Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 652: Birthday
Episode Date: September 23, 2026This week on the Experience, Jim talks about Jake Hager's Power Slap injury, the fake Rhea Ripley scamming a fan, WWE & Saudi Arabia, Kota Ibushi, the FBI's hiring protocol, and much more! Plus Ji...m reviews AEW Dynamite & WWE Smackdown! Thanks to our episode sponsors: ULTRA: Don’t sleep on @ultrapouches. New customers get 15% Off with code JCE at takeultra.com! #UltraPouches #ad WILLIE'S REMEDY: Order now at drinkwillies.com and use code JCE for 20% off your first order plus free shipping on orders over $95. BRUNT: Get $10 Off at BRUNT with code JCE at https://www.bruntworkwear.com/JCE #Bruntpod Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The midnight and the rock and roll
He's in a fight for wrestling soul
Using a racket and some mind control
He's Jim Cornet
The Keys to the Future
After my birthday episode of the Jim Cornett
Experience and the promotions didn't give me the gift
To good wrestling so we're going to talk about what they did give us
And more
And joining me for all this
And who knows what the hell we're going to do
Hawaiian Brian the podcasting line
the King of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you,
he helped me blow out my candles before it caused a forest fire.
Be great, Brian, last, everybody.
Aloha, Jim, happy birthday.
It's great to be here on the Hangover Edition after your birthday.
I don't have a hangover.
Well, no, the world does.
The world does from the celebration.
Well, yes, there were people partying in the streets,
but that was before that the false rumor of my demise was clarified.
but I don't have a hangover because this program is brought to you by Willys.
By golly, we'll talk more about that later on.
No hangover, no guilty feelings, no regret.
I'll tell you what I did for my 65th birthday, ladies gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages,
I did not venture outside my house because we're still in the middle of this ridiculous heat wave
where the heat index is 100 degrees or more every day.
And I did not feel the need to subject myself to that.
I got up early and I gathered my loved ones around me,
which would basically be Stacey and Buddy and Alfie.
And I played with my puppies.
You may have seen the picture, Brian, that I tweeted that Stacy took
of Buddy sleeping in my arms like a baby while Alfie guarded us on the couch.
and we and she put on the one thing the streaming
business is good for is they have an all
Alfred Hitchcock's Presents Hitchcocks
Alfred Hitchcock's. He was a single Hitchcocked him.
He was well see that's that's after he lost weight.
He was still fat here as he was Hitchcock's
but they've got an all Alfred channel
with the old Alfred Hitchcock's
I can't say it any other way.
You got something on your mind there.
a bunch of
Resents channel.
I watched a bunch of Alfred
while I was playing with buddy and Alfred
and Stacy then
grubbed us
a fine dinner
that I picked out from Gustavo's
Mexican Grill, which is my
favorite place here down the road.
And I, we had
these surf and turf
fajitas, which is
a steak and a crab meat
fajita.
along with the mummy shrimp.
These, oh my golly, I could just sit there.
If they had an all-you-can-eat-all-you-can-eat-mummy shrimp
on the menu, I would put them out of business.
Have you ever had the mummy shrimp from Gustavo?
No, I love shrimp.
What's mummy shrimp?
Mummy shrimp is they take this big old, fat old shrimp,
and they somehow or another,
they insert a little bit of a jalapeno...
the green jalapeno pepper, just a little slice of it, give it a little oomph,
and they wrap it in a nice strip of bacon that is then broiled in some fashion to
where it's a grilled shrimp with crispy bacon on the outside of it and a little pepper
on the inside, and they've got a, a, the, the Chapotlet,
nobody ever heard that word before 17 years ago.
A Chipotle sauce, it gives it some oompe, you'd,
it in the mummy shrimp.
Now that right there, your tongue will slap your brains out.
And then I played more with the puppies.
And I'll have you know the celebration is continuing into,
because Saturday night, living it up, oh yeah, Saturday night.
Svenguli in my honor of this big milestone,
guess what Spenguli is showing just because of me in my honor this week?
Guess what movie?
The German goo girls and Dumbo,
is a donkey style?
One of your favorites?
No, Spingool.
And he's never even seen movies like that.
The only donkeys he's ever seen in movies were from Disney.
The Ghost and Mr. Chicken.
Ah, fitting.
You think I'm kidding.
He tweeted me and said,
In Your Honor, this week, here's what we're showing.
So it's it's the celebration continues around the world.
Next week to celebrate Jim Hurd's birthday.
It'll be the man with no brain.
You know what?
He ought to tie something in like that every week.
A fitting fucking subject like that.
And for the Japanese market, it'll be Shabada.
But anyway, thank you to everyone.
He has a brain.
It was returned to him.
It was returned to him.
Thank you to everybody with the, there were tweets of a plenty.
Do you know, I trended my birthday.
You told me about this and I saw it.
Somehow my birthday trended on Twitter or whatever the thing is where it said,
wrestling legend Jim Cornett celebrates birthday with fans and pups.
Because I tweeted the picture of me and buddy and Alfie, you know, I don't know how that works.
What I saw said fans and dogs, but it made it sound like you had to be.
this big party for fans and dogs.
Oh, fans and dogs. Yeah, it was fans
that celebrates birthday with fans and dogs.
But thank you. And I got some cards and nice
presents and everything also. But I just, I want to read this.
This was the card that Stace got me.
And I just, because the poetry is so apropos,
I wanted to read it.
It's the, the card here that she got me.
And, uh, hmm.
A fart can be quiet, a fart can be loud.
Some leave a powerful, poisonous cloud.
A fart can be short or a fart can be long.
Some farts have been known to sound just like a song.
A fart can create a most curious medley.
A fart can be harmless or silent but deadly.
A fart might not smell while others are vile.
A fart may pass quickly or linger a while.
A fart can occur in a number of places.
and leave everyone with strange looks on their faces.
From wide open prairie to small elevator,
a fart will find all of us sooner or later.
But not all farts are bad.
This is simply not true.
We mustn't forget, dear sweet old farts like you.
That's pretty good.
Good to see Lanny Pafo still in business.
And actually it's on the back of it,
it says, licensed exclusively by Lanny Pafo
to American Greetings.
So we've got that.
But anyway, thank you, Stace.
I love you too.
She captures the essence of me,
is what she does.
You old fart.
But I'm an old fart that's full of piss and vinegar,
and I'm all out of vinegar.
That's scary.
That means when you fart,
the piss and vinegar may just come flying out at this age.
Well, yeah, at this,
you know, I have a lot of secretions at this point.
You know, you'll find out.
Anyway, we got things to do today.
We got, we got viewer mail.
We got a lot of people have written in about various things.
And this, you sent me this, so you shouldn't get upset at me for publicly acknowledging it.
But this is from Allen down in Tennessee.
And he wrote this back a week or two ago.
But he says, hi, Jim and Brian, a week or two ago, someone wrote in from him.
Cotton Town, Tennessee, and Jim had a hard time recalling where it was.
It is actually in Sumner County near Gallatin, Tennessee.
Eddie went on to say, and this popped me because I have had no idea.
And when you sent this to me, it includes a picture of the sign.
So this is legitimate.
He says, in fact, Tommy Marlin Highway runs through the outskirts of Cotton Town.
As Jim knows, and I did know this, Tommy Marlin was the brother of Eddie Marlin.
He dabbled in wrestling and later went on to a career in the military and local politics.
After his death, the state honored him with a segment of Highway 109 that runs from Gallatin to Portland.
And there's the picture.
And Gallatin, Tennessee now, I guess, is starting to be like Hendersonville, Tennessee was back in the 60s, maybe into the 80s, where it's suburban.
in Nashville. When you lived in Hendersonville in the old days,
there was where you lived out in the country. You had maybe larger property of the
country music stars lived around Old Hickory Lake. That's when
Jerry Jared had bought George Jones and Tammy Wynette's old house and lived
across the lake from Johnny Cash, blah, blah, blah. And then now Hendersonville,
the last time I was down here a few years ago, is a goddamn
sprawling massive
suburban city now
and you've got to go out to Gallatin
farther out the same road
and then you get a little bit of the suburbs
but
I got to correct Alan on one thing
he didn't dabble in wrestling
and then go into the military
and it was military
military wrestling and in politics
and the wrestling and the politics
was going on at the same time
do you Brian do you
remember when I read the souvenir ticket of a spot show they did in the late 70s in Hendersonville
where Tommy and Eddie Marlin worked with Buddy and Ken Wayne and they had all the local politicians
and county judges and sheriffs and deputies and bailers and things and such of that as
seconds and everything and advertised them on a ticket, right? Do you remember that? I think so,
yeah well Tommy Marlin somehow or another and this was concurrent with when he was wrestling in the
70s had gotten into local politics by that point he was easily 50 years old so that's why
I say the military is probably previously right before I knew him but he was in local politics
and became a county judge at one point and was still everyone was still was still reference
refereeing definitely, but as a wrestler every once in a while, he would come back and do the special
referee is wrestling deal. Like when Jerry Calhoun didn't make the Louisville end of the territory,
he was in Memphis. So when it was Bill Dundee and Jerry Calhoun against me and Adrian Street and
Linda, in Louisville it was Thomas Marlin because it had just had to be the referee for the deal that
we were doing. And I've got to tell you that in 19,
1882, Eddie was middle 50s.
Thomas would have somewhere around the same,
they were only a couple of years apart.
He was the stiffest, strongest.
Every time he touched you, it hurt.
When he grabbed you, it was like he was trying to contain a fucking murderer.
And when he hit you with that goddamn broad arm across the chest,
it hurt your back.
I would have hated
I wouldn't have fought him
for any amount of money in the world
I'd rather work with
goddamn anybody else
on a card and he wasn't being a prick
he was a raw bone rough old son of a bitch
right that's the way they worked back then I guess
but what they had done is when
Eddie Marlin
who had been in and around wrestling
you know
since the late 40s
obviously Jerry not only saw something
and in Eddie and gave him a push as a baby face and he became one of the iconic baby faces of
the late 60s and early 70s in a territory. And then later Eddie became Jerry's father-in-law.
But they started Tommy refereeing as Bobby Thomas so that it wouldn't be the giveaway. He was a
Marlon brother. And he did that for, he was the referee for the first scaffold match with Jerry
Jared and Don Green in Louisville,
Bobby Thomas.
And then they had to do a fucking angle.
Where are the heels, you know, Tommy had to reveal he was his brother,
and it was Tommy and Eddie Marlin against whoever for a couple of years there.
And by then, you know, he was fucking closing in on 50 and just started refereeing.
And he refereed every Tuesday night in Louisville for years and years.
and he would only go to Memphis when the NWA title was on the line so he'd get to
referee in a main event because he was a glory and the most glory happy fucking referee
he was never about to be any kind of a fucking heel but uh but now he has a highway
more glory happy than David Manning yes yes how is that possible because
Thomas like I said being a stiff old cock sucker like that way in
225 pounds or whatever
he could enforce
being a fucking baby face in the ring
more than David Manning could
he would
he would fucking fight to heal to keep
from not seeing something
anything in the email
but the Johnny Marlin ditch
you can sore with Johnny Eagles
or you can scratch with the chickens
but anyway
so that's good to know that they're taking
care of the local legends down there
and that's all there was in Sumner County back in the day
was country music stars and pro wrestlers.
You know, it'd be really cool.
It'd be really cool if at some point we had like a,
and I hate to use the word Memphis because it was bigger than Memphis,
but we all just think of it as Memphis Wrestling,
but a Memphis Wrestling Encyclopedia
with a picture who everyone is and just a brief bio,
but just one of every, because there's so many characters
in and out that, you know,
I'm always intrigued when you still introduce people.
people I've never heard of or stories I haven't heard and there's still so much.
Well, I had just, I saw, and I think it was Alan Cheapshot on Twitter, tweeted a picture
and I had seen newspaper ads with the names but had never seen the fucking picture.
There was a team very briefly.
Yeah.
Very briefly in the Tennessee territory working for Nick Goulis in the mid-60s, the masked
big heads.
And there was a picture.
Apparently they took what looked to be
like the outer
bladders of medicine balls
or something had fucking cut eye holes
in them and stuck them on their fucking heads.
And they were just giant round
big heads.
It didn't look real.
I've never really heard anything about this before.
And the image, I almost thought like it has to be AI
because I didn't, I'd never hear that.
No.
No.
Nicholas did this.
that was legitimate because it was so fucking shit and here's the thing it probably wasn't even
these were two guys that have probably been bugging nick and roy somebody book us in
on some of these shows and they came up with some ridiculous thing and and that's when
somebody nick or roy or was lynn rossy the booker of nick's end in the 60s because
they weren't work in memphis uh but whatever since we thought it was a
knee-slapper and
they lasted long enough to have pictures
taken and then they fucking had
them do jobs and leave.
I mean, shit like that happened
all the time because they were running. We've talked
about it. That whole
booking office out of Nashville was
either running or responsible
for talent for shows that were running
four and five shows
a night in a lot of places in those days.
Across
Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas,
Mississippi,
eastern Kentucky,
blah,
blah,
so all kinds of shit
got through.
Anyhow,
real quick,
I don't want to
bring us down
while we're up,
but I do want
to respond to
Zep's email
because he said
he lost his best boy
Rocco,
a Jack Russell
Terrier mix,
that he had adopted
14 years,
14 years ago,
yes, in 2012,
that's been 14 years.
And they were longtime listeners of the show from Arkansas,
and he said it'd mean the world if Rocco could get a shout out.
But he wanted everybody know how much he loved Rocco.
And Zep, I can only imagine.
I sympathize.
And so we're sorry for your loss.
And also, sorry that you live in Arkansas in these trying times.
But that's neither here nor there.
But on an upbeat note, Brian,
there's more birthdays going on hold on trying to pick this up here ever since the boys chewed the
earpieces on my glasses i can't see properly uh this is from stacey who is the wife of darrell
and possibly her other husband darrell i don't know but he says or she says or possibly i don't know
what her origin story is.
Hitchcocks.
Right?
They're all over the place.
Hello, Jim and Brian.
My husband is a huge fan of yours.
In fact, he is part of the club that listens to your podcast every night as he falls asleep.
You've been part of his life through many changes.
His birthday is coming up on September 26th.
I have purchased Jim's newest book and a T-shirt for him and bless you for being
such a thoughtful and considerate
wife and
homemaker and
breadwinner and whatever
else you do.
I was wondering if you might be able to give
him a birthday shout out on your show.
I know it's a long shot.
See, that's where you got to sign up for
prize picks. Stacey, you'd have been in the
fucking clover there.
But it would be such a cool experience
for him. Thanks for being you.
So, Brian, she thanks you for being
you. Oh. And she thanks
me for being me.
And I think we'd both
be miserable if I was you and you were me.
Yeah. And if we were we, but then we
were all together.
So Stacey,
cuckoo-cuchoo to Daryl.
Actually,
cuckoo-cucho is Mrs. Robinson.
The egg man was Gugoo-goo-Goo-Goo-Goo-Goo-Goo-Goo-Goo-Goo-Coo.
Well, Coochee-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-C-C-C-W was Charros.
So Stacey used to be Charo.
As before she changed her name.
Oh, I'm a big fan.
Hello, Stacey.
I want to say thank you also to Stewart over in Cambridgeshire, the United Kingdom.
And I wanted to recognize him on the air and just read this paragraph from his,
because he sent me a letter accompanying some programs from the United Kingdom,
from haven't even checked for dates and et cetera yet, but early mid-7.
you know, some of the names that you would imagine,
and Adrian Street involved in some of them,
and he thought that I might like to have them for my collection,
and he said that the podcast helps him get through his working day
and any shit's going on because he said,
I lost my father in November,
my cat Schrodinger passed away in March,
my father-in-law has terminal cancer,
and my mother-in-law has Parkinson's and dementia.
So distractions from real life,
has been welcome in the podcast, bring a smile on a dark day.
A P.S.
Fuck Vince Rousseau and fuck Dave Meltzer.
I thought I'd end on an up note, but Stuart, we, I appreciate, you know,
you said it and there are cool programs in the middle of all of this stuff you got going
on, that's dedication above and beyond.
But we wish you the best and also as your mother and father-in-law.
And thought, well, you're in there.
Yeah, yeah.
their various situations also.
But fuck Vince Rousseau and Dave Meltzer.
I don't know how I feel about Dave being aligned with Rousseau.
Yeah, I feel like it's two separate things.
I feel like it would be the first time in so long, though.
I don't know if Dave should be in the same sentence as Rousseau.
I feel like that's two separate things.
Oh, I agree there.
That is two separate things.
But I'm giving Stewart some slack because of all that he's gone through.
All right.
I will say this later on in the program.
I have learned something from Uncle Dave Meltzer that I didn't know before.
See, that's a tease.
I'm guessing it's not about hygiene.
No, that is not one of the things that that is.
Hold on now.
Now you got me out.
Oh, I got to bring up, hold on.
I've got a piece here from on the,
news desk from one of the reporting sites that we engage with to keep up on activities.
Have you heard about the hearing?
One of the drunken incompetent stooges that has been placed in an important position of power
and responsibility by our current administration headed up by Donald Schindler himself is
the director of the FBI cash position.
tell.
And right there
from a guy who says
Barack Hussein Obama
every third sentence
to pick
a guy who's
obviously of a
Middle Eastern descent of some
description
to head the FBI
is a questionable
except he was a stooge and a Fox
News embassy.
But did you hear about the hearing they had
to determine whether this guy is in any way competent to run this organization and some of the things that the FBI has been doing.
Did you hear about the hearing?
I heard about the hearing.
I heard there was a hearing, but I didn't follow it at all.
You heard about the hearing.
You heard there was a hearing, but you didn't hear what was heard at the hearing.
One of, I'm just one of the questions just caught some attention around the country and the world because this is,
the point that we've got to here, that this is so absurd. The FBI, well, I'll just, I'll just read
the opening paragraph here. That'll say it. FBI director Cash Patel on Tuesday was forced to
answer why his agency is no longer automatically disqualifying applicants who engaged in
bestiality. They have dropped their hiring standards, Brian, where they've got.
dropped the automatic, according to a memo from June, they've dropped automatic disqualifications
for applicants who have stolen from their employers, paid for sex, or engaged in
bestiality. In July, they claimed Patel did, that the FBI was losing too many qualified
candidates to the rigors of requirements from yesteryear. You know,
again, just like the
Rousseau-Melzer thing,
I don't think those things go together.
The idea that the FBI
is putting bestiality
or not limiting it
at the same time as the other things,
I think are all different things.
I can't believe that that would even,
that's insane.
But I wouldn't, you know,
guys paying for sex,
I'm sure plenty of FBI agents
have paid for sex.
So I don't know.
Well, that, that does tend to come into the
do as I say, not as I do,
if they're going to be arresting people for sex trafficking, though,
so you can see where the intent may be.
However, bestiality is a step beyond.
I just said, you know, we just, we couldn't find enough qualified people,
so we're going to drop, how about stolen from your employer?
Yeah.
I wouldn't think they're talking about office supplies.
I think they would be talking about embezzlement or some,
some high degree of goddamn criminally actionable
fucking theft, right?
Which again, the FBI, maybe a little higher standard here, please?
But even that, I wouldn't even think that would be such a giant pool of people,
let alone a giant pool of people who had been turned down for the FBI.
Like, where is everyone else that this is also how they got the ICE agents, not
too strenuous with the background checks
and fucking let's not worry about too much training
because this is the kind of people that these people
are having applied but nevertheless
just a couple of exchanges here
the question was asked
director Patel do you believe those who have previously
stolen from employers solicited sex or engaged in
bestiality or qualified candidates that the
FBI is losing.
What we did was
we did not want to punish victims of
bestiality.
Victims who were trafficked.
Patel replied,
failing to clarify that the FBI
was not in fact making it easier to hire
people who had sex with animals.
Well, hold on. You already threw me off. You already lost me a little bit.
The victims of beastiality,
he's not talking about the animals, though, being the victims of
Well, let's go to Republican Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana, who he's as bad as all of them because he's a Republican and he won't come out and tell all the truth about Trump, but he's got the most entertaining way of doing things.
He cuts a good problem.
He's from Louisiana and you're going to get some flowery language.
The quote, what about the bestiality, Kennedy said, genuinely confused? It automatically discreet.
any individual who participated on either side of it, Patel replied.
Either side of what?
The bestiality?
Yes.
So you disqualified the animal?
Patel said, well, we have great canines, but we're not going to disqualify them.
And Kennedy said, he was trying to make a joke.
Kennedy said, I'm trying to understand.
why you did this and I understand
the game people try to make you look bad
we do the same thing
when the other party's in office
Kennedy continued why would you even
get into bestiality? Patel said
we are not into beastiality
Ed Kennedy
Ed Kennedy said
I know you're not but you change the
qualifications and mentioned
bestiality if
if Joe participated in
bestiality, not as the animal, but as the human.
Don't you think he ought to be disqualified?
Kennedy Ray is still confused.
If he voluntarily did it, sure.
But if he was trafficked into it,
how do you involuntarily do it?
So he's saying there are people, and I'm sure,
considering how sick and perverse people there are out there,
maybe there are people that use trafficked sex victims
in bestiality whatever
but how many of them apply for the FBI?
Yeah yeah I'm saying it's just it's such a weird
if Joe what and besides that this would have to be
if you're a minor once you become an adult your record
is is not expunged but
clarified, whatever the point is,
if you as an adult male,
they could probably make,
as an adult male,
if you've engaged in bestiality,
you should not be allowed to apply to the FBI.
One would think.
Have you ever been a communist?
No.
Have you ever embezzled money?
No.
Have you ever engaged in bestiality?
One time, but I was in my early 20s.
But it wasn't by choice.
My girlfriend wanted to see.
it. No, it should be the answer
the answer that Lawler gave
the time that they gave him and Jim Ross a hard time
to try to get across the fucking border.
And they, it took into Canada
to go to a raw in Montreal.
And that was right after Lawler had had the
misunderstanding, the unpleasantness in Louisville.
And the guy said, have you ever been arrested?
And Lawler said,
ever?
Just have you ever engaged in
bestiality?
Ever?
Anyway,
so yeah, so that's what's going on
at the FBI.
Who's going to be the first FBI agent to get some press,
you know, this person overcame their bestiality pass
to stop al-Qaeda?
Well, if Springer,
if Springer was still around, I'm sure we'd find out quickly.
But see, it went from their eating the dogs and cats to their fucking the dogs and cats.
But involuntarily, again, what a weird defense.
Only in some cases now.
You know, there's still, it goes both ways.
We don't want to disqualify them if they're the victim.
It seems like an easy thing to kind of say, yeah, that's stupid and walk it back.
And you're right, Senator, I'll work with your office after the fact we'll fix this.
the defense of it
raises the question why
why this specific
are there certain candidates they have in mind
like all right
give us all the dog fuckers
that'll be our next group
we have to clear the runway
for the new staff we're bringing in
let's just clarify tighten up a few loopholes
hide your cows
the FBI's coming to town
hide hide the cows
outside
hell I ain't a
afraid of no cows. See, that's the punchline to an old joke. It takes about 10 minutes to tell,
so I saved you 10 minutes. Speaking of jokes, I've got to tell you, remember when I told you
the story of how that I discovered that unscrupulous people were selling my autographed trading
cards on the eBay for up to hundreds of dollars or whatever ridiculous amount of money it was.
Yeah.
Do you remember this, Brian?
I do, yeah.
Because just to bring everybody up to date briefly, for years,
I had honored, people wrote in, because I did the same thing when I was a kid.
And that's how I got Johnny Weissmuller's autographed picture, right?
Was I wrote him a fan letter.
But people would write and they would say, would you please sign my index card or my,
you know, my picture here.
They might have a picture actually.
you know, of me from somewhere
or they might just clip something out of a magazine
or whatever, a lot of kids or, you know, fans, whatever.
Do you please sign this?
Here's self-dressed stamped envelope.
Yeah, because Christine Jarrett,
if she found out that a baby face
was turning down trying to sign autograph for a fan
where she would have just thought horribly of me.
That's why I used to not charge people to take pictures
when that became a thing with their phone.
and I'll sell you a picture that I have printed and it's nice here,
but you're just taking a picture of me with your camera.
We were never in the back in the day.
It wasn't expected that a baby face would want to charge money to have the picture taken.
Of course, then I started thinking,
Christine Jared was also an astute, astute businesswoman.
And if she found out that I still wasn't charging for it at these fan fest,
what everybody else was, she'd probably give me the pinch.
So I started charging for them.
But nevertheless, I found,
then suddenly I began noticing a lot of people are sending the same
like my trading cards.
That became a big thing, or a certain one of two or three different pictures
that they had printed off the internet.
And it got suspicious to me,
and that's when I was looking up how prices were on shit,
and I saw my trading cards.
that I know I'd signed to these people in the mail,
and I said, well, I've been hoodwinked, hornswoggled, bumfuzzled,
shenanigans are going on.
And I said, well, these people ruin it for everybody, right?
And that's where we left it at last time.
I'm like, fuck you now, you fucking people.
That's the last I had brought everybody up to date on it, wasn't it, Brian?
I think so, yeah.
Well, I know some things that I haven't told people.
yet because people see it had got to the one time there i don't know whether i mentioned this
what i talked about it because i was wait to see what happened but i was getting these things
these requests with cards and or specific things same things over and over from different addresses
but i got a just a flood of them there for a short period of time it's like i was advertising that i was
doing this service, right?
I was on some kind of list.
So I started instituting
a little goddamn mental,
based on the mental notes that I'd made from all this,
I've instituted a few rules that need to be passed
or bars that need to be cleared,
however you phrase it,
to where I think you're legitimate
or one of these goddamn criminal-ass shysters
trying to make a living off other people on eBay.
and I ain't going to tell what any of those goddamn parameters that I've set are,
but if you pass my shit detection test,
then I will sign the item that's been enclosed and I will send it back.
But if you don't, I will keep said item.
And you might remember here a few months ago,
I found some more of my trading cards and put them on sale on the website.
well nanny boo-boo
send me shit trying to
fucking screw me around
and expect to get it back
fuck you
and I'll have you know
that Brian Piss some people
have continued to send me
trading cards
and some of them have got them back
and long about next February
some of them will be for sale
on the website
when I've collected enough
to make it worthwhile to put them up
but what brought this up
and no
if I'm just going to say
I'm pretty much been able
to tell who's a real fucking per
and some people started sending me a gratuity
enclosed therein
for my time and effort
which is appreciated and I will always
honor those type of things
but I've been able to weed out a lot
of the shysters but
here's a couple of letters
I just got when I checked the box right for my birthday
and I just wanted to read these two
in one of them in part.
This is a
typewritten
letter but has been
copied in some fashion because
it's in red
ink in the type and it's
big typewritten
type. Dear
Jim Cornett, and by the way
this was, they had enclosed
some cards to sign for
what you'll hear.
Dear Mr. Jim
Cornett, my kids and I are huge fans
of yours. We love all that you have done for the great sport of basketball.
We know you're very busy, but if you get time, do you mind signing these cards for my kids
and I for our collection? We enclosed a prepaid return shipping envelope for your convenience.
Thanks, your fans, Melissa and family. That's very nice. What have I done for basketball?
ball. Well, I think, you know, the Louisville Cardinals is certainly one of their most high profile
fans who never attends any games. Yes. And constantly maligned them for years when they had
fallen in a hole because of bad management and coaching and etc. You've always put over the
ABA. You've always said good things about the Globetrotters. It wasn't the Kentucky Globetrotters.
It was the goddamn Kentucky Colonels were in the ABA. But you've talked to
about various homes on their Harlem Globet Trotters that you were a fan of us.
Yes. Well, they didn't get their cards back. How many cards?
I can't remember now. The cards was in the letter. There was two, three, four, something like that.
Well, hold on here a second. Let me go to the next letter. But are they all the same card?
Are they five different cards? No, sometimes they're all the same card. And then other times it's
you know, well, hold on, let me give you a little more information from this next.
letter. This was in the same batch of mail.
Mr. Cornyn, and this is handwritten.
But see, this
now, instead of just somebody who's
just blatantly
mimeographing, as the
kids used to say, these
letters and sending them out and not even
bother to change all of the keywords
in the cut and paste or whatever,
this guy, he
knows exactly what he wants, and he's
going to spend some time
to write and tell me what
he wants.
I hope this letter finds you well.
My name is so-and-so, and I'm a senior at high school.
I'm also an aspiring professional wrestler.
I'm 5'10 and 170 pounds.
I played basketball and football, but I'm not in any sports now.
I work out and do cardio four days a week.
I like to think I'm a solid athlete.
It would mean a lot to me if you'd please answer my questions,
as you are a legend in the business.
I enjoy listening to the Jim Corvette experience.
Then you'll hear this name withheld.
number one what general professional wrestling advice can you give me number two what matches that
you're involved in do you recommend i watch and study number three what was the hardest lesson
you had to learn in the business number four what would you tell yourself before you got in the
business if you could go back in time see back arrow i would also love to get your autograph
please sign the custom cards i made as follows please sign on the fronts two of the forge
Jim Cornett, WWF cards, two of the four Jim Cornett NWA cards.
Please personalize one of each to me.
The rest of the cards, the rest of the cards, there was one more of each, are for you.
I hope you like them.
And if you'd like more, let me know.
He said he made them.
It says copyright 20 fucking 16 rookies limited or something, St. Louis.
So by the way, I'm going to be, it's my images on it.
So I'm going to be checking these people out.
but if he made him, he made him 10 years ago and then he moved to fucking Arkansas or wherever.
So basically he wants me to answer four essay questions and send him four free autographs on bootleg
cards exactly as he specifies they need to be signed.
See, that's for a self-addressed stamped envelope.
that I think is passing the
fan podcaster or fan wrestler
or fan whatever the case may be
a barrier a little bit too far on my side of the fence
don't you think
again he's demanding a lot but at least you know he put in the time
the thought and he's telling you what's up as opposed to
he's in no sports right now and apparently doesn't have a job
because he's got time to write me this long letter demanding
that I do things for him for free
or you could come back and argue the point
or possibly you've rolled over
and acquiesced
that he's a loser
geez all right
what other fans we're going to put down today
no I don't know
I'm just I'm just saying
that's a little it's a little
presumptive
that's a good word for it presumptive
I think the nicest thing you should expect
or could expect is here's one thing
can you please autograph it
the idea that it'll be a self-addressed stamped envelope
that's fantastic, but
you know, probably
you probably only appreciate that if they actually know
who you are and what you've done as opposed to
talking about your basketball career.
Do you know who I am?
Do you know what I've done?
I know who you are and I saw what you did.
That's an underrated William Castle flick.
Mama Cornett loved that
when it was on late at night on WLKY
on the weekends.
But see that, Brian, I'm telling you,
that is how you don't come at me for the merchandise.
You come at me for the merchandise like you come at the soup Nazi
with your money in your hand and a demure look on your face,
and you go to Jimcornet.com,
and you basically, you submit your money
and you get valuable, valuable merchandise in return.
There will only accrue in value that's been carefully crafted
for your fine enjoyment for years,
and years now. Wouldn't you say that's a more correct way to look at it?
Don't try to buy this bootleg stuff on YouTube. Who knows where it came from?
Might have come from up a fucking donkey's ass. Instead, get it right from the donkey's
mouth at Jimcornette.com. And right now, by the time you hear this, that is, and actually
right now, you're going to see most of it. But by the time you hear this, if you go to Jimcornet.com,
you're going to get all the sale information on our holiday sale that starts Saturday, October 3rd.
We've talked about the portfolios that are available, 11 beautiful color, 8 by 10 photos on high quality photo paper digitally remastered from the original negatives of great wrestling superstars.
They're limited additions.
They may go fast.
You can see what's going on there on the website right now, as well as Hooker.
by Lou Thess, his autobiography updated and annotated by the author, Kit Bauman, or the co-author,
as well as the publisher of Crowbar Press, Scott Teal.
We've only got 500 of those for the holidays, but if you want a book from a
first-hand source on the formation of the modern wrestling industry, that's the one you want,
and all kinds of sale prices, but I want to say two things.
Number one, Brian on the portfolios, I saw, Hotchkka's got the listings up a day early.
So if anybody saw them before Saturday the 19th, when we talk to, one of the professional photographers that we talk to about this negative project, get some advice on things, he said, well, you know, you don't want to put, when you sell these photos, you don't want to put quality images up on your website that these unscrupulous people.
and we know that there are some from the discussion we just had,
they'll be able to take them down and just do what they will with them
because they can steal them off your website.
You know you should watermark them on the website and, you know,
do this and that and the other thing.
So I looked at it and I told Hotchkiss I wanted people to be able to see.
It don't make them too big.
Or if they're small, then it's hard to steal them.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
here, the
the number of pixels.
Is this making any sense to you?
When you say small, you mean the actual dimensions of the photo,
not just, you know, make it small.
And of course, yeah, there are guys on eBay
that seemingly rip off every wrestling photo they can
and just make copies of them and sell them to suckers.
Well, and, you know, when we don't want to give them any more fodder, right?
So when I looked at the listing,
and besides the fact that Hushkes and
made these things
goddamn minute, right?
All the pictures,
you go,
I think it's like
one of those,
the old key chains
that you would look in.
That was the picture you would see.
When you click on it
to see it bigger,
he had watermarked
like copyright Jim Cornette
40 times across each picture.
I said,
Jesus Christ,
Hodgekes,
it looks like I'm looking at it
through a bowl of oatmeal.
I said, can we back up on that
a little bit?
Just make a big,
cop through the middle of the thing
one line or whatever
rather than all these little tiny lines
so I think he's updating that
so if you saw it before
September 19th you might want to go back
and look at it after we've wiped all the snot off of it
I think it's standard industry protocol
for a situation like this you put right across the middle
photo by real lano at aOL.com
Either photo by Lano
or photo by Pat Malone
one way or another.
That's right.
Even if it's not yours,
you still put photo by Lano.
That's apparently what Lano did.
But anyway,
and also I said on our previous show
that we had the last,
the final,
Bobby Eaton autographs,
and I will explain that again,
in that
basically we have,
I think there are seven things
that Bobby signed.
and let me preface it by saying normally we make everything inexpensive and affordable,
but prices on this stuff are considerate for what they are and that there can be no more,
but all the money is going to be split up again for Christmas amongst the Midnight Express this year,
and especially Teresa Condry and Bobby's kids and grandkids.
But we have the, what did I call it, the display photos.
that were, we used at fan fest going through 2019
where the boys had signed like one of each of these pictures.
And I'd put them in a stack and we hadn't been to a fan fest since.
Found them quite sometime back, but was saving him for a Christmas sale.
And I've also got three magazines that Bobby had signed,
or I think probably in Charlotte in 2019,
which was the last time that I'd seen him except for his tribute event that they did in East Tennessee that December.
And so there are three magazines, like four pictures, and an 11 by 17 All-Star Wrestling poster
when we were inducted in the All-Star Wrestling Hall of Fame.
And we had each signed a number of posters, and I kept one for my collection.
shipping it in for this occasion, once again for money for the midnight.
And that's what we've got that Bob Eaton signed.
And the biggest piece is for anybody who's wanted a Midnight Express four-pack action figure set,
one of the collector's editions in the display box with the 28-page full-color book
and the certificate of authenticity
and a picture of all four of us signed by all four of us.
We never sold one of those packages
because, as everybody knows,
Bobby passed before the figures came out,
and he passed in August when we were making tentative plans
to get together everybody in Tennessee
and that October and sign a bunch of shit.
So one,
of those packages will actually officially be offered for sale.
And all this stuff can be personalized by me.
So it's your last chance to get any of these things personalized
with all of the signatures applicable,
except if you found it on eBay and somebody else had your name.
And the four-pack is going to be $500 because somebody in the world wants that.
and the money's going to a good place.
So if they don't buy it, I don't care.
Otherwise, you can look at all the information on the Christmas sale,
now at Jim Cornett.com.
That's right, Jimcornett.com.
All right, Brian.
Well, now that we have covered a lot of miscellaneous business
from around the world, we've got to center in more on the combat sports,
the mixed martial arts, the wrestling-related item.
I guess this this thing exists in the stratospheres of those things.
Power shlapp had another event.
And one of the power slap participants again
was our friend Jake Hager,
who apparently had no sense to begin with to have it slapped out of him last time
because he decided to do this again.
And he just got knocked out last.
time. That's all. Just brain damage. This time it may be a little more complicated. And I,
we haven't got a medical report yet, but I'll let you chime in on what you thought of the
visual of it, Brian, but basically for the people who haven't seen it, run, do not walk to
somewhere. They're going to get a lot of attention with old power slap until they're fucking
brought down as a criminal enterprise.
This shit can't last.
But go see this people, because this moron
stands there and lets this other moron
haul off and slap him
not in the appropriate place,
which is like kind of on the jaw line
and the cheek and everything is where they're trying
to get you to go.
He slapped him right.
on the cheek and in the eye.
And the descriptions were, I'll tell you what I think happened,
but the descriptions were that Jake Hager was crying blood.
And it's not too far off from what was happening.
I mean, he just got knocked out the first time,
but this time, if what's wrong with him, I think,
he may have permanent damage this time.
But what was your assessment, Brian?
Yeah, and we won't know exactly what damage was already there for a long time.
But, you know, you wonder about CTE with someone like this who makes bad decisions, whatever.
This was gruesome.
You know, seeing someone get knocked out, there's still something that's entertaining about it when you know the person will get up and live, even if they will get brain damage.
But this was, you know, it was kind of like a look away kind of thing.
it's just, oh, what happened?
You don't even want to think about what could have happened.
Is it, I explode?
Well, no, but here's the thing is that we talked about,
we made fun about this whole thing, and it deserves to,
because, and Dana White's whole deal is,
let's appeal to fucking morons.
And the UFC has gone maggot,
and he's got power slap for the real moron maggot.
And that's all he's doing.
And he's giving.
morons,
pittances of money
to stand there and make fools
of themselves. There's nothing about it
that's a sport
because there's no talent involved.
It's not about being tough.
It's about being stupid because tough guys
are people who
are tough and fearless
and can thrash you, right?
It's the fake tough
from the hillbillies and the goofs
where they think
tough is just standing there and letting somebody haul off and hit you as hard as they can
without doing anything to stop them so there's no sport to it it's an entertainment for morons
and he pays a pittance to these morons that think that they can do it and prove that they're tough
when he's literally betting six figures on fucking poker hands in las vegas and he's given these guys
five or ten grand to start maybe to fucking slap shit out of each other.
Last time, like we said,
Hager got knocked out and it put him down this time.
He didn't bend over.
It didn't knock him down,
but it did worse damage because one thing that we didn't talk about before was
these motherfuckers don't have good aim either.
They're not supposed to slap in the fucking ear because there's the thing if you slap at that velocity with that much force and use the butt of your hand and it's against the fucking guy's ear.
Not only to shatter his eardrum, give him permanent vertigo, but could do a brain bleed that would kill you.
So that's not where they're supposed to hit, where they're supposed to hit.
but this fucking moron
that moron was getting slapped by
slapped him up on the upper cheek
and in the eye socket area
which is also where they're not supposed to slap
slapped
but
goddamn if these people had perfect aim
this would be the fucking billiards championship
wouldn't it?
They're just hauling off and swinging
at this dupus lending his fucking bucket head
to the occasion.
Occasionally maybe they're off.
You get highly trained pro wrestlers
that are trying to throw punches
within a millisecond of a goddamn tolerance
and failing often.
You think these motherfuckers are going to, oh shit,
I don't want to hit his ear.
No, I want to win this fucking 10 grand
they're going to give me for being in a side show thing.
If you want to participate in something
whose sole existence is for people to laugh at you and say,
look at what a dumb fuck you are,
then that's your prerogative,
but it's still not able to be controlled to be what it's supposed to be.
So one of these days,
they're going to have some motherfucker just swings and misses
and hits the goddamn bridge of the guy's nose.
It goes into his fucking brain.
and he'll be dead before his knees to hit the fore.
But nevertheless, in Jake's case,
he slapped him in the eye,
I believe, among whatever else damage that we will find out,
he ruptured his tear duct.
He blew his tear ducked up
to the point where his eye was uncontrollably watering
because it wasn't pure blood coming out of his eye.
it was eye fluid that was red because it was mixed with the blood of the damage from whatever the
fuck else that he did behind to get his fucking eye. And I would think that things could have been
detached by a blow like that. Retinus, you've heard of detached retinas? I don't, what the
fuck? And he's going, my eye, he ain't me in the eye. K's in my eye. And they're the blotting his.
So he was fully conscious in tremendous pain
and possibly now going to be blind as a fucking pirate
on a fucking pirate ship.
Well, we don't know exactly what it is.
The only thing we know is that his team right now
is saying that they think it's Tony Kahn.
But we'll have to wait and see.
I have some audio here.
Dana White, did he not call it the worst injury
they had ever had in Power Shlapp?
Here's a video going around Dana White talking to someone named Nina Drama.
I don't know if she's, uh, well, she's holding a UFC microphone, so maybe she works for them.
But here's what Dana White had to say about this.
Not good.
That's probably the worst injury we've had in fucking UFC power slap, anything.
What happened?
It looks like it's teed duck ruptured.
Something like that.
Something crazy, but I don't give a fuck if we got.
to fly a doctor in from fucking, you know, Germany.
We're going to get this guy taking care.
Yes.
The doctors have said they've never seen it before.
Oh, he's never.
Wow.
Adelaidea and Tony Wheats.
I wouldn't even let our guys replay.
I'm a replay fucking lunatic.
I'm like, yeah.
Everybody needs to see that.
Yeah, exactly.
Nobody needs to see that replay.
Well, there it is.
All right.
I have a couple questions.
Number one,
I just diagnosed a fucking condition
that their doctors have never seen before.
But they haven't brought in the noted eye doctors
from Germany yet.
Well, that's because I studied it
at the Institute in Stuttgart.
I didn't know that they were giving me
exclusive information over there.
It was done during the war, these experiments.
What the fuck?
I, no, no, he,
And he would have replayed because he's the lawsuit or bad publicity or they're going to want to ban us or whatever the fuck because of shit like that.
No, that's what the fuck that just happened.
What do you think about the idea that that's the worst injury in the history of UFC or obviously power slap, but that sounds pretty crazy?
Well, I mean, if this long-term effect.
his sight in any fashion
or see because the thing
ruptured tear duct how do you fix that
is he going to have to put drops in his eyes
every 30 minutes for the rest of his fucking
life or else why's
he's going to feel like he's got sandpaper
in his fucking eyes
I mean how
what's the remedy for this
you can't just put a cast
on it like you can't have broken legs so how
are you
if you're quantifying
horrible injuries
nobody's ever been blinded.
It definitely seemed like he was trying to get ahead of a lawsuit.
We'll pay for any doctors.
I don't care what he needs from wherever.
Also, we're not going to replay it.
The noted German physicians that we're going to bring in
and also, yeah, we're never going to see this again.
We're scrubbing this off the fucking history.
He's flabberg.
He does it.
He has just heard some shit that he didn't want to hear
and he doesn't know what to say about it.
while still trying to be the blustery, Dana, that he normally is.
I don't know the answer to this, and I don't even know that they would want him,
I presume they would, but how much does Eric Bischoff's thing, the RAF,
how much does that pay versus like power slap?
Because you would think Jake Hager, with a legitimate wrestling background,
would have been a perfect fit for that, more than, you know, standing there, like,
and I hate to say, you'll watch him, like grimacing like a goof before he's hit,
You're like, why are you doing this, man?
Are you this desperate?
Like, why are you doing this?
Could it possibly be that he doesn't need to be doing kind of because real American freestyle
or whatever, they haven't started working yet, have they?
I haven't been paying attention because maybe Jake Hager doesn't need to be competing at these,
at this point in their eyes.
When you say working, you mean, has it become a work yet?
Has it become a work?
Yes.
I haven't heard anything about that.
Well, in that case, maybe they say he's, what is he 40?
Or did we establish that?
We were talking about his options before.
I don't know.
Maybe he can wear that purple hat just a little lower.
He ain't going to be doing the bump no more for a while with any big fat women.
What?
I'm just telling you.
I don't care whether it's real American wrestling, real American slapping, real American.
He ain't going to be, nobody is going to.
of possibly ever.
I don't know what the
healing process or period, if there
is one might be for this. He might not be able
to take blows to the head anymore, ever, period,
end of story. Goodbye. See you.
Yeah, I mean, I would think no matter what this is,
power slap's done, because there's no way he could
ever be slapped again on that side of the face,
let alone on even on the other side of the face of that.
No! Shit!
Brian, listen,
have Jace and editing, cut the tape.
This is just you and me talking now,
so nobody hears about this.
just hit on the fucking deal. We can jack Dana White for millions on that idea. He can launch it by
next spring, left-handed power slap. Think about that. The lefty division. The lefty division.
That way, Jake can come back. He's got at least one more fucking show in him because they can
slap the other side. All right, put us back on the air now. So anyway, we wish Jake all the best in
this trying time and certainly realize that none of this has been brought on by his own poor
choices in life. But folks, if you'd like to make a good choice in life and protect your
physical condition and well-being, I suggest you go no further than heading over to our friends
at Brunt. That's where you need to go. I will go so far as to say this. Brian, if
If Jake Hager had been wearing a brunt work boot on his head at the time of that slap,
he would have laughed it off and knocked the other guy out, no problem.
I don't think that's allowable in the rules of power slap.
That seems like it would be an issue, more like a boot on your head.
Well, just then we're going to have to call Stephen P. New and get the brunt exemption put into power slap.
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Brian, you know yourself besides the charitable actions that we take here on the program that every year I write checks for hundreds of thousands of.
of dollars to charities around the world.
People don't hear about it because I want to remain anonymous.
That's why I never signed the checks.
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They look good.
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Work on your property.
What else can we hit on?
Well, you can also think about how much damage you can do if you get the drop on a son
of a bitch and kick him with one of these.
Think about that, but don't do that, I guess we could say.
Well, if anybody, I would suggest if anybody tries to attack you or break into your property,
just sleep in your brunt workwear boots because that way you could just be right up at
at them and throw in the kicks. And if you just catch them with just an accidental potato,
with one of these boots, that'll be enough to put them down. And you can get $10 off right now.
Just look at it as $10 off something to hit a motherfucker over the head with if they're trying
to kill you. Yeah, don't look at it like that. Once again, Brunt workwear boots, great boots.
They have other things. We love the boots. Jim loves him. He said that earlier, but I feel like
it's a good idea to reiterate that. And also, Jim, we have a promo code. Yeah. Can you imagine if
the Mongolian stomper could have worn these boots, my God, he'd have been deadly. He'd have been
in prison. They'd have put him in jail. They would have strung him up, up above the jail. He would
have just all those boots to the midsection. Holy mackerel, with a brunt, it would have been deadly.
You could have been on power stomp. Power stomp. Bruntworkware.com promo code JCE.
Brunt!
all right Brian well we got to update another thing we've been talking about lately
our friend jeff sharky sent an email and
we've been talking about the old radio clip where the riot
with cliff gustavson and sandor zabo was described from they were in minnesota
and just you know we've had several discussions on
how far back did wrestling go on experimental television then how far
back was wrestling on the radio, blah, blah, blah.
Well, listen to this one.
There's always a way to go further back.
He says, hi, Jim and Brian, on the heels of your segment,
on the 1947 Minneapolis riot match between Gustafin and Zabo.
I found this clipping promoting about with Ed Strangler Lewis and Alan Eustis
from Wichita, Kansas on July 4, 1922.
It's interesting to see how this new advancement in technology is being explained.
Extending the invitation to tour the WAAAP facility was likely an opportunity for radio stations and manufacturers alike to benefit from potential new listeners and customers.
This is wrestling on the radio when radio was new.
And the article out of the newspaper, well, first, the point being,
Brian, I don't know if you just know off the top of your head,
but commercial radio in 1922 was still new in some places,
still some places probably weren't within range of being able to be involved,
but you kind of had to be like the old hi-fi stereo fan.
You had to be kind of dedicated to be listening to the radio regularly at that point,
didn't you?
I forget what the stuff.
stat is, and I, you know, don't know what off top
my head, but it was a similar thing with
TV, where with radio,
it was kind of there, and there were some sales, and then
one year there was a giant jump.
And all of a sudden it went from, like, some people had
radios that everyone needed a radio in their house.
And, yeah, I don't
know if I answered the question or not.
Yes, I was just trailing off into
the, into the ether, into the radio waves.
But here's the article.
Yeah, Yardosphere.
Headline, Wichita's big radio plant to broadcast wrestling bout.
Radio fans within a radius of 1,500 miles of Wichita.
Tune up your receiving sets tonight the night of July 4.
Let's stop there for a second.
Within 1,500 miles in the early days of radio,
and we would have to research this.
but was every station,
did they just have the permission before an FCC
to just beam their signal of the old 50,000 watt clear channel,
fuck it, let's do 500,000 watts like they had across the river from Del Rio, Texas.
If a station in Wichita could be heard for 1,500 miles,
there was no regulation because there was so few stations to encounter interruption, right?
Anyway, the new Wichita Radio Broadcasting Station, WAAAP,
will send forth on ethereal waves detailed reports of the World's Championship
Wrestling match between Ed Strangler-Lewis champion and Alan Eustace, the Kansas Challenger.
The match will be held at the forum and will be to a finish.
At the ringside will be the Eagles Sporting Editor and his assistance with a telehealth
phone in front of him. He will communicate the wrestling bout hold by hold to the WAAAP radio station on
North Roosevelt Avenue, Wichita, and from there, the detailed account of the match will be sent
broadcast. This radio station, one of the six most powerful stations in the United States, is owned
by the United Electric Company and operated by Otto W. Taylor of the Taylor Electric Company. Radio
programs and service for it will be supplied by the Wichita Eagle. So the event tonight is an
Eagle United Taylor Affair. Listen to this terminology. Operator Taylor informs radio folk to tune in
their instruments at 360 meters. The WAAAP station will start broadcasting at 8 o'clock
tuning in by means of a record played by an Edison machine, supplied by. Supplied
by Ennis Cosgrove,
Wichita music dealers.
Following the tuning in,
so they're playing music
to give you something to tune in on
because it's the only station,
I guess, you can get.
And then following the tuning in record,
there'll be announcements of news importance
and bulletins on the preliminaries
to the big wrestling bout.
The new station,
which looms up on the hill
like tall masts of an ocean going windjammer,
is being completed this week.
The big generators in place and the delicate parts of the plant are being tested out now.
Broadcasting in the wrestling match the night of July 4th will be not only the first time the plant is operated,
but it will be in the nature of a revolution in broadcasting in the West as the plant is the largest in the West.
On Friday night, there will be a grand opening with the public invited.
come look at the radio plant
this event will not only be social
but entertaining and will include an inspection of the plant
by all who desire to attend
receiving sets will be set about the field
so the crowd may hear what is being broadcast
big doings there in Wichita Brian I'm telling you
and again if they were doing that there
what were they doing in New York
what were they doing in Los Angeles
what were they doing in other parts of the country
You know, I don't have a specific example, but I'm sure you've seen this too,
where sometimes you look back at old photos, like really old photos,
and you'll notice like someone with a microphone at a table,
or you'll notice a video camera, but a movie camera.
Yeah.
You'll notice something and you just go, where is that?
Where was that going and what exists today?
and the uncovering of the Gustafson
Sandar Zabba World Title Change,
again, I always say, what else is out there?
There's still plenty out there,
and we never really hone in on radio broadcast.
It would be nice to find out what still exists,
especially any of the early stuff that was almost test broadcast.
Well, there was a...
When I was a kid, these people were,
older, so you can imagine.
But there was
an old-time radio
subculture.
Even before comic books where
especially the big fans
would have reel-to-reel tape recorders
and there were bulletins.
I caught the tail end of it
because when I was a kid, the local
WFPL
Free Public Library had a radio station,
FM station,
and they would broadcast
Inner Sanctum or the shadow or some of the old radio detective dramas, et cetera, old radio
from the 30s and 40s.
And of course, and I got my first tape recorded, I'd tape some of those, still got the cassettes.
But there was a subculture that saved old radio, and it didn't just, it wasn't just limited
to the entertainment programs, but sports and news and people.
at the time, some of them had reel-to-reel tape recorders, some of them, who knows where they found this shit?
But it was like, who knows where some of the wrestling people find this shit?
So there hasn't been, to my knowledge, extensive cross-pollinization of the any existing old radio people that are left with these archives of tapes and the wrestling crowd.
but it might be interesting.
Like I have some old reels,
not this old,
but I got reels maybe from the 50s and 60s,
maybe 70s too,
that are wrestling audio,
it's impossible to find places
to get them converted.
Of all the formats,
that's one of the hardest ones
that when you try to buy an old machine,
like sometimes the best case scenario is
has all the parts.
Yeah.
Not even like, I've tested it,
just it has,
stuff. But yeah, I mean, you got to wonder what else is still out there.
That's why there was a forgotten format in a lot of ways. My dad was going to real to reel.
That's the thing is there was a lot of, again, I don't know if the word is cross-pollinization,
but there was crossover between some of the hi-fi fans and some of the electronics expert that
fixed, you know, the primitive audio and video machines and people who collected the blah, blah,
because they could fix their shit.
So,
anyway,
you're always learning something,
you're always finding something.
Brian, I learned something
this past week.
See, you can teach
an old dog do tricks.
And I learned something from
Uncle Dave Meltzer.
Would you like to know what that
something was? You're not dyeing
your hair, are you?
No, no.
It's too
the cat is out of the bag and the follicles are out of the scalp.
But Uncle Dave, because, you know, lately the,
Mexico City is the center of the wrestling world,
and they're drawn the big crowds at every promotion had run there in one week,
and they just had all these shows.
I think he said they had 76,000 fans over six shows in four days,
attend pro wrestling in Mexico City.
But,
The highlight of this was two different promotions drew more than 10,000 fans in the same city to shows at the same time.
That has happened very rarely in history that anybody has records of.
And one good thing about Uncle Dave, spending all his time, you know, with these records, because most of his old friends won't talk to him, he's got, he's got, he's got
the things at his fingertips.
And I found out
something about a show that I was on
that I did not know until now
and it's been 40 years ago.
Because there were two times
during the
1980s war between the
WWF and Jim Crockett promotions
where we were both in the same town,
both companies on the same night
and drew more than 10,000 people.
And I knew about one of them,
but I didn't know about
out to the other one. And we tried our best to help them out in Cincinnati that one night in
March of 86. We had 12,000, but Hope could only get 70-something hundred at Riverfront. So we felt
bad for them, being the B team. At Riverfront Stadium? It was a Riverfront Coliseum.
Oh, okay. No, they didn't run River. We ran it once. Yes, but we didn't have 12,000 people in
it we ran the stadium but we did when we sold out Cincinnati Gardens.
Anyway, it was two nights in Philadelphia.
As a matter of fact, back-to-back Philadelphia shows, December 86th and January 87.
And I knew about the December one.
That was the WWF, December 13, 1986 in Philly at the spectrum.
It was Hogan and Orndorf in the cage match for the W.
WF title and they did 14,132.
And Crockett was at the Civic Center.
It was Flair against Nikita for the NWA title and the Road Warriors and Dusty against
the midnight and Bubba.
And we did 10,215 people.
So that was, because we thought we were going to sell out.
But we got down and found out.
they're down the road.
Oh, shit.
But that's 24,000 something
tickets sold in the same town.
And Brian, you probably know the geography better than me.
How far was the spectrum from the Civic Center?
Oh, not too far at all.
I mean, again, it's the same city and
not too far at all.
But I mean, it's, it's, the spectrum was near the stadium area
when you go across the bridge, right?
Right, when you get across the bridge,
the Walt Women Bridge.
So that was, we would drive,
10 minutes through the town and city traffic and be at the civic center.
So it had to be like five miles as a grow flight.
There may be no better example as to there being two different audiences for the two
different companies than those two Philadelphia shows.
The fact that they drew that those kind of crowds for both companies.
Well, but he got bigger.
And I should say that since I have the gate information for the Crockett show,
we could extrapolate the WWF, but Crockett,
10,215 people, the gate was $110,000.
So that was about an $11 ticket average.
So you were looking at probably 15, 12, and 10,
or 15, 12, and 8, whatever the fuck it was.
So even if we got a $10 average,
WWF did 14,000 people, so they did 140,
50 grand. So that's over $250,000 in tickets purchased in the same town, the same night for two
events. And if you go to the inflation calculator, it's a dollar then was $2.95 today. So let's say
$3. That's $750,000 being spent on 24,000 fucking tickets. That's how hot wrestling was in Philly.
but January 10th, here's what I didn't know.
I never knew this until I can't remember knowing this until now,
or I would have crowed about it.
On January 10th, 1987, WWF at the Spectrum was Savage and Steamboat in the main event
for the Intercontinental title and did 14,067,
but that's also the night where, again,
Flair and Nikita with the NWA title rematch and the main event,
Road Warriors and Midnight in the Scappled match,
we sold out the Civic Center.
And Dave has 13,000.
Actually, it was 12,000 and change, whatever.
I don't think it was quite 13.
But nevertheless, that's 27,000 tickets in the same city.
And we did 161 grand.
because I've always mentioned
that we had the record
the biggest gate that Crockett ever
did in Philadelphia
the slap dab sellout
of the Civic Center and it raised
prices 161
grand
and so if you assume that
the WWF even
with a $10 average which they beat
$300,000
between the two shows
that's almost a million
dollars
and we were both running to town every fucking month.
That's how hot wrestling was in Philadelphia
in that period of time.
So, WW is about to run head-to-head with AEW all out in Chicago.
I guess it's still not determined if worlds collide,
the AAA-W-E show will be televised or broadcast or distributed live,
which is fascinating, I guess.
But they're still, you know, I guess that's kind of a modern example.
Not that AEW is the modern Crockett crowd, but just the idea in that one town,
those are clearly two different fan bases.
Yeah.
WWE, well, specifically Lucha, and the AEW audience,
which they've kind of defined who their Chicago AEW audience is.
And the thing is, the economics,
have changed to the point where
they will, I'm
sure, equal or
exceed, well, obviously they'll
exceed a million dollars
in a total gate
for the shows, but
do you think they're going to sell 27,000
tickets? No.
Just a fucking flash
back to the old days.
Well, I guess, Brian,
before we go any further, I understand we've got
a medical update, the
Dr. Gupta,
Swifti Gupta, our medical correspondent, has sent something in on one of our injured competitors in the wrestling world?
I don't know about the doctor, but we have a statement that was put out by the patient, as it turns out.
This is from Instagram.
Has he lost his patients?
From Cota Ibushi, who we've had various other statements about his medical condition released by him in the past that often led us to scratch our head and wonder what was
actually happening and his foot almost fell off, I think, at one point.
At one point, you know, have you noticed that the old saying birds of a feather flocked
together, can you think of two weirder individuals than Kenny and Cota there to find each other
and become friends?
Well, I guess Kenny's probably hoping this all doesn't happen to him because Cota has been
just in a series of breakdowns, physical breakdowns over the last, if not a decade close to it,
it's getting to that point.
But here's the statement he put out on Instagram.
Well, because he had the broken femur.
Femba in the morning and it's still broken in the night he broke his femur.
And again, in his prime, he was someone that, if not on steroids, certainly had a physique,
was a high flyer.
He had a physique that pudgy little dope.
Bowie blob of biscuit dough that we watched, hurt various things, and his few appearances in
AEW once had a physique.
Well, when he came to AEW, he had no physique, and he seemingly couldn't work anymore,
and everything he did looked bad, and those were fans that were dying to cheer for him,
and they couldn't, but let's go to his latest statement from Instagram.
Regarding this surgery, this is the first thought that came to mind.
Maybe it's only because of where I am right now,
but I feel I need to write it down.
It's the first time I've felt like giving up,
like I'm about to lose to myself.
I don't know what the future holds,
but I'm grateful that I was able to wrestle professionally
for 22 years.
Setting aside whether I'll make a comeback or not,
the first question is whether I can even become a normal person again.
Okay.
For the past year,
or so, I've been living on medication typically prescribed to cancer patients.
Good Lord.
That means my condition isn't normal.
Normals in quotes there, as it was before.
My specialists urged me to have another surgery as soon as possible, which led to this
procedure.
Given my age, I want some time to think things through, but I'm going to try to face the
reality of my situation head on.
surprisingly I was able to get out of the wheelchair in just one day
I still can't move very well but I've managed to start using crutches
I would like this to be my last surgery
so I ask for your understanding in this matter
and that is the statement for what what does our understanding got to do with
anything yes I understand you'd like it to be your last surgery
but we have nothing to do with it
none of us. That's up to your bones, them dry bones.
That's ridiculous.
Do these people not see what they are doing to themselves?
And when somebody does something like this, they don't all think, you know,
what the fuck am I doing back flipping off a goddamn top rope or lighting grid on the
fucking stooges that are allegedly supposed to catch me or diving off this or falling through
furniture or doing all that shit that he apparently did for 22 years.
I wouldn't, you know, I don't wish this on him and it sounds like he's having a quite miserable
time, but Jesus Christ, what do they all expect is going to happen? This was not what to
pro wrestling business was supposed to be.
And if they had created an offshoot, did we've said this a few times?
What did we say they wanted to call it aggressive parkour or, you know,
acrobatic stunt fighting on tour or whatever?
That's one thing.
But wrestlers should not be in a condition like this when they're 40-something instead of 80-something.
Yeah, only old timers, you know, with the
Luth is with his knuckles the size of golf balls and shit like that.
But what the fuck?
I just, I don't get it.
Yeah, you shouldn't need medication for pain that's prescribed the cancer patients.
I don't know if that's oxy-contin or what that is.
And it's, how long ago did he do that?
That was a year ago or more he broke it, right?
the second time or the second round of things maybe it may have been a little longer than that
well no not the when he broke the femur when the the move remember was whatch call it josh alexander
oh that's right he was on the top rope that's right trying to give him the fucking death valley
driver off of the top turnbuckle or whatever and remember but i i don't want to
indict Alexander for it because I remember at the time that he was trying to get
Abushi up and Abushi looked like a sack of fucking potatoes, just giving him no help
whatsoever.
And then they all just came tumbling down.
You know, we hear a lot about the modern style.
You know, it's one of Dave Meltzer's big defenses when talking about, you know, how much
he loves the modern style and that if we're not a big supporter of it or a fan of it,
we're not with the modern style.
Thinking about the style and thinking about
what it does to people,
before Mick Foley,
I can't think of too many wrestlers of anyone
who intentionally fuck themselves up.
The business wasn't about that.
Chris Cole, because he was already fucked up
in a different way. Yeah, he was high in the ring,
seeing spiders attack him in the cage,
but wrestlers,
wrestling wasn't about
messing yourself up
in the name of performance.
After McFoly
and I guess the next round was Saboo
and that led into ECW
where lots of guys
were hurting themselves regularly.
I guess you could talk about.
That's why I have, you know,
called into question
some of Pauli's fucking scruples
in the past, but go ahead.
But, you know, now we're in a style
that it's less about the hardcore shit,
even though people still
I just saw Mickey Knuckles apparently got burned in some match.
She's in a hospital now.
Oh, yeah, they set her on fire.
Yes.
I saw them.
It's not really newsworthy anymore when somebody gets set on fire,
but apparently she got set on fire real good.
And what is she a 45 or whatever year old pudgy woman who, why would you be?
It's not good.
Yeah, it's, there's no reason for it.
It's not good.
And it's awful that she had that happen to her.
But that's garbage wrestling.
the problem now is the modern style to circle back to that the modern style that's championed by a lot of the wrestlers and a lot of the people that parrot what they hear from the wrestlers they're reporting on is this ultra physical style that in a lot of ways because we're dealing with a lot of people that are not big physical guys it hits even harder than you know the physical style of all japan in the 90s or anything because
You know, you know what happened to Masawa, but besides that, these guys are all just landing on their head, landing on their neck,
just jumping nonstop.
It's a miracle Randy Savage didn't have his legs fall off.
The amount of times he jumped from the top rope to the floor with no padding.
But everyone's just back flipping to the floor.
And it's crazy.
Well, remember, eventually, because of that and the elbow off the top, his knees were so bad, he was landing on guys with the elbow.
And that's what we broke Charles Robinson's ribs.
But back to, I don't even agree with physical style.
I agree with what you said.
But I want to name it something different because, yes, the physical style in all Japan
and the 90s just crippled a bunch of guys.
But the better wrestling styles in the bigger territories in the territory days were very physical.
they hit hard in safe places they knew how to work they you would be black and blue you would
never go to the hospital that type of shit and you can't even say that guys never intentionally
fucked themselves up because in a controlled way they did hard ways or even blade jobs for
business to draw money not because oh this would be cool
let Ron Wright hit me with the fucking chisel. That'll be fun. But again, there's a difference between
a hard way and landing on your head. I mean, one example I think of is the cinder block actually did
fuck up a Mongolian stomper. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is in the territory days of the
traditional business, it was all done by agreement beforehand in a controlled way and still to
make things more believable as you were in a fight rather than believable you were in a fucking
car rack and you didn't have to be thrown off the goddamn balcony and you didn't have to
the endless furniture the announced desk even if you pull the pins and it fucking collapses
that's a goddamn jolt and the thing is we would Fargo use tables in the rig in the 60s but
he'd throw it in a rig and lead it up in the quarter and run guys into it what the
it's there's that's the point is we've lost complete
track of let's have a wild fight and make people believe it, want to see it, and buy a ticket
to it to let's do a live action stunt show where we're going to be having surgery or hurt
as often as we work, which is why, even if they did still run 300 days a year, none of these
guys could do it because they'd be crippled in four months if they were working six
nights a week.
But that's why, I mean, the art has been lost.
It's just a goddamn cluster fuck of stunts.
And they've trained the people that that's what they're waiting for.
So I tip my hat to you, people.
You've fucked it all to hell.
And look, you don't want the injuries at all.
But there's also a difference between getting injured doing the biggest move in the biggest
match right before the finish. Not that there's many examples of that. And, you know, ruining your
career in a match on collision. Doing something in a match where it doesn't match, at the end of the
day, it's another match on another show. In the middle of another multi-man match on the show,
you're another guy doing the same flips everyone else is doing to minimal reaction.
You've got a spot show match, you've got a TV match, you've got a house show match,
you've got a big show match.
That's the way it used to be.
And people could judge the risk to reward ratio
that they felt they were going to get accordingly
and adapt.
And now everybody, again,
and it doesn't mean to go out and lay it a headlock
or to lay on your ass.
That means keep moving in a less dangerous fashion.
Jesus Christ.
Well, that's the medical update from Kota Abushi.
obviously one of the pillars of the high end,
as Dave Meltzer put it, style of wrestling.
Well, the pillars are crumbling.
And the walls come tamily down.
Okay.
Speaking of pillars, I needed a pillar to go to sleep on.
It's what I needed on Smackdown this week.
They shocked us.
They shocked the system last week in Mexico,
and then they came back.
and well, they just kind of gave us a nice little sleeping pill.
There was one match on here I would have liked to have seen if there had not been so many commercials in the middle of it.
And basically they're continuing the Sammy and Kevin and punk business,
which all in all I don't have a complaint with except it just again,
there was a long show here with a little bit of stuff in it.
Guada Gargano.
And that.
They were in Corpus Christi, by the way.
The Holiday Inn used to have great room service right there on the water side, beach side,
whatever they call it there, on the main drag right up from the Coliseum,
which I'm sure has been torn down now.
But anyway, they started the thing out last week, Sammy beat punk for the belt,
Holy shit.
Recap that.
Then Aldous was in the ring and reluctantly introduced Sammy.
And he made his entrance and he's a full heel now.
He got booze and he's got.
And it's great.
He's,
he kind of can be himself no matter whether he's a baby face or a heel because
he was the weasily kind of whiny, snippety guy that
got endearing in the bloodline, and that's why he was a baby face, and he does have some nice
friends, and then at the same time, he can get his nose out of joint and get in a snoot,
be a whiny, bitchy complainer, and he's right back in the heel category.
But somebody brought something up on the internet I saw that I didn't think of.
I don't know whether you mentioned this, but since they switched the bell to Sammy,
it prevents them from having to have punk against rains in Saudi Arabia in November
where it's supposed to be champion versus champion.
Oh, I didn't even think of that.
Yeah.
Well, see there?
So they must be thin and a head up there.
So you get Sammy versus Roman and Saudi Arabia if they go to Saudi Arabia,
which I'm going to assume they know.
Well, we'll talk about that in a second.
But that way that, yeah, they don't have to waste the money match on the show that they're
getting an
exorbitant
amount of money
for anyway,
they can give them
the champions
would be Roman
and Sammy.
You think they can
have a
but anyway?
Do you think
they'll have Sammy
go over
Roman in Saudi Arabia?
I know.
I don't think
they'll go that far.
I don't know.
And I don't know
whether that
would work for
Roman, brother.
The money.
Well,
lots of money.
In that case,
if early in the show
you see Roman
Raines just
walk out in
the building, walk around the ring and go back to the locker room, you'll know that he's
asked for a fucking extra of million dollars to go out.
The Saudis got that Ted DiBiase philosophy.
Everybody's got a price.
Whatever it is, they can meet it.
Well, in that case, he might walk around a building twice like Jeff Jarrett did.
Anyway, so Sammy was blister and all this.
You know, it must kill you that I'm the champion.
And justice for Sammy was.
justice for all, even those of you booing me.
And now you've got a champion with a sense of morality.
And he was venting until all of they played music and it was
that little fucking goblin gargana.
And I'm, fuck me.
And he comes out with candy.
Even Michael Cole called her by the wrong name.
Did you hear that?
No, I did not.
He called her Candace Michelle.
I missed that.
With his wife, Candace Michelle, I've seen a picture of Candace Michelle.
I think she could whip both of them.
Anyway, Johnny wanted his title shot, and Sammy was like, well, I never said that.
You said that.
And I don't, you know, and then they started arguing.
And then Johnny wanted the shot tonight, but Aldous said, look, Sammy doesn't make the title matches.
I do.
And Aldous revealed that as far as he's concerned, punt.
is next in line, but he's not here
tonight.
And then all of a sudden, Owen's music
played. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ, at least we
don't get Gargano.
And, but
now we've, here we've got, I said,
here we go, because we got, they love
it. Owens and Sammy.
They will be
senior citizen 70 years old
having a match in their backyard for their grandkids.
And Owen
said he deserved the shot.
And then Candy jumped in and said,
Now, Johnny's next.
So Owens turned around and stuttered Johnny, and he bumped out and stayed there.
And then Aldous and Owens argued about the title shot until Owens was kind of almost getting
him to reconsider it.
And Sammy got hot and snatched Nick up by the jacket.
And Nick said, get your hands off me.
I make the matches and I've decided it's you and Owens tonight.
I'd got a big pot.
Plus, Aldous could take Sammy.
well Aldus could take everybody
they better be glad he controls his temper
and then of course Sammy argued with Aldus all the way to the back
as Sammy standing there all for climped
the music plays here comes Orton he passes
but looks at him like a little kid shines a belt up
and walks off of the smirk on his face
and that ended that segment
before we go any further Brian your thoughts on this
verbal confrontation I thought
Sammy was really good here.
I'm not a fan of Gargano and Candice all of a sudden being in this.
It just seems weird that these two people that have not necessarily been booked well
or that the fans really had a clamoring to see much of.
Or that have any fucking charisma or talent whatsoever.
It just seems a little weird that they're in this spot right now out of everyone there on the roster
and people they could elevate.
I don't know if I'd be elevating Johnny Wrestling right now.
He was like half a foot smaller than Sammy,
who I don't think of as being a really big guy.
I mean, so, I mean, just it stood out.
With that said, I thought Owen's stuttering him
and getting him out of there right away
was a pretty good way of doing it.
I was afraid that they were going to set up a multi-man match.
Thank God they didn't.
I'm so sick of, you know, the show begins as a promo,
music hits someone else comes out,
and more music hits, someone else comes out.
There's got to be a better.
way to do that that's not so tiresome. I hate to use the Kevin Dunn word. It applies here.
But yeah, I mean, it's every episode of every one of their shows at this point.
AEW at least begins with 20 people in the ring having a random match. WV.E has 20 people
come out to theme music one after another after another. But I thought this is good and
it's set up a pretty big main event. I mean, what should be a pretty big main event,
we needed to see a lot of it, but it should have been a pretty big main event.
Well, and basically I'll skip over a couple things, and we'll go to that because
Orton was on his way to the ring because another one of these endless three ways to fill TV time,
money into bank qualifier.
And it was Orton and Trick and Phoenix.
And technically, it's three baby faces, but Orton was there to make people think that it was a big match.
and credibility basically
and Phoenix was there
to do a job for trick
and that's what they do
they'll put a star in this fucking thing
so it looks important
and then the star will evaporate
and somebody will beat the other guy
and
because the people know that
well fuck the money in the bank
Orton could get a title match
anytime he wants
so that
that was that
shaky Nakamura has a new friend
from Japan wearing a fucking
Ronald McDonald outfit
and they wrestled the panda bears
the sit down with Cody and Michael Cole
then my I knew they had you
and your attention Brian when they started out
Michael Cole said well you you weren't able to pull the trigger
your favorite phraseology
stupidest thing
but and they did make the nice point that when Cody won the title
they had the picture of everybody came in the ring and celebrated with him
and they've all stabbed him in the back.
But this was done to be so dramatic and somber and serious that I went to fucking sleep.
I don't know what the rest of the shit was they said and I don't care.
Did I miss anything?
Dusty Rhodes could come out, command the attention of the entire room,
whether it was a fucking arena or a room full of wrestlers because he was doing a pre-tape
and in three minutes gets you hyped up to want to see something.
He didn't need to fucking sit down and goddamn contemplate.
How much contemplating were they doing?
I don't think Cody comes across well in these kind of settings.
I think Cody needs to be fired up in the ring.
If it's not that, his promo skills or his mic skills,
I don't think he's relatable.
Well, I'm not related to him, but some people are related to him.
Are you saying his relative should disown him?
yes that's what i was saying okay all right well i'll keep that in mind anyway and then we had to sit
through the other money in the bank qualifier Alexa and jane wayne gasey and jade jane way
gay and you ever notice she looks like margaret hamilton no but now i'll never not see it
i can't not see every time she comes out there trying to look all sexy i'm like she was like
the wicked witch i double dog dare somebody to put her entrance
over the top of
I'll get you my pretty
and your little table too.
So then we got what,
and I've been watching these matches for 15 years,
so I know they certainly know each other well
and can tear the house down.
Sammy Zane and Kevin Owens.
And basically they jumpstarted it.
Kevin lit into him and beat him up
and Sammy bailed and they went to the break in 30 seconds.
And I'm like, okay, well, they come back after about three minutes.
And Sammy stopped Kevin and we're getting some heat.
And they don't take as many stupid bumps as they used to back in 2010.
They work smarter.
So they got that going for them.
But they got a couple of two counts and then went to break in another four minutes.
So we've seen four and a half minutes.
match and we come back from that break with like six minutes left on the air.
And suddenly, Owens gets a two count and here comes Gargano and draws the referee.
And I swear to God, candy comes off the turnbuckles and tornado DDTs Owens.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
And then Sammy hits the kick and gets a two count.
And then Owens.
hits a pop-up power bomb and a stunner and covers him,
and old Johnny's same face put Sammy's foot on the ropes,
break the count.
So Kevin went out and beat up Johnny and picked Sammy up
and dropped him through the announce desk.
But then Johnny got the belt and came into the ring
while I think Candy had the referee, I believe it was.
But then Owen stuttered.
and he dropped the belt, but suddenly at ringside,
CM Punk appeared.
And CM Punk got the belt and rolled in and
didn't roll in, got up on the apron and whacked
Owens over the head.
But Sammy ran and kicked Punk off the apron.
So there's Owens there unconscious.
Sammy turns around and covers him and the referee.
And I'm going to try to help me if I don't describe this properly,
Brian, because this was the biggest cluster fuck here for the next 30 seconds I've ever seen.
The referee counted one and two, and you could hear his hand slap the mat on the microphone,
on the audio, and the people are one, two, and then he slapped the mat three, but he didn't
slap it hard enough that it even made any noise, but he immediately raised his
his hand and called for the bell, made the bell motion.
At which point,
Sam, there was no pop from the people because they heard the bam, bam,
and then just nothing, but then the call for the bell and they start to pop,
but then Sammy looks up,
confused at the referee,
and if you notice, if you go back, anybody wants to,
if you're bored in fucking,
solitary confinement or whatever.
At the same time,
Sammy looks up confused at the referee.
He has slipped his left hand underneath
Steen's left shoulder and is kind of
slowly, imperceptibly lifted it off the mat,
like maybe nobody will notice.
Michael Cole immediately said,
I think Steen got a shoulder up.
Then Sammy gets up and starts arguing with the referee.
And he's arguing,
with the referee that just counted
the three and called for the bell
with him being the winner.
So I'm not sure what his bone of
contention was, except
that what he was really doing
was telling the referee what to tell
fucking Stain to do.
Where then this referee,
this fucking
slop-faced referee,
he just blank.
He just standing there like,
I don't know what the
fuck he's done in this whole thing.
he goes over after Sammy has argued with him about winning
and tells Steen to get up and get in the corner
and Steen gets up and gets in the corner
and Sammy runs over and hits the Huluva kick
and covers him one, two, three.
And then punk comes in and beats up Sammy
and hits the GTS and then gives one to Owens.
But the people knew that the finish was fucked
and they were all kind of like,
I don't know what exactly went wrong, but it was a lot.
Yeah, I don't know what to say about that.
It was really noticeable.
The clip went around right away.
It's embarrassing when that shit happens.
Was Owen's just completely unaware of what was going on?
Well, here's the thing.
Since Sammy was going to win anyway,
and I don't know what the problem was, is what I'm saying to you.
Because it doesn't look like Owens didn't try to kick out.
And based on the finish that they were doing,
he shouldn't have tried to kick out.
And the referee did make a visual three count,
and called for the bell.
But on the third one, for whatever reason,
you couldn't hear it.
So did they, did Sammy, did they,
the wrestlers not realize he had counted three
and thought he'd fucked up?
And because he's just a blank fucking slate,
black hole of charisma,
he stood there dumbfounded instead of telling him,
I counted three, you're the fucking winner.
I don't know, but this was one of the most awkward things
I've ever seen.
And again, there was,
there was no fuck up of a finish in terms of the wrong guy winning.
And it didn't make any sense for Owens to kick out at that point.
So why he didn't count to three with vehemence and I don't know.
And then afterwards, why did he just say, I counted the three and you won and hold his hand up?
I don't know what the fuck was happening.
But at first, even before everybody got confused,
when I heard the one, two, and then didn't hear the three but saw it,
I thought my audio had gone out on my television.
But then I realized that I realized I don't know what the fuck they were doing.
But they didn't either, apparently.
And that was that.
Yeah, I mean, I think it would have enjoyed it a lot more without all those commercials
in the main event.
It kind of took me out of the match.
It was waiting for it.
What we actually saw of match.
I think six and a half or seven minutes around the commercials.
Yeah, you were just waiting for whatever the angle was going to be at the end.
Yeah.
Again, Triple H must love him some Johnny Garcana with Candace LaRae.
It's amazing, isn't it?
It's inexplicable.
They got that big push in NXT with Austin Theory and Indy Hartwell as their stooges
where they were doing like segments in their apartment,
got brought up to the main roster, got the be on TV,
in a coma for a year
or whatever it was?
I think he's been on TV at a coma for 10 years
or however long he's been on TV.
They let Champa leave,
but they're like, we got to hold on to Gargano.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
You know what the problem was?
Everybody was on edge, Brian, in the match.
Everybody was nervous.
Everybody was hebie-jee-jeebies.
Everybody was jumpy.
They just needed to relax and calm down
and just smooth themselves out
be able to think and, you know, maybe just to kick back and socialize about to finish for a
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See, that might work, don't you think, Brian?
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Well,
they may need to take a couple extra
of bottles of willies over to
Saudi Arabia in
November because
I don't know for sure
if they will be allowed to come back.
There may be a new regime
by then or they may all be
blown up by the
budding hydrogen bomb
war taking place over there or whatever.
They have made
Saudi Arabia has now
got a travel restriction from the United States.
Our government, as incompetent as it currently is,
is still saying, oh, you don't want to go over there.
And this is six weeks from their $50 million, you know,
party in under the stars.
What are they going to fucking do?
And again, right after that, WrestleMania next year is supposed to be in Saudi Arabia.
Oh, shit.
That's the real big one.
you know if I were them I'd get started
I'd buy some land in Montana and build a stadium
just as a backup with WrestleMania
dependent on these people and their
various politics over there and what's going on
do you think that just real quick as an aside
do you think that concept could ever work if
W.W.E bought land in the middle of nowhere
but enough land that they could build themselves
a customized
stadium that could seat however many they want, and they say going forward,
WrestleMania or SummerSlam, whatever, will be here.
Do you think they can get people to fly to the middle of nowhere to go to their arena a few
times a year?
No.
That's a short version.
And here's the thing, if they're also in the middle of nowhere, where all those people
go to fucking stay?
Where are they going to get a car?
Well, you can then build your own hotels and make money all that.
Just build roads.
Just make WWE.
We land.
Weeland is for you and me, ladies and gentlemen.
Weeland, formerly the whiff.
Vince always wanted to be Walt Disney.
Instead of Epcot, they could make Weeland.
Disney wanted that to be an actual city where people lived and worked and played and blah, blah, blah.
It was going to be the experimental prototype city of tomorrow.
Epcot.
Exactly.
And by the way, if you ever see the original designs, because what Epcot became is not what Walt Disney's original vision was when he was trying to get that land in Florida.
There's a video out there of him presenting what his plans for Disney World were to whatever board in Florida that he needed the votes from.
And Epcot literally was going to be a city with a unique city plan.
Yeah, the hub thing and the whole nine yards, right?
And free-flowing transportation.
and etc.
Monter.
Yeah, that's right.
But anyway, instead,
Florida, being Florida,
they just decided we don't want the monorail,
we'll just have the mono.
But the point being,
no,
they wouldn't be able to do that
because you can't motivate
that many people to go somewhere
where it's not equipped for that kind of tourism.
If they
got a stadium,
or if they built a stadium in a major metropolitan area,
like a New York or a Los Angeles or whatever,
I'd say they might have a shot at,
but there's no way to make building something like that cost feasible
to only use it a couple times a year for big shows.
And if I were them, I'd try to buy,
since they've got more money to federal government,
I'd try to buy an existing arena in the four or five largest market.
and save myself that rent and rent a son of a bitch out and have it managed like normal,
but you own it, you don't need to pay rent.
That might be something now that they can just piss away hundreds of millions of dollars they ought to look at.
If one of their regular arenas was up for sale, should they consider buying it?
Well, that's what, depending on the market and the arena and the price, yes, I think,
again if it's someplace that like a major market that they wanted to run twice a year
for a TV taping or some kind of big show for the next foreseeable future
they don't have to just open the building twice a year what I'm saying they could buy the
fucking thing they could then operate the arena as it's been operating and rent it to all
the other tenants and make money I assume the arena would be making money already
why would that come to an end
and they wouldn't have to pay rent on the goddamn thing
when they came there?
Are you surprised Vince McMahon
hasn't bought a bunch of arenas
with his spare time now that he can't get back
into the day-to-day functionality of wrestling?
I think somebody ought to tell him the fucking idea
that Terry Funk and Jerry Jared had
where they'd just go on Thanksgiving Day
when every promoter in the country
wanted to run their biggest show of the year
they'd find out that Jerry Jarrett and Terry Funk
had put holes on
renting all of their arenas and they'd have to rent the arenas from Terry and Jerry.
And then they realized, well, wait a minute, what if they just, these sorry some bitches
just decide not to run, then we'd have to pay all those rents.
Well, back to Saudi Arabia.
Well, you don't have any of these problems with rent.
Yeah, well, back to Saudi Arabia is what we might not be able to do because the travel
restriction is either a three or a four, depending on what part of Saudi Arabia, the
country.
Out of one.
But a three is, you know, exercise extreme car.
We advise you don't do this, but do it if you're goddamn gonna.
And four is like, don't fucking do this.
Is that the way I'm basically understanding it?
Is it a five star scale?
Does it go up to five or is it go up to ten?
No, well, once Dave gets finished, you know, six will be, oh, goddamn, apologize
immediately for thinking about going here.
Five would have been a big terroristic thing.
years ago, but with all the high-end stuff nowadays, six.
Yeah, it's just, it's really expanded.
But no, that's from the State Department,
because I read the deal because of the risk of terrorism, crime,
drone attacks from Iran.
It said crime.
I didn't see it.
I mean, the other things I think are reasonable right now, crime?
Well, as far as if you're a fucking American or a foreign person
and somebody decides to kidnap you or fuck you,
around because you're on the other side.
That's crime. It's not like they're saying
you're going to be pickpocketed
if you're a fucking citizen. Forgive me.
For whatever reason, I was thinking just exclusively
WWE not realizing this was a statement
actually for all citizens
to be careful over there.
Yes. No, this is the State
Department telling citizens of the
United States of America
that they
might better not go there.
But yet the highest
profile citizens of the United States that are going to visit Saudi Arabia
this year in terms of fucking their faces are plastered all over television globally
and they're advertising us for this big stadium
well they'd be attention getters for drones or kidnappings or terrorist activities
or whatever the case Jesus Christ
yeah you know that that's the thing it's not even
just, obviously I don't think you should go over there right now for tourism.
It doesn't seem like a bright idea.
But if you are a movie star, you know, making an appearance unannounced, maybe is one thing.
But this is a big thing, something that's going to be built up, something that they're going to
either build an arena for again in the parking lot or have something.
And it's going to be a known location.
Right now, I mean, there have been problems in the middle of the middle of the middle of the
at least forever, but there been problems the last several years with, you know, the risk of
life just flying over certain areas. But right now, Saudi Arabia themselves are engaged in it.
It's probably never been more dangerous. I shouldn't say never. In the last several years,
it hasn't been more dangerous to be in Saudi Arabia than it is right now. Well, remember out to 40 years
ago, just when we were in Dallas, I told you that among the reasons, not only,
the Texas stadium payoff and the fucking fact we never got a match with the von erics but they had announced
oh we're all going to israel you have good fucking luck have a wonderful time don't pull up no chairs
because we can't stay because we don't want to go to fucking israel i could see the because we were
the number one television program in israel and that's a shoot folks in 1985
for whatever reason world class championship wrestling
it was on the documentary.
People know I'm not making this up.
And I'm thinking, what the fucking headlines noted American tag team kidnapped by terrorists
that locked in a closet and pissed on.
Fuck you, we were going to Charlotte.
And we started in Charlotte in July and they went to Israel, I think, in September.
And that's when Mike Van Arick got hurt.
Yes.
And they also had armed people of some military description.
with machine guns in the hallway outside the guys' doors at the hotel,
just for security.
And you weren't even aware of the issue.
At that point,
I don't think you would have been the issues they had had in the WWF in that same year,
1985,
where they went over for a big Middle East tour,
and Jimmy Snooka became a major problem where you tried to kill people on the airplane.
It was just a major meltdown.
No, we had no idea that that had happened then.
That's, you know, later on when Snooka story,
began emerging. But I would just
I would just say, me and
Dennis Condry and Bobby, neither one
signed up to go to Israel
when we said we'd wrestle in Dallas.
And
I'm sure there's wonderful people
in Israel and it's a wonderful country, but
we were young
southern boys who didn't feel like going
into goddamn places that were in wars
going on with people. And that would have been
pretty much all you would have seen on TV here is
another bus blown
up today. Yes. Yes.
That's my impression of, you know, of the place at the time.
So anyway, I mean, I know they take all these guys to the beach
and show them just frolicing and having fun and the sand and the sun.
But does everybody do you think, does all the talent really want to go to do this?
They just don't want to lose their job because these people are paying the corporate overlords
hundreds of millions of dollars.
Well, at a minimum, it seems like a perfect time for any talent who is willing to go over there to say that they're not just to get more money out of it.
Because they'll cut your salary the first chance they get.
So why do you use this as a chance to hold them up for more money?
That would be my first thing.
But here's the thing.
There's two sides of the tipping point on that scale.
What if it's a guy that doesn't want to go there, but he's also like if I go say I don't want to go, they'll say good, you don't have to go anywhere.
you can go home
see that's the
that's the problem is a lot of these
I would assume
that the lower paid individuals
are also the guys that have less pull
and they're also the people that have less
incentive to go over there and risk getting blown
out of the sky or fucking
the victim of a drone attack
but what are they going to do
as again do you think it would be negative
how bad do you think the negative publicity
against WWE and TKO would be
and Ari Emanuel's memoir is about to come out,
so he's doing a lot of media.
If they suspended or fined or fired,
and it would get out right away,
any wrestlers who had a problem with Saudi Arabia
are going over there right now.
Well, they might not suspend or fire them.
They might just say, well, all right, fuck you.
You're going to go in a coma on TV,
except you're going to get your minimum
and we're going to beat you like a drum
if we use you at all.
Somebody else can, can, the understudy can play your part.
And I got a quote here. I'm just trying to see where is this exactly from.
I guess it's from Zoe Stark, the former Zoe Stark. She's Zoe Serrano on Twitter,
and she's answering fan questions, it appears. She was asked about how much she was paid.
Listen to this quote. I've wrestled for a long time, guys, 14 years this year.
Started off in the Indies, and I got signed to WWE.
back on the Indies while I'm signed at T&A
The least I have ever gotten paid
Zero
Was paid absolutely nothing
In fact I got a handshake and a hot dog
A lot of the times they didn't even give me the hot dog
Just a handshake
The most I have ever made
It was in Saudi Arabia
Shocker, I know right
Saudi Arabia
It was me
Shana, Ria
Raquel
Fatal Fourway in Saudi Arabia
Arabia at Crown Jewel 2023.
And guys, that was hands down
the most money I have ever made.
I don't even know if I'll ever make that much again.
It was like insane.
I need a figure.
She doesn't give a figure, but it's an insane amount.
Okay, it's an insane amount to her.
I need a theory of relativity here.
I need the thermometer.
What is an insane amount of money to Zoe Stark?
Do the women get a bonus for covering up?
I would think it would work in the opposite direction, if anything.
Maybe under Vince, but I'm talking about all the women have to wear body suits in Saudi Arabia.
Is that like a bonus?
I don't know that that would be a, it would be a payoff for the show, which is a bigger grossing show than most any other show.
But I don't know if they're specifically giving a clothing bonus.
But the point is, is it 25 grand? Is it 50 grand? Is it 100 grand?
Because if you ask me, if you paid four girls in a girls' four-way,
more than 50 grand apiece, that would be insane.
Somebody needs to be committed.
A big show or not.
But I need to know what, because the definition of insane money for a payoff is different
if you're The Rock or if you're Tony Falk.
And now here's the other end of it.
What happens if WWE says we can't do this or we won't do this, but it'll probably be we can't?
It'll probably, you know, I mean, if anything, they could use the government warning as a shield in some sense.
But then what happens?
What happens in terms of the shows?
I think there's something contractually where they can make up dates if they have to lose it.
But again, they got WrestleMania around the corner and the Saudi Arabian royal family are paying
I mean, tens of millions, if not over that now that they got WrestleMania a year for these shows,
what happens if WWE just doesn't do it?
Which I can't imagine.
I can't imagine they're not going to do the show, to be honest with you right now, because of money on the table.
Well, yeah.
And again, because they think that, well, you don't hear about Desari Emmanuel or Nick Con.
I get Nick Con might even go to these shows, or do you think he does?
Does he?
What do you think?
He seems to be in a lot of these shows.
Well, son of a bitch, if he's going,
then I guess he's crazy too.
But, you know,
they're sending people into a controversial atmosphere
is all I wouldn't want to do.
When I got in the business,
you know what the best part about it was?
I knew for a fact
that if I lived in Nashville,
I was going to work Nashville 52 times a year,
Louisville 52 times a year,
Memphis 52 times a year
Lexington 12 times a year
Jackson Tennessee 12 times a year
and about 125 spot shows
and none of them would be farther
than 300 miles from my home
what you didn't want to be booked in Beirut
no I didn't want to be booked in
Beirut or even fucking
crotch rot I just wanted to be right
in the territory there
no if this had happened
if this had been happening or was a practice
when I started watching wrestling,
well, if it was this kind of wrestling,
I wouldn't have watched it very long,
but if it was the same kind of wrestling,
but you had to fucking travel from coast to coast
and continent to continent every week just to do it,
I would have stayed a viewer.
It was just ridiculous.
But I think the young people like it.
That's why I was never young.
I'm just telling, I don't know
I had some of the kids in
OBW tell me one time
oh we'll move on to the next topic after I say
this but they oh yeah
I got booked on a
week's long tour a week long tour
of Australia
I said wow who did that
oh so and so or such such
it was a good money
I got $700
you got $700
to go to fucking Australia
for a week
and work four or five shows
and yeah but they paid for the plane ticket and the hotel and I got to see Australia.
Oh, fuck.
A trip around the world used to cost less back in my day,
but it wasn't a fucking deal you got into wrestling business.
That you tried to hold out for some money for.
Would you go to Australia for a week for $700?
To work?
Yes.
That's what this situation was.
I would never.
Well, I have heard, Brian, somebody has told me it's apparently made the news that there was more than $700 involved.
There's been another one of these fraudulent identity theft.
What is the catfishing operation where some innocent imbecile has been parted from a significant portion of their money.
by somebody that they thought was a famous person,
and in this case, it was Ria Ripley.
This is what I'm hearing.
Do you have details on this?
I believe you said there was some type of article.
There's some stuff out there, not too much in the details, but a general idea.
I have an article here from ABC 27, Pennsylvania News.
Scammer impersonating WWE superstar steals 42.
thousand from Pennsylvania
Man by Jared Weaver
Armstrong County, Pennsylvania.
A scammer...
Wait a minute.
Automatically, I'm smelling
possibly a rural area
when they have to identify
the county instead of the actual town.
This is Armstrong County, Pennsylvania.
Was this guy some kind of fucking
sheep farmer that lives way out in the hinterlands
or whatever? Yeah, he's over there.
in the other county.
A scammer impersonating a WWE superstar was able to steal tens of thousands of dollars
from a Pennsylvania man, state police said Monday.
The scammer made themselves seem like they were a professional wrestler to steal $42,700 in March
from the 64-year-old man.
You were 64 in March.
From the 64-year-old man who lives in North Buffalo's
township, Armstrong County, according to Pennsylvania State Police.
So now that's even worse when you have to, when you give the name of the town and still
have to identify what county it's in.
North Buffalo Township, which implies that there is a South Buffalo Township or just a
regular Buffalo Township.
The wrestler, the scammer impersonated, was Ria Ripley, State Police said.
No arrests have been.
announced since Thursday
and Trooper said that the victim does not want
to cooperate.
Ripley was...
Well, then how the fuck did they find out about it?
Ripley was recently...
No, think about it. How did they... If he doesn't want to cooperate,
what did he go and tell the police, hey,
somebody just fucked me out of 42 grand, but I don't want to do anything
about it, so don't fucking bug me about it, but I'm telling you...
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how... It says here, Ripley
was recently stripped of the WWE
Women's Champion title,
and she has reportedly been recovering
from a torn meniscus in her right knee.
She last competed in May.
The Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office website
provides tips on how not to fall for scams
and lists what red flags to look out for
by getting a DM from Rea Ripley.
Like having to pay an unusual method,
in an unusual method,
being told about having to do it in secret,
and to look out for any suspicious links.
Man, this is how do these warnings?
This is exactly what Layla Gray told me was going to happen when she was
DMing me last night and asking for my friend.
No, uh, well, what do you think about this?
How do these, how do these helpful hints need to be made?
Now, I know there's, here's the thing, I know there's some really created.
scammers out there that prey on senior citizens where it's like the IRS or it's the local
police authority of some you're in some kind of trouble or you know your shit's about to get
repossessed or do this now there's a sense of urgency about your well-being or maybe they
even now are apparently impersonating people's family members it.
if they can get, you know, information and so-and-so needs you to wire money or whatever.
I can understand, kind of, if it's an old person, not aware of how a lot of this stuff works,
possibly more trusting or even confused, scared under those circumstances.
Because something bad's going to happen to them, the FBI, the IRS, the CIA, the goddamn sheriff's office, whatever.
but how in the fuck
does anybody
convince a grown adult
who is able to live on their own
without supervision
that they are not only a celebrity
talking to them specifically
despite never having met or been introduced
or having any common friends
but a celebrity that needs money
unless the celebrity
came
to the house in person to perform
a mutually agreed upon service
for that fucking money
and it better take quite a while
several weeks to perform that much service
for that money.
How the fuck do you convince anybody
I'm a celebrity?
You've never seen me or talked to me before
but I'm typing you now.
Send me $42,000.
I don't know.
Now, I do have another article
here. Although this at times, the reputation is a disreputable site, I'll go to this article from
ringside news. W.W.E. Fan comes forward claiming Liv Morgan impersonators took him for $35,500.
Let me go down here a little bit. Is that a business net? Live Morgan impersonators? Is that like the
Elvis impersonators? This wasn't just somebody stealing a profile picture in
sending one dumb message.
The man says he was pulled into a three-year mess involving multiple accounts,
phone numbers, payment demands, fake promises, supposed meet and greets,
tickets, and merchandise that never showed up.
For three years?
For me, here's a quote, I lost over $35,000, $35,500.
And I haven't received no tickets, no money.
merchandise, no nothing.
And he didn't come to us empty-handed.
He provided ringside news with screenshots showing a wire account using the name
Liv and the handle at Live Morgan 209,
along with messages from people claiming he had been selected for private access to Morgan.
One message congratulated him on supposedly landing a private meet-and-greet.
The same conversation told him,
What is this, is this private access?
Does he get to go in through the back door, is what you're saying?
The same conversation told him he needed to pay $1,500 to lock the supposed meeting down.
Here's a quote from that message.
Congratulations.
You have been chosen for a private meet-and-grit session with our client.
Yes, it is official.
To finalize your booking, $1,500 fee is required.
Let us know how you want to make your payment.
That wasn't the end of it.
In another WhatsApp exchange, sent directly to Ringside News,
the person on the other end leaned hard into romance,
calling him baby and my love,
while repeatedly pushing him to go to a store and get a card.
One message didn't bother dressing it up.
Here's a quote,
make sure you went to the store in the morning and get the card.
I don't know what that's a payment card or what that is.
Yeah, we are one of those prepaid card things that, yeah.
Here's another quote from the man.
They've been working on me for about three years.
It's definitely multiple people in different countries, also some with America.
Not some in America, some with America.
They've been hired by the firm.
Yeah, they've been with the firm for over 10 years now.
Well, again, it goes on from here, but it sounds.
It sounds like they seek out the best and brightest on social media who appear to be in good relationships and not having any companionship issues and go to them.
Or maybe it's the opposite where they find lonely people online who unfortunately grasp on these dreams of theirs that are all bullshit and people take advantage of them.
It's horrible.
This is like, you know, the GWF all over again.
Well, but, you know, at some point, once again, unless someone is.
assigned a caretaker by the state government.
They ought to be able to
fucking cut this off for it,
it goes this far. Shut that shit down is what I'm saying
before it gets that far. But
the guys say he got no meet and greet. He got no
tickets. He got no nothing. Yeah, no, he did
get something. He got bupkus.
And bupkis is a lot of nothing
and that's what you get from me.
Bupkis. All right.
They just, how would you have reacted? How would you
have reacted when you were a teenager? There was no
internet, but if you one day went to the PO box and you got a letter and it said, you know,
save me, I need $2,000, sign Joyce Grable.
Hi, Jim.
I know we haven't met, but I'd like to meet you.
Send me $1,500 to mule away.
No, I met Joyce Grable by the time I was at home.
So, uh, but no, no, no.
No. I just, I don't, I don't get that because I knew that I was nobody,
that anybody would reasonably want to borrow money from me or that a celebrity is what I'm
saying, would want to borrow money from me, maybe some schmucked down the street,
but not a celebrity who would be contacting me and definitely not speaking of me in a romantic
fashion if we've never fucking met.
Oh, come on.
Have you got some DMs from Ria Ripley tomorrow saying, hey, Jim, I really love you.
Can you send me some money?
You wouldn't be sending her some money?
No, because that ain't going to happen.
Because I talk to the real Ria Ripley on the phone every goddamn week, and she only wanted 20 grand.
And she, you know, she drops the Australian accent, though, when she's not on TV.
She sounds like she's from Hoboken.
Hoboken.
I don't know if that's the real Rio Ripley, Jim.
Oh, come on.
We've just found out that the fake Rio Ripley's are fucking this other 64-year-old guy out of money.
Not me.
I got the real one fucking me out of money.
Hoboken.
It's a thing.
It's focus and concentration, Brian.
That's what a lot of people are not paying attention to where they're,
that's why these people on their cell phones fall into water fountains at the mall.
Because they're not focused.
Right.
they're not tuned into their surroundings or the world around them and that's what they ought to be doing you know a lot of people they try to focus with the caffeine or the nicotine and that's no good for you we've established that every doctor says that the nicotine is no good for you it clogs up your your passages your veins and your arteries and the caffeine well that'll as we've said before the scientist you've seen the footage on
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And vitamin B6 and B12, the B12 is there because if the B6 doesn't work, well, you're twice as safe.
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All righty, Brian, I guess we had to focus in
and concentrate on the world of AEW
because Lord knows focusing and concentrating
is not necessarily what Tony's doing these days.
The show is now literally,
just all multiple man matches
where he just teams people up
at various combinations against other people
in various combinations because
that way they can do more tricks.
And go forever.
And go forever.
And or in some cases try to cover up
the
an eight man tag match is like one of those
cholesterol medications.
as my doctor
he said it covers up a lot of sins
they put
Stephen Borden
Stephen
did you hear Tony Chavani the other week
he went it's Stephen
like he used to go
it's sting
it's Claude
I don't know what the fight it's Percy
Can't they do a good hospitalization angle or something
with Chavani at this point
Oh, he's awful.
I'm not sure it would be an angle.
If he'd try to take a bump at his age, he'd turn to powder.
All right.
I'm all for it.
They were in Norfolk, Virginia.
So it was a place that would be sympathetic to, nostalgic for it, offspring of the fruit of the fruit of stings, loins, as Dusty would have said.
But as an eight-man tag, Edge and Christian K.
and Darby Allen and Stephen
against FTR and Kevin Knight and Kyle.
And again, it's another eight-man tag team match
with unaffiliated heel groups with different managers
teaming together to face a couple of baby-face teams.
And obviously, the only focus,
but probably the main focus of this,
was to expose Stephen Borden,
and get him, you know, over as best they could.
But, God, it, again, he's got so many positives,
but he doesn't need to be on national TV making mistakes.
Even with Dax was in there most of,
a lot of this eight-man tag match was just the other guys
taking bumps to the floor and lay in there watching
so that Dax could work with Stephen.
and, you know,
and do the stuff they're doing in training.
Yeah, it was the guys who helped train him in this match.
Yes, and I'm not saying this in a derogatory fashion.
That's what you do on the church gym show
or the fucking county fair or whatever.
You don't do it on national TV.
Again, it's not fair to Stephen.
And the only question I still have is what he has been doing.
as a profession for a living whatever
until he's 34 that he can just
quit and say,
fuck it, I'm going to wrestle.
Even if he has got a guy
giving him a contract now for a lot of money,
he's 34.
I don't think he's going to retire on this particular thing.
Apparently he was hanging on the rafters,
just waiting for the right moment.
But I'm serious because people wrote in
when we talked about it last time.
and said, oh, they say he didn't really get the wrestling bug
until he participated in Sting's retirement.
Well, fuck, then I've just got to wonder
what kind of responsible adult has he been
that his father was a famous actor,
but he never even thought about trying to do a TV commercial
until he was in his mid-30s,
and went to the set with his dad.
Does that then sound like a responsible career choice?
Well, I guess it just sounds better than he decided to become a wrestler
when he was unemployed.
I don't know, but we don't know what he was.
That's what I'm saying.
I need more information.
But it's ridiculous to think he dropped anything for this right now.
Yes, and then they can't come out and say,
well, you may be wondering why he waited at Lee was 30 fucking four years
because he doesn't look at, but he is.
Does he need face paint?
Does he need face paint?
They needed a more well-thought-out way to, for the first two years of Steve Borden,
Sting's career of how not, and not saying that you couldn't change anything based on circumstances.
But we're going to fucking keep this as.
quiet as we can and let him work on under a hood and some shows in a carolina that nobody knows
happen that dax could easily get hooked up and cash and then we'll you know we'll let him do
some ring of honor house shows or whatever way to get it worth something that's not going to be
taped or broadcast but it's in front of people and then I I I I
just don't know how you obviously couldn't have debuted him with face paint because then it would
have been a complete rip-off. But they're almost twins except staying was a little shorter and a little
thicker. But if he hadn't been wearing makeup and had black hair instead of blonde at this,
or when he was young, they would look identical. So I think you would have really had to have had him
almost debut under another name
and then do the big angle
even if people knew
they'd have a bride
Christopher Jerry Lawler situation where most
everybody knew but they wouldn't admit it
but to people were waiting for them to admit it
so when they did admit it it worked
except they admitted it on somebody else's show
but
do a big reveal angle
and you know that might have but that would be a two-year progression now he's he's got a great leapfrog and a great drop kick and he can't hit a hip toss
and that's what dachs tried the spot and he's great leapfrog great drop kick fucking missed the guy's arm on the hip toss he's green and he's awkward and it's not his fault he needs more time not national TV he's got luger punches
the wet rag swing.
He needs oomfin his shoulder.
He's still feeling his way out with that.
But a lot of this was Dax and Stephen,
and then the whole bunch would get in and do some spots
so they could bring it up again and then powder out.
And the fans, a lot of times, were sitting and staring.
And then, you know, finally the baby faces win
when Stephen and Darby double team Dax, one, two, three.
But it's just a odd eight-man tag with important people in your company,
such as Kyle the second coming of goddamn Jesus in their eyes,
as well as Edge and Christian are the champions.
And I know you have to intermix him with the top talent,
but this would have been a great house show match
to get Steve to learn some things.
Did you say how long it went?
It was like 25 minutes, wasn't it?
It was very long.
I didn't time any of this because it was,
I didn't watch any of this on my birthday.
I watched this this morning.
So you're not going to get a lot of fucking detailed introspection.
But just my thoughts on, I'm interested in Sting's son.
he's got a lot of attributes and a lot of positives.
He's got a lot of negatives,
and a lot of the negatives are not his fault.
It's going to be interesting to see how,
if it took him this long to get the bug,
whether going out there and fuck it up at a 40 or 50% rate,
because you're still learning this shit,
but people are seeing it all over the world,
cures him of the bug before he gets the house.
of it.
You think they should have said he was sting, that he found the time machine.
That way you get past the name issues and you can kind of hide what he could do and not do,
put him in a body suit so no one knows, paint his face.
And now, see, if, again, if the kid had this size, looks like this, has this athleticism,
didn't do this 10 years ago and would have already had several multimillion dollar years.
I mean, maybe he is he independently wealthy?
He started a successful business.
He didn't need to do this.
And now it's a fluke.
And the joke would be on all of us.
But I believe if this kid had started this 10 years ago,
he would have got a big time contract with either of these companies by now
and have made millions of dollars to be thinking about retiring.
Right now, in this industry,
environment to learn from scratch.
He'll still make money from Tony, but I don't know
whether they'll ever be particularly a bidding war or anything.
If I could add one more thing about this match,
they did it here, they did it later on with Jericho,
and I just mentioned on the drive-through how sick of it I am,
the playing the music and then dropping the music
and purposely giving like another 30 seconds that are fans to keep singing
and it's not as loud as it used to be.
So it stands out when the music drops out,
and it feels like they're forcing this moment
as opposed to a real genuine moment happening.
But enough already.
A.W.
NW.A. It's not even just an AEW thing. Enough already.
Well, yeah. It is the singing.
And that's a good point that Uncle Dave did make
when he was talking about the folks down in Mexico
also is the people there. The fans are still
into the matches rather than a lot of times just into themselves and wanting to make noise
for the sake of it.
The fans in Mexico were still reacting to the matches and what's actually going on in
the show they came to see.
It's revolutionary, I know.
But speaking of Jericho, our friend, formerly known as Chris Jericho against Nick Wayne, boy,
Nick Wayne must have heard me call him Nick Plain.
and now you could see he they would use him
to light up a runway if the power was out at the airport.
Did you see the video game character costume he's got,
he looks like a goddamn space age Mayan
from the planet Zambodia that just landed?
Ah, a Roger Corman film.
I saw and I actually like Nick Wayne.
I think Nick Wayne's all right.
To me, he wasn't the issue with any of the issues in this match.
well but the thing is
he's another one here
I still think that apparently
Kyle
is dressing like he's a video game character
because elsewise he just came in a spaceship
is this like an earthwind and fire stage show
that's got to be a video game
or elsewise they're all aliens from outer space
and these fucking outfits
Nick has gone out and got him a costume
designer and is still the thickness of a drinking straw.
We haven't seen him in two years.
And they went a while.
And Jericho's on the, the kick, as Mama Cornett used to say,
showing that he can really elevate the young kids with these
competitive matches and put people over where necessary.
In this case, he won.
But Nick Wayne beat him up afterwards, including the fakest chair
shot ever because
Nick Wayne
just drew the chair back over
his fucking head
while Jericho was on
his knees on the mat
in front of Nick Wayne and then
Jericho looked up and saw
the chair as like how the fuck you're going
to hit me here unless you
hit me over the head
and he tried to kind of put his arms up to
cushion a blow and
then Nick Wayne tapped him on his
back from the side with the
he went up like Paul Bunyan
fucking came down like Mrs. Paul.
What do you think of Jericho in there?
Do you watch enough to see Jericho's work?
His punches in the corner?
Well, he's just more econ.
I've watched a little bit not enough to fully,
I can understand what you're saying,
not enough to fully criticize point A and point B,
but the general,
the speed of everything is slowing down,
the number of steps that he,
takes on a trip across the ring, whether it be a shootoff or a reversal, or the amount of time
or distance that he needs to travel from one place to another, everything is being very
economical because he's otherwise going to blow the fuck up, trying to keep up with this guy
that's 30 years younger than he is.
Well, the first Hurricane Rono off the top rope that he did, it looked like he landed on his
head, and then he went to the other side and did it again.
maybe at 55 or years old or whatever the fuck it is that we determined he is,
that he doesn't need to be flipping, tumbling over and revolutions through the air anymore.
But now he's some way or another.
It did not come to fruition that he could return to the WWE to a couple pay-per-view matches,
go in a Hall of Fame and get a hell of a merchandise contract,
and instead he went to his fallback plan
and he's signed comfortably with Tony,
but now he's got to fucking wrestle.
And now he's got to do shit to justify why he's wrestling.
So therefore he is doing these things
that often allegedly, sometimes inadvertently elevate the young talent.
And that's what we're doing right there.
That's right.
He did wonders for Big Bill.
well but now to be fair merlin the magician would have had issues do anything with big billy cass big cassie bill what about why wouldn't they call him big billy cass anyway the nine o'clock hour nine o'clock hour the big headline matchup a six man tag brodie king and bandito and hangnail page against pockets roderick strong
and Kyle O'Reilly.
And again, I know that three,
well, I'm about to say three baby faces.
It's a baby face six-man tag.
Brian, how long had you been watching wrestling
before you saw a six-man tag team match
between two baby-face teams?
Geez, I never thought about this before.
Uh-huh.
I don't even remember the first one.
I mean, it would have stood out,
so it must have been, I mean,
name a famous match
in a territory,
a six-man tag team match
between two teams of baby faces.
There you go.
And it has to be
between their six-man champions
and again, they've booked
Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly
who are two legitimate
athletes who could work
and have exciting matches.
They weren't going to fucking
sell multi-million
paper on pay-per-view
in the major companies, but they were
quality talent, and they booked them into
complete
obscurity and stick
them with the fucking mascot
that makes the whole thing a joke.
And henceforth, you also,
regardless what I think about bandito
and especially page,
Brody King was as a
single there for about three weeks.
I saw something. They took that
away. But they're using,
as top guys. Why are they working with this fucking idiot? It's just all comedy. And it was a long
match. And guess who won, Brian? The Baby Faces. Man, I am sick of this six-man tag division.
I hate to say it. I mean, not that I'm blaming the new level, but since they arrived,
I guess now that there's such a focus on the Trio's division, it's just been nonstop. I do not
care about this division. Orange Cassidy's been in multiple matches.
Oh, well, well, now, don't worry about the new, new day. We're going to get to them in a
second, and you won't have to worry about it. They're not going to mean anything in the next
two weeks, so we'll not have to worry about these six-mans for long.
Because I'll skip over, Tomaso, beating Joe Nobody in five seconds with a knee lift.
Tony Chivani introduced Swerve and the new, new day to come
out for a promo. Now, they're the six-man champions. Page and Bandito, and they were the six-man
champions. Correct, yes. Or are they the six-man ring of honor champions? Uh, oh. Are there still
ring-o? I forgot all about that. I may be. Because I think there's Ring of Honor. See, that's the
point, folks. But nevertheless, swerve and new, new day. Don't make it to the ring.
Ricochet and his stooges come out and attack them in the aisleway and beat the shit out of them
for a long and boring time and then when one of them fired up again they'd get him back down
again and it just went on and left all three of them laying there flat of their faces
in the middle of the ring. Kofy Kingston and Austin Creed and swerves Strickland
again, I've said this, you could use him because people have heard his name.
I don't think he's a main event talent, but you could put him in that,
especially at a free TV match, and it wouldn't be egregious.
His two stooges ain't over and go get over.
They never speak.
When they did speak, I think a time or two.
It wasn't thrilling.
They're plodding and blah.
Smaller ones got a better shot than the big one.
but they're just no
so they've taken their former
AEW world champion
and one of the highest paid guys to company
swerve Strickland
and two guys who were hotter
than they'd be
in any other situation
because they just came from the WWE
and I know he's paying him some money
at a fucking
garden gnome
and his two Samoan henchman
just left them laying.
So they got that going for them.
Now, I put it three weeks and,
because they've been here three weeks.
What did I say in six weeks?
There'll be another couple members of the roster
in three more weeks.
I don't see anything special about the new day.
Well, we'll see what happens
when they get their revenge on Rickashay
and the gates of agony.
Maybe they'll be the men to close the gates.
Well, speaking of closing the gates, they had a girls match.
So I closed the door, went in the other room.
And I came back for the main event, which I guarantee you I'm going to discuss
here in the next two to three minutes.
Because it was the plumber and Pac and Gabe Kidd who,
for all the OVW fans out there from a few years ago,
to me looks like a fleshy Adam revolver.
They wrestled Andrade Francesca Akira and Will Osprey.
Their world heavyweight champion that just won the biggest match of all time
is in a six-man tag, teamed up with a child-sized jobber who happens to be a friend of his,
and a guy that takes selfies against another endless combination of the boer horse.
and they went 15 minutes into the overrun for Moxley choked the jobber out of Francisco
and then kept beating him up and then Andre fired up and made a little comeback but
Connors and Finley who were in another heel group came in and kicked the shit out of him.
Well they were in the dogs and the dogs I guess are aligned with Gabe Kid even though Gabe
kids aligned with the death riders.
They're fucking the dogs and cats.
See, even, even, even, even, even, even if you have fucked the dogs in a wrestling match,
you can still get a job with the FBI.
And then all the heels stood there while Moxley was telling kid to put a chair on Akira's
neck and pilmanize him.
And an Osprey jumped in and gave his goofy elbow to everybody.
And they all left.
people were kind of eh.
And I don't know what to say about it except that.
It's the same shit over and over.
There's a lot of guys wrestling these matches on this show.
Every match is multi-man now and just other people running around.
Moxley did a promo earlier in the back with Gabe Kidd and Pack.
It was awful.
It was like he rehearsed something to try out for a role.
It was so bad
But I don't know
I feel like they had a lot of really good momentum
Going into the Wembley thing
And even right after it
But man
This was an unenthusiastic, uninspired show
This episode of Dynamo
Everybody on this show now
They've weeded out
Most of the professional talent
And almost everybody on this show
Is indie-minded guys
They say edge and cage
and to Jericho.
They're at the point in their career where,
say again.
Senior minded.
Well, no, they're at the point in their career
where they're getting paid a lot of fucking money
and they still get to do what they enjoy
and they put up with it.
And everybody else on this,
at least on this television show,
it came from an indie-minded fucking perspective
on things and that's exactly what we're looking at is indie fucking wrestling on national
TV well there it is another episode a bad episode of AEW Dynamite
well folks if any of you are still left out there listening to this program after we've
inundated you with this AEW nonsense Brian we're going to be back in a couple of days with
your program the drive-through and we'll be back here in another week on the Jim Coronet
experience do you have any closing thoughts or
Or in the words of the highway patrolman to Vince McMahon,
if you have no more questions, you're free to go.
We'll see on the drive-thru with lots more fun.
The drive-thru for more fun.
Fun, fun, fun.
Till...
Well, nobody can take our shit away.
We're our own daddies now.
So, thank you, fuck you, and bye-bye, everybody.
