Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 615: Brain Damage

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

This week on the Experience, it's the first episode of the new year and Jim talks about Seth Rollins' comments about him, Ric Flair's cameos, Darby Allin lighting his brother on fire, William Regal's ...post about neck injuries, Chevy Chase, Selling Superman, Jim Londos, and much more! Plus Jim reviews AEW Worlds End! Thanks to our episode sponsors: PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/JCE and use code JCE to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! MANDO:  Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code JCE at shopmando.com! #mandopod HELIX:  Go to helixsleep.com/jce for 27% Off Sitewide exclusive for listeners of the Jim Cornette Experience!  RAYCON:  Essential Open Earbuds are here to help you crush your new year goals. Go to buyraycon.com/jceOPEN to get 20% off sitewide @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's in Kornet. The keys to the future. Hell by Nets. deeper in the same old shit. But today's topic, brain damage and people that have it. And joining me for all this and more,
Starting point is 00:01:16 Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. co-host to you, his brand is being the brainiest Brian. Be great, Brian Last, everybody. Oh, oh, hi, Jim, a pleasure to be here once again for a brainy edition of the experience. I can't wait. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on things we're getting caught up on today. You can't wait.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I can't talk. I haven't done this for two weeks now. And see, I've proven once again my old adage, the old saying it goes for all. almost anything. How could I miss you if you won't go away? Well, now I've gone away and missed the show. And now I'm back in 10 pounds lighter, as that's an old promo line from 1976. But I'm back, baby, on the experience here, and we have so much to catch up on. Of course, the variety of people who've been dropped on their heads and or who have long exhibited signs that they may have been in the past dropped on their heads.
Starting point is 00:02:23 But Brian, you know, the people, the cult of Cornette members, they just love it when I keep them up on the weather from around here in Louisville. You know about my weather reports. I would say that we probably have the most weather conscious wrestling audience out there because of these segments. That's right. And we have a number of meteorologists that actually follow me on Twitter and listen to the program for the various inside information they get here. and I've been talking about in November and December how the weather's been so shitty here in Louisville, Kentucky
Starting point is 00:02:59 is snow and cold and bleak and windy and everything. Well, I'll have you know that over Christmas week, Brian, we said, by the way, hopefully everybody had a great Christmas and New Year. We had a wonderful Christmas dinner here on Christmas Day with Stacey's folks and exchanged the presents and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it was, that was just lovely. And then just three days after the Sunday after Christmas, what was that, the 28th, December of, December of 28th is what I'm saying. That's right. Yes. Well, we set a record. Guess what the temperature was in Louisville, Kentucky at five in the afternoon
Starting point is 00:03:47 on Sunday, December 28th. 60 degrees. 75 degrees. Wow. Guess what the temperature was 12 hours later at 5 a.m. on Monday morning. 60 degrees. 24. Oh. We had a 51 degree temperature drop.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I think the all-time record for any period of any 24-hour period here in Louisville is like 56 degrees or whatever, years and years. ago and in between that temperature drop, Brian, came the cold front. Let me ask you another question. Have you ever seen a severe thunderstorm with no thunder and no lightning? Well, without thunder, how could it be a thunderstorm would be my question. Exactly, but by God, we had it. Sunday night. They'd said it's going to be windy
Starting point is 00:04:55 and it had been windy all day and the wind gusts 40, 45 miles an hour. They said this front's going to come through, but we have no thunderstorm fuel, even though it's hot, we don't have the Zabada. So there won't really be any organized severe weather. Bullshit! All of a sudden, I'm sitting there watching TV
Starting point is 00:05:16 and up pops Mark Weinberg on WDRB, my weather guy. he's the man baby he'll tell you what the due point is up fucking somebody's ass in a fucking crowded theater they break in they the weather service has issued for this line this cold front coming in severe thunderstorm warnings with tornado possible tags on it and the wind is coming and what there was no thunder and no lightning it was heavy, brief, heavy rain and high winds. And 10 minutes and boom, it's gone by, right?
Starting point is 00:05:58 But then it's after dark. So I look out all the windows. I don't see anything disturbed. I'm like, okay, we got past that. Next morning, the sun comes up. I look out the back window. Brian, remember when that giant poplar tree about a year and a half ago turned over sideways out of the fucking ground,
Starting point is 00:06:19 100 feet tall, it just laid to the size of a fucking battleship, 25 feet away, a maple tree, the trunk of it's so big, two grown men could barely reach around it. And one of the oldest trees left on the property has just broken off it to ground and gone the same exact direction, like 20 feet over, and done the 7-10 split in between two other trees,
Starting point is 00:06:54 thankfully, and come to the rest at the foot of a mulberry tree that it just popped a couple of branches out. And this thing is fucking 75 feet tall. And truth be known, if somebody had said, we got to take one tree, which one would you pick? Because this one was old and I knew it. and I was thinking about having the top taken out of it anyway because I didn't want it to break off and fall. Even though it wasn't really dead, it was just a stalk up there with a little foliage, but the bottom was all green and everything.
Starting point is 00:07:34 So I just had the fucking tree guy out this morning and there's $6,000 to remove this giant 25-ton fucking obstacle from my backyard. So. Do you ever eat any mulberries off the mulberry tree? And no, I don't. But I would run you around the mulberry bush for asking if, no, I used to eat. We used to have some nice blackberry and blueberry bushes in the back.
Starting point is 00:08:13 That we would, when I was little, my mom would go back there and get some and we would have some berries and things. but that was years ago when they haven't made the, they haven't made it. They're gone. They're long gone. Well, back to the winter.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Back to the winter. Long with this giant $6,000 fucking tree. Long gone. But so that, and now it's back to be in, it's cold, it's been cold and it's going to be, and it's going to warm up the next couple days.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And then the same thing's going to have. A cold front's going to come through. It's going to say it's going to be windy. Like, fuck. And my thing on the computer, by a little weather thing down on the bar, Rainy Days Ahead. That sounds like a song,
Starting point is 00:09:05 We ought to rainy days ahead. It's going to be nothing but gloom, doom, despair and agony, oh me, deep, dark depression, excessive misery. If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. Gloom, despair, and agony, oh me. when I was a dark cloud over my head. Well, you ought to get that doctor to look at that.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Maybe they could fix that. If you've got that thing following you around, there may be some kind of surgery they can perform. A dark cloud in the vocal form, like your thunderstorm would have thunder. Well, you know, we established that I sing in a special key all my own. A lot of people can't keep up with it. But while we were on the Christmas break, Brian,
Starting point is 00:09:54 independently of each other, you and I have begun to think alike. Sort of like the old married couple, you know, we've been around each other too long. Independently of each other, we both watched a documentary TV series, limited series,
Starting point is 00:10:13 whatever the fuck, on the streaming television. And then you wrote me and said, oh, you got to watch this, it's great. And I wrote you back and said, I just watched it. And it is, what service is the documentary series selling Superman on? Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:10:33 I think it was Amazon Prime, if not Netflix, but I think it was Amazon Prime. Well, it's one of them that I've got to have to watch the wrestling. So the Prime video with the little swoosh that says, that means it's Amazon, right? Because they swoosh people. Is this correct? They do, in fact, have the trademark on the Swoosh. looking to see if I could find where this, it's on Amazon Prime, that is correct. Okay, well, there you go. So swoosh on over, selling Superman is, and it's been out, I guess,
Starting point is 00:11:07 for a year or so, and I had not heard anything about it, and I don't think you had either, but it's like a four-part documentary series on this guy and his a couple family members and some immediate friends that came into possession of his. father's comic book collection. And the guy who did the documentary for blessing or a curse, he was a friend of the family. So he started at the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:11:40 He knew about this thing before anybody else did, and he was documenting it. But because he was a friend of the family and not really a comic book collector, although I don't know the answers to the question. that I wanted are able to be had because apparently this guy's father was, he was mentally diagnosed or after the fact possibly diagnosed with, he had something going on. I think they said Asperger's, but he was also obviously an accomplished contract lawyer.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Well, he was an accomplished fucking secret agent is what he was, because this guy, had assembled this comic book collection over a period of, I guess, probably 40 years or whatever. And it took over the guy's whole life, and these kids were brought up in the house, and they talked to the mother who was the, you know, the wife of the guy who said it affected our whole family because the more that he got and brought home, they didn't really know what was there and they didn't really know what he was doing or where he was getting it from. But it took over the basement and then it took over a closet. It took over another room.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And then he didn't want to leave the house, the guy, because he was scared that somebody would come and get the comic books. And he made the kids swear when they went to school. Don't tell anybody about the comic books. And it was like a family, a dark family secret only instead of some kind of porn dungeon in the basement, he had comic books. But what I wanted answered was where did he fucking go to get all of these comic books?
Starting point is 00:13:39 The guy dies, the family starts trying to figure out what's going on. And they had 300,000 comic books. And Brian, that's the number you heard, right? plus they had sports cards and other type of things, but 300,000 comic books. Yeah, that was another thing they just kind of threw out there. There were also toys and sports cards, so that's a whole other part of the collection
Starting point is 00:14:06 they really didn't dive into. Yes, but here's the thing. And I mean, the only thing I can compare that to is, at my height, when I had all the comics I'd ever had before I'd sold anything, I had probably 14,000. including the coverless and the old grummy classics illustrators, right? Just all the drag. This would be over 20 times that, and not only that, but the content.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I'm sitting there at various points leafing through the varieties of books. This was golden age through the 90s. I guess in maybe 2000s he didn't stop until he died. but also multiple copies, high-grade issues of stuff that wasn't even everything. Everything. And I know for a fact, because I live through it, and we've talked about it, this guy, the reason why I was selling Superman was the title, because the two prize books in his collection were copies of Superman number one and Batman
Starting point is 00:15:22 number one. And the Superman number one graded at a 9.0 and I get, well, let's go ahead and say it now and they sold it to auction for $3.5 million the one book out of $300,000. But even
Starting point is 00:15:38 in 1972, a Superman number one in any condition would have set you back a couple hundred dollars. Remember, I've mentioned the 1970 chance I had to buy an action comics number one for $400 from good old Howard Raghavsky. But not only you couldn't, you couldn't really find one in a 9.0 even in those days for that
Starting point is 00:16:08 money. And they didn't, maybe they didn't know because the guy just left and came back with shit. And the kids and the family was never included. So maybe they didn't know where he got all this. but where in the fuck? Even in the 70s and 80s and they never did they ever say what the guy did for a living
Starting point is 00:16:29 because his son apparently is really well off and that's why he was able to rent the place to store this and take care of it and all that stuff but what did this guy do? Oh, he was a lawyer. They said he was a contract lawyer.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Okay, that's a contract lawyer. That's how he had all the money for all that. I mean, when you say he had multiples, like, Imagine like any comic you would want from the 60s or 70s if all of a sudden they pulled out a stack of them and many of them appear to be mint condition. I mean, it's, yes.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It's insane. It was insane. And the sun must, the sun's well off. He said that. Also, maybe on the gas, I don't know. But the sun's well off. Yeah, I think he is. And they not just got to space,
Starting point is 00:17:14 but they kind of built a deluxe storage facility with security and all sorts of things because it's an invaluable collection. Yeah, well, it's a storage unit looking facility type, but they've got like a warehouse with customized shelves and the security cameras and the climate control and the whole nine yards.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I mean, it's my fucking 12-year-old goddamn dream come true, right? But again, this guy had to be going and buying not just books for a collection, but stock because again when the kid that helped me grade my marbles and DCs 20 years ago he had worked for what at the time was the biggest comic shop in town and he said that my collection was as far as back issues went was the store and the store's back issues was a collection I had more than they did of specifically of back issues. not only the Marvel's DCs, but everything, this guy had to be going to comic shops and
Starting point is 00:18:26 buying the stock. There's no other way that he could have done this. Well, at one point, I think in the last episode, when they had the son talk with some of the, they found a couple of the guys who used to work at the comic book store in the 80s that he was aware of. And they thought that the owner may have bartered with the father for legal work. at times. Like, you know, hey, can you do this for me in exchange?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Here's this case of giant size X-Men number one for you to have. Just cases of comics. But see, no, there was, there's so much golden age that I was looking at also. An obscure shit that I saw from the 50s that I don't, again, to assemble, you can, there's dealers that have 300,000 books, and the mega dealers back issues in their, in their arsenal, but not this quality, this level, this condition.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And I don't know how, and again, to keep it secret from the, from the family for all of that period of time to where they didn't, he had, the, the good stuff was in a little custom built closet that was behind a fucking false wall. And I, a false wall that had a bookshelf in front of me. but filled with comics. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So I'm, you know, anybody else who would have been a documentary about finding people in the basement, but this guy had the rarest comics in the goddamn on the planet. See, but that's one of the weird things that there's no answer to. It's one of the big things
Starting point is 00:20:06 that the sun is kind of searching for. Why did he do it? You know, collecting is something, you know, you and I understand that other people who listen to the show can understand, whether it's a small collection or a big one. when you collect things you do but sometimes you think
Starting point is 00:20:22 well one day my kids will get it or one day I'll donate it one day I'll sell it whatever it is it didn't appear there was any end game and you know there was one guy and who tried to tell the son your father saved it for you obviously it was for you to find it and you and your family to sell it and share the love
Starting point is 00:20:41 or whatever the fuck and the son didn't even believe that said that wasn't my dad because he'd been told all his life don't tell anybody about this shit and stay away from it. But that's, I'm, again, even if he wanted to be a collector, who didn't want to share it with the family or whatever, he couldn't get to most of what he had because it was just packed in this house that it was crowding them out.
Starting point is 00:21:11 That's why the wife divorced him, right? And he got crowded out. but you know it had to be some kind of obsessive thing where I'm just going to accumulate all of these things even if I can't ever get to them because the other things are in front of them but I'm just again as somebody who I probably would have started collecting comics around the same time as this guy I think when he died he's probably a little older than me but you know, I remember what it was like trying to find before the internet and before the mainstreaming of the hobby to find shit like that. And it was just, it was very hard. And I guarantee you that he had some of that golden age shit, especially by the 90s or well before,
Starting point is 00:22:08 because even a, I don't care if he was Johnny Cochran. He couldn't have afforded. a lot of this shit, no matter what he did and keep it secret from the family. Where did these hundreds of thousands of dollars go last year, Bill? So this, I'd love if he had saved receipts like Jack Pfeffer for every time he bought something or made some kind of deal, that would have been insane. What did you think of what the son's doing in terms of selling what he's selling from the collection at the same time that he's buying things and adding to the collection and there are certain
Starting point is 00:22:47 things he won't sell they are you know they found different sellers to cover different areas including an auction house what do you think of what they're doing to sell the inventory they're selling well that the uh Harley yee is a comics dealer that's been advertising in the overstreet price guide for years and years as nice as he's like a four-foot nine little round-faced fella I think he was kind of being nice to the two fellows that he met that he was trying to consign a lot of the what they call run books. It's like these are books that people want to complete their runs. They're not key issues or major collector's items on their own,
Starting point is 00:23:35 but if somebody's trying to get one through 100, they want number 72. And some of the lower price stuff, I think he was being nice to those people because they look like they were giving a lot of effort out. With some of the bigger stuff, you know, a guy like the Harley Yee or some of these other major overstreet advertisers,
Starting point is 00:23:56 they do go to all the big conventions and they're right there when people are on the spot looking for shit in person. But the only way to do the major books anymore is by an auction house like Heritage or, I think Metropolis Comics has done major auction business with these books that are worth millions of dollars because you can't,
Starting point is 00:24:22 it's got to be a worldwide auction with a known platform because you can't get five or six people that are willing to spend a million dollars or more on a comic book at the same place at the same time in person. And you can't just do that on fucking eBay, unless you're an idiot. I said, didn't a Logan Paul spend a million dollars on something on eBay? He's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:24:46 But you can't, you know, do that if you're legitimate. So you got to split. That's the thing that I ran into. It was like, you know, a lot of people would have bought my entire collection, but they would have only given me 20 or 30 cents on the dollar or whatever, because where are you going to immediately go and turn around 10 or 12,000? books, not even golden age like this yet. So this guy may not live long enough to sell all of those books. But what do you need 54 copies of Tales of Suspense 58 for? That's where they got me.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It wasn't even seeing like the rare issues or the issues that as a kid, I was like, oh, I wish I had that. It was just the stacks when it was piles of issues. But it's astounding. Tales to Astonish, maybe I should say. Yes, it's astonishing. But it's a really good four-part documentary, and again, they're still out there and they're still selling comic books, and they have their...
Starting point is 00:25:52 One last thing about all this. And also, and we didn't mention the main son that's doing this may have inherited some of his father's mental makeup because he was about to have a breakdown over the process of going through all of this. Well, he almost had a breakdown when the filmmaker dropped Superman number one. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:14 In the case. And that's what I was going to ask you about. What are your thoughts on, as someone who was collected and sold, just the whole grading process and comic books in cases, and just what are your thoughts on, you know, obviously it's a necessity. It's part of how things are sold today, but what are your thoughts on all of it? The grading process is always been necessary because you've got to, you've got to, you know, to have some kind of standard to attach a value. Is it in good condition or very good or fine or whatever?
Starting point is 00:26:46 And I've mentioned before in the in the olden days, good fine and mint, even in the first overstreets was a one, two, three dollar spread. Good dollar fine two dollars meant three dollars. And you know, that was the way it was for quite some time. And then they started developing the
Starting point is 00:27:08 the zero to 10 numeric grading system where you get a 9.6 or a 9.8 because the chip monk that ate the corner only bit with one tooth or whatever, right? And then the slabbing where they, you know, put
Starting point is 00:27:24 the book, whatever, in the plexiglass sleeve, which if it's something incredibly valuable, yes, for an investment, The slabbing and the minute grading and the professional grading and everything is worth it because people then feel more confident about paying the money, especially sight unseen, or even if it's in person, they know what they've got exactly. But at the same time, you can't open the goddamn book.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You can't read the book. You can't even if you're being careful. And even if you know, you can't just smell the book, even if you don't want to open the pages, you can't touch it. That to me, then it takes, collecting has always been for fun because you like the subject and investment if you're spending money, but you know that things are going to appreciate. But the slabbing, it takes it all the way just to investment without any collecting for fun. So that's, you know, yeah, I have a few slabbed books that people have given me, but I never had any of mine done. And then when I sold them, I knew that the people at bought them were going to go and fucking slab them,
Starting point is 00:28:53 but that was none of my concern at that point. But again, it's just, it's pure greed. Greed in commerce, Brian, is the whole fucking deal. but if I had a 9.0 Superman number one, I would have slab that son of a bitch because I'd have $3.5 million right now and you and I wouldn't be speaking. Was Superman number one always bigger than Batman number one,
Starting point is 00:29:18 even at Batman's peak and popularity, which probably surpassed Superman's in some respect until the movie came out with Christopher Reeve? Well, but back up again because, yes, while Superman number one, I believe, and I'm willing to be corrected, I don't have photographic memory forever every overstreet price guide for the last 50 years.
Starting point is 00:29:41 But Superman 1 was usually more expensive than Batman 1, but Detective 27, which is the first Batman, was more expensive than Superman 1, but Action 1, which was the first Superman, was always the one that was nudging out Detective 27. So it's been neck-a-neck there. and then you can you can throw in some fucking,
Starting point is 00:30:11 you know, really rare, timely stuff. The Captain America's, the various, you know, Marvel, what came to be Marvel characters, but they never, the amazing Fantasy 15 was the first Silver Age book
Starting point is 00:30:28 that really got into the Action 1, Detective 27 fucking Price Stratosphere, that I'm aware of. Well, this has been the comics corner. Well, you know, who else has been cornered? Because he's not a stand-up comic. We go from selling Superman to tugging on a Nature Boy's cape.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I want to say at the start of this because so many people have flooded the Twitter waves, sending us these things and asking, I've always loved, I've been a fan of it. of Rick Flair, since I was a fan of wrestling as a young, young chowder, snapper. And from the start of working with Flair, he's the one that recruited me in the midnight to work for Jim Crockett. He gave me my first booking job on their booking committee.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And I learned all kinds of stuff there. And he made me and Jim Ross the permanent commentary duo on the Clash Champion specials. so I learned a lot there on commentary. He's done all kinds of things for me. So I'm not trying to dog pile on Rick Flair. But these are self-inflicted wounds, Brian. These are unforced errors.
Starting point is 00:32:01 These are unfortunate things that he is doing to himself, that he, I can't see that there wasn't options, that these things did not have to happen. There was an option here that we wouldn't be talking about this right now and that nobody would be talking about Barf and his friends right now. Have I confused the people
Starting point is 00:32:27 with what I'm talking about yet? Possibly. You haven't exactly said what we're about to talk about. Rick Flair has spoken out in public again when he shouldn't have. And this time he did it. he videotaped himself doing it and sent it out and people are laughing at him over it
Starting point is 00:32:51 and I don't blame him but I just wish he wouldn't do these things I wish you didn't have to be this way but in the words of downtown Bruno mama says it bes that way sometimes so you know what part of the problem is the Rick Flair you worked with and again the public persona was different
Starting point is 00:33:12 and then the private guy, but even the private guy may not have been where he is today. He wasn't. But Rick Flair, with all the partying and everything else, he was a composed speaker and a good representative. And I actually have a little bit of audio. I want to play for you for a second, because this just went up a few weeks ago. I saw it. Someone sent it over to me.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's Rick Flair on TNN, promoting a WCW event, but just listen to how he's talking. Now, the big fight, if you call them fights, I guess you do. Yeah, wrestling matches. The big match is on Sunday. And who is the guy that you're going after? Barry Windham. He's the Iranian NWA World Heavyweight Champion right now. Are you nervous?
Starting point is 00:33:55 I'm nervous, but I've prepared hard for this match and I'm ready Sunday. I think that I'm ready and I'm ready to hopefully win the match. Now, he's the lone wolf. How is... I'll stop it there. Just a brief example. He used to just sound like a normal guy. And again, if you are hiring him for a cameo,
Starting point is 00:34:12 You may not want just the normal guy, but I don't feel like we ever see the normal guy anymore. Well, that's what I was going to say is that in my experience with Rick, and of course, I did not go to plum crazy with all of the horsemen and et cetera and do all of that stuff. Everybody knows that was not my thing. But I traveled with Flair. When he was the Booker, I was riding a car with him and Kevin. I've been in restaurants, nice restaurants with Flair. and Cleopatra, his ex-wife.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I've been in CNN Center, and even in meetings with Jim Hurd, who he really wanted to come over the table and just fucking gouge his eyes out. Traveling around in hotels, whatever, he was dressed, he looked the fucking part. He was the world champion. He was polite.
Starting point is 00:35:07 He was professional. Especially, like you said, this wasn't a wrestling appearance that you just played. It was on TNN just talking about the upcoming paper view. So he wasn't flipping a fuck out.
Starting point is 00:35:22 He looked like a professional athlete. And that's the experience that I heard. And it dawned on me, and then we'll get into the cameos here that he's been doing. But it dawned on me that Flair made not only a fortune, but also established himself
Starting point is 00:35:42 as the greatest wrestler in the ring of all time to so many people trying to be Ray Stevens. But when he retired, he should have started trying to be Nick Bockwinkle. But he's still trying to be Ray Stevens. And there's a reason that Ray Stevens wasn't even being Ray Stevens really to the end and he was only 60 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Can you imagine if Flair had adopted the Bokwinkle path that dress nice, the hair in place, the yes sir, the class. That's the way he was. See, that's the way he was. I heard Rick Flair say, yes, sir. In like interviews with like real people, not like wrestling. Real people and a woman. Not yet. Real women broadcasters, not people like we just heard on TNN, not on wrestling. He used to be very polite and he knew what he should be. And now, he appears to be completely fucking unhinged, and, you know, you bring up the cameo thing, we almost talked about this before our break, because that day that we last recorded,
Starting point is 00:36:55 someone sent me this first thing with no audio, just a review that someone left. And I thought it was so funny, and we figured let's wait, you know, we're about to go to break. and then audio came out and we'll talk about that too but Jim the first thing we saw was a review for a Rick Flair cameo on November 26, 2025, left by Anonymous and I guess by the way
Starting point is 00:37:22 we should just mention that cameos are where people pay money for the celebrity in question to do a video and send it to them for their specifications just for everybody to keep them up well here's the review this may be the video we'll check
Starting point is 00:37:37 but here's the review. Yo, I paid 600 bucks for Rick to sit in a restaurant, blast it out of his mind, and say my dad's name wrong. I mean, I... God damn it. I pay for him to say Merry Christmas to my father, Buff. He called him Barf. Merry. Christmas barf?
Starting point is 00:38:09 He called him barf and just read the instructions word for word. I'm super disappointed. I spent money on this. I would have got someone who would actually put in the effort for 600 bucks
Starting point is 00:38:22 to a regular person that's a lot of money. I'm not going to give a Christmas video to my father with his hero calling him barf. Oh, I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen. That's...
Starting point is 00:38:42 I'm not. I haven't heard the, do you have the audio on that? Because I haven't heard that one. I've heard the other one. I don't know. This one says he found the video. Is this the right one? Not even the same video.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So no, it's not. Oh, well, there's more. Well, yeah. So that's the barf incident. So we heard about barf. And then you can go. The one that I saw, I'm thinking maybe he's the one that you've got is he's supposed to say happy wedding congratulations to whoever the fellow is and he spends like a minute
Starting point is 00:39:20 and a half on why the fuck would you get married what the fuck's the matter with you and meaning it well again we have the audio we'll play that in a second we should probably read the review first because it'll explain the issues before you hear it but also it's important to note not everyone's you you took it very serious and had very popular cameos in your home office in a quiet setting. But we've seen other people. Seemingly, they needed a quiet setting. They went to their car.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Like, they did what they could to deliver for like 50 bucks, you know, whatever it was, a cameo to someone in a professional way. So you pay $600 or this person said actually it was a grand. They would go to, they would go somewhere where you would have at least a private phone call, not just in the middle of a goddamn county fair. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Well, this is a review here from April. After spending nearly a grand to have someone my brother admired enough to have tattooed on him, wish him luck on his wedding, I would have expected Rick to at least browse through the notes ahead of time, not read it word for word the first time, and most definitely not to tell him he's making a mistake. And to remain a... GF, because he was so fucked up he could barely speak right.
Starting point is 00:40:48 What would have been a great gift ended up being the worst thing he's ever been gifted. Unbelievable. One star review. So let's... At least she didn't give it no stars. Let's go to the audio in question, Jim. Here's Rick Flair on Cameo. I don't know where he is.
Starting point is 00:41:07 There's a lot of people in the background. It's a bar of some description. He's just sitting there. holding his own phone looking at it with people at the bar milling around and having conversations in the background
Starting point is 00:41:21 to my man Eric from Tina family and the military boy who I guess this is a beautiful gift I'm not sure why or bachelor gift
Starting point is 00:41:40 gosh man Eric is a tattoo of your famous Woo God, Eric, so many women do. So more to do it. Now he's getting married.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh my God. Why would you get married, motherfucker? It's the worst possible commitment you can do because the answer is the day you get married, 50% of everything is her. I don't care how beautiful she is.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Stay her girlfriend. Family Tina? Any military boys? Want to wish you the best of luck? Matt says diamonds are forever. And so is Rick Blair. And that's a god's honest, too, brother. I'm a diamond.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I'm forever. I've overstayed my welcome. No. Overstate my welcome. Trouer words may have never been spoken. I've heard him say, you know, diamonds are forever in promos for years. I never heard, I am a diamond. And he has arrived and he is here.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Again. not everyone could be you in terms of the effort that they put into a cameo you really took a lot of care and making sure that every... Well, don't just put, because I'm not even selling it. As a matter of fact, you're plugging something. I don't even do anymore, but that's the reverse of this is why I don't do them. Because what I did was I had Hotchkis, guys said, go out and get the number one phone, the best phone to do the videos. We have a cameo phone, right? That's all it's ever been used for.
Starting point is 00:43:49 and we found the place in the office where the lighting was perfect and we got the audio down and et cetera and he got the hang of uploading them and sending them to the cameo people because you know I wasn't going to do that and we treated it like a goddamn day of local promos and we put 50 on sale and he would come in with a stack of 50 sheets of paper with the instructions on it
Starting point is 00:44:16 and we'd go one by one instead of okay there's a Charlotte, this is Atlanta, this is Greensboro. It'd be like, okay, this is for little Ned. He's getting over his hernia surgery. There's Farquhar. He's just recently moved to a desert island of the South Pacific, whatever. And I would give everybody at least two minutes because it was 150 bucks, which I thought was a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:44:43 But it's an eight-hour day to do 50 of them. Hachkas even got me the music stand. so I could do notes like this is for so-and-so and from so-and-so and, oh, he's, you know, he's fat or whatever, and put the notes on so I was, well, because they would give me a description or what they wanted me to say about somebody, but sometimes it would be, hey, my brother Pizmo's a big fan, roast him. I don't know what he looks like, how old he is, where he lives,
Starting point is 00:45:14 what he does for a living. You try doing two minutes on that. and I'm looking for props around the office to bring in and shit, whatever the fuck. And finally, at the end of an eight-hour day, I would say, God damn, I'm mentally exhausted. I could make the same amount of money if I just spent this day writing my next book in the long run. And I didn't want to just charge ridiculous amounts of money for just a video message. But goddamn, that's why I,
Starting point is 00:45:46 I don't do them anymore because they were too hard. Rick's did taking them too easy. Here's when they got a three-star review from September. Rick Flair in a car. Let's go to this. Oh, no. Not driving. This comes from Osseobio, Bio.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Nature Boys Playground. I've strutted through steel cages, danced with danger, and kissed the canvas more times than you'll blink, then you'll blink your eyes. You think you're ready for hand-to-hand combat With the limousine riding Jet flying
Starting point is 00:46:28 Kist stealing wheeling dealing Son of a gun On the steps of democracy What in the world is The bigger man Happy birthday Dell from Woo!
Starting point is 00:46:47 The Nature Boy God bless. Stay strong. We keep making the girls go. Woo! All night long. That got a three-star review, and he's cuts all over his face in every one of these videos. Just weird cuts. Here's Rick Floyd Outdoors.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Let's see what this one is. And Leanna, from Dad and Heidi. Congratulations. Getting married. It's phenomenal. I think that the most awesome. something you could possibly do. My son, Chris.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Although, let me stop it there. That's a complete about face from the other video. Well, I like the cameo, no pun intended, from the guy that walked by, whoo! There's Rick Flair! Got more woo-wos from other people in these videos so far than from Rick. It's a manor of his life,
Starting point is 00:47:47 Leanna. That's really imparted. The love of his life. That is absolutely a beautiful way to put it. been a wrestling fan all his life and has been to five wrestamias including a match with Sean Michaels
Starting point is 00:48:05 in Orlando. Oh, I appreciate all that man. His match. I didn't know who's bad. Please wish him. I have my happy marriage. He's just reading. He's reading the instructions. He's just reading. It's like insert slot B into tab A. Turn over now.
Starting point is 00:48:23 life as they tie the knot God bless you both dad thanks for reaching out to me I haven't been very successful in marriage doesn't mean you can't be I was traveling all the time doing what I do which only thing I can do is wrestle you guys have a great opportunity to have a great marriage
Starting point is 00:48:51 and a great life Love and respect you. Dad and Heidi, thanks for reaching out. Chris and Leanna, stay strong, get married, be faithful, love each other, and Chris make Leanna go, woo, every day of the week. That wasn't too terrible. I was better. What poisoned him between now and then on the marriage principle?
Starting point is 00:49:21 That was June. Sometime after June, he was like, Fuck marriage. Don't do it. They get half. They'll take half. You get divorce as many times as he does. He gets a lot of halves. And one last one we'll play, because these are the official ones, I guess, that he uses as an example. These are the demos. This is one for a pep talk. Here's a Rick Flair pep talk. He was about to give her, actually.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Adrian, get your boy here, man. Rolex wear. Dimering Wern, living in the ride, and a private jet flying. My friend Adrian has been having a tough week. He's a hardworking guy who opened several small businesses and some haters, they're giving him some shit. Well, tell them to kiss your ass. Would you encourage him?
Starting point is 00:50:22 Encourage him and tell him he is loved he, which obviously you are by your brother Wade. Would you encourage him? There's the past part of the, there's a participle dangling here somehow. Bromatically, this does not work it out. There's a little more of the pep talk here. Your family, your friends, cooked straight steaks, is a great at video games. My brother,
Starting point is 00:50:57 look at shit everybody else in life. Life, we own our life. We own our world. Unless they can kick your ass, tell them to go fuck themselves. God bless your brother. Stay strong.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Keep being the man. That's what God always says. That's what God always says. Go fuck yourself. Why are there always plates and bottles clinking in the background? And other people doing woo in the background. It happened there again at the end. There were two different women who obviously did it in the background.
Starting point is 00:51:32 But that's what I'm saying. Even if you possibly have not been overserved, the idea probably is not to do a cameo that you've been paid a lot of money for in a public restaurant with people around you doing backup wooes. I'm looking at your right. Like, again, these are the preview videos. One of them says other. And a lot of them, like, they begin with a shot of his face.
Starting point is 00:51:58 He's filming himself, obviously. This one, it's a shot of the bar the other way, so you just see, like, where the drinks go. Although, let me just click just to see what it is. Oh, snap. I'm like, okay, no harm for that. They're all snaps all the time. Willie.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Tom Lang. The nature boy comes from Brandon Chris Monroe and of course myself. Tom 66, just finished cancer treatment. He's celebrating the 4th through July with family in Frankfurt, Mississippi. Tom is a lifelong fan. Love your classic, woo. See, that's what you're paying for him to read back to you with. He should even say he loves my classic woo, but loves your classic woo.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I wonder if there's a way to game the system. Like, if you want to actually gift someone a Rick Flair message, like the way you word it so that he reads it back so that it actually sounds like he's saying it as a person. You write his script for it. Well, but that didn't work out on the first one, I don't think. I feel like he mentions the people who paid for it. for it more than the people receive it. Well, and speaking of which, we say Rick
Starting point is 00:53:24 Flair is suing people because his weed company went sideways. And somebody does Rick have managers, agents, handlers of various kinds, doing his business? Or is
Starting point is 00:53:42 he just getting into these things by himself? And is, you think maybe somebody in the family might say, Rick, don't over imbib and send out public videos. I'm going to do what I want, and I'm going to smoke this Panama Red. Woo! But, I mean, is everybody in his immediate family and social circle just worried about the profitability of the projects and the enterprises he's getting into
Starting point is 00:54:13 and not whether he's making himself look bad in public or not? you know again you brought up bockwinkle earlier bachwinkle didn't need a handler you know he was a responsible guy who knows what he did in his private time i'm not saying you know anything like he didn't have fun well no he and and let's and a lot of people are going to say this so let's say no nick bachwinkle didn't have weed companies and vodka companies coming after him in his you know golden retirement years either but he that's the point i'm making is that nick bachwinkle is kind of like what a grown-up Rick Flair would have been. Ray Stevens was his first half of his life,
Starting point is 00:54:55 and Bach Winkle would have in the second half. But instead, Rick's just gone full Stevens. I always thought it would have been old man, Buddy Rogers. Well, same principle. The fucking nice suits and the everything's all in place and very smooth speaking, except Bach Winkle was really a lot more intelligent.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I want to say a lot more educated and articulate person than Buddy Rogers was but the look the same thing. Say that to my face, Pally. Well, Pally. Well, there's the Rick Flair cameo story. Obviously, it's a great deal for those of you looking for a Rick Flair experience.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Apparently priced between $600 and $1,000 based on what, well, no. Personal video, $500 plus. I guess there are caveats. But if you want to book a business video, it's $10,000. Jesus Christ! Does that cover the going out of business sale expenses?
Starting point is 00:55:56 See, how would you do that for a business? Because you can't really play that in a meeting, and it's just him drunk in a bar reading what you wrote him. Your quarterly reports were great. Everything's looking good. I've gone over your finances myself, and everything there's nothing to worry about. I don't know how you would get $10,000 of value for your business out of,
Starting point is 00:56:22 unless your business was goddamn vodka. And even then maybe that might not be good for your vodka business. Oh, shit, we don't want to look like that. Well, we'll see what happens with Rick Flair and his various business enterprises. Of course, this is his own. This is cameo, and we'll see what happens. This is, uh, anyway, if somebody can give, Rick some advice on when or when he should not be on camera.
Starting point is 00:56:52 That would be preferable because you know what it does, Brian? The whole thing, it just stinks. The whole situation is stinks, just stinks out loud. You know what else stinks out loud? A lot of people these days. Have you noticed this that a lot of people stink these days? I'm not talking about their attitude or their personality. I'm talking about the actual odiferousness of them that you can smell coming down the road.
Starting point is 00:57:18 you can smell it. Well, it depends where you go. Well, no, they're everywhere now. Because it's become a thing. It's like an epidemic. The, the BO epidemic of 2025 is now spread into 2026, but somebody's trying to do something about it, Brian, and you know as well as I do,
Starting point is 00:57:37 it's our friends at Mando. Mando is trying to do something about this because everybody makes New Year's resolutions. You're going to work out. You're going to learn to. speak some kind of language, you're going to lose weight, whatever, but one resolution that people have that is right within their reach right now is to smell better naked. And that's what the people at Mando are trying to help people do. Because, you know, again, Brian, if you've got clothes on,
Starting point is 00:58:08 then that can muffle some of the wafting of the stench. But if you're walking around naked, and even though it's wintertime, there are warmer climates. If you're walking around naked, and a breeze comes up the right direction. It can catch that shit and you can clear out of public park. As may, you've seen some of the video on the internet now of people walking down the street naked minding their own business
Starting point is 00:58:29 and suddenly everybody in the park just starts running. That's because they caught a breeze and it wafted the wrong way and whew, the Framunda smell from under the balls and next to the taint. That'll run you right out of the place. You know, there was an article in the paper this morning about a naked bandit they caught on camera
Starting point is 00:58:49 like daytime just running around naked robbing people's houses yes and how do you think he's going to feel if the cops catch him and haul him down there and on his mug shot it clearly says arrested for robbery and stinking bad you don't want that to be your
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Starting point is 00:59:28 there before. Well, no, and then I was going to see, you know what smells the worst? Usually, if you take this solid deodorant stick and just shove it right in, but you can pull it back and you'll be covered up where your poops will smell like purty flowers. Okay, once again, pits, balls, thigh folds, belly buttons, butt cracks, and feet, safe to use anywhere. on your body. Yes, and once again, on your body, not in your body. The difference in on or in, how far do you have to go in a cave before that you're really in it rather than just adjacent? This is created by a doctor and they are, he ought to know better who saw first. Listen, this is created by a doctor, Jim. You're saying the truth here now. Yes, created by a doctor who saw
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Starting point is 01:06:01 How far do you have to be in a cave before you consider to end the cave rather than just out on the outskirts? Just put the, just the tip in, and you wouldn't, you wouldn't smell bad anymore. Speaking of people who have a stinky reputation, did you see the special, I'm Chevy Chase and you're not on CNN over the New Year's weekend? I most certainly did. I couldn't wait to see it. And, well, I could wait to see it because I'd heard about it, but I thought it was on the streaming
Starting point is 01:06:33 shit. And so I said, well, I'll see it. I didn't know it was just on something I could set the DVR on, so I found it on the CNN on demand the day afterwards, and I caught up with it anyway. What do you think of Chevy? That's a complicated question, and I don't even know him. He's always been great to me. I enjoy the hell out of some of his roles, other of his roles or movies, maybe not so much.
Starting point is 01:07:05 he seems to me from afar to be a complete fucking asshole to everyone he encounters. And at one point when he was young and he had a hair, it was charming. And then the older he got, it just seemed more like, no, he's just a mean asshole. A mean old man. He's a mean old man. But again, the catch is, in being a mean asshole, he's fucking hysterical. See, that's where it comes back around. Even when he's not trying to be hysterical now,
Starting point is 01:07:40 he's hysterical unless he's always trying to be hysterical and it's kind of this twisted, not Don Rickles, but this twisted insult humor where he just goes to your core and tries to fuck with you. He's hysterical until he tries too hard and then he gets into the mean grumpiness. But at the same time, it's almost impossible not to feel
Starting point is 01:08:05 sorry for him in a way because there were other people at test of oh my God, he's one of the most caring nicest individuals that he has a good heart and and he was abused as a child apparently legitimately, horribly abused and he,
Starting point is 01:08:20 you know, blah, blah, blah. So you either love him because you have seen the carefully guarded inside or most people just hate him because he's a fucking prick. But I think here lies the problem, he's in two of my favorite all-time movies,
Starting point is 01:08:39 Caddyshack and vacation, right? And plus he established not only weekend update on Saturday Night Live, but the daily show or any comedy newscast comes from Chevy Chase being the anchorman. So, but the thing is, he's like a lot of guys in a wrestling business. He can only get over being himself. Because they said he wasn't a, when he tried to do the,
Starting point is 01:09:12 the talk show, host the talk show, the Chevy Chase show, he wasn't a stand-up comic. He could really do a monologue. He wasn't really an actor where he couldn't play different parts. He had to be Chevy Chase. And whether he was Chevy Chase being Clark Griswold or Chevy Chase being, you know, Fletch or whatever, he had to be Chevy. And if he couldn't do that thing, it didn't work.
Starting point is 01:09:45 So, I mean, that's not unusual in entertainment. Think about the wrestlers or the other actors sometimes or musicians that you just have to let them be them, and it doesn't work. unless they're being them. And like you said, when he was young and he was hot, I don't mean hot in appearance, I mean hot popularity, they wrote roles for Chevy Chase in these movies.
Starting point is 01:10:16 But then after a while, he got older and it kind of got old to beat Chevy Chase. And then he couldn't do anything else. He was like Bob Denver after Gilligan's Island, right? To an extent, I mean, again, I think a lot of it was the film choices, his reputation.
Starting point is 01:10:37 He had a very public feud with Howard Stern like in the early 90s, which it kind of exposed a little bit of like Chevy's way of being. And it was kind of an exposure like this guy's a complete asshole. He could be an asshole but he couldn't take assholeish.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Right. Against him. He, you know, he didn't. He has to be the chief asshole. If you even try to one up him, there's going to be a problem. Remember, they did a... Comedy Central did a celebrity roast at Chevy Chase at least 20 years ago, maybe a little more now at this point.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And almost no one you would associate with Chevy Chase showed up. Like they had Lorraine Newman, Hal Franken... They had the person who has replaced Lorraine Newman, who looks nothing like Lorraine Newman. I think it's a body double. Well, she's an older woman now, but... well, not all of her face is as old as the rest of her. But yeah, he's a complicated, you know, again, even just the decision to leave Saturday Night Live, a year and a half into it.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I mean, a year and a half is a pretty quick period of time, and he was gone, like right away. Well, and I was watching it every week at that point, and he was the hottest thing on television, and everybody was talking about him, and that's, they even said in the documentary, that's another thing he never worked hard on his career he had other people tell him oh you should do this you should do that go to the movies blah blah blah blah he didn't really he never took anything for the for the arts sake for the you know I want this role or I've got it blah it was just whatever
Starting point is 01:12:24 and I think that bit him too and then again like he said he just came off so wrong to so many people that didn't get into his inner circle and know the real Chevy down deep that and the thing with community where he got, nobody from that show wanted to be on and finally they got the,
Starting point is 01:12:49 was the director whose last name I cannot pronounce. Oh, that guy was great. That guy was great because he loved Chevy and he realized how fucked up Chevy was. And he didn't want to do it at first, but then he agreed to do the thing. But I love him, but yeah, he's fucking, and, but when he
Starting point is 01:13:06 emitted the racial slur that followed him to the, you know, the end of his, of the show there, he was actually complaining about that the writers were making his character racist, but in
Starting point is 01:13:21 saying, what am I going to do next say that? Then they all hated him anyways. They were, no, he's using that language. If they'd have a lot of, liked him, there probably would have a problem because he was making a valid point as his contention is. But instead, they're like, fuck this fucking guy. They literally said that they would film his stuff first early in the day so they can get
Starting point is 01:13:44 rid of him off the set and film the rest of the show, which is remarkable for a hit show. I mean, that they would have to do that. But it's a, it's a, once again, a very interesting look at a guy who, you would have thought as big a star as he was at one point in time from what 1975 through the end of the 80s maybe. No, to the mid-90s, even after the talk show. He was still a big star, still a big star. Well, that's right, because the talk show was 93 and he was still a big star.
Starting point is 01:14:16 That's why he got it. And he wasn't as big a star afterwards. But the last 30 years, you know, it's like, yeah. And the one show he was on that people were watching. He left and they didn't like him. So I hate that because he was such a, you know, a figure at one point on, and he was the symbol of the new era of television, the counterculture, Saturday Night Live, the young people taking over.
Starting point is 01:14:50 It's Chevy Chase. I'm Chevy Chase and you're not. And then, be. And look at how things that flipped too. Saturday Night Live was the alternative to the, to the world of the Carol Burnett show and stuff like that. Yeah. And now it is that.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Yeah. Now that's exactly what it is. It's not the counterculture entertainment hour anymore, 90 minutes anymore. You know, just because they made that remark in the documentary, they ought to have Carol Burnett on Saturday Night Live next week. She's still alive. She still does me TV commercials where she's talking of Perry Mason. Yes, that's why I said they should have her.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I didn't expect they were going to go dig her the fuck up. What do you think I'm saying to you? here. Yeah, they'd have a dead person on Saturday Night Live next week. Is Vicki Lawrence alive? They'll need to put Mando on him. Is Vicki Lawrence alive? Well, she was pretty frisky the last time I went over to her place, but, uh, there it is.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Hey, that was the night the lights went out in Burbank, baby. Hey, listen here. You mentioned vacation. You mentioned Caddyshack. can't argue classics. I know almost every line to those movies. You didn't say Fletch. I know.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I didn't say when Chevy was he was Fletch or he was Clark Griswold or whatever. I liked the first Fletch. The second one, no, the second one's the beginning of the end of Chevy's film career, if you really want to think about it. Funny Farm and Fletch 2.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Yeah. Fletch lives or whatever it was. Fletch lives, that's right, that's right. Yeah. Nothing but trouble. Yes. Did you ever see nothing with trouble with Dan Aykroyd and Chevy and Demi Moore and John Candy? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Where Dan Aykroy plays the old judge. Kind of looks like Rick Flair now. He plays the old judge. And then he also plays like these two giant-sized babies. And Chevy and Demiore get stuck in Vulcanvania in this crazy house with garbage and shoots and they have a roller coaster that eats people. Okay. Hey, maybe we've now come to another reason why Chevy's career. He's a stockbroker, and he's trying to get to Atlantic City, and he gets pulled over,
Starting point is 01:17:06 and he ends up in Vulcanvania. I don't care if they were, they liked him or not. He could have been Mother Teresa, and that movie would have still bombed. Caddyshack, too, that's one of the worst movies ever. That's one of the most disappointing, awful movies ever. And, and you know, Chevy's got a wrestling connection, kind of, because he had injuries from all those. bumps that he took.
Starting point is 01:17:29 As a matter of fact, he had to take, this was big news at one time on the first season of Saturday Night Live. He had to take a couple of shows off because he fucked himself up some kind of way, taking one of the bumps. He phoned in from the hospital. I remember that one on the show.
Starting point is 01:17:44 That's right. And the girl sang a song to him. Oh, Chevy, Chevy, we love when you fall down. That's right. It's Saturday night on my TV. Oh, but Chevy, every time that you fall down. I wish that you were falling, falling for me. Yeah. See there? That's impressive. I mean, that's how big a story was so quickly. And again, he just walked off the show, which created a spot for Bill Murray, who then
Starting point is 01:18:15 tried to punch out Chevy when Chevy was doing because the rest of the kid, they didn't even go into the fact that, like, Garrett Morris is like, oh, me and Chevy were always like this. Well, the rest of the cast fucking hated him at various points. to the point where they were having fist fights right before airtime. And I don't know, you know, Bill Murray and Chevy Chase, that might have been evenly matched back then. They were both kind of fucking pale and pasty and, I'd give either one of them a shot.
Starting point is 01:18:44 I would have put my money on Bill Murray. Even though Chevy was kind of at his peak and he was a taller guy, Bill Murray grew up with a bunch of brothers. Well, besides, Murray had more animosity behind it. Yeah. Chevy was the star and Murray was, you know, he was trying to get there. Murray still had a mustache. He hadn't figured things out yet.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Anyway, well, you can see that on CNN. If you're a Chevy Chase fan or ex fan, or if you're somebody looking, I guess, for some kind of material on filing a lawsuit against Chevy Chase for doing something. He was in dirty work. One of my favorite awful movies that gets better every time you see it because it's so funny and so stupid. It's stupid funny.
Starting point is 01:19:27 It's Norm McDonald and Artie Lang. And Chevy plays... And it's like in the late 90s. This is how far it had fallen by the point. He plays like a doctor who owes gambling money and needs to get these boys to do things because he won't help their sick dad unless they do it. He needs to get these boys to do things.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Well, he's barely in the movie. He's only in like a few scenes, but like that's how far he had fallen by that point in the late 90s, the fact that he had gone. from, you know, there weren't any more national lampoon vacations. No, he was, he was not, uh, he was not able to afford the, uh, the good vacations. He had to like do the Princess Cruz thing and sing in the lounge. Like Vegas vacation to me, I'd ever like, because that's in that period where
Starting point is 01:20:11 Chevy law, I did like memoirs of an invisible man and everyone puts it down and John Carpenter said it almost caused him to leave the film industry, he hated working with Chevy. That was the actual quote. Like, I hated working with him. I almost wanted to quit. ever was. But I like that movie.
Starting point is 01:20:28 I thought that movie was kind of cool. And can you, he's 82 years old. Because I'm used to people being old now because I'm old. But he was 32 years old when he was a breakout overnight sensation on Saturday Night Live. So one would have thought, and it was true for many of them,
Starting point is 01:20:49 that all those people were in their 20s and just the new fresh faces. But even, which goes to show. show you that he was a late bloomer. He hadn't done shit before he was 32, except being the first incarnation of Steely Dan in college. It is one of the more... That's another one weird little tidbit where, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:11 it's like, oh, yeah, I was at Bard College and me and Fagan and Becker got together and started a band. Like, what? I wouldn't have believed it, but they had video. Yeah, no, it's real. It's a real story. Christopher Guest was apparently there because what did the guy say? when he ran into Christopher guest
Starting point is 01:21:26 and he's like, join the production we're doing. And the guy said, oh, I know Chevy, I can bring Chevy. He's like, he didn't like Chevy. But also, he was in the groove tube.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Because that's one of all the all-time favorite movies, early 70s movies, but just as one of the miscellaneous cast of Madcap players that was in it. And now they're honest about the cocaine. I mean, they had a good amount of cocaine stories. They could have had more. But I remember when they did the roast, Al Franken, he killed me with this.
Starting point is 01:21:59 He came out there and he goes, you know, you may remember in the mid-80s, Chevy was brave enough to announce publicly that he was going away because of his addiction to back pills. And I remember back in the old days of Saturday Night Live, I remember the guy used to bring Chevy's back pills to the show. His name was Ronnie Sunshine. Chevy loses it for a second. He was in my complete control, no-seller. selling everything, that got them.
Starting point is 01:22:28 That got them. Backpills. Well, you know, some of our sponsors have, well, no, that would have been a good segue, but we have no sponsors that sell the back pills on today's program. But you know, Brian, as a segue here, we've heard Rick Flair saying people should never get married. We've heard people saying that Chevy Chase was an asshole. Now what happens if you're an idiot with a brother that wants to get married and you've got to do a video?
Starting point is 01:23:09 You don't go to Rick Flair, you don't go to Cameo, you go to some random schmo with a phone, and you have them record it, and it still might not always go according to plan. if Darby Allen is involved. Have you seen this clip where they tried to reenact the Pink Floyd album cover of the guy shaking hands with the guy that's on fire? Wish you were here, that's right.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yeah, well, they didn't wish they were there. Apparently, and this is on the internet again, I'm not sure exactly where you have to go to find this little 15 seconds of footage or whatever. But Darby Allen's brother was going to propose marriage to his intended, betrothed financier, fiancé, whatever. And they got somebody to record it. And Darby apparently and his brother got together and figured that the best way they could do this
Starting point is 01:24:15 is if they bring this poor girl, this woman that is the intended victim of all this, they brought her to what where were they is it like an empty swimming pool they're in a giant concrete bowl like a swimming pool has been drained of water or a skate park maybe a skate park yeah is there in a big concrete bowl and the girl doesn't know why she's been brought there
Starting point is 01:24:44 and I can't believe those two actually got a female to go to a goddamn deserted location with them Darby's brother gets down on one knee to start to ask the girl, will you marry me? And Darby sets the son of a bitch on fire. Am I lying so far, Brian?
Starting point is 01:25:07 No, the brother was lit on fire. And when Darby lights the brother on fire, the brother then is going to do the fucking proposal while he's kneeling there on fire. But from what it looked like to me watching the video, The girl said, what the fuck is happening? And ran off. She ran off away from the get.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Now the guy's kneeling there on fire, reaching out to the hand of the betrothed that he's trying to do the proposal. And she's running. She's like screaming, running away. And then the guy realizes, well, shit, I'm on fire. And he jumps up and starts dropping and rolling in a conval. Goddamn dry swimming pool. It's not like he's rolling in grass or dirt, or he's just rolling on concrete,
Starting point is 01:26:00 and he's still burning, and they come in with a fire extinguisher. And put his fucking ass out. Now, I don't know how that turned out as far as the proposal went. Did she ever, did she scream back from the rim of the pool? fuck you I ain't married you you you fucking idiot you just gave me a heart attack
Starting point is 01:26:26 or did she accept once they put him out and he stopped smoldering or what well I have the original post here that Darby Allen put up I'm watching it on a loop right now on Instagram on Instagram Darby Allen wrote marriage proposal gone wrong my brother wanted me to light him on fire
Starting point is 01:26:49 and he had a all said that out loud. Yes, especially in family gatherings. My brother wanted me to light him on fire and asked his girlfriend to marry him. She got cold feet and took off running instead of putting him out with the fire extinguisher.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Wait a minute. What is he trying to say it was her job to put him out? Maybe it wasn't meant to be. Maybe it wasn't to be. No meant. Maybe it wasn't to be. To be or not to be? burned alive. So they're blaming the
Starting point is 01:27:25 poor girl because she didn't how would you know if you didn't know what was coming that you're supposed to and what order does it come in? Do you say yes and then put the guy out with the fire extinguisher? Or do you put him out first and then say yes?
Starting point is 01:27:42 What's the protocol? By the way, fire extinguisher she's holding like a white bottle not the red classic fire extinguisher and she tries to hand at the Darby who won't take it, she puts it on the ground that runs away. Is that the fire extinguisher? That must be the fire extinguisher.
Starting point is 01:27:58 So they handed this poor girl a fire extinguisher. This guy kneels down in front of her and the other guy sets him on fire. What would you do? What if this was the big reveal that he was crazy? Like, what if somehow, like, he met a girl, she thought she was dating, so maybe a little weird, but, you know, kind of normal he has a job or something. Maybe he has some good records. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:19 And then one day they're just walking down the street All of a sudden lights himself on fire You gotta really love someone to say yes I'll marry you fireman I'll marry you human torture Blame on I'm watching it again there He goes rolling she goes running away in one direction
Starting point is 01:28:42 He goes rolling the other direction Here's the thing Maybe it wouldn't have worked out because if your wife sees you on fire and she runs away from you rather than, I don't know, take her top off and fucking smother the flames, whatever, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:00 That's a real test of love. What would you do? That is a real test. Like, either she'll marry me or she'll put me out or she'll just not do any of these things and she's not the law. If you won't either marry me or put me out when I'm on fire.
Starting point is 01:29:16 She chose letting him burn. for me. She chose let him burn and run. I mean, we're laughing, but this is... Darby's pointing at it, brother. He's like, put him out, put about, the girl just drops the thing and runs. But now, come on, now, straighten up here now,
Starting point is 01:29:41 because we're laughing, but in all seriousness, these are not like 17-year-old kids you get, oh, they'll grow out of it. They're fucking morons, but we're all morons. We're teenagers, whatever. How old is Darby Allen now? 30-something years old. And I don't know if was his brother an oversight, you know, when the family they thought
Starting point is 01:30:06 they were done. Is he a young fucking idiot or is he about the same age? They thought this would be a good idea on any level. So is it time that we. stop thinking, well, he's just a goofy kid and start to realize, no, he's just a goofy fucking adult. 32 years old. Does the average 32-year-old guy think that it would be a good idea to set his brother on fire for a marriage proposal? Unless you're Johnny Knoxville or the fellow that used to tuck his dick, whatever his name was.
Starting point is 01:30:48 I don't know. I think John Knoxville is a big. Old Dick Tucker. I don't know who you're talking. I don't know who old Dick Tucker is, but. Well, I'm doing these jackass people. They got to be goddamn old now, the ones that are still alive and haven't killed themselves.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Would that obviously? Would they be the only people that would think this was a good idea that's over the age of 17 and three quarters? Probably. I mean, maybe they had a really great idea. I don't know. Maybe he was going to roll into the woods and start a forest fire. I really don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:16 There's no fucking woods. I didn't see a ladder. I don't know how they got down there. There's no water. There's no hose. There's one fire extinguisher. And there's not even a goddamn ladder to get out of that place. They wanted to make sure that nobody else caught fire while he burned to death.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Now, to be fair, he hasn't died yet. And we've seen him, has he been lit on fire? I know his brother's been lit on fire. Darby's been throwing off. No, they know. no, they put, they set Darby on fire a couple times. He's been on fire a few times. He's been thrown off
Starting point is 01:31:52 all sorts of things from high distances and we've seen him jump houses and cars. I think being being high has a lot to do with all of this. No, he's drug free apparently. That's the problem. He needs to get high. And then to be like, what the fuck am I doing
Starting point is 01:32:08 on my life? If ever there was a poster boy for please take drugs, it would have to be this fucking guy. Well, see what happened. Maybe Sting could talk to him, but I can't you imagine if Dusty had come in at the first clash of champions and okay,
Starting point is 01:32:27 we wanted you and Flair to go for an hour, but goddamn, we don't have the time, so go 44 minutes and then we're going to get the flame thrower. What the what? The idea that the woman that he felt he loved so much he was going to ask to marry him, that her reaction was
Starting point is 01:32:50 to Darby point the at him and say, put him out with the thing they just handed her clearly. Her reaction was, oh my God, let me hand this to you. You won't take it. I'm going to put her on the ground and run away. She didn't try to do anything to help this guy. This guy could have burned to death.
Starting point is 01:33:04 The cops would have shut up and what happened? And they would have pointed the finger at her. Is this her fault? She wouldn't be, begging her to put him out. Who would be ascribed blame in a situation like that when the cops get there. Oh, that's interesting. The guy's burned to a crisp, but Darby can say, well, no, he asked
Starting point is 01:33:25 me to do it. Well, but at the same point, if you, if you go over to the fucking park and just in the middle of broad daylight, say, hey, would you take this gun and shoot me? And you shoot the guy, does that mean when the cops get there? Oh, well, he asked you to do it. Okay. No worries then. Go on about your business. Yeah. And, you know, when productions do something, usually you know, they go through the right channels. It's not just, hey, I can light people on fire wherever I want because they say, no, there's actually trained professionals and or crew members and or people standing by with safety measures and or a professional film crew, not some jackoff slacker want to be
Starting point is 01:34:09 with a fucking iPhone shooting two morons at the bottom of a swimming pool setting each other on fucking fire. So, so, and again, did, did you? she violate some kind of good Samaritan law? She's in front of a guy who's been set on fire. She's holding a fire extinguisher. She chose not to act. I think she's an accomplice.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I think they're all going to jail. Your Honor, she had no idea what they handed her. She didn't know what it was. She thought it could have been lighter fluid. These two brothers are crazy. They're always lighting things on fire. They helped light this guy swerve's house on fire. They've been lighting all sorts of things on fire.
Starting point is 01:34:48 She had no idea. God damn. Arsenist. Arsenist wrestling is what we've got here. These people are all firebugs. I don't know that that's the right way to start a life together off anyway. Do you? I feel like we see him do more like private, I don't know if you call him angles.
Starting point is 01:35:10 We see him do more private angles than we do like him do stuff on AEW TV. Whenever he's off AEW TV, he's never like he's gone. It's always like, oh, let's see what adventure he's on on social media. See, remember like when Doug Bash. him came into my OVW TV with a bald head and I cussed and screamed at the fucking writers. Well, I cussed and screamed at Johnny A's through,
Starting point is 01:35:31 through him to the writers for not telling me so I could have booked the hair match. Here's what they should have done. They should have come to television. And they should have had Darby turn heel by setting his own brother on fire while he's trying to propose to his wife. And then he could, Darby could reveal, I've always wanted her. and he set the son of a bitch on fire so that he could have her. What a heal he'd be.
Starting point is 01:36:00 They just wasted it. Oh, well. Well, at least you shared the idea if Tony changes his mind. Well, see, now it's been done, though. And he's going to have to wait until his brother finds another girl that'll talk to him because they scared this one off. Speaking of scaring women off, Brian, there's another, well, I happily, I won't say another.
Starting point is 01:36:27 There's a happily married couple over in the WWE that neither one of them had to set the other on fire to get the wedding accomplished. And as Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch, did you ever remember hearing either of them got set on fire at the wedding or anything, the proposal, the honeymoon? I understand there was some smoke on the honeymoon.
Starting point is 01:36:53 I haven't heard anything about any arson. Friction, friction. you understand. You get going too fast. But apparently our friend Seth Rollins, Brian, not happy with me or our friend shitstain, aka Vince Rousseau. This was while we were on break.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Seth did an interview with somebody somewhere for some reason and was asked to compare the two of us, me and old Vinny Rue. And although I came out the best of it, because old Vinny Rue was without any redeeming quality whatsoever, I got a caveat or two at a couple of nice things, but apparently Becky's still mad at me for saying that she was crazy when she got pregnant a couple years ago
Starting point is 01:37:49 while she was making more money than the federal government had ever printed before, right in the middle of the biggest run of her life, and boom, self-inflicted injury, unforced error, she's on the sidelines. I said, what the fuck? Rotten timing. And boy, that must have made an impression. Because my former friend old Tyler Black
Starting point is 01:38:12 has not been able to come out with a full-throated endorsement of me since then. So he's obviously trying to keep everything nice and placid at home. but should Becky really be that mad at me for what I said? I didn't say anything personal about him. Otherwise, and she just cost the family millions of dollars. But I didn't think she'd take it that fucking hard. Well, you don't think this is just him being mad on his own? No.
Starting point is 01:38:45 And he wouldn't have said anything good about me at all. Well, did you listen to the tone of things going on and you... We have the audio. That's why I'm saying you can determine, for yourself whether you think that he is classifying both of us the same way or whether he's just trying to say enough about me
Starting point is 01:39:01 to keep the things again nice and calm at the homestead. We'll see about that. This is Seth Franklin Rollins talking to Jay Moore. Apparently Jay Moore is a show and the name of the show is Moore Stories.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Who is Jay Moore? He's a comedian. No, he played Dennis the Minutes. on television, didn't he? That was Jay North. Jay North. Oh, I'm thinking of Tonto on the Lone Ranger.
Starting point is 01:39:31 No, Jay Moore's a comedian. No, that was Jay Silverheels. Well, he's now married to Jeannie Bus, who's the head of, wow, women of wrestling. Who? Seth Franklin Rollins has married Jeannie Bus now? No, Jay Moore. I believe.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Seth Rollins married Jay Moore? All right, let's go to the audio. Here's Seth Rollins. that but I did have like a high school teacher that said you know you're never going to work with that voice you have to learn how to speak like a normal person and years later when I was on the nanny and they interviewed my parents um they asked my my parents if when I was a little kid did you know seem like I had that's Seth Rollins couldn't you tell masculated him. See, that's Seth Rollins. But now, let's go to the real audio here.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Seth Rollins on a Jay Moore show. Who side are you on? Jim Cornett, the tennis racket guy? Cornett, yeah. Jim Cornett versus the Vince guy, the writer. Rousseau? Yes. So I hate them both.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Cornett says when I... I hate them both. I think they're both jackasses. But if you had to... If you were like, were like, gunned to your head, which one would you side with? As a fan, I mean, I kind of want to hang out with Cornyette a little more. So I've hung out with Cornet because Cornell was a booker of mine.
Starting point is 01:41:02 No, he was fine. He's super entertaining. I mean, the guy, I mean, he can still cut a promo. He just, he's a victim of the hot take culture where, like, he has to say the craziest thing that come to his brain. And he does how he makes his money on his podcast. George Animal Steelers Down syndrome. So, so, yeah, but he's all, like, Shockwave's the goat.
Starting point is 01:41:25 He's an idiot. Fucking Joe. They're both idiots, but if I had to pick one, I'd be Cornett. See, a clear endorsement. A clear endorsement for me right there. And he said what he had to say to placate Becky, who's still wounded, I'm sure, about what I had said about their spawn. He said, I hate them both.
Starting point is 01:41:47 He hates you. He just said he hates you. But then he said, said nice things about me. I hate him, but if I think about it, I wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for him, fuck, I gotta say nice things if I really think about it. But I hate him. How can I say this without making my wife mad, but at the same time,
Starting point is 01:42:07 stick somewhat to the truth? I can right now be in T&A waiting for the big AMC debut. But I do agree with him. Veruso's not entertaining. and I am. So see, we found common ground again, Seth. Before you even get more of what Rollins had to say there,
Starting point is 01:42:28 how did you like the way the question was set up? What is your take on Jim Cornett, the tennis racket guy and the Vince guy? The Vince Ryder guy. This guy is obviously a wrestling expert that, you know, was really going to ask the hard questions of, was this some type of media production for him to,
Starting point is 01:42:49 well, I guess what's he selling? Surgery? He's off. He's hurt. He's injured. What was he selling or advertising on this appearance? I don't know. Just himself, apparently.
Starting point is 01:43:02 I guess he's just had time on his hands and he's getting paid one way and the other. Too much time on my hands. Tick, tick, and away. He'll probably do a lot more interviews. I love Seth. I love Seth. What a talent he is. He's tremendous.
Starting point is 01:43:16 And yes, he's correct. I was in continuing. to be very entertaining. Is he correct that he hates you? Do you think he really hates you? I don't think. I don't think if we were in the same room together and he had a blunt instrument in his hand,
Starting point is 01:43:31 I don't believe that he would cave my skull in. I would think that there would be other people standing in line to do that well before Seth Rollins. Don't you think if he came up to you and wanted to start shit, you can take out his legs pretty easily because they're all fucked up? Well, see, I would feel bad about doing that because I've had the knee problems before. It would make me all skeevy to take out somebody else's bad knees.
Starting point is 01:43:56 I would just, like you just did, remind him that he'd still be waiting on the AMC premiere if it hadn't been for me down in T&A. And then, who paid for that kid? Huh? Well, your wife was off and unproductive. Who paid for that kid? That's right. It was what I did for you, pal.
Starting point is 01:44:18 No, but I'm sure he's he's still again placating his domestic situation while begrudgingly admitting that Then he would say, you know, he said it before somewhere, I don't even remember where, but it was, I'm mad at Jim Cornett right now, or something like that.
Starting point is 01:44:36 He's kind of very casual, I'm not happy with him, not I hate him. That's another jump. It's not a big compliment. I hate him and yet I'd save him over Vince Rousseau. Like that's, is that a big compliment to you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Well, it just goes to show that even the threat of Becky Lynch giving him a proper tongue lashing when he got home after that interview, he still had to say something good about. So I'd imagine if she wasn't around and she wasn't mad at me, he'd be effusive with praise for me. Well, there you go. We'll see. I mean, thank God he got the WWE got out of the,
Starting point is 01:45:22 that fucking speedo whatever he was wearing early in his career. But Jim, this is your show. Back then he had a speedo fucking physique, and now it's it's more of an elder statesman type of thing with the
Starting point is 01:45:36 long pants. But it is my show. You know, and you know what, Brian, I'll tell you what. Just that interview that Seth Rollins did right there, it would have been all kinds of different if he
Starting point is 01:45:52 didn't know that Becky Lynch was going to be listening to it. And what he should have done was before he left the house, he should have said, Hey, Becky, I got a present for you. I want you to stick these in your ears in your holes and listen to them until I get home. And I'm talking about the Raycon everyday earbuds and the Raycon products that they have at Buyraycon.com. And the ear holes, just to be clear. And the ear holes, yes.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Well, they don't sell you earholes. You've got to have those. If you don't have ear holes, ladies and gentlemen, I encourage you don't go to buy raycon.com, because they won't be able to help you. They make great gifts. Well, the ear holes? Yes, you don't have some.
Starting point is 01:46:39 You'll take them from anybody. The essential open your bones. I mean, you'll be happy to see the son of a bitch has come to you from any location. If you do not have ear holes, it's going to open up a whole new world for you to get some holes. And as a matter of if you don't have ear holes right now, I'm
Starting point is 01:46:55 sure that maybe if you'd take a flathead screwdriver and apply yourself, you could make some, but whatever you've got to do to modify your head so that you can get the new essential open earbuds from Raycon. Well, right there,
Starting point is 01:47:10 and that's if Becky had been listening to those. She'd have been off in her own little world. Seth Rollins could have said how he really feels that I'm a genius and that he owes everything in his career to me, and everything would have been right with the world. So that's what you need to do, ladies and gentlemen. Do not go after these more expensive brand of earbuds,
Starting point is 01:47:33 because you know what, the RACONs are half the price because they're not at RACON, they're not paying for these celebrity endorsements, just me. They're not paying all the retail markup prices that you get where you go to sell them at these. big box retailers and everybody's got their handout one to take a piece, as things fall off the truck and get sold for discounts and somebody else gets the money,
Starting point is 01:47:59 don't go to a retailer. Go straight to Raycon because Raycon, none of that big box store stuff, none of the second hands dipping into the till, they've got a crew of very dedicated people selling these things at high schools across the country and parking lots out of a Ford Econnelline ban. And that's the way that they can keep the price half of what the more expensive brands are. That's not the way. That's the way you would think because
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Starting point is 01:53:35 Well, they've got information overload by Raycon.com slash JCE Open. percent off sidewide, you will be overloaded with savings on the Raycons. Uh-huh. There we go. Some more Seth Rollins laughing at us. All righty. Speaking of laughing at people, should we start talking about the AEW pay-per-view? I mean, it happened as we sit here now about nine or ten days ago.
Starting point is 01:54:12 and people know the results of the matches, and I could really give a shit what the results of the matches were, but it was newsworthy more for the commentary that we have to make and commentary that some other industry professionals have already made on the fact that these dipshitships are going to kill themselves if somebody doesn't rein them in. and this was the theme of the show all night long was who's going to get hurt the worst it was like a competition that they were trying and again especially it will talk about poor old Kyle Feltcher here to second but especially him
Starting point is 01:55:04 I'm astonished that he's not a quadriplegic. And this is not, some wise ass, it's never been in the ring and never sniffed a goddamn kneepad, is going to say, well, that's because they know what they're doing. They're professionals. Cornett just won't admit it. It was sheer dumb fucking luck that this guy walked away from this move. Dumb fucking luck.
Starting point is 01:55:34 And I'm not the only one saying it because it's obvious. But again, the AW fans go crazy. It's the old people that don't know about today's modern wrestling or it's, well, they don't say anything about the WWE when they, yes, we do. We do. We talk about it all the time when everybody drops each other. other on their fucking head. So that argument is at best.
Starting point is 01:56:12 It's a bunch of fucking guys that don't realize what they're doing to themselves or the business because the accumulated damage that they are suffering is going to bite them in the ass one of these days, but one of these big moves will be an immediate ass bite when the guy can't get it. Well, they've already had people that couldn't get up and had to be carted off. At least nobody's been permanently paralyzed. This was the closest they've come.
Starting point is 01:56:47 But it's not just going to bite them in the ass sooner or later, but it damages the business because you've got these goofy fans watching these goofy wrestlers get up from shit that they, if they were working it, they ought to stay down for a month and sell the fucking angle and draw some money, but they pop back to their feet because they're scared,
Starting point is 01:57:11 they might not be able to get up and they jump back up and do some more shit. Oh, I'm okay. And then the fans just, oh, well, that didn't hurt anybody. So next time he's got to fall 20 feet instead of 10 or it's got to be even more dangerous. And then they eventually the prophecy will fulfill itself. So not only has Tony again. delivered another masturbatory Meltzer fantasy where everybody went 20 minutes or more
Starting point is 01:57:48 and did every goddamn move they could do and nothing beat anybody. And the basics and the overall work of everybody involved in these things was the shits, but the danger level was off the charts and they hit half the things They tried, so Uncle Dave thinks everything's six stars.
Starting point is 01:58:14 And meanwhile, it was the same thing as always. Five hours or more of nonstop chaos and bullshit amongst heels versus heels, baby faces versus baby faces, people who are not affiliated with each other in any way, just being thrown together for multiple man matches and tournament. So would you like to hit the high points before we talk about the meat of the matter, Brian? Yeah, I'm surprised you watched any of this. I watched a pay-per-view.
Starting point is 01:58:51 I didn't expect you to. So I'm pretty surprised that you checked out a good deal of this. When I had not a good deal. When MJF won the belt, which we knew he was going to, because that's the only thing they could have done, I knew I was going to watch that match. But then when I saw some of the other clips, I thought, my God.
Starting point is 01:59:11 and the thing with Kyle. And I said, all right, what I'm going to do is, since I've got this whole thing, I'm going to zip through in a couple of these matches, I'm going to just drop in on and see if there's any hope for any of these people. You'll never guess what the answer is. But the pre-show, Brian, you need to help me with a little bit
Starting point is 01:59:37 because the pre-show, of course, that's where they put on a show before the show. and they had four matches on the pre-show this time. Julia Hart and Blue Sky beat Hyen and Maya World. Now, these are the two that they brought in when the other two girls wouldn't do the job for two other girls a few weeks ago. And I've still, I've never heard these names set out loud.
Starting point is 02:00:08 I just read the results of the pre-show. So is this a girl named, Hyan and a girl named Maya World, or are these the world sisters, Hyen and Maya? I don't know for sure. It's definitely- Does anybody else? It's definitely Maya World, and the other one, I presume, was- And you're welcome to it. I presume the other one was Hy-on.
Starting point is 02:00:32 Hi-on! Hi-on! Hi-yo! Well, that happened. Eddie Kingston beat Zach Gibson. I know they were probably celebrating in Vegas. Mascaro Dorito and Bandito teamed up to beat fat-ass Davis and Rocky Romero. And then they had the obligatory eight-man tag team match where Hong Kong Fooey, Kevin Knight, Jungle Jackoff, and Dino apparently beat Rickache, his two stooges,
Starting point is 02:01:04 and Josh Alexander, who were in two different heel groups. And Dino is hurt, so they, they put him in the match, but they covered it up some kind of way. That was the pre-show. Then the pay-per-view started, and we don't have to go too long into the pay-per-view before we get to the meet of the matter. For one, the first match was the semi-final of the Continental Breakfast Tournament. Oh, boring and take a shit, one-on-one, this long-awaited grudge match
Starting point is 02:01:41 where they've stared at each other and made faces each other while they lost the power of speech. Oh, boring, beat him! I swear to God! Tony Kahn has spent millions of dollars for these lazy, broken down, no good, nothing happening, Japanese ex-superstars. With Okada being the biggest example
Starting point is 02:02:07 of getting nothing for a lot, he's lazy, he doesn't try, he can't talk, he can't work. He's a, if ever, Ernie Ladd's words, you're stealing from AEW wrestling. We're more applicable, I can't imagine. And then they got, our boy take that at least he's got the size, he's got the youth,
Starting point is 02:02:33 he's not broken down yet with a proper manager. He could fucking be a top heel. And they beat him with his fucking guy. guy. Well, again, it's a tournament. They want to set up Okada, the previous champion, going to the finals. We could discuss his championship, the unified title when we get to that match. Well, and then the second match in the tournament was Moxley, our friend Dick the Boozer,
Starting point is 02:03:06 against Kyle Feltcher. Same thing with Kyle. We compared him a couple weeks ago to Austin Theory. Theory's got all the advantages. Theory's a better worker right now. Theory has better minds around him. Theory's in a better group. Theory's got Paul Heyman.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Poor Kyle's out here on his own, having 25-minute five-star classics with fucking Steamboat's daughter. But at least he's young and he's got athletic potential and he looks good at blah, blah, blah. You don't want Kyle in your finals of your tournament. you don't want take a shit the finals of your tournament you want dick the boozer the world's
Starting point is 02:03:50 worst pushed wrestler and the laziest son of a bitch on your roster so again every time Tony has a decision to make he makes the wrong one but in this one this is where moxley nearly killed Kyle and what i did was with these matches I knew they were going 20 minutes or more, so I would let him ring the bell, and I'd skip ahead 15 minutes, see what I could see. And they went way over 20 in this thing, but as they were doing it, Brian, you tell me,
Starting point is 02:04:29 because I don't know, I've only been watching wrestling 50 years. Moxley gets behind, they're on the top turnbuckle. Kyle's sitting on the top buckle. Moxley climbs up behind him, gets Sergeant Slaughter's cobra clutch on Kyle and then stands up and back suplexes him with a cobra clutch hold on like a superplex off the turnbuckles and he drove him right down in the middle of the ring on top of his fucking head.
Starting point is 02:05:11 But what was it supposed to be? what bump was he supposed to take? I legitimately don't know. Was Kyle supposed to go all the way over and land on his stomach? Well, that was a stupid fucking move because it doesn't really make sense with the way that he had him, that that would be the only safe way to take it, but that it wouldn't look right.
Starting point is 02:05:40 And the only other way to take this bump would have been the way they did. which would be, I'm going to jerk you off the top rope, 10 feet in the air, and drop you in the middle of the ring on top of your fucking head. So, Brian, did you have any kind of epiphany on what this was supposed to be before it went so dangerously, allegedly wrong? No, I don't think there's a safe bump. You know, if you think about it, like you said, the best case scenario is he flips all the way around,
Starting point is 02:06:15 lands on his belly. but that wasn't going to happen. And that would be stupid and not even a natural reaction of the move that he was being given. No, it really didn't look good. Also, the other thing is it wasn't the finish. It wasn't even a necessary thing. It'd be one thing. We're going to do the craziest thing ever.
Starting point is 02:06:33 It's the finish. I'm not saying that justifies it. This was just another move on the way to the finish. Well, and that's the thing is it. Well, you had, you had Okada and. take a shit. It looked like synchronized swimming underwater with fake strikes and horrible basics and sloppy shit and no facials except for the goofy faces.
Starting point is 02:06:59 And then they botched the finish where in the Continental Classic is supposed to be no interference. Okada goes to use the screwdriver. But they got their timing off and he missed him the first time and had to hit him the second time, and the referee had to turn his back for no reason twice. And the fans bullshit booted. But then this thing with Moxley and Kyle, and by the way, they're suddenly cheering Moxley now, because even though he has not turned or done anything, because again, this
Starting point is 02:07:38 is the first two matches on the show were heels versus heels. So now they're cheering for Moxley. the guy that's been pouring bleached down people's throats for a year and we never did find out what the fuck the whole goddamn death writer's thing is and now they're the good guys because the fans are bored and picking who they're going to cheer for themselves
Starting point is 02:07:59 and you've when you've lost control enough to where the fans are just cheering for the people they like regardless of the presentation you've made a tragic error to begin with But in this match, that was the thing, the suplex right on top of his head, you couldn't determine as a professional what he was supposed to be trying to do to him because there was no bump out of this to take.
Starting point is 02:08:32 But you could have told the fans after they saw this, if Kyle had a laid there and got beat and they sent the doctors in, you could have told people he was a quadriplegic, and they would have believed it. But after 30 seconds of both of them selling, they both popped up and did shit back and forth like nothing was wrong, and Kyle hit a brain buster,
Starting point is 02:08:57 and he got a two count. And then they did, Moxley hit him with a DDT and got a two count, hit him with another DDT and got a two count. After this goddamn near-fatal thing off the top rope, and then after all that, Moxley got the choke on him, held him stationary in the ring for more than 30 seconds, and the referee rang the bell.
Starting point is 02:09:22 So the same guy that's going to win just hit the guy with his finish twice that didn't work after nearly killing the son of a bitch, and that didn't beat him. And then he just chokes him out in a boring finish in the middle of the ring. in 25 fucking minutes. So that was our first two matches. I'm sorry, but that was the first two matches just because of this tournament fixation that Tony has, heel versus heel, his young prospective superstar
Starting point is 02:10:02 almost was made a cripple for the rest of his life. And out of being able to pick two young guys that can go and aren't being paid a fortune or two old guys who are embarrassing and are being paid a fortune. He beat the two young guys. I'm sorry, go ahead. And some of this was set up in the previous match. Okada and Takesha really picked up at the end.
Starting point is 02:10:27 I started getting into it. All right, let's see what they're going to do. And then I groaned when Okeshhta. Okhata went to the corner and pulled out the screwdriver, which is the stupidest foreign object that's a regular foreign object used by a team. of wrestlers at wrestling, the screwdriver, to stab someone in the head with. And then missing a guy when you're supposed stab him in the head and missing him the first time, where the referee's got to fucking have some type of fucking shudder or goddamn palpitation
Starting point is 02:10:59 or whatever, he's got to jerk around and turn his back twice. But Okada uses it to beat Takesha, who's in the same stable with him. Don Callis leaves it Okada, doesn't leave with Takesha. Don Callis also represents Fletcher The screwdriver he was looking to use wasn't there So there's something there with that Oh yes, Kyle had I had gone to try to find the screwdriver But it had already been used
Starting point is 02:11:23 Moxley is the baby face I think it's not the way a turn would have been done ever before ever But he is now officially a baby face And they're going to do Death Riders versus the Callis family Oh Christ All right I can't wait to see Wheeler Uter versus Rocky Romero. That'll be a real barn burner, a main event in any arena across the country.
Starting point is 02:11:47 But Fletcher and Moxley, it was really good. And then, like, a lot of matches in AEW specifically, but it's a WWE problem now, too. You want to get the pop so you do the two counts nonstop, but you kick out of everything. And this was the peak of the show, match two. because the fans expelled much of their energy with the near falls in this match. Much like they were prepping for a colonoscopy, and they expelled most everything by this time this match was over. So, Brian, before we go any further in the pay-per-view,
Starting point is 02:12:27 because there are hours left, this particular match, I mean, obviously, no names were mentioned, this specific spot was not mentioned, but this particular match, and really this whole show, as we'll talk about, prompted William Regal to send out a tweet, just to nobody else but just the active wrestlers, as a guy again with experience, somebody that they're supposed to look up to. He's been a trainer.
Starting point is 02:13:02 He's had neck injuries. He's speaking from experience. and because of what they said or what he said and the AEW fans all knowing better than a 40 year veteran that's had two broken necks they jumped all over him it's because he's a WW stew and he was talking about the wrestlers
Starting point is 02:13:25 not this company's wrestlers or that company's wrestlers only stupid fucking wrestlers if I was in charge of OVW right now and this is what I had to work with, I'd close it down. Because there's nobody left to learn anything because nobody wants to be fucking taught. They just keep doing this stupid shit to get these stupid fans to scream for them because that's where the pops come in and wrestling now. When they break furniture or the people think that somebody got really hurt.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Yeah. The pop used to be from the baby face grabbing the heel and the chival. chance he was about to punch him, and now it's from a near fall. Or from a near fatal injury. Yeah. Well, William Regal... So, do you have, do you have Regal's tweet there that we can read? I do, and he wasn't the only one.
Starting point is 02:14:18 One of the first ones I saw was even Missy Hyatt said something, and she had the same thought I had when I saw that spot live. Missawa. I mean, we literally saw Missawa die in the ring after a career of bumps onto his neck, and it turns out it does damage. But here's William Regal. tweet, I stay off here,
Starting point is 02:14:40 but was alerted to something today that has alarmed me. I don't read any comments, so don't waste your time trying to argue or justify your very wrong opinions on this. I broke my neck twice, September 93,
Starting point is 02:14:57 in ring, and a car wreck in 97, and stupidly never told anyone. And I was taught properly had a bridge and not land on the top of my head. It's a skill that maybe 99.9% of people don't know or will ever learn anymore. I kept going, but knew all the tricks that again people don't learn now
Starting point is 02:15:22 and watch film and just copy. After Masala Sam passed from his neck problems, I thought it would stop this nonsense, but it got worse. and whenever I talk to people about them doing it, it's, quote, well, it doesn't hurt. Believe me, it will. I have people close to me now. Brian being one, Daniel Bryan or Brian Danielson,
Starting point is 02:15:51 who is suffering daily like myself from his neck. It's a daily misery. And sleep and every other aspect of your life is more than hard. Although people use the term tough about me, you'll never hear me say that, as I'm not and don't think I am and have never been. Money and whatever nonsense fame is supposed to be is not worth the pain or supposed to evening glory
Starting point is 02:16:21 you get from these ridiculous moves dropping yourself on your head. The vast majority of fans don't know the difference between a vertical suplex and a brain buster. Boom! And that's a far tamer move than many I see now. I'm 57 and become less relevant every day. But fame has never been my thing. So most of you doing this stupid stuff
Starting point is 02:16:49 are not going to listen to me. But hopefully a few do. Stop it now! If you want a decent quality of life after wrestling, because that part of your life will be over before you know it, and wrestling done right is hard enough, but broken necks or death are not something you should think is tough or cool. It's idiotic thinking.
Starting point is 02:17:16 And with that was an image of his x-ray or an x-ray of his neck. And again, everybody said, well, what about the W? He's just saying that about EW, because you're fucking morons. He didn't name anyone. He didn't name anybody. And besides that, I'm sure that there are a lot of other people in these little dip shit outlaw promotions that we don't watch that he might even keep up with that he probably sees getting dropped on their heads.
Starting point is 02:17:48 In even worse conditions on indie shows and rec centers for no money with no medical staff standing by or whatever, you see the goofy videos on Twitter all the time of some idiot, that thinks he can do the triple flip off the top through the table like he sees on TV and he goes face first to the fucking floor. That is, again, for years in the territory days, guys wrestled smarter because not only did they not have guaranteed money, and that's what everybody says, here's another point. Okay, you used to have a job making a million dollars a year, but if you got hurt,
Starting point is 02:18:30 you weren't going to get paid, so sometimes you had to work hurt. Or you've got a job making a million dollars a year, but now it's guaranteed, Brian. So even if you break your neck and end up being a paraplegic, you'll still get that million dollars. Does that make it easier when you have to say, oh shit, honey, I just broke my neck. I've got to eat through a straw for the next year and a half. is just because you know you're going to get paid do you still not want to try to avoid the broken neck is what I'm asking you know the other thing is
Starting point is 02:19:08 people try to argue that this is progress like this is wrestling progress the advancement of moves and bumps and different things the different acrobatics we see people are doing acrobatics going back to the beginning I mean, you hear all the arguments. But now, again, we're not at a time where fans get riled up over the heel. And it almost feels like the business moved away from that more because of people inside the business,
Starting point is 02:19:42 specifically in AEW, but I mean, WW2 moving away from that, then the fans wouldn't do. The idea like, K Fabe's dead, the fans won't boo heels or do. No, they will, but you have to present wrestling that way. when everything's just about the athleticism and... And you got a bunch of pussy heels that don't want people to dislike them, but they don't mind risking goddamn, all kinds of injuries do these stupid,
Starting point is 02:20:07 phony-looking dives. But oh, God, I don't want people to be mad at me. What? And that's the thing is, unfortunately, because all of these guys were brought up into the business by these morons that say it doesn't matter,
Starting point is 02:20:24 people know it's a work and it doesn't matter. It's all entertainment and we're all entertainers and actors and sports entertainers and everything. It's the stupidest thing it's ever happened because the way it's mattered then is now not only does everybody know it's a work, but they don't even bother to try in their performances to hook people. What I'm saying is all these matches look fake and phony because they're not bothering to make the basics look legitimate.
Starting point is 02:20:59 They're just that stuff in the middle of their stunts. And they, this stupid Japanese trading forearms or chops, I'll let you hit me and then you let me hit you. And just all this bullshit. That's why people are only popping on broken furniture or broken bones because everything else looks so fucking stupid, silly, and phony. It's not whether you know it's a work, it's what you're looking at. And when you've got these subpar physical specimens and these goddamn, look at spitball Bailey for God's sake,
Starting point is 02:21:40 or pockets, or just jokes, just comedy figures, and heel managers, winking, and even the top guys in the main events, not being able to make shit look legitimate. and not taking advice and or instruction and or, as Regal said, nobody's teaching these things anymore. They might be if anybody was listening. But it doesn't involve doing a stunt with a flame throwers so they don't care. And that's why all the matches are the same. And nobody gives a shit except the dwindling number of people that want to give it seven stars.
Starting point is 02:22:27 And everybody else is thinking, look at these fucking pasty, white, effeminate looking small guys pretending to fight each other and it looks like shit. That's what we got. And they're killing each other while they're doing it. Because they're not smart enough to realize the reason why nobody ever did this shit for 125 years wasn't because they're not capable athletically, but because it's fucking stupid and not sustainable. and it's not what the business is. You are manipulating emotions
Starting point is 02:23:07 based on having a large number of people with a strong positive attachment to one guy and a strong negative attachment to the other guy. Let's see him fight. Only a goddamn complete idiot gives a fuck about whether they do a jumping leaping tombstone pile driver
Starting point is 02:23:30 off the second turnbuckle in the course of that or not. Now you're just a goddamn idiot. Yeah, you know, again, it's not just an A.E.W. Problem. These bumps. And someone is going to get hurt. And you can't say...
Starting point is 02:23:51 You know what they're going to be, don't you, Brian? What's that, Jim? They're going to be bedridden. Think about it. Potentially, yes, yes. Where else you're going to go? Well, let's say now you've lost the function of your legs and arms. That means you can't stand up very well, right?
Starting point is 02:24:10 you can't lean very good if you sit down in a chair you can't stand up so the only thing left to be is bedridden so that's what in five or ten years all of your favorite wrestlers now
Starting point is 02:24:25 ladies gentlemen they're all going to be to let bedridden flat on their backs unable to move sucking soup through a straw and blowing in one of those things like Stephen Hawking has to power his fucking chair
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Starting point is 02:25:48 it'll stay a wrecked off. There's no erect tube. You know, there's a wreck tube dysfunction then. If you've got night sweats or back pain or motion transfer or motion capture, you might be in a video game. Know what, you're trapped in a video game. Helix can help out.
Starting point is 02:26:09 Because if you sleep on a helix mattress, well, then you're going to wake up refreshed and feeling fine. They make buying mattresses easy and they make sleeping on them. You know, it's a lot of work to sleep on some mattresses, Brian. You really, you know, they fill them up with all kinds of off-brand materials, things they find around a junkyard, steel coils, broken glass, asbestos. Helix don't do all of that. you're going to have boxes of fluffy ducks you're going to have bags of feathers you're going to have
Starting point is 02:26:42 incredible amounts of foam rubber and even some whipped cream just anything you can think of that's soft just anything that you can think of that's pliable and malleable that's what goes into these helix mattresses that's why they're so comfortable that's not official that those are not the things that go into well they stick in extra things for me they like me because i've bought so many of them they put some extra things in. Every once in while I'll lay down where the box of fluffy ducks is and it's going to go, whack. Folks, it's free shipping also.
Starting point is 02:27:15 Jovial time. We're in a good mood with funny Helix sleep stories here as we talk about Helix sleep. Well, and free shipping on the Helix mattresses, they deliver them right to your door, free shipping in the United States, of course. They got to put them on a boat, take them over to Guatemala or whatever.
Starting point is 02:27:31 You're going to pay through the nose. That's not, who is? Seamless delivery. Seamless delivery. That means they send you all of the ingredients and the materials for the mattress and all you got to do when you get it, take it out of the box and just sew it up. So it's seamless delivery, but you're going to save money. I can see why you would think that, but you do not have to apply any seams.
Starting point is 02:27:52 The seams will be there. It'll be an easy delivery and a mattress with seams. So it's a seamed delivery. No, it's a seamless delivery, but a seamed mattress. Well, but they'll take the stitches out before they deliver it. But nevertheless, and the happy with Helix guarantee you can rest easy with seamless return. See, if you get it, it's not sewn together, you don't want it. You can return it and exchange it and get one that has been sewn together.
Starting point is 02:28:21 The happy with Helix guarantee offers a risk-free customer-first experience. That means that we put you first, you being the customer, and you're going to be the first customer that's laid down on this Helix mattress you get. Now, it's been tested by a variety of other workmen and tradesmen over the period of time. But we make them take their shoes off before they get on it. Not how it works, ladies and gentlemen. Well, we got to make sure it works before we send it out. You're really making me work today.
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Starting point is 02:29:20 That's not what will happen with a great mattress. Don't worry about coma, worry about Homa, Louisiana, Even then he beds. About the moon and the juna and the springer. I love to sleeper on the helix mattress. It feels so. Feels so good. Yes, that's a gym on that wavelength.
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Starting point is 02:31:03 It's here. It's got no seams anywhere. I don't know what I'm playing. I don't know what you're singing. And once again, Hewicks sleep. It's seamless. All righty. Well, Brian, now that we figured out how to have a good night's sleep,
Starting point is 02:31:17 we're going to get back to the pay-per-view and determine who else needs to be put to sleep. But there's breaking news. This has just come across the news desk. And this is not related. to AEW, this is serious business, folks. Brian, have you heard about this? My old hometown, Morristown, Tennessee. Have you heard about the big doings? No, not at all. This is the headline from WVLT TV, one of the fine TV stations down in Knoxville. The headline, Monkey, who damaged
Starting point is 02:31:52 Morristown business caught, police say. Morristown, Tennessee is the dateline. The Morristown Police Department and boy, you talk about a SWAT team there, folks. The Morristown Police Department said they captured the monkey who damaged a business Sunday morning. According to the MPD, officers responded to Trade Center, a musical instrument store on South Cumberland Street in Morristown after a cinnamon capuchin monkey went inside the business. Apparently he was just walking down the street and decided to go in buy some musical instruments. Look good for some gear.
Starting point is 02:32:35 MPD said the monkey caused damage to the business and musical instruments. Animal control responded to the business and tried to capture the monkey in the store, but were unsuccessful. According to MPD, the monkey was captured at a different location later in the evening. Additional information was not. released and there is a picture of this goddamn monkey with the most frightened face you've ever seen standing in the middle of a fucking music store in front of an electric guitar going what the fuck is going on around here i want the additional information where did
Starting point is 02:33:19 this monkey come from is there a zoo nearby not when i lived there well there was a couple of houses that we were a little, you know, on the fence about, but not an official zoo. But was the business open? Did the monkey break in? How did the monkey break in? I see no burglary tools. If the business was open, then why is a monkey walking down South Cumberland Street in Morristown in the middle of the day?
Starting point is 02:33:50 And why couldn't they capture it? They couldn't capture it there, but it was found later on. on when it stopped into a bar to get a drink. So once they confronted it inside the music store, I thought it would be playing drums. I thought that was the funny visual. It somehow got back out of the music store. Like, how did they let it get back out? Well, they couldn't catch it.
Starting point is 02:34:12 It took off and I guess nobody, well, this is Morristown. We're not, we're not dealing with the most highly trained monkey catchers in Morristown. Now, you've got to go to a big city like Chicago or Detroit. These are inexperienced monkey capturers. And where did it, another location, where was that other location? Could have been the Talley Ward Rec Center. Where did you see this news story? It's on, it's on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:34:42 Somebody tweeted it to me from WVLT in Knoxville. Monkey on the loose in your old stomping grounds. This is what happens when you elect a wrestler to be mayor. Well, no, Morristown now doesn't have anything to do with Knoxville. that's a completely different county. They're on their own up there. This is what happens when you let Jim Cornett living your town.
Starting point is 02:35:03 Oh, hey, I've been gone for a while. But I wonder, I wonder if the monkey escaped from, there is a zoo in Knoxville. How many miles is it from Knoxville to Morristown? About 40. How fast does a monkey travel? Unless it gets a bus. Or a vine.
Starting point is 02:35:24 It'd have to swing uphill. Anyway, let's go back to the pay-per-view, shall we, and talk about those monkeys. Because the next match on the card, the third match, besides the pre-show, obviously, was a street fight match between FTR and Austin Gunn and Juice Robinson. Brunna said the first two matches were heels against heels. Weren't Austin Gunn and Juice Robinson heels last time we looked? I don't think so. I thought they were.
Starting point is 02:36:00 I thought they weren't. I think the guns returned his baby faces and then his brother got hurt. And I think Juice Robinson returned was he a surprise in a casino match or something? I don't fucking know. And he shaved off his charisma
Starting point is 02:36:15 so you didn't know what was him by the way of? He was really shaved a while back. Now he's grown some back but it's still too too well kept. He grew that back and his barber took revenge on him, obviously. You've got FTR who are just floundering with a manager that doesn't know how to manage
Starting point is 02:36:36 and is not allowed to have manager segments that managers do on this program because nobody else knows either. And Austin Gun is one half of the guns. I like the guns, like see the guns back together. Not a half of them. Juice, Juice and Jay, Jay and Juice, J, J and Juice. J and Juice. they were a great team.
Starting point is 02:36:59 They had a great match with FTR. This ain't them either. Why is this a street fight? FTR is, I know they've done some angle for it, but FTR is having a no rules, no disqualification, street fight match with all kinds of blood against a middle card thrown together tag team just to put it on the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 02:37:23 And now Austin Gunn is dressing like one of the Godwins with overalls. So I'm only going to talk about the spot at the finish, which everybody was talking about, but no rules, no DQ, street fight. They started with a four-way on the floor. They went up the entrance ramp and fought into the bleachers, and I said, I'm going to skip this shit.
Starting point is 02:37:48 I know you watched it, and I know you have a couple of thoughts, before we get to the finale, what the chairs, the trash cans, the tables, etc. Is it the same thing with FTR? Did they have a way too complicated match for the opposition
Starting point is 02:38:06 that they couldn't keep up with and it wasn't necessary culminating in this goddamn overly contrived and at the same time flat finish that I saw? Or did they do something great in the middle? No, this may have been the worst
Starting point is 02:38:21 FTR match I've ever seen. And it seemed like the crowd was overwhelmed with apathy. You know, this, wasn't good. The highlight was the table spot. I watched it over and over. I laughed about it. Seemingly, everyone else did. This was not good at all. This, the table spot you mentioned was poor Stokely. There's no heat on any manager in this company, because they never do anything successfully, but they do try to give them all the comedy spots in the world. This one was unintentionally funny. They're going.
Starting point is 02:38:59 into the finish and Stokely is on the apron of the ring and has tried to grab a chair away from Juice Robbins. And they start with juice in the ring and Stokely on the apron. They start having a little tug of war with the chair, which ends with juice, gives him a shove. And the idea that they're going for is that Stokely is going to fall off the apron of the ring and crash through the table that's set at ringside because everybody knows you can't have a professional wrestling match without breaking a table. So that was what they wanted to do. And the only reason I'm laughing about this is because,
Starting point is 02:39:40 I mean, it may have shook him up, but it didn't look anywhere near like Stokely damaged himself as much as Kyle did. So we can laugh about it and also the table got comedic too. And I'll tell you why this happened, but what happened was Stokely flew off the apron of the ring skidded off the top of the table and went straight over it and landed almost head first on the ground and almost if he'd have been a foot longer or foot farther he would have jammed his head and neck on
Starting point is 02:40:13 the barricade around the ring but he landed it looked like just short of that so he may have got a knot on his head but this didn't look like it should have killed it but here's the problem stokely may have trained to wrestle at one point but stokely is not an experienced guy going through a fucking table so if you're going to do something like this you can't just talk about it ahead of time or maybe they even went out to the ring and walked through it and they didn't take the bump obviously juice may have said oh well i have the tug of war and then i'll give you the shove and you fly off and go through the table the problem is brian if you ever you're not a country country boy. You don't live down south where it's all peaceful and quiet and looks like
Starting point is 02:41:06 Mayberry RFD. But have you ever tried to skip a flat rock on a lake? Yes. Okay. Then you've got the idea that you get a flat rock and you throw it flat sideways and it skips off the water, is also the top of the water is flat. And you see how many times it skips before it sinks. That's what they did with Stokely. Stokely didn't come off the apron of the ring and go downwards onto the table. Stokely was so worried,
Starting point is 02:41:45 and you can go back and watch the video and see what I'm talking about. He was so worried that he wasn't going to make it to the table that he'd launched himself off that apron, flung himself off. off it and he skipped right off the table like a flat rock on a fucking lake because you ain't going to break the table if you're going sideways over the top of it you have to be coming down with your weight in the middle of it and the closer you get to the middle these here it's
Starting point is 02:42:18 going to break because you've hit the part in between the two legs that has the least amount of support this is just as it physics or fucking science or gravity or whatever you call it. So Stokely flew backwards to try to make sure he made the table and skipped off the table and went over and landed a heap on the floor and then the table, because he had brushed it on the way by, the table did a slow motion fall right on top of you. Just to add the insult to the injury, right? And I'm like this poor fucking guy, but that's what you have to.
Starting point is 02:42:58 to tell somebody who's not and again the reason why I'm saying this people there's going to be people Cornet thinks he's so smart and how great match did he ever have I've been watching this doing this and booking this and producing this for 50
Starting point is 02:43:17 fucking years so at some point or another unless you're a complete idiot you not only see how shit goes wrong for other people but occasionally you fucked it up yourself and you learned from it. And so I'm not breaking any revolutionary ground here, but they should have told a poor guy to make sure you come straight off the apron and down,
Starting point is 02:43:45 not a cross, or you're going to fuck yourself up. And that's something that I would have told any manager or referee or valet or anybody who's not a regular wrestler is doing all the fucking time. I don't know why it didn't come up. Maybe because they are convinced
Starting point is 02:44:08 that everything they do is always going to work or just fling themselves and hope for the best. Maybe that's what they do. But so then, the point being, now that if you know anything about wrestling and how to construct finishes, you want to go home immediately after you've got the people as up
Starting point is 02:44:35 as they're going to get in the course of the fucking match. And usually, especially when it was a manager like a Heenan or a Dylan or a myself or whatever, once the manager has taken his big bump, that's the fucking pop, then you go to the finish. Oh, God, no. They did four more moves to Austin Goose. done, including two spike pile drivers, one of them on a title belt, and then beat him,
Starting point is 02:45:12 one, two, three. And they tried, they tried, the shatter machine actually was afterwards. No, that's what it was. They tried to hit the shatter machine on, I guess it was juice after Stokely took the table bump, they didn't get it the first time because Juice went into it and was going to boost himself, but Dax wasn't ready, so Dax shoves him back into the ropes and then boosts him. And that was a two-count. They hit their finish.
Starting point is 02:45:46 After the manager took his bump, here's the shatter machine. Boom, two-count. What the fuck? Then, no, it was Austin Guns, who it was. Because then they did four more things to him, including the two Spike Pile drivers and then beat him. and then nobody gave a shit. Black. It was flat.
Starting point is 02:46:10 The manager takes the bump. Everybody's up. Here's our finish. On this guy. Boom, one, two, three. They're going to win anyway. But they can't help themselves from making it so complicated
Starting point is 02:46:22 and so convoluted and contrived. So they had it there. They would have got a pop. They did four more things to him. Took a while to set those up. beat him flat, the guy didn't have an out. It just, whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 02:46:44 So that was FTR's match. And we hope that Stokely is all right, but he seemed like he was better off than Kyle was. Then they had a 13-minute girls tag team match. Go ahead. Stokely has no heat. No. Every manager you named, if any,
Starting point is 02:47:02 even if you had slid off the table, it would have been a big, big pop. He doesn't have any heel heat. Even with FTR acting like heels and doing whatever they did the Beth Phoenix a while back, Stokely, like, no one's looking to get him. Why would they be? What's he done to anybody?
Starting point is 02:47:20 Except he says a couple of lines on a promo, and then he's bumped around and treated like a buffoon. He's never caused FTR to win a major match or championship by his nefarious tactics, he's not ever said anything horrible to somebody unless it was meant in a comedy way, why would anybody be mad at him? The biggest pop when he took the bump was the laugh when the table turned over on him. But they don't know how to have real managers here. Don Callis is a goddamn textbook example of that.
Starting point is 02:48:00 But anyway, as I said, they had a 13-minute girls tag. Who was in it? I don't remember. do you? Off the top of my head? I don't know. Okay. So then we get to Darby Allen and Gabe Kidd.
Starting point is 02:48:13 And I had thought, I forgot, I thought Gabe Kidd was Jeff Cobb, but Gabe Kidd is the Timu, Josh Alexander. So did they do some kind of angle on one of the shows we don't watch, or did they just come up with this match
Starting point is 02:48:34 as a double juice grudge match where Darby was challenging for the world title and it seemed like on the cusp of being a main player in the company and now he's in there with a mid-card part-timer and they're having a bloodbath.
Starting point is 02:48:56 Well, if you remember... Where did this come from? If you remember when they had their residency in Philadelphia, Darby put Gabe Kid in a body bag and drove off with him. Oh, but they found him and he came back. I presume he was gone a while.
Starting point is 02:49:14 Well, more of Darby's torture porn, no semblance of a wrestling match. The majority was spent on the floor. And then finally, Gabe Kidd gave Darby a leaping pile driver and got a two count and then went to do something else and Darby just rolled him up, one, two, three. So there was that. At least it wasn't long. They had a tornado intergender eight-man tag team match. Oh, fuck this match.
Starting point is 02:49:52 Oh, the little bits I saw this match were awful. Well, I saw what people put out on Twitter before I actually watched the show. So I knew to skip this because I'd have been pissed off. I wouldn't watch the rest of this show. But it was Roderick Strong, Mark Briscoe, pockets. and Tony Storm against Claudio, Garcia, Useless, and Schaefer. And what the people shared on social media of this business
Starting point is 02:50:20 was Tony Storm and Pockets doing ballroom dancing where it looked like a 66 Batman TV series fight scene where they would swing each other out and they'd jump up and kick an opponent or hit the guy or whatever. It was like, swing your apart. partner doce do kick him into balls and step on his toe it's it's embarrassing and again i've i've worked with rodrick i've worked with mark briscoe and claudio don't know the other idiots but they wouldn't have done this 10 years ago they they still took their even though they were the
Starting point is 02:51:07 modern fellows, they took their business seriously. And they weren't just out to just jack off in the ring in front of the fans that paid to see it and just shit on everything. But now in this group, in this company, they don't care. It's like, hey, Roger's working with his wife. Ricky Morton told me one time, this was like five, six, seven, eight years ago. He said he was working on a show somewhere. and they had him in a multiple person tag team match. And the guys had told him right before they started to match said, watch this first spot.
Starting point is 02:51:45 He's thinking, oh, this is going to be great or whatever the fuck. And they started doing the slow motion thing. And he said, Jimmy, he said, I didn't know it was coming. And I was so embarrassed. And what can I do? They're just working to match in slow motion on purpose. And people are laughing. he's like, what, what could I do?
Starting point is 02:52:12 This way, you could have fucking just dropped down on the floor and left, but I guess he hadn't got paid yet. But even the guys that at one point, you could count on and that weren't assholes and jackoffs, they're just doing this shit now because they don't care, they're getting paid anyway, they don't have any pride or self-respect. I don't know what the fuck it is. I can't explain it.
Starting point is 02:52:41 Anyhow, that was followed by Statlander beating Hater. That was all right. The crowd wasn't terribly into it for a lot of it. But that was pretty good. Yeah, it was also three hours fucking in, plus the pre-show. And finally, we got to the meat of the matter on the last two of these things. The tournament final, Dick the Boozer versus, oh, sleepy, oh, boring. finally, finally somebody beat this lazy sack of shit and it had to be Moxley.
Starting point is 02:53:16 Again, it's another heel versus heel match, but now they're cheering Moxley even though he's done nothing to turn. They just need somebody to cheer for since all the other babyface this company are schmucks or nerds. And they ring the bell for this thing three hours into the show plus the pre-show. and you know with these two because Moxley in his pickled brain
Starting point is 02:53:48 somehow fantasizes himself a badass mixed martial artist and a Japanese wrestling icon and he's wrestling death jitsu yeah that's what that's what you get when you watch this shit
Starting point is 02:54:06 death jitsu it starts in your stomach and comes up your, brings all the bile and the stomach acid up. And he's in there with dipshit that's won every Japanese tournament that is the greatest Japanese tournament wrestler of all time. I got news for everybody. I think Japanese wrestling used to be the best on the planet,
Starting point is 02:54:27 just like it used to be great here. And the same thing has happened over there, a bunch of unprofessional, personalityless, talentless dipshits have taken the thing over and made it as bad there as it is here now. And this is the worst of both. You've got a broken down
Starting point is 02:54:50 want-a-be great Japanese wrestler that couldn't fucking touch Fujinami's dick, even though he probably wants to. And you've got this mental incompetent American that wants to copy all the Japanese shit that he thinks is so great and is almost better at it than Kingston. I think Fujunami's dope. So that's what you got.
Starting point is 02:55:18 The worst of modern Japanese wrestling plus contrived American spots, kickouts of everything, a washed up broken down guy against the worst pushed worker in the entire world, and the last several minutes this thing was like watching milk sour. And then they traded fake. forearms. My specialty. 20 minutes.
Starting point is 02:55:45 Moxley with the double-armed DDT, 12, 3. What are you... Before we even get to anything else about this, because I'm fascinated about this one aspect of it, what do you think about the fact that they had a continental classic and then a continental champion
Starting point is 02:55:59 and they had the international champion, and they merged them as the unified championship, and that only lasted until this and now it's no longer a unified championship. O'Kada goes back to just being the international champion. Any thoughts? I don't even understand what you just said.
Starting point is 02:56:22 And you pretty much summarized it. Nobody understands with these belts. Everybody's got a belt. Everybody's got a title. Everybody's got a belt. Multiple. Samoa Joe was coming into the goddamn matches for the last couple months. as the AEW world champion while also carrying the Ring of Honor world six-man title belt with him.
Starting point is 02:56:46 Like that didn't just confuse the goddamn issue and who would give a shit. And why they didn't immediately, once that Joe won the real title, declare the six-man thing for Ring of Honor vacant and do another one of Tony's tournaments or whatever, but just get that stink off of their real world champion. But and not even talking about Josephine Camel carrying 14 belts out. Now she can't whip cream with an outboard motor. When undefeated, one 15 fucking belts, now they're beating her like a goddamn drum.
Starting point is 02:57:25 And he's the same thing with Moxley. Moxley couldn't win a match. He put Kyle O'Reilly over. Then he comes out and wins this fucking tournament. In the most boring way possible. It, none of it. none of this makes any sense. And I'll say one more thing and I'll quit on this.
Starting point is 02:57:45 We'll get to the main event. You can tell that Tony, this is the problem. If this was just being done on a spur of the moment and it all makes no sense and there was no thought put into it, you could understand it. But Tony intricately overthinks this and writes this shit down. And somehow this all makes sense to him, but he's putting a lot of work into it. And again, for something that might just be being made up on the spot, okay, that's why it doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 02:58:25 But for him to immerse himself in this night and day and it still don't make a lick of goddamn sense, that's troubling to me. Moxley, now a baby face, now a champion. I thought when they created the national championship, that was to replace the lost title that was unified, but now championships galore. And we'll see what happens with the babyface death riders.
Starting point is 02:58:57 Well, they're going to have to be the life riders, aren't they now? Can they be the death riders and be baby faces? Well, we're about to find out. Can they be the riders on the storm? Riders on the storm Doon loon do no do Oh my God, can you imagine him walking through the arena of that? Our leader is all drunk
Starting point is 02:59:19 Doon dooo do and our ship is sunk Doon do do loon do do oh we wish we could have a match But we can't Booker we catch I don't know All right Robbie Krieger over here Well now it's time for the main event Brian Anota You've been waiting on this like I have The world heavyweight title is on the line in a four-way, three baby faces, well, two baby faces.
Starting point is 02:59:47 MJF is a heel that they're cheering louder than anyone, and poor old Samoa Joe. So we knew what was going to happen here. We just want to see how it was going to happen. With the pre-show, we were four and a half hours in before the bell rang on this one. And I think this was the shortest match of the night. And that's probably because they realized. What's why are we even here? They can't have a match.
Starting point is 03:00:13 It's a four way. They just do shit to each other. The crowd was so tired out. I saw people get in the goddamn ringside seats. There's nothing left to do in the ring. People have bled. People have been nearly killed. Furniture has been broken.
Starting point is 03:00:32 And so that's what they did. They just had a match where they did shit to each other. at one point, Paige was just kneeling on the floor outside the ring, leaning on the apron, just watching what was happening in the ring. They just, they'll do their spot, and then they'll roll out, and in full view of the entire crowd in the building, they'll just fucking sit there and wait for their next spot. I mean, I can't, watching one of these shows,
Starting point is 03:01:01 I don't know if anybody at the end of the night would have not been fired if they were working for Dusty Roads or Bill Watts or goddamn anybody. Definitely me. And MJF was the smartest one because he, for the most part, this wasn't smart for business. It wasn't a smart way to do the match, but for him to not look like shit, he would just take a bump and roll out.
Starting point is 03:01:32 You wouldn't see him again for ages. He played almost no partner's thing till he in. and that was probably the path of least resistance. Let me just get out of the fucking way of these idiots. At the start, swerve dove on MJF, and then Joe dove on both of them. And then they all three stood up and stood there
Starting point is 03:01:54 and waited for page to moonsault off the top onto him on the floor, and he went over all three of them without touching them. And all three of them fell down anyway. and Sockface tried to cover it. Well, he got Joe and MJF and swerved in hit heads. What is this goddamn billiard championships? We're doing a trick shot with fucking Minnesota fats. Even when they have guys that can work,
Starting point is 03:02:24 the rotten booking, the stupid multiple man matches, and the idiots like Paige don't know what they're doing, screw everything up. And then they do the part where they try to counter and reverse everything because swerve and page think they're video game characters. So it looks like watching drunk square dance. It's so contrived. It's obviously phony.
Starting point is 03:02:54 And the fans, again, they're waiting for somebody or something to get broken. As I said, MJF, out of everything for most of the match. Then Hobbs Hook and Shepoopy all ran down and just started beating people up in front of the referee, but it's no disqualification. And then the referee was arguing with the heels, like, you're not supposed to be doing this and they're paying no attention. So the other referees come down now and get the heels and take them out. But then they can't go to the finish.
Starting point is 03:03:30 They just, they have interference in the middle of the matches. Like that's ever been a thing that ever happened ever, anywhere, ever. did I mention ever? And then they just keep going to match. And then MJF push swerve off the top rope. Like he was going to hit the fucking desk, but he was a foot short, so he just crumpled.
Starting point is 03:03:56 And then Paige hits Joe with two buckshot lariots. But Joe doesn't take a bump. He's got to do the Mantar Weeble wobble in the ring. And there's nothing that's also that's more overdone and worn out and wrestling. then the big guy getting hit and staggering and waiting to be hit again while he's staggering. So Page hits Joe with two buck shots
Starting point is 03:04:22 and is going for the third. And MJF pushes Joe out of the way and kicks Paige into balls and then gives Joe the heat seeker, boom, one, two, three. So MJF did almost nothing and stole the title. And I know people are going to say, well, that's the way the heel gets heat. Oh, Christ, out of crunker, they're doing everything backwards.
Starting point is 03:04:48 If he was going to cheat and steal the title, then have him cheat and steal the title in a single match. And then gradually force him into this goddamn predicament he was in where three guys that hate him are going to be in the same match and they're all going to try to kill him. How's he going to get out of it? He's not going to be able to steal it this time. No, they go backwards.
Starting point is 03:05:11 they have a four-way. They have the biggest star in the company, MJF return from Hollywood, and instead of him looking like a world-beater, he does almost nothing, gets a cheap win stealing the belt, and now they're going to have single matches after they've already had the four-way.
Starting point is 03:05:36 And he's more popular as a heel than any of these other motherfuckers are as baby-faced. So explain to me how the fucking shit makes sense here. How it makes sense? I can't explain it to you that way. Why it happens? I don't know what you're looking for. I don't know what you're looking for here.
Starting point is 03:06:01 I'm looking. They got the belt on their job. I'm looking for another fucking job is what I've looked at it. They got the belt on MJF. He didn't have to defeat Adam Page because they had Samoa Joe as a buffer, so you set that up for the future. Swerve. I don't know if there's going to be too much MJF swerve stuff in the future.
Starting point is 03:06:18 They're already setting up MJF and Omega. That'll be pretty big. Oh, Christ, on a cracker. Hey, you know what? Of anyone in AEW, who would I want to see Kenny Omega work a good match with? That's the one guy we really haven't seen, right? Well, that's true. And now that Kenny actually has to try to wrestle and have matches
Starting point is 03:06:37 instead of just doing all of his flying stuff, because he's goddamn crippled himself. if he listens to MJF, he can probably have a good match. Now he won't be doing all that bullshit. He won't have to. But nevertheless, I don't, I honestly can't see how you can sell. But what the fuck do I know? I've only been booking for almost 40 years.
Starting point is 03:07:01 But how can you sell a single match between MJF and any of these guys when he's already beat him all in a fucking four way? It's completely backwards. But they start out with cages and then go to one fall 15 minute time limit matches. That's their M.O. All this sheds backwards. It's almost like we're looking in a mirror.
Starting point is 03:07:26 Almost like it's World's End. And that was indeed AW World's End 2025. But you know what, Brian, if you were going to pick, if you had been going to pick the winner, and we did, who would you have picked? Well, we did. We picked the winner, MJF. maybe we ought to start picking other things.
Starting point is 03:07:45 What do you think? We did get the winner of this match. That's what I think. Sorry for the long delay there. I think we got the winner of this. You could say, well, what else should we pick? What else? See a way to start.
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Starting point is 03:14:27 Well, there's some things to hide, but not about prize picks. Not here and now, Jim. Don't tell her about your horror in Richmond. All right. This is your show still. all righty brian well before we leave today i have found something as we do often on this program bringing facts and figures back from wrestling's pioneer history we bring these things to light
Starting point is 03:14:55 and i've found something actually you know this book you have this book uh scott teal our friend at scott over at crowbar press dot com one of the books that he has put out is a three volume set on pro wrestling in comic strips, illustrations, and cartoons. And we talked about this a few months ago. I love it. It's amazing. Well, there are comic strips and different drawings and et cetera and cartoons. And he searched newspapers back to the dawn of the 20th century for various things that fit that nature.
Starting point is 03:15:32 There's an Amos and Andy short, The Rasselan Match from 1934, and it has cartoons in. and so they have, he has reprints of those ads and other things involving comic strips, but there are also some newspaper articles that may just have one little, you know, the old sports pages had the little caricatures of the baseball players, the football players, or whatever. And there's one full page from St. Louis, December 27, 1931, a full-page article on Landoz and his year of 1931. And the headline is Jimmy Landoz,
Starting point is 03:16:17 wrestling 101 times in 1931, is busiest champion and big moneymaker. And now a lot of people are, how do we know so much about the gates and the attendances of these matches back in the Depression in the 20s and 30s? since wrestling and boxing, pro wrestling and pro boxing kind of started in the same era and used the same rings and the same facilities and the athletic commissions back then, even the
Starting point is 03:16:51 promoters liked giving publicity to the gates they drew. Because we're like all the Jackfeffer posters, Brian, you've seen a bunch of them. The fabulous Fargoes fresh off drawing a $62,000 house in Madison Square, garden, which was legitimate. It was reported by the New York State Athletic Commission. But the promoters would advertise that in those days. They weren't operating a modern territory and a modern company like it came to be where the guys got paid, usually pittances on the houses and they didn't want the guys to know how big the houses really were because they'd be even matter about their money. It was the opposite. The promoters and the commissions in
Starting point is 03:17:37 those days, they advertise these big crowds and these big figures to show how popular their sport was, how popular the champion was. What a big deal he was in the sports world. And until the 1960s, as we've mentioned many times, wrestlers and boxers were the highest paid professional athletes. In the 1950 network television run, the only professional athletes in the United States making more money than the top wrestlers were whoever the world heavyweight boxing champion was.
Starting point is 03:18:16 There was no money yet in pro football or basketball or baseball. That's why Ernie Ladd quit and Wahoo quit to football the whole nine yards, right? So these figures have persisted, but it shows you, 1931, I don't know that it was the worst year of the Depression, But it was the second worst, I think.
Starting point is 03:18:40 And here, not only because this is the St. Louis newspaper, and there was a Missouri Athletic Commission, and Sam Muchnick was still, was already in the business technically at this time, I believe, working in Tom Pax's office, but they were always in with the sports writers in the paper and the athletic commission people, and they advertised and promoted. promoted wrestling like the other professional sports with these figures.
Starting point is 03:19:12 So for the people who think, well, this is all just bullshit that was made up in some old newspaper, that is kind of how this stuff takes place. But do you, would you like to know the subheading, Brian, and 1931, I don't have my inflation calculator up. I should have done that. But maybe you can because you're quicker. but in 1931 this newspaper article says that records indicate that Landoz cleared for working, wrestling 101 times in 1931 cleared $252,500 with his matches attracting gates up to $63,000.
Starting point is 03:19:58 Now I'm going to say that 1931 to today, is 20 to 1. $1 then is $20 today. I don't know if you've had a chance to... If I go with just a flat number of $252,000, in today's money, that's $5,340,000. There you guys, about $20 to 1. So that means that the $63,000 gate
Starting point is 03:20:25 was actually a $1.2.5 million gate. And this... That's countrywide, but they also have a sidebar with a listing of the seven times that Landoz wrestled in St. Louis. And this was at the arena later to become the Checker Dome. This predates the Kiel Auditorium. But it says Jimmy Landoz's seven appearances in St. Louis in 1931 drew $150,0136 in gross receipts from a total of 92,320 spectators,
Starting point is 03:21:11 according to official figures from the Office of Commissioner Seneca C. Taylor, the chairman of the Missouri Athletic Commission. On February 20th, Landoz and Ray Steele drew 10,567 people for $19,774. again 20 grand would now be $400,000. Landoz and Danos Schocker on April 8th drew 7139 people for 13 grand and change. But the rematch three weeks later drew 13,973 people for $35,270, that's $700,000.
Starting point is 03:21:57 Londos versus Carl Pagelo, 11,518 people for 12 grand. Londos and Burt Camper in September and November through eight, I'm sorry, hold on this copy is so small, 18,000 on each match and 23,000 at the gate. So that was a sellout of the arena at regular prices. the shocker rematch must have been elevated prices. And then Landos and Garibaldi does not say which one, I bet you.
Starting point is 03:22:38 Would it have been Leo? Gino. Or Gino, yeah. Drew $12,176 and $22,000. But the point is 92,000 people. And those weren't the only seven matches in St. Louis. That's just the seven that Lando. appeared on.
Starting point is 03:22:59 But the gross receipts for those seven was 150 grand, which would have been, again, in today's money, $3 million. And if he grossed $250,000, as you mentioned earlier, that's more money than most anybody in wrestling today is making adjusted. And then I wish the print wasn't so small, but this same page has a list of every single match that Landoz wrestled in 1931 with the opponent, the date, and the location.
Starting point is 03:23:39 And I mean, I can see the towns in March, Richmond, Virginia, Baltimore, Atlanta, Georgia, Philadelphia, Memphis, New York, Boston, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, New York, New Haven, Jersey City, Boston, Patterson, New Jersey and back in Baltimore. And that's with no interstates in 1939 in a depression with air travel in its
Starting point is 03:24:06 infancy at best. This guy was the biggest sports star in the United States of America. And even when you talk about ticket prices, regular prices versus special prices for a big match, those are reasonable
Starting point is 03:24:23 compared to the way things are today. So it's not even a fair comparison just because of how different everything the system is. Imagine if Lando's had merch, imagine of Lando's, like, you know, any of the things that they have today, you know, working a few times a month
Starting point is 03:24:43 and making all that money. It's just, it's a different animal, but cheap ticket prices, by and large. And again, it says these records kept by the post-dispatch from reports of Press Association Services may be incomplete, due to the fact the reports of some of Londos's matches may have not been filed. But granting the total is correct, he wrestled an average of twice a week for more than 11 months.
Starting point is 03:25:10 And if his average pay was only $2,500 a match, no, $2,300, a conservative estimate, he cleared $252,000. And again, there's many times he's wrestling five out of seven days in a week. if they can get the trains, you know, that he can make it. But there was no comparison, I would think, except who was, God damn it, I used to know this too, who was world boxing champion in 1931, I wonder. I'm trying to think, was that the Dempsey era? that would have been his only competition as the most famous professional athlete in the United States of America.
Starting point is 03:26:04 Well, with Babe Ruth, I would say Babe Ruth has to be on the list of the most famous. Okay, we have to have Babe Ruth at that point. Max Schmelling. Max Schmelling, that evil German. Well, Joe Lewis is coming, Schmelling, so fuck you. But that's the thing that Bay, Ruth wasn't making this much money. not nearly this much money, the wrestlers and the boxers because of the unique status that they had as being a one-man team
Starting point is 03:26:33 that could travel all over the country, that they were only splitting the money up. Back in those days, it was the main event guys, as we've seen, that made the money and the promoter made a little, and the underneath guys just were cannon fodder. But the ability that the boxers and wrestling, had at that point to set their own matches up, to make the majority of the money,
Starting point is 03:26:59 and especially when nobody else in sports was doing anything, it just, it shows that wrestling was in the place that now football, baseball, and basketball are in with the highly paid athletes and the incredible crowds. It's completely switched in the last hundred years. but yeah, the amazing list. And it says here that in these 101 matches,
Starting point is 03:27:30 I think I'm trying to read this, but it says he's opposed only 38, 28 or 38 wrestlers. Because those were the top fucking guys, right? You can do the same thing in Milwaukee, you could do in Memphis. But I can't imagine that that kind of road schedule in those days was in any way conducive
Starting point is 03:27:54 to long-term health or, you know, happiness. But he was again the big draw for like, what, was it 13 or 14 years? In his, he was in a business a lot longer than that, but as the undisputed king of the box office in wrestling, he had the longest run ever even past Bruno and this. I was just this past weekend putting away some of my 1940s, California programs. And I ran into something that was in a variety of programs, the Olympic and Long Beach,
Starting point is 03:28:30 various towns. And it was there, this is while Jack Feffer was supplying talent, their list of world title claimants. And this is the end of 1945. And one of them on here is still Jim Lundas, recognized in Phoenix, Arizona as the world champion. Yes, and was on top, what was on top in the late 19 teens, even though his heyday really didn't start until the late 20s and run through the mid to late 30s. But, I mean, after that, he was more, there was more of a recognition factor amongst the average person in the United States during the 30s for Jim Landoz than there was in the 80s for Hulk Hogan. So how long was Hulk Hogan a major name in the culture after the 80s because of that reputation? More people had heard of Jim Landoz.
Starting point is 03:29:33 So even in the 50s, he could walk into a newspaper office or make a personal appearance. And just by virtue of the fact that everybody had heard that name, even if they hadn't seen him wrestle, he was a major star for the the rest of the time he spent the business. Anyhow, and I love these old newspapers because you can get more legitimate information about a fake business out of the papers of the 20s, 30s, and 40s than you can today out of the goddamn newsletters and news sites. Because this shit actually was legitimate documentation put out by the athletic commissions and things were still, they tried to make wrestling so legitimate in those days
Starting point is 03:30:26 that they did the legitimate things, contract signings, and various things that other sports and businesses would do and then work the shit amongst themselves behind the scenes. But you get great facts and figures and, you know, details on all of these things that you would never get. So many of the promoters, I'll say this, and I'll let you have a chance. So many of the promoters back then,
Starting point is 03:30:57 the only way they could promote was with the newspapers because they didn't have, there was no television. It's not they didn't have it, nobody had it. And especially the Goulis Welch office in Tennessee, but a lot of them,
Starting point is 03:31:11 they got good relationships with the newspapers where they would actually, when the newspaper printed a write-up up on the matches, they would give the finish. As the office had given it today, well, Brian came in with a stick and hit the guy over the head and the referee didn't see it and the fans were upset. So next week, it's going to be a cage. That's the way they promoted.
Starting point is 03:31:34 So you'd actually, when's the last time that a newspaper in the United States of America printed the actual finish of a fucking wrestling match? That's why if it, now if it wasn't for the internet, all the smart fans and the newsletters or whatever, we wouldn't know what to fuck happened in these matches, but a hundred years ago, or even less, in the 40s and 50s, they were printing the finishes in the paper so that the fans would know when they went next week,
Starting point is 03:32:08 what had happened the previous week if they missed it. And again, it was a newspaper culture. That's why the people like William Randolph Hearst became so powerful. Everyone read the newspaper. Yes. That was the thing. I mean, they might not read it cover to cover, and you know me, not only am I old,
Starting point is 03:32:27 but my father was in a newspaper business. They wouldn't read it cover to cover, but everybody got a paper. Because some of them only wanted to see the sports. Kids wanted to see the comics. The women wanted to see the today's living section. The fucking, there was something,
Starting point is 03:32:44 whoever's buying or selling wants to classify it. But one way or another, a newspaper got into everybody, house and everybody's hands and these guys were on the front pages of it. That's why they were the biggest stars in the world. And then
Starting point is 03:33:00 we have, the wrestling business has contracted and become smaller while all of the other businesses and sports that weren't that big of a deal have shot past. Ha! for a time machine. Oh, did you say you want a time machine?
Starting point is 03:33:21 Hold on. Uh-oh. That's not good. That's not a time machine. Right now it won't stop. Back to you, Jim. Good evening, Mr. and Mrs. America, and all the ships at sea. Let's go to press.
Starting point is 03:33:45 Jim Londos and Strangler-Lewis will battle for the wrestling championship at Wrigley Field, and that'll be the first real battle anybody has put up there in several years. Ask Mr. Kamiski. And now, the weather. No, that's a kind of, you know, you got the news from the newspaper. And that's what happened. And that's why Jimmy Landos is still the biggest draw in the history of the wrestling business. But again, I know the tickets didn't cost a lot.
Starting point is 03:34:15 But this is a country of 350 million people now as opposed to what was it? $150 million in the 30s. No air travel, no interstates, primitive motor cars. And this motherfucker is putting 10, 15. thousand or more in the ballparks in Boston and New York and Chicago, 30,000 to see him wrestling these guys with no television, limited radio and newspaper coverage. That's a big star. Just like me, I'm a big star too, and I'm back.
Starting point is 03:34:56 Brian, we're doing 2026 like it's never been done before. Does that make any sense? Well, I guess it's true, actually. It's very true, but it might not make any sense. But we're going to do 2026 like it's never been done before all this year when we have more great shows and witty repartee and amusing banter and pithy conversation. Are you ready to be pithy with the people in 2026? Oh, there's going to be a lot of pithiness, and we're going to be right back with the drive-thru in a few days,
Starting point is 03:35:28 and we've got a lot of big stories on there to talk about. We're still getting caught up. A big... That's right. Am I told it? going to do three shows this week. Well, we're going to record. We'll talk about offering.
Starting point is 03:35:40 We're recording three shows at a one week period to catch up because we had our break. But I'm thinking if we did extra shows before the break and we're doing extra shows after the break, did we really get a break or do we just rib ourselves? Of course, folks, if you think that we're working really hard, you get sent money. That's always encouraged, send money. But this is your show. where where would you like them to send it i've got a i've got a post office box in louisville if you'd like them and i'll promise i'll send you your half well you're an honest guy
Starting point is 03:36:14 that's true as far as you know all right we're done here aren't we are we done here oh certainly yes can we be done here yeah it's it's 419 in the day so by the time that i wrap this up it'll be 420. Folks, the experience is over for the first week of January, but the drive-through is coming and the experience is coming back and a bunch of people are trying to kill themselves and we're going to watch them do it. And joining me is going to be Brian all year, except if, I don't know, you may have some type of time travel on your own. We may have to get a guest host on standby, just in case you've got to go back in time and pick up Jim Londos's fucking train tickets.
Starting point is 03:37:00 Yeah. But nevertheless, and now it's 420. Okay, I meandered long enough. It's 420. Time to get out of here. Yeah. It's time.
Starting point is 03:37:10 Thank you. Fuck you. Bye, bye, everybody.

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