Jim Cornette Experience - Jim Cornette Experience Special - Funniest Moments Omnibus, Volume 4

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

A Christmas special for Experience listeners today: Here is Jim Cornette's Funniest Moments Omnibus, Volume 4! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim an...d Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast  Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more!  You can listen to Brian each week on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again, friends. And you are our friends, the great Brian last here. You there, we are back on the bus for a very popular installment. Well, we don't know. I guess it will be, but a popular series, the latest installment, once again. What the hell are you talking about at this point? Well, that's the wrong sound. There we go.
Starting point is 00:00:23 But here we are. Stick your organ in if talking doesn't work. Ladies and gentlemen, the latest omnibus, Jim Corny. That's Funniest Moments, Volume 4. I'm the great Brian last. Here is the leader of the cult of Coronet, Mr. Jim Cornett. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've done a few before of these omnibai of our funniest moments. Sometimes they were planned to be funny, and sometimes it just turns out that way.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And so they've been so popular, we've done another one. And this one goes back over a number of years. You may find some of your classic favorites in here. Or if you're a newer listener, you might not have heard something. well, you'll hear it here and wouldn't that just be swell? But we're going to just tickle the cockles of your cockles with some of the funniest repartee and wittiest banter that has ever been cast on a pod before.
Starting point is 00:01:15 That's right, and we think you'll enjoy this. We're looking forward to listening back to this, and in fact, Jim has already promised at the end of this show after you listen to all of this, he'll be back here with me with the funniest joke you ever heard. But let's get to the omnibus now. Jim Cornett's funniest moment. Volume 4.
Starting point is 00:01:32 On the straight shooting series, Volume 2 DVD, you told Bobby the Brain Heenan about a raccoon invading your house. Can you please share the raccoon story with the listeners? Well, okay. We had just moved into Castle Cornette after the renovations. This was some 12 years ago or so. And Stacey was in California visiting her family at the time. I was here by myself.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And I'm in the bedroom. I'm watching TV. and I hear this right somewhere and I'm thinking what it wasn't like somebody was knocking on the door it was just a continuous and I look out the window at the back door and there's nobody there and I turn out on turn on all the outside lights and I look around the house and everything's locked up it's two o'clock in the morning or whatever time it is on Sunday and so I've lay back down watching TV and a minute later I walk around again I'm saying what the fuck I cannot find anything out of place or anything wrong. So while later I get up to walk from the bedroom through my hallway
Starting point is 00:02:42 into the bathroom and when you look to the right in the hallway, you look down into the kitchen. And as I walk through the hallway and I happen to glance to the right, I see the biggest fucking raccoon that I've ever seen in my life in my kitchen. Walking across the floor looks up at me, doesn't register anything, kind of turns left and goes into my living room. What the fuck? Well, now I'm, I'm naked, first of all. I have no shoes. The shoes are past the raccoon.
Starting point is 00:03:13 They're at the front door because we got a no shoes policy in the castle. And I'm naked because I'm home alone. I'm in bed. It's two o'clock in the morning. So I'm like, well, I'm not going to fight a fucking potentially rabid raccoon naked. So, but at the same time, this is, this is a sizable. Are you people up north? Are you familiar with raccoons?
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah, we have them here too. Okay, well, this is a sizable raccoon. It's the size of a medium-sized dog. It looked like to me. I don't know. It was a 25-30 pounder. It had to be. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I mean, it just, it was enormous. And I'm thinking, what the, so I go back in the bedroom and I close the door. And I'm thinking now, I'm not going to take, I do have a weapon, even though I am very pro-gun control. I have a small, non-automatic handgun that I've had for 30 years that I do use in my home for protection. I've actually never used it because I've never needed it, but it's there. And I'm not against those small, you know, one bullet at a time, six-bullet type of firearms. But I am against in my brand new recently renovated home chasing after a goddamn raccoon in my living room and trying to pick it off, right?
Starting point is 00:04:24 I've never fired the fucking gun to begin. I fired it once 30 years ago when I got it, make sure it worked and that's it. so I'm thinking the gun is out. I don't know that I want to take a bat after the raccoon in my brand new renovated house, especially since in the living room, that's where the majority of the antiques in the house are. What do I do? I know. I'll call 911.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So I call 911. And they say, sir, what's your emergency? I said, I'm not really sure. I said, I have a potentially rabid and very large raccoon loose in my home. That was the response I got. They said, did you say a raccoon? I said, yes, a raccoon, it's loose, it's in my home. It might be rabid.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I don't know. I'm not acquainted with. We've never met me in this coon. I said, is there a procedure to follow here? And they say, well, it's now, it's three o'clock in a morning on Sunday. So, you know, animal control is closed, but we can send the cops out. And I'm like, well, I live in the town I live in, they're doing nothing at this time of night anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:23 There's no crime here. So I'll go ahead and send them. well the raccoon call went out and apparently they really weren't doing anything because i got how guess how many police cars i got for a call of a rabid raccoon in my home i don't know three four and now and and they said just stay there so now i open the bedroom door and i can hear his claws on my towel floor he's back in the kitchen right so finally the cops get here they knock on the front door now i'm dressed but i still don't have any shoes but i got to go to the front door. So I do pick up, I can't remember what it was I had in the bedroom. It was some
Starting point is 00:06:05 type of blunt instrument. And I creep down the stairs right in front of the kitchen is the front door. And I opened the front door and the cops come in. I said, all right, guys. I said, there's a raccoon in this fucking house somewhere. I saw it. Okay. So they start at the bottom and they systematically, they went down in the bar area. Everything's fine. They go through the living room and the kitchen and the TV room. There's no need to go out into the sunroom and the hot tub room area because that door was closed. There's no way he could have got there. Come upstairs, check the bedrooms, the bathroom. And they're starting to look at me like I'm on some kind of drugs, right? Because there's no raccoon or sign of a raccoon. There's no door open. There's no window open in this fucking house, right?
Starting point is 00:06:52 And I said, the only place to go now is up, up into the vault and in my office area. So, as soon as we start going up the next flight of stairs into the vault, then I look to the right and now I see it. There's a hatched door about three feet square that leads to the attic space that is over the top of my bedrooms. That door is standing wide open. What I was hearing, what was this fucking giant raccoon drop kicking that door until finally he caused it to open.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Wow. Now, the vault is about 50 feet long, and it's dark. I turn the lights on, and when we're going down and the cops have the flashlights, and as we go, come through the door into the office area, and they shine the flashlight over to the left, this fucking raccoon is sitting on an antique end table, right next to my couch, right next to the front windows. When the flashlight hits him, he jumps up and climbs up my curtains and then leaps off over the couch and starts running around the room. And one of the cops who had said,
Starting point is 00:07:59 well, I'm a raccoon hunter from way back. And, you know, he wasn't really impressed by the fact that I told him this was the biggest raccoon in all of recorded history. Guess what that cop said. What did he say? That's the biggest raccoon I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So while they're chasing this fucking thing around the room and I'm trying to find the lightswitch, I run over and I fling the sliding glass door to my deck, the second story or third story deck actually i should say out i fling the sliding glass door open and if they can chase him out on the deck he'll be trapped out there right because there's a railing around and it's quite a ways off the well i didn't realize that raccoons were so fucking acrobatic they chased him out he ran right out on the deck right up on the railing and jumped off
Starting point is 00:08:44 into the goddamn inky blackness of night like he was committing suicide but we never found a body so i assume that these raccoons are just athletic as all fuck And now where they scared him, he has left a trail of raccoon shit. He shit on my antique end table. He shit on some of the boxes that I hadn't unpacked yet. He shit on my carpet. He just dribbled a line of shit all the way out the door. So at least I was vindicated in that there was a raccoon in my house.
Starting point is 00:09:15 We don't know if he was rabid because we weren't able to contain him. He went off into the night to terrorize other innocent people. And those four cop cars sat down to bottom of the house. my driveway for the better part of a half an hour, I'm sure radioing all over the, you know, Kentucky and southern Indiana area about the dangerous raccoon call that they had just had just had. And so the bottom line is I got a deadbolt. And he had pried loose the screen on my attic exhaust fan that was supposed to keep thing. And somehow had climbed in that way, but I put a dead bolt on my attic hatch door.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So if anybody breaks into my fucking attic, they, cannot get into the house anymore. There's a dead bolt on it. And that's the raccoon story. Did the police know you already? Yeah, they knew the fuck I was. I'm just wondering when they get a call at three in the morning that Jim Cornett's having an issue at the house with a raccoon, did they all just go, I got to see this. Let's all go. I will. I mean, they didn't come out and admit that to me, but I think that's pretty much what happened because and there was two cops in each car. So you had eight cars. I had eight cops in my house at three o'clock in the morning trying to fucking chase the wild raccoon out because they, you know, I mean, there's always
Starting point is 00:10:26 you know, either that or I'm on the news, you know, a couple of years ago fighting the, you know, housing development across the street or the subdivision, whatever they call them, or, you know, they get called to the scene where I've got the cab driver that ran in Stacy's car, I'm nose and nose with him, got him bent back over his fucking trunk or whatever. There's, they're familiar. They're familiar. Of course, Jim, rock auto.com has a lot of hot deals and has a lot of hot deals and there's a lot of hot news and a hot events happening in and around the world of professional wrestling.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Fire. Who? Who? Fire. I love that. And you remember that album cover, too, with the hot girl with the... That was the best thing about them. Around her?
Starting point is 00:11:08 The hose around the hoe? The best thing about the Ohio players with those album covers. Yes. And, well, you remember honey, too, wasn't it with sweet, sticky thing? She was pouring honey all over her mammary. glands. But anyway, there's been hot news, huh? Sizzling hot. All right, let me. Scorching. I know it's, I know it's your show, but God damn it. I saw this right before I left town and I couldn't, I decided to just wait. I didn't retweet it. I didn't
Starting point is 00:11:43 comment on it because I decided to just wait until I could break this happenstance down piece by piece. Apparently, one of our old friends, we haven't talked about him a lot because nobody's seen him in months. Old Jelly Nutella is waddled back from obscurity. Apparently, sometime back, I forget, was it six months, eight months, nine months, however long it's been. We've been free of his presence on AEW television because apparently Tony Con got buyer's remorse fairly quickly. He thought he was getting the indie rific standout that he was
Starting point is 00:12:23 apparently sold and he was sold a bill of goods and what he got was a parking lot of tenants. So since Tony doesn't really have the balls to do anything about his talent mistakes, he just lets their contracts run out and doesn't book them and sometimes doesn't call him or text them either. And apparently that's when jelly's been floating around wherever jelly goes, but he's back. and he wanted apparently to make some headlines.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And he's on some clown show. I've seen the clip. Everybody tweeted it and everybody's been emailing. He's on some garbage show somewhere in a brick holding cell in front of what looked like about 40-something people. And he's wrestling some clown. And folks, if, Brian, you're going to have to tell the people that this is not a bit because they're going to think, oh, now, why is he,
Starting point is 00:13:15 winding this guy up like that. This didn't happen. So please, after I describe it, confirm for the people that I have described this correctly. Jelly figures, the big finish of this match, is going to be a flaming super kick.
Starting point is 00:13:35 So what he does is he sits down in the ring and pours lighter fluid or gasoline or some flammable or inflammable, whichever one that applies, substance, to his own foot, his own boot, and proceeds to set himself on fucking fire.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And superkicks this idiot, who actually agreed to stand there and take that, and then realizes, he's got no plan to put himself out. I'm not talking about a bad plan. I'm talking about no plan. His foot is continuing to burn and be on fire. And he sits down.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Well, he doesn't sit down. It wasn't that fucking casual and lackadaisical. He drops down on his ass and he's patting the foot. And the foot is catching the mat on fire. And flames are now coming from the fucking mat. and the referee grabs a bottle of literally a 16 ounce plastic bottle
Starting point is 00:14:49 of drinking water and is poured and then people start throwing more bottles of water into the ring and people start coming and uncorking them and trying to and jelly is screaming I guess whatever
Starting point is 00:15:05 you scream when you're on fucking fire and nobody had a fire extinguisher that's why I'm talking there was not a bad plan, there was no plan. He forgot that after he hit the super kick, his foot would still be on fucking fire. And he turned into Richard Pryor, only it was his foot instead of his fucking face.
Starting point is 00:15:31 What was the finish of that match? Brian, did anybody ever win? The clip cut off. Did I describe that correctly? You did, and I'm not sure if that was the finish. I guess the other opponent won via fire. forfeit? I'm not exactly sure. One via third degree?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, the winner via third degree burns. Tits McGee over here, ladies and gentlemen. Can we please get a rag and a dust pan so we can sop up what's left of jelly? I missed the days when before you had endless tables and chairs under the ring, there was a fire extinguisher. You know, actually, that's the thing. In a lot of places, we always carried one in Smoky Mountain.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I think we had one in OVW. But yes, in a lot of places you would have a fire extinguisher under or around the ring are accessible when people didn't set themselves on fucking fire and forget that they would have to find a way to put themselves out. That was just in case it accidentally happened. So I guess he achieved, because we've established before, that jelly is the kind of guy
Starting point is 00:16:47 he enjoys the attention of people laughing at him and calling him a clueless puts and a fat dumpy piece of shit and a fucking you know brown and serve roll covered in pubic hair and all the other things
Starting point is 00:17:02 he wants to be noted for doing stupid things because then people are noting him I'm sure his family is proud but so he he wormed his way back into the news by setting himself on fucking fire in front of 42 people for no money in a goddamn cinder block building we just wanted to keep everybody up on on where the old AEW favorites are where are they now you know clearly this is another one of those booking mistakes from tony con he should
Starting point is 00:17:40 have found the way to retain this guy well if he would have set him on fire that would have been the first match of jellies that I would have liked on his television. Maybe they could have used them in the buildup to Cody's match and had Brandy set him on fire and then had Brandy set the table and Cody on fire during the match to build to it. But this, you know, Cody set himself on fire by accident. Oh, okay, fine then. What if Jericho, instead of lighting the air above Eddie Kingston's head on fire lit jelly to tell his foot on fire?
Starting point is 00:18:15 It would have been a great way to build to. But see, that was a proper. fireball, if he'd had good aim, it would have been safe and effective and good for you and looked good and all that stuff. He just, you know, but this was real fire with real flammable liquid that not only, I don't know whether he'll be wearing that boot again or not, old jelly, and it's a special problem for him since both of his feet are like fucking different sizes. But it also set the mat on fire. So the mat, the guys lost that mat. The, the guys lost that mat. and unless he just wants to put it out there with burn marks on it,
Starting point is 00:18:52 maybe he could charge the marks $2 a piece to take pictures of it. With, you know, here's where Jelly set himself on fire. I'm standing on it. Oh, come on, you can take advantage of this. He could be the club foot Nutella. Hey, that would be, if Dustin, when he was gold dust, was seriously thinking about getting breast implants to shock everybody, then I'm sure for his art, for his career,
Starting point is 00:19:16 because he loves pro wrestling so much. Jelly will be willing to get his foot amputated. And then he could come, and he could, that, if he had done this 35 years ago, he could have been the one-legged wrestler that could play Long John Silver that Jim Hurd was looking for it, TBS. Yeah, foot von Eric. And here's Kerry's second cousin, stumpy von Eric. You thought Chris looked like shit. Here's the other cousin.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Boy. Waldo's other son. Waldo Sunny had with a motel made in Buffalo A few days ago On my program The highest rated program The Jim Cornett Experience When you said something
Starting point is 00:20:01 And I didn't fully grasp What you said And so I did some research I checked it out And now Not only do I know But can't get out of my fucking head hocus, pocus by focus.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I don't remember saying anything about that song at all. What? You're the one who, you're the only human being I've talked to in the last three days. Why did I go to YouTube and look up hocus, Pocus by Focus on the Midnight Special so I could see the clip that you were talking about when we were discussing Don Kirster's rock concert of Midnight Special or however it came up. I didn't mention it. I did not mention hocus pocus by focus once.
Starting point is 00:20:54 What? Not only did I not mention it on the show, I don't think I've ever mentioned it ever, ever. Like in the history of me, I've never ever... No, no, no, no, you can't do this. Who else have I spoken to that would have mentioned that song? I mentioned, we talked about Mark Boland. We talked about T-Rex. I mentioned the old gray whistle test.
Starting point is 00:21:14 We talked about rock concert versus a business special. No, no, no, because that clip was last week. that was last week on a something made you on the experience talk about this goddamn song and i had heard the song the name hocus pocus by focus i had seen that written down but i didn't know what song sounded like and i'd heard that song a hundred thousand times but i never knew what it was called and once i watched this video where you told me i did not i absolutely Who else have I spoken to that would alerted me to an old clip from the Midnight Special of this band that I've never even thought of in a fucking 100,000 years playing this and then they had a
Starting point is 00:22:00 like a seven-minute song they had to play in four minutes and they did it double time and the guy almost went out of his fucking mind and they gave him a standing ovation on the Midnight Special. I told you I like punk rock and somehow that led you down this road. I don't understand. You somehow mentioned this song. No. I've double dog there somebody. Jay Shark Nato, Kippelman.
Starting point is 00:22:31 What's he doing these days? Is he got a life? Somebody listening to a last show. What are you saying over there? Well, who's as he got then? Somebody listened to the last show. And I'm telling you. you, you are the one who told me about this song.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And you deny that. Not only do I deny it, I don't even, I know the name of the song and the name of the band. I can't hear the song in my own head as we're talking about. I don't know what the song sounds like. I'm sure I heard it. I haven't talked to anybody else. Norman Dooley.
Starting point is 00:23:02 No, he wouldn't have mentioned hocus pocus by focus. And I spoke to him briefly, but the subject didn't come up. And actually, that was before we did the last recording that we did. Was it listener feedback to the talk about the Midnight Special? I couldn't care about listener feedback. It was you telling me that this song was so fucking great in some fashion. If someone could find any evidence in any episode ever of any podcast I've ever been on. It's just a few days ago.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Now you've got me questioning myself. I haven't talked to anybody else. I haven't had time. What else have you heard me say on these shows? I'll tell you this. See, I thought we were going to have a good discussion there. And you just... I just wish I knew about it.
Starting point is 00:23:55 What day is this? All right, let me think. I didn't talk to anybody yesterday. I didn't talk to anybody before yesterday. I was too busy. Do you talk music with the Monroe's? The Monroe brothers were here over the weekend, but I didn't talk music with them. I think somebody's going to find evidence that you've just, you retired that day.
Starting point is 00:24:15 and you just don't remember what you've been talking about. Well, everybody should look up hocus, pocus by focus on the midnight special on YouTube. It's the goddamnest thing you've ever seen in your life. You ever seen Redbone on Midnight Special when they do love? Go and get your love, motherfucker. But it has the whole war dance at the beginning of it? Yes, because Redbone was the, it was the only band comprised entirely of Native Americans to have a top 40 hit. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Well, I was about to either agree or disagree. What the fuck? I agree. Already you're acting like I've got, you're looking at me across the inner waves here, like I've got smoking turds hanging out of my mouth because I've accused you. How else? Who else would have talked to me about this song but you? That's the other big mystery.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Where did you hear this and who were you talking to? We had a discussion. I have never, ever, ever mentioned that band or that song in a discussion. I don't even know what you. the song is. I know the name of the song, but I don't know the song in my head. I can't hear it. You know what song's been stuck in my head? Because I caught an Ed Sullivan replay, like two weeks ago. Grazing in the grass by the Friends of Distinction. Yes, they were very friendly friends. But then, you know, who did an amazing version of that in the, I would say, well, mid-70s, probably.
Starting point is 00:25:45 The grazing and the grass by the Friends of Distinction was, what, late 60s? Yeah, like 68, 68, somewhere around the mid-70s, Herb Albert and Hugh Massacala did an incredible horn-centric version of, grazing and the grassin, thick ass, baby, can you dig it? I can dig it, dig it, dig it, she can dig it, dig it, dig it, we can dig it, dig it, dig it. See, I doesn't say anything like, Hocus, Pocus by Focus. It is the greatest scat song that ever made the chart. The woman, one of the women in the band, one of the, they're not a band, one of the singers was Jessica Cleave.
Starting point is 00:26:22 She was later with George Clinton. I don't know if it was in Parliament or Funkadelic or P-Funk all combined, but she went from grazing in the grass to a lot of grass, I'm assuming, with George Clinton. So you don't, you see, it could have been Parliament, could have been Funkadelic, could have been P-Funk, could it, it was somewhere around the mothership. That's right. There you go. Something else I saw on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:26:45 since you won't own up to the... If someone finds me saying, if someone, the first person to get in touch and say they have it with an actual example, you win a prize of some sort. I'm not going to be giving away any prizes. Who are you, Brian, last thousand now? You'll get a prize of some sort.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I don't know what it'll be. It could be a book. It could be... Just any old thing you want to throw out. I got an extra Eisenhower book recently. I can give that... An extra one. An extra one.
Starting point is 00:27:14 That'd be one more. than I have, besides the interstate highway, what did he do as a president that we should be remembering? He gave maybe the most, I wouldn't say consequential, but maybe the greatest leaving office speech that in history now, you look back and like, wow, he really saw where things were going, where he warned everyone about the military industrial complex. You know, you mentioned the plumber. Is he still hurt now or hurt again or been locked up, taken away, tied up, and held for ransom? What's his status?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Did you see the... I haven't read it yet, but a lot of people were posting quotes from it in the Culta Cornette Facebook group and on Twitter. There's an article... Here, I have it here. From your good friends, Jim, at The Messenger... Don't shoot the Messenger! AEW's John Moxley calls for major industry change after suffering concussion in the ring. Exclusive.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Moxley was injured during a match on AEW Dynamite last month, which sent him to, quote, fucking out of space for 10 minutes. And now he's proposing an idea how to better protect wrestlers. And this is by Daniel Traynor. You know what? I got the first idea. If you are a wrestler that's been knocked into fucking outer space, don't go 10 more minutes.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Here's the question before we read any of this. Are Moxley's groundbreaking suggestions going to be the things that anyone would say who wasn't already doing this? Is he just like, now that he got knocked in the head, he's like, wow, I just realized what everyone else has been saying about how stupid everything we do is. Well, of course, that's what it is. But also, if he wanted to make industry-wide change,
Starting point is 00:29:04 he was probably in the place that he may have been able to do it. the one that leads the industry. But he couldn't hack it there, and he didn't like it. So he went to play with his friends, and now he ain't going to change shit because none of these guys are going to do anything that they don't want to do. If I could make this time machine work backwards, I wish I could be in the room for Moxley pitching to Heyman and Brock Lesnar what he wanted to do. I would pay anything to be in the room to hear that conversation.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But here's the article, once again, by Daniel Traynor, the messenger. I don't know if he's the messenger or just writes for the messenger. John Moxley was standing in front of more than 10,000 wrestling fans inside New York's Arthur Ash Stadium, but he had absolutely no idea where he was. During Moxley's AEW International Championship Defense against Ray Phoenix at AEW Dynamite Grand Slam on September 20th, Moxley suffered a mild concussion at the start of their match.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Moxley exclusively told the messenger the concussion happened, quote, 30 seconds in, end quote, which ultimately sent him to, quote, fucking out of space for like 10 minutes. I just kept getting progressively more lost. I couldn't figure out where the fuck I was. Then, I had this moment of clarity. Oh, I'm fucked up.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I gotta get the fuck out of here. So an in-ring audible was called to end-the-matcher. and give the title to small package you fucking moron not pile driver package the guy just small package the fucking you're supposed to win you're hurt here are your options small package the fucking guy one two three and the doctor comes in
Starting point is 00:30:52 or the other guy picks you up over his fucking shoulder and drops you on your head again twice which one should you pick it is funny I mean you said just roll him up He gave him a pile driver that gave him a second pilot driver. Sunset, small package, sunset flip, good God. I've seen a motherfucker win a match that had a broken leg when he was supposed to win. I don't, all right.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Hey, Doc, if I ever get a concussion, what should I definitely not do if I'm not able to communicate or no one picks up on it? Just definitely don't do a pile driver, let alone two, back to back. so an in-ring audible was called to end the match early and give the title to Phoenix Moxley returned to action on AEW collision last week but even being out of action a month was difficult for him I'm a very physical person
Starting point is 00:31:54 I like wrestling for the sake of wrestling I like to do shit with my body so sitting still and being injured is always very challenging now fully in the clear I can't I can't I can't believe they put up with him up there as long as they did now if he was talking like that around normal adult people in the business I can't I don't know how the fuck somebody didn't fucking go into business for
Starting point is 00:32:22 themselves just throw him out in the parking lot go ahead now fully in the clear moxley said the industry needs to adopt better safeguards to protect wrestlers in the ring in pro wrestling It's a really touchy subject. Moxley said, but acknowledged bluntly, somebody's got to fucking bring it up. Pro wrestling is such a strange thing. In football, if a guy goes down and doesn't go back to the huddle,
Starting point is 00:32:51 you know he's fucked up. In pro wrestling, a lot of times it's hard to tell what's real and what's fake. Not when you're in the ring. Moving forward, Moxley has a very, vision for a new system that he thinks might work. Maybe a really experienced wrestler and a really experienced doctor who are trained to see signs of that shit or watching it on a separate feed. Even if they have a doctor close to ringside.
Starting point is 00:33:24 What if the guy fucking spills outside the ring? He doesn't see that. As Moxley articulates, both these... He does? Is that what you call that? Articulating? As Moxley articulates, these two hypothetical individuals would have no prior knowledge of what they were about to see. The doctor and the wrestler are completely untethered to the creative portion of it.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Oh, good Lord. They have no idea nor any interest in what the story is. Who wins? Who loses? Who cares? How long it's supposed to go? What is, what point is he making? so because they don't know what the guy's finish is, that means that they'll be able to better identify it
Starting point is 00:34:11 when some motherfucker bashes another fucker's brains in? What, it, that anybody hasn't seen almost every fucking time these people are injured, that they're injured, Moxley, when he got fucking landed on by Felix, the first time with the flip dive, got up and his legs were rubber, and he went back down. And everybody could tell there.
Starting point is 00:34:35 The referees are useless and feckless and dickless. And the fucking Felix comes from Luchador City, where they probably land on each other 15 times a night and concuss each other. Nobody even knows. Didn't it happen to Danielson? Nobody knew what the fuck was going on there. Didn't that happen to Danielson once in WWA?
Starting point is 00:34:55 He was wrestling a match on Raw, and they thought he was concussed, and I think he was. And, like, Triple H actually came out to stop the match. Yes, I believe he did. And he was angry about it. He wanted to keep wrestling. and they're like, no, we're going to stop this. There's none of that in AEW.
Starting point is 00:35:08 But here's the thing. Again, nobody knew what the viewers, the fans, the people watching television, the people in the arena, nobody knew what the finish was. They figured Moxley was going to keep the belt because why would you switch it? But nobody knew how long it was supposed to go and nobody knew what the finish was. And nobody knew what... Not even me. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:34 as it come to find out, but they didn't, when I say they didn't know what the finish was, they didn't know, okay, three drop kicks, two, hip tosses, a body slam, whatever the fuck. So, if Moxley got his bell rung and couldn't hardly get up, then at the start, then if he was feeling well enough to continue, he should have known at that point, let's not do this 15-minute match.
Starting point is 00:36:00 This fucking guy just landed on my head and fucked me up. and we're going to do whatever the fuck in a small package. And then in the locker room I'll tell him, well, you landed on my fucking head, and I didn't know what I was doing, so we just got out of it. Or he should have told the referee, because the referee's wired up to the goddamn back. He can hear Tony in the back at the gorilla position. And if Tony said, scratch your head if Moxley's okay, and the referee didn't scratch his head, or reverse, scratch your head if Moxley's hurt and he scratches his head,
Starting point is 00:36:36 then Tony should have said, then tell him to fucking take it home. There's all kinds of things that could have gone on before it got to the point, including, as we mentioned when we talked about the match that Moxley had just hit Felix with two or three big moves and covered him and got two counts, and then he just decides, wait a minute, I can't go on any longer. beat me? What the... No! Has anybody got any sense and experience at the same time in a situation? The answer we found out was
Starting point is 00:37:12 no, none whatsoever. I had the Blackpool Combat Club are the biggest, baddest team. Their fucking leader fled. And then you can't hit any of them in the face or they're out of action from months at a time. Let me finish off this article here. All right, go, yeah, please finish it off. Once again from the messenger, watch out Justin Barrasso. It looks like someone's moving in on your territory.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Why does Moxley think a wrestler needs to be watching alongside the doctor, you might ask? He's got that answer too. If a guy fucking spins around or something and the doctor goes, is he okay? The wrestler could tell him, that's just
Starting point is 00:37:51 a pro wrestling thing. Don't worry. Oh my God. Moxley's proposed system would make things as cut and dry as possible no matter what it means for the overall competition. As soon as the doctor sees a sign of somebody being concussed, he just fucking hits the red button.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Oh, jeez. Oh, no, I did that wrong. He just hits the fucking red button. Boom. This is over. No matter how much time is left. No matter if it's on live TV, it's just over. Why don't they give him a gong?
Starting point is 00:38:23 And you figure it out from there. And you figure it out from there. You know what, Moxley's like the... Fucking Chick Donovan called a fucking spot one time with a guy. As he shot the guy off, he said, one tackle, drop down, you finish it. And the guy's running the rope's going, what? What? That's the same, yeah, and you figure it out from there.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Sure, somebody's going to need to, because you can't, you fucking pee brain moron. Oh my God, wait, we just have received word from TOTocon. The red button has been pushed. Matches over. The match is over, red button. The winner. A cone comes down over the rig and then fog is shot into it as a decontamination.
Starting point is 00:39:10 This guy's a simpleton. He's a simpleton and he's got brain damage. You can tell. His brain has been damaged. For the things he likes, the things he does, the things he says, whatever. But no, you don't need a doctor and a wrestler and a red button and a separate fucking feed.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And they know nothing about the booking. They can't know anything. about what's going to happen. And, well, then in that case, how the fuck do, if they know what the finish is, when a guy gets dropped on his head and is laying there selling, they'll, well, he's supposed to. Fucking morons for that matter.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But besides that, I've been in the business for fucking 40 years. And every time that I can ever remember, being on a show or being doing commentary or being in a locker room, when somebody ever got fucking a concussion, they pretty much knew about it because the guy that got dropped on his head was, hey, grab a hold, I'm fucking hurt. One time Bobby Fulton,
Starting point is 00:40:11 I remember this, the Fantastics against Ron Simmons and Butch Reed. Bobby got dropped or in some way landed on his head and finished the match but then came in the locker room and didn't remember it. And N was freaking out because he couldn't remember finishing the match. but everybody it around the ring has a part to play in it without putting extra people out there
Starting point is 00:40:38 the referee both guys working with each other you can see on the monitor if somebody if something really looked bad that's why the X sign from the referees came into being and then everybody got smart to it and then they started working it to work the people but the referee would tell the the backstage gorilla position crew yes he's really fucked up
Starting point is 00:41:05 and they would send instructions to the referee of how to immediately get out of it it's not all what we'll think about it and get back to you it I have a well I have an update here an article from Sports Illustrated just came up sI.com by Justin Barrasso I bleed in the sunlight John Moxley proposes new
Starting point is 00:41:26 system to help with blood and wrestling. It's come to my attention. That bleeding is wrong. It certainly has come to his attention. I've got a concussion, so now I have ideas how to fix the whole business. In other words, no. Just have some people with some experience and some common sense and they're looking for things. And to be honest, again, I am going to say that I did, five, five, six years since I
Starting point is 00:41:56 I did 300 one-hour OVW television programs that we aired here in Louisville over a six-year period and that was a wrestling school with the most inexperienced top-to-bottom crew that you would pretty much find doing anything on any television level anywhere. And I know we had concussions and training. I don't remember a concussion
Starting point is 00:42:24 ever happening on the television program and I don't remember ever having to stop one of the matches because anybody was hurt for real. Imagine that. And if you go back to Smoggy Mountain Wrestling where I did 200 one hour television episodes of that, can you remember, you've seen most of those, was anybody ever hurt for real to where we had to stop the match
Starting point is 00:42:52 or switch up what the fuck was going on? Just the fact that we're having to think this hard indicates it was rare. Canemora kind of got hurt, but he asked. for it. Well, yeah. That was, and he did it to himself. So I'm talking about, you know, an accidental goddamn injury that was unforeseen and, you know, Jericho breaking his arm, but no one was there and that was before. He was practicing in the ring in an empty building and doing a flip that he didn't need to do that night. Again, a lot of this comes down to style. And I'm not saying everyone has to
Starting point is 00:43:32 wrestle like Big John Stud. I don't want that. I like Brett Hart. Brett Hart was rarely ever injured for the majority of his career, and he wrestled good matches, physical matches. Well, look what's happening now. It's wrestling smart. It's wrestling, it's not wrestling hard or soft, it's wrestling smart. Jerry Lawler had some of the most exciting matches over a 15-year period that was going on in wrestling.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And his had never had a major knee surgery, never had a, he had various injuries from taking some of those bumps, but never anything spinal, neck, broke his leg playing fucking football. He didn't even hurt in wrestling. Heard in football. Never wore knee pads until he was past 40. And took some, and was run over by cars.
Starting point is 00:44:23 For those of you who were young, quite literally, go Google, Jerry Lawler, hit by a car, and you can see Eddie Gilbert run over him on live television in 1990. Yes. And as we've told, we'll finish the story, and we'll move on. So many people called the Memphis Pleasant,
Starting point is 00:44:38 police to say they'd just seen a vehicular homicide on live television that the cops came to Channel 5 and made Lawler go back out on the TV before the end of the show to say that he was alive and killed the Angle. But anyway, again, we will talk about the Tony Khan Media Scrum audio both before and after the pay-per-view later on in the show. But Jim, let's have a quick little aside before we get to another one of the big topics here. News breaking as we are recording. What website is this? Inside the Ropes reporting Cota Ibusy rushed
Starting point is 00:45:10 to hospital following double ankle injury Do I don't know me what? Double ankle injury I've never heard of that before a double angle I thought what they did two angles with even one day
Starting point is 00:45:23 Cody a minute wait a minute now come on now there's something this is linked because something happened with with Kenny's bowels and intestines and now you're telling me that fucking Ibushi has bad ankles.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Do you think that they got mad at each other and Abushi broke both of his feet off and Kenny's ass? No, I don't think it's that because Kota Abushi was wrestling apparently. He reportedly injured both of his ankles while headlining a pro wrestling Noah event. How do you hurt both ankles? Did he jump off the fucking roof or something? Japanese sports outlets sports hochi reports that early in his main event match with Marifugi at pro wrestling Noah's the ye...
Starting point is 00:46:06 Excuse me, the new year 2020. The yeet? The yeat? The new year 2024. Did somebody yeat, Abushi? Ibushi suffered an injury to both his ankles. He continued to wrestle, however, eventually beating Marifugi. What was he doing?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Wait, but in over 33 minutes. Hopping on his fucking head or fucking walking on his hands? Have you broken both your fucking ankles? How can you continue the match? For 33 minutes. Oh, good Lord, he was crawling on his belly like a reptile. Ibushi is reported to have walked to the backstage area under his own power but is said to have been in so much severe pain that he could not provide any backstage comments
Starting point is 00:46:45 shortly after he called himself an ambulance and was taken to the hospital in Tokyo he called himself and they wouldn't even get on the phone for him he's super oh god I'm gonna go to the hospital here here's your fucking phone they are waiting god damn sloppy shop is that over there they are awaiting diagnosis from the hospital Tony Khan recently announced that they signed Kota Ibushi who looked horrible in every appearance he's had in AEW in the last year. And depending on how this story goes, may not be wrestling anytime soon. What a disaster. Everyone they sign.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Everyone they sign goes down. But hold on now. Hold on now. Okay, he hurt himself somehow. It's not mentioned in the article. He hurt both ankles at the same time, apparently. One would think, that would be a real pisser, as Captain Lou would say,
Starting point is 00:47:38 to hurt your first ankle and then your second ankle in the same match at different times, but nevertheless, he guts it out, kudos to him, and finishes the match so I don't think they can be broken. But then he's in such severe pain that he wants to go to the hospital of why did he walk to the back under his own power?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Wouldn't you, after you'd finish the match, when he's, okay, I can sell now. it's good for the business like they used to say when you'd get busted open hard way it's good for the it's good for the business carry me out of here haul me out of this motherfucker but he walks to the back and he sits down he says you know i can't do that interview instead hand me my phone i'm calling my own ambulance what the fuck is going on with these people jim i've sent you an email with a link that has a few different videos in it to what apparently is Cote Abusci possibly getting hurt in a match
Starting point is 00:48:37 and a couple of the other moments from the match or after the match where he couldn't even stand up. Oh, well, I've got, now that you've rambled on, I've gotten the link, I'm clicking on said link. Cota Abushi, tag into hospital. Well, it's a lot. Oh, wow, oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:48:56 It's still popping up. See, I'm a slow loader because I got the spectrum. You know, the spectrum cable. and the internet, and it's slower than molasses in January, as Mama Cornett, you say, okay, is the first one. Is the one that I should watch, right? The first one, it appears to be maybe where he got hurt. Well, I'm going to click on that son of a bitch right now
Starting point is 00:49:19 and see what he's going to do that he could potentially be damaged, a moonsault off the second turnbuckle onto the guy on the floor, and he lands right on his feet and grabs his, as I'm turning myself, he grabs his right ankle. And then the clip cuts out. So yeah, that definitely looked like you could damage yourself on that. Again, he just runs down the apron and jumps to the,
Starting point is 00:49:52 almost gets to the second turn buckle, then makes it, and then does the moonsault, lands on the floor on his feet and grabs his right ankle. Well, that was the first video. The second one appears to show the finish. Well, now he should be limping considerably at this point. But he's just collapsed on this guy, like he's laid down on a bed and pinned the guy?
Starting point is 00:50:14 I've never seen anything like that. I've dropped an elbow on my fucking mattress harder, Nat laying down it after a hard day. Whatever he'd done to the guy, he just more or less missionary position, body pressed him and fucking... Well, the third video is the post-match, and this will tie everything together. Okay, and apparently it's the guy that tweeted this, is I cannot believe my eyes, a disaster. Okay, and he's trying to walk, and he's limping, and he falls on his ass, and the other guy whose hand he was raising,
Starting point is 00:50:52 just fucking lets go of his hand and turns off and walks away from him, and kneels down selling, ignoring the fact that this motherfucker actually He just probably collapsed on purpose. Or not on purpose, but collapsed for real. Well, Kota Abushi begins 2024. The way he worked the entirety of 2023, this does not look good. And we'll see what happens. That's all we could report.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Before he hurt himself, he was doing the deal where he runs down and jumps to the second turnbuckle, and he didn't make that the first try. And then got up on it. Well, that's the thing. He didn't even make, like you said, first time he jumped to the second turn buckle. he missed it. I've never seen him do that before. And then he does the deal and the guy, you know, whoever this other fella is,
Starting point is 00:51:40 he tried to catch him, Marofugi. He tried to catch him, but Abushi went kind of over his shoulder and bam and landed on his feet, which apparently he doesn't need to be doing that. Well, there you go. So Tony can, should Tony's father at this point, suggest that he open an offshoot of AEW as like a hospital, medical center, physical rehab,
Starting point is 00:52:10 surgery, bone transplant, fucking, you know, organ black market operation. It seems like there'd be more money in treating the injured AEW wrestlers than there is in paying them while they're healthy to sell tickets. even if you were a fan of Kota Abushis, based on what you've seen from him in the last year, year and a half, whatever it is, you can't tell me there's anything there that would make you want to sign him to a contract
Starting point is 00:52:41 and give him more money. Despite whatever you think of his work from before since he's come back and before this ankle injury apparently, he was awful. Even his own fan said that and Tony gave him a contract. And, you know, and that's...
Starting point is 00:52:58 There are people out there, the Cornad haters, who will say, wow, Cornad would put the belts on the Rock and Roll Express or some fucking blah, blah, blah. If the Midnight Express, we'd know. No, if the Midnight Express present day right here, right now, we're all here. I would not book them to wrestle on a national television program. Because at some point, age catches up with everybody. if Cota Ibusci was a a legend
Starting point is 00:53:29 in a territory or even in this country, Steve Austin can walk in a fucking ring and take a shit and people would still pay to see it but he doesn't need the money to have to do that but he could and they could make money off of him doing it if he would agree to it
Starting point is 00:53:46 and many legends have but but no he's not a person that is going to draw you money based on what he can do now versus what he could do in the past and what's the cutoff then?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Is it 40 years older? Is it 60 years older, whatever? The territory guys learn to work around their limitations because they were over his personalities. Ibushi has none. Most of these guys have none. And that's why when they're 32 and they're falling on their ass
Starting point is 00:54:22 because they can't fucking walk because they've blown their ankles in the same match, whatever. They can't work around that because that's the only thing they do. Personalityes can work around anything. God damn. Think of the guys that were... Lawler until last year,
Starting point is 00:54:42 it had a match every year since 1970. Because he knows what he can do and what he can't do, and he knows what sell people. And all the old territory guys depended on that because sometimes they own the territory, sometimes they own part of it, or they just wanted to stay in the business. You know, Gene Kineski was fucking 60
Starting point is 00:55:04 and still, you know, doing what he wanted to do because he was part of owner and he knew how to fucking stretch. Whatever. These guys, they can't do that because they've set the standard where that's one of those guys that does all that insane shit. And then when it catches up to them
Starting point is 00:55:23 and they can't do it anymore. You can't pay them like, it's like you're paying a fucking singer has just had his goddamn voice box removed. What the fuck are you there for then? Nobody's going to pay just a look at you. So that's, Tony is finding out the problem with this, putting this much reliance
Starting point is 00:55:47 on this kind of chaotic wrestling and signing every darling, even if it's a darling that took him 10 or 15 years to fucking be able to sign. The action figures wear out. There are a couple things here that a lot of listeners have been sending in, both having to deal with Rick Flair. I don't know how much of this you've seen. I got up this morning, and I've been out twice before we started recording,
Starting point is 00:56:16 but in the middle of that, I saw that he's had an issue with pizza people. That's pretty much what I know so far. Well, Jim, yesterday as we are recording, May 5th, 2024, 443 p.m., Rick Flair tweeted out, every word beginning with a capitalization. Is that something you have to do on purpose to make it do that, or is that something that pops up accidentally? Because it doesn't make sense that you would do that on purpose. That is absolutely not the default.
Starting point is 00:56:48 You have to choose that. See, I don't know how to text, but I wouldn't text like that. that. Why is that done? Does that have some meaning with the young folks? I'm not sure why it's done. And, uh, well, let's, maybe this will explain some of it. Let's go to this tweet here from Rick Flair at Rick Flair, N-A-T-R boy on Twitter. I spent $1,500 at Pisano's. Wow. What was it? Pizza with goddamn filet mignon topping? How much pizza?
Starting point is 00:57:24 I eat a lot of pizza. How do you spend $1,500 at the pizza place? That's a shitload of pizza. I don't know if me, Joey Chestnut, and fucking... You both could... All three of us could eat that much pizza. I spent $1,500 at Paizano's to be disrespected more than I ever have in my entire life. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:57:53 after taking 20 pictures with customers and staff, I was asked to leave because of an issue I had. What, wait, what? Hold on, wait a minute. 20 people came up and say, please take your picture with us, please. And then now please get the fuck out of here. What are you? I just find this so funny.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. Well, wait, taking too long in the bathroom. I was laughing and taking too long with his order. But taking too long in the... What, it's a one-huler over there at Paisano's? He couldn't get in the kitchen manager? What was he fucking shooting up in the goddamn stall?
Starting point is 00:58:42 And he couldn't get in any bathroom? But hold on is another way to read that. I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. Maybe he left out a word or two, its Twitter, was Rick taking too long in the bathroom? And the kitchen manager's like, yo, come on already. Out of there. It seems like that the kitchen manager would have access to his own bathroom.
Starting point is 00:59:07 He wouldn't have to go out there and clog it up where the customers couldn't get in. So, I don't know if you're correct there. But well, then what? What's the kitchen manager coming to get the guy out of the bathroom for? Come out of the closet. Is that the kitchen manager's job? Wouldn't that be the matre d? Or do they have a matriety at Paizano?
Starting point is 00:59:28 So then Rick Flair was upset that the kitchen manager was taking too long in the bathroom. It sounds like it to me, but either way. It sounds... Let me finish this. I would highly recommend that
Starting point is 00:59:41 anyone who wants to enjoy a relaxing time in Gainesville and a nice restaurant to never visit this place. I would like to recommend that anyone who wants to take a relaxing dump in the Gainesville area, they'll rush you after you've been in there two minutes.
Starting point is 01:00:00 They'll be shoving toilet paper under the fucking stall door. So get the fuck out of here. Well, Jim, we have an article. We have a brickflake, you can't take him anywhere. Even if he's spending all this money in a pizza place. By the way, that's just stupid money in a pizza place. I've always heard brickflare's loose with his money. Now I get it.
Starting point is 01:00:20 He's just going crazy and Chuck E. What is the goddamn most expensive pizza that you can buy? Is there a $50 fucking pizza? And that would be 10, 30 of them. What's your most expensive pizza? It's like $12. I'll take $10,000 of them right now. Do you deliver?
Starting point is 01:00:42 Do they have the capacity to make $1,500 worth of pizza in such a short period of time? But we have an article here, Jim, from the Gainesville son. This is a serious matter. From the Gainesville son by Alan Festo. Alan Festo. Pisano's owner says, it is a quote, evidence clear after Rick Flair asked to leave Gainesville restaurant. WWE legend and hall of famous Rick Flair created quite a stir on social media over the weekend. Okay, now I'd also wait about how much stir do you have to make to get in the newspaper over a
Starting point is 01:01:22 a fucking disagreement at a pizza place. The sad thing is, I'm pretty sure with all of these stories, it always starts off great. Hey, Rick Flares here, he's awesome. He's taking pictures with everyone. I love this guy. Hey, who's knocking on the bathroom door? Get out of the bathroom! Woo! Out of the bathroom! All of a sudden he's there trying to get him out of the bathroom? So what did they say in the newspaper? He bashed at Gainesville restaurant while in town to attend a University of Florida
Starting point is 01:01:51 graduation ceremony. Flair, 75, and family members were dining at the Paisano's stone-fired pizza restaurant, 1250 West University Avenue. Flair must have a big family, but I didn't know he was a Mormon.
Starting point is 01:02:07 When the professional wrestler apparently was asked to leave. He advised his more than two million followers to avoid the restaurant on their next visit the Gainesville. They have the tweet here. Paisano's co-owner, Robert's, when reached Monday by the sun, said, the evidence was clear, but declined to offer an explanation as to why Flair was asked to leave the restaurant.
Starting point is 01:02:32 The evidence of what was clear to who? He then sent a prepared statement via text message, and here's the statement. We have reviewed video of the incident that took place recently at our restaurant. It is clear, our team worked in a professional manner to ensure the same. safety of guests and staff. What the fuck? We have thanked here. What?
Starting point is 01:02:57 We have thanked our team for their professionalism. We are proud of how they responded to the situation using and displaying our team values. What was the situation? What are your values as applies to this situation? Robert says they have no intention on releasing the video. I don't even need to see the video. I just like some motherfucker to tell me what to fuck happen.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Who was locked in the bathroom? Who wouldn't come out of the closet? How is it $1,500 worth of pizzas can be consumed by one family? And how did taking pictures and signing autographs go to, You must leave the premises and never return? There's all kinds of story here. It's being left out. Yeah, there's something going on, and I'm not exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:53 sure what. Again, $1,500 at a pizza place. I've never goddamn made the news for being asked to leave a restaurant or establishment such as that. And one would think that I'm one of the more disagreeable people if you listen to the rumors and the casual conversation. But I don't make the news for these things. You don't make the news for these things. And by the way, no one wants to kick out the guy spending all the money. That's no restaurant's business model is like, hey, we're having a problem, like we're too busy. We got to get rid of the guy spending the money over there. Leave the guy that's tips of servers on their tip and get rid of that guy that's throwing hundreds around.
Starting point is 01:04:41 How can that go so far south so quickly, I wonder? And his family's there? And we need, you know what? bar rescue, John Taffer, needs to get in on this. He needs to follow Flair around to different bars and call it Flares Rescue from bars.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And we'll get to, it's a one-hour television program. Wouldn't it be funny if it was Austin Idol's pizza place? Fantastic. Hey, I think you could live there for a year and a half and not spend $1,500. Well, there's the Rick Flair story. There's a rumor about another
Starting point is 01:05:21 part of this story, but it's unconfirmed as of this moment. Are we allowed to spread clearly labeled as such unconfirmed rumors? Well, Jim, there was another part of this story that's kind of unconfirmed, but if in any way true paints a very interesting
Starting point is 01:05:43 picture of these proceedings. There's a tweet that was sent out. The name seems odd. Freddy Schnertz Is the at Freddy Schnertz Fredrish von Schnertz Is his name on here?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Again, I don't know People do interesting things Well, how in the world do you expect a guy named Schnurz to be a liar? I'm the manager of Paizano's sister location off Archer Mr. Flair was being drunk and disorderly He wooed directly into a blind grandmother's face.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Let me try that again. Wait. He wooed directly into a blind grandmother's face. After being confronted, he picked up furniture and swung it menacingly. What? We love Rick, but he was boogered. He wooed into a blind grandmother's face. Maybe she wanted a picture.
Starting point is 01:06:52 But how would that do her any good if she got a picture? How would she have known to ask? Maybe she said, I've never been able to see you. Can I at least feel your breath? Can you, well, no wonder she's probably snookered now, but can you imagine if you were some blind person and suddenly, without warning, Rick Flair wooed an inch from your face? Well, again, this may or may not have happened, but something happened to Pisano's.
Starting point is 01:07:29 That was so bad they won't release the video, but they're proud of their team for standing up for themselves. How can you dispute the word of Frederick von Schnicklgruber? Somebody's got to pry him out of the bathroom sooner or later. Well, maybe it was the kitchen manager. Where was the other? Where was the house manager? It was the kitchen manager. Yeah, where's the matriety?
Starting point is 01:07:54 prestigious place like Paisanos. Where is the, the, all the other people, besides the kitchen manager, that ought to be dragging somebody out of the bathroom. See, we don't even know. See, that's the thing. Because it's so unwieldily worded. That's the thing. It's either Flair locked himself in the bathroom and they couldn't get him out and it
Starting point is 01:08:12 became an issue. Or the manager was in the bathroom too long and Flair was either waiting to use the bathroom or was so offended by this while sitting down that he got up and said, hey, I spent $1,500 here. for you to use the shitter. Get out of there. I believe that more than a day, because Flair's not going to lock himself in the bathroom
Starting point is 01:08:33 because he's, that would be away from the bar. He's not doing fucking heroin in there. He's fucking drinking. So why would he lock himself away from the bar? But why would the kitchen manager go in the only receptacle? It's available to the fucking, and then why is the manager of the place
Starting point is 01:08:51 in the official statement proud of his team and the way they handled, something that could have been dangerous to the safety of themselves. Flair knocked over monitors screamed you're a clown. This place is a joke and I quit. And the people were scared for their lives. That's the only thing I can figure. You know what causes this whole thing, don't you, Brian?
Starting point is 01:09:18 Vodka and cranberry sauce. Well, no. Well, that could have a contributory. Cranberry juice and cranberry sauce. he's a sick man it's a super duper jello shot folks especially around Thanksgiving you're going to love the
Starting point is 01:09:43 vodka and cranberry sauce you know what you had to go with pizanos and bring that back into my fucking head pizanos his fucking families in there Rick Flares causing an incident and then you know like he didn't go easy That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:10:02 It wasn't like, sir, you have to leave. Okay, fine, I'll just go tweet something. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. But one would have thought somebody in his family could have maybe de-escalated it before it got to that point. Yeah. I mean, they were all in town. They were all in town and there was a lot of pizza.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Just a lot of pizza. Maybe it was a fight over the leftovers. Like, who's taking what? You could have six pies and you can have ten. And that's why I was starting to think Have you ever seen a $50 pizza? No, look, there are like gourmet restaurants In Manhattan where this pizza's that are hundreds of dollars
Starting point is 01:10:43 But like that's like a single pie And again, it's a gourmet restaurant You'd really have to It's not easy to just to get in there At Paizana, I mean again, if the average pie Let's just say it's New York prices and- Well, hold on, we've got to Google Machine, don't we? Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:59 Well, hold on you. We should still be recording. We should. Well, hold, you know what? Turn the tape on and we'll put an extra. Oh, you know what? I never stopped the tape, so we still have all this. Okay. Look you here. We'll edit it somehow.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Okay. Brian, I know the show is over with, but how much these goddamn pizzas go at PISA? Can you, I'm typing this in. It's PIE. I got it. Well, I got locations and hours, uh, menu, uh, order. I get order from Paisano's. Yeah, University Avenue.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I guess this would be the one. You could build your own. own pizza, cheese pizza, classic cheese, or create your own pizza, starting at 849. The cauliflower crust pizza is 1449. Well, now, look, they're in a nice little strip mall. I see the picture of the place. They have, hold on, they have entrees, appetizers, pizzas, calzone, specialty pasta, subs, the average, pitch menu.
Starting point is 01:11:57 The average price appears to be 1899 or less. Well, now also, wait a minute Instead of just pizza now, they have They have rigatoni a la vodka Maybe that was a problem Too much vodka and the rigatoni They do have catering packages Maybe Flair went crazy and was like
Starting point is 01:12:16 Allopackage 5, 6, 7 and 8 Woo! They're expensive $200 for one, $155 for another Well, how much is the $200 fucking buy you because they had to
Starting point is 01:12:35 got eight of those $200 like $200 for instance would be package seven full black
Starting point is 01:12:41 and chicken pasta or how with house or Caesar salad and 40 rolls
Starting point is 01:12:47 40 rolls also for $200 you can get a full chicken carbonera a full
Starting point is 01:12:57 house or Caesar salad and 40 rolls well wait if What is a full chicken? It means like you get the whole chicken, but you get 40 rolls to eat with one fucking chicken?
Starting point is 01:13:09 What is this? Goddain. It says that for everything. Like package three, which is 209. This one's expensive. Full lasagna, house or cheese, house or Caesar salad, 40 rolls. The only one that's different, actually, is for 155, the full chicken parmesan served over spaghetti, full house or Caesar salad, 20 rolls. Oh, only 20 rolls. That's why it's less.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Apparently, they ought to call it carbzanoes. All right. That's why Flaylocked himself in the bathroom. He had to... Jesus. His colon wasn't ready for all this. I'll show you how much pizza I could eat. Woo!
Starting point is 01:13:51 You're rolling my colon. You have any Sicilian! All right, apparently they're open from 11 to 10, folks. 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. down there in Gainesville, Florida. Florida, Pisano's. The bathroom's closed, though. It's a crime scene now. It's taped off.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Wait, wait a minute, hold on here. It's like, the tapes has sanitized for your protection. From the Gainesville son, everything you need to know about the Gainesville restaurant that kicked out Rick Flair. Oh, what's this? Um, yeah, well, he just tells the story.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Apparently, the owner and his wife opened a small walk-up pizza spot in 2000. In 2009, they joined forces with other people to open Paisanos. They added more people to the team, and now they've got four locations. One-ups, one-ups, one's up in Okala. They got the specialty stone-fired pizzas, calzone, sandwiches, wings, more. Oh, so this is actually just an article about the restaurant. that booted Rick Flair out.
Starting point is 01:15:02 You think this is bad? The one in Ocala has Marty Funk Band for Life. Oh, come on now. You mean to tell me she wouldn't come out of the bathroom either? And now there's an article here. Where are these articles popping up from?
Starting point is 01:15:21 This is Gainesville.com. Who is Rick Flair, the person who got booted out of Pisano's? And it again replicates all the stuff that we, uh, that we've written or that we've already talked about happening. Somebody on Twitter said,
Starting point is 01:15:41 imagine you finally get a minute to use the bathroom at work and Rick Flair starts cutting a promo outside the stall, yelling about it. Too long. You finally get in the bathroom. All of a sudden it's like someone's banging on the door. Who is it? It's the nature boy.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Another one said, imagine having irritable bowel syndrome and Rick Flair yelling at you. See, again, the way it's written, it could be the other way. The guy was mad at Rick for spending too much time in the bathroom. See, I don't, I don't know. Apparently, now that the picture was posted of Flair earlier that day with his wife, Wendy Kidder. Wendy Kidder. I've not heard that last name for her.
Starting point is 01:16:27 I thought her name was Wendy Barlow. What happened was Margo Kidder died, so she took her last name. Son of a gun. That must have been it. It's hers now. And they are dressed in blue and announced they were heading to Gainesville. Styling and profiling in Gator Blue, as only we can look, and then we'll be at Paisano's to take a big dump. And then I'll put on the color, whoever else will talk to me.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Woo! Oh, come on now. He's feeling mighty blue after Paisano's. Wait, was, did he- rewarded his kindness with scorn? Was Paisano's before or after the game? That was fairly after the game. Or the graduation?
Starting point is 01:17:05 whatever it was. Game graduation. Gene. It's a graduation. Drive by. Well, you wouldn't go and stuff yourself before an event like that. You'd go there and stuff yourself after an event. So this was the graduation party.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Rick Flair that kicked out of his own graduation party for whoever it was. We're still developing items still coming in. Rick Flair recently expressed his frustration that he was not asking. to be a part of the Who Killed WCW docu series. I don't know if anybody should ask to be a part of that. Yeah, I help kill it. No, yeah, still no plans to release this security video unless... Why not?
Starting point is 01:17:56 Again, Tony Kahn thinks that it might draw some money. Why not? Because there's still a sponsor of the Rick Flair-W-E-W-Dronk, right? Well, Rick-Fleer-W-Dengy sponsors AEW Dynamite. Well, that's what I'm trying to say. So basically they could they could use this video because they're connected.
Starting point is 01:18:16 They're their sponsor as part of this. See, there's a way to own this and make it work. Like, Rick Flair should start a new series where he gets kicked out of different places every week. It just goes to a place and every week it starts off really well. Holy shit, it's Rick Flair. How you doing, buddy? Nice to see you, sir.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Hello, sir. Does the whole nice Rick Flair act. And then like a few years. drinks in, a few pizzas in, he just all of a sudden starts losing it, and next thing you know, he locks himself in the bathroom. At that point then, you know, we download the Draft King's Fantasy Six app because at the start of the program, it's not obvious why he's going to get kicked out. But whoever is the first one to determine why by the end of the program, he will be kicked out,
Starting point is 01:19:13 and state that on draft kings wins huge cash prizes. And the weird statement from like the place was like, it is clear what has happened. Nothing's clear. What happened? Well, I hit that Gainesville son, Pisano's owner says evidence clear. After Rick Flair asked to leave, we worked in a professional manner to ensure the safety of guests and staff.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Everybody was in danger. It sounds like there was a shooter on site. Well, he had a goddamn, apparently it was a hand grenade that was being used as a medallion around his neck, and he threatened to pull the pin. I can't tell what it is. He's helicoptering something around his head. Oh, now, come on. I don't know what it is. You could put somebody's eye out with a thing like that with the sharp point.
Starting point is 01:20:06 All right. Are we still in the show? Well, we ended the show. We ended the show, and then we got the idea that we should go look up and see how much they'd charge for these fucking pizzas. Well, it's pizza night in America now, ladies and gentlemen. We'll wrap it up once. What's your show?
Starting point is 01:20:24 I'll let you wrap it up once again. Okay, bye. Well, Jim, speaking of shave, I'm going to try to shave. I guess not shave, Tom. Just talk about some other things before we get to dynamite. God damn. You used to be such a learned, articulate individual. The podcast industry has broken you.
Starting point is 01:20:45 This is the day that has broken me. This recording today is broken me. But the good thing is, I'm the one that had to crawl on my hands and knees under the desk to unplug and re-plug the modem and the router or the motor and the routum or whichever the things are. You didn't have to do that. Well, Jim, however good or bad your day or my day or the listener's day may be, there's a chance it may be better than the last few days for Rick Flair, the nature boy famous for his feuds,
Starting point is 01:21:15 with Harley Race, the Von Erick's, Dusty Roads, and Pisano's. A story emerged the other day, emerged smiling and laughing. A story emerged the other day because Rick Flair tweeted about it. Otherwise, no one would have known. He divined himself. Rick Flair announced that, I think he had never been as disrespected before because he got into a fight with the manager about the bathroom. and I think he thought it would go the other way
Starting point is 01:21:47 that people would be like, yeah, you can't treat Rick Flair like that. Not that everyone's first reaction would be like, all right, what did Rick do? And we made some guesses. I mean, it was a story that he wooed in a blind grandmother's face. Well, and that we haven't gotten confirmation of that. And as well, I was disappointed because there's video now that's surface. and from the manager's official statement, I thought we were going to see some furniture,
Starting point is 01:22:19 some chairs being swung. There was talk of chairs being wielded in a menacing fashion. There was talk of threat. There wasn't any, at least in what we saw, there wasn't any chairs swinging. There wasn't any face wound of blind people. But there was a, it wasn't even an animated tongue lashing
Starting point is 01:22:41 because I got to be honest, folks, it appeared to the average lady person viewing it that Rick was gassed, he was pickled, he wasn't really yelling or screaming, he was barely articulating, but it wasn't security footage that we saw, it was somebody on the other side of the bar with a camera, just shooting it.
Starting point is 01:23:05 And Rick telling off the, apparently the manager of the whole place, from what I heard apparently now we can narrow it down that the kitchen manager is the one that was taking too long in the bathroom Right, but that is not the man that he's yelling at here
Starting point is 01:23:23 This is... He's yelling at the whole manager or the whole wing dingin' place there. Right. Or the whole pie slinging place. Yeah, it's a pizza pie. Well, the pizza places have wings so they could be wing dingin and pie slinging. But the point is,
Starting point is 01:23:39 poor Rick tweeted as you said he'd never been so disrespected this place he took his whole family he took pictures he signed autographs he spent $1,500 and they kicked him out of the place come to find out
Starting point is 01:23:55 they didn't kick him out they just cut him off and the reason why he spent $1,500 was because he gave the waitress a thousand dollar tip for apparently only to show the manager of the place well, fuck you, she's getting a thousand dollars
Starting point is 01:24:12 and I'm going to call you a dip shit. And now because he brought attention to the incident, he's put out an apology that nobody would have known about this thing that he wouldn't have had to apologize if he had to mention it in the first place. And it explains a little better. I feel there was a logic lapse in that thing.
Starting point is 01:24:33 I'm sorry, go ahead. And, you know, this definitely explains a little bit of the economics behind the $1,500 spent at a pizza place. He still spent 500 apparently and gave out $1,000 originally. And we'll play some audio. But we also know they have a liquor license now. There's no question about that.
Starting point is 01:24:51 So, yeah. Well, that is another one of the big parts that comes out in the video. The manager, Rick went right to in the tweet that everyone saw that he was kicked out, they just cut him off. They didn't kick him out. They just said, we can't serve you anymore. So that's a different story completely. I think it almost appeared he was on propofall.
Starting point is 01:25:14 I think Michael Jackson's doctor would have cut him off. Well, let's see how this comes out. I'm not sure how it will work out on the show here because I'll be saying... This is not professionally shot footage and the audio is somewhat sketched. As a matter of fact, I'm going to tell you this now. I'm going to fucking... Everybody that's interested is going to find this on the internet. And I don't know, is this a TikTok thing that you get closed captioning?
Starting point is 01:25:40 It's captioned at the bottom, or is that something that the person had to do on their own, or is that automatic? I think it probably was automated if I had the guess. Well, it sounds like it or it looked like it, because, like I said, Rick was not enunciating exactly clearly. And at one point, he's telling his waiter, you and I were good. and his waitress, you and I were good. And he said, and then he points at the manager, and he says, and along comes dipshit. But the closed captioning said,
Starting point is 01:26:15 and along comes the Egyptian. And then people were commenting that he was making racist remarks. He's an anti-dipshittite. Yeah, but it was like trying to close captioned Dusty's commentary on the Saturday Night TBS show. years ago. And here's dips shit over
Starting point is 01:26:37 and here's the Egyptian over here where the fuck they couldn't understand him? You know, with all the problems in the Middle East
Starting point is 01:26:44 today, I did not think Rick Flair would speak out about the Egyptians of all people. And here come the Egyptians
Starting point is 01:26:51 to fuck things up totally. Oh, God, damn it. Oh, God. That was so fucking funny. Well, let's see
Starting point is 01:27:02 if we can play any of this. Again, and you can see it. I watch it a few times because I watch it once reading the captions, and then I actually listen to what was said. Here's Rick Flair at Paizano's Gainesville, Florida. Well, I've been there wrong. It says spend money and put this place over and bring my family and friends here.
Starting point is 01:27:24 That is bad for you. Why would it be bad for me? Well, watch social media tomorrow. I don't follow social media. Well, you better. I don't get stuck on my wife. What's your name that job? Nicholas what born?
Starting point is 01:27:39 Nicholas Dickhead. Let me stop it for a second here. Well, Nicholas Dickhead, aka the Egyptian, is having a conversation with Rick Flair right now. Rick Flair is dressed like some magical creature that was drawn on the wall of the pyramids. No, he's actually, he's in his bright blue paisley. the gimmick that he's been wearing
Starting point is 01:28:04 he's at Pisano's he's standing out at Pisano's in Gainesville, Florida a very staid Republican area of the country but that that was when he said watch watch the media tomorrow he was meeting I'm going to tweet and bury you and he was expecting that everybody was going to Yeah see that's the thing Rick doesn't do his own tweets and what was tweeted out also went out on Facebook
Starting point is 01:28:29 So went out a few different places. Whoever manages his social media got a phone call or God forbid a text from an angry Rick saying, I've had it with Pisano's. We got to blast them tomorrow. Let them know who's the boss.
Starting point is 01:28:47 But wait a minute. So you mean he's got somebody doing his tweets for him and they're still capitalizing every word? Yeah, that's some sort of bizarre strategy. Yeah. I thought it was just because you didn't know how to work the thing well let's go back to Rick Flair trying to work the thing over at Paizano's let's call me like that sir don't never talk
Starting point is 01:29:10 you don't have to call me that you don't have to do this to me because you really may be in my family I'm not a meeting I didn't do one thing wrong let me stop it there because there's another thing where the translation's wrong he's saying you don't have to do this and you humiliate me in front of my family. And I guess that means cutting him off? Because again, they didn't kick him out at this point. They only cut him off.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Right? Well, and yeah, it's according to what the guy is telling him, that's the story. But, well, it's a little embarrassing when they have to come and say, yeah, Dad can't have any more fucking cores or whatever the case.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Yeah, I'm here with my entire family. You may notice none of them are here with me right now. They're all in the parking lot. waiting for this to end. Let's go back. I would think somebody in the family would have said maybe it's not worth the consternation, Rick. But go ahead.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Rick Flair at Paizano's. Walk in the room bathroom. And you're a kid I accosted. Really? What world do you live in? No, the same world. What did I cost them? Did I touch him?
Starting point is 01:30:26 Cussing, you said Cust, you know, is that a cuss word against yours? I didn't say one cuss word. So now this goes into whatever the manager heard from the kitchen manager. Yes. About either Rick Flair touched him or cussed him. I think Rick, when he said you cussed my kitchen, cussed my kissinger. When you cussed Kissinger. That's what Nixon frequently said.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Yes. You cussed my kissenter. And often Angie Dickinson as well. But when you cussed my kitchen manager, Rick thought he said you accosted my kitchen. He said, I didn't accost him. They can't understand what each other are saying because of the potential chemical imbalances that are going on in each brain here. Let's go back to Rick Flares confrontation with the Egyptian, Gainesville, Florida,
Starting point is 01:31:24 Paizano's. Let's go. God. No, ma'am, I'm going to give you a thousand dollar tip just to say, to him kiss my ass. You want outside here. You don't have to be this particular. I don't know. You're resurrected me.
Starting point is 01:31:44 How am I used to pick him? Telling me to leave. I'm not telling you to leave, but you're telling you that you're cut off. Oh, I'm cut off and I'm drunk. Really? Yes, sir. Well, let's stop it there, because there's really the bone of contention, I guess. The crux of the matter.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Rick said, you told me to leave? The guy said, we didn't tell you to leave. We told you you're cut off. Well, that may be the same thing is telling him you got to leave. You think I'm here for the pizza? Woo! Yeah. This pizza was a shits.
Starting point is 01:32:13 I just came for the fucking bourbon. The gardenauts tastes like crap. The kamikazis. You're ma'am. You have, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, please give yourself a $1,000 tip. I'll let me do it. $1,000 tip.
Starting point is 01:32:34 This guy and I are so cool. She and I are cool, and long come to a tip ship. I'm not going to be a gypship. I got, I'll say it again, you're a gypshit. You have to get out of here right now. Why I'm leaving? Trust me, I won't come back yet. Come outside here and talk to me like a man.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Well, let's stop it there. Now he's been kicked out. Yeah, now he's, you've got to leave. Well, I'm leaving. You can't fire me. I quit, but now he... And along comes to your ship, shoot. But now, unfortunately, he's said to the guy,
Starting point is 01:33:15 well, come outside and talk to me about this like a man or whatever. And the guy's about to say, and you'll hear it. I'm not going to do that. I'm on the clock. He's not going to go out. fight Rick Flair at a parking lot, but but then one of the other people at the bar, this guy gives, I'll go outside
Starting point is 01:33:30 with you. What did you say to me? This guy's been sitting there at the end of the bar, listen. Again, there are other patrons there. It's not like Rick Flair's the only person there, there are other people at the bar. This guy's six feet away, listening through this whole fucking exchange. And as it's happening, him and one of the other patrons that are next to him, I don't even know if they know each other, but they're looking at each other.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Everyone's like, what the hell's happening here? It looks like an old candid camera where Buster Keaton is doing a bit at the counter. Well, let's go back to this audio. Rick Flair has just challenged a manager or at least asked him to come outside. I'm not going to show that because I'm on the clock. You're on the pussy clock. Let me stop right there.
Starting point is 01:34:09 That's my favorite line. That's my favorite line and the whole thing. I'm on the clock. Yeah, you are. You're on the pussy clock. Hey, you, dipshit. You're on the pussy clock. Well, let's go back to the pussy clock and Rick Flair.
Starting point is 01:34:30 I'll stop. Hey, you want to go out to talk with me in the park? I don't give a shit. No, no, no. Let me. What's that? What's that? No, sir.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Please stop. Let me say to me. What did you say to me? Let me stop it there. So a guy stands up and he says, and I love it. And I love what he says. He goes, you want to go to a park? I'll go to park a lot.
Starting point is 01:34:56 I don't work here. I don't give a shit. And then the voice of reason is coming from the woman saying, don't do that. Is the waitress that's about to get a thousand dollar tip if somebody doesn't beat Rick up first? And she's going, no, no, don't do that. Don't do me. See, that's the endurance test for the staff of these places.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Can we get this guy out of here in one piece before anyone kicks his ass and he doesn't give us this giant tip that he's been promising us for hours. All right, well, he's been challenged. This is almost the end here. Well, that was the guy filming this was asking for more mayonnaiseers. And get a cup of mayonnaise, I don't know what he's saying, just one.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Rick Flair heard everything everyone said until the guy said, I'll go in the Parker out with you, they don't want said us, what did you say? What did you say? What? What did you say to me? Are you addressing me, sir? Again, you know, it's um, he put this out there. No one knew anything about any of this until he decided to, uh, bring his war with Pisano's to the public forum. And now here we are, Rick Flair, the next day. I have an article here from TMZ sports Rick Flair is sharing regret over losing his cool at the Gainesville Pizza Joint over the weekend, saying he should have just walked right out the minute things got heated.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Nates joined the MJ Morning Show on Q105 to share his side of things on Wednesday, and while he does feel bad for how things went down, he also felt he needed to stick up for himself. It just escalated and I was wrong for getting mad, but I kind of felt like I was defending my position. Flair said. Flair also backtrack on his scathing review of the eatery, admitting he enjoyed his time and his meal there, before things went sideways. I was wrong for losing my temper.
Starting point is 01:37:07 When I feel like I'm put in the area where I'm uncomfortable and all of a sudden everything just fell apart, I got upset. I was wrong for getting upset. I probably should have just walked out the door, but it caught me so off guard, because we were having a wonderful time. Then all of a sudden, someone in their kitchen said I did something wrong in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Say that right. Oh, damn it. No. And there's no one there except me in here. Is anybody proofreading this shit? The words somebody said, I did something wrong in the bathroom shouldn't have been fucking issued. God damn to people not following the, the ins of the incident. outs of this case.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Well, his last comment, there's no one there except me and him, so it's a, so he said, he said, that's even worse. God damn it. What are they saying, though? What are they saying? Well, originally the story was that,
Starting point is 01:38:10 that apparently that Rick was yelling at the kitchen manager because he wouldn't get out of the fucking shitter. I don't know. That's what it sounded like, but the way that Rick's apology, it sounded like that it's his word against his, that he was, acted him properly in the bathroom with another man. I'm not sure he's quelling this goddamn controversy.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Can we get... Can we get him a PR fucking team that can tweet and spell and... Remember, I think he has another year left on his AEW deal at least. So we have that to look forward to. Maybe... Well, maybe he can get... get the energy drink into all the Pisano's locations as a settlement on this thing. But, that should be the spin.
Starting point is 01:38:58 This is what happened when I didn't have my energy drink in the morning. And then you show that, and then the next time you show him buying pizzas for everyone and giving out $1,000 tips like he's Oprah. I love Rick. I hate to say. This is not just for Rick Flair, but it's for any celebrity or people in the public eye. don't get fucking inebriated in public
Starting point is 01:39:24 because everybody's got a camera and they want to make you look like a dip shit and if you do have a goddamn public incident whether you were right or wrong you were the inebriated one don't fucking tell people about it because then they'll research it and find out that you were probably
Starting point is 01:39:44 the goddamn Egyptian your own self never been more disrespect in his life the guy worked for Jim Hurd I said, I'm going to cut your hair cut your salary, take your belt but he gave him pizza See, no one ever said Jim Hurd didn't deliver the pizza
Starting point is 01:40:00 They delivered the pizza I'm good fucking connection there See that you can You can find a fucking segue To the pizza thing But well we will stay on top of The Rick Flair Restaurant Review Here on the show
Starting point is 01:40:15 Maybe he'll visit a Cuban place next week We don't know You know I want to get to questions but we have all these things happening and we got to talk about. There's things going on. Let's follow up on AEW Dynamite because a ton of listeners have sent this over. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Apparently Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer have gotten into another one of their spats. Oh, you know, I hate it when you see the folks fight. You know, mom and pop, it's been, it's been so long coming now, the tension in their marriage. And I'm reading now, Meltzer says what, tweeted out some of the, I guess, history of this mindset from November 2020, it's a clip. I'm not going to play this right now.
Starting point is 01:40:55 We'll see if we need to. Alvarez tries to explain to Meltzer that AEW has clearly defined baby faces and heels. Dave disagrees and says it's situational and that Cody said so too. And that Kenny Omega is not portraying a face or a heel. He's portraying a superstar. So with that said, let's go to this audio. We're going to break it up a few times because it's long, You got to hear this. Again, the listeners are pounding us with it. Brian Albrose and Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio. You can see it on their YouTube page, F4W online.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Check this out. You got to see the visuals on this. Let's go to this. I'm talking about Tony Storm. Tony Storm beat Arley Cameron. So the thing with this match was, I mean, first off, like, Tony Storm's back to being a baby face this week, after being a heel last week.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Serena Deeb's on the on the ramp watching on and smiling as Tony's getting beaten down I think she's supposed to be a baby face but she came off as a heel and then it's like Tony Storm is the champion against Harley Cameron and my God it felt like they went forever she's like beat her already it wasn't that long let's stop for a second there I agree with everything he said well yeah that's why don't watch the girls matches because there are some of these because then I would just be saying the same things over and over, but it's not limited to what we're watching. It's also the shit we're skipping.
Starting point is 01:42:25 If I ask you, based on what you've seen, is Tony Storm a baby face or a heel, what would you say? At risk of hijacking the clip here for a second, they had something at the start. With Tony Storm kind of losing it a little bit and having a nervous breakdown and the silent movie star, if they had played that straight and had some restraint
Starting point is 01:42:54 and let her believe it in her mind, but everybody else would roll their eyes and she's nuts, right? And then after she's established that for three or four months, then maybe the understudy wanders into the picture, maybe even just at ringside and maybe following her around, and you tell that story. And I'm not even opposed to Luther. He finally has some
Starting point is 01:43:22 reason to exist. He's a fucking rotten, fucking god-awful wrestler, but as a fucking bald-headed Eric von Stroheim want to be, he fits the fucking suit. You could introduce him and he could believe it, but
Starting point is 01:43:37 within three weeks, everybody was going along with it. Be Mankowitz was putting up with it. And then within a couple weeks after that, here's the understudy and they know, oh, we're going to do it all about Eve. Well, God damn. Betty Davis had been a star on Broadway
Starting point is 01:43:55 in the scope of the picture for 20 years before the other flus he showed up. They just glommed all this together and threw it all out there and now the understudy wrestles more than Tony Storm does. And we don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 01:44:12 is even going on with that because the understudy now is making out with the new Japanese girl that they found somewhere. And the answer to the question, is Tony Storm a baby face or a heel? Quite simply, obviously, what happened, but then it got derailed by the booking, she was a heel. That was the place to start. That was the logic of the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:44:38 But as she would get more goofy and lost in her mind and everything in the black and white era, the fans would kind of start liking it and that would kind of make her a baby face to the fans that was still becoming a heel or was still being a heel and that's where the understudy would come in because then the understudy and you'd have to have Luther by that point
Starting point is 01:45:03 because he'd serve as the agent also or whatever then the understudy would come in and the understudy fucks Tony Storm and it makes Tony Storm the baby face that they've wanted to like all along and puts heat on the understudy now with fucking baldheaded fucking useless Luther and there's six months, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:45:26 A reverse precious, yes, I think so. And I guess would you agree that Serena Dee was presented last week as a baby face? Well, yeah, she has been most of the time that I remember and she's the professor and she's very technically proficient. And last week, she was presented as a deer caught in a fucking headlights. But that wasn't really the plan going in.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Well, let's continue with this audio because it'll come up. Let's go back to Brian Albrose and Dave Meltzer on Tony Storm. At all. How long was it? Let me see. Let me get my... If it's more than two minutes, it was too long. What? I'm starting to like him more and more.
Starting point is 01:46:09 You know, God damn. What if he teams up with fucking Kenny? Olivier, the goddamn world is coming to an end. To push Harley Cameron. They gave... She's had one match prior to this. Tony's the champion. They're trying to build Tony to a match on the pay-per-view in a week
Starting point is 01:46:26 with somebody else. Have Harley beat somebody else. Mariah Matt. What is he, for all Brian Alvarez's faults when it comes to AEW coverage and listening to certain people and repeating certain fucking spins.
Starting point is 01:46:45 When it comes to the booking, he's pointing out all the stuff we all see. You can ignore it. Well, apparently you can because the guy on the other end of the fucking horn there, as they used to say, is ignoring it. Well, let's hear what Dave has to say, but I agree with every single thing
Starting point is 01:47:00 Brian Lephyr. Let's hear what Dave has to stutter. Well, let's see, Tony Storm, they went seven minutes. Seven minutes. I mean, that's a short match for AEW television. I was not a big fan of this. And it was the only women's match on the show.
Starting point is 01:47:16 If they had the only women's match on the show and they went two minutes, I promise you there's going to be so much criticism online. Well, you know what I have to say about online criticism? I would rather book for success than worry about online criticism. I don't care if people are angry that it was only two minutes. I would not have Tony Storm a week before a title defense on pay-per-view going seven minutes back and forth with Harley Cameron, who's had one match. Boom!
Starting point is 01:47:48 It's making a lot of sense. Now we know Dave is hearing this. We know that Dave is getting this information fed to him by someone close to him, rather than an adversarial type of situation. Is he just incapable of the understanding of the same? who looked good in the one match and this was a good match I thought
Starting point is 01:48:15 I mean hardly Cameron for the number of matches she's had is really good they had a very good match Tony Storm instead of doing the gimmick is showing that in fact she's wrestling seriously
Starting point is 01:48:30 what she did in this match and I thought it was very effective who cares whether it's a good match it's not supposed to be they're building to a good match, a good match that people care about. It's like I said earlier, everything in AEW is a competitive squash match. It doesn't matter who the person they're pushing is in there with. It's not about Harley Cameron in this case.
Starting point is 01:48:56 It's about the champion, not being able to beat someone in seven minutes. In this case, that's too long. But in other cases, we see matches go like 10 minutes, 15 minutes. You know what the conclusion is. it's all about just having a great match. The last time... Who's the heel? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:49:15 It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't. Dave, I have seen so many segments with Tony Storm where there is no heat for the interview because nobody cares about the baby face. Guess what she came? Did you watch the segment they did last week? Did you?
Starting point is 01:49:31 Wait, wait, wait, did you in the building when Tony Storm came out and she got cheered like crazy? This match did not have no heat. This match had. plenty of heat. Cameron was the heel. Harley Cameron was heel. Tony Storm was a big time baby thing.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Yes, Dave. And last week, she was a heel. Tony was a heel last week. So whoever they... And Serena was out there doing a sad story about how she almost died. And guess what? And nobody cared.
Starting point is 01:49:57 They booed her. We'll stop in there for a moment. Dave is incapable of really pointing out the flaw with the AEW booking, isn't he? I, you know, it, it makes you stutter and stammer like Dave
Starting point is 01:50:16 at this point to wonder whether that he really can't see what he's saying or what he's not saying or whether it's that he can't figure out an artful way to
Starting point is 01:50:32 deflect it so he just has to disagree with it. It's, he's panicking. He's making a valid point. He's thinking in his head. This guy's making a valid point. And I can't figure out a way to get out of it. So I'm just going to disagree with it, even though it's nonsense to disagree.
Starting point is 01:50:50 He flat out said it didn't matter if she was a heel or a baby face. And Alvarez correctly pointed out she was a heel last week. She's just suddenly a baby face now this week. It doesn't help long-term growth to book like that. Right? No, of course not. And nobody can keep straight from one week to the other whose side they're supposed to be on in this conflict.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Let's go back to what has been titled The Great Tony Storm Debate, Alvarez and Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Radio. So they switched the thing around to follow the crowd. What's wrong with that? Because they didn't switch it. And she will be a heel the next time you see her. It doesn't matter as long as the crowd reacted like crazy.
Starting point is 01:51:40 This is on WW does this constantly. No, they don't. They have baby faces and heels. They have baby faces and heels. Now at this point, Dave is like, you have to see the visual. It's almost like it hit him that Alvarez is right, but he was already ready to fire back with an argument. And he's like, he starts twitching with it, like holding it in. Yeah, he's firing back with an argument.
Starting point is 01:52:02 He just can't figure out what it is. So does AW. except with Tony. And it's situational. It depends on who's wrestling who, on what show. That's not, I mean, they have technically baby face. What's the last show where Drew is a baby face? Drew McIntyre's not.
Starting point is 01:52:19 He's a heel. Okay. What about, what about Bronson Reed and Chad Gable when they wrestle each other? Who's the baby face and who is the heel? Bronson Reed and Chad Gable? Yeah. What match? They should have matched last week.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Chad was the heel. And he is a heel. So Bronson reads the baby face. Is Bronson read the baby face next week? Is he usually the baby face? No, that's what happens. You have situational things and that's what you do. Does that make any sense, situational baby faces and heels?
Starting point is 01:52:54 No, because it's not just switching back while you're interacting with the same pool of people, the side that we're supposed to take as observers, switches from one week to the next week with AEW. With yes, Sarita was supposed to be the sympathetic person and Tony to give a shit, but this week, and blah, blah, blah. In the WWE, yes, you do have heels, wrestling heels, or baby face wrestling baby faces, and sometimes crowd picks aside,
Starting point is 01:53:27 but they're not changing sides with each other as to who you're supposed to support individual people from one week to the next. I'm trying to figure out a way to verbalize that. Let's go back to the man who cited Chad Gable versus Bronson Reed as the great example of this experiment, Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez. Everyone has it because you sometimes make matches where there's a different thing. It's not a big deal.
Starting point is 01:53:54 It's certainly no one here because the match was effective. The match was good. And again, Tony Storm, who has done a lot of the gimmick so heavy for so long that has not shown up shown off her wrestling skill and she's going to do a match with serena db where whatever it is they are going to go out and do a wrestling match so therefore for if sir if um tony storm went and did her tony storm gimmick in serena d on the pay-per-view it would suck so they're basically showing
Starting point is 01:54:24 she's going to wrestle tony storm and they're going to have a good match so that is so we can just let's see is they've explaining it or the offending it. That's the issue. Well, he sounds like he's trying to do both, and that's why people think that he's full of horse shit. But what the point is, is what he's saying there,
Starting point is 01:54:46 if it would be correct then, that goddamn Tony Storm should then go out and completely out wrestle this girl and slap a submission hold on her in about two minutes and blow through her. Look what I'm going to do to Sarita. I've been training. I know all these holes. I know.
Starting point is 01:55:04 the crotch-locked leg strangle and the Guatemalan flying toehold and boom yeah then it would make sense but not she's going to have a great worked wrestling match she's going to fucking take 10 minutes to demonstrate all of the great moves
Starting point is 01:55:20 that she can do in this fake bullshit she's going to do with his other girl yeah really what kind of explanation is that if she's going to go out there in the ring and have a match in k-fabe against this professor in the ring who could dismantle everyone she's going to go out there and show that she can impress people in the ring by going seven minutes with someone who's never wrestled before or once before on TV? Yes, that, yes, that's what he's saying because he's an idiot and he doesn't understand what he's fucking saying.
Starting point is 01:55:46 He doesn't understand the words that are coming out of his own mouth. Well, let's hear more of those words. After the double nothing man. That is what they are, that is what the story is. The story is that she went in there and the crowd cheered her. The crowd knew who the baby face was. The crowd knew who the heel was. They cheer Tony all the time.
Starting point is 01:56:08 But they cheer her every week, even when she's playing the heel role against another baby face. She should always be a baby face. There's no need for her to be a heel. She's never going to get booed. Okay. So can we stop killing all the other baby faces by having her be a heel that everyone loves? Okay. I've never seen anyone do to Dave what Dave does to other people.
Starting point is 01:56:30 like I don't know. Up, up, up, up, up. He just completely steamrolled them. Yeah, and by the way, it also, the only reason why people know that Harley Cameron draws a breath on the face of this big blue marble hurtling through space is because she was the QTV girl.
Starting point is 01:56:50 And if anybody would fucking not want to see any more of anything, it would be on what was on QTV. So, yeah. She's known for QTV and also, being in a feud over gaping. Let's go back to Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer. Okay, but that's the problem. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:07 No. Okay. What is what is what is what is the other thing that Tony Storm? What's the other thing that Tony Storm? She is the world champion. Yes. A real world champion wrestles baby faces and heels. And in that role, depending upon the situation, you are situational.
Starting point is 01:57:25 That's everyone from Luthas to Jack Briscoe to Dory Funk Jr. to Flare to whatever. Let me stop it because that's absurd to compare one to the other. There's to Ganya to flare to Tony Storm.
Starting point is 01:57:38 No, she's not traveling around the world to hostile territories fucking defending the precious A.E.W. Women's World title, one of the women's titles.
Starting point is 01:57:53 Seriously, just Dave, come out and say what I said, encapsulated earlier. She needed to start as a heel, which she did. And if they'd have allowed this to flesh out instead of jumping a shark with it after three weeks, the fans would have liked it, and then she would have had
Starting point is 01:58:10 some way to turn with the understudy and the evil agent or whatever and become a full-fledged baby face. And there would have been some logical progression and story and in the character and the whole, all these other buzzwords, these fucking little fucking tap dancing kids like to fucking say. And instead, they booked it into a goddamn mess like they do everything else and just come out
Starting point is 01:58:36 and say it. No, they're just cheering her because they like her because she's interesting, and that's better than most of the drek that's on this program. But that none of this makes any sense from week to week or has any consistency. Please come out and say that, Uncle Dave. And again, there's a difference in explaining, which is kind of what Alvarez is doing about the way this has all been laid out and reality and defending, which is what Dave is doing.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Dave is defending this booking. Which has led to these numbers. What's like his mother's being held over an open flame if he in any way loses this argument. He can't be wrong. Let's go back to Mr. Wright. What's happening here. What's happening is she is a heel.
Starting point is 01:59:24 She's not a heel. She is portrayed as a girl. She is portrayed as a. a heel. You have to see the video of this, Dave, it's the camera's on him and he gets really mad and he like lunges, he lunges towards the camera. I could be, I could be fearing for my life if I saw that. No, there's a camera. He lunges towards the camera, not at anyone, so you don't have to worry, but he lunges towards the camera. Well, if it was in 3D, well, let's go back to the great argument here. She was a portrait. And they have her opponents. They have her opponents
Starting point is 01:59:54 was not, Dave, this is not portrayed. She was not portrayed as a heel. This is an exception. Harley Cameron is a heel. Harley Cameron is a heel. She was a baby face. Yes. If you watch the show, this is an exception. And guess what? Guess what? And it is a angle that makes sense because Harley Cameron wrestled Mariah May, her protege. And who is portrayed as a baby face? Well, who is a baby face in that match, in that situation. So therefore, she's trying to get revenge for the fact that they beat up Mariah May. And so in that role, she is in fact the baby face. So she was a baby face.
Starting point is 02:00:33 She got cheered. She had a good match. And right. Hold on one second. She had a good match. And we keep hearing that. And also the evil under, all about Eve, whether she was evil or just of a fucking opportunist or whatever, the understudy that's brought in. to do the we kept hearing at the start of this angle
Starting point is 02:00:57 we're doing all about Eve. They had grand delusions. They were Orson Wells. I think they're more like H.G. Wells. This is some science fiction bullshit. But the understudy is supposed to be the fucking catalyst for the heel star of our show, Tony Storm, to become a baby face.
Starting point is 02:01:17 And now the fucking the understudies a baby face first. So does that make any god-dustre? damn sense or are they just redoing all about Eve to make it all about Steve? And again, Dave is vociferously defending this, which is crazy. It's almost like he booked it himself. Let's go back to this. Oh, they had a good wrestling match where she showed that she was wrestling.
Starting point is 02:01:41 There was nothing, I can't find a thing wrong with this at all. Well, we'll discuss this again next Wednesday for the next segment they do with Tony Storm and Serena Deeb. Okay. Because I will predict. But if they go in the match. So if they cheer Tony Storm cool, if they booed Tony Storm cool, they're probably going to cheer. But that's...
Starting point is 02:02:05 Yes, they are going to cheer her. Well, fine. That's fine. What's wrong with that? Because her opponent is being pushed as a baby face. And no one cares about her opponent. And the exact same thing happened with Deanna. Deanna was supposed to be the baby face.
Starting point is 02:02:21 Nobody cared. Okay. Well, if they go out there and go, if the fans don't care, then guess what? It would have been even worse if she was the heel and, um, and Shrine was the baby face, at least in this case. Hold on. I don't understand what that meant. I don't. I've lost it around the far turn.
Starting point is 02:02:43 I, there was, there was a big bush there and they switched places. I don't know what now he is saying. What do you think? think of Alvarez kind of marching on Dave? I mean, everything he's saying, I agree with. Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's saying anything that's out of the bounds of sanity,
Starting point is 02:03:04 reason, or logic. He's making, every point he's made is valid and Dave won't. He will not give up that fucking ground. San Juan Hill is safe. And I think this is actually beyond Dave and Brian arguing about this. The bigger issue is,
Starting point is 02:03:22 this is one of those things with AEW, they need the change. You need baby faces and eels. We've seen the experiment now. You need baby faces and heels. And maybe this is why AEW, unfortunately, is listening to Uncle Dave as he sinks further and further into the root of bega of his brain. And most normal people are forced to think like Alvarez, like normal logical human beings. what is happening. That's why I'm saying it needs to go the other way.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Serena Deeb should be the heel. Tony should be the baby face. Deanna should have been the heel. Tony should have been the baby face. Tony should be the baby face going forward. Okay. That's what should happen. Okay. Then Tony should be the baby face. If the fans, sure. I agree. I agree. Well, we'll see what happens next week when she's the heel and Serena's the baby face. What's what they did last week. But guess what? Serena was not necessarily a baby face when she was out on the ramp. at all. She wasn't today, but she was last week when she's talking about how she almost died. Guess what? She's begging the fans to cheer and they won't. Brian. Yes. That maybe he did it again. Brian. Brian. Brian. Oh, Brian. She almost died. You know what? That used to be.
Starting point is 02:04:44 It reminds me, Stacey on her cell phone. She customized Gary Jester's ringtone. I remember this. Every time Gary Jester would call her cell phone trying to get a hold of me for some emergency, it would be Goldman from Family Guy going, oh my God, I think I just had a miscarriage. Be they learned from last week. Is there a possibility they learned from last week? And that's why they did this, aside from the fact that it all fits into the storyline. Dave, you want to know why I'll say no, there's not a possibility?
Starting point is 02:05:17 Okay. Because three weeks ago, Tony Storm was playing. the baby face role. And I was like, okay, finally they figured it out. Tony's the baby face. The very next week, they switched it again and had Serena D play baby face and talk about how she almost died, begging fans to cheer, and nobody did. Well, guess what? So they learned. Okay. So they learned. So they learned. So they learned. We will figure out next Wednesday when they do another segment. If she's still a baby face. Where were we? Well, it doesn't, I mean, as long as the crowd, look, as long as the crowd's going to react,
Starting point is 02:05:51 act, I don't care who the baby faces or the heel is. In this day and age, the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do. So let's stop. That's a very interesting thing he just said. In this day and age, the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do. Does that mean the booker should give up on trying to push them in certain directions? No, of course not. The crowd is going to do what the crowd's going to do when the crowd gets bored or is scoffing at what they're seeing and is not interested in it or because they're not they can make up more interesting shit amongst themselves
Starting point is 02:06:27 or see more interesting things about a particular talent than it's being presented on the show by the supposed professionals. That's when the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do. Every once in a while you have a personality that they're going to like and they're going to get into something that that person does or the, the monkeys.
Starting point is 02:06:51 Because they took that classic ass weapon and they looked like such nebishes, but they, you know, the people loved him. Or we had an OVW who got him Rod Steele. He was big and tall and kind of bland, but he got a fucking Randy Savage
Starting point is 02:07:08 kind of sparkly, you know, cape outfit, and he would do a big body slam. Because that was the best movie. he had, right? And we'd put him in dark matches and every once in a while he'd make television because I couldn't use him seriously
Starting point is 02:07:26 as part of the developmental program. But the fans in unison, whenever he would body slam somebody, they would scoop slam! It'd be like they're chanting for Cody, right today. So we would have him have a dark match
Starting point is 02:07:42 and let the people see him and he would get to do three or four scoop slams in a row. But that didn't mean that we goddamn then put a belt on him and had him open the show for 40 weeks in a row. The point is
Starting point is 02:07:57 you've got to tell the stories that you want to tell and put your talent, especially your main talent, your key talent, in consistent positions. You can't have
Starting point is 02:08:12 a guy portrayed as foreclosing on the fucking orphanage, over at the shady rest one week in your story, in your program, and then the next week, have him tragically befall a fucking situation from some other heel,
Starting point is 02:08:30 and boy, we should give him our sympathy. Fuck it, it's what he deserved, because last week he foreclosed on the orphanage. You've got to be consistent. You can't have, just because the crowd is going to cheer someone because they like them, does not override the fact that you can't have somebody
Starting point is 02:08:53 being arrested for goddamn aggravated mayhem one week and then be portrayed as a moral saint and a straight-edge character the next week. That's what does it work in any kind of storytelling or any kind of character development or any kind of form of entertainment. You're just telling people,
Starting point is 02:09:15 I can't trust any of these motherfuckers, so I'm disinterested. Well, let's go back. There's a little bit more. Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez arguing on Wrestling Observer Radio. You know, I mean, how many times we went through this whole thing
Starting point is 02:09:29 with John Sina for 10 years? Yeah, and what did we say, Dave? We say, should have gone baby face. John Sina should have stayed baby face. Yeah. And when Roman Rains was getting booed like crazy, we say should have gone heel.
Starting point is 02:09:42 Okay, John Sine would have gone with it. Okay, each time... I never said John Sina should turn heel. I was always against John Cena turning heel because guess what? I think about business. And the business was that John Cena was selling the most tickets and John Cena was selling most merchandise. And if he turned heel, the merchandise sales would go down. And that's why Vince McMahon never turned him.
Starting point is 02:10:05 And when he went to the house shows, he always got cheered. And it was just the TV crowd. And John Cena was the most successful character they had for all those years as he was being booed as a baby face. so it doesn't matter that he was booed as a baby face at all because he was the number one drawing card that they had that entire period except for a brief period i think then i think we pause for a second yes numb nuts everything you just said was true and also during that time john sena was preaching hustle and loyalty and respect and fucking make a wish and positive principles and never say die and never give up and, you know, he was a little negative, you can't see me, but he wasn't flip-flopping between stabbing people into back
Starting point is 02:10:54 and turning on his friends one week and then being that same stand-up person the next week, or he wasn't wrestling opponents that had just come back from serious goddamn open fucking colon surgery or had deaths in a family and was on a comeback tour
Starting point is 02:11:15 and being his opponents weren't portrayed in sympathetic lights. Everybody's point in this morality play was clearly defined and whose side that a normal person would want to be on in the story if you believe the story, which is where they had the kids and the casuals, and the hardcores booed him, because they weren't happy with whatever the fuck. but the kids and the casuals were still buying all the merchandise. They didn't have him come out and say,
Starting point is 02:11:50 well, fuck half the audience then. To react to this, they continued telling the story that made sense. Brian, did I articulate that clearly? Very clearly. I'm sorry. Let's go back to the opposite side of clarity. Dave Mills.
Starting point is 02:12:07 A brief period where Jeff Hardy may have surpassed him. But, you know, it was brief because, you know, didn't, uh, whatever, you know, it didn't sustain and Jeff was Jeff, you know, they, you know, so it does, like the whole point is it's, it doesn't matter who they cheer or boo. You, you, it's, everything is situational. Sometimes fans are going to boo baby faces. And if they do, you know, it kind of sucks when they boo a baby face. So you, that's probably better to turn them. But sometimes, like again, John Cena shows in this case, it's, I've seen so many heels get cheered. And it was, fine, you know? I mean, it's, it's tough for a baby face, but if business is good, then it's,
Starting point is 02:12:49 you know, whatever. Everyone shared the NWO. It was great for a while. At some point, of course, it turned bad, but that was years. It took years. It took years. Three years. They were out of business. And they tried to turn a baby face to begin with. Well, that's the end of that. Jesus Christ. The problem is this is kind of a great way to look at Tony Kahn's mindset. and the justifications he has internally for his booking, because he leans on Dave. And you hear Dave defending this bad booking, trying to compare it to things that worked in the past.
Starting point is 02:13:25 Look at the results. There's no resemblance to anything that's ever been done in the past, much less worked in the past. And again, don't defend things when they're not working. Look at the ratings. Look at the pay-per-view buys. Everything is down, down, down. So it's not the time to defend what's not working.
Starting point is 02:13:44 It's the time to try to say the things out loud to cause them to fix things. And that's not what we got here. Any other thoughts on Dave's defense of Tony Storm's booking and anything else here? Well, no, if they pay Dave per word or partial word, then he's making a ton of money, but he can't form a cogent simile and get to the, point because for one thing he doesn't have a point to get to. Every time you analyze it, unless you go around in circles like he's doing, you come to the conclusion that Alvarez makes a very good point.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Whether in real life or whether in the K-Fabe storyland of the television program or all points in between, yes, the fans are going to cheer for whoever they want to these days because they're all smart to begin with. but there needs to be consistency from one week to the next, or if someone drastically changes their viewpoint or their moral fiber or their demeanor, there needs to be some pivotal point that happens to them that causes that. Or if a man's longtime manager and confidant gets laid out and we never see him again, he probably should refer to him even if to say,
Starting point is 02:15:08 Well, it took me a while to fucking dig the hole, but I finally got rid of that son of a bitch. These type of things. And that's not happening. And Dave is trying to defend it. He can't defend it because it doesn't, it's not even, it's not even good storytelling for smart fans,
Starting point is 02:15:25 much less for people that actually would make this a profitable company comparable to or competitive with the industry leader. He's out of touch with thinking, outside the wrestling bubble. He's stuck in the wrestling bubble and he doesn't realize it. He's in one of the smaller wrestling bubbles too. This goes even past the kind of interested fan that, you know, watches a lot of the TV shows and buys t-shirts.
Starting point is 02:15:53 This is all the way into the, you know, we're paraplegics and can't move so we're stuck on the internet type of wrestling thing. I have some more news from the real world before we get to wrestling because we have so much fun with this stuff. Jim, a few stories. I have this one from the Washington Post here. The four-top singer accuses hospital of racism putting him in a straight jacket. What? Have you been following this story?
Starting point is 02:16:23 No, I have not only have I not been following it, but it has escaped me. And apparently one of the four tops has escaped somewhere. Which one? Well, what's happening? This article's by Leo Sands, and for the record, there is one of the original Four Tops who's still alive, but like a lot of classic Duop groups or Motown groups, they still tour with the one active member, one living member
Starting point is 02:16:48 and replace them. And the rest of them have been replay. Is this sugar pie or honey bunch? I'm not sure, but it's probably a very nice show. He probably has a very nice voice. But here's the article. The lead singer of the Four Tops Motown band is suing a Michigan hospital at Duce. I just saw the story. I'm sorry. and two staff members,
Starting point is 02:17:10 alleging racial discrimination after they wrongfully treated him as if he was mentally ill. What? When he identified himself as a member of the group. Alexander Morris, who is black, said in his lawsuit that staffers at South East Michigan, Ascension McComb, Oakland Hospital.
Starting point is 02:17:33 Now wait, let's make sure where the hate mail goes to the right place. What's the name of this fucking? joint. Michigan's Ascension McComb, Oakland Hospital assumed he was delusional after arriving at the hospital in an ambulance with clear symptoms of cardiac distress. Oh my God. In April 2023.
Starting point is 02:17:54 He's having a heart attack and he tells him that my name is so-and-so, what, he'd have a member of the four tops and they put the heart attack patient a stray jacket? After identifying himself as a member of the four tops, said Marrow. 53, workers denied him medical treatment by removing him from oxygen, and instead ordered him to undergo a psychological evaluation, and placed him in a restraining jacket. After 90 minutes, the singer was released from restraints when he was able to show a video of himself performing at the Grammys to a nurse, the lawsuit alleges. Oh, shit. This is insane, isn't it? What do you think she then said to this guy
Starting point is 02:18:39 in a straight jacket that she's seeing perform as a member of the four tops in Las Vegas. Can you imagine you're having a heart attack? You go to the hospital and I don't know how it comes up. You know, hey sir, tell us a little bit about you, whatever it may be. I'm the lead singer of the four tops
Starting point is 02:18:54 and maybe they, I guess maybe their argument's going to be we didn't know the four tops were still performing. I mean, I don't know what your argument could be, but it shouldn't be lock them up, put him in a straight chat to the straight jack. Well, besides that, I mean, as you mentioned, yes, we know that everybody from, you know, Casey and the Sunshine Band to the Four Tops have changed members, especially the Motown soul groups, because, you know, like if you've got one of them alive in a lot of cases, due to age, it's miraculous they can still perform. And they fill in the, fucking Leonard Skinnerd. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:19:39 So you don't... Bill Haley's Comets. Bill, I've got... I didn't even... I didn't know any of them were still around. I think there may be a comet left. Well, one layer...
Starting point is 02:19:50 Haley's comet. But the point is this isn't racial discrimination as much as is it medical malpractice because even if the guy says I'm fucking
Starting point is 02:20:04 Julius Caesar, and he still having a heart attack? And so maybe that's what, you don't stop treatment because he says, yeah, you know, fucking Rick Finch don't want to go on a road anymore. So Harry Wayne Casey got a whole new band
Starting point is 02:20:22 or whatever the fuck, right? I don't understand. This is medical malpractice. Let me scroll down a little bit. Regardless of what, make sure the guy's not having a heart attack. And then. Yeah, well, he should. Oh, me, Joe, but he's suing for at least 75,000 in damages,
Starting point is 02:20:40 alleging he was misdiagnosed and mistreated because of his race by the hospital, a nurse, and a security guard. And then it says here that when he went in, hospital employees wrongfully assumed he was mentally ill and made the decision or remove him from oxygen and pursue a psychiatric evaluation instead. You know, that's scary that that could happen. It did.
Starting point is 02:21:04 Now, wait, when he came in. that that could happen. When he does it say there in that crack reporting? Well, here you go. When he tried to resolve the mistake by asking to show
Starting point is 02:21:15 identification, the lawsuit alleges, a white security guard told him to quote, sit his black ass down. There you go. There you go. That's why he's going to win. Okay, now it's medical malpractice
Starting point is 02:21:28 and racial discrimination. But how did he arrive there? Did he come in an ambulance? Was he... He was in an ambulance, I believe. After Morris showed a nurse, a video of his performance at the Grammys, the lawsuit said the nurse realized he was a member of the four tops, and the nurse went and got an emergency room doctor, or got the emergency room doctor to inform him. The emergency room doctor returned and said he was canceling the psychological evaluation.
Starting point is 02:21:57 No, he should have taken it himself. The lawsuit said that Morris was ultimately diagnosed with a heart-ish. requiring a potential transplant and pneumonia that he suffered three seizures during the hospital stay. As an apology, Morris said, oh my God. The hospital offered him a $25 gift card for a supermarket, which he declined. I'm so aware of that. It's just so ridiculous. But what was the amount that you just said that he's suing for?
Starting point is 02:22:34 He's suing for at least 75,000 in damages. At least him, who the fuck is advising this fucking guy? Wait a minute. Ladies and gentlemen, if you are ever taken to a hospital and put into a straitjacket instead of receiving medical treatment because you are a famous person, or at least you're somebody that they don't think you are, I know who you can call.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Call Stephen Pee. New to a mud show for two Those are the rest. Boy, howdy, go no further. Then what is this guy's name again? The new top, Brian. What's his name? The lead singer of the four taps.
Starting point is 02:23:40 Four taps. Four tops moat. Maybe I'm going to get locked up. Even Jack Pepper used to tour with the four taps. Alexander Morris. Alexander Morris. Stephen P. New needs to call. you because you are a fucking idiot if you're suing this hospital he's been through a lot it's no 75,000
Starting point is 02:24:00 but you know how much Stephen Pino could get this guy in his sleep in Beckley, West Virginia, much less goddamn. Where is this place located? This was in Michigan. What part of Michigan? The Ascension McComb, Oakland, Oakland, if those are towns, I would presume. Well, I think, I think that's counties. And I think it's around Detroit. Detroit. And my guy, Stephen P. New, Alexander will be the new chief of staff of that hospital if Stephen P. New gets a hold of him or he gets a hold of Stephen P. New. How is that not a multi-million dollar lawsuit? I come in, I've got pneumonia and heart issues, and I come in in an ambulance. And just because I say I'm the lead singer of the four tops, which I really am, and can prove it if you'll shut the
Starting point is 02:24:52 fuck up. You're fucking putting me in a straight jacket. And this is medical malfeasance at its most masterful. This is an open and shut. That's a slam dunk, as they say
Starting point is 02:25:08 in the legal profession. How the fuck, 75th, I'll buy his case for 75,000. I will write him a check right now for $75,000 and buy his case. and I'll hire Stephen P. New, and he'll get me $3 million.
Starting point is 02:25:26 I don't think it works that way. You can't buy and sell these things? No, it's not like a wrestler's contract. Well, shit, as Mama Cornett used to say. The hospital's defense is going to be last week. We had three Smokey Robinson's and two David Ruffins come in. But that Eddie Kendricks, he broke some shit. With his voice, with his high-pitched voice.
Starting point is 02:25:49 Yes, yes, every window in the fucking operating room. is shattered. Stephen Pino. Oh, yes, yes. Well, I think, oh, 87750, Steve is the number for you to call Stephen Alexander. Well, no, don't call him, don't call him Alexander. His name is Stephen. But I'm saying, Alexander, call 87750 Steve to get a hold of Steve to smarten your ass up.
Starting point is 02:26:16 How did you skip right past the idea? Because this is incredulous to me. They gave him a $25 gift card for a $1. supermarket. What the fuck? It was already past the point of... He declined it. He's smartly declined.
Starting point is 02:26:29 Well, yeah, I'm sure he did. Declined up their ass. Their ass became a broken ATM machine and it declined it. What the fuck? How could you... No, this is... I am incensed that this fucker's trying to let him off with 75 grand. There's got to be some punitive issues going on here.
Starting point is 02:26:50 They have got to be punitized. You know what it means to be punitized in court, don't you, Brian? I'm a small town bird lawyer, and I know all the verbiage. When you're punitized on top of the damagedized, that means you get three times the money and in cash. And you get to sleep with the other guy's wife. Again, I don't think any of this. I'm pretty certain none of this is actually what happens.
Starting point is 02:27:17 But Stephen P. New law office.com. Yeah, well, you know, that goes without saying. That wasn't the highlight of the show. No, no. Because then, Brian, I had completely forgotten where Russell Dream came from, what the meaning, the heart and soul behind, wrestle Dream, what I'd forgotten
Starting point is 02:27:44 that it was all a tribute from Antonio Konoki to Antonio Inoki. since they did it last year and I thought they might have the good sense to leave it alone at this point. But no, they returned this year and Tony came out. And I, he was. He's a social moron. You know what I mean? He has no idea how to just, how to be.
Starting point is 02:28:17 But he was just, he was hopping. Well, first he was, he was looking out at the people and he was kind of not really hopping but just kind of vibrating a bit back and forth and then he began screaming and it wasn't like that they were doing the Dominic Mysterio thing where every time he opens his mouth
Starting point is 02:28:40 they're trying to make noise and drown him out they were already half-ass listening right I don't want to scream like he's I can't do it I can't do it I would hurt myself. Thank you, Tacoma! Everyone! And he's holding the mic.
Starting point is 02:28:56 It's not like he's screaming with no mic. No, he's screaming into the mic. While these two very calm children next to him are just standing there. Well, no, wait a minute. First, he came out first and then and started screaming, and then he brought them out to scream at them while not looking at them. He was neither blinking. nor looking at the two people, he said, the grandchildren,
Starting point is 02:29:26 the grandsons of Antonio Inoki. And now I started to think as they walk out next to him and they got the red towels around a neck, and he's giving their names, and I truthfully didn't write their first names down, not disrespecting these teenage young men. But to point is Tony is screaming their names, but he's not looking at him and they're two feet to the left of him. I'm thinking, is he reading the names
Starting point is 02:29:56 from behind the camera but then the whole time that he was screaming at the fans he never looked at these kids once. Did you notice that? I did notice that. He also called Antonio Inoki wrestling's greatest dreamer. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:30:13 Like when he dreamed of taking New Japan's profits and diverting them to other interests that he had. and that sugar cane plant or farm in Brazil. But he dreamed up a lot of creative accounting. But no, so. I also want to honor Hiroshi Shinma, wrestling's greatest scapego! That's where they got the gimmick from. Yeah, from Shinma.
Starting point is 02:30:40 You know what? At that point, the grandkids should have just grabbed the microphone and said, honorable Mr. Shinma was innocent. It was Sayama all along. Sayama, really? Not Sakaguchi, but it's a total swerve. It's Tiger Mass.
Starting point is 02:30:57 It was all his fault. See, once again, we're now, we talk about them narrow casting, but then folks, this is the only way that Brian and I can make it entertaining for ourselves. They should have had Maeda run out there and shoot kick both of the kids. Start a new feud. Face in.
Starting point is 02:31:13 Yeah. But, no, Tony comes out, he screams at the people, he brings out the two grandsons of Antonio Inoki, screams their names, he's neither blinking nor looking at these two people that are right next to him. And then is to an honor of Antonio Onogi, Resoling Greatest Dreamer, the whole big thing,
Starting point is 02:31:35 he's screaming, we want everybody to let's do Antonio Onoki's famous chant. And when he said that, I swear to God the place was so quiet I could hear a black hole turning in outer space nobody knew what the fuck to do
Starting point is 02:31:56 they don't it's been 40 years right the New Japan and never in America was that chant over and no and so but they've anticipated then they may not have anticipated
Starting point is 02:32:08 the dead salads maybe they thought people are going to go yes let's all join in doing this thing that you're going to hopefully tell us how to do. So then they put it up on the screen. And Tony Kahn tries to, or Tony Shavani, I'm sorry, too, is standing there who's introduced this whole thing. He's there to help Tony Kahn lead this chant.
Starting point is 02:32:31 Tony Shavani tries to read it for the people, but it's up there fairly quickly, so Tony's a beat behind, and it's in Japanese. So for people who have never, one would think heard it or seen it written or whatever one time may not be enough
Starting point is 02:32:50 what is it Nietzsche Issa Nita Okay and people are thinking Nissan or Toyota but Ichi Nisenda but it goes by on the screen one time and Tony Shivani reads it and then
Starting point is 02:33:05 this is one of the most awkward segments I've ever seen on Tony Kahn says That's right One more time and it's off the screen and they've gone back to a graphic. And the people are like, oh, wait a minute, what are we supposed to do?
Starting point is 02:33:19 They started to get with it at the end when they realized that they could read it, right? So he calls for it again, it's not there. And he's saying, one more time to Tony, like, can you help? And just then it pops back up. And then Tony's ahead of everybody doing it because he's just all amped up.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Everybody doing it. No one was doing it. The chant. He still, the famous chant. I mean, when he said, let's all do his famous chant, I said to myself, there's no way anyone here is going to know what that is. This could be really awkward, and that it was even more awkward. Because it was him and Chivani leading it and no one doing it.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Tony was even ahead of Tony Chavani. Tony Kahn was even ahead. And then Tony Kahn thanked everybody and people walked away. They were on the stage. And some of them may have walked out of the, the arena as well, but awkward. In Japanese, Anoki's grandchildren said, what the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:21 So last time I do this shit, my grandfather would have walked out. And one kid would look like he was fucking 16. How long has Anoki been gone now? I guess it's only a few years now. Only a few years, but I don't remember how old his children were. Remember there was Simon Anoki? Nochi wasn't his real name, but he was the son-in-law. Yeah, I was going to say he was, by me,
Starting point is 02:34:43 marriage related. So are those Simon Anoki's kids? I guess that's what it could be. Well, at least that way, maybe he didn't have to fly him all the way in from Japan. He could have just brought him up from Los Angeles. That's all, do his famous chant. That's one of the greatest phrases ever for something no one knew what he was going to do. And Chivani, noted New Japan expert Chavani was going to help him lead the chant.
Starting point is 02:35:08 He was probably reading it for the first time. But it was like if somebody had come out there with the moment. microphone and said, okay, everybody in the crowd, let's now chant Socrates's theory in ancient Greek. I thought this segment was so amazing. I was dumbfounded. And I said, there's no way Jim watched a pre-show. I need to find it.
Starting point is 02:35:30 Couldn't find it anywhere on YouTube. Because I was going to send you the link. This is a must-see segment. Tony Con has no idea how to behave in public or how to use a microphone. and then the chant part with Chavani is one of the most awkward moments in the history of wrestling television. And this is still just a pre-show.
Starting point is 02:35:53 This is just the pre-show. It's like if you had two Abbots and no Costello. It was just, it was very strange. That was the one segment on the pay-per-view. I couldn't wait. I was hoping you saw the pre-show and I couldn't wait to hear what you would say about that
Starting point is 02:36:08 because it was stunning, for Tony's disheveled look, the stoicism of the Inoki grandchildren, as this is all happening, Chavani at his frumpiest worst, and no one there knowing this chant, and they pulled back and they get the wide shot just so you can feel the awkwardness. Yes, everybody's like, what do we do? What do we do? And they put the words on the screen that didn't really seem to help, and then Tony wants them to keep going. And the owner of the company saying, let's do it again. and they just play music like it's the Grammys
Starting point is 02:36:43 and they're trying to get them off the stage. Remember when they did it like Sinatra? Lifetime Grammy. Was it the Grammys of the Oscars where they gave Sinatra a Lifetime Award. Oh shit. It was like his last appearance ever on TV, old man Sinatra.
Starting point is 02:36:57 And he comes up and he gives the big speech and they start playing music to get him off the stage. All right. So this is, no, it ain't your program, is it? It's my show. It's the experience, actually. Yes, but you have. Before we get to this Smackdown as our grand finale, you have a couple of things that are making the news as we're sitting here speaking that we needed to discuss or talk about or acknowledge or whatever.
Starting point is 02:37:24 Is that correct? Well, in the last day, because it started while we were recording yesterday, we've just received a bunch of emails about three specific things. Emails and tweets about three specific things. So I thought we should probably address them here. why wait until the drive-thru, which is... There's an outcry from the people, and we need to go ahead and get this done to get these people off our back. That's right.
Starting point is 02:37:48 We want to get these people off our back. So... Well, go ahead and start unloading them. What's first? Well, I don't know how much you saw of this, Jim. Hopefully none. But we were tagged in a bunch of stuff on Twitter, and then... I don't look at it anymore.
Starting point is 02:38:06 Well, the Meltzer said what Twitter account? tweeted out a couple of clips, and they're very interesting, and a lot of people find them quite humorous. It is Brian Alvarez with Vinny, his friend and longtime co-host. Not the one we're thinking of. Which one are you thinking of? Well, either McMahon or Schittstein. Well, no, I said Vinnie, not Vince's.
Starting point is 02:38:31 Well, they used to call Vince McMahon Vinny back in the old days. That's right. And I don't trust anybody who was named Vince. Ben, so Vin Diesel's out of my fucking Christmas card list. Vin, Vincent, Vincent, Vince, any kind of Vinny, any kind of variation of that. All right. Well, the Brian and Vitty show had a review of something from AEW that I'm going to guess as a program we're unaware of.
Starting point is 02:38:57 And then after we hear some of that and we'll talk about that, also Meltzer said what tweeted out with this same clip here. Audio of Brian Alvarez with Dave Meltzer talking about the exact same thing, which is to something we talked about in part one of the show, it's revealing about Dave's relationship with Tony Kahn. So he comes out and talks about their relationship. Who gave who the ring? Well, that's not what they talk about here,
Starting point is 02:39:23 but let's get to this audio. So first, it's Vinnie and Brian and Alvarez has been somewhat verclimped in the past at Uncle Dave because he's having a harder and harder time trying to figure some of his stuff out, and Dave just actually, well, you just don't get it. Alvarez is in the unique position now of applying logic and thought, not just a motion,
Starting point is 02:39:49 to everything with AEW. The big issue is still that he has friends there. He has people that he knows and sources, so, you know, you have to balance what you see versus what people are fucking feeding you. But let's go to this from the Brian and Vinny show, November 10th. We'll stop this along the way and talk about what they're talking about.
Starting point is 02:40:07 Match wears on. And every now and then, Bees is like, ah! And he puts his head in it. He's just conflicted. I'm just like, fuck me, dude. I hate the storyline. Because what the fuck do we know about this story?
Starting point is 02:40:26 As TV viewers, okay? Not people going on social media. Not people on Twitter. What the fuck do we know as viewers about this storyline? Okay? We know that Roddy wants to recruit the beast. Okay, we do know that. We've seen it.
Starting point is 02:40:42 Roddy keeps wanting to recruit the beast. We know that he calls him Frank. Frank? Thankfully, he stopped doing that. But as television viewers, we have no earthly idea why they keep calling the beast mortos, Frank. Wait a bit, stop and stop. Let me stop it here, because we've not seen any of this on dynamite at all. Well, obviously, it's rampage or collision or something, but the point is,
Starting point is 02:41:06 they're calling old rigor mortis Frank would it be like if you called Abdullah the butcher Larry Now it said Brian Albert has said Brian Albert has said that they're trying to recruit him which I guess
Starting point is 02:41:22 would mean into the undisputed kingdom But isn't he a member of the people that Jake Yes Just got from But they were never with Callis But then Callis signed him so he could sell him to Jake That's right
Starting point is 02:41:36 with LFI. Why are they together? LFI know. LFI know. But let's go back to this audio here. I know. Okay. I know that the Beast Mortos joined LFI.
Starting point is 02:41:53 But Dave tells me, apparently getting this from Tony Kahn, that Beast is actually, he's not a full-fledged member. He's like a, he's some fucking, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking?
Starting point is 02:42:08 about. We don't get this. This doesn't count if Tony told you off air. Like, we don't know. He's in LFI, dude. He's not a junior member. He's not on fucking probation. He's a fucking member of LFI.
Starting point is 02:42:21 So, apparently he's conflicted. So wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute again. So now Dave is defending the angles because Tony has explained it to him on the phone at some point, even though nobody said this on the actual television program where people would know? Well, that's the other interesting thing.
Starting point is 02:42:43 If Dave Meltzer and Tony Con were talking, you think they'd be talking about what's going on with Moxley, MJF, Darby, the Bucks, Omega, anything with them, not, oh, right, let's talk about the Roddy Strong Beast Mortos thing. They're, they've gone deep enough in their conversations that it has gotten around to Roderick Strong and Rigger Mortis. Well, let's go back to this rigoring. conversation. Want to be an LFI?
Starting point is 02:43:12 I mean, he did the fist. Does he want to be with Rod? Why would he want to be with Rod? None of this. None of this makes any sense whatsoever. And the guy speaks no English. So like, how do they agree with me? It's just stupid.
Starting point is 02:43:31 He speaks Beast. And, like, Roddy's supposed to be a baby face, but he's being a dick to the beast. But then, like, you want, God, I hate that. this storyline. So here's the story. Am I missing anything? The story of this specific match, Eddard. I got one more thing. Okay. So because, this goes back to the match, forget everything I just talked about, just what we saw on television. So Beast is conflicted throughout the match.
Starting point is 02:43:55 Okay. Well, he's conflicted again at the end, and he gets in it with a jumping knee and pinned. Well, that's the, uh, the first clip. And apparently this is some of the action we're missing on either collision or rampage. I'm not certain. Boy, it sounds. It sounds like, so scintillating, but also now they've got they've got Alvarez about ready to jump off the fucking cliff. They've about run him crazy, trying to understand this shit. By the way, I want to see that match where every time Roddy tries to do anything, the beast doesn't lock up, he just goes, ah!
Starting point is 02:44:26 All right, well. And by the way, he did make a good point and hold on and then we'll get to the rest of it, but he did make a good point that, well, Tavon and Bennett never, even speak and you'd never see them on the main television show except when they're standing around with the group and so we don't know but roddy is the most dickish alleged now baby face that uh along with adam cole who formerly the devil that all four of them want to get on mjf and just beat to piss out of him four on one what baby faces they are well let's now go to another baby face dave melzer speaking with brian alvarez on wrestling observer radio the next day
Starting point is 02:45:09 Now, Alvarez got a little adamant about his displeasure with this thing. Is he going to go full bore on with Dave Meltzer and tell him how he feels about this? And again, it sounds like this had come up before somehow. So here is Wrestling Observer Radio from the 11th of November? So we have another team that is teasing a breakup. Correct. Yeah. Correct.
Starting point is 02:45:37 So wouldn't Ruch and Rousse and Mordos teasing a breakup like later in the show? Well, yes! Okay, now listen. Hold on one second. Yes! He was ready to know. Because as soon as he brought up Mordos, he's like, oh, I'm ready to jump on this shit. Inferiorated the last time you tried to explain this to me.
Starting point is 02:46:01 Yeah. Roderick's strong and the beast Mortos. The beast Mortos is he's just tricking. He's so sad. He can't decide what he wants to do. Roderick Strong says, Beast, we needed you. Where were you when we needed you?
Starting point is 02:46:17 And this beast is conflicted? I'm like, why is this beast conflicted? He's with LFI. Why would we care? Like, why does he want to be with Roderick Strong? We don't know. It's never been explained. They never even explained why he's called Frank.
Starting point is 02:46:32 They just call him Frank. I'm just watching this thing. And because of the story... Well, everyone has a first name. They just don't use it in wrestling all the time. Because this story is... You know, he's a lawyer, too. God, help me.
Starting point is 02:46:47 You know he's a lawyer, right? I don't know he's a lawyer, because they never told us that on television. I'm watching this angle where they presume that I know that he's like, what did you tell me that Tony said? He's like, he's not officially in LFI. He's a... Like a what? He's still being recruited by Roderick Strong in the disputed kingdom.
Starting point is 02:47:06 And he was. He's in LFI. LFI. They're telling him to forget about this guy. So anyway, the Beast is so, like, strict. Let me stop him. He's so fired up here. Let me stop it for a moment. He's going to hurt himself trying to end. And what about Dave? Well, his name is Frank. What the fuck? Everyone has a first name.
Starting point is 02:47:30 Oh. Go tell that to the Crusher. I mean, sometimes people don't have a first name. Yeah. Yeah. Did anybody call the Crusher, Reggie? Hey, Reggie. over here. What the fuck? And he's a lawyer. There's another twist of a beast mortars that we've not picked up on on dynamite, that apparently he's not just a beast, he's also a beast attorney.
Starting point is 02:47:54 Mayhead, do you think he's a small town, small town buffalo attorney? Well, let's go back to this, uh, the remaining seconds of this scintillating conversation. I reckon with remorse or whatever that they have basically a shitty match. Actually, I thought the match was pretty good. Bro, by Rotary Strong Beast Morto standards, they could have a match 500 times better than this. They could have had a better match.
Starting point is 02:48:16 The whole match is Beasts going, oh, he can't decide what he wants to do. I'm like, I know what I want you to do. Beat this guy's ass, and then he'll make a big comeback. He was, he was beating his ass. I mean, he was going pretty hard on him. You know, which to me made no sense. It's like, you know, like,
Starting point is 02:48:31 that's animal crew. He wants to be his group, why you're beating his ass so bad? Yeah, you want to be on our team, and then you have a, well, You don't, you know, let's have a match. Like, wait, if you were agreeing him, why you wouldn't have a match with him? I didn't like this match. Too much, too much rigmarole.
Starting point is 02:48:47 I don't like the match. We're supposed to be in the middle of something with Roderichs. Well, that's the end of that there. Yeah, what a way to get, hey, I'm going to kick the shit out of you until you agree to join our group. What? How does this come up in conversation between Dave and Tony? You know, could it have been about 3 o'clock in a morning? and they're still anxious to talk more wrestling.
Starting point is 02:49:12 And Dave said, you know, I was trying to explain to Brian Alvarez about this important angle you're doing with rigor mortis and Roddy Strong. And Tony took about 45 minutes to fill him in. Yeah, maybe that's it. Who? Dave's maybe contributing ideas to this wonderful program. Who knows? Well, he seems to understand it better than the,
Starting point is 02:49:36 not only the general population and all, all the viewers, but the reporters that are trying to cover it. So he must have some input in that. Maybe that's, maybe Dave's book and Rampage. You know, it's important to note, Rampage of Collision have seen their numbers crater. We've heard multiple times in the last few months. I mean, you tell me, I'm wrong, the lowest number in the show's history. Yeah, I mean, we don't even, because, I mean, why we could, you know, cover Ragtown
Starting point is 02:50:07 championship wrestling in Bay Point, Mississippi, but, you know, we have to stick to the main things that at least most of the people see, but they're down in the 100-something thousands in primetime on on poor old TBS or TNT, whichever one, these fucking things are on. Should MJF reach out to the Beast Mortos? Well, it seems like everybody else is. He's the most popular son of a bitch around. everybody wants him. Where's Jake?
Starting point is 02:50:40 He got sold a bill of goods, didn't he? What the hell was that? What was that? He got three wrestlers. He's never been with ever again. Well, but here's the thing. We hadn't seen him in what two years on television. And he shows up as the manager of record of Lance Archer to trade him to Don Callis
Starting point is 02:51:03 in exchange for these three Mexican fellows that, Don Callis never had anything to do with, right? And then we've seen the Mexican fellows, but we've never seen Jake again. Well, we will stay up to date on this story and follow up with any appropriate measures or... Call some kind of state home for these people. I think that's the appropriate follow-up. There's child protective services. Is there a podcaster protective services that we could call for the way poor Brian Alvarez is being treated over there?
Starting point is 02:51:45 We said it a while back. He was going to come to the dark side. He was going to start saying the truth and realizing it, and he has. A lot of that language sounds familiar. Did you hear the latest about Kota Abushi? I saw something on Twitter that people were trying to argue whether he had a staff infection, a band-aid, or a giant pimple on his shoulder. Whatever it was, it didn't look like it should be something that someone should have rolling around on a canvas.
Starting point is 02:52:11 Yes. Unlike WWE, I don't know if the promotion there was going to change the canvas in between every match. But I have an article here, and a couple people sent this to me. It's from Tokyo Sports, actually. Marvelous! Koda Ibushi in heated battle at Nagayo's 60th birthday festival. That's Chigasin Nagayo. It's not strange that his injured,
Starting point is 02:52:35 right leg could end at any time. Now, this is translated, of course. Apparently. There's a few interesting key points. Partially, this is the partial translation, ladies and gentlemen. Once again, Kodabushi, who's signed to AEW. Kodabushi 42, affiliated with the U.S.A.E.W, celebrated the memorial of the charismatic Chigasinigayo, 59, of the women's professional wrestling group Marvelous.
Starting point is 02:53:03 Marvelous. You look marvelous. He participated in Nagayo's 60th birthday festival at Carican Hall to celebrate her 60th. I just thought it just said she was 59. Maybe they, well, let me finish. To celebrate her 60th birthday on the eighth day of this month. He teamed up with Takumi Iroha and Leo Asaka to face Nagayo, Masato Tanaka, and Titus Alexander. Wait a minute, hold back up now.
Starting point is 02:53:37 Chikusa Nagayo is a 60-year-old woman wrestler. Yeah, she started when you started. And she's in a six-person tag match against three guys with two guys as partners? Well, one of them, I'm guessing, I don't know who Takumi Iroha is. Maybe that's the woman on the side with Coda and Leo Isaka. But after 10 minutes into the match, Ibushi finally faced Nagayo. And they glared at each other for a while. Yes, because one is a 60-year-old fucking woman, and the other one has just had both of his feet amputated.
Starting point is 02:54:19 While the two finally approached each other, they put their foreheads together and engaged in back-in-forth shop battle. After that, Ibushie received a knee kick from Nagayo and was tightened up with, with an Achilles tendon hold, causing him to writhe in agony. Still, after 15 minutes, Abushi hit Titus with a dragon suplex to gain the momentum, and finally hit Titus with a Kamagoii for the three count. What was that? Abushi said this was...
Starting point is 02:54:57 Wait, but the kamagoy, is that a blunt instrument of some kind, or what hit him with the fucking Billy Club? Ebushi said that this was her second time competing in a woman's group. Wait a minute. I'm guessing. This was her second... I get translation. I'm guessing something is lost here in the translation.
Starting point is 02:55:16 Yeah, apparently, you know, that's the problem. And people won't admit that the whole Japanese wrestling scene gets lost in the translation over here. Ibushi said this was her second time competing in a woman's group, the only time being the stardom Ryugo tournament in April 29, 2013. where Ayaka made her debut. When asked why she decided to participate, again, I mean he, the translator, Ebushi said, There's a quote.
Starting point is 02:55:45 Oh, no, take it the way you want. Here's a translated quote. AEW will be issuing visas again from next year, but I feel like the Japanese pro wrestling world is somehow declining, so I want to help lift it up. That's why I'm doing everything for free. By having a fucking match with a 60-year-old woman? That's why I'm doing everything for free this time.
Starting point is 02:56:07 What? That's the reason, not because Tony's paying you. Wait, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'll stop here, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nobody can fuck Tony like that, son of a bitch. Nobody can fuck Tony like this guy.
Starting point is 02:56:31 this guy signed a contract with AW because he's best friends with Kenny Olivier and so Tony signs him up for at the time it was repose certainly it was a million dollars a year one million dollars but a lot of fucking money and when he's Tony signs the guy he promptly goes out
Starting point is 02:56:58 and breaks or blows out the tendons and ligaments in or whatever he did a variety of things, both of his fucking feet. On someone else's show. On someone else's show. On shows in Japan. And he never actually starts the official work for the official contract that he signed. And Tony has paid him to go have double ankle surgeries and recuperate or retuperate
Starting point is 02:57:25 or vituperate all this time. And now he's telling him. people that he's going to work in Japan for free to help their business over there. And why not? Because his sucker in America is sending him more money that he'd make there to begin with. To do nothing! Tony Abushi wants to know if you're okay with him working a big retirement show, a big anniversary show. Oh, who is it?
Starting point is 02:57:51 Tenru retired a few years ago, and Muda's not wrestling. Chigasana Gayao. Well, let me go back to the article here, Jim. He injured his right leg when he faced. Marifuchi at Noah Ariaki on January 2nd this year. He was diagnosed with complex damage to the lateral ligaments of the right ankle, accompanied by a rupture of the right tibiofibular, ligament. Ligermint!
Starting point is 02:58:17 Ligament! Although he returned to the ring at Gleet, that's a promotion. He returned to the ring at Gleet in July. That's a noise that they make when the refrigerator jacks gives him the bonsai drop, glee. Although he returned to the ring at Gleet in July. I just can't hear that. He is not yet in perfect condition.
Starting point is 02:58:41 Oh, you think? Because he's 40-something years old. 42, and just when you think marvelous is the worst name for promotion, Gleet! Here's a quote from Mabushi to wrap this up. My legs are at their limit, and it could end at any time. Hot! I wanted to keep going before I can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 02:59:08 So I decided to compete today. I'm really at the limit, but I wanted to contribute to the world of professional wrestling before I end my career. So I'm currently appearing at various places. I'm coming to see somebody hit the wall. My fucking legs could break off and sting up my ass. at any given point, people, so get your tickets now.
Starting point is 02:59:35 It's a hell of a selling point. Well, today be the day, his legs fall off. Find out. Splaid out, flipping and flopping in a breeze. That's when you'll know that I, but no mention of ending his career. Where are the guys paying him the million dollars? The best way to get people to forget your legs about to fall off
Starting point is 02:59:56 is have a big gaping wound on your back with all these pictures I've seen. How the fuck is he wrestling with that? That's what Oh god damn This guy Maybe the dumbest human being on the planet Before Before we started talking about his
Starting point is 03:00:14 goddamn dramatic situation With his amputated legs You were talking about the giant carbuncle That no there's pictures Still frames of him in this video Where again some people said Oh it was a band-aid that was flopping around on his back But it looked
Starting point is 03:00:31 I've had a lot of band-aids in my life. I've never seen a band-aid that looked like that. It looked like some kind of giant. Imagine a Zit that had reached the proportion of a fucking billiard ball. Yeah, the next new company over there, pro wrestling, Mercer. But the thing is, if it was what it looked like, I can't see how that it wouldn't have just popped. And it was, because I think it would have put somebody's eye out. or some kind of goddamn tumor or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 03:01:06 but you would have thought that if it was as bad and here's what I was going to say under normal circumstances with normal people you would have thought that if it was as bad as what it looked like that he would have been all taped up with a variety of that because they taped their own shoulders up just to support the muscles how about to cover up a disgusting, repugnant, gaping,
Starting point is 03:01:30 fucking wound of some description. That's what I was going to say, but he might not be normal. What are he laughing at? Quote of the year is definitely my legs are at their limit and it can end at any time. Gleet. You know what? I've limited days left. They need to buy that company and book the whole thing to oppose Jay Uso.
Starting point is 03:01:58 Yeet versus glee. Yeat versus glee. Yeat, glee, glee, yeet, yeat, yeat, yeat. They could go ahead and finish. You know, the idea, I only have so many matches left in me, so I better go work this six-man match, a Carican Hall for Gleet against Chigas and Nagayo. Yes.
Starting point is 03:02:13 It's lucky he wasn't Dump Matsumoto that Mercer pimple would have, uh, ooh. Oh, uh, but anyway, were we talking about... You know what? You were talking about the... You were reviewing Nakamura, and we talked about him compared to some of the other Japanese wrestlers that ended up here in America in the last few years with AEW. and again, Abushi was built up, looked good in WWE for that cruiserweight tournament
Starting point is 03:02:36 when he was still in shape, showed up again completely out of shape, and everything he did looked like shit after they built him up. And then every fan of his was like, oh, well, that was, you know, one-time jitters. He's never been in a cage before, whatever the fucking excuses were.
Starting point is 03:02:51 And then every time you saw him after that, everything he did looked like someone in slow motion, nothing looked good. Well, remember when he and Kenny couldn't even hit their double, backflip, moonsault run to the turnbuckle thing. I put that backwards, I guess, but who gives a shit? Where Kitty had already have landed on the guy, and he's still trying to clear the top rope over on the other side.
Starting point is 03:03:16 And then he went back home to Japan and blew up both of his legs. Yes. I mean, it's incredible. It's just incredible. Like a guy that did the grasshopper backward knee bend on Twitter a number of years ago. And now he's being paid to go work small indie. shows and spread his staff infection wherever he can. Well,
Starting point is 03:03:36 maybe he'll be on Texas Stadium. All the best to Chigusa. I hope you enjoy your retirement. She probably came back to his late. What the fuck has happened to the business? All right. That means it's time to move on. So.
Starting point is 03:03:56 Now it's just moving on music. Moving on. Moving right along with the, of course, the theme to the great Brian last. Jim, let's get some more questions here before we wrap things up. Here's a question that was sent via the Culticornev Facebook group from Joe Morris. Where do all the dead birds go?
Starting point is 03:04:18 Billions upon billions of birds in the world. Shake a tree and they'll be there. Look in the sky, likely too. Where do all the dead birds go? So, Jim, you're Mr. Nature. What are your thoughts on this question? They go, they fall down and go boom. You've never
Starting point is 03:04:39 What's his name Joe? Joe has never Walk along and seen a bird laying on the ground. It happens. Most of the time they probably drift into unoccupied areas of
Starting point is 03:04:52 of the world. But yeah, you can walk around out in the woods and you'll see a dead bird every so often. So it happens. But then they don't stay there long because then you got your turkey buzzer,
Starting point is 03:05:07 and your vultures and your other big birds, haven't you ever seen, Brian? Well, you got, every time you see roadkill up there in New Jersey, there's birds eating on it, right? Not every time, sometimes. I mean, usually it's by the side of the road. That's where you see the dead. Well, it's fresh bird.
Starting point is 03:05:25 If it's in the middle of the road, the birds aren't stupid. That's why the thing got dead because it was in the middle of the road. But on the side of the road or out in the fucking yard or whatever, the big birds are going to come down and eat the little bird. the big birds have come down and eat a fucking rabbit oh i found a rabbit last summer part of a rabbit
Starting point is 03:05:44 out in the yard that after it had been somebody's dinner but uh which part it's it well there was various parts of it but a lot of parts were missing you couldn't really have reassembled anything but it's it's part of the cycle of life that's what happens Harley found these moles I've got. Ever since they started putting a subdivision in across the road from me, they ran the moles from that 26 acres all over on this side of the road, and now I've got moles everywhere. And I'm always tamping down mole runs while I'm walking Harley.
Starting point is 03:06:24 But she found one of them last summer. Again, it was just with its feet up on its back in a mulch bed, laying there deader than four o'clock, deader than Kelsey's nuts and I don't know what happened to it but something happened and then it wasn't there the next day because something came along and ate it
Starting point is 03:06:45 it's the cycle of life so in conclusion Jim where do dead birds go in bigger live bird's stomachs or Tidgely raccoons or minks or coyotes or things in such of that nature. Jim, let me get a few more topics and questions here this week.
Starting point is 03:07:08 This was sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com by Les Winslow. These are the Korean Wrestling Awards. Now, I'm sorry, what? Well, specifically the South Korean Pro Wrestling Forum Awards. I guess there's a forum for the South Korean pro wrestling community. Well, no, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Now, narrow this down. Is it a forum for South Korean pro wrestlers or a forum of wrestling fans in South Korea who are watching?
Starting point is 03:07:44 Do they have pro wrestling in South Korea? What the fuck is going on here? I'm not sure. I've attached translator results for both best and worst. If you're curious how South Korean internet marks think of the current American product. Okay, well, there we go. So it's the South Korean fans. viewing the American product.
Starting point is 03:08:05 Yes, I am curious. I have the best and worst list. Do you want the best of everything or the worst of everything? Give me, let's see what they consider the best. Best male wrestler Cody Rhodes. Okay. It's not shocking. I'm just, that's not a shocking thing to say.
Starting point is 03:08:23 Best female wrestler, Liv Morgan. I agree less, but they haven't gone off the beam too far. Best team of the year. Solo Sacoa's bloodline Well, not technically a tag team It's a group, but you know, okay Best heel of the year, solo Sacoa
Starting point is 03:08:44 They're liking the bloodline over there a lot, aren't they? I don't know if I wouldn't talk about Drew McIntyre or someone of that nature, but again. Best baby face, best worker, and best champion of the year, Cody Rhodes. They really like Cody. Best match of the year,
Starting point is 03:09:09 Roman Rades versus Cody Rhodes. WrestleMania 40. Best moment of the year, Cody Rhodes finishes the story. Okay, did Dusty ever do a South Korean tour? Best segment of the year, Rock and Roman and Cody and Seth at WrestleMania 40 kickoff.
Starting point is 03:09:27 Okay. But here's some other ones. Feud of the year, best few to the year, CM Punk Drew McIntyre. Can't argue with that, really. Best catchphrase of the year. I believe in Joe Hendry. Okay, that one came out of fucking sideways,
Starting point is 03:09:44 but, well, I guess there you go. But maybe do the South Korean fans know more about American wrestling than the American wrestling fans that pick Makkah Shaka-Bobbi for the best wrestler? Well, this is not an outrageous list so far. Best Newcomer of the Year Jacob Fatu, best mic worker, CM Punk. Boom.
Starting point is 03:10:07 Best non-wrestler Paul Levick. Can Tony Khan get the South Koreans to book his program? Well, that's, I mean, it keeps going on from there. Let's go to the worst list. Besides a little Cody favoritism, you know, you can't argue with a lot of that. Worst male wrestler John Moxley. Oh, God damn. They are more intense.
Starting point is 03:10:30 Then the American fans. Worst female wrestler Mercedes Monet. Booh. What in the world? Worst tag team of the year, the Young Bucks. Worst baby face of the year, John Moxley. Worst heel of the year, John Moxley. Worst champion of the year, IWGP champion, John Moxley.
Starting point is 03:10:52 Worst worker of the year, John Moxley. Worst match of the year, Jimmy versus Jay Uso, WrestleMania. You hated that match, so you can't disagree there. I hated it, but I wish Moxley had gotten a clean sweep. Worst moment of the year, John Moxley choking Brian Danielson with a plastic bag. Worst feud of the year, Brian Danielson versus John Moxley. Worst catchphrase of the year. Death Jitsu.
Starting point is 03:11:20 John Moxley. Worst newcomer, Kazushka Okada. Worst Mike Worker of the year, Kazushka Okada. Worst non-wrestler of the year, Tony Kahn, most overrated of the year, John Moxley, most underrated of the year, Chad Gable, the, I don't know what this means, Christian Awards, Chad Gable dead from Wyatt's sixth debut, I don't know what that means. Worst move of the year? Is it because Christian is always talking about people's fathers being dead?
Starting point is 03:11:55 Oh, maybe. Something like that, maybe the translator didn't. Worst move of the year, John Moxley's sleeper hold, worst gimmick of the year, John Moxley. Worst news of the year, A.W. releases all-in London security footage. Worst theme of the year, It's Our Moment, DIY's theme song. Worst brand of the year, AEW. Worst event of the year, AEW. Russell Dream 2024.
Starting point is 03:12:24 Featuring John Moxley. Worst part-time wrestler of the year, Adam Cope, Cope. Hoopland, worst Booker of the year, Tony Kahn. Worst main event of the year, Brian Danielson versus John Moxley, Russell Dream, worst face turn, Adam Cole, worst heel turn, John Moxley. Batch of the year, Adam Page sneaks out early during Jay White versus Christian Cage on Dynamite,
Starting point is 03:12:49 and finally, worst entrance, John Moxley. John Moxley. So what are your thoughts on the popularity of John Moxley in South Korea? John, more importantly, what do you think about your popularity? I don't have any witty comebacks because I didn't know I was going to sweep the fucking awards. I'd like to thank Tony. I'd like to thank Paxongnam. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:13:17 For representing me in Korea. You know, they have a better handle on the wrestling business than the American fans do, unfortunately, over there in South Korea. Are these Leo Garibaldi's grandchildren or something? It does make you wonder about the international thoughts of non-WWE wrestling. You know, there's a lot of parts of the world where either their first exposure to wrestling or the first wrestling that looked Major League was WW, and it still is. If they're watching AEW and then you're watching a spectacle of WW, again, it shouldn't be a surprise.
Starting point is 03:13:57 they're basically voting the same way, if this is real, and I have any reason to doubt it, because apparently other people have sent it too. They're voting the same way a lot of people here in the States would. Boy, I'll tell you what, they love them some Cody and they don't like no Moxley. Well, there are the South Korean Wrestling Awards for... Worst lunch, anything John Moxley eats.
Starting point is 03:14:21 They love Cody, they hate Moxley. Worst illness. Anything Moxley has. A bunch of the listeners have sent over several different articles from different places, all centered around. And they open one of these. Action Bronson. I don't know if you remember Action Bronson. Wait, Action Bronson was one of the celebrities that they had do a match in AEW at one point.
Starting point is 03:14:51 Well, he does hook's theme music. Okay. Entrance music, theme music, like he's Batman. Yeah. His entrance music. Well, he's got a hook signal. That's right. But he did the hooks in the song.
Starting point is 03:15:04 That's right. And he was the one, he was bigger than all the boys. And it handled himself pretty well, from what I remember. And that was a local show, local. I mean, it was a New York show and he's a New York guy. Here's some quotes. He was on the Ariel Hawani show. That's usually where trouble starts.
Starting point is 03:15:24 Every time someone's on that show. Here's the question. Quote, asked if he wanted another match. He was dismissive. And then he said, you know what they do? They don't call you back. I never got called back. There was an angle there.
Starting point is 03:15:39 I'm ready right now. I'm ready for whoever. Oh, my God. Ariel asked him. No, what he thinks he can come in and be a contender. Hurry, Ariel asked him if he liked being backsage at AEW. At first he said yes, and then here's what he said. Actually, no.
Starting point is 03:15:58 I enjoy the act. I don't like the... The backstage is weird over there. It's just weird. It was just like everyone's clicky. You could tell it was weird vibes. So... Wow, even the novices can kind of pick up on this shit.
Starting point is 03:16:21 If you have a celebrity, and we've seen this time after time in just the last few years alone with WWA, if you have a celebrity, that really wants to be a part of it. You end up using them. It kind of works. They're over. And they're willing to do more. And they set up an angle?
Starting point is 03:16:40 You don't call them, you ghost them too? Well, well, but hold on. Like they're jelly and a teller? But hold on here now because this guy also sounds like he's there. Well, I'll go in there and, you know, I could have a pay-per-view match with so-and-so. We don't know how he was to deal with. And I'm not trying to defend by any means the talent management skills and et cetera of the AEW company as a whole over there. But does this guy sound like, does he realize it was kind of a gift because he's a celebrity?
Starting point is 03:17:14 Or does he think he's ready to be a championship rassler? I don't know. But again, bad bunny. Yeah, but I remember bad buddy being better than bad Bronson. But we didn't know that. You know what I mean? That's a case of someone who was a wrestling fan and WWE embraced it and he ended up really involved for a while there. I'm sure he'll be back at some point.
Starting point is 03:17:34 But you can tell. You can not only if you work the guy out just to see where he's at physically, but attitude-wise and the way he... But you've got to have a professional organization in place before you can expect the amateurs to come in and understand what the protocol is. I have some things here from the Observer website article on this, but there's no actual quote. In his lone match in September 2020
Starting point is 03:17:59 as part of Rampage Grand Slam, it wasn't even on Dynamite. On Rampage Grand Slam, he teamed with Hook against Matt Menard and Angelo Parker. During the interview at Ariel Hawani, he intimated, he wanted to do more in the match,
Starting point is 03:18:17 but that his opponents didn't want to take some of his offense like a top rope splash. Oh, okay. Or a face buster. Oh, yeah. Well, hey, come on, bust my face, Bronson. See, that's what I'm talking about these. Because it's such a hey, kids, let's put on a show atmosphere.
Starting point is 03:18:39 These people think they can come in, and I'll do this and that because it's all, you know. And I'm sorry, but a lot of guys, even some of these guys from the Indies don't want a 280-pound fat fuck that's never wrestled before to jump off the top rope on their fucking body. Well, Bronson, a big wrestling fan, said he trained for eight weeks. I'm sure he is. Said he trained for eight weeks for the match at Arthur Ashe Stadium in Queens, New York, with Taz and Hook. Okay. And by the way, guys used to train longer than eight weeks in OVW to get on the show at the flea market.
Starting point is 03:19:14 And this guy trained for eight weeks to be at the Arthur Ashe Stadium on television. He said he was in the ring for two to three days a week, and he was training on the off days. MJF even showed up on some days. He 100% wants to wrestle again, and that if he gets the call for a big show, he's there. How old is this guy? He also intimated he would wrestle for WWE
Starting point is 03:19:38 and mention fellow musician and occasional WWE wrestler Bad Bunny as an opponent. Okay, so maybe this guy's just said to us own angles whole over the place. That's what I'm saying. Bunny versus Bronson, book it now, baby. I don't know. I get gas from all these people. Did you ever have that happen to you? You leaned in a little bit to someone who was a local celebrity or just a celebrity or
Starting point is 03:20:03 anyone like that and they got too close, they wouldn't leave? You know what I mean? Yes. Yes. There was one here in Louisville. There was an attorney that was the son of an actually well thought of attorney, but the son was nuts. But he had a sheriff's deputy or he was some blonde.
Starting point is 03:20:24 enforcement official. I don't want to misquote it now. That had kind of, I think, had some intimate knowledge of wrestling on a limited basis and, oh, this guy can sell a bunch of tickets and we could do this and that because the lawyer was a mark two
Starting point is 03:20:40 so I put them on a show and they wanted to the lawyer wanted to tackle the cop afterwards and do something. I said, no, you can't do anything to look like shit. Don't. So he did it anyway. And it looked like shit. he tackled the guy and fell off him and they did some phony ass bullshit when he got back i was screaming
Starting point is 03:21:00 cussing at him and he was standing there slack jawed like i can't believe somebody's talking to me this way i said you fucking idiot you fucking exposed to the goddamn entire business we said don't do anything physical what the fuck i said i'm gonna i'm gonna walk over here when i come back don't be here i'm gonna fucking kill you and i turn around and left i think one of the boys said i think he's serious And he got mad and fucking left. But the guy, and the cop wasn't a bargain because he had his own entrance music on a cassette or a CD, whatever the format was then, years ago. He brought it in and even had a voiceover on the entrance music. What?
Starting point is 03:21:41 He is here. He has arrived. Officer Yancey. I've kept this. I kept this CD. He is the law enforcement officer of the year. and he served on this thing and he is he is here and he has arrived and god damn it i'm like we sold 250 tickets but fuck anyway that was that was that yeah what was your question i'm sorry he has
Starting point is 03:22:11 arrived got me he has arrived and he is here he did both he arrived and got here uh my question was about guys who got very close to the business and wouldn't leave well there there you go there was there was one of them all right well jim let's get another he left after i custody had the two segments of the night that got the most derision coming up immediately afterwards one right after the other and i felt bad for the first one for part of it because what have we been saying about production meetings apparently they didn't have one for this show or at least they they just they They went ahead and improvised this next segment.
Starting point is 03:22:56 Tony Chivani was at ringside at the railing with our friend Ash Ableton, who's been on this program and was more eloquent to say the least here. Maybe it's because Tony's a rotten interviewer. But this was one of the most awkward things I've ever seen, and I don't know why of some of it. Because they're promoting Queen of the Ring. bunch of their talent at the premiere in Los Angeles. I'm sure Tony flew them all to L.A.
Starting point is 03:23:29 Should have flown some to Louisville. We had more fun. But they're promoting the movie, Queen of the Ring in theaters near you folks, starring Jim Cornett and others. And so obviously this wasn't like a goddamn, oh, hey, look, if we didn't know they were here, let's just grab this interview and it fell apart.
Starting point is 03:23:48 They had to kind of know. They had to tell Tony you're going to go over, you're going to interview Ash Ableton and Kelly Bergland and Damaris Lewis. Give these people some names. Tony was at ringside. There's the three of them standing there, Ash and the two young ladies. And Tony says, we're here with Ash Ableton,
Starting point is 03:24:11 the director of Queen of the Ring. And the girls kind of, you know, light up since they're on camera also. And Tony looks over at them and says, oh, hey, girls, nice to see you here. and turned back to Ash like they were marks from the front row. He didn't know who they were or they were not supposed to be in this. He didn't know their names. So then he goes to Ash and Ash is trying to plug the movie,
Starting point is 03:24:38 but clearly he wanted the girls to be able to say something. And it looked like he may be trying to save that maybe did Tony forget their names? He just blanked so he didn't introduce them. So Ash introduces them. He knows their names, but he fumbles the pitch on asking them a question. And he's, I'll just take it, girls. And then, my God, the first thing, the young lady, God, and then these are actresses now. Take it, girls.
Starting point is 03:25:12 And then she says the worst thing you can say. Take it, girls. Oh, she took it all right. She took it. DeMaris Lewis, who plays Babs Wingoes, one of the three sisters. Babs Wingo, Ethel Johnson, and Marva Scott. I met, oh, my gosh, they were three sisters. They were the pioneer African-American lady wrestlers.
Starting point is 03:25:31 I just saw the video with Casper. Yes, and I forget which one of their daughters was there. It was Marva. I think it was Marva's daughter. Yeah. Well, anyway, Demeris Lewis plays Babs Wingo, but she says, one thing I've learned about pro wrestlers, y'all know you're going to win before anybody else does.
Starting point is 03:25:52 So thanks for teaching me that. Tony Chavale was just frozen. Also, when Ash said, take it, girls, she had grabbed the microphone. Tony had to let go of it, but she grabbed it and pulled it in so she could go first. And you know, you just know that she had rehearsed that and had thought this is such a profound thing to say. because in her head she's thinking, y'all are the first ones that you know you're going to win
Starting point is 03:26:25 before anybody else does and you go out and you prove it to them. She's trying to be inspirational, right? You're the first ones that know you're going to win, but what she does is just take a goddamn diuretic shit all over K Fabe on a wrestling program and the fans on Twitter and everybody else. And she was proud of that.
Starting point is 03:26:45 She didn't have any idea what she had done. and then before the main event right before the main event you get on right before the main event which hey if she hadn't exposed the business then the main event would have the first thing I learned from the wrestlers is that it's fake thank you you know that that's one of the first inside insults I learned when I got in the business it was from the boys in the Tennessee territory they'd go you would go up to a fucking guy you'd say I learned to work by watching you wrestle. That was a profound fucking insult. Your shit
Starting point is 03:27:20 was so see-through, right? He had to be there. But anyway, then young, young Nell Stewart spoke. And then when she finished and she was a bit more pleasant and non controversial. And then
Starting point is 03:27:38 Tony was ignoring them pretty much as they were talking and then turned to pitch out. And you could see Ash hold his hand up and he said one more thing I want to say and he just Tony completely pitched out like get the fuck out of this and cut out it was the most awkward thing
Starting point is 03:27:59 on everybody's part. Ash talked for an hour and a half on this program and didn't fumble anything. He couldn't make it 20 seconds on this show. These girls looked like they were interlopers on a live interview that just wandered out of the crowd from the way the announcer treated them. One of them, when they did get to speak, exposed the business on a fucking wrestling program,
Starting point is 03:28:22 and then the announcer cut the poor fucking director of the goddamn movie they're plugging off and just said, fuck it, we're out of here. And that's the last you saw of any of them. God damn it. That was an all-timer of a segment right there. Nothing went right. It should have been a layup. Hey, we got a few actresses in the director. It rings. side. Let's do something nice to promote this movie. They've all of a sudden been all over the movie and then they go out there and a girl exposed. If you'd like, if you'd like to see something similar done with absolutely no conversation or pre-planning ahead of time or a production meeting, go to official Jim Cornett on YouTube and I'll be with
Starting point is 03:29:03 some of the same people going for several minutes without anybody embarrassing themselves. You have anything you want to say? Yeah, the first thing I learned is they know who's going to win. What the fuck? What the fuck? Oh, what was Ash? Do we need to get Ash back on the show now? Yeah, yeah. Ash, what was that other thing you wanted to say?
Starting point is 03:29:25 Yeah, what was it, Ash? What were you going to tell Shibani? You're going to say, you're an idiot? What were you going to say? It's going to be the biggest cliffhanger since Baby Doll's envelope on Dusty. It's what did Ash Avilson want to finally figure out to say when you cut him off? Ab's Wingo says wrestling his face. If you can't trust Babs Wingo to be on a level, who can you trust?
Starting point is 03:29:52 Oh, what a segment. Second part of this. It was, man. It may be in the running with this open mic night, bitch, kind of. I don't think it went the way all the people involved thought it was going to go. Well, so MVP and Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin are still standing in the ring when suddenly out comes Brian Keith and Big Bill. And they have earlier in one of the break things,
Starting point is 03:30:39 Jericho has told them they need to prove themselves to him, some of this business, whatever the fuck. But now they come out and say, well, Well, what they were trying to say, what the intention of this segment was to say was that they were going to try to put themselves over and make a challenge for a tag team title shot against the Hurt syndicate. But God damn it, as soon, Brian Keith was the first one to speak. And as soon as he had made like one declarative statement, MVP just bowled up a giant,
Starting point is 03:31:18 wad of shit in his hand and flung it. I rate his speed like a fucking major league pitcher right into Brian Key's face. He just shit all over. He just referred to him for the first of many times. This is a little bitch. And I don't even think he spoke directly. at him. I think he spoke to his handler, Big Bill, about getting your little bitch back. And then Big Bill tried to start talking. And everything he said, MVP, again, it was like a,
Starting point is 03:32:05 it was like one of those batting machine things where the guy just stands there with a fucking bat. And every time one comes at him, he'd bam, and a bam, he would interrupt what they were trying to say and insult him and sting them. They couldn't handle his material and then they're trying to go back to the fucking story and he's like, well, hurry up you two little bitches. I'm going to have my guys come down there and just slap a shit out of him. Just in the most dismissive derogatory way possible, he allowed them to speak long enough to tell him that they wanted a title shot that
Starting point is 03:32:44 Then they walked past them showing absolutely no trepidation whatsoever and said, go out there and win a match and you can get a title shot. It, there's a guy, I've never seen a smaller seven foot guy by the time they finished hacking down at Redwood. And Brian Keith is a fucking midget anyway. And they just made him a little fucking mascot. got. This was like Richard Pryor cutting down a heckler.
Starting point is 03:33:19 I mean, it was just, every word he got out was like, boom, boom, boom. And fucking Big Bill looks so good. I mean, he's obviously taking all the right vitamins. He looks jacked and big and strong, maybe never look better than he does right now. And he started with confidence, and then he's like, blah, blah, blah, nevertheless. He knew there was nothing you could do. MVP had a look at his eyes.
Starting point is 03:33:45 I'm going to cut these fucking guys down no matter what, and he did, and it was amazing. And I can't wait to see this match now, because I really believe that his guys are going to kick the shit out of these two. He made me believe. And can. Yes. That's the thing. The suspension of disbelief is back in wrestling business. I have a feeling at Big Bill and Brian Keith better going along losing streak.
Starting point is 03:34:11 Oh, crap. Anyway, speaking of a long. Did Brian Keith walk into the wrong room? What did Brian Keith? Brian Keith had... Oh, yeah, this has to be some type of personal issue. That this fucking guy has apparently overstepped his boundaries in some fashion and got verbally bitch slapped back down to fucking...
Starting point is 03:34:37 It was like someone played a practical joke on MVP, but he wasn't going to go along with it. He was just going to cut it down. Like, who are these guys out here? I don't know. I think somebody was pulling a practical joke on Brian Keith and Big Bill. Send him out there to face
Starting point is 03:34:52 the fucking gunnery. I wonder what advice Jericho is going to give him now. Don't come in here, get him on me. Don't go on a cruise with him. Don't get in the elevator. I know this is your show, but this has been sent to me by a bunch of the listeners. I'm very curious your
Starting point is 03:35:14 thoughts. Have you seen what Mercedes-Mone is up to? Thankfully, no, but is it, is she up to another position somewhere where we can get her off the television? On her official website, this is the link that's been sent to me, let's be text buddies, it's an image of her, seemingly in the middle of her, a little dance, and it has some examples here, someone said, hi, Mercedes, is Snoop Dog really your cousin? When did you talk to him last? And as a response here, he is. I saw him in New York City We had dinner and talked fam
Starting point is 03:35:47 Hi Mercedes What are you doing today I'm with my dog trainer Trying to potty train Bugs Bunny Mercedes Were you really hurt in your match with Momo 100% Her kicks bruised my throat
Starting point is 03:36:04 And I couldn't speak for two days Now you may be asking yourself What the hell is this? What is this? It's what I was about to ask you For just 9999 a month my super fans have always been my super friends. Now like friends, they could text me directly and privately.
Starting point is 03:36:21 I'm so excited to finally be able to connect this way. Sign up and text me now. This is exclusive, one-on-one, personal and private. You get a private number that only super fans can use. How fucking private is it when it's open to anybody that will pay? Is it even hers at AI? But you get a private number that only her super fans can use. Spots are extremely limited.
Starting point is 03:36:44 so if you want to chat with her directly, don't wait, make this happen, be the first to know with Monet Magazine. Wait, hold on. What? I added Magazine. It just says Monet Mag. Sign up to get exclusive news, insights, and updates delivered straight to your inbox one full week before they go live on our website.
Starting point is 03:37:05 Monet Mag seems to be a different thing. The listeners have been dying to know your thoughts on a wrestler, or specifically Mercedes-Money, charging $100 a month to allegedly exchange texts with people, yes. And by the way, should we do this? This seems like easy money. Well, no, because I'm not learning to text for any amount of money. If it's AI, if we could just get AI Jim and AI Brian the response.
Starting point is 03:37:31 Well, that's what I was about to fucking bring up. Now, it just pump the brakes. How'd, since I'm not a texter like the kids are, I understand it's a big deal to some people. But how do you know that it's even her? It's like when I've done cameos, I can understand that in terms of you know that it's me. I'm standing there talking to you
Starting point is 03:38:02 and we're talking about people that you have told me about whatever. I mean, they may be able to AI that now, but I didn't when I was doing the cameos and wouldn't but how do you know that this is the fucking what what do you
Starting point is 03:38:22 I'm looking at the previous covers the front covers of Monet Mag hold on me send you this link I have no idea she has a magazine she puts out about herself I had no idea holy shit how many issues are you are you sending me
Starting point is 03:38:40 this so that I can join the club there or read up on her and it'll change my mind somehow. I just need a second person to see this. I just sent you a link. It should be there shortly. Well, to answer my question, though.
Starting point is 03:38:55 There is literally no way you're a texting person. You know how it works. There's no way that if it's just, well, you know how this technology works. There's no way if it's just text that you can tell that this is the real person that you are... Allegedly
Starting point is 03:39:11 Unless you're writing to. Even if you're saying, like, send me a picture yourself. It could be like one picture they send to all the fans who were signing up for $100 a pop to the text with alleged Mercedes-Money. I can't get over the fact
Starting point is 03:39:26 she has 40 issues of her magazine. Written by Mercedes-Money. Oh, no. Wouldn't you know who won the pony? Oh, my God, I had no idea. Wait a, oh, here it is. I've got to. the link of Mercedes.
Starting point is 03:39:44 Oh, Jesus Christ, her name just slides right in. She thinks a lot of herself, doesn't she? It seems so. Monet, no, certainly to God, these are not all magazines devoted to her that they have produced somehow. Well, a digital magazine. I don't think they're printing anything. I can't imagine they're printing anything.
Starting point is 03:40:10 I know what that's going to be. Well, who's going to say, is this an entire, I'm afraid to click on it. Will it cost me anything? It won't cost you anything, except dignity. I'm clicked on one of them. And her, oh, issue 19. And then there's more pictures with, I guess, these are stories. What the fuck?
Starting point is 03:40:31 This is just her and her friends standing next to a tree? What is going on here? Oh, it doesn't give you the whole. Goddain. Well, I guess it, hold on. And she's really figured out how to shake down the fans. I got to give her credit. It's a picture of her under a tree. And one paragraph story that she wrote about her experience under the tree. Oh, well, post-view, 73 people looked at this, so maybe she's not getting...
Starting point is 03:41:03 My assistant and I took an Uber to this amazing five-mile hike. When we were finished, though, we ended up having to walk another five-mile hike. to a little motel for help. We had no cell service and we're an hour and a half from our hotel. So these dumb douchebags hop in somebody else's fucking car
Starting point is 03:41:24 and get driven to drive five miles through the woods or to walk five miles through the woods and when they get finished though, they realize, well, we're five miles out in the fucking woods. And they got to walk another five miles to find somebody that can help them get an hour and a half back to their hotel.
Starting point is 03:41:48 Oh, but the housekeeper's son was so nice, he picked me and my assistant up. Good fucking job her assistant is doing. What's she assistant with? Hey, that poor assistant got dragged on a hike. You think she wanted to go on that? And drove us all the way back himself, saving us the $500 we would have had to pay for a car service.
Starting point is 03:42:08 That's five text messages. But wait a minute, besides the fact that they just willy-nilly went out in the woods on foot, $500 away from their goddamn hotel, they get in a car with the housekeeper's son. Who was that, Anthony Perkins? That's this little fucking motel. The fuck. What is the matter with you? Norman, Norman, can you take them?
Starting point is 03:42:37 That's the magazine, folks. There you go. She has, like I said, certainly figured out how to shake down the fans. and unfortunately, I'm going to get another one here, only 110 post views. So she may be producing content, but it doesn't mean it's being consumed by more than 110 people. I bet you we just got her some attention. What is this? Russell Snow Days and Newby Culture from the same issue you did.
Starting point is 03:43:02 My team and I were talking about the recent, my team. My team. Why do you have a team? You don't draw any money. She's got a team to get her out of the woods. My team and I were talking about the recent hurricane that hit my home state of Florida. Besides coming up with a new side hustle of tornado food delivery, I was really grateful that my home was fine during the recent storm.
Starting point is 03:43:25 This got me thinking about how the weather has affected wrestling shows and traveling to wrestling shows. I was reminded at the time when I, Bailey, Apollo, and a few others literally got stuck in Colorado due to a snowstorm. We had to stay because driving the six hours to the next town was too dangerous, that was rare, the term the show must go on was probably written for wrestling because I know no other world that lives up to that notion. What? That's, that's, that's, how about the world that it came from? Show business.
Starting point is 03:43:56 That's exactly right. Yeah, fuck. What is it? And how is this woman constantly stranded in some type of wilderness? Poor pre-planning leads to piss poor performance. all right well i could honestly say i have never been stranded against my will in an environment i've been stranded in a hotel due to weather or things but i've never been stranded out in the goddamn nature against my will just due to poor planning on my part as to where the fuck i was
Starting point is 03:44:34 i was thinking while i was thinking about this brian i was thinking while i was thinking about it I ever tell you the only time that I as a booker in Smoky Mountain Wrestling or when I was on the creative committee and happened to see anything in WCW or a ring of honor or OVW, whatever the fuck, the one time that I can think of that I stopped a match as a booker because I thought somebody was fucked up and nobody was going to stop it but me. Do you know, have I told you that or do you remember when that was? Oh, I don't know. Is this another one of those Russ McCullough stories? No, Smoggy Man Wrestling.
Starting point is 03:45:18 I brought the Moondogs in. Larry Latham and, and folks, if you know, to look up the moon dogs is all I can tell you. Don't stop now. Who was the other guy? Well, hold on. I'm going to tell you here in a second. But for the kids who might not have even heard of the moon dogs, look up the moon dogs, 80s, WWF but they basically
Starting point is 03:45:46 were over in the Memphis territory and in Tennessee from the 83 run they had with the fabulous ones all the fucking bloodbass and the wild ass shit it was Larry Latham and Randy Colley Spot and Rex the moon dogs
Starting point is 03:46:02 and then they you made somebody with it in the WWF but then in the early 90s Larry Latham and a couple different partners had come back in Memphis and did a program with Jerry Lawler and Jeff Jarrett and the wild-ass matches
Starting point is 03:46:20 and the trash cans and the chairs and the men, it revitalized their business because somewhat not for the standard of the time they were doing well. But it was like bringing... It was pre-E-CW actually when you think about it because that Memphis, those tapes were going around and the Moondog stuff with Richard E. Lee
Starting point is 03:46:39 and just a variety of moon dogs and it was wild stuff. Two befores and whatever. But it was like bringing the sheik in, but the sheik was too old. So now we've got another gimmick. It was the gimmick. And they were the ones doing it. And the baby faces only had to do it when they worked with the moon dogs.
Starting point is 03:47:00 And that was part of the deal. And it got attention. And you couldn't do it too long. But anyway, so the point is, 83 at Memphis, draw money with the fabs. They go to the WWF, the name gets out of blah, blah, blah. But Larry Latham was from, God damn, somewhere in Arkansas near, like West Memphis
Starting point is 03:47:21 or somewhere in Arkansas near Memphis. And he lived there. And they had had the early 90s run, as I said with Lawler and Jeff, was in 93. I think he called me. I don't remember calling him, but he was pitching the idea of the Moondogs. I said, Larry, you got a partner? He said, well, his kid, I can't remember.
Starting point is 03:47:40 what this kid's name was. I broke this kid in. He can do the gimmick. I said, well, I think I said, I can give you all, you know, $300 a shot for the team, which now that's, you know, like $900,000 or $1,000 today. But he said, I says, that's this space 150 each. He said, well, now you just give me the $300 and I'll take care of him.
Starting point is 03:48:05 It's okay. So I bring him in to have a program with the Rock and Roll Explore Explore. classic monsters against my baby faces and then had the moon dogs against Ron and Don Harris, the Bruce brothers, because now you got the baby face monsters against the heel monsters. And, you know, and then it was time for them to go. But when I first brought him into television, point I'm going to make, their deal is they jumped the job guys and they beat the shit out of them and they hit him with chairs and they I'm blowing the whistle.
Starting point is 03:48:39 I'm their manager. And, you know, everybody's seen that drill that's seen the moon dogs. And I booked them against guys that they could just beat up. And, you know, you're working with the moon dogs. So it's kind of like in the 80s, working with Road Warriors. You know what's going to happen. But there had been this one guy in Morristown, Tennessee, that every time of this convenience store that was on the way out of town
Starting point is 03:49:02 when we went to the Kentucky towns, he'd been working outlaw and, wanted to get booked. Every time I saw him, he wanted to get booked. And finally, I called him, I said, well, work with the moon dogs on TV. Okay. So I figure at least this will discourage him, if nothing else. But they're having to match him. Brian Hill, Brad, Mark Curtis is the referee. It's the TV match. One of their, I can't remember if it was the first one they'd done or one the first ones. And I think Brian's trying to control the shit in the ring. And Larry's got this guy out on the floor of the high school gym that we're shooting a TV in.
Starting point is 03:49:40 And Larry Latham picks up a steel chair just the same kind that you get at Home Depot, no padding, no nothing. And this guy was on his knees in front of him, and he just raised it up and hit him as hard over the fucking head as I've ever seen. I don't even know how to explain to you the sound or the force or the way it looked or just the guy crumpled. And I said, well, shit, he's killed him. And I'm waving at Brian.
Starting point is 03:50:11 I said, ring the bell. And Brian turns around. He says, Brian says, so, well, I said, ring the bells. Just stop it. Just stop it. He's dead. He's killed him out. I told him.
Starting point is 03:50:23 Because Brian, I think, was still trying not to see all the chairs and shit. So we wouldn't decue it or whatever. And he just could bring the bell. and then they still, the boondogs are still beating these guys up. I don't think that first guy was up yet. But they want to do more shit and I'm blowing the whistle for real. It's over.
Starting point is 03:50:42 We're out of time. We've got to go. We're in break. And I finally try to get them to settle down. And because I'm sure I've seen this fucking guy has got brained. We're going to have called ambulance here in a minute. And I can't remember. I said, maybe he had to go to the desk and do a promo first.
Starting point is 03:51:01 right or whatever but as soon as we got back in the fucking locker room i went to i said where's that fucking guy and there he was and he came up to me he said did i do okay mr cordet you think you could use me again next month have a god damn i never want to see you again oh why are you to blame him. No, I said, get out of the business. Consider yourself lucky. No, there was no way he was ever going to make any money in a wrestling business and, and, you know, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 03:51:40 But I stopped the match that I was in as Booker because I thought, well, no, that's too much. We can't believe we've gone too far, damn it. And I just, I don't know. sure I'll finally give you a shot against a moon doll what did you think was going to happen well now there's a line
Starting point is 03:52:03 that needs to be cross I thought he'd get I thought he'd get a good indoctrination into job guy and I didn't know he was going to get fucking brain damage now it was hard to tell from before or after with this fellow
Starting point is 03:52:16 if he suffered any ill effects in that department but I didn't want to fucking hasten his goddamn decline but no and then and this see this will remember this was years before ECW ECW also so when I saw the chair shots at poor old boo Bradley balls Mahoney was taken and then you know but anyway that's what I'm saying is sometimes you got to I'll tell you another one now that I've just thought of it to be honest with you did I tell you what I called an ambulance on somebody In the middle of a match? As Booker, yes. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:52:57 I hate to laugh because I don't know where it's going to go, but no, I don't know this story. I was in the goddamn match again. But I was also the Booker and spoke about wrestling. We had, I think it was one of the fire on the mountains in Johnson City, Tennessee at Freedom Hall. And it was the 10-man rage in the cage where it was Bullet Bob Armstrong,
Starting point is 03:53:19 the Rock and Roll Express, and two of Bob's sons, which I'm thinking were Scott and Steve. And it was my guys, the bodies were in it. I'm trying to think who else my heels were and me, right? And you go in, war games rules where you go in one at a time from each team and finally you're all in and the blah, blah, blah. And of course, I'm going to be the last one in because I'm scared.
Starting point is 03:53:47 But anyway, what I didn't know until we had the match laid out, And the match was going perfectly according to to Hoyle. But what I didn't know, because I was doing promos or whatever earlier in the day, it didn't just sit there and stare at everybody's conversation. But Riggie Morton and one of the Armstrong boys out of Scott or Steve were having a debate on, because they were both going to get juice in the cage match, right? But they were having a debate on the best method of the blading process. and one of them was favoring once across lightly.
Starting point is 03:54:26 That was the Armstrong, while Ricky Morton was favoring to stick it in and turn. And I don't know if they actually got goddamn, you know, heated over it or whatever. But the matches going along and all of a sudden, boom. You know, Armstrong has got his juice and there's, you know, things are going on, just fine. And boom, Ricky gets his and goddamn.
Starting point is 03:54:51 Ricky Morton starts fucking bleeding. Like Tommy Rich after a three-day bender in the Omni or something. And I'm like, fuck. And as the matches going on, you know, they've got Ricky down and he sells, he sells like Ricky Morton. Have you ever heard that, Brian, that Riggie Morton sells like Riggie Morton? I've not heard that, no. So you don't know whether he's fucking dying or not to begin with,
Starting point is 03:55:14 even if he's not looking like he's ready to pass out from blood loss. And finally, and Sandy Scott, I'm still at ringside, right? You know, maybe one of the other heels waiting to go in. Sandy Scott comes up behind me and says, is he all right? I'm not sure. Why don't you call an ambulance just in case? It's like we're having this conference while all the people are screaming
Starting point is 03:55:42 as cage matches going on. So Sandy goes back in the back and uses one of the pay phones, call a fucking ambulance. So there's a man losing blood. I can't say. Yeah, what did he say? Well, he can't. He can't say because, you know, the thing is,
Starting point is 03:56:07 number one, if it's not needed, we don't want to have to pay for it. But also, he can't say one of the wrestlers in the match is bleeding too badly, but it hadn't been stopped or whatever. He just says, there's one. of the wrestlers is losing blood. He hangs up. Did he call 911? Well, he called whoever you called an ambulance in Johnson City, Tennessee in 1990.
Starting point is 03:56:32 On a pay phone? Yeah, 911 emergency is a wrestler losing blood. Wrestler and Freedom Hall's losing blood. We need an ambulance. So then he walks back past me and he nods like I've called him, right? And Riggies hanging over the ropes. me he's goddamn drenched it looks like somebody's turned a buggined a red paint over his head and finally my time is coming i get in there and obviously i'm trying to stay away from bullet bob but in some way or
Starting point is 03:57:05 another the situation is not dire for me now where i can go over and get on top of ricky morton and get on him go are you all right he's yeah i'm fine jimmy he's to get on me i'm what's the for you goddamn going to bleed out. No, it's okay. So then I start beating on him. And then we finish the match. Obviously, they beat me in some fashion in the end. And then we get to the back one. Now the back of the fucking ambulance is pulling up. And of course, Ricky's selling in the locker room on the way to the locker room. And as he gets into locker room, he's looking at the ambulance over there.
Starting point is 03:57:45 So he's kind of covered his head up. and the towel we've got for his blood. But the ambulance people come in and there's Sandy and they say, where's the emergency? Oh, what do you? Somebody call you guys? Well, they, one of the fans must have called. They see one of the wrestlers was bleeding, but he's all right.
Starting point is 03:58:06 They must have called you guys from a pay phone or something. So we didn't have to pay for the ambulance. But it looked, for a minute, it looked like it might be never. necessary, so we wanted to have the option. Was that too compassionate a booker, a matchmaker? I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know anyone's ever talked about your compassion
Starting point is 03:58:35 as a booker or a matchmaker. Well, see, more people up to then. Anyhow. Was this, were we talking about, were we talking about, were we talking about? I don't know. We originally kind of went from there, but just dangerous stuff and stuff it shouldn't be too dangerous and when do you
Starting point is 03:58:58 when do the people in charge have a responsibility to not let people fucking do stupid shit that is not worth the goddamn risk or just set up a pattern of doing stupid shit so that that becomes the norm
Starting point is 03:59:17 and then the next people have to do stupid or shit to get the same reaction and then that's where where we are at today after all of this. Yeah, now you know not to really react unless the referee looks really concerned. Unless the referee drops down quick to get in the other person's face and go, are you alive? Oh, yeah. And then, you know, well, but at the same time, a lot of this shit fools the referees.
Starting point is 03:59:38 Then they're going to start doing that every time, too. Then they'll drop down to say, are you alive? Is anyone alive out there? We'll talk more about the blooper reel when we get to the modern... Well, let's see about what state we're in right now. Jim, there is a lot going on. We have a lot to get to. We have some reviews. We have the roster review, which a lot of people have been waiting for. Lots of other things happening. Why don't we start with something that's a bit, what the hell's going on with this? We talked last week about Rick Flair, and the news that he had launched or was behind the company or aligned with a company called Rick Flair Spirits, of all things. with a line of Rick Flair liquor drinks, liquor drinks, Rick Flair, uh,
Starting point is 04:00:31 liquors, Rick Flair. It sounds like you've had some. Have you had some of the Rick Flair liquor drinks, Brian? Everything from Flair Bourbon to Wooskey. Right when we talked about that, there were a lot of people getting in touch about a tweet. Jim Ross has been on social media from at least what I've seen.
Starting point is 04:00:56 and I don't follow him or anything, just a few times it's been retweeted over the last few weeks talking about his medical issues and he went in for surgery, he came out of surgery. Yes, and he just actually, I think right before we're going on the air, has tweeted that he's home from the hospital and, you know, starting his recovery there. But yeah, we've mentioned a few weeks ago when he made the public statement that he was being treated for cancer, everybody's up on that. And Jim Ross has a lot of fans.
Starting point is 04:01:29 So naturally, his fans would want to know what's going on with him, especially if it's something as serious as this. Well, in the midst of that, Rick Flair tweeted out, Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention. Focused on your recovery. And then he tagged him in it, and a lot of people took that as what the hell is Rick Flair doing?
Starting point is 04:01:56 Why would he do this? Was there a smiley face? No, I don't think Rick Flair uses emojis, or at least not here. Any type of little semicolon, right parenthesis? Other than him tagging him at the end to make sure he saw it, no. I heard that. I didn't hear it. It wasn't spoken.
Starting point is 04:02:20 I saw that and I was trying to figure out if it was it was it in response to some specific statement or event or remark that someone is made was it in response to
Starting point is 04:02:40 something that someone had said or that an announcement that had been made that people were supposed to know what the fuck he was talking about if he then as we will find out here in second claim that it was taken out of context what was the context you just blurted something out out in the wild right
Starting point is 04:03:02 and nobody if they did misunderstand it from what you meant it to be Rick why not because we know what you were fucking talking about how did you take it Jim Ross will always be Jim Ross seeking attention focus on your recovery that's right because people started retweeting it
Starting point is 04:03:24 with the goddamn like Jesus guy and I'm like what the fuck and I'm thinking from Jim Ross's goddamn hospital gurney did he give some kind of interview where he said something about Rick that bam
Starting point is 04:03:39 and I'm like then since that apparently is not the case I'm wondering if if Flair just saw something at some point in time and assumed that if he responded to it that at that moment
Starting point is 04:03:56 that everybody would know exactly what he was fucking talking about but it just it was the oddest fucking thing I think did they have problems? I don't know what to fucking thing when you were with them and again
Starting point is 04:04:09 they worked together after that too but when you were with them let's say in 88, 89, 90 did they have problems? Did they work well together? What did the only problem that they had, and I've said this many times,
Starting point is 04:04:24 was that Flair viewed J.R. as being more on Jim Hurd's side because J.R. had to coexist in the office with the fucking raccoon-headed asshole and was more... tried to be more amenable or professional or acquiesced or whatever to him than Flair who just wanted to say,
Starting point is 04:04:47 fuck you. jump out the window and a me too. But it was not like that either one of them personally had a issue with each other, whatever. And as I said, I don't know what I don't know what's going on with anybody the last number of years. I'm over here. I try to stay away from these things.
Starting point is 04:05:09 But that's what Flair put out a follow-up tweet that said that he was in some way misunderstood or misrepresented or misrepresented or whatever and if you read that let's try to figure out how the fuck that that is a thing that could be and actually there's two things here i have the tweet which i believe you're referencing i also have a statement that he issued after that so let's go to here here's the tweet if you can't take a joke from a 76 year old man then you are living life too seriously it was all harmless wait a wait a minute should you should you also mention that you're saying that because every word is capitalized?
Starting point is 04:05:54 Yeah, that's the rule. If it's capitalized, we yell it. That's the Russo rule when it comes to reading documents. Yes. Then you are a living life too seriously. It was all harmless, lighthearted fun. Just trying to make people laugh and smile. What the,
Starting point is 04:06:10 all those Jim Ross haters. He's trying to make laugh and smile. Hey, I heard Jim Ross had, uh, surgery for cancer. You know what? Let me go make a joke. You're seeking attention again. I got to be honest, Rick used to be a bit better of a comedian. I don't, how was that a joke that, see, that's what I'm thinking is, does Rick think that he's sending out the meaning that he thinks it his head telepathically along with these tweets so people would understand it when that way i was like god damn is seeking attention for his cancer how did it get cancer seeking
Starting point is 04:07:01 attention again well we have another statement here i won't yell this one i just made it clear to the world in an article coming out on sports illustrated by justin barasso that jim ross was my Mount Rushmore, along with Gordon Solie, Gene Okerland, and Jerry Lawler. That's an interesting Mount Rushmore there. That is an interesting choice of announcers when you're... Well, he's covering the spectrum. That's high praise, because it was very difficult for me to leave out Tony Chivani. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 04:07:44 But Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler were the greatest tandem ever. nobody should be upset because two people have a difference in opinion. It happens in life. I lost the son. He lost a beautiful wife. We have a lot in common. We were both considered the best at what we do. Let's leave it alone at that.
Starting point is 04:08:05 And all the haters can focus on someone else now. Well, wait a minute. I think it was alone until you brought it up. But besides that... Ignore the fire. I started the fire. What is the, what was the difference of opinion? He said everybody has a difference of opinion.
Starting point is 04:08:29 What, he was for cancer and JR is against it? He said he had cancer. I said that he's looking for attention. He said, no, I have cancer. Woo! It's a difference of opinion. What is the difference of opinion? You need a second opinion?
Starting point is 04:08:44 You're seeking attention. I tell you, I went to the doctor. The doctor said, I think you're ugly. I said, I'd like a second opinion. Okay, you're stupid, too. How you doing, Jim? Do you have a good support system? Well, the greatest of all time just told me I'm seeking attention.
Starting point is 04:09:07 Do you think Rick should send them a case of whiskey or something to ease the pain? I don't know. Well, maybe Rick, the next business, he'll get to the next business. into is an organ transplant service called Woo Organs. Because, you know, if you partake in all the rest of the Wu brand items,
Starting point is 04:09:30 you're going to need your liver replaced, your kidneys replaced, your pancreas, your uvula. All those things are going to need to come out and have somebody else's come in. So start now, and that way they can start harvesting the organs for the next generation of the
Starting point is 04:09:47 Woo Soomers. Woo Sumers. You can just see Jim Ross's face like looking at his phone like, hey, let me scroll. What the fuck? You know, what the fuck? All right.
Starting point is 04:10:01 Well, that's the, I don't know what we call it, the Rick Flair, Jim Ross feud update. It's just a difference of opinion. All the haters can focus on something else. It was a joke. It's just you and me and we just disagree. Doon, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,
Starting point is 04:10:19 speaking, Brian, of infotainment, what we examined on the previous show we did, what in the world that poor old Rick Flair may have been talking about when he put his foot in his mouth with a tweet to Jim Ross and trying to analyze what could have brought some statement like that on or what the fuck was going on. And we weren't very successful in trying to figure out why he did it. But then he had already kind of apologized for it. But now you told me before we went on the air, he said something else,
Starting point is 04:11:03 and I hadn't had time to read up on this. Yeah, this is a brief update just to finish the story that we told on the last. show, a bunch of the listeners were sending this over. Rick Flair on Twitter, June 4th, 2020. I try to be nice to everybody. God only knows that I've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people having a lifetime. What the, I try to be...
Starting point is 04:11:30 Wait a minute, wait a minute. If he was being nice to everybody, wouldn't he give that money to like hungry children? Or, I mean, how does that one thing go with the other? sure, but it started from the beginning. I didn't mean to interrupt, but I just... I try to be nice to everybody. God only knows that I've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people have in a lifetime. I tried being nice, and this is my last message to everyone. I've got more money than I've got time. Go F yourself, haters. No comment needed. Live with it.
Starting point is 04:12:11 Actually learn to love it. Get back to me again when you make $3 million a year at the age of 76. That's what famous gets. Famous all in caps. And by the way, I don't recognize anyone in this conversation
Starting point is 04:12:26 who is famous. So Rick Flair apparently closing the book on this whole discussion of his behavior. A clear and concise Declaration to the people that he had a contradictory opinion with there. I tried to be nice to you, but I make more money than you. What?
Starting point is 04:12:53 Or then I spill more liquor than you. I spilled more liquor. That's right. But he spilled more. Now, he made more money to spend more. No, he spent more money on the liquor that he spilled than they made or that they spent on the liquor they spilled. God only knows that I've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people have in a lifetime.
Starting point is 04:13:22 Okay, so now, wait a minute. Now that's what it is. Taking that as the grammatically correct statement, how much money do you think you've spent in your lifetime on spilled liquor, Brian? Oh, I spilled for free. Oh, God damn it. I've just, just as, how much do you think every son of a bitch? You know, to be very honest with you, uh, how often do you spill liquor? Yeah, that's the question.
Starting point is 04:13:48 I don't really have too many occasions where I just spilled drink. Oops, there goes my drink. Maybe every now and I'm like, maybe every now and then a little drop comes out because, you know, you're walking with a drink. But it's never like, oh, I spilled another one. Let me get another. Oh, I dropped another one. All over the rug. You, you slosh, or you slosh.
Starting point is 04:14:09 It wasn't me. It was the Egyptian. If you're walking back and forth in the bar, restaurant, nightclub, whatever, you may be a slosh. Every once in a while, there's a Joshel, a Josh, or a joust, or a fucking elbow in the ribs and you spill or whatever. But I don't think that's a big... Well, let's do the math. It's like that for the average person, a lifetime of spill liquor could be $72.48. If that much, I guess let's do the math.
Starting point is 04:14:43 If you buy 20 kamikazis, and what were the 1986 prices for kamikazis? Well, let's just use around $5. $5 a kamikaze. You buy $20. Well, there's $100. There's $100. How much spillage is going to happen from that? A dollar's worth?
Starting point is 04:15:03 Well, what if you're carrying the tray and you're drunk and you spill the whole thing, then that could add up. Ah! You have to think of that. spillage. I'm thinking of drinking a time. I'm thinking drinking a time. I'm thinking drinking a time. I'm going to drink in a time. Oh, I got 20. Oh, shit. Do you have to charge me? Yeah, we have to charge you. We just gave you all those. He spilled them everywhere. I'm just, I just don't know that, again, I love Rick. I'm not sure that
Starting point is 04:15:35 it's a compelling argument when you have to put your tax return up on the fucking post as part of the argument in defense of something that you said. Well, you know, I'm just glad that unlike Jim Ross, Rick Flair, doesn't look for attention. Unlike that dastardly Jim Ross, always looking for attention with his cancer. I hate JR the way he goes out dressed like Christmas packages all wrapped up and that horrible fashion sense he's got and all of the JR branded products like wings and weed and whiskey and antidepressants. I don't know what's going on. I saw Jim Ross with an IV.
Starting point is 04:16:16 He'll do anything for sympathy. Woo! He looked at me as I walked by like he expected me to help him up. He tripped on the liquor that was spilled. And now somebody's going to use as the headline, Jim Ross injured to spill slipping and Rick, Rick Flair denies intervention. That's what he should open next. The Rick Flares slip and slide.
Starting point is 04:16:48 And it's fucking kamikaze's being shot down the water slats. If you go down belly first or feet first and on your belly, you can drink at the same time. Nothing said you for a ride like whiskey. Woo!
Starting point is 04:17:07 All righty then. Well, we wish all parties the best in this situation. And Rick is basically he said this will be his final word on a subject unless he forgets that this is he said this. When you make, he might say something else.
Starting point is 04:17:21 When you make three million dollars a year at the age of 76, that's what famous gets. I thought it was 3.6. He said 3 million a year at the age of 76. Oh, at the age of 7th. I thought it was 3.6 at the age of 70. I wanted to get this correct.
Starting point is 04:17:36 You know, we got to get these facts and figures correct, Brian. You know who's looking at this one? It's very important. The IRS is probably looking at this tweet right. But yes, it's very important. And of course, and that's a gross now. Before expensive. Well, Brian, before we go any further with the program,
Starting point is 04:17:54 I'm having something is coming across the news desk here. Over at the castle, this is from a fellow, a fellow named Ralph Jackson on Twitter has sent me, do you have your Antonio andoki keychain there with you that you're trying to play the music? because he has given us some information on these models of these collectibles and how that they might be operated. Oh, that's the beginning of the itchy knee sanda chant. And then, of course, the famous tagada.
Starting point is 04:18:32 And I've seen some of these people with their guesses. None of them have gotten to say, hold it down. Here's me holding it down. No. No. They say there's a button or a pressure point somewhere. There's no pressure point or no button. Listen to me.
Starting point is 04:18:44 Listen to me. Listen to me. I've got an expert here. It's trying to tell you, you're just all fucking head up over nothing. It's got a impact activation. Since it's themed around a wrestler, it might have a motion or impact sensor.
Starting point is 04:19:02 You try slapping or tapping the face head area moderately hard, like Inoki's famous fighting spirit slaps. Okay, I'm a slap. But not too aggressively to avoid damage. I'm slapping a shit out of this. thing he's nah ha no that was a scream
Starting point is 04:19:26 it almost sounds like I get him again he'll scream again he'll scream again he'll squeal like a bitch slap him slap him in a face it was just a scream there did you hear that yeah no nothing it just hit him kick him kick it kick it kick it some more
Starting point is 04:19:50 now I will say users report this works on some versions but it could drain batteries faster if overused Now, there's also some other options here now. Oh, yeah. Because the toy could be defective, which is a common issue with these Ewaya produced items, as many eBay and collector listings note non-working
Starting point is 04:20:16 sound, even in new condition. You might need to contact a toy repair specialist or look for replacement parts online. Again, let me just jump in. real quick. I, when I got this, I got three of them. There's three different ones. I said, I'm opening one of them because I want to hear it. And of course, the batteries were dead and didn't do anything. I replaced the batteries. I fixed the corroded areas because parts of it had been corroded. It's from 1998. Yes. And the music plays, it's just one every, I've heard it at least six times, but just not now. Never on the air. No. You hear these songs play, but no one else can hear
Starting point is 04:21:00 them is what you're saying. Pressure point. If I push from his head, what's that? I'm pushing it so hard as legs are bending. Wait a minute now. Hold on. Here's another one. Try holding it for two to three seconds to trigger the song. One, two, three, four.
Starting point is 04:21:33 See, fuck it, goddamn. Now I'm debating should I open one of the other ones? I was going to keep the other two closed. Do I need to open one of the other ones. Fix them out. Oh, yeah, because they're Faberger eggs, and if you open it, it'll ruin your children's retirement. I mean, I didn't think
Starting point is 04:21:48 these anoki things are going to be worth a lot of money. I just figured why open it, if I already have one open in a white robe? Because the one you got open done work. Now you just, I didn't know you had three of them. Now you're just wasting all our times. Me and Ralph Jackson over here.
Starting point is 04:22:02 Do I give up on this one and open another one? Is that what you're suggesting? I think you ought to throw that one out to fucking window. Well, that's not going to have. Let the lawnmowers run over it. That'll teach him. You've already slapped the shit out of it. Now, listen, the bottom thing that you push, it's the base of the bottom of this.
Starting point is 04:22:19 And it feels like you could kind of like shift it up or down or left or right or press in the middle. But everything does the same thing. I'm not telling you what to do with Antonio Anoki's bottom. You can shove it or twist it or knead it or slap it or do whatever you need to do. All right, well, this is a great segment. The mystery continues. I was just trying to give you, I didn't mean for you to just go completely insane there. I just was trying to give you some information here.
Starting point is 04:22:49 He might have been able to use in some reasonable fashion. Can we? I sounded like it just jumped off the bridge there. Every few times, it just screams now. That's a new one. Well, it's because it's. All right, cool you get away from tiger da. And later,
Starting point is 04:23:16 on it's going to say, my name is Antonio Anoki and I'm going to kill you. Trying to mellow out here. Well, why don't we talk about the mellow tones? Oh, would you stop it now? For heaven's sake, would you stop? Speaking of chucking things, did you chuck the broken,
Starting point is 04:23:39 the discombobulated Antonio Inoki keychain that we have been plagued with for the past, the other day it stopped working when you began slapping it about the head and face, trying to make it play that song.
Starting point is 04:23:53 Which you told me to do, so you should buy me a new one. Well, I was reading the copy from, what was the name? Ralph, Ralph said to do it. He said he was an expert. I don't know about these things. I'm a simple man.
Starting point is 04:24:07 I'm not a judge. Keychain expert. Yeah, it broke. It broke. He broke it. I broke it. Well, you told me to slap it, and now, if I push this, nothing happens. For those of you following on Instagram and Twitter, I posted some photos.
Starting point is 04:24:23 I have two more, ready to go. And I said, I'm going to have to do that. We're getting a song on the air one way or the other. So everyone said, open the one on the left, because the one on the right looks so good you don't want to open that package. So I did that. I opened the one on the left. It's Antonio Anoki in a red robe, black tights, blue towel. I cleaned the corroded battery port
Starting point is 04:24:45 put the batteries in, closed it, does nothing. However, there's a weird thing where if I move the three little batteries around before it was... You hear that? There's something there. There's some life. There's go to the batteries.
Starting point is 04:25:05 I got to try this again in a minute. But there's something there. We have found signs of life, ladies and gentlemen, and they aren't just any life. They're the life of Inoki. So we're going to do what we can. See?
Starting point is 04:25:19 There's something. It's still just yelling Taiga-da. There's still no music. But there's something happening. It gives me hope that... It's doing the same thing the first one did. I'm going to have to open the third one. As nice as that package looks.
Starting point is 04:25:34 I guess that's the point. The pressure, the pure pressure, the solution. Is there some way you can steam it open or something so they're you know if anyone out there's a japanese engineer who wants to work on the back end of one of these and take them apart and reconfigure it this fucking thing this fucking but look here you blamed me now here's what i was doing and for the people who didn't hear this particular exchange one worked and you told me to beat it up that was great i was i was reading i was reading information that was sent in by a guy who apparently knew a lot about
Starting point is 04:26:09 this stuff. As I said, I think his name was Ralph, and I was reading it to you. Now, if some Yehu named Ralph wrote in to say, well, the best way to treat your fucking broken leg is to cut it off at the hip, would you be sawing on it?
Starting point is 04:26:24 Why are you? There you go. And by the way, Ralph, good job writing a letter in. Now this guy's throwing you under the bus. How do you like that? Come on. Everybody that contributes here to the program is open to some form of abuse.
Starting point is 04:26:41 Man, this stupid. The way, I had one that worked, and that's the one that's not working, but I know it could work, so it has to be a way to get it to work. And then this one, I have to literally play with the batteries while they're in here to get it to do. Come on, Tiger Da! You know, if anybody would just clip about the last 30 seconds of Brian's conversation, I believe that would top the Captain Quig's statement in fucking the cane mutiny.
Starting point is 04:27:13 Anyway, Baba was better. What was giant Baba famous for saying? Give me that cigar. Talk to my wife. Seriously. Can you think of any time that you've really seen Baba? I mean, yes, he's spoken words in the ring, but like making a public statement or having a catchphrase
Starting point is 04:27:41 or just really making a spectacle of himself in any fashion. while Adoki was out there screaming, look at me. Well, there are compilations of like commercials, like Giant Baba appearing in various commercials, and it's kind of like Shaquille O'Neal and that like, here's this giant star, and he looks great, but then you hear his voice like, oh, lo, lo, lo, like you can't even understand it.
Starting point is 04:28:01 I don't understand Japanese, but even if you did, it sounds like he'd be difficult to understand. Yes, it's... The giant Baba. One of those things where it would be, it's not a, it's not a linguistic thing. It's more of a fucking sonic thing. you know, all right, well, we wish you the best with your keychain, Brian.
Starting point is 04:28:21 Keep us up to date on that. I'm going to open the other one, and I'll let you know. This one is, there has to be a way to get this. It's like the first battery has to be, like, slightly. Oh. That's number two. Let's see if we get the third one. Come on.
Starting point is 04:28:49 All right, this is your show. I'm going to mute myself for a moment. Fucking Titan on. Well, now wait a now. Ladies and gentlemen, I can tell you right now that he's taking himself off the air because now he is so obsessed with trying to stick those batteries in and just the right place that he's just complete. He might have walked out of the room.
Starting point is 04:29:12 He might be going to where there's more, more sunlight. I put it down. Luckily, I have one that already died because I slapped it, so I feel free slapping that one now. But I got to remember it hurts my hand every time I do this shit. Fuck about back to you. This has been a great show. Yes, back to you. Let's try this again.
Starting point is 04:29:30 Nope, it's just the itchy D sound. So this is, I can't stop it either. This is, unless I rip the batteries out, this is the one where I had to put the batteries in and play with them. I've got it now. That just goes on. Well, I've got it now so the batteries are in here.
Starting point is 04:29:45 And if I press it, I'll never forget where I was. Ladies and gentlemen, mark it down. You have been witnesses. Wow. to history, it has happened. I didn't even have to open the third one. What a moment. Let's see if it happens again.
Starting point is 04:30:23 But it is possible. You have been vindicated. Wow. You're like, well, these people, they've fucking freed you from prison after 20 years because of DNA evidence. You were right all along and nobody believed you. And you see, the other thing is they play like the catchiest, most funky part of the song. so you hear that, you're like, I want to hear more of this, and then it's Taggata. And then it never happens again. The other version is just, you know, there's like a chant.
Starting point is 04:30:50 I don't know if you ever heard the record version of the song. It's like, Inoki, Bombayé, which is always found amazing. Like, he wrestled Ali, and he's like, I'm stealing the catchphrase from Zaire. Like, how the fuck did that happen? Ali, Bumbaier, watch this. I'll have a song. In no key, Bumbaier. Well, there it is.
Starting point is 04:31:10 The Inoki Keychain is finally. But there was the music by. who is that music by? Who would have orchestrated that? Oh, there we go. Can I stop it? I'm pressing the thing. They used to stop it if I pressed it a second time.
Starting point is 04:31:26 No, this one would go right through it. And then, and then Taiga da. And then, oh. You see, there's no rhyme or reason to when the song plays. I just want to hear the song again. I know it can happen. Why don't you work on that later on tonight after dark? And we're done with this program.
Starting point is 04:31:45 Oh, good Lord, now it'll never stop. It's like perfectly 70s. It is a cute little ditty. All right. Well, I don't know if I'd use those words, but there it is. Antonio Anoki, his big return right here on the show. Jim, real quick before we move on. And that was long-term storytelling, too.
Starting point is 04:32:11 It took weeks and months. It seems like years to get to that point. I'm just happy I didn't have to open that third one because I have it here. Hey! No, don't pick it up. Well, the packaging says you could hear the Antonio Inoki theme song, and now we know it is indeed a possibility on the air. And then it has one, two, three, da!
Starting point is 04:32:36 Which I don't know if that's exactly what he said either. What does da mean? Well, the best thing, too, is on the back of it, it has his height, 1951 centimeters, his weight, 108 kilograms. Okay, goddamn. His finish hold, there's a swastika. What? What?
Starting point is 04:32:58 And then it says, Gatami cobra twist. So I didn't know he was doing the Nazi Gatami cobra twist. No, that's, there's an actual, now certainly there's not an actual swastika. I will, I will be sending you a photo of this momentarily. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 04:33:19 There absolutely is. This is, this was made in Japan in the 1980s. So how did, I mean, I understand that when he's stepping over the octopus, his legs are crooked out in that fashion and he's got, but that's, that still doesn't, see, I look at as he's hunting Nazis, that he's trying to kill Nazis with his hold, not that he's like supporting them. I see Antonio Nochi is a man for this. Well, they would be supporting him.
Starting point is 04:33:51 He'd have his full weight on them if he had the hold on there. Jim, before we move on, I sent you an email. If you could open your email real quick, just to finish things. Well, I had, I had, and I assume that it is the picture that you spoke of, God damn, it is a swastika, isn't it? It's not printed like a swastika logo. It's printed like if a swastika logo. it's printed like if a swastika was like a letter.
Starting point is 04:34:23 It's like that you would hit, oh, here's the swastika letter on the typewriter. It just fits in with the rest of the print. His finished the cobra twist, K-O-B-U-R-A-T-W-I-S-T. Could that, how would they not know what that is, but could that be something in translation from something else.
Starting point is 04:34:54 I hope I've made that perfectly clear. Yeah, I mean, again, maybe another thing to elevate Antonio Anoki, Antonio Inoki Nazi Hunter, I think it has a hell of a ring to it. All right, I'll put him down, Jim. It's not ever going to quit now. How much is 108 kilograms? I don't know. Ask that, who was it Jack Reynolds?
Starting point is 04:35:19 Who was the fucking ring announcer for the Clash of Champions? And he had the Russian assassins, and he goes, had a combined weight. of 190 pounds from Keyless Russia. All right. Well, Jim, yeah. That's even better than South Central Louisiana. Who did that?
Starting point is 04:35:43 I remember you tell him that story. Who did South Central Louisiana? We ended up with a ring announcer one night on a Smoky Mountain Wrestling show that was part of the local sponsoring Fire Department. group because for whatever reason, there was no other ring announcer there that night. And so I would write down
Starting point is 04:36:04 in a case of an inexperienced announcer, I'd write down the actual weights and the hometowns. All you have to do is say from so-and-so to wait of so-and-so person's name. The gangsters were from South Central L.A. And so when he read it out loud,
Starting point is 04:36:23 from South Central Louisiana The Gangsters Well again, we want to thank Antonio Anoki for participating the last several weeks here on the show. We really do appreciate it. There it is. Oh, that didn't sound so good, but Jim Cornett's funniest moments, volume four, omnibus, volume five, is in the works
Starting point is 04:36:45 right now. Jim, you know, you are promised everyone at the start of the show that you were going to tell the greatest story ever told. So now it's... I... You're trying to... You're trying to George Burns my Jack Benny. But my uncle, who's a psychiatrist, last week, a nurse ran into his office and said,
Starting point is 04:37:05 Doctor, there's a man in a waiting room and thinks he's invisible. The doctor said, tell him I can't see. Well, there you go. A man in the waiting room thinks he's invisible. And we're going to be invisible because the show is over, ladies and gentlemen, but you can't see us for me. I'm going to stay out of sight of you. for a while after this.
Starting point is 04:37:26 Well, ladies and gentlemen, the high chinks continue in 2026 and beyond. Thanks for listening. We'll be back on the drive-through and the experience. For Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last. Telly-ho!

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