Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 628: Scintillating Conversation

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews WWE Smackdown, with Pat McAfee being thrown into the main event picture! Plus Jim talks about WWE creative, Kyle Fletcher's injury, AEW Wembley ticket sales, J...onathan the 104 year old tortoise, Humphrey Bogart, and much more! Also, Jim reviews Chris Jericho's AEW return, and previews AEW Dynasty!  Thanks to our episode sponsors: HELIX:  Go to helixsleep.com/jce for 20% off sitewide during their Spring Savings Event! RIDGE:  Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code JCE at https://www.Ridge.com/jce #Ridgepod RAYCON:  Celebrate the moms in your life! Go to buyraycon.com/JCE to get 15% off the Everyday Earbuds Classic. FACTOR:  Head to Factormeals.com/jce50off and use code JCE50OFF to get 50 percent off and free daily greens per box, with a new subscription. Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornett. The keys to the future. Hell by Annette. The Jim Cornett experience right here today on the program, Humphrey Bogart, Lamar Odom, Jonathan the Turtle, and a lot of other people and things that don't involve wrestling. And unfortunately, a few that do.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And joining me for all this and more. incintillating conversation. Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard podcast network, Mr. co-host to you, the Peter Lorry to my Sydney Green Street. Be great right last, everybody. Aloha, Jim.
Starting point is 00:01:35 A pleasure to be here again for a happy and fun edition of the experience. And this is your show. Well, I'm glad you were able to testify in such lengthy detail about how happy and cheerful you are. It's Apple Blossom, Time. Brian, I'll be with you in Apple Blossom Time.
Starting point is 00:01:56 My ears. I'm telling you, the dog woods are in bloom. The red buds are just out purple and just bright. About a month ahead of schedule, it's a weirdest spring already record high temperatures here in Louisville, Kentucky. It's 20 degrees warmer every day than it's supposed to be. We went from record cold in February to record heat and mark. and now the plants and the animals and the mammals and the mammaries, none of them know what to do.
Starting point is 00:02:28 They're just sprouting out all over there. You've seen the mammaries sprouting out all over the place. No. Well, you need to keep a better eye out for them. But anyway, and again, the pollen, the pollen, Brian. It's terrible. My eyes are shaking and my eyes are shaking. my wheeze are knees are weak my wheeze are neek i'm just i'm suffering the effects of an early
Starting point is 00:02:57 spring on my my my poor head and my squishy ear going back to the doctor telling me these goddamn man of histamines that he gave me ain't done shit made my mouth a will dry didn't clear my ear up what's that you said kate i can't hear you all right we're going to talk about some things today. Are you cheerful? I hope so. Do you have a pulse over there? I'm feeling good.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Oh, see, jolly and happy. I'm waiting for you to bring it. It's your show. You've got to bring it. Bring it. I want to keep it. I'm staying home with it. You got to share it.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I just, recognizing a couple of the people, the cult of cornet out there, I got an email from Jesse from Boston, who lost Monroe, or as his full name was, Monroeius de la Schmoop, but it was his 12-year-old puppy dog, and he's been listening to the show to keep himself distracted from that,
Starting point is 00:04:08 but he was a clumber spaniel. And he sent a picture of cute little baby. But anyway, he says that he likes our reviews much better than the actual wrestling is at least that's entertaining. So it's keeping his mind off of it. But our sympathies for Schmoup. And also I got an email from Alex from Manchester over the United Kingdom who said a lot of nice things about me.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And actually, you too, Brian, kind of, you know, by extent. And I'm not going to read what he said because then it would just be. self-serving and lacking in humility of me, but I wanted to tell him that I thanked him for saying thank you to me for saying things that he heard me say. Thank you, Alex. Now that that's clear. Now that that's cleared up. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Brian, I know you're just dying to jump in on this one. This is an email to both of us. So this actually goes into some detail on something that we spoke. about here on the program just recently. And remember when we talked about poor Grado getting paid by a drawing of a check on a piece of paper by TNA wrestling and they sent it to him over in Scotland and he took it to the bank because he thought it was some weird American thing. And we did read the other day on your program, I think, possibly.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I can't remember an email from Grado who's doing well and stars. in everything that is ever staged in the United Kingdom. But this is from Callum, who is both a Scotsman and a bank branch employee. So therefore, he can officially testify in two different areas of expertise, Brian, as to what the fuck goes on over there with the checks and shit, correct?
Starting point is 00:06:12 I presume. Possibly, maybe. Possibly, maybe. Well, we'll see if he sounds like, like a person to be trifled with. Jim was not ignorant, first of all, to assume that Grado was British when he's Scottish, because he is technically both. Scotland is a constituent country within both the United Kingdom and Great Britain. It is a common misconception around the world that Scotland and Britain are separate,
Starting point is 00:06:39 but just for clarification, Great Britain is an island made up of England, Scotland, and Wales, and the United Kingdom contains England, Scotland, Wales, and also includes Northern Ireland. Therefore, Grado is both Scottish and British. So that son of a bitch is double-dipping, Brian. I don't think that's what you would call that. It's not double-dipping exactly. Well, he's got two different goddamn, like, home countries.
Starting point is 00:07:13 He can do Welcome Home Grado show. in two different fucking whole countries. And do you think he gets like two different social security checks or two different, he's got some, he's got the benefits of citizenship of two different fine, upstanding, well-established countries. That ought to be illegal.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Well, I don't know how upstanding, but yeah, I mean, I guess there's something in what you said. I don't know what exactly. They stand up a lot better than we do these days over there. and secondly, and possibly more importantly, a couple more points to note around the Grado
Starting point is 00:07:51 check incident. As a bank cashier, I can confirm that in the United Kingdom, it is very rare for anyone to be paid by check. The vast majority of the time payments are automatically transferred into the employee's bank account, and on the occasions where they are not, it is usually because the employee is working some kind of manual job which pays cash in hand. Checks are quite simply an inefficient method of salary payment over here. Checks do exist in the UK, but they are more often issued in instances such as refunds from companies or as gifts between family members. And he said international checks, which I assume Grado received from T&A, are a nightmare
Starting point is 00:08:40 to process in our banks because UK checks are different to American ones and our banking systems are not designed to process them. So, okay, this explains part of what that I was talking about a week or two ago, Brian, when we got comments on the incident to begin with. But there's people saying, commenting, we haven't seen a check in 30 years, which insinuates to me, that's not the proper usage of that word, but it does that they don't write checks either. I can understand, okay, if you work for a business or a company,
Starting point is 00:09:21 you're an employee, they just direct deposit your check. That's a thing that people do these days. I don't like it, but I know it's done. But how do you pay the fucking electric bill? You're still writing a fucking check or your goddamn credit card bill. do you pay your credit card bill put it on my credit card how the fuck what i mean most people just do direct debit you know it's pretty simple but that's ridiculous then you you've just given control of all your finances over to some fucking nameless bot and a lot of these bots ain't worth the paper they're printed
Starting point is 00:10:02 on well again the good thing is in america you do have the option of writing a check sending a check What do you think about hearing that it's not like this was recently phased out, but from all the feedback, and we got a lot of feedback, more than I thought we would about this, it seems that these were phased out, checks, these pronouns, pal, checks were phased out like 35 years ago or so. What do you think of that? Yeah, I guess, you know, if they gave me an alternative, well, here you go, here's your bill, fine, here's a check. Oh, we can't take that. Well, and you can't get paid. I don't know how I would have
Starting point is 00:10:45 existed in such an environment. Just willy-nilly going around telling people your fucking bank account information all over the place. Would things have been any different? Like, let's say in 1984, the end of the territory days, if instead of, you know, like in Mid-South, instead of the check system they had, if it was, we will deposit it right into your bank account every three weeks. How would that change things? Well, for one thing, you would have still had to have given the guy, the piece of paper, assuming that everything else in 1984 is the same, we still don't have the internet, right? Et cetera, we're just direct depositing the checks, or what's your fantasy?
Starting point is 00:11:31 I think in that fantasy, it's just that. It's somehow a direct deposit right into your bank account, an electronic check pre-election trying to check. I don't know how you would say it. Okay. So basically, you'd still have to hand the guy a piece of paper at interviews or at TV later that day every fucking two weeks on a Wednesday, telling that guy what he made for each town and what has been deposited in his account. And then he would have to go home and immediately check to make sure that you weren't just bullshitting him and that the money really was there before he decided whether he's come back to work the next day.
Starting point is 00:12:17 That would be one thing because that's what in Mid-South, for example, I've said, the guys, the main talent that was in interviews on Wednesdays, every Wednesday, that's where you'd get your check and they paid every two weeks. and that would have the breakdown of the towns that you worked in that the check pair well I'm sorry let me try this again you got to check every week but it was for two weeks before that because Watts held back the week you see what I'm saying because he wanted to make sure if you left the territory you knew you were leaving a week's pay behind so point me we got to check every week at TV
Starting point is 00:12:58 and it was for two weeks previous and it can all that information, and the guys immediately ran, I've told this story, to the bank to cash the fucking check and get to cash. And then later on, maybe or maybe not, they would deposit it in a bank account if they had one. Because some of the guys didn't have a goddamn checking account. Maybe most people, sometimes they're a wife or it may have been in their fucking girlfriend's name. They had an apartment and they had, you know, the girlfriend signed a lease, whatever the fuck. It was, it was not just like it is today with the young, you know, generation.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Literally some of the guys had to go to the bank and that in Shreveport that the Mid-South account was at, that they knew the guys were coming every Wednesday afternoon. they could cash those checks without having a bank account of their own. But no, there would have been a mass fucking riot slash exodus. Because some guys, again, didn't have a bank account. Some guys wouldn't have trusted it.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You were on the road to the boat. There was no way that you could just get online and find out whether money was in your bank account or not. You'd have to wait until a two of a two of a car. or three days later, maybe when you were back home in Alexandria or Baton Rouge, go to the bank and ask them how much money you had. You see where I'm going with this. Yeah, you know, and it's crazy that Grado would teach us something about America that we didn't know. Think of how many instances in the past where a promoter didn't have their checkbook on them conveniently. Imagine if you had the
Starting point is 00:14:52 knowledge, okay, draw me a check right now. What do you mean? Just draw me a check. I will take it to the bank and take my chances, just draw it. It would have worked. No one knew that. I saw kind of the opposite that time with Gordon's Casari. I knew it. He had a pack of checks with no
Starting point is 00:15:15 register, just in his hand, a pack of checks. And as the guys were standing there, he was just writing them checks for what they told him they believed that they were owed for either what they'd already done or for extra work they were going to do or for inconvenience or what. whatever the fuck. And he was just writing checks and handing them to people, not even writing down
Starting point is 00:15:33 how much it was. Anyhow, so that clears that up. But Brian, let me ask you this. You may know where I'm going with this, because I recorded something that had been broadcast on television a week or two ago, whenever, but I just got the chance to watch it. If I was to say to you that Humphrey Bogart starred in a wrestling movie, would you be able to call the name of the movie right off the top of the bat? I would not know.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I got you with one. I've been trying to fucking see this movie again. I saw this thing 40 years ago on TV, I know not where, somewhere around the country, right? And I've never seen it again, and it was on Turner Classic movies here recently. Swing your lady!
Starting point is 00:16:27 Does that ring any bells? It does not. Okay, Humphrey Bogart plays a wrestling manager in 1937, this was the year the movie was released, and he's barnstorming across the country in a car with his wrestler that he manages, trying to drum up big matches for him,
Starting point is 00:16:50 as they actually did back in those days in some cases, right? and the wrestler is played by Nat Pendleton, who I know you will recognize. Yeah, I know that name. Nat Pendleton was actually an Olympic wrestler for the United States in the 20s, same decade as Johnny Weissmuller was a swimmer. And then it turned pro and was a professional wrestler,
Starting point is 00:17:17 you know, of some note during that time period, the 30s, but would go on to be, I guess he was the first wrestler that went Hollywood, right? Because he started getting parts in movies and ended up transitioning to acting full time. He was in Abbott and Costello movies. He was even into 50s television. He was the tall, fucking grumpy police sergeant
Starting point is 00:17:47 or the drill instructor or whatever the fuck. but Nat Pendleton's the wrestler and they get stuck in the, in the Ozarks back in the backwoods and they can't find any opponent for Nat Pendleton to wrestle and they come up on the idea of pitting him in a match against the lady blacksmith in town, who's this big strapping woman, and maybe we can get some interest in this. And they're trying to sell this match when the lady
Starting point is 00:18:21 blacksmith's boyfriend shows up and he wants to take the fucking match and it's Whiskers Savage and although he's billed in the credits as Daniel Boone Savage which is the gimmick that he was doing in the
Starting point is 00:18:38 30s but he was then I think maybe just a year or two away from the start of a big run in Houston in Houston wrestling is Whiskers Savage He was a hillbilly with the pig and the blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And he's a real legitimate. It would be the same thing at that point as like, you know, give me a star from today. So many names running through my mind. If suddenly fucking, well, all the guys are in movies. But if suddenly one of the top guys of today ends up in a, you know, a movie, it was early in the wrestling business for that to happen back then. So point being, you get a chance to see at a couple of the scenes. You get a chance to see, because this was a lighthearted movie,
Starting point is 00:19:34 what was probably a bunch of spot show spots they were doing in the 30s. And two legitimate top guys working, even a Hollywood match, the fucking style of what wrestling was then, at least from a lighthearted standpoint, like I said, you know, the spot show spots. But it's kind of fascinating because we've seen the wrestling scene in Night in the City with Zubisco and Missouri
Starting point is 00:20:04 where they were both from the 30s and Zabisco before that and working that the old stiff snug, we want these people to believe kind of shit because it was a dramatic movie. And now you get to see these two guys doing the 30s gaga that they were probably doing in the fucking Hattiesburg, Mississippi National Guard Armory. So it's just, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:20:30 But that movie is almost never seen, which is why probably you've never seen it. I've never seen it. I looked it up on Wikipedia. I'm going to see it by getting a copy of it. Humphrey Bogart was apparently becoming very disenchanted with the film roles that Warner Brothers was offering him at this stage of his career, the following year, he appeared in his only horror sci-fi film,
Starting point is 00:20:53 The Return of Dr. X. Dr. X. And these were the two roles he never liked talking about when he became a major film star several years later. He considered his performance in Swin Your Lady the worst of his career. And Swing Your Lady is listed in the 1978 book, The 50 Worst Film Your Lady.
Starting point is 00:21:15 of all times. Wow. I got to see this just because of, you know, the whole thing interests me, and I love films from that era, but footage of Whisker Savage, I got to see that.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah, and I mean, he's got, you can see why he got over because he just got that fucking, the face, the look. It's a classic,
Starting point is 00:21:40 he could be the hillbilly, the caveman, the fucking, you know, gimmick, and I think he might have made a few more movies also after that. So I don't think most of those people are watching just for the wrestling scenes. I think they were actually expecting acting and plot and shit.
Starting point is 00:21:58 What's the name of the producer? Samuel Bischoff. Oh, no. That's right. Is that the first case of a member of the Bischoff family managing a bomb in a wrestling business? That's the first time. a Bischoff was involved in a wrestling film that made the list of the worst films of all time. Well, anyway, folks, swing your lady with Humphrey Bogart and Nat Pendleton and Whisker's Savage.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And did you know, brother, right now as we speak, and I found out completely by accident about this, but as we are sitting here, right here, right now, a member of the cult of Corneth that we speak of on occasion is starring in a goddamn big-time Netflix television program. Have you heard about this? You're talking about the new John fellow in Baltimore documentary? No, no, no. That's being released by the German goo girls set up.
Starting point is 00:23:02 The goo girl, really? I didn't know about this. They're adopting an offshoot where they're doing home family reality. But nevertheless, no, I'm serious. A big cult of Corvette member is in a big time TV show on Netflix right now and we haven't even called anybody's attention to it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Didn't even know it. I have no idea what you're talking about, no. There is a program right now on Netflix called Untold the Death and Life of Lamar Odom. Have you seen this program advertise? I have seen it advertised. I have not watched it. And one of the, actually the star of the show,
Starting point is 00:23:40 I mean, he steals the show was the appearance of our friend Richard Hunter who has been a member of the Cult of Cordette who we've talked about a letter. I just mentioned him here a few months ago a letter from him who sent a couple of really nice gifts.
Starting point is 00:23:57 He and his lovely better half. Listen to the program. We've exchanged letters back and forth and various packages and things over the past couple years. And he had said, and I had read from the thing that he had said this was last year before
Starting point is 00:24:14 that he was the guy that administered the first first aid CPR etc to Lamar Odom when he spazzed out in the whorehouse of which Richard Hunter was the I think his official title was the manager of the establishment he's at the Hollywood
Starting point is 00:24:35 Horror Museum Say again Hormonger The, well, the official horror monger, Richard Hunter, but he's now at the Hollywood Horror Museum in Las Vegas there. Horror monger. He's a, well, he's a horror monger, but also they got the room, the people who own the horror museum that he is managing now, got the room from the brothel that Lamar Odomo
Starting point is 00:25:04 did and set it, set it up there in the museum. so he had to go ahead and look at that every day. He was like, what the fuck? But nevertheless, he tells the story. They take him to the site of the former hoor house in question. And, you know, he's telling a story and explaining, and it does a very good job of adequately being some kind of sane voice in the middle of this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But basically, Lamar Odom started out as a nice young kid that could play, basketball with a nice girlfriend and a couple of kids, and then got in the NBA and made money and started fucking doing cocaine and met a Kardashian and went completely off his shit. And O-Ding in a whore house in the desert and had to be, and here's the goddamn deal. After that he did this and he was brain dead and whatever the fuck, old Chloe Kardashian was about ready to break up with him anyway
Starting point is 00:26:15 and then this happened and she stayed by him and helped him he had to learn to talk again he had to learn to walk again he was like a vegetable for however many fucking months whatever the case and he gets through all of this and he gets back on his own two feet or whatever and she comes in the house one day
Starting point is 00:26:38 and he's smoking crack again again. And she said, fuck it. And she went out and filed for divorce the next day. And then I went to sleep on the last bit of the program.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I don't actually know what fucking happened to him. Because I knew Richard was, his part was done and I was sleepy. But Richard Hunter, famed cult of Cornett member, is starring in this program right now. He should combine his two interests
Starting point is 00:27:09 because I don't know too much about the whorehouses, but you never hear anything about like themed whorehouses. How about horror horrors? And they can all be dressed as monsters or spooky or, you know, Elvira. Now, wait a way, do you want the monsters dressed as horrors or the whores dressed as monsters? I think you have to start with the horrors and work your way the other way. You have the horrors and now it's about what can we do to attract these nutty horror fans
Starting point is 00:27:33 who have lots of money, I guess, and nothing to do. Well, let's spitball that. or brainstorm or workshop that. How about speedball? Let's speedball that. No, no, no. That's what old Lamar, that's where he got into trouble. All right, I've got an update on a news story.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And folks, it's not as bad as it sounds when I start this, but the news came out a couple of days ago. Jonathan, the world's oldest land mammal, the 194-year-old giant tortoise had died on the island of St. Helena. Have you heard about Jonathan? I have not heard anything about it. Is this what we're replacing
Starting point is 00:28:22 the AEW Dynamite Reviews? Yes, because this is interesting. This is like National Geographic. I've not heard about Jonathan. You didn't hear about the Jonathan controversy. It's a controversy. I didn't hear about the Jonathan controversy. It was his vet announced
Starting point is 00:28:37 and he put out on Twitter. He said, I am the veterinarian of John. Jonathan, the 194-year-old giant tortoise, the world's oldest land mammal. And I have cared for him and had the privilege to know him and his wisdom for loathe's many years now. And I have seen the eyes that reflect a mirror of the world and society that's gone through the first photograph and the first phone call and the first light bulb and the first plane flight and the landing on the moon. and this great and majestic creature has left this world, right? And everybody just hit the news everywhere. Oh, God damn.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Come to find out that the veterinarian that announced that was really, it was the name of Jonathan's veterinarian, but it was an imposter, Brian. It was a scammer that had stolen the identity of the veterinarian of Jonathan, the 194-year-old giant tortoise, and he had made a fake announcement from Brazil trying to sell cryptocurrency. And Jonathan is still alive and well at the age of 194. He's beat old Uncle Elijah, who, as we all know, is still alive at 105. But can you believe that?
Starting point is 00:30:05 They made a goddamn, a crippling. cryptocurrency scam tied to the fake death of this poor majestic creature. I got a bunch of messages a couple weeks ago from Missy Hyatt. She must have been hacked. It was all crypto. It was all like, look at how good I did with this crypto. I have seen more tweets from people saying that Missy Hyatt's account was attacked, was hacked, and here's her new account because the old account is she's not selling cryptocurrency.
Starting point is 00:30:35 How does that happen that you can't go? to any responsible party at this dog and pony show they call Twitter these days and say obviously this has happened, restore me my, what would be the matter with some idiot that would set up some kind of business, Brian, where you couldn't just contact people to make things right immediately? Well, again, I don't know if it's the same person that hit Missy Hyatt that hit the doctor of Jonathan. So Jonathan's still alive and well.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Jonathan is alive. And he'll soon be 195. How soon? Next year. When? I don't know. I mean, soon he makes it sound like it'll be within months. Are you just making it up?
Starting point is 00:31:22 He is currently 194. So on his next birthday, he'll be 195. I don't know what more to tell you. It's estimated anyway because they assigned him 100 and whatever years ago, an arbitrary birthday date said that they could celebrate. as the article said, but that they have been estimating because they don't, they didn't see when he was born, they just know that he's been around a long fucking time, so they started counting.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So he could be 200, and we just don't know. It is within the realm of possibility. He might be only 191 and be trying to fool everybody, work some kind of AARP scam. I don't know. He should start an only fan. I'm sure plenty of people would like to watch a live stream of the 195-year-old turtle. Tortoise, excuse me. Tortoise.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Not to, you know, that's a slur in the turtle and tortoise community. I guess so, yeah. If you confuse the two, but, well, speaking of only fans, to be honest, this is kind of the next piece of news that we have in current events. It kind of goes within that genre. Have you heard about the Gnome family saga, Brian, we got to take just a second to acknowledge this. my long-time close personal friend, Krusty Knoem
Starting point is 00:32:43 and her family drama that's been playing at. If you watch the news at all, Brian, have you functioned over the last few days? I believe Krusty Knoem was Lord Littlebrook's nickname, if we're going to be correct. No, I've seen this story, unfortunately, the new papers. The newspapers really want you to see the image of this fucking guy with his fake tits, it's the weirdest fucking thing ever. And making kissy face.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And here's the, I don't even know how to describe this and it would probably be brutal if I did to the people around the world who don't have to put up with this foolishness. But if you just, if you just want to Google it, they found out and here's the irony in the situation. This is irony in a situation used properly.
Starting point is 00:33:35 They're saying that it, may have been an illegal immigrant that released this information to get even with Krusty Knoem for being the head of this fucking fiasco. How did they get it?
Starting point is 00:33:51 Well, they might have very well been on the same goddamn websites that her husband was See, apparently for people around the world, Christy Knoam, who was the Ice Barbie in charge of Schittler's private Gestapo that
Starting point is 00:34:06 would admit to nothing and another one of the plastic surgery faces that all the women in his orbit have to have to hide their ghoulish nature. They're probably snake people. While she's been campaigning across the country, including spending $200 million in taxpayer regardless of whatever you think about the ICE operations,
Starting point is 00:34:34 She got a campaign of over $200 million for TV commercials and media depicting her riding the horse and wearing the costumes and deporting the people as the face of the Department of Homeland Security, $200 million of our money to make Ice Barbie fulfill her fantasies of being a goddamn showgirl or whatever. her husband was home spending five grand on a video hooker to look at him dressed up as a woman with gigantic fake boobs underneath his shirt. And the nipples were crooked.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And the nipples were crooked, but he was doing the best he could with homemade material. But the thing that blew up the internet and the news was not that this douchebag, this heartless blood-sucking ghoul spent $200 million of taxpayers' money to finger herself in public cosplaying is all the things she fantasized about being while she was having an affair on said husband at home with another one of those dipshits that's been orbiting the Trump criminal regime,
Starting point is 00:36:01 Corey Lewandowski, I don't remember what his official title is besides you know assistant dick sucker but while the thing that broke the internet was the husband spending five grand of his own money on the video hooker and dressing up
Starting point is 00:36:19 which nobody gives a shit I don't care whether he dresses up or dresses at all I don't know him I don't live next to him I'll never have seen and it's none of my business what he wants to dress up
Starting point is 00:36:38 or what he wants to do while he's dressed up. Or even how he wants to spend his personal fucking funds. But it's this that blew up the fucking internet instead of the other shit because if only
Starting point is 00:36:58 seven trans kids in a country of 350 million people didn't want to play high school volleyball, we wouldn't have had to suffer under the Trump administration. But because they did, we do, because that's what they were all trying to say. The trans people, the gay people, those other people, they're going to molest your children. They're going to give junior a sex change operation in third grade biology when you pick him up. He's a girl. What do the kids call
Starting point is 00:37:35 it, Brian, projection? The only people, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that they are persecuting is the people they know deep down that they are and they don't like it. And there was another guy that Trump pardoned for January 6th. They just brought him back in for more issues with children, which makes several of varying degrees and different types of offenses. I was going to say, didn't a bunch of people that got pardoned for January 6 get arrested again for a variety of heinous things? Yes. Yes. Yes. they did. Who could have predicted that?
Starting point is 00:38:17 And so, and some of these things happened after they got out where they wouldn't have been out, they wouldn't have goddamn, so the point is, the call is coming from within the house with these fucking maggots that everything that they say these other people are going to do is the shit they're doing. and especially where children are concerned.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I've just seen, again, within the past week, three different pieces of news from the various local newscasts of somebody either beating their kids, mistreating their kids or whatever with kids, and they're all fucking white people. They're not immigrants. They're not immigrants. transgender people.
Starting point is 00:39:15 They don't appear to be gay people. I'm not going to pry that closely. They're just regular old stupid fucking white people. Just like it's still a majority in this country. Stupid fucking white people.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But anyway, it's just, and Christy Gnome wants privacy for her family during this time. You know whose family? I bet would have some privacy. Renee Goods and Alex Prettys, you fucking bitch.
Starting point is 00:39:49 While they wanted some privacy, you were on television slandering them, calling them domestic terrorists after your fucking people murdered them. So fuck you and your privacy. I think people ought to put a picture of your fucking husband and his big titty's up on billboards. Well, to be fair, she's going through a lot. Imagine what you'd feel if you went into your bedroom and found your husband wearing your brazier.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Imagine what I would feel if I went into my bedroom and found my husband. I'd be going, what the fuck's going on here? Those pictures are so disturbing. Again, everyone like what you like as long as you don't hurt people, but for God's sake, don't want the photos get out. How's anyone could ever see this guy
Starting point is 00:40:35 any other way again than wearing this gigantic, ridiculous fake chest? I don't know. But anyway, speaking of gigantic fake chess, Chris Jericho came back to AEW. Nah, I shouldn't. He's looking in good shape.
Starting point is 00:40:58 But Brian, try to explain to me how in the world that he managed to fuck this up to where that the WWE said, fuck it will pass. Could he have hit him with a ridiculous amount of money that he wanted guaranteed?
Starting point is 00:41:23 I know the story is out that they wanted him for a retirement tour and a Hall of Fame deal. What would he think else they wanted him for? And how could he not see that if he, and they
Starting point is 00:41:41 both played it right that he would make millions of dollars from a few days at work and not have to fucking swim in the pools of mediocrity anymore over at the fucking fake bunch. Help me understand this. There's a lot
Starting point is 00:41:57 of questions there. There's a lot of questions there and there are different answers for everything. Never forget that Chris Jericho to this day may still be the most successful manipulator of Tony Con. To this day. And if Chris Jericho went to
Starting point is 00:42:12 WWE, there wasn't a chance in hell they wanted to hear his creative ideas. Not that their creative is stellar, but it's better than Chris Jericho's. And Chris Jericho sees himself as an artist in and outside of the ring
Starting point is 00:42:28 and thinks that his ideas are the ones that he should do. And a lot of us have been calling him creatively bankrupt since, I don't know, around 2020 at least, maybe before them, but he had a brief period the early days of AEW where he was actually all right. WWE wasn't going to do that. WWE just wanted to retire him and your career here. They didn't see 55-year-old Chris Jericho
Starting point is 00:42:52 as someone worth signing for multiple years, nor should they, based on what we saw of him in the ring during his last AEW run where he didn't mean anything for the business. AEW fans got real sick of him and not in the K-Fave Heat kind of way please retire was the chant
Starting point is 00:43:12 they wanted him off TV funny enough they started to like their product again a lot more when he wasn't there and his ideas weren't on that show that's all about to change and you've seen an about face from a lot of AEW fans on social media all of a sudden now they love Jericho again because the narrative is he chose AEW I think the quote was he will end his career in AEW
Starting point is 00:43:36 it's the only place he wants to work Well, actually, you could have switched that around and say AEW ended his career. But I think to conclude two things. One, there's no way WWE could justify an inflated salary for a 55-year-old Chris Jericho who wants to do more than they would ever want him to do. Secondly, I'm not altogether convinced. I mean, he never left the AEW roster page. and we heard that he had time on his contract extended because of injury or missed,
Starting point is 00:44:12 you know, period time off, whatever it is. He's never not been under AEW contract. I'm not 100% convinced that he's not still working under the exact same deal he had, and this was all to get people talking. And people did talk for about a day before he came back. There was an article in one of these mock news websites, mock news website. websites like The Onion, but it wasn't that one. It was a different one about the horror that he was going to continue making music. And then all of a sudden, some of the usual sources like Dave Meltzer,
Starting point is 00:44:45 who has a pretty good source when it comes to Jericho stuff, started saying he chose A.W. WWE would have only wanted this. And now Jericho's back. We could talk about, even though we're not reviewing Dynamite, I know you saw his return appearance. But I think that's what it is. It didn't make any sense for WWE to sign him unless he was just going to do a retirement tour and he was going to bend to their creative. And
Starting point is 00:45:13 he has made a fantastic amount of money in his life. He doesn't have to do any of this. He clearly wants to do his stuff and the only place he's going to be able to do most of that is with Tony Khan, who will give him more money still
Starting point is 00:45:29 than WWE would. Again, if there ever was a lapse in the contract and I'm not convinced that there is until I see something, then Tony Kahn would be paying him more than anyone else was bidding against him. So there are elements of this that don't make sense, but Chris Cherokee's at 55 years old or whatever is back in AEW. Well, and I agree with you, depending on the contract thing, what doesn't make sense to me is it, okay, let's say Tony did extend it. He's still under contract. But I just fail to see how that you would be able to extend it that far
Starting point is 00:46:10 that oh, we're going to hold him for another two years that they would say in the WWE, we don't think he's coming in for a long time if ever. If this was just a short-term thing or whatever, did he lie to them about, you know, the term of his contract? Because remember we said it before when everybody was talking about it coming to a in in 2025, didn't he say at a 10-year contract fucking five years ago. But the point is, if he's played
Starting point is 00:46:45 somebody against somebody else just to get more fucking money, then congratulations to him. But if he was free, clear, and able to go, and he didn't take the chance and the opportunity of doing anything with the WWE in terms of a retirement year and a fucking Hall of Fame deal. Two or three big matches,
Starting point is 00:47:10 handful of appearances it can generate millions. If he didn't do that and he had the option to, he's a fucking idiot. Because even the AEW fans ain't going to want to see him wrestle in AEW. As you said, most of his shit is fucking bad. And he's going to have to at least, travel more, if not also work harder for Tony's inflated payment to him.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And after, as you said, he's made tons of money in his life. Wouldn't you want to go out on an up note that why you can still do it a couple times in a year and a lot of people will see it? And he get the Hall of Fame thing and the big time videos and the merchandise sales that'll come with the last YJ or whatever the fuck they do or just do bad TV in a fucking indie-minded company
Starting point is 00:48:11 that a quarter of the people are going to fucking see. For a ton of money, for more money than WWE would give you because it's an unreasonable amount for the value you have to the wrestling business right now. If you were Chris Jericho and in your head, you still have more to give, you still have more you want,
Starting point is 00:48:31 want to do. Maybe that's the better way to say it. Then somebody should tell him, look in the mirror and look at yourself. But if you talk to WWE and even if you agree, yeah, I'm going to have a retirement year, let's do something special. If they told you right at the beginning, we only want you to lose the Gunther. Basically, we only want you to come back so that he can retire you. Would you have a problem with that? Well, but what does that mean? Come back and just have a match with Gunther and boom, and he retires you or be brought back, do shit during the course of the year, the culminating program
Starting point is 00:49:08 is Gunther, and he fucking chokes you out. Well, yes, that's a wrestling fucking deal. I'll come in, I'll get over, you'll give me some guy, boom, boom, boom, and then I'll put the guy over. That's not unreasonable. And at this stage of the game, again, is there a difference of three minutes? million dollars over the course of that. With all of the millions of dollars that Chris has already made, and I'm sure he's a spin thrift and he's careful with his money, why would you want to
Starting point is 00:49:43 do shit for the next two or three years or whatever the fuck in the secondary company when you can go out on top in mainstream matches on the strongest television program in the world and get in the fucking Hall of Fame in the whole nine yards, which comes with merchandising and marketing, et cetera, that you will benefit from, and also be hooked up with these goddamn Hollywood agents and or record company people that run TKO instead of, does Jericho want to be a trainer for the Jacksonville Jaguars?
Starting point is 00:50:24 That's who Tony's connections are. why wouldn't he want to be with the WWE now and unless they didn't want him? The world's, the world's only unknown 60 year old wrestling rock singer. Again, unless W.W.E.
Starting point is 00:50:41 either did not want him. I think they would want. I think they wanted him. I think he fucked it up. I think he, like you said, if this even came to, if it even came to talks, he had too high opinion of himself, wanted too much money or wasn't realistic. And that's why I said, how can he fuck this up?
Starting point is 00:51:00 That's a tailor-made deal, which we've been saying for the past couple of years. Chris comes in, he gets a year on TV and a fucking Hall of Fame and boom, and that would generate money for everybody. Or he can continue just to be one of the boys and do shit nobody wants to see. And they did have several teases. Various people made comments on TV like CM Punk, I think made a reference one day, just little things that made people think they're teasing Jericho. people thought Jericho was going to be in the Rumble.
Starting point is 00:51:29 People thought Jericho was going to be the Maskman. People thought Jericho may be announced at some point on the road of WrestleMania. The whole time he was still on the AEW roster page, never left the roster page at all. If he was negotiating for an extension because he wasn't up and he was able to tell Tony, hey, WWE, I'm talking to them, they were interested to get more money. that's one thing, but, you know, I'm not saying this is the Brian Pilman situation, but if he was still under contract for a while, it kind of doesn't matter what he wanted to do if he couldn't leave until at least the summer. So I don't know what to think of this whole
Starting point is 00:52:13 thing. I think AEW fans are going to really regret this on their TV very, very soon. But yeah, what are your closing thoughts on this? Well, yeah, well, and basically what he did. I guess we should finish with. that, what he did on the television program. They're in Winnipeg. And yes, I did, because I don't mind watching AEW for five minutes to watch a guy walk to the ring and wave at people and then continue waving at people until it becomes humorous. And that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Beg them to wave back. Beg them to wave back. They're in Winnipeg, his original hometown. And, golly, who could have thought. who could have known anything when his fucking parents were sitting in the front row. Did you pick up on this that maybe most people wouldn't have thought, but in Winnipeg, they know who Ted Irvine is. He was goddamn professional hockey player, great, lauded, recognized player.
Starting point is 00:53:19 He's sitting on the front row. How could you possibly imagine his son might be on the show? Brian, did anybody even bring this up? I didn't see Ted Irvine until after, towards the end when he was hugging people around ringside, so. Well, yeah, he's 80 years old. He sure didn't get out there in fucking three and a half minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Jericho walked right out and there he was in the front road. He's singing the fucking song. That's what I'm saying. Tony Chivani is in the ring for the bogus contract signing, whatever they're going to do. and the pyro goes off apparently either inadvertently or in an odd order because he wasn't, it threw him off, he wasn't ready for whatever was going on. He's supposed to be interrupted by the music and et cetera, which he finally is.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And then out comes Jericho and the people pop because it's Jericho and he's back and it's his hometown. and the music and they like to sing the song. Again, I can't imagine that it was a surprise to a lot of people in the building because Chris Jericho's father was sitting on a front row
Starting point is 00:54:34 that he was going to be there. But then, you could tell he was trying to make it like punk in Chicago. And it wasn't punk in Chicago. They cheered because again, he's, a surprise that he's a name and it's his hometown and they're clapping and he gets to the ring
Starting point is 00:55:00 and when the music comes down they don't have anything to sing okay and he kept exhorting them stand up make noise he's walking around the ring as stand up stand up motion make noise he's milking it and okay and they try to work with him a little and it got old and he's He was thinking it was going to be this continuous, remember the punk thing, where punk came out in Chicago. And not just him, we've seen it a few times recently. I think AJ Stiles, a few people where the crowd really, really wanted to show them appreciation and didn't stop.
Starting point is 00:55:43 But they did here. They stopped. Yep. They stopped. And he didn't. He walked around and he held it. ear to the ear to his hand. That's a problem with leprosy.
Starting point is 00:55:58 But he held the hand to his ear. And then he's made the dramatic statement, Winnipeg. A.W. I'm home. And then left. An immediate about face from AEW fans online who suddenly love Chris Jericho again. The narrative being shifted to Chris Jericho.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Jericho chose A.E.W., which may not be entirely accurate. And it was underwhelming. Again, it was awkward, too, just the way the fireworks went off when Chivani was talking. Yeah, I'm thinking somebody misfired something because that was just odd. Right, or because that couldn't be like, this is the sign Jericho's coming back before anything. Just scare Chavani with the firework. Yeah, scared, scared Tony into fucking forgetting his own home address. He looked annoyed.
Starting point is 00:56:58 He looked like, what the fuck? Yes. Because he threw him off. And Jericho came out there. He appears to be in good shape. His face looked thinner than we've seen him in a long time. But he was expecting like a big hometown thing that wasn't there. And I don't know if it's because the surprise got out a little bit beforehand that people were expecting him there.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Or if it's because it's Chris Jeff. and it's 2026. I don't know. Well, and to be fair, here's another thing. That just because it's his hometown doesn't mean it's his hometown. How long has it been since Chris Jericho lived in Winnipeg? Again, the big hometown heroes, you think, not just punk in Chicago, but they know he lives there. The Hardee's in North Carolina have that vibe.
Starting point is 00:57:58 where they can, you know, or at least for a while there, I don't know about it lately, get, you know, the big fucking pop in North Carolina. It's, they know that Jericho now lives in Tampa or Florida or wherever the guys go to avoid paying state tax. And it's not like he's around town all the time being a fucking member of the community. So it's not like the heart. family in Calgary where there was still, you see what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:32 They were all still there. They were part of the thing. Like me in Louisville. That's what I'm saying. So. Well, Chris Jericho's big return, I don't know what he's going to do. I mean, if you look at the main event picture, assuming- Which I'm not. Assuming he'd be in the main event picture, I can't imagine him. Again, at this stage, MJF, we never need to see that again.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Kenny Omega, I don't know if that was. would be the matchup for 2026, him in 2026 Jericho. Swerve? I don't know about that. Adam Page, Osprey. That'd be a waste of Osprey. There aren't a lot of things you'd really want to see Chris Jericho, too. Not even just people who don't like AEW or problems with the way things are done there,
Starting point is 00:59:24 but if you actually just look at it objectively, where would you even slot Chris Jericho or want to see him sloth? A bicycle rack in back of the building. Stick him right in there. That way he can't do any harm to himself or others. I mean, no, no, that's, that's the thing is that again, in WWE, you get two or three, you know, matches of some legitimate profile over the course of the year with maybe a mixture of people that he has had some.
Starting point is 01:00:05 animosity with it in the past or maybe a dream mat he's never had been in ring with this guy and then have his big last match. And it would be new and fresh and interesting. Now it's just, oh, Jesus Christ, he's going to be around doing whatever with these whatever's on this whatever program regularly. Blah. Well, beggars can't be choosers. Welcome back to AW at Chris Jericho and this should be interesting.
Starting point is 01:00:35 You know what it makes me want to do. It makes me want to block out the outside world, Brian. It makes me want to block out the outside world and just listen to things that make me happy, happy, happy. And that's why I am proud to say, flowers everywhere. Flowers everywhere. Something was in her hair. In her hair. Could have been sperm.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I'm not sure. It wasn't sperm. That wasn't how the song went, Jim. In the park? I changed the ending in the park. But folks, I'll tell you what else has been changed. And that's the offer from Raycon, our friends over at Raycon, because they've been talking about the open earbuds.
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Starting point is 01:01:43 noise cancellation blocks out the background noise. You're just going to send mom on a trip. What you do is you bake some brownies at home or potentially grow some mushrooms in the backyard. Okay, let's...
Starting point is 01:01:59 And you give them to mom for Mother's Day. And then you put these earbuds in her ears and then you either hit the fucking outlaws greatest hit CD, green grass and high tides forever. Maybe if you don't want her to climb up on a roof, just play some pink Floyd, and she'll be writhing around on the floor. Okay, let's stop right there.
Starting point is 01:02:19 First of all, there's a horrible suggestions of someone was tripping. You want to say Screamadelica, maybe forever changes by love. You don't want to suggest any of the things you just suggested. Oh, for heaven's sake. We also want to say that mom, all kidding and joking aside,
Starting point is 01:02:32 because we wouldn't do anything like that to mom and that was just the funny portion of this spot at least not to our own moms but somebody else's mother might like the fucking please. All moms need to listen to good music and to drown out some of this unnecessary chatter and of course Raycon the great thing about
Starting point is 01:02:48 the Raycon earbuds and I love them. I have my pair and of course my family has stolen all my other pairs and Jim I know they're very popular in your house personal endorsement there it is well Raycon I can think
Starting point is 01:03:02 of no other unless you've got them in Swami's ears too and actually have you tried the new dog earbuds? There's no dog earbud don't make up models they've talked to us about this. But see the dogs don't care what color they are because the humans they got new colors available blush
Starting point is 01:03:18 violet, cool mint see I would think the older people would want like silver gray so it blend in with their hair but then they won't be able to find them they'll be stuck in their hair like that bird poop and sperm from the song. Okay, that wasn't in this of bird poop and sperm now in the song. Oh, well, because they're in the park.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Hell of a day in the park, yeah. Yeah, well, you know what? You take, when you go out in nature, you take these risks, Brian. I'll tell you what, add in over 3 million happy bird poop-free customers of Raycon and a 30-day happiness guarantee, along with these fine quality earbuds that have the same premium audio quality is the big brands, but at half the price, a mere smidgen a soups-on,
Starting point is 01:04:07 there is no reason to overpay when Raycons are around, and you can give them to Mom for Mother's Day. She doesn't just have to listen to trippy psychedelic music. She can listen to a podcast. She could listen to us. As a matter of fact, set the head for the earbuds on automatic so that she will automatically hear our programs. Brian, that way you can
Starting point is 01:04:30 make sure mom keeps up on all of the Jim Cornett news but she can listen to anything she wants to. She can listen to anything she wants to and so can possibly she can listen into your phone calls and find out what you know exactly what her children are doing.
Starting point is 01:04:47 It's not exactly how this works but you can listen to your phone calls. If you get a qualified phone technician to go into your house and just modify certain amounts of wiring, then You can eavesdrop on your family's phone calls on your earbuds. I have this on good authority.
Starting point is 01:05:05 So. Okay. I don't know who your authority is, but it's not my authority. Well, you need to just keep track of the family. That's what the earbuds will do for you. Give them to mom and you can keep track of everybody. Oh, you hear that sound, Jim. You know what that means?
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Starting point is 01:06:16 Buy racon.com slash J-C-E. We know Brian talking about not watching A-E-W. By the way, I've never felt so free. I mean, food tastes better and I mean, the air smells cleaner. Just going a week without that filthy, filthy habit. But there was interesting variations and reactions amongst the listeners when we said that. People have said, oh, God damn it, come on now. You know, don't do this to us because we don't want to watch the show.
Starting point is 01:06:56 we just want to hear you guys take the piss out of it, explain what doesn't make any sense, or good, now there'll be more time for good old-fashioned wrestling, but mostly kind of the self-servingness that they don't want to have to watch this shit, they want to foist it upon us, has been a response so far, would you say?
Starting point is 01:07:22 I mean, we've seen a lot of response, and a lot of people who have said good, It's about time. What took so long? And then other people who said, I used to watch it. Now I let you guys watch it. I look forward to it. And then there were other people that, you know, they really love and wait for the reviews.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And it's one of the highlights of their week. And that resonates with me when people say, like, oh, it's one of the things I look forward to on my commute. Like, I know what that's like to be in the car and have a favorite show you listen to. Well, change jobs and get a shorter. trip. How about that? The point is it's a split reaction from the audience. Well, we will continue to monitor
Starting point is 01:08:06 the situation because I told you, I said if anybody either has projectile diarrhea in the middle of the ring or accidentally does something really good, let me know. And actually, I guess Jericho was the first example of the
Starting point is 01:08:22 projectile diarrhea theory, but also something happened here I guess just a few days ago whatever the fuck it was on a show that we never watched to begin with collision now Kyle our friend Kyle Feltcher is injured now from what I'm hearing and I've seen this clip
Starting point is 01:08:44 did we know what body part yet I have not heard what body part I only heard that he was in a walking boot so that could be you know it could be anything on his low well well then to me that takes it into an ankle of some description
Starting point is 01:09:03 because what happened again the clip is going around on Twitter him and Mark Davis are wrestling these two little whoever they are and to show how big and powerful they are when we'll talk about whether Kyle's game
Starting point is 01:09:19 ought to be a power wrestler or not a minute but Davis has the power and the weight and the gravitational pull of that big giant ass behind him. But they pick them up and they slam them into each other in the middle of the ring and then they turn and they're going to give them the belly to belly kind of overhead throw suplex business to the two guys after they rammed them together. And they figured out the part of the part of. about we need to throw these guys in opposite directions so they don't land on each other. They got that part right, but they forgot about what was going to happen to their own legs
Starting point is 01:10:03 because they were so close together when they threw them overhead and fell backwards. And the way that Davis, the way he threw his guy, he was up in the air and the way that Kyle threw his guy, he was on the way, but his leg was underneath Davis. And when Davis came down, Kyle's leg was folded up underneath him. And to me, I can't believe it wasn't a catastrophic knee injury rather than a something ankle and a walking boot. Because Davis's all of his weight came down on the top of Kyle's thigh while he his leg was folded up underneath him.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And that at the very least should have snapped the posterior cruciate ligament. But they just, they come up with this shit that they, well, we're strong enough to do this. And we know, we know how to execute this move. And again, they're just making a lot of this shit up as they go. and they don't always do they tell the producers of their matches? Do the producers know any better? Some have traditionally in the past and not been listened to, but they don't think everything through from a standpoint
Starting point is 01:11:35 when there's other people involved in the ring, whatever. You see what I'm saying, Brian? I do. I mean, when I watched it, I didn't see it as much of a day. I mean, I have to watch it again, I guess. I thought it was just the way Kyle landed. I didn't realize Davis played a part in the way he landed, but let me go back and watch it again.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Well, it was both of it. They needed to be farther apart to do something like that. Yeah, it was everyone jammed in together. That's, you know, there's things that like, the old deal that Bobby and Stan or Dennis used to do as a double team move or that other people have done where the guys sitting on the top, turnbuckle and fucking the other guy, the other partner
Starting point is 01:12:22 picks the guy up like the old atomic drop position but sets him on the lap of the guy on the turnbuckles so he can do the power slam, right? You see, you remember what I'm saying. Yeah. Guys used to try to copy that but they didn't think they would take the guy right over. I've seen, I saw this happen on like a Kansas City TV.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I don't know, the rock and roll RPMs or something, they've been trying to do this. They'd take the guy over, and when they pick him up to put him on the fucking lap, the guy's feet fly up and kicks the guy who's sitting on a turnbuckle underneath the fucking chin. When we were doing this shit, especially with the job guys, but even, you know, with some of the regular guys when we would get in programs with him, we'd explain to them exactly what the midnight we're going to do and how to take it and where to be. so nobody got hurt, but, you know, especially with the job guys on television.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Like I said, the other day, when we were talking about Dennis, one time, this one guy got potatoed because we said, all you have to do is stand up straight and look at Bobby, and he stood up sideways and looked at the ground. So he got potatoed. But you have to think of the things that can happen when there's two people doing two different things at the same time and where they come together and you need more separation or you need to think about just little
Starting point is 01:13:51 20 degree changes and what we would always do is pick the guy up at a 20 degree angle from the guy sitting on the fucking turnbuckle and then turn him while his feet are already up. Shit like that. So a point being, it's just they're trying to do all this shit on the fly
Starting point is 01:14:12 and they're making it up and it's positioning. You've got to create. create more space for yourself to do shit like that. And now, who knows how long Kyle's going to be hurt at this point? Maybe they will need Jericho after all, Brian. And Kyle's the TNT champion also, so... Well, the whole company will fall apart if that lineage is disrupted, but I...
Starting point is 01:14:35 But again, you know, unfortunately, we're in an age where injuries happen more frequently than ever before, and a lot of it's based on the style or, in this case, just based on the positioning. I'm watching a video, yeah, it hits into Davis. and then he rolls out of the ring. Boom. But, you know, the other issue is because of the style and because of the rate of injuries
Starting point is 01:14:57 and the realistic, the thing you always have to be conscious of, that someone may get hurt in every single match now. I mean, it's always been the thing of wrestling, but especially now, why is the TNT champion wrestling with Davis against the rascals on collision? But again, that's maybe a bigger question.
Starting point is 01:15:15 but if Kyle's out for any significant period of time right now, you really could ask, why is this happening? But there's a reckoning coming for a lot of guys with the style they're working because the guys who are younger are getting more and more injured. And the guys who have been wrestling this style like Omega for a while are a shell of themselves right now. So you keep explaining to me that that's Okada's problem
Starting point is 01:15:41 instead of just he's a lazy somnambulistic, comat, walking around in a stupor motherfucker. And he's better off than a lot of him. Look at a bushy. Look at a bushy. People were raving about a bushy 10 years ago, and if you watched his stuff in a vacuum, it was impressive.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Now, I would argue that there was some sort of weird detachment between him and it just seemed like a guy doing a lot of moves or kicking out of stuff, and it's a guy who could do a lot of interesting things as opposed to a captivating wrestling character. but he can't walk. He can't walk, and every time we've heard about him attempt to come back or seen it, the best case scenario is he works really, really slow. But he's shot.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Ishii, he may look like Mr. Miyagi, but he's not that old. He's shot. He's shot! There's a whole generation of New Japan guys, and some of the Americans that worked on top with them where these guys are shot and they're not that old. And this is the style that these guys are one to emulate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:54 You know, it's, you know, everyone thought that the guys who copied Mick Foley would be the ones who really suffered, but, you know, it still goes back to the guys who copied Dynamite Kid and that style, and he did it better than anyone. I'm not trying to compare Dynamite Kid to some of these modern guys, but he couldn't walk. I mean, he lost a leg eventually. but he was a cripple in his 20s.
Starting point is 01:17:16 So you really have to wonder about the reckoning that will, especially for AEW, where it's all about match quality. That's all it's about. Well, I don't know if I'd say the term match quality as much as match busy. 20 minutes do everything. As long as they're busy. 20 minutes do everything you can. Pop the audience as much as you can.
Starting point is 01:17:39 You got to do something crazier than the last time you did it. and then kick out of everything. And I should bring up also, since we're talking about people that actually, we're talking about people that are injured or have been injured, now we can just reference somebody that should have been injured, but miraculously wasn't, because we're not just picking on AEW. E.O. Sky, you sent me the clip of her just diving out of the ring on her head.
Starting point is 01:18:10 And again, I don't know. how many people saw this. This was a fan cam shot. I don't know what the television shot looked like. But was this raw or Smackdown? Help me. I believe it was raw at the garden. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:27 She is running and she's going to dive through the ropes onto the opponents. And she dove and the middle rope caught her thigh just enough to slow her down and change the trajectory. she went straight to the ground. She got her hands down first, but it didn't look. And even in slow motion, you could not see through this as anything other than just an instant paralysis right in front of you. Head first on the ground, boom, flat of her back, sat up, stood up, talked to her partner
Starting point is 01:19:06 and rolled back in the ring. Again, you could have got money in Vegas. saying, this woman is paralyzed, we agree with you, whatever. And it's not, so it's not just AEW, although it happens there more often, because again, of the lack of supervision and adequate training. But it also shows that you don't know what the fuck. This is my point about wrestling and has been all along. The other day they stopped a main event between the guys
Starting point is 01:19:47 because the guy super kicked the other guy and knocked him into Neptune. And it looked like a nice super kick, but didn't look like anything that would even be a potato. It was just one of those things. It was, but it didn't appear visually abnormal in any way. This girl dives through the ropes, lands on her head on a padded, yes, but still concrete surface, and gets right up and goes on. So you never know what the real shot looks like and what really can do damage,
Starting point is 01:20:27 which goes back to what I've always said unless we tell them if something looks tight enough to be legitimate but doesn't have to be legitimate, and you sell it, anything could fucking be it. Do you see what I'm saying, Brian? You really can't tell when it's real. So if who knows what a vertical suplex feels like walking around in public? Who knows what the goddamn any move feels like
Starting point is 01:21:05 in a wrestling ring unless you tell them by getting right up because it didn't hurt you at all. all. That's my point. Well, again, the injuries are more frequent. The E.O. Sky thing was pretty scary. And it was on a dive that didn't mean anything, because that's what dives are now. I saw a clip the
Starting point is 01:21:24 other day, and again, you can't go back in time. But you can still acknowledge stuff. It was Tiger Mask versus Mr. Saito, I believe, WWF TV, I think late 82. And it was the first time anyone
Starting point is 01:21:42 in that building and more than likely anyone watching that show at home saw someone run from one side of the ropes to the other and dive over the top rope with a crossbody. And Tiger Mask had a way of doing it where it looked, it looked dangerous or it didn't look smooth. His feet were like behind him. You know what I mean? Like you never looked smooth.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It looked like, man, this could go a lot of different ways. People jumped out of their seats. They went crazy. I don't know if Tiger Mass did that move again when he wrestled on WWFTV because he had more than one match. I'm not saying you can go back in time to a point where no one had ever seen anything before
Starting point is 01:22:22 but when there are dives in every match all the time and sometimes oftentimes they don't even look good it looks like someone just went through the ropes and pushed someone a little bit. Yeah. That doesn't even look good. So a lot of things now that are unnecessarily coin of the realm
Starting point is 01:22:42 because no one will miss it if it's not there are the things that are going to cause the injuries. That EO Sky injury? It's not, I can't say injury. Bump? Where the fan, you say it was fan cam footage, the fan was saying, oh no, oh no, oh my God, oh no, because it looked like a broken neck.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And we don't know what damage of any was, you know, caused there or happened there, but it's a scary time. You're going to see a lot more just freak injuries all the time, I think, though. But anyway, see, we saw all that stuff and didn't have to sit through two and a half hours of goddamn misery for AEW's benefit. Did you hear about the main event of dynamite? Oh, good Lord, yes. And here's another, MJF versus spitball Bailey was the main event.
Starting point is 01:23:37 And again, is AEW being an entity, as Uncle Dave always says, well, it's good for the wrestling business because they'll drive the salaries up and the boys get more money so it's good for the wrestling business. Is it good for the wrestling business or is it good for those guys business? Is it good for the guys, whether it be the WW guys or the AEW guys that get paid more money because if they're, They're worth the shit. The WWE wants to keep them.
Starting point is 01:24:12 And if the billionaire wants to add them to the toy chest, he's going to bid it up. But that's still going to be a finite group of guys in the entire wrestling business. And what does that mean for the fans? So it's good for the guys' business, but it's not good for the wrestling business. And again, with MJ, I've said, it's the same principle as Jericho.
Starting point is 01:24:39 could have done the retirement tour with a couple of matches and the Hall of Fame thing in the WWE and gone back to the scene of his greatest triumphs and the most people would have seen it. And it made a bunch of money with merchandise and the pay-per-views of the premium live events and blah, blah, blah. Or he could stay and just be on a bad television show doing bad shit himself on a regular basis
Starting point is 01:25:04 for a few million dollars more from the mark. in the same thing. We're losing potential talent as fans and as the business, as an entirety. When MJF is now apparently stuck there forever, and we've said after the pay-per-view, obviously, gobble, gobble, one of us, one of us. I said at the time, I said, he doesn't have enough pull in the company to just flat out say, I'm not doing the syringe spot.
Starting point is 01:25:42 He doesn't have the pull here to say, I'm just not going to lower myself as your world champion to have a competitive match with this fucking rib on national television. He's one of them. He's going to do it. He's going to take the money. And then he's going to go to Hollywood or just go home
Starting point is 01:26:05 because Tony Lompey millions of millions of dollars. But the wrestling, business lost a talent that could have prospered at an even greater pace, not financially possibly, but because he's been stuck there. Kyle, Kyle is, now he's hurt, but even before he was hurt, I've mentioned this before, he's wasting so much potential. The longer he's in that indie-minded group where he doesn't learn how to put a match together, that makes sense and just spams, moves, as the kids say.
Starting point is 01:26:44 And the longer he's not in an environment where there's a professional booking process, even if it may not always be great, at least there's a process there. And he could understand things and learn and expand. He's going to be there doing tag team matches on collision, having fat guys land on his fucking body parts. the business and the fan's enjoyment of it will not prosper in the long run because one of the companies
Starting point is 01:27:19 that has major distribution is owned by an indie-minded fucking guy that thinks he's a booker but it'll drive the salaries up for the boys involved but it won't be good for the business because talent like MJF and Kyle and other people will not ever see their full potential. Does this make sense to you that nobody's talking about?
Starting point is 01:27:49 Well, I mean, I think it's obviously a choice to stay with AEW. It says a lot about the wrestler who makes that choice. You know, it's not like WW, like you said, it's not an even, oh, yeah, they're offering the same amount of money. WW will come in less and tell you about opportunities still. But, you know, I don't know. it's hard to, with MJF, it's hard to defend all the stuff we've seen and just say, you know, he doesn't have the pull to, sometimes you, at some point you got to say,
Starting point is 01:28:17 maybe he wants to do it. Maybe he wants, that's what I'm saying. Maybe he wants to wrestle speedball. You can't tell me that he couldn't have stood up if he wanted to. But that's the thing. If you're already fully formed, you've been a star, you've been at the top of the fucking business, and you want to come as a retirement plan and take. Tony's money, that's one thing.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Fine and dandy. But I think it hurts the overall wrestling business when young guys get stuck there making a ton of money and never learning anything or getting as good as they could be or contributing
Starting point is 01:28:55 to the fans and the overall business's fucking enjoyment and pleasure just and not accomplishing shit that they could accomplish in their personal lives because they are having this ridiculous amount of money dangled in front of them that no other person, place or thing, would ever pay them or has ever paid them before or would ever pay them again.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I can understand why that's a, you know, but if you get into like a sport in the Olympics and you have the drive to succeed, or even if you want to be the best rock, star or the best actor in Hollywood or whatever. If you have the drive to be the best, if somebody comes and says, well, tell you what, we'll give you 100 grand to be the best in the world or we'll give you two million dollars to be the fifth best. I don't know. Well, MJF towered over speedball, so at least he got to be the big man in the match.
Starting point is 01:30:04 And, you know, speedball looks ridiculous. It's ridiculous. when he tries to come out there and deepen his voice and intimidate people, isn't it? And he's so nerdy in the process that nobody ever would actually speak that way except him in his head. Well, promos may not be his strong suit.
Starting point is 01:30:26 But also, you know, again, going back to the thing, even if he really was the biggest badass of all time, which I don't buy. But even if he was, he's five foot six, He's 150 pounds. It doesn't work. To their fans, they like it, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:45 look at all the bad shit their fans have liked over the last several years. They still defend Orange Cassidy. But speedball, you know, to me, I think sometimes, I think there have been times you've been too hard on people, but this one, I can't find any disagreement with you. If there was a junior, junior heavyweight division, I'd be okay with it. It needs to be a junior missed division.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Either way, if it was other people that size, I'd be okay with it. There are no other people that size. But again, to pass him off as being this kung fu expert, even if he was, it doesn't look right. It doesn't pass the eye test. Well, you know, something else I'm looking at. Brian, you sent me some information, and this, it looks like an eye chart. it's a map of Wembley Stadium with a dot where every seat that's been sold is. And I think I need some ocular help because I don't see very many.
Starting point is 01:31:51 We speculated on this last week when we talked about the number of tickets they sold on the first day and how it compared with previous years events there in the building. And I said, how, why, why are they undertaking this massive expense to run this building that they know that they were not going to, they, they did it once the first time and that was great. And then they did it again and they're okay. And why would you do this? Why would you spend this money? It's not necessary. They, do you know what the capacity?
Starting point is 01:32:29 The total number of seats in Wembley Stadium is for a wrestling cell. up, I guess, if you opened everything up, Brian. Take a guess at the number. 85,000. 93,556. Do you know what they set the stadium up for for this wrestling event when they put the tickets on sale? 78,000.
Starting point is 01:33:03 36,77. before they even knew how many tickets they were going to sell, they rented a 95,000 seat stadium and set it up to hold 37,000 people. And then, as we mentioned, they sold 19,000 some on the first day. Now, in the last, I guess, a week or 10 days that it's been or whatever,
Starting point is 01:33:35 they're at 21,896. So basically they're at 22,000 for a setup of 36,000 in a stadium that holds almost 94,000. And somebody brought up that Tony's dad, Shad the dad. Shad the dad. My dad, Shad. My dad, Shad. They have a stadium that they're, their football over there, the European football team plays in that holds like 35,000 people.
Starting point is 01:34:17 And they could have just had it at their fucking stadium. But he had to rent Wembley Stadium because it's cool. Your thoughts, if any. I don't know. If you're Tony, why don't you just go hire the hottest band that sells tickets right now for like one night and make it rock and wrestling? get a full house. The Great American Bash.
Starting point is 01:34:45 But with a budget. But the Great English Bash. The Great British Bash. I wonder what Delbert McClinton and David Allen Coe are doing these days. I bet he can get them really easy. You should put Grado.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Apparently Grado draws better in England and AEW does. Or the Hydro in Scotland. And let's be fair. nothing to sneeze at selling 21,000 advance tickets for your show. That is an accomplishment, but obviously it doesn't have the enthusiasm behind it that it had either of the two previous times or was it Texas last year or was it the last Wembley? It may have been Texas where they
Starting point is 01:35:30 actually did have a big walk-up and they got to around 30. Am I thinking of the right thing? Yes, because that was because they didn't do, it was all in Texas last year because they didn't do all in Wembley, all in London, whatever the fuck it is. All empty. The point is, no, it's nothing. It's nothing to sneeze at to sell 22,000 tickets except when you've rented a 95,000 seat building. And from, as we illustrated the other day, from history, from just comparing the
Starting point is 01:36:04 previous events, based on the amount of tickets sold the first week and the first day versus the rest of the lead-up time, they ain't going to get to 30,000 paid just by the percentages of previous shows. And what, you know, it's one of the biggest stadiums in the world. It's going to look like a piss hole in a snowbank. And why would you spend that money?
Starting point is 01:36:37 Just this is like a goddamn Paul Alperstein type of deal. Remember the AWF? Were you old enough? Oh, I used to watch it every week on CBS. It was awful. When they started their tapings, it was a rib because he did them in Chicago at some kind of studio there, and he paid a thousand people, 20 bucks each, to come in and be the audience to cheer and boo in the right places. And we were, because that was the first time in history that anything like that had ever been done, where you paid people to come. and we said it was the first negative $20,000 house
Starting point is 01:37:12 in pro wrestling history. It's just just paying to be in a building. Just paying extra money to be in a building. Should Tony do a WrestleMania 7 and announce that due to the ongoing war, seemingly everywhere on the planet right now, that he has security concerns. Can't be in Wembley Stadium.
Starting point is 01:37:34 It'll be at Wembley Arena. It can't be at Royal Albert Hall. be at the Royal Albert Mall. I think it might be at the Uncle Albert Admiral Halsey Mall. Ah, very good. Hands across my face. Yeah, hands.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Hands in my dad's pockets. Hands in my dad's pockets, pockets, pockets. Pockets! Hands across the... Anyhow. That's all now. See, it gets better. After it sinks in on you.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Tweedle-ed a little, Lipsy-Didoo. All right. Little Tuddy wants to spend it all around. We're being silly, but that's so that's going to be a big pay-per-view, too. So, you know where the pay-per-view will pay the extra rent. I told you, and you disagreed to me,
Starting point is 01:38:33 Ram was his best album, and this is from Ram, and you talked about there were silly songs on Ram. I guess you could technically consider this a silly song, but fuck the hooks. It's like nonstop. He just has hooks. Well, that's where he got that scar on his cheek. He had an itch and forgot about the hook.
Starting point is 01:38:52 That's the second Paul. The first Paul didn't have any scars. It was after they switched pauls. Well, that's an old pirate joke. You know where a pirate keeps his buccaneers? Where is that? Under his bucking hat. That's an old Norman Frederick Charles,
Starting point is 01:39:10 third joke. So, so anyway, so that's how they're doing over there at Wembley for all of the... Well, that was dynamite. Yeah, that was dynamite. We got rid of that. Hey, did you see the photo of Sargent at Arms of the Cult of Cornette, Nick Barrett with Mercedes Monet? Yes, he did the photo up there. He's wearing the Cult of Cornette beret, the white sash, he has a pin on the And a saber! And a saber! Somehow they let them walk the streets with that, and it says, Today I spend some times with Mercedes Vernado, that's her Twitter handle and her name, walking the halls of the Manitoba Museum.
Starting point is 01:39:53 We spoke on many topics, and I wished her luck in her battle tonight versus Jody Threat. She didn't like some of my advice, but handled it in a professional manner. And you know what? She posed for these two photos, so I got to give her credits. We heard from that one listener who went to an Orange Cassidy photo op, and Orange Cassidy was a complete prick to him because of the Jim Cornett T-shirt. And she, give her credit, she went, we've seen photos of her where she's five feet away from the people who paid to take photos with her. She went right up to give me the thumbs down, though.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Oh, but she went right to the man with the saber. How do they let him walk the halls of any music? See, that's the thing. He looks so official. because the outfit does have the balance, has the ambiator, you've got the official-looking saber, or beret, rather. You've got the beret and the sash, and it's so bright, and it's obvious that white stands for good,
Starting point is 01:40:51 so you're some type of militia person on the side of good, and then the saber just kind of completes it, and you don't really question it. It looks so authoritative. Did he change his last name to Nick Burray? Maybe he did. Well, it's still winding its way through the courts. Well, that's the news of Mercedes-Mone's personal appearances.
Starting point is 01:41:14 I don't know if a photo of her and Nick will be in Mercedes-Menn-N-Muh, will be in Monet Mag. But Jim, a lot of the listeners are wondering, and I'll admit I am too, are we watching the AEW pay-per-view event that's coming up, that obviously they're building up on this show that you're no longer watching. Well, I didn't know what's coming up now. It's dynasty. Oh,
Starting point is 01:41:38 another of my ideas that he stole. Remember in 1982 when I had the dynasty of champions? And 1983, too, the dynasty of champions. Then he find internationally known names, the exotic Adrian Street,
Starting point is 01:41:55 the angel, Frank Morel, the bounty hunter, Jerry Novak, the aforementioned Norman Frederick Charles III. Jesse Barr, Apocalypse, the Soldier of Fortune. Household names were in the dynasty of champions. When is this thing? This thing will be Sunday, April 12th.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Oh, Christ. In Vancouver, British Columbia at the Rogers Arena. You know, Vancouver is a lovely town. It's my favorite place in Canada. If it wasn't so far and it wasn't Canada, I would go back there. But I've always enjoyed being there when I was there before, never to return. What are they going to do this time that they didn't do last time?
Starting point is 01:42:42 People were electrocuted. A guy was impaled. There were numerous examples of severe blood loss. A bunch of people broke a bunch of things. What are they, are they advertising a live disembowelment on this program? What is trying to entice us to watch this hours and hours? of repetitive horse ship. And I remind you, we are, as we are recording more than a week away from the event,
Starting point is 01:43:11 and Tony likes to add a lot of matches in the last, like, day or two, sometimes the last hours leading into the show. So we don't have everything. But so far, for the pre-show, Marina Shafir versus Alex Windsor. That's Alex Mountbatten Windsor to you. Show some respect. Well, do you think she'll mount Marina here? I don't know if she can make it over the hump.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I would suggest that possibly one would top the other, but then it just depends on who wants to engage in some reverse cowgirl. I can't think of any more double entendre puns. So I'll just go straight to naming sexual positions. See, this is the pre-show. So the answer to our question is, easy. We don't have to watch this because we never do. Jim, in a match for the tag team championship, the champion's FTR versus
Starting point is 01:44:14 cope and cage. What on the, this is not the pre-show. No, and this is now the main show. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, cope and cage or copen seed? Uh, my God, are you past it? Are you over it? And I mean, I again, appreciate what Dax did with the GoFundMe for Teresa and et cetera, and I'm not talking about anybody personally here, but they shot an angle for this six months ago, and then the baby faces just went away,
Starting point is 01:44:49 even though they weren't the injured ones. And in the meantime, and in between time, does anybody give a shit about FTR and their fake manager anymore? No. It's in Vancouver. It's in Canada. This will be the match of the night.
Starting point is 01:45:06 All right. We'll see if Vancouver likes some Toronto boys. Jim. Oh, by the way, prediction. Do you have a prediction for that match? No, I don't know what the fuck they're going to do, and they probably all don't either. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:45:20 And if it's up to the whims of Tony, it may be, you know, what is adderol dosage is that particular day. Jim, for the Continental Championship, the champion John Moxley versus Will, Osprey. Oh, two of their top
Starting point is 01:45:41 baby faces, except that the one baby face was a heel until it became a baby face, but then when they remembered that their other baby face that was coming back from injury, had to get even with the guy that hurt him, who was also a baby face,
Starting point is 01:45:54 so he just became a heel again for no reason. Yeah. What titles it for? The Continental Championship. that ah nobody is going to interfere if nobody's going to interfere
Starting point is 01:46:10 that if Osprey doesn't win this fucking match then they're all out of their fucking minds how about that well Jim in a match where if Darby Allen wins he receives a future world championship match Darby Allen versus Andrade L. Italo
Starting point is 01:46:31 oh boy I don't honestly care again Darby, I was going to say it might be a worthwhile stipulation if Darby loses, they commit him to some type of involuntary psychiatric analysis. That I could get behind. But otherwise, eh.
Starting point is 01:46:54 For the AWW women's championship, Jim, the champion Tecla versus Jamie Hater. Hater. No, she remember when she was kind of good once before she became the transgender loved child of Ronald McDonald.
Starting point is 01:47:15 I don't know if that's a fair thing. I don't know what's happening over there, but yeah, I don't care. All right, finally, Jim, for the AEW World's Championship,
Starting point is 01:47:30 MJF, the champion versus Kenny Omega. Well, let's see. We've got a world champion who, apparently by the description and length of the match the night on television, it took everything that he could to beat a fucking fifth grade karate class kid.
Starting point is 01:47:54 But Kenny is a broken down shell of a human being with that who's, I mean, all of his internal organs, his bladder is spleen, his kidneys, his uterus, they could all fall out his asshole at any minute. So, I think MJF will retain, and basically we all know where this is going, so Osprey can win the title in Wembley.
Starting point is 01:48:21 And if it ain't going there, then again, they're all fucking nuts. Well, that's the fucking nuts, AEW Dynasty coming on Sunday, April 12th on pay-per-view, or wherever you stream or whatever it is you do. are we watching you? I know I'd like to stream on some of their pay-per-view MJF and Omega is a big match. Are we watching it? Let's see what happens. What needs to happen to change your mind
Starting point is 01:48:49 from whatever it is right now? I don't know, some goddamn horrible newsmaking thing, like the ring lights fall in the middle of the fucking finish and just crush the ring and everybody in it. I'll talk about that. But will you watch it? Will you order it? You know, that almost happened in chat.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Atanuga one night at the old Memorial Auditorium, about 10 minutes before they were going to ring the bell. The fucking cable broke and the ring lights just fell right in the ring. Oh, my God. Boom, went to ring lights. When was that? Back in the Nick Gullis days, early 70s. Nobody was in the ring yet, but it was only by about 10 or 12 minutes. Did you ever get to see someone kick out a light bulb on a backdrop?
Starting point is 01:49:34 of actually i am trying to think if i'm early on probably in a place in arkansas or some small spot show in the memphis territory i remember a guy kicking the fucking apparatus that the the ring lights were and i can't remember who it was and i think ricky gibson used to used to get some of them on the southern end of the territory with his backdrops because his feet went straight up. But the Sputnik-Manroo backdrop contest was a work because after Sputnik bet the rest of the locker room in Shreveport that night, that none of them could kick the ring lights. He was in the main event.
Starting point is 01:50:22 And that was the old Shreveport Memorial Auditorium. There was a stage hand there. He went and gave the guy 20 bucks to fucking during intermission for his match, lower the fucking deal like three or four feet. He went out there and kicked it on the first try and won everybody's money. Well, will they be getting your money? One last chance here.
Starting point is 01:50:43 No, I don't know. I'm not convinced. I may keep my money. I may not fucking give them my, you know what I may do with my money, Brian? I may put my money in my brand new Ridge wallet. That's what I may do with my money.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Because that way it's going to be safe. And that way also, they can't pull any of the money. electronic space age technology mumbo jumbo on me and try to penetrate and orchestrate into my wallet and get all of my information like thieves in the night with these electronic means because the Ridge wallets also have RFID blocking technology. That means rotten fucking individuals and D. they're blocking those.
Starting point is 01:51:37 That's not what that means. I don't know what that, I don't know where you came up with that. RFID blocking technology because they can't, there's a thing called a digital pickpocketer where they have this electronic wand, it looks something like a vibrator you used to buy over at Hot Topic. Or maybe it's Spencer's gifts back in the day.
Starting point is 01:51:58 But what it's got is it's got a fidget in the top of it that automatically, electronically, magnetically, steals all your credit card information as soon as they stick this thing in the vicinity of your ass. That's why that there's been a rash of people walking down the street lately, just taking this thing that looks like a vibrator from Spencer's gifts and sticking it in the vicinity of people's asses because they're drawing magnetically their credit card information out of their wallets that most people carry in the vicinity of their asses, Brian, don't you know this? I don't know what you're saying, but I think what we could say is your information and your cards will be safe with Ridge.
Starting point is 01:52:37 That's what we can say. Well, yes, because we've talked about the Ridge Power Bank, where you can plug it, you can plug your phones in, you can plug your laptop in, you can plug all your devices in, you can, you know, jumpstart your goddamn vibrators. But Ridge made their name and made themselves famous by making the most secure and sturdy and long-lasting wallet in the world, the unique slim, modern design, holds up to 12 credit cards or ID cards or whatever, cards of various natures, plus cash, if you've got any. It's made with premium materials like aluminum,
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Starting point is 01:53:58 get back to the main topic here, which is a wallet I've come to love, and we think the listeners have, we know a lot have, we've heard from them already, the great Ridge wallet. Yes, and losing your wallet is a horrible thing, too, but with the Ridge Tracker card, you're always going to know exactly where it is, because you can just track that in the tracker mode. And that way, here's another thing, let's say, for example, that you have a feeling that your spouse is running around, get them a ridge wallet and sign up for the tracker mode, and then they got a beeper in their pocket.
Starting point is 01:54:33 You can keep track of them. And on the special screen, it looks like a kind of a Pac-Man type of device. You can see Ms. Pac-Man going to meet her boyfriend. And then when they're having sex, that means she's gobbling up. Okay. Let's. Let's, let's, and that way you know, it's like your own, your own private detective. in the pocket.
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Starting point is 01:56:26 they love to hear the feedback from the cult of cornet and it'll save you money on the most durable secure this is like just sticking your whole ass area in Fort Knox or in some kind of safe but when they close the door it doesn't pinch your ass cheeks and you can still have your head out in public to breathe but your money is locked up tight in your ass unless you happen to carry your wallet in your hat
Starting point is 01:56:54 there's nothing wrong with that except you look kind of stupid wearing a hat these days. Jim, there's a great deal and a great promo code. Let's do it. J-C-E-at-Ridge.com. All righty, well, speaking of people's wallets, Brian, everybody ought to be reaching into theirs right now because you know what's going on?
Starting point is 01:57:17 We are in that odd timing phase where we are recording this immediately before the ring-worn merchandise goes on, sale at Jim Cornett.com that we've been talking about for the past few weeks. So I can't give you an update, even though you're not going to hear about this until afterwards, but I would suggest just go to Jim Cornett.com, click on collectibles to, I've cleaned the closet out besides the jackets and the shirts and the pants. You know, I don't dress up too much anymore, Brian.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Now that I'm, I used to be a man of the road, a hobo by name. I didn't seek entertainment, just poultry and games. and somebody else that could kick the shit out of Speedball Bailey as fucking Leo Sayer. But anyway, come on, now you're pushing it. Now you're pushing it. No, I think he'd gouged the eye. He's gouged the eye. They are the same size.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Funny enough. They are the same size, yes. But Sayer's hair was more entertaining. Nevertheless, I don't need the suits and the jackets and things like I used to because I'm not on the road anymore as well as the last remaining few rackets and my hall of Fame 2017 WWF Hall of Fame Inductor shoes and eyeglasses. You can see the world
Starting point is 01:58:38 through my eyes finally. I'm hammering on the desk again, aren't I? See, because I'm a very animated son of a bitch. Gene Krupa Cornett. There you go. Well, at least I'm not Buddy Rich, that prick. But nevertheless, so if you go to Jim Cornet.com right now, you'll see what remains of these things. And like I said, a couple of sets of eyeglasses. All of my eyeglasses, I've now realized when I laid them out all together,
Starting point is 01:59:07 the ones that I've had, I never changed the frames but one time. Otherwise, I've had the exact same looking glasses for 40 years. Have you noticed this, or have you ever paid any... Have you just stared at my face ever? Not to this extent, but... now that I think about it, I can't imagine you. I mean, I think maybe a couple of times I saw you in sunglasses on TV, but... Yeah, like gimmick glasses is...
Starting point is 01:59:34 But, I mean, actually, for me to be able to see... Why don't you change it up? Why don't you go for, like, the John Lennon look? No, Stacey had me get a pair, one time, the frame... The frames around the lenses were, like, much smaller than the ones that I've always had always. And I got them as a second pair, and I put those things on twice. could see all the way around them and it it put me off so bad i put i don't even know where they are now i might have tossed them i was they fucking aided it she said well they look good on you
Starting point is 02:00:06 but i can't know i can't i need to see but one time i changed in well the the incident happened in nineteen eighty five so i would assume that i got them in probably late eighty four because i didn't have them long but i've always been got the same frames, like I said, but this time I was getting new glasses and I saw these and they looked cool. They had the frame on the top of the glasses, right, to the earpieces. And then you could see no frame. It was just like the lens had no bottom on it. And it looked cool to me at the time. I didn't think it through properly. There was a little fishing line that went around. a little nylon or plastic cord, whatever the cord was,
Starting point is 02:01:01 in a groove in the lens. And it just went right to the nose piece there and boom. So it was a nice look, right? I got these fucking things. And I didn't have, it was in Dallas. I got them in Dallas. The fancy Dan, I'm a young man about town in Dallas, right? Fucking, I'm going to get different glasses.
Starting point is 02:01:25 That's what it was, because I didn't have these things three months probably until the first time we went to St. Louis, where we got booked out to do that thing from Dallas, I'm standing there in the Kiel Auditorium and bang! What of those things popped in the goddamn my lens just fell in the floor? And I'm like, what the fuck? And now I'd fixed them before where if the frame got loose, you could tighten the little screw, right?
Starting point is 02:01:54 but how the fuck I don't have any fishing line what am I going to do I'm blind right and I'm thinking how the fuck am I going to get home because once that you know I mean out at the ring is one thing but actually to function in daily society I can't fucking see and guess who came to my rescue Brian a St. Louis wrestling personality personality in Dallas I don't remember I was in Dallas but we got booked into St. Louis his first time I'm a St. Louis wrestling person So it's a St. Louis wrestling personality.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Who else wore the same glasses as you? Harry White. No. Oh, really? You are incorrect. Linda Rufa. Oh, Linda Rufa. Linda Rufa, the lovely ringside photographer in St. Louis.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Her stuff was published in the Japanese magazine. and Aptor used her and she... She went everywhere. If you see any footage from the 80s and 90s with a good-looking woman shooting photos and you're like, where did that come from? Yes. She was an anomaly in the wrestling business
Starting point is 02:03:07 because all of the other photographers were ugly male individuals like me and Heyman and fucking Apter and everybody else. And she was not only a female photographer, but she looked like a cross between a female Mick Jagger and Steve Perry kind of like. It was amazing. It all worked. She was just gorgeous.
Starting point is 02:03:36 I don't know. Not now, but when they were young. Stephen Tyler. Or Stephen Tyler. I'm sorry, not Steve Perry. Stephen Tyler and Mick Jagger type,
Starting point is 02:03:45 but she was gorgeous. And she had some type of fake fingernail glue. and she said, oh, let me see. And she stuck the lens in there and put the plastic thing around it and put this fingernail glue on it. And it got me back to Dallas so I could go get a proper pair of fucking glasses again.
Starting point is 02:04:06 And that's the only time I've ever changed my glasses in... So the difference in the ones on sale is basically the amount of green from where my sweat turned the goddamn finish green around the edge. That's the only difference.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Linda Rufa. And boy, she turned me green around the edges every once in a while too. Still hiding from Dr. Mike Lino, I assume. Speaking of being green around the edges. Good Lord. What I wonder, whatever happened to Linda Rufa, she doesn't, hasn't been to the fan fest that, or the reunions or things and such in modern times that I've seen. No, she hasn't. I mean, I don't know, respectfully. I don't know. respectfully, I don't know if anyone, I mean, maybe actually if you built it up, I was going to say,
Starting point is 02:04:54 I don't know who would want her autograph, but maybe actually. Well, I don't mean to come as, I mean to just, I see a lot of, I've seen a lot of photographers and miscellaneous ringside personnel come to fan fest without having to be the center of attention and being paid to sign autographs, but you never, you never see her here from Linda Ruf for these days. Maybe she's hiding from Dr. Mikelano. And she may be hiding from the whole goddamn wrestling business, which we may have to also hide from the whole goddamn business. I picked the wrong week to quit AEW, didn't I? You know, WW is not doing themselves any favors.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Before we get to Smackdown, I mean, this is your show, we could do whatever you want. Well, I'm open to suggestions. Have you heard the news about, I mean, it's not a big deal, but they announced John Sina will be the host of WrestleMania this year. John Cena who just went away who hasn't had enough time to go away he hadn't even got there or where he was going yet he's back
Starting point is 02:05:59 what do you think about the idea that he'd be hosting WrestleMania this year and is anyone going to buy a ticket for that reason no really nobody's going to buy a ticket right now except people that are pretty goddamn close to Las Vegas they are not they are suffering the the chickens coming home to roost of some of the weird
Starting point is 02:06:27 decisions they've made in a variety of places over the last year and one of them is going back to the same goddamn place whether Las Vegas is a big deal to them or not and I them I'm talking about the TKO brain trust and all of the top muckety mucks. It's in the middle of the fucking desert, and you just were there last year. And you combine that with people having to mortgage their children and their gold fillings to buy a ticket to see this crap.
Starting point is 02:07:07 And then you combine that with, I don't know that the wrestling fans want to see 18 goddamn celebrities, in the ring and on the TV shows on a daily basis. And then you combine that with what the fuck are they thinking just on the entire booking of the blah, blah, blah. And then you add that they're snake bit on people being injured and or out of commission and the key building periods. And so now they're doing everything they can do
Starting point is 02:07:45 to sell these tickets. And there's nothing wrong with, I'm about to answer your question, there's nothing wrong with John Sina being the host of WrestleMania, but you've just there, you've used another, you've fired another warning shot in the air
Starting point is 02:08:03 and you're running out of bullets when the fucking invaders are coming up the drive. It's not going to help, and you could have saved it for something else, because he just, fucking left. He just left, and that's the thing. This whole concept of the host of WrestleMania is one of the stupid Vince McMahon ideas during the years of desperation. I think
Starting point is 02:08:25 the Rock may have been like the first, or one of the first, like, host of WrestleMania to get him out there. So what's Sina going to do? Mere months after retiring to incredible fanfare. He's just going to come out, dressed like John Sina, and run to the ring and do a promo for 15 minutes to start to show or have a funny interaction with Steve Austin or Danhausen or whatever it may be. It's desperation and it's not a good idea. I did want to mention to you, independent of WWE and WWE ticket prices, let alone WrestleMania prices. Write an article in the New York Times the other day. I'll just read you the headline. A downturn in Las Vegas could signal tough times for the nation.
Starting point is 02:09:11 Well, I forgot to mention the whole Las Vegas thing falling in a hole, so go ahead. The high rollers may still be crowding the tables, but high prices and pinch discretionary incomes are driving a sharp drop-off in visitors to Las Vegas as Nevada's governor runs for re-election. So, WrestleMania aside, Vegas itself is struggling right now more than it has at least 20 years, maybe longer. And what country also, since we're piling this on and all these different reasons why they should have gone to goddamn New Orleans or whatever, how, what country does the WWE have more fans in than anywhere except the United States off the top of your head?
Starting point is 02:10:00 I would say Canada off the top of my head, but I don't know. You there, guess who don't want to go to goddamn the United States, Canadians? Yeah, big drop off and tour. from Canada. That's right. I think they said 20% in Vegas or was that 20% nationwide that Canadian tourism is down because of Schittler
Starting point is 02:10:22 and the things he said about them. And then you combine that now when nobody ain't going to Las Vegas as we sit here for shows two weeks away when once again Schindler has started a war to
Starting point is 02:10:37 distract from his other discretion. and gasoline is over $4 a gallon for no fucking apparent reason except that. And the airlines are charging surcharge and blah, blah, blah. Who's going to say, I'm going to go to Las Vegas. Do you want to fly anywhere? I mean, I know you don't want to fly in general, but right now I don't want to get anywhere near an airport.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Well, yes, because also then you have to invest six hours of standing in a line in the major airports because of Schittler I mean could I go on do you think they should call him and say hey dip shit now you're hurting our business and we're your maggot friends but it's all i mean this is it's a miracle that they have as many tickets sold as they've got with all of the shitty creative and the shitty conditions and the repetitious nature of the goddamn Las Vegas and the line up and the actual matches that they've apparently been building up other than Brock and Oba. Nothing has that level of buzz.
Starting point is 02:11:46 Punk and Roman's all right. But even that... Punk and Roman is pretty strong based on the promos. People want to see that. Oba and Brock, I think, has the most... Ooh, shivers. And but Orton and Rhodes that they have saved all this time that should be overshed. everything based on the mentor pupil relationship, the families.
Starting point is 02:12:15 How many videotapes do they have of Cody's father kicking a shit out of Randy's father? I don't know, actually. I don't know if there would be that many now that I think about it. They got Florida fucking, they got the Florida library. But how often would Dusty and Bob Orton Jr.? I don't know, that's actually a great question. Dusty would have kicked a shit out of Bob Orton Jr. A number of times in the late 70s in Florida.
Starting point is 02:12:41 But point being the story they could tell for 15 fucking years and the whole nine yards is, and there's more than one royal family and professional wrestling. Is it named McAfee? Well, we'll get the smackdown in a moment. I know we're going to get to it. But point I'm making is that they've just made Cody and Orton
Starting point is 02:13:05 less attractive to, I think, to a lot of people. I think that's one of the big things you've seen from everyone, and I guess this has turned less about John Cena hosting mania, just about the build of WrestleMania. Everyone kind of agrees it was a natural storyline that was there. It didn't have to be, and it shouldn't have been complicated. It was a very simple thing. For months or maybe over a year, I've been saying whenever they get to Cody and Orton.
Starting point is 02:13:34 That's right. and they've got to it, and somebody else got to it. So they're lucky they've got what they've sold for WrestleMania, and they ought to just fucking end. I can't imagine that they are not trying to figure out a backup plan for next year, and they better not go back to Las Vegas. I don't think they can, and I don't know if they're going to be able to go to Saudi Arabia. If things don't rapidly improve in the Middle East,
Starting point is 02:14:05 so there may be another story next year about WrestleMania. But here's, you know what, here's the, if things don't rapidly improve in the middle, I don't care if everything calms down by July. As that, would you as a famous American, a television star in America, want to attend a highly publicized event or be a part of a highly publicized event
Starting point is 02:14:32 in a major stadium anywhere close to goddamn Iran for quite some time to come. And they actually got a missile into Riyadh, I believe, or close by not too long ago. So, you know, I wouldn't. I would have a problem realistically right now being a major star doing a stadium show anywhere,
Starting point is 02:14:54 and that's just my nerves because of what's going on, but no way I'm doing it over there. And I don't know if there could be a mutiny. And enough people could say we're not doing it. but WWE's going to have to deal with that issue very soon because if you do move WrestleMania where are you going to bring it? You can't go back to Vegas a third year.
Starting point is 02:15:14 There's no way. No way, no way. But they better call New Orleans or whatever because again, I'm sorry, but fuck you. I don't care how much money I'm making at any job. We have just pissed off the most fanatical revenge-want son of a bitch on the planet by just bombing the fuck out of them and killing half of their goddamn main religious fanatics and they're probably going to want to get even for about a hundred
Starting point is 02:15:46 more years to come. Those things last over there quite a while, those Middle East grudges. Brian, you've read about them in the papers. A hundred years would be a short one. Yeah, that would be just a fucking, a quick one in and out, like the fucking. So anyway. That is the build of WrestleMania. Why don't we get to
Starting point is 02:16:06 WWE Smackdown, an interesting addition coming off a raw, which had a lot of big moments, although some that were questionable, like the Cody Stephanie segment, and this was one of the more astounding episodes of Smackdown I've ever seen, and if I was someone really into
Starting point is 02:16:24 WWE, I'd be very worried right now about the creative decisions that are being made. Well, it was an outstanding episode, as they used to say. have been outstanding in the highway waiting for a car to run over it. I don't know what the fuck they're doing, but like I said earlier, I picked a poor week to quit watching AEW because honestly we would have made the same decision maybe, and I still may be open to it.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Maybe they'll just never do this again. But this was Rousseau-Rific in tone. this was one of the more trivial observations I had for the Smackdown on April 3rd Tornado Day. It was a big bag of win. Is it mandatory for all the talent to walk in, hold a cup of coffee
Starting point is 02:17:19 and rolling their fucking suitcase? These are the most caffeinated motherfuckers. Why doesn't anyone put their hand up like they're blocking the camera, like they don't want to be seen or turn around? Like, why doesn't anyone play it up, like instead of just, yeah, I'll walk in and let you film me. Well, they're animated and they're having this conversation and they've got their cups and
Starting point is 02:17:39 they're, they should have shot us when we walked in the goddamn building about 40 years ago. They didn't have suitcases with wheels. I had shit hanging over my shoulders carrying those goddamn heavy Nikita Mokovic tag team belts. And the boys were all fucking straggled haired and been in the car for five hours and we're limping into a goddamn place sweating like horrors in churches. Anyhow. So they recapped the thing with Cody and Stephanie on Raw where she emasculated him and he thanked her for it and the people boot him.
Starting point is 02:18:20 And then here comes Randy Orton in St. Louis, 11,620 people in his hometown. Big Pop, Randy, Randy, Randy. and this was this was close to a roman reigns because it was about four minutes until he spoke st louis what do you want to talk about and the one thing about this is orton has been speaking brilliantly he's fucking great because he's just being randy orton he said this is my hometown i still call it home and the next time you see me i've got number 15 or my waist. Yay.
Starting point is 02:19:07 Baby, but I'm not doing it for you. I'm doing it for me. And that was great. Then now he's being a heel kind of like, right? And I'm doing it for my family. They pop for, I'm doing it for me. They pop for that too. Well, they pop for that.
Starting point is 02:19:21 But I thought he's good, for me, for my family. I'm thinking he's going to get a little greedy here. He's said, my real home. But then he says the six people in the front row and they're in the friend. they shoot him is his wife and kids. What a fucking heel. Darling little children. And I get, he's a prolific son of a gun.
Starting point is 02:19:44 And so then he says Cody Rhodes is going to go home empty-handed after WrestleMania and they cheer it. And again, I even said last show, I think we were talking about this. I think they knew they were going to cheer Randy and probably booed Cody just because they want the WrestleMania. The fans want the WrestleMania moment. They want to see the title change or they just
Starting point is 02:20:08 Randy's the fucking darling, the icon. Cody is be the icon in five years, 10 year, whatever. So they weren't worried about that because it was a money match. They should have been more worried about people thinking that the whole thing
Starting point is 02:20:24 was stupid and didn't make sense. It wasn't what they wanted to see rather than whether somebody was going to get cheered or not. because again, Randy, here at this place, he's still being Randy Orton. It's not personal. Cody said I could be the viper. He said I could listen to the voices. Stephanie told him that he can't beat me.
Starting point is 02:20:48 And I mean, he really did a fired up promo. He meant it. He felt it. And then Cody's music plays. And he comes out in a suit with the belt and everything, but he drops the belt. He takes off the jacket and tie and get it. gets in and boy and they have a fight. And Cody takes over in the corner and starts kicking a shit out of Orton.
Starting point is 02:21:11 And the play starts booing him. But then he had to kick shit out of him for a while in the corner because McAfee, Pat McAfee was coming in the ring from the other side. And as Cody turns and sees him, he's like, well, what do you do it here? McAfee kicks him in the balls. and he's wearing an RKO shirt, and he starts kicking Cody. And the fans at first were kind of booing,
Starting point is 02:21:42 but they were kind of confused booing. They were not mad booing, they were confused booing. Like, what's happening here? We don't know. And then for the next five minutes or whatever, they just made Cody look like a complete idiot made their company look completely,
Starting point is 02:22:06 the authority figure of the Smackdown looked completely ineffective, piss people off in the wrong way about this whole thing, and slander their own product. Do you, before I go into the way they did all these things, Brian, do you have any comments to make so far? I don't even know what I could add so far. This was one of the worst segments,
Starting point is 02:22:31 most counterproductive segments I've ever seen. It was astounding in getting everything wrong. Randy's the baby face. When Cody came out there and started punching him, it reminded me of Cody and Malachi in AEW. White suit versus black suit. And all of a sudden, right away, Cody wasn't cool at all,
Starting point is 02:22:53 all the fans went with Malachi, even though Cody's the traditional baby face. Cody has not been booked well the segment on Monday with Stephanie was awful again even if it leads to a heel turn and at this point with this angle we could discuss whether that could even happen
Starting point is 02:23:10 but that angle did nothing to help anyone get excited for this match did nothing to help Cody not look like a pussy and then this McAfee gets in there didn't get a really big reaction didn't seem like people want of this, I'm not a Maccafee fan.
Starting point is 02:23:30 I was at the barbershop recently and his show was on. Nobody in that shop was a McAfee fan. Nobody likes softball talk. But he was best used as a baby face. Whatever you want to say about him. He has enthusiasm. His energy. He has a love and energy for the product and his baby face and a rah-rah guy.
Starting point is 02:23:49 And WWE fans like that, him standing on his desk doing the Uso shit. Again, not for me, but that's the best usage of it. of him. All of a sudden now, he turns heel to no reaction, and he gives a promo, which on its face is a bad idea. Saying everything is awful on the show out of nowhere.
Starting point is 02:24:15 He hasn't even been on the show in forever. He's the guy Randy Orton was talking to on the phone, and he says the show is awful. The ratings are the worst it's ever been. Apparently he wasn't even talking TV ratings. He was talking Cage Mac. Like the ratings for the show Apparently that's what someone told me It was about the fan ratings of Smackdown
Starting point is 02:24:35 And then he brings up the attitude era I mean You know when you did your stuff in the 90s Talking about how much better things were In the past That was for like 10 years earlier Things were better 10 years ago Well if but if you noticed even when I did that
Starting point is 02:24:52 I didn't ever say things used to be better I pointed out the things that were not good and and it seems that the wrestling fans would like the traditional things instead of the thing like this and that and the other thing. And I say now, you know, but again, they're talking 25 years, but we're getting ahead of ourselves. The attitude error. Neither of them were there for the attitude error. Exactly. But think about McAfee was a fan and Orton was a teenager.
Starting point is 02:25:19 But think about, meanwhile, they're doing all these things that we're going to mention they're doing. What is Cody doing? they he kicked him in the balls or they kicked him to balls right pat did and then every once while Randy grabbed a chair and would hit him as McAfee is starting to cut this promo and defaming the st. Louis sports teams and aldous and the officials through four of them come out but they just stand on the floor yeah stand there they don't even reach you to pull Cody out Cody's writhing there and order and go over and choke him with a chair or he'll whack him again or he'll kick him but Cody's just laying there and nobody's even bother and try to physically intervene
Starting point is 02:26:08 with two guys for fuck's sake in a company where we know they got 20 security guards on on call for anything but point being then the promo that's that's the thing that they they were burying Cody visually in front of the entire arena by just keeping him immobile and ineffectual while McAfee said the the WWE product has been shit and they bleeped it and the business is going wrong and he did Austin and rock impressions
Starting point is 02:26:45 and he said he was sick of having to watch two five foot five inch guys do 45 minute iron man matches 10 weeks in a row while Randy Orton is here then he's been watching the wrong television show where was that what show was that on? That's over on dynamite he mixed him up
Starting point is 02:27:04 and he turns on Netflix and he sees all of the gorilla position circle jerking while Randy Orton is around and the people are cheering these points he's making but then he says he goes too far with it
Starting point is 02:27:23 then he says why are WrestleMania tickets still available smackdowns having its worst ratings ever they they don't really care at this point now but Orton would continue to beat up Cody but not like continuously like pummeling him but everyone's while boom
Starting point is 02:27:44 while Aldous and the agent stood on the floor and McAfee was telling everybody that the business that Cody led was terrible and Randy Orton was going to save the fucking business. And they bleeped fucking, but he wouldn't have said fucking if some high-muckety-muck hadn't said, say fuck. So they really thought this was going to get over enough to bring out all the tools in the toolkit. And then McAfee admitted he was on the phone with Randy. And then both of the heels left as the fans were chanting, Randy, Randy, Randy.
Starting point is 02:28:22 And then Aldous and the four other ex-wrestler grown adult men get in the ring and sit Cody up and the people start booing him. And it, again, Orton and Cody, and they've got 20 years of history from the time that Cody broke in and the family history of the fathers on opposite sides of many great confrontations. and the history they've got in the WW alone is the mentor pupil and the they've Orton preceded Cody and OVW they've got all kinds of footage of I mean Pat McAfee is in this somehow what the fuck why would Pat, why would Randy Orton listen to Pat McAfee's advice on the phone unless Orton was trying to fugging bet on a football game. Ordin's a 15 time world champion.
Starting point is 02:29:30 McAfee's had five matches. Whatever the... How many ways does this not make any sense, Brian? It doesn't make any sense in any way if you try to figure it out. That's part of the problem. It could have been anyone with a wrestling last name. I think everyone feels kind of deflated that it's Pat McAfee. nobody's like, oh man, big heel run for Pat McAfee.
Starting point is 02:29:57 No one wants this right now. The feud was there, the match was there. They've overcomplicated everything for no reason, other than they like to jam-pack celebrities into everything. This is a week off jelly roll being in almost every segment on Smackdown. And I'm not going to say anything bad about Lil Yati. He was one of the highlights of this episode, to be quite honest with you. But beyond any of this, too much celebrities,
Starting point is 02:30:24 That means something to Ari Emanuel and don't mean something to wrestling fans. Pat McAfee has in the past, but this ain't it. And again, coming out here, doing the bad impression, like, it was just, it wasn't a good promo, the messaging behind it was bad. Imagine in the mid-90s if Conan O'Brien showed up and said, oh, things were better when New York wrestling wasn't televised. Like, it just doesn't make any fucking sense. to say, let's go back to the attitude error.
Starting point is 02:30:56 That was before Randy Orton was even a wrestler. That's how long ago it is. This whole show is bad. This opening segment, this is two straight Cody Rhodes opening segments that do nothing but hurt Cody Rhodes, even if they turn him heel. And how do you turn him heel after this? Even though Randy got cheered, he was the heel here. They started putting down St. Louis.
Starting point is 02:31:21 Yeah. their creative is lost at sea and there's nothing bringing it back right now because what are the other options Brian Gowertz comes in and saves it oh that ain't happening he couldn't save shit they didn't even need the rock this year
Starting point is 02:31:37 to fuck up WrestleMania they did it themselves this is extraordinary but it's it's such they're talking to smart fans it's like a Vince Russo or a Tony Khan we're saying oh we got to talk to the smart fans about what or or just talk to the to the excommunicated attitude era fans that it was better. Anything was better than this.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Practically, it was certainly more real, not so fake and silly and boring. But to come out and are they doing a Burger King? Is this the Burger King? We're lost. Yeah, we, we fucked up. You have to be a baby face to do that. The CEO Burger King is a baby face in that spot. The heel is the king that they fired.
Starting point is 02:32:23 That's true. Then they're, oh my God. The people are cheering the bad guys for saying that the product sucks because it does. And they're reminding of it. And I'm not the biggest Randy Orton fan, but I agree with what you said earlier, too. He's doing some of the best promos he's done. He doesn't need a mouthpiece. Why would you do this for him now?
Starting point is 02:32:47 They have muddied up this whole build. they've muddied up the story. They have destroyed Cody Rhodes. Almost every single thing in creative has been a long-term miss since the John Cena comeback. And it's kind of crazy. Even, and we'll talk about Danhausen, I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:33:09 Even the Danhausen stuff to me is starting to wear off quick. And there's a lot of bad stuff that is completely at fault of the creative team and specifically Paul Levec, who's in charge of it. You can have all these girls that he hires to write wrestling TV. If he approves it,
Starting point is 02:33:28 it's his responsibility. And the TV's awful. And it doesn't seem like it's just hardcore fans saying it. It seems like it's a lot of WWE fans are getting frustrated because when you see a layup and someone's like, I'm going to instead run around the basketball court a few times and shoot it from the middle.
Starting point is 02:33:46 You're like, why? You could have just gone up there and gotten the two points. and WWW right now is missing all the two-point shots because they're going for the half-court shots that are just missing left and right. They're getting too cute. One or two brief segments of Cheetah in the Tarzan movie was fine. Nobody wanted to see Cheetah star in the movie
Starting point is 02:34:13 and saved Tarzan who was in a cameo. And they have ha-haed this thing up bad possibly because again besides triple H, a lot of these other people Nick Kahn's and Ari Emanuals and all these other
Starting point is 02:34:31 people they may have plenty of years experience in business but they don't have all the experience in the business and I mean is this Triple H suddenly or is this now he's got to have a quota of
Starting point is 02:34:48 fucking celebrities I don't know whatever the fuck and by the way fuck wwee unreal because I almost feel like some of this has done more for that show than it is for this show they're happy they got an Emmy nomination but none of this is working out well
Starting point is 02:35:07 here on Smackdown and Raw and we're right before WrestleMania and this is just terrible stuff well you know what it is Brian I'll tell you what it is it's hard to fucking swallow it's just hard to swallow this type of stuff and I mean you can try you can chew it and you can try to wash it down with a cold beverage
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Starting point is 02:36:21 and your own French kitchen, but every once in a while, you just want somebody else to do the work. Yeah, I'd love to be able to do that. I don't have the time. I don't have the time at all to do that and do it right, so I would love for someone to give me something, let's just say, was crafted by a chef. Well, I know exactly where you can go.
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Starting point is 02:40:52 Speak in tongues and enjoy a great meal. And, well, see, that comes from, you've been overindulging. Over-indulging in the terriaki salmon. Okay, then we had Ria Ripley against Mia Yem, and we had Uncle Howdy against a Tongan of some description. Did you follow it? any of that. That was one, again, I paid maybe too much attention to some of this stuff
Starting point is 02:41:14 knowing you wouldn't watch it, but the endless Wyatt's versus Tongan's feud or Solo feud over the lantern and then Tonga Loa or Tomatanga and Solo started fighting over
Starting point is 02:41:29 returning the lantern. This was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. Well, that's why I didn't see it, see? But I'm just assuming that everybody knows that anything involving these two entities, the Tongans and the Howdians is rot. Ratt. Ifluvia.
Starting point is 02:41:52 I like words like that that kind of convey the despicable and repugnant nature of something. Well, then we got to 9 o'clock. Trick Williams was in the ring with his friend Little Yachty. Now, do you know his little Yacht? Now, do you, as little Yadi is a person that you have heard of before, that you know or aware of as a celebrity of some description? I know of him because he's been on wrestling before, and we've had this discussion about him,
Starting point is 02:42:23 and I'll say it here. The amount of celebrities and the lack of meaningful payoff to their involvement has become a problem. I enjoyed the shit out of Lil Yadi in this segment. He was perfect with trick-outy. here. Those two together was great. This is the thing. I don't care if he's a celebrity.
Starting point is 02:42:48 If he's within their budget, this is part of Trick's gimmick. They worked perfectly together. He was like just doing the little fucking, oh, tell him, while Trick was doing his promo and they had obviously, not only did they work something out, obviously they did just do that off top of their head. But they have chemistry.
Starting point is 02:43:15 It wasn't like shit. It was good. They worked well together. Again, they'd train anybody. If they trained that fat fucking jelly roll fucking to wrestle, they ought to train this fucking guy to be the manager and make them a team. I think they're fucking great together because it made, it accentuated
Starting point is 02:43:39 Trick as a star to have his backup guy there. I thought it was great. And again, here's Treg Williams, another guy. I think he's technically a heel.
Starting point is 02:43:50 Who's going to boo him? Nobody. But I think they're taking advantage of that because they're, either they're turning Sammy heel or again, now either one of these may be true, they're turning Sammy heel
Starting point is 02:44:05 or they're insane, but we've already established they're insane. but Sammy Zane is turning heel or there's no other explanation. So they might as well do that here because they're cheering trick to begin with. And then Carmelo Hayes is just stuck in there for reasons I have no idea. I would rather see just Sammy and Trick, but Hayes gets in the way. But maybe they beat him and got rid of him now.
Starting point is 02:44:32 but nevertheless, Trick and Little Yachty were great together doing this fucking tag team promo is that we're not going to take any lip off a gingerbread man and then of course, obviously, Sammy comes out,
Starting point is 02:44:48 and the people are picking up on that whatever, hopefully this has been intentional because there's been a subtle shift in Sammy's attitude, the way he's been presented, the way he's talking, this whole backstage thing where he was trying to give various pep talks to Orton and Cody
Starting point is 02:45:10 and things just kept coming out wrong. So anyway, Sammy did the promo, pageantry's never been my thing. But all of this, none of this is going to help you. I'm going to humble your ass at WrestleMania. And then the fan start chant, whoop that trick, whoop that trick, whoop that trick. and tricks gripe obviously is that sammy is a he's the reason that sammy's the champion to begin with after what they did with carmello and of course here comes carmello and he's mad at both and he's getting in the way and they had this going but then
Starting point is 02:45:50 i was just going to say even hayes got cheered at some points over sammy go ahead i was going to say the fans reacted really well to carmel and when carmelo said something that in a way you would think if there was ever a time for them to boom, it's this comment. When he said he carried Smackdown for whatever period of time it was months, they cheered. The fans were actually behind him. And I agree with you. Sammy has to turn heel after all this because I don't know,
Starting point is 02:46:18 I don't think he's getting cheered for a while. Yeah, well, and that's the thing is that even now Carmelho is getting cheered for for being a braggadocious little prick because they're, They're turning on Sammy here. They realize what's going on. So basically the, this thing continued though. The only thing is after,
Starting point is 02:46:42 without Trick and Yadi, it got a little long winded. Trick was, and was even looking at his watch. Like Jesus Christ. And Trick has said, yeah, give Carmelo his rematch that he wants. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:46:57 And Sammy was a little long winded there, but okay, I'll give it. it to you tonight. And then Tric said, well, that took forever. You could have saved us five minutes, which was true. And then Sammy clothesline him over the top rope and the people booed Sammy for clotheslining him over the top rope. So I feel like it's deja vu all over again.
Starting point is 02:47:26 Remember just a few weeks back, Brian, when I was saying, boy, this is the most popular bunch of heels I've ever seen. and the most unpopular baby faces I've ever seen, and I was talking about AEW. Now this is the most popular bunch of heels I've ever seen and the most unpopular bunch of baby faces I've ever seen in the WWE. Yeah, AEW's baby faces are weak,
Starting point is 02:47:53 but the fans cheer them. And the fans boo the heels. Here, the heels are the baby faces now. And by the way, they should be. Randy Orton's cooler than Cody. He's been booked better. Trick Williams is as cool as it gets right now. So, I mean, it's an interesting dynamic where, I hate to say,
Starting point is 02:48:11 because they brought it up earlier, it's almost Attitude Era-esque, where the heels are the baby faces and the baby faces are the heels. Except the attitude era didn't have this many quasi-celebrities actually having wrestling matches. Yeah. And thanks. Okay. continuing on with Smackdown.
Starting point is 02:48:34 We had Cardona wrestled Malachi Black. That was where all the lights went out. Did you notice that? Because since there was two black holes of charisma in the ring together, they sucked all the light into themselves from the, and you could see nothing for like 10 minutes. And they did tons of backstage bullshit. And then they had Charlotte and Alexa against Bailey and Lyric.
Starting point is 02:49:00 and we were past 10 o'clock. We're two hours in with what we've just talked about. And in the back, this begins a whole, a whole sordid thing, Brian. There's the Ms. and Kit Wilson, Mr. Toxic guy. And Ms. is saying, hey, this whole curse thing from Danhausen is a myth. It's just, it's bullshit. and Danhausen suddenly appears behind him.
Starting point is 02:49:34 They're making it so obvious now. Isn't it a little annoying that somebody in the Danhausen skit has to turn away from Danhausen and there has to be an unnatural zoom in of a close-up on that person for no reason so they can zoom out and he's gone? Is it there a multi-billion? publicly traded company, there are effects.
Starting point is 02:50:03 There's a little, I'm not talking about CGI, but goddamn, there's a few other camera moves that you could do to kind of fucking, anyway, Dan Housin shows up behind him with a jar of teeth. And he'll come to the ring with him and help him out and everything. They're going to win a tag team titles. And Kit Wilson said, you are toxic. But then Danhausen says, I'll undo the curse if you let me come to the ring with you. And Ms. says, you take your curse and shove it.
Starting point is 02:50:37 And then Danhausen disappears again after another close up on Ms. And again, they're not doing David Copperfield style magic in the round. If they could just, do you see what I'm saying, Brian, if he could bail a different, in a different effect? We've seen the same intro and the same disappearance. Now on both shows going back a month or so. And I get a kick out of Danhausen stuff, but that has to be changed. Because like you said, it's every time now. Camera does a close-up of the guy, all of a sudden Danhausen's there.
Starting point is 02:51:16 Camera does the second close-up, Danhausen ducks out of the picture and disappears. And that's, you're, again, you're not doing the live magic in the round to where this needs to be, like, legitimate to everybody in the fucking picture. and etc. You're doing pre-tapes in the back that can be. All right. So then they have the tag team title match. And Jesus Christ, Brian, we skip a week or two of these people.
Starting point is 02:51:44 And Damien Priest and Our Truth are the tag team champions. Do you remember this happening? I did not watch this. I have not seen these recent developments in a tag team division. Well, there they were. And a couple Fridays ago was rotten. and we skipped it. But that's,
Starting point is 02:52:05 you can almost tell in priests' work, it seems like he's slowed down about a revolution. And they've given up on him. He's in a tag team with the comedy guy that, and he's working with another comedy guy. So Priest and Truth against Ms. and Wilson, and they have this match,
Starting point is 02:52:26 and I didn't care about the match, so that's not the point. But here is the finish. I got to be honest with you, I think Tony Khan would have been offended by this as being too fake if somebody pitched it to him. So,
Starting point is 02:52:47 priest and Wilson are on the floor and priest clotheslines Wilson and then they both just go down and priest stays down for no reason. He's the one that just did that, but they just lay on the floor because they got to be out of the picture for the next couple minutes.
Starting point is 02:53:05 Meanwhile, there's thousands of people in the building watching them just lay there on the fucking floor. So Ms. and Truth have a double knockout in the middle of the ring and Danhausen's music plays. And he makes his entrance down the aisle and goes to the ring. And I mean, it's not like he's running. And he gets up on the ring apron to take the tag. And Ms. and Truth, meanwhile, through his whole entrance,
Starting point is 02:53:36 have been motionless in the ring like Priest and Wilson. and outside the ring. So then Ms. looks up and either he's just gobsmacked of the gall of this guy or he's thinking about it or whatever, but he looks at him for a while with Dan Housen and said, tag me, tag me.
Starting point is 02:53:54 And then he says, get out of here. And then Ms. goes in the corner and argues with the referee forever while truth slowly turns over and looks and milks. Once he finally started milking it, the people got with it, but it took a second, more than
Starting point is 02:54:16 a second. So finally, as he's milked the people, truth, he tags Danhausen. And then Danhausen gets in the ring, and Ms. turns around and sees him and tells him get the fuck out of there. And Danhausen winds up to curse Ms. But Ms.
Starting point is 02:54:35 pulls the referee. My poor old friend, Rudy Charles in the in the front of him and Danhausen accidentally curses the referee. So then he has to apologize to the referee. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. Like he's just set him on fire as Danhausen's reaction. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:54:58 I didn't mean. And then Ms. grabs the full Nelson on Danhausen, but the lights go out. And when the lights come back on, Ms. is standing with empty arms in the ring, and Danhausen is at the entryway scurrying off. He's running. You see him running away. I don't know if that was intentional or not.
Starting point is 02:55:19 You're supposed to see him running? They cut to the shot! I guess so, yeah. They cut to a shot of Danhausen in the entryway scurrying away. You know, this is one of those things we killed the Indies for, and early days of AEW some of the stuff we saw, you know, the invisible man, that kind of stuff on the Indies. I don't like this.
Starting point is 02:55:42 Again, this episode, I like Trick Williams and Liljati and I didn't like a single other thing on this episode. And this seems like a major step backwards. Imagine this, a three-hour show and the only thing good I've said is they ought to hire of some rapper that I've never heard of before.
Starting point is 02:56:00 But nevertheless, the match is still going on now because now if fucking Danhausen is scurried away and fucking Ms was, you know, gobsmacked and here comes truth. And now, man, meanwhile, again, priest and fucking dipshit have been down forever. So priest and Ms. do a little thing, boom, boom, boom. And Ms. hits his finish on truth. And the referee goes to count one, two, and then scream.
Starting point is 02:56:37 in pain and grabs his right arm and can't count and is, oh my God, he's in agony because he's been cursed. And then in the middle of all of this, truth tags priest and priest hits his finish on Ms. and the referee counted with his left hand. But Ms. was like, what are you doing? Oh, I can't. Oh, it hurts. I actually wrote. now I have to quit watching SmackDown. If I'm complying the same fucking logic, should we give them one week grace period
Starting point is 02:57:19 to try to come out of this stupor? I think we've got to give them at least until WrestleMania just because we're a couple of weeks away. Because I actually am interested in a couple of things at WrestleMania, unlike almost everything else that anybody ever does ever anymore. And they're feeding me this shit.
Starting point is 02:57:37 Now, the segment's not over yet. but your thoughts on the cursed referee. Do you think maybe Dan hasn't put a curse on the creative team? And that's what's causing all this? No, I don't like it. Again, it's been fun some of the Danhausen stuff and cutesy. And I don't mind him going out there throwing t-shirts to the crowd or getting a pop for a backstage segment,
Starting point is 02:58:03 although like we said before, they've got to mix it up a little bit. But to me, this is a step too far. Once magic is introduced, that's right there with teleportation for me. Yeah. I don't like it at all. The referee did a good job. I mean, for whatever it's worth, the referee did a good job of selling that magic has stopped him from being able to count the pin because of magic pain. But this isn't pro wrestling.
Starting point is 02:58:30 This is Lucha Underground. This is a mockery of wrestling when Dan Housins used like this. Well, and then they went to replay. but the segment wasn't over because when they come back from the replays of this fiasca, as if we needed to be reminded of what we'd just seen, Cody comes out, hits the ring,
Starting point is 02:58:52 and just gives poor old kid a crossroads in the middle of the rig, you're like, wipes his feet on this guy. And in takes the microphone, it cuts another promo on Orton and McAfee. And there was a... Again, this was so odd. Like, he called Macaugh,
Starting point is 02:59:11 a stoner, grifter, Logan Paul without muscles human hat rack. I mean, there was some good shit. But the promo was it was supposed to be appealing again to inside smart fans or smart marks or whatever the phrase is. Just stuff that neither one of these guys
Starting point is 02:59:33 naturally has ever had historically said in promos. Cody said this, this reveal McAfee, it's like if the third man after Hall and Nash was Disco Inferno instead of Hulk Hogan. No reaction. Well, yeah, because people are like, well, and then at the same time, this was an inside shoot promo because Cody made the
Starting point is 03:00:07 he specifically used the verbiage, you and everybody who represents you can kiss my ass. Fire me. It worked out for you great the last time, didn't it? But there was, there looked like there was enough vehemence in it that I think that on some level Cody is pissed and he was really enjoying saying that.
Starting point is 03:00:39 Does that make any sense to you? It does, I guess. He was having a. meltdown on a couple of different levels that I'm not sure everybody got. I'm not sure that the fans got the... They didn't get any of this. I don't know who this is for exactly. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 03:00:54 I'm not sure that the fans got the point of the whole thing besides the, you know, insult to McAfee, but also, I think maybe somebody in creative or whoever's representing who, I think he's not pleased with them. either he knows this is shite. It was very heartfelt, is what I'm saying. If there was ever a week where you tried to convince me Vince Rousseau was writing for WWE again, this may have been the week. There you go.
Starting point is 03:01:25 They have not done any favors for Cody. I'm not a fan of the work shoot promos. Because even the crowd you're trying to appeal to with that, they see through it. You know, you can't get away with that right now with this. no one's going to buy that this is anything other than what it is. And what it is right now is a bad build for a main event match or WrestleMania. If I was Cody Rhodes, I would be pissed off. I mean, he comes out there, he's like, Stephanie McMahon, who I respect so much,
Starting point is 03:01:56 why are you saying that? Who is this promo for? You guys have lost the plot. They succeeded in getting everyone behind Cody, and now they've succeeded in running all of those fans off. It's astounding. You are pounding on the desk there, pal. I threw something and then I put my fist down, but now I did it again.
Starting point is 03:02:19 See, I'm accused of being all the, you know, active over, demonstrative over here. It's got you fired up too. And then he finally, he had to defend the business that he had done. I've done it. That was sold out. And I'm finally hearing the voices in my head and you don't want to know what they say. But he's there. they're trying to have Cody defend the business that he's done as champion,
Starting point is 03:02:42 which the fans are really going to give a shit about, except for the fucking people like us that comment on all these inside things. That ain't going to fill the fucking stadium. Yeah, the average fan watches Smackdown and Raw, and then watches again the next week. These thoughts that the WWE put in their head this week are not thoughts that the average fan has, like the ratings for last week's show were the all-time worst, where things have been awful
Starting point is 03:03:07 or I wish things can go back to the way they were 30 years ago, almost 30 years ago, these weren't thoughts that their base fan were having, not the people that paid. They've run those people off. People like me, they've run them off
Starting point is 03:03:24 because those regular folks don't get paid to watch this stuff. So the people that felt that way are listening to us because they've run them off. But they don't need to tell their current audience the truth about everything that's wrong with their show, do they? Remember when Will Osprey did that promo?
Starting point is 03:03:42 You want to talk about what sucks about AEW? What was it? The line? It was like, you want to talk about what makes AEW awful? You're what makes AEW awful. You're the reason it's awful. It doesn't help. They introduced a bunch of concepts to fans here in the Pat McAfee promo
Starting point is 03:03:57 and now the Cody promo that don't help the company, don't have the build of the match, don't help Cody. It was around this time, Jim, I needed a nap. I'll tell you exactly what I was ready to join you. And that's why that as soon as this was over, I just wandered right, right to the bedroom of the zombie-fied look in my face.
Starting point is 03:04:21 And I laid down on my Helic sleep mattress. And boom, just instantly I was unconscious. And when I came to hooked up to all those tubes with all those monitors and going, beep, beep, beep, I realized, well, son of a gun, that was a good night's sleep. You will sleep deeper than the Mariana Trench. When you sleep on a Helix mattress, folks, they're the most awarded mattress brand.
Starting point is 03:04:49 They're tested and reviewed by experts. You saw, Brian, just a review you were doing the other day on the internet that guess who was voted the number one mattress, our friends at Helix. That's right. Several different polls. I looked for the best mattress of 20s. 26 and it was helix.
Starting point is 03:05:07 It's everywhere, and that's because it is. It's the odds, honest truth. And right now, not only is a good night's sleep important, Brian, it helps you rest and reinvigorate, but it's springtime, the spring cleaning. Do you know how many filthy, stinking, dust-ridden mattresses are thrown out in the spring? Because if you have a mattress for like 10 years, the amount of dust that is going to congregate in that mattress and then the dust mites, the little microscopic things
Starting point is 03:05:43 with the feelers and the pinchers. There's about 72 pounds of dust in the average 10-year-old mattress, and that's why it's so heavy when you lug it out of the house. But you've got to do this. Get the filth out of your home, ladies gentlemen. Filthy, filthy bedding leads to filthy, filthy people. And you don't want that. So get a brand new spring clean, brand new Helix mattress, get a good night's sleep,
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Starting point is 03:07:20 That does sound better. It sounds sexier. Also, it sounds like you're talking to me while you're laying on a helix mattress. All right, now I want to get off the mattress. This is making me sick. But what I was going to say, ladies and gentlemen... Go away. Why?
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Starting point is 03:09:03 Well, and then of course, back to smack down to finish this thing up, Brian. For the U.S. title, Sammy Zane had promised Carmelo Hayes that he would indeed get his rematch. And they had a match. And they worked a deal where Carmelo did a dive and, you know, hurt his knee or his leg or whatever the case. He was selling his knee there.
Starting point is 03:09:27 And then that way, you know, he could sell that through the whole thing. And then finally, they work another. spot where boom he comes off the rope do a deal, Sammy gets out of the way and he lands on his feet and he goes down and he's hurt his leg, he's backed up in the corner and the referee backs Sammy up and said, no, I'm checking on him. And then he goes to check on Carmelo,
Starting point is 03:09:48 Carmela. Carmelo! What Carmela am I thinking about? There used to be a ballet. She was there and a wrestler. I shouldn't say ballet. She was a wrestler and she got a, I think, injuries forced her to retire. She's married. No, I mean, there was an old-time person
Starting point is 03:10:08 in wrestling back the way it used to be, the way we liked it named Carmela. Not like a wrestler, just a wrestling Oh, Joel Goodhart? The woman who did the show, Joel Goodhart? Carmela, that's right, with Joel Goodhart. Panfill? Panfill.
Starting point is 03:10:23 Carmella Panfill. I hope she's doing okay now that we've invoked her name. I hope she's not in a landfill. It's ha ha! usually when I mention people these days, something bad has happened to him. Anyway, Carmelo is in the corner.
Starting point is 03:10:45 The referee's checking him. He's got the bad legs. Sammy backs up in the corner and charges and hits the Huluva kick in the corner on the unsuspecting injured man and covered him. But here's the problem, one, two, three, just like that.
Starting point is 03:11:04 I understand they want Sammy to, again, it's not like he's just, you know, disemboweled this guy with a rusty fishing knife, but it is unsportsmanlike while the referee was checking on the injured guy to run, give him your finish when he's not expecting it. That's the point they're trying to make. But they should have closed the loophole. The referee had told Sammy to back up so I can check him. When Sammy fucking hits him with the kick and goes down and covers him, the referee just counts.
Starting point is 03:11:33 And of course, the fans booed because that was a heelish thir. thing to do, but why did the referee not say, what the fuck are you doing? I told you to back up. I'm checking the minute. Hey, count it, count it. And make the referee get down and just a little thing, right? I don't, anyway. Sammy won and then Trick and his friend jumped back in, a little yachty, and started insulting
Starting point is 03:12:01 Sammy and then jumped him from behind and my DVR froze. Now, are they doing an overrun on SmackDown 2, or was it just they were that tight? They were that tight. I think it was right at the end. Because that's where my DVR ended too, and I don't think they ran over with that. Well, and basically, I think right before the finish, the referee was all over one or both of these guys in the words, not all over them in trying to tell them something. Like, I don't know, I think he was saying, we're running out of time. so they were probably
Starting point is 03:12:38 but anyway they beat up Sammy but I'm sure they got cheered for that in the building you know for beating up Sammy after he just fucked the other guy then they so I mean at least with Sammy they're wanting this and with trick they're wanting this but with all the other
Starting point is 03:12:56 stuff it's just it's all odd and that was Smackdown and that was Smackdown again the weird build to WrestleMania continues the apparent upcoming heel turn of Sammy Zane, although they're already booing him. They're into Carmelo. They love Trick Williams.
Starting point is 03:13:16 Referee was cursed. We'll see if his hand is okay in the future. Will the curse continue? The tag team division, obviously on Smackdown now, is a complete joke. What else? Randy Orton and Pat McAfee's heel turn. I know there's some fans that like it.
Starting point is 03:13:35 I saw some people that thought I was being too critical and they said, I loved what Pat said, or I agreed with what Pat said. That misses the point altogether. It's not even about what he said. Yeah, we're supposed to say shit like the show sucks because we have no financial interest either way, but they're not really supposed to tell us that their show sucks
Starting point is 03:13:57 on their own show when it sucks. Or just make it not suck. Don't call attention to that it does suck. Don't send someone out there to do a speech by how bad things are at the same time you're raising the ticket prices. Because what does that say about your mentality? Let's raise the rates again. They're idiots. Go out there and tell them how stupid they are.
Starting point is 03:14:22 They are lost. If they're trying to get the attitude era people back, like, yeah, this is what we want to see, the attitude. Well, then try to put bringing back attitude era ticket prices. Yeah, let's see some titties. There you go. Might as well. Go all the way. Come on. If you're going to do it, do it. Attitude error broke box office records.
Starting point is 03:14:43 Set WWE up to become a publicly traded company. Made Vince McMahon a billionaire. Let's see what this does. And it's been impossible to follow for 25 years. And they finally, no, seriously, almost 25 years later, they finally hit another hot run and sell the fucking company to an even bigger goddamn.
Starting point is 03:15:08 conglomeration and then they proceed to give us less than they ever have practically for more than they've ever charged as a and again a lot of the problems go right to the creative team
Starting point is 03:15:29 even if you think that Paul Avec or his team are being overruled by anyone above them it's not for every single thing on these shows these shows are not really good right now they're not building up anything right. And this one had less shit in the middle of it, but who cares about the Wyatts and the Solo Sacoa bunch?
Starting point is 03:15:49 Fighting over a lantern. Nobody. So they need a real change creatively at the top, and I just don't know what that could be or who it would be, or how it even would be possible. They just named another female headwriter of Raw a few weeks ago we talked about, who had no experience in wrestling whatsoever. she just writes TV.
Starting point is 03:16:10 She'll be able to write nice little funny segments where the guys pretend the cameras aren't there. Because that's what we did in the attitude era. They had moved on. They had successfully moved on. They had the bloodline. They had Cody Rhodes. They had wrestlers that weren't yet at the top
Starting point is 03:16:25 that people were excited about. And they still are. But things did seem more fresh when they changed Kevin Dunn out. That's right. Leaf Fitting coming in. And brought in Leaf Fitting and the new production that felt new and good and they had that going
Starting point is 03:16:40 and the box office records and the, et cetera, but I know they can't, the only thing that they have been unable to control that we talked about earlier in a program that was all of their problems with WrestleMania and all their problems in general is the injuries. Everything else has been somewhat self-inflicted. That's a great example.
Starting point is 03:17:08 right there. Obviously, they didn't want nor expect Bronbreaker and Bronson Reed to go down. Or Seth Rollins to go down. And all of these things in the last six months or so have changed the booking plans they had, clearly. So you can't say that everything's been easy and they could have easily just done things. They had to be creative and come up with something. Instead, they came up with a bunch of masked guys hitting the ring and scurrying around. Like, this is where their minds are to. It's like, okay, we have these problems. It creates an opportunity to do something good or special. Instead, they're going to bad wrestling ideas. I can't explain the deficiencies in this creative team or why they think this is what it should be, but this team, the creative team,
Starting point is 03:17:59 Ed Kosky, Bruce Pritchard, the other random generic people, throw Haman in there, although Heyman's stuff still is better than everyone else's, but especially Paul Levec, the creative team is creatively bankrupt right now. They don't know what to do, they don't know how to get out of their own way, and they rely on boring old tropes of the Vince McMahon era that are dead. Well, and see, with so many people being involved, now with the Danhausen thing, coming out and taking the tag in the tag match or whatever, all the things that we talked about they did. There's a semblance of an old wrestling angle in that, in that if you had a tag team, a heel team that had wiped out one of the members of the baby face team, and there was this
Starting point is 03:18:53 poor baby face in the ring that was getting just beat to death because they were just tagging in and out on him. And he was all alone. His partner had got hurt, but he didn't want to give up. And then you send the other top baby face out to jump on the April. and reach for the tag, and the people are up, and the referee looks like, okay, I'll okay this, and blah, blah, blah, he gets the hot tag, that type. And it's, and then you do an angle, and it's coming back for a big match or whatever.
Starting point is 03:19:20 But just, that was the only old wrestling part about it was. Danhausen gets on the apron to try to take the tag. Everything around it was completely showbiz and goofball and implausible. and just done on an underneath level with underneath guys for comedy's sake. And this was one of the sillier WW television programs in a while, probably the worst one I can think of that I've seen in a while.
Starting point is 03:19:54 But it's almost like that, you know, the fucking trampoline cowboy mentality somehow penetrated the WWE offices and it's just it's all done for comedy and let's get anybody involved and this is complete
Starting point is 03:20:16 showbiz parody of wrestling and mixed with we just want to do shit to shock people whether it makes any sense or not all of the worst parts of modern wrestling were what we got in this three-hour extravaganza that's just the point that I'm making
Starting point is 03:20:35 well that was smackdown whose show is this it is yours thankfully is it over with it is yours well in that case I believe we are done here ladies gentlemen but there will be another fantastic
Starting point is 03:20:55 program for you to listen to in just a few days because Brian last will host the Jim Cornett's drive through and have tons of questions and entertaining things and hilarity and fun and possibly some skits, dramatic readings, and poetry.
Starting point is 03:21:14 I guarantee it will be better than Raw on Smackdown and Dynamite, ladies and gentlemen. That's a low bar. Professional wrestling's popular Jim Cornett's Drive-Thru coming at you next week, and of course, in a week, I'll hear on the experience. Yes, in a week, a week, they pay me weekly, very weekly. All righty, until then, folks,
Starting point is 03:21:36 try not to watch any of this stuff. Oh, and happy Easter, because it's already happened by the time you heard this, so hopefully everybody enjoyed the roast bunny. Thank you. Fuck you, and bye-bye, everybody.

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