Jim Cornette Experience - Jim Cornette Experience Special - AEW Dynamite Ratings Omnibus, Volume 2

Episode Date: December 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again, friends! And you are our friends, the great Brian last here, you there, we are back on the bus omnibus season, volume two of what was a popular omnibus, what is a popular weekly segment. As times are changing and streaming is entering the picture, Jim Cornett's AEW ratings omnibus, volume two. And of course, here's the man who breaks down these ratings each and every week,
Starting point is 00:00:27 the leader of the cult of Cornett, Mr. Jim Cornett. Well, I don't know, Brian, if you could say I break them down. I think the company itself is doing a pretty good job of breaking them down and putting the boots to them. We just report them here. And you've got every bit as much of your hand in this as I do reading these numbers such as you do. You know, you're like Van of White. You got to be able to read these numbers or else you're very integral to the show.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Did you see when they, one time they said, well, you know, Van of White was saying in her defense because everybody said she was an airheaded blonde, she said, well, I have to be able to turn the fucking letters around. I have to know what the letters are. They light up. She had to distinguish light from darkness. But she's now 65 years old or whatever. She's still out there doing that.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Usually when I think of AEW ratings, I think here's a chance to put down Van der Waite. Here's a chance to just eviscerate Vanah White. But no, this is a very integral period. You know, we've been talking about the ratings since they went on the air. But every year, every month, every week, it seems like it's gotten more and more important to focus on these things. This omnibus, number two, covers the period of May through December of 2023, our contemporaneous accounts of what was going on. and boy howdy in in hindsight this is kind of a very interesting period
Starting point is 00:01:58 because this is where in the present day they are currently on you know all kinds of antibiotics and machines because of the infections they've gotten from the self-inflicted wounds that they gave themselves in the period of May to December 2023 where Tony again proved that he couldn't figure out who to hire and who to fire and who not to fire,
Starting point is 00:02:23 and which one was which, and they've made decisions that they still are suffering from today. So we can see them now as we talked about them then, and the fact that this wasn't going to be good, and it ain't been. Well, these ratings may not be great, but we now call them the glory days of AW ratings. Let's take this look back. Volume one, of course, is already available.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Let's go to volume two. Jim Cornett's look at AEW ratings. I'm the bus volume two. All right. Now, I know the number. I've gotten a heads up on the numbers that, again, they're no better or worse than they usually are, but that people actually
Starting point is 00:03:06 wanted to see this basically two guys dropping down and taking a shit in the middle of the ring. So they did better at the end of the program. But what are the exact statistics this week? This week's AEW Dynamite, May 10th on TBS. was watched by, on average, 87,000 viewers.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And over the past several weeks, it's been 860, 830, 8.30, 860. It says, so we're in the, about in the range. Well, the show opened up, and these were compiled by WrestleManiaomics. The show opened up 8 to 8.15 p.m. segment one, Claudio Castignoli versus Ray Phoenix, with picture and picture, 866,000 viewers.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And again, We got to have somebody find out for us if the business, the Big Bang Theory business, the bottom's dropping out of it because they were always over a million at start. Now they're not even over 900 at the start. And that's the Big Bang. What they're handing off. A lot of things happening on TV right now specifically with the NBA, so that may play a part of it. But segment two, 815, 8.30 p.m., Miro backstage, the MJF video, the Meeffe
Starting point is 00:04:19 the Blackpool Combat Club and Elite video FTR, Mark Briscoe, J. Lethal, Jeff Jarrett, Sanjay Dutt, Satnam Singh's live angle and Chris Jericho and Roddy Strong's backstage angle 859,000 viewers. So they only lost 7,000. That ain't as bad as normal.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Every once in a while it's 100,000. Well, they started so much lower here, but segment 3, 830 to 845 p.m. Thunder Rosa showing up backstage, the Sammy Guevara video, Tony Kahn's backstage announcement of a future announcement, and Orange Cassidy versus Daniel Garcia, 880,000 viewers. Can you believe that? They got 21,000 back.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Actually, more than back. They didn't have them to begin with. I do believe that because I also think, unless you knew the main event was on last, and if you wanted to see it, you'd probably start tuning in closer to 9 o'clock thinking it could be then. Very true. Continue. Segment four, the continuation of Orange Cassidy versus Daniel Garcia with picture in picture, as well as an outcast and Hikaru Shita video and Christian Cage's promo, 878,000 viewers.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And they only lost two, so they're flat again. So apparently in this particular week, everybody that started out with this program said, okay, we want to watch this tonight. They've given us the pay-per-view level lineup, so we're going to stick with it. This is the least variation they've had. They've been down seven and up 14
Starting point is 00:06:09 from the start the whole fucking show through so far. Segment 5, the 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 9 15 p.m. Darby Allen's video, as well as Anna J. versus Julia Hart would picture and picture, falls count anywhere or no holds barred. I think that's what it was. Yes. 877,000 viewers. So they only lost 1,000 more.
Starting point is 00:06:34 If they didn't run them off with Anna J. and Julia Hart, they ain't going anywhere. Segment 6. 9.15 to 9.30 p.m., Orange Cassidy and the Best Friends promo, as well as the House of Black versus Bandito and the Best Friends, with picture and picture, 842,000 viewers. Ouch, okay, I'm sorry. Anna Jay and Julia Hart didn't run them off, but Pockets did. There's 35,000. They just wanted to get away from him. They promised they'd come back. Segment 7, 930 to 945 p.m. Kyle Fletcher is attacking Orange Cassidy backstage.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Jack Perry's video. Ricky Starks's video. And the beginning of Kenny Omega versus John Moxley, 880,000 viewers. And son of a bitch, they came right back as soon as they cut pockets off the screen. And finally, segment 8, 945 to 10 p.m. John Moxley versus Kenny Omega in a cage with picture and picture, as well as the post-match angle with Don Callis,
Starting point is 00:07:43 937,000 viewers. And that is amazing that they picked up another 57,000 people in the last segment that they never grow in, that they hemorrhage viewers in, and that can you remember another AEW program where the last 15 minutes was the highest rated quarter in the whole program. I don't think there's ever been one. I'm looking for it now.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I don't know about highest rated quarter, but I think the last time I remember a rise, I got a check here, may have been the Kenny Omega versus El Hijo del Vikingo match. Which again goes into something about, if Kenny Omega is the guy who at the very beginning of AEW, a lot of fans were pumped up to see, and then AEW, they made him the world champion,
Starting point is 00:08:30 but you could argue about how well he's been booked or not booked. Right. People still want to see him as a single star, I think more than they want to see every other way they've been using him. And again, there may be physical limitations because of his injuries. Well, but I think you're right, because think about it, the best of seven series where people had to watch him and the buckaroos and the six men's, they lost six figures of viewers at the end of every program. And every time he's in another one of these multi-person things with his little friends, it loses viewers. but then of course this was a cage match, but still, as a single, for whatever reason, people want to see this douchebag. So I have to admit that.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I found it right here, AEW Dynamite March 22nd. The show opened for the record 1,016,000 viewers. That was Darby and Orange Cassidy and Sting v. The But Segment 3, which was the factory video and Tony Storm versus Sky Blue was 9-11. and then it went up to 965 and 969 for the final two, which was Kenny Omega versus El Hijo do Vikingigo. So not a huge rise, but certainly over segment six, there was a rise. Boy, I tell you what, if it had been my television program,
Starting point is 00:09:47 I'd have like, Jesus Christ, almost a million people watched the last 15 minutes for the first time, and they have to see that. It was just, I don't care whether people watched it or not. It was embarrassing. And you may have liked it as a fan, but if you're in the wrestling, business. Again, I draw the analogy, does a fucking, the star of the Metropolitan Opera get offended when they hear Millie Vanilli selling records? It's the shits, it's embarrassing, and I don't know that you should want to root for people to watch this kind of stuff,
Starting point is 00:10:24 because then it makes people want to do more of this kind of shit, and then we're where we are today, because that's all they've done now for the past 20 years to do more of that shit. The problem is the Moxley stuff specifically. Tony lets him do anything he wants to do and his ideas are really, really bad. Brock Lesnar experienced that years ago. Other people in that company may have experienced that too. Moxley has bad ideas that he's convinced are really good and he wants to do him and he only wants to do him. And to me, it's just as lame as it could be.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It was just a manufactured group that he put together. He declared they were dope. They're feuding with the elite. We really don't even know why. Danielson couldn't even comprehensively explain or coherently explain why last week. We're doing this because we want to make you better. And we want people to be better. And you're amateur.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Where is this coming from? It always improved me when somebody would correct me by stabbing me in the face with a screwdriver. Not very good. But there people seem to like it. and that was A.W. Diamond. Jim, did you see the ratings for this week's show? No, I haven't. And I would, we've been on a path for the last several weeks where they are starting lower than they used to,
Starting point is 00:11:47 but they're keeping more of their audience. So they're not having the high highs or the low lows. They're kind of just in the mid-mid. Is that trend continuing this week, or are we seeing a change in pattern? Well, we'll see what you think of this. the average rating for AEW Dynamite on May 17th was 814,000 viewers. Ouch, okay, that's in the 800s that they've been doing, but the lower range of them. There was some strong competition.
Starting point is 00:12:16 The NBA playoffs were actually the finals are on TNT. Also, Vandercump Rules, which is a big hit. What the, who? Who is Vandrump? I know. Who is Vanderpump? And what are his rules? Is this a sporting show?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Is this, what is this show? about and who's this guy Vanderpump? I have no idea. Why is he made his own rules? Holy shit, you want to hear something else that's pretty funny? I'm looking at this. These were compiled about WrestleMania, by the way. Are they in the Vanderpump business, too?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Dynamite did worse than the premiere of Rich and Shame was featuring Hulk Hogan and Gawker on TNT, which had 854,000 viewers. Ooch. So they lost a Hulk Hogan on this night. And now were they opposite or it was at a different time? It says they were also outranked by the Hokogen Galkirk premiere. But that was on like 11 o'clock at night. Okay, so maybe I'm wrong there.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Maybe I'm wrong. So more people at 11 o'clock at night, if that's the case. Watch that than Dynamite. But let's go to the ratings here. See what story they tell. Segment one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. The Wardlow Christian Cage Luchosaurus promo and angle. Darby Allen and Orange Cassidy versus Big Bill
Starting point is 00:13:34 and Lee Moriarty with picture and picture 9808,000 viewers Okay and that's not that's not showing a good sign considering their average for what's going to happen from here but go ahead. Segment two, the continuation of Darby Allen and Orange Cassidy versus Big Bill and Lee Moriarty
Starting point is 00:13:55 as well as the Young Bucks Blackpool Combat Club backstage angle, and Wardlow and Arne Anderson's backstage promo. We didn't even talk about that. Well, that's where he challenged him to the latter match. Arnne said nothing of interest. As well as Sammy Guevara versus Optimus Prime, 876,000 viewers. Okay, so there went 32,000 in the first 15 minutes. Again, strong competition, of course.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Segment three. Well, what would you have to have to not, be strong competition to Big Bill and Lee Moriarty against pockets and fucking pussy as partner. I don't know who these people want. Let me stop the ratings real quick. You and I both have no awareness of this show. I see some of the names of the people on it in the New York Post every now and then, but I don't know anything about it. What do you think Vanderpump rules is? I've just told you I have no idea who this guy is or what his rules are or what his occupation is or what the whole concept of this thing's about. All right. Well, that was
Starting point is 00:14:59 the competition for this. Segment three. I thought you were going to tell me. I don't know. I'm trying to figure that. I can look that up after I get the ratings here. Well, we got to do the ratings. Segment three, 830 to 8.45 p.m. Sammy Gavarra's live promo, as well as the FTR, Jeff Jarrett, J. Leithel,
Starting point is 00:15:17 Sanjay, Dutt, Satnam Singh, Karen Jarrett, Engel, Darby Allen's promo, and the start of Ruby Soho and Tony Storm versus Akar, Rishita and Britt Baker, 832,000 viewers. Ouch, okay, now we've bled another 44,000, so that means we're down 76,000 from the start of the program. But again, Vandler Pump may have been just ruling all over the place by this point in time. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Segment 4, 845 to 9 p.m. The continuation of Soho and Storm versus Sheeta and Baker with Picture and Picture, Orange Cassidy's promo. Tony Kahn's big announcement, 762,000 viewers. Jesus, H. Christ on a cracker. So that's another 3868, 70,000 people bringing the total in the first hour. They started at 908 and ended at 762. That is a 146,000 people.
Starting point is 00:16:21 They lost in an hour. Hey, listen, that segment, I'm sorry. The women's match, Orange Cassidy, who, if you're not already an Orange Cassidy fan, you're sick of them, and Tony Conn's announcement, which, the first one, I popped a number. And since that time he's on almost every week making an announcement, that's why you have that number there for that quarter. But coming out of that, the big 9 o'clock hour, segment 5, it's got to go up. Roddy Strong versus Chris Jericho, Falls Count Anywhere, with Picture in Picture, and Adam Cole. 816,000 viewers Okay, so they got
Starting point is 00:16:59 34,000 back of the 146,000 they're down. Segment 5. No, segment 6, excuse me. Rooshe versus Jack Perry with picture and picture and the post-match angle with Sammy Gavar, Darby Allen, Preston Vance, and the assistant guy. 799,000 viewers.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Boy, they should have wished that suddenly they had a blackout on the East Coast on that segment, but they're down again another 17. Segment 7. 930 to 9.45 p.m., MJF's promo, as well as Jay White versus Ricky Starks with picture and picture, 753,000 viewers. Jesus. So that's another 40,000. I got to work on my math.
Starting point is 00:17:54 46,000 they've lost. So, good Lord. Again, now they're in the worst spot they've been. They're down 155,000 people from the start of the program. And finally, segment 8, 9.45 to 10 p.m. The continuation of Jay White versus Ricky Starks, Don Callis's live promo, and the angle with the elite and Blackpool Combat Club
Starting point is 00:18:20 and the return of Hangman Adam Page, 769,000 viewers. So 16,000 back at the end. So they started at 908 and finished at 769. That's a total attrition from start to finish of a hundred and 309,000 people. Can I say something? For everyone, I want to get your opinion on this.
Starting point is 00:18:46 For everyone who's talking about the strong competition. And again, not to take anything away from the NBA final. or whatever's happening in the world of Vanderpump. But they did a big angle last week. They did a pretty big angle. We're going to finally get some answers we would think from Don Callis here after that big angle last week. They couldn't pop anything for that?
Starting point is 00:19:08 They couldn't get someone who just wanted to see some resolution. Well, I think it's how hard do you need to make somebody to work to get there after what they had previously seen? They're like, well, you know, I don't care as much. much as I did at the start of this thing. They're going to sit around and just wait through this? Is the idea that wrestling can never beat or never do a better number on a night where there's an NBA finals or a Vanderpump?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Or if it was something the audience was really captivated with, would they say, you know what, I've got to tune out and check out that other thing for 15 minutes? That's the thing. There was no audience that was like, I've got to hear what Don Callis says after that turn. I don't, you know, again, from years back, the wrestling fans watched the wrestling program if there was goddamn chaos going on outside their home and fires in the streets.
Starting point is 00:20:04 They didn't miss the wrestling show because they wanted to see it. They had to see it. And that's not the case anymore because it all looks the same. And if you didn't see somebody drawn and quartered and eviscerated and they're fat sold for soap in Seg 6, you'll see it again in Seg 9
Starting point is 00:20:24 or next week, they'll do it again. So I think we've just, you know, now that nobody's really the people that are there for anything are paying the close attention and everybody else is like, what the fuck's going on here? No, no, but again, that's, you know, when you make something so forgettable
Starting point is 00:20:47 and disposable, people don't care that much anymore. Well, that was dynamite, and I don't care that much anymore. Speaking of not caring, would you like to move on across the street to Smackdown? No, I really wouldn't. Can we talk about more animal deaths or something? So the question is, how many people ignored this television program last Wednesday night? Let me pull that up right here.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I have some ratings information. This was compiled by WrestleMania. the 24th of May was watched on TBS by 846,000 viewers on average. Do you have the last several weeks? I would have to pull them up.
Starting point is 00:21:32 You'd have to give me a couple minutes, yeah. Well, we'll go through this, but it doesn't even need to be read because it can be said. Over the last six weeks, they've not had, they've had five of them that were somewhere between the 820 and 860 range,
Starting point is 00:21:49 and then they had the one, 900 outlier but they are they're spinning in the same place there's not any more wide variations they don't have big shows that
Starting point is 00:22:04 do over a million anymore and then it settles down like they were for a while and they don't have honestly they don't have the big numbers to start with that they used to but they start and finish somewhere within a range
Starting point is 00:22:20 of the same thing every fucking week. I have the numbers here. Here's February. 901, 899, 827, 1,00028,000. Here's March. 833, 858, 852, 954, 833. Here's April. 877, 866, 836, 830,
Starting point is 00:22:50 863, and finally May, which we're in the middle of, or towards the end of, 776, 877, 814, and now 846. Okay, so, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, in the last 13 weeks since they popped that 1 million, whatever, at the end of February, they've had one audience in the 900s and one in the 700s and everything else has been in the middle of 800. That's pretty flat. Go ahead. Well, this episode, May 24th, the first segment, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Orange Cassidy versus Kyle Fletcher with picture and picture, 9606,000 viewers. All right, that's what they start with from the Big Bang.
Starting point is 00:23:47 And how many of those people were around for the last five minutes of that fucking fiasco, 15 minutes later? Well, again, after the Big Bang, it took a while for the planets to end up where they were going to end up and things to start to grow. But segment 2, 815-8.30 p.m., the continuation of Pockets versus Kyle Fletcher, Ricky Starks's backstage promo, Jungle Boys promo, and the FTR, Mark Briscoe, Jarrett, and Friends live promo segment. 923,000 viewers. What? How did they manage to pick up 17,000 people for that 15 minutes of DREC?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Was it the announcement? Are they tuning in to hear the announcement? No way. Well, I shouldn't comment on anything else recording the ratings, but segment three, 830 to 845 p.m. The Sammy Gavarro promo, the House of Black versus AR5, Metallique, Metalique, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:24:48 and Blake Christian, with picture and picture, 919,000 viewers. Okay, so they're back down four, but they're 13,000 ahead of the first quarter hour, which they never do, and this is telling me that we are soon to find the precipice
Starting point is 00:25:08 off of which the lemmings are about to drop. Segment four. The Blackpool Combat Club promo, MJF and Darby Allen's live in-ring confrontation and then the promo, excuse me, the angle after that, 873,000 viewers. Okay, so unfortunately, because of, I think they mistimed it. I think that was supposed to be up at 9 o'clock and it was up at 8.52 or whatever, the four pillars. But they've dropped 246,000 people.
Starting point is 00:25:42 the 9 o'clock hour segment 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The Wardlow video, Taya Valkyrie versus Lady Frost. Oh boy, here it comes. And Tony Kahn's big announcement, 847,000 viewers. Okay, so they lost 26,000 from the last quarter of the first hour, but they got the announcement. and if that is indeed what was keeping people through the rest of this crummy fucking program, now that, or through the first part of this crummy program, now that the announcement has been done,
Starting point is 00:26:23 is this where gravity takes over? Segment 5, 915 to 9.30 p.m. The Adam Page promo, the Adam Cole, Chris Jericho contract signing, and a Tony Storm video, 846,000 viewers. They lost 1,000. Oh, where the... Where the fuck are these people going to go?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Where is this average going to go? Segment 7. 930 to 945 PM. Daniel Garcia versus Roger Strung with picture and picture. 733,000 viewers. That's okay. But wait a minute. That was the only thing listed for that quarter. That didn't go 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:27:07 that's the only thing listed here for this quarter with picture and picture good lord it didn't seem like that but well the final quarter so well wait a minute so the point is there went a hundred and thirteen thousand people and i've got to think the eight forty six in seg six after the announcement is people were waiting around there's going to be something else said right one would think what about punk are we going to get a card anything else and then they got tired of it. Also, you realize there's not a mention of punk, and then after that Jericho segment,
Starting point is 00:27:42 if you sat through that and you saw Saboo, the next thing you see is Garcia just wandering around ringside waiting for his match. It was kind of awkward. Everyone else left. But the final segment, segment 8, 945 to 10 p.m.
Starting point is 00:27:57 The Lucha Brothers versus Claudio Castagnoli and Will Aruta and the post-match angle with the Blackpool Combat Club and the Young Bucks. 718,000 viewers. Good Lord. Okay, so they kept everything. I mean, you can't argue with the first hour at all.
Starting point is 00:28:19 906, 923, 919, and 873. But then they got their announcement, 847, 846, 733, and 718. They end up 180, what is that, 8,000 people down from the start, which is over 20% of the fucking starting audience in two hours. Now that Tony has CM Punk back in the fold, but seeing how these ratings are playing out, do you think Tony should sign Vanderpump to go against CM Punk?
Starting point is 00:28:52 If we could just figure out who this fucking Vanderpump guy is and what his finish is, it would be great because I still don't know. But what were the ratings on this fiasco? Let me get comfortable four hours. I hear these things. I'm stretching my hip out. What the hell do you do?
Starting point is 00:29:12 I'm stretching. Okay, I'm getting comfortable. All right, what's the story? The story this week, May 31st, AEW Dynamite on TBS, was 923,000 viewers. Oh, now, what was different about this program as opposed to the ones that have been getting 800-something thousand? it wasn't certainly
Starting point is 00:29:35 any better in quality one must think that something was teased a possible carrot was dangled on the proverbial stick as to people might hear something that they wanted to hear well we'll see how the ratings play out but the show opens segment 1, 8 to 8 15 p.m.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Claudio Castignolli John Moxley and Wheeler Yuta versus Bandito and the Lucha brothers with picture... And a two-minute suplex. With picture picture, 1,040,000 viewers. Oh, now that's the first time in quite a while that they have started at their previous
Starting point is 00:30:14 over million level since we began to question the popularity of the Big Bang theory. So that's a good start. Segment 2, 815-830 p.m. The continuation of the previous match. The Young Bucks Adam Page and the Dork Order Backson. stage, the Juice Robinson J. White FTR Ricky Stark's Live promo, 999,000 viewers. Okay, so apparently 41,000 of those were just the people that tripped getting up to change after the Big Bang went off. Segment three, Tony Con announces CM Punk's return, along with Tremperetta versus Big Bill versus
Starting point is 00:30:58 versus Swir Strickland. I can't say it. without it being funny. I know even if fuck's sake, even if he's good, if he's the shits, you know, he's working hard.
Starting point is 00:31:12 He's, whatever the fuck. Give him a last name at Lee. Big Bill Dromo for fuck sake, Jr. I don't care, but just Big Bill is the most nondescript, generic,
Starting point is 00:31:24 bland, great value, as they say, how is you, how are you going to market that? There's Big Bill. All right, go ahead. Versus Swir Strickland, with picture and picture, 991,000 viewers.
Starting point is 00:31:41 So, again, they only lost 8,000. That was the announcement was in that quarter hour that they wanted to hear. But where do they go from here now that all the children have grown up? And how do we face our lives, knowing nobody gives us a chance? We go to segment four. a 45 to 9 p.m. The Chris Statlander promo video. The Acclaims promo on the ramp.
Starting point is 00:32:08 As well as Don Callis and Takesha's live promo. 9606,000 viewers. Ooh, okay. Many people apparently have heard what they wanted to hear. That's a drop of 85,000 more. So we are now down 134,000 since the start of the episode. And by the way, I should say these were compiled by Wesselnomics. Oh, that's right. We've got to give credit where credits do. Thurston Howell the third is on top of all of the wrestling business in the various companies these days, all the statistics, the things that people need to know.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Well, let's go to segment five here, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. Darby Allen and Orange Cassidy versus the Gates of Agony with picture and picture, as well as the postmatch would sting, Brian Cage, and Swirrard. 888,000 viewers. Ooh, okay, so we've dropped another 18,000. Segment 6, 915 and 9.30 p.m. The MJF video, Hook, Preston Vance, and Dralisto, do we know him? That was the guy in the Lucha mask.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Well, him, as well as Jungle Boy. And a suit. Apparently now, the lucha suits over in the WW aren't using the gimmick anymore, so now all the lucha guys in the AEW are wearing the suits. Well, that segment, as well as the Outcast Backstage Promo and Chris Statlander versus Nila Rose, 866,000 viewers. There went another 22,000. Segment 7, 930 to 945 p.m.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Chris Statlander versus Naila Rose continued with picture and picture and a recap video, I believe of the pay-per-view, 854,000 viewers. So we've got down now to about where they have been over the last, what, several weeks or however many weeks, where we said this is about the number of people that are going to watch 8, 8, 850, somewhere around there. And finally, segment 8, the main event, 9.45 to 10 p.m. Adam Cole and Britt Baker versus Chris Jericho and Soraya
Starting point is 00:34:29 Now I thought that might have some interest Maybe more interest than the Falls Count anywhere single match Between Cole and Jericho would have had Because at least it's different Instead of something You know is going to look like the same thing They always do with everybody
Starting point is 00:34:44 Did anybody tune in To see that on free television After they shot the angle on pay-per-view? With picture and picture 839,000 viewers. And the answer is no. They've turned 15,000 away and not in a good way of a sold-out arena.
Starting point is 00:35:04 But like, no, we turn away when we see that. Okay. So that's what happened. A bunch of people tuned in to have their question answered. That was the one thing that they were up in the air about over the last week was, is punk going to be part of collision or not?
Starting point is 00:35:23 They start with a million 40,000, and by the announcement they had only lost 49,000 of those people, and most of them, as we said, probably the big bangers. After the announcement, they lost another 152,000 people to finish up starting 201,000 down from where they began. considering the mixed reaction to CM Punk I thought the audience would have been like okay we heard the news we want we don't need to watch anymore do you think any of the audience said we heard the news we didn't want to hear
Starting point is 00:36:04 we don't want to watch anymore well no because why would you not want to watch the rest of the program that you know that he's not on because they announced he'll be on a program that you just keep watching Wednesday if you don't want to see Saturday But it did satisfy the curiosity of a lot of the people,
Starting point is 00:36:25 but then there was nothing else to hang around for, because look at the state of all that. So, you know, again, they only lost a certain amount until the announcement and 991,000, and then they lost another 160,000 off of that. That's not AEW's faithful fans tuning out. that's people said, okay, is he coming back? Okay, he's coming back. Well, we'll come back when he comes back.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And or they just didn't give a shit about the rest of the program. Well, I think that's part of the problem. That's part of it too. There's a lot of people on this show that have been on this show a lot, and they're not doing anything special. We've talked about the Orange Cassidy issues where he started off so many shows. Here he is at the 9 o'clock hour didn't hold anyone from the announcement. They still kept leaving.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You had some women segments. Statlander hasn't been around in a while. Niall Rose hasn't been around in a while. No one gives a crap about the outcast and Britt Baker stuff. MJF, it was a throwaway, not throwaway, but it was a backstage promo segment as opposed to anything live. They front-loaded the top of the show with BCC, the Elite, Tony Kahn's announcement. Even if you're a hardcore AEW fan, what's the motivation to stay around?
Starting point is 00:37:38 To see that Jericho match? So what you're saying is, they didn't hold the viewers. The viewers held their noses and turned away. I think they risk people getting sick of a lot of people they've been using regularly because of how they've been used and also just because they've been used regularly forever. Well, but see, here's the problem. Somebody with the attention span of Tony and or his ilk over there will take that statement and go, okay, that means we should only put somebody on TV once every six weeks. They can't. Nobody can find the fucking middle ground.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Between light and shadow or science and superstition, you get your top guys, your top guys you push, you hear from them or see them, or refer to them, or show video of them every week. And they're winning a lot more than they're losing. And then when you've,
Starting point is 00:38:38 he has talent, he has roster depth, if not talent depth. So then the fucking peons that he thinks are cute that nobody really wants to fucking look at and they just look past those are the ones that should be seen
Starting point is 00:38:57 sparingly and heard even less but those are the ones that he is continually whether it be the mascot or the ridiculous the green girls they're all in green how apropos or just anybody that he has done to death over the last few years
Starting point is 00:39:17 because he gets it in his bonnet, that's what people get sick and tired of, and it looks all the same, and especially the chaos in the matches, because there's nobody to oversee the matches with not only the knowledge, but the authority. So that's the problem. You want your top guys on TV every week.
Starting point is 00:39:40 You just want to make sure that you pick the right top guys. Hey, another note here. This was Dynamite's highest total, viewership since March 22nd, however, down 11% in 18 to 49. Whatever that says. I don't even care. You know, what's done is done and the network wanted what they wanted. But how beneficial do you think it would have been to AEW for collision to be a one-hour show as opposed to a two-hour show? It would have probably been easier to start off with and make the, you know, by popular demand announcement months later or however long,
Starting point is 00:40:16 later because that way they wouldn't have to again he's got a plethora of people but not deep on real talent that can draw a mainstream television audience past the the bubblishest audience they got that doesn't grow because it's
Starting point is 00:40:37 eh and you know again the mixed reaction in San Diego that was California it'd be overwhelmingly positive in Chicago it would be probably six one, half dozen the other in a number of markets. It's going to vary across the country, depending on the fan base, because every AEW fan from every state and the union is not the same. But again, they're carving up a small pie. They're turning parts of their audience against parts of their roster.
Starting point is 00:41:13 They're putting different talent. so as we are led to believe, at least in some part, on their Wednesday night and Saturday night TV shows, not because of a business strategy, but because of fucking, so they're diluting the talent roster. They're diluting the fact that AEW is now on one of those networks, five hours a week counting rampage that nobody watches.
Starting point is 00:41:42 It's all getting Not only the fan base is getting watered down and over-exposed, but the talent roster and the television time and everything else. And since all their shit looks the same anyway because all of these fresh-faced, perky young talents were raised on the outlaw mud shows, how were they going to make it look different
Starting point is 00:42:09 besides punk's segment? what's going to fucking be different about Saturday than Wednesday and if Saturday don't look any different than Wednesday for the people to watch both they'll get tired of Wednesday because they're seeing twice as much of it so Brian I'm going to be a prognosticator I'm going to turn into Nostra dumbass here for once because I don't know what the numbers were but I'm betting
Starting point is 00:42:35 that it was worse than last week but better than the week before In other words, about the same thing as they've been doing. Well, Jim, the ratings for AEW Dynamite on TBS, June 7th, a Wednesday, as always, 903,000 viewers, on average. So that was a little down from last week and a little up from the week before, about what they've been doing. Well, the show opened, quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Orange Cassidy versus Swerve Strickland with pictures.
Starting point is 00:43:10 and picture 962,000 viewers. The big bangers must love old pockets by now. But now, the debate here is going to be, as usual, where do they fall off the cliff? For an average of 903 to start out at 962, looks to me like they're going to be strong for the first part of the program
Starting point is 00:43:35 before they hit the fucking bottomless pit. Go ahead. 2, 8.15, 8.30 p.m. The final four minutes of Cassidy v. Strickland. The postmatch with the Mughal Embassy, Darby Allen and Sting. The Mughal Embassy is what we're calling it now? Well, that's what Resslemics called it. This data was pulled by Ressleomics here.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Did Lovie do this one, or is Thurston HAL off for vacation this week? There was a J. White video as well as a Brian Danielson, Kazushka Okada video, 924. thousand viewers. So, pockets only drove 38,000 off this week. Segment three, 830 to 8.45 p.m., chaos versus Blackpool Combat Club with picture and picture chaos, the best friends and their other friend. Is that what they call them now? Well, the Japanese faction with Rocky Romero is chaos.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Oh, I thought, I thought he became a, best friend when he was with the other two. Isn't it two out of three rules? It's two best friends and one chaotic guy. If you're in a group called chaos, do you feel like a moron if you're wrestling the Blackpool Combat Club? We're chaos.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Look at these fucking guys. Well, what did, uh, so basically what did best chaos and the other guys do here? Well, also the, uh, humbucks promo backstage, 895,000 viewers. Okay, so they're dueling, let's see, 24 and 520. They only drove off 29,000, so they're not as good as pockets. Segment 4, 845 to 9 p.m., the Kenny Omega Will Osprey video,
Starting point is 00:45:27 MJF and Adam Cole's live confrontation in ring, 955,000 viewers. Wow. So... We have not seen a bump like that in a while. Yeah, that's... unusual, and that's the 845 to 9 p.m. So they apparently wanted to see MJF and Adam Cole talk, because that was, what, 12 out of this 15 minutes? That is, they're up 60,000 from the previous
Starting point is 00:45:56 quarter. Have you been watching the first? And they overlapped into five at the top of the hour, so we'll see what that is. Go ahead. I'm sorry. And if you've been watching the first 45 to 50 minutes, MJF is a breath of fresh air at this point on this program. Yeah. There must be some kind of concerted effort for people to text their friends or whatever. He's on. We're back on. Well, segment... Well, segment five, the big nine o'clock hour,
Starting point is 00:46:20 9 to 9.15 p.m., the final two minutes of the MJF. Coal Live promo, as well as the Hardee's, Isaiah Cassidy, and Ethan Page's backstage comedy promo, and La Faxion ignobor... Yeah. In Gobernalis,
Starting point is 00:46:40 The Goobers! The Goobers! Let's just shorten it. The Goobers. What did the Goobers do? Well, the faction of Goobers versus Jungle Hook with picture and picture, 929,000 viewers. So... The Goobers.
Starting point is 00:46:57 One can assume... One can assume that nobody turned off the last three or four minutes or whatever it was of Adam Cole and MJF so we can give the other guy's credit for running... off 26,000 people. You know what? Even though I wasn't crazy about the entirety of the Adam Cole, MJF promo. You at least wanted to see where it was going. You wanted to see where it's going and you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:22 At least it didn't end with just a brawl like everything else does. Like, whatever you think of it, there's still room for more. Yeah, they didn't do the whole goddamn thing. Exactly. Segment six. 9.15 to 9.30 p.m. The finish of the Goober Faction versus Jungle Hook.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Konoske Tekechesta versus Demon Ace. Oh, Damon Ace. Excuse me not demon. Damon Ace. The Dodd-Callus and Tecesterslai promo, Christian Cage's backstage promo, and the beginning of Chris Statlander versus Anna J. 863,000 viewers.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Ouch. So there we found it, because now they've dropped another 37-66,000. So that, they've lost almost 100,000 in the past 30 minutes. Well, segment 7, 930 to 945 p.m. Chris Statlander versus Anna J continued, and the outcast backstage promo, 847,000 viewers. and bye-bye to three, 16 more thousand of you. And finally, 9.45 to 10 p.m. segment 8. Ricky Starks versus Jay White with picture and picture,
Starting point is 00:48:50 and the postmatch with the guns and juice Robinson, 845,000 viewers. Gee, Manelli, they couldn't even pick up anything. They lost two more thousand people for the main event. It's not a bad number to end up with considering where they've been in the past but they're still they lost 120,000 from start to finish. You know, look at the end of the show though.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Statlander versus Anna J. I would have to go back and check. I'm looking at the trend line here. Didn't drop as much as most of the women's segments at the end of the show usually do. And although Ricky Starks has had a good following and people have been into him and him and MJF now months ago
Starting point is 00:49:30 was great on TV, it's him against Jay White. Jay White has not been established enough to pull a number from main eventing this show. So the fact that it was only 845 that it didn't drop off further, I actually think is pretty good. It's the little things, Brian. It's the small victories. Meanwhile, and again, you know, somebody asked me on Twitter, why don't you go through the Smackdown ratings of the raw ratings like this minutely?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Well, number one, the raw ratings is 12 quarters and it's ridiculous. And you know what it's going to be. First hour is okay. Second hour is usually the biggest one. Third hour drops off because what the fuck. And with Smackdown, as we saw last week, and I think we forgot to mention it on the last program, last week's Smackdown number was enormous for modern times. And the final quarter with the Bloodline Roman Rain's Thousand Day Ceremony was 2.9 million viewers.
Starting point is 00:50:34 and you know honestly to be quite honest the bloodline thing is has to be what's carrying the whole deal because there's not that much interesting going on otherwise but good lord the people are liking that and that was the end my point to be made the end of the two hour program was the highest rated segment of the program because people wanted to see that they weren't watching a show that they were saying okay good God, we know what's coming up and we don't give a shit. And that's the difference. They're pretty consistent. They do not lose. The WWE does not lose 20 to 25% of their audience from start to finish on a show usually, unless it's the three-hour raw. And then, actually, they don't lose that percentage.
Starting point is 00:51:27 They lose more viewers because they start out with many more, but they don't lose that much. this show you can't watch the whole goddamn thing because it's just endless same chaos, violence, not even violence, just wreckage. They're not really mad you can tell that, but they're just hurting each other.
Starting point is 00:51:50 But they're cooperating when they do it. Anyway, those are the numbers there. You brought up the Smackdown numbers last week, which was the 1,000 day celebration. For the record, the show started with 2.45 million viewers. It ended with 2.9 million viewers. They picked up, what's 450,000 to 2.5 million?
Starting point is 00:52:19 They picked up almost 20%, didn't they? And the key demo is interesting, too. Starts at 860,000 viewers, ends at 1.13 million. So the advertisers and the network love that. And again, that's what I'm saying is that all there's not, there's not anything interesting on the WWE program except the bloodline. So when the bloodline does something, the people fucking love it because they're starved. And over on the other channel, you can't get fucking hungry because they won't stop feeding you.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So it's complete polar opposites. But the one seems to be working, the starvation thing. Hey, you lock somebody up in the fucking closet and you only. pitch them a sandwich every couple of days, they're going to love the fucking sandwich, right? That's what the experience I've usually had with people that's been in my closet. What about you, Brian? I have not had that experience. People don't get hungry in your closet?
Starting point is 00:53:19 I don't lock people in my closet. How many people have you locked in your closet? I'm not allowed at Liberty right now to enumerate. Have you been locked in the closet? No, I got to key. Before you had a key, no one just pushed you in and locked the door and ran away? No, no. I had the closet built.
Starting point is 00:53:37 There were other closets, Jim. Hodgkins didn't invent the closet. No, this is a good closet. You can't get out of this closet. You can get out of a lot of closets. But no, I got a brand new built-in closet, and I got the only key. I just want everybody to know what the ratings were
Starting point is 00:53:54 because I peaked this time, but I don't know the exact quarters, but I know where they started and where they finish. So why don't we elucidate the people before we move on to the second. half of their week. Well, this week's AEW Dynamite for June 14th, Wednesday night, was watched by 832,000 people. And that is significantly, unfortunately, for them down from the overall number they had last
Starting point is 00:54:22 week. But if I'm not mistaken, I think they started as strong or maybe a little stronger, didn't they? I would have to pull up last week's numbers. I don't have them in front of me. If you do, that may help. But let's start with where they did start off. off, naturally. Segment 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Adam Cole versus MJF, 918,000 viewers. Okay, they started off down. They were a little bit down from last week where they started, as I recall, but still 918,000. They know that's usually their highest point because they get the Big Bang people. So they put something in that one would think, would retain pretty much everybody that was there to watch AEW rather than just hanging over from the Big Bang Theory
Starting point is 00:55:13 would keep tuned to MJF and Adam Cole. So whatever they did in the second quarter, that's the number of people that wanted to watch AEW that night on purpose, I would think. So what is the second quarter? Segment two, the continuation of Adam Cole versus MJF with picture and picture 889,000 viewers. Okay, so they lost 29,000 people between the first quarter and the second quarter,
Starting point is 00:55:42 and one would think that that then, as I said, nobody that wanted to watch AEW is going to turn that match off. So therefore, they had 30,000 big bangers that said, we're not going to stick with it this time. And it should be pointed out here because we do want to talk about a little bit what the network cares about the key demo. Adam Culver's MJF started at 415, segment 2 went to 429. So while the overall number came slightly down, the key demo number, which where the advertising is based off, went up. So that's an important thing there. And that is the difference in viewers was 29,000.
Starting point is 00:56:22 The difference in the demo was 14,000. So basically, they lost 29,000 people, but they picked up 14,000 of a... More attractive demo. That ain't too bad. Segment three, a continuation of this match, the final six minutes of Cole versus MJF, with the post-match, as well as the CM Punk video, and the Sammy Guevara Darby Allen live promo, no Chris Jericho yet. 890,000 viewers. And they kept everybody and added 1,000 going into that finish. By the way, let me mention these stats were pulled by WrestleMania.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Nomics. Thirst and Howell the Third strikes again. Segment 4, 845, the 9 p.m. Continuation of Sammy Gavarra's confrontation with Darby Allen with Chris Jericho added to the mix. And then Sting, the Sonata video. There goes Swami. Darby Allen, Sting Keithley, and Orange Cassidy versus the mogul associates. Mogul embassy, excuse me, with picture and picture.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Jesus Christ. 65,000 viewers. That's better than I thought it was going to be, so they only lost 25,000 for that whole mess. Segment 5, the big 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The final six minutes of the
Starting point is 00:57:47 8-man tag match previously mentioned, the Guns' backstage promo, and the beginning of Wardlow versus Jake Hager, with picture and picture, 857,000 viewers. And again, I've got to say, only 8,000 more, that's better than...
Starting point is 00:58:07 They're hanging with it better than the content that they're being given would indicate. So they ought to be proud of this so far. But this is the point in the show where you know if you're anywhere near a regular viewer, if the front of the show has been loaded with the people you want to see, the rest of the show is not going to have that.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Segment six. Yes, that is, in fact, segment six. Segment six, 915 to 9.30 p.m. The end of Warlo versus Hager with the postmatch Christian Cage, Luchosaurus Arne Anderson angle, Tanahashi's video, MJF's backstage promo, Cassidy, Daniel Garcia, Zach Saber Jr.'s backstage angle,
Starting point is 00:58:52 and the beginning of Tony Storm versus Sky Blue with picture and picture, 792,000 viewers. Wow. Okay, at that point, they say, yeah, there's a 65,000 more people. They are now down a hundred, wait a seven, nine, 97,000 from quarter two and a hundred and 26,000 from the start of the program. And this is also where we talked about the key demo earlier. This is where the key demo starts diving off to.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Segment 7 The final three minutes of Tony Storm versus Sky Blue The Postmatch with Ruby Soho and Willow Nightingale Jack Perry's exciting backstage promo I missed that FTR's backstage promo
Starting point is 00:59:43 I missed that I missed that too actually And the beginning of the Elite versus the Blackpool Combat Club 745,000 views Okay And they have adverted Not only did angles for this
Starting point is 00:59:57 and been building this for weeks, but they advertised this main event match. It wasn't a surprise. So leading into that, 175, 75, 65, 173,000 people from the start of the program said, we don't want to see any of that. And finally, segment 8, 945 to 10 p.m.
Starting point is 01:00:17 The Elite versus Blackpool Combat Club continued with picture and picture, and the big post match with Eddie Kingston, Kinosuke Tekesta, Kenny Omega, Will Osprey, Brian Danielson, Con Edison, Bank of America, Home Depot, 699,000 viewers. And there you have it. The BBC and the elite managed to run off 219,000 people from the start of the program, which is about 25% approximately of where they started. And what was the number in the key demo? Yeah, I want to say, we've got to point that out.
Starting point is 01:01:03 It started at 415, when as high as 429 for Segment 2 of MJF versus Cole, it ended at 325. Jesus. So nobody likes these jackoffs. No, so, I mean, that's the other thing. Anyone who thinks that there's like a big youth fan base for the Bucks and Omega, even if there was seven years ago, how old are those people now? they lost 219,000 off the total viewership they lost 104,000 in the key demo
Starting point is 01:01:35 from its height but yet they're the EVPs, main event guys, the plumber's allowed to do whatever he wants Tony has no control over these people all they do is runoff viewers and and talent they ran off they not only ran off more viewers than anybody
Starting point is 01:01:54 wrestling history. but they ran off a bigger star than anybody else in wrestling history. Well, there you have it. AEW doing a fine job there. Let's talk. Before we get into collision, because of our strange wrestling recording schedule, strange wrestling, strange recording schedule this past week,
Starting point is 01:02:15 we didn't have the ratings for dynamite from this past Wednesday when we reviewed the program. Do you have that information at your, fingertips now, Brian? I do. This past week's AEW Dynamite. June 21st on TNT was watched by 902,000 viewers on average. How in the flying fuck did they get 902,000 people to stick with that stinker? And what is the pattern, when they do something on Wednesday night that's remotely acceptable to the viewer that one would think people would be interested in, they're down at 800. But when they have something
Starting point is 01:02:59 it pretty much stinks from top to bottom, it boosts them about it. Are people watching for the car crash mentality? This is so rotten we can't believe it. More people must see this and give us their opinion? What's going on here? There may be some examples of that here. Let's go to the numbers.
Starting point is 01:03:18 These were compiled by WrestleMania 4.8.8.15 p.m. the Guns versus the Hardys, with the postmatch of CM Punk FTR, Ricky Starks, the Guns, and Bullet Club gold running in, 932,000 viewers. And that's better than normal, to start out with. Let's see if they kept them to quarter two.
Starting point is 01:03:43 To your earlier theory, quarter two, 815, 8.30 p.m. Jeff Jarrett versus Mark Briscoe concession stand brawl with picture and picture and the Blackpool Combat Club promo 976,000 viewers. Jesus Christ! When's the last time
Starting point is 01:04:05 that they gained over 40,000 people in the second quarter instead of lost some? Ever? Again, a lot of different things could play into that. I personally think that if you were someone not watching and you heard CM Punk appeared, you may have thought he could appear again, and that didn't happen, or you may have tuned in because you heard he just was there.
Starting point is 01:04:24 But also, you know, these concession stand matches and arena matches, whatever AEW does, I would think, without knowing for sure, those lend themselves better in a picture and picture than regular matches, just because if you're flipping through, what the fuck is that? What's happening there? So I wonder if that lends itself to the rating, too. I have no idea. But Mark Briscoe should be a ratings draw, but he's not been presented as one, and Jeff Jarrett has not so far scored anything like that.
Starting point is 01:04:59 So let's move on. See where we go from here. Quarter 3, 830 to 8.45 p.m. A recap of collision, as well as Chris Jericho, Minoru Suzuki, and Sammy Guevara versus A.R. Fox, Action Andretti, and Darius Martin. with picture and picture, 926,000 viewers. Okay, well, it's going in the direction that I would imagine that match would go in. They lost 50,000, but they've still got such a big number.
Starting point is 01:05:32 That's insane. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. The end of the previously said six-man tag match. The Chris Jericho Sting Live promo confrontation. The Elite? It just says the elite. I don't know. Oh, the elite Eddie Kingston promo in the back.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And Adam Cole's live promo, 965,000 viewers. What the f? And they're back up another 40. What is different about this show than any other show they've ever done? Besides, much of it was the shits. Well, that's not really different. Again, we also don't know, although it's a small audience that watches New Japan wrestling on TV in America, we know that for a fact. We also don't know what percentage of the New Japan fans who don't watch AEW tuned in specifically to see any of their guys knowing it's the lead up to the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Again, who knows? I don't buy it. It didn't happen last year. No, it didn't, and that was awful TV all around that event last year. But let's go to the big 9 o'clock hour, segment 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m. Adam Cole and MJF Live promo and then Orange Cassidy and Shibata
Starting point is 01:06:48 versus Daniel Garcia and Zach Sabre Jr. with picture and picture. Okay, that is a test. 962,000 viewers. They lost 3,000. No, well, again, who lost the 3,000? Not to spoil anything, but let's go right into segment 6. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:07:12 It should have been when you got that fucking pockets debacle for 20-something minutes, they've got to be, you've got to be, what, restrain to the chair, tied down so you can't reach the remote? Well, segment 6, 915, and 930, the continuation of Cassidy and Shabana versus Garcia and Sabre Jr. With picture and picture, 833,000 viewers. Okay, that makes more sense. a hundred and thirty thousand so that's where everybody said okay fuck it we've seen mjf we've seen CM punk shows over that's it this is again this is the most bizarre they start ahead of where
Starting point is 01:07:56 they usually start they never gain in the second quarter and they do they lose in the third quarter but they gained the same thing back in the fourth quarter stay steady at the top of the hour and then pockets drives off 130,000 people. This is a wild wild weird wacky show. And again, if we're going based on trends
Starting point is 01:08:18 and who knows what percentage of an audience tunes in just to see if CM Punk's going to show up here and then he did, and how many people tuned in right after he did. But MJF and Adam Cole, whenever we think about it, it's been working as far as ratings. Their segment's been popping the number.
Starting point is 01:08:34 So it is bad placement of that Shibata Orange Cassidy match right after that. But I have to wonder after MJF and Adam Cole appear, and you pretty much know they're not going to be back on the show, the rest of the show, how many people said the show's over? Yeah. Maybe it's 100,000 people here.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Who knows? But segment 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The Will Osprey Don Callis backstage confrontation. Tony Storm, uh, Yes, a Tony Storm Willow Nightingale video, and Taya Valkyrie versus Chris Statlander with picture and picture, 804,000 viewers. Okay, I mean, it could have been worse with that 15 minutes,
Starting point is 01:09:21 but they only lost another 29,000 people. So they, in a space of two quarters, they've shed 158,000 people. And finally, segment 8, 945 to 10 p.m. continuation of Statlander versus Valkyrie, the live promo with Eddie Kingston, John Moxley, and then the introduction of Tomohiro, Ishii,
Starting point is 01:09:47 and then Brian Danielson calling out Okada, and the appearance of Okada, 818,000 viewers. Okay, so people came back to see if there was going to be a main event, and they found out there wasn't. All righty then. Do you think, well, I mean, we're about to talk about collision.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Do you think Tony saw these numbers? And unfortunately, as it happens every now and then, got a little bit overzealous about the numbers, and that led to what was collision this week. It's possible because their first hour of dynamite would be a nice respectable television program if they had cut it off there. But the second hour brought them to an untimely end. But yeah, because according to the ratings, nobody wanted to see this thing, Or if they had wanted to see the main event, they were discouraged by the two hours of treachery, deceit,
Starting point is 01:10:45 and torture that came before it. You're saying it. Let's go to the ratings quickly, and then we will move ahead to Smackdown. The ratings, AEW Dynamite, June 28th, Wednesday night, 809,000 viewers on average, and it's the lowest total viewership since May 3rd, and it's the lowest in the key demo 18 to 49 since June 24th, 2020. Three years ago. Well, but it was their anniversary.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Did they have a rotten show three years ago this week? I am not exactly sure. Now, the NHL draft was on the same night. All right, you got that all-night gas station opened up down the road. How are you going to compete with that? Well, let's go to the quarter hours. Here they are. Once again, June 28th, AEW Dynamite on TBS.
Starting point is 01:11:37 to 8.15 p.m., quarter one, these are compiled by Wesslenomics, Tomohiro-Eishi-e versus John Moxley with picture-in-picture, 943,000 viewers. Okay, they started at 943. Let's see where they finish up, and let's see how many people this thing ran off in the first 15 minutes. Segment two, 815 to 8.30 p.m.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Continuation of Eiji E.E. versus Moxley. With Eddie Kingston. Uh, yeah, that's what it says. With Eddie Kingston's involvement. MJF and Adam Cole's backstage angle. Moxley and Kingston and Renee's backstage angle. And it will Osprey-Omega video. Nine hundred and nine thousand viewers.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Well, that is considerably better than I thought they do. They only lost 34,000. But wait, there's more. 8.30 to 8.45 p.m. Quarter three, El Hijo del Vikingo, and Keith Lee, and Orange Cassidy, versus Daniel Garcia, Matt Menard, and Angelo Parker, with picture and picture, 835,000 viewers. Gee, okay, now we start seeing the Exodus, the lemmings dropping off the cliff. There's another 74,000 people.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Now they've lost in the first 45 minutes, 100. And 108,000 viewers. But again, the NHL draft was on, and that's a big night for all those hockey-loving wrestling fans. Segment 4, 845 to 9 p.m. The finish of the previous six-man tag match. The Elite's backstage angle with the Dark Order. Chris Jericho's promo. And the beginning of the Elite versus the Dark Order.
Starting point is 01:13:32 808,000 viewers. And off go. another 27,000, bringing our total that we've lost now to a hundred and thirty-five thousand people. And they're going to the top of the hour with that shitty buckaroos match. But wait, there's more. Top of the hour at a big nine o'clock hour, nine to nine, fifteen p.m. Continuation of the elite versus dark order with picture and picture, and the post-match angle with the Blackpool Combat Club and Eddie Kingston,
Starting point is 01:14:05 783,000 viewers. So they lost at the top of the hour 75,000 more people with who are allegedly some of their main event individuals in the ring competing. Segment 5, 9... No, segment 6, excuse me.
Starting point is 01:14:27 That's right, it says it's an overrun. Segment 6, 915 to 9.30 p.m. John Moxley's live promo, Samoa Joe, Dustin Rhodes and Ricky Starks's videos, MJF Cole and Roderick Strong's backstage confrontation, and Jungle Boys promo with Hook Running Out, 762,000 viewers. Jeez, another 21,000.
Starting point is 01:14:53 They are down now 181,000. Segment 7, 930 to 945 p.m. Sammy Gavara's entrance, with picture and picture, Ruby's Soho versus Alexia Nicole, Ruby's live promo, and QTV's backstage promo, 711,000 viewers. Oh, and 51,000 more people just said, fuck this, I'm out of here. And finally, and I remind you, we have overrun numbers.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And finally, 9.45 to 10 p.m., Darby Allen and And Sting versus Chris Jericho and Sammy Gavarro with picture and picture, 720,000 viewers, 2-minute overrun, 810,000 viewers. So 90,000 people came to see what else was on. What program normally starts at 10 o'clock? I am not sure. Well, it must have a devoted audience, but basically, with Sting and Jericho in the ring, they could only get 9,000 people back of the 120... No, I'm sorry, in Seg 7, they had lost 132,000,
Starting point is 01:16:13 and Jericho and Sting got 9,000 of them back. And then suddenly 90,000 other people showed up at 10 o'clock. Boy, howdy. But you can't say that was unexpected. Look at that program, and look at the... It's starting to be a cumulative. effect at this point also because the shows the last several weeks
Starting point is 01:16:38 have been stinkers on Wednesday nights. You know, this is going to start affecting both shows too because if, for the most part, the only thing collision has going for it is that CM Punk's going to be there. And Wednesday night's falling apart because look at what it is. This is why the brand split,
Starting point is 01:16:56 whatever you want to call it, doesn't work for AEW. You need all hands on deck to make these shows acceptable because they're bad. And even then, if Wednesday sucks, why do people, why should they suspect that Saturday will be better if they've been seeing this from this company? You know, yes, the punk fans will check it out, but everybody else goes, well, it's going to be more of the same. And, you know, meanwhile, the WWA, WWE runs away with the viewers with one interesting thing in fucking two or three hours. And that's different in terms of how you establish, you know, Roman will be on Smackdown. Whenever he's there, he's going to be there unless they announce he's on Raw.
Starting point is 01:17:40 If you're a casual AEW fan, whatever that means, I guess one of the, you know, 700,000 people that don't buy the pay-per-views. I guess that would maybe be a casual fan. What do you know about punk? Do you know that punk's only going to be on one show? Are you tuning in frustrated every week expecting punk on dynamite and there's no punk? Because it's not really said, he's only a very very very... on Saturdays. Nothing's being said.
Starting point is 01:18:06 They're handling that wrong, too. And they've taken so much off punk already, and it just continues. Yeah, they manage to, it's like I said, about shit-stain a long time ago. They don't get people over, they get people under. They manage to take people that the fans
Starting point is 01:18:22 are interested in and diminish or devalue or damage them to the point where they're not as interested as they used to be. Or the matches, or the stipendium. How many times can you say, we're going to cut this guy's head off with a chainsaw? Well, that's great to first few times.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Not for the guy whose head's being cut off, but for the people watching. But after you've seen a guy get his head cut off with a chainsaw about seven or eight times, ain't that many different ways you can do it. Well, that was AEW Dynamite, another horrid episode, one of the worst episodes ever, just worthless. How'd you really feel?
Starting point is 01:19:02 I liked it. Do you want to find out how special it was this week? I am almost willing to say that I will whistle Dixie out my ass if people watch this program. This was abysmal. But I'm scared because, you know, the AEW fans are just one step above. The Germans would like to have their balls nailed to a stepstool. So I don't know. So just to confirm, you will or will not whistle Dixie at your ass?
Starting point is 01:19:32 I said, I'm almost willing to. We'll see what happens. That may have been the right decision. This past week, AEW Dynamite, Wednesday, July 5th on TBS, on average, was watched by 855,000 viewers. Good Lord. So, again, they can't run them off. The 800 to 850 or 860 of every Wednesday night,
Starting point is 01:19:58 they can run them off over the course of the two hours, but they will come back the next week and start again. That's right, and that's indeed how the show began. They started again this week. Segment one, quarter one, 8 to 8, 15 p.m., compiled by WrestleManiaomics here. Darby Allen and Keith Lee's backstage angle. And then Lee and Swerve versus Darby and Pockets with picture and picture, 9606,000 viewers.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Alrighty, let's see where they go from there. And I believe, and I don't have anything in front of me, someone told me for the record that this week specifically was up off the Big Bang Theory. So they actually began higher than the Big Bang Theory for whatever that's worth. Good Lord. Segment two. The continuation of Lee and Strickland versus Darby Allen and Pockets with the post-match, the Nick Wayne video, Jack Perry and Hook's backstage confrontation,
Starting point is 01:21:01 and the MJF Adam Cole video, 829. thousand viewers. Jesus Christ, on a cracker, they lost 77,000 people in 15 minutes. And with that average, they've got to go back up somewhere. Segment three, 830 to 845 p.m. Billy Gunn and the Acclaim versus the Blade and the Bollywood Boys, with picture and picture, the post match with the QTV girl, Eddie Kingston and John Moxley's promo and video, And then RJ City, announcing that Matt Hardy has the team with Jeff Jarrett, 835,000 viewers.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Well, they got 6,000 of them back. Segment 4. The Chris Jericho Don Callis live promo, excuse me, 845 to 9 p.m. And the CM Punk Samoa Joe video, 898,000 viewers. Okay, that is. again 60, wait a minute, yeah, 63,000 more so they're almost back to where they started from. Imagine that, punk being in that quarter. The 9 o'clock hours, segment 5.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Roderick Strong and Adam Cole's backstage angle, followed by Adam Cole and MJF versus the butcher and Matt Menard with picture and picture, 879,000 viewers. back down 2019 but again that that has to be people curious about MJF and coal right one can only assume because what else would you watch that it's not the match and I mean there is something to be said here about show wide star power where you have someone who's been presented as a star someone who is a company star versus people who may not be you know it's like a squash match in the old days but segments so what is this now segment Six. Excuse me. The overrun threw me off here again. That happened last week. Segment six, the MJF Adam Cole Live promo post-match, Britt Baker's backstage promo,
Starting point is 01:23:16 the Jericho, Garcia, and Guevara backstage promo, and the beginning of Ruby Soho versus Britt Baker, 859,000 viewers. So they only lost 20,000 on that, and boy, that's where they usually start hemorrhaging, so the last two quarters could tell the interesting tale. So quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m.
Starting point is 01:23:43 The continuation of Ruby Soho versus Britt Baker with picture and picture, the outcast and sky blue confrontation, and the beginning of Kenny Omega versus Wheeler Yuda 837,000 viewers. Okay, now people are getting the idea.
Starting point is 01:24:01 There goes another 22,000. So we started at 906. We got, we dropped to 829 second quarter. unbelievably enough, the worst so far, that usually doesn't happen. Orange Cassidy. Well, there you go. It came back up almost to where they started and they've lost another 61,000 since then. How many weeks have they had people tune in, you see Orange Cassidy and you go, I'll come back later. Come back later. But finally, and I'll do the overrun here too. Quarter 8, 9.45, the 10 p.m.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Kenny Omega versus Wheeler Yuda continued with picture and picture. 8404,000 viewers. And 10 p.m. Well, hold, I'm just going to say, they held up better for that main event. They held up better than I would have thought. They only lost 100,000 or so, people. Only about 10%. And finally, the two-minute.
Starting point is 01:25:01 overrun 10 to 1002 p.m. The finish of the match and the postmatch brawl with the elite and the Blackpool folks and Takesha 804,000 viewers. Same exact thing. In two minutes, you can't get credit for the
Starting point is 01:25:20 quarter hour number for only two minutes. I forget exactly how they quantify it. But unless you, at least back in the attitude era when we were starting to pay attention that unless something
Starting point is 01:25:35 went like seven minutes or the majority of the quarter or something like that you couldn't take credit for that number I think they just diddoed because it was only two minutes because they didn't do it on purpose they just needed the extra time and that was this past week's
Starting point is 01:25:53 AEW dynamite well I got to hand it to them they kept a lot of their audience too on this rotten program So Wednesday night is starting to shape up as being the night that people watch a rotten wrestling program. And Saturday night they watch a good logical wrestling program. And the fight amongst them is who's going to lose less of the audience that we start with? Who's going to run off fewer fucking viewers?
Starting point is 01:26:24 And you know what? Whatever we want to say about the MJF and Adam Cole stuff, the viewers have reacted to it so far. I mean, this isn't the first week where it did an all right number, which spiked the number, and this is them against two guys that you knew weren't going to win the match. They didn't even care about. You'd have to think about who were the opponents in that match. It would be hard to remember. It didn't matter.
Starting point is 01:26:45 It was all about the Cole MJF dynamic. So whatever we think about it, the AEW fans have really started to react to it. Yeah, well, no, and honestly, as I said earlier, listening to MJF do something, anything, even silliness is more entertaining than most three. rest of this program, so I can see that. Well, we're going to find out. We haven't even seen collision yet. By the end of this program, we'll have
Starting point is 01:27:12 seen that too. We're doing a pause for more programming here later on, but again, in the meantime, the WWE audiences or viewership ratings with the whole bloodline thing has gone through the roof, and they are the highest quarter hours,
Starting point is 01:27:32 of the shows, and they involve almost no wrestling most of the time, but they're doing better than over here where they're trying to wrestle us to death in various ways, and that's pretty much exactly what they're doing. And they can't keep an audience because it all looks the fucking same. It's interesting. WWE has the bloodline, which is such a rating smash right now at the same time that they're negotiating their new TV rights deal.
Starting point is 01:28:02 And they're not hot-shotting it. They're drawing it out. Well, because they know the consistent numbers for a longer period of time is more important to the TV stations than, oh, that boy, that one show did a great number. And the next week, it was the shits. That's what the WWE wants to do, and they're not going to, they don't have to be in a hurry. But it just, you know, goddamn, with all these wrestling shows, it seems like there'd be one that could actually just give us a wrestling show.
Starting point is 01:28:33 But we've got the kids and chaos, the kids in the hall, and we've got over here the fucking wrestling show equivalent of C-SPAN with a talk segment that draws all the viewers. So... I'm unimpressed. Did anybody watch this program? This program was watched by people. In fact, it was watched AEW Dynamite on July 12th, 2023 on TBS.
Starting point is 01:28:59 It was watched by 82023. 25,000 people. 825, so they're still barely struggling above 800, but that's where they've been in that range for some time now. But the question, as always, is what was the attrition factor?
Starting point is 01:29:17 How did they start? And who hopped off the boat? Well, the show began, these were compiled by WrestleMania. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Chris Jericho versus Commander, with picture and picture. If you are one of the listeners from outside of the states, when I say that,
Starting point is 01:29:35 it refers to here in the states. At times, there are commercials with a very small screen with the wrestling. No, God, go ahead and explain it. Go ahead and explain it to them the way that AEW is thinking. They're thinking that our fans
Starting point is 01:29:51 that watch us on TV want to see this program so bad that even when we go to commercial, if we put up a small post, postage stamp size screen in the corner with the commercial audio playing and the commercial taking up most of the screen, people will sit on their couch, grab their binoculars,
Starting point is 01:30:10 and try to look at that little picture and picture just to see the rest hold that is occurring at that moment. And I bring it up because we have heard from a lot of listeners who keep saying, I don't know what Brian is referring to, why he keeps saying picture and picture. But Jericho versus Commander, picture and picture, 896,000 viewers.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Okay, not a good sign for their quarter eight, but we shall contend. Again, they've been starting lower. The Big Bang, I guess, has lost its appeal, but they've been starting lower and keeping more of their audience. They haven't been doing the starting with a million and ending with 600-something thousand here lately, but that's not a good place to start if they're going to do an 825 average. Go ahead. Segment two, or excuse me, quarter two, eight, 15, 8.30 p.m.
Starting point is 01:31:01 The finish of Jericho versus Commander. The promo with Jericho and Don Callis. Jungle Boy running from Hook. Callis' backstage promo. And the first two minutes of the MJF Adam called Buddy segment, 821,000 viewers. Oh, boy. And 75,000 people in the first 15 minutes went away because, Chris Jericho versus Ignaz-Maggie?
Starting point is 01:31:31 Been the same thing. Quarter 3, 830 to 845 p.m. The final two minutes of the MJF Adam Cole video and Orange Cassidy and Darby Allen versus Sammy Guevara and Daniel Garcia with picture and picture 780,000 viewers. Oh, good Lord. Okay, so...
Starting point is 01:31:53 That's pockets. That's pockets. That, yeah, that's because It's every week now. Again, that was, hold on, where's my notes? That was after we got finished with MJF and Adam Cole, people knew, okay, MJF has been on the program, and here comes this sack of shit. Let's do something else. So they have lost 116,000 people in the first 45 minutes.
Starting point is 01:32:18 And if you watch this show every week, you're sick of Orange Cassidy, unless you're one of the super in the bubble AEW fan. Hey, people were sick of Orange Cassidy when they watched him the first time. But now you've been trained to know that his matches are going to go probably 15 minutes-ish. So you know you can kind of go to the bathroom or go to the kitchen or wherever during that quarter. How long does it take you to shit? Well, maybe I went outside of smoke a joint. I mean, I don't know. But quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m.
Starting point is 01:32:46 The final five minutes of Cassidy and Allen versus Guevara and Garcia, the Nick Wayne video, the Adam Cole Roderick Strong Backstage Confrontation and the entrances for the tag team match 803,000 viewers. Okay, they got 23,000 back because now we're going to have the match with MJF and Adam Cole. And that's what we get at the big 9 o'clock hour. Quarter 5, 9 to 9.9.15 p.m., MJF and Adam Cole versus Brian Cage and Big Bill, with picture and picture
Starting point is 01:33:22 and the post-match promo from Cole and MJF, 883,000 viewers. Wow! At the top of the 9 o'clock hour with the big star in the ring and they know that some furtherance of the issue will go on, they pick up 80,000 people at the top of the hour.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Quarter six, 915 to 9.30 p.m. the Jake Hager Chris Jericho backstage confrontation and Ruby Soho versus Sky Blue with picture and picture 802,000 viewers. God, damn! Right back.
Starting point is 01:34:03 And they went right back where they were and lost an extra thousand. Quarter 7, 930 to 945 p.m. The Owen Hart Cup recap and Swerve Strickland versus Nick Wayne with picture in picture, 783,000 viewers. And, well, and now they're trickling out trying to find something else to do because they know that they've,
Starting point is 01:34:28 basically they've seen what they want to see, and there's nothing more to see here. Well, there was a little bit more to see, and that was quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m., the final five minutes of Strickland v. Wayne, and the promo and angle featuring Don Callis, Kenny Omega, the Blackpool Combat Club, John Mockes, the elite, Takeshesta Ibushi on video, and much, much more, 831,000 viewers. Oh, son of a gun! Well, hold on here a second. Let me give them a small smattering of applause. Where is it? I keep trying to fire there. You could have just used your hands and it's a small smattering of applause.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Well, that was recorded live at the Future Farmers of America Association Convention. they picked up 48,000 for their announcement at the end. I doubt very seriously if it was anything else that was going on. I told you the last few weeks because I wasn't crazy about it. This week, I loved the match. But MJF and Cole was resonating with the fans. And you know, you've got to, this was a different rating pattern than they have been doing normally because normally they start high and there may be some fluctuation in the middle, but they have dropped off horribly by the end. As we've talked about, they lose 20% or 25% of what they start with. In this case, they lost 15% of so of what they started
Starting point is 01:35:58 with at two different places in the middle of the program, but finished strong enough to where they only were down, good God, about 5 to 7%. So they were all over the page, but people were checking back in to see if anything would actually happen. so bravo for that we still have to talk before we move on to the world of the bloodline we have to talk about the ratings
Starting point is 01:36:26 that the fiasco that AEW presented last Wednesday night for blood and guts scored okay they had they had every goddamn major alleged star that they have dedicated the Wednesday night television program
Starting point is 01:36:44 to for weeks weeks and weeks and weeks weeks weeks weeks the the BBC the buckaroos and their pals the blood and gut the two ring guaranteed carnage chaos and vivisection match and one would think
Starting point is 01:37:05 that they would have done the largest rating that they have done in recent weeks or months for something like that one would suppose it's been built up and promoted and also one would think that this week they would have broken their usual tradition
Starting point is 01:37:23 of hemorrhaging viewers as the show goes on because the big blood and guts match where they gave all the blood and guts was on last and people should have hung around to see that theoretically. Now, I do not know because of the thing that I believe I mentioned earlier in this program before we did a little time traveling and I had much sleep over the last few years.
Starting point is 01:37:46 few days, I've been working on a fucking project. So you are going to enlighten me now, Brian last, as to what the ratings were for this Wednesday, past Wednesday night, without me ever having any predetermined knowledge of this important bullshit that we're about to talk about. Well, this important bullshit was AEW Dynamite, Blood and Guts, July 19th. The email from Restlenomics is Blood and Guys. I think he has a misprinted blood and guts
Starting point is 01:38:19 July 19th. TBS was watched on average by 953,000 viewers. 953,000 so they did. They hopped themselves up on their blood and their guts, their plasma and their
Starting point is 01:38:34 uterine samples. 100,000 people more than normal. Well, the show open, quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Jack Perry's try out for Breaking Bad, followed by Hook v. Jack Perry with picture and picture, 952,000 viewers.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Aha! So this indicates that they are going to keep, and indeed possibly gain some of these people. Well, quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m., the continuation of Hook v. Perry, the Adam Cole MJF Buddy video, an ad break, Don Callis and Chris Jericho captured in a restaurant by Alex Marvez, and Kayla Sparks versus Britt Baker, 915,000 viewers. Okay, so they lost 37,000 on that because that was a great variety of not very gripping television.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Quarter 3, 830 to 8.45 p.m. Adam Cole, MJF, and Roderick Strong's backstage angle, and the beginning of Adam Cole and MJF versus Daniel Garcia and Sammy Guevara with picture in picture, 977,000 viewers. So hand it off to MJF and Mr. Cole for their continuing saga, and they get 62,000 back. Not even back, but they're 37,000 they lost and another 25,000. The next quarter, quarter four, eight, 45 to 9 p.m. The continuation of Colin MJF versus Garcia and Guevara, with the post-match with Chris Jericho and Garcia and Guevara,
Starting point is 01:40:21 FTR, just as FTR, I don't remember what it was. It'd do a promo or whatever it was. FTR and an ad break, 967,000 viewers and also the high point during the scheduled two hours for the key demo, 464. Hmm, so they lost 10,000 at that point. That's bathroom breakage material, if that. But again, like we've said, the Cole MJF stuff, I'm not really happy about it. However, the fans are reacting to it, and more than importantly, it's popping the youth number in terms of their viewers. Well, it's MJF performing anything. At this point, I think he could, you know, fart in their general.
Starting point is 01:41:07 direction to pick up viewers. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, nine to nine, fifteen p.m. The best friends, Orange Cassidy, Chris Statlander, Darby Allen, Nick Wayne, backstage angle. The Blackpool Combat Club. I think I managed to fast forward all the way through that. The Blackpool Combat Club Golden Elite video, entrances, an ad break, and the beginning of Blood and Guts, the Blackpool Combat Club with Takeshita and Pack, versus the golden elite
Starting point is 01:41:38 957,000 viewers. Jesus Christ! They lost 10,000 at the top of the hour for the start of the fucking end of the world? All right, that's surprising. I mean, that's still, I just called 10,000 people
Starting point is 01:41:58 bathroom breakage, but that's fluctuation in what was already going on. This is the start of all right, nevertheless. Well, quarter six, the continuation of the Blood and Guts match with Picture and Picture Twice. This is the high point of the two-hour scheduled show, 980,000 viewers. Okay, so they picked up another 23,000 there. Quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Once again, the continuation of blood and guts with picture and picture, 945,000 viewers. Jesus Christ! Okay, maybe they're proving our point. And finally, and there's going to be an overrun here, I tell you, too. Quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m., the conclusion of blood and guts with picture and picture, 928,000 viewers. Oh! And the overrun from 10 to 10.103 p.m., 980,000 viewers. Ed, but how long was the overrun?
Starting point is 01:43:06 Three minutes. Okay, so no. You don't get the credit for three of the three minutes of the 15 minutes. It's only if it goes past seven and a half, right? Do you really get the credit for? They're doing this a lot lately, though, with overruns with AEW trying to, I don't know if they're doing it to try to increase the number or whatever the reason is. It's an artificial inflation if that's, if they're averaging 953 and factoring that in.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Because no, suddenly on a declining. On a declining ratings pattern over 45 minutes from quarter six, seven, or yes, quarter six, seven, and eight. Yeah. You don't suddenly get credit for a three-minute overrun that people are tuning into the scheduled program that suddenly boost you $52,000 for three minutes. No, especially since every other top of the quarter they had been fucking tuning out since that thing started.
Starting point is 01:44:08 They kept the majority of their audience on this program. If you look at the top of the show to the bottom of the show, but if you take the blood and guts one hour and look at it by itself, they still, over the course of that match with those people lost viewers. and from their high point to the finish of the main event of the most important match
Starting point is 01:44:39 in the history of blah blah blah they lost 52,000 people still not the major percentage that they normally do to be quite fair and they managed to not even lose 5% or so from the start to the finish of the thing
Starting point is 01:44:59 and they got an extra 100,000 people from what they do every week. So kudos to them. But nearly the high point came. The high point in the first hour came when MJF and Adam Cole got together. And the high point in the second half came in pretty much the first goddamn 15 minutes of that cage fiasco. And as the longer it went, the more people tuned out.
Starting point is 01:45:29 What does that say to you, considering the amount of TV time that's been spent the elite versus Blackpool Combat Club feud that Cole and MJF who are at this point doing comedy and just doing... The other guys are falling in broken glass and thumbtacks and slicing their heads with razor blades
Starting point is 01:45:45 and they can't get to fucking viewership of... A dance contest. God damn Olson and Johnson. Maybe maybe they could come out and do Mac and Moran it would work. It, It shows that they promoted this television show, this big event, this night of chaos and
Starting point is 01:46:11 mayhem and comedy, and people tuned in for it. And they loved MJF and Adam Cole, and they were kind of hanging around to wait to see the, you know, the blood and guts thing. And as the blood and guts thing went on and on and on, people got less and less interested instead of more and more. Wasn't it? I mean, forgive me if I'm wrong, but last week, over the course of an hour on Saturday night,
Starting point is 01:46:41 didn't FTR and gin and juice actually pick up people interested in what was going on when they heard about it? Yes, they did. Well, this was the opposite effect. Because as we all know from going to grade school, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. they put on a good match and people tuned in they put on a stinky match and people said fuck it
Starting point is 01:47:05 and started tuning out well a rather weak edition of AEW dynamite and that was it July 26th how weak were the ratings and did anybody did they give up hope when the first match was AR Fox and fucking pockets for 20 minutes or did they wait until they found out
Starting point is 01:47:26 they were getting Pudding gang in the main event to fucking bang on mass. AEW Dynamite, July 26th on TBS was watched by 898,000 viewers. So my God, they were down from blood and guts,
Starting point is 01:47:41 but up about 50,000 or 60,000 from what they've been doing on this fucking crummy they ought to thank their lucky stars that this got a rating. Well, Jim, let's go to the breakdown of the different quarters. Of course, these
Starting point is 01:47:57 were pulled by Russellnomics. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. The Darby Allen AR Fox video and Orange Cassidy versus AR Fox with picture in picture, 985,000 viewers. Much better start. I can't remember last week. Last week was the big blood and guts, but much better start than they have been doing. And apparently by the overall average, they didn't keep all of them. Well, quarter 2, 8.15, 8.30 p.m.
Starting point is 01:48:29 The final five minutes of Cassidy v. Fox. The postmatch with Darby Allen and John Moxley. A recap of Blood and Guts. The Chris Jericho Don Callis promo with Renee. And an ad break. Good Lord. 975,000 viewers. Good God.
Starting point is 01:48:51 They kept all but 10,000 through that misery. Sometimes you either have to wonder about the Nielsen services or the average American public. Or misery. But quarter three, 8.30 to 8.45 p.m. The Claudio Castignoli-Willer-Uta promo interrupted by John Moxley, the Jack Perry in-ring promo interrupted by Jerry Lynn, the Britt Baker promo, and the beginning of Pack v. Gravity, viewers.
Starting point is 01:49:28 And the high point 441 in the key demo. Ford! They, they, wait a minute. So, tell me again what was in that quarter. Okay, it was the Claudio Cassignoli and Wheeler Uta promo interrupted by John Moxley. It was the Jack Perry in-ring promo interrupted by Jerry Lynn.
Starting point is 01:49:50 It was the Britt Baker promo and the beginning of Pack versus Gravity. And more people watch that 15 minutes, than watched any portion of their blood and guts match last week, that they hyped for weeks and weeks. How the fuck does that make any sense? I don't know, but let's go forward and see how this works out. And apparently we're coming to a cliff.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Well, that cliff 845 to 9 p.m. The continuation of Pack v. Gravity with Picture and Picture, the MJF Adam Cole promo, an ad break, and the FTR promo, 863,000 viewers. Ouch. Okay, there's 134,000 that they... Were they waiting to hear something? Did they tune in for some reason? Was it MJF and Adam Cole?
Starting point is 01:50:44 And they say, okay, they've been on? You know, what... Sometimes I wonder, if you're someone who's just a casual viewer who likes wrestling and you watch AEW when you see it, and the show opens with Orange Cassidy, whatever we think of him. You recognize him. You know who he is. You may watch. Darby Allen, same thing. Moxley, same thing. Pack versus gravity. All of a sudden, you have pack against a guy you've never seen on his television show ever before who looks like a generic guy.
Starting point is 01:51:12 So I think that's part of, who knows? And you know, and I've said in the past, the Nielsen ratings, especially years ago for local television, were fucking bullshit. I found that out 25 years ago with OVW when the infamous test pattern quarter was the highest rated quarter of the show. But that's local television. If three people go on vacation, your program can die. But this is national numbers and modern times. They got to be on the ball of a Jesus Christ. All righty. So they got up to a million for a DREC segment and then lost it.
Starting point is 01:51:51 135,000 in 15 minutes. Where are we going from here? We return with quarter five, the big 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 915 p.m. Swerve Strickland versus Darby Allen with picture and picture 911,000 viewers. And then suddenly they gained 40,000, 58,000 back. And for Darby and swerve. Again, this ain't holding out a lot of hope for the Pudin gang, but keep going. Quarter six, 915 to 9.30 p.m., the post-match angle with Nick Wayne, A.R. Fox, and, of course, Swareb Strickland and Darby Allen.
Starting point is 01:52:30 The Jericho Appreciation Society confrontation backstage. An ad break. And Taya Valkyrie versus Britt Baker with picture-in-picture. 855,000 viewers. And they lost those 58,000. They gained back in another 8,000 on top of that. So people tuning in at the top of the 9 o'clock hour to see what's going on. They see Darby and swerve, and then they ain't sticking. Quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The final five minutes of Taya Valkyrie v. Britt Baker. Various pre-taped promos, an ad break,
Starting point is 01:53:07 and the entrances and beginning of the match for the three-way main event, 815,000 viewers. And another 40,000, and we're down a hundred and seventy thousand from the start of the program. And finally quarter eight, 945 to 10 p.m. The Lucha Brothers versus John Moxley and Claudio Castignoli versus best friends with picture and picture
Starting point is 01:53:33 781,000 viewers. And that's what I figured. And there go another 19,000, 34,000 people and they ended up 204,000 down from where they started or, by my math, about 21.5% of their viewing audience is what they lost from start to finish, which is about normal. But they started with more and they kept more early, but they still lost the same amount by the end. And now, regardless of whatever we say about these shows, Brian, there have been shows
Starting point is 01:54:11 that I will readily admit and or recommend that. that were much better than this show that they've done, and we still didn't like them, and they didn't do anywhere near this viewership. Why did this many people watch this crummy show? I don't know what the competition was that night, but usually that plays a big part of it. There's no Vanderpump.
Starting point is 01:54:36 There's no NBA championships. A lot of the things that have thrown things off in the past are not there right now, and we'll see how long this continues. Again, they got a lot of people in there. Beyond that, it was not a great episode. to get them to want to come back. Or even to stay. But yeah, but they ought to, again,
Starting point is 01:54:54 they ought to be turning cartwheels. They got that number for this program. But again, the main event was what glared at me. I mean, you know, we're used to crummy segments in the Wednesday night program on a regular basis. But why did they think that anybody wanted to see that main event? As a question that people will be asking themselves for many years, but that was AEW Dynamite. Before we move on, we got to
Starting point is 01:55:21 we got to jump back to last week. We got to wrap up a loose end from the drive-through. We did not have the dynamite ratings for last Wednesday. We reviewed that program. Boy, howdy, did we? But we didn't know how many people watched it. And my thought was,
Starting point is 01:55:41 if there was any justice in the world, this program would get the first ever rating of seven, as in seven fucking people. Because this thing stunk, but the AEW fans know that going in. There is a high percentage of the AEW fan that knows and expects and is looking forward to having a big whiff of shit.
Starting point is 01:56:06 And there's a lot of people looking forward to seeing what's going on with MJF and Adam Cole, but this week's AEW Dynamite, August 2nd, Wednesday night on TBS, was watched on average by 894,000 viewers. Okay, so again, they're in their sweet spot. They didn't do as good as blood and guts,
Starting point is 01:56:25 but they didn't do as bad as they did the week before, I believe, blood and guts. It's in the mid, it's 800 and something, again. That's right, and these numbers were compiled by WrestleMania. Thurston Howell III. That's almost his name. A big financial wizard.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Chris Jericho and Takesha. Take a shit. Versus Daniel Garcia and Sammy Gavarro with picture and picture ads. 919,000 viewers. Well, that ain't bad. And now if you are telling me that the overall was 894,000, they're going to have to go up from here, which is unusual to get,
Starting point is 01:57:07 because I know they're going to go down somewhere. So where we go from here? We got a quarter to 2, 815, 8.30 p.m. The finish of the previous tag match. A video. An ad break. Jericho being confronted by Matt Menard backstage. Jack Perry being confronted by Jerry Lynn and Rob Van Dam.
Starting point is 01:57:33 And Hikaru Shita's backstage promo. 9303,000 viewers. Well, that's pretty much normal fluctuation when you get to those numbers, 16,000, but I don't see how we're going to get to 894 unless something happens to bring these people into the tent. Quarter three, Trent Barretta versus John Moxley versus Penta Elzerro Miato with picture and picture ads. Certainly to God it can't be this. 917,000 viewers.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Okay, they basically went back to where they were in quarter one. Okay. Quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. The finish of the previous mentioned match. The post-match with Blackpool Combat Club, Best Friends, oh, that's it, Blackpool Combat Club and the Best Friends, an ad break, RVD's backstage promo, and the beginning of MJF's promo, 945,000 viewers. Okay, so that's 28,000 and wonderful.
Starting point is 01:58:38 would have to think that I don't know if the ad break or the promo did it, I think they're tuning in for MJF. Well, the big 9 o'clock hour, quarter five, 9 to 9.15 p.m., the MJF and Adam Cole live promo, Roger Strong's temperate tantrum
Starting point is 01:58:58 backstage, that was funny. The kingdom confronting Roger Strong or talking to him. Jay Lethal, Jeff Jarrett, and Satinam Singh versus Kenny O'Megger and the Young Bucks, with picture and picture, 964,000 viewers, and also this segment was the high point for the key demo,
Starting point is 01:59:19 441,000 viewers. And one would have to, and that's the high point for the show so far. And one would have to credit that with MJF and Adam Cole, or they're the new Raca and Perez. They're doing it on every show. They pop the number on collision. They're doing it. And they're doing it with the key demo, too.
Starting point is 01:59:36 segment 6, 915 and 930 p.m. The last four minutes of Lethville, Jared, and Singh versus Omega and the Bucks. Oh, boy. The Kenny Omega and Adam Page Live promo. That was a thriller. And then swerve Strickland and A.R. Fox breaking multiple laws and attacking Nick Wayne at his home,
Starting point is 01:59:57 plus an ad break. 863,000 viewers. Wow. Thank you, Elite. The highly paid recently re-signed elite loses 101,000 viewers in 15 minutes. Boy, there's something there. But quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Aussie Open versus El Hijo do Vikingo and Commander, with picture and picture, end an ad break. 835,000 viewers. I was about to say, I didn't think they were going to come back in droves there. there goes another 28,000. And finally, and I'll give you the overrun here too, quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. Tony Storm versus Akaru Shita,
Starting point is 02:00:46 with picture and picture, and a title change, 807,000 viewers, and the two-minute post-run, 852,000 viewers. Yeah, but we're not given the extra 40, what if we said 45,000 people for two minutes we're not going to do that.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Well, this one's interesting because they don't normally peak in the middle. They normally peak at the beginning. But in this case, they stayed fairly steady until MJF and Cole showed up. They popped in big for that. And then they ran off in droves for the elite
Starting point is 02:01:30 and continued migrating away for the rest of the programming afterwards. So they only ended up 112,000 down from where they started, but they ended up 157,000 down from where their peak was. Very interesting. Another show where this Adam Cole, MJF stuff, gets the highest rating, gets the highest key demo. It hasn't just been on Wednesday. They did it on Saturday. What does this tell you?
Starting point is 02:01:58 I mean, this is clearly the hottest thing in the company. By far. And it's selling merch, too. It may be their bloodline. And MJF is flawless with everything in terms of just he can perform anything and in any emotions or whatever. Adam Cole has been a little, eh, but with this, he's sunk his teeth into it. It's silly for me, a bit of the tone of being silly.
Starting point is 02:02:28 I wish they'd have tried to make it a little bit more believable with the cinematic-like vignettes, but it's more fun to watch than most anything else on this fucking program. Considering the business they are doing, and they continue to do, with what the network wants, which is the key demo, with the overall number, with merchandise, with crowd reactions, everything we could look at, if there was a plan to turn one of them on the other one, do you reconsider it, or do you say that I could take how hot this is and make it hotter by having these guys continue to work with each other, just not as friends?
Starting point is 02:03:05 Without knowing what their plot is, and I mean, this could be the greatest buildup to the worst idea ever, or it could be a great buildup to a, wow, that was a great idea. But without knowing what that is, it's hard to say definitely, but I would at least have the thought of, you know, they've already booked the match in Wembley. So it seems like they're going to have to do something. But I would have had the thought at this point, God damn, if I can still do the same thing in three months,
Starting point is 02:03:41 maybe I don't need to do it right now. Because once that you've, unless again, they've mastered an intricate bloodline-like scenario where they can pull the trigger on the next thing and still leave questions and still, you know, people want to see what's going to happen next or they've answered everything and that is what it is, you know, I might try to stretch it out a little bit. But now they book, if they book the match and what they're doing in the match brings this to a conclusion, then they're, they can't do an hour,
Starting point is 02:04:22 Broadway and shake hands, so somebody's going to have to do something. Or is it a deal where fucking, they have a great match, and then Roddy's not happy with MJF, so he comes out and tries to fuck MJF and Adam super kicks Roddy and MJF schoolboys at him because he didn't see that and one, two, three, and then they still shake hands. I don't fucking know. Kyle O'Reilly shows up wearing his
Starting point is 02:04:49 Vib from the Young One's outfit that he was wearing in NXT. That way he'll fit in with the British fans and he does something to help or hurt someone. Well, but then, yeah, I don't know. Bobby Fish is outside selling autographs. Bobby Fish can't get in the country, I don't think. But anyway, it's going to be interesting,
Starting point is 02:05:12 and I think that's why everybody's interested. But I would, if I could think about it, I'd try to stretch this out a little bit longer, but they may be headed toward a drop dead date. Well, that was the rate. That was. Those were the ratings for AEW dynamite. And of course, we'll talk about collision after we travel through time a little bit later on. Anyway, I guess we should talk about some of the wrestling now, shouldn't we? Can we talk more about Colin Thompson? No, we got to talk about other weasels. The, we covered on the drive-through, the dynamite
Starting point is 02:05:47 episode for Wednesday night, August the 9th. But as we recorded that, God, it seems like it's two months ago. It was like four days ago. They didn't have the ratings out. Well, now the ratings have come out. And we were again saying that, boy, howdy, I mean, there's a lot of people out there with tolerance for watching whatever the fuck. Because you can't imagine the rating would be seven for some of these shows.
Starting point is 02:06:15 But there were certain points in this program where we anticipated a cliff being followed. off up. And so now we get to go over it and find out where that came, if it came, and who was responsible. Brian, do you have the documentation there? I have the documentation here. AEW Dynamite for August 9th on TBS. On average was viewed by 846,000 viewers. And I, they, they do 800 to something thousand. They'll hot shot a program like blood and guts or war games, whatever they're doing.
Starting point is 02:06:51 and they'll get up to nine and then the next week they'll drop back into the high eights and then they're back where they started from. Is this, again, the range that we can expect going hitherto for forever? Possibly. And again, you know, with declining viewers
Starting point is 02:07:08 on traditional television and going to the internet or other means, it definitely is going to be a declining number, I would think, but also I think a story that maybe we should look at, maybe on the drive-through, not today. NXT. The last four weeks,
Starting point is 02:07:20 I think they had Ria Ripley and Dominic Mysterio on the show, and they've been almost, what, just over 700,000 every single week. Well, and those were the averages, the Dominic title win, I believe it was that one, got 800, basically this viewership on Wednesday night, got 800 and something thousand for the title match of NXT that week. So they're not head-to-head, and of course,
Starting point is 02:07:43 main roster people are being sent down there, but all of a sudden, NXT is popping the ratings while Dynamite's doing dynamite things. But... A.W. Dynamite on TBS, August 9, 2023. These were compiled by Russellnomics. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. The Jericho Appreciation Society live breakup with Chris Jericho and an ad break. 892,000 viewers. Okay. We've got to, that's, uh, I don't, they used to start much higher, but that's been going off,
Starting point is 02:08:17 or that's been going on. It's been a while. It's been a while. It's not been going on. for a while, that's what I'm trying to say. But that's a healthy number. Yeah, they're not coming a million out of Big Bang theory anymore like they used to. Well, I guess the 47th airing of each Big Bang episode has something to do with it. And considering they're awful, the first airing, who knows about the 47th, but quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m., the Chris Jericho, Don Callis, backstage promo, and the Hardy Boys versus the Hardly Boys, with Picture and Picture, 8303.
Starting point is 02:08:51 thousand viewers. Ouch. Okay. So was it the Jericho Society segment that just made people go, ah, fuck, let's just get out of this. Or did they have to wait to see that they were going to be seeing the Hardee's and Hardleys?
Starting point is 02:09:09 And then they said, ah, fuck. Either way, 53,000 people said Sionara. The Hardys don't mean much anymore. And the bucks have never, I mean, especially right now, Kenny Omega could pop a number with the right an opponent or even an offbeat opponent. The Bucks are driving away viewers every time we see that.
Starting point is 02:09:28 Unless they're involved in like a John Moxley cage match, that goes five segments. They're losing viewers. Quarter three, 8.30 to 8.45 p.m. The FTR confrontation with the young bucks. Adam Cole, just as Adam Cole, I don't know what he did. Adam Cole, oh, excuse me, Adam Cole MJF video, an ad break, and Blackpool combat Club's backstage promo, 805,000 viewers. Ouch.
Starting point is 02:09:59 Now, they got to go back up according to the average number, but now they've lost 87,000 people from the start of the program in only the first 45 minutes. Well, there's a reason stars of the past are still around today. Quarter four, Jack Perry versus Rob Van Dam with Picture and Picture, as well as a Lucha Brothers Backstage Promo, 861,000 viewers. Okay, well, I think we can attribute that extra 56,000 people to the Lucha Brothers backstage promo. Maybe, maybe that.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Rob Van Damme hadn't been on national TV at a while. Boom, there we go. I can see that happening. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, and this story continues this week, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The Adam Cole, MJF, in-ring promo with Roger Strong coming out to Yves. at them, and the Blackpool Combat Club entrance through picture and picture ads, 889,000 viewers, which is the high point, as well as the high point in the key demo, 425,000 viewers. No, it's 3,000 below where they started.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Oh, shit, you're right. It's not the high point quarter, but it may be the high point of the demo. It's the high point of the demo by far. But once again, let's just stop real quick. Every week, MJF and Cole, wherever they are, collision, dynamite, they're pop. And quite honestly, the 861 and quarter four can partially be attributed probably to people tuning in, what, six, seven, eight minutes early for the top of the hour where they would see and probably figured they'd see MJF and Adam Cole.
Starting point is 02:11:36 Quarter six, nine fifteen and nine thirty p.m. The Lucha Brothers versus Claudio Castignoli and John Moxley with picture and picture, 844,000 viewers. And as soon as MJF and Kohler finished, we have dropped 44,000, 45,000. Quarter 7, 930 to 945 p.m. The finish of the previous match, the post-match, the Kenny Omega being confronted by Alex Marvez backstage, the ad break, and then swerve Strickland and his crew being confronted by Darby Allen and Sting, 850,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:12:16 Good Lord. Okay, that surprises me because they picked up an extra 6,000 for a Poperi quarter, but what was the main event? I've forgotten. That's not a good sign. So were they tuning in early for the main event? Quarter eight, the main event, 945 to 10 p.m. An ad break, followed by Hikaru Shita versus Anna J. Okay, I remember that. With picture and picture, 790,000 viewers. Well, and boy, they looked out because that wasn't long enough where more people had the chance to change the channel.
Starting point is 02:12:52 But yeah, that's where I re but looking at it, I can't believe that the third quarter hour did only 15,000 people more than the last segment there. Because one would have figured that they, well, maybe people were just asleep on the couch at that point. If this show didn't have MJF and Adam Cole, it would be a straight nose dive. from the beginning to the end? Yeah, pretty much. And it's been like that several weeks in a row now. So whatever we want to say about the goofiness and I don't like the bro segments,
Starting point is 02:13:25 I like the in-ring stuff, either the in-ring promos, mostly, or the matches minus the dance segment. Yeah. But whatever we say, that is resonating with the AEW fans more than anything else company-wide right now. What do you think it says about the AEW talent roster,
Starting point is 02:13:43 the AEW office staff, the AEW fans, every affiliated party around AEW that the biggest things that resonate with those people are, are you going to be my friend or are you going to be his friend? I want you to be my friend, but you can't like him instead of me. It's always that, isn't it? And I mean, I know wrestling has always been about friends betraying each other and back,
Starting point is 02:14:13 stabbing and jealousy or whatever, but it seemed like it was, nobody ever complained about, you were my friend, just taking it to these simplistic, childish components. Well, Jimmy Valiant was kind of upset at Pez, now that you think about it. That's true. I mean, they were friends, they were friends. They were friends. And then suddenly Pez became Shaska and Poggy got his head shaved. If the young Bucks and Adam Page, I'm not even going to leave a
Starting point is 02:14:43 Omega out of this. If they had been booked by someone other than themselves from the beginning of AEW, and if we haven't had four plus years of a fucking rack store cowboy, having emotional issues and worrying about who his friends are and the bucks worrying about whose friends, every single thing they do is about who's friends with who, that's why people think it's all stupid. Because they're stupid. But yeah, we get way too much of that. Never like, you tried to fuck my wife. You want to make something realistic nowadays? You fucking. Instagram something on my wife. Nothing like that.
Starting point is 02:15:17 Instead, it's like, oh, you don't want to hang out with us anymore. What do? Remember when Paige took the job guys on a ride on his new lawnmower? Yeah. That helped. But he's trying to have a career to fall back on. As a landscaper?
Starting point is 02:15:36 As a landscaper. I would hire him. His pain warming only has its seasons. Anyway, that was died. It sure was. It sure was. All righty, well, I guess we ought to move forward from the good old days where the business depended on ticket sales and people being interested and the money you made to modern times
Starting point is 02:15:58 where it's all about the ratings, Brian. It's all about the TV viewership. It's all about the metrics. It's all about the key demo. And AEW perpetrated a nightmarish dream of the Welsh rare between. Feend on last Wednesday's program. Google it, kids. It'll be hilarious if you fucking understand it. If you have any context on that line.
Starting point is 02:16:23 It was bad. It was fucking Timothy Leary guest book this edition. And we were wondering, you and I, where the cliff was going to come that people said, I've had all I can stands, I can't stands no more, because there was so many opportunities. So now the time has come. We have the documentation from Thursday. Herald the third over at Russell Economics or whatever. WrestleMania, I believe, is the name. Well, he, actually, he was a home economics teacher
Starting point is 02:16:53 before he switched professions. Thurston was. That's not, his name's not even, well, his name is Thurston, but, uh, whatever. Well, see, then don't try to call this guy by some other name that he doesn't have, because that would be disrespectful. So what did Thurston have to say about the ratings for dynamite last Wednesday night, which was the 16th or so? AEW Dynamite August 16th on TBS was watched by 8774 viewers on average.
Starting point is 02:17:20 Excuse me. 874,000 viewers on average. Okay. Again, they're in the range they've been in. It's a fucking gift. I don't know how they can coerce people to watch this fucking thing, the state of it. But where did they start and where'd they fail? Well, they started with this Windsor McKay-produced edition of AEW Dynamite.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Little Nemo! That's right, quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m., Orange Cassidy versus Wheeler Yuda with picture-and-picture ads. Christ. 946,000 viewers. All right, well, that's their starting point. Quarter two, 815-8.30 p.m. the post-match with the Blackpool Combat Club beat down, and then the best friends,
Starting point is 02:18:16 and then the Lucha Brothers, and then Eddie Kingston, all run in. Kenny Omega sit down and interview with Jim Ross, followed by his attack, by Don Callis and the Bullet Club Gold and Takesha. Followed by Jim Ross, if he had heat vision, all of them would have burst into flames. Followed by Adam Page, outside of the hospital.
Starting point is 02:18:38 Followed by Don Callis, Chris Jericho starting their live promo, 943,000 viewers. Jesus Christ, they stuck around through all of that, eh? Good Lord, the patience that these people have. A? A? Quarter three was A, 30 to 845 p.m.
Starting point is 02:19:02 The continuation of Don Callis and Chris Jericho's dramatic oil painting segment. the Jack Perry video, and Darby Allen and Nick Wayne versus the Gates of Agony, they're each a gate, I guess. Did they swing both ways? 943,000 viewers. Wait a minute, what? They're not losing anything for this show, for these nobodies, for this Drek, this
Starting point is 02:19:32 effluvia? How can this be? Was the Nielsen people, were they stuck? on freeze frame? I was going to tune out, but Cash Wheeler stuck a gun in my face. Hey, come on now. That's not right. He said, you better watch this show. Quarter four. It was just a
Starting point is 02:19:51 white male with a beard for all you know. It was just some bearded white guy. 8.45 to 9 p.m. The final two minutes of Nick Wayne and Darby Allen versus the Gates of Agony. The postmatch with Swarves Strickland, A.R. Fox. and sting
Starting point is 02:20:09 the MJF Adam Cole Kangaroo Outback Steakhouse segment with Tony Kahn making an appearance and then the beginning of the Adam Cole MJF live promo in the ring Now they usually do people stick or come back for MJF and Adam Cole what happened here?
Starting point is 02:20:30 903,000 viewers Ooh, okay, they lost 40. Is that the first time that MJF and Cole have lost? instead of gaining or at least keeping? It is the first time, I believe, in quite a while. Now, they did 434 in the key demo, which is a little bit off the high, which was quarter two. You have to wonder how much of the craziness on the show may have run anyone off. Well, I was about to say there was a lot of provocation before this for people to leave, but still, that's a...
Starting point is 02:21:00 I can't believe they've only lost 43,000 people since the show started for the first hour. That could be a record for AEW. Well, get ready for the big 9 o'clock hour. Quarter 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The continuation of Adam Cullen MJF's live promo, they get attacked by Aussie Open, and Chris Jericho licks his blood in the back. 898,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:21:27 Okay, they've stayed mostly flat. That's normal fluctuation. But the average, they have not even gone down to the average yet so what is left to happen in the next 45 minutes the fun begins okay quarter six nine fifteen to nine thirty p.m. I can't even say this without smiling. Jeff Hardy versus Jeff Jarrett the Texas chainsaw massacre match. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 02:21:59 Through picture and picture and an ad break, 822,000 viewers. Okay, 77,000 people said, oh, this is too much. And they got a $100,000 sponsorship for the video game or movie or whatever the fucking thing is these days. The $100,000 is almost a dollar per person that tuned out in some fashion is what I'm trying to say. Well, quarter seven, let's see if the trend continues, 930 to 9.45 p.m. the bunny versus Britt Baker Oh boy With picture and picture
Starting point is 02:22:37 An acclaimed video And the acclaimed or attack by the House of Black Who Steal Boots I believe this time The Boots 800,000 viewers 22,000 more So now we're down 146,000 from the start of the program
Starting point is 02:22:56 But what was the main event? I can't even remember now The main event quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. An ad break, followed by the Young Bucks versus the guns. That's right. With picture and picture and a postmatch featuring Bullet Club gold and FTR. 738,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:23:23 62,000 more people said all we've got left is the Buccaroos fuck this. And it was the low point in the key demo as well, 358,000 viewers. point by far. And the low point in everything. And they lost 208,000 people from the start of the thing, which is of 946, 208, 460. What does that? 22, 23% of the audience from start to finish. Ooh, glad they got those new contracts, the Buccaneers for that high salary Tony's paying them because they're doing these kind of numbers. And that was the buildup to all in. I mean, that was FTR confronting them in the ring. That's the build-up to the pay-per-view,
Starting point is 02:24:10 which is right around the corner, and I got the lowest amount of viewers the entire show. Did it deserve to have any more viewers? No, but I don't know. The formatting of this show certainly raises a lot of questions. I'll tell you what, the luck of the, the luck of fools that they held those numbers through that first hour,
Starting point is 02:24:31 because if they had done what they normally do, their average would have been even worse. Well, that was AEW Dynamite for August 16th, 2023. I think, hey, we're going to talk ratings, I believe. Oh, are we back on the air now? AEW Dynamite on TBS, August 23rd, 2023. Jim, the overall number. I'm going to write this down.
Starting point is 02:24:56 On TBS, AEW Dynamite was watched by 870,000 viewers on average. Is that within like what, two or three thousand? of the previous week. And it's the how, in a way, it's almost amazing that they're getting almost the exact same number
Starting point is 02:25:16 every week now. Number one, it's amazing because how do they talk 870,000 people even into starting this program? And secondly, how just, does nobody even go on vacation anymore? It's the same number of people every fucking week.
Starting point is 02:25:33 Okay, 870,000. For this thing, that was, a fucking gift. But the question is, where'd they start and where'd they end up? Well, they started at 8 o'clock, 8 to 8 15 p.m., quarter one. Kenny Omega and the Youngbucks, it's not even a match. And the guns and Juice Robinson and Jay White and Takeshesta and FTR, all brawl all around, and MJF sit down interview with Renee Moxley Good, 9601,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:26:05 Geez, oh Pete, that's a bigger number than they've been starting with. Curiosity for Wembley Stadium, potentially? Why would, was there something interesting advertised for this program and they just didn't do it? Why would they get a good tune-in number? Who knows? What was on beforehand? How's the Big Bang doing these days? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Again, the big news in wrestling was Terry Funk coming into this, but I don't know how many people would tune-in just. to see if any mention was made at Terry Funk and they did have a graphic up on the screen. But quarter two, Jim, 815 to 8.30 p.m. John Moxley's entrance through picture and picture ads and John Moxley versus Ray Phoenix
Starting point is 02:26:52 once again with picture and picture 865,000 viewers. Ouch! So that is atypical and unlike the last few weeks, where again we said, you know, for the first hour or so, they were pretty static, pretty standard. And then they started dropping, but 100,000 in the first 15 minutes, not a good choice of a mess to have, you know, in your first opening segment. So they lost 96,000 to be precise.
Starting point is 02:27:26 How many fans did the Young Bucks drive off last week at the end of the show? They was about 200,000, wasn't it? Well, in that one quarter, it was, they were 200,000 lower than when they started. In one quarter it was six figures, but not... Yeah, I think it was pretty much similar to this. It was about 100,000 people, which is telling you... And also, I think with MJF, people... I think the viewership may appreciate the in-ring stuff
Starting point is 02:27:48 with a live audience more than the sit-down stuff. But that's just my two cents. Segment three or quarter three, 830 to 8.45 p.m. The post-match of Moxley v. Phoenix with the Blackpool Combat Club, Eddie Kingston, the best friends, Orange Cassidy, Ortiz, Mike Santana, Penta, then it's an ad break, and then Phoenix is loaded into the ambulance, and then a Sammy Guevara promo interrupted by the appreciators, 915,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:28:26 Holy shit. So you mean to tell me, that another 50,000 people came back just, they said, fuck it, let's just make sure that the, the buccaroos are not on anymore and it's safe to come back. Between the first segment being a mess and then segment two with all of the things that you mentioned being just, you know, Moxley and the rest of the Gaga.
Starting point is 02:29:00 Okay. So they bump back up 50,000. It's safe to go back in the pool. And by the way, these were compiled by WrestleMania. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. The Chris Jericho Will Osprey contract signing, an ad break, and the Adam Cole sit-down interview with Renee Moxley Good. 899,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:29:26 And they dropped back 16,000, not that major of a change, but not going in the right direction. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour. Darby Allen and Nick Wayne versus A.R. Fox and Swerve Strickland with picture and picture, 886,000 viewers. Again, just dropping 13,000,
Starting point is 02:29:50 not bad in and of itself, but now they're down 30,000 from the quarter three increase they got. And from their average, it looks like this is not telling a good tale for the last 45 minutes of the program. Quarter six, 915 to 9.30 p.m. The postmatch with Brian Cage, Christian Cage, hey, it's the Cage brothers. Luchosaurus, and that's it.
Starting point is 02:30:21 And then the Young Bucks FTR sit-down interview, an ad break, the Britt Baker, Tony Storm Hikaru Shita video, I forgot there was something like that in there. And a Ruby Soho inset, 855,000 viewers. Okay, so the Buccouros came back and people said, oh shit, we thought we were done with it, and here went another 31,000 people.
Starting point is 02:30:46 Now they've lost, they've lost 60,000 people in three quarters. And again, the average tells me that we've got further to fall. And I remind you, we also have a five-minute overrun, so we'll get to that as well. Quarter 7, 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. Ruby Soho versus Sky Blue, with picture and picture. The Roderick Strong and Kingdom promo. And then the acclaimed and the House of Black
Starting point is 02:31:17 have their confrontation leading to the return of Billy Gun. 848,000 viewers. You know, I'm not, I'm surprised that I'm not more surprised because they only lost another 7,000. That's staying remarkably consistent throughout the program at that level for this quality or lack thereof of a television show. Well, finally, the main event, quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m., with an overrun,
Starting point is 02:31:52 the Hardee's entrance and ad break, and then the Hardee's versus Aussie Open with picture and picture, 759,000 viewers. Huge. That's where it comes. Five minute overrun with MJF and Adam Cole coming out for the post-match, 776. So that was 90,000 people. That was 89.
Starting point is 02:32:19 On top of the... Jesus Christ. So I'm trying to do this math in my head. They started with a bigger number than normal. They managed to keep halfway consistent throughout the program and even gained a little bit in quarter three, even though it was a downward trend after that. But then people got to the last 15 minutes and said,
Starting point is 02:32:42 fuck it. And they ended up 202,000 down from where they started by the end of the two-hour time period, which is over 20% again. Because how much of that can you sit through? I am shocked and amazed that the second hour doesn't tank worse than it does
Starting point is 02:33:04 on these programs the last few weeks. And I guess we've figured out now that the AEW audience on Wednesday nights that can, that will be interested in this is somewhere around 900,000 and a few big bangers
Starting point is 02:33:21 are hanging on. But they're mostly at 800 and something through the program and then if the Buccaroos or something as lame as this or on the last segment or two, they're going to finish up in the 700s, and they've lost 20% of their audience. Or you go to Saturday night,
Starting point is 02:33:43 and they're not going to start with a big number, but they're probably going to hold the number that they've got, and sometimes they increase in the middle, depending on where punk is placed, but they don't, while they don't lose any views, and sometimes gain by the end of the program, they start out and generally finish up 300,000 below Wednesday night because the difference in Wednesday and Saturday.
Starting point is 02:34:12 So could God, somehow, some way you could take the talent rosters of collision and dynamite and the time slots, and you could get rid of half the shit and make the other half actually good if you tried hard enough, I bet. The question is, what part needs to go?
Starting point is 02:34:36 Well, that is a question we will answer. Not now. When? If we'll answer it, then that means that we know more than everybody else because nobody can figure that out. How do you fucking do something acceptable with, they've got,
Starting point is 02:34:54 they've got Drek and they've got talent. They've got attributes, and they've got detriments. There's good and bad. And if they could just do more of the good stuff and less of the bad stuff, they may be able to put something together on one night of the week that would please everybody,
Starting point is 02:35:12 that would get numbers, ratings, that would have actual legitimate talent having matches. But instead, they've got three weekly programs, one of which nobody's going to watch. The people that like Wednesday, and the people that are on that probably, don't want to watch Saturday and vice versa and nobody remembers that Friday
Starting point is 02:35:33 is even a thing still. So there you go. Travel us through some time so we can I can go back and crib up on Smackdown. Speaking of Moxley and speaking of A.W. Jim, we have the ratings.
Starting point is 02:35:49 These probably won't be as gracious and kind as Dave's were. These are from the Nielsen people, right? I believe that is who is still doing these. that's right, Nielsen's ratings for AEW Dynamite August 30th on TBS. Art Nielsen and his brother Stan, right? Not those Nielsen's.
Starting point is 02:36:08 This one, not this one, this show, this dynamite was watched. This one over here. This one was watched by 871,000 viewers. The same fucking people every week. It's becoming a run of a joke. It is the same number every, what are the, does it have the last, Do you have the column of the last five or six numbers or whatever? I would have to...
Starting point is 02:36:35 Well, don't do any work, but... Last week, the total viewership was 870,000 viewers. Okay, so they're growing by leaps and bounds. 870 to 871. Where did they start, and where did the Exodus begin this week? These are the ratings as compiled by Russellnomics. quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. John Moxley versus Commander, with picture and picture,
Starting point is 02:37:07 957,000 viewers. Wow, okay, and by the way, I have clarified the Big Bang Theory apparently is no longer doing the big numbers that it was doing, what, a year or two years ago or whenever the fuck it was, where they'd start with over a million people. Apparently, even the big bangers have seen those reruns enough times that the bloom is off the rose so that's why they're starting but still 957,000
Starting point is 02:37:36 ain't a bad number to start with but from their average I have a feeling it won't last quarter two 815 830 p.m. The Orange Cassidy backstage promo the Young Bucks FTR Bullet Club Gold backstage angle the Tony Storm backstage promo and Chris Jericho's live promo, the beginning of it, 913,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:38:05 So, as we suspected immediately, 44,000 people saw plumber and commander and said, all right, they're going to do this again. Quarter 3, 830 to 8.45 p.m. The continuation of Chris Jericho's promo, which is a confrontation with Sammy Gavara, of sorts. The John Moxley and, what are their names? I was going to say bullet club. Blackpool. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:38:30 Blackpools. The BBC. Their promo backstage, as well as Eddie Kingston versus Wheeler Udo with Picture and Picture, 925,000 viewers. That is surprising that people would come back for anything that you just mentioned. But, so they picked up 12 back. I think the Jericho Sammy thing may have gotten some people into it, but... At least it was in the ring.
Starting point is 02:38:55 That's right. At least it wasn't just shit going on. in the back. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. The continuation of Kingston versus Yuda, the MJF Adam Cole backstage locker room promo, an ad break, Sammy Guevara and Don Callis' backstage confrontation,
Starting point is 02:39:14 and the beginning of Adam Cole, having a confrontation with Roddy Strong, Mike Bennett, and Matt Taven, 909,000 viewers. And the 12,000 they picked up, and three more thousand. and said fuck it. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour,
Starting point is 02:39:31 9 to 9.15 p.m. Continuation of Adam Cole's confrontation with Strong Bennett and Taven. Penta El Zero Mieto's backstage promo. Emmy Sakura, Marina Shafir, and Nila Rose, versus Britt Baker,
Starting point is 02:39:48 Hikaru Shita and Chris Statlander. Ding, ding, ding, I think we found the cliff. With picture and picture, 910,000, thousand viewers. What? Well, again, it's the continuation of the Adam Cole angle. All right, okay, I see. So they stayed to see what the fuck that was all about. And then they saw the girls. So what happens next?
Starting point is 02:40:12 Quarter six, nine, fifteen, and nine thirty p.m. The continuation of Sakura, Shafir, and Rose versus Baker, Shita, and Statlander. The post-match with Ruby Soho. the Kinosukeke-Donkawa's backstage promo, an ad break, and the beginning, is it the beginning or the whole thing? The whole thing of the acclaimed and Billy Guns ribbon-cutting ceremony for their new
Starting point is 02:40:37 scissor-themed championship belts, 828,000 viewers. Okay, so they, that's 72,000, 82,000 decided that women's six-man was not to be tolerated. Well, not woman's six-man. man, six woman. Oh, that's right. Well, the six-man-contracted champions in their women? You get it, well?
Starting point is 02:41:00 Quarter seven, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The entrances with picture and picture for Orange Cassidy versus Penta Elzerro Mieto, and then there was an ad break, 763,000 viewers. Okay, now it makes sense, because, let's face it, they got a gift that they were able to stay above 900,000 people for this rotten, stink, and smelly program that they aired for an entire hour
Starting point is 02:41:30 before people smartened up that this is all we're going to get. We ain't going to get nothing else but this. And then in the final hour, they started at 910,000, went to 828,000, went to 763,000. And now that they've got a good whiff of pockets,
Starting point is 02:41:49 where did they go in the last quarter? The final quarter plus there's an overrun. 9.45 to 10 p.m. Orange Cassidy versus Penta Elzerra Mieto, with picture and picture, and Orange Cassidy's live promo. He did a promo? Oh, yeah. Oh, good Lord. 769,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:42:10 With an overrun of 784 for the one minute of John Moxley and Orange Cassidy squaring off. Yeah, we don't buy that. I can't believe that it didn't drop in the final quarter, but I guess maybe somebody was tuning in thinking, certainly to God, this is not the main event, there's going to be something else going on. You know, with WrestleMania, when they do the ratings, they have a bar that shows the 90-day trend,
Starting point is 02:42:36 and it's starting to show a little bit more effect each time you see it for the big drop-off that happens at 9-15, and it goes to the end of the show. I mean, this is the last, I mean, we said they've been having around the same number, last few weeks they've been having the same drop-off. Yeah. Around that period of time, right after-200,000.
Starting point is 02:42:54 Yeah. This was, well, this was, hold on, this was only 188,000. Last week it was 200-something,000. But that's, yeah, they start with an audience they're handed, and those people slowly leave, not, I will give them credit for this. Over the last three weeks or so, they've kept up the first hour remarkably well for what's been presented and maybe like you said that's they're waiting once they determine what mjf and adam
Starting point is 02:43:26 cole's involvement is going to be then they're they're done but every week they lose between 20 and 25% of the audience they start with by the end of the program which is an anomaly from every other wrestling program that we're aware of right even collision it's not doing as well on Saturday night, but they keep the audience they get to begin with. They keep the audience that's there. You know, the issue, too, is with this women's six-person match, the trios match, I guess it was the six-man-women's match? The six-man-woman's match.
Starting point is 02:44:00 There's no way you could write that on paper and not think that would cause people to say, you know, I've seen enough, I'll turn the channel. There's lots of baseball on. There's lots of other things that... He wrote down Moxley versus Commander and he wrote down Pockets versus Pindhouse and didn't think the same thing. How about the fact that the international champion had to defeat Penta to get the opportunity to defend this championship against Moxley?
Starting point is 02:44:29 Isn't that kind of backwards booking? No, they think it's a privilege to get in a ring with the plumber. Because then they're going to look so much better because even pockets next to the plumber looks like a human being. Those were the AEW Dynamite ratings for this past week. What did the viewers think of this program? Because as I said earlier, I still don't know what the fucking ratings were, but I assume they had to be abysmal.
Starting point is 02:44:59 Can you help me out on this? Yeah, last week's AEW Dynamite ratings from TBS. And this was for September, whatever the fuck? September whatever the fuck, known as September 6th in the calendar, the Gregorian calendar. Those people again? September 6th, AEW Dynamite was watched by 887,000 viewers on average.
Starting point is 02:45:22 Good Lord. They, I'll tell you what, now whatever season that was conflicting with them is over, they're keeping this audience, at least on average, 800 and something thousand every week. I don't see how,
Starting point is 02:45:41 these fucking programs. But go ahead. Well, quarter one, and these were compiled by Ressalonomics, 8 to 8.15 p.m., Orange Cassidy's live promo, and John Moxley versus A.R. Fox threw an ad break.
Starting point is 02:46:00 982,000 viewers. Good. Okay, I see what helped the average is that's a significantly larger lead-in than they've been getting lately, isn't it? I think that may be... They haven't been close to a million in a while. No, that's the largest number in a while, and I'm looking at the trend line here that
Starting point is 02:46:16 Resslemics has, and it's significantly above that. But quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m., the finish of Moxley v. A.R. Fox. The postmatch with Darby Allen, Nick Wayne, Christian Cage, Luchessaurus, and an ad break. Chris Statlander versus Emmy Sakura. Oh, good Lord. And Roderick Strong and the Kingdom's Therapy Video. 889,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:46:43 Jeez, okay. Almost 100,000, 93,000 said... So a Silver Dome full of fans turned off the show. Quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m. Aussie Open versus Chris Jericho and Sammy Guevara with picture and picture ads and the post-match angle. 938,000 viewers. Okay, now do you think...
Starting point is 02:47:14 And the high point in the key demo, 440,000. Do you think even their fans now are starting to just pick and choose? Like, let me check back every 15 minutes or whatever. That's an awful big fluctuation for those numbers. I think there are fans who wait for an MJF segment. And I think the ratings have shown that. That there are fans who kind of are in and out.
Starting point is 02:47:37 and then once MJF is doing an angle or a promo against someone, they stay for a while, and then they get driven away. We've seen that, though, in the ratings multiple times. Quarter four. Quarter four. 8.45 to 9 p.m., Ricky Stark's backstage promo, an ad break, Don Callis' backstage promo, and the beginning of the MJF Samoa Joe Live promo, 912,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:48:07 All righty, so that is the end of the first hour, and MJF's just gotten a ring. Do we go up or do we go down? Well, the big 9 o'clock hour, quarter 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m., the MJF Samoa Joe live promo and confrontation, an angle with Adam Cole running out, and an ad break, 949,000 viewers. Whoa, so they popped up another 37,000, and that is the second high, quarter so far of the show next to the start. That's right.
Starting point is 02:48:43 Quarter six, 915 and 9.30 p.m. Roderick Strong versus Trent Barretta with picture and picture ads. The post-match with the Kingdom. Tony Storm's backstage promo and an ad break. 845,000 viewers. Ouch. Okay. And then, there you go.
Starting point is 02:49:04 104,000 people said we've seen MJF. Time to go. Quarter 7. 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. The Adam Page, swerve Strickland, live promo, and confrontation with the mobile embassy running out. You'd have to have been a hearty soul to fucking sit through that whole thing. Hardy souls over a catering. 858,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:49:28 Sot of a gun! Apparently there was 13,000 extra hardy souls. Well, then this does not bode... tremendously well for the final 15 minutes of the program as I'm looking at this average. And there's also a two-minute overrun. I'll give you that separately. But here we go, 945 to 10 p.m. Quarter 8. Darby Allen versus Nick Wayne with picture and picture ads twice. 730,000 viewers. Ew.
Starting point is 02:49:59 With an overrun of 835 for two minutes. So I don't know how much that can really be looked at. So that's 128,000. That's one of the bigger one-quarter drives. You had to know because why would anybody want to see that even if they like those guys? If they like them, why they want to see them fight each other? And then it was the shits.
Starting point is 02:50:20 But so they were down 252,000 from the start of the program. And I think that may be a new record percentage-wise because that's, what, 26, 26? of the initial audience was not there at the end. I would think if you were going to do the little buddy angle. Usually it means you introduce the character on TV. People start to get to know them.
Starting point is 02:50:46 They associate that person with the star they're aligned with because they've been there a while. They have fans. Right. Start to maybe do some tag matches. Then he finally gets the big singles opportunity against someone and he gets a win. Not you do all that and he gets his big singles opportunity against his buddy. acts like a dick in the match
Starting point is 02:51:05 and then all is forgiven and they move on as a team. Like, why do that? Like, there's so many weird, like, Dax Harwood, they keep putting him in these singles matches and he loses and you know he's gonna lose. He's won one singles match.
Starting point is 02:51:20 It was against Cash Wheeler. Like, it's just the weirdest booking decisions when it comes to what to do with people that are a team or friends are aligned with each other. Nick Wayne, despite what AEW thinks internally or the most hardcore fans think, he's not yet established. You're just doing that. So when you put him in that spot, you're kind of setting yourself up for failure.
Starting point is 02:51:46 Let's go back to the dynamite for a second, because they did a rating. We got to put them over. We got them some applause. They actually got over 900,000 for the first time in ages, ages and eons with their big Arthur Ashe Stadium extravaganza. and this time they had a main event that people actually would want to see and be interested in. So I'm wondering, did they keep their audience through the rest of this fiasco to get there? Or did it do the same thing as it does every week when they have the gymnast, the play wrestlers,
Starting point is 02:52:22 the trampoline cowboys, and the kookamonga kids in the last spot? Well, this week's AEW Dynamite, September 20th on TBS, Grand Slam did 984,000 viewers on average. So they picked up pretty much exactly
Starting point is 02:52:40 100,000 people from where they've been stuck at the last several weeks. How did they make the most of it? These were compiled by WrestleMania 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Claudia Ocastignolli
Starting point is 02:52:55 versus Eddie Kingston with picture and picture 982,000 viewers. Okay, in this case, then it sounds to me like they may be going to keep some audience. Segment 2, 815, 8.30 p.m. The continuation of Kingston versus Castignoli, the post-match, the kingdom Roddy Strong Adam Cole Hospital segment. Should that have been later in the show? Did they mess up the order of the things?
Starting point is 02:53:24 Should that have been after Cole left MJF? Well, whatever. an ad break in Christian Cage's backstage promo, 1,4,000 viewers. Jeez, okay, they picked up 22,000 in the second quarter. That usually does not happen, and that's the first time they've seen seven figures in a while. Quarter of three, 830 to 845 p.m.
Starting point is 02:53:49 Chris Jericho versus Sammy Guevara with Picture and Picture, 989,000 viewers. And 11, 15,000. Normal fluctuation at this point. It's pretty much the same audience. Segment 4, quarter 4, excuse me, 8.45 to 9 p.m. The continuation of Jericho versus Guevara with the post-match heel turn and Don Callis. The MJF backstage promo, an ad break, and the start of John Moxley v. Phoenix. One million, 17,000 viewers. Okay, so now 11, $28,000.
Starting point is 02:54:28 So they have been in a range of 18, $35,000 for the entire first hour. That's very good for AEW and against normal trends. The big 9 o'clock hour, quarter five, 9 to 9.15 p.m. Moxley v. Phoenix continued, Felix. It is Phoenix. Excuse me. You've got me confused. Boxley versus Phoenix continued
Starting point is 02:54:57 I know what his name is With picture and picture And Samoa Joe's backstage promo And an ad break 960,000 viewers Okay, that's where They tuned in maybe the extra ones At the top of the hour
Starting point is 02:55:13 And they saw enough of the plumber And they said, well 57,000 of us will take off But there's the option to come back For the main event that we might want to see And this is usually where everything starts trending downwards. Quarter six,
Starting point is 02:55:29 9.15 and 9.30 p.m. The kingdom, the righteous video. That's what it says. The kingdom. Oh, I guess the kingdom is, you know, when you call the other team the righteous and the other one's the kingdom. You can't tell what's going.
Starting point is 02:55:41 It just says, the kingdom, the righteous. The kingdom video. The good, the bad, and the ugly. The righteous video. Soraya versus Tony Storm with picture and picture and the post match, 938,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:55:56 Not as bad as it could have been. Only another 22,000, and it's the girl spot, and it's the death spot in the normal program where they start leaving. Quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m. It says video. I don't know what the video is, but video, ad break, and MJF versus Samoa Joe, 954,000 viewers. And there they get 16,000 back and hopefully can finish strong. The majority of, well, the entirety of the last quarter hour was all them.
Starting point is 02:56:32 So what did we finish up at? And we have a little bit of an overrun, and this may be an example where we should look at the overrun here. Because I think it was about five minutes, wasn't it? It's a four-minute overrun, plus, as this is going up, the key demo is going up. But anyway, quarter eight, 945 to 10 p.m., the continuation of Samoa, versus MJF, with picture in picture, 1 million... 14,000 viewers, 489,000 in the key demo, the high point, not counting the four-minute overrun, which is 1,048,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:57:10 Son of it, so... And because of the trend upwards, that's not one of these examples of people just tuning in for the next show, I don't think. Yeah. It's not just Wednesday night. It's what they put on on Wednesday night. The 200,000 viewers or more don't have to bail out on Wednesday night. You just got to put a match in the main event spot that they actually want to see
Starting point is 02:57:35 instead of the self-indulgent EVPs and the flippers and floppers. And they've seen an entire program of that horseshit. This time there was a match that was a destination that they wanted to see. they knew it was going to be good. They didn't know what was going to happen. And they were interested, and not only did they hold the audience, but for the first time ever, or certainly in recent memory on a Wednesday night,
Starting point is 02:58:06 they had more people at the end of the show than they did at the start. So they ought to be kissing MJF and Samoa Joe's asses. They may have done a better job of promoting Grand Slam than they have anything else in a while, especially, like I said, I can only base the local media stuff based on what I've seen, and MJF was all over the place,
Starting point is 02:58:26 but that wouldn't mean an extra few thousand, 100,000 people watching a TV show. Well, actually, think about this, the size of the New York market, if he instigated 5,000 people with the last minute publicity to come and buy a ticket to go to the event in person, all those people that saw it,
Starting point is 02:58:47 it wasn't either like, I'm going to go buy a ticket and go in person, or I don't give a shit about this and I never want to think about it again. They may have said, well, fuck, I'll just watch it on TV. You could, 40 or 50,000 viewers in the New York television market with those numbers is not a goddamn significant portion of the audience. So that could have been part of the issue. Should MJF insist on being the highest paid person in that company?
Starting point is 02:59:16 Now the punk's gone, he should. Seriously. Is there anyone else who should be in the conversation? I don't see who. You've got an unprofessional fucking idiot that gets dropped on his head and drops unscheduled belts and goes to rehab at various points in time and flips fingers on your show and says, fuck, puts fuck on his shirt, looks like a piece of shit and can't work, is a joke. Or you got Jericho, who's nearing 60.
Starting point is 02:59:48 He's closer to 60 than he is to 40. isn't he? Well, yeah, I guess so. Okay. Math don't lie, baby. And where you got MJF? And if I'm WWE, MJF's the one guy in that company I want more than anyone else. I want him more than a sick man
Starting point is 03:00:06 wants penicillin because he's young and you've got all that time and he doesn't have to be a wrestler. And in the WWE, it's more important than anywhere else that you have all the outside the ring skills. He could be an announcer. He could be a manager.
Starting point is 03:00:24 He could be a fucking personality. He could be a goddamn movie thaw. He could be the Monroe's calling me to get paid. All right. Well, with that, I guess we can keep going or we can jump in the time machine. It's up to you. I think you better jump in the time machine, Stew.
Starting point is 03:00:42 Did anybody watch that program that we talked about here a few minutes ago on Wednesday night, the AEW Dynamite? Anybody watch it this week? Oh, yeah, a bunch of people. watched it. AEW Dynamite on September 27th was watched by 855,000 viewers. So have they got the exact same people every week chained to their Barka loungers? It's the same number
Starting point is 03:01:06 everywhere and then they get the extra 100,000 if they do the big spectacular event at a stadium. It's the same thing every week. That it is. Well, somewhat the same thing. But I mean there used to be variation fluctuation. Smackdown is going from 2.1 million to 2.7 or 8 million, depending on the rock or Sina and other programs
Starting point is 03:01:33 fluctuate from week to week. They're right there. All right, go ahead. Let's try to do this. And again, remember, I'm under the weather, so I'm going to do my best to actually read any of this. 8 to 8, 15 p.m. Segment 1, quarter 1. I'm already messing up.
Starting point is 03:01:50 Ray Phoenix versus Jeff Jarrett with picture and picture. Obviously they were messing up too. Yeah. 923,000 euros. Okay. Starting out like that, unless they go drastically upwards, they shouldn't lose an incredible amount,
Starting point is 03:02:11 according to their average. Go ahead. Quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m., the MJF Adam Cole Big Show boat segment. an ad break, Kala, Sammy, and Takesha live promo with Tokyo footage, and Ricky Starks, We Are You to confrontation, 843,000 viewers. Ouch, okay, so they got to go back up, they just didn't like what they saw there,
Starting point is 03:02:40 80,000 people in the first 15 minutes. Go ahead. Quarter 3, 830 to 8.45 p.m. Nick Jackson versus Brian Cage versus Claudio Castignoli with picture and picture and a video for the righteous 97,000 viewers. Okay, so should the people in quarter two
Starting point is 03:03:05 take that personally? Fuck that. We'll come back in 15 minutes. I think quarter two is usually a reflection of quarter one. And I think that's a large part of it because MJF usually doesn't drag things down even if he's doing his comedy segments. But quarter four, 8.45 to 9 p.m., an ad break, and MJF and Adam Cole and Roddy Strong's live promo, going into MJF and Jay White beginning their live promo,
Starting point is 03:03:35 9404,000 viewers. Okay, so again, so far the lowest rated quarter hour has been the comedy buddy video they did, rather than their live appearance, MJF and Adam Cole. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. Continuation of MJF and Adam Cole, Adam Cole, MJF and J. White's live promo, as well as the Christian Darby Allen promo with Jim Ross in the back.
Starting point is 03:04:06 You didn't even mention that one. 943,000 viewers. Holy shit. Well, there you go. The magic. And they were talking and talking and talking. So people are just going to wait to see what MGF is going to do, apparently. That's what it seems like, and then we'll see what they do after that.
Starting point is 03:04:30 I was about to say, now we appear to be headed for the precipice with these numbers. Quarter six, nine, fifteen, and nine-thirty p.m. Orange Cassidy versus Austin Gunn versus Matt Jackson versus Penta Elzeromieto. we may have found the precipice with picture and picture twice 813,000 viewers Ouch 130,000 people
Starting point is 03:04:57 said okay, we're done here, check please Yeah, and also by the way quarter five, the high point, that was also the high point in the key demo and then that dropped off a bit going into this quarter but quarter seven 930 to 945 p.m. an ad break
Starting point is 03:05:14 Julia Hart versus Willow Nightingale with Picture and Picture and the postmatch angle with Chris Statlander 759,000 viewers youch, okay, there went another 54, so that means in, from quarter 5 to quarter 7, they lost
Starting point is 03:05:33 184,000 people. And finally, quarter 8, and by the way, I should mention these were compiled by Russell Nome, quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. An ad break, and the Swarbr Strickland Adam Page contract signing, 753,000 viewers. Oh, and 6,000 more.
Starting point is 03:05:58 So, basic, 190,000, they lost, if we're 6,8, they lost 21, 22% of what they started with. And if you want to go with the high point, which was MJF in quarter five, they lost goddamn almost 25% of the audience from quarter five to quarter eight. Oh, well, there you have it. Oh, there you have it. AEW. Dynamics. But anyway, speaking of who watched it, who didn't,
Starting point is 03:06:41 before we close the chapter on the low point in dynamite TV history yes and the apologists were already saying well it would have done a better number if it hadn't been all for the problems the question is of the people who did find the program through all of that and having the biggest star
Starting point is 03:07:04 they've signed in the past couple of years in the main event or in the last spot did they keep the audience this one? week, whatever audience they were able to get. Well, this past week's show AEW Dynamite on TBS, October 4th, 2023, on average, was watched by 800,000 viewers. Even. Even.
Starting point is 03:07:27 Well, okay, that's down 50 to 75,000 from what they've been doing every week, and they had extra 100,000 for their Arthur Ash episode a few weeks ago. but obviously this had some effect. The question is, what effect did the continuing developing rottenness have from where they started to where they ended up with the biggest angle they've done in a while
Starting point is 03:07:52 with the biggest star in actually quarter nine, fuck, Jesus. Yeah, and a few notes here, these were compiled by WrestleManiaomics, and this was the lowest total viewership since May 3rd for Dynamite. Also, for the record, there were major league baseball wild card games on ESPN and ESPN 2 head-to-head with dynamite.
Starting point is 03:08:14 Wild card, bitches. That's what I ended up watching, actually, and I went back to this after the fact because I couldn't do it anymore. So competition and also whatever these DVR issues are. And there was the all-night gas station opened down the road, and how can you compete with that? Hey, on Long Island, 24-hour bagels are the best. But quarter one, 8 to 8.8.15 p.m., Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, and Adam Copeland's back stage run-in, and the beginning of Ray Phoenix versus Nick Jackson with picture-in-picture 804,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:08:48 Okay, well, in that case, if they started there and they have that average, they had to go up. Was it a case of people finding the show that was mislisted or whatever, because they can't go much farther down or they wouldn't have that average? Well, quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m., the continuation of Ray Phoenix versus Nick Jackson, Adam Cole Roddy Strong in the kingdom's home video, or video at home, I guess, and Wardlow versus Griff Garrison, with an ad break, 788,000 viewers. Okay, so they lost 16,000, but they're still right in the pocket. And again, that was the segment with the audio issues.
Starting point is 03:09:33 quarter 3, 8.30 to 8.45 p.m. The Don Callis backstage angle. The replay with sound this time of the Cole Strong Kingdom video. And Billy Gunn and the acclaimed versus the butcher, the butcher, the butcher, and Kip Sabian with picture and picture. Oh, and the Tony Storm video. 715,000 viewers. Jesus, H. Christ. Okay. That can't be DVR related.
Starting point is 03:10:03 No. They lost 73,000 people in a quarter, and they're going to have to go up or this average doesn't work. So what's going on here? And again, that audio issue, no one wanted to see that video a second time, and then they played it. Quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. An ad break, a wrestle dream recap. And the beginning of the Juice Robinson and the Guns promo calling out MJF and the angle of Jay White. 796,000 viewers So that Adam Cole and Roddy video in that quarter three just a bunch of people said fuck it
Starting point is 03:10:47 we'll do anything else but watch this so they're back up to within 8,000 of where they started from after losing 89,000 in 45 minutes quarter five the big 9 o'clock hour the continuation of the J. White MJF Live promo and
Starting point is 03:11:05 beatdown Orange Cassidy and Hooks backstage angle Chris Jericho and Kenny Omega versus Takeshita and Kyle Fletcher with picture and picture 849,000 viewers Good Lord, okay, a much bigger jump than normal
Starting point is 03:11:25 53,000 folks for the top of the 9 o'clock hour and they had their main event guys in there. But as we mentioned, that was kind of a long, burdensome thing to watch, so where'd they go from there? Quarter six, nine, fifteen, and nine, thirty
Starting point is 03:11:41 p.m., the continuation of the previous tag match, the post-match beat down from Powerhouse Halbs on Kenny Omega, 819,000 viewers. So back down 30,000. And they're starting to, it looks like they're going to, they're going to
Starting point is 03:11:59 finish about the same place they started after having a couple of peaks in a valley. Quarter seven, nine, thirty to nine forty-five p.m. MJF in the training room being massaged by Max Castor, the Samoa Joe video, and the beginning of Tony Storm versus Sky blew with picture and picture, 795,000 viewers. And they're back down around that 800,000 mark. That was 24,000 at bit the dust. Quarter 8, and once again we do have an overrun here,
Starting point is 03:12:33 quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. The finish of Tony Storm versus Sky Blue, Stokely Hathaway's backstage promo. Oh, I forgot, he's on the board of directors of a ring of honor, apparently. Somehow a heel manager got on the board of directors. Go ahead. An ad break and the beginning of Adam Copeland's live promo, 809,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:12:58 I'll give you the overrun here. Well, hold on. I'm just, that's another 14,000, but basically they didn't hold the audience. They lost a lot of the audience. Then they gained more of the audience. Then they lost that audience. And now they're finishing up about where they started from. And finally, eight minutes and eight minute overrun, 10 to 10.08 p.m.
Starting point is 03:13:21 Adam Copeland's confrontation with Christian, 852,000 viewers. okay but now was that the program wasn't even listed to be on so what exactly was the DVR problem so it's not that your DVR recorded a different show in the time slot it just recorded a different time slot for a different show yeah it it listed AEW as being on from 4 to 6 p.m so it recorded whatever was on tbs from 4 to 6 p.m
Starting point is 03:13:52 and then young sheldon was listed four episodes from 8 to 10 p.m. so you wouldn't have got that. But for the people that tune in anyway and don't worry about DVR in it, the show was in the correct time period. But what I'm asking here is that how would suddenly 43,000 people
Starting point is 03:14:18 switch over into that ninth quarter hour when Edge was already in the ring, he'd already called Christian out was suddenly people it wasn't a case of I got to turn over now that it's 10 o'clock to see what's on the last segment of AEW was supposed to be over so how did they get that was it tuning in for the next show or people just realized
Starting point is 03:14:45 that's an odd pattern I can't remember we've been covered these ratings for a couple of years they've never done their show low in the third quarter but they had a major star in the ninth quarter and that's where they usually do the lowest number of the dynamite show is eighth quarter or the overrun and they did the highest.
Starting point is 03:15:15 So I don't know what the fuck's going on here. And either did they. That was AEW Dynamite. All right, Jim, well, let's go from comfortable clothing to maybe uncomfortable ratings, I'm not exactly sure. This past week, Tuesday night, October 10th, the ratings head-to-head, Dynamite versus NXT. Any thoughts before we say the numbers? Yeah, well, I think we ought to lay this out. It's a little different than what we normally do.
Starting point is 03:15:40 Let's give the, as we go quarter by quarter, let's give the AEW number and what was on, and then the corresponding NXT number in what was on, so we can compare them side by side. Okay, let me pull up everything. and for this past week, October 10th, NXT on USA Network was watched by 921,000 viewers on average, including an average of 396,000 in the key demo. AEW Dynamite on TBS, also 8 p.m., was watched by 609,000 viewers on average,
Starting point is 03:16:20 including 346,000 in the key demo. Just the fact that they were able to come that close in the key demo while getting trounced in every other category is, I guess, a small victory, but missed it by that much. All right, and I'm pulling up the ratings and the head-to-head numbers. These were compiled by Resslenomics who did a great job with these this week. So if we are going, I got to see if I got blow this up a little bit. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. on AEW, Christians promo, and the beginning of Brian Danielson versus Swerve Strickland. On NXT, Cody Rhodes, Ilya, Dominic Mysterio, and Ria Ripley's live promo. AEW, 731,000 viewers. NXT, 991,000 viewers. Ouch.
Starting point is 03:17:23 So, right off the bat, that's a difference of 260,000 people. And it looks like from those numbers that neither show is going to keep that steadily, they've got to lose something somewhere because that's significantly higher than both of their averages. What do you think of NXT opening with Cody against AEW? Well, they opened with Cody because it was the perfect spot because he was going to be the general manager. I don't think they were counter-programming. You know, let's get the biggest name we got from AEW to put in that spot. He fit it to begin with.
Starting point is 03:17:59 I think that just happens to be Coincadinkle. Quarter 2, 815 to 8.30 p.m. On AEW Dynamite, the continuation of Danielson v. Swirf Strickland, and Chris Jericho versus Powerhouse Hobbs. No picture and picture, by the way, commercial free both shows for the first half hour. Right. NXT. Oscar versus Roxanne Perez and Tyler Bate and Ridge Holland versus Gallus.
Starting point is 03:18:26 Wait, that was it? Oh, Tyler Batesch and Ridge Hall. It seemed like there were 18 people in there. There were only three people on that team? Yeah. And that was the Pub Rules thing. So this should have been a massive swing to AEW. At least they had a good,
Starting point is 03:18:40 match going on and some name value while there was bleh on NXT, but go ahead. AEW, 655,000 viewers. Ouch. NXT, 956,000 viewers. Okay, so at that point, 40,000, 76,000 people gave up on AEW and 35,000 gave up on NXT. Maybe everybody just had to take a shit at the same time. Well, quarter three, 8.30, 8.45 p.m.
Starting point is 03:19:12 On AEW. Dynamite, the final three minutes of Jericho versus Hobbs, and the Adam Cole Roderick Strong Kingdom video, as well as the beginning of Orange Cassidy versus Ray Phoenix. On NXT, the continuation of the pub battle now with picture and picture ads, and Becky Lynch, Lira Valkyrie. Is that her name? I don't know. We're a Valkyrie video for AEW, 673,000 viewers. For NXT, 861,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:19:50 Ouch. So again, NXT drops 85,000 people, and they're down 130,000 from the start, but meanwhile, AEW picked up 18,000, but they're still down 98,000 from the start. there's still about 200,000 in between. Quarter 4, 8.45 to 9 p.m. On AEW, the end of Phoenix versus Orange Cassidy, Tony Storm's video, and then the picture and picture silent movie, Wardlow versus Matt Seidel,
Starting point is 03:20:27 Jericho Garcia and Menard backstage, and the beginning of Jay White versus Adam Page with Picture and Picture on NXT an ad break and John Sina in the ring with Bronbreaker, followed by another ad break. AEW, 589,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:20:48 Oh! NXT, 909,000 viewers. Oh, so Sina gets in the ring, bookended by commercials, and picks his show up 48,000, and the other guys lose
Starting point is 03:21:06 78,000. It's a mix between Sina being on the other show and the Adam Cole segment followed by Orange Cassidy, who the fans watching on TV, I think, have been more sick of than the fans who attend the shows or Tony Khan himself.
Starting point is 03:21:22 Yeah, and you can't even say that Sina took all the viewers away because he only got half of him. The other half just said, eh. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour. On AEW, the continuation of Jay White versus Adam Page with picture and picture
Starting point is 03:21:37 and the beginning of the postmatch with MJF Live promo on NXT, DeAngelo, Lorenzo, and Cody Rhodes backstage, Baron Corbin's promo and the start of Ilya of Ilya Drey-Night as a referee, and picture and picture. For AEW, 549,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:22:04 Ooh! For NXT, 958,000. Jesus Christ. Now they're 409,000 people apart. And obviously at 9 o'clock everybody looked at
Starting point is 03:22:21 what was on one channel and said they lost 40,000 from the end of the first hour. And meanwhile NXT picks up 50. All right, where are we going from here? Quarter five, nine to nine, excuse me, quarter five No, quarter six.
Starting point is 03:22:38 What the hell am I saying? 9.15 to 9.30 p.m. On AEW, the continuation of MJF's confrontation with Jay White and Juice Robinson, followed by another Tony Storm video with picture and picture ads. On NXT, the final three minutes of Dragonoff v. Dominic Mysterio, Sina, Trick Williams, Carmelo Hayes backstage, an ad break. Jade Cargill arrives. Cody and Corbin backstage, Dominic Ripley, and Frazier backstage, and Danny Palmer
Starting point is 03:23:14 versus Lola Vice. For AEW, 557,000 viewers, for NXT, 914,000. My God, and that plethora of crap, they only lost 44,000, and meanwhile, AEW is flat over there with the faithful they got left. Quarter 7, 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. For AEW, Hikaru Shita versus Soraya with Picture and Picture, and Don Callis and Takesha backstage promo. For NXT, the continuation of Palmer versus Vice,
Starting point is 03:23:52 the Chase U segment, Heyman and Braun Breaker. It chased me off. Heyman and Braun Breaker backstage. Sina and Hayes entering an ad break and the Lexus King video. For AEW, 558,000 viewers. For NXT, 887,000. And again, AEW, they've got the people left that are just going to watch no matter what.
Starting point is 03:24:19 And NXT dropped a few because the star power decreased a bit, but we're about to get to the main event. Quarter eight, and I'm going to do the overrun separately this time because it's a considerable period of time they went to both shows. For AEW, picture and picture and full screen, I guess, finishing the Callas Takesha promo, MJF and the acclaim backstage, Christian Cage's live promo, and the beginning of Adam Copeland versus Luchosaurus, on NXT, Aska and Tiffany Stratton backstage, and the start of Carmelo Hayes with John Sina versus Braun Breaker with Paul Heyman with picture and picture ads. for AEW, 559,000 viewers. For NXT, 86,000.
Starting point is 03:25:13 And again, the entire 9 o'clock hour, AEW did 549, 557, 558, and 559. That was just, those people were like chained to the television. They're never going to change the channel. and NXT did 958, 914, 887, and 866 I'm surprised the 866 went down with Sina, Braun, etc.
Starting point is 03:25:39 I assume they're going to do something about that in the overrun and potentially AEW might come out of their fucking slumber as well. What do we do in quarter nine? Quarter nine, the overrun, for AEW from 10 to 1014 p.m.
Starting point is 03:25:56 Adam Copeland versus Luchosaurus with picture and picture the post match with Christian and Nick Wayne as well as Danielson Castagnoli, Euda the Gates of Agony, Swore of Strickland and Adam Page. See, I saw none of this
Starting point is 03:26:11 because they went four minutes over their own overrun. And on NXT from 10 to 10.08 p.m., the continuation of Hayes v. Breaker and the post match with the Undertaker. for AEW, 6,6,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:26:29 For NXT, 960,000 viewers. Wow. Okay. So the Battle of the Overrun was won by NXT by the total of 354,000 people. They more than... They had more than half as many again people watching their show as AEW
Starting point is 03:26:53 you did by the time the thing was over with. And the only quarter in which AEW won the key demo number, 18 to 49 year old males, was quarter three, which was the pub match up against Jericho versus Hobbs the last three minutes into the Adam Cole video, into Orange Cassidy versus Phoenix. That is the only quarter they won the key demo. But look. They got crushed everywhere else. The thing is, for all that NXT stacked up,
Starting point is 03:27:23 all of the big stars, right? Sina and Undertaker and L.A. Night and blah, blah, blah. You would... A.E.W. normally has been doing $850,000. This time they did 600, basically. $609. NXT has been doing around $800,000 or more. They did 921.
Starting point is 03:27:46 The point I'm saying is, is that you would have thought that if NXT was taken away 250,000 people from AEW, they would have even done a bigger number. How does this work out? Because NXT only did 100,000 more maybe than what they've been doing as an average, a little bit more in some of the quarters.
Starting point is 03:28:11 But AEW lost 250,000 off the top, and did the lowest quarters three times in a row that I, or four times in a row that I can remember a Wednesday night show doing. So they didn't all start watching NXT, or is there a bunch more crossover than we thought? Is it the, all the AEW fans are not fed up with WWE and hate the evil empire? How did this work? Where did AEW's 250,000 people go unless some of them, many, of them are part of the normal NXT audience to begin with.
Starting point is 03:28:54 Yeah, I can't explain it. Obviously, there are people who DVR it, and you had to make a choice if you're going to watch it live, what you were going to watch live, but, you know, really not a good number for AEW. You would hope that it would have been a little better, even though it was a lot. Well, and that's the thing. If it was just all of the fans of the viewers of Raw and Smatdown coming over to NXT, because, well, then they've got two and a half million of them.
Starting point is 03:29:16 Seems like they would have got a bigger bump. but basically it was just a bunch of AEW fans saying fuck AEW I'm going to watch NXT tonight like I usually do apparently but yeah 300 on the averages
Starting point is 03:29:34 312,000 people difference which is more than half of the total audience of AEW well those go ahead I was just going to say and it's not like this was unexpected except by Tony in his mind,
Starting point is 03:29:53 and maybe that's what led to some wires coming loose. Well, some wires certainly came loose. Those were the ratings for AEW versus NXT on Tuesday night. We'll see if we ever get another head-to-head. Did anybody watch this thing? We know they did a good number, but it had to tank at the end, certainly. Well, hold on one second.
Starting point is 03:30:14 I'm pulling up the number. This is compiled by WrestleMania. The overall number on average AEW Dynamite on October 18th was watched by 902,000 viewers. That is, to me, honestly, incredible that they have put on these nonsensical programs for the last few weeks and still managed to muster. Was it, what was the tease? Was enough of the word out there about what Sting was going to do that they wanted to see that? was there something else that we missed that was important here? Or they were just unopposed again and a lot of people skipped it last week and felt bad.
Starting point is 03:30:57 Like they had cheated on their spouse. Well, I guess the bigger question is, what was the lead in? That, and did anything happen there that would cause this number to be up? Because Jim, quarter 1, 8 to 8.8.15 p.m., Penta L. Zeromeido versus J. White with picture and picture, 1 million 1,000 viewers Wait a bit
Starting point is 03:31:20 1 million 1,000 I can't hardly write that 1 comma 0-001 All righty So they hit their magic million mark They had They had a million magic marks
Starting point is 03:31:34 Is what they had Where did we go from here How did all the children have grown up And how do we spend our time No one nobody gives us a damn And that is the highest I remember the opening number being in quite a while. Oh, yeah. Quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m.
Starting point is 03:31:50 The continuation of Penta versus Jay White. Bullet Club Gold's live promo. MJF and the acclaim backstage. An ad break in the beginning of Emmy Sakura versus Hikaru versus Hikaru Shita. 931,000 viewers. Okay. We're starting to get back to.
Starting point is 03:32:13 more realistic numbers here, but 70,000, but for that, my God, you would have thought they'd run off more. Go ahead. Quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m., the continuation of Emmy Sakura. Now you're questioning your... Now I can't say anyone's name. Emmy Sakura or Sakura, whatever name is. How about Freddie Mercury? Versus Heikaru Shita with picture and picture. Adam Copeland's backstage confession with Renee Moxley Good. It's my backstage confession When I tell the world that I love you
Starting point is 03:32:48 And speaking of grassroots, Wardlow Versus Ryan Nemeth and the post-match promo 924,000 viewers Ouch! They lost people for Edge They lost people for Emmy Soccera versus Yeah, that's true And again, Edge...
Starting point is 03:33:08 Poor Edge was just caught in the crossfire Hey, listen, Edge has so far as far as YouTube numbers, he's caused a big spike in his videos for AEW. His segments have done okay, but until, you know, there's only so much slack they're going to give you before you do something. And it can't just be the acting segments you want to do. It has to be what's right. We'll see. That makes sense, though, because the YouTube segments, that's just Edge and people can seek it out. and the WWE fans who liked Edge don't obviously want to
Starting point is 03:33:43 or have to watch the rest of this outlaw program, they can just see the guy they like on the YouTube clips. So that makes sense. Yeah, and the thumbnail will feature him who's just been on their TV show, so he's easily recognizable even to younger fans. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m., Kenny Omega's backstage confrontation with MJF,
Starting point is 03:34:03 an ad break, Adam Cole and Roderick Strong's continuing circus. The Don Callas Powerhouse Hobbs, Kyle Fletcher live promo, 934,000 viewers. So they've gone 931, 924, and 934. So they're kind of plateaued there after the initial flurry at the beginning. What about the top of the 9 o'clock hour? Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour. Kenny Omega versus Kyle Fletcher with picture and picture. and a Danhausen video. Oh, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 03:34:42 Apparently, that's going to be some kind of ongoing segment. Love that Danhausen, so we'll have more silliness to make fun of. Imagine if they did that before he debuted. Everyone gets like these packages after they have been there forever. But 9 to 9.15 p.m., 929,000 viewers. I said they lost 5,000 off the... But again, 931, 924, 934, 929. Are they waiting for Sting?
Starting point is 03:35:15 Quarter 6, 915, and 9.30 p.m. An ad break. Lance Archer versus Barrett Brown. That was his name. Swear Strickland and Prince Nana's backstage promo and Sting's live promo. 892,000 viewers. Oh, Goddell.
Starting point is 03:35:36 Apparently they weren't waiting for Stinghackling. because they bailed out before he got there. So, all right, I'm looking at the average, and they started with a million people, and they spent one tooth of four quarters between 924 and 934. Now they've dropped to 892. There's a little bit more dropping to go to get to that average.
Starting point is 03:36:00 What happened in the last two? In quarters 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m. Tony Storm and RJ City's silent film with picture and, well, during picture and picture ads. Nick Wayne and Nick Wayne's mom interviewed by Jim Ross, and then Christian Cage comes in in the brawl with Darby Allen and everything else that was happening. Orange Cassidy and Chris Statlander's backstage promo. I skip that. And an ad break, 861,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:36:34 Okay, so apparently the Was it the Which segment was the Maxwell's silver hammer here That conk the viewers on the head Was it indeed the Puddin gang with Statlander Or was it indeed some of this other foolishness Well finally quarter eight And we do have a overrun
Starting point is 03:36:54 I'll give you that too with this Quarter eight The only reason we got an overrun Is because they can't get their shit in in the regular run 9.45 to 10 p.m. The Dynamite Diamond Ring Battle Royal with Picture and Picture Ads, 762,000 viewers. Wow.
Starting point is 03:37:13 And five-minute overrun, 836,000 viewers. Okay, and I think we've established that also the overrun was people tuning into whatever was scheduled next, because how can a match who loses 100,000 viewers when the people see, oh, that's on? We ain't watching that. suddenly it gets to the last four minutes they're going to pick up another 74,000? No, I think not. So they started the program with a million viewers and ended with 762,000. And that was AEW Dynamite and... Congratulations to them that the people that were watching this thing had the patience they did
Starting point is 03:37:58 before they dove off the cliff at the last half hour, because there was nothing there to reward. their interest or their patience. You'll never guess, Jim, but once again, we are in the future. Help me. Help me. Suddenly, I have the head of a fly, or is it the head of a guy and the body of a fly? I'm a fly guy. All right, well, there's no easy transition from fly guy to anything else, but why don't we fly along and I'll tell you what, there's no easy transition for Tony to life after wrestling after
Starting point is 03:38:47 the ratings this week, huh? Again, there's a bunch of stories happening at once. It's the television show quality. Now you could say it's the television show ratings. It's the amount of people buying or not buying tickets to their shows. But hey, they had Wembley. Let's never forget that. We'll always remember Wembley.
Starting point is 03:39:09 Jim A.E.W. Dynamite. Tony Storm is going to be making movies about Wembley here pretty soon. And they'll be silent. Jim A.W. Dynamite that we just reviewed from October 25th Wednesday night on TBS was watched on average by 774,000 viewers. Youch! Boom goes to dynamite. The chickens come home to poop.
Starting point is 03:39:34 Isn't that an old saying? Well, it's something like that. I think it's the poop comes home to roost? That's it. That's it. Well, let's see what this rooster poop did quarter by quarter. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m., these were compiled by Russellnomics. MJF, Roderick Strong, and the Kingdom backstage during their promo,
Starting point is 03:39:57 and the beginning of Juice Robinson versus MJF with picture in picture, 982,000 viewers. Boom, so they... And you said the average... was 774? That is correct. Was there a massive power blackout on the East Coast? Maybe voluntarily.
Starting point is 03:40:20 Possibly. Well, let's go from here and see where the journey takes us. Quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m., the continuation of Juice Robinson versus MJF. Bullet Club Gold, MJF, and the acclaimed and Billy Gunn's live angle. and then MJF and Kenny Omega's ramp confrontation, 936,000 viewers, and also the high point in the key demo, 394,000. So they couldn't, even with all that MJF
Starting point is 03:40:54 that they were spreading around the first half hour, they couldn't keep people there. Well, whatever they started from, the Big Bang must have been popular that evening. Maybe they just lost 50,000 of the people, big bangers that didn't like the bang gang banger gangers. Should there be a crossover event with the bang bang bang and the big bang and the big bang club? What is it?
Starting point is 03:41:17 The big bang theory. Everybody could get banged. It could be a big fucking deal bang. They could call it the big bang. Start all over again. Well, let's see how they started for segment three, 830 to 8.45 p.m. an ad break, a Wardlow video... That may have been the high point of the demo.
Starting point is 03:41:40 No, go ahead. The Wardlow video, Hook and Rob Van Dam versus Alex Reynolds and John Silver of the Dark Order with picture and picture, 752,000 viewers. Oh my God! That's 100 and...
Starting point is 03:41:57 I can't do this math. 184,000 people in 15 minutes said, fuck you? What did the Super Bowl start on the other channel? And for the record, the key demo went from 394, the high point at 286. Yeah. I'm looking right now at a cable guy. Can I get it from two days ago?
Starting point is 03:42:23 Let me see. One day back. October 25th. So we're talking 8.30 p.m. approximately. There was Celebrity Jeopardy on ABC. there was Survivor on CBS, Sullivan's Crossing on CW, whatever that is, the NBA, the Celtics versus the Knicks on ESPN,
Starting point is 03:42:47 but that game started, I believe, 7.30, certainly before 8 o'clock. Did somebody, was there like a triple-lindy fucking 4-point goal or a double dunk and somebody got their brains bashed out or something? They would switch over in the middle? No, they would just go to Twitter and, see the clip of that. There was nothing like that, though. It was just a
Starting point is 03:43:08 game. I mean, it's the beginning of the season, but nothing big at that point at 8.30 that would cause people other than the fact that MJF was no longer on the screen to jump off that show. All righty. Quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. The Tony Storm video with picture and picture and a full screen ad break. And then Sting receives the gift of Rick Flair, as well as Christian Cage's live promo, 756,000 viewers. They only got 4,000 more for Rick Flair walking out.
Starting point is 03:43:45 Again, Rick Flair in 2023 isn't what Rick Flair was in previous years, but he's still Rick Flair, for good or for bad. Is that something you want as a surprise, or is that something that should be announced? Considering his history as a ratings mover, is that something that should have been announced ahead of time? well again if he's going to be around if he didn't book himself and that's the arrangement where he's going to be here a lot
Starting point is 03:44:10 then I can understand him making a surprise the first time because like anything going to happen you know there's some cachet you can earn sometimes with that but then what did the next quarter do because Rick Flair showing up on Twitter should get 4,000 people in the fucking United States to switch over in a couple of minutes right
Starting point is 03:44:31 They just, oh, Rick Flair just showed up. Well, you're not too far off when you said $4,000. Quarter 5, 9 to 9, 15 p.m. The continuation of Sting, Rick Flair, Darby Allen, and Christian Cage's confrontation, the Chris Jericho backstage promo at Renee. Adam Page and the Young Bucks versus Isaiah Cassidy and the Hardees with picture and picture, 764,000 viewers. Well, no, there's 8,000.
Starting point is 03:45:01 I know, I said you were close. I said you were close. I was close, yeah. Four Gazenda, eight. Boy, howdy, okay. Well, at least we know where the overall average is coming from, but I think they've still got a bit more plummeting to do, don't they? Well, quarter six, when you put it like that, it's nothing but funny.
Starting point is 03:45:24 Well, quarter six, 915 to 9.30 p.m. the continuation of the Bucks and Page versus Cassidy and the Hardee's with the postmatch with Swerve Strickland and Prince Nana breaking into Adam Page's home and terrorizing his baby also his invisible baby An ad break Adam Copeland's confrontation with Sting and Darby Allen and the beginning of Hikaru Shita
Starting point is 03:45:51 versus Ruby Soho 726,000 viewers and there goes another 38,000 of, and is this now going to be called the EVP effect? If this was science fiction, I think it is science fiction. If you look at it fairly, without any personal feelings or anything involved, when was the last time the Young Bucks had a positive impact on AEW programming or events? I get the only time I can remember them drawing it above. average quarter hour was when they went on first, which is kind of a gimmy.
Starting point is 03:46:33 And maybe a couple times when they were tied to Omega, who people actually do want to see, no matter what you want to say, they want to see him a lot more than they do the Young Bucks. Yeah, when they're out there by themselves or with hang nail, because... Yeah, exactly. You know, my God, he's like a fucking... I can't form a cogent simile. He's like a charisma vacuum in that it's just, just nothing happens around him. It's just whining us.
Starting point is 03:47:02 Go ahead. Quarter 7, 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. The continuation of that incredible Sheeta versus Ruby Soho match with picture and picture, as well as a postmatch with Tony Storm coming out. MJF's backstage confrontation with Samoa Joe. Another ad break. And the beginning of the entrances for the main event. 643,000 viewers. Oh, good Lord. Now, once again, there was, the Mavericks and the Spurs started at 9 p.m.
Starting point is 03:47:36 So even if you want to say that game affected the 9 p.m. hour, this is 930 we're talking about now. And, well, they've lost 764 to 643, 120,000 people since the top of the hour by quarter 7. Young bucks followed by the women's division is going to kill an audience every single time. But there's one thing that could finish it off, and that's quarter eight, 945 to 10 p.m. Ocada and Orange Cassidy versus Brian Danielson. The unknown and the unwanted. Versus Brian Danielson and Claudio Castignoli with picture and picture. There's also an overrun. The concussed and the confused.
Starting point is 03:48:20 646,000 viewers. Three-minute overrun, 716,000. thousand. Yeah, and I don't think those extra 70,000 people showed up just to see the last three minutes of this grip. Remember the last three minutes you tried to explain to me. It was a lot of people standing around. So that extra 70,000 was probably whoever was waiting for the start of the program they wanted to watch. Right. The other option is someone was watching another show when it was 10 o'clock and the show ended and they're like, hey, I wonder of wrestling if they're just still on. Or maybe they messed up the time.
Starting point is 03:48:54 time and they'd still be on. And it turns out they did and they weren't. But that's, that's how he killed an audience. Player didn't get a, didn't get any audience gain, but yeah, but the last three minutes of that. So yeah. They got one guy there that matters and that's MJF and they're doing what they can, it seems like, to kill everything he has going for him. But he's the one guy they have that actually people tune in to see what's going on with him. Wait a bit, from start to finish, they lost 336,000 viewers, right? Right.
Starting point is 03:49:31 And 336 Gazenda, 982, at least, let's see, see, they lost almost 40% of the viewers they started with by the end of the program. Is that some kind of record? It just may be. It just may be. and I mean, look, it was a bad show. And I said to you when we were talking about it during a review,
Starting point is 03:49:56 there were times they do these bad shows and you're like, Jesus, they actually popped a number somehow. But this was really bad and sloppy and unfunny and uncreative and poor, and there's no one who's a star anywhere. Okada is a great wrestler. I'm a fan of his. You put him in there with someone I wouldn't watch him with,
Starting point is 03:50:16 but let's go to the fans who have no idea who he is, which is the vast majority of the viewing audience. you gave them nothing to tune into. You gave them nothing. That women's division, at this point it really is just like the women's token match on the show and they kill the rating spot
Starting point is 03:50:34 and the problem is they put the women in that spot and then they bomb. Sheeta versus Soho was awful. It was embarrassing. It wasn't ready for television. And then you take a step back. It wasn't even ready for radio. The young bucks who make a lot of money,
Starting point is 03:50:51 do they earn it? Do they earn it? How much merch are they moving now? How many times have they ever popped a number? Or at least in the last two and a half three years? Is there anyone you want to see them in the ring with? Do you feel like you've seen all you can see from them? Does anyone want to see Adam Page? The swerve stuff, it's like one step forward, three steps back every time. It's like, wow, he did a good promo. Or wow, he had a good match. he's committing some sort of fucking felony on camera. With Nonna. Nonna's from Queens. He should know better than to participate in stuff like this. I know Nana. He would never allow himself to be evidenced.
Starting point is 03:51:35 They put Sting on the mic again. It didn't do anything to help. They brought out Rick Flair with no prior announcement. Got a lot of negative feedback from AEW fans. If you're going to do it, at least try to get something out of it. Other than just YouTube video... The YouTube numbers for that clip are great. It's better than everything else.
Starting point is 03:51:52 on the show that no one wanted to watch. That was AEW Dynamite. However, we do indeed, now that we have gone into the future, we have ratings. Oh, boy. AEW Dynamite, November 1st. I wish they had the ratings just for Louisville, Kentucky. How many people in Louisville watched that show?
Starting point is 03:52:15 Because we know that, but you know, actually, it would probably be more were there live than watching in this market, probably to be honest, on cable, on television. And that ain't saying much. It's not saying much AEW Dynamite on TBS, November 1st, 2023, on average did 832,000 viewers? So they have apparently chained these people to their Barka loungers. It's the same every week, and they ain't going to let them go.
Starting point is 03:52:50 I presume so. That's a statement that I made. I think it's going to stay like that until more people start dropping TVs. That's going to be the big thing. And that's the future is more people dropping TVs. Dropping having cable. But they're not going to have to throw their TV out the window, are they? That'd be awesome.
Starting point is 03:53:07 I love the open of SCTV. The throwing the TVs out the window. I like the idea. Well, that's because you're a reincarnated rock star from the 60s. Anyway, how did it go from big to small like usual? It's because I like good Canadian comedy, which is why I hate so much of AEW. But AEW's ratings, November 1st, 2023, quarter one, these were compiled by WrestleManiaomics. If you're into ratings, check out their Patreon, support them.
Starting point is 03:53:34 Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. The recap video, MJF and Adam Cole on the screen. The Kingdom and Roddy Strong come screaming in. Orange Cassidy versus Claudio Castignoli, with picture and picture. 985,000 viewers. Wow, so that'll be the high point. We can pretty much tell that already. Well, quarter two, 815 to 8.30 p.m.,
Starting point is 03:54:04 the continuation of Orange Cassidy versus Claudio Castignoli, including the post-match with John Moxley, MJF and Chris Jericho's confrontation leading to Wardlow choking MJF, and then he acclaimed the Billy Gunn hanging out, 896,000 viewers. Okay, so immediately 89,000 people said what the fuck is going on here
Starting point is 03:54:30 and chose to leave. That was not unexpected per our discussion earlier about the merits or lack thereof of fucking pockets the mascot. Quarter three, an ad break, oh, 830 to 8.45 p.m., excuse me, an ad break,
Starting point is 03:54:48 John Moxley's backstage promo Adam Page and the Young Bucks versus the Mughal Embassy with picture and picture 793,000 viewers Oh Jesus Christ What the Another 103,000 they lost two
Starting point is 03:55:06 No not two A hundred and I can't do this math 90 something thousand people in the first 45 minutes Well they got to bring some of them back they're not going to make this average, are they? Well, again, they had the World Series up against them, so you had as much action as was happening in that game
Starting point is 03:55:25 if you were going to hold any baseball fans. A quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. The postmatch with the Angry Young Bucks, MJF and the acclaimed and Billy Gunn backstage, Adam Copeland and Christian Cage's live promo, an angle, also featuring Luchosaurus, Nick Wayne, Sting, Derby, Allen and the big Tony
Starting point is 03:55:49 con and Nigel McGinnis announcement 836,000 viewers. So I would have to think that that's the Adam Copeland effect there because nothing else sounded particularly gripping, so they got back
Starting point is 03:56:05 36 and 73,000 people. And because of where it goes the next quarter, let me just say this too. They had, whatever Tony thinks, he has finally burned out his audience on caring about his big announcements. Well, now, but it was brought up on Twitter today, I saw people discussing it, that maybe we had the wrong expectations because he's got a variety of announcements.
Starting point is 03:56:29 There's big announcements, there's major announcements, there's important announcements, there's game-changing announcements, so maybe we just weren't on the terminology we were expecting too much. I like how it's now, how do we get Tony so that he gets his fix of being on camera, but it puts him in a better role. It's put him with a buddy. Either Adam Cole, Nigel.
Starting point is 03:56:53 Do we have a buddy that speaks English well? Put him with Adam Cole, put him with Nigel McGinnis. We'll see who's next. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. Angelo Parker and Matt Menard
Starting point is 03:57:10 versus Chris Jericho and Kenny Omega with picture and picture. And the big post match with the big show. show, or he's not allowed to be called that. Paul White and the Callis family, 779,000 viewers. Ew, okay, we're going back in the opposite direction, another 36 to 57,000 people. And we are at show low already at the top of the 9 o'clock hour so far. Quarter six, 9.15, and 9.30 p.m. an ad break. In the Kenny Omega Young Bucks locker room with drama with Chris Jericho,
Starting point is 03:57:52 Hikaru Shita versus Willow Nightingale, through picture and picture ads, 762,000 viewers. There goes another 17,000. Whoops, there goes another rubber tree plant. All right. Well, quarter seven. What do you never sang when you were a kid in school? I never sang that.
Starting point is 03:58:15 What song is that? Oh, what was the first part of it? it. He's got high hopes. He's got high apple pie in the sky hopes. That's what you were singing in school when you were a kid? Well, we didn't have many songs back then. They hadn't written a lot yet.
Starting point is 03:58:39 All right. Back to this, quarter seven. Quarter seven. A new low here on this show as well as a new low rating in quarter six. Quarter seven. the continuation of Akaru Shida versus Willow Nightingale, including the post-match with Tony Storm, and the magic of Julia Hart and Sky Blue.
Starting point is 03:58:57 The magic of... MJF and the acclaimed backstage. The illusions of Julia Hart and... And further allusions in the next segment with MJF, the acclaimed, the guns, Jeff Chariot, Sanja, everyone backstage, willing to be MJF's partner, an ad break, and then the entrances for the main event. event, 821,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:59:23 So poor MJF still, even in these contrived and maligned circumstances, can pull it into 59,000 people and get them for the first time in the second hour above 800,000 viewers. And we have a two-minute overrun, but finally quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. Billy Gunn, MJF and the Acclaim versus Bullet Club Gold with picture and picture ads, 792,000 viewers, and the two-minute overruns, 790,000 viewers. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 04:00:02 So poor MJF wasn't enough to keep. 21, 8,000 of those that he brought back, and they dipped below... They came up just short of dropping 200,000, thousand from the first quarter to the last quarter. They did it in the middle, but they at least weren't down. They were only down at the end, 193,000. And the overrun lost them because apparently the program
Starting point is 04:00:31 it was scheduled afterward kind of sucked too. Let me ask you this, because obviously I brought up before how they killed the Tony Khan special announcement. It means nothing now. MJF has been someone proven to move the ratings since day one almost he's the world champion you want your world champion to have a big presence on the show
Starting point is 04:00:54 there's multiple people chasing after him that's the thing but having multiple people chase after him is one thing having him threaded throughout the program is another when you have someone that hot what do you do what when I say someone that hot He's the hottest thing to have an AEW.
Starting point is 04:01:12 Right, right. When you have someone like that, what do you do so you don't burn out the audience because you're not getting what used to be one really big awesome MJF segment that you knew to tune in for? Now he's threaded throughout the program. And then finally, the main event doesn't even pop a number. Steve Austin was threaded throughout the program also. Right. You can be threaded throughout the program.
Starting point is 04:01:36 It's what you're doing, why you're dangling from that thread. throughout the program. And, I mean, we've said it, but MJF has now become a fucking nerd, a friendless nerd. He didn't need friends before he had stooges. He didn't need friends. But now he's portrayed as someone who has to go and fucking tuck his tail between his legs to some of these people. But yet he still doesn't want to deal with some of them because he has.
Starting point is 04:02:10 has some pride, but now he's with these fucking nitwits, and it's great for the world champion to be the focus of multiple people in the promotion. But do you remember Rick Flair being the focus of Lasertron? You know, they have to be
Starting point is 04:02:26 main event people that in the promotion that are focusing on MJF. And like we've said before, he got over as that cunning heel that actually did outsmart a lot of fucking baby faces, which is hard on the baby faces, but it worked for MJF,
Starting point is 04:02:43 so keep doing as much of that as possible while making him vulnerable to the really good heels that can get heat on him. And they're doing none of this. And now he's wandering around with a fucking notepad, try it with a list of people that may potentially be his friends. What the fuck is going on here? And he's too happy.
Starting point is 04:03:05 And he's too buddy, buddy with Adam Cole, which this whole thing's been preposterous. and phony anyway. And he's taking it seriously, not in terms of his... He's not taking it seriously in terms of his work, he's taking the preposterous scenario
Starting point is 04:03:25 that he's been put in, and MJF, the personality inside the wrestling universe there, is taking this seriously. And that makes him look like a fucking idiot. Because nobody else that's watching it is, because they shouldn't with the
Starting point is 04:03:44 the roddy in the wheelchair and the neck brace and the gown and the fucking giraffe and the goddamn Adam Cole was at the guy's house for two weeks with no cell service instead of getting surgery and what the fuck is
Starting point is 04:03:57 so they are minimizing and now they're overdoing it because he's in the show multiple times doing stupid shit just because he's there just because they'll watch him still but not in as big in numbers as maybe last year, and that's diminishing.
Starting point is 04:04:16 So, so fuck. The MJF in a match didn't used to be one of the one, two, three lowest quarter hours in the fucking show, regardless of where it was placed. But in this match, he was, and he should have been.
Starting point is 04:04:37 Because it's fucking stupid. You would have probably run into this more from working with VIII. on Raw than anything with Smoky Mountain or anything, probably even with OVW. Well, I guess maybe football, but when you know in advance that you're up against, more than likely, unless it's a sweep in four games, you're up against a World Series game, an NBA championship game, a big football game, whatever it may be. Do you change the way you're going to book the show knowing that you're up against that
Starting point is 04:05:08 whether you can keep your audience or not? And well, the thing is they didn't keep any more or they didn't lose any more of the audience against the World Series and they lose against goddamn Wednesday night every week. Did they?
Starting point is 04:05:23 So this is 20 or 25%. I think the biggest thing that's ever hit that show was remember Vanderpump rules? Remember that was the big thing that was like Yeah, and we never did find out who that fucking Vanderpump guy was or what he was the ruler of. But, but to point is, is that
Starting point is 04:05:38 this is, This is pretty much the people every week that sometimes try and sometimes succeed and sometimes fail to find something about AEW they want to watch. You can't tell me this is completely different people every fucking week. This is almost the same number and the same pattern. So I don't think the world series, I don't think that the average person who really enjoys watching AEW wrestling is a fucking sports fan. how could you be like you know watching people barbecue and Dalmatians
Starting point is 04:06:13 if you're an animal lover so this to me this was not well this was not due to the world series because it's the same goddamn thing every week they start with the biggest number
Starting point is 04:06:28 they drop fairly quickly at the start and then kind of maintain and then drop at the end and end up with losing 20 to 30% of their audience. They did the same thing get to the World Series that they do against goddamn family guy reruns. It's always the same thing because the show sucks.
Starting point is 04:06:49 And even all the people that start out want to see it, can't fucking sit through it. Pick that apart. It's going to be an interesting next couple of years. I'll say that. Especially with the people Tony surrounded or something. Oh, geez, don't say it like that. We've got to keep track of this shit for the next couple of years.
Starting point is 04:07:08 We've been there since the beginning. I think we have to go at least until Tony's nervous breakdown. All right. When Tony gets institutionalized, we can take a break from this. That's right. And then we will return from when he returns from his hiatus. Jim, why don't we go over the ratings here? This is AEW Dynamite for November 8th, 2023 on TBS.
Starting point is 04:07:31 On average, AEW Dynamite was watched by 804,000 viewers. Okay, on the low end of their range every fucking week. And let's go to the quarterly breakdowns. These were compiled by WrestleMania. Quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. MJF's Live promo and confrontation or discussion with Adam Cole, Daniel Garcia, Matt Menard, Angelo Parker, Roderick Strong, and the Kingdom, followed by the beginning of MJF versus Daniel Garcia,
Starting point is 04:08:04 with picture and picture, 892,000 viewers. Okay, that's, I think it's less than they started out with last week, but with the average, they should, they will probably hold and then fall off a cliff, if I'm looking at the average and the starting point appropriately. Well, quarter 2, 8.15.8.30 p.m., the continuation of MJF versus Daniel Garcia, the postmatch with Matt Menard, Angela Parker, and then an ad break.
Starting point is 04:08:39 I was about to say ad break is their partner. And then an ad break. He was Ad Santell's partner. A Mark Brisco video. Very good. And then the beginning, or no, the entirety of Daniel, I can't talk.
Starting point is 04:08:54 Darby Allen! And Sting versus the Outrunners. And that postmatch, 827,000 viewers. Ouch, okay. They got a hold steady from here. Well, quarter three, 830 to 8.45 p.m. The Tony Storm Hikaru Shita sit down in black and white promo. And the beginning of Penta Elzeromieto versus swerve Strickland with picture and picture.
Starting point is 04:09:27 814,000 viewers. Jesus. So, it's, uh, 47, 78,000 viewers in the first 45 minutes have departed, but they're getting rapidly close to their average, so they've got to, they either got to pick something up or stabilize pretty soon. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m., the continuation of Penta Elzerro Mieto versus Swarves Strickland, the post match with Adam Page and his chair,
Starting point is 04:10:00 Jay White's backstage promo Kenny Omega video An ad break Chris Jericho and Kenny Omega confronted by the Young Buck's backstage 818,000 viewers And so they pretty much stayed steady there 4,000 difference
Starting point is 04:10:20 And we're coming into the 9 o'clock hour Which as we mentioned was Samoa Joe And that young Whippersnapper Keith Lee The big 9 o'clock hour, Samoa Joe versus Bearcat Keith Lee with picture and picture, followed by a Joe promo
Starting point is 04:10:36 and then Orange Cassidy's promo, 866,000 viewers. Okay, so they did pick up 48,000 people at the top of the hour. Now, the question is, according to what I'm looking at from their overall average and the quarters they've done,
Starting point is 04:10:58 is it going to be quarter six, seven, or eight? that falls off a fucking cliff because they got to go back down. Quarter six, 915 to 9.30 p.m. The Guns versus the Bollywood Boys, followed by a Guns promo, followed by a Moxley backstage promo,
Starting point is 04:11:17 followed by an ad break, and then the start of Red Velvet versus Julia Hart with picture in picture, 769,000 viewers. There you go. 97,000 people said Sianara Quarter 7, 930 to 945 p.m. The continuation of Red Velvet versus Julia Hart,
Starting point is 04:11:42 the post match with Willow Nightingale, Sky Blue, and Chris Statlander, RJ City talks with Mariah May, an ad break, and the start of Mark Briscoe versus Jay White, 6906,000. thousand viewers. Oh, good Lord. Okay, there
Starting point is 04:12:03 went another 73,000 people. They lost 169,000 viewers in 45 minutes. And finally, quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. The continuation of Mark Briscoe versus Jay White, picture and picture ads,
Starting point is 04:12:21 and the post match with MJF and the Bullet Club gold, 750,000 viewers. So the MJF factor gets them back 54,000 people at the end to see what might happen probably amongst them, you know, all with that. Yeah, Mark Griscoe, who's talented and they've done nothing to establish him on this show against Jay White, who they're pushing as hard as they can, well, in their own way, against MJF, including giving him a victory, having a punk MJF out, stealing his belt, and no one is going to tune in to watch him. There's the problem. They push someone into the main event that no one was ready to.
Starting point is 04:12:59 for, at least amongst domesticated, domesticated, domestic, domesticated, domesticated and domestic wrestling fans who are not- Are they paper trained? As long as they don't watch New Japan already, they're probably not going to accept Jay White in this role as he's been presented. So the low point on the show was 196,000 viewers below where they started, and the end of the show, which was the second lowest point, was a 142,000 below what they started. but that's still not as big a percentage as they normally lose. So this was a victory.
Starting point is 04:13:34 The other week they lost about 30% didn't they? This would only be less than 20%. Oh, just wait until Vanderpump returns. You know, that guy's pissing me off. He makes all these rules. We don't even know who he is or what he looks like and he draws all these big ratings. But you're not going to watch the rest of Dynamite.
Starting point is 04:13:58 You want to do the ratings? well yeah let's talk about that for a minute because honestly i'm wondering whether somebody may have gotten some instructions wrong because i think they wanted a padded cell but they got a cardboard room because i think tony has completely lost his mind at this point somebody needs to check on him if he thinks this shit is good even if uncle dave is telling him that to keep his goddamn subscriber base happy somebody's got to be honest about doing an evaluation on Tony at this point, don't they? Who's going to do it?
Starting point is 04:14:32 The only person that could step in is his dad because everyone else is just going to tell him what he wants to hear. And if you're going to be the person that doesn't tell him that, who's going to back you up? There have been rumors about a sit down with various talents
Starting point is 04:14:44 and him to talk about the problems. The show just keeps getting worse and they're doubling down on the bad shit. Now they're starting to incorporate the bucks back into it, the bucks who aren't over. The bucks who are making more money than any 10 teams. They're making more money. more money than any tag team in history and they're not over.
Starting point is 04:15:01 They don't even sell merch anymore. So, nothing but issues. As far as sitting somebody down with him, I would have said maybe, I don't know, the head legal officer of the company, but I understand now that old Megan has been transferred
Starting point is 04:15:16 away from a lot of AEW duties over the past few months, as concentrating on other things, hadn't been as close to the the wrestlers and the wrestling as she once was. Somebody else is handling a lot of that? Well, at least not as close to the wrestling, but yeah, the reports came out that she's been focusing on other areas of the con family business from the Jacksonville
Starting point is 04:15:36 offices, and, you know, I think we could say we heard rumors a little while back, and we still don't know if they're true or not, but the rumor we heard from someone in the know was that she was suspended. But now we have to question whether she was suspended or just moved completely away from AEW, because for everyone who said Jim was made. making stuff up and Jim's going to get sued when Jim alluded to the idea that she had relationships with wrestlers and with talent that was Lorinitisian. How did you put it? Lauren Nitis.
Starting point is 04:16:09 It was very Laurinitis-ish. That's what it was. Yes. Well, it turns out that may have been right. Well, at least I ain't been served yet. So we'll see what happens there. We'll see what happens there. Any other thoughts on mega leaving AEW?
Starting point is 04:16:24 No, I was just saying, you know, somebody that could sit down with Tony that maybe he'd listen to, but, you know, if she's been transferred over to where she's handling some other field of endeavor entirely, because she, obviously, you know, you don't often move people away from shit they've done a bang-up job at. It's just one thing I was thinking. But nevertheless, what were the rating? You also don't want executives that want to party with the wrestlers. That's not what you want. I don't care what wrestling company you are. You don't want executives that want to party with the wrestlers. Unless it's Eddie Murphy and Rick James, because they like to party all the time.
Starting point is 04:16:57 Well, you've made several references recently to that song. I've had that song running through my head. I like to party all the time. Eddie Murphy couldn't sing. He couldn't carry a tune if it had a handles on it. Must be contagious. But you put Rick. You put Rick James in the background of anything.
Starting point is 04:17:13 It sounds funky. And that's what he did. He just did some background singing for his friend Eddie and got him a hit there. Drowned him out, as a matter of fact, also. Well, Jim, let's talk about what's been happening with the ratings here. AEW Dynamite on TBS November 15th, 2023, the overall rating for the show was 823,000 viewers.
Starting point is 04:17:36 You know, this has got to be some kind of, I don't know if it's a record or a streak or whatever, has there ever been any television program ever that did the same rating within 50,000 people plus or minus for goddamn like five months, six months at a time? It's always, it's the same people, isn't it? and how many of them are going to give up and jump ship
Starting point is 04:17:59 before the fucking journey through hysteria is through? Well, we shall find out these numbers were compiled by WrestleMania 1, quarter one, the recap of last week's events, including the made-up room with the mystery window and no door, followed by John Moxley and Wheeler Yuda versus Hook and Orange Cassidy with picture and picture 966,000 viewers.
Starting point is 04:18:30 Jesus Christ, again, they get handed a million people every week and they can't fucking keep them to save their life because it's this dreck with these children. And as you're reading these things, you're going to see why we're not watching the rest of this show. And pockets on first again, and the plumber. That's not foreboding well for the rest of the program.
Starting point is 04:18:54 No, and I wish I hadn't watched it if I knew you weren't going to watch it, but quarter two... Well, I was going to watch it until I watched this fucking, the bicycle races. Quarter two, 815 to 8.30 p.m. The continuation of Moxley and Utah versus Hooking Cassidy, an ad break, and the swerve-strickland Adam Page Live promo, which may have been the one other thing on this episode I probably thought you should have watched, but that segment, 842,000 viewers. Jesus. Christ on a cracker,
Starting point is 04:19:25 124,000 people said, fuck it. Pockets. Pockets and the young bucks, you know, most at a time are the things that the next segment, either the continuation of segment one or just the next segment after them, there's a big drop. You lose people.
Starting point is 04:19:46 And the women. Pockets, the bucks, and the women. Yeah, I thought you meant you lost the women. but they don't have any of those to begin with. They lost those a long time to go. So, by the average, they can't... They can't really go too much further, Ken. They will go ahead.
Starting point is 04:20:02 Well, quarter three, 8.30 to 8.45 p.m. The Roderick-strong Adam Cole backstage conversation on the monitor... Once again, they went to the monitor by just pressing a button on the phone as quickly as possible. Plus the beginning, or I guess the entirety, of sky blue versus red velvet, with picture and picture, 813,000 viewers. Well, there goes another
Starting point is 04:20:29 29,000. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. A Miro video, an ad break, Mariah May meeting Tony Storm backstage in both color and black and white. Samoa Joe
Starting point is 04:20:48 versus Joe Cruz and Tony Khan and Brian Danielson backstage for Tony Khan announcing, was this where he made the announcement or is this just a recap of that? But the upcoming Round Robin G1 style
Starting point is 04:21:04 tournament that's coming to AEW. Oh, good Lord. They're going to... Or champions carnival, depending on what you prefer. That's going to confuse the fuck out of everybody that hasn't watched Japanese wrestling for 30 years straight. It's going to be very interesting, especially
Starting point is 04:21:20 who's going to be in these brackets, but we'll get there. And that is very intricately booked going back to the days of Baba in the 80s, right? Is Tony up to something like that, or is he just going to, you know, put matches together and it's not going to fucking come out right? With rare exceptions, like when Hara had to leave all Japan due to his gambling issues and Kawata filled in with Tenru and they got to the finals, other than something like that, or Jimmy Snooker and Bruce of Brody just walking off the train and not coming back to New Japan. And usually I believe these were all planned out well in advance with the idea of whatever
Starting point is 04:21:58 happens there furthering other things in the company going forward. Oh yeah, Tony will be all over this. Okay, go ahead. Quarter four. Quarter four, that was quarter four, 808,000 viewers. Five more. So they're, they've stopped some of the momentum that they're dropping yet, but they're still dropping. Now they're at the top of the nine o'clock hour.
Starting point is 04:22:20 Where do we go from here? Quarter five, the big nine. 9 o'clock hour, the young bucks. Oh boy. Versus commander and Penta Elzero meado. Yeah, it's another reason why we ain't watching this shit. With picture and picture and their family in the front row, 812,000 viewers.
Starting point is 04:22:39 So a big bump for the 9 o'clock hour with the bucks. A big bump of plus 4,000 people for the 9 o'clock hour and these guys in their hometown. Well, we now go to quarter... I believe they got a little further to fall, don't they? Quarter six, the big 9.15 hour. Young boxing Kenny Omega backstage, followed by the guns versus Jacoby Wyatt's and Peter Avalon, followed by a Wardlow video,
Starting point is 04:23:12 and the first three minutes of the Dragon Guiden street fight match, or whatever it was, 804,000 viewers. Jesus. So the Bucks effect is in full effect. The Bucks show up on a screen, they lose viewers. They basically lost
Starting point is 04:23:36 twice as many as they gained at the top of the hour, 8,000. So now we're at our official lowest point in the show. In an hour and a half, they've lost 162,000 viewers. Well, we will now go to quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The big 9.45 quarter. Cota Ibushi, Paul White, Chris Jericho, and Kenny Omega versus Brian Cage, Konosuke Takesta, Kyle Fletcher, and Powerhouse Hobbs, the continuation of that match,
Starting point is 04:24:06 with picture-in-picture twice, 783,000 viewers. Main event, garbage match, people risking their fucking health. doing a bunch of phony looking shit, loses them another 21,000 people with all their main event talent in this fucking thing and their new sinee. And finally, quarter eight, and we do have an overrun here, I'll get to.
Starting point is 04:24:32 Quarter eight, the conclusion of the big eight-man tag guidance street fight, an ad break, and MJF's live promo and confrontation with Jay White leading to the overrun of one minute of the bullet club gold attacking and beating down MJF. Oh, Jesus. So he gets laid out again this week. Well, to end the show, but again, if you have a DVR, you may have missed it.
Starting point is 04:24:57 764,000 for quarter eight, and for the one-minute overrun, 759,000. Oh, my God, the people now that want to watch the fucking program that follows AEW or tuning in five minutes late so they don't have to see any of it. Turner time. Good Lord. So they ended up, they lost that match as it was going on and even with MJF afterwards. They lost another 19,000 people and the overrun put them 207,000 below where they started the program, which is more than 20%.
Starting point is 04:25:38 I know you didn't watch, but I didn't see any mention or any actual physical bottles of Rick Flair's energy drink. I didn't hear it mentioned during the bicycle races, and you would think that you could, you know, drink some of those alien spore mushrooms, and it would help you ride the bicycle better. Maybe that's what old Cota's problem was. He hadn't stocked up on any goddamn Rick Flair drip before he went out there. Is that his drip or is his drink?
Starting point is 04:26:08 No, that's his bullshit weed brand that apparently gets better used. His drink is not a drip. His drip is his weed. And his drink is mushrooms. Well, they announced they had... What does he sell with heroin in it? Well, they announced they had a deal with Rick Flair, and then they announced they had a sponsorship deal with his energy drink,
Starting point is 04:26:24 and then we have not seen or heard either on TV again, since all the fans raised a stick about it. But I mean, if they signed the deal, if they signed the deal, they're going to have to do it unless they didn't sign the deal. And what did you say, Brian, if you got a deal with no deal, that's not a deal. A deal without a deal isn't a deal. That's right. Well, those were the dynamite ratings
Starting point is 04:26:46 Another banner week for AEW Speaking of Hammer Time But we don't have the ratings yet For collision against Survivor Series, do we? No, no, those are The Holy Grail of ratings right now. Those are coming up, but we do have last week's dynamite that's finally been revealed to the public.
Starting point is 04:27:06 It had to be, these ratings had to be put out in a plain brown wrapper, for those of you old enough to remember, when you had to order your smut through the mail like God intended it. How much smut? All right, go ahead. I'm sorry. Hold on.
Starting point is 04:27:19 How much smut did you order through the mail? I know where you were living. There was a variety of smut that got ordered through the mail back in those days before you had just the unlimited smut machine called the internet. And that's why they sent it to you at a plain brown wrapper. That's how everybody knew when you got a plain brown envelope, you were ordering fucking dittle material. All right, well, let's talk about Tony Kahn's dittling of himself.
Starting point is 04:27:47 As a matter of fact, sometimes when you went to school back in those days, you stuck a plain brown wrapper in your, in with your school books so the other kids would think you were cool. When I was in second grade, one of the kids came in with these pens that if you turn them upside down, the girl in the bikini, the bikini, like the ink in the bikini, just like it goes away. Yes. I have a vintage one of those from the 50s with it. It looks like Gypsy Rose Lee, but I could be wrong. Yeah, this was vintage too, and then the teacher took it. Set him away. Well, God damn her.
Starting point is 04:28:18 That's worth a lot of money these days. Well, she wasn't a collector, but of course, Tony Kahn is a collector of wrestlers. AEW Dynamite Gym this past week. Wednesday, November 22nd on TBS. You're laughing already. I'm having fun. We're having fun. Just like AEW.
Starting point is 04:28:36 We're having fun. Everyone should have a good time. Give me a number. 845,000 viewers on average. And, Jesus, do they have these same people strapped to a chair every week? It's 835, it's 825, it's 825, it's 845. They're consistent, I'll give them that, but where'd they start and where'd they wind up? Well, let me make a note here, according to Resslemics, this was Dynamite's highest total
Starting point is 04:29:04 viewership since October 18th, but in the key demo 18 to 49, viewership was the lowest since October 25th. Okay. So they're running off the... Well, they're running off Uncle Dave's group. The young kids and children, the 18 to 49ers, the hip cats that swing and groove and jive. Paint their hair red.
Starting point is 04:29:35 Paint their hair different colors. It doesn't have to be red. It could be one color one day and one color the next day. Well, Jim, let's go to the ratings right now. These were Compile My Wrestling. Sometime when the light catches it, it fucking, it just, it looks like a kaleidoscope. She's like a rain. Oh, the colors of her hair.
Starting point is 04:29:58 They're everywhere. It's like an old woman suddenly decided to look younger. Well, let's see if Tony Kahn came in colors this week. Quarter one. That's because when he had juries. He blew a blood vessel. Once again, these were compiled by Russellnomics. Oh, they were?
Starting point is 04:30:20 Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. once again, November 22nd on TBS. Jay Lethal versus Swerp. Strecklin with picture and picture. 971,000 viewers. Jesus, Mary and Joseph were outing a camel. If they started there, the big bangers are coming back around. the Big Bang must be doing a heck of a number, but they started there and their average is 845. We are about to...
Starting point is 04:30:51 Is this going to be a slalom? Is it going to plum it straight down, or would you take any twists and turns first? We shall find out. Here's quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m. The continuation of Lethal v. Strickland, the Wheeler Yuda confrontation with Orange Cassidy Hook and Shibata...
Starting point is 04:31:11 Shibata. She bought her, she bought her. The man whose brain returned. Also, MJF and Adam Cole begin their confrontation with Samoa Joe. How did it find its way back, I wonder, on its own? They removed it, I guess. Well, they had to remove it from the cord.
Starting point is 04:31:30 But anyway. So somebody was still in charge of it. They didn't just leave it to wander around. 948,000 viewers. Okay, that is a shocking, surprised because one would have thought that they would have lost about 100,000 of those right off the bat. And let me just say, that's also the high point in the key demo, 382,000 viewers.
Starting point is 04:31:54 And I think that may be the swerve-strictland effect. And again, you know, they never keep a large number like that through the second quarter when they get it handed to them. They always plummet. So, bravo, swervo. Well, let's go to quarter three. I know more swervo as we're not calling him. Swirvo is done now.
Starting point is 04:32:17 Let's go from swervo to swerly, the continuation of the MJF Adam Cole, Samoa Joe live promo. Oh boy. An ad break. Jake Hager, Matt Menard, and Angelo Parker versus Hook. Shibata, the man with the return brain,
Starting point is 04:32:32 and Orange Cassidy, with picture and picture ads. 862,000 viewers. Okay, again, I have to be completely honest. I would have thought that after MJF and Cole, they would have lost more than that. Maybe we're starting to see that erosion. But again, with 971, 948, and 862, and an average of 845, it sounds like that's entertainment is headed toward the end of the program.
Starting point is 04:33:07 Go ahead. Well, speaking of 845, quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. the continuation of the six-man tag match that I'm not gonna name all the participants of again. Yeah. The Cole Roddy Strong Kingdom backstage angle, an ad break, and the beginning of the Christian Cage ceremony,
Starting point is 04:33:28 or live promo, whatever it was, 859,000 viewers. Okay. Apparently, now what's coming up is either a plague of locust, Or a goddamn existential crisis like an asteroid hitting the Earth. Well, there was a big asteroid that night. I can't believe they're this far up in that first hour.
Starting point is 04:33:56 Well, quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The continuation of Christian Cage's promo with Nick Wayne, Luchosaurus, Nick Wayne's mom, and eventually Adam Copeland. and then the Matt Menard, Angela Parker, Jake Hager, Anna J. Backstage Angle, leading into Roosh versus Jay White
Starting point is 04:34:21 920,000 viewers. Wait, what? Okay. Massive power failure on the East Coast is coming up. I don't know how in the world they gained for that. but this ain't adding up.
Starting point is 04:34:45 Where are we going? Three more quarter hours. What the hell is going on here? End and overrun. End and overrun. Quarter six, Jim, 9.15 and 9.30 p.m. The continuation of Roosh versus Jay White with picture and picture ads and then an ad break. 799,000 viewers.
Starting point is 04:35:08 Oh, okay. So, 129,000. thousand people all of a sudden said fuck jay white and rush i mean but still they've got they've still got 800,000 people watching this rotten program and the first five quarters were better than they had any right to be so if they can they can keep around 800,000 but i'm still having a problem doing this this math where are they going from here they're going to quarter seven i believe 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. The Ricky Stark's Big Bill, Chris Jericho, backstage angle.
Starting point is 04:35:48 The Tony Storm ceremony, whatever that was. And then the beginning of Ruby Soho versus Anna J versus Sky Blue with picture and picture ads. I don't mean to laugh. But what do you expect here? 746,000 viewers.
Starting point is 04:36:11 Okay. Well, again, this is not as bad as I had contemplated it would be, because they only lost another 53,000. That brings it to 100 and... Wait a minute, I can't do that much math in my head. 174,000 people left in a half an hour. They've done that before. Once again, we have an overrun here,
Starting point is 04:36:34 but quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. The continuation of Ruby Soho versus Anna J. versus Sky Blue. And the postmatch. The Wardlow AR Fox backstage confrontation. I forgot to watch that, by the way. And then the beginning of Mark Briscoe versus John Moxley with picture and picture ads. 733,000 viewers. The Moxley effect.
Starting point is 04:37:02 Seven minute overrun, Jim. 10 to 10.107 p.m. Mark Briscoe versus John Moxley Now hold on now the overrun is always higher than the last quarter of their show because it's people tuning in to watch the program they think is coming on at that point in time and generally that's
Starting point is 04:37:19 you know a larger number apparently so this should be larger I guess right Well again it's a seven minute overrun 6888,000 viewers Oh Jesus Christ 12 45,000 more people said fuck Moxley, their main event guy, their big time tough guy
Starting point is 04:37:44 that drinks bones and eats blood. So, now get your calculator out there, Brian. Oh, don't start this again. Come on. Well, if they started with 971,000 and they ended up with 68,000, that is a loss of 200 and 883,000 people and what's 283
Starting point is 04:38:18 times 4? 283 times 4 3 million No, it's goddamn not. No, no, no, 1,132. 1,0,1,332. So that would be 1,000,000.
Starting point is 04:38:35 So they lost somewhere around, 22% or so are thereabouts of their original audience, I guess. I don't know how to do that math. But gee, many, again, what other program does this? Smackdown doesn't do it. Rawl loses that many people, but not that percentage because they're starting with so many more,
Starting point is 04:39:02 and it's three hours. It goes to 11 o'clock at night. but and we've talked about in days gone by back when wrestling was supposed to be so boring according to these people the main event the last match gained viewers didn't lose you gained more you ended up with more than you started with and that was raw in the attitude era blah blah blah and now this was a gift that they got the first five quarters they got until people said, well, fuck, is this what's going to be the, you know, the rest of the night? Good Lord.
Starting point is 04:39:46 You know what the saddest thing is? I mean, it's all, again, it's all self-induced. It's all Tony's own fault. Tony thought he knew better than everyone. I can't see anything right now to fix all this because of the problem being where, you know, it's at the top. Well, and remember, I said that, and J.J. Dillon wrote about this. when he wrote his book and said that he was, you know, privy to the fact that Flair and the horseman
Starting point is 04:40:16 asked him to go because he was also working as Dusty's assistant Booker, but he was their manager, he was in the office, he was experienced, go to Jimmy Crockett and basically say we think we need to win more, we need to get more heat because if we'd lose this thing, it's harder to get back than it is to maintain it. And I said that's with wrestling. It's harder to get something back once you've lost it than it is to maintain it. And the more you hot shot or the more in Tony's case, you just go, I can't call this hot shoting. I don't know what it is, weird shotting.
Starting point is 04:40:59 You're just losing more of it and losing more of it. And it's not easy to get it back. Sometimes you don't. And this may be here. His point at this juncture, we know the audience that will watch for free is what this is. And it hasn't grown. It's shrunk somewhat slightly since the start. They're selling fewer tickets.
Starting point is 04:41:25 I don't know what kind of pay-per-view attraction they've got, but sooner or later, these people are going to, you know, how many times can we spend $50? But just the, who's he got to sign? Who's he got to get? he just signed edge and we're talking about the end of the fucking end times of the company he signs edge
Starting point is 04:41:48 and they debut or re-debue Orton and Punk in the same night and you know we're trending talking about something the guy that he fired did that got tons more attention than us talking about it I just can't get over how long people ignored what we said
Starting point is 04:42:08 because you were funny or said things they didn't like about wrestlers they love and the excuses were the video game is going to save the company were the company's worth
Starting point is 04:42:20 a billion dollars or Tony's going to be able to get a television rights deal that's going to be so astronomical it'll make it all worth it or they're going to beat
Starting point is 04:42:31 raw in the ratings and it was not a quick thing but But if you were paying attention objectively, you saw this all happening. And now we're at this point where we're questioning, how could they save their company? It's going to exist. I don't mean to save it from going out of business.
Starting point is 04:42:51 Unless Tony's dad says enough, and I don't think he's going to right now, this is going to keep going. Even if it's on, you know, some online platform because there's a television deal. It's going to keep going. The direction is yet to be determined. But I don't know It's just AEW is such a disappointment because of that
Starting point is 04:43:12 Because of what, you know You said it early on And I think it becomes more More apparent As time goes on It was the opportunity This was the opportunity We may never get it again
Starting point is 04:43:24 God bless Tony Kahn He was the wrong person To be in charge of this Yeah He was the right person to pay for it And the absolute wrong person To give the fucking Keys to
Starting point is 04:43:35 And let him drive and you know that's it's why i didn't take it seriously from the start because i heard him talk to me and i listened to the words he said isn't this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and he doesn't realize it and a hundred million dollars apparently will buy you a lot of fucking smoke and mirrors but at some point when everything starts falling apart because you haven't put any fucking curbs or guardrails on it and you don't know how how you got there really anyway, and it was kind of haphazard to begin with,
Starting point is 04:44:13 and now shit, how do I get out of all this mess? And meanwhile, the, you know, the Uranus Corporation over there that's worth tens of billions of dollars is just pummeling you with stars and fucking professionalism. You know, that's one of the things, too. We've gone through a lot of audio recently. Jay Snackarado or Jay Sharknato, as he's known, Incognito, has a special just for omnibus season? Where is Cognito and how often is he there? It's in Ontario. And he's been going through a lot of the stuff for omnibus season. You know, so many of the things
Starting point is 04:44:51 we both said in the early days. You know, I thought what was going to do MEEW was, without even knowing too much about what Tony Con was going to do. So rich kid being given unlimited funds, there's no serious management in place. And look at the problems that have happened since. but a lot of people wanted to turn the other way. They wanted the will Tony to success. They wanted to will their favorite wrestlers to getting American time to work their favorite style of matches. No one's happy now.
Starting point is 04:45:24 Even the AEW fans are now split. No one's happy now. And how do we end this show on a happy note? Well, it's my show. So all the way, here's the thing. Here's who's happy. Punk is happy. instead of being on a show on Saturday night
Starting point is 04:45:41 that didn't get as many viewers as our clip talking about what he did on Saturday night got, he's getting millions and millions of YouTube views for walking out and waving to people. And that's when he does something, people talk about it. And then people talk about the people that are talking about it. And they're goddamn going back and forth. He, everything Triple H said.
Starting point is 04:46:08 He gets attention. He makes people talk. He starts conversations. He creates debates. And that's what you want. If you're in goddamn any type of professional sport or entertainment business where you sell tickets or get people to watch television. And that's what Tony couldn't figure out. Is he finally got one of them things, one of them ratings people that he always wanted.
Starting point is 04:46:37 and he couldn't see that his fucking hand-chosen EVPs that he had fallen into that bubble didn't want the guy around because he showed him up. And so they fucked with him and pushed his buttons, and he's not a person that likes that. And then created all the gaga. And then Tony was so afraid of a conference. of any kind where he has to be the boss and somebody might not be his friend because he's mean to him he let it go completely out of control and then finally when the guy punk said fuck you i'm gonna front
Starting point is 04:47:22 face lock the jungle jack off and yelled at tony is a little romper room contingent one see you got to get rid of him so he fires him keeps the rest of them and now you've got one guy suspended, Jack Perry, he's not even on the television, and nobody gives a fuck if he comes back. The two other EVPs that got in the original dressing room dust up are so not over now and people are sub-bored with them that they're having to take time away and come back with a new gimmick and a faction
Starting point is 04:47:58 because nobody gives a shit. And all of their friends still have jobs where we have to look at them on television, just because they went to school with the Buccaroos, and they do no ratings. This is what Tony got, and this is the people that Tony was telling me that he was going to be in business with
Starting point is 04:48:20 when I talked to him in 20-fucking 18. And I knew this day would come. I just didn't realize how long $100 million would bluff you. Do we know how many people watch this episode? How am 800 and what thousand people? watched this television show, and did they lose 20%, 25 or 30% of the audience they start with? Well, we do have the ratings, Jim, for AEW Dynamite on TBS, November 29th, a Wednesday. Of course it was.
Starting point is 04:48:53 AW. Dynamite on TBS was watched on average by 858,000 viewers. It's got to have an eight in front of it these days. We're down to the most ardent admirers. They were up 2% compared the last week's total viewership of 845,000 viewers. Well, bless their little peepick and hearts. Where'd they start? Well, these ratings were compiled by WrestleMania 8-15 p.m., J. Lethal versus John Moxley with Picture and Picture, 969,000 viewers. You chagin'in, the big bangers. They come in, but they don't stay.
Starting point is 04:49:37 well quarter two 815 830 p.m. The stay of Lethal versus Moxley and then an Eddie Kingston promo backstage. That was the one where his giant beach ball stomach was stuck out and the angle they shot. No, I mean, it's the production people. That they allowed that camera angle and they allowed that tape to air. It's their fault.
Starting point is 04:50:01 It's not his fault for having a big stomach. It's their fault for fucking accentuating it. followed by an ad break, followed by Sting and Rick Flair's backstage promo, 894,000 viewers. Okay, so the Moxley effect loses them 75,000 people before they can show everybody Rick Flair and Sting. And then we go to quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m. A match in the Continental Classic Tournament, Mark Briscoe versus Roosh, with people. and picture and picture ads, and Tony Storm's backstage segment, 876,000 viewers. And that lost another 18,000, not bad considering what was involved.
Starting point is 04:50:53 We are now involved with quarter four, MJF's live promo with Samoa Joe and the Devil's involvement, an ad break, and the beginning of AR5. versus Wardlow, 882,000 viewers. So therein lies the MJF effect, which we once talked about, as it would be the highest rated quarter of the show, and now he gains 6,000 viewers. That's what this MJF is doing to the reputation of the old MJF. And by the way, 9 o'clock, while we're in the middle of AR, Fox and Wardlow,
Starting point is 04:51:34 where do they go at nine, up or down? Well, the big nine o'clock hour, Jim, 9 to 9.15 p.m., quarter five. The finish of AR Fox versus Wardlow, Brother Zay and the Hardee's versus Action Andretti on Top Flight with picture and picture ads, 834,000 viewers.
Starting point is 04:51:58 So, Jesus cried, they lose 48,000 on a quarter of, involving Matt and Jeff Hardy, but with their presentation, as we've discussed many times these days, not surprising. So now the 9 o'clock hours, the low point of the program so far, and they've lost 135,000 viewers from the start. But wait, there's more. Okay. Quarter six, 915 to 9.30 p.m. an ad break Top Flight and the Lucha Brothers
Starting point is 04:52:31 and El Hijo del Vikingo's backstage angle It was Vikinggo Julia Hart versus Emmy Saccuro with picture and picture ads and Mariah May's backstage segment
Starting point is 04:52:43 Good Lord 789,000 viewers Hold on they got a gift there that is 34,000 45,000 people they lost for that segment that's a fucking gift
Starting point is 04:52:55 that should have been below 600. Well, we then go to quarter 7, 930, and 9.45 p.m. The endless Christian Cage live promo and angle with Adam Copeland, as well as an ad break, 832,000 viewers. Okay, so Christian and Edge get back. 43,000 of the 45,000 of the previous clowns lost. But therein lies of price. Now they know they've seen MJF, they've seen Edge, they've seen Christian, we got two heels
Starting point is 04:53:30 wrestling. Why would we emotionally want to see either one of them win? That is a meaningless match. I predict doom and gloom for the eighth quarter. Well, we have the eighth quarter, 9.45 to 10 p.m. as well as a three-minute overrun. In the Continental Classic Jim, Swerve Strickland versus Jay White with picture and picture ads. 90,000 viewers, and for the three-minute overrun, 826,000 viewers. Okay, 790 again is a gift. That means they only lost 42,000.
Starting point is 04:54:07 And I can't believe that many people stuck with it at the end. The overrun is the next program's audience that they didn't know that they were going to see three minutes of this wrestling match. And so you can't really say that suddenly 36,000 extra people, switched over to watch the last three minutes of this. So maybe now we know why Tony's doing it and not scheduling it because that extra 36,000 people in some way increased their average, did it not? I would think so. We would actually have to sit here and do the math, which we know how to do the math.
Starting point is 04:54:47 But so is he doing this without telling the viewers? Because that way that gives them an artificial bump at the end? because from start to finish of the scheduled program, they lost 179,000 people. Remember, Dave said the plan, and I'm doing air quotes, the plan from AEW was to not ask for an allotted extra 10 minutes. To just ask the network as they go that they need an extra few minutes. That's interesting.
Starting point is 04:55:19 If it is a concerted effort by Tony Kahn to artificially boost the number because he could clearly wrap the show up before then if you wanted to. And why do something that you're going to do on television you want people to see and then not tell anybody that where they might miss it. Who's timing out the show?
Starting point is 04:55:39 Whose job is at the time out to show? QT. Marshall just quit. So maybe it's in the hands of, you know, fucking Ben. Who's on the clock? Ben. Ben's at Gorilla. Whatever the fuck. Hey, listen, Alvarez said it in that clip. Wasn't always perfect.
Starting point is 04:55:54 Every now and that something happened, but for four years, they got it right with at least ending the show on time. Now they can't do it any week. Or announcing when they would be commercial free and or when they would have an overrun. But the point is they lost $179,000 from the start to the finish, $179,000 out of $9,069,000 is $20,000. More than 20% right?
Starting point is 04:56:25 Or maybe not. Well, nevertheless, I don't know how to do the math, but it's somewhere around there. It's less than 20%. It's about 20%. Are you trying to figure this out? I'm looking to see if there's anything in Russellnomics' data here, but I'm quickly scrolling through things. I don't even know what I'm looking at.
Starting point is 04:56:45 Well, now just get your calculator and punch in 179,000 divided by, 969,000 and the answer will come to you. But that was dynamite. So what were the extensively bad ratings for the dynamite of December the 6th, a famous man's birthday who will soon be a national holiday? A.W. Dynamite for December 6, 2023 on TBS, from 8 to 10.02 p.m. two minutes they're just two minutes and they could have got it in did 823,000 viewers on average
Starting point is 04:57:30 okay is it's literally the same people 823 835 852 this is this is who they can't run off at this point I think that would be maybe a way to look at it AEW can't run these people off but this is going to be an interesting well they get they can they can run them off through the course of the show, but they will still come back next week to give them another chance. If there was ever an episode to run people off, this may have been one of them. The show opened, and these were compiled by WrestleMania. 8 to 8.15 p.m. quarter one, John Moxley versus Rush, with picture and picture ads.
Starting point is 04:58:12 983,000 viewers. Wow, okay, they're going to, they're going to lose a lot of people on this program. Well, we shall see Quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m. The continuation of Moxley versus Roosh. The match that would not end. Followed by the promo that would not end. Roddy Strong and the Kingdom's ramp promo
Starting point is 04:58:36 and an ad break 878,000 viewers. Oh, Jesus. Okay, 105,000 people. And that, honestly, as bad as that match was, that that ain't bad well we got a quarter 3 830 to 845 p.m.
Starting point is 04:58:56 The Adam Page MJF confrontation in the back and the beginning of Mark Briscoe versus swerve Strickland with picture and picture ads 835,000 viewers okay another 43,000 people
Starting point is 04:59:14 and that makes it 148,000 in 45 minutes have jumped ship. They've almost, at this point, they've almost got to come back somewhere for the average that they got. Well, we'll see where they come in quarter four. Where they come?
Starting point is 04:59:32 We'll see who comes in quarter four. Quarter four, eight forty five to nine p.m., the last six minutes of Swerve versus briscoe, the Mariah May promo, Samoa Joe's live... I skipped that, by the way, sorry. You didn't miss nothing. Samoa Joe's live angle. which is what it says here, which is where the devil's associates surrounded the ring, and there was a big disco with the lights going out and the lights going on, and MJF was hurt,
Starting point is 04:59:58 followed by Moxley's promo, 794,000 viewers. Oh, good Lord. Another 41,000 people bringing our total that we have lost from the start of the program to the end of the first hour to 189,000 fans. But wait, there's more. Quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The Ben Mancowitz introduction for Tony Storm versus Sky Blue with picture and picture ads. 791,000 viewers.
Starting point is 05:00:39 And three more thousand. Okay, now they've lost 192, and I'm trying to figure out how they're going to make their average. We go to quarter six, nine, 15, and nine. 9.30 p.m. An ad break. Christian and Adam Cage. A Christian Cage, Adam Copeland video. And the start of Jay Lethal versus Jay White with picture and picture ads.
Starting point is 05:01:03 723,000 viewers. Ah. That's 260,000 viewers. And obviously the low point of the program. And what's next? Well, next is... Quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The final three minutes of Lethal versus White, an ad break, and the start of Edge versus Christian,
Starting point is 05:01:31 765,000 viewers. Okay, here we go, and people just said, fuck this, let me know when Edge and Christian is on. Now they've gained 42,000 back, and I would imagine Quarter 8 will be higher still. and we go to quarter eight and also we have a two-minute overrun Edge versus Christian with picture and picture ads 945 to 10 p.m. 8707,000 viewers and the two-minute overrun 860,000 viewers. Okay, well I don't believe 53,000 people switched on
Starting point is 05:02:09 specifically because Nick Wayne's mom popped up on the screen so that was whatever the fuck was going to happen with the following program. And some people said, well, the following program didn't get 800,000 people watching it. No dumb shits. But if even 53,000 people tune in thinking they're going to see that, that would account for this. we already had 807,000 to begin with.
Starting point is 05:02:41 They lost 260,000 at the worst of it. They ended up $123, no, I'm sorry, they ended the regular program, $176,000 below where they started. And the only reason that they came back from the depths of despair in the last two quarters was because they had two of the only big stars they got left having a match for the first time in people's memory. Imagine if they just held an audience throughout the show. I mean, that's the thing they can't do.
Starting point is 05:03:16 you start to show with some optimism. What's it going to be this week? You give the first match a little bit of a chance. What's it going to be? What else is on this show? When you quickly start realizing what it is, again, unless you're, like a super hardcore fan,
Starting point is 05:03:33 who wants to see Jay White versus Jay Lethal? Right now. No one. Not for 20 fucking minutes or whatever. It's going to be in all these tournament. And that's another thing with the time management. Edge and Christian wasn't a tournament match and they had plenty of time. They could have done that two minutes earlier.
Starting point is 05:03:53 Tony's thinking that he's getting credit, I guess, for this fucking overrun. He's artificially inflating his fucking number at the expense of people who miss the anger. And it's not that it won't look like a real sport if it doesn't, if it suddenly goes off the air right at the right time. If you'll recall
Starting point is 05:04:17 there's been many times on Raw, which was a live program, or when SmackDown became live, that the finish and the angle would happen five or six minutes beforehand, before the
Starting point is 05:04:33 end of the show, because Vince always wanted time for the react to get the reaction of the person who was wronged and the person who got away with it and to replay the treacherous incident and for the announcers to talk about what this means in the overall scheme of things
Starting point is 05:04:51 and then you're going to see a shot of the doctor at ringside if necessary and then folks we're out of time we direct you to next week to tune in and see what's going to happen that makes it more important and reinforces what you've just done in people's minds so you could end a little early and do that on an angle but don't run your angles over to where either the DVR crowd didn't go to see them or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 05:05:19 just because you're getting an artificial bump in a ratings loophole and that's the only reason this could be. You know the problem is the person who from day one bragged
Starting point is 05:05:33 about being the one to write the TV is the one writing the TV and right now he's doing worse than he ever has before and even the best bookers would have burned out by now probably or at least needed
Starting point is 05:05:42 an extended time out and if they own the company would have been easy to do that. Yeah, but he's burnt out and didn't have good shit to begin with, and now it's shit he's done before, and or his worst instincts. And who watched this fiasco with these wonderful tournament matches that mean nothing to their business? Let's go to the numbers here, the AEW ratings.
Starting point is 05:06:05 800 and what thousand? AEW Dynamite for December 13th, these were compiled by WrestleManiaomics. AEDDynamite on average was watched by 845. thousand viewers. There you go. Does it have the last several weeks on your graph there? I don't want you to go looking. It doesn't have it in front of me. Okay, but it's 835. It's 825. It's 845. It's 845. You got to say one thing about them. They're consistent. They do an 800 and something average. They start out with almost a million. They end up with barely 700,000. Every week. Keep that number in mind, 845, because it's a very interesting story here this week. Okay. Let me see. Let me see.
Starting point is 05:06:47 start by telling you because Russellnomics has this. The Big Bang Theory at 730 averaged 1,157,000 viewers. So the Big Bang Theory, which is reruns of a situation comedy from years ago, in non-prime
Starting point is 05:07:09 a time slot, in a primetime adjacent time slot, does almost one 2 million viewers, but the first-run program that they air in their entire, well, two hours of their three-hour primetime block averages over 300,000 less than that. That doesn't look good to me right there, but go ahead. Quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m., the Samoa Joe, Adam Page, Roderick Strong Live promo, and angle, followed by the beginning of Roddy Strong versus Adam Page with picture and picture
Starting point is 05:07:51 1,098,000 viewers. Oh my God. Okay. So, for the first time in a long time, they start out with over a million viewers, and they've still lost 59,000 from the Big Bang, but there's a bunch of big bangers still there. Where do we go from here? Now that all the children have grown up. We bang on to quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m.
Starting point is 05:08:23 The continuation of Strong versus Page, an ad break, and the start of Andrade El Edelow versus Brody King, 868,000 viewers. Oh! That's, um... That's 230,000 in 15 minutes? Okay, so maybe there was something in the water on the eastern seaboard that paralyzed people's legs at 8 o'clock and prevented them from standing up and leaving the room or something. And Jim, at this point, let me give you this number that Russellnomics provided.
Starting point is 05:09:04 Excluding the first quarter hour, the one million, you know, that's all the way over the top there, the total viewership would be 810,000. compared to 840,000. So in terms of how much that first quarter and whatever is left over from the Big Bang helps, helped by 30,000 in the average there. Yeah. You know, again, when you're looking at AEW and where they are, there's a lot of artificial things that somehow boost the number up a little bit, but if you get past that, it's not a pretty picture.
Starting point is 05:09:36 Let's go back to quarter three. The continuation of Andrade L. Edelow versus Brody King with picture and picture. 874,000 viewers. Well, they got 6,000 back out of the 230. We now go to 845 to 9 p.m. quarter for the Kevin and Ross and Marshall-Vinera confrontation with Orange Cassidy, Trent Beretta, and Danhausen, an ad break,
Starting point is 05:10:06 and Chris Jericho and Kenny Omega the Winnipeg Jets confrontation with Big Billy Starks, 888,000 viewers and the second highest in the key demo. But 888,000 viewers. So their basically biggest name ex-WE star and their biggest elite fellow team up and get an extra 14,000 viewers. And the question is,
Starting point is 05:10:40 where do they go from here because it was so bad? Did anybody sit through this? Well, everyone wanted to see what was going to happen at the big 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 9 15 p.m. quarter 5. A recap, followed by Reho versus Ruby Soho. Oh, here we go. And the people are about to go. With picture and picture and a post match with timeless Tony Storm, followed by a Wardlow video and another ad break,
Starting point is 05:11:09 8,4,000 viewers. All right, so 84,000 people said we've seen enough, and as I'm looking at their average, with these numbers, I have a feeling that the attrition is beginning to start in earnest. Well, it continues in earnest in quarters 6, 9.15, and 9.30 p.m. J. Lethal v. Roosh, a sore of Strickland John Moxley video, And Mark Briscoe versus Jay White, 771,000 viewers. Not as bad as I was afraid.
Starting point is 05:11:48 That's only another 33,000. Well, we go from there to quarter seven, 9.30. I see, they've got more room to fall. Well, 930 to 945, quarter 7, Mark Briscoe versus Jay White continued, with picture and picture ads, an ad break, a final battle video. and main event entrances for the next match, 725,000 viewers. And there went another 46,000.
Starting point is 05:12:20 Now they have, since the top of the 9 o'clock hour, they've gone from 804,000 to 725,000, but that's not as bad as the first hour where they lost 210,000 total viewers from where they started. So, and they're down 300,000, and 73,000 from the start of the program. Well, we go to quarter eight, and we also have a five-minute overrun. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 05:12:51 9.45 to 10 p.m. John Moxley versus Swerve Strickle into a picture-in-picture. 755,000 viewers. Five-minute overrun, the conclusion of the match, and Adam Page attacked by the devil's friends, 772,000 viewers. And again, did 17,000 people just show up to watch the last four minutes of that match or they thought they were going to see something else? And that's the, I'm not saying that all 700-something thousand tuned into the,
Starting point is 05:13:24 there was enough people tuning into the next program that it made a difference of 17,000 people. But if they keep their something, they're going to be averaging under 800,000 pretty soon. not counting the first quarter's artificial bump? If you take quarter two is a real number instead of where they started, they still lost 98,000 people, but they didn't lose 300 and fucking,
Starting point is 05:13:58 what I say it was, 25,000 or whatever, from the start of the program to the end like they did in this, fucking deal. So, I... No MJF? Well, I mean, is that a difference maker these days? He's somewhat, but not like it was because...
Starting point is 05:14:19 He'd be a difference maker at 9 o'clock over Rio doing 804. Well, sure. But anybody would have made a difference over Rejo. Are you going to tell the people why we traveled through time? We made it all that way and we had to take a break because we couldn't leave the people, the cult of Cornett, our faithful listeners, all the way through the holidays, we knew they wouldn't be merry. We knew they wouldn't be jolly.
Starting point is 05:14:46 We then knew they wouldn't be happy or sleepy or doppy or doc or any of the other ones. We knew, unless they knew the ratings for that fiasco, we described here a short time ago. So we took a break and we hop through time and now we have the ratings. The ratings. My good sir. Once again, another big week of the Continental Classic, Jim. The ratings for AEW Dynamite? You know, by the way, somebody,
Starting point is 05:15:14 who was it on Twitter that says a Continental Classic is something that it sounds like a hooker gives you behind a truck stop? Oh, see, I saw breakfast on the road. I saw that one, too, at a diner. Yeah. Well, does it sound like a wrestling tournament? That is the question. AEDD dynamite on TBS, December 20th, 2023, on average.
Starting point is 05:15:34 watched by 782,000 viewers. Ouch, oh, oh, oh, so they proved us wrong. They finally, after all this time, Brian, proved us wrong because we've been saying 800 and what thousand, they have the faithful there, the sick, the shut in, the people that are chained to a table, tied to a chair, cannot reach the remote, whatever the case. But now we've lost some of those.
Starting point is 05:16:00 Was there any type of a plague or a mass extent? incident in any of the AEW hotbeds over the past week? Yes, it's called the Continental Classic. Okay, okay. Well, we begin, and I do not have the Big Bang Theory numbers here. If we are able to get them, we will time travel once again, or we will not. We'll see. But quarter one, Jim...
Starting point is 05:16:23 I think the Big Bang Theory is all about time travel. Why can't we have their fucking numbers on time? Well, these were compiled by WrestleMania. Jim, Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Roosh versus Swerve Strickland with picture and picture, 964,000 viewers. Okay, this does not bode well for their average, starting at that level and having an average in a sevens. But continue on, my boy.
Starting point is 05:16:55 Quarter two, 815 to 8.30 p.m. The continuation of Roush versus Swirv Strickland, a collision recap, an ad break, Chris Jericho's emotional backstage promo, and the start of Jay Lethal versus Mark Briscoe, 803,000 viewers. Oh, good Lord. So, 161,000 people at the start of it. Oh, fuck. All right.
Starting point is 05:17:29 Quarter 3, 830 to 845 p.m. the continuation of Lethal versus Briscoe in the Continental Classic with Picture and Picture Ads, the postmatch, and MJF's video, 795,000 viewers. Well, at least they slowed it down to a crawl on the viewer erosion and dropped another 8,000. Now that they gotta almost stay there somewhat, don't they, to even get to the this average. Well, we go to quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. An ad break, the Wardlow video, the Samoa Joe MJF Live promo, and attack by the devil's many, many, many friends.
Starting point is 05:18:18 The Orange Cassidy, Chris Stathlander, Rocky Romero, Trent Beretta, backstage angle. Whatever that was. I think I've zipped through that thinking it was a commercial for uterine repair. 7707.7.7.7. 79,000 viewers. 779,000. Well, that's another, that's another 16. Why are you laughing? Because you hit me with it. These fucking viewers are falling.
Starting point is 05:18:48 They're dropping like flies. This is not anything to laugh about and make merriment over. Well, we have the big nine o'clock hour, and we call it the big nine o'clock hour for a reason. Jim, the big nine o'clock hour, quarter five, nine. of Rejo. 9 to 9.15 p.m. Soraya versus Rejo. With picture and picture.
Starting point is 05:19:10 You have a little rattle there. Apparently you were not raised by family of yodlers. Because you had a rattle in there. You didn't get the clear. Rejo. Rejo. I'm under the weather a little. Where are we?
Starting point is 05:19:24 Postmatch. It sounds like you're under the tune. Picture in picture with post match and Tony Storm. Yes, postmatch. that should be somebody's fucking name. Post match? Let's get 227 pounds from Des Moines, Iowa. Here he is, folks.
Starting point is 05:19:40 Postmatch. Well, this quarter, and the postmatch in it, did 782,000 viewers. Oh, good gravy. Good gravy. Mama, mama. Good gravy. So they gained 3,000 viewers at the top of the,
Starting point is 05:19:58 the all-important 9 o'clock hour by featuring Well, we then go to Quote a little laudu Give me a Rickola. Can you do that? We now go to quarter 6, 915 to 9.30 p.m. We're taking a real serious this week, folks.
Starting point is 05:20:19 An ad break. Well, that's going to put the butts in seats. The ad break. MJF Samoa Joe backstage running into a mask on the floor and MJF and Swerve Strickland's backstage, talk, followed by Roderick Strong versus Commander, the start of it, 745,000 viewers.
Starting point is 05:20:43 Oh, so there went 37,000. We are now 200 and 19,000 down from where they started. Well, we got a quarter 7, 930 to 945 p.m. That red hot Roderick Strong versus Commander match, with picture and picture ads, and Roddy Strong's live promo, followed by an ad break, 700,000 viewers. Oh, good. Well, at least it's an even number. So we're now down 264,000. So what you're trying to tell me is by the math that I'm doing. Well, what I'm saying is here comes the star power and the overrun. I'm going to have to hit you here in a second with the how to we do the average of this again because that's that's just, well that's just rotten. Go ahead.
Starting point is 05:21:39 Well, here is quarter eight, Jim, and the overrun. In the Continental Classic, John Moxley versus Jay White, picture and picture ads, oh, I should say at 9.45 to 10 p.m., 709,000 viewers with a five-minute overrun, and the post-match with Swar Strickland coming out to say hello, 721,000 viewers. So...
Starting point is 05:22:04 So the Big Bang theory is giving them an artificial first quarter every single week, and we should just kind of look past that. Yeah, well, and also, before we bury the lead here, the plumber and his cohort there, the main event of the evening gained a whopping 9,000 viewers in a program that had lost... Well, if you talk about from quarter two, they still lost almost... a hundred, they'd lost over 100,000 until these Yehous came out, and then they picked up 9,000. And the overrun, what's, what's, what's a matter? It's just, it's hysterical. I mean, more people watch Rio than Moxley versus a slingshot over there.
Starting point is 05:22:48 Slingshot. Last quarter. Slingshot J. White. That's it from now. Somebody write that down. Remind me of that later on. Yes, uh, Reho beat the main event. by 82,000 people or 71,000, whatever the fuck. And again, last week, and then let's talk about the first quarter, but last week we said omit the overrun number because that's probably 10,000 people
Starting point is 05:23:20 that fucking wandered in trying to find it's a wonderful life or whatever was airing after the goddamn program was over with. So take it out the 964,000 in the first quarter, how would we do this and taking out the end of it? We would add 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, and 8, right?
Starting point is 05:23:48 And get a total on that and then find the percentage like you did on your goddamn deal before. Or what, no, that would be completely incorrect. We'd add these up, and then we divide it is what we do. Division. Division is the key, Brian. All right, the seven quarters minus the first quarter minus the overrun. Yes. Added up and divided by seven as 759,000 viewers.
Starting point is 05:24:18 You did that already? I was doing it while you were filibustering for a while there, buddy. Oh, God, damn. I was trying to figure out of doing that loud. I'm, you know, hey, I thought I was doing great. Can't do it for yourself. What is that? You can't do it to yourself. I've been doing it to myself for years. So what was that then? What was that number of viewers? 759,000 viewers.
Starting point is 05:24:44 759,000. So that's the real number there instead of 782. Yeah, it's like the ticket count at Wembley. This is the turnstile count. This is the turnstile viewers. It's how many people actually came through the door. Like some other people were caught in there from the previous. a show. They hadn't exited yet. We can't count them. They had come to Wembley to see the
Starting point is 05:25:09 Rolling Stones or whatever, and they just got lost in the bathroom and never found their way out yet. The three biggest stars in A.A.W. History are CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, and Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory. Hey, how is that, by the way? I'm just thinking, would that be another way they could measure Wembley? did we just stumble onto that? Instead of next year, instead of doing the turnstall count on how many people come in, they fucking measure how many people leave. That's funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 05:25:42 And they could claim that as a record. More people left this wrestling show than have ever left another wrestling show ever. You know, technically you could say that about his Wembley show probably. More people paid to leave. More people paid and left here than any other show ever. Not only did more people pay to see it, but more people left it than any other wrestling show ever. They're not doing enough to maximize the news they're making and the records they're setting.
Starting point is 05:26:14 They could have a whole new way of looking at this thing. So they've set a record. I don't have the number in front of me, but for anyone saying, well, it's a tough time a year to draw a number, I think they did like 930-something thousand last year for their similar themed show this time of year this week last year? That was have a holly jolly blade job last year. They're special. Right after winter is blowing.
Starting point is 05:26:40 But for all the fans that are really into Japanese wrestling who wanted this here in the States, it's killing their numbers. Wouldn't it to be fair? It's not necessarily an indictment of the entire tournament system. It's just an indictment of the way Tony's. just an indictment of the way Tony decided to do it. I mean, at somebody at some point with talent that is over and with issues and rivalries between them that have been maybe carrying on for a while, and then they're all, all 10, 12,
Starting point is 05:27:13 however many are put in this fucking situation where they're going to wrestle a number of different rivals that they've had over the last 18 to 24 months and one guy decides, well, I'll tell you what, if I get mathematics, eliminated, I know I'm going to fuck so-and-so up and match four just so he can't go on. I don't care what happens. And you really put a lot of time and effort and attention into your 10 top guys competing in such a way that you don't have to completely blow somebody out of the goddamn water and beat them like a fucking rented mule every night and throw a couple of fucking assholes
Starting point is 05:27:53 like I just described in there, and make it baby face versus heel matches. By the luck of the draw in the first round, and except for one of them in the fucking other time and godda-da, then you've got something. But this, no. He had 20-minute bangers with guys who lose every week isn't going to do it,
Starting point is 05:28:17 or with guys who would just appeal to what would classically be called newsletter readers. not to say they're not talented in their own way but how they're being presented what's being presented this tournament's a bomb and then around it you have the devil running around turning off the lights
Starting point is 05:28:34 to a point where when they have technical problems you don't know if it's real or the devil and the only authority figures to stop it are Tony and his pirate friend yeah or Tony is pirate friend and Chavani to read the statements like the fucking press officer from Iraq but he had a clothespin on his
Starting point is 05:28:52 nose when he was doing it. He almost literally reached up and grabbed his nose into the fake disgust that he has, right? For, oh, my God. They're chasing away their audience. For anyone who says, oh, well, people watch in different ways, really? Are they getting a big boost in their YouTube numbers? And by the way, where's the fucking follow-up for Christian Cage and Adam Copeland? The biggest two stars you could argue on this show for at least the last couple months, at least how they've been presented, nothing. Well, that was Tony's statement. You've read it from Christian Cage because they didn't want come to work on a holiday week.
Starting point is 05:29:29 What the fuck? They're old and they deserve their rest. Identify with that. Yeah. Is the audience going to be there when they come back? If things are falling apart, you've got to ask people to maybe help out a little bit more. But I guess you also have to say to yourself, things are falling apart. You have to be able to recognize that.
Starting point is 05:29:50 Not things are great. Best shows we've ever done. Everything's great. Who's, who's bad faith arguing about AEW? AEW themselves or people like us? There are no other people like us. And I want to apologize to Jason Ocarado
Starting point is 05:30:05 for any banging I'm doing as I talk about. I'm so fired up about these fucking... See, I get this. I get all the time again. What are you banging on? What are you touching? What are you clumping? What are you clumping?
Starting point is 05:30:17 What are you spitting about? What are you doing? When I get vehement and start rattling things and whatever, and now you're the one that's doing the goddamn speechifying on a desk. But it's ridiculous. It's amazing there are still people who won't come out and just say, Tony's not good at this. Tony needs help.
Starting point is 05:30:38 The people Tony has surrounded himself with are not the help. And Tony needs to stop listening to a lot of the people he's been listening to, whether they work there or not. Because look at what's going on. Do you think it's because he's not, listening to anybody or because he's listening to everybody at the same time. At least when you had the jelly, Nutellas and all these people running around this show. You knew not to listen to them. It wasn't boring. It was never boring. It was never just like, ugh, I got to watch this.
Starting point is 05:31:06 It didn't feel as dark. Half the matches on this show. I mean, it sounds like a silly thing. The ring's dark. The buildings are dark. This was the best lit building they've had in a while because they got a crowd there. The wrestlers were all wearing dark trunks. I said it before. It feels like NXT. Remember when it was NXT versus them? I always said, it felt too dark. I mean, that was a really small room
Starting point is 05:31:27 and they kept the dark. Well, then they fixed that. They had the unicorn throw up on NXT. Who says they don't listen? But you got your way and they went too far. Yeah, so AEW says, quiet, dark product now. I'm telling you, they've lost,
Starting point is 05:31:40 they've completely lost the plot and they barely had a hold of it from the beginning. And Cody held on to half of it. So, I don't even know what to say anymore. But people are going to pretend that, The solution is Tony needs to do this. Tony needs to get the fuck out of the way or just say this is my hobby. Don't trade it seriously.
Starting point is 05:31:57 But if Tony gets out of the way, the problem is who he's going to hand off to because he's Bingo. He's picked winners so far in almost every aspect of who he surrounds himself with or listens to or does business with to begin with or whatever. So, you know, remember we always said, can't get worse? Could it get worse? Yes. The bucks are not there right now.
Starting point is 05:32:26 The bucks can return. The dark order can be put all over this show. The Hardy Party, whatever the fuck that is, could show up and do whatever they do on this show. There are multiple people that drag this show down that they can insert at any time. But who can they insert in the show that brings the show up? MJF, although that's starting to fake
Starting point is 05:32:46 is how he's been used. Swerve. let's see how he's used who else Moxley's not drawing anyone anymore Moxley was always one of their TV draws yeah but how how often can you see that
Starting point is 05:33:02 that same that over and over it's done like where are the hot angles where are the hot angles that get anyone interested in anyone beyond like oh I like the way they work
Starting point is 05:33:16 like there's never any like fucking, oh, it's horrible. The show is horrible. A good blood feud. Well, no, don't say that. Don't say that with Moxley. He'll take that to heart. Well, you know what I mean. In the old manner of speaking, the blood feud, where I hate him deep down in my blood type of thing.
Starting point is 05:33:35 Where you could have matches, that would make it so that it's so completely illogical for you to stop in the middle or at the end of the match and slow things down to trade things back and forth. You should hate the person you're wrestling and never want to give them that opportunity for any reason. to prove anything to anyone. Who, in all honesty, was MJF the last and maybe one of the only heels they've had were the people genuinely popped and got excited when the baby face made his comeback
Starting point is 05:34:05 and was kicking a shit out of him? Rather than, oh, we're cheering these moves now. No, get him, get him, kick his ass, that type of thing. Well, the answer is yes, but the other problem is who else has been a great heel like that? Even when Jericho was a heel, he was never a heel. No, because he had the wonderful music. And the people could sing and dance and gesticulate about. But that's what I'm saying is that the whole,
Starting point is 05:34:33 the whole logic universe of pro wrestling is built on no matter how you get there, no matter who it is, no matter what they do, no matter how long it takes, weeks, months, years, one day, whatever the fuck it is, the ultimate thing about pro wrestling is the bad guy finally gets his ass kicked. And the people jump up and down and cheer when it happens and they've paid to see it.
Starting point is 05:35:04 Everything else is negotiable, right? You can think of five million different things that have been done in wrestling, but what is the classic, wrestling moment that everybody would see in their mind or remember and or the payoff, the blow off,
Starting point is 05:35:21 the goddamn big house, the end of the blood feud, whatever the case, the heel gets his ass kicked. That's what the goal of wrestling has been no matter when and where it was presented. It's just how you get there. They can't get there.
Starting point is 05:35:43 They cannot get there. because there's nobody to get there on. Their heels are more popular than their baby faces. And so nobody is going to cheer any of those heels getting their ass kick. I know I'm starting to regret a few things. Well, on that note, Jim, I'm trying to pull up the fucking dynamite numbers. Hold on. A.W. Dynamite that we just reviewed.
Starting point is 05:36:06 AEW Dynamite without a fucking in there for YouTube. But AEW Dynamite, ladies and gentlemen, from Wednesday, December 27, 2023 on TBS, on average, watched by 843,000 viewers. Wait a bit, isn't that what they did two weeks ago? This week versus the trailing four weeks. The trailing four-week average was 827,000. Last week was 782.
Starting point is 05:36:32 Well, I know, but then the week before that was 823 or seven. It's like the house in Baton Rouge, because of Jimmy Killshaw, the local promoter. So 10-6. $10,600. There'd be a thousand people there, 106. It'd be 3,000 people at 106. Well, let's see what you think of these numbers.
Starting point is 05:36:49 Again, this was the go-home show for the pay-per-view. Jim 8-8-8-15... I don't know why I said Jim there. 8-15 p.m., these were compiled by WrestleManiaomics. Quarter one, John Moxley versus Swerb Strickland versus Jay White with picture-in-picture. 983,000 viewers. Jesus, so Sheldon, again, hands it off. Sheldon with the tag.
Starting point is 05:37:13 You got a million people there. What are you going to do with them? Well, what we're going to do is go to quarter two, 815, 830 p.m. The continuation. Because that thing was still going on that match. Yeah, throughout the entire quarter two, 815, 830 with picture and picture,
Starting point is 05:37:29 869,000 viewers. Ouch. So, 114,000 people. So that's where the the real number starts, right? basically. That's what it seems like. Quarter three, 830 to 8.45 p.m., Danielson and Eddie Kingston's video, an ad break, swerve and Prince Nana backstage promo,
Starting point is 05:37:53 the Mariah May ramp promo, and then the live angle with Reho, and Tony Storm, plus the backstage confrontation between Action Andsredi and Top Flight, and Tremperetta, Orange Cassidy, and Rocky Romero. Yeah, I skipped that. I skipped that on purpose. The other guy on the show wearing an eye patch. And then an ad break, 839,000 viewers. Oh, so another 30,000.
Starting point is 05:38:22 So now we're 144,000 down. It's only been 45 minutes. They started with Danielson that quarter. They ended with Rocky Romero, two guys with an eye patch in the same segment, or the same quarter. What is the matter with Rocky Romero's eye? I think he just is a pirate supporter, an enthusiast.
Starting point is 05:38:42 A pirate enthusiast? We're going to sail off to quarter four. Is that anything like a turd burglar? Maybe so, 8.45 to 9 p.m., the endless Don Callis, Sammy Guevara, Callas Family Live promo, and then the angle of Chris Jericho, Ricky Starks, Big Bill and Sting, followed by Roderick Strong and the kingdom's backstage angle. 867,000 viewers. So they managed to muster back up 28,000 of them.
Starting point is 05:39:18 And now this has been fairly steady. I've taken out the first quarter because that was artificial. 869, 839, 839, 867. They can't keep this up all day. Well, we have the big 9 o'clock hour at 9 to 9.15 p.m. quarter 5. Brian Danielson versus Eddie Kingston with picture and picture 792,000 viewers. Ouch, okay, Danielson and Kingston
Starting point is 05:39:46 because it's a tournament match, they're both technically, nominally baby faces, and why do people want to sit there and watch them kick shit out of each other for 15 minutes for no reason? And 8,000, 75,000 people agreed. Well, the match continues into quarter six, 915 and 930 p.m. With picture and picture ads
Starting point is 05:40:09 and then the post match with John Moxley, 832,000 viewers, also the high point in the key demo, 433,000, between 18 and 49. And what in the world do we attribute to 40,000 of them coming back? Was it the remarkable backhand slap finish? I think the callous angle
Starting point is 05:40:35 drove them away before the 9 o'clock hour and then 9 o'clock hour comes on and it's Danielson versus Kingston having this match. I think that match. Some of them came back for it. Some of them came back for that. That's what I think. Well, you may be right. I forgot about the fallous effect.
Starting point is 05:40:53 We will continue things here with quarter 7, 930, and 9.45 p.m. John Moxley and Eddie Kingston's live promo and ad break. The Christian Cage, Adam Copeland, backstage angle, and the beginning of Statlander versus Sky Blue with picture and picture, 794,000 viewers. And they're back under eight, but again,
Starting point is 05:41:19 869, 839, 839, 867, 792, 794, this is remarkable. They have kept much of their audience for the first time in what months. they're only down Again, you've got to take the first quarter out of it because they're down almost 200,000 from the first quarter, but they're not even down 80,000 from the second quarter.
Starting point is 05:41:46 Well, let's go to the final quarter with an overrun, 945 to 10 p.m. Quarter 8. Statlander v. Sky Blue continued. The post-match with Julia Hart, Willow Nightingale, and Abadon, the Ruby Soho, Soraya, I forgot about Abadon.
Starting point is 05:42:05 The Ruby Soho Saria Anna-J backstage angle and an ad break, 781,000 viewers. Well, that's a gift that that didn't lose any more than it did. 13,000, that's the low point of the show, but it was the on-screen low point of the show. And finally, 10 to 10.06 p.m., the overrun, the Samoa Joe backstage angle, where him and MJF. take on the devil's masked men, and then his promo, 807,000 viewers. So, 26,000
Starting point is 05:42:43 people showed up thinking they were going to watch gardening or whatever comes on after that, and like, what the fuck is this? I don't think it's gardening on TBS after dynamite. Okay, we've got to get to the root of the matter here. From now on,
Starting point is 05:42:59 we've got to start disincluding the overrun and the artificially inflated first quarter and doing averages based on what they really fucking get for a viewership for this program. Quarters 2 through 8 and the average would probably be
Starting point is 05:43:17 significantly lower. Well, they're about to be helped. I just saw the end of that Vanderpump Rules is coming back, but it's going to be on Tuesdays. Well, how's that going to help them? It's not going to be on Wednesdays, against them. Oh, I thought you meant for a lead-in. No, I'm a minute.
Starting point is 05:43:33 to destroy them. Why can't they figure it out where they can have this van der pump fellow lead right into AEW and then they'd get the Vanderpumpers and the big bangers. God damn it sounds like a fucking Roman orgy. You know, all kidding aside, if you know that Vanderpump is the one show destroying you and the ratings, why not throw a bunch of money at one of those idiots and get them on your show and try to get some publicity out of it and ruin their show in the process? Either that or just fucking Brian Vanderpump. Say, hey, move over to fucking Thursday. What's it going to hurt you? Well, there it is. Jim Coronet's look at the A.A.W. Ratingings, volume two, a popular weekly segment that in one form or another, one way or another, will be changing soon with the introduction of a simulcast, I guess I should say, a streaming simulcast of A.A.W. Dynamite. Jim, final thoughts on these ratings.
Starting point is 05:44:28 Simulcast, I don't know that people are really clamoring for it to air one place, and now it's going to air. air more than one. But we will, and we still got another omnibus coming up here in the near future because we got to cover 2024, where it all starts falling apart, right before they get more money than anybody's ever seen to produce a television program that fewer and fewer people are ever seeing. So this is going to really be, I think, an interesting feature going forward. That's right, and we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 05:45:00 We'll see what Tony and Jericho and. Moxley and the whole gang of Brainiacs bring us in the years to come. But until then, for Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last. Tally-ho!

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