Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 629: Self-Inflicted Potholes

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

This week on the Experience, Jim reviews WWE Smackdown, and talks about Danhausen, the Berwyn "Fake Stabbing" Incident, TNA banning talent from working outside shows, Shane McMahon's teenage arrest, the results of last week's AEW Dynamite, paying taxes, and much more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/jce HEXCLAD:  Find your forever cookware @hexclad and get 10% off at hexclad.com/JCE #hexcladpartner SUNDAYS FOR DOGS: Go right now to sundaysfordogs.com/JCE50 and get 50% off your first order! SURFSHARK: Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Go to surfshark.com/JCE or use code JCE at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark VPN! Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's in Kornet. The keys to the future. Hell by Nets. Here is today. The Strait of Stamford has been closed to wrestler traffic. The business has been banned in Berwyn.

And the road to WrestleMania has hit some self-inflicted potholes. All that and more today. And joining me for all this. Hawaiian Brian the podcasting Alian the King of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you, his opinions are so hot you need asbestos earmuffs.

Be great, Brian last, everybody. Aloha, Jim, a pleasure to be here once again. In Berwyn, isn't it crazy? Burwin. Anything you hear about that place, all you think of is Spenguli. And yeah, I guess that's one of the many great things we'll be talking

about here this week. Well, you know, he is the man who made Berwyn famous, much as the crusher was the man who made Milwaukee famous. But I'm feeling better a little bit mentally, Brian, in some ways, because I'm two weeks clean and sober now from AEW Dynamite. And I got it as much easier to read about that it is to actually watch happen, sort of like any other disaster like the Hindenburg, anything like that. but again we're having people oh jim you get paid to do this so we don't have to watch it you got to watch it for us or

this is the most fun we have every week is listening to you make fun of these people what about me what about my mental health everybody else gets to take a mental health day remember bryan are you old enough to remember when a mental health day was where's charlie I think he's gone fishing. And you just, and then you came back the next day. And instead of the official name for it, it was like, fuck this shit type of thing. But anyway, I get some respite, don't I?

Don't I have the stresses and the pressures of the world upon me, Brian, already running this empire, being the personality that I am, entertaining the masses in a variety of ways. I dance for your pennies, people. Variety. I day you throw the pennies and I dance. Don't I get some respite?

I mean, you missed a banger this week. They debuted a whole bunch of people all at once, and that's always good. But maybe we'll talk about some of the highlights of Dynamite later, I will say. Oh, yeah, I saw a picture of one of the highlights they debuted. Whoever debuteded, debuted.

debuted. There were a lot of debutes on this show, but funny enough, now that you're not watching it, they're more like debutants. Now that you're not watching it, the ratings went down like 100,000 people. Well, I don't know, you know,

I'm not trying to say there's a cause and effect, but it was more on that later as we get there. But Brian, I'm also grumpy. You know what the time of the year is, ladies gentlemen around the world, Mr. and Mrs. America and all the ships at sea. It's tax time in America, not morning in America,

not a new day for America, it's tax time in America. And Brian, this ties into something that we've been talking about here recently with our friends across the pond, the matter of paying with checks, right? That was a couple of topics of our discussion lately. It was all Grado's fault.

well that's what started that but now our fucking system over here is being corrupted and convoluted my accountant tells oh you got to pay online this year they wanted me to before but no give it to me on paper

like you have the past 45 fucking years right but now they want me to pay online this year everything And they already, I know some people may find this frivolous or foolish, but Brian, this is a kind of a ritual for me where even if I don't like spending the money, I enjoy that I've gotten it done. And it took for years. It's a 30-minute procedure. You sit down with your returns and your checkbook and you sign your returns and you write your check. and you put them with the payment coupons and you put them in a nice envelope

which your accountant has already addressed for you, it's so convenient. And you stick a stamp on there and you put the return address label on there and you've got stacks of clean white envelopes with checks in them that have indicated that you have done your duty as an American citizen

and you're straight with a fucking government, nobody's going to be coming looking for you. And then you take them to the post office you've taken 30 minutes, sit down with a cold sprite, taking 30 minutes to prepare these things, you've got a feeling of accomplishment, put them in the mail, you're fucking good, right? Easy peasy pumpkin pie.

But now, no, now... They've made it easier. What are they thinking? Well, no, it's not easy. For the past couple years, instead of me just mailing my return in with the check and the blah, blah, blah, blah, also the payment coupons and the estimates and fail,

This is a procedure for us self-employed people. The CPA says, no, just sign this signature page thing, and we'll file the return electronically. And Eddie, because you want to, you can still send your check. But that means that we tried signing the thing electronically, and that flummoxed up some kind of way, Stace, not both. So it ended up that she took a picture of the paper that we signed,

sent it to them. And then they've had me doing this shit with the state online, which, now that'll be a bigger pain in the ass usually than federal. The first two times I tried that, it wouldn't work. And I called him, I said, what the fuck am I not doing? Oh, no, we've had other clients call in and say that it's, it's not working. So I sent him a fucking check. My standpoint on the matter is, if I owe you money and I'm giving you a check that's good

for that money, then you should leave me the fuck alone. If you want my money, you're going to get it the way that I want to give it to you. But again, what's the fuck? No, we want $20,000 from you, but we want it in fucking pennies. They're specifically not asking for that. So they're making it as hard as possible. You have to electronically sign. That doesn't mean.

you have to, I mean, if you didn't pay with the electronic signature, they send you a bill, don't they? Well, I don't know what the fuck would happen. I don't know they're changing everything. Change is bad. And now I'm going to have to sit there for all of these things, city and state and federal and estimates

and everything online with a knot in my stomach, convinced that I'm going to it's either not going to work and they're going to send somebody after me or I'm going to fuck this up some kind of way and never get my money back or what the fuck is. I'm not dealing with any rational fucking exchange here.

It's all going through this. The internet can do what they want. They may apply my payment to some guy in fucking Bolivia. And then I'm worried that I've fucked it up and I'm worried they're coming after me and I'm worried to goddamn somebody's going to knock on the door and say you. First off, I haven't heard anything about Bolivians

not paying their state taxes. So maybe you're okay worrying about that thing. But I mean, this is just, just one of the parts of the changing world where everything's now done electronically. I was under the impression you could still mail checks. That wasn't an issue, but maybe that's new for this year. I don't know, but you know, you're kind of an auditor's nightmare. Like an aggressive honor.

Like an auditor who wants to hurt people. Because you got everything. You got everything laid out nicely in folders. No one has that. That's the thing. Even my accountant says that I'm one of the people who gives them the most detailed information they'll ever get from anybody because every time I spend anything over $5, I write it down in my book.

And anytime I get paid anything, I write it down in my book. And I do monthly breakdowns, then quarterly breakdowns, then exactly what everything goes for. And it's all right there on paper. And I have these notebooks going back over 20 years. If the wrestling business hadn't been a thing for you, do you think you would have been a successful accountant? No, because I hate math.

I just like money. But just not other people's money, your own money. No, if it's not mine, I wouldn't give a fuck to count it. But if it's mine, I'm trying to keep an eye on it. And I like to do things, the normal, traditional way where everybody knows what's going on and there's a fucking paper trail. I'm sure your accountants appreciate all the extra work. Well, they enjoy the interaction. They enjoy the interaction.

Man, every accountant I know is miserable right now. This is like their worst time of year. No, but they enjoy the interaction with me on a regular basis. So they know how I am. Have you given them a figure or a shirt or anything? I was about to say they usually give me the figure to see my account and see what I did there actually there have been the past bit a few figures and books and things passed around but nevertheless all right all right real quick we want to this has been tax talk yeah

and I ain't happy about it but I want to recognize a couple of people in the cult of Cornad who have written in Dylan from Washington State. Just wants to thank me and you, Brian, for distracting him. His father passed away, I guess, in early February after a blood clot from a routine hernia surgery. And again, see, that's what I freak out over all of these type of things. And he actually mentioned Dylan did that the first. first episode that he listened to after his father passed away.

We were talking about Bronbreaker's hernia and my hernia surgeries. And so anyway, I can't imagine Dylan how you feel, but thankfully we've been able to distract you, but I'm way to recognize your dad. My condolences, Dylan. And again, I just hate to go off about the medical field these days, but you can they can transplant assholes from one to the other and take your brain out

and fucking pressure wash it and put it back in or whatever but you can also go in you see it all the time there's headlines in the news from so and so having surgical procedure in a strip mall

you never know what the fuck they have to put me to sleep to get my teeth out every once in a while, because I'm not having that happening when I'm awake, but I'm never real happy about doing it either. You never know about these things. Who's? It's like the pilot of your plane. You know, you want to interview

the anesthesiology. Okay, how many fingers am I holding up? Can you count backwards from 10? Are you all right? How did I get on this? Do you remember Weird Al did a version of, James Brown had a living in America, and Weird Al did a living with a hernia?

and instead of I feel good, it ended with, I feel bad! Yes, I remember that. I heard it once, and then, you know, I've just... I've got horrible fucking feelings about that subject, so I just stay away from it. Anyway, also, Matthew from Boston, he wanted, if we could, a quick dedication on the show.

His Black Lab Jude passed away at the age of 14. and they both listen to the show together. But listen to this for over seven years, he served as an empathy dog at a local nursing home. While Matthew was working as a physical therapist, so he was, the Jude was there to comfort the old folks. And he would also get an entrance promo, hailing from parts unknown, he's rude, he's crude,

he's the pup with attitude, dude, he's the Jude. And that would make his tail wag. So we hate to hear about his loss, Matthew. But at least he was spreading joy to not only just the family, but also folks around him. Hey, Jude. Just be thankful it wasn't Vern Gagne's retirement home that he was sent.

Oh, my God. Now, see, you've always, you've got to. Oh, the dog looks like Mooshalak. I got him. His suplex. And no, you've got. Got to constantly got to just be crass, Brian, when we're trying to have these moments here.

You know, they got on us on the interwebs the other day when you and I both said, even with Danhausen, we try to like the guy, but the fucking, the cursing of the referee was up there with teleportation. And as they, Brian and Jim just hate fun. How many, how many sillier shows are there actually than ours when it comes down to it. Now, this show is pretty stupid.

I know. When you really think about it. When you really think, we just have some just asinine fucking things that we go through here. And we love fun. We just not with the goddamn, that's like, I don't want the person giving me the anesthesia to be having fun. That's where we need some seriousness. Give us our seriousness.

And I saw some of this, and we'll talk about it here, I guess, real quick, because, again, we were at least a couple of the parties responsible for Danhausen becoming popular way back when because we were focusing on his cameos and everything and they got a big reaction and we enjoyed them and then he got signed to AEW and they put him on the shelf for four years, whatever the hell happened there. I like the idea of Danhausen. I like that he tries to apply logic in his own way to what he's doing. But when we hear from people, like, you don't get it.

He's not cursing anyone. It's all coincidence. It's happening. I don't care. It's still the same point of stupidity, whether it's him causing it, or the referee just suddenly has a spastic hand, and he can't fucking do anything. It's the same stupidity applied, whether it's the magic doing it or not. It's the same stupidity.

And then, oh, you're supposed to see him walk away. It illustrates that he doesn't actually have magic. Listen, I like the guy, I'm happy he has a job, I try to enjoy his segments, you can also call out when things go too far on the stupidity scale, and yet even though the referee's hand, we can't directly say that we saw a lightning bolt leave Dan Housen and cause his hand to seize up on him or whatever the hell was happening there, it's one step up from the invisible man in my eyes. Well, it's the, I mean, we saw that episode of the Andy Griffith show when we were kids.

how Gomer and Barney were fooled by the coincidences after they had discovered the curse of Count S. Van Delecki. Oh, it's just, it's no. But that's the problem is that, I guess, wrestling fans used to be the ones that were the most offended when they saw just really silly shit that was just, it was silly. I was like, right? They were the ones most offended because it was, it was bullshit. And now they're like, it's supposed to be silly.

If you were born in 2000 and you're a 26-year-old wrestler now, you grew up seeing the worst of Vince McMahon's stuff after he became a billionaire, after his ego was completely out of check, after the attitude era, that really bad period of time, it normalized all the same,

all the stupid stuff. You know, for everything bad we can say, and I'm not a big fan of it, and you were involved in it, you're not a big fan of it, the Undertaker dying and flying away. That was like a one-off in a way. It wasn't like they replayed it over and over and over again.

Like, he died, he went away, weighed away from the flyback. But the backstage segments, the bad comedy, the adults acting like children, all of these things are all symptoms of McMenie. over wrestling creative since the year 2000.

And unfortunately, if you're a kid who grew up watching wrestling, you had that, you had TNA, maybe, maybe eventually somehow you discover a Ring of Honor or a New Japan or something, but you more than likely had W.W.E. Maybe TNA, which was always kind of copying WWE, whether it was Russo there or not. There was always an element of, even when things were kind of going good, oh no they're going to bring this person back or oh no they're doing the always i remember after after viti ru it actually got worse if that's possible you know for all the snobbery

you see with the modern crop of AEW fans or whatever is remember these are the same people cheering for the joey ryan penis druids at all in boy that doesn't make the highlight reels anymore does it that was adam page's match i believe too if you want to talk about someone associated with Joey Ryan there, but the point is, they like their stupid shit, too. They just wanted to be their stupid shit, and it's all based on what Vince McMahon got away with when he had a monopoly, and he got stupider and stupider,

and we haven't gotten away with it. And I hate the lump Danhausen in with that, but Danhausen is kind of an end result of thinking that a character like that could work on a wrestling show. It wouldn't happen without all that. If Bill Watts or anyone, I hate to use Bill Watts, but if any other wrestling promoter had somehow come up with a product that had beaten WWE and gotten to the turn of the century,

I don't think the wrestling we see today would have as much silliness and bad creative and just the layout of WWE shows, and that actually goes into the layout of TNA shows, and you could argue a big influence over Tony Con. And that's the problem. I went on and on, and I apologize. Well, no, well, this kind of leads in to, what we're going to talk about next, but to put a button, as they say, I found a button,

to put a button or a period on what you just said, I agree with you. It's that, for lack of a better word, for lack of a better analogy, I should say, the guys who get into the business reflect the business of the time where they were kids watching it now more than ever, because since it didn't really, the foundation of it, the concept of it, didn't change for 100 years, so everything was fine. And then suddenly, like you said,

everything becomes all about Vince's weirdness and sports entertainment, and these kids grow up seeing this, and they think that this was the way possibly that it's always been done. And there's nothing wrong with it. And they'd understand that they do things regularly that would have gotten them pummeled by the entire locker room

and kicked in a ditch in the back of the building. And just like, you know, oh, let's do this. It used to be that wrestling was presented as this wacky sport that took place in the real world. And these people were over the top, but they were serious. And every now and then, and again,

on what territory or eventually what company, you saw silliness, but it didn't mean it was overwhelming silliness. And it went the other way to the point where this shows in a lot of respect feel silly. The only thing that really stands out is when someone gets serious. When CM Punk does a serious promo, that gets people talking. And to me, that's just one of the things missing. There's no reason why WWEs feuds and booking and all this stuff, can get, there's no reason they can't get rid of the silly shit. It doesn't draw anyone new in and it doesn't hold people more than serious professional wrestling storylines.

I'll get off my soapbox, I'm sorry. Well, watch out stepping down. It's a long step. But there's another related subject because we talked about guys getting into business emulating what they grew up watching. We can thank, in large parts. my old friend Paul E for ECW for popularizing garbage wrestling. And I'm not saying that all ECW was was garbage wrestling,

but I have said before that all a lot of people took out of it. It was that it was garbage wrestling. Because it seems like that's what was emulated over and over and over again, ad nauseum, whether it be table breaking or the whole shebang. And I've always also said that I was against most of that because besides the fact of the, you know, furniture and the fucking bullshit like that doesn't work with you and people get hurt. And it's stupid and unrealistic. It also costs you in other ways.

And that's still happening because they just announced this past week that after one of these hardcore wrestling events. It was ruthless pro wrestling. I tried to look them up, but they blocked me on Twitter, I guess, in the first ever preemptive block imagining what I would say, because I didn't know they existed, right? But they ran the Berwyn Eagles Club,

which Berwyn is a suburb of Chicago, and our friends, Fingooly, as we mentioned earlier, has made it famous. But there's the Eagles Club. It's one of these buildings that seats I don't know, is it 500 people or whatever it seats that has hosted

indie wrestling in the Chicago area for 20 years now and all different kinds of the various companies, whatever the fuck. But apparently this is a death match garbage wrestling fucking mud show group.

with a bunch of fat fucking tattooed guys with fake belts over their shoulders and pictures of them bleeding because in their minds, when they show that to the fucking local meth dealer, they can brag that they're as tough as Stone Coal Steve Austin or whatever these people's issue is. And whatever the kind of crowd is that they draw to see

people bleed and break glass and light tubes over themselves and be fat fucking tattooed guys with fake belts. That crowd. They either did a fake stabbing or a real stabbing or a fake stabbing to cover up a real fight or whatever the fuck that they did at these outlaw shows between these fake tattooed

fucking fat fucking guys, Brian, and they involved, then I guess it got to buildings, lawyers and or the city involved or whatever, and they just said, fuck it, no more wrestling of any kind in our building anymore, no way, no how. There was no question anywhere in there. I don't know what you want me to say about this. I have here a report from the wrestling news covering this incident. They've got some wonderful correspondence over there.

That's right. you can hear it at the wrestling news.com, wherever you find your favorite podcast. A long-running independent wrestling venue in suburban Chicago is closing its doors to wrestling after fallout from an alleged stabbing incident at a recent event, according to F4W online. The Berwyn Eagles Club in Berwyn, Illinois,

has hosted hundreds of shows over the past 22 years from groups like Shimmer, all-American wrestling, black label pro, and GCW, but will be housing just one more upcoming AAW show on April 24th. The decision comes after an incident that occurred during a show in late March

by death match promotion Ruthless Pro during which wrestler Cruel was originally alleged to have been stabbed by a fan leading to an assault on the fan from several wrestlers. Some, such as GCW promoter Brett Lauderdale, have voiced doubts that the stabbing even occurred. After the Eagles Club canceled GCW's scheduled June 20th show at the venue,

Lauderdale took the social media and declared, and this is a quote, this was directly caused by an incident, the fake stabbing, that took place at another promotions event, which has caused the town, lawyers and police to be involved. It's truly a shame to see the Berwyn Eagles and 20 plus years of Chicago wrestling history come to an end like this. Now I did just pause one second.

And that's the promoter from GCW. When the owner of garbage championship wrestling comes out and says, oh, this is a sad, sad day that these people couldn't behave in a fucking... That's, I don't know what to say. Is that the end of the news story there? That's the end of the news story. This happened a little while ago because tons of people started sending us the footage

and it was one of those things where you don't see a stabbing, you just see a bunch of people attacking someone. You couldn't even tell if it was a work or not. Well, because everybody was just flailing around and fucking, you also couldn't tell who the wrestlers were and who the fans were. and because the wrestlers were wrestling in the same fucking clothing that the goddamn fans were wearing watching the wrestlers wrestle. That's why it was meaningless,

but there was no like stabbing like, oh my God, I'm stabbed, he stabbed him. It's just a bunch of fat fucking tattooed guys yelling at each other and fucking with each other. And the one thing that we know is that everybody in today's modern age knows that this is all a bullshit work so it's not like the heel got enough heat that the fucking fan came out of the audience

to stab him to save the baby face it was two fat fucking tattooed guys yelling at each other to begin with and then a bunch of people beat the one guy up so they say well he stabbed my friends so the eight of them could beat him up and then here's the problem there's eight fucking wrestlers

and nobody knew how to fucking fight. And besides that, the whole point of this is that this place was even, we're so committed to hosting wrestling, they would even host death match wrestling, which is, you know, what's next, biting the heads off chickens in the parking line.

But then they managed to fuck that up. They got in such a goddamn deal with nobody to prevent it or tell anybody not to fucking do it, whether work or shoot, that they got kicked, they got everybody, the entire business kicked out of a building, has been whole wrestling for 20 years.

Because that was too much that we don't want these people involved, or we don't want these people in our fucking building kind of thing. It's not worth the fucking trouble, which is this, I don't know what kind of people would go to a goddamn place that would willingly host

this death match wrestling bullshit. You just know it's waiting for something to fucking happen. So just to go back to what this is because I'm still unsure, even though I watched the video and I just read what I read, was the fake stabbing that there was no stabbing and the wrestlers made up a stabbing

because they wanted to beat up this fan or was there a fake stabbing off camera for some sort of weird angle what exactly is the fake stabbing? I don't know and I assume that will come out as part of the

lawsuit or a court process or whatever the fuck's involved here or maybe they'll just all go crawl back in their hole. But again, that's the thing that I always preach because of seeing it

happened to other people and or it had businesses trying to overcome it with issues with in OVW when I first got here I was told well because of Ian Rotten and all that bullshit and blood

flying and stupid nonsense in front of children you can't have wrestling in a National Guard Army in Indiana anymore. Rip Rogers couldn't even get to one in Seymour because it came from the whoever the head of the National Guard Army may be because of the bad publicity

from this garbage. Or you get go back to Smoggy Mountain Wrestling. The people in East Tennessee, the schools and the high schools, elementary schools in the small towns, the gyms and that part of the country.

They hadn't been burnt by hardcore wrestling. They didn't have that then, but it had been outlaw mud shows that caused a problem, didn't have insurance, didn't provide what they advertised, was just a fucking mess.

And we had to overcome that stigma with a lot of, hey, we're legitimate and you can see us on TV and blah, blah, blah. Because already it was limiting the places that you could present wrestling.

And you could, it's not that vintage of a problem. Remember when I was at MLW that night at Milwaukee? Who was the little fat fucking guy? What's his name? God damn hit Edwards with the baseball bat. I've lost

the little wardhog fellow in MLW, Brian. I know who you're talking about. I don't remember the name. Sammy Callahan. Yes. He's the, he's the one because he went around in the Falls, anywhere but he went around doing

shit that they told him not to do with the building bleachers and shit and broke stuff and the building got mad and they fired Callahan what everybody blamed me. But Cincinnati television that Jerry Jarrett couldn't get after the Sheik had gone out of

business because the TV station, the general manager kept the tape of the Sheik close up cutting the job guy's head with the razor blade. It just depends. What if what was the arena? It doesn't even matter.

But the arena that the AEW pay-per-view was in where dipshit shoved the syringe through fuckwad's face. Oh, I thought you were going to go in a different direction. I don't remember which arena that was. Well, but okay, let's say that the building manager just said, wait a minute, we're a goddamn major arena in a large metropolitan city, and we're hosting a show where they're puncturing each of, other let them do that down to goddamn

down in the highlands or whatever at some fucking club it in some way somebody can be offended you never know till you try but whether it's big or small this is the kind of

thing that harms wrestling in the long run because you lose venues or you lose TV or you lose a sponsor or you lose whatever because you just do stupid, obnoxious, blatant shit that you don't need to do.

Does that make any sense? It doesn't. We talked about it a little while back. Not saying Dennis Caruso was perfect. But with Dennis, he understood, you don't want to lose your buildings, and there kind of has to be a serious-ish person to deal with everyone. And with a lot of these indie companies, again, that's just one indie promoter I'm talking about. and it's a different era of independent wrestling.

Do any of them wear a suit? Do any of them have a blazer? I'm not saying these are like, be all and all things, but is anyone a serious person who actually makes money anywhere, or is it just a wrestling fan who's a goof, who knows other wrestlers,

and they can do a goofy show? I think that's one of the problems. You don't have a lot of serious promoters out there. You know what Adam Pierce used to tell a few of the guys in Ring of Honor when he was the book, and we had to go to Canada and there was certain people who might have,

this was before I was even one of them, but there was certain people who might have an issue going across the border. He would put him in a car with him and he'd say, okay, boys, let's put a shirt with a collar on and some slacks and go across the border and tell them we're going to go entertain some people

and look like something instead of this fucking carload of, holy shit, look at that t-shirt. we better question them for six hours. And it's, you know, but again, I'm not saying that everybody has to show up at the building. I'm not trying to put the dress coat in like Vince had or whatever. You got to walk across the street from your hotel to the building at 11 o'clock in the morning. Vince, what did you to wear a goddamn jacket? That's a little excessive.

But you, there needs to be at least some element. A promoter who isn't a slum. A promoter who's not a slob, some elements of goddamn structure in place at any show so that the talent is not just a bunch of guys that got together for a, hey, kids, let's put on a death match show. And you're just allowed to have this kind of interaction with the fucking fans to begin with when it's not like some guy has lost his mind and dives in the ring to stab somebody. it's your standing there, your fucking wrestlers yelling at this fucking guy, and he's yelling back. But that's the kind of death match type of thing

that, again, there's all kinds of way you can offend people with your show in the death match aspect, or you can, because you've got guys that grew up thinking that was cool to break furniture, or you can offend people, because you grew up when wrestling was supposed to be fucking silly. But either way, that's kind of why we're in the position we're in.

And the whole business, Brian, go ahead, put your period on it, my friend. Well, I was just going to say we're talking about promoters. And if this really was the wrestlers beating up a fan, I mean, someone told me it was for something the fan said online, I don't know, but... See, that's the thing. Like any of the boys would... at a legitimate show would know what the fan had said online. God damn it.

I don't know. But the point is there's a whole lot of people need to be putting a rocket ship and sent away from the business. That's my point. I'm sorry. Well, I was just going to say the whole dadgum thing, Brian. The whole badgum thing has gone to the dogs. It's gone to the dogs, but not in a good way,

because you wouldn't want to feed your dogs such a fluvia and Drek as is foisted off on the modern pro wrestling fan. You wouldn't want to feed that to a dog. You want to take care of the poochies, the puppies, do little babies. So you want to feed them the quality food like you would feed yourself for those you love because you love them.

And that's why they love you. So instead of dishing out the garbage championship wrestling version of dog food, see our friends at Sundays for Dogs. Yeah. At Sundaysfor Dogs.com because every day is a Sunday for your dog when they're dining. You know, over in the United Kingdom, what is it? It's a Sunday lie-in or is it a lie-about?

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I drove through three feet of fucking snow to get from Raw to the next night's TV taping, whatever we were taping the next night after Raw in those days, syndication or whatever. And it looked fine in Seattle and Spokane had three feet of fucking snow. Anyhow, James says, and Brian, this may be a good topic for you as well

with your territory wrestling mind. But we were just talking about some people have grown up just being used to what they're seeing now. James says, I've been a big fan for years. Thank you to Brian and you for all you do. Question, can you break down the differences between no holes barred, falls count anywhere, no disqualification, and street fight matches? I've long felt that companies use these interchangeably, but I wonder about the intended differences between these match styles.

And that's true. Now, I guess the fans, many of the fans have forgotten when it wasn't, there wasn't just, oh, here's tonight's Falls Count Anywhere match. Like, there was one on every program. Or that here's the, you know, the dreaded notice qualification in six out of the eight matches because of some reason or another. And the whole idea of stipulations in the territory days and in the history of wrestling even before the territory days,

all up until like you said earlier, everybody just wanted to copy Vince McMahon's weird vision of wrestling, like the punishment had to fit the crime, the stipulation had to fit the match, the participants and the booking of the participants and how they got there. In jet, does that make, in other words, the fucking easiest and most age-old stipulation of wrestling

was two guys go to a time limit draw. They come back the next week, either with no time limit or just a longer time limit. That's a stipulation. Or if a guy got disqualified, You came back the next week with a rematch, but no disqualification. We're this where the champion can't get himself disqualified to, you know, to weasel his way out of losing his title. Or he wants to hit me with a fucking chair.

Well, I can hit him with a chair and I can't get disqualification. Neither one of us can. I can give him a taste of his own medicine. That's the simplest kind of stipulation that's age old. and from the very start was involved in a wrestling business. And then over a period of time, other things started to be established based on when they drew someplace,

either a guy that was involved in it would go someplace else and take that idea with him, or a promoter would hear about it and do his own thing. And a bookers would go from place to place and spread different matches around. but Brian, I'll let you jump in, but is it safe to say that originally the idea of having a stipulation to any match was not just to have guys in a match like that,

but to make special rules to fit what had happened between those two guys. I mean, that's pretty precisely what it almost always was. Now you see matches where we've had, where we review them, and it's no DQ or anything goes or Falls Can anywhere, they're all the same at this point. But we ask ourselves, what caused this? Have we seen them have a singles match before this? And sometimes it's just, hey, let's do this match.

Maybe they feel like the gimmick is a bigger draw or more of an interest than the actual people in the match who would be having a regular match. It's something everyone over relies on now. And again, It has to mean something. Now we just see, you know, Adam Page's thing is the Texas death match

because he's from nowhere near Texas. I mean, you know what I mean? Like everything kind of made sense in a way. Went to a 60-minute draw. We're going to go 90-minute time limit next week. Doesn't mean you're going to go 90 minutes. But now stipulations are as much a draw maybe in the promoter's eyes,

in Tony and Triple H's eyes, than an actual match with the same participants. whether or not there's reason behind it or not. And that's the thing is which comes first, the chicken or the egg. It is, are the WWE and AEW both in the position now with their, their television,

their stars, their exposure at various levels, their cachet in the industry, would they pretty much be doing the same business if they dropped half the gimmick matches they have? Then the answer is, probably yeah because

that's the thing is they have even been programmed that everything has to be a gimmick match and I remember in Ring of Honor when Sinclair had bought the thing we were debuting live at a new town and Gary Jester

called us said Hunter was Delirious was the Booker and I was the producer and Gary Jester calls said well can we put a cage in there. Like it was 20 years before that. And just because there was a cage match, that was going to, oh, my God, we've got to go.

They see cage matches on every indie goddamn show. All of this gets prostituted to where the promotions use it as a crutch because they think that's just the way they're supposed to do it. And the, you know, the boys have fun doing it. I don't know. but again at some point there was logic to stipulations when they were presented you could even have the same match

meant different things in different parts of the country because if Ivan Koloff was a specialist at the Russian chain match but if they'd been in East Tennessee it was a Tennessee chain match because Whitey and Ron had done it but the Wahoo McDaniel had the Indian strap match, but so did Chief Billy Red Cloud before him and fucking Indian wrestlers before that.

But baby faces and some heels would get a specialty match that they would carry from territory to territory, and if they had a six or month or a year run in a territory, maybe they'd build up to do one or two of them. And I'm not talking about at all. I mean, in any market, they might do the house shows every night for three weeks, but each market would only see it once.

And even if a match wasn't tied to a particular wrestler, maybe it's because in Amarillo, Dory Funk Sr. had gotten the Texas death match over, whether he invented it or not or just popularized the modern name rules, et cetera, you would put them in the ultimate match, Amarillo would be a Texas death match. But in Florida,

it might be inside the steel cage. Or in somewhere else, it might be the street fight, which was, come dressed as you are. And anything you've got, you've got, blue jeans, cowboy boots, your belt, belt buckle,

anything you've got in your pockets, insinuating brass knuckles or chain whatever. But if Dusty was over in the territory, Florida, Carolinas, because he had the John Wayne lean to him, it wouldn't be a street fight, it'd be a bunkhouse match, because that was the way they came to fighting a bunkhouse,

the cowboys. But it's the same fucking rules. But just like a triple threat. I don't know about Paul E. He was doing his own thing. But when I had the first one, the three-way match Tracy Smothers, dirty white boy Brian Lee in Knoxville, it wasn't ever said that it was no disqualification. And it wasn't.

They just didn't do anything to get disqualified in front of the referee. And it was elimination by pinfall or I guess submission, but nobody submitted anyway. So it didn't matter. but we didn't stack and no disqualification because that would have been a hat on a hat. Why, when you're having the first match of a kind and it's already a gimmick, then fucking make it no disqualification. Maybe you'll want to do it and come back with it again.

No holds barred is another way of saying no disqualification, but even that didn't used to mean no time limit. Falls Count anywhere was in the really, in the modern era because they started fighting on the floor, which again has gotten so stupid and repetitious. And if you're in a big building, a lot of people get pissed because they can't see. Falls count anywhere meant that you could count the fall anywhere

because the guys previously had had a match the week or the month before and fought out of the ring and into the fucking crowd. And holy shit, we don't ever see anything like that. so this time I can pin you in the concession stand if I want to and you'd see that one time a fucking year if that but they were all different based on now I've done the soliloquy Brian they were all different based on what had happened between those two guys and how to make a rematch attractive by either nullifying what the heel used to an advantage or amplifying the baby face strengths, his strongest match or his, you know, the, the manager is hung in a cage.

The people, if I interfered in a match, then they would come back with a regular match, not no DQ, not no time limit, but they'd put me at a cage and hang me over the ring. And yes, that was a little excessive. being in a cage would have probably have kept me out, but all the people wanted to pay $10 bucks to see me scared shitless hanging over the ring. But that doesn't mean it has to be a goddamn

Falls Count anywhere street fight in the fucking ring now. We have made this match special based on previous fucking actions. I yield the floor. Well, I think you made a good point. And unfortunately, I don't think anything's going to change. who's going to make the changes?

Who's going to be the promoter who says that this isn't the smart way to do it and who's going to be the person strong enough to tell the modern wrestler they're not going to do what they want to do? Because it seems like a lot of people want to do things, but not a lot of people understand the psychology or thought behind why things were introduced or why they were done or why they should be done and what's the best way to get the maximum impact out of it? I understand that all the boys would just get them.

us a fucking, you know, the chaos in Canada or football field fuckery or whatever they're calling the match, the anarchy in the arena, whatever, just let us do everything we can ever think of and all we want to do. Well, that's fucking great for that. Now you've done everything you can think of and all you want to do instead of on, as I said, making rules for matches individual based on previous interactions between these competitors so that it makes sense to the people. You identify the one or two turning points in their previous interactions, and some way or

another, the baby face gets to nullify that, or perhaps the heel still has an advantage that the baby face has to overcome, but it makes fucking sense based on their track record and their relationship with each other and their feud or their rivalry or whatever the kids call it. And then

you can build that until you get to an ultimate blowoff where you haven't let them do just every goddamn thing, every match every week. And this is another reason why Tony's insane booking philosophy,

involves not really having a lot of rematches. Well, no wonder, because they can't fucking calm these guys down to not do everything every time, so what do you come back with? Instead of identifying one or two things that you could hang your hat on, as Jim Ross would say, that that son of a bitch, okay, the super kick is barred. Can you imagine that dreaded stipulation?

But again, that's booking. That's when you book. That's when every match is different on the card and everybody's journey to that match is different. And every finish of the match is different. At every goddamn, in some cases, stipulation, the match is different. Some stipulations of matches need to be that there are none. It's this guy versus that guy.

But that's the art of booking. it's not just, oh, let's have a bunch of crazy fucking matches. And any variation from a normal one-on-one or tag team match is now no disqualification by the goddamn, just by the announcement of it. It doesn't make sense. I apologize for my goddamn dissertation. You should be sorry. Look at the state of the industry.

Look at what your generation did. It was a my, my, my generation. It was some of woof. What are you, that was the Sundays for dogs commercial. Where was your bark? There was no W. It was oof, oof, more than woof. Thought you were trying to howl at the moon here.

Well, Brian, speaking of anything goes, before we talk about something else going, a way that is, I just got, I saw this. I just saw this. It's on the Twitter machine, but it is possible. the first mention of Shane McMahon as a member of the community in the newspaper up there in Connecticut. And Alan Cheapshot has tweeted this out from 1989. Would you like to hear about Shane's appearance in a newspaper? Let's hear about this.

Three Greenwich men, Greenwich, Connecticut, were arrested early Saturday morning in connection with vandalism to more than a dozen mailboxes on local residential streets. Charged with 16 separate counts of third-degree criminal mischief were Shane B. McMahon of Hedgerow Lane, William T. Green,

of Havamire Place, and Jacques R. Lienhart of Bruce Park Avenue. They just moved into town. All three were released on promises to appear at Superior Court in Stanford on February 21st. They were accused of damaging a total of 16 mailboxes on Old Stonebridge Road. I think that may have been where Vince lived at a time. Parsonage Road, Clapboard Ridge, and Dingletown Roads.

Well, somewhere they lived. You just said Shane McMahon. You said where he lives, didn't you? Oh, of Hedge Row Lane. that was different then well i don't know but that sticks out in my head anyway it was all either late friday evening or early saturday morning but listen to this a pickup truck driven by mcmahon was stopped at about 138 a ms saturday as it was driving away from old stone bridge road five minutes after a resident there reported vandalism to his mailbox inside the truck police found a case of beer

the lot number of which matched those on empty beer cans found near some of the damaged mailboxes. McMahon was additionally charged with possession of alcohol in a motor vehicle by a minor, police said. But listen to this. I didn't give this before. You know how old they all three were? 19. 19. They're like 14.

And they get they. they drink beer and bust up mailboxes. They were 19 fucking years old. And I like Shane and he's a wonderful person. But Jesus Christ, talk about being a disrespectful rich kid. He didn't have any bills to pay. Is that a federal offense if you do something to someone's mailbox? No, I think you have to, you know, actually,

that may be a loophole because it's supposedly at least not done, something, one of those things, well, that's just not done. For anybody but an authorized United States Postal Service employee to put something in your mailbox, because that's why you're not supposed to get newspapers, you'd have a separate paper box back in the days when people actually read the newspaper. That's a paper box, because they'd put the newspaper in. there because they weren't allowed to use the mailbox. So is it a federal crime to put something in your mailbox, but only third-degree criminal

mischief on a local basis to beat the shit out of it with a baseball bat? Should we get Stephen P. New on here, clear this up? When the officer asked Shane McMahon, he said, I haven't driven this thing in so long. I didn't know how fast it goes. I was trying to get to my granddaughter's birthday in Westport. I impregnated her mother when I was eight. So anyway, but that's, you know, the McMans have been making news in Connecticut for nigh on to 50 years now.

Where was the Mean Street Posse? Yeah, where would? I guess that's he had to quit hanging around with old Jacques. Willie Green and Shock. And I think he had to, he was hanging around. the wrong crowd. Then he found Rodney and Pete Gas and all right. Enough frivolity and tomfoolery. We got to talk some serious business

Brian. T&A is now taking the mantle of the most unpopular fucking thing since crotch rot to all of the the various online fans around the world that actually know that this is happening. Because they pulled their talent from working with some other people's talent at some of the independent events taking place not only on WrestleMania weekend, but I think one or two of them maybe is even some couple weeks after that or whatever, but basically matches were

arranged on a handful of shows between T&A talent, which I understand. that they let their guys that they have under contract work for other promoters, and they should since they don't run any fucking shows to speak of. But the T&A guys were going to be competing

against guys who technically were under the AEW umbrella. And TNA being a, well, they're not a wholly owned subsidiary. How about a bottom sub in the BDSC? relationship with the WWE

to aware that they don't want the intermingling of the races and the species there between WWE talent and AEW talent. So my, I, I don't know how this happened. And it's not that I'm surprised that WWE probably told TNA to pull these people out of this shit. I'm not surprised at that.

I'm surprised at how could they not have known that these matches have been announced and promoted and talked about in the various news sites well here's T&A's so-and-so going to wrestle

NXT's so-and-so or blah blah blah how did it get this far to where it's less than 10 days away and they're canceling shit well again everything was approved everything was approved until it wasn't by Carlos Silver

or TNA management. No, that's, no, that's where they made their first fucking mistake. Carlos Silva does not fucking run TNA anymore when it comes to matters like this. If he didn't realize that if he's letting his talent work with AEW guys, with this relationship he has with the WVE, then that he shouldn't have gone to Stanford via phone or however they communicate these days

that, hey, before I let this guy take this shot over here against this guy, do you give a shit? And they say, yeah, or nay, then he's a fucking moron. So the question is, is Carlos Silva a moron, or did they lie to him and go back on his word in Stanford because somebody higher up than who said yes said no.

So who did approve this? And again, we're not talking about to the best of my knowledge, televised events. Maybe best case scenario is a live stream, but maybe not even that. These are purely independent events. One of them may be more high profile than the other is because it's near WrestleMania.

But it doesn't seem to make much sense, especially after everything was announced and when fans are made at TNA, it's one thing. When you're seeing wrestlers openly come out and rip this, that's a whole other thing. Well, yes, no, because the guys are losing out on a payoff and whatever the fuck, and they wanted to, MJF wanted to have this match with Nick Nimeth

that's being canceled for New Jersey or New York or one of the, wherever the fuck they were going to go in May. and again, who's the guys in WrestleMania weekend, the main event for somebody's show. It was a memorial show, apparently, for someone. Who were the guys? The guys were Rickettsay versus Leon Slater. Okay, so Rickshaw, obviously, Rikershay is with AEW.

Leon Slater is with NXT, is that not correct? No, he's with TNA. That's right, with TNA. He's appeared on NXT. He's up here. They had been together and whatever, they were friends. They wanted to have this match. They'd been together in NXT, whatever the backstory is.

The Talon wanted to have the matches. And I'm not even blaming Rikershay. You know, they went to work with their friends, whatever the case. But if Carlos Silva did not realize that he should make sure, especially Rickashy who's actively on you know fucking Tony's television and MJF who is Tony's world champion is it okay if I have my guys

you know on these outdates work with these guys then Carlos Silva is one to blame whether he you know that he would not think to clear that is insane if they were working with goddamn Fred Smith and Joe Jones, big shit. But because of it's wrestling and

he's working with the WWE now if that did never cross his mind, I don't know why the fuck it didn't cross anybody else's. And how could it go this far to get advertised this long until the WWE caught wind of it? That's my questions I'm asking. Apparently Moose was also pulled from a Maple Leaf Pro show

during WrestleMania week, and that's, I believe, Scott DeMore. You can understand why there may be some problems with TNA and Scott DeMore, but who knows? But this is kind of going back to when you were with Ring of Honor years ago. And all of a sudden, guys who were with Ring of Honor who went to TNA couldn't work for Ring of Honor anymore, and neither could anyone else. If you're an indie promoter right now, would you book anyone from TNA?

Well, this has always been the problem. in that in the modern way of the wrestling industry, the way that things turned into for so long, that you ever, there was no territory. It wasn't this guy's territory, that guy's territory. It's the whole world all at the same time, because everybody's either on the internet amongst the hardcore fans or streaming or reporting the news or whatever.

So even when you would have talent under contract, would be using them for the majority of their, the dates that they worked and paying them the majority of their income, unless you were big enough, you couldn't dominate their schedule. So the Ring of Honor guys had to take out dates. And they would go somewhere and do some goofy shit that people would hear about whether wrestling a girl

or the whole PWG thing were a bunch of, marks in the business, wanting to get together and have matches with their friends in front of people. And you couldn't control the way they were used, whether they heal or baby face, consistent with your television. And how they were presented consistent with your television on these other shows. So that's why T&A got big for their britches and didn't want the guys working for Ring of Honor, because in all honesty, they were being used better in Ring of Honor and having better matches in Ring of Honor.

And at the time, you know, the audiences were far apart because of T&A's television, but goddamn Ring of Honor I out drew them at the fucking houses. But the point being, if you're going to run a wrestling promotion, you always want as much control, a serious national wrestling promotion with television and you have talent under contract,

you always want as much control over them as possible. And when you say, okay, guys, you can work out dates. We have right of first refusal on your dates, but you need to monitor to make sure that they're not being presented in the way that would be detrimental to your program because you do have, it's like the old days of the booking office. The booking office in Nashville would send somebody to Anniston, Alabama, because they were on a big-time Nashville TV.

But it wouldn't be Jackie Fargo going to Aniston to do a job for fucking Cooter in a second match. You want some control. That's just business. But again, with the way that things are for Carlos Silva or anybody else in TNA not to have known that if they're going to be working with the WWE,

they need to clear this specific instance. They don't care if, you know, TNA's old Dick fucking Tucker goes to work with some guy in Aniston. The WVE doesn't care about that, but if the guy in Aniston is a regular on Tony Kahn's TV and people are going to stream it or have video

or just because fuck him, we're closing the straight of Stanford to the boats carrying talent that might benefit Tony Kahn. That's not a surprise. So why didn't they work this out beforehand instead of getting the guy's hopes up, selling tickets to the fans that want to see it,

and causing this goddamn degree of embarrassment at this late date. Or, as I said, there's one of two ways to look at this. If the WWE cleared it and then went back on it, then damn them all to hell, they're assholes. And if nobody thought to clear it with them, and apparently Carlos Silva is the puckered sphincter. I have a few quotes here. I see the wrestling news reported that Tony,

and the media call for Dynasty expressed frustration over the new TNA edict indicating that it had caught him by surprise and he fully supported cooperation among wrestling promotions. Scott

Brigante, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, the owner of the California-based independent promotion West Coast Pro took to social media and here's what he wrote working with talent on an independent level after clearing everything and doing business only to have said talent pulled after the fact high or low profile gives me zero reason

to work with anyone from said company making said arrangements. When you have an understanding... I like the specificity this guy shows in his statements. When you have an understanding and it gets cleared, all parties involved have weighed risks. To get it cleared by multiple channels and by multiple companies to then have said company go back on it

is garbage. And a memorial show at that. So that's the quote there from Scott Brigante and this has just been emailed to us. Is this from today? It's from today. Pat Buck I guess in an interview

I know Pat Buck from the past he spent some time at OBW right after I had left but he's a nice young man He works for AEW as an agent I believe but he also owns Createa Pro which was the wrestling school that trained MJF and Chris Statlander and others and also I believe was promoting the MJF

Nick Nemeth match on Long Island I don't usually speak on things like this but this one's too ridiculous to ignore. TNA, specifically Carlos Silva, forced a change to the main event of our creator pro show three weeks out after it was already approved and promoted. Not sure who that helps. And he goes on from there, he says that maybe Carlos Silver

could learn something from Tony Kahn about how to protect your brand while helping the overall scene it's times like this I'm glad to work for someone who actually champions the entire sport not tries to shrink it well let's face it also tony con doesn't say no to anybody about anything and oh you really want to do it it's your best friend go ahead work for my competitor and by the way tony con's guys were going over in all these matches if we're going to be honest about it too so i mean there is that little issue but yeah and that's the thing is you've got

two opposite sides of the of the two extremes, two polar opposites in that Tony believes that they should all, all the wrestling promotions should have the kumbaya like that big event in Japan where all the promotions got together and the WWA KATKO is like, fuck everybody, we're going to control this whole goddamn world. So there's got to be some friction in the middle between those two states. That was a hell of a show. You got to see Kenta Kabashi as well as Ra Yuma Go versus the Nazi robots, Nazi aliens, I believe is what it was. You got everything from Japan on that one show. But what do you think of, I guess, one last thing about this? What do you think of Carlos Silva

specifically being called out? Well, Carlos, oh, I feel like doing the Razor Ramon shaky fingers thing, ooh, like anybody's scared of Carlos Silva or the boys are scared at Carlos Silva. Silva or to be honest if Carlos Silva fired anybody from T&A would that be the biggest job they'd ever fucking lost? It's no that's

it has to be that TNA approved this and Carlos Silva for better or worse for him at this point runs TNA so if he approved it without checking with the WWE it's his fault

if he checked with the WWE and they said yes and now for whatever reason they've waited this long to say no then it's their fault but it's one of those two fucking things so we're going to have to wait to find out which one that is but I just I can't imagine that he would have thought that that was going to fly enough to let it get this far without contacting them I think someone needs to steal that baseball hat off his of his head. That'll teach him a lesson. He's another one of these new guys, maybe the guys talked him into it.

Swipe the cap, that's what I say. But maybe the guys talked him into it. Like, oh, yeah, the boys want to do this. It'll be a great thing. And he's new to wrestling and didn't understand what fuck he was actually doing. I don't know, but it's crazy, crazy to me. But his goose may be cooked, Brian. He may be just dyed, fried, and laid to the side.

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I think they put a hex. I think they put a spell on these pans, Brian. This is the greatest cookware that has ever existed on the planet Earth. When I heard about this instantly, when you told me, I told Stacey, she, well, my God, hex-clad. And you know, Suzanne the same thing. Oh, my God, hex-clad. And I've never actually seen them in person,

but now that we have gotten the samples, this stuff it combines stainless steel cookware is great it's heavy duty to last forever but goddamn you got to take a fucking wire brush and a SOS pad all this stuff

to clean it and the non-stick stuff scratches and peels and wears out and the heat just doesn't work but this is like both it's an amazing engineered hex-clad hexagonal design

and as soon as I got it, Brian, I took the frying pan and you can use lower heat. I got a sear because if there's one thing I know how to make, it's a cheeseburger. I got a sear on my cheeseburger on both sides in seven minutes over medium heat with no splatter because you don't have to turn it up to high so you're not blowing grease all over the goddamn kitchen

in your face, I have to usually wash my clothes after I've fried things because I do get vigorous. It's like magic. Well, don't laugh at me. I'm trying to keep from being greasy. Listen, these are nice. You know, Suzanne's more of the cooking type than I am, but I like looking at them and just touching them.

They're so unique, and she went crazy over them. You want to talk about something to make your wife happy. Hex clad, and apparently makes delicious food because she's been cooking on them all week. We got the wok, we got the sauce pan, we got another flying saucer thing, and everything is fantastic. Everyone's happy here.

Oh, and the eggs don't stick. They're slickered and whale shit and ice flow. And again, you get the convenience of non-stick with the performance of stainless steel. You get the great sear, you get heat control, easy cleanup. And again, after I finish the burgers, and let's face it, if you're going to fry some, something, 90% of the time, it's going to be a burger.

I've got a pickle jar. That's not a provable fact. Oh, come on. Are you at a, are you an American, are you an American man? If you're an American man, if you put something in a frying pan, it's going to be a fucking cheeseburger. 90% is a cow must die, Brian. But I've got a pickle.

I got a pickle jar. I got a jar here. I got an empty pickle jar that I used to collect my grease. and normally it's a probably you've got to scrape all the shit out of the pan and the bits and the scrubby parts and everything and into this jar you just turn the hex clad pan up and it just pours right into the jar and boom easy clean up Gordon Ramsey uses hex clad and doesn't even cuss about it and they come with a lifetime warranty so it is the last set of pots and pans that you're ever going to have to

buy all different shapes and sizes they got in the 12 piece set in your ultimate all in one cookware upgrade throw all that other shit out it's probably it's leaching brown is what it's doing all that defective non-stick cheap shit you've got from the cheap pans you've got is breaking up in your scrambled eggs and your goddamn stir fry and you're eating teflon no wonder so many a generation of people is going to be born if they're not already with some type of teflon disfigurement so that's what's a matter with a lot of people these days let's get back to these wonderful wonderful hex clots and pans

pots and pans and a walk well and if i'll tell you what ifs and butts were fruits and nuts we'd all have a picnic but if pots and pans were what i wanted i would go to hexclad, H-E-X-C-L-A-D.com slash J-C-E and you get that fucking 12-piece set with the all-in-one cookware upgrade three versatile pans, two sauce pans

and a family-sized stockpot so it's big enough to actually cook one member of the family inside it and each of them has its own lid. No, it's not and that's not what that means and I'm not going to go any further, but you all know what I'm. mean.

Yes, well, and you know what I mean. Each pan has its own lid. You're going to get 10% off with our link, hexclad.com slash JCE. 10% off the finest and the last set of pots and pants that you're ever going to have to buy unless you get divorced and your wife takes them. Then the first thing you're going to replace is these goddamn

hexclad pads so you can make your burgers and just pour the grease out like it's slickered and come on a gold tooth. Yes. Yes. Yes. To some of that and to all the positive nature of that. And again, great pots and pans from Hexcled, they look good. They really look nice. They're really, really nice. It will make your white. Tell the truth, you are rubbing, you are rubbing up against them at night, aren't you?

It's fascinating. The honeycomb type texture and you can put them against your face and they're so soft and yet so hard. You know, sometimes we reveal a lot about ourselves when we ask other people questions, I guess, as I can say there. But once again, they look nice. Makes your better half happy. If you enjoy cooking, you're going to enjoy cooking with these fine, fine, hexclad products. Jim,

yes, they look nice. You can go out in public with them. They won't embarrass you, but inside the house, boy, they're hot. Hexclad.com. slash JCE. That's right. Let them know you heard about it here. Or well, they could have heard about it over here also.

It doesn't have to be over there. It could be over here. All righty then. You know what we got to do now, don't you, Brian? I've said I'm clean and sober from the AEW dynamite programming for two weeks now.

I haven't had to watch it. It's easier to digest when you just read the recap on the interwebs. So for the sake of the people who are disappointed that I haven't been talking about them, I thought we would at least just read a brief recap of what they did on Wednesday just to make sure that everybody,

they're not lost. Now, they can completely understand all of the AEW storylines just clear as day if we keep them up to date, right? I watched the show, so I know kind of what's going on, yeah. Oh, so you're completely clear it up to date on everything that's happening. Not clearing up to date, because even if I watched it the entire time and it wasn't on mute, I still wouldn't understand some of the things, but I see who shows up and then if I press mute in time, sometimes I hear some of their names and, yeah, I mean, it's not a priority

anymore. I have multiple monitors here in the office, but I have it on. It would be stupid for me not to have it on at this point. the only thing that you didn't say was you sneak out at night in the dark across the street and peep through the neighbor's window to watch their TV and see it. You figured it out. Tony is my mistress. So apparently this Will Osprey has got friends now.

Because they opened the show with him jumping Dick the Boozer in the garage and the boor horseman jumped Osprey. And then a car pulled up and Will Osprey's friends all jumped out and got a big fight with the boar horsemen. And Osprey's friends were, I wrote these names down, Brian, just to let me know if I get them right. Callum Newman, Francesco Akira, Hinar, and the young lady we've seen a time or two before, his significant other Alex Mountbatten, Windsor. We've actually seen her on this program, so she would be recognizable. Who the bloody hell?

Are these other three people, not only have we ever seen them before, but has their names ever been mentioned, not only on this program, but in public before? And I actually tried to search for a picture of Callum Newman and good God, if it's the guy that popped up, what the fuck in the world? He is the current IWGP world champion,

the youngest in history, 23 years old. Of course he is. He looks like a delinquent Louis Piccoli with a bad physique. Well, again, he's 23. There's always time to work on that, and this was the first time I got to see Callan Newsom Newman.

Have you ever heard of these fucking people? Have we been doing this podcast for 10 years? Have anybody ever written in and said, hey, have you seen what Francesco Akira's doing lately? No, never. I've seen their names in print, but I've never gone out of my way to see their stuff.

The one guy with the face tattoos was disturbing looking, but I don't know. See, I didn't, I saw the, I read the recap, so I didn't get to see that he had that, two's on his face. It was a heck of a way to introduce a bunch of people, a bunch of people who

have never been on this show or never mentioned on this show. All of a sudden, they are there. Carpools up, and here they are. Sort of looked like a carpool. They fought into the arena and then the baby faces ran the heels off and they made that for the main

event. That's what I understand. This was probably took a while from to do that, though, longer than it took me to say it, I would imagine, correct? I think so. Yes. And did you hear what, I saw this on Twitter, Meltzer said, well, I don't understand, you know, why people were,

that these nobodies from nowhere, it just popped up. It used to be a big deal, Dave said, when stars from other territories came into Georgia to do the TBS show. or what they're not terry funk the key is stars from other territories people that the fucking fans had seen before know and miss or had read about the magazines and always wanted to see or in some way recognized main event talent not callum newman francesco akira and hinar I still don't know what the other two look like. I was so scared by the picture of Callum Newman that I just gave up. So that's the main event. I want to, again, we talked about this several days ago.

Kyle is hurt. And apparently it's bad enough just from a goddamn goofy double suplex spot in a match with two midgets. he's heard bad enough he's had to vacate the TNA or T&A the TNT title I read that it was a torn meniscus well a torn meniscus is no one was torn cartilage I mean that there's a wide that's a wide description I've guys have torn cartilage and work the day later and guys have torn

cartilage and had to have it scoped and you know it it's so but to point is just from that one little goofy thing, he's vacated the belt because it sounds like he's going to be out at least a month or more or elsewise, who would even notice? So they're going to decide a new champion in a casino gauntlet match at the pay-per-view. They announced this four days before the pay-per-view. One would think that many of the top contenders might already be booked on a pay-per-view. So they're basically announcing whoever's not booked

or wasn't booked previously is now going to fight for this fucking title. Am I... I see, I'm just reading what's reported on the internet, Brian. Am I misrepresenting this in some way? Was there some nuance I'm missing? No, there's none.

Kyle got hurt. Title has to be vacated. The winner of a match where someone will get hurt will win the title. Now, maybe you can lend some kind of having seen this, the next thing was a little bit confusing to read a description of. He had a match with Andrade and Mark Davis

and take a shit from the Don Fowles family against Darby Allen and Bandito and Jungle Jackoff. And the heels won, and then the heels continued to beat up the baby faces until the Buccaroos, Maddie and Nikki came out and saved the day with the super kicks, but after they beat up the heels, the heels came back and beat them up until two of the heels take a shit and Okada started fighting with each other.

And while the rest of the heels were pulling those two heels apart, more baby faces, the rascals came out and dove on everybody. What did I miss? I don't think you missed anything. Obviously, Okana and Takesha have their problems. Was this the part of the show where that happened? Where they started going at it with each other. Yes, that's why when they were, suddenly they just began fighting.

Don Tallis had just done a long promo in the back. Right before this, talking about how they had no problem, and then they immediately had a problem right here in this. And obviously that sets up the big tag match for the pay-per-view. Where they're going to team with each other, not fight each other. other. Team with each other against the bucks, I think, right? Yes, because they can't have Kyle against and, was it going to be Kyle and boring or Kyle and take a shit? I think, Ticester, I think. Okay, well, Kyle can't do it now because he's hurt. So, Chris Jericho is a baby face again now.

firmly, we can establish that. He was in Edmonton. They're still in Canada. He hadn't got out of Canada yet. And you know the old saying, you're now entering Edmonton set your clocks back 20 years. So

he's the baby face and he did the raw ride. He wants to come back and be the best Chris Jericho he could be and then Rickashé came out and pissed him off. And so now Jericho has put Ricochet on the list and they're wrestling at the pay-per-view. The long-awaited confrontation between Chris Jericho and Rickashay.

Did they just kind of make this up in one week so that Jericho'd have a match? Well, Jericho usually decides who he wants to work with, so obviously he knew who he wanted to work with, and Tony probably knew what Jericho wanted, and this is the way they set it up because they only had him come back last week because he wanted to in his hometown. he got a better reaction this week than he did in his hometown. I thought this was actually pretty good. In terms of Chris Jericho promo, he's playing baby face. So far, you know, a week in, did a good job playing baby face to this crowd.

The listing was interesting because Jericho's always been about evolving and sometimes to his detriment. but he always has to change and, you know, again, goes back to his ideas and everything. The list was something he did 10 years ago in WWE. It's just interesting that all of a sudden he would return to something that did work for him, got him over as a pretty big mid-card act in W. I don't mean that, you know, in a bad way, it's just that's where he was with him and Kevin Owens at that point in WWE. It got over bigger than it should have and he got to ride that wave for quite a while.

you know, I don't know. It's just interesting that they would go back to something that WWI, I don't even know if WW can claim it as intellectual property, but just the idea that it's something he did that used to work and it worked a lot better than everything he's done since. Well, and that's the thing is he's good now. He's got to go back to the greatest hits and anything that will get people, if he's going to be a baby face,

he's going to leave plenty of reminders of happier times when oh, wasn't that great that Chris Jericho did this, that, the other thing, and that was a few years ago. So, yeah, he's going to go back to that. And I agree that he should do that. The question, I, him and Rickache, besides the fact that Rickettsay is a little fellow that he can look big and throw around, and I guess because he's a weasily, he old Jericho's thinking, oh, I could get some heat by beating this guy. But at the same time, all of the fans of that ilk think that the wrestling has to be all the diving and the flipping and the roundoffs and the rolling about. And I hope Jericho's not going to try to do that shit with him because he'll shit the bed soon as he's come back.

So, you know, but no, Jericho needs to give us reminders of happier times. it is the golden years of his career as much as possible at this point. So I wasn't surprised about that at all. When he gets out of, if Winnipeg, which I've said before, is the Kansas City of Canada, then Edmonton is kind of like the Baton Rouge of Canada. Edmonton and Calgary, that may be the lab, maybe the Carolinas of Canada,

of the last bastion of old-time wrestling fans who still like, you know, the old days and remember them fondly, whereas Winnipeg is the Kansas City of Canada, because it's just a nothing happening fucking place. But when he comes back to this country and especially some of the bigger American markets that have had plenty of AEW and their persnickety people, then we'll find out how persnickety they're going to be about about jericho you know who else is persnickety brian what were you going to say there was more dynamite there was more dynamite there was more dynamite that's why i'm persnickity tamaso champa beat mascara derito to get to be the first person to go into the casino gauntlet match for the t-and-t title that kyle vacated when his partner fell on on collision.

So hopefully Champa will win the thing and we'll just act like Bobby Ewing in the shower or whatever and all this other shit didn't happen. Start over with Champa. Invest in somebody some time

and energy that's worth something instead of these fucking goofy children. Okay, did you see Edge and Cage and their promo about F.T. I did. Did Cage really say that he fucked both of FTR's mothers? Yeah, I mean, this is the problem with Christian Cage's whole character and has been for a long time. All of a sudden it became to get pops laughter and pops from the audience.

He said that he went to FTR's mother's house and had sex with them. So he makes fun of people's dead fathers and then fucks them. their mothers. Who have to be in their 70s, I presume, right? It says a little more about him than he realized. Well, now, wait, hold on now. Wait, I mean, there's 70s. Hold on now.

Oh, maybe not. Maybe not, I guess. Jackson K. Well, maybe, well, mid-60s. You know, just on an average. Well, where'd Mama Wayne go? Where did Mama Wayne with the large upper frontal protuberances, the massive mammaries, the incredible flotation devices.

Where did Mama Wayne and her progeny, that Snoop-nosed, fucking slow-eyed goddamn Nick Wayne go? I could be wrong, but I think Ring of Honor. That's where all the major mammaries go to die. But again, we're talking here about this feud with FTR versus Coping Cage, the feud that had Beth Phoenix get beat up, her husband left. Christian Cage would just turn baby face because he's helping his longtime friend even though he stole a douchebag heel. He left too. They were all gone. FTR did a whole number of other

things. The whole time never really established the heat on them. Certainly never established it on Stokely. No one reacts to him getting up. No, a bunch of other people just beat him up since Cage and Edge left. And then they came back and immediately beat him up their first night in. And now these guys are so mad that Christian Cage is doing comedy, that it's impossible for a legitimate adult heel to get mad about this guy saying this stupid shit. But no, you see, now you've

just mischaracterized the whole thing because they clearly explained that when Edge left, Cage left in support of Edge because Edge had to go home and be with Beth until she was out of the woods. Remember they said that? She just wasn't out of the woods for six

fucking months. Apparently she's with Mercedes Monet. They live in Asheville. They'll never be out of the woods. Yeah, they're surrounded by woods. They just, she wandered in. Fuck, we can't find her.

Helicopters, goddamn National Guard. It's been months. The point is, if she was on the goddamn verge of medical calamity for six fucking months, and then, as you said, they come back, blah, blah, blah. But in this case, case, after Cage exclaimed that he fucked Dash and Cash's,

dash and cash, dash and dash, that'll be Dash and Dine. After Cage fucked Dash and Dines' mothers, then FTR and Rocky and Trent, just to the interchangeable heel thugs that are like a fucking Batman villains with their gimmick names written across their t-shirts. They're just, here's, here's thug and t-shirts. pal. They came out and beat both of them up and they pilmanized

Cage's arm in the chair and then Stokely stole his watch. Well, there was a thing last week where Copen Cage were mad and they were on the lookout for FTR and they went to their locker room because they had their own locker room apparently. And instead of FTR, Trent and Rocky were in there hanging out. So then they got beat up by Copen Cage. So this week was revenge for that. Well, he can't be hanging out.

And you can't roller skate in a buffalo herd either. I've heard that before. And then they had the chaos in Canada. See, this goes much better when I don't watch this show. I could just keep people apprised on what happened. Chaos in Canada, Dick the Boozer and the boor horsemen against Will Osprey and the unknowns who knocked question mark and the Mysterians off the charge.

in 1966. And they apparently had, and Brian, you could testify to this, a full-on garbage wrestling match that started in the crowd with no DQ and no tags and ladders and stairs and tables. And the baby faces won. So at least we don't have to carry this feud or angle on anymore because the baby faces got their resolution. Your thoughts.

Now, this was on one of the monitors, but it was also on mute, and Hulu was added L.A. Law, so I've been kind of marathoning L.A. Law for the first time in years. I love that show. It's really a great show. So I was watching more L.A. Law than that, but it went on for a long time. It went on for a really long time. And I don't know how anyone can care about the Death Riders. You know, I understand that there's a fan base that likes Moxley.

There's a delusional fan base that actually think he's really good in the ring. You could write down Randy Savage-style, exactly what John Moxley's match will be and it will be exactly that to the minute, to the second, here is where he'll start trading forearms in the middle of the ring, 20 minutes into the match for no reason.

It's always there. So yeah, that's... But now, wait, wait, the new talent here, you didn't pay close attention to Callum fucking... What's his name? God damn, I've lost... I would like to...

I've heard good things about him. I've heard good things about him. He looks like you cross- Gabe Kidd and Josh Alexander again and then left him floating in the river for three days, the picture that I saw. Oh, I don't know. The guy I saw had hair. You're describing a bald man.

Hold on. Type it. I tried to, I got a picture of him. I went to YouTube and all I got was his entrance theme and something from Japan where he was talking to somebody. He is with a beard and a mustache and lots of hair. Who did you see? Thought he was bald. He just looked bald.

I'm looking at these images. There's no bald images anywhere. Wait a minute. Hold on here. I've got a... Who did you see now? Now I need to know that. Let me get to my keyboard here.

Callum Newman. IWGP World Champion. Alam Newman. Not Alan Newman. No, Calum Newman. Well, hold on. Calum Newman. See, I've got you.

F. Roland. Is there a picture of him? Wikipedia don't have Callum Newman. Oh, he does have hair. Yeah, he still looks like he's fucking just there. Well, look, he looks very young. He looks very, very young. And I heard good things. So I wanted to see him wrestle. And this is not a match to judge him on, so I didn't pay too close of attention. Right? The first time you hear, The first time you see someone you've heard about, you want to see them. You don't want to see them have a 20-minute brawl around the building. With the moxley box.

He looks like his picture ought to be on the side of a milk carton. Well, they don't do that anymore, I don't believe. Well, that's because people don't drink enough milk. People drank more milk than we wouldn't have these problems. Well, they don't really have to go to cartons anymore, usually. There wouldn't be children missing all over the place with more milk drinkers. Anyway, I ain't drinking none of Callum's milk, but oh, there's one more thing. For some reason, they let Kenny talk again, and then MJF came out and talked to him,

and then apparently Kenny knocked MJF out. Are you excited about that big main event match coming up, Brian? I was more excited before they started doing their promos. And, yeah, Kenny talks me out of wanting to see him wrestle, not into it. the Canadian fucking snagglepuss it just doesn't work for me at all and MJF just MJF in a vacuum is great

and he always brings himself down to everyone else's level or it's just what he likes and the feuds it's been a while since the last MJF feud that you're like man this whole feud from beginning to end is kind of right there but it is what it is and I'm sure it'll be a great match I'm sure it'll be Kenny's best match.

Did you, you said that was it. Did you hear about the Tecla interview? Oh, I somehow skipped over, I think it was one of the backstage bullshit that even when I was reading the recap, I just skipped over that falderall because that happens so often, but I understand there potentially may have been a problem.

Who knows? Because let me say this, and I'll play you the audio, it's only a minute. It was just in the middle of nowhere Lexi and Air with Tecla. It's not a bad promo and I wouldn't have paid any attention to it but once the words started going around

and I'm not saying this is true because I don't know what the original source is. I heard people say it was Dave Meltzer. Nothing in the Observer that I saw about this. But people were saying Tecla was drunk and that AEW is mad that she showed up drunk which would make you say well why would they put the promo on TV

and then other people were saying well they didn't know she was drunk until the end but it's a minute it's a it's a one minute promo well and even if they if they did it live if they did it on tape they'd have plenty of time to judge it either way but if they did it live somebody had to interact with her in the moments before she would have been doing that and in which case they might have smelled something was off so i don't let's listen to it and see what it might be good I'll say this. My opinion, before we start playing, you'll form your own hearing it.

I think it ends pretty good, and I think her intensity is pretty good. Whatever story she was trying to tell with Lexi Nair, I'm not sure if that was thought out well, but let's play this audio right here. From AEW Dynamite on April 8th, Tecla is sick of Jamie Hater before Dynasty. Let's go to this. Tecla, this Sunday at Dynasty, you'll be defending your AW women's world championship against former world champion Jamie.

If I have to hear how Jamie Hater used to be champion one more time, I swear to God, Lexi. I'll take you out for a nice seafood dinner, the finest whining and dining, and then I'll bring you to the strip club. I'll drag you up on the stage and I'll break every single one of your fingers. Jamie! The kingdom has changed since you ruled it. The only reason you touch this is because I wasn't here. But now that I'm here, you're never going to touch this again. When I arrived in AW, the first woman I took out was you.

Because I knew you'd be the easiest. But you kept on coming back. Not because you're the toughest, but because you are the dumbest bitch alive. So now I'm done playing games. I am done having a good time. Because now, at Dynasty, you're going to be the dumbest bitch dead. Well, there it is. What do you think of the promo?

I think she needs to take a couple of shots of Jack Daniels every week before TV. Not bad. And not only because she's from where she's from Germany, right? Or somewhere in Austria. English is her second language, I assume. She's got a slight accent, but you can understand everything she's saying, and she had intensity. And she fucking, that to me, like I said, if she's drunk there, lick her that girl up every week. I want to hear more of that.

And I like her accent. I think the accent goes well with like a crazy female promo like that. The part about taking Lexi to the strip club after a seafood dinner to break her fingers, I'm not exactly sure what that had to do with anything else. Well, and you know what? That's, think about this. That's something that's missing from the business, is the, whether the heels or the baby faces,

it would come out and say something just completely outrageous and crazy. And you would think, well, that's nuts, but from them, you didn't know what to think, right? Maybe that's the way they are. That was, it took an interesting turn, but this girl sounds creepy, so she's creepy. I don't, you know, it doesn't all have to make sense if it sounds like that it's not,

for any kind of gimmick in wrestling, you can't sound like you're acting silly or acting tough or acting funny or whatever. You have to sound like you are silly or you are tough or you are funny or you are weird. as long as it doesn't come off like you're just making shit up and trying to be somebody from the planet Zambodia, anything can work. I like that.

I think that one minute, 16 second promo was to highlight a dynamite this past week. There you go. Congratulations, Pekla. You're the girl that wins the prize for the only one minute of dynamite that was worth a shit. And again, this is the problem with rumors. going around. The first comment here, Who's here after finding out she was drunk

while doing this? And that everyone's saying that? That drunk breath must have been hot considering the interviewer's face. Teckla drunk is a better promo than 95% of the wrestlers today. So everyone seems to like it, but I don't know if she was, they wouldn't

have put it on the air if she shut up drunk and they were mad at her over it, would they? Again, you wouldn't have, if it was pre-taped you wouldn't have put it on the air if you thought she was drunk and if it was live people would have been interacting with her beforehand you know and and would i would think think that something was up so i don't know who knows who knows with all of these people i don't want to be for anybody or again anybody because you never know with any of these people no you don't

and that was a e w dynamite it certainly was And the pay-per-view is coming up as we sit here imminently within just 36 hours or whatever. And we're watching it? You've. It's your program. MJF and Kenny Omega, that's a big match. Oh, like that's going to tickle my taint. Kenny may.

Kenny may do that for you. Just ask. Well, I think I'd rather have another tickler. Maybe a French tickler. Maybe old Jacques, Shane McMahon's friend. Nevertheless, it's your show of the drive-thru that we would normally talk about this on, so I will acquiesce to you in watching the major matches to further the way that the wrestling business is progressing. But don't expect me to go into detail on...

Well, no, I think because you have... The majority of the 14 matches, I'm sure we're going to see. I think because you have not been watching dynamite, you should watch some of the stuff you would normally skip just so you can critique it in a different way. I don't forget. I refer back to my mental health. Jim, we got letters all the time.

People who say that your dynamite reviews help them, make them happy. Help them get on the bus or get on the bike, jump in the car or perhaps head over to the train. Jump in front of the bus. jump in front of the car. No, no. Run the bike off a cliff. We stop it now. Come on. We'll meet somewhere in the middle of that.

In betwixt, shit and Shianola. All right. Don't forget there's a pre-show. Don't forget there's a pre-show. Well, that may be some of the shit, if not a little of the Shinola. So we'll see what happens. But we'll, I'll do some of that for you, my friend. But now, I guess we should do other things. but you know Brian i'll tell you what the thing is if whether people are drinking or whether they're

sober or whether they're old or young or tall or short or whatever kind of people there comes a time you're going to have to get away from wrestling you're going to have whether whether you're a big fan of it or whether you're in the business of it whatever you're going to have to get away from this shit because it's going to drive everybody crazy and once everybody racks up, they're going to need to find a new business, a new endeavor, a new line of work, a new thing to occupy their time and to throw their resources into, and that's where Shopify comes in. You see what I did there? I segued right into a brand new business, avoiding that delinquent on the bicycle. Folks, Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses

around the world, 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States and growing. As a matter of fact, this is old copy. I understand they're up to 12.7% right now because they are the partner that you need, a built-in business partner, not a tag team partner that's going to stab you in the back and turn on you on pay-per-view, but a business partner that's going to be there till the end. He's going to have his arm around you. He's going to take you under his learning. tree because Mr. Shopify, you know, Mr. Shopify is just like that, that fancy Dan fellow on

the Monopoly game with the top hat and a spectacle. He's got money falling out of his pockets. And you want to slide up next to somebody that's got money falling out of their pockets. And that's Mr. Shopify. He's going to tell you all the things that you need to know about how to sell your product or make your dream become a reality. Mr. Shopify is your commerce expert, managing inventory, international shipping, email and social media campaigns, a marketing team behind you. And Mr. Shopify will also roll up his sleeves and help you create that dream website of yours and as award-winning 24-7 customer support.

You know, that is, Brian, Mrs. Shopify. She sits there and answers the phone every time somebody has a problem while Mr. Shopify is out, fixing everybody's lives and making their dreams come true. Have you seen Mrs. Shopify? I have not seen any of this. And also, I think, I think it's important to note that

the Shopify family of characters are not official spokespeople or official mascots of Shopify. Well, no, they've signed it over to the board of directors now, and they've, you know, they've got, I think, I think the Rock is on the Shopify board also. He's on all of them. but but mr and mrs shopify still they'll pitch in and they'll help you and you'll

your dreams folks will become a reality you'll have your own business your own empire your own bank account your own place to live your own dog or cat or osolot or wallaby and a happy life and and you'll be able to sit in the window and fire a slingshot at that kid on that bicycle Go right now to your computer, your phone, your laptop, wherever it is you get on the internet, looking through your neighbor's window and punching buttons with his code when he's not around. And go to Shopify.com slash JCE, you're going to get a $1 a month trial period, where for the meager, poultry sum of $1, for a month's period of time, Shopify is going to show you what they can do for you. and Brian, has there ever been a dollar better spent in the business world?

That's a hard to answer question, especially with the changing value of the dollar over the last 150 years, specifically in the business world, but... Well, $24 for Manhattan probably was, if you divided that by 24 and then pro-rated for the interest. Yeah, okay, but a dollar a month, folks. It's a great deal, and of course, we trust Shopify, and you can too. Shopify.com slash JCE. Yeah, so's your old man. All right, anyway, I guess now we should

take a brief break so that we can come back and inform the people on what in the world happened on SmackDown. All right, it was a bumpy ride, but we have gone through Earth's atmosphere and we've returned. Well, I guess it's time travel. Well, it's not planetary travel, but we are here in the future. I don't know where you were taking a trip to there with that. Hey, that sounded good.

That sounded like the batteries were running low in the boombox of a fucking Chinese massage parlor soundtrack. That's kind of my sound. I don't know who you are to judge it, but we are here in the future for the benefit of the future. I guess I rubbed you the wrong way with that, huh? Just like in the massage parlor. That's right. All right.

So anyway, yes, we're in the future. future now, but we're talking about what's just happened in the past. On Smackdown, I swear to God, I think that the most vindicated human being now

is young Brian Jesse James Armstrong, otherwise known as the Road Double Dog Dede giddy, gitty, whatever the fuck he used to say. As soon as everybody was like, oh, we hate Road Dog,

we hate Road Dogg, he's the shit. As soon as he fucking quits, says, I'm going home to spend time with the kids. This show's gone in the fucking toilet. Have you, have you noticed that? Is there any correlation? Did he know what was coming?

Well, again, like we said when he left, he never wrote his show, like no one does when they work there. They wrote the show that their boss wanted, and he apparently left on his own accord. He heard something,

or knew something about the direction things were going. And he just said, you know what? I don't need this money. I'm going to go home. And the show has become bizarre in a lot of different ways. Well, they were in San Diego, and that's bizarre enough on its own. The people did not seem deliriously happy to be there

like they were just a scant few months ago, right? Is it just that town, or is it, it's early in the day there? They weren't warmed up yet. San Diego's a good town. That audience seemed like they were in North Korea. They just sat there. They sat there like they had to be there. They didn't leave, but they also didn't move, breathe, or react at times.

There was some element of they booed McAfee all right, but it wasn't like they were enjoying booing him. They were like, no, we know. No, no, no. Like the fucking guy on the plane with Stan Lane's balls in his face. No, no. I guess should I tell the story now or just leave it there?

I've told the story before. I don't want to get sidetracked. We'll tell it another time. Oh, yeah. So anyway, they recapped last week with McAfee and Orton and Cody and that whole thing. They reminded us of it. And then right out in the back of the building,

all this tells Cody don't put your hands on McAfee, that order comes from above me so again they're they're acknowledging this and trying to work it in as they say and should we

should we mention that I don't know that we did on the last show we talked about it that when Cody had come back out and cut that fired up promo that wasn't originally on the on the schedule last on the format last week it was an unscheduled promo they're saying now and he got a chance to go out and vent a bit was it a call on the fly did he go back there and say hey i just spent goddamn 10 minutes laying on my fucking back in the middle of the

ring with you guys beating on me while you talked me to fucking death It can, you know, did he demanded or did somebody else say, oh, we got to save this somehow? I would almost think it's more of a triple H thing. They shoehorn McAfee into my creative. And then he went out there, got on the mic, and said everything now sucks. It should go back to the way it was 30 years ago. And the reason we can't sell tickets is all of this. That's what he said.

So I think they said, what the fuck? Like, you didn't just turn heel. he decided to turn heel on, you know, gorilla. He turned the heel of them. Well, and now there's controversy over who it was that told him he could say that because there was allegedly a writer attributed to the segment, although that thing was ghost written by everybody. But they didn't, apparently somebody told McAfee he could say that.

that shit, but nobody in creative knew he was going to say that shit. And so far we have not officially heard who told him to say that shit. And here's the thing. I love, God damn it. This is what I've been saying all along that the fans want is people going into business for themselves and saying shit that they're not supposed to say and turmoil like that. but they've taken it and done the absolute crumbiest direction of it with the absolute worst deliverer of it

that you could possibly imagine. So is this be careful what we wish for or it's just they don't even know how to fucking tell the truth right? That was profound, wasn't it? It was very profound. I think we're going to find out about a lot of this on WWE Unreal at some point in the future. sure, but not that it's the same thing, but remember, Travis Scott slapped the shit out of Cody Rhodes.

Because the Rock told him, just go out there and if you're going to do it, make sure you really do it. He didn't tell anyone else he said that. That was the Rock independently giving him advice, so. Well, but this, I don't know if they'll make it to unreal or not at this rate. But anyway, so Aldous is saying, hey, the order comes from above at the top of the program here that nobody nobody knows who above is except we know who above is but they won't say who above

is and they're trying to authority figures again that's where we're at again see I don't even know if it's that I don't even know if it's that I'm wondering if R.E

and Mark and Nick and these guys and Dwayne and Dwayne, but if he was going to show up, I think he's staying far away from this. I don't think he, I think he realizes he don't need this.

I don't think he wants wrestling fans seeing him right now smaller than he was a year ago. Well, I don't think he wants to be seen in the middle of this right now. But point being, if these executives have been swept up in, oh, okay, well, we'll make it all part of the story and it'll be intrigue.

and they're getting their Hollywood mixed up with their wrestling. And I'm not saying they're going to be on camera or anything like that, but it's they may think that the fans want all of this bullshit intrigue with all of these people who have more money than they'll ever see on television in their lives in getting it and the celebrities. And again, we're starting to use celebrities in quotation marks because God damn. Now they're just part-time fucking wrestlers.

Yeah, jelly rolls there every week. He was here. As soon as Aldus tells Cody, you can't put your hands on Pat McAfee. That comes from above. Then jelly roll comes in and he's even more pissed and fucking Cody is. I'm going to do something about this, God damn it.

It's just, Cody, just follow me. We're going to, God, damn. No, Alde said, no, you got to stay out of it too. And then jelly roll is the one. Since he's the wise old sage of fucking Tennessee,

he's given Cody a pep talk, giving him the advice. I don't know. What the God damn it. I hate that he was a musician and not a wrestler first because he does a good promo. I got to give him that. He's really committed

to it, but then you're like, why is the musician showing up every week on Friday. It's a Friday. He doesn't have a gig. Keep showing up on Fridays. And then he keeps giving all the wrestlers these fucking pep talks. Like he's a youth pastor. And, well, it's not even, it's not even joke about things like that because.

I'm not saying, you know, like in a dirty way, right? It's just, it's like, oh, I, you know, we never know about these things. Who knows what we're going to be finding out? Because I'm, and here's the thing. Now, you're saying you're a dirty way. Okay. You see, yes. You say, you said fucking jelly roll like you wish he'd been a wrestler because he had,

he cut such a good promo. I'm thinking, look what he used to look like. And I'm going to pop you and three other people in the world. He's from Tennessee. Look at him now. What he used to look like and tell me that he couldn't be the illegitimate son of Ronnie P. Goss. I don't know.

that doesn't disprove anything I said. It may be a, I mean, it may have been impossible on a, on a sexual, I don't know what woman. Ronnie spent a lot of time in, Ronnie spent a lot of time in Tennessee.

I'm just saying that I think Jelly Roll's last real name, well, I don't know if that was Ronnie P. Gossett's real name. Folks, just Google a picture of Ronnie P. Gossett in the USWA in like, what, 1989? Oh, no. I would say, don't do that.

that go to YouTube and search for Ronnie P. Gossett in the USWA 89, 90, 91. There you go. 1990 with all the monsters. It's ridiculous. There you go. Jelly Rolls father. Feuding with Bert Prentiss. What a feud that was.

Oh, good Lord. And made Bert look sveled. All right. So back to this fucking fiasco. That's the way they've set this show up. Is that Cody's there and McAfee's going to be there. and jelly rolls there, but they're not allowed to touch. They're getting into AEW territory.

Also, right, with as well, nobody's allowed to interfere specific times. Well, if you can stop at the end, you can stop at any time. Now they've just said, well, if the fucking boss of the company just said, nobody's allowed to fight, they could never fucking fight. So then we're going to skip over a couple of things and just hit the interesting parts of this program. I don't even know about interesting being a proper word, but you can't see Ria Ripley now without see an E.O. Sky.

Ria does the in-ring interview, and it's about E.O. You attacked my EO. EO. And then EO came out with constipation face, and they set up EO and Jade in the main event, but Christ, I thought when they broke up the team and put Ria back in the title picture, we didn't have to see this,

this little conjoined twin hanging off of her fucking hip. Nope, it's not going away. And then Bailey wrestled Alexa. And then there was a lot of stuff backstage. And then we get to Royce Keys. Brian, who could have thought the guy's got a great back story he grew up in poverty but he had the family that took care of him but he's been shot at or shot or his brother was shot or the story that he tried to tell

once four years ago on AW and then they fucking switched him heel I don't whatever the fuck here it is there was the video he's from down the road in east Palo Alto and they had the family pictures and the story and basically they have told his true backstory that was true when he was powerhouse Hobbs but in two minutes they conveyed more of it here than they did in five years in AEW or am I just imagining this?

No, there was some production behind this. There was some time obviously they put in putting this together I thought it was really well done and we have not seen him at all. Royal Rumble and then they promoted him being on Stephanie's podcast because that's obviously a priority. And now this, I think the video was really strong doing it in his hometown

or as close to it as you could be. Great idea. I don't know if I would have had to match go as long and be as competitive because I don't think that served anyone, but other than that, this was a promising debut. Well, and the match, and we don't want anybody to think it was 20 minutes long

or whatever is him and Berto, whose partners with the other fucking guy. I forget who, aren't they, they have, yes. And they're, yeah, he was just there, but at the same time, Royce did the power stuff, then the heel distracted him, the other heel posted him. They got a little heat.

He made his comeback. He nailed the other heel. He hit the spine buster, boom, one, two, three. It was okay. There was nothing wrong with it. And I don't even know, honestly, if it was the fact, as you said, that it was long, it wasn't too competitive. It just seemed, it seemed longer than it was,

and it seemed more competitive than it was, because I think he's got to loosen up. Hobbs. I'll get used to keys later on. He needs to show more aggression. It is body language and in his emotion. And remember when Jacob Fatu first came in, he was getting ready to be a beast unchained.

Right now they've cleaned him up and buried him more on that later. but since if Hobbs had been more and had more of that old fucking you know attitude era type of fire to him then even if you get posted and you're down you've still got to try to be fighting your way back up and when you're on the offense

there needs to be more oomph and more urgency in your body language I think that's what he was missing here that made it seem more competitive or a little bit longer than it actually was. Does that make sense? It does. And again, they also brought him in as a baby face

and video aside, in the past from what we've seen of him, he is stronger as a heel, so maybe this is also an adjustment. Well, I would think he's been hopefully trying to adjust in the PC somewhere. But I'm not talking about being an animalistic heel type.

I'm just talking about being a badass. They want to see more, or at least if he's going to start out, you know, fucking big and strong but kind of calm, then they need to have a point where he snaps. There needs to be a big transition because something needs to happen. What gets under his skin? When somebody when he's, somebody's gouged his eyes, the third

time, well, goddamn, now you've gone too far, whatever, and then he snaps. Because he needs to just, when he's making that comeback and he's hitting all that shit, he needs to be more, more oomph. Anyhow, speaking of more oomph, Pat McAfee pulled up in the back. Brian do you have a cold drink

do you have a pillow for your chair this is going to be a while are you all comfortable I have a cold drink and there's no pillow for my chair but well I'm just safe here you know I want everybody to settle in because we're going to be here for a while

because McAfee got more television time than Nixon did during the fucking Watergate hearings so McAfee pulls up and Aldous tells him because he asked, yes, I've spread the word, nobody can touch you. And then Jelly Roll rolls up and jelly's hot and asking McAfee, did you tell Randy to R.K.O. Me?

You shouldn't even be here. You're not a part of our business. Or is it? Them McAfee said, was McAfee said that? I can't remember. I just jot it down. Not a part of our business question mark. But jelly roll, Jack's Pat McAfee up against the wall, and Aldous is separating them

from this argument they're having. And I'm thinking, this is just not good. It's non-wrestlers doing wrestling angles. Yes. And it looks like it. It looks like the wrestling school, local cable access TVs, you see, or even OVW in current day.

Guys, non-w wrestling people that have watched wrestling doing wrestling angles. But it was 9 o'clock, so the McAfee's the ratings juggernaut, Brian. So that's why they sent him And did you hear that apparently this was even changed. Originally, this was the information that's floating around the internet. This was originally scheduled for later on in the show,

but they shuffled the fucking format to get this on earlier and put E.O. Sky and Jane Cargill in the main event. So they really count on this 9 o'clock. I wish we got quarter hours. still. But now McAfee goes to the ring and we talked about the crowd, not particularly being a demonstrative crowd in relation to some that have, you know,

some they've had here recently. But the people were booing him, but what I said earlier, I think they weren't having fun booing him, were they? Did it sound to you? It was like, no, no, please, no.

It was a we don't want this. boo as opposed to a boo. It was more boo. Like, they didn't want this. And it got worse and worse, the longer it went. A sort of a grown booing. Or it's next level great because I never thought to have the heels put down everyone and then offer a discount. The fuck. Yeah, well, like, you're all a bunch of idiots. But if you need a great deal, I got a deal for you. I got, I got to get there first because the people who didn't see this. have to have the whole scope of the meaning of the context of this thing he comes to the ring the he calls san jose a shithole which was bleeped but he flipped the crowd the double fingers and then of course he knew it he knows enough you know to he knew that when he mentioned

see em punk's they'd be like you people are the kind of people that chan't for see em punk that they would chant see em punk see him punk but then he cuts a surprise on punk talking about the pipe bomb that he did talking about lowering the ticket prices and blah blah well hey what was he wearing he was wearing all of his merchandise he's got 280 things on sale on the website so where does all that money go does it go to the needy wrestledia families or does it go to punks i'm sorry Saudi Arabia fund so now he's literally burying the top fucking baby face. Well, first of all, you said it a lot more coherently than he did.

Because I was trying to follow him. No, it took him about three or four minutes to get that out. Yeah, and it's fair game to criticize punk for that Saudi Arabia thing. But if you were going to do it, you have to be able to do it. It just, it was a struggle for him, and then it didn't get the big reaction. Because a lot of people don't even know what he's talking about. Well, let's, and I'm sorry I was more succinct. I was trying to save the people's fucking feelings out there listening to us,

unlike him. But yeah, but the point is he was, when you're buried, not even punk had buried a bit about Saudi Arabia. It's the money he's making. Oh, yeah, he can come out and say lower the ease. Punk got a baby face response for saying they ought to lower the ticket prices.

And as I mentioned before, that was a great baby face line. But then the heel counters by reminding the people that they're buying propunks merchandise and he gets money from that. That's not the right light to paint the baby face in. And he came out and said, I'm on the side of the owners, you know, as opposed to the players.

This whole thing was, if you actually try to follow it and make sense of it, you know, in terms of what's right, it contradicts itself, like almost every other sentence. well the next thing and he talks about punk when he gets in front however he phrased it punk for the bosses

rolls over like a little bitch but I'm a man of action if punk says the ticket prices are too high if I swear to God he said this I'll try to jot this down in shorthand if it wasn't for Randy Orton why would anybody want to spend money on WrestleMania? And I wrote, he knows how to be a heel,

but not the right things to say. It's not even his fault. McAfee still knew at this, not the athletic part, but the fucking main event level vocal performance part. Remember what Jerry Jarrett told me the first time I was ever on TV when I was giving it a word to Jackie Fargo? I said, should I give him the introductions like the biggest box office attraction?

No. We don't want to remind the fans how much they paid to see Jackie Fargo. We want to remind them how much they loved him and how great a wrestler he was. The heel brags about how much the people paid to see. So he basically said that he called their spam trucks, which I guess is sponsoring something around here. And he got a 25% discount off the Saturday night WrestleMania show now until the end of Raw.

So the whole weekend for that, but then told people, Sunday, don't spend any money. Don't spend anybody to see Sunday just get 25% off Saturday to see Randy to see Randy Orton win the title. It just there's no, are they letting him just blurt these things out? Or is the, again, Ari Emanuel, who is his agent and chief, you know, president of his fan club? is he say, oh, yeah, say shit like that, because are Emanuel, they don't understand the exact intricacies of wrestling logic.

And I don't know who is not the one, who is not the one that doesn't understand this? But somebody doesn't understand this. So before Cody comes out, tell me what you think so far. I was waiting to see what this was going to be because they saw the reaction it got from everyone last week.

And I was blown. Everything he said, I kept getting more and more blown away. I'm like, oh my God, he's, when he buried the idea of paying for Sunday, which on its face is ridiculous

because if you're going to Vegas for Saturday, you know, the whole idea is you're going to do both shows. Oh, yeah. But again, he's burying the baby faces. He's burying the fans. And then he's like,

let me give you this great deal from our sponsor. It buries the sponsor. Didn't think of that? It buries the sponsor and then it also reeks a desperation. We're a week away from WrestleMania

25% off for a ticket. It'll be 50% off in the middle of the week, I bet. They should have got Don West to come out and do a home shopping fucking thing in a box and a corner of the whole show. And it's now, it's 82% off. It's until the end of Raw. Who's going to show up

on Raw and offer a different discount? I mean it. It has to be punk, right? It has to be a baby face, punk. Maybe Cody, but probably punk. But someone has to be a baby face to go, this discount lasts the rest of the week. We're not going to let Pat McAfee take this discount from you.

But here's the point that I was going to make more succinctly. He doesn't know what to say, though. You're right. He doesn't know what to say. And that's the point I was going to make. And when I went off on a tangent, I'll make it more succinctly. after he cussed the people and he's obnoxious and he had been droning on for a while at this point by the time that he got to

announcing the discount I was thinking to myself the average person has to be going fuck your discount take your fucking discount shove it up your ass I wouldn't see you for free motherfucker they'd boot him in the building when he announced this discount for this event in another city.

When the heel announced this deal for other people somewhere else, they boot him. So anyway, then that's when Cody's music played. Yes, folks, we're still going. And he got the big entrance and the people didn't go nuts.

Like, it's a part of a pattern. I'm not saying he's the only one, but it wasn't the whoa that we were getting just until recent times. But he did. did get a pop with when he said, Pat, I don't think you belong here. And boy, that kind of is what everybody's thinking.

And he did the only promo that he really could do in this. You are a play wrestler doing catch phrases from 30 years ago. We need to get you a replica belt and let you do your favorites, and then go back to whoever stuck you in here and say, thank you, Daddy. Pat McAfee, the modern-day George Goulas. Who would have thought that Ari Emanuel would be Nick? So then Cody says he quoted Paul Bosch,

because now they're trying to do the inside stuff too. And he said, they're not marks, they're customers. But Cody did, because you could tell, because he's probably trying to have a healthy outlawful. let for the pissed oftenness he must have now. He could have fired up promo and basically when you grow up and everything you have is because of the customers, they're my family pointed at the fans and defended the our business somewhat from this interloper and then said for the first time ever the

entire wrestling fandom agrees. They don't want to see you at WrestleMania, Pat. they want you to go home and to feel like go home Pat go home Pat and I thought that was a great way to end that wasn't the end did you think it was the end Brian

I thought it was the end I thought that was the go home one yeah it wasn't the end because then Pat said I am home I was born to be here and then he points out that Cody is the fakesest dude on earth, his fake tan and his teeth and his hair and a $10,000 suit and a cosplay

anything he can do to drive a wedge in between Cody and the family of fans that he has just roused up with his promo. McAfee is just completely shredding. And he's got a message for Cody at his inbred family. If Orton doesn't leave WrestleMania as champion, you'll never see me in this business again. And the fans start chanting, go home, Pat. Go home, Pat. And I'm thinking, wow, that was a pretty strong thing to end on. They didn't end.

It wasn't over yet. Was it over, Brian? That wasn't over. And also the stipulation all but promise that Pat McAfee on this show isn't over either. Well, exactly. And they have pretty much, one would think with that guaranteed, unless it's some bullshit that they've lied about, guaranteed that Orton's going to win the belt,

which we said about three weeks ago or two weeks ago before this nightmare occurred, that that's that if the people want to see that and the place's roof's going to blow off. I don't know whether now that they want to fucking see that or not. But nevertheless, it's not over. More than one way. Because Cody told Pat that he was high. He said, I guess you're stoned. Take off your glasses.

I don't. And they need to get Gunther out there and put you to sleep. And I'm thinking, well, how the fuck is Gunther? Because I'm thinking, here comes Gunther to put him to sleep. I'm like, how are they going to make sense out of that? And the people pop. People are like, yeah, we want Guntar now. And the people pop, yeah, we want Guntar out.

Come out and put him to sleep. but then Cody turned to leave the ring and I'm like well wait what the fuck and I still don't know how I don't know why that was the line that he chose to turn and leave on but Pat as Cody is walking out is still on the microphone are you and he's getting bleeped some more I don't know what the fuck he's saying are you gonna suck triple H's ass? That didn't get bleeped. And Cody takes his coat off, and he's coming back to the ring now. And right as he gets back to the ring, and he's going to do something about this tirade that McAfee is given. Orton's on the screen. I'm like, oh, Christ on a cracker.

It goes on. Orton is saying, hey, look down here. and the camera pans down and there's jelly roll. Rithing in pain on the ground looking like a deflated Macy's parade balloon. Come get your boy. Oh, hey, I'll bring him to you. So he grabs jelly roll by the leg, he starts dragging him out.

I got admire jelly roll's commitment to his fucking art here. Because you don't have to get drug across the stage when you're singer. But thankfully, for Orton's benefit, he's lost that 250 pounds. Either Orton would have sprained his back or thrown his shoulder out again or Jelly Roll's leg would have

popped out, like one of those Powertown figures. So, anyway, Orton drags jelly out into the arena and Cody goes down to the aisle to help jelly. And of course, Orton takes off. Well, then McAfee distracts Cody

so that Orton can come back out and glom him from behind. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's still going on. Orton beats up Cody. Hey, get in the ring and Pat throw some cheap shots. And then Jelly. Oh, Jelly.

Jelly, how I love you. How I love you. My dear old jelly. Jelly gets up. And zombie. walks to the ring, his clothes are all ripped, he's a warrior, folks. And as McAfee, he gets up on the apron,

as McAfee comes to punch him, because you know, Jelly Roll obviously has been working out with the Undertaker. Jelly Roll just reaches out and snatches Pat. Now you've got this goddamn, I don't care how much weight he's lost. Nobody can term this, again, fat fucking inflated,

skin bag as an athlete, and McAfee at least was a goddamn NFL star punter, as they say. Maybe it's the UK definition of a punter. Jellyroll reaches out and snatches McAfee by the neck like it's the undertaker snatching some druid. And McAfee just holds, oh, he's frozen in pain. and then fucking Orton has to nail jelly to save McAfee. And then Cody gets up and fights back. But this sounds more exciting when I'm saying it than it was on screen.

It wasn't like happening with urgency. And the people weren't screaming and jump it up and waving shit in the air. It was just going on. and then McAfee stopped Cody, and Orton DDTed Cody, and then McAfee saw the belt and handed the bell to Orton, and Orton waited for Cody to stand up, and then he hit Cody over the head with the belt.

And then they stood there. I believe it was 23 minutes from start to finish. I lost a little bit of track there, but it seemed so much longer. Yeah, counterproductive, bad, not getting the reactions I think that they hope for. For fans at home, this is a sad reality of what they're building towards,

the big tag match with Cody and Jelly versus Randy and Pat McAfee. And no, let's not let anybody think that you're kidding. You're not ribbon here. This is what allegedly they're planning for the May pay-per-view. Coincidentally enough, a lot of the fans are planning to do other things for the May pay-per-view.

I mean, this whole thing is a real sad exposure of TKO and what they think of their wrestling property. I'm not going to lie, hearing about all this over the last week and hearing that Ari Emanuel from the top is getting involved because whether it's they care about WrestleMania ticket sales, this hasn't done anything to help ticket sales in case no one's noticed. Like nothing they've done in the last two weeks has caused a large amount of people to go, you know what?

Maybe we should go to Vegas. But obviously their priorities are different than the wrestling company. If Matt McAfee's being told to go out there and say whatever he wants, who's telling him that? And if Ari Emanuel is making these decisions, how much is he still talking to Vince? because now it's kind of been exposed in these text messages that came out at least a few years ago that was the biggest fear they had, Paul Vec and Nick Kahn. Well, more Paul Vec.

Vince is still talking to Mark Shapiro. Vince is still talking to Ari Emanuel. Their attitude is, what's wrong with him giving notes? What's wrong with him sitting in every now and then? You have to wonder how much of their thoughts on things come from, you have to wonder. No, not on this. No, no, no. Go shit on the creative.

Go shit on everything happening in the company? No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on there, cowboy. I'm thinking, you're saying that Vince is just purposely telling him stupid shit to do now? Then that, you know, that may be one thing. I'm saying that he may be one of the voices Ari Emanuel is listening to. That's above Paul. No, I'm saying that. there's no way that he wanted Pat McAfee and jelly roll.

I'm saying that Ari Emanuel, who represents fucking Pat McAfee, who is apparently thinks he's the next Sylvester Stallone action hero in Hollywood. Is that the description it's going around now? Is that what you've heard? That's what I've heard. I believe even Dave Meltzer Heardex.

He put it in the observer. It's ridiculous on its face. Ari Emanuel is one of the most successful, if not the most successful agents in the history of show business, but Pat McAfee is... He's not Rocky Balboa, he's the drunk uncle at the house party on that episode of Freaks and Geeks.

Whatever the case, the fact that all of the sudden, as they say, here comes McAfee and he's at everything and Emmanuel is his agent, and Jelly Roll, you don't think they... because for whatever reason, this deformed Creighton sings sells this amount of music, they want him under control,

where they can somehow plumb the depths of his worth to their corporate bottom line. And so they're getting him, and he's a wrestling fan, and he's living his dreams. They're getting them all in this goddamn thing. And they're going to figure out a way to make 20, billion dollars with a four-way all-male gang-bang video with jelly roll pat mcalfee Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton with a special guest appearance from fucking Nick Aldus

Nick Aldous leave him alone what did he do he's got to bring in all the fucking dildos so in terms of who arey Emanuel's listening to what about Juan Johnson I don't think it I don't think Ari Emanuel's listening to anybody I think he is the reason why? Because he likes Pat McAfee, and he has put Pat McAfee in this. Because now they've got the bug. They got the booking bug. They've got the Hollywood guys have finally gone Hollywood on wrestling. And they think they can do this too. And then when they heard that there was controversy, oh yeah, you talk about the higher-ups and yes, you know, this will be great. We'll get all kinds of talk.

on ESPN. I'll tell you something. Every single time Pat McAfee talks WWE or has a WWE guest or performs as a heel on his show on ESPN, I think he loses fans. I don't think it's the other way. He's not a heel.

He's not a good heel gimmick. He is a good. Ra Ra, ra cheerleader kind of... He's a cheerleader. He's a cheerleader. Ex-jok fan color commentator. Softball question. doesn't ask anything difficult.

You know, he's a soft landing spot for WWE if they want to put something out there. They know they can go to Pat McAfee and he'll play ball. But I mean just as a wrestling gimmick, it's good, it's okay if he's the energetic. I love the, the WWE and hey, yeat, yeat, all that.

He's personable in that way. As a heel gimmick, he's fucking rotten. Fucking rotten, says somebody he knows might say. You know what we need. need, Brian. What do we need? We need something that can give us a kind of a Macafee-free experience when we're watching these television programs.

I wonder if our friends at Surf Shark can do that. They can give the Canadian fans the commercial-free WWE experience on Canadian Netflix. They can give all the fans the commercial-free experience on the Canadian Netflix. If you do it right, can they give us a McAfee-free experience on the Surfshark service? I don't know if that's exactly how it works, but this is a good time of year to remind people about Surf Shark in their service because WrestleMania is coming up and, of course,

it's a pain in the neck in the States to go to the ESPN, go to ESPN, go to ESPN on the Disney app and pay $30. I thought it was the Disney on the ESPN. It's ESPN on a day. Well, now that's why they've got our truth in the little Lucy psychiatrist box from Peanuts, telling people how to sign up for this thing that we don't even remember what the name of it is.

You don't need to worry about that. Let's take our craziest character and have them explain to people how to order the pay-per-view. Great idea. But like you said, you don't need to worry about it for once. You can have all the benefits of a WWE fan in Canada. But without being in Canada. Because you got to go to surfshark.com, and then they'll put you anywhere your little heart desires.

You want to live on a South Seas Island with a tropical breeze blowing in your face and the sand between your toes and the topless lady giving you the Mai Tai. Well, and all you've got to do is go to surfshark.com slash JCE, and you're going to sign up, and they're going to send you to the South Seas, metaphorically speaking, and you're going to get four extra months of Surf Shark VPN for doing that. Because not only are you going to be able to get access to all these various streaming services that for some reason or another block you out, you know what I'm talking about, Brian, you know, you know what I'm talking about.

Just because of your geographical location, sometimes you get screwed, screwed, blued, and tattooed, dicted by the dangle dung of destiny. just because of where you live, I say no. I say, fie upon you, sir. Surf Shark will fix you up with a brand new abode somewhere that's not discriminated against. Like Cambodia or British Columbia. So go to Surf Shark.

Canada. Yes, various places. That's where British Columbia is. You didn't know that? Well, you started with Cambodia. That also made me want to stress that we're talking about. Well, Cambodia, they're saying. They don't discriminate against anybody over there.

They're a very free-living society. I don't know how they do streaming over there, but let's get back to the point here. It's called Cambodian streaming service. Once again, Netflix and Canada, Netflix in Canada, we know for sure. Yes. Well, we know for sure. But the thing is for people all over the world, you can figure this shit out as you go. Secure your privacy, too.

They're not going to let the people in your walls through those cables to harm you or your family while you're a story. or get inside your computer and look at all your naughty pictures. So surfshark.com slash JCE, where if you go and sign up with the code JCE, you will get four extra months over and above what you're signing up for just for using that code. They'll not only keep you personal and private, but they will allow you to basically bypass the WWE and the streaming services. draconian laws concerning where you live.

And of course, then you can access things in a much easier fashion. And draconian pricing. Don't forget about that. Get around that. Well, it goes completely without saying that it will be gratis, which means you pay nothing for these fine services that other people are suckered into paying for. Well, once again, Surf Shark, it's WrestleMania season.

You need a good option to see WrestleMania from the convenience of your home with a convenient price on a convenient service that you pick like Netflix in Canada, Jim. Let's let the listeners know this great deal from Surfshark. Surfshark.com slash JCE and use that code JCE at checkout. You're going to get four extra months on top of what you sign up for just because we love you. Surfshark. Well, you know who I wish they could put in a different place, a different location, at a different time and start over again is Jacob Fatu.

Are you kind of heartbroken over what has happened here with Jacob Fatu and the overall presentation? They found a way to make him not interesting. Not scary. Not anything. He's just he's another guy on the car, and that wasn't how he debuted, and that's certainly not how he should have been presented. And, you know, there's still time, I guess. they've shown them the cleaned up version.

Here's the thing. I know he was out with the dental, whatever, but they could have covered. Here's what they did, and then let's talk about what they could have been doing. Again, he's got a match with another one of the fucking Tongans. That, I think, is what doomed him was being stuck in neutral with solo in that group for so long.

So low, so long. But he beats the, whatever the Tongan was. But obviously the match coming up is him and Drew, unsanctioned. They're mad. They're dangerous. They're at each other's throats. And they've, they had a video with Drew in jail. Not like he was in jail mocking Jacob and talking about blah, blah, blah.

They've talked about Jacob's prison background. He's the nicest, cleanest, most ineffectual ex-con now I've ever seen. They did everything. Again, they did everything, but they did it in the wrong way and or with the wrong people. So after Jacob wins this match, McIntyre comes out and jumps him and just beats the piss out of Jacob Fatu. and he's supposed to handcuff him. Brian, have you ever seen a cop with the handcuffs with a chain six feet long in the middle?

I have no idea where you get handcuffs like that, no. You don't get them like that because there ain't none. You don't, you have to, they made phony fucking handcuffs for this spot they were apparently trying to do that didn't work anyway. But I've said before, there are handcuffs with, you can get three links of chain in the middle and those are usually the working ones. You can get handcuffs

that don't have any chain of the square connection and those are goddamn almost impossible to use in a working situation. And when they have a chain like, say two or three feet long in the middle of them, they're usually leg shackles where people can walk in them, they go around your ankles,

but that's why that chain is that long, right? But with these, they were regular size handcuffs, but with a chain six feet long in the middle. So to mock him, obviously,

for being an ex-con or prisoner or whatever, but he puts the goddamn handcuffs on both of Fattu's arms and tries to hang that long chain over the top of the ring post while Fatu's on the floor so he

and hang him there and have his way. And as soon as he puts any weight on it, one of the fucking handcuffs comes off one wrist. So then he gets on him and he beats him up some more. He puts the handcuff on again. And he's tried to do the same goddamn deal. And it came off again. And then he's still supposed to apparently get more heater do something

because he tries to get him down on the floor and now he's trying to like he's handcuffed his fucking hands behind him. Well, there's a six foot chain. But Fatu's trying to act like that his hands are handcuffed behind him. But he's not fully committing to acting like that because he kind of knows,

but he's still trying to keep his arms behind him while he's not fucking. And then Drew whips him with a belt. And all of the agents are trying to stop. and everything. It was long and it was horrible and Fahtu whether he was he might have just got dinged. He was bleeding a touch from the head, not like bleeding bad or anything, but it just immobilized and beaten up and other people having to come and help him.

I think it, it probably should have been, and again, this is something I go back to with Vince in the old days before he lost his mind. and before that, you know, everything just fell apart, a guy like that, he wouldn't have needed anybody to come help him for a long time after you saw his debut. Hey, tell me what you thought of this and then let me tell you what I thought maybe they should have not done or done or whatever. I mean, you described it pretty well. It was a train wreck of a segment. the agents can never stop or do anything. But they're all out there. The handcuff...

Who was the last... Was it handcuffs in Becky and Lyra? Lira, whatever her name is? Yes, yes. That was the last time the handcuff thing didn't work. This one was such a bad idea to begin with, because even if it worked, you're hanging him over the thing with the handcuffs?

It was poorly thought out. It broke down. They kept going back to it. I don't think any of the fans cared about this a few weeks ago. I think it's gotten worse. This is, again, like Hobbs close to Fatu's hometown. And I don't, again, I don't think the build to this match has done anything for either one of these guys, actually. Once that...

Drew's a non-entity right now. It doesn't feel like this feud matters. And that's... It was guys that, two of the guys that we were most interested in just this time last year or, you know, up until several months ago. And then suddenly poor Drew got eggyed out back in January or whatever it was. And Jacob is, he's the cleanest, nicest werewolf you'll ever see. It reminds me when they tried to get, I swear to God. Rikishi, when he was fat, fat,

in 1995 or whatever, when they cleaned him up and remember the gimmick, he's going to make a difference? Oh, yeah, I could never forget that. The appeal to the hip, young, urban kids and tell him to stay off drugs and, oh, Christ. But the point is, when they realized what they had with Jacob Fatu, he was the werewolf, he came in,

he was running crazy. I love you solo. When they broke him up with solo, he should have beat the fuck out of solo, boom, one, two, three, and got him away from it. And he was starting to get, obviously, the baby face momentum,

but work with that, but don't turn him baby face because the reason he was becoming popular getting over is because he was this wild fucking dangerous motherfucker that could do all this shit. So instead of then trying to normalize him, my God, he broke up with solo because the bad blood and the bloodline,

but now he's on the loose and you could have him work with anybody. Let him be a kind of a stone cold type of guy where he was turned by the people before they turned him in the ring. but he could at the same time he could work with another heel because he's just nuts and that's where they could have explored the prison background when they said well the bloodlines pull is how that he was able to get signed to a WWE contract because of his record

and now that we got him what do we do with him we can't get rid of him and have the general managers go my god this guy's of insurance liability whether he's going to hurt one of the fans or somebody in the but we don't know and he wouldn't have needed to wrestle every goddamn week sometimes just have him do insurance liability things where he's mad at somebody he's trying to get him and fucking there's an incident in the parking lot and just keep him an island unto himself at some level until and then with the with the uh dental problem he hadn't had to take several months off. Violate his probation

because you should have already been telling the story if he was in prison to begin with. That's why they didn't have him before. That's why the family didn't even want to bring him in because he's dangerous. He certainly got a mugshot somewhere. Show the fucking thing. Do a package.

Even if he never made the news, have some newscaster. California, man, was arrested today in conjunction with while it's over the mugshot and did he make the newspaper tell the story but that's when he was young and then you could start telling the story from people in the family he was around the wrong people whatever it was to make him a sympathetic ex-con who fell in at a young age with the wrong crowd and his poor neighborhood whatever the fuck but that's why he's fucking crazy and and then one of the family members not a wrestler just a young teenage boy that's his cousin or his nephew or whatever the fuck maybe one of

them that helps tell the story of how jacob fatu wound up on the wrong side of the law is sitting front row some night when the goddamn heel fucking said, fuck you. And that's how you get Jacob Fatu to turn baby face. The heel grabs the kid

over the fucking rail and he's going to kill him and here comes Jacob and blah, blah, blah. I sound like Paterson now, given the, but it's just the highlights, but that's the story.

And then you go and you fill it in. And at that point, then you've got all the people on his side because he was a young man that made mistakes. And like I said, you could do a parole violation for shit, paperwork error and get sympathy on him. You could give weekly reports he's still fucking locked up,

but he wants to get out bad. Maybe the goddamn heel is the one that turned him in. Instead, they've washed him and cleaned him up and give him spotless tights. and he's not a werewolf, he's a goddamn Newfoundland. I've never heard that comparison before. Well, see? Does what I'm saying make any sense to you?

What you're saying is world's better than what they've done, although I would replace the teenage kid with either an old lady or the Tonga kid. Get him a... Well, I didn't want to beat up an old lady. No, you get like some old worker who could just take a bump over the rail. One last payday. That has to be another May young son. somewhere. A Samoan May Young.

Hey, they did that with God damn, uh, who was, it was, it was Eric Wongeroff. George Wai, when in ICW in Lexington at the high school gym they used to run. They did a deal where the heels were wrestling George Wongeroff and Eric is George's little brother at a time he was only at 14 or 15. And as they're beating up the. baby faces, I can't remember who the heels were. Savage may have been involved, rolls out and grabs Eric Weingroff and rolls him in and starts kicking his shit out of him because Eric was just walking by the ring, right? And they're shooting this for television.

And they're going to explain what happened, you know, when they voiced it over later. But what the people saw was his fucking heel just rolled out and grabbed this kid from walking down the aisleway and threw him in the ring and started kicking his shit out of him. and it started a riot. They thought he's grabbed one of us and they fucking hit the rig and a blah, blah, blah. So, but, you know, now that's been overdone too, but you can always tell when it's set up now.

Nevertheless, poor Jacob, we knew him well, but now he's just that. And that had to be gimmick handcuffs too, because if you close legitimate handcuffs, one click, they ain't coming open. So I don't know where they got this fucking bad special effects. You know, that's what I didn't think about.

Brian, when I did my ring-worn and ring-use sale, I still have like two or three pair of handcuffs from Smoky Mountain Wrestling's Rage in a Cage fucking match. I should put those up for bid somewhere. Yeah, that's pretty cool. and handcuff keys are standard as we've said many times so folks always remember carry your handcuff keys that's a public service announcement there's some advice for you criminals out

there from Jim Cornett hey I still I for the past 30 something years I've carried a handcuff key on my key ring but if they arrest you they're going to take away your keys well I might have to get somebody else out of something Oh. That's just being a good friend, actually. See, there you see? All righty, speaking of good friends and better enemies, Sammy Zane, then at 10 o'clock on this Eastern on this episode of Smackdown,

came out to the ring and started cutting a promo and I was about talked out. And I got to be honest with you, I was going to zip through the whole thing. But Trick came out with little Yachty. and I just love them now. They are a, they're a pair to be reckoned with. And it's the way they're, they know what they're doing here, and they're doing a very good job of this because trick was a heel, but people were starting to like him.

And Sammy's a baby face, but they have been slowly telling the story of how Sammy's just kind of an insufferable little thing, and people are getting tired of him. They were booing him as soon as he started talking. Exactly, because now it's registering. And I think after last week, they've got the idea, yeah, Sammy. So Trick and Yadi come out and said, people are tired of hearing you talk, Sammy.

And they're like, yes, yeah. And Trick cut a great promo on Sammy and ended up getting cheered for saying, I'm going to beat you. And Sammy responded, he, He's not cutting a heel promo, but he's cutting just a, he's just an annoying little little fucking asshole that the fans are not going to like. He's not trying to be a heel, but he is being won, if that makes sense. And then Yadi cut a promo on Sammy.

It was pretty good. I like little Yaddy. They're great together. I think, again, I believe that they ought to fucking sign Yaddy to be. old tricks you know fucking whatever he is a hype man or spokesman or

rap man or whatever and then they just played Matt Cardona's music and okay they went to break and I don't care and they had a match but that was that was the promo segment the fans didn't care too much about that match either

but uh I understand there was a sighting of a human piece of broccoli in the second row chewing its cud while this match was going on. I understand that too. I saw what you retweeted. So I understand that's indeed the case. I have to say, they're booing Sammy, they're right toots the way it's been portrayed.

Other fans, independent of that, are kind of sick of them. But he did a great job here. Like this whole thing, up until the Matt Cardona part where his music plays and you know, again, it doesn't really motivate the fans but it's like, always ready. Okay, that's just great. As opposed to everyone else who's just sitting around, I guess. But the fans didn't give a shit.

That's kind of where I think everyone just stopped caring about the segment. But the next segment was another one of these, wow, you just, you can't believe your eyes segments. Dan Housen made his wrestling debut, Brian, on Smackdown, in the WWE, and he wrestled Kit Wilson. I got to say for once, Kit Wilson looked like a large giant athlete of a man. I'm watching this and I'm thinking of all the feedback we've received the last couple weeks. And I'm like, you know, maybe we are too hard on him. maybe we are too hard on this idea that there's magic and it's just all coincidences.

And then the fucking pyro went up the guy's ass and I said it anymore. Oh. I tell you what, I don't want to hear anybody make fun of me anymore for 30 years ago wrestling Brian Hildebrand in a teenage mutant Ninja Turtle costume at the Tally Ward center in Morristown on kids night. This was literally a county fair spot show match from the old days on national television. And Danhausen, of course, from Bill is from 1311 Mockingbird Lane.

He's next door to the Munsters. Nice touch. It was a good touch. but they did a couple of old-fashioned spot show spots. And at one point, Danhausen slid out of the rig and put his arm around Ms. who was looking at the people, and Ms. thought that it was Kit.

And so he's smiling and there. I mean, it was a spot show. And then a little heat, Kit took over, got some heat on him. And then finally, Kit is going to finish him off. And he's got Danhausen laid out in the middle of ring and he climbs to the top rope and as he stands up on the top rope Danhausen sits up and looks at him and he goes to the left you and he goes to the right

or any points at kit cursed and paro comes out of the top of the ring post up kit Wilson's ass. And Kit. And Kit Wilson, of course, reacts as anyone does when Pyro is blown up your anal orifice. And he fucking goes, whew! And he jumps up and he crotches himself on a top turnbuckle. He jumps up and he falls down to crotch first.

Woo! And then he falls in the ring. And then Ms. pops up and Danhausen spins around and gives Ms. an eye poke, blink, and down goes Ms. whoop, whoop, who, whoop, and then he kicked Kit Wilson in the head, which apparently is his finish. One, two, three.

Jesus Christ. finish. That was my big thing. There could be, well, I don't know that he need, we should say he needs a finish. I'm hoping he's not going to be winning that many wrestling matches. But, uh, but yes, the magical pyro up the poop shoot spelled the end for young Kit Wilson against mockingbird Lane's contribution to the wrestling industry. Dan Hewson, you are kidding. you guys are too hard on them.

The referee just happened to have a hand that couldn't count anymore. And then this. And then the fireworks up the ass. At least they didn't come out of his ass. But you know what? That might have been better. You know what?

If he could have pointed at Kit Wilson that fireworks would have come out of his ass and boosted him up in the air like a rocket? I would have gone for that. There goes Kit Will's chasing the Artemis 2 as he goes out of the arena. He can be his new gimmick, ass rocket. Where will he land? And his finish can be the ass blaster.

Well, now, I mean, the sad part is, in terms of what it means for professional wrestling, I think it's such a giant step back, but in terms of comedy, I can't wait to see what curse happens next week? What calamity could happen next? After you do the fireworks up the ass, what could follow that? I actually want to know, so they got me.

You know, I think we said something that apropos a couple of years ago when this whole thing started with TKO, that Vince was going to sell, and that the business was the main major promotion

in the world was going to be out of wrestling people hands for the first time ever. And what might happen? And could it get it? Vince was over the top with the entertainment. Could it get worse? With somebody who hadn't at least had some level of knowledge of and respect for any kind of wrestling tradition

or for the business in general, or at least the effort it takes to be one of the top guys because Vince always recognized the effort and the physical effort and the mental effort, the determination it took to be a top guy in wrestling. That's why he rewarded some people sometimes in commensurate with their ability, whatever the case. But now we've got...

You know, magic tricks and lepracons and lollipops and fucking pyro from the ass and jelly rolls. Hey, listen, if Orange Cassidy was a free agent, they would try to sign him. And if they signed him, we would get like, I don't know if you've seen this guy yet. He's really amazing. He sticks his hands in his pockets. They would make it the big thing there, and they would sell a bunch of merch off that. it's the state of the wrestling industry. There are no more barriers between goofy indie stuff

and what gets on TV. Because there's no more barriers between goofy indie people and access. It's just that now we're finding out some of the goofy indie people also have billions of dollars at their disposal, whether it be goofy indie wrestlers or goofy indie fans. This is now what the,

the business is in the hands of is goofy indiness. So maybe they should, who's the, where, what happened to, I thought I could vamp long enough that I'd remember his name, the goddamn magician that was all the, Chris Angel, was all the rage on television, mind freak, like what, 15 years ago, did a hell of a television show, had some arms on him, looked like he worked out.

You could see him doing a fucking wrestling angle. Where's he now? They could get him. He could make some of these sunbitches disappear. All right. A weird plug for Chris Angel. Well, I'm just thinking, you know, why don't they just open the flood gate?

They're in Vegas. That was his thing. He was in Vegas. He did magic on, in the various venues in Vegas. Why don't we do something for the tag team? Why don't we get Penn and Teller? Maybe they can, come out there and do something. Actually, I think

Chris Angel is more hip and young than Penn and Teller for this modern hipster crowd we got going on here. I don't know how hip and young Chris Angel is in 2026. Penn and Teller are timeless. Well,

who's the big magician now then? The big one's Penn and the tiny mute is a... No, I don't mean the big... I mean, who is the top music? Top musician is... I don't know. I don't know that camera. Who's the top magician in the world today? It used to be like, what we know is David Copperfield or his fucking David Blaine or

it's this guy or that guy. Who's the big head honcho today? Copperfield was in trouble already and then they found out he was in the Epstein file. So he's completely done. No. Oh, yeah, he was. David Copperfield? I saw him one time live.

That's right. That's right. I saw him one time live like 30 years ago. It was amazing. What'd he do? I'm sure he did all sorts of naughty stuff. And then he also, beyond any sexual shenanigans, which you can Google, he also had an apartment in New York that he trashed.

He, like, flooded some house, some apartment, some, like, apartment, some penthouse at the top of a building. He destroyed it, but, uh... Well, maybe he was doing a thing where he escapes out of the fucking box underwater, and just it overflowed. Well, either way, I would go a pen and teller over Chris Angel. Well, you know what I'd go with bringing this show to an end, ladies and gentlemen

There was a main event, whoa, what if at the main event? Eyo Sky and Jade Cargill, yeah, I was talked out, celebrated out, and fucking cursed out at that point. So what happened? Jade eventually beat Eio. The crowd didn't seem to give a shit about any of this. Rhea beat up Mia Yim or a... Meachin and B-Fab throughout the night in the back.

You would find them and attack them off camera. Then you would see them all beat up. And then apparently it was a pretty good ass kicking because they couldn't come out and help their friend an hour later. Yeah. I mean, Ria is tough. Well, there you go. And that was Smackdown.

Certainly was. Any closing thoughts? Any closing thoughts? Yes, I had a close and thought a minute ago and you stopped me from closing. my closing thought is WrestleMania is coming up in just a week not even now

is by the time the people hear this and thank goodness for Brock and Oba and punk and Roman because I think they have successfully neutered my interest in anything else on the show which night gets the rock

he ain't going to show up as a surprise because then he gets none of the credit for drawing the thing, but if he also gets none of the blame for if they don't like what it draws, and he can claim scheduling difficulties.

I don't think he wants any on him at this point. We'll see what happens. WWE in an interesting state of creative destruction, self-induced destruction, it seems like. They got rid of, they didn't get rid of, Brian Armstrong left. All of a sudden, female head writer of raw

who has no experience with professional wrestling in any way can't even speak about the state of Smackdown the show has fallen off a cliff but then again it also seems like the creative team is not fully running that show there are literally voices from above telling people

just show up at SmackDown and do whatever the fuck you want I hear voices from above they're telling me to give McAfee a shove their Ari's voice. I'll give them credit. I'll give them credit, though. I can't wait to talk to you about Raw on the drive-through and Smackdown next week and Mania, but not for the right reasons, just because it seems like each show is like another

rung of the train wreck at this point. Well, and if we're getting a tag match in May, unless they rethink that, but with Jelly and Pat and Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice, that whole, and then... we're going to have to see this weekly for some time to come. The fans do not like this much celebrity nonsense. It's going to be nonstop because it's going to be every day on the Pat McAfee show on ESPN. Well, we don't have to listen to that, though. We don't.

But I'm saying those fans are going to get sick of it too because it's going to be over. No, I'm saying, I don't care about those fans. I'm saying, well, I don't care about it. They can all drive all their fans off they want. for all I care, but the fans of Smackdown are not going to stick through six more weeks of jelly roll saving the day on a consistent basis, I don't think. Well, we will see what happens. That was Smackdown, and this is your show. I was about to say, now I have a final thought, since we've got to get plenty of rest

before WrestleMania week down, foe, week down. Before WrestleMania week down, we're going to. to lay down and get a good night's sleep. That's what we're going to do. We have the A.A.W. pay-per-view coming up. Oh, Christ. I forgot about it, but I'm only going to watch like half of that, if that. No, come on. You have to go over the top. Oh, 13 fucking match.

Oh, tune into the drive-through in a few days and see what I do. And that's the only thing I can tell you. And then we'll see what they do. Good Lord. Are they just trying to get in the week before and just make people not want to see any more wrestling to sabotage WrestleMania. Is that their, their MO this year? We'll fix it.

They'll go seven hours. It'll be like Vince used to in the building the night before an NWA show. They'll go till one in the morning and tire everybody out. WWE does not need anyone's help in sabotaging WrestleMania this year. All right. Well, anyway, tune in next week for more sabotage. And next week also on the drive-through for more of AEW's various indiscretions. And until then, thank you, fuck you, and bye-bye, everybody.