Episode 588: The Hostile Land Of Dixie
00:04Like the midnight and the rock and roll.He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control.He's in Kornet.The keys to the future.Hell by Nets.Fornett experience today.What happened on AEW this week?You tell me and we'll both know.
01:10Plus more on my adventures in the hostile land of Dixie, Cata, that is.And miscellaneous tomfoolery for everyone and joining meHawaiian Brian the podcasting lineThe King of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast networkMr. Co-host to you, he never went way down southon Dixie.Be great, Brian last everybody.Aloha, Jim.
01:32A pleasure to be here once again.I did not go down on Dixie.I might have gotten a push like Hernandez if I had.Oh, now he was a fine, upstanding person.He did not partake in any of that thing.There's never been a Jewish Hernandez.It would have been a real switch on things.it uh well you could have been the hernandez brothers the hormanos hernandez i thought that was
01:57japanese or japanese jesus christ i thought that was spanish for herman for the hermanos is apparentlyhis brothers is that correct do you know anything about this oh no i thought you were right the firsttime it was for japanese jesus christ oh it was jesus all rightanyway come on we're going to have fun today hot and wetWay down south in the land of cotton panties.You know, I went out to dinner the other night.I told you I was going to do this, and I indeed did that.I indeed did it.
02:33Went out to dinner.It was Stacy's mom's birthday.She's a lady, so I won't mention how many.But she wanted to go to Outback Steakhouse,which I haven't been in just a blue moon, as Mama Cornette used to say.and I'll tell you when we were traveling,if I was by myself,I wouldn't go to the trouble of sitting down somewhere
02:56and spending that much timeand that, you know, I could be in my underwear.But if Stace was with me,we would always on a long trip,we'd find an exit with a Hilton propertyand an outback steakhouse.And that would just make everything swell.And boy, I ate my, just, I've dody,
03:18even have a simile. I was so frazzled after I ate that. I was full for two days. It didn'tstop me from eating more the next day, but I didn't want to. I had to make myself.When's the last time you went to Outback Steakhouse there, Mady?Outback Steakhouse? Jesus, I don't know. 2002, three? Oh, come on! It's not a place I regularlygo to. What, do you, you don't love the Outback?I see, I see! You don't love a good shrimp on the Bobby, mate?Come on, you get, the blooming onion.Do you ever see that movie Shrimp on a Barbie with Cheech Marin after him and Chong broke up?
03:55Cheech Marin.Or whatever you want to call him.He goes to Australia and he falls in love with a rich girl and she falls in love with him.And then everyone does, I forget if it was Rombada or Maniana.There's a dance at the end and they all do it.The end.I'm going to tell you, if there was a, if a Cheech and Chong movie came out after 1979, I've probablyI probably missed.
04:19After the first one?After the first one,I probably missed the rest of them.Well, no, I haven't been the Outback Steakhouse.I remember they had a steak.Yeah, that's right.It's a movie called Carlito's Way.What's it about?
04:35Well, it's about this guy named Carlitoand the way he does things.No, it's a one.They've got to, where do I start?They're a fine establishment.They're upstanding people.They're very, very consistent, I've noticed, from restaurant to restaurant.You can get the occasional SOB in every crowd, as they used to say.
04:58But they're very, and also now, guess what they got?They got the blooming chicken.They take the big old chicken breast and they flatten it out real good and they roll itand bathe it in the blooming onion batter, seasoning, frying.mix or whatever the fuck you might want to term it.And then they fry it that way and then they give it to you with the blooming onion sauce.Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.It was a man, and a bunch of fine appetizers, including the Cucobura wings that are just
05:34different from, from just any other wings you're going to have.But nevertheless, and then we went over next door to Grater's ice cream.And I had some, I splurged and I had some ice cream too.In a cup.Well, it was more of a bowl-type-shaped apparatus.I wouldn't call this a cup.Was everyone else getting cones like a normal person?Well, they got the little cup that I guess you would call it,
06:00whereas I got a, it was a long, oblong thing that looked like a battleship.But Sam, Sam over at Graters, listens to the podcast, by the way.He's a fine young man.He's one of the go-getters of the younger generation.Hello, Sam.Out there working to get ahead.Hello, Sam.One of these days, he's probably, he's going to own the place.
06:23Which place?Well, the whole damn deal.He'll take over graders.And he'll own the store.He'll own the plant where they manufacture the ice cream.He'll own the cows that make the milk.He'll own the goddamn strawberry trees.Where they grow the strawberries and the sprinkled trees.
06:44He'll own, are they bushes?Where they grow the sprinkles.own all that stuff. He's getting an early start.I better be nice to him then. How's he going to accomplish all this?Well, he's getting an early start. He's a young man out there in the working world now.earning his way, learning a trade. He's learning the ice cream trade.The fuck, you've got to admire the gumption. You think he'll ever take a step up and go to custard?I don't know. Custard is a tricky business.
07:15It's about the eggs. Because some people, you know, and see, that's the thing. They shouldn't have namedat custard, to be honest with you. Becauseif you just ask anybodywalking down a street, hey, you want some ice cream?Yeah, everybody's faceis going to light up, right?But if you ask somebody, hey, you want somecustard? Well,
07:34that just sounds like shit.It sounds like 120 years ago.That's what it sounds like. Well, itrhymes with mustard, first of all,and who wants mustard on a hot day? And thencustard, what's,what do you make custard out of and what'shappened to it? It sounds like it's some kind of
07:50fermenting process or a curdling.Custard and curdling is not that.So then it just, it just sounds just nasty.Like it would coat your mouth and it would,it would taste like a fucking dirty Dalmatianjust pulled his foot out of it.You know what's weird on this topic of ice cream that you brought up?Custard?
08:11If you look at the grocery aisle, the things that you think are,I mean, that must be ice cream. It's a cone.And there's ice cream that looks like ice cream.there and it's wrapped in chocolate.A frozen substance.But it doesn't say ice cream anywhere on the package.They're not allowed to call it ice cream because technically, however they're concocting it,it's not the proper ingredients of ice cream.
08:34So it just says like frozen dessert treat.Yes, a frozen dessert treat.Or it's like American cheese, Kraft American cheese says a pasteurized processed cheese food.a cheese foodI never even picked up on that one actuallyyeahand that's some of the tastiest stuffactually I just regular old ice cream is a little bland
09:03now that they've got thethe dessert treatsthat they can put all kinds of extra shit in therewell they're just swellyou just take a spoon to them some bitchesAnyhow, we got a big show today.Can't you tell?I'll have you know.
09:22I want maybe later on you can tell me what AEW should start giving out study notes.And after the shows, or maybe even before the show, so you could follow along.And maybe even do some charts and some history.Here's what you need to research so you know everybody's.standings and relationships in Japan from 15 years agoin a third match on the card.And also some pie charts would be good, I think.Pie charts are always good.
09:58So we can kind of analyze what the fuck is going on with these people.There's a million of them.They run around like ants in one of those.Did you ever wonder?Probably not.Did you ever have in school back before they had actualmoney to spend on things apparently.You'd get the ant farm thing
10:20where you could look through the glassand see the ants doing their thing.We didn't have it in our schoolor any of the classes I was in,but they were still a thing,but it was kind of in its last days,I think, as being a cultural phenomenon.Sort of like the wrestling bear
10:34went out about the same time.But yeah, they look like ants to me now.It's an ant farm over there.And we're also going to talkabout the last week on the program we just started the TNA agent report thing it's it's gettingcloser to the point where I get fired so we'll do a little bit more of that and etc but I foundsomething else I teased you with this Brian here I'm rattling the papers I teased you with this earlierthis was a letter and I this is the era where I have the originals because we were facts and everything
11:14right? It's like two from pages.Rick Bassman, you recognize that name, right?I do, and it's funny to bring us up every,I don't know, every year or so someone will post something like,hey, look what he said, he's responding to Jim Cornett,he's challenging Jim Cornett, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah.I thought he'd been, I thought he had had some type of ill health,been hospitalized,
11:44putting a homesomewhere or something.I haven't heard about him in years,because this is from 2004.Okay.But for the people who don't know,and that's probably a lot of you,his claim to fame was the picture
12:00with Ultimate Warrior and Sting.He's the guyin the early,mid-80s, 84, whatever it was,he had some kind of gymin California and Los Angelesand he was looking to somehow get in a wrestling business.You want to get in a wrestling business, kid.
12:20And he had, staying in Warrior, Steve Borden and Jim Hylwig,were two of the bodybuilders that he recruited from the local Southern California gymsto try to, it, the early publicity pictures,you've probably seen him, Brian,is him with these four muscle guys, right?It was like Power Team USA or some kind of shit.And anyway, the other two flaked off somewhere, whatever the fuck, who knows.And Sting and Warrior, the future Sting and Warrior said, let's get the fuck out of here.
13:00Yes, let's get the fuck out of here because they just sent pictures out.And bless Jerry Jarrett, he'll take some green talent that'll work for cheap and a hard.heartbeat and that's when they went to Memphis and began their careers but he bassman like i thinkgot them tights and had pictures taken in a ring was the total of his because you've seen theearly video of staying a warrior and anyway then later on he set up some kind of wrestling schoolout in california in los angeles in the 90s and he was involvedin some of those inside pro wrestling secrets documentaries that were going around where they showedeverybody how to do everything before that was it was somewhat frowned upon still in that
13:53environment let's say years ago but also i'm trying to remember the timeline but before i even had anysideways issues with him from o vw i'm thinking it was probably 97ish or somethingThe first time I'd ever see him in person, I believe,as fucking guy shows up at a TV we're doing out there,the WWF television.And one of the dark matches,they've got two guys from whatever he's running.And one of them,
14:32man, I'm trying to think of it is Howard.Tom Howard was his name.I remember him, yeah.And he was a big guy with a nice physique, you know,to 30, 40, whatever he was,and blonde hairkind of like, you know, earlystaying maybe, and
14:50he would look at him and say,well, he should be a Viking instead of Ludwig Borgaand he's not a psychopath, right?And he could do some shit.He was pretty good.But his partner was this big cartoon muscle.He looked even biggerthan the early pictures you see of Warrior.
15:08I didn't know how the fuckthat they didn't have to custom makethis guy's fucking clothing from scratch.He was just ridiculously big.And they're going to be a team.And I was like, ugh.And then there's Bassman.He's going to go out and manage him.
15:27Is there a manager, Ricky B?This little bald peanut-headed dip shit is like five-foot fucking two or whatever.And he's out there with this cartoon muscle guy important.And Tom Howard's doing some shit.And he's trying to make most of his time.and there was two minutes of Tom Howard,where if you thought, you know, wow, he might be worth something,but it was weighed down by the other five minutes of this fucking muscle guy
15:54might have had three wrestling lessons,and the manager didn't know how to manage,and nobody knew who the fuck he was or what he was supposed to be doing anyway.And, blah.But then, in the late 90s,Bruce started going to Bruce Pritchard, Brother Bruce, Brother,Brother, La, started going out there and visiting his school.And the only explanation I gave you at one time, he said, well, he flies me out and takes me out there and everything.
16:28He was, it was like a vacation for Bruce to go from Connecticut to Los Angeles to look at guys at a wrestling school so he could go out in L.A. and be blinded and dined by Rick Baccard.And I'm like, I tell you, I'll stay here.You bring some bitches to me.But anyway, and to be fair, they did find Sina, they didn't find Victoria because they were in L.A.in a gym, right?That's what Bassman kind of like, he got into wrestling business the same way the people whobuy a McDonald's franchise get in the restaurant business.you know it just here I've got a gym good looking people in California come here and
17:14I'll teach you absolutely nothing but he was also doing a deal where he was signing guysthe contracts where if they got a deal and they got a career and made money he got part oftheir money and there's several people I won't mention their nameswere actively for a while trying to get out of that so thenwhile we're here, I'm here in OVW, right?This was, I'm going to say, again, early 2000s,not sure of the exact year, but we're running already.We're running the shows at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom.
17:56And Bassman's deal out there at one point had had a developmental contract,but I don't even remember why they canceled it,but they canceled it for something else that he was doing or was going on.But we hear from our people at Six Flags over here, Kentucky Kingdom,hey, we just got this brochure in the mail from somebody.And they're saying they can bring us wrestling.And there's a picture.This is when Sina was here as a prototype.
18:28So I'm thinking it may have been goddamn, it had to be 2001, right?Maybe 2002 before he left.And his picture is on the fucking cover of the brochure.while he's wrestling here on their shows.And I said, what the fuck?And anyway, come to find out,Bassman and his gimmick school out therehad sent brochures to every Six Flags amusement park in a country
19:00and claiming that he had an affiliation with WWF,he did at one time, but he didn't currently at that point,and put the most recognizablefucking piece of talentthat he had produced on the cover,which was still just a guyin developmental for us in OVW.So I called the office.
19:22And I told Bruceus to just a little fucking peanut-eda piece of shit.Number one, he's sayinghe's still hooked up with you guys.And number two,he's fucking with our six flags people.And whatever Bruce did,
19:37I then calledthe number on the brochure, which I assume was Mr. Bassman, and I told him somethingof the effective if he ever got in contact with our, you do whatever you want with Six FlagsNew Jersey, motherfucker.But if you ever contact our fucking people again, they will find you in a ditch.So I've always had a fond, you know, relationship with this guy, right?Yeah, you haven't ever gotten to the letter yet.It's already a great story.
20:10So anyway, I didn't remember that this happened until again,looked at this letter, but the letter is to Tom Pritchard.And I still don't remember all of it,but apparently it happened because I'm responding to it.And this is from April of 2004.And it says,Dear Doc, Dr. Tom,to say I was stunned to hear of Rick Bassman's business offer would be an understatement.
20:41So I'm responding on papers there could be no misrepresentation of my stand on this issue.Professionally, I think it's a wonderful idea for the OVW champion and myself to travel to UPW and in some heel way protecting the credibility of the champion in promotion.screw the UPW champion out of the titlewith an angle afterward to shoot a rematch for the following week.In that match as a professional,the OVW champion would put the UPW champion over cleanafter my interference had been foiled by any UPW baby face,parentheses S or faces.
21:22Before the match via the internet,I could in my own inimitable way convince the internet marksthat no matter what they think about wrestling,or think they know.I hate Rick Bassman.And shit would probably take place at the eventand then I was bringing a seven-foot giant, Matt Morgan,to humiliate the UPW champion.
21:45During the week as visiting wrestling school trainer,it would be natural for me to conduct seminars,explain psychology to the local students.So that was the offer that he was trying to pitch,hey, because I'd probably knocked him at that point,point somewhere, called the office on him for something. Hey, what about if he brings theOVW champion out? We do an angle with his guy and my guy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,right? So I'm responding to the idea that he is pitched with what I think is a very professional
22:20response, correct?As far, yes.Well, I continue. That says a professional.personally this little cretan has so much heat with danny davis and myself that i cannot beginto describe it exposing not only the business but how it's worked on national tv documentaries andtrain at home tapes i forgot about that he was doing that too taking percentages of the boys hard-earnedmoney after they paid him to go to his school etc and again the six flags who is this littlefart that he is qualified to run a wrestling school to begin with.
22:59He's never taught anyone anything except how to write a check, and he would not even be a blipon the wrestling radar screen, if not for his habit of smartening up everyone in the worldof running a fast food wrestling school.Anyway, and if I did conduct a seminar, my advice to everyone there would be to run from thisshister as fast as you can and try to find a legitimate school.so that actually there's again there's a page two personally there's no amount of money on earth that would convince me to in any way lend credibility to bassman's feeble attempts to ruin the wrestling profession but as a professional in the words of ted de bison i see every man has his priceyou want to hear this oh let's hear what your prices yeah this is like one of those hayman pitches well i offeredJim Cornett and the OVW champions live appearances,
23:58the trip, angle, promotion of same, matches and seminars.He also pitched, well, he can do a seminar way he's out here.And all ancillary elements is $50,000.A cashier's check for 50% of the money would have to arrive in my handsat least two weeks prior to the dates, blah, blah, blah,contracts, cashier.check, balance on arrival, cover Matt and Matt Morgan's talent fees, transportation, lodging,and meals, all of which we would arrange on our own. And if there are any part of this arrangement
24:32would be reneged on, a seven-foot giant would wreak some type of havoc, and I would explainit on the internet for the rest of time. And I said, as I'm ambivalent about the answer,either way, I will await your reply if any of this proposal. I don't, I don't have any other peoplework on it, so I don't think I heard back.See, Matt Morgan needed someone like this to talk for him on TV, even though he could talk,but what, you're building this up.I want to see Matt Morgan go out there and start.Yes.
25:05Anywho, so that, uh, it's always something.Every time I stick my hand in the pile here, I find something to remind me of somebodyelse that tweaked me off at some point in time.It's so interesting, too, because obviously he would have known that he tweaked you off beforehe said whatever he said to Tom Pritchard, so that Tom Pritchard ended up as the intermediaryor whatever you want to say in this, the liaison, attempted liaison in this situation.Yes.He had to know that, but it makes a question than anything after that.
25:36And it makes you know, there are other people out there.How much of what they say is what you do, just saying what you think and what you doversus, you know, hey, we're actually working an angle.You know, now that we're talking, why don't you come work for me?why do you come appear on this show?That's what the Young Bucks.Remember that's what the Young Bucks thought years ago?Well, see, we were never even talking.
25:58I never talked to this fucking guy.But I think, as I said,I think that I had either knocked himor Stoogged on him to the office recently enoughthat he had this idea because he's a mark.You know, it'll get some attention,hey, let's do an angle with the developmentaland blah, blah, blah, and everything.
26:17And if people will believe it,Yeah, I'll make them believe it all right.But anyway.When I did Yama pit fighting, he was representing MMA fighters at that point.That's right.Yeah.That's right.He was doing that.
26:32It just...Can I tell you something?How many different brands of jock can he sniff?I'm sorry, go ahead.I'd put money down that he was leaking stuff to Dave Meltzer.Because Dave Meltzer had some like shit in there that was almost right.But it was like, there was like weird things that were awful.Almost like someone didn't really know what was going on.
26:50And I was like, okay.Who's representing this fighter and this fighter, this fighter, this fighter, and this fighter, and knows Dave Meltzer.Well, I don't think you can actually accuse him of being a leak.He's more like an open fucking fire hydrant to get attention or publicity or credibility or leach one of those things off somebody.But nevertheless, hey, Rick, if you're still alive and they haven't confined you, how are you?Love to see you never.Well, you know, the other thing, well, then one other thing, I'll just say,say, though, even the offer, after Sina, I mean, forgive me for not knowing my UPW history or
27:30whatever it is, who did wrestle? Did they have a champion? Did they have anyone of note? Was it anythinglike, like CZW had a little bit of a following when Ring of Honor and CZW did their thing? That'swhy it worked. I don't know who any of his folks were at that point in time. Let's do a cross-countryinter-promotional feud between OVW and UPW? He was wanting to get over withthe office.That's what youin some kind of way and the officeand or the internet.
28:01Not actually like it would selllarge numbers of ticketsfor any reason.It was just some fucking markish thing.Do you think peopleinherently like seeing like a big baby facebeat the shit out of a smalllike tiny heel manager?
28:20Even if the person's like smaller thansometimes you wouldsee someone small, I hope that person doesn't get hurt.But if they were a heel,you know what I mean? Like if they're a heel, then it's like, okay,I'd like to see him get punted or something.Yeah. Do you think that's something that we don't see enough of in wrestling,like the tiny, like tiny heel manager that you just can't wait to see him get his
28:38ass kicked than he does?Well, yeah, definitely. I think we should see more.We don't see any of that.I mean, a tiny heel manager right there that eliminates poor Paul.I just turn it to this again.I just said the tiny heel manager.I mean, when you take his gravitational pull,it's hard to get away from him.
29:05But no, yes, there should be tiny heel managersor wishy-washy, cowardly, you know,physically unimpressive heel managersthat get to shit kicked out of them.but not every small person can be a heel managerthat you want to see the shit get kicked out of it.They got to be good at it.That's, there's the rub.
29:29Like the brief period of time where Harvey Whippelman was a managerand like kind of the top heel manager in WWF as crazy as that sounds,he looked really small because it was Sid, Kamala.Yeah, he's really small.And he's really small, but it looked really small,but he never took, like, if he took any bumps, I don't remember them.There weren't a lot of memorable.Like Jimmy Hart, I could see just,
29:52I could see his little kicks,and then I could just see him taking these awkward falls all the time.Well, I love downtown Bruno.Mama says it bees that way sometimes, baby.Love Harvey, but he was not Bobby Heenanwhen it came to the physical aspects.Am I being nice enough?Sometimes you could have hurt him.
30:17he was very frail,but you didn't want to bump him sometimes.Hilda brand would have bumped.Well,oh my God,he'd have been a fucking human super ball out there,but that was,see,
30:28the Pittsburgh gods gave Bruno the mouthand Brian the fucking work.And in each of them,the 135 pounds of the 270,they would have been in it.You can figure outsome kind of way to surgically graft.Um,
30:46where were we going with that?We were, we were going, we were in Jim's letters.Letters to Jim.Oh, but no, but no.I finished the letter, but we were about the small managers.Tiny, tiny managers.Tiny, tiny little small.Almost, you can't see them.
31:05Could Lord Little Brook have been an effective heel manager?Like the royal family really didn't take off, but the idea of a diabolical heel manager,but it's also a little person?like Mr.fucking evil or what was the guy?No, not saying that's small.That's very small.No, Dr. Loveless on the Wild Wild West.
31:25But see, hey, think about this.Here's the perfect analogyof why what you just said would not work.And I'm agreeing with you,it probably wouldn't work.Lord Littlebrook didn't take off it.The royal family was not meant to be a top heel getting team.It was Jack Victory and Rip Morgan
31:43and the office,J.R., everybody loved Littlebrook,that it's a feature thing, right?But you couldn't bump adult,not adult, but a goddamn,large, normal-sized,giant person,couldn't be bumping a little person,
32:01even if they got that kind of heat.And that's the thing in the Wild Wild West,Jim West beat the shit out of 15 people every episode.He never once punched Dr. Lovelace,never struck him, never physicallyfucking manipulated himbecause that, no, then that's bad, that's bad heat.So you, but you can have a small,
32:29if it sounds like the world's largest midget,you can have a small, normal size person,the smaller the better, but if they cross intothe little person territory, you can't touch them.So take a yardstick to these some bitches for you hire them.That's what I'm trying to say.Is that it?Thank you for the clarification, yes.
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34:47wherever the whatever fits best the road to hell may be paved with too many peopletrying to get in there now you may want to just tell them to fuck off speaking of the roadto hell um yeah our friend Colin Thompson over there he's the major domo over there atcast media well he's got a new front man now like Roy Welch used toput in the new territories he'd open up.But nevertheless, we've given some updates on him,and you can find the deposition videos where he looks so uncomfortableon the Arcadian Vanguard YouTube channel.
35:25Just go to that, and you'll see a bunch of deposition videos.But he's obviously, he's back in the game.He's got a plan.He's going to reorganize himself.He wants to get back heavy into the podcast,business and so we have we've been mentioning the press release he put out where he said he wants tobe a beacon of transparency and truth and try to avoid the mistakes he's made in the future.And so in the interest of that transparency, something you can see practically through like it
36:01ain't even there.And part of this little bankruptcy deal that we've been involved in with him, not part of the otherlittle lawsuit that we're involved in with him.but he has to supply a, is it monthly, Brian?Is this the period of time we're talking about a monthly report?Every month.Every month he's got a supply report on how much came in and how much went out and how things are going.And maybe this might be, if you're looking to getting business with Colin Thompson or invest in his, you know,
36:37maybe he, hopefully he can make a ton of money here and pay back the $6 million.dollars he owes people us amongst us being two of them of those millions of dollars um i hope hejust tears it up but you know maybe if you're thinking about doing business with him you can listento this and we'll keep you updated every month or so on on how he's doing and uh brian you knowhow to read these documents better than i do but did i give a halfway decent summation of whatwhat we're talking about here you did i guess just a couple things before we'rewe get going with this, and this is, again, public record. So it's not like we're exposing anythingthat anyone can't access. We just have inside information that could talk about it. I think a couple
37:20important things to note. One, we mentioned previously that it wasn't known to the public that he wasworking with a company called James Media. He told the bankruptcy court that Cast Media was an operationsconsultant running the operations of this company, as well as getting ad sales money, and we'veseen the details. We have the contracts.And...Yes, and let me just jump in. That wasanother fun thing aboutthis whole long,
37:50gruelingbankruptcy process that made ColinTegg's jacket office many timeswas that we were able to find out that therewas not justa level of incompetence,which there was, but there was alsoa level of things that
38:06we could take action on. Andwe got that information during the course,of what, toward the end of someof it came in of this proceeding.That's right. That's right. We found out thatwe thought things may have happenedand it turns out it did happenand it turns out it was a specific
38:22person. It wasn't just cast mediadid something. No, it was a specific personand thankfullythis is one of those areasthe state of California actuallyhas something where people likeJim and myself and actually other podcastersthere are other people who
38:38invested money. I mean, anyone, really.really can bring action against the actual individuals who committed the fraud, did the deed,did doing the thing, whatever you want to say.Deped out the back, Jack.I brought up the James Media thing.He's now listed on their website as the chief operating officer,Colin at Jamesmedia.com.Is James Media still representing like Frank Sinatra and Queen Elizabeth and
39:09Major names.According to this website here,we got Pod Save America,we got Call Her Daddy,we got Club Random with Bill Maher,Joe Rogan show,the Trevor Noah,What Now Show,
39:19the Adam Carolla show,Jordan Harbinger,whatever this guy's name is,Lady Gang,Theo Vaughn,Sarah Silverman,Julia Lee Drefis,Jim Rome.
39:31What percentage of those peopleknow that they're onthe James Media website?Have we got that information yet?What percentage of those peoplehave ever heard of James Media. But we'll get to that. Again, there's going to be a lot morein the future, but let's get back to cast media, and let's get back tothe monthly report. And, you know, I hate to steal a line from you, but I'm going to,
39:52and I hate to say I told you so. Uh-oh. Like we told the judge,the plan he confirmed is dead on arrival, in our estimation. Sure enough,cast media for the month of May, the month was just past May.2025, as soon as the plan got confirmed, lost $25,572 for the month.Now let's break this down.Bring it down.And there may be some other issues with some of the things that are checked here,but we'll get to that error.
40:27The lawyers will.The opening balance on all cast media accounts for May had $108,228.and 50 cents. So that's what they started with. Total cash receipts, how much they received during the month.$34,711.30 cents. Total cash disbursements, the money going out. 60,000, $283.00. The net cash flow is negative.$25,572.272.20leaving cash on hand at the end of the monthof $82,656.50.And 30 cents.
41:20Well, now,just cousin Brian,that just don't add up.And now, but here's the thing,if he's not given anybodythat he owes the moneyfrom the $6 million from beforehand,and not giving him any money
41:39where's all that $60,000 going?What does he do with that?Well, let's get that information here.And of course, none of this includesthe filings that were just made, I believe.None of this is in here.The filings that were just made to the courtby his bankruptcy attorney
41:58and the trusteeasking for their money.Oh, they hadn't paid a lawyer?Well, he's been paying installments,and we'll talk about this.He's been paying lawyers for a long time,but I mean, apparently not,they're needing to ask for their money.
42:12But it's just more money coming out of the general potthat was sold to gullible creditorsas you're going to get something.You're going to get nothing.Let's go back to this.How much have you paid in the last monthin professional fees related to the bankruptcy case?$20,000.
42:32And that all went to, we believe,his lawyer Leslie Cohn in Santa Monica.Fine City, Santa Monica.How much has been paid in professional fees related to the bankruptcy since the case was filed?Up to this point, he had paid $134,148.And 27 cents.He claims that they have unpaid bills of $28,132.22.And $28,000. However, money owed to him, or excuse me, to cast media, $88,000.
43:06279 and 88 cents.If we go down here to the breakdown,here's the money that came in.From subscription sales via Apple,for people that subscribe to whateverfucking awful content in my estimation,he's trying to get people to pay for.And if you don't believe me,
43:25go read the reviews every one of his shows.People think it's AI.People don't even think it's real people anymore.That's how bad the quality is.But anyway, subscription sales to Apple.$3,637.and $58.Soundstack
43:42advertising sales.This would probably beprogrammatic sales.$753.$11.You know, there's peoplethat stand in front of storeswith those sandwich board signs
43:56that make more moneyin the course of a weekthat he got in a monthfrom his, all right.Micro dose,which I believe would be a sponsor.Yeah, he's,He needed to do that during the deposition.
44:08Well, they are a sponsor apparently of his programs, and they paid $2,625 in the month of May.Here's one payment from James Media for advertising sales, $25,481.96.So the attention getting some of money that I've heard so far has something to do with these James,media folks. Yeah, James Media, which all of a sudden popped up as a company in the summer of last year,and then we believe Colin testified that he was out in California meeting with them right after that.And cast media, although Colin Thompson is now listed as her chief operating officer,isn't that the guy you want running your operations, especially your books?Colin Thompson secured a deal with them, he says, for cast media, but now his name is listed there.
45:04but they paid him that.Podcast 1.Advertising sales.$103.77.Now, to be fair, there's a little more from them.Advertising sales from James Media,$1,976.48.And one more time from Podcast 1,133.40 cents.
45:31or that podcast one relationship has really paid off for him with a gold mine.Yeah, and again, he says here he's expecting a lot of money, and I believe it has herefrom podcast one.He's expecting a lot of money.You know what?A lot of people expect a lot of things, but as Mama Cornett used to say, and I paraphrase,expect in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.Yeah, Podcast One apparently, according to this, owes him 23,000.
46:01and $444 over 91 daysnegative $737.37 between $61 and 90 days.$8,000 between 31 and 60 days.Another 9,000 between 1 and 30.And it says here current is 12,000.Well, it sounds like podcast.Well, finder fee type of things and stuff like that pile up.Yeah, or maybe the shows just don't have an audience and aren't generating the income.
46:31Let's go here to what he spent money on.What cast media spent money on.Finuciary maintenance $25.Wait a minute.That was an overdraft fee.Well, that's what that was from East West Bank.Colin Thompson for reimbursements.His East West Bank went south.
46:58I'm sorry.I'll be two shows on Friday.For reimbursements, the contractor, Colin Thompson, received $712.61.A freelancer, the production cost for Sarah McLaughlin, two times in a row, $1,300.Abby Newhouse, another freelancer for production, $1,800.Colin Thompson, contractor, CEO for April 13th through April 26th,$6,923.And I think that's an important thing to note.
47:38Contractor.He's no longer an employee of the company he ownsand is the chief creative officer, I believe of.He's a contractor.This is some kind of fucking AEWVP kind of shit.He's working for himself.Well, like that old country song, I'm my own grandpa.Leslie Cohn Law.
48:00Legal services, $20,000.Ouch, he's on a payment plan, I would imagine.Google Office Expense Software and Apps, $789.60.There's someone named Connor M. Powell, a freelancer for production.He received $27.50, and then this next one is in italics, so I'm not sure exactly what that signifies here.$2,88.38.38.Colin Thompson, reimbursement as a contractor, $2.16.97.And then again, second time this month, $6,923.8 for being the CEO from April 27th through May 10th.
48:47So he's paying himself about $3,000 a month of running a company that's going in the hole and is just trying to come out of bankruptcy.No, he's paying himself a lot more than $3,000 a month.Well, I mean, you know, just in those, no, did I say a month?I mean, a week, $3,000 a week.Yeah.In those, just in those $6,000 payments.Office expense, software on apps, $65.East West Bank, an analysis of the activity, $116.80.
49:20Yeah, it cost us a lot more for the people that analyzed his activity, but they did a better job of it.Jared Einson, a consulting content development person, $3,500.So it looks like he's trying to develop some new shows.QuickBooks for software and apps, $235.Colin Thompson reimbursements, $1,122.$91.Again, he has a company card, doesn't pay rent, lives with his father-in-law,doesn't pay anything on the card that he already took for himself from the
49:57company. Why? What are the reimbursements? But anyway, that's it for another time. And then finally,for Colin at least, contractor CEO, May 11th through May 24th, $6,923. So I paid himself now threetimes within the month. Jesus Christ, I thought, wait a minute, how could you get three,two-week periods out of the same month? Has he changed the calendar? He's theMaster of Funny Math. Maybe we'll have to ask him to that question. Abby Newhouse, a freelancer forproduction, $1,200, and finally Connor Powell, freelancer production, 1493-99.Well, it doesn't sound like there's anything free about them either. You know whose name wasn't there?The new CEO. Hmm. That's interesting.
50:49Wonder if it's an honorary type. Yeah, well, we'll see, because the next month will be the firstmonth that it would have to be reflected there that what is listed here as contractor to beCEO, that should no longer be what Colin's job would be. So that would be there for Colin,and then we should see the CEO's name and how much he's making because that's what they neededwas another expense on the books, was another person to pay on the books. That's a CEO andexecutive too. So by the way, if this guy's an executive and he's getting paid like $500 a monthor something, you can make this guy's a jerk off.If he's getting $2,000 a month, you're going to say, this guy's a jerk off.
51:26He's a CEO of a media company that's trying to pretend that they're bigger than they are.But that's the main points of the monthly report.Again, what's there and what isn't there is important.And the month before, when he had to impress upon the judge that they could meet therequirements to get their plan confirmed, all of a sudden there was a whole bunch of paymentscoming in, including $10,000 from his lawyer,Sackler Entertainmentfor content development
51:54or whatever he said he was doing.All of a sudden that was there that month. Who knows?We'll find that moreand again. It's important to know we are suing Colin Thompsonand his co-conspiratorsand podcast one and live onefor everything that they did to us.And we're not going to stop
52:13until so.Let's keep playing.Don't stop till you get enough.Ow!You know, Brian last, somebody else had enough, had enough.They couldn't take no more over there in Saudi Arabia.Did you see the CM Punk trended on Twitter?The video, the memes were everywhere.
52:46He's just an atrocious person.apparently from what some people saw,he just flat out, just football punted a kidtrying to get an autograph from.Of course, what other people sawwas him patting a young man on his shoulder.How can there not be a happy medium?Maybe he just slapped the kid lightly as he went by.
53:10It's a smarten up, kid.I don't believe he just patting him on the shoulder, though.He definitely kind of wanted to have some distance,it seemed like.You didn't think so?No, I think he was reaching out to go like, hey, kid, how you do it?He didn't want a kid to walk in front of him, blah, blah, blah.But let's set the scene anyway, because it's not a perp walk.
53:29It's the walk you make when the people that are there to take you to the goddamn promo roomor the press conference or whatever, like, okay, here we go.And then they got the fucking badge around their neck or whatever.That was the parade.That was the parade.Hear all the wrestlers parade them through to all the rich people that we allowed.to be here. Whatever he was goingto it. I don't say bad, but the
53:51backstage pass, thelaminate thing around the neck and thefucking t-shirt with the fucking logo onit. They're taking them. And I can'tremember who was in front of his. Orton wasin front of him. And they're walkingthrough like an arena hallwayand it's not like there's a
54:07screaming throng of people there. It'smostly empty, but I guess there's a few peoplestanding around. But they'rewalking through the hallwaygoing to wherever these people are taking them goand there goes Orton and here comes Punkand punk and punk has one of the guys with the laminateyeah here we go and the little kid comes up
54:28and he's want to say hello or whateverand as the camera is panningI see punk reach out like hey kid pat him on a shoulderand but then the camera loses thembut I also see the fuckinga guy with the laminate reaching outdoing the arm thing like okay kid we got to go to the thingnobody was struck
54:54nobody was goddamn assaultedand that's whatattracted my attention to it was when I saw on Twitterfirst thing when I turn it onis Sam Punk shoves kidand I'm like what what fucking there's nothere's no shoving there's no violencesay they walk on pass and everybody's gone to the deal he didn't have time to stop and
55:17chat unfortunately because they were doing the hustle walk i don't know you know how else anybodygot anything else out of that but there were memes of you know like punk drawing back withthe karate stance or whatever and child's point of view trying to ask for punk's autographwhat the fuck he's being he's doing he's being hustlesThe thing isit was one kidI don't knowthere was no one around him
55:46It just seemed likeWhere'd that kid come from?Yeah, so it stands outHe was probably the fuckingson of the guythat was setting upthe goddamn concession standWho knows?
55:57But it wasn't likeFunny if it was the prince's sonAnd the punk gets arrested over thereI thought the prince's sonwould have had long flowing robesAnd somebody carrying his trainThis kid was dressedAs a normal
56:09Everyday fucking smallall street urchin on, you know, on theperiphery of the event.Did you see punk just, oh my God, someone just sent this in?Punk apologized on a stage thereto the people for his tweet about Saudi Arabia.Told him it wasn't about them, it was about the Miz.Oh, oh, I thought he'd tweeted something lately.
56:32No, he apologized and said he woke up in a bad moodit wasn't about Saudi Arabia.But look.How much is they paying him?How much is he getting for this?But wait, it was just about he just wanted the mills to suck any kind of dick.Just any, just any kind of dick, miss.It had nothing to do with the murderous kind of dick, yes.
56:57But back up a second.Oh, now he's holding a sign that says fuck a shogi.No way.Oh, back up a second.Oh, he's wearing a headdress.But he can be Chief Thundercloud.He's being sold by Ken Patera to the Arabs.Jerry Blackwell.
57:22Ken Patera, see him, punk.Sheik punk.The Honorable Sheik Punk.Ayatollah punk.I was going to ask you something.No, I know what it was.Did he just divine himself?Does the average...
57:42person inSaudi Arabia,even averagewrestling fan knowthat, what,10 years agoor five years ago,whatever it was
57:52that he tweetedto the Mizand fuckingknock Saudi Arabia?I'll play youthe audio.I have the audio here.Let's check out the audio.
58:02It is interesting to knowlike punk apologizes for nothing.He is all of a suddenon a stage there and let's play the audioright now.This guy wants me to apologize for a mean tweet I wrote six years ago.Hey, listen, legitimately had nothing to do with Saudi Arabia.I woke up and I was crabby and I wrote a mean tweet to the Miz.
58:29And I apologize to the Miz.And sir, what's your name?Mohammed?Here, watch out.I'm going to step right here.Muhammad, I sincerely apologize to you and I love Saudi Arabia.Well, there it is.He apologizes to Muhammad the fan and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
58:52Well, besides the fact that they were chatting to shut the fuck up lightly in the background,they were trying to bleep.So some of his apology was garbled there, but...I apologize to Muhammad and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and please give me back my passport.Please.Please.I understand he's over there.They've said, because again, my question is, does the average person,
59:18or was it just that the fucking prince and his royal train carriers?So he tweeted bad about us, so they said,oh, you've got to apologize in front of people, whatever.I can understand apologizing to the prince and the kingdomand the little people down at the bottom of the valley.But why did he have to apologize to the Mids?See, that's the crime.No, I, you know, somebody had to go and say, okay,
59:57they had to go, okay, there's certain things that you need to sayto smooth over our relationship with the,and he's, again, he's over there, what's he going to fucking do?That's why I've never been an advocate of a proponent of going into situations like thiswhere people can do their own thing to you.Well, and actually we're in one right now.It's bad enough we're in the United States right now where you can be kidnapped off the streets,but at least you can understand them when they tell you why they're doing it.
01:00:34Well, so.This is going to fire up the AEW punk haters.Like this is going to fire them up because this is this is also right before we are recording this right now, obviously right before.Actually, not even right before.Well over a day before the night of champions event.But they're going to cheer Sina and they're going to do punk.Hold on now.If in the next day, again, we don't know how media necessarily works there.
01:01:03Social media is a thing in some form.I don't know how the company, the company, the country, the country, the country,the oil fields, I don't know how they restrict it.Will the fans, if they see CM Punk,not just apologize to Muhammad, the fan,but apologize to the kingdom.Apologize to Muhammad himself.No, he's apologizing to the kingdom.
01:01:25So, I mean, there...I know, but what about if he had apologizednot to Muhammad, the fan, but to Muhammad, Muhammad?I apologize to Muhammad.Well, no one's ever done that before.See, hey.break new ground.Or you can say it's clobber in time, Muhammad.
01:01:43No, what if he wrote a camel to the ring?Didn't they think he was Lawler in the Mid-South Coliseum?But here's the thing I'm thinking is,overseas audiences traditionally cheer for people based onnot only star power but long how long you've been a star,how much of an icon you are.And because they're getting to see Sinaand it's the retirement tour and everything,
01:02:07and there is athere is a segment that hates punkwith every fiber there beingand can't standthat anybody doesn't think he's anything otherthan just a slimy,no good, disreputable gum bumpand sack of snake feces.
01:02:24And with that mixed together,do you think,will it go,will it go the Sinaway?The scenic route.Or apparently you don't.You know?Anything.
01:02:38Again, Sina got cheer.for the pipe bomb, but that's in the States.Not like they haven't seen it over there.He's the bigger star.Here's the question I have for you, and I don't know the answer off the top of my head.Any of the Sina appearances over the last six years,did he make several of the Saudi shows?I don't remember.
01:02:57Oh, good Lord.I don't know off the top of my head.Because that's the other thing.If it's his first time there, obviously.Well, it's his last time there, one way or another.Well, at least for wrestling.Who knows?maybe a big party somewhere.
01:03:13First time last time.Hey, they may,but the prince may bring him overon a private jet toto get him to apologize to Muhammad sometime.We don't get you to send over more wrestlersto apologize next time.Yes, can we get some fresh apologies
01:03:29on the next super show?This could be punk's new gimmickbecause now he has another thing to apologize.And by the way, I didn't push that kid.I didn't even see him.I thought I was being attacked.play a dwarf.I know a lawyer in Greensboro that can get, get him off for the same,
01:03:45same thing happened to me, the kid's dad sued.I've told that story before, but I can, I can refer punk to the attorney because,you know, God damn it, anyway.You know, Brian, sometimes it makes me just want to just throw it all away,just get away from all this madness and pursue my dream.build me a new business, plant it in the ground and watch it grow into an empire from scratchwith a new dream that I have that has nothing to do with wrestling and all about the all-purposesolvent, the formula that can dissolve anything, I just can't figure out what to put it in.
01:04:32Folks, if you've got a dream, if you wake up every morning thinking I could leave all thishustle, bustle, hurry, scurry, riffraff of the world in my job that nobody appreciates.And I could break away from this burdensome life and this family and his wife and his kids.And that mother-in-law and holy mackerel, the neighbor I'd like to kick him and he asked.Just get away from it all.And have your own private island.You got to start somewhere, don't you, Brian?You got to start somewhere.
01:05:05And I say, you start with your dream and you go to Shopify.and let them do the rest.They can do all that stuff from then down to purchasing the vacation home on the private islandand the South Seas.They can do it and just give them a dream.Just say, I have a dream and they'll do the rest and they'll send you a lot of the money.It's amazing what they do.They've built international conglomerates like Shmiblum and Shmooby.
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01:07:09so no, they did not.I sent them a picture of it.Who?Who'd you send?Well, you know, I said, hey, what can you do about this?Because they said they got world class expertise and everything.But I'll tell you another thing, they have got a new sound effect.They have said to show you how much money that they're going to make you,
01:07:29our friends at Shopify sent the new, cha-ching, that they've got copyrighted and customized.And we're going to play.Brian, can you play that right?now when I ask you to play that right now.What the fuck is that?You didn't hear that?There you go.No, I heard it, but that's not a cash register.
01:07:52No, it's like a...It's like a hamster going up and ringing a bell to get more seed.I guess what is the start there?Is it you throwing change in the jar?What is that?I think it's the rat that's pulling a rope on the little desk bell, on the hotel.desk. See, it's like a hotel desk with a... I hear coins, like coins at the very beginning.Like Vince McMahon. Three coins in the fountain. Well, folks, Shopify can do everything except make
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01:09:44last weekI guess it was on the programhere. We started another thing that I found in my files, the TNA agent reports that I'd sent outweeks before my departure from the company. Terry Taylor had asked for him, want to be honest,tell us, tell us just like you'd tell us in person, Jim. And on the matches that I was directlyinvolved in producing and in my overall thoughts on everything else that happened at thetaping. And I guess if people want to catch up, it's on YouTube. You can go back and watch, or watch, listen to last week's experience, or you can go to YouTube and listen to the clip, but it's the agent report we did the pay-per-view and the first TV after Hard Justice 2009 was the pay-per-view and then the TV afterwards. And that's kind of what we're doing here. We're reading through what I was telling them.that I thought was going on with their television show
01:10:49as of that period of time.This was after Jeff was gone,and then Savio was gone,and then Road Dog was gone,and then Dutch was gone.And I'm trying to not only be the lead producer,but also, as Jeff had asked me,try to not let our friend go too far
01:11:13and the whole thing go to shit.Right?So I got a lot of people I'm trying to make happy here.Have I summarized that?I think so.And just something to point out after the first one, first installment,the first two different things that we did went up.Matt Morgan was on the YouTube page making comments about this time
01:11:33because you talked about him.And we have something here from the culticorna Facebook group.Wait, wait a minute.Don't hold on, don't gloss over that.Matt Morgan was on the internet making comments.A lot of times people would think,he have to say he's bitching. No, he was verycomplimentary and kind of was
01:11:49validating what we were saying.I just wanted to not gloss over that, but go ahead.This was posted in the group on Facebook by Doug Dirtle,aka Doug Williams.Oh, okay.Color me surprised to hear Jim talkabout the six-minute street fightmyself and Nick had with beer money
01:12:07and TNA on the experience.I remember it specifically due to the followingexchange after the match.and he wrote me, any good?And then your response, no, but you got the best out of it that you could.I took it as a compliment with a smiley face emoji.So we hear from some of the talent you've talked about in these already.It was a trying time.
01:12:37We were all trying, but there were forces beyond our control.Oh, Dixie Land.and I'll take my stand anyway.So would you like to pick back up with another one of the episodes of impact?This was 448.And that was the episode number and no, I don't think they had done 448 of them.No, they'd have been on for 10 years in 2009.I don't know what their numbering system was, but I went with it, okay?
01:13:09The first man to suicide, who you will remember.was a maskedwrestler that at least ata lot of points was FrankieKazarian. I think, right?You remember? I think so too, yeah.And then I think they had somebody else do itif he got hurt or whatever the case.
01:13:30But anyway, suicideversus Samoa Joeand then it was to bethe Pope D'AngeloDe Niro, Elijah Burke,and Chris Daniels were to getinvolved and turn it into a tag team match.suicide and Daniels, Joe and Pope.
01:13:48Suicide versus Joe was good.Joe worked hard again, but Pope and Daniels' involvementcame a little too quickly.It all happened at the same time.The fans didn't know and liked it.The cause was Pope not knowing he needed Pope's street clothesand having to go shopping that day,which delayed everyone getting together until late in the day.
01:14:10It wasn't a big problem because the fans couldn't telland the show was heavy anyway.The tag match was good and got everything accomplishedit was supposed to.They jumped their spot, right?And sometimes it happens,but they saw their cue was A,will body slam B and B accidentally body slammed A
01:14:30and whatever the fuck, right?But the problem was,Elijah Berg shows up his debut,he's got all his fucking gear.He doesn't have.have goddamn clothes to make him look like huggy bear on Starsky and Hutch.So he had to go out and find some shit because our friend Mr.Russo, who I will call by his Christian name during the course of this so that
01:14:59everybody knows exactly who to point a finger at.He said, oh yeah, you didn't really going to do that.Oh shit.So you had to go out and buy shit, right?Anyway, comments on that.On that match, I don't remember the match.I watched it, but...I mean, it's interesting to hear your perspective as...
01:15:19I mean, technically you're the agent.You're filing an agent's report.Were you the agent for the match?Yes.These that I'm talking about, I was the agent for the match,and then I have other random thoughts on other stuff.Because I was the agent in the truck for everything, as we covered.And by the way, we mentioned that Matt Morgan comment on YouTube earlier.
01:15:37It starts with this.I don't think fans understand how difficult it was for Jimmy to turn to these agent reports.Knowing the head of our creative was an absolute moron.Well, that kind of gives you the tone of the thing.Anyway, Rhino versus Jesse Neal.Do you remember Jesse Neal?I remember the name.I hadn't thought of the name in forever.
01:16:04I don't remember the person.I remember the name, though.Well, and as a matter of fact, you know what?Google him if you can, if he's even Googledable at this point.for a second because he got badly injured.He was a young rookie.I can't remember how they found him,but it's another thing.
01:16:24Oh,everybody, Dixie was high on everybody.Let's get this kid over.Really, again, I don't remember where they found himor how he got trained or whatever.But he started out and got badly hurtand couldn't wrestle anymore.And they said, well, you've got a job for life as a producer.
01:16:43or whatever the fuck,and then not long after that,they fired him,and I don't know whatever happened to him.I hadn't thought about him either.I looked up this,or looked at this paper.Can you find anything on him?
01:16:55Wikipedia, I'm just scanning through.There's a lot.Whoever entered the stuff hereis a big fan of his stuff on the Indies.They entered a lot about it.Oh, yeah, he was, right.They found him.He was already working Indies or whatever.
01:17:09Well, while you find that,I will say the quick match,but exactly it was a little.laid out no problems. Rhino is still a baby face to the fans because they tried to switchhim heel. But this mistreatment of Jesse got him a little heat. I know Jesse is supposed to be arookie quote unquote, but he continues to wear a sweatshirt and gym shorts to wrestle in. The deal wasthat he was brand new and they had introduced him some kind of way in a typical Russo-Marcish.I said, I feel it makes him look outlaw or indie and folks just switching on.
01:17:43our show makes us look Bush League.If he needs to wear tights,if people are expected to buy him as a proon a program of this level.Anyway, more on Jesse Neal.Here we go.Jesse Neal revealed in an interview with Brian Alvarezthat TNA wrestling refused to pay his hefty medical bills
01:18:03stemming from the neck injury he sufferedat the May pay-per-view event, sacrifice.The injury...What a hell of an event to get hurt on.The injury occurred during the conclusion of the matchpitting Inc. Inc.Against Mexican Americawhen Hernandez executed a dominator-like finisher on Neal.
01:18:25Oh, geez.An MRI showed he had a bulged discafter being spiked into the mat.Oh, geez.You remember it now?No, but what I'm fixing to get to herejust a little while shirt is going to tie in.Neil parted ways with TNA last month after organization officials asked him to relocate from Florida to Louisville, Kentucky to further his wrestling training at Ohio Valley Wrestling.
01:18:53That's when they had made a deal with Danny Davis.He was unable to comply with the request because the money they were offering, quote, wasn't even anything close to live on.So there's a little bit of info.Yeah, well, that's one of the things.It's been forgotten is how they dealt with him when he was, you know, well thought of at one point until, oh, shit, this might cost us money.I wonder if they gave him action figure.He wasn't around long enough to have one.And that what paper via sacrifice, that would have been since he was just starting here.
01:19:29They said, man.I was about to finish.That would have been 2010.Right?There's not a date on this.So I couldn't tell you.I'd have to look it up.But he, yeah.
01:19:40but it wasn't long.Anyway, the next match,and then we'll get to something here at a minute.Matt Morgan, Scott Steiner, and Booker T.versus Hernandez, AJ Stiles, and Sting.Good six-man tag.Everyone was easy to work with.Booker did everything I asked of him,
01:20:01which was very little and nothing more.Wow, what's that?What's that about?after his recent talking to's he was not going to cause any problems and instead came off to everyone as if he was humoring us with his presence and was clearly disinterested whoa what the fuck's going on above the tea everyone knows his M.O. and just worked around him.Oh, Jesus right.Well, I mean, here's the thing. Certain people that came from the WWF,set aside completely because he was a case by himself.He was just a maniac with working, injured, heard, do the best ever.
01:20:46He's Olympic champion, whatever the fuck.But other people that came from the WWF at the E, whatever,had different ways of processing what the fuck they walked into.And in some cases, it was sit back and just bilk them for all the money that they can.and other times it was,oh, we're going to try to do a good job hereto not embarrass ourselves.Mick Foley was always, oh, I want to pitch in.
01:21:16Booker at first came inand was going to change the world, baby.And then when he realized it was a fucking disorganized shit show,he just checked out and started auditioning accentsfor his acting career.He had a British accent one weekand a Jamaican accent one week.and and then he just, you know,
01:21:39it was like, ah, what the fuck?This shit doesn't make any,that was the whole error that he had.This doesn't make any sense.I don't give a shit.What are you in a devil?And then they talked to him every once in a while,as I referred to it.
01:21:53It wasn't me.I wasn't giving him the talking to.And then he, you know,because it was hard for a while.Dixie and or Terry Taylor.I don't know whoever, because Jeff was gone.But at first he questioned everything because there was a question for everything.But a lot of people realized the parameters they were working under and just let's take it and make it better.
01:22:26But he didn't want to take it and make it better.He just wouldn't ask what all the fuck was wrong with creative all the time bogged down.why would we do this?What the fuck would that be about?Why would we say a thing like that?But none of this shit makes any sense.So let's make it better,not just bitch about it, blah, blah, blah.
01:22:47Like I said, everybody processed it in different ways.What now?He wasn't wrong in a lot of cases.No, he wasn't wrong, but he was goddamn painto get anything done with while everybody else is sitting aroundgoing, all right, let's figure it out then.And that's because he was, you know, gobsmacked at,Why? Yes, well, look at this fucking idiot over here. That's why. Now let's figure it out how to fix it.
01:23:12And then what he got talked to for fucking over-questioning everything? Then he just sat back andwhat the fuck and practiced accents and whatever. Anyway. However, going on with the description,in this match, my priorities were Hernandez being supermex, furthering Morgan's story with angleand making AJ as strong as possible since his first matchbackfrom nearly quitting after all his setbacks.That was a storyline thing.And as we mentioned, Hernandez,they wanted him to be a Latino superstar as a single
01:23:49when they broke him away from homicide.And he had never been pushed as a single before.And he had actually not worked before T&Afor any major league promotion at a high levelso he still needed some work,but he was in his 30s and time was running out,so they wanted me to especially invest in Hernandez.Anyway, continuing, I deliberately had Booker and Sting starts
01:24:20so we could shine Sting a little,and Booker couldn't pull any shenanigans with him.Then had Steiner, who understood the situationwho was my veteran anchor, Shine A.J.,then saved Hernandez and Morgan for the spotlight of the break spot.everyone including myself has always told Matt as a giant he shouldn't let anyone manhandle himlike i had Hernandez do because then it meant something when he did uh Sean gaveand Sean Hernandez's name Sean gave Matt a 15 second delayed vertical suplex
01:24:50then hit his air Mexico dive for the break so he was gold then I had AJ sell for theheels heat sting actually offered to sell and give Hernandez the tag but I explained that II see AJ as a Ricky Morton who gets over by selling and then triumphing over the long odds,and especially in his first match back from his losing streak, I wanted AJ to do most of the workin this situation.AJ hit a great hot tag, parenthetically not the WWE simultaneous tags that suck, to Hernandezwho cleaned house and looked strong doing it, breaking into a six-way sting and Booker got tangled upwith the referee and took him to the floor with him.
01:25:35AJ and Steiner went where they were supposed to on the floor.This left Matt and Hernandez in the ring as Matt stopped Hernandez Steiner,who I put in this position because I knew I could rely on him to be there,came in with the chair.And Matt said, no way I'm falling for that again.And as they argued, Hernandez blasted him into a double knockoutand tagged AJ in for the flying press and the pin on Morgan.the baby faces got over and left
01:26:02Morgan laid out Steiner and Bookerand we went off the air with Morganand Angle staring each other down.There was a lot of different storiesthat we had telling that matchbecause of the paper viewsongoing that we had monthlywhere we were trying to build those people
01:26:21and those issues,but at the same timethat we had a creative directorthat was just bookingall the top starsin big fucking matches every week for ratings.So you had to straddle that balance beam.So looking back now, because I mean, you talk about a match
01:26:43and the people you're naming or guys todaythat are either freshly retired or like Sting,even though he was an older guy,who were still active, but maybe towards the end of their career like AJ,I don't know where Hernandez is.I have no idea what, if he's still wrestling somewhere,I don't know what I doubt he is,because we haven't heard anything, but looking back now,
01:27:05was it that he wasn't the right guy?Was it just the booking?Was it more than the booking?Did he have a ceiling?Like, they obviously wanted him to be their big star for at least a time.If George Scott in 1978 was booking, could it have happened?Like, was he the right guy from that, or what would you think?Yeah, he was the right guy for the spot.
01:27:27In most ways, he was little early.and I mean, I'm not all done with Hernandez here,but I'll jump ahead.I'll jump ahead in this after the random thoughtsbecause here's what I was trying to get done.The bottom of the report,also I spoke to Hernandez about coming to Louisvillesometime in September for a weekend to watch tapes,
01:27:51get in the ring with sparring partners,and have a personal course in selling and promosfrom myself and Danny Davis.he's all for it.He only asks that it be private as he doesn't want it on the internetthat he is being sent for training.And I wholeheartedly agree,we can keep it quiet here,
01:28:09but everyone in the TNA officethat needs to be aware of what we're doingneeds also to know it's not for public consumption.I'm going to meet with Danny early next weekto get information on when the arena would be availableand request two specific individuals to work with Sean.So please send a DVD of all.of his recent matches and promos.
01:28:31And when we get the date nailed down, I'll pull some stuff from my library also.They had, as I said, and here's another thing.He was from Texas and he is of Hispanic origin, but he was not actually not only not fluentin Spanish, but I don't think he spoke it at all when he got started.They wanted him to learn because he was.you know,he hadn't grown up in a housewhere they spoke Spanish.
01:29:04But they were also, they wanted to send himto Mexico where they thought that, you know, he might getmore ring time, but I explain thatthe problem is, again, if you wantto teach somebody how to work onAmerican television, the last thing you want to do is start him outin Mexico.Right? He might get some fucking ring
01:29:25time, but who knows what fuck he's going tolearn.I was trying to lay his stuff out.He was incredibly strong, just incredibly strong,and could demonstrate it like a doctor death or a goddamn road warrior animal.But at the same time, he had a few snazzy moves he could do,the splash and the flying slingshot shoulder block for a guy that size,that was impressive.
01:29:54And so I kind of did what, you know, in a lot of his little angles and the thingsbefore people, several people might get him down,is choreograph a burst of 30 seconds or a minutewhere he would just fling people one after anotherand make a big impression.And then I wanted to be able to teach himhow to sell without dying and staying immobileas a big powerful giant.
01:30:22You can't just take the guy down and hold him in a leglock.He needs to be selling and fighting and off balance.et cetera. And I thought that might be better done in, you know, in Louisville here where we couldtake some time with it because we didn't have any ring time down there. And clock wasticking because he was in his 30s. So that's why he's not wrestling. This is 15 years ago. He wasin his late 30s. I hope to God he's not still wrestling. I forgot he was that old. So,but he was the right guy if we could have taken more care with him. If the booking helped him and if wecould have brought him up speed in the ring.
01:30:59He was a tremendous person really wanted to get better and had gifts that you couldn'tteach, being as strong as a goddamn ox, and being able to move at that size and having thededication to want to learn.And the trip never happened, right?No.I'm about to get fired, as I mentioned.and that's one of the big reasons why Hernandez never happenedbecause, you know, then Dixie had all kinds of other shit to worry about
01:31:34and Rousseau didn't know anything about how to get a fucking guy like that over.So, you know, he was too serious for Rousseau.And anyway, well, let's, so thoughts on that and then I'll go back and finish this report.Well, no, I have no other thoughts.I've asked you a few questions.We can keep moving.But that's the thing is when you said Hernandez dropped the guy's head.I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ.
01:32:02You know, he didn't do it on purpose.He didn't do it from being unprofessional or not caring,but he could have used, he could have used some reps in the training center, as they say.That's what we were trying to do.And to teach him to think also about as a single.And as a top guy, he was very.very humble and he didn't think like a fucking main event guy because he'd never been in thatposition before anyhow if any of you millionaire main event wrestlers want this treatment one-on-one
01:32:32treatment with jim and danny davis working with you for a weekend at Louisville it ain't cheap butget in touch well now well danny davis would have to do it on the beach down near pensacolaat this point it ain't cheap and uh if you could do if you can do yard work and we'll clean out toCreek.The rest of this report in the world elite interview.Now this is another group.Again, Rousseau was taking.Eric Young was from Canada.
01:33:02And Sheikh Bashir, who was Sean Davari, was from wherever the fuck you're supposed to befrom in the Middle East.And they had a Japanese kid.And I think, and the Brits, our friends, the Brits, they were in it for a while.Just the world elite group of.everybody that's from another fucking country on the roster,whether they're elite or not, honestly, in some cases.But I said in the world elite interview,
01:33:29Bashir gets a ton of heat in his promoand takes Vince's material,makes it his own and adds great stuff.Eric Young mostly recites what is written for himand does it so slowly that in the truck we were queuing the crickets.And I'm not...Eric Young will be a bone of contentionhere as we work our way through these last days.
01:33:54Eric Young was a nice guy.Eric Young was a good hard worker.Eric Young was a very good in-ring guy.Eric Young was not an exciting promo.And Eric Young had been presented as an underneath comedy baby facethat was, when he would do his entrance,the power would go off and it would scare himand he would fall down on the ramp.
01:34:18every show for like months and months.And suddenly, as I mentioned, because he was Canadian,Russo wanted to put him into top fucking heel grouphe's putting together of these guys.So anyway, Bashir, in my opinion,is the key to the world elite heat and by far the group's best promo.I had a long talk with Hernandez about this promo.He is still nervous about speaking
01:34:49and was also smart enough to knowthat if he goes too far with the USA flag wavingbecause he was supposed to come out wavingthe fucking American flageven though he's the Latino superand of course it's not as bad as it would be nowbut still it was,we're trying to go in another direction here, right?
01:35:10Let's not confuse people.He's concerned that he could be seen as a Latino uncle Tom.that was a quote unquote, to his peoplebecause ultimately if the Latino people have a superstar,he must be Latino First American Second.I explained to him how to bring the Impact Zone fans into itby saying us and we and hitting his cadenceto deliver his go home line and he did very well.
01:35:38He did, however, break eye contact with the heelswhile telling them off, and I'll work with himon how to pause to regroup his thoughtswithout dropping the intensity and eye contact.Do you notice that, that some guys do that?Yeah.They will, they'll be telling somebody offand all of a sudden they might not be sure of exactly the thing
01:36:01they're going to say next,so they will stop and turn and they'll walk offlike they're so disgusted with that person,they must gather themselves.You don't need to do that.Take a fucking couple of breathsand stare in a guy's eyesand fucking make it look like you're meaning
01:36:20to gather up somevehemence and venom and then fucking do your thingbut when you break the eye or when you break the eye contactand still keep talking, it's even worse.But nevertheless, guns, machine guns,that was them, versus Abyss was good for what it was,but it just continues to marginalize the gunsto have both of them beaten easily by one guy.
01:36:44the guns have a lot of talentor the best in the business at what they dowhich is a fast-paced high-spot matchso I feel we should play more to their strengthsthey will never be the main event tag teamand I may have been a little fucking harsh therebut at that point in time in the fieldthey probably weren't going to be used that way
01:37:05I said but they can add to our cardsand under etcI was very happy to see Delo Brownthere and hear that he talked to Dixie about a possible agent wrestler spot we need a guy likehim in the ring a veteran that's still young enough to go to provide in ring experience toour next generation while not needing a $500,000 a year salary to be used in the main eventand if anybody think I was undercutting Dilo nobody was making 500 grand but staying and maybeangle at that point in time I've known Dilo for 15 years he's a dedicated
01:37:44hard worker who will give us exactly what we ask for if it's clearly defined for him what his role is to be he's an intelligent college graduate a former CPA and an accomplished worker so i was trying to get him as some semblance of sanityin the ring and in the office and i don't remember whether they brought him in then i wasn't there i may have mentionedbut I don't I don't think they brought him in then or you know what I think they'veI think they made him an offer but they wanted him just to be a producer and retire fromwrestling and that was the fucking idea he was a better worker than fucking most of the guys ona roster he could actually do the shit in the ring and then tell him what they did wrongafterwards but I don't know about that as I mentioned I wasn't even thatSlap some more papers.
01:38:43I'm just, I'm trying to find my paperclip.I don't want to get this stuff out of order here.Here it is.This is very important.Let's see, hard justice.What page is that?Got to keep this for goddamn posterity.Do you want me to go any further?
01:38:59Yeah.All righty then.Well, this is for the following set of tapings where we didhold on one two we did two nights of taping so how many shows did we do here 449 450 and 451 so we didthree two hour shows in two days all right now we're getting to the meat of the matter so theprevious bunch of reports that I have read so far here and the last clip that was the first set ofmajor reports I did for the pay-per-view and the two days of taping after they had asked me to dothese things to begin with. So now this is the set of major reports for the last set of TV tapings
01:39:52that I made in TNA. And I know I've told this story I'm hating because a lot of people are going tosay, oh, fuck, I don't want to go back to YouTube and hear the story and blah, blah, so I will try tocondense it as much as possible.Rousseau had booked another tournament.Something was going to happen after this tournament.We might get some insight in these notes.I haven't read them word for word.But in the tournament,
01:40:25and at this point,I was being sent the TV formatslike three, four days beforehand.If we were going to shoot on Monday,I might get them on Friday,whatever the fuck, right?And in this tournament, they were going to have, he was going to have,Hernandez end up wrestling Sting, two baby faces,
01:40:50Sting and Icon and Hernandez, as we mentioned, the Supermex,and we're trying to get over and push as a Mexican superhero.And they're both baby faces and they end up in this tournament.But, Brian, Sting earlier on TV,in another tournament match,Rhino has gored him and broken his ribs.And so now when Sting goes in this match,he's got broken ribs.
01:41:25And this was 2009, this was 15 years ago,so Sting was somewhere raised 50 years old, let's say.So he got a 50-year-old man with broken ribsgoing in the ring against the super mex.it's 300 fucking pounds and goddamn built like a fucking brick wall.And they're both baby faces.So Hernandez doesn't want to take advantage of the guy's broken ribs,but they were going to have him sneak up from behind staying and pin him while the heels were trying to interfere.
01:42:01I said, you mean to tell me that not only can the 300 pounds supermex superhero,that everybody thinks is 20 years younger than Sting, even if he's not,and he's a baby face,and Sting's got broken ribs and he's 50 years old,but the guy still has to sneak up behind him while Sting's attention is distractedto beat him.So you're going to turn our Mexican superhero into a backstabbing fucking prickand that he couldn't beat the fucking guy up until then
01:42:35that is ready for AARP and should have been taken to the hospital.am I overstating this, Brian, or do you get the picture here?I get the picture.Okay.So when I got that, I'd done something that I didn't do ever before in the three years that I'd worked there or afterwards since I wasn't going to work there very much longer.And I actually got on a phone with our friend Vince Rousseau to register how that we couldn't fucking do this.and let's do.Oh, and I'm sorry.
01:43:10I'm sorry.I left out one important thing.After he snug up and rolled up,rolled him up from behind,then Eric Young was,because the heels,the other members of the world elitehad done all this distraction bullshit.
01:43:22There's like four, five, six heels at ringside.But then Eric Young is going to come from the crowdwith a baseball bat and lay both Hernandezand staying out and then cut a promo over.Man, by the way,at our pay-per-view that was coming upin like fucking two weeks or whatever it was.Hernandez was in a big match
01:43:42and Sting was in a big match and I don't knowEric Young was on the cart.And did I mention again that Eric Younghad been the guy that was falling downfrom his own pyro, now he's going to lay waistto our top baby faces and stand over himand talk for a while.So I talked to Rousseau
01:44:00in the car on the way down with Stacedriving so I could talk and write.And I said,let's do something different to get to the same place and do a disqualification.And everybody I don't want to do a DQ because he's a mark also.He had read on the internet, oh, disqualifications are cheap.You know what the alternative would have been?Don't book the fucking match.
01:44:23That would have been an option.But the tournament.So we talked for a while and agreed on a finish where the disqualification wouldtake place somehow, even though nobody cheated because the heels came out and intervened.And it still got Hernandez fucking advanced or whatever, but nobody had to get beator take advantage of anybody in the baby face side and nobody got laid out with a baseball bat.So then I get to the taping and I see the format.They put it back.
01:45:04and so in the production meetingI had to go and litigatethis whole thing over againwhat the fuck are we doingthis they will all end up looking like shitwith their dicks in their handsif they try to do this all this interferenceand this and that with these multiple people
01:45:20and you thinkand you're making Hernandez look like a prickand an idiot because he can't beat the guy anywayand blah blah blahand let's put it backso they put it backand there were a lot of peoplestill in the room going,
01:45:36oh, we don't want to do a DQbecause this was the newer generationof the indie crowd from the 90swho had also learned,oh, you can't do disqualifications?Don't book the fucking match.So anyway, this is that set of tapings.But we start out.
01:45:56We show 449,Rino versus Sting.Both these guys were no problem whatsoever, very helpful in cooperative setting this up.And I thought their match was good and the finish was Sting over and then Rhino's two gores to crack his ribs.Told the story perfectly.Both executed it well.I didn't have Sting used the blood capsule to bleed from the mouth after the gores because of the high rate of those things looking kabukiish.And the guys as well agreed if he was bleeding from the mouth from cracked ribs.
01:46:32he might need to go to the hospital.Because that was, again,this is what Russo would just write bullet pointson the fucking format, match.Rhino, Gore, Sting twice, bleeds from mouth.And they both looked at me like,because Sting was even looking at me,like, I'm coming back again to wrestle.
01:46:55And Rino's like, you know,he didn't want to say it,but he's like, if I gore to motherfucker,twice he's bleeding from the mouth,I think he needs surgery, you know, so we don't want to goddamn fuck it up at that point.So anyway, keeping it simple, Sting, sold, be gores well, and it looked more real to the fans.We also asked for AJ not to have to do the save since it would involve Rano just leaving the ring with no contact,and AJ had two matches later in the show, plus a big run-in in the show closing brawl so the fans wouldn't get tired of him.
01:47:29Rino left with the heat.Good job by everybody.And again, this is, you know, an hour later, after Sting, the icon has taken these vicious gores,he's got to come back and wrestle this 300-pound beast who's a baby face.And how do you have a match without taking advantage of his broken ribs?What do you do to him?You know, either that or it's, it looks like Hernandez is, oh, this fucking guy, his ribs are, you know, so anyway.But first, Hernandez has to get there, right?
01:48:02he's got to advance.I'm sorry,did you have any comments on?No, this is fascinating.This is absolutely fascinating.Keep going.Okay, so Homicide versus Hernandez.Obviously, I had high hopes for this match.
01:48:17Both guys were anxious to get with meand work stuff out, no problems at all.I gave him the framework of a matchand had them put their moves to it.I also requested specific things Hernandez door not do to remain supermex.Homicide worked hard to shine him and the first part of the match was good,but it slowed down with homicide got the heat on Sean's leg.
01:48:40I wanted him to stay all over the leg like a rabid Nelson Royal,and he was methodical like a tiny Don Jardine.This combined with Hernandez just not being able yet to sell without dyingand losing his aura meant that the match didn't have the passion I'd hoped for.Again, that's what, you know, the big guy bounces the little,heel around like a super ball.But then the little heelhas to be a pit bull. He has to be
01:49:08aggressive. We went afterthe leg, keep chop blocking, tearing,ripping, kicking.Hernandez had to keep trying to stand up,pull himself up on the ropes, and get his basetaken out, not just lay there in a leg bar,right? And that's the, you know,that's the fine point that they
01:49:28needed work on.anyway um the finish was fine the story got told well as i said in the meeting the reason i suggested homicide finally accept the handshakebut it looked so bummed about it was to not telegraph quite so much the following night's turnuh any mistakes these guys made were from inexperience and doing these types of angles and not any lack of efforti explained to both the next day especially sean in more detail and they understood when you get a chanceplease email me, open dates on Sean in October.Well, this is, the dates of the tapings are August 31st and September 1st.So dates on Sean in October so I can see about availability of myself in the arena
01:50:11to give him the clinic.And I think he may have been, they may have booked him to Mexico already at that pointin time.He may have had something going on.But anyway, so now these two guys have to wrestle each other, right?Because they've won their tournament match.And here we go.Hernandez versus Sting.
01:50:32I know that there was a lot of discussion back and forth on what to do in this match,and to be fair to everyone, there was no way this match at this time could have been a positive thing,no matter how it was done.We just had to get Sting advanced in the tournament.I'm sorry, Sting was going to get advanced.I had it the other way around.Vince and I talked on his original.finish because so many finishes happen. Vince and I talked on his original finish and I thought
01:51:02what we had was a good way to get out of it, but what I got to TV and saw the revised one,with all due respect to anyone who contributed to that when the reason why I argued so stronglyagainst it was because there was just no way those two guys on that night under those conditionswith that amount of interference in that amount of time could possibly have performed it.we kept the original premise of stingwith cracked ribs facing Hernandezto see who gets a title match.Hernandez didn't want to fight a guy with an injury,
01:51:33but he had to in order to advance.Just a few minutes into the match,Eric Young, disguised his homicide,came out and attacked Stingin order to show Hernandez he was on his side,but the referee caught him and disqualified Hernandez.After the DQ security accidentally revealedit was Eric Young who had cost Supermex his title shot.
01:51:58With that being the simple version,I thought the guys did a good job getting out of an awkward situation.Nobody hurt their image.Security and Eric were right there where they needed to beand everybody performed this well to get story over exceptwhoever was the costume person that dressed Eric Young up as homicide sunk the ship.He didn't even have a cap on that big melon headand his bare arms when no tattoos were showing
01:52:24to the point where liveTaz couldn't even call him homicide as it was obviousbut then there's morethere's more to go onanyway we went to break with the revealand came back with Hernandez in the ringhe did all right calling Eric Young back outand we had it set up for world elite
01:52:45to attack Sean and himto make a comeback on allexcept Eric Young before they stopped himI didn't like the way the heels fed him.Doug and Brutus took one bump each and rolled away before Bashir and Kiyoshi were there.Again, they're all over the country, all over the world here, these countries.It left Sean wandering a bit looking for someone to hit.The heels got okay heat.
01:53:11Then the run-ins and brawl with AJ Beer Money 3D Booker and Steiner started and was wild and exciting.So again, it's just like it was 18 people.I know, I know.You couldn't.The next day I got with Hernandez and World Eliteand explained to them that they didn't have the luxury of one of themgetting the other one over.Both their pushes are new,
01:53:36so they have to get each other over.They have to make Sean look like King Kongand then pick his bones when they get their heat.They understood, and in that day's TV, next report,they were perfect.But anyway, this was just,again does this sound familiar16 people have to run in
01:53:58people have to be disguisedcoming over the railand and I'm takinga shit thatbelieve that was the simple versionthat was the like here can we do it this way so that peoplewill understand it versionwould you like some thoughts on random matches
01:54:22oh yeahrandom thoughts on other matchesSabin versus AJ Stiles was very good.Christy Hemmys forte in this business is not wrestling.Doug Williams versus AJ was good.Our biggest problem on this night was from a production standpoint.We had delays in between many of the segments.In one case, we had to hold the truck in the live event to shoot a location promo offline,
01:54:49but in real time backstage.As a result, the audio had bleed over, bleed over of people.Pins are promoing the crowd because there was no communication between the truck and offline crew.Keith and David are working to make sure these segments are done differently from now on,but they still cause a delay for the crowd.I think we should only do them when absolutely necessary.We ended up doing a two-hour show and half of another in three hours, 45 minutes,more than real time with no commercials and not rolling in the pre-tapes.
01:55:22the crowd was tired we lost a lot because even thoughindividual matches and segments were good no rhythm was establisheddip shitwould stop the goddamn live eventwhile we had it going out in the building in front of the peoplebecause one of his backstage promosit'll have more impact if it's shot live broit needs to be live because they've done some other things
01:55:50It's got to be, so he would hold the goddamn live event up to shoot a fucking location promooffline somewhere in the back, but in real time because it would make it fit better that way.Anyway, random thoughts.Random thoughts, random matches.Then I've got one more TV taping before I'm done.Would you like to hear that?Yeah, one more.This is good.
01:56:24Okay, there was an in-ring interview with the world elite and Hernandez and homicide,where homicide was finally going to turn on Hernandez, full-fledged apparently.And I wrote, as we discussed in the meeting, I laid this out to be as big a shock as possible when homicide turned.We had to first not tip off that homicide was in on the plan, have Hernandez hit and be supermex,surprise them with the turn.then get a heavy heat on Hernandezand have homicide welcomed into the family by Eric Young.So again, now,
01:57:03homicides from fucking,actually, I think Brooklyn,but he's Puerto Rican,so he's going into the world elite groupwith the Japanese guy,the Canadian guy,the British people,the fucking,
01:57:17where else was the other fellows from?Eurasia.Eurasia.Yeah.So anyway, Eric Young did okay with calling Hernandez out or else homicide would suffer.So apparently, oh, they had kidnapped homicide and they had him down and they said,Hernandez, get out here.But he didn't exactly rouse up a lot of fear or suspense.
01:57:43Old Eric, Young.Hernandez hit strong doing the spot I gave him where he chucked Doug and Brutus and Roband Kiyosha and Bashir from the ring in seconds.And they all fed him great.Eric was right there with the chair for him to snatch and then bailed.We can't let the baby faces get to Eric Young or his heat will be gone.He's not a guy they want to see beaten up all the time that badly.Homicide was right on target with the stiff chair from behind.
01:58:13Then all the heels got a shot and it was better though not yet classic heat.I thought the touch of homicide bearing Sean in the LAX flag was nice heat.we didn't play any music in the truckso we could hear fans mad and yellingand homicide played off of it and got some heatand good camera shots. Sohadi was very happy.All these guys did a good job. They listened and were verydiligent in all their segments.
01:58:41So now, you know, we were setting up againHernandez in this battle with theseinternational menacesincluding homicide.Random thought.got random thoughts and then I've got more match, but we'll get to that in a second thing,I guess. Random thoughts. Oh, Devon versus Rude versus Williams versus Steiner. This never gotgoing for me. It was supposed to be a tag team gauntlet match. There was an idea to change it to a four
01:59:11corners match, et cetera. The match had already started before we came on the air because the teams wereabout to get into it. And they did a pretty good job with the partners in the ring getting worked onto set up their partner's tag on his entrance.Yeah, this was this.They've got, the teams aren't out there.They're like a guy's wrestling and he might be in trouble,but suddenly music plays and his partner comes out.And you can see how this was going.
01:59:42And then I said, James Storm, the last entrance,came out on stage as his partner was in the ring selling.He was wearing a football helmet with two beer cansand slapping two noise sticks together.I got hot and he came to the truck laterand I told him why.I said he's better than that.Then they have to always be silly or funny or wacky.
02:00:04The fans may like it,but when it's constant or over the topor uncalled for in a situation like that,yeah, your partner's fucking in trouble,but you're going to ride a customized beer cooler to the ring.I told him the fans want a cool beer moneylike a Tully and Arne-type wrestling heel teamwith personality,
02:00:26opposite personalities that are, you know,the odd balls, the odd ducks, partners that can wrestle.I believe Storm and especially rudeor main event players in T&A,I'd like see Storm work on being serious.And he had, finally, when they let him do some shit,he had a plitty good, a pretty good run, as I recall.down there.
02:00:52What is he doing these days?Where is James Storm?You don't hear from, I mean,I'm not advocating for everybodyto wrestle into their fucking 50s.I can't remember how old he is,but this was 15 years agowhen he was 30, had to be.
02:01:07Where's his old partner?What was it? Chris Harris?Was that it?Oh, my God.America's Most Unwanted.Poor fella.He just,he pooped to bed.
02:01:20Who poop to bed?Okay, here's a match.Kurt Angle and Samoa Joewith Matt Morgan against AJStiles and Christopher Danielswith Sting.Wow.I don't even remember
02:01:33while those people are friendlywith each other.All six of these guys are alwayseasy to work with and no exception here.I had a private talk with Joe to pep him upstemming from our agent meeting last TVs.I told him he can't lose focuswhether in singles tags.
02:01:49part of a group heel or baby facejust be the badass explosiveSamoa Joe regardless of the situationand he'll get over.He certainly worked very hard hereand in his singles match with Morganand this was when, remember,he'd been kidnapped and thrown in the trunk of a car.
02:02:07We forgot to mention that one last week.They had him a goofy fake tattoo on his face.He was wearing pants.He had been a heel or baby faceI know what the fuck is going on.And he just got, again, he had a different way than Booker T.He was just, ah, fuck it.He just was, you know, sullen about it and depressed and needed to pick his fireback up.
02:02:35Anyway, this was a real good tag match.They did the finish with Morgan's quote unquote miscue,just as laid out in both Morgan's facials and his elevator on angle did wonders for him in the store.and then the following show was show number 451,Bashir and Kiyoshi versus Hernandez.That dreaded Middle Eastern Japanese alliance against Mexico.Okay, I explained to the heels that they had to make Hernandez look unbeatable for this angle,and they both did it cheerfully.
02:03:14Even though they had never done a couple of the strongman spots I asked for,explained them and they did great. I tried an experiment for Hernandez selling. After manhandlingboth heels, I had him get rid of Kiyoshi and Bashir stop him. I told Bashir to light him up withchops, punches, and broad arms for 45 seconds and told Sean to sell around the ropes to the rightin a circle. Selling but staying on his feet, he does better, but he still forgets to swing back. That's aRip Rogers drill.Because Rip in wrestling class would say, you know, a lot of guys say, well,I got a TV match, but they only let me get a minute of heat.
02:03:57You can't get any heat in a minute.And he would have guys take a stopwatch and click it.And he would take a guy in the ring and get heat on him for 60 seconds, one minute.And in that minute of time, he would take that guy and chop him and broadarm himand rake his back and thumb his eyes and run his head in the turnbuckle and boot him in the gutso many times that in the end of 60 seconds the guy's chest and his back could be black and bluethey said, did I get enough heat?He beat that fucking shit out of that guy in 60 fucking seconds.
02:04:34And I said, but at the same time, the guy sells to the right.Chop, boom, he spins to the right and he grabs the top rope and he's caving,holding his chest in. That's when you fucking broad armic across the back. Oh, my God, he bows hisback out with the pain. You boot him in the gut. Oh, he bends over and grabs his gut. You grab hishair and ram his head in a turnbuckle. He's pretty, and he's still going to the right around thering. And you'll do, in the 60 seconds, you'll waltz that some bitch around all four sides of thering and beat him like he owes you trance. And that's what we were trying to get accomplished there.I said, and Hernandez is supposed to be swinging back or pawing back or trying to throw a blow,
02:05:20but the quicker the smaller guy ducks at her stays underneath, whatever.And I said he forgets to swing back.Also, no one will mistake Bashir for Gene Kineski.I mean, you know, I had to put that in.Anyway, Hernandez made a good comeback and beat him.Then Homicide and Eric Young appeared and they got good heat on Sean after he just got his hands on homicide for a second.the driving the spike in the throat with the chair and briefcase looked good andSean sold it well okay again I don't know if I would have come up with that spot so I have
02:05:56a feeling that's one of the bullet points that was written in the format have them take thebriefcase and drive a spike into his throat uh Sean sold it well the Alka-Seltzer justblew up into foam from his dry mouse so it didn't workAnd then there's a six-man tag.I wrote nothing.And then the last match, Samoa Joe versus Matt Morgan.These guys worked very hard.It will be smoother when they've had experience with each other.
02:06:31When Kurt came over the desk on Matt, it really kicked it up a notch.Daniels and Joe added a lot with their schmaws, and we went to break hot.On the other side, Kurt and Matt and I had worked out three spots,Matt breaking loose and hurling a security guy.guard, Kurt breaking loose and diving over some guards, and then Kurt putting Matt through thetable. They did all three perfectly, and we got great shots. Keith and David enjoyed it in thetruck. The only other thing I'd like to mention is that I think Bashir is underutilized in theworld elite group, whereas I said, Eric is the kind of guy people don't want to see get beaten up
02:07:07all the time. Bashir is if Bashir speaks more and his promos do get heat.then Eric can still be the leader,but make Bashir his general or whatever.Then Eric doesn't have to carry the whole thing.The group gets more heat.And Eric stays the guy in the suitthat no one gets his hands onto put in his place until the blow off.
02:07:30And, you know, again,now, see what he's reading these things going,oh, fuck.I'm telling him how to make his shit betterbecause it's all over the pageand he's using the wrong people.Or I'm telling them,well, we shouldn't have had this man.
02:07:45now. But, you know, we shouldn't have this match now. They said, be honest, so I'mbeing honest, and we're trying to work with what we got. But that's the last thing that Mr.Rousseau wanted to hear was any goddamn coherent criticism with obvious logic thrown inof the goofy shit that he was doing on TV. So next week on the continuinginstallments, we'll get to the letter that I wrote to Terry Taylor after I gotfire. Oh, we're there already.That was my last taping.Enough of that. Enough of that. We can't
02:08:25have any more of that shit.Well, it was indeed a hardnight's work there at T&A at the Impact Zone, Brian.And, you know, every time I'd get out of there, I'd justthink if I could only just get back to the hotel andlay down in that bed and crank that air conditioning up.But you know what the problem was?When I did that, Brian, the hotel did not feature the line of mattresses from our friends over at helixleep.com.
02:08:56That was the problem.So even though I would have laid down on a bit of rusty razor blades if I had to,and actually some nights it felt like I was, but that's what would have made the whole experience worthwhile,Brian, is if I could have just dove into a cloud, dove into a box of fluffy ducks,dove into aa fucking hummingbird's asswhat other things are softhow soft is a hummingbird's ass
02:09:23if I could have only have never heard that beforeyeah right in there boomit's got a it's got aa relaxable sphincterif I could have just dove into all any of those thingscourtesy of a helic sleep mattressthat would have been Shangri-La
02:09:38but you can do it Brian you and the peopleout there the cult of cornetyou don't have to go to a hotel and sleepon a bag of rusty razor blades, you,into privacy of your own home, the privacy,you can order a helic sleep mattress,customized just for you,for your likes and preferences,
02:09:58staying away from your dislikes and your grievances,and you can get it delivered to your homeand you can put it on your bedand you can dive into the wings of the angels.Because that's why, if you've got sleep apnea,Well, if you've got sleep apnea, they will apply themselves toward making that apnea go away.What is the opposite of apnea?Who is they?
02:10:23What are you talking about?The people at Helix, they got mattresses.They will apply themselves to making your apnea go away.Let's not make that guarantee because I don't even know what it means.Well, I'm saying, what is the reverse of apnea?Non-apnea?They'll make you have non-apnea with their, they got mattresses.They won't do it.
02:10:42do it. Well, they won't make you, they'll ask younicely. They won't do a thingwhen it comes to this topic.Sometimes they'll recommend stronglybecause that's what you do.You go to helixleep.com,H-E-L-I-X, sleepif the people don't know it by now.
02:10:59And you tellthe people there, the fine peoplethere, how you like to sleepon your back, on your side, are you hotwhen you sleep, or are you cold when you sleep?Do you wake up screamingand dialing ninefor no apparent reason, otherwise
02:11:14and there were voices in your head.You thought you saw somebody in the room?And then they'll send you a mattressthat's designed to correctsome of these many issues that I just mentioned.Don't know if I want to use the term correct,but they have mattresses customized for you.They will ameliorate.
02:11:31They will ameliorate then the problem.If you sleep and you sweat when you sleep,they got a mattress that makes you feel cooler.Now, certainly that means that they will help the problem.I'm not trying to just go over my head or anything here.Now, if you have for some reason a large bowel obstruction,you put that down on the quiz,I don't know if they have anything that'll help it,
02:11:57but make sure you put it down,they'll want to know.Not one of the inquiries on the quiz.Because that way, if you try to use the guarantee,well, if you try to use the guarantee and, you know,well, the guarantee works.If you've got a bowel instruction,they might need to know if you've had an obstruction.
02:12:12The bowel on there.Oh, obstruction.Yes.Obstruction.I thought you said it.They might need to know if...Boul instruction.No, everybody knows how to work their bowels.
02:12:20That comes, you know, you're kind of wired factory setting for that.Let's get away.They kind of do their own thing, usually.Let's get away from the bowels.Let's get away from the bowery.Let's go to the Waldorf, the Waldorf of mattresses.And of course, we're talking about a great mattress.You tell them what you like.
02:12:36They will give you the mattress just for you.Well, they won't give it to you.You got to buy it.Well, you got to buy them.and we have them here in the house.You have them over there, Jim.Yes.Big fans of the Helix.
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02:13:02I don't even know how they're doing this.They must be,they must be laundering some money or something.But right now, Helix.No, they aren't.let alone they must be.They are certainly not.Let's say that.
02:13:17They certainly launder their mattresses.Now, you can't deny that.They'll send you, it smells clean when it comes in.Helix Sleep.I'm trying to say the words,helixsleep.com slash JCE is the 4th of July sale.It's how you get the 27% off sitewide.Helixleep.com slash J.
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02:14:1727% off.There's never been anything like it.A great time to try Helix sleep.What's that promo code?That promo code is JCE.I guess those little loops on the side of the mattressare for when you want to hang it on the ceiling.No loops.
02:14:33We guarantee no loops,and they will not be adding loops.And again, I don't know, this is the end.I don't know why you go here at the end.But Jim,let's also end with the link that people could use.Helix.com slash JCE 27% off.Hurry.
02:14:53Fourth of July, it's coming, it's going.You hear that music playing.You know what that means.Yes.There's nothing we can do about that.I've tried many times.Oh, boy, howdy.I got to tell you, the AEW program the other night,
02:15:10As I said earlier, they ought to give you study notes, maybe a PowerPoint presentation,some pie charts would good.We were talking earlier in the program about the TNA agent reports and how Mark Bookers book things.Marks, like Rousseau, the previous generation marks, and like Tony, they see all these momentsin their head and these, wow, this would be great.these will attack each other in the back and they'll fight and they'll break furniture and thiswill happen and they just can't not only restrain themselves from doing it so constantlythat it becomes meaningless or figure out the right people to do it with or in many cases
02:16:01lay it out so that if it had a chance of being good if it was done properly, they leave all theloopholes because they don't have any experience with actually making shit makes sense.So some things never change.We were the same, except TNA in 2009 was doing three times the viewership of what they've gotright now.But Tony Kahn is the kind of guy that would book the two top baby faces to have a 50-year-oldguy with broken ribs, roll up the 300-pound beast.trying to get over.
02:16:39I know I said it the other way around before,but,and also a roll up with broken ribs,Brian,I just thought of that.Is that the finish you'd want to useif your ribs were broken?Let me just roll this 300 pound guy up.
02:16:51I may avoid that one.Right over the top of me.Yeah,I may avoid that one.But anyway,we were in Seattle for thecome back to reality editionof AEW dynamite.
02:17:02They weren't,they weren't in Mexico anymore,and they weren't in Kansas anymore either.they were back to reality.I think they had,would they have 1,800 people in Seattle, bless them.It may have been a little more than that, I think,but in that range.
02:17:19That's what Uncle Dave said.Oh, did he?Oh, I thought it was like-I think that's what Uncle Dave said.So maybe we ought to take that one with a grain of salt.Well, we'll find that when we do the ratings.We'll see what the numbers are in.I thought it was a little higher, but I could be completely wrong.
02:17:31That counted the people also work in a concession stand.But again, this whole show.just people doing things.They're doing the walk-ins, because now sinceW.W.E. has their stars walk-in the building oncamera, they do the walk-ins also.But apparently we are to believe it, Tony Storm,just at least the walk-ins in the
02:17:53WWE many times are, you know,you can tell it's earlier that day they came in the building,and then they'll have somebody walk all the way through and go out.But it's just Tony Storm,here she comes and Mercedes-Monecomes in from the blind side and just jumps on herand shovedbecause Tony Storm has Luther,
02:18:15the butler with her,with her.And Mercedes shoves Luther downand he takes like a pratfall and he's never seen again.Did she give him the fuckingvibrating palm strikethat the fucking Kung Fu Masters gave Bruce Leeto, you know, get even for him
02:18:36revealing the secrets.How does this grown adult280 pound humanwaterbed of a manbe fucking wiped outforever by the girl shoving him down?And then they fight into the arenaand they have a fake fight on the stage forever.
02:18:59Forever.And then finally,six male refereesrun out on the stageand ourMercedes has the hold on Tony Stormand is crank it on herand they're screaming,
02:19:15please stop,please stop.There's six men there.It's a 125 pound girl,pull her off.But are they determined nowto Tony Storm is the only onethey've got that's really over over.
02:19:31Are they determined to justmake her look like an idiot too?And she got saved by Mina Melons.and Mercedes was so scared she backed up 20 feetgrabbed the microphone andit made a little statement to himand Mina was just squatting there next to Tonyoh you heard her
02:19:54why can't they close up any of the loopholesand any of the logicI thought Mercedes had her own writerWill Wheatonshouldn't he bestaying up onit was Will Washington and he wasn't her writerhe was swerves writer
02:20:13I thought she got her own writers tooPepper DayI'm sorryshe has a writerbut I got the wrong writerit's Alexander Pepper Daythat's her writershouldn't Pepper Day
02:20:25be fucking staying upthinking about wayswe can close the loopholesand all this fucking goofy logicwell I don't knowhere's a loopholelet me ask you about a loopholethat may or may not close
02:20:36if the rumors are truethat Tony Kahn sees the valueand not bringing Chris Jericho backdoes Luther come back?Oh, good Lord.I forgot Luther's not one of theLollipop Guild. He was one of theCanadian contingent, right?
02:20:54That's right, the Canadian friends.Well, in that case,I don't, but you know, at the same time,Tony might think he'll be offended.Jesus Christ.So then,again, I talked about powerPoint presentation, notes, help me explain some of these things.
02:21:15The Bucceroos show up on camera, the Harley Boys, Maddie and Nikki,and they use their EVP power to move Osprey and swerves match up to right nowfrom later on in the show so that they have to come out all unprepared and stilltying their shoes and blah.Have we ever established how, why are they allowed to do these things?the EVPs.Tony is right there.Yeah.
02:21:45He can overrule whatever.He later on in the program,within 10 seconds of two guys have an interaction,he's booked the match for next week.So why doesn't he just come out and say,no,you guys are being pricks and it's my companyand that's not right.
02:22:03So don't do that.Have we ever gotten a reasonwhy that cannot take place?No, they beat them up.and then no one really caredso that kind of went awaythe bucks weren't getting overas the right kind of heels
02:22:17it was the we don't want to watch this heelsnot the oh my god they're heelsI can't wait to see someone beat them upperson beat them up and it wasn't filmedit was in the backit was fucking see him punkbut uhyou know they've established at Tony Zechirilla
02:22:31they've established just recentlywith MJF and SheltonTony was back therelike a ventriloquist dummyjust all of his motionsSo they've established that.How could they say these things?And what could they do to make it happen?
02:22:45And why doesn't Tony overrule it?They haven't even come out and produced a contractthat Tony was stupid enough to sign in 2021that gave them the ability to do this and that and the other thing.They just, it's inexplicable.So anyway, here comes Osprey and swerveto come out for their match early,and it's against Blake Christian and Lee Johnson.
02:23:08and I know you're never going to believe this, Brian,but they had a competitive match.The two top baby faces had all they could handlefrom these two guys that have never had a television win.And the Buccarus came to ringside for a break,they went through a break with this,but they come to ringside to fucking watch, right?So then finally Swerve makes a comeback.
02:23:41He hit the heels in some fashion,whether a strike or a kick or whatever the fuck,nine times before either one of them fell down.And when they did fall down,it was he shoved the guy out of the cornerso he could run and kick at him again.And then he won with a kick to the head.And then Swerve and Osprey tried to go after the Hardley Boys,
02:24:07But security was right there and held them back and got in between so there could be no violence.And so then they had to challenge them to a tag match at all in.And Osprey had his garbage disposal voice cranked up to high on this one.But now Osprey and swerve at their big stadium show and pay-per-view are tied up in a match that won't contribute a single dime to the take.and they're putting the EVP titles on the line, I think, because of Osprey's voice,but the announcer has backed it up.But what does that mean if the baby faces win, they're the EVPs,or if they beat the bucks, the bucks can't be EVPs anymore?
02:24:57Is this a way to finish off the whole goofy thing because of the reasons we just said?It's never made any sense.Does that how you can get an executive position?I challenge Tony Kahn to a fight.yeah well yeah i'll i'll take that one i'll fight tony god to run the company i'll take that one and even atmy age um but and by the way here's something it's going to be a thing we'll talk aboutthe security was right there they've shot themselves in the foot in another way on thisprogram because indiscriminately there is no rhyme or
02:25:37reason to whether security and referees come instantly on the slightest hint of a violentaltercation or a guy can be goddamn ravaged and have his intestines pulled out throughhis sphincter by a fish hook for 10 minutes and nobody comes out.And there's no rhyme or reason or logic to why either one happens.they've established it's because each person or entity is coming up with their own anglesand laying their own shit out and there's no supervising producer as I was attemptingto be in those agent reports that we've read or anybody thinking about the show overalland you've got to establish a baseline with here is how we respond to incidents
02:26:38like this.And it's got to be somewhere about, oh my God, we were caught unawares.It took us a few seconds to scramble out there, whatever.But there's ways you can set it up and you can still get your point across,but you just can't take five minutes to do all this goofy shit that by the timewhen you're trying to get a heat in an angle and it takes five fucking minutes andnobody's trying to stop it and the baby face is just laying there,you ain't going to get any son of a bitch
02:27:09violent enough to come over the railin that situation.The heat does, it's not urgent heat.That's what they're doing stage playsinstead of angles.And they could stagger their run-inswhile I'm talking about it also with the securitywhere you don't, that 12 guys are not just standing by.
02:27:32Yeah, really.You know, first a two or three refereehe's come. Holy shit, what's going on?And maybe the bells ringing, ding, ding, ding, ding.And then a couple of T-shirtsecurity guys are coming down. Oh, my gosh,we've got to stop this. Hey, Joe and Fred,two more come down. Then
02:27:47maybe a couple of the fucking job guyswith no shirt on. So people in the cheap seatscan tell their wrestlers.And they come down there and get leveled or whatever.But it's a gradual thing where you're buildingthe scene and you're buildingthe urgency rather thanhere they all are. They can't do anything over and
02:28:05over. There's fresh hope coming in. Things like that. Anyway, so what is the Oblada or is friends withTrent and Rocky and they all have some kind of past apparently in Japan with the buckaroos.and at one point Oblada was in the Lollipop Guild,but now he's in the Callas family right now.That's right.But Trent and Rocky are in a group in Japan with him.Chaos.The Bucceroos suspended swerve and Osprey
02:28:50because they attacked the EVPs.Well, then Oblada came in and introduced themto his friends Trent and Rocky,but we know them well, we've got a past.What is their past?Were they all rent boys togetherin the Red Light District of Osaka?What was going on?
02:29:09I don't know what they did,but obviously they all have a New Japan past.Well, they were calling IbushiKenny's golden lover.And I know that was the,folks, for those of you who live in the normal,world. The name of the tag team that Kenny Olivier and his friend Coda Obushi or Ibuci,the name of their tag team was the golden lovers. Not to Bedoude Express, the road warriors,
02:29:43the powers of pain, the brain busters, the golden lovers. But this is American television.10 years later,they've seen Ibushi like three timesbefore he crippled himself and's been off for two years.Isn't it off-putting to any normal personwho would try to watch this programwhen they're talking about Ibushibeing the golden lover of another one of the baby faces?
02:30:19Yeah, I don't think it resonates.I don't think Abushi resonates,but I don't think it resonates.well it bushy was about to resonatebecause this was his big returnagainst Trentand I mean he doesn't lookas pudgy as he did the last time we saw him
02:30:41remember we remarked on the pudgebut he still is he five foot fourI don't know if I would bet on him against the outlawJapanese girls no he's not that shorthe's not that shorthe looked like the you know ifIf the Beatles had come from Nagasaki, he looks like the Pete Best of the group.Well, again, now, you always say that, but you forget Pete Best never had a mop top.
02:31:04That's why he really didn't fit in the same way that Ringo did.But, you know, he comes out there.He's got his mop top.He looks like he's in better shape than the last time we saw him, both in America when he was pudgyand in Japan where he broke his feet.And he just has no, how do I, I don't even, it's not even charisma, no reaction, noNo pulse.Personality.
02:31:26Yeah, it's just like a guy in a coma walking out.He has like the reactions of like a wrestling character in a video game 25 years ago.Like they didn't have the graphics yet to give them good react.He just walks out there and he gets in there.And again, I mean, the kicks looked okay.But everything about this was just, you know, eh?You know, I don't think if Bushi resonates in American, I don't think he will.And that's the thing is after he goes eight minutes or whatever with Trent.
02:31:55And by the way, if take a shit ain't getting paid what Ibushi is, if I was him, I'd be pissed.Because again, this gay did little of whatever.But eight minutes, he wins with a knee lift, and then Oblada comes out, and they stared at each other.They stared at each.And all 1,800 people in Seattle are going, holy shit, holy shit.Holy shit, for what reason?Big shit.Big shit.
02:32:24O'Kada hasn't had a good match yetand it probably ain't going to tryand this little short squatblack hole of charismathat he's nose to nose withwhat do they think they're going to seebecause they ain't going to see itand then
02:32:47Okada walks out and Tony sends the wordwithin 10 seconds next weekOkada versus IbushiGee, what in the world is that going to look like?One guy...A 598,000 viewers.But one guy can't, won't fall down,and the other guy probably shouldn't really hurt himself again.
02:33:13What do they think they're going to seethat's a holy shit moment from these two?That makes me want to see it,but the problem is it'll probably be a big ball of nothing.I don't remember where they are.It depends on the crowd, too.But yeah, Abushi has this blah matchAnd then they stare at each other right in each other's faces
02:33:32And no one does anythingBecause Abushi's defending the honor of KennyWho was previously hurtYou know what this really isIf you think about everything right now happening with the bucksWho are pushed despiteHow little they mean to the business of AEWOmega
02:33:50Who's in the middle of a push right nowand doing this thing with Okada, his long-time opponent from 10 years ago.Adam Page getting his run.Ibushi's showing back up for the stadium.It's the last hurrah of that gang.You know what I mean?You're like...You know, in terms of age, in terms of everything,
02:34:12it's the last hurrah of that like little click of weirdos.And I think we're going to have to sit through it for a little while.Well, speaking of a click of weirdos, the next match was ricochet and AR Fox against Kevin Knight and Hong Kong Fooey, who are now going by the tag team name Jet Speed.Because Hong Kong Fooey is speedball and Kevin Knight was Jet Blue, whatever.Jet something.The jet, Benny and the Jets.The Jet Kevin and the Jets.Yeah, I guess that's what it is.
02:35:00So this was recess for the kids.And there's another story that R.R.C. She is trying to recruit him a group,but then he teamed up with A.R. Fox and thenwalked out on him and left him to get beat.And old spitballs still doing his thing.And so anyway, they win the match.and then my God, they let these two talk.
02:35:28Actually, Kevin Knight ain't bad.He's got more oomph, but old Hong Kong,Jesus, what a nerd.I mean, I'm just sorry, it's just, what a fucking nerd.And you just want to slap him, that voice and that face.And he's doing a promo on the tag team.They still want a tag team title match.with the Hurt Syndicate.
02:35:56Explain to me how it shouldn't be against any criminal statute in the countryfor either Bobby Lashley or Shelton Benjamin to fight this little squidget.So.In a stadium.In a stadium.And in the Hurt business or Hurt syndicate attacks them and beats up the kids in theentrance and set up a table.And they put Kevin Knight on the table and Lashley choked Hong Kong fuy.
02:36:25choke slammed him through Kevin Knight on the table.And then MVP cut to promo on the baby faces while they were laying there.It wasn't as bad as Sina and Punk because it didn't last 10 minutes.And these are preliminary cannon fodder guys.But then when they go to the ring and cut to promo, MVP apparently agreed to give themthe tag team title match if they can stand up.and I assume they stood up because they were gone by the next segment.So what the fuck?
02:37:02Seriously, they've got a tag team that's over that gets a reaction.Looks like a million dollars.Looks like grown adult athletes.And the only thing they can program them with is children that are so green,they can't even take advantage of all the spots that Lashley and Benjamin are trying to give them.and MVP's out there begging somebody.Does somebody stand up, a tag team?My God, they may have to call T&A or something.
02:37:35I don't know if that's going to work right now, but.I mean, some other company.That's the problem.What companies can Tony call?CMLL and New Japan.Jesus Christ.So then MJF did a promo and the fans booed the shit out of him.But next week, he's going to be,
02:37:53in a qualifying matchwhere the winner goes into themen's casino gauntlet matchat all in, where the winner ofthat gets a guaranteed title shot.MJF,another of their money ballplayers, if they have any,
02:38:11is in a meaninglesscasino bullshit matchon pay-per-viewbecause they can't,they're so creativelybereft at this point,that they can't set up money matchesfor their tag team champions.
02:38:27They can't set up money matches for MJF.They can't set up,they can't set up money matches.All they can do set up dream matchesthat the same people that like this kind of thingby every month there is no growthand they're running out of the dream matches.And then Mark Briscoe's music interrupted.
02:38:52And he actually came out and said,well, you're going long.I need to get in the ring for my match.And then he and MJF start going back and forth.And MJF calls him a blue collar bitch.And Briscoe emphasized empathized with MJF,the fans actually chanted empathybecause he feels insufficient with his little kosher pickle.
02:39:17And then the fans chant kosher pickle.This is a Saturday night live sketch.I think Mark Briscoe's great.I think MJF's great.But they come out, it went too long.They're being funny.The fans then amused themselvesby chanting about MJF's small penis.
02:39:39And then MVP says,let's just go watch Briscoe do what he does best,which is lose.So for the first time in history,Briscoe wins.He won a four.four-way, Brian.This is all interconnected.
02:40:01It's all the same thing going on.He won a four-way match versus Bandito, Roderick Strong, and Take a shit for the number one spot in the casino gauntlet match.Which seems to me like that would be punishment to get the number one spot because then you got to fight all the other guys.But who says this is supposed to fucking be a lot?any in any way explicable.So what started at the first of that?Who was out first?Was it the, it was the baby faces?
02:40:37Yeah, it depends on what you consider the start of that.The baby face underneath baby face team had a match which they won and then they got theshit kicked out of by the people that they're wrestling on the pay-per-view who did apromo who then were interrupted by the guy that was in the next match.And then that guy had a match and won the chance to be in another match.Any thoughts?Very much like Mr. Show with the transitions from one thing right to another.You got to appreciate that.
02:41:14I hear what you're saying.MJF's a proven draw for them.Also, he's had great matches on big shows.Why isn't he in a high-profile match?if they did put them in oneand we kind of have to happen out of nowherethe Hurt Syndicate they can't put in onebecause they don't have opponents
02:41:31Well really MGAF doesn't have an opponenteither set up for himand this MGF joiningthe Hurt Syndicatehas been one of the only entertaining thingsthat have actually for a wrestling faninstead of a fucking spot monkeyon this show
02:41:48butbecause their roster of baby facesis so weak and fecklessand impotent and erectally dysfunctioned,there's nobody you want to see him fight.So I think, unfortunately, he ends up in this casino gauntlet match,whatever that is, a ladder match out of, I think that's what it is.It's something.
02:42:09You have to retrieve something.I don't remember what it.Oh, they got to grab the big poker chip.Oh, that's right.It was a poker chip.If he wins it, it creates a good dynamic going forward with him and the Hertz syndicateand him having this ability to get a title match anytime he wants,which obviously is a copy of money in the bank.
02:42:26But then which world champion would he want to wrestle for real?Moxley or fucking Page?He said to go, which one of these two jackoffs do I think I can get any kind of a match out of?And the idea they're setting up something, at least it looks like, with him and Mark Briscoe,you know, I don't want to get my hopes up, it could be promising.I mean, they've booked Mark Briscoe so poorly.and I think unfortunately they get a little bit of false security that because he's overand we have him lose every week, we could do that with everyone we bring in now.
02:42:59Just book them, they'll lose, and eventually people will like them.But yeah, I mean...The Fiosauri-Syte heat.You know, the MJF-Hurt Syndicate stuff has been the highlight of the show,and in a lot of cases the highest-rated segment of the show,in a lot of cases, I mean, the Mystical match was the highest-rated segments of that show.And it's almost like, like I said before,the Codyverse.
02:43:23It exists like in a little universeof its own within the wider universe.If MJF all of a sudden has title,title demand abilities.Yeah, he can get him as soon as he wants,if he wins that match,it kind of ties him into the bigger picture.But again, who the Hart Syndicate going to wrestle?
02:43:43That's the big question still,but we'll get there, I guess.well and then theyin course they got to dowhat the big boys do you're going to havea men's casino gauntlet matchyou're going to have a women's casinogauntlet match
02:43:58can't wait for thatand of course they had afour way to determine who was the numberone spot in that was statlanderversus Athena versus Willowversus Thunder Rosaand the highlight of that for mewas
02:44:16in full view of the refereeMarina Schaefer walks down to distractWillowand Wheeler useless pops into the ringand he and Willow start doing a running spotwhich ends with Willow giving him the pounceand he fucking flies away and then Willow beat Statlanderbut again it just looks so ridiculous
02:44:41and the overused crutchof the uncreative mind.No DQ.And let's just haveone of the guys run in and do a fucking spotin the girls match in front of the fucking refereeand then we'll do the finish later.You fucking morons.
02:45:01And then, Brian,it came timefor our main event of the evening.Is it just me?Or is it a lot of people saying it on Twitterthat good old FrankMark Mortis is getting a lot more big main event matches now that he's publicly been seengoing out and dating Mercedes Moon.
02:45:26Is there, is there nepotism going on?Is he a nepo bull?Would it be a nepo beast?I mean, why did you go right to bull?He's the beast mortals.He's wearing a bull head in me, or what head is that of an animal?I don't know for sure, but I know it's a beast.It might be a bison.
02:45:46It could be a place.Well, no, think about this.Now, what kind of animal is that that he's wearing the head of?Is it a bison?Is it a buffalo?Is it just a regular old bull?One big old humpbacked bulls down in Texas?And if so, is that the common thread that has linked these two little crazy kids and
02:46:13Star Cross lovers together?You got a bull, you got a camel.is they're made for each otherdoes he do promos have we ever heard him talkand he speak Englishor are you going to getI don't know but he you're going to getthat Charlotte Andrade thing
02:46:27where it's like you can't imagine him ever having a conversationwell but here's the thing I want to hear himgive a closing argument in Spanishbut with the bull on his headin gimmick butbecause he's a lawyerthey've established this he's a lawyerFrank
02:46:45so Frankrank the lawyer. I want him to dress up in full rigor mortis outfit here with the bullhead and everythingand then give a closing argument in Spanish. I think that would be fantastic. To answer your question,I thought about it. I hate to say I did, but I obviously did. I thought about it a couple weeks ago.I thought about their New Mexico show where he filled in for, it was like all the top heels inthe company and him. It was like Death Riders, Young Bucks, and Beast Mortos. It's like, yeah,it does seem like since he, since word came outthat he was dating Mercedes-Money
02:47:23and I can't wait to read the next issueon Mercedes-Mone's Monet magfor all that is school by this.Hey, this time she's not going to be lost in the fucking wood.She's going to be lost out in the bull pasture.Well, it definitely seems noticeable now that,yeah, this guy's getting usedin a very nice position for someone that
02:47:40is fine, I guess, for AEW mid-card.Midnight at the OasisPut your camel to bedSo hangnail Paigewrestled Frank rigor mortisIn the main eventWhich ran of course past 10 o'clockBecause they all do
02:48:01And then Paige beat him with the buckshotBut then the lights went outAnd the lights were out for a little whileI didn't time it exactly as to the number of seconds.But Brian, you can vouch for me.Tell me if I'm not depicting this correctly,but while the lights were out,the announcers were still talking.
02:48:28They were saying, folks, we're still on the air.The lights have gone out for some reason, right?You can hear the people murmuring in the arena.The audio is unmarred.It's exactly the same as it would be.just got a black screen. Is that a fair appraisal? Yeah, fair appraisal. Okay, well, then the lightscome back on and now in the middle of the ring where it's just been Paige standing there when thelights went off now, Paige is down on both knees and there are Maddie and Nikki, the Harley boys,
02:49:04holding each of his hands, ready to give him their little knee lift that they do. The problem,is, in no time during the time the lights were off, did you hear any struggle, any noise, any,who are you?Any, get down on your knees.A bump.Any, any, any, any suck it, bitch, any bump, any, any struggle or conflict of any kind,total silence from the ring.And they've established all the microphones are still on.
02:49:40You can hear the people.You can hear everything.And then when the lights come back on, he's on his knees.He's looking up at him.And he goes, oh, my God.And they look at the people to milk it.And then they draw back.And then they give him the knee lift.
02:50:00He's a foot taller than either one of these guys.All he had to do with, they're just holding his hands.All he had to do was stand up.Jerk them off balance.Hey, come here, you little pricks.No wonder they get the shit kicked out of them every time they get in a fight.None of these fuckers know how to fight.But what was that?
02:50:24He just looks up horrified like, oh, don't do this to me in 10 seconds.Yeah, that face he made was ridiculous.It was like they had guns pointed at him.But also, again, no effort to move to, to, oh my God, I can't have.imagine how painful this thing you're going to do to me in the next 14 seconds will be.How did they get him down?How did they get him down?Why did it make no noise?
02:50:53Why didn't he yell?Why didn't he yelp?Something.So, I mean, again, how did he get down?It took them a while.I know Tony loves it because ECW did it where the lights going out, but it's so lame.And all the stuff with the bucks is lame.And that wasn't even the end of it.
02:51:06It somehow got worse.Oh, yeah.Well, then the music plays.And here comes Dick the Boozer and the Boer Horseman, except for Claudio, who'sI read on the internet.Internet, he asked for time off, but he's not injured.Maybe he's just fed up.I don't know.
02:51:25But they come out and get in the ring and everybody stands there.Because Page is selling dead from this shitty double knee lift.Again, these people are hit with chairs and thrown through furniture and dive off balconiesand they're up in seconds,but this little shitty knee liftfrom these two childrenthat never connects anyway.And he's laying there dead.
02:51:51And the heels stand thereuntil Moxley brings out a logging chainand puts it around Page's neckand gets him in a stationary chokewhere he's just way,he's not throttling him or shaking him around.There's no motion.He's just twisting it.
02:52:08And again, nobody.Nobody trying to,to help as we talked about earlier.It's either feast or famine, either the security is there in a heartbeat,or they'll let people commit aggravated mayhem for 15 minutes.Well, this time we've established that there's not only a bunch of referees,but we've also established there's a bunch of security that nobody came out.Until finally, here comes Samoa Joe and Hobbs and Shepoopee.
02:52:41But they can't get in the ring because the heels are playing king of the hill and won't let them in the ring.And then finally, Osprey comes out and suddenly just him, he just dives right in.And the heels leave and everybody stands around.And everybody's mad at everybody.Nobody really remembers why.A lot of things take place.You can't process it all.There's matchups going on
02:53:18at the pay-per-view, butwe still don't even know what is going to bethe point of this briefcase? When they openthe briefcase and the belt isn't there,is it going to lead us into somefabulous other dimension of creativity?What the fuck is going on here?That would be interesting. They opened the briefcase. There's nothing in there
02:53:38and then Renee comes out wearing the briefcase,or wearing the briefcase wearing the belt.You know, maybe they could do that. I thought you were going to sayRenee would come out of the briefcase. Now,I'd pay to see.I don't know.That'd be pretty magical.She did used to be a contortionist in her younger days.
02:53:53She was able to be folded up into a small wallet and credit card holder.I think despite people claiming that the Moxley title run has been a big success,people are ignoring the fact.Who claimed that?Oh, no.I mean, Dave Meltzer has claimed it.Other people have claimed it that his title run has led to a business increase,not a business decrease.
02:54:15But it's been a complete.creative failure.AEW's own fans hate it.And I think fans right nowwith their fingers crossed that hopefully we're in the last days of it,but...Well, but then we end up with Paige.I'm not going to put money on that either.
02:54:28I'm not going to, you know, we'll see what happens,but this stuff has got to go away.Then after that, we're going to get Paige in the bucks,because that's what we need.More of that shit.Maybe they could program Paige with Mina.Nick Jackson has never looked like a wrestler.He's never looked less like a wrestler
02:54:45than he does right now.He has like no shape to him.His hair that was always receding has recededto a whole new degree right now.He looks ridiculous.When you accidentally drop.He has to wear the full body suit like Randy Savagewhen he got off steroids.
02:55:02This guy wasn't on steroids?Imagine what it looks like.It's just not good.When you accidentally drop a glob of face lotionin a sink of water,that type of indiscriminate shapewhere it just kind offloats around.
02:55:19That's what you're sayingNick Jackson's body looks like.I think that's part of it, yeah.The fact that they can't talk,that the promos suck,that the fans don't havethe right kind of heel reaction to them.I think there's a whole number of things.
02:55:30And, yeah, I think they're going to double downand all that for one last runfor all these people before their bodies break downand they're not worth what Tony's paying them.Well, they've never been worth what Tony's paying him,but that hadn't stopped him before now.But again, if I was,If I was taking shit, I would say, okay, you're giving Okada how much,
02:55:50and you're giving Ibushi how much?And what about me, boss?I'm still young and able to fall down.For real?I'd say, if you want me to stay, you pay me now for my future.Well, he's paying everybody else for their past.That's right.And what other place, I'll say this and we'll move along to,
02:56:12if anybody watched this fiasco, but it, if what,What other company of any endeavor in the world, can you actually get a lot of money, a guaranteed job, and a nice contract because you used to be good at the thing that they did 10 or 15 years ago?Where? How, when? Why?Well, there are talentless executives who always get a second or third chance. A lot of it's about relationships. And of course, that's the AW story. A lot of it's about relationships.But that was AEW Dynamite. Hey, that guy used to be great.20 years ago. Let's fucking put him on the team.All righty, speaking of the team, Brian,before we talk about the Nielsen team
02:56:57that evaluated this broadcast,what's going on from the teamat the Arcadian Vanguard Network this week?Another final week of shows on the Arcadian Vanguardpodcast network and information about all the shows on Twitterat Super Podcast or on Facebook at facebook.comslash Arcadian Vanguard. Of course, every day,get the wrestling news for free.
02:57:17get your wrestling news from the wrestling news.com or wherever you find your favorite podcast,no clickbait, no paywall, just the wrestling news.Also want to make mention of shut up and wrestle with Brian Solomon.He continues his look at NWA Champions of the Past.This time, Luthez, talking with someone who trained with Luthes, Mark Fleming.Mark Fleming.Hear that today.Did you ever work, he worked crock of, pocket tapings, yeah.
02:57:45Oh, yeah, I worry.He was still there in 85.Mark's from Norfolk.I believe so.Yes.Well, hear more from him and hear more about Luthez,S-U-A-W-Podd-com,or shut up and wrestle with Brian Solomon,
02:57:57wherever you find your favorite podcast.And, of course, the 605 Super Podcast,The Mothership!Go through the archive, 605pod.com,available wherever you find your favorite podcasts.The Mother ship.See, that sounds like a...Sounds like a sale to me.
02:58:16we're ringing these bad boys upthat sounds like a reason to give somebody some money to stopwhat uh what did anybody watch the program this past Wednesday before we gowell Jim let's go to the ratings AW Dynamite June 25th2025 to answer your question from earlier according to Russell ticks2,370 tickets distributed in Kent Washingtonfrom 8 to 10.08 p.m.Now, wait a minute.
02:58:49Okay, hold on here a second, though,because I swore, I swear, wait a minute,they did two shows, didn't they?They did two shows there in Seattleat that particular location,and one of those, you're 1,800 people.Outside of Seattle.And I'm, well, how far outside, by the way?
02:59:11Is it what he's doing like at 70 miles or what?Kent Washington.I don't know where that is.Well, that's, uh,Kent Washington.They said Seattle on the graphic.Wait a minute.Hold on.
02:59:26Ah, hold on.I got something for you.It is part of the Seattle, Tacoma, Bellevue metropolitan area.Okay, June 21st, it was the collision and Ring of Honor tapings in Kent, Washington that did 1894.And then...The dynamite taping did 2370.So put that together, that's about 4,200.That's about one-third of the amount of people that fucking WWE did on Raw the other night.
02:59:59But go ahead.Well, let's go to the numbers from 8 to 10.08 p.m.On average, watch by 613,000 viewers.Ouch, we're back to reality.and now I still do otherwise into curiosity factor will let other people figure out why that an extra hundred and some thousand people watched last week but the tournaments are all done and over with right did they have any just they had one competition free week and then boy they got killed with high rated programs or did they just go back to normal without being in Mexico for a big showmaybe a mix of things.It was also the NBA draft,which is a big deal on ESPN.
03:00:48But let's go to Tony's draft.These are a quarter hour.Let's get a little drafty in here now.We can't even fucking fight the draft now.I guess that's a strange way of phrasing that.But go ahead.Well, these are the quarter hours.These were compiled by WrestleMania 9.8.8.15 p.m.
03:01:07The Mercedes Monet, Tony Storm,Mina Shirakawa,angle, the YoungBucks backstage promo, and thestart of Swerp Strickland and Will Osprey versusBlake Christian and Lee Johnsonwith picture and picture643,000
03:01:26viewers. Ouch,okay. Notonly are they back down to normalon their average, butthat's one of the lowerstarts in recentmemory, is it not? It's considerablyoff the trend, which is a
03:01:42slightly above 700,000, so yes, it is.But in looking at it, in a positive light, they're not going to drop as far as normal.They can't.Well, we go to quarter two, 815-8.30 p.m., continuation of swerve and Osprey versusBlake and Lee, the post-match with the Young Bucks, a recap, an ad break, the YoungBucks and Don Callis family backstage angle, and the start of Trempereta versusis Kota Ibushi.576,000 viewers.
03:02:18Wow.Okay.That is 24, 60, that's 67,000.It's not as much as they usually lose from one to two,but now they've got to come back up at some point in this showjust to make their average.Or is it going to come back up now that people are convincedthe bucks are off their screen or what?
03:02:42Well, we go to quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m.The continuation of Beretta versus Abushi, the post-match with Okada, the John Moxleybackstage promo, an ad break, and the AR Fox Rikishay backstage angle.Good Lord.608,000 viewers.Well, they're doing everything they can to run to people off, but they got back32,000 again.Okay, we're safe
03:03:13from the Buccane. Was that the thought?I don't know. We got a quarter four, 845to 9 p.m. The continuation of, or actuallyI guess the start of, Fox and Rickashay versus JetSpeedwith picture and picture heads.And the JetSpeed Hurt Syndicate Live Angle,for the start of it, 623,000 viewers.Okay, we're going in the right direction again.
03:03:42Now the Hertz Syndicate are coming up.I would think that that would mean maybe at the top of the hour,they're going to gain a few.Well, you mentioned the top of the hour,the big 9 o'clock hour, quarter 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m.The continuation of JetSpeed and the Hertz Syndicates,live angle, now with Mark Briscoe,and an ad break, 644,000 viewers.
03:04:09they now officially, about 1,000 people,the top of the hour at 9 o'clock is better than the first quarter.That never happens.Never happens.So it happened last week.Well, and it never happens until the last two weeks.But think about that.What was last week?
03:04:28It was MJF and Mystico.But for years, for years, the first number was always bigger than every other number on the showby 50,000, 70,000.100,000, whatever, because it was always in the eights, and then it was in a sevens.Now it's in a six.Sixes, so they're not losing as much, but they're coming back and doing a thousand peoplebetter than the start at the top of the hour, and that's not usually heard of.Well, again, 10 million people on max, but let's now go to quarter 6, 915, and 930 p.m.
03:05:06Roderick Strong versus Mark Briscoe versus Conno.Kosuke Takesta versus Bandito with picture and picture, 620,000 viewers.Well, that's not as bad as it could have been.They are still, that is only, there's two quarters previously that were lower than that.Well, we're going out of quarter seven, 930 to 9.45 p.m., Adam Cole's backstage promo,Athena versus Thunder Rosa versus Wool.Nightingale versus Chris Stalander.I don't know how long I can go without seeing you.
03:05:47Picture and picture ads.And the post match with Marina Shafir and Wheeler Yuda,623,000 viewers.So they're fairly steady there.The going home stretch.We've only got one quarter in an overrun.Can Frank bring it home?We'll be going out of quarter eight.
03:06:09I remind you, 8-minute overrun,9.45 to 10 p.m.A recap.An ad break.The FTR and Stokely Hathaway backstage promo.And the start of the Beast Mortos versus Hangman Adam Pagewith picture and picture.582,000 viewers.
03:06:318-minute overrunwith the Bucks and the Death Riders and Will Osprey and the ops.579,000 viewers.Well, again, looking on the positive side,for the first time I can recall,quarter eight had 6,000 more viewers than quarter two.But then they fool those people who had bailed out specificallyso they wouldn't have to watch the bucks,
03:07:00and the bucks came back at the end.So the buck, and the bucks, the overrun,the bucks get the three,lowest, oh, the two, we'll be fair, the two lowest quarter hour ratings of the bunch.It's every time it's the bucks and it's the Moxley stuff.If they can only find someone the program the Hertz Syndicate MJF with that mattered,you'd have something because they're the only thing that ever pops a number.But that was dynamite.
03:07:31Well, it was, and this is my show, isn't it?Indeed, caching.then that means that I can say when it's over.And the sale has been made.Folks, come back.What is it?The drive-through, we're going to have the pay-per-view extravaganza from Saudi Arabiaand hopefully no other activity will take place besides what's scheduled over there
03:07:57and we'll talk about all that.And next week, more from T&A and all the rest of the gang.And until then for Brian and me.Thank you.Fuck you.And bye-bye, everybody.K.R.The experience.
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