Jim Cornette Experience - Jim Cornette Experience Special - Funniest Moments Omnibus, Volume 4
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Hello again, friends.
And you are our friends, the great Brian last here.
You there, we are back on the bus for a very popular installment.
Well, we don't know.
I guess it will be, but a popular series, the latest installment, once again.
What the hell are you talking about at this point?
Well, that's the wrong sound.
There we go.
But here we are.
Stick your organ in if talking doesn't work.
Ladies and gentlemen, the latest omnibus, Jim Corny.
That's Funniest Moments, Volume 4.
I'm the great Brian last.
Here is the leader of the cult of Coronet, Mr. Jim Cornett.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've done a few before of these omnibai of our funniest moments.
Sometimes they were planned to be funny, and sometimes it just turns out that way.
And so they've been so popular, we've done another one.
And this one goes back over a number of years.
You may find some of your classic favorites in here.
Or if you're a newer listener, you might not have heard something.
well, you'll hear it here and wouldn't that just be swell?
But we're going to just tickle the cockles of your cockles
with some of the funniest repartee and wittiest banter
that has ever been cast on a pod before.
That's right, and we think you'll enjoy this.
We're looking forward to listening back to this,
and in fact, Jim has already promised at the end of this show
after you listen to all of this, he'll be back here with me
with the funniest joke you ever heard.
But let's get to the omnibus now.
Jim Cornett's funniest moment.
Volume 4.
On the straight shooting series, Volume 2 DVD, you told Bobby the Brain Heenan about a raccoon
invading your house.
Can you please share the raccoon story with the listeners?
Well, okay.
We had just moved into Castle Cornette after the renovations.
This was some 12 years ago or so.
And Stacey was in California visiting her family at the time.
I was here by myself.
And I'm in the bedroom.
I'm watching TV.
and I hear this right somewhere and I'm thinking what it wasn't like somebody was knocking on the door
it was just a continuous and I look out the window at the back door and there's nobody there
and I turn out on turn on all the outside lights and I look around the house and everything's locked up
it's two o'clock in the morning or whatever time it is on Sunday and so I've lay back down
watching TV and a minute later I walk around again I'm saying what the fuck I cannot find anything
out of place or anything wrong. So while later I get up to walk from the bedroom through my hallway
into the bathroom and when you look to the right in the hallway, you look down into the kitchen.
And as I walk through the hallway and I happen to glance to the right, I see the biggest fucking
raccoon that I've ever seen in my life in my kitchen. Walking across the floor looks up at me,
doesn't register anything, kind of turns left and goes into my living room.
What the fuck?
Well, now I'm, I'm naked, first of all.
I have no shoes.
The shoes are past the raccoon.
They're at the front door because we got a no shoes policy in the castle.
And I'm naked because I'm home alone.
I'm in bed.
It's two o'clock in the morning.
So I'm like, well, I'm not going to fight a fucking potentially rabid raccoon naked.
So, but at the same time, this is, this is a sizable.
Are you people up north?
Are you familiar with raccoons?
Yeah, we have them here too.
Okay, well, this is a sizable raccoon.
It's the size of a medium-sized dog.
It looked like to me.
I don't know.
It was a 25-30 pounder.
It had to be.
Oh, wow.
I mean, it just, it was enormous.
And I'm thinking, what the, so I go back in the bedroom and I close the door.
And I'm thinking now, I'm not going to take, I do have a weapon, even though I am very pro-gun
control.
I have a small, non-automatic handgun that I've had for 30 years that I do use in my home for protection.
I've actually never used it because I've never needed it, but it's there.
And I'm not against those small, you know, one bullet at a time, six-bullet type of firearms.
But I am against in my brand new recently renovated home chasing after a goddamn raccoon in my living room and trying to pick it off, right?
I've never fired the fucking gun to begin.
I fired it once 30 years ago when I got it, make sure it worked and that's it.
so I'm thinking the gun is out.
I don't know that I want to take a bat after the raccoon in my brand new renovated house,
especially since in the living room, that's where the majority of the antiques in the house are.
What do I do?
I know.
I'll call 911.
So I call 911.
And they say, sir, what's your emergency?
I said, I'm not really sure.
I said, I have a potentially rabid and very large raccoon loose in my home.
That was the response I got.
They said, did you say a raccoon?
I said, yes, a raccoon, it's loose, it's in my home.
It might be rabid.
I don't know.
I'm not acquainted with.
We've never met me in this coon.
I said, is there a procedure to follow here?
And they say, well, it's now, it's three o'clock in a morning on Sunday.
So, you know, animal control is closed, but we can send the cops out.
And I'm like, well, I live in the town I live in, they're doing nothing at this time of
night anyway.
There's no crime here.
So I'll go ahead and send them.
well the raccoon call went out and apparently they really weren't doing anything because i got
how guess how many police cars i got for a call of a rabid raccoon in my home i don't know three
four and now and and they said just stay there so now i open the bedroom door and i can hear
his claws on my towel floor he's back in the kitchen right so finally the cops get here they
knock on the front door now i'm dressed but i still don't have any shoes but i got to
go to the front door. So I do pick up, I can't remember what it was I had in the bedroom. It was some
type of blunt instrument. And I creep down the stairs right in front of the kitchen is the front door.
And I opened the front door and the cops come in. I said, all right, guys. I said, there's a raccoon in
this fucking house somewhere. I saw it. Okay. So they start at the bottom and they systematically,
they went down in the bar area. Everything's fine. They go through the living room and the kitchen and the TV
room. There's no need to go out into the sunroom and the hot tub room area because that door was
closed. There's no way he could have got there. Come upstairs, check the bedrooms, the bathroom. And
they're starting to look at me like I'm on some kind of drugs, right? Because there's no raccoon or
sign of a raccoon. There's no door open. There's no window open in this fucking house, right?
And I said, the only place to go now is up, up into the vault and in my office area. So,
as soon as we start going up the next flight of stairs into the vault,
then I look to the right and now I see it.
There's a hatched door about three feet square that leads to the attic space
that is over the top of my bedrooms.
That door is standing wide open.
What I was hearing,
what was this fucking giant raccoon drop kicking that door until finally he caused it to open.
Wow.
Now, the vault is about 50 feet long, and it's dark.
I turn the lights on, and when we're going down and the cops have the flashlights,
and as we go, come through the door into the office area, and they shine the flashlight over to the left,
this fucking raccoon is sitting on an antique end table, right next to my couch, right next to the front windows.
When the flashlight hits him, he jumps up and climbs up my curtains and then leaps off over the couch
and starts running around the room.
And one of the cops who had said,
well, I'm a raccoon hunter from way back.
And, you know, he wasn't really impressed
by the fact that I told him
this was the biggest raccoon
in all of recorded history.
Guess what that cop said.
What did he say?
That's the biggest raccoon I've ever seen.
So while they're chasing this fucking thing
around the room and I'm trying to find the lightswitch,
I run over and I fling the sliding glass door
to my deck,
the second story or third story deck actually i should say out i fling the sliding glass door open
and if they can chase him out on the deck he'll be trapped out there right because there's a railing
around and it's quite a ways off the well i didn't realize that raccoons were so fucking acrobatic
they chased him out he ran right out on the deck right up on the railing and jumped off
into the goddamn inky blackness of night like he was committing suicide but we never found a body
so i assume that these raccoons are just athletic as all fuck
And now where they scared him, he has left a trail of raccoon shit.
He shit on my antique end table.
He shit on some of the boxes that I hadn't unpacked yet.
He shit on my carpet.
He just dribbled a line of shit all the way out the door.
So at least I was vindicated in that there was a raccoon in my house.
We don't know if he was rabid because we weren't able to contain him.
He went off into the night to terrorize other innocent people.
And those four cop cars sat down to bottom of the house.
my driveway for the better part of a half an hour, I'm sure radioing all over the, you know,
Kentucky and southern Indiana area about the dangerous raccoon call that they had just had just had.
And so the bottom line is I got a deadbolt.
And he had pried loose the screen on my attic exhaust fan that was supposed to keep thing.
And somehow had climbed in that way, but I put a dead bolt on my attic hatch door.
So if anybody breaks into my fucking attic, they,
cannot get into the house anymore. There's a dead bolt on it. And that's the raccoon story.
Did the police know you already? Yeah, they knew the fuck I was. I'm just wondering when they
get a call at three in the morning that Jim Cornett's having an issue at the house with a raccoon,
did they all just go, I got to see this. Let's all go. I will. I mean, they didn't come out and
admit that to me, but I think that's pretty much what happened because and there was two cops in
each car. So you had eight cars. I had eight cops in my house at three o'clock in the morning
trying to fucking chase the wild raccoon out because they, you know, I mean, there's always
you know, either that or I'm on the news, you know, a couple of years ago fighting the,
you know, housing development across the street or the subdivision, whatever they call them,
or, you know, they get called to the scene where I've got the cab driver that ran in Stacy's
car, I'm nose and nose with him, got him bent back over his fucking trunk or whatever.
There's, they're familiar.
They're familiar.
Of course, Jim, rock auto.com has a lot of hot deals and has a lot of hot deals and there's a lot of hot
news and a hot events happening in and around the world of professional wrestling.
Fire.
Who?
Who?
Fire.
I love that.
And you remember that album cover, too, with the hot girl with the...
That was the best thing about them.
Around her?
The hose around the hoe?
The best thing about the Ohio players with those album covers.
Yes.
And, well, you remember honey, too, wasn't it with sweet, sticky thing?
She was pouring honey all over her mammary.
glands. But anyway, there's been hot news, huh? Sizzling hot.
All right, let me. Scorching. I know it's, I know it's your show, but God damn it. I saw this
right before I left town and I couldn't, I decided to just wait. I didn't retweet it. I didn't
comment on it because I decided to just wait until I could break this happenstance down piece
by piece. Apparently, one of our old friends, we haven't talked about him a lot because
nobody's seen him in months. Old Jelly Nutella is waddled back from obscurity. Apparently,
sometime back, I forget, was it six months, eight months, nine months, however long it's been.
We've been free of his presence on AEW television because apparently Tony Con got buyer's
remorse fairly quickly.
He thought he was getting the
indie rific standout that he was
apparently sold and he was sold a bill of goods
and what he got was a parking lot of tenants.
So since Tony doesn't really have the balls to do anything about his
talent mistakes, he just lets their contracts run out and doesn't book
them and sometimes doesn't call him or text them either.
And apparently that's when jelly's been floating around
wherever jelly goes, but he's back.
and he wanted apparently to make some headlines.
And he's on some clown show.
I've seen the clip.
Everybody tweeted it and everybody's been emailing.
He's on some garbage show somewhere in a brick holding cell
in front of what looked like about 40-something people.
And he's wrestling some clown.
And folks, if, Brian, you're going to have to tell the people that this is not a bit
because they're going to think, oh, now, why is he,
winding this guy up like that.
This didn't happen.
So please, after I describe it,
confirm for the people
that I have described this correctly.
Jelly figures, the big finish of this match,
is going to be
a flaming super kick.
So what he does
is he sits down in the ring
and pours
lighter fluid or gasoline
or some flammable or inflammable,
whichever one that applies, substance,
to his own foot, his own boot,
and proceeds to set himself on fucking fire.
And superkicks this idiot,
who actually agreed to stand there and take that,
and then realizes,
he's got no plan to put himself out.
I'm not talking about a bad plan.
I'm talking about no plan.
His foot is continuing to burn and be on fire.
And he sits down.
Well, he doesn't sit down.
It wasn't that fucking casual and lackadaisical.
He drops down on his ass and he's patting the foot.
And the foot is catching the mat on fire.
And flames are now coming from the fucking mat.
and the referee
grabs a bottle of literally
a 16 ounce plastic bottle
of drinking water
and is poured
and then people start throwing more bottles of water
into the ring
and people start coming
and uncorking them and trying to
and jelly is screaming
I guess whatever
you scream when you're on fucking fire
and nobody had a fire extinguisher
that's why I'm talking
there was not a bad plan, there was no plan.
He forgot that after he hit the super kick,
his foot would still be on fucking fire.
And he turned into Richard Pryor,
only it was his foot instead of his fucking face.
What was the finish of that match?
Brian, did anybody ever win?
The clip cut off.
Did I describe that correctly?
You did, and I'm not sure if that was the finish.
I guess the other opponent won via fire.
forfeit? I'm not exactly sure.
One via third degree?
Yeah, the winner via third degree burns.
Tits McGee over here, ladies and gentlemen.
Can we please get a rag and a dust pan so we can
sop up what's left of jelly?
I missed the days when before you had endless tables and chairs under the ring,
there was a fire extinguisher.
You know, actually, that's the thing.
In a lot of places, we always carried one in Smoky Mountain.
I think we had one in OVW.
But yes, in a lot of places you would have a fire extinguisher
under or around the ring are accessible
when people didn't set themselves on fucking fire
and forget that they would have to find a way to put themselves out.
That was just in case it accidentally happened.
So I guess he achieved, because we've established before,
that jelly is the kind of guy
he enjoys the attention
of people laughing at him
and calling him a clueless puts
and a fat dumpy piece of shit
and a fucking
you know brown and serve roll
covered in pubic hair
and all the other things
he wants to be noted for doing stupid things
because then people are noting him
I'm sure his family is proud
but so he
he wormed his way back
into the news by setting himself on fucking fire in front of 42 people for no money in a goddamn
cinder block building we just wanted to keep everybody up on on where the old AEW favorites are
where are they now you know clearly this is another one of those booking mistakes from tony con he should
have found the way to retain this guy well if he would have set him on fire that would have been the first
match of jellies that I would have liked on his television.
Maybe they could have used them in the buildup to Cody's match and had Brandy set him on fire
and then had Brandy set the table and Cody on fire during the match to build to it.
But this, you know, Cody set himself on fire by accident.
Oh, okay, fine then.
What if Jericho, instead of lighting the air above Eddie Kingston's head on fire lit jelly
to tell his foot on fire?
It would have been a great way to build to.
But see, that was a proper.
fireball, if he'd had good aim, it would have been safe and effective and good for you and
looked good and all that stuff. He just, you know, but this was real fire with real flammable
liquid that not only, I don't know whether he'll be wearing that boot again or not, old
jelly, and it's a special problem for him since both of his feet are like fucking different sizes.
But it also set the mat on fire. So the mat, the guys lost that mat. The, the guys lost that mat.
and unless he just wants to put it out there with burn marks on it,
maybe he could charge the marks $2 a piece to take pictures of it.
With, you know, here's where Jelly set himself on fire.
I'm standing on it.
Oh, come on, you can take advantage of this.
He could be the club foot Nutella.
Hey, that would be, if Dustin, when he was gold dust,
was seriously thinking about getting breast implants to shock everybody,
then I'm sure for his art, for his career,
because he loves pro wrestling so much.
Jelly will be willing to get his foot amputated.
And then he could come, and he could, that, if he had done this 35 years ago,
he could have been the one-legged wrestler that could play Long John Silver that Jim Hurd was looking for it, TBS.
Yeah, foot von Eric.
And here's Kerry's second cousin, stumpy von Eric.
You thought Chris looked like shit.
Here's the other cousin.
Boy.
Waldo's other son.
Waldo Sunny had with a motel made in Buffalo
A few days ago
On my program
The highest rated program
The Jim Cornett Experience
When you said something
And I didn't fully grasp
What you said
And so I did some research
I checked it out
And now
Not only do I know
But can't get out of my fucking head
hocus, pocus by focus.
I don't remember saying anything about that song at all.
What?
You're the one who, you're the only human being I've talked to in the last three days.
Why did I go to YouTube and look up hocus,
Pocus by Focus on the Midnight Special so I could see the clip that you were talking about
when we were discussing Don Kirster's rock concert of Midnight Special or however it came up.
I didn't mention it.
I did not mention hocus pocus by focus once.
What?
Not only did I not mention it on the show, I don't think I've ever mentioned it ever, ever.
Like in the history of me, I've never ever...
No, no, no, no, you can't do this.
Who else have I spoken to that would have mentioned that song?
I mentioned, we talked about Mark Boland.
We talked about T-Rex.
I mentioned the old gray whistle test.
We talked about rock concert versus a business special.
No, no, no, because that clip was last week.
that was last week on a something made you on the experience talk about this goddamn song and i had
heard the song the name hocus pocus by focus i had seen that written down but i didn't know
what song sounded like and i'd heard that song a hundred thousand times but i never knew
what it was called and once i watched this video where you told me i did not i absolutely
Who else have I spoken to that would alerted me to an old clip from the Midnight Special of this band
that I've never even thought of in a fucking 100,000 years playing this and then they had a
like a seven-minute song they had to play in four minutes and they did it double time and the guy
almost went out of his fucking mind and they gave him a standing ovation on the Midnight Special.
I told you I like punk rock and somehow that led you down this road.
I don't understand.
You somehow mentioned this song.
No.
I've double dog there somebody.
Jay Shark Nato, Kippelman.
What's he doing these days?
Is he got a life?
Somebody listening to a last show.
What are you saying over there?
Well, who's as he got then?
Somebody listened to the last show.
And I'm telling you.
you, you are the one who told me about this song.
And you deny that.
Not only do I deny it, I don't even, I know the name of the song and the name of the
band.
I can't hear the song in my own head as we're talking about.
I don't know what the song sounds like.
I'm sure I heard it.
I haven't talked to anybody else.
Norman Dooley.
No, he wouldn't have mentioned hocus pocus by focus.
And I spoke to him briefly, but the subject didn't come up.
And actually, that was before we did the last recording that we did.
Was it listener feedback to the talk about the Midnight Special?
I couldn't care about listener feedback.
It was you telling me that this song was so fucking great in some fashion.
If someone could find any evidence in any episode ever of any podcast I've ever been on.
It's just a few days ago.
Now you've got me questioning myself.
I haven't talked to anybody else.
I haven't had time.
What else have you heard me say on these shows?
I'll tell you this.
See, I thought we were going to have a good discussion there.
And you just...
I just wish I knew about it.
What day is this?
All right, let me think.
I didn't talk to anybody yesterday.
I didn't talk to anybody before yesterday.
I was too busy.
Do you talk music with the Monroe's?
The Monroe brothers were here over the weekend, but I didn't talk music with them.
I think somebody's going to find evidence that you've just, you retired that day.
and you just don't remember what you've been talking about.
Well, everybody should look up hocus, pocus by focus on the midnight special on YouTube.
It's the goddamnest thing you've ever seen in your life.
You ever seen Redbone on Midnight Special when they do love?
Go and get your love, motherfucker.
But it has the whole war dance at the beginning of it?
Yes, because Redbone was the, it was the only band comprised entirely of Native Americans to have a top 40 hit.
That's right.
Well, I was about to either agree or disagree.
What the fuck?
I agree.
Already you're acting like I've got, you're looking at me across the inner waves here,
like I've got smoking turds hanging out of my mouth because I've accused you.
How else?
Who else would have talked to me about this song but you?
That's the other big mystery.
Where did you hear this and who were you talking to?
We had a discussion.
I have never, ever, ever mentioned that band or that song in a discussion.
I don't even know what you.
the song is. I know the name of the song, but I don't know the song in my head. I can't hear it.
You know what song's been stuck in my head? Because I caught an Ed Sullivan replay, like two weeks ago.
Grazing in the grass by the Friends of Distinction. Yes, they were very friendly friends.
But then, you know, who did an amazing version of that in the, I would say, well, mid-70s, probably.
The grazing and the grass by the Friends of Distinction was, what, late 60s?
Yeah, like 68, 68, somewhere around the mid-70s, Herb Albert and Hugh Massacala
did an incredible horn-centric version of, grazing and the grassin, thick ass, baby, can you dig it?
I can dig it, dig it, dig it, she can dig it, dig it, dig it, we can dig it, dig it, dig it.
See, I doesn't say anything like, Hocus, Pocus by Focus.
It is the greatest scat song that ever made the chart.
The woman, one of the women in the band, one of the, they're not a band, one of the singers
was Jessica Cleave.
She was later with George Clinton.
I don't know if it was in Parliament or Funkadelic or P-Funk all combined, but she went
from grazing in the grass to a lot of grass, I'm assuming, with George Clinton.
So you don't, you see, it could have been Parliament, could have been Funkadelic, could have
been P-Funk, could it, it was somewhere around the mothership.
That's right.
There you go.
Something else I saw on YouTube.
since you won't own up to the...
If someone finds me saying,
if someone, the first person to get in touch
and say they have it with an actual example,
you win a prize of some sort.
I'm not going to be giving away any prizes.
Who are you, Brian, last thousand now?
You'll get a prize of some sort.
I don't know what it'll be.
It could be a book.
It could be...
Just any old thing you want to throw out.
I got an extra Eisenhower book recently.
I can give that...
An extra one.
An extra one.
That'd be one more.
than I have, besides the interstate highway, what did he do as a president that we should be
remembering? He gave maybe the most, I wouldn't say consequential, but maybe the greatest
leaving office speech that in history now, you look back and like, wow, he really saw where
things were going, where he warned everyone about the military industrial complex.
You know, you mentioned the plumber.
Is he still hurt now or hurt again or been locked up, taken away, tied up, and held for ransom?
What's his status?
Did you see the...
I haven't read it yet, but a lot of people were posting quotes from it in the Culta Cornette Facebook group and on Twitter.
There's an article...
Here, I have it here.
From your good friends, Jim, at The Messenger...
Don't shoot the Messenger!
AEW's John Moxley calls for major industry change after suffering concussion in the ring.
Exclusive.
Moxley was injured during a match on AEW Dynamite last month, which sent him to, quote,
fucking out of space for 10 minutes.
And now he's proposing an idea how to better protect wrestlers.
And this is by Daniel Traynor.
You know what?
I got the first idea.
If you are a wrestler that's been knocked into fucking outer space,
don't go 10 more minutes.
Here's the question before we read any of this.
Are Moxley's groundbreaking suggestions going to be the things that anyone would say
who wasn't already doing this?
Is he just like, now that he got knocked in the head, he's like,
wow, I just realized what everyone else has been saying
about how stupid everything we do is.
Well, of course, that's what it is.
But also, if he wanted to make industry-wide change,
he was probably in the place that he may have been able to do it.
the one that leads the industry.
But he couldn't hack it there, and he didn't like it.
So he went to play with his friends, and now he ain't going to change shit because
none of these guys are going to do anything that they don't want to do.
If I could make this time machine work backwards, I wish I could be in the room for
Moxley pitching to Heyman and Brock Lesnar what he wanted to do.
I would pay anything to be in the room to hear that conversation.
But here's the article, once again, by Daniel Traynor, the messenger.
I don't know if he's the messenger or just writes for the messenger.
John Moxley was standing in front of more than 10,000 wrestling fans
inside New York's Arthur Ash Stadium,
but he had absolutely no idea where he was.
During Moxley's AEW International Championship Defense against Ray Phoenix
at AEW Dynamite Grand Slam on September 20th,
Moxley suffered a mild concussion at the start of their match.
Moxley exclusively told the messenger
the concussion happened, quote, 30 seconds in, end quote,
which ultimately sent him to, quote,
fucking out of space for like 10 minutes.
I just kept getting progressively more lost.
I couldn't figure out where the fuck I was.
Then, I had this moment of clarity.
Oh, I'm fucked up.
I gotta get the fuck out of here.
So an in-ring audible was called to end-the-matcher.
and give the title to
small package you fucking moron
not pile driver package the guy
just small package the fucking you're supposed to win you're hurt
here are your options small package the fucking guy
one two three and the doctor comes in
or the other guy picks you up over his fucking shoulder
and drops you on your head again twice
which one should you pick
it is funny I mean you said just roll him up
He gave him a pile driver that gave him a second pilot driver.
Sunset, small package, sunset flip, good God.
I've seen a motherfucker win a match that had a broken leg when he was supposed to win.
I don't, all right.
Hey, Doc, if I ever get a concussion, what should I definitely not do if I'm not able to communicate or no one picks up on it?
Just definitely don't do a pile driver, let alone two, back to back.
so an in-ring audible was called to end the match early
and give the title to Phoenix
Moxley returned to action on AEW collision last week
but even being out of action a month
was difficult for him
I'm a very physical person
I like wrestling for the sake of wrestling
I like to do shit with my body
so sitting still and being injured
is always very challenging
now fully in the clear
I can't I can't I can't believe they put up with him up there as long as they did
now if he was talking like that around normal adult people
in the business I can't I don't know how the fuck somebody didn't fucking go into business for
themselves just throw him out in the parking lot go ahead now fully in the clear
moxley said the industry needs to adopt better safeguards to protect wrestlers in the
ring in pro wrestling
It's a really touchy subject.
Moxley said, but acknowledged bluntly,
somebody's got to fucking bring it up.
Pro wrestling is such a strange thing.
In football, if a guy goes down and doesn't go back to the huddle,
you know he's fucked up.
In pro wrestling, a lot of times it's hard to tell what's real and what's fake.
Not when you're in the ring.
Moving forward, Moxley has a very,
vision for a new system that he thinks might work.
Maybe a really experienced wrestler and a really experienced doctor who are trained to see
signs of that shit or watching it on a separate feed.
Even if they have a doctor close to ringside.
What if the guy fucking spills outside the ring?
He doesn't see that.
As Moxley articulates, both these...
He does?
Is that what you call that?
Articulating?
As Moxley articulates, these two hypothetical individuals would have no prior knowledge of what they were about to see.
The doctor and the wrestler are completely untethered to the creative portion of it.
Oh, good Lord.
They have no idea nor any interest in what the story is.
Who wins? Who loses?
Who cares?
How long it's supposed to go?
What is, what point is he making?
so because they don't know what the guy's finish is,
that means that they'll be able to better identify it
when some motherfucker bashes another fucker's brains in?
What, it, that anybody hasn't seen
almost every fucking time these people are injured,
that they're injured, Moxley,
when he got fucking landed on by Felix,
the first time with the flip dive,
got up and his legs were rubber, and he went back down.
And everybody could tell there.
The referees are useless and feckless and dickless.
And the fucking Felix comes from Luchador City,
where they probably land on each other 15 times a night
and concuss each other.
Nobody even knows.
Didn't it happen to Danielson?
Nobody knew what the fuck was going on there.
Didn't that happen to Danielson once in WWA?
He was wrestling a match on Raw,
and they thought he was concussed, and I think he was.
And, like, Triple H actually came out to stop the match.
Yes, I believe he did.
And he was angry about it.
He wanted to keep wrestling.
and they're like, no, we're going to stop this.
There's none of that in AEW.
But here's the thing.
Again, nobody knew what the viewers, the fans, the people watching television, the people in the arena,
nobody knew what the finish was.
They figured Moxley was going to keep the belt because why would you switch it?
But nobody knew how long it was supposed to go and nobody knew what the finish was.
And nobody knew what...
Not even me.
Exactly.
as it come to find out, but
they didn't, when I say they didn't know what the finish was,
they didn't know, okay, three drop kicks, two,
hip tosses, a body slam, whatever the fuck.
So, if Moxley got his bell rung and couldn't hardly get up,
then at the start, then if he was feeling well enough to continue,
he should have known at that point,
let's not do this 15-minute match.
This fucking guy just landed on my head and fucked me up.
and we're going to do whatever the fuck in a small package.
And then in the locker room I'll tell him, well, you landed on my fucking head,
and I didn't know what I was doing, so we just got out of it.
Or he should have told the referee, because the referee's wired up to the goddamn back.
He can hear Tony in the back at the gorilla position.
And if Tony said, scratch your head if Moxley's okay, and the referee didn't scratch his head,
or reverse, scratch your head if Moxley's hurt and he scratches his head,
then Tony should have said, then tell him to fucking take it home.
There's all kinds of things that could have gone on before it got to the point,
including, as we mentioned when we talked about the match that Moxley had just hit Felix
with two or three big moves and covered him and got two counts,
and then he just decides, wait a minute, I can't go on any longer.
beat me? What the...
No! Has anybody got any sense
and experience at the same time in a situation? The answer we found out was
no, none whatsoever.
I had the Blackpool Combat Club are the biggest, baddest team. Their fucking leader
fled. And then you can't hit any of them in the face or they're out of action
from months at a time.
Let me finish off this article here.
All right, go, yeah, please finish it off.
Once again from the messenger, watch out Justin Barrasso. It looks like someone's moving in
on your territory.
Why does Moxley think a wrestler
needs to be watching
alongside the doctor, you might ask?
He's got that answer too.
If a guy fucking spins around
or something and the doctor
goes, is he okay?
The wrestler could tell him, that's just
a pro wrestling thing. Don't worry.
Oh my God.
Moxley's proposed system would make things
as cut and dry as possible
no matter what it means for the
overall competition.
As soon as the doctor sees a sign of somebody being concussed, he just fucking hits
the red button.
Oh, jeez.
Oh, no, I did that wrong.
He just hits the fucking red button.
Boom.
This is over.
No matter how much time is left.
No matter if it's on live TV, it's just over.
Why don't they give him a gong?
And you figure it out from there.
And you figure it out from there.
You know what, Moxley's like the...
Fucking Chick Donovan called a fucking spot one time with a guy.
As he shot the guy off, he said, one tackle, drop down, you finish it.
And the guy's running the rope's going, what?
What?
That's the same, yeah, and you figure it out from there.
Sure, somebody's going to need to, because you can't, you fucking pee brain moron.
Oh my God, wait, we just have received word from TOTocon.
The red button has been pushed.
Matches over.
The match is over, red button.
The winner.
A cone comes down over the rig
and then fog is shot into it as a decontamination.
This guy's a simpleton.
He's a simpleton and he's got brain damage.
You can tell.
His brain has been damaged.
For the things he likes, the things he does,
the things he says, whatever.
But no, you don't need a doctor and a wrestler
and a red button and a separate fucking feed.
And they know nothing about the booking.
They can't know anything.
about what's going to happen.
And, well, then in that case,
how the fuck do, if they know what the finish is,
when a guy gets dropped on his head and is laying there selling,
they'll, well, he's supposed to.
Fucking morons for that matter.
But besides that, I've been in the business for fucking 40 years.
And every time that I can ever remember,
being on a show or being doing commentary or being in a locker room,
when somebody ever got fucking a concussion,
they pretty much knew about it
because the guy that got dropped on his head was,
hey, grab a hold, I'm fucking hurt.
One time Bobby Fulton,
I remember this,
the Fantastics against Ron Simmons and Butch Reed.
Bobby got dropped or in some way landed on his head
and finished the match
but then came in the locker room and didn't remember it.
And N was freaking out because he couldn't remember finishing the match.
but everybody
it around the ring has a part to play in it without putting extra people out there
the referee both guys working with each other
you can see on the monitor if somebody if something really looked bad
that's why the X sign from the referees came into being
and then everybody got smart to it
and then they started working it to work the people but
the referee would tell the
the backstage gorilla position crew
yes he's really fucked up
and they would send instructions to the referee
of how to immediately get out of it
it's not all what we'll think about it and get back to you
it I have a
well I have an update here an article from Sports Illustrated
just came up sI.com by Justin Barrasso
I bleed in the sunlight
John Moxley proposes new
system to help with blood and wrestling.
It's come to my attention.
That bleeding is wrong.
It certainly has come to his attention.
I've got a concussion, so now I have ideas how to fix the whole business.
In other words, no.
Just have some people with some experience and some common sense and they're looking for things.
And to be honest, again, I am going to say that I did, five, five, six years since I
I did 300 one-hour OVW television programs
that we aired here in Louisville over a six-year period
and that was a wrestling school
with the most inexperienced top-to-bottom crew
that you would pretty much find doing anything
on any television level anywhere.
And I know we had concussions and training.
I don't remember a concussion
ever happening on the television program
and I don't remember ever having to stop one of the matches
because anybody was hurt for real.
Imagine that.
And if you go back to Smoggy Mountain Wrestling
where I did 200 one hour television episodes of that,
can you remember, you've seen most of those,
was anybody ever hurt for real to where we had to stop the match
or switch up what the fuck was going on?
Just the fact that we're having to think this hard
indicates it was rare.
Canemora kind of got hurt, but he asked.
for it. Well, yeah. That was, and he did it to himself. So I'm talking about, you know, an accidental
goddamn injury that was unforeseen and, you know, Jericho breaking his arm, but no one was there
and that was before. He was practicing in the ring in an empty building and doing a flip that he didn't
need to do that night. Again, a lot of this comes down to style. And I'm not saying everyone has to
wrestle like Big John Stud. I don't want that. I like Brett Hart.
Brett Hart was rarely ever injured for the majority of his career,
and he wrestled good matches, physical matches.
Well, look what's happening now.
It's wrestling smart.
It's wrestling, it's not wrestling hard or soft, it's wrestling smart.
Jerry Lawler had some of the most exciting matches over a 15-year period
that was going on in wrestling.
And his had never had a major knee surgery,
never had a, he had various injuries from taking some of those bumps,
but never anything spinal, neck,
broke his leg playing fucking football.
He didn't even hurt in wrestling.
Heard in football.
Never wore knee pads until he was past 40.
And took some, and was run over by cars.
For those of you who were young, quite literally,
go Google, Jerry Lawler, hit by a car,
and you can see Eddie Gilbert run over him
on live television in 1990.
Yes.
And as we've told, we'll finish the story,
and we'll move on.
So many people called the Memphis Pleasant,
police to say they'd just seen a vehicular homicide on live television that the cops came to
Channel 5 and made Lawler go back out on the TV before the end of the show to say that he was
alive and killed the Angle.
But anyway, again, we will talk about the Tony Khan Media Scrum audio both before and after the
pay-per-view later on in the show. But Jim, let's have a quick little aside before we get
to another one of the big topics here. News breaking as we are recording. What website is this?
Inside the Ropes reporting
Cota Ibusy rushed
to hospital following double ankle
injury
Do I don't know me what?
Double ankle injury
I've never heard of that before
a double angle
I thought what they did two angles
with even one day
Cody a minute
wait a minute now come on now
there's something this is linked
because something happened
with with Kenny's
bowels and intestines
and now
you're telling me that fucking Ibushi has bad ankles.
Do you think that they got mad at each other and Abushi broke both of his feet off
and Kenny's ass?
No, I don't think it's that because Kota Abushi was wrestling apparently.
He reportedly injured both of his ankles while headlining a pro wrestling Noah event.
How do you hurt both ankles?
Did he jump off the fucking roof or something?
Japanese sports outlets sports hochi reports that early in his main event match with
Marifugi at pro wrestling Noah's the ye...
Excuse me, the new year 2020.
The yeet?
The yeat?
The new year 2024.
Did somebody yeat, Abushi?
Ibushi suffered an injury to both his ankles.
He continued to wrestle, however, eventually beating Marifugi.
What was he doing?
Wait, but in over 33 minutes.
Hopping on his fucking head or fucking walking on his hands?
Have you broken both your fucking ankles?
How can you continue the match?
For 33 minutes.
Oh, good Lord, he was crawling on his belly like a reptile.
Ibushi is reported to have walked to the backstage area under his own power
but is said to have been in so much severe pain that he could not provide any backstage comments
shortly after he called himself an ambulance and was taken to the hospital in Tokyo
he called himself and they wouldn't even get on the phone for him he's super oh god I'm gonna go to the
hospital here here's your fucking phone they are waiting god damn sloppy shop is that over
there they are awaiting diagnosis from the hospital Tony Khan recently announced that
they signed Kota Ibushi who looked horrible in every appearance he's had in AEW in the last year.
And depending on how this story goes, may not be wrestling anytime soon.
What a disaster.
Everyone they sign.
Everyone they sign goes down.
But hold on now.
Hold on now.
Okay, he hurt himself somehow.
It's not mentioned in the article.
He hurt both ankles at the same time, apparently.
One would think,
that would be a real pisser, as Captain Lou would say,
to hurt your first ankle and then your second ankle
in the same match at different times,
but nevertheless, he guts it out,
kudos to him, and finishes the match
so I don't think they can be broken.
But then he's in such severe pain
that he wants to go to the hospital
of why did he walk to the back under his own power?
Wouldn't you, after you'd finish the match,
when he's, okay, I can sell now.
it's good for the business like they used to say when you'd get busted open hard way it's good for the it's good for the business carry me out of here haul me out of this motherfucker
but he walks to the back and he sits down he says you know i can't do that interview instead hand me my phone
i'm calling my own ambulance what the fuck is going on with these people jim i've sent you an email with
a link that has a few different videos in it
to what apparently is Cote Abusci
possibly getting hurt in a match
and a couple of the other moments from the match
or after the match where he couldn't even stand up.
Oh, well, I've got, now that you've rambled on,
I've gotten the link, I'm clicking on
said link.
Cota Abushi, tag into hospital.
Well, it's a lot.
Oh, wow, oh, here we go.
It's still popping up. See, I'm a slow loader
because I got the spectrum.
You know, the spectrum cable.
and the internet, and it's slower than molasses in January,
as Mama Cornett, you say, okay, is the first one.
Is the one that I should watch, right?
The first one, it appears to be maybe where he got hurt.
Well, I'm going to click on that son of a bitch right now
and see what he's going to do that he could potentially be damaged,
a moonsault off the second turnbuckle onto the guy on the floor,
and he lands right on his feet and grabs his,
as I'm turning myself,
he grabs his right ankle.
And then the clip cuts out.
So yeah, that definitely looked like you could damage yourself on that.
Again, he just runs down the apron and jumps to the,
almost gets to the second turn buckle,
then makes it,
and then does the moonsault,
lands on the floor on his feet and grabs his right ankle.
Well, that was the first video.
The second one appears to show the finish.
Well, now he should be limping considerably at this point.
But he's just collapsed on this guy, like he's laid down on a bed and pinned the guy?
I've never seen anything like that.
I've dropped an elbow on my fucking mattress harder, Nat laying down it after a hard day.
Whatever he'd done to the guy, he just more or less missionary position, body pressed him and fucking...
Well, the third video is the post-match, and this will tie everything together.
Okay, and apparently it's the guy that tweeted this,
is I cannot believe my eyes, a disaster.
Okay, and he's trying to walk, and he's limping, and he falls on his ass,
and the other guy whose hand he was raising,
just fucking lets go of his hand and turns off and walks away from him,
and kneels down selling, ignoring the fact that this motherfucker actually
He just probably collapsed on purpose.
Or not on purpose, but collapsed for real.
Well, Kota Abushi begins 2024.
The way he worked the entirety of 2023, this does not look good.
And we'll see what happens.
That's all we could report.
Before he hurt himself, he was doing the deal where he runs down and jumps to the second
turnbuckle, and he didn't make that the first try.
And then got up on it.
Well, that's the thing.
He didn't even make, like you said, first time he jumped to the second turn buckle.
he missed it. I've never seen him do that before.
And then he does the deal and the guy, you know,
whoever this other fella is,
he tried to catch him,
Marofugi. He tried to catch him, but
Abushi went kind of over his shoulder and bam and landed on his feet,
which apparently he doesn't need to be doing that.
Well, there you go.
So Tony can,
should Tony's father at this point,
suggest that he open an offshoot of AEW as like a hospital, medical center, physical rehab,
surgery, bone transplant, fucking, you know, organ black market operation.
It seems like there'd be more money in treating the injured AEW wrestlers than there is
in paying them while they're healthy to sell tickets.
even if you were a fan of Kota Abushis,
based on what you've seen from him
in the last year, year and a half, whatever it is,
you can't tell me there's anything there
that would make you want to sign him to a contract
and give him more money.
Despite whatever you think of his work from before
since he's come back
and before this ankle injury apparently,
he was awful.
Even his own fan said that
and Tony gave him a contract.
And, you know, and that's...
There are people out there, the Cornad haters, who will say, wow,
Cornad would put the belts on the Rock and Roll Express or some fucking blah, blah, blah.
If the Midnight Express, we'd know.
No, if the Midnight Express present day right here, right now, we're all here.
I would not book them to wrestle on a national television program.
Because at some point, age catches up with everybody.
if Cota Ibusci was a
a legend
in a territory
or even in this country,
Steve Austin can walk in a fucking ring and take a shit
and people would still pay to see it
but he doesn't need the money to have to do that
but he could
and they could make money off of him doing it
if he would agree to it
and many legends have
but
but no
he's not a person that
is going to draw you money
based on what he can do now
versus what he could do in the past
and what's the cutoff then?
Is it 40 years older?
Is it 60 years older, whatever?
The territory guys learn to work around their limitations
because they were over his personalities.
Ibushi has none.
Most of these guys have none.
And that's why when they're 32
and they're falling on their ass
because they can't fucking walk
because they've blown their ankles in the same match, whatever.
They can't work around that
because that's the only thing they do.
Personalityes can work around anything.
God damn.
Think of the guys that were...
Lawler until last year,
it had a match every year since 1970.
Because he knows what he can do and what he can't do,
and he knows what sell people.
And all the old territory guys
depended on that because sometimes they own the territory,
sometimes they own part of it,
or they just wanted to stay in the business.
You know, Gene Kineski was fucking 60
and still, you know, doing what he wanted to do
because he was part of owner
and he knew how to fucking stretch.
Whatever.
These guys, they can't do that because
they've set the standard where that's one of those guys
that does all that insane shit.
And then when it catches up to them
and they can't do it anymore.
You can't pay them like,
it's like you're paying a fucking singer
has just had his goddamn voice box removed.
What the fuck are you there for then?
Nobody's going to pay just a look at you.
So that's, Tony is finding out the problem
with this, putting this much reliance
on this kind of chaotic wrestling
and signing every darling,
even if it's a darling that took him 10 or 15 years to fucking be able to sign.
The action figures wear out.
There are a couple things here that a lot of listeners have been sending in,
both having to deal with Rick Flair.
I don't know how much of this you've seen.
I got up this morning, and I've been out twice before we started recording,
but in the middle of that, I saw that he's had an issue with pizza people.
That's pretty much what I know so far.
Well, Jim, yesterday as we are recording, May 5th, 2024, 443 p.m., Rick Flair tweeted out,
every word beginning with a capitalization.
Is that something you have to do on purpose to make it do that, or is that something that
pops up accidentally?
Because it doesn't make sense that you would do that on purpose.
That is absolutely not the default.
You have to choose that.
See, I don't know how to text, but I wouldn't text like that.
that. Why is that done? Does that have some meaning with the young folks?
I'm not sure why it's done. And, uh, well, let's, maybe this will explain some of it.
Let's go to this tweet here from Rick Flair at Rick Flair, N-A-T-R boy on Twitter.
I spent $1,500 at Pisano's. Wow.
What was it? Pizza with goddamn filet mignon topping?
How much pizza?
I eat a lot of pizza.
How do you spend $1,500 at the pizza place?
That's a shitload of pizza.
I don't know if me, Joey Chestnut, and fucking...
You both could...
All three of us could eat that much pizza.
I spent $1,500 at Paizano's to be disrespected more than I ever have in my entire life.
Jesus Christ.
after taking 20 pictures with customers and staff,
I was asked to leave because of an issue I had.
What, wait, what?
Hold on, wait a minute.
20 people came up and say, please take your picture with us, please.
And then now please get the fuck out of here.
What are you?
I just find this so funny.
I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager
taking too long in the bathroom.
Well, wait, taking too long in the bathroom.
I was laughing and taking too long with his order.
But taking too long in the...
What, it's a one-huler over there at Paisano's?
He couldn't get in the kitchen manager?
What was he fucking shooting up in the goddamn stall?
And he couldn't get in any bathroom?
But hold on is another way to read that.
I was asked to leave because of an issue I had
with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom.
Maybe he left out a word or two, its Twitter, was Rick taking too long in the bathroom?
And the kitchen manager's like, yo, come on already.
Out of there.
It seems like that the kitchen manager would have access to his own bathroom.
He wouldn't have to go out there and clog it up where the customers couldn't get in.
So, I don't know if you're correct there.
But well, then what?
What's the kitchen manager coming to get the guy out of the bathroom for?
Come out of the closet.
Is that the kitchen manager's job?
Wouldn't that be the matre d?
Or do they have a matriety at Paizano?
So then Rick Flair was upset
that the kitchen manager
was taking too long in the bathroom.
It sounds like it to me, but
either way.
It sounds...
Let me finish this.
I would highly recommend that
anyone who wants to enjoy
a relaxing time in Gainesville
and a nice restaurant
to never visit this place.
I would like to recommend
that anyone who wants to take a relaxing dump
in the Gainesville area, they'll rush you
after you've been in there two minutes.
They'll be shoving toilet paper under the fucking stall door.
So get the fuck out of here.
Well, Jim, we have an article.
We have a brickflake, you can't take him anywhere.
Even if he's spending all this money in a pizza place.
By the way, that's just stupid money in a pizza place.
I've always heard brickflare's loose with his money.
Now I get it.
He's just going crazy and Chuck E.
What is the goddamn most expensive pizza that you can buy?
Is there a $50 fucking pizza?
And that would be 10, 30 of them.
What's your most expensive pizza?
It's like $12.
I'll take $10,000 of them right now.
Do you deliver?
Do they have the capacity to make $1,500 worth of pizza in such a short period of time?
But we have an article here, Jim, from the Gainesville son.
This is a serious matter.
From the Gainesville son by Alan Festo.
Alan Festo.
Pisano's owner says, it is a quote, evidence clear after Rick Flair asked to leave Gainesville restaurant.
WWE legend and hall of famous Rick Flair created quite a stir on social media over the weekend.
Okay, now I'd also wait about how much stir do you have to make to get in the newspaper over a
a fucking disagreement at a pizza place.
The sad thing is, I'm pretty sure with all of these stories, it always starts off great.
Hey, Rick Flares here, he's awesome. He's taking pictures with everyone. I love this guy.
Hey, who's knocking on the bathroom door?
Get out of the bathroom! Woo! Out of the bathroom!
All of a sudden he's there trying to get him out of the bathroom?
So what did they say in the newspaper?
He bashed at Gainesville restaurant while in town to attend a University of Florida
graduation ceremony.
Flair, 75,
and family members were dining
at the Paisano's stone-fired
pizza restaurant,
1250 West University Avenue.
Flair must have a big family,
but I didn't know he was a Mormon.
When the professional wrestler apparently was asked to leave.
He advised his more than two million followers
to avoid the restaurant on their next visit
the Gainesville.
They have the tweet here.
Paisano's co-owner,
Robert's, when reached Monday by the sun, said, the evidence was clear, but declined to offer
an explanation as to why Flair was asked to leave the restaurant.
The evidence of what was clear to who?
He then sent a prepared statement via text message, and here's the statement.
We have reviewed video of the incident that took place recently at our restaurant.
It is clear, our team worked in a professional manner to ensure the same.
safety of guests and staff.
What the fuck?
We have thanked here.
What?
We have thanked our team for their professionalism.
We are proud of how they responded to the situation using and displaying our team values.
What was the situation?
What are your values as applies to this situation?
Robert says they have no intention on releasing the
video.
I don't even need to see the video.
I just like some motherfucker to tell me what to fuck happen.
Who was locked in the bathroom?
Who wouldn't come out of the closet?
How is it $1,500 worth of pizzas can be consumed by one family?
And how did taking pictures and signing autographs go to,
You must leave the premises and never return?
There's all kinds of story here.
It's being left out.
Yeah, there's something going on, and I'm not exactly.
sure what. Again, $1,500 at a pizza place.
I've never goddamn made the news for being asked to leave a restaurant or establishment such as that.
And one would think that I'm one of the more disagreeable people if you listen to the rumors
and the casual conversation. But I don't make the news for these things. You don't make the news
for these things. And by the way, no one wants to kick out the guy spending all the money.
That's no restaurant's business model is like, hey, we're having a problem, like we're too busy.
We got to get rid of the guy spending the money over there.
Leave the guy that's tips of servers on their tip and get rid of that guy that's throwing hundreds around.
How can that go so far south so quickly, I wonder?
And his family's there?
And we need, you know what?
bar rescue, John Taffer,
needs to get in on this.
He needs to follow Flair around to different
bars and call it Flares Rescue
from bars.
And we'll get to, it's a
one-hour television program.
Wouldn't it be funny if it was Austin Idol's pizza place?
Fantastic.
Hey, I think you could live there for a year and a half
and not spend $1,500.
Well, there's the Rick Flair story.
There's a rumor about another
part of this story, but it's
unconfirmed as of this moment.
Are we allowed to spread
clearly labeled as such
unconfirmed rumors?
Well, Jim, there was another part of this story
that's kind of unconfirmed, but
if in any way true paints a very interesting
picture of these proceedings.
There's a tweet that was sent out. The name
seems odd.
Freddy Schnertz
Is the at
Freddy Schnertz
Fredrish von Schnertz
Is his name on here?
Again, I don't know
People do interesting things
Well, how in the world do you expect a guy named
Schnurz to be a liar?
I'm the manager of Paizano's sister location off Archer
Mr. Flair was being drunk and disorderly
He wooed directly into a blind grandmother's
face.
Let me try that again.
Wait.
He wooed directly into a blind grandmother's face.
After being confronted, he picked up furniture and swung it menacingly.
What?
We love Rick, but he was boogered.
He wooed into a blind grandmother's face.
Maybe she wanted a picture.
But how would that do her any good if she got a picture?
How would she have known to ask?
Maybe she said, I've never been able to see you.
Can I at least feel your breath?
Can you, well, no wonder she's probably snookered now,
but can you imagine if you were some blind person and suddenly,
without warning, Rick Flair wooed an inch from your face?
Well, again, this may or may not have happened, but something happened to Pisano's.
That was so bad they won't release the video, but they're proud of their team for standing up for themselves.
How can you dispute the word of Frederick von Schnicklgruber?
Somebody's got to pry him out of the bathroom sooner or later.
Well, maybe it was the kitchen manager.
Where was the other?
Where was the house manager?
It was the kitchen manager.
Yeah, where's the matriety?
prestigious place like Paisanos.
Where is the, the, all the other people, besides the kitchen manager,
that ought to be dragging somebody out of the bathroom.
See, we don't even know.
See, that's the thing.
Because it's so unwieldily worded.
That's the thing.
It's either Flair locked himself in the bathroom and they couldn't get him out and it
became an issue.
Or the manager was in the bathroom too long and Flair was either waiting to use the
bathroom or was so offended by this while sitting down that he got up and said,
hey, I spent $1,500 here.
for you to use the shitter.
Get out of there.
I believe that more than a day,
because Flair's not going to lock himself in the bathroom
because he's,
that would be away from the bar.
He's not doing fucking heroin in there.
He's fucking drinking.
So why would he lock himself away from the bar?
But why would the kitchen manager go in the only receptacle?
It's available to the fucking,
and then why is the manager of the place
in the official statement proud of his team
and the way they handled,
something that could have been dangerous to the safety of themselves.
Flair knocked over monitors screamed you're a clown.
This place is a joke and I quit.
And the people were scared for their lives.
That's the only thing I can figure.
You know what causes this whole thing, don't you, Brian?
Vodka and cranberry sauce.
Well, no.
Well, that could have a contributory.
Cranberry juice and cranberry sauce.
he's a sick man
it's a super duper jello shot folks
especially around Thanksgiving you're going to
love the
vodka and cranberry sauce
you know what you had to go with pizanos
and bring that back into my fucking head
pizanos
his fucking families in there
Rick Flares causing an incident
and then you know like he didn't go easy
That's the problem.
It wasn't like, sir, you have to leave.
Okay, fine, I'll just go tweet something.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
But one would have thought somebody in his family could have maybe de-escalated it before it got to that point.
Yeah.
I mean, they were all in town.
They were all in town and there was a lot of pizza.
Just a lot of pizza.
Maybe it was a fight over the leftovers.
Like, who's taking what?
You could have six pies and you can have ten.
And that's why I was starting to think
Have you ever seen a $50 pizza?
No, look, there are like gourmet restaurants
In Manhattan where this pizza's that are hundreds of dollars
But like that's like a single pie
And again, it's a gourmet restaurant
You'd really have to
It's not easy to just to get in there
At Paizana, I mean again, if the average pie
Let's just say it's New York prices and-
Well, hold on, we've got to Google Machine, don't we?
Yeah
Well, hold on you.
We should still be recording.
We should. Well, hold, you know what?
Turn the tape on and we'll put an extra.
Oh, you know what? I never stopped the tape, so we still have all this.
Okay.
Look you here.
We'll edit it somehow.
Okay.
Brian, I know the show is over with, but how much these goddamn pizzas go at PISA?
Can you, I'm typing this in.
It's PIE.
I got it.
Well, I got locations and hours, uh, menu, uh, order.
I get order from Paisano's.
Yeah, University Avenue.
I guess this would be the one.
You could build your own.
own pizza, cheese pizza, classic cheese, or create your own pizza, starting at 849.
The cauliflower crust pizza is 1449.
Well, now, look, they're in a nice little strip mall.
I see the picture of the place.
They have, hold on, they have entrees, appetizers, pizzas, calzone, specialty pasta, subs,
the average, pitch menu.
The average price appears to be 1899 or less.
Well, now also, wait a minute
Instead of just pizza now, they have
They have rigatoni a la vodka
Maybe that was a problem
Too much vodka and the rigatoni
They do have catering packages
Maybe Flair went crazy and was like
Allopackage 5, 6, 7 and 8
Woo!
They're expensive $200 for one,
$155 for another
Well, how much is the $200 fucking
buy you
because they
had to
got eight of
those
$200
like $200
for instance
would be
package seven
full black
and chicken
pasta
or how
with house
or
Caesar salad
and 40
rolls
40 rolls
also
for $200
you can get
a full
chicken
carbonera
a full
house or
Caesar salad
and 40
rolls
well
wait if
What is a full chicken?
It means like you get the whole chicken, but you get 40 rolls to eat with one fucking chicken?
What is this?
Goddain.
It says that for everything.
Like package three, which is 209.
This one's expensive.
Full lasagna, house or cheese, house or Caesar salad, 40 rolls.
The only one that's different, actually, is for 155, the full chicken parmesan served over spaghetti, full house or Caesar salad, 20 rolls.
Oh, only 20 rolls. That's why it's less.
Apparently, they ought to call it carbzanoes.
All right.
That's why Flaylocked himself in the bathroom.
He had to...
Jesus.
His colon wasn't ready for all this.
I'll show you how much pizza I could eat.
Woo!
You're rolling my colon.
You have any Sicilian!
All right, apparently they're open from 11 to 10, folks.
11 a.m. to 10 p.m. down there in Gainesville, Florida.
Florida, Pisano's.
The bathroom's closed, though.
It's a crime scene now.
It's taped off.
Wait, wait a minute, hold on here.
It's like,
the tapes has sanitized for your protection.
From the Gainesville son,
everything you need to know about the Gainesville restaurant
that kicked out Rick Flair.
Oh, what's this?
Um, yeah, well, he just tells the story.
Apparently,
the owner and his wife opened a small walk-up pizza spot in 2000.
In 2009, they joined forces with other people to open Paisanos.
They added more people to the team, and now they've got four locations.
One-ups, one-ups, one's up in Okala.
They got the specialty stone-fired pizzas, calzone, sandwiches, wings, more.
Oh, so this is actually just an article about the restaurant.
that booted Rick Flair out.
You think this is bad?
The one in Ocala
has Marty Funk Band for Life.
Oh, come on now.
You mean to tell me
she wouldn't come out of the bathroom either?
And now there's an article here.
Where are these articles popping up from?
This is Gainesville.com.
Who is Rick Flair,
the person who got booted out of Pisano's?
And it again
replicates all the stuff that
we, uh,
that we've written or that we've already talked about happening.
Somebody on Twitter said,
imagine you finally get a minute to use the bathroom at work
and Rick Flair starts cutting a promo outside the stall,
yelling about it.
Too long.
You finally get in the bathroom.
All of a sudden it's like someone's banging on the door.
Who is it?
It's the nature boy.
Another one said,
imagine having irritable bowel syndrome and Rick Flair yelling at you.
See, again, the way it's written, it could be the other way.
The guy was mad at Rick for spending too much time in the bathroom.
See, I don't, I don't know.
Apparently, now that the picture was posted of Flair earlier that day with his wife, Wendy Kidder.
Wendy Kidder.
I've not heard that last name for her.
I thought her name was Wendy Barlow.
What happened was Margo Kidder died, so she took her last name.
Son of a gun.
That must have been it.
It's hers now.
And they are dressed in blue and announced they were heading to Gainesville.
Styling and profiling in Gator Blue, as only we can look, and then we'll be at Paisano's to take a big dump.
And then I'll put on the color, whoever else will talk to me.
Woo!
Oh, come on now.
He's feeling mighty blue after Paisano's.
Wait, was, did he-
rewarded his kindness with scorn?
Was Paisano's before or after the game?
That was fairly after the game.
Or the graduation?
whatever it was.
Game graduation.
Gene.
It's a graduation.
Drive by.
Well, you wouldn't go and stuff yourself before an event like that.
You'd go there and stuff yourself after an event.
So this was the graduation party.
Rick Flair that kicked out of his own graduation party for whoever it was.
We're still developing items still coming in.
Rick Flair recently expressed his frustration that he was not asking.
to be a part of the Who Killed WCW docu series.
I don't know if anybody should ask to be a part of that.
Yeah, I help kill it.
No, yeah, still no plans to release this security video unless...
Why not?
Again, Tony Kahn thinks that it might draw some money.
Why not?
Because there's still a sponsor of the Rick Flair-W-E-W-Dronk, right?
Well, Rick-Fleer-W-Dengy sponsors AEW Dynamite.
Well, that's what I'm trying to say.
So basically they could
they could use this video
because they're connected.
They're their sponsor as part of this.
See, there's a way to own this and make it work.
Like, Rick Flair should start a new series
where he gets kicked out of different places every week.
It just goes to a place and every week it starts off really well.
Holy shit, it's Rick Flair.
How you doing, buddy?
Nice to see you, sir.
Hello, sir.
Does the whole nice Rick Flair act.
And then like a few years.
drinks in, a few pizzas in, he just all of a sudden starts losing it, and next thing you know,
he locks himself in the bathroom.
At that point then, you know, we download the Draft King's Fantasy Six app because at the start of the
program, it's not obvious why he's going to get kicked out.
But whoever is the first one to determine why by the end of the program, he will be kicked out,
and state that on draft kings wins huge cash prizes.
And the weird statement from like the place was like,
it is clear what has happened.
Nothing's clear.
What happened?
Well, I hit that Gainesville son, Pisano's owner says evidence clear.
After Rick Flair asked to leave,
we worked in a professional manner to ensure the safety of guests and staff.
Everybody was in danger.
It sounds like there was a shooter on site.
Well, he had a goddamn, apparently it was a hand grenade that was being used as a medallion around his neck, and he threatened to pull the pin.
I can't tell what it is.
He's helicoptering something around his head.
Oh, now, come on.
I don't know what it is.
You could put somebody's eye out with a thing like that with the sharp point.
All right.
Are we still in the show?
Well, we ended the show.
We ended the show, and then we got the idea that we should go look up and see how much they'd
charge for these fucking pizzas.
Well, it's pizza night in America now, ladies and gentlemen.
We'll wrap it up once.
What's your show?
I'll let you wrap it up once again.
Okay, bye.
Well, Jim, speaking of shave, I'm going to try to shave.
I guess not shave, Tom.
Just talk about some other things before we get to dynamite.
God damn.
You used to be such a learned, articulate individual.
The podcast industry has broken you.
This is the day that has broken me.
This recording today is broken me.
But the good thing is, I'm the one that had to crawl on my hands and knees under the desk
to unplug and re-plug the modem and the router or the motor and the routum or whichever the things are.
You didn't have to do that.
Well, Jim, however good or bad your day or my day or the listener's day may be,
there's a chance it may be better than the last few days for Rick Flair,
the nature boy famous for his feuds,
with Harley Race, the Von Erick's, Dusty Roads, and Pisano's.
A story emerged the other day, emerged smiling and laughing.
A story emerged the other day because Rick Flair tweeted about it.
Otherwise, no one would have known.
He divined himself.
Rick Flair announced that, I think he had never been as disrespected before
because he got into a fight with the manager about the bathroom.
and I think he thought it would go the other way
that people would be like, yeah, you can't treat Rick Flair like that.
Not that everyone's first reaction would be like, all right, what did Rick do?
And we made some guesses.
I mean, it was a story that he wooed in a blind grandmother's face.
Well, and that we haven't gotten confirmation of that.
And as well, I was disappointed because there's video now that's surface.
and from the manager's official statement,
I thought we were going to see some furniture,
some chairs being swung.
There was talk of chairs being wielded in a menacing fashion.
There was talk of threat.
There wasn't any, at least in what we saw,
there wasn't any chairs swinging.
There wasn't any face wound of blind people.
But there was a,
it wasn't even an animated tongue lashing
because I got to be honest, folks,
it appeared to the average lady person viewing it
that Rick was gassed, he was pickled,
he wasn't really yelling or screaming,
he was barely articulating,
but it wasn't security footage that we saw,
it was somebody on the other side of the bar
with a camera, just shooting it.
And Rick telling off the,
apparently the manager of the whole place,
from what I heard apparently now
we can narrow it down
that the kitchen manager is the one that was taking
too long in the bathroom
Right, but that is not the man
that he's yelling at here
This is... He's yelling at the whole manager
or the whole wing dingin' place there.
Right.
Or the whole pie slinging place.
Yeah, it's a pizza pie.
Well, the pizza places have wings
so they could be wing dingin and pie slinging.
But the point is,
poor Rick
tweeted as you said
he'd never been so disrespected
this place he took his whole family
he took pictures he signed
autographs he spent $1,500
and they kicked him out of the place
come to find out
they didn't kick him out they just cut him off
and the reason why he spent $1,500
was because he gave the waitress a thousand dollar
tip
for
apparently only to
show the manager of the place
well, fuck you, she's getting a thousand dollars
and I'm going to call you a dip shit.
And now because he brought attention
to the incident, he's put out an apology
that nobody would have known about this thing
that he wouldn't have had to apologize
if he had to mention it in the first place.
And it explains a little better.
I feel there was a logic lapse in that thing.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
And, you know, this definitely explains
a little bit of the economics behind the $1,500 spent
at a pizza place.
He still spent 500 apparently and gave out $1,000 originally.
And we'll play some audio.
But we also know they have a liquor license now.
There's no question about that.
So, yeah.
Well, that is another one of the big parts that comes out in the video.
The manager, Rick went right to in the tweet that everyone saw that he was kicked out,
they just cut him off.
They didn't kick him out.
They just said, we can't serve you anymore.
So that's a different story completely.
I think it almost appeared he was on propofall.
I think Michael Jackson's doctor would have cut him off.
Well, let's see how this comes out.
I'm not sure how it will work out on the show here because I'll be saying...
This is not professionally shot footage and the audio is somewhat sketched.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to tell you this now.
I'm going to fucking...
Everybody that's interested is going to find this on the internet.
And I don't know, is this a TikTok thing that you get closed captioning?
It's captioned at the bottom, or is that something that the person had to do on their own, or is that automatic?
I think it probably was automated if I had the guess.
Well, it sounds like it or it looked like it, because, like I said, Rick was not enunciating exactly clearly.
And at one point, he's telling his waiter, you and I were good.
and his waitress, you and I were good.
And he said, and then he points at the manager, and he says,
and along comes dipshit.
But the closed captioning said,
and along comes the Egyptian.
And then people were commenting that he was making racist remarks.
He's an anti-dipshittite.
Yeah, but it was like trying to close captioned Dusty's commentary
on the Saturday Night TBS show.
years ago.
And here's
dips shit over
and here's the
Egyptian over here
where the fuck
they couldn't
understand him?
You know,
with all the problems
in the Middle East
today,
I did not think
Rick Flair would
speak out about
the Egyptians
of all people.
And here come
the Egyptians
to fuck things up
totally.
Oh, God,
damn it.
Oh, God.
That was so fucking
funny.
Well, let's see
if we can play
any of this.
Again,
and you can see it. I watch it a few times because I watch it once reading the captions,
and then I actually listen to what was said.
Here's Rick Flair at Paizano's Gainesville, Florida.
Well, I've been there wrong.
It says spend money and put this place over and bring my family and friends here.
That is bad for you.
Why would it be bad for me?
Well, watch social media tomorrow.
I don't follow social media.
Well, you better.
I don't get stuck on my wife.
What's your name that job?
Nicholas what born?
Nicholas Dickhead.
Let me stop it for a second here.
Well, Nicholas Dickhead,
aka the Egyptian, is having a conversation with Rick Flair right now.
Rick Flair is dressed like some magical creature
that was drawn on the wall of the pyramids.
No, he's actually, he's in his bright blue paisley.
the gimmick that he's been wearing
he's at Pisano's he's standing out at Pisano's in Gainesville, Florida
a very staid Republican area of the country
but that that was
when he said watch watch the media tomorrow
he was meeting I'm going to tweet and bury you and he was expecting
that everybody was going to
Yeah see that's the thing Rick doesn't do his own tweets
and what was tweeted out also went out on Facebook
So went out a few different places.
Whoever manages his social media
got a phone call
or God forbid a text
from an angry Rick
saying, I've had it with Pisano's.
We got to blast them tomorrow.
Let them know who's the boss.
But wait a minute.
So you mean he's got somebody doing his tweets for him
and they're still capitalizing every word?
Yeah, that's some sort of bizarre strategy.
Yeah.
I thought it was just because you didn't know how to work the thing
well let's go back to Rick Flair trying to work the thing over at Paizano's
let's call me like that sir don't never talk
you don't have to call me that you don't have to do this to me
because you really may be in my family I'm not a meeting
I didn't do one thing wrong let me stop it there because there's another thing where
the translation's wrong he's saying you don't have to do this and you
humiliate me in front of my family.
And I guess that means
cutting him off? Because again, they didn't kick him out at this point.
They only cut him off.
Right?
Well, and yeah, it's
according to what the guy is telling him,
that's the story.
But, well, it's a little embarrassing
when they have to come and say, yeah,
Dad can't have any more
fucking cores or whatever the case.
Yeah, I'm here with my entire family.
You may notice none of them are here with me right now.
They're all in the parking lot.
waiting for this to end.
Let's go back.
I would think somebody in the family would have said maybe it's not worth the
consternation, Rick.
But go ahead.
Rick Flair at Paizano's.
Walk in the room bathroom.
And you're a kid I accosted.
Really?
What world do you live in?
No, the same world.
What did I cost them?
Did I touch him?
Cussing, you said Cust, you know, is that a cuss word against yours?
I didn't say one cuss word.
So now this goes into whatever the manager heard from the kitchen manager.
Yes.
About either Rick Flair touched him or cussed him.
I think Rick, when he said you cussed my kitchen, cussed my kissinger.
When you cussed Kissinger.
That's what Nixon frequently said.
Yes.
You cussed my kissenter.
And often Angie Dickinson as well.
But when you cussed my kitchen manager, Rick thought he said you accosted my kitchen.
He said, I didn't accost him.
They can't understand what each other are saying because of the potential chemical imbalances
that are going on in each brain here.
Let's go back to Rick Flares confrontation with the Egyptian, Gainesville, Florida,
Paizano's.
Let's go.
God.
No, ma'am, I'm going to give you a thousand dollar tip just to say, to him kiss my ass.
You want outside here.
You don't have to be this particular.
I don't know.
You're resurrected me.
How am I used to pick him?
Telling me to leave.
I'm not telling you to leave, but you're telling you that you're cut off.
Oh, I'm cut off and I'm drunk.
Really?
Yes, sir.
Well, let's stop it there, because there's really the bone of contention, I guess.
The crux of the matter.
Rick said, you told me to leave?
The guy said, we didn't tell you to leave.
We told you you're cut off.
Well, that may be the same thing is telling him you got to leave.
You think I'm here for the pizza?
Woo!
Yeah.
This pizza was a shits.
I just came for the fucking bourbon.
The gardenauts tastes like crap.
The kamikazis.
You're ma'am.
You have, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am,
please give yourself a $1,000 tip.
I'll let me do it.
$1,000 tip.
This guy and I are so cool.
She and I are cool, and long come to a tip ship.
I'm not going to be a gypship.
I got, I'll say it again, you're a gypshit.
You have to get out of here right now.
Why I'm leaving?
Trust me, I won't come back yet.
Come outside here and talk to me like a man.
Well, let's stop it there.
Now he's been kicked out.
Yeah, now he's, you've got to leave.
Well, I'm leaving.
You can't fire me.
I quit, but now he...
And along comes to your ship, shoot.
But now, unfortunately, he's said to the guy,
well, come outside and talk to me about this like a man or whatever.
And the guy's about to say, and you'll hear it.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm on the clock.
He's not going to go out.
fight Rick Flair at a parking lot, but
but then one of the other people
at the bar, this guy gives, I'll go outside
with you. What did you say to me?
This guy's been sitting there at the end of the bar, listen.
Again, there are other patrons there. It's not like Rick Flair's the only
person there, there are other people at the bar.
This guy's six feet away, listening
through this whole fucking exchange.
And as it's happening, him and one of the other patrons that are next to him,
I don't even know if they know each other, but they're looking at each other.
Everyone's like, what the hell's happening here?
It looks like an old candid camera where
Buster Keaton is doing a bit at the counter.
Well, let's go back to this audio.
Rick Flair has just challenged a manager or at least asked him to come outside.
I'm not going to show that because I'm on the clock.
You're on the pussy clock.
Let me stop right there.
That's my favorite line.
That's my favorite line and the whole thing.
I'm on the clock.
Yeah, you are.
You're on the pussy clock.
Hey, you, dipshit.
You're on the pussy clock.
Well, let's go back to the pussy clock and Rick Flair.
I'll stop.
Hey, you want to go out to talk with me in the park?
I don't give a shit.
No, no, no.
Let me.
What's that?
What's that?
No, sir.
Please stop.
Let me say to me.
What did you say to me?
Let me stop it there.
So a guy stands up and he says, and I love it.
And I love what he says.
He goes, you want to go to a park?
I'll go to park a lot.
I don't work here.
I don't give a shit.
And then the voice of reason is coming from the woman saying,
don't do that.
Is the waitress that's about to get a thousand dollar tip if somebody doesn't beat Rick up first?
And she's going, no, no, don't do that.
Don't do me.
See, that's the endurance test for the staff of these places.
Can we get this guy out of here in one piece before anyone kicks his ass
and he doesn't give us this giant tip that he's been promising us
for hours.
All right, well, he's been challenged.
This is almost the end here.
Well, that was the guy filming this
was asking for more mayonnaiseers.
And get a cup of mayonnaise, I don't know what he's saying, just one.
Rick Flair heard everything everyone said until the guy said, I'll go in the
Parker out with you, they don't want
said us, what did you say? What did you say? What? What did you say to me? Are you
addressing me, sir? Again, you know, it's um, he put this out there. No one knew anything
about any of this until he decided to, uh, bring his war with Pisano's to the public
forum. And now here we are, Rick Flair, the next day. I have an article here from TMZ
sports Rick Flair is sharing regret over losing his cool at the Gainesville Pizza Joint over the weekend,
saying he should have just walked right out the minute things got heated.
Nates joined the MJ Morning Show on Q105 to share his side of things on Wednesday,
and while he does feel bad for how things went down, he also felt he needed to stick up for himself.
It just escalated and I was wrong for getting mad, but I kind of felt like I was defending my position.
Flair said.
Flair also backtrack on his scathing review of the eatery,
admitting he enjoyed his time and his meal there,
before things went sideways.
I was wrong for losing my temper.
When I feel like I'm put in the area where I'm uncomfortable
and all of a sudden everything just fell apart,
I got upset.
I was wrong for getting upset.
I probably should have just walked out the door,
but it caught me so off guard,
because we were having a wonderful time.
Then all of a sudden, someone in their kitchen said I did something wrong in the bathroom.
Say that right.
Oh, damn it.
No.
And there's no one there except me in here.
Is anybody proofreading this shit?
The words somebody said, I did something wrong in the bathroom shouldn't have been fucking issued.
God damn to people not following the, the ins of the incident.
outs of this case.
Well, his last comment,
there's no one there except me and him,
so it's a, so he said, he said,
that's even worse.
God damn it.
What are they saying, though?
What are they saying?
Well, originally the story was that,
that apparently that Rick was yelling at the kitchen manager
because he wouldn't get out of the fucking shitter.
I don't know.
That's what it sounded like, but the way that Rick's
apology, it sounded like that
it's his word against his, that he was,
acted him properly in the bathroom with another man.
I'm not sure he's quelling this goddamn controversy.
Can we get...
Can we get him a PR fucking team that can tweet and spell and...
Remember, I think he has another year left on his AEW deal at least.
So we have that to look forward to.
Maybe...
Well, maybe he can get...
get the energy drink into all the Pisano's locations as a settlement on this thing.
But, that should be the spin.
This is what happened when I didn't have my energy drink in the morning.
And then you show that, and then the next time you show him buying pizzas for everyone
and giving out $1,000 tips like he's Oprah.
I love Rick.
I hate to say.
This is not just for Rick Flair, but it's for any celebrity or people in the public eye.
don't get
fucking inebriated in public
because everybody's got a camera
and they want to make you look like a dip shit
and if you do have a goddamn public incident
whether you were right or wrong
you were the inebriated one
don't fucking tell people about it
because then they'll research it
and find out that you were probably
the goddamn Egyptian
your own self
never been more disrespect in his life
the guy worked for Jim Hurd
I said, I'm going to cut your hair
cut your salary, take your belt
but he gave him pizza
See, no one ever said Jim Hurd didn't deliver the pizza
They delivered the pizza
I'm good fucking connection there
See that you can
You can find a fucking segue
To the pizza thing
But well we will stay on top of
The Rick Flair Restaurant Review
Here on the show
Maybe he'll visit a Cuban place next week
We don't know
You know I want to get to questions
but we have all these things happening and we got to talk about.
There's things going on.
Let's follow up on AEW Dynamite
because a ton of listeners have sent this over.
Oh, boy.
Apparently Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer
have gotten into another one of their spats.
Oh, you know, I hate it when you see the folks fight.
You know, mom and pop, it's been,
it's been so long coming now, the tension in their marriage.
And I'm reading now, Meltzer says what,
tweeted out some of the, I guess,
history of this mindset from November 2020, it's a clip. I'm not going to play this right now.
We'll see if we need to. Alvarez tries to explain to Meltzer that AEW has clearly defined
baby faces and heels. Dave disagrees and says it's situational and that Cody said so too.
And that Kenny Omega is not portraying a face or a heel. He's portraying a superstar.
So with that said, let's go to this audio. We're going to break it up a few times because it's long,
You got to hear this.
Again, the listeners are pounding us with it.
Brian Albrose and Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio.
You can see it on their YouTube page, F4W online.
Check this out.
You got to see the visuals on this.
Let's go to this.
I'm talking about Tony Storm.
Tony Storm beat Arley Cameron.
So the thing with this match was, I mean, first off,
like, Tony Storm's back to being a baby face this week,
after being a heel last week.
Serena Deeb's on the on the ramp watching on and smiling as Tony's getting beaten down I think
she's supposed to be a baby face but she came off as a heel and then it's like Tony Storm is
the champion against Harley Cameron and my God it felt like they went forever she's like beat her
already it wasn't that long let's stop for a second there I agree with everything he said well yeah
that's why don't watch the girls matches because there are some of these because then I
would just be saying the same things over and over,
but it's not limited to what we're watching.
It's also the shit we're skipping.
If I ask you, based on what you've seen,
is Tony Storm a baby face or a heel, what would you say?
At risk of hijacking the clip here for a second,
they had something at the start.
With Tony Storm kind of losing it a little bit
and having a nervous breakdown
and the silent movie star,
if they had played that straight and had some restraint
and let her believe it in her mind,
but everybody else would roll their eyes and she's nuts, right?
And then after she's established that for three or four months,
then maybe the understudy wanders into the picture,
maybe even just at ringside and maybe following her around,
and you tell that story.
And I'm not even opposed to
Luther. He finally has some
reason to exist. He's a
fucking rotten, fucking god-awful
wrestler, but as a fucking
bald-headed
Eric von Stroheim want to be,
he fits the fucking suit.
You could introduce him
and he could believe it, but
within three weeks,
everybody was going along with it.
Be Mankowitz was putting up with it.
And then within
a couple weeks after that, here's
the understudy and they know, oh, we're going to
do it all about Eve. Well, God damn.
Betty Davis had been a star on Broadway
in the scope of the picture for 20
years before the other flus he showed
up.
They just glommed all this together and
threw it all out there and now the understudy
wrestles more than Tony Storm does.
And
we don't know what the fuck
is even going on with that because the understudy
now is making out with the new
Japanese girl that they found somewhere.
And the answer to the question, is Tony Storm a baby face or a heel?
Quite simply, obviously, what happened, but then it got derailed by the booking,
she was a heel.
That was the place to start.
That was the logic of the whole thing.
But as she would get more goofy and lost in her mind and everything in the black and white era,
the fans would kind of start liking it
and that would kind of make her a baby face
to the fans that was still becoming a heel
or was still being a heel
and that's where the understudy would come in
because then the understudy
and you'd have to have Luther by that point
because he'd serve as the agent also or whatever
then the understudy would come in
and the understudy fucks Tony Storm
and it makes Tony Storm
the baby face that they've wanted to like all along
and puts heat on the understudy
now with fucking baldheaded fucking useless Luther
and there's six months, isn't it?
A reverse precious, yes, I think so.
And I guess would you agree that Serena Dee
was presented last week as a baby face?
Well, yeah, she has been
most of the time that I remember
and she's the professor and she's very technically
proficient. And last week, she was presented as a deer caught in a fucking headlights.
But that wasn't really the plan going in.
Well, let's continue with this audio because it'll come up.
Let's go back to Brian Albrose and Dave Meltzer on Tony Storm.
At all.
How long was it?
Let me see. Let me get my...
If it's more than two minutes, it was too long.
What?
I'm starting to like him more and more.
You know, God damn.
What if he teams up with fucking Kenny?
Olivier, the goddamn world is coming
to an end. To push Harley Cameron.
They gave... She's had one
match prior to this. Tony's
the champion. They're trying to build Tony
to a match on the pay-per-view in a week
with somebody else.
Have Harley beat somebody else.
Mariah Matt.
What is he,
for all Brian Alvarez's faults
when it comes to AEW coverage and listening
to certain people and repeating certain
fucking spins.
When it comes to the booking,
he's pointing out all the stuff
we all see. You can ignore
it. Well, apparently you
can because the guy on the other end of the fucking horn
there, as they used to say, is
ignoring it. Well, let's hear what Dave
has to say, but I agree with every single thing
Brian Lephyr. Let's hear what Dave
has to stutter. Well, let's see,
Tony Storm, they went seven minutes.
Seven minutes.
I mean, that's a short match for
AEW television.
I was not a big fan of this.
And it was the only women's match on the show.
If they had the only women's match on the show and they went two minutes,
I promise you there's going to be so much criticism online.
Well, you know what I have to say about online criticism?
I would rather book for success than worry about online criticism.
I don't care if people are angry that it was only two minutes.
I would not have Tony Storm a week before a title defense on pay-per-view going seven
minutes back and forth with Harley Cameron, who's had one match.
Boom!
It's making a lot of sense.
Now we know Dave is hearing this.
We know that Dave is getting this information fed to him by someone close to him,
rather than an adversarial type of situation.
Is he just incapable of the understanding of the same?
who looked good in the one match
and this was a good match
I thought
I mean hardly Cameron
for the number of matches she's had
is really good
they had a very good match
Tony Storm
instead of doing the gimmick
is showing that in fact
she's wrestling seriously
what she did in this match
and I thought it was very effective
who cares whether it's a good match
it's not supposed to be
they're building to a good match, a good match that people care about.
It's like I said earlier, everything in AEW is a competitive squash match.
It doesn't matter who the person they're pushing is in there with.
It's not about Harley Cameron in this case.
It's about the champion, not being able to beat someone in seven minutes.
In this case, that's too long.
But in other cases, we see matches go like 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
You know what the conclusion is.
it's all about just having a great match.
The last time...
Who's the heel?
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
No, it doesn't.
Dave, I have seen so many segments with Tony Storm
where there is no heat for the interview
because nobody cares about the baby face.
Guess what she came?
Did you watch the segment they did last week?
Did you?
Wait, wait, wait, did you in the building
when Tony Storm came out and she got cheered like crazy?
This match did not have no heat.
This match had.
plenty of heat.
Cameron was the heel.
Harley Cameron was heel.
Tony Storm was a big time baby thing.
Yes, Dave.
And last week, she was a heel.
Tony was a heel last week.
So whoever they...
And Serena was out there doing a sad story
about how she almost died.
And guess what?
And nobody cared.
They booed her.
We'll stop in there for a moment.
Dave is incapable of
really pointing out the flaw
with the AEW booking, isn't he?
I, you know,
it, it makes you
stutter and stammer like Dave
at this point to wonder
whether
that he really
can't see what he's
saying or what he's not saying
or whether it's that he can't
figure out an artful
way to
deflect it
so he just has to disagree with it.
It's, he's panicking.
He's making a valid point.
He's thinking in his head.
This guy's making a valid point.
And I can't figure out a way to get out of it.
So I'm just going to disagree with it, even though it's nonsense to disagree.
He flat out said it didn't matter if she was a heel or a baby face.
And Alvarez correctly pointed out she was a heel last week.
She's just suddenly a baby face now this week.
It doesn't help long-term growth to book like that.
Right?
No, of course not.
And nobody can keep straight from one week to the other
whose side they're supposed to be on in this conflict.
Let's go back to what has been titled
The Great Tony Storm Debate, Alvarez and Meltzer,
Wrestling Observer Radio.
So they switched the thing around to follow the crowd.
What's wrong with that?
Because they didn't switch it.
And she will be a heel the next time you see her.
It doesn't matter as long as the crowd reacted like crazy.
This is on WW does this constantly.
No, they don't.
They have baby faces and heels.
They have baby faces and heels.
Now at this point, Dave is like, you have to see the visual.
It's almost like it hit him that Alvarez is right, but he was already ready to fire back with an argument.
And he's like, he starts twitching with it, like holding it in.
Yeah, he's firing back with an argument.
He just can't figure out what it is.
So does AW.
except with Tony.
And it's situational.
It depends on who's wrestling who, on what show.
That's not, I mean, they have technically baby face.
What's the last show where Drew is a baby face?
Drew McIntyre's not.
He's a heel.
Okay.
What about, what about Bronson Reed and Chad Gable when they wrestle each other?
Who's the baby face and who is the heel?
Bronson Reed and Chad Gable?
Yeah.
What match?
They should have matched last week.
Chad was the heel.
And he is a heel.
So Bronson reads the baby face.
Is Bronson read the baby face next week?
Is he usually the baby face?
No, that's what happens.
You have situational things and that's what you do.
Does that make any sense, situational baby faces and heels?
No, because it's not just switching back while you're interacting with the same pool of people,
the side that we're supposed to take as observers,
switches from one week to the next week with AEW.
With yes, Sarita was supposed to be the sympathetic person
and Tony to give a shit, but this week, and blah, blah, blah.
In the WWE, yes, you do have heels, wrestling heels,
or baby face wrestling baby faces,
and sometimes crowd picks aside,
but they're not changing sides with each other
as to who you're supposed to support individual people
from one week to the next.
I'm trying to figure out a way to verbalize that.
Let's go back to the man who cited Chad Gable versus Bronson Reed
as the great example of this experiment, Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez.
Everyone has it because you sometimes make matches where there's a different thing.
It's not a big deal.
It's certainly no one here because the match was effective.
The match was good.
And again, Tony Storm, who has done a lot of the gimmick so heavy for so long
that has not shown up shown off her wrestling skill
and she's going to do a match with serena db where
whatever it is they are going to go out and do a wrestling match
so therefore for if sir if um tony storm went and did her tony storm gimmick in serena d
on the pay-per-view it would suck so they're basically showing
she's going to wrestle tony storm and they're going to have a good match
so that is so we can just let's see is they've explaining it or the
offending it. That's the issue.
Well, he sounds like he's trying to do both,
and that's why people think
that he's full of horse shit.
But what the
point is, is what he's saying there,
if it would be correct then, that
goddamn Tony Storm
should then go out and completely
out wrestle this girl and slap a
submission hold on her in about two minutes
and blow through her.
Look what I'm going to do to Sarita. I've been
training. I know all these holes. I know.
the crotch-locked leg strangle
and the Guatemalan flying toehold
and boom
yeah then it would make sense
but not she's going to have a great
worked wrestling match
she's going to fucking take 10 minutes
to demonstrate all of the great moves
that she can do in this fake bullshit
she's going to do with his other girl
yeah really what kind of explanation is that
if she's going to go out there in the ring and have a match
in k-fabe against this professor in the ring
who could dismantle everyone
she's going to go out there and show that she can impress people in the ring by going seven minutes with someone who's never wrestled before or once before on TV?
Yes, that, yes, that's what he's saying because he's an idiot and he doesn't understand what he's fucking saying.
He doesn't understand the words that are coming out of his own mouth.
Well, let's hear more of those words.
After the double nothing man.
That is what they are, that is what the story is.
The story is that she went in there and the crowd cheered her.
The crowd knew who the baby face was.
The crowd knew who the heel was.
They cheer Tony all the time.
But they cheer her every week, even when she's playing the heel role against another baby face.
She should always be a baby face.
There's no need for her to be a heel.
She's never going to get booed.
Okay.
So can we stop killing all the other baby faces by having her be a heel that everyone loves?
Okay.
I've never seen anyone do to Dave what Dave does to other people.
like I don't know.
Up, up, up, up, up.
He just completely steamrolled them.
Yeah, and by the way, it also,
the only reason why people know
that Harley Cameron draws a breath on the face of this
big blue marble hurtling through space
is because she was the QTV girl.
And if anybody would fucking not want to see any more of anything,
it would be on what was on QTV.
So, yeah.
She's known for QTV and also,
being in a feud over gaping.
Let's go back to Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer.
Okay, but that's the problem.
Okay.
No.
Okay.
What is what is what is what is the other thing that Tony Storm?
What's the other thing that Tony Storm?
She is the world champion.
Yes.
A real world champion wrestles baby faces and heels.
And in that role, depending upon the situation, you are situational.
That's everyone from Luthas to Jack Briscoe to Dory Funk Jr.
to
Flare to whatever.
Let me stop it
because that's absurd
to compare one to the other.
There's to Ganya to flare
to Tony Storm.
No,
she's not traveling around the world
to hostile territories
fucking defending
the precious
A.E.W.
Women's World title,
one of the women's titles.
Seriously,
just Dave, come out and say
what I said,
encapsulated
earlier. She needed to start as a heel, which she did.
And if they'd have allowed this to flesh out
instead of jumping a shark with it after three weeks,
the fans would have liked it, and then she would have had
some way to turn with the understudy and the
evil agent or whatever and become a full-fledged baby
face. And there would have been some logical progression
and story and in the character and the whole, all these other buzzwords,
these fucking little
fucking tap dancing kids like to
fucking say.
And instead, they booked it into a goddamn mess like they do everything else and just come out
and say it.
No, they're just cheering her because they like her because she's interesting, and that's
better than most of the drek that's on this program.
But that none of this makes any sense from week to week or has any consistency.
Please come out and say that, Uncle Dave.
And again, there's a difference in explaining, which is kind of what Alvarez is doing
about the way this has all been laid out and reality
and defending, which is what Dave is doing.
Dave is defending this booking.
Which has led to these numbers.
What's like his mother's being held over an open flame
if he in any way loses this argument.
He can't be wrong.
Let's go back to Mr. Wright.
What's happening here.
What's happening is she is a heel.
She's not a heel.
She is portrayed as a girl.
She is portrayed as a.
a heel. You have to see the video of this, Dave, it's the camera's on him and he gets really mad
and he like lunges, he lunges towards the camera. I could be, I could be fearing for my life
if I saw that. No, there's a camera. He lunges towards the camera, not at anyone, so you don't
have to worry, but he lunges towards the camera. Well, if it was in 3D, well, let's go back to
the great argument here. She was a portrait. And they have her opponents. They have her opponents
was not, Dave, this is not portrayed. She was not portrayed as a heel. This is an exception.
Harley Cameron is a heel. Harley Cameron is a heel. She was a baby face. Yes. If you watch the
show, this is an exception. And guess what? Guess what? And it is a angle that makes sense because
Harley Cameron wrestled Mariah May, her protege. And who is portrayed as a baby face?
Well, who is a baby face in that match, in that situation. So therefore, she's trying to get
revenge for the fact that they beat up Mariah May.
And so in that role, she is in fact the baby face.
So she was a baby face.
She got cheered.
She had a good match.
And right. Hold on one second.
She had a good match.
And we keep hearing that.
And also the evil under, all about Eve, whether she was evil or just of a fucking
opportunist or whatever, the understudy that's brought in.
to do the we kept hearing at the start of this angle
we're doing all about Eve.
They had grand delusions.
They were Orson Wells.
I think they're more like H.G. Wells.
This is some science fiction bullshit.
But the understudy is supposed to be
the fucking catalyst for the heel star
of our show, Tony Storm, to become a baby face.
And now the fucking
the understudies a baby face first.
So does that make any god-dustre?
damn sense or are they just redoing all about Eve to make it all about Steve?
And again, Dave is vociferously defending this, which is crazy.
It's almost like he booked it himself.
Let's go back to this.
Oh, they had a good wrestling match where she showed that she was wrestling.
There was nothing, I can't find a thing wrong with this at all.
Well, we'll discuss this again next Wednesday for the next segment they do with Tony Storm
and Serena Deeb.
Okay.
Because I will predict.
But if they go in the match.
So if they cheer Tony Storm cool, if they booed Tony Storm cool, they're probably going to cheer.
But that's...
Yes, they are going to cheer her.
Well, fine.
That's fine.
What's wrong with that?
Because her opponent is being pushed as a baby face.
And no one cares about her opponent.
And the exact same thing happened with Deanna.
Deanna was supposed to be the baby face.
Nobody cared.
Okay.
Well, if they go out there and go, if the fans don't care, then guess what?
It would have been even worse if she was the heel and, um, and Shrine was the baby face, at least in this case.
Hold on.
I don't understand what that meant.
I don't.
I've lost it around the far turn.
I, there was, there was a big bush there and they switched places.
I don't know what now he is saying.
What do you think?
think of Alvarez
kind of marching on Dave?
I mean, everything he's saying, I agree with.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's saying
anything that's out of the bounds of sanity,
reason, or logic.
He's making, every point he's made is
valid and Dave won't.
He will not give up that fucking ground.
San Juan Hill is safe.
And I think this is actually beyond
Dave and Brian arguing about this.
The bigger issue is,
this is one of those things with AEW, they need the change.
You need baby faces and eels.
We've seen the experiment now.
You need baby faces and heels.
And maybe this is why AEW, unfortunately, is listening to Uncle Dave as he sinks
further and further into the root of bega of his brain.
And most normal people are forced to think like Alvarez, like normal logical human beings.
what is happening. That's why I'm saying it needs to go the other way.
Serena Deeb should be the heel. Tony should be the baby face.
Deanna should have been the heel. Tony should have been the baby face. Tony should be the baby face going forward.
Okay. That's what should happen. Okay. Then Tony should be the baby face. If the fans, sure.
I agree. I agree. Well, we'll see what happens next week when she's the heel and Serena's the baby face.
What's what they did last week. But guess what? Serena was not necessarily a baby face when she was out on the ramp.
at all. She wasn't today, but she was last week when she's talking about how she almost died.
Guess what? She's begging the fans to cheer and they won't. Brian. Yes. That maybe he did it again.
Brian. Brian. Brian. Oh, Brian. She almost died. You know what? That used to be.
It reminds me, Stacey on her cell phone. She customized Gary Jester's ringtone.
I remember this.
Every time Gary Jester would call her cell phone trying to get a hold of me for some emergency,
it would be Goldman from Family Guy going, oh my God, I think I just had a miscarriage.
Be they learned from last week.
Is there a possibility they learned from last week?
And that's why they did this, aside from the fact that it all fits into the storyline.
Dave, you want to know why I'll say no, there's not a possibility?
Okay.
Because three weeks ago, Tony Storm was playing.
the baby face role. And I was like, okay, finally they figured it out. Tony's the baby face.
The very next week, they switched it again and had Serena D play baby face and talk about how she
almost died, begging fans to cheer, and nobody did. Well, guess what? So they learned.
Okay. So they learned. So they learned. So they learned. We will figure out next Wednesday when they
do another segment. If she's still a baby face. Where were we?
Well, it doesn't, I mean, as long as the crowd, look, as long as the crowd's going to react,
act, I don't care who the baby faces or the heel is.
In this day and age, the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do.
So let's stop. That's a very interesting thing he just said. In this day and age, the crowd's
going to do what the crowd's going to do. Does that mean the booker should give up on trying
to push them in certain directions? No, of course not. The crowd is going to do what the crowd's
going to do when the crowd gets bored or is scoffing at what they're seeing and is not
interested in it or because they're not
they can make up more interesting shit amongst themselves
or see more interesting things about a particular talent
than it's being presented on the show by the supposed
professionals. That's when the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do.
Every once in a while
you have a personality that they're going to like
and they're going to get into something that that person does
or the,
the monkeys.
Because they took that classic ass weapon
and they looked like such nebishes,
but they, you know,
the people loved him.
Or we had an OVW who got him Rod Steele.
He was big and tall
and kind of bland,
but he got a fucking Randy Savage
kind of sparkly, you know,
cape outfit,
and he would do a big body slam.
Because that was the best movie.
he had, right?
And we'd put him in dark matches
and every once in a while he'd make television
because I couldn't use him seriously
as part of the developmental program.
But the fans in
unison, whenever he would
body slam somebody, they would scoop
slam! It'd be like
they're chanting for Cody, right
today. So we would
have him have a dark match
and let the people see him
and he would get to do
three or four scoop slams
in a row.
But that didn't mean that we goddamn
then put a belt on him and had him open the show
for 40 weeks in a row.
The point is
you've got to tell
the stories that you want
to tell and put
your talent,
especially your main talent,
your key talent, in consistent
positions.
You can't have
a guy portrayed as foreclosing
on the fucking orphanage,
over at the shady rest one week
in your story, in your program,
and then the next week,
have him
tragically befall a fucking situation
from some other heel,
and boy, we should give him our sympathy.
Fuck it, it's what he deserved,
because last week he foreclosed on the orphanage.
You've got to be consistent.
You can't have,
just because the crowd is going to cheer someone
because they like them,
does not override the fact that you can't have somebody
being arrested for goddamn
aggravated mayhem
one week and then be portrayed as a moral saint
and a straight-edge character the next week.
That's what does it work in any kind of storytelling
or any kind of character development
or any kind of form of entertainment.
You're just telling people,
I can't trust any of these motherfuckers,
so I'm disinterested.
Well, let's go back.
There's a little bit more.
Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez arguing
on Wrestling Observer Radio.
You know, I mean, how many times
we went through this whole thing
with John Sina for 10 years?
Yeah, and what did we say, Dave?
We say, should have gone baby face.
John Sina should have stayed baby face.
Yeah.
And when Roman Rains was getting
booed like crazy, we say
should have gone heel.
Okay, John Sine would have gone with it.
Okay, each time...
I never said John Sina should turn heel.
I was always against John Cena turning heel because guess what?
I think about business.
And the business was that John Cena was selling the most tickets and John Cena was selling most merchandise.
And if he turned heel, the merchandise sales would go down.
And that's why Vince McMahon never turned him.
And when he went to the house shows, he always got cheered.
And it was just the TV crowd.
And John Cena was the most successful character they had for all those years as he was being booed as a baby face.
so it doesn't matter that he was booed as a baby face at all because he was the number one drawing card that they had that entire period except for a brief period i think then i think we pause for a second yes numb nuts everything you just said was true and also during that time john sena was preaching hustle and loyalty and respect and fucking make a wish and positive principles and never say die and never give up
and, you know, he was a little negative,
you can't see me,
but he wasn't flip-flopping
between stabbing people into back
and turning on his friends one week
and then being that same stand-up person
the next week,
or he wasn't wrestling opponents
that had just come back from serious
goddamn open fucking colon surgery
or had deaths in a family
and was on a comeback tour
and being his opponents weren't portrayed in sympathetic lights.
Everybody's point in this morality play was clearly defined
and whose side that a normal person would want to be on in the story
if you believe the story, which is where they had the kids and the casuals,
and the hardcores booed him, because they weren't happy with whatever the fuck.
but the kids and the casuals
were still buying all the merchandise.
They didn't have him come out and say,
well, fuck half the audience then.
To react to this,
they continued telling the story that made sense.
Brian, did I articulate that clearly?
Very clearly.
I'm sorry.
Let's go back to the opposite side of clarity.
Dave Mills.
A brief period where Jeff Hardy may have surpassed him.
But, you know, it was brief because, you know,
didn't, uh, whatever, you know, it didn't sustain and Jeff was Jeff, you know, they, you know,
so it does, like the whole point is it's, it doesn't matter who they cheer or boo. You, you, it's,
everything is situational. Sometimes fans are going to boo baby faces. And if they do, you know,
it kind of sucks when they boo a baby face. So you, that's probably better to turn them. But sometimes,
like again, John Cena shows in this case, it's, I've seen so many heels get cheered. And it was,
fine, you know? I mean, it's, it's tough for a baby face, but if business is good, then it's,
you know, whatever. Everyone shared the NWO. It was great for a while. At some point, of course,
it turned bad, but that was years. It took years. It took years. Three years. They were out of business.
And they tried to turn a baby face to begin with. Well, that's the end of that.
Jesus Christ. The problem is this is kind of a great way to look at Tony Kahn's mindset.
and the justifications he has internally for his booking,
because he leans on Dave.
And you hear Dave defending this bad booking,
trying to compare it to things that worked in the past.
Look at the results.
There's no resemblance to anything that's ever been done in the past,
much less worked in the past.
And again, don't defend things when they're not working.
Look at the ratings.
Look at the pay-per-view buys.
Everything is down, down, down.
So it's not the time to defend what's not working.
It's the time to try to say the things out loud to cause them to fix things.
And that's not what we got here.
Any other thoughts on Dave's defense of Tony Storm's booking and anything else here?
Well, no, if they pay Dave per word or partial word, then he's making a ton of money,
but he can't form a cogent simile and get to the,
point because for one thing he doesn't have a point to get to.
Every time you analyze it, unless you go around in circles like he's doing,
you come to the conclusion that Alvarez makes a very good point.
Whether in real life or whether in the K-Fabe storyland of the television program or all
points in between, yes, the fans are going to cheer for whoever they want to these days
because they're all smart to begin with.
but there needs to be consistency from one week to the next,
or if someone drastically changes their viewpoint or their moral fiber or their demeanor,
there needs to be some pivotal point that happens to them that causes that.
Or if a man's longtime manager and confidant gets laid out and we never see him again,
he probably should refer to him even if to say,
Well, it took me a while to fucking dig the hole,
but I finally got rid of that son of a bitch.
These type of things.
And that's not happening.
And Dave is trying to defend it.
He can't defend it because it doesn't,
it's not even,
it's not even good storytelling for smart fans,
much less for people that actually would make this a profitable company
comparable to or competitive with the industry leader.
He's out of touch with thinking,
outside the wrestling bubble.
He's stuck in the wrestling bubble and he doesn't realize it.
He's in one of the smaller wrestling bubbles too.
This goes even past the kind of interested fan that, you know,
watches a lot of the TV shows and buys t-shirts.
This is all the way into the, you know,
we're paraplegics and can't move so we're stuck on the internet type of wrestling thing.
I have some more news from the real world before we get to wrestling
because we have so much fun with this stuff.
Jim, a few stories. I have this one from the Washington Post here.
The four-top singer accuses hospital of racism putting him in a straight jacket.
What?
Have you been following this story?
No, I have not only have I not been following it, but it has escaped me.
And apparently one of the four tops has escaped somewhere.
Which one?
Well, what's happening?
This article's by Leo Sands, and for the record, there is one of the original
Four Tops who's still alive, but like a lot of classic
Duop groups or Motown groups, they still tour
with the one active member, one living member
and replace them. And the rest of them have been
replay. Is this sugar pie or honey bunch? I'm not sure, but it's
probably a very nice show. He probably has a very nice voice. But
here's the article. The lead singer of the Four Tops
Motown band is suing a Michigan hospital
at Duce.
I just saw the story. I'm sorry.
and two staff members,
alleging racial discrimination
after they wrongfully treated him
as if he was mentally ill.
What?
When he identified himself as a member of the group.
Alexander Morris, who is black,
said in his lawsuit that staffers
at South East Michigan, Ascension McComb, Oakland Hospital.
Now wait, let's make sure
where the hate mail goes to the right place.
What's the name of this fucking?
joint.
Michigan's Ascension McComb, Oakland Hospital assumed he was delusional after arriving at the
hospital in an ambulance with clear symptoms of cardiac distress.
Oh my God.
In April 2023.
He's having a heart attack and he tells him that my name is so-and-so, what, he'd have
a member of the four tops and they put the heart attack patient a stray jacket?
After identifying himself as a member of the four tops, said Marrow.
53, workers denied him medical treatment by removing him from oxygen, and instead ordered him to
undergo a psychological evaluation, and placed him in a restraining jacket. After 90 minutes, the singer
was released from restraints when he was able to show a video of himself performing at the
Grammys to a nurse, the lawsuit alleges. Oh, shit. This is insane, isn't it? What do you think she then
said to this guy
in a straight jacket that she's seeing
perform as a member of the four tops
in Las Vegas. Can you
imagine you're having a heart attack? You go to the hospital
and I don't know how it comes up.
You know, hey sir, tell us a little bit
about you, whatever it may be. I'm
the lead singer of the four tops
and maybe they, I guess
maybe their argument's going to be we didn't know the four tops
were still performing. I mean, I don't know what your argument
could be, but it shouldn't be
lock them up, put him in a straight chat
to the straight jack. Well,
besides that, I mean, as you mentioned, yes, we know that everybody from, you know, Casey and the Sunshine Band to the Four Tops have changed members, especially the Motown soul groups, because, you know, like if you've got one of them alive in a lot of cases, due to age, it's miraculous they can still perform. And they fill in the, fucking Leonard Skinnerd.
Jesus.
So you don't...
Bill Haley's Comets.
Bill, I've got...
I didn't even...
I didn't know any of them
were still around.
I think there may be a comet left.
Well, one layer...
Haley's comet.
But the point is
this isn't
racial discrimination
as much as is it medical
malpractice
because even if the guy
says I'm fucking
Julius Caesar,
and he still having a heart attack?
And so maybe that's what,
you don't stop treatment
because he says, yeah,
you know, fucking Rick Finch
don't want to go on a road anymore.
So Harry Wayne Casey got a whole new band
or whatever the fuck, right?
I don't understand.
This is medical malpractice.
Let me scroll down a little bit.
Regardless of what, make sure the guy's not having a heart attack.
And then.
Yeah, well, he should.
Oh, me, Joe, but he's suing for at least 75,000 in damages,
alleging he was misdiagnosed and mistreated because of his race by the hospital,
a nurse, and a security guard.
And then it says here that when he went in,
hospital employees wrongfully assumed he was mentally ill
and made the decision or remove him from oxygen
and pursue a psychiatric evaluation instead.
You know, that's scary that that could happen.
It did.
Now, wait, when he came in.
that that could happen.
When he does it say
there in that
crack reporting?
Well, here you go.
When he tried to resolve
the mistake by asking to show
identification, the lawsuit alleges,
a white security guard told him
to quote,
sit his black ass down.
There you go.
There you go.
That's why he's going to win.
Okay, now it's medical malpractice
and racial discrimination.
But how did he arrive there?
Did he come in an ambulance?
Was he...
He was in an ambulance, I believe.
After Morris showed a nurse, a video of his performance at the Grammys, the lawsuit said the nurse realized he was a member of the four tops,
and the nurse went and got an emergency room doctor, or got the emergency room doctor to inform him.
The emergency room doctor returned and said he was canceling the psychological evaluation.
No, he should have taken it himself.
The lawsuit said that Morris was ultimately diagnosed with a heart-ish.
requiring a potential transplant and pneumonia that he suffered three seizures during the hospital stay.
As an apology, Morris said, oh my God.
The hospital offered him a $25 gift card for a supermarket, which he declined.
I'm so aware of that.
It's just so ridiculous.
But what was the amount that you just said that he's suing for?
He's suing for at least 75,000 in damages.
At least him, who the fuck is advising this fucking guy?
Wait a minute.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you are ever taken to a hospital
and put into a straitjacket instead of receiving medical treatment
because you are a famous person,
or at least you're somebody that they don't think you are,
I know who you can call.
Call Stephen Pee.
New to a mud show for two
Those are the rest.
Boy, howdy, go no further.
Then what is this guy's name again?
The new top, Brian.
What's his name?
The lead singer of the four taps.
Four taps.
Four tops moat.
Maybe I'm going to get locked up.
Even Jack Pepper used to tour with the four taps.
Alexander Morris.
Alexander Morris.
Stephen P. New needs to call.
you because you are a fucking idiot if you're suing this hospital he's been through a lot it's no 75,000
but you know how much Stephen Pino could get this guy in his sleep in Beckley, West Virginia,
much less goddamn. Where is this place located? This was in Michigan. What part of Michigan?
The Ascension McComb, Oakland, Oakland, if those are towns, I would presume. Well, I think, I think
that's counties. And I think it's around Detroit.
Detroit. And my guy, Stephen P. New, Alexander will be the new chief of staff of that hospital if
Stephen P. New gets a hold of him or he gets a hold of Stephen P. New. How is that not a multi-million
dollar lawsuit? I come in, I've got pneumonia and heart issues, and I come in in an ambulance.
And just because I say I'm the lead singer of the four tops, which I really am, and can prove it if you'll shut the
fuck up.
You're fucking putting me in a straight
jacket.
And this is medical
malfeasance at its most
masterful. This is
an open and shut. That's a slam
dunk, as they say
in the legal profession.
How the fuck, 75th,
I'll buy
his case for 75,000.
I will write him a check right now
for $75,000
and buy his case.
and I'll hire Stephen P. New, and he'll get me $3 million.
I don't think it works that way.
You can't buy and sell these things?
No, it's not like a wrestler's contract.
Well, shit, as Mama Cornett used to say.
The hospital's defense is going to be last week.
We had three Smokey Robinson's and two David Ruffins come in.
But that Eddie Kendricks, he broke some shit.
With his voice, with his high-pitched voice.
Yes, yes, every window in the fucking operating room.
is shattered.
Stephen Pino.
Oh, yes, yes.
Well, I think, oh, 87750, Steve is the number for you to call Stephen Alexander.
Well, no, don't call him, don't call him Alexander.
His name is Stephen.
But I'm saying, Alexander, call 87750 Steve to get a hold of Steve to smarten your ass up.
How did you skip right past the idea?
Because this is incredulous to me.
They gave him a $25 gift card for a $1.
supermarket.
What the fuck?
It was already past the point of...
He declined it.
He's smartly declined.
Well, yeah, I'm sure he did.
Declined up their ass.
Their ass became a broken ATM machine and it declined it.
What the fuck?
How could you...
No, this is...
I am incensed that this fucker's trying to let him off with 75 grand.
There's got to be some punitive issues going on here.
They have got to be punitized.
You know what it means to be punitized in court, don't you, Brian?
I'm a small town bird lawyer, and I know all the verbiage.
When you're punitized on top of the damagedized,
that means you get three times the money and in cash.
And you get to sleep with the other guy's wife.
Again, I don't think any of this.
I'm pretty certain none of this is actually what happens.
But Stephen P. New law office.com.
Yeah, well, you know, that goes without saying.
That wasn't the highlight of the show.
No, no.
Because then, Brian, I had completely forgotten
where Russell Dream came from,
what the meaning, the heart and soul behind,
wrestle Dream, what I'd forgotten
that it was all a tribute
from Antonio Konoki to Antonio Inoki.
since they did it last year and I thought they might have the good sense to leave it alone at this point.
But no, they returned this year and Tony came out.
And I, he was.
He's a social moron.
You know what I mean?
He has no idea how to just, how to be.
But he was just, he was hopping.
Well, first he was,
he was looking out at the people
and he was kind of not really hopping
but just kind of vibrating a bit back and forth
and then he began screaming
and it wasn't like that they were doing
the Dominic Mysterio thing where every time he opens his mouth
they're trying to make noise and drown him out
they were already half-ass listening right
I don't want to scream like he's
I can't do it I can't do it
I would hurt myself.
Thank you, Tacoma!
Everyone!
And he's holding the mic.
It's not like he's screaming with no mic.
No, he's screaming into the mic.
While these two very calm children next to him are just standing there.
Well, no, wait a minute.
First, he came out first and then and started screaming,
and then he brought them out to scream at them while not looking at them.
He was neither blinking.
nor looking at the two people, he said, the grandchildren,
the grandsons of Antonio Inoki.
And now I started to think as they walk out next to him and they got the red towels around a neck,
and he's giving their names, and I truthfully didn't write their first names down,
not disrespecting these teenage young men.
But to point is Tony is screaming their names,
but he's not looking at him
and they're two feet to the left of him.
I'm thinking, is he reading the names
from behind the camera
but then the whole time that he was screaming at the fans
he never looked at these kids once.
Did you notice that?
I did notice that.
He also called Antonio Inoki
wrestling's greatest dreamer.
Yes, yes.
Like when he dreamed of taking New Japan's profits
and diverting them to other interests that he had.
and that sugar cane plant or farm in Brazil.
But he dreamed up a lot of creative accounting.
But no, so.
I also want to honor Hiroshi Shinma, wrestling's greatest scapego!
That's where they got the gimmick from.
Yeah, from Shinma.
You know what?
At that point, the grandkids should have just grabbed the microphone and said,
honorable
Mr. Shinma was innocent.
It was Sayama all along.
Sayama, really?
Not Sakaguchi, but it's a total swerve.
It's Tiger Mass.
It was all his fault.
See, once again,
we're now, we talk about them narrow casting,
but then folks, this is the only way that Brian and I
can make it entertaining for ourselves.
They should have had Maeda run out there and shoot kick both of the kids.
Start a new feud.
Face in.
Yeah.
But, no,
Tony comes out, he screams at the people,
he brings out the two grandsons of Antonio Inoki,
screams their names, he's neither blinking
nor looking at these two people that are right next to him.
And then is to an honor of Antonio Onogi,
Resoling Greatest Dreamer, the whole big thing,
he's screaming,
we want everybody to let's do Antonio Onoki's famous chant.
And when he said that,
I swear to God
the place was so quiet
I could hear a black hole
turning in outer space
nobody knew what the fuck to do
they don't
it's been 40 years right
the New Japan
and never in America
was that chant over
and no and so
but they've anticipated
then they may not have anticipated
the dead salads maybe they thought
people are going to go yes let's all join
in doing this thing that you're going to
hopefully tell us how to do.
So then they put it up on the screen.
And Tony Kahn tries to, or Tony Shavani,
I'm sorry, too, is standing there who's introduced this whole thing.
He's there to help Tony Kahn lead this chant.
Tony Shavani tries to read it for the people,
but it's up there fairly quickly,
so Tony's a beat behind, and it's in Japanese.
So for people who have never,
one would think
heard it or seen it written or
whatever one time may not
be enough
what is it
Nietzsche Issa Nita
Okay
and people are thinking
Nissan or Toyota
but Ichi Nisenda
but it goes by on the screen one time
and Tony Shivani reads it and then
this is one of the most awkward segments
I've ever seen on
Tony Kahn says
That's right
One more time and it's
off the screen and they've gone back to a graphic.
And the people are like,
oh, wait a minute, what are we supposed to do?
They started to get with it at the end
when they realized that they could read it, right?
So he calls for it again, it's not there.
And he's saying,
one more time to Tony, like, can you help?
And just then it pops back up.
And then Tony's ahead of everybody doing it
because he's just all amped up.
Everybody doing it.
No one was doing it.
The chant.
He still, the famous chant.
I mean, when he said, let's all do his famous chant,
I said to myself, there's no way anyone here is going to know what that is.
This could be really awkward, and that it was even more awkward.
Because it was him and Chivani leading it and no one doing it.
Tony was even ahead of Tony Chavani.
Tony Kahn was even ahead.
And then Tony Kahn thanked everybody and people walked away.
They were on the stage.
And some of them may have walked out of the,
the arena as well, but awkward.
In Japanese, Anoki's grandchildren said, what the fuck?
Yeah.
So last time I do this shit, my grandfather would have walked out.
And one kid would look like he was fucking 16.
How long has Anoki been gone now?
I guess it's only a few years now.
Only a few years, but I don't remember how old his children were.
Remember there was Simon Anoki?
Nochi wasn't his real name, but he was the son-in-law.
Yeah, I was going to say he was, by me,
marriage related.
So are those Simon Anoki's kids?
I guess that's what it could be.
Well, at least that way, maybe he didn't have to fly him all the way in from Japan.
He could have just brought him up from Los Angeles.
That's all, do his famous chant.
That's one of the greatest phrases ever for something no one knew what he was going to do.
And Chivani, noted New Japan expert Chavani was going to help him lead the chant.
He was probably reading it for the first time.
But it was like if somebody had come out there with the moment.
microphone and said, okay, everybody in the crowd, let's now chant Socrates's theory in ancient
Greek.
I thought this segment was so amazing.
I was dumbfounded.
And I said, there's no way Jim watched a pre-show.
I need to find it.
Couldn't find it anywhere on YouTube.
Because I was going to send you the link.
This is a must-see segment.
Tony Con has no idea how to behave in public or how to use a microphone.
and then the chant part with Chavani
is one of the most awkward moments
in the history of wrestling television.
And this is still just a pre-show.
This is just the pre-show.
It's like if you had two Abbots and no Costello.
It was just, it was very strange.
That was the one segment on the pay-per-view.
I couldn't wait.
I was hoping you saw the pre-show
and I couldn't wait to hear
what you would say about that
because it was stunning,
for Tony's disheveled look, the stoicism of the Inoki grandchildren, as this is all happening,
Chavani at his frumpiest worst, and no one there knowing this chant, and they pulled back and
they get the wide shot just so you can feel the awkwardness.
Yes, everybody's like, what do we do? What do we do?
And they put the words on the screen that didn't really seem to help, and then Tony wants
them to keep going. And the owner of the company saying, let's do it again.
and they just play music like it's the Grammys
and they're trying to get them off the stage.
Remember when they did it like Sinatra?
Lifetime Grammy.
Was it the Grammys of the Oscars
where they gave Sinatra a Lifetime Award.
Oh shit.
It was like his last appearance ever on TV,
old man Sinatra.
And he comes up and he gives the big speech
and they start playing music to get him off the stage.
All right.
So this is, no, it ain't your program, is it?
It's my show.
It's the experience, actually.
Yes, but you have.
Before we get to this Smackdown as our grand finale, you have a couple of things that are making the news as we're sitting here speaking that we needed to discuss or talk about or acknowledge or whatever.
Is that correct?
Well, in the last day, because it started while we were recording yesterday, we've just received a bunch of emails about three specific things.
Emails and tweets about three specific things.
So I thought we should probably address them here.
why wait until the drive-thru, which is...
There's an outcry from the people, and we need to go ahead and get this done to get these people
off our back.
That's right.
We want to get these people off our back.
So...
Well, go ahead and start unloading them.
What's first?
Well, I don't know how much you saw of this, Jim.
Hopefully none.
But we were tagged in a bunch of stuff on Twitter, and then...
I don't look at it anymore.
Well, the Meltzer said what Twitter account?
tweeted out a couple of clips, and they're very interesting,
and a lot of people find them quite humorous.
It is Brian Alvarez with Vinny, his friend and longtime co-host.
Not the one we're thinking of.
Which one are you thinking of?
Well, either McMahon or Schittstein.
Well, no, I said Vinnie, not Vince's.
Well, they used to call Vince McMahon Vinny back in the old days.
That's right.
And I don't trust anybody who was named Vince.
Ben, so Vin Diesel's out of my fucking Christmas card list.
Vin, Vincent, Vincent, Vince, any kind of Vinny, any kind of variation of that.
All right.
Well, the Brian and Vitty show had a review of something from AEW that I'm going to guess
as a program we're unaware of.
And then after we hear some of that and we'll talk about that, also Meltzer said what
tweeted out with this same clip here.
Audio of Brian Alvarez with Dave Meltzer talking about the exact same thing,
which is to something we talked about in part one of the show,
it's revealing about Dave's relationship with Tony Kahn.
So he comes out and talks about their relationship.
Who gave who the ring?
Well, that's not what they talk about here,
but let's get to this audio.
So first, it's Vinnie and Brian and Alvarez has been somewhat
verclimped in the past at Uncle Dave
because he's having a harder and harder time
trying to figure some of his stuff out, and Dave just
actually, well, you just don't get it.
Alvarez is in the unique position now of applying logic
and thought, not just a motion,
to everything with AEW.
The big issue is still that he has friends there.
He has people that he knows and sources, so,
you know, you have to balance what you see versus what people are
fucking feeding you.
But let's go to this from the Brian and Vinny show,
November 10th.
We'll stop this along the way and talk about what they're talking about.
Match wears on.
And every now and then, Bees is like,
ah!
And he puts his head in it.
He's just conflicted.
I'm just like, fuck me, dude.
I hate the storyline.
Because what the fuck do we know about this story?
As TV viewers, okay?
Not people going on social media.
Not people on Twitter.
What the fuck do we know as viewers about this storyline?
Okay?
We know that Roddy wants to recruit the beast.
Okay, we do know that.
We've seen it.
Roddy keeps wanting to recruit the beast.
We know that he calls him Frank.
Frank?
Thankfully, he stopped doing that.
But as television viewers, we have no earthly idea why they keep calling the beast mortos, Frank.
Wait a bit, stop and stop.
Let me stop it here, because we've not seen any of this on dynamite at all.
Well, obviously, it's rampage or collision or something, but the point is,
they're calling
old rigor mortis Frank
would it be like
if you called Abdullah the butcher Larry
Now it said
Brian Albert has said
Brian Albert has said
that they're trying to recruit him which I guess
would mean into the undisputed kingdom
But isn't he a member
of the people that Jake
Yes
Just got from
But they were never with Callis
But then Callis signed him so he could sell him to Jake
That's right
with LFI.
Why are they together?
LFI know.
LFI know.
But let's go back to this audio here.
I know.
Okay.
I know that the Beast Mortos joined LFI.
But Dave tells me,
apparently getting this from Tony Kahn,
that Beast is actually,
he's not a full-fledged member.
He's like a,
he's some fucking,
I'm like,
what the fuck are you talking?
about.
We don't get this.
This doesn't count if Tony told you off air.
Like, we don't know.
He's in LFI, dude.
He's not a junior member.
He's not on fucking probation.
He's a fucking member of LFI.
So, apparently he's conflicted.
So wait a minute,
wait a minute, wait a minute again.
So now Dave is defending the angles
because Tony has explained it to him on the phone
at some point, even though nobody said this
on the actual television program where people would know?
Well, that's the other interesting thing.
If Dave Meltzer and Tony Con were talking,
you think they'd be talking about what's going on with Moxley, MJF, Darby, the Bucks,
Omega, anything with them, not, oh, right, let's talk about the Roddy Strong Beast Mortos thing.
They're, they've gone deep enough in their conversations that it has gotten around
to Roderick Strong and Rigger Mortis.
Well, let's go back to this rigoring.
conversation.
Want to be an LFI?
I mean, he did the fist.
Does he want to be with Rod?
Why would he want to be with Rod?
None of this.
None of this makes any sense whatsoever.
And the guy speaks no English.
So like, how do they agree with me?
It's just stupid.
He speaks Beast.
And, like, Roddy's supposed to be a baby face,
but he's being a dick to the beast.
But then, like, you want,
God, I hate that.
this storyline. So here's the story. Am I missing anything? The story of this specific match,
Eddard. I got one more thing. Okay. So because, this goes back to the match, forget everything
I just talked about, just what we saw on television. So Beast is conflicted throughout the match.
Okay. Well, he's conflicted again at the end, and he gets in it with a jumping knee and pinned.
Well, that's the, uh, the first clip. And apparently this is some of the action we're missing on
either collision or rampage. I'm not certain. Boy, it sounds. It sounds like,
so scintillating, but also now they've got
they've got Alvarez about ready to jump off the fucking cliff.
They've about run him crazy, trying to understand this shit.
By the way, I want to see that match where every time Roddy tries to do anything,
the beast doesn't lock up, he just goes, ah!
All right, well.
And by the way, he did make a good point and hold on and then we'll get to the rest of it,
but he did make a good point that, well, Tavon and Bennett never,
even speak and you'd never see them on the main television show except when they're standing
around with the group and so we don't know but roddy is the most dickish alleged now baby face
that uh along with adam cole who formerly the devil that all four of them want to get on
mjf and just beat to piss out of him four on one what baby faces they are well let's now go to
another baby face dave melzer speaking with brian alvarez on wrestling observer radio the next day
Now, Alvarez got a little adamant about his displeasure with this thing.
Is he going to go full bore on with Dave Meltzer and tell him how he feels about this?
And again, it sounds like this had come up before somehow.
So here is Wrestling Observer Radio from the 11th of November?
So we have another team that is teasing a breakup.
Correct.
Yeah.
Correct.
So wouldn't Ruch and Rousse and Mordos teasing a breakup like later in the show?
Well, yes!
Okay, now listen.
Hold on one second.
Yes!
He was ready to know.
Because as soon as he brought up Mordos, he's like, oh, I'm ready to jump on this shit.
Inferiorated the last time you tried to explain this to me.
Yeah.
Roderick's strong and the beast Mortos.
The beast Mortos is he's just tricking.
He's so sad.
He can't decide what he wants to do.
Roderick Strong says,
Beast, we needed you.
Where were you when we needed you?
And this beast is conflicted?
I'm like, why is this beast conflicted?
He's with LFI.
Why would we care?
Like, why does he want to be with Roderick Strong?
We don't know.
It's never been explained.
They never even explained why he's called Frank.
They just call him Frank.
I'm just watching this thing.
And because of the story...
Well, everyone has a first name.
They just don't use it in wrestling all the time.
Because this story is...
You know, he's a lawyer, too.
God, help me.
You know he's a lawyer, right?
I don't know he's a lawyer, because they never told us that on television.
I'm watching this angle where they presume that I know that he's like,
what did you tell me that Tony said?
He's like, he's not officially in LFI.
He's a...
Like a what?
He's still being recruited by Roderick Strong in the disputed kingdom.
And he was.
He's in LFI.
LFI. They're telling him to forget about this guy.
So anyway, the Beast is so, like, strict.
Let me stop him. He's so fired up here. Let me stop it for a moment.
He's going to hurt himself trying to end.
And what about Dave? Well, his name is Frank.
What the fuck? Everyone has a first name.
Oh.
Go tell that to the Crusher. I mean, sometimes people don't have a first name.
Yeah. Yeah. Did anybody call the Crusher, Reggie? Hey, Reggie.
over here.
What the fuck?
And he's a lawyer.
There's another twist of a beast mortars that we've not picked up on on dynamite,
that apparently he's not just a beast, he's also a beast attorney.
Mayhead, do you think he's a small town, small town buffalo attorney?
Well, let's go back to this, uh, the remaining seconds of this scintillating conversation.
I reckon with remorse or whatever that they have basically a shitty match.
Actually, I thought the match was pretty good.
Bro, by Rotary Strong Beast Morto standards,
they could have a match
500 times better than this.
They could have had a better match.
The whole match is Beasts going,
oh, he can't decide what he wants to do.
I'm like, I know what I want you to do.
Beat this guy's ass, and then he'll make a big comeback.
He was, he was beating his ass.
I mean, he was going pretty hard on him.
You know, which to me made no sense.
It's like, you know, like,
that's animal crew.
He wants to be his group, why you're beating his ass so bad?
Yeah, you want to be on our team,
and then you have a, well,
You don't, you know, let's have a match.
Like, wait, if you were agreeing him, why you wouldn't have a match with him?
I didn't like this match.
Too much, too much rigmarole.
I don't like the match.
We're supposed to be in the middle of something with Roderichs.
Well, that's the end of that there.
Yeah, what a way to get, hey, I'm going to kick the shit out of you until you agree to join our group.
What?
How does this come up in conversation between Dave and Tony?
You know, could it have been about 3 o'clock in a morning?
and they're still anxious to talk more wrestling.
And Dave said, you know, I was trying to explain to Brian Alvarez
about this important angle you're doing with rigor mortis and Roddy Strong.
And Tony took about 45 minutes to fill him in.
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Who?
Dave's maybe contributing ideas to this wonderful program.
Who knows?
Well, he seems to understand it better than the,
not only the general population and all,
all the viewers, but the reporters that are trying to cover it.
So he must have some input in that.
Maybe that's, maybe Dave's book and Rampage.
You know, it's important to note, Rampage of Collision have seen their numbers crater.
We've heard multiple times in the last few months.
I mean, you tell me, I'm wrong, the lowest number in the show's history.
Yeah, I mean, we don't even, because, I mean, why we could, you know, cover Ragtown
championship wrestling in Bay Point, Mississippi, but, you know, we have to stick to the main
things that at least most of the people see, but they're down in the 100-something thousands
in primetime on on poor old TBS or TNT, whichever one, these fucking things are on.
Should MJF reach out to the Beast Mortos?
Well, it seems like everybody else is.
He's the most popular son of a bitch around.
everybody wants him.
Where's Jake?
He got sold a bill of goods, didn't he?
What the hell was that?
What was that?
He got three wrestlers.
He's never been with ever again.
Well, but here's the thing.
We hadn't seen him in what two years on television.
And he shows up as the manager of record of Lance Archer to trade him to Don Callis
in exchange for these three Mexican fellows that,
Don Callis never had anything to do with, right?
And then we've seen the Mexican fellows, but we've never seen Jake again.
Well, we will stay up to date on this story and follow up with any appropriate measures or...
Call some kind of state home for these people.
I think that's the appropriate follow-up.
There's child protective services.
Is there a podcaster protective services that we could call for the way poor Brian Alvarez is being treated over there?
We said it a while back.
He was going to come to the dark side.
He was going to start saying the truth and realizing it, and he has.
A lot of that language sounds familiar.
Did you hear the latest about Kota Abushi?
I saw something on Twitter that people were trying to argue whether he had a staff infection,
a band-aid, or a giant pimple on his shoulder.
Whatever it was, it didn't look like it should be something that someone should have rolling around on a canvas.
Yes.
Unlike WWE, I don't know if the promotion there was going to change the canvas in between every match.
But I have an article here, and a couple people sent this to me.
It's from Tokyo Sports, actually.
Marvelous!
Koda Ibushi in heated battle at Nagayo's 60th birthday festival.
That's Chigasin Nagayo.
It's not strange that his injured,
right leg could end at any time.
Now, this is translated, of course.
Apparently.
There's a few interesting key points.
Partially, this is the partial translation, ladies and gentlemen.
Once again, Kodabushi, who's signed to AEW.
Kodabushi 42, affiliated with the U.S.A.E.W, celebrated the memorial of the charismatic
Chigasinigayo, 59, of the women's professional wrestling group Marvelous.
Marvelous.
You look marvelous.
He participated in Nagayo's 60th birthday festival at Carican Hall to celebrate her 60th.
I just thought it just said she was 59.
Maybe they, well, let me finish.
To celebrate her 60th birthday on the eighth day of this month.
He teamed up with Takumi Iroha and Leo Asaka to face Nagayo, Masato Tanaka, and Titus Alexander.
Wait a minute, hold back up now.
Chikusa Nagayo is a 60-year-old woman wrestler.
Yeah, she started when you started.
And she's in a six-person tag match against three guys with two guys as partners?
Well, one of them, I'm guessing, I don't know who Takumi Iroha is.
Maybe that's the woman on the side with Coda and Leo Isaka.
But after 10 minutes into the match, Ibushi finally faced Nagayo.
And they glared at each other for a while.
Yes, because one is a 60-year-old fucking woman, and the other one has just had both of his feet amputated.
While the two finally approached each other, they put their foreheads together and engaged in back-in-forth shop battle.
After that, Ibushie received a knee kick from Nagayo and was tightened up with,
with an Achilles tendon hold, causing him to writhe in agony.
Still, after 15 minutes,
Abushi hit Titus with a dragon suplex to gain the momentum,
and finally hit Titus with a Kamagoii for the three count.
What was that?
Abushi said this was...
Wait, but the kamagoy, is that a blunt instrument of some kind,
or what hit him with the fucking Billy Club?
Ebushi said that this was her second time competing in a woman's group.
Wait a minute.
I'm guessing.
This was her second...
I get translation.
I'm guessing something is lost here in the translation.
Yeah, apparently, you know, that's the problem.
And people won't admit that the whole Japanese wrestling scene gets lost in the translation over here.
Ibushi said this was her second time competing in a woman's group, the only time being
the stardom Ryugo tournament in April 29, 2013.
where Ayaka made her debut.
When asked why she decided to participate, again, I mean he, the translator,
Ebushi said,
There's a quote.
Oh, no, take it the way you want.
Here's a translated quote.
AEW will be issuing visas again from next year,
but I feel like the Japanese pro wrestling world is somehow declining,
so I want to help lift it up.
That's why I'm doing everything for free.
By having a fucking match with a 60-year-old woman?
That's why I'm doing everything for free this time.
What?
That's the reason, not because Tony's paying you.
Wait, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'll stop here, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nobody can fuck Tony like that, son of a bitch.
Nobody can fuck Tony like this guy.
this guy signed a contract with AW
because he's best friends with
Kenny Olivier
and so Tony signs him up for
at the time it was repose certainly it was a million dollars a year
one million dollars but a lot of fucking money
and
when he's Tony signs the guy he promptly goes out
and breaks or blows out the tendons and ligaments
in or whatever he did a variety of things,
both of his fucking feet.
On someone else's show.
On someone else's show.
On shows in Japan.
And he never actually starts the official work for the official contract that he signed.
And Tony has paid him to go have double ankle surgeries and recuperate or retuperate
or vituperate all this time.
And now he's telling him.
people that he's going to work in Japan for free to help their business over there.
And why not?
Because his sucker in America is sending him more money that he'd make there to begin with.
To do nothing!
Tony Abushi wants to know if you're okay with him working a big retirement show, a big anniversary show.
Oh, who is it?
Tenru retired a few years ago, and Muda's not wrestling.
Chigasana Gayao.
Well, let me go back to the article here, Jim.
He injured his right leg when he faced.
Marifuchi at Noah Ariaki on January 2nd this year.
He was diagnosed with complex damage to the lateral ligaments of the right ankle,
accompanied by a rupture of the right tibiofibular, ligament.
Ligermint!
Ligament!
Although he returned to the ring at Gleet, that's a promotion.
He returned to the ring at Gleet in July.
That's a noise that they make when the refrigerator jacks gives
him the bonsai drop, glee.
Although he returned to the ring at Gleet in July.
I just can't hear that.
He is not yet in perfect condition.
Oh, you think?
Because he's 40-something years old.
42, and just when you think marvelous is the worst name for promotion,
Gleet!
Here's a quote from Mabushi to wrap this up.
My legs are at their limit, and it could end at any time.
Hot!
I wanted to keep going before I can't do it anymore.
So I decided to compete today.
I'm really at the limit,
but I wanted to contribute to the world of professional wrestling
before I end my career.
So I'm currently appearing at various places.
I'm coming to see somebody hit the wall.
My fucking legs could break off and sting up my ass.
at any given point, people, so get your tickets now.
It's a hell of a selling point.
Well, today be the day, his legs fall off.
Find out.
Splaid out, flipping and flopping in a breeze.
That's when you'll know that I,
but no mention of ending his career.
Where are the guys paying him the million dollars?
The best way to get people to forget your legs about to fall off
is have a big gaping wound on your back with all these pictures I've seen.
How the fuck is he wrestling with that?
That's what
Oh god damn
This guy
Maybe the dumbest human being on the planet
Before
Before we started talking about his
goddamn dramatic situation
With his amputated legs
You were talking about the giant carbuncle
That no there's pictures
Still frames of him in this video
Where again some people said
Oh it was a band-aid that was flopping around on his back
But it looked
I've had a lot of band-aids in my life.
I've never seen a band-aid that looked like that.
It looked like some kind of giant.
Imagine a Zit that had reached the proportion of a fucking billiard ball.
Yeah, the next new company over there, pro wrestling, Mercer.
But the thing is, if it was what it looked like, I can't see how that it wouldn't have just popped.
And it was, because I think it would have put somebody's eye out.
or some kind of goddamn tumor or whatever the fuck
but you would have thought that if it was as bad
and here's what I was going to say under normal circumstances
with normal people
you would have thought that if it was as bad as what it looked like
that he would have been all taped up with a variety of that
because they taped their own shoulders up
just to support the muscles
how about to cover up a disgusting, repugnant, gaping,
fucking wound of some description.
That's what I was going to say, but he might not be normal.
What are he laughing at?
Quote of the year is definitely my legs are at their limit and it can end at any time.
Gleet.
You know what?
I've limited days left.
They need to buy that company and book the whole thing to oppose Jay Uso.
Yeet versus glee.
Yeat versus glee.
Yeat, glee, glee, yeet, yeat, yeat, yeat.
They could go ahead and finish.
You know, the idea, I only have so many matches left in me,
so I better go work this six-man match,
a Carican Hall for Gleet against Chigas and Nagayo.
Yes.
It's lucky he wasn't Dump Matsumoto that Mercer pimple would have, uh, ooh.
Oh, uh, but anyway, were we talking about...
You know what? You were talking about the...
You were reviewing Nakamura,
and we talked about him compared to some of the other Japanese wrestlers
that ended up here in America in the last few years with AEW.
and again, Abushi was built up,
looked good in WWE for that cruiserweight tournament
when he was still in shape,
showed up again completely out of shape,
and everything he did looked like shit
after they built him up.
And then every fan of his was like,
oh, well, that was, you know, one-time jitters.
He's never been in a cage before,
whatever the fucking excuses were.
And then every time you saw him after that,
everything he did looked like someone in slow motion,
nothing looked good.
Well, remember when he and Kenny couldn't even hit their double,
backflip, moonsault run to the turnbuckle thing.
I put that backwards, I guess, but who gives a shit?
Where Kitty had already have landed on the guy, and he's still trying to clear the top
rope over on the other side.
And then he went back home to Japan and blew up both of his legs.
Yes.
I mean, it's incredible.
It's just incredible.
Like a guy that did the grasshopper backward knee bend on Twitter a number of years ago.
And now he's being paid to go work small indie.
shows and spread his staff infection wherever he can.
Well,
maybe he'll be on Texas Stadium.
All the best to Chigusa.
I hope you enjoy your retirement.
She probably came back to his late.
What the fuck has happened to the business?
All right.
That means it's time to move on.
So.
Now it's just moving on music.
Moving on.
Moving right along with the, of course,
the theme to the great Brian last.
Jim, let's get some more questions here
before we wrap things up.
Here's a question that was sent via the Culticornev Facebook group from Joe Morris.
Where do all the dead birds go?
Billions upon billions of birds in the world.
Shake a tree and they'll be there.
Look in the sky, likely too.
Where do all the dead birds go?
So, Jim, you're Mr. Nature.
What are your thoughts on this question?
They go, they fall down and go boom.
You've never
What's his name Joe?
Joe has never
Walk along and seen a bird
laying on the ground.
It happens.
Most of the time
they probably drift into
unoccupied areas of
of the world.
But yeah, you can walk around
out in the woods and you'll see a dead bird
every so often.
So it happens.
But then they don't stay there long
because then
you got your turkey buzzer,
and your vultures and your other big birds,
haven't you ever seen, Brian?
Well, you got, every time you see roadkill
up there in New Jersey, there's birds eating on it, right?
Not every time, sometimes.
I mean, usually it's by the side of the road.
That's where you see the dead.
Well, it's fresh bird.
If it's in the middle of the road,
the birds aren't stupid.
That's why the thing got dead
because it was in the middle of the road.
But on the side of the road or out in the fucking yard or whatever,
the big birds are going to come down
and eat the little bird.
the big birds have come down and eat a fucking rabbit oh i found a rabbit last summer part of a rabbit
out in the yard that after it had been somebody's dinner but uh which part it's it well there was
various parts of it but a lot of parts were missing you couldn't really have reassembled anything
but it's it's part of the cycle of life that's what happens
Harley found these moles I've got.
Ever since they started putting a subdivision in across the road from me,
they ran the moles from that 26 acres all over on this side of the road,
and now I've got moles everywhere.
And I'm always tamping down mole runs while I'm walking Harley.
But she found one of them last summer.
Again, it was just with its feet up on its back in a mulch bed,
laying there deader than four o'clock,
deader than Kelsey's nuts
and
I don't know what happened to it but something happened
and then it wasn't there the next day
because something came along and ate it
it's the cycle of life
so in conclusion
Jim where do dead birds go
in bigger live bird's stomachs
or Tidgely raccoons
or minks or coyotes
or things in such of that nature.
Jim, let me get a few more topics and questions here this week.
This was sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com by Les Winslow.
These are the Korean Wrestling Awards.
Now, I'm sorry, what?
Well, specifically the South Korean Pro Wrestling Forum Awards.
I guess there's a forum for the South Korean pro wrestling community.
Well, no, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Now, narrow this down.
Is it a forum for South Korean pro wrestlers or a forum of wrestling fans in South Korea who are watching?
Do they have pro wrestling in South Korea?
What the fuck is going on here?
I'm not sure.
I've attached translator results for both best and worst.
If you're curious how South Korean internet marks think of the current American product.
Okay, well, there we go.
So it's the South Korean fans.
viewing the American product.
Yes, I am curious.
I have the best and worst list.
Do you want the best of everything or the worst of everything?
Give me, let's see what they consider the best.
Best male wrestler Cody Rhodes.
Okay.
It's not shocking.
I'm just, that's not a shocking thing to say.
Best female wrestler, Liv Morgan.
I agree less, but they haven't gone off the beam too far.
Best team of the year.
Solo Sacoa's bloodline
Well, not technically a tag team
It's a group, but you know, okay
Best heel of the year, solo
Sacoa
They're liking the bloodline over there a lot, aren't they?
I don't know if I wouldn't talk about
Drew McIntyre or someone of that nature, but again.
Best baby face, best worker,
and best champion of the year,
Cody Rhodes.
They really like Cody.
Best match of the year,
Roman Rades versus Cody Rhodes.
WrestleMania 40.
Best moment of the year,
Cody Rhodes finishes the story.
Okay, did Dusty ever do a South Korean tour?
Best segment of the year,
Rock and Roman and Cody and Seth
at WrestleMania 40 kickoff.
Okay.
But here's some other ones.
Feud of the year, best few to the year,
CM Punk Drew McIntyre.
Can't argue with that, really.
Best catchphrase of the year.
I believe in Joe Hendry.
Okay, that one came out of fucking sideways,
but, well, I guess there you go.
But maybe do the South Korean fans know more
about American wrestling than the American wrestling fans
that pick Makkah Shaka-Bobbi for the best wrestler?
Well, this is not an outrageous list so far.
Best Newcomer of the Year Jacob Fatu,
best mic worker, CM Punk.
Boom.
Best non-wrestler Paul Levick.
Can Tony Khan get the South Koreans to book his program?
Well, that's, I mean, it keeps going on from there.
Let's go to the worst list.
Besides a little Cody favoritism, you know, you can't argue with a lot of that.
Worst male wrestler John Moxley.
Oh, God damn.
They are more intense.
Then the American fans.
Worst female wrestler Mercedes Monet.
Booh.
What in the world?
Worst tag team of the year, the Young Bucks.
Worst baby face of the year, John Moxley.
Worst heel of the year, John Moxley.
Worst champion of the year, IWGP champion, John Moxley.
Worst worker of the year, John Moxley.
Worst match of the year, Jimmy versus Jay Uso, WrestleMania.
You hated that match, so you can't disagree there.
I hated it, but I wish Moxley had gotten a clean sweep.
Worst moment of the year, John Moxley choking Brian Danielson with a plastic bag.
Worst feud of the year, Brian Danielson versus John Moxley.
Worst catchphrase of the year.
Death Jitsu.
John Moxley.
Worst newcomer, Kazushka Okada.
Worst Mike Worker of the year, Kazushka Okada.
Worst non-wrestler of the year, Tony Kahn, most overrated of the year, John Moxley,
most underrated of the year, Chad Gable, the, I don't know what this means, Christian Awards,
Chad Gable dead from Wyatt's sixth debut, I don't know what that means.
Worst move of the year?
Is it because Christian is always talking about people's fathers being dead?
Oh, maybe.
Something like that, maybe the translator didn't.
Worst move of the year, John Moxley's sleeper hold,
worst gimmick of the year, John Moxley.
Worst news of the year, A.W. releases all-in London security footage.
Worst theme of the year, It's Our Moment, DIY's theme song.
Worst brand of the year, AEW.
Worst event of the year, AEW. Russell Dream 2024.
Featuring John Moxley.
Worst part-time wrestler of the year, Adam Cope, Cope.
Hoopland, worst Booker of the year, Tony Kahn.
Worst main event of the year, Brian Danielson versus John Moxley,
Russell Dream, worst face turn, Adam Cole,
worst heel turn, John Moxley.
Batch of the year, Adam Page sneaks out early
during Jay White versus Christian Cage on Dynamite,
and finally, worst entrance, John Moxley.
John Moxley.
So what are your thoughts on the popularity of John Moxley in South Korea?
John, more importantly, what do you think about your popularity?
I don't have any witty comebacks because I didn't know I was going to sweep the fucking awards.
I'd like to thank Tony.
I'd like to thank Paxongnam.
Oh, my God.
For representing me in Korea.
You know, they have a better handle on the wrestling business than the American fans do, unfortunately, over there in South Korea.
Are these Leo Garibaldi's grandchildren or something?
It does make you wonder about the international thoughts of non-WWE wrestling.
You know, there's a lot of parts of the world where either their first exposure to wrestling
or the first wrestling that looked Major League was WW, and it still is.
If they're watching AEW and then you're watching a spectacle of WW,
again, it shouldn't be a surprise.
they're basically voting the same way, if this is real,
and I have any reason to doubt it,
because apparently other people have sent it too.
They're voting the same way a lot of people here in the States would.
Boy, I'll tell you what,
they love them some Cody and they don't like no Moxley.
Well, there are the South Korean Wrestling Awards for...
Worst lunch, anything John Moxley eats.
They love Cody, they hate Moxley.
Worst illness.
Anything Moxley has.
A bunch of the listeners have sent over several different articles from different places, all centered around.
And they open one of these.
Action Bronson.
I don't know if you remember Action Bronson.
Wait, Action Bronson was one of the celebrities that they had do a match in AEW at one point.
Well, he does hook's theme music.
Okay.
Entrance music, theme music, like he's Batman.
Yeah.
His entrance music.
Well, he's got a hook signal.
That's right.
But he did the hooks in the song.
That's right.
And he was the one, he was bigger than all the boys.
And it handled himself pretty well, from what I remember.
And that was a local show, local.
I mean, it was a New York show and he's a New York guy.
Here's some quotes.
He was on the Ariel Hawani show.
That's usually where trouble starts.
Every time someone's on that show.
Here's the question.
Quote, asked if he wanted another match.
He was dismissive.
And then he said, you know what they do?
They don't call you back.
I never got called back.
There was an angle there.
I'm ready right now.
I'm ready for whoever.
Oh, my God.
Ariel asked him.
No, what he thinks he can come in and be a contender.
Hurry, Ariel asked him if he liked being backsage at AEW.
At first he said yes, and then here's what he said.
Actually, no.
I enjoy the act.
I don't like the...
The backstage is weird over there.
It's just weird.
It was just like everyone's clicky.
You could tell it was weird vibes.
So...
Wow, even the novices can kind of pick up on this shit.
If you have a celebrity, and we've seen this time after time
in just the last few years alone with WWA, if you have a celebrity,
that really wants to be a part of it.
You end up using them.
It kind of works.
They're over.
And they're willing to do more.
And they set up an angle?
You don't call them, you ghost them too?
Well, well, but hold on.
Like they're jelly and a teller?
But hold on here now because this guy also sounds like he's there.
Well, I'll go in there and, you know, I could have a pay-per-view match with so-and-so.
We don't know how he was to deal with.
And I'm not trying to defend by any means the talent management skills and et cetera of the AEW company as a whole over there.
But does this guy sound like, does he realize it was kind of a gift because he's a celebrity?
Or does he think he's ready to be a championship rassler?
I don't know.
But again, bad bunny.
Yeah, but I remember bad buddy being better than bad Bronson.
But we didn't know that.
You know what I mean? That's a case of someone who was a wrestling fan and
WWE embraced it and he ended up really involved for a while there.
I'm sure he'll be back at some point.
But you can tell.
You can not only if you work the guy out just to see where he's at physically,
but attitude-wise and the way he...
But you've got to have a professional organization in place
before you can expect the amateurs to come in and understand what the protocol is.
I have some things here from the Observer website article on this,
but there's no actual quote.
In his lone match in September 2020
as part of Rampage Grand Slam,
it wasn't even on Dynamite.
On Rampage Grand Slam,
he teamed with Hook
against Matt Menard and Angelo Parker.
During the interview at Ariel Hawani,
he intimated,
he wanted to do more in the match,
but that his opponents didn't want to take some of his offense
like a top rope splash.
Oh, okay.
Or a face buster.
Oh, yeah.
Well, hey, come on, bust my face, Bronson.
See, that's what I'm talking about these.
Because it's such a hey, kids, let's put on a show atmosphere.
These people think they can come in, and I'll do this and that because it's all, you know.
And I'm sorry, but a lot of guys, even some of these guys from the Indies don't want a 280-pound fat fuck
that's never wrestled before to jump off the top rope on their fucking body.
Well, Bronson, a big wrestling fan, said he trained for eight weeks.
I'm sure he is.
Said he trained for eight weeks for the match at Arthur Ashe Stadium in Queens, New York, with Taz and Hook.
Okay.
And by the way, guys used to train longer than eight weeks in OVW to get on the show at the flea market.
And this guy trained for eight weeks to be at the Arthur Ashe Stadium on television.
He said he was in the ring for two to three days a week, and he was training on the off days.
MJF even showed up on some days.
He 100% wants to wrestle again,
and that if he gets the call for a big show,
he's there.
How old is this guy?
He also intimated he would wrestle for WWE
and mention fellow musician and occasional
WWE wrestler Bad Bunny as an opponent.
Okay, so maybe this guy's just said to us own angles whole over the place.
That's what I'm saying.
Bunny versus Bronson, book it now, baby.
I don't know. I get gas from all these people.
Did you ever have that happen to you?
You leaned in a little bit to someone who was a local celebrity or just a celebrity or
anyone like that and they got too close, they wouldn't leave?
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Yes.
There was one here in Louisville.
There was an attorney that was the son of an actually well thought of attorney, but the son
was nuts.
But he had a sheriff's deputy or he was some blonde.
enforcement official. I don't want to misquote it now.
That
had kind of, I think,
had some intimate knowledge
of wrestling on a limited basis
and, oh, this guy can sell a bunch
of tickets and we could do this and that
because the lawyer was a mark two
so I put them on a show and they wanted to
the lawyer
wanted to tackle the cop afterwards
and do something. I said, no, you can't do anything to look
like shit. Don't. So
he did it anyway.
And it looked like shit.
he tackled the guy and fell off him and they did some phony ass bullshit when he got back i was screaming
cussing at him and he was standing there slack jawed like i can't believe somebody's talking to me
this way i said you fucking idiot you fucking exposed to the goddamn entire business we said don't do anything
physical what the fuck i said i'm gonna i'm gonna walk over here when i come back don't be here
i'm gonna fucking kill you and i turn around and left i think one of the boys said i think he's serious
And he got mad and fucking left.
But the guy, and the cop wasn't a bargain because he had his own entrance music on a cassette or a CD, whatever the format was then, years ago.
He brought it in and even had a voiceover on the entrance music.
What?
He is here.
He has arrived.
Officer Yancey.
I've kept this.
I kept this CD.
He is the law enforcement officer of the year.
and he served on this thing and he is he is here and he has arrived and god damn it i'm like we sold
250 tickets but fuck anyway that was that was that yeah what was your question i'm sorry he has
arrived got me he has arrived and he is here he did both he arrived and got here uh my question
was about guys who got very close to the business and wouldn't leave well there there you
go there was there was one of them all right well jim let's get another he left after i custody
had the two segments of the night that got the most derision
coming up immediately afterwards one right after the other and i felt bad for the first one
for part of it because what have we been saying about production meetings apparently
they didn't have one for this show or at least they they just they
They went ahead and improvised this next segment.
Tony Chivani was at ringside at the railing with our friend Ash Ableton,
who's been on this program and was more eloquent to say the least here.
Maybe it's because Tony's a rotten interviewer.
But this was one of the most awkward things I've ever seen,
and I don't know why of some of it.
Because they're promoting Queen of the Ring.
bunch of their talent at the premiere in Los Angeles.
I'm sure Tony flew them all to L.A.
Should have flown some to Louisville.
We had more fun.
But they're promoting the movie,
Queen of the Ring in theaters near you folks,
starring Jim Cornett and others.
And so obviously this wasn't like a goddamn,
oh, hey, look, if we didn't know they were here,
let's just grab this interview and it fell apart.
They had to kind of know.
They had to tell Tony you're going to go over,
you're going to interview Ash Ableton and Kelly Bergland and Damaris Lewis.
Give these people some names.
Tony was at ringside.
There's the three of them standing there,
Ash and the two young ladies.
And Tony says, we're here with Ash Ableton,
the director of Queen of the Ring.
And the girls kind of, you know, light up since they're on camera also.
And Tony looks over at them and says,
oh, hey, girls, nice to see you here.
and turned back to Ash like they were marks from the front row.
He didn't know who they were or they were not supposed to be in this.
He didn't know their names.
So then he goes to Ash and Ash is trying to plug the movie,
but clearly he wanted the girls to be able to say something.
And it looked like he may be trying to save that maybe did Tony forget their names?
He just blanked so he didn't introduce them.
So Ash introduces them.
He knows their names, but he fumbles the pitch on asking them a question.
And he's, I'll just take it, girls.
And then, my God, the first thing, the young lady, God, and then these are actresses now.
Take it, girls.
And then she says the worst thing you can say.
Take it, girls.
Oh, she took it all right.
She took it.
DeMaris Lewis, who plays Babs Wingoes, one of the three sisters.
Babs Wingo, Ethel Johnson, and Marva Scott.
I met, oh, my gosh, they were three sisters.
They were the pioneer African-American lady wrestlers.
I just saw the video with Casper.
Yes, and I forget which one of their daughters was there.
It was Marva.
I think it was Marva's daughter.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, Demeris Lewis plays Babs Wingo, but she says,
one thing I've learned about pro wrestlers,
y'all know you're going to win before anybody else does.
So thanks for teaching me that.
Tony Chavale was just frozen.
Also, when Ash said, take it, girls, she had grabbed the microphone.
Tony had to let go of it, but she grabbed it and pulled it in so she could go first.
And you know, you just know that she had rehearsed that and had thought this is such a profound thing to say.
because in her head she's thinking,
y'all are the first ones
that you know you're going to win
before anybody else does
and you go out and you prove it to them.
She's trying to be inspirational, right?
You're the first ones that know you're going to win,
but what she does is just take a goddamn diuretic shit
all over K Fabe on a wrestling program
and the fans on Twitter and everybody else.
And she was proud of that.
She didn't have any idea what she had done.
and then before the main event right before the main event you get on right before the main event
which hey if she hadn't exposed the business then the main event would have the first thing
I learned from the wrestlers is that it's fake thank you you know that that's one of the first
inside insults I learned when I got in the business it was from the boys in the Tennessee
territory they'd go you would go up to a fucking guy you'd say I learned to work by watching you
wrestle. That was a
profound fucking insult. Your shit
was so see-through, right?
He had to be there. But anyway,
then young, young Nell Stewart
spoke. And then
when she finished and she was a bit more pleasant
and non
controversial.
And then
Tony was ignoring them
pretty much as they were talking
and then turned to pitch out. And you could
see Ash hold his hand up and
he said one more thing I want to say
and he just Tony completely pitched out
like get the fuck out of this
and cut out it was the most awkward thing
on everybody's part. Ash talked for an hour
and a half on this program and didn't fumble
anything. He couldn't make it 20 seconds
on this show. These girls
looked like they were interlopers on a live
interview that just wandered out of the crowd
from the way the announcer treated
them. One of them, when they did get to speak, exposed the business on a fucking wrestling program,
and then the announcer cut the poor fucking director of the goddamn movie they're plugging off
and just said, fuck it, we're out of here. And that's the last you saw of any of them.
God damn it. That was an all-timer of a segment right there. Nothing went right.
It should have been a layup. Hey, we got a few actresses in the director. It rings.
side. Let's do something nice to promote this movie.
They've all of a sudden been all over the movie and then they go out there and a girl exposed.
If you'd like, if you'd like to see something similar done with absolutely no conversation or pre-planning
ahead of time or a production meeting, go to official Jim Cornett on YouTube and I'll be with
some of the same people going for several minutes without anybody embarrassing themselves.
You have anything you want to say? Yeah, the first thing I learned is they know who's going to win.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Oh, what was Ash?
Do we need to get Ash back on the show now?
Yeah, yeah.
Ash, what was that other thing you wanted to say?
Yeah, what was it, Ash?
What were you going to tell Shibani?
You're going to say, you're an idiot?
What were you going to say?
It's going to be the biggest cliffhanger since Baby Doll's envelope on Dusty.
It's what did Ash Avilson want to finally figure out to say when you cut him off?
Ab's Wingo says wrestling his face.
If you can't trust Babs Wingo to be on a level, who can you trust?
Oh, what a segment.
Second part of this.
It was, man.
It may be in the running with this open mic night, bitch, kind of.
I don't think it went the way all the people involved thought it was going to go.
Well, so MVP and Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin are still standing in the ring
when suddenly out comes Brian Keith and Big Bill.
And they have earlier in one of the break things,
Jericho has told them they need to prove themselves to him,
some of this business, whatever the fuck.
But now they come out and say, well,
Well, what they were trying to say, what the intention of this segment was to say was that
they were going to try to put themselves over and make a challenge for a tag team title shot
against the Hurt syndicate.
But God damn it, as soon, Brian Keith was the first one to speak.
And as soon as he had made like one declarative statement, MVP just bowled up a giant,
wad of shit in his hand and flung it.
I rate his speed like a fucking major league pitcher right into Brian Key's face.
He just shit all over.
He just referred to him for the first of many times.
This is a little bitch.
And I don't even think he spoke directly.
at him. I think he spoke to his handler, Big Bill, about getting your little bitch back.
And then Big Bill tried to start talking. And everything he said, MVP, again, it was like a,
it was like one of those batting machine things where the guy just stands there with a fucking
bat. And every time one comes at him, he'd bam, and a bam, he would interrupt what they were
trying to say and insult him and sting them.
They couldn't handle his material and then they're trying to go back to the fucking
story and he's like, well, hurry up you two little bitches. I'm going to have my guys come
down there and just slap a shit out of him. Just in
the most dismissive derogatory way possible, he allowed
them to speak long enough to tell him that they wanted a title shot that
Then they walked past them showing absolutely no trepidation whatsoever and said,
go out there and win a match and you can get a title shot.
It, there's a guy, I've never seen a smaller seven foot guy by the time they finished
hacking down at Redwood.
And Brian Keith is a fucking midget anyway.
And they just made him a little fucking mascot.
got.
This was like Richard Pryor cutting down a heckler.
I mean, it was just, every word he got out was like, boom, boom, boom.
And fucking Big Bill looks so good.
I mean, he's obviously taking all the right vitamins.
He looks jacked and big and strong, maybe never look better than he does right now.
And he started with confidence, and then he's like,
blah, blah, blah, nevertheless.
He knew there was nothing you could do.
MVP had a look at his eyes.
I'm going to cut these fucking guys down no matter what, and he did, and it was amazing.
And I can't wait to see this match now, because I really believe that his guys are going to kick the shit out of these two.
He made me believe.
And can.
Yes.
That's the thing.
The suspension of disbelief is back in wrestling business.
I have a feeling at Big Bill and Brian Keith better going along losing streak.
Oh, crap.
Anyway, speaking of a long.
Did Brian Keith walk into the wrong room?
What did Brian Keith?
Brian Keith had...
Oh, yeah, this has to be some type of personal issue.
That this fucking guy has apparently overstepped his boundaries in some fashion
and got verbally bitch slapped back down to fucking...
It was like someone played a practical joke on MVP,
but he wasn't going to go along with it.
He was just going to cut it down.
Like, who are these guys out here?
I don't know. I think somebody was
pulling a practical joke
on Brian Keith and Big Bill.
Send him out there to face
the fucking gunnery.
I wonder what advice Jericho is going to give him
now.
Don't come in here, get him on me.
Don't go on a cruise with him.
Don't get in the elevator.
I know this is your show, but this has been sent to me
by a bunch of the listeners. I'm very curious your
thoughts. Have you seen what Mercedes-Mone is up to?
Thankfully, no, but is it, is she up to another position somewhere where we can get her off
the television? On her official website, this is the link that's been sent to me, let's be
text buddies, it's an image of her, seemingly in the middle of her, a little dance, and it has
some examples here, someone said, hi, Mercedes, is Snoop Dog really your cousin?
When did you talk to him last? And as a response here, he is.
I saw him in New York City
We had dinner and talked fam
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What are you doing today
I'm with my dog trainer
Trying to potty train Bugs Bunny
Mercedes
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Monet Mag seems to be a different thing.
The listeners have been dying to know your thoughts on a wrestler,
or specifically Mercedes-Money,
charging $100 a month to allegedly exchange texts with people, yes.
And by the way, should we do this?
This seems like easy money.
Well, no, because I'm not learning to text for any amount of money.
If it's AI, if we could just get AI Jim and AI Brian the response.
Well, that's what I was about to fucking bring up.
Now, it just pump the brakes.
How'd, since I'm not a texter like the kids are,
I understand it's a big deal to some people.
But how do you know that it's even her?
It's like when I've done cameos,
I can understand that in terms of you know that it's me.
I'm standing there talking to you
and we're talking about people that you have told me about whatever.
I mean, they may be able to AI that now,
but I didn't
when I was doing the cameos
and wouldn't
but how do you know that this is the fucking
what
what do you
I'm looking at the previous covers
the front covers of Monet Mag
hold on me send you this link
I have no idea she has a magazine
she puts out about herself
I had no idea
holy shit how many issues are you
are you sending me
this so that I can
join the club there
or read up on her
and it'll change my mind somehow.
I just need a second person to see this.
I just sent you a link.
It should be there shortly.
Well, to answer my question, though.
There is literally no way you're a texting person.
You know how it works.
There's no way that if it's just,
well, you know how this technology works.
There's no way if it's just text
that you can tell that this is the real person
that you are...
Allegedly
Unless you're writing to.
Even if you're saying,
like, send me a picture yourself.
It could be like one picture
they send to all the fans
who were signing up for $100 a pop
to the text with alleged Mercedes-Money.
I can't get over the fact
she has 40 issues of her magazine.
Written by Mercedes-Money.
Oh, no.
Wouldn't you know who won the pony?
Oh, my God, I had no idea.
Wait a, oh, here it is.
I've got to.
the link of Mercedes.
Oh, Jesus Christ, her name just slides right in.
She thinks a lot of herself, doesn't she?
It seems so.
Monet, no, certainly to God, these are not all magazines
devoted to her that they have produced somehow.
Well, a digital magazine.
I don't think they're printing anything.
I can't imagine they're printing anything.
I know what that's going to be.
Well, who's going to say, is this an entire, I'm afraid to click on it.
Will it cost me anything?
It won't cost you anything, except dignity.
I'm clicked on one of them.
And her, oh, issue 19.
And then there's more pictures with, I guess, these are stories.
What the fuck?
This is just her and her friends standing next to a tree?
What is going on here?
Oh, it doesn't give you the whole.
Goddain. Well, I guess it, hold on.
And she's really figured out how to shake down the fans. I got to give her credit.
It's a picture of her under a tree.
And one paragraph story that she wrote about her experience under the tree.
Oh, well, post-view, 73 people looked at this, so maybe she's not getting...
My assistant and I took an Uber to this amazing five-mile hike.
When we were finished, though, we ended up having to walk another five-mile hike.
to a little motel for help.
We had no cell service
and we're an hour and a half from our hotel.
So these dumb douchebags
hop in somebody else's
fucking car
and get driven to drive
five miles through the woods
or to walk five miles through the woods
and when they get finished though,
they realize, well, we're five miles out in the fucking woods.
And they got to walk another five miles
to find somebody that can help them
get an hour and a half back to their hotel.
Oh, but the housekeeper's son was so nice,
he picked me and my assistant up.
Good fucking job her assistant is doing.
What's she assistant with?
Hey, that poor assistant got dragged on a hike.
You think she wanted to go on that?
And drove us all the way back himself,
saving us the $500 we would have had to pay for a car service.
That's five text messages.
But wait a minute, besides the fact that they just willy-nilly went out in the woods on foot,
$500 away from their goddamn hotel, they get in a car with the housekeeper's son.
Who was that, Anthony Perkins?
That's this little fucking motel.
The fuck.
What is the matter with you?
Norman, Norman, can you take them?
That's the magazine, folks.
There you go.
She has, like I said, certainly figured out how to shake down the fans.
and unfortunately, I'm going to get another one here, only 110 post views.
So she may be producing content, but it doesn't mean it's being consumed by more than 110 people.
I bet you we just got her some attention.
What is this?
Russell Snow Days and Newby Culture from the same issue you did.
My team and I were talking about the recent, my team.
My team.
Why do you have a team?
You don't draw any money.
She's got a team to get her out of the woods.
My team and I were talking about the recent hurricane that hit my home state of Florida.
Besides coming up with a new side hustle of tornado food delivery,
I was really grateful that my home was fine during the recent storm.
This got me thinking about how the weather has affected wrestling shows and traveling to wrestling shows.
I was reminded at the time when I, Bailey, Apollo, and a few others literally got stuck in Colorado
due to a snowstorm.
We had to stay because driving the six hours to the next town was too dangerous,
that was rare, the term the show must go on was probably written for wrestling because I know no other world that lives up to that notion.
What?
That's, that's, that's, how about the world that it came from?
Show business.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, fuck.
What is it?
And how is this woman constantly stranded in some type of wilderness?
Poor pre-planning leads to piss poor performance.
all right well i could honestly say i have never been stranded against my will in an environment i've
been stranded in a hotel due to weather or things but i've never been stranded out in the
goddamn nature against my will just due to poor planning on my part as to where the fuck i was
i was thinking while i was thinking about this brian i was thinking while i was thinking about it
I ever tell you the only time that I as a booker in Smoky Mountain Wrestling or when I was on
the creative committee and happened to see anything in WCW or a ring of honor or OVW,
whatever the fuck, the one time that I can think of that I stopped a match as a booker because
I thought somebody was fucked up and nobody was going to stop it but me.
Do you know, have I told you that or do you remember when that was?
Oh, I don't know. Is this another one of those Russ McCullough stories?
No, Smoggy Man Wrestling.
I brought the Moondogs in.
Larry Latham and, and folks, if you know, to look up the moon dogs is all I can tell you.
Don't stop now. Who was the other guy?
Well, hold on. I'm going to tell you here in a second.
But for the kids who might not have even heard of the moon dogs, look up the moon dogs, 80s,
WWF
but they
basically
were over in the Memphis
territory and in Tennessee from the
83 run
they had with the fabulous ones
all the fucking bloodbass and the wild ass shit
it was Larry Latham and Randy
Colley
Spot and Rex the moon dogs
and then they
you made somebody with it in the WWF
but then
in the early 90s
Larry Latham and a couple different partners
had come back in Memphis
and did a program with Jerry Lawler and Jeff Jarrett
and the wild-ass matches
and the trash cans and the chairs and the men,
it revitalized their business
because somewhat not for the standard of the time
they were doing well.
But it was like bringing...
It was pre-E-CW actually when you think about it
because that Memphis, those tapes were going around
and the Moondog stuff with Richard E. Lee
and just a variety of moon dogs and it was wild stuff.
Two befores and whatever.
But it was like bringing the sheik in,
but the sheik was too old.
So now we've got another gimmick.
It was the gimmick.
And they were the ones doing it.
And the baby faces only had to do it when they worked with the moon dogs.
And that was part of the deal.
And it got attention.
And you couldn't do it too long.
But anyway, so the point is, 83 at Memphis,
draw money with the fabs.
They go to the WWF, the name gets out of blah, blah, blah.
But Larry Latham was from, God damn,
somewhere in Arkansas near, like West Memphis
or somewhere in Arkansas near Memphis.
And he lived there.
And they had had the early 90s run, as I said with Lawler and Jeff,
was in 93.
I think he called me.
I don't remember calling him, but he was pitching the idea of the Moondogs.
I said, Larry, you got a partner?
He said, well, his kid, I can't remember.
what this kid's name was.
I broke this kid in.
He can do the gimmick.
I said, well, I think I said, I can give you all, you know,
$300 a shot for the team, which now that's, you know,
like $900,000 or $1,000 today.
But he said, I says, that's this space 150 each.
He said, well, now you just give me the $300 and I'll take care of him.
It's okay.
So I bring him in to have a program with the Rock and Roll Explore Explore.
classic monsters against my baby faces and then had the moon dogs against Ron and Don Harris,
the Bruce brothers, because now you got the baby face monsters against the heel monsters.
And, you know, and then it was time for them to go.
But when I first brought him into television, point I'm going to make, their deal is they
jumped the job guys and they beat the shit out of them and they hit him with chairs and they
I'm blowing the whistle.
I'm their manager.
And, you know, everybody's seen that drill that's seen the moon dogs.
And I booked them against guys that they could just beat up.
And, you know, you're working with the moon dogs.
So it's kind of like in the 80s, working with Road Warriors.
You know what's going to happen.
But there had been this one guy in Morristown, Tennessee,
that every time of this convenience store that was on the way out of town
when we went to the Kentucky towns,
he'd been working outlaw and,
wanted to get booked. Every time I saw him, he wanted to get booked. And finally, I called him,
I said, well, work with the moon dogs on TV. Okay. So I figure at least this will discourage
him, if nothing else. But they're having to match him. Brian Hill, Brad, Mark Curtis is the
referee. It's the TV match. One of their, I can't remember if it was the first one they'd done or one
the first ones. And I think Brian's trying to control the shit in the ring. And Larry's got this guy
out on the floor of the high school gym that we're shooting a TV in.
And Larry Latham picks up a steel chair just the same kind that you get at Home Depot,
no padding, no nothing.
And this guy was on his knees in front of him,
and he just raised it up and hit him as hard over the fucking head as I've ever seen.
I don't even know how to explain to you the sound or the force or the way it looked
or just the guy crumpled.
And I said, well, shit, he's killed him.
And I'm waving at Brian.
I said, ring the bell.
And Brian turns around.
He says, Brian says, so, well, I said, ring the bells.
Just stop it.
Just stop it.
He's dead.
He's killed him out.
I told him.
Because Brian, I think, was still trying not to see all the chairs and shit.
So we wouldn't decue it or whatever.
And he just could bring the bell.
and then they still,
the boondogs are still beating these guys up.
I don't think that first guy was up yet.
But they want to do more shit and I'm blowing the whistle for real.
It's over.
We're out of time.
We've got to go.
We're in break.
And I finally try to get them to settle down.
And because I'm sure I've seen this fucking guy has got brained.
We're going to have called ambulance here in a minute.
And I can't remember.
I said, maybe he had to go to the desk and do a promo first.
right or whatever but as soon as we got back in the fucking locker room i went to i said where's
that fucking guy and there he was and he came up to me he said did i do okay mr cordet you think
you could use me again next month have a god damn i never want to see you again oh why are you
to blame him.
No, I said, get out of the business.
Consider yourself lucky. No, there was no way he was ever going to
make any money in a wrestling business and, and, you know,
Jesus Christ.
But I stopped the match that I was in as Booker because I thought,
well, no, that's too much.
We can't believe we've gone too far, damn it.
And I just, I don't know.
sure I'll finally give you a shot
against a moon doll
what did you think was going to happen
well now there's a line
that needs to be cross
I thought he'd get
I thought he'd get a good
indoctrination into job guy
and I didn't know he was going to get
fucking brain damage now it was hard to tell
from before or after
with this fellow
if he suffered any
ill effects in that department
but I didn't want to fucking hasten his goddamn
decline
but no and then and this see this will remember this was years before ECW ECW also so when I saw the chair shots at poor old boo Bradley balls Mahoney was taken and then you know but anyway that's what I'm saying is sometimes you got to I'll tell you another one now that I've just thought of it to be honest with you did I tell you what I called an ambulance on somebody
In the middle of a match?
As Booker, yes.
No, I don't know.
I hate to laugh because I don't know where it's going to go,
but no, I don't know this story.
I was in the goddamn match again.
But I was also the Booker and spoke about wrestling.
We had, I think it was one of the fire on the mountains
in Johnson City, Tennessee at Freedom Hall.
And it was the 10-man rage in the cage
where it was Bullet Bob Armstrong,
the Rock and Roll Express,
and two of Bob's sons,
which I'm thinking were Scott and Steve.
And it was my guys, the bodies were in it.
I'm trying to think who else my heels were and me, right?
And you go in, war games rules where you go in one at a time from each team
and finally you're all in and the blah, blah, blah.
And of course, I'm going to be the last one in because I'm scared.
But anyway, what I didn't know until we had the match laid out,
And the match was going perfectly according to to Hoyle.
But what I didn't know, because I was doing promos or whatever earlier in the day,
it didn't just sit there and stare at everybody's conversation.
But Riggie Morton and one of the Armstrong boys out of Scott or Steve were having a debate
on, because they were both going to get juice in the cage match, right?
But they were having a debate on the best method of the blading process.
and one of them was favoring once across lightly.
That was the Armstrong,
while Ricky Morton was favoring to stick it in and turn.
And I don't know if they actually got goddamn,
you know, heated over it or whatever.
But the matches going along and all of a sudden, boom.
You know, Armstrong has got his juice and there's, you know,
things are going on, just fine.
And boom, Ricky gets his and goddamn.
Ricky Morton starts fucking bleeding.
Like Tommy Rich after a three-day bender in the Omni or something.
And I'm like, fuck.
And as the matches going on, you know, they've got Ricky down and he sells,
he sells like Ricky Morton.
Have you ever heard that, Brian, that Riggie Morton sells like Riggie Morton?
I've not heard that, no.
So you don't know whether he's fucking dying or not to begin with,
even if he's not looking like he's ready to pass out from blood loss.
And finally, and Sandy Scott,
I'm still at ringside, right?
You know, maybe one of the other heels waiting to go in.
Sandy Scott comes up behind me and says, is he all right?
I'm not sure.
Why don't you call an ambulance just in case?
It's like we're having this conference while all the people are screaming
as cage matches going on.
So Sandy goes back in the back and uses one of the pay phones,
call a fucking ambulance.
So there's a man losing blood.
I can't say.
Yeah, what did he say?
Well, he can't.
He can't say because, you know, the thing is,
number one, if it's not needed, we don't want to have to pay for it.
But also, he can't say one of the wrestlers in the match is bleeding too badly,
but it hadn't been stopped or whatever.
He just says, there's one.
of the wrestlers is losing blood.
He hangs up.
Did he call 911?
Well, he called whoever you called an ambulance in Johnson City, Tennessee in 1990.
On a pay phone?
Yeah, 911 emergency is a wrestler losing blood.
Wrestler and Freedom Hall's losing blood.
We need an ambulance.
So then he walks back past me and he nods like I've called him, right?
And Riggies hanging over the ropes.
me he's goddamn drenched it looks like somebody's turned a buggined a red paint over his head and finally
my time is coming i get in there and obviously i'm trying to stay away from bullet bob but in some way or
another the situation is not dire for me now where i can go over and get on top of ricky morton and
get on him go are you all right he's yeah i'm fine jimmy he's to get on me i'm what's the for you
goddamn going to bleed out. No, it's okay.
So then I start beating on him.
And then we finish the match. Obviously, they beat me in some fashion in the end.
And then we get to the back one. Now the back of the fucking ambulance is pulling up.
And of course, Ricky's selling in the locker room on the way to the locker room.
And as he gets into locker room, he's looking at the ambulance over there.
So he's kind of covered his head up.
and the towel we've got for his blood.
But the ambulance people come in and there's Sandy and they say,
where's the emergency?
Oh, what do you?
Somebody call you guys?
Well, they, one of the fans must have called.
They see one of the wrestlers was bleeding, but he's all right.
They must have called you guys from a pay phone or something.
So we didn't have to pay for the ambulance.
But it looked, for a minute, it looked like it might be never.
necessary, so we wanted to have the option.
Was that too
compassionate a booker, a matchmaker?
I don't know. I don't know about that.
I don't know anyone's ever talked about your compassion
as a booker or a matchmaker.
Well, see, more people up to then.
Anyhow.
Was this, were we talking about, were we talking about, were we talking about?
I don't know. We originally kind of went from there,
but just dangerous stuff and stuff
it shouldn't be too dangerous
and when do you
when do the people in charge
have a responsibility
to not let people
fucking do stupid shit
that is not worth the goddamn risk
or just set up a pattern
of doing stupid shit
so that that becomes the norm
and then the next people have to do stupid or shit
to get the same reaction
and then that's where
where we are at today after all of this.
Yeah, now you know not to really react unless the referee looks really concerned.
Unless the referee drops down quick to get in the other person's face and go, are you alive?
Oh, yeah.
And then, you know, well, but at the same time, a lot of this shit fools the referees.
Then they're going to start doing that every time, too.
Then they'll drop down to say, are you alive?
Is anyone alive out there?
We'll talk more about the blooper reel when we get to the modern...
Well, let's see about what state we're in right now. Jim, there is a lot going on. We have a lot to get to. We have some reviews. We have the roster review, which a lot of people have been waiting for. Lots of other things happening. Why don't we start with something that's a bit, what the hell's going on with this? We talked last week about Rick Flair, and the news that he had launched or was behind the company or aligned with a company called Rick Flair Spirits, of all things.
with a line of Rick Flair
liquor drinks, liquor drinks,
Rick Flair, uh,
liquors,
Rick Flair.
It sounds like you've had some.
Have you had some of the Rick Flair liquor drinks, Brian?
Everything from Flair Bourbon to Wooskey.
Right when we talked about that,
there were a lot of people getting in touch about a tweet.
Jim Ross has been on social media from at least what I've seen.
and I don't follow him or anything, just a few times it's been retweeted
over the last few weeks talking about his medical issues
and he went in for surgery, he came out of surgery.
Yes, and he just actually, I think right before we're going on the air,
has tweeted that he's home from the hospital and, you know, starting his recovery there.
But yeah, we've mentioned a few weeks ago when he made the public statement
that he was being treated for cancer, everybody's up on that.
And Jim Ross has a lot of fans.
So naturally, his fans would want to know what's going on with him,
especially if it's something as serious as this.
Well, in the midst of that, Rick Flair tweeted out,
Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention.
Focused on your recovery.
And then he tagged him in it,
and a lot of people took that as
what the hell is Rick Flair doing?
Why would he do this?
Was there a smiley face?
No, I don't think Rick Flair uses emojis, or at least not here.
Any type of little semicolon, right parenthesis?
Other than him tagging him at the end to make sure he saw it, no.
I heard that.
I didn't hear it.
It wasn't spoken.
I saw that
and I was trying to figure out
if it was
it was it in response to some
specific statement
or event or
remark that
someone is made was it in response to
something that someone had said
or that an announcement that had been made
that people were supposed to know
what the fuck he was talking about
if he then as we will find out here in second
claim that it was taken out of context
what was the context you just blurted something out
out in the wild right
and nobody if they did misunderstand it
from what you meant it to be Rick
why not because we know what you were fucking talking about
how did you take it
Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention
focus on your recovery
that's right because people
started retweeting it
with the goddamn like Jesus guy
and I'm like what the fuck
and I'm thinking
from Jim Ross's goddamn
hospital gurney
did he give some kind of interview
where he said something about Rick
that bam
and I'm like then
since that apparently is not
the case
I'm wondering if
if Flair just saw something
at some point in time
and assumed that if he responded to it
that at that moment
that everybody would know exactly
what he was fucking talking about
but it just
it was the oddest fucking thing
I think
did they have problems?
I don't know what to fucking thing
when you were with them and again
they worked together after that too
but when you were with them let's say in
88, 89, 90
did they have problems?
Did they work well together?
What did
the only problem that they had,
and I've said this many times,
was that Flair viewed J.R.
as being more on Jim Hurd's side
because J.R. had to coexist in the office
with the fucking raccoon-headed asshole
and was more...
tried to be more amenable or professional
or acquiesced or whatever to him
than Flair who just wanted to say,
fuck you.
jump out the window and a me too.
But it was not like that either one of them
personally had a issue with each other, whatever.
And as I said, I don't know what I don't know what's going on
with anybody the last number of years.
I'm over here.
I try to stay away from these things.
But that's what Flair put out a follow-up tweet
that said that he was in some way
misunderstood or misrepresented or misrepresented or whatever and if you read that let's try to figure out
how the fuck that that is a thing that could be and actually there's two things here i have the
tweet which i believe you're referencing i also have a statement that he issued after that so let's go
to here here's the tweet if you can't take a joke from a 76 year old man then you are living
life too seriously it was all harmless wait a wait a minute should you
should you also mention that you're saying that because every word is capitalized?
Yeah, that's the rule.
If it's capitalized, we yell it.
That's the Russo rule when it comes to reading documents.
Yes.
Then you are a living life too seriously.
It was all harmless, lighthearted fun.
Just trying to make people laugh and smile.
What the,
all those Jim Ross haters.
He's trying to make laugh and smile.
Hey, I heard Jim Ross had, uh,
surgery for cancer. You know what? Let me go make a joke. You're seeking attention again.
I got to be honest, Rick used to be a bit better of a comedian. I don't, how was that
a joke that, see, that's what I'm thinking is, does Rick think that he's sending out the meaning
that he thinks it his head telepathically along with these tweets so people would understand it
when that way i was like god damn is seeking attention for his cancer how did it get cancer seeking
attention again well we have another statement here i won't yell this one i just made it clear
to the world in an article coming out on sports illustrated by justin barasso that jim ross was
my Mount Rushmore, along with Gordon Solie, Gene Okerland, and Jerry Lawler.
That's an interesting Mount Rushmore there.
That is an interesting choice of announcers when you're...
Well, he's covering the spectrum.
That's high praise, because it was very difficult for me to leave out Tony Chivani.
Oh, Jesus.
But Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler were the greatest tandem ever.
nobody should be upset because two people have a difference in opinion.
It happens in life.
I lost the son.
He lost a beautiful wife.
We have a lot in common.
We were both considered the best at what we do.
Let's leave it alone at that.
And all the haters can focus on someone else now.
Well, wait a minute.
I think it was alone until you brought it up.
But besides that...
Ignore the fire.
I started the fire.
What is the, what was the difference of opinion?
He said everybody has a difference of opinion.
What, he was for cancer and JR is against it?
He said he had cancer.
I said that he's looking for attention.
He said, no, I have cancer.
Woo!
It's a difference of opinion.
What is the difference of opinion?
You need a second opinion?
You're seeking attention.
I tell you, I went to the doctor.
The doctor said, I think you're ugly.
I said, I'd like a second opinion.
Okay, you're stupid, too.
How you doing, Jim?
Do you have a good support system?
Well, the greatest of all time just told me I'm seeking attention.
Do you think Rick should send them a case of whiskey or something to ease the pain?
I don't know.
Well, maybe Rick, the next business, he'll get to the next business.
into is an organ transplant
service called Woo Organs.
Because, you know, if you
partake in all the rest of the
Wu brand items,
you're going to need your liver replaced,
your kidneys replaced, your pancreas,
your uvula.
All those things are going to need to come out and have
somebody else's come in.
So start now, and that way they can start
harvesting the organs for the next
generation of the
Woo Soomers.
Woo Sumers.
You can just see Jim Ross's face
like looking at his phone like,
hey, let me scroll.
What the fuck?
You know, what the fuck?
All right.
Well, that's the,
I don't know what we call it,
the Rick Flair, Jim Ross feud update.
It's just a difference of opinion.
All the haters can focus on something else.
It was a joke.
It's just you and me and we just disagree.
Doon, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,
speaking, Brian, of infotainment,
what we examined on the previous show we did,
what in the world that poor old Rick Flair may have been talking about
when he put his foot in his mouth with a tweet to Jim Ross
and trying to analyze what could have brought some statement like that on or what the fuck was going on.
And we weren't very successful in trying to figure out why he did it.
But then he had already kind of apologized for it.
But now you told me before we went on the air, he said something else,
and I hadn't had time to read up on this.
Yeah, this is a brief update just to finish the story that we told on the last.
show, a bunch of the listeners were sending this over.
Rick Flair on Twitter, June 4th, 2020.
I try to be nice to everybody.
God only knows that I've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people
having a lifetime.
What the, I try to be...
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
If he was being nice to everybody, wouldn't he give that money to like hungry children?
Or, I mean, how does that one thing go with the other?
sure, but it started from the beginning. I didn't mean to interrupt, but I just...
I try to be nice to everybody. God only knows that I've spent more money on spilt
liquor in one year than people have in a lifetime. I tried being nice, and this is my last
message to everyone. I've got more money than I've got time. Go F yourself, haters. No comment
needed. Live with it.
Actually learn to love it.
Get back to me again when you make
$3 million a year at the age of 76.
That's what
famous gets.
Famous all in caps.
And by the way, I don't recognize
anyone in this conversation
who is famous.
So Rick Flair apparently closing the book
on this whole discussion of his behavior.
A clear
and concise
Declaration to the people that he had a contradictory opinion with there.
I tried to be nice to you, but I make more money than you.
What?
Or then I spill more liquor than you.
I spilled more liquor.
That's right.
But he spilled more.
Now, he made more money to spend more.
No, he spent more money on the liquor that he spilled than they made or that they spent
on the liquor they spilled.
God only knows that I've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people have in a lifetime.
Okay, so now, wait a minute.
Now that's what it is.
Taking that as the grammatically correct statement, how much money do you think you've spent in your lifetime on spilled liquor, Brian?
Oh, I spilled for free.
Oh, God damn it.
I've just, just as, how much do you think every son of a bitch?
You know, to be very honest with you, uh, how often do you spill liquor?
Yeah, that's the question.
I don't really have too many occasions where I just spilled drink.
Oops, there goes my drink.
Maybe every now and I'm like, maybe every now and then a little drop comes out because, you know, you're walking with a drink.
But it's never like, oh, I spilled another one.
Let me get another.
Oh, I dropped another one.
All over the rug.
You, you slosh, or you slosh.
It wasn't me.
It was the Egyptian.
If you're walking back and forth in the bar, restaurant, nightclub, whatever, you may be a slosh.
Every once in a while, there's a Joshel, a Josh, or a joust, or a fucking elbow in the ribs and you spill or whatever.
But I don't think that's a big...
Well, let's do the math.
It's like that for the average person, a lifetime of spill liquor could be $72.48.
If that much, I guess let's do the math.
If you buy 20 kamikazis, and what were the 1986 prices for kamikazis?
Well, let's just use around $5.
$5 a kamikaze.
You buy $20.
Well, there's $100.
There's $100.
How much spillage is going to happen from that?
A dollar's worth?
Well, what if you're carrying the tray and you're drunk and you spill the whole thing,
then that could add up.
Ah!
You have to think of that.
spillage. I'm thinking of drinking a time. I'm thinking drinking a time. I'm thinking drinking a time.
I'm going to drink in a time. Oh, I got 20. Oh, shit.
Do you have to charge me? Yeah, we have to charge you. We just gave you all those. He spilled
them everywhere. I'm just, I just don't know that, again, I love Rick. I'm not sure that
it's a compelling argument when you have to put your tax return up on the fucking post as part of the
argument in defense of something that you said.
Well, you know, I'm just glad that unlike Jim Ross, Rick Flair, doesn't look for attention.
Unlike that dastardly Jim Ross, always looking for attention with his cancer.
I hate JR the way he goes out dressed like Christmas packages all wrapped up and
that horrible fashion sense he's got and all of the JR branded products like wings and
weed and whiskey and antidepressants. I don't know what's going on.
I saw Jim Ross with an IV.
He'll do anything for sympathy.
Woo!
He looked at me as I walked by like he expected me to help him up.
He tripped on the liquor that was spilled.
And now somebody's going to use as the headline,
Jim Ross injured to spill slipping and Rick, Rick Flair denies intervention.
That's what he should open next.
The Rick Flares slip and slide.
And it's fucking
kamikaze's being
shot down the water slats.
If you go down
belly first or feet first and on your belly,
you can drink at the same time.
Nothing said you for a ride like whiskey.
Woo!
All righty then. Well, we wish all parties the best
in this situation.
And Rick is basically
he said this will be his final word on a subject
unless he forgets that this is
he said this.
When you make,
he might say something else.
When you make three million dollars a year
at the age of 76,
that's what famous gets.
I thought it was 3.6.
He said 3 million a year at the age of 76.
Oh, at the age of 7th.
I thought it was 3.6 at the age of 70.
I wanted to get this correct.
You know, we got to get these facts
and figures correct, Brian.
You know who's looking at this one? It's very important.
The IRS is probably looking at this tweet right.
But yes, it's very important.
And of course, and that's a gross now.
Before expensive.
Well, Brian, before we go any further with the program,
I'm having something is coming across the news desk here.
Over at the castle, this is from a fellow,
a fellow named Ralph Jackson on Twitter has sent me,
do you have your Antonio andoki keychain there with you
that you're trying to play the music?
because he has given us some information on these models of these collectibles and how that they might be operated.
Oh, that's the beginning of the itchy knee sanda chant.
And then, of course, the famous tagada.
And I've seen some of these people with their guesses.
None of them have gotten to say, hold it down.
Here's me holding it down.
No.
No.
They say there's a button or a pressure point somewhere.
There's no pressure point or no button.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
I've got an expert here.
It's trying to tell you,
you're just all fucking head up over nothing.
It's got a impact activation.
Since it's themed around a wrestler,
it might have a motion or impact sensor.
You try slapping or tapping the face head area
moderately hard,
like Inoki's famous fighting spirit slaps.
Okay, I'm a slap.
But not too aggressively to avoid damage.
I'm slapping a shit out of this.
thing he's
nah ha no that was a scream
it almost sounds like I get him again he'll scream
again he'll scream again he'll squeal like a bitch
slap him
slap him in a face
it was just a scream there did you hear that
yeah no nothing
it just hit him kick him kick it
kick it kick it some more
now I will say users
report this works on some versions
but it could drain batteries
faster if overused
Now, there's also some other options here now.
Oh, yeah.
Because the toy could be defective, which is a common issue with these
Ewaya produced items, as many eBay and collector listings note non-working
sound, even in new condition.
You might need to contact a toy repair specialist or look for replacement parts online.
Again, let me just jump in.
real quick. I, when I got this, I got three of them. There's three different ones. I said, I'm
opening one of them because I want to hear it. And of course, the batteries were dead and didn't do
anything. I replaced the batteries. I fixed the corroded areas because parts of it had been
corroded. It's from 1998. Yes. And the music plays, it's just one every, I've heard it at least six
times, but just not now. Never on the air. No. You hear these songs play, but no one else can hear
them is what you're saying.
Pressure point. If I push from his head,
what's that? I'm pushing it so hard
as legs are bending. Wait a minute now. Hold on. Here's another one.
Try holding it for two to three seconds
to trigger the song.
One, two,
three, four.
See, fuck it, goddamn. Now I'm debating should I open one of the other ones?
I was going to keep the other two closed. Do I need
to open one of the other ones.
Fix them out.
Oh, yeah, because they're Faberger eggs,
and if you open it,
it'll ruin your children's retirement.
I mean, I didn't think
these anoki things are going to be worth a lot of money.
I just figured why open it,
if I already have one open in a white robe?
Because the one you got open done work.
Now you just,
I didn't know you had three of them.
Now you're just wasting all our times.
Me and Ralph Jackson over here.
Do I give up on this one and open another one?
Is that what you're suggesting?
I think you ought to throw that one out to fucking window.
Well, that's not going to have.
Let the lawnmowers run over it.
That'll teach him.
You've already slapped the shit out of it.
Now, listen, the bottom thing that you push, it's the base of the bottom of this.
And it feels like you could kind of like shift it up or down or left or right or press in the middle.
But everything does the same thing.
I'm not telling you what to do with Antonio Anoki's bottom.
You can shove it or twist it or knead it or slap it or do whatever you need to do.
All right, well, this is a great segment.
The mystery continues.
I was just trying to give you, I didn't mean for you to just go completely insane there.
I just was trying to give you some information here.
He might have been able to use in some reasonable fashion.
Can we?
I sounded like it just jumped off the bridge there.
Every few times, it just screams now.
That's a new one.
Well, it's because it's.
All right, cool you get away from tiger da.
And later,
on it's going to say, my name is
Antonio Anoki and I'm going to kill you.
Trying to mellow out here.
Well, why don't we talk about the mellow tones?
Oh, would you stop it now?
For heaven's sake, would you stop?
Speaking of chucking things,
did you chuck the broken,
the discombobulated
Antonio Inoki keychain
that we have been plagued with
for the past,
the other day it stopped working
when you began slapping it
about the head and face,
trying to make it play that song.
Which you told me to do,
so you should buy me a new one.
Well, I was reading the copy
from, what was the name?
Ralph, Ralph said to do it.
He said he was an expert.
I don't know about these things.
I'm a simple man.
I'm not a judge.
Keychain expert.
Yeah, it broke.
It broke.
He broke it.
I broke it.
Well, you told me to slap it, and now, if I push this, nothing happens.
For those of you following on Instagram and Twitter, I posted some photos.
I have two more, ready to go.
And I said, I'm going to have to do that.
We're getting a song on the air one way or the other.
So everyone said, open the one on the left, because the one on the right looks so good you don't want to open that package.
So I did that.
I opened the one on the left.
It's Antonio Anoki in a red robe, black tights, blue towel.
I cleaned the corroded battery port
put the batteries in, closed it,
does nothing.
However, there's a weird thing
where if I move the three little batteries around
before it was...
You hear that?
There's something there. There's some life.
There's go to the batteries.
I got to try this again in a minute.
But there's something there.
We have found signs of life,
ladies and gentlemen,
and they aren't just any life.
They're the life of Inoki.
So we're going to do what we can.
See?
There's something.
It's still just yelling Taiga-da.
There's still no music.
But there's something happening.
It gives me hope that...
It's doing the same thing the first one did.
I'm going to have to open the third one.
As nice as that package looks.
I guess that's the point.
The pressure, the pure pressure, the solution.
Is there some way you can steam it
open or something so they're you know if anyone out there's a japanese engineer who wants to work on
the back end of one of these and take them apart and reconfigure it this fucking thing this fucking
but look here you blamed me now here's what i was doing and for the people who didn't
hear this particular exchange one worked and you told me to beat it up that was great i was
i was reading i was reading information that was sent in by a guy who apparently knew a lot about
this stuff. As I said, I think his name was
Ralph, and I was reading it to you. Now,
if some Yehu
named Ralph wrote
in to say, well, the best way to treat
your fucking broken
leg is to cut it off at the hip,
would you be sawing on it?
Why are you?
There you go. And by the way, Ralph,
good job writing a letter in. Now this guy's throwing you
under the bus. How do you like that?
Come on.
Everybody that contributes
here to the program is open to some
form of abuse.
Man, this stupid.
The way, I had one that worked, and that's the one that's not working, but I know it could
work, so it has to be a way to get it to work.
And then this one, I have to literally play with the batteries while they're in here to get
it to do.
Come on, Tiger Da!
You know, if anybody would just clip about the last 30 seconds of Brian's conversation,
I believe that would top the Captain Quig's statement in fucking the cane mutiny.
Anyway, Baba was better.
What was giant Baba famous for saying?
Give me that cigar.
Talk to my wife.
Seriously.
Can you think of any time that you've really seen Baba?
I mean, yes, he's spoken words in the ring,
but like making a public statement or having a catchphrase
or just really making a spectacle of himself in any fashion.
while Adoki was out there screaming, look at me.
Well, there are compilations of like commercials,
like Giant Baba appearing in various commercials,
and it's kind of like Shaquille O'Neal and that like,
here's this giant star, and he looks great,
but then you hear his voice like,
oh, lo, lo, lo, like you can't even understand it.
I don't understand Japanese,
but even if you did, it sounds like he'd be difficult to understand.
Yes, it's...
The giant Baba.
One of those things where it would be,
it's not a, it's not a linguistic thing.
It's more of a fucking sonic thing.
you know, all right, well, we wish you the best with your keychain, Brian.
Keep us up to date on that.
I'm going to open the other one, and I'll let you know.
This one is, there has to be a way to get this.
It's like the first battery has to be, like, slightly.
Oh.
That's number two.
Let's see if we get the third one.
Come on.
All right, this is your show.
I'm going to mute myself for a moment.
Fucking Titan on.
Well, now wait a now.
Ladies and gentlemen, I can tell you right now that he's taking himself off the air
because now he is so obsessed with trying to stick those batteries in and just the right place
that he's just complete.
He might have walked out of the room.
He might be going to where there's more, more sunlight.
I put it down.
Luckily, I have one that already died because I slapped it, so I feel free slapping that one now.
But I got to remember it hurts my hand every time I do this shit.
Fuck about back to you.
This has been a great show.
Yes, back to you.
Let's try this again.
Nope, it's just the itchy D sound.
So this is, I can't stop it either.
This is, unless I rip the batteries out,
this is the one where I had to put the batteries in
and play with them.
I've got it now.
That just goes on.
Well, I've got it now so the batteries are in here.
And if I press it,
I'll never forget where I was.
Ladies and gentlemen, mark it down.
You have been witnesses.
Wow.
to history, it has happened.
I didn't even have to open the third one.
What a moment. Let's see if it happens again.
But it is possible. You have been vindicated.
Wow.
You're like, well, these people, they've fucking freed you from prison after 20 years because of DNA evidence.
You were right all along and nobody believed you.
And you see, the other thing is they play like the catchiest, most funky part of the song.
so you hear that, you're like, I want to hear more of this, and then it's Taggata.
And then it never happens again.
The other version is just, you know, there's like a chant.
I don't know if you ever heard the record version of the song.
It's like, Inoki, Bombayé, which is always found amazing.
Like, he wrestled Ali, and he's like, I'm stealing the catchphrase from Zaire.
Like, how the fuck did that happen?
Ali, Bumbaier, watch this.
I'll have a song.
In no key, Bumbaier.
Well, there it is.
The Inoki Keychain is finally.
But there was the music by.
who is that music by?
Who would have orchestrated that?
Oh, there we go.
Can I stop it?
I'm pressing the thing.
They used to stop it if I pressed it a second time.
No, this one would go right through it.
And then, and then Taiga da.
And then, oh.
You see, there's no rhyme or reason to when the song plays.
I just want to hear the song again.
I know it can happen.
Why don't you work on that later on tonight after dark?
And we're done with this program.
Oh, good Lord, now it'll never stop.
It's like perfectly 70s.
It is a cute little ditty.
All right.
Well, I don't know if I'd use those words, but there it is.
Antonio Anoki, his big return right here on the show.
Jim, real quick before we move on.
And that was long-term storytelling, too.
It took weeks and months.
It seems like years to get to that point.
I'm just happy I didn't have to open that third one because
I have it here.
Hey!
No, don't pick it up.
Well, the packaging says you could hear the Antonio Inoki theme song, and now we know it is indeed a possibility on the air.
And then it has one, two, three, da!
Which I don't know if that's exactly what he said either.
What does da mean?
Well, the best thing, too, is on the back of it, it has his height, 1951 centimeters, his weight,
108 kilograms.
Okay, goddamn.
His finish hold, there's a swastika.
What?
What?
And then it says, Gatami
cobra twist.
So I didn't know he was doing the Nazi Gatami cobra twist.
No, that's, there's an actual,
now certainly there's not an actual swastika.
I will,
I will be sending you a photo of this momentarily.
Oh, geez.
There absolutely is.
This is, this was made in Japan in the 1980s.
So how did, I mean, I understand that when he's stepping over the octopus,
his legs are crooked out in that fashion and he's got, but that's, that still doesn't,
see, I look at as he's hunting Nazis, that he's trying to kill Nazis with his hold,
not that he's like supporting them.
I see Antonio Nochi is a man for this.
Well, they would be supporting him.
He'd have his full weight on them if he had the hold on there.
Jim, before we move on, I sent you an email.
If you could open your email real quick, just to finish things.
Well, I had, I had, and I assume that it is the picture that you spoke of,
God damn, it is a swastika, isn't it?
It's not printed like a swastika logo.
It's printed like if a swastika logo.
it's printed like if a swastika was like a letter.
It's like that you would hit,
oh, here's the swastika letter on the typewriter.
It just fits in with the rest of the print.
His finished the cobra twist,
K-O-B-U-R-A-T-W-I-S-T.
Could that, how would they not know what that is,
but could that be something in translation
from something else.
I hope I've made that perfectly clear.
Yeah, I mean, again, maybe another thing to elevate Antonio Anoki,
Antonio Inoki Nazi Hunter, I think it has a hell of a ring to it.
All right, I'll put him down, Jim.
It's not ever going to quit now.
How much is 108 kilograms?
I don't know.
Ask that, who was it Jack Reynolds?
Who was the fucking ring announcer for the Clash of Champions?
And he had the Russian assassins, and he goes,
had a combined weight.
of 190 pounds from Keyless Russia.
All right.
Well, Jim, yeah.
That's even better than South Central Louisiana.
Who did that?
I remember you tell him that story.
Who did South Central Louisiana?
We ended up with a ring announcer one night on a Smoky Mountain Wrestling show
that was part of the local sponsoring Fire Department.
group because for whatever reason,
there was no other ring announcer
there that night.
And so I would write down
in a case of an inexperienced announcer,
I'd write down the actual weights
and the hometowns. All you have to do is say
from so-and-so to wait of so-and-so
person's name.
The gangsters were from South
Central L.A.
And so when he read it out loud,
from South Central Louisiana
The Gangsters
Well again, we want to thank
Antonio Anoki for participating the last several weeks
here on the show. We really do appreciate it.
There it is.
Oh, that didn't sound so good, but Jim Cornett's
funniest moments, volume four, omnibus, volume five, is in the works
right now. Jim, you know, you are promised everyone at the start
of the show that you were going to tell the greatest story ever told.
So now it's...
I...
You're trying to...
You're trying to George Burns my Jack Benny.
But my uncle, who's a psychiatrist,
last week, a nurse ran into his office and said,
Doctor, there's a man in a waiting room and thinks he's invisible.
The doctor said, tell him I can't see.
Well, there you go.
A man in the waiting room thinks he's invisible.
And we're going to be invisible because the show is over, ladies and gentlemen,
but you can't see us for me.
I'm going to stay out of sight of you.
for a while after this.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, the high chinks continue in 2026 and beyond.
Thanks for listening.
We'll be back on the drive-through and the experience.
For Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last.
Telly-ho!
