Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 577: Floods & Stuff

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

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Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornet. The keys to the future. Help by Onet. It's the wrestling, wrestling everywhere and not a drop-to-watch edition of the Jim Cornett experience. And joining me today,

Hawaiian Brian the podcasting Lion, the King of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. Co-host to you, the captain that always goes down with the podcast. Be great. Brian Last, everybody. Hello, how Jim? What a pleasure it is to be here once again. Not exactly sure what we're going to talk about. I have the idea of at least one thing. Oh, I forgot to tell you, didn't I?

Yeah, but I'm sure we'll have a great time. Well, yeah, see, that's the thing. It's all about having fun in the midst of crisis, Brian. I'm in a disaster area. We're in a state of emergency over here, but it's all about having fun in the face of crisis and chaos and pestilence and famine and flood and financial destruction and all of the other wonderful things that occupy our waking hours.

It's time to just sit down and just you and me, Brian, just two bros doing a podcast, right? You know, behind every dark cloud, there is a silver lining. Well, I think behind every silver lining, there's a dark cloud when it came to what we're going to talk about at the end of the program, so we'll try to have some fun up until then. Because, good Lord, people say sometimes that I just, oh, at Cornett, that's his gimmick, that's his stick. He doesn't like anything, and that's it, he's just putting that on. Brian, you've known me for quite some time now.

Do I work hard enough at these programs that I would go through the problem and the trouble of concrafting and adopting a fake persona? Or do I just basically say the first fucking thing that comes out of my mouth? Yeah, this is kind of like our off-air conversation just recorded and also with audio issues. Yeah, hey, what does the matter of my audio? Oh, don't even get started now. I didn't say anything right now, just in general. And the general scheme of things.

Well, in general, I'm in a goddamn disaster area. So that's what we've got going for us here. The floods, finally, the river has begun to recede, Brian, and that's a gradual process, obviously. Well, you don't have rivers where you got the ocean up there. The ocean comes in and out. Well, you got some rivers, I guess, too,

that come from the ocean and go to the tributaries and the streams. A prosaic? The pasaic. The pasaic, that just sounds like a ditch of filth. A Passaic river. But nevertheless, the river, is receding, but it's still

this is one of the top ten floods of all time, but as we've found out since we've been watching the TV coverage because they got the drones now. Again, when I was a kid, if something happened, they would put a little Velcro picture of it, stuck

up on the weather map and say, this is what's going on. But now they've got drones so you can see the streets downtown, some of them, the only way you can tell where the, that there is a street in the vicinity as you see the top of the street lights sticking out of the water about a foot or two. And there are fish swimming on the first floor of the Galtouse Hotel downtown. Did you hear about this?

No, I didn't see that. There are, the bottom floor, thankfully, is mostly a parking garage, but they have like also employee locker rooms and some type of facility. Well, they're changing with the fishes on the first floor of the Galt House now. And it's officially the worst flood since 1997, which I was still in Connecticut. That may be the one time I'm happy to be there because I've missed that one. So is, but you know, this is skewed the top 10 list here, Brian, all down to Ohio River, Cincinnati and Louisville and down to Western Kentucky. all of the top 10 flood statistics are skewed

apparently because the Army Corps of Engineers came in in the 60s or redid the dams and the locks and the flood walls and the whole nine yards so it is somewhat more difficult now one would think that it used to be to flood downtown Louisville and sweep away people's homes on the southern Indiana banks and etc but it's still doing that.

So anyway, nothing compares to 1937, no, Sonny boy. Back in my day, the 37 flood, baby. That's back then,

that's when we, you know, we reverted to caveman times. So I actually have a personal connection to the 1937 flood. Brian, do you know this? No, I do not know about your personal connection.

You know about the 37 flood. You've mentioned it. Well, the 37 flood for those of you who didn't live in Louisville, Kentucky in 1937, was the all-time, goddamn biblical proportion flood of this city. And it didn't come from thunderstorms or tornadoes or severe weather in the spring or whatever. Just for a freak thing, the first week of January. it started raining and it didn't stop for like fucking weeks. And by the,

toward the end of the month, they had gotten as much rain as they were normally supposed to get over a six month period in like two weeks or whatever, which would be so a couple of fucking feet. And every, there was no Army Corps of Engineer flood walls and shit. And there's pictures of people with rowboats down there, Broadway.

And at one point, I think they said, because of the photographer's office, the main photographers being downtown at the time, 50% of the historical pictures taken of Louisville of the early derbies and all that bullshit was lost because they wiped away their fucking negatives and their files and everything. it knocked the radio stations off the air there were three of them at the time I think and there was no television and phone service was iffy because a lot of people in 1937 still might not have had a phone

and it was wiping away all the shit but can you imagine the building code regulations Brian in the middle of the depression for a home on the side of the river it just swept these fucking people's homes away and they had to my personal connection I've come to my dad had just started working for the Courier Journal, the newspaper. And they had to move their printing. I think it was over to Frankfurt,

but because with the radio stations off the air, phone service spotty, the town is flooded, it won't stop raining, people are panicking, the only way that they could spread the word of what was happening and try to avoid people goddamn freaking out was to get the newspaper printed twice a day, morning and evening. So they went over to Frankfurt to print

and then trucked the fucking things in by the tens and tens of thousands twice a day to fucking distribute it around town so people didn't go out of their minds. can you imagine not being able to fight it just it's the whole town's flooded and your homes washed away and you came fucking call anybody and nobody can tell you what's going on i see your thrill no i mean i was there for super storm sandy but at least then we had radio and we had different things to keep us informed the one there was no power for a few weeks no this was back when people still saw in black and white and then the army corps of engineers put dunes all over the beach yes you know we got to Give a round of applause to the Army Corps of Engineers. But yeah, 1937, in today's money, $1 billion in damage in the Louisville area is what it would have been to rebuild all that shit.

But they say this, they're going to get cleaned up by Derby, which is May the 3rd. They're talking, it looks like this shit would take months. I've seen video of dumpsters floating down the, fucking what used to be, you know, land. It is now the fucking river. And there's driftwood and drek everywhere. And somehow they're going to get this disaster area cleaned up and spotless in three weeks.

We'll keep you posted, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Moving on to more of, we've still got to cover the current events beat. Brian, and this is kind of a. music-related thing, so I'm thinking you might be up on this. There's a band called Weezer. Apparently they're heavy smokers. No, but I believe Rivers Cuomo

weased a lot when he was younger, which is how he got the name. Well, the point is this band Weezer, there's somebody in the band Weezer who's married to a woman that the cops just shot and then arrested for attempted murder after shooting her. and I just saw that on the Twitter moments before we got on the air that's how I was I was jotting this down to ask you if you could tell me what the fuck is going on there

this is kind of the result of the idea of continuing the band without Matt Sharp this is what happens when you get a replacement bass player no I don't know well I'm joking I'm making the Weezer fans happy because Matt Sharp well I don't know who the better band with Matt Sharp that's all people are. I'm just, hey, you can't make mockery of this woman being mowed down in the streets. Where was she? Was she breaking in somewhere? Well, she wasn't mowed down. I mean, I saw, I guess, video of her after she was shot and she seemed like she was cooperating at that point. So, you know, nothing makes you more cooperative than being shot by some motherfucker. But the point

being, it's the replacement of the replacement basest in Weezer. He's been there a long time. So now he, you know, kind of gets to act like a rock star too. And it's his wife. I've seen pictures. of her and apparently there was some kind of thing where I guess it was a hidden run or multiple hidden runs was it? What the fuck? Were they running from? She was chasing the cops or the cops are chasing her through

the streets and people are run down? What is happening here? Maybe I'm wrong. I saw that the bass player came out of his house and they said you have any comment about this and he said I'll see you at Coichella. I mean I really don't know what to think of it. And honey, watch that fucking bleeding all over the sidewalk. What a promoter though.

You know, honestly, if you had someone in wrestling like that, like his wife just went crazy and started shooting at the cops and they shot her, and then she's alive. So there's no tragedy. But why were the cops there? I don't know, but if you came out of your house and they said, you have any comedy, I'll see you at WrestleMania. That's how you promote.

Can you Google this? Because I just saw this. And I thought it was a big story. All the kids like you would know. I only saw the base. Again, it's, if it was one of... The real weasers. If it was one of the other band members,

that'd be a little more interesting. But this is like the bass player for the albums I stopped listening to. He's not old enough to be wheezing yet. Let's see, let's go. Who's a reputable source? We'll go to the L.A. Times. New details emerge.

After Jillian Lauren, get immediate access. One dollar for four months. What the fuck? Oh, for God's sake. Kid me. Yes, just somebody put the news out. Hold on.

Do I already have a membership here? I think I do. There we go. New D... What, now we won't let me... Oh! We'll go to a different website. Here's the New York Post.

For free, Weezerbasis bizarrely promotes Coichella show day after his wife was shot by cops in charge with attempted murder. The fuck! Let me go ahead. Let me click on that so we can get the original article. The moment Weezerbasis Scott Shriner's wife surrenders to cops after shooting her, following, Dramatic L.A. Manhunt. Manhunt? Well, then it seems like they got the wrong person. Dramatic video captured the moment

Weezer bassist Scott Shrinner's gun-wielding wife surrendered outside her Los Angeles home after being shot and wounded by cops. God damn. When she allegedly inserted herself into a bizarre Hollywood-style chase. The saga involving Gillian Shriner, 51, erupted in the northeast Los Angeles neighborhood of Eagle Rock,

Wednesday afternoon, as police were chasing down three men from an earlier hidden run on the nearby highway. See, I knew there was a hidden run somewhere. Cops with the LAPD said they were assisting California Highway Patrol. Chips! Remember Chips? Eric Estrada. Chips! Yes! Officers in the hunt for three perps

who had just fled the scene of the wreck on the Ventura Freeway, when one of them was spotting, I guess I mean spotted, was spotted running through a backyard. It was then that they came face to face with the musician's wife, who was brandishing a handgun in the front yard of her home.

They ordered Jillian to drop the gun numerous times, but she refused and pointed it directly at the officers, police alleged. Cops then opened fire and struck her in the shoulder before she fled into her home. This is aerial footage. Now, hold on my pausing here. Who is recounting this story?

What do you mean? It's the New York Post. Richard Paulina and Emily Crane. I don't think that's going to be the defense attorney's fucking story of their encounter. So I'm wondering where this information is coming from. Again, not even going any further.

What's had their, chasing three different people who were in a hidden run who fled and while search of them they just find some woman in the street with a gun? Well, no, did it say in the street or didn't it say they were searching the backyard or something like that? Well, they said she was in her front yard

actually, I will correct. Oh, in her front yard, okay, in front yard, but do you think that it's possible that this woman saw some fucking people running through her goddamn yard and came out there with a gun like, oh shit,

be like they say on TV you know good cop and bad car the good gun stops the bad gun or whatever and as she's standing there a bunch of other people run up were they in uniform because if a bunch of if you're not out there

they're in cop cars okay then then there you go if you're not out there with ill intent when the cops show up and if you were trying to protect yourself in some fashion you wouldn't be pointing the gun at the cops So did they just...

What are the laws? Are you allowed to just have a party with your gun in your front yard? Well, you know you're not allowed to... Well, you can stand there and hold it, I assume, if nobody complains about it, but you can't be pointing it at anybody, animal, vegetable or mineral. But the point I'm making is, what is her defense if she did indeed point the gun at the cops? Or did they just stumble on her having some time? of mental issue in her own front yard when they were chasing the other people.

Well, aerial footage captured by KTLA helicopters show Gillian emerging from her property a short time later with the family's babysitter. The two women could be seen walking down the driveway with their hands raised in the air before they lied face down in the middle of the street. What if this was after she got shot? She got shot and then went in the house and got the babysitter. A young boy was then spotted emerging from the... You said your first reaction.

A young boy was then spotted emerging from the home, too, with his hands up. The self-described rock wife was taken to the hospital where she was treated for a non-life-threatening gunshot wound. Police recovered a 9-millimeter handgun from her home in the aftermath. She was later booked on suspicion of attempted murder for wielding the gun at officers and cut loose after posting a $1 million bond. Jesus Christ! L.A. County jail record showed. Meanwhile, separate bird's eye view footage captured the three-car crashed that kicked off the entire ordeal.

Man, is there anyone who has the full video of the entire match? I'd like to see it from beginning to end. Yeah. The big running at the end doesn't have the impact if you can't see that. It's a surprise running. One suspect allegedly stripped down to his boxers and tried to blend into the neighborhood

by jumping into a pool. and water his plants. I need to see this whole video. The problem was he still attracted attention because he was pissing on him. I'm trying to see if there's anything else about the Weezer wife. Well, while you do that,

let me just editorialize that once again, you know, you could buy if they were chasing criminals through the neighborhood that she might have come out there with her weapon, like, what are you doing in my property or whatever the fuck? when the cops come, she wouldn't have been pointing it at them.

So that was she in some type of separate mental fucking freak out that they just happen to stumble on while they're trying to find these fucking gardeners and pool invaders? And it, the story as told doesn't make a lot of sense on basically those points, does it? Got to be something else going on. I see another article here. Weiser bases, Scott Trouin. Ryan's wife diagnosed with cancer and had a hysterectomy weeks before arrest. So apparently there is a lot going on there.

And it doesn't say anything about the gun or why. But, uh, all right, get well soon. Maybe. What do you think? Well, I mean, yes, please recover from the, the gunshot wound and or whatever precipitated the behavior that led to the cat to chase the rat that lived in the house nevertheless honey there's a bunch of people in the middle of the day coming down the street

all right get the gun go to the yard the cops will leave your own just don't drop it even if they say drop it just hold on to it just don't drop it man if that was any other neighborhood she'd be dead you're in your front yard the cops yell put down your gun you don't they shoot you and then you run into your house that was any other neighborhood in L.A. should be dead

well not any other neighborhood but some other neighborhoods. Some of the other neighborhoods in the L.A. area. Can you imagine? Put down your gun. No, shoot her. Where'd she go?

She ran in the house. The fuck. What does that happen? Wait, if I'm a cop and I shoot some regular normal size-looking woman and she just, her reaction is to run in the house, I'm going to leave her in a fucking house. I'm not going after her.

Fuck. If you shoot me, I'm going to sit right there and wait on a fucking doctor. And by the way, I'm sorry if I upset any Weezer fans. I'm a Weezer fan, too. The band was better with Matt Sharp. The first album and Pinkerton were better than everything they've done since. And they've had some good songs, and they've had some catchy songs. And that other bassist who was there for a brief time did a all right job, I guess.

But geez. Name a catchy song. What would I know Weezer from? Buddy Holly. But no, I'm not asking you about Buddy. I'm asking about Wheezer. That may be their most famous song, so I think he was... Well, sing the song.

I'm not going to be... Oh, God damn it. I couldn't fucking pick happy birthday out of that. I have to learn it first for... You have to learn it. I'm saying, give me the word... Recite the words like Vincent Price doing spoken word poetry. Oohie-oo.

I look just like Buddy Holly. And you're married Tyler Moore. And I'm trying to say it out loud without singing it. And I don't care what they say about us anyway. I don't care about that. Can you give me another Wheezer song that I would instantly know? I don't know if you're really their audience. The sweater song?

The sweater song. Pink triangle? Maybe you know that one? No. Can you recite any of those? I'm done with the recitation. Yeah, done with the recitation. All right.

Well, we got to the bottom of that. I hope everyone's enjoyed our look at the news the last several weeks here on the show talking about all these things happening all over. Well, here's something that was in the news. This is a follow-up to the press release that we just read on a show that we just did about to sale that they just made of the company that I formerly owned to the Favarsham people. And a guy, and I retweeted it, and now I jotted it down again real quickly before we started recording,

so I lost his name, I'm sorry. But remember Ohio Valley Wrestling that they announced, we talked about, has been sold to a concern in the UK that also as a football team. And we were pontificating, Brian, you and I about why the fuck would big time, company it owns this football team over there in Faversham and you know and all this suddenly get a little wrestling school in Louisville, Kentucky was the gist of our conversation. And somebody on Twitter sent here's the

new owners are Haverford West and they're in Wales. They're in Wales which is not whales. When I was a kid, I always wondered why that guy got to be the prince of whales. What the fuck is he? Aquaman and he gets to fucking be the Lord and Savior of the Whale. And what's he doing for the fucking whales?

But it's confusingly similar for people in the American lands. Does nothing about the blubber problem. It does nothing about the blubber problem. By the way, the illicit blubber problem. But anyway, in Wales, it's Haverford West and type this in now. We may get more information about this company.

This press release made them sound like this was goddamn, this was the NFL. This was major league football or baseball or this was something, right? Haverford West in Wales, they said, tweeted a picture of the football field that they've got over there. They are located in a town with a population, Brian, you know what the population is of Haverford West? in Wales. No. 11,000 people. Oh, that's not what I thought it would be. They said a picture, it's a football field in a wilderness.

It's a beautiful football field, gorgeous and it looks well maintained and man-scaped and everything. It isn't a middle of a fucking wilderness. So Haverford West in Wales, can you look, can we get more information? about a company that owns a football team in a town of 11,000 people over there has now bought a wrestling school in Louisville, Kentucky,

where say what you will about the state of OVW, there's 11,000 people living within a fucking half a mile radius of the goddamn Davis Arena over there. I don't know what the fuck is happening here. Have you found that, do they have that? on Google? I'd like to be there for the walkthrough where he's like, this place is splendid. May I please

see the tape catalog? I'd like to see some of that early Sina footage. I don't know what to say. Well, nobody, at this point, nobody thinks they're going to get the Sina footage out of that these day. Whoever has been, and that's, we also contemplated on the mystery

of why there have been more people invested in OVW over the past four or five years and there has the stock market and the mayor owned a piece of it and the radio guy owns a piece of it and this fucking company from dipshit Shire

fucking farms in England or Wales owns a piece of it or owns most of it now and my cousin's friend the doctor had invested in it where is this money going and what are they buying well when you lose 30,000 a month

you have to find ways to finance the thing It's a fuck. Well, that would stress me as an individual losses like that, for heaven's sake, much less of a large company like. But have you Googled the Haverford West in Wales people? Oh, I grew, I grew, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I googled Haverford West. So I got the actual town. Yeah, I didn't know whether they say it over there with like hyphens. Like it's Haverford West in Wales. It's a and here's how you say it in Welch. I might have been going to try that. Haberford West. What's the second part of it?

Well, it's Haberford West. They're in Wales. That's the fucking, the guy tweeted the picture of the football fields and population over his 11,000. A Haberford West Football Club, that's what you meant. Yes, yes. I've Googled it. I don't know how they name.

As strange it may seem, they give these towns in the UK strange names these days. And you got who's on first, what's on second, I don't know, is on third. It's very rare when someone would buy OVW and go, So this is splendid, this arena will double our audience. Yeah. They play at Ogee Bridge Meadow Stadium, which accommodates 2,100 spectators. Well, geez, Davis Arena will go 500 if the fire marshal turns his back, not that they need it lately, but...

If they only have 11,000 people living there, I guess there's a lot of people... Well, that ain't bad, I guess then. Are they near any, we'll finish that and then find out if they're near some type of large metropolitan area we've heard of like Stratford upon Avon or the old pig and whistle. Well, I have to go back to the other page for that, but they were, the club was found, found or formed as it says here. How long were they missing? It was formed in 1890 and it was renamed Haverford West Town in 1901.

And this is just a boring history from what it reads like here. let's go back to the actual locale Haverford West which is a county town of Pembrokeshire, Wales and the most populous urban area of Pembrokeshire, if that is indeed how you butcher that, with a population of 14,000

Oh, Jesus. 596 in 2011. Wait a bit, that is the so the tweeter was wrong, it's not 11,000, it's 14,5, or, whatever, but that's the most populous... Well, hold on. I'm confused, though. It says it's the most populous urban area with a population of 14-596. And next sentence, it is also a community consisting of 12,042 people,

making it the second most populous community in the county after Milford Haven. That's an NXT name if I ever heard it. Here he comes Milford Haven. Ladies gentlemen, he's that the man that gravity said, Fuck you too. The suburbs include the former parish of Prendergrass, Alberttown, and the residential and industrial areas of Withy Bush. Oh, God damn it, no. That's exactly what it says.

Can you see when they have the big football game and the coach looks overze on. Goddamn troublemakers from Whiffy Bush are pulling up. Haverford West is also a strategic location. it was the lowest bridging point of the western Cladau before the Cladal Bridge opened in 1975. Oh, that's a body of water. The Cliddaql.

Or it's something that most men can't find on a woman. The Clidow, which is it? They have been English speaking for centuries. And then there's a bunch of here about the oral. What else did you want to? They have a castle. What else do you need? Is that an endorsement?

They learned to communicate. hundreds of years ago. Any other information you need about this place? It seems just great. Again, I have questions on why that a company that owns a football team in the middle of

of fucking bum-fuck whales as they used to say. I'm looking at the section of Wikipedia under economy. A new town library opened to 2018 in the former Riverside market building. So that's pretty big. got a library now. Under

economy, a new library has opened up. Who the fuck says we've got a great money-making scheme. A library! That doesn't happen. And yeah, anything else you need to know about this? They're cracking down on those late fees, though, Brian. Oh, Christian Bale, the actor, he's from there.

Augusta Hans. But he doesn't live there now, does he? Maybe he's putting the money up for OVW. Has he been in a wrestling movie? He is not yet. I'm trying to see any other names you may know. Fisher, the actress. I'm thinking to Connie Francis. Yeah, me too.

Ellis James, stand-up comedian. Apparently needs to sit down. This is a Chelsea Manning, American activist and whistleblower. Huh. From Wales. Who knew? I don't remember a girl with a whistle act. Was she on the Ed Sullivan show?

Also, Waldo Williams. That's a great name. The Welsh language poet and pacif. I thought that was Wendy Williams' father. Waldo's here. And then a bunch of soccer players, as you would guess. All right. But point being, again, you know, we'll keep up on this story.

But yes, the West Wickerford-Faversham fucking shamrocks have purchased OVW, and they're going to work hand in hand from across the pond, from Shepherdsville Road to a field in the middle of Wales. I can't wait to one of them. One of them's going to run into Nick Con. I'm in the wrestling business too. I own OVW. All right.

This is, I said, one of those shows. We're at a disaster area. And as a result, I've got a lot of papers here, a lot of notes, a lot of things jotted down. We're going to talk about some things. The new T-shirts that we have on sale for sale here on the fine programs are a big. hit now where you can show your support for your program, Cornees Drive-Thru, or just put my face on your

chest. If you turn the shirt inside out where the design is facing inside, I will suckle you as you sleep to relax you. And you can do those, Brian, by a number of ways, but clicking on the YouTube videos, it's right down below there or going to the app for the shopping, the shop app. app and the other ways that you can enumerate. That's right. Of course, Arcadianvanguard.com is a direct link right to the store. And the products in the store are listed on YouTube. You can click any one of them. It'll take you right there.

And we have t-shirts up now. More to come. Travis Heckel artwork to come on shirts. Again, I keep phrasing this in awful ways. But Travis Heckel artwork on shirts and much, much more to come. Thank you to everyone who's been posting pictures of the shirts arriving. Everyone seems really happy with them. it's never here's a picture of me wearing it it's here's a picture of the shirt next to the ripped

open package but we appreciate it nonetheless thank you actually we have gotten three or four complaints from the u.s postal service because people are taking pictures of the carrier bringing the shirt and and some of these people are you know they're on parole from various places they don't spread their pictures around so anyway but also brian as i mentioned last week and I'm going to talk about it again a little bit today in more detail because the people have been demanding to know the big may mayhem sale at jim cornet.com courtesy of cornet's collectibles begins on Saturday, May the 3rd at noon eastern time, which also is Derby Day. So you can just mark it down by that.

I know everybody traditionally, the first thing they do around April time is start marking down when Derby Day is. Well, you do that, right? every year, Brian. The first Saturday in May, that's the immediate thing you think of, the Kentucky Derby. I'd focus more on the Belmont.

Well, anyway, focus more on May 3rd at noon. That's when this stuff goes on and says, because there's going to be something for everybody going up at Jim Cornett.com. Actually, I should rephrase that. There's going to be stuff that everybody may be interested in, but it's not going to be for everybody because I don't have that many of each of these things.

And I will elaborate. in that for the month of May's sale, Hotchkis Featherbottom and the rest of the Featherbottom family and I have gotten together and consolidated two storage units into one because of the recent sales that we've had. Thank you for your support. And we've gone through everything. And in addition, I have been diving into the vault, Brian,

into the finally after long, long, uh, fucking procrastination. I've finally been weeding stuff out of the vault that I've been used to either take to Fan Fest to sell in person or have been meaning to list and get rid of because I've got two or three copies or whatever the case may be or the drag. Because now that I got the the Huangdoodle inventory feature on the website, the Huangdoodle inventory feature, that thing's a Huangdoodle. because remember my old website, I just had to kind of cut shit off when I was close because the inventory feature didn't work and then I'd oversell shit.

Well, now Hotchkiss has got that shit straightened out. So basically, we have got a limited number of a variety of things, including some classic memorabilia going all the way back to the 50s. There's going to be one copy in this sale of, I'm sure you have this in your library, Brian, the 1953 edition of the wrestling fans book by Sid Feeder, the kind of oversized paperback. Yeah, I got a few of those.

Well, thank you very much. Well, I got one extra one and I'm going to sell it. But it's a fascinating book. All this information is going to be popping up on Saturday, June, or May the 3rd when the sale goes on. But I've also got two copies of one of Bobby Heenan's books, chair shots that he left here when he did an appearance. I think it was 2004, and he had two left and he didn't want to carry him back on a plane.

And I'm going to sell both of those. And in Bobby's honor, send that money also to the City of Hope as we do with our pink breast cancer pink variant. But anyway, there's, we've got down to the bottom of boxes. I've got 10 copies of the hardcover edition of Bighton. behind the curtain. I've got five more copies of Tuesday night at the gardens that I can autograph.

We've got some old Smoky Mountain Wrestling programs in mint condition bagged and boarded, but not a lot. I think there's, there's, I believe, two or three of the Night of Legends programs left. Some of the ringside reports. We've got some DVDs left if you missed out on the Night of Legends DVD or Smokey Mountain wrestling blood brawls and grudges. I think we got four. My trading cards

that I talked about that that guy was extorting money from me or extorting autographs from me and selling them for money. Remember I told you, and by the way, I sent him the letter saying, hey, fuck you in his self-addressed stamped envelope, saying, fuck you, you fucking

asshole, you've ruined it for everybody. I ain't signing shit anymore because you make me think you're a fucking fan that wants something signed and you sell it on eBay for $100 and $200 a piece, and fuck you, and then I signed the letter. I'm not going to sign this because you've had too many free autographs already, but you know who the fuck this is.

So what do you think about that? All right, at Cornett's Collectibles. Yeah, but I've got a bunch of my trading cards now, like the 2008 T&A cards. I've got 19 of one, nine of another, six of another. The WWF trading card, 22, of those that I'm signing personally and can authenticate,

don't be ripped off for hundreds of dollars on eBay or buy phony stuff. Guess what else I got? I found a stack, don't quit now. No, the things they do with pharmaceuticals these days are miraculous. I found a stack of my original, not reproductions, original 1993 publicity photo, my first one from the WWF.

A black and white, eight by ten glossy, as was still standard back in those days. And it's got the WWF logo on it, and Tom Buchanan took the picture. And obviously these are 32 years old, and I've had them in a bag, so you don't just find these laying around anymore. But I believe 80-something, I think,

is what I get. People will have a chance to get one of those signed and personalized by me. And some Smoky Mountain, the Smoky Mountain Wrestling event tickets. Did I tell you about this? No, what are those? I actually didn't know anything about this.

I've got a limited number again of Smoky Mountain Wrestling event tickets because when we ordered our first tickets and we got the role of general admission tickets, right? And if anybody has gone to the fair, when you see tickets coming off a roll, those are general admission tickets for the spot shows back in those days.

You just order them from a ticket company. And it'd say have your name of your company on it or whatever you wanted on it, and each one would be numbered. The printer spelled Smokey wrong, S-M-O-K-E-Y, Smokey Mountain Wrestling. And Sandy Scott comes up, he had just gotten the tickets in the mail like the week before our first spot show. I think it was the first, it was either the first TV taping that we did or the first spot show. And he said, look at this shit.

And that's what we sold on the first event because we had the tickets and we didn't have time to get them reprinted. And then I had the roll stuck in a box all this time. We got the tickets reprinted before our next show. So you can have a unique bit of nostalgia with regular untorn Smoggy about Wrestling General Admission tickets. Wow. That's beautiful. And there's some other things. and also we've gone through the whole figure supply,

and we have again taken a couple boxes that the clamshells were bashed in shipping or cracked or whatever and resheled them. And also I decided, you know me, I'm a hoarder, Brian, not even a collector. When I got the original figure, I put two boxes in the storage. I said, after I dies, I'll need these. I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. so we were able to of the figures that have been sold out come up with between 20 and 25 of a few of them and they will go on sale also included by the way on the announcer playset i'm looking at my notes we're down to four of them with the corner of the box crinkled so therefore we're selling them

for half price and the original christmas variant that they didn't paint my handker or put in a tennis racket. We're selling it. We've got 38 of those. We're selling for half price if you missed out on it from five or six years ago. That one's a good deal because that's actually, I guess, an error. It's a limited. Yes, that's why I redid with the current Santa Corny figures because they fucked up the first ones.

And we didn't, we sold them. People enjoyed them. They were the first Christmas variant, but I was personally miffed. And also, that's before that the toy company figured out that they were making enough money off of me. They could make a tennis rag. But as I said, those are half price. We do have, as I said, a couple of boxes of the original red and yellow action figure that was the one that started at all. And I think the raw variant and the bloody variant are 20-something.

Those are regular price because they're brand new. but there's also four or five bloody variants that the factory left out the tennis racket tray so we're selling those at $10 off. So basically it's Corny's vault sale. One of a kind, limited number

vintage items. We're going to have some older 60s and 70s wrestling magazines also on there and maybe some other things if we get time, but it's going to be cool for you classic wrestling collector. Saturday, May 3rd. at noon Eastern time.

And like you said, some stuff going back to the 50s, not everything involving you, just some things you actually collected that you weren't necessarily a part of. Yes, because, you know,

not everything has to be about me, just most things. Well, I'll step back every once in a while. It is my show. Anyway, what have we talked about? So,

do you even, I'm just good, I don't even know if this is worthy of spending any time on, but I also saw the Linda McMahon clip. Did you see that where she called, remember I said,

AI, when I first started seeing it, I thought, who's this owl guy? Well, apparently even I am smarter than the secretary of the Department of Education because she just did an interview on a political show, not a fucking wrestling site. And she's sitting on the couch with these other people had stared at her like she had steaming turds hanging out of her mouth.

She didn't call it AI. She called it A1. Oh, they have this A1. Have you seen her lately? I have. It looks like she's going to the same plastic surgeon. I fucked up Vince's face. The state of that, no, it's worse.

She looked. She's had so many facelifts. She ought to have nipples on her chin. but she was speaking like the elephant woman and the Secretary of Education her face is stretched so I don't know if it's too tight or sideways

because it's something's happening there and her makeup was done by a mortician she wanted all the facelifts because it would help her keep her eyes open all the time to see where Vince is but anyway how do you not know AI?

I mean forget about the fact that she is in the position she ridiculously bought herself into. Forget about that. Forget about the fact she was an executive for many years, but that's a while ago. Everything happening in the newspaper on the news. Doesn't matter

what you believe. Doesn't matter what side you're on on anything. Everyone's talking about AI, every business leader, everyone. How do you think it's A1? It's not a matter of whether you agree with it or not. It's how to pronounce the fucking word, the name. I even know that.

I've heard so many people talking about this fucking shit that I jokingly sometimes refer to it as our friend Al, but yes, it's AI, not A1, the steak sauce. That's a big, how the fuck do you mess that up? How old is Linda now? And I'm not talking about she's old and out of touch. I'm talking about, is there some decline here? Like there is with all the rest of her contemporaries

in her social circle. 76. Trombones led the United States. 110 more points dropped the Dow. Maybe she had steak for lunch. And she was thinking of the steak sauce.

Well, if that's the case, then she would have been more in favor of it than she was. She wanted the kids in schools to have it. A1. What a dingbat. All righty, but anyway, I've got, hold on here. Oh, also, I saw this. We want to send out our best to one of the cult of Cornette listeners.

It's a small town, so in case she might be the victim of harassment from some type of unsavory gangs, maybe the Van Buren boys or something up there, but she's from Chilicothe, Ohio, and her name is Hope. And we just wanted to say, thank you. for thanking us because she said I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you after years of hard work long nights and plenty of stress I'm finally graduating and through all of it your podcast has been a constant source of laughter and entertainment that kept me moving forward no matter how overwhelming school or life God I could always count on your wit humor and storytelling to brighten my day

whether it was a deep dive into wrestling history or a hilarious rant, your show made even the toughest days easier. So while you may not have been in the classroom with me, you were definitely part of the journey. I just wanted to share my appreciation and let you know that your work makes a difference even to a stressed out student, finally crossing the finish line. P.S., can you sign the enclosed 18 trading cards?

Oh, no, no, no, no, hey! No, I'm saying, no, really, really. But no, there was no, there was no request of anything, just a sentimental, let me take you on a sentimental journey, just a sentimental letter from Hope here, from Chilli, Cothe, Ohio. That's right up, right up a little farther north of here. And I wanted to say, congratulations, Brian, congratulate that she achieved her dream and her goals and has graduated.

I don't know. There's something suspicious about this whole thing. Chilacothy. You can't. You can't find out this is like Bobby Fulton, like emailing under the false name. What, no, but why would, I know Bobby Fulton isn't going to email me under a, if I just Bobby Fulton happens to be the most famous resident of Chilicothe, Ohio. That doesn't mean that he's the only one.

They've got, they got almost as many people up here in Chilicothea now as they do over in Fabersham. What did Hope graduate from, high school or college? well she didn't say she was a stressed out student who graduated i don't what do you need to goddam she didn't include a photocopy of her driver's license either or the diploma but i have no reason to doubt the veracity of her claims congratulations hope school sucks move on with your life uh all right well we can cross that off our list um did you see the dark side of the ring this past week I once again lit up the small screen the way I do the silver screen

with my witty and incisive commentary. But this week, Dark Side of the Ring was on the entire career, not just my involvement in of it, the man they call Vader. Are you up on Dark Side? I did see the episode, yes. And I thought they, again, they did a good job in this one because, you know, between myself, J.R. Mick, Nick Patrick, but also his family, his son, Jesse, and his ex-wife, his friend Dave, Dave's not here, man.

Stan Hanson, Jerry Briscoe, they got the budget must be increasing for the talking head. I wonder if I need to ask for a raise. You should tell them to make it Dark Side of the Rings starring Jim Cornette. Oh, come on now. That's what I would do if I was negotiating for you. I'm not, well, I know, but I'm not trying to hog the spotlight again. the magnitude of me, sometimes I need to pull back to give others the spotlight. For heaven's sake, I'm, you know, I'm nearing the sunset of my years.

I want to fade off slowly down Ventura Highway in the summertime. Anyway, we came back to Dark Side of the Ring on Vice TV. And Mick Foley, again, very articulate. Is it somehow has brain damage helped his goddamn verbal ability? He always comes up with a profound thing to say or a very articulate or insightful comment or whatever. I'm thinking maybe more of us ought to get whacked over there with a chair every couple of days for a few years. You want to go first, Brian? No, and maybe it's just a work.

Maybe he's perfectly fine. but he knows that if he keeps telling people he has brain damage, they'll be so surprised when he spits out a sentence. Because every time I see him, he seems like he's perfectly fine. Yes, I mean, I wish that... If I had fucking wrestling schools full of people who could talk like that, you know, it would be right as rain anyway. You know, it occurred to me that when they went into some of Leon's childhood,

which I was not aware of of the exact nature of the... rotten neighborhood he grew up in or some of the stories that his family told. But when they went into that he kind of found sports, you know, as a way as many people do to focus himself and he played football and he was, you know, pretty good in college, but then he was drafted by the Los Angeles Rams, but injuries at that point, which would play a part with him on and off, you know, because of his size all his life, but he was drafted by the Rams

but never actually got to play with him. He was drafted, as the graphic said, in 1978. But then they had him from previous footage that he'd recorded before he passed

telling a story about how he barged into the locker room in Denver. He's from Colorado and told Bruiser Brody that he was there and found a job. and trained in the AWA, which he did. I had not heard the, had you heard the Brody story about,

because I hadn't heard it. I had not heard that before, no. But it makes sense that Brody was working for Vern at that point in time. You can imagine Leon White, he said he got all dressed up, right? He needs a job. He sees wrestling on TV.

I can see him going down there and being somebody in the community, I can see him somewhere or another, bluffing his way in the locker room and I can see bruiser Brody standing up and saying, who the fuck are you? I just had never heard that story, but

he wanted a job and however he went down there, he made a connection. Vern did break him in. Who trained him? But didn't he actually saying this thing? Who trained them? Well, see, that's the thing is I don't know specifically, but in that era, I would imagine that Brad Rangans may have had something to do with it.

in the mid-80s. Because they mentioned that Brody, you know, had that conversation quickly in the locker room, which I had never heard before. And then the next thing in the show is him and Brody wrestling in the ring. Like, that was how he was taught,

which clearly was not. Well, yeah, this was a gloss over because we got to get to, you know, the rest of his life. But that's another thing is his family didn't provide him perspective on, he would have talked to Brody in the AWA

and barged in or whatever, somewhere around 84-ish because he was already in the ring by 85, and they would have given him some level of training. And that's why I'm thinking, as I recall, probably Greg Gagne, you know, had something to do with it. But I think Ringens was starting to at that time work with the camp guys that they might have as Vern's camps were slowing down. Point being, what did he do between being drafted but not playing in 1978 and

1984. He was kind of floating. See, that's something else we've talked about before is Leon started late. I mean, he picked things up quick, but for the sake of his athletic prime, he started late when he was already somewhere around 30.

I can't remember the exact age. But then you see him working with Hanson and Brody in the stiff shit. And, you know, we've talked about this also, that Leon Baby Bull White and he was bull power for Otto Vons in Germany, Austria was not exactly a bafo gimmick

and he was green as a pepper tree he was starting from scratch but when they gave him the Vader gimmick in Japan and at the you know for a first however long all he had to do was steamroll people he got in the ring with World Club talent and

picked it up and how to work as himself and the basic concept of you know try not to kill people and make it look good very quickly but at that point when they get into the the Japanese stuff

I'm glad they had a hansson there for the eyeball thing that was just grotesque but you you can literally see Leon with his fucking fingers kind of pushing it back in and closing his shit over the top of it. That was just nasty.

But you know Stan Hanson is as blind as a bat. He's so near-sighted. The glasses are not a gimmick. They didn't even bring up the fact that was a big inter-promotional match. It was a dream match. It was New Japan versus All Japan. I don't know that the Vice TV audience on Tuesday night

was... They left a lot of stuff. I have to say, I was so disappointed with this. There was some good stuff in it, but it wasn't like, I really liked the first episode. they gloss past stuff they introduce things the timeline was just completely out of whack you know at one point it went the very end it was just like all of a sudden we went from here to he's dead yeah i mean about that a ton of shit just a ton of shit well we will well they only had 45 minutes but yeah we're we're gonna tell that because they made a couple more leaps here i mean they're fully saying that the whole thing when him and vader elevated

WCW. It didn't do anything for WCWCW. WCWCW. WCW. He was dead. It elevated Mick Foley's career. It got more. That got more attention on Mick Foley and Cactus Jack in 93 than anything else had up to that point. Yeah. Even, and the reason why

that it got the attention to him was because they edited it, remember? When he agreed to have Vader hardwame and came up with the idea and wanted him to and had him hardwave and they showed one eye punch on this on the highlights here.

But WCW, they ordered the cameras to pull back and they edited some of the shit because they thought it was too violent. So he got beat up and most of it didn't make air. But because of the cacophony from, at the time, the emerging smart fan base and people who heard about it,

that got more talk about Mick than having seen it. Go ahead. No, but also I think another thing that's kind of important, especially with the narrative they tried to weave here. you know, Vader lost the fight to Paul Orndorf and his wife said that was kind of the beginning of the end. Yeah.

Nothing went right in WWE. He went to UWFI. Remember, they brought him in to be the guy to help get Takata over. Not that Takana wasn't already over. But that's a pretty big thing. It was the credibility of Vader being a badass that he could fit in with those guys over in UWFI. And that's what they were looking for.

But that was all around that same period of time, too. and the Hogan stuff, they pointed at the Hogan stuff. If you remember the Baltimore pay-per-view, fans brought a giant sign that they hung from the top that said shoot Vader shoot. Like they want, the fans wanted it. They made it sound like, oh, it was kind of an impasse because Hogan works soft and Vader was big and bad.

The fans really wanted something to happen. A lot of WCW fans at that point. Oh, yeah, because they were already sick of Hoke to begin with at that point. But now the one thing, though, I agree with you, the UWFI was a big, deal, but what his wife said was that was really the start of the decline, not maybe necessarily financially in his career at that point, but him starting to make bad decisions. That was the

start of that. And I think that, you know, that you can probably say it was right, because everything had gone, you know, great for Vader around the world until that point. And then he's out of WCW and oh and after the Joe Thurman they had Joe Thurman yeah I've never seen him interviewed I couldn't believe what he looked like now and well he looks he looks better now that he did then I didn't even think it was the same guy

yeah good back break it's good for you I guess 20 years later but you know I'm trying knowing Leon right but also I'm trying to listen to Joe Thurman's description of what happened. Would he say, you know, can you take the power bomb? Yeah, yeah, okay, see out there. I can see that.

And it was a handicap match, and it was Vader. It's not like they're going to set up any spots ahead of time. And Thurman said, as soon as they got in the ring, he said, they're playing into the story that Leon became Vader. which we've talked about and got his head mad, sometimes he couldn't turn it off right away. But Thurman said in the ring, it changed. As soon as he picked him up,

he's like, come here, you little son of a bitch, you're going to go up for this or whatever he said. From just the highlights that they showed, it looks like that maybe Joe Thurban, when Leon first did whatever he did, I think did he reach out in one of those bare paws to the head, Thurman kind of delayed and kind of staggered like he didn't go down on something

or the chest bump or whatever because I think he was probably like what the fuck was that? I don't know what to do. And then Leon hammered him and I'm thinking it was, could Leon have been mad because he didn't take a bump? But I don't, they didn't show the whole match

unedited, but I could only see in that situation, and Leon just out of nowhere saying, you're going to go up for this, you little son of a bitch, or you sack of shit or whatever, if something previously had been like, what the fuck does this guy have any idea what he's doing?

But nevertheless, on the power bomb, it looked to me like he threw him more out of disgust, like, here, this is over with, than he did trying to throw him down with any force but when he did that he over rotated even the guy's fucking knees came up over his shoulders

so it's no wonder he broke his back but uh Jesus Christ and it looked but now when they when that and I was about to say one more thing they said Leon in the locker room afterwards and I fully believe this because and Mick said it he wouldn't lie, was upset and distraught and et cetera. I believe that.

But Thurman said as soon as he looked, Vader looked down at him, you could see that he was upset or he was distraught or whatever. No, the footage they showed of the actual incident is Susan Leon got up, he looked down at him like, you stupid motherfucker. So I think it was, he thought that he had just powerbombed the guy and covered him a guy couldn't work or whatever and he thought he was a piece of shit and then when he realized

or somebody told him well yeah he's fucked up then he legitimately did get you know concerned but he didn't know right away that's the point I was going to make what did you think about what they said about his reaction afterwards where he went to Joe Thurman in the hospital and he was crying about it and his wife talked about

how emotional he could be at times did you ever see that side of him yes yes see that's why I'm saying I believe all of that because it just wouldn't have happened in the ring. It would have been when he got back and saw something was wrong and people were upset. And then it would go the complete other way. Remember, the guy who works himself up to go and be Vader and his son referenced it,

that time in, it was Tulsa when he pulled Michaels' hair too hard and fucking Michael's fired up some kind of comeback and Leon took a bump, rolled out of the ring. and he had tears in his eyes because he just said if I pull his hair like that one more time, he said, it'll be my job. And then, you know, again, he could be pissed off about something, but he would see a kid in a wheelchair over in the corner and he'd be over there with tears puddling up in his eyes. He was just back and forth, boom, boom, which was, you know, at points,

he had admitted that it was hard for him to turn off Vader and his, wife apparently at one point was scared to leave him because she thought he might kill her but then otherwise yes he would get all or he'd get he'd get meaningful like he'd have a sit down to but mr mcmand it would be so much more beneficial to the athletes if we could have a full set of barbells on the ring truck or whatever i mean he would go and make pitches like that like Remember when he first started cussing out the the commenter the announcer, the TV host in Saudi Arabia

right before he started snatching me and he said frankly I'm insulted by your insinuation he would start out like that and suddenly he'd snatch him motherfucker you know his emotions were back and forth the Sean Michael's stuff here was really interesting obviously we got to see you the most fired up

you've been in several seasons on this show but, you know, that's what led to Sid getting his run, leading to the Alamodone, was the fact that Sean didn't want to work with Vader, wouldn't, and, you know, his wife said Sean was Vince's boy, and Vader would never be anyone's boy. And again, I think the more you look at that period of time and the strange control that Sean Michaels had over Vince, considering he wasn't doing good business, there's still a lot questions that need to be answered about why why was so much allowed

from Sean Michaels I've never under it is buddy Rogers drew money you know buddy Rogers is a pain against but buddy Rogers drew money Sean Michaels didn't and I I've I've said before a million times I've never seen

then and not only Michaels but his circle whatever his circle was around him the level of put up inness with stuff from anybody but and there's something Vince saw something about himself in Sean some of the boyhood dream

that you could see the gleam in his eye but a lot of people think that Vince saw a lot of himself in Sean Michaels well you know what I mean but nevertheless but the point is that did sabotage Vader's run because and I've mentioned this and it wasn't like that Vince told me this because I was

talent involved in the match and they always tell talent bullshit. I was on the creative team. This was the creative meeting. We were planning the structure of the pay-per-views and the schedule for the company for the next six months. And originally, SummerSlam 96, it would be Michael's Invader, as it was,

in Cleveland, I believe we were. And the reason they did the, Brian, I can't put one for, in front of another without seeing it in front of me, but they did two false finishes and two restarts, as I think you'll remember. And then finally, Michael's got a quick one, as Vince used to say, but there was room, but there was, there was, there was controversy, there was room for rematches. Originally, again, before that match even came up, Vader was probably going to go over a bit stronger at

or they were going to throw it out at SummerSlam is what I'm trying to say with some kind of disputed finish that nobody would get pinned then Vader was going to win the title from Michaels at the Royal or that

Survivor Series in November and that would culminate in January as everybody recalls which was in San Antonio Texas at the Alamo Dome, and they didn't do stadiums back then. But Vince wanted to, with a cheap general admission ticket in Sean Michaels's hometown, draw 50,000 people or whatever it was, to see Michael's beat Vader and win the title back.

That was the three pay-per-view program that he wanted to do before the whole thing got started. and by the time that again, they did house show matches beforehand in those days between guys. So by the time during July or early August, whatever it was, that Leon had worked with Michaels in the house shows, they changed the SummerSlam finish

to instead of just being thrown out in all the confusion, they threw it out twice and then it had a quick one. So Michael's at least left with a win. and then by shortly after that, Vader was ex-nade out of Survivor Series and Royal Rumble. And if you remember the Survivor Series crowd in New York turned on Sean Michaels.

They made Sid the big baby face that night. It was a really interesting dynamic. And again, Sean Michaels kind of got away with everything. And for anyone who's new to the show, Jim did a watchalong of that match, Sean versus Vader at SummerSlam, and that's on the YouTube. channel. Yes, and that's why I was so pissed off, because I could understand Michael's being a

prick was not news at that point, right? Uh, was not, you know, just goddamn, oh, my God, this is unheard of, but actually in the middle of a fucking main event world title match on paper view and in front of whatever was, 18,000 or 20,000 people in Cleveland to just stop and go move i said move you dumb motherfucker and just ah i couldn't believe it not even he could have grabbed a chin lock on even if whispered in his ear i hate you and i'm going to get you fired but don't scream it in front of the people but anyway nevertheless um Vince lost interest we've covered these things about his WWF stay and as Jim Ross said Leon also was high maintenance.

You couldn't get him happy or healthy both at the same time. Hey, Jim Ross said something here about the Duke Weight Loss Clinic. I know you've always talked about in the past with Yokozuna. I didn't realize Yokozuna went there with Vader? Can I be honest with you? Yeah. As Ernie Ladd said to me one time when he was courting us for Vince McMahon in 1986, have I ever lied to you?

I'm not trying to cast aspersions on J.R.'s veracity, but his memory at this point in time of events from 30 years ago may be conflated because no, they didn't go at the same time, but Yoko went. He went and he's the one that had the underground railroad for fried chicken going on. Leon, I don't believe actually got sent to Duke. It was discussed because it had happened with Yoko Zuna before. But Leon is the one who, J.R. on Vince's behest, had to negotiate a weight clause into his contract because he got, I'm going to say, up to 440. And it just, you know, that was too much, especially at his age. So, and there was much consternation. Leon was very insulted that, you know, but he had played in the NFL.

hell. And it wasn't like that, you know, should have been a big shock. But nevertheless, that's, but JR remembers them hanging out in bunk beds. Boy, can you see the size of those bunk beds over at Duke losing weight and eating chicken. But anyway, so that, I think Mick Foley, again, he put it best with Leon's run in the WWF. he was browbeaten until he lost his mojo. And I think that's kind of, you know, the thing, unfortunately. And then, you know, his wife said he, you know, he had a pain pill issue.

His son had gone to college and his wife had left him. So he's drinking and sleeping for days at a time. And I guess that was probably out of, Brian, you kept up with that stuff at that point in time. Better than I did. but when he went into the diabetic coma in Japan, was that potentially the end of his Japanese deal? They generally didn't like boys going into comas over there. See, that's the thing I actually have to go back and look at.

It definitely wasn't, I mean, I got to see the timeline, because it went from, he left WWF to he goes into the coma to he's dead. There's a lot of time. He returned to Raw made a few guest appearances. They didn't always turn out. Well, I remember when he tripped, and I think it was because of his weight maybe. Yeah. But he made returns.

But also, yeah, there was like 15 years, 18 years or whatever. I mean, I saw him Russell Will Osprey. Yes. So, I mean, it's not like, you know, he just left WWF and got sick and died. I don't know about how many Japan tours he did after the fact. I mean, it didn't stop Japan from bringing Terry Gordy over. It may have stopped Baba, but it didn't stop him from going to Japan. I'm thinking that, and again, you know, it's just going off a memory,

that Leon was away from the wrestling business for quite a while. The early 2000s, I think, would have wrapped up anything he did in Japan, except maybe, you know, an appearance, but not any type of regular wrestling. And I remember because he talked about it when I managed him, he had an interest in some type of real estate, whether it was a strip mall or commercial property, whatever, in Colorado.

and manage that. But then suddenly, what, mid-20 teens, he started popping up doing fan fest and conventions again. He hadn't been around in a while. And that's why I saw him in Lexington at Lexcon one year. And he did the thing with Osprey. For a little while there, he did some more matches. And then he announced that he,

the doctors had given him two years to live with congestive heart failure. but yeah, this episode went from the early 2000s to, well, I've announced I've got two years to live. There's 15 years in between. And then as I recall, after he had his quadruple bypass and the initial heart issues, he was still able, was he not, to do some limited autograph sessions or whatever? and then, you know, he obviously caught sick and they said pneumonia and went into a coma

and passed away in the hospital. What was it like when you ran into him? What was his reaction? Because obviously you managed him and you hadn't seen him in many years. You know, was he warm and everything? Yeah, well, was he warm? Did he hug you?

We went for the classic wrestler handshake and the hug at the same time with the left arm. Yes, we did that. and his booth was next to mine, and they had given him one of the fan fest helpers, but I tried to clue him in on what some of the shortcuts were around the area. And, you know, we chatted back and forth when we weren't busy, but no there was no issue or anything like that,

but I think that's another thing when he told me what he'd been doing. He made it sound more interesting maybe than it sounded like from this show. but yeah, that, you know, that's the thing he did, but I will say that it seemed like that he didn't understand the fan fest circuit or the independent circuit that he was still trying to hold everybody to the state. Well, you know, it's like the NFL players, they would do this for them. Yeah, this ain't that. Well, but anyway, dark side of the ring, Vader, and of course,

next week is the Tony Atlas episode. Yeah, Mr. USA Tony Atlas, and I don't, I don't, I want you to watch it, Tuesday nights at 10 o'clock folks, Eastern time on Vice TV. I don't think I'm on this one. I'm not sure. I can't remember. We talk about so many things. But one way or another, it's going to be a good program even if I'm not on it.

It just won't be, I mean. They just won't be the They just won't be one of the more popular episodes because you've been on every episode this season and everyone thinks of you they should really make a dark side of the ring starring Jim Cornett. What about dark side of Jim Cornett starring the ring?

Oh, I don't know if you're prepared for that. Well, but anyway, nevertheless, folks, and Brian, you'll agree. We just talked about Vader's. You'll agree with this. You know, being in the hospital is no fun under any circumstances, but one of the biggest problems,

when you're in the hospital and you're hooked up to a machine and you're waiting to see if Aunt Fannie or Cousin Jr. is going to come in to pull the plug, it's really adding insult to injury when you're laying on one of those hospital mattresses, isn't it? I mean, you know those, it's like a beanbag. And they're little teeny tiny, they're so wide you can't turn over,

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It looked like that you've been eaten by piranhas. But yeah, the hospital bed mattresses are, they're so wide you can't get around them, so low you can't get under them, and so high you can't get over them. You just don't want to be anywhere near them. Again, I don't know what the hell you're talking about or where you're going with all this, but we do know some people that instead of whatever mattresses you're talking about, make the finest mattresses that can be delivered directly to you at home.

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We just reviewed AEW Dynasty from Philadelphia. It's fresh on my mind still. And I just got this morning's Wrestling Observer newsletter. Now you want to see after we've said what we've said. said you want to see if Uncle Dave agrees with us now at this point. You've got to figure at some point there'll be a meeting in the middle, as opposed to him being on a scale that ends in infinity. Which is it keeps going out there into the distance. Maybe that explains a lot. I think Dave is an AEW supporter, and that's another word for a jock strap, and I think that's what the service

that he's performing here. Well, of course, AEW Dynasty, Jim, you did not watch much of the pre-show from what I remember. Nick Wayne, action. Andrety and Leo Rush defeated Dante and Darius Martin on his top flight and A.R. Fox 11 minutes, 17 seconds, four and a quarter stars.

Now, for the record, you didn't see it. It was a exciting match, and Lela Gray looked amazing at ringside. I'm sure she did. That's a star right there. How does this get a fucking higher rating than gone? with the wind in the fucking official movie rating book.

Right. What? Again, these, this used to be flare and steamboat numbers. This was reserved for the, the peace de resistance instead of the piece de pie face of the, okay, yeah, the pre-show match was

Kurt Angle-like in its intensity. Well, again, for the record, you didn't see it. match two Anthony Bowens defeated Max Castor 40 seconds no star rating given well now why leave them out what did it accomplish what it was supposed to accomplish it's not about the star rating is not

graded with or concurrent on or whatever the dependent on the time of the match you can have a stinker that goes 45 minutes or a fucking barn burner that goes six So what of the presentation that they was supposed to do there? How was it? See, he's slacking in his goddamn duties. We're going now to the main card.

Will Osprey defeated Kevin Knight, 13 minutes, 50 seconds, 4 and a half stars. Again, the way you can look at this is we're entering like Undertaker and Sean Michael's level of match, but at the same time, you can also say that Will Osprey, their top baby face against one of their new baby faces for little or any good purpose, was only a quarter of a star better than the fucking eight-man scrambled eggs pre-show match. Which makes better sense.

You know, every show for Dave is like a male dream slam. Remember when all Japan women had like a six-hour show every match was five stars? Every AEW show is like his dream slam. Actually, thankfully, Brian, I don't remember that. And my life is better for it. Well, Jim, the next match, Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin, the Hurt Syndicate, defeated Big Bill and Brian Keith 10 minutes, 28 seconds, two and a half stars. Oh, he must be, Dave must be moonlighting as the president of the Brian Keith fan club.

He didn't like that one. You know what he wrote here at the end? He, you know, he describes a little bit about what happened when MJF getting involved. It was fine. All right, that's a new one. Mercedes Monet defeated Julia Hart, 12 minutes, 55 seconds. Once again, two and a half stars. Okay, now, obviously we said that the Hurt Syndicate match was a TV match with a TV angle at the end,

but nobody, you know, like took a shit and wiped their face in it, middle of the ring, but it was the same as the awkward ladies match that that followed that. I guess two and a half is that now his dud? Can you get lowered than two and a half unless you wipe the feces on your face? Well, we shall find out.

Jim, speaking of fecese? Hey, there's old feces face. We were you to pack and Claudio Castignoli defeated FTR and Adam Copeland 14 minutes 53 seconds four and a half stars. Oh, Jesus Christ.

What did he give? Was it five stars or was it four and three quarter perhaps that he gave FTR and juice and old light switch Jay White a couple of years ago that had the greatest tag team match of modern times? It was at least five stars. It may have actually gone past it, but I don't know. I don't know, but it wasn't this dog. Isn't that what they say?

It wasn't this, dog. Well, you know, and it says 14 minutes, 53 seconds, maybe that's what he did, because the match felt like it was double the length, he doubled the star rating. It was two stars. It became four and a half. They started, they had sex and procreated the stars did during the length of this contest. Jim, timeless Tony Storm defeated Megan Bain 15 minutes, 24 seconds, four-star match.

Okay. again, even if you like all of the participants and you like everything in the world and potentially you're on some form of liquid ecstasy, I don't know, this is the same guy that would award an all-time classic four stars in his previous life

before he lost his mind. But now suddenly this is morphed into, well, they get four stars, because it can be more stars. He established something, but now he's so afraid of hurting these people's feelings that he just starts making up that more stars is fine. And they feel good because they got four stars from the teacher.

Well, Jim, the next match, Kyle Fletcher, defeated Mark Briscoe, 16 minutes, 11 seconds. I thought you were going to say 16 stars. four and three quarter stars okay what was the girls match a second ago four stars okay so again you're saying that i agree with you kyle and briscoe was much much better much better than storm and and drung or whatever the fuck. But there's, it has to still be in the four star range.

It's just now levels of, of excellence that he bestows upon them. You know, I almost wonder what you said before is two and a half dud is four like the baseline. And anything under four is negative stars.

Like it's two and a half stars now Dave's negative two stars 15 years ago. I don't, wait a minute. That's what he's doing. Brian, you've figured it out accidentally. He's on the Celsius. He's on a Celsius star rating.

Maybe, maybe so. See, you've got to translate it to the Fahrenheit. Well, Jim, for the Ring of Honor title, Bandito, defeated Chris Jericho, the Frito. It's 16 minutes, 22 seconds. Good Lord. Three and a quarter stars. I don't know, maybe that's the new dud.

I don't, I, you know, he'll, he'll, he'll kind of halfway be honest about Jericho's desiccated corpse and give him only three and a half, which, you know, is kind of still a kind of backhanded slap. Well, Jim, in 15 minutes and 34 seconds of a no time limit, everyone barred from ringside match, whereas we used to call it a match. Adam Cole won the TNT title from Daniel Garcia. Three and a quarter stars. Ooh. So again there, he's having to begrudgingly admit that it ain't happening here. See, now you're, he's establishing a pattern.

These are the people that only are above average, they should feel slighted. Kenny Omega defeated Rickache and Speedball Mike Bailey, 30 minutes, 56 seconds. Jesus Christ. Four and three-quarter stars. And actually on this topic, I have not heard this, but I see Melchrist. Well, and by the way, hold on a second now.

I really think that that should be a different score, Brian, because in that match in particular with those participants, they should have scored this under the Olympic method with the 9.0 and 9.1 and 9.2 and 9.2 and give it a perfect 10. Or maybe he wants to back off and just make it a 9.8. So nobody will accuse him a favoritism, but still it shouldn't be just a.

standard four and three quarters like the mere mortals that aren't stars of their own video game. Well, I was going to say before, the Meltzer said what account, Jim? Tweeted out a couple of things. One of them apparently are some of the guys who go to Dave's pay-per-view parties at his house saying that he got mad when they were laughing at some of the silly stuff in the match. Oh, good God. Because he was taking it very seriously. But here's some audio. Let's see what this is. I have not heard this. Tweeted out by Meltzer said what? here's what he wrote. Jesus Christ,

Meltzer has now proclaimed the AEW Dynasty triple threat match with Kenny Rickishay and Speedboat as one of the greatest three ways in the history of wrestling.

North Korean propaganda has nothing on Uncle Dave. Let's hear what we're saying. We just had a pay-per-view on Sunday night. And usually you hype like this pay-per-view was great by the replay.

I mean, they may have mentioned that, but I do not recall anything that got me to where like, oh man, I need to see this replay. And like, and he clearly loved the entire fucking thing. So that says something. But besides that, he's already fucking seen it. Why does he have seen the replay?

Is the replay more for people who have already seen it or for people that missed it? I would think it's for people that missed it. Oh, you missed it? Well, now you can get it. Instead of, oh, you've already seen it. it, we'll watch it again. To pay for it again? Is that a large segment of the audience?

I'm not sure. Let's go back to this audio here. Focused on, because there was like strong stuff. I mean, there's the hit, you know, the significance of the finish of the main event, you know, with the Young Buck's return and all that. The three-way was, you know, one of the better three-way matches in the history of wrestling. It was fantastic. Let's stop there for a second. we watched it.

It went a while. Again, there was some stuff that looked ridiculous in it. You promoted some of the first three-way matches in this country. We've seen good ones and bad ones. Was that one of the best ever? No, of course not. And again, I'm not going to say, oh, and mine were, you know, when the dirty white boy wrestled Tray then.

No, but when you think about, to be honest, before they were again prostituted out and worn down and made just blazee and every day. Some of the three ways that went on on those WWF paper views in the late 90s, Taker and Michael and whoever the fuck else, I would go for that or I'd go for some of the modern T&A stuff or whatever if people, you know, had that in their mind. but all of those incidents, you had stars involved. This is, again, because Dave has gone out of his mind to fetishize these fetishize these gymnasts and the cheerleading alley-oop routines and the, oh my gosh,

and ignore the fact that most of this stuff, again, looks phony as fuck. There's no good reason to be doing it. There's no good reason to have the match. There's no story. There's no angle. There's no seeking retribution or triumph or whatever. It's just, oh, gosh, here's a bunch of fucking guys that do spots that are going to get together and vault with each other.

And that in Dave's mind is at the same time he'll say, but you need story in wrestling. And he's looking at the other company making a bloody fucking fortune. going in exactly the opposite direction and doing as little as possible, and he still can't get it. Not everybody is sitting there beating off on the fucking three cart wheels into a goddamn have-a-corona over the fucking top rope. And people are getting hurt on simpler shit than that because they're rushing and doing so much.

But that's a story for later on. Let's go back to this audio from, I guess, Wrestling Observer Radio. You know, the tournament matches, the Will Osprey match, Mercedes match. I mean, there's, you know, the different championship matches up and down, Tony Storm Megan Bain, which is a great match. I mean, they really should have, like, just, we had another great pay-per-view because it's like, you know, people buy these things for the next two weeks, especially the first week out. And it was almost like they gave up on this one for whatever reason, rather than tried to get late buys and tried to hype it after the fact. because did they do anything like do the announcers ever talk about how great the three-way was

because that should have been the main selling point is oh boy back to this the best three ways of all time and you got to see it to believe it 30 minutes and blah blah blah and i don't recall them doing that and when kidding was out you know he didn't talk about the match at all he was which i mean because it was a throwaway match that's what you don't seem to get there you gave it a bunch of stars but it was a throwaway match he probably shouldn't have because his focus should be on the future thing but the announcers, I mean, there should have been, they showed clips of the pay-per-view, but I don't think they did any hard sales to buy the pay-per-view,

which was another thing that was kind of like, stop watching the show going, like, why aren't you talking about the pay-per-view that just happened? You know, I mean, WWE would have these freaking newspaper, you know, and website clippings on the top and hyping like, you missed this, and everything like that, and EW just kind of nothing on that. And you missed Hong Kong Fooey in his greatest moment. Lots of things happen. The greatest three-way match in wrestling history.

Man, it's not going to really sell any pay-per-views, I don't think. But let's go back. We have one last match here, Jim. John Moxley defeated Swerve Strickland, 31 minutes, 28 seconds, 3 and 3 quarter stars. Oh, see, now he's, straddle in the middle.

Some people really like this, but some people really hated this, and I don't want to alienate any of the rest of my dwindling fucking audience that I have sway over, so I'm going to put it in the middle because it's controversy. She many Christmas.

And obviously from that audio, he thought this was just one of the great paper. Everyone should go out of their way to see it. It didn't feel that way watching it. And again, I'm sorry, but they do so much. that they invariably have so many fucking fumpfers and flummoxes that, you know, I'm just used to looking, I'm sorry, I apologize,

I was trained to look at talent with a major league eye. If you can get all the way through your dance routine without slipping and busting your ass, then I will give you more points than if you goddamn did 14 pirouettes and then fucking blue explosive diarrhea in the judge's direction. I think I've made my point abundantly clear. I don't care if he really is a blackout. Speedball Bailey doing the move where he just jumps and does a kick from one side to the other,

back and forth, back to the floor. It's a funny-looking thing. It doesn't look like he's really kicking a shit out of him. It looks like he's learned some kind of dance that'll be Lincoln Center this fall. It's fucking, yes, Nurea would be proud. But not fucking Emilianoco. I don't, yeah.

Well, Melzoronko, really like the pay-per-view, and those are the star ratings from the Wrestling Observer for AEW Dynasty. Well, would you like to go into AEW Dynamite from this past Wednesday night, April the 9th in the Charm City of Baltimore? They've lost their charm. I think they'll have pitchforks if they do another one of these. Brian, I keep saying, nobody will do anything. different. It's the same old stuff week after week. Nobody will do something different. Change things up a little bit.

Get my attention and they took me to their word and they did something different. And I'm going to have to say that the first 35 minutes of this wrestling program was without doubt and fear of contradiction the worst consecutive 35 minutes of a wrestling show I've ever seen in my life. I mean, they gave it all to us. here. They had a nonsensical slow interview to start, followed by a boring match, followed by a fucking horrible multi-part interview followed by another fucking match where they, I said, well, they only left do is carry somebody out. And son of a bitch, they got there. And they hurt somebody. And they exposed the business while they were hurting the guy. and that was in 35 minutes.

I'm astonished. I didn't know it was possible. To be fair, they had a big finale with the puking in the ring. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, the puking did. That was the icing on the cake. The puking in the ring. But I'm talking about just this, because they did break the first 35 up for just a second

because then I believe, no, wait a minute. they didn't it was still rotten but it wasn't as rotten as that it was rotten in kind of the jade cargill debut way for me i got a kick out of it for all the wrong reasons because i got to a point where i really believed you know what tony's going to go commercial free and nothing's going to ever end it's just going to go right into the next thing and your head's going to spin like wait what's happening now and then it just goes into the next thing you know maybe he is a great booker but he didn't even do that he didn't even do that the silliness uh for the most of the most of the most of the part ended at a certain point.

And well, they opened up with the, the pre-tape promo in the back with the cinematic camera effect, where one's in the front, ones to the side of Dick the Boozer and the four horsemen, where, again, he's wonderfully articulate

if the idea of using words is to just string them together. But it's talking in circles. Nobody still knows what he's talking about or what the fuck he wants or is trying to do. It's all riddles and nonsense. And he does that. And then they play the music and here he comes with Marina Schaefer through the arena.

And I swear to God to open the show, his opponent is Shippooopee. And the first almost, go ahead. Like, you know, we talked about Raka versus Ricky Stardy other day. That was a dream match match at a century at one point for some fans. This match here for this century. The man whose brain was removed versus the man with no brain. That's a big deal.

Why isn't Dave making a big deal about that? That should be hyped up. The Shepoope's gimmick is he's the wrestler because he has absolutely no charisma or personality whatsoever. So they do the silly phone thing with him. the phone translator and he's somehow not only a wrestler but because he's the wrestler fellow, he gets

to just not sell when people just hit him. But he doesn't react either, register as the boys used to say. You don't have to sell something, but you have to register it to show that it was a legitimate blow, but they don't

understand these nuances. But they both, so they think they're both shooters, and I don't know whether Shupi might be a goddamn other kawada, who knows, but we know that the boozer gets stretched at the, you know, by the Home Depot clerk in the amateur Jiu-Jitsu tournaments in Newport on weekends. But for the first almost three minutes, they worked either amateur wrestling or mixed in with the amateur jiu-jitsu.

Worked is the description, It was almost stationary. It was a slow pace. There was no aggression. They're going through the moves of these things, but I've watched legitimate world-class wrestlers do this shit. And before everybody's got, oh, fuck you, Cornyn and it's all fair. I'm talking about, I was there when Kurt Angle broke into business.

We've had him in fucking training, and Shelton Benjamin and Brock Leicester for that matter. and a few more NCAA champions, Sylvester Turquay, I know what it looks like when they, when they at a top level want to try to aggressively have a friendly little shoot. This wasn't it. Have I made my point, Brian? I believe so.

But Moxley thinks that he's so over that he can show this MMA expertise and people are going to go, wow. And it's just, so they do three minutes of this, and then Moxley pie faced him and Shepoopi slapped him. So then they traded the chops where Shepoopi doesn't even react. He stands there and lets Moxley chop him and then stood there and let Moxley kick him in the head four times. Did the big old big boogey boom, bruiser, brodie, boom.

Do it again. And then as soon as they did that, he got the abdominal. stretch on Moxley. I said, what the, they're good for their amateur wrestling, they're trading chops, they're goddamn, they're kicking each other in the head, then they're going to an abdominal stretch. And then Moxley just started beating him up. And then Moxley gave him a pile driver, and he stood right up and just kicked

Moxley in the face. And even, even Tony Chabani said, well, I've never seen a guy get pile driven and just stand right up before. Well, maybe they put a special plate in his head when they removed his brain. It makes sense. Well, that's what they need to start marketing now is he's got the goddamn brainplate. And then... Maybe they could just call him that, the brain plate, Shabbata.

The... But point being, they did this, and then within five minutes, I guess, out of nowhere, Shabada gets the sleeper, and Moxley reaches up and rakes his... eyes and reversed the sleeper and took him down and choked him and the referee rang the bell. And it was just, it never got going with anything, but

there was no pro wrestling in it. There was some going through the motions, MMA at half speed or amateur wrestling or strong style stuff. But it was boring as fuck. Death Jitsu. It was death

ratings. but so that was that. But then the music plays and out representing the Lollipop Guild from the land of Lilliput comes the Buccaroos wearing more weird shit. I don't know what the fuck's happening here. Old Nicky looked like he was the matri-Dat-a-Swingers club.

and basically when they come out and Marina leave and the buckaroos get on the microphone and they start to end every the announcer is saying oh the EVPs and they're doing their promo whereas EVPs are that Brian they've been gone six months now right

at least maybe more than it Okay. They got on the, what are they on now, not Netflix with the big boys. They're on Max. Max. And they're supposed to have gotten a new audience. Yeah, allegedly. Allegedly.

But even last time when they were back, they were just the EVPs. And they had dropped Tony Kahn on his head and et cetera. But shouldn't, just in case there are any new viewers, shouldn't somebody be trying to explain why these two turd blossoms are executive vice presidents of this promotion? Or does that just make the whole thing look more hogwash and made up and bullshit? If anybody had just started watching this thing a few months ago, who are these fucking guys? What the fuck? And why why in the world would they, of all people, be vice presidents?

these cheesy, snide-faced little whippets. And when they tried, they tried to take over AEW, and they hurt Tony Kahn, and they wanted to assert their positions as EVPs. But then when Moxley started trying to do the same thing, the last time we saw them, they were burning their memos and fucking running all.

off in fear and now they come back and help him. So naturally, what they are addressing is, everybody wants to know why. Yeah, because it don't make you fucking sense. And they did it for Adam Page. They screwed Swerve for Adam Page. They did it for him, his friend. And of course, at that point,

the fans started chanting Swerve's house because at least that's fun for him. I'm just thinking this they're dressed in these ludicrous outfits they look like children they can't fucking talk and then they also they consider what they did for moxley a peace offering they want to see the locker room rise to the occasion and change the world just like they did how there's a locker room rising the occasion by the way you're always trying to pour bleach down their throat or whatever the fuck moxley's doing and to rise to the occasion, doesn't that mean they're asking for somebody to beat the shit out of them?

Yeah, what occasion? The occasion is, the same one as Moxley, to rise to the occasion, somebody needs to beat the shit out of you. That's what you want to see. And that will change the world. It doesn't, it's goddamn, it's gibberish.

And Maddie's delivery is so staging. He'll, watch this interview, back when they got the handheld camera on him. He memorizes shit. He makes a point and then he looks away because it's a nervous tick of people who are thinking of the next line and then he'll snap back to the camera to deliver it.

And he doesn't use contractions. What we could not do rather than what we couldn't do. He doesn't speak normally because he's reciting this. but Moxley did what they couldn't do, win the world heavyweight title. No, because they're fucking tag team dipshits. So imagine how great it could be if Death Riders and a Buccarus joined forces,

so come on out and let's talk business. And I'm thinking, oh, good Lord, but Kenny's music plays. Here comes Kenny. I said it's a bad acting Hall of Fame. Here comes Kenny now in his hoodie and gym shorts. And he's in the aisleway, and of course, breathily, says, you know the last time that we met, you pushed me off the stretcher, taking me on a ride to the hospital.

But fortunately, he then established Brian that he forgave them. He actually said it twice, of course, this speech. I came back for my legacy and the safety of the company not for revenge as soon as he said the safety of the company I was like where's he going to go with this because the only thing to say would be

you guys are killing the company which has been something said by even some of the talent going back but he didn't say that either he just said the safety of the company and let that dangle like they were in danger unless I was here to part the sea

but he's easy they shot an angle where they turned on their best buddy and beat him up in the stomach where he had to diverticulitis and the baby face comes back and forgives the heels. Has that ever been done before? You know, we're good. We're good, guys. It's okay. I'm worried about my legacy and the safety of the company since they're all crippling each other.

Maybe that's what he meant. but has that ever happened they shot a turn angle and then before they even fought to fucking guys and no it's okay I forgive you now they're breaking new ground in AEW that Tony Khan quite the booker so then Kenny

Kenny decided that he is a stand-up comic and he tried to do a routine and I don't know. Brian, you've been in locker rooms and in the presence of over the course of your life, a various amount of the pro wrestlers. And would you say that almost everyone that you've ever met could tell jokes or stories or captivate a room with a speech in a more entertaining fashion than Kenny can? The delivery of material is not necessarily his greatest skill. nor not nor the coming up with the material because you know this was his what what would the fans have done online if Vince McMahon had made Roman reign say

dukey instead of suffer and second time well actually a lot of people know the name or know the word dukey from no holds barred where for no good reason Hulk Hogan lifted up a limo driver who was scared of getting beat up and he said what's that smell and the guy said dookie That was written by Vince McMahon. Yeah, but I don't know that any pro wrestler has actually voluntarily used it in a fucking promo since then. Never, no. But Kenny goes on a stand-up routine, and he tells a story of a friend he had who he played video games with,

who had two little shih Tzu's that used to shit all over the floor, but he said, dukey. And he said as more dukey kept collecting on the floor, he had to finally say, hey dude, come over and play games at my house.

And that's what the bucks are like without Kenny. What the, that is not a cogent simile. Number one, why do you want the guy who obviously puts up with just accumulating dog shit in his own home to come over to your house just to play video games.

Fuck him. Let him keep his filth in his own house. Don't visit him. Secondly, it wasn't the most stunning fucking true life weave into an angle that we have heard in the shoot promo age. And the people are sitting there going, what the fuck? Then they started chanting it lightly, dokey, dokey. So then the bread.

sing-song delivery of the stand-up on the he was trying to blister the bucks but he had no material and the delivery was ah because he doesn't know and the people are like what the fuck and then he just said so let's cut out the middle man i'll just come in the ring and we'll fight and he starts to get in my line when i say he said that just like that he said that the fans were they actually had a little bit of a pop they were hoping it would be a fight Well, they were hoping that was the end of the fucking promo. And then as he's getting in the ring, they play Okada's music. And here comes Okada to the ring.

Brian, what? This was the best part. He looked like he was wearing an ill-fitting game warden suit. It looked like he had the giant pockets in the khaki color that they used to hold the, I guess the bear repellent or whatever the fuck. and... Was it the right size? No, it was...

It was the right size for somebody, but not him. That was the least intimidating walk-in, whatever, a surprise appearance by a heel I've ever seen because of the outfit. And it was hanging off his stoop shoulders, but in it, he wasn't moving his arms, was he? I seem to recall him just clump, clump, like the girl on Seinfeld. But he looked again like some kind of, county game warden

about to give you a ticket for fishing without a license coming down in this, somebody do you think where they were in Baltimore, somebody took him some discount store and ribbed him and said, oh, this is the style? Where would you find

something like that? I'm starting to think Okada just gets the game and he said I'm going to get this guy to pay me all this money and each week I'm going to show less effort and see at what point they say something. And then this week he just showed up he would again i've never seen a less intimidating look on a heel ever it was like here's my neighbor wilson like just this what is he wearing so yeah that was my brother wait till my brother

gets off of work how big a boy is he um so he comes out but before that they can assault attack, perpetrate or penetrate Kenny swerve's music plays. And as they're watching for smurf, as they're watching for smurv, that's Papa Smurve to you.

I said like Arthur Treacher and now here's Mervin. As they were watching for smurve from the front coming out of the entryway, well old swerve swirved him and he came in from behind with a chair and the heels turned around and

oh my God, and they just scared and they bailed out with no contact. And they left the baby faces standing in the ring and the fans chanting Swerves house. So then Kenny, he's smiling and, you know, he leaves the ring and takes bows on the way out down the short aisle way. He's actually giving them the parade wave and taking the obligatory bow, but he is left the ring to swerve so that swerve can now orate. So have we kept up with this, Brian?

So we had the fucking plumber and his clown show and they beat Shepoopy. And then the other ones came out, the Buccaroos, but they got run off by, now who ran them off? Hold on here. Kenny, well, he didn't run. run them off, swerve ran them off. Kenny was out there. Well, Kenny was going to run them off, but Okada came out.

That's right. Okada came out. Then Swerve came out. Well, now swerve's out there talking. And the first thing he said was, it's buck hunting season. And I swear to the guy, like, my God, this is a loony tune. Buck season. Moxley season.

Buck season. Moxley season. And as soon as swerve starts talking, I know that you might not believe this. You might think I'm making this up. Pack attacks were from behind. And Nonna is in the ring. Did you notice this?

And again, I wish, I love Nanna. I knew him in Ring of Honor. He's a nice guy. And I wish if he hadn't been listening to the show, and I understand people got lives, things to do. But somebody playing this part because I've been talking about how they continue to bear. him. He's in a very awkward position as a baby face manager, but the people want to like him.

And the things they do where they bury him, where he has to just watch, even though he's a grown man. And it just watches or he runs off or whatever, makes him look like a pussy. But in this case, this was so avoidable because Nana is standing in the ring watching Swerve do the promo and on camera. You see Nana sees Pack coming and gets the oh shit face and doesn't warn swirve, doesn't

point say look behind you, doesn't try to run toward the impending attack. He shits himself and facially and jumps out of the ropes out of the ring on the floor and leaves his friend to get attacked from behind. He's not even going,

hey, waving his arms. watch out he just jumps out there could have that could have been avoided he knows pack is coming any probably he ought to know if they bother to even talk through this much less walk through this he ought to know what direction he's coming from just be looking somewhere else while your man is talking and you're exciting inciting the fans to chant or whatever you're doing and again you want to neutralize swerve first so yes pack should blister swerve and then nana should turn around and pack should punch nana in the face and he can take a bump out on the floor and then all is right with the world but instead nana comes off as a guy that will bail on a friend

at the first sign of fucking trouble in a heartbeat and why do you want to like him so then PAC starts standing on swerve's face and the referee rolls into the ring and the announcers say well this match was scheduled and advertised my god we'll be right back after this and that's when they take the break so one would think Brian that when we come back on the other side of the break we're going to be they're going to be there's a helicopter going over my house now part of the rescue fucking operation do you hear that Brian I don't

well I do and it's very loud and distracting you would think that when they come back from the break they'd be in the midst of a pitched battle one would think right because he's already been attacked and of course unless they're throwing this whole

thing out and this match ain't going to take place they probably air they're just they're pulling hair and gouging eyes and all kinds of stuff they come back from the break pack is standing in the ring swerve is sitting in the corner with a pissed off look on his face the announcers say that pack punished swerve strickland throughout the entire break

and now the referee says okay and rings the bell and swerve jumps up and levels pack with one fucking boot So let me understand the logic of this. Yes, their match was advertised. Okay. And while swerves in the ring, Pat jumps on him. Okay. The referee comes in the ring.

Okay. Now, one would think that at this point, one of only a couple things could happen is, number one, the referee could say, ring the bell and start to match. Or number two, the heel could just continue kicking a snod out of the baby face till the referee said fug it we're calling this off because he won't stop or well that's about one of the two things but why would the referee allow the heel to beat the shit out of this guy

for the entire commercial break why then would he stop him right when it comes back on TV where it might be exciting and why then after these let the heel kick the shit out of the baby face for the past three minutes, would he then ring the bell to start the match? And then if the baby faces had the shit kicked out of him for the last three minutes, why did he get up and proceed to kick the shit out of the heel that attacked him to begin with? And one more question, is this what LSD looks like? No. Well, you're going to answer the other stuff I asked first? Well, I thought we were just going to focus on the psychedelics and maybe mushrooms would be more your thing if I was really thinking about it. I can't.

can explain this. I explain the logic of AEW's referees and what they do. I can't do that. How do you even go over this in the fucking back and not think, wait a minute, what are we saying? So then swerve hit Pack with 14

punches, I counted, and a kick. Most of them looked phony, and Pack didn't bump for anything. He just slumped in the corner. But swerve is just like rib shots that like in the vicinity of, I mean, what is going on with everybody's quality control

and then then they go to the floor and swerve beats him up all over ringside and then they get back in the ring and it's kind of slow for a minute and then

pack tries a running Hurricane Rana but when he gets his legs around swerve Swerve catches him and stops it and picks him up and the idea of it was supposed to be he was going to give him a buckle bomb in the corner and then from there we'll never know because when swerve caught him pack is a stout looking young fellow

he's short but he's stocky and swerve is not exactly Ken pater in the Olympic weightlifting team so he tries to pick him up to buckle bomb him but he gives him a sloppy buckle bomb. And if anybody wants to go back and look at this, and I remember a talk I had 10 years ago, I saw staying at a fan fest. When Seth Rollins had given him the buckle bomb, that's when he took, what was it, fucking six years off wrestling. But in a perfect world, you're supposed to be buckle bombed into the turnbuckle, at least by the this, this is how the originators did it, where the top rope comes underneath your armpits and the middle of your shoulders hits the top turnbuckle. And even that, when it was done properly, to sting, that's what he told me.

He said as soon as he hit that top buckle, he felt something in his neck and shit started, went numb. And he was like, oh, fuck. Because when you're shot across the turnbuckle from corner to corner in the ring, you're hitting at a flat rate. That's the deal. The guys that took the best turnbuckles were the ones that hit it the flattest. You could get momentum and turn and hit flat and move the ring across the floor. And at the same time, hitting flat didn't put any more pressure than was necessary

on any one part of your body. And it didn't snap your neck. Like if all of your momentum is concentrated in hitting with your shoulders and your shoulder blades in the back of your neck only. So what this knucklehead did, he didn't have him, and instead of saying, well, no, maybe I ought to just power bomb him anyway, because it's not like the guy was going to go, oh, my God, I'll fuck this up by being power bombed in the ring. He still got a buckle bomb him.

He throws him sideways and he was out too far. Swerve was out too far from the buckle. and he didn't throw him flat, he threw him sideways so that you get these in my head the sides, the left side and or shoulder area of pack hit the top rope a ways out from the buckle where it looked like that then whip-sawed pack around to where the rest of his head kind of hit maybe under the top buckle,

but it spun his body around with another. centrifugal force, then when he landed sideways, his foot was under him, right ankle, and that landed right on it. And I mean, I'm again willing to be corrected, but when he landed from that buckle bomb, I got a clue when he started screaming and fucking pain and grabbing his ankle and never regained his proper footing after that, that that may have been the incident that did it. And that's what happened. He didn't go flat in with both feet under him.

He was, Swarve was too far out, and he threw him sideways, and he hit the top rope and whip sawed down. And he could have very well broken his ankle, because that much speed from the spin combined with not being able to control where you were going or get your feet up. under you. You, you,

you can't prepare. But then they fuck the whole goddamn business up, Brian. Well, you want to go into this before we talk about how then

they shit all over the business and made it look like a complete idiocy. How about having a doctor check on him in the middle of the match? Well, this whole thing

that we're going to go through that just made no sense. But I mean, you know, otherwise, this thing is, this show is snake bit. It's a bad match.

followed by bad promo, followed by people coming out that the fans might care about, but they don't care about what they're doing here. And they, and they just not delivered well. And then they get another match going, and this guy's going to the fucking hospital. What the fuck is a matter with this program? Again, I'm not the one to answer that, so I can't help you. So then, here's what happens. His right ankle is obviously fucked, and he's talking to the reference.

and they're trying to communicate something and swerve pulls him out and does like a snap mare and Pax sits there and is looking over his shoulder like because he did swerve does the thing where he comes off with the kick to the head so he's looking for something like what's this guy going to hit me with I'll see it coming because I'm obviously fucked up and swerve gives him an elbow in the back of the head and I thought well that'll be it now he'll pin him swerve gets up and starts strutting around and then walks over slowly and stands on PAC and I'm like what the fuck?

Why are they not going home? Because obviously this guy knows he's fucked or why are they doing this in this fashion and then there's some more talking but PAC is trying to get up. He can't stand up so he rolls to the floor but now it is obvious to the entire building and the television audience.

that this guy can't stand up. And he rolls out to the floor and the doctor comes up and is checking. And the referee's not counting. What the hell is the matter? You're telling people, oh, my God, I'm unplanned hurt in the middle of this fake presentation and we don't know whether we're about to resume

our goddamn normal programming. But also, for the sake of this, this guy's going to get further injured. He leaves the doctor and rolls back in the ring and hops on one foot twice into a super kick, which one would think maybe somebody has buzzed the referee. Tell Swarv just beat him.

So he walks into the, hops into the super kick, and he goes down, and Swerve goes to the top rope. I think, my guy, you're just super kicked and cover him. He goes to the top rope, and Pack has to turn. around and sit up and stare at this fucking guy. He's already got who knows what wrong with his ankle. And now he's got to sit there and stare at this guy.

Well, this guy takes forever to stand on a top rope and do the double stomp off. Boom, then one, two, three. And it will break this down in a second what they might could have done. But the end result that they got was this gutsy heel shoved the doctor away and returned to fight on one leg so that the baby face could take advantage of it and beat a cripple. But, okay, all the kids these days, they've heard that, back in those days, we didn't stop matches and get the finish in, kid, that's the most important thing, get the finish in,

kid. But because, unfortunately, none of the current crop of talent maybe has heard in detail, directly from some of those veterans said, we didn't stop the match, you've got to get the finish in, kid, that it doesn't mean you have to get the planned finish in. It means you need to get a finish in. Finish them, who's supposed to win and who's supposed to lose?

Give you a one, two, three. That you can get in. But you don't, when he came down and he fucking knew his ankle was fucked, you can buy a little time by him selling in the corner and the referee coming in and him telling the referee and the referee conveying to swerve, I'm fucked, back up.

And the referee can kill a second, but backing him up and swerve, could get him chanting swerve's house. And then the referee has a good 15 seconds to go over there and say, can you go on with this or are you fucked? And considering the fact that he never did stand up after that, I would think that Pack would probably already know

that he was somewhat injured. So when Swerve brought him out of the corner and gave him a snap mare and he's sitting there, he could give him the kick in the back of the head and cover one, two, three, he's going to win anyway. But he did, he started hot dogging. What is the conversation like in the ring? Did Pack just say, no, it's only a flesh wound? And then when he rolls to the floor, the referee has to start counting. The doctor's checking on the guy, yes, but the.

the referee I start counting because how do you ever have a countout if the guy can just roll to the floor and say let me let me let the doctor work on me for a little while if this was legitimate because that's another reasoning behind always getting the finish in you didn't want to do something to expose the business you didn't want the wrong guy to win a match whatever but this was it both exposing the business and risking the guy getting further hurt, when the doctor, do they want to institute a rule

where if a wrestler signals something that he gets 15 seconds to confer with the ringside physician before the count starts and close the loophole, a guy can't break up a cover or submission hold by signaling that

because the opponent cannot be in contact with his body at the time. he calls for it. Has to be during a break after a bad fall or whatever. You could put something like that in and give him a chance. But otherwise, referee count, it's a shoot. And it seems like that it wouldn't have been that difficult for Pack to tell swerve, I'm fucked, beat me now.

And then after he rolled out in the doctor conference, when he comes back in hopping on one fucking foot, you just super kicked him cover him but all again already the business is exposed because everything's come to a complete halt while suddenly in the middle of this fake bullshit the guys really hurt so we got to stop everything but that that was the meaning behind in the old days get the finish in get a finish in and i've told a story before but real briefly i saw a guy in the Louisville Gardens, break his leg in a match and win the match. Tommy Gilbert and Ray Candy against Luke Graham and John Rogers.

And Gilbert gave a vertical suplex to Rogers. His leg folded up underneath him. It broke his lower leg right in half. He never did get up on his feet after that. But as he's laying there and they're selling, it still was awkward, but not nearly as awkward as this for nearly as long. because the partners jumped in and drew the referee and did a little back and forth.

And once the guy stopped screaming about his leg, they adopted a plan. And Luke Graham did the loaded elbow to the fucking throat of, I think it was Ray Candy. And Candy fell backwards over the guy with the broken leg. And he grabbed him one, two, three in a fucking schoolboy. And then they helped him out. But that was over in,

seconds compared to what this long drawn-out thing was and again how does it make the why does the baby face think in his mind everybody knows this guy's hurt his leg is broken or whatever the fuck i've just super kicked him i got to go to the top and jump off on him it look it's going to look phony. It always does, but especially now, because the guy's got fucking wiggle into position and stare at me when everybody's looking at him going, oh my God, his legs hurt. And then I'm going to

fucking, why not just take him back behind the barn and shoot him, old Yeller? This was the worst 35 minutes of wrestling television and history, Brian. In history? That's a... In history. That's a long period of time there. You know, there was a lot. Again, I was intrigued by the fact that nothing was ending, and then eventually it ended.

You know, everyone's chasing everyone. Does swerve see himself as a baby face, even though he is? Because, like you said, you would understand the philosophy of the baby face needing to hit his downed opponent after he's hurt to win. Like, just the whole thing didn't make any sense. But I guess he wanted to get his stuff in. He was going to get his stuff in, and he did. Whose house?

the doctors he's added an extra wing for AEW injuries but you know the doctors may be the only ones that are really coming out ahead on this thing Brian because even though these AEW guys are getting paid a lot of money the toll on their bodies the wear and tear the surgeries the injuries the the crises don't you think that that maybe these poor beleaguered pro wrestlers ought to have something to fall back on whenever they're laid up on up in the hospital bed, some way to generate some income, some way to build a future for themselves in the business world. You think? Oh, sure. I mean, for instance, right now, maybe PACs setting up PACs collectibles. I don't know if people want any of PACs collectibles because all he really has is

black boots, black tights, and stringy, greasy hair. But he can think of something, and that's the point. They need something to fall back on because they're falling down with so much more frequency. Because let's say, Brian, for example, that while PAC is laid up in a hospital bed, he's got an idea he wants to sell football uniforms to the team over there in West Fabersham. He needs a platform. He needs somebody to help him out to put these dreams into action and turn them into reality and more importantly make the big bucks. And that's where our friends, at Shopify come in. Not only are they powering

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they're about to have. And Renee Moxley Good was in the back with Adam Page. He doesn't know who the wild card is. There's a wild card again. There's always a wild card. What is Tony's fascination? It's like he's goddamn hanging with the rat pack. His fascination with gambling.

Is this an issue? Should we send him to gamblers anonymous or Bookers Anonymous? You know, I went to Alcoholics Anonymous one time. It didn't work for me. I just started drinking under another name. So after he established, he didn't know who the wild card was. Page burst into Swerve's locker room, but Nanna was there, but Swerve wasn't there.

And Paige said that he wasn't helping swerve, and he needed them to stay out of his business. And Nana, the man who deserts his friends, tried to stand up and say, hey, you know, I can't speak for swerve, but I regret what that we did, but Paige cut him off who wouldn't listen to him because he's the hot-headed millennial cowboy. So now apparently from what Uncle Dave thing,

they're trying to build up where Page and Swerve will become a tag team. Boy, the folks have been clamoring for that. They've got so much in common. Similar gimmicks and backgrounds. Well, is that a good match for Texas Stadium or whatever the hell it is? Swerve and Adam Page versus. versus the bucks.

So Adam Page could be conflicted again. He doesn't know who to help. He doesn't know what side he's on. I think it's as good as they're going to get is my answer. As good as they're going to get. So then they had an eight-man tag match. Ricochet, action Andretti, Leo Rush, and Frank Mortis against Will Osprey, Kevin Knight, Mark Briscoe, and Hong Kong Fooey.

and the reason why this match was meaningful is because the winning team allegedly would win $400,000 Brian. Did you hear this announcement? Yeah, that was like the big pitch of the match that these guys are really motivated because of the $400,000 victory purse. What fucking sense?

They used to laugh at the AWA $50,000 battle royals back in the day, but this brings a whole new. You've got Rickettsay who again, in their presentation, should be viewed as one of their top heels, and he's with Andretti, Leo Rush, and Mortis, just undercard talent. Osprey, who should be their next world champion, sooner or the better, in my opinion,

but it'll probably happen in Texas, is teaming with, okay, Mark Briscoe, we've established, they haven't put him at that level, even though he's the best talent on his team. Kevin Knight, we've seen him three or four times, and Hong Kong Fooey, to any adult watching, makes the baby face team look silly to begin with, just visually just being there.

Just the ridiculousness of this fucking nerd. and then and we're going to have an eight-man tag amongst people that means nothing and put a couple of our stars in it and the winning team wins for $400,000. Imagine showing this to people who haven't seen wrestling in 20 years and they wake up from the coma and they say, boy, I've missed wrestling. Can I watch some wrestling and you show them this? think of what the fuck who are these children and surprise the baby faces won $400,000

your thoughts on the subtleties of this contest no I really have nothing to add to the $400,000 review well they did a video recap of FTR turning on edge Edge is out indefinitely again

he just got back didn't he he's out indefinitely Tony Schumani did an editorial on how disappointed that everybody is in FTA. Lance Russell did it better. Let's just say that. Then, usually this is the segment, if we're

going to get something worth anything, we're going to get it here. Here came the Hertz syndicate to the ring and the celebration was set up. They got the belt stand and they got the table with champagne and the poster of their victory. And the fans

were champion, MVP. and, you know, MVP made the announcement that they're, you know, punks jump up to get beat down. And that's what old Big Bill and Brian Keith were. And they're going to have a toast to celebrate another win of their championship. And of course, this is a somewhat flimsy see-through excuse for MJF to come out. But he does. And they've got to look.

bit of the old days back with this. I like the interplay. MJF comes into the ring and poses next to Shelton like he's in the fucking group. And Shelton's kind of looking at him sideways. Like, what the fuck? And the fans are chanting he's our

scumbag again. Brian, they are caught in a vicious logic vacuum where the only time that the people like MJF and chant for him is when he is a heel, preferably a despicable heel

or lined with other heels that they also like and cheer for. But if he becomes a baby face and it kills him deader than fucking four o'clock. Yeah. Yeah. So MJF says, that's right, we heard people, baby.

And he cuts the promo about that. Tony wanted him to be in this Facaa Owen Hart. heart tournament and wrestle every week and sweat my balls off like some slub, but I can bypass that because now that I'm rolling with the syndicate, daddy gets to cut the line and get back the triple B, baby. There's nothing. I got to be fair.

I enjoyed, as the point I was going to make here, I enjoyed MV or MJF's banter here because he was back being the smart ass again. He wasn't trying so hard. He wasn't yelling at the people to make them not like him. But then I said it earlier, so I will be fair, it applied here too. I said, after six months, why does any potential new viewer understand why those two despicable weasels, the buccaroos, are the executive vice presidents? What is the triple B?

MV, I keep saying, there's too many of them in the group. MJF is the only one calling it the triple B now, and he doesn't explain it. The announcers don't call it that. For a new potential viewer, MJF has not been the champion for over a year. Would they know what the triple B is? Would it have more impact if not only MJF just dropped that in, that beautiful AEW World Championship belt that I redesigned and Kristen

the every once in a while so everybody's up on what the fuck he's talking about or is this another case of the Bill Watts thing where he'd send out a memo gentleman I know you're all superstars and all the fans know everything but see what I'm saying? Yeah I mean we haven't even seen the title

in almost a year so who knows what it looks like and Moxley does not look like a fan fastidious housekeeper. But what was the triple B? That was his belt. Well, it was the, but what did it stand for? It was the Burberry blowjob.

It was a belt? I don't know. See? Burberry, big burberry belt or brown. Something like that. This is why that it needs reinforcement. But anyway, then MJF said, I scratched your back and now you guys scratch mine. You know, MVP Montel, do I have to sign a contractor?

Is it one of those old school blood brother type? of deals. And Lashley says, shut up, Max. And it was cute that you tried to help us, but you didn't get the job done. We don't need you. And we've never needed you. And then Bobby and MJF start arguing and pointing fingers with each other. And Shelton's kind of smiling there, but he stepped in between and MVP tried to calm Lashley down. And MVP told MJF, hey, we go away back. But to join, you need three thumbs up. And MVP gave him the thumb up and then Shelton stuck it out in the middle and then turned it down. And Lashley, thank you. Thank you. I like that. He hugged Shelton. He's like, thank you. That's what I'm trying to say. And they took the

belts and they left the ring and MVP just shrugs at MJF, right? What are you going to do? So we still But again, I like this And it'll help MJF Instead of having to go out there And just scream at people all the time Because he's being penalized Because he's still one of the better speakers in the company

But nobody cares about any of his shit before But that was that Yeah, I really like that I've liked everything with MJF and the hurt syndicate so far I think it's bringing out the best of Bobby Lashley We're actually getting to see some fire And promos and stuff And Shelton

Standing there be Mewy by the whole thing. MJF should show up dressed like them. I'm wearing a really nice three-piece suit just to fit in a little more. But I've enjoyed all of this a lot. Well, and then I'll jump ahead because to keep the continuity going,

which is more than I can say for this program, later on, they were in the back with Alicia Atute. Attute with the Hertz. And Lashley was telling, you know, MVP and everybody, hey, MJF can't be trusted. We don't like him. We don't need him. And Shelton's like, yeah, but little George Costanza's kind of funny.

And then, but again, a lot of these wrestlers are near-sighted, apparently these days, because Shelton and Bobby, under some flimsy pretense, they leave the promo, and within five seconds, there's a knock at the door, and MJF comes in. and MJF has an MVP, do I look like a female dog to you? Why do they treat me like a punk bitch? And this, again, this was good with MVP. Your reputation precedes you. That's why.

But this is business. In business, find out what your consumer wants and give it to him. And then he walks out and leaves MJF there to ponder that word of wisdom. so there's still something going on here. So at least we don't have to watch them interact with other people. Anyway, they had Thunder Rosa and Chris Stadlander in the Owen Hart Tournament Female Division. I'm sure Owen would be pleased. And then we got to the Chris Jericho segment.

And Brian, have you heard that apparently old Chris Jericho is taking some time off? It may be time for a break just to make sure that his gimmick isn't getting worn out. What the, we'll talk about a couple different things, but the idea that he was the Ring of Honor champion, even though he was the antithesis of everything that the Ring of Honor fan base, big, small, good, bad, or indifferent, would have ever looked for in the Ring of Honor world champion, was because since he had a name,

Tony was shopping a TV deal for Ring of Honor, right? That was the reasoning that he's a big name and it would help get a TV deal. Well, he just lost the Ring of Honor belt and now he's taking time off. I think that sounds like it's bad news for the Ring of Honor TV deal. And didn't Tony Con already said

he's not going to do business with somebody outside the WBD umbrella so what did he think that they were going to put another show of his Ring of Honor on one of their networks when the numbers for what he had were dropping? You're broke up over the Ring of Honor World Title situation, aren't you? I can't explain Tony's... Your head is your head, there's little Tweetybirds just wander like me, just circling around your head.

What is happening here? I don't think there's anyone who was involved in Ring of Honor in the previous in any of the previous owners, under any of the previous owners, or anyone who followed you who thinks Tony's doing a good job with it or has any idea what he's doing with it? Well, Jericho was in the ring for this one. And it was the TV time with the learning tree set

and he's got the trees and he's got the monitor. And I haven't enjoyed watching Jericho come out since he dropped Judas. At least we could hear the song. I'm a com. I'm coming irrelevant, irrelevant in the ring. So Jericho was kind of morose that he lost the Ring of Honor title, but he was, you know, unfortunately,

penalized by the assistance of the Stoge mother of Bandito. And he has his family, but I have mine, and I want to bring my family out right now. And he introduced Big Bill and Brian Key. and Jericho starts prefacing by saying, well, you guys didn't win the tag team title either, and Big Bill shut him up. And Brian, you saw this interview, right?

Did you pay any attention or did it just kind of fly by you like a lot of the Jericho? Oh, no, I watched this. I wanted to see if this was going to be the big turn for Big Bill and Brian Keith, where they'd become baby faces sick of Chris Jericho. And for a minute, I thought it may happen. Well, thankfully it didn't. Because if they never replay any of this again, Big Bill should find all the copies of the tape and burn it.

Big Bill, if this was his effort to try to do a breakthrough promo, he had the material here, he had the potential passion behind it, he had the reasoning for it. There was no, he memorized this and he recited it. He was neither comfortable nor was there any kind of delivery. He was trying to speak like a college professor and enunciate everything,

talking like a robot, no emotion, no inflection, no cadence. But if we are out here so you can berate us, then let me know right now and I can leave. That to even said, I've been getting real angry as of late.

This seven-foot fucking long-haired goddamn giant Greg Allman looking motherfucker, whatever. He wouldn't speak like that. Sounds like, he sounds like Kenny. Sounds like a fucking soft putts. And he did

this interview telling instead of telling Jericho we're sick and tired of this shit, he was polite to him. Instead of saying, we're not going to be browbeaten by you anymore. He's like, well, we'll just leave if we have to stand here and take this abuse.

it's like this is the fucking seven-foot ass kicker looking at it in that perspective did this or did this not suck donkey balls no this was not good i didn't say it was good all right i just wanted to make sure that you didn't think it was a breakthrough performance or anything but then jericho calmly said that's not not why i brought you out here I care about you. I want to help you. Your victories are mine and your failures are mine.

And then he starts working himself up. And of course, he says, some may say that I lost the Ring of Otter World title because Big Bill, you weren't there for me. Some might even say it's your fault. But I'm not saying that. I'm not angry. And now Jericho's auditioning

for the next independent movie here with this. emotional roller coaster of a scene. I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed. And that's what he repeats then over and over. I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed while he's smashing the TV with the baseball bat.

You know, these new flat screens are only like an inch thick. They don't really fucking break and bust up like those old-fashioned TVs did. It just kind of... It takes effort. Crinkles up and just, you know, it doesn't really go anywhere. There's nothing inside it to fly out of it. But nevertheless, he beat the TV up with the bat and he really got a pop when he got bleeped for something.

And then he told him that until you change that, that me being disappointed, it might be best that I leave. And the fans, of course, start singing, shana, nah, nah, no. Hey, hey, hey. goodbye from the great group Shah Na Na

and did you hear as Jericho was leaving as he's going down the aisle way right at the entranceway you can clear his day here some fan go suck out a maple leaf buddy what a goodbye

so yeah so but But that was that, comment on that, and then what are we hearing about this interview Jericho's doing where he's saying he's open to returning to the WWE? I'm sure he is. I'm sure he's very open to it. We'll see where it goes. You know, Jericho's been there a long time.

Jericho has had more opportunity to do more of his own stuff than most people. Tony's a big Chris Jericho fan going back to his teenage years. You would think in some ways Chris Jericho may be set for long. life in AEW, even though the work is not there. The angles, the promos, the ideas, the programs, everything from like A to Z has been pretty shitty from him, including guys that he did not help who never really gained anything from working with Chris Jericho. It just kept Chris Jericho in a prominent position on TV. Come on, Action Andretti is the new sting. Would WWE want him for any reason at this point right now other than to just take AEW's first world champion?

and someone who was such a big part of AEW? Well, but hold on here because he did an interview and this was one of the wrestling entity publications or sites or whatever, right? But he said he would be willing to go back to the WWE or he'd be happy staying in AEW. Basically it's the cover all bases and answer everything. He was giving the, I would evaluate any offer at any situation

and do what's best for me. That's why I've reinvented myself so much. So he's basically saying, I'll do anything that ends up the best thing for me to do. But didn't he just announce a couple of years ago because we were talking about it and laughing about it, that he signed a 10-year contract, not only he, but Tony announced,

signed a 10-year contract because we were laughing. He'll be 62. So unless Tony was to let him out of that contract, which at some point he may very well want to, then he wouldn't be able to go back to the WWE. When he's 62 years old, he might get inducted in the Hall of Fame. That will come to a point somewhere down the road. But right now, I would have to think that there would probably be,

unless the personal assets, aspect comes into it. All things being equal, I don't know how he left him or what the relationship is. But if I was the WWE, I'd say if we can get Chris Jericho to do five matches in the next couple of years, it would be a pay-per-view, WrestleMania, whatever. It might be worth doing something of a reasonable amount of money and merchandise and et cetera, and some television appearances where he wasn't wrestling,

but I think just for the nostalgia value, I don't know at this point, you know, punk is a nostalgia run almost at this point, and he's 10 years younger than Jericho. So would they want to put Jericho in a position where the people would see through it because he's wrestling even once or twice a month? I think it would have to be,

be a limited thing if it was interest on their part. They wouldn't, they wouldn't start building a regular talent and regular now being once or twice a week. They wouldn't start building Jericho at this age as a regular talent for a two or three year contract. I can't see that. Well, we'll follow this story and see what happens. And if there's anything more to say, we'll say it on the drive-through, but it certainly didn't lead Big Bill and Brian Keith looking like anything. Oh, it left them looking like something. I've seen a lot of what it left them looking like in the middle of the road after the parade goes by. But speaking of the parade going by, do you know who the parade left, Brian?

The parade left the main event behind for us to enjoy. The main event on this program, where again, where bad promos and nonsensical bullshit and people injured and chaos running rampant, the main event was Claudio Castignoli and our friend Wheeler useless, and it didn't even like him here and he's from Philadelphia against Samoa Joe and Hook. And they've made it at this point where I don't even want to see Samoa Joe. But this, again, they rang the bell at six minutes till 10,

so you know they're going over, even though that the swerve and pack match was cut, I'm sure, fairly short from what it was going to be. they still managed to find a way to stretch this fucking fiasco out, right? So point is they go past the 10 o'clock hour into the overrun. And then finally, Joe and Claudio were on the floor and Wheeler and Hook are in the ring. And Moxley comes down and grabs a chair. He gets up on the apron of the ring and draws the referee. Then he gets down and then he paces around for a little while.

Did you see it? It was like, did he come too early for something? What, he was just there and he distracted people, but then he backed off, then he grabbed a chair. Then Shapoopee came down and grabbed Moxley in a sleeper. And Joe got Claudio in a choke on the, on the floor, they were outside the ring.

And then the hook got Wheeler in the choke, the red rum. and Wheeler tapped out because that's his function in that group. But then Marina Schaefer comes in and starts getting on everybody and the heels get back up and beat up the baby faces. And at this point, and I didn't even see this,

this went around on Twitter the day after. I didn't see it when it happened because they had a wide shot on the ring, but if you're looking for it, you can see it. If you're not looking for it, you can't see it. But apparently as they're getting heat

on the baby faces, before Samoa Joe comes in with a chair and runs the heels off, Hook was down selling and he puked. He threw up chunks in the ring right before Claudio picked him up and did the spot where they picked him up

and dropped him stomach first on the ring. the folding chair. So what was he, because they didn't go long enough for a kid like him to be blown up, did he take some kind of stomach blow, or was there some reason for him to be vomiting before they did that deal? That's what I'm wondering. Maybe he realized what the ratings would be being in a main event with Claudio. Come on now.

I don't know. I didn't see what caused it. I didn't even notice it until after the fact and people on social media started sending it around. I didn't see it happen. But then that begs the question. I wasn't even that, but that begs the question. Claudio's right next to him.

He's about to pick him up and do the spot where he picks him up and drops him gut first on a folding chair, on the edge of the chair. So did he say, hey, can you hurry up and finish pukin and come here so I can drop your stomach on the edge of a chair? Did they have to do that thing? Because they called it in the locker room,

or could he have said, well, you know, this guy's already throwing up. Maybe I'll just fucking kick him in the head and let him take his own bunk. What is the matter with all these people? Maybe he didn't see the throw up. He just smelled it. And when he smelled it, he thought,

oh, someone's wearing Moxley's Cologne. No, no, that's not Moxley's, the seat or the lap of Moxley's pants that smells like that. It was five feet away from Claudio. He had to look at it to pick the guy up. But it's like all of them have not been, ever been talked to in any kind of meaningful way

in training, otherwise in a superficial, the show must go on and, you know, gut through this stuff instead of, no, we can do something different because nobody knows what we're supposed to be doing to begin with till we do it. But yeah, so then Joe ran everybody off with the chair and the fans were, eh. And Joe cut a promo, like they're coming after the, and I mean, I can believe it from Joe, but he's got a skinny kid laying in his own puke and fucking shippoopee as his backup,

and they're coming after the death riders. And the only thing that Joe really got to pop for was something. he said that he got bleeped for. So, that was that program. A.E.W. Another A.E.W. Dynamite. Of course, they're on a real hot string of a exciting action.

We could talk about the ratings. I have them here. A.E.W. Dynamite on Wednesday, April 9th, 2025 from 8 to 10.08 p.m. On average. Watched by 659,000 viewers. yours. Six on 59,000. Now that is firmly in their wheelhouse or their flywheel or whatever

as they say these days. They're in the sixes now usually. Six to six 60 or so. Well, for instance, last week was 540, not 540, excuse me, 594. So this is up 11% from that according to Russellnomics.

The trailing four week average, 636. So 4% up on that. Ah, so they're a little bit better than their weakest average ever. Okay. Let's go to the quarterly breakdown. These were compiled by WrestleManiaomics.

It does not include Max. And by the way, I've heard from multiple people who work in television, who told me the streaming numbers of 500,000 being added to dynamite is hogwash. Not one of them thinks it could be anywhere near that, and we would certainly know about it if it was. But let's go to the quarterly breakdown. Quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. the John Moxley

backstage promo, the Moxley versus Shabbata match, and the Young Bucks coming out for their promo, 767,000 viewers. Okay, so it looks like they may keep some people for most of this show with that starting point

and their average. Quarter 2, 8.15, 8.30 p.m., the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, Okada, Swarved Strickland, Pack Live, angle. That's a way to put it. An ad break and the start of PAC versus Swerve Strickland, 698,000 viewers. Okay, I got to be honest with you, that's exceptional because they only lost 69,000 people after 15 minutes of that opening dribble that we were subjected to. That's a gift

right there. I applaud them for that accomplishment. We go now at a quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m. The GRIVL continues The continuation of Pack versus Strickland Ricochet and Crew and Beast Mordos and Will Osprey and Mark Briscoe and Kevin Knight and Mike Bailey backstage angle

an ad break the Billy Stark's Mercedes Monet Harley Cameron backstage angle I missed that and the Adam Page Prince Nana backstage angle followed by an ad break 629,000 viewers

Ouch, okay, that shows the culmination of that first 30 minutes of abysmal misery. Now they're down 138,000. Well, we've got a quarter of four, 845 to 9 p.m. Kevin Knight, Mark Briscoe, Mike Bailey, and Will Osprey versus Crew, and Rickashay and Beast Mortos with picture and picture, 604,000 viewers. Why, and it keeps going. Now, they've got to, they got to jump up here again to get to their average, I would think, here pretty soon. So they're at the top of the hour.

Did they get a big pickup? Well, we were at the big 9 o'clock hour, quarter 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The finish of the aforementioned eight-man tag match. MJF and the Hurt Syndicates live angle. Megan Bain and Penelope. Nah, Penelope. Megan Bain and Penelope Ford's backstage promo and an ad break

68,000 viewers. Holy shit, that is the biggest jump they've had at the top of the hour in my memory that I can recall since we've been doing this. They never pick up 84,000 people. We'll be going out of quarter six, 9.15 to 9.30 p.m. Thunder Rosa

versus Chris Statlander with picture and picture. You did not review that match. 692,000 viewers. It picked up 4,000 people. Okay, now this, something's happening here in hour two. They're setting the world on fire. We're going to add a quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The finish of Rosa versus Statlander,

Don Callis' backstage promo The Paragon backstage promo What the fuck's the Paragon? I don't know. I was zoning out at that point. The Learning Tree Live promo and Anthony Bowens' promo 670,000 viewers.

This is an odd show because they have now except for their strong open quarter two and three were 698 and 629. quarter six and seven or six ninety two and six seventy they never do better in the second hour than they do in the first it has never happened yet here they are what a wonderful time to be alive well we go to quarter eight and i remind you we have an eight minute overrun nine

forty five to ten p m the hurt syndicate mjf backstage angle that's when uh mjf walked into the room after they left yeah an ad break the chris jericho learning triangle and the start of the Death Riders versus the ops. Well, picture and picture, 576,000 viewers, eight-minute overrun, more ops versus death, 568,000 viewers. Ouch, okay, so the people finally said at this point,

we know what's going to be on the rest of the show, so they lost 102,000 people from Port, quarter seven to the overrun, but... Bravo on them! For somehow getting people to watch the second hour of their show for the first time in history. It's well over the 90-day trend line, as you know, you've been pointing out here without seeing the graph. It's well above it for that second hour, so something happened. Either that, or MJF and the Hurt Syndicate stuff is getting some interest, which I could see.

And Thunder Rose and Chris Statlander asked every relative they have. to please watch the 9 o'clock hour will be on at some point. I really don't. Stalander brought the Alpha Centauri audience into it. No, Andromeda. You know, that's a much bigger... I thought she was from Alpha Centauri.

No, that's where they were going on Lost in Space. Yeah, she's from the Andromeda Galaxy. Yeah, well, that's an even bigger galaxy. So there's a lot of people there. I believe it's in Suffolk County. But that was AEW Dynamites ratings. Well, and this was the Jim Cornett experience from a disaster area.

Did we get through it? Apparently not. The mute button didn't, but we did and we got through it. And congratulations, once again, you survived another disaster. I'm a disaster survivor and a COVID survivor.

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