Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 607: Main Event Roster Review

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews the main event wrestlers on the WWE & AEW rosters! Plus Jim talks about the Louisville plane crash, Ridge Holland, Jerry Lee Lewis, AEW & NWA's Nationa...l Title issues, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, and much more! Also, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite! Thanks to our episode sponsors: SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/jce. CORNBREAD HEMP:  Save 30% on your first order and free shipping on orders over $75! Go to cornbreadhemp.com/jce and use code JCE at checkout. PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/JCE and use code JCE to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! FACTOR:  Eat smart at FactorMeals.com/jce50off and use code JCE50off to get 50% off your first box, plus Free Breakfast for 1 Year. @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornett. The keys to the future. Hell by Annette. The next episode of the Jim Coronet experience today, Louisville makes the national news for the wrong reasons. Tony Kahn does a TV show the wrong way. And we'll see whether it's AEW or the WWE that are using the wrong people.
Starting point is 00:01:16 and joining me for all this and more Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line the King of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network Mr. Co-host to you if talking to him is wrong I don't want to be right be great Brian last everybody Aloha Jim a pleasure to be here once again that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me
Starting point is 00:01:36 or I guess said about me to other people while I waited to come in we have an action pack show what the hell are you saying now maybe I don't want to talk to you I shot out of a cannon. I can't wait to talk about this great episode of dynamite, one of the great episodes of all time.
Starting point is 00:01:55 When I hit the wrong button there a moment ago, folks. I was, I came back. I hit the wrong button. I leaned on the mouse when I was trying to sit up and get my teeth lined up in the right place where I can, you know, the other day I had a problem. My tongue lulled over my eye teeth and I couldn't see what I was saying. Mama Cornette used to say that all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:17 anyhow, you know, something that I had underestimated, or that's the wrong word, I was just astonished that the grasp of the geography of metropolitan Louisville, Kentucky was lacking on a part of people all around the country and the world, that I appreciate that everybody was worried about me, and we're going to talk about what happened here, and it's not a comedy bit, because they're still, looking for people, by the way. But I appreciate that a bunch of people were worried about me and Stacey after last
Starting point is 00:02:58 Tuesday when the UPS plane, it didn't technically crash because it never really hardly got 400 feet off the ground. It exploded is what it did. Out here at the Louisville airport, and a lot of people were worried about us, and she tweeted out a thing. and you put out a thing on Facebook because people were asking, but I think we are actually in our area, one of the small slivers of the entire county
Starting point is 00:03:28 that was not under a shelter and place order. But I was thinking, well, why are they asking about us? And then I realized that everybody around the world doesn't know the geography of Louisville, but it was brought home to me when you told me on the phone, I'm going to expose this, Brian. you said, I didn't know Louisville had an airport. A small little rinky dink town.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I figured you guys went to Cincinnati. Well, because you've flown through. Cincinnati. The Cincinnati Airport, but the Cincinnati, Ohio airport is technically, they call it the greater Cincinnati airport, because it's across the river in northern Kentucky. But that's 90 miles away from here. as far as a major market airport in the state of Kentucky, Louisville said,
Starting point is 00:04:23 we're international now. It used to be just poor old Standerford Field. Now it's the Muhammad Ali International Airport. You can fly to London. Can't fly to Kansas City nonstop without going to Atlanta, but you can fly to London. The point is this happened this past Tuesday. in the Louisville Airport where we are not a busy, you know, hub for any of the airlines necessarily, but this is the hub, the world port for UPS United Parcel Service.
Starting point is 00:05:03 There are 300 UPS flights coming in and out of the Louisville Airport every day in addition to the commercial traffic that they have, right? but UPS and their assorting facility and this plane was headed to Honolulu. They go out everywhere from, and 24 hours a day, they don't stop. So we're sitting here in a house and Stace accidentally had a,
Starting point is 00:05:32 I was watching me TV, but Stace had the news on and she came in and she said, there's a plane crashed. And it had happened at like 515 or so, on weekday afternoon at rush hour, which I know people are going to say, well, it's not airport rush hour.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It's rush hour because I'm going to tell you where the highways are. And I looked, and by that time, they had video on screen of a cloud of smoke, black smoke, that was rising up from that area, because, I mean, the TV stations were scrambling, as this was happening during their newscast to get people and cameras and shit,
Starting point is 00:06:19 there was more smoke than there was sky already. It looked like the spaceship in Independence Day. And then you see flames, not hundreds of feet, but thousands of feet flying up in the fucking air, and it was, what the fuck? So apparently what happened was that this flight to Honolulu UPS plane, three crew members, was taking off and never really, as it got like a couple hundred feet in the air, either the engine blew up and fell off or fell off and blew up.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I'm not sure of the chain of events, but one of the engines, boom, and then it just starts going back down. and by that point was going 200 miles an hour and shot past the airport and into a thankfully mostly industrial park type of area where there weren't like heavily concentrations of people. There was a junkyard like a pick your own auto part place there that took up a lot of the room,
Starting point is 00:07:35 but there were it landed. or not landed but came to either blasted on the way through or came to rest on top of a petroleum recycling plant. So you had a MD-11 jumbo jet going 200 miles an hour, already on fire, slamming into a goddamn oil recycling place. And you can see now, because of it, I mean, it looked like the video of in Vietnam when they would carpet bomb places, imagine about a half mile or more of that in the middle of a goddamn airport area.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And it landed on top of an auto parts place and they lost two employees and the people that they are still looking for, apparently, whatever customers were in this place. and then they came up, they got dash cam footage from somebody going down, I think it's a grade lane, which goes from like the airport side of the airport down over to the fairgrounds. And it looks computer generated. Imagine if you're driving down a four-lane kind of side street and an industrial park and a jumbo jet goes 100 feet above you across the road and
Starting point is 00:09:10 crashes into a fireball in a building behind you to the right. What the fuck? So, anyway, this is what happened. Automatically, the phone started ringing everywhere, and the alerts were going off. It was a shelter in place. They extended a shelter in place area around the airport where stay in your homes because it's raining oil. It was raining fucking oil.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Is it everybody stay in your homes, 10 miles on either side of the airport, which went all the way into downtown and to the Ohio River to the north, to the county line on the south, and within five miles from us on the east and pretty much to the river on the west. So just to hold down, it was like,
Starting point is 00:10:07 don't go outside. and the smoke went all the way to the river. It's like a 10-mile giant cloud of smoke that was getting bigger and going with the wind. The flames, they shut the, obviously, the whole airport down, all the airspace. Every goddamn fire department, police department, emergency response team in the county
Starting point is 00:10:37 and surrounding counties was mobilized. And here's the, I talked about the logistics. Brian, but we've always talked about the big arena Freedom Hall here at the Fairgrounds in Louisville, right until the Yom Center, that was where all the big WWE events were held, right? Yeah. If this plane had just been going the other way,
Starting point is 00:11:03 distance-wise and logistically, it would have just landed on top of Freedom Hall because that's the north side of the airport. The busiest interstate, north to south in a state, Interstate 65 from Nashville through downtown Louisville onto Indianapolis, goes directly east of the airport. And the busiest, the Waterson Expressway at 5 o'clock on a weekday, it can be a,
Starting point is 00:11:36 parking lot. It goes directly north of the airport to where when you get off the exit from the waterson to get to the airport, you're going across 65. They all join there on the north side. There is Kentucky Kingdom where OVW used to have its events, the amusement park, next to a water park, next to the fair and expo center, the state fairgrounds, with Freedom Hall and a stadium. and then on the east side, about the same distance away from the airport, is the fucking Ford plant. The biggest, one of the biggest employers,
Starting point is 00:12:18 besides UPS, in the city, and they run 24 hours, there's a shift there all the time. I don't know how, I'm not an expert in how the runways are laid out at the airport, but the only way this plane could have gone, practically and not landed on one of the things I just talked about was the way it did
Starting point is 00:12:43 and so it could have been on the interstate but also it and Churchill Downs Churchill Downs is a couple miles other direction and depending on instead of rush out if it had been Derby Day or the NCAA tournament or whatever who knows what the fuck could have occurred so as as this is
Starting point is 00:13:10 now there's I think the latest word is 12 people were dead but like 14 or 15 are still they're trying to find let's put it that way so from what the fuck and 300 of these things
Starting point is 00:13:31 are going in and out of here every day can you now tell me Brian last that you are are not starting to see my point of view when it comes to air travel. No, I used to think you were a bit hysterical about it. And now I realize I completely agree. I don't want to fly anywhere ever for any reason, whether the plane is big or small. If it doesn't run out of fuel, it'll hit another plane, it'll just come down.
Starting point is 00:14:01 The air traffic, the whole men are all gone. Just, it's not worth it. Go for a walk. Get on the phone. I swear to God, you remind me of the moyle in the Seinfeld episode. But nevertheless, no, but... Not worth it. But here's the thing is that, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:24 anything I can blame on the current administration, but this had nothing to do with the air traffic controller situation, which also now they've reduced the flights in and out of here 10%, but it had nothing to do with that because this was complete, plane malfunction as carlin would say broken plane and they now have announced that the this plane was in for major service and a major something was done back in September and it was returned to the fleet a few weeks ago and it had major shit done to it and we haven't had any problems since in for the past three weeks So I think they ought to be keeping an eye on that, but I'll tell you, Governor Andy, Governor Andy Bashir, baby, remember the name Andy Bashir in hopefully 10 or 12 years when sanity returns and they're looking for a nice, just level-headed human being.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Do you have time limits for your governor? I don't think he can, he can't run again. Hopefully he'll then be a senator or whatever, because he's only. 40 something. But two-term Democratic governor in Kentucky that went for Schittler by 70% or whatever because yes, Louisville and Lexington are outnumbered
Starting point is 00:15:53 by the rest of the state. But whether it's the floods, whether it's the tornadoes, he was here in Louisville two hours after the crash on local television telling people, all of the, he declared state of emergency, telling people all of the agencies that were responding, telling people to stay in their homes away from the raining oil business, and on fucking
Starting point is 00:16:22 sight in two hours. And when he, and people listen to him because he, he makes sense. And he's legitimately worried about things and doing something about it. But he was, boom, was right there. And like you said, we heard from a lot of people not knowing anything other than Jim Cornett lives in Louisville that heard Louisville plane crash. Jim must be near the site. We hope him and Stacey
Starting point is 00:16:50 are okay. I mean, there were people in this the area that was affected. Like I said, it's like of half a mile or more of just scorched earth and I don't know how wide. but it was no and neighborhoods are around if it'd gone any further another 500 yards boom it's in the subdivision but uh it was an industrial area where Darby allen may have been living in the backseat of a car
Starting point is 00:17:25 or something but people didn't actually live in this area so that and which is again was amazing because it's it's probably the only place it could have gone where it wasn't in a neighborhood or in a place that could have at like a sports stadium held thousands and thousands of people for some event if it had been a different time. They just had 200,000 people at the fairgrounds for that music festival in September. And, you know, you never know. Yeah, that was about as much jet fuel as you could have. well landing on the oil recycling plant
Starting point is 00:18:09 geez so and there was still they they lowered the distance of the shelter in place over the next day or two there are still people couldn't don't drink the water because some of the fuel had run off into some type of water thing I'm not an expert again on the metropolitan sewer district they you know but there there's still they did an environmental test on everything and cleared the air, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:18:42 But yeah, there's multiple, they're telling people if you find a piece of the plane in your yard or wherever you find it, don't touch it, call the professionals because they're going to find all the pieces what are left after this incredible blaze, incendiary fucking blast furnace and they're going to put it all back together. They've already found the black box which is why they know how fast it was going and how high it got the whole thing
Starting point is 00:19:13 which brings the question why don't they make the whole plane out of what they make the black box out of? And I guess to the few people that did ask this has no effect on the shipments of heroes and friends. No, I swear to God, there were comments on Twitter or the books on the plane no we use the United States Postal Service while they're still in business
Starting point is 00:19:40 I have nothing against the people at UPS but that's just what Hotschkis is doing so Jim Cornett book explosion I mean can you imagine no you know what was on the power town figures god damn it they were we were sending them over to Honolulu to be cleaned and then we were going to bring them back here. We are some bad news, guys. We told you we were going to send the figures via airmail, but there was an accident. We lost all the figures.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So that was the excitement over here for the week, in between, well, I'll just do it now since you've brought it up in such a commercial fashion with no regard. for the people who are going through things here. I said my sympathy to anyone listening who is affected by this blazing. Yes. But the only goddamn thing I've done is watch plane crash footage and sign books, and I'm happy to report that what's that old country song Johnny Cash did?
Starting point is 00:20:56 How high is the water, Mama? Eight feet and rising. The flood is really. proceeding over here because we have signed, I say we, I have signed, I'm not auto-pinning or using any accomplices, folks, but I have signed and we, meaning me and Ajkas, have processed over 1,500 books now. And that's not even halfway. We're close there, about close. But we're right. I'm getting more accomplished than are coming in now, because I told you last week I handed Hodgast's 400 things and he handed me back 375 orders.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Well, we've gained a little bit more ground and we've got an assembly process to this where a lot of the similar things are getting filled at the same time so it saves in between labor. But folks, Jim Cornett.com, if you want to get in on the hit new book of the wrestling industry, heroes and friends. I can do this. The orders that we have right now are going to go out before Thanksgiving. And that's,
Starting point is 00:22:12 maybe even well before, well, I won't say, well, folks, if you wanted my Christmas, please, in the next couple of weeks, I would say at best, get this to me. I'm being serious. I don't want to be late down anybody's chimney. you hate to come late at Christmas.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Jimcoranet.com. That's the plug there that I was going to do. But anyway, is this your show or my show? This is your show. What was your favorite video? What did you think? Which video of the plane crash you just think captured everything? I like the one of the trucker where you have the point of view of what he's seeing,
Starting point is 00:22:50 but also you see him sitting there. Oh, yeah, they did the split screen and he's like, oh, shit. No, I don't know if I grinned. to them, but I would have to say the one of the of the guys driving down the road feeling hungry and cold and all of a sudden there's the plane in front of him
Starting point is 00:23:11 like he's on the fucking tarmac and right over the building and that people would not if you didn't know that that had actually happened that would be one of those AI fucking deals. I'm not going over to
Starting point is 00:23:32 the airport in the next little while. You have to do, if you go anywhere in the western end of the county, you have to kind of go by that area. But I don't have call to go over there very often either. You know where I don't have call to go very often, Brian? Where's that? Any goddamn where. I like it that way.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Where have you been? Are you on the international desk? This is my show. I know. That's why I'm going to try to take it. somewhere. Goddamn quit hanging around my neck, dragging me back in. You've been on the international desk, I understand.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Is there news of, is there news of the, the former Prince Andrew that is now Andrew Mountbatten, Messerschmitt, the 3rd? Actually, there is a little bit of news. As a follow-up, these have been popular segments here on the show. People like hearing your take on one of the oldest promotions in the world. The Royal Family in England. The Royal Family.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I have a couple things here. This one caught my attention from the New York Post. Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, paid one peppercorn annually to rent the Royal Lodge. Oh, God damn it. And UK polls are fuming. What? One peppercorn. One peppercorn.
Starting point is 00:25:01 One peppercorn. What? You can see why people don't like this fucking guy. Send me 40 hookers. By the way, here's my peppercorn for the next year's rent. Here's my peppercorn now. I'm assuming that this is some kind of since the whole royal family thing, now the gimmick is ceremonial anyway, right?
Starting point is 00:25:32 and it's just their gimmick because they they love the tradition over there across the pond. But is this some kind of like 1,312 Magna Carta addendum where they hadn't even come up with the farthing yet and they were trading in peppercorns
Starting point is 00:25:51 or what's the goddamn what's a gig here, Slick? Well, again, I'll go to this article by Alex Oliviera. How corny Andrew Windsor, the English commoner, formerly known as Prince. They're putting a boots to him already now. Another one commoner.
Starting point is 00:26:16 He was required to pay what amounts to a single peppercorn a year to rent the Royal 30-room mansion where he's lived for three decades. The odd rent arrangement dates back centuries. to a time when the spicy little seeds brought a saucier price than today. Holy Jesus Christ. And were frequently used as a symbolic sum in English real estate deals that required payment to be legally validated. One peppercorn is typically a stand-in for the likes of $1 rent in a lease today.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I don't know what my voice cracked there. In a lease today, according to the Guardian. and it is unlikely Prince Andrew has been actually handing over a little black ball to the royal family every year since he moved into the Royal Lodge. Oh, I bet he's been handing over some balls to members of the royal family, but...
Starting point is 00:27:16 But even though Andrew is already on his way out of the digs, thanks to his ties to the late pedophile financier, Jeffrey Epstein... Wait a minute. You know, that's... they should change that description because that makes it sound like he was only, he only financed the pedophiles. Like the pedophiles would come to him for financial backing. That is the way it reads there. You're exactly right. But lawmakers are still demanding
Starting point is 00:27:45 answers about the nutty setup. I have a quote here from MP Jeffrey Clinton Brown. There is considerable and understandable public interest in the spending of public money in relation to Prince Andrew, which, in part, stems from the fact that he is no longer a working royal and from serious and disturbing allegations made against him. A working royal. So again, was he on the crew that had to go do the fucking groundskeeping over at Windsor Castle one weekend a month, or how was he a working royal? If it's one peppercorn for rent, how much I think they're paying the landscapers?
Starting point is 00:28:26 Jesus, I bet not a goddamn single solitary mustard seed. He is now expected to be moved far away from the royal family to a home... It's going to be moved far away from the royal family to a home on Sandringham Estate after reportedly demanding two homes on the Windsor Grounds, Frogmore Cottage and Adelaide Cottage, where Prince Harry and Prince William formerly live with their families. Is there a goddamn legal statute in
Starting point is 00:29:01 the courts in England that this son of a bitch can't just be told to go and get a job somewhere and rent him an apartment? Why, how is it ultimately, no matter what he does or how far away the royal family wants to move him, they're still putting his fucking fat ass up somewhere.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Why? Because of your sperm donor? Roger Clinton had to work gigs. He had to go book dates. Billy Carter had to come up with a beer. No, I've said some, we've got many fine listeners across the pond over there and jolly old England. Can they explain to us why this some bitch, they can't just say, no, just go.
Starting point is 00:29:50 just go on and, you know, fucking Home Depot is hiring. I don't know what to fuck. Have you saved any money during the time you've been a working royal? It does say here, Jim, Andrew, whose only known source of personally earned income is a small pension from his time in the Royal Navy will have his life privately funded by King Charles himself going forward, according to Buckingham Palace.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Why? You've embarrassed me on a public stage. You are a waste rule and a fornicator. You are banished from the family. Go get a goddamn job. Or you should have saved your goddamn money since you apparently have to spend none. How much are they paying the pensioners
Starting point is 00:30:41 on the Royal Navy fucking pensioner goddamn deal? And I have the official statement from Buckingham Palace I think last time we read a statement, actually, this is the official order. The king has been pleased by letters patent under the Great Seal of the Realm, dated 3 November 2025, to declare that Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor shall no longer be entitled to hold and enjoy the style, title, or attribute of royal highness and the dignity of prince. So that's the official statement. Could he get sued if he just kept calling himself, like if he,
Starting point is 00:31:27 like if I went from WWF to WCW and did the gimmick that Vince created, he would sue the company and I wouldn't be able to use it. I think he's going to have to be the people's prince. Why wouldn't you just wrap, if you have nothing else going on, just wrap yourself in like a whole new, I've decided I'm the king of England. Why why not go all the way? Well, no, I think he needs to appeal to the people. Yes, all my life, I've never had to work.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Don't you wish you were me? I had 40 hookers at one time. I'm the people's prince. All of you would have done the same. And then he could, you see it worked over here. It can work over there. Just be a big, fat, fucking rich pig. I seriously do autograph shows.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I mean, people are going to hate them and try to kill them and stuff, but do autograph shows. Do whatever you need to do. get out there, work your gimmick, make some money. He could get the crowns from where Lawler got to crowns. Because King Charles supporting him doesn't mean like, here's endless amounts of money to just buy, but you have to stay home.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Just stay home and, you know, it's probably the bare minimum he's going to give him, I would think. Is there a hooker allowance from King Charles? Man, if you're a hooker, if you're a hooker, and you hear from Windsor or Mountbatten Windsor, do you think like this is my golden opportunity? Either I'm going to get a bunch of money out of him or I'm going to the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Well, no, because now he's cut off, number one, then number two, we already know he's getting hookers, so it's not like news. So, you know, he's like, but now if he knew about King Charles and whatever King Charles has been doing around Camilla.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Boy, howdy. You know, when she wears long earrings, she looks like a set of Venetian blind. Yeah, he's too late. The scandal was cheating on Diana with Camilla. And then he just stayed with Camilla for the rest of his life. Well, but we don't know what else he was doing because he's the prince.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And apparently his brother was deflecting all the fucking heat by going off and being a complete fucking lunatic. So I wonder if old Andrews, formerly Prince, now Mount Batten Smythington, has any dirt on Charlie? All right, well, Charlie says, I love my good and plenty, and this is your show. Well, it's my show, but you got to help me understand something
Starting point is 00:34:08 because we're going to talk about later on Tony Contor, Tony, as I feel for him. When you, when wrestling finally drives you to the wall and you've lost your mind. It's a horrible thing. And we'll talk about that later. But how could he not even bother to have anybody do due to due diligence? Since he's the wrestling nerd, the statistics nerd, the factoid's nerd, the history nerd, he regularly apparently
Starting point is 00:34:51 calls Uncle Dave, who's the biggest independent wrestling news conglomerator. If it's an apartment house in Japan with the glee cast, he'll know about it, Uncle Dave. How did they manage to name their new title after a goddamn championship that the NWA is using right now? And announce that the reason for bringing that title is to honor. the heritage of when it was the NWA title, when it's the NWA title right now, they're actively using it. They haven't,
Starting point is 00:35:31 I know some people will say whatever the NWA is doing right now is a secret, and there may be validity to that. But if you're enough of a wrestling nerd, that you could bother to do any kind of, as the kids say, now do your research, Google it, whatever, how did they do this? intentionally, clearly. You know, I don't think it was like,
Starting point is 00:35:57 oh, we had no idea the NWA has one too. I think they knew they didn't care. Maybe there's some feelings between the two over the shockwave trademark. We can get to that in a minute. Well, why would it be so important to have another belt in a company where there are so many championship belts
Starting point is 00:36:18 that nobody keep track of what's what and who's got what, and it's ridiculous? you got to name the new belt that and invite again people are going to regardless of what kind of validity that Tony might think that he has or whatever people are always going to pick the little guy against the dick except for the most AEW extremist and they generally are the ones that like the little promotions
Starting point is 00:36:49 are they not? Yeah, I mean, I guess, but You know, thinking about this, I have a problem with Tony Kahn creating another championship. I don't have a problem with him naming it the national championship. However, that changes once you pretend that this is anything to do with the old NWA national championship. And actually name the people in the talking about it that held it in the 80s. Yeah, Wahoo got a shout out in 2025 on AEW Dynamite. So, I mean, it seems kind of shitty.
Starting point is 00:37:23 But, I mean, there are the same titles in so many different places. It just so happens that Crockett and WCW didn't have the same exact titles as WWF, but, yeah, again, I don't think that... If Tony didn't have 20 championships already, I wouldn't have a problem with this. But it does seem like they're fucking with the NWA when they pretend that it has anything to do with the NWA's... Well, it's not even really their history. The history of the NWA has aligned themselves with first. Well, and again, they're trying to make the, well, it was on this network 40 years.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Well, yeah, congratulations. It's way too tenuous a reason to continue to do all this shit just because it's been, it might have, it's been 30 years since Grandpa Munster has had super scary Saturday on TBS. I'd love for him for him to bring it back. I don't know if it would be successful. but it's just the I don't understand what his fascination is with the endless belts for no reason and no purpose and even if he wants to get even with the NWA because the trademark thing that you're about to bring up why do it this way where they just kind of looks bad or indifferent to most people because they don't care
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah, and again, it is an announcement in the midst of a tournament to crown new women's tag team champions. Like, they're not even done with that yet, and they already announced the next title. That's coming. I have an article here from WrestleMania. He did a good write-up of this. They're on a Patreon. AEW's new national championship title on Dynamite on Wednesday, quickly caught attention.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Not just because it'll be roughly the 12th title belt for the promotion. And that's not counting Ring of Honor either, right? Oh, I don't know, actually. Oh, no, it's not. I know it's not. Because remember we counted, and I think we got up 17 or 18, if you count this new one with Ring of Honor included. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:39:34 But because the title shares a name with a championship in a prior incarnation of the National Wrestling Alliance in the 1980s, as well as the current version of the NWA under Billy Corgan's leadership. AEW's introduction to the title whose first champion is to be decided that the company's full-gear pay-per-view on November 22nd also coincides with a separate...
Starting point is 00:40:00 In a casino gauntlet match. Wow, we've never seen that idea from Tony Kahn before. You know, it's funny, my first thought before I even go back to this was someone must be returning and say, I'm not coming back unless you give me a belt. Well, let's go back.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It also coincides with a separate ongoing dispute between AEW and the NWA over a different name, Shockwave. G.I. Joe should get on this. There was a G.I. Joe figure, all in blue, name Shockwave. At least one NWA wrestler claimed on social media that the introduction of the new title by AEW was retaliation over the Shockwave trademark litigation.
Starting point is 00:40:48 The NWA has used that name for some of its wrestling events as early as 2020. AEW tried to trademark the name last year, possibly for a new television program, which has not launched. AEW and the NWA did not respond to our request for comment for this report. Our questions to AEW included asking whether the company has any response to the claims that the new title's name was chosen as a retirement. tallyatory move. We also asked whether A.W. Has any interest to use the shockwave name? So let's stop there. That sums up a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Well, again, Tony has a fascination with the names and the belts and the whole thing I know. But let's say that they wanted to call their show Shockwave. And another wrestling company has been not just in Dyersburg, Tennessee at the Herb Welch-Resselplex,
Starting point is 00:41:56 but on the internet and easily accessible Google searches that you can find using it for a few years, did he go to Billy Corgan and say, hey, I got a lot of money, how much you want to just let me use Shockwave? Well, if he did,
Starting point is 00:42:18 and Billy Corgan, turned him down and said, no, I don't even want, however much you want to give me, I'll keep it. They just come up with another fucking name. It's a shame. I said before, when Ring of Honor went on the air on the Sinclair stations, I'd called Howard Brody because of Ringmasters was so cool that he used for the New Japan shows that he syndicated worldwide with his.
Starting point is 00:42:49 him and Hero Matsuda. I said, are you still using that? Can I use it? Can we work something? No, I'm still going to do something with whatever. I said, okay. God damn it, I love you, Howard. But we didn't fucking just use it because he had used it and it wouldn't be right.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And he would have potentially sued. But even if you would have sued, you know, you see what I'm saying. It's not, Tony Kahn's got more problems with his fucking TV shows and what the names of them are. Yeah, I mean, obviously there must be a breakdown in communication if there ever was any between the NWA and AEW. And maybe Tony, who does seem to get upset when people sue, even if they're right, maybe Tony did do this as a fuck-you to the NWA.
Starting point is 00:43:37 To me, the bigger issue is just that there's another belt in AEW. That's to me as the biggest issue. If you're the NWA, do you use this? worth it to lean into this on your show, us versus them. They're trying to screw with us. Is it worth or not worth it? Well, unless there is some, unless their legal advice is to not do that because, for whatever the legal problem is, yeah, Mondo, Mike Mondo, is the national champion right now.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I would have him out there going, I'm the real NWA national champion. We can prove it. Here's the lineage. We don't know what you're trying to pull AEW, but if you want to come over here or I'll come there. And I pretty much can almost guarantee you that if it was really a goddamn one of the old shoots from the 30s
Starting point is 00:44:38 and whoever they could put the fucking belt on or are going to put the belt on an AEW Mondo and fucking stretch them, even though he's too nice to actually do it and they'd never let it go to that but you could believe it I'd say fucking promo the hell out of it
Starting point is 00:44:55 I dare you to come and face me he said I mean Tony and Billy Corgan are both from Chicago right or Tony's outside of Chicago but same difference Tony's from Neptune I don't think there's any
Starting point is 00:45:11 goddamn Chicago connection there whatever the fuck or you're going to sit down over a deep dish pizza. Corgan's a vegetarian. See, he has another reason not to trust him. Well, I'm not even saying they should make up. I'm saying lean into it. This is my town.
Starting point is 00:45:26 You better not come back here, Four Eyes. I'm going to knock you out. Well, now then, have you seen Corgan looks like a goddamn disconnected bucket of body parts? That's what makes it funny. That's what makes it funny. So think of Billy Corgan getting into a fist fight with Tony Khan. Tell me it's not a funny thought.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Tell me it's not a slap fight you wouldn't want to watch. That's like when the fucking George Carlin routine, you can't make rape funny. Okay, imagine Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. Is that kind of the same vein of humor there? I still don't find that one funny. I don't know about what George Carlin was saying there, but maybe it was the other way around.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It's one way and not the other. think it counts as beastiality. Well, but nevertheless, speaking of screwing the pooch. So that's what Tony is doing right now with his company and with his new title. Just to end this, do you think Tony's wrong to introduce the national title for whatever reason right now?
Starting point is 00:46:33 I think it's ludicrous to introduce any more titles when what he needs to do is get rid of half of what he's got and make the other one's important. So there's that. I think that it's needless to introduce a championship of the same name as one of the smaller companies that with a lot of fans is always going to get the underdog goodwill. Tony's got all these billions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:47:04 He's picking on these, even though Corgan's a rock star, he's peanuts compared to, you know, his bumper man father. I think it's just stupid to name it the same thing as a current championship in another company and try to draw the lineage to the goddamn title when it was an NWA title when the other company is technically the NWA and also with the shockwave thing again. Come up with your own shit.
Starting point is 00:47:40 If it's active shit that's been done by a company that has some level of recognition in the last few years. The fuck. That's my opinion on. Well, we stay on top of this and see what happens. But you know what? I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:48:05 See, I asked that and answered it real quick. What we ought to do is just start a contest to decide maybe to pick will Tony Kahn introduce three more championship belts in 2026 or will he introduce two more, maybe less than three or more than three, stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:48:27 because when you pick things like that and you're right about being picking like that, then you can get paid at prize picks. That's right. I'm a picking and I'm a grinning. You know, that's why our sponsor, our fine, proud sponsor that brings this show to you by virtue of sponsoring it.
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Starting point is 00:49:26 The football is still being played, isn't it? The football is happening. The football's happening. Well, let's say you want to pick where those football players that do those things is going to do more or less of them. Well, if you just pick more or less on at least two player stats, if you get your picks right, you could cash in. you can get action on football and basketball.
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Starting point is 00:50:14 And also do they go into overtime? What do you want to pick? Take women in between the innings, it's been said. Well, take them where? If you want to pick more on Steph Curry's points, three-pointers and assists, now you can pick all of them in the same lineup. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:51:21 You won't know anything. You won't know those things. You can use your imagination. But what you can do with prize picks is use what you know, use your information and your feelings on things. And you can go. That's right. And you could win. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And how you play is up to you. If you want flex a bit. If you want to play dirty, you can do that too. We encourage people. No, we don't. Get in there and rough it up. Follow the rules. That's what we encourage with price.
Starting point is 00:51:48 If you want, well, you got to when you're down in the trenches and it's third down and you got to get in there and play some dirty football. If you want flexibility, choose flex play where you can get paid even if one of your picks misses. Well, fuck. So then if you're counting on you getting paid, if you're right, you can get paid sometimes if you're wrong, well, you're getting paid a lot. And if you want the biggest payouts, go for the power play.
Starting point is 00:52:14 because that's where the big money is. And boy, I'll tell you what, that power play, it's electrifying. They're going to plug you in to a specially operated chair that you watch the game in. And if your picks hit, then boom, you've got a bunch of money.
Starting point is 00:52:32 But if your picks miss, you're plugged into the wall and they're going to give you a little... No, again, ladies and gentlemen, there won't be any... Antonio Anoki, he can use a zap, just like you mentioned, have it. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have it, use it. And of course, what we mean is
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Starting point is 00:53:57 CCE is the code to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup at prize picks. And for you people who do this type of thing, you know how to do this thing. And this is the thing that you like to do. All right, Brian, well, before we get to the bad news, news about pro wrestling. We got bad news about the world in general. Things just keep on happening. And this, I'd heard about this briefly. I saw a thing on the inner webs, but this is documentation from one of the listeners. This is an email from Rye, Ryee. What would that be short for? It may be his locale. He may live in Rye, New York. Well, no, it says.
Starting point is 00:54:46 White play land. No, it doesn't know. Anyway. way, because it ain't Ryan. Well, we don't know that it's a guy, Rye. But he talks like a guy. Well, I'll let you be the judge. Because this is announcing a bigger problem we've got here, ladies gentlemen in the country today. He says,
Starting point is 00:55:05 Wendy's has betrayed, flabbergasted, horn swoggled and bamboozled me. In recent years, I've heavily cut back on fast food for my health, but on the rare occasion that I would get takeout, it was a almost always a classic double cheeseburger at Wendy's. Well, I had a particularly crappy week, so I stopped at Wendy's on Friday evening for some
Starting point is 00:55:30 comfort food while going home from work. I ordered the double cheeseburger combo, get the bag, drive home, open the burger wrapper, and they're shredded lettuce on the burger where a whole leaf is supposed to be. Brian, Wendy's, after over 50,000. After over 50, years has gone to shredded lettuce. Do you have an issue with shredded lettuce in general or just because Wendy's burgers should be with a full leaf of lettuce? Well, I will finish this email and then I will echo my thoughts. I ate the burger and fries because I was hungry well before I got this meal and then I look
Starting point is 00:56:10 online and find out that Wendy's changed the lettuce on their burgers and chicken sandwiches from whole leaf romaine lettuce to pre-revees. to pre-shredded iceberg lettuce that arrives to the locations and bags. That whole leaf of romaine lettuce was vital to what set Wendy's burgers apart from those of other change. The crunch of it complimented the savouriness of the beef and cheese perfectly. This shredded lettuce was a soggy wet mess that on its own would be a garbage Caesar salad I wouldn't feed to a pet rabbit. and I think that echoes might know I hate shredded lettuce shredded lettuce comes off
Starting point is 00:56:51 if you're eating in a car it's all over the place it's all over your lap it's all over the seats it's all over everything if you're eating inside it's all over the table it serves no goddamn purpose except to make the burger look thicker so you think you got more for your money it's good in a taco well that's a completely different subject that we're not talking about here.
Starting point is 00:57:17 On sandwiches, no. And also it's easier to, they just grind everything up. The fucking hard parts and all the other shit's easier to disguise. They're using all of the entrails of the lettuce. You know, you kind of out of. You dismissed me when I told you about my issues with them getting rid of the grilled chicken sandwich from the menu. But they started with the grilled chicken sandwich,
Starting point is 00:57:43 now they're coming for your lettuce. Now you realize the problem's real? Well, they didn't even start there. They started when they used to have the good fries, the big old fat, long, crunchy on the outside and tender on the inside French fries, and then they changed this fucking sea salt and skin on, it's like eating mulch chips.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And then they changed the pickles, remember, years ago? and I thought the meat was spoiled because they were the bread and butter instead of the dill. I've never ordered pickles at Wendy's again since. I don't know if they went back or not. Then you mentioned the grilled chicken, which was when I was watching my girlish figure, when I had a weight issue, the grill, the Ozziago Ranch grilled chicken sandwich, at least made me think I was doing something. They took that away.
Starting point is 00:58:42 They quit flattening the patties. until you got this oddly symmetrical fucking exactly square rubber looking fucking fake patty that makes the burger
Starting point is 00:58:58 too tall when you get a triple to get your mouth around it they the chili there's no substance there's practically no meat and it's watery as cat's piss what haven't they fucked up and they never did bring back the
Starting point is 00:59:16 hot apple turnover. So, there you have it. The world's going to hell. They have French toast sticks in the morning. They have French toast sticks. Why do I feel like we're Laurel and Hardy now? Do you like a Big Mac? French toast sticks in the morning. Do you like a Big Mac? Because that's pretty much stayed the same forever. I like a Big Mac only because of the sauce. So often I might get a quarter pounder, but ask them to put the Big Mac sauce on it. But then they fuck that up because you can't ask, people don't have goddamn comprehension for anything off of the set pattern and menu. The last couple of years that I was traveling, McDonald's was,
Starting point is 01:00:08 oh, now you get bacon on your burgers. Three different times in a row I went to McDonald's ordered bacon on the goddamn burger. They didn't put bacon on the burger because they weren't used to putting bacon on their burgers. So I just quit ordering it. And I think they quit offering it because they never remembered to put the fucking shit on. Wendy's does. Wendy's does put their bacon on their burgers, I can confirm.
Starting point is 01:00:34 But you know what? And that's another thing. You can read a newspaper through a strip of their bacon. It is lighterweight bacon and it used to be. I'm just telling you. You're not lying. You're not lying. I don't even think it's bad.
Starting point is 01:00:52 bacon. And what about the whopper? I've got to the age where Burger King's flame broiled taste gives me the sour belches, to be quite honest. And also the frame, the frame broiled or the flame broiled taste is somewhat negated by the fact that they do it on Tuesday and then microwave it fucking Saturday afternoon for your dining pleasure. That's what they do at Burger King? it the last number of meals i've had from burger king it didn't come directly off the fucking grill there's a lot of microwave business going on at burger king i can guarantee you i've been around
Starting point is 01:01:40 brian i've seen some things it as a matter of fact i ended up i'm trying now to remember what it was i can't remember the exact thing but i used to love red robin the red robin burger chain, do you have this up there? Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? I remember the jingle. Well, I don't remember their jingle, but I used to like them until there was one in Baltimore that when I was up there to do post-production for Ring of Honor, Delirious and I went a couple times, and some way or another, I busted them as it was a microwave fucking burger. And then I started
Starting point is 01:02:26 figuring it out. I ordered a couple then I figured it out. They were relying heavily on the fucking nuclear energy also. So there. All right. You got to think about it. Should someone use that? If they're going to do it, should they use that as their gimmick? Like, we will microwave your food. Your food will be ready so fast. You can just come
Starting point is 01:02:45 here, get your food, and get the hell out of here, because we will microwave it. We're going to tell you the truth, unlike these other bastards. Well, that might not be bad. But then when you go someplace and it takes forever and it's still microwave. That really pisses you off. Dutch Mantell and I were at a goddamn eye hop. Oh, the best. Right next to the Universal in Orlando.
Starting point is 01:03:08 After a show, it was fucking late. We were starving. And it took forever. And finally they brought, and I'd gotten a burger and breakfast because I had missed both breakfast and dinner. And it was so goddamn. microwaved and the egg was rubber. I picked the two fried eggs up between two fingers and carried them up to the fucking front counter to show the woman and it remained in one piece.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And I'm wiggling, as I'm saying, we waited 45 minutes and you bring me this to the fucking table and I'm wiggling two fried eggs in the air in front of her that are not in any way falling apart. And I said, just keep it all. We're going down the fucking street, and we left it sitting there.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Did she put up any kind of fight? No, because apparently the egg disgusted her, too. But I don't think can you, they can't charge you if you don't eat anything, can they? Just because if you order it, but you don't eat it, what if you die of a stroke between the time you ordered it and the time you goddamn get it at the table, or are they going to charge the estate?
Starting point is 01:04:24 If you touch it, you buy it. You at least bought that egg. Well, then I would have been more than happy to give her a dollar for that egg so I could have fucking handed it off to her. She didn't look like she wanted to touch it. What were we talking about? Wendy's.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Oh, well, yeah, so fuck them. They've just, they've just, they've just disappointed me. It's like a child that you raised from an infant and suddenly turns to a life of crime and it's just a waste rule in a scratch. They're the Prince Andrew. of fast food.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Wendy Mountbatten, Windsor. Speaking of mighty people falling, you found an odd picture that you just sent me of the four strangest combination of people. I said that in an awkward fashion, but the strangest combination of four people, it fits,
Starting point is 01:05:19 that I've ever seen it from your wrestling news files. and we've narrowed it down to a time frame, but it's a picture of Dory Funk Jr., Nick Goulis and George Goulis, with Jerry Lee Lewis. And only two of them are actually wearing anything above the waist. You're going to describe the photo there to the folks. Yeah, again, this is a very interesting photo of a backstage.
Starting point is 01:05:51 we figure at a wrestling event slash Jerry Lee Lewis concert. Dory Fung Jr. has a lot of sweat. Looks like he just wrestled a match. Looks rather young. Early 70s probably. Jerry Lee Lewis also, no shirt. He's not sweaty. He's also not looking at the camera.
Starting point is 01:06:14 He's kind of staring at Nick Goulis. Next to Jerry Lee Lewis in between him and Nick Gullis. is what appears to be a very, very young George Gullis, or teenage George Gulles, maybe. Late teens. I think, I think if I'm right on the year there, I believe it would have been 1971 or 72, right as he was starting to become a TV announcer
Starting point is 01:06:40 before he transitioned to referee and wrestling. Well, he's wearing glasses and also the biggest patch I've ever seen on a blazer. And next to him is Nick Goulas with his famous Nick Goulas with his famous Nick Gulles look. But Jerry Lee Lewis looks wild in this photo. And also there's an accompanying picture that's why we've been able to narrow this down a little bit. There's an accompanying picture of the front of the downtown the Nashville Municipal Auditorium,
Starting point is 01:07:09 the old building that Nick used to go to for big shows. And the marquee says July 1st, wrestling and Jerry Lee. Lewis concert. And so I'm saying the early 70s, that was the time period where Jerry Lee Lewis could be bought. And they did some kind of co-promotion there in Nashville where they did a Jerry Lee concert and had matches and Dory Funk Jr. was the NWA champion at that time.
Starting point is 01:07:42 So he was in a main event. And they'll have to ask Scott Thiel. They probably drew a heck of a crowd. but I think the reason for this picture is Dory Fug Jr. probably wanted to have his picture taken with Jerry Lee Lewis. And Nick probably did too. And of course, Nick is going to, George, come in here, boy, get your picture of Jerry Lee Lewis. And Dory's match is over, so he's just wrestled. Jerry Lee has had time, his show was earlier.
Starting point is 01:08:14 He's had time to change and dry off, but probably to get drunk, but he's still not wearing a shirt and he's staring at Nick Goulis probably because he's waiting to get paid so he can get the fuck out of there. It's the happiest I've ever seen Dory Funk Jr. ever. Yeah, he is smiling. My God. He's
Starting point is 01:08:34 having a time of his life. And George's snake just dumbfounded just like staring off into the camera and that patch is as big as a title belt and it's a wrestling patch, a guy with a headlock on the other guy and it says
Starting point is 01:08:49 pro wrestling at the bottom because Nick was like sell you're going to be a wrestling announcer go get you get you a patch on your jacket look official he comes up with this fucking thing it covers half his coat but that yeah that and see we've talked about it and my new book heroes and friends goes into a lot of history of wrestling in Nashville with the country music crossover with the the the wrestling personalities and the country music personalities were the only celebrities in Nashville for years before there was pro sports teams or whatever
Starting point is 01:09:30 and actually wrestling kind of predated the country music business since there was established wrestling and they were selling out the hippodrome when it was just you know the grand old Opry was a radio show there was no industry around country music at that point But and Jerry Jarrett lived next door to Bobby Bear in Hendersonville in the house that George Jones and Tammy Wynette had lived in when they were a couple and Johnny Cash was across the lake. So there was always crossover.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And Jerry Lee lived in Memphis or on the outskirts of Memphis for years and years. So it was a three hour drive and he did a lot of club dates and shit. but you, I've found out before we went on here, when you told me about this picture, there's a story that you actually don't know it, have not heard, because I gave you the punchline, and you're like, you didn't laugh, and I realize you don't know this story.
Starting point is 01:10:39 When Jerry Lee Lewis and Bill Dundee almost got in a fucking fight. Yeah, I've never heard that story ever. It was, the year was 1976, because this was when Dundee had, he had come in the territory the year before as a heel, but now he was a baby face and he was starting at his first push. He and Big Bad John were the Southern Tag Team champions and Plowboy Frazier had been Lawler's partner, but he had just turned on Lawler and Lawler turned on him, whatever, Frazier is a baby face. and they're in there at a spot show around Memphis one Saturday night
Starting point is 01:11:26 and they come back yet or Friday night they came back in a stay for television on Saturday morning and there was a club down there called Hernando's hideaway I think it was I don't know if it's in Memphis or it's crossed the state line in Mississippi but it's a suburb and in the old days Jerry Lee Lewis would go to this love whatever he wanted and just he'd just get up and play or sing or do whatever the fuck they wanted and he wanted and they let him right but dundee and fraser go in there and there's nothing going on and this was when fraser thought he was a country singer remember he actually cut a 45 an a side and a b side they both were f sides with uh remember the the memphis record
Starting point is 01:12:16 producer Jim Dickinson. Yeah. He was the original jelly roll. Yeah. You see, Frazier in those days, he had to flap his arms, you can tell whether he's rolling or walking. But anyway, so Frazier had done this record, he wanted to get up and sing,
Starting point is 01:12:35 and there was nothing going on to say, let Frazier get up and sing. And then Jerry Lee Lewis shows up with his entourage, bodyguard, stooges, whatever he traveled with, and those. days he wants to get on the stage but fraser won't get off the fucking stage he keeps singing it jerry lee lewis gets mad he's mad at the manager of the place or whatever they're telling fraser get off and there's words right as fraser gets off jerry lee lewis gets up there and says something about well now that the fake fucking wrestler's finished or something like that and there's dundee and he
Starting point is 01:13:12 stands up. What do you mean fake motherfucker? I guarantee you Dundee might have had a cocktail or two. What do you mean fake motherfucker in that accent? And now there's going to be a goddamn there's Jerry Lee Lewis. It could Dundee obviously could fucking beat the shit out of Jerry
Starting point is 01:13:28 Lee Lewis but he has several people with him and they're the ones that are supposed to do the fight and so Jerry Lee don't get sued. And there's fuck you's going on and Dundee as there's all squared off Dundee turns next to him to look for Plowboy Frazier, right?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Seven feet tall, 425 pounds, the biggest man in the goddamn room. He looks around and he sees elbows and shoe soles from Frazier going out to front door. What the fucking now is Dundee and he's fucking all these guys and he's like, okay, and the manager's trying to calm it down.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And Dundee just decides, well, I'll leave. So Dundee goes out to front door in the parking lot. There's Frasier in the parking lot. He said, Frasier, where the fuck? where are you? Oh, neighbor, I knew there's going to be trouble, so I wouldn't get my knife. Anyway. That's great. But there was always a fun celebrity crossover at Memphis or in Nashville when it came to
Starting point is 01:14:30 musicians and the wrestlers. There's a great book that was written about him by Nick Tosh. It's called Hellfire. If anyone gets a copy, it's a fantastically written book, and it's really entertaining. It begins with a true story, him driving over to Graceland to kill Elvis. Yeah. That's how it begins. And like the guy married his 13-year-old cousin, and that's not even like the worst shit that this guy's been involved with. And he was accused of like murder and people think he may have murdered one of his wives.
Starting point is 01:14:59 And they called him the killer. That was his nickname. Imagine if you were accused of killer people and your nickname was the killer. And you embraced it. Hellfire by Nick Toshes. That's my book of the week. Myra was his 13-year-old cousin. That's right.
Starting point is 01:15:15 She was a meek, timid little thing. But yeah, it was during the period of time that one of his many wives died of suspicious circumstances that he was living, as I said, either in or right outside of Memphis in a posh location. And Jimmy Swagger is his cousin, too. Yes. From Faraday, Louisiana. Jimmy Swaggart and Jerry Lee Lewis.
Starting point is 01:15:45 They came from somehow the same bloodline. Anyhow, you know who is not going to be living in any posh accommodations, apparently, going forward, poor Ridge Holland. You've been keeping up with this, Brian, but for the listeners edification, Ridge Holland, the WDWE talent, we've talked about him a couple times. But he apparently got hurt. And when he was working on a TNA show against one of the TNA talents,
Starting point is 01:16:27 I was at Moose, I can't remember. But however he got hurt, the point is he's been out injured. The WWE has been paying for his rehab and paid for his medical care, whatever, but the story came out a week or two ago that they weren't going to renew his contract when it was coming up here in mid-November. And he managed to get them to, after his contract was already expiring, he sent out a tweet that pissed him off so bad they fired him nine days early. So he gets nine days less pay.
Starting point is 01:17:12 this is a first i think that i can remember of of this ever isn't it what did he tweet out because again i know a little bit about this story but this i got here right here he tweeted out or wrote out or whatever the kids do on the interwebs right but this is the statement he made in public i never thought i'd not be able to pay my mortgage i feel like i've just been hung out to dry after getting injured working for another company on behalf of WWE. Add that to my contract not being renewed knowing that I wouldn't be able to wrestle for seven months. This is brutal. Yes, they are taking care of the surgery and physical therapy, but let's be honest. That's the bare minimum after what we sacrifice for the company. Plus the possibility of having to get my neck fuse,
Starting point is 01:18:04 too. Talk about getting totally fucked. So that doesn't paint a pretty picture, does it? no that's uh that seems like someone ready for a lawsuit or something well he was again his contract was going to expire i guess on november 14th but after he wrote that they cut him as basically a breach of contract in public public complaining is a breach of contract now i mean i love all parts of this is so ridiculous. Well, to be fair, what would you do? If you, and again, it's a publicly traded company, so maybe
Starting point is 01:18:48 it's not the same as just if you ran your own little business. But if what your guys goes out there, you're paying him still. You give him the courtesy of saying you're not going to be coming back. Here's the window. And then it's over. And then he's just like, fuck this. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Yeah, well, see, here's the thing. I'm not on anybody's side in this. I'm going to make fun of everybody. They cut him, so he got like nine days less pay, right? So then not only, he couldn't wait nine days to make that statement until he got the last check is what I'm saying. But here's another thing. Then they put out a go fund me,
Starting point is 01:19:34 a go fund me for Ridge Holland his real name is Luke Menzies apparently and would you like to hear the description on the go fund me yeah when you say they put up you mean him like he put up his own go fund me or someone else well it no it it wasn't it it's not a fake it's if it wasn't him it's his family or authorized people go fund me was put out
Starting point is 01:20:04 for the family. Let's put it that way. The description was a loving father of three suffered injuries whilst on the job. Injuries that have not only left him unable to work, but also abandoned by the very company he served. Despite being injured at work, he was hired as a 1099 contractor, meaning he's not eligible for workers' compensation, sick leave, or any support from the employer. Since the injury, the company has offered to pay for medical expenses, but no pay, no new contract. The family has already endured a 55% pay cut last year and have done everything possible to reduce their expenses. He is now facing months of recovery, including another surgery in March of next year, and potentially a neck surgery this month, leaving him unable to work until at least late April or early May if recovery goes as hoped.
Starting point is 01:21:01 His wife, who has already stretched thin, caring for him and their three young children, is doing our best, but without any nearby family or support system, it's simply not enough. Every day is a struggle mentally and physically. They would like to provide a sense of stability for their children who are watching their world slowly unravel. They're doing everything they can, but it's not enough. Jesus. They're at risk of losing their home. falling into debt they may never escape of having their kids face a holiday season filled
Starting point is 01:21:37 with fear and uncertainty rather than joy. There are $8761 in donations at press time of which it says $5,000, basically $1,000 each came from gender, Mayhall, Nick Jackson, Kyle Feltcher, Chelsea Green, and Omos. basically his friends, I guess. But here's the thing, Brian, is that for any situation that might have been a little dramatic in the wording. But what Uncle Dave is reporting, and again, we take that with a grain of salt,
Starting point is 01:22:22 but at the same time it seems to be in line with what we have heard about the pay scale these days, he says, if you figure that he was, on a $350 to $500,000 contract last year because he was on the full-time roster. And then the WWF, the WWF, the WWE situation was they were going to cut him a year ago. But he asked to stay and work in NXT and would take the pay cut, stay in the system, and admirable of him. but if if he went from 350 to 500 on the main roster and he got a 55% pay cut,
Starting point is 01:23:11 he was making 157 to 225. He's been in the system. He has been probably better paid since he's been in that system for what, seven or eight years now because he's the one that gave Biggie, the belly to belly suplex on the floor. I'm not blaming him. But that was, what, five years ago,
Starting point is 01:23:37 that was when him and Butch were part of Shamus's group, I believe. Point is, he's been better paid than almost any professional wrestler, even of a top guy in a territories back in the day, and I know there's inflation,
Starting point is 01:23:54 but he's had a stable job making into six figures for the past several years, even if you're going to be out of work for seven months, is it the point now to begin asking people to contribute to keep you from being homeless? What, how the fuck? I know that wrestlers are responsible for their travel expenses. That's brought up, and that's why the independent contractor thing is,
Starting point is 01:24:29 ridiculous and bullshit and all the things that we've talked about. But Jesus, H, Christ on a cracker, how much money does one need to stay comfortable for a period of six months when you've been making hundreds of thousands of dollars? There's people out there launching go-funds for themselves
Starting point is 01:24:54 because they make 40 grand a year and a kid got brain cancer, or hit by a bus. Having said that, the WWE and TKO in general are a bunch of fucking assholes because they literally can print their own money and because they have the Republican connections with the head crime family,
Starting point is 01:25:20 they're going to make a fucking fortune from now till evermore. And they can't just tell this guy, you know what, we're not going to put you on contract because you're it ain't working out dude and you know but since you're hurt and you got a hurt in T and A and we told you to go there we will give you X amount of dollars until you were able to get back in the ring so you can pay your expenses and they'd never fucking notice it well I guess that's one of the questions it's not even just letting him go and him having issues monetarily because that money is gone now.
Starting point is 01:26:04 But the idea that he's being let go or now fired while injured, do you see that as an issue, whether it's this situation in WWE or anyone anywhere, the idea that you get hurt and they fire you while you're hurt?
Starting point is 01:26:19 Well, you know, and see, that's, again, Vince was at least enough in the wrestling business that unless you did something compound the issue, he wouldn't have made that decision. I know somebody's going to quote me chapter and verse. Well, he did it for so and so. Well, maybe they compounded the issue. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:37 But no, when you had the capability to take care of somebody, you did. Even if boys might chip in back in the day like we did for Magnum when he had the car wreck. But a company this size not being able to say, look, we don't want you to wrestle for us anymore. But right now, since you're hurt, instead of paying you your salary, we're not. will pay you X dollars per month to more than cover your living expenses until you can get back in the ring and then be free. And they wouldn't miss it. They're assholes. And Ridge Holland, and I don't know if you can Google quickly how old he might be, but if he's got a wife and three kids and he's got to be in his mid-30s, one would think. And he was this close to disaster after
Starting point is 01:27:29 making that kind of money while being in a fucking wrestling business. I don't know what said. Don't have a wife and three kids if you want to be a rock and roll star. 37 years old. 37 years old. Everybody is somewhat culpable in this catastrophe that's currently occurring. The WW are assholes. they're actually not assholes for firing him nine days early after he buried him like that
Starting point is 01:28:08 before he can wait to get his last check but they're assholes and Republicans same thing and they they're fucking the boys and Jesus Christ if he was 37 years old he's been injured a number of times they told him they were going to cut him last year and he offered take less money, which is still in the six figures. And he needs a go-fund me before his fucking contract actually technically runs out. And he's almost 40. Did I mention that? And he's got three kids.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Son, you should have had a backup plan. So I don't know what the fuck is going on. Again, there's been times when I would sympathize with the boys in situations. but not at this level when guys have had consistent jobs for years and years. There literally used to be situations where guys were, next week I'll be out on my ass unless I get booked or whatever. And probably still are on the Indies today. But Jesus Christ, has everybody gone out of their fucking mind?
Starting point is 01:29:34 Well, good luck, formerly known as Ridge Holland. And, uh, because he ain't taking that name with him. Yeah, he ain't, he ain't going to be well, but does he want? Do you think he should? Do you think he really should? Take Ridge Holland, because they'll remember him primarily as the guy who got fired nine days earlier, early for cutting a promo on Twitter and is secondly for dropping Biggie on his head. So maybe he should start fresh.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Should he tweet out positive things about Mother Teresa, Tony Kong? Boy, howdy, what would they do over there with him if, you know, I don't know. I don't know what, but to why maybe he might ought to take, go into real estate or something like that. He's got a pleasant smile. Or maybe he could, you know, he's got a big physique. He could go into bodybuilding, Brian. I'm sure. You know, all he's got to do, change his diet up a little bit, eat better.
Starting point is 01:30:41 We could help him with that. You know, and then if he's got the right nutrition going into him, well, then he can pump up his body a little bit as he recovers from his injury, and he'd be right as rain. And when Vince wants to start the World Bodybuilding Federation again, boom, right there he is. You know how he's going to do that, Brian, with that diet? How? He's going to talk to our friends at Factor.
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Starting point is 01:36:15 And I figured we'd look at AEW and look at WW and see because I know that Tony has some people that are hurt, but I'm afraid he's got a bunch of interchangeable parts that don't fit together coherently and no star's position to lead him. But do you think it would be a fun exercise if we just looked at these rosters that we looked at a couple months ago
Starting point is 01:36:47 and we picked who I potentially would keep and who I'd can. But I got all the names right here. I'm going to ask your input on this also because I don't want to just exert my will. I'm getting my pad out here right now and everything. Jot down your thoughts. let's just examine
Starting point is 01:37:08 his talent roster and see where the stars are. What do you think? Let's give it a shot. I mean, I'm pretty down on everything. I just watched Dynamite this morning. But yeah, let's give it a shot. Well, we don't have to. I'm looking for main event level talent.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Who could legitimately be at a main event that we care about that can carry the ball? We don't have to sit here and analyze. every name and we're going to stick with guys on both companies. I'm not even going to get into philosophical discussions, but I think it's safe to say that, you know, there's no women in AEW that are going to just carry a big money main event on a pay-per-view in the immediate future, so we're not losing anything here on that.
Starting point is 01:38:01 But would you like to, let me just rattle off some names and see if you, stop me and or disagree with anything I say. On the AEW roster, Bobby Lashley, one would agree he's a main event guy, he's a former WWE champion. The people like the Hurt Syndicate. He's got credibility. Used properly, one would think he could be in the main events, correct? Correct.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Well, yeah. Go ahead. No, I was going to say, correct, but, you know, damage has been done. but I actually think Bobby Lashley could still recover pretty quickly with a good push. And also, who could be a main event talent? We're not going to ask the question for in each company, but who could be a main event talent in both companies? Because there's something to be said for that.
Starting point is 01:38:50 But after Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin. And I think maybe Shelton is the cutoff point for at this stage in his career, we're talking about main event guys that are going to move something on pay-per-view that could be the world champion, could be featured. I think is Shelton the Arn Anderson line here? So we're not talking about just wrestlers you would keep.
Starting point is 01:39:19 We're talking about wrestlers you kept who could be main eventers? We're talking about who deserves on the AEW roster, who deserves to be main event wrestlers in a major national wrestling company? Realistically, I think Shelton Benjamin in tag action, no matter who his partner is, but one-on-one, I think too much damage has been done long-term by booking in other places, and even here, but really other places.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Right. I personally don't, and I'm a fan of his. There you go. And I agree, but Samoa Joe, right now he is in the main event here. And from his performance, both verbally and physically, if any of these goofy bastards should be in contention for the AW World Championship, it should be him.
Starting point is 01:40:10 But Hobbs ain't there yet. Might be one day, not right now. Anthony Bowens, A.R. Fox, Austin Gunn, Colton Gunn, stop me when I mention a name we might discuss for this list.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Bandito, Big Bill, Brody King, Buddy Matthews. Oh, where's buddy gone? Cash Wheeler Tag team only Claudio Darby Allen
Starting point is 01:40:43 You know Jesus Christ I think Darby not that I agree with a lot of shit but in his own way he's a unique character that is a main eventer for AEW I'm writing him down Yeah
Starting point is 01:40:57 Dax Wheeler Justin Rhodes You mean Dax Harwood? Or Dax Hardwood I see I had cash in Dax Dax Harwood. Jesus Christ, whatever the case. Dustin Rhodes, hook. Jay to lethal.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Has he been abducted by ice agents? Where the fuck has he been? Jay White, probably the same place. Juice Robinson. John Morrison. Josh Alexander. Kevin Knight. Takesha.
Starting point is 01:41:35 I'm going to do that because I think the timing may work. He hasn't proven it yet. He hasn't been it yet here in America. And where he is in the main events in New Japan, I mean, business is dead? Not that it's his fault. But is he a main event or yet? I mean, he hasn't been totally screwed up by the booking, but he also hasn't been in the main event.
Starting point is 01:42:02 He's an interesting case because he's never going to be able to cut a promo, so he's never going to be the guy. but at the same time, with proper usage, he could be a viable, boy, if Gary Hart was around, then nevertheless, we'll put him down. Kyle Feltcher. I feel like that's a universal thing now that everyone sees, and he stands out on that show,
Starting point is 01:42:33 he stands out in the way that you're like, when is he going to go to WWE? Yeah, please, hurry. Kyle O'Reilly there's some people here now that that I would not have kept and I'll go down that list also. John Moxley.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Oh, that's... Boy, howdy. Just one, just one honk there. Yeah. Again, I hate his work. I hate clearly his booking instincts. I hate the things that he really likes and wants to get on TV.
Starting point is 01:43:10 However, he is a main inventor, and you can't say he isn't. So, like, I'm pinching my nose, but I think I have to, maybe. What do you think? Well, I mean, yeah, he's in that spot. Name recognition might be his strongest point. Kenny Omega. He may not have much time left, but for AEW. Yeah, he's still a main eventer.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Yeah. So he's still one of the people that means something, I think, to their fans, even at this late stage. Shippooopee. Okay, here's one. Is this a main event guy? Is this a guy that you can put in main events on big shows that will draw money and or have a great match, as they say?
Starting point is 01:44:12 Okada. I'm not going to do it, you know? The geese ain't fly. I mean, it just, no. Sorry, whatever that they're fans of that they still see that's gone now. All right, there's some more names. Solo, their solo. What was Aaron Solo? Action Andretti. Alex Abrantez. Where is he gone?
Starting point is 01:44:47 Oh, yeah, what happened to him? He was good. Alex Reynolds. Angelico Angelou Parker Anthony a go-go Adam Page they've tried to make it happen but can you say he's really a main
Starting point is 01:45:09 event guy you know I hate his promo so much every time he gets on the mic now I watch intently to see if he'll say anything I'm like all right he did all right but every time it just goes into nonsense they like him there are also fewer of
Starting point is 01:45:25 them than there have been. I remember when CM Punk and MJF were having their feud. Dave Meltzer said the credit for the pay-per-view, we should have gone to Adam Page and Adam Cole having their match. My point is he's been in their main event picture.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Their fans like them. Things are also not as hot now as they've been in the past. I personally don't see him as a main eventer. That's why I'm not honking, but to each their own. Let's put him down with two questions. marks for later on they might need some help on this side when we compare the
Starting point is 01:46:00 rosters. Brandon Cutler, Brian Cage, Brian Danielson doesn't count anymore, Brian Keith, Charlie Bravo, Chris Jericho. Oh, uh, I'm going to give it a little bit of one just because since he's been gone from AEW, they have less star power than they did before. and he's going to want to do something different if he did come back, he may be able to get another main event run, especially with this roster.
Starting point is 01:46:40 And with WWE, I don't think he'll rest in the main event, but I think he'll get a few main events and then be upper midcard in some kind of feud with someone you nominally care about. I don't know if he would even be that regular. I think the WWE would say, hey, we want to do a couple of big shows. we want to do a little, you know, live event tour or whatever.
Starting point is 01:47:07 We want to do the Hall of Fame thing. Nevertheless, let's put Jericho one question, Mark. Christian Cage. Chuck Taylor, Colt Cabana. Shut out. I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. Edge.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Edge, anyone. for me no for name rec I'm just trying to put somebody on this on this poor beleaguered depleted army for name recognition and what he has been in the past you could do it better than hey they did the hottest angle they've done with him and they really haven't done much with him and the angle wasn't even that great and then as soon as it happens he disappears off TV So, I mean, I don't think anyone's really said anything. No one's like, I really miss the cope being on the show. This isn't 10 years ago or 15 years ago. It's now, and I don't think he's a main event or no. Danhausen, Danny Garcia, Dante Martin, Darius Martin, Drillistico, Eddie Kingston,
Starting point is 01:48:30 Evil Uno, Griff Garrison, Hologram, I don't want you, hologram, I don't need you, because all you are is a hologram. Somebody named Cassidy, Jack Perry, John Silver, Josh Woods, Keith Lee, we did this a few months ago. Luchosaurus, is he just, the people like to see him do some things, but you can never put him in a money deal?
Starting point is 01:49:11 Or is it just because they've never tried? He's not very smart, but you could stick him in something and have people work around him, couldn't you? But not in a main event. He can't talk for himself. If he does, he sounds like a putts. Pip Sabian, commander, Coda Ibusci
Starting point is 01:49:34 Lee Johnson Lee Moriarty Luther Mansour and Mansway Mark Sterling Mike Seidel Matt Jackson the Buckaroo
Starting point is 01:49:52 and somebody's Oh the bucks could be in a main event Yeah that's why we're in this position folks Max Kaster Michael Nakazawa Spitball Bailey Shut up
Starting point is 01:50:10 Nick Jackson the other kookamonga kid Comorado if he still exists Nick Wayne where is he gone and also his mother where have they gone? I forgot about all of them, yeah pockets
Starting point is 01:50:27 Ortiz we went through the roster that was listed at the time Pretty Peter Preston Vance, Rickshay Rush, Saddam Singh, Serpentico, Shane Taylor, Sean Dean, rigor mortis, Tia Leone, Bishop Kahn,
Starting point is 01:50:50 Tony Neese, the Magnum people, Turbo Magnum and Floyd Smoot, whatever their names were. Trent, Wheeler, Yuda, Lance Archer, Leo Rush, Mark Briscoe, he's in the same kind of boat as Shelton, Mark Davis, Mark Quinn, Matt Taven, Mike Bennett, MJF. He's a man of inner. Just somewhere else, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:51:25 I think it's gone. is the train has reached the end of the line at AEW, but he has the talent. Pack, Roderick Strong, Sammy Guevara, Scorpio Sky, Wardlow, and lastly, two people, swerve Strickland. You know, I'm going to honk the horn for him. And Will Osprey.
Starting point is 01:51:57 And I'll honk the horn for him. and they're both injured. Yes, but they still exist, so we'll write them down. So what we have here, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Now we have ten main event guys where one of them is take a shit, and that's only with a drastic change in presentation. One of them is Kyle where he's still really growing into it. One of them is Moxley where we had to hold our nose.
Starting point is 01:52:31 one of them is Omega that has a few matches left in him, maybe. And then we have three question marks, Adam Page, Chris Jericho, and Edge. You know what, I'll put Adam Page on the list. For AEW, he's one of their main eventors, absolutely. All right. Now that I hear the list being read back to me, also I feel bad that. Yeah, see, at the time we talked about him, you thought it might get better. Yeah, it didn't.
Starting point is 01:52:59 so that is what they've got to work with when you're talking about putting together a pay-per-view or major event, main event match, world title on the line, whatever the no wonder he's hit the fucking wall. And these other names are just a bunch of fucking names. And most of them are either never seen or have, have been there forever. Where is he supposed to get anyone? Well, sure you can get a Ridge Holland,
Starting point is 01:53:43 but that's not a game changer right now. You would actually have to rebook him and start from scratch, using him as an example for everyone. Where are you going to get anyone right now? That's the point that I've also been making. He's bought the cupboard bear from Mexico and Japan, and not only that, but he brings in so many of similar style,
Starting point is 01:54:09 similar appearing, similar working guys from each market that none of them stand out in a positive way. Okada stands out to me with how lazy is. But none of them stand out
Starting point is 01:54:21 because you've got four or five guys at the same time doing the same shit. He couldn't book to begin with and now he's tired and his roster is depleted. But think about it. This is November 2025. It was, when did they debut on the air fall of 2019, right?
Starting point is 01:54:42 Yeah, I think maybe October 2019, September, October. Yeah. So it was springtime 2018. First time I talked to Tony Kahn when he uttered the immortal words, nobody will ever write my TV except me. And that is seven and a half years ago. And the prophecy has come true. and the tree is bearing the fruit.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Even goddamn Leo Garibaldi, for fuck's sake, I'm ribbing, but at Eddie Graham or a Bill Watts or a any great booker, whatever, they took a break, they took a rest, they had runs in the middle. I can personally testify. That was more fanatical at least, if not smart or more fanatical about it than all of those people I just mentioned.
Starting point is 01:55:34 And it will make you insane in much less than seven fucking years. So. Do you think he said that to you to impress you? No, he was dead serious because he was telling me without violating any NDAs. Is there a statute of limitations on those? I printed that out the other month when I was going through the files.
Starting point is 01:55:57 I forgot what the date is. Coming to Cornett's collectibles, signed NDAs. very soon. You know what? I will if I can figure out an appropriate charity, but nevertheless, what was the question you asked me? Now you've like, oh, did he say it seriously? He was
Starting point is 01:56:13 telling me I was asking a couple of questions about, well, how do you plan to do this or that or whatever? But he was telling me the people that he thought he could get to work on the roster that he either already planned to or that was that he would like to have come in.
Starting point is 01:56:32 And I saw, well, most important, who are you going to get to book this thing for you? Again, not fishing for the job, but trying to establish where this fucking, I'm told to call a billionaire that I've never heard of who's going to start a wrestling company and he's telling me all these things he's going to do. And the first thing I want to know is,
Starting point is 01:56:56 who's going to do all these things for you? and that's when I found out that he thought he could do them all himself. And that's when I immediately knew what was going on here and have never been proven wrong, which is why I chose to not involve my mental strain anymore in indulging him, but he wanted to call everybody in the wrestling business and tell them all how great his ideas were and how excited he was about running Vince McMahon out of business and having the greatest wrestling company in the world. And you cannot reason with somebody like that,
Starting point is 01:57:41 except if you want their money, you agree with them and they give you a job. If you want to talk them out of it because you live in the real world, it will drive you out of your fucking mind. And here we are. And he's still right in the time. television. It's like if I told
Starting point is 01:58:00 somebody on the phone, you know what, this goddamn a regular heartbeat I've got, going to need surgery, but nobody's going to do my open heart surgery, but me. What the fuck is the matter with you? Why would I just, I do
Starting point is 01:58:18 have a high opinion of my intellect, Brian, but why would I just go into some goddamn field that I've only watched on television that I have absolutely no experience in whatsoever and just think I was going to run the best fucking company of that thing in the world. The arrogance of modern fandom, especially at wrestling, leads people to think that they could do everything better than everyone else.
Starting point is 01:58:50 I'm guilty of it. Everyone is. Tony just had the money to say, hey, dad, let me do this. And he did it. He had to do more than think. right? But, you know, Brian, sometimes you need to change lines of work.
Starting point is 01:59:11 Sometimes maybe something might not work out, like the Ridge Highland thing, or like sooner or later, somebody's going to have to sit down with Tony and say, you just can't do this anymore. And you know he's not going to be able to sit around to just count his billions in his Scrooge McDuck money, man. He's going to have to do something else.
Starting point is 01:59:35 But if he comes up with an idea, how's he going to get that word out to the people without another television show? He ain't going to get that lucky twice. He's going to have to go to somebody with a big platform, isn't he? He is. Yes, that's where you're supposed to agree with me. A big platform. And do you know who?
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Starting point is 02:00:52 You know, you can do this from scratch with the Shopify people behind you because they've done all this before. household names like Mattel. They're the commerce platform behind 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States. So they got their hand in everybody's pocket.
Starting point is 02:01:08 And if they're picking pockets, they might as well pick pockets for you. You know that purple shop pay button? They don't pick pockets. I know that button, yes. Yes, you know that button. Every time somebody presses it, that means somebody gets paid.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Well, that somebody can be you. You just sign up with Shopify and you get one of those little cards that lets you into the Shopify headquarters. And then late at night, when nobody's around, you go in there and you reconfigure the patch cords to where every time somebody pushes that pay button, you get paid. And in 12 hours before they figure out of what you've done, you'll have $38 million and you will live on your own deserted island in the South Pacific. That is not what's going to happen.
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Starting point is 02:02:34 but they're not all the way into silly, just whimsy. But once again, you're wanting people to finger your purple button, ladies and gentlemen, and that's what that Shopify is going to make them do. So turn your dreams into reality. turn your fantasies into something that's actually going on around you. Shopify can find all the people and the Dalmatian to make that a reality. There's no Dalmatian at all. And let's know, let's not use this example, Jim, of course.
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Starting point is 02:04:06 That's right. All kidding aside, we do use them for our online store. We recommend you to do that as well. In English, da, da, da, da, but once again, Shopify. slash jacicb lady i bet you made me swallow down the wrong way all righty well should we now real quickly because we did it to a ew so we want to be fair and do it to the w should we just go down that list real quick and see how many main event talents they got and we'll we'll see where we're standing and this was as of a couple months ago so there may be
Starting point is 02:04:48 I mean, I don't know who. I'm trying to think, would there any additions in the roster? Yeah, not really. Nobody has really come in and just tickled our taint here recently, have they? That we're just forgetting about the brand new, great talent. Well, let's go down this list and see what's happened. The first one we would keep, but we're not going to keep him because it wouldn't technically be fair. John Sina, he's retired, so we can't even give him, give them credit for him, right?
Starting point is 02:05:16 so we're going to we're going to not do that. Get out. Get out. Gunther. Boom. Not even any discussion required. Dominic Mysterio.
Starting point is 02:05:33 I'm putting him down. Hold on now. I'll put him down. I'm going to have to put him with a question mark only because it's not yet, but it's going to be. But now we can't be too liberal because we were, we weren't really stingy on the other side.
Starting point is 02:05:49 We were just disappointed. But nevertheless, Solo, Sikoa, Chad Gable, Finn Baller, J.D. McDonough, Montez Ford, Oba Femi, Adam Pierce. I ought to put him down. He probably outworked on the roster still. No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 02:06:15 That man's a former world champion. well yeah but you know everybody gets older he's only half the man he used to be because he was twice the man that most people were when he was half the man you used to be and that's steiner math a j styles ha you know what he's right on it there notwithstanding the john cina match i kind of feel like he's a notch below right now not that he was wouldn't have been, not that I wouldn't have done that for him a couple of years ago. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:51 And he's announced he's retiring, so he's not really going to be, you know, concentrated on a prominent position with the thought of the future. Alex Shelley, Apollo Cruz, Austin Theory. Boy, howdy. He ain't there, but what I still don't know what's a matter with this fucking guy. It's like he never existed. He just disappeared. Everyone forgot about him.
Starting point is 02:07:17 And the movement, I would have killed to have 10 OVW students like that. Nevertheless, Brock Lesner. He's a little slower than he used to be, but still. Daryl Dawkins, Hank Walker. Angelo Dawkins, I call him Daryl. Hank Walker, Tank, Stacks. The fuck. At least people have heard of Daryl Dawkins.
Starting point is 02:07:55 I don't even know what you're saying. What, no, I thought you were laughing. These are names of people, Stacks, Tony D'Angelo, Luca Persephone, Tazawa, Alistair Black, Andrede, Andre Chase, Angel Garza, Axiom. See, we went through all the, I'm reading these names because we mixed the girls in on these two, and it wouldn't be fair.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Okay, Braun Breaker, Jesus, finally. Brawn breaker, we got Bronson Reed. I'm giving them this because of the way he's been used, and it's working. Okay. And he's part of a package. In a tag at this point, but, you know, it's working. Brooks Jensen, Chris Saban, C.M. Punk. What the hell's wrong with this horn?
Starting point is 02:09:00 Cody, Cody Rhodes. Damien Priest. Hmm. Dexter Loomis, Drew McIntyre. Ow, that hurt me. Eric of the Raiders, Ivar of the Raiders, Paul Revere of the Raiders, Elia Dragonov. Not yet, not yet.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Jacob Fatu. Oh, give it a, give it a honk there. I like it. Has he been used as a main inventor? He's going to be if he'll ever get his teeth put back in. I think he's, he's. I think he'll get a horn next year, but I don't know if he has it this year. Well, I'm making him horny.
Starting point is 02:09:55 Javon Evans, not now. Right. Jay Uso. Not anymore. You know what? I'm going to do that. He's still, he still has some draw left. Not that I think it's going to last too much longer.
Starting point is 02:10:13 Not that I like it. Not fair to me. mention him now, Kevin Owens, but he gets a buy anyway. L.A. Knight. I'd like him to be. You know who's disappeared? The Creed Brothers. Maybe it's because that big-ass one kept landing on everybody's face. Carmelo Hayes, Charlie Dempsey, Cruz del Toro, Cutler James. They had the whole roster. Donte Chin, Dionne Lennox, Dragon Lee,
Starting point is 02:10:56 Idris Enough, Elton Prince, Eric Rowan, Grayson Waller, Joaquin, whatever the fuck, Joe Gasey, Johnny Gargano, Josh Briggs, Coffey, Kingston, Lexus King, Logan Paul.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Got it. Ludwig Kaiser, Nick Aldus A da da da Um Kit Wilson I wrote down Luca damn fino
Starting point is 02:11:35 I couldn't figure out what the Obviously that one wasn't a serious honk A lot of these I can't tell whether they're the men or the women's talent Uh Mike Rome
Starting point is 02:11:47 Robert Stone, Miles Bourne Nathan Frazier Omos Good God there's more Paul Heyman doesn't technically count, but they couldn't do it without him. Randy Orton. I think he still has a big thing with Cody
Starting point is 02:12:10 that's on the table. Oh, God, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. That's going to, that might be, might that be mania. Nevertheless. Ray Mysterio.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Hey, not at this point in his career at one time. Yeah. Ray Phoenix, Ricky Saints, not yet. Ridge Holland, barely not ever. Robert Rood, Roman Rains. Yeah. Boom.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Rusev. Sammy Zane. He's on the cost. He's there. Yeah, he's like that. Seth Rollins. He's Wells. Yep.
Starting point is 02:12:59 Boom. uh tamatonga the miss tamaso champa tanga tangeloa taller tanga trick william zavier woods otis pete dun eskabar sean spears shamis yeah not at this point he used to be uh who the fuck is i don't even know who the fuck Turner, is that a girl or a guy? I don't know. Tony D'Angelo,
Starting point is 02:13:37 Tyler Bate, then Uncle Howdy, Bo Dallas, whatever the fuck. Yeah, I don't even recognize these names. So, the WWE numerically
Starting point is 02:13:54 only has one, don't have any real question marks in it, but it's only got 14 to AEW's 13, but WWE's 14 beats a fucking shit out of AEW's 13. Listen to this. If you were opening a wrestling promotion, would you rather have Bobby Lashley,
Starting point is 02:14:24 Samoa Joe, Darby Allen, Takeshita, Kyle Fletcher, John Moxley, Kitty Omega, Adam Page, Chris Jericho, Edge, MJF, Swerve Strickland, and Will Osprey. Or Gunther, Dominic Mysterio, Brock Leicner, Bronner, Bronbreaker, Bronson Reed, C.M. Punk, Cody Rhodes, Drew McIntyre, Jacob Fatu, Jay Hsu, Logan Paul, Randy Orton, Roman Reigns, and Seth Fuggan Rollins. With Paul Heyman. Yeah, there's no confidence. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:15:04 It's two different playing fields. And again, you go back to that photo that was out there after Punk won the title of him with Jade, with Cody, with Ricky Saints. You know, Ricky Saints may not be a main eventer now. He could have been an AEW by now. They blew that. CM Punk and Cody were main eventers there. They blew that. You know, it's not like the talent that are on top here had to be here.
Starting point is 02:15:34 It could have been maintained over there if there was different leadership. You know, hold on here. So there's some, there's no way, how long has Gunther been in the system? He's been with developmental since longer than AW's been around. It's got to be about five years, six years, somewhere in there, yeah. Okay, so Dominic was grandfathered in because of his father. Brock Lesnar there was no chance Tony was ever going to get. Bronbreaker in because of his dad.
Starting point is 02:16:02 Bronson Reed was a thing that was out there, I think, before, that Tony could have had. Oh, yeah, because they let him go too. Remember, there was a period in between him being there. They let him go. Oh, Christ, that's right. Yeah. Tony had punk.
Starting point is 02:16:19 Tony had Cody. Drew's been tied up. Jacob Fatu was more than available. And from California. For some reason, the kookamonga kids didn't embrace him as part of their trampoline gang. Jay Uso's been in the system. Logan Paul wasn't going to work for Tony.
Starting point is 02:16:44 Randy Orton's been in the system, Roman Raines, Seth Rollins. So Tony couldn't have got most of these guys, but he did have Cody and Punk and could have had a couple of others. But at the same time, before the WWE got these guys, they weren't exactly
Starting point is 02:17:08 notorious in the world of wrestling. Gunther was not a national star before WWE. Definitely Dominic wasn't. Brock was a celebrity athlete because of the NCAA, but Bronbreaker they took from scratch. Bronson Reed, they've developed. All these guys really gained their first fame
Starting point is 02:17:33 with the WWE that are in WWW now. in a w lashley gained his greatest fame in w vowsamoa joe has been to the w wbd but really was a talent beforehand was tn a darby is homegrown tkestha the jury still out kiles the jury still out moxley was much more famous than the w w omega okay is homegrown Page for what, that patch of ground was sour. Jericho, W.W.E, Edge, W.E.
Starting point is 02:18:14 MJF, homegrown. Swerve was in the W.E. But not focused on as much as they have here. And Osprey, they grew him. But he was already over to the audience for what he'd done before he joined the company. So they don't have a great record in AEW of taking people, that have never been seen on a widespread level and getting them over, do they? Imagine that. No, and you look at the people they focus their time on, and you're always like, why?
Starting point is 02:18:48 Why haven't you given up on this and found someone else yet? Do you think Tony hates to admit he's wrong because he didn't have to tell the butler that he was guilty of things when he was a kid? I think that may be part of the reason. I think Tony also has an echo chamber. There's certain people. Tony talks to that reaffirm his worst instincts as a booker. But hey, it's his project.
Starting point is 02:19:13 I mean, it just so happens that it's also a business. It's the Tony Fun Project. That's what it is. That's what it always will be. But, you know, it comes back to the same issue. Of the people you name for AEW, Chris Jericho may or may not be back, but he's not a young guy anymore. Kenny Omega, we've said that they have to hide him in tag matches,
Starting point is 02:19:35 and it looks like it's hurting him just to walk around. His head looks like a huggle from Labyrinth. Edge doesn't have a, you know, long and bright career ahead of him, nor does he want one, I don't think, at this point. You got to think he's winding down. Moxley, he's, what, around 40, and he's one of the young ones of all that bunch. But who knows how much longer he's going to be doing this stuff? Darby's, like, younger, but there's always a risk he's going to snap in half or something.
Starting point is 02:20:05 Almost everybody on that side is either over the hill or held together with bailing wire. And then you have MJF, who you would have to think, unless Tony Kahn's going to open the books and pay him more than anyone else. You've got to think MJF would want to go to WWE. Kyle Fletcher? I would think the same thing. He seems to take his career seriously. Do you think he wants to work for Tony forever?
Starting point is 02:20:30 So those are the younger guys on that list of the main eventers. you know, Osprey, he's not that old, but by the time he's a free agent, is he going to be able to do anything in WWE? Or is his body going to be broken down? Because it's broken down now. So that's, well, I think that's why he took the money rather than the opportunity to, and I sound like Vince offering a job now.
Starting point is 02:20:58 We're going to give me the opportunity instead of a guarantee, but I think he took the money from Tony and the chance to please the fans that were already predisposed to like him because he knew that not only could he not physically probably go into WWE and get over from complete scratch. None of those fans would have a fucking clue who he was and he'd have to do all the shit that he did five and ten years ago to get over to begin with again and he can't.
Starting point is 02:21:27 And then there would be a ceiling because he still got the accent and he's, you know, just kind of a certain level guy that would never be the guy in the WWE. So I think that's why he did this and that way, and he can take that long flight and business class or whatever every week. Well, that's the roster review for WWU. One side is Custer and one side's the Indians.
Starting point is 02:22:02 All right, well, now that we've talked about the disparity and talent, let's talk about the disparity in booking that was AEW. What was this week? November 5th, AEW Dynamite Wednesday night. I believe so. If it had been Tuesday, I would say the loud sound that you heard was not the plane crash in Louisville. It was Tony Kahn hitting the wall in Houston. But, geez, it's, they open up with Tony Chivani in the ring.
Starting point is 02:22:31 And, of course, he pulled the costume deal with, Paige and Samoa Joe last week, and we said, well, Joe ought to be mad at Tony. So here comes Joe and Hobbs and Shepoopy. And guess what? Joe's mad at Tony for helping the old switcheroo last week. But the Joe is so good. The ominous tone, the delivery, the arrogance of his voice when he's being a heel. consequences.
Starting point is 02:23:03 Actions have consequences, Tony, and consequences have come for you. He's a diamond in the middle of this turd. But still, he's the guy that's just turned heel on the world champion and is challenging at the next pay-per-view for the title again after the baby-faced champion beat him clean the first time. But nevertheless, he still, I understand again having Hobbs
Starting point is 02:23:33 because Hobbs is a project that you could mold still. But with the six-man title thing and Shabbat is there for no reason, and then they have the fake security come in, acting faking, trying to keep Joe from killing Tony Shavani. Why not teach these guys? Why not walk through it with them
Starting point is 02:23:56 and say, don't act like idiots with your waving your arms in the air with your slack-jawed expressions. No, no, no. Act like you're... So then here comes Paige when they all start to attack. And by the way, now Paige has old sock face on commentary, calling it the men's world title. Like we couldn't differentiate with Paige's champion,
Starting point is 02:24:22 he might be right. Danielson did it too. Of course, because they're Page's buddies, and this is a thing that Page is doing, I guess to reinforce that he is indeed male. At some point, they're going to start calling it a human world title. So, Paige comes out there, but the heels are still ready to attack,
Starting point is 02:24:48 but here comes Eddie Kingston and Hook. This is the World Title Program. What I said about Shabbatah goes double for Hook and Kingston. and then the heels bailed out for mid-carders coming to back page up. Page cuts the same promo, growly voice, and then Hook takes a microphone and challenges them for a six-man tag team title match later on in the show. And Joe, this made Joe mad. And he channeled Rick Flair and agreed to it.
Starting point is 02:25:26 And Tony Con made it official in five seconds. So this is the way they're building the world title match. And comments, thoughts, suggestions, recipes. Yeah, I mean, again, they kind of, the commentators were dancing around what was clearly Adam Page working with Tony Chivani, collusion to trade. Samoa Joe last week. Because how would they have Tony Chivani's voice? Yeah, ready to go. Beyond that small little fact.
Starting point is 02:26:10 Yeah, I mean, it was all right, I guess. I'm sick of Adam Page. I know I may be amongst AEW watch washers. Amongst AEW viewers, I'll say. Not many of those AEW folks are washers. I swear to God every week now, someone sends a photo of like, here's some AEW fan busted for some nefarious thing. and you always know it's an AEW fan
Starting point is 02:26:29 because they're wearing the AEW jacket or something. But yeah, I just thought that was the thing that's ridiculous, the fact that in this whole world of this angle, Tony Chivani was in cahoots, and he got off easy. Well, we all like to get off easy. But anyway, so after they started with this segment, the first match on the program, here comes pockets.
Starting point is 02:26:56 every week now that he's back from whatever rock that he was hiding under, it's the first thing you see. How is anybody supposed to take this program serious? That's a rhetorical question. And it's a blood and guts advantage match. Not just the only one, they're going to have two out of three. Actually, they're going to have three.
Starting point is 02:27:24 And it goes into collision too. Now, they're doing blood and guts with the women on TV and then the men on TV, but then the pay-per-view is different than the blood and guts. Is this what I, help me try to keep all this straight? I believe blood and guts is exclusive to dynamite. The pay-per-view will be full-gear. The big thing we know right now is it'll be the national title determined in the casino something. But I don't think there's a wargings.
Starting point is 02:27:55 I don't think there's a war games there, though. Pockets and Claudio. Well, blood and guts is war games without the cage and the talent. Pockets and Claudio, the match starts on the floor before the bell with pockets doing two dives in a row. So with entrances, this went over 15 minutes, and then the random Walmart stock boy was competitive the whole way with the giant until finally Claudio won with a big uppercut, one, two, three. And then we go to the women's tag team championship tournament because while we are having the advantage matches for the blood and guts, we are having the women's tag team championship tournament,
Starting point is 02:28:43 which will run at least two and possibly pass the conclusion of the new national championship that will be decided by a casino gauntlet battle royal. Right? I don't know what it ends actually, maybe, yeah. Mercedes Moon and Athena against Willow Nightingale and Harley Cameron, and after about 15 minutes, the baby faces won. They upset Mercedes, Mone, and Athena, of course, they beat Athena. And Starrick, Billy Starks, that girl is back, and Stathlander was
Starting point is 02:29:25 running around interfering and that la la la. But that's to get Mercedes out of the tournament so she didn't have to do any jobs because she ain't going to. And Brian, we were at 9 o'clock. I'm not shitting you. That's the first hour was the six-man set up, Claudio and Pockets and a girls tag team match. And that's when Tony Chivani was back at the ring
Starting point is 02:29:58 to announce the casino gauntlet match. that will take place at the pay-per-view with the winner being the new national champion because it's been 40 years since the national title was on this network. And we covered earlier in the program the various reasons why this whole thing is stupid. But at that point, Tony introduces the Hurt Syndicate.
Starting point is 02:30:27 And they come out, and the only interesting thing that they had to do in this segment was potentially raised the question of what would happen if Shelton had to face Bobby and all the MVP said they'll do what's best for business and then the music played and ricochet and the fucking Stooges came out and MVP had already called it the international title
Starting point is 02:30:56 because they can't even keep them all straight and that's they had him plug Paul Orndorf Jack Briscoe Dusty Rhodes, Wahoo, Nikita as the former champions. And because they just Wikipediaed that. Brisco actually was never, they just put the thing on Briscoe for him to drop it to somebody at the start of it in the early 80s. But nevertheless, then Rickusay and his stooge has come out
Starting point is 02:31:31 wearing the suits and the ugly robes. And the fans are hoot. booing him. Where they're not listing, they're either just booing over him because it's fun because they don't give a shit or they're chanting shut the fuck up. But it's not like that this is
Starting point is 02:31:51 any type of money drawing heat. It's let's amuse ourselves by just shouting this puts down heat. Do you think they can tell the difference over there? No. And he talks like an indie guy as
Starting point is 02:32:08 well as working like one. And he's the talent on his team. I think he was better off in the WWE where he could be hidden. They had him do his fancy shit. He didn't get to talk very much because the more that you listen to him and learn of what is apparently his real personality,
Starting point is 02:32:28 the more that even the AEW fans genuinely just don't fucking like him. And MVP cut him all. off at the end when he was droning on and fired up and got the fans back into it a little bit, but nobody cares about these heels. So I don't want Lashley and Benjamin to face each other in the tournament, because that would hurt their image,
Starting point is 02:32:57 but I would like more of the tease that they might, because at least it'd be something different, instead of more with these fucking clowns. I don't, help me. Now, this was the worst I've ever seen or heard ricochet on the microphone. You know, in FTR, I think some of the booing with them is just based on the way they've been booked for a while and people don't want to hear them anymore. Maybe some of Dax. But with Ricketts, just listen to them.
Starting point is 02:33:27 Like, you can't take them seriously. And I thought, it became a bit much at the end. The intrigue, like you said, was the idea what happens if Bobby Russell Shelton? Well, maybe they'll tell us next week more about it. But you know, at this point, Brian, in the show, like I said, we're past 9 o'clock, and I'm starting to get sleepy. But not even because of the bad programming, but because I, like a good little boy, every night before I lay my weary head down to sleep,
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Starting point is 02:36:56 Once again, 30% off your first order with the code JCE. That's an easy to remember code, Brian. Would you like me to repeat it? One more time. J.C.E. Yeah. All righty. Let's go back to this fiasco.
Starting point is 02:37:16 Another Blood and Guts advantage match with Darby Allen against Danny Garcia. Besides the fact that this is the same cast of characters that interacts every goddamn week, at this point they have made Darby, at least in their universe, a somewhat credible challenger for the world title, and he's had these matches with Moxley, and he's going to go 15 minutes with Danny Garcia, who, again, for I'm sure he's a nice kid that they like, but Jesus, age Christ. So recess lasted about 15 minutes, then Darby got a shot.
Starting point is 02:38:03 sharpshooter and Garcia tapped. And then Pat came in and beat up Darby, but pockets came in and hit Pack with 13 fake punches in a row. Pack didn't go down. Wheeler came in and stopped somebody, pockets, lots of more fake punches. Here came Roderick Strong. Dick the Boozer came in, Callow Raleigh came out. And suddenly Roddy just jumped over a couple of people and nailed.
Starting point is 02:38:33 Moxley and the heels ran off. When did they have the last TV show where they didn't do what I just described, at least at one point, if not multiple points in the show, with the same people? Yeah, I don't know. You know, somebody took me up on that. I said, somebody ought to do the research
Starting point is 02:39:01 on what percentage of matches in AEW, like just regular matches, and what percentage are multiple man matches. And they did the numbers and considered tag matches part of multiple man matches, but it was like 6535 for the multi-man matches.
Starting point is 02:39:22 So then... You know, just one last thing about that. Yes. Garcia's not picked up any muscle. He doesn't look like a wrestler. I don't care how good technically he is to some people, and I've never really seen any of the growth.
Starting point is 02:39:37 there or anything. He doesn't look imposing in any way. And if you tune into the show around 9 o'clock and that's what you see, Darby can get away with it because he's a gimmick. He's a gimmick. But Daniel Garcia, it stands out. You know, that looks as indie as anything. Just doesn't look like a wrestler.
Starting point is 02:40:01 Well, there's nothing there. There's no presentation. There's no personality. There's no promo. There's no. look, there's no charisma. It's a guy doing moves. Are you ready for the week's acting performance from inside the actor's studio,
Starting point is 02:40:24 along with a creative helping of Tony's scintillating booking? Do you remember one of the Clash of Champions when Baba said his top Japanese guys over are supposed to have a match on the TV special, and they did a swerve angle in WCWS, like 91 or whatever, and locked them in the dressing room and replaced them. That was 89. 89, that's right, yes. I think it was going to be like Michael Hayes,
Starting point is 02:40:53 Sting and the Junkyard Dog against, was it the Road Warriors in Tenru? I forget exactly what it was, but it was something like that. Well, it ended up that that's why Baba never worked with him again, right? You're so insulted. Well, this time, Bro Dildo got locked in a locker room. Bandito and Brody King. So FTR's doing a promo in a ring, and there's no Stokely.
Starting point is 02:41:21 And they're out there. They're in T-shirts and sweatpants. They've given up. They just look like two guys now. And they're cutting a promo saying they're the number one contenders for the tag team title and they call out Bandito and Brody King, the champions, and they play
Starting point is 02:41:40 the music, but they don't come. And suddenly, we go to the back with the camera and Renee Moxley Good with Stokely in front of the locker room that says Brodito locker room. And there's somebody pounding on the other side
Starting point is 02:41:58 of the door and Stokely saying, well, you know, no, no, they can't be. I don't know. What the fuck? So they've got the camera standing by where these people have been locked in the fucking room. And they go back to show it. And then they come back to the ring and Dax says,
Starting point is 02:42:17 oh, I'm so upset that they can't be out here. And then Bandito's family, including the grandmother, that apparently they've done another angle with at some point, is sitting ringside and he cuts the heel promo on them and it wasn't Lawler and Stu and Helen, was it? It's so fake and it's just, it's not good material. And it goes on too long. And Granny and the family have varying expressions.
Starting point is 02:42:54 One of them, I guess Bandito's brother is wearing a mask. And it just, it's a wrestler. Well, whatever. That's gravity. Are you serious? That's gravity. FTR beat up gravity here. Well, at least they did better than Isaac Newton did.
Starting point is 02:43:14 But the whole thing doesn't come together. And I don't know if he was supposed to show it or not, because it's kind of a heelish thing, but Dax had the Spanish that he was speaking to Granny written on the palm of his hand. Did you see that? I thought that was a nice touch, actually. I thought that was good.
Starting point is 02:43:33 Well, if it was intentional, I don't know. Oh, it had to be. It had to be. Well, you never know with this fucking show. And so then he says, give me a little kiss in Spanish, and he leans over, and she's supposed to slap him. But the woman has to be 85, and she kind of flicked her hand and tapped him, and he kind of sold it. And the people got it enough to get with it. But then the brother jumps the rail, and they have a face.
Starting point is 02:44:03 fake fight. And while this is going on, they go back to the video of Stokely in front of the door, but he's there for two seconds and Brody King's fist comes through the door and
Starting point is 02:44:21 grabs Stokely and he gets free and runs off and then he runs out to the ring and the baby faces are following him and they run the heels off. It's it's all so. fucking fake. Isn't it just
Starting point is 02:44:39 how, why? As someone married to a Latina, I think the most realistic thing was the idea that FTR were threatening this old Latino woman and some other women behind them and they weren't scared at all. They were having a great time. They were smiling. They didn't seem bother. I don't know why gravity jumped the rail. Didn't see my grandma was bothering the wall.
Starting point is 02:44:59 Yeah, she was doing good. She didn't have any problem at all. It's, I and by the way the door was hollow to it was not it was not just a hollow door I understand that many doors these days are not solid but it was a
Starting point is 02:45:19 like a drywall door that he could put his fist through both sides of it hollow in the middle but the sides of it were only arena doors are not made out of balsa wood or drywall I'm sorry Well, at least they got away from making fake rooms, now they just do doors.
Starting point is 02:45:43 Are you excited for Brodito versus FTR? No, no, I'm not. Because if you want to see a match, by the time they get finished promoting it, you've changed your mind. Did you see the thing backstage with Jurassic Express? I skip all the backstage stuff because if I started breaking that down
Starting point is 02:46:08 and how phony and bad acting it is, it'd take me forever, but what did they do? Well, they were walking towards the camera, doing a promo, Jack Perry still can't talk in a realistic way. But now he's kind of dressed almost like a, like if Indiana Jones joined Greenpeace? And he took out his knife and they stabbed a $100 bill and left it there because they're about to have this big money match against the bucks. Oh yeah, because Don Fowles is trying to get the bucks to join his family of 18. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:46:43 I'm surprised he didn't fuck the Octa Mom. But they're broke. So they need all this money, but every time they get a chance at winning the money, they lose. But now there's going to be a $1 million. And nobody believe what $1 million tag match, $400,000 of Battle Roy.
Starting point is 02:47:04 That's why I say he's just doing the same thing over and over, Tony. He's lost it. He's hit the wall. He can't get out of it. It's not a fun place to be. See, the funny thing is, if you're an AEW fan defending it, your only defense is, man, how could it be a million dollars? I didn't believe it when it was 500,000.
Starting point is 02:47:23 Now it's a million, the only defense is, well, you know, the owner's a moron. And he just spends money like crazy. Of course it would be a million dollars. Why wouldn't you believe this? This is not Vince McMahon. This guy will throw money out the window. And besides that. That's the only defense.
Starting point is 02:47:37 That's the only defense. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, The rockeroo's were so happy to spread the publicity when they got the multi-million dollar contracts became the highest paid tag team of all time from this guy. And it was only a couple of years ago, but now they're broke. And Nick, a Nick of all people, these right-wing religious simpletons lost a half a million dollars at a casino. But Nicky doesn't even know how to play fucking Blackjack. It's just ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:48:13 Well, that's the tag team division. So then another blood and guts advantage match came up, but this time on the women's side, Megan Brain versus Mina Melons. And that ended up with all eight or ten or how many girls are going to be in this thing, all in a schmise, you couldn't half of them street clothes, you couldn't keep track of who was on whose,
Starting point is 02:48:38 side and it was all to plug the girls garbage match that I guess is coming up at, what is that next week? They have the girls garbage and then the men's division garbage the following week and then the pay-per-view the week after that. Oh, boy. What about if they take one of the men's blood and guts teams and put it against the women's and vice versa? Would that make it more interesting?
Starting point is 02:49:04 Yes. Actually, it would. Have there ever been as many war games matches with people? that don't belong in a war games match, just makeshift groups put together with no main eventers. It's terrible. And they're actually going to do the war games at Survivor Series, right? Right.
Starting point is 02:49:24 Although Tony, I think, does it more in line with the traditional way, with a roof and, you know, WWE is a... Blood and Gutz is the all over the building shit. No, there have been people that have gone off the roof, I think. I think they have a roof in blood and guts. that they that's the fucking other kind of cage thing they do no it's blood and guts i thought the well the oh the football field yeah the football field fuckery the arena the arena stadium stampede that's that match okay the blood and guts is yeah so they're going to have and god damn it is
Starting point is 02:50:02 the w w you're going to have a women's war games you know it equality Oh, Christ. So four of them. Anything you could do, I could also do on the same show. In November, we used to put big matches on TV to increase the ratings. Now they're trying to kill the business in November. Four of them, two women, two men. I guarantee you three of them are going to be the shits.
Starting point is 02:50:31 We'll see if it's a clean sweep. It could be. So then we're ready for our main event, Brian. the six-man tag team championship was Samoa Joe Hobbs and Poopee against Paige and Kingston and Hook. And we knew they were going to run over because the bell started six minutes left
Starting point is 02:50:54 in regulation time. And did you do the count on the opening salvo from hangnail Paige and Shapoopee? No. They started by locking up and Paige hit Shippoopee. poopie with 28 fake looking forearms. Not only did he not even go to a knee, but they immediately went out of that into a running
Starting point is 02:51:20 spot. Do you know how much money you would have had to pay any baby face in a wrestling business 40 years ago to tell them, okay, I want you to hit the fucking heel in the face 28 times and then shoot him off. A guy would give his notice. What the fuck? What the fuck? So they did all the same shit they usually do.
Starting point is 02:51:54 And for some reason, their intent on having hook involved in this where people are going to just laugh at him because he's so obviously doesn't belong. And then about five minutes into the overrun, Hobbs took page to the stage that sounded like I was trying to do a limerick there, didn't it? Hobbs takes hangnail up onto the stage
Starting point is 02:52:23 and power slams him off the stage through a table to the floor so that he's there for the rest of the fucking night and back in the ring Hobbs puts hook in the torture rack badly sideways, not like Lugar would upside down, and hook tapped out. And that was it. So they're building in, what is it, two weeks, three weeks,
Starting point is 02:52:51 a world title match, and the world champion and the top challenger were on opposite sides of this six man. And they finished it with the challenger, not getting the win and the champion laying in the goddamn orchestra pit in the back of the arena. Was that about what happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:19 You know, it's weird with Hook. There was a time where he was the best protected person in AEW, you could argue. Fans were chanting for him. He didn't do anything. It was kind of, they were just into the character. Now we've seen it. And like you said, he doesn't belong in there with... Well, that's the problem is now we've seen it.
Starting point is 02:53:42 It never went anywhere. Yeah. And now he's just... just this kind of skinny kid with a funny haircut standing next to these big guys and nobody believes it. But Tony, Tony's thing, I'll say this and I'll be done. Tony's thing is he thinks that most people or the majority of people think like he does,
Starting point is 02:54:06 that once somebody is over in his mind, oh, he's over now so that he can go away for six months. And then when he comes back, we'll just mention briefly in passing was something that he did nine months ago now and they'll remember it and they'll be right with it and everybody's always the same. Nobody ever changes.
Starting point is 02:54:29 If Okada was over to him five years ago that he'll be over now, even though Okada's obviously crippled, broke down, unmotivated, don't give a shit, whatever his problem is, he can't see it. He doesn't see that anything changes and that he thinks everybody will remember everything,
Starting point is 02:54:51 no matter how long ago it was. And there are some things that qualify for that. Maybe they would. And every move he ever made is not one of them. And maybe they would if he was actually good at writing TV. Instead of just throwing things against the wall and then booking half the things to happen on Saturday. Good point. Well, that was the briefest dynamite review.
Starting point is 02:55:16 I think we've ever done. There's just, there's nothing to it anymore. And I mean, I... Well, you said it earlier when you, you know, I never even thought about just in that context. I think it was the Moxley-Darby post-match stuff and the Garcia match. It's the same people interacting this way.
Starting point is 02:55:34 What did you say? When was the last episode they didn't do this? I don't know. They've been doing this forever. The same things keep happening and the roster doesn't grow. It's the same people doing them over and over and over and over again. And you mentioned this earlier,
Starting point is 02:55:50 and I don't even know if I gave you a full answer, but the roster ain't going to grow because there's nobody left. He's rated all the other international companies. Everybody that's worth a shit in the United States is tied up. He blew a number of big signings that he was able to do previously when all those loopholes weren't closed
Starting point is 02:56:16 and there were guys he could get. And either it never, it didn't work out like with punk or it, at some points he would bring people we've talked about it, where you would think, okay, this guy could make a difference and it show up to big fanfare, edge. And he makes people that are stars already not stars anymore. And just part of the crew within weeks. So I don't know what else different.
Starting point is 02:56:51 If this was a territory, anywhere in wrestling, anywhere before the last 20 years or so, the promoter would have said, I'm going to fire the booker, and I'm going to get a new booker that's going to bring in almost a completely different crew. And he would fire the booker, and he would hire another booker,
Starting point is 02:57:14 and he would say, this guy, this guy and this guy are my guys, they're protected. You can't get rid of them. Otherwise, draw me some money. And the whole roster would change. The whole presentation would change. And it would look completely different except for those loyal, local, over guys that the promoter didn't want to get rid of.
Starting point is 02:57:36 And that made it look completely different. And then you could revitalize something. that's not possible here because Tony won't get anybody else to book. I don't know who it would be if he did. And there's no way to change the roster. There's nobody else. Well, those are the ratings. A.W. Dynamite.
Starting point is 02:58:07 Yeah. And the ratings are all late also and they're all down. And it's the beginning of the end. but you know what this is, don't you, Brian, as relates to the end. What's that? The end of the end. Because it's the end of the show and it's time now for you to take over. The drive-through will be out in a couple of days from now and the experience has come to an end.
Starting point is 02:58:34 Are you sad? I am sad that it will be just a few days until we have to do this again. I can hear it in your voice, the sadness, misery. Folks, thank you. for listening to us. Please listen to us always, and sooner or later, we'll get it right. Until then, thank you, fuck you. Bye-bye, everybody.

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