Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 619: The More Things Change, The More They Remain The Same
Episode Date: February 2, 2026This week on the Experience, Jim looks back at his first TNA agent reports from 2006! Plus Jim reviews AEW Dynamite, and talks about Powerhouse Hobbs becoming Royce Keys, Ava leaving WWE, the agent vs.... Tony Khan's alleged burner account, Roman Reigns's comments about WWE creative, Minneapolis, and much more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: SHOPIFY: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/jce PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/JCE and use code JCE to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! RAYCON: The Essential Open Earbuds are here to help you go for gold. Go to buyraycon.com/jceopen to get 15% off. DRAFTKINGS: Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now and use code CORNETTE to turn five bucks into three hundred in bonus bets if your bet wins. @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Like the midnight and the rock and roll.
He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control.
He's in Kornet.
The keys to the future.
Hell by Nets.
Where today we're going to talk about everything from current AEW to classic TNA to prove that the more things change,
the more they remain the same.
And joining me, my co-host hasn't changed.
Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line
the King of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network
Mr. Co-host to you
you never change the channel
when he's on the air
be great Brian last everybody
Aloha Jim
a pleasure to be here once again
you surprised me with the news
of what one of the topics
we're going to discuss here on the show
will be today and I'm pretty excited about that
and we have dynamite
and I got some news
that'll blow your mind Brian I'm on some drugs
I'm doing this show on drugs, on pharmaceuticals.
I've got a variety of conditions here that we're going to discuss just briefly,
and I don't give me any falderall, you Cretans, you and J. Sharknato, about the,
well, he's got the dry mouth or he's a little raspy or whatever.
Not only am I on a heavy-duty antihistamine, but I'm also on.
on the steroids. I could break out into a rage at any moment. So tread, tread lightly around me
today, Mr. Last, because it could be your last day. Well, what happened to you? I mean,
you were fine the other day. Well, I'm all right now, but last week, as a rough shape.
No, I went, I went for my annual physical and, and check up at the doctor and the renewal of
my, you know, a few prescriptions I take.
I'm 64 years old now.
I got to stay on top of this shit.
And I think I said this last year, I have bad news for everybody.
I'm mostly okay.
But I'll have you know that before I get into what I'm on,
Brian, think about this.
I'm a 64-year-old man that's been involved in professional wrestling
in some way or another for 50 years.
and then driven 2 million miles and flown wherever the fuck I've flown to and got they've been flung off scaffolds.
And my weight is 192 pounds and my blood pressure was 120 over 84 and my cholesterol is 196.
How is this possible?
How is this possible?
I think you have a funny doctor who's playing games.
No.
And lying to you about the results.
I'm looking at the documentation.
They took my blood.
They took my blood.
Where did they take it?
They took it in another room.
And then when they brought it back,
it looked so much better.
No, to be quite honest,
I do have to get off of the Reesey cups
and eating cake.
because the only high thing was my glucose is mildly elevated,
which can be corrected.
As the phrase goes, corrected with diet,
means quit eating the fagarese cups, you fat fuck, right?
Well, formerly fat fuck.
But I got the weakness for things like that.
And then the antihistamine I'm on is for my squishy ear
that has been squishy.
I've referred to it on the program numerous times
that I've been echoing in my right ear.
He said, oh, yeah, he looked in with the little pointed thing.
And he said, yeah, it's about 40 or 50% obstructed or colluded
or occluded or whatever the fucking phrase was.
And he suggests that we start, because when I sniff, I can feel it in this.
Let's start with the antihistamines.
Take one of these every day for 30 days.
and see if that, you know, and then we'll go from there.
Well, there's been three fucking days,
and it's dried up everything except my fucking ear.
Right now I'm sitting, my mouth is so fucking dry.
I'm wanting to walk over to the cold window and lick it.
You just get some goddamn moisture.
So I'm trying to drink it so many sprites.
I'm having to piss in a jug at the desk,
like fucking Jim Ross on a four-hour pay-per-view.
I'm drinking now.
And my throat's dry, my mouth is dry.
My eyes are a little dry, but the ear is still echoing.
And I'm on the steroids, Brian, for my goddamn elbow tendon or muscle or whatever that I've told you about.
From when I was using that cutting cord on the pole saw this past summer,
and it still bothers me on and off in various activities throughout the day when I just make some
odd movement and he's he's trying to boost me up a little bit
and he can give me a referral to a podiatrist he said well what they need to do
on that callus on your big toe that you keep having a scrape or it feels like
somebody's giving you a fucking hot foot is they go in there and they cut the core out of
that callus and then it'll heal from the inside out and I'm not sure I
decided to avail myself of that opportunity or just keep scraping off the top of it.
Oh, just do it. You won't feel anything. They'll use some lidecane, numb the area.
You won't feel anything. And then they take it out. One, two, three. You put some Vaseline on it for a few
weeks. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three.
That was another show, so none of our listeners know what we're talking about.
one of the random references
from a previous show.
It's a call back to that.
Well, folks, you got to keep
up and listen to them in order also.
But anyway, so I'm somewhat
hampered with trying
to stay
in a proper fucking vocal
tone here today. So bear with me
every once in a while.
And I just watched
the local news just to prove that it's
not just chaos in the
nation, but it's, it's, it's locally is always sucks also.
There had been a trial going on, Brian.
See whose side you would have been on now.
This guy had a strong defense, strong defense for what he did, what he was accused of.
So apparently, this guy was married, they had three kids, all of them under five.
And the guy was said to have received a picture of his.
wife holding hands with one of her coworkers, which caused trouble in their marriage.
And then he went to the trouble, I'll have you know, of cooking her a, because this happened
on Valentine's Day, cooking her a special Valentine's Day dinner, which the quote on the
news was apparently the defense said his dinner was not well received that was the quote
what action do you think is appropriate for this man to take against his wife his mother of
his children i don't understand how he got to court what's the issue that got at the court
well what got it to court is after he got this picture of her holding hands with one of her
co-workers and then
she didn't like the fucking Valentine's
dinner that he fixed for her. He choked her.
He beat her. He stabbed her 40 times.
Jesus!
While the three kids were all in the house
and then sent a picture of the body
to a family group chat.
Wow. Yeah, I would give him the death penalty.
Do you? Well, I'm just saying,
now see, the defense would say, well, he
in a fit of rage. Guilty. In a fit of
In a fit of rage, everybody can understand there's rage about it.
In a fit of rage, he did these things.
Because he was obviously coerced and...
Leave the house.
Fuck all for friends.
That's...
Fix the rage.
What the fuck?
Yeah, death penalty.
Kill him.
Guilty.
Well, I don't know what's...
I don't think it's got to that phase yet where they've decided what's
going to go on there.
But he's guilty.
We know that much.
But whatever they're going to do with him has remains...
But he seemed to be remand.
Morseful when he was sitting there.
There was an article in the New York Post today.
Let me see if I could pull it up.
It was about like a divorce that is because of an indecent proposal, you know, from the
movie, an indecent proposal that has now, soon to be ex-wife, received from her boss.
Let me see if I could find this.
But it was like she was offered millions of dollars and all this, and she was like, yeah.
I guess apparently she took it.
Here's the headline.
Married real estate mogul offered some.
subordinate, multi-million dollar
indecent proposal to leave her
husband for him, according to
the lawsuit.
He offered her $3 million
plucked from his company's stocks
as part of an indecent proposal
to steer her away, according to the
bombshell lawsuit. Tamir
Poleg, the chief executive
of the Utah-based real estate
firm, Real Brokerage,
allegedly tried the bribe
Paige Steckling,
a married mother of two who
work for him. Page Steckling, with heaps of cash, real estate deals, and lavish trips,
according to a lawsuit filed by her husband, Michael Steckling.
Michael accused Pollig of destroying his marriage through the incessant attempts to poach
Paige, according to the lawsuit obtained by the Daily Mail.
Page confirmed her divorce in a statement to the outlet.
my marriage ended for personal reasons and the claims made in this lawsuit do not reflect the reality of those circumstances.
I'm confident the legal process will address any inaccuracies, she said.
He claimed that he and Page never even considered divorcing until Pollack started to chase his wife.
It divulges a specific deal Polling offered her in January 2022, a glamorous $1.5 million.
home in Park City, Utah, and they promise to, quote, take care of her needs if she left
Michael in the dust. Poleg left his wife around the same time. Page filed for divorce in February,
the lawsuit says. So he makes her the proposal in January, and then he leaves his wife and then she
leaves her husband the next month. So any thoughts on this? Well, but I'm just wondering if
So they're stuck with each other, though, rather than just a business transaction,
they actually have to be married and or and or to get living together on an ongoing basis now.
Is that, that's the way that I'm seeing it.
It wasn't just like, hey, I'll give you, the movie was like, I give you a million dollars, just fuck me.
One night.
Yeah, and to get it over with, but this whole thing, you got to, you're stuck with each other afterwards.
I, yeah, I don't know.
Pauling admitted.
Like Vince McMahon, who
this story reminds me of
and some of, but Vince McMahon said to me
one time when he, when he stooge
to me that Brian Lee had told him, he
leave the rest of my Smoky Mountain
dates of Vince needed him early.
If Vince came to me, he said, if he'd
do it to you, he'll do it to me. So I want to let
you know. So you already know what you're
fucking dealing with.
Well, Polack admitted to the Daily Mail
that he did send the email referenced in the lawsuit.
but claimed he was merely offering financial support that she had requested.
He flatly denied the laundry list of accusations,
quote, no offers, no romance, no interference, he told.
Great stipulations.
No disqualification.
Anything goes.
Lazy marriage.
Lazy marriage.
The mogul doubled down and asserted that Page often complained about her lackluster relationship,
and he gleaned that the couple didn't share any genuine love or affection.
Her soon-to-be ex-husband is seeking $5 million in damages
tied to the collapse of his marriage.
That's interesting.
The idea you could sue,
it's not even the person she had an affair with technically.
I mean, maybe they did, but it's before,
it's just the idea she took an offer to have an affair or leave her husband.
And then the husband gets to sue.
That's interesting.
Well, and then also, but the thing is, I was going to say,
the problem is the most fair arrangement that would be that if he sued,
he got his fucking wife back, but then at this point he don't want her.
So he'd rather have the money.
Possibly he'd rather have the money anyway.
Maybe he's trying to get his own fucking deal.
If you were looking for a home in Utah, would this make you seek her?
out as an agent, or would this make you stay away?
Or would you think, you know, maybe we'll have a good time looking at houses.
If I was looking for a home in Utah, I'd be looking for a fucking psychiatrist.
Well, that's the local news, at least from my end.
In Utah, you've got a second home in Utah now?
Well, I feel like any small town now will be incorporated into local news,
and Utah as a state is a small town.
well there you go.
All righty, before we get to the wrestling part,
I promised today,
and I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it
for the people like, oh, God, we take it away from this shit.
But we have to talk about it.
And as I mentioned a week or two ago,
when I read the email from one of the listeners,
thanking me for talking about it from Minneapolis.
And I think,
I know a lot of people don't want to hear me talk
about this because it's just
you don't want to
think about it going on.
And some of the people are, well, I don't like to listen
to politics because they ain't yours. I don't
get a fuck about you.
But a lot of people are just, can't I get away from it?
But that's the problem
is the only reason why
that some progress is being made
and that's not why I'm not just
so pissed off. Some
progress is being made in
the
court of public opinion, if nothing
else over this last deal.
We're going to mention it because I've checked in
with another member of our legal team who I will get back to it.
Everybody knows Stephen P. knew, but we've got a
we got an enforcer on a team.
He's a fucking guerrilla warfare fighter.
And I got some information from him.
But everybody by now has seen,
for the listeners around the world who are not inundated with this,
who don't have to look at it.
I shot somebody else in Minneapolis, five or ten times in the back.
His name was Alex Pready, and of course, as soon as it happened,
there was all of the top regime officials, including that little wannabe troll living under a bridge,
Bovino Nazi, Bovino and Christy Nome slams.
and the guy, their story was, oh my God, this gunwielding, you know, a protester brandished a weapon
and came loaded, ready to do maximum damage and inflict casualties to our law enforcement.
He's a domestic terrorist.
But the problem was this time, not only were there multiple videos from every angle from people
doing the same thing this guy was doing,
taking video with his phone
that showed that they were lied.
There wasn't a car this time where they get,
oh, he hit the gas, no.
The ice guys shoved this woman on her ass on a sidewalk,
and when he went to pick her up,
they grabbed him and jerked him off of her
and threw him down and about six of them
started kicking a shit out of him.
Immediately started spraying him in the face, too.
Oh, I'm so they had are.
they had already tear gassed him.
When he turned to help the woman up,
he'd already been tear gassed.
I forgot, thank you, Brian.
Shoveed her down, on her ass,
tear gassed him, he turns to try to help the woman up.
They jerk him off.
They continue to kick the shit out of him.
They realize he's got a gun in his pants
that he never went for and can't get to
because he's blind with six people on top of him.
and they pull a gun away from him
and then two different agents
shoot him five to ten times in the back
and the video
everybody sees it
they can't lie their way out of it this time
they still are
they're still trying to but now
nobody except the people
in this sick
world of theirs
actually believe them
everybody else is seeing
that they would say this
if a guy fucking was standing there
naked with his hands in the air,
he went for an automatic rifle.
That's what they've been doing.
This is why
when people talk about it,
it means a difference.
Anyway,
the point is, go ahead, ask me, I'm sorry.
Did you see the statement from the NRA?
Because that was one of the interesting little things here.
Yes.
He was being attacked
verbally after the fact, after he was murdered
for being a domestic terrorist,
he came to inflict mass damage
because he was carrying a gun on him.
I wouldn't have done that.
I don't think that was the greatest thing to do.
However, it was his right.
And the people attacking him for doing that
are usually the people defending everyone's right
to have a gun in America.
The NRA came out and said,
this guy didn't do anything wrong.
This guy was a legal gun carrier.
He had a permit.
He carried his gun.
He didn't do anything.
He didn't brand the shit.
He didn't pull it out.
That's what I'm saying.
They have,
Schittler and the rest of his henchmen
have gotten used to be able to just blame the other guy,
blame the victim, blame the whatever the fuck,
to the point where they blame themselves into coming back
and blaming themselves their own fucking side.
And the Second Amendment people's heads are on fire,
having double knock.
which, wait a minute, we're mad at ourselves.
What the fuck is going on?
They championed that weasel-faced little Kyle Rittenhouse,
who was a teenager, brought a fucking automatic rifle
that his parents had bought for him to a Black Lives Matter protest.
On the wrong side of it, he was against the Black Lives Mattering.
And he needed to bring the biggest gunty to find for some reason.
Yes, and he had an automatic.
I'm at a assault rival and he shot three people.
And he got to the White House and fucking
Schindler shook hands with him.
Because he was defending his Second Amendment rights.
This guy was helping a woman up off sidewalk
while he'd already been tear gassed and they jerked him down,
took his gun away from him, and shot him.
And then they came out.
Well, he brought a firearm and brandished a firearm
and had came ready to do mass casualties to our law enforcement officers.
And they've got the video.
No, he didn't.
No, he didn't.
He was videoed with his cell phone.
So now, again, the group who had said that they was their existence, the NRA was to make
sure that the fucking people carried their guns and their Second Amendment rights,
they could rise up against a tyrannical government.
The goddamn tyrannical government that said they shouldn't carry guns to a protest has finally arrived and the call came from within the house.
So anyway, this guy turned out to be a nurse in the intensive care unit at a veterans hospital.
And his job was treating veterans who have served the country.
They played a video of him giving honor to one of the patients that passed away and reading about the freedom and patriotism and everything.
And the government that he was serving the service members of has just finished shooting him in the back.
So obviously, mass protest, news coverage, outrage, there are some cosmetic changes going on.
See, don't think that this regime
wants to change anything.
They're doing this shit on purpose,
and they only got,
they're changing because they got caught.
And they're going to do the same shit elsewhere
if they can get away with it.
That's why we need to talk about it.
But they pulled, again, that little troll Bovino
and sent him somewhere in an office
somewhere to fucking fester and rot.
They took his social media accounts away from him.
Did you see that?
He no longer had access.
No, because I wasn't on his social.
fucking media, but, you know, they've sent him somewhere, not to prison, unfortunately.
And more people are calling for Kirstie Nome's fucking, oh, somebody called her a Twatsey.
I thought that was a really creative.
I've never heard that before.
They're calling for her to resign or be impeached or whatever the case.
And she's already, well, I'm just following orders as a familiar, you know, Nuremberg.
The governor, or I'm sorry, not the governor, but a candidate for governor in Minnesota, the next election, Walls is not running.
There was a Republican that was going to run for governor, and he came out and made a statement that he was pulling out of the race because why bother?
Because the national Republican party, the administration has made it impossible for a Republican ever to win an election in the state of Minnesota again.
So he's like,
fuck it, idiots.
And they're trying to rein in the ice agents.
Was it Newsom that said,
no ice agent will ever get a job in the state of California
if we get these records.
This will follow them the rest of their lives.
The Democrats are threatening a shutdown
if they don't take funding for ICE out of this bill
that they again have to sign.
But he,
are starting to recognize that's the most important thing is they've started to turn people off of this
fucking ridiculousness that aren't just hook line and sinker normal reasonable people that may have just
not been tuned in and if we don't keep calling them out on them on calling them out on it
every time that we have to and that they do these things they're going to try to do it else
And if we can keep this momentum going, if I don't care if you vote for Democrats or independence or none of the above in the midterms.
If there is a way that we can hamstring, handcuff, hold up this entire administration until the next election as much as possible to just throw stumbling blocks in his past.
at everything, then hopefully the end of his term can be followed soon by the start of his sentence.
But until then we've, so I mentioned real quick and I will, this last thing I'm going to say,
a lot of people know our legal team, Stephen P. New, of course, is one of the most famous
attorneys since Atticus Finch.
but another member of the team is a fellow out in California named Andre Verdun.
And because this is more, whereas Stephen has definitely sued governments, as we know,
the state of West Virginia and various municipalities on behalf of people,
Andre, being from California, has had more background in immigration.
And I'd asked him, is there a way I can publicize?
Is there a fun?
because here's the thing.
Look at all these videos, Brian,
that we've seen of them bashing in people's windows
and throwing their grandmothers down
and tear gas the baby.
They're trying to deport a five-year-old child
that is now in a detention center somewhere in Texas
because they're going to deport him and his father at the same time.
This kid's probably mentally scarred for life.
that's a goddamn super villain origin story.
I said, is there a fund or a nonprofit organization or whatever
to provide legal aid for citizens and immigrants alike
to sue the United States government for damages,
civil rights violations, assault, personal injury, property damage,
death of a family member,
instead of our taxes going to this fucking pig
in his criminal family's pockets
and to further this kind of activity,
at least we'd be, as the federal government,
we, the people would be paying out to these people
that have been fucked with by these fucking assholes.
And unfortunately, he said,
there is no organized centralized movement per se
where there's a boy you could boom
because of not only, and he, believe me,
he filled me in on the statutes of the,
bullshit qualified immunity, sometimes unqualified immunity that various law enforcement
entities have and the courts that have ruled and don't want to rule. In fact, this fucking
stooge has stacked many of the courts by this point. The ACLU for the, again, for the folks
around the world, the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU is of cause that he has worked with
and he's done a lot of immigration work
and he believes in theirs and he says you win
you win small
battles in the war
but the war is ongoing
but the more that they show
who they are the more that it chips
away at their support
and we may need to make sure that everybody knows
who the fuck they are
for the people they shoot
or the kids they lock up
or the women and the elderly
that they assault and gas,
that all reflects on you know who
because he and his band of fanatics
and whack jobs that he surrounded himself with
are the architects of it.
By the way, Brian Measles is back.
You know, Measles is fucking,
it's making a comeback, man,
it's like Frankie Valley in the early 70s.
It's everywhere now.
You see this?
Mid-70s.
I wouldn't say early 70s.
Well, you know what I'm saying.
But anyway, I guess we got to talk about some wrestling on the program today, Brian,
and there's somebody, he's changing his name.
A guy who's so ashamed of his past, he's changing his name.
No, we'd love him.
Powerhouse Hobbs, our friend Willie Hobbs,
I guess Dusty would have loved him.
Willie Hobbs, I can see it right now.
And here come Willie Hobbs.
Willie Hobbs are big and bad.
He just fucks up everybody.
Powerhouse Hobbs' new name
and the WWE is going to be...
Well, I'm not sure, Brian,
is it Royce Keys or is it Hoise Keys?
I believe it's Royce.
He's not Portuguese or Brazilian.
Well, but, I mean, the most famous Royce I know is a hoist.
Royce Royce.
That's right.
Hoyce Gracie.
So, and it's spelled the same way, so don't you say, immediately,
and he's going to be over with the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu community,
but they're all going to be at the matches.
They're going to hoise, hoice, hoice, hoice, hoist.
I don't know if that's going to be the problem,
but before you go any further, the basic question right here at the beginning,
does Royce Keyes pass the name test?
First of all, I'm, in all seriousness, I guess they gave him some input or
some option or whatever because Royce is his son's name is will Hobbs real son's name right so
i'm not shitting all over royce as just a name but for him the way he looks the beast that he is
the physical mountain of a man and the combined with keys and i don't know where that came from
and you have Royce Keys,
that sounds like some kind of evil stockbroker
rather than Powerhouse Hobbs,
which kind of sounds like what you see
when you're looking at Will Hobbs.
So, and I mean, the name test may be irrelevant these days
because of all of the manufactured names
they've got coming through developmental,
they'll just put anybody on there anyway.
But I don't, I need, I need more information.
You know, Powerhouse Hobbs was a refreshing name, actually.
It's one of those things AEW got right.
Just giving them the name Powerhouse, simple, said everything you need to say.
And it worked.
It's a throwback to Crusher or Lasowski, as opposed to just Reggie Lasowski.
But to just give them a completely new NXT porn name.
seems stupid to me.
I know they did it to Ricky Starks.
They clearly have like a pecking order of guys that they think are
famous enough coming off AEW TV
that they won't change their name
and then other guys they will.
But this is one of those times.
A.A.W. had a good name for him.
Ricky Starks becoming Ricky Saints.
I still think it's stupid.
But, you know, it's still Ricky.
It's still Ricky, at least.
It's near. It's close.
All of a sudden, Powerhouse, Hot.
the people who saw him in A.W.
And again, all the talk we do about the ratings,
a lot of people saw him in A.E.W.
He's now going to be Royce Keys.
Even Powerhouse Keys would be better than Royce.
Like, you just, it can't just be another name,
just a generic, give us a name.
We need a name that we can own.
And I'm agreeing with you,
except I understand both sides of it.
They want to own even the Ricky Starks to Ricky,
Saints was
I'm sure somebody
in the legal department that says well
Ricky is a common enough name but
Powerhouse indicates the intellectual property
is Zababudab and the Foonam's Noom
but to point being I know that
the W.W.E wants to own as much
as they can of the intellectual property
and for the merchandising and blah blah blah
but as
as ACDC said it's a long way
to the top if you want to rock and roll
it's a long way from powerhouse hobbs to Royce Keys.
As I said, you conjure up an image of this giant brute or this evil stockbroker.
Could they not have played off of powerhouse and dynamous strength?
I don't fucking know.
I'll get the dictionary out here in a minute if you make me.
And in some way, pay an homage to what he looks like and what he has done before.
and just I can't think of a more opposite name
from what he's had than what this is.
But for the money, apparently, but here's the thing.
Brian, I've got documentation here for the accounting department sent this over.
And the problem is it's accounting from Uncle Dave.
And between the run-on sentences that are interrupted by parenthetical asides
and the lack of punctuation
for literally days at a time
he fucking loses me
but there are
things that we could point out
and comment on here just
and also I would question
how he knows these things
except I guess
we know how he knows these things
Tony Kyle
come out and play
anyway
apparently he got
the information from somewhere
that Hobbs got an AEW offer to stay
that was basically a number
that it would have been higher than anybody in the company
but Jericho was making in 2019.
And I'm thinking that means at least a level of a million dollars,
does it not?
I would think it would absolutely be a million dollars.
I mean, if you think about that,
the original crew of people, Omega Cody,
Youngbucks, those
were like the big guys with Jericho,
Moxley,
yeah, it'd be over a million dollars.
Was Moxley there at the start
or did he slink in when we weren't looking?
Well, he was there at the start of Dynamite.
He debuted at a pay-per-view earlier that year, I think.
That's right.
Remember they had paper views before they had TV?
That well, true.
And they had the horse before they had the cart.
but also he says it would be in line with what Brian Danielson got to jump from
WW to AEW maybe slightly less but in line that would seem to indicate a little more
than just a million dollars wouldn't it wouldn't you think I would think uh more than the guys
the level of Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane I wonder why he mentions them specifically
we're making four years ago less than they are making now
in the range of what a guy, the level of Seth Rollins,
was making around the same time in 2019.
So they,
AEW offered him that much money,
but he obviously turned it down because he's gone to the WWE,
which Uncle David admits he doesn't know,
wonder why.
But I wonder how many wrestlers who negotiated with Tony,
even though they resigned with WWE,
are unhappy about their salary details,
out there.
Well, but also when you look at, I mean, there's many different ways and from different
vantage points you can look at this.
Great for Hobbs that he's had good money deals, no matter which side he took that he's got
and the opportunity and blah, blah, blah.
But Dave is pursing this in terms of a how it shows how salaries have increased now
with a promotional war going on.
I'll agree it's a bidding war.
I don't know so much about the promotional war,
but it's a bidding war.
So when this bidding war,
and that's what the WWE was afraid was going to happen,
not because they're afraid of losing the war,
but goddamn, if they see a guy that they think they can make some money with
or that can be a star in a wrestling business
or that they could elevate,
but Tony wants them too,
then if they take the big money offer from Tony,
because he wants them,
WWE doesn't get them.
And at the same time,
they may never be developed
as as big a star as they could have been
if WW had got them
because they will be an AEW
till whatever happens with AEW happens.
and that's i can see people in w w getting mad not only from a standpoint of the here and now
but a standpoint of jesus christ is this guy going to take the prime years away from a lot of
just people in the wrestling talent pool for the sake of the industry that will be
hamstrung or handicapped on their or possibly prevent
from getting on their path to start them
because they're taking the rich kids money
and they're hidden over there.
So I think that to me is something we need to start looking at.
Well, getting through it says something
if powerhouse Hobbs had been there for years
and after all that time he was offered,
if we are to believe what Dave said here
and we have no reason not to,
we know who his sources are,
that he was offered this amazing deal.
he knows what the schedule will be.
He knows there's a good chance I'll get this money
and at some point during the three or five year deal
I will just be at home for months at a time.
Yeah.
That's a reality you have to kind of expect.
Even if you don't fall out with Tony,
he'll just take you off TV for a while
because he doesn't know what to do.
He turned that down to go to WWE.
WWE, see, you kind of hit on it there.
They're unhappy by AEW
because the more they have to pay wrestlers,
the less they can gift themselves back.
The top executives in that company,
because you just have to look every quarter
to see how much Nick Con or Triple H or The Rock,
how much any of these guys are getting in stock compensation,
and then how much they turn around and sell in stock.
That's why they don't want to pay the wrestlers a lot.
We heard Triple H in Unreal say that his strategy with our truth,
and again, we're talking about a wrestler in his mid-fifference.
50s, but still, his strategy was make him think that it's over so that he'll come back to the
table and give us a more reasonable deal.
And he went the other way and WWE did what they do now.
They paid them.
They paid, they've paid guys specifically not to go to AEW.
They've paid guys specifically to be a part of what they're doing in Mexico against CMLL.
Like now they're paying guys.
Just sometimes you have to, let me say it this way.
There's probably never been a better time
to call WWE's bluff on a contract
and trying to get the most out of it.
Never a better time than right now to do that.
And again, they're putting all this money
if we ought to believe it behind Hobbs.
Again, they can cut them at any time.
It's a WWE deal.
Makes your question why give them a shitty name.
No one there could recognize
that anything, anything else,
Strong House Jones,
just anything
fucking else
would be better
than Royce Keys.
The winner of the match,
the new
WWE champion,
Royce Keys.
I don't see it.
I don't see it,
but again,
Tony offered him
a lot of money.
He said no.
Anna Jay apparently
is floating around
out there right now.
Tony couldn't re-sign her.
Anna Jay's floating around?
Boy.
You know what I mean.
She must have lost a little weight.
Well, Tony couldn't sign her, and we'll see what happens in the future.
But Tony is now at the point where in the early days he could throw all this money at guys and get a lot of them.
And now he could throw all the money at the guys.
And if they've been in AEW a while, they probably want to get out.
Unless you're a top, top guy and are used well.
That's why MJF will probably stay there for a very, very long time.
He doesn't have to worry about being at the top.
He's at the top.
and it's a pretty cemented place in AEW once you're there.
But they're not going to know.
Where's Tony going to get the talent now?
Because if he can't win a bidding war against WWE,
what is he going to offer them?
Well, now, hold it.
He can still win bidding wars against the WWE
when the WWE wants him to win them.
There's,
the, WWE's not just going to,
shit, we'll take everybody.
you know, but the problem is, is that most of the people who have a future want to go to the
WW, most of the people who've had a past might want to go to AEW just for, you know, a quick one.
But there's no, as we've talked about, no game changers, no names, no stars that are going to
appear that we haven't thought of and signed with AEW in the near future or that are going
to leave while they are still of major box office value.
And we'll talk about the one that left here this past week and joined Tony
is going to up their in-ring.
And because it's AW is going to matter zilch in terms of business.
And it's a good move for them.
And he'll be a good fit there.
We'll get there.
But that's kind of an example of the kind of guy they can get off WWETV right now.
The ricochet, the Tomasa.
There you go.
The guys who were kind of middle of the road, mid-card,
and never going to get past that in WWE.
But that's kind of the problem is that Tony,
and see, here, he was offering Hobbs that much money.
If he had took it, okay,
just anybody out there listening to my voice right now,
whatever you think about,
what I think about wrestling or what you,
wrestling you like or whatever, make a mental list of the people that you think in AEW should
be rated above terms of, well, they're in the main events or their champions and all this stuff,
should have been not just work rate, but they're important people. How many were above
powerhouse Hobbs on that list? Brian, what would you, would you say 10, 15, 20? The way that Hobbs has
been presented and used.
I don't have a number, but I would think it's a lot of guys.
Hobbs has never been used past being the tough best friend or the muscle or, you know,
just the guy in the group who's not the top guy.
He was the guy in the team with the guys that, okay, if he was going to make over a million
dollars, then those guys had to be pretty much making over a million dollars or some of them
are about to.
Wouldn't that now that they've heard this, right?
but I would think all of them already are.
That's 20 guys making over a million dollars a year.
And when we went through the roster, he's got like 150
on some form of arrangement,
whether he's stringing him along or has him locked down to contracts.
And the productions that they're doing,
where they do two national broadcasts
with the travel and the crew and the fucking,
for a while they were in the big buildings.
Now they're in the small building, but still,
that's again the points to what I've talked about
with the fact that when making a huge profit,
being responsible to stockholders or partners in the company
and privately held, anybody wasn't making any money.
Tony is free of those constraints.
He don't have to make any money.
and I know Uncle Dave keeps saying
the second most profitable
wrestling company in history
because of the TV deal
because Tony tells him that
but if you sit and do the math
and profitable from the time they signed
the deal going forward like we just started there
or how much did Tony spend to get there
but how many millions is going out to talent
that we never see
and the fucking giant travel bill that comes with bringing a bunch of guys
that you never see on the TV to the TV to maintain a secondary vanity promotion
and blah blah blah the only way that Tony is able to do this is if he says okay
I'll just now that I'm breaking even I'll just break even he doesn't care about making a profit
it's millions and millions of dollars.
Well, it pays to have a rich dad.
I think that's the point.
You can do whatever you want if your dad's a billionaire,
and it gives you a monthly allowance of plus or minus a billion dollars
or whatever the hell it is.
But this is AEW, this is the way it's going to go,
but we'll see how it goes in the future
when Tony wants to re-sign someone
and WWEs in the same range salary-wise
as to what Tony's offering.
It's going to create a lot of interesting decisions.
Well, like I said, if you're on the way up, I'd go north.
And if you're on the way down, I'd go south.
When AEW started and they signed a whole bunch of guys, the multi-year deals for like
750,000 a year and more, at a time where that still was a lot of money.
I mean, it still is, but you know what I mean with the way salaries have gone up in six years.
And then when WW realized, we got nothing to worry about, they released all those people.
they put them back into the general population
and just hope some other group would grab them
so it'll be interesting
because the money game has changed
and that's the thing is once they saw
what was going on or like okay
and they didn't think
that anybody would go this far
they thought look at this shit
and now it's
it's malingering on
but yeah but it's changed the
the boys can make it
ton of money now. It's just nobody
could ever work enough to get any good
because what do you've got
I mean, well, in the
WWE they have a program in place
where if you can
wrestle
in front of people often enough
to improve and
also be instructed and have some
support from booking.
In AEW, if you're
not on
their A or B show and you're doing
a ring of honor match is anybody wrestling three times a week there ever would they
maybe three times over two days because that's where they tape i don't know but the point is
you're not really going to progress you know so if if you're on the way up in the business
go north young man if you're on the way down in the business go south young man go south young
old man.
But you know you could cash in another way, Brian.
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I was hoping you'd agree with me.
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That seemed like a ridiculous thing for the 70s.
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Well, Brian, at this point, we come to, it's my show.
And I want to, again, now don't remember I'm on some drugs here.
I can snap at any moment cause mayhem.
It's my show, but I need your help because there's something going to,
going on between people, and I don't know who the fuck any of them are.
But apparently there is an account on Twitter that has been accused of being Tony
Khan under a presumed name.
And there is another guy that's been jousting with him named Nick Piccolo that apparently
is a super agent to the stars, but he's.
been the target of assassination attempts?
I don't know.
They try to kidnap him and drop him into Guatemala from a helicopter.
What is the...
Everybody is talking about this,
but I've seen people screenshoting the various back and forth
shenanigans between them,
and I don't know how the kids read these DMs and texts
and things like that.
So it's pretty much gibberish to me.
what the hell is going on here?
It's hard to explain.
I've been watching it because a lot of people have been sending it over,
and it's one of these things where whenever anyone sends an email with a link,
you have to do research to understand what is happening
and try to figure out who is who and what is what.
Apparently, spring or summertime,
this guy, Nick, I think his last name is Loh Piccolo, not Nick Piccolo,
like Brian Piccolo.
I thought low was his middle name.
No, it's Niccolo Piccolo.
And he started jousting with Dave Meltzer, I believe.
That was when it first came to my attention.
That was the first sign that, okay, this is interesting.
And, you know, your first thought wasn't, clearly this man is the agent for a lot of big stars.
And then when you see that, you're like, okay, this is an interesting tactic.
Let's see.
Let's see what happens here.
He does come off as a bit odd for a guy that, you know,
some highfalutin, high tootin finance going on,
an international yacht broker from Toulin, France.
Yeah, and this is coming from people who fight up with other people on Twitter
and have in the past.
But whatever it is, and I have here the tweet
that I guess a lot of people have been sending over,
I looked at his current Twitter, and, well, again,
You hate to make any kind of judgment and you don't know what is really going on.
Does it run through your mind he's been hacked when you look at his Twitter?
It seems like it's either that or if it's not that the best thing would probably be to get away from social media
and not have a social media account for a while and just enjoy life.
That would be my suggestion.
That's why I was wondering if this guy was a work or not, but apparently he's...
Really representing people?
Well, he apparently represents, I don't know if anyone has changed anything,
because I also have an article here that he just got, well, people are saying he got fired,
but the official article is that he exits paradigm after 17 years.
This is last week.
And it says here, his roster included, or includes, because they're still going to,
apparently he's taking his clients and he's going to still work with the company,
so I don't know what the hell this means.
Aaron Donald, Reggie Bush, Ray Lewis, Sean Avery, Amanda Serrano, Zhang Wellie, Jorge Mazdaevidal, Masvedol.
Not him!
Yeah, I can't even say his last name.
Massvedal.
C.M. Punk.
Drew McIntyre.
Oh!
Jade Cargill.
Liv Morgan.
She doesn't get one of your moans.
Liv Morgan.
I can't just do.
Who, who, who.
Tiffany Stratton.
and more than a dozen
WWE superstars and emerging talent
who are expected to benefit from his
agency plus relationship in this transition
according to deadline here
it's a very
then why is he going back and forth
with an account that he accuses
of being Tony Kahn under a presumed name
and saying that
Tony Kahn has threatened his children
or whatever the fuck's going on?
Here's a post from the 27th.
It's been edited,
and it has four images here of previous posts,
so we'll talk about them after the fact.
Here's what Nicolopiccolo,
this is what he tweeted out,
this pro-tony-Con account
that posts things that only Tony Khan would know
followed BJ Bethel
and other Tony co-conspirators,
followed TK-Bot Armies,
is Muslim,
anti-trans,
anti-Jade Cargill.
We just went downhill from there.
Anti-all of the same people as TK
immediately mass-deleted his posts
and locked his account down
after I tagged the NFL Commissioner
on Sunday night.
This must have hit too close to home
because, and this is in quotes,
obvious burner
at Ron
11479281
which is the account he's
accusing of being Tony Khan
reported my ex-account
to get it suspended
less than 15 minutes later after I tagged
the NFL. And I
connected the dots here.
But this guy has inside knowledge
if I got fired from Paradigm
12 days ago.
An anti-Zionist burner
obsessed with pro-Rest
wrestling and AEW with close connections to Hollywood?
Sorry, Tony, the VPN won't save you.
Again, there was attachments, but any thoughts on that screened?
You know, I recognize a lot of those words.
I just don't know all of the way that they're applied in the modern world,
but this guy doesn't sound balanced.
as far as
what the fuck
what about if he just picked up the phone
and called him we know Tony Kahn spends a lot of time
on a phone just pick him
and call him and tell him this instead of telling him
on fucking Twitter and
what is the goddamn
what in the world
I told on you to the commissioner
of the NFL
but here's another thing
that I would take it down the commissioner
knows quick quick quick
well yeah
Yeah, I would love to see the conversation
if the commissioner of the NFL called Tony Kahn to say,
why some fucking ridiculous lunatic
calling me about you tweeting under a burner account about wrestling?
Now, Tony, you know we've talked about this before.
Anti-trans isn't cool, but we certainly won't accept
anti-Jade Cargill.
What the fuck?
And again, he represents Jake Cargill,
the agent of Jade Cargill.
Oh, okay. Actually, the way I took it the way he wrote it, that, you know, he was trying to imply that Jade Cargo was a trans person there. He just looped it in all of a sudden.
And again, there are some attachments here. Here's him responding to someone. Yep, I've been dealing with this from Tony Khan and his minions online for seven plus months. At NFL football ops, at NFL commish. It crossed over into real, like.
harassment.
And then it says,
breaking news,
the talent agent
Nick Lopicolo exposes
Tony Khan's secret ex-burner account
story developing,
and the account that's being accused of being
Tony wrote,
obviously this is a burner,
but it's pretty flattering to think I'm someone
that high up,
or even in AEW,
or wrestling at all.
But I am close enough to people Nick knows
to be competent enough to say
what I've said. I noticed how your replies to me are very carefully worded. You've never outright
denied anything I've said. You've said things like, okay, bet, and post it, and you know exactly why.
Why don't you tell the class what Paradigm told you 10 days ago about your erratic behavior, Nick?
Oh.
So, I mean, that's, again, he actually said 10 days ago, so he knows, whoever this is knows
about some sort of conference or some sort of whatever.
Some sort of discussion.
Again, I'm just going back to, you know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago,
if Vince was dealing with Barry Bloom, the agent for all of the first round of guys
had got all these big contracts, they'd be on the phone, they'd be faxing,
professional communication, not fucking the airing of the grievances on Twitter
in an inexplicable fucking mishmash and threats and harassment and what the fuck.
I have a tweet here from Barry Bloom.
I have found Paul Vex burner account.
We'll see what this leads to.
You know, let me just say this again.
not knowing the participants here,
it seems like
Nick Lopiccolo may be going through something.
And again, I'm from afar.
I'm not trying to pass judgment,
but that's the way it comes across to me.
And a break from social media at a minimum
might be a healthy thing,
especially if you're being harassed.
That's my thought.
On the other hand,
Tony Kahn definitely has burner accounts.
And Tony Kahn, you know,
when people say, oh, he was just a fan.
He wasn't just a fan.
He was on message board shit posting.
He's a shit poster.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's like someone whose entire life has been online acting like his opinion matters.
So don't think...
He was early online, wasn't he?
So I don't think it's wrong to say Tony Khan is incredibly active on social media, especially
Twitter.
However, you know, it does see...
I don't know what to think about this.
What do you think about this?
I'm talking too much.
Well, here's what I think about.
This is my God.
This guy is going, his head's going to fucking just fall off his shoulders one of these days, Tony Kahn.
I can understand when you're a bored, rich kid, you know, on the fantasy message board or whatever when you're 16.
But seriously now, he's for however you think.
the job that he's doing, he's running this giant wrestling company while he allegedly has
responsibilities with football team and these other companies and he's the booker by himself and he's
at every show as we know and blah, blah, blah, blah, and he's got time to have multiple
Twitter accounts that he sits there and fucking, Jesus Christ, I don't have time for multiple
Twitter accounts and
I don't have to
impersonate anybody. I can say whatever
I want. But it's just
he's got all this shit
to do and he's got
time to
I, oh my God.
He needs to sleep and maybe
the booking would be better. What do you think?
You know, again, I'm
looking through his Twitter
and there's a lot of
missives that he's put out.
I don't even know if he's writing about himself
for if it's a third person because he's reposting.
FYI, that guy came to our house again last night.
I said, what do you want?
This is Nick posting, right?
This is Nick, yeah.
I said, what do you want?
He said, he wanted to talk to you.
I said, then why are you at my house?
And he said, please tell him to talk to me.
I said, I, again, I have no idea.
Too many pronouns, pal.
I said, I have nothing to do with any of this.
That makes two of us, Nick.
I said, I have nothing to do with any of this.
I gave Nick your number already.
He said, okay, thank you.
He said, there's all kind of shit about Nick online.
I said, that's terrible.
I told him we're done.
Please don't knock on my door again.
If he comes back, I'm not going to speak to him.
I didn't want to open the door when he knocked.
In fact, I yelled through the door.
Go away.
But there's a name or something redacted.
here, but blank opened the door, so we talked to him through the lock screen door.
That's the update.
What a crazy thing.
Sheesh.
When this is all over, maybe you can tell us what is going on.
Who is he talking to?
I don't even know if it's him talking to someone or someone talking to him or about him.
It also says here he's one of the top 35 sports agents of 2025 and...
That's what I'm saying.
Top 35 under 35 from a few years back.
Supposedly with this big company for 17 years
and he's supposedly he's got all his publicity in Forbes or whatever
and he's just unhinged on Twitter?
Again, that's the way it comes across.
You know, maybe he doesn't think it comes across that way.
Maybe he thinks that he's, I don't know what he thinks he's doing.
If you're being harassed and if someone's knocking on someone's door
for whatever the hell, whatever this is, go to the police and get all,
off Twitter. That's my advice.
Go to the cops, get off Twitter.
If you're being harassed and you're
locked screen doors being knocked upon,
put down your phone and
pick up your phone and call a fucking police.
By the way, what's the NFL commission
going to do? Now, Shad, your
son can't come to meetings if he's
going to shit post.
If he's going to use a burner
and get caught,
what are we all going to do with all of our
This is a South Park episode.
This is a fucking South Park episode
Can you see the PC principal
Is in the fucking school assembly
All right if you're gonna shit post
Shad, I'll take that draft kit
A billionaire come up
I'll take that draft pick
You won't have it if Tony keeps this up
We put up with the neck brace
That's one thing
But posting the details of
Whatever this is
That's a whole other thing
And now that it's been brought to our attention
Here in the middle of the night
by this person.
Yeah, I got the tweeted
4 o'clock in the morning.
The NFL commissioner
couldn't sleep the rest of the night
because he was so upset
at this horrible thing that was being done
that we can't even understand
and we are in the wrestling business.
Now, Tony, I just happen to be going
through my notifications,
and I saw that you've been naughty.
Anything you want to confess?
Hmm.
Well, good luck.
Nick and everyone else, we're not involved.
I guess that's the key here.
Again, and I want to put out a plea because like I did earlier in the show,
we have a far-reaching audience, anybody that can help give us information on things,
if you can, if someone can concisely encapsulate in writing in the form of an email,
who Nick Piccolo is
what his beef is with this
fucking account that he thinks is Tony Con and why
and who's been threatening who and knocking on
who's somebody's knocking on your door
somebody's giving you hell
do me a favor, open a door
and kick that motherfucker in the balls.
Oh yeah!
Can somebody explain this to us?
Email it to what's the goddamn email
that Brian that you'll actually see?
Corny Drive-Thru at Gmail.com.
Thereof a corny drive-thru at gmail.com.
And let us know.
And I'm looking through some of this.
Apparently he got in the middle of all this,
he got into a fight with Jelly Nutella online.
Or write a passage, if there ever was one.
And he released DMs that they had,
which is never a good thing to do.
And Jelly, Nutella's basically telling him to get help.
Oh, my God.
The fucking meth head from underneath the boardwalk
is telling this guy to get help.
What the fuck?
No, he comes across like a good guy here.
He basically get off the computer and gets him out.
Well, good luck to everyone involved.
Yes.
Good luck.
You know, maybe just if everybody just had a business to fall back on
and possibly a partner to put their big arm around them, Brian,
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If somebody was on your side,
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Can you think of, I don't know anybody we know
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No.
I don't know anyone who could help these people.
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Anyway, I guess, Brian, should we talk about now the,
the target of
Nick Piccolo's ire
our friends over
at AEW Tony Kahn's
romper room session they had another
television broadcast
again it reached right around
500,000
viewers which is what
they've been down to lately
would you like to talk about some of it
well I mean there were some interesting moments
got to see an injury in real time this week
Oh, Jesus Christ.
It's been a little while since we saw that.
We got to see some promo showcase, I guess we'll call it,
a showcase of everyone being able to stand around and wait their turn and do their promo.
Got to see someone's teeth fly out of their mouth almost.
You know, just a typical week of dynamite.
Well, you know, actually, I thought they opened up.
This is, I think I said, January 28th for the AW Dynamite.
but they started out with the best Kenny Olivier match
that has ever been held, in my opinion.
And that still may be faint praise,
but they come up on the air,
they hit his music immediately he's coming out.
He's over with that crowd in Austin, Texas.
I don't know what's the matter with people in Austin,
but nevertheless gets a nice response
and comes out and beats Rocky Ramirez.
in four minutes with his finish.
Boom, one, two, three.
Now, I'll get to the things I didn't like in a second,
but overall, if you've got this guy
who has been off for longer
and he's been on over the last couple years,
and now he's supposed to be in the world title mix,
and the last three people that have hospitalized him
have gotten away with it, as we've talked about,
so he should go out and beat somebody in four fucking minutes.
with his finish. They finally did what I've been asking them to do for fucking five years.
So I can't bitch about that. And because that's the only canny match that I've ever seen
that actually made a point and adhered to some kind of logic, I'm phrasing it the best.
But it taught me out of why I should feel this way, Brian, if you can, every move he makes in
the ring gets heat with me.
The finger pointing, the cheek puffing, the prancing, the skipping, the waving,
the bug eyes, the blowing kisses, the unnatural movements, the, I don't know how to explain.
He's the most obvious performer in wrestling.
You can't take any of it seriously because he's always making these goddamn oddball
fucking moves.
Am I just seeing
this on my own or is this there?
Well, I think there's a certain high impact
herky jerkiness to the Kenny Omega
move set, I guess we could say.
He, um,
you know, but this is always the way he's worked.
And when he runs to the,
to hit the ropes to run back and do something else
if you put the fucking sound effect from the cartoons
when Fred was trying to take off and skiddle.
The skiddle sound.
It would work.
Anyhow, that was that.
I was really pulling for Rocky Romero.
I thought he had a chance here.
This would really put him on the map.
This showed about Rocky Romero,
it takes a good man to beat him,
but it don't take him long.
So then Tony Chivani gets in the ring.
We established Tony's older than me, right?
even with his hair coloring is new,
but he's older than me.
He's wearing a fluorescent yellow tie
and fluorescent yellow tennis shoes to match.
And again, I know somebody out there's going to know,
Cornet was a real fashion plate.
As a manager, I was loud,
but as an announcer, what the fuck is this?
And he's literally eligible for Medicare.
And did you?
you pay attention to what Tony said when he
pitched to Kenny with
this interview, the opening statement
to Tony... I paid attention to all of them. He was like
a fucking neon sign. I couldn't look away.
Okay,
then I was going to try to
jot down what he said
and
it was as convoluted of a
preamble of who's fighting who
to see who the winner
is to fight who and win
that I've ever heard
if you went back and
they'd copyright us and slam us down if we went back and replayed it,
but it's 45 seconds of just gibberish by the time he got to the end of it.
Because Kenny's fighting the guy that's fighting the guy,
they're going to fight the guy over there,
and that Australia and the winner of that guy's going to,
a court stenographer could not have kept track of this
so they can't pitch to him with anything coherent,
but then he just, at least he's brief.
He was emoting breathlessly that he wants the world title and he'll fight anybody,
friend or foe.
And then here came Page.
And Chavani slinks to the corner like he's a kid in a timeout and just he won't even,
he's not even looking at him like he's paying attention.
He's just like looking off into the crowd or just like, is he on acid?
What is happening?
That's what it is.
He takes so long to say stuff.
And then everything he says doesn't make sense.
and then he just stands around
when he doesn't just hand the mic and leave.
He's like a drunk, Riser Bowden.
Just takes forever,
but Riser, there was a calm charm to him.
With Chivani, it's just,
there's like a fuck-off attitude.
Yeah, it's like, where am I and what is happening here?
So Page does the same promo as all.
He's growly and wordy,
and he's going to be the next champion.
And then Swerve comes out.
And Swerve says, well, you didn't beat me in the four way,
nobody's beat me so I'm going to be the world champion against anybody
and I've jotted down at least they're being brief and it
it makes sense if you if you're wanting to split the crowd amongst your top baby faces
if you're willing to overlook that then at least this makes sense that all these people want to
fight for the chance to be the champion but then Kenny says hi what did he
say, I think there's a little heat.
It's not scalding, but it's there.
No, I detect a little tension or whatever he said to it.
He and Swerve got pissy with each other.
And Kenny's like, I detect you might want to fight.
Oh, yeah.
And then here came Don, Don Fallis out to the stage.
I have something to say, and they boo him.
And he says that old Andre is going to beat Swerve tonight,
and then it's going to come for Ken.
and I've got something special for hangman Adam Page because my family runs the show.
And then Brian helped me some music started playing, but it wasn't, it wasn't Don's like,
music.
It was like somebody's music like it was going to come out because he said,
I got something for Page, but did we find out what he had for Page?
because the music that I didn't recognize started playing
and all the baby faces were standing in the ring
staring at him and then Kenny said, well, cut the music.
Whose music was it?
I think it may have been Omega's music again.
Like they're playing them off.
They're going back to the guy who won the match.
I think.
Okay.
Well, he said, cut the music.
And he said, Don, you said, what's going to happen to all of us?
But you should have worried about yourself.
And then he, my aunt Lola could have.
got out of the ring and run down the aisle a little bit quicker than Kenny did, but he jumped
down and, like, Callis was 50 feet away, and he just turned and ran in the entrance,
and Kenny ran after him, and that was it. I don't know.
Was it this promo where Don Callis's dentures fell out? Did you see that?
No, I didn't even see that part. What happened here?
Oh, let me find the video. Don Callis's teeth fell out.
Go on.
I'll be right back.
We find that.
All right.
Well, we'll try not to miss you.
But,
and anyway,
at that point,
I'm just thinking,
again,
MJF is a heel champion.
And you want all your top baby faces chasing him.
But you,
for some reason,
every other booker in a history of wrestling
from dusty roads on down,
had a lot of his baby faces chasing his heel champion
without having the baby faces get ahead at the expense of each other
and fight each other.
And for the longest time,
Tony and AEW was in a situation
where all their guys that meant anything really were heels
and the baby faces were just weak and ineffective and blah.
And now it seems like he's neutered all of his heels and, you know,
he doesn't have anybody but baby faces to get his other top baby faces over.
So I, it'd be wonderful if it was a variety of baby faces beating other secondary and
semi-final and almost top.
heels in order to jockey for position and maybe you have
the one baby face match where these two guys just have to settle something
and then it would stand out because it was different.
But now these guys are just trying to cut each other's nuts off every fucking day.
Having said that, did you find Don's teeth?
Yeah, I sent, check your email.
I see if you could play this video that I just sent and you'll see.
But, yeah, Omega ended it with one of his classic awful promos and, of course, swerve.
give him credit after I made fun of his gibberish promos last week. He actually was short,
concise, and to the point this time. That was the best part about all of this is everybody was
short. But okay, I'm going to click on this thing here now. And I'm clicking on another thing.
And, oh, wait, what? Oh, my God. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Okay.
It looks like you're watching the replay, I guess.
When he came out, it's actually it's not a denture.
I must be because I have a little pre-dentistry background as well as my pre-law and pre-med, Brian.
I don't know if you know this or not.
But it's a partial plate.
The dentures is all the teeth.
When he came out to the stage and he said,
I don't know if you know this, but the Don Callas family runs the show.
That's when he opened his mouth, the Don or Callis or whatever,
and the partial plate with, like, teeth on both sides came out.
And he stuck his hand back up there at his tongue, too.
And I think he stuck it back up in there,
but it almost fell out of his fucking mouth.
Oh, this show was Snake Bit.
What more could fucking happen?
That's why I was surprised when you didn't reference it,
because that was the funniest thing.
Here comes the heel
to confront the three baby faces
having their talk and his teeth fall out.
Well, if you weren't looking
and I wasn't studying his dental procedures,
you might have missed it,
but for just a second,
but oh, crap.
Well, but that was the opening segment.
And then through the show,
basically everybody wants to get
a position for a title match
with MJF and blah, blah,
and they're saying Samoa Joe is,
not medically cleared with a non-contact injury.
Does that mean someone wished him ill?
It's all mental.
What is a non-contact injury?
Yes.
I don't know.
That's his new gimmick, psychosomatic Samoa Joe.
Psycho.
No, they've already got the psycho killer.
That's right.
They could bring Joe back in a psycho-killer and psychosomatic.
all right moving on we can't spend too much time on this we've got anything else to do
dick the boozer versus ace austin was the next match and that took about 10 minutes and
booser hit him with a double arm dd t one two three so now five years into this run they're
kind of sort of having top guys go out and win matches to get over but then here came go ahead
Well, again, the philosophy of Tony
Khan is get guys on TV, have them
lose the top guys, it makes them bigger.
And last week, we saw those two guys against FTR
have a nice long competitive match before they lost.
Ace Austin.
Dennis had like a stooge name Ace Austin.
Didn't he?
I don't know if, I don't know.
It was Ace something, but I thought that was his name.
No, um,
Dennis is, uh, no.
I can't remember, but it was, that wasn't.
There was some guy.
I forget his name now.
But anyway, Ace Austin had a long competitive match with the best book guy in AEW over the last few years, you could say, in terms of who wins the most and is taking care of the most.
In Tony's eyes, that's making people.
Speedball and Kevin Knight debuted by getting their ass kicked and losing to someone, right?
But at the same point, Moxley just laughed off a lot of his offense, which was somewhat cringy at some points.
but I mean again
moxley is going to do what moxley does
and you can also tell when he's
when he's worried about hurting somebody
he does that double arm DDT a whole different way doesn't he
and then when he just he's going to get over and doesn't give a shit
it has many many purposes but
the point here's what I was going to say whether
ace Austin whatever he's got to
ace up his sleeve that's his entrance we don't we now know that he is a job guy because he
debuted and got beat so it doesn't matter what they do with him but the point is moxley now
is a baby face against and the death riders are with him they're helping him out they're you know
they're they're all together they're a group against the callus family correct that's what
they're trying to build here.
Yes.
Yes.
It's established again later in the show.
Yeah.
Okay.
But at the same point,
the death riders
were the heel team that we
never got any explanation for all
of that and what Moxley was trying to do
and they were trying to pour bleach down everybody
and blah, blah, blah.
But now he has started cutting
rah-rah promos so suddenly
their baby faces.
So,
the heels are members of the callous family,
but there's 18 of those.
So the point is when Moxley wins this match,
then here comes take a shit,
walking out to the ring with fucking purpose.
And he gets in the ring,
and they go face to face, him and Moxley,
and there's a lot of finger-pointing.
And I don't know why,
but I noticed that Okada does this also.
a lot of the Japanese guys do it.
When they'll be fingerpoint,
they won't be moving their lips.
They become mute.
They're not saying anything.
Have you noticed this?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that was the big thing that stood out by the Okada,
Takesha program leaning up to their match.
Yeah, because they were both doing it.
They'd both do it.
They'd walk up to each other, and it was almost like harpo marks and,
you know, in the mirror.
Yes, and Lucy, there you go.
But so the point is, take and moxley,
face-to-face, lots of finger-pointing.
you know, gesticulating going on, and then take just backs out and gets out of the ring and leaves.
And Mark Davis and I start to say Johnny Doyle, Jake Doyle jump in from behind and just hit Moxley with a couple big moves and lay him out.
And then they leave.
So then Moxley, again, was the guy who didn't sell anything and didn't get beat for ages.
and suddenly these two guys just drop him and he doesn't get up,
he doesn't go on a rampage, the other guys don't come out,
they just leave it.
And who exactly in the family,
which of the 13 members of the family are they going to be fighting?
And this is all over the place,
is what I'm trying to say to you.
Can you disagree with that?
I do not disagree in any way.
Would you like to move on to the TNT championship contest?
Brian.
I think that would be the thing to do.
Mark Briscoe versus El Clown.
So now they've got, did you,
and maybe I might be wrong,
but is it hologram or holograph?
Hologram, not holograph.
All right, well then tell Sockface, Excalibur,
because at the start of this old El Clone
has apparently injured holograph.
Did you hear him say that?
I did not even notice that, no.
And I was thinking, holograph, I don't want you, holograph.
But so that's how they set this L. Clown is injured a holograph,
who's a member of the conglomeration, so they're Mark Briscoe, the T&T champion, blah, blah, blah.
Mark always gets over with the live crap.
and this other guy is, I guess he's Tony's backup gimmick luchador,
no basics, a gymnast, at least it's not spitball,
but this match, he got a lot of heat for what actually looked like,
and I don't blame he he no-sold and popped up from a J-driller.
But in actuality, they were trying to tell the,
story that is briscoe gave it to him that he posted up and flipped out and didn't take it but the
announcers didn't know what to fuck and they didn't get that across and to most people
because it did look like that he just popped up and no sold a jade driller but that is not only
was not only jays finished but mark's finished and he wins the
the big matches with it and the people react to it,
whether this guy can nip up from a fucking attempted jade driller or not,
don't prostitute to move for this underneath clown
that won't never sell a goddamn ticket,
is the fucking point that should have been made
by any producer of this match.
So then L. Clown botched some fake flippy shit
that Mark had to sell and then hit a couple of big moves
and in Briscoe beat him with a schoolboy.
12 minutes.
They keep trying to get these little fucking pipsqueak
cheerleaders over
because they can do all this shit
that Tony's hyperactive mind
finds entertaining.
And it just gets in the way of
trying to get the talent over.
I'm sorry, Brian, your thoughts.
I actually thought this is the best match on the program.
I kind of liked it.
El Cologne does some interesting things that it looks like he's about to fall or botch, and he doesn't,
and that's his whole thing, because I guess he goes in reverse.
I don't know what his thing is, but I enjoyed this actually.
I actually liked this match.
What match was better on this show?
What match was better than what?
Than this match?
On this episode of Dynamite, what match was better?
Well, let's see.
Hold on here.
I'm looking at my goddamn notes here.
Well, that, well, that came to a bad end.
All right.
All right, they were the nicest guys in prison on this night.
How's that?
So anyway.
On this night, there was a new member of the prison gang.
But nevertheless, Briscoe did the promo.
Actually, he started to do a promo.
And the lights went out.
and the lights came back on in music.
And it was Tomaso Champa,
who have been making the news on the news sites lately
because his contract was expiring
and they were wondering what he was going to do
or if he was going to do anything or blah, blah, blah.
He got a nice pop and reaction from these people.
Because again, if it's an AEW crowd,
they're going to know more about who other people,
people are than just your average wrestling crowd.
So Champa got in the ring and they circled each other and they faced off and
he made motions that he's coming for the TNT title and then he kissed Mark Briscoe on
the cheek and left the ring.
And it's not as erotic as it sounds.
It's like the,
the Tomaso,
Cheb,
the kiss of death.
I mean,
this goes back to
stuff he wanted to do
and did do in Ring of Honor
15 years ago.
Because,
Tomaso,
and I've said this every time
that we've talked about him
for the past three or four or five years
or whatever on the WWE programs,
I love his work.
I think he's a real,
realistic personality.
You can believe his shit.
he's a beast of an athlete he trains like a demon his work is solid and gets over and he can be
serious if you let him and they were never going to with his age with his injury background
with just the competition over there in general they were never going to let him be
what a top guy or what he could be as is illustrated by the fact that he and gargano were
partners and they've used Gargano better than him after they split.
So he's perfect for AEW because he's only going to have to work once or twice a week if that.
He's still going to stay in great shape because he's motivated to do that.
And all of the stuff I've seen him do or want to do has been fairly fucking serious,
except for, again, you don't know when he was in that thing with Gargano and his wife and the girl and the whole nine.
That was all nonsense.
But just workwise, psycho killer, Champa, I'm interested in seeing what he might do.
However, then the realism sets in.
He's still in a land of silly booking and children, but because he's different,
He'll stand out here and at least we won't have to watch somebody else that just sucks it every way.
But I think he'll get a lot better chance to show what he can do, have some fun and make some money.
Tony got a little victory here, so he's probably paying him well.
You know, so he means he'll mean more here and he'll get a chance to do more of his shit here than he wouldn't.
over there, and it doesn't affect anybody's business either way.
It's not going to negatively affect the WWE.
And as we've seen before, no matter who comes in to AEW,
even people much higher in the pecking order than Tomaso,
it's not going to be any kind of a change in the positive direction.
But except for programming, match quality, maybe, whatever, a true professional,
but it's not going to be any difference in business.
You know, with that said, I think it's the right move for him.
I think he's a good pickup for AEW.
Him and Mark Briscoe, you know, sign me up to see that.
Yeah.
Before they beat him.
I'm looking forward to that.
If at least they'd start out with a regular fucking match
and work their way up from there instead of doing everything in the first 15 minutes,
I'm, you know, but yes, I would like to see that.
And another thing, because of the difference in roster size, an actual physical size between
WWE and AEW, as soon as he came out there and when he got in the ring, he looks bigger
because he's not in the land of giants anymore.
So I actually thought he looked better on AEW TV than he has on WWTV, even though he's
in great shape.
Yeah, Tomaso's in great shape, and he looks like he'd fucking beat your ass, but he's
really looked small in the WWE environment because of the size of everybody else.
And this way, he gets to pick on some people and be a big bully.
And he's the kind of guy.
So I'm in favor of that.
Unless Tony just starts beating him, he gives you a lot of fresh, I mean, either way, Tony
will do it, but it gives you fresh matchups.
Him and Kenny Omega, him and MJF, him and Adam Page, him and Moxley.
I mean, I like all those people, but at least it's something fresh.
so don't blow it with Tomaso I guess is my point but then we come to the nine o'clock hour
Brian is time for the MJF in ring promo and did you detect the difference between the roar
not only when Tomaso came out but when Kenny came out and they knew he was there
Tomaso was a surprise, but they got big roars and MJF came down.
They didn't react like they used to.
I'm thinking they know what they're about to see.
MJF is going to come out and do a wonderful soliloquy tearing everybody down.
But it's just saying somebody's probably going to interrupt him.
But did you detect?
the people, was it just Austin?
Or was it just because they were right after Champa's big entrance?
Or was it like, eh?
I mean, they react when he says shit.
But I'm afraid that they have just taken all the fucking bloom off his rows.
Well, also, he's not right now interacting with the top star.
And that's not to take anything away from Brody King,
but that's just not who he is right now,
the way he's been presented.
but they used to roar just when he came out
whether they were chanting for him or against him there was a lot more
engagement i don't know whether he's our scumbag or fuck you or whatever at it
anyway immediately he started to knock the town he started speaking for about 10 seconds
and here came brodie king and he got in the ring mjf has to back off and you know
like are we going to be professional here
in other words, are you going to stand there, just smirk at me while I fucking tear you down verbally for the next five minutes?
Because that's what happened.
That's exactly what happened.
He cuts a scathing.
He just obnoxious promo on Brody King and Brody King stood in the corner laughing while he was, you know, MJF was offered to hire him as a stooge.
And if I talk about how good MJF is, then I get all these.
People who will fire back on Twitter or whatever.
Oh, my God, Cornett will take up for MJF no matter what he does.
He just, he won't say anything bad about his boy.
When I talk about how great MJF is and how rotten he's being used
and how bad this position is, they don't get that point.
MJF is a one-of-a-kind verbal talent and also
is good enough at in-ring wrestling
athletically to have the best match on the card
because mentally and psychologically,
putting a match together,
he's in the upper percentile also.
But that means almost nothing
unless there is an environment and a roster
and a producer or group of producers
that you could put him in the middle of
to take advantage of all that.
Elsewise, you get what you've got here
is he's doing the same shit he's been doing
for five or six years
to diminishing returns
against less interesting people.
What'd you think of Brody King on the mic here?
MJF was channeling Rickles.
What'd you think of Brody King?
Well, I think he sounds more like Howard Brody
than Bruiser Brody.
He sounds like
He got a little bass in his voice at the end,
but I mean, for it to have to just stand there and smirk and then just say,
well, I got with Tony Kahn and next week,
I'm going to face you in an eliminator match.
And if I beat you, then I'll get a title shot in Australia.
So we're going to see the match before we are asked to pay to see the rematch.
and how does that work?
How does that?
MJF was telling him, I don't want to wrestle you.
Last week he said, until you beat someone,
you haven't beaten anyone yet.
So now his solution is, I'm going to beat you so I get a chance to beat you.
Yeah, that's what Tony agreed with too.
And it makes perfect sense.
I'm going to beat you to get a chance to beat you.
But then he's not, unless they're completely insane,
he's not going to beat MJF on television.
Because if they have a pay-per-view match,
nobody's going to goddamn buy that he's going to win the belt from him anyway.
MJF needs some wins in much the same way as Kenny needs wins.
So I would imagine that MJF will somehow cheat and lie and steal to prevail in this thing
and then get backed into a corner with someone,
whether it be Brody King or anybody else at the pay-per-view.
The paper view is Australia, right?
That's what they're talking about, the Grand Slam in Australia.
I don't think it's a pay-per-view.
I just think it's a dynamite.
Oh, good heavens.
Well, in that case, or even less reason
to fucking have Brody King go over.
So, but I still say...
They mentioned Buddy, though.
They mentioned Buddy in this problem.
Maybe Buddy will come back in Australia.
That's where he got hurt last year.
Well, but one way or another,
it'll be the best Brody King match
that we've seen because
it'll be MJF calling it
and MJF will have an actual
guy whose English is his first language
that he can call shit with.
So it'll be better than
MJF and fucking Bandito.
They can make it a tag match.
Bro Dito versus MJF and that giant guy
who got in the ring at CMLL in a Rio Mexico
and just stood there during the Bandito match.
Yeah, but put the Abraham Lincoln outfit on him.
and see how that's got the height. That's right.
You know, Brian, I think I've got the answer to how this,
this segment could have come off a little bit better,
how Brody King wouldn't have been just standing in the corner
and just having to listen to being eviscerated and browbeaten by MJF
and just have to smirk at the whole thing.
What if Brody King in the corner was listening to his Racon earbuds?
Then he'd have reason to smile and he could be bopping in the corner,
listening to all his favorite tunes or maybe checking up on the news
and he wouldn't have to just stand there and be
emasculated by MJF's verbal wizardry
maybe a little KC and a sunshine band in his ears. What do you think?
Perhaps that's what he was doing and that's why he wasn't bothered by MJF.
He was sitting there listening to something from Sacred Bones Records
or something from one of his favorite labels and not worrying about
the man cutting him down roast style in front of him.
Well, maybe he didn't have the right kind of Raycon earbuds in his ears, Brian,
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Well, back to dynamite.
Talking about blowing your ears off.
Okay.
Again, I'm cursed, apparently also.
FTR was going to have a match with Mark Davis and Jake Doyle.
And even though, again, they're all heel teams here.
So the people weren't really going to be just on the edge of their seats on this.
Because they're all heels.
so why do they care?
But I thought, okay, Davis,
I give him shit because he's got a big ass.
But I think he's actually trying to lose some.
And he can move and he's got that great pile driver.
And at least he's a full grown man.
And Doyle looks enough like him
that they're a pretty good tag team.
Yeah.
Coil's ass is smaller,
but he's still a big guy and he does some good looking shit.
They looked like a team when they came out.
It looked good.
I was like, you know what, I see it.
Yeah.
I see it.
And I'm thinking, okay, they're going to have a good match with FTR.
The question is, is FTR going to go too far and lose everybody?
Or are they going to have a really good tag match?
But let's see what Davis and Doyle got going.
And they started this thing out.
And I liked it.
The chops were solid.
The shoulder tackles were solid.
Cash did a dive on both the heels on the floor.
Lauren, they caught him and threw him like a lawn dart onto cash, and that was the break
spot.
And Davis and Dax spent time wailing on each other.
I mean, the chops, Dax's chest was bleeding, and it looked like somebody dinged him in the
eye.
And so this was a smash mouth offense, as J.R. used to say, right?
And I'm like, okay, these guys as a tag.
team now that the Hurt syndicate, I guess, is goddamn single.
You've got something.
They worked with.
They hard weighed Doyle somehow when he had some minor blood from his head.
And then Doyle was trying to superplex Dax and cash pulled Doyle down onto the apron and gave
him a DDT on the apron.
and I'm trying to describe this.
People can visualize it if they haven't seen it,
but imagine that Doyle was standing on the apron of the ring
with his right hand on the top rope,
facing Cash,
and Cash overhooked his head and dropped Doyle straight down to the apron with a DDT,
and Doyle never let go of the top rope with his right hand.
And when Cash came down, it jerked him at an angle that it hyper-extended his arm and tore his
bicep.
And this is not just an amateur diagnosis because he immediately afterwards said, I've just
torn my fucking bicep.
And he rolled off on the floor and that was the last we saw of him.
And they continued the match, even though it kind of, they hit the next movement.
they were going to do, and then it came to a halt
because nobody knew what to do because
the guys out on the floor.
So Dax called some kind of audible,
cash took a bump to the floor,
and Daxon Davis kept the match going
so that they could send Moxley and his group
down to ringside, and again, these finishes.
Davis ends up on the floor,
the referee gets distracted,
and Moxley hits Davis over the head
with the title belt and rolls him back in or whatever,
an FTR hit the Shatter Machine on him,
one, two, three.
So it took six guys to beat one,
and Moxley's group is supposed to be the baby faces,
and they're the ones that was six on one against the fucking one heel.
Help me.
Jake Doyle just showed up.
He looked really good.
Looked like a full-grown wrestler.
He's out.
just he's right away he's out and he's gone that's unfortunate stokely was a comedy figure in his
whole situation oh did did you see they forgot to go wheel stokely stokely was tried as best he could
and that wheelchair on those pads you can't move that fucking thing he'd had to have arms like lesner
and he's trying to get over there and then cash sees him and goes over and starts wheeling the
fucking but yeah again doyle if he doesn't have
have surgery on a torn bicep, it's
three or four months. If he
does have surgery, it's probably six months
or maybe a little more.
And no one knew
how to react. I mean, they got a little
reaction when Moxley showed up.
But, you know, there were points in the match where the fans
didn't know, because they
aren't like get a cheer for anyone for any reason
and they're not giving them any reason to cheer
for anyone, so they're just sitting there watching the match.
And then it fell apart.
and then
and the callus family has been in like every segment on this show
I was about to say the the
the two heels
Doyle and Davis
attacked Moxley earlier in the night
two on one
so now
moxley the baby face group waits
until one of the heels is injured
and there's two more baby faces on the other heel
and then he comes out that makes it six on one
and fucks the fucking
can heal so that the other heel team,
the baby faces fuck to heal so the other heel team could win the match.
What is their problem?
The death riders and the Calus family.
Like, what is the root of the problem?
I don't really know.
Not sure.
It's got from zero to 100 pretty quick.
I'm not sure what the problem is.
The bleach hadn't come out yet.
The bleach has not come out yet.
Other than the MJF segment,
the Callis family has been involved in every single
segment on this show.
Yes.
Well, because it's hard because everybody in the company is in a
Callis family.
And then we were ready for the main event.
And I wasn't because
Swerve versus Andrade.
So we'll basically
Calus had told
Swerve that Andre was going to beat him so that he
would go on and this march to the title
and just fuck y'all.
Right?
So they have.
have the match. It's an eight minute match in the show and then they go five minutes in the
overtime. Did you see the one spot? I'm like, Jesus, age Christ, they get out on the floor,
they get up on the barricade that's what, like six inches wide and they're standing gingerly on
the barricade, balancing each other so that Andrade can backdrop swerve on the barricade.
So it's both fake in that they're setting it up, obviously cooperating to set it up on purpose with each other.
And then when the guy takes the bump, there's no way to control everybody.
He could have just as well.
Remember what Alexander and Abushi did?
If there'd have been people underneath them, they would have fallen on them, right?
He took that backdrop.
There's a kid in the front row that this guy has put his,
hand in front of his arm in front of like oh wait a minute a foot an ass a knee something lands
on the people in the front row and there's a multi-million dollar lawsuit all to do a screwy
move that there's a high potential you might get hurt and it looks fake to set it up why are they
doing these things brian i don't know you know again it comes on the heels of we just saw what was
of Cody Rhodes, right, do a bump on the,
the barricade with Drew McIntyre the other day.
And also there was footage of Fatu got flung over on a
crew person and apologized in mid-bump.
Oh, I'm so sorry I hit you.
Oh, no, I did not see that, really?
Yeah, there were, yeah.
You pulled Alira?
Yes, yes.
I'm sorry.
He was still laying there, but you can see him out that I'm so sorry.
But anyway, the finish.
of this thing, Andrade hit Swerve with two big moves that looked like it killed him and got a two
count and then hit another big DDT move. It looked like it killed him. We got a two count.
And after Swerve has had these three things done to him in a row, he immediately got a jackknife
for a two count. And then Andre got a roll up for a two count. And then Swerb jumped up and did his
kicked to the head finish, but didn't cover him, pulled him right up.
But as he was pulling him up, Andre grabbed Aubrey, and she pulled away in a
stagy fashion to turn her back so that Andre could kick, swerve into balls, and
hit his finish, one, two, three.
And what the fuck?
So, Andre'd hit this guy with three things that should have left.
him stunned if nothing else and couldn't beat him.
Then they did a couple of roll-ups and Swerve did his kick to the head finish on the guy.
And five seconds later, the guy just spins around and kicks him into balls.
And hits his finish like there's nothing wrong.
So Swerve's head kick didn't stun him enough that he couldn't do that 10 seconds later.
The end.
And now Andrade gets.
a shot next week at, is it he gets Kenny Omega?
And then the winner of that gets something else?
And then the loser, which is all of us, gets to watch it.
Well, another exciting AEW Dynamite.
Just remember, better than TNA.
Whenever you get too down on yourself for watching this show,
better than TNAA, but that was dynamite.
Well, funny you might mention them
because we're going to take a little visit to TNA land here in a second
from 20 years ago.
We're going to hop into Wayback Machine.
I've found some things.
But before we do that, Brian,
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Well, I told you I was on medication
and part of the side effects
is also a little flagellance.
Well, before we get into, as I said,
the history lesson,
we've got a breaking news story that is happening.
It's coming out now as we're sitting here talking.
We're going to try to bring this to you
in a timely fashion as best we can.
But Roman Raines has been making some comments
here today in the media.
and it don't look like he's in favor of the current booking
is the first blush that I'm getting from this.
But do you have some details, Brian, over there in the newsroom?
Yeah, it's coming in.
Like you said, a lot of people started emailing us.
It's trending on Twitter right now.
Apparently, Roman Raines is on the Pat McAfee show,
which traditionally is a safe landing spot for WWE executives or talent,
because McAfee's not going to ask you anything you don't want to be asked.
He's not going to make you show your tax returns.
Right.
It's a friendly spot to go do an interview, and Roman Raines is there because he's promoting,
I presume, the Royal Rumble.
And let's go to this audio now because, yeah, it's everywhere.
But let's go to this.
We'll stop it along the way.
You know, I mean, there's always a mindset of that, you know,
but to be completely honest and transparent here, you know,
two years ago, it all changed around.
And, you know, what I've been doing out there hasn't exactly been the same of what I've done before.
And the way I look at it is I'm a generous tribal chief.
I give the people plenty of time.
These young talent, they say we hog all the TV time.
You know what I mean?
They'll complain about one thing.
And then I leave an opening.
I give them plenty of space to create, you know, whatever type of superstardom they want.
Get over, kids.
get over, you know what I mean?
And we're two years here now.
And we haven't advanced.
We haven't evolved.
You know what I mean?
We have great leadership with Nick Con.
God bless him, what a businessman.
He's a genius.
But we have to be able to keep up with that creatively.
And that's why people like me,
people who are striving to be the very best,
the greatest, the goats, the MJs.
I just can't sit around and see mediocrisy.
Not when I set it up for everyone.
to just slam at home.
I mean, we're on, let me stop it for a second.
Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Mediocracy.
Mediocracy.
But I like it, not when I just set it up for everybody to slam at home.
There's an element of, well, I'm the greatest thing it's ever been to this,
but there's also an underlying current of, the one thing you can't say is that Roman
Raines hogs the TV time and won't let anybody else get on because you,
what does he work six times a
fucking year? I mean, it's not like he's
an ever-present... Maybe there's a reason.
Yeah, well, exactly.
But, you know, so you can't
say that he's one of the guys that won't get out of
the way in, but when he says,
new guys, go, get over.
Well, they can only get over
in a lot of cases, it depends on if they're
put in a position
and a light to get over,
which comes into creatives.
But that's the thing that, you know,
when he says, well, creatively, we're just not keeping up.
And it was better two years ago when I was on top.
There's an element of all the top guys are always going to say that.
But there's also, there's also, you know, he's striking close to the nerve.
That's the thing.
It's not just a guy being braggadocious about his time on top.
What he's saying is reflecting what a lot of fans, what I've said, what you've said,
about trying to watch these shows
and the creative pace,
the pacing, nothing happens at times.
Yes.
Man, if he's saying it,
you know, if he's saying it, who else is saying it?
Well, and that's the thing is,
I think he thinks he can get away with saying it.
And he might not be particularly,
he might be in a point where he's prickly
with Triple H over,
because I'm assuming that
the plans that they had for him
have been changed around.
I heard with the recent injuries
and the title changes
and that they decided to put the thing on Drew.
What's Roman doing right now?
Who do you see him wrestling at WrestleMania right now?
That's why I said the rock better show up
and they better have that match if they're ever going to
because elsewise Roman Raines doesn't really have anything
major going on at WrestleMania.
Well, there's some more audio.
Let's go back to this.
The Pat McAfee Show, speaking with Roman Raines.
Netflix for crying.
Come on.
We got to, you gotta capitalize.
We got people here playing around
trying to figure it out.
And I got the formula.
I know how to cook it up.
You know what I mean?
So it's been a tough couple of years for me,
but at the same time,
when you come off such a hell of a run,
you got to kind of just pump the brakes for a second.
You know, I got five children at home.
I wear, you know, we all wear those two important hats being a husband and a father.
You got to be able to, you know, click.
And I've been on the road for a long time.
So I needed to be able to pull back a little bit.
But I, you know, I'm fully capable.
I'm only 40 years old.
With all the tech and all the information we have now, I feel like I'm 25 years old.
So I'm still good to go.
You know what I mean?
Well, there it is.
I'm glad modern medical science is in his corner.
You know, it's nice to say, I've done all this, I've been on the road for a long time,
so now I could stay home and just be a dad because that comes first, because, yeah, it does,
but most people don't have that luxury.
But it sounds like he's saying, you haven't seen to be as much because I don't like the creative.
I've been home with my family because there's no reason for me to come back.
So there's an element, obviously, it's a friendly show.
There's an element of him not breaking K-Fabe.
But then, again, if you're not breaking K-Fave and you're just, you know, I'm the best, I've done this and that, we have creative problems.
Like, why would you say that?
And then, but I've got the recipe.
So if you want to cook it back up, just come to me.
Wow.
We shall see.
But in the meantime, you know.
Do you think, do you think, um, Jain Johnson and Brian Gaworth sent him a bottle of champagne after.
they saw this clip they saw them roses well could this could this be the start of
roman and or the rock politicking to get something going the rock doesn't really have to
politic but a little ground swell of interest perhaps and who knows but they're paying to rock
all those tens of millions dollars a year uh what have you done for us in the last year besides
come in for the second year
and screw up our booking
and then we haven't seen you since.
And beyond that,
and again, it is a disruption.
But the question,
and good, Roman Raines is saying it,
it's not just fans.
We just had Triple H on the show,
the clip of him saying,
you know, be a fan, don't be a critic.
Yeah.
Because that's what you do.
When you go see a movie
and you feel like this movie sucks,
you don't come out and go,
I feel like I should get my money back.
You go, well, I didn't like it,
but it was a movie.
Like, that's just such a movie.
a stupid way to look at it. And here's Roman Reins. He's not just some fan. Here's Roman
Raines in the middle of a friendly interview with a friendly WWE friend and Pat McAfee saying that,
again, the exact quote, we haven't advanced, we haven't evolved, we have great leadership,
Nick Kahn, God bless him, but we have to keep up creatively. Keep up creatively. And again,
I think that's how he really feels.
That may be how some other people feel that can't say that.
And that's also probably designed to,
I don't like my WrestleMania creative,
and I think we could do better.
I think he's serving all those masters.
I think it's that and also two years.
So what he's really talking about is,
it's not as good for me as it was under Vince McMahon.
Yeah, from the height of the bloodline
when I was the star until now,
it's truthfully from the height of the bloodline,
it's not as good now as it was then,
and from the time he was a star
till now it's not as good for him as it was then.
And if you look at everything since he lost the belt,
you know, they set him up for a little thing with Solo
when he eventually came back. They did that.
And, you know, he's been around the other main event guys.
He's been there for the war games or whatever.
And then he disappeared.
again. So who knows what the hell's going on? Well, the thing also is, I mean, he's got to the point where he can get the part-time contract and all that stuff. And I think we talked about this one time before when he was the big dog of the group and had the wise man and all the top baby faces were jockey and try to get in and take him out and they had the group thing going on. But he was the focus and center of attention.
and the whole heel tribal chief thing just worked and clicked for him.
But when he comes out as a baby face, the music is too slow,
the walking to the same thing.
It doesn't create the same baby face fire and emotion and passion.
And again, just as he's a baby face that still has issues with the other baby face,
because or the other baby face is,
because he was a heel for so long he made enemies of these people.
Well, you can't just erase that overnight.
That would be phony.
But by the same token, then you've got, he's not a heel because the people cheer him
and he's a baby face because he's over as a star,
but he can't do most of the things or be in the position that got him over.
And he doesn't, he's kind of an island unto himself, no pun intended.
and he's needed to do something new and different
as a baby face and as a single and as a lone wolf
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It makes sense.
I don't know if it's...
I don't know how likely it is.
I mean, I hate to say it because Heyman is fine with the vision.
It works.
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I know it's kind of a minor thing.
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but it was the package.
And, like you said,
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It was a feeling.
Remember when they would come out there?
It would take 10 minutes to get to the ring,
but it was working.
And then finally, it was like,
yeah, this has taken a while.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I don't know what you do with him.
And he's best as a heel.
That's the other thing.
He is best as a heel.
Yeah.
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void were prohibited by sundown
right well
Jim it's not sundown yet here on this show
what else do you know
it's not well I don't just act on
what else do we got to we got for us today
here Jim well
entertain us
let me entertain you let me make you smile let me do a few tricks some old and then some new tricks
i'm very versatile you know brian one of the things i mentioned i was doing last week around the castle
was cleaning out drawers and going through sorting things trying to get a fresh start on the year
examine my projects things i have going on etc and in going through another stack of old paperwork i have
come across an even bigger stack of TNA paperwork agent reports and various communicates
that I had with the T&A folks back in the 2000s.
And when I read some of them here on a program a few months ago,
they were very popular with the audience.
And I thought that people might get a tickle out of these.
Also, these are a little different.
And I will explain how, but there's more of them.
hear that stack wow how many are there i i had well here's the thing this wasn't really agent
reports per se although they kind of were the same form but the ones that i had before remember
those were the ones that i was sent into terry taylor that i was typing up and emailing to the
office that was after jeff had been exiled and terry taylor's wanting all these agent reports and he's
all be truthful and give your real feelings.
And I brought those up, as I told you, because I had the email,
and I'd searched them up and reprinted them, right?
Well, these come from when I first joined the company, the first year,
when I did not have email.
Because you know this, I didn't get email until we put my website up in 2009.
We put the website up because I'd done the Middite Express.
book and that was the marketplace to sell it.
And when I got my first website set up, they came email too.
So I got email in March of 2009, if anybody's wondering.
Before then, I typed everything on my electric typewriter here and I either faxed it
or because I was going down there at one point so often, I would just maybe carry the
fucking thing with me.
but I have copies of my original typed
and as I said these are not reports per se
this started when I made the deal
I debuted on T&A and it was June of 06
because that was the slammerversory
a pay-per-view or whatever
but Jeff had asked me when we made the deal in May
said we'll watch the shows and let me know what you think
So this starts in May of 2006 with the first TNA TV shows that I watched.
And they were not meant to be circulated in the office.
This was Jeff asking me personally, write this down and give it to me and tell me what you think about my television show.
So that's where we're at with this.
Is that fairly well laid out, Brian, the premise here?
I think so.
So this is three years before the previous reports you talked about,
which were at the end of your TNA run.
This is...
Yes, this is the beginning.
The other side of it.
The other side.
Oh, and I got one thing.
It's out of order here.
But this is...
I found a one sheet from November of 2006.
Remember, I've said that when they did the pay-per-view,
I think it was in St. Louis with the electrified cage,
and Bubba Dudley was pissed off and screamed fuck into the camera.
guys had been going into business language wise for themselves right so this was from november 19th
2006 at the tapings they had a sheet for all the talent and we had to sign this and date it and
Terry Taylor had to sign it and then he gives us the copyback or whatever but it says in
consideration for my continued association with T&A entertainment I agree that the
TNA Talent Policies and Procedures Booklet dated May 23rd, 2006, shall be amended as follows
effective immediately. Number one, TNA will assess a $50 fine for each unauthorized use of the
following words during the shows or events listed in item four below. These words, Brian,
are ass and damn. Ass and damn cost you $50.
bucks apiece.
To be honest, besides the fact that most of the time, they're in an amusement park.
They're at Universal Studios, right?
There's kids in the audience.
The network didn't like the language and the office wanted to keep it rare to where
when you did let somebody cuss, it landed.
It meant something because everybody just didn't have Tourette's, right?
So all these things were going on.
but ass and damn unauthorized was $50 apiece. Notice unauthorized. T&A will assess a fine equal to 50% of the talent's pay-per-view pay.
Half of your pay per view pay for each use of the following words during the shows or events listed in item four below.
those words
fuck
shit and bitch
now bear in mind
this is a company
that just a month beforehand
hired Vince Rousseau
but it's good cost you have
your pay-off if you say bitch
what each time what if you say
like two bitches and a fuck
is that like
well two bitches and a fuck that means you owe them half
and then number
three talent remains subject to fines
and amounts to be determined by T&A for using
obscene gestures or obscene language
in addition to the words described above
during the shows
and item four it applies
to all impact shows,
pay-per-views, live events, TV tables.
They had to
and I don't know whatever became of this because
I don't know that anybody ever got fined and I remember
Rousseau would write the word bitch in the
fucking script. So
It's like the call is coming from in the house.
Who do you believe?
When you say he would write the word bitch,
you mean like, you tell her she's a bitch or you're a bitch.
Yes, yes, that's a, you know,
and hoes and bitches and skanks.
He loved that shit.
Anyway, but now we start chronologically.
And the thing is, I don't expect,
is there a way to watch the T&A television shows from 2006 anymore?
Do they have any service?
Is that out there anywhere?
I don't know for sure, actually,
because I never heard anyone talk about it.
I think they did have a service for a while
that gave you access to the old television shows,
but I have no idea.
Well, this was the show from May 18, 2006.
As I said, we made the deal,
and I've told it before,
but I'd been talking on and off to Dutch Mantell.
He'd wanted me to come since the previous summer.
When I'd left to WWE,
I still had the piece of OVW,
and I started doing stuff for Gabe Spolsky and Ring of Honor.
And I told Dutch, you know, I just, I was burnt out on wrestling and I wouldn't want to do that much.
And also, I think at one point, Rousseau was still there.
We started talking.
But then finally, a year later, you know, Dutch, we want you to be the wrestling czar, the commissioner, the authority figure, whatever.
Russo was gone.
okay, I'll do it.
And my original deal with Jeff was that I was going to be the commissioner
and I would probably make eight tapings a year,
eight trips to Florida,
and they would pre-tape stuff if they needed to,
if I wasn't there, whatever, and that's what it was going to be.
And with that, Jeff said, well, have you ever seen the show?
And I said, no.
He said, well, watch it, prep up on who the guys are and what's going on.
and write down your thoughts and tell me what you think of my television show.
Okay, now it's Jeff asking me to hand him something personally.
Again, there's no reason for me to be politically correct or business-like in a corporate
environment or whatever because I've known him since he was 12 years old.
And I've managed him, I've worked with him.
I'm going to tell him what my opinion is of his TV show.
That doesn't mean I think he's going to be mad at me, right?
Because we're in a wrestling business.
And I'd never seen it.
And again, let's remember Rousseau was not there at this point.
And I'm not going to read this whole goddamn thing because Samoa Joe Bumper,
well, these pieces are selling him great, you know, things like that.
But just, no, read it all.
Read it all.
Well, oh, God damn.
Okay.
In that case, this is going to be an ongoing multi-part segment.
Good.
But at the start of the May 18th, 2006 Impact Program,
and this was when they were still a one-hour show on Spike.
They did a sacrifice video,
and that's all I identified it by,
but it was one of Dave Sahadis' cool, cold opens with the voiceover.
And I said, this is great.
It makes T&A look cool.
It's great video work, et cetera.
Show open, beauty shot, T&A.
voiceover or TNA,
TNA, voiceover, good
setup. As a
to me too much pyro blew off
would know. Remember when they would just blow
a goddamn, you know,
every bit of pyrot they had
off on the empty stage at the start
of the show and then
have crowd shots and go to the announcers.
Give the guy the pyro.
That's why I've got the tinnitus, by the way,
in my squishy ear.
Christian entrance,
Christian Cage.
Walk into people bit is great.
They didn't overdo that back then.
And he was trying.
The crowd liked it, but he's dressed so fucking bland,
I'm not seeing a star.
These are not even flashier,
pricey street clothes.
Promo seemed to lack some passion,
but people liked it.
Monty Brown appears.
Remember him?
Yeah, you know what?
If you went back 20 years,
which actually is what we're doing right now.
Yes.
people thought he was going to be a star for like the next 10 years or so and WWE thought so and
it didn't happen but he was a he was one of the big stars of TNA when I first started checking
out TNA yes and well and it may have happened I don't know about in TNA but the
serengetti right what no but as I recall something something happened to a member of his family
and he ended up quitting the wrestling business to,
and I'm willing to be corrected,
if I'm remembering this wrong,
but he quit to business to get a job or to do something
where he didn't have to travel because he had to take care
of some children in the family or somebody in a family.
Or elsewise, he may have, you know,
he may have made it eventually.
But I said,
Monty Brown appears looks,
great, delivery a little stagey.
And then I just wrote other talent appear because it's one of those deals where
people started coming out.
And then Larry Zabisco was the authority figure at that point.
And Jeff Jared comes out and Steiner comes out.
And then Sting drops out of the ceiling, right?
So there was all these people converging at once.
And so I said, other talent appear told me who they were a little rushed,
but you're trying to hit the audience with stars.
Announcers could have been more credibly surprised.
By the time Jeff and Steiner cut the promo
and Sting dropped in out of the ceiling,
you had all the star power in the ring,
but Zabisco gets the best line of the night.
For now that I have your undivided attention,
after all the helicopters have flown these people in.
It's just chaos and then Zabiscoe,
well, now that I've got your attention.
And Larry had to do the complicated promo,
whereas the authority figure at that point
he was laying out all this stuff.
And I said Larry's announcement
was pretty complicated and some of the guys
in the promo needed more bass in their voice.
And then the Samoa Joe bumper,
these pieces sell him to me great.
I knew Joe because I was working
at the same time at Ring of Honor,
which we'll get into that
at some time in this series.
AJ Stiles, Samoa Joe, Christopher
Daniels,
I think, is it Bobby Rood?
Possibly.
A lot of those guys were working for Ring of Honor at the same time they were working for T&A.
And they were coexisting and I was doing the same.
So I knew some of these guys to begin with, but then that'll hit a bump in the road later on.
Anyway, segment two, Team Canada entrance.
This team needs one ass kicker for credibility.
Team USA entrance.
USA is doomed.
These guys are puny.
And remember it was because the creative team at this time was not just Jeff,
Jared and Dutch Mantel,
but it's Scott DeMore and Lord,
I think Jeremy Borash was on it.
And DeMore was the manager of Team Canada.
It was Petey Williams and other people.
And it was kind of like some of the X Division guys.
it was a little confusing.
But they had a match P.D. Williams
against Chris Saban.
And this was when nobody but P.D. Williams was doing a Canadian destroyer, so that was kind of his thing.
But I wrote about the match.
This is souped up Billy Robinson versus Tony Charles, but with no stiff old British bastards.
Great athletically, but no emotion.
I don't know anything about either one of them except their home country
because they're too busy tumbling to show me their personality.
These kids can be good if they slow down and act a little pissed off.
Does that sound familiar, Brian?
Well, you're consistent, if anything.
So then the segment three was part two of the match.
Part two picked up nice finish.
Kevin Nash hits the ring and gets over better than anybody on the show.
All the other guys became inconsequential of midgets.
As long as it's okay to bury these little ex guys,
Nash will get over with this,
but nobody else will.
Remember when that for months,
all that Nash was doing was interacting
with the X division guys,
Shelley and Sabin and Petey and all those guys
and Jay Lethal and said whole group.
And he was making top money,
but he was just advising them
and cutting promos with them
and doing segments with them
and wrestling rarely, if at all.
And I'm like, well,
of what, well, he wants to get the X-Division guys over.
What?
He's getting himself over.
Which, I mean, at least somebody knew how to get their self over.
But anyway, let's see, a question.
Why does Borash dress like he just got fired from a Vegas lounge act?
And what I said, Jeremy Borash, I like Jeremy Borash.
We got along great once I got to know him, and he's a very intelligent guy.
but the problem was that Borash always,
he wanted to be in the television business instead of the wrestling business.
Or the television business was more important to him than the wrestling business.
And that's, and he worked his ass off behind the scenes and producing stuff.
But as later on in the year, when Schittstein would show his ugly face again,
Boresh was up for any preposterous comedy sketch
or any just any preposterosity
because it was all about TV and entertainment
that's where he was looking
and so great guy and we never argued or anything
but I think he just had more
more TV gaga than wrestling gaga to it
nevertheless
and he's now currently a part of
WWE's creative committee enterprise, whatever it is, right?
He's a part of it now.
Well, how come he's not on unreal?
Maybe they said, that suit is a step too far.
Michael Hayes is in a way with it.
You can't.
That suit's way too unreal for us.
Let's see, segment four.
Steiner entrance, great intensity from Scott snatches Don West and cuts promo,
Samoa Joe out for confrontation.
Great.
I buy both of these guys as badasses and want to see more.
And then Samoa Joe versus Chase Stevens,
announcers even after being roughed up ignored this match too much.
Joe went into his hold and they missed it till after the tap
because they were still registering getting jerked around.
And then Andy Douglas run in.
Why did Joe even take one step back from this guy?
Oh, he was one of the naturals.
Yeah, he was the partner.
I was going to say, I don't remember who that is, Andy Douglas.
Chase Stevens and Andy Douglas were a team.
I remember the naturals.
I forgot that name, yeah.
Apparently, I guess Andy's gone.
Anyway, segment five, team 3D promo.
The Bickering Brother Bit is good.
Bubba seemed to be reciting from memory some.
Last piece of bickering may be too much.
Borash may be brash.
Borash made too much
Ha-ha face at close
3D maybe should try
or 3D maybe try
too much comedy
in these spots
because they were even then trying to be
ha ha there's
10,000 stand-up comics out of work
and they're telling jokes
well you know if you really think about it
from the beginning of the Dudley boys
that's the way Paul Heyman used them
they were serious and
eventually when Bubba Ray Dudley
and Devon turned heel
you know they would really get the crowd going
and everything, but the little interstitial clips that they would put into the show were
a little comedy bits, where Bubba was, you know, first he was stuttering and then he would dance
and there were other members of the family. They've been doing comedy since the beginning of the
team. Well, they never got good at it. Anyway, then we had a King of the Mountain match
between Abyss and Rhino. And I guess the King of the Mountain match, I guess the King of the Mountain match,
guess is a no DQ match.
I was just writing this, seeing it
for the first time.
But I said, I'm a fan of both of these guys,
but to me, this match did nothing for either one
of them. Abyss sells punches in the corner
while holding the ropes. You know what I'm
saying? He's backed in the corner. He's got
his hand on either one of the top ropes. A guy's
just wailing on him in his face. He doesn't let
go of the ropes.
That was a Vince McMahon pet
peeve on the chokes or the punches in the corner.
And then
Rino throws way too many.
punches. Think about this. These guys are both big and supposed to be physically dominant and
not just sell like junior heavyweights. If a guy is, if Rhino backs him in a corner and punches
him 10 times, even if he's selling it with his head, if he doesn't let go of the ropes and
he doesn't go down to a knee, how hard can Rhino punch? It's not flattering. So anyway,
Rhino throws way too many punches.
The fans died too quick after the jumpstart and stayed there.
To break after a foot to the face was flat as well.
Segment 6, match part two.
This match badly needed a manager or something.
Yes, we ended up with two guys, two big guys,
who shouldn't sell trying to register too much.
Should have slowed down, thrown fewer blows, and sold smarter.
Rhino made a half-hearted comeback out of nowhere.
Run in out of nowhere by Rude and DeMore.
Where was the DQ when DeMore ended up in the ring?
This buried the referee.
Was this a no-D-Q match?
If so, why?
Rhino took Abyss's finish for the one, two, three, okay.
But over a minute later, he's still out, and D'More is spitting on him.
These heels needed to give him more to sell to get this much heat,
and whether these heels should get the,
that much heat on Rhino is debatable.
The end of the show.
What was the date of the show?
May 18th, 2006.
And then, I'm sorry.
So you typed this up after the fact.
Yes, when I watched it.
And then how did you deliver this to Jeff?
Well, I think this was probably one of the faxes because I wasn't there.
I didn't start until June, so I didn't wait a month to give it to him.
Although this is, well, this is all weekly stuff.
So I probably faxed it.
I would say.
Remember those?
I do.
Remember the paper?
Yeah, that was a...
Actually, the new facts,
the last facts I had,
faxed on regular paper.
The facts I had in Smoky Mountain
faxed on that roll of paper shit
and then all the ink fades off.
You can barely read your shit anymore.
Anyway, May 25th is the next show.
If you want me to keep going here,
I just want to give you a little more idea of this
because I got into a little more detail here.
Keep going.
Segment one, May 25th.
25th, 2006.
Sinshi, who was low-key,
versus Shark Boy versus Jay Lethal versus Alex Shelley.
In a four-way match,
they were doing it even then, folks,
but they weren't as worn out as they are now by any means.
But anyway, here's what I said.
Good use of these guys is you can't tell how small they are.
Shark Boy is a good kid, but that gimmick is still silly for me.
announcers never explained the rules of the match they tag but then they don't they jump in right in front of the ref etc these guys work didn't tell me who the baby faces or the heels are
sinchet works heelish but people cheer him he fights with shelly who is clearly a heel the stacked up double superplex power bomb thing was so staged it was ludicrous and sin she's finish looks good but dangerous
a paragraph tumbling, then Nash comes out, gives a half-ass effort, and gets over.
Shelly looks like he's in eighth grade next to Nash.
And then we go backstage with the King of the Mountain update,
and Borash is very distracting with all of that clothing he's wearing.
That was Seg 1.
Any thoughts?
No.
I'm consistent.
Because if it doesn't make sense 20 years ago, it doesn't make sense today.
Things that don't make sense don't start.
making sense.
Seg 2 was like a
King of the Mountain video and rules.
Stipulations of match a little confusing, but this helped.
Diamonds entrance.
These guys have a good.
Diamonds in the rough is what it was.
They had a team named Diamonds in the Rough.
Whoever they may have been.
Who were they?
I don't remember.
But I just read.
I said Diamonds ITR and I'm like diamonds inside the ropes,
but no, Diamond's in the Ruff.
They wrestled Stiles and Daniels.
And I said this was just a rush two-minute match to set up the finish.
There was no time to set up much.
And America's Most Wanted run in with a Billy Club was an awkward shot by Harris.
That's when Storm and Harris were teamed up as America's most wanted.
All right.
Well, Diamonds in the Ruff were led by Simon Diamond, which was Lance Diamond.
and it also consists of Triton,
Elyx Skipper, and David Young.
Yeah, boy, those three had all kinds of things in common with each other.
Anyhow, segment three,
they did an on-camera with Mike Teney and Don West.
This was before I'd met Don West
and hadn't seen Mike Teney in probably ages and eons,
but these guys need to sink up their wardrobes.
Mike is in a tux.
Don looks like a used car dealer,
Borash.
Certainly there's a men's clothing dealer in Orlando
that will do a trade to dress these guys
like network TV sportscasters,
parenthetically, borash especially.
I thought, and still maintain,
that at this point in the modern television era,
that the announcers on the wrestling program
should be dressed not only in a look that fit them,
but also like the other major sports announcers
in football, basketball, baseball, whether network
or regional syndicated sports networks,
what do they look like?
That's what you need to look like.
When you've got a guy in a tuxedo like the old days,
another guy that's just there but dressed more casually.
And then again, Borash looks like he's,
fucking the piano man in the lounge
make everybody look like they're on the same fucking team
and this is a professional broadcast.
So nothing ever changes with me,
but that's why I was wearing matching suits
and navy blues and grays
because I wasn't a personality that needed to be
exposed in a flamboyant flashy fashion at that point.
I was an authority figure, same as OVW television announcer or whatever.
I think one year at Derby time, I wore the yellow sport coat with some black slacks
and thought I looked very bachwinklish and Rousseau buried me behind my back.
Anyhow, the next segment in or the next thing in segment three,
remember the James gang.
It was Road Dogg, Jesse James and Billy Gunn.
They were calling them the James gang.
then. And they came out because they were working a program with Team 3D, Bub and Devon.
So they came out as the baby faces dressed as Team 3D to do the parody on them.
And my description was, this has been done to death. The announcers were laughing along with it too
much. It seemed forced. Brian is a great promo, but this was only entertaining to
smart fans, the live audience, and the boys, the live, because the live audience was smart
fans at this point in Orlando at the free admission at the soundstage. All they did was
material on fucking ECW and Philadelphia. And the smart fans had to be smart fans to know what
the fuck they were talking about. And that's why I said the boys and the smart fans, the casual
fan didn't give a shit that they were slandering
Philadelphia because they didn't know why.
And it got a lot better
when Brian got serious, because
then he dropped the facade and he got to cut a
serious promo on it.
But again, they were trying
to micro narrow cast
to the limited amount of people
that would understand
what they were referring to from
at that point, almost
10 years earlier.
Was this before or after Rousseau made them
the V-Kin Mafia, V.Kin.
This is before.
This is before.
No, he ain't got.
I'm already picking it apart and he ain't got there yet.
So,
Raven did a VTR promo quick and okay,
but Jesus,
he looks 100 years old.
What happened?
I think that was when he actually,
he had white hair,
or he was in a white outfit or he had gray hair.
Something happened and he went with the white.
I don't know.
Um, Seg 4, Andy Douglas versus Bobby Rude.
What the fuck is with the referee's pants?
That was Slick Johnson was wearing shorts.
Remember when that slick Johnson wearing shorts?
Yeah.
Both these guys looked good and had a nice athletic match with the finish,
heat after, Chase Stevens hit in the ring, Team Canada.
Byrano saved both baby faces look pretty impotent.
Rhino's promo and announced handicap match was timed great and got over great.
Shane Douglas out to look at the naturals was a bit anti-climactic here.
I think they were going to have Shane take the naturals under his wing.
In the back, Jeremy Borash with Ron Killings for a promo.
I wrote R. Jones Lives.
Oh, that's not fair.
Well, Ron Killings 20 years ago, he was a little green.
Anyway, segment five, Christian Cage, enter to an ounce desk.
A star does not dress this way.
He's got a $10,000 belt and he's wearing a $20 t-shirt.
This one, I believe he was the NWA champion, I think.
Then Monty Brown entrance, God, I hope this guy can work.
Ron Killings entrance.
King of the Mountain match.
This is the qualifier.
for the big king of the mountain multi-man match they were going to have.
Monty Brown versus Ron Killings.
Obviously, these guys have spent more time in the gym than the ring,
but they worked hard.
Went to break abruptly.
Match part two, Christians forte does not seem to be color commentary.
Okay, match, schoolboy finish, got out of it.
So I'm just giving some, they're going to get detailed as they go along.
Actually, this third show is a little more detailed yet,
but I was getting in my groove.
But I'm surprised to hear what you're saying about Christian,
because I always kind of felt that way,
and I always felt like he was one of those guys that people,
like you never felt any of that negative.
I was always like, oh, he's a star, he's Christian,
he's great in the ring, but I agree with everything you're saying back then.
Well, I saw him also at his very first fucking tryout match,
and he wasn't a star then,
so it's not like I just assumed he's always been a star,
but at the same point,
he can work
and as he's proven in modern times
he can talk he got it down if he wants to
but point is here it was a combination of
it I don't think the
they had given him a look or a direction
and it just it wasn't
he needed to
blossom a little better because it's 20 years ago
he got a little flashier as we went along
Anyway, one more show here on this one.
The TNA impact for June 1st, 2006.
Jeff Jarrett promo was a good hot show opener.
Scott Steiner entrance attacked Don West and went to ring.
To me, this was hot and exciting,
but going too far to attack West without discipline by TNA.
You're muscling around the announcers.
Sting and Raven hit, good four-way action, good impact segment.
Why does Raven look like the old man of the sea?
What the fuck did he done to himself then?
I'm trying to remember.
So then we have the open and the beauty shots.
Nice look.
America's Most Wanted with Gail Kim entrance.
These three look great together.
That was Storm, James Storm, Chris Harris, and Gail Kim.
Natural's entrance, nice looking baby face team.
naturals versus AMW
fast start good team moves
I know announcers have to tell stories
but they were off this match too much
because I wanted to know more about the guys in the ring
as individuals
baby faces have good fire but rush to come back
Daniels and styles steal the billy club
the baby face refuses it
and the heels go over
why did this dumbass
turned down a shot at a weapon that was about to be used
against him.
This makes a putts instead of a face.
They're still doing this shit 20 years later, aren't they?
Yeah, totally.
Douglas walks off disgusted, or watches disgusted,
as heels murder faces.
If I was Shane, I'd walk off too.
That's why they were telling how these guys obviously need guidance because they're
fucking idiots.
So Shane was going to help them and possibly get them booked on the night shift at Target
or whatever.
So then
For Ash with Alex Shelley
This is before I'd ever met Jeremy
So I was just his wardrobe alone
Was getting under my skin
Shelly is a good promo
But the nerd announcer
Being Bigger than him kills me
Can we get some of these guys
Phone Books to stand on?
It would make a big difference
Nash came in to make Shelley his little buddy
So then in segment three
We got Nash
with Shelley in his core
or Nash with Shelley entrance
that says Shelley's in the match
but I put Nash with Shelley entrance
because that's the way it looked
Nash is stealing all the fucking oxygen
right?
Shelley versus Jay Lethal
and again
I've always been a big Jay Lethal fan
I said Nash is dressed like a seven foot pro golfer
because that's a thing he just getting a car
and drive over from his house like fucking
45 minutes.
And he'd just be dressed in leisure wear.
Don West gives a good explanation of the
ex-division philosophy.
Lethal is great for his age.
After the heat and the Sabin's
save, Sabin's promo was too cute.
He needed more bass in his voice.
And Nash acted more scared of a bad cold.
Samoa Joe VTR personality pieces like this
really sell him, treat him like a star.
He was on a wonderful trajectory until shitstain got there.
All right.
Now, our weekly check-in on the Team 3D and James Gang fucking angle.
Seg 4, Borash with Team 3D seemed a little scripted.
Bubba using the word parody seems incongruous.
Too funny for ass kickers and they're pissed about a bingo hall but can't say the letters
ECW so it's just confusing.
The mother slash horror line
was way too awkward. I don't even remember
what that was.
The mother horror line
was way too awkward. This whole
program strikes me as two teams who are
pissed at each other for reasons I don't get
or buy, trying to be funnier than the other with one
trying to put a bankrupt promotion over
and the other's mad because they used
to be in the WWF.
These two teams are good.
but I would re-rack their whole issue and start over.
Wow.
You think I was being too critical, but...
No, I think you were laying it out the way it was.
This is before I started the job.
This got you the job.
It is it?
No, he gave me the job, then I did this, and then I started.
But nevertheless, um,
we were in the office with Zabisco, Stiles, and Daniels.
Good match set up, and Slick Johnson in with the Stoge report was good.
now I buy slick shorts because now I understood they were,
they were selling slick as the goddamn office suck up and stooge
and a slimy character that needed to stand out as a referee.
So then once that I was in on it, I fucking got it.
Anyway, Seg 5, Samoa Joe DVD spot.
This is great because even though it's a commercial,
it sells me on the talent.
Christian comments and King of the Mountain highlights,
effective.
Jarrett with
Gayle Kim enters into
crowd to find Raven.
Raven jumps into brawl.
Good action.
Jarrett versus Raven.
Is Raven now an albino?
This was great action,
but announcers are not telling me
why there is no DQ for chairs,
etc.
Raven elbow through the table.
Holy shit.
break spot. This is before you've had a table break in every fucking segment. Also,
Seg 2, match part 2, concession stand brawl. That's where they went outside and
fought in the concession area. Holy Tupelo. Crowd hot, great stuff. There needed to be a stipulation
to explain how this match could still be going on. Good finish, what a guitar shot Larry took,
Zubisco. And, uh,
So they had a nice, nice little fucking fight there.
A nice one hour show.
Boom.
You want me to go for the last one here real quick, the June 8th program.
This is the last time until I get there live.
All right.
So this is the last, I guess, was this one taping or two tapings you covered?
Do you know?
Well, this, it was four shows, whatever the fuck they did in the four shows,
however they did it.
Because as I said, I wasn't there yet, right?
That I didn't start until.
Right, but were they taping every two weeks or every month?
Well, sometimes one and sometimes the other.
Because I'm trying to think back, and I may have to go get more of my books,
but when I first started, they were only doing the one-hour show,
so therefore they could do three hours of television in the same night.
And then they would do a pay-per-view and a taping,
and then they'd be off and they'd come back three weeks later,
maybe do two TVs, come back two weeks later with a paper.
review and you see where I'm going. Or sometimes they do two days of taping, do two shows
each night and have four done. But my original deal with God damn Jeff was I'll do eight
trips to Orlando a year and it morphed into like, I think, 23. So on average, they were doing
something twice a month. Once the show became two hours, they couldn't tape more than one
in a single taping.
So they had to do a separate day of TV for each TV show.
You see where I'm going with this.
Yeah.
Anyhow, so this was the show on June 8th,
and the next report I have is the Ampact.
The impact from June 22nd that they were recapping Slammiversary,
and that's where I debuted.
So I'm missing one in here, but nevertheless.
June 8th, VTR interviews with Sting, Jeff, Jarrett, and Steiner.
Emotional, great setup for match for the King of the Mountain.
Steiner entrance would have loved to see him burst right into the arena as the main pyro was fading.
We lost some energy going backstage after the pyro and then before his entrance.
Scott's a great looking heel.
The Sting entrance, backstage shot didn't look as bad,
but I just don't know that I like the unfinished backstage look.
Remember when they had the big arena, the impact zone,
and they would go in the back,
and it looked like they were under the bleachers at the high school gym?
And I'm like, because it's a soundstage.
Everything else is unfinished outside the arena.
Or outside the main shot of the arena,
the backstage area is bare fucking walls and goddamn studs.
So anyway,
Sting versus Steiner.
Good brawl around and about.
This had the star feel to it,
went to break right on the nut shot and lost the impact of that.
But in part two of the match,
these guys have obviously slown down from their athletic peaks,
but they know how to work and have a good match that you can follow.
I'd have loved to have seen Sting a hot dog more on his comeback.
He can get away with it.
Gail Kim and Jeff run-ins, the false finish,
the second referee in.
The kickout before the three count was off somehow
and people didn't get it or it would have been a bigger pop.
The rest of the finish came off great
and Sting advanced to a big pop.
Jeff and Steiner got heat.
Killings made the save, Abyss in for more heat.
Christian with the big save.
I love it, the staggered run-ins.
Predictable, but it all makes sense to get the pay-per-view.
Plug.
Steiner stole the show.
Not in a step.
Steiner co-ops the show.
He steals the show and will not leave because Samoa Joe is next and he's mad at Samoa Joe.
So they go to the break with that.
I want to see what happens when Joe comes out.
And in the next segment, Samoa Joe made his entrance and had a confrontation with Steiner.
People were hot.
They had a big schmaws.
They had a pull apart.
You got two big ass, badass, badass guys.
This deal was over.
And then Shelley had one of his little film.
that he'd make with his camera that would plug Nash's
wrestling debut on TV the following week.
So all those guys were just basically his minions
to get over and look even taller.
Segment four was the back in the office, Zabisco
with Slick Johnson Stoge Report.
And then Sanjay Dutt versus Jarrell Clark.
And that match was a backdrop for Conan
and the announcers to tell the story of L.A.X and their angle. And I said, LAX, of course,
was Latin American Exchange. It was homicide and Hernandez, remember? And I said,
were they with Conan? Did they have Conan too at that time? Yes, Conan was, yeah,
Conan was the manager, the manager slash, you know, handler slash coach, whatever. And he was
having health issues at that time. So sometimes he was doing the wheelchair gimmick. But I said,
I said, why do they keep saying it's just like immigration reform?
I know that.
That's the point.
But when they keep saying it, it reminds people that they're trying to hop on to a hot issue
rather than just letting it speak for itself.
See what I'm saying here.
And, you know, it seemed a little wordy for them to be the street thuggishness, but it
nevertheless.
And then Seg 5, just some promo.
that I didn't say much about.
And then a six-man tag was closing the show
with Team Canada versus Chris Sabin and the James gang.
And I said a match started at a good pace.
It seemed the people were deflated after such a hot show
because this was a long night of taping, apparently.
Billy Gunn did some nice shit here.
Then part two, the match seemed to drag,
even though everybody was moving.
Sabin and Rood picked it up, good comeback ball, the baby faces.
The rhino run in got the people up and good finish.
And I said, oh, Christy Hemmy, she was still there then.
I said, she sure has energy.
She delivered the message to Don West to announce that Samoa Joe versus Scott
Steiner would be happening.
And that got a big pop.
And that was a great way to finish the show.
this is my favorite show so far.
But those are the first four I'd ever seen.
I didn't really know who was doing what or what was going on.
And Jeff asked me to give some feedback.
So there was obviously some positive things in there.
And there was a few negative things,
but it wasn't like anything that I was going to tear my hair out of my head about, right?
Or anything that couldn't, one would think,
be addressed or tweaked or whatever.
and everybody seemed to be on the same page about things.
And this is why I was initially hopeful at this new little venture that I'd gotten into.
And that would last June, July and August.
And then we got the bad news about the new arrival.
And then my agent reports, I didn't do anything for September and October because I think
that may have been now that I look back on it when I was convinced I had tried to quit and was
convinced I was still going to quit.
And then I started doing them again here by these dates with the two-hour primetime debut on Spike,
which as I've mentioned before, is after Jeff had me come down and took me to sushi in Florida
and said, we need more producers and agents.
And you could help the show in that way also if you would come down.
every time and I got more money for that but also it was to in hindsight as I can see try to have me
there to counteract the influence of our friend Mr. Russo who would soon darken our doorstep.
So that's kind of where we are right now but I've still got June, July and August to go and then
we get into November and December and the report starts.
getting much more detailed and much more assertive until finally I found the letter that I wrote
to Jeff about our friend Vince at the end of the year when I believe I had been telling Dutch
now that I think about it in reflection that I really don't want to make any more of these
fucking trips anyway again and he said why don't you put everything you want to say about this guy
down and in writing and give it to Jeff and let him mull it over. And I did. And we'll get to that
in chronological order. I don't remember who brought Russo back? Was it Jeff or was it Dixie?
Well, see, that's why I was mad because when Dutch first called me up and told me about it,
he said, well, we made changes in the creative team and we fired, we dropped, didn't fire him
from the whole company, but we dropped DeMore and Borash and they had a few other young
guys, indie-minded guys, guys that I didn't see how would mesh well with Jeff and Dutch.
And I said, well, that's a good move to just concentrate on YouTube.
And he said, but we hired Rousseau.
And that's when my brain exploded and I started trying to quit.
But with what we know now, it was obviously Dixie.
But I was still under the assumption because I was just assuming I'm working for Jeff Jarrett.
Jeff Jarrett's a boss in my eyes.
This thing wouldn't be here if it hadn't been for Jeff Jared.
I will let Jeff Jarrett tell me what to do.
I'm not in any way working for Dixie fucking Carter.
She's the investor.
But so I didn't at that point think that Dixie, as the investor,
would do something stupid like tell the goddamn head of the company,
Jeff Jarrett, you got to hire this fucking idiot.
it back, even though we fired him already.
So I was convinced that Jeff was on board with it and spent the next several months trying
to get Dutch to tell me why, why?
What is he seeing this fucking guy?
But anyway, the letter was at the end of the year, and then I've got these things through
and then they get a little shorter, and then I've got them through March.
And I think that this may have been when I just said, well, fuck it, I'm tired of typing.
Because nothing is changing.
Well, more in the future, something to look forward to, your TNA reports from 2006.
Jim, before we wrap things up, some breaking news.
And they still had bigger ratings than they do now on AMC with their big production,
even though it was just a little mom-and-pop shop then.
Jim, some breaking news.
Delinquent daughter, yes, breaking news.
Breaking news before we wrap things up.
Yes.
A message has gone out.
I don't know if this is from Twitter or Instagram.
from Ava,
WWE, the general manager of
NXT, the daughter of the rock.
Uh-oh.
This past Tuesday
was my last appearance
on NXT
and subsequently
WWE.
Ha-ho!
Thank you to all who have cheered,
watched, and supported me
throughout my journey.
While my decision to not renew
my contract was very difficult,
it's also a new turning
point in my life.
It has been an honor and a privilege to be Ava.
My decision not to renew my contract.
Uh, yeah.
Who did that?
Who did that at the beginning of, uh, of A.W?
What was her name?
A big swall.
Remember it was like,
Big Swole, yeah.
We both decided it would be best for me to leave.
What is this saying?
We have both sat down and decided.
that it's like when Tony Atlas sent me a letter when he stood me up on coming to
starting Smoky Mountain.
My wife and I both sat down and looked at our expanses.
And we decided I would not be able to come to Tennessee at this time.
He was jobless and sleeping on a park bench.
I didn't offer him enough money,
but it had nothing to do with the sexy blonde teenager
that was going to be his manager on the road away from his wife.
But go ahead.
Brian, what were you going to say?
You know, what I was going to say is we always talked about
when will the day come where we see the Dwayne Johnson
Triple H feud play out,
Roman Raines just called that creative
at an interview on a WWE-friendly show.
While the Daughter of the Rock
has decided not to renew by mutual agreement.
Suddenly. It wasn't like they wrote her off the show.
I don't think on Tuesday or anything.
We didn't hear anything about that.
It's just she's not going to return.
Someone knew is going to come out and be like,
you remember that person last week?
She'll never use that name again, quite literally.
what do you think
Juan Johnson thinks
I think in the words
of the poet Ronnie Van Sant
there's something going on
that we don't know
and this may be only
the tip of the
the tip of the iceberg
the tip of the rock
a little piece of the rock
a tiny tiny pebbles
in the bowl
what am I doing what am I saying
I don't know
but, you know, it makes you wonder either
they said, you're not
going to come back, you can put out a friendly tweet about it,
or the Rock said,
you know what, honey, Shad Khan style,
it's time for you to have your inheritance now.
Do whatever you want.
And unlike Tony, she said,
I want to get out of the wrestling business.
Yeah.
In that case, I'm getting a fuck away from all you motherfuckers.
Well, I mean, it's probably best
because I'm sure that
many people were nice to her, you know, to her face and didn't want to be rude or whatever,
either because they liked her personally or they didn't want to make her father mad.
But no, she had no business on a fucking wrestling show doing any goddamn thing.
She didn't need to be on television.
Since she'd been on the air, people decided to quit breathing it.
When she walks into a bank, they turn off the cameras.
Can I stress more how she doesn't need to be on television?
She was not a very good on-air performer.
She didn't have the voice, the charisma, the delivery.
She was towering over male and female talent.
And there was nothing, it wasn't like she was a former star.
And they said, all right, well, you're not wrestling anymore.
You're a GM.
Not that that's justified, but at least that's happened.
That makes sense.
It was, all right, you were kind of on this TV a few times,
and you're the daughter of the Rock, so you're the GM.
Yeah.
And the fans were never going to give her a,
break because she was obviously a NEPO hire.
It's, again, you know, they were trying to be nice in every way to the rock, but that's not
fair to the girl.
That's not fair to when sometimes these people get put in these positions, they can't
win.
They're not going to be any good.
They look awkward.
And fans are just going to laugh at them.
It's not a favor to them to give them a job they're not qualified.
for.
Well, an all-out war may break out if
Nia Jax gets released next.
We'll see.
Anyhow, speaking of
which, we're going to do this again
coming up shortly in a few days
as your program, and then this again,
next week, as my program.
And we keep doing this all through the year.
Just all the time.
You can't get away from us.
But a big week of shows coming up,
the Royal Rumble Review, and so much more.
That's right.
rumbling on the next program and then next week i'm going to keep this stack of papers here because as i said
as i get down there and then and we go to a two-hour show on in prime time on spike and then my friend
comes in these things get a lot more goddamn detail and as i was just i haven't even read all of them
yet but as i was looking i'm like my god some things never changed they're doing a same stupid
shit 20 years later in the wrestling business that I was seeing for the first time 20 years ago
going, where the fuck did this shit come from and why are these guys doing it?
Patient zero of bad indie style wrestling coming up in the future on the Jim Cornett
experience.
Until then, Brian, any closing thoughts?
We'll see you on the drive-through.
Everyone say, say, everyone say warm.
Everyone stay warm and stay-
Warm, warm, safe, I'll say them all.
And until then, folks, thank you.
Fuck you.
Bye, bye, everybody.
