Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 613: Holiday Merriment

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

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Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's in Kornet. The keys to the future. Help by our net. It's before Christmas and we have stuffed our stockings today with letters from listeners, accidental champions, people I've pissed off and a lump of coal from AEW.

And joining me for all this and so much more holiday merriment. Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. Co-Oost to you, hopefully he'll find a new organ in his stocking. Be great, Brian Last, everybody. Aloha, Jim, a pleasure to be here once again. Hanukkah's over. It's now Christmas time. Merry Christmas to all the listeners.

And what a wonderful holiday season we want everyone to have. So when does Hanukkah, I think we've asked, I've asked this before. but is it same dates or it differs in the dates. That's right. And it ends Sunday. It ends Sunday as we are recording. So it would end Sunday of the, not the Sunday before Christmas, but the Sunday before the, or the Sunday before Christmas.

That's right. And then a few days later is Christmas Eve and then Christmas and then you're just waiting for New Year's and not so you get like 15 fucking holidays, right? Yeah. Is there, there's the 12 days of Christmas, but there's 12 days of Christmas, but there's 12. days in Hanukkah, but we don't... Eight days. Don't add 12.

I thought there was 12. I thought there was... I'll take them if they'd offer them. That's more gifts. Well, I thought there was 12 days in Hanukkah was the takeoff on the 12 days of Christmas. But I never got Christmas when I was a kid 12 days in a row. It was just the once. And then my mom said, all right now.

Back to real life. Did you ever do... I mean, it's a big thing now. I mean, as I'm saying this, I don't know if it was a bigger thing then. Like an Advent calendar? Oh, now, help me. What? What?

We're starting like December 1st, the days leading up to Christmas, there's like 25 days of, you know, it's like a special calendar. Now they do all these things where like on every day you open it and you get a gift, you pull out a little gift. Where the fuck are you finding this shit? It's all over the place. The kids are, they all love their Advent calendars. My son got a little Lego City Advent calendar. My daughter got a microphone. When I was a small child, I was lucky to know what day of the week it was.

Are you guys they didn't give us that shit written down where we could keep track of time. way they could keep us in school longer. But no, besides the you knew, you knew when the last day of school was. You could, you could determine that.

They'd give you a number, whether it was December 19 or whatever the fuck it was, depending on the way that the days were laid out in the course of the Christmas season. You knew that and you knew Christmas Eve and you knew Christmas. And you were too young to give a fuck about New Year's at that point. So after Christmas Day, that was the big one. But no, I didn't get a series of daily presents leading up to the goddamn holiday.

And you didn't have elf on a shelf where your mom would have to wake up and hide the elf every morning, so you'd have to go find the elf leading up to Christmas. Are you fucking, if I'd have been searching around in places in the house for the shit that was hidden, she'd have whipped me. She's all you wanted for your fucking presents early, huh? Come here, I'll give you the fly swatter. No, what, no. There was none of these.

You put the presents in the box, and you wrapped the box into paper, and you put the box in the wrapped into paper under the tree, and you sat and mooned at it, and sometimes you could pick it up and shake it and try to figure out what was inside of it, but then you got to unwrap everything on a Christmas morning. I've never heard of daily presents or calixties,

calendar count downs or whatever the fuck you were discussing. And we still have no idea if the garbage pickup is going to happen Christmas Eve morning. That's the big question. Oh, good Lord. All right. Now, hold on. No, we can move on with the show.

I just wanted to say that to you. No, no, no, no. This was off the air. This was a discussion that you and I had off the air. With our lawyers. For the record, with our lawyers. Yes. We ought to call with the attorneys.

And by the way, not that we. were being the defensive part, we're the offensive part, we're very offensive in this, in this legal matter. That's right. But the point is, is you were trying to ask me, you said, hey, would your garbage pickup happen on Christmas Eve morning, like December 24th or sometime in that day? And I said, well, that's not my regular garbage day, but usually if the garbage day falls on a holiday, then they will pick it up the following day, and that's not a holiday. And then you blurted out that you ask me what you should tip your garbage collecting people. No, I asked you what you did tip. I didn't ask you if you should, because we do. I asked you

what you do, and you lost your mind. And I looked at you through the connection here, like you had steaming turds hanging out of your mouth. Because how do you have connection or any contact with your garbage people? Is the question I asked to know who the fuck you're even giving money to it. Why would you give them money? You've got private garbage people of this, the fine city in Jersey, in New Jersey there that you live in, does not furnish your garbage collection with your tax dollars.

What the fuck are they paying for up there? You've got some kind of private garbage collection service, and they have already informed you that they're open for tipping. Well, you put it in such a nefarious way. Let me just take a couple steps back. We have people who do the garbage pickup. We have people who do the recycling pickup on different days, the same company. I don't think it's uncommon for a lot of areas here in northwest New Jersey

to have private waste management specialists who handle things. And they leave an envelope, usually wishing you, usually a couple weeks before the holiday, a Merry Christmas, a happy New Year, and they make sure they write their name there. And then you return the favor by leaving them something with the garbage, a little card, and you give them a tip for the year of work and that they only broke one recycling bin in the year?

That's progress. The year of work, they fucking come by and they dump a bucket into a truck at the end of your driveway once a fucking week. Apparently sometimes not even that. How is that a year of work? First of all, they've already let me know they expect it. So what do you think is going to happen if we're the only family that doesn't tip them? Secondly, I was actually looking on the local community Facebook group where a lot of

people post interesting things about the community, then other people just want to post shit anonymously. It's pretty funny. And apparently there were rules because someone said they tried to hand the garbage man a gift and he said, we're not allowed to accept gifts from people. So that's why you attach it to your garbage can. Because they can take that. They could take anything with the garbage, but you're not allowed to actually tip them person to person. Okay, wait. So I see, instead of like they get their contributions from the human fund instead of from people or whatever, you've got to put, literally put the money with the garbage so that they can get both. And I told you that for the ever, that I've ever lived here and in most other places that I've never

tipped or interacted with my garbage people because they drive a big truck down the road. they stop in front of my garbage buckets. They have a thingy that comes out and picks the bucket up, dumps in the truck, and they set it down, and they go on down the road and do the same thing everywhere else. I would not be able to pick any of these people out of a police lineup, and they have never tried to contact me. One time, like this was 15 years ago,

I'm sitting out there in the driveway doing some. It's a summertime, and the guy comes down, road and he picks the bucket up and when he dumped the bucket he lost the bucket went in the truck too he took my goddamn garbage bucket and he's pulling down the goddamn and i'm like hey you got my garbage bucket and he's gone i jumped in the fucking truck and i pulled down this driveway and i took off after him and i got by the time i got my keys it was he was a little bit ahead of me but i caught him around the curve by the dairy farm and i pulled over front and I waved. I said, hey, you got my bucket. He's like, I know, I can't get it now.

They'll have to bring you a new one. Because I guess he couldn't get up in the truck and get the bucket. When you said I jumped in the truck, I had the funniest thought ever. I thought you jumped in the garbage truck. No, not the garbage. I jumped in my, no, he was already going to, I jumped in my truck, my vehicle, Black Beauty, because he was already going down the road and caught up with him. But they, some of the Sometimes apparently they can make that mistake. But otherwise, I've never had any interaction with my garbage people, and the city takes care of these type of things out of the taxes that all us citizens pay.

Do you tip your mailman? No. I tip my mailman. Now, there's a limit on how much you're allowed to tip the postman, so you have to be very careful, but they won't be able to accept it. But you've got to tip the people who are regularly doing things for you on a regular basis. If they're coming to your house on a regular basis, they get a tip. He drives up to my mailbox and sticks shit in, or he drives up the driveway and drops the stuff off.

My guy comes to the front door and fights with Swami. Well, see, now that's a whole different story. But my UPS guy, the regular guy, that's so nice to me, and puts all of my supplies where I want him in the garage and everything. I just gave him an extra $25 or whatever it was the last time that he was. And see, also some of these times these people just come and go and you don't see them. But if it's... I can't sit on the porch and wait for Godot or whatever the fuck. If you get a card that says, it's been an honor picking up your trash for the last year,

Merry Christmas to you and your family signed Vito and Javier, they want a tip and everyone else is going to do it. I can't be the only one not doing it. By the way, they deserve it. They're lifting my, if it's the same people all year, there's a lot of garbage. Do they physically lift, they don't have a truck that just comes and picks the bucket up and dumps it in? They're physically picking this shit up and everything. Both garbage and recycling appear to be the same system, which is one driver. Yes. And then one guy hanging off the back and kind of doing all the grunt work.

So it is unfair they're splitting the money. It should really go more to him. Wait a minute. What the fuck? What kind of goddamn happy days world are you living in up there back in the 50s? When I was a kid, they had a guy hanging off the... I haven't seen a guy hang off the back of a garbage truck in 40 years.

What is going on up there? 40 years. I don't even know. That's a... I mean, it's a regular thing. And by the way, that's good for the local economy. It's another person getting a job. It's good for the local economy to have a guy hanging off the back of a garbage truck.

When he loses his grip and gets run over, he'll turn into goddamn fertilizer and help make the yard green. and all that tip money will be really appreciated, wouldn't it? Where do you? I'm putting this out to the cult of Cornette. Where and where do you not see any more in this day and age, just residentially picking up garbage, a guy hanging off the back of a fucking truck?

It's all mechanized and computerized and sanitized. And then the thing just comes out, the lift, and it takes the bucket. it puts it in and boom and they drive on down and you'd ever even see the shit. They don't even have to smell it anymore. And do you tip your garbage man? Do you tip your mailman? Because I think most people, at least the mailman, I think most people do.

The garbage man may be up in the air. But again, we don't have the municipality. The garbage man may be up in here. It sounds like he's hanging off the back of the truck. He's in the air. You see technically he is in the air. All right. You haven't seen anyone hanging off the back of a garbage truck at 40 years.

That's a ridiculous comment. It's all over the place. Well, it's all over the place. When's the last time you've been to Metropolitan Louisville, Kentucky? The last time I did, I got a police escort out of town, so I don't know. Well, all right. See, there, then they were pulling the fucking garbage. I remember that night.

But nevertheless. Yeah, that's not a lie. And you thought for sure she was 22 years old. Hey, come on now. I had nothing to do with a girl. It was about you bloody heels beating up Tommy Rich and causing the fans to turn on us. Just a riot, just a small riot. But nevertheless.

I am telling you that I have not only lived here, but I've lived, even in Connecticut, I can't recall seeing a guy hanging off the back. And if there's any place where a guy would hang off the back of a truck, it's Connecticut. But all right. You know, though, in general, New Jersey is the one state still, although there are some people trying to get rid of this, and I hope they never do, that you don't pump your own gas. You stay in your car. Every gas station has to have attendance to pump your gas. No. Which is the best thing ever, the greatest thing ever.

No, that pissed me off 25 years ago. And it would piss me off even further today. Because you got one Gomer Pyle motherfucker in any kind of peak situation. You've got to pull up there, waste the time you could already been fucking filled up ready to go on getting the guy's attention or having him service you with your pipes and your tubes and whatever, your tank. and it takes twice as fucking long. And then you have to interact with people. I'm on a goddamn schedule. I'm doing the Le Mans.

I'm in the wrestling business. I can't just hang out and talk to Goober about checking my oil. How about that? I don't know. I don't have to talk. Again, all you have to do is pull up, hand him my card and say, fill it up regular. Well, that's like...

And then he hands it back to me. I don't have to get out of my car into the cold air, which you always complain about, and then I just drive off and go about my merry day. That's exactly how it should be. No, no, that's the American dream. Not getting out of your car to have to put gas in it. All right, ain't that America?

You already, John Cougar lasting camp, you're assuming in this commercial that you're shooting for this oil company that that fucking attendant with his spotless outfit and his bright smile is standing there at that pump, instead of inside the fucking hut taking a shit or try to talk on the goddamn phone back when it had a wire connected to the wall to his girlfriend or something

and it is not coming out to give you the deep I didn't even know about it one of the first times I just pulled up and turned a pump on and began pumping my gas and was going to go in and pay as normal and a guy showed up about halfway through It's like, I got it, buddy. Oh, I'm supposed to do this.

I said, oh, well, carry on. Again, another one of the great features of the Garden State, New Jersey. Yeah, along with people hanging off the back of a truck. Jersey. Working men, hardworking men who appreciate their Christmas tips. I guess that's the point. This is your show. for a...

Yeah, well, thank you very much. Just again, for someone as financially peneurious as you are to be just handing out money to these... You have to take care of your people. If some guy just knocks on your door

someday it says, hey, I'm a garbage guy. Go ahead and give me my tip. Would you know who the fuck he was? Does they have to show some kind of credentials? Do they have a garbage collectors of America card? Again, that's not the protocol. and I already know from other people in the community, you can't have face-to-face interaction.

Here's what's happened. I know what's happened now and we'll move on. This isn't your garbage people at all. This is a scam. They go around behind the garbage people and they put that card on there and they wait and see if you're a sucker enough to stick some cash on top of a garbage can

and then before the pickup that day, they fucking come around and goddamn snatch the money off. The garbage people don't even know anything about it. You have been scammed. you have been scammed and perpetrated against hoodwinked, bamboozled, sheistered, even. That's what's happened. I think Vito and Javier will know all about it. Well, now we go to the great state of West Virginia real quickly.

I just thank you, Chad Keeney, the nation's number one blind vendor. You know, I've talked about Chad before he sent me all kind of clocks at talk and all kinds of various gifts. and he stocks all the vending machines. They're on I-79 in West Virginia up and down the various places in all the rest stops. And so I probably say Chad Keeney has probably been more rest stops on the side of the interstate in West Virginia than probably any other human being. So he's got that going for him. Guess what he sent me for Christmas?

Which one of his things that he rips off blind people with, did he send you? let's think. No, he doesn't. He is blind. He doesn't rip off blind people. He's a blind person, ripping off people that can see. That's why we root for it.

What did he send you? Did he send you a piece of wood, but right, hey, I got you this book? No, I've given you a clue with the man's, the man's career here, the man's line of employment.

He sent me a box of all of his Birch diet, honey buns and bear claws and three musketeers and chips and all the vending machines. I haven't had an iced honey bun in years. And that used to be basically from like 10 o'clock at night until 7 o'clock in the morning, all you were going to get at a hotel in the way of anything to eat was chips, crackers, and honey buns and the vending machine. So I haven't had one in agents.

What's honey buns? Like a cinnamon roll? it's a honey bun what is a honey bun ice honey you said ice honey bun well you put icing on it rather than just the regular honey bun so it is like a cinnamon roll it's it's it's well it's kind of it's a yeah it's it's it's in that flavor that genre I guess you would say but it's not a cinnamon roll it's a honey bun and then you put icing on it the fuck's a matter just like a cinnamon roll but yeah you you you you you do you does it contain cinnamon You tip garbage men and do not know. No, I don't think it does, actually. But you tip garbage men and you don't know what a honey bun is, differentiated from a cinnamon roll. Is it like coffee cake?

I'm starting to lose my patience with you. I guess I'm going to have to tip you. And there, yeah, that's another. Well, we'll talk about that off air. And also, Chad has started a campaign. He has sent me some of the pictures. It's pictures of my travels with heroes and friends is what he's calling it.

He's taking my book, and he's having his picture taken, holding it in front of all the various rest stops along the highways and byways of the state of West Virginia. And he might throw caution to the winds go all the way into fucking Pennsylvania someday. Well, good luck.

Thank you, Chuck. Yeah, good luck. Happy holidays, Chad, and good luck on your travels and good luck in West Virginia and Pennsylvania. I've got this, hold on, I've got these pictures copied out. Fayetteville, West Virginia, Bridgeport, West Virginia. Oh, North and Southbound.

So he went both, Chad goes both ways across the, and Orlando, West Virginia. And there you go. Already my book is packing on the mileage. All righty. Real quick, before we have any more frivolity, a couple of folks have written in. And I've found, again, some emails from the last few weeks, folks, so it's, been busy. I'm sorry if I haven't caught up, but Matt from the UK sent us both an email to the corny drive-thru account and he's had a rotten year. He lost his mother in the last year. Then his dog,

as of 10 days or so ago, his aunt was really sick and, you know, might not have made it to this point. And, you know, he's, again, he's got two beautiful girls, daughters that, and a wife, he's, you know, trying to keep it together for, but sometimes he listens to us and our inane antics to feel a little better. And we wanted to, everybody to send him some kind of happy holiday wishes. Merry Christmas, happy New Year, etc. I don't, is he in the UK? Do they say happy? He's from the UK. Happy Christmas. That's right.

Happy Christmas to you and your family and your garbage men, whether or not they're part of the local. Why do they say happy Christmas over there and Merry Christmas here? Has anybody ever figured that out? No. Well, I thought you'd check into it. All right. Anyway. And also, a fellow named guy as opposed to a guy.

as opposed to a guy named fellow. No, his name is Guy. Send us an email, and Brian, you know this. Guy lives in Indiana, got a beautiful daughter that's a teacher, a couple of teenagers, one's a freshman in college, and the other one, you know, is graduating

or about to graduate probably high school. And unfortunately, I guess, just a little over a year, ago, his other son, he lost him in a horrible incident. Let's just put it without going into all the details, because I don't know if he wants to be public that he wrote us, but it was just, the whole family has been torn up and trying to deal with that for the last year or so. And again, he's got a guilty pleasure.

He listens to us at night. Brian, instead of getting on one of those fancy Dan new phone sex lines or whatever, so that he can cheer up a little bit. Well, you know, you're there, you're under the cover or the blankets over your head. But you've got to pay, right? There's a fee attached to that. So it takes away some of the joy, I would imagine. Well, $1.49 a minute.

But hey, what is this? What's $1.49 a minute? That's before inflation. How much would a $1,900 number be now if it was on TV? $5. Oh, probably, probably $900. That would be the meaning of the 900 number. It's good, $900.

We'll tell you whatever you want to hear. But anyway, Guy, we hope that we keep telling you whatever you want to hear. And we're so, both of us, Brian and I, sorry to hear about what has happened and hope you guys get fixed soon as much as possible. Yeah, we're thinking of you. Merry Christmas to you and your family. And it's an honor to know we could be there for you when you need us. and hopefully there'll be more stupidity in the future. The show will get better, I promise.

Well, see, but that's almost impossible to go the other way at this point in it. So it's got to get better. Things can only get better. Who did that? Things can only get better. Some new wave pop. Help me. What was the song you were just telling me that you hate more than anything else

and I'd never heard her from 82? Oh, I love a rainy night. What? okay, you're the music expert. I'm just telling you in the fall of 1982, Eddie Rabbit, I love a rainy night, I love a rainy night, I love to hear the music, the lightning, it's lights up the sky,

and all this bullshit. This fucking country was taking over pop radio and everything. And that's all that they played on any radio station anywhere, especially in Tennessee. And I was telling you before we went on the air that that coincided the first three months that I was in the business on the road full-time, like 10 weeks out of that on Friday, I was in Tupelo, Mississippi,

and nine out of those 10 weeks, it rained, and I was driving through a goddamn rain, thunderstorm, lightning in the middle of goddamn nowhere, Mississippi, trying to get to Tupelo on time for the show. And I'm, I love a rainy night. I'm like, fuck you. God damn it, I hate the fucking rain. Why'd you remind me of that?

It's raining here today. But it's day. It's a rainy day. Okay. Now there, then the cow seals can come in, and it's a little bit more fucking pleasing. Never let look them up, kids, the cow sills. You'd be surprised. What I was trying to say to you.

You'll be surprised. What does that mean? You'll be surprised. Well, they were very groundbreaking, and nobody talks about the cow sills anymore. when they talk about the partridge families of the world and the things like that. That's what they had the partridge family were based on them. Yeah, and the rain, the park, and other things. Who wrote it?

I saw it standing in the rain. Who wrote it? Ah, she can make me happy. I don't know. Artie Cornfield wrote it. Artie was, I think, the youngest vice president of rock and roll at one point. He was one of the four partners in Woodstock. and he is quite a trip on social media nowadays.

I already wrote that song. I can't tell you how much of a letdown that reveal was. I was thinking, oh, it was Neil Diamond right before he wrote the fucking monkey's hit or some person that the average son of a bitch might recognize. I gave you a good trivia. It was a good trivia question. Your friend, Marty Cornfeld.

I don't know if I'd say he's my friend. I'd met him a few times, but I don't know the guy. Well, I'm going to talk to Marty. and see what he thinks about you before we go any further. I knew Michael Lang. Hold on, let me get him on the phone. Michael Lang was a very nice guy. I've got an update.

Brian, on what we were talking about when Steve Regal passed away, well, I can't say when he passed away a few weeks, when we found out that Mr. Electricity, Steve Regal, the Indianapolis, Steve Regal, not Lord William Regal again, but we found out that he had passed away over the summertime sometime, but we just found out about a couple weeks ago. We talked about his career. And we mentioned that when he and Jimmy Garvin as a team were the ones who

dethroned the road warriors for the AWA World Tag Team Championship, when Road Warriors were leaving to come mostly full time for Crockett. and then they both within approximately the same time frame, Regal and Garvin both left the AWA and there was a what a lot of people have called a phantom title switch to oh god damn it, Scott Hall and Kurt Henning. But maybe the match didn't happen. Maybe the match did happen.

Have you seen that were you included on this email from from max i believe i what hello tamale he's a frequent guest on john macdammaly yeah he's been he says stick the rest no now hold on a second he says an occasional guest of john macadams don't well he's done a great job label him frequent he's done a great job he knows his stuff i'll say that okay but he's it don't don't say he's frequently on he'll occasionally drop in but don't accuse him of being frequently on for heaven's saying i apologize profusely So he says, oh, Max Tamale, Kurt Hitting and Scott Hall beating Jimmy Garvin and Steve Regal for the AWA World Tag Team title in Albuquerque, New Mexico on January 18,

1986 has long been considered a phantom title switch. However, that match might have actually happened. The card did happen on that date in Albuquerque. Here's what was advertised for the AWA in Albuquerque. January 18, 1986. And then I got a funny story. This is why I'm actually bringing this up because this popped me even bigger than the match may have happened.

The opening match was going to be Jackson Cromwell Brody versus Hillbilly Tudor. More on this in a minute. The Mongolian stomper who was there briefly in the AWA at that time period, against Mike Cook, Scott Hall versus Boris Zirkoff, Nick Bockwinkle versus Larry's Bisco, Garvin and Regal versus Buck Zumhoff and Leon White, and Stan Hanson versus Crusher Blackwell.

And he goes on to say, Brody, Tudor, and Cook were local indie wrestlers. Either Tudor or Brody had the promotional license and ring that were used that night. However, he goes on to say, Regal Garvin and Hall were all billed as appearing. Also, all three plus Hinnig were on the previous evenings card in Denver on January 17. Henig, Hall, and Zumhoff lost to Stomper, Zukoff, and Nord the Barbarian.

So basically, he says, Hiddig wasn't announced for Albuquerque, but by this point, what the AWA announced of what it actually presented were very often different things. Yeah. It's reasonable to think that Hennig was in. in New Mexico that night, and that a title switch happened after Regal said he was leaving, which Regal was going to world class, and he popped through there before he came to Charlotte.

And Max says Garvin stayed a little longer and made at least one more TV taping for the AWA before going to Charlotte. So this is not proof, but it's evidence. And he asked, did Regal Hall or Henig ever comment about it in their lifetimes. As anyone ever asked Garvin about it, I haven't watched all the shoots that they might have done,

but one would think if they had that we wouldn't still be asking this, would we? Yeah, and you have to think there was someone who was there that night. I mean, they sold tickets. It may not have been a great amount for Albuquerque, AWA in 86, but there were people there. If there was a tag title change, someone would have said something. But he's right about one of the big things there.

and it started hurting Vern when Hogan left, but it got worse and it got at times, I don't know if it was intentionally done, but it seemed like it, billing things and people that weren't going to be on shows. With Hogan, it was accidental. Vince McMahon stole him. He no-showed all those shows.

Well, and then it was on purpose when they found out and kept advertising, but I get your lift. Yeah, but I'm saying the AWA, that's one of those things that I think began to hurt it more and more because they were a disorganized organization with a small office run by Vern. Well, and that's the thing is that sometimes it, you know,

very well could have been malicious, but oftentimes it was just Keystone cops. We don't know what the fuck we're going to be doing from time to time and it was falling apart or whatever. So we don't know, but Hillbilly Tudor, Brian, I may have one that you haven't heard. I've told this on a shoot interview 20 years ago somewhere. But this was in January 1986, this AWA show.

Well, when I managed Dick Murdoch in the, actually with him two different times, once at 87 and then some in 87 into 88 and it a little bit 89 or whatever, but nevertheless, it was sometime in 1987 that Crockett went to Albuquerque and ran the tingly Coliseum. I remember like it was yesterday. And the guys, we were on our way to, Crocett was getting, he was trying to run Los Angeles at that point. It was, you know, had run there a few times and we went to San Francisco, whatever the fuck. We're in Albuquerque, and they didn't fly. everybody out there because it was still being run like a business in those days.

I can't remember which specific show this was. It was at the Road Wars versus Midnight Express or whatever the fuck. And there's Dusty and there's Flares. So they've got four or five matches and they put local guys on a car. Well, it just so happened at Dick Murdoch was the odd guy that ended up working with a local guy. and of course Murdoch can work with anybody right and I'm going out with him and then I've got to come back out later on

one of the main events with the midnight against whoever the fuck it may be and so we look at the lineup thing and he's working with they didn't call him hillbilly tutor it was slim the hillbilly I think this was another example of Dusty maybe or somebody

said the we willy will Wilkins thing. Whereas like, no, you're not Blue Thunder, you're Wee Willie Wilkins. Well, no, you're not Hillbilly Tudor. They called him slim because this guy was like six foot three and 320 pounds, but he looked like a miniature little John Harris. All of it, a big bulb of stomach and just pimply face.

And I get the impression of him is just with a fucking straw. stuck out of his fucking face. Just the classic hillbilly caricature. And there's yeah, you guys just go about eight minutes, right? Dick, he's like, all right.

You know, we'll get eight minutes out of it. And the guy is just okay, yes, sir, Mr. Murdoch, whatever. No conversation. It wasn't like Dick was going to call a match to this guy in the back, right? So we get out. there and Dick locks up with him and he has a guy do maybe a headlock or it tackles

if he takes a bump. He's doing Dick's Murdoch stuff, right, to put the guy over without the guy having to do anything. And then suddenly the guy rolls as Dick has sold something and, you know, a tackle or whatever and he's in the corner and I'm pounding on the mat and I'm like, oh, Dick, the guy rolls out of the ring and comes around the ring post and is walking straight toward me. And I'm like, what the fuck is he doing? And he walks right up and grabs my tennis racket and starts trying to take it away from me.

And I said, what the fuck are you doing? And I'm not going to give it to him, right? And the thing is, I'm surprised because he is like 6-3 or whatever. I was a little tubby at that point. but he's got 80 pounds on me he can't get it i ain't going to give it to him and he can't get it and the crowd starts popping a little bit because and i look and there's murdock and even though he could make those faces like he you know was insane you could see if he was enjoying something from his cheeks and a twinkle in his eye and he was wanting to see how this fucking

thing came out right because it's dead even i ain't given an inch and he won't let go and finally he's like i'll fucking and he's got to roll out and he just blisters a fucking guy and throws him in the ring and just bam bam and drops elbow on him and does whatever fuck he does and just beats him right and he came over to I raised his hand up like what was he fucking doing he said I don't fucking know right so we get in the back first and then this guy comes in the curtain I said what were you fucking doing he said I just thought I don't know what he was

saying right he was going to get the I think his family was there. That was one thing that was mentioned by somebody as his family was there, and he got the idea he'd take my racket and scare me or chase me or whatever. I said, look, you fucking moron, nobody called for you to fucking chase me,

take my gimmick away or anything else. I got to go back in the fucking main event with the fucking tag team champions or whatever, and you're out here, you're in the ring with a fucking legend, and one of the best workers in the world who is graciously offered to go eight minutes with your fat ass before he beat you. And you fucked that up. You went into business for yourself.

You try to get my gimmick away and couldn't so you're fucking buried. And then he just has to beat you because what the fuck's he going to do now? You've changed the fucking mood. So we didn't even get the time. Dumb shit. and we just, well, then that's the last I've seen or heard of the hillbilly in Albuquerque until he was on this fucking card. And you think it's the same guy? It's got to be.

Because either Tudor or Brody had the promotional license and ring that were used at night. How many big fat, fat, fucking hillbillies that would be named Tudor or Slim, would be booked in two major cards in a fucking same town, they had the ring or the license. How many times did that ever happen where you were booked against someone who you never really worked with before and you didn't arrange anything and all of a sudden they start coming for you and they have an idea in their head about something they're going to do? I'm trying to think if that may be, it had been the only time necessarily. How are we talking about Buzz saw your potato in your face?

Right. Right. That's different. But no, that's the thing. it's not about did we have it set up beforehand it's about is it is it applicable does it have its place a lot of times the boys would call you know drop down dive out chase corny without me knowing it it might give me the fucking you know iggy by giving me the aisle like here he comes or whatever but i i know what's happening when it's being set up i see it ahead of time so i'm ready for it. But it's about

you don't know some fucking local guy working with one of the biggest stars in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Burdock, West Texas territory, working with a goddamn legend

with the fucking top manager on national television who is going back out in a main event just doesn't go into business for himself and go after the goddamn manager.

That's bullshit indie stuff. There's levels to this, as the kids say. So no, because we were always working either with top guys where it wasn't any big deal for them to stomp my hand or chase me around or fucking play tug-of-war with me or whatever the fuck. And this is entertaining spots for the audience or it was guys that knew not to fuck with me because

they weren't at that level yet, and they'd just get heat on themselves with the Booker or anybody else. Or like, remember when the new breed flip Bubba Rogers' hat off at that spot show, and I had to have him beat them both up and throw them out of the ring before they started the match so that we could then beat them.

But that was another, it wasn't me, but it was Bubba, but that was not their place. So in proper, professionally, organized promotions, the pecking order of guys to the fans was protected so that they would see who the top guys were. Anyway, hillbilly tutor, I wish him well. It's been almost 40 years, my God, the physical state of him, then he can't still be alive.

But if he is, maybe his friends will tell him what a dipshit he was that night. Speaking of dipshits, can we talk about this now, Brian, because I gave myself a a Christmas present this past week and didn't even realize I was doing it. And, well, I shouldn't say gave it to myself. I enabled someone else to give it to me. Suck it to me, baby. But I pleased myself because I fired people up on Twitter again this past week. And, well, actually, it was just about 48 hours ago this whole thing started.

And we had, you and I had covered the news about Mick Foley. saying that he was not going to renew his contract and that he was withdrawing from making any appearances on behalf of the company while I believe the quote was they were coddling the current presidential administration. Was coddling the word that they are coddles? Which tense was he using? I don't remember.

Nevertheless. Coddling, I believe. Coddling. Well, whatever. But nevertheless, we covered that. because it came up as we were actually recording the last program, but we did. And then when we got finished, doing the show, I was looking through Twitter and because this not only made the wrestling sites about Mick, but made the mainstream sites,

whether it be Sports Illustrated or people or the TMZs, the world, whatever, everybody's on this thing. And I'm looking through some of those media outlets that have covered, and blah, blah, blah, on Twitter, and I see this one fucking guy, right? I don't know why. He's got one of the check marks, so I guess that's why I was able to see. But he says, McFoly is known for taking more hits to the head than any pro wrestler, and Mick Foley is also the most liberal pro wrestler.

So draw your own conclusions. And who is this fucking guy that he's going to talk about Mick? who actually has the goddamn, because that's, when I tweeted, also at this same time, I just tweeted congratulations to Mick and that I admired him and that I wished all the boys had his backbone

and his morals. I got like 40,000 of the fucking little hearts that the kids like. And so apparently a lot of people agreed with it. But this fucking guy, so when he says, draw your own conclusions about Mick's, brain damage, I wrote him back.

My conclusion is he's smarter than your entire weirdo, fascist fucking cult and as principals. Imagine how damaged your brains must be to still believe the depth of depravity and bullshit you have mired yourself in. Now, see, I thought that was pretty, because I didn't hardly cuss at all. Is bullshit still a cuss word, Brian? I don't know. I just saw Congressman Michael Allger say it on CNN, like once an hour,

every hour the other day. So you're allowed to say it on the news at least now. So I see, I didn't even use the profanity, right? And then I do as I usually do. We finish recording. I get off fucking Twitter. I went down. I started unpacking the Christmas decorations, right?

And I don't know whether it was later that night or even, it might have been first thing next morning when I got up. I turned the Twitter on. and Jesus it's just flooded thousands and there's people fucking maligning me and there's people arguing

with the people maligning me and blah blah blah and I've been spammed by the I got the bots out again is what I'd remember when I do something that apparently attracts a certain level of attention I get the bots but

in this particular case the one guy that I had replied to apparently is one of the fucking, he's not like, he's not a main piss boy. He's not a main piss carrier where he gets to drink it. He just gets to hold the maggot piss to keep it warm. But he is one of the main Twitter guys for the maggot world. And he has sicked the rest of his bots and various assholes on me.

You know, you can tell the right wing. I don't know whether they're actually real people, but there's somebody behind them, but they've got Patriot in their name and flag in their thing, and they follow 17,000 people. It's not even like the ones with the lots of numbers where they just make up like a bunch of accounts with 14 fucking followers or whatever.

This is the heavy duty stuff where they, they all get together and they say the same thing. Complete bullshit, but it's, it's the same thing. And because they follow all these people and these people are gullible and they think they're real or they think they don't have fucking ulterior motives, they think it's a bunch of people saying that shit, it must be real. Oh, my God. Brian, his name is Jack.

possobiate possebic and might as well just say piss boy but he's the pizza gate guy he is one of the primary guys that convinced people that Hillary Clinton was running a pedophile ring in the basement of the pizza parlor in new jersey Oh, get out of here. That was years ago. This is the guy behind it? I swear to God, look him up if you want to. I don't know how to. I don't want to.

I'm still not sure exactly how you spell it or say. I've never heard his name out loud. I'd never heard. I thought he was some random guy on the fucking Twitter, right? He's one of the random guys on the Twitter. And he is, again, he's AIed because we don't coexist in the same social circles, right? right, as me and Jack Pissboy. So he doesn't know what to say about me.

So he's a-eyed like insults or whatever, I guess. And so it's either a 35-year-old VHS of me using inappropriate language in a parking lot while discussing a fight I was in, or the same shit that the cosplay wrestlers tried to do four or five years ago when they tried to meet, me too. And boy, that turned out, well, everybody ended up going underground

or being canceled themselves for being sex pests that was trying to fucking pin all this shit on the Cornett family. And he tried to insult Stacy, but he called her the wrong name. You know, I did see that. Someone sent me that there, like, how come you've never talked about Jim's wife, Janice? And I was like, who?

I don't know who. who that is. Well, also, because they're also trying to, they're hitting me with the, oh, you've had too many steroids. Or I saw one guy said, you've taken too many guitar shots to the head. Like, they thought, okay, wrestling guy.

What can we say about wrestling guy? Because I'm a noted steroid abuser. One DDT, too many. Oh, yeah. You know, I've been noted for my string of concussions. But that's the thing is, It exposes again what a, I'll get back to Piss Boy in a second, but just this whole framework of shenanigans they've got going on.

It exposes what a scam it is because suddenly these supposed just real people living their lives have to jump in en masse to slander anyone who has the opposing viewpoint from the orange hobgoblin and or his minions. And it's because of Piss Boy, that, and his ilk, as Mama Cornett used to say, that people do this because they just flood the, what do you hear this guy's resume? They flood the airwaves with just this bullshit.

And if enough people or alleged people repeated over and over than these gullible people that want or that want to believe this shit anyway, they get swept up in it. But apparently this guy went on some kind of string. He did several things. He tried to insult me and he got all his minions to retweet the same stuff, but also he wants to debate me in Phoenix.

Apparently, they've got something like I don't know the gathering of the juggalo's but they do it in Phoenix I don't know what the fuck it is but what is it with all these they want to debate you how can you debate somebody that speaks like they're on fucking hallucinogenic drugs wait here's the the pizza parlor debate okay uh jack busboy your opportunity yeah I believe that Hillary Clinton is operating a child pedophile ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor in New Jersey. And Mr. Cornett, the opposing viewpoint. No, she's not.

How is there more debate? You can't debate these people because it's not rooted in reality. And they will not admit it. And so at any rate, he wanted to debate me. He said he would. here's how closely he knows me, as I said we travel in many of the same circles. He'd offer to pay for my plane tickets. Like anybody'd ever get me on a fucking plane.

Because he knows I've been broke since the 90s. Where's he getting all this information? Is he talking to Janus? I don't know. Yeah, barely the barbed wire bat. Fucking Janice Cornett always causing trouble. So when I read this, I thought, okay, I still, I've never heard yet anybody say this guy's name out loud.

And so I don't, I'm, I'm not going to be an ignorant idiot like he is. I'm going to go to more learned people for my rebuttals and or comebacks. I'm going to ask the cult of Cornette. So I asked basically in a tweet, as a kid, cult is fucking turd blossom, has a problem with me and Mick Foley, not like in his, you know, President Schittler, whatever, can you please tell me what's wrong with him so that I can pass it along to it?

Everybody, everybody had a goddamn different fucking complaint about this guy that responded. Again, there were some of the right-winger's that were still limping through, but mostly it was like a rib because I'm like, wait a minute, is this the same guy? or anything I'm talking about a different guy here.

Would you like to hear some of the resume of the guy that's telling me and Mick Foley that we need to modify our behavior? Yeah, because actually I don't know who this guy is. I saw you were having this fight. Some of the listeners sent over the Janus tweet because I thought it was funny.

But I don't know who other than the Pizza Gate thing, which again, I didn't know his name was associated with it. I don't know who this is. See, this, and that's why I say this is a Christmas present to me that he has given me because all this time He gets his message out. He does these things. He drums up his own publicity.

You'll see her in a second. He does fake shit to get reactions out of people, whatever. But he's one of the big ones. You know that Trump himself listens to this guy because he's saying good things about him. And the easiest way to circumcise Donald Trump would be to kick one of these fucking guys in a chin. So basically, because he has now magnified my message to the real, hardcore, maggot audience,

there is not only do they know what I think of them, but there is a good chance that Donald Trump himself knows that Jim Cornett thinks he's a piece of shit. And this is the greatest thing it has ever happened to me, I'm telling you. But listen to this, this guy that's telling me what we all need to do. and you can go on the internet, internet, Jack Posabec, whatever the fuck, it'll pop up. The variety of news outlets

have reported on his outrageous conduct. He's been called, labeled, or accused of being a white supremacist, an anti-Semitic, a neo-Nazi, a Christian nationalist. He's definitely a noted liar. He told people that the 2020 election was stolen. He was one of those people. He was one of the main proponents of PizzaGate.

And then when a guy went in and shot the place up, he tried to backpedal. He's been called a potential Russian asset or propagandist. I'm telling you, because of you, go read all this in detail. listen to you what the internet's saying. I'm reporting on what people are saying about this son of a bitch.

He was in a Navy, but he's an ex-Navy guy, and they suspended his security clearance. When? When he was in the Navy or after he left the Navy? Well, as a number of years ago when he started, I guess,

doing all this nutty shit. And basically, the whole thing is the pattern, he's a right-wing attention whore that starts trouble in public places sticks himself in the middle of stuff that doesn't concern him and tries to act like he's important to ride the gravy train of all the grifters that have sprung up to support

the Mango Mussolini and the whole criminal regime they've got going and that's they have suckered people into believing not even Republican bullshit anymore. I insult the Republicans by the maggot bullshit, the Trump bullshit. he's on a couple of lists of extremists I think one with the Southern Poverty Law Center for fuck's sake because he's had ties to the proud boys and the oath keepers

he praised the January 6th insurrectionists Philadelphia magazine called him the king of fake news I'm not made I'm again I've just compiled this this is a hell of a list of accolades here this is not exactly you know Oh, yeah, it was a concerted attempt by two guys in their basement to slander me. No, this is everybody, every time that he reveals his public statements, deeds, words, or actions, he has offended somebody.

And he apparently cheated on his wife on Bumble. Do you have any idea what the fuck Bumble might be? I think it's like a dating site or a dating app. Somebody tweeted me his picture of him with his cell phone, taking a picture of him in the mirror with a thing that said to Bumble and whatever the fuck. But he's like the Dan Aykroyd skit, Saturday Night Live. I've mentioned it's one of my favorites where Akroyd is the talk show host. It wants to be controversial.

The name of the show is talk back. Call 5551-2-1-2 and talk back to me. And then they sit and stare and a phone doesn't ring. And then he says something else a little bit more inflammatory, maybe of a political nature. and talk back to me and nothing. And then he escalates at a notch on some capital punishment and the phone rings

and it's a goddamn wrong number. And then finally he says, killing puppies, I'm for it. That's all these fucking idiots are doing. They'd be nobody except they've hooked their wagons to this grifting gravy train. And they're helping poison our country, which obviously,

at this point, I think there should be a water advisory, don't drink the shit all over the country now, our well has been poisoned to this extent, but they're all in on it. And I, after a day or so, I tweeted him back, thank you. Because again, now

I can at least believe when I lay my head down at night that that pig-faced criminal piece of shit that should be rotting in jail, but for this whole disinformation campaign knows that I see through his bullshit. That's the best Christmas present that anybody ever gave me and I don't want or care for any of these people that he is summoned upon me to be my audience,

but I do appreciate the hatred and vitriol because again, if these, people don't like me, I'm doing something right. I'm telling the truth and doing the right thing, like McFoley, unlike you and your ilk. I don't need to blame the immigrants or the minorities or the gay people or the trans people or the Democrats or the fucking Polish people or anybody else for being a failure and a loser and a liar and a grifter like you and your cronies have cornered the market on you keep carrying the piss i'll stick to sprite zero thank you very much piss boy should we call for him if we need him i think he's off of me now because a bunch of

people who tweeted him the sean walton rule and since apparently he's dug in at least far enough to know that I don't freak out when people talk mean about me on Twitter. He won't, it was like 15 the first day and then he just won't get back. Do you think our relationship is over, Brian? I don't know, because you really wonder how self-aware he is or isn't. Obviously, not limited to whoever this person is and I don't know, I'm assuming they create content or do something like that, but there's an entire industry of people who create content and say things they know or think are wrong, but they also know where the money is. You know, there's a lot of crackpot radio host podcasters that if they came out and said, you know what, I've been

misled, or I told you the wrong thing, or you know what, some of the stuff I've been saying is really stupid because I realize I can manipulate all you. Now, please listen to my sponsor, who will sell you seeds, so replant life when everything end. I just, it's all a fucking bullshit factory. And, you know, it kind of says something. He exposes himself when he's clearly looking for attention from you. He's looking for some kind of online fight from you. But he also has no idea who you are.

And when he's trying to fight back, if he's giving you facts that are completely wrong and made up like Jim's wife. Janice, I've heard people insult Jim for years. I've never heard that. So if that's what he's doing to Jim, what else is he completely bat-shit wrong about just because he's looking for attention momentarily,

whoever this is? Well, again, if you go on, I guess he probably even has a staff also, and that's why I said I think he AIed some of the insult or just the Google search, whatever is that they do, and whatever's top four things on the internet comes up or something.

But if you go to any his Wikipedia or any of these online articles about him, you'll go through 15 paragraphs of shit that he is made up or lied about or controversies he's inserted himself in or the whole right wing thing. And I guess this thing in Phoenix is where they have a bunch of the really maybe is it an outlaw right-wing thing where they don't have the like the really major stars but just a bunch of these YouTubers and shitsters but they they live in that world somehow and they have staffs that spread out and try to tamp down any dissent on the social media where they I guess they can get the teenagers I don't know

but again, I appreciate the attention for that audience because it opens up a whole new world, Jack, to exactly what I think of them. And I just, I wish that I had more, more personal insults to give. But when you look at this fucking guy's resume, my God, it's like, I'd be like kicking a dead horse in a desert if I start personally insulting him. after everything else that everybody has said on the internet. He makes Heyman sound like a goddamn guy with his hand on a Bible. I guess you won't be going to Albuquerque. Or not Albuquerque, where was it?

No, Phoenix. Albuquerque is where the AWA tag team taught, yes. We'll send Hillbilly Tudor. That's right. Illbilly Tudor. He sounded like he'd get over with that crowd. But anyway, we'll keep everybody up to date if I've inflamed any more of the fucking lunatics. but again, and one more bravo for Mick Foley.

But I guess we should switch now to some modern wrestling action, Brian, because I don't even, I didn't jot down their names. It's just so preposterous that it happened. But basically the other night on NXT television, the women's title changed hands, even though they didn't really want it to or plan for it to. It just did somehow. Like, it just, it was gone.

And it's gone. They changed the belt, especially on a show before Christmas, where they'd already taped stuff through the holiday break. And the girl challenging the championess. Is that how you say it, championous? And you do know the champion. The champion was Blake Monroe, aka Maria May from AEW. There you go.

Oh, oh, Maria May from AEW. Blake Monroe who they're pushing to try to be a star. I haven't actually heard it's working out real well. But what's the other guy, Thea Hale? Thea Hall, apparently. Thea Hall. Oh, it is Hale.

Oh, it is Hale. Oh, it is Hale. Now you change your story. Try to make me see. I've never seen this person. Campaign of disinformation trying to make me look. The eye looks like an L. They're next to each other.

Uh-huh. Yeah, put your glasses on, Paul. Anyway, way, Thea Hale came down like a whole goddamn thunderstorm on Blake Monroe and just squashed her and beat her. One, two, three for the women's title, and they've had to just change all of their shit, and they got mad, and they've instituted new policies. I thought we'd just conversate about this for a second. Because I, again, don't understand how these things happen. I watched the move in question, and when Blake Monroe was laying in the middle of the ring,

waiting for the move to be delivered upon her, Brian, would you say it was a fair description when I say that old Thea Hall jumped up on a second rope, I believe it was, and sprung backwards, and instead of a splash where you splash somebody with your stomach, she's splashing with her back. Would that give everybody the mental picture properly?

I guess that's a, yeah, I guess that's the way to describe it. And she landed on old Blake Monroe as stiff as a goddamn blue vein throbber on 150 milligrams of Viagra. She, what the, she landed on this girl, whom, with her entire. body weight and her feet were up in the air and then when her when she finally came to some rest on the mat i i can't remember whether she hooked one of blake's legs or not but she was grabbing she was hooking for the because it was supposed to be a false finish and she hooked it up enough that between the fact that she had just knocked the breath out of blake monroe and then she kind of hooked her the referees have been told to count it as a shoot and they're

counted it. One, two, three. And also, it, again, somebody said that it looked like Blake still tried to struggle to get her shoulder up. I don't. It's close enough for rock and roll, but, Jesus Christ, how do they keep doing this shit? And we've just seen a series of things over the last year where the referees had to stop

a three count because the person didn't kick out. I think it was, was a nai. Jacks and Jay, I forget who it was. It was one time in AEW was one time in WW where the referee stopped. Here, the referee didn't stop.

You could argue she got her shoulder up. It looked like she tried to do something. Well, but at the same point, I'm not blaming the referee here. And I'm not blaming the unconscious victim. In this case, I swear to God, I don't care how green you are

you ought to know when you have landed on somebody in altogether too forceful fucking manner. I've done it a time or two 35 years ago and all of those crazy six-man tags and things involving where I try to do something and somebody boom and oh shit. And it's been done to me a time or two.

And I don't know this could have been avoided instead of sticking exactly to the script or to the plan that they had laid out if when Thea came off the ropes and landed with all her weight on that fucking girl hard enough to knock the breath out of her that instead of just immediately scrambling her up

for a fucking cover and a pen because that was what the spot that was called she might sit up and gloat for a susset for a sussie. second like oh i just did that and turn around and look over her shoulder and see if her opponent still breathing and then she might have turned over and just covered her the other fucking way and she would have had a chance to say are you all right and the referee knows what the finish is supposed to be and that ain't it so the referee is going to be looking for a kickout so it wouldn't

take much effort for the girl on top to have helped Blake kick her off until she got her breath back. But instead, she didn't even look over her shoulder at that girl. She landed the fuck on top of her and hooked her leg up or head up or however she hooked her and just, she was still looking upwards away from the girl she was covering. So, Brian, have you ever? had, it's an old saying had the breath knocked out of you, but have you ever legitimately or the wind, have you ever legitimately had that happen to you?

I think so, yeah. You can't speak. Right. There's no way you can speak. You can't really get up. It's not that you're paralyzed, but you don't have the capability until you can rectify that situation and start breathing again to really do much. of anything.

But you would think that if she'd turned over and covered her, she'd tell by the look in her eye or the limpness in her body or whatever the fuck and go, oh, shit, okay, I'll do it roll up. But that's, to me, that's what I saw. I was just like, Jesus Christ, you didn't care, because they're just so used to potato in each other. And how many times do I talk about the matches that I do watch from either company? Oh, so and so just came on.

off the top and just landed square on so-and-so with their ass or their knees or their full body weight or whatever the fuck. I don't know how there's not more broken ribs, collapsed lungs, hernias. I could go on. I've never seen so many people landed on in 50 years of watching wrestling as I have the last two. But what are they going to do with the, oh, they changed the policy too, right, Brian? They're making them stately into the show. Oh, I hadn't heard that, have they? I believe that because apparently they stuff that creative had to hurry and scurry and, you know,

figure out to, oh, should we reshoot this or change this or is this going to work now? Oh, because they were about to do a holiday break, weren't they? Yes, yeah. And so they had stuff already done. And they had stuff. And they, They had to, I guess, pull shit that wasn't going to work or whatever, but now I guess they're going to have another match. And who knows they might do a flippity flop or they might try to swerve everybody and keep it on Theo, whatever the case. But they've also said that all the talent has to stay at the end of the show now.

I think they're mad because they could have reshot something after that happened, but whoever was in it had already left the building. but I don't know when that's it that used to be events thing long ago 30 years ago anyway on TV everybody stays till till the end of the show and in case you're needed for something and I've in the early years 93 94 I was at syndicated TVs at 1230 and fucking morning but what was it like before that like when you were Crockett or mid-south what was the rule in terms of when you could leave a show well was it just after your match you have the option to leave or what was it no with with with watts

he would every once while he would remind everybody that it was highly suggested that they stay and watch all the matches because if they were in the preliminary matches that's the way they would learn see what the main eventers are doing the main eventers watch the early matches so you don't do anything that's already been done in a goddamn match and your match. And there were exceptions for major names or people who had travel difficulties or whatever the case, but that

was the rule there. With Crockett, I mean, on the house show, and also with the house shows, the heels always stayed to help the top heels fight their way back through the crowd after the main event in Mid-South. With Crockett, you could leave if you weren't going to be needed or whatever house shows,

but there was really, you almost couldn't leave a Crockett TV. If you were a top guy before the thing was over with, they taped two one-hour shows and live to tape in real time. And we were on both of them, and by the time you change your clothes, the goddamn things over with. So I was just said,

it was always suggested that the underneath guys should stay to watch the main inventors and learn. And the main eventors were there, anyway. And with NXT, the best comparison may be OVW. What was your rule there? Oh, the same thing. You need to stay and watch what the fuck's going on for the reasons. If you're on first, you need to know what the guys on top are doing and vice versa. But again, we had to break that because sometimes guys that have to go to their real jobs waiting tables. So this was the early days. But you know what they ought to do, Brian, to prevent

the unscheduled title changes to keep that from happening. No, what's that? They ought to put a set of Raycon earbuds in all the guys and girls' ears when they go out there and they can tell them every move to make in real time, right as it was happening. Sort of like a wrestling version of Twister. They could just broadcast, okay, lift your left arm, place it over her right shoulder. and that way they could actually lead them through this thing, like leading a horse to water, but then not making them drink.

But what's all Breed have to do with this? What about the Raycons, Brian? Well, what about them? You think they could talk to them through the Raycons? Because we already established that those ones that go in your ear, they won't come out even if you're pile-dribed or drop-kicked or hip-tossed or body-slammed or suplexed or all kinds of stuff, even arm-dragged. And now the essential open earbuds are here for the holiday season

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As a matter of fact, she figured out a way where she could take four pair of earbuds, put them in various places on her body and have quadrophonic sound. That's not how that works. It's amazing. That would be amazing, but no, that's not how it works. The kids all over the neighborhood are coming over for the Christmas carols. They really want to see that. But folks, I'll tell you. Right now, the essential open earbuds are here for the holiday season.

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But right now, the essential open earbuds, 20% off this holiday season. Go to buy raycon.com slash JCE open. All righty, Brian. Well, now it's time for that recurring segment on the program that we call Comics Corner. because several people wrote when we were talking about Steve Jeppie and the museum he had in Baltimore with the incredible

multi-millions dollars worth of comic books alone and just this warehouse. It was packed floor to ceiling, four floors of movie posters and toys and every kind of pop culture thing in the world, right? And Lauren, Baltimore, Lauren, who we had read an email from, sent me another email and sent pictures of the place that she had taken. And I took a lot also when I was there, but apparently they changed things around.

They would move things and have new things come in. When I was there, the Detective 27 and action number one were right there in the case with the All-Star 4 and whatever. but she had pictures there was a sensation one and all these just incredible stuff right we were trying to figure out how this goof started working at a comic book shop became a multi-hundred millionaire

and had all this fucking money right and the only thing that we could agree on with anybody was this diamond comics distribution deal. Apparently, that's how he made all that fucking money. And we got an email from Jeff.

I don't know where he's from. He didn't say, but it was so detailed that, to be honest, that would be a separate podcast to read this and react to it, et cetera. But he tells the whole story, but our friend Mark Cole up in Maryland, who I used to live in Colorado,

but he moved. he sent a more digestible email about this, but Brian, this is basically how this guy made all these hundreds of millions of dollars. He said, Jeff, he started Diamond in the early 1980s to be one of the early comics direct market,

which had started in the late 1970s. So in the old days, and back when I started collecting, and Brown, I don't know, have you ever seen the old comic books where they would be sold or marketed or advertised, a back issue as three-quarter cover or two-third cover or even coverless? Yeah, I've seen that.

Where you'd see those. Of course. Well, when comic books were distributed through the newsstands and the stores that had magazine racks and et cetera, if they didn't sell, if the newsstand tore the masthead off or the logo over the cover and sent it back, they could get refunded for the goddamn comic book that didn't sell. And then they, you know, you could turn around and dump a box of those

or whatever, that's how they ended up in all the flea markets. But nevertheless, then this direct market for comics, this diamond distributor started distributing directly to all these new comic book specialty shops that were, popping up, but this was on a non-returnable basis. So basically, when comics shifted from being mainly a newsstand product with returnable stock to comic shops where stores bought their comics wholesale, they were non-returnable.

Throughout the 1980s, Diamond bought out other distributions and became one of, if not, the biggest distributor. In the mid-1990s, Marvel bought out a distributor called Heroes World and made their books exclusively through them. As retaliation, many other publishers signed an exclusive deal with Diamond, including D.C., Dark Horse, and Image. When Marvel went bankrupt in the late 90s,

they closed Heroes World, and they had to go back to Diamond. So this left Diamond with a near-monopoly in the distribution business, and once they had the near-monopoly, the company grew at a rapid rate. And apparently Mark worked at one of the early Jeppie's comic shops

in Delaware they were an early diamond account and the Jeppie knew the owners there but sounds like the Vince McMahon of comics distribution yes he just ran them all out of and then

there was also as as Jeff's email went into he was also buying and selling rare shit and with the stuff that he had I can't imagine what went through his hands with the selling. And then he's apparently, allegedly, as our friend Baltimore, Lauren says, donated much. Who knows if it's all of that collection to the Library of Congress for a big tax, not subsidy, but break, cut, whatever.

You see what I'm saying. Hundreds of millions of dollars from distributing comic books. And by the way, that's the company that went bankrupt. They had Diamond Select toys they were doing under that distribution plan, and they went bankrupt. Right now, they're in the middle of it. But I bet you that he still got all his personal money. I just bet.

And personal comics. All righty then. We also have an update from another one of the learned listeners. Remember this past summer when I took the trip to the, the Jack Feffer collection in Notre Dame with my old friend Tom Burke and his old friend Chris McMahon, no relation, and my older friend, Bobby Fulton, and all of us were old. And, you know, we had talked about some of that on the program, but there's a fellow named Corey Santos.

I think we've mentioned him before that is writing a biography of Jack Feffer. And I can't wait. and we will obviously keep the folks surprised on that. I can't wait till I get a chance to read it, but he gave me some incredible background. Chris McMahon did in an email based on this article that Corey has written about IT Flatto. And apparently I won't read the whole thing

because then again, this is a long historical document. But remember, we were making fun of his name, and I said, this must be some kind of gimmick guy that Pfeffer had dreamed up when I first saw the letters. And then we realized he was an attorney, did have an office, and he represented Pfeffer and a lot of stuff. And you had looked him up in conjunction with some real world business that he had been doing in New York

in the 30s and 40s. But Isaac Townsend Flatto was his real name son of German immigrants, and he started practicing law in New York as early as 197. And he, in the World War I, he was a local war effort, you know, mover and shaker. He was on the board of governors of the American Victory Union, a civic organization that included William Randolph Hearst. So he was a sort of. sports nut and that's how he came in contact with

Fever because he's the guy that built the Ridgewood Grove Arena, the new Ridgewood Grove Sporting Club to host boxing and wrestling and opened it in 1926. And remember we talked about the Johnston brothers that had the license for boxing and wrestling in Madison Square Garden or the family. There were brothers and other relations. He tried to get that in 1925.

And that's why he built Ridgewood Grove Arena. He built his own arena. So he controlled Ridgewood Grove. We've seen a ton of advertisements from wrestling there and the early television broadcast, Jamaica Arena.

They did television there as well, and the Dykeman Bowl. And then apparently he got sideways with Jack Curley when Curley was still alive, and that's what led him to start doing business with Jack Feffer, and he wanted to bring new blood into the wrestling business, and another guy that he made the director of his wrestling, I guess that was the title, but probably his booker, at one point at Ridgewood Grove, was Rudolph Miller, who would later on be the guy

that owned Pittsburgh, Rudy Miller, who would start Bruno Samertino. give him his first contract. Well, that was Jack Hurley's office. He had Jack Feffer and Rudy Miller in there. Those were his two guys. And then, of course, Fever broke away. And when did Fever break away in comparison to IT Flatto? Well, okay, in 1934, Corey Santos said,

when the newly founded Wrestling Trust dictated the terms of the sport in the city of New York, Flato balked, rejecting the status quo and putting his weight and pocket book behind Jack Feffer's lighter wrestlers and the fresh blood offered by Ohio's Al Haft. There you go. There you go. Yeah. And there you go. And he was, Flatto had stated he wanted to purchase arenas in both Los Angeles and Chicago

as part of a larger boxing wrestling empire, but that did not apparently come through. Apparently at a radio show just titled Sports. at 11.30 p.m. on WGBS Radio, which is now W-I-N-S-10-10. Oh, wow. Are you aware of this station? 10-10 wins. It used to be music, and then it became all news. He was also the protection that Feffer needed against an openly hostile New York State Athletic Commission.

Remember, we read some of those letters. Yeah. And they were antagonistic to Feffer since his ugly divorce from Ivan Pudni in 1927. they weren't pleased with his antics after he was excommunicated. So we got to research that a little bit more. But basically, Pfeffer not only got funding

from Flatto and his connections, but it was also, remember when Feffer put Flatto listed him on his draft card, which was the signal that he knew somebody and they should leave him, alone, Feffer was always scared of being identified as a communist, especially during and after World War II.

And since Flato was a judge and a lawyer, he was in the veterans organizations, he could keep people off of Feffer. But Feffer was in the same situation as Colonel Tom Parker when he managed Elvis. Feffer couldn't travel internationally or take a chance on getting arrested for the stuff he had done with the Russian grand opera company when he was with them or his questionable paperwork and flato and married a multimillionaire widow in 1940 you know feffer just loved that and apparently his wife was an L.A. socialite and he ran Ridgewood Grove throughout his life until dying of a heart attack in New York City on November 10, 1956. And

just to go to show you how people soon forget, nobody from the sporting world, which Flato had apparently devoted his life to, came to his funeral. Fever and a former secretary of the Athletic Commission in New York were the only ones there for a one-time titan in the city's sports scene. IT Flatto.

Wow. Brian, it's terrible how people just turn When you're gone, they just forget you. Where's his papers? You know, I mean, I'm sure probably tossed out or something if no one has them and they haven't turned up, but it just goes to show you how many important figures there are, outside of wrestling even, who interject with wrestling that we don't know anything about. You know, I would love to read more about IT.

I'd love to read a Jack Feffer book, don't get me wrong, but IT Flatow sounds fascinating. I guarantee you there is more paperwork documenting, the goings-on of IT Flatto and the Jack Feffer files that exist all together and the rest of the world put together. I'm sure. But anyway, well, Corey, after he finishes Feffer, he'll do Flatto. And then he can sell him as a combo, the Feffer and Flatto combo. All righty.

Anyway, somebody else is trying to sell us something, Brian. I'm not sure I'm buying it. Do you have, I asked you to see, if you could look up. What John Sina is saying about the finish of his match, that I know we've already talked about it, but now there's comments from John, and there's people trying to give it this cinematic,

deep meaning of the warrior realized that he had to let go and just he was content with his life. Or what the fuck is going on here? Is what I'm asking you? What are these people saying? They're trying to explain and justify the finish of the Sina Gungther match, which was obviously something worked on internally. And Sina, it seems like all the things that people didn't like over this pasture,

all Sina has done publicly is embrace it. Still, and this is no change right here. Well, but, I mean, since I heard what they're saying, I'm thinking, could this even have been John's idea because he has been in the motion picture industry for a while? But honest to God, it sounds like I loved Kevin Sullivan. But Kevin Sullivan sat and told me on Crocket's plane one night for about 45 minutes, the whole angle

and all the happenings and all the motivations and everything that everybody was going to do and say behind that. Remember that triple cage tower of doom thing they did in the, what was it, the summer of 88? Yeah. And not a lot of people like that thing. But the way he told it, it was the greatest wrestling angle I'd ever heard.

And I thought, if only we had just let Kevin Sullivan go out on TV for 45 minutes and explain it. Because it didn't get it when everybody else, or they didn't get it rather, when everybody else had to get involved. The point is, is this some grand idea that John had

for being artistic and deep and meaningful and cinematic and theatrical and thespianism and all that other stuff? And for a lot of people is just flattered

and fucking plateful of piss? I'm not exactly sure, but we have some quotes here. Apparently, seen it was on the Cody Rhodes podcast. Those

WWE podcasts are so funny whenever they plug it on raw it's like the same

rotating group of guests like Nick Con's on this show this week and

then a week later Nick Con's on this show and then a week later you'll

never guess who Stephanie's talking to to yeah we will it's the

same person I was on Cody's last month but anyway

Cody had seen it on and I have a quote here this was

transcribed by the Resc Observer newsletter for the last five

minutes everything I preach about story and drama and having a conversation with the audience, the ones I love are in the front row. I know my colleagues are watching on the monitor back there. We're just in a sleeperhold, man, but we're having the conversation with the audience, as I essentially take my last breath. Yeah, the audience was hoping he'd quit breathing earlier. Was that thunder?

Boy, it must be, I hear it behind you. Holy shit. All right, John, I take it back. You're finished. You finish is great. I love the match. Boy, I knew he had friends in high places. Jesus.

Let me get back to the quote here. That was very loud. John said, God has something to say about all this, apparently. As I essentially take my last breath, I have struggled. If you think of somebody, the natural causes scenario, or however we picture loss in our life. All of us have been through it. They struggle. They hang on just long enough to make sure to say goodbye to everyone that's been meaningful in their lives. And that whole day with so many unbelievable, vulnerable, meaningful conversations as the clouds literally open up around me and

rain comes pouring down. But back to the quote you. Then you realize I've connected with everybody I love. Physically, I feel great. I think it's time to take that last breath. And that's that. I hate to keep going back morbidly to obituaries, but like, this person died peacefully. Knowing that like, man, we are in a good place, we're going to be great going forward, the bottom of the t-shirt says, I gave everything, thank you for everything. And And in that one moment, that was that, going peacefully. So I guess he was smiling. I've been watching wrestling for 50 years.

I've never seen a great match where I could liken the finish to watching someone die. What is he, have they all gone, even John, gone just insane over the smell of their own methane farts? That that is a, no. If I'm going to have to watch a loved one die, I'd rather watch the loved one get run over by a fucking bus than die a slow agonizing death of a horrible, painful, cancerous disease. Just boom, power bomb, one, two, three, dominant, boom, there you go, instead of a five-minute sleeper.

where in wrestling terms, if that's equated to his real-life analogy, then about three minutes in, some of the fucking younger generation in the family was talking about plug-pulling. Yeah, let's just get it over with. It don't look like Gramps is going to kick out. What do you think just about what he's saying, though,

in the way he's saying it? And again, I'm sure him saying it is better than me reading it. but it's that Dwayne Johnson disease and trying to pretend like you're smarter than the moment artsy-fartcy artsy-fartsy

Sina doesn't talk like a real human being anything you ever see with him in the press it's I've said it before motivational posters but it's just he talks in a disingenuous kind of way he gets away with it

because he's such a nice guy but what does he say? He talks at a motivation kind of way, but it's no, it's just again, nobody wants to see the great wrestling star just give

up and just slip away. They want to see him go down fighting at least. And this, again, they've all convinced themselves that they're actors and their entertainers and their movie stars and their whatever

they're telling this deep and profound story of emotions. No, it's fucking wrestling. Either put the heel over by a fuck or let the baby face triumph in the end or goddamn something, but make it at least exciting.

And a five-minute struggle with a sleeper at the end of this thing was just the flattest fucking way to go to sleep. He put him to sleep. We can still wake him up. It's not permanent. But he didn't have to just,

it's time for me to go. I've done all I can do. At last, the end is near. And so I face the German sleeper. I've made all the money here that I'm going to make in this last year. some Austria. So now I'm just going to say, fuck the whole goddamn career

because I'm just going to tap with a silly smile and then I'm going to leave here. Again, Mr. Never gave. Mr. Never give up gave up. It's such a weird goodbye message to wrestling and the fans they're rejected it categorically.

Whether or not it's a big benefit to Gunther going forward? We'll see. But again, you kind of have a moment. It's a big benefit to Gunther. And I love the people saying, oh, he's got heat like the old days. He has more heat than anybody else around here does these days. But it's not heat like the old days. But still, it's positive for him.

Again, I'd hate to have been the people in the building at night, spend all that money. He didn't get as pissed off when you were just watching on TV as when you actually left your house in that weather to spend that account of money to go see that. but I wish they'd have made it more exciting. But, you know, ultimately they're just, they're trying to be way too theatrical

and impress people on how deep they think about this. And I think they're thinking too deep, at least in the hole they're putting their heads in, they've gone too deep with this one. That's just silliness to be... Did you see the scene of quotes? I'm reading it here. I'm looking at different articles.

The scene of quotes from the same conversation with Cody about the Travis Scott Rock disappearance? Oh, yeah. Which was kind of, again, you know, nothing, no details. Just, well, here we don't have them, and now we do. Well, we don't. Well, he's trying to make it sound like it wasn't a big deal. Neither he nor Rhodes wasted time dwelling on what could have been.

Here's the quote. Hey, you have the Rock and Travis Scott. Awesome, we can plan all this stuff. Hey, you don't have those two guys anymore. Not once in you and I, the whole world has had the conversation of what it would have been like, the two guys in it with their dick in the dirt, not once had a conversation about, man, what would it have been like if we had those guys? No, it was, what do we do now?

Let's walk down the hypothetical street. Let's say everyone who showed up at the chamber is active until August. That robs us of John Sina, Randy Orton. That robs us of John Sina, C.M. Punk. John Sina, Ron Sina. John Sina, A.J. Stiles. John Sina, Logan, Paul. Me and you for the last one.

So, yes, the story that might have been might have had star power and gravity, and who knows what. But what we got by just being like, these are the pieces left, what we got for me personally was beautiful. What is that? Was that Tony Kahn? Yeah, what is that?

I completely lost any thread of what to fuck through that whole thing. But that's because they're not allowed to say that Rock came in. and fucked shit up and then didn't want to do the shit they were left with when his rapper friend turned tail and took off or whatever and it screwed the whole thing up. So it's just, let's say a lot of words, and now we've answered the question.

Hey, one last thing, a weird question that I'm very serious about. Should John Cena and WWE payed a little bit of attention to what Tony Kahn did for Sting on the way out and the way he handled it? Forget about like the semantics of who was in the match or anything else. the spirit around that event and the feeling there. Should they have paid attention to that for this? Yeah.

I think that there was an element of Sting. The reason why I thought that they over gimmicked Sting's retirement was having them have the tag team titles when it happened. That was unnecessary. It was something that was forced into the thing. But literally everybody that came to Greensboro to see that, which was their biggest show of the year, I believe in terms of attendance or gate or whatever,

they wanted to see Sting win. They didn't want to see Sting lose. Sting was not going to, at that point, on that night, create a new superstar. Sometimes you've got to give the people what they want to see. And as I said, I think he could have done, if you tried, they had a year with John in singles matches, with all kinds of top talent to work with at his disposal,

they could have, I think, gotten heat on Gunther by, when they put the belt on John, instead of giving it back to Dominic, I know they think Gunther's above the Intercontinental title, but just done anything to put Gunther over and then still have a final match where he could go out in a more sunny situation, or even if they didn't want to do that

and they wanted Gunther to win his very last match, Sina's, then have an exciting finish. And Guntherd still have a lot of heat, but I wouldn't be bitching about the goddamn match so much. It wouldn't have the last five minutes just being immobile. I wouldn't as the last time you saw five minutes of a main event wrestling match with that much on the line

and they just lay in one place in the ring. Andre the Giant versus Big John Stud. With all due respect to both involved, I don't think that was as big as this was. And the ticket prices were a lot cheaper.

But anyway, again, I'm not saying don't have Gunther win. I'm not saying Guethor don't have him I'm not saying just make it exciting if that's what you wanted to do. That's the biggest problem I had with it

and the whole tapping thing with the profound deep emotional meaning, blah, it didn't work, it doesn't come across to people. They want to see boom, one, two, three, or oh my God, I can't breathe,

I'm unconscious or some type of urgent tap out because they're having a shit choked out of them, not like, oh, thank you, my friend. I'll just tap now anyhow what do I know Brian I'm only a successful

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It's already passed over you, right? It's a middle of December and you're in New Jersey and you're getting a severe thunderstorm warning. That's right. Hey, I have some breaking news. What is broken? This is pretty big. I just got a press release from AEW. AEW media sent it to me.

Hope you're sitting down, Jim. Well, I am, but would you like me to lay down? White Castle and All Elite Wrestling tag up for new AEW Bacon Brawl combo. Oh, good Lord. stars Tony Storm, Brody King, Bandito, Big Bill, Powerhouse Hobbs, and Darby Allen, if medically cleared, team up to promote new limited time combo available for purchase nationwide at White Castle locations starting December 27th. I can go on, but let me get your first thoughts here. Well, I'll tell you what, if this kind of is perfect synergy, the marketing campaign, the strategy,

because when you think of something that gives you an inordinate stomach pain, of feeling of bloatedness where you're emitting gaseous stentches from your body, you think of White Castle and watching AEW. Well, let's get some of the details here. White Castle, America's first fast food hamburger chain, and All-Eat Wrestling, one of the most dynamic brands in professional wrestling, today unveiled the AEW Bacon Brawl combo, available only for a limited time nationwide,

starting December 27th through January 31st, 2026. The two iconic brands are partnering once again, White Castle's Bringing the Bacon, and AEW is bringing the brawl for a high-impact, flavorful feast for Cravers and wrestling fans, exclusively available only at White Castle locations nationwide. The AEW Bacon Brawl combo features two White Castle bacon cheese sliders,

White Castle crinkle cut fries, and a drink, a combo worthy of a true champion's crave. What? Wait a minute, hold on. They didn't even include the explosive diarrhea. Amazing. Well, besides that, there is literally one. ounce of meat in each of each white castle so they're literally selling you two ounces of hamburger meat with a bunch of breads of potatoes and a goddamn syrupy sugar drink and white castle as you as you know is it's it's something that you you every once every five years you realize

oh man i haven't had white castle in ages i want to have some white castle and then you have it you realized why that it took you five years to want it again? Well, some more info here. I have a quote from the vice president at White Castle, Jamie Richardson. AEW and White Castle both know how to bring the intensity. And this combo delivers on every level. I'll tell you what, I almost never got rid of those hemorrhoids. That last one caused me.

The AEW bacon brawl combo is bold and built for fans who crave big flavor and big moments. Whether they're watching the action. And big shits. Whether they're watching the action or fueling up between matches. Or letting the fudge monkey out of his cage

or dropping the Browns off at the Super Bowl or firing off a chocolate rocket, whatever you might be doing. This collaboration will blend the bold flavor of light castle with the high intensity spirit of AEW, and will have extensive promotion across AEW platforms and select White Castle locations. Several stars, Time was Tony Storm, Brody King, Bandito, Big Bill, Powerhouse, Hobbs, and Darby Allen will appear across custom content promoting the AEW bacon brawl combo

on AEW programming, such as Dan. Wait a minute. I know Darby Allen's done some dangerous things before, but he's actually going to eat this shit on camera. White Castle will also support the promotion with in-restorant and exterior signage at over 300 locations nationwide, branded creative across digital and mobile channels, and organic social content that will also amplify posts from AEW talent. So there you go, big things happening. Fans can purchase a custom limited edition AEW White Castle Lucidore Mask

at shop AEW.com and Houseof Crave.com starting January 7th. It seems like it's it seems like if they're going to make a big deal out of it, the combo package needs to be a little better than just... Well, that's the thing.

You could literally be a vegetarian and eat that combo and not really have violated your principles. They're so small, but White Castle, 40 years ago, 50 years ago, White Castle was great because that was the only thing open to eat between 10 o'clock at night and six next morning. And I remember Uncle Tommy used to bring home a sack of White Castle's because in those days they were 19 cents apiece. My cousin Larry used to call them death burgers in a coffin. I admit that every once in a while, I'll say, God damn it, White Castle, boy.

and after I eat them and I feel like I've consumed a wet sponge and I think boy I used to be a lot younger but I never ate that stuff regularly and me eating fast food every day you can't it'll fucking it'll wrench your guts out and that's what it used to be open late and cheap and open on Christmas Day and whatever now while back a few years ago they had good fish nuggets believe it or not like around Easter time. I don't know how that came up, but they were also like $7 for an order while,

you know, the sliders are 69 cents or whatever they used to be. Boy, I'll tell you what, those arenas are certainly going to smell like rodeo barns. If this promotion is a success, can you imagine 4,000 people all together in the same building, that have all just eaten White Castle, I've got to turn everybody's skin brown. I haven't seen a white castle since I left Long Island. It was one on Sunrise Highway in Lindbrook, and every like five, 10 years or so,

you'd be like, go get that, it'll be late at night, and you'd regret it so badly. But it would taste good in the moment. It tastes really good in the moment. It goes down better than it fucking comes back up. But anyhow, well, good to know they got that going for them. I guess they did a TV show,

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Let me turn it up for you. See, now you'd, if you saw what I was doing, you'd know. All right, boy. before we ho, ho, ho on down our chimneys for the Christmas break, here on the experience, we are going to briefly cover the efforts of this past Wednesday night, December 17th, AEW Dynamite from Manchester, England. I wish Billy Robinson had shown up and just stretched everybody.

Brian, did you like the way they opened this program? Was this abrupt? They're really trying to nab the viewer at the start to the point where you think that there was some kind of network difficulty and they just cut into the show. But they started the program. As soon as they came up from Black, they rang the bell. Roderick Strong versus Moxley started and Sok Faye started talking like a meth addict. It's Wisdie Night and you know what that means?

Look at this match. We get this other match. Here's this match. What the, was it jarringly abrupt to you? or are you just used to these things now? When it comes to his commentary, I'm kind of used to it. I watch a lot of this stuff on mute because of him and Chivani specifically. But in terms of the match, it was the most abrupt beginning to an episode of dynamite,

and it's interesting because it was taped. It wasn't alive from Manchester. And they kept saying Manchester, like every fan must know that's England. Some fans are probably like, why do they keep talking about New Hampshire? Well, now it depends on where you live. Some people might say, why are they in Tennessee? But that's the other thing, the fact that they did the abrupt open on the show that was already in the can as of a few hours earlier. They go back and forth between, for whatever reason, Tony thinks, okay, we'll hook them this week, so they won't go anywhere.

We'll jump right into it. And then the next week, they will start with a three-minute backstage thing and then have a billboard for 26 different matches. it's it's all over the place but I he just makes up the show format each week depending on his whim and I'm not talking about changing the matches or the interviews I'm talking about how they actually do the television program and there's so you jumped right into this thing and again I love Roderick strong I think Moxley's worst wrestler in the world but the way that Roderick Strong has been presented, why do you really care?

It's a continental classic tournament match because Tony's stuck with that. He can't even have a regular single elimination tournament. He has to have this screwy Japanese-inspired round-robin gold block, blue block, and you end up with all these matches that just go on and on. and it's just for another belt in a place of where everybody's got a belt. So I didn't want to watch Moxley this close to Christmas as I was zipping through it.

I saw even in a tournament match where interference is barred because the plumber's in it, they've still got to fight in the back of the arena, and they've still got to be forever on the floor with no count out, and they've still got to do stupid bumps that take forever. to set up and require obvious cooperation. And it's a waste of Roddy's talent because he's still technically excellent and could be, at this point,

better used to get meaningful people over, but they go 20 minutes, and then I don't know what the fuck with the finish. Roddy's going for Moxley's leg to put him back in the crab or the sharpshooter, whatever the fuck. Moxley kicks Roddy off. He goes to the floor. He slides back in and Moxley hits his DDT out of nowhere.

And they both sell for a while and then Moxley covers two count. And then they both sell some more and Moxley picks him up and gives him a bigger double-armed DDT and covers him one, two, three. What the, he could have beat him with the DDT the first time. Why would... They've got to slow everything down at the end and then do it in an anticlimactic fashion. Did you understand that, or were you caring?

I hate the layout of almost every single John Moxley match I watch, and that includes the finishes. Yeah, I didn't... It wasn't a surprise who won. It was a surprise they went as long as they did. The match didn't end until, like, what, 20-something minutes into the show. Yeah. I mean, it went a long while.

And then, you know, I don't know, that's the thing in wrestling right now. Just the kind of fucking lame dick finish. Just a finish out of nowhere that isn't as exciting as the last one I saw, or you get choked out and you smile, or whatever it is. The second DDT looked better than the first one. If he'd had done that the first time and covered him and beat him, it would have been perfect. But instead, he hits him, boom, and then they sell, and then he covers him, and he kicks him, he kicks him up and does the same thing.

Did you see the Moxley promo later in the show in the back? No, I saw he was talking. That's why I didn't see it. But what, do you know what he said? You know, it's just a similar thought I had when watching the Adam Page swerve, Samoa Joe confrontation before MJF arrived. Just, there are people who think this guy is like the great talker. And his promo sucks.

That was my only thought. I was hoping you'd back it up because you're the expert. And I'm, you know, the same. Well, I usually back at it. That's why, well, you silly little thing, it's a silly little ghost. It's why I don't watch him anymore because it just drones on slobbering and sniffing and saying the same shit, the incomprehensible stuff. Nobody still understands what he was trying to save the company from or save it for himself

or save it from them or save who from what. and boy he had to make sure that they all bled to bring out the best in it what the fuck nobody knows it was gibberish to everybody except him in his head speaking of gibberish in people's heads is this million dollars brian that they keep putting up is that like the same million that they keep putting up because there's some people that win the million and then they're not involved in the next time the million's up and I'm just wondering, do those people get paid off

and bought out of their position or are they using a different million dollars? Or is it just a fucking duffel bag with a bunch of goddamn toilet paper shoved in it? Have they over-exposed a million dollars to a point where he doesn't mean as much as he used to when you only saw him once every... Actually, you never really saw him.

There was never any million-dollar match. Not in the last, 40 years ago. We saw a million-dollar matches. And now it's just nonstop. this feud over bags of money. So six-man tag for a million, one million dollars. Kenny and the Hardley

boys against Chichia and take a shit and oh boring. Again, didn't they do this before? But Alexander had won some money. At one point, I think. It's the same fucking guys, because these are the Friends section

and they all want to work with each other because they do the same shit all the time. So they did what they always do, and way too much of it. And it's especially obvious now. And even Aubrey-Ed later on in the girls' match, I'd notice this also, she's not even trying to go through the motions of refereeing

because when the girls just jump in without tagging or, oh, we got a spot coming up where it's two on one, so she'll just stand with that quizzical look like she can't figure out how many times to pound her hoof on the ground when you say what's three plus three. So they just do all the shit that they normally do. And then about 15, 16 minutes in, they tagged Kenny in with, oh, boring.

And remember, this is these people's dream conference. confrontation, a guy that, to be charitable, his better days are behind him versus a guy who, I don't know if he had better days at this point. You got one's fucking nearly crippled, the other one's asleep. And when Kenny and lazy boy get in the ring with each other, all the partners just got out on the floor and just stood there and stared at it. they could have, like, oh, the stage is theirs now. They're going to do a solo.

They can't even keep up the pretense of having a fucking match. They don't know how. And then, oh, boring and Kenny, they circle each other. They go head to head. They trash talk. And I swear to God, then they stood there and traded forearms and made funny faces. 16 forearms, a punch and a chop. Nobody took a bump.

Then they started a back and forth deal where they evaded each other's moves. And then all four other guys just ran it at 100 miles an hour and everybody did shit to each other. And a referee stood there slack jawed and through the... And it went minutes more after that. And finally, and... I haven't seen the recap yet, Brian, but is this what Uncle Dave calls one of the creative, innovative moves that all these chuckle fucks are known for? Kenny gets Chichia up for the one-winged fairy.

But then the Buccaroos line up and Nikki runs and cheerleader vaults over mass. and grabs Chia to go down with him when Kenny gives him the super fairy. One, two, three. What is the difference in this and cheerleading when they, every once while, punch each other? I can't answer that. I mean, my thought during this match, seeing Omega, seeing the Bucks, Okada, it was almost like slam-boree for this group of guys.

It's like they're all doing the same. shit they used to do, or at least what they do is the same shit they used to do. They can all do the same shit they used to do because we won't see them for a year. Yeah. Yeah. They'll disappear off TV for a while. But you know, there's a fan base that really loved that and invested in it years ago, and they're still into it. They get overlooked at it. It's like Richard Simmons against Perry Como. They can overlook that, but some of us can't. It hit me watching, Okada, he's like the pericomo of wrestling, he just stands there

and fucking doesn't do anything. You know what, to check and see whether he's submitting the referee ought to hold a mirror up to his mouth. And they did a bunch of the Okada to Keshta, again, they become mute. And they just get at each other's faces and no one could talk and also no one could do

anything. And the crowd for a large part of the match sat there and didn't make a sound. They pop for, like, the greatest hit spots, the same way you would. It's Slambery if, you know, like, one of the legends, all the... Oh, my God, Dory Fugs go for the toehold! Because that's what it is to these fans. They're seeing, like, the greatest hits.

But Omega looks rough, I'm telling you. I want to see him work a long singles match one time in the next year. Why? I gotta see it. Oh, good Lord. Well, anyways, back to this thing. so thanks are going to be going well you're welcome well you pissed me off earlier so the baby faces have won the thing well don's got the bag of million of a million

dollars and he tries to sneak out but the baby faces look like they're going to catch him but the heels jump the baby faces well can he rolled out i guess he can't take any big moves but oh boring and take a shit took turns laying out the buckaroos with their various big moves and then argued with each other until Kenny came in with a push broom and scared him off and Don forgot to take the money.

They left the money, the bag, sitting there. So, Brian, if you've got a million dollars, that you don't want to give up, are you going to forget, even though nobody's touched you to, you're just going to run off and leave it? Are you going to take it with you? Yeah, I would think you would take it with you.

Yeah. Well, he didn't. So the baby faces got the bag of a million dollars. We didn't see any of it, but they got the bag. How does that work for taxation? Because this transaction is happening in Manchester, not in the United States. how are they going to bring back that how does that work that's an idea or did they get like pounds and they're going to have to convert it what's the conversion rate did they get jacked on that

and i think there's a fee yeah this it's just so ridiculous that they can't even take their own program seriously and that tony is stuck tournament match put up money multiple man match and I don't know he's going to get any get out of this because his his booking for years has been bizarre but now this is it's just stuck anyway it's the talent though he's stuck with the talent he has

there's no we haven't seen any signs just because he doesn't have any stars doesn't mean he has to put a million dollars up in a match every week because his two goofy fucking EVPs have some ridiculous story that they think people give a shit about. That involves a million dollars because they lost all their money because they went to Vegas.

And Nick is obviously such a fucking horrible gambler. What the, it's just so stupid. So then we had the contract signing because Brian, they got a pay-per-view at about 10 days or so from this television show. And the world title is going to be on the, line and Tony has come up with the revolutionary idea where they're going to have a contract signing for a three-way for the world title.

Nobody's ever seen such a thing. It's been years, so naturally this is going to be a big deal. Hangnail Page, swerve, and Samoa Joe. And again, the same pattern. Well, now, these two guys are they going to be able to get along with the other guys the heel and blah blah blah this same fucking thing joe did a nice little promo signed contract swerve did a okay little promo signed a contract basically saying we both hate joe but we've got a grudging weird respect for each other you and me page after the blood drinking

and the baby terrorizing and the house burning and swerve showed that he's somewhat of a mark because, and actually it showed that the tiny little audience that A.E.W. has left now and how that only the most devoted are going, because he hit Joe with a knock or insult line on the fake tattoo that he had on his face in T&A in 2007. He didn't even say T&A. He just said that fake tattoo you had in 2007. and the people popped. Think how narrow casting they're going to appeal to the, well, I guess there was more people watching TNA in 2007 watching this show now.

More people in England liked it than more than people in America at different times. That's true. Yeah. But nevertheless, 20 years ago in another promotion. And he expects and was rewarded with the fact that these are the, so devoted marks that they will react to that obscure a line. They don't get their own show over because they're all marks for they think that everybody remembers

everything that happened everywhere in glee and stardom and whatever the fuck. And that's another, it's the Ring of Honor syndrome when all those guys couldn't get over the fact that the wider audience had no idea what they were fucking talking about. But at least swerve didn't go too long. And then Paige started.

And I didn't think this ever was going to end. He did a whole promo on Joe. And then I said, oh, Jesus, now he's talking to swerve. And it's this, again, he's got his own special style of this unnatural stilted way of speaking in the growly voice with the grandiose verbiage that's obviously a prepared statement and he's acting, he's not that person. We all know he's a simpering twit.

This went on quite a while and then finally he signed the contract. I'm like, Jesus Christ, at least that's over. Before I go any further on what happened next, it was I too hard on Adam Page's filibuster? Maybe. in the sense that I think you were too light on swerve and Samoa Joe. I thought everyone sucked here. I didn't believe a word at it. Anyone's mouth here. I thought everyone came up

with a speech they were happy with. Samoa Joe is a little more polished at not just standing there and reciting something like he's in Macbeth. But I didn't buy anything from any of these people and swerve just on gibberish. I don't even know what Swirb's talking about half the time. It's about like just a greater thing that I just don't get. I don't know what he's talking about. And Adam Page is ridiculous. I was given the first two more credit for just going short and helping the situation out. But nevertheless, then the lights went out.

I'm sorry. The lights went out and talk about the theater. MJF music and a big pop. And again, the devil is back and they're chanting his name and humming his song. They're literally going, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-na-t. They sang his instrumental.

They're starved for the sight. As Flair used to say, starved for the sight of a real man. They're starved for the sight of a star, and he's back, and it's a moment, and they were ready for it. But again, the most popular guy in the company, by virtue of the fact that he's the most talented guy in the company,

the biggest heel is the baby face. and he comes out, signs the contract, cashes in. It's a four-way match now. And I wrote down, this is over 10 minutes in for this segment, and MJF has just started talking. So here we go. Go ahead. I actually thought for a second, just a second,

because they quickly showed what they were going to do, when MJF came in, signed the contract, Chivani announced that he's cashing in. The crowd really reacted. I thought to myself he should leave right now and not say anything. Yeah. Get out. Yeah. Get out. Yeah. No. Here's the thing.

MJF proceeds for the next almost 10 minutes to give as he often does a virtuoso verbal performance. delivery great inflection great he didn't go too heavy on trashing the town and the people because he couldn't because they're fucking kissing his ass his material is wonderful but the way that they have presented this whole thing these other three guys have to stand there and listen to this guy just verbally dissect them tear them apart

none of the three of them have the verbal ability to come back in any way, shape, or form, and they just got to take it. And his reason for getting a four-way, he said, well, I could have just beat one of you or whatever, but he wants to prove that he's not a coward, and that he wants to beat Samoa Joe because he hates Joe, because when he beat me, then the fans turned on me. So I'm going to end his reign

and swerve, who he compared to Diddy, we've known each other since the Indies. I knew you since you, you went to the WWE and twerked for top dollar. Again, for the inside fans, but. And Swirv stood there. He no sold it in a sentence, but he just stood there while he's saying this,

and the crowd's ooing at it. And then the whole thing, page. But again, a masterful job of tearing these guys down, but they have to stand there and listen to it forever. And before he even started, they had to stand there and listen to the other three forever. Because the rule was nobody was allowed to get physical. Gee, then, fucking, why is anybody ever allowed to get physical when they're not supposed to? There's no universal logic in this whole guy. damn show. It's like just whatever the fuck. So it's not swerve's house. It's MJF's house and the rent

is due and the devil's back to collect. And he ended it with his catchphrase and the fans did the last line. And we had a 20 minute segment. We got a four way for the world title and my God, doesn't MJF have to beat it or have to win it? So Joe just won. But, But that was temporary. But in Tony's mind, this means that the people will be clamoring to see MJF against Page and MJF against Swerve

because they didn't see those single matches yet. He's giving them a four-way. He does it backwards. He gives him a four-way that he's going to book singles matches. And his heel is more popular than both his baby faces. Help me out, Brian.

I can't help you out, just like I can't help Tony out. No, um, you know, that's the dilemma. I thought MJF's promo was the highlight of the show. I also thought it was ill-timed. And I should, I thought he should have gotten, as soon as he came in there, looking a little different, different haircut.

I haven't seen him in a while, big reaction, and you had to assume he would get a big reaction returning, have him signed that contract, announce it's a four-way, get out of there. Save the promo till next week. Is there a next week?

Is that Christmas? Uh, but whatever. Save the promo. Yeah, well, it's Christmas Eve. So, I mean, I guess now that I think about it, I guess they did kind of have to rush all this in, well, for the pay-per-view that's coming up.

Imagine it. What about, what about since you write the fucking show, and it's all made up, back everything up a week, so you'd have more time. But he dressed down the three of them, and I agreed with just about everything he said. Samoa Joe, he's got in his face.

That was a different kind of thing. But what's holding them back? Not hooking Hobbs, they were just standing there. What's holding them back? What's their agreement? They don't have any agreement. They're not part of the match. No, they covered that.

They said, if anybody gets physical, well, you won't be able to be in the match, boys. And then okay, then it's like with the tournament, the idiot set up where there could be no interference. Then you've established that the promotion can control it. So the next time the heel does something, it's not his fault, it's the promotions for not controlling it because they can when they want to. The logic can't just be changed from week to week and segment to segment to fit your goddamn needs. That's the definition of lazy booking. The person who held the microphone and was hosting the segment was Tony Chivani until Samoa Joe stole it from him. We've seen him beat up and attacked.

The person who made the edict was Tony Kahn. We've seen him beat up and attacked. Why didn't they just make it, don't beat me up and attack situations? But to your point, there's no consistency from one segment to the next with AEW. From one match to the next or from week to week. It's just whatever he thinks he wants in the moment. and that's why we get what we get, which is all over the page. I mean, you know, you could, you could probably try to start thinking before the show goes on here.

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I have nothing else to say because this is not the one where I read all that shit. Well, we will now go back to the Wednesday night spectacular known as Dynamite. Speaking of watching all that shit, did you watch the eight-man tag with Tony Storm and Mina Mellons and Willow and Harley against Mercedes-Mone and Megan Brain

and Athena and Marina Schaefer? It would be a eight-woman tag, not eight-man tag. Oh, did you watch it? I saw the entrances. I saw the entrances and I tried to watch a little bit of it, but. But she didn't really watch it? Good. Did you watch it?

Hold on. Did you watch it? No. So what are you ripping? It's the sanity clause. See, with the party of the first part. Yeah. Oh, let's take that out.

Then the party of the second part. Nah, we don't want that part either. Now we're just left with the sanity clause. So there was a tournament match, Brian, with Kyle Feltcher against Pack. So now we've got, I'm thinking it's a heel versus heel match for no good reason except this screwy tournament,

but at least maybe they can relieve some of the damage they did when Hong Kong Fooey beat Kyle the other night Kyle can get a win back over this muscular fellow and try to redeem himself somewhat that's what I'm thinking is going to happen so

that's what everyone had to be thinking what happened quite frankly well because that's what should have fucking happened but they again they go I don't know how long they went and finally Kyle is going to give

pack the brain buster on the top turnbuckle like that's ever a good idea i saw they had quotes from kyle did some kind of interview somewhere said well they had a call him and fat ass davis as a tag team had a call with the wwee but he went with a e w because he felt like he could do more of what his vision of wrestling is there and that's the problem and by the way the dumb shit wasn't self-aware or confident enough to realize that he shouldn't be talking to the WWE as a tag team with this old fat guy, he should have been saying, can you get me into NXT so I can learn to be a multimillionaire?

But nevertheless, Kyle went for the brainbuster on the top turnbuckle, but Pack blocked it, and they gingerly got into position as time stood still where Kyle is holding on bent over and allows Pack to climb on his back piggyback while they're standing on the turnbuckles so that Pack can then give him a reverse Hurricane Rana off the top rope. And when they take the bump, does Pack cover the guy?

No. He jumps up and goes to the opposite turnbuck. on the other side of the ring, while Kyle Felcher is literally scooting himself on his ass into the proper position for Pack to come off the other top turnbuckle. And he took forever to get up there and get his balance and then did a flippy, turny splash. One, two, three.

They beat him again. And in the fakest finish that is possible, It's like they don't comprehend Kyle laying there. He thinks that there's 10,000 people in this building, and they're not going to notice him plainly and obviously scooching himself over to the ropes so that this other nitwit, who's just given him a devastating finish off the top rope, can do another one. He was going to win anyway.

he gave him a hurricane run off the top rope on his fucking head. But the dead body has to reanimate itself to slide over there where he can jump on him again. Did you even care by that point or did you see this abomination? I saw the finish. I saw some of the match. I saw the intro where Pack sets up a chair and sits with his back to the ring while Garcia and you to chew bubblegum and whisper jokes to each other. I don't know what's happening back there.

Very dramatic. And I don't think anyone thought he would win. But it's the Continental Classic. Everyone's got to lose. That's the problem. And this is, if we had quarter hours, I put money on this being where the majority of the audience gave up for the rest of the night. The tipping point.

Boy, we missed the quarters. Yeah. I bet you would be here, though. Well, because next was the dynamite. diamond ring battle royal that they do annually, which ran over into collision, because we're already at 10 o'clock at night,

but they had a special collision from 10 to 11. And the battle royal was ricochet, his two stooges, fat-ass Davis, bandito, Alexander, Shelton, Dino, Bowens,

some other I think there's a job guide and wrecked. I don't know who the fuck. This has been MJF's thing since the very first year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they always have it where you enter the battle royal and win the ring and then the previous winner defends against the god. MJF's been in the deal all five years in a row. And suddenly, and he still uses the ring in the finishes of his matches. But now they do the dynamite diamond ring battle royal thing.

He's not in it. He's not talked about. He's not mentioned. Nobody ever said, well, he's decided to give up the defense of this. Does this make sense, Brian? No. Okay. So.

Again, I don't watch a lot of this with the sound on anymore because I hate the commentary. And I'm not alone. So I don't know what they said. But that's the thing. They didn't say anything. about MJF. He was a non-entity in this situation, which the dynamite diamond ring, that's his gimmick. But they just had another one. And now Bandito and Rickache are the last two guys. So that means they come back next week and wrestle for the ring. Does MJF have to give the ring up or are they

getting a new ring? If MJF didn't have to give the ring up, then why has he been winning the same ring for the last five fucking years? Okay. Then we had a tournament match again. I swear to God, they had this on national television. Pockets against Mascaro Dorito. 13 minutes of national television time. Because now they're into collision. And as you mentioned, we hit our tipping point and it's free falling.

I'm free. fall in. Somebody told me that the key I sing in, Brian, is skeleton. That's pretty good. I don't know if that's true or not. Except your key doesn't fit into anything,

so I don't know about that. Well, I got the key that can open many doors. I got a brand new pair of roller skates. You got a brand new key. I wish we could get together and try them on to see. You sound like rusty roller skates. Well, Melanie had a hard life.

So speaking of Melanie, she should have been in this next match instead of who was in it, Jamie Hater and Isla Dawn. And after I didn't realize that's who it was because I just started fast forwarding. That was Isla Dawn from WWE? Apparently

that's what they called her. She was teamed with what? Alba Fire, right? Ah, that's right. Fire and Dawn. Alba and Isla. That famous combination of fire and dawn.

So this was another 10 minutes, and Jamie won, and then three of the heels jumped her and kicked the shit out of her, but Stantlander came in and made a big save and beat all the heels up, but Jamie Hater, in an awkward spot that they had stutter step set up, accidentally closed-lined Stantlender by accident, but then wasn't upset about it. And while the heel,

the heels that had attacked her ran off Jamie Hader picked up the belt that Stantlander had run in the ring with and dropped it on her because fuck her, she just saved me, so I don't care. It all makes sense to them. Any comments before we go to the main event, Brian?

Oh, it's all been a main event so far, Jim. I don't think anyone can dismiss these amazing matches. Well, let's dismiss this one. For the World Tag Team title, FTR defended against Juice Robinson and Austin Gunn. And again, I love Juice. I like the guns as a team because they're brothers. They worked hard.

They fucking tried hard. I love Juice because he's different and he can work and he can talk and he's got a gimmick. He's not just some interchangeable douchey indie dip shit like most of the rest of these guys. but again FTR tried to do every tag team spot ever I saw some Southern Boys Midnight Express from the 1990 Baltimore Bash

I saw variations of different tag team spots and swerves and maneuvers and it went past 11 o'clock into their runover of their runover how did Juce Robinson and Austin Gun get a World Tag Team title match? Have we ever seen them team up on this program before?

I don't think so. I think I saw them get together, but that may have been a pay-per-view pre-shund. They're part of the overall gang-bang gang that they've had going on or whatever. No, but now that each of their gang-bang friends is gone, they got together to have their own little gang. Gang-bang.

It's a mini-bang. But that's going to be the worst thing ever. When Jay White finally fucking returns, and we have to hear that, I'm a bang, bang, bang, gang, bang, just those fucking awful promos. Now I really hate everyone. But no, thing about this, if Jay White comes back and they smarten up and to tell him just shut up and just be Juice's partner and Juice runs the team and Juice does the promos, they could have a rematch with FTR and I'd watch that because that was the best match

that they've ever had in AEW. And it's been a couple years. want to do it again. But FTR versus Juice and Austin Gunn past 11 o'clock when they're going 100 miles an hour doing every false finish and every fucking spot and owned a man.

They didn't lose the belt. Let's put it that way. That's what happened. And that's where we are. Well, those were the ratings. No, they weren't. And again, you know, I know a lot of people are saying, gosh, we missed the quarter hours. miss the ratings the quarter hours don't come at all anymore the ratings come late but a e w is

on wendy nights is firmly in the high four hundreds to mid five hundreds thousand people that's where they're sitting right now after the the manner the method methodology change and and what's the show on saturday god damn collision is at 200 and something thousand and all of the WWE programs are down for the WWE programs and they still dwarf everything everybody else is doing. So Merry Christmas. Well, this is your show. I don't know if that was the...

Oh, that's right. Then that means we get to leave anytime I say. Well, technically, I guess that's true, yes. Well, in that case, folks, again, this is the last experience before Christmas. We're taking a little break. We'll be back with the drive-through. That'll be live and first run and all that good stuff in a few days.

And then we have the omnibai and various things that will tickle people's fancies. And actually next week's experience will be a new experience. It may not be the latest wrestling news, but it's a brand new episode. No one's heard.

I was going to do that. See? I was saving the best for last. I was going to have some omniby. We're going to have some special things to tickle the people's funny bones. And also we will have a wrestling history, heavy episode of the Jim Cornett experience next week

for just fine, relaxing holiday listening since it doesn't have to be evergreen news bulletins. That's where I was going with that. And of course, major shit will happen. I'll be back with breaking news updates on YouTube. Oh, stop it. No, I don't want anybody to break any news until after January 1st so that we can take our time fixing it.

Anyway, but otherwise than that, thanks everybody for a great year, the support and the listenership. We appreciate everybody's love and love is in the air, and we will hopefully deserve this in 2026. Since you've given it to us already, we'll do something next year to earn it. Until then, for Brian, I am Jim. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year, happy Hanukkah, happy Festivus,

and everything that everybody does for the rest of us. Thank you, fuck you, and bye-bye, everybody.