Episode 566: Programs I Nearly Slept Through
00:04Like the midnight and the rock and roll.He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control.He's Jim Kornet.The keys to the future.Hell by Nett.Talk about the WWE programs I nearly slept through.Tony Kahn's nightmare talent relations problems.And hell hadn't frozen over, but Houston has.
01:15And joining me for all this frivolity and more.Hawaii and Brian the podcasting line,the King of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you,he's as cold as ice, and he's willing to sacrifice all my free time.The great Brian Last, everybody.Aloha, Jim.I am here.I have arrived.
01:40He has arrived.It's a pleasure to be here.That little ditty there is going to go down in history alongside the da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-a-na-of Batman.as the theme from last.It'll be the last theme that you think about.That was one of the funniest little asides ever.Like, sometimes you're telling a story and it's a great story,and then I don't know where you take a turn and it gets better.
02:05I was playing, you know, go-karts and mini-golf with macho man,and then I threatened to kill Terry Landau.Whoa, where did that come from?This one, you're telling the story about this local guy who got involved with something,and then I don't know where you're like,yeah, and then the police officer brought his own entrance music.Yeah.voiceover and I laughed about that for days after that.
02:26He has arrived and he is here, ladies and gentlemen, we are both here in the cold,snowy wilderness.You got snow.I'm still packed in a cocoon of ice and snow on most of the ground around here.And it's single digit temperatures will blow zero wind chills again until Wednesday morning,I think, more cold warnings.But did you hear about Houston?Houston, Houston, Houston,
02:554-C, up to 6 inches of snow in Houston.Did you see the footage?Did you see any of this video?Sounds like Gina Hernandez is back in town.No, I did not see anything about this, though.You being a New Jersey...I'm dealing with my own weather issues.A New Jersey...
03:12What are you up there into?We're Kentuckians.What are you?A New Jersey-Ite.Jersey-in?A JerseyA New JerseyI don't know
03:24Sounds better than JerseyYou as a minion of New JerseyThat doesn't sound impressive to youDo you know how often they getSix inches of snow in Houston, Texas?No, when was the last time I got any snow?Ever, I don't think everI was there for a year
03:42I didn't see six inches of snowAnd I sawSix inches of snow one time in DallasLike the first week of January85 that crippled the city and everybody fucking stayed in except for people ridingAlaskan Malamutes over to the fucking 7-Eleven for some hot chicken nuggets.It was paralyzing and Houston is 250 miles south of that and they've got the forecast forSouth Louisiana, Lafayette, Lake Charles, Nalans all that they're going to get snow.
04:20I was in New Orleans one time when they closed the schools because it was too cold.It got to below freezing.Below freezing was school closing weather 40 years ago in New Orleans.And they're going to get fucking snow.This was just below freezing.No rain, no snow.It got like 30 degrees.Oh, fuck.
04:42Water pipes are bursting all over town.They had in world class, and I don't have the,book near me, and it doesn't matter about the date and the place exactly, but the firstcouple weeks of January in South Texas, they had booked an outdoor show.And they had to cancel it that the same year that I talked about snow in Dallas.It was like the same week, as a matter of fact, I think.Because they assumed that, yeah, we can run the high school football field in January in,I can't somewhere down next to Harlingen.
05:20it's normally 65, 70 degrees.It didn't snow down there, but it was like 40 degrees in the daytime.It was too fucking cold to be out in your tights at night.But everything would be just fine.If there was six inches of snow, Buddy would have made every date that week.You know what his motto was, don't you?Was it no snow, no buddrow?If it don't snow, we can't go.
05:52But that was right up there next to the next to.no hair, no flare, but times have changed since thoseHalcyon days. Did you hear now, when we talked about the shitty weather,I'm trying to lighten the mood a little bit before we get to the bad stuff.Did you hear about the National Archives, are looking to hire people?They're looking to hire people with a special skill that apparently isfalling by the wayside with people that can't do this anymore,so they're advertising, they're wanting to hire people with this particular learned knowledge that they have.
06:29You know what they're looking for?I have no idea what you're talking about, no.People who can read cursive.This was on the news.People who, because they still have all the old civil war documents,handwritten things in files of the last 250 years of democracy before it ended yesterday.You know, but isn't people who can read cursive.Don't teach it anymore.
06:59And people who can read cursive, people who can fucking read, at least English.What do you mean that?How do you teach somebody to write without teaching them out of fucking right?Do they strictly mean cursive or do they mean like the old time-like language?Like, oh, ye maydie, I travel ye far.No, this is the national archives, not goddamn chapel at Notre Dame.we don't have shit from the 15th fucking century.This isn't medieval hear-yees and hear-yees.
07:28This is goddamn Ulysses-Grant saying,yeah, we fucking kicked their ass over therein fucking Appomatics or whatever the fuck.Right?It may be old faded cursive, but they're just saying cursive, cursive writing.Well, here's the other issue.How much does it pay?Well, apparently the price is going to go up.
07:50the fewer people can fucking do it.I'm gainfully employed here.I didn't investigate that aspect.That's the issue.If they're really having a problem,there'd be plenty of people that can read it,but they have to drop everything to go to move the Washingtonto work in the National Archives to do that.
08:04Well, I assume that if you want to engage in the field of archaeologyof manuscripts and things of that natureand get involved in curation of classic documents,that you might want to get your foot in the door.It's an entry-level position.You've got to be able to read.And you've got to be breathing.This is why Notre Dame's lucky.
08:29Jack Pfeffer wrote in block letters.No problems there.Disdenite Christine Jarrett threatened to kill me.But seriously, is this why that young people, at least here in this country,are apparently fucking stupid?I don't know if cursive itself is that, I mean, again, I don't know how this, I mean, you're making it,I mean, you're making it's telling me no one's applying themselves to read cursive, it just sounds likeno one's applying for this job.
08:59No, they were saying that it is a dwindling skill in the overall population, which is whythat they're putting out this plea, not just that nobody wants to work for us becausewe're a bunch of low-paying assholes.Again, I think part of the issue is this is one of those things that are a lot of schools,I don't know if every school.I don't know what the situation is, but at some point,I was taught it in second grade.And then, like, by the time I graduated elementary school,
09:25I don't think they were teaching it anymore into any of the younger kids.I think it went away.Wait, what, okay, hold on here a second there, cowboy.Because I went to school along before you did.And I've been writing now and all of my life.And if you're teaching a kid to write,it's either got to be capital block printingthe Jack Pfeffer method I believe they call it
09:50in the in the scientific worldor cursivehow else are you going to writetypeit's teaching a fucking second grade kid to fucking typethe teaching everyone you have spawnedwhat do they do with your smallerspring offs
10:09no she writes but she doesn't do any cursivethey haven't taught her cursive I meanshe's in first grade. Well, no, they're not going to teach her any cursing.They shouldn't teach your kids. She learns that by listening to the show.Yeah. Out of the years. But seriously,what does your daddy do? Oh, here, here's a tape. Play this.No wonder you can't come within 250 feet of that school. That's not true. You haven't confirmedthat. Nobody knows it as far as we know. But anyway, I'm just, I'm amazed at what the
10:41Fuck, people don't read now they don't write, and this is the shape we're in here.But if you need a part-time job and you're in the Washington area and you can fucking read,go to the National Arc.Well, what do they pay?You're in the Washington area.Get to fuck out of there.And by the way, if you are working at the National Archive, I have to think there are a lot of people working there are a lot of different people with expertise and different things.Where are they putting the cursive people in the basement?
11:09You're not going to get priority seating or anything.We're not going to get an office.As long as they've got an overhead lightso they can read the mounds of material that they are there to peruse,then I would think that basement would be fine.It's less distractions down there.You feel cozy and tucked in.It sounds like the person who drops their life and drops their job
11:29to move to D.C. and take this job is going to hate their life.They're going to be stuck in an endless tunnel going nowhere.Well, but where else you're going to go,where you don't feel like that for the next four years?Not in the National Archives, I'll tell you that.But that's interesting.I didn't see that story.It's just, you know, there's a lot of things that when you went to school,
11:51they taught you that they didn't teach me when I went to school.And then there were things that I learned when I went to school,they're not teaching my kids.It's crazy.I'm sure that the McMahon will fix it.I'm just about to say, I think somebody needs to fix these things,but then I realized that, yeah, the head of rewriting history departmentLinda McMahon, she's got so much experience.
12:15I can't wait to see what we used to do next.And speaking of which, and I'm not going to browbeat it,but just so we are aware now,the pig that is currently officially squattingin the White House now,did you hear how he wanted to piss on Jay,I did piss on Jimmy Carter.Did you hear about this?
12:39No, I know he was at the funeral.I didn't know he pissed on Jimmy Carter.Did he steal your gimmick from what you're going to do to Russo?No, no.He wouldn't even get up and walk his lazy ass over to the cemetery.No.The flag was flying at half staff over the Capitol, the White House, whatever the case,because of the 30-day period of mourning that is standard for ex-president,
13:03and they're following the protocol.And he thought, well, that's disrespectful to him.This is what kind of self-absorbed pig.just as an excuse for a human beingyou can see what he is.It's disrespectful to me to have the flag down.So they raised it back up for the inaugurationand then they drop it back down
13:23which has never been done before.Nobody's ever even asked for it to be done before.But just a kind of fucking glory hogas a, I can't say person.As an individual, that's what kind of is,but alsoeverybody,all the maggots were flipping out
13:43and their heads were on firewhen Joe Biden pardoned his sonbecause he's a fuck up with a drug problem.I'm thankfully there aren't any more of thosein the United Statesand the Republicans were trying to put him in jailfor fucking millions of yearsfor all these conspiracy theories.
14:03But even then,they flipped out when Biden pardonedinnocent people,Liz Cheney, Dr.people on the January 6th committee who might beand probably would be the subject of retributionfor trying to tell people the truth about this fuckingcriminal succubus that they've fucking fallen under the spell of
14:24and he didn't want them to be penalized so he pardoned themwhen dipshit when this criminal overlord takes overthe first thing he does is pardon the January 6th in Surreact.legitimate, dangerous criminals that are already in prison.Sure, some of them were hillbillies that got carried away because they're suckers.But there's oathkeepers and proud boys and people who assaulted law enforcement andtreason the insurrectionist.Whatever the fuck, they were in prison one guy for over 20 years.
15:06Having been found guilty, dangerous criminals were taken off.the streets and out of the populace,but he pardonsthem because they were on his side.Here you go.I could list everythingelse, but we don't have time on thepodcast, but this is
15:26what you wanted, this is what you're getting,andmore lunatics are going to be runningmore things so that more stupid decisionscan be made in the future.But yeah, thankfully,the Law and Order Party hasrestored about 2,000 criminals with weaponry, most of them, back out onto the streets.
15:51In the meantime, did we mention it was cold outside?It's freezing, below freezing.That's what you would say, yes.Yes, yes, below freezing.If you say it's freezing, does that just mean it's within that zone, or do you have to say below freezing?well actually you wouldn't definitelyif you said it's freezing then that does pinpoint itinto right at about 32 degrees
16:16but if you if you say it'sfucking just fucking cold well thenthat can encompass a variety offrigid frigidbone chillingall righthere's another fucking day where I've got stuffwritten down everywhere and I watched
16:35the showsin odd orbut I wanted to mention something to youabout something that I was doingbecause we talked about the negatives,my photographic filesthat now put the poor overworked feather bottomshe's helping me on another project
16:55to scan these negativesand I said, boy, we don't really know how manythere are, they're going to be.We found a place that can do at high speed,but they can't do it, the resolution that we need,but our in-house scanner can scan these things like goddamn NASA photographswhere you can see the hair follicles and their beard.So we've got to get this in order somehow.
17:20I didn't mention this to you.This may be news to you.But over the COVID-ridden holidays that I had,I put together at one of the books of negatives in sleeves.It is a big point.plastic binder that snaps open in a very authoritative way and it opens up and it's a three ringthing and you've got a hundred milar or whatever plastic pages that's the negative strips slideright in and you can you can turn the page as Bob Seeger might say you can you visualize what
17:59I am what I'm cooking here I think so even with the Bob Seeger in the background well youhave a good well it's my night moves I did a lotlot of this at night.But so now do this mathwith me. Each page, oreach negative stripis there's four frameson it. Right? You got a
18:20strip of negatives. You can imagine that the film strip.Right. Four negative, four frames on thestrip of negative. And it holdseach page seven of those strips. That's 28per page, right? Right.And I did 100 pages.Oh, boy. So that's 28.800 frames.
18:40And if you look real carefullyat what I started with, you can noticemaybe that something is missing.Oh, boy.So we're thinking now this may be more in the areaof 60, 70,000 frames.Wow.I mean, there's just no weight.
18:56And it's obviously,we've talked about my trials and tribulationsas a busy teenager andalso trying to fuckingkeep this shit in orderand it sat in boxes for years.So it's going to be a process, but something else you don't knowthat I've turned over to Mr. Featherbottom.
19:14He's already started working on these things.I mentioned a while back, I mentioned the audio cassettes that I hadthat a fan from Memphis had given me that she had recorded in her home.In her bedroom late at night, watching wrestling.Oh, Fargo!It was Saturday morning at 11 o'clock.and unfortunately Aunt Fannie apparently was in the room alsobecause I'd never had time to listen to those
19:44I got them right before I got starting a business and kept them all these yearsI thought well 1974 and 1975 Memphis TVyou know this is she's in suburban Arkansasbut they got the live show 90 minutes I said what treasures may be on hereso Hoshka's transfer to me saidthe TV is on in the roomand apparently they've got the tape recordersitting next to them on the couch
20:12and they are like cackling like are youthey were big she was a big fan of believeof Tommy Gilbert and Eddie Marlinand so Spohgo get him time do you hear the cross talkand it's a Saturday morning living roomout in suburban Arkansasso the sound quality may not be
20:32all to write home aboutbut then I got him started on the ones that I started recording back in1976 and he is so far reported that he doesn't know what fuck's going on becausehe wasn't even alive then and you know it's not like there's a run sheet with thesethings it's it's a cassette tape labeled wrestling June 14 1977 so he's justtransferring it, but he said he can adjust the things with all of the equalizers andequilibriums they've got on the computer these days where they don't sound too bad.And the thing with these are not, again, a lot of them are not the complete shows.
21:22Some of them are, got to be that way.We hope everything still plays.I was using some of those Sertron audio cassettes, if anybody's old enough to remember thosebecause of the price factor.But there may be stuff here that doesn't exist anywhere else.Well, there has to be stuff that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.The question is, as we go through it,will there be a clamor for its existence?
21:49So you started recording right after the split?Right before the split.So do you have like the week it went down?I'm hoping that there's still, possibly, unless we were at Ain't Lola's.and but also I think I still have Nick Goulisconducting some of the local Louisville interviewsbecause he did that until the split.You couldn't pry Nick Goulis out of that
22:13Nashville TV studio on Wednesday morningshosting all of the local promos for his townsexcept for Memphis.They did those live in the studio,but else he did everything else.It was insane.I remember Louisville Wrestling Fest,Tuesday night you have stole for one of the biggest cons
22:31I've signed in many years,Headlined by that return grudge, NWA Southern Junior Heavyweight Championship.I mean, just on and on.I never realized that, that he was doing the local promos for Louisville up to 77.Oh, yes. Oh, yes.Because that was his thing with the NWA placard on the desk and the nice chairs that and the curtain they gave.Because he'd been doing them at the, I forget what station in Nashville, but for decades.And that's what they did on Wednesday was the promos for the whole territory.
23:02there an angle or anything specific that caused you to finally say, that's it, I have to record thisin some way? Well, I think part of it may have been the bill to Jerry Lawler and Coyote Calhountoward Thanksgiving issue of 1976 when it was on TV and on the radio. And I've got sometapes of the radio call-ins that Lawler did and et cetera. But I know that people today are used toall of this, but I don't thinkthey understandwhat it was to home recordsomething when you're 14, 15 years
23:40old in 1976.Andbecause there was nohome videoof any kind.In 1976,they had home VCRs and nobodyknew it. You still had to be
23:56like, you know, you still had to be a member ofthe fucking developmentteam at Sony.and wasn't there a oh my god what was the cartridge vision that they had for a year that flopped right beforethe beta max came out 77 at whatever but nobody had home video and most people didn't know thatit was a thing that could be had and were you an audio file as a teenager did you get intosteroids steroids because I loved audio I really wanted my ear muscles to growDid you get into stereos?
24:32That's why I hear so well.Did you get into stereos and speakers and, you know,turntables and a microphone, things like that when you were young?Or was that, again, because everybody takes audio for granted,now that you could have it on the little box that you said on the thing.What I had in 1976, I'm 15 years old,was a tape recorder from, oh, God damn, I forget,what brand that was, it wasn't even a realistic yet.
25:03I changed up to the Radio Shack brand was realistic.And I traded the one that I had in.My mom had got it for me when I was like 11 or 12.And I recorded, the first thing I recorded off radio or televisionwas the local WFPL radio station, Free Public Library,took to broadcasting old episodes of the Inner Sanctumand the shadow and shit like that.And I would
25:34listen to them and recorda few of those withthe tape recorder that was in frontof me which basically you pressed a buttonand turned a fucking thing and it recordedthrough this Mickey Mouse microphoneuntil you turned stopand that was basically it.
25:50And that thing probably cost$12 and this is what I started becausewhenin 197776, 77, to have home recording capability where you could either tape audio cassettes off of records and make your own custom mix tapes or have a nice stereo that people would come over and say, wow, it was a fucking $3 or $4,000 investment at that point.And that would be closer to what, $12,000 to $15,000 in today's money.so it's not like you could just do this shit at your house have i made that point clear i think sookay so i would it started with the old tape recorder and then when i realized the microphone wasn't even
26:41a microphone shape thing it was kind of square it was unwieldy it looked like a fucking microphoneyou'd key down on a cb radio i got the realistic tape recorder for like 12 or 15 dollarsand because I wasn't even making money on pictures yet.I just started.And, you know, use the microphone with the little plastic standand I just kind of put it in front of the TVand I would turn the fucking tape recorder on.And to save money, at first I just started recording like the interviews.
27:17And if I knew that somebody was really a notoriously shitty promo,I probably wouldn't even turn it on.but because the blank tapes over at Radio Shackhere in lovely suburban Louisvillewe're like $2 or whateverwell that's almost $10 and I make no moneyand in today's money is what I'm sayingso I would save tape and just record some promos
27:41but then later on as I started making moneyI might record more of the showbut again this is something you never thoughtanybody would want to go back and listen to Lance Russell call a match that you can't watch.Now, God damn it, if there had been home video at that time, I would have been turning tocrime to find a way to get in on that, but more on that in a second.But from that period from 76 through 79, as I said, as I started being able to afford a few moretapes and also just getting more interested.
28:18I recorded more of the show until at the end.There's probably a lot of them that are somewhat complete,except for the goddamn commercials.I'd try to edit those out, but I had to be right there in front of the TV to recordanything anyway.There was no timer apparatus.And then sometimes it was hard to find 60 minutes aside tapes.They were all 45 minutes, so you'd have to, right in the middle of something,
28:44the fucking machine would kick off, and you had to do.to flummox and turn the tape over and hit record again.So we don't know what we've got,but we'll have something that nobody's heard ever since it happened, probably,because everybody knows all those tapes didn't get safe.All right, I'm looking forward to that.That should be interesting.You never got to go into like high five buys or one of the big major,
29:11I don't know, what was it, crazy fucking Eddie?Crazy Eddie?well it's down here in the 70s at the big mallsand some of the standalone stores the big stereoretailers they were so cool to go into as I gotstarted making a little bit of moneyand started being more interested in musicand there was no way to home video record wrestling
29:38but boy I started getting into stereosand cassette decks and turntables and nicespeakers. And at the time, as I said, it was a goddamn investment because you couldn't just go in andme, you know, they came out with boom boxes, what, in the early 80s? But even then for people whowere into sound quality, you know, if you got a really nice setup, a nice cassette deck with thefucking LED peak meters and all the flashy shit was $300 in the late.70s. So that's like over1,000 today. And then you need
30:18a nice receiver, which is probably a little more, and aturntable, which may be a littleless, but then you wantedthe stylus with the cartridge on it thatpicks up the optimum signal.And they had a whole industry around that, and thegraphic equalizer, and then the bigass bugging stereo speakers.
30:39And all these stores had a roomthat you could go in, that you could go in, thatyou could only go into with a salesman with you,where all the high-end shit was.And this was like the equivalent of today's,I don't know, plasma fucking 10-foot screens or whatever,but this was the best-quality cassette deck availableand the best-quality turntable with this optimum speaker system.
31:05And people were spending tens of thousands of dollarsto have today what they sell out of a boxat goddamn best buy.I mean, all the equipment was high qualityand it would last foreverand it was incredibleif you wanted to put everything togetherand have your own home theater
31:28and do all this shit yourself,but it was goddamn, that's one thingthe price has come down on.You don't have to do that anymore.The amount of things you need also.Well, and my first VCR, the MagnaVox.Wade 50,50 pounds with piano key operation on top.
31:47And it was built like a tank, and it cost $1,000 in 1979 for a VHS recorder,which would be what, $3,500, maybe $4,000 today.And the blank tapes at three places in Louisville that you could get them were the T-120,120, 120 minutes, two-hour tape was $25.That'd be like fucking 80-something bucks today.in the only few places you could get them.So you had to be sparing at first there.And then things started coming down as the war was on.
32:24But it was a fucking investment that you couldn't make to just record shit,even if you had a fucking, you know, desire to at home back then,unless you were already an adult and gainfully employed.My father had a lot of home audio recording equipment.So he used to be able to record if there was going to be a concert on the radioor if there's going to be something weird on WFMU or WFUV,he'd be able to get it, he had a good antenna and he can record it.And then, of course, he had a top of the line stereo system and everything.
32:57Was he of the reel-to-rear?Oh, yeah, that's how he recorded it.He recorded his audio on reel-to-reel.I still have all these real-to-reel things from the 70s in the early 80s.The first audio recording of me is on one of them somewhere.Well, we need to keep that hidden away.The cool thing in like the early mid-70s when I was starting to get just,I always loved movie books, entertainment, television, history of radio, et cetera,
33:26all of that type of thing.But also they had a variety of services.We've talked about Black Hawk films that had 16 and 8 millimeter films of movies that were obviously truncated.They were cut down like eight minutes, gone with the wind.Here it is.But that was the only way you get home video.They had companies that sold audio of the old again,the Abbott and Costello radio shows or the InterSanctum or the Whistler or whatever.
33:57And they had the option because many people at that point,the real dedicated audio files and the people that collected audiopreferred reel to reel because it was higher quality than cassettes,but you could buy it on reel to reelor on cassettefor like more money than I hadbut people that's that was home entertainmentin the 1970s and all of a sudden we got VCRs
34:27and fucking then we got cableand then we got pay-per-view in the next five or six yearsit's like what's the fuck and now people have forgottenyou know you couldn't just heyrecord thatwell fuck it wasn't that easythat's why none of this shit's aroundI recently found some home video of a family get-together in November of 1985.
34:51And one of my uncle's friends, and my uncle was probably in his late 20s at this point in time,one of his friends had a video camera, and he's filming the party.And one of the other friends walks up to him slowly and you see the sudden, he goes,does that have sound?Like he had no idea what it was.He had never seen a video recorder like that.People didn't have them in their homes until all of a sudden they did.Hey, one of the most frightening memories of my childhood, and it will move on to something more commercial.
35:26My dad took home movies, and we still have all of them, and I had them transferred to video sometime back, but I have the actual original film also.But I still have the camera, and I still have the lights, and that's the thing.when I was in1963, 64,when I'm two or three years oldsitting in the floorunder the Christmas treeon Christmas morning
35:49invariablymy peace and tranquilitywould be shatteredand I would be mortifiedand scaredbecause suddenly down the stairswould comesix giant bright, hot fucking lights
36:05encompassing the roomjust like the sun wasexploding on me and my father's feetunderneath that coming down the stairsand somebody sayingMerry Christmas Jimmy and I'm a way the fuck of theseoh my God it's so hotbecause you couldn't even take video
36:26with a movie camerainside the house unless you had thesegiant fucking lights I've got thisapparatus was literally two feet acrossI've still got itand it bolted onto the goddamnvideo camera that took8 millimeter
36:43you know filmand it was bigit was twice as big as the fucking cameraand we had to hold it on the sideto hold that up and the whole nine yardsit was that was just to takehome movies in your houseand now everybody's a TV studio
37:00in their fucking ass pocketthat's a goodI guess that wraps up our look at societyright? Yes yesvery anti-socialabout certain societal trends.I'll tell you what's going to go on that's very social.Folks, February, we've got to try to get some love back in the world, right?
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39:21of classic wrestling from the 70s and 80s from the wrestling gold series,absolutely free of charge, stuck right into your package, wedged up there sideways,at some bitch.It'll be the unreleased best of Tex McKenzie.Well, as a matter of fact, I've got Tex McKinsey against Bulldog Bob Brown.and that was the long and the short of it.But anyway, Jimcornad.com, all the month of February, starting the first at noonEastern and continuing through the 28th, you lied to me the other day.
39:53It's not a leap year, so there will be no 29th.Brian was trying to cost you people money.I corrected myself quickly.I was wrong initially.Well, you knew I'd find out about it.I told you about it.The first one.That's because you wanted to be the first one to get me the bad news.
40:07See?You just proved my point.All righty.Anyway, before we, see, again, I'm unprepared today.I've got things written down.I've got notepads.We've got stuff.We talked about that type of thing.
40:21Before we go into the WWE's land of milk and honey,there is some other professional wrestling news going around the world of wrestling,including with personnel.And I guess we should start with the one I'll just bury myself with.and then we'll go from there.But did you hear about the controversy with Tessa Blanchardon the T&A live event, big event,medium-sized event, whatever event they held over the weekend?
40:57Well, their events are getting bigger and bigger, actually, it seems like.But I heard that she wrestled Jordan Grace.I heard people raving about it because several people said we should watch it.Apparently it was Jordan Grace's last night in the company.And then after the fact...I've been waiting to see her last night in the company forever.I wish somebody had told me.No, I'm sorry.
41:17I just kid.You may be about to see her start in another company you watch pretty often,so we'll see what happens there.But after the fact I heard about the crowd taking over,I still haven't seen the clip or the match or anything.Well, I'll just, I'll chime in here.And then we can discuss some of the other thingsthat maybe you can inform me about,
41:38but I did see this clip.I didn't see the match because, as I said, nobody told me about it.And I don't know that I would have watched it truthfully because of our time issues.But I'm interested in what's going on with Tessa Blanchard because I remember,how long has it been five or six years ago, maybe before she dropped out of sightand was exiled to, I don't know, a goddamn plantain plantation?in Guatemala, wherever the fuck she's been.I think it was just Mexico.
42:15Well, somewhere another,the border has been impenetrable for her.But I remember saying,well, come on now.It's a serious topic.Out of nowhere.Out of nowhere, ladies a gentleman.A serious topic deserves some kind of somber activity here.
42:35I said when I saw her,like I said, it's been so long,I can't even remember who it was against,but I said she's one of the best women's wrestlersI've seen and I don't know how longinside the ring.And she looked great and she was in shapeand her work was
42:51as I was impressed by her workenough to leave a lasting impression on meand then of coursewhatever the fuck was going onshe got married to some guy and moved to Mexicobecause he was a wrestler down thereand then she got unpopularwith the fucking crew and the law
43:10locker room was it there or was it in theUnited States or on some indie levelall of the abovemaybe okay you knowpeople don't like herand she's a racistfor someoff of off air
43:27unrecordednot for public consumptioninteraction or argumentor conflict that she's had in the locker roomwith some of the girls in the locker roomthey don't like herand so she has beenbasically in Mexico
43:46for however fucking longand I'm saying what the fuckagain some now people are going to saywell cordet's going to take up with this racist guyoh blow me blow me blow me blow mewhen there's real shit going on in the fucking worldblow me about this phony stuff you imagineand delude yourself to believing
44:04butit I would thinkto thethe WWEor toI would say AEWbut they don't count they defylogic over business but for
44:22the WW or for TNAor for somemajor companyto ignore this girlwho is obviouslyhighly talentedand capableof performing at a high level just because
44:38the other girls in the locker room don'tlike her be somewhat unusual.I'm so manyunlikable and unsavory people have beensigned by companies in a past.So I was always thinking diddid she piss them off somehowbut she hasn't even worked there in the
44:57WWE and the T&A thingI don't use their toilets.And I don't knowI don't know how she left TNA before,but it's been years.That was an entire previous bunch of people running the thing.So it doesn't seem like she should have heat with the promotions.Have I missed something that has been publicly reported, Brian,
45:26that you can remember.I don't think she's heat with the promotions.Tell me why she should have heat with any promotion?Then why wouldn't you fucking at least bring this girl in and talk to her and say,you know, get some preliminary idea of,are you completely nuts,or are you a normal person as maybe...Yeah, that's why she's in TNA now.
45:47That's exactly why she's in TNA right now.Let's see how this goes.And, you know, again, night one is the problem.And again, I don't want to just dismissbecause we'll talk about AEW's most recent issue shortly,the idea that if someone is so problematic in the backthat them not being there makes everyone's day betterand it won't affect the business one way or another,
46:08that's something to think about but if you get past that her in ring has always been great and it was great apparently on this return match people were raving about it but yeah but the entire audience started chant i mean it was a loud chant from what i understand she's a racistand that's what i'm saying that's where wwe if they're watching to see how this goes you got to figure out of way and i don't know what it is or how you doit to get that fan base not to do that and other fans not to do that, but it's a difficultposition.But why would these weasels do that?Why would you do that?Because you don't know this girl, you've never met this girl, and she's having a good matchon a show that probably needs some of them.
47:01And she's a racist, because that's an audience participation thing you can join in on, even thoughyou have no factual knowledge of thatotherwise what a bunch of other fucking peoplehave said in the fucking locker roomand I've talked about ita while back on a programwhen potentially the last timeanybody heard anything from her
47:22in what contextwas this going onwas she coming injust screaming racial epithetsat people and telling them to fuckinglick her shoes orhad it maybe been somebodyjust dropped her
47:38on her head or fucking kicked her in a fucking face.What kind of heated exchange was going on here?What was said blah, blah, blah.And I'm sorry, we have Hogan on tape.You know, let's not pretend she didn't say.I don't even think she's denying that she didn't say these things.But I don't know what exact things, but.She threw the N-word around in a fight with another wrestler.
48:05Okay.And in what context?did she just drop her on her head or kick her in a fucking face?Were they about to be pulled apart?Or is she just walking in that day going, well, you fucking stupid?But the problem is if that happens on top of other incidents,and again, when it came out, it was like one girl after another after another,yep, this happened to me.
48:27She spit at me.We had an incident here.She bullied us.And, you know, again, if it comes to the point where removing the doctor from Malacca,room makes the locker room a little happier and makes everything run a little smoother and it's notgoing to hurt the business you have to think about sometimes someone's too big of a pain in the assor at least you think they could be she got removed from those locker rooms now the thebullying thing I'm like unless she was actually physically pushing people around then the bullying
48:59yeah the racial epithets thing is something different and again we need context but what II'm saying is that this wasshit that was in, it wasn'tin front of fans, it wasn't at appearances,it wasn't on tape, it wasn't on audio,it was their personal interaction,and so is she probably,most probably guilty
49:21of saying shit or havingan attitude that she mightnot have had and thought better of itwhen she was younger? Yes,but why does thatdetermine that these peoplewho don't know anythingabout the firsthand situation, can
49:37chance she's a racist on her debut in a fucking company when apparently they want her there andshe is not at that point pissed anybody off yet why the fuck would you do that to somebodyit's like she's been noted for being busted on the front page of the newspaper at a clanrally or making major contributions to the american nazi party but again you're talking aboutyou're not talking about the w ewe crowd you're talking about t and a which is like a ewe ora ring of honor in the past.A dedicated fan base.Dedicated fan base that follows everything to the T on the internet.
50:15So they're aware of it.A.k.a. Smart asses.That's the problem.This isn't something that's as simple as her working it out in the back with the girls that sheoffended or anyone who has a problem with it.That's happened in the past for people.The problem is the fans are aware of it.And at least the fans there, and I don't know where they ran,
50:35the fans there really wanted to be vocal with itand if that becomes a thing, that's a problem.That's not a thing you want.You want fans to get.That's like the worst check.I can't think of a worst thing to have chanted at someone in the ring.I mean, that's a go-home heat kind of chant.But again, that's why that unfortunately,
50:59the fan base for the little small niche promotions,and I went through the same thing with the Ring of Honor group in 2009, 10, 11-ish,is that they're so obnoxious with their indie-minded shitthat it sometimes it hurts your talent or it damages your perception to people who might beseeing it or you or the company or whatever for the first time and go,oh, what is it?What the fuck's the matter with these people?And, you know, and that's, but it's a shame.
51:37So the point is, if any of the girls that she pissed off had wanted to hit thering and start kicking a shit out of her, that might be one thing.But for the fucking fans who don't know her have never met her and weren't aroundand believe what they read on the internet, good, bad or indifferent, whether it's rightor wrong, it wasn't any of their business.And if they wanted to not react or not cheer or not boo or not do whatever they're supposed to do,that's one of the, but she's a racist.Come on.
52:06What the fuck?There are other people actually in public and on, yeah.They just booed Hogan out of the building.They didn't chant.There's other people actually on video.But now maybe they've given them the idea of.Let's see what happens on Saturday night's main event.But, you know, point is, do you get my point that it wasn't necessary for them to do that
52:27to this girl as trying to, I mean, very talented and trying to continue her career.and if she causes a problem in T&A,then that might be one thing,but she hadn't got there,or just got, just got there.I don't want to blame the fans for reacting that way,because if they don't know anything,and all of a sudden she just shows up,
52:45and again, if she has to address that,and remember, she did release some kind of statement,remember she released a statementwhere she, like, apologized,but didn't say what she apologized for?Do you remember that?Well, in that case, then just apply it to wherever the fuckyou want to apply it to.
53:03But this was recent.I'm saying.I'm just thinking out loud now.She released that statement a little while back.Now she's in TNA.TNA has to deal with WWE.Again, it all comes back to whatWWE is seeing.
53:15And I don't know if it's as simple as you book herto save an African-American baby face in the ringand all of a sudden they're friends.I don't know if it's that simple.It's because of the fan base.And they're not going to just all of a suddenshut out what they've heard.These fans run with what they've,
53:32heard and we'll see what happens there, but that's TNA's problem right now.Well, speaking of other talent relations issues, apparently now one of the people thatwill not be getting phone calls from Tony Kahn and that we will not be seeing on televisionin the very near future and potentially even the far, far future, is Dr. Britt BakerDMD.She has beenbasicallyshe has been
54:02exed fromtheir worldlike amember of theManson familybecause she'shard to getalong with
54:12another talentrelationssolutionto the problemjust don't talkto her.Is thiswhat's happening?
54:23What are yousayingis a solutionto not talkto her?I'm sayingit's anothertalent
54:27relations solutionof theirs.They're justnot going totalk to her.do her. She's just gone home. From AEW, apparently. And again, this is in line with thingswe've been hearing for a while. One thing came out very publicly, if you remember a few months back,with MJF. I think it was MJF versus Will Osprey. They had a great match on TV. And the word was
54:51that Britt Baker was in the women's locker room or in the back tearing it down. And how comethey don't get enough time? She deserves more time, not this.and it led to an incident, a screaming match of sorts.But that wasn't the only thing.There have been rumors about her and Jamie Hater.Everyone wondered, why isn't Jamie Hater doing something with Britt Bakernow that she's back?Apparently there may have been some issues there.
55:17Because Jamie Hater hates her.And those are kind of the thunderosa stuff.I mean, that's been out there for quite a while.I think even some people who visited the locker roomor worked one date or something.Lufisto.You know, there were these issuesabout the AEW women's locker room
55:35and for a lot of the issues around the locker room,Dr. Britt Bakerkind of put herself front and centerbecause of her relationship with Tony.And I think...Well, now we...Because close friends, close person friends.I don't mean anything...
55:49No, no, no, no, no.I don't mean anything...I'd be surprised.Wait, yeah.You may want to call Manscaped.I don't know.You may need some help, doctor.I don't know.
55:59I didn't want to ruin our credibilityin a variety of levelsby insinuating that that was...But she was an early AEW personwho, when they were a very close-knit group,she had a good friendship with Tony Connie,hired her boyfriend at the time, Adam Cole.And there are certainly people that thought
56:20she got very cozy in her relationshipand her position in AEW.And part of the other issue is she kept getting hurt,I'm not this isn't one of the issues with her behavior but if you're looking at the bigger pictureabout her versus other stars and hey you don't just you know freeze out stars you know they they paidher while she was hurt and we're sure that they you know took care of their medical but the pointis life goes on you can't grieve forever and she's not really riply yeah she's not evenSasha banks like she's not well yeah but other people rose up to take those places
56:53while they were still they were not ignoring young dr bakerHowever, Dr. Baker may have still thought she was the queen of the castle.No matter what town that castle was in, even if it was half-filled or a quarter-filled or...If it was a bouncy castle.Whatever it may be.And A.W. is a changing company right now.And the women get a lot better when she's not around.There was an incident, I guess, where Serena D.
57:22Remember her and Serena D. were briefly doing something.I've tried to put it out of mind.Well, Serena D apparently was like on the platform, I think,and Dr. Britt Baker was in the ring,and this is the last thing of Dr. Britt Baker on AWTV, I think.She said, who cares?Or nobody cares.Nobody cares.
57:42Nobody, oh, that's when Serena came out,when is she waving her flag of...That's right, that's right.She's from the Isle of Malta or wherever the fuck.And, yeah, nobody cares.Apparently nobody cares for me.So again, reports started emerging that kind of were completely in line with everything we had heard.And I guess the new wrinkle is that she's being, I don't know what you call it, mirroed.
58:09I don't know what you call it.You're home and you're paid and your contract's going to keep running.They just don't call you anymore.They don't call you anymore.And, you know, I don't think they're going to fire her.I don't think they want her doing interviews.I'll tell you that right now.The last thing Tony Con wants is Britt Baker doing interviews with her thoughts about AEW.
58:32Whether they're true or not, that's the last thing they want.You know, I'm sure right before she re-books Rogers and O'Connor from Chicago in 61,she can give an excellent fucking dissertation on what's wrong with AEW.She was suspended over the summer, right?That was the MJF thing.She got suspended right before Wembley, and then she had to wrestle Mercedes-Money atthen she disappeared again.Well, you know what?
58:57They discovered when she got suspended that things were so much brighter,that everything tasted better and everything smelled better,and it was just a new way of looking at life when she wasn't around to yank their teeth.According to Sports Illustrator, I have an article here.She's wrestled just two matches since her TBS title shot in London.Most recently she defeated Penelope Fordon the November 13th episode of DynamiteThat's when she was confronted by Serena Deeb
59:31On DDP's YouTube showShe announced that she's been off TV due to outside commitmentsHere's a quoteI'm filming some fun stuffCan't wait to tell everybody what it isIt's on the down low for nowBut it's really exciting and it's coolIt's really cool.
59:55I think people will be really excited about it.And of course sheapparently has a role of some sortin season six of Cobra Kaiwith Martin Cove.I know someone who's friends with Martin Cove.Maybe they could ask.He's a nice fellow.
01:00:11I'll see if I can get to scoop on this.But, well, you know,it's another thing. Outside commitments,that actually,if you had technicallybeen picked up by theby the fucking county andcommitted you that would be an outside commitment
01:00:30so we don't know what she's talking about there buthas anyone's has anyone's stock fallenas far well that'sand Tony con's eyes let alone oursin the women's division there like Brett Bakerthat's what I'm saying is how again this was whatthey were building around remember she was the originaltop baby face because and and I thought
01:00:52and they could have gone furtherwith it in a more professional tonebut she's a professional personshe's a medical professionalshe's educated she's purdyyou know you couldyou could run with worse than that as the faceof your women's division but then they switched her heel
01:01:13and she twisted to win for a week or twoand then potentially her natural personality came throughmaybe they were ahead of uson this, Brian, and they knewwhen we thought they were crazy for switching her heel,they said, no, you ought to know her.If you just met her, you know why we're doing this.But, you know, did she think that it was all going to last forever?
01:01:38Or why is she so hard, I wonder, to deal with?Because, you know, it's not like she's replaced Wendy Richterin the pantheon of, you know, pivotal female figuresin the wrestling business, is it?No, and that's the thing right there.She's difficult.At least some people see her as being difficult to work with.Like pulling teeth, as they used to say in the locker room back in my day.
01:02:02Like pulling teeth to work with.And again, when people talk about WW or NXT,I just don't know if the work is there with her.And I think she's been, to the best of Tony Kahn's abilities, which aren't great,she's been kind of covered up.And they've hit the weaknesses with her more than anyone else.Notice how many promos were in the back pre-tape because it may not have worked as well in front of the crowd.And her matches would fall apart often.
01:02:30Remember one time she ran to the wrong corner?Well, yeah, but that was covered up by so many of the other matches falling apart so often.Yeah, the tooth and nail match.Remember that?Oh, we instituted a rule forever.And somewhat to this day of not watching Britt Baker matches because, and big swole.but fortunately that's become easy.Easy as pie to not watch her.
01:02:53Yeah, and now every participant in that match is gone.Or, well, I guess Brett Baker's not officially gone.But that's the other thing.I bring up NXT.I don't know if they would, you know, what are you bringing in?And if she wants to go to NXT or WWE,you'll likely have to give up your dentistry completely.It's not like AEW where you, yeah, go play around with that on the side.
01:03:13Oh, well, I thought that would have to be a deal breaker then because,you know, I can't imagine Dr. Britt Baker giving up servicing other people and their dental emergencies.She's a she's a lifesaver.I'll leave it at that.Dr. Britt Baker, that's the Dr. Britt Baker news, though, Jim.Is there any other news before we move on to new news?Oh, well, there's a couple of things.Oh, are they doing something over in Uncle Dave's homeland over in Japan?
01:03:48understand the companies are getting together?I have a story here from Fightfulby Skyler RussellNJPW, pro wrestling Noah,TjPW. Wait a minute, hold on.TjPW, what is TJPW?Well, we'll figure that out momentarily because it's an honest.And more, hold press conference
01:04:15for official recognition of UnitedJapan Pro Wrestling.And there's a photo here of all theexecutives and hairdosfrom the current crop of Japanesewrestling. Do the frontoffice people have the hairdoslike the boys over there
01:04:34do now? What is going on with people'splumage over there?Some of them are front office, I would assume,but United they stand.On Monday, January 20th,new Japan pro wrestlingled a press conference and announced the official creationof a new incorporated association.
01:04:54United Japan Pro Wrestling.Hold on.The official creation of a new incorporated association.So what, it's this translator thing again, isn't it?I don't know.It says here that the guy wrote this.I don't know.Well, along with New Japan Pro Wrestling,
01:05:14promotions such as All Japan Pro Wrestling,Big Japan pro wrestlingDDT pro wrestlingDragon GateGanbarpro wrestlingG-A-N-B-A-R-EGanbar
01:05:30pro wrestlingKiyushi-R-R-R-R-R-R-RestlingNoahStardomand Tokyo JoshiPro Wrestlingwere all announcedas participants in the partnership
01:05:44Gleet and Marigol were nowhere to be seen.Gleet and Marig.Led by Chairman Sanchiro Takagi,the goal of United Japan Pro Wrestling is to, quote,support the people of Japan through pro wrestling.What?How are they going to support the people of Japanby buying tickets to see our wrestling shows?
01:06:14and show the strengths of pro wrestling to the world.Takagi also noted that the creation of UJPWwas inspired by the challenges that the pro wrestling industry facedduring COVID-19 pandemic.Not the COVID-19 pandemic?Just like, again, translation maybe.Here's the press release.A special press conference on January 20th.
01:06:40No one begins a press release like that point.A special press conference on January 20thsaw the official recognition of the United Japan Pro Wrestlingas a general incorporated association.The legal designation of the industry group strengthens governanceand enhances public transparency,as well as allowing for more freedom in the scope of UJPW,while maintaining the commercial activity is not a core goal of the association,
01:07:11which is a non-profit organization.What the...That's the problem.Too many of the Japanesepro wrestling companiesare non-profit organizations.Not-profit organizations.Yeah.
01:07:25Shared by San Shiro Takagi,the press conference explainedthe move to incorporationand its functionin UJPW's mission statementonce againto support the people of Japanthrough professional wrestling
01:07:40and show the strengths of pro wrestlingto the world.Takagi recalled the thoughtprocess behindUJPW's establishment.This is everything I just read here.Currently, and these are the same people I just readand remember, there are seven
01:07:56requirements to joinUJPW.And what would they might be, for example?An organization to be regularlyrunning an active promotionin Japan. That's rule one.Two, to be a...Wait a minute. Isn't that like if you're breathing?
01:08:13Well, that's the groundwork.To be in our organization, you have to be in business.Rule two, you have to be a legally recognized company.Rule three, you have to have at least one contracted wrestler working for you.Oh, good Lord.Rule four, you must have annual revenue of at least 50 million yen.Wait a minute, hold on here now.That sounds good, but there's a lot of them, yeah.
01:08:43Can you type that into something?All right, hold on, because I was counting what my fingers here.50 million.There's no K and million.Yen?Sounds like, again, a lot of yen,but as we know that there is a lot of the yen around.Approximately $322,000.
01:09:04Well, now, if you can make $322,000 in a yearwith only one wrestler under contract,maybe you should be in this group.Rule 5.To have been established for at least two years.Hence, no marigold or glee.Ah, they're not old enough yet.Rule 6.
01:09:25To have corporate compliance system in place for wrestlers and staff.And Rule 7.What the fuck does that mean?What?You have to have corporate compliance system in place for the wrestlers and staff.That means that there's a group of thugs making the fucking employees be compliant?I don't know, but Rule 7 to share in a vision of betterment for the pro wrestling space at large,even in competition with other members.
01:09:56Takagi also explained a roadmap for supporting members of the association to join would be announced in the near future with the key,this is totally not making sense,with the key difference in barrier to entry being the annual revenue and contracted wrestling.distinctions are waived.Wait a minute.So they took out the fucking biggest barrier?Is that what you're saying?They waived the,
01:10:22you got to make a couple hundred grand,and now just you're breathing again.Let me read that again.Takagi also explained a roadmapfor supporting members of the associationto joinwould be announced in the near futurewith the key difference in barrier to entry
01:10:39being that the annual revenueand contracted wrestler distinctions are waived.So you don't even need a wrestler at that point.Takagi went on to discuss the broader vision of UJPW.The four central goals of the group, Takagi said,started with introducing more people to professional wrestlingand elevating its status in society.In elevating social status, a core tenant will be charitable activities,
01:11:11such as the support for no time.earthquake survivors expressed in the last year.Takagi also talked about more international efforts,explaining the need to introduce the world to the unique cultureof Japanese professional wrestling.World?Meet Japanese wrestling.Japanese wrestling, meet world.
01:11:31And using this as the basis to drive tourism to Japan.Takagi's fourth goal was to expand the marketplace of professional wrestling in Japan,with a vision to grow the entire.industry to double its current size within the next decade.Citing 1954as the beginning of the current era of professional wrestling in Japanin the form of J.WA under Ricky Dozan,Takagi discussed a vision of, quote,
01:12:03supporting the people of Japan as we approach pro wrestling centennial.Wait a minute, in 30 years.we got 30 years to do this.Well, they got a lot of time to help society.That's right.Takagi closed by discussing the immediate goals for the group,which will see further strengthening in regular meetings with the Japanese government,as well as collaboration between member organizations on policies for health and safety of wrestlers.
01:12:34We end with a quote from Takagi.We look forward to your support and understanding in our ongoing mission.And there it is.A new day, a new face of Japanese wrestling.Obviously an exclusive organization to get into.You have to meet strict high parameters to be a part of this.You can't join unless you have 50 million yen.Oh, fuck, I only have 10.
01:13:01Listen, we'll make an exception.You can join.Do you have any wrestlers?I'm looking for someone.Just join.Just join.We'll get you in.We'll give you a territory.
01:13:11You can work, Yokohama.This is like the NWA, isn't it?Oh, my God.Except there are no territories.Everyone's just running the same building over and over and over again.Who's running the show today?I don't know, but we got to go see it to support the world.But the changing face of Japanese wrestling and the idea that this current form of Japanese wrestling
01:13:32is what Japan should be using to show the rest of the world to boost tourismand cause the world to be better through the love of Japanese.I don't know what the hell is in.I don't actually knowthere was a lot ofthere was a lot of discussionthere about what they want to do but not a lotof details about how they're
01:13:52actually going to achieve those ends ordoes that mean that all the talentfrom thesevarious companies canwork on each other showsor they can trade or whatever. Why wouldNew Japan particularly want to work withpeople
01:14:08all the way down to Ganberry andKiyushiwhat are they actually going to do?Or is this a board?Do they have some governmental heat?They said meeting with government officials.Generally, wrestling promoters don't want to meet with government officials,and it's not under pleasant circumstances when they do,
01:14:34and they don't want to attract attention.Is there some issue that they think they can all unite and address?Mr. Prime Minister, please take this.briefcase. Please get Nippon TV to give us back a primetime show. We need primetime back. No, whatthey're going to do? I don't know what the hell this is. I think, unfortunately,Japanese pro wrestling is in a very sorry state, and there's a variety of reasons for it. And certainly,they don't have the foreign talent that they used to over there, because everyone's locked up to acontract here in the States. And a lot of the guys they get now would have been in the
01:15:12the junior heavyweight division back in the day.Now they're the heavyweights.And there's very few people to take seriously.It seems like people creating American-style personas,or at least what they perceive them to be.And nothing really seems to be connected.And they're not making new stars.If anything, New Japan needs talent.
01:15:32That Tokyo Dome show we read the results for is everyone that was on the show10 years ago.Just older and less able to move.So you're saying it basically.the Japanese wrestling scene is almost exactly like the American wrestling scene,except that the WWE is kind of bubbling up above the fray and minting money.I think WWE is to facial hair, what Japanese pro wrestling is, to the buffant.I'm going to have to draw some kind of diagram on that, the facial hair and the buff.
01:16:05Well, you know, I'll tell you, folks, if you think that they ought to get in another kind of business,we got a business for them.Brian, would you like to know what kind of business I think the people ought to get into?I certainly would.I don't even know.Yes.The Shopify business.Yes.
01:16:20Because if you get in business with Shopify, you know what's going to happen.Right off the bat, you're going to hear that cash register.Do the children know what a cash register is, Brian?Do they understand that when you heard that sound back when you were in a brick and mortar storeand you had a buffon hairdo and facial hair?you were servicing the customers yourself,that every time you heard something like that,it meant that somebody had given you money.
01:16:49And for that, you were eternally gratefulbecause elsewise you'd be out on the streetor suffering under an alcoholic husbandwho mistreats you and gambles and steals things.I mean, you know, you could be Mrs. Wheelerat Wheeler's ready to wearand be a kindly old lady with a fucking carbuncle on your neck.But when you heard that sound,
01:17:10you knew that you were making money and you were going to live another day and that's what you need to think about now folks we need to start figuring about how to make some money not only around the country but around the world and that's what shopify is and does for you they're around the world they're all over the place they cover the globe thanks to the interwebs that they're all connected to and here's all you got to do is you've got to take an idea or a product or a service or something that you'vewant to sell. Maybe it's sand on the beach in Hawaii or ice blocks for igloos in Alaska,whatever it may be. And you go to Shopify and they will take your idea and they will sell yourstuff and you will hear that sound. Boom. And then you will be living on a Pacific Island with yourfeet up sipping a Mai Tai or a margarita. Or possibly while you've got Margaret tied up, you'll have timefor yourself. And the best time to start your new business is right now before everybody elseto the world loses all their money. They've got money now. You want to take it from them.And Shopify makes it simple to create your brand open for business, get your first sale.
01:18:27They can get your store up and running thousands of customizable templates with no codingor design skills required absolutely no codes. Fuck that type of thing. We trust people here.We don't have to put our communications in secret codeand lock it up like it's a government secret.They're going to take your information and just put it everywhere,out where people can see it so they can come and buy things from you.Again, the information that you want public,you choose what information is public with Shopify.
01:18:59Well, they're going to take all the public information.They check the walls in restrooms at truck stops.They get everything that's out in public.and then they just put it out there for the world to seeand all you need to do is drag and dropwell it'll be a drag if you get dropped by Shopifybecause they're going to make you a fortuneyou're going to be beholden to them
01:19:20because they're powerful social media toolslet you connect all your channelsto create shopable postsand help you sell everywhere people scrollsomebody's going to be looking at their computeror their phone and they're going to be reading somethingon a website and all of a sudden, boom, up pops your face saying, hey, buy my shit,or I'll get off this screen.
01:19:43That's not the way it works.It's a passive, so it doesn't bother anyone experience.No, everybody's going to have you saying, spend your money with me and I'll get off of your screen.They're going to put you up everywhere because they got all the tools to connect with everybody'schannel, and they'll hold those channels hostage.Shopify makes it easy to manage your growing business.they'll take care of it, stay out of their way.And what happens if you don't act now?
01:20:11Will you regret it to your dying day?What if somebody beat you to the idea that you hadthat could make a million dollars?Such as, you know, Brian, I had an idea once for a universal solvent,but I just couldn't figure out what to put it in.Well, Shopify can help you fix all of these thingsand you'll be selling stuff.Boom, regularly.
01:20:36For your business to be established in 2025 or become profitable if you've just been a spinthrift and a waste drill up until now, sign up for your $1 a month trial period at Shopify.com slash JCE.That's all lowercase now, JCE in lowercase to get the wink wink, the deal, $1 a month trial period.It's a dollar for how bad can they be if they were rotten?Shopify.com.slash JCEto start selling with Shopifytoday.You know, Brian, that's a word
01:21:15once you hear it, you can never forget it.Shopify.It's right on the tip of everybody's tongue.Speaking of tongue tips,should we talk about the...Where are you going here?Well, the Smackdown, San Diego sellout.That's a tongue twister, if not a tongue tip.
01:21:33They were in San Diego.They were sold out for Smackdown.did it suck?That's what we're here to find out, right?I guess that's what we already would know,and we're here to reinforce it.Well, no, no, we're here to find out if it's up.We're going to give this thing a day in court.
01:21:54We're going to present the pros, Nikons.Okay.And let the chips fall where they may behind the Buffalo.In this case, it'll be the Nikons, but yes.Yes, we're going to go over the pros, the people on the roster,cons, the people in the office, andI guess that meansthe fans are the chips that are falling where they
01:22:14may. So onthis program, again,this, the production,the announcers this timewalked into the arenawhile oldwhat's his name, the Italian fella,Tessatori, was
01:22:30talking about, theItalian fella was talking about thehistory of the arena and things thathad gone on there, theyou know, the history of the place,and then they billboarded the show in the midst of the sea of people.I mean, it looks like a happening.They're the groovy hep cats that are really with it, Brian,
01:22:50on this program from a television standpoint, don't you think?And as far as being in the arena,that's what fans love, the idea that you're near anything happening.So all of a sudden, they're doing interviews in the crowd.You have Jay Uso and other people coming through the crowd.Now the announcers are coming through the crowd.Yeah, everybody's in the crowd.You ought to see some of the things they did in the crowd back when I was a fan.
01:23:12I'll tell you what, especially that that's back when you wanted a small house,so there wouldn't be as many people up in the back row of general admission.But I digress.So then, again, the entrance of Ray Mysterio.They're in San Diego.He's a hometown hero, the 619.And he declared for the Royal Rumble.And, of course, you know, got cheers for.
01:23:38it and reminded everybody in 2006 he came in at number two and he won the thing.Not reminding people that was 19 years ago, but, you know, and in at WrestleMania,he became the World Heavyweight Champion.And Vince was cursing under his breath the whole time.Yeah, he probably didn't like that.But he put over the competition, but, you know, when he won in 06, he did it for a friendand the people started chanting Eddie, Eddie, because they're, they're, they'rewith it, they understand what's going on here.
01:24:10That really is incredible, though, when you really think about how long ago it was that Eddie passed,it's 20 years.Like, it wasn't like in the 80s people were chanting for, you know, Yukon Eric or anything.Yeah, well.Not to compare the two guys, but just there weren't that many that you could think of guys thatjust died and the...But, you know, well, what did we talk about earlier in the program?The difference is home video and the ability to record things and see things.
01:24:38when you want to and, you know, the mass availability of them in the documentaries.And besides the fact that they're, you know, in San Diego, which is Ray Mysterio's hometown,if they're fans of Mysterio, they'd be more than apt to know about his connection with Eddie.But all these fans can keep up with the history of everything from the attitude era.And then the 80s, they've seen enough that they think they know.and then everything's a mysteryfrom that point further back.But anyway, the point is
01:25:12Ray Mysterio's over this crowd.And then here comes Owens.Kevin Owens with the winged eagle beltand did you see what his shirt saidor did you jot it down?I saw what it said.I didn't put the exact order.The Canadian son of a security salesman or something?
01:25:30The Canadian dream,the son of a security systems technician.he's justbut they'vehe's got to havethat he's got to have thattongue and cheek businessand anything he does
01:25:44but they've hit onhis personalitywhere it doesn't make itphony and silly it just makes ityou know he's oddso I kudos to themand his promo was that herespected Ray more than anybody
01:26:00but since Kevinis the true rightfulW.W.E champion, and he's never faced Ray one-on-one.He wants Ray to win the Royal Rumble so that he can pick Kevin Owensas the champion that he faces at WrestleMania, and they'll be in the mainevent and blah.And Ray says, I love competition, but you're not the champ.It's Cody.
01:26:24But if I go on to win the Rumble, then this is what he, this was Ray's line.If I go on to win the Rumble and you win, I'd be glad to face you forthe title.There was something in there that he left outa word or something, butwhat to fuck? They're still getting it.And Kevin's mad because he is the championand he starts yelling at Ray.
01:26:48And Ray say, you're delusional. You remind me ofDominic. Well, that was too much for him. He'scrossed the line now. When you compare somebody toDominic Mysterio naturally,Owen swings the belt, Ray ducks, they get in a fight.And Owens bailed.And of course, they come back, you know, later on in the back,and Aldous gives Ray a match with Owens tonight since they've never wrestled.
01:27:15And then they start the story that they're teasing through the thingwhere Cody comes in and says, I'm not, I'm sorry I wasn't out there for you.I was back with medical trying to get cleared.I couldn't get the doctor's finger out of my ass in time to,But he got fully cleared and Aldus now announces that he needs Cody and Owens to sign an addendum to the contract for their title match.And Cody says, I'll sign it when Owen signs it.So now they're starting that for later on in the program.But Ray Mysterio, good baby face promo, receptive and large crowd.
01:27:58And, you know, Owens is entertainingly bat shit at this point.without being too over the toplike remember when he was losing his temperevery five seconds as a baby facelet's just fight let's just fightthis is a littlebetteryeah it's been interesting
01:28:16especially when you think about where it goes on Mondayand beyond thatwhat do you think of the ideathey've really made it something now thatit's promo worthy to come out thereand announce that you'vedeclared yourself eligiblehow do they put it
01:28:33They declare for the Royal Rumble.I'm declaring for the Royal Rumble.Of course, now, you know, when it gets up to a week out,they're like, well, fuck, you were indecisive before now,or I'm surprised they didn't book you in another matchsince you waited to make that decision.But it makes it mean something.It's a big match.
01:28:55It's a big deal.It's in a stadium in front of 50,000 people,and everybody wants to get the shot at the title.that's the whole logic of the thing.That's why they started doing this to begin with.They're just doing it better nowwith building the rumble and et cetera.Let's come back to the Owens and Mysterio match
01:29:16because that keeps a chronological orderand then we will digress.But they head at the top of the 10 o'clock hour.That's where they had Owens and Mysterioand again they got the 619 chanceand Owens was working like a heel.He's taking his time.He's working spots.
01:29:36He gets the heat.Ray fights back.It's a standard formula with Mysterio.And then finally, Ray hits the 619, which everybody wants to see, goes to the top,and Owens gets up and pushes the referee into the ropes,which makes Ray crotch himself on the rope,and then Owens hit him with the power bomb boom, one, two, three.and but of course then as we know the afterbirth is the story
01:30:07where Owens then shakes Ray Mysterio's handhe's like he's going to be all gracious and then he gives him the bootand goes for the packaged pile driver but here comes Codybecause he's out of the doctor's office and they get in a fightand the referees and the agents and the frantic pull apartover the announced desk and boom boom and hischaos at ringside and they go to the break and when they come back there's aldous and cody in theback and aldous said enough is enough at saturday night's main event because now owens by the way is
01:30:42previously said he ain't going to sign a thing till cody does cody same thing so at saturday night'smain event you're going to hand over these belts and you're going to sign the amended contractand sean michael's is going to be the one moderating the contract signing this shit writes itselfSean Michaels will be the person to make sure that the title match gets in the ring and comes off without a hitch.Is that the first time that those English words have ever been uttered in that order before, Brian?That would be funny when they do the segment if he just turns to Owens and says,Take the bell, go home.Lose your smile.
01:31:28So, but that happened there.your thoughts on this whole issue before we go backwards in time.I like it. You know what? They've made me interested in Kevin Owens again the last few weeksafter I got really tired of him. It kind of coincided with him stealing theversion of the wing belt they're using because obviously Mr. Perfect destroyed the originalone in 1990. No, this is good stuff. And I like the idea that people are declaring for theRumble. Top stars, legends, because I don't think you could say raise one of the top stars anymorejust because of age and everything.
01:32:01Right.But one of the legends,one of the living legends of,uh,WWE,good opening to the show.Well,but then a lot of the rest of the program
01:32:12was after the originalRay and Owen's promo,we got Bianca and Naomi talking in the back.We got Naomi and Bianca wrestling the refrigerator and candy.We got a Bailey promo.We got Mia Yem and B-Fab talking to Piper and Chelsea.And then later on, we got Piper versus B-Fab or K-Fabe or whatever.Some people are not natural workers.
01:32:48And they may be somewhat athletic in a volleyball or cheerleading way,so their matches look like awkward dance routines.and oldK Fabe here gives that a whole new meaning.She makes the AEW women's roster look like Ria Ripley.It's just...And then we got Bailey and Tiffyfor the last 20 minutes of the program,
01:33:16so it was kind of like an episode of wow.We got Jimmy Uso against Carmelo,which Fatu and...Tama continued to harass Jimmy at and thenwe got to bloodlinein the ring interview because afterJimmy basicallyfucking
01:33:43got disqualifiedCarmelo got disqualified against Jimmy whenFattu and Tama interferedand then they laid out both of themand Solo came out in a redjacket that looked like he was a matri-Dat a fucking 60s supper cluband
01:34:04he was getting booed out of the arenaand as he was tryingto talk and trying to talk they wouldn't stop booingthey wouldn't stop doing and finally soloquit trying to speak and just walked out of the ring and leftthrough the crowd and the announcers weretrying to reinforce the idea well he's lost his confidenceand he's not in control anymore
01:34:28And then Fatu picked up the microphone and cut the promo.He's tired of the hate and the disrespect.I don't give a damn if you cheer us or boo us, but you will respect us.And I'm just getting started.Of course, then Thomas standing back there, can you say we?You bring me into it.And then LA night's music hits.And he hit the ring and jumped both of them and started wailing on him.
01:34:56And then they stopped him.and they started beating on him,and then they played more music.And here came Brown Strongman.We haven't seen him since the last time he came backfrom when we hadn't seen him.Braun Stromen, for those of you that weren't here,the last time we saw him,
01:35:12which was the last time he came backfrom the previous time we saw him.That's right.And he took out Tamaand had a face off with Fattuand the people were into it.They wanted to see the two bulls,and Tama pulled Fattu out
01:35:27and it'll have to take place another day.Yeah, they announced it already.Saturday night's main event.I'm looking forward to that one.Well, that's right.They did announce it, didn't they?It'll be that's another day.It'll be Saturday.
01:35:40Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.Saturday nights all right.You know what they should have done.They should have got the music.Wouldn't that be funny?They should have done.They should just say, fuck it.Because what Elton John's going to say,
01:35:52okay, I'd rather this fucking off-friend showin front of 300,000 peoplehas my... Actually, that may raise his antenna.It's probably just right now with AEW, it's just one of many licensing deals.If all of a sudden, WWE tried to swoop in, then it's like, wait a minute, what's going on here?Why are all the wrestling companies trying to get my music?Will they take Crocodile Rock?Well, as a matter of fact, maybe that's what Tony could switch to.
01:36:20He could get Crocodile Rock and...I was thinking more Goodbye Yellow Brick Road for...I don't know.Anyway, and yeah, and that was pretty much Smackdown, wasn't it?Bob Euker.They had a package on Bob Euker.Were you a Bob Euker fan, Brian?Absolutely.
01:36:40100% not really from baseball because I didn't watch Milwaukee Brewer gamesor listen to them here in New York.And when I saw them, it was back in the day on WGN, it was the Cubs feed.But as a personality, when I was a kid, he was on Mr. Velvadier, on ABC, which Ito watch.And he was in Major League, which is the best baseball movie ever made.And he had just memorable line after memorable line.And his talk show appearances going back years later, because I never saw the original
01:37:11airings.Well, he's incredible.He's funny.And, yeah, I was a fan of his.That's the thing is, I knew him, but not from baseball, because he, in the 70s, he wasalways on the Tonight Show.and he was always on Johnny Carsonand Johnny would introduce him here
01:37:31Mr. Baseball Bob Eukerand because I didn't know anything about baseballand didn't give a shit it was a while before I realizedthat they were making fun of him with the Mr. Baseballbecause that was his gimmickthat he was one of the worst players in the leaguebut then he became a broadcasterand an announcer and actor and icon and all that stuff
01:37:52he leaned into it that was the smearly. He leaned into it.That was the smart thing.He leaned into it and developed lines.He developed bits about how bad a player he was.It was brilliant.And as a kid, my dad taped WrestleMania 3.So for whatever reason, two years later, when I became a wrestling fan, I had that video.And that event always has a special place in my heart.
01:38:15It's WrestleMania 3, Hogan Andre.They didn't have the celebrity power of a WrestleMania 1 or just theballs to the wall.Anyone who's even close to a celebrityget them of WrestleMania 2.They had Herband the old-fashioned Burger Ladyand G. Gordon Lady.
01:38:35That's right.The Herb from Burger Kingand the fucking, where's the beef woman?I mean, it was just the shit show of celebrities.They only had a couplefor WrestleMania 3. Samantha Fox dropped out.Mary Hartfrom Entertainment Tonight
01:38:51and Bob Yookerand Bob Yucer was perfect.They had him on commentary.He was sitting there at Monsoon and Ventura.It was like he was a natural.Was the build to that,the famous clip where Andre is choking himand his hand is so huge.
01:39:08Oh, no. That's WrestleMania 4.That's the next year.They brought him back.They brought him back the next year.And that was for the tournament.And they did that bit with Andre where you,and you can tell just by his faceas Andre's choking him back and forth.
01:39:21his face kind of blows up like harpo marks or soupy sales he's leaning into it i mean that's what madeit cool he was someone who didn't look down on wrestling he said if i'm here i'll make it memorablewell we we uh send our sympathies out to the friends and fans and fam i don't know he was 90 years olddoes he have any family left maybe he's got some offspring but he's almost a hundred years oldso he's lived a long full life even though he was a rotten baseball playAnd he worked until the last season.He was still commentating when the Mets played the Brewers in the playoffs.Well, I wish he'd have done better to where he could have retired earlier.
01:40:01I don't think that's...Maybe enjoy his golden years.I think he loved it.I think he loved what he did.That's baseball.You'd have to love doing something to when you're 89 years old to go and fucking inclementweather and be around people and fucking suffer their stupidity.Plus it's the groupies.
01:40:21well that's true i understand he was quite a uh a ladies manif it could happen for hugh hefner it could happen for bob yuker couldn't itwell i mean money you know celebrity what well what do you think the idea the were the odds onbob yuker uh betting on the baseball games is he a secret pete rose or was he clean of thistype of thing i think he's a hundred percent clean there's never even been an allegation iI don't know why you decided.Now is the time to accuse the late.Kindly old non-generalian.
01:40:55That's right.Well, I'm wondering if you ever better because, you know, that would,and he knew a lot about it, so that would be a temptation because it's so easy nowto place your wagers on the baseball or the football or the basketball or whateversport is being played at that particular time.Now that we've got the ease and convenience of our friends at the Draft King's sports book.You know, they're an official sports betting partner of the NFL.That means that the NFL, much like the, you know, the Treasury Department ensures your deposits at federally funded loaning institutions up to a certain amount of money.
01:41:36That's not what that means.They don't insure anything.Well, being an official partner, I would think that would mean, hey, if our friends over here at Draft Kings, if they take your money, we'll go get it back for you.I thought that was how they worked hand in hand.WW is not paying TNA's debts.Well, but TNA has so many.But you know, scoring touchdowns is key to winning in the playoffs,and it's also key to winning at Draft Kings.
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01:42:21I don't even know why that would be a statistic that anyone would look for.Well, there used to be a thing going on here at my neighborhood Applebeast,but the DEA cracked down.If you're ready to place your first bet, try bet on something simple,like whether or not I will ever do a straight commercialor a player to score six.You can go to the Draft King's Sportsbook app and make your pick.If you want to score with a football player,
01:42:46the people at Draft Kings can set you up.especially if you're a female, but, you know, we're not ruling out anything here.We are ruling out that they are going to be setting up anyone with anyone.It's a tight economy. You've got to do what you can.It's an honest economy. Don't tell people they're going to be getting free dates that may cause problems.Well, I didn't say free. And new Drap Kings customers can bet $5 to get $200 in bonus bets instantly.So right there, boom, they're, they're hooking you. You spend $5, they're going to give you $200.You'll be eternally grateful to them.
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01:46:46Go through the archive, 605 pod.com.The Mothership.Sounds like the funeral march of a marionette.could you play Alfred Hitchcock?I said Alfred Hitchcock, not Sparky Anderson.Oh.All right.We'll get there.
01:47:20We'll get there.Hopefully I won't be on that trip with you.All right.Hey.For Raw on the Netflix, January the 20th,they were in Dallas, Texas,at the American Airlines Arena, not really,Union Arena.
01:47:37That's gone by the waysidewith the big new building.15,572, another sellout.They were sold out inSan Jose the other nightfor Smackdown, sold out for Rawin Dallas on Monday.And again, you know,
01:47:56the show comes on the air nowwith the Netflix presentation.They've got great graphics, the crowd shots,the arena lighting isscaled up, everything looks big, and you see all those fucking people.Andpassed a quick thing where during the walk-in of the talent,the refrigerator, she attacked
01:48:20Ria Ripley and beat her up on the walk-in, but then they basicallyjust go into the arena and Jay Uso, who comes inin the waving, and the yeeding, and the whole placeis going nuts or neats.and needs over the yeatsIt would be nutsYou don't change the other wordsIt's not like speaking of Karnie
01:48:42Well, I'll change any goddamn wordAbout my nuts I want toThey're my nutsIt's not Karnie hereFucking Riggie MortonEvery once in a whileA new guy would be sitting in the locker roomAnd Riggie'd be sitting there next to him
01:48:56And Robert Gibson would walk upAnd Ricky'd look up and sayHey Robert, show so-and-so, you're nutsAnd Robert would lean downAnd put his thumbs in his earand go, blah, la la.But anyway, so...The innocent old days of pro wrestling.
01:49:13I watched this program in a few piecesbecause now they're not on real television anymore.They've taken a bribe to go over to the streaming.And on Monday night, I was going to try to watch it livebecause, as I believe I've mentioned,my trials and tribulations with,not only is there no on-screen fast-forward abilitythat I've been able to determine on this Netflix business.
01:49:35So I don't know how people find where they're fucking...going to, but also on the TV room television.I can't figure out how to do most of it at all on that remote.So I didn't want to spend all morning on Tuesday morning in the bedroom using that TVto try to skip through a lot of this shit.So instead, I was trying to watch it live again, and I figure, well, if I start it later on,I can skip the commercials.But when I started it like at 8.30, it was already goddamn, it didn't start from the
01:50:07beginning. It started right there and where it was. So I saw the last hour and a half and then I wentback to the following morning and I found the first half hour. Well, you have that option. You have theoption to go to it live or start from the beginning. Well, it's all so complicated. Push the button.On TV, it's just you got your cable remote, you hit your DVR and you hit the thing and itstarts right from scratch. There's so many, just, there's hoops you have to jump through.here on this streaming stuff, Brian.It's very unwieldy.Well, it's getting easier by the day, so that's a good thing.
01:50:46Oh, man. Easier for you to say.Because I ended up watching it last night and going back and watching a couple things today,and today, when I went back and watched it, no commercials.Fast-forwarded through it and rewound it, no commercials.Well, that's what I was trying for.But then later on, when I paused it to go get something else to eat and, and,attend little Harley Quinn's needs.Then I started missing commercials later on,
01:51:12but that was when I watched the last part of the show first.But we're talking about the first part of the show now, right?Yes, because we're going in the order of the show,not in the order you watched it.Yes, well, that's what I was trying to do,till you interrupted me.But this is your show.Well, that's...
01:51:29Remember that.So anyway, Jay Huso was out there,and all he has to do is do the entrance,and they're going crazy.and as soon as he started to talk,boom, here came Gunther.And, you know, and now they're booing again.Nobody has to even do anything.
01:51:49And the building's full, and they're fucking screaming.And Gunther comes out with a suit and no socks.What a heel.And they're promoing their match at Saturday night's main event,which was set up basically because Jay wants the world title.And Gunther has disrescently.expected him.He laughed at him.
01:52:09Are you serious?And he doesn't consider Jayany competition.And again, Gunther, what a heel.He says, you know, you reallyare a funny little man.Acting like the companymascot for all these fans
01:52:26here.He's got an amazing way with phrases,doesn't he, Brian?And go ahead.He's used it more than once now.Well, that's becauseit fits.And then he said,
01:52:42when your cousin Roman whistlesor Jimmy needs youor Sammy or Cody,you're a useful idiot.But I'm going to expose you as a flashin the pan.This is the way you knock a baby face.You don't come out there
01:52:58and you talk about all the shitthat's really the matter with him.How that he looks like afuckingconcentrationcamp survivor if he really does or how heyou know is old if he really is or how the people don't give a shitabout him if they really don't
01:53:18Gunther looks down at Jay because he's one of the common peoplehe's helpful to his friends he's you know he's all thesefans you like to yeat and wave you're just a flashin the past that's the way you knock the baby fae you don't say your motheris a Canadian call girland your father sold secrets to the Nazis or whatever.And the fans are yeating like crazy at this.And then Jay says, hey, again, you're telling the truth, dog.
01:53:53I am the mascot, but this is my team.He points the fans and they start coming up.And he turns all that stuff around to get the fans behind him.So I'm going to do this for them.You're going to respect me because I represent.at them, boom, it's perfect.And Jay said, you're going to respect me toobecause only one of us
01:54:14ever main event at WrestleManiaand it wasn't you.And that's when Gunther's head all he had it.Now that's just, again, a bridge too far.And boom, Gunther jumps him,but Jay turns it around, hits him with a super kick,Gunther rolls out,Jay grabs the belt, lays it down,
01:54:36dares Gunther to get it,Goethe's like he wants to get up thereand then he reaches in and grabs it and takes off real quick.Again, Jay didn't have to talk, which is very much, which is always a plus.Gunther's a great heel.The people are into this issue like everything else,and they did enough to tease the people to watch the match on Saturday.So, you know, it's not rocket surgery.
01:55:07or brain science,but they keep doing it betterthan they have in a long timeand I would say better than the other guys are,but the other guys aren't doing it at all.Your thoughts, young Brian.Jay Uso excels in scenes.That's really what it is.
01:55:24He excels in the scenes he has.Not really looking forward to the match necessarily.I think Gunther can corral him if anybody can.While the Yeats stuff is just, it's nonstop,if you listen to what he's saying and how intense he getsJay Uso is still great in these segmentsand we'll see how Saturday night's main eventis an interesting lineup this time
01:55:44Ah, you sound like Mr. Burns thererubbing your hands together Saturday night'smain event is an interesting lineup this timeWhy do we let's talk about thatWell we'll talk about something else in a minuteBut anyway then we moved along in RawNew Day was in the back harassing JBLA new day are heels now and more on that here shortly
01:56:08because we had to see Bailey and the refrigerator argue againand be introduced to some professional bull ridersat ringside.Brian, we were on top of that son of a bitch.How did we know?We didn't want to come out and just overtly say it,but there was a reason why all of a suddenwe were covering bull riding here on the show.
01:56:29WWE, you got a problem.We know everything you're doing.We've got a mole all the way at the time.And you'll never figure out who he is.Not only is he a mole, but he's a bull mole.That's right, the worst kind of mole.Can't stop him.You know, I swear to God, if I'm lying, I'm flying,
01:56:47and my feet ain't left the ground.Now that some of the snow and ice have melted in the backyardright outside the back door that gets all the sun,even though it's still been cold, we've got a bare areaand a goddamn mole got stuck under the iceand could not get through itand has gone everywherein a panic
01:57:08all around our sitting arearight up next to the back dooraround the littlefire pit thingit's just every fucking wherehe couldn't get outwhen I was a kidthere was a cheap
01:57:22Sesame Street ripoff showon Nickelodeon called Pinwheellike is that a Burton Erniethey had plus and minuslike it was just the cheapestripoff wannabe Sesame Streetbut it was endearing in somebizarre way because I don't have to watch it anymore.
01:57:36And they had a character, Molly the Mole.And at the same time, kind of had this, you know, unfortunate-looking, you know,not that she was like the form, but she was just not an attractive woman across theroom.She had an unfortunate face.My father started calling her Molly the Mole.The Mole?Well, anyway, where were we going with that?
01:58:02With Molly the Mole.Molly, well, the mole couldn't get outand Molly couldn't get back in.But now we're back to the match.So Ray Mysterio,he's on everything now suddenly.He's on, is he part of the transfer portal?Or are they just excited to have Ray on the show?
01:58:20But he had a single match with Kofi Kingstonwith JBL on color.And I never thought I would say this.I like the new day.this is this it's a new day for the new daythey came out and they said cut that musicand turn those lights off we didn't have to see thebootios and the pancakes
01:58:44they're dressed in street clothes the whole arenais booing the shit out of themand chanting new day sucksand Woods gave cofithe big introductionand the fans were into itand cofi's he'swrestling in jeans and tennis shoes
01:59:03and they're full heelsand we canno trombonessoagain a typical Ray Mysteriomatch in that he shinesa bit at the beginning and then he likes tohe likes to have the heel
01:59:20cut him off where he can fight from underneathand get sympathyon this one did you see Kofi go for the power bomband they were going to do a Rana spotand he lost him on the floorYou know, I ended up not watching this match.Oh, and this was one of the highlights.Not this move, but this match, but
01:59:38he went to power bombor pick up Ray for a power bomb.They're on the floor, and they're going to do the spotwhere Ray does the Rana out of it, blah, blah, blah.But when Kofi went to pull him up,he lost his grip and lost him,and Ray did kind of like a front somersaultlanded back first on the goddamn floor.
01:59:59and it wasn't a big enough bump that, you know, it would kill you,although I'm glad it wasn't head first, but nobody panicked.They didn't immediately go right back to the same thing.Kofi stalled and did a couple of basic things.And then they got in a different place and kind of went back to itand Ray Hurric and rounded him into the stairs.And that was their break spot.But nobody got hurt and nobody panicked.
02:00:26And then they came back from the break,had a good match.And Ray went for the619 and Woods tripped him.And the referee kicked Woods out ofringside. And then Ray did the 619.And went for the splash, but Kofi brought his kneesup, got a two count.
02:00:47And Kofi went for something, but Ray got a quick roll-upone, two, three. Andthen Woods came back out and they got some heat on Rayuntil here came the Lucha faces.What,whoever the fuck they areJoaquin andJoaquin was walking and Randy was running
02:01:05but thenthe new daybailed out and then came back and jumpedone face real quick and then ran outso I'm liking the new day as heelsit's it's differentand boy howdy was it time for it rightI mean and you didn't watch them
02:01:25you're prejudicedBrian against the new daybecause they used to like pancakes and you're a dirty pancakeite.Well, I don't know about that, but no, I saw the promo they did in the back with JBL and I was like, man, this sucks.They're still talking in such a fake way and I don't know.I didn't like that.So I said, I'm not watching this match.Well, baby steps, baby steps.
02:01:46They got old habits die hard and most nuns can't afford their first habit.All righty then, moving on, Sammy Zane, happy to find out he's a,officially in the Royal Rumble,did the big in-ring promo,and by the way, now we're into the part where I was watchinglive as it happened. Actually, it wasn't live. I'dstarted late, so that was live.It's just, it was about 8.40 or so in the night.
02:02:23And now I'm in the bedroom, and I'm laying therewith my pad, Brian. You can envision me laying in bed with mynotepad and my pen.Intently watching this program in a supine position,I'm going to start getting sleepy because it's almost 9 o'clock.So some of my recollections may be hazy,and as I'm looking at some of these notes,it kind of looks like when Jerry Seinfeld wrote down a joke
02:02:54that he woke up in the middle of the nightand wrote it down so he wouldn't forget it,and now he can't read it.But we'll soldier on.okay well you didn't watch the segment no I watched them I'm just saying sometimes my notes are a littleyou know I was nodding sometimes and my notes are a little incoherent so you know there was sometimesI would what happened that type of thing but anyway so Sammy's in the ring and he declares for theroyal rumble and he does a great baby face promo about a wanting the world heavyweight championship
02:03:31and blah, blah, blah.And again, he can talk.And he's over as that nice guy,the Mick Foley, that tries to get everybody togetherand, you know, sees the best in everybodyand always tries to be the voice of reason.And they love him.And in Owens' music plays.
02:03:54And the place comes up because now here comes this dickhead,but most of them know,because they've had such a checkered historythat they're friends and a blah, blah, blah.It's not like they've tried to hide the factthat they've been longtime lifelong friends.So Owen said,I'm not going to get mad at you, Sammy,
02:04:16because it's not the same as when Cody teamed upwith Roman Raines,because you've forgiven me,you forgive others, you forgive everybody,you're a good person.And I believe that Sammy,that you're going to win the wrong.Royal Rumble and he gets all fired up.
02:04:35Because then he says,I remember what he did on Smackdown.You know, this is the same fucking thing.Win the Royal Rumble and choose me.Well, we could accomplish all we ever dreamed ofto main event WrestleMania for the W.W.E. title,you win the Rumble.And then you pick me and I walk out there with the W.W.E.
02:04:55heavyweight title.Blah, blah, blah.you know, all you got to do, you win the rumbleand I've got your backand I know that when I go for the WWE titlethat I know you'll have my back.If I need you, I know you'll be there.And Sammy's looking at him and like,
02:05:16uh, so basically Kevin says,oh yes, we can main event WrestleMania for the title.All you got to do is win the rumbleand it help me win the belt Saturday night at the main event.And then he walks out.and leave Sammy standing there without having answered himbecause Sammy's like,homo,
02:05:34homina,but again,this is,now he's putting his friends in awkward positionsand everybody wants to win the rumble.And Owens has an issue with Cody,but now because Sammy's probably not going to help him,that means that he's going to have an issue with Sammy,
02:05:54but later on, Sammy's going to have an issue with Seth.Because of,this is great shitthis is some Leo Garibaldilevel shit here isn't it?Oh maybe beyond thatit's interesting because if they're going to settleeverything with Cody and Owens for the belts
02:06:09the belt that wasn't thereuntil all of a sudden he stole itI always said it the one thing I expect these two to getis their match at WrestleMania at some pointis this the yearthat we get Owens versus Sammy at WrestleMania?Well they ain't getting any youngerYeah, you have to want them.
02:06:27I mean, they're teasing something here,and unless Owens is going to win the title from Cody,and I do not see that happening.Yeah.I don't know.They're teasing something.Could maybe somehow something is,I'm sure that Owens is going to get offended at Sammy,
02:06:44and that maybe costs Sammy the Royal Rumble.Sammy's not going to help him beat Cody.He said, you know, you watch my back,because I'm going to watch yours.So that means if Owens is not watching Sammy's back correctly in the Rumble,maybe Owens gets even with Sammy in the Rumble,and then, well, there you go, and now we got to go to Rasselmania.But then we actually had some more wrestling,
02:07:11The Refrigerator against Bailey.For fucking ever.It was like Bailey was trying to work with a small two-bedroom condo.And I congratulate Bailey for,for going this long and getting this much out of herand not getting hurt,but this awkward parade float.I just, that long, I can't,
02:07:36I zoned out.I nodded off.Refridge, one with the bonsai, one, two, three.And then it picked up because Ria Ripley came out,was all over the refrigerator,and they had a big pull apart with agents and security.Boy, at least when I was an agent,I never had to run out and break anything up.
02:07:56people have thought, well, fuck what the fuck's Cornyette doing out there?He's going to fuck somebody.And they went all over ringside and the people are chanting, mommy, mommy, what do you mean?What's about?I'm a heel.I'm a heel.That's why they would think that.Not in a biblical sense.
02:08:14So they say what Paterson was running out there.Oh, he was trying to fuck somebody.Yeah, that was in a more biblical sense.But, you know, when you get fucked in a biblical sense, that's when you know you've beenfucked.but finally Rhea challenged the refrigerator for Saturday night's main event.So five days, four days ahead of time.Well, let's add another one.
02:08:37But anyway, are we moving on, Brian, from this segment?Yes, we are.Yes.We had Judgment Day doing their dialogue,and then we had a package on Lyric Valedictorian,and then we got Pete Dunn, aka Butch,against Pinta.And again, now that they're going all
02:09:00the way with this, with the lightingand the paro,and the people like Pinta,and they gave himall kinds of entranceand pomp and circumstanceand the announcers are pushing him.They're doing it right.
02:09:16Small opponents, Pete Dunn,is, you know,street urchin sized.And the opponents are athleticso they can do the stuff, and he'snot going to look bad in that respect.And I like this match better than I like the debut match because he didn't start offwith the nerves and flummoxing some things.
02:09:40They still, they started out at 100 miles an hour like we got to get everything in.And it settled down a little bit when Butch started getting his heat.But again, I think, you know, he's settled down a little bit.He's a little anxious to wow everybody.but this was much better.Then Butch got the heatand then Pinta suddenly made a comebackand it's 18 things from 18 directions
02:10:07and I don't know howDunn was supposed to sell some of them.But he hit the, he being Pinta,hit the Canadian destroyer, the Mexican destroyerat a big dive,but then Dunn foiled the destroyerand got a two count and then they went moreback and forth and finally
02:10:27Pinta hit his finish one, two, three.And as I said, I think it was smoother.I think Gable did a better jobbecause Gable's better than done.But Penta was smoother here.And again, as you brought up,the people are predisposed to like him.Again, Dallas is a major metropolitan area.
02:10:49There's more liable to be people that knowwho he isand of his previous reputation.but they're pushed him on TVto the point where people should get the picture anywhere fairly soon.But I still think, to be honest, I'll say thisand then I'll unleash you.It would have been better with his brother.
02:11:11As a tag team,they would kind of look like a super team in this environment.They'd be like Jade and Bianca, they'd be on top.He'll be an attraction here as a super team.single, but you can't tell me I don't think he's not going to be on the main event level ofthe punks, the Rollins, the Drews, etc.Not only size-wise, but, you know, language barrier and experience at this style, it's goingto take him a while.
02:11:46He wasn't, he's not a natural American worker like Eddie Guerrero was trained to be byhis older brothers who had already been established here, or, you're not.truthfully, the phenomenon of Ray Mysteriowhere he could just do any goddamn thing in the worldflawlessly.I think it would have been better as a team,but they're still doing the right thing.Tell me what you think.
02:12:08I think he's doing great so far,and I think he's been super over so far at two different markets.And, you know, sure, there are some fans that know him.I mean, that's how they know Cerro Miato right away.But this is two times in a row he got the ooh reaction.He got it the first time he did the Canadian or Mexican Destroyerwith Chad Gable.You heard ooze.
02:12:30He got that again here,and then when he did somethingrelatively simple for Penta,the handstand in the corner,or the headstand, I guess I should say.Yeah.Same thing.Ooh, you never really hear that.
02:12:45So, yeah, they're doing it right with him.So far, the fans are really into him.He's had the right opponents,and luckily, W.W.E. does havea good amount of guys that size.as far as Ray Phoenix goes,you know that's what they wanted.Yeah.
02:13:02And Tony started, again, there's two different ways to look at it.Tony started fucking around with the contract.Tony said, I'm not doing you any favors.I've paid you for a lot of time you're out.I'm extending your contract.Apparently, Tony also just pulled down his merch,so we won't be getting any merch while he's sitting at home on the couch.I guess now the question is, how do they introduce Ray Phoenix one day?
02:13:26because that day will come eventually.But right now they're doing everything right with Penta,and he's getting a great reaction, and he looks,look, he has a cooler look than the average Luchador.He just does, and, and if they don't fuck it up,he'll have a nice run, you know?Maybe Intercontinental Champion at some point, who knows?I don't see a main eventing, like you said, punk, Roland, no.
02:13:48I mean, that's ridiculous.He's never going to be there.Could they, if they were a tag team,would they be on top of the tag team division?Yeah, I think so.Would people pay as much attention to them against the tag team division as they will him as a single right now?Well, but the important thing is he shouldn't be losing for some time and it's easier to go up the tag team ranks without racks without losing than it is the singles here with the amount of talent they've got at the top.Well, we will find out.
02:14:28It's interesting to think about that, though,the Lucha Brothers and the Moto City machine guns.Lucha Brothers and even Lucha Brothers and DIY of it,that would tear the house down for them.Yeah, and maybe they could put a match,mask on Gargano, too, so we wouldn't have to look at that face.That could be the gimmick.He becomes like the opposite of Penta.
02:14:46Well, how about this?Just loser of the match has to put a mask on.Mask off versus mask on.You can make it a gimmick where it's each seat,each seed. Each team put something on the line.What about a strip poker match? Now it sounds like fucking shit-stain is booking this thing.All right. They had a package on Logan Paul. He's coming back to Netflix becausethat is the streaming TV is where all the cool hep kids are. And I guess they want Logan
02:15:21Paul, the social media celebrity on Raw now. But they did a night.package on him.Nice package, Logan.But thenanother exampleof doing differentlooking interviewsand getting out in the crowd
02:15:38in the middle of the peopleall of a suddenhe, like Mussoliniwalking through the breezeway.That punkcome in through theI mean, you know,Moxley's probably thinking,
02:15:54God damn it, gimmick infringement, I was the onewho walked through the arena.The problem is that Moxleyshould be walking through the front door of thearena and being checked for a ticket.The camera shot follows Punkas he does the walk through the boom, into the arenaand in the, not in the stands themselves,
02:16:14but up at a platform areain the stands with old Jackie Redmond,who is the only oneof these female interviewersthat sounds like a realnews personality, a real courtsideinterviewer, that she is speakingextemporaneously off the top of her head
02:16:38than somebody reading a recited, prepared question.I don't know why that she has that quality in her voice,but it's just it's night and day different than anybody else.and that works with punk because punk sounds more real than most of the guys himself.And he does a great promo, not only on the Royal Rumble,but his feelings on the guys in it.And he mentioned, and again, my notes that I did in the dark in the bed,he mentioned Seth, and he mentioned fucking Roman,
02:17:18and he mentioned a lot of the top names you would think.but then howSina and all of these peoplewere getting the reactionsand you againyou want that you wantthis is another megasingle star and he's dropping
02:17:35names of all these heavy hittersand goddamn who will win this rumbleyou could make a case for a lot of these guysbut I forget how did he bring upour friend fromfrom Floridathe one the only Terry the HulkBoulder, how did he tie him in? I'm trying to think.
02:17:55He was saying how, no matter who it is, he'll throw them over the top and win therumble, even if, I think the line was something like, even if Hulk Hogan wants to comein there, I'll throw his dusty old ass out. Yeah, his dusty ass. And the peoplebooed Hogan there, as said the mention of the name. They were popping on the other namesIsn't it against to Hulk Hogan?Now, okay, some people said,well, in Los Angeles, at the raw debut,you know, it's a big city, Los Angeles,
02:18:29it's a democratic state.Hogan was a Trump supporter.Maybe that's why they, well,Texas is as shit-kicky as it gets.That's the farthest placefrom being a liberal bastion of democracy,redneck, white socks, and,Blue Ribbon Beer in Texas,
02:18:49and they booed Hogan there.Has maybe people started to come to realizeit's not me, Hulk.It's you.They just want to boo Hulk Hogan.They are fed up with him.And that's the point I was trying to make.When we talked about the booing debacle,
02:19:10you know, when he and Jimmy Hart,poor Jimmy got scooted out of the building,he's appeared recently in years after the videotape came out.That's been baked into the cake, as they say for a while.The sudden not only resurgence of venomous response,but the over-the-top venomousnesses,when he's been around a few years ago,and now it's even worse,
02:19:41is just because of his general bullshit or,right? The lying and the bullshit stories and the ridiculousreliant that the Trumpiness has to be part of it because that's beenhe's been out in public with that but just the ridiculous behavior overall as a personin these public situations and when he's full of shit right?That has to be the difference.See the political stuff certainly turned off a lot of peopleor at least caused a lot of people just to go, oh, that's it.
02:20:17But it's not like this wasn't already happening before then.He's had a lot of issues where you don't know how the crowd's going to react,depending on what city you're in.This is now...Where was it? Was it San Jose last time?No.No, I was Los Angeles.Los Angeles, that's right.
02:20:34It was Los Angeles, which is a city he was a big star in.They booed him, okay.Like you said, Liberal Bastion.DallasYou knowAs you put it as shit-kicky as it getsThey boot themThey're gonna be in Texas still for Saturday night's main event
02:20:52In San AntonioWhich is southernAnd shit-kickier than DallasIs Jesse Ventura gonna be there?Well, one would think that it's Saturday night's main eventJesse would be showing up alsoThat could awkwardOh
02:21:08See that's the kind of thingJesse would do in the classic days, he would point out how bad Hogan was.So the fans start booing Jesse Love Field Day, I told you, I told you!Yeah, I don't know what they're going to do, but the reaction there, and the other thingI think that's important to say is punk must have known.Oh, yeah.That they were going to react like that, so it's him making a statement as well, a statementof fuck Hulk Hogan.
02:21:35Yeah.That's a statement.Punk said in his clearest farcy, fuck de Hulke.Hogan.All right.Good promo though, butthe look of it.The different energy you get from the crowd
02:21:50when you shoot amongst them.Yeah.And no one's acting like a fool.And you get the wide shot,you just see people everywhere.Jackie Redmond's as excited as they get.I don't know.She's really excited.
02:22:02You could see her chest swelling up with pride.That's Jim Cornett, ladies and gentlemen,Louisville, Kentucky.A good segment, good promo.You had nothing for punk to do on the showexcept do this promo. It was good.Well, but that's the thing is, you know,again, it promotes the rumble. It gets another star
02:22:19on television. They get the benefit of punkfor a quarter hour.And he's selling stuff and the people are happy to be sold to.That's the thing. It's not likethese people are groaning when they're, oh, another interview.They're like, yes. Oh, God damn, we love him. Let us chantwhile he speaks.they're not forcing any of this stuff down people's throats they want it
02:22:45what do you think it's going to happen in san antonio do you think he gets booed oh hoganyes i think he will i said now it's become a thing and now again if they the one thingwhether it's yeat or whoa or whoa or the other singing or the chanting or the or theIt's crowd audience participation.They're involved.And, you know, much like they wanted to hoot it Tessa Blanchard on the T&A show,now this is going to be a thing where, oh, they booed him in Los Angeles and they boot him in Dallas,and now we're going to boo him in San Antonio also because they don't like him.
02:23:34But now it's becoming a thing, so it'll feed on itself.they should have him manage tessa two birds one stone let him take all the heat well no you can't do that to tessi don't care what she's guilty of tessa comes out there with jimmy heart and hulk oakenyeah but uh and they can't switch hawk heel because he's supposed to be a goodwill he's a goodwillhe's a goodwill ambassador with no goodwill and they can't turn him heel because people think he hatesblack people. That's not like a good reason.All right, let's just turn you here and run with that.No, that's not how that works.
02:24:13And can they blamehis beer? We found outlittle Hokomaniacs, there wassomething in this beer that caused meto be aso I amI'm a real American. I'm drunk onmy ass and at the bottom
02:24:29of a can. I think if theywant him to get cheered, they better stay in like ClearwaterBeach or maybeTampa. I don't know if that'll do it.It's just because now you're dealing with a narrow audience also,just of the people that are wanting to go to a live wrestling event. Maybe he might still getcheered over at a neutral event like a bull riding thing or afucking rodeo or whatever. And here's the other problem. What are they going to do with
02:24:56him? We saw the last time we saw him, he can't walk.He couldn't even get to the ring. They just had him come out by the entranceway andhe's an older guy now with lots of you know you never think of him as a bump guy but when you'rereally thinking of him taking doing that leg drop yeah for a big guy and I was loaded to thetits on steroids that'll do it and now they're singing he is a real American riding aroundWalmart in a hover and he is a real all right then we had a match uh that I didn't watchwith Shana and Joey orShana and Zoe
02:25:38with their manager JoeyShana and Zoewith their managerSoniaagainst EO and Dakotaand that was at the pointwhere I went to get something else to eatI think or potentially
02:25:55Harley needed a belly rubbut thenwe got the WrestleManiarematch because rememberthankfully on Netflixthe show is only two and a half hours long nowthey think that's the sweet spotmy sweet spot would be I think 37 minutes
02:26:17top to bottombut at least it's better than three hoursthey got more time to develop things than two hoursbut they don't have to stretch things out for three hoursare you saying 37 minutes for any wrestling showor just for their wrestling showmaybe 24 minutes for the other wrestling showsand 37 minutes for theirs,
02:26:37because they need longer to enter the ringbecause they're in bigger buildings.No, because you're a great person to askbecause you got to see both.Like the 90-minute Memphis show.Did you feel like 90 minutes was a better timefor wrestling than 60 minutes?Yeah, actually, in that instance, it was.
02:26:52And the same thing with Houston.And being serious for a secondin the middle of this folderall,the average wrestling show was always an hourbecause the television stations, especially for local programming,back in those days, they wanted to program an hour blocks.And of course, there'd be half-hour programs that were originally networkthat were placed in a syndication, and they'd strip those
02:27:21like between five and six in the afternoon before the local news at six o'clockor seven to eight network adjacency, whatever.That's where the half-hour programs would get in.and yes, you had regionally syndicated 30-minute fishing shows or whatever,but most of the time, if you're programming a sports show on the weekend,a wrestling show, from the dawn of syndication of television in the 50suntil the end of the 80s when everything started going to shit,you needed an hour program.
02:27:52They weren't going to take a half hour,and they weren't going to take an hour and a half.But when you had specific markets,whether it be Atlanta had two hours,on TBS.That was a whole different animal.Or Houston was 90 minutesor Channel 5 in Memphis was 90 minutes.
02:28:12The television station wanted thatbecause the program was so popularand did such big numbers.And that's whyin Houston they were finebecause Channel 39 they shot in the Coliseum.Later in later years,they used an hour of the Mid-South wrestling program
02:28:31and then shot 30 months.minutes of content in the Coliseum, but they did their own thing.But in Memphis, the 90-minute program in Memphis is also the program that aired in a shortenedversion in the other markets, Louisville and Nashville and Evansville, Indiana, Lexington, Kentucky,etc.So the reason why it worked in Memphis was because you not only had the basic part of the programthat, you know, everybody could see the matchesand the live studio interviews setting up the big angles,
02:29:08but then you got local tape from Memphis,the Coliseum last Monday night that the other markets wouldn't seeand promos just for that, and that was different.It was the people that watched Memphis wrestling on televisiongot to see three or four minutes probablyof the top three or four matches from the previous Mondayat the Coliseum, so that was better than watching some dry studio match.So they had programming that was part of the promotion for this coming week
02:29:39that could still keep you occupied for an hour and a half,and they didn't need any extra wrestlers or whatever.But then that stuff would be edited down and the main tapethat went everywhere else would just have the main body of the...So it was tailored to fit a variety of purposes.What would it made your life easier?like in Smoky Mountain or OVW, wherever.But Smoky Mountain, if you had the option to fill up 90 minutes,
02:30:05would that have made your life easier?No, it would have made my life harder.Because then we were, this was another era still yet,we were doing three and sometimes four television shows per nightat our TV tapings.Because we didn't have the luxury of doing a TV studio show live every Saturday morning.So if we needed to fill up90 minutes, that
02:30:31taping would have lasted from7 o'clock until a quarter to 1 in the morning.So it would have made it harder.Would it have been betterpromotion? Every fanthat watched our one hour programwould have watched our 90 minute programif we'd have had one. That wouldn't have been
02:30:51a fucking problem at all.And we could have putmore videotapepotentially from the arenas to promote shitinstead of having to shoot so muchat the live tapings, maybe.But we couldn't have got any of the TV stationsto run it because that would have then
02:31:12not only taken up one of their one hour blocks,but it would have fucked up another one of their hourswhere they had to find a 30-minute programto go behind and blah, blah, blah.And we were having a hard enough time getting an hourwithout having to try to get an hour and a halfand think about this, what hourand what 90-minute network programs
02:31:36can you ever think ofin the Virginian went to 90 hoursand 90 hours.They went to 90 minutes, the Virginian,in the 60s because it was such a,not only a popular program,but it was one of the network's prestige programsand it was like a,
02:31:55a 90-minute television movie every week.And they did that with a very few drama programs,and they usually didn't last long.And otherwise, and they realized that it was impossible to syndicate those.So that's why you never saw an hour and a half program on the networksunless it was the movie of the week,and then that was specifically timed to go into a time slotwhether it be 90 minutes, in which case the movie would be 72 or 74 minutes
02:32:29or a two-hour slot where they'd make a movie that was 108 minutes.And that's why the made-for-TV movies never needed to really be edited.I digress, didn't I?Yeah, Johnny Carson went from 90 to 60.Well, you know, he originally went from 105 to 90.in the in the first when johnny carson first took over the tonight showa lot of the local markets the 11 o'clock news was only a 15 minuteprogram a 15 minute newscast
02:33:05and the tonight show would start the network feedat 1115 p.m. Eastern and go to one o'clock in the morningbut when carson got some cloutafter he'd been doing it for about a year year and a halfas the local news started expanding in major markets like New York, L.A., Chicago,he said, he went to the network, he said, half of the country,including all the big cities, is not seeing my monologue.They're not seeing the first 15 minutes of the show.
02:33:39And so he refused to come out.There's an old example of this on YouTube.Ed McMahon would introduce the Tonight Show,and then they would do a bit with the band and the leader,band leader was Skitch Henderson then,and they would kill 15 minutes,and then they would introduce Johnny Carson at 1130,and he'd come out and do his monologue.
02:34:02And finally, they just said,fuck it, we're just going to make the whole thing an hour and a half,and that forced the local stations to expand their news.Uh-huh, see there?Very good.anywayand how it pertains to the main event of this wrestling show isthe goddamn show is only two and a half hours long
02:34:26so we were already at the main eventwhich was the big rematch from WrestleManiabetween I started to say Seth MacFarlaneDrew McIntyre and Seth RollinsSeth Franklin Rollins our friend and confidantand I don't know what all they showed before thisbut when they started the package,I started trying to fast forward.
02:34:48And I went 10 minutesuntil I got to the fucking bell at least.So they had long entrances and et cetera.But did you watch this match, Brian?I did.Two guys that look like starsand looked like professional athletes,it had a big time feel
02:35:09because they're pushed guysand the people where it's a big building,it's a big crowd.they both can work.And that's the whole thingis that this was a basic matchand nobody was going to get fucking hurtnor should they.
02:35:23And the people were liking itand it's in a big buildingwith a big feelwith two guys that looked like stars.And that's the problem right nowis people look at thisand then they look at AEWand it's not just
02:35:35in some casesthe real dedicated wrestling fansespecially,they don't worry about the production valuethey want to see the wrestling.but AEW looks like a flea market next to this talent toothat's the biggest problem with AEW's perceptionis not necessarily that they're
02:35:55they're not able to match the television productionbecause a lot of people understand thatit's that their talent looks like goddamn idiotscompared to these guysand that that's a problembecause except for their basic audience,the average person that they may ever try to getto watch the Macs or the cock or the flicks or whatever,
02:36:23doesn't matter who it is,they don't want to see some local indie-looking jackoffsthat aren't as impressive as their brother-in-law.And therein-law is one of the big problems.But anyway, you know what the other big problem is?Go ahead, go ahead.You want to know what the other big problem is?I think it's very similar to the WWE
02:36:43under Vince McMahon, AEW started disappointing their fans more and more.Yeah.And now there's a feeling that they're going to disappoint you.You're not going to get what you want.It's going to be a letdown.And that's what you need to turn around.It was easy for WWE.It was as simple as, hey, everyone, Triple H is in charge.
02:37:03And everyone kind of took a breath.But AEW doesn't have that.And when you burn out your fans, it's hard to bring them back sometimes.Well, and, you know, it's not like that people, including us, but other people, we weren't the only brilliant prognosticators, hadn't been saying from the start, you can't just, people won't just love you for no reason forever.Yes, at the start, it's a crowdfunding thing. They want so badly for this to succeed. They want there to be an alternative. They hate Vince the evil.empire. He takes advantage of their favorite wrestlers.Now they found out thattheir favorite wrestlers when they get a big time job on national TV
02:37:51and are working for a billionaire. They're just a bunch of fucking assholes too.You know, they've got all the goddamn issues with each other that everybody else had.But it's not all, hey, kumbaya, kids, let's put on a show in the barn.It's no, fuck this fucking guy. He's not my friend.and again, you have to leave the fans somewhat happy.WWE does that.Those fans are like to have that time of their fucking life,but we know how much to pain for that.
02:38:23They're paying a fortune with AEW,you know, their fans look like they're walking out with their,their shoulders slumped.You're not giving them like anything they want,like in terms of angles, in terms of who's pushed,in terms of the matches, in terms of the results, the booking.The WWE fans look like they're at a rave,and the AEW fans look like they're at a funeral.
02:38:47Jeez.It's just like they're resigned to their fate.Yeah, this fucking thing's going to happen again too, isn't it?Hey, somebody almost got killed.Uh, more of this.But anyway, so they had a nice match, did Seth and Drew.They did the superplex into the Falcon Arrow spot,which is always stupid, no matter who does it.
02:39:11And lots of back and forth.forth, some two counts, and finallySeth got him with a surprisejackknife.Didn't solve anything, becauseit's a TV match and why should they?Drew got some heat on himafterwards, and then
02:39:27Sammy came out, trying to savethe day, gets on Drew.Drew gets backon Sammy, sidelines him,turns back to Seth, and he's pickling him,Sammy runs, he's going to give Drew the big kick.Drew moved, and Sammy moved,and Sammy kicked Seth right in the mush.
02:39:46And boom, and then Drewbacks, and now we're all,because now Seth is going to be mad at Sammy.And there's another fucking natural thing we've got set up for the Royal Rumble.How is he going to react to this?So they really are coming close to everybody is still a baby face and a heel,but at the same timethey're coming close to giving even the baby facesand or the heels
02:40:19legitimate reasons to be mad at everybody elseand even the heels think their baby facesthis is deeper shit and more connectedthan one has seen in a whilethis is what they were kind of trying to tell usthat AEW was early on that everything's situationalno heels or baby faces but didn't work out that wayhere it's starting to become that way
02:40:40Well, that's because it was a situation comedy, not a situation.But here, I mean, there are clear, clearly Drew's a heel.Yeah.But Seth, it kind of depends on what he's doing and who he's working with.Sammy's a clear-cut baby face, but Rollins, you don't know.And again, the long-term tease earlier was Owens and Zane, so we'll see what happens there.But they got a lot of places to go, and a long time to get there.They don't need to rush anything.
02:41:09this is one of more amazingbusiness turnaroundsI've seen in wrestlingin a while, isn't it you?I mean, you know, they've turned aroundbusiness before, but the product kind of stillwasn't that great.But now the...
02:41:26The show feels alive.The show feels alive.That's the thing, like, from the beginning of the showtill the end, and now you don't even knowwhen it's going to end.It just so happens.It was around two and a half hoursthe last two weeks.
02:41:39it can go three and a half hours.It's whatever they want.It just, it feels like it's the happening thing.And they're paying a fortune those fansto go sit there.So it's not like it's just a working mangoing to these shows or anything.Yeah, I think they've priced themselves
02:41:55out of the septic tank pumping fan base.It's hard times for anyone wanting to buy wrestling ticketsat a reasonable rate.Well, there you have that.That was the Monday.Night Raw. I'm sure there were some things that I've nodded off on, but we got the main partsout of the way. Did we get your parts out of the way? My parts are never in the way. They are,I don't know what I'm going to say here. But yeah, we are done with everything, but the drive-thru,
02:42:26action-packed, classic wrestling talk, dynamite, from the files, part three, Dave Meltzer,some guest to program coming soon. Maybe this week we will see, and more. Maybe this week wewill see. We will sell, can't you see? What this segment has done to me. And we'll be back nextweek here with more on the Jim Cornett experience, including Saturday night's main event, the reporton the big network extravaganza leading up to the Royal Rumble. And plus, if anybody else says or doesanything, particularly stupid, egregious or embarrassing, we will be there to chop it up, as the kids say.Until then, for Brian, I'm Jim, and you're whoever the fuck you are.Thank you, fuck you, and bye-bye, everybody.
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