where the shows are going to be located. Because apparently they've made a New Year's resolution, or maybe it's a Christmas miracle, that they're not going to run the NBA arenas in all these cities and put 2,500 people in them. Because they are going to, and it's not like we've been saying that a while, but it's not like that we invented the concept of if you're running events, that only draw 3,000 or 4,000 people. Tops in most places don't run 20,000 seat buildings. That's not a revolutionary concept.
Starting point is 00:42:49 But apparently now they're taking it to heart. And from Wednesday, December 18th, they're doing dynamite at the entertainment and sports arena in Washington. I don't know what that building is or what its seating capacity is, but it doesn't sound like the goddamn capital center in Landover, Maryland or whatever. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Maybe you might want to look some of these up as we go along here just to... That first one you just said, entertainment at sports arena, Washington, D.C. Capacity, 4,200, specifically 41919 for concerts, 411 for basketball,
Starting point is 00:43:32 422 for boxing, and 411-419 for e-sports. Well, there you go, but the point is it's not 20,000 seats. They're going to be able to shoot the whole building. And if they can get, they haven't even been drawn 4,000 people in a lot of places, but if they can get 2,500 or 3,000 and it'll certainly be an improvement in the look.
Starting point is 00:43:59 And then the 20th, 21st, 22nd of December, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, they're doing Ring of Honor final battle, AW collision, and a special taping of AEW dynamite at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York, the big room up there above the Manhattan Center. Special taping, because obviously that's Christmas week. This way you can tape the Christmas dynamite in advance. And I don't have a bell time on my information,
Starting point is 00:44:27 but I'm going to tell them ahead of time, Sunday might be tough. What do you mean? Well, after three days in a row, especially in New York City, You know, and Sunday night, what time, no, what time are they going to start? Because remember the problems we used to have with people getting out and couldn't get the fucking bus or the train or whatever those people ride up there? Yeah, and don't worry.
Starting point is 00:44:50 The transit's only better now. Well, I mean, I don't know what, you know, what's going on, but it depends. They might have to bump that up a little bit. And also three days in a row in the same building, I don't care if they're in New York City. It's going to get, it's going to get tougher, right? But they should do well still. It's 2,000 seats. How about Game Changer Wrestling?
Starting point is 00:45:08 They just announced they're doing a Hammerstein show in January, and then AEW comes up and announces three dates the month before. That's a killer, isn't it? Well, you know, for the kind of people who like that kind of thing, I'm sure the garbage fans will be out in fours. They'll probably stick hypodermic needles in their own cheeks the fans when they walk in just to show solidarity. If I could ask you a question before you move further with any of the dates here,
Starting point is 00:45:34 the idea that AEW was restricted from moving into smaller buildings in part due to the set, the dynamite set, the big stage, the pyro, and everything else, how necessary is all that real? I know it's become like a expectation that if you have a wrestling show, you need a stage, there needs to be a ramp, there needs to be pyro, and everyone has to stand on the stage and do a little pose. Like there becomes standards. But is it necessary?
Starting point is 00:46:03 I mean, are people not... gonna watch the show. You god damn idiot. You've blown it all to hell. The thought that, oh, our set is so big, we have to run the Yom Center in Louisville and draw 3,200 people or whatever. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Get a smaller fucking set. You fucking lunatics. I think in a lot of cases, it's the other way around. There's sets so big because they have to cover up the whole end of an empty fucking building. They don't need all that big shape.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Have you ever seen the Alman Brothers the DVD of their concert at the Beacon Theater? Which concert? At the Beacon. They played the Beacon every year. The one that they released on DVD. Oh, I don't know. Okay, point is, it was a masterpiece of video production, and they're in the Beacon Theater. It's not like, again, they're not in Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I'm not saying the beacon is unattractive, but it's smaller. you dress your room depending on the size of the room and you run the size of the room based on what you can fucking put in a building and there's no reason why they can't remember when the WWE was still was running the NBA sized arenas
Starting point is 00:47:20 and still couldn't put the big set in and you know what they did they said fuck it we'll have a smaller set because we're selling all these tickets So they had a smaller set and they had a full house and it looked better than the big goddamn drive-in movie screen
Starting point is 00:47:37 a lot of these the talent in AEW would look better on a smaller screen to begin with but no that's ridiculous reasoning to run a 20,000 seat building with 3,000 people in it because our set's too big
Starting point is 00:47:52 but beyond that do you think the sets are even necessary that's my point no well it's some set is necessary in terms of dressing the bit. When they're at the Hammerstein, you've been there. They've done the Rock Roll Hall of Fame ceremony awards presentations there.
Starting point is 00:48:10 They've done MTV or they've done major television and it looks like a cool place if somebody that knows what they're doing and has a budget's in charge of it. It looked pretty good for Ring of Honor for wrestling just because we didn't have a big set but we were able to sell all the tickets. But still, it didn't look anything like it could on a big-time presentation on national cable.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Go ahead. If they're doing three nights there, should they have done Sunday at the Manhattan Center? Well, no, I don't think so, because if that's dynamite, that's their flagship show, and it's a 1,200-seat fucking ballroom. I don't, you know, I don't think they'd need to move downstairs in the same building for the sake of 800 seats and change their whole apparatus. They, hopefully, somebody in charge of that production will watch some of those Rock Roll Hall of Fame ceremonies or something and see how that building can look cool on television
Starting point is 00:49:09 if you've got a little bit of a budget and make it look like that because all these places by necessity that we're talking about on this list, they're all going to look different. They're going to have to. You can't make some of these places look like an arena, the Hammerstein. and you can't, go ahead. See, that's why Manhattan Center would have been a good pick for one of the tapings, because Manhattan Center's smaller. WWE, when they did raw there, knew how to make the room look good
Starting point is 00:49:38 with the big red background. You always had a lively New York crowd there. You don't have to worry about selling more tickets after two other days of, what, 2,800 tickets? How many is the Hammerstein? No, but financially, because those union assholes, just to carry shit from the second floor to the sixth floor, it cost you the same as another night's rent.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Well, that's the other problem. You have to deal with the union and the Moonies. Yes, and the Moonies. It's the only place they still have some power, the Manhattan Center. And then New Year's Day, January 1st, they're doing dynamite fight for the fallen in Asheville, North Carolina, and it said Harris Cherokee Center. And I was like, my God, they're going to a casino. This may be too much downsizing, but apparently that's the new name of the Asheville Civic Center,
Starting point is 00:50:25 that Crockett ran all those years. So, 7,500 capacity, and by the way, that's also going to be the first AEW dynamite that will simulcast on Max. So that's, you know, Asheville, they're doing stuff for hurricane relief.
Starting point is 00:50:43 They've got local people that live there. They should do well. And it's a good looking bill. Super Brawl 93 was there for WCW. It's a good looking building for wrestling. and you don't need to draw 20,000 people. On January 4th, they're doing collision in Charlotte at the Bojangles Coliseum,
Starting point is 00:51:05 which again is the real old Charlotte Coliseum. And it's 12,000 seats. They ain't going to have anywhere near that many people, but the other option in town would be to run the 20-something thousand seat building. And the old Coliseum, I would think, is fairly cheaper than the other one. And then they're doing dynamite on the 8th
Starting point is 00:51:30 at the F&M Bank Arena in Clarksville, Tennessee. Now, this may be a mixed bag. Where is Clarksville? Well, that's what a lot of people ask. No, it's, I guess for you in Jersey in the New York area, it's suburban Nashville, but it's about 35, 40 miles from downtown Nashville, up Interstate 24, right on the Kentucky state line or near it.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And I've never heard of this building. It's probably one of the new suburban arenas. But again, I would think it's probably, if it's in Clarksville, Tennessee, it's not seating more than 5,000 people. Maybe you can reflect or genuflect on that. The building opened July 2023, so it's brand new. capacity for concerts 6,000, basketball and ice hockey
Starting point is 00:52:23 55, oh excuse me, basketball 5,500, ice hockey 5,000. Oh, well, there you go. And Nashville is spreading out. So, Saturday, January 11th, they're doing collision at the Aiken's Ford Arena in Athens, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:52:42 And for Athens, Georgia, kind of double Clarksville, Athens, I'm going to say, God, I'm trying to remember. I lived in Atlanta. We went to Athens. It's 75 miles from downtown
Starting point is 00:52:57 Atlanta. It's up in the northeastern corner of the state. Athens, Georgia, for all you REM fans out there, is where the college is, where they, you know, the first time I worked Athens, Georgia, Brian, in 1983 for Georgia wrestling superstars, it stood out in my memory for two things. number one, I had never worked on an actual show
Starting point is 00:53:23 that ran with as few people as was in the building. We had like 78 people in the building. And it was at the J&J Sports Center where the Georgia office used to run that building. You could get seven or 800 in there. We just didn't. But on the wall in the locker room was a poster when REM played this fucking place.
Starting point is 00:53:49 and that was 83. This was 1983, but the poster had been there for a while. I'm not saying it was advertising a concurrent, but it hadn't been that long. What was, it would have been, what,
Starting point is 00:54:01 1979 or 80? They were playing 80, 81 somewhere. Biggs in fucking college? What about the B-52s? You see anything for them? They were also from Athens, aren't they? There was a confusingly a raid, a raid collection of wigs in the corner.
Starting point is 00:54:19 B-Hive Wigs. I don't know what that was there for. The Atkins Ford Arena in Athens, Georgia. Claude Aikins. Claude Aikins. Good old Claude, as we know them. They broke round April 28th, 2020. Uh, I'm trying to see when it actually opened.
Starting point is 00:54:39 But capacity, round concerts, which may be closest to wrestling, 8,500. Oh! End stage concerts, 7,000. 5500 for hockey. Okay, see, here's what I was going to say about Clarksville and Athens. Yes, you're running a smaller building, but it's in a way smaller market. And AEW is not the WWE in that they're kind of ubiquitous.
Starting point is 00:55:08 People may not know what's going on right now or even for the past 10 years in the WWE, but they know what it is, right? Is that a fair statement? Yeah. Okay, so if you're in Clarksville, Tennessee or Athens, Georgia, and you hear WWs coming, you might perk up and look, but you hear AEW, especially if they got Orange Cassidy and goddamn Wheeler Yuda on the poster or whatever,
Starting point is 00:55:36 it's not, these are not large pockets of smart fans, of internet, literate fans that are on the, you know, keeping up with the latest. wrestling. That's why they do best AEW in the more major markets and the places where there was indie wrestling at a higher level. And I don't know that Clarksville, Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:56:02 unless people want to drive from Nashville or Clarksville, they may come down from Louisville. Or Athens, they'll come up from Atlanta. Or will they come down from Greenville, South Carolina? I don't know. But it's a trip for almost everybody. It's not like You know, there's this big pocket You see what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:56:21 It's not like there's a giant pocket of smart internet savvy wrestling fans that like AEW and all the indie style wrestling in Clarksville, Tennessee. We shall find maybe because of the college But aren't they losing their younger fans? They are and they need to do a better job of that But again, a lot of that comes down to the talent
Starting point is 00:56:43 That has pushed beyond the bad angles that are on the TV show but the one I'm really interested in your thoughts on. Yes. Thursday, January 16th, a special, a very special, AEW Collision, the Broadbent Arena,
Starting point is 00:56:58 Louisville, Kentucky. Remember, I've mentioned this. Before, when talking about, you know, smaller buildings in markets, broadband arena, I mean, it's going to write itself, but that show is going to stink. Here's the thing they probably don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And maybe they'll, let's see January 60th, it'll have been cold weather. Broadbin Arena is at the fairgrounds. It's the secondary arena to Freedom Hall, which was when it was opened in 1957, the largest arena in the state of Kentucky, seated over 16,000 for basketball. Broadbin Arena, and I just saw it on the news last week,
Starting point is 00:57:38 is used for, like, especially at state fair time, but all kinds of times of the year, rodeos or cattle shows, livestock exhibitions. A lot of the year it has a dirt tractor pools. They have a dirt floor in a lot of the times. I mean, there's a concrete floor there somewhere, but they will bring in the fucking dirt. And there's bullshit and cow shit and pig shit.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And there's, I've been to several wrestling shows. The W.W.E. ran a house show there. I think Crocket ran it one time maybe but you know they've got a perpetual kind of a hint of taint in the air from all of those goddamn cattle shows and livestock and horse things and they're not going to like the locker rooms
Starting point is 00:58:33 because they're going to be big enough and they're not going to be able to bring all that if they bring those 18 trailers of equipment they're going to have to park 15 of them over next to Freedom Hall but it seats and it's a big floor area a big floor area because of the rodeos to tractor pulls and if evil caneval jumped something in Louisville he probably jumped it at Broadbent Arena
Starting point is 00:58:58 and then it's an oval so the stands are not real tall so what they're going to have to do is they're going to have to cut the arena off in half and make it 3,000 of the permanent seats and then concentrate on half of the floor area and shoot it creatively and maybe they will have room for a little bit larger set there but I guarantee you that the rent on the broadband arena
Starting point is 00:59:28 is like one fucking tenth of the Yom Center. So they won't have to pay as much for the whole goddamn taping as they probably paid the Yom Center to walk in there. And that's what they've got to be, if they're trying to run a business, that's what they've got to be looking at.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And the same thing, without the cowshit smell, on January 22nd, they're going to Knoxville, the Knoxville Civic Coliseum, not the Thompson bowling arena or whatever they call it these days, the big, where UT plays basketball
Starting point is 01:00:03 and the Stones play, but the old wrestling building, the Coliseum, it's been there, Since the late 50s, everybody in town knows where it is, and you can shoot it for wrestling beautifully. If you've got three, it seats 6,500, if you open a whole thing up, if you don't use the one end and put the curtain on, that was generally the wrestling set up for Smokey Mountain
Starting point is 01:00:30 and Continental. And most folks, after the boom period in the 70s, you seat 5,000. and it's an arena so you can shoot it and it'll look good. And I guarantee you the, I don't know what they're paying now, but we used to be able to rent the building, pay the fucking ticket takers and the ushers and the security and the goddamn ticket printing and the box office
Starting point is 01:00:58 and associated costs for about two grand, maybe. It's probably gone up since then, but it's not what they were paying whenever they'd go to Knoxville in a 20,000. seat college arena. Real quickly, February 8th, Fort Bend County epicenter in Houston. I got no
Starting point is 01:01:17 fucking clue. Oh, no, I'm sorry, I missed Huntsville, Alabama at the Probst Arena. Is that the old Von Braun Civic Center? Indeed it is. Okay. You know... I think they've run there before. Yes, they have the Von Braun
Starting point is 01:01:33 Civic Center in Huntsville was the big building. It probably still is, I would think, in Huntsville, I don't know. For years, WCW ran there, et cetera. It's, I would say, for Huntsville, for AEW Dynamite and a special taping of collision on a Wednesday night. That's still a little ambitious, but you have baby steps. And then the Fort Bend County epicenter in Houston on February the 8th. I've never heard of it, but I assume it's one of the newer, smaller facilities.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Do you have any information on that? The Fort Bend Epicenter, sometimes stylized as epicenter, is a multi-purpose arena and event space in the Houston suburb of Rosenberg, Texas. Rosenberg? I never heard of Rosenberg, Texas. It comprises an 8,600-seat arena, conference rooms, a multi-purpose arena, and an outdoor pavilion. It is owned by Stonehenge LLC. see. Trying to see if there's any other information about it.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Well, I think we, and that might be a little ambitious, but it's better. But you know what? This is another new building. They opened for the first time August 26, 2023. AEW was there for Dynamite in October of 2023 right after they opened. So another new arena. Well, think about this. Because we've been bemoaning the fact that as all the old wrestling buildings got closed down
Starting point is 01:03:04 and these new major arenas are built and are bidded on and, you know, the cities are into it. And that's all the attention was for years, the NBA teams and the hockey teams, whatever, there's a lot of things, attractions or things that can draw three or four or five thousand people, but they can't afford the buildings anymore. So now they're making new,
Starting point is 01:03:30 they're building new, smaller buildings because they fucking got rid of all the old smaller buildings. But anyway, the H.E.B. Center in Cedar Park, Texas on February 11th. Cedar Park is somewhere around Dallas, right? Is it? I am looking it up right now. The H.E.B. Center. I remember saying his name in the past. Capacity 8,000. It is actually near Austin, Texas. Oh, okay. Near Austin, Texas. Cedar Park is near Austin, Texas.
Starting point is 01:04:04 February 19th, the Arizona Financial Theater in Phoenix. I don't know much about it, but when it says theater, it makes me think that it's a smaller facility than the Phoenix Suns would play in. I think this is size-wise just right. You have to see what the room looks like, but the Arizona Financial Theater, venue capacity, 5,000 people.
Starting point is 01:04:28 February 26th, the Front Wave Arena. in Oceanside, California. That's Los Angeles, right? Or thereabouts, the environs? Thereabouts in the environs of somewhat. Capacity 7,500, and this building just recently opened in 2024. There you go.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Boy, howdy, and the crypto.com arena in Los Angeles for Revolution on March 9th. Now, I would assume that's a, it's a pay-per-view, that's a bigger building. Is that a new facility or one that's been renamed that we'd be familiar with?
Starting point is 01:05:07 The Crypto.com Arena was formerly known as the Staples Center. Oh, gee, okay. Well, now that's... They're planning, shooting the moon for revolution. Yeah, the bucks to come back with Kenny to square off
Starting point is 01:05:22 against John Moxley and the skinheads. Ooh, in that case, they might ought to downsize to the fucking theater they used to use in Reseda. Yeah, really? Wow, how can no one's running that building anymore? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:36 And March the 12th, the Save Mart Center in Fresno, California. Save Mart Center. That sounds like the Center for all cultural activities in Fresno. Well, this is a big building. Capacity 18,000. Good Lord. Are they having the mayor of Fresno in a death match or what? Maybe they think that after running all these small shows for a few months,
Starting point is 01:06:03 they'll build up the interest so people think, oh, fuck, I got to go to Fresno. Has anybody ever uttered those English words in that order before? Never. Never before ever, no. And, well, that's the last date that I have on this release, but before we close up this particular topic, have I heard that they are changing locations over in Australia,
Starting point is 01:06:27 the stadium event that was that when was that what when was that supposed to happen or when is it supposed to happen i think it's supposed to happen in like february it's coming up it's grand slam they used to do it in the in the fall at arthur ash but now they're moving it well the big announcement last fall with oh you know because sunk corp stadium they said oh our first stadium event in australia and we had questioned at the time and some of the cult cornet listeners wrote in, well, you know, there's some people that watch them in Australia, but we don't know about a stadium full. Are they now out of the state? Have they pulled a slaughter, as is known in the industry? Yeah, Tony Conn has announced that due to terrorist threats, they have to go to a much smaller arena with a much more exclusive ticket distributed
Starting point is 01:07:20 countless. Due to threats from the fans. Well, no, I mean, you know, it's a big move to make right now so close to it, but I guess that says something, a couple months away, three months away from the show, ticket sales are alarming enough, whatever demand they thought was there in Australia for this product right now is not there, so they're going to have to move to a smaller building. Well, but that's, you know, downsizing as they get older, Brian, that's what you're supposed to, you're supposed to downsize. Well, they're five years old now.
Starting point is 01:07:52 it's time that their joints are creaking they got some hemorrhoids they're feeling gray around the temples they got a downsize and that way their world champion in these smaller buildings won't have to walk so far through the crowd to get to the ring well that's the upcoming AEW schedule
Starting point is 01:08:13 coming to an area and facility near you but you know what when there's a demand for a product Brian it sells like hotcakes because there's always a demand for hot cakes otherwise known as pancakes. And when you demand something, you got to have it. And there is a demand
Starting point is 01:08:29 for the fabulous, the wonderful, delicious, protein-packed chocolate shake drink that our friends at Orgain produce. Well, I see,
Starting point is 01:08:41 I'm always trying to say it tastes just like a chocolate, a chocolate milkshake, and you're always saying, but no, no, because that way people think it's bad for you, but it's actually,
Starting point is 01:08:52 it's good for you because it's got, 30 grams of protein and only one gram of sugar. But if I say protein drink, well, then that's going to make people like me think, well, fuck, I'd rather guzzle some liquefied cow innards than drink a protein drink or a protein shake. I've seen Vince McMahon dump that horrible mortar mix
Starting point is 01:09:15 he called protein powder into a... I'll take a dump. You know what? I saw him shaking two of them one time, and he looked just like he was jacking two. two guys off. But anyway, so I got a bad feeling about protein drinks. The personal trainer and the chef.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And I got a bad feeling about the chef and the personal trainer, too. And so I'm calling it a chocolate shake, but what it is, it's an incredible drink that will help you because it gives you energy to keep you going. It helps muscle support and recovery, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, managing hunger. You know, you can use this to promote healthy weight management in combination with diet and exercise. So see, right off the bat, I got one out of three, and that ain't bad. There's only one gram of sugar per serving in the organ 30 gram protein shakes. And it's made without any soy ingredients.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So it's not all salty. You know, that's a problem. Brian, every time you put soy sauce in your chocolate milkshake, it just throws the whole thing off. So there's no soy ingredients in this whatsoever. Once again, it is delicious. I have one every morning. I become a big fan of it. It's become a part of my routine.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I think all the other listeners would like it, whether you work at or not, you need some delicious protein. And this is one of the best tasting protein shakes I've ever had. Well, see, what I was doing was I was getting the, especially at holiday times, I'd get a box of white fudge covered Oreo. and just eat the whole thing. But now if I drink this, I feel like I've had my chocolate and my dairy goodness and all that kind of stuff. But at the same time, it's a whole lot better for you than a whole box of white fudge-covered Oreos, ain't it?
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Starting point is 01:12:27 That's right. Or game. Yes, that was what I was talking about. They did a Smackdown, Brian. Do you remember that? I'm trying to look at my notes here. We covered everything else so I can get rid of that because now we got to talk about Smackdown in Salt Lake City. Well, we at least have to talk about that main event. That was really the or the main event segment, not the main event matched.
Starting point is 01:12:47 there's never a match for a main event Brian come on now for heaven's sake what kind of operation are they running here like we said all their their top guys have to do is come out and talk about wanting to wrestle and the people are jumping up and down in chanting and over on the other side of the street
Starting point is 01:13:09 these guys are fucking attempting to paralyze each other and people are yawning and catching flies in their mouth and this was another example on the November 22nd edition A Dark Day in American History not because of this show but it couldn't help but all they had to do was start out
Starting point is 01:13:34 at the opening with Solo and his bloodline and Bronson Reed going to the ring and there were the OTC chance from the crowd and everything and big booze when Solo wanted to get acknowledged. And the only information they had to impart was that they were one week for more
Starting point is 01:13:54 games and we're ready, but Roman Raines didn't. Because he's not even here yet tonight. And by the end of the night, Roman Raines needs to come out here and surrender and just
Starting point is 01:14:09 acknowledge me. And he said, no, we're not going to have this fight. We're going to, so we're giving up. And that was it. So now we know we got to wait until some point later tonight to find out what Roman's answer is and they're going to give us some matches in the middle and, you know, whatever else is going on.
Starting point is 01:14:33 And again, it's when you get in this position where your fan base is accepting everybody as a star in the position that they're supposed to be, they don't accept, goddamn Blair Davenport is re-rearrow. Ripley or whatever, but you know, the people are doing all the work for them. They chant, they cheer, they boo, they do it in the right spots
Starting point is 01:14:56 and they just tease it and then pay it off later and your goal. And these other fuckers are running people down with fucking cars and buses and people don't give a shit because it's a big fucking mess. Have I made that point?
Starting point is 01:15:12 Maybe I need a big fucking bus. Well, anyway, And then the wrestling portion of the program opened with a three-way for a potential shot at the new U.S. women's title with Bianca versus Chelsea versus Blair Davenport. And Bianca was looking good when suddenly on screen in the garage, there was Jade Cargill laying on the hood of a car, splayed out like she had jumped out of a building
Starting point is 01:15:50 like a stockbroker in October of 1929. And Bianca was conflicted. Wait a minute. Should I stay in this match or should I run and see who ran my fucking friend over the car? And finally she decided to fucking go back there. And then they continued the match in Chelsea won. And we were a half an hour into the proceedings at that point.
Starting point is 01:16:15 And then in the back, Bianca got in the ambulance with Jade, and they said the word hospital again, I'll have you know. Did you hear that? I did. They said it right out. I thought that was one of the seven words you couldn't say on television. But it's a new day. Under Vince.
Starting point is 01:16:34 That's right. What did you think of Jade laid out on the car the way they handle it? Apparently she really is injured. Oh, are you kidding? She's really injured. She's going to be out for a few months, and this is their way of handling. What the fuck happened to her? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:48 All this shit they've been building in the Survivor Series, and her and Bianca is the female equivalent of animal and hawk. You remember when people used to not get hurt doing this? Yeah. And well, now somebody's going to take me to task for that. You remember when people didn't get hurt nearly this often doing this? Take two. So anyway, speaking of ribbing the fans,
Starting point is 01:17:21 LA Knight then wrestled Pablo Escobar. And because now that he's gotten away from the other guys, here he is with this guy. And he was about to do the elbow off the top rope when there is another one of those guys, he sees shaky Nakamura in the entranceway. And that allowed Escobar take over for seven, and hit a frog splash and go for his finish and then LA Knight just said fucking turned around BFT
Starting point is 01:17:52 123 and then Shakey came in and beat up LA Knight and run him into the post about three times and walked out and my thoughts on shaky are well known and god damn it it's L.A. night is like a a parade balloon. He keeps rising in the air, but they got ropes on him, and they keep pulling him back down. They won't let him just fly away and be free, Brian. Like a parade float should. All right, let's move on.
Starting point is 01:18:33 All righty. So then in the back, the garden gnome, Johnny's same face, a.k.a. Gargano was trying to apologize to the Motor City machine guns for Tomaso Champa's actions. He's a good guy. He just wants a title match. And the machine guns said, well, we think the street profits deserve the match. And then the profits walk in.
Starting point is 01:18:58 And besides the fact that they look like giants next to all these other people, they say they're going to deal with Champa tonight, and then we're going to have a tag title match. And their attitude is a bit abrasive these days. Maybe they're getting more of an edge about them. And then we get to Nick Aldus questioning the refrigerator jacks about Jade. What happened? I don't know nothing.
Starting point is 01:19:29 I ain't seen nothing. But then Cody walks by and Aldous stops him and say, nobody has seen Owens tonight. We don't think he's here, but Cody says, hey, he's not going to miss this chance. I know he's here. And off goes Cody to the ring. got the 9 o'clock hour. So we have successfully gone the first hour of this fucking program with a women's match and a fucking uninteresting match with L.A. Knight and Mr. Escobar.
Starting point is 01:20:02 But at least we get to hear Cody talk. Can you tell I'm being slightly sarcastic? No, and you know what? That's the kind of pace we have to review this show. There's a lot of nothing happening, but the things that happen stand out. And I've critiqued Cody's promos in the past. This was the kind of Cody that he needs to be right now, and I thought he did a great job here.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah, because they've got this issue with him and Owens, and they're going about it in a different fashion, but it's made Owens more interesting that he was for a while there, and plus you can tell when Owens didn't interested, because then he's really not interesting, because he's not interested. And he just for a while there, he was just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now he's got something he can chew on. If a Cody came up or came out with the game face on,
Starting point is 01:20:52 and no wasted time after the Cody chance and everything, he called Kevin Owens out. Get out of here right now. I know you're here somewhere. Let's settle. And boom. And Owens comes out from one of the breezeways, and he's in the stands in front of the people.
Starting point is 01:21:08 And Cody said, get in the ring right now, and he starts after him, but the security is there to keep Cody from, they're closing up little loopholes. There's security guys there so Cody doesn't run and get Owens. And Owens runs his mouth. It's all your fault. I fought the bloodline for four years.
Starting point is 01:21:27 They tried to end my career. I did everything I could to try to fight them. And I stood by you when you fought Roman Raines. But then all of a sudden, Roman Raines needs a partner. And you say, yes. Well, he's pissed about that is what Kevin Owens is. And then Cody said, enough, enough, enough. justify it all you want, but it had nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 01:21:51 You've got to be a victim. But nobody holds Kevin Owens down more than Kevin Owens. There is some pointed commentary being written into this verbiage. And then Cody said, you know, that Owen self-sabotages himself. And, you know, he put him over his bit, you know, he's got qualities, but you self-sabotize yourself. and then Owens pulled the trigger on the wrong guy. Owens did or Orton didn't deserve that.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Owens crossed the line and Cody's going to kick Kevin Owens' ass. But then Owen says that Cody's going to get the match when he says he's going to get it. And he hates Cody Rhodes. And Cody said, you don't hate me, you hate yourself. So, but at least all this makes sense. sense. And it's and it follows from one
Starting point is 01:22:51 week to the next and people that are presented as stars that have interest from the fans and can perform at a level to justify it, are doing it. And, you know, in the middle is yeah, is, is
Starting point is 01:23:07 quite dry. But your thoughts. Good segment. This is the kind of Cody that we need. Again, it's a couple of interviews in a row. come out there in his suit. He's coming out there dressed like he means business. And Cody, as insincere as he sounds talking, he counteracts that really well when he's yelling. You believe him and you hear his voice crack. Yes. Or sometimes not even yelling, but when he's, when he's mad,
Starting point is 01:23:36 when he's upset, when he's aggressive verbally, he's at his better. When he's talking at a pace that doesn't sound practice. Because when he yells, he talks faster. Yeah. And he spits the words out, and you believe him more. So I like this. And as we learned, and you'll hear after time travel, this will be the main event for Saturday night's main event in December. And then I'm jumping ahead of segment, but it ties together because in the back, Carmelo Hayes, as Cody's walking by him, Carmelo smarts off to him.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Cody shoves him and all this runs in. And I love this line. That's why I mention it. Cody said, time to reevaluate. your first round draft pick. I think the time for that was about five minutes after it was made. But anyway...
Starting point is 01:24:25 Aldous should have said, why do you go complain to the guy who drafted Odyssey Jones twice? Yeah. Is he still on that Odyssey? Yeah, no one knows where that Odyssey went. So who knows? And then they had the mid-show bloodline update.
Starting point is 01:24:42 We're now Roman Raines and the Uso's and Sammy Zane are there. They're in the back and they still need a fifth guy. And Sammy's out of ideas. And the Uso's suggests Cody. and Romans said, no, that's old news. And Sammy said, well, let's try Seth again.
Starting point is 01:25:01 And Romans says, no, we don't need anybody else. We're going to stand together or we're going to die together. And so Sammy says, what's the plan? And then Romans, like, I don't know. And a scene. so now we've got to wait till the end to find out is he going to go out and acknowledge him is he going to go out they're going to have a fight but it's five to four
Starting point is 01:25:27 what's going to happen here they build this stupid shit up so well that you're sitting there what are they going to do what could these grown men possibly do i just don't know and then we see bayoli and baoli baoli baoli bailey bailey and bailey and a special version aired in louisville that day the bailey and naomi and timi and
Starting point is 01:25:48 and candy match. And 10 girls got in a sloppy fight, and Ria Ripley came out and cleared the ring with a Kendo stick. And then Champa wrestled Montez Ford, and Montez won with a roll-up. And Tomaso got on him, and Dawkins came in, and Gargano pulled Dawkins off Champa,
Starting point is 01:26:11 and Champa nailed Dawkins, and Gargano pulled Champa off Dawkins. And they argued, and Champa shoved Gargano down and the machine guns came out and Champa bailed out and the guns helped somebody up.
Starting point is 01:26:26 I can't, I don't what the, the guns helped Gargano up and the other fellas ain't happy. And that was the main event wrestling match, ladies and gentlemen. But now it's time for the main event segment. The in ring, the entrances of the
Starting point is 01:26:47 the new bloodline and the original bloodline. And they enter the ring and it's a four on five face off. And the people are chanting OTC, OTC, and Solo lays out his deal. I'm not here to fight you, Roman. I still love you. I love all of you. Love is in the air.
Starting point is 01:27:13 If you were to join us, then we could run this place. for years and years to come. But you don't have a fifth man or a wise man. You have no choice. Surrender and join my team, or you die where you stand, which other was a little melodramatic, but he got the point across.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And in solo hands Roman the microphone, and there's the OTC chance, and Roman is milking, The response, he's thinking, he's got that introspective face that he gets, and what's he going to say? And suddenly, you hear over the PA system, ladies and gentlemen, in Heyman's voice and the place blows. Have you ever heard a pop like that for somebody's voice?
Starting point is 01:28:14 That's kind of what we expected would happen. I didn't know they were going to do it here. I didn't know he was going to be dressed in a new outfit, but they didn't hear. Well, but he's perfect of black and red. The bloodline color, and he looked like John Taffer on Bar Rescue.
Starting point is 01:28:28 He hadn't got a tie. He's got the red. What kind of shirts do you call that stylish men's shirt where you don't have to have a collar or a tie on a shirt? And the black suit, and his hair is black, and he's shaved, and he looks clean.
Starting point is 01:28:47 and he said, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul Amen. And he cuts the promo. There's no way to do war games with four on five. That math doesn't compute to me. So it's going to be five on five. And as he makes the grand gesture befitting the Grand Wizard or Bobby Davis or any one of the greats, you hear Camuselini
Starting point is 01:29:21 back for Survivor Series and the place blows again and here comes see him punk out and we've talked about it would it be Brock Lesner or would it be because they left the clue months ago that Hayman said
Starting point is 01:29:42 well punk had been off limits as a favor to me they still had a relationship So it's punk and he comes out, he's taping his fist, he gets in the ring and the fights on. And the baby faces clear of the ring mostly and the Uso's and Sammy do their dives. And Roman Spears Loa and Punk GTS is Tama. And then Roman and punk see each other. And there's the big CM punk chance.
Starting point is 01:30:14 And then there's the This is Awesome chance. And all Roman had to do, all Roman and punk had to do was stare at each other, and they're not on Mike, but you can see punk signal. It's not for me, it's not me and you, for you. It's, I'm here for him, pointed Paul. And they're off the air, and the punk's the fifth man. This is millions of dollars they're generating
Starting point is 01:30:45 with a goddamn single segment on television. And again, the universe around the bloodline only grows. If Brock ever is going to come back and have any involvement with it, that's down the road. That's not here. Punk coming out there, the way he came out there, doing the tape on his hands as he was aggressively walking towards the ring and then just going right into the fight, was perfect. Yeah, because he didn't need to say anything.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Yeah. No, but you never, but that rarely happens where you get the big pop or someone coming out there, and then they don't just milk it. They don't take their time. It was exactly, he just went right to the ring and started the action. Oh, yeah. Everyone went crazy, and you talk about things down the road. Way down the road, you can maybe do something with punk and Roman.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Punk's now mixed up with the blendline stuff. Punk and Rollins still have to get that taken care of. So there's a lot going on. And again, there's still other family members that have been signed. Rollins can tell punk at some time, well, yeah, they came to you when I turned them down. They've got matches after matches that they can book or combinations or whatever that they can work now. And again, we're now a little over a month away from John Sina coming back. And WrestleMania season starting.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Good Lord. They're getting the most out of the least, which has always been a Heyman trait. but I think the company as a whole has adopted it. But that philosophy has never been more successful. There's never been more proven results that it actually really does work. Well, what do you think the odds are now on Survivor series there? Brian, is it going to be the bloodline or the mud line? Who's it going to be?
Starting point is 01:32:37 Are the good guys going to win out? Or is this just another chapter in the morality play before the eventual conclusion? of this some time in the future. What's the odds? Who are you betting on? Oh, boy, you know, I really don't know because I don't know who's going to get to win. You'd almost think Roman Solo, I should say. You'd almost think Solo's team has to win just because they need a win more than Roman's team does.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Yeah. Roman's team can keep losing and you'll still wait for them to win. It's the baby face chasing the world champion. So I think I'd put my money on the current bloodline. Well, I think the current, the new one. ones because they're both current. They're both happening now. But the newest ones. The newest one with the Tonga brothers. Well, in that case, we're going to go right now and download the Draft Kings Casino app. Folks, I'll tell you what, they will take your money on just about anything.
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Starting point is 01:36:01 need to travel through time to another dimension and another time. Yes, and when we return, and you'll never even know we were gone, because we are gone, but We don't even know it. Then we will discuss further the AEW pay-per-view. Oh, just, just fie upon you anyway,
Starting point is 01:36:26 telling me to not, we got to be straight here and serious here. We have, we have jumped through. I didn't even do the sound. I, well, I, we'll put it in tomorrow. We have jumped through some hoops here and some time because we're in the middle of a fluid ongoing situation, not the pisser that this podcast already. is fluid but rather
Starting point is 01:36:50 at every evolving situation Brian I'll tell him there's a couple of things going on and one is I had to get on a phone with the Hotschkiss feather bottom because my email I thought had been a hijacked
Starting point is 01:37:06 or was obliterated or whatever the fuck here and apparently I'm not the only one because I tried to see the email is as we need to exchange emails when we're doing this program. I know we try to be as low tech as possible to fit my sensibilities, but I've got to
Starting point is 01:37:26 have the email for you to send me shit and for me to read shit off that we're talking about. And the goddamn email error 404. What the fuck's going on here? And then a quick phone call to Hodgka's Feather Bottom indicates that apparently thousands of Microsoft 365 customers worldwide, according to the Associated Press, are also saying, what the fuck? And the Microsoft has acknowledged an issue impacting users attempting to access, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it said the company's status page said it identified a recent change that it believed to be behind the problem and was working to revert it.
Starting point is 01:38:17 They couldn't even say fix. They didn't revert it, as in everything was working fine until you did something and then you fucked everything up, you dumb, son of a bitch. Wouldn't that have been easier to say? I guess so. Well, it says on this...
Starting point is 01:38:34 You have an internet problem. Why'd you call the least internet proficient person, you know? No, he's the guru. He's the goddamn honcho. He's the mega, mega, Godzilla King Kong of all internet officinados. He tells the Apple guy, what was it named Jobs,
Starting point is 01:38:52 he tells him what to do. He passed away years ago. Well, see, that's because Hotchkis told him, hey, drop dead, pal. Boom. But I'll tell you, it says that it, Microsoft shared that it was deploying a fix. It had reached about 98% of affected environment.
Starting point is 01:39:14 but my environment is still affected. Still, the company's status page later added, targeted restarts were progressing slower than anticipated for the majority of affected users. And also, oh, that's not who I was looking for. Hold on here. Is it Hotchkiss? Fuck off.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Quit calling. I recognize this number. You never leave a message. You have a business on your caller ID, so unless it's monkey business, blow me. me. So anyway. So if it's monkey business, they don't have to blow you. Oh, I'm up for the monkey business.
Starting point is 01:39:53 You said, unless it's monkey business, blow me. Unless it's monkey business, blew me. Because then the monkey would have to blow me. No, but you're saying if it is monkey business, no blow job necessary. Well, it depends on what the monkey wants. I'm not going to force anything. You know, I don't want to be me-toed by a monkey. But anyway, see, that's a.
Starting point is 01:40:16 See another thing, I got the Microsoft thing going on. Thousands of outage reports from users of Microsoft 365. So I told you this whole thing is just a plot to get us dependent on this shit. And the alien overlords, they're going to snatch it out from under us. Elon Musk has to be from some other planet. No humans have a face like that. But anyway, besides that, I got the phone in my pocket. I got one phone in my pocket
Starting point is 01:40:48 and the other one is out in the truck because I'm waiting on an important call I need a recipe for the holidays on how to roast weasel so somebody may be I may have to step away for a minute to take care of that we got no email waiting on a phone call breaking news
Starting point is 01:41:06 is something else broken well there's something trending right now I thought it's important what what happened the rock is trending Oh boy The Rock says people should be able to sing in movie theaters Quote
Starting point is 01:41:21 You've paid your hard-earned money for a ticket And you've gone into a musical And you're into it Sing What And a lot of people are disagreeing with this saying that If they're allowed to do that They should be allowed to vocally critique the Rock's movies out loud
Starting point is 01:41:36 At screenings first But no, that's the whole idea If I go to the concert I went to hear fucking Mick Jagger saying, not the drunk guy in row 14 behind me.
Starting point is 01:41:50 And I paid my hard-earned money. I chose not to go to this drunk guy's house and listen to him do karaoke. I chose to go see the stones. So the fat drunk guy needs to shut fuck up, doesn't he? I'm reading some of the quotes here. Then I should go to any movie
Starting point is 01:42:07 starring The Rock and shout, this is so bad every five minutes. Well, I say the Rock should shut up. the fuck up. Oh, Jesus Christ. Personally, here's another one, personally I'm just happy to see Dwayne Johnson have a controversial opinion on anything. Has he...
Starting point is 01:42:26 Another person, I think it's becoming very clear that the Rock has no clue what movie-going audiences want. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. He thinks people want some woman to stand up and start singing along with the movie. But now here's the thing, he was the the Teflon Scorpion King. for a long to everything he did. He's doing this and that and he's making money hand over fist and he's on everything and he's in everything.
Starting point is 01:42:55 It is the rock and he comes back to wrestling and goddamn over the last three years, it seems like he has committed the public relations equivalent of doing a swan dive head first off a cliff into a rock quarry. We have some more quotes here. Everybody now is just like, what the fuck? Well, here's some more feedback from the Twitter audience,
Starting point is 01:43:15 The Rock fundamentally doesn't understand musicals and also probably movies. I am 100% convinced that Dwayne Johnson's primary mission in life now is to ruin the entire concept of movies by any means necessary. Oh, Jesus. One can only assume...
Starting point is 01:43:37 He ruined air! One can also... Excuse me, one can only assume this also justifies throwing tomatoes at the screenings of the Rock's movies. Oh, damn it. Between this and the general quality of his movies and acting,
Starting point is 01:43:56 I have to believe that the Rock actually hates cinema with a passion. Here's a pretty basic one. Shut the fuck up, Dwayne. Make a good movie, then say your opinion. You think, see, I'm telling you, it's not just me. The world is starting to see through this funny.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Well, that's what I'm saying. Was it, Was it just him getting the curse of coming back to the wrestling business, or did it start with the, because I don't keep up with the, all of the DC universe, but the Black Adam movie thing that people were upset at him? And was that what started the downhill slide of public opinion of the poor rock? Well, see, the thing was he was a very hugely successful movie star,
Starting point is 01:44:43 and everyone recognized him as being a movie star, and you would see some of the stuff with him and Kevin, heart and think like, oh, look at these two guys having fun with each other. One guy. Oh, he was on my home movies when I was a kid. He was everywhere. Yeah. And then I think people started realizing everything he did in public from interviews to his own social media to everything was bullshit. Then they started realizing everything he does from media to social media to wrestling to interviews to everything is self-serving, which is why he get things like Liam I. Via being in the Hall of Fame and his daughter on the fucking NXT
Starting point is 01:45:18 show. It's all about doing what's best for him. So it's over exposure. It's too much of a good thing. We saw too much of him and started to get a good whiff. Like when you walk outside and there's the hint
Starting point is 01:45:34 of bullshit in the air, but you can't really tell which direction is coming from. You know it's there. But if you take a handful of it and you just wave it under your nose and show it That's exactly where that bullshit's coming from. So he just, too much, too much rock. So GQ, to repair everything from the stories about him having piss bottles and showing up days late to set,
Starting point is 01:45:59 the GQ article was set on a farm. The Rock's Getaway in Virginia. Swami's going nuts. I don't know what's it. Maybe the Rock has showed up. Dwayne, take a seat! The Rock is coming back for Swami. But that was that one.
Starting point is 01:46:16 How's he going to, what do you think the next one will be? Will he be on a village with a bunch of orphans that he's sponsoring? Like, what do you think the next move for public sympathy to excuse his inability to be genuine in any way or do anything that doesn't just serve him? What do you think the next move will be? What about if, okay, I'm just spitballing here now. We're at Hollywood. What about you've got an aerial shot of this mountainous terrain, heavily thwarted,
Starting point is 01:46:44 forested, dense, and you're moving in on the drone, and suddenly there is a cathedral-like structure amidst the dense foliage, and suddenly you're in farther, and you see that it is a monastery in the mountains of Tibet, and you fly right in the window, and there is Dwayne the Rock Johnson. He has decided to move there for a year and become a monk, so that they will share the secret with him of the herb that grows in their monastery that he can cure the world's cancer with. They're going to kick him out of the monastery as soon as they start finding these voss jugs filled with piss everywhere. No, they're a very forgiving order.
Starting point is 01:47:29 They're the order of the pissing monks. That's why he went there. He found something that fits his personal beliefs in life. He'll have good words with him, like the little guy with Dr. Moritz. Roll. At least that's an upgrade from Renfield. He was eating spiders last time I was talking about him. Well, like I said, breaking news, I thought I'd give it to you live as it was happening.
Starting point is 01:47:57 The Rock Trending, because his latest take on movies, beyond the fact that Red One, his awful movie that's out now that's now started to die at the box office, that'll be better if it was IMAX. It would change everyone's opinion of it. Now he thinks, people should just be able to stand up and randomly, or I guess, just sit and randomly sing. But wait a minute now. He said if it was IMAX,
Starting point is 01:48:22 it would be a better movie. So is that the cure for like the AEW pay-per-view we're about to talk about? If you just get a bigger screen, the show will be better? Is that, not just like a closer look at the fucking horse shit that I was just mentioning?
Starting point is 01:48:40 Here's a quote. With Red One, our intention was to make a movie that you can enjoy on the big screen. Legitimately, the biggest screens possible. Well, they're IMAX. I was midway through shooting Red One. I had an opportunity to go watch Oppenheimer, and I watched it in the IMAX theater
Starting point is 01:49:00 where Christopher Nolan watches and screens his movies. Him and Emma, his wife. I even, he really does remember everyone's name. I even asked, let me sit where Chris is sitting. So they said Chris sits here to enjoy the movie. movie. So I sat where Chris sat. I watched Oppenheimer. It was amazing. But I was thinking, holy shit, this thing, red one on this screen with this technology, can be game over. So he's completely either full of shit or a world-class moron.
Starting point is 01:49:35 But wait a minute. So you led with this and I droned out on some of the verbiage, but he said he was halfway shooting he was all the way working but he was halfway through shooting the movie when he went to see an IMAX movie
Starting point is 01:49:53 and said oh we ought to do that don't you have to shoot an IMAX movie for IMAX from the start isn't it like the what was the 70 millimeter in the 60s Vista Vision or whatever where you had to
Starting point is 01:50:09 do it in that format don't you help me i decided i wanted to shoot it in todd a.O so i went to where michael todd used to sit and i figured i went to the grave of elizabeth taylor and i decided to talk to her about he's full look he's and and then he came up with the idea for 3d and he could he could play ping pong or not ping pong but he could play paddle ball and have the paddle ball and the ball is coming out into the audience everyone on the set's like where is jane oh wait he's been cited at the imax movie theater alone in Christopher Nolan's seat watching Oppenheimer. Well, like I said before, that was the trending news update.
Starting point is 01:50:49 The Rock never lets you down. This is only going to get better and better with age, folks. But let's now go. How many places have the IMAX these days? Is that common out in Wartburg and Bean Station? I don't know. I don't know. I know they haven't been like New York and Los Angeles and probably Chicago.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Well, I'm sure they do. I don't know beyond that, really the reach of iMax. How far? IMAX would actually reach all the way around, wouldn't it, so it'd be the reach around. That'll be the MJF promo, like when he does a concussion gimmick or something. IMAX. Thank you. He's going to come out dressed in white robes like Caesar with the fucking,
Starting point is 01:51:33 the thing around his head with the fucking, the holly or whatever, and... IMAX. And a cat. have a cat in his arms. Anyway, speaking of a little pussy, nobody that watch this show is going to get any. I'll tell you that. I'm talking about full gear.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Full of it, I'll... Brian, besides the fact that they... I don't know if this is a new record, but it's certainly on the upper side of even what they do between the hour and a half pre-show show with the big show. and the show show that was not even so-so
Starting point is 01:52:14 this thing was five and a half hours or did I mean I actually put a a clock to it well my counter on my video as I was
Starting point is 01:52:28 progressing through this thing the uphill schlog but good God and it seemed like longer but is that the IMAX equivalent. Are they just, we're going to do the same show, but we're going to make it even as long
Starting point is 01:52:42 as possible. You know, they've always done long shows. I watched a pre-show from the beginning, so I got to see the Anna-J match in front of no one. It was really awkward. Yeah, we were the idiots this time to the people in the building. They didn't even show up for it. Well, no, it was Anna-Jay. I'm more than happy to watch.
Starting point is 01:52:58 But my point was, they've always done long shows. I think the thing about this show that really stood out after a while, especially the second half of the card, every match. went 20, felt like it went 30, and the crowd was dead the majority of it. So to me, you could do long shows if you have energy, but the crowd didn't have energy,
Starting point is 01:53:23 the matches didn't get people energized, and everything went way too long. I would have rather they had another five matches and had a few of those matches go seven minutes. At least it would have just been different faces doing the same shit. Yeah, no, seriously. I wish they just had a, you seven minute matches.
Starting point is 01:53:41 But no, because that doesn't give everyone a chance to express their art, because they have to go on and on. They just keep on going. Even though the match is blowing on and on, they just keep on going on. See, you didn't know I could
Starting point is 01:54:02 croon with the best of them too, did you? Is that what that is? That's crooning. That's crooning right there, baby. I'll have people throwing, well, they can't throw panties at the stage at me. If they're listening on their phone, you'll pull your panties off and throw them at whoever happens to be sitting around you right now. Coming soon from Arcadian Vanguard Records, Cronet Croons. Well, you know, they demand it, if they demand it. But speaking of lack of demand, so yes, this is the point I'm going to make it to start,
Starting point is 01:54:35 and we might reiterate some of it as we go on. but Brian if you've got 12 7 foot guys you don't have any giants if you've got 15 600 pound guys you've got no monsters I don't know any plainer ways to state that all of these people all of these people do all of the same things in all of their matches and the all of the booking is doing the same things over and over in the finishes and or etc and it oh I'm just I'm just I'm starting to come to a lack of how to clarify
Starting point is 01:55:22 that it's just endless because there's no the only match on this show where any of the heels worked in any way differently really the day of the baby faces it was Bobby Lashley and MJF and otherwise it's just an all-a-all-a-all-a-all-all-all-a-all-all-all- attempted murder for four hours, and I know people who say,
Starting point is 01:55:42 well, that makes it exciting. And I'm not advocating for 15-minute headlocks that these people think in the days of Dick Shick at. You know, maybe they held a headlock for 15 minutes. But you can't just do this over and over week in, week out, pay-per-view in, paper-view out, without having personalities that are over that people are interested in
Starting point is 01:56:12 that they think are cool and are stars and having them interact with each other in an interesting way passed constantly either attempting to murder somebody or imagining that you're Johnny Saint or one or the other and again in this whole thing a lot of people
Starting point is 01:56:33 was going to say well they did they did what you told them to you say all the matches are multi-man matches so they had mostly singles were they okay now instead of
Starting point is 01:56:44 seven or eight guys going to the floor and breaking furniture fighting all over the arena and trying to fucking kill each other and selling nothing you've just got two of them so that
Starting point is 01:56:54 that does kind of make it less exciting when you've set up a baseline of we're going to fucking floor this thing and blow the engine out until we hit the wall. So that's... You know, I think that's one of the reasons why,
Starting point is 01:57:12 and I'm either... I'm not trying to jump on the review if we're going to get to that right away, but, you know, the match with Big Boom AJ and Big Justice. Yes, yes. And the Rizzler. These guys were over with those fans
Starting point is 01:57:28 almost as much as any of the AEW people were. And I thought that match was fascinating, because I'm not saying it was good. But I thought it was fascinating. It was good for the room. Yes. I thought it was fascinating because you talk about everyone
Starting point is 01:57:42 working the same kind of match. Every single match on this show, everyone kicked out of everything. There were multiple matches where it was like, that's the perfect time to go to the finish and they kept going. And more people just kicked out of anything.
Starting point is 01:57:55 Again, all you need to do is lift up your arm. No matter how much you weigh, no matter what you look like. If you could do that, that's it. Just let someone kick you in a face and just lift up your arm. every minute. That's all it takes.
Starting point is 01:58:07 The Big Boom AJ match was like an indie match. It was like one of those matches on one of those Dennis shows like, you know, the principal will be in the corner or, you know, it was just something that got the place going. So I'm saying it wasn't a technical masterpiece and it was with modern pseudo-celebrities
Starting point is 01:58:24 or whatever. They've made themselves apparently a pretty big following. I don't have any familiarity with them. I don't know why cookies are involved. I don't know why the drizzle. I don't know what this whole boom thing is, but also it was their hometown.
Starting point is 01:58:39 It wasn't like they're from, you know, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, and they showed up in Newark and were over like crazy. That's their home area, and they got their people to come. I don't know how much of its home area, though, because I think they live in Florida, even though they're from Jersey originally,
Starting point is 01:58:58 but South Jersey. Well, I think they had one of the noted Jersey press agents and publicity mongers up there in their corner, I'll tell you that. But no, the point being, they had a match. I wrote down, it's a county fair match. It's basic, and it's like you said, if the high school principal or the local sponsor was either in the corner or in the match or you were, I got visions of Lawler working with radio DJs, right?
Starting point is 01:59:33 and it worked because people went there to see this guy and it's, I don't know how old he is, they said he wrestled 25 years ago. Well, God damn. He's got to be in his early 50s. Even then, you know, then he didn't, he looks, the thing is, he was bigger
Starting point is 01:59:49 than most of the guys on the fucking AW roster. And it was basic shit, and he hadn't been in the ring in 20 years, but goddamn he didn't, he didn't offend anybody with either his appearance or his, but I mean the kid doing this I'm never going to go on record
Starting point is 02:00:08 as saying 12 year olds ought to be doing the spear even if he does have considerable fucking ballast behind it yeah even if he's bigger than half the roster you have the kid yeah yes and but but anyway otherwise
Starting point is 02:00:25 the people like this and I think they they liked Osprey and what else did they like? Well, we'll go as we go through it. But that match got the room, though, and you know what? It should have been on the main show. If this guy's such a social media celebrity and he got them a bunch of publicity and was able to walk into various places and get on TV to get publicity for this show,
Starting point is 02:00:50 why wasn't this on the main card? That's, I don't. Because we'll get to this also, but one of the matches on the card, they had, they should have had that. match on TV and then did what they did on TV on pay-per-view maybe I don't fucking know but in a lot of cases they will fall into something and then back up on it I don't know if 600,000 people watch the watch the Wednesday night program these days and they're probably selling what now is it a hundred thousand pay-per-views old bleacher report went out of
Starting point is 02:01:31 business or whatever happened there? According to AEW, again, we've never had any concrete pay-per-view numbers, and I have reason to think they've maybe been inflated at times. Well, many have come from Uncle Dave himself. And he doesn't have concrete now. Again, even Dave says, you know, he gets estimates from... Well, no, he has sources that he believes highly. They give him estimates. They don't give him, like, this is the exact number.
Starting point is 02:01:55 I'm trying to be sarcastic, though. He has sources. He can believe his sources that tell him how great his sources are, but go ahead. I have something controversial to say. based on watching this pay-per-view event and seeing the card and knowing the roster and the sorry state of things
Starting point is 02:02:10 and also knowing that you need to do things different and sometimes you need energy on these shows. You can't just have fans sitting there or you can hear everyone farting because everyone's so quiet I think give Big Boom A.J. A.J. a Tim Storm-style run at the AEW championship
Starting point is 02:02:26 and let him go over Moxley. Let that be the end of the Moxley shit. Who would have thought that was coming? Moxley gets speared by a 12-year-old and his dad pins him and then you get him on TV everywhere and then he could drop the belt to Bobby Lashley at some point or something but it'll tell a story that people will get behind Hold on people say I never admit it when I make a mistake Well I'm gonna admit it right now I am gonna go on record
Starting point is 02:02:50 As supporting a 12-year-old spear and a fucking guy If it's Moxley and his dad beats him I'll go for that That's the way you can get around too No one could beat up Marina Shafir What if it's a kid what if the kid tackles Marina Shapiro? That's true because okay
Starting point is 02:03:05 a kid fucking underage child of either gender trumps a fucking hitting a female that's an adult. Right. Because the rules at wrestling are that the heel manager is the weakest
Starting point is 02:03:21 of all and then a baby face manager is still not as strong as a heel wrestler but he's goddamn better than a heel manager and on and on. So if a child of either gender attacks an adult woman, it's okay. If Big Justice saw that Marina Shafir was about to hit his dad with a briefcase or something, and he just ran there and speared her or hit her in the head with a chair, he's a kid,
Starting point is 02:03:48 you get away with it until you show some facial hair, then you're fucked, then it's like, no, he looks old enough. You know, if they could special affect it to where when he went to spear her, His head just went straight up between her legs and the rest of his body's sticking out and she's like a fucking hoisted on his pittard right there. That would be fucking hilarious. And then they'd have to call AAA to pull him out of
Starting point is 02:04:18 because of the suction. The kids as big as Marina and PAC, so then you just have to worry about Claudio. But again, I'm all for it. Get the belt off moxie. I think at that point, Claudio just go home. It's about time. the belt off Moxley, none of this is working.
Starting point is 02:04:33 Nobody likes the way this is going except one person. And put it on Big Boom AJ and get on Fox News and get on Channel 5 news and get on Twitter and pick pack, TikTok and everything else. Get everywhere with that. That will get you a different kind of thing as opposed to, hey, it's the WWE's other company. It's the other WWE. It's the lesser WWE.
Starting point is 02:04:58 You don't want that. Well, I'll tell you, I don't, here's another question I want to ask. Since we're on the celebrity train, get on board the celebrity train. They're in Newark, New Jersey. I mean, a Hollywood elite or flocking to Newark there. At least they had eventually, not when the countdown show started, but eventually they had a decent crowd for them these days. So they could actually do a wide shot once in a while. I think they were over 10,000.
Starting point is 02:05:27 It was probably their best show domestically in a very very much. long time. They did a really good job, actually. Yeah, well, and also, it's a pay-per-view and a metropolitan area of what, what is that up there now, Brian? You're technically almost in it. About 12 million people. There's a lot of people up here, but I think the most impressive thing was the last week. I think when we did the preview, there was only like 6,000 tickets distributed and it ended up being a lot more than that. So that's a pretty good walk-up. They usually, I guess that's something they've done before in the New York market because they've done that with Grand Slam, didn't they? We're One year there was a big boom AJ.
Starting point is 02:06:02 Big boom AJ. You know, here's what the thing is, though, in all honesty. And this kind of is on a bigger scale for a national show like this, but the same thing happening in the territories. When it's hot, people want to buy advanced tickets because they don't want to end up. I mean, I went to Cincinnati one time to see Mid-Atlantic wrestling one time. It was their debut in the fucking market, right? Cincinnati Gardens.
Starting point is 02:06:32 And I had seen what Jared had done when he tried to go in there a year beforehand, and we just drove on up, so we'll get a ticket at the fucking door. And there was 8,500 people there. We got a ticket up in the goddamn nosebleed section.
Starting point is 02:06:50 But when people know when it's cooled off and if they're not drawing, they can wait until the last couple days, make sure they want to go decide they want to go. Also, they can buy, in a lot of cases, general admission ticket, and if it's not such a great house, they can wander down into the better seats, and nobody's going to fuck with them. That type of thing happens also. But then if it's something that they end up wanting to go to, you get a bigger walk-up.
Starting point is 02:07:20 But remember, we've been talking about that. The advanced sale for the territory days used to be 25 or 30% of what your house would be whereas now it's like fucking 90% or whatever Anyway but speaking of while we're still in Hollywood Who is Paul Walterhausen I've seen his name In reports on wrestling Actor or TV star or however they describe him
Starting point is 02:07:54 Paul Walter Hauser I never do what he looked like and now that I know what he looks like, what the fuck has he been on to be famous? He was in one of the seasons of karate, or a karate kid, Cobra Kai, but he was like the worst character on that show and they didn't bring him back. And I think it was he played Richard Jewell in that movie they made about the Olympic bombing in Atlanta. Oh, well, yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:08:19 I actually would know of what a picture of the actual Richard Jewel would look like. But I'd never seen this fucking guy. Well, and then other than that, we've heard that he's a big wrestling fan. He's appeared on AEW before. I think he's, if not pro wrestling guerrilla, one of the Southern California indies, he's a, he's a regular there. And that's obviously, you know, what he was dressing to here was dressing to going to these shows. But, you know, AEW embracing celebrity. I mean, that's something WWE does.
Starting point is 02:08:49 Okay, but how are we defining? Wait a minute. Celebrity. Hold on. American Heritage Dictionary. Let me just see how we're. we're defining celebrity these days. Because
Starting point is 02:09:01 I think Big Boom, AJ's a bigger celebrity than this guy, he's supposed to have been on fucking television. I think so too, and actually that's part of the thing. I think social media, there's more people that are celebrities
Starting point is 02:09:13 now amongst podcasters and just social media content creators than actual movie stars and TV stars because who watches fucking TV and stuff. Well, I watch TV, but at the same time, I don't keep track of every goddamn person that's played every bit role
Starting point is 02:09:29 and underneath part on every television show ever. Hold on here. I was looking up celebrity. Celebrate. I have to figure that out later. Ceaseless. Celery. Celebrated.
Starting point is 02:09:46 Celebrate. Celebrity. A famous person. Or renown. Fame. I don't know that some of these people fit Celebrity nevertheless We'll move on
Starting point is 02:10:03 It's a lower bar to fucking limbo under than He certainly added a lot Only if there was a weight limit on the fucking podium there Anyway The aforementioned Anna J match I started to say Anna Sky She was Joe and Bill's daughter
Starting point is 02:10:24 Anna Sky Anna J wrestled Deanna Parazo who we just said have we seen her in like six months and boom like monkeys they jump on our commands
Starting point is 02:10:37 when they they oh they got we got to book Deanna now did you watch the match you watched the match because of Anna J did you see the phantom bump
Starting point is 02:10:47 they weren't in Lewiston Maine but goddamn this is the answer to the phantom punch yeah I saw everything again I watched it I'm not saying it was a technical classic or technically sound or very good
Starting point is 02:11:00 or technically there no I didn't watch the rest of it I don't know but I couldn't reach I had something in my hand possibly petting Harley I could reach the remote in time about 30 seconds in they were doing a spot where
Starting point is 02:11:17 apparently AJ just forgot to hit her and Deanna Parazzo just fucking went down. And Anna J was looking like, oh shit, should I have done something? She just ran up to her and boom. She went out.
Starting point is 02:11:32 I was like, what the fuck? I watched it in slow motion. There was no contact of anything. There was no blow thrown or attempted. It was just like she just kind of ran toward her and fooom. And then I moved along.
Starting point is 02:11:49 Who won that contest? Do you remember? The right cheek or the left cheek? You know, I actually don't remember who won. They had a Taya Valkyrie at ringside. She's now... Was that who that was? She's apparently aligned with Deanna Paraza.
Starting point is 02:12:04 Yeah, that was Taya Valkyrie. Well, she changed her hair and her... Completely different look. Everything. I did not know that was her. Well... Son of a gun. Those fans weren't there yet, so they missed it, too, but...
Starting point is 02:12:16 Well, they also... Go ahead. Anna Jays just... Yeah. You know, sometimes you just see someone You know, like, that person needs the runoff to the south of France with me for like two weeks. Moving on. So we had a four-way match where a Martin brother, I can't remember which one he is.
Starting point is 02:12:37 Dante. It was Dante. Ristled Rigor Mortis against Commander against Buddy Matthews. Again, they expect people to take Buddy Matthews seriously in this heel. group that they have going on that is now has, what are they, the House of the Kings of the Black throne of people? Well, no, they're the House of Black, but the Kings of the Black throne are a subsect of the house.
Starting point is 02:13:05 A subsidy, a wholly owned subsidiary? The point is, why is Buddy Matthews in a four-way with job guys on a pre-show? And again, look at the athlete he is, and the way he can work, He's got a shitty fucking name that I would change in a heartbeat when I found him some kind of gimmick where you could present him as a people,
Starting point is 02:13:31 somebody would go out and fucking break people's necks for a daily habit and get him away from his supernatural mumbo-jumbo, hocus, that Malachi Boring has thrust everybody in. But they had that match. And then they had the aforementioned, and we've talked a bit about it, but we've got to provide some details. The big A.J., Big Boomer fellow,
Starting point is 02:14:02 Big Boom A.J. and Big Justice. And they brought out, Paul White still works there. And bless him for it. What are they having him do? What is he allowed to do? Why have we not seen him in what two years? Does he do something on another? is he on Rampage?
Starting point is 02:14:25 He was on one of the internet shows, I think, when they had those. He was better on commentary than all the regular commentators. Well, yeah, well, because their regular commentators are not actually regular commentators. They're on, they're, not an up-to-the-median standard,
Starting point is 02:14:41 but, you know, so they brought him out to do the color on the Costco match, and I don't know, how, the, the, the, The drizzler, what is the risler? The Rizzler?
Starting point is 02:14:57 What is the gimmick of the... I mean, he's another one of the, the member of the family, but why is he the Rizzler? I'm not exactly sure, but give him credit, he stayed in complete gimmick the whole time. Well, yes, he's carefully... You know, he's invested in his care. He's gone to the Method acting school.
Starting point is 02:15:13 I think he's doing some Strasbourg there. But so A.J. Boomer brought the boom, and at the start, the big show was there so that he could back QT down when QT went to menace the Rizzler. And, I mean, they had a basic spot show territory wrestling match where the chances of the guy who hasn't wrestled in 20 years, and then, obviously,
Starting point is 02:15:50 not at a worldwide level. Wouldn't go fuck anything up so people either shit on it or didn't feel good for him because they were predisposed to like him. And the heel tries to guide the ship and become the foil for the people to laugh at him and more or less.
Starting point is 02:16:11 And besides the kid getting to do a spear on a grown man, I'd have even taken a kick in the balls. Maybe QT didn't evolve. volunteer for that fucking chunky little son bitch to kick him in the balls. But otherwise, in that, that's what they did. They had a basic match and the fucking baby face power bombed him, one, two, three. And they could, again, they got a reaction not only because of who was in it and they were, you know, wanting to like the guy, but also because nobody really fucked anything up and was embarrassing or, you know,
Starting point is 02:16:50 You know, it took a phantom bump that I saw. I didn't watch it like the Zapruder film, but I think they at least tried to halfway swing at the guy when he fell down. Brian, did I miss any invisible man tactics? I mean, AJ threw better punches than half the roster. Yeah, and again, the bars, though, but there you are, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:12 You know, again, this goes back to that argument for years about what is good wrestling, and you would go to some of these indie shows here in New Jersey. And, you know, for a long time, you didn't get, if you got, like, one match with one high flyer, you were lucky. You know, Devin Storm stood out immediately on those Dennis shows because he was, like, trying to do crazy shit that he couldn't even do yet. I saw him doing Osai Moonsol land on his head. He wasn't right, but he was trying it.
Starting point is 02:17:38 But you got a lot of matches similar to this that, like I said about the Anna-J match, not a technical classic, but the difference is you get the room into it. everyone there seemed to be as invested in the finish of this as in the finish of any other match on the show, which is insane. But it says something, too. It wasn't just a celebrity. It was the kind of match they tried to do. Yeah, it's the people involved.
Starting point is 02:18:12 You know, if you say, hey, we're going to have a fucking show on Saturday night where Joe Bob Smith and Billy Bob Briggs are going to beat each other with light tubes. You could hold it in a fucking basement. But if you say we're going to have a show at this goddamn giant building where the Rock and Connor McGregor
Starting point is 02:18:38 are going to fucking trade insults with each other, you probably sell 10,000 fucking tickets. And I'm not, and I'm not. try to put the rock over. But you know what I'm saying? It's who the people are and whether they're good, have a reputation for being somewhat good in that field. And they're over.
Starting point is 02:18:59 People know them and they're stars. And they have an issue. Instead of just endless, indie-rific shit, instead of a rec center or a high school gym, it's in a goddamn major building because somebody wanted to spend a quarter of a billion
Starting point is 02:19:20 fucking dollars on it. But this is the reason why that they're contracting an audience, whether they're expanding financially with money to people will pay them to fart in church. That's one thing. But whether they're getting
Starting point is 02:19:38 an audience to watch and come and see and whatever and making stars and celebrities out of their guys and their talent and no because it's just over and over over and over anyway we'll move on to the pay-per-view Big Boom AJ and Big Justice and the Rizzler
Starting point is 02:19:59 Yes is now the time to hold Tony up for more money and say if not I'm calling Nick Com he sees what we do I think there may be a ceiling to the celebrity level of of A.A.W? Of A, well of
Starting point is 02:20:17 WWE that they might want big boom and the cast to fill out a few more applications before they get to that point. I don't know. You know, that is one of the things that's interesting to think about. WWE has embraced a lot of social media celebrities. They've embraced celebrities we've never heard. Remember sexy red? Apparently she has a following.
Starting point is 02:20:37 They've actually, under Paul Leveck, it seems like they've tried, or under, I don't know if that's actually a Paul of that call, but they've tried to incorporate any celebrity or pseudo-celebrity they can. Well, then maybe there might be a bidding war for the boom war. War for the boom. To what I said earlier, do you think this match should have been on the main pay-per-view show, considering the interest and the attention from the fans?
Starting point is 02:21:05 Yes, especially if they were going to do it, why wouldn't you fucking do it? It's not even, like you said, for the local market, they put these guys on national TV on dynamite and said, we're going to have this match at this thing. So it's not like they were trying to hide it and just do it in Newark and nobody else would know about it. So,
Starting point is 02:21:25 I... Yeah, that's what's weird about it. It would have been different than everything on the main show. And you would have seen people jumping up and down a little bit. Well, that was the big match on the pre-show. And then we went right into a world tag team championship four-way match. And,
Starting point is 02:21:48 all right, a bit, hold on, they had the entrances on the pre-show, so again, shorting the people
Starting point is 02:21:55 who just tuned in to see what they paid for. But it was the House of the Black Throne Kings, the outrunners, the acclaimed and private party who got strippers
Starting point is 02:22:06 for, for dancers. They didn't take it, they'd already take it almost everything off. They didn't take anything off on camera. What do you call it
Starting point is 02:22:15 when you go out there a semi-buck-n- it anyway. You're not a stripper. Are you a fucking exhibitionist? You're asking me, what do you call that in-between thing between being a stripper? I don't know what you're saying. They've just got way too little on to be appropriate in public where children are present, but at the same time they're not really taking anything off because they're already there. So they can't be a stripper. let us know cult of Quartet members what the term would be
Starting point is 02:22:49 and send photos and send so that we get an idea of visual representation of what but anyway so now are they doing something where Castor is turning on Bowens or are they just really mad at each other what is happening here it seemed to be that I mean from the very beginning he threw the microphone at him and then there were a few moments in the match.
Starting point is 02:23:13 Bowens is on TV all the time again because those PC Richards commercials he filmed a few years ago or airing again for the holidays and it ends with Bowens crossing his arms and smiling for like five seconds. So he's all over New York TV. And it appears to be that they are doing that.
Starting point is 02:23:30 And you know what? It's probably time to do that. If you're going to do anything else with Max Caster, let alone Anthony Bowens, you've got to do it. You're running out of time. Well, he did his rap but instead of the everybody loves the best
Starting point is 02:23:44 or everybody loves the acclaimed he said everybody loves the best wrestler alive and then he didn't just pitch the microphone at Bowens he side-armed it like he wouldn't fucking stick it down his throat and I'm like what the fuck and if they're working they did a good job because it almost looked like they'd had an argument before they went out there and he's there motherfucker boom so they did a good job
Starting point is 02:24:08 or maybe next week they'll be happy on TV and I was right. They just got pissed at each. But anyway, private party beat Castor in about 20 minutes. That's really, because we got a lot of ground to cover and it's a four-way tag team match
Starting point is 02:24:33 and that's the way they start to show off. Well, they actually started the introductions that a match before the show. The pre-show got the entrance. The entrances, yes. So that's why I said to some of the people who just watched the pay-per-view didn't get all that they paid for because they put the...
Starting point is 02:24:48 Oh, I never even made my fucking point earlier. You just distractified me, you son of a gun. If 600,000 people are watching the Wednesday night TV and there are 100,000 people are buying a pay-per-view, how many people are watching the hour and a half before the pay-per-view? One would think significantly less. unless you, you know, sit there for another hour and a half
Starting point is 02:25:15 and I have to go in and record, when I buy the pay-per-view, I have to record earlier stuff also without, or instead of, if I'm DVRing the pay-per-view to get the pre-show, I have to back up and purposely record that also. So the point is it's the smallest viewership that they put Big Boom AJ and the crew on and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 02:25:46 I should have made that point then. Yeah, you have to wonder how many people tuned in thinking that match. If they got anybody who wasn't a normal AEW pay-per-view buyer, and I don't know that they do. But if they do, if this generated some interest, how many realized that it wasn't actually on the pay-per-views on the free trip? Well, yeah. On Wednesday night, they said, yeah, he's got it full gear.
Starting point is 02:26:04 So 30 people in Des Moines, because they've got a big Costco enclave there, they buy the pay-per-view and they missed it. And they opt 50 bucks because they put it. Anyhow, I have realized what listening to Pockets try to do a wrestling promo sounds like. What's that? It's like listening to an insurance salesman talking about the new medical plan they want to fucking sell you. you just tune it out because it's
Starting point is 02:26:39 coming from that face and with no sincerity which is allegedly part of his gimmick that five years in has never been explained justified whatever description you want to give and this was the guy that's in the main event for the world title if you are a a WWE fan and as we've said there's more of them
Starting point is 02:27:05 numerically, statistically, empirically provable, or if you're a fan of any kind of wrestling in the past 50 years and you look at some of these what the fuck is this bullshit and you wouldn't give it a chance and I just
Starting point is 02:27:27 I don't know what they're thinking did you notice what our boy MJF did again this time what he did again this time what do you mean yes he got in and got out before he got any on yeah usually i mean a few times he's been in the opening match he got what the second match here for the man yeah well because he knew that at least nothing was going to register out of the four way but uh you know that got him in their seats and everything but he doesn't go on eighth after everybody's taking chainsaws to people because he is the
Starting point is 02:28:07 he's the star of the show in the ring and I'm not talking about how he's being used and he's the only one that really works differently than everybody else and kind of gets you up because he makes you think about what you're looking at so he goes in early before the indie Riffick bunch
Starting point is 02:28:31 kills the crowd by you know breaking up enough furniture to have a bonfire. And then the problem is he's wrestling Roddy, but as we've now come to find out, even as badly as Roderick Strong has been
Starting point is 02:28:47 maliciously booked since he's been there, because Adam Cole just fell apart. The people like Roddy better now than they like Adam. And Roddy can outperform him. And they don't like Roddy.
Starting point is 02:29:04 And they don't like Roddy. they don't really like Roddy, but they got into this. Because MJF, everybody else is out there trying to hit a couple notes on a goddamn, you know, piano. But MJF is in the back playing a cello or a violin where he hits the subtle notes. And he knows how to get the most out of shit without killing himself. Because he's, he knows out of work. and Roddy obviously can't
Starting point is 02:29:39 manage him or manage him, match him in a cunning linguist category for the promos but Roddy can work seriously and lay shit in and his physical and a blah blah blah he just needs a direction of where he's supposed to be
Starting point is 02:29:57 what he's supposed to be doing when he's being booked somehow which this has just all been nonsense but nevertheless, I think I said beforehand, I was probably going to like this match just as a match better than anything else and pretty much did. It may have, again, did they need the last four or five minutes,
Starting point is 02:30:24 or I don't mean the last four or five minutes, take that out, I mean, just shorten it up where they got to the meat of the matter and got to finish in four or five less minutes, but again, MJF is the only different guy with the attitude, the facials, the tactics. He sells like a heel, and his offense works like a heel. And the match made sense in terms of, you know,
Starting point is 02:30:51 again, nobody kicked out of that I saw of a tombstone pile driver onto the, you know, landmine left there in World War II. And Roddy at some points, you know, he's laying his shit in, MJF. His shit looks good and he doesn't spam it, as the kids say. And then finally, the only thing I didn't understand was the finish, and I will illustrate it, Brian, and you tell me what I missed.
Starting point is 02:31:22 Roddy's making his comeback, blah, blah, blah, he's hit a couple of big moves. He's hit the big kick. And MJF, boom, took a bump on the one move, bump on the other move, bump on the kick, and then Roddy goes for a suplex and MGAF just picked him up and brainbustered him after he'd been hit with these three fucking things and then when they both sold the brain buster then Roddy's the one that rolled over
Starting point is 02:31:50 and got his arm over the top of him, got a two count. And he's the one that just got brain bustered. And then as he put the arm on him and got the two count, MJF grabbed Roddy's arm and rolled over and got the arm bar and made him tap right there. So what was I missing about the continuity of that sequence of events?
Starting point is 02:32:13 I'm not sure. It really came out of nowhere. I know MJF won matches like I had nowhere in the past with like a nut shot or something, but this was pretty quick and it just happened. And it was different than the other matches on the show that just went nonstop, finish after finish, but it seemed to rather abrupt.
Starting point is 02:32:29 They were building something there, but I'm not saying that it's not a good finish. that if Roddy had had him covered with one arm for him to kick out and get the arm, I'm saying that MJF is the one to just brain-bustered Roddy after MJF had been hit with three big things, and then Roddy's the one that rolled over and covered. So something happened there. Anyway, then MJF, of course, because he just made the guy tap out, he wants to break his arm. So he goes against a chair and he puts Roddy's hand in the chair and he stomps it.
Starting point is 02:33:10 And then Adam Cole's music plays. But here comes Adam Cole, Kyle O'Reilly, Matt Taven and Mike Bennett. And they hit the ring. So MJF runs off through the crowd. And I was wondering why, because O'Reilly already told everybody that MJF were just going to kill them. He's going to fuck with him. He's going to kick that shit out of all of us. but he took off
Starting point is 02:33:33 and then Kyle O'Reilly is pissed off and he shoves Adam cold down on his ass and he's it's your fault I told you this is what going to happen he's going to hurt this guy he's going to fuck all of us up
Starting point is 02:33:48 is this a revolutionary new strategy to get a heel over by having the baby faces fight amongst themselves about quit fucking with this guy or is this a revolutionary way to end the MJF Adam Cole feud, it just ends because the other guy's mad that it's happening.
Starting point is 02:34:07 But I mean, what is our, is it now, is Kyle going to join with MJM because these numb nuts is over here won't listen to him and then we're going to have tag team matches, play you, but with, with who, with Cole and pick one of these other fucking sorry losers. MJF has to be unglued from all of this quickly I think somebody's sniffing the glue
Starting point is 02:34:36 and by the way I'll say because I noticed it with MJF although that's part of his gimmick I think because it's been going on from the beginning but Roddy Adam Cole everyone on this show pre-shed everything who does the spray tans for AEW because they probably need to be fired everyone's orange or yellow
Starting point is 02:34:58 I know the Simpsons character look, or, and make the fucking guys pull their knee pads down. It may happen in the match. Oh, but I'm just, can you imagine dusty roads? Be telling Nikita Koloff and Barry Windham and the Road Warriors, hey, let's not fuck with that fucking flare. He's going to kick his shit out of all of us. Well, you know what was up next, Brian,
Starting point is 02:35:25 the long-awaited women's championship, or one of the women's title. What title does Mercedes-Mone have that she was putting up against Chris Statlander? It's the TBS title. I believe so. I believe TBS and New Japan Women Strong. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:35:41 Is it Women Strong or Strong Women's? Strong women. Well, it ought to be strong women. You don't want to put it on any weak women. That's not what I was saying. So, you know, these weak women are a big problem in the world today. speaking of weak women,
Starting point is 02:35:59 Camille has been told to watch from the back. Just what the fuck is? Is she really hurt? Or do they think this is going to make her a big baby face? Well, they're sadly mistaken, but even if she was really hurt, you wouldn't do this, but if she's not hurt and she just got the sling on,
Starting point is 02:36:21 I... Huh. Ha! Anyway, as a matter of there was a sign in the match early on, free Camille across from the hard camera. Because we'd rather see her than Mercedes-Mud. This is the only person on this roster that I get the opinion that even the AEW fans are booing her,
Starting point is 02:36:47 not because they know she's a heel and they're supposed to and they like that, but that they're booing her legitimately with some emotion, like, we don't want to see you, please don't talk anymore. Is that the way it comes off to you, or is she just doing, when they do make any reaction at all, is this revolutionary heel work or just, oh, fuck, no, not you again? I think that's been the general reaction. This night was a little different because I think the match won over the room a little bit by the end.
Starting point is 02:37:21 So for a moment, they got past the, we don't want to see Mercedes-Money, but she did the match that everyone else did on the show. You kick out of every single thing that looks like it would have killed you. And it worked for that room. So I think, so I think for a little period of time there, they put away their Mercedes-Mone sickness
Starting point is 02:37:40 because they enjoyed the match. Well, I was talking about when she came out and first interacted with people anyway, but the match was, as these things go for Mercedes, better than normal, you know why? it's the fucking Linda Miles principle in reverse
Starting point is 02:38:00 in that remember I always told Linda Miles was not only so awkward and green but she was so big that the other girls couldn't move her around well this is the opposite Statlander for all of the gimmick changes she's gone through
Starting point is 02:38:19 and you know she disappears and reappears and they do this and that and the other thing we don't know what the fuck's going on She turned baby face with no explanation. Got rid of her manager with no explanation. Things just happen and we're not clued in on it. But the point is, she's pretty good and she's big enough to move Mercedes around. And to fucking sometimes get in the right place or put her in the right place.
Starting point is 02:38:44 And the thing I didn't like about to match is, again, we know Mercedes is going to win, or at least we were pretty sure. and wouldn't you know who won a pony? But Stadlender, to try to make her, they cut her off too quick, Mercedes worked with her like they were equal size, and they were just doing moves back and forth, and because Mercedes doesn't probably know how, she'd never been in any real wrestling environment,
Starting point is 02:39:16 how a little chicken shit heel like her should work with a big baby face. and again with Mercedes going over Stadlander should have had quite a bit of the match but instead they kind of did the deal that a lot of the indie wrestlers talk themselves into well I'll just I'll give you everything and you I still won't beat you and that'll make you so strong
Starting point is 02:39:41 well it just makes a whole fucking match phony but also you see what I'm saying I think Stantlander should have had a little more of the match. Again, Mercedes overacts horribly at the two counts with the screaming and the gripping of her. She's flipping her wig almost, is what she's doing.
Starting point is 02:40:04 Why doesn't a baby face use the wig as a weapon? We know now she's wearing a wig. Just go for the wig. Every move should just be like, I'm going to get you in a headlock because I'm going to rip this fucking thing off your head. See, man, well, and pulling hair is illegal, but if it's fake hair,
Starting point is 02:40:20 Yeah, how does that work in terms of the rules? Is a wig covered under the don't pull hair rule? Well, but then all it would be covered under the, you cannot pull tight's rule, because the pull tights rule is also any part of the opponent's apparel cannot be pulled in such a fashion. You know, this match is one of the times on this show where I felt like they almost had a moment
Starting point is 02:40:43 where they have, if they had done something different than what they did, the fans would have gone ape shit. Yeah. And the fans, again, it wasn't the booking, the fans were ready to go crazy for Statlander if she won. Obviously, she didn't, but it seemed like the fans got, it seemed like the longer it went, the more fans thought that in the room that maybe Statlander was going to win.
Starting point is 02:41:07 Maybe. And as a matter of fact, I swear to God, I'm just looking at the notes I made, more kickouts. If Mercedes worked the bad legs, splashed the knee, and got a two count. sure what the fuck was going on there, but then I wrote, fans are hoping Statlander will win. And again, it's, you know, you can't say this crowd is straight baby face and heel,
Starting point is 02:41:31 they just like Stantlander better. But then after all of that, you know, Mercedes again did all kinds of things, meteoros and the like, and all that fancy stuff. And then Stantlander picks her up for a tombstone. and Mercedes bites her leg to get out of it, which is kind of cool, but she goes over backwards and picks her up
Starting point is 02:41:57 or does some kind of flip or whatever. The point is, she threw Stantlander into the second rope, throat first in name only, in description only, really, and then covered her awkwardly, one, two, three. They're jumping up after fucking top rope
Starting point is 02:42:18 goddamn have a coronas and all these major moves and this little bitty not only the little bitty girl that is reversing around Stadlander's tombstones and shit but then this little tuck into the ropes and a fucking awkward cover I was like it maybe it worked in rehearsal do you think it could have been something else you know I'm not exactly sure when she was throat first, that was a bit unique. And then again, boom, right to the finish. But she went in with the force of a
Starting point is 02:42:55 granny driving to church on Sunday. Coming off of what they had done before. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the other thing. They just did that flash finish with MJF. And then all of a sudden right here, you know, it was a night of the heels winning. It was a night of AWSA,
Starting point is 02:43:16 fuck you to the Northeast fans. And the heels won other than Big Boom AJ. Well, but not. Actually, it depends on who you think the heels are. Because have we determined that? Because the next match. Light switch Jay White and Hangnail Adam Page. You know who's the heel in this match?
Starting point is 02:43:35 The Timekeeper. Why wasn't this a 10-minute match? Why did this have to go as long as it went? Oh, good. 20 fucking minutes. Well, no, more than 20 minutes. but it was any match on the card less interesting to people to begin with I can't remember why Jay White is a baby face after he was a heel for so long and then
Starting point is 02:44:04 gone and then he was hurt and juice was hurt and then this match again was it falls count anywhere was it no disqualification Was it lazy booking? What was it? They just went out on the floor and fought in the entranceway and on the floor for minutes and weren't counted out. And it just went on and on with moves back and forth. And people were kind of staring, except when, again, if somebody chops, they get to woo, they like that.
Starting point is 02:44:42 and then after really just having a match for a long time they countered each other's finishes back and forth a time or two into j whites and j white beating one two three so which got a good pop which got a good pop well yeah because they're they didn't expect it and it came after just boring i mean it was the quietest match you're not even really i mean there were times at home it was really quiet. You're sometimes with people in the reading, they're like, oh, the fans are really into everything. I mean, they were dead silent, but at least they came up for the finish, I guess. But again, you know, when the matches start getting so repetitive, but, you know, it's like
Starting point is 02:45:32 would it make the, a lot of people are going to say, well, when they have up and down the match or up and down the card, matches where they fight on the floor forever, the referee just stares, they use objects, people come in, even if it's not, no disqualification, but then they'll just make it no DQ and there's no rules in this match, no rules in that match. They're making it more exciting.
Starting point is 02:45:55 Okay, what about if in the NBA finals, Brian, or maybe even the March Madness, the NCAA, the inbound pass, when the guy catches it, he doesn't have to dribble. He can just tuck it under his arm and just run down the court. And he doesn't have to dribble. That'd make it more excited. What about if everybody else trying to stop him instead of guarding him or trying to draw a charge,
Starting point is 02:46:26 they could just fucking drag him down and tackle him. That would make it more exciting. And then, you know, what about if his teammates were allowed to block for him? That would make basketball much more exciting, wouldn't it? but that's not how you play that fucking game so if to have any anything register that is out outside the norm you have to have a norm to have any heel cheat and get heat for it you have to have rules for him to break to have anybody get over by doing a specific outrageous thing such as bleeding or fighting on the floor or whatever the case, you can't have everybody doing it in every fucking match. And I mean to the point where how many matches have we seen lately
Starting point is 02:47:22 where there's multiple tables broken in the same match and then more tables broken in matches after that. Then that's the norm. And the norm is that just everything happens all the time. And then you tune it out. So anyway, that's And I thought that Page's stock has fallen here possibly Because does anybody think that Jay White at this point is ever going to mean anything here
Starting point is 02:47:54 That ship has sailed if it was going to happen to begin with I mean it'll mean more than You know the legless boy or whatever the fuck But I mean anything in the way of actually moving needle drawing money getting ratings that ship has sailed long time ago because he's not new anymore but now Page is doing a job for him I'm wondering if hang nail and but
Starting point is 02:48:20 now later on is he is he switching baby face again this anti-social cowboy let's save the end stuff to the end because I don't completely understand and I don't think they do either whatever they were trying to do so there's a lot to break down there but by the time that we get to it it may have changed again is what you're saying
Starting point is 02:48:39 But, you know, this was in the middle, you know, of when that streak started with the Mercedes-Money match, every match was like 20 minutes at least. Yes. Other than the Lashley match, every match went 20 minutes, but to me, this one felt a lot longer. Because of how quiet it got and just what they were doing, it felt like it took forever to get to the finish. All I kept thinking was, what would I do if I went to a show like this? And I was like, would I be able to hold up a sign that said go home or would they take it
Starting point is 02:49:09 from me. I would just constantly hold up. Go home. Go home. Or the other way the boys used to say it, it's Miller time. Anyway, oh, and then Adam Page left. No, what did he do? No, that's Jay White left, and then Paige went and leveled him on the ramp, and then Chris Daniels came out be like, why you want to do that to that guy? And then he knocked out Christopher Daniels. So that'll be at least a fine, according to Sockface, to knock out the fuck.
Starting point is 02:49:51 Remember when Chris Daniels was the voice of the voiceless or the homeless or Tony Kahn? I don't know what he was. He was Tony Kahn's guy that was going to make all the rulings until the next week. never did it again. And again, Chuck Taylor just got taken out by Moxley. Not Chuck Taylor, the wrestler. We were told it was Chuck Taylor the backstage producer. Yes. And now, the almost a general manager doesn't really do anything. Roll on the show, he gets taken out.
Starting point is 02:50:25 It's just, there's like no reason for any of the chaos that happens. Wrestling needs chaos at times, but that's to be reason for it. On this show, there's no reason. Yes. And it, and it, happens intermittently, not constantly. But there's going to be repercussions over that. All right, let's get to the big one coming up next between Will Osprey and Kyle Felcher. And why does Don Fallis never manage? He comes down to this guy and he goes, well, no, come,
Starting point is 02:50:59 he's watched enough TV. He's been around me. And there's plenty of people on that roster to watch a lot of wrestling. Look at how they are in the ring. Well, but nevertheless, he's old enough. He could have figured it out. No, he goes to color, and there's already three guys over there, but he's not actively involved when his man has a match of any kind,
Starting point is 02:51:19 which to me diminishes the importance of it, because I would only go over and do color when my guys were fighting job guys, and I'd make mockery of them. But nevertheless, I know their wardrobe budget must be, be endless also, but is Kyle's new wearing apparel, including wearing a crown? Is that from somebody in a video game? What video game is that from? I have no idea. Because I mean, now he's gone from the blonde-headed kid and then he became a heel and he had an obnoxious blonde hair, but he was trying to put a look together.
Starting point is 02:52:02 and then he was dressed like Michael Myers in Halloween one week, and then he shaved his head, and now he's the king with the fucking throne or the crown. And I don't know what's going on here. But I thought it might be a video game. I'm not sure. He's definitely, you know, for someone who has his size, he's put on a lot of weight in the right way in the last year.
Starting point is 02:52:28 You know, he's one of the few guys on that roster that they've spent some time, not to say they do anything right. But he has actually improved his own appearance. Yeah, and he has a look. Like, you could see him working for WWE, because I think he's like 6-5 or 6-4, so he already is taller than half the roster.
Starting point is 02:52:46 Well, half. He's taller than the majority of the roster. But, no, I think Fletcher's, you know, I thought he looked good with the blonde hair as a heel, but I think he's done a good job of growing into being a American wrestler. Well, and that's the thing. That's what I noted. And the problem, again, is the way that they book other people,
Starting point is 02:53:09 they're trying to give Kyle a rub and get him over by having him beat a top guy, which the young guy beating the older established veteran who's a name boom brings you up. Yes, but the problem is Osprey is the closest chance that they've got at having a star baby face and the way they've booked him since he's been there, I don't think he's,
Starting point is 02:53:37 it's just okay, now you're just another one of the boys when he's getting beat by Kyle who right now, to me, needs developmental or a territory or something for 18 months and you could really polish him up instead of doing it every week on TV, let's add this, take that off and subtract this and shave his head. and we're all watching it happen every. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:04 Bring us the finished product after you've tried it out on the road. That would have helped him. And he'd be more polished and he'd probably be more readier for this because he's putting the work in physically and et cetera, like you said. But the same thing is with later on with swerve and Lashley. It'd be great to have this match later. Because the guy just been there for three fucking weeks. But anyway, the problem is with this match again,
Starting point is 02:54:35 their friends and they're putting it together, and nobody's going to tell them what to do, and that's why they did shit that people would have told them not to do. They trade forearms at the bell, and then start their spots at 100 miles an hour, and they're doing flips off the stairs a minute in. And Kyle does a great DDT, does great athletic moves and flips
Starting point is 02:55:02 and all these big moves that he throws punches like a fucking girl. Things like that, if you could get in a ring with Dick Murdoch who'd make you learn one way or the other, just a time or two. That's what helped a lot of guys.
Starting point is 02:55:17 That opportunity doesn't exist anymore. But then, Kyle gave Will a brainbuster on the floor at four minutes into the match. and bear in mind they're going past 20. And after the brainbuster on the floor, he rolled him in and tried to pin him down with a double finger lock. Did you catch that one?
Starting point is 02:55:42 I did. It'd be like a guy trying to run across the interstate being hit by a fucking semi. And when he lands, you'd go over there and you'd, fuck, I'm going to smother him just to make sure. What the... So then, you know, he got some heat on Osprey. But then after some heat, Osprey just came back and hit a flippy thing off the top to the floor and a forearm off the top.
Starting point is 02:56:10 And then they stood there and allowed each other to chop them. I don't know how you say that sentence, to be honest with, allowed each other to purposely strike the other person without trying to prevent it. and then they started doing big moves but none of them did damage they might both lay there and sell after three or four of them for a little while and he'd get up and go a hundred miles an hour and never but there's not even time for a guy to take a bump before the other guy would shrug off whatever and does do do his own big move and then osprey gave Kyle a tombstone pile driver on the floor. And at that point, Chivani started plugging the upcoming Continental Tournament.
Starting point is 02:57:09 When people would have, on the other channel, they would have been screaming for a fucking ambulance and trying to kick the people out of the building for doing it, and that's why everybody's reacting to it. Over here, within one minute, on the clock, the guy who got tombstone pile driven on the floor was 100% and is back doing big moves
Starting point is 02:57:33 at 100 miles an hour. And so they're trying to be a video game because that's their frame of reference of what is cool combat to them because they unfortunately are so young they were not exposed
Starting point is 02:57:49 to the wrestling business when they had access to numerous minds that would have told them how to fucking do this shit. and had to think about it. So if you could do something special, you can work it into the rules of the game instead of having the NCAA finals
Starting point is 02:58:11 where they don't have to dribble and they can tackle the fucking guy with the ball. So then they were on the apron doing shit back and forth while the referee stared gawkedly at them and then Felcher gave Osprey a tombstone pile driver off the apron of the ring onto the top of the steel stairs.
Starting point is 02:58:38 Yeah, that was a bit much considering. Again, the pile driver is kind of out there right now and not saying you have to honor what another company does, but when another company puts over the pile driver the way they do and then they do this kind of thing here, I don't know, should one company honor is not the right word, but honor what the other company's doing with a move like that It's not even that.
Starting point is 02:59:02 It's honoring logic and the integrity of your business. And why would you do something that's that risky that also means nothing and is so phony and people ain't going to remember it. I wouldn't have remembered it of all the pile drivers on the floor except I wrote it down. But the point is it's not honoring another company's rules or regulations or angles or whatever
Starting point is 02:59:30 to if you pick a motherfucker up and drop him from a height on his head on metal or concrete that he should go down and stay down for a little while. That's the integrity of the goddamn profession because it's stupid
Starting point is 02:59:46 otherwise. And what he gave him a tombstone pile driver off the apron of the ring onto the top of the steel stairs and then rolled him in and didn't cover him. he hit a flying knee and then he gave him a front pile driver and got a two count
Starting point is 03:00:04 and now it's just garbage and that was 22 minutes in and I said I'm done it's horse shit and I hit the fast forward button and honestly two minutes later not a fast forwarding but two minutes in actual time that's where Kyle gave Osprey
Starting point is 03:00:25 a brainbuster on the top turnbuckle and he covered him one, two, three. And just beat him. So the heel beats the top baby face by not cheating. And the manager doesn't help. But in the middle of the match, they each gave and survived moves and things that were much more devastating. And then, which is kind of like, I don't know what it's kind of like.
Starting point is 03:00:58 It's kind of like stupid is what it's kind of like. So again, there's these, the bubble of fans that like this kind of thing thought that this was just tremendous, and this is why their buildings are emptier and that people are more over when they get there and the people like the idea of them, then they are six months later
Starting point is 03:01:24 when the people have seen them do all this shit over and over and there's nothing left. Felcher needs developmental like I said for 18 months and Osprey you know you can't do a bunch of favors trying to elevate your friend
Starting point is 03:01:40 when you've been diminished rather than enhanced since you've been on the television program and neither one of your characters in a video game I know you have fun but what did we say earlier you know too many guys are having the match they want to have for the persona that they want to play,
Starting point is 03:02:03 instead of having a match that the fans will like and understand based on the gimmick that you're working in who you are, and how you fill that out, whether you appear visually to look like the gimmick that you are performing. And they don't understand that. They don't understand casting in Hollywood. Maybe we could put it like that. There's certain parts that certain people get cast for in Hollywood because they fit the fucking visual image of that person and others don't get cast in those parts
Starting point is 03:02:44 because they don't look the part. That's where that fucking phrase came from. Jump in any time, Brian. You know, I said this was in the middle of a string of matches where everything went 20 minutes. This went like 25 minutes. And I like these two, and I'm more tolerant of a, you know, New Japan dome finish or, you know, minutes into the finish than you are.
Starting point is 03:03:07 But this was too long for me for these two in the middle of their, you know, early stages of their blood feud. And then for me personally, once the spot on the stairs happened, I was like, this is ridiculous. And I was waiting for the finish at that point. And it took another few minutes. Because everything, that was every match from the, you know, for the rest of this card. I'm waiting for the finish and it never comes
Starting point is 03:03:32 and it's just more and more and more. Well, you know what they say. A watched pot always rings twice. The other thing is, I think the people there for the main card may have enjoyed this more than anything else and that hurt everything else after this.
Starting point is 03:03:51 Well, yeah, because again, Osprey is the closest thing they've got to a baby-faced superstar and everything they do. is to fight against that, that development. But, you know, and after the, and what else can you do after this? They're just people that are uglier
Starting point is 03:04:12 and don't look as good physically doing the same kind of fucking shit. Well, again, they followed up that match, that 25-minute match, with another match that would go close to 20 minutes, and this was the one where it seemed like the room was dead. I didn't give a shit Well now wait a minute
Starting point is 03:04:31 Hold on You're skipping over something Oh That's right And the next match you're talking about But not the next event The next event Was the champagne bottle celebration
Starting point is 03:04:45 With Maria May And Mina I'm gonna call her my little Mina mouse She's so cute She's like a cute little mouse in the corner right? I think she's the most overwoman now on the roster based on the reaction she's getting,
Starting point is 03:05:03 which is mainly from shaking her tits. Well, yes. Which is what she says, but I think she's the most overwoman on the roster right now. And that's because at least in the middle of all of this repetition and nonstop chaos
Starting point is 03:05:16 of this predominantly male audience can just look over there and there's Mina's mammaries. But she acknowledges it. The memories. But that's what it is. She doesn't pretend. Not acknowledge it.
Starting point is 03:05:29 No, because every woman in wrestling, every woman in wrestling has a fucking wedgy, and their tits are hanging out, and they're like, no, that's not, I don't have it out there for men to look at it. It's because I like wrestling with a wedgy or whatever to fuck it is. She's out there saying, I know you like looking at my tits. Here they are. You like Mina. I like you.
Starting point is 03:05:47 That's what she's doing, and it works because it's honest. It works because it's just something else besides this other nonsense. but this is not the champagne bottle celebration that I saw the movie of 30 years ago. I'm not sure if they stole the script because the movie they were speaking in German, but this was not the plot. But they, if I would say it would be embarrassing for cable access television, but people on cable access television are trying,
Starting point is 03:06:22 they have a thought that they're actually trying to get across, so I don't mean to demean them. But Mina, our friend Mina Melons. See, that'd be her vivid video name, Mina Melons. Well, maybe in the 80s and 90s, I think now they've gotten past
Starting point is 03:06:40 like the funny names that are sexual. Now it's like everyone's... What in porn? I think it's now like NXT kind of names. Like, here is... Oh, fuck that. Brittany. I want to see Dick Rambone
Starting point is 03:06:53 and fucking Rod... Dick Ramon? Hardrod. Dick Rambonne. Yeah. But so Mena cannot even pronounce the English words. She's like the
Starting point is 03:07:06 guy from the Philippines that Journey got to take Steve Perry's spot. He didn't speak English, but he can phonetically sing the fucking notes. She's better than that. She actually studied English, so. Well, she studied it doing what? Was she sitting there watching it being disemboweled?
Starting point is 03:07:23 Of all the things to critique the segment for it, these aren't even the ones. This segment was... Well, no, I'm just starting at the top. What was this segment? Whose idea was this segment? That's apparently theirs. She can't pronounce English.
Starting point is 03:07:38 Maria cannot act. Mina's facials when she's not shaking and laughing looked like she's completely baffled and everything is going on around her. And the thing is Maria does... Well, yeah, actually. except if I was involved in it,
Starting point is 03:07:57 that'd be what I was most puzzled about. Why am I in the middle of this? But Maria says that Mina is her one true friend. They're just like family. She couldn't have done it without her. And then they drink champagne with their arms interlocked. And then Mina starts screaming.
Starting point is 03:08:22 And, I mean, screaming and screeching, and her to the, like that, whatever her scripted lines are, and then as she goes over to the middle of the stage and starts doing a stripper dance, without taking anything off, Maria takes the champagne bottle and starts sneaking up behind her, her best friend, her bosom buddy. And then Mina turns around and Maria swings and Mina ducks,
Starting point is 03:08:53 and then they stare at each other and then Mina spin kicks the bottle away and they stare at each other again and then Maria spits on Mina more staring and then Mina tackles Maria off the stage onto a table which doesn't break
Starting point is 03:09:16 and then they slide off onto the second one which just collapses in the middle like it was the first one was concrete and the second one was Balsa Wood. And then they both lay there while everybody's running up to see if they're okay and then Mina gets up with fake blood
Starting point is 03:09:37 coming from her mouth and she's screaming and starts chewing on Maria's head and then the end. When she kicked that bottle out of her hand, I said this is amazing. Like this, these women are allowed to do whatever to fuck they want on this show.
Starting point is 03:10:02 And they're going out there and these are, I like this stuff better than the Mercedes-Mone stuff, this weird, they're the love of each other's lives and then, but she was ready to throw her off that stage or throw herself off that stage right away. Well, yes. I mean, they were ready to just do the Thelman Louise off the cliff. I don't, what didn't, who wants to, now this is going to lead to a match between, them from this long friendship that we just learned about, what, two months ago? Seriously, they should just make Mina like the host of the show, like downtown Julie
Starting point is 03:10:40 Brown or something. Like a random time at the show, she's just standing in the crowd talking to you, shaking her tits, because she likes to, and that's it. You have the promise of seeing her several times on the show, but none of these kind of segments or none of these matches, I think that would work better. Plus, it gets the hosting duties away from some of these other people. well maybe they could make it Danny Garcia's mother could be the host
Starting point is 03:11:05 oh that's not nice well no she figured prominently in the video they did well was her narration that's right yes because she left him a voicemail where she gave him like a two minute pep talk on life and they they have a video of this bland boring
Starting point is 03:11:23 bowl of fucking oatmeal with no sugar wearing fucking headphones with mope face on, standing at various fucking public monuments, listening apparently to his mother's inspirational voicemail. And that's, I guess that's another way they can try to get him over and fail, because goodness, gracious on a Ritz Cracker. What? See, now you need to heal the feud with him,
Starting point is 03:11:53 and they do a video where they're in various locations, and they're playing their text messages and voicemails, and it's, you know, When can we meet up? Fuck me! You know, just like all sorts of things like that. The takeaway from all the seriousness. Hey, hey, there's going to be better than this upcoming match,
Starting point is 03:12:08 so I'll tell a story again real quick. I've told it before, but it's been a while. But Tony Chavani, when he was with Crockett, after, he came back from Vince when Turner had bought the company. So it was with Turner. 1990. 1990. He's doing a lot of, you know, office work as well as the announcing and it,
Starting point is 03:12:28 he's doing some of the paperwork and working with the commissions or this and that, whatever he's doing. He's got him a handheld audio tape recorder. Then he'll sit in a locker room and he'll like play his notes back like call
Starting point is 03:12:44 Sting at hotel under name Steve Borden check on Sting's rental car or call you know fucking Anderson under name and you know check this and that so we waited until he'd gone out to do one of the TV tapings
Starting point is 03:13:08 and Stan got a hold of his fucking handheld recorder right so now we find out later on several days later he was at home with his wife Lois and I think he had like eight kids or whatever he's got a multitude of children and they were all very young at the time and he's sitting around the fireplace and his little home and show Charlotte, and he's listening to that tape transcribing his notes, and all of a sudden a voice comes on, call Bobby Eaton at Hotel, undername Eaton, E-A-T-O-N, suck Bobby's Dick, call Stan Lane, under-name Lane, L-A-N-E, lick Stan's balls. He came out. He said, well, Lois didn't appreciate it.
Starting point is 03:14:01 gave her some ideas I'm not going to say anything about anything like that anyway I'll save another story about Shavani for a later date so we had the video of Garcia with the audio from his mom giving him advice they're stealing yeah stealing as the big cat would say they're stealing
Starting point is 03:14:30 what would Trent's mother has already done an angle. Now it's Danny's mother. I thought, you know, they're all stealing my gimmick. I was the only one that was the mama's boy in the wrestling business. Well, you did it right. You actually made it work. You can critique these other guys in the way they've used their mama's.
Starting point is 03:14:46 You never even had to use your mama. You just have to say your name. I never used your mama. Nobody ever saw my mama. You just had to say your name. I just had to talk about her. Didn't even need to show up. For the TNT title, Danny Garcia,
Starting point is 03:15:02 versus Jack Perry. And at that point, I noted we are two hours and 15 minutes into this pay-per-view and three hours and 45 minutes with the preview, or the pre-show, or pre-whatever it was, and they get on the floor again and Knox is the referee again, so you're not going to get any semblance of anything. And at one point early on, old jungle Jackoff power-bombed Garcester. see a over the railing through a table and then buried him in garbage, which was kind of
Starting point is 03:15:40 an apropos there. There's a line there somewhere. And he was there buried in garbage on the floor for a couple minutes without getting counted out for a 10 count. I mean, it's two guys that, you know, Jungle Jack has driven off more people than he ever brought to begin with. and the whole punk thing was the end of him because the people that left
Starting point is 03:16:04 heard like they blamed him and the people that are still around but remember when it was better blame him and he's not a badass he's seen the movie where he's some kind of psycho killer and a psycho
Starting point is 03:16:24 the first part I'll fucking buy but not killer were you trying to do the talking head song or those are just noises associated with a psycho killer. Those were both. You know, that was a true to life story. But certainly not the song.
Starting point is 03:16:38 They were writing about the woman that got killed on Love Roller Coaster, when the Ohio players were in the studio next to the woman, it was screaming because she was being murdered. What? They then wrote the song Psycho Killer about that. But that's not how that, I don't even know if this story you just told this true,
Starting point is 03:16:57 but that's certainly not how the song goes. You never heard that the Ohio players on roller coaster of love, say what? You never, one of the screams in there, the urban legend in 1977 or so, was that that was the scream from a girl in the studio next door who was killed by a vicious knife-wielding murderer and her screams were caught on tape. Listen to the song. I've never heard that, first of all, second of all, I know that the talk. Talking Heads were not in the studio next to them recording Talking Head 77.
Starting point is 03:17:36 I know that's where they stole it from. They recorded the song Psycho Killer about the Psycho Killer that was next to the studio where the Ohio players were doing. I just Googled it and I have an AI overview supplied by Google. There's an urban legend that a woman was murdered in the studio while the Ohio players recorded the song Love Roller Coaster. Uh-huh. For their album, Honey. Say what? The legend claims that the scream on the track was from Esther Corday, or Cordette,
Starting point is 03:18:08 the nude model on the album cover. Yeah! Who was stabbed by a band member, manager, or engineer. The legend has many variations, including she was complaining about the honey and fiberglass she was sitting on during the photo shoot, which permanently damaged her legs and ruined her modeling career. Well, how would that have happened if she, you know, she got a kiss? She sat down
Starting point is 03:18:35 on the ship and then they killed her. The honey used in the photo shoot was actually an acrylic substance. Another urban legend is a woman fell off a roller coaster and the scream was captured on tape and added to the recording and finally, the woman
Starting point is 03:18:52 saw a rabbit killed outside the studio during the recording. But it says urban legend. That one didn't get a lot attraction. Well, that's, you know, it's the mainstream media, Brian. You got to know, you can't believe CNN and NBC and MSNBC and the Washington Post and the New York Times and the Atlanta Constitution and CBS News and Time Magazine. You've got to go to the real sources, like the people that talk about the woman that got murdered in the studio next to Ohio players.
Starting point is 03:19:26 Yeah, by the way, how sick would that be? That would be a much bigger story. The woman was murdered, then what happened? Then they took a new photo of her and put her on the album cover, covered in honey, and then they put her scream on the title track, or the biggest hit single they ever had. Well, see, at least it worked out that she was remembered. All right, so it's been about nine minutes since we started talking about Garcia versus... Jungle Jack. About 15 minutes into this thing, Perry brings the title belt in, and the referee stands there and stares at him. And Perry gives Garcia the belt and says hit me hit me with it and the announcers are saying he doesn't need to win that way well
Starting point is 03:20:06 he wouldn't win that way anyway if he hits him with it for the referee the referee ought to disqualify him but the referee should have disqualified the guy for bringing the fucking object into the ring to begin with because he's standing there looking at him so Garcia overacts and is conflicted and then grabs the belt and gives it to the referee and of course I mentioned it's the corpse referee, Rick Knox. So instead of just holding it and keeping his eyes on what's going on like a normal human would do,
Starting point is 03:20:38 he takes the belt and walks across the ring and is handing it out at his... He will not turn around so that Perry can then give Danny the nut shot and in a big knee and get a two count. So now their balls are invulnerable. He kicked him right to fucking balls. What if he doesn't have any?
Starting point is 03:21:02 You got me there. Then it wouldn't hurt. And then moments later, the guy who got kicked into balls, Garcia gets up and gives Jungle Jack off a pile driver. He gets a two-count. And then Garcia chops Perry about 15 times over and over, bang, bang, and he's laying him into it chops. And Perry's laughing at him.
Starting point is 03:21:26 This little weasily chicken shit motherfucker, doesn't realize that if he's going to be a heel, it would be a gold mine for him to quit trying to look like goddamn Bomba the Jungle Boy and be a little pretty boy dip shit Hollywood entitled wannabe fucking celebrity trading on his father's fame and begging off from the big mean men
Starting point is 03:21:54 that want to beat him up and he could probably get some fucking heat. but instead he wants to look like you know fucking Ted Nugent in his goddamn wango tango period with the hair and at 168 pounds or whatever he wants to laugh at people that are beating the shit out of him
Starting point is 03:22:15 and then Garcia piled drove him again and then put him in a sharpshooter and Perry tapped out so a pile drive multiple pile drivers didn't work on either guy but that sharpshooter has some bad shit they do that because their favorite wrestler did that so that means it's a more devastating thing than having a hand grenade shoved up your ass with the pin pulled i don't worry about that but the sharpshooter so garcia is the new
Starting point is 03:22:49 champion of whatever the fuck they were going for there you know again i've been saying it over and over this match went way too long the crowd was not into it for a variety of reasons, including the people in this. Got a nice pop at the end when Garcia finally won. But I think a lot of these pops too were like, they were happy the match was over. Yes, relief pop. You know, for every complaint you've made over the years
Starting point is 03:23:16 about various guys in AEW, Orange Cassidy still there, a lot of people that aren't even there anymore. They're cosplay wrestlers, they play wrestlers. I don't think is anyone that exemplifies that more than Jack Perry. Because of the gimmick. If you took this gimmick, and I'll use a name I used months ago when talking about Jack Perry stuff, if you put it on on Nick Comerato or a big guy where they're talking shit while they're getting beat up and they're driving around in a fucking shitty van and they're talking gibberish like they're fucking raven
Starting point is 03:23:46 about sacrificing something for whoever, for no good reason, it would be something. Somebody intimidating. When it's someone smaller than the average listener's kids. there's a problem. Again, if he was going to be a chicken shit heel, the same way Adam Cole should be, that's one thing. Give him a valet, let him be a chicken shit.
Starting point is 03:24:11 But I guess that's not cool enough. Instead, he has to be something he clearly isn't. And also what he isn't is over. No one gives a shit. And I think Daniel Garcia, you know, and it's kind of the story, the underlying story of the show, you know, Daniel Garcia here,
Starting point is 03:24:30 Will or Yuda later, AEW has doubled down and tripled down on these two guys that came in around the same time that have not picked up any muscle mass, any size, they haven't filled out, and because people there like them, they're used in roles they're not ready for,
Starting point is 03:24:50 and that people aren't going to take to them in. Garcia has a little bit of grace with the fans, They can run out real quickly. His promos are, they're not for me. I'll say that. They're not. And again, he's another really small guy. He looks bigger because he's in there with a guy like Jack Perry.
Starting point is 03:25:10 But he's another skinny, slim guy with no muscle mass. So I think that's, you know, they just signed him to a deal. That's why I thought he was going to win. And he did. You could get a little wiry 140-pound motherfucker fuckers. If he was nuts, you'd believe. he'd try to gouge your eyes out, but this fucking inoffensive little milk toast motherfucker
Starting point is 03:25:32 is just, what, no. He's acting like bruiser Brody. He's not as tough as Howard Brody. Now. Now, yeah. Howard could still take you, you little prick. Or at least talk you to sleep. Well, one or the other, you might pray for relief.
Starting point is 03:25:52 He might read you 1992 from his notes. But again, there's a difference between Garcia, who at least the fans have kind of gotten behind at times, and he's a little bit bigger than Jack Perry, who it kind of worked as Jungle Boy, although they did not do everything right, and it did not go all the way, because the character was that he was a little Jungle Boy. You get a little baby face, you get sympathy, but what is the scapegoat and what is his fixation on the transportation? And by the way, he's the scapegoat. Why did he come out in a goat mask? Is there any reason that the scapegoat, like, they call me a scapegoat, I'll dress like a goat? What the fuck is that? I don't think he understands the meaning of the word scapegoat.
Starting point is 03:26:43 But also, why does the scapegoat who's from Hollywood and had a TV star, movie star father have to drive around in a black painted used bread truck? See, it's just because it's cool for him to drive. up in it and they can hit it with things and everything, but it doesn't make any sense and it's never explained. See, that's a move for some heel to do a good pro. Like, MJF a couple years ago would have been like prime guy to do the promo. You know, you all got a problem with me because I flash the fact that I make money and I drive
Starting point is 03:27:11 fancy cars. All these posers in the locker room, Moxley, Jack Perry, Darby, they're all millionaires and they're pretending that they're slumming it. Get out of here. Be yourselves. Put on a tuxedo. Oh, well, speaking of putting on a tuxedo, I think maybe, you know, Ricochet, if you dressed him up as a penguin, I think that would be the gimmick. I can see him coming out and being dressed like a penguin, can't you?
Starting point is 03:27:49 It sounded ridiculous, and as you're saying it, I'm picturing it. Chili Willie was on. Chili Willie. This was a special added. attraction, a surprise match? Yes. And then the length of it was another surprise. There's another one.
Starting point is 03:28:02 It went 20 minutes. Well, and we laughed when we previewed the show. We said they'll probably add another match on the pre-show. And I don't know when they added this, but it wasn't much before that. Rick-a-chae versus Take a Shit for whatever reason we don't know, otherwise then they added it and they gave it 20 minutes or so to percolate. And it was a TV match again. And the same thing, they had a long fight on the floor to start out.
Starting point is 03:28:34 And referee Aubrey Ed was standing there, muzzled as usual, shaking her head doing nothing. Same as the crowd doing nothing. And it was the same shit that everybody but MJF had been doing all night. But, you know, here's the thing. Take with good booking. and a manager who actually managed and talked about him, and in the traditional sense, was his manager, to do interviews on a weekly basis on television for him
Starting point is 03:29:07 and his ongoing programs, where he would have been brought in and gotten over as one of the top heels and then interact with the other main event guys. That world, he could be a main event guy here. I can buy it. He's big enough, he's good enough. In short bursts, we've seen... that he can go in the ring and he's worth more
Starting point is 03:29:29 and probably getting paid a lot less than every other Japanese import they've signed for big money. So if those parameters that I just mentioned had been met, he's a main event guy. Rickashay is not going to be a main event guy here. He does the same shit that the base core audience that's never going to leave likes all the high-flying, aerobatic type of stuff
Starting point is 03:29:56 but he can't talk there's no real personality there there's no size and he can do the the flying which they've gone through 15 other people it can do from England, Mexico Tasmania and wherever
Starting point is 03:30:11 so there's another high-priced fellow that has settled firmly into the middle of the card and then when they ran out of shit to do back and forth to each other Rickashay went to the top and Take a shit just stopped him and gave him
Starting point is 03:30:30 a superplex and pinned him one, two, three. So again, another heel just out-wrestled a baby face, didn't cheat, and management didn't interfere. Who does these fucking finishes? But it was the right finish because Take a shit has more upside than Rickashay right now.
Starting point is 03:30:51 I don't know, you tell me. No, he clearly does. And, you know, you talk about the other Japanese wrestlers that AEW has signed, he's clearly, I think, the most valuable one out of all of them, and he's also the one you'd probably not want WWE to sign the most. He was the right... And probably the only one that you would have to worry that WWE would sign. Well, right now, I don't think they're signing Ishii or a Bushi can't walk.
Starting point is 03:31:16 He was the right guy to win, but this was the wrong match to have a 20-minute match here this late in the show. Well, it was built up so carefully, How? There was an eight-man all-star match. I guess they were both on opposite sides of that. Oh, that's right. Yes, yes. But that's the thing. If you're going to do a surprise match with this late in a card,
Starting point is 03:31:37 and it goes 20 minutes after every match has gone 20 minutes with diminishing returns from the crowd in terms of noise, energy, and attention, you had to rethink things. If you're going to put Takeshda over anyway, and it's AEW, and Takesha beating Rikishol, won't even hurt ricochet, why not just do this in five minutes and make it as fast and action-packed and exciting as you can for five minutes? Then it has some impact. Oh shit, did you see that? Best five minutes on the show. Instead, it was another endless match. Well, or they could have saved it for TV and had 20 minutes of them on television where the TV show is not allowed to run for five and a half hours because at that point
Starting point is 03:32:26 we were three hours into the pay-per-view, four and a half hours total, and we've still got the double main events coming up. And they, oh, here, have this one. Did you know, there's more of it? Did you know it was a double main event? Did you know Swerve Lashley was one of the main events? Because I didn't know it until they set it on the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 03:32:44 Well, I think they pretty much figured out that, boy, looking at that card, we've made a mistake with our world title match and nobody gives a shit about most anything else. So maybe they'll be interested in Swerve and Lashley. And I can't say it was not misplaced. Because, and I mean, remember Swerve was the guy that was just kicking ass and winning everything and doing everything? And then the people started liking him. And instantly, as soon as they realized the people started liking him, everybody beat the shit out of swerve.
Starting point is 03:33:20 He got everything taken away from him. And then he switched back heel again, we thought, and people kind of liked him again, but then now they just like to yell Swerve's house when Nana yells whose house, and otherwise they're not yelling much and there's not many people in the house. And this is what I was talking about earlier, is that Swerve versus Lashley, great main event, great pay-per-view match, not this quick. and with what they've done on television. I made mockery of it the other day
Starting point is 03:34:00 when Swerve came out and knocked Lashley on his ass twice, the third week he's been on television or whatever. And then you knew that Lashley had to win this match because it's too early for him to get beat, but it's too early for him to have a match with Swerve. They were going for if Swerve and Lashley were equivalently over in their world, Yeah, on their roster, in their presentation, and then, boy, we have this big match,
Starting point is 03:34:30 but Lashley just got there, and they've done damage to Swerve with the booking to where Swerve is still at a point where he needs to look fairly strong because he's had a lot taken away from him. But Lashley can't be selling now, because he just got there and he's the biggest beast in the fucking zoo. So don't have this match right now. have Lashley against a mid-card baby face in his first pay-per-view appearance that he can fucking demolish. And they just, they have no patience and they don't know how to time anything
Starting point is 03:35:10 or how to get somebody in and get them over to a level. And again, for the people who didn't hear it, I'm not saying Lashley's not over with wrestling fans. More people know who he is than most of people on his show. but in this environment position him how are we to take him as viewers
Starting point is 03:35:31 and when he again in front of 600,000 people on TV swerve just knocked him on his ass and made bumble fuchs out of his manager and partner and for a sixth of that audience Bobby Lashley beats the shit out of swerve
Starting point is 03:35:48 you're supposed to want to pay to see the baby face get even which means you do the angle where you get the heat on the heel in front of the most people and didn't make them pay to say now having said all that about the timing this was probably the best match on the show
Starting point is 03:36:12 for business reasons for accomplishing something for the rights of finish and for you know both guys involved being main event level talent in this situation. And Lashley was dominant through most of it and man-handled swerve. And swerve fought from underneath.
Starting point is 03:36:36 And both of their stuff looked good. Nobody looked like they was silly or fucking. They didn't stand there and allow each other to be chopped. Lashley's not going to go for that. He's too smart for that. And they did a little business with Shelton where he tried to interfere a couple times, they kicked him out of ringside.
Starting point is 03:36:58 And then Swerve had to fight later on in the match to really open up and get his shit. And then he jumped off the stairs and double stomped Lashley through the Spanish announced desk, which looked great to me. And that's kind of, if that had been the only time we'd seen a human being, male or female, fly through a fucking table or a table
Starting point is 03:37:23 or a desk that night, wow, can you imagine. But it was like number five or whatever. But then, you know, he gets a two count with a double stomp. And then Lashley rolls to the floor and bellied, bellied swerve on the floor and speared him through the railing. And then got back in the ring and speared him again and got the hurt lock on him and a referee rang the bell. It wasn't too long.
Starting point is 03:37:52 It wasn't silly. they didn't try to recreate their Japanese wrestling hero's signature moves. Swerve was the agile, you know, gymnastic type because that's his style, but Lashley kept him grounded enough that it didn't get ridiculous. And, you know, again, it was a great debut for Lashley to get him over to face a top guy, but he was already in the ring with a top guy. And, you know, I just wish the timing had been better for this match. They could have run Swerve and Shelton for a pay-per-view match
Starting point is 03:38:35 and maybe even a couple, you know, six weeks on TV. And then here comes Lashley and you got, but whatever. And then they rolled Nana in and he begged and groveled. And then they hurt-locked Nana. but can they please let Nana just say fuck it, I'm going to go down swinging and throw a couple punches because he's a baby face manager, people are supposed to like him
Starting point is 03:39:00 and they don't like cowards and people who don't help their friends out. But do you agree with me that based on this field that if Bobby Lashley had not debuted with the way Shelton Benjamin has looked, you're going to tell me that Shelton versus Swerve
Starting point is 03:39:20 couldn't have been a pay-per-view match to lead to the next big pay-per-view with Swerve versus Lashley? Potentially. I mean, there's a whole lot of done wrong here. And I don't think Swerve's booking despite him getting over with the fans, which, you know,
Starting point is 03:39:39 is kind of going the other way, it seems like, at certain points, lately. But despite that, the booking around them has been horrible. Nothing makes any real sense. Things are escalated to ridiculous degrees for no good reason and he's eaten a couple of pins lately with that said going into this
Starting point is 03:40:00 Lashley needed to go out there and just destroy him Yeah he needs to destroy everyone in his way right now So when I say there's a whole lot of nothing good here The match shouldn't have happened Now they did swerve and Shelton on TV a few weeks ago So obviously you couldn't bring that back and Well yeah no but that's what I mean if they'd have started out with the thought that we're going to
Starting point is 03:40:22 MVP is going to bring in Shelton and Shelton and Swerve are going to have a problem in an ongoing issue leading to a pay-per-view match and then we'll put swerve over but here comes Lashley. Then they could have got more time to build everything
Starting point is 03:40:38 and Shelton wouldn't have been cast aside so quickly and you'd get more mileage. And I worry about Sheldon right now because I see that he's in the Continental Classic tournament so either either he's going to win or he's about eat a bunch of pins in the tournament from people that you're like, how to fuck is he in there with this guy? How's it competitive? But you know, the other thing is, would Lashley,
Starting point is 03:40:58 with Shelton, and with MVP, out here, every time we've seen them in front of the camera at the press scrum where they stole the show, they're always dressed like star athletes. You know, the star athlete, typically throughout history, didn't walk around dressed like a bum. Usually either the team required there to be a dress code or they just realize I don't want to look like a bum. Wrestlers, there's a lot of wrestlers who are multi-millionaires who still think, you know, I want to dress like a bum. I guess for the bum credibility.
Starting point is 03:41:32 It's a big, the bum audience is a big demo. But every time you see Lashley, MVP, and Shelton, they're dressed like star athletes. They dress like stars. They carry themselves that way. What's MVP stand for? Montavius, voluminous Allegedly, but the play on were MVP
Starting point is 03:41:54 Most Valuable player. Right, right. Talking about Blue Chip athletes, bonus babies. What does it stand for? What is his name? Tell me his name. Montel Vontavius Porter.
Starting point is 03:42:05 Is that it? That's it. It's Montel, it is? It's Montel. I meant I didn't realize it was my name. He never says his, He never says his name. He never says his name.
Starting point is 03:42:19 The sad thing is you wait for Tony to blow something when there's something that, you know, I feel like in a way people don't go for the layup. They think they have to make things complicated, but there's a layup right here with the Hurt Syndicate, the way they carry themselves, how over Lashley has been on the shows. We'll see what they do, but...
Starting point is 03:42:38 Well, the good thing is, with a lot of the other guys, most of the other guys, maybe all the other guys except MVP. Not only does Tony have input, but they also have input. And that's why a lot of this shit is so indie. But the problem is they have to work with other people. So they have input,
Starting point is 03:42:56 so does Will Washington and swerve. Well, yeah, but with MVP and Lashley and Shelton, you've got three guys who are very smart to the wrestling business and know how to present themselves and know how to get themselves over. And you can't tell everybody to do everything. Some of this stuff, even if it's booked bad, a lot of the stuff
Starting point is 03:43:17 boils down to bad instincts, bad training, and bad psychology amongst the talent. And at least you don't have that with these guys and they may do some stupid shit. You know, like everybody else does in this company because that's the way that it's booked or that's the way that it's worked out. But nobody's going to be trading chops with Bobby Lashley and nobody's going to be fucking, you know, doing goddamn leaping tombstone pile drivers with Shelton Benjamin. Because they would have to allow that and they're not going to. Anyway, are you ready for the big main event, Brian? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 03:44:00 This was a long show and then came to the main event and all I'm thinking is I want to see how they're going to pull this off. Because what happened is what I thought would happen. The fans got so behind Orange Cassidy here wanting this Moxley stuff to end. end that they thought it was going to happen. And quite frankly, if there was ever a time to put the belt on Orange Cassidy, and I'm not a fan of all this with AEW, but we're thinking like, Tony, this may have been the night based on the reaction.
Starting point is 03:44:29 Nah. And then it just devolved into every bad dynamite ending you've ever seen all in one match. I don't know what happened here. Well, first of all, they can't put the belt because they would have to live with that shame. they would have to live with that shame and infamy all through history because it would be written in their history pockets was the world champion
Starting point is 03:44:52 but obviously they're setting Darby up for the thing which again is there's another 140 pound guy that can beat Moxley but at least people like him which thing the wacky races idea I've had no no but everyone just driving around cars crashing into each other that was my idea they're going to do that for free on television but it'll eventually be Moxley and Darby for the soul of
Starting point is 03:45:14 AW somehow. But you talked about just a second ago. The Hertz Syndicate dressing like stars, looking like star professional athletes, Moxley comes out,
Starting point is 03:45:30 dressed like he shops at homeless camps. He used to have some type of wrestling gear, didn't he? Now he just said, fuck it, a sweatshirt and sweatpants. And he came out first and he's the world champion, but since the building was bigger than their, or the crowd at least was bigger than there normally is on their tapings,
Starting point is 03:45:53 it took him longer to get to the ring because he has to walk in from the parking lot. So the mascot came out second, and we had the world title on the line between Plummer Moxley and our little puppy pockets. And they're doing the introduction, and at John Mox, he can get Moxley out Pockets runs over
Starting point is 03:46:15 and hits him with a Superman punch and then another one and then another one and then dives on him out on the floor and they started the fight on the floor we are five hours into this goddamn show at every single match that they have had except for Big Boom
Starting point is 03:46:35 AJ and the Twizzler has had fighting on the floor and then pockets goes over and gets on top of Moxley on one of the announced desks and hits like 20 fake punches where he's not even trying they're not being registered
Starting point is 03:46:55 because they're not making any contact it's just it's embarrassing they fought into the arena and around the ring for minutes at a time another indie style garbage match because that's where their minds are at. Moxley stomp's pockets into the stairs
Starting point is 03:47:17 so he can get a little color. At first it was a pap smear, but then a little bit came eventually. Let's see, Moxley DDT's pockets on the stairs. They haven't been in the ring in over five minutes at that point. Moxley piledrove pockets for a two-count. So again, even this guy
Starting point is 03:47:37 who looks like a, just your average buggy whip-armed fuck that might be at a local gym on the treadmill looking at his fucking phone a pile driver, that's a two-count. And he went back to the floor and the desk and the stairs. And then Moxley would kick pockets in the head and pockets would ask him to do it again so he would.
Starting point is 03:48:02 And then Moxley would no-sell some of the other clown shit. And I read 12 minutes in, I wrote, It's old. It's way old. Then they traded the slaps into forearms. They had a slap fight. Then the forearm thing. Then pockets stood there and let Moxley hit him over and over.
Starting point is 03:48:22 And then he put his hands in his pockets and started kicking Moxley's shin. Again, they don't. And then pockets hit three or four Superman punches and got a two count. and that's where Claudio and Pack showed up and then O'Reilly and Rocky Romero and the potato Eiji showed up and were fighting Pack and
Starting point is 03:48:55 Claudio so now three baby faces and two fucking heels but I thought he told him don't come out and help me that is what he said to him by the way what a baby face stable to save the other guy oh my God once Eishis out there is the baby face making the save it's ridiculous. Well, O'Reilly is so skinny, he looks like an asparagus sprout.
Starting point is 03:49:14 You've got eschies a potato. If Rocky Romero could impersonate a salmon croquette, you'd have a nice little dinner there. I'm not even sure if the fans know who Rocky Romero is. Because all of a sudden he was just standing next to these guys, and he's never really been introduced in a meaningful way. No, we know because he's been around for a long time, and he's wrestled in Japan.
Starting point is 03:49:37 but no, he just started showing up. He's like a wedding crasher. He just showed up and mixed in and nobody said anything. I wonder what these days, somebody go check his papers. And then Willow Nightingale came out and tackled Marina Schaefer. And so they had to have a big pop. And they did it the right way too. They didn't play her music.
Starting point is 03:50:02 They let her just run out. But to think about this, Marina Schaefer is the only one nobody's touched her. Nobody has had any offense on her. Nobody's done anything to her. She'd been kicking a shit out of people. That's why they popped. Because they haven't seen it. They've seen all these people be bludgeon to death,
Starting point is 03:50:23 which is another lesson for them. So then Pockett's got the briefcase that's allegedly supposed to have the title belt in it, but you can tell by the way they're swinging it around. That belt ain't in that case. It's an empty fucking Halliburton or whatever briefcase. Where is that belt? When was the last time we saw?
Starting point is 03:50:39 Did you think, did somebody lose it or pawn it? In Cincinnati? There, you never know. Maybe it was put up as a side bet in one of those amateur jujitsu tournaments, or death jitsu. I put my belt up against your car, man. I'll put my belt up against that big guy over there. Oh, I lost. I used to have a belt.
Starting point is 03:51:06 All right. There's some janitor walking around the AEW championship. I wanted us in a jujitsu tournament. other day right here in a school gym you wouldn't believe it. The guy at Home Depot, he's got it hanging over the thing on his cart when he's pushing the lumber out to the parking lot. Anyway, they nailed Moxley with the briefcase, got a two count, we're 20 minutes into this thing.
Starting point is 03:51:27 Then Moxley drew the referee's attention and Pockets was milking the punch, but Moxley had the referee in the way and there came Wheeler useless into the ring and leveled pockets. with whatever and rolled out the other side and then Moxley grabbed him and hit the fucking double arm DDT at least he didn't drop him like he drops the Japanese guys like their Faberjeet eggs he dropped pockets here cover one two three and the crowd went mild as I am
Starting point is 03:52:02 well the problem was again like the Chris Statlander match I think the fans there got hyped up to a point because because of what was happening in the direction it was pushing in, they thought they were going to get the title change. And not only did they knock at it, but someone who isn't over in any way in Wheeler Yuda, who's being shoved down everyone's throats because John Moxley loves him. This is his young boy. He got to pick anyone, and he picked the guy who wasn't over that no one cares about. You mean this is the guy that's washing Moxley's balls, at least whenever those balls get washed? Well, he ran in there,
Starting point is 03:52:38 and he interfered, and that was the finish. So it deflated people on a number of levels. And this may be the most one of the most afflated endings to an AEW pay-per-view ever. Well, it's not quite over yet as we'll get to, but that's the thing somebody's out there going to say, well, you're supposed to want the challenger to win.
Starting point is 03:52:57 Yes, you're supposed to always want the challenger to win and beat the champion in the normal psychology of wrestling, but not not because, oh God, we're so sick of this fucking goof with his fucking belt. Can this guy just fucking beat him, please, and get it off of him?
Starting point is 03:53:12 That, not... You know what the other thing, too, is I think a lot of people don't understand history. So a lot of people are like, you know, we're just doing stuff like the four horsemen, you know, where we interfere and we keep the belts and we help each other. Fans got sick of the run-ins. Fans got sick of the shit finishes. They expected it. They would stand up and turn...
Starting point is 03:53:33 Now, with Moxley's crew, obviously, you have to turn the other way. And, by the way, well, think about this. It was much less overdone and much more controlled. and they still got sick of it. So I think, you know, with the Moxley stuff, again, it's a slapdash crew of people, Claudio and Pack and Marina, and We Were Yuda and Moxley,
Starting point is 03:53:56 it's just not clicking. The ratings haven't been going up. In fact, the segments with them at the end of the show have nosedived. I think fans are ready to move on from this. AEW fans are ready to move on from this, and they had a glimmer of hope for a moment there. They lost that, and then we were you to interfere
Starting point is 03:54:17 to go right to the finish, which was a dead finish. And then there was a really stupid ending to the show. You're right beyond the actual finish of the match. Well, yeah, this is where I'm going to enlist your help here, real quick, because, okay, Moxley, DDT, 1, 2, 3, we're back where we started from. Moxley is the champion. And then Moxley and Wheeler
Starting point is 03:54:39 grab pockets and hold him down and pour a bottle of it. of bleach in his face. What? When a plastic bag just won't do. Unless we're going to have a bleach on a pole match. Why was that necessary? Tony, is it okay if I feed him some Drano?
Starting point is 03:55:01 Yeah, sure, John, whatever you want. Yeah, yeah, okay. Sounds great. So they pour the bottle of bleach in his face, and the announcer said, oh, my God, that's why they clean the ring surface with that. And you can smell the caustic chemical. and hangnail Adam Page comes in,
Starting point is 03:55:19 hits the ring, and hits Wheeler with a chair. And then Moxley and Page face off. So is Paige taking up for pockets? He's saving him? Is he coming back to take up for AEW? But before we can figure that out, Christian Cage comes in, who we know is a heel,
Starting point is 03:55:44 and hits his finish on Mox's. and he's dropped the the clipboard or the metal case that the contract for an AW World Title match that he's got is in so Paige reluctantly hands Christian Cage the contract case and leaves
Starting point is 03:56:04 so he came out just to hit a guy with a fucking chair and then left and then Christian goes to cash in because he's laid mocked The other heel out with his finish, but Jay White comes in, who is a baby face, we think, who fought Adam Page earlier in the night, but since Page is gone, White hits his finish on Christian Cage. But then Claudio and Pack come back in and beat up Jay White, and then all of Moxley's crew gathers together and leaves the arena.
Starting point is 03:56:47 And the fans are standing there, is that it? And then you cut to Moxley and his crew in the garage and they're in their truck or their parking level, the parking area. And they're going to leave, but a car runs into their pickup truck that they run around in the desert in.
Starting point is 03:57:10 A car runs into it, knocks it sideways, so they turn around, give a big boot to the valet parking guy, grab a set of car keys hanging on a hook, and immediately the car, the SUV is right there, and they've grabbed the right keys, and they jump in that, and carjack that vehicle to get out of there, which, by the way, anybody that's ever valet parked a car knows it takes the valet 10 minutes to find your fucking keys. He's the one to put them there. and then as they steal the SUV and leave it's Darby Allen in the car that ran into their truck and he jumps out, that's right, you fucking leave, you fucking cowards.
Starting point is 03:57:57 And he goes and tries to beat up their pickup truck with his skateboard and quickly finds out I don't know how it used to be, but now that they got safety glass and the like, you can't do a lot of damage to a pickup truck with a fucking skateboard but he was trying so he was bleeding too
Starting point is 03:58:22 did he really just did they say just crash that car or that car no matter what I guarantee you that he crashed the car into the other car and hit the fucking windshield because they're all idiots and they think they can just do this shit because we've established
Starting point is 03:58:38 Darby's not that smart but he was so I don't know what Adam Page was doing in there. He just stopped in to fucking hit a guy with a chair and then stare at Moxley and leave. See, that was intriguing for a second. It was like, okay, this is different. I didn't even think about the idea of Moxley versus Adam Page. That's a interesting term.
Starting point is 03:58:59 And then once Christian comes in and then Jay White, it was just too much. Just people for no. Like just one after another and nothing was happening. Christian never cashes in this thing. Why did they have to copy money in the bank? Whose idea was it? Hey, we need money in the bank, and then Christian will keep teasing his thing forever,
Starting point is 03:59:18 as if he's not annoying enough. Besides that, why didn't we get to see whether they were pumping Darby, pumping pockets his stomach or not because he swallowed a half pint of bleach? What, how did he get out of there? Was he blinded? Would the bleach eat his retinas and they had to carry him out?
Starting point is 03:59:38 What? People just disappear when they're seeing is no longer, you know, active. So it's just a mess. You know, again, the 30 minutes to get the fucking match and the entrances out of the way and then the bleach attack and then the run in and then run in number two, then run in number three, and then run into in the parking lot
Starting point is 04:00:01 with the car and the fucking, and that was the end of that. So to my idea earlier of AW Dynamite becoming less about wrestling more about wacky races. And tits. You know, I joke, but I think we're on the road there. Everyone has a car. What about wacky tits? I don't, you know, it sounds better in concept
Starting point is 04:00:25 than I think it would play out in theory. Or you may be right. Or an execution, I guess, is the word I'm looking for there. But speaking of wacky tits, Tony Kahn, another, another pay-per-view. Everything's great. Everything's wonderful. But, you know, the paper views, I'll be surprised if this isn't the lowest buy rate,
Starting point is 04:00:48 legitimately, despite whatever they put out there. Because we've been able to determine Tony and AEW are full of shit when it comes to public information. But the fan interest and then the, just the interest of the fans that actually went there, it's getting close to being non-existent. I'm just, someone besides us, maybe they won't listen to us, but someone is bringing up many if not all of these same points,
Starting point is 04:01:20 one would have to think. Somebody somewhere that they listen to or that they talk to, maybe without listening, is saying some of the same things, and they choose instead to do more of the same thing and more of the same thing is running people off. you've got to pick the right talent you've got to do the right things with the right talent
Starting point is 04:01:42 and then the talent has to be given the opportunity to get over on their own and all those things have to go hand in hand and they started with a gimmie because of the incredible heat that the WWE had with a large group of wrestling fans and they were willing to give the new thing you know a look and a try
Starting point is 04:02:06 and a chance. You know, that new thing did a million to a little over a million people on television. And now it's doing a little over half of that because they stopped being mad at the other company that makes all the stars. And they ran all the stars off of this company and replaced them with children
Starting point is 04:02:31 that it's visually ridiculous to look at. And like I said, Hollywood casting You all want to be directors, producers, cinematographers, actors, stars. You gotta have somebody doing the casting
Starting point is 04:02:49 and they have to look the fucking part. Well, there's a lack of that show-wide. But, you know, there's some promise. I mean, you gotta think, you gotta hope that MVP Lashley and Shelton won't be involved in too much stupid stuff. But again, swerve and his team and their booking has had a lot of problems.
Starting point is 04:03:11 MJF? I know it sounds crazy, but I'm going to be hopeful that maybe all this Adam Cole, Kyle, O'Reilly stuff is a ticket out of the MJF involvement. But we'll see. But the Moxley stuff, it's killing the shows.
Starting point is 04:03:27 It's killing the spirit. It's bad. Guys, that's in his green corduroys wrestling the fuck out of here. You want to get the fuck out of here? Let's get the fuck out. Wait, one last thing. Let me hit you with some breaking news.
Starting point is 04:03:40 Not that it's big news. And we also got to say, I don't even know if they'll hear it by the end, but happy Thanksgiving weekend and that general time frame to all of the people out there. That's right. But what are you hitting me with breaking? Not big news, but as we are recording, WWE has announced, interesting news. Saturday, December 14th, Saturday night's main event on Long Island, Nassau Coliseum, 8 p.m. on NBC.
Starting point is 04:04:05 The main event? Cody Rhodes versus Kevin Owens. Oh. What do you think about that? They're not going to do with Survivor Series. They're holding it back until Saturday night's main event. Well, you know, again, Survivor Series is kind of fucking loaded, right? You know, with the bloodline thing.
Starting point is 04:04:26 There's three matches. Well, but they need a, they need a ratings match, you know, what the fuck? If Owens is leaving And I know people think like Oh he's definitely not leaving now But if he is Is that a reason to hold the main event like that On free TV to have Cody go over than on pay-per-view?
Starting point is 04:04:47 No And plus we're pretty sure he's not leaving Like you said But no I it again They want to on network television They want a big number And they don't have to waste all of their top Matches on pay-per-view anymore
Starting point is 04:05:02 Because they're doing so well so they can spread this around. And so I think that's a good, that's a good idea to do it on the Saturday night's main event because that can be a special. It's like when Dusty would, every once in a while he'd advertise a special match that was only going to happen there and not everywhere
Starting point is 04:05:22 on the TBS show, even though it was just a local match for Baltimore or whatever. You got so many matches, let's use this one on another program. Do you think they have to do something different in the past, since like 92 even, I think? Whenever they've done Saturday night's main event and have been large gaps in between, it feels just the same as any other WWE show now. Originally, it really stood apart from the syndicated shows. Do you do something different so that it has a different feel?
Starting point is 04:05:55 Obviously, Ventura is under contract. A lot of people expect him to be involved. but do you make it a different kind of show than SmackDown and Raw? Yeah, well, I think part of the reason why that it was different before was just the nature of it being on network versus the other programs being produced exclusively by Vince.
Starting point is 04:06:17 The production was way up because it was an NBC thing and it was formatted differently because there was kind of like a house show card with a big main event and other competitive matches instead of squashes at the time.
Starting point is 04:06:32 And then also, because it was formatted where the big match would go on early because 11.30 to 1, they were fighting sleep. I expect they'll, the difference that you were talking about is when the production gap closed and everything started looking like great production, it didn't stand out as much. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't try to do something
Starting point is 04:06:55 that is a different look or something to differentiate it as a network program as kind of like if nothing else to that network and any other networks out there well look what we can do something like that they're they're going to step it up a little bit i would think one last thing this will be on i believe 8 p.m saturday night's main event traditionally originally 1130 replacing saturday night live
Starting point is 04:07:22 i'm supposed to saturday night live it'll probably do one fifth of the audience that the old show did at 1130 at 8 o'clock these days, but go ahead. What else is my question? Just talking about the difference in the feel and the look from Ron Smackdown, do you think it would almost be beneficial to have something, a rare thing that's you know, once a quarter or whatever, maybe even less than that, that starts at 1130? Well, you know, no, I don't think that that would be bad at all. I think that that would, they could have some kind of late night show that they may be able to
Starting point is 04:07:57 open up their content with a little bit more. which is kind of the idea of Vince had for shotguns Saturday night and then it all went to hell. But, you know, regardless of the time period, I think if they're going to do something regularly in terms of quarterly, I really think it's a good idea, and it looks like they're already trying to do that, to build something a month out to make it special.
Starting point is 04:08:21 Instead of Tony did the opposite in AEW with the Battle of the Belt's, it's the least popular show they did. do when it was named after a special where it was a bigger deal than all the other programs. So they definitely need the WWE, however often they're going to do this, to make it something, to make it a destination and make it stand out, maybe return or reveal new talent or some type of big match or a title online or whatever the case as it goes forward for each show to have something to hang its hat on. But that's just me.
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