Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 611: Random Conversations

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

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Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornet. The keys to the future. Hell by Cornet. The episode of the Jim has surfaced. Plus, Tony Khan may be losing a lot of his video. And the story of a dentist in China.

It's all that and more because it's the random conversation edition of the Jim Cornett experience. me for all that and more. Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. co-host to you, the most versatile random conversationalist in podcasting. Be great, Brian Last.

Hello, hi, Jim. A pleasure to be here once again. When you say random conversation, you mean it. There's no way we can go too long about that AEW episode, which was quite the stinker. I got stinky crotch. I could spend some time on it.

if especially if somebody was paying me to go through and minutely point out the fucking various mistakes and misdeeds and misapprehensions of the whole fucking thing, I could probably go on for 14 hours. It could be a filibuster in Congress. But for the sake of everybody's sanity, we won't do that. And I'm cold, Brian. It's cold. It is cold.

four days ago the city of Louisville had five inches of snow which may not sound like a lot to you people who live in Muskegon, Michigan and fucking Oswego, Norway or wherever the fuck you may be but it is, what's the matter with you

until you don't like the people from Norwegian? Oswego Norway is one of my favorite places actually. Well, especially in the summer because elsewise, it's fucking cold. but five inches of snow is the most amount of snow that we've ever gotten on December or whatever it was second or whatever in the history of Louisville. We don't get snow this early. The average temperature is supposed to be 50 degrees here at this time.

It ain't average because we've got five inches of snow. The warmest bit's been is 34. and so we've still got all this fucking snow and for once Brian you may hear the sound of people you'll think it's people throwing rocks at my fucking roof because the sun has just come out and shit's starting to melt and it sounds like intermittent rocks being pegged at the side of the house

so just grip tightly I just heard it but no that was me pounding the desk for emphasis. I had a landslide behind the wall here a minute ago just before we got on the air. Random conversation. Random conversation.

Anyway, it ain't 50 degrees. And it ain't going to be. Birdie Sanders has already moved into the garage for the winter. You remember Bertie. It can't be the same bird. I swear it's a same bird. It's the same looking bird.

The bird sits in the same places. the bird acts the same way, the bird makes the same noise. And Bertie has brought a friend now, because every morning there's two of them in the garage. And it's early for that because normally, remember I've had a few families nesting for the spring. They like it in the spring. But I don't normally get any,

every once in a while, Bertie will come in, you know, early in the year. But normally it has to be. we pass this time before he will come back and move in and it's just so cold out there. Why doesn't he fly south? I think he's got it. Isn't that what birds are supposed to do in the winter? Well, he's got it better here because I've got the deal with him, see?

Is that I'll leave the garage door up until it gets dark. And when it gets dark is getting really cold, I close it. And he's in the garage somewhere. I don't know where, but he's in by then. But every morning when I get up and go out there, if it's daylight, he has come out and he's fluttering around and he's chirping and I'll let him out. He'll fly right out to the evergreen tree. It's a morning routine we got. But the last week or so it's been cold, he's brought a friend, friend sleeping over too.

There's two of them. And I'll leave him some seeds sitting out there on top of the cabinet. There it is. There it is. I was going to say, do you feed him to encourage him to come hang out like you do the deer? well I don't want him to be stuck all night without a snack you know I'm thinking about trying to figure out some way to cut a bird door what kind of seeds are you putting up it's bird seed oh you just have it on hand okay

not not yes we have from the bird we don't put the bird seed in the bird feeders when it's cold and wet and snowy outside because that would require us to walk around all this fucking snow and ice and it's cold so I was feeding the garage, so I, or seed in the garage. So I just put the little seed on the top of the cabinet for Bertie and his friend. Anyway, before we go any further, no, no, come on. Now, we might as well get it out of the way here. Before we go any further, when we recorded the drive-through your program here a few days ago, that's, and we were actually recording at the time and got the news that Punk had released about Larry the dog.

and I didn't go into any more detail than I did about it because then I'd have been shot for the rest of the show and wouldn't want to finish. And we had commitments. But I just wanted to remind everybody, now that we had a couple days think about it, that pause Chicago, P-A-W-S pause, obviously. Chicago is the place that Punk and AJ had got Larry from originally 10 years ago.

It's a no-kill shelter, and they find homes for all of the homeless dogs and cats. And you can look it up at pausechicago.org. And, I mean, they do a lot of good for a lot of animals. And they're, you know, well-known and legitimate and all that stuff. So Stace and I, because Stace, as I said, was broke up about it, too, not only because of Larry, but also coming so soon after Harley. So we sent $500 to pause Chicago in memory of Lawrence Talbot. And we hope everybody will at least check the website out and just know what's going.

And if you're in Chicago or the Chicagoland area and you need a poochie or whatever, check them out. and while we're on the subject because you Brian last sent me forwarded me this email to the corny drive-thru email but from James he just wrote us that he had to put his dog down after 16 years and she had been there for him through all kinds of shit going on in his life but he took his mind off of it, listening to the show the other day when we were making fun of Brett Hart making fun of Vince and Sean

being lovers. So that took his mind off a little bit, but James, we want to say we're sorry for your loss also. And they were lovers. Oh, come on now. Brett Hart does not lie. When has Brett Hart ever lied? But we're sorry for your loss, James. I'm taking a sip there.

I'm just, oh boy. Anywho, going from there, how about going to the comics corner, Brian, would you like to go to the comics corner? Because we were talking about the Superman number one selling for $9 million the other week. And they'd been found in the attic and et cetera, et cetera. and we got an email from Lauren in Baltimore. And she actually included pictures to prove that the things that she is stating are true. But she says for close to 20 years, I've been collecting Victorian platinum golden age and some silver age comics.

My focus is mainly on Archie Comics, but I love them all. For me, my life's goal is to preserve old pop culture, so we may learn from it. You got to learn, Brian. Yeah, very cool. Is what they say. That's right. And she's written extensively about old comics in the past on Bleeding Cool,

read, Pop, the Overstreet Price Guide. I've actually heard of that because I'm an old person. Jim, your love of wrestling and old comics has been a source of inspiration for me. I can't thank you enough for that. I was getting burnt out, but both podcasts have given me a new lease on my longest running career and hobby. And as far our conversation, we were talking about the Superman number one and versus we'd always talked about the action comics number one. She says as far as action comics number one, there's possibly less than 100 known copies worldwide.

And can you imagine, it's not like anybody's thrown any away since 19-50, right? So I had Howard Raghavsky actually had one of those less than 100 and I could have bought it for $400. Hey, 1968, I should say. Question, I don't know the answer to. I don't know if you would, but maybe not right away. But when was the first time that Superman number one

was sent to another country and translated into another language? When were there additions from other countries? I do not know the answer to that question in short. And I do know that in the Golden Age era, in by the early 40s, there were Canadian additions. Obviously, it may have been an issue for Europe at the time. So that's a good question as to when some, even Superman, or which was the first,

was Superman the first superhero to spread, or because of the war, was there a loophole somewhere? Did Captain Marvel sneak in? What was going on there? Lauren needs to write us back. Years ago, there's a really cool book that was put out called Bat Manga and was reprints of the Japanese Batman comics from the 60s, which were nothing like the American ones.

the dialogue was extraordinary, very, I don't know, you learn a lesson, I guess you could say. Well, like the villains, it wasn't like about the Joker or the Penguin. It was Lord Death Man. It was like a skeleton coming after Batman. It's so cool. But I don't even know if that was the first time Batman was over there. Again, this is a question I'm asking myself.

No, I'm sure by that point. But, boy, can you imagine also think about, especially the covers on the timely comics in the World War II era, Captain America, Human Torch, Submariners, they were all anti-Nazis. They portrayed the hero Hito is the most awful racial caricatures of Japanese people. They were, you know, just nailing the Nazi access to the wall on these covers. They were always present the red skull was goddamn, yeah, nothing on fucking,

Hitler and the way that they were portrayed in those 41 through 45 era timely comics. So those covers are cool as shit, by the way. When I was a kid and I started buying comics, so we're talking late 80s, early 90s, I got really into the comic from the 70s, the invaders, because that was Captain America Submariner, original human torch, Bucky, fighting the night. Nazis and all of that stuff. It was like the stories from back then drawn now, adding to the mystique of the original superheroes of Marvel comics.

Well, the original mystique of the superheroes of DC comics is where I was going with this because she followed up. You can, for those who want to see Action Comics, Superman, number one, et cetera, the Library of Congress has them because they were really, recently donated by Steve Jeppie, who owns Diamond Comics distribution, and at one point had his own museum in Baltimore. I have been there. And that's where I said, and I think we've talked about it on the show, this was 15 years

ago. It's a comics museum? Well, it was, this was the most awesome goddamn thing in the world. In Baltimore, this was before I started working with Sinclair, but I wanted to, you to see this. And Stacey and I love Baltimore, the inner harbor. We've been on the fucking boat thing

that goes around the deal to Fort McFuckface or whatever, whatever. What is it down there? The fort on the nevertheless is a wonderful place to vacation. On the water. And Sabatinos, right,

and little Italy. And just so we had taken, when I was just working with Ring of Honor without even Sinclair, we would be in the Northeast, we'd stay in Baltimore, four or five days or whatever. And Steve Jeppie,

it's next to or was next to the ballpark, it's like a four-story warehouse that he, I forget exactly what did he, what did he, exactly what he had called it, what the name of the overall museum was, pop culture, whatever.

But this was all shit from his collection, and apparently they said he had more in storage. And it was not only comic books. And in one, when you first walked into the main room, in one glass-enclosed case, you saw Detective 27, Action Comics number one, I think All-Star 4 was that you saw like eight comic books that together, this was, as I said, 15 years ago,

still worth millions of dollars. And the walls and the different rooms and the different eras, but comic books, but on another floor was movie posters. I mean, all the way up to the one sheets, half the size of a goddamn barn wall that were in ornate frames hanging on these giant walls of this warehouse.

Wow. With the ceilings 10, 12 feet high, whatever it was. was and every kind of movie poster and memorabilia dating back to the origin of film and then the next floor it was toys it was the pop culture toys from all the eras going back for the silent movie days and the first Disney merchandising to goddamn today it was just absolutely insane you spend hours and hours you never see it all and because he just decided he was so rich he had this shit and opened up a museum. And I guess I'd heard that they had closed it.

And I guess, you know, now he's just donated this shit to the library of Congress because it had to be, if not the largest, one of the biggest collections of this kind of shit, I can imagine anybody in the world having it. It's just incredible. Where were we going with that? You said that his stuff was sent to the library of Congress? Is that what it was? well that's what sort of started to say Baltimore Baltimore Lauren says here Lauren from Baltimore

that they were recently donated to the Library of Congress Action 1 and Superman 1 were donated to the Library of Congress maybe he didn't donate the whole thing but they closed the museum as well I don't know it's G EPPI Steve GEPPI I because can you Google more quickly than I and see why he got out of the museum business? Because that's what I've heard. And also, if you don't feel motivated enough, Lauren says, Brian, you're great too. Sorry if you don't get enough love. Well, thank you, Lauren.

Happy holidays of you and your family. Steve. How do you know she has a family and how do you know she thinks that much of them? Steve Jeppie from Little Italy and Baltimore is 75 years old. He is an American comic book distributor, publisher, and former comic store owner. He established an early chain of comic shops in Baltimore in the mid to late 70s. He's best known for his distributing business. He found the diamond comic distributors.

Is this the one that just went bankrupt? Hold on. Well, I don't know. Nick, because I got a bankruptcy note because I had a toy on pre-order from... Oh, good. That was distributed from these people. But wait a minute, this guy, he, you know, at one time, but no, at one time I think this guy owned part of the goddamn ball team there.

It's like he's a multi-millionaire. He's not, he didn't make all this money from a comic book store, did he? It says here that his first job was handling comics for a local store, where he avidly read comics, including his favorite Archie comics. just like our friend here wrote in. Well, there you go. Archie was big in Baltimore. Ever the entrepreneur,

Jeppie asked to be paid in comics because he could sell them to other kids and make a better buck. Wow. What a hustler. We sure is, not Heyman instead of, go ahead. By 1960, what year was he born?

He was born in 1950. She was 10 years old. Let me double check that, yeah. Okay, by 1960, Jeppie was, quote, doing tax returns for his neighbors. Oh, God damn it. What? And later also, quote, handled football pools. Having left school to support his mother, between 1964 and 1969, he undertook a number of manual labor

jobs while dodging truant officers. He enrolled in a vocational school, but did not feel challenged, later recalling, quote, I had missed 45 days at the half and I was on the honor roll, and again dropped out. Later he worked for Lester White, Delectro Electronics, installing burglar alarms and doorbells before joining the U.S. Postal Service as a letter carrier. What the... When is he going to... I know the post office gets paid some serious money too,

but, you know, not anything like what this guy, where is he getting into the goddamn millions here? Starting age 19, with crap jobs, that's a quote, by loading trucks and substituting for other carriers, Jeppie was starting a family and needed solid, steady work, something with a future. A few years later, after taking the carrier exam,

he was assigned a flat route in suburban Maryland, while the Postal Service kept raising salaries. Jeppies paid tripled in five years. What the... Allowing him to move... Who knew about this scam? Allowing him to move his growing family out to the suburbs. In the early 70s, Jeffie was a member...

Wait a minute, hold on now. He just suddenly decided after he's done... all this other bullshit, I'll be a mailman, and in the next five years they triple the mailman's pay in Baltimore? In the early 70s, Jepi was a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses and conducted many free home Bible studies. Whether or not he's still affiliated with this organization is not known. Jepie and his family, did he write this? Jepi and his family vacationed every summer in Wildwood, New Jersey. where he met a fat rotund boy named Gino Moore

No, in the summer of 1972 His nephew was reading an old Batman comic book in the rain And Jepie found that reading that Batman Brought back his childhood memories of comics He still loved comics And figure there were others Who felt the same way

Buying a batch of old comics from a woman on his mail route he was soon spending weekends at comic shows buying and trading with other fans what year was this it does not have a year it said the summer of 72 is when he saw the batman comics or someone okay but see that's early see you could still that we were just talking about that you could still find people oh there's a box of comics at the yard sale here sonny but you know before we even move forward and this has turned into a long story here but just the idea that at some point someone said I'm going to start a comic book store somewhere. And that was such a revolutionary idea because how are you going to make money doing that?

You can get the comic books anywhere. No, I'm going to sell old comic books. Oh, yeah, sure you are. That was a leap of faith for a lot of people. Oh, yeah. That was, yeah. Even at that time, like I said, you know, by the late 60s, people were starting to smarten up a little bit. And in the early 70s, you could still get some deals and then everybody figured it out.

In 1974, Jepi announced his intention to quit his job and open a comic book store. He recalls that his colleagues all left their heads off. Already making more money with the comics than as a mailman, he opened his first Jepi's Comic World comic store in a hole under a TV repair shop, and that's a quote, in Baltimore. While specializing in older collectible comics, he began carrying new comics, chiefly as a means to attracting regular customers to the store every week.

He stocked his store with collections he found through the classifieds, traveling the countryside. Boom! It is beat up Blue Ford Van, one of the first specialty comic book retailers in Maryland. He built his business as the comics industry grew. Here's a quote, I would snowball one deal into another. If I made $5,000 on a deal and another deal came up for $5,000, I would empty the bank account, I would take the risk.

81 or 82, he had four stores. Trying to see how he... Where is he making enough money to have these millions of dollars and toys? In June 1994, Success Magazine featured Jepi on their cover celebrating his $250 million empire. What? And highlighting his co-ownership of the Baltimore Orioles. Okay, you can rewind it then?

Where in between fucking, you're trading the old comics and $250 million, what the fuck happened to him? Diamond Comic Distributors, I'm trying to see how he got involved with this. In 1983, Jepi was criticized for taking exception to certain adult themed titles and scenes, effectively causing the cancellation of a series called Void Indigo for its excessive violence. I guess he became... Where is the $250 million?

He won the lottery and didn't tell anybody just suddenly. In 1995, Jepi opened Diamond International Galleries, a showplace for comics and collectibles, part of his attempt to see collectibles attain serious respect. And it doesn't really say how... I guess it was through the... Is this a goddamn, some kind of superhero origin story

where he has a double life, sometime between this postman that fucking sold comic books on his side and the next 15 years, he ends up with $250 million? I think, okay, Lauren, go to work, we need you. More than it is... You've been covering this beat. Apparently, you know more than Brian. see if we can find out what the fuck's going on around here with this fellow.

Where did he get this money? What does he know? Who is he aligned with? These are things we need to know. Brian, I told you I've thought of a story. I don't know where I've told it to you're not. Maybe it's just because I'm old and you'll say,

oh, that old chestnut. But a couple days ago, I went to the dentist. And I've got the two front teeth. with the big posts in them and boy you ought to see what those things look like on a goddamn x-ray looks like somebody shoved a cue stick up in the middle of one of them they're not in danger of falling out in the next week or two but they probably won't last as long as i will at least hopefully if i phrase it that way so uh i got that that news and we're in an ongoing situation there, but don't reveal that, Brian, because it could cause all kinds of controversy.

Do not reveal what I just said to you about my dentist visit. I don't want anybody to know. Have I told you, or how long has it been since I told the first time that Triple H and China got mad at me? Or the dentist. Remember the dentist appointment? Have you even heard this story? I think I do remember this from a while back, yeah.

But hopefully you don't remember all the details or elsewise you'll sit there bored. No, it's been, it's been a while. I just remember the idea that you had heat with them. It's been a while. The only reason I thought of this is because there I was sitting in the dentist office and it came to my mind and I wondered whether I'd told you. But for the benefit of the younger people, do you mind if I revisit it? I was in, and we've talked about where I was in the office,

there in Stanford doing the third party bookings, where not only would the guys that maybe were lower on the card, weren't getting booked that often, you know, the road dogs and billies at the time, poor fellas, if you get them booked on independent shows, when they would still allow that, but the bigger stars got the autograph signings at the malls, right? And Steve Austin could get $20,000 for a signing at one of those

big malls in Connecticut for three hours, 25 years ago. And thousands of people would come. Well, I had China booked for one of them, which she was part of DX or whatever time period this was. It was obviously that time period, but she was somewhat of an established part of the deal at that point. And I don't even remember who called me. It may have been Bruce called me one day.

and said China can't make, she's got a booking for the signing at Zabadash, can't make it, she's got dental surgery. Okay, I'll offer the guy replacement or we'll take her off the deal, whatever. So I call the promoter. She can't make it. She's having dental surgery. We got so-and-so. I can't remember what the resolution of it was.

Maybe he took somebody else or whatever. But I get a call a couple of days. later and again I don't really remember I think it was from Bruce I might have been saying well triple H and China are mad at you I what the what they're they fucking mad to be about you you told the promoter so-and-so that she was going to have the surgery at I said well what that's what that's what I was told is the reason why she couldn't make the the date you have it they didn't want to get out

I said, I've heard of fucking people K-Fave at rehab at the dentist. What is the goddamn deal? It wasn't about her teeth. It was when she was first trying to have the Antonio andoki-like profile of her jaw that she had originally reduced in some fashion to where she would look less like a fucking alien being, right? and I said, well, what did so you should call them

and tell him you're sorry. So I call him up. I'm sorry. I did not mean to reveal any secret information, but I was going on the information I was told that I had to give

the promoter some reason for why you're just not going to come to the deal we got a contract on, blah, blah, blah. And they were, well, we just didn't want that to get out of it,

and I think it, Triple H was probably over her shoulder as she was speaking into the phone. But I was always unamused with them and their whole social circle, whether it be my, the, well, not road dog. I always love the Armstrong family.

And Billy Guns cool. But the Michaels is and the Triple Hs and the Chinas and the other things. but I'm sorry if I bored you with that story, Brian, because I realize now you remember everything I've ever said. I thought I'd come up with a new one. That period of time, that period of time, the click, and then I guess post-click when, you know, before Michael's left, when DX was him and China and Triple H,

but that period of time, was there ever a group you were around in wrestling that made it as much us versus them as they did during that time, like in their own locker room. I'm not talking about like evading WCW. I'm talking about like, it was like us versus them with a lot of people. I mean, there were a lot of people that had problems with them. And, you know, here in this story, made me think of that question.

Yes. Well, no. The answer to your question is no, but yes, the answer is I'm agreeing with you. So take that as you like. No, it was just a, it was constant. That's what, maybe if I had just. continued to be one of the boys and was just showing up and doing whatever the fuck and didn't have to goddamn have my already stressful office position, whatever it may be in the booking

or into goddamn third-party bookings or to goddamn anything else being made more annoying and stressful by these fucking children. And I was never a China fan because, although I don't think that it was her fault, I think it was their fault. She was apparently lacking self-confidence as a person. And so I think they pumped her up as what a big star she was, how important she was to make her feel better, so she'd do better in the position, but as a result, she started believing it. And she was a rotten worker.

If she was working with a guy who was a good worker and strong enough to move her around, put her in the right place, you could hide it, but with the girls, it was bleh. She couldn't do a promo to save her life with any kind of conviction. But I understood

the concept of, I mean, she was Jack Feffer's dream. This was not new in wrestling to take a strikingly visual, different, large individual and make money with them and work around them if they can't work.

So it wasn't revolutionary, It did work with her, but she began believing. And remember when, there wasn't one of their breakups or maybe their last breakup with the office, that she either wanted to start beating the men or wanted to be paid. If she was champion, she wanted to be paid like the male champion or whatever to help me with this. What was the conflict? I thought it was a money thing, but I'm not certain.

But it was one of those things where I think they offered her, and I could be wrong. I think they offered her like a really good deal for that time period, a lot of money, if not a million, you know, several hundred thousand dollars a year minimum. No, yeah, I guarantee it's more than that. You go ahead. Yeah, and she wanted more. And, you know, this was a negotiation and an offer that happened during a period of time where Stephanie and Triple H got together. So it wasn't like just fire her. They tried, but, you know, I think that whatever emotional damage.

was going on there probably rolled out into the negotiations and everything else just because, you know, it's easy to be unreasonable when everyone around you, I don't know. It must have been a very uneasy position for her to be in. Well, and see, that's the thing is that she was an impressionable, I think we talked about this maybe when she passed away, but she was an impressionable person that maybe didn't need to be in the show business. you know, for a variety of reasons. But the point is she, you couldn't, she didn't know that she had the spot because look at you. You look different, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent.

And that's why you're in this spot just carried off and work around you. She began thinking, and then she was going to do movies and whatever, and then she did movies. Her and Tammy, who would have thought her and Tammy, the only two people I've ever,

seen do porn that may turn me off of fucking and then she's on celebrity rehab and etc that that's what i'm saying is that you know that era of ex-w-w-wf stars being on the reality tv and not in flattering ways did a lot good for everybody in wrestling's public image but point being I was never, I was understood the gimmick, but I was never a fan of the overall whole thing. But nevertheless, I've told the story now, and you know what now that Brian, I think instead of telling the story again, since you've already heard it, let's take a picture.

Let's take a picture and put it in our aura frame, and that way we will always remember it, we won't have to tell it again. can you take a picture of a story and put it in an aura frame? I mean, maybe the artwork that one of our artists does for this, I don't know about take a picture of the story, but what a great idea you have in terms of putting wonderful photos, ignore the noise behind me, in a terrific aura frame.

Well, that's a Rod Stewart album. Take a picture of a story, don't it? And I'll tell you what, once again, with the aura frames, folks, and we're speaking from personal experience here because Stacey loves the aura frames that we got to give to her grandmother and her nephew. So now they're bouncing pictures back and forth across the atmospheric airwaves. Instantly, it appears by magic because they've figured it out.

Apparently, you need to use phones and apps and things. You know, Brian, that's over my head, but most people get it. But once you get these aura frames, apparently it's simple. for some of the technologically minded. They just do it like crazy. They download the ORA app, connect to the Wi-Fi, preload pictures before the frame ships, or do it afterwards.

Personalize your gift. You can even put your fingerprints and Social Security number right on a thing. Boom, and that pops up. So, for example, if your grandmother has some cash laid around the house, put that cash in the bank, take a picture of it and put it on the thing and show Granny that it's still there. Because it's lifelike.

It's lifelike. Some of these stories are lifelike, but they are indeed stories. Of course, there'll be nothing capturing your social security number, your fingerprint, or anything else. But what you can do is upload photos, even live photos, which of course are short form videos. What the hell's making all that noise? And you can upload it to the Aura Frames app. And of course, you can have it on your frames. I love the fact we have it.

here in the house, we bought several his gifts. I love the fact that they turn off with the lights. When you turn off the lights. You've mentioned that. That is really noisy. What the hell is happening? You've mentioned that too, but you've mentioned that every night when you lay your weary head down and you turn the light off

to go to sleep, the frame just, because it's got a light sensor. And that light sensor has a laser beam. And every night as you lay there, it's directing that beam of laser light, Brian, into your left. eye. Every night it directs that beam of laser light into your left eye until finally,

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It used to be like, oh, mail by the 21st, now it's like the 17th. But nevertheless, we are hustling trying to get everybody's stuff in the mail and we appreciate it. And we're still taking your orders. But you can have a happy New Year. instead of a Merry Christmas, Jim Cornett.com. And do you know what I saw the other day, I told Joe Dombrovsky,

my friend Joe Dombrowski, who's one of these young upcoming hot shot wrestling announcers making a scene you hear about, he's a really hep cat. And he is doing some compilation DVDs with matches that are not owned by the evil empire and socked away in the mountains. up there in

where is it Vermont or Maine, wherever the fucking maybe it's the fortress of solitude at the North Pole but anyway,

the WWE don't own this stuff so he can get away with it. And one of the compilations because he sent me a bunch of these and it saved me from the rotten television programming

has been on lately. I just started watching bits of a couple of them. But one of the compilations is on the Kansas City territory. And I know you're going to say, well, you always make fun of Kansas. So when you take a territory for 20 years and narrow it down to about three hours,

it does get a little better. But the Midnight Express matches, remember we went up there for that rib tournament where we had to wrestle four times in one night? They found them. They still exist. I don't think I've ever seen them before. Oh, that's awesome. But also another DVD it did was a,

and by the you he did have pro wrestling library.com but I get his old server I guess going to prison I don't know what happened he's migrating to Joe Dombrowski.com but I know nobody's going to be able to spell

Dombrowski so why would you do that? Come on, you're a smart guy Joe why would you pick a website with your own name that no one could spell? I don't know who's doing his goddamn fucking PR word or media work but never

he's a busy man, he's running an empire. But if you go to pro wrestling library, it'll still take you over to the new thing. Do with that as you will. But nevertheless, there's a compilation on Harley Race. And I watched that first. And besides the 70s, Harley,

which we'll talk about here at a minute difference than that in the 80s, Harley that a lot of people have seen. But to get to the main point, one of the matches was Harley Race versus Dick the Bruiser. And I thought, oh, I'm going to, so I click on that. And it's from Indianapolis. Sam Minnaker is doing the commentary.

And I know exactly what it was because it was the dying days of the WWA Bruiser's promotion that we've talked about with various, within a couple of years of each other, Bruiser and the Sheik both went pretty much and this so this was July 1981. Oh wow. I thought it was going to be a lot earlier than that. Wow. No, but here's the thing.

By what September of 1982, Bruisers out of the Expo Center. Can't run the Market Square Read anymore. Can't run a fairgrounds of Calsive anymore. He's in Tyndall Armory and he's making a deal with Jerry Jarrett to show the Memphis TV in Indianapolis and that's where

When Spike Huber and Steve Regal came down to Memphis, and I made a few of the shows that Jared booked up there, and Bruiser still insisted on being in the main event against Kamala, and Jared just said, fuck it, is hopeless, right? But it's like a year before that period, where it just all had fallen apart. And I swear to God, I start watching a match, and because of who Harley was,

he had agreed to come in, I'm pretty sure, as a favor, right? Because, you know, Sam Mutchnik loved Bruiser. Bruiser was dying. He needed a guy to come in and win the title so he could win it back, whatever. And Harley's a partner in the Central States territory, et cetera, right?

When in 81 is this? The summertime, because I remember seeing the TVs. And when did he lose the NWA title of the flare? It was on your birthday in 81. Oh no, Dusty wanted in between. That's what it was. Dusty, yes. Yeah, okay.

So he had just lost the NWA title then. Well, yeah, and yeah, this is, I can't remember the exact, see, and see, here's another thing on Bruiser's TV because it had also showed in Chicago and may still have been, who knows at that point, but just barely. They never had any of the belts on TV

or announced any of the matches as championship matches. they only did that in the promos in between and then you were left to assume it was a weird situation because Chicago recognized the AWA titles and Indy was all Bruiser. Nevertheless, I'm watching this match because of who Harley was

and to respect he had, you could tell Bruiser is letting Harley call the match. At the start. and at one point Harley gets a headlock on Bruiser and fucking Bruiser shoots him off and Harley has just asked for Bruiser to grab him in a headlock and take him over and Bruiser tries a headlock takeover and missed him completely and they both fall in a heap.

I'm like even then it happened but the thing I realized was that was probably the first headlock takeover, the Dick the Bruiser had ever tried in his fucking career. I've been watching Bruiser matches forever, right? He didn't do headlock takeovers, especially not when he was 50 fucking 5 or whatever he was here. And it was, but the

point is, as I was watching this, and then again, Bruiser, because of who Harley was, starts selling a little bit better than he would for anybody else for Harley, but still it was Bruiser was immobile at that point. I say, you know, that's familiar. And then I looked in the corner of the bottom of the, of the apron of the ring and one camera shot.

And there I am. I'm at ringside taking pictures. Oh, no shit. Wow. And I'm right next to Norman Dooley, who's ringside with me taking pictures. That was the- Who was he shooting for? Yeah. Himself.

Here's it. I had almost completely. forgotten about this and I know that you and I have never talked about this we've talked about the wrestling fans conventions they used to have the wfIA we talked with eddie gilbert was it several of them and we've told all kind of um Mike gratchner was a big who was the goddamn head of the the the the WFIA don wilson don wilson those guys they brazinski Dave Bresensky. Tom Burke.

Now you're just screaming names. Norman Kiteser. Nevertheless. Diane Devine. It's the love boat. Walt Wolanski. That's right. Barry Rose.

Pete Lederberg. We've talked about when I went in 1978. They were in Knoxville. And, you know, that's the year, Eddie Gilbert, but he wasn't even a wrestler yet. He came over as a fan and rode with me and my mom to the spot show. I think Taswell, Tennessee. And we saw the TV taping there, and we saw a Knoxville Civic Coliseum show and et cetera,

it was great. And 79 was the Memphis one. Where the Fargoes against the blonde bombers and the Hulk and Eddie Boulder were there. We've talked about that. They couldn't follow the Fargoes. And we got to see the Channel 5. TV and went to Jonesboro, Arkansas. In 1980 was Atlanta.

We were at the TBS Studios. We saw the Omni show where they turned on Dusty in a cage. And a spot show in, oh, God, was it, Rome, Georgia? I can't remember that one. But point is, there was a WFIA convention in 1981. And nobody ever talks about it. because almost nobody was there. And they had, for whatever reason,

they always wanted to do the conventions where the promotion would cooperate and not only sell them the block of tickets, but do the award presentation gimmick and meet the fans and the blah, blah, blah. And I don't know how, but they ended up in Indianapolis in 1981. and I don't, I barely remember now the show and I know that we went, but we didn't go to the whole convention.

I don't know what else was the whole convention. They weren't doing spot shows really at that time. Maybe they had a fair show the night before in Lagudi, whatever. I definitely don't remember any kind of awards presentation, and they weren't doing, a studio TV so it wouldn't have been a feature anyway so I'm pretty sure as I recall Norman and I just drove up to the Expo Center show to see that and visit with some people and because it's two hours from Louisville but I've never seen that video before and there we both were and

bored to fucking tears it was awful the state of the promotion at the time it was it was like I said on the way outs but they were still in the big building but they they had the diehards there you could tell Brian when a territory was dying they'd still be in the same building that they were always running but they only had a sixth of it full I can't remember how many people there were if if I said a thousand maybe there was 1,500. It's just they were in a cavern and maybe there was 7.50. But it was just bleak, right? But at the same time, all the fans mostly will be on the floor. Because fuck it, for the extra dollar or two, they're the ones that have always come and will be at

anything called wrestling. So you get it even more podunk feeling piss hole in a snowbank because everybody's down on the floor and kind of close and this vast reaches that are just empty. And the match, I remember one spot from this night as my most vivid memory of this entire card that as I said, I honestly hadn't thought of since it happened

until I saw this video. Another one of the matches was Bobo Brazil versus the Reverend Tiny Hampton. and he had gone as traitor Tim Hampton. He was this, he'd been around the Midwest in a minor position at some time or another for probably 20 years at this point. And somebody said that he may have been Bobo Brazil's half brother or something. But Hank James had that distinction in the 70s. And this wasn't the same guy.

I don't know. but the Reverend Tiny Hampton at this point was a mostly heel manager who had been a wrestler to no success who had the worst physique ever couldn't cut a fucking promo and just at this point had to be in his 50s

and how old would Bobo Brazil have been in 1981 right I'm going to say 55 hold on we'll be discussing wrestler ages again very, very soon on the program, ladies and gentlemen, but... Yeah, I wonder how old those gardeners are behind you. That's your...

Well, hopefully this will be the last time we hear them. Then they're going to be the snowblower. Bobo was born in 1924. Oh, so he was 57 at this point. So the spot was Bobo grabbed Hampton and, if I can say this, shot him off to the ropes, that said, and insinuated

that he should move forward into the ropes in a 16-foot ring they're using. And there's a big expo center. And Hampton comes off the ropes. Bobo is already holding his elbow up in the air. And Hampton visibly ducked his head down, took three more steps forward, and raised his head up under Bobo's elbow,

and then fell down. And it was just that, it was so sad because seven, and eight and nine years before that. This building was drawing 10,000 people. They were doing 12,000 people sometimes at the fairgrounds when Bobby Heenan fought the midget. They sold out the fairgrounds.

Bruiser and Sheik had done the all-time state gate record at Market Square Arena in 1974 and 15,000-some people. And by 1981, the crowd is a pissing. hole in a snowbank of an empty building with these septogenarians or is that their octogen, that's eight, pentagenarians, they're old fucking people. They're old, they're old fucking people. Harley Race was the goddamn young pup on the cart. And he was trying, but Bruiser couldn't fucking move.

And, but that's, we saw the same thing, the same principle. when we went to Kansas City in 85, those matches I was talking about, it was down to the people, again, that were going to come, that had been their life, the diehards, they were always going to come. And at the time I said this,

I'm not trying to insult anybody, but in the summer of 1985, when you looked at Memorial Hall in Kansas City, Kansas, 20% of the people had a visible disability of some description. And there were hundreds, not thousands. And those also are the kind of crowds you'd have trouble with because they were the ones that were more likely to get to you or want to get to you and try to do something.

And by this point, the promoters had cut down all the security so you're halfway on your own. it was just a dying territory had signs and it always it was saying different cities different buildings different rosters different reasons but the crowds always 1977 Cincinnati Gardens I'm sorry of 1976 I'd talk my mom into taking me the Cincinnati gardens again like Indianapolis I was four years too late that he gardens for barnet in the late 50s and early 60s. It's been sellouts and the fucking Sheik had drawn huge crowds there and the big

late 60s, early 70s run and Crocket would sell it out. We would sell it out on tie in the 80s. But I got to actually go one time to see the Sheeks big time wrestling. Sheik wasn't on the card. Abdullah the Butcher was in the main event and didn't blow. lead, which shows you how seriously the rest of the roster took the whole goddamn thing. It's an 11,000 seat building, and I don't know there were 700 people. And you could just, oh, boy, this, and I don't know that.

I think they stopped running Cincinnati before they stopped running to Kobo in 1980. Was Harley Champion when they booked them? He lost the title at the end of June to Dusty. This is during Dusty Roads brief NWA world title reign, this show. He would have had to have been, because they would have, they would have had, so this was, they always did the convention. I don't know the exact date, but they always did the convention in late July or early August. First weekend or last weekend.

So, but see, that's the thing. Harley was technically somewhat business partners with Muchnick, who was best, and Bruiser was still drawn and same. Louis. That's the thing. Bruiser could go. That's when he work with Flair after this. Yes. In 1982, Bruiser and Flair sold it the Checker

Dome? I know they sold out the Keel. I think they sold out the arena that they called the Checker Dome then, the big building because as much Nick's promotion had been better run with stronger television, local connections

and an influx of all of the young talent. He didn't just have Dick the Bruiser that was 50 fucking whatever. He had Flair 2 and DBIC and a da-da-da. So while Bruiser, in his own hometown that he had ruled for 15 years, couldn't even afford to stay in his building. And Minnaker, I think a couple months after this show I was at, he left and went back to Texas.

And Minnaker had been as Booker and his announcer for almost 10 years and did the boom with him. That's why I was surprised. This was 81. I didn't realize Menaker was still in Indianapolis in 81. That surprised me. But 200 miles down the road in St. Louis, bruiser can put 15,000 people in a building,

and he can't do it in his hometown at the same period. And that's why I say Harley was trying to help him, obviously. Is the whole show on video? or is it just that one match? No, just that match. And, you know, that's a thing. This is a collection, a compilation of, you know, different Harley matches.

And that's the thing I was going to mention, this is the thing that I spent most of my time doing on this DVD. I know a lot of people may have just seen King Harley Race and the WWF or seen the, even the 80s Starcade stuff. Harley by that point was almost 40 and had been working since he was 16 and was in a near fatal car wreck when he was still a teenager and had taken all those bumps. And he had slowed some things down and he had the aura. But if you go to the 70s and really up to about 1980 or so, the stuff that hasn't been widely seen, that's on here, it's a whole other guy.

And what I spent was every time he would do the knee drop to the head, I was stopping it and backing it up and slow mowing it. And it looks like it's computer generated, that he's not just giving a guy brain damage. And it's the one that Flair tried to copy. And Flair's thing, if you look, is he would leap up and would he come down he didn't have a pubic hair's margin of error, but he would come down right over the top of the head,

and the guy sold his head and it made it look, you know, that way, right? Harley's coming down with, as Bobby used to call it, the heavy knee. The heavy knee is Harley's right knee. That's the one that hits the mat. And Bobby would say, well, my heavy knee, because the other one is the one that's hitting the guy, and then he's doing that great knee drop off the top, right? Harley's heavy knee is hitting the mat,

but his left knee, the other one, is landing on top of the motherfucker's forehead. And then he's getting a bounce, and you can't see through it in slow motion. And a lot of Harley's shit was like that when he was younger, not only the big bumps he took and the way he flung himself backwards over the top ropes and the big backdrops and all the other shit

to make it exciting when the baby face mounted his comeback but he was the perfect heel for a baby face to overcome because all of the shit that he did looked so fucking nasty his punch to the face looked like he was really knuckling somebody in the eye and the knee dropped to the head and all the other shit that he was doing

had snap and crispness to it. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, that was one of the big revelations to me when I first saw the Mid-Atlantic tapes in the 90s when I was a teenager. I knew Harley Race as the King. I knew it was a manager for Vader. I knew the StarKade 83 match

and various other things. But I'd never seen like pre-perm late 70s Harley. And the stuff specifically him and Steamboat is what stands out. to me still. You talk about Harley doing that stuff and it looking good. When you do that stuff and you have Ricky steamboat selling for you, it's really, really good. Well, and see, that is the formula.

I'll tell you, the best match on this whole thing is a TV match from the Alabama territory from, I believe, 1977 or 1978 against Mike Stallings. Have you ever even seen Mike Stallings? I think maybe in Memphis, am I wrong? You are not. and probably in South Eastern. I think he was a possibly a friend of the Fuller family.

He was tall, athletic and lanky and worked like one of the Fullers, but he had a few year career as a baby face, but a very athletic guy would leapfrog and drop kick and et cetera, et cetera. And the best technical match is Harley and Mike Stallings because Harley was the champion wrestle defensively and then fucking roughed the guy up trying to make no mistakes during the heat

and then flew for the comeback. And so Harley was not the flashy, exciting guy by himself, which is why he and Bruiser suck donkey balls together. But the baby face that he was abusing and maligning and mutilating, he's got the excitement. and it's all about Harley directing the show. And this kid just followed right along, and they had a nice TV match, and Harley beat him with a suplex.

But that's what they used to talk about. A guy would look better in losing to the champion or whatever than he would just beating some schmo on TV. That's the kind of match they could put together, and that meant something then when things meant things, before it just all gone to shit. So that made losing to Harley, the champion on television in that good of a showing

would make you be able to move Mike Stallings up on a card because the fans would see him as a bigger deal. And again, the difference in, I can only imagine what the 1960s Harley was like. He wasn't as, I'm sure, as good of a reality. ring psychologist or a match caller, but the bumps had to be insane. No, AWA fans rave about him and Larry Hennegg as a team.

You know, that's why I've always heard they were the best, you know, heel team in the business. And it goes like Patterns, maybe Henning in Race and Patterson and Stevens and in Bachwinkle and Stevens. And, you know, but you can only imagine after all of the damage, that he had done, that he was still able to do this, what it would have looked like,

you know, five, seven, eight years earlier. Anyway, it just, that's the kind of thing that you don't see anymore is just a fucking guy who shit looks so good

that the baby face is elevated when he overcomes the shit. Now it's just, okay, it's your turn, do some shit to me. What other harm matches are on there.

Yeah, now you say that without me having the list in front of me, but there was Harley and Mike Stallings, there was Harley and Bruiser, there was Harley and got several Harley and Dory from, there's, they say they're Florida films. They're from somewhere with Gordon Solie and or Harley or Terry Funk or whoever voicing.

them over. So I think it's the old deal where they would send the tape to Florida because they wouldn't show it on TV and then those guys would sit at the desk and talk about it as they showed it. But I don't think it's from the Florida territory. And nevertheless, I'll have more reports on this because there's other, there's an Andre too. And the cover is the Andre and Lawler match a picture that Mike Shields took. But there is no video of that match.

They did a photo compilation of all of Mike Shields' pictures. But there's actually Andre matches on there, though, and I'm looking forward to that. I'll check back in with this. Nevertheless, Brian, before we talk about any further history-making wrestling from the past, let's talk about what's made history in the anales of the wrestling observer because I know that we talked about the

fallatio-like star ratings that Dave gave to the AEW paper view and there are various shenanigans and now his star ratings have come out for the Survivor series and remember actually the

AEW Cage matches weren't even on pay-per-view they were just on television and he just raved over those things so now we see what happens when the other company presents the same thing how how will he feel how consistent will he be you have this information in front of you i do i do have this the latest wrestling observer um he wrote a whole big thing about the war games and why he didn't think it was effective, but I don't have time to go through it all right now. But we have the star ratings. And why don't we do what we did last time, Jim?

You guess what you think, based on your expertise and what we've talked about over the last several years, what you think Dave's star rating will be for this event? I will do that. And I will remember also because I think he, remember now the AEW girls fiasco with the broken glass and the thumb tax and the barbed wire and the various near fatal incidents

from people not knowing how to work and all that stuff. Didn't he give that four stars? I think he did, didn't he? At least, I think. Yeah. And also then the men's blood and guts that they did where they added numerous, you know, tables and

and outs and dives and also set people on fire who was it they set at derby he's usually the one to get set on for isn't it an indictment that I have to ask who was it they set on fire three weeks ago oh I think he gave that four and a half or five actually so I have him here the men's match was five stars the women's match was four and a half there well there you go so now also four and a half star adam page powerhouse Hobbs false count anywhere. Well, okay, well, there you go. And that could be the counterpoint to John Sina versus Dominic Mysterio for the Intercontinental title, the hottest young star in the

game versus the biggest retiring star in the game versus Adam Page and Tits McGee, whatever his fucking name was. So I would think that Uncle Dave ain't going to like that. Uncle Dave ain't going to like the WWE stuff because they didn't have as many near fatal incidents and didn't do as many moves and he says he doesn't like all the gimmicks in the blood but he still rates all the matches with the gimmicks in the blood is five stars so he must he must hold his nose on nose but at the same point the the WWE matches had nobody almost killed

and I can recall and no unnecessary reckless dangerous shit no unprofessional botches and pretty much goddamn professional performances throughout where nobody was gutted with a rusty

fishing knife but having said that they still had their flaws which we picked apart in the individual reviews we did on the men's and the women's war games and we were so sick of the whole goddamn thing to begin with so I'm saying right now I'm going to predict that for for bias of Dave wants people to do a bunch of fucking moves because his whatever order or disorder he's got going on, his attention is held by these things.

And since the WWE didn't do as many moves, he's going to knock two stars off the total of each one of those goddamn matches. So whatever those AEW matches, their counterpoint on the WWE show is going to be two stars lower. That's my prediction. Let's start this game. Let's start this up with the matches. I apologize for the noise.

These people won't go away. Well, I told you a BB gun. It almost stopped. Now it's a smaller noise, but Jim, the women's war games match. Are you sure that's not just the neighbor's wife, Sibian? Can they close their windows? Jim, A.J. Lee and Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss, and Ria Ripley and E.O. Sky.

Defeated Oskah, Kyrie Seine, Becky Lynch, Naya Jacks, and Lash Legend. 40 minutes, 49 seconds. Every single bit of it. What do you think Dave gave it? Well, that's what, what was the girls' blood and guts thing? Four and a half stars. Two and a half. I don't know if this means your theory works or not.

Two and three quarter stars. Ah, see? I'm telling you. Now, again, Dave doesn't care that not only the biggest single name in women's wrestling was in the match, but actually, if you want to

elaborate that further, the top three or four biggest names in goddamn women's wrestling, at least were in this match. It was stupid, yes, with the girl, the trash can girl coming off the top of the blah, blah, blah. But that's a move. Dave should have liked that.

They're professional. They didn't waller around. And as I said, broken glass and barbed wire and fucking thumbtacks and foolishness, trying to be indie wrestling heroes like their counterparts. They turned in effort and a professional performance where nobody was injured, at least as far as I know. It just, it wasn't called for it. and it didn't need to be a war games,

and it wasn't particularly that fucking good. But if you're going to rate one thing, and let's just, we don't care if the singer turns in a brief and lackluster performance, you know, where she was still professional, we want her to scream and yell and forget half the words and be as loud as possible

and go on forever, and that's a more enjoyable show. You got to have some consistency here, Brian. Can I figure out any more similes? Well, what Dave wrote is this match came across long and lifeless with nothing really sticking but the sky spot. And even then, when the announcer sold it like, We are giving you a viral moment,

it completely took you out of any intensity of the match. Perhaps it would have been better with better crowd-miking. Good Lord. But then there were the same issues with just stupidity and deadness and wandering aroundness of the other match that he rated four and a half stars because they were all pumping blood and wallering around in garbage. The work wasn't even as good. Again, I can't explain his philosophy.

Match two, Dominic Mysterio won the Intercontinental Championship from John Sina, 16 minutes 47 seconds. What do you think, Dave Meltzer rated this? Okay, well, and he gave hangnail and what's call it? Powerhouse Hobbs. Hobbs, poor Hobbs, can't even think of him anymore. Poor House Hobbs. Poor House Hobbs.

He gave him, them four and a half stars for, that was an electrocution finish, wasn't it? That was the electrocution finish. A pre-bump slightly, you discovered, when you're rewounded, watched it slowly pre-bumpel extrication, that's right. Well, it was like on Saturday Night Live when they were doing a sketch and you're just supposed to imagine that the sparkler behind the cardboard box really meant it blew up or whatever. But if that was four and a half, then he gave Sina and Dominic,

as I said, the biggest star retiring into business and the hottest young upcoming, up yours fucking talent. And yet it was just Hollywood. showbiz Broadway got too busy, but people loved it, but he's going to take off two stars, so two and a half. Three and a quarter stars. Well, he's not being as blatant as I thought,

but I'm still not that far off, am I, Brian? Within the range, I mean, I guess your philosophy or your math is somehow working so far. Dave wrote this was a cookie cutter house of torture match, except it came off better because of the star power and Liv Morgan. What about a house of torture mat? What the fuck is he talking about? Those are my thoughts, though.

I thought this is a cookie cutter house of torture match. But better. That's what I thought. Jim, the next match. Maybe there was icing on the cookie cutter. Stephanie Vacare retained the world women's title over Nikki Bella, 12 minutes, 21 seconds. What did it get in the observer?

well now we've got the wild card here bitches no pun intended uh because we don't have a counterpart on the aew show but he always okay these awful matches that mercedes moon has that go forever like 25 minutes he gives them four stars for whatever reason so by using the two star math you'd give this two stars except in this case boy howdy Nikki Bella sucks so yeah he gave it two stars because he never gives anything less than two stars I don't think I give you this one

a star and a quarter oh come on you're more than three quarters of a star off I'm not giving you that if you were half a star off no I don't mean oh come on you I mean oh come on him didn't he give the the fucking match where the guy broke his leg and they carried him out on a stretcher. He gave it more than two stars.

What was the last time? What was the last time he gave anything? If a guy has a fucking heart attack in the middle of the ring and fucking falls over and they're pumping him with the CPR and they drag him out and take him the hospital, does he still give it three stars? Yes. And he gives this a star and a quarter or whatever? A star in a quarter.

Let me just see if he says he's just calling the movie. There's no heat and this match wasn't good. Aside from... How many times can you say that? You can say that a lot, actually. Aside from fans wanting the devil's kiss spot. That's what I said. Everyone loves the S spot.

Everyone loves the S spot. All right, Jim. Well, I'm just... I've seen people that did everything but projectile fucking vomit in a goddamn ring get three stars from him. He must have hated this. Finally, men's war games,

Bronbreaker, Bronson Reed, Brock Lesner, Drew McIntyre, and Logan Paul, defeated Roman Raines, Cody Rhodes, C.M. Punk, and Jimmy and Jay Uso, 39 minutes, 24 seconds. How many stars?

Pretty much every major name in the wrestling industry all in one match in a stadium with 40-something thousand people in the main event again with all the professionalism in the world as far as not injuring anyone but it had its own issues such as goddamn soul train dance off in the middle and the you know just hollywoodness that they made out of the war games but if he gave the AEW ones with all of his friends in at five he's going to give this one He'll give it three, and then he'll add a half to not blow his credibility entirely because he just looks like a doofus.

So what are you saying? I'm saying take two off and add a half. So you're saying three and a half stars? Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think it's a miss also. He gave it four and a quarter stars. Oh, honesty shines through. Well, he gave it extra for the name value, I guess.

He couldn't deny it. But not as good as the fucking job guys filled war games that the other guys did. With Danny Garcia. See, that's the interesting thing. It's not even just the star rating for this specifically. It's comparing it to the match that happened a couple weeks ago. In AEW, he said it for one of these matches here. The crowd was dead, and then they came up for certain spots.

You could say that about the AEW war games. he even says that this was the hottest thing on the show here. The fans were into it. I mean, how could you not be if you're a WWE fan? It's all the star power. But again, four and a quarter versus run-of-the-mill AEW brawl garbage match. And that got five stars.

So that's why people always say that there's some sort of double standard. And then he says, there is no double standard. And then he explains exactly why there's a double standard. There's a double standard. But those are the star ratings for Survivor Series war games. Well, you know what it is? Brian is he's just able, he's like Tony, he's able to block out all of the negative,

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W.W.E these days, but I understand, again, little birds have told me that he is trying to present the case that AEW has somehow closed the gap this year. That's the phrase that I heard. Close the gap between themselves and the WW. How is this, what are the kids call it, mental gymnastics, monkey mathematics sounds more like it. How is he figuring this out. Brian, do you have any

details on this? Yeah, a little bit here, because a lot of people have been sending this over because they put it on their YouTube channel, so everyone's like, hey, look at this, what do you think of this? You know, they, uh, I guess they're following up, I think it must have been the media scrum where Tony said how they've had this great year and last year, everything kicked off with full gear and they've closed the gap and everything's up. I mean, just, what's up is down, what down is up. It's all fucking bizarre, ladies and gentlemen.

But Dave, I guess, heard that quote and heard some of the people scoffing at it. So, almost as if he had been talking to Tony about it, and he decided to jump in and give a defense of it if, uh, you like to Tony Khan.

Now this is also after Dave... Your whore from Richmond. This is also after we should point out Dave put up, or his team put up a video about Dave going off on the grifters who need to get a new act because AEW is not doing as bad as everyone says, and they

put up your picture with that, by the way. Do they all get together on buzzwords though? Like, let's figure out another buzzword, well, now they're grifting. And again, while we are not in communication these days, as you know, I've known Dave Meltzer for 40 fucking years.

And he never used that word until the past several years. I don't know when the first instance of it was, but this was not something that he either wrote or used in conversation just on the phone or personally with people. And then suddenly that appears,

and Carney was a thing for a while. He's just an old Carney. It's like when these... Shock jock. He's a shock shock. Oh, I know what you got that one. But that one has applications in the actual real world

rather than it's almost like that as more of these internet people discover how fascinating the real history of professional wrestling is and was always until they fucked it up here they want to be part of it more

they want to use these words and this terminology that only you know up until 10 or 20 years ago only a small number of people used when we talked Carney to each other in the ring or in the locker room or the the carney turns out he's a grifter or a carny or a Mark. And Dave has gone right along with it with the kids. Hey, fellow kids, as they learn these things, they want to put themselves in the business.

The people that are using these words today have never been in the legitimate wrestling business and didn't fucking, wouldn't have. ever made it if they'd tried. And even 40 years ago, I can tell you that people in the legitimate wrestling business didn't call people carnies or grifters. But do go on, Brian. And by the way, don't call other people grifters when you literally created a campaign or a strategy to go and just act like a complete douche on Twitter all day,

arguing with everyone because it's a business strategy. That's a grift. That's a grift. acting in a way that you would not normally act influenced only by the thought or opportunity of making more money is basically that's being a grifter, right? I would think so. Well, then nobody can call me a grifter because I haven't said all this shit for free for 30 years. Fuck you. If not longer.

But Jim, we have this audio here. All right now. Don't get too fucking personal. This is Wrestling Observer Radio. Dave Meltzer. discussing Tony Kahn's statement that they have closed the gap, quote, in a very meaningful way. Did you see the Tony Kahn quotes about how he says that they're closer to WW? Oh, they've closed the gap this year?

Technically, in ratings, they've closed the gap because Smackdown went to USA, so their number went way down. Okay? Raw went to Netflix, so their number went way down. you know NXT on CW their number didn't go way down and AW their numbers went way down because of max

as well but they didn't go down as far as the WW numbers so if in the both going down category the gap is closer yes when it comes to TV ratings let me stop there's more but that's just the TV ratings

I don't just give me a second just give me a second before we go any further so I can digest that. So he's basically saying they both suck, but one sucked a little less than the other. But

he's ignoring that, okay, Brian, if this is dollars, would you rather start with a million dollars, lose $300,000 and still have $700,000,

$300,000 left, or would you rather start with $500,000, only lose $200,000 and have $300,000 left? I'll take the $700,000, thank you. So what are you saying is they closed the gap because they dropped a little bit. They're still double or triple or whatever, but because they didn't lose, AEW didn't lose as many viewers as Smackdown did, or WWE did under the new methodology, they've closed the gap. Which it sounds like he's including Max, even though he doesn't know, like their numbers are down because of Max. He immediately said that's the reason the numbers are down. The numbers are down because of Max.

Meanwhile, we don't have Max numbers. And you have no... There's no... Other than the fact that a lot of people will stream stuff now, there still isn't any evidence that a large amount of the AEW audience immediately as of January or whatever it was said I'm turning off the TV, let's go to Max. There's no evidence of that yet.

They were dropping on a regular and consistent basis before the Max thing came up. Remember when they first did the Max thing we said well they still did about the same fucking numbers they had been and then it's been more slow attrition but there was no sudden drop like,

oh shit, I can get this somewhere else ever. It was just the continued decline. And to think that there would be, is 10% of the television audience watching on Max where you have to search it and it's like one of the least important featured items? Who knows? And by the way, closing the gap between that,

and WWE, I presume, right? Because I mean, some of this is not just outright said. That would mean you've somehow made yourself closer to WWE, like they're within striking distance. They're not. Like, you may not have lost as much of your audience. And I don't know this, actually. I would have to see the numbers as WWE moving from one network to another.

But it doesn't... The argument he's making is that your small audience didn't lose as many as they're big audience did. Well, let's see. Maybe he explains more here. There's more audio. When it comes to attendance, not so much. When it comes to big shows, who the hell knows? But AEW certainly held up very well

in pay-per-view this year. When it comes to other metrics, you know, I mean, that I've seen, they kind of look the same as last year. And for the most part, you know, live event, you know, live events. AW, I mean, I will say that when A.W. is not in a small building, they are probably a little bit up.

They had like 3,300 this week. You know, they had over 3,000 last week. Those are not great numbers. Let me stop it there because he's talking again about closing the gap and he's comparing the attendances. But when they're not in a small building, they're up a little. Okay. again as a business enterprise do i want to have 2,000 people in a 2,000 seat building or do I want to have 3,000 people in an 8,000 seat building that cost three times as much as the 2,000 seat

yes more people are going to go is sometimes not maybe not appreciably more but more people will go to one of the more well-known arenas in town than wherever the fuck they may be in Fisher's, Indiana, or Wartburg, Tennessee, or whatever. Just because they know where it is, they're familiar, and it's, you know, whatever. But that ain't going to be a strategy you need to follow, because then you're backward when they were in the NBA arenas

and they were blocking off 80% of the building and it looked like Ned. And that's drawing. That's not selling tickets. That's drawing people. Because AW, we know they give away a ton of tickets for dynamite. So just to say that too, but let's go back a little more about closing the gap.

But they're better than when they were doing, you know, 2000s, you know, in similar buildings. So there's a little bit of an uptick. W.W.E is a little down, you know, they were, you know, they're, you know, they were, They were always selling out, and now they're not selling out as often, you know, but, but they're still like so far ahead. It's not even funny. Like, they just drew 45,000 people.

What did you do? They just did 45,000 people on Saturday. So it's not like, you know, there's a big, big, there's a big, big difference in popularity. There's a big gap. There's a big gap is the word you're looking for. Wide. chasm. He, yeah, that's what he just, after he goes through this whole pitter, petter,

about how they've closed the gap, he's still there's so far in, it's not even funny, and it's just a wide, hopeless cause. What the fuck is he doing? And he can't even get that out. Is there, is there some way, do they have like any kind of linguistic dexterity test that, that all podcasters must agree to undergo to, potentially be able to weed out to people who cannot fucking spit out a word if it had fucking lemon juice on it?

No, no, there's some real dog shit podcasters out there. They don't have that. But this is interesting, too, because just hearing the way Dave jumped into this, you know, he brought it up from what we heard here in this clip that they put up on their fucking channel, it sounds like he's talked about this with Tony. It almost sounds like either here's Tony's defense. or here's our defense or our conversation about this? Because again, you're trying to justify this ridiculous comment.

WWE is not as hot as it was. We've been saying that for a while. AW hasn't gotten closer. That's closing the gap. They haven't done it. There have been times where they probably could have taken advantage of things, but look at the roster they have now. We'll talk about the uncertainty.

around their future media rights later on, but they haven't gotten any closer to WWE. They were closer to WWE in 2019 and 20 and 21, I think. Yeah. Than they are now. Appreciably closer at that point, because there was still the uncertainty with Vince, many of the fans had just given up on the evil empire

and wanted desperately with bated breath an alternate and there was some excitement and some freshness around it and again the landscape changed the big bad wolf

Vince got run off these smooth motherfuggers have moved in and they're going to bring every dollar out that they can meanwhile people have seen Tony shit for six years now

and it's the same shit with lesser some of the same people and most of them the lesser ones because all the big stars have moved along and the worm has turned so that's why early on i said they're they ain't gonna fucking their their opportunities their chance at this is not going to last forever and the more stupid shit they do with talent that's not ready for prime time at the start is going to hamper them. And now they've lost half their audience. And it's the hardcores. It's the, as I talked about, some things never change when you see the territories shrinking. It's all the people I want to sit on the floor.

They're going to go no matter what. and how long can they watch the same people do the same shit? Tony's hit a wall. As we'll talk about with this TV show, the guys are just doing her own thing, apparently. Because how elsewise do you account for the girls break a bottle over somebody's head and match before the fucking world title match angle guide?

It's just, go ahead. And again, we don't know the pay-per-view numbers. we have to take Dave and Tony at their word on those. There's nothing that's public about what they really are. But has AEW closed the gap with WW? Or has TNA closed the gap with AEW? We don't know what kind of numbers they're going to pull on AMC, but it'll obviously be more than access,

which we'll see that even exists as a channel in the coming years. But they're going to certainly have a bigger audience there than they've had, so they're increasing. They may not be AEW level, but they're increasing from where they were. They're running bigger buildings. They may have a lot of comps, but they've gotten their biggest crowds in history,

more attention on them in history, working relationship with WWE. Has AEW closed the gap, or has TNA closed the gap to them? Now that you put it that way, I agree that that's a perfect way to put it. T&A has closed the gap significantly on AEW.

If you look at where where they both were when they started or give AEW the first year in 2020 between then and now, my God, T&A has crept up about halfway on them, haven't they? And one last thing about all this, I know it's your show, I apologize, for taking the lead, but...

Well, I have an article here. I'm not going to quote the article. I'm not going to say we wrote the article, because it appears they're just quoting Sean Ross Sappa Fightful, so we'll give him the credit here for this thing here. According to a Fightful

select Q&A session, the report is that Warner Brothers discovery had in the past at least offered Tony Khan a television deal for Ring of Honor. However, the proposal did not meet Tony Khan's asking price. As a result,

he declined the offer, leaving Ring of Honor without a traditional TV home. So they offered a spot and instead apparently they offered the spot this again

from what I'm reading here on true TV potentially and instead they went with a replay of dynamite Friday nights at 10 p.m. That was originally going to be Ring of Honor

and Tony didn't like the offer and no one else's Well, well no actually that's the smartest thing he's ever done because can you imagine again after dynamite's bad enough collision gets worse what was it rampage that was a goddamn thing at one point at then a ring of honor TV show that you know Tony would be at because he's at all the shows he's the only one and more fucking inane repetitive indie fucking style wrestling. And for, again, even if you look at it,

not just from a bad programming standpoint, but he's a smart businessman because he didn't allow himself to be further burnout. And his shortage of talent further exposed by having to put together another hour or two hour fucking show or whatever on another network on another night and tape more of this shit. And that's, again, that's why

he didn't buy Ring of Honor as a business he bought Ring of Honor because a bunch of the guys went to him and said oh it's a shame to see it die and he's a billionaire or his dad is and he gave it a mercy fucking buy and he wanted to own it he wanted to own

he wanted on the catalog and he wanted it's but that's what I'm saying he like he collected memorabilia he wanted to own it and say he had preserved it and here it is on my shelf, and I'll keep it going for these young wrestlers, and I can book more. But it's not,

it's not in any appreciable way different from what AEW is, except the name on the belts. So what the fuck is the goddamn difference? Just don't have it, because it's useless, and it serves no purpose. The announcement that Tony Kahn purchased Ring of Honor

was March 3rd, 2022, so it's been a while now. Wow. It's going to be four years in a few months. Oh, Brian, I'm telling you, with all these numbers, you know, because Tony Kahn's good on numbers and Uncle Dave's good on number, there's something about their personalities that makes them good with numbers. But I'm just wondering if with all of these chances and, for instances and things like, what are the chances of this?

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Cadbury can help him clear it off so he can start over again. But Netflix, they're going to be the big disturbers, the big spoilers and all this. they are supposedly trying to, wanting to, gonna buy part of Warner Brothers discovery for $83 billion. Is this money even real anymore? Does anybody have to prove they've got $80 billion anymore

to just do this shit? Where is this money coming from? Cash and stock. Well, well, that, well, you go i could come up with that then if you can throw the stock in but already uh elizabeth warren has come out and said this deal looks like an anti-monopoly nightmare a netflix warner brothers would create one massive media giant with control of close to half of the streaming market hollywood is pissed off they've said this will potentially cost millions of jobs the

Republicans in California are not happy about it. What did they say? This representative Darrell Issa. Oh, Darrell Issa. Issa? I know who that is, yeah.

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they apparently, they stopped reporting subscriber figures this year, but they had more than 300 million worldwide. And, yeah, even Hollywood is pissed off because this could, with Netflix trying to, from what I understand, possibly put movies closer to their theatrical release on their streaming service, they're trying to put the theaters out of business. and the movie studios don't like this is millions of jobs

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which they would just let Warner Brothers Discovery keep and they would branch off into a discovery type of thing. And here's what I'm not seeing a lot of people barking at yet. And we'll talk about all this, but yes, Netflix is tied up with WWE. But also, even if Discovery is going to keep TBS, TNT, the television networks, are they going to be able to afford just the television networks alone, which apparently is not the most profitable part of this conglomeration,

are they going to be able to afford to pay $100 million to any goddamn wrestling company for anything? and would they want to this is what would new and they'll potentially be sold because yeah that's more likely I think that

you know if Paramount's not buying the whole package they're going to buy the networks and get CNN so they can merge it with CBS News and then if you've got the cable networks together that are sold to someone else well then they're going to start from scratch

to begin with to some extent but all new ownership of anything is going to take a look at existing deals. And this is not a secret. I'm not violating an NDA when I say this because Tony Kahn himself has told these facts later on after the fact. But what I talked to him seven years ago it was now, the year before they went on the air, the whole reason they got a show, a wrestling show on TBS at first, was because he was at a something to do with football. And Kevin Riley, right, was the guy that was in charge then.

And was TNT at first, actually? Or I'm sorry, T&T, they were on at first, and then they went to TBS because they got the hockey or whatever. I said it backwards. But the point being, he said Kevin Riley was there and he said, well, you know, you had Vince, because they're talking wrestling, it's Tony Khan, right? He's going to bring up wrestling to the police and pull him over for a ticket. You know you had Vince's only competition on your networks 20 years ago,

and he said the guy didn't know because they didn't pay attention to fucking wrestling. We all think of, because we're in the wrestling business. We all think of TBS and, Turner Empire and wrestling is linked at the hip. But those people, it had been 20 years since they had wrestling on. And they were all new and they didn't give a shit. They didn't go to work for TBS because they'd always been the wrestling company. So he got it and then got the renewal and the upgrade during that early honeymoon period

when they were drawing 900,000 or a million people on the fucking Wednesday night. And they had this, as we talked about earlier in the show, the Vince had heat. WWE was stale. They were the new kids. And those people have already turned over. Kevin Riley's gone. Now they're breaking this company up. I'm not being an AEW hater.

When I say that every time you have a new administration in charge of a network and you're dealing with any appreciable amount of money, which they are here now, you have people looking at you. And is it worth it? And the new companies, whoever they may be, new owners rather, are going to come in and see they're doing $500,000 instead of a million. and their other show does this instead of that. And they'll say, well, why are they getting all this fucking money? Is that it? Maybe they just don't like wrestling. Or maybe they love wrestling and they'll give them 24 hours a day on Thursdays.

Who knows? But if it's Netflix and they fold in the current streaming system, that takes away the Max argument. Because I can tell you that as linked as Netflix and WWER and how they're one of the top 10 shows every week, I don't think WW is going to necessarily even need to go in and say, you know, we don't want any goddamn AEW. They're just going to go, wait a minute,

we've got the biggest company in the world is one of our top 10 shows. Why would we be paying money that we don't particularly have to, whether we get out of this deal or whenever it runs out for these other people? Right now on TBS as a cable station, John Sina is one of the hosts of one of the game shows. Because the WW has all the stars. Netflix wants the stars. They went to cross over.

They went to blah, blah, blah. They're not just wanting to get in the goddamn Joe Petasino wrestling block business. So I'm not saying that any of this is going to make AEW go away next month. But over the next couple of years, as all these acquisitions take place, all these sales take place, and all these new ownerships come in and look at all of their deals, none of these people have to be in the wrestling business.

But you would think if they are going to be, they would want to be affiliated with the number one company. And can you see Tony Kahn going into meetings versus Nick Kahn and his band of Hollywood agents? And here's Tony Hippity Hop Kahn

bouncing off the walls and taking fucking Adderall breaks or whatever. You see, that's a large part of it right there. You know, the Tony Kahn, Kevin Riley thing. It was all about a relationship. And that's what it still is. And

Nick Khan and his team of agents are really Ari Emanuel's team of agents. And those relationships, they don't even have to try to kill AEW. Oh, you guys want wrestling? We have other wrestling we can give you. We have other shows we have. We have other things we can develop. If you want to stay in wrestling, work with us. We're number one. It's not going to be very hard. Warner Brothers Discovery sale is very scary for AEW. And if Tony denies it, he's lying. It's a scary time right now. If Netflix actually buys the channels beyond what's being reported right now, again, they have a big investment in Raw. You're

going to have to wonder if they're swallowing Max into everything else. Again, we're going to have to see how this all play. It's hard to even imagine in some cases, as I'm saying this, how it's going to work. Paramount? You know, again, we'll see. It's going to come down to Paramount still Paramount's still trying to buy this thing. They were $27 a share and they wanted everything. Netflix said $28 and you can keep the fucking cable station.

You know what no one's saying? No one's saying we really need to get Max because they have that strong wrestling product that's doing 500,000 people a week because that ain't fucking what's happening. So that's the other thing. The true strength of AEW right now is the streaming number,

probably more than a TV number for, for this argument, for who's going to purchase all these channels and what are they going to do with all the assets. And we don't know exactly what kind of asset AEW programming is. Who owns the belts? It's their IP on AEW belts. You know, the TNT and TBS championship. Who's getting what pay-per-view money? And there's a lot of things we don't know. This may be when everything comes out right now because Tony's longstanding partner through different is going away, one way or the other. It's all about to change.

And if this does go through, regardless of what the length of the contracts and the deals and whatever are, it can't change that if, if Netflix buys HBO Max away from the Turner, traditional Turner cable stations. HBO, I mean, and obviously the streaming platform,

but they would actually own HBO, I think, Well, yeah, but the point is, how long or do they have to do they have to reevaluate the deals for their carrying programs from an outside entity now on their streaming?

This is going to be a mess for quite some time. And again, in terms of monopoly, and I don't have a problem with Netflix buying this because I don't see any sinister motive. And in terms of the theaters, that's the changing times more than anything. And if something's hot, it's hot. it could debut on streaming and in theaters at the same time

if it's something people want to be a part of and see. Yeah, but that's a problem. There's not a lot of those things around. You got to release good movies. Yeah, you got to release good movies. That's the other part of the equation there. Can't be spending $500 million on some crap movie that no one's going to want to see.

But there are limited buyers, like I said before. I mean, there's only even when we were talking about to sale at WWE just a few years ago, there's only so many potential buyers. because we're talking billions of dollars and infrastructure. Who's going to buy this thing? So I got no problem

when Netflix being the buyer. If it goes through, we're all just talking about a potential deal. Nothing's gone through yet. I've been approved. Well, that's the thing, I'm sure that now that you've given it, your blessing, that was the biggest hurdle.

Then they'll clear the Trump administration over the fucking antitrust thing. And they'll be farting through silk from there on out. But the biggest hurdle was your blessing. Well, everyone thought it was going to be Paramount because of the relationship with the Trump administration, that they wouldn't have any problems with approval if Paramount bought it. So Netflix outbidding everyone and being chosen, however it went down, has been kind of a big surprise. Well, but if they've got $83 billion to buy this thing, they've got three or four billion to kick back to pig shit to make sure that they get approved too. I'm sure it'll all be worked out.

Oh, you got to see the Diddy documentary they just released on. Netflix four parts produced by 50 cent you you have already told me about the diddy doc and i'm gonna i'm gonna sit down and and do to diddy dock over the weekend so we can talk about it on a drive-thru oh nice nice just a little tease there i want you to have a good weekend yeah i want to see what did he do you're gonna see uh well brian i guess we ought to hop into it now the the the effort from our friends at AEW this past Wednesday. And again, I don't have, I got notes, but I don't have any blow-by-blow descriptions

of a lot of these matches as just as this show again, it's getting worse because you can tell that nobody's thinking of details. They're not mapping these. The show has no one direction. It's Tony Kahn making a bunch of matches and then all the guys doing their own shit. And it's all South.

When was the last time you saw someone new? Yeah, it's getting to that point. And they were in Fisher's, Indiana. I had never heard of Fisher's, Indiana. Apparently it's close to Indianapolis because they got a big building. But it's still, you know, it didn't sound real great. We're from Fisher's Indiana.

Well, good. I'm from Trout, Kentucky. Tony Chavani's hair was done by Earl Shib on this program. Did you see this now? What specifically? His hair, his beard, his mustache, they opened with him in the ring. They're all dark brown. I mean, like a paint job, we've seen him gray.

Why do you do it after we've seen it? Then we know, but it looked, it looked like it was. done by a mortician. I couldn't stop looking at how dark it is. It looked like Uncle Dave, except Dave has no facial hair because of that fucking alopecia

that he had that time. Listen, I don't know about that. There was a moment where they were at the desk, and you saw Danielson and Excalibur, I think, in the middle, and Chivani on the other side. They just don't look like an announced team. Like, Excalibur's wearing a black suit. Forget about even the mask, a black suit.

Chavani's in, what is it, a brown slash purple blazer with the AEW logo. No one else has that logo. He's the only guy on the show with a blazer with the logo. Why don't the other announcers have that then, or at least Excalibur? And then Danielson's just in a t-shirt or whatever he does. It's just, it's so low rent. They show up, they show up and here we go. They got all of money.

They just don't. So Tony's in the ring, and this was the most awkward. introduction, stand-up, pitch, whatever you want to call it, he announced that tonight we've got a one-on-one face-to-face so volatile

everyone is barred from ringside. Next week, winter is coming for the world title. Let's bring out Samoa Jones. What the fuck was he trying to say? I came to goddamn understand that tonight they were having a

a face off between Samoa Joe and we'll find out Eddie Kingston. And then next week is the match for the world title. And tonight everyone's barred from ringside so that I guess they don't get in a fight. But it was so awkward, it was all over the page. Tonight on one-on-one face-to-face, so volatile everyone's barred from ringside because next week, winter is coming for the world title. Let's bring out Samoa. and Joe.

And I'm like, what and then Joe comes out with the AEW World title belt and he's still carrying the ring of honor six man tag team belt or whatever the fuck. That's so confusing.

That here's the guy has the major title and also he's got another belt for something nobody cares about with the. And then that's the first time you heard Eddie Kingston's name from Tony when he said, and now introduce Eddie Kingston. He's the challenger.

And he got a title shot by beating Shepoopy the other night, I guess, on collision or whatever. There was a window for Eddie Kingston. And the booking didn't go with it. And then he got hurt and the window is closed. And Joe cut a heel promo and he's very good, but he tried to explain the hook deal, but he couldn't because it's inexplicable.

And then Joe basically said, you know, Kingston, you've never gotten it done. And the fans kind of felt bad for Eddie at that point, like Eddie, Eddie, but you won't beat me because I'll choke you out because you never get it done. And then Kingston does the promo, but Eddie Kingston can talk, but he needs an issue to talk about that is understandable. he needs people to be familiar with him and he's been a non-entity on this show as far as winning matches and cutting promos

of any description for a long time. He needs to be produced with the direction of his material because they did the old thing. Kingston was going, Joe, I don't know who you are now because when you were the Ring of Honor champion, I want you to bring that version of Samoa Joe next week. If you don't, I'll eat you.

So he's saying that the guy that's the world champion of the company used to be better when he was the world champion of a smaller company minute in comparison years ago that nobody was watching. These guys don't realize instead of speaking to the smart fans that they believe know every step of their career. And truthfully, that's the number they're down to where many of them. them do, they should not only realize, but they should hope that the vast majority of the people watching this television show never saw a ring of honor when Samoa Joe was the champion, or never saw any of these other incidents they're referring to, because those incidents were seen by such a small number of people in relation to what is a successful TV number.

today. So most of these people watching this now even, either don't know what the fuck they're talking about or they've heard about it because they read it on the internet. But they're still living in indie world

in the past when they had all their greatest triumphs, aka their favorite matches. Am I overstating this, Brian? I don't think so. No. So that's, again, we went in another time where the baby face tells the heel

well you better come to kick my ass next week than the Continental Classic and that's what they were doing. We didn't even go ahead, where were you going to say? I just want to say, I thought Samoa Joe was actually kind of awful here. Well, that's why he couldn't explain what you couldn't understand.

It just didn't seem natural. That's the thing about Kingston, no matter what he says, he sounds natural. He could talk gibberish. He could talk and scat. and it would sound natural. He could talk... It sounds like he means it, yeah.

Yeah. Samoa Joe didn't really sound like he meant it. And again, they're talking about hook, you know? I mean, that's the other thing we'll get to, I guess, later on. But interesting way to open the show. These two have had limited interaction. You would think they would save the face-to-face or the face-off for like something that kind of is a thing.

But I guess they're trying to make this a thing for at least the night. Winter is coming. And just as you said that, I had another ice avalanche on my roof. Winter is coming. It's already here. What else is here is the Continental Classic? And they did this on the Thanksgiving week show. The night before Thanksgiving, you and I both had better things to fucking do.

And that's when they started the Continental Classic Tournament, where Tony gets not only to book tournament matches, which puts people against each other that you should never match against each other. But this is based on the Japanese tournaments where there's a blue block and a gold block and people wrestle multiple matches. They don't get eliminated when they get beat. They just don't get a point. And the winner gets three points.

But if you get a draw, you get one point. And you don't get any points if you get beat. And it's for people with minds for numbers for a meaningless belt where everybody wrestles everybody. And they all go too long. And that's what, again, Tony is, he's lost it, he's run out of ideas, he's doing the same shit. And even when he had better talent to past few years,

this thing was always blah. And how can you even keep track of who's the champion of what? There's multiple champions wrestling for this title. but here we had pack endo boring and that's another thing about this tournament you end up random heel versus heel matches like this to do nothing for anybody because pack looks tremendous he's in great shape he tries to emulate dynamite kid with his body language he's great technically he's got no personality but with a good presentation and booking, you could make him a silent, moody, badass.

But Okada's just lazy and all his shit looks so fake, and it's like needles under your fingernails to watch him. And they went 15 minutes. And then I swear to God, this is the finish. I'm not lying here. Pack gave Okada a superplex off the top, They called it a brain buster, but he tucked his head. And then after the superplex, Pack hit the ropes twice, got the speed up and gave him a big

close line, and then went down to grab his submission hold on Okada, and Okada just rolled no sold all of that and rolled him over and pending him, one, two, three. And the announcers are still trying to, I assume, at Tony Kahn's instruction, put this lazy sack of shit over as the greatest wrestler. in the history of tournaments and the greatest tournament ever. And that's what they did there. Do you have any follow-up?

You know, I enjoyed this. I enjoyed this more than most Ocada matches, just because I wanted to see how they were going to do this. And eventually they got there. And, yeah, PAC hasn't won a match in a while, has he? It didn't do anything for him. He just got beat again.

And at the same time, if Ocada's never going to. to put any effort in. It's not like he's going to get overbeaten anybody. And I mean, I don't think he can, he could maybe still have a good match in Japan where they don't take away points for the blank facial expression and the lack of logic and the goddamn just lack of charisma.

They just want to see the match or whatever. But I think he's too broken down for that, isn't he? Well, New Japan's about to have their last big heyday, so we'll see what happens in Japan. Well, now, heyday, you say that loud, Aubrey Ed will be there. She won't miss Hayday. So Darby Allen is in the hospital after last week's tournament match with Kevin Knight. Babe, this is a shoot, apparently, and they put it on television,

but somehow or another, last week, Darby landed on his head. Imagine that. And after the match with Kevin Knight, the middle card baby face, they took him to the hospital and they showed a picture of him or they had him for observation. He hadn't been cleared or whatever. Even if this was real, why would you tell anybody this is the problem with the tournament matches? He had a meaningless baby face match and Darby Allen.

the top gimmick baby face into company who was just recently challenging for the world title has been hospitalized by a mid-card baby face guy. And Darby did the job in the match too, put Kevin Knight over. Why would you do any of this? If it happened that he had a match with Kevin Knight, and there's no way that Kevin Knight should have defeated Darby Allen at this point in time in both of their careers in this,

presentation on this show. And Darby did go to the hospital. You shouldn't say anything about it. Because why? Not only is everybody always going to the goddamn hospital around here, so it loses effectiveness anyway, but why would you tell people that, yeah, your top fucking baby face got hospitalized,

but Kevin Knight. Blame my heel. Idiots. But that's what they did. And then, what was that? Ryan, do you disagree or no? Well, what was that photo?

It was like from high above in the hospital. It wasn't like, you know, next to him. Well, they didn't have a bed so they put Darby in the children's ward and the bed was real low. Fortunately, he fit. They sent a giant to take the photo or they have a drone? Like, what the hell was that photo they sent in? I'm just, but do you see my point here? Why would you do any of that?

When was the last Darby? match you remember where he didn't do something where you said, man, he's going to be in the hospital, but he's going to be feeling that. That specific thing. It's every time. I can't remember what. It's every match. All righty then,

we had another continental classic confrontation in this tournament. This was Kyle Feltcher and Kevin Knight. And I've already said everything, Kyle tremendous, potential. I ain't going to learn anything here except bad habits. It's a shame. Could be Randy Orton. He's probably going to be more like Darby Allen. Kevin Knight has potential.

He's athletic. He's exciting. He doesn't look tiny and childlike. He needs to be produced. But he's in the same boat as Kyle. He's never going to get better here. He's never going to work with guys that are going to teach him in the ring. shit he should know instead of teaching him how to do more fucking moves.

And again, because of the booking, this is a guy, when you first seen before you put him on your television, because I can't imagine that Tony, well, yes, I can come to, but theoretically, you don't ever as a booker put anybody on your television that you haven't seen work somewhere, somehow by live or on tape or whatever. They should have again with this kid said, okay, we're going to debut him. We're going to give him a couple of wins. We're going to put him in maybe a middle card program

with some other guy so he can win that. And maybe a month or two later, we'll do it again. This is worried people don't forget about him. Then maybe one of the top heels is going to fuck him up. But he's going to come back and try to fight and get involved in something else and over the course of a year, 18 months, you brought him up to where people kind of take him seriously. Instead, they brought this kid in and they beat him and then they teamed him up with the most

goddamn fucking offensive abomination that's ever stepped in a fucking wrestling ring. And he can't be taken seriously with his fucking partner. But here in this singles match, he did good shit. If they knew what they were doing, they could get something out of Kevin Knight, but they don't, so they won't. And they went 13 minutes in Cal Beatty. Do you agree with me about Kevin Knight? I said that from when he first came in. I said, this guy has something.

He has a look. He doesn't look really small. He looks like he's in shape, and he can move and do the cool kids. Do the cool spots the kids love. And they immediately put him in a tag team. Jet Speed. and we're right back to square one. And now he's losing a bunch of matches in the tournament.

And people are laughing at him because his partner is a goddamn, it might as well be wearing a red nose and floppy shoes. It's just impossible to take seriously. Now that you say that, that's what I visualized. And it's kind of funny. So then here was another example of, Does anybody format this show or do they just make it up as they go? Kyle beats Kevin Ninth and Don Fallis gets in the ring

and gives the microphone to Kyle who's sitting on the ropes kind of blowed up and had very little to say. And then Josh Alexander and Chichichia brought the duffel bags into the ring and there was an awkward pause back and forth where Kyle gave the microphone back to Don and then Don started talking while the announcers talked over him and said, well, Don's got a message for the bucks next. I guess they were reading his mind because Don was not saying that, but he was still talking when they went to the break.

And what the fuck is getting there? They don't even know what they're doing on the, winter is coming. Winter is coming. And he's here. And he has arrived and he is arrived and he's here. So they come back, it's a nine o'clock hour and there's Don and his heels still in the ring. And Don is pissed about last week where the buckaroos, you know, he said, I can forgive being stabbed in the back or cheated or forgive murder.

But I can't forgive you for siding with Kenny. And he got a little mild Kenny chant going about three or four times. And so the buck's money was supposed to be in the duffel bag. So Don said, I've got your money. Come and take it. Oh, boy. So here come the Hardley boys. And they hit the ring and they super kick everybody and they give Kyle that shitty knee lift.

And here's this, again, this great prospect of a kid. He's a foot taller in both these little shrimps. And they just give him this doofy little knee lift and he just lays there. and rolls out. And then the fight was over in 10 seconds. The buckaroos got the bags. But then somehow here came, oh, boring, back out. Our friend Okada, and he stopped both of the bucks himself.

And then got fake heat on the buckaroos. And then music played. Doon, don't do. Oh, oh, ha. Here comes Jungle Jack off and Dino doge in, and they cleared the heels out of the ring in seconds. And then Jungle Jack did a backflip out of the ring. But Okada gets in the middle of ring and kicks Dino into balls and drops him.

What is this guy fucking Superman? Does he have pictures of Tony with a Dalmatian or Tony's Dalmatian with the Dalmatian? so then here comes jungle boy and now there's a face off between Okada and Jungle Boy and Okada gives him the finger and Jungle Boy bites it and Okada makes a funny face and I'm like can somebody put this on Twitter with circus music behind it? so then while he's biting the this guy and a guy at a mask and body suit

and they jump on jungle jack and it was slow motion heel heat and it went for a while and Don made a comedy routine out of gouging one of the buckaroos, eyes. And then they played more music at ear game, Kenny. I swear to God, wearing a Kenny Omega Christmas sweater. And now by this point, I'm trying to think of Con is then.

Count the manager, there's like seven, eight heels out there. Well, Kenny rolls in and three of the heels run at him one at a time so he can beat him up. And the other ones apparently just stayed on the floor and said, fuck it. and then the heels rolled out and both these groups were so mad at each other that they stood 20 feet apart and stared at each other for a while to break the end

what the fuck is going on here it's the same shit with the same people every goddamn week and they're not even trying anymore the shit looks fake they're just wandering around. They've got no direction. I apologize, Brian.

What did you think? Do you love it? I thought the bucks were stupid when they left the money with Calus and ran into Save Kenny at the pay-per-view. And then I think Callis is stupid for bringing the money back. How would you bring the money back?

You know, it's just not clicking. Kenny Omega will get a pop. With those fans, Kenny Omega, it's not even that he's a big star, he's not like a legend because he's old and he's on the other side of his career and he was like the first big star for a lot of these people. But the buck stuff is death,

the endless callous family, just non-stop members, jungle boy trying to act tough, this whole thing isn't working. And it's all independent of like everything else happening. You know, it's like the bucks, for all the shit Cody got to, about the Cody verse, the Buck's verse is still in effect. It's the same cast.

It's the same cast intermingling with this. Yeah. You know what somebody needs is a new line of work. Who? Any of these people. Oh. Anybody involved that we just talked about, instead of being in the wrestling profession,

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They had a semi-final match, Brian, in the Women's World Tag Team Championship tournament. When is the last time in the recorded history that there were two tournaments for two different championships going on on the same program at the same time? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't think it's ever happened, has it? Because it's stupid. Has anybody ever been to see? stupid before. And I guess you don't consider the national title gauntlet match a tournament, so that doesn't count, but that would be a third title up for grabs in the midst of this period

of time. Well, yes, but at least it's over now. Oh, I used to watch this show, but it's all over now. Did you go to Max? So, the semi-final women's world tag

team championship tournament match had special rules that one of the teams won the opportunity to, this is a hardcore holiday death match, no disqualification, no tags, and no rules, as a semi-final match in the women's World Tag Team Championship tournament ongoing. And one of those two tournaments is a girls' garbage match.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? So it was Megan Brain and Marina Schaefer who was substituting for the injured Penelope Pitstop taking on the team of Tony Storm and Mina who are now called the Timeless Love Bombs. What the fuck is the matter with these people? Is the timeless love bombs? Oh, okay.

Yes, they have a dance routine and now they both wear the Michael Myers fucking Valvaline full body suit or whatever and they're apparently romantically involved are Tony Storm and Mina Melons but were you a fan of the dancing? Just interesting it just seems like this is all for them you know what? Of course it is!

A whole little dance routine they worked on in the back and and of course the stipulation which wasn't needed. They get to show their entertaining side in the timeless love bombs is what they would call them in Japan, which is where all these people wish they were. Because they're Japanese wrestling marks and not even the good kind, the Antonio Onoki Giant Baba of 70s, 80s kind, but the fucking goofy kind that they've got today because their shit is as fucked up as our shit is over here today.

So they, I was on fast forward, but I saw a sense. six-foot barbed wire candy cane. Marina Schaefer bladed from a bottle broken over her head. They had two tables. They were wrapping the tables and the chairs in Christmas gift wrap so they could unwrap them and then use them. A frying pan, Kendo Sticks,

it's a goddamn Saturday night live sketch. It's like they are doing now what the people who used to hate wrestling would do to make fun of it, make it look as silly and stupid and fake and phony as possible, and let everybody laugh at it. And there was a bunch of fake, sloppy, and or dangerous goddamn work at one point. Brain tried to double suplex two girls and, well, both Tina and Mina. and dropped in, I think it was Mina, landed on her arm and was selling it, not in a working way.

Tony, not Tina. Tina, well, Tina, whatever. Tina and Mina. But anyway, there was a bunch of shit. They can't work and they don't know what they're doing with all these gimmicks, and they're trying to do shit like they've seen on the indie shows they've been on. And somebody's going to get hurt sooner or later, badly. And then after about 10 minutes, Santa Claus.

comes out, but it's Luther, who's got a present, a gift-wrapped box in his hand, and Schaefer, and the stunt doesn't even work. Schaefer is supposed to snatch the box off, and it's Luther holding his finger up to her, like Dick in a box, only Luther's middle finger, I'm sure, is larger. That's probably why they picked it so they could see it on camera. But she didn't get the box at first try, and he had to help her, and then he gives her the finger. And then he gives Tina Storm the shoe, and Storm hit Schaefer with the shoe and small package, your one, two, three.

And a lot of AEW has been embarrassing to wrestling over the years. But this ranks, this was putrid. And I'm thinking at this point is Tony Kahn is his last word to the whole thing, be making nobody want to see any wrestling. So if he's going down, he's going to take them all with him. Is it possible that he's trying to just say, fuck it, I'll just goddamn ruin everything for everybody.

Why would you do any of this? How can you call yourself a professional? Everybody involved should be ashamed. The people who weren't in the match that don't quit should be ashamed. I mean, it's just a goddamn. him. It's a joke and it's not even funny. And I don't know what they think they're trying to fucking prove. Do you think you should read anything in Duluthar being there in terms of Chris Jericho's

contract status? Are they blowing each other now? I mean, Jericho got him the job. He's Jericho's buddy from Canada. He wasn't actually active in the wrestling business doing anything on TV in America ever. Jericho got him a job with Tony Kahn. He may be a nice politician, but Jericho, can't get Luther a job with the W.W.E. He's not Merlin the fucking magician. What are they going to do with fucking Luther? No, I think Jericho will be showing up

for his retirement ceremonies up there as soon as he can, but Luther will be working here for the rest of his life because as the next match shows, they don't get rid of anybody. Tony Kahn is still paying the dork order. Long John Silver and Fat Uno and the other fucking guy are still there. They've still got a job.

Then they trotted them out to do a job for Hobbs and Shepoopy and Hook. So six way on the floor, they did some random shit to each other with no tags for a couple minutes. They went to a break. They came back. And I did need a chuckle by this point. fat Uno tried to make a comeback. And they actually let this fat fuck beat up hook and Shepoopy.

And then Hobbs walked in with no tag. The referee's staring. Let Uno hit him a couple times, leveled him, slammed him and covered him, and the other two got on Hobbs with like fake girl punches. Where it's kids playing in the bouncy house at McDonald's and they're not even trying to, I mean, it looked like they were scared that if they potatoed Hobbs, he'd hurt them.

And then the heels just stopped them in one. And then here came hangnail, because he'd said earlier, he still talks to the dork order. And he said as soon as the match was over, he was going to come in and get even. And so hook bales out and runs off and pages in there with a 12-foot long, logging chain and is trying to beat up Hobbs and Shepoopi with it.

It looks fake. He hits them once and they get back up your shot and he can't work with it. Hobbs and Shepoopi missed their cutoff spot where Page was waiting, but Shepoopy wouldn't kick him from behind. So he ran in and hit Hobbs another eight times and then backed up the same place. Then he kicked him. And then they got a little heat on him. Hobbs nailed Shepoopy by mistake, and Paige tried to break a bottle over Hobbs's head.

Page took the beer bottle out of his jacket pocket and goes to hit Hobbs with it, and it didn't break because the bottle was a foot over the top of Hobbs's head. Page hit Hobbs and head with his forearm, but the girls had just broken a bottle over the other girl's head in the previous goddamn match. What the fuck are they? doing? An insecurity came out and Paige beat them up and the heels ran

off. Brian Wins the last time you saw two bottles broken even though one didn't break in the same TV show. Maybe in the same match at the most, but the two different angles on the same show? Well, in this company,

I can believe they might break two bottles but in normal fucking life. No, no, it doesn't happen. Ever in history, no. Did I miss anything in this little presentation? We heard, I should say we hear, we heard that they were doing some sort of production meetings after they got grief for not doing production meetings. If they were, how would that happen? Where two different segments on the show have the exact same thing happen.

It's happened before at AEW. It's not new. Well, yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. They do the same shit all the time. either they're not having production meetings or they don't know how to have a production meeting or they just after the production meeting, somebody gets the idea that they want to add something to just go ahead and do it and don't tell anybody about it.

Any of those things can be possible. That's what I have to say about that. A banner episode of dynamite so far. Well, the main event is yet to come, Brian, but it's coming right now. Another tournament match, Dick the Boozer versus Claudia, castignoli. Now, the same group. And I hate the whole Boer Horseman thing, Moxley,

and the whole group, it's never worked, it's been stale and stagnant and goofy. But I was insulted for their group that they would book this. Because why, it makes no sense, two guys in the same fucking group. Both of them are heels. It doesn't help either one. And there's no logic behind it and you can't say that they were taking it easy on each other because they Moxley was busted open and bleeding like a fucking pig and they went 15 minutes so now they're just supposed to be partners going forward or what are they going to fucking break it off where Moxley goes with the girl and then you've got Claudio Garcia or is he still in it useless pack help me pack so

We were you to Daniel Garcia, Claudio, Moxley, Marinusufir. Was it just, there's nothing there. So they rang the bell on this at five minutes to ten, so you knew they were going well over. But within the first five minutes, Claude, they'd gone on the floor, they'd run him into the stairs, they'd fought in the crowd,

Moxley was bleeding. And then at 10 o'clock, straight up, when they started the overrun, they were in the middle of the ring trading fake forearms. And they proceeded to have another 10 minutes of the same kind of shit that Moxley always does. And then they were back in the middle trading forearms. And then Moxley hit his DDT finish, but they both sold for a while like they were spent. And then Moxley's in the corner and Claudio's about to get up and they're looking at each other.

And Moxley pulls himself up to his feet. and Claudio popped up to his feet and Claudio hit an upper cut covered him, one, two, three. He didn't lose a match for three fucking years. Now he's beating like a goddamn drum every week. Now by his own men, what is happening here? This was like when Dory wrestled Terry in the tournament, if that was like underwater and they were decomposing at the same time. No, um, I don't know.

I don't know. I also don't think it helps anyone to give Claudio a big win because I don't think the fans see Claudio that way. They don't see them the same way the guys who are friends let them see them. And again, I guess you can't win every match in the tournament unless you're going to win the tournament. So everyone has to listen to. This don't have this stupid fucking tournament.

The Japanese culture is very different. In case nobody's noticed, Tony. just because your talent roster are marks for niche Japanese wrestling of the modern era, not even when it was mainstream, you don't have to fucking do it. You can't translate a lot of this stuff to this country, especially on a show that has not ever been noted for having any kind of coherent booking whatsoever to just matches all over the place. no direction whatsoever.

And Tony's hit the wall that he's just doing the shit that he used to do on his message board with putting guys' names down. And either nobody can talk him out of it. If there is any experience or knowledge on the roster, they are shunned or not listened to. and the kids, you know, the girls get to bleed and play with toys like the guys now,

so they're all happy. And the guys get to stand in the ring and trade fake forearms, which makes them happy. What do you think of Moxley being the champion for so long, having the persona being the either the baddest guy or the guy who needs the most cheating to help him win? and then I guess Darby Kyle O'Reilly the war games match or blood and guts

and now Claudia what do you think of him losing so much all of a sudden Well can it I maybe it's part of whatever story he's been trying to tell for the last year and a half did we ever find out

what he was trying to do for this company if that was his story is I'm doing it because I'm sick of what the company's become and I'm doing all this with some ulterior mode did we ever find out what the ulterior motive was

the draft away viewers who has it helped who did he who did he help van der pusses i'm making i'm making them do this for their own good he just stole a bunch of fucking indie movie scenes because he thinks he's a goddamn actor of some description and it never was it's never paid off

it's never been tied together There's no resolution to anything. It just keeps going on and on and they just start a new idea. Now they should reveal that Shane McMahon was behind this whole thing. Remember where that was the rumor? That was Shane McMahon behind the Moxley group?

Yeah, there's another higher power. One of the powers was high, but it wasn't Shane McMahon. This is not your company anymore. Oh, my God, he must mean Shane McMahon is coming in. What? Yes. When did he? ever did he ever take over the company who moxley or she no no moxley he was the world champion

but it never they didn't take over the company they just drove off the viewers by taking over the television show i mean the fucking buckaroos have done more damage to tony con than the boer horseman ever did they at least got to drop him on his head so that you know he could have fun with wearing neck brace to the football meeting fun with a neck brace that's right Well, that was AEW Dynamite, the Continental Classic, and Full Effect. And we have a few more weeks before the next pay-per-view. And then at least I understand we're getting a break. Because there's no pay-per-view from AEW scheduled for January or February at this point.

So perhaps we can rejoice. Are you serious? Usually, don't they do something in February? I'm just telling you what I'm just... seen on the advertised on the social medias. When's Australia Grand Slam? I guess that's a dynamite. That's what it is. I don't fucking know.

But also, you and I may have an argument over, their pay-per-view is December 27th. That's right in the middle of our Christmas break. And I don't know. We need to hear feedback from the viewers. Do you give a shit? No, they want to hear.

If we even watch that thing. They want to hear. They want to hear what you're going to have to say about that thing. Oh, shit. I want to hear the thing. is going to be. Oh, everyone knows that thing's going to be a fucking train wreck. They want to hear what you're going to say about it? Don't give me that thing. Don't give me that. Give me that.

Who's Samoa Joe wrestling at the pay-per-view? Who the fuck knows? Right, because Eddie Kingston's winter is coming next week. He might, Kingston might be the champion after next week. So they can't advertise a goddamn main event of a pay-per-view in 20 days. Well, that was dynamite. It sure was. Do you have any closing comments, Brian, before we wish the fine folks said, That was Dynamite. Listen to the wrestling news,

wherever you find your favorite podcast, and of course, Oh shit, that's a good idea. Thewrestlingnews.com. One other thing I do want to say, Jim, and we see this every time of year, but we've been inundated with it so far, and it's early in the season.

Thank you to everyone who sends over the screenshots of just how much they listen to the podcast or consume the YouTube clips. You see some people, it's like, you are in the 0.01 percentile of, Cornet listeners. Like, wow. But you know what?

They've changed the way that they figure those, that they configure those screens, because it used to have like the particular thousand minutes or whatever. And now it's got a percentage. And I used to like to see who had the most thousand minutes. I think it depends on what you use. Shopify, not Shopify, Spotify, may have one thing versus YouTube versus anything else.

But thank you to everyone who. We appreciate everybody. Yeah. It's really nice to see. Thank you. And I'd like to be in the, 0.2% of something at some point.

Although actually I'm thinking we have got to be just with the amount that we want we got to be in the 0.2% of watching us TV wrestling with the shows we watch everywhere. Nobody can possibly watch more than we do. Can they? I guess they do and they like it.

Campbell, California. Oh boy. All right, there's a good place to leave. Folks, until next week on the drive-through and the experience. Thank you. Everybody. Get the experience.