Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 596: Streaming

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite, and talks about WWE's many streaming deals, mysteries around Hulk Hogan's death, Cracker Barrel, ratings, and more! Thanks to our episode sponsor...: SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/jce HELIX:  Go to helixsleep.com/jce for 27% Off Sitewide exclusive for listeners of the Jim Cornette Experience!  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornett. The keys to the future. He'll by Hornet. Fornett experience. I, of course, am Jim Cornett. And where, oh, where has my TV wrestling gone?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Oh, where, oh, where can it be? We're going to try to figure it out today. We're going to draw you some diagrams. Stick around. something and joining me for all this and more Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. Co-host to you, he's the sweet Pauli purebred of podcasting. Be great, Brian last everybody. Aloha Jim, the Simon Barr Sinister of this podcast. A pleasure to be here once again.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Another action-pack show. We'll see where we go. I didn't think you wanted to be the bad guy. Simon Bar-Sinister. I wanted to be the bad guy. I knew you wanted to be. Are you trying to control the weather to take over the world to whatever else that Simon Barr Sinister would do before the call would go out from far and near for underdogs? Can we get underdog? The other night, the Dick Van Dyke episode was on where he was running for political office against Wally Cox.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And I showed my son. I was like, that's underdog. He's like, what? That's, that's, listen to his voice. that's underdog he didn't believe me you know that's how Gary Jester got in show business
Starting point is 00:02:27 he was Wally Cox's stunt double Is that right? That must be my boy I liked them so much well my boy you know they got along well in Atlanta in the in the penthouse years I got a news update for you
Starting point is 00:02:44 we got the news going on down here I told you about it originally on the show we did a few days ago Brian about the man with the head, the man that cut the head off the other man who was his father and then brought it to his mother. Oh, this again?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Are there's more about this? Well, there's more of this because now come to find out, and for the people who may have missed the previous program, over here in Southern Indiana the other day, this young man who now that we've seen him on television
Starting point is 00:03:13 when they've hauled him into court, he looks like Pauly Shore 30 years ago if he was homeless and confused. And this guy went to his father's house and killed his father and decapitulated his father's head off his body and left a body there, which, yeah, you're always supposed to, from what I've been told by the hunters,
Starting point is 00:03:36 you're always supposed to, if you kill something, you're supposed to use all of the carcass. But he left his father's body there. So you heard from the hunters? That's what I've heard from the hunters. and then he took the bag or took the head and put it in a bag it wasn't a duffel bag come find out it was apparently just a regular old grocery plastic bag with the two little handle dinghies on it and he took the head of his father over to his mother's house and he walked in he said hi mom
Starting point is 00:04:09 I've killed my father because he's the most evil man in the world here's his head and a four-hour SWAT team standoff then followed that, and then he came out. But remember I said it was not too far from the Featherbottoms estate to the news update, one of them is, it was his Hotchkiss Featherbottom's father-in-law's street that this guy showed up with the head in the bag at. And they shut everything down. Hotchkiss was turned away from a bank. They didn't know the extent of what was going on.
Starting point is 00:04:47 They had two apparently independent crime scenes where we found a fucking guy's body. He's got no head. Wait a minute. This some bitch over here's got a head. Shut everything down. Hachkis walks up to the bank. They locked the door in front of him.
Starting point is 00:05:04 He said, no, we're closed. It's a swat. I'm sure he's used to that. I'm sure he's used to that. Well, normally they wait until they pick him up on camera. but in this case they were just you know and so and everybody had to just shelter in place there until they determined all the heads were in the right places with the bodies and the perpetrators had been had been put in under some type of custody and now the guys in court and they're thinking about sending him to a mental evaluation what i believe that last word i heard was they're thinking about, they're thinking that might be a good idea.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And his lawyer was saying, yeah, right now, because see, he's in jail, he's bashing his head into the concrete floor, blion, blind. That's what he's doing. He's blashing his head, blion, into the floor and busted himself open
Starting point is 00:06:05 and then they'll stitch him up, and then he's ripping the stitches out. So they're going to, they're going to send him somewhere where people can keep an eye on him. What a hill. well it's a good way to get out of jail and into the hospital but this this is the most unintimidating looking motherfucker here's that that's the problem this guy would not make
Starting point is 00:06:26 an intimidating car parking attendant right you would he would just be walking down the street you wouldn't look at this guy sideways twice just a putz of a human he's walking around with fucking heads in a bag well not plural but a head. But I don't know if he's done this before. We've got to track down the fucking missing head list. But what the fucker? What the fucker?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Are you supposed to say, you're supposed to be scared of the big scary people, but here's this motherfucker over here with a head in a fucking Walmart bag. Well, they say it's never who you suspect. But we need to get the heads without bodies. Everybody, it's got to be somebody. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:07:14 now. Can you disprove me? If you suspect everybody, then it has to be somebody. So you're suspecting the right person eventually. All right. Well, this is a local news. That was the local news. He said his lawyer said he's not really a danger to the community, more of himself. I don't know how he got to drop on his dad. I'm sorry. Let's get it right to you're never going to see the fucking street ever again. Cutting people's heads off. The lawyer says, He's more a danger to himself. I don't know if he keeps bashing this. When he first showed the footage of him walking in court on the news,
Starting point is 00:07:56 I was like, what the fuck he looks like with a goddamn mutants in the outer limits where his brain was growing at a, because it later found out is because he smashed his head against the floor. I don't think this guy's going to be, oh, no, he's got a big old Duke Myers fucking head. It's a five head, not a forehead. And I was like, did they take it out on him?
Starting point is 00:08:21 What the fuck is he wanted somebody else's head to have a normal head? What is behind this? And then they said it was because he was bashed his head into the concrete cell floors. So I don't think he's going to be seeing straight much longer anyway. A nice girlfriend could have fixed all this, but he's gotten a different old pack. Well, I don't. Boy, he would look silly if he'd had his girlfriend. friend's head in a bag.
Starting point is 00:08:49 That's not what I meant, but let's get away from decapitation and duffel bands. Well, let's go to national news. Have you heard about the big national controversy now, sweeping America? Folks beyond our borders, yes, silly Americans have done it again. The big problem facing the world today,
Starting point is 00:09:09 have you seen this, Brian Cracker Barrel is changing its logo. Did you hear about this? Yeah, I saw it, and I know it's a big issue for a lot of people. I think I've been to Cracker Barrel maybe once in my entire life, so it's not a big issue for me, but obviously this is a hot-button issue right now in the country. Well, I'll tell you how hot. I've been to Cracker Barrel many, many times. I'm a confirmed Cracker Barrel consumer veteran of many years, and the story is for people who may not know about this, is that CrackerBits,
Starting point is 00:09:44 It's an old country store fashion themed, casual dining. Dining may be a little too glorious. I like the food, but it's a casual place. You go in and sit down, you get the old Southern cooking or a facsimile there for very reasonable prices, and you get to buy a bunch of junk in the gift shop on the way out. And for years, they have had a logo of like a bank. barrel, the cracker barrel. In the old country stores, they had crackers in a barrel.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Just live with it. Just assume that that's a fact, kids. I don't have time to go into details. And it says cracker barrel. And then they've got a guy sitting on a rocking chair, which they have rocking chairs for sale, porch rockers, the old wooden ones, out on the goddamn front of the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And there's a guy sitting there in a rocking chair that says cracker barrel in the barrel. And now they have, have made a change, they're just going to have a barrel that says Cracker Barrel. But here's the thing, Brian. I've been going for all these years. And I know that I can see the Cracker Barrel sign from a mile away because it's the orange barrel and there's some orange and it says Cracker Barrel.
Starting point is 00:11:01 But once that my head and mind has absorbed that it says Cracker Barrel, it was not until they, everybody started freaking out over it that they called my attention to it, that I even knew that there was an old man in a rocking chair sitting next to that. It just faded into me. I see Cracker Barrel. I go. But you were only looking at the barrel, not the Cracker. I was looking at what the goddamn sign said,
Starting point is 00:11:28 so I'd know where it was instead of worried about what their goddamn artsy-fartsy logo was. It was kind of... Artsy-fartsy. Mushy and ill-conceived and didn't really stand out anyway. But that's the thing now. all the crackpots and the shit kickers in the world. The burning issue that they've got is that they took the orange guy out of the logo.
Starting point is 00:11:54 That's why the country is in the shape it's in. We ain't got no old man rocking in a chair and a cracker barrel logo. Watch out, Wendy. Wendy's naked. You know what? Watch out, Wendy. They need to slut Wendy out. Whoa, I don't know if I would say it like that.
Starting point is 00:12:12 No, no, they need to turn Wendy's into a hamburger hooters. That's what that's about after they've fucked up the patties and they fucked up the whole decor and the motif and they fucked up the French fries and they fucked up everything else they've ever done after I loved them for so many years and I was scorned and spurned or scurned and sporned. The least they could do slut Wendy out.
Starting point is 00:12:40 we want hoorers in short shorts and low-cut tops bringing us our burgers. The Heart Attack Grill had the right motif. We want boobs and burgers, and we'll like it. I think there's money left on a table that there's no burger place like with a separate, almost like a motel where you could take a nap right after attached to it. They wouldn't even have to do that. They could just have the modify the booze. slightly to kick back like recliners and everybody could go ahead and catch a few zees right
Starting point is 00:13:19 there. So what do you eat at cracker? Sometimes with the burger sitting on their chest. So what do you eat at crackerbrows? Like mashed potatoes and bread? Like, oh, we got cornbread. Potatoes and bread. We got great corn bread here and we got some apple cider. What do they have there? No, it's it. You've got the full country breakfast experience if you want it. the fried eggs and the bacon and the sausage and the hash browns and the fucking pancakes or the waffles and the syrups and things or I always get the chicken fried chicken with the gravy on top, the sawmill gravy, I believe as they call it. And as long as they don't change the hash brown casserole recipe, I don't give a shit what their
Starting point is 00:14:06 logo looks like or the chicken fried steak or the chicken fried steak or the pot roast or the fucking heaping side vegetables of things and such. That sounds like a good deal. The heaping side of vegetables and such. Yes. Yes, things of that nature. And did I mention the hash brown casserole? But the one thing they're doing, I'm actually not happy about,
Starting point is 00:14:33 but as I said, as long as it's the same food, I could get over it, instead of having all the old implements and the tools and the signs and the farm things, hanging on the walls. Now they showed the new design where everything's kind of lined up evenly in little frames or whatever, and it just, it looks like the commissary at a courthouse.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. And I don't like that. Whether it's fast food or any national restaurant chain, it's like they've all lost their character. Everything is just stale. Well, now are you talking about the food or the ambiance? I was talking about the ambiance. I mean, we wouldn't get through food.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I've never been to some of these places that you frequent. well you that's why you have such poor taste in food because you don't go to the cracker barrel often enough what about your recent trip to outback steakhouse is that still the same milieu as it had 15 years ago 20 years ago when you would go outback is very consistent very consistent and and again you know they may have changed the goddamn art on the walls or whatever but as long as the food is is still the same thing, then I'm not going to object or whatever. But they don't say good day mate as much as they used to. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:51 This is your show. Thank God. This is your show. The way you were just asking me questions, I thought it was yours. I was waiting for you to do something. All right. You know, and here's another thing. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Oh, no. You always find problems when I have happiness. You should have seen a scene last night. We looked out the back window. and there was the two daddy deer and the mama deer and the two little deer. Now they're getting bigger. They're growing.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And they were grazing out under the red bud tree. And we pitched them some apples and Peg Bundy, the mama deer. She took the apples and thanked us with her little paw movements and everything. And then they just roamed around the backyard and lased in the grass and just a peaceful wildlife and tranquility. I actually had a nice, happy moment there, which you always take the piss out of when I'm praising the beauty and majesty of my wildlife.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Well, you don't own it. Well, I'm sort of adopting them. It's sort of like a, what do they call it, common law, parentage. How would you deal with a competitive neighbor? We just decided to coexist. How would you deal if you had a neighbor who wanted to feed them, just a little bit more than you did, and kept trying to get them to their property and away from you.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Well, no, they don't stay 24 hours a day. They wander around. There's several expansive properties, and then the woods over behind that. And so they, but they know to come here for a pleasant and protected meal and a nice lounging around, and the apples. Did I mention the apples?
Starting point is 00:17:38 All right. How do you like these apples? yeah well how do you like them apples all right before we get started on anything else i've got a pen here and i got a piece of paper and i want you to try to help me work out how the hell where the hell who to hell that we can watch all the wwes programming at now because for the last couple of shows i've been saying well they're changed and this and that over here and this to there and this fucking streaming and a blah blah blah and now they've just made another announcement that they've apparently just told
Starting point is 00:18:19 peacock to get fucked and that they've purposely added well this was not the only purpose i'm sure part of the purpose was they made millions of dollars on these other things too but they added the premium live events to their to their schedule this year's they could get out of the Peacock deal early, and now, starting next month, all the big shows are going to be on the ESPN app that only came into existence less than 24 hours ago, I believe, as we sit here right now. What? Yeah, there's a lot there to go over. I guess the big point is AEW is just on Max, and that makes it easy to remember, and their
Starting point is 00:19:10 paper views are on TV. They're on TNT as well and fucking TBS and those various things also. Now, WWE, if we're talking about an average month, let's say, let's start with Monday, Monday Night Raw, easy. That's on Netflix. Okay, hold on. I'm going to write these things down and I'm going to ask you a couple of questions. Now, Raw is on Netflix and we have every reason to believe it's going to be there at least for a little while, right? I believe they signed a 10-year deal, but maybe they could do like a month worth of Rawls to get out of that deal early or something. Yeah. And who owns Netflix?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Who is the big multimillionaire billion dollar conglomerate that owns Netflix? I believe it is a publicly traded company. But it's just by itself. It's not owned by goddamn T-K-O or F-U-C-K. They wish. They wish.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They're just. just Netflix is a big old thing all by itself. That's right. Okay, then now they got the Smackdown. Where's Smackdown going to be? Well, before we get the Smackdown, don't you want to get the Tuesday night? I forgot about Tuesday. As you always do.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Tuesday night, NXT on the CW. And the CW, and that's actual real television. Who owns the CW these days? Great question. Let's find out. Google that thing, right? Let's find it because... Here we go.
Starting point is 00:20:42 It wasn't, hold on, it started out as the WB network, and then it was the fucking... The other network that had a C in it somehow. I can't even remember it out of 20 years ago, and then they combined to be the CW network. 75% of the CW network is owned by the Next Star Media Group, and the remaining percentages are owned by Paramount Skydance Corporation, Warner Brothers Discovery
Starting point is 00:21:09 And oh, that's it They each own Warner Brothers Discovery and Paramount SkyDance each have 12.5% ownership. So Warner Brothers Discovery that is the AEW
Starting point is 00:21:22 of Birds Nest on the ground owns 12% of the network that airs in XT. And also the Paramount people in SkyDance, they've got a lot of stuff these days and whoever the fuck next The Next Star Media is.
Starting point is 00:21:38 That's CBS. Yeah, CBS. So, Nexstar has a lot of it, and they got a lot of money. NextStar is an American publicly traded company with headquarters in Irving, Texas, Midtown Manhattan, and Chicago. It is the largest television station owner in the United States, owning 197 television stations. Jesus Christ. Most of which are affiliated with the four major U.S. television networks. my network TV in markets as large as New York and as small as San Antonio, Texas.
Starting point is 00:22:11 It also operates its own stations owned by certain affiliates, such as mission broadcasting and Vaughn Media under local marketing agreements to satisfy existing regulations set in place by the FCC. They own WGN. Good guy. Okay. And by the 197 markets. Antenna TV.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Antenna TV. So they're everywhere in some fashion or another. But when I used to follow this, there were only like 220-something television markets in the United States. So they're probably everywhere but fucking Wolf Whistle, fucking Alabama. Well, they're bigger than Sinclair? That's what that says.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yes, by a lot. Yeah. Okay, so that was Tuesday. That's right. Now what about Fridays, Smackdown? Of course, we'll see what happens, but we probably should mention TNA on Thursday. That's on AXIS, which is owned by the company that owns TNA,
Starting point is 00:23:11 but they are actively looking for a deal right now. And why wouldn't you think that W.W.E isn't right there helping them out? Because they're so compassionate for little small wrestling organizations trying to get a break. You do what we say. We help you, as long as you do what we say. But let's get now to Friday, Smackdown. Smackdown. The other of the shows that I've got, the wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:35 and Smackdown that I try to, or no, don't try to, but am allegedly supposed to keep an eye on every week. Where is this going now? It is currently on the USA Network as part of NBC Universal. And I don't know why I got to check how long the contract is. Who owns NBC Universal? Comcast. Comcast. There's another player in there.
Starting point is 00:24:01 They're a big player. Player. Playa. But now there's also, every once in a while, Saturday night's main event. That's right. And usually that is network television,
Starting point is 00:24:19 NBC. Boom, boom, boom. Now, they're not going to be on network television or any kind of goddamn broadcast television at all anymore, is what I'm, hearing, effective apparently immediately?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Apparently the ratings did so well for the Goldberg retirement that they decided to book head-to-head with AEW's biggest pay-per-view of all time, or one of them, in terms of buys, that they will now be on Peacock. I believe this would be the first time that Saturday Night's Men event wouldn't be, if it was on NBC for years, Fox for a couple years, and then brought back on NBC. But now it'll be on Peacock, obviously satisfying Peacock
Starting point is 00:25:04 in the sense that they have everything else being yanked away from them at the present moment. At least they'll get this. So they've screwed Peacock over Sabad and taken all their shit away from them. They said, here you can have our Saturday nights made events four times a year. And now they ain't on network TV anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And this means the John Cena's retirement show in December is going to stream on Peacock. how the mighty have fallen so who owns peacock NBC Universal Comcast the other fucking guys that what else do they own USA Network
Starting point is 00:25:52 USA Network they own USA I'm trying to draw these number or these arrows here so they pissed off the people at Peacock and then give them something to make up for it but the people at Peacock that they pissed off also own the USA Network,
Starting point is 00:26:10 or not the people at Peacock, but the people that own Peacock, own the USA Network that SmackDown is their last major television program that's even on goddamn cable. But wait, there's more, Brian, because the pay-per-views, which literally, and, you know, even 20 years, after pay-per-view became a thing, I would see people write it out as paper-view, like P-A-P-E-R-V-I-E-W.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Why? That makes no sense. Because they don't understand what the fuck they're talking about. That's why. Paper view. But we used to pay per view. And it was easy. We would pay and then we would view. and again, now I can't watch
Starting point is 00:27:11 I can't watch pay-per-view on fucking television in Louisville now anyway because I've got Spectrum and they have no more pay-per-view channel. So we're going to talk about that in a minute about this AEW fiasco coming up this weekend. I'm trying to get Stacey to load up something on the TV. I can watch this thing on. But the premium live events,
Starting point is 00:27:34 the former pay-per-views, the big shows, WrestleMania, Royal Robin, blah, blah, blah. They had announced that they were going to be going to the new ESPN gimmick, early next year, whatever, when his deal with Peacock was up. Now they've said, you know what? Since we did two nights of WrestleMania for the past couple of years and two nights of SummerSlam and added the women's pay-per-view, we gave Peacock all the big shows that we said we'd give them.
Starting point is 00:28:09 So now next month we're just doing this over here. It just became an existing entity on August 21st. We're sitting here on August 22nd talking about it. What is they call it the ESPN app thing? What is this thing called? Oh, I forget the exact name because they just changed it. is their direct-to-consumer product. Was it unlimited?
Starting point is 00:28:39 Was it ESPN Unlimited? Hold on me, check. I'm trying to find any notes that I have here that says what the thing is called. I see it called the new ESPN app. I don't know why you're looking at that. What the fuck the thing is called yet? And we've got four weeks to start to establish this and get this so we can watch the premium live events. from now on until the end of time.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And that's on... Who owns ESPN, regardless of whether it's plus or minus or app or whatever. ESPN traditionally was a major moneymaker for Disney. They're owned by Disney. ABC, Disney. Jesus Christ, okay, and ABC.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Why isn't the Tiffany Network, CBS, getting involved in this? Well, they own, uh... Oh, I forgot, they are. Paramount and Skydance and, yeah. You know, Jim, you're also forgetting AAA, whose big events have been streaming on YouTube. Well, where are they going to stream now? Potentially still YouTube, we'll find out.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Oh, well, so you mean the same place that I've been missing them up until now, I can continue to miss them without having to worry about getting, getting any different information. What I mean is WW, that's exactly right, but also WWE can put a AAA event up on YouTube and just let anyone in just to try to get attention or steal someone else's attention, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:30:21 They can just throw something up. They don't even have to worry about any of these big streaming platforms. Well, now what about the existing pay-per-views, the catalog, as they say in the business? The back catalog, all the big shows, the pay-per-views, all the many television series and things and such that they have produced and presented to us and put up on the network and then later on, I guess, on the cock to some degree. Where does that stuff go? I believe it's going to be on Peacock at least until next year.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And then we'll see. Peacock would obviously have an option to bid for it and try to keep it. It may be an attractive package for others. A lot of people presume YouTube. Who knows? And again, it could be one of these things like the pay-per-views where there's one deal for North America and another deal for the rest of the world because the pay-per-views, I believe, are on Netflix
Starting point is 00:31:21 everywhere else, aren't they? I don't know. I believe so. So if we had a good VPN, we could just go join Netflix in another country and watch all this stuff. This is getting to be a pain in my ass. I'm telling you that right now.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I know in all seriousness, and people are, how, Carlene, you're so old and you can't, you learn to use streaming and blah, blah, blah. I just think it's a fucking pain in the ass and much less convenient than the old-fashioned way of doing things. But have we just illustrated that if you were a die-hard,
Starting point is 00:32:03 ardent, WWE fan, that you still have to keep a list of where you can now watch their programs. It's so confusing, and things are moving around to such extent. And not only your point, Brian, that they're dealing with CBS, ABC, NBC,
Starting point is 00:32:29 and pretty much everybody, but who owns Fox these days? one of these other companies that owns somebody else. Fox owns Fox still. Okay, well then if they don't want a fucking wrestling program, then you're pretty much shut out of the big networks and all these other conglomerations. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And there's no way to do. Some of this stuff may just go away with a corporate whim. They're all way too big. to be concerned about, oh, we're going to lose wrestling? Are any of these people in a state of business where if they lost wrestling, it would make their stock go down
Starting point is 00:33:18 and cause dire consequences in their company, Brian? Well, I think it's one of those things where when you make a deal with WWE, it looks really good. ESPN is banking on wrestling fans right now. They're launching the app right this second and coincidentally enough, WWE's free, just around the corner,
Starting point is 00:33:34 they're launching it with WWE because they're relying on those fans being there. You have to wonder what Netflix feels. They had a big launch in January, the Rock showed up. I think it was like over 5 million viewers, maybe 6. I forget exactly what it was. I believe it was 6.
Starting point is 00:33:51 It ain't that anymore. And again, I know we're in the middle of summer and the bookings cooled off. And there's, I mean, there's always a pay-per-view right around the corner. but the TV has not been very good. Those numbers aren't as high as they were. When Netflix gets the year five, year six of this deal,
Starting point is 00:34:09 are they going to be happy? Do you have faith that Triple H is going to have another hot streak as a booker or two or three to get you there? There'll be hot things that get more viewers or new viewers. They're selling the wrestling audience everywhere. We have this audience. They are obsessed with our content. They'll consume all of it.
Starting point is 00:34:28 they make deals across the board, now they have to deliver the audience. And again, that's not, you know, it's the same as just writing two wrestlers in the main event and presuming the business it'll do and that no one will get hurt. It's a gamble. And we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:34:45 They're also burning out their audience. It's not even just old fuddy duttys like you who don't understand the streaming or anything. Even if you do, and you start adding it up. If you're going with the idea that the average young person today, they're not even cutting the cord, they've never had cable.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Everything's on their phone or their computer or their iPad or their tablet, whatever it may be. Good Lord, don't wonder, not going to hell. Everyone has Netflix. So, right, so that's right there. Raw is available if anyone wants it.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Not everyone has broadcast TV. So even NXT right there, unless it has a streaming component, and I don't know, actually, I've never looked into it, that's not necessarily available to everyone until it's clipped and put up on YouTube or something, YouTube available to anyone, anywhere. And then you look at USA Network SmackDown, same thing.
Starting point is 00:35:38 If these people don't have cable, what good is Smackdown being on cable? But there are people who watch cable. It's an older audience, and you're giving them a substandard show. So you're killing that audience. And then, again, the idea of pay-per-view or closed circuit or whatever it has been in the past is a little different with today's younger people. You know, they get their big pay-per-view events aren't big boxing events.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It's, you know, Jake Paul having a fake boxing match with a celebrity or whatever it may be. It's more about the bullshit factor than the actual athletic prowess or anything. Are they going to be so into the WWPA reviews that they're going to get the Zspan app for $30 a month because if they don't have cable and they don't, then there's no chance they'll get it for free.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Only some people do. You get it for free right now. I don't. They still have to make it deal with it. I don't even know what the name of it is. Well, exactly. And that's good, because who wants to pay $30 is some nameless thing? You don't understand.
Starting point is 00:36:38 But we don't get it for free here. So I would have to actually subscribe on top of my ESPN bundle with my cable, which is where ESPN makes all their money. I would have to do it over a year, all these services, all these ways. If you're going with the idea that wrestling fans are obsessed with your content and they want to watch everything, you're making them spend so much money. And that's before they go to a live event.
Starting point is 00:36:59 We've heard from a number of people. And not that this is necessarily the place to tie this in, but people who love WWE. And they went to an event in a relatively small town. I forget where it was. It may have been Kentucky or Tennessee. And WW returned a year later, and the ticket prices were like double.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Like it was like hundreds of dollars for ringside. And I know they have perks. They include like VIP, and you get to ask dumb questions to the wrestlers while they sit on the apron and act like they want to be there. Well, yeah, they ought to include a hand job at some of those prices. But everything right now is just grab every dollar you can as long as you can. And it's not necessarily a fan-friendly thing, whether it's how much money you have to spend
Starting point is 00:37:39 or just the process of trying to find the content. In some cases, it becomes easier to just wait for things to appear on YouTube after the fact. I saw somebody on probably Twitter, whatever the fuck, say, that Austin and McMahon was so successful because everybody had a boss, they wanted to punch and give the stutter to like Austin did to McMahon, an evil boss. And now the only people that can afford to go
Starting point is 00:38:07 to see the WWE are the evil bosses. And there's an element of that, but here's the thing, it's, again, they're getting all this money guaranteed so they could give two flying shits in that respect although they have to keep up appearances and, you know, the stock price can't fall and all that stuff. But it's just a larger, magnified, exponentially version
Starting point is 00:38:36 of what Christine Jarrett used to say. Wrestling fans are creatures of habit. And in the territory days, even the people who came every week for years without missing a show at a stretch, if the TV changed time or especially station but even if the regular station just instead of noon on Saturday it's 4 o'clock on Saturday even if you told some people
Starting point is 00:39:05 they still didn't get it and they didn't see it and that hurt your house in the long run or not in the law but that hurt your house when that happened and the same thing if promoters switched building for whatever reason. Anything that changed the pattern of the habit in these people's lives
Starting point is 00:39:29 that they figured wrestling around, it still would hurt. And so the casual people just completely fucking would be lost in the dust. And over a short period of time, they're changing
Starting point is 00:39:45 the way that everybody and the day or the time or the fucking cost or whatever of how they're watching all of this shit and they're going to fuck around and lose people that just don't want to go through it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 That's just from experience, just my small little fucking offering. And again, a lot of those things where you said wrestling fans are creatures of habit, a lot of those habits went away. Weekly live shows or semi-regular live shows in towns, those are gone. regular TV on broadcast TV
Starting point is 00:40:24 for the most part that's completely gone yeah apologies to women of wrestling or anything cable TV that's now gone yeah yeah and and with every one of these gons we've lost people we've lost volume of people that watch wrestling
Starting point is 00:40:46 not that they could do it because every one of these deals is for programming, it's for original content. But would it be more valuable to a company like WWE if you had one show or two shows, you can just air those on every single one of these things? As opposed to having so many different shows, so many different people, if you just had like one batch of stuff to pound into people's heads, I guess I should say, do you think that would be more valuable? well no because for one thing people aren't going to pay that much money if they're getting basically something that everybody else can see everywhere you know so it wouldn't be possible to do that anyway but then no because then you would just be you'd be flooding them with the same shit over and over every time they got a chance to watch wrestling they would probably have seen if they were really devoted what already what you're fucking
Starting point is 00:41:47 and show and or seen it somewhere else. And remember, we just talked the other day about, at one point in time in Louisville, they had two television shows. They had Jerry Jarrett's and then one of Goulis's tapes because they had TV on two different stations. So they would, it was still a lot of the same wrestlers and they could have the local promo segments, right? But I remember at one point, Nick just was trying to get Steve
Starting point is 00:42:17 Kovac over his top baby face. He was a fine worker and a nice fellow, but he was short, stocky, uncharismatic, and it wasn't a Memphis crew, right? And I swear to God, three or four different times over the course of like a three or four month period, they aired the goddamn Steve Kovac special show where it was like him in three or four different matches. And I was, I would turn it. off by that point.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I would turn off a wrestling show. So no, you can't just do one or two shows and put them on multiple outlets or that not only overexposes, but dilutes impact that it's not like an infomercial
Starting point is 00:43:09 where people are going to pick up the phone and call right now before midnight or whatever. It's just and that's the thing is there's never been a model like this and I don't know how long they can fucking keep it up where people will pay them this insane amount of money or corporations will
Starting point is 00:43:31 will pay them this insane amount of money when they're just jerking the programs back and forth onto these other platforms and it's just disruptive and expensive for the biggest fans and... And what about the partners? I mean... But it also, it puts the other fans in a forest.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It's like you're... You know, I might not even be able to find this fucking program I want to watch and all these other fucking programs. And what about their partners? You know, this Peacock thing where they're leaving, obviously their catalog is still there. The Saturday night's main event will be moved there. Do you think Peacock's happy about this?
Starting point is 00:44:09 We signed a deal with you guys until 2026. All of a sudden, you announced a flash of new premium live events. He got out of your deal early. Again, coincidentally, right around the same time this ESPN thing is launching, ESPN, I'm pretty sure Nick Con has placed a lot of executives there over the years, and maybe a lot of shows and a lot of talent. So you may not be happy about that. So at a certain point, WWE's whole thing of, we have all these viewers, we'll bring them to you. You may not want to do business with someone if their reputation is they're going to sign a deal with you and then immediately want to renegotiate and get out of the deal
Starting point is 00:44:45 if they can get more money somewhere else. And boy, they must think they're fans. The WWE must think that their fans are some kind of whores. Well, they'll just go willy-nilly any old stream that'll piss their way. Just spreading themselves out, prostate all across the floor for every streaming service and Tom Dick and Harriet comes along.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I think not. We've got to have some kind of morals, don't we? and the wrestling business? Well, that meant, and speaking, by the way, that may be a problem. Speaking by the way of the morals and the wrestling business and a whole nine yards, now that ESPN is in bed, so to speak, with TKO, W, W, et cetera, they've apparently taken down their AEW section, which is kind of like, you know, Newsweek magazine,
Starting point is 00:45:42 taking down their, you know, Moscow section or something, they're not journalism anymore. They're just a branch of the entertainment of sports now, correct? And that's really what ESPN has been for a long time. The coverage is dependent about who they're working with. NFL gets more coverage to anyone else when they're working with the NFL. When it's the NBA, the NBA gets all the coverage.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Baseball got fucked with coverage and how baseball is no longer going to be with ESPN. You know, we'll see what happens with the playoffs and stuff. stuff. AEW, this is part of the problem. It's not just the partners, but it's what comes with it. They're going to get shut out of the mainstream discussion. Unless someone dies on one of their events,
Starting point is 00:46:27 ESPN may not pay any attention to AEW going forward. Unless someone dies, unless they draw 100,000 people again, unless just something miraculous happens and it can't be avoided, and it's mainstream news. Miraculous doesn't, may fit the last one of the examples you gave, but I don't know what I mean. Be miraculous if somebody, it'd be miraculous every time somebody doesn't break their neck.
Starting point is 00:46:49 You know, I saw that Dave Meltzer wrote something, and I remember the name Josh Gross. He was an old MMA reporter. He did a book about Anoki versus Muhammad Ali. When ESPN did their deal with UFC years ago, they fired him because Dana White had problems with him. And all of a sudden, the independent reporter who asked tough questions was gone. and ESPN worked with the UFC for a number of years. So I shouldn't be surprised that ESPN got rid of AEW.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I don't know if it helps or hurts AEW to be quite honest with you. People weren't discovering them through that. Well, yeah, I was going to say, do you think anybody thinks, I need the latest AEW news, I'll check out ESPN. Never. So I don't think it helps or hurts AEW one way or another, but it definitely has the appearance of things. Well, anyway, speaking of appearances, one more thing before we move on to another subject,
Starting point is 00:47:47 they're appearing like they're going to do an AEW pay-per-view this weekend. And can anybody out there, well, I don't know whether they'll hear my voice that I'm speaking now before this show at 1 o'clock on Sunday afternoon. Is that what it is? I didn't even realize it. Yes. Because they're in London. They're in Lundinium.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Lord Fogg will be presiding. Stace can figure out how to order it But do I just Can I then just go on to this channel Or whatever the fuck This Prime video thing And watch it any old time Or do I have to be sitting there
Starting point is 00:48:25 Specifically when it's happening And I can never see it again Or what How does this work with streaming of these things? Well again I think you should look at this as a nice Sunny Sunday with wrestling in the afternoon Watch as much as you can live From what I gather, I've been looking into this because you've mentioned this before,
Starting point is 00:48:43 how am I going to watch this? And I didn't have an answer. I know you can get them through YouTube where you pay for it there. Amazon Prime has it. And from what I read, you could access a stream or a replay fairly quickly without any specific time being listed after the broadcast. Oh, thank God. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So, at the very least, it doesn't ruin my whole Sunday afternoon. I mean, we're talking about players before who's in the field. Remember, Amazon's still out there. Obviously, they're doing this with AEW, but this isn't like, you know, we have a big deal with AEW. This is like, we'll sell their events and we'll take our cut. But Amazon's still out there and they have a lot of original content and, you know, they're trying to make Prime a big thing for everyone.
Starting point is 00:49:27 So there's stole a lot of players out there. Yeah. Who's supposed to, wasn't Max supposed to do something with the AEW pay-per-views? It hasn't happened. But they don't? It hasn't happened. Apparently not a high priority. AEW right now is fighting a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Not to go too deep into this at the moment because I don't have the info in front of me, but it's the John Moxley lawsuit, I believe, where he hit me with the question guys. Oh, from the cameraman that was put into a fucking head halo by the vicious treatment that he received. Well, apparently they're fighting. By the hands of that demented killer and public menace, John Moxie. I'm just trying to try to keep fair here. Go ahead. But apparently, AEW is fighting an attempt by the other side to have them reveal who owns them. You know, who is actually the partners in Beatnik?
Starting point is 00:50:23 With Tony Kahn, we presume his sister, set up by their dad. Where does Warner Brothers Discovery fit in if they own 10%? Is that outside? Are they partners with Beatnik? Do they own a piece of beatnik? And again, if Warner Brothers Discovery really owns a piece of anything with AEW, why aren't the pay-per-views on Max?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Why don't they just put Ring of Honor content somewhere? More content. I mean, there's a lot of questions. It's almost like all of Tony's eggs are in the Warner Brothers Discovery basket. At the same time, WWE... Do you think that's because his balls are in their pocket? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:03 But the problem is, while that's happening, WWE's buying up all the other baskets. There's going to be nowhere else to go. If Warner Brothers. If David Zazlov leaves and the next person comes in and just says, I hate wrestling, why are we doing this? Put the Big Bang Theory on for two hours. That changes everything. They're going to lose their basket.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Oh, my God. Well, therein lies the problem is you don't know what you've got till it's gone. you can't trust that people aren't going to take things away from you these days. You're watching a favorite show on television, and it's gone. And the whole damn channel could be gone. And the network, you've got to run everything yourself, Brian. You have to own everything.
Starting point is 00:51:51 You have to follow your dreams. You have to be the boss so that you can control your destiny. And that starts by starting your own business, doesn't it? You know that. We've both taken those steps. you got to start your own business before you could be the master of your own destiny. And I think I could speak for Brian and saying that both of us have been masters of our domain for quite some time now and you can do the same thing with our friends at Shopify.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Would you concur with that, Brian? Good Lord, my ears are ringing now. Folks, Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States. and think about this. How often have you laid in bed at midnight scrolling through some website, hitting the button to add to your cart the thing that you've been looking for? Hey, you know, at buttons purple, it's the shop pay button, and people all over the world are fingering that button just like you are.
Starting point is 00:52:58 So if you're tired of staying up late at night, finger another people instead of letting other people finger you. Let's not use that. No, let's see. Did you need to set up your store with your dreams? Your dreams. So that you can be the one being fingered late at night by people laying in bed with nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:53:17 That's not how we're going to call it. It's not fingering. It's thinking and scrolling and using your finger to press the buttons you need. And the right button is the button for you and for your business. Of course, our friends of Shopify are, wonderful partners for our online store. We trust them. They've done great work for us,
Starting point is 00:53:36 and they could do that for you. Very simply, a great deal. First time, uh, buyers, tryers. Try it today. Jim. Try it to buy it. And buy it to try it.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You're just, Brian, you're all verclimped because of the, the success that we've had with our purple shop pay button. We've all, we've been raking in that money. Caching. Uh, our purple. shop pay button on the shirts that we feature here on the various programs. And well, the folks with their dreams, now that you can't sell our shirts, we won't let you do that, but you can sell your shirts.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So if you've ever wanted to put your face on a shirt and sell it to people, I've seen some of you. You might ought to figure out some other attribute on your body to put on a shirt to sell it to people. But nevertheless, if you want to sell something to somebody, then shop. Shopify is going to give you the leg up from day one with hundreds of beautiful ready-to-go templates to express your style. They'll tackle all the important tasks from inventory to payments to analytics. And your analytics are very important in business.
Starting point is 00:54:47 You need to know where all the anals are going in your ticks. And you can spread the word with built-in marketing and email tools to find and keep new customers. Shopify will do a dossier. on each potential customer and find out damaging information about them. No, they won't. And then you will use those as tools to keep those people customers. No. Or you're going to spread the word.
Starting point is 00:55:13 A pleasant thought. Everyone wants a partner that is willing to get down to the mattresses with you, but that's not what will happen, Jim. Now the mattress spot is later. We're not talking about that right now. Jim, you hear that noise. You know that can only mean one thing. It's time to make sure we get that information out there for the listeners
Starting point is 00:55:28 about this great deal with our friends at Shopify. Well, if you want to see less carts being abandoned, folks, and that's another thing. There's too many carts in the United States being abandoned. They have feelings, too. It's time for you to head over to Shopify. Chiching. Say where you'll hear that kind of sound like that. That's the one I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And sign up for your $1 a month trial period to start selling today. Shopify.com slash JCE is where you're going for your $1.1.5. a month trial period. Boom. You get that trial period. They put you on trial. If you come out a free man and not go into the local who scow. No.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Then for a dollar a month, they're going to work for you. They're going to make you a fortune. And you're going to hear bells and whistles and sirens and everything. Yeah. Shopify.com slash JCE. Did you hear that sound? That's the sound of money. of some
Starting point is 00:56:31 possibly being put into a blind man's cup. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, Shopify.com slash JCE. All right, Brian. Well, I guess we've got to address the latest controversies concerning Hulk Hogan. He's still in the news
Starting point is 00:56:55 and there's still stuff going on. Is this going to become... I'd, I don't even know, conspiracy theories or whatever. He's already being the victim of at least two different types of malpractices according to certain people, because they said he was the victim of medical malpractice in one of his last surgeries that cut a nerve that could have contributed to his death.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And then Brooke is out saying that the professionals that were responding to him have called or contacted her and say, oh, you ought to see the body cam footage of us going to get him, I guess, and taking him to the hospital? What the fuck is going on now? Yeah, this has all been kind of crazy. You know, it just comes on the heels.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I was reading an old interview at Ray Manzarek about Jim Morrison. He's like, one day he got a phone call from the manager. I was like, hey, by the way, Jim's dead. We had a funeral the other day. So what do you mean Jim's dead? What do you mean? Where are you guys?
Starting point is 00:57:59 Who paid for this? anything. And he kept saying, like, no one saw the body. All of a sudden, we all just heard he was dead. No one could explain what happened. I remember Morris Levy, the famous, infamous founder and owner of Roulette Records, a major player in music and publishing for a number of years. A large figure in the book, Hit Men. That's right. His promotion guy, Herb Rosen, was someone who, when I first started in the music business, took me under his wing. And I just remember Herbie saying, and he was half joking, but he always talked about Australia
Starting point is 00:58:32 and no one saw the body. So it's like, you know, there's enough of a thing there. With Hogan, when it came out, we were told heart attack, which again, anything could be, anything could prompt a heart attack, but we knew that it wasn't really a secret
Starting point is 00:58:49 that he was definitely dealing with a lot of medical issues. So it made you question exactly what caused the heart attack. If he was going through treatments for other things and dealing with other ailments where'd the heart attack come from. And you say Brooke Hogan's been talking about this, I have found it fascinating that she has been so out in the open about this. And it seems like the question she's asking are the ones that, you know, the answers
Starting point is 00:59:20 are starting to come in. I saw an interview with her on Bubba the Love Sponge. I ended up watching that. they hadn't spoken in whatever 12 years 13 years and she she doesn't just come out and say what it is but she seems to think that the people around her dad made bad decisions
Starting point is 00:59:38 she was worried about him maybe more than he was she cared and she was involved in all the medical stuff so she's like the expert more than anyone else more than Hogan's wife of the last couple of years she's the expert in the health of Hokogit and his health history and she's kind of been sounding the alarm that something was going on for a while
Starting point is 01:00:02 before she knew about the footage well and again going back to the the medical malpractice part I guess they're saying that the operation severed as I again I said some kind of nerve apparently it's connected to the diaphragm and controls breathing is what the report said from an occupational therapist at Hulke's house when he stopped breathing. So there was some type of medical or medical adjacent people on the scene when this happened.
Starting point is 01:00:42 But then back to Brooke, she's saying that a completely different thing, that people that were responding to this. have called her like, oh, I don't want to be quoted, but boy, you ought to look at the body camera footage. How do they get to it? You would almost hope if there was something nefarious with a family member that you would get that call, but how do they find you? Well, that's a good question.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I mean, she's, well, public people are sometimes often harder to get a hold up. If it was a call, yeah. Yeah, she needed to see the body camera footage and get a hold of the 911 tapes. because they supposedly contain information that could potentially shed enough light to change the narrative
Starting point is 01:01:30 everyone's been hearing. What the fuck? Is this, is it all a conspiracy theory to keep everybody in the news and the estate will be worth $500 million? Or is there a bunch of fucking chicanery going on around here? Well, I guess the first thing is the estate,
Starting point is 01:01:50 it sounds like, has a lawsuit. against this doctor, whoever severed the nerve. How does that happen? You hate hearing about that. Well, and also, apparently Brooke, at the time she made a statement, didn't know whether he'd been
Starting point is 01:02:06 cremated or whether it was going to happen or whatever. Apparently now, the last thing that I saw was he's not been cremated. They are going to have an autopsy. And, but the wife won't tell the daughter anything. And there you go. Hogan knows best.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I mean, you don't want to laugh about people's, you know, miserable family relations. But gee, many, Christ, this is just ridiculous. So what do you think, Brian? Well, here's Brooke Hogan's statement. Here's all I know. So stop speculating. Stop asking. I've also informed my brother of all of this information,
Starting point is 01:02:53 who is boots on the ground with everything. Fact. I've 100% gotten legit calls from professionals from police officers to nurses that were supposedly with my dad on the day of his death. Telling me, that's in caps, I need to see body cam footage
Starting point is 01:03:14 and I need to get a hold of 911 tapes because they supposedly contain information that could potentially shed enough light to change the narrative everyone's been hearing. Those same professionals felt so passionately about what they witnessed, they have continued to contact me
Starting point is 01:03:34 and pushed me to find specific answers to this very day. One would think they might call the police then if there was something that shady going on, but go ahead. They are quite literally putting their careers at risk because they feel so compelled to do the right thing. So, I mean, again, if there was a nerve issue, because if they're saying that the nerve affects the diaphragm, affects breathing,
Starting point is 01:04:00 and that all makes sense, but that doesn't mean, you wouldn't be on the body cam. Right, right, exactly. Oh, my God, I see it with my body cam. He's got a damaged fucking nerve. What, no, there's two different screwy things going on here. Is the first screwy thing,
Starting point is 01:04:20 the damaged nerve being floated as a cover story to cover up for the second screwy thing? Who knows? Because it's screwy. Yeah, what's on that, what could be on that tape? I mean, who was with him? His wife? An occupational therapist was there. Yeah, the 911 respondents.
Starting point is 01:04:40 What occupation was he therapy? Theraping. That's not how he was. Make me a construction worker. Yeah, he could be a double-knots spy. Get me a double-knot spy therapist. He's wondered what occupation the man on his deathbed would be studying for, but... Why was Vince driving so fast?
Starting point is 01:05:11 What was Vince up to that day? If Vince McMahon had died that morning, and he could have in that car crash on the Merritt Parkway. Yeah. Imagine you want to talk about conspiracies. If Vince McMahon was killed in a crazy accident, and that news broke, and then two hours later it broke that Hulk Hogan suddenly is dropped dead. That'd be like the biggest conspiracy theory in wrestling history.
Starting point is 01:05:41 That would, the matter, anti-matter explosion would just blow up the internet. But again, if they do have an autopsy, and especially since his daughter is speaking so publicly at this point, one would think that the wife would want the daughter to know what actually happened, so she'd shut the fuck up if nothing else, maybe. Unless the wife is. On that video acting like a nut. Yeah. Seriously.
Starting point is 01:06:12 They come in the room and the wife has the pillow over his feet. face. Oh, hello. I didn't know me you were here. We don't know. The point is, there's a malpractice suit. It sounds like from the estate against this doctor whose negligence may have led to the death of Hulk Hogan. But that wouldn't be crazy stuff on, that wouldn't be like, I'm putting my life at risk. Get the 911 tapes. Get the video. Get it all. I got to go. That's where it's like what could be on the video. Is it, you know, I don't want to presume anything, but this is one of the most
Starting point is 01:06:46 anticipated videos that Hulk Hogan has been involved in in quite some time. Man, if this video gets out there, he'll be the biggest star surveillance video ever. No one will ever be able to surpass that. Do you think it's going to be something so heinous that it will turn him completely
Starting point is 01:07:01 baby face posthumously? Oh, my God, I can't believe they did that to him. He's so, oh, I love him. Who else was there? Was Jimmy Hart there? Oh, come on now, poo-poo! What if he got on his megaphone. It's sort of like,
Starting point is 01:07:15 come out, Hulk, come on. Come on, Hogg, come on. Oh, God. Pooh, doesn't have any knowledge of any nefarious dealings going on.
Starting point is 01:07:29 While we're talking about Hogan, let's get it all out here. Did you see that Missy Beefcake got ejected from the funeral for calling Linda Hogan the C-word and Brian Blair had her thrown out?
Starting point is 01:07:37 What? No. Yeah, for real. You didn't see this? No. Hold on. Let me pull up the story. Someone said,
Starting point is 01:07:46 to me, and I figured you would have seen it. And ladies gentlemen, if you're a viewer of Dark Side of the Ring, Missy Beefcake is apparently the wife slash manager of Brutus Beefcake, and Missy is quite a piece of cake in her own right. Well, Jim, I'm seeing stuff here. Apparently, Brian Blair has claimed that Missy was ejected from the service, like I said, calling Linda Hogan
Starting point is 01:08:10 the C-word. Missy Beefcake is denying that she put out a statement saying, was not That's in caps thrown out. Linda attacked Brutus and put her hand in my face. Wait, what? She was yelling. Are we talking to our old? Are we talking a physical attack or was she just coming up yelling?
Starting point is 01:08:28 We're talking to the funeral. This is happening at the funeral. Well, this is her in the fence. They're all insane. Yes, they're all insane. So I just was not thrown out. Linda attacked Brutus and put her hand in my face. She was yelling for security.
Starting point is 01:08:43 When security got to us, they said, take your seat, it's okay, we will handle Linda. The security in the Tampa Bay cemetery business is on first name basis with Linda and how crazy she is. Well, then this may explain her other side. And then Brutus had a panic attack and we went outside to get air. He was unable to go back in. So they weren't ejected. It's just she was told, sit down, we'll take care of Linda.
Starting point is 01:09:16 and then Brutus had a panic attack. Good Lord. What a zoo. Again, a funeral. How do you get thrown out of a funeral? I read something the other day, too, that Matt Riddle went to the funeral, and his hair is now, like, red. And the quote I read it was from Matt Riddle. It was like, Shane McMahon walked up to him and sarcastically said, nice hair.
Starting point is 01:09:41 And Matt Rill was like, go fuck yourself. Like, what a funeral this must have been. I wish I was there. Everyone's feuding with everyone. It's like a weird wrestling soap opera. Ejections? Have you ever been to a funeral or someone was ejected? I've never, I haven't been to a ton of funerals, but I've never seen an ejection.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Who does the eject? I believe we've talked about it before. I've been to like six funerals in my entire life. I've seen dejected, but not ejected. And I haven't seen a lot of people cussing each other. at those particular functions. But maybe I just happen to drop in on the few where that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And Brian Blair is the one who said that Missy Beefcake got ejected. Brian Blair was the one Brutus was partying with when the parisailing accident happened. It all ties together. It's crazy. You'd think some of these people would have moved to a different state.
Starting point is 01:10:38 They don't seem to mix well. Well, we'll see what more. I'm fascinating to know what could be on these videos because the malpractice thing is being thrown out there, but that can't be what is on the video. It can't be, oh, my God, his nerve, that ain't it. There's something that Brooke Hogan's being led to believe is on that video. One would think it would have to, somebody was there,
Starting point is 01:10:59 there was some evidence of some mistreatment or, you know, something was a miss. And that you could see on camera or that you could hear on the 911 tapes or that you could piece together from both of the same. that still leaves a wide, wide spot open for interpretation. Well, we'll see what happens. You know, Hulkomania lives forever, he's immortal, and we'll be talking about him, obviously,
Starting point is 01:11:31 for a lot more segments in the future, because it keeps happening. Well, Waitel Abraham Zepruder brings the film in, and we'll go over that. I guess we ought to go over another film. Did you... we used to think that the AEW television program had crummy booking and was overly indulgent to the indie wrestlers. So they decided, we'll show you some crummy booking and overindulgency to the indie wrestlers. And Brian, this has turned into, I don't know what you can call it.
Starting point is 01:12:13 It's incomprehensible. It's like if you've had a wrestling party when you were a teenager and all of your friends came over and everybody decided they just play wrestling and they just do shit and everybody runs into other people's thing and they'd all want to be cool if we did this. And it's a can you keep track of what happens on this program without taking notes? I take notes. and I still can't remember what happened at the top of the segment by the time they get to the 21st person that comes out and does something, it's just a bunch of people running around fucking doing shit, isn't it? Well, there's a lot of the same people running around doing it.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Some of the people that get over just disappear off TV like the Hurt Syndicate. They appear like in a backstage vignette for a minute. But they're doubling and tripling down. on everything that appeals to their most hardcore core base. And I don't know if that resonates with everyone. The show is not fun to watch. You know, sometimes there's a lot of stuff happening and then other times things are happening for a very long time.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And it just takes forever. It's, I don't think it's very good. I think it's actually been a really bad show for a while. It's just this more action now in terms of like craziness. And again, we'll talk about the, the murder angle, I don't know what you want to call, the attempted murder angle,
Starting point is 01:13:48 but I'm not a fan of that kind of stuff. That's not necessarily people running around. That's just creative that I find insulting as a wrestling fan because it's too over the top. It's too preposterous. Well, and I mean, it's, if it's not even done well in any, no matter how you view this,
Starting point is 01:14:07 if it's not, if you're viewing it as drama, film noir, murder mystery, comedy, whatever, it's not done well because it's not done believably and it's not done, it's not acted professionally and it's not goddamn written
Starting point is 01:14:24 professionally and it's not shot professionally. So regardless of whether you're just being mad because it's bad wrestling, what is it supposed to be good of? What, we'll talk about it? They were in Glasgow. They actually had two people that were over like God on this program
Starting point is 01:14:47 and neither one of them could wrestle or one of them has one more match for he can't wrestle. At the top of the program, Brian Danielson comes out and makes an entrance and the whole crowd yeses and he's going to do color commentary because he's had to obviously retire. And then here comes Will Osprey. And he's his home turf, his home United Kings,
Starting point is 01:15:17 kingdom, whatever. I know he's not particularly from Scotland, but he's over there with that crowd, and he gets in a ring and barely tells him that he ain't going to be able to wrestle past Sunday either. So he didn't really tell him that. Between the echo of the PA mic and his accent and the voice and the fact that he was talking quickly, yes, I know all those. folks over there understood him. I got about 50% of it, but he told a story about his first trip to Scotland and ended it with something about sausage rolls
Starting point is 01:16:00 that got a big pop. Did you follow that trip with him as he told that long, rollicking story? Again, the PA, the audio was pretty bad here, but also he kept like alluding to, you expected him to say, I have to get neck surgery, I'm going to be gone for a while. And he kept alluding to it and almost getting there.
Starting point is 01:16:23 And then he would like take a step back and get a pop. Well, that's, no, he didn't even, you know, that's the thing. He alluded to everything. He said, this has been the worst week of my life. I got news last week. I'm scared. I'm terrified. I'm like, is he pregnant now?
Starting point is 01:16:46 And he said, no, here's. So here's the truth. I'm not cleared for forbidden door. But it's a lights out unsanction match. AEW is not responsible, so it's all on me. So I'm going to wrestle. And I'm aware of the risk. What risk?
Starting point is 01:17:06 He hasn't told us what the problem is. If there's a chance that I can't be Will Osprey after Sunday, I'm going to leave it all in the ring. And me and the other four clowns, whoever the fuck is in this 10-man cage match are going to beat the death riders before they take a scalpel to me. For what?
Starting point is 01:17:32 That's when Moxley's music starts and he's got to come in all the way from the parking lot, so they're going to waste all kinds of time. That's when the sock face, and the announcers kind of jumped in to explain that he was getting neck surgery, but not even really explaining
Starting point is 01:17:53 that. So before we go to the rest of the promo, my question is, did he just assume that everybody knew, or he just fumbled telling everybody? Which one do you suppose? I'm not sure, because he kind of alluded to things in the last promo we saw with him, and then he never said anything there either. I don't know if it's supposed to be just fans who understand online buzz that he is a bad neck. If he has a bad neck, why would it be like, okay, the doc says I could have one more crazy cage match before surgery? Well, no, that's the thing. He really does have a bad neck and he's really going to get surgery, but he's really also going to have this fucking goofy 10-man cage match.
Starting point is 01:18:39 And by the way, here are the teams. Let's see how many of these people are full-time AEW wrestlers. The Golden Lovers of Kenny Omega and Koda Abushi, teaming with Will Osprey, Darby Allen and Hiroshi Tanahashi. versus the death riders of Claudio and Moxley, the young bucks, a frickin' frack, and Gabe Kidd.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Well, we're going to get to Tana Hashi in a second because my God, good Lord. Wild Bull Curry at 80. Look like fucking tiger mask next to this fucking guy. But Moxley gets in the ring
Starting point is 01:19:24 and they go face to face and nothing happens. And there's Claudio and there's old Wheeler and they get up on the apron. And he's a, well, you do mostly do it yourself. And then suddenly, here comes Kevin Knight and a Hong Kong fooie and they slide in the ring to no reaction whatsoever. And they start having a sloppy fake fight.
Starting point is 01:19:54 It looks embarrassing. And then they play music, and here comes Tanahashi. And now the people pop. And the heels just stand there, and Tanahashi, he comes down the ramp with his gut bouncing and limp to the ring like he was crippled. And the heels had to run into him and bounce off of him. And then they rang the bell to start a six-man tag match.
Starting point is 01:20:24 So this Tanahashi is one of the people in the 10-man cage Zabada is what you're saying. Yes, representing New Japan. Not very well, apparently. I started, it was Dick the Boozer, Claudio, and useless against Spitball and Kevin Knight and his Tanahashi. And they rang the bell. We're already 15 minutes in the program with all this other. foolishness, and Tanaashi started out moving like he was in a body cast. And you're never going to believe this, Brian.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Well, I know you saw it. You probably still couldn't believe it. He and Moxley got in the middle and they started trading the lightest, fakedest forearms ever. Even Claudio was barely touching him. They were treating him like he was a Faberger egg. will his body parts fall apart if somebody was to body slam him? So after Tanahashi got out of the ring,
Starting point is 01:21:35 I skipped to the finish because Jesus Christ, apparently Gabe Kidd and a bunch of guys that I've never heard of. I've never even heard them say these names on his television show. they came out and interfered by stopping Tanahashi from if he was going to do it like he did it later from falling off the top rope and the fans didn't care and then nothing happened they all just stood on the floor while the match went on but then Osprey who had kidnapped Marina Schaefer away from Ringside earlier in the match brings out a body bag with somebody in it and all the kids did some dives
Starting point is 01:22:24 and Grandpa Tanahashi fell off the top rope on Wheeler 1, 2, 3 but then all eight of the heels, the people in the match and the fucking unknown people on the floor jumped in and started kicking a shit out of the
Starting point is 01:22:40 three baby faces in the ring but Osprey didn't go to help them because he was standing there holding the fucking bag with the body in it. So then the Buccarus came out
Starting point is 01:22:53 from behind Osprey and double super kicked him. And he goes down with the bag. But then Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly attacked the buckaroos and they fought off. And we didn't see them again.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Because now Moxley and Claudio and useless got the bag to get Marina out of the bag and when they opened it up, it was Darby. And Osprey and Darby start fighting the heels
Starting point is 01:23:27 with Samoa Joe and Hobbs and Shippoopee out to help them and everybody had a fake fight through the crowd, through the arena, into the back that wouldn't stop
Starting point is 01:23:43 and kept going with most of the people in the street clothes so you couldn't tell who anybody he was back there anyway and it was dark. But they had to kill time so that Darby could get to the top
Starting point is 01:23:55 of the balcony area and coffin drop everybody in this 14 or 15 man pack. But he did it in the dark with no lights so you could barely see it. And then everybody left. What the fuck? Was this the biggest mess
Starting point is 01:24:16 in the history of television? This looked like some Russo shit in T&A. Who even started this fucking thing? The Osprey, I'm going to have to leave for a while, promo is what started it. And then it's amazing when you have a segment with the worst batch of baby faces ever. And then you realize it's the worst batch of heels ever. Like it's just, there's no star power. It's not very good.
Starting point is 01:24:45 And, you know, Tanahashi or Takahashi or, you know, anyone who appeals on this show, no, I'm saying anyone who appears. No, I'm saying anyone who appears. No, it's Tanahashi. but there also is a takahash. Yeah, anyone who appears on this show, it's like they've been doing Forbidden Door for a while. They keep getting the older guys who are broken down.
Starting point is 01:25:04 If you notice, there's no young talent coming out of New Japan that anyone wants to see. They just had Takesha go over there. We're taking a shit, go. He just went over there. He won their G1. Why have we been seeing him if these... Ishi.
Starting point is 01:25:20 A potato with arms and legs. Just an immobile. funny looking fuck or Suzuki or this Tanahashi or the other Takahashi or all these people that look like they can't fucking breathe much less wrestle
Starting point is 01:25:35 but they've got our boy take and they send him to Japan keep these motherfuckers and bring him back and Okada they could make him the captain of the steamship to ship
Starting point is 01:25:51 all these son of a bitches back home boring overpaid fucking lackadaisical blasé son of a bitch we'll see what happens that was the first of the it's now an AEW thing the rolling segment one thing rolls right into the next
Starting point is 01:26:11 rolls right into the next commercial break well when they came back from the commercial break by Cracky it was time for Tony Chivani to bring out Edge in Christian Cage and he brought out Edge and the fans love to sing over there.
Starting point is 01:26:29 They sang his song even when they cut his song and they were still singing. And then Christian Cage comes out and he starts to heal the crowd and Edge shuts him up and these people love us. But you are, what you are, you're an asshole. So now the story is that
Starting point is 01:26:49 Edge knows Christian is an asshole, but sometimes you need an asshole and at least he's my asshole. And when Christian went to find himself, he found out that he was perfect and he doesn't need to change anything. At least it's different, Brian. You can't say this one's been done before. Any of this turn or the angles for the turn or the participants of the turn. So Edge and Christian aren't on the same page, but they are writing in the same book.
Starting point is 01:27:27 And Edge promised him, and so he promises Edge, that Edge is going to help him with Nick and Pip, and then he's going to help Edge with FTR. And he gives Edge his word and shakes his hand. He's going to be the best partner that Edge ever had. And the crowd pops when they shake hands, because they want to see them back together. And then here comes, and now this whole guy,
Starting point is 01:27:57 damn convoluted deal that again, you could buy and we said we wouldn't mind seeing at one point a reunion of Edge and Christian against FTR. You're thinking on this program and with
Starting point is 01:28:15 this roster, that'd probably be one of the more attractive things you could see. And that's what they wanted too. That's what FTR and cope have really wanted. But then you throw Nick Plain and the mother and Pip and all this other parsley, into the thing, and now it's confusing.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Well, now that they've done all that, when Pip and Mama Wayne come out, they're letting her speak now, good Lord. She introduced a video on the screen of Nick on crutches, reciting a memorized statement in a very menacing and threatening fashion. and basically he broke his fucking foot. And they wouldn't be doing this if he really didn't have a broken foot.
Starting point is 01:29:05 No, I'm out of forbidden door. I'm out of this angle. Another one of these fucking guys does something and fucking breaks something in the middle of the goddamn deal. And now he's out of the pay-per-view. But he said, if I would have been able to show up this weekend, I would have finished you off. And then he says, I'm always one step ahead.
Starting point is 01:29:31 And he delivers it like this fucking juvenile delinquent is Lex goddamn Luther, right? But then they play music. And now you have a video of a mad scientist laboratory, a mad doctor with a goddamn medieval-looking hypodermic needle, and he shoots something and blah, blah, blah. and on a table that pops up and does an Undertaker sit up is Dino Dush
Starting point is 01:30:00 our old friend Dino Dush a.k.a. Luchosaurus, I believe it was his Christian name. Well, no, because it's Killswitcherisoris, but they were chanting a luchasaurus because the fans here forgot that they changed his name. So this goddamn egghead is back.
Starting point is 01:30:22 and what again he looks like a million dollars that he in the early days was responsible for many of the rottener matches because he don't know what the fuck he's doing apparently he never figured it out but he's back and he comes out and chokeslam's edge and stares at christian because they used to be aligned and then they had the breakup and that's where the fans chanted luchessaurus Did they have a breakup? Or did he just get hurt? He never came back. They had the goddamn, the awkward relationship
Starting point is 01:30:59 where he was bullying Dino or whatever the fuck they did. But when you think about this, here comes the guy, he hits the ring, he chokeslams the only legitimate baby face involved in this whole deal, and the people are chanting his name.
Starting point is 01:31:20 But then he turns around and he chokeslams Christian Cage right on his fucking shoulder. What the this fucking guy is rotten. His timing, his psychology, his execution,
Starting point is 01:31:37 and he thinks he's a goddamn horror movie star. I bet his time off has done nothing for the smoothness of his performance. There are fans who think that it was Jack Perry's arm in the video preparing the hypodermic needle to bring Luchosaurus back to life.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Hey, I'm not saying that there might not be a possibility that you could get some video of Jack Perry preparing a hypodermic needle but I don't think he'd be shoving it in somebody else's arm. Well, again, we're not going to make any presumptions or I don't know what you're alluding to there.
Starting point is 01:32:13 We have not heard anything about that. Well, he's the guy that came out and set a motherfucker on fire, wouldn't he? Or was he the guy that got set on fire? fire. Didn't he set somebody on fire too? They're all on the marijuana pills, all these young, young people.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Well, wait a minute. Where was the fire? Was there a fire incident? Who did it? And who was the perpetrator? That's right. He got set on fire. By who? I can't remember. Somebody with a flame thrower. Was it Darby? It sounds like something he'd do. Oh, maybe. Maybe. Cody got lit on fire in the early days. Remember he had all that crap
Starting point is 01:32:46 on his back and could notice he like, hey, what's on Cody's back? Oh, it's in flames. Yeah. But no, this was with the Flamethrower, the way people are supposed to do it. And also here, that's something else. We actually make notes on this shit to go over this shit and we can't remember who
Starting point is 01:33:05 Flamethrower Jack Perry. So Nick Wayne's mom's going over to England and he stays home? Apparently, well, you know, mom's night out. You know, she got somebody to watch the kids. She can go out there. Oh, boy. Merry old England, you know how England swings like a pendulum do.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Well, I'm sure, Jim, after all that swinging, you may need a good night's rest. I swear to God, I was about to tell you how tired I was. I was about this time I was having a hard time keeping my eyes open, and I'll tell you what, it's times like that at the end of the day when you've had a long hard day and you've watched a lot of stupid people do shit and you just want to lay down somewhere comfortable and just forget about your troubles forget about your cares lay your worries on the old doorstep and just fucking just dive onto a helix mattress and that's and and and you can now they have mattresses from helix with diving boards if you want to get in your your your
Starting point is 01:34:22 exercise at the same time. They've got the eight foot and the 12 foot. You get up on that thing. They don't. And you just come right off of that diving board into the Helix mattress where it's like landing in a cloud. Again, it goes poof. It's a poofy, nice idea, but it is not a realistic idea. Certainly not sold by Helix, but what they do sell Jim are great mattresses.
Starting point is 01:34:45 We have them here at Last Manor. We are big fans of Helix. I know you have them over there. Yes. He looks sleep. I have them here often. They come over for dinner sometimes. Every once in a while,
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Starting point is 01:35:12 I don't have my glasses on. That's apnea. If you got sleep apnea, because most of the time, when people get gonorrhea, 80 or 90% of the time, they're awake. We're not talking gonorrhea.
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Starting point is 01:36:13 Well, that's right, because they had to give up the old 800 number, 1-800 lay me, but right now if you go to helixlecksleep.com Not their number, but yes, go there. Well, no, they gave it up. Yeah, they were getting a lot of sad business over there, though, but you can use your Apple Watch or your Ouija Ring or a ring or aura ring. If you got one of those things that tracks your sleeping,
Starting point is 01:36:41 you can use it and see the improvements. See? Again, let's focus on what we can. Definitely see and let alone feel. I tell you, I always had problems sleeping with my watch on because I toss and turn in the middle of night and every once while I'd slap myself right in the forehead with that big old watch, boom,
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Starting point is 01:38:47 Forbidden Door. That's the question you're going to ask me, wasn't it? Yeah, of course. I mean, that's a big match for the tag titles coming up. Another great big match for the Titans. Another great big match. Well, it came down to FTR against Bandito and Brody King to see who would face Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin, the Hurt Syndicate for the tag team title at
Starting point is 01:39:11 Forbidden Door. And again, why is the door so forbidden? Everybody's come through it. It's not like you've gone to the old Indian burial grounded. You've never returned. Everybody's come through that door, gone back, come back. It's like a revolving forbidden door. There's nobody else that's still forbidden that can come through it, is there?
Starting point is 01:39:32 For New Japan, it hasn't been good people go through that door. They never come back. Well, they never, they always come back on this show, the one that I'm watching. They're here all the fucking time. I don't care what they do over there. They could go about their business. So what this was was another match where bless them, bless them for their effort. But FTR want to have the greatest tag team match of all time, every time.
Starting point is 01:40:03 And they never give thought to the fact that their opponents can't pull it off and it gets too complicated and it gets sloppy or it gets lost or there are two steps behind. and they try to cooperate with all the stupid shit that their various opponents do, in this case, Bandito, with his, I don't know what the fuck the fucking deal is where he just rolls over people
Starting point is 01:40:30 and does handstands and back and whatever. But it was a 30-minute draw, not to spoil anything, 30-minute time limit draw. Brody King got color, he got juice, because that's the thing that he does best. And Bandito did a lot of screwy shit because that's what he does best.
Starting point is 01:40:51 And FTR can't set up a match to the level of their opponent and make them look good without trying to make them look so good that they end up making them look worse than they usually do. Does that make sense to you? It makes sense to me, but you're the biggest expert on tag team wrestling, I know. So when you say it, it really matters. Well, I mean, it's, it's, they,
Starting point is 01:41:14 They caught the lightning in the bottle with Jay White and Juice Robinson, and Bandito and Brody King, neither one is Jay White or Juice Robinson. And Jay and Juice were an experienced tag team from Japan or whatever. They knew enough of each other that, yes, they pulled it off. But here with everybody, it's just this, just excessive over and over and too complicated and too many swerves and false finishes and bells and whistles. And then they set up the 30-minute draw so that the very last move at the bell was cash diving through a fucking table on the floor.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Crash, ding, ding, ding! What the fuck? It used to be, oh, my God, the team that we wanted to win almost won in the small package, but he just, the bell rain. Now it's just, oh, we got one more piece of furniture in. before we had to quit. And then within 30 seconds, Tony Kahn had sent word
Starting point is 01:42:21 to the girl ring announcer, Lois Lane, whatever her name is, that now both teams will face the Hurt syndicate in a three-way at the pay-per-view. Well, at least they came up with a novel way to settle this. And they sent Bobby Lashley and Sheldon Benjamin out with music to stare at these people. So now we got three-way.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Last month, the tag title match was a three-way. Why don't they just book a handicap match with four of their regular guys against Lashley and Benjamin, then it would be even and it still be a regular match? They just want to get the belts off Lashley and Benjamin, and Lashley and Benjamin are probably saying, how are we going to do that? And their best way is, how about we pin someone else? These guys come in, they get over, they get the fans interested, they have professional matches for once on this program,
Starting point is 01:43:26 and Tony was completely unable to get any tag team over to face them for the belts that anybody thought could legitimately give them an issue and was expected him to work with these fucking underneath children that they obviously was like, what the fuck? We got over, we did our job. Why do you want us to try to get these fucking clowns over that are ready for this shit? He thought it was a good idea Tony did to put them against night and spitball?
Starting point is 01:44:03 The fuck it just accentuated how weak night and spitball were. it is i'm still i'm gobsmacked they dropped the ball on them the hurt syndicate i'm gobsmacked they cut the deal off with mjf and dropped that whole thing because they obviously didn't know where the fuck it was going so anyway that was what happened there with with those people what were we talking about the tag title match come oh yes going to be a three way and then they bring Adam Page to the ring and I wrote Jesus, now this douchebag is going to talk.
Starting point is 01:44:51 And he's mad that MJF jumped him into parking lot last week. It could have been worse, he could have burned your house down. And then he called MJF out, but he knew that he wouldn't come out because he's a coward. And then he did another one of his fake tough guy promos. and when he was done, they played MJF's music and MJF didn't come out.
Starting point is 01:45:17 And then the music stopped. But then Tony Chavani at ringside, he's listening to his headset. There's a message, MJF has got a cameraman in the back and he's got a message for you. And if you leave the ring before he finishes his message,
Starting point is 01:45:39 something bad will happen. Yeah, we'll have to watch the rest of this segment. You know the best thing about this segment, Brian? Did you notice the best thing about the segment? No. Was the fine Cordets Collectibles customer that was standing behind Tony Chivani with the I'm a Jim Cornett guy T-shirt on?
Starting point is 01:46:03 And he didn't move. He didn't move a muscle and they couldn't apparently figure out a way to shoot Tony any other way. but then MJF comes up on the screen and remember I've said it before you can never seem like you can never praise anybody Brian or recognize anybody's talent or say that they might have something special that they don't eventually do something to disappoint you and just fucking just make you think why the fuck did I ever goddamn say anything good about if he was forced to do this I apologize if he did it on purpose he's
Starting point is 01:46:41 not as smart as I thought he was. But MJF is there with ricochet and two job guys, whatever the fucking names are, and they had kidnapped Mark Briscoe and tied him to a chair and gagged him. Now, this is about the third or fourth person in the course of the run of this program that has been kidnapped and tied up,
Starting point is 01:47:06 taken away, and held for ransom, tied to a chair and gagged, right? So it's not even groundbreaking there. But now MJF cuts the promo and says, well, you got to stand there and listen to me. And if you don't do the three things I want you to do, then he takes a gas can and pours gasoline over the top of Mark Briscoe, who apparently has been put in a medically induced coma
Starting point is 01:47:36 because he's not even selling. He's unconscious. he was unconscious that long, chances are he would have fucking flatline without some goddamn defibrillator. He pours gas over Mark Briscoe's head and says, I'm going to set him on fire and he's got the lighter. I'm going to set him on fire. Unless you agree that our match on Sunday, the title can change hands on disqualification
Starting point is 01:48:07 or count out. and I don't have to use my contract to get the title match. Now you're just giving it to him anyway. Or I'm going to set this guy on fire. In this fake skit with this fake gasoline, this fake bullshit that I'm saying about this fake match we're going to have. In a fit of four, he's going to, yes, an American citizen is going to emulate another American citizen
Starting point is 01:48:36 in a foreign country. Can you imagine the paperwork alone? Nobody'd be able to figure out how to fill out those forms. What the fuck? The carnage over at Carnaby Street. I don't know what these people are making me do. There's a killer on the King's Road. There's a killer on the road.
Starting point is 01:49:02 His body's frying like a toad, because we set him on fire, because the situation's dire. My pay-per-view is sagging, and I'm really lagging. My business is dead. So anyway, he gave Page the count of five to agree to these things. Page said okay and four, so apparently he had to think a minute about how enamored he was
Starting point is 01:49:32 of Mark Briscoe. And so, okay, so now they took back, he didn't need to go the devil. The devil didn't need to goddamn flip out and get mad and say, oh, Cal, execute the contract because now they take it back to the next week. And the title can change by disqualification or count out. They probably ain't going to change the belt anyway. They're just trying to make people think Pages in jeopardy.
Starting point is 01:49:56 To be honest, if they did a real good job of convincing people that somebody would beat Page, they probably get a good buy rate. but are they all on that cratum that we've been hearing about that they think this is good television who is this for like i said it wasn't scary if you were going for a cool violent reservoir dogs vibe like they could have cut his ear off but it's not funny nor is it scary nor is it cool because it's also obviously silly and fake. So what, and why would MJF, who has proven himself to be a student of the business and kind of understands what guys have done in the past to get over,
Starting point is 01:50:52 what works and what doesn't or what's stupid? He just, I mean, he's one of the few people they have left that anybody gives a shit about and they've wiped their feet on that to the point where it, it's, it's, it's, it's, not the same as it used to be with him. And there's no, there's no direction to this. And now direction, home! With these complete unknowns! Like a big old fat bone!
Starting point is 01:51:25 So, yeah. There's not a single fan who saw this who thought that MJF was going to light him on fire. Oh, you know what, God damn. Maybe he should have done it. Maybe he should have just, let Mark Briscoe on fire to prove him wrong. Well, he didn't. I guess that's the point.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Yeah. Well. I've not been crazy about the MJF Adam Page build. Adam Page suckered MJF in the making bad decisions by attacking his feelings. And then MJF threatened to burn someone, seemingly to death, I would assume. I don't know what you hope for when you light someone. I said, well, yeah, no, if you'd only wanted to hurt him, you would, like, Portaulogast his lap or on his feet or something.
Starting point is 01:52:15 But no, he went over the head straight down. Is this a problem going forward where because he blitz-swerves childhood, a house on fire? Now, like, whenever you want to do something with him, it has to involve fire. Well, at least they're telling long-term storytelling here. See, is always connected. But it's just, again, this is the W. doesn't need to fuck with them.
Starting point is 01:52:40 They're doing a good enough job on their own. Why would you, again, I ask what audience is this silly, stupid, fake shit for just to laugh at them? People got enough problems. They don't need to tune in a television program just to laugh at how amateurish and bad it is. I assume they could find some comedies that would make them
Starting point is 01:53:06 laugh in a more productive fashion. Who is this supposed to get excited. How exciting was this when you're laughing like, look at these dumb fucks with their fake fucking gasoline. And they're in a war. They're hopeless. It's hopeless. They can't possibly win it, but they refuse to even put up a good fight and just be serious. It's just we're going to take this fucking guy for his money and just do the shit that we like to do that's fun. And look it is. How about we said him? on fire, act like we're going to.
Starting point is 01:53:44 What about a baseball bat with spikes in it? That'd be fucking hilarious. And they just get away with it. And it doesn't change their business for positive or negative because there is that core group that wants to, for whatever reason, watch broken down Japanese people and silly, frail, pale-looking Americans, fake fight. There you have it. By the way, there's about another half an hour.
Starting point is 01:54:13 hour left in the show, but I I really don't know what they might have done that would top threatening to fucking septa guy on fire, so I bowed out at this point. I'd about had enough. I figured I got the flavor of the thing.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Now, miss anything? Well, we'll discuss that, I guess, with the ratings momentarily, but they had a big women's match. So I didn't miss anything. Which more than likely you weren't going to watch or evaluate, so I don't know if you missed much, but that was AEW Dynamite
Starting point is 01:54:45 Jim let's get to the ratings well hold on here a second but now we've told people what there's no use in watching or paying attention to because it's all silly and fake and stupid what can they do with their extra time this week might they even be able to to listen to a program on the Arcadian Vanguard network well thank you very much that's the most professional setup for a plug
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Starting point is 01:56:45 The Mothership. How come this fancy Dan sound filter we got won't filter out that bellowing of yours? You bellicose bumpkin? Oh, Dr. Smith, I see that. You've arrived late into the show. All right, well, what kind of a pain in my back was these ratings this week?
Starting point is 01:57:02 This past week, A.E.W. Dynamite on TBS, August 20th, 2025, 8 to 10.06 p.m. On average, watched by 565,000 viewers. Oh, good God.
Starting point is 01:57:20 The lowest total viewership for Dynamite since April 23rd. Of course, there was big competition. There was? Well, I saw Dave Meltzer quoted The Little League World Series was on. Oh, come on. What?
Starting point is 01:57:36 The Little League World Series were the top children baseball player well actually best team not the players but it's the world series of the best little league players but wait a minute i could i can understand the little league world series possibly being competition as far as pulling people off the AEW roster but i can't believe that it would be competition as far as taking viewers away the little leaguers dynamite was number seven for cable on the night in the key demo uh number one was south park well that's no surprise either and it was brilliant but do you think who when's that that's 10 o'clock right but that's 10 o'clock so that
Starting point is 01:58:18 would have affected the last six minutes but do you think that for once they could have realized my god this is a horrible television wrestling program and just not watched it well let's see what the quarter numbers tell us or the quarterly numbers is quarters filled with numbers these were compiled by wrestlenomics, A.W. Dynamite August 20th, 2025 on TBS. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m., the Will Osprey, Death Riders, JetSpeed, Hiroshi Tanahashi Live Anger, 645,000 viewers. Okay, so they started way down from where they normally start to begin with, and last, last week when they got the big pop over 700,
Starting point is 01:59:07 didn't they start with 8? 800 and something? So this time people just said, well, hell. Well, hell continues into quarter two. 815, 8.30 p.m. Tanahashi and Jet Speed versus the death riders with picture and picture.
Starting point is 01:59:26 The postmatch with Bullet Club war dogs. Oh, that's who those guys are. Who is that? Who are these people? What are there even? individual names. I didn't recognize a goddamn one. Well, the Bullet Club war dogs,
Starting point is 01:59:41 Will Osprey, Darby Allen, the Young Bucks, and the ops. 573,000 viewers. Wow. So that was slim pickings to begin with, and then they lost another 65, 72,000 people.
Starting point is 01:59:59 They have to stay fairly consistent from this point to even make their average. Well, we go to quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m. At ad break, the Adam Copeland Christian Cage matriarchy live angle. 566,000 viewers. Oh, good. Edge and Christian reunite as a tag team and lose 7,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:00:29 You can have the greatest talent in the world, and if they go out and they're in the middle, of a shit show, you can't overcome that. Well, we got a quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. Mark Briscoe's backstage promo, an ad break, ricochet the Gates of Agony and MJF's backstage angle, and the start of FTR versus Brodito, 547,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:01:04 And there goes another 19,000. And again, they got to get some back to make their average almost, don't they? Well, let's see what happens here. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. 20-something more minutes of tag team Tom Foolery. The continuation of FTR versus Brodito with two rounds of picture and picture. 543,000 viewers. Okay, and at least they're holding them. Well, the hold continues into quarter six.
Starting point is 02:01:39 They're holding the lowest number of the show so far. It may be a stranglehold. They stopped the bleeding. 915 and 9.30 p.m. Continuation of FTR versus Brodito. The post match with the Hertz Syndicate. The Okada Swarved Strickland Video. I missed that, thankfully.
Starting point is 02:02:00 And an ad break. 559,000 viewers. So they got another 16,000. We'll bless their little peep-picking hearts. We go to quarter 7, 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. The Adam Page, MJF, Ricochet Gates of Agony Live Angle, aka the attempted murder of Mark Briscoe, an ad break. And then the Page Rickashay Gates of Agony backstage angle,
Starting point is 02:02:34 529,000 viewers. Ooh, and that's where they said, all right, this is ridiculous. And we lost 30,000 and we're down, rolling down 100 and 16,000 from the start because they started
Starting point is 02:02:50 in the toilet already. And we'll talk about the key demo number in a moment, but here is quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. A reminder, six-minute overrun. Athena and Mercedes-Money versus Alex
Starting point is 02:03:06 Windsor and Tony Storm with picture and picture. 556,000 viewers. They got some back. Six-minute overrun, continuation of that match, and the post-match with Persephone, who we previously pronounced as Persephone, and everyone got mad.
Starting point is 02:03:26 560,000 viewers. The key demo number, quarter one was 229, and then it was 204, 218, 214, 202, 200. 203, 211,
Starting point is 02:03:40 205. So that is, you'd almost think that's their base cable audience because that's about as low as a, that's steady across the board and low. Well,
Starting point is 02:03:50 taken away the first quarter again, because that's never indicative of what the program's going to do. Every quarter from there on out was between 573 and 529. So that's a 44,000 person, very at 573. 566, 547, 543, 559, 529, 529, 556, and 560.
Starting point is 02:04:15 So we said they're down to around about 600,000 people, give or take on the week that will suffer through this. And that number is, every year, they lop off about another 100,000. Because when they started, it was 900, 800, and 700, and 600, and 600, Now they're into fives. We'll see. They've got no more stars. They got nobody they can bring in.
Starting point is 02:04:46 They, nothing is, there are no dream matches. There's nothing interesting where you, I'd really like to see the big show with this guy versus this guy. Every six months, they wheel Kenny Omega out. That's a big moment still and then he disappears again off TV. It's, and now Osprey again we have to because we we did so much talking real quick as we close up here we did so much talking
Starting point is 02:05:14 about how he bumbled not really telling anybody what's the matter with him thankfully they're not going to put the fucking belt on him at forbidden door or that they didn't before now because now he'll be out for who knows how long with neck surgery from doing a lot of shit that was frankly unnecessary and probably fallen through a lot of furniture. So when they get a star or they get a guy that can be one of their top guys or their
Starting point is 02:05:46 top guy, either they run him off, he doesn't get along with the other people, or he hurts himself and he runs his own self off, or they book him into goddamn oblivion. And I don't see who's on the horizon that's going to change that. So the WWE, that's why I feel like they've picked now to go here. We can pretty much powderize these some bitches right now and be on our way and own everything. What are they going to do about it? They've run out of access to stars and the stars they have keep going down. Well, that was AEW Dynamite.
Starting point is 02:06:30 It certainly was. Is this the end of the program? This is your show. That's your decision. Well, in that case, I'm going to make it. executive decision. Folks, we're coming back in a few days
Starting point is 02:06:40 with the drive-thru with some classic wrestling talk and we'll be back here next week on the experience which will be longer if anything actually happens. But until then, and in between times
Starting point is 02:06:53 and in the meantime, thank you, fuck you, and bye-bye, everybody.

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