Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 589: Jim Reviews WWE's Roster, A to J

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews WWE's roster, A to J! Plus Jim reviews AEW Dynamite, and looks at his TNA firing in 2009, including his exchanges with Terry Taylor & Dixie Carter! Also, J...im talks about fans in Saudi Arabia, fan club ID cards, Diddy's trial, ratings, and more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: RAYCON:  Go to buyraycon.com/jce to get 15% off Raycon's best-selling Everyday Earbuds! SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/jce Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's in Connett. The keys to the future. Help by On it. That I can be nice to people, but only one time. Plus, on Unsolved Mysteries, we're going to try to unravel what the stipulations are for AEW's upcoming pay-per-view. All that and frivolity as well.
Starting point is 00:01:20 and joining me, Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line, the King of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. co-host to you, the illegitimate son of Robert Stack. Be great, Brian Last, everybody. Aloha, Jim, a pleasure to be here once again. I can't wait to hear what you're going to say about a few things on Dynamite here this week.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Can you just, can you step from the darkness into the light when you say that with a snap brim hat on? Go ahead. That's right. This is unsolved mystery. we're going with this theme, Unsolved Mysteries. And, uh, I don't know what the hell they're talking about. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:01:59 That was a better role for him than Caddyshack 2, where he replaced, uh, Ted, uh, what's his name? Ted, uh, Buddy, uh, Ted Baxter. Ted Knight, Ted Knight. Ted Knight. Ted Knight. Hey, watch what you say about it. If it wasn't for Robert Stack, then Al Capone would have never gone to prison. So watch what you say about him.
Starting point is 00:02:20 but speaking of prison, I know what you're wanting to talk about. I know, I don't even have to ask, what are you going to talk about? You want to talk about did he, did he do it? Did he, did he do it? Did he do it? He didn't do some of it, but some of it he did do. So what now is Did he going to do in your opinion there, Brian? I think Diddy will serve at most a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:02:50 based on what everyone is saying. Technically, the judge could say time served, but I don't know if that's going to happen. But yeah, they overreach. They didn't get them on racketeering or sex trafficking. Reminder, those were the things that we heard that were going after Vince McMahon for, and they got dropped.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And this is why. I don't know about the racketeering, but it sounds like he had plenty of sex in traffic from all the testimony. He was having a sex everywhere. But they were saying the sex trafficking was like him getting a prostitute and bringing in across state lines. Not like, you know, you captured this girl and, you know, wouldn't let her out of your car and took her across the state. So, I mean, it seemed like an overreach on several things not to take away from him being a nasty motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:03:38 But I just, you've been keeping us abreast of this. I don't mean to be, you know, crass about the day. But you've been keeping us up to date on this. So I didn't know what your reaction was now that the judge won't let him out, though. Do you think he would run off and just buy his own private island somewhere and just not come back rather than even go to jail for three years after all of this hoopla? Well, we'll see how much money he has after all this hoopla because this is the end of this, but this isn't the end of his court issues.
Starting point is 00:04:08 He's getting sued by like 70 different people. Well, no, haven't you ever watched a goddamn James Bond movie? If he goes and buys some island somewhere and just staffs, with his criminal henchman, and it don't matter whether you. Could you sue Ernst Stavros Blofeld? Oric Goldfinger, going to haul him into court, Brian?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Well, I guess... Let's see the discovery on that. He'll have odd job chop your head off. He wouldn't have to leave based on just a couple of years in jail, but the lawsuits, if there's something there, then, yeah, he may pull a Russell Simmons and all of a sudden he's in Bali or something.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Well, yeah, I mean, if you... If you had as much money, as Diddy do? Would you go to jail for two years or would you just say, fuck it, I'll just here, go get me 9,000 bottles of baby oil and 900
Starting point is 00:04:59 hookers and the plane and 10 bodyguards and the guy with the drug bag and we're going to fucking Bolivia. No, you don't do that over two years. That's the stupidest thing. That wouldn't happen. Are you okay? Now, you're saying that you don't believe Diddy would do a stupid.
Starting point is 00:05:17 stupid thing. I'm saying I don't think he would flee the country. If you are this lunatic. I don't think he would flee America over getting two years in jail. No, I do not. I don't think he's looking forward to the freak-offs or freak-outs or freak-out. Mm, yeah, much old man. I don't think he's looking forward to those over the next couple years.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Well, I think that's exactly. Because they don't have a lot of lube in jail. I think that's exactly what he's looking forward to in jail. I think it's going to be the most epic freak-off of all time, whatever girl he has at that moment. when he gets out of jail, it's going to be off the hook because now everyone knows? He doesn't have to hide anything now. Now it's just like he can like literally
Starting point is 00:05:55 middle of the day go to Costco and get his baby and walk out with the cart and smile for the cameras. He should get his sponsorship. They may be the only ones who do business with him. See, that's the big thing. How's his business going to repair? How's his business ever going to? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Tom, while he's got this money, fuck the lawyers. He ain't going to write that last check. They're going to take off. from the airstrip in the middle of the night in the Astroglide Express and he's never going to see him again. He's got all the money on his private island and et cetera. And he's going to be a bond villain.
Starting point is 00:06:30 He ain't going to put up with going to jail and no more. That's what. You know what? Here's what I think about this. After all of this big buildup, I thought we were going to find out he was like the goddamn international fucking ring of goddamn something or other.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I think it's a heel program. I think not only is this guy a fucking weirdo and a creep, but everybody that was working for him through all this and dating him and or anybody that happened to be his best fucking friend. All got what they deserve. And I don't care about them. We got bigger fucking issues going on in the world and whether Did he do it?
Starting point is 00:07:19 We know who the other motherfucker is that's doing it. And haul him into court and save some people around the world instead of Diddy's immediate goddamn social circle. That's what I think. And the RICO thing was ridiculous. You're not going to get him for RICO for this. They treated him like John Gotti for this, for prostitutes and girlfriends that he beat up. And that's awful.
Starting point is 00:07:37 But that wasn't even what he was on trial for. And the prosecution from what you read was presenting stuff like, you know, this is how awful it was. This is what he did. She had no way out. There was nothing she could do. and then I think it was either Cassie or the other one, where it was like, yeah, the prosecution saying how bad we should want it out,
Starting point is 00:07:55 the defense is like, here's a text where you say, I'll take on any three men you pick, you know, you pick them. So, I mean, like the jury's sitting in it's like, you know, it seems like. Conflicting testimony, I believe. Yeah, bad guy, people who made decisions on their own because they wanted to please this bad guy, and then they regret it and you can't blame them. and some things, who knows how consensual they were, based on what you heard.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But also couldn't get out of the relationship. Okay, there's a lot of people can't get out of a relationship. They had a fucking guy arrested here in Louisville for chaining his goddamn girlfriend to the floor while he was gone, and he's hauled into court now. But you keep, you're with an international superstar, and people take a picture of you and video of you. Just say, hey, can somebody come over here and get me?
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'd like to leave. Fuck you can't fucking leave at that point, for God's sake. Well, I think he was also paying her rent, but that's the Diddy case. Well, God damn. But, you know, the Vince McMahon stuff, again, we're still talking about the Janelle Grant thing. It's a civil case. Apparently, there's no fear of any federal case, and based on what we had heard, against sex trafficking, and what just happened with this Diddy trial in front of a jury,
Starting point is 00:09:13 you can't see how they would get Vince for that. Not to say he's not a nasty, dirty motherfucker, but... I don't know if these prosecutors can get anybody for anything at this point. I think they ought to call Stephen P. New, see if he can give him a fucking tutorial. Apparently Stephen P. New, according to an email we received before the show, was getting bombarded from all over the world with legal requirements. Yeah, there was a...
Starting point is 00:09:40 All over the place, like, I know a lawyer. We might have to see if we can get it legally cleared to fucking mention on next week's program what the contact with Stephen P. New was this week from someone needing assistance. But anyway, all right then. You think Diddy can make a comeback? I mean, can anyone make a comeback from what has come out from the video of the beating
Starting point is 00:10:07 in the hotel in California? Well, the trial. Anybody can make a comeback. from anything at this point, any, just for the sake of if somebody is the most detestable cretan on the face of the planet,
Starting point is 00:10:26 somebody else will like them for it. So you could come back with some people from anything or possibly make people that are never interested in you before. Oh, now he's okay. Because people are fucking weird. So a lot of people knows who he knows who he is. That's horrible.
Starting point is 00:10:48 A lot of people know it knows this, yes. A lot of people think it, don't think it be like it is, but it do. A lot of people know who he is. That's all he needs to make money if he wants to choose to do that. If you were a porn studio, would you offer him money to direct, based on the notoriety of him being all into filming it and directing the stars of his little private film, his girlfriend and whatever hooker they got? well but no because think about this what
Starting point is 00:11:15 what goddamn porn studio could afford him at his he ought to that's the thing he could just take over the porn business he could open one as eh i'll show you how to do it right and people will be buying that shit all over the fucking place well i think we just booked this comeback unfortunately on VHS I don't know about that I don't know about VHS but he could see get set up his he could set up his own store
Starting point is 00:11:44 like ditties diddle den and he could sell all of his porn and his lube I think there's another hearing coming up because I'm going to try to get the sentencing moved up what do you think about the trial being over now and then the sentencing being in October well I also think he's probably pissed a judge off enough and he said oh I just let this fucking guy sit there for a while and see if he likes
Starting point is 00:12:07 you can't think that anybody is necessarily like, oh, this poor fucking innocent creature has been so mistreated. So they're probably just, let's let him sit there for a while. I was watching CNN for the live coverage because they had like two different reporters in front and then they had a reporter inside who could run out and give the reports.
Starting point is 00:12:27 They had it fully staffed. And the people outside the courthouse started building up as the word of the verdict came in. And I told Suzanne what was on the, TV when she walked by. She didn't believe me. Then the woman repeated it. The supporters started spraying baby oil in the air. When they said not guilty, they all started just spraying baby oil at each other and in the air. So someone said, did he make it off? Let me get the baby oil and go down to the courthouse. That's insane. That's crazy fandom.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Well, there you go. And boy, not only crazy, but greasy. All right, I found a couple things before we get into a, I'm sorry, I've touched the microphone there, before we get into a couple of letters from the cult of Cornette members, I've been pulling all this stuff out. We're going to have another T&A update here shortly, the paperwork and everything we've been agent reports, things we've been talking about the last few weeks. And I've also been trying to find, go through some old pictures, programs, and things for another project I'm working on.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It's going to be fun for all the kids. And I found three things real quick that I thought you would get a kick out of. My membership cards, Brian, to fan clubs. Oh, cool. Of wrestlers from the early 70s. Oh, very cool.
Starting point is 00:13:53 At least as of this card expires March 1975, so I assume I got it in March 74th, so I was 12, from the worldwide Bruno Samertino fan club. George Ian? No. Mike Madunio? No.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I always thought it was Madugno. I guess that didn't sound very Italian. Madugno, does it? Well, see, I didn't know about Italian when I was fucking... Don't laugh at me. When you were fucking, you didn't know about it, but now you know all about it. When I was 12, I'm saying I didn't know Italian when I was 12. No, this was the old vice president.
Starting point is 00:14:36 under Mike Bedugno that took over for him Larry Polarski Larry the new headquarters in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania I'm certified as a member in good standing, the Bruno fan club there and also
Starting point is 00:14:54 I'll have you know I was a member this certifies the above is a member of good standings I was standing all over the place the fabulous kangaroos and manager Sir Clements fan club, the president of same Wanda Melton, who had a lovely handwriting.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Where was that? I have no fucking idea. It's a great, it's the picture of Al Costello and Don Kent with Sir Clements in the background and they've got the flag, the Australian flag leaning in the back. What I was doing,
Starting point is 00:15:34 you've read some of the fan club sections from the wrestling match. magazines at the time, even on the, the after magazines, on the newsstands, London Publishing, they had fan club sections. Somebody on Twitter tweeted out the picture
Starting point is 00:15:50 of Taz when he was 12 years old, Pete Snerchia looking for pen pals from one of the magazines. Well, this was obviously before Taz's time. I'm not trying to make him an old man. But they, in the, what you got when you joined
Starting point is 00:16:08 the fan club, you always got like an 8 by 10 picture. I say always maybe, you know, but you always got an 8 by 10. Sometimes it was even autograph, not personally, but you got the idea that the guy had signed 25 pictures for here, Wanda, whatever. But you got an 8 by 10, you got the membership card. You got like supposedly bulletins, newsletters every so often. I don't remember ever seeing a goddamn fabulous kangaroo. and manager Sir Clements fan club newsletter.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I got the 8 by 10, which I still have, and this card. But that's because some of these people are me. They're like 12 years old trying to start this fan club. And the guys are saying, sure, kid. Some of them lasted, as you mentioned Georgianne with Bruto and into Mike Madagno, and et cetera. But some of them, here's another one, the international Pedro Morales fan club.
Starting point is 00:17:12 You were a member of this, really? I was, again, every fan club that offered the picture and the bulletin and the card and whatever something, some goodies, it was $2 a year, $3 a year, whatever, right? As well, I'll read you note on the back of this. Because they didn't even fill my name in on this.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Number one is spelled Morales, International Pedro Morales fan club. The president was Beth Zah. from Pensville, New Jersey, the vice president Raymond Weaver from Philadelphia. But on the back of the card, it just no hello, Jim, or anything. Dues have been $3.50 since the beginning of summer, I'd sent $3, right, or whatever, or maybe $250. We'll make yours an eight-month subscription. If you prefer, you may send the additional dollar and be extended to a full year.
Starting point is 00:18:09 so it's like you're you're sending off two or three dollars in the mail to at least get an eight by ten usually signed and hopefully some other shit and sometimes you got bulletins out to yin-yang and sometimes you you'd never heard from these people again but the true the names that we all know were legitimate and and persevered and lasted through the years I collect fabulous kangaroo boomerangs. The yellow one on card stock or whatever? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I don't know, but yellow. I think it was supposed to be white. White-ish. Actually, no, no, I'm not meaning like it's yellowed with age. No, I think there was a number of them, but I have one that is on yellow. It's a yellow-colored boomerang with the writing on it and et cetera. Oh, no way, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:09 They may have done white. ones also. Do you have Al Costello's chart of 100 holds or whatever it is? Yeah, okay, there you go. See, he was early on with the self-promotion and the marketing, and again, it's in weird ways sometimes like that, but he was doing things that the average wrestler wasn't doing. And also, if you kind of look back at that chart with some things, he was doing MMA holes because of his European background and his Matt wrestling and he was a little bit of the old hooker. He was doing some MMA shit on these demonstrations to make wrestling look legitimate that
Starting point is 00:19:51 you didn't see back then from your average bear. Anyway, all righty. Can I mention something on a similar wavelength? Yes. I'm going to file these. So these are here. And you mentioned passes or IDs and made me think of this. I have two here.
Starting point is 00:20:09 this one, an annual pass, wrestling matches, Goulis and Welch Wrestling Enterprises, admit, and then you're writing a name. This pass, authorized by the Tennessee Athletic Commission, good from this date, until this date, and you write them in, Nick Gulles, Roy Welch, promoters,
Starting point is 00:20:30 signed, and I guess they would sign it there, no taxes, good for ringside seats. Yes, there... The commission, and I'm not sure without looking at that, what era this is from, but through one of Scott Teal's wonderful books at crowbarpress.com, the commission at some points, had issues with Nick and Roy on giving away tickets and them not getting the proper cut or whatever. And there was an issue with either comps or which the Tennessee territory was never noted for giving out. a lot of comps to any of the fucking shows. Sometimes they look at you sideways if you brought your wife or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Let alone ringside. I think, and let alone ringside, but I think at some point the commission may have been led to believe, oh, a lot of those are comps, you know, that type of deal, right? So there was some, for a period of time,
Starting point is 00:21:32 there was some type of something like that that had to be filled out if that was going to be, if it was going to be a comp ticket, they had to have some record of it. You see where I'm going with this. Well, I also have here a shiny gold card. Minneapolis Boxing and Wrestling Club, Inc.
Starting point is 00:21:47 This pass will entitle Mr. and there's a blank space to write in a name, and one guest to Minneapolis boxing and wrestling club matches. You must exchange this pass at the box office, the day of the match. Wally Carbo, promoter. And that was Wally Carbo.
Starting point is 00:22:08 obviously was Vern's partner from the beginning when they started the AWA and he had a lot of the money in it at first and then he was used his on-screen commissioner, promoter, etc, over 30 years or whatever, but if he would go around town
Starting point is 00:22:28 with sponsors or businesses and they would know who he was, oh, there's Wally Carbo, the wrestling promoter. And if he sensed an interest in something and he wanted, here, here, take this, they'll take care of you at the box office and that's the type of thing he would hand out. It's a good thing to have, especially if it's a town that you're going to be running regularly for 30 or 40 years.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, 30 or 40 years, you probably need to fucking make a couple of friends. So that's what they would, the promoters, that's what they would do. I like that you're still going through your files. I think the listeners are really digging this stuff. Yeah, they're digging. I feel like I need a shovel. And so that's the problem is between moving a number, of times 20 and 30 years ago and looking for shit for a specific project where I'm setting other
Starting point is 00:23:16 stuff aside and I don't have time to put it back in a proper order. I've shuffled the deck a lot over the last 40 years. So you're getting shit in the order you get it in. As Mama Cornett used to say, it won't be as long as it's been. We'll come up with some other stuff. I want it real quick, David from Long Beach, Mississippi, has been feeling puny, as Christine Jarrett would say, but the shows have cheered him up. Apparently, he enjoys hearing us die on the air and just basically stink the joint up. And he's able to make fun of us because of that. No, he didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I'm just, you know. We've been super serving him for a while. He does like when we talk about Hong Kong fuy. man that song Rocky the Ramon had on the drive-thru this dude there you go well he's good now David from Long Beach Mississippi did I mention because he's probably the only one there's seven people there so they'll they'll know who he is over there at the stoplight yeah he's got that on his his repeat on his headphones or his ear pods or his nectarines or whatever the fuck they call I'm from Long Beach New York you hear a lot about Long Beach California
Starting point is 00:24:32 you don't hear too much about Long Beach, Mississippi. Well, it's not that long of a beach, actually. That's what, you know, people go there once for vacation, thinking they're going to a big long beach, and it's like fucking 40 feet, and there's some broken glass, and they say, fuck it, and they don't go back, so you don't hear a lot about. Anyway, I also got another email.
Starting point is 00:24:54 This is, you know, again, folks, we got fans all over the world, and I know a lot of people are going to call bullshit that we have fans in Saudi Arabia, but I want to thank the several people on Twitter who took the freeze frame, the still frame of the guy wearing the cornet face shirt by the ramp at night of champions and says, so we know they're there. It could have been this fellow, although it, come to think of it, we're in Saudi Arabia, it may just have been a fucking excommunicated head floating around. Now, I shouldn't, I'm not going to joke. Because
Starting point is 00:25:30 You said, I'm going to apologize to some people here in a second, Brian. Oh, now you? Now you're doing this? Me? This is the new thing? This show is going to be a theme where you see that I'm nice and polite to people when I'm, when I'm given the opportunity to be it. I'm treated fairly and spoken to in a respectable fashion. I'm going to apologize somebody here in a minute over here in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Because I genuinely mean it. So hold on here. Hi, Jim and Brian. He's talking to you too. I am a fan from Saudi Arabia. I mentioned to Youssef. I listen to a clip you guys put out about punk in Saudi Arabia, and I wanted to clear some stuff up.
Starting point is 00:26:13 For starters, while the government here is awful, most of the people do not agree with it. That's something I imagine you can relate to. We are all legitimate wrestling fans, which I'm sure was evident on Smackdown and Night of Champions. We watched WWE religiously. No, we don't get it. get free tickets or be forced at gunpoint to go to shows.
Starting point is 00:26:34 We were talking about how similar it is. In a hyperbolic way, we were talking about, what is this? Well, those Korea type of things, Pyongyang, Brian. But we buy tickets just like fans in the U.S. do. Both shows were a legitimate sellout and 50,000 tickets were sold across two days.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So that I never, that's one thing you never heard anybody talking about was how many people were there, right? So that ticket sale money goes to the Saudi government, right? Because it's a sold show, right? I mean, WWE doesn't get. Yeah, they would, yes, they would get them. For $50 million, I'd hope they'd get the money. I'd shake the fans down for change on the way out.
Starting point is 00:27:17 But you don't hear them bragging about what we had 30,000 people one night or at least 25 and 25. Somehow it totaled 50. Anyway, back to you, Seth. While we do buy shows to see WWE, we do not like AEW. Most fans here don't know what it is, but a few friends of mine know who Tony Kahn is and call him that crackhead kid.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Oh, come on. This is a bullshit email from Saudi Arabia. They're calling him out. No, I'm as well. Come on. Hold on now. Come on. He says, I'm just telling you what,
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm just telling you what's going on here. I then break the news to him that he's near middle, or news to them that he's near, middle age now, so he can't be a crackhead kid. Fans were offended by CM Punk here because they loved punk, so his apology meant a lot to us, not because of the government, but because he is someone we all looked up to. We aren't a bunch of terrorists. We are fans and people just like you guys were. WWE comes here once or twice a year, and it's one of the biggest highlights of our lives.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Now there, I'm sorry about that. CM Punk has seemingly been forgiven by most fans. I certainly forgive him. P.S. that apology was not a plant. I am friends with the man punk apologize to. Whether he planned to do it or not, the fan was not in on it despite what Uncle Dave claims. In conclusion, please remember, we are big fans just like others. We love Punk, Orton, Ripley, and Bailey. One of those things is not like the other. Please remember that when tearing down the regime, not the country or the people. So, you know, I was thinking about But his point remains, Brian, whether he is someone from Cleveland impersonating someone from Saudi Arabia or who he purports himself to be.
Starting point is 00:29:12 When we were talking about the girls match, one of the ladies' matches, and talking about the scuba diving outfits that Ria Ripley and all of them were wearing, and I said, what's wrong with these people? and that was a blanket statement that I should not have made because again, as he said, most of the people don't agree with the government. We've sat here all this time and we've got comfortable being able to say, oh, what's wrong with those people?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Well, now everybody around the world has said, what's wrong with those people about us? And unlike in Saudi Arabia, they have the royal family where they can't get out of it. It's just whoever these people's sperm benefits, beneficiaries are. It's a different thing altogether. There's no elections.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It's just this family will own this land forever. We brought this shit on ourselves. So we have actually less fucking moral standing to criticize those people. First of all, no one was criticizing
Starting point is 00:30:19 the Saudi people. We were criticizing Well, no, I did. When I said, what's wrong with those people? That's why I'm apologizing. I hereby and publicly apologize to everybody in Saudi Arabia who doesn't think that Ria Ripley ought to be wearing a scuba diver's outfit to wrestle in. It's not the fault of the regime.
Starting point is 00:30:44 There's good people over there. And that's true. Where he says, you know, punk said, punk didn't say anything bad about the Saudi Arabian people or fans. When you say, go suck a blood money covered dick, you're not talking about Slapco, Fudd and Fubar Makafax. You're talking about the government who organized the Bonesaws. Yes, the Bonesaw McGraw.
Starting point is 00:31:11 That'd be interesting if there was a wrestler in W.W.E. name Bonesaw, whatever, you know, Bonesaw Bruce. Would they bring them over? Yeah. Go to the sun. So that's, if you don't want to go to Saudi Arabia, that's when they tell you, like, come up with a new name, we're not going to use yours because we want to own you. Come up with a name to make sure you don't get back. booked. What about
Starting point is 00:31:32 Khashagi? Kshogi? Kshogi. Here is Billy. Overthrow the regime Khashoggi. That could be your name. That probably wouldn't work over there. I don't know. See, it's all about the different market. You know, I mean, it's crazy, and again, some of that email, I don't know what the Tony Kahn hits, that makes it seem a little suspicious,
Starting point is 00:31:52 but this isn't the first or only correspondence we've received from Saudi Arabia in the last couple of weeks, or the last couple of years, actually. And I've actually, I've not had Hotchkiss run the, run the computerized figures yet, but we know we sold at least one T-shirt, Saudi Arabia. So we got that going for us. See, we're trying to bring people together all around the world. So if it's a sold show, are the ticket prices high?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Or are the ticket prices for the people? You know what I mean? Like, how do you do that? Well, Yousaf, get back with us because I don't know. I don't know what the cost of living or the things are priced like in Saudi Arabia to determine whether it is, if $10 in the goddamn Amazonian rainforest might last you a year or two, but it might not be so much anywhere else. And one thing, and who knows what's what.
Starting point is 00:32:52 But other than Dave Meltzer, Dave Meltzer wasn't the only person reporting that that fan, Muhammad and the W.W.E. hat carefully placed in the front row at punk thing that punk heard over all the other screams of everyone else. Dave Meltzer wasn't the only person reporting that that person was a plant. So who knows, uh, Yusuf says he knows him, but we also don't know Yusuf. I mean, Yusuf could be Joe, Joe from Chicago. I mean, it could be anyone. You said that you don't know Yusuf, but if you knew Yusuf like I knew Yusuf,
Starting point is 00:33:24 you'd leave Yusuf to himself. Remember when Kat Stevens changed his name to Yusuf. Yousef Islam and said he was never going to play his songs again. Then he needed money. And then all of a sudden he said, playing what was fucking songs again? I didn't see that. There's the problem. I took him at his word.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I thought he was gone and never came back. I never, I never, I never even knew that he, he flip-flopped on that. So I just, you know, he was always seemed like a man of his word.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So when he said, no, fuck it, I don't want to be a goddamn international superstar, rock star selling millions of records. I want to be, over here in the mosque or whatever. Well, okay, well, nice knowing you.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Morning is broken. He got on the peace train. Right on out of there. Anyhow. Brian, would you like to do our segment now that we've had the recurring segment over the past few weeks on the drive-through of what we talked about earlier.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I've dug in the file cabinets and got some of the TNA agent reports that I was asked to give right before they fired me for giving them. And then we've been reading those. Would you like to have the rest of the story now bring this journey through hysteria into the clothes that it closed on? Absolutely. This has been a very popular segment, a recurring segment here on the show, the last several weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:54 We hope we could find something to substitute for the fact that you only did a few weeks of these, but let's go back to this. Yeah, well, I've still got a bunch more. I've got, the OVW drawers are jammed, and I've got talent evaluations and various paperwork and ephemera. If, again, I could ever figure out a way to file it, I just have a file for one piece of paper.
Starting point is 00:35:18 These things are all goddamn unique, but nevertheless, to bring people up to date, and you can hear it on the YouTube channel that in T&A summer of 2009, Dixie had sent Jeff Jared home. Then as we've pretty much established, Rousseau had manipulated her to fire all the people that Jeff had hired, which included Dutch Mantel and creative, and Savio Vega was an agent, and Road Dog was an agent, and I'm the last one. And there, Terry Taylor has asked me to write the agent reports,
Starting point is 00:35:54 tell us what you really think give us some analysis on this just like you do it in person don't hold back I've read them there was there any four letter words and maybe a shit every once in a while but was there even any
Starting point is 00:36:11 they were very professionally written report they were written writs if you've read the rits I've written you'll know they're really well written rits I thought they were really fair actually it was kind of exactly what you would want Well, there you go. Well, I hold on more on that minute.
Starting point is 00:36:26 But anyway, I've written those reports. And also, as we've established, they brought in a bunch of new agents, which unfortunately, I'm not going to mention anybody's name, but they were not of the experience level at that level of production and, et cetera. And they were all beholden to have a job. And they were very indie-minded,
Starting point is 00:36:42 whereas we've lost our experience. Dave Sahadi and Keith Mitchell, the producer and the director, want me in the truck. I'm producing the main event matches. I'm, the younger guys were coming to me for input on stuff I wasn't involved in to try to just help their presentation. I've been given Hernandez as a project to make Supermex and we're talking about bringing him to Louisville to help work out with him. And so all this is going to, and Jeff Jarrett has called me,
Starting point is 00:37:17 is they don't let Vince Rousseau go too far with his booking. you know how he is, that type of thing. So I'm doing all this stuff. I've given the reports. I've read the reports on the previous clips. And I actually found, because this was on email, obviously, this was my first year of email back in 2009. I got with the picture.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I sent the last age of reports in that we just finished on last week's program reading. This is from Terry Taylor. T-Taylor at TNAW wrestling.com. I bet that's probably not still a goddamn email address. Jimmy, in capital letters, three times. Awesome, awesome, awesome report. Thank you for your insight, hard work, and passion. We need to hear these things.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I'll forward this to management. Again, phenomenal job, four exclamation points. One would think I was on the right track if I'm getting this from the head of Talor Relations, wouldn't want. That seems rather positive, effusive. Yeah. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:38:33 So anyway. What was Terry Taylor's actual job? He was the head of talent relations. He was the, I mean, do I have to explain at this point? No, no, I mean he was Lauren Nights. Well, no, I don't mean to you, but I mean to the average person who the head of Talar Relations is. he sits in on the contract negotiations.
Starting point is 00:38:54 He signs the paperwork. He's the liaison between the talent and the creative and the office and the business people. Go ahead. I was just going to say he's the John Laurenitis, you're saying, of TNA. Well, I'm, God damn. Just throw tar all over him.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You can say yes. I mean, in the job description only. You know, I don't even want to do that to Terry. he's a stooge but he's not goddamn that bad anyway so and also i found this is who got the agent reports terry taylor sent them to dixie carter with carbon copies to see how many these names you recognize andy barton t and a wrestling that would ring a bell i remember mike No, no, that's that's Bart Gunn's real name. Yeah, in all Japan.
Starting point is 00:39:57 No, Andy Barton was some guy that they got to work in the office. And he is, is the one that Jeff knew that this was 2006-7-ish, right after I'd gotten there shortly after. Jeff knew that a lot of the guys needed some work and needed some work in front of people and or, some training in non-indy ways of doing things. And had talked to Dennis Condry who's living in Huntsville, which is less than three hours on the interstate below Nashville. Hey, do you think you could set up a little training center? We could have a lot of guys living Nashville now.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Maybe we run some spot shows. We actually had to go and talk to the, and we did two meetings to talk to Andy Barton and Dean Broadhead, who was another big wig in the office. And not shit took place. But anyway, Andy Barton and Dean Broadhead, Matt Conway, he was the guy that worked, he was in WWF in the 90s, I think, or am I confusing him with another, yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:16 I may be confusing him with another Russo student. that worked in the office up there and Russo brought with him. I think Conway may have been new. Come to think of it, I was there, Bill Banks was the Russo stooge. Matt Conway was the guy that Dixie put on the creative team allegedly so he could take notes and do the paperwork and actually they said so that he could stooge to Dixie
Starting point is 00:41:44 on what they were saying in the creative meetings. And Vince Rousseau. That's who got the agent reports, right? So out of those people, Andy Barton and I got a copy. I was copied on the email. So Andy Barton and Dean Broadhead were in the office. Naked didn't know shit from Apple Butter about the wrestling show talent and production and didn't care as long as it was allegedly supposed to be in the betterment of their company.
Starting point is 00:42:19 and Matt Conway is the junior note taker on the creative team. And since Dutch is gone, I think about that, about the only one left besides Rousseau. And me and Rousseau and Dixie. So I wonder who would be the most upset about those agent reports, Brian, just in your unbiased, but impartial opinion is what I'm trying to say. The person who's invested in talent that you're not, putting over the way they want would be someone.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And the other person potentially thinking about the situation would be if there was a kindly old woman, well, I shouldn't say old, but there was a kindly woman who had some guy in her ear, in her email inbox nonstop saying, this guy's this, this guy's this, this guy's this, this, they may see the ultra negative in the very fair report that you had been filing. Yeah, well, he didn't come anywhere near her box, but he came all kinds of close to both of her ears. But anyway, so at that point, as I mentioned here before, my contract was coming due in,
Starting point is 00:43:35 it was October, November, December, one of those things, because I'd started three years previously about that time, and I was going to ask for a raise. because I'm doing a number of things, different things. Like I said, Jeff has me keep out on the fucking, the whole show. The production crew want me in the truck more. I'm agenting the main event matches, but I'm also trying to work with the younger guys, etc.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I want a little more money because I'm sweating my balls off because it's humid in goddamn Orlando. And then go ahead. If we could stop there real quick for any of the listeners that don't know, you were driving down for every taping. Oh yeah, I was driving 20 times a year, 862 miles from the castle to the door of the Double Tree Hotel across from Universal.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Why do you think Black Beauty has fucking 300,000 miles on it? Those are teens. But anyway, but it was, it could be freezing up here and you'd get there, it'd be 100 degrees and humid as a wet sponge. And we were outdoors all the time because it was a soundstage and then you go out underneath a covering, but you go outside in between the sound stages and over toward the building
Starting point is 00:44:53 that has the offices. So it was even worse, you're in from heat to cool, heat to cool all day, and then the fireworks start inside the fucking 10 building, etc. But anyway, so after Terry Taylor sends me the email, awesome, awesome, awesome. The next time I heard from me, he called. me one day, I answered the phone, and that's when he said, Jim, I said, yeah, Terry Taylor, how are you? Well, I've got to let you go. I said, okay. And that's what I laughed. I said,
Starting point is 00:45:27 well, I was about to ask for more money, so I guess we're real far apart. I said, explain. And that's when he gave me the story about, well, Dixie doesn't believe you're 100% behind creative. in my jaw from it. I paused for a side. I'm sorry. How is this news? How is this a bulletin that she's taking three years to figure this out when three years ago I tried to quit when he came here, right? Well, it's not just Rousseau, just she doesn't feel you're 100% behind creative.
Starting point is 00:46:08 He's trying to kind of soft pedal the Rousseau thing. And, you know, she just doesn't feel you could be as effective as you need to be if you're not all the way on the team. I said, tell you what, have Dixie call me and tell me. Don't have Dixie call me and tell me that. You know, and I'd be glad to talk to Dixie. He said, oh, yeah, yes, I really do. Have Dixie call me and tell me that. And I think it was the next, of course, she had such a busy schedule.
Starting point is 00:46:42 trying to shop around real housewives of Brentwood, Tennessee or whatever. So she calls me the next day. And this was the longest, this was the actual longest conversation I'd ever had with Dixie. And it's not that I was ever rude to her, ignored her, for most of the time I was there. She didn't come to every taping. If she did come to the tapings, my workday and hers very seldom intersected. I was, we're all over the complex doing all these things that I did every day until I was goddamn exhausted, but none of it involved speaking to or interacting with Dixie.
Starting point is 00:47:23 If we were in the hallway, I would say hello, Dixie, or if she said hello to me, I'd say hello back, pass a word about the weather, but there was never any interaction or need to, and no avoidance of saying. until as I said, after she sent Jeff home, somebody running that thing had to be there. So then she was there more and was in the meeting and would have a couple meetings backstage with the talent. But nevertheless, so she calls and says, well, Jim,
Starting point is 00:47:58 I just, we don't think you're 100% behind creative. And again, I said, Dixie, what, Terry said that when you say that, you're talking about Rousseau. of, and I don't know how this is news, how this is surprising at this point that I've never been, I've never pretended to be behind Vince Rousseau. I've been behind T&A. I think it hampers your job if you're not fully bad. Now she's saying, my job has been hampered.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I was still trying to be nice. I wanted to say, which one of these five fucking jobs has been hampered that I'm doing currently for this fucking wacky company? it could hamper your ability to do your job. I said, I'm behind T&A. That's why I'm trying to make it better. That's what I've been doing. And I've got nothing but praise for doing it.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And it seems like everybody else in a company, except one person wants to do more with me instead of less with me. But anyway, that was the deal. I gave her several opportunities. and of course this back and forth to just come out and say Vince doesn't like you, he's mad at you, you're changing his shit,
Starting point is 00:49:16 and he believes it's worse because you're changing it. And my calm, rational statement was I have never supported Vince Rousseau in any way, shape, or form, but I've done my best for your company. And that's all I can say. So she said, well, the door is always open
Starting point is 00:49:37 if things change and you can get 100% behind what we're doing. Oh, my God. I swear to God, she said that. I swear right now on my dead mother's grave that Dixie Carter said those words. And I responded to her by saying that will never happen if Vince Rousseau is involved, but if you ever get rid of him, call me back and I'd be glad to work with everybody else. So I just wanted to give her a chance, see if she would actually be honest. And Terry Taylor, who knew what was going on.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And see, this thing I got cranky with Terry, more I thought about it, even weeks later, because he knew what was going on and just sat there and didn't say anything. Well, that's it. So, anyway, at that point, for once I knew, well, I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't, you know, take the baseball bat to anybody or anything or whatever the fuck. And Jeff's gone. Dutch is gone. It's fucking, it's, the cause is lost.
Starting point is 00:50:53 This guy shows no signs of going anywhere. I didn't know Hogan was going to come in and fucking start fucking with him, you know, months later. But as it, I'm driving to fucking. Florida and back 20 times a year and sweating my balls off in that goddamn place and eating that fucking double tree room service till I could smell it in my sleep and just trying to counteract the fucking damage that this goof was doing with what he was writing on the show that we were trying to fix. So I was like, I've spent three again, Jeff, I was mad at Jeff for a while, because I quit three years ago.
Starting point is 00:51:39 We could have saved all this. But anyway, I was all right. It's no fun anymore. The cause is lost and come to find out they never would be as successful as they had been that previous couple years to this day. But then, boom, phone calls open. It wasn't fucking two hours. The news was on the internet that I'd been fired.
Starting point is 00:52:07 and Brian, guess where from? I don't know. The Sun newspaper in England. They had, when they'd done some of those shows, because they could draw in England when they first went, like 2007 or eight or whatever, right? They drew decent houses. Somebody with the sun and their online arm
Starting point is 00:52:31 started doing wrestling coverage, and they had some, it was, he was a stooge for the, a T&A office, somebody in it, wonder who, more on this in a minute, and would print stuff for them, you know, and publicize their shit, fine. Terry Taylor calls me within two hours, they know about it
Starting point is 00:52:54 in fucking England and it's on their goddamn website. They've already been able to write it up. I'm like, what the fuck? And again, this is 2009. I know everything's instantaneous now, but there was no Twitter. And besides that, we had a private phone conversation
Starting point is 00:53:09 with me and Terry and Dixie, right? And just within instantly. And all right, these fucking, but it was just the news that I'd been released. And then I can't remember how it was, honestly, how long it was, but not too long after that,
Starting point is 00:53:31 that the story came out, what really happened, that I had been fired for, Blowing up at Vince Rousseau in a production meeting and screaming at him and acting unprofessionally. Do you remember the story, Brian, when it came out, right? But anyway, yes, the sun, and people can look it up online that I was screaming about, why are we pushing Eric Young? The whole deal with the match was Sting and Hernandez.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I covered it in the AGE report to production meeting where Vince had booked these two top baby faces against each other. He broke and stings ribs with rhinos. gore, the heels are going to interfere. Sting is going to roll Hernandez up and beat him. I said it backwards the other way around last week, whatever, but this whole goddamn gaga thing, I'd talk to him in the car on the way down on the cell phone for the only time ever. We can't do this.
Starting point is 00:54:28 It's going to bury these guys and blah, blah, blah. Let's do this and that. We worked out a change. I go there Monday. They've changed it back. We have the production meeting. I fucking argue with them and they change it back again. All the agents, Terry Taylor, Vince Rousseau, everybody sitting in the goddamn room.
Starting point is 00:54:47 We're supposed to present a united front to the talent after what we decide in the production meeting, Brian. And the creative team has to go out and then everybody presents a united front. So we decided what we're going to do at the meeting and we went out and that's what we did. and I sent the agent report and everybody said, right, right. Awesome, awesome, awesome. Then they call me a fire me. Then it's on the internet that they fire me within hours. Then shortly after I've blown up at goddamn Russo
Starting point is 00:55:19 because they had to come up with a story people would believe because it's entirely believable that I would scream and yell and threaten Vince Russo. And the specific match, why are we pushing Eric Young, which I didn't say. I said, I said, why are we pushing Eric Young into the middle of this thing? Because he's going to lay both of our top guys out with a baseball bat and stand over and walk cutting one of his promos,
Starting point is 00:55:47 had a goddamn snail's pace. But nevertheless. So now it's all, oh, now, and I, so, I fucking write Terry Taylor a letter. Because now I realize that. that they've had to come up because they couldn't just come out and say, and I didn't even know truthfully. Oh, and one more thing I didn't know, but they had to come up with something to say rather than, well, we fired Cord-Ed because he was fixing Russo shit and doing his job too good.
Starting point is 00:56:22 So they had to come up with a reason because then the heat would go on dip shit. but also something that I did not know was about to happen that happened right after that. And people would have again said, oh, now we understand why they fired Cornette. So they had to give the people a reason why they fired me, well, they just couldn't put up with it anymore before this thing happened, which that's when they announced that Ed Ferrara would be working the next set of tapings as shitstain's assistant. Someone who would be 100% on board with the creative.
Starting point is 00:57:04 100% on board with the creative. So actually I've got two letters here to Terry. And one of them is before that I heard about Ed Ferrara. And one of them is afterwards because, well, you'll see why. So basically, and this is somewhere between September, yeah, I wrote this September 18th, and then Terry Taylor got back to me on the 22nd after the weekend, and then I wrote him back the same goddamn day. But anyhow, this is the letter that I wrote him after they'd fired me,
Starting point is 00:57:49 but also after the news it broke on the internet and after the, the story had come out on the internet that they fired me because I blew up and screamed to everybody, right? Where I'm still trying to be nice because at this point, I'm not really that mad at Terry Taylor. That would simmer over time as he became more of a feckless stooge that just sat back and did nothing. Terry, the events of this past week have caused me quite a few problems on the internet and elsewhere, and I would like to ask for your assistance. At the last TV tapings, I did my job as usual and received nothing but praise. I was not told anyone saw our finish meeting as anything unusual and you yourself have said nothing unprofessional
Starting point is 00:58:38 occurred. I filed my agent report covering everything I did on both taping days, including the meeting, and you emailed me it was a great report. Seven days later, you called to release me saying the company felt I wasn't 100% behind TNA's direction. This the same thing Dixie said when I spoke to her Wednesday morning. Both calls were handled professionally by both sides. Dixie explained if I'm not 100% behind creatives direction, it could hamper my ability to do my job. I explained I've always been 100% behind T&A, but I can never be 100% behind Vince Rousseau. We ended our conversation amicably with her saying the door is always open if I can get behind it all the way. And me saying I'd love to return sometime
Starting point is 00:59:25 if the situation changes. Within two hours after I was released, someone in the office had leaked it to the internet. When I talked to you, Wednesday you said it was a problem and you were trying to get to the bottom of it. But later Wednesday, okay, there's our timeline. It spread all over the internet that I was fired for being unprofessional,
Starting point is 00:59:48 throwing a tantrum and screaming at Vince Rousseau, complete with a made-up scenario of what happened in our finish meeting in question. You know as well as I do this never happened, but where could the basis of this fable come from if not someone in the room? Because think about this, Brian. There's, I don't know exactly how many and who,
Starting point is 01:00:11 but it was the agents, me, Rousseau, Terry Taylor. Let's say there's seven people in the room, eight people, six, but whatever. Where is this specific false story going to be when nobody else it wasn't a public meeting somebody had to tell the story we were in a meeting where Corned did this and that and the other fucking thing it had to come from somebody in the room telling somebody else that that's what happened correct is there another way around it when nobody else knew we were in
Starting point is 01:00:46 there it would have to come from that room and it would have to come from someone with a source at the sun or a son at the source so I continue. I've not made any detrimental statements about TNA or even commented publicly. I asked you yesterday morning if TNA or Dixie could issue a statement contradicting these rumors that there was no unprofessional conduct or blowups and I was released due to differences in creative direction. And you said you didn't think she'd have a problem with it. This was on a phone call.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It's now Friday at 3 p.m. and I've heard or seen nothing, but the same blow-up stories are being, because it was on every copy and paste website of the time at that point. So I said, I've worked hard for T&A for three years. I don't understand why this is being handled in this manner. I'm not asking for my job back. I'm asking for a truthful statement from T&A of why I was released.
Starting point is 01:01:45 There were no blow-ups or unprofessional conduct. You've had time to FedEx me a termination. letter, but I've yet to see one public statement from T&A that we parted amicably, which was my understanding. Then I said, Stace and I are going away for the weekend, because it was my birthday, or the weekend after my birthday is mad. No, it was my birthday weekend. Well, I was, no. My birthday was Thursday. This was Friday the 18th, and we were going somewhere for the weekend. Anyway, I said, when I return on Monday, I'm going to have to address this publicly and rebut the internet stories. I would like to do this in as little detail as possible and move on, but it's hard to do when I'm the only one defending me.
Starting point is 01:02:35 So anyway, finally, I'd appreciate it if by Monday afternoon you or Dixie could email me a statement from T&A concerning my release that I can quote from or distribute that illustrates these rumors or false and attributes our amicable parting to creative difference. And I will not denigrate TNA and I won't attack Rousseau. But I don't appreciate being painted in this light. If I don't have something on Monday, I'll have to start defending my reputation as best I can. I know if we truly did have an amicable parting, I don't want to spoil it, but I need some cooperation with TNA. I know it's pay-per-view weekend.
Starting point is 01:03:16 two paragraphs wouldn't take long, right? So could I have been any nicer, do you think? You're bending over backwards to not blow up. And you've seen me. I always try so hard that when I finally do, I just let it go too far and it goes too far. So anyway, here is an email that I got on Tuesday morning,
Starting point is 01:03:46 he wrote it Tuesday at 248 a.m. on September 22nd, 2009. This is from Terry Taylor. Hope your weekend went well. We forwarded the UK Sun article with the retraction and accurate story. Is this what you were looking for? We're hoping that in the future we'll be able to work together again. Please let us know if there's anything else you'd like from us. and what they forwarded was a UK Sun article in the same wrestling column.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Brian, the story that was told that I was a complete bad shit nut and screaming at people was quoted from an industry insider. That was the attribution on the quote from, you know, the industry insider on what I did that was unprofessional. after plainly stating that I wanted a statement from Dixie and that Terry Taylor said she wouldn't have any problem with it, et cetera, et cetera, you know who was quoted as saying, no, everything was fine and nothing happened?
Starting point is 01:05:06 A TNA source. Oh, a T&A source says the story we had wasn't true. Nothing happened. You motherfuckers. So I wrote Terry back. When he asked, is this what you were looking? for Terry actually no that's not what I was looking for an industry insider told the son I was a raving lunatic and a TNA source told him I wasn't with no other explanation of why I got fired
Starting point is 01:05:37 if the door is always open people have to be asking why I got fired the first place there's nobody in the entire company with the balls to just come out and say we picked rusa and ferrara over cornet but corned did nothing wrong because over the weekend that was the taping in the paper view, that's when fucking shit Ed showed up. Ed dreadlock Ferrara, possibly still was some of my spittle running down his fucking cheek. Couldn't miss that fucking cheek anyway on that fat face.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Nevertheless, I go back to my letter to Terry Taylor. I said, is there anybody with the company, the balls with the company, to just come out and say it and actually put their name on it? Is there a reason you couldn't have just called me and said, and given me the chance to quit without the embarrassment of being fired for no other reason.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I now know that the TNA personnel planted both stories with the sun, so I have to assume the unattributed retraction was sent just because the email I sent you, and if I hadn't complained, that would have been the end of it, and you'd have just left me hung out to dry with people slandering me on the Internet. Because think about that, when I come back again from the weekend,
Starting point is 01:06:50 and not only am I expecting some kind of somebody, even Andy Barton saying, no, we loved working with Jim, but instead I get the unnamed TNA source, and now they let me know because she didn't know. And Terry Taylor didn't bother to tell me on like Wednesday that Ed Farrar was going to be there Saturday or Sunday. and the only reason, obviously, he said, I'm not going to be around Corvette.
Starting point is 01:07:25 The last time I was, he's spitting my face and cussed me out. And Rousseau had sold her, oh, I need help, I need help. No, a five-year-old child could do the shows he was doing. All the rest of us needed help because of him, but he's the one that needed the help. But if Terry had called me, it said, Ferrar is coming. He knew I would say, you know what, check please. Jeff's gone, Dutch is gone.
Starting point is 01:07:50 on how to put up with this fucking guy at a Ferrari, no, no. I tried to do this three years ago. You wouldn't let me. See ya. But they got to orchestrate this whole fucking thing. So, I'll continue.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And by the way, I go back to Lance Storm's comment at the time, trading cornet for Ferrara on a wrestling show is like trading your house for a tent. I continue on the fact is I was let go not only because Rousseau knew I was a threat to his job
Starting point is 01:08:26 because I illustrated at every taping that he doesn't know what he's doing, but also because he somehow convinced Dixie that Ed Ferrara is in some unknown way of benefit to a wrestling company. That's T&A's decision, and as I said, if I'd been offered the opportunity to step aside, I would have, without having to slander the company. I offered to do that for Jeff three years ago when he hired the guy. instead you've made me a heel on the worldwide web the only regret i have about my tenure in t and a is promising dutch and jeff that i would coexist with the guy because i knew then how it would turn out i just didn't know how long it would take and then basically yeah i hope we'll be able to
Starting point is 01:09:06 work together again because i still wasn't mad completely at him at the time and i was frustrated because everybody deserved more than what they're getting there. Because that's when I had to, okay, here's what goddamn happened. And started explaining people what goddamn happened. And then Roussa, or Ferrara lasted what, three months, maybe. He quit and went back to whatever hole under whatever rock he occupies in the real world. And by that point, Hogan was fixing to fucking run Russo off.
Starting point is 01:09:45 And then he got got so toxic, they had to hire him under the table. And the whole thing was a goddamn, what, four or five, six years of high school drama. When did it come out that, you know, I'm forgetting now how it emerged, the email where Russo sent to Dixie, was it before this or was it after this?
Starting point is 01:10:06 No, that was after in one of the lawsuits. That was a few years after that. There was a lawsuit. I can't remember which one it was or who was suing, but some of the emails came out where, you know, he said, oh, well, Cornette looks like this and that. And, boy, we ought to have some hot chick or whatever. And Jeff is to this and that and too wrestling.
Starting point is 01:10:27 He was, from the time he got there, he just stabbed everybody in the back by going to the gullible leader who didn't know what they were doing. But the, you know, and still, that's the thing I know this will sound strange to some people because I'm the one who tells my own stories about when I've committed mayhem on people
Starting point is 01:10:52 and taking a bat to shit right because they're true and I have people know about them so at least I'm going to tell you what happened does anybody out there think that I would be denying that I screamed and yelled and threatened at Vince Russo and had a meltdown if I actually did the only time I didn't is they accuse me of it to make me the heel so that they could get by with their
Starting point is 01:11:16 fucking little scheme. And then it was a couple months later that I wrote the famous letter that got me letters from their lawyer and I've got on paper that Rousseau is in fear of his life for me for the first time. I mean, that was the first two. But they said I violated confidentiality clause. so I had it up on my website for a couple of years.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Their lawyer's letter, the letter I wrote threatening, allegedly they said Rousseau's life to Terry Stoge test. I was going, trying to find shit on my new email thingy. I saw that Terry now it's sunk in for three or four months. That weasel didn't say a goddamn word. He was in on it. He knew all along, wouldn't even tell me as a friend. you know, that the guy was coming or what they were doing.
Starting point is 01:12:15 And so I wrote him the Stoge test, the letter telling him what I really wanted to do to Vince Rousseau. And that's when he forwarded it to Rousseau and their lawyers. And they sent me the letter back from their attorney, who was an entertainment attorney, telling me that they'd reported me to the FBI? Oh, Christ. You, at some point years later, I want to say, remember, I think, was before the podcast, always before I was doing it with you. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Starting point is 01:12:47 You made up with Terry Taylor at some point, didn't you? I think I've talked to him a time or two. I believe this was again, it had to be 10 years ago or whatever. I believe I've seen him and talked to him, but he was still a weasel in this instance. But like Oly would have said, so many other weasels have come along and pissed me off so much worse. I don't think ill about Terry anymore that much. he was a great fucking worker
Starting point is 01:13:13 wonderful wrestler I'd I'd known him at that point for 29 years at that point that was 15 years ago did he get these jobs because he looked clean cut like he looked like an executive or that he had any executive skill or talent
Starting point is 01:13:33 or you know he just had the right friends no he's very intelligent he was very well spoken he does look nice and clean cut and he was diligent. He knew the wrestling business, but he was a good person for an office position where he would take instruction well as a good employee.
Starting point is 01:13:53 He was not a person who was going to pound the desk or stand up for anything or lead anyone in a certain direction or be the head of booking or the head of whatever, but he was a polite employee. But a weasel. But a weasel, yes. but not a thieving weasel like we sometimes talk about weasels. But, you know, to the best of your knowledge, all these years later,
Starting point is 01:14:20 and obviously we don't know about Dixie, how many of these people have fallen out with Rousseau? Like Jeff and Rousseau aren't. Are they cool or are they not cool? Oh, I mean, I don't think they'd start punching each other in a face, but I don't think they speak and I don't think Jeff misses it. No, with Terry, I think he and Rousseau bonded over the God Duluth. because I don't know what happened to Terry because when I knew him in the 80s,
Starting point is 01:14:47 what Dundee said it best. Terry Taylor, if somebody cracked your head-open little pussies would fall out of it. And but then suddenly they're riding in the same car and they're having prayer meetings and they're doing the whole thing. And I mean, Rousse, maybe Terry is genuine about it. Rousseau can't be genuine about anything. It's just genetically incapable. but whether he was, you know, genuine about it or not,
Starting point is 01:15:14 if one would think that a religion that's trying to show you the way to live would keep fucking assholes and goddamn leeches out of your car. But there they'd be. So I think they bonded over that. And obviously, as it would bear out, you were the problem in T&A. Everything got better. Everything got better.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Everyone got on the same page, and it really changed the company's, trajectory. Yes, they were on the same page as soon as the big wrestling star that had sued the fucking head of creative the last time they were together came in two months later. Well, things were peachy keen from that point on. Oh, fuck. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:15:59 They had a graceful way out with me. And that's the thing. That's another thing I was mad about. Terry, because Dutch knew, but he was gone. Jeff knew, but he was gone. on. Terry had known me for a long time. He should have known and told him, if we tell him Ferrar is coming, he'll just quit and he won't show up. Or if we tell him Hogan and Bischoff are coming, he'll just quit and he won't show up. And we don't have to slander anybody.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Because I was about fucking, I was fed up with it anyway, but I said, God damn it, it became a, you know me when I get a grudge I've driven to fucking Florida 60 times over the last three years and I've sweated and I've worked on this fucking thing. Plus as an on-camera management director and all this other stuff I've done,
Starting point is 01:16:53 I'll be goddamn if I'm going to quit now. I get outlast this, son of a bitch. Sooner or later he'll just have a stroke. It was something. So that's the only, I was like, I did this for three years for nothing. We ended up in the same place. I could have gone home three years ago when Jeff wouldn't let me.
Starting point is 01:17:12 And I'd have saved three years of eating and gaining weight. That's what I was pissed about. And then Hogan comes into the last image of Hogan on T&A was him like walking out on the ramp while Dixie was holding onto his leg. Yes, and he was dragging her. Please don't go, Hulk. Please don't. I fuck you, you trailer trash.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I'm leaving you. Oh, Christ. Well, anyway. Well, obviously, Jim will be honored this year at Slammiversary, entering the TNA Hall of Fame. Yes. In the email category, Jim Quirner. Best emails of the year. Well, you know, hey, back in the old days when they taught the guys in the wrestling business, don't write shit down.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It can't come back to bite you. It won't expose the business. Well, see, you want to be to write shit. I just did as I was requested. you should just sent everyone that email that Terry Taylor sent you. Great, excellent! Exclamation points! Well, wait a minute, hold on.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I dropped the thing here. Hold on. Let me just see here. Wait, oh. Oh. I threw it down. Oh! You know, when he sent the report to who does say?
Starting point is 01:18:32 Who was on there? Dixie Russo. He brought ahead, Andy Barton, Dixie Russo, Matt Conway. He sent the report to all of them, but where he said, awesome, awesome, phenomenal. Thank you for your insight, hard work, and passion. We need to hear these things. He only sent that to me. Ah, politician.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Ah. My favorite, I'll say this again just because we're painting him in a bad light for his own behavior. I was at Terry Taylor's like return in 1992 to the WWF, the Meadowlands. It's the opening match of the card, I think. and he gets in the ring and he's now terrific Terry Taylor and he gets in the ring I can't explain it other than he gives that
Starting point is 01:19:18 like Terry Taylor arrogant face that must have gotten to Vince to get the gimmick and he just goes to himself I'm back and you hear right away from the crowd as soon as he said I'm back it's one of the funniest things I've ever witnessed live I'm back
Starting point is 01:19:38 would you like a thigh a leg, a breast. A wing. A wing. All right, but you know, so then, basically, Brian, I'd been excommunicated from T&A. I'd been fired.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I'd been left unemployed. I needed work. For the sake of this, we'll overlook the fact that I started with Ring of Honor like 11 days later. And I was all of her climped. What was I going to do? If only I had had,
Starting point is 01:20:06 then what the people have access to now and that's the wonders. That's the wonders that can be performed for your home-based business that wants to spread out worldwide when you do business with Shopify. Folks, I'll tell you what right now, you may just have a dream of starting your own crumpet business where you bake the crumpets and you frost the crumpets and you you decorate the crumpets. But how are you going to sell them goddamn crumpets? You need a website. You need product descriptions, you need product photography, you need an online store, a platform, you need a marketing team behind you. Those crumpets ain't going to sell themselves.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Let's say you're a bugle maker. You think that bugle's going to blow itself? It is not, somebody's going to have to do the honking. And our favorite honkeys over at Shopify can do all of that stuff because they're your commerce expert with world-class expertise and everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns, they'll ship it internationally. If it gets sent back, they'll send it again. They'll keep sending that shit until somebody takes it. They're literally going to go from door to door and try to make people buy whatever
Starting point is 01:21:26 the fuck it is you're selling in the way of crumpets or bugles. And potentially, if you were to stick a crumpet in a bugle and blow real hard, then that could be deadly pastry. You could get brain damage. I don't know any. I'm just thinking about in some of the countries like Switzerland, that could be some method of warfare because they're neutral. But if you were just blowing a crumpet out of a bugle at somebody,
Starting point is 01:21:52 would that be considered violent? I'm not exactly. An interesting concept, not necessarily one that has to do with the wonderful abilities and skills that Shopify brings to you and your businesses. We use Shopify for our online store for Arcadian vanguard.com to bring you fine drive-thru t-shirts. and you can use them as well.
Starting point is 01:22:11 What about the experienced shirts? When are those coming? You've got to say when. When? And it'll be on Shopify. Well, you've got to say when and also give me some notice and artwork and then. You say when and then I'll say then. Well, all right then.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And Shopify is going to be selling them because Shopify, if you want to sell your bugles, crumpets or t-shirts, is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world, 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States is connected up to Shopify, they're spreading. The tentacles are growing around the world, gripping the competitors tightly, and said, did you hear Shopify is going to just,
Starting point is 01:22:52 they're going to buy Amazon next week? Did you hear about it? Go out and buy. Let's not say that. That's not true. Well, no, you need to go out and buy 100,000 or so shares of the Shopify stock. I don't know if they have stock.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I don't even know if they're listed. Let's not tell people. They don't have to do any of this. What you've got to do is sell your goods with Shopify. You mean they're not a public company? I thought they had it right out there in front of the open window with the curtains wide open where you could see it. Well, boy, I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 01:23:23 I want to invest in Shopify, and I can do that by giving them my business. Because they will give in, turn around and give me the business. And then there you go. You can turn your big business idea into, oh, where's that sound effect? Brian. Watch that kid on a bicycle. Give me the, oh, that was it. That's right. That's what you're going to hear is the ringing sound of bells ringing, syndicating sales made. That's a sales bell.
Starting point is 01:23:54 It was a bell made specifically for sales, and that's what you're going to get. When you go to Shopify and turn your big business idea into Chechings, sign up for your $1 a month trial period right now and start selling today at Shopify.com slash JCE. That's slash JCE. That's how you get the $1 a month trial period. Otherwise, they're going to say, well, fuck you. Who do you think you are asking for services from us for only a dollar? We're a big international multi-conglomerate.
Starting point is 01:24:28 But if you know me, you get a dollar a month trial period. And then you can start selling today. Well, if you've got the idea and the pictures and the whole thing and you get a hold of them you might make it today, but I'd shoot for Tuesday. Shopify.com slash JCE to make all that. Chiching, money. All righty, well, before we move along, we are going to have another cast media update next week
Starting point is 01:24:59 on the program for the folks, on one of the programs. We're coming up on Saturday night's main event and the stadium in Texas and all that stuff. but next week on one of the programs, we'll have the cast update. We may have to do a podcast one update, too, as a part of one of these because, you know, they're doing what every business does when things are going really well. They're doubling down on their crypto involvement. So we'll have more about this at a later installment.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Do we know where their stock is at these days? Have we checked that lately? I don't think it's left home. I don't think it's left where it's been. Maybe their stock all has dysentery and hoof and mouth disease. That's what the problem is. Well, Warren Buffin has always said, if the stock's not moving, go to crypto. We'll see what happens here.
Starting point is 01:25:47 More to come. Well, speaking of collapsing businesses and failing enterprises, you want to go to AEW now? For the big AEW 300 episode? You know, there have been 7,500 episodes, I bet, of Meet the Press. I'm not sure anybody wants to go back and watch more than one or two up. but they were in Ontario, California, right up the road from Kukamonga. So the Buccane's got to go and actually do a little travel log for us. But somebody on Twitter, Brian, put up the numbers and I lost it, I couldn't find it again.
Starting point is 01:26:29 So the data is there if you'd like to search for it anyone. but it was a comparison of the viewership of A.W 100, 200, and 300. And I know we're going to do the ratings for this one later on, but they started at a million plus for 100, and they were still at 800,000 plus for 200. And I bet you they didn't make 800,000 for 300. I'll put that money down right now. We'll talk about it later.
Starting point is 01:27:05 No, and there's been like this argument that, you know, AEW's up. The numbers are up. Tony just said it in Cannes, and Dave Meltzer said it. That if you look at it... He said it in the can? Well, I think then they try to say that if you look at it year over year, they're up. And then people like, wait a minute. That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:27:20 But specifically the example I saw the other day was, if you look at the fourth quarter of 2024 versus the second quarter of 2025, there are parts that are up. Okay. It's nonsensical. And I know some people are, well, but they're on the max. They're on the max. They weren't on the max between 100 and 200 when they lost a couple of hundred thousand. So we'll see where the max leads them now.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Anyway, the opening contest, actually not a contest, the opening segment, it was a contest between my eyes as to whether I could keep them open or not. was hangnail page coming to the ring and doing his promo about the big AEW world title match and his chance of Dick the Boozer and he had his stink face on as usual, but he had some conviction to this. He called it the AEW men's world championship again.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Again, is such odd terminology that nobody else says, do we think he's going for Mercedes? 80s until we realize it's the men's title he's talking about? Is he confused somehow as to which one he should be going for? But anyway, while I thought that this was still kind of memorized overly dramatic material that he comes up with in his head, he gave it more oomph than normal, he didn't fumfer. and as I said, he had some conviction in his voice, so it wasn't bad, and he wants to make it a Texas death match at all in.
Starting point is 01:29:14 It's the first match they've had. Is it, I get, did they wrestle each other a few years back, whatever? This is the big, why do they need to make this match, the ultimate blow-off match? I don't, not like I want to see it again either, but you see what I'm saying, Brian. Yeah. Can't they just have a fucking match?
Starting point is 01:29:38 But even if you did want to make it that, I think there needed to be more reasoning for it to be a Texas death match other than, I've decided it should be this. Well, they're in Texas. So what else could it be? So he wants to make it a Texas death match. Well, then here comes Dick the Boozer and Marina Schaefer,
Starting point is 01:30:01 and they stagger on through the crowd and they get the ring or into the race. and at least Moxley does. Every time he gets in the ring, he brings the energy level down some way, doesn't he? Because he's feeling like he's being so intense because he's so into this character that nobody understands, nobody gives a shit about,
Starting point is 01:30:26 and he's a wannabe tough guy, but he's so into it that he thinks he can take the dramatic pause, or the verbal meanderings around the fucking mulberry bush and everybody's going to hang on it i guess because that's the way he's acting but in the meantime he never fucking says anything that he says a lot but if you write it down and try to figure it out afterwards and he says page won't win because he doesn't want to win there's too much pressure you can't handle that you really don't you want to you want the secondary title.
Starting point is 01:31:07 And the fans were chatting shut the fuck up. I think they meant it. And then he wants to take a joust, I guess, that apparently Moxley's still butt hurt at Punk's existence. I don't know what else could have cut. Because Punk, has he had the occasion to speak of Moxley? Or did Moxley just throw it in? People call themselves the best in the world.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Well, that's basic bitch shit. I'm so much more than that. What? You're not even that. It's weird because you could tell it was a forced line, and it was one that he thought about, and he had the line ready, but then he kind of stumbled out of it.
Starting point is 01:31:49 It was the only time he was the promo. He gave it, and then he started to try to get back into his promo, and he flumpered, because maybe he was just proud of himself. But besides the fact that verbally, he's throwing rocks at a man with a machine gun, what is the purpose otherwise than they're just still
Starting point is 01:32:11 butt hurt that the guy that could draw him some ratings left anyway he rambled for a while and he strained like he was constipated and then he told Page that a Texas death match would be the end of him and then page gave him a pissy girl slap that didn't look even as good as the girl
Starting point is 01:32:37 that actually slapped Paige here in a minute, but he slaps Moxley. Moxley staggers and sells that and then double legs him and they have a fight. And O. Wheeler comes in and Nails Paige and Schaefer comes in and that's when she slapped him harder than Paige slapped Moxley and then twice and then three.
Starting point is 01:33:03 three, four, and five times. And then Paige just stood there like, I really want to do something to you. Claudio came in. They tackled Paige. They got some sloppy and stationary heat on him, ripped his clothes off, gave him a big pedigree, and left him laying in the ring, right?
Starting point is 01:33:24 And they walk out. And then Paige gets back up and gets the microphone. Is that the best you can do? Have you had enough? yet do you want some more i used to do that as a heel line for the manager to get his heat back i'd get up off my face blown up having had the shit kicked out of me as have you had enough yet so that claudio goes back but samoa joe is there at ringside to block him off and then hobbs joins joe but marina shaffer comes in and swings the case at page the page grabs it and then he tells moxley to okay
Starting point is 01:34:03 the Texas death match. And I'm like, this is fucking endless. And Moxley says, okay, because now he's pissed and he leaves. And then Paige talks more. And Marina Schaefer is obviously standing in the ring for no reason all her
Starting point is 01:34:19 people have left. She's got her back turned to Paige and she's not moving. And then Paige says, oh, I forgot one thing. And jumps over the top and she turns around and he buckshot lariatts her. And that gets a big pop. because she's been doing all this shit to the guys for so long. Yes, anybody gets their hands on her.
Starting point is 01:34:40 That's wrestling 101. But now have we established that we can have a 230-pound guy, buckshot lariat, a woman on national cable television. This is the same network that sent us a memo in WCW 35 years ago about gratuitous violence on the gratuitous violence program. You weren't about to use the term foreign object. That's where the term international object came from. But so Marina got buckshotted and they're going to have a Texas death match at all this.
Starting point is 01:35:17 What else can Moxley do? He can't be constrained by the rules of an athletic endeavor. Elsewise, a Home Depot guy chokes him out in a two-man jujitsu tournament. If that's the last match of the night, too, they're going to have the crowd all burned up by the time they even and get to it. Well, they could put it on early. Actually, you know what? How about this?
Starting point is 01:35:41 I'm going to give right now Tony Conn, because he's got the budget, he can do anything, have two rings. And in one ring, have the Texas death match and have it go 62 falls and last for four hours and 15 minutes. In the ring next to it,
Starting point is 01:35:59 have the rest of the goddamn show at the same time. And it could be the first time that one match lasted longer than an entire card, but you don't have to keep the people there for nine hours. What do you think? Man, that, that Moxley promo was nonsensical. He's coming out there, the big bad heel, his issue of page is that he doesn't want it bad enough. He's like, you're not bad. The guy burned another guy's fucking house down on TV.
Starting point is 01:36:28 And he's about to close-law in your valet. So, I mean, the argument, it was just ridiculous. of all the issues to raise. He's a blood drinker for God's sake. Of all the issues to raise. That was the one Moxley went with? The whole, I want you to be better. You have to want it more.
Starting point is 01:36:44 You have to, you're happy. What the fuck. What an idiot. So I can't wait for that contest there at the big paper view. A.W has really been pushing it with the violence, with the action from men and women. They were teasing it with Willow and Will or Yuda. I think Moxley did something to Willow.
Starting point is 01:37:02 this was his this was the baby face giving his finisher it wasn't like oh someone got out of the way no he intended to do it it's a very interesting strategy well but here and it got a pop
Starting point is 01:37:14 here's the thing they're they're probably safe with this because anybody watching this program now it knows what they're watching and doesn't give a shit because it's all wrestling and it's the silly phony wrestling crowd
Starting point is 01:37:29 and they every wrestling crowd will pop on the heel valet getting a shit knocked out of her if she's got it coming because she's done all these things but nobody's going to call the goddamn network out of this crowd nobody no no no innocent bystanders are watching this program at this point so it's it's hard to think that anything they do will offend the people that are watching because they already know if if the fucking presentation of the wrestling doesn't offend them probably nothing else is going to That's my belief.
Starting point is 01:38:03 But sooner or later, the guy from Bristol Myers or fucking Campbell's Soup or whatever the fuck is going to go accidentally see something and go, what the hell is going on? See, that's the thing. It's one thing the AEW fans accepting it
Starting point is 01:38:22 and you have to wonder if they would accept it if it was on the other show. But if WWE did something where Seth Rollins gave a curb stop to Rio Ripley, would sponsors speak up? Would fans be an outrage? More sponsors than fans, they don't want to chance it. Because with a lot of these big corporations paying millions of dollars, you can't just,
Starting point is 01:38:42 well, I'm sorry we won't do it again. Well, you know, we had second thoughts about this whole thing to begin with, this crazy fucking shit you people do. So, but anyway, you know what? Here's the thing, though, instead of just doing it for free, you could have goddamn work to deal where to that's the first time anybody's really gotten marina so you could have worked a deal where so-and-so beats moxley he also he gets five minutes with marina and people would pay to see that it in fucking clothesliner and knock her silly it just oh here on TV for free
Starting point is 01:39:23 right before we go boom let's get the first baby face shot at the girl that's beat up every man on the rust. See, I think they can get away with that because it was a spontaneous, but it was something that kind of happened in the moment. If they actually had it as a stipulation for a match, I think that's where people would probably... No, then it's on pay-per-view. No, people would say that's a step too far, I think. Oh, good God. I do. I think that, yeah. If he did the same exact thing, I'm not saying beat her up for five minutes and then give it to her, I'm saying, just do the same thing on pay-per-view with the people knowing that there's a tease, there's a chance that he's going to get his hands on
Starting point is 01:40:00 Marina Schaefer and make her pay for all that stuff and then do the same goddamn thing. One buckshot, boom. And there you go. I think it would be a draw if you could do it. But if you did it, the outcry would be that would be too much, I think. Oh, good Lord. All right. Well, you know what's too much on my outcry?
Starting point is 01:40:19 Mina Melons versus Mercedes Moon. The very first match. And it seemed to go forever. on fast forward. And of course, Tony Storm and her butler Loopy or whatever his name is, we're at ringside. And Mercedes won with a sloppy small package from the wrong side.
Starting point is 01:40:44 So she managed to get a double there. Two different, how can you fuck up goddamn small package two different ways in the same small package? And then Mercedes hit Mina again. And Brian, did you notice? Well, I don't even know whether you watched this, but Mercedes goes back and attacks Mina while she's down and the male referee got scared and jumped out of the ring in fear.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Oh shit! Did you see that? I actually did not notice that, no. I did. It was like, again, it was like fucking Abdullah the butcher had come with a goddamn saber from behind. Oh, shit, he dove out. Like, I don't want to get in the middle of this.
Starting point is 01:41:28 It's too much for me. what the fuck so then storm came in to help mina up after mercedes had hit her and then mercedes came from behind tony storm and hit her in the back of the head with the belt and then got out there and got tony champagne and threw it in luther's face
Starting point is 01:41:51 and he stood there useless and she left so now he's he's tony storm's butler but this chick has just whacked Tony Storm in the back of the head with a 20-pound title belt and come down and start fingering Tony Storm's dinner and drinking her champagne right in front of him. He ain't going to say boo to her, then she throws the shit in his face and it walks off. So what good is he? Did you like the comedy travelogue video of the Hardley Boys and the limo full of sneakers,
Starting point is 01:42:28 riding around their hometown going back to their grade school? which by the way two things number one it had to be a day school wasn't in session because if they'd have seen Matt and Nick Jackson in the fucking school grounds they'd have put them back in class where they belong at the grade school and secondly and most importantly for heaven's sake I still need some type of proof that they graduated grammar school I'm not just I think they need to show us their papers
Starting point is 01:42:59 does anybody think these videos or any good where they're just making smarmy remarks to each other to amuse each other and they've wasted money for a camera crew to go out and shoot them driving around in a limousine that Tony rented and do nothing entertaining a camera crew nothing and cutler there was there was no there was no point to this they didn't even pay it off with anything it was just them them you know there's a reason people stopped watching their show before they stopped doing it on YouTube. But that was the thing that kind of put them a little bit over the top with their fan base was doing the same kind of smarmy, douchey, not good comedy, not good entertainment shows
Starting point is 01:43:50 or videos like they just did there. It's terrible. They entertained themselves if they weren't on this show. The whole founding fathers EVP things, you know, all that shit is getting pushed now because of all the pushback of how they don't mean anything, and they mean nothing. It's just bad stuff with these guys. Well, we'll get to the big stipulation in a second,
Starting point is 01:44:15 see if we can unravel that, but we had to go through, so now we've established, apparently they've established, that MJF and the Hurt Syndicate are the only stars in the company. Because they have to, whatever they go out, the segment never ends. The segment never ends, baby. The view never changes.
Starting point is 01:44:38 It goes on and on. They keep introducing more and more people into a segment to give them some kind of rub. I don't know what is happening here, but it never ended. And they started with the four-way match for the number two spot in the all-in casino gauntlet match for a guaranteed shot at the world title.
Starting point is 01:45:07 So they could advertise MJF wrestling this week. MJF versus AR Fox versus Anthony Bowens versus Brody King. Is it just they think you can put anybody in a match and it doesn't matter or are these? Is there no one on the roster that people will buy as actually being a threat to the world title? And so they got to put just three filler guys in this with MJF, who isn't Merlin the magician. But they started, when they started the match, MJF went to color and got on the microphone,
Starting point is 01:45:54 or on the headset, and he's, I'm going to let the idiots kill each other. And I'm almost thinking that they were trying to get out of Tony Kahn's book like I would try to fix Rousseau's where like if MJF is in this, it's no DQ, it's no count out, go to the desk and talk. Let them do shit. They're trying to make the most out of this
Starting point is 01:46:16 that they can. But then finally he had to get in and start doing some shit back and forth with these fuggins. Did you see A.R. Fox try to flip over the ropes to land on who's he, what's he? The other guy. And he got hung up and flipped himself back
Starting point is 01:46:34 into the ring accidentally. Was it accidentally, or is that kind of his thing? He just flips for no reason. Well, no, he flipped. He landed on his feet back in the ring, but he intended to, he didn't mean to, though. He was trying to go out of the ring. So once he realized he was flipping back into the ring,
Starting point is 01:46:50 he was able to land on his feet, but if he'd had his preference from the start, he would have been out stomping the guy on the apron. But he got hung going over the top and went backwards. I was so, When MJF got off color and started doing spots with the kids, I fast forwarded to the finish. And MJF armed AR Fox to win the thing, as obviously who could have thought he wasn't.
Starting point is 01:47:18 But then Mark Briscoe comes out. And I got to admit, at least I want to see Mark Briscoe at MJF in a program with each other, multiple matches, talk to, do promos back and forth. It's a lot better than the alternative of the rest of the Drek we're seeing. I wish that they had given Mark better booking behind him for the last two and a half years or so, so that this would be a main event pay-per-view match, but I'll take it. But he's cutting a promo about MJF's tiny little kosher pickle and that they're number one and number two in the gauntlet.
Starting point is 01:47:57 and Mark is good, but he asked, he challenged MJF for a talk next week. Leave the Hurt Syndicate out. Just me and you, let's talk next week. Okay, and he left. Is that the first time you've ever heard of a specific challenge between two guys that were already face-to-face talking? They were already talking, yeah. to continue to talk next week face to face.
Starting point is 01:48:31 I've heard to chala, hey, show up next week. You're not here tonight. Show up next week. And we'll be face to face. I've heard that one. That should have been MJF's reply. We're already talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:44 But anyway, so next week they're going to talk. And In Briscoe left and music played. And here came Kevin Knight and Hong Kong Fooey. I swear to God. and they're coming down the aisleway all fired up like they want to fight the Hurt Syndicate and they jump in and they'd get a little flurry at the start. Spitball shit is so weak.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Either the first blows he was trying to strike, it's like a child playing wrestling. And they did a couple of dives and then the Hertz took over and beat the shit out of them. Just beat the end and left them laying. And then they start to leave. The hurts do. And then the same angle as segment one, the baby faces crawled to their knees and said,
Starting point is 01:49:38 we haven't had enough. Page just did this, right? Hold on. Let me go back to, hold on, my notes says, Paige. Yeah, is that the best you got? After getting the shit kicked out of him, may come and kicked the shit out of him. So they said, is that the best you got? We're still standing.
Starting point is 01:50:02 So MVP sent them back, and they goozled these two idiots and double power bombed them. And they started to leave the ring again, and the fans started lightly chanting one more time. Because why wouldn't you? Because who likes these two gibrony goofs? And then, again, the baby faces staggered, up and so we're still here and the herds come in and just beat the shit out of them that's a
Starting point is 01:50:37 third time right just kicked the bejesus out of a boom boom and stacked them up and left again and fucking hell the faces got the microphone we're still alive you're going to have to kill us and then after that Kevin Knight called Shelton Benjamin a bitch and challenged him for a one-on-one match for collision. Yeah, I want to see this. Not only if we could have kicked this shit out of the two of you for the fifth time in this match at the pay-per-view, but also I'll kick the shit out of you all by myself,
Starting point is 01:51:16 all by yourself on the B show. What the fuck is going on here, Brian? Oh, I don't know. And it almost seems like they're setting it up for, Jet Speed to win the tag titles, but that would be the stupidest thing to do, a makeshift tag team that was put together with a bad name, and again, I know their fans like Speedball. I think Kevin Knight ain't bad, but Speedball... He's dragging him down.
Starting point is 01:51:40 I enjoy watching Speedball for all the wrong reasons. Like, I don't need to see him in a great match. I enjoy watching them just because it's a clown show. It's a tiny guy. Somebody's claiming a nose or his real teeth, by the way, instead of them. mouth thing. No way. No, it's a mouth card. It's absolutely a mouth card. Well, somebody said it. Who? Who is this person?
Starting point is 01:52:01 Somebody on Twitter. So they got to be right. Go ahead. Do you want to see that tag match? No. And how competitive could it be after all these beatings? Well, and also, that's the thing is the hurts are over and they have nobody on the roster that they can book them with
Starting point is 01:52:22 that the people would want to see that they would buy against them that would be in any kind of way a good match or a money match and they're sticking them in with these indie fucking darlings it just it's a mess and and then every they beat the shit out of multiple times you have to kill us and also how about me and you on collision what the fuck the hurts look cool and kick-ass and like stars and the baby faces are goofy nerds the size of children whose work-lucked. looks like shit and they can't whip anybody. And therefore nobody gives a shit.
Starting point is 01:53:07 I don't have much plainer to say it. Hour and 10 minutes into the show and this is all we've seen so far. But in an hour and 10 minutes, they could repeat the same angle twice. How does it, is there a producer? Is there any, well, no, there are producers, but the guys don't listen to any of the producers from what I'm told. But there is no main show. producer, it should be Tony's job if he's the Booker
Starting point is 01:53:36 or somebody that he hires to make sure they don't do the same angle in three different goddamn finishes. But that's the way you determine whether can we do this? Well, hold on. If three people want to do the same thing, one's main event, one midcard, one fucking preliminary, guess which one wins? The next match was heroes and villains. Brian, did you see that the big Superman movie tie-in? Oh, they already do the video at this point in the show
Starting point is 01:54:09 with Omega and MJF or not yet? I don't know because I didn't even, I didn't make any notes on it because I would just so, yeah, I know I saw it. Yeah, the actor who plays the new Superman, the actor who plays Lex Luther, they both towered over the wrestlers. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you noticed that. Yeah, the actors were six inches taller than both of the wrestlers. and MJF is not a fucking giant.
Starting point is 01:54:34 We know that. But the Superman guy who now facially, these actors look like they wouldn't fucking say boo to Mother Teresa. They're not like intimidating, but they're tall. And the Superman guy was six inches taller than Kenny. Or is he just stooped over since they took his guts out?
Starting point is 01:54:53 This was the first time we've seen Kenny since he got hospitalized. And he's out there with a cape on, standing next to Superman. I know he'd be out there at the end of the show, but this is the first time we saw him since he got attacked. He looked like a real swashbuckler. The cape? He could have, if he had a top hat and a cane,
Starting point is 01:55:12 he could have fucking turned into Mr. Hyde. His head always looks like it's about to explode. If you look at pictures of Mike, it just, it looks like it's like bloated to the point where it's going to explode at any second. I don't know, that's another one of my thoughts I had there. yes well jot those all down so we don't forget any of them but back to heroes and villains um i don't know which was which here it was roderick strong callow raleigh and bandito
Starting point is 01:55:40 versus the hardly boys and take a shit and their travelogue was already over i thought we were going to see some payoff they just did a video outside their grammar school and showed the limo full of sneakers. But anyway, they had a six-man tag sponsored by a comic book with the corpse referee. So, and I had to say, well, this is where the kids are going to get to play.
Starting point is 01:56:10 A movie, not a comic book. A movie of a comic book. Right. Can they do it in less than 20 minutes was my question. And son of a bitch, they did it in 12. And I appreciate that because you saved, a lot of us, a lot of time and just duress.
Starting point is 01:56:30 So they beat O'Reilly. And then, of course, nothing's ever over in this company. So they're going to get more of their heat, but Osprey and swerve hit the ring and ran them off. And then they started doing the fucking dueling promo to promote their match where they're going to try again to explain to us the stifery.
Starting point is 01:56:56 because remember last week, it was, wait a minute, the EBP titles are on the line. So does that mean that the winners, if Swerve and Osprey win, are they EVPs? What's going on? Well, they're going to clear this up right now. That's my favorite. You know, I was thinking about the other part.
Starting point is 01:57:12 I forgot all about that explanation. Who's going to be the EVPs if they win? Yeah. Well, I think it was an explanation or maybe it just sent me blurted out because the baby faces, wanted the stipulations of the EVP spots being up. And again, only one person runs this.
Starting point is 01:57:35 It's Tony Kahn. They've established that, but these guys are still EVPs and get to get away with things for some reason, even though they're always, Tony Kahn's always on the premises, but he doesn't say anything. But then later on, he'll book a match in 10 seconds. So at first, it was Swirv first that said a lot of people are saying that if we win, we get to be the EVP? No, if we win, we aren't going to be the EVPs, the people, the fan, you fans are going to be the EVPs.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Is that official? If Swerve and Osprey win, then does that mean that the fans are all EVPs and they all get to come to the production meeting? but then the bucks do the promo oh no no no no besides you guys guys you guys you guys can't get along and i don't think swerves on board but also we ain't going to do this because what do we get out of well then osprey comes up with something and he goes over and he whispers to swerve and swerve gets the stink face like what and osprey blurts it out that I don't know what still happens to the EVPs, but if Osprey and Swerve lose according to Osprey,
Starting point is 01:59:04 then neither he nor swerve can challenge for the world title for one year. What the fuck does the world title have to do with the fuck? This neither of the bucks is the world champion. What do they give a shit about? Help me, Brian. if you guys beat us, then we won't fight other people. But if we win, then the fans get to be the EVPs and you're not? Why does it help the bucks of these guys are not world champion?
Starting point is 01:59:40 Exactly. Why would they care? It's not their belts. And they didn't even say world tag. At first I thought maybe they made a mistake and they meant we won't challenge for the tag team titles because obviously. But they're not the tag team champions. Exactly. I mean, even that part doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:59:54 but neither one of us will challenge for the world title. Neither one of us will fight another guy if you if you guys beat us. But if we beat you then you can't
Starting point is 02:00:10 be EVPs anymore and tell people what to do. So the bucks agree to that. Osprey talked swerve into it, by the way. You know, swerve still wasn't real on board with the whole thing. but swerve said yes and about okay it's a deal and then for whatever reason
Starting point is 02:00:36 the screen went black and the audio went completely out for like 10 seconds and then they came back as swerve and osprey were talking to each other and pitched to the break they tried to did someone flash the camera with their their boobages i don't know what happened i don't know what happened in a multitude of ways i don't know what happens. Yes. So they're going to have that match and those things are going to happen in that match if one of those things happens. That's what we know. And again, why can't Tony Khan just override any part of this? Why does he allow this all to happen? That's never been explained, especially after they beat him up. Why do the Bucks have any of this power? Because it makes a good story they
Starting point is 02:01:24 came up with for themselves. I guess it's more enjoyable if you don't try to make things or have things make sense. Well, but it's always better if you understand what the fuck it is that you're watching in the way of a fake story. Speaking of wondering what you're watching in the way of a fake story, then to make sure that we know that the movie is titled Heroes and Villains, they had another Heroes and Villains match with Swerve and Osprey against Drillistico and Frank Mortis. and they beat old Drillistico in 10 minutes.
Starting point is 02:02:02 And actually they beat both. They double teamed old Frank Mortis, and he rolled out of the ring, and then they just kicked the shit out of the other guy. They kind of overbeat them. But anyway, are you ready, Brian, for our main event of the evening?
Starting point is 02:02:20 A main event that I watched in its entirety. That's one of the big questions that Jim actually watched the match. I had to see what... It's sort of like I had to see what they had to say for themselves. Are these two going to in any way
Starting point is 02:02:38 try to earn their money, work hard, get over, add to the program, or are they going to sleepwalk through this shit with as little effort as possible? And I believe we now have our answer. The big main event on television and I can't wait to hear the ratings.
Starting point is 02:03:00 Idushi versus Oblada. The Battle of the Sleepwalkers. Brian, I have a blow to blow here, a blow to blow, a blow by blow here. But what was your overall opinion? I don't want to sway you in any way. I want you to tell me what you thought of this dream match between these two spry Japanese superstars.
Starting point is 02:03:26 I think Ibushi has the worst facial expressions I've ever seen on a wrestler. Okada's been completely unimpressive. I wanted to see this to see if it could be anything, and it wasn't as bad as I thought it could be at its worst. So that's a positive, because we've seen Abushi, like, fall apart. Oh, yeah. He wasn't like a leprosy victim where pieces of him were just falling off. And I'm sure when Tony was writing out dynamites in his head,
Starting point is 02:03:56 he jerked off all over the place the idea of episode 300 having Abushi versus Okada. That was probably a big deal. And it was a big deal to some of the people there at the start. I mean, I don't know how it could have been a big deal after they saw it. But, you know, some of these people have blinders on as far as if you're a big baseball fan, but if Babe Ruth came out to the, to at bat when he's, 92 years old and when he swung the bat, he fell over, would you still go, this is awesome? Ah, so Okada opened up with stalling.
Starting point is 02:04:41 Thought I was watching a Japanese Larry Zabisco, and their lockups were flat-footed. They looked like wrestling school lockups or just, and then Okada took two chops and rolled out and took a walk. and then Okada kind of gingerly stopped Ibushi and used some weak elbows at a slow pace. Ibushi kicked him, he took one bump and rolled out. Ibushi dove on him as he stood there waiting to catch him. Then Ibuci walked all the way around the ring for no apparent reason to come back for Okada to stop him.
Starting point is 02:05:22 And they fought on the floor in slow motion. and they went to the break and they came back and they were still in slow motion Okada shot Ibushi off turnbuckle and turnbuckle and Abushi looked like he almost tripped and couldn't run to turn
Starting point is 02:05:40 and I mean it was either Ibushi with the stiff kicks that were slow because he'd just draw back and whack, okay but then he tries the fast ones and they look like shit. Okada hit, I've never
Starting point is 02:05:57 seen a flapjack in slow motion before. And in the interest of keeping things logical, he gave Ibuci a flapjack and then slapped on a wrist lock. He body slammed him and he got that elbow drop off the top rope is now, I'm sorry, I know not everybody can be Bobby Eaton. I'm not expecting poetry in motion, but he just crumbles off the goddamn top rope. and lands at a I wrote there hadn't been a facial expression
Starting point is 02:06:32 between the two of them. O'Kada did some slow, fake forearms. Ibushi at one point fought back with, he was trying to do like boxing or MMA punches and while O'Kada just covered up his head with his hands and either they didn't land or they looked like play fighting.
Starting point is 02:06:54 It made Shane O'Mac look like Mike Tyson. Then one guy hits a clothes line. They both lay there for 30 seconds. They, what the fuck? Nobody's sweating here. They got a big pop.
Starting point is 02:07:09 They struggled to balance on the top rope and then Ibushi gave Okada something off the top rope that got a big pop because it looked like a fuck up. Oh, shit. That was dangerous. And he got a two count with that.
Starting point is 02:07:26 That was a big move off the top that he hit fucking Okada with and everybody, oh, he's dead. And then the next move, Ibushi goes for, Okada countered it. He was fine. He got up, hit him with a clothesline, a drop kick, and a clothesline and beat him one, two, three. So the most severe reaction to any move and the biggest bump that anybody took in the whole match, the guy that took it immediately got up, closed line, drop kick. close line one, two, three. If you put masks on these guys and change their names and put this same exact match out
Starting point is 02:08:08 there in front of people, even the AEW fans would have booted out of the building. And I'm sorry, I want some son of a bitch out there to clip together the parts of this match that look in any way like a classic goddamn wrestling confrontation between any top star and any other top star in history. Just put it next to Rick Flair and Ronnie Garvin trading fucking chops for 20 seconds. What the fuck? The laziest.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Lack of effort, sloppy work, slow motion, movement, lack of emotional investment on the part of the participants and flat finishes. And then here go, Archer and Rocky and Don Phallis get in and get some more heat on Ibushi. And then the music plays and Kenny runs out with a chair and runs the heels off,
Starting point is 02:09:16 except Trent comes into the ring from behind with a police baton. but Ibushi who just got beat by this guy's fucking various moves gets up and stops him and they double team Trent and then Kenny and Dushi hug as we go off the air which by the way was about eight minutes late am I am I being overly dramatic here or am I being fairly descriptive I think it's fair to say that Abushi and Okada are washed up If you've seen any of their previous work from 10 plus years ago, these are not the same guys, and the environment's not the same environment. I was surprised this was the main event. Did you see the post-match footage, the off-air footage of...
Starting point is 02:10:07 I don't mean how to describe it. I did not. Omega standing next to Abushi, and Abushi took a bump right onto a chair, intentionally, hit his head on the chair, and just got up and walked away. because the post that was going around was like,
Starting point is 02:10:23 look at this idiot, look at him fucking up his neck on his own. I don't even, I don't have any idea why that that would have been a thing that would have happened. I'm very confused now. He just took his own bump on a chair and then got up and left. That is indeed what happened. I'll see if we could find some footage for you, but that was AEW Dynamite another banner episode. And you know, and again, there's a difference between being washed up and washed up
Starting point is 02:10:49 on shore. This looks like goddamn floating corpse matches. I'm sorry. I do apologize. Well, Jim, no reason to apologize. That was another AEW Dynamite. Maybe other people have a reason to apologize.
Starting point is 02:11:05 Why don't we talk about the ratings? Well, that's the big question. This was show number 300. They, they, the big, they had to go all out for this, right? With the dream match with Dufus and Dufus 2. and all this other stuff. So they had to do a big number.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Well, AEW Dynamite on Wednesday, July 2nd, 2025 from Ontario, Canada. Excuse me, not Canada, Ontario, California. This is Ontario CA. I read it as Ontario County. You've heard of the other white meat? This is the other Ontario. 8 to 10.08 p.m. on average,
Starting point is 02:11:42 watched by 584,000 viewers. Ouch. Well, they... They came back from Mexico and came back to somewhat of a little reality last week, but this is reality bites. That's right, a movie from the 90s, but let's go to these ratings. It love hurts. Jim, let's go to these.
Starting point is 02:12:05 Love hurts, reality bites. Love also stinks. Love stinks and hurts. Did you know that? Whereas reality only bites. All right. Well, little do we know about what Peter Wolfe would have thought of this week's dynamite, but Jim, let's go to the quarter hour.
Starting point is 02:12:19 breakdowns. These were compiled by WrestleMania quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. The Adam Page death rider Samoa Joe Live Angle 687,000
Starting point is 02:12:34 viewers. Ooh, okay, two things. One, they're still starting out low. And two, they're going to drop some if they started at that number and to hit their average. So this could be
Starting point is 02:12:49 back to normal for an episode of dynamite. We go now to quarter to 815, 8.30 p.m. Mercedes Monet versus Mina Shirakawa. Picture and picture ads and bad audio, at least on our part, 593,000 viewers. All righty, so we're second quarter, we're already under 600.
Starting point is 02:13:19 They lost 94,000 people. people. Well, we go now to quarter three, 8.30, 8.45 p.m. The continuation of Monet versus Mina, the postmatch with Tony, the Young Bucks video, an ad break. Moni, Mooney, and the Young Bucks video, uh, oh, it was the second time. Came back from commercial break with more Bucks video and entrances, 592,000 viewers. So they're, they're pretty flat there, but they haven't actually seen the kookamunga kids in the place. That should run them off.
Starting point is 02:14:00 There's an interesting story here on this episode, too, with the key demo. So just real quick, opened to 242, went to 232, now down to 211. We'll talk more about that in a little bit. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. AR Fox versus Bowens versus MJF versus Brody with
Starting point is 02:14:18 picture and picture ads. And the post match with the Hurt Syndicate and Mark Briscoe 589,000 viewers. And again, they only lost 3,000, so they've stayed 593, 592, 589. The folks that are there are not yet saying fuck it, but also now we've got MJF and Hurt's syndicate around. We should, I would think, gain something at the top of the hour. Well, we go to the big 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. quarter five.
Starting point is 02:14:52 The Hurt Syndicate Jet Speed live angle. Maybe they won't gain. An ad break. And the start of Takesha and the Young Bucks versus Bandito and Paragon. Ooh. 577,000 viewers. Yeah. 20, no, that's 12,000, but at the top of the hour to see those folks, no.
Starting point is 02:15:19 Well, we go to quarter six, nine, 15, and 9.30. p.m. the continuation of Takeshita and the Bucks versus Bandito and the Paragon, or just Paragon, picture and picture ads, the post match with Will Osprey and Swarst Strickland, 576,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:15:38 Good Lord, remarkably fat, once they're flat, flat, once they pick a number, they stay at 593, 592, 589, now 577, 576, and again, I'm seeing there's,
Starting point is 02:15:52 needs to be some attrition here in the next couple of quarters for them to make their average. It's, they're, they're going to start dropping like flies. And once again, the key demo, the last time I gave you the number was 211, then it was 198, 197, 198. So steady, dropped, and then it stayed steady, just like the real show. Or just like the overall number, not the real show. Quarter 7.9.30 to 9.45 p.m. an ad break, Swerve and Osprey versus
Starting point is 02:16:19 Drillistico and Mortos, picture and picture, 523,000 viewers, also the low point in the key demo at 179. Ouch, and that's another 53,000 people, and now they're officially down 164,000 from start to that point.
Starting point is 02:16:42 And they can't have a, they're going to do themselves no favors coming up here in this last quarter. Well, we go to quarter eight. I remind you we have an eight-minute overrun. 9.45 to 10 p.m. an ad break. And the start of Okada versus Abushi with picture and picture. 541,000 viewers. Eight-minute overrun,
Starting point is 02:17:08 continuation of the match and the post-match with the Callis family, Endomega, 5754,000. Here's what's interesting too. Key demo was at 179 for quarter 7, jumped a 241 for quarter 8, and then went to 267 for the overrun. I don't know if we've seen a jump like that in recent memory, and that's obviously surprising.
Starting point is 02:17:36 The fact that there would only be a 300,000 viewer difference between the overall number and the key demo for Okada versus Abushi is surprising. Well, it's the younger folks that are more brainwashed to this horseshit because they didn't have as long to watch actual real pro wrestling. But we take the overrun out because Jesus Christ, that's 30,000 people wandered in to watch modern family. I have a feeling most of those people are adults also. That's why I jumped there.
Starting point is 02:18:05 But that they gained 18,000 from quarter seven to quarter eight to watch that sleepwalking contest, again, they ought to be turning cartwheels. But the more you show them that they can't do anything anymore, doesn't that take the luster off these guys? Shouldn't he at least try to, instead of putting them in with each other when neither one's going to try, put them in with somebody else that will work hard? Maybe you get more bang for your buck if you put them in there together. Even if the match isn't good, if it popped the key demo,
Starting point is 02:18:39 which is the only thing the network cares about according to AEW, make it a two-hour ironman match with these two. Oh, Jesus Christ. Neither one are made out of iron, and that would be the longest two hours of anybody's life. Okay, so the dream match, instead of drawing 523,000 viewers drew 541,000. But a bunch of people,
Starting point is 02:19:03 now wait a minute, hold on here. Something's wrong here. Explain this to me how this could happen, Brian. You say quarter 7 was 523,000 people and 179,000 in the key demo, right? Correct. Quarter 8 was 541,000 people. That is 18,000 people more than quarter 7. But the key demo is up 62,000 people.
Starting point is 02:19:39 So does that mean that not only, did 18,000 new people come into that segment, but suddenly, 44,000 people that were watching quit and another 44,000 in a different age group came in. And by the way, that age group is 18 to 49 year old males. So it's not like, you know, a small little age group of young people. 18 to 49 is a pretty big. Well, yeah, but how do they, how do they gain a fucking, hold on, 41,
Starting point is 02:20:19 how do they gain 62,000 people in an age group, but only gain 18,000 people overall? That means a bunch of other people in a different age group had to quit fucking watching. Suddenly, all by themselves. When did it be gone 211, 198, 197, 197, 198, 178, that, you know, that's fluctuate. All of a sudden, how the fuck does that work?
Starting point is 02:20:47 Yeah, if those viewers hadn't come back, would this have been in the 400s for quarter eight? Not even come back, but it's a whole different goddamn concoction of them. That's true. There are 18,000 more viewers overall, but 62,000 more in the key demo. So where'd the 44,000 people that were between the ages of five and nine, and 62 and 94 go. So those lapsed New Japan fans.
Starting point is 02:21:17 There was. AEW. Dynamite for July 2nd. Welcome to the summer. Well, you know, it is summertime, Brian. You know what summer means? More warmth, more light, more day, more hours in the day, the daytime, the time to spend outside. You're going to be out and about enjoying the moments
Starting point is 02:21:36 from sun up to sundown. You need something to listen to. because you see it all the time, Brian. You see people walking down the street look like Sean Travolta walking down the street staying alive, having Saturday night fever. Or you see somebody else walking down a street dancing like Elaine Benis.
Starting point is 02:21:54 You can't hear a dadgum thing. There's no noise, but these people, they're not epileptic, they're just having seizures. They're jerking their body, they're all kind of twitching about. And it's because they're listening. to their own private soundtrack on the Racon Everyday Wireless Earbuds. Brian, many members of your family
Starting point is 02:22:16 listen to these things, don't they? That's right. I had a pair, and then someone in the family took it because they loved their Racon, and Suzanne has them, the kids have them. I will hopefully be getting another new pair soon because I love my Racon. You know, you can tell who did that
Starting point is 02:22:31 if you have that earwax analyzed. Well, we're not going to go to the phone. Because everybody, you know, earwax is just like a blood type. And folks, I'll tell you what, right now the summertime and the living is easy. And if you're listening to your own soundtrack, it used to be hard. Remember when people used to go out to the beach in the 50s
Starting point is 02:22:49 and have to drag their record player along with them and have to actually get down on all fours and somebody would set the record player on the guy's back and then you'd try to figure out how to plug the speakers in and sooner or later the hot dogs would be burnt. Well, now it's easy. And it's not even as hard as back in the boombox days. Brian, you remember that when you had to take a three foot long, two and a half foot high,
Starting point is 02:23:14 80 pound boom box around and listen to your music that way. Now it all goes right in your ears. It all fits right snugly in your ears in a variety of vibrant colors. You can listen to podcasts. You can listen to music. You can listen to talk radio. You can, as a matter of fact, if you want to, have your wife write down a list of things that she needs to nag you about. that day. So when you go out on your walk, you can still know what you're doing wrong.
Starting point is 02:23:44 All of these things are available with Raycons every day. Well, you can do it also. That is nothing. That's available on your own and your own private time. That's nothing to do with Raycon. Well, and maybe have her make a sexy time tape. So when you walk down the street, you can listen to the sounds of your wife and pet Dalmatian screaming.
Starting point is 02:24:03 And speaking of battery power with Raycon's quick charge function, just 10 minutes of charging. yields 90 minutes of battery. Don't go back and listen to this show. No, that was sexy time? These earbuds also don't listen to it again. You'll want to start messing with it. These earbuds also come with active noise cancellation, which is something difficult to find.
Starting point is 02:24:26 You can't cancel a noise today in this world for any price. And Raycons started just half the price of other premium audio brands. You can get two pair of these for the same price. You can get one of these overpriced high. priced premium brands, that means you can have a pair and a spare just in case something happens to the pair you got, you got a spare. Or you can find some underprivileged person, go up on a street and stick these things in their ears and imagine their surprise. Watch their face when you give homeless people a pair of these earbuds set to like a police
Starting point is 02:25:04 scanner. It's amazing how they'll just, they'll just immediately start listening like their lives depend on it. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about examples that apply to you that we can all relate to needing to listen to some good tunes on the treadmill, needing to get up and go and take your tunes or your podcast with you. Raycon, great earbuds. I wear them. I love them. My family does. Stacey loves them too. Stacey snatches them up every time. And she hasn't heard me speak to her since probably 2015. She's always listening to stuff. I know what her favorite color is.
Starting point is 02:25:39 Chartreuse. No, mint. Oh, she got the mint. That's right. Chartreuse, what? The Chartreuse were a favorite. You know, you can take phone calls on these some bitches too? Now, think about this.
Starting point is 02:25:51 Let's say that you've called in sick at work. And they call you back just to make sure you're sick, but you're out there sunbathing. All you got to do is make sure you sunbathe right next to you. your car and then you say, I'm walking to the doctor's office right now. I'm so sick. And then you blow your horn and scream and slam the door. And then you can get two weeks more off of work because they'll think you're in a hospital and traction. See, imagine that being able to take phone calls anywhere on the go while you're just walking around outside. Let's imagine.
Starting point is 02:26:23 Let's imagine that part, not the other part, but what's such a great thing is that this is a great deal for the listeners. Jim, why don't we let them know how they can get their RACON at a great price right now? Yes, all you got to do is track down the name of the head of Raycon and then scream while honking a horn and slamming a door and then threaten to sue them unless they send you some new Raycon everyday earbuds. Or if you want to go about it the old-fashioned way. They have a website that they like us to you. Yes. Yes, if you want to be old-fashioned about it, go to Buy Raycon, B-U-Y-R-A-Y-C-O-N-B-R-A-R-A-Y-C-O-N-R-C-E-E. you're going to get 15% off Raycon's best-selling everyday earbuds for music or talk or phone conversations or
Starting point is 02:27:11 intercepting secret missions from NASA. You can do everything in this world today. No, we can't intercept secret audio. You've got communication devices in your head. You'll be able to pick these things up. And if you raise the my favorite Martian special antenna, no, there's no antenna. No, there's no antenna.
Starting point is 02:27:33 Well, that's only when you press the sound cancelling button and go Uncle Martin, Uncle Martin, then the antenna go up and you are talking to Mars. No antenna, but a great way to enjoy your favorite music, your favorite shows, Raycon, Jim, what's that website and that promo code? 15% off the bestselling everyday earbuds at buy raycon.com slash JCE. Well, I'll tell you what, you might have Raycons in your ears, but if you're not, If Abushi had had Raycons in his ears, they would have popped out because you just sent me the clip. What in the world? So they're standing in the ring, him and Kenny, after the show has gone off the air, there's a chair laying in the ring. And Ibushi just turns his back on it, flings himself up in the air, takes a flat back bump with the back of his head landing on the chair, then pops up to his feet, jumps up,
Starting point is 02:28:31 gets out of the ring and waves that everybody walks off. Even Kenny's looking like, what the fuck did he do that for? What is the matter with these people? What, what, why would you do that? Oh, here, let me, let me take one more bump to show you that everything is all fake and nothing hurts, even the shit that really does. And then I'll hurt myself and then go back to the dressing room. Well, anyway, speaking of removing your brain and replacing it with something,
Starting point is 02:29:07 what can we replace our brains with on the Arcadian Vanguard network this fine week? All right, well, let's try to do this quick. We have a long way to go on Twitter at Super Podcasts or on Facebook, Facebook.com slash Arcadian Vanguard, the wrestling news each and every day. No clickbait, no paywall, just the wrestling news, the wrestling news.com, wherever you find, your favorite podcast, the morning wrestling newscast. Of course, shut up and wrestle with Brian Solomon and S.U.S.U.
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Starting point is 02:30:05 so I guess anything can happen. Before we leave the air today, we're going to continue a project we were doing. We're going to start on the other side of the street. Several weeks ago, over a period of a couple or three different shows, we went through the AEW talent roster and we paired it down. Who would we keep? Who would we chuck?
Starting point is 02:30:29 and we've still kept those lists, folks, and we're going to polish that up even further when we get something to work with from the other company, and then we're going to make this an ongoing thing where we eventually whittle it down to how many legitimate talents does each company have, and then how do they compare with each other? But first, we got to do the WWE.
Starting point is 02:30:49 And Brian, it took us a while to go through the AEW roster because there's 100 and whatever, officially on that. I have a feeling the WWE roster is bigger, so we're going to start it I guess at A and see how far we get before we just want to
Starting point is 02:31:10 hang ourselves in our closet today. Is that about concisely conveyed the information? I think we'll be okay without any hangings, but if I go to www.com under superstars,
Starting point is 02:31:27 they have all the champions, and then they have current superstars and you can break it down to raw Smackdown free agent or current superstars or all superstars. Instead of trying to limit ourselves since the pickings are so slim, why don't we just go all superstars?
Starting point is 02:31:47 Because everybody, you know, every superstar's life is important. And we need to consider whether or not to fire them just equally the same, no matter who they are. Now are we doing men and women together as part of the same point? Are they in any way segregated or how hard do we have to
Starting point is 02:32:10 fucking, Jesus, just men and just everybody at random? Oh, boy. All right, well, let's go through the champions. You tell me, you tell me and we'll both know. How about that? The undisputed WWE champion, John Cena. Well, that's a trick question right off bat. Because if we keep
Starting point is 02:32:30 him, we've only got five months of him. So, do we put that with an asterisk? We're going to keep a star like John Cena for five months, but not for long term. The World Heavyweight Champion Gunther. Definitely
Starting point is 02:32:48 going to keep Gunther. The women's world champion E.O. Sky. There is someone in Castle Cornet who's a fan of Eoskeye. Yes, there is. is. Stacy likes E.O. Sky. But Stacy ain't booking this.
Starting point is 02:33:08 I'm sorry, EO has to go. Oh, come on. They have ruined the image of every Japanese wrestler, women, female wrestler, woman wrestler, because of painting them all up or making them all up to fit either the AEW indie Japanese schoolgirl fetish thing. they got going on or this ridiculous kabuki dancer deal that everybody in the WWE has to do.
Starting point is 02:33:38 Nobody can just be Gail Kim, normal person who happens to be of Asian persuasion. Well, I don't think people, again, I think the fans really like EOS guy. No one sees her as that. And she's very different. She's not a kabuki dancer or a, I don't even remember what you said about AEW. Frilly person. Philly Japanese schoolgirl fetish. type of thing.
Starting point is 02:34:03 Like the Rehors. The big problem is she wins the title and she hasn't had any title defenses. We haven't seen her do anything since then. That's terrible. She's very good. Let's go to... Oh, God damn it, then I'll keep her. E.O. Sky.
Starting point is 02:34:18 We're going to have to separate to men and women later on unless we're doing an intergender division. Women's champion, Tiffany Stratton. You got to keep Tiffany. She grates on me, but they've... elevated her to the top, and she is an athletic, robust-looking young thing. The Intercontinental champion, Dominic Mysterio. Definitely got to keep.
Starting point is 02:34:42 You know what? Remember, we had, we had like three people that we kept on the AEW roster. I'd fired the entire page. Now, there's nobody going. Dominic, we got to keep Dominic. Did we do the WWE roster last time when he was like a young baby face, and we were like, eh, I don't know. I don't know about him.
Starting point is 02:35:01 I don't know. It may have even been before him the last time we did this, but yeah, we didn't know. The U.S. champion Solo Sacoa. Again, you know, we were being charitable with a lot of people in AEW because we were chucking so many of them. I, you know, I think you still have, it's not even being charitable to keep solo because he has value. He's not Jacob Fattu, but he's not either. so I think you got to keep solo. The women's intercontinental champion, Becky Lynch. Becky Lynch is a superstar.
Starting point is 02:35:45 Her best days may be behind her, but she's got a couple of good things in front of her. We got to keep Becky Lynch. She can cut a promo. She's got a fucking name. She's been a bigger star, but in the past, but they still like her. The women's United States champion,
Starting point is 02:36:03 Julia Oh what have I seen her once I know people like her I wasn't thrilled we got a lot of a lot of women she's a champion Jim
Starting point is 02:36:20 yeah hey so was fucking pockets when he won something uh oh god damn everybody's gonna get mad if I get rid of Julia I don't know what to do with Julia?
Starting point is 02:36:35 Can we just suspend some instead of firing them? You do it. It's your roster. It's your roster. You got to make the decision. Let's come back to it. We'll put Julia over on the side. If we need Julia, we'll call for her.
Starting point is 02:36:50 The WWE speed champion. El Grande Americano. Okay, but this is again another loaded question. Besides, Chad Gable, get well soon. He's had surgery. I don't want to keep El Grande Americano, but I want to keep Chad Gable. So is he listed twice? More than likely, yes.
Starting point is 02:37:12 Well, then I'll keep Gable and dump Americano. The women's speed champion, Saul Ruka or Ruka. I'm not sure I've never seen her. Well, and don't get used to her, just because, for heaven's sake. The world tag team champions, Finn Bauer and J.D. McDonough. You know, their tag team division is so disinteresting because it's all mid-card guys and it's not the talent's fault. There's just no main event tag teams in the company anymore. Finn's a great worker and Finn probably before he's probably closer to the end than the beginning.
Starting point is 02:37:55 I'm not trying to retire him, but he is older than he used to be. he would probably make a good trainer, good agent. Been a responsible professional. You don't hear bad stories about him. I would keep Finn on the cards. And J.D. works hard. Let's put J.D. over on the side in case we need something. Well, no, fuck it.
Starting point is 02:38:18 Let's just keep J.D.'s pretty good. J.D.'s pretty good. We could do something different with him besides him being the smiley, large-headed fucking sidekick all the time. Leave his head alone. Jim. I haven't touched his head. The WWE tag team champions, the street profits.
Starting point is 02:38:37 What's their individual names? Montez Ford and something Dawkins. Ford is the one who has the extraordinary leaping ability and seems like he looks a little bit more athletic, I believe. I don't like the gimmick per se, and I think people are kind of tired because they've been there forever, but I would repackage Montez Ford and let Daryl Dawkins go away and learn a new hole.
Starting point is 02:39:10 The women's tag team champions Raquel Rodriguez and Roxanne Perez. When did they win the belts? We just saw... Well, no, Liv Morgan's injured, so Roxanne has been chosen free bird rules to take her place.
Starting point is 02:39:31 Well, we'll keep Rochette. Rochelle, because she's got, she got the size and the menacing demeanor. I think Stacey says Roxanne Perez is okay. Let's keep Roxanne Perez until we polish this down later. And clearly they're building to Liv Morgan coming back probably as a baby face to confront Raquel for stealing her group and her man and her tag team partner and everything else. We also, we got to keep Liv Morgan. know everybody's going to hear me be happy hear me
Starting point is 02:40:05 going to be happy to hear me going to be happy to hear me say that but she's a star now I just don't want to see her wrestle a lot but I like to watch her box no I like to watch her fucking be in the middle of things and stir people up
Starting point is 02:40:18 Jim a few more of the NXT champions the NXT champion is Obafemi okay and now also somebody sent a video where the accent is bullshit. I remember we were debating that. What's with the accent
Starting point is 02:40:37 when we watched him the one time? He does a good job with it. I mean, you seem to be high on him. We watched the one match, and I recall that I wasn't thrilled. Is there something there to work with? Absolutely. All right, let's put over.
Starting point is 02:41:01 but down. The NXT. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I would just go say, see what we can do. NXT women's champion. J.C.
Starting point is 02:41:10 Jane. Okay. At some point, we've got to start drawing some lines here. And even though Jane Wayne Gacy has a very attitudinal
Starting point is 02:41:21 demeanor when she comes out for her entrance, no, we're getting down to the indie levels. Now, they've been in NXT for five years. She's going to, she's going to come.
Starting point is 02:41:30 She'd have come, but now. A lot of times you hear that said in certain situations. The NXT North America champion, Ethan Page. You know, he was better after he left the Lollipop Guild. You know, let's put him over on the side there, because I still need some convincing, but he ain't rotten. You already threw away the women's North American champion,
Starting point is 02:41:59 Saul Rucker, or Ruka. what about the NXT tag team champions Hank and Tank I'm so now what I don't know who these guys are Hank and Tank
Starting point is 02:42:16 okay well let's grab them by the Hank of the hair and tank them it's one of them's name is Hank Walker and does it let me click on the tank no it only goes to the Hank Hank and the tank
Starting point is 02:42:32 Well, it's the Tank brother, Sherman and Septic. Yeah, we've never seen him so we won't miss them. Buy Hank and Tank. And finally, the NXT Heritage Cup champion. These are still all fucking champions? That's right. Stacks. What, the record label?
Starting point is 02:42:52 Or what is it? No, I wish. No, Stacks, I think he was a part of the Tony DeAngelo crew. Oh, God, yeah. Very curly hair. Looks kind of like Kenny Gia. Yeah, let's not have him around anymore. All right, we will now go into the current Superstars list.
Starting point is 02:43:09 Jesus, is this at least alphabetical? Adam Pierce. Well, Adam Pierce, we would keep, but he's not on the wrestling roster. He is one of the general managers, and I have no squabble with the general management. What about Adriana Rizzo? Adriana Rizzo? Well, her husband, Jilly, was always good to Frank. So, but at the same time, no, who the fuck?
Starting point is 02:43:40 I clicked on her bio. Who is that? Oh, she's part of the group with Stax and Tony DeAngelo and Luca Chrysafino. Very pretty good. Okay, I'm writing Luca Persephone. So is she on the list, or is she on the side list? Are she on the side list? Where is she?
Starting point is 02:44:00 No, well, she's got to go with Stacks and Tony and all the rest of her group or she'll get lonesome. So they're going to be sleeping with the fish. What about AJ Stiles? Keeping AJ Styles, obviously. What about Akira Tazawa? Oh, good Lord. I mean, even if it was comedy and even if he's a wonderful,
Starting point is 02:44:24 if he's a wonderful person, give him a job on the crew, if you don't want to unemploy him. but what is he 125 pounds and he just shows up to be in some comedy underneath group and get thrown around every once in a while no we don't need they could go to AEW do that
Starting point is 02:44:40 Alba fire eh did we start the fire no but it's always been burning since the world's been turning well well if we didn't start the fire I'd say put it out
Starting point is 02:44:59 what about Al Lester Black. Good Lord. Oh, my God. But if we fire him, will he show back up in AEW? Then we can, can we put him in suspended animation? He can do that kick, and most of the time it looks good. Every once in a while, it looks like it might give brain damage.
Starting point is 02:45:20 And otherwise, than that, he's like watching grass grow. How about Alex Shelley? Alex Shelley, we're going to keep him. The guns are. Good, talented, and hardworking, they're just stuck in a division that is just, you know, has no oomph to it. How about Alexa Bliss? You're trying my patience here. Sell me.
Starting point is 02:45:54 Why? What does she need to do? I'm not a fan. I can't sell you. Okay. Well, she sells merch. She sells merch. Well, but a lot of the stuff.
Starting point is 02:46:07 these people would sell merch if we get started on. She can chase Alistair down the road. The ring announcer Alicia Taylor. Is she the one with the needlessly ridiculous hairdo? Yeah, she's got to go. To be honest, you may be describing the guys, too, on the ring announcer crew right now. Well, no, but the one that looks like the giant fucking cotton candy type of thing with things sticking out of it. Yeah, she wasn't old Samantha Irvin. No. Poor old Samantha.
Starting point is 02:46:42 Having a sit home with Slick Dome. What about Andrade? Again, tell me any reason why. What should he be doing right now that would be interesting? He's talented, but you'd have to do something completely different with him and not have him interact with him. It seems like he's only in feuds or dealing with the other Latino wrestlers. And it doesn't help him break away. but I don't know if I would keep him.
Starting point is 02:47:15 He can run away then. From NXT, Andre Chase. Poor fella. He's one of the, what were their names in Ring of Honor? You saw him, the brothers, him and his brother. No, I don't know who you talking about. No, now I blanked completely. Him and his brother were a team in Ring of Honor 15 years ago.
Starting point is 02:47:37 What were their name? They worked the Ring Crew, too. But yeah, this child was. Chase University thing and the whole, that's been crap for years now that we were, when we were watching NXT
Starting point is 02:47:49 years ago, they were still doing it. Oh, he's one of the Bravado brothers. I never even knew it. Bravado brothers, there you go. Huh. I never even knew that.
Starting point is 02:47:57 Interesting. He can go, he can drop out of school and change his name. I might bring him back. What about Angel Garza? Who I believe now is technically one of their champions
Starting point is 02:48:07 because he's one of the AAA tag team champions now. Yeah, well, I don't care. But at least he's got something to fall back. on. Yeah, we need to try to get rid of a lot of the clutter here so that we can see the stars.
Starting point is 02:48:22 Apollo Cruz. You know, we said in AEW we were going to try not to count bad booking or somebody just being, you know, not presented interestingly, but there's something there. A guy that looks like that, that has that much experience, you might be. able to get something out of me. I keep him around for a little while. Here's an interesting one because I believe you may have interacted with this person a long, long time ago.
Starting point is 02:48:59 Ariana Grace. How would I have interacted with... I could be wrong. I believe this is the daughter of Santino Morella. Oh, is that the one he had sitting on his lap? I don't know of any other one. Okay, well, you never know. I mean, well, no, with him, you know. I'm surprised he has a legitimate one, much less any others.
Starting point is 02:49:21 Yeah, she could go visit her dad and sit on his lap again in the unemployment line. Otherwise known as T&A. What about Ashanti Adonis? I'm trying to remember the last time we saw him. Yeah, actually, I don't remember. Was that one of a hit row? He was the one they kept when they fired the other ones, wasn't he? Or maybe?
Starting point is 02:49:47 I don't know. Well, we don't know who he is, so there you go. We don't know. Oscar. Okay, I kept E.O. Sky. Which one would you rather have? Right now, I would keep EO because O's older. Okay, then see you, Oscar.
Starting point is 02:50:12 Here's one that, it's funny, I see him, I think of you. Austin Theory. Of course we keep Austin Theory. And in some fashion, try to redeem what's been done to him over the past. I don't know how long. The only guy on a whole roster whose career suffered because Vince left. The NXT general manager, Ava. Oh, boy, howdy.
Starting point is 02:50:45 I mean, I'd like to come up with a line about she should go and do something she'd be good at, but I don't know what that would be. But no, she doesn't, she doesn't need to be on television at all in any way, shape, or form, wrestling or otherwise. I'm in agreement with you on that. What about the masked axiom? He can go with his mask,
Starting point is 02:51:14 or he can take the mask off and then go, as long as he goes. I'm not, I'm not going to be picky. What is ax? Hold on, axon, axon, ax off. I'm trying to find it. Axis, axel tree, axiom. A self-evident or universally recognized truth, a principle that is accepted as true without proof.
Starting point is 02:51:40 Well, there you go. If you think he's a star, you've got to accept that without proof. Jim from the women's division, B-FAB. Oh, good Lord, how quickly could we get her bad? packed. That's just, it's embarrassing. I mean, we enjoyed watching her because of the awkwardness and the impending, imminent botch that was going to happen in any second, but really somebody ought to put her out of her misery in this thing because she's never going to get it. How about Bailey? We'll keep Bailey. Don't even have to think about that.
Starting point is 02:52:22 If we're trimming down a bunch of the clutter of the women's roster, there's plenty of room for Bailey who can work and talk. How about Berto? How about who-oh? Berto. Who the fuck is Berto? He's the partner of Angel. He is also from the Garza family.
Starting point is 02:52:46 And he's just known as Berto. Well, he can go with his brother because I don't want his breakup families. I'm not a monster. I don't know if they're brosza. brothers, but I get the point. Bianca Bel Air. Got to keep Bianca. One of the biggest stars on the female roster.
Starting point is 02:53:04 Big E. Well, that's not even a fair question. He's injured and is not going to, so we don't consider, we're not going to fire him, but we're not going to put him in the ring. He's working on their broadcast crew now. And I have to say, I think he does a really good job with that. Like on the pregame and the post game, post game, it's not a game. the pre-show and the post show, I think he does a really good job on those broadcasts.
Starting point is 02:53:28 I guess we're called. Yeah, so if we get to the announcers and everything, we can bring him back into the picture. I'm not sure who this is. Oh, he's an announcer. Blake Howard. Eh. Exactly. How about Blake Monroe?
Starting point is 02:53:48 Now, wait a minute. Wrestler or Porn Star? This is the wrestler Blake Monroe, formerly known as Mariah Mae. I knew I thought that sounded familiar. Let's keep old Blake around, see what she can come up with. Mina Melons has taken her place in the affections of Tony Storm. So she's out there ready. She's single and ready to mingle.
Starting point is 02:54:14 What about Booker T? Well, again, the broadcast booth is another list that will compile. but obviously I would put Booker in the ring right now if you heard my Aege report on him for 15 years. Well, he wasn't trying, though, back then. But would you put him on the mic? Well, that's it. That's a question we'll answer when we get to the announcers.
Starting point is 02:54:41 All right, because it seems like they're mixed in here. That's why I'm bringing this up. Well, I think we ought to go back and goddamn talk about announcers later on. What about Brindley Reese? I don't have any fucking idea who that might be. Is it a man or a woman? Can you tell by the picture? And is an excitable woman apparently in the NXT.
Starting point is 02:55:01 Jim, what about Brock Lesnar? If they could get him, I would have him because he's one of the biggest stars in the business and he could put somebody over, if nothing else, in a big main event pay-per-view match. So, of course, you want Brock, but talking him out of Saskatchewan and or whether or not he's still got heat,
Starting point is 02:55:24 maybe another fact. And the payday he's going to want. Oh, they, they and got any room to complain about paying anybody anything these days of money they're making. Bronbreaker. Bronbreaker is not only being kept, but he would be moving quickly into the champions list. I'm assuming from NXT. Bronco Nema.
Starting point is 02:55:49 Unless that's Bronco Lubich under another name, we can say goodbye. Bronson Reed. And we're keeping him right. right over with his other brawn. Another one I'm going to assume is NXT, Brooks Jensen. It is a man. He is one of the,
Starting point is 02:56:11 remember Brooks Jensen and somebody else? I said they sounded like Black and Decker. They were trying to make him a kind of a working class blue collar Southern tag team. One of them is the son of Bull Buchanan. Oh. Which I would keep him if I knew which one he was. remember they also made him look stupid with all the
Starting point is 02:56:33 NXT girls because he wanted to date one or whatever the fuck was going on on we'll keep Brooks Jensen if he's related to the Bull Buchanan family and revamp his gimmick completely from the Creed brothers Brutus Creed well it doesn't matter which Creed brother we're talking about because
Starting point is 02:56:54 I think those guys are just mis-fucking cast they're awkward, they don't get, they're not natural workers. I know they're tremendous athletes and they can show their strength and whatever. But I haven't liked any of their work. I thought the guy's flying ass blow was fucking dangerous when he'd land his fat ass on people. And they just look like, they look like narcs and amateur wrestling gear. And they don't get the pro stuff.
Starting point is 02:57:27 and I don't know that we're going to live long enough. I think these are another two Shane twins. That's my opinion. So they're gone. On the topic of announcers, not necessarily commentators, I don't know if he does that, but he does backstage microphone holding, Byron Saxton.
Starting point is 02:57:47 Well, by the bye, Byron, we'll put you over on the crew. There you are. So you're keeping him? We're keeping him on the TV crew. He can hold a microphone. He does a good job. Not on commentary, but doing the other things. Candice Leray.
Starting point is 02:58:04 Oh, Jesus Christ. We need to get Candy Leroux completely out of the company. I mean, seriously, an underachieving indie level, bland, boring, now over the hill, talent, I use that word loosely, that never fit in with the fucking world-class athletes and the major fucking mamma jamas they've got on the women's roster in the WW. She's indie and she got in because her husband Johnny Same Face apparently has pictures of Sean Michaels with a goddamn goat. Because the female Johnny Same Face is Candy LaRue.
Starting point is 02:58:50 The male Candy LaRue is Johnny Same Face. They're indie, Unremarkable Athletes doing moods. but yet they persevere here in this and I don't understand how. I don't know this person. I'm assuming you don't either. Carly Bright. You'd be very bright to assume that. I don't know who the fuck that is.
Starting point is 02:59:15 Carmelo Hayes. Boy, how do you, what was he like the number three draft pick? Maybe hire and then got on TV and went on a 15 match losing streak. and yeah, no, no, there's nothing there. Backstage interviewer, Kathy Kelly. Is she the one that is good or the one that's like all the other ones? Jackie Redmond is the good one. Jackie Redmond's very good.
Starting point is 02:59:49 Yes. Yeah, Kathy Kelly, no, fuck Kathy Kelly. Well, she's all right. I don't mean to say that. We might keep her around for that. All right. Be night, can you behave yourself? Well, no, I want, Jack,
Starting point is 02:59:59 Jackie Redmond, because she's the only girl interviewer that actually sounds like she's a legitimate sports personality. The rest of them sound like they're just doing script reading. All right. You already kept Chad Gable. You already gave up on Stacks. Apparently his real name or his wrestler name is Channing Stax Lorenzo. What about Charlie Dempsey, the son of William Regal? I have not seen him the first time. Have you? I think I've seen him in some like backstage vignettes when I've gone past that next. team, but I don't think I've seen him wrestle, no. Okay, well, if he was any good,
Starting point is 03:00:35 we'd have seen him by now. So, I mean, we could hire every wrestler in the world. They've got the money, but let's just concentrate on who we can, within the next couple of years, make something out of us. Gee, some of the photos they picked here. Jim, what about Charlotte
Starting point is 03:00:50 Flair? Of course, we're keeping Charlotte Flair. Everybody will go into fucking chaos about it, but she's goddamn major fucking name. What about Chelsea Green? You know? Eye keep her. Well, that's the thing is
Starting point is 03:01:10 it's so over the top and so phony, but she's so committed to it, the whole personality and the finger pointing and the puns and the whole nine yards and the flousy outfits. I'll keep her too. Can't stand to watch her, but what a heel that makes her.
Starting point is 03:01:31 What about Chris Saban? Chris, well, we got to have the Sabin to the Shelley. CM Punk. I think we could probably find a place for him on the card, just maybe to put somebody over. How about Cody Rhodes? Cody Rhodes, Cody Roads, Cody Roads, Cody Roads, Cody Roads, Cody Roads. Cody Roads.
Starting point is 03:01:57 Yeah, we got to keep Cody Roads. We're in the seas. And I think we have as many people I've kept as I kept in the whole AEW roster. This is going to get crowded. But we thought there were a lot of these people, there's nothing to matter with them. But if you went back and took another look and you were jelling it down to the 20, 20 or 25 top money ball players, a lot of wouldn't make it. But there's no reason to fire them either. So we'll see what we end up with.
Starting point is 03:02:26 Go ahead. Jim, as a commentator, Corey Graves. I keep Cory Graves He's new, he's young, he's hip, he's with it It's been there a while I don't know if I'd say new Well compared to Michael Cole Who's been there
Starting point is 03:02:43 Longer than dirt He's so old I did his first show What about Cruz del Toro Can he cruise on out of here? I'm assuming this is an NXT person Cutler James Oh, well, let's cut him. Damien Priest.
Starting point is 03:03:09 We got to keep Damian Priest. If for nothing else, then if we can't figure out a way to repackage that a little bit, then he can put some people over. Seemingly from NXT Chen. We saw him. We did? Do something at some point. I recognize that name.
Starting point is 03:03:34 I don't think he's very good. so he goes how about dexter lumis oh boy that i said i wasn't going to take bad booking out on anybody but that the whole wyatt thing needs to be stopped um there's something to dexter lumus he can do shit for a guy his size etc remember i liked him a few years ago then he disappeared then he showed up in the wyatt thing and i try not to look let's keep him and figure out somebody else for him to be. Another NXT person. Dionneux.
Starting point is 03:04:15 Another firing Dionneux. Again, yeah. Gams up with these names. Oh, my God. It's just, it's interchangeable fucking just bland names.
Starting point is 03:04:29 Dragon Lee. Oh, God. How quick can we get rid of him? Jesus Christ. Maybe him and Mystico can team up and go stink the joint out somewhere else. Drew McIntyre. Obviously, he'll be at the top of the car. He's one of the great eight.
Starting point is 03:04:51 And I mean, we're only in the D's. And already, not even talking about Sina because he's part-time now. Gunther, hold on, I'm going down for main event players. Gunther, we've got Brock. We got Braun Breaker. We got C.M. Punk. We got Cody Rhodes. We got Drew McIntyre.
Starting point is 03:05:13 We got six fucking main event level stars, and we're only to the D's. But do you have Edress enough? I've had too much of enough. So let's have less. What about Elton Prince from the tag team Pretty Deadline? Oh, God. Can we fire him and then rehire him? him so we can fire him again. That is the
Starting point is 03:05:40 worst looking team, worst team gimmick, worst working team, worst sounding team. I bet they smell bad. What about Eric Rowan? He's the red bearded fellow with the Wyatt's right? That is right.
Starting point is 03:06:00 I'd release him so he could go join Brody King. I think they used to be partners and they'd look good together. Was he partners of Brody King? I think he was, wasn't he?
Starting point is 03:06:14 Weren't they in some kind of group? His partner's of Brody Lee, but he's the one who passed away.
Starting point is 03:06:19 Oh, wrong, Brody. Well, he's not going to go do that. Not going to go do that now. Well, he
Starting point is 03:06:25 could do what he wants. Jim, what about Eric? From the war Raiders, I presume. I'm going to keep both the
Starting point is 03:06:37 Vikings. They're the Raider, Eric Raider, and what's the other guy's name? Ivar?
Starting point is 03:06:44 Ivar Raider. Okay. There's something in there. They were goofy as the Vikings. They're better as the war raiders. But just two big, fucking nasty-looking guys like that, if you started them out with a logical halfway decent gimmick
Starting point is 03:07:02 and just let them do their thing, they can work. Maybe a manager would help. What about Fallon Henley? I think unless she's going to do Don's parts in the concert, she needs to go. Grayson Waller. Please, how far can we send him? You just hate him. You don't think just anything there.
Starting point is 03:07:33 No, nothing redeeming whatsoever. Well, you're consistent. Well, I mean, look at it. Bad physique, bad gear, bad haircut, bad promo, because it goes on forever because somebody told him he can talk and now he won't shut up. And the booking is horrible and what's good about it? What about Ilya Dragonov? Where is he gone?
Starting point is 03:08:03 I think he got hurt, didn't he? God damn, did he get run over by a train? We haven't seen him in years. Yeah, I would love that kid. I'd keep him in a heartbeat. from the women's division Ivy Nile Can we send her on a cruise
Starting point is 03:08:23 Up the Nile? Up the Nile, okay. Up the Nile. What about Izzy Dame? What? Izzy Dame. This is another one of the superstars in
Starting point is 03:08:34 developmental and NXT. Izzy Dame. Well, is he a dame? It's a girl. No, it's a woman. It's a girl? Well, okay, then give her her walking papers.
Starting point is 03:08:47 you already said you would keep Jackie Redmond Jacob Yes I got to write her name down now that There you go Jacob Fatu I think we can We can probably let him hang around a little while There you go
Starting point is 03:09:02 Now you are we up to seven main eventers now And we will finish with Jay And then we'll pick up again next time I was about to say we're only at Jay We've been doing us for a fucking hour How many people Jim what about Jade Cargill I'm thinking thinking thinking
Starting point is 03:09:24 she looks like a star if you set her matches up she has produced but at the same time is she is she progressing by leaps and bounds from where she was at AEW now that she's getting training or are they still
Starting point is 03:09:41 setting her shit up step by step and I mean there's something there let's keep her let's keep her from NXT I presume Jada Parker that's right she was one of the Parker gang along with Mall Parker. Oh, I'm sorry, that was a Batman villain. Yeah, I don't know about Jada.
Starting point is 03:10:08 What about Jasmine Nix? Let's nix her. How about Javan Evans? What in the world is going on with these names? Let's move on, Javon. I would keep Javon Evans. I think he's 21 or 22 years old, got height. he's athletic and he'll fill out more,
Starting point is 03:10:30 connects with the fans. You know, he's only going to look so good under Sean Michaels' style of entertainment. At least until I've seen him, let's keep him. Jay Uso. Gotta keep Jay Uso.
Starting point is 03:10:47 I would have a talk to him about certain aspects of his comeback timing, but otherwise we've got to keep him. He's over. Jimmy Uso I think you got to keep Jimmy Uso because he's again part of several of the intricate
Starting point is 03:11:06 stories of the last couple of years but it's going to be a natural progression to whereas they're just always going to think more of J than Jimmy now they're not really going to reverse that Wakeen Wilde what who what did he do
Starting point is 03:11:29 when have I seen him I know the name. I've read it. Wasn't he the one that, I forget where it was, because Carrie Silken was in the room with you and there was one other person where you guys did that TV special,
Starting point is 03:11:39 which showed like you guys doing Ring of Honor tryout promos? Oh, yes, he didn't have that name then, but he was another person there. DJ Zimo, Zima Ion or something like that? Zimo, Zemo, yes. God damn, where's he been? You've seen him lately?
Starting point is 03:11:58 He was one of the Lucha suits. Oh, I think. Well, no wonder, no wonder we can't find him. There's six of them and they all look same, act the same and interspersed with each other. I mean, we could hire Howie the mailroom guy too, but I don't really know what Joaquin is doing right now. Let's put him, let's send him back to the pond and we'll catch him later when he's grown. Joe Gacy. Oh, good Lord, that's that outlaw-looking guy in the Wyats, right?
Starting point is 03:12:35 He does a lot of... That is correct. Indy shit and handstands, but he looks like a half-baked brown and serve roll. Yeah, let's not have him around anymore. On commentary, Joe Tessatori. Joe, oh, Joe Tessitori ain't doing too bad. We've got to put him over on the broadcasters list. Johnny Gargano.
Starting point is 03:12:59 Oh, good Lord. Yeah, everybody knows where I'm putting him. Hold on, I'm going to have to start a new page here. Only a few more names here on the list for Jay. On the Jays. Jordan Grace. Have we seen her at all? She signed, but she never showed up.
Starting point is 03:13:23 We saw her in the Royal Rumble, I think, a few times. I think it was twice. That's why I say a few times. I think it was twice, but I've seen her on a few ennex. things, I don't know if you would have. Well, let's keep her for the moment. Old Butterface. Me and her are friends from way back.
Starting point is 03:13:44 Two more names here. I assume this is NXT. Josh Briggs. That's what it was. Briggs and Jensen instead of Black and Decker. I don't remember which one is which, but I want whichever one Bull's son is. He's got to have it in his jeans.
Starting point is 03:14:04 What's this guy's name? Josh Briggs I don't think he's the one Does that pass the name test? Should any heel be named Josh? Well, I mean it to if it's a fucking job guy, Josh is a fine name, but if you're talking about a main event
Starting point is 03:14:21 fucking star, I don't know that Josh Briggs, either one passes the test. And finally, Jim Julius Creed. Well, I've already written him down with his brother. Get rid of him back in the bees. we have there's there's 26 lines of on a notebook pad paper and we have gone through approximately a hundred names and only gotten to the jays but i got to admit it's it's
Starting point is 03:14:52 almost exactly half and half i've kept about five less than i've thrown away with a e w i had everybody i kept on one sheet of paper and there was three pages of get rid of them. So they're doing some right. But again, we're keeping on in both companies. We're keeping some guys just, well, there's nothing wrong with them. They could be on the card. You could repackage them. But then if you went down to polishing, you would say, okay, well, there's 10 of those guys and I only need four. So six more might go. And one's kind of the same as the other. You just have to kind of figure out, you know, and the thing is, if you're a, if you're a movie director or a movie studio, you don't hire every goddamn actor in Hollywood for the same movie. You want to keep some out there.
Starting point is 03:15:51 Hey, if this is a hit, we'll do a goddamn sequel. And then we can bring some other new actors in to interact with the stars of our franchise. So it doesn't mean you never wanted to use them. But they ain't done to write home about right now that you need them. That type of thing. Well, that was the WWRoster A to J, at least according to www.com. And if we can't trust them, who can we trust? That's a question you got to ask yourself, Brian.
Starting point is 03:16:25 You know what other question you got to ask yourself? What's that? are we fucking done we are it's time to celebrate well in that case bang bang go the fireworks and we will see you folks on the drive-through at a few days and until then for brian i am jim thank you fuck you say bye bye everybody

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