Jim Cornette Experience - Jim Cornette Experience Special - Jim Is Trending Omnibus

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

A special for Experience listeners today: Here is Jim Cornette's Trending Omnibus, looking back on the many times Jim has trended on Twitter! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThr...u@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast  Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more!  You can listen to Brian each week on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Like the midnight and the rock and roll. He's in a fight for wrestling soul using a racket and some mind control. He's Jim Cornett. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag deep art. We are back on the bus. Another Jim Cornett omnibus. This time we are looking at a very popular topic. The topic being Jim Cornett.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Jim Cornett trending. The many conversations we've had about that. Now let's go to him right now. Mr. Jim Cornett. Brian, you have dumbfounded me when the minions of the Arcadian Vanguard network that put this together where they said it's six hours and 27 minutes
Starting point is 00:01:30 of us talking about me trending on Twitter. This is because I don't trend for making astute comments. I don't trend for making news in various places for any of the wonderful things. things that I do, I trend for the stupidest, most insignificant reason, something I may have said or something I didn't say. Or sometimes, I wasn't even there. Or sometimes it's the most innocuous thing that could be uttered in the English language and some knucklehead loses their fucking rabbit-ass mind over it. So we put together a compilation of all the
Starting point is 00:02:18 stupid reasons that people have made me trend on Twitter while I was either playing with Harley Quinn or out working in a yard supervising the Monroe brothers. Well, let's find out what happens when there's no supervision at all. Let's go right now to the omnibus. Jim Cornett trending starts right now. That's not all the fun I had this weekend, Brian.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I swear to God, if I'm lying, I'm flying. This story that I'm about to tell you is true. And it is a sad, sad statement of affairs on, I think, the entire American population at this point, because people have just gone out of their fucking rabbit-ass minds. Do you remember, I don't know how many weeks ago it was, but we talked about this goof indie outlaw girl wrestler that doesn't want to use her gimmick name on Twitter, that used her real name. And the statement she made was, her name's Jordan, well,
Starting point is 00:03:21 one of her names is Jordan Grace. Her real name is apparently Trisha Parker. I say apparently because that's the one she puts on her Twitter. And then it says, at Jordan Grace. So you don't know who you're fucking talking to. But she's the one several weeks ago that said, well,
Starting point is 00:03:36 I think somebody asked her, why are you using both of your names? Why don't you stick to your gimmick name? I think people have moved past the point where they don't realize that we're playing a character. and this is, we have a real life also. One of these goddamn high school drama class fucking, you know, play cosplay wrestlers, right? And I had sniped at her about that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Well, then I think it was, I guess it was Monday maybe. So one of the way is Monday. I turn on Twitter and there's somebody, hey, Cornett, what do you think of this? This fucking goof is back on there and listen to what, I wrote this down so that I'd make sure I quoted this right. this is what she tweeted I am a hundred percent for calling wrestling a performance art rather than a sport in quotation marks
Starting point is 00:04:26 the insistence upon calling it a sport is really holding wrestling back in my opinion discuss with me and somebody actually had sent me that and it said hey somebody should shit in this dumb fuck's gear I mean performance art bag right somebody should shit
Starting point is 00:04:47 her fucking bag for a complete disrespect of and shit on the fucking business that she's been allowed in for whatever reason. So when they said that, then somebody else wrote back and said, you know, gave the old Terry Funk line slash Johnny Valentine. I can't make them believe pro wrestling is real, but I can make them believe that I'm real. I believe in Terry Funk. I don't believe in what's her face. And I saw that.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And I said, now, now, now watch that there, fella. that's butterface to you. And then, because I actually had shit to do, I got up away from Twitter and went to do my work, right? I come back through four hours later and sit down. I am trending on Twitter. I was, you know, the little thing on the left hand side, trends for you to file. I was trend, Cornette was trending on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Do you know why I was trending on Twitter? Not exactly, yeah. I was trending on Twitter because I called some outlaw mud show girl wrestler or didn't even call her directly to her. I mentioned her to someone else. Butterface. That's it. I was trending on Twitter because of butterface.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I called Dana Loche of the National Russia Association, I mean National Rifle Association, a soulless, heartless, cunt that drank the blood of murdered children for profit. I didn't trend on Twitter but I call this doucheback I mean this fine young lady Butterface and I trend on Twitter
Starting point is 00:06:25 and people have just lost their fucking minds and of course it's part of it is and she wants to get over I know and every all these outlaw mud show cosplay wrestlers know the way to get over is by you know having me talk about them but she's replied right
Starting point is 00:06:43 how do you even still have a job this point. Good look with your women's division MLW. Well, last I noticed MLW didn't have a women's division and if they do have a women's division, they'll probably hire women wrestlers that are serious about to fucking business, just
Starting point is 00:06:59 like the men wrestlers, hopefully all are. Well, we found out not all of them, but the ones I like, uh, instead of fucking play wrestlers like her that thinks she's in a goddamn high school production of, uh, you know, the fucking the incomparable fucking Mr. Burnside or
Starting point is 00:07:15 whatever of but anyway how do you even have a job she didn't even if she was in the wrestling business and somebody fucking knocked her sherry martel you know what she would have said she would have said a needle dick that's what you got to say say that to me in my face and i'll football kick your balls up in the back of your fucking throat but instead had you even still have a job at this so you can tell she's just an insufferable twat but anyway so i wrote back and said basically lot easier than you have a job because I take my business seriously and I don't act like a fucking actor or a performance artist unlike you and your fucking cosplay friends. And I also said, and Sherry Martell could have kicked the shit out of you without even
Starting point is 00:07:58 trying. Right? The fuck off. And anyway, and then, of course, the fucking guy from England does jobs to fucking girls on a weekly basis and then thinks people are still going to take him seriously. He has to chime in with fuck you, you know, all that stuff. he's an insufferable little cunt. And I told him, I said, you're an insufferable little cunt.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And not even the fucking good UK kind, but just the, the, the smarmy, obnoxious United States kind, this fucking guy. I don't even know who you're talking about. I don't want to give him any more publicity. But he's a fucking, he's a guy from England. And he calls himself the product.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And he has a cute little picture with his cute little rose next to his name. I guess he gives out roses to people. I don't fucking know. I told him to go play in traffic. it's the only way that he'd ever be in a middle of a fucking crowd. But anyway, so, and then the fucking, the TMZ guy, remember the TMZ want to be guy? He fucking chimes in on it. And I can't even remember what he said, but I was, I was like, I remember we talked about him a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He's always trying to get on, swing on my jock, as they say. And he said something, I said, what, I figured, I know he doesn't know anything about. wrestling even though he writes about it. So I didn't expect him to know that this was an homage to my angle with sunshine in 1985 in world class. But I thought since he's supposed to be a Hollywood guy, he would recognize that that my angle was sunshine and world class in 85 and this was an homage to Andy Kaufman and his business in 82.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So I said, what's the matter, dip shit? Just because your wife, oh, he said I was misogynist because I called her a butterface. I'm a misogynist. I hate women. I said, just because your wife isn't in a kitchen, rattling a pots and pans around, doesn't mean that that's not the normal accepted place
Starting point is 00:09:53 for the average American housewife. Come on, smarten up. That was the fucking Kaufman promo, either the week before or the week after he showed the people in Memphis how to use a toothbrush and toothpaste, right? Yeah, the women need to be rattling a pots and pans around. So I'm trying to wind this fucking idiot up. and he retweets that quote
Starting point is 00:10:13 the average American housewife should be in the kitchen rattling a pots and pans around quote and he follows up wow just wow like I really like I was serious like he didn't even get what I knew he wouldn't get what I was doing anyway
Starting point is 00:10:27 but then there's all the people all the people that watch this watch this listen to this program are getting on all of them like you fucking morons you know he's fucking with you because you're idiots you don't know what he's fucking doing because you're clueless, but a lot, a lot of people were like, oh my God, how can somebody
Starting point is 00:10:47 needs it like I'm the fucking Charles Manson, you know, have this vile, disgusting human being. By the way, what is the definition of butterface? Brian, because I didn't even know that some people don't know this, but give the definition of butterface. Well, thank you for putting me on a spot here. I don't know if there's a firm definition, but the way I remember being used when I would hear it randomly years ago by people who may or may not.
Starting point is 00:11:11 know was it was a girl who had an attractive body, but her face was another story. Well, yeah, but basically everything looks good, butter face. So in effect, but they took it, I guess because of the butter contingent, butter being a high fat food product, they took it that I was saying she was fat, which actually isn't even the meaning of butter face because if everything's great butter face, then she wouldn't be fat, right? but is the problem actually I was just doing a takeoff on what's her face
Starting point is 00:11:42 what's her face the guy called her well no butter face but her actually when you think about it that is true she does look fine except for the face because her face has that yappy fucking mouth in the middle of it that is constantly going n n n n n n n n n saying stupid things
Starting point is 00:11:56 about a business that she shouldn't be involved in or allowed in because she doesn't respect it and she doesn't appreciate it she thinks she's a fucking performance artist like the rest of them that pull their fucking bloody tampons out their twots and stuff them in other people's mouths or stick blow pops up each other's asses or wrestle the invisible man or have invisible hand grenades or fucking do all this other
Starting point is 00:12:18 stupid shit it looks like a fucking circus side show without the bearded lady i guess jordan grace does not shave so she's not the bearded lady that's the fucking problem but i was putting her over when you think about it because if everything's okay but her face if she just shut that fucking of hers where it's not needed, then she might have a decent face too. But anyway, so I trended on Twitter and these people lost their fucking minds. And now, let's put this in context. We have a lunatic, a criminal, mentally unstable lunatic in the White House. We have people getting shot down by high-powered automatic assault rifles and weapons
Starting point is 00:13:05 of war on our streets on a daily basis. we may be going into a recession because of another Republican administration. The climate is the planet is melting. It was the hottest year on record last year. Problems, problems, problems. And these fucking cosplay wrestling fans melted down because I called a disrespectful twat who shouldn't be in a wrestling business because she doesn't appreciate it and doesn't even know what the fuck it is.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Butterface. That trended on Twitter. what has happened to people's fucking minds. It's a soft society now, Jim. The snowflakes were melting and it wasn't because of global warming. But anyway, so that's what everybody was up in arms about. And I then proceeded to have a bunch of fun with a lot of them because isn't it also ironic?
Starting point is 00:14:00 And I'm not even an Atlantis Morissette fan, but isn't it ironic? that the fans who think, well, wrestling should be silly and fun, and we should all laugh and just joke about it, they're the ones with no sense of humor. They're the ones that don't like to have fun, except when it's silly, stupid fun that makes the business and everybody in it look like imbeciles, like these fucking people. They don't like to have any fun.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Well, I had some fun at all y'all's expense. Because let me just explain this, one more time. Let me just try to explain this one more time. I don't care if you're a man or a woman. I don't care if you're gay or straight. I don't care if you're white, black, yellow, green, brown, blue, or polka dotted. If you approach the wrestling business like a goddamn
Starting point is 00:14:53 performance art, like a fucking high school drama class or a community theater for simpletons, like silly, phony bullshit, disrespectfully, I will verbally fuck you up. I'm an equal opportunity cusser-outer. If you don't have any respect for the wrestling business, I don't have any respect for you. And as I mentioned last week on the program, because of the wrestlers,
Starting point is 00:15:24 supposed wrestlers want to be wrestlers. Now they don't want to be called wrestlers. Good, because I don't want to call your wrestlers. You shouldn't be. But when they lead by example, just like fucking president pig shit, when they lead by example, by saying this stuff is okay, that's where the fans get the idea it's okay. And that's where I want to let you know that it ain't okay with everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It ain't okay with me. It ain't okay with people that actually give a shit about what's happening to the fucking business and what you people are doing to it. And just because I'm the only one that doesn't need to suck up or kiss ass or go along to get a payday because obviously don't fucking need it. That's no reason to fucking, oh, he's a horrible human being. No, I'm just a truthful, factual human being. If you wanted to go out with your fucking dildos and your blow pops and your jock straps,
Starting point is 00:16:21 your tampons, your invisible hand grenades, whatever, and go fuck up another line of work, somebody else's sport and profession, make it fucking silly and stupid, then that's fine with me because I don't have a dog in that fight. But when you're doing it to wrestling, I got a problem with that, and I'm going to say something about it. And for all of you people who thought, oh, my God, well, this man should be real. Who are you going to get me fired from? I work for myself.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And I'm quite busy enough now. I wish you'd get me fired off a couple of things. Problem is, I'd have to fire me. But as far as what the rest of you fucking cosplay wrestling fans think, I could give a French-fried teddy fuck what you think of me. and Jordan Butterfell, and can you just not hear Bruce Buffer saying that?
Starting point is 00:17:10 And here she is Jordan Butterface Grace! I think it flows. I think maybe, and as a matter of fact, we'll get to it. She's found a new gimmick. Well, actually, it looks like from what I see here,
Starting point is 00:17:22 she's already selling T-shirts with it. Yes, well, that's where I was going with this. Because I was, but that's why basically, if you cosplay wrestling fans have a problem with what I say, I'm sorry. I just don't have time to give a fuck, right?
Starting point is 00:17:36 And if Jordan Butterface Grace or any of the rest of these fucking cosplay wrestlers resent me that bad because I don't have to go along with their bullshit because I don't need the work, then I'm sorry for that too. But as I've said many times before, if you don't want to be thought stupid, don't say and do stupid things. If you don't want to be a wrestler, you don't want to be in a wrestling business, then please don't be in it instead of fucking it up for everybody else
Starting point is 00:18:07 but I was able in this instance to smarten this chick up I smartened this gal up how condescending can I possibly be to a female today let me see I smartened well I don't go there but anyway I smartened her up a little bit because she did start selling
Starting point is 00:18:28 I saw this on the Twitter she started selling Jordan Grace T-shirts with her name crossed out and Butterface down below. And from what I understand or what I'm being led to believe by the tweet that I read, the proceeds from that shirt will go to buy teachers. I've had it for a while and I was trying to save it, then I lost it, so I can't read it, but I'll paraphrase. Basically, you know how sometimes teachers buy school supplies for their students because the kids, you don't have the money and the school board
Starting point is 00:19:01 doesn't have the money so the teachers are chipping in to buy books and pencils and school supplies and stuff, right? Not even sometimes. A lot of the time. Well, a lot of times. So she is using the proceeds from the Butterface T-shirt to go to the teachers who have to buy school splice for the kids,
Starting point is 00:19:17 which I actually think is a decent thing to do. So I tell you what I'm going to do. I lost the tweet and I don't know and I'm not going to, I don't want a Jordan Grace T-shirt. And I'm not just going to send Jordan Grace money. But if somebody out there
Starting point is 00:19:33 can tell me where the link is or what the charity is or how I could donate directly, I would like to give $250 to the fund that raises money for the teachers buying school supplies for the students. And I will double that
Starting point is 00:19:51 if Jordan Grace, because I understand that apparently she's a teacher part-time or she has been a teacher or whatever, she's not that old. She hadn't been a wrestling at long. Hopefully it won't be much longer. But if Jordan Grace will agree to quit wrestling and teach school full time, then I'll double it to $500. Well, hold on now. So you value her career at $250? No, but if I gave what I value her career at, people would go, well, that cheap son of a bitch, right? So I'm boosting it up. But I'll give $250 regardless. If a cult member
Starting point is 00:20:26 somebody out there can alert me to where I can actually send it to a legitimate charity instead of a Cara Jordan Grace because I don't know her personally. But it sounds like a good cause there. So I'll give 250. But if she'll give up wrestling since she obviously doesn't want to be a wrestler anyway and she hates it because she wants to change the name of it. And she feels it's being held back by being called a sport. Well, you fucking. I'll double it to 500.
Starting point is 00:20:53 If she'll get the fuck out of it. Can we actually, real quick, just address what she actually said, though, the actual context of what she said. Let's discuss it should be called performance art and not pro wrestling. If we could just discuss that for a second, I think that is completely fucking stupid. And I know a lot of other people think it's really fucking dumb. I'm just curious what your take is. I'm passed really fucking dumb and really fucking stupid into, God damn it, just these insufferable male and female cunts and twots and fucking pieces of shit and gutless spineless bitches that have to turn
Starting point is 00:21:33 this into a goddamn joke. And I said last week, if the wrestling business is going to die, just let it die. Don't sodomize the fucking corpse on the way out to where an entire generation of people is going to remember that this is what pro wrestling was, this silliness and foolishness and nobody taking anything seriously and taking bumps for invisibility. men and it's a performance art and I'm a performance artist so was G.G. Allen, Jordan, go shit on some French fries. Leave my business alone. It's just, it's, I get the same facial expression that Stan Lane did when he found out that there actually was a promotion using
Starting point is 00:22:19 the invisible man. You, you look like somebody is sodomizing your child. It's, it, it's, I don't know what wrestling schools that these people did or did not go to, or what training they had that didn't instill this in them. I don't know why this whole attitude came about, that this is in some way acceptable, what they do. I mean, I thought we were going off the deep end 15, 20 years ago when everybody was doing all the stupid shit then, which at least we didn't have an invisible man.
Starting point is 00:22:56 and at least the guys still considered themselves athletes and called themselves wrestlers but now it's gotten to the and and once again when did everybody become such a fucking offended pussy i never got offended if you know i was fat even though as we've mentioned butterface doesn't mean fat i was fat for a significant portion of my career and if i got offended every time somebody yelled at me hey you fat fuck. Well, I didn't, I was too busy watching for people pulling knives out of their pockets to cut me and jumping over the cops to punch me in the face and willingly go to jail to worry about being insulted by being called names. These are professional wrestlers now. And they're so
Starting point is 00:23:44 offended and they're so pussyish. The males and the females. Good fucking Christ. And I guess the one guy from England, maybe he wants Jordan Grace to to fuck him. So he had to jump in and defend her to try to get some fucking points in some respect. But the men and the women. What the fuck? You little fucking fragile flowers would not have lasted
Starting point is 00:24:14 15 seconds in a fucking wrestling arena or a wrestling locker room. And now because it's the goddamn equivalent of high school study hall, in a fucking locker room. You walk in all these guys on their fucking, and girls on her fucking phones texting each other in the same room and trying to figure out ways that they can do stupid shit
Starting point is 00:24:36 to make people laugh in barns in front of fucking 14 people. So anyway, thank you, darling. You don't need to thank me. You're welcome for the gimmick that I got you. That now, if you use this name, people might actually know who you are. says every time you establish a name, then you go ahead and change it. I also, I heard, to be honest, somebody on Twitter said, oh, she's just using her real name because she just got married and she's so googly over it.
Starting point is 00:25:09 What the fuck? Do you know, the letter from the fabulous Mula that I just read? You know how it was signed? Mula! You think Abdullah the butcher wrote guys letters and signed it Larry? When Carl Gotch met people, he shook their hand and said, Gotch, he didn't go, hi, I'm Carl Istas. Yeah, Gotch.
Starting point is 00:25:32 What the, I'm just, and what, help me, Brian, because you're, you're in between. You're not as young as these fucking goofy twats, but you're younger than I am. Why would anyone imagine that I would not be offended? Why do they imagine that really anybody from the actual wrestling business, of years ago isn't offended. It's just that some of them cover up for it because they want to pay off. But why would anybody think that I would not be offended at something like that? Why is that not offensive?
Starting point is 00:26:05 I'm pretty sure everyone knew right away that you would be offended by what she said. Why wouldn't you if you're in the wrestling business or have been in the wrestling business? Not now. There's nothing to be proud of now. But why would anybody that's ever been in a wrestling business not be offended at something like that? and like I said, some of them just cover it up because they need to pay off.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I don't know. It's a sad state of affairs. It's a sad, sad, it's a sad, sad situation and it's getting more and more absurd. But anyway, so I just wanted to clarify, 250 bucks to the charity. I'll double it to 500 if she'll quit to business. And I know, once again, that's valuing her career at $250, but I'm making good money, so I've got the extra money to spend. I don't mind paying more than retail.
Starting point is 00:27:06 What do you got? I just, you know, I'm just picturing you sitting there drinking the tears again. Oh, wait, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I didn't mean for you to do the actual sound again. All right, I won't. Well, thank you. Thank you. Why do they think, why do they think that they're upsetting me
Starting point is 00:27:22 when they just show me that I'm right? I don't know, but it seems like to be right. It seems like a good move. Everybody knows me loves that, that knows that I love to be right. And so I don't think they continue to be. You know, when you're a rock star, the best career move you could have is to die
Starting point is 00:27:38 because then your catalog starts selling. When you're an indie wrestler who may or may not suck, I've never seen this woman wrestle. The best thing to do for your career is to fight with you on Twitter because then you'll get a contract. You will somehow get a contract out of that. Well, yeah, well, yeah, because it goes back to the head cosplay wrestlers, you know, that are bilking the billionaire.
Starting point is 00:27:59 They're naturally going to want to get people that will support. them on their side. So the whole All Elite Wrestling roster is being built by basically virtue of me deciding which ones are the absolute worst, most offensive wrestlers in the world and they get contracts.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I don't know. But that's, hey, that's a great thing to do with your money when you got plenty of it. Tony, can't say anything bad about that. It's his dad's money. It's not his money. Well, well, it's all in the family. It's all in the family. By the way, Glenn Miller.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Anyway. Guys like us, we had it made. No, we're not doing this. Those were the days. And you know where you were? Girls were girls and men were men. Mr. We could use a man like Hoybutt Hoover again. I broke Twitter again.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Every time that I trend on Twitter, I miss it. Remember the last time I trended on Twitter because, if you don't remember this i trended on twitter because i called somebody butterface and i had walked away and gone to run some errands or whatever and come back and oh my god and i'm trending and all this other stuff and it's just the most insane thing in the world and uh that was that the the lovely and talented jordan grace who ending up as as an apology to her i uh donated two hundred and fifty dollars to adopt a classroom dot org, I believe, as a result of that.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Because I didn't realize that the wrestlers were this, you know, sensitive these days. Anyway, this past week, it was Tuesday. A day like any other day, I left a small town for the apple and decay. Actually, I left my office for the kitchen. Tuesday evening, I'm about 605. I was trying to be a good boy so I tweeted the NWA tweet
Starting point is 00:30:10 that power was about to come on the air and there was a great match between Trevor Murdoch and Nick Aldous that was in the picture, the feature of the twit the tweet the tweet. Yes, not the twit. Yes, there was no, there was no twits involved. But anyway, so I tweet, I retweet that
Starting point is 00:30:27 so everybody will know to watch. And then I go downstairs because I've got a bunch of cornets collectibles to do. and I about 730 or so the phone rang and I look I saw it was David Ligana because I still had my phone downstairs I'd been making phone call didn't put it back in the office so I answer it and it's a dial tone and I like what's it maybe he asked dialed me so I call him right back and immediately get his voicemail like his phone's turned off I'm like well I don't know what to fuck but hey David tried to get back with you um you know I'm going to have
Starting point is 00:31:03 or good evening. I do say good day, whatever the fuck, right? And I put phone back in the office and I go back downstairs and I eat and I finish Cornets collectibles and I have a nice night sleep and I get up on Wednesday morning and I sit down to computer and I have broken the goddamn world. And apparently I trended on Twitter. I was, I mean the notifications on my Twitter page were just, it was just ludicrous. I couldn't even begin to go through all that shit. And everybody is screaming either, you horrible human being.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I hope they put you on a fucking, you know, steak and set you on fire in the town square, you motherfucker. I'm like, what in the fuck? And then other people go, well, I don't know what you're fucking so mad about. Everybody's making a big deal. He made a joke. I'm like, what the fucking joke?
Starting point is 00:31:56 And I go, and then I see, well, I also, I see that the NWA took the program down off YouTube after it aired and edited it to take five seconds of audio out and put it back up and issued a statement basically saying we strongly apologize for the offensive remarks made by one of our talents. And Brian, you know what it was. But I'm doing this buildup because some, people that live under a rock and have not been bombarded by this may not actually know what this
Starting point is 00:32:34 fucking uproar was about. It was because during the match between Trevor Murdoch and Nick Aldous, I used the joke that I first coined for Big Bubba Rogers. Murdoch is so tough he could strap a bucket of frat chicken on his back and ride a motor scooter across Ethiopia. That's what happened. This is why I broke Twitter again. I told old a 30-year-old Ethiopian joke about starvation. So anyway, I'm going to what in the fuck is going on in the world? So right as I'm trying to digest all this, the phone rings. It's 8.30 in the morning and it's David Ligana.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I said, what in the fuck is going on? And he tells me that obviously the all elite, wrestling, cosplay, wrestling, fanboy, fan girl contingent. Immediately, after the show was over, started tweeting about this and creating an uproar, like I had been describing my favorite bestiality videos on a fucking live broadcast. This was the level of fucking hatred. And the other people are going, what the fuck are you talking about? It's a joke, we get it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 He's told it before for 30 fucking years. about hungry people and Big Bubba, or in this case Trevor Murdoch. So, at any rate, David is talking about, well, an apology and a statement and this and that. And to back up a couple weeks, it was just two or three weeks ago, and people can find the program on the YouTube channel if they want to listen to it, where we discussed the controversy where David had called me one morning and said, Jim, did you tell us? somebody to kill themselves. I said, no. Did you, did you make fun of suicide? I said, no. He said, then why is everybody saying you did? I said, because they're saying it on Twitter. And it was the same instance. Well, we got to put out a statement. I said, how can I apologize for something I didn't say that these fucking people are mad because I don't like their favorite
Starting point is 00:34:51 wrestler have said, I said, and they're butt hurt and they take it to wrong way. And they just try to get offended. I said, so I can't apologize because they're insane. that. However, you can certainly reprimand me for it, which you are, and tell me how serious you're taking it, which you are. And then that that's the statement they put out. And then we did the program, Brian, you and I, where I basically said, I will continue not to do those things that I didn't do. That was what, about three weeks ago? That sounds about right. I don't somewhere around it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So anyway, in this case, I said, David, this was a taped show. I said, what did you think about it when you heard it? He said, well, it went right past me. I said, you think? I said, why was there this level of, well, they were so upset on Twitter. That's another thing I talked about with him before. if you give these people the idea that every time they complain about something, you'll just jump around apologizing whether it was said or whether it was meant in a bad way or
Starting point is 00:36:07 whatever the fuck, then they will do it all the time and he's already proven that he will do that. That was brought up. And also, I mentioned I don't appreciate, as I said, what of our talents making an offensive statement or offensive comments like, like I was fucking the level of disgust is like I was boiling babies to sacrifice in service of Satan on live television. And I said,
Starting point is 00:36:37 I don't appreciate being grouped in all these apologies for shit that I'm not necessarily sorry for, which we'll get to in a second. Because there's levels of fucking importance that these things should be assigned. And I'll tell you exactly where I thought, I want to tell you where the joke came from. from. And truthfully and honestly, as I mentioned to you yesterday, I can't remember whether I stole it or not.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Somebody said it might be Richard Pryor, but we couldn't find evidence of that. I always remember that I made it up because in the 80s, as you might not recall, because you're not very old, everybody was telling Ethiopian jokes because it was huge news on a mainstream basis. That was what was it wasn't we are the world it was we are live aid live aid was for the Ethiopian famine every comic on television was making Ethiopian jokes every kid in school was making Ethiopian jokes
Starting point is 00:37:35 and I remember the first time that I said it because I was in a car with Big Bubba Rogers and because when Bubba rode with us we would always drop our cars off to holiday and on Woodlawn in Charlotte right and take whoever's car was driving and right next to it was a
Starting point is 00:37:54 Bojangles chicken where we would often get chicken so I may very well have been just finished eating some chicken but I hit him with because I'm always looking for ways to fucking get Bubba over on goddamn television in the promos
Starting point is 00:38:09 Big Bubba Rogers is so bad he could ride a strap a bucket of fried chicken on his back and ride a motor scooter across Ethiopia number one the motor scooter is there for the preposterous visual because he's not necessarily
Starting point is 00:38:25 going to be in an armored car else he wouldn't be in much danger he's completely as somebody several people on Twitter actually deconstructed this joke as in the comic principles you've got a large man who's so tough that he's unafraid to take food to a famine ravaged location
Starting point is 00:38:42 you've got a preposterous visual means of transportation and somebody said well if he hadn't a said chicken it had been fine well it's a chicken a bucket of chicken sounds funnier it's funnier visual than a fucking plate of sushi or a goddamn ham sandwich so it just happened to be that because that was funny and then because Ethiopia was noted for a place where everybody fucking starving it's a starvation joke not a race joke starvation starvation starvation is a hilarious
Starting point is 00:39:18 topic. But everybody was doing them. So the point is, whether it's a good joke or a bad joke, and I'm going to let you express your opinions here in a few minutes, Brian, because I know you have some, and you'll share them with us. But whether it's a good joke or a bad joke, it was a joke that has been told on TBS, USA Network, broadcast television stations across America. over a variety of locations for the past 30 years.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Somebody, as a matter of fact, even found a 1995 fucking superstars taping where I was doing color on a Bob Backlin match and fucking used it in the process of doing something, I don't know what. But it boggles the mind that somebody could find that on command. Like, oh, Cornett told a joke all the hundreds and thousands of hours of WWF programming
Starting point is 00:40:16 I've been on. But anyway, the point is a joke that's been told over a period of decades on multiple broadcast platforms subtly and good for YouTube. I said not only, besides the fact that when I said it, Joe Galley was sitting next to me, he didn't clutch his heart and fall over shit his pants.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Nobody in the control room thought to pull the plug like they did when I mentioned Ronnie and the Challenger. Nobody remarked on the comment afterwards. And in the six weeks, the show's been sitting in the can and then gone through the editing process and got ready for broadcast, nobody thought to bring it up. So when I asked Dave,
Starting point is 00:41:09 I said, what do you think when you heard? He just went right past me. You think. Because nobody thought, thing about it that had heard it because it's a fucking old joke. Now, the degrees of these things, if anywhere during that process, if when I had said it, the producer, one of whom is Dave Laganah, but there's a variety of people that can talk to us
Starting point is 00:41:34 on our headsets had said, oh, Jim, don't say that. Okay, sorry. If after the show, well, we're going to have to take that one joke out. Okay, fine. Sorry to make you have extra work. right? If anybody called me up and said, Jim, you told that joke? You have told it a bunch of times while it's racist. Okay? I didn't know that because I was thinking it was fucking funny because the people in Ethiopia were hungry. I was a big fan of the Starvin Marvin episode of South Park also.
Starting point is 00:42:07 You ever see that one, Brian? Starvin Marvin. I have, yes. Yeah, a lot of people thought that was funny too. Anyway, if anybody had called me and said, oh, we've got to take it out. I said, okay, I wouldn't have realized. Thank you for bringing it up. I won't use it again. Sorry to cause you extra work. Up to and including as I was thinking about it that morning.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And I, here's one thing about, I do apologize when I feel bad about some things. And I've apologized to Dave Lagana because when I started going over some of these things and the fact that I'd mentioned that when you start fucking apologizing for everything, because these people that don't even watch the show and, just don't like me, start whining about shit, then they know they've got you and all these other things. You know this experience, Brian, when I'm talking about something to somebody that pisses me, that this thing is pissing me off and I'm describing more of it, I tend to wind myself up.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I've never done that at you. You and I have never had a crossword, but I have done it at you about others, right? Certainly. So I did apologize because the more I started talking about, this with Dave I ended up I didn't go full on fuck you but I did get very terse and quitting hung up on him so I apologized since then for hanging up on him but that was the thing the degree of this thing if their statement if instead of taking the
Starting point is 00:43:40 thing down and issuing the statement that it sounds like that I was in favor of sodomizing the nuns at the fucking convent or some just unspeakably horrible shit to get everybody to jump on it even further and to call attention to it if instead a statement had been put out or he couldn't get me so the next morning I would have chimed in on this
Starting point is 00:44:04 whatever the fuck hey one of the announcers told an old joke that was probably in poor taste and we missed it in editing and we sure do apologize and we won't do that again I could pretty much be on board with that too.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Especially since I'm not trying to bury him. Dave's the one that edited the show, and he's the one writing the apology. And he didn't include himself. He just didn't mention me by name, but I think everybody knew who he's talking about. And suddenly this was shocked to everybody that this line was in this program
Starting point is 00:44:38 that multiple people have heard and nobody gave a shit about. So that was my issue there. another of the issues was that to be honest this was rapidly as I said to him
Starting point is 00:44:56 I think the quote was not becoming not fun anymore for anybody I'm sure they don't want to go through this shit but the only reason I was doing this program it was not as a career it was because I like the NWA I like old-fashioned wrestling I wanted to help
Starting point is 00:45:13 the program and have some fun I was being compensated but this is not going to affect my standard of living. It was about just doing something once in a while that was contributing to a program that's actually trying to do wrestling. So if it ain't fun for me, because I got to put up with every two weeks being asked to apologize for shit, that I'm either not sorry for it because I didn't say,
Starting point is 00:45:39 or I'm not sorry for it to the degree, the people are goddamn wanting me fucking stuck up the ass with a goddamn fucking telephone pole and swung around downtown, I'm not that sorry because it was a joke, and if you don't like the joke, that's fine,
Starting point is 00:45:56 and I'd even apologize for a bad joke. But this goddamn feedback was above and beyond the offense, and I didn't mean it in any racist way. For fuck's sake. I think the people that took it instantly as racist think that must be.
Starting point is 00:46:15 be the only thing on people's minds when I think of black people and chicken. Which that's a whole other issue that you got because I'm going for starving Marvin. You didn't like the fucking joke, did you? No, I thought the joke at best is a outdated joke.
Starting point is 00:46:34 That's maybe at best the best thing I could say about. I don't like the joke. I think that obviously in 2019, but probably even further back than that, unless you're a heel manager trying to generate heat for your big bodyguard, it's probably best to avoid a joke equating African, well, I was about to say African Americans, in this case Africans with fried chicken because of this reaction. It's a tasty food, though. I eat a bunch of it myself. But yes, I understand what you're saying. But here's the problem. Because I in no way was going in that thinking in that direction, it was a surprise to me when, and I also, because as I, I've said it multiple times on multiple programs governed by the FCC. Nobody's ever said a goddamn.
Starting point is 00:47:22 As a matter of fact, fans at the fan fest, especially in Charlotte, 20 years after the fact, have come up to me talking about Big Bubba and talking about that line and laughing. So it was on my mind. We did four hours of television off top of my head. And boy, after the thousands of hours of television that I've done, if you think I don't repeat some, well, you're fucking crazy. So I just said it.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And they could have either trimmed it or they could have fucking apologized in a rational fashion for a bad joke. And I am not at all offended by the way that you just said, well, you know, if I goddamn got upset because everybody's, oh, that was a fucking rotten joke cornet,
Starting point is 00:48:09 then I would be crazy. So I'm not offended. that way because you've said it like a reasonable person. Well, if I can expand upon this for a moment, if you'll indulge me for a moment. Please, please expand. Let me first start by saying, I've known you now for 25 years. I have not just known you through doing this podcast where it's two friends talking about wrestling, but I've known you outside of wrestling.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I've known you, we've had, you know, social get-togethers when you've come to the city. Social intercourse. Well, let's not go crazy, but we've had occasions where you come to the city and me and you and our significant others have gone out on the town and it had nothing to do at wrestling. It was more about just us having fun. If I thought for a second that you were a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, an anti-Semite, or anything else, I wouldn't be talking to you and I wouldn't be doing this show. And I'm pretty sensitive to these things.
Starting point is 00:48:59 As anyone who's ever heard 605 could probably attest to, I'm in a lot of ways a militant Jew. And what I mean is I'm very defensive about anti-Sembourg. If I hear it, if I think it's there, I will go on the attack. I have hit people in the past. If I thought I heard a comment that was anti-Semitic. And remember, I've asked you because it was such a non-issue with me growing up. And I don't remember my mother ever saying the word Jewish to differentiate somebody from whatever the point is, I've asked you on a couple of occasions.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Why are people mad at Jewish people again? right yeah because i don't fucking get it no we've had talks about it like i said if i really thought you were any of these things that a lot of the people who are predisposed and not liking you say or think i wouldn't be doing this i'm a fucking liberal you know i'm an independent liberal i'm the guy who would have a problem with this you know and i've and i've also i've admitted and we've covered it on the program here too and you can go back and look at that if you want to folks that was months and months ago if not last year or whatever but i've had a problem in the past as we know with anger management.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And when I, in a few cases, when I've been in an actual fucking altercation with somebody, I've used some words that were not preferable. And I've apologized for those because I realize in the 25 or 30 years hence that it can't be applied just to one person. But my downfall has been in a lot of cases when I'm mad at somebody and especially if it's a goddamn fight in the middle of fucking wrestling beef, I'm going to say some shit to make that person fucking mad. But I have apologized for those things because I really felt bad about it. Right. And I think, you know, I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying there, but
Starting point is 00:50:55 I think if I can make two points based on this, one is I could understand some sensitivity to this because if you had made that same joke and it had been Jewish people instead of Ethiopians and it have been whatever, you know, people want to say money or something instead of fried chicken, I would have been offended. I would have had a problem with that. But it wouldn't have made any, well, that wouldn't have really made any sense. But, but my point is, yes, yeah. I think it's a bad joke.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I think it's, it's an ill-conceived line, especially in 2019. But I wasn't offended by it because I don't think you had any, I know you didn't have any malicious intent when making that comment. You were trying to make a joke and it was pretty quick and it was glossed over. And by the way, I've always. always liked it because when I first told it to fucking Bubba, he fucking died laughing and he had that high-pitched giggle laugh for that big fucking hefty guy. And that's what, and that's why I said it on TV the first time. And I've just had it. I don't know. Go ahead. I'm sorry. But, you know, my point was going to be, if someone makes an anti-Semitic remark, I don't need to hear Christians or Catholics or Muslims or atheists or anyone else telling me what is or is an anti-Semitic. And I think the same thing goes for something like this. It wasn't race. The intent wasn't racist. At best, it was a throwaway line.
Starting point is 00:52:11 But I also don't need to hear a bunch of white boys telling me that this is racist. If you're an African American, or in this case an African, and you want to tell me that it was offensive, that you thought it was racist, there's validity there. I want to hear what you have to say. I don't want to hear what some fucking white kid in their 20s thinks about this, because I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:52:29 The same way I wouldn't give a shit if someone who wasn't Jewish told me what is or isn't anti-Semitic. And that, and that bothers me. And that bothers me. And like I said, I think it was a bad line. I think it was a bad joke. I think it should have been edited out, quite frankly. But your intent wasn't racist.
Starting point is 00:52:48 It wasn't said in, I mean, it wasn't, it just, it blows my mind that people have run with this. But look, the other part of it is you know you have a target on your back. You have said a lot of shit about a lot of people. And those are typically the people that are the first ones that jump up and say, look, we got them. but I think this was entirely blown out of proportion but again it's well and and the the proportion again is the thing with me and as you said if if some of if some of the criticism or whatever had been tempered in any way in fucking reality
Starting point is 00:53:24 like you know you really ought to apologize for that because people are going to take that wrong not oh my god this is no good miserable piece of shit I'm going to read a piece of mail in a minute that's kind of of indicative of and no to you people fuck you just fuck you because I don't give a shit whether you like me or not and if I apologized out the ass if I fucking if I carved off a pound of flesh
Starting point is 00:53:49 and flung it out at everybody you'd still find something else to bitch about next week because you don't like me because I tell the truth about your favorite wrestlers or your favorite politicians or whatever so to those people fuck you to anybody that was legitimately
Starting point is 00:54:08 and then as you said I've had so many people say what the fuck I was dying laughing it was hysterical because some people actually liked it they thought it was funny but hey you know people have different senses of humor right but if anybody that had actually
Starting point is 00:54:24 taken the line of you know what Jim that you know it was probably funny a few years ago or whatever but otherwise you know you might not do it today, fine. Okay, I could even get with that and I could apologize with that, but not with we're gonna fucking boil you, you know, you horrible human beings. Do you know, do you know, the guy that was popped by the feds and fined hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars and sanctioned legally for basically saying, I do not want black people to live in my buildings, is the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:55:07 And the fucking members of his administration are currently on national television all day, testifying under oath on fucking global worldwide TV that he's a fucking crook. And an Ethiopian joke from 1986, I'm the worst human in the world, to those people. Fuck you. if anybody came at me with tempered fucking rational criticism such as you just did this might have turned out a little bit better also as well but I you know instantly it put me off as they say the whole fucking thing
Starting point is 00:55:47 but whether it's overreacting to something it wasn't intended in that way or whether it was goddamn retroactively fucking blaming me for everything when the thing passed through several sets of ears. For all the people that are just over fucking blown about this, that fuck you. People who were mildly offended, I apologize because it wasn't meant that way. Of course, that's not good enough for anybody. And for the, once again, for what I've seen back and forth on Twitter, depending on the fucking hour of the day, some of my legitimate followers actually have jobs and lives and, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:27 or not on all day long. But there was, yeah, we love you, Corny. So anyway, the point with the NWA show is it wasn't fun for them either because for some reason, I don't know what this reason might be. I overshadow everything, everybody on every program I get on, whether for good or bad. The good comments are, well, Cornett's the best of the world of what he does, which I am. and he's the best thing on the show and the bad comments are, I will never watch this as long as Cornette.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Of course, they're watching it and be getting mad, but I won't watch this if Cornett's involved. I hate him. I never want to see him. But that's the only thing people talk about. And they're trying to start a fucking promotion and a goddamn television show, and that's probably the last thing they want. I brought a lot. And I'm not asking people to not watch the NWA, the opposite.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Part of the reason I don't want to be involved anymore is because it's not fun for me because I'm distracting from what they're trying to do. And part of it is just that there's no reason to penalize all these guys that are working hard because a bunch of people who don't watch the program and don't like that style of wrestling anyway because it makes sense. Don't like me because I take the piss out of their fucking cosplay wrestlers. So that's honestly and truthfully, why, as I've mentioned over the last three or four years,
Starting point is 00:57:56 I've tried to stay away from fucking actively being involved in the wrestling business, and people won't quit calling me. But, you know, I find a good point. I try to pre-screen. I had asked Cord Bauer at MLW. And that was only a part-time thing anyway, but I said, I won't be calling any invisible men, right? Oh, no, we're doing wrestling.
Starting point is 00:58:18 But then I was calling staple guns. What to fuck? But I wasn't goddamn fucking screaming and yelling. at every opportunity over it because I was just there to do my thing for a little while and I actually was told at one point, oh, we're not going to be doing some of that stuff anymore with that guy. And then they did it anyway.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Nevertheless, with the NWA, I was safe there because they're not going to make fun of the business. That's the antithesis of what they're doing and do stupid shit like that. So that was fine with me. And I was glad to bring our listeners that like wrestling the old-fashioned way along with me.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I encourage you if you like the program, keep watching it, whether I'm on it or not. If you only watch because of me and you didn't like the rest of it, well, I'm not going to fucking torture you and ask you to make goddamn sacrifices, but I think it's a good show and it'll get more fun as time goes along. But I cannot, but that's one of the reasons why I've tried to stay away. because the fucking the wrestling business
Starting point is 00:59:28 for one reason or another has just been whether inside or outside has been just systematically stripped of any shred left of fun may I ask you a question
Starting point is 00:59:44 sure the statement that was issued by David Wagona says that you resign you said that name in a very goddamn it said that you you resigned, you know, made it sound like it was a formal process where you tendered this written resignation. Did you quit or were you fired? No, well, no, but I, he didn't get a chance to fire me if he was going to because that's basically when I said, I got wound up and I was talking and he was
Starting point is 01:00:07 listening. I said, fuck it. It ain't fun anymore. You don't want this. I don't want this. I'm fucking sick of it. I'm fucking done. I'm hung up on him. But once again, it doesn't matter. So the, the, the cosplay wrestling fan warriors can be happy that I'm no longer on the NWA, and I'm sorry that it's not costing me any more money, and I, you know, I guess I'll find some way to fill those two days every two months, but you know,
Starting point is 01:00:37 but it's not fun for any of the people who think that wrestling ought to be silly and fun, the only company and person trying to do it in a serious way, and, you know, that ain't, that ain't good enough for them. So anyway, and have fun doing it. But no,
Starting point is 01:00:52 that's, I'm not going on a crusade against the NWA. I don't want to be grouped in any more of these fucking apologies. That's, as I said, that's why I've been doing my own thing. So I either apologize when I'm genuinely sorry for something like I have and we've referred to and et cetera, or I don't give a fuck, which is a majority of the time, but I don't want to hurt someone that I'm working with because I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:01:20 And none of these people are paying me enough money to not give a fuck or to give a fuck or whichever the fucking tense on that would be. Well, the reason I asked you is just because I've seen various things that the listeners are just people who aren't listeners who just want to comment on this or saying where the NWA was right to get rid of them. And I know the people said Jim was right to quit. So I just wanted you to clarify exactly what happened. That was the exchange. Now, you know, I don't know whether it would have gotten around to that or not. but David was at first beating around the bush about statements and apologies and things. And I didn't like that tender to begin with.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And that's where it kind of got sideways from there. That's what I trended on Twitter for last way. Say, we haven't spoken publicly in several days. And we were doing the experience that aired what normally this past Saturday as it was. We were doing that when we heard that I was getting the blame for Watergate. the guy jumping in the ring and I trended on Twitter while we're peacefully doing our podcast, I guess. People afterwards were like, you were trending worldwide on Twitter. Without this time, without doing anything, saying anything, or actually being involved in any way in the incident
Starting point is 01:02:38 that sparked people to talk about me. Has anyone else ever done this before? I said one time I could trend on Twitter for taking a shit, but this time I didn't even shit. It was somebody else's shit. They just gave me credit for it. Of course, what you're referring to is there was a fan who jumped the rail at AEW Dynamite. We talked about that on the air and what a stupid guy he was. He attempted to attribute this act of stupidity to us, although I will say a lot of people have been, in the last few days especially saying that the guy may be full of shit because
Starting point is 01:03:16 apparently he's a Russo fan and apparently he's posted other things. and I don't know. That's the whole thing. No, that's the whole thing is he's an attention seeker. And so what he did was, apparently, he's some fat fuck that fantasizes that he's a professional wrestler and that he puts videos on the internet. He had been challenging Cody and Anthony a go-go to meet him somewhere,
Starting point is 01:03:46 or maybe on that day, because he knew he had tickets. I guess he didn't have the money to travel. He had tickets because he lives around there. Meet me on such and such a night. And he's cutting promos on them on the internet. And then he fucking at the taping on live television, he doesn't jump in the ring on Cody. A go-go's not there.
Starting point is 01:04:06 He jumps up on the ring, or he didn't get in the ring. He jumped up on the apron of the ring during Jericho's thing with MJF. I'm pretty sure because Jericho's the next best thing they've got to a star there. and he wanted to get on television. And then the next day, he tweeted, yeah, Jim Cornett, Brian, last, I did it for you because he knows that we have all these fucking listeners.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And he's trying to get, okay, now they'll praise me. He's an attention seeker. And for the record, because we were recording the show when all of this happened. Yeah. Once we were done, what did we do? We both immediately denounced the guy and told him he's an idiot and blocked him. Well, you denounced him.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I cussed him out. Yeah. That's true. You know, yours was just a simple denouncement. Mine was more extenuous. But the point is, no, since he cuts promos on this guy on the internet for attention, who's a star, and he jumps up on the apron of the ring or tries to get in the ring on Jericho, who's a star, and he fucking tweets, see, I did it for you guys, because we're stars.
Starting point is 01:05:13 He's an attention-seeking fuck wit who thinks he's somebody. and but the way apparently that that we trended he didn't we he wasn't trending when he was talking about Cody uh nobody trended when they told him he was a piece of shit I trended because fucking twinkle toes and to a lesser extent I guess Matt Hardy I may have blocked him or he may have blocked me I don't know I don't think I saw his shit and then of course Matt's perpetually pregnant wife on Twitter tried to blame me for it. Well, Cornett instigated him to do it. And even Jericho had tweeted,
Starting point is 01:05:54 you fucked in response to him saying he did it for us. You fucking idiot. Cornett would have shoved his tennis racket up your ass and broke all the windows out of your car because he knows me. But these other fucking dim wits, oh, Cornett instigated this type of attempted violence, attempted fame-mongering.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And we're going to talk about this here fairly extensively on the program the history of people jumping in the ring or getting involved and why and how it's changed in security because there's apparently some things they need to know about security now that I can give them some fucking helpful hints on since I've been through it from a different
Starting point is 01:06:34 side. But this guy's fame mongering and so they on Twitter want to blame me for instigating this and that's where I had the fucking little joust with twinkle toes because he wouldn't even name me. He just, well, it's time to tone down the online persona because he's such a phony he thinks everybody else is too.
Starting point is 01:06:58 And then he insulted the listeners. But I was about to say, but then he said, and his low IQ followers. I'm sorry, but our fans are not the ones that are watching a program written for kids by kids. and even if you have a problem with what I say, if you have a difference of opinion with whether I think you suck or not, I guess that's natural, but don't say that people at this show have low IQs just because you're used to seeing people like that at your programs.
Starting point is 01:07:32 So I'd fucking say a few things to him. But that's how fanatical, the boy, they put the fanatic in fan, how fanatical that these fucking AEW apologists, I wouldn't even say the fans, I don't even think most of their fans are this bad, just the hardcore AEW apologists on Twitter
Starting point is 01:07:55 and that just can't see any wrong, you know, possibly that worship at the altar of Uncle Dave, um, they picked it up and decided that it was my fault and made me trend on Twitter for once again something I didn't say, I didn't do, I wasn't there,
Starting point is 01:08:13 never met this fucking guy. He didn't mention my name after he did it. So I just wish you guys would stop for one thing because Jimcornet.com is still under construction, the new site, and Cornett's collectibles is not on sale. And every time I trend on Twitter, without having shit on sale, it cost me a fortune. So please hold
Starting point is 01:08:33 your trending until the upcoming announcement when we go open back up again. But anyway, the one thing that now that has come to light of the news of the past day, now that I'm back online, that made it just incredibly hilarious
Starting point is 01:08:53 that Rebbe Hardy had to jump in on this was the fact apparently she was tweeting mad at me from her bed of labor. She has just given birth, but three days ago, she was tweet. And I can't even remember what, do you have her tweets, or at least the tweet that instigated the whole thing,
Starting point is 01:09:15 where she blamed me or have you even looked for that stuff? I haven't. I haven't really looked for it. Okay, well, I basically, I don't care, but basically she says something to the effect of, well, Jim Cornett needs to fucking shut up or whatever. And I, because I used to have a ton of respect for the talent that her husband used to display on a regular basis, I have not told her nearly any of the things that's wrong with her, and I try to be polite. So I just tweeted back
Starting point is 01:09:46 I know you've probably heard this thousands of times in your life But it applies here Was anybody fucking talking to you And then she comes back with a tirade It looked like a 14 year old teenage girl With LMFAO You use me for clickbait
Starting point is 01:10:08 My name and image thousands of times And yet nobody's asking you Because nobody's talking to you But you're still talking LMAO in capitals. What the fuck? And so apparently we have infringed
Starting point is 01:10:23 on Rebbe Hardy and that's why she's upset because we constantly talk about her and use her for clickbait on our wildly popular YouTube videos which constantly feature Rebby Hardy. I wish that somebody
Starting point is 01:10:39 could just go back and look. Somebody involved with our YouTube channel. could just go back and look and see how many of our highly rated and wildly popular YouTube videos have centered around Rebbe Hardy. I wish somebody could do that. Okay, I'm going to look. I'm going to go back
Starting point is 01:11:01 to the first video that mentions Hardy. There are no videos that actually mention the word Rebbe in the title. So I couldn't search for Rebbe. I could search for Hardy because she's married to someone famous. Yes. We are on the 7th. of fame seekers here. That's right. Here's you on the future of Matt Hardy, you reviewing some of his early AEW stuff that you didn't like. None of these images, by the way, the fantastic work of Travis Heckel, check it out, the official Jim Perkins'net YouTube channel. None of these
Starting point is 01:11:32 images that I've seen so far have featured any depiction, characterization, nothing of Rebbe Hardy. Here's one. This was after she... got mad because we talked about the email we got that was about her behavior on the set of whatever bad cinematic match Matt was having. Yeah, well, and let's clarify that. We got an email from a fan who knew somebody that had worked on the crew when they shot a cinematic match at the Hardy compound. And in the process of this like page and a half emailed documenting the things that had
Starting point is 01:12:12 gone on there and the observations that were made. Which were correct, by the way. Which were correct. It was mentioned that everybody was told, don't park next to Rebbe Hardy's car. And then we kind of made fun of the fact that at the end of this thing, for whatever reason that was not explained then and remains inexplicable to this day,
Starting point is 01:12:32 she was playing the piano in a barn in the final scene. And that was pretty much the conversation that was centered around Rebby Hardy. To my recollection, Is this correct? That is correct. So we, the clip for the original conversation about the email we received, that went up November 10th.
Starting point is 01:12:52 The response after her reaction was on November 14th. This appears to be the only video I could find that we have her image in, in the background playing the piano while Matt's making a dumb face in the front. The name of the video is Jim Cornett on Matt Hardy and his wife being upset with Jim's review of Elite Deletion. We have never used her name in any. clickbait and this is the only use of her image and it is so far in the back that no one would notice it in a thumbnail so anyway but here's it i'm not going to tell rebby hardy all the things that's wrong with her because now she's a brand new mother but that's the the fucking
Starting point is 01:13:30 thing is that three days ago she was accusing me i guess of being at the grassy knoll along with being responsible for this guy jumping in the ring on twitter and got from what i I saw, I know I've probably got the block record. I blocked a lot of people that probably would have an opposing view, but she got quite a bit of feedback telling her to mind her own beeswax as well and not as polite terms as I used. And then she's giving birth to, and Matt's three days ago. He's an expectant father.
Starting point is 01:14:08 She's about to give birth. And he's on Twitter, I guess, as I mentioned, I didn't see his equating me. this horrible violence and despicable conduct. I just want to say it before we get into the real problem here. If somebody can find a clip of mine where I encouraged people to go to their shows, jump in the ring and take matters into your own hands and beat somebody up, then I would be more than happy to sit down and listen to that clip. Because I don't remember saying it.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Now, I will say, Brian, I will go on record here, and people feel free, wrestling news sites, take this clip or take this transcript, I will admit full culpability and apologize publicly to anyone that's involved if some fan goes to an AEW show
Starting point is 01:15:03 and hits the ring, carrying a giant cauldron full of boiling oil, and a machine or apparatus capable of rendering said boiled oil and humans into fat to sell for soap, if they try to do that to anybody, I will apologize because that's my fault. But otherwise, I believe my hands are clean. I sincerely hope no one brings a wood chipper to the ring or I'm screwed.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Yeah, and Brian will apologize for woodchippers. but no I've never said anybody should get in the ring as a matter of fact I've said half the AEW roster don't belong in the ring I believe that's been my point not only do you fans out there not belong in the ring but most of them don't either point is they're all too fucking slack Brian now they've all convinced themselves
Starting point is 01:16:00 and there's no heat anymore nobody's going to try to do anything everybody's with it well now I think you know you've got a lot of scurry people in the world the very reason why everybody's with it and nobody's mad and it's all a fucking show and nobody takes this seriously is exactly what might entice these people to just fucking try to get on television. They think nothing's going to happen to them.
Starting point is 01:16:25 They think they can whip the guys in the ring or they're all working and we're all friends or whatever. Or they don't see police around. They just see some fucking schlub and a t-shirt that says security and you recognize him as the job guy from you YouTube? It's, it's, they don't, it used to be an intimidating thing as a fan to come in and see that fucking ring in front of a big arena full of people and the guys in it under the lights. Most people, unless they got drunk off their ass, didn't want to have anything to do with that. And I've seen guys jumping to ring convinced they were going to whip somebody and stand up and look around and fucking freeze.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Like, what the fuck have I done? And then they're toast. Terry Funk used to rip their pants off. His father taught him that. He said, Guy jumps in the ring no matter how mad he is. If you just grab him, that's how he did me on TV.
Starting point is 01:17:26 They'd do the fuck in Memphis that time. I didn't know it. But they do the marks like that. Grab the fucking back pockets and pull down. You pants that motherfucker and he's standing there either in his shorts or with his dingleberry hanging out in front of 5,000 people. He's done. but anyway, that's, you know, it used to be an intimidating thing.
Starting point is 01:17:47 There used to be a lot of cops around security. The guys looked like they kicked the shit out of you. There was no, you know, no reason, no motivation except anger to try that. But now it's just, what the fuck? Everybody's just jacking around. I think they're not, if they, if they're not taking it seriously on camera, I'm thinking the people off camera are taking it less seriously and just think, Oh, this is that we can all do this.
Starting point is 01:18:12 That's dangerous. What do you think? I think this was a lone nut. I think this was someone who, like you said, was seeking attention, someone who got the attention briefly that he wanted, probably someone that needs to talk to somebody and seek some help, quite frankly. But to the overall thing, it's an lone nut. I don't expect we'll see too much more of this, but it'll happen, especially as
Starting point is 01:18:38 alcohol starts getting reintegrate. introduced into the picture. It'll happen every now and then. In WCW, we saw people trying to get to the ring just to celebrate being there. So you never know. But like I said, when it comes to this and the blaming, most people got it right away. Give Chris Jericho credit. He got it right away. Quite frankly, I can't think of another wrestling personality ever who has endorsed the idea of beating fans who jumped the rail more than you. Who else ever? So I think it's all ridiculous and I think, you know, sometimes with some people like... And here's the thing, here's the thing, though.
Starting point is 01:19:17 That's what I was going to say is that everybody just got mortified about this guy because what in the world was he going to do? Like he didn't have a machete. He's a fat slub that was unarmed and couldn't get past Justin Roberts. Bless Justin for being a large man, but like you mentioned, it's not the size of the dog in the fight. Brian Hildebrand took some of these guys down too. and fucking showed him their own asshole. But he's trying to get attention, try to be part of the show,
Starting point is 01:19:47 jumps up on the apron, gets goozled by the ring announcer, and everybody was acting like, my God, Jericho and MJF escaped death at the hands of this homicidal maniac, just because they've not in the modern era seen shit like this.
Starting point is 01:20:05 And, you know, I hate to tell him. I would love to transport them back and show them a few things that they would have goddamn shit themselves about that used to happen. And we go, well, that happened again. You go on.
Starting point is 01:20:19 But the thing is the companies, and I'll say this again, and then you can follow up whatever you want to say, everybody has gotten lax and complacent on security. I mean, even the last several years I worked shows, you know, just here and there.
Starting point is 01:20:39 whether I was a baby face or a heal or whatever, I stopped even paying any attention, which was just because nothing was ever going to happen, but you never know. But even I stopped paying attention. And boy, I used to have a real good spidey sense about anybody that was close to me. So I think everybody's got complacent. They need to put security there that looks like security.
Starting point is 01:21:06 They need to make an announcement beforehand that obviously anyone crossing the barricade or the railing or whatever obstruction they have put up will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and they need to have somebody keeping an eye on this again because I'm not saying people are going to come in the ring and try to commit murder but there's a lot of stupid people that may just want to be part of the show so I start acting like a goddamn wrestling event again instead of a fucking playground and get some security
Starting point is 01:21:37 and what were you, finish what you were going to say, I apologize. I'm just all fired up. That's quite all right. A couple things I want to say, but one, because Omega kind of restarted it after it had started dying down after you had denounced him, I denounced him, Jericho denounced him. Everyone seemed to be on the same page, this guy's a clown looking for attention. And then Omega had to certainly, in his way, point people to you again. And I think, you know, there's a hypocrisy because.
Starting point is 01:22:07 for the most part, most of the people we hear from, I shouldn't say most, but a lot, because I haven't checked, but we hear from a lot of people, I love AEW and I love Jim Cornett. I like AEW and I like to listen to Jim Cornett. There's an audience that can appreciate both. There's certainly an audience that is, I love Jim Cornet, I don't like AEW, and there's even a small audience that is I am worshipping Jim Cornett. I despise AEW. And it's the same on the other side. Let's be fair. There's even four or five that love AEW and don't like me. And there's the same on the other side. And when Kenny puts out a tweet like that, all he's doing is riling people up.
Starting point is 01:22:50 And when you talk about fans doing crazy things, first of all, you came out and you insulted the fans, I will happily say, because I'm the one who monitored it, that some of you may remember participating in a survey a while back and very happy to announce that the Jim Coronet experience and Jim Coronet's drive-thru actually has. as a very large audience, educated, well educated, high earning. Smart people, Kenny. As smart as AEW's audience, but he decided he was going to attack all of our audience. And I just think it's a disservice.
Starting point is 01:23:20 When we were all doing the kumbaya thing and even people were even tweeting, well, at least they can all come together over saying, fuck this guy, right? And then fucking Harpo's got to stir shit. Well, it's like I tweeted out. You know, look at this clown clutching his pearls. Because that's what it is. It's, he chooses what to be offended at. Matt Hardy chooses what to be offended at.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And it just so happens to coincide with being offended at the one person who criticizes their bad in ring emoting. That's my point. And there's an hypocrisy. And you have a good point there. You know, when the young bucks go out there and lie and say that Jim Cornett in his mid-50s wanted to go out on the road and work a program with the young bucks, I assume taking bumps. That's a lie. They know it's a lie, but it's part of their narrative.
Starting point is 01:24:11 It's part of their story. Jim's their boogeyman. But when you lie like that, when Kenny goes out there and, again, he chooses who to be offended at, look who he's aligned with, and we'll talk maybe a little more later about people he's been aligned with in the past,
Starting point is 01:24:24 where he chose to look the other way. There's a hypocrisy there. And both audiences have crazy fans, and I would argue that AEW has more crazy fans than we do. Listen to how many people have been harassed by crazy AEW fans. Jim Ross! They were wishing Jim Ross would die! Yes, because he said WWEatomite. Oh, God, kill him, kill him! Kill him, you horrible person. Oh! So give me a break. Like I said in the tweet, quit clutching your pearls, Kenny.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Yeah, well, he's used to clutching round things, whether it be pearls or grapes or whatever. I will say, as we are recording a day earlier than usual, I woke. I woke up this morning a little later than usual. I've used usual twice now. That's unusual. Usually I would sleep. I'd wake up a little earlier, but I slept late and I woke up to see you were trending once again on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:25:19 I blame myself. You know, I asked you before we went on the program. Should we even refer to this? But since I'm trending on Twitter on Super Bowl Sunday, like people ain't got anything else to do. but in this case it was kind of at a baby face way thank everyone for their support and their kind words on the emulation that I had to perform on Twitter this morning
Starting point is 01:25:44 but I don't even know how this happened because I get up this morning to make sure that the store at Jimcornaud.com is running like a well-oiled feather bottom watch and then I turn on the Twitter machine and again, again, again, poor Uncle Dave has somehow, overnight, I guess, it was, I don't, I know there's a time difference here in California, but it was late at night, it had to be, because it was about eight hours previous this, and this was eight, eight, eight,
Starting point is 01:26:21 30 in the morning, so he's up at midnight. And he's retweeted a tweet that I tweeted, a tweet that I tweeted. God, this sounds so ridiculous, grown men, but you just using those words. He retweeted a tweet that I tweeted a year and a half, almost two years ago.
Starting point is 01:26:44 I have about here, June 7th, 2020. Okay. And it was to him because as I recall, this was one of the tweets that either escalated or pretty much finished off the hostilities. and the relationship between me and Uncle Dave.
Starting point is 01:27:04 I remember what this was. I don't know. Okay, then what was the context? He was in some way on Twitter again, verbally philating twinkle toes, and it just caught me wrong, but I think it was directed at me, was it not? It was because we had a question on a drive-thru. Again, it's a long time ago, but I remember this about Harley Race's opinion of Kenny Omega from some training seminar there was years ago. And we talked about it. We read the letter from someone who was there.
Starting point is 01:27:36 And Dave randomly, out of nowhere, I mean, this seems to happen a lot. I don't know where Dave's added on Twitter said, here's the tweet. Somebody sent me a clip of Cornett saying why Harley Race didn't like Kenny Omega. Hope Cornett mentioned how much Thess, Goch, and the other purists from the prior generation hated Harley Race. would be even more rich if the subject was stupid moves that aren't real. By the way, just listen to the clip,
Starting point is 01:28:04 you would have heard if that was one of the things, which I don't think it was. No. But that was... It was actually a report from somebody that had been at a camp that Harley had had, that Omega was at,
Starting point is 01:28:16 that didn't have a fond opinion to the guy either and said that he was rude in a twat or whatever. So go ahead. Someone sent him a clip. He didn't watch it. He started jumping to conclude. about what he thought would be there in a way to put you down.
Starting point is 01:28:31 So that's when you replied, why don't you two get a fucking room? Does it really gall you that badly that most people who have an idea what this business is supposed to be can't stand fucking twinkle toes McFingerbang? That was the tweet from June 7th, 2020, that Dave decided to retweet last night, apparently. Okay, but now I got to ask you, sir, could you know more about these things? than I do. But when I scroll down through my Twitter screen, here on my big-ass computer so I can see that little small print, it takes me forever just to get to yesterday. How did he find a single tweet from a year and a half ago? I don't know what caused this to be on his radar. How can you just go back and get that to begin with, even if he wanted to, how has he kept track of where that
Starting point is 01:29:26 could be located, or how it could be located. Is there a way to do that? It's like his office. It may be a mess, but he knows where everything is. Oh, God. All right. So anyway, so he retweets that with the boy this aged, well, well, if you've got that shit and read his, boy, this aged well.
Starting point is 01:29:46 So 13 hours ago as we are recording, Dave retweeted your tweet from June of 2020, tweets that age badly for $100. $18 months later, he wins almost every wrestler of the year award and is the first guy to hold three major world titles at the same time in decades. He's in the past year and a half, he's won almost every major award I've given him.
Starting point is 01:30:16 And he, what are the major titles? A, EW, a title that didn't exist two years ago was an impact, right? Seriously? And AAA. And AAA. We've seen the Mexicans will use almost anybody down there.
Starting point is 01:30:36 But nevertheless, this is comparable to when Vader actually had major world championships across multiple continents and fucking deserve them. I don't know. But what he's saying basically, well, he won my award and he won
Starting point is 01:30:53 the award of the magazine that wants to sell magazines because he's on the cover. What the... Again, I don't tweet Dave anymore to go along with not emailing him anymore and not speaking to him on the phone anymore. And if I ever went anywhere in person, it would go along with not speaking to him in person anymore. Because he's a goddamn lunatic and he lost his mind. and if it was so important to him, as I've mentioned,
Starting point is 01:31:29 if it was so important to him that I not take the piss out of his favorite little play wrestlers, that he's willing to knock me after 35 years of friendship, blah, blah, blah, then fine, I told him he can piss the fuck off. And I don't recall Brian, except when we give him credit, for a news item that we might pick up out of his publication. We say, oh, this is straight from Uncle Dave. I don't recall going on a campaign to systematically, every time somebody sneezes,
Starting point is 01:32:08 remind them that Dave Meltzer has lost his fucking mind and is a backstabbing piece of shit that turned on every friend he had for 30 years because they didn't like trampoline play wrestlers. We don't do that as a matter of course, but he sits there and waits for an opportunity that since something crosses his mind and throws his panties in a bunch, and his left testicle is lopped over his right testicle, and he's uncomfortable, and so he tweets, my tweets to him from a year and a half ago,
Starting point is 01:32:45 like a possessed, stalking, jilted ex-lover, and I gotta be honest we, Dave was never that good. And and he's got to goddamn just continue this all over fucking twinkletoe. It's not any other opinion
Starting point is 01:33:05 that I have anything else that I've expressed about wrestling or life in general. It doesn't matter. But if I fart in the general direction of that ballet dancing, prissy prancing,
Starting point is 01:33:21 finger-pointing, gesticulating, masturbating, piece of shit and his two fucking brotherly, hardly friends, then Uncle Dave, like a white night in shining tinfoil comes to the fucking rescue.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Over and over and over again, and a year and a half later, he's still mad about the same insults. So that is why that I responded to him because it struck me wrong first thing in the morning to see this fucking lunatic stalker that I have continuing to slander me for having what is becoming
Starting point is 01:34:04 a more and more popular opinion that Kenny Olivier can go piss off he's the shits especially when even people had formerly appreciated in some fashion what he was doing are now realizing, well, no, now he's in the same company with, I don't know, Brian Danielson and et cetera, and, you know, come on.
Starting point is 01:34:30 But that's when I had to, unfortunately, tell Dave again that I'm more than willing to ignore him if he ignores me, but I am not going to goddamn wake up first thing in a morning and see this shit when it's already cold outside. You can read my tweet back to him. if you'd like. I will, but I also do want to say this is part of the story
Starting point is 01:34:58 that I think a lot of people miss from way back when the relationship first went sour. Dave was still calling you and still emailing you while on his board and on Twitter, at times for no reason whatsoever just attacking you. Just apropos of nothing. Just apropos.
Starting point is 01:35:13 And by the way, Cornette's wrong about twinkle toes. And like you said, it's all about Omega and the box. And I had to fucking forcefully on a couple of different occasions, inform him to stop fucking emailing me like there's nothing wrong after he stabbed me in the back and walked around with the fucking knife. So you responded to his retweet and comment with, uh, Dave, you do remember those awards are all works and you give him half of them yourself, right?
Starting point is 01:35:42 After almost two years, still with this? If you loved your wife as much as Harpo here, you'd still have one. quit embarrassing yourself or I'll start doing it for you. And unfortunately for Uncle Dave, a lot of people seem to wait and hide and watch for somebody to just piss in his fucking mouth because I got a bunch of who raise and who raise and hurrahs over that because he's become insufferable with his fucking cheerleading. and it's it's gone past somebody being a paid PR person, somebody having a legitimate fixation. I even criticize MJF and CM Punk every once in a while. But my God.
Starting point is 01:36:31 So Dave, you want to keep fucking finding my tweets and rehash and old shit. I'll be more than happy to blister the fuck out of you in a public forum anytime, any place. I will fucking make you goddamn wish you had never been born, and I will make you curse your mother for the day she gave birth to you. I will belittle you, trash you, revile you, verbally eviscerate you, and otherwise, break my foot off in your ass.
Starting point is 01:37:01 If you don't just leave me the fuck alone, you fucking fanatical freak. I don't know which is worse. The positive fixations you have are the negative ones. You won't leave me alone because I'm. I don't like your little fucking buddies. I can only imagine how they feel when you're goddamn slobbering all over there fucking jocks all goddamn time.
Starting point is 01:37:26 I think it would be worse if he was still liked me. He would be fixated on me more than he'd be fixated against me and I'd have to get a tire iron to pry him off. It's like a dog that won't quit humping a leg. Anyway, this is your show. Dave has responded. Oh, Jesus. Christ. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:51 You, who know better and know they are voted on, and multiple publications and sites do them independent of each other, are going to lie to your fan base to this degree? Dude, you've literally... Dude! I'm dude now! Oh, he's gone too far! Dude, you've literally become Trump. Oh, oh, see now, see now. You struck a nerve. You struck a nerve.
Starting point is 01:38:22 You got to fucking go there. You've got to call. There's no reason to call any human being a fucking Trump. Besides the fact, Uncle Dave Dip shit, I can't tweet now because we're actually recording. But they're all voted on. Yes, by all the readers of your publication. Brian, let's take a poll right now. Every listener of my podcast, every member of the,
Starting point is 01:38:51 the cult of cornet. Who's more popular? Me or Vince Rousseau? I think we know what the results will be, clearly. There you go. He's been, as I've mentioned, verbally philating these fucking guys
Starting point is 01:39:05 and telling his listeners and his readers how great they are, and he is fucking because of his, not only his tenure around wrestling, Dave's, his experience around wrestling, all these many years, they think he knows
Starting point is 01:39:23 what he's talking about. They don't realize he had a nervous breakdown, and it lost the plot, and all of his long-time friends have remarked on this, but they don't know that, because they don't know him personally, and they don't fucking know the trials and travails that has apparently allowed him to lose his
Starting point is 01:39:43 fucking mind over the last 10 years or so, and they think he knows what he's talking about. So when he tells him that the Hardley Boys are a great tag team. The readers of his publication, which also happened to mirror the fucking... It's the equivalent of the Bobby Soxers
Starting point is 01:40:01 after Bobby Sherman in the 60s. The people who buy magazines and read the newsletters love the Hardley Boys and Twinkle Toes. The people that don't watch wrestling anymore because they're offended by those people that make up a much larger segment of society,
Starting point is 01:40:18 including much of my audience, has a different viewpoint. That's why we don't watch wrestling anymore. So if you want to sell a newsletter or a magazine, put the dip shit on the cover that these goddamn teeny boppers are still going gaga over, except now the teeny boppers are not
Starting point is 01:40:37 16-year-old cheerleaders with nice legs and training bras. They're 35-year-old fat guys with fucking beards and pizza stains on their t-shirts. Teeny boppers have changed too. If you want to call out Jim and say that he's Trump, call out wrestlers who actually gave money to Trump, like your buddy Jericho, who never gets bad coverage in the Observer, ever.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Or members of their family that participated in the insurrection to overthrow the government. But that, no, but, but, but me over here that has done everything short of fucking taking Harley Quinn to Washington to bite him in the ass to get him out of office, uh, I'm, I'm Trump.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Here, the problem with Dave is, Dave, he tries to verbally joust with people and or make a witty comment. And he knows, oh, well, being compared to Trump, I could call him a piece of shit. He wouldn't mind that, but being compared to Trump, he's trying to get a oomph out of me so that I'll continue to band through this around
Starting point is 01:41:44 so that maybe he'll feel important. But the point is, I trended on Twitter again, Thank you, Dave. Every time you do this, I've just opened the store at Jimcornett.com. So I appreciate the payoff. But can you leave me the fuck alone so I don't come home and find Harley Quinn boiling in a pot of water on a stove? You fucking freak.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Jim, I want to ask you some questions and I demand answers. I want to ask you some questions about a few things happening in wrestling surrounding you. Okay. I apologize if any of these are sensitive. Who's surrounding me? I don't see a soul. Well, that neighbor with the driveway. I think he's trying to surround you. Well, he is building it close to my property line. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Jim, if you remember, as we were closing up the experience this week, we got some breaking news that many people were sending us on Twitter and via email as the show is transpiring that Dave Meltzer had been tweeting about you and we discussed that on the show. Oh, and this also apparently is why I trended again. against my knowledge or without my consent. Yeah, as we said before, there appears to be some hitch where if anyone says anything positive about you, it becomes something where he has to not just disagree, but completely shut it down. And the one that- Which then his procedure to shut it down then creates more debate and talk and back and forth. And that's how I trend when I'm minding my own business.
Starting point is 01:43:18 you were outside playing in the dirt and all this was happening in the dirt I wasn't playing in the dirt I was playing in the trees Well you were playing in the trees This is the one that several people Have been sending to us over the last couple of days I mean they're still sending it to us as of today
Starting point is 01:43:34 Someone tweeted in response to Dave I don't have the initial tweet that triggered it Someone named Victor Todorov You would almost think that had to be a Russian bot But I was about to say wait a minute minute. I've heard of these Russian bots, but I didn't know they gave them names. Well, here was... I thought he was... Is he the tag team partner of Vladimir Gautja Roxoff?
Starting point is 01:43:58 Well, here's, uh, here's the tweet. Jim is wrong about some aspects of today's wrestling, but he's right about a lot of other things, in my opinion. If he, and for example, Tony Kahn could combine their best thoughts, AEW would benefit greatly. I think that's kind of a fair assessment there. Nothing over the top. The only questionable aspect would be whether or not that I would have a nervous breakdown being in the room with Tony Kahn, but that's as a statement, not inflammatory and fairly reasonable and well thought out. Right. I think even your detractors would say if you could just take the very best of Jim Kornet, those great creative ideas and combine them with the very
Starting point is 01:44:44 best of Tony Kahn, whatever you want to say negative about them. Yeah. And if you could find Tony's very best and combine those, it would be great. Well, Dave responded to that tweet. Again, suggesting that maybe you and Tony Khan, if you sat together, good ideas may come out of it. Actually, he's the single last person to listen to. He doesn't know the audience, nor the modern product. Maybe you could say that about John Mews, but Cornett is the last guy who could help Tony.
Starting point is 01:45:15 with John Mews is a longtime wrestling fan from Michigan and as I recall John was a major tape collector was he not I believe so back in the days when we had to watch our wrestling on videotape I'm not aware that John has ever worked in the wrestling industry professionally behind the camera or on camera or any of that nature and is John still alive? I haven't heard his name in 20 years. How did John Mews come up out of nowhere? Well, I believe they came up out of nowhere because Mike Teney probably bowed out of the offering of who should be the consultant that I recommended instead of Cornette this week.
Starting point is 01:46:00 No, I think didn't John Mews actually consult with Bischoff when Bischoff was going to buy and relaunch WCW? John Mews was going to, am I thinking of the right guy? I think it was John Mews. He was going to come in there and help run the cruiser weights and everything else. Oh, you help run the cruiserweight. Okay, I'm not knocking John. I haven't seen John or talk to John in 20 years, as I said, but I don't know where this came from. But the idea he was, but that didn't happen, did it?
Starting point is 01:46:25 But you're the single last guy, the single last guy that Tony Conchard should listen to. Nobody worth nobody. Nobody has any stupider out is. Again, I don't know what to say to Uncle Dave because at this point, it's, I'm speechless. For once, somebody has rendered me speechless. Does he wake up in the middle of the night screaming?
Starting point is 01:46:54 Don't listen to him! He is, what do the kids say, triggered? Every time somebody, you know, if, yeah, if Cornyn and so-and-so could get along, no, no, no, it'd be horrible. Well, you know, if Cornette could, no, no, that would be terrible. And do you... It's so over the top when you really think about it. It's every time.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I have seen people fucking, you know, ran down a member of somebody's family in the street with a car and they apologized and got, you know, back together. I don't know what his fucking deal is. Just because again, have we ever, have we ever said anything bad about Dave as a person until he started all this? We defended him. Have we ever maligned him or slandered him? Or do we even come up just at random and say, you know that Dave Meltzer, we haven't heard from him in a while, but boy, he's still a prick.
Starting point is 01:47:58 No, but it's incessant just because I don't like twinkle toes and the fucking Hardley boys. That's the only disagreement. Bone of contention. breaking point that we have ever had with old uncle Dave is that you may we don't fucking like the silly play rasslers and now it is made him go out of his mind and again I've seen people
Starting point is 01:48:35 not care that much about family members beloved pets cherished personal possessions what the fuck has a Olivier and those two little smarmy pricks from Coquamonga done two or four Dave Meltzer to engender this kind of
Starting point is 01:48:53 loyalty and dying on that hill every single time whether it's me or anybody else on Twitter that just says you know what we don't like these fucking guys because they act like goofs fuck oh my God
Starting point is 01:49:08 you can't say that how can you say that they sold out Yokohama or whatever. What do you think, Brian? You think if someone said like, hey, AEW should hire Vince Rousseau, be like, no, that's not the person. He's the second, the worst person. Cornett's the worst.
Starting point is 01:49:25 That's what it would be. Because I'm the worst. So he can't be the worst because I'm the worst. So yes, Uncle Dave thinks it would be better to hire Dave Melt, or to hire Vince Rousseau for AEW instead of me. Well, here's the other thing. If you were so out of touch with the modern product, how come the things that you critique the least, the things that you enjoy the most, the things that you champion
Starting point is 01:49:48 the most, the punk segments, the MJF segments, those are the highest rated segments they have. Those are the feuds and guys who have drawn the pay-per-view. It's a complete accident, complete coincidence, Brian. Nothing more than that. And what, I mean, it's just a complete coincidence that all these things I say show up on their television program, either something that the talent utters or some sign that the fans bring or some change that is made in the program. It's just all coincidence.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Do you think, I want to carefully craft this sentence, this question, I should say. Do you think Dave knows how much stuff is being influenced by you and he's lashing out about that? Or do you think he's oblivious to what's really happening? And again, I'm not going to say too much. That's a good question. because you can't really tell because he speaks like a person
Starting point is 01:50:47 that's oblivious to things most of the time. But I think it actually at this point it's bothering him that three years ago I was one of the only people saying these things now three years later
Starting point is 01:51:03 there's a lot of people saying these things because it took them a while longer to notice but that's a that may be what it is Maybe that's what it is. He was so sure that, oh, my God, this is going to revolutionize everything. And for the kind of people who like that kind of thing, that's the kind of thing those people like. They have done tremendous business with the same fans they had three years ago.
Starting point is 01:51:33 The same numbers on television, the same numbers in the building, they're very good. But it's the same people because it's the same people. because that's the amount of people in this country that we're going to like modern wrestling and you get occasionally you get some peaks from real stars
Starting point is 01:51:55 and main event angles that click like an MJF and a punk or whatever the fuck but more people have noticed well you know yeah the the fucking guy with his hands in his pockets was a one note joke that never went anywhere and now he went somewhere because they couldn't fucking keep doing that forever. Now they got a guy that puts curses on people.
Starting point is 01:52:18 And they won't flesh that out and that won't be funny in a year and a half. Or the fucking little dwarf that was with, you know, his tag team champions until he figured out, well, I'm sure they probably got a bunch of complaints from people who had to work with the dwarf. it wasn't like people weren't going to figure this out. They started out with indie rific guys that had never done this, had no experience, and couldn't do it. But they started picking up talent, and they got some momentum off those people
Starting point is 01:52:56 to at least where now, usually on what, on average, half the television program is great. And in the other half falls in a fucking hole. But that's better than where they started, where there was no part of the show that was great. But back to Dave, that's the problem is he can't accept that everybody
Starting point is 01:53:17 didn't suddenly see all this greatness that he saw somewhere in these seven-star matches with his fucking idiot harpo and the rest of his masturbatory uh... theater minion crew.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Masturbatory theater. Masturbatory theater. Yeah, the cutlets and the knock-it-offs and all of the fucking an idiot's they've serrated. Dave now is, I guess he's pissed. No. No, you can't see the same things he saw because he was wrong. Let me ask you this. If John Muse decides that he's busy, they previously recommended Mike Teney, now it's John Mews. Who do you think is next? Do you think it'll be Klon or zombie Harry White? Oh, that's interesting. Well, Mike Tene actually would have been a large improvement, but he wants to fucking be involved with the wrestling
Starting point is 01:54:09 business about like I want to go up on the next space shuttle. I think Dave needs to keep his suggestions on booking to himself because I don't think that's his strong point, either booking or suggesting other people to book. And how old would John Mews be these days? I don't know. He'd have to be as old as me. In that range, I would think, of course. So you think some 60-year-old guy from Michigan
Starting point is 01:54:41 was to come down and fuck around with these dipshits? I bet John Mews won't speak to Dave Meltzer anymore for suggesting that. Okay, let's start the show off with how the... You're going to explain something to me today here on a program in front of all the people, the cult of Cornette, because you started to the other day on the phone, and I said, wait a minute, save this for the show because I already, I'm getting lost.
Starting point is 01:55:09 But somehow, and I've narrowed one of them down to a reason not associated with our friend Uncle Dave, but somehow I have trended on Twitter now over the past week either three or four times without ever actually being on Twitter myself. And actually, in most cases, I was out in a yard. A couple times I was signing action figures. and apparently, again, it has amounted to Uncle Dave's irrational fucking meltdown that he continues to have on Twitter trying to discredit my not only apparently valid but now increasingly popular opinions
Starting point is 01:55:56 about some of his favorite wrestlers and he's causing me to trend, even though I'm not seeing them or responding to them because so many people, you're going to give the details on this, but so many people were responding to him, asking him what his goddamn rabid-ass issue was with me and what the fucks matter with you, Dave, that I trended without knowing it.
Starting point is 01:56:23 And now it's to the point where he is somehow managed to fix it up to where people can't reply to him because so many people were taking a piss out of him and asking him why he is. and go to a movie or sit down and pet his dog. How has he done all of this? Have I hired him to be my PR agent? Well, let me just say, I don't know how many times you have trended exactly,
Starting point is 01:56:46 because sometimes things happen at different hours and you're not watching, and I don't know how they're trending things work, but it keeps popping up on my computer that you're trending at various points, and it all comes back to Dave's tweets. I do want to say, maybe I'm wrong, but it appears Dave may be going through something. So I feel bad in a sense Maybe beating up on a... Why does he have drag me down?
Starting point is 01:57:08 I don't know. I don't know. But he's tweeting like a West Coast Bix. He flooded my fucking timeline the other day. Which is nonsense after a while. So I don't know. I really don't know. See, I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:57:21 I don't remember whether I blocked him or just don't follow him. And he doesn't actually put my gimmick in there. He just mentions my name. Anyone who mentions you to him causes him to make sure to let everyone know that you are completely discredited, that there's nothing that you say that has any validity, no one should listen to you, you're the very last person, anyone in AEW that TOT CONCH should listen to, the very last person, which makes me feel good because I have a shot now. If you're the very last...
Starting point is 01:57:51 It still could be worse for you, Brian. Yeah. But the other thing of note, and again, this is a topic of the... the listeners, unfortunately, have really taken to, because they keep sending me all these emails about it. Dave is now, apparently he tweets out stuff and he's turned off the ability for anyone to reply. I believe unless he follows them. But how, I didn't even know you could do that. How did, but how is, he's a grown man with a business to run. How does he have this much time on his hands to do all of this internet witchery with the Twitter machine. I guess we should explain for some of the newer listeners, because I still have sometimes
Starting point is 01:58:43 if I will tweet something, and I've been signing figures so fucking much the last several weeks. I retweet shit a couple times a day, and that's mostly what I've gotten into. But people still say when I tweet something, they'll say, put your phone down. like they don't know. So I will just bring everybody up speed again for all the longtime listeners. You're well aware of this. Don't have a smartphone, never going to have a smartphone, refuse to.
Starting point is 01:59:13 I tweet on my computer where it's got a nice big screen and I got a keyboard in front of me so I don't type like a savage with my thumbs and I can check my spelling. And I do that first thing in the morning when I get up and I retweet our announcements of our shows. our clips and our various things. And then probably later on in the afternoon, I'll stop by again. But otherwise, I am not on the internet unless I'm talking to you and we're recording
Starting point is 01:59:41 this show. So these things happen behind my back. But so I'm not really up to date and a real, like, how many of these people sit there in their daily life and look at Twitter constantly? and are keeping an eye on it all day while they're awake. I don't understand because they answer instantly to anything at any time. There are people specifically in and around wrestling who live on Twitter. Live on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Go look at the amount of tweets. It'll blow your mind. So Dave has figured out a way that you can't respond to him unless you follow him or he follows you or how did that work? Hold on. I'll actually... I believe it was that he had to follow you or mention you in order for you to be able to respond,
Starting point is 02:00:37 which I'm thinking maybe a way someone said, hey, you got to stop fighting with everyone. And maybe the easiest solution was, okay, I won't let them reply, so I won't see it, but then he's still finding things to fight with. But then people are, they're causing, because then they're screenshoting it and fucking sending out,
Starting point is 02:00:55 what's the matter with you, pal and it's causing me to trend and oh here's what i was going to say apparently it's flummoxing my twitter machine on my computer because normally when i get up in the morning as i mentioned i'll turn it on and i'll go down to where i last left off the previous day fairly quickly scrolling down see everything catches my eye but when it when this happens it goes the notifications go from like four hours ago to 17 hours ago instantly. I'm missing a big chunk of shit. It's like it's blown my thing up.
Starting point is 02:01:29 It can't handle all the traffic. And so I don't get to see a lot of that of what the fuck went on unless I was to sit there and fucking try to figure out how to find it and I don't have time. So some of this I'm in the dark on, but I appreciate. We should use, you know, we should use it as a tagline. It's actually pretty good. Jim Cornett, the very last person you should listen to. Yes. That'll send our ratings through the roof. Everybody wants to taste forbidden fruit.
Starting point is 02:02:01 They want to do the verboten. They want to take a walk on the wild side with Corny. You know, I appreciate him being my PR agent, but I'm doing okay on my own because one of the ones, the times that I trended, Brian, I found out what that was for. It didn't have anything to do with Uncle Dave. I trended on Twitter, ladies and gentlemen, because on, I think it was your show on one of the drive, on one of the recent podcasts over the last week or nine days, I said one of the, I said, I really, I'm not a fan of Liv Morgan. She's not in the top echelon of the girls in my opinion, the Rias and the Charlottes of the world. She's too girly, you're a little small and girly. I trended on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:02:52 People specifically pointed this to me because I upset all of the what are the mouth breathers that follow the girls way too closely and so therefore I am so irrelevant that if I say Liv Morgan's too girly for me that trends on Twitter
Starting point is 02:03:14 what else should I should I trend? pistachio ice cream. I'm for it. Oh shit. I'm blowing up the internet now, Brian. Are you really for it? No. I just want to be controversial.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Anyway, speaking of controversial, we have passed that magic milestone over 300,000 subscribers on the official Jim Cornett YouTube channel. Just want to thank everybody for their support. we finally, I still didn't get a cake from you again, Brian. I thought we established that the cake is not supposed to come from me. It's supposed to come from people who are celebrating with you or YouTube. Well, they didn't send me one either. The only one I can count on is Joni out there in Washington.
Starting point is 02:04:03 She's a cake kind of girl. All right, let's go back to Trendin on Twitter, because we got started on Ranger Ross, the motorcycle bandit, after Butterface, and I forgot where we were going, but I trended on Twitter again this week, as I mentioned earlier in the program, while I was unsuspecting and unawares dealing with my contractors, you informed me of this. And I said, well, what did Uncle Dave say now? And it wasn't Uncle Dave. It was Twinkle Toes.
Starting point is 02:04:32 Apparently now I trended a number of times this week on Twitter because Twinkle Toes decided to play video games again, I guess, with random people and be recorded doing it. And, or is it, was this an actual interview or was this just him sitting alone at home with his joystick and his hand playing video games with people on the internet? I believe from what I saw this was on Twitch once again with. Oh, on Twitch. On Twitch. Okay. On Twitch. Which would it be yes.
Starting point is 02:05:02 It involves video games. We've got the Wall Street Journal. We got the New York Times. We've got NBC News. We got Twitch. Twitch. Twitch. What was he twitching about?
Starting point is 02:05:13 Apparently he was twitching out about you. once again. Now, we had played audio from a previous stream where he talked about his many injuries and how people attack him all the time. Yeah, can you just read this one because between him trying to speak English and play a video game at the same time, and he might have been trying to chew some gum, too. We're not sure. It took forever. Can you just succinctly, briefly encapsulate whatever the drivel was that he had to talk about so that we can tell Harpo what we think of him? Yeah, let me read this, and we'll break it down because it is quite amazing in its disingenuousness, but let me go to it.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Stunning and baffling in its bullshit. It's amazing when someone's a bigger worker out of the ring than they are in the ring, but let me go to this comment here. Not with this guy. I would say he could do anything, work anything outside the ring better than in the ring, but go ahead. I think Jim Cornett has backed himself up into a corner where, now, he's found this group of extremely pathetic human beings who have no other thing to a aspire to become, or no one to base their life off of, no one to listen to, no one to adhere to
Starting point is 02:06:22 their commands. And so, when it became a character that he could play, as though he was still traveling up and down the strip in the Indies, like back in the old days. Back in the Indies, there weren't any Indies in the old days. We had a thriving business till people like you came along. I never worked the Indies, dip shit. Go ahead. Now he's got this group of people hanging off his every word. And all he has to do is sit and talk on a podcast with some other guy. Hey, other guy? Hey, by the way, I'm not some other guy.
Starting point is 02:06:55 I'm the SOG. So fuck you, Ty. Let me go back to the quote here. When he realized he could make money by delivering hateful speech, he backed himself into a corner. And now, if he want to... He's so stupid. if he wants to make rent
Starting point is 02:07:14 if he wants to buy his fancy McDonald's double cheeseburger meal Hey where's the Wendy's gets no love? But what about Freddie's steak burgers? They just opened one over here not too far away. Why don't they get the love? You know, just take a quick break. I hate cheeseburgers, so I never really listen too much
Starting point is 02:07:31 to your details on what you want like other people do. Do you like McDonald's cheeseburgers or is it always Wendy's? If I'm on the interstate and the only thing available to get to is McDonald's, I will go there. but it's not my first choice. But see, well, because he doesn't know anything else about what he's talking about, so why is he going to get my fast food pick right? He has to talk about the things that are going to get attention.
Starting point is 02:07:53 And a lot of the time that's going to be yours truly. And then I guess talking a little bit further down here, he is asked about whether or not Cornett's comments have any effect on backstage life in AEW. This is the funniest part. That seeps into our locker room, too. Yeah, it does. everyone is so afraid of the fucking cult of Cornett army and people that have like, you know,
Starting point is 02:08:20 anti-AEW sites that they want to be, they want to do whatever the fuck they can to stay safe. Wait a minute. The guys in the locker room want to do whatever they can to stay safe from mean websites and our fans who don't like them. Have we, have we got an army out there that I'm not aware of, Brian? Who appropriated or apportioned the money to equip our field army to go out and, you know,
Starting point is 02:08:55 put the hammer down on the people that we're against, that all these people are huddling up and trying to stay safe? Yeah, he's not saying what it really is, which is a lot of the wrestlers listen to his podcast, and a lot of the wrestlers agree with this podcast, and a lot of the wrestlers talk them and they know what the fuck's going on. Not that. Not me and the bucks are losing some of the influence we have and we're worried. Not that.
Starting point is 02:09:23 But the others. Some of the guys in the locker room are actually starting to listen to common sense instead of us. It's not just the locker room. It goes higher up than that. Well, while this guy's out with multitude of injuries to the point where no one knows if he could ever work a regular schedule as if he's ever worked a regular schedule,
Starting point is 02:09:40 he's playing video games while he's taking years to develop this AEW when did they start developing that video game was it at the beginning of AEW? I don't know, when did they invent video games? It was like the following week they started. And he's only, you know, he's making whatever he's making from Tony Kahn.
Starting point is 02:09:59 Tony's a charitable kind of guy, so yeah, go away and get all fixed up and we'll send you a million or two here and there or whatever. But here's the problem. And first of all, let's address the fact that I don't, at first I thought, you've always thought they're just saying this because the, the Hardley boys and Twinkle Toes, they want to get the narrative out, as the kids say these days, that, that you're the bad guy, Cornett, and that they're the good guys.
Starting point is 02:10:31 And that's why they always say all this bullshit. Yeah. And let me stop right there. Because they've done that. When they made up the whole story about Jim Cornett coming up to them, at the Jeff Jarrett show about wanting to work a program with them across the Indies.
Starting point is 02:10:45 That it's all just some big work. That's when the narrative started changing. And then all of a sudden, them, Dave Meltzer, various people started rewriting everything before it going back to Ring of Honor. Now you were supposed to know in like 2009, 2010,
Starting point is 02:11:00 the young bucks were the future just turn over Ring of Honor to them. It's a completely fucked narrative. And with Omega, Omega has an engagement. incredibly dedicated fan base who like his style of wrestling. We ought to be watching out for those weirdos. But let's just address.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Talk about our pathetic fans. We ought to be watching out for those weirdos. Because if you've got something in your fucking brain that likes to see some guy get out there looking like Harpo Marx, skipping around the ring doing video game moves, you might be dangerous. Maybe we need to do a mental evaluation, throw some red flag warning, on his fans. They seem to be the ones that are slightly disturbed,
Starting point is 02:11:44 but nevertheless, that's why I said, you've always thought that. I have always said, no, I don't think they're doing that. I think these insufferable douchebags are so in love with the smell of their own farts, so heads so far up their own asses, that they genuinely believe
Starting point is 02:12:04 that they're big stars in some capacity, and that if anybody talks about them, they do it because those people that are talking about them want their attention or want attention. I got news for you. First of all, as far as the pathetic people, twinkle toes, here's the facts. Sit down, Mr. Peabody, and let me give you the deal here. I'm not alone, in my opinion of you. I will explain in minute, granular detail momentarily, why that I dislike almost everything about you,
Starting point is 02:12:41 and the only things that I don't dislike are the things I haven't discovered yet. But to think that I'm alone in thinking that you are a joke jackoff is ridiculous. Because if anybody can bother to do mathematics, wrestling has lost approximately 75% to 80% of its fan base in the last 25 years. And the modern fans may go for the V-trigger and the one-winged fairy and the Canterbury step off the fuck, whatever the fuck. But all those people that have gone away, they're the ones, Twinkle Toes, that are repulsed by you and your ilk,
Starting point is 02:13:28 the rest of the members of the Lollipop Guild. They're the ones that blame you and people like you, the phony, cosplaying, video game wannabe trampoline cowboys that do a goddamn floor exercise
Starting point is 02:13:47 every time they get in the ring when they're not bashing each other with inanimate objects or setting each other on fire, you ruined a pastime, a hobby, an interest and entertainment that a lot of us had, and some of us professionally,
Starting point is 02:14:03 for years and years and decades, and decades, because it's just so silly and phony and stupid and illogical, and you've made wrestling something to be laughed at. And you admit that. It should be fun. We should all laugh and have fun at the silliness. Well, guess who's laughing now, Twinkle Toes? Because I've got the 75 to 80% of the wrestling fans that loved wrestling and don't watch
Starting point is 02:14:35 it anymore because people like you on my side and you've got the remaining people that will eat that Elmer's glue and thank you for the ice cream for the kind of people who like that kind of thing that's kind of thing those people like so I think the roles are reversed here because when you talk about me I trend you don't trend what would your brother's groucho and chico think Harpo I mean, I know you were always the third place Mark's brother. There was always Zepo, but he had the good sense to get out. Well, there was also Gummo.
Starting point is 02:15:14 He was the brother who wasn't in the films. Yes, but Gummo was the business mind behind the whole thing. That's right. And we see how fucking Harpo's doing with the business of the video game. So the point is, he thinks, he genuinely thinks that he's such a fucking artiste that everybody talks about him to get noticed. you are talking to some guy that you're playing a video game with on Twitch, and I'm speaking on the highest rated, do we have ratings?
Starting point is 02:15:45 You know what I'm saying, the most listened to podcast hosted by a professional wrestling personality in the history of history. Well, it's any wrestling podcast altogether, not just hosted by a professional wrestling personality to clarify. Well, I thought that would kind of be the same thing. thing when I said it, but thank you for clarifying my clarification. But nevertheless, so I'm sorry that
Starting point is 02:16:13 the star, actually he wasn't even the star, I'm sorry that one of the bit players in the incomparable independent film's Sissy Boy Slap Fight, look it up on YouTube, I'm sorry that he thinks he's such a major superstar that I need to fucking talk about him to stay as the kids say relevant. But since I trend on Twitter weekly, I speak to, what did we do on YouTube week before
Starting point is 02:16:43 last over the weekend? We did about two million downloads, but that was three days. Well, not downloads. Downloads, uploads, views, whatever they call them. Yes. You know what? See, I'm a big enough star that I do all this shit and I don't even know how it works. That's the truth.
Starting point is 02:17:01 And that's the, you know what? I always thought that was the sign of success. When people have a hard time getting a hold of you, you've become successful. And almost nobody gets a hold of me. Brian, last, you're a very successful motherfucker yourself so you can't. But anyway, Harpo, old twinkle toes, Mr. Olivier, world's greatest wrestling artist,
Starting point is 02:17:24 our listeners aren't pathetic just because they think you're a shitty wrestler. And I'm not latching on to you for relevant. because let me know the next time you do the 10 million fucking tubes on YouTube that we do every, well, more than that a month. But here's the problem. The problem is that me and old Kenny were completely different people.
Starting point is 02:17:54 And it's not like now that I've heard him talk and kind of got an idea of his personality from all these various interviews he's done etc. It's not just wrestling. I don't know why anybody would have think I would ever like this fucking guy. The first time I saw him in Ring of Honor in what 2007, he's just, they booked him for a one shot.
Starting point is 02:18:19 And somebody said to me, hey, watch this guy, Kenny Omega, he's pretty good. And I see a guy that comes out, he's got a good physique, and he's making the blowfish puffer face like fucking Ultimate Warrior. And he was still wearing tassels back then and he's running the ropes like the ultimate walking the ropes like the ultimate warrior and his work was the shits because he looked self-trained. I later
Starting point is 02:18:41 found out that was kind of the case. And I said he's got a good physique. He'd need to go to a quality training facility for a couple years and Jesus Christ can somebody tell him quit shaking to fucking ropes. And then I never saw him again until I believe they tried
Starting point is 02:18:59 to book him the once more. I was Adam Pierce tried to book him and he ducked out of that take a booking in Japan and sent the... I've told his story, sent the weird picture of a disfigured foot with gangrene and said, I hurt my ankle. And Pierce sends it to me, he said, look at this shit. That can't be his leg.
Starting point is 02:19:17 I don't know what the... No loss, because we didn't need him anyway. And then I see the videos of him wrestling, the six-year-old children, girls, not even boys. and the sex doll. Brian, let me, I've asked this before, but apparently either Harpo was busy flying back and forth to Japan or he didn't, he couldn't pay his battery bill for his Racon wireless earbuds,
Starting point is 02:19:48 so he couldn't hear me, so I'll say it again. Why would I like anybody that wrestled a small child or a blow-up doll in competitive matches in front of people and on video? Why? Why would anybody think that I would want anything to do with a motherfucker that would do that? Anybody that's ever known me in my life? Well, I think the people that don't know you think that, okay, you don't like it. Just move on.
Starting point is 02:20:16 No, fuck you. Here's the thing. From the time, when I was a fan in the 70s, I didn't, if a person wrote a nasty article knocking a wrestling business in the paper, I didn't like that motherfucker. If somebody knocked wrestling on the street, I didn't like that motherfucker. When I got in the business, I was taught to protect it because I was allowed into something that people had spent a long time building and I should take care of it or get to fuck out. And when Eddie Mansfield exposed the business on network television,
Starting point is 02:20:51 I thought somebody needs to fucking find him and put him in a goddamn landfill somewhere. And I have that feeling yet today, that piece of shit. for his own self-serving interest, expose the business, trying to get on TV and trying to make a point, trying to get even with people who wouldn't push him because he just wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 02:21:09 So I hate Eddie Mansfield to this day for that, but you know what Eddie Mansfield didn't do? He didn't make wrestling look like a fucking silly, stupid, nonsensical joke. Just a fucking chaotic show of shit where nothing makes any sense and everything's phony and everybody's winking at the audience with a smile on their face
Starting point is 02:21:30 because they think they're fucking characters in a goddamn movie or major motion picture. Eddie Mansfield never did any of that. So what he did was bad enough, but that's even worse. And why would I have anything to do? I'll guarantee you this, whether he showed up or not, old twinkletoes would have never been booked on that one date in Ring of Honor that he was booked on that I was involved in,
Starting point is 02:21:55 that he no-showed if I'd have seen the video of him with the children and the fuck doll. I don't like anybody that's what? Go ahead. Did he wrestle the bulb doll? I know Koto Abushi did. I don't remember who did what. Did he actually wrestle a bulb doll too? Yes.
Starting point is 02:22:11 No, they've had multiple matches with children, multiple matches with dolls. That's what they got into the business in comedy wrestling in Japan. That's why that all of the people that Twinkle Toes brings over to AEW. from Japan are not legitimate Japanese talents girls or guys but they're the Michael Nakazawa's and they're the Machi Itos
Starting point is 02:22:37 the outlaw garbage phony wrestlers of Japan and I'm sure he don't like it that I tell people and it's not like I'm telling people's revelations that I'm stunningly seeing something that nobody else
Starting point is 02:22:53 can see. I just make mention of it because I got a platform but it's the same thing if you go to the YouTube section and the comments or if you go to fucking Twitter or if you go to social media on the websites nobody likes his fucking joke fucking Japanese wrestlers anymore than they like his joke American fucking wrestlers
Starting point is 02:23:10 just because he's friends with him or their fetish objects or whatever the fuck they're not properly trained, they're not serious they're nobody in Japan and he expects people to treat him like stars here and if you say don't bring me anymore
Starting point is 02:23:29 of these Japanese outlaw mud show apartment house wrestling girls then you're being sexist and racist no I like Japanese people as a matter of fact they're probably the most respectful people as a culture
Starting point is 02:23:46 on the face of the planet and they're very industrious they're very intelligent and once upon a time like here in America they had great wrestling not anymore just like here in America but it's only racist if you dislike Japanese people or dislike all Japanese wrestlers
Starting point is 02:24:01 not if you just dislike the shitty ones just like it's not sexist if you don't dislike all female Japanese wrestlers just the shitty ones and that's what you get when you deal with twinkletoes because he's got a mind in the mud show and it's going to stay there
Starting point is 02:24:24 he's never learned any respect for the business he's never been properly trained he's never been at a position where he could even share locker rooms with people who knew what the fuck was going on in the business until he got his little contract from fucking Tony because in New Japan like we've said even if he was on top in New Japan the Japanese wrestling scene has gone to shit just like the American one has and the American talent that they get over there now is what's left over after Tony Con and Vince McMahon finished with what they want.
Starting point is 02:25:04 So as a matter of fact, old twinkletoes when he was in Japan working for New Japan, Brian, what would you say in a comparison of general star power, mainstream celebrity, cultural significance? When we go, Ricky Dozan, Giant Baba, Antonio Onoki, Tatsumi Fujinami, and on through the more modern Japanese superstars, and then there's old Twinkle Toes. Where did Twinkle Toes rate with the real Japanese wrestling stars? Did anybody, could he have got arrested walking down the streets of Tokyo? I don't know if the wrestlers of today have, I mean, I'm not going to say, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:25:54 They don't have the notoriety of the fame that the wrestlers of yesterday you had for a lot of reasons, including no network TV, but he didn't. And I remember talking to a Japanese historian in Japan, who was just puzzled by some of the reactions to Omega and the Bucks here in the States, because the attitude was they're not so special. They're not the special part of the matches. They're not the special part of the card in some cases with the Bucks. So there was a completely different narrative here than what some people in Japan had. but no you can't compare Kenny Omega to any of the big stars but you really can't compare any of it. I don't think you can compare Kenny Omega to Hanson or Brody, the Funks, Hogan, André.
Starting point is 02:26:34 I'm thinking of the biggest like foreign stars in Japanese wrestling. Yeah, well, the point is he walked down the street and nobody looks twice because it's a small niche audience just like we've got here today in this country now. So this fucking guy never been on television. in America of any consequence whatsoever until he gets his billionaire mark to fall for their bullshit and puts him on TV. So, oh, Kenny, you've been on TV in this country for three years. So if we want to compare relevance and star power and mainstream recognition, I've been on TV
Starting point is 02:27:14 in this country most of the time for the past 40 years. You've been on TV in this country for three years. I've spent more time in a fucking wrestling locker room than you've been alive. I think if we actually did the math, we can probably verify that I've been in more locker rooms than at least time that he's spent either awake or asleep. So I hate to break it to you, Harpo, but I ain't trying to be a star off of you. You're trying to do some damage control with me and discredit me because I just have the platform to bring up what everybody can already see about you. You're an insufferable twat, a douchebag, and a shitty wrestler. It's what you are.
Starting point is 02:28:01 So embrace it. Embrace it. And because that's what your friends are too. They should embrace that as well. The problem is they act like insufferable douchebags on television and their heels, but they act like phony insufferable douchebags on TV. If they just act naturally and be the real insufferable douchebags, they might get some fucking heat. See, that's where I talk about the narrative, if I could jump in for a second.
Starting point is 02:28:29 Because what happened is you didn't accept the narrative of Omega being the best wrestler ever, having the greatest match ever and then the greatest series of matches with Okada, and the Young Bucks being the greatest tag team of all time, the greatest tag team currently, the new Midnight Express. You didn't accept all of that. Well, because it's preposterous. A lot of other people didn't either because it's ridiculous to make that statement. It's observably, demonstrably not true.
Starting point is 02:28:54 But because you didn't accept it, it became something where we got to do everything we can to destroy this guy's credibility. We got to do everything we can to get people to not listen to him, not like him, whatever it is. And this is part of that. When he says the locker room is scared, let's be honest. A lot of that locker room has nothing to be afraid of. Just do your best. It's the fucking douchebags like Kenny Omega. And this is where people wonder like, why does Jim Hatham?
Starting point is 02:29:20 Is it just because of the stuff in Japan know? is it because Kenny's gay, no, it's not that. It's because of the person. And also, but I'm getting conflicting reports on that, because I didn't know. I just thought he was just a nerd. But then, no, he's not gay. Well, yes, he is gay. Well, sometimes he's gay.
Starting point is 02:29:36 Well, I don't give a fuck. I don't care if he closed votes. I don't care. That didn't enter into it. He's a shitty wrestler. He made the business look like a joke. He's embarrassed it on numerous occasions. I still don't like his wrestling.
Starting point is 02:29:49 And as I said, the more that I hear him talk, the more I realize that if we locked up in the same room for five minutes together, I would want to gouge his fucking eyeballs out. I think he's an insufferable douchebag. And I don't know what his fucking mental status is. I don't want to push him off a bridge or anything, but goddamn, don't be lying about me just because I tell the truth about you. Go ahead. But that's what I was going to say. Him being a douchebag, the narrative that's out there publicly isn't what people say throughout the wrestling business. Ring of Honor, New Japan, people in AEW currently.
Starting point is 02:30:28 Everybody I've heard just says he's a weirdo. The nicest thing. Nice guy, but weirdo. Two different people, I swear to God, the nicest fucking thing they both said, independent of each other was he's really nice, but he's the weirdest fucking guy I've ever met in my life. And he's the people that like him. He's a weird fucking guy.
Starting point is 02:30:45 And if you don't accept the crap he likes, he attacks you the way him and the bucks accused Jim Cornett of attacking them. If you notice it, that's the hypocrisy of it. We're going to do to you what we accuse you of doing to us, but we're going to be very soft aggressive, not even passive aggressive, soft aggressive about it, and just try to rally people. A lot of that locker room has nothing to be afraid of. You know who has something to be afraid of, that women's division?
Starting point is 02:31:08 You're a fucking bad booker. What the fuck's going on there? There's some talent there. Did the whole division's a mess? That's on you. That's on you, Ty. So really get your shit together. And it's the outside of the ring stuff that I hope we start hearing publicly more what people say, again, Ring of Honor, New Japan, AEW about what these guys are like behind the scenes, how they're fucking phonies behind.
Starting point is 02:31:36 I'm not talking about in the ring. I'm not putting down wrestlers. Behind the scenes as human beings, phonies. And as a lot of wrestlers who like Jim Cornett shows and listen, And there's a lot who don't, who all think that. And you'll hear more about it in the coming years. You guys know I got it all right about Cody. You'll see.
Starting point is 02:31:57 Again, I've heard that he gets very emotional old twinkle-toes and just throws hisy-fits. If, you know, if somebody doesn't see the greatness and whatever the fuck it is he's doing. But again, Pizmo, from me to you, fuck you. I got my brains beat out by fucking Cajuns and goddamn cowboys and everybody in between to try to protect the somewhat credibility of this crazy business. I'll be goddamn fanning some jack off like you, come prancing in like a fucking video game character, and start fucking having matches with blow-up dolls.
Starting point is 02:32:37 I know you probably brought it from home because you couldn't get a date on a tombstone, and most of the time the only sexual partner you have is four fingers on Thumb Street, but still, fuck you. And they keep searching for another reason. It can't be all about wrestling. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 02:32:57 Well, as I said, it's expanded. I think he's a complete twat in every way. But yeah, it is about wrestling. You disrespectful piece of shit. And the idea that people would say that you and that you would try to engender that opinion that you are the greatest wrestler of all time and a business that's held the funks and the steamboats and the flares
Starting point is 02:33:18 and the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Fuck you. And I don't need to do this for money and my rent's taken care of. Now, I do have several contractors that are dependent on me, but I think I'll make that too. Hey, the SOG does also.
Starting point is 02:33:34 The SOG does too over here. Well, yeah, there you go. But we'll make it. But we're going to do this, Kenny. not for money, but for fun. Because anybody that's taken a massive shit and wiped it all over something that somebody cares about, that person needs to be talked about from time to time,
Starting point is 02:33:54 and the general public needs to be reminded what a dip shit they are. And that's a service that we provide free of charge. So there you go. Hey, can I say something to you, though? And I guess now I've blown my opportunity for a personally autographed movie poster of Sissy Boy Slap Fight. Well, you never know.
Starting point is 02:34:13 There's always eBay, but I wanted to say something to you. And please listen to me with, I was going to say open heart. Is that the word? No, just, uh... With open ears! Open ears! You like barbecue. There's a lot of people that love barbecue.
Starting point is 02:34:28 So you're telling me you want me to barbecue Kenny Olivia. That's not what I'm saying. Will you let me finish? Okay, I thought you were leading down that road. Okay, go ahead. But there's so many people throughout the country doing barbecue. Some of them are horrible people. But a lot of people just enjoying their food.
Starting point is 02:34:42 Some people do awful things with their food. But most people don't. Most people are good people. My point is... I've heard that those people are called foodophiliacs. My point is, video games are all right. They're not the problem. Don't blame video games for guys like this.
Starting point is 02:34:59 No, I'm not. I play video games. There are great games. And you can play them and be normal. You don't have to be fucking human gutter balls. Hey, hey, I love... the video games. I loved Pong and what was,
Starting point is 02:35:13 Tetris was a favorite of mine, playing the backseat of the car. I don't want wrestling characters to be video game character. In other words, like I've said before, they made a UFC video game and they made the video game moves
Starting point is 02:35:30 based on the fights. But now in wrestling, the wrestlers are taking moves from video games and making them wrestling moves. it's become video games are more important to the goddamn wrestlers than the profession that they're in. They've mistaken their hobby for their livelihood. And in the process, they've mucked up the whole goddamn thing. Because as I mentioned, nobody sells in a video game unless you press the right button.
Starting point is 02:36:00 But in a fucking real altercation, if somebody hits you hard enough in the face, you're going down and not getting back. up or there's going to be some blood spurting from somewhere. But that doesn't happen in video games unless they hit the right button. So now it doesn't happen in the wrestling matches either. Unless they really can't get back up. And here's Twat Boy over there. Just having had everything from asshole to appetite operated on, surgically fixed. And he thinks he's a great worker.
Starting point is 02:36:35 Fuck, he's not even 40. he may never he can't wrestle at the same level again may never wrestle again hopefully we always keep our fingers crossed and he's torn his fucking body up and this is a great worker fuck
Starting point is 02:36:47 I believe I'll something you said a minute ago Brian so you really believe that old twinkle toes and the young bucks for the past five years or so have been actively trying to discredit me and to keep people from listening to me
Starting point is 02:37:05 and to ruin my reputation That's what you believe? I think it has been a concerted effort on their part to put out false narratives about you and try to do everything they can to stop you and you're growing influence. And again, well, goddamn, if that's the case, I need to send them a check. Because if they've been working that hard for the past five years that everything that we have done has continued to go up and up and up, well, these are the best partners that money could buy. I need to send them a healthy check to keep trying to discredit me because apparently nobody believes anything that they say because they have failed spectacularly.
Starting point is 02:37:46 For the record, that check's going to come out of your share. I just want to make sure I put that out there. All right. Well, I also, I'm going to sign it Peter Rabbit, so it's not going to go too far. Well, listen, we've talked about this for a while. I'm going to save it for the drive-through, but one wrestler, apparently, you never know.
Starting point is 02:38:06 You never know if it's a work or not, but apparently came out and did say some public comments about Kenny Omega, and that's Will Osprey, a guy that a lot of people consider the best wrestler in the world, which probably bothered Kenny Omega. So we can save it for the drive-thru if you want, or we can do it here, it's up to you. Well, let's save it there because I'm tired of twinkle-toes.
Starting point is 02:38:25 And also, on the drive-thru this week, also, we've got a special talk with the least, side of wrestling with Stephen P. New, that'll be on the drive-thru, and we'll talk about Ostrich, because I just got a chance to read some of his comments. And I don't know whether they're working, it doesn't seem like they're working or that Ostrich is working about
Starting point is 02:38:45 Harpo, because he's not that good of worker. He sounds like he really dislikes the guy, and I believe that. But, you know, you never know with these people, but let me give a little tease right before we got a Racon. Let me give a little tease of what's coming up on the drive-through. Here's a quote from Will Osprey that I probably have to bleep on YouTube. The worst thing is people are going to listen and be like, they're building to something.
Starting point is 02:39:08 We're not building up to anything. He's a cunt. I will slap that boy and remind him, you're a fucking 40-year-old man and you're fucking fragile. Do you really want to get with me? I will end you. So there, plenty of love in the air between ostrich and Harpo. And just for the record, in case anybody's taking notes. Neither one of them are the greatest wrestler in the history of the world.
Starting point is 02:39:33 Come on! Have we all lost our fucking rabbit-ass minds? That's right. Don't forget about Richard Belser. Well, yeah, there you go. He took a mighty fine bump. He took one on the show, too,
Starting point is 02:39:47 as well as the ones in the locker room before the show. But nevertheless. What? I was, I don't know, you got the transitioner I got it, but there's so many different options here. You send me an email.
Starting point is 02:39:59 Well, it happened again, and now it's happening again. I'm talking to you on Skype. I'm dealing with my remodeling, and I'm trending on Twitter because anytime somebody sees something ridiculous on a wrestling program, they all get on to talk about me and what I'm going to say about it rather than what they were actually watching. So I continue to trend apparently on Twitter automatically due to these things. Well, let me ask you about one of them, because I have something here. I think this was one of the reasons you started the trend the other day.
Starting point is 02:40:36 And now you have become beyond the post office ninja and the most irrelevant man who's relevant in wrestling. I think you're now the king of clickbait because every single website listens to the podcast and then just take snippets of what you say. Yeah. And that becomes a headline that drives people fucking mad. Jim Cornett likes cool weather. Run with that. There was an article on a website Sports Skeeta, and it was you saying,
Starting point is 02:41:07 it was your hot take, it says here, from the Jim Cornett experience, I paid attention. Under one minute and 15 seconds, they, Moxley and Brody King, went to the floor. I just said, fuck it. Moxley's the worst wrestler in the world,
Starting point is 02:41:23 and I tried to fast forward to the finish, but AEW can't manage the time, so they almost ran over. and people lost their mind over you saying Moxley is the worst wrestler in the world. Can that be that unique of a comment? I mean, there are other people in the world that will watch Moxley wrestle and what other impression can you come away from it? Same thing every time.
Starting point is 02:41:51 Most of it looks phony. Some of it looks stiff and painful. Much of it looks dangerous. None of it makes any sense. can we find a silver lining in this dark rain cloud? So again, I'm appreciative that everybody wants to know what I think about everything, but it's not like these are revolutionary comments because if you got two eyes, a brain and cognitive function, you can see the things that I'm pointing out.
Starting point is 02:42:25 So it's not like I'm discovering the, goddamn what lays beneath the curse of Oak Island here. I'm just looking at what I'm, everybody's looking at and giving my thoughts. So I appreciate that they think that I'm revolutionary and groundbreaking that I can see all these things that nobody else can see. But I think you could probably see them if you just paid attention. And some people do see them,
Starting point is 02:42:50 but they're just too fucking gutless and chicken to tell the truth. But when it comes to Moxley, saying that he's not good or you don't like him you don't see it. That's one thing. The worst wrestler in the world, that takes in a lot of wrestlers. Well, yes, but then see, now you got to remember to grade on the curve. Because there are a lot of shitty wrestlers that nobody ever sees, right? And then there are more shitty wrestlers that some people see, every once in a while they do something good. But then there are people like the CEO of Moxley Plumbing that they're on.
Starting point is 02:43:29 TV all the time. And they're used in a prominent position. And there are some people who like that kind of thing, and for the kind of thing, or the kind of people who like that kind of thing, those are the kind of thing that those people like. But that is what truthfully makes him stand out because he's on TV all the time. He's in a pushed position where you would think that the guy in that position should know what the fuck he's doing.
Starting point is 02:43:58 And every time it's the same show. shit, and it wasn't that good the first time, and it's worse now. Talk about drinking blood. Do a promo that sounds great until you realize that he never really fucking made a point for three minutes. Go out there, face to face, trade a few blows that you're not trying to duck, hit the floor within a minute, rattle furniture around, do some more outlaw bullshit, pull out a thumbtack or two and do some screwy finish where it's
Starting point is 02:44:32 flattered in four o'clock because you choke the guy out with no fucking build to the climax whatsoever. Have you ever seen him do anything? Oh, and occasionally there's a stuntman bump thrown in if it's some kind of garbage stipulation match. What have I missed about John Moxley's matches that I didn't just mention? Oh, I forgot. and the phony elbows and things where he thinks that nobody's paying any attention
Starting point is 02:45:02 and he's just acting like he's hitting someone but he's really not. But if you're up in the cheap seats, it might fool you if you're on the other side and from behind. Now I've mentioned everything. Yeah, I'm not a big Moxley fan. I'm not a big fan of it. Motherfucker, now the car is me? Are they going to charge you two? Fuck off!
Starting point is 02:45:25 There we go. Now I get to do one on the show. show. I'm not a big Moxley fan. That was him on the line. And I think with a lot of wrestlers today, it is going to sound funny considering the CM Punk song, but I do think there's a cult of personality. Whether someone's talented or not in the ring, I think people latch on to the people and that's their person, and they're going to be with them ride or die. And I think there's a lot of people like that with Moxley, because sometimes I watch them and I can't understand how anyone sees very much in him.
Starting point is 02:45:57 And I just watched him last night of dynamite. I'll wait to talk about that because I know you haven't watched it yet. Another match where I thought his opponent really shined, actually. And people say that was Moxley doing that, but you'll see what I mean. But I wouldn't call him the worst wrestler in the world. Now, I do think he's been overexposed for me because I certainly didn't not like him as much as I don't like him right now when he was on TV less, when he wasn't the AEW champion on TV every week.
Starting point is 02:46:24 but I don't he's one of those guys I don't get and early on I heard comparisons when he was Dean Ambrose you heard the Terry Funk ones and the Roddy Piper ones I know before I'd ever seen this guy I heard all that and then I saw him I'm like what the that was part of the big letdown I was built up to think oh shit this guy might be something that this and and you would have thought that he would try to come into the company and make them more professional because he's worked for whether you like it or not folks the biggest wrestling promotion in the world and he's learned or should have learned like others of those people have something about major league television production and how to bring in an audience with a story and instead of this garbage indie shit and he couldn't wait to get out of there so that he could forget anything that he
Starting point is 02:47:23 might have accidentally learned and go back to garbage wrestling. The guy idolizes the bank addicted drug robber. The guy goes out of his way to do these garbage wrestling shows where they have hardcore bullshit because that's his fetish and his fantasy. But yet still, he's allowing himself and promoting himself to be pawned off on the wrestling public as a real legitimate mainstream major league star in wrestling. and he's got the worst garbage indie outlaw habits of anybody this side of fucking Ian Rotten. So I think he's not only the shits, I think he's bad for the business.
Starting point is 02:48:06 And the impressionable youngsters that don't, they don't know any better, they refuse to learn and they won't take legitimate advice from competent professionals, but they'll copy the fuck out of what he does because that's their same mark-minded philosophy about wrestling. And then they can say, but I'm just doing it because Moxley does it and he's a star. So that's why a guy like that is worse for the business than somebody who you don't ever see and is somewhere isolated in a little outlaw show and doesn't mean anything. But this guy is high profile and he's the shits. And he encourages other wrestlers to be the shits. but I guess the question is
Starting point is 02:48:56 are you the shits if the people like you? Can you both be the shits and be popular? Can you be the shits and be popular? Both these things can be true because we just talked about McDonald's. Most of their food is the shits. I mean, it's if you find the one place
Starting point is 02:49:17 where the manager cares and the employees give a shit and you catch them when they've just cooked it otherwise it's a shits, but the lines are around the block because of the marketing, merchandising, and mass hysteria. And that's what I think has taken over
Starting point is 02:49:35 with some of the marketing, merchandising and mass hysteria for pockets, for fucking Moxley, for a variety of these pet projects that the marks that are in charge of the wrestling business these days think are,
Starting point is 02:49:52 funny and cute. You want to talk about this smackdown while I'm on the subject of this. I'm just taking this thing over. I don't know. Lou, be more forceful. God damn it. Oh. You have any other comments to make about anything? Anybody I've pissed off so far before we move on? Nope. I think the only thing I would say is that, you know, you're the name that trends worldwide, even when you're not doing anything. Your name falls from the chicken lips of Pat McAfee on Friday night, and then all of a sudden the social media world is ablaze with your mention of your position as co-host of episode one. Well, thankfully, he didn't mention my position at that particular point because it was prone
Starting point is 02:50:42 and probably with my balls in my hand because I was asleep, but go ahead. Yes. And so, yeah, Smackdown reached the arbitrary 1,200th episode on Friday in Montreal in the province of Quebec. And so at the top of the show, McAfee was jabbering with Michael Cole and said, I was 11 years old when you and Jim Cornett called that momentous show. And, of course, if you looked at Michael Cole, he had to dip his head a little, looks like he... for me. He popped for me. He broke. It was, yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:23 You know, here's the thing. Michael, Michael and I have never had a crossword and I enjoyed him as a person and he, and, you know, it wasn't hard to work with him. He's maybe a little bit harder than it is now because he was brand fucking new then. And every once in a way, get the deer in the headlights thing. Like, what do we do now? Because he'd never done it
Starting point is 02:51:42 before. But, um, uh, but no, I had fun with Michael. but that was Pat McAfee doesn't have chicken lips now Pat's our boy I won't bestow chicken lips upon him but yeah it was the 1200th program as you mentioned and
Starting point is 02:52:01 Pat was you know mentioning that he was 11 years old that makes me feel well I was only 24 back then maybe give or take of 10 years or so but anyway it was April 29th 1999 and Michael Cole and I did the pilot for the very first Smackdown episode,
Starting point is 02:52:22 which was the pilot for the ongoing series that debuted that fall for the UPN network back then. And that was a big deal because at that time since the NBC deal, the last NBC deal that had had, and then they had had one or two maybe specials on Fox a few years before, but they hadn't been on any kind of network TV, the WWE. And that was 1999. So what, what had it been, five, six, seven years at least, I think? And do you remember off top of your head?
Starting point is 02:52:58 Not off the top of my head, but I'll do some digging. See if you can Google that. But it was a big deal to them in time internally in the studio and in the office because do they still have the UPN net? Maybe you ought to Google that first. Is the UPN network still even around? Well, it's back a while ago, UPN and the WB merged to become the CW. And I should have remembered that because our station in Louisville here with Ohio Valley Wrestling was the WB.
Starting point is 02:53:32 And they were actually the strongest signal in town at one point. They put up a brand new transmitter and they had to gear the power back. It was supposed to be Channel 34 out of, I was, Smoky Mountain Wrestling was, as, a side trip here while you're Googling thing. Smoggy Mount Wrestling was on a little station in Campbellsville, Kentucky, Channel 34, and they ran it out of a mobile home.
Starting point is 02:53:55 And suddenly, when Louisville got a new TV station, I find out that it's the channel 34 from down here in Campbellsville, but they've got an open license in Louisville and were able to make the switch
Starting point is 02:54:11 and they started Channel 7 here in Louisville, WBK, and the first, it was seven on cable, but it was still channel 34 over the air, but the first antenna, the transmitter that they put up was so powerful that people were picking it up on like 33, 34, 35, and we have a channel 32, so it was gumming shit up.
Starting point is 02:54:34 They had to cut their power back. But anyway, I don't know why I mentioned, oh, we were a WB affiliate at the same year. I believe it was 98 or 99. Networks popped up from the UPN United Paramount Network and WB, which was Warner Brothers. And so there were more network choices. And that was a big deal with the office at the time. They were trying to get back on network TV broadcast affiliates in all the locations,
Starting point is 02:55:07 which I've said is always said is more important for drawing live event crowds to wrestling. local broadcast television than cable. Right. But anyway, did you find out the network information? Yeah, looking up here on God help us, Wikipedia. Let's see. There was a gap. The last Saturday Night's main event, number 31,
Starting point is 02:55:38 aired on Fox, October 27, 1992, 1992. and then there was a gap of almost 14 years. The next one aired on NBC on March 18th, 2006. Okay, so basically UPN was the network debut of some network for the first time in seven years. And then they were looking forward to it, but here's the deal. It was a pilot episode. They wanted to make sure that it was polished and good and et cetera, so it wasn't a live broadcast. They taped it.
Starting point is 02:56:14 And then Michael Cole and I did voiceovers at the studio, as we often did with syndicated TV or episodes of RAW that weren't live back in those days or whatever. So we voiced it over. And the reason that it was Michael Cole and myself, Michael had been
Starting point is 02:56:33 doing syndication, I think, at that point. That was still a thing. And, you know, the various ancillary shows. JR and Lawler were the raw team and that was USA Network and this was going to be another network and if they picked it up they didn't
Starting point is 02:56:51 they didn't want to have the same announced team and Michael Cole was their next you know play by play guy that they wanted to push behind JR because as we've mentioned Kevin Dunn liked Michael Cole he had a background in real news even though Kevin Kelly was more advanced as a wrestling broadcaster. So they're
Starting point is 02:57:09 grooming Michael and honestly Kevin Dunn wasn't particularly a fan of it but otherwise than Lawler in the company at that point in time they had nobody else doing color that was ready to do a network pilot
Starting point is 02:57:25 so I was the guy and that's what Michael Cole was sitting there at one time we were taking one of the breaks and he said because he knew I already knew at that point everybody knew I was coming to Louisville to work with OVD This was the end of April of 99 and that we had settled on that April, May June because I came here July 1st, so three months in advance.
Starting point is 02:57:49 So the first of that month, they knew I was moving. And Michael Cole says, well, what are you going to do if they, you know, pick us up in September or whatever? I said, well, you're going to be coming to Louisville every week, I guess, is the only way I can figure this because I'm going. I don't know about you. But anyway, so apparently, as you mentioned, the top of this drawn-out segment, by mentioning my name, I trended on Twitter again. When Pat McAfee mentioned my name,
Starting point is 02:58:22 oh, they talked about him. And so I thank everybody who was happy to hear my name, but goddamn, that's the thing Stace was saying the other day. Because, you know, on Friday night, they turn on Pat McAfee, And then just last week, we turned on Svengooly, and there I'm on Svenguli or whatever it was two weeks ago. She said, Goddamn, I can't get away from you. Every time I just turn on a regular television show or something, they're talking about you.
Starting point is 02:58:51 I'm popular. I'm trendy McTrenderson. Well, Jim, while we were talking about all this, I was researching why you're trending. Apparently, it's several. What have I done? It's several things, apparently. Oh, boy, several things. Several of the news sites or the clickbait sites,
Starting point is 02:59:09 whatever you want to call them, have jumped on various comments you made on recent episodes. Jim Cornett urges AEW star to join WWE quote as quickly as possible. Wardlow. That's right, but it doesn't say that in the headlines. You have to click first to find it. Well, yeah, but goddamn, how is that shocking? Anybody can see that he's tailor-made for the WWE.
Starting point is 02:59:32 Anybody can see that the way they're using, him and AEW has killed all of his forward momentum. It's not his fault. He needs to go somewhere where they have a plan in place. Well, obviously every one of these quotes that's put out there, there's a lot of people that agree with it, and there's a lot of people that get really, really upset by it. Here's another one. Dan Lambert, Jim Cornett is the greatest manager of all time. That was another article tweeted out, so that got people talking. Thank you, Dan. Appreciate that. I still defer to Bobby Heenan, but, you know, Dan's a Southern boy, so he may not have got to see enough of Bobby. And then here is also related to the Wardlow thing.
Starting point is 03:00:14 I guess another site has tweeted out an image of Wardlow and Brian Cage with a giant Jim Cornett quote from the Jim Cornett experience. Thank you, Sports Skeeta, for crediting the Jim Cornett experience. We'll give you credit now. And that got people going bananas. Here's another one. Jim Cornett speaks his mind about Bray Wyatt's return to W. That's got people going back shit. Oh boy, a bunch of people are pissed off about that.
Starting point is 03:00:38 We'll talk about that in a minute. And then this may be another reason right here, approximately an hour ago, a tweet sent out by Soraya, dirt sheets, podcasters, and an old man that loves to have his voice heard, even if it's full of shit. And then in parentheses, it says, Cornette. Oh, I thought, why she mad at Eric Bischoff? Loves to talk about me. You're welcome for the clicks and views. Hey, listen, the last video didn't get that many clicks, so don't. I was about saying she's...
Starting point is 03:01:10 Now's not the time. Now's not the time. Yeah, she's like all the other AEW debuts. First night in, boom. After that, the law of diminishing returns. But thank you, sweetie, for your support. Yeah, this is our house. Sweetness.
Starting point is 03:01:25 Get the fuck out of here. This is our house. It's our house. But those are... some of the various reasons why apparently you're trending right now. Apparently, I've turned the page. It wouldn't be an episode of the drive-through or the experience without you trending. You're trending right now.
Starting point is 03:01:42 Would you like to guess while you're trending? No. Okay. No, because I have no idea this time. All right. Let me see where this all seems to be stemming from. I'm going to turn on the Twitter machine, too. Did you tweet out something about Kota Ibushi today?
Starting point is 03:02:01 Oh. that was early this morning yeah somebody else had a tweet a clip of one of his classic matchups with the fucking blow-up sex toy and as a hey for all the dip shits that they oh it'll be great we can get the great kota abushi at a e w well here's one of his classic matches the guy's worse than fucking harpo at least harpo can every once in a while can fucking come up with something that makes us laugh how is it so that's basically what Yeah, basically, yeah, Bushi is the shits. Here he is exposing the business, wrestling a sex doll, evenly, competitively,
Starting point is 03:02:41 and fuck him, too, just like his friend Harpo. I trend for that? Yeah, because apparently a lot of people don't like that. You know, of course, it gives people a lot of chance, even if they know why or not to whip out the video of you versus Calabunga. You mean, a living, a living, breathing human. A living breathing human. Oh, my God, they can't get it.
Starting point is 03:03:02 can they? And yeah, and everybody says, oh, Kota Abushi as well, but it's because they bought Uncle Dave's bullshit. And they think he's, he's so great. He's a fucking disrespectful piece of shit like his fucking ex-tag team partner Harpo. And they both deserve the same response for me. That's why they get it.
Starting point is 03:03:21 But if they want to trend me again over that, big shit. A lot of things happening in the world of wrestling this week, Jim. Let's start talking about them. And we have a lot to catch up on. And we have another experience to record just a few days. So there's a lot going on. Let's start with the really, really sad news here as we start the show. Matt Hardy is still wrestling.
Starting point is 03:03:42 Yep, yeah. Unfortunately, we hate to have to bring that to you, folks. And he's better at that than he is at Twitter. Let me just explain. I have trended on Twitter again nonstop for like the past two days while I was taking Stacy to her back doctor appointment and seeing whether she needed another MRI and I was out in the yard
Starting point is 03:04:08 trying to get some work done in between these rainstorms and I'm vigorously rubbing Harley's belly as well as trying to run our various business enterprises and they the I don't know whether it's the Hardy faithful and the AEW faithful and just the people with no lives have continued to make me and you, Brian, both of us trended. At one point,
Starting point is 03:04:37 we were both trending and you were trending more than I was trending, you trendy McTrenderson. At one point, apparently, I've been sent all these screen caps. I was the number one trending item in sports. At one point, it was me and Pete Alonzo from the Mets, so that made me happy. And another point was me and Eddie Murphy, some Long Island. So that made me happy, two Long Island guys, Nassau County. They kept us alive while we, you know, basically, went about our business and we want to thank everyone for the extra added exposure of not only us as prominent people, but yourselves as complete morons. You know what kind of upset me? It was all happening. And as it was happening, we started
Starting point is 03:05:14 getting these comments. I can't wait to hear about this. And I'm like, fuck, we still have an episode to drop before we could even record the episode to talk about this. Well, and for the people who have been living under the proverbial rock or who are lucky enough, not to be on Twitter at all. All this emanated from Matt Hardy, apparently, I guess it was late at night. Does Matt drunk tweet? Everything was spelled approximately correctly.
Starting point is 03:05:43 There was some questionable, you know, grammar, but that would be normal. But he has to, late at night on a Saturday or Sunday night or whatever was on a weekend, get on Twitter. and he's remember folks a grown man nearly 50 years old telling people that they should give his other grown adult friends grown adult males
Starting point is 03:06:11 supposed professional athletes they're flowers they don't praise Kenny and Maddie and Nicky enough they should give them their flowers this is a quote and we'll don't worry we're going to quote everything folks If you want to hear this exchange, we're going to be reading it,
Starting point is 03:06:31 but he wanted to give their friends, his friends, their flowers now, and it's only because of haters and the toxic Cornette cultists that everybody in the world doesn't love and get all furry and fuzzy over everything that my friends who also employ me. Bingo. and pay me Bingo Do
Starting point is 03:07:01 and it's just it can't be legitimately because anybody in the world would ever just say no these guys are the shits I don't like they're wrestling I think they're silly phony fucking childish cretons
Starting point is 03:07:15 No it's because you and I Brian and basically you and I because I don't think the cult of cornet being toxic, poisonous. I know what he's saying it. He's saying there that we're just toxic and poisonous,
Starting point is 03:07:36 and we have toxic poisonous listeners. And that's the only reason that anybody in the world could possibly dislike my friends. So give them flowers. Yeah, see, that's the thing. It's one thing coming after you or even, you know, an idiot like me. It's one thing coming after from a 14-year-old girl. give my friend some flowers. But he's going after the listeners,
Starting point is 03:07:59 because it's their fault that they don't think the way he does, that they're not soft in the head. Now, he says the listeners are toxic. I'll take him at his word, whether it's chemical or behavioral toxicity. He seems to be quite the expert in toxic. But that's the thing. It wasn't even about me and you.
Starting point is 03:08:16 He came after the listeners. That's the thing. That's the thing. He doesn't want to tag us, as the kids say. He didn't want to mention this. he just wants to knock our fans and our listeners. He didn't know. But he doesn't even want to do that because he is a fucking listener.
Starting point is 03:08:32 Let's be very honest about it. He's a member of the cult of Cornett. He wants to get the points for knocking the listeners. He's using our listeners as a tool, treating them like shit. To suck up to the EVP. That's right. That's right. And he thought that if he didn't put our names in there, that he just said the toxic.
Starting point is 03:08:52 But of course, immediately anybody who says, what the fuck are you doing, Matt Hardy? Informs us and spreads the word around about how they're being called toxic and poisonous and et cetera. And so I merely responded to him and went to fucking bed.
Starting point is 03:09:14 And then he apparently, because you stay up later than I do, Brian, because you're not only busier with all of the technical empire that you've got up there, but you're a younger person. with children. So you're up past 8.30 quarter to nine. I was working
Starting point is 03:09:28 on my quarterly taxes. Well, I don't know what I was doing. And so he continues to, now he's just all fired up. And this goes into the wee hours with him now arguing with you
Starting point is 03:09:44 still claiming that he's somehow in the right for telling our fans that they're poisonous. And then the whole floodgates open up of people who can spell all the words right and who use some punctuation and who have a grasp on the comment that they're trying to make and express themselves in sometimes sarcastic, sometimes witty, sometimes deep manners. And then you have the others that
Starting point is 03:10:16 I don't know what the fuck they're doing or what they're on, but they're clearly on the other side of that and they've all just lost their minds over it. And it wasn't that big, I mean, the crowd on our side seemed to be quite significantly larger than the people defending Matt Hardy. But no, but see, the thing is the accounts, the accounts are about the same because if you look at, if you look at the people going, there's something wrong with Matt Hardy and what the fuck is he doing? Well, they're normal people with normal profiles.
Starting point is 03:10:52 or a significant number of followers or following people or whatever and everybody else that wants to say well, one of the or two of the tweets will read but everybody wants to say corn out and last thing they've got zero followers, they follow seven people
Starting point is 03:11:08 or there's a picture of some generic person that they pulled off of fucking Getty images or whatever the case may be. So I think that the account numbers it's pretty 50-50 but the actual people behind them I think it's 95 to 5.
Starting point is 03:11:24 You know, and the other thing is he used the audience. He was using the audience and trying to put down the audience. But the truth of the matter is Matt Hardy is upset that even you can't pretend that his shit is good anymore. That's the problem. The problem is that we come on here and honestly talk about what we think of what we watch. And it has been impossible to see Matt Hardy. let's just go back to the first moment he was in AEW because that's like the last four years or so.
Starting point is 03:11:55 It's been impossible to see that and think any of it's good. Either the performances in the ring, either the craptastic performances on the mic, the concussions. Well, and let's be fair, the way he's been booked also, which may or may not be his fault or he may or may not have contributed to
Starting point is 03:12:16 because that's up in the air. Tony's also probably had a big hand in that, but how many times have they damaged his brain and couldn't figure out how to put the Hardy Boys back together? And this is the thing we've never said. The Hardy Boys aren't a draw. We said they aren't a draw now because of the way they've been put back together.
Starting point is 03:12:38 I booked Matt and Jeff Hardy and Smoggy Man wrestling when they were teenagers. I booked them on goddamn WWF TV tapings to do jobs when they were teenagers. I used them in OVW. I booked Matt to come back to Ring of Honor in 2012, I believe. There's been value in them. But it's ridiculous at this point.
Starting point is 03:13:05 Not only the teleportation, the changing clothes and the ice machine, the fact that they're still trying to be the Hardy Boys when they're each almost, almost 15 years older than the Rock and Roll Express were when they were in Smoky Mountain wrestling and people say, I used the rock and roll when they were over the hill. The fuck. To the bad booking. To the fact that they literally, factually, demonstrably gave him brain damage and allowed
Starting point is 03:13:36 the thing to go on. In that whatever kind of arena match they were having, whatever they called it, when he got speared off the fucking forklift. and could walk for three minutes, and they let that go on. And then, wasn't it then the next week, or was it the week before that? The Sammy Guevara hocked a chair in his face and busted him from asshole to appetite. I forgot about that one, actually. Yes.
Starting point is 03:14:03 So the point is, this is the company he's taken up for. And the only thing we've said is that goddamn A, Matt should be ashamed of himself for the past few years for changing clothes and ice machines and teleportation. and teleportation and trying to do all this shit that he can't fucking do instead of trying to be a force for good and logic as a veteran saying,
Starting point is 03:14:29 don't do this stupid shit, you're going to kill yourself. And then when his brother comes in after all those chances and they botch reuniting them so that they don't draw any money and they've put them in a meaningless position.
Starting point is 03:14:47 I also think his work sucks. And again, Well, it does now. We're talking about AW. But remember, before that, all of a sudden, this broken, woken, bullshit fucking stuff shot at his house.
Starting point is 03:14:58 That was one of the turning points. All of a sudden, impact, which had just completely given up, and that is continued to this day, apparently, started letting him do that. They turned it over to this
Starting point is 03:15:09 adult swim kind of stuff. There is an audience for that. There is a relatively small audience. but an audience that likes that. But it wasn't good to a lot of other people, and he's worse today than he was then. So the point is, Matt had a meltdown on Twitter until late in the night, and then it became a,
Starting point is 03:15:31 and which you primarily carried the banner for our side on, because I was asleep, and then a bunch of people picked up on it, we all trended for a couple of days. Would you, and coming back again, Going back again to the original, because I didn't even see anything until I saw the tweet that said, oh, the cult of Cornette is toxic. But it was the origination of that was him trying to say that some match was great when other people were saying, no, it wasn't great.
Starting point is 03:16:03 And he, you know, we need to give the kids their flowers. So can you bring the people up in chronological order on this chain of events? Yes. Matt Hardy, best known for standing on the April. wrote this on July 7th, Dark Order versus the Elite was a fantastic match. It's nice to see Dark Order earns such a well-deserved spotlight. Hashtag AEW Rampage.
Starting point is 03:16:29 The Young Bucks and Adam Page are extraordinary talents that will unfortunately get their flowers way later than they should. You know, Big Mamas used to be right on the spot with delivering those flowers. Big Mama's flower shop in Charlotte. But now I guess she's got so much business, it takes a while to get the flowers out there. And let me just say before we get into all the back and forth, because I think he's such a goof. But I also do feel bad and sympathize for his situation. And like a tweet like this spells it out.
Starting point is 03:17:01 Like these are likely his last years of earning income if we really just want to put it out there. And he's trying to hold on. And by doing so, he's trying to latch on to these fucking guys. and that's why you get out of nowhere tweets begging people to accept the people that he's latched on to. So he tweeted that out. Then someone... And by the way, and I don't...
Starting point is 03:17:25 There's nothing wrong. I mean, it was a patronizing tweet, but he works for the company. He's praising the talents. There's nothing wrong with what he just said. And obviously, since nothing was mentioned about us, I would not have had anything to say about it. So someone named Ryan quote tweeted him, saying, Matt's right, though. I know it's cool to hate on the bucks and hangman if you're a punk collision fan.
Starting point is 03:17:50 But not for me. Give those guys their flowers. More flowers. You know, by the way, I would love to give those guys. I'd buy them the whole flower shop. Big banners across them, rest in peace. I'd love that. Should the bucks come out to you don't bring me flowers?
Starting point is 03:18:07 You don't? Do you know? Brian last year in the music business, Neil Diamond and Barbara Streisand, right? 1978 or 9? I believe so. Am I correct? I think I'm not one of the records I buy, but yes. Do you know how that duet originated?
Starting point is 03:18:28 No, tell me. A DJ here in Louisville. Both Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond had recorded that song and he did, what do the kids call it, the mashup, the mix up? He put them together in the studio and they got so many requests, people went apeshit over the thing that it actually got back to the record company and they did it. How about that? Wow, I had no idea about the history of that song. Go look it up sometime in your little black book.
Starting point is 03:18:58 But anyway. It'll be in my book. It certainly won't be in my record collection. But Matt Hardy quote tweeted Ryan saying, between this and the toxic cornet cult. Uh-huh. These guys don't get the adoration that they truly deserve. The die-hard elite fans are phenomenal and get why they're special. But there's a huge chunk of fans that failed to give them the credit they deserve.
Starting point is 03:19:25 Give these guys their flowers. The flowers! Is he high? What the fuck is he talking about? I don't know. Is he burning the flowers? Again. Not the vape.
Starting point is 03:19:39 Give them the flowers. Hint! hint! If it... You can fucking verbally phallate these guys all you want if you don't knock our listeners
Starting point is 03:19:54 and say the cult of Cornett is so toxic because we don't think that these guys are worth a shit. I'm sorry. It's a terrible thing that everybody in the world doesn't like your fucking friends that pay you. But there's no reason to call all of our listeners toxic
Starting point is 03:20:12 because they don't like play wrestling. So that's when I was alerted to this when I checked it on Twitter at whatever point that was and I merely responded to Matt in a fairly respectful manner for me. Oh, would like me to read that one too? I would like because you got them in front of you.
Starting point is 03:20:33 I don't know how to pull all this shit up. Geez, Matt. I can understand selling your soul for rock and roll, but selling it for Adderall? even if you have to abandon your principles and verbally fillate these childish cretons for your check leave my fans alone it's not their fault Tony's not paying them enough to lie
Starting point is 03:20:54 and that was my comment and I've left it there it's don't don't bring our people into this fucking thing and that's where I left it and then apparently Matt could not go to bed he couldn't go to sleep he couldn't leave it alone he knew what was waiting in the bedroom
Starting point is 03:21:17 oh now come on now that's what he said that's what he said at the end well i know you're dramatic foreshadowing but at the same time some people said is it was it rebby that had his phone because you couldn't believe it just he's going to go on and argue this all fucking night right but people could believe she would because she does sometimes. No, we did hear that from a lot of people, and to be honest, I'm not too familiar with her prose
Starting point is 03:21:48 so I could figure out if the writing styles hers or not, but it doesn't matter. Shut up, turn off your phone. Don't try to go back and forth. You're not going to win. So, after you were off the computer, which I knew, Matt Hardy responded, geez, Jim, I haven't sold my soul.
Starting point is 03:22:05 I'm sticking to my principles and telling truths. I feel morally obligated to do right by my friends, although that's probably foreign to you. I earn a check because I'm great at what I do and still employable. Keep on seating dissension amongst fans with your schick. It's too sweet. See, and again, is still employable not a synonym for needs work? and also is if I am 82 years old
Starting point is 03:22:43 and I'm sitting under my dogwood tree petting Harley the 4th are people going to go Boy it's a shame nobody will give him a job What the fuck? Again Matt tries to do the shock jock thing
Starting point is 03:23:03 because that's verbiage from Maddie and Nikki his doppelgangers. Can I say something about that? Yes. I grew up in New York. I grew up with Howard Stern, my father, Lydimus,
Starting point is 03:23:18 Opie and Anthony when they hit, sports talk radio, all this shit. Whether it's Matt Hardy and where's he from, North Carolina, or the bucks in California, shut the fuck up about shock jocks. You guys don't know anything about shock jocks,
Starting point is 03:23:31 you idiots. Well, but in this case, it's another, it's a synonym, a k-fabe term for truth-teller. Yeah, all those people are telling a truth about my friends. They all want to be shocking. No, we just want to get your fucking friends off our television. But you see, this is part of the bigger problem,
Starting point is 03:23:51 which is that, and I posted something about this on the Culticornaf Facebook group, if you talk to people in wrestling, and if you talk to wrestling media personalities or whatever the fuck everyone is, you get real stuff. You get real talk, you get gossip, you get real opinions, real thoughts. A lot of these people, when they get on the air, those opinions and thoughts are gone. They're not going to say what they really think, and you understand why. They don't want to upset people, or maybe they want to edge their way into a job one day for one of the companies.
Starting point is 03:24:23 There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that out there. We don't do that because we're happy doing this. I've already done that and you don't want to do it. That's it. This is what we're doing. The idea that unless you're doing a wrestling version of the Drew Barrymore show, where you hold the guest hands and you kiss them and you tell them how much you love them,
Starting point is 03:24:45 that you're negative or this and that. No, we're honest. We're honest. I love late night TV. I love David Letterman. I thought Craig Ferguson was the last great late night talk show host. Conan, tapes of Cavett, and Carson. I love all this stuff.
Starting point is 03:25:00 I can say Jimmy Fallon sucks. And I'm allowed to say, I am happy, James Corden returned to England because he sucked too. You can appreciate good stuff and point your finger and say it about the bad stuff. And again, a lot of the things that people get upset about that we talk about, everyone in the fucking business talks about. Of course. They're just not prepared to go on the record saying it.
Starting point is 03:25:24 I'm not looking to be friends with wrestlers. I don't give a fuck. So anyway, I responded to Matt Hardy because I knew you weren't on the computer. And again, he's attacking the listeners. and he's saying that we're seating dissension. So I wrote, he thinks he's great at what he does because he said he's still great at what he does.
Starting point is 03:25:44 We've all been watching. His promo suck. His in-ring work is shit. And the only thing anyone has ever been interested in him doing is tagging in his brother. Jim telling the truth is, quote, seating dissension? How many concussions is too many?
Starting point is 03:26:02 And Matt Hardy responded, to me. I'm great at what I do, Brian Least. I'm great at pro wrestling. I'm great at giving back and helping young talent. You're just some asshole with an opinion. And that opinion doesn't mean shit in reality, but most importantly, just an asshole.
Starting point is 03:26:23 By the way, you seem to care a lot about this asshole's opinion, buddy boy. So I responded, because again, he's arguing over how great it is. But I know now you've got him hopping up and down like one of the Rock and Roll Express fans. in 1986. And again, now the defense is he's arguing his greatness. He's arguing his greatness with the great Brian last. And the reason why he's so great, that proves that our fans are poisonous. So I wrote, you've been a great enabler, but you know your crap is sucked for years.
Starting point is 03:26:51 And that's Mr. Asshole to you. Yeah. Toxic. I think we should start a company called Toxic. That's good. Toxic wrestling. No, just toxic. We could poison everything.
Starting point is 03:27:03 Well, no, let's not say that. That's not funny. We don't want to poison things. Well, no, we're toxic. That's what non-toxic means a kid can stick it in his mouth, right? Well, toxic, we're going to market this shit is your kids can't stick it in their mouths. Well, can we market the toxicity that it's self-contained, it won't be spread? No, what's the good of toxicity if you can't spread it? People may not want it. Well, they're going to get it. Well, let's go back to toxic Matt Hardy here. another shitty joke must be your forte least my shit's good your shit is shit you toxic bitch ass asshole that's a first i've not seen that combination of you're a toxic bitch asshole yeah toxic oh god damn it are the hearties up there in the hall of fame yet if as soon as they get put in one day then you can say that a Hall of Famer has called you a toxic bitch-ass asshole. Which Hall of Fame is that? The Sackler Family Hall of Fame, but let me go back to the tweets here. I said, are you trying to convince yourself?
Starting point is 03:28:12 Your work is shit. Stay home. No one will care. You seem much more toxic than I am with a track record to back it up. I'm better at what I do than you are at whatever it is you are still trying to do and it signed Mr. asshole to you. You know, and you got him with a point there
Starting point is 03:28:35 because you are better at what you are currently doing than he is at what he is currently doing. That wasn't a joke or anything. I'm very, very serious. Because this is the number one wrestling podcast in the genre of wrestling podcasts, and he is a wrestler and he is not the number one wrestler
Starting point is 03:28:54 in the genre of wrestlers. So that's pretty cut and dry. That's right. And more people care about what we're talking about here on the show, more people want to listen to it, then we'll tune in to see Matt Hardy. And that's a fact, too. Actually, most of the time,
Starting point is 03:29:07 by the time we get finished with all the various feeds, more people tune in to hear what we have to say than see the show that he's on. Well, let's go back to the Hardy compound. Don't have to convince myself. My live reactions, paycheck and appearance fees, solidify I'm good. I don't know shit about you, nor care to.
Starting point is 03:29:27 So keep doing what you're good at, you goofy bitch-ass asshole. Now, is that two times you were a bitch-ass asshole? Well, this time goofy, too. But at least not toxic. I'll do the same, and you can continue to whine and cry about it like a baby. So I responded, how dare you? You're way goofier than me. You understand that you are the one whining and crying, right?
Starting point is 03:29:53 Can you still comprehend that much? once again you seem quite toxic on caps is everything okay he wrote he's still what time is this
Starting point is 03:30:06 well you know now that I look at these screen caps may be from a different times it's 5.11 a.m. it couldn't have been 511 a.m. You weren't still up there
Starting point is 03:30:14 I don't think so I don't think so I work late into the night but at a certain point I'm not doing anything that late but let me go this is now the longest tweet
Starting point is 03:30:22 he sent out me stating that you two constantly fuel a toxic culture isn't whining. It's just hard truths. You constantly moaning and bitching about me wrestling is whining and crying. Can you discern that? Or are you a moon calf? I'm great, by the way. Just at a huge con in Tennessee. I'm great, by the way. Wait a minute. I'm great, by the way. By the way, he said he doesn't care about it by opinion. He says he doesn't listen. You constantly moaning and bitching about me wrestling. Yeah, you listen, you fucking dope. And we know
Starting point is 03:30:54 it. Dope. But anyway, I'm great, by the way, just at a huge con in Tennessee. Have four beautiful kids, financially set for life, still get to live my dream, have major respect within my industry. If I say so myself, am considered a living legend. Then a huge contributor to pro wrestling, and no rando from the internet's opinion is going to change any of this. And by the way, he pays for the deal where you can just tweet as long as you want to tweet, right? Either he pays for it or he was grandfathered in, we don't know for sure.
Starting point is 03:31:29 Okay, but one way or not, because that's how this is so voluminous here. Especially not an egotistical asshole like Brian Least. Congrats on the podcast. It'll be a great way to be remembered in history. Enough of this silly-ass cyberconvo. It's time to go crawl on top of my hot-ass wife.
Starting point is 03:31:49 Oh, he actually, and this is a quote, right? He literally wrote everything I just said. Yeah, and by the way, I will be very happy within wrestling to be remembered for the rest of history as being behind this show. Absolutely. 100%. We're the biggest thing ever. Don't ever forget that. And it's only getting bigger.
Starting point is 03:32:11 But anyway. And it's even going to go vain on it now. But anyway, he left it with, he's going to go crawl on top of his wife. Now, I didn't see this, I don't think, until the next morning. but I wrote back, Are you crying again? We call the bad shit bad. We call the good shit good.
Starting point is 03:32:29 You wouldn't be whining if you had produced anything in the last several years that we could have said anything good about. However, as you know, your work is shit. Have you thought about talking to someone? And at this point, many of the listeners started sending him links to better help. And so... Obviously, when I got back on Twitter, did I answer him one more time? Did I say one more thing to it?
Starting point is 03:32:58 You did because you didn't know any of this had happened. That's right. That's right. Because, yeah, the next day, what in the flying fuck is going on here? So the next morning you retweeted one of Matt's claims of how spectacular his life is because he did a convention in Tennessee. It was Fanboy Expo, by the way. Remember a few years ago I told the story about Dave? Dave, I remember that.
Starting point is 03:33:21 Couldn't help me find the fucking hotel I was supposed to be at and his cohort Tony Hunter, that moron? Go ahead. But you tweeted out, I'd like to thank Great Brian Lass for staying up into the night toying with this concussed ex-great while he was protesting too much about how successful he is. I go to sleep too early on Saturday nights to have time to play with kids. Golly, Matt, don't you have signings to do? And he responded to you.
Starting point is 03:33:50 And by the way, and I was incorrect. It was Sunday night. It was the night before. I wrote Saturday because, hey, it's all, every day's a weekend to me. Last night was Sunday, Jimmy. Maybe you're the concussed one. You're definitely an ex-great. I used to have massive respect for you.
Starting point is 03:34:08 But that's been long gone. That's the case with many people now. And it's sad, this is my final tweet to you. You, you and least, keep doing your shock. jock jock routines, and fanning those toxic flames of hate and negativity for your zombies to slurp up. Said, now they're zombies as well as poisonous, and they're slurpers. Make those bucks however you can, though, right?
Starting point is 03:34:34 I guess that's your philosophy, isn't it, Matt? Enjoy your life, Jim. I'll certainly enjoy mine. And hopefully, I was about to say hopefully he will live long enough to enjoy it if they don't keep damaging his brain over there and that company he's taking up for. So I responded, I know it must upset you, but it's 2023,
Starting point is 03:34:55 and the, quote, shock jocks matter more than you do. Do what you do best, and just tag in Jeff. You have certainly proven that you don't have the brain power for Twitter, let alone good promos, good angles, good matches,
Starting point is 03:35:12 or walking straight. Oh! And I don't think he responded after that. he didn't and and it was a lot of people were saying a lot of bad things about poor Matt because of that display that he had to go through and I'm sorry for that but as well I looked at my Twitter and remember I said a bunch of these are just they're obviously fake accounts because they have no profile generic picture you know single digit in followers or whatever the case, but there was actually some real people.
Starting point is 03:35:53 And I felt just like I was back in 1986 messing with the Rock and Roll Express. Only these were tweets instead of crayon postcards or whatever. But the, you know, Brian, that's the thing is our fans, I guess they are toxic. We've heard they're poisonous. They're zombies. They eat flesh and slurp, hatred. and, you know, they can only aspire and hope and dream to be as refined and classy and dignified and tolerant and verbose and eloquent
Starting point is 03:36:30 as the hearty fans and the hearty supporters out there that are obviously non-toxic, that obviously children can put these people in their mouths because they're not poisonous. And I got a bunch of them, but I retweeted, a couple of specific ones because it was kind of indicative but this person was
Starting point is 03:36:53 even a little bit more I don't know eloquent than most of the hearty supporters who as I mentioned are non-toxic and very refined and eloquent and tolerant would you read a couple of those missives please
Starting point is 03:37:09 yeah I have a couple here Jace you're going to have to bleep a few things here but I'm going to read it as it was because since we're not since we're not using this language, we're reporting language that was used to us. Is that still... It could still cause a problem for certain words, yes.
Starting point is 03:37:25 So then read it slowly where the people will have time to mentally fill in the blanks on the beeps. Don't make the beeps too loud, Jason, so it doesn't shock them. So you'll get the full effect of what this, again, exceptionally tolerant
Starting point is 03:37:45 and loving and caring and benevolent individual was saying about the toxic fans that we have and myself. Yeah, we received a lot. We received a lot from the toxic Hardy fans, the toxic elite fans, a lot more toxic than anything I've ever seen from the cult of Cornette, but it's hard for these people doing self.
Starting point is 03:38:02 As a matter of fact, this could be poisonous to your ears, folks. So anyway. Well, this was tweeted out from At Haughty Fan 24. And surprise, surprise, her image is her with, Matt Hardy, I'd like for you two f*** to go suck some more dick. Fuck both of you pieces of shit. Your moms should have swallowed your bitch asses. At least Matt Hardy's birth certificate wasn't an apology from the contemplator.
Starting point is 03:38:32 I didn't even read this before. I didn't see that. Fuck you two yeast infected cum bubbles. You're nobodies. And but you're nobody. Y-O-U-R. Yeah, you're nobody's. You're nobody's till somebody's loves you.
Starting point is 03:38:51 And here's another one from her. I bet that's why your last name is Cornette. Your mom used to suck cock that probably had corn on it after pulling it out of someone's ass. Suck so many and swallowed so much, she named her dump after it. When you open your mouth, dicks fall out. Fuck you and your boyfriend. bitch
Starting point is 03:39:15 but at least I'm not a bitch ass asshole fuck you and your boyfriend had an exclamation point bitch has nothing it's just bitch on it so just bitch and it trailed off yeah and now there's an update on that so many people believe it or not this this woman and I use the air quotes
Starting point is 03:39:36 this woman not only didn't delete her whole account or I don't even think those tweets but when people deluged her about what is meant wrong with you and talking about what she had said, her final response, I think, the next day or whatever, well, I was just mad. I shouldn't have said those things, but I was mad.
Starting point is 03:39:57 And then she sent out a tweet apologizing to me and you, Brian. Have you seen that one? I actually had not seen that, no. Yeah, I saw that. Well, I guess I shouldn't have said all that stuff, but I was mad, but I shouldn't speak that way. Apology accepted. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:40:13 Have you seen the picture of her? You know, let's just say a few things here. One, it's a popular thing to blame everything on Jim Cornette and now blame everything on his audience, because his audience are just mindless people, there's zombies who can't think for themselves. And there's so many of them. You know, goddamn, if the Walking Dead had had a cast like this,
Starting point is 03:40:35 they could have fucking taken over the whole goddamn world. Hey, listen, every single week, there are a lot more fans of these shows. Every single week, there are less people that care about Matt Hardy. There aren't any more new fans for Matt Hardy. This is it. This is the end. And he wants to blame us.
Starting point is 03:40:51 He wants to blame us for giving honest thoughts about his work. Now, you know, it wasn't even his work. At first, it was his friend's work. They didn't get their flowers. No, but this, based on what he said, this goes back. Then the true thoughts came out. Right. This goes back to the fact that his work has been shit for a very long time.
Starting point is 03:41:08 And Matt Hardy is upset that we're just not going to do. the Drew Barrymore type of wrestling programming that everyone else wants to do. And if you like that kind of stuff, go there. This is a show. These shows are built on honesty. We're honest with the listeners. I don't care what the wrestlers think
Starting point is 03:41:27 or the promotions think. I care what the listeners think. And I'm not going to start hiding my true feelings about these guys because it'll upset people. I don't care. I'm not looking to be friends with them. I'd rather be able to give an honest assessment
Starting point is 03:41:42 to the audience. I wish I could say the same thing about, about, I would love to still be friends with some of these people, but not at the cost of having to humor them when they have gone off the deep end, whether they're having matches with the invisible man or praising the buckaroos or doing whatever the fuck it is they're doing with the teleportation and the space aliens
Starting point is 03:42:10 or whatever the fuck. They have disappointed me. therefore I have to give my opinion because this is what I do and very well by the way no and everyone that's the thing there's a soft fan base and it's such a small fan base we do need to point out
Starting point is 03:42:25 it's not even like it's not even you know like the observer audience it's a small portion of the observer audience because we know because a lot of them are listening to this but there's a small group of them that are on the observer message but once again they pay Brian Alvarez
Starting point is 03:42:41 and Dave Meltzer so that they can go on a message board and hide and talk shit and say all sorts of slanderous things. They know they won't be sued. Dave and Brian will be sued. But we'll get to that at another point. Everyone wants to attack Jim Cornett and his fans. At some point in history, you guys want to talk about history, you guys are going to have to turn around and realize that you all miss this story. How big these shows are.
Starting point is 03:43:06 And how big this audience is. And how many people agree with what Jim says, don't think. follow what he says. You just hit it. The reason why is because all of these people are pissed the fuck off that these jackoffs have ruined a wrestling business. And at least they can get a kick the same kind of entertainment they used to get out of good wrestling by hearing us take the piss out of the bad wrestling. And it's easy to do because we don't have to make anything up. We can just relate what we see.
Starting point is 03:43:39 Yeah. So therein lies the problem is, If you don't want us to not give you your flowers, then don't go out there and take a shit in the middle of the ring. And don't attack the listeners. You got a problem with what we say come to us. Don't attack, don't out of nowhere attack the listeners because you're looking for points.
Starting point is 03:43:58 You're running out of points. I hate those fucking Madonna fans because I don't like her music. What the fuck? Just because, or vice versa. I hate those people that don't like my favorite. singer because they don't like my favorite singer. Well, maybe because your favorite singer sucks. The soft fan with weak takes, and some of them are just fans and some of them are in wrestling media, have a problem with anyone who doesn't tow that line and then they act in the toxic
Starting point is 03:44:28 manner that they accuse everyone else of acting in. How dare you say things? How dare you make fun of everyone? What? What? We can't make fun of things now? We can't make fun of things. Seriously, all the soft, weak-minded fans, all the people with the weak takes, all the people with a closet full of young bucks t-shirts, go fuck yourself. They make fun of the wrestling business, so we make fun of them. It's tit for tat. Only we got bigger tits than they've got tats. See? We have the biggest tits in wrestling podcasts.
Starting point is 03:45:05 Yeah. Boy, and boy, they're spectacular. and we like to make fun of stupid people doing stupid shit and we're going to continue to do that for the other people who like and let me ask you this Brian you're a big baseball fan right so isn't this human nature
Starting point is 03:45:25 if some player made the team on the Mets this year and every time he got an at bat and swung at the ball he lost his grip on the bat and it flew and beamed the fucking pitcher in the goddamn head every single time after about five or six of those, wouldn't people start making fun of him? It would happen after the first one,
Starting point is 03:45:46 and after the second ones, people would think something's going on. After the third one, it would be the biggest scandal in sports. But it would be hard to do that on purpose, wouldn't it? You'd have to kind of, it would have to be an accident. You couldn't nail the guy.
Starting point is 03:45:59 But nevertheless, a lot of fans would be making some fucking fun out of him, right? What about old Titus O'Neill that entered the Royal Rumble head first under the ring. He's never lived that down, but guess what? That's human nature. So you do stupid, silly, bad things,
Starting point is 03:46:16 funny-looking things, whatever people make fun of you. You get to fuck over. Oh my God, you made fun of Kenny. Well, guess what? So do his coworkers and so do his friends and so do the people that know him. And so does everybody that sees that ridiculous cult Japanese bullshit of him wrestling sex toys
Starting point is 03:46:33 and sticking his finger up other oiled men's naked assholes in the middle of a wrestling ring. We just say it. Everyone also say it on the phone. Everyone also say it in text messages. Some people will hide on message boards and say it. We say it on the air. We're honest with the audience.
Starting point is 03:46:52 Wrestling industry be damned. Don't worry, it has been. I think the wrestling industry about 30 years ago kicked the fuck out of Maria Ospinskaya and got cursed. Oh, kicked her right in a fucking face And she's a hoo-hoo
Starting point is 03:47:09 Even a man who is pure in heart And says his prayers by night We'll have to watch bad wrestling When the WWE takes over And Tony Kahn convinces his father To put in a bunch of money To fucking fund his goddamn live action figure playset It didn't rhyme as good as the original one did
Starting point is 03:47:29 But And the other one last thing I want to point out Just a little bit of the hypocrisy So many of the people who have a problem with you because of your rejection of, you know, the box, the box, Kenny, other people, whether it's them or people that someone is a fan of, these are the same people that never had a problem with you until your view diverged from theirs. Yes. And now they have a problem with you.
Starting point is 03:47:54 If you came out a few years back and you were like, you know what? The young bucks are amazing. Kenny's amazing. All of those fans would love you and all the fans that disagree with you wouldn't. They would still be there. They exist. But that's the point. There is a hypocrisy because Matt Hardy's mad at Jim Cornett,
Starting point is 03:48:12 because Jim Cornett's not going to say, Matt Hardy had a great match. By the way, he's not going to say that because he doesn't watch fucking rampage of the pre-show. But he's not going to say. Do you know what I told Matt Hardy? I think, let's, um, 2000, 16, I think, it may have been 16 probably because I was busy in 17.
Starting point is 03:48:33 I don't think I was dead. But I was in Spartanburg. one of the legends, you know, shows that the Hardee's were on, and I think that's one that Dr. Tom was on, whatever the case, anyway. Matt and Jeff were there. I think Jeff even came unannounced or whatever, but they did a thing where we were waiting to go on with those Rock and Roll Express match,
Starting point is 03:48:57 and Jeff had done some kind of thing where he became the Willow the Whisp or whatever, his alter ego, Weather the weather. Whatever. And somehow he was going to be a heel and fuck the other guy, but then come back. And I told Matt in the bathroom or the locker room, I said, Matt, were you doing some heel stuff? Well, Jeff wanted to do something. Whatever.
Starting point is 03:49:21 I told him, I said, look, you've got, between the two of y'all, you've got the business head, which I thought he did at that time. And I said, with y'all's names, this is the Carolinas. just North and South Carolina, maybe a little bit of Virginia, but up there you might get out of your, you know, your comfort zone with the region. Everybody knows you here in the states of North and South Carolina. You need to start now, start running your own shows.
Starting point is 03:49:54 You can get publicity all over the place. Establish that you run in various places in the Carolinas, six big independent shows a year where all of your friends will come and work for they won't rape you on the rates I'm not saying have them do it for free but they'll give you good deals your local and regional celebrities you can get into the newspapers the television stations
Starting point is 03:50:24 get publicity radio start working on that now and if you establish something like that. If Impact wants to come into Carolinas, you can promote their big live event because you've got the connections. You can make money as a promoter of your own shows
Starting point is 03:50:43 or helping to promote other events for other companies that want to work with you. And you can establish relationships with some of the medium-sized buildings in the Carolinas to where if they're going to have wrestling, they will call you, say, this other group wants to fucking... These are the things that people don't understand
Starting point is 03:51:02 about being in a wrestling business and running regular locations. The building will call you, hey, another wrestling promotion wants to run. You're going to give me a show next few months and I'll tell them no. Shit like that, right? And then he's got a part of the country sewed up where he doesn't have travel far from home. He can promote fan fest, autograph sessions. And you can make six figures and not fucking be away from home, but maybe 10 nights a fucking year if you want.
Starting point is 03:51:31 But instead he's getting spirit. off fucking forklifts. So, I've given up. Yeah, well, that's that. And don't call our audience toxic, all right? Keep your brother off the road, keep your wife off the internet, and don't worry about our audience.
Starting point is 03:51:47 And it's Mr. Asshole and Mr. Toxic to you. That's right. You're Mr. Toxic? I'm Mr. Toxic if you're Mr. asshole. You want to trade? How about the system of Dr. Tar and Professor Feather? That's an
Starting point is 03:52:00 overlooked Alan Parsons project, classic. Boy, I guess so. You don't remember, I'd say it was on the Tales of Mystery and Imagination album. I don't know that one, though. Oh, it's fantastic. The whole side, actually. A dream within a dream, a cask of a montalado, the system of Dr. Tarr and Professor Feather.
Starting point is 03:52:20 It's amazing. Amazing music. I'll have you know to introduce me as Trindy McTrenderson. No, no more of this Jim Cornett. Everybody knows my name. Who we want to go wherever. Everybody knows your name. Well, go to fucking Twitter.
Starting point is 03:52:35 Everybody knows my name. I'm now Trendy McTrenderson. It wouldn't stop. And folks, I appreciate your efforts on my behalf and spreading the gospel according to Corny and spreading my likeness and my image and my name around to the few people somewhere in the jungles of Cambodia who may not have heard of me.
Starting point is 03:52:59 I appreciate everybody doing that. But goddamn, I treat. I trended for and I know I didn't trend worldwide and there's a whole big continent of Asia over there that probably didn't talk about me but for the sake of the wrestling world and however they figure that on the Twitter machine
Starting point is 03:53:19 or the X or whatever the case it may be I was trending constantly for days and every time I'd try to get on Twitter and retweet some of the cult's pithy comments or tweet the fine work that we do on YouTube or here on the podcast,
Starting point is 03:53:39 it took forever to slog through everybody just battering each other about the head and face with clubs the people fir me and the people again me. Everybody's heads was on, Brian, it's got to the point where you can neither tell the truth or state your opinion
Starting point is 03:53:58 anymore without people's heads catching on fire. About things they know nothing about. How about things that they're not familiar with? And people they've never spoken to. But yet, so what's left? If I can't tell the truth, because in the words of the immortal bard,
Starting point is 03:54:19 you can't handle the truth. At least some of you out there. And if I can't give my opinions, well, then I don't know if there's a good movie, line about that. Well, then what in the world's a boy to do? The only other option is to do what everybody else is
Starting point is 03:54:39 doing in the wrestling community and the podcasting community and either well, this is two sides of the same coin, either lie or avoid. They either lie and say, oh, everybody's wonderful.
Starting point is 03:54:55 All this shit's the greatest shit we've ever smelled right up under our noses and lollies. and lollipops to all because they don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or they don't want to make anybody mad or they don't want to piss anybody off where they won't give them a job
Starting point is 03:55:10 or just avoid all the topics which makes for a kind of a boring program you know you you think about in the history of broadcasting investigative reports true stories avoiding the issue which one of those
Starting point is 03:55:29 doesn't really get over. So if I can't tell the truth and I can't state my opinions and I won't start lying or avoiding, I guess I'm just going to have to sing. I love to sing a about the moon and a tune and the spring. I love to sing about the soft wrestling fans
Starting point is 03:55:51 and the soft wrestlers they like. We'll work on that and come back to you. Please. But, and you know, It's usually I trend a lot when we just release the programs or the YouTube clips because of the massive audience that those attract and the conversation they start. But I think they were especially upset this week, Brian. Apparently somehow, I don't know, I've heard of reading comprehension being an issue facing America today. But I think listening comprehension is.
Starting point is 03:56:29 is taking hold amongst people, because everybody was saying, well, how dare he say all those things that I didn't actually say? As you were... He's horrible! He's talking about a girl!
Starting point is 03:56:44 A girl! Leave her alone! That's disrespectful, isn't it? She's a grown adult woman over the age of 18. We can't call her a girl, can we? That's the way the people react. It's crazy. Well, but, and folks, so, you know,
Starting point is 03:56:58 we're talking about Megan over at AEW, the head of legal. Well, Megan is her name, not Megan. That's what I said, Megan. And what we were discussing was the impropriety, it would seem, the conflict of interest potentially that one would think would arise when the head of the legal department and the person who's been described as the number two in the company of publicly by Tony Kahn in the past that was a part
Starting point is 03:57:32 of the group who stormed into CM Punk's locker room back last September and when that whole thing went down now she wasn't leading the charge she wasn't the first one in the door but she was on the scene and
Starting point is 03:57:48 bringing up the rear that's pretty much been established as she was right there in the picture and then she has continued over the last year we've heard that she was involved in still in contract, not necessarily in negotiation, but preparing contracts in her legal duties for people that were involved in that situation. That seems like a conflict on either side.
Starting point is 03:58:16 And we'd also heard that, you know, maybe all these investigations that have been done, maybe they weren't completely independent. Maybe they were still under the eight. I.E.W. Khan Empire umbrella. I mentioned that also that, you know, since obviously she's close to the Bucks, maybe that was a conflict when she was dealing with things involving C.M. Punk. I said she's close friends with the Bucks. I said not as close as she is with some of the boys. And my goodness gracious, that wasn't peepicking good for a lot of people.
Starting point is 03:58:56 How dare you? You're a sloth. What's shaming, Megan? Oh, my God. I had people saying that I said in so many words that she had slept with every member of the locker room. You're going to get sued. Watch out, Cornynett. We're going to get sued for me. She's the head of legal.
Starting point is 03:59:16 She'll sue. As a matter of fact, somebody tweeted that. He said that she slept with all the members of locker room. And I retweeted that back. I said, I never once said all. and I don't know where these people and in their perverted minds their deviant behavior
Starting point is 03:59:35 and their real lives is coming out and they're projecting and they just think that apparently either they know something I don't maybe because they went so far with these accusations like they were trying to defend her but they said that she'd pretty much done everything except the USC football team
Starting point is 03:59:53 and I never said anything like that. because Brian, you know, I've got to admit one thing. Whether we like the wrestling or not or Tony's booking or not, you can't tell me that there's a more professionally run pro wrestling promotion in the world than AEW when it comes to TALA relations and lack of impropriety in TALA relations, making sure everything's done according to Hoyle as they say
Starting point is 04:00:26 and that there's no improprieties amongst the members of the roster or amongst the roster and office people, that would have to be a pretty shoddly run company to allow something like that going on. Imagine the number two in the company having improper and or intimate relations with members of the wrestling roster
Starting point is 04:00:52 and the number two in the company having inappropriate relations with younger members of the wrestling roster, younger than they are when they have power and control over their contracts or legal issues, and the number two in the company actually carrying on in a manner like that with people on the roster that are beneath them and under them and subject to their wills? Well, that sounds possible.
Starting point is 04:01:22 positively Laurenitis-ish. That could certainly never go on in a company that values its smooth talent relations and its complete professionalism backstage in every way office and roster like AEW. It could never go on, could it? I don't think so because I think of something like that happened in AEW. If there was executive male or female who has had sexual relations with, one or more members of the roster who were all younger and an unequal position like you laid out there before, I think it would be reported to HR.
Starting point is 04:02:04 Who runs HR over there? The legal department? I think Mega runs HR. Well, there you go. Well, she'd keep a good eye out. She would keep a good eye out for those whistleblowers and that information because she'd want to know first thing. but anyway otherwise than that
Starting point is 04:02:21 I appreciate everybody helping spread the gospel of Cornett around the world as you have by making me the center of attention but give somebody else a chance I'm trying to be humble and I don't want to be greedy so one or two days this week go ahead and talk about somebody else just for a change make it different
Starting point is 04:02:41 and I'll sit back and pet Harley and enjoy being out of the spotlight for a day or two before somebody else does something stupid. It's like a fucking traveling high school, AEW. You know that rock and roll high school, maybe they could do that instead of, well, maybe they could do that instead of calling it a wrestling program or having live wrestling shows,
Starting point is 04:03:06 they could say, look, rock and roll high school, only the fight scenes. Have you seen rock and roll high school? No, I just remember the title, but it sounds like fucking AEW. No, it's about Riff Randall, a big fan of the Ramones, and she gets to go see them, and Darby crashes in the crowd, and the Ramones play a great set, and if you read the book, Please Kill Me, D.D. Ramon couldn't remember his one line, hey pizza, it's great, dig in.
Starting point is 04:03:28 And then the Ramones blow up the high school. All these pretzels are making me thirsty. All right, Dr. Van Nostron, if you'd like to move on, we can keep going. Anyway, but anyway, so in the middle of this wonderful day, where I didn't have to do anything out in the public eye, trying to just be a senior citizen here enjoying my golden years, low-profile family day. You're not a senior citizen yet. I'm senior to you, aren't I?
Starting point is 04:03:58 Yes. Well, and I'm a senior citizen. And you call me on the phone. And I knew we weren't supposed to record that day. And when I said, hello, you said, how are you? in a tone of voice of like, I've heard about the accident. And I said, well, how am I supposed to be?
Starting point is 04:04:20 What is, what's the issue here? And you, well, you're trending. And I said, well, what did I, well, how am I trending? And that's when you informed me that you had been deluged by messages. How do you people that are on the internet most of the day get message? Do they direct message you? or Insta face you or... I'm pretty hard to get to.
Starting point is 04:04:47 If someone tries... If someone thinks they're direct messaging me and I don't reply, you're probably not direct messaging me. I'm never going to see it. But you had, you had messages coming in from people in the inner circle. I had people tagging me and shit. And you had people tagging you and things.
Starting point is 04:05:02 And emailing the drive-through email and it was annoying. Yes. It was, it was basically drawing you away from your editing work to ask you, is it true? Is it true? Can you make it happen? That's my favorite. Can you make it happen? I'm going to pick you up and drive you. But anyway, go ahead. Well, but they don't know what it is yet, but what it apparently was was Jeff Jarrett on, apparently he does a podcast these days. and he was inviting me to the AEW television spectacular that they held inside under cover of darkness
Starting point is 04:05:47 inside the Yom Center, or at least part of it, in downtown Louisville, Kentucky last night as we speak. We were talking of this on Tuesdays when this story broke. And to be perfectly honest, yes, Yes, the words did come out of his mouth. He was asked if he might stop by and pick up his old friend James E. Cornett and take him down there. And Jeff replied, both honestly and with a bit of an ulterior motive, yes, I'd love to have Jim there. And I'm sure he would.
Starting point is 04:06:25 And I'm not yelling at Jeff right now. He gave a truthful answer. I'd love to sit down somewhere not involving AEW or really any other professional wrestling and just have a conversation with Jeff sometime. But he said, yeah, I'd love to have him. And I bet he would. He would probably enjoy having me and Dutch Mantel sit next to him while he's in that building instead of the plethora of buffoonery that he's got right now surrounding him.
Starting point is 04:06:55 but he said that and then apparently the the wrestling media all the copy and paste news sites picked it up like it was not only a legitimate offer of come down to AEW and appear in my group
Starting point is 04:07:19 but that there was any chance of it happening to begin with and there was speculation like, well, Jeff Jared is invited like it was an announcement from the fucking promotion on some of these sites. Jeff Jared has invited Jim Cornett to come to AEW. Will it happen in Louisville?
Starting point is 04:07:40 And which Jeff bless him his little pepick and heart because he's a third generation promoter was smart enough to know that if anybody was for the people who like that kind of thing, that's kind of thing those people like AEW, and they are some of the easiest to work and the most gullible
Starting point is 04:08:04 of the rasslin followers. And he's smart enough to know that, well, that may get some talk because they had, they put him on the last minute publicity push for this Yom Center debacle that they did. he was interviewed on Spectrum News 1. That's the, if you in Louisville, Kentucky, don't get your news, your television news from any of the network affiliate stations, Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, the local stations with the professional news teams and programs and various, you know, offshoots, hours per day.
Starting point is 04:08:53 You can sit there and watch the people who weren't good enough to get a job on those news teams. Do the local news on the fucking cable Barker channel. And Jeff was interviewed there because they sent him up because he might be the one person on their roster that still means something in fucking Louisville. And they sent big show to OVW to push the two for one deal. So that's what it would. Jeff figured, yes, I'd like to have him there because that, was an honest answer. And as I mentioned, I'd like to visit with Jeff just not there.
Starting point is 04:09:33 And also, he knew that maybe it would drum up some fucking last minute ticket sales because of the fiasco that they had in a 23,000 seat building, which we'll talk more about in a second. But we actually had to issue statements that I know I'm not going to fucking be there. people's heads were on fire one way or the other, either for it or again it. And because they couldn't get to me, they were belaboring you. Well, let me also say, although not known and we're not going to talk too much about it, this came on the heels of a couple of bizarre inquiries from AEW about Jim attending.
Starting point is 04:10:19 And we can't go into too much detail because it's off the record. and uh... Well, one of them is the other one I just don't want to talk about but they were weird inquiries about getting you there and then all of a sudden Or trying to get me to sniff around about going
Starting point is 04:10:34 It was, it was bizarre It was really, really bizarre But on top of that then all of a sudden it's everyone saying What do you say? Is Jim gonna go? That's what I said before Do something, you gotta do something
Starting point is 04:10:46 What do you want me to do? Pick them up and go there By the way, I'd be dropping them off because I ain't staying. Yeah. And the back gate of the yub said, all right, I'll see you later, Jim. And that's the thing is that, again, people in, and I'm not talking about a quality, you know, news site like fucking, well, I guess, are the Sports Illustrator or something like that quality anymore? But I'm talking about the, you know, the off-brand websites, they're running with it like it's a fucking legitimate thing.
Starting point is 04:11:20 and the reason why that you called me when I got on Twitter for a second to see what in the world this was about because I was trending while I'm trying to cook fucking crab cakes I get on there I see half the people again the AEW clowns
Starting point is 04:11:36 their heads are on five well I will never watch them again if Jim Cornett shows up there and our listeners are like yeah God can you imagine if he got them cut the promo on whatever and they're all happy about it and so to
Starting point is 04:11:49 try to get people to leave you alone, and so you'd leave me alone, not go back to my crab cakes. I tweeted that I appreciated Jeff Jarrett's invitation to the AEW TV taping here in Louisville, and I've tried to make it work, but unfortunately, I couldn't find anybody else in town going to split to two for one, take a deal with. But maybe, you know, they can come up with another ratings ploy by Showtime. And then I trended for another day because the goddamn, again, the people who suck at the teat of parody of wrestling
Starting point is 04:12:28 that is Tony Kahn and his ensemble of wacky characters, their heads were on fire again and their goddamn asses were blowing hot air and lava. And they despised the fact that legitimately if I did show up on that program, at least for a week or two, maybe the first time and last time would be the same.
Starting point is 04:12:52 Somebody would fucking watch it. And then our regular listeners, the majority of folks who have cognitive ability and the power of reason were once again entertained by their fucking, it was sad.
Starting point is 04:13:13 I heard from a little bird, and I do live in this town, that they had people standing outside the Yom Center because it's downtown. When people are leaving office buildings or closing up for the day or whatever, they're walking down these streets, it's almost at the fucking river,
Starting point is 04:13:30 the big bridge. And they're trying to give away tickets and the people wouldn't take them. They're like, no, wrestling? No, no, I'm good, I'm good. And the email was going around about seat fill. You saw that, right? Boy, apparently they didn't show up either.
Starting point is 04:13:51 Because they should have, you know, what about the blow-up fucking pilot from the movie airplane? They should have just had a bunch of those in the seats and hit the fucking the tank and blow them all up at the same time. That's a great idea, an inflatable audience. Anytime someone goes in a bathroom, something just pops up from the seat to sit there? Yeah, and if they had an inflatable audience, then, fucking Kenny could wrestle half of them. But they're getting back to this
Starting point is 04:14:21 fucking thing. So after I finished trending, because everybody was upset about a tongue and cheek invitation to a fucking show that nobody was going to to begin with that I was never going to accept in a million years and people
Starting point is 04:14:37 let it ruin their goddamn days. Those AEW they're still pissed off about it. Oh my God. They hate me. like crotch rot. But they ended up putting
Starting point is 04:14:51 under fourth, and we're going to talk about the difference in tickets distributed and tickets sold. They put under 4,000 people in a 23,000 seat building with a last minute local market push of advertising the best they could do, two for one, people on the street
Starting point is 04:15:12 handing out free tickets, and I saw the map from who is it, Russell Ticks does these type of things. Yeah, yeah. And everybody's retweetin it because they had literally opened up, it looks like if you cut up an apple pie into eight pieces
Starting point is 04:15:28 and then took six of those pieces away and somebody still couldn't eat what was left, that's what the part of the building that was opened up. And they said that, I know they did a last minute media push around town here, but on spectrum cable news. But they said the last day they sold 300 and something tickets.
Starting point is 04:15:56 Or no, I'm sorry, the last day it was plus 300 something tickets distributed. And they've been the last, because there were 2,600 or so about a little less than a week out, according to the same source. And then they ended up with 36, 36, 3,000. 800, whatever it was. Now, I'm sorry, but I know we've gone crazy about the Wembley statistics and the verbiage and how it was presented and everything, and that's much more important than this.
Starting point is 04:16:29 But for the sake of it, just because they distributed those tickets over this last week, does that mean they sold them? Or when we were running the Knoxville Civic Coliseum in 30 years ago, and it was all at the time, all the ticket master buildings. You couldn't just distribute all the tickets that you wanted. It still was computerized, which it is now. And they charged us, 25 cents piece, for every comp ticket that we had printed because it had to come out of the Ticketmaster computers.
Starting point is 04:17:06 So our comp tickets actually cost us a quarter. So we didn't print any more than necessary. but that's the thing is that still was in the tickets distributed count we would get a count from the building tickets sold and tickets distributed the free ticket that was two different numbers you see where I'm going with this Brian am I for the layman am I describing this right
Starting point is 04:17:34 there's how many a ship and there's how many you sell right and and so are we getting zoomed on the tickets distributed on all of the towns just because we know that this particular fiasco was again
Starting point is 04:17:54 if you as a promoter give 100 tickets to charity that's tickets distributed, correct? Well, they have to come out of the computerized system right? It's not like I'm just I'm not copying them on my home copier and handing them out
Starting point is 04:18:08 say just show this at the door and they'll let you in. It's tickets to the event. So radio station tickets distributed tickets Yeah so my question is on all of the towns that they're running Whether good or not good attendance We're getting the tickets distributed number
Starting point is 04:18:29 But that don't mean they're selling All of those or even the most of those So they couldn't even With giving shit away Put 4,000 people in a 23,000 seat building, which begs the question, why are they running a 23,000 seat building? And boy, and we're not even going to talk about it today, we'll save that for the experience because we have actual newsworthy things, but after the program that they gave the live audience,
Starting point is 04:19:04 much less the TV viewer, from Louisville, emanating, seeping from Louisville, Kentucky, who would ever want to fucking pay to see that again? Well, that was AEW in Louisville. We'll see when they come back. I won't. I'm going to make a blanket. Refuse or no matter who invites me that next time, I will not be there.
Starting point is 04:19:36 Does AEW have any hot markets right now in the United States? Is Chicago still going to be a hot market beyond punk? Even if punk was there and everything else was. happening on that show that's happening, the crowds, I think, would still be down. Do they have a hot market still? Well, no, because now the people that wanted to see it have seen it and the most dedicated have seen it numerous times and it's getting worse with, they're losing people that the fans cared about and not replacing them, except in the case of Adam Copeland, with people
Starting point is 04:20:15 that they care about. and they're doing the same old shit, only worse. So why do you continue to, I mean, do we think that MJF versus Jay White has the cashé in the industry, as they say, that MJF versus Danielson
Starting point is 04:20:31 in the 60-minute match or MJF and punk and dog, whatever that had? No, what? Hello, McFly! And nothing else is attractive. And they've got this weird thing they're doing now where
Starting point is 04:20:50 MJF is unfortunately the center of everything because he's the only guy that they can count on to deliver a performance of whatever description, but they're all dragging him down because he's playing with children. And so they've cooled off quick. It's happening in front of our eyes.
Starting point is 04:21:16 One of the things happening in wrestling right now You were trending once again, Mr. Trendy. Apparently, and I saw some of this, you got into a fight online or a fight was started online, you jumped into it. I'm not exactly sure, but you and the artist formerly known as Top Dala, A.J. Francis. My friend Flopper. Remember my friend Flicka? Yes. It was a horse.
Starting point is 04:21:41 Wow, I do remember that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, my friend Flopper, he's, you got your surfing turf. you got the horse and the marine life. And there wasn't really a fight because I tweeted him twice and then retweeted a couple of immediate comments that I saw that tickled me about what I tweeted him and then went about my business again and if I trended for a day and a half. But basically, I wish I could actually, and you might be able to because what happened was
Starting point is 04:22:16 he, in short version, before we get into granular detail, he tweeted about me without mentioning my name or tagging me, as the kids say, but slandering me nonetheless. And then when I saw it because somebody sent it to me, obviously don't follow the feller, then I responded to him, and then apparently he blocked me and kept responding to me. But I wasn't sitting here anyway watching it, so I don't know exactly what he said from there.
Starting point is 04:22:51 But he didn't come out very good in the exchange from what I was able to see. What are the kids, the kids call it ratioing? I believe so, yes. More people were again him than for him on this thing. Now, there were some people that were for him. The entire bunch of numbers family, everybody in the bunch of numbers family came out. and there was a bunch of people that I don't know you can tell maybe have never seen wrestling before and there's like a hundred and seven people around the world that like him as an alleged rapper
Starting point is 04:23:27 they were on his side but but anyway what instigated it was and that's why I say I'm going to have to paraphrase because since he's blocked me I can't see any of the things I'm blocked too I couldn't see a lot of it also. I can't see any of the things he's saying about me anymore. And by the way, I block people who become nuisances who say smart-ass things to me or reveal themselves as Republicans. I block them. But they're basically unknown and or interchangeable random people around the world on Twitter,
Starting point is 04:24:02 possibly not even real. If somebody is real, I don't block them if I believe that I'm going to have occasion to tell them how to modify their behavior again because I want them to see it, right? It's only when I'm done with them and they're dismissed that I block them. Apparently, he just, he jumps on the block and then keeps running his pie hole. But nevertheless, what he did was there was some girl that was, that had tweed not, huh? Some girl, Billy Eilish, he's one of the biggest musical stars in the world right now. One of the biggest musicians in the world, I should say.
Starting point is 04:24:41 Okay, I was not aware of this. I was, you know, I saw her picture there and she had tweeted not to him. Apparently it isn't not a conversation to him. She had tweeted about being body shamed and how it affected her or whatever, never that I didn't get into that. It was how it doesn't happen to men. It doesn't happen to men. Okay, so, and what's her name again? Billy Eilish.
Starting point is 04:25:08 She's a big name. music star. Major star, yeah. Well, there you go. So apparently he follows her. Is, you know, what genre of music? Is she in the rap genre also? Well, no, he didn't retweet her. He retweeted another Twitter account's quote from her with a picture of her, but it wasn't actually her who tweeted it out. Oh, good Lord. So is it her sentiment? And then somebody else retweeted it And then he jumped in, totally unsolicited, to say, oh, golly, I've been body shamed. But what, the way he said it was, hey, a documented racist called me fat and a whale and a manatee. It can happen to men.
Starting point is 04:26:05 Oh, no, I'm sorry. And nobody bad at an eye. and nobody batted an eye but he also had it a 60 year old documented races call me a fat and a whale and a manatee and it can happen to men and nobody batted an eye
Starting point is 04:26:18 so here is this I assume young girl oh Billy oh yeah she's like in a early 20s I think and she's talking about being body shamed and it doesn't happen to men well probably in her industry
Starting point is 04:26:33 and in her age group that is a a topic that's going on. I don't particularly care if anybody body shames me now. I'm fucking 60. Actually, I'm in better shape than I ever have been, but I'm not going to fucking
Starting point is 04:26:49 have any goddamn surgery or do anything about it. So they can say whatever they like. But nevertheless, this fucking 40-year-old supposed grown adult, supposed man, supposed ex-football players, supposed, underline supposed pro wrestler is on there commenting on
Starting point is 04:27:11 young women's goddamn problems like he's a victim of this too. Oh, a guy called me fat and a whale and a manatee. Like he's commiserating with them. Well, he quickly turned it though if you saw that tweet because then he wrote, because when I
Starting point is 04:27:32 see him in person and care of that business myself, don't start acting like I'm the bad guy with a couple of emojis, a smiley face, and an angel emoji. And somewhere water comes out of their eyes or something. I don't know. No, there's a halo and then a big puffy red cheeks. Oh, he's got puffy red cheeks. But nevertheless, so yes, so he uses this opportunity to slander me to cry about the names
Starting point is 04:28:03 that I called him and then to tell people that if he whenever he sees me he's going to take care of that business he goes from fucking pippy longstocking to fucking Shug Knight in the same tweet
Starting point is 04:28:18 so that should be his rapper name Shug Longstocking Shug Longstocking and we're gonna we're gonna dissect a couple of things about this but first of all that just didn't set well with me. It kind of ticked me off, that I'm being slandered,
Starting point is 04:28:38 and that he's a whiny little bitch, and that he's threatening me. All in the same tweet. And he didn't tag you or anything, but as soon as he wrote the word manatee, it was obvious who he was talking about. Because some people, some people said,
Starting point is 04:28:53 hey, he could have been talking about Michael Cole. No, okay, Michael Cole very well might have called him a whale. But God damn it, if I'm giving up the trademark on manatee, I'm the one who said he looked like a manatee wearing basketball shorts, and I'm protecting that fucking original fucking intellectual property. That's right. You said it.
Starting point is 04:29:12 Travis drew it. So it's ours. It's ours, baby. And then there are the other people go, well, so you didn't, you, you didn't fucking have an issue with him saying you were a racist? No, that's part of it. As a matter of fact, my first fucking tweet to him was, I'm 62 flopper.
Starting point is 04:29:32 get your facts straight. How can having an aversion to marine life that tries to wrestle be termed racist? I don't think whales and manatees are all bad, just the lousy workers. If you're swimming as half as bad as you're wrestling, you could be huge at SeaWorld. Huge in caps.
Starting point is 04:29:51 Huge. Huge. Huge. But anyway, so then that was where I quote tweeted his little fucking piece and showed everybody. Now you can't see it
Starting point is 04:30:06 on my thing because he blocked me by the way, the dickless little pussy. I'm sorry, I shouldn't call him little. But then I also that was the quote tweet, but then I just replied to him directly because I thought when you reply to somebody directly
Starting point is 04:30:23 then it was just you know, you're replying to them, right? But apparently a lot of people saw that too. And they like that too. And I said to him personally, by the way, just between you and me,
Starting point is 04:30:41 flopper, run your pie hole all you want about what you do because we all know you'll never meet. And if we did, you'd do nothing and like it because you're not a gang banger, you're a fat Uncle Phil. Blow me. And that was, I figured at that point, I had told him all I needed to tell him. And I fucking, as I
Starting point is 04:31:02 retweeted a couple of other things, and people tweeted up real quick, and then I went about my business. And apparently, again, the Twitterverse went out of their minds. And people say, well, you didn't deny that you're a racist.
Starting point is 04:31:18 Well, no, if he'd have said, hey, donkey fucker, I wouldn't have bothered to lead with, hey, I've never fucked a donkey. Let me explain something to you, flopper. Fuck you, first of all. Now that we've got that out of the way, I'll go into more detail. I'm not going to let some fucking nobody, a failure in the industry,
Starting point is 04:31:43 a middle-aged fucking delusional knit width that thinks he is somehow a celebrity and a superstar despite having displayed absolutely zero talent at one of his chosen professions. I don't know how you were at football, because I don't watch football. But apparently if you were any good at football, we'd have fucking heard of you. You didn't do very good in the opening season of the reality show hosting because you came off as an obnoxious asshole trying to bully people out of their collectibles, and then you debut in such spectacular fashion as a professional wrestler that in your own company not only fires you the first time,
Starting point is 04:32:32 but then as I remember Brian for having a bad fucking attitude and going in and telling the office the way things were going to be when they fired the girl out of the group and then they said well fine how about all of you fucking go and then he got a second chance and within what a month they were telling the announcers to make fun of him on the air And then... Which they have a long history of doing to guys they have no respect for. Exactly. And people that piss them off. And people that they think are fucking idiots. And people that they are soon to release, which they did again after a stretch where they wouldn't even let him get in the ring and a tag team matches because he'd
Starting point is 04:33:21 fuck things up. So Flopper, I called you those names. because that's what we see. And that's what we were talking about. I haven't gone on a personal crusade against you like I have against, oh, Mr. Schittstein, because you're not that important to me. And we only mentioned you whenever you were actually disgracing
Starting point is 04:33:45 the television screen. Otherwise, there was no reason for me to make you one of my pet projects. That may have ended. But since you are so affidavisement, offended because you're not a 40-year-old adult fucking grown man, a gangster, which we'll get to at a second, you're goddamn soft and you're delusional about your standing in the community. And you think that you can either joust with me verbally not only because of the difference in our verbal capacity, but also because let me tell you something, flopper, I spent more time
Starting point is 04:34:22 sitting on Vince McMahon's toilet at his house in Greenwich than you spent working for. him. So this is not a goddamn fair fight. And I'm just now doing it because you ran your fucking dicklicker. So a lot of people, oh, you're so racist and you're homophobic and you're this and you're that because I called him a gangster. Brian, you're the, um, well, you said, gang, gangbanger. Or a gangbanger. You weren't a gangbanger, right? Your uncle Phil. Because he He's threatening me with physical violence. He thinks he's Shug Knight. That's what people, but as we said,
Starting point is 04:35:05 looks more like Shug Longstocking when we look at him on television. But, Brian, you're the music industry insider. So is his whole television persona not meant to be a play on the gangster rap that the kids used to listen to? Well, he was certainly flashing signs. and trying to... Well, no, hit row? Isn't it death row? Isn't it Shug Knight?
Starting point is 04:35:34 Isn't it fucking... The gangster rap genre? Isn't it the gang signs and whatever the fuck they're dressing in? Well, part of it is you don't know anything about rap, and I think that's...
Starting point is 04:35:45 Well, of course not. Yeah, so you don't know what's gangster rap versus rap. I wouldn't call what they were trying to do gangster rap. I barely want to call it rap. I wouldn't go on gangster rap. But certainly he was presenting
Starting point is 04:35:57 a certain image. And also... And he's fake! Also, he should have seen the writing on the wall when Swerve didn't come back. Because Swerve was the entire act. And nothing... There's nothing you said on the show that people in the locker room he sat in didn't say. There's nothing you have said on the show...
Starting point is 04:36:17 They were listening to it. That the commentators didn't say. I mean... Except Manatee. He's mad at you. Because you publicly said what everyone in that locker room, no one wanted him there. And he didn't make a good impression. And now he doesn't have a job in wrestling.
Starting point is 04:36:31 And I don't know. I said that AEW should hire him because I did find joy out of how bad he was. And I could have watched more of that. We did enjoy watching the awkwardness of his movements and how he looked like a disconnected bucket of body parts flummoxing across the ring. And we pointed that out. But I don't believe we were any harsher on him than we have on anybody else that's really, really, really bad, not good. No. But he was offended.
Starting point is 04:36:59 Because you body shamed them. Because I body shamed. Actually, Mother Nature beat me to it. By the way, enough of wrestlers crying about being body shamed. If you don't want to be body shamed, put on your fucking shirt and go get an office job.
Starting point is 04:37:14 Body shamed. You can't say a guy who was in shape got fat. You're body shaming them. You can't say a guy who's a big fat fucking whale is a manatee. You're body shaming them.
Starting point is 04:37:24 Then don't be a wrestler. Then don't be on camera Don't be a bikini model, hopper. What the fuck? It's not even just him, though. There's others, you're not about to say anything about wrestlers unless it's a positive thing. If you're saying anything else, it's not even that like you don't know anything or you're just a negative person. You're just horrible as a human being because how dare you say anything about the bikini model, like you said.
Starting point is 04:37:49 It's so stupid. Well, I don't know. I'm not even going to debate the goddamn issue with you, but I'm not going to listen to it from him. Well, that's true. That's true. He's not the goddamn, he's not. the poster boy for this to take the standard bearer for, oh, don't say mean things about me. He's supposed to be this big tough guy, and he's threatening me.
Starting point is 04:38:10 He said he's going to take care of that business, which I assume is me, whenever he sees me, and I believe he said before he blocked me, and I will see, where are you going to see me? I don't know where you live, but I'm pretty sure I don't plan to come there. And do you, are you going to show up as part of the gardening crew? or are you going to join the Monroe brothers and come work on my Creek Stone? Are you going to start shopping at the goddamn local grocery store here? Where are we going to cross paths in our social circle, fat ass? Don't you think you would see him when he tries to hop the fence and he falls on his face?
Starting point is 04:38:43 Yes. Because it's lower than the goddamn rope that he couldn't get over. And again, we're not going to meet each other because, no, because why would we? because I have no interaction with you nor you me. You were doing what Butch Reed used to say in the locker room was selling wolf tickets. Your promo in a fight that ain't going to happen and talking about what you're going to do that you ain't going to do. I didn't say I was going to come find him and take care of his business because I'm not, because I don't care about him enough to leave my house and leave the county.
Starting point is 04:39:17 but to say to to i've stirred him up so bad that he had to again comment on this poor girl's post about being body shame that he's a goddamn supposed adult and not even related to this conversation and he's got to jump in to be a victim and then threaten me that he's going to beat me up for doing it on Twitter so everybody will think he's going to beat me up when in actuality he ain't going to beat me up when in actuality he's going to to beat me up and you know what flopper if you did come to the goddamn house and knock on the door and beat me up then we'll just check your fucking bank account did you save your goddamn football money because you didn't make much in wrestling he didn't make that much in football either well then maybe he will be working on the goddamn leaves and the creek stone around here to pay off the judgment for what he's not going to do and he's running his fucking yapper about it I never ever said I was going to beat you up, Flopper, because I'm not. But I did say that you're a fat fucking whale manatee because you are.
Starting point is 04:40:25 And you're a joke. And you're pathetic. And nobody liked you. And they want you to go away. I'm talking about the fans and the other wrestlers. The ones that asked not to even be in the ring with you because you would fuck up whatever you were doing if they were beating you up. Good Lord.
Starting point is 04:40:45 Yeah, Jim won't beat you up. However, if a strange man hits you over to head with a club and says the words John Pantosy says hello. Yeah. It's not us. That's a code. Do you know how badass Pantosie was? Tell you what, he was nobody to be fucked with. That time they tried to knock over the U.S. Mint, he slapped him around single-handedly.
Starting point is 04:41:05 I mean, that was when we were first introduced to him when he was the host of that hidden treasure show, whatever it is, where they knew where things were, and then they sent him there to low-ball offer collectors. so that this billion-dollar company could just add the stuff to their warehouse. And he was their conduit. Remember, was he not the one that made little Nage Charles Robinson cry? That's right. Over the conflict of whether to give up that robe. Oh, God. But anyway, so the point is, Flopper, if you keep your pye hole shut and go about your business,
Starting point is 04:41:39 we're done because I don't really care. but if you continue to run your ever-loving yap about people that are more famous and more equipped to answer back than you, then this can go on and on. Otherwise, we're done here. You're dismissed. And if I need you, I will send for you. Thank you very much. All right.
Starting point is 04:42:08 And that was the top dollar portion of the show. Or I don't even know if... What's his name now? Whatever he calls himself now. AJ. Who's going to book him? No, you know what? They'll bring him in into AEW as AJ smiles and see if they can get away with it like Jack Pfeffer.
Starting point is 04:42:32 That's actually a good idea. I like that. But let's move on from Top Dollar or Flop Dollar, whatever the hell his name is. Just my friend Flop. We've traveled again because we're pumping his content out, baby, so quick that the Nielsen people couldn't keep up with us. We had to take a break to close the show with the big ratings extravaganza because of the holiday weekend. Everything's been delayed. And now we have the ratings for last week's dynamite episode that was more like nitroglycerin in that it was very volatile and blew up when they didn't expect it.
Starting point is 04:43:12 But, Brian, you want to talk about some ratings? I want to talk about some ratings. I want to talk about some viewers. You remember when I, I drew the very clear and concise picture, the timeline and everything to where I proved that not only did O.J. Simpson and Vince Stone Cold Steve Austin, but he owes me $5,000. You remember that. I remember he cost you that house in Knoxville that night.
Starting point is 04:43:40 I don't remember. Well, and then I, I, I, I, Appellated on from there that because then Jake the Snake no-showed me because he got a shitty payoff and his wife got mad about it because OJ Simpson was on the car chase when he was defending the Smoggy Mountain title in Knoxville and we didn't draw and as a result Jake was gone and therefore he would not have done what he did and when he came back in the WWF he wouldn't have cut to promo and blah blah blah and there would have been no stone cold Steve Austin but I've got another one now I got another one now I got another one now, CM Punk is the Beatles and I am Ringo Star. Let me know how you set this one. I know the Beatles. I love the Beatles. I want to hear how you set this one up.
Starting point is 04:44:27 Because apparently this is a big deal to the kids these days. You know, they're the YouTubers and these influencers and these and effluviers and various people that live their lives to get on to you. You know, the old spooky spooky boy up in Canada. He lived his life to get on
Starting point is 04:44:46 YouTube and and bleed. And bleed. And have subscribers. And take your blood. Just blood everywhere. But the thing is, all these people, they're trying.
Starting point is 04:45:00 They're trying. And that's the problem because you got to just be, you got to just be the Beatles. And CM Punk is the Beatles. Because this is a big deal to the kids, like I said. Right now as we sit here recording this, on YouTube
Starting point is 04:45:14 not wrestling YouTube or a subcategory of you but on the fucking YouTube this is how over CM Punk is ladies and gentlemen the number one trending video on YouTube is CM Punk is back on the WWE YouTube channel
Starting point is 04:45:36 with almost 5 million views on this two minutes alone CM Punk is back, see the epic return, blah, blah, blah. That's the number one trending video on YouTube, courtesy of the WWE, a billion dollar corporation. Now number two, number two is apparently, and I guess trending, it's the pace that you're at right now. It's not the total views, but it's like the, apparently the pace,
Starting point is 04:46:09 because this number two has 24 million views, but it's slowing down. Apparently a girl group called Baby Monster performing something called Batter Up. It does have a couple of lyrics here. I'm on a mission, don't need permission, no matter what, I'm going to make my own decision. I'm talking you, you want it too.
Starting point is 04:46:36 Is it written by Enzel? So that's from, Baby Monster and then number three trending video on YouTube one is from the WWE a multi-billion dollar company number two is Baby Monster and they got a check mark next to them and apparently
Starting point is 04:46:55 somebody's dressed them up so they probably got a record label behind them and number three trending video on YouTube right now Jim Cornett on CM Punk returning to WW at Survivor Series. No, it's not. Get out of you. Go to YouTube right now and look at the click on the goddamn deal.
Starting point is 04:47:15 I'm not talking about our YouTube page. I'm talking about the trending thing on the whole YouTube. Number one, number two, and number three. And obviously, we are neither a multi-billion dollar corporation nor a major record company. We got the number three trending video
Starting point is 04:47:33 on YouTube, which is an audio clip with Travis heckles thumbnail. And we're kicking a shit out of Hammer Jam, upgrade uproar, which is apparently number four. What the hell is that?
Starting point is 04:47:49 I don't fucking know. Hammer Jam? The Clash of Klan's animation. And then number five is Benevides versus Andrade. That's not our Andrade. That's a showtime boxing. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:48:05 But CM Punk is so over. and so hot that we get the number three trending video on YouTube with an audio clip talking about what he fucking did. I got to see where my trending thing is. I think a lot of it's dependent on what you watch. Right now I have just my recommendations of chiropractors, Paul Revere and the Raiders. We're having people comment and tweet at me. That's why I brought this up to you.
Starting point is 04:48:31 No, say it. Hey, we were trending number four and then we were trending number three. We could trend number two. Hey, watch out, baby monster. Fuck, you will. Kick you right in a uterus. Speak for yourself. Well, it, right in your uterus.
Starting point is 04:48:47 How many members are there? How many members are there? One, two, three, four, five, six of them. Just you and me, well. You're going to go for all the other eye? No, maybe we'll talk to them about this. See, we can call them squash this beef. There's six of them.
Starting point is 04:49:02 This beef that you started. Well, fuck, who are they getting in the middle of? of me and punk on trending. Nobody asked them to show up. Hold on now. Now, wait a minute. Let's go back to what you started with. We somehow went right past this. I could understand the punk to Beatles comparison. Maybe not the one I would use. Well, one, two, three, four, five on the top 40 charts. I was kind of going that way. Right. Punk's a big star. How do you get the Euringo? Where did that come from? Well, because he was the least important member. I was, but I do have a part to play in this number three somehow.
Starting point is 04:49:40 Does that make Tony Kahn Pete best? You know, that makes Dony Kahn Pete worst. It makes Tony Kahn want to tear his hair out because the television program that Punk would have been on had Tony Kahn not lost his mind and fired him instead of Jack Perry for being a smart ass, would have been getting too,
Starting point is 04:50:07 not even as many views on network cable on TBS as we've gotten for this audio clip talking about him appearing on a Survivor series. We're up to 300,000 pretty much already on that clip. The TV program that they spend a lot of money to produce would not have had that many viewers if Jack Perry had not been a smart ass and Tony Kahn was not Dickless Pete.
Starting point is 04:50:34 Holy shit, I just pulled it up. You're right. Here's baby monster and here's Hammer Jam and we're right in between... Well, God, there you go. The baby and the hammer. We're in between the baby and the hammer. Between a rock and a hard place. Please, hammer don't hurt a baby. Stop. Stop. Stop what? Hammertown. Oh, God damn it. Anyway... It's twice. I've got you. You keep doing that to me. Anyway, I was trended again, was where you were going with that, and I started, and we took a side track. But I believe it was yesterday, yesterday afternoon. You know, we were trying to have, we're easing into the holidays here at the castle, and Stace and Harley and myself, and trying to have a relaxing afternoon, just anticipating with bated breath the opportunity to do the last show with you of the year. and I've pitched the idea.
Starting point is 04:51:35 I said, well, let's get some Freddie's steak burgers delivered. And as soon as she picks her phone up, she says, why are you trending? Because I've said nothing. I've done nothing. I've retweeted a few of the clips. I don't know what I, you know, what I may have done to inflame people. And come to find out that people were not even inflamed. they were inflamed about the concept of me and who else might appreciate the concept of me or have things in common in their viewpoint with the concept of me.
Starting point is 04:52:16 I'm trying to figure out how to describe this. I was trending on Twitter because someone else that those people apparently dislike as well, put on Instagram the thumbnail picture of one of our YouTube clips. Have I gone through that goddamn procedure and laid that out as succinctly as possible? Almost succinctly, but you certainly laid it out.
Starting point is 04:52:46 I guess what happened was the other day on Instagram, one of our guest artists, George Livonitis, who just had a baby, and George... And is not going to name it John Laronitis. And that's not his last name either. and we say hello to George and his family who are listening right now in Australia. But George did this fine artwork of Stephen P. New as a lawyer representing,
Starting point is 04:53:07 I don't even know. And the artwork, Punk and A. Steel were on the stand. And you were the judge. Well, you couldn't put everybody in the whole courtroom in there. So he got the important players in. Me, Punk, Steele, and, of course, Stephen P. Neu and the center of the piece. And it's a very nice piece. And we put it up and it got a good reaction on YouTube. and I guess CM Punk, maybe when he was on YouTube looking to see what's happening on that day, what's trending, he saw this video and he...
Starting point is 04:53:34 Because he's very trendy also. He liked the image or he took the image and he sent it to his Instagram followers as part of his Instagram story. And for some people, it was some... And he added a caption, though, that I thought was very... Very apropos saying this should be hanging in the Louvre.
Starting point is 04:53:54 Yeah, thanks a lot, punk. As soon as he did that, George raised rate. Well, it had to happen sooner or later. I mean, 10 bucks only go so far even in Australia. The image went out there, and to some people, it was a eureka moment that, oh my God, he has the same lawyer as Jim Cornett. And to other people, it was a cool moment. Wow. Stephen P. Neu is a real person after all these years of hearing about him, and he represents the good guys. and again people lost their minds what apparently little they have i don't when you got that much helium in your head i guess things float away easily you turn your head sideways your ear canals big enough
Starting point is 04:54:38 there goes your brain up into space like a little kernel of popcorn but they have somehow to figure out a way to dislike all of us at the same time they have overlooked, first of all, Stephen, who's almost completely innocent and all is, but he hasn't gotten a lot of heat because he's done a variety of representation of wrestlers as individuals, as clients, as friends against the big corporations, as well as other small people, the little of the everyday folks against big corporations, that's his line of work and he generally makes his clients happy. But for some reason, the idea of Jim Cornett and CM Punk
Starting point is 04:55:31 sharing some idea or concept or mutual friend or fucking viewpoint inflamed people to where they completely lost track of their fucking senses and somehow equated that to both of us having somehow become right wingers. Jim hates the bucks. And punk hates the bucks. It's the apocalypse. And it's insane.
Starting point is 04:56:02 Now that punk has gone back to the WWE, has he abandoned all of his principles? What? What's it the fuck? And some guy, some guy said, well, this could be a career killer for punk. Like for anybody that he goes out in front of
Starting point is 04:56:21 any of those WWE shows are going to have a fucking clue what the fuck he was referring to to begin with or even know he referred to it. They're just there to see him punk because he's a superstar, you fucking morons. And by the way, this is the most popular wrestling podcast ever. An AEW's losing fan. You should shut up about it. It'll kill his career.
Starting point is 04:56:43 It'll help his career, if anything. Good Lord. And I mean, again, I'll, you know, I just, dismiss, I tolerate with laughter and condescension. He's racist, he's sexist, he's homophobic, he's an asshole.
Starting point is 04:57:02 Because only idiots believe that. They don't listen to the program. Well, the asshole part, I might own up some of that. But calling me a right winger, they've gone too far, Brian. They've gone too far, especially in support of who they're allegedly supporting
Starting point is 04:57:23 because they're Buccaroos fans and their AEW fans and they're fans of all the people that we fucking blister and we say bad things about their favorite wrestlers and they're the ones that are either fanatical
Starting point is 04:57:38 in some right-wing way the Buccaroos or the religious fanatics the cons gave money to fucking Trump so did Jericho and his wife went to the insurrection and bragged about it on Facebook. But punk and I
Starting point is 04:57:53 are somehow in this fucking ilk. Well, how do they get it? Where do they get it? The problem is Jericho donating money and the comm's donating money. These aren't things they brag about.
Starting point is 04:58:08 These are things that people find through public records because you have to make this public what's donated to a politician. The bucks have made their views pretty obvious in the past. All you and Punk have done is a podcast talking about your ultra-liberal views
Starting point is 04:58:23 and wear t-shirts for trans rights and gay rights and women's rights on television. Other than that, you guys are ultra-right-wingers, the likes of which we haven't seen since Jerry Falwell. Have never been seen before Falwell was a liberal. That pinky commie. Pinky-comy, Jerry Falwell, really? You know, that should have been a goddamn gimmick, too,
Starting point is 04:58:47 in the 60s, during the cold. or a Pinky Kami. Maybe even that would have been, you know what, that was the manager's name, the girl manager, Pinky Kami. And there's General Kami with his manager, Pinky Kami. Anyway, so, yes,
Starting point is 04:59:07 so then I trended for however long and punk trended and people have called for the end of his career. He's the hottest star in business and will continue to get hotter. We're apparently the hottest podcast of business will continue to get hotter. Check out the views on YouTube
Starting point is 04:59:24 for Jim Cornett on smart appliances versus anybody else talking about shit that nearly claimed all their lives. I saw someone send the picture out. It was the most ridiculous thing. It was, I guess, from punk going to NXT or the Performance Center, whatever. If they're the same thing or different, I don't even know.
Starting point is 04:59:42 But he was there and he took pictures with various talent, some of the women. And it was a picture of all the women and said, see, no. No men. No men. Like he's there as a predator. I mean, this is how sick some of these people are. What's he supposed to say? I'm sorry, Nikita. I've hit my photo quota for the day for women. I can't take any more. It's insane. Well, and again, do the people think that he was going up to them saying, could I have my picture taken with you, a new trainee, uh, rosy-dozy? And maybe he did. Who knows? Maybe he didn't want a picture with one or two people. He probably never met these. These are brand new.
Starting point is 05:00:20 fucking NXT? I can understand if it's the main roster, but he probably hasn't met these people before they were probably asking for him for a picture because when a talent on the roster of his level and or magnitude
Starting point is 05:00:35 of him comes down to visit and do that, normally he doesn't go around asking the talent to take pictures with him when he first meets them. That's the other way around.
Starting point is 05:00:50 Who could I have my picture taking with you see and punk? So that's not his fault anyway. See, this just is another exposure of something we've kind of been on the forefront of dealing with. The nini hysterical fan. It started before AEW when the young bucks and Colt Cabana and people that either you rejected or you just simply didn't want to book because it was too expensive took out their frustrations for their careers on you.
Starting point is 05:01:20 And then when things started to get better for them, still, you were the boogeyman. They needed you to be the bad guy to get all their fans riled up. See, he was wrong. He was so wrong. He wanted to work with us. He wanted to go on the road and work with us. No, he didn't, you idiots. So then all these nitty fans had a problem with you because of all that.
Starting point is 05:01:43 Then AEW starts and you point out the bad shit. And you still see it now. Now it's even more. Because let's face it, no, the first few shows, they shone a bright LED fucking spotlight on the bad shit to where you couldn't really overlook it because it was so glaring. And this whole time they kept saying you're out of touch. While this audience kept growing and more and more people felt like Jim was representing their voice as a wrestling fan, you were out of touch. We were all out of touch. And here we are.
Starting point is 05:02:16 2020, going into 2024, we have all this audio archived. Where were we wrong? Where was this show or the experience ever wrong in telling you what was going to happen and the reality of it? And this audience keeps growing. At a touch.
Starting point is 05:02:36 Are the young bucks in touch right now? Are the young bucks hysterical fans in touch? Or are they out of touch with reality? Who is more popular right now? Jim Cornett of the Young Bucks. They're out of touch. Go look at their YouTube numbers. Go look at their YouTube.
Starting point is 05:02:53 There's a reason they've abandoned their YouTube show. We run them off of YouTube like scalded dogs. All we saw was assholes and elbows of the Buccaroos as they bonsied off the YouTube channel. So when people want to talk about out of touch and everything and people can complain on Twitter about you, the audience loving you is three times as large on just Twitter alone. And what's more out of touch? People who are consistent and time proves them to be correct? Or 60-year-old men whose hair goes from gray to black to red?
Starting point is 05:03:26 And they're trying desperately to fit in with an audience that's abandoning them. But now there's something to be said for the fellow kids out there. And we need to try to educate them. They need to learn, Brian. That's the problem is the kids and the people with the shifting hair colors, they need to learn not to just go with the fads, not just the instant gratification
Starting point is 05:03:52 or the self-gratification or whatever it is that they're going, they need to look at the overall thing for history. How is this all going to play out in the end? And that's where you and I and people of our magnitudeness ilk come out ahead because they're just going with every little willy-nilly fad and then the hula hoop and there's the pet rock.
Starting point is 05:04:15 Oh, it's so. shiny. But you and I are like astronomers that are looking out into the future. That's where you got that time travel machine for. Hey, Jim, from what you see on Twitter, serious question, how does the hysterical smart fan, not all smart fans, obviously, just the hysterical smart fan, the hysterical young bucks fan compared to like the rock and roll express fans, the girls in the 80s, in terms of just their reaction to things and how they behave? Well, it's different because it's now 32-year-old men acting like the 14-year-old girls. And so that's, I mean, there's similar behavior,
Starting point is 05:04:55 but with a vastly different demographic, does that make any sense? But in all honesty, I understood the 80s fans or the 80s young fans, rock and roll express fans, better than I do these current fans today, because those girls weren't smart to the business. They thought that here's these cute guys that we like and we have their poster. And it's like any other rock and roll teen idols or movie idols and whether James Dean or goddamn whatever the fuck in any era,
Starting point is 05:05:33 right? Frank Sinatra was a teen idol one time in his career. Very big with the Bobby Soxers. The Bobby Soxers. So the point is it's not, it wasn't a new phenomenon. and it happened in wrestling. And those teenage girls generally between, well,
Starting point is 05:05:52 under 22, they genuinely believed, whether you can talk about anybody being smart to fucking wrestling or not, it's fucking teenage girls, right? They lived and died with those guys, and they hated us, and they would write us legitimate letters in crayon.
Starting point is 05:06:12 When I turn 18, I'll find you in kill you. That was an exact quote. And they're in the Midnight Express book and maybe someday I'll do a book just of the goddamn mail, right? But the point is, these are adults who are well aware of the businesses of work and that these guys are, the only damage that's really being done to them is not by the opponents, it's by themselves, sometimes by the opponents when they're klutzy enough. and it's it's not even the grown adult men who could get behind Steve Austin or fucking Jackie Fargo or anybody of that ilk in between who could take a few fucking beers and
Starting point is 05:06:55 goddamn get lost the idea this is a fight maybe one climbing the ring it's a bunch of guys sitting there waiting to watch people cartwheel fuck just fuck so to have this level of not only misinformation and outright delusion and not understanding the personalities involved and just whatever the fuck you've heard somebody else say on Twitter and being that vehement about it, I think they're fucking
Starting point is 05:07:26 mentally bankrupt and cognitively impaired just as a first fucking blush statement. Plus you have to understand it must be really hard for a lot of fans who bought into the A.E. W myth and the AEW Dream and everything about the Bucks and the elite and, you know, we're doing it for everyone else. There are fans who bought into that. I've been doing this for 40 years and watching it for 50, and they just didn't want to
Starting point is 05:07:52 think that I knew what I was talking about because it conflicted with their fucking delusional ideas of what wrestling is supposed to be. Is that goddamn where we've come? Well, my point is they were mad at you when you first started saying these things. Imagine how mad they are at you now when all these things are coming to fruition. That's the point. You didn't go away, they thought you would. They thought they were going to be able to kill you off.
Starting point is 05:08:16 And here you are, would your picture is going to the Louvre? They almost bored me to death. They almost got me to go away that way. Jim, it is my show. And we got to talk about Raw later, because I know you watched it. Yeah, yeah. But we're going to go slightly out of order because dynamite aired last night as we are recording right now. We don't have ratings yet.
Starting point is 05:08:38 It was a hell of a spectacle. And I understand you did not see the whole show. There's no way that I was going to watch that on Valentine's Day night. And we are recording early and I've had other commitments this morning, such as sleep in the late o'clock in the morning. So we're going to, we're going to let the people know exactly what they tried to get away with on national television in its entirety on the experience this week. Uh, because there was a lot of problems with the show, but one thing has been...
Starting point is 05:09:11 Oh, wait did you see the main event? You have no idea. Wait, do you see the main event? Oh, God. I hope, I wish your DVR would record the overrun just for the outrage. Uh, well, I'm sure it didn't, but I'll, I'll try to find a clip of the outrage. Um, it was pretty outrageous from the parts that I saw getting to the one segment that has triggered my continued popularity today. And let me just say this, before we tell the people in detail what the hell went on here, I would love to take credit for everything. I'd love to be like shit-stained. I created water, bro.
Starting point is 05:09:51 It was dry without me until I came around. I created it. I would love to take credit for everything. But just because maybe I'm the most high-profile person saying these things, it's not and I'm not trying to steal anybody's material because there's some things that are empirically
Starting point is 05:10:13 objectively, objectively, observably obvious, correct? And one of them that is not a hidden fact something that we didn't create the earth-shaking revelation of
Starting point is 05:10:30 we just talked about because it's true and they've never made any great effort to hide it, is that the buccaroos got all their fucking friends from school jobs in the big time wrestling company when they found somebody that was rich enough and stupid enough to hire all those people and nobody else ever wanted.
Starting point is 05:10:53 Brian, did we break this news to the world? Or was it already fairly common knowledge for anybody that wouldn't pay attention and hadn't, you know, got their fucking, various buccaroos fallacies stuck in their mouths. They knew this, right? Everybody. Well, I think people in the business knew this.
Starting point is 05:11:18 Even some of the people turning a blind eye knew this. The general public may not have known it, although they may have said, who are these people that are just showing up on this wrestling show? Well, the general public, yes, the general public didn't know who any of these fucking people were. But the smart fans... And still don't. Exactly.
Starting point is 05:11:35 The smart fans, they kind of knew it too. because it was obvious. So, you know, like I said, I would love to take credit for, you know, breaking some new ground and exposing something that was completely unheard of. But no, everybody has known that was either in the business
Starting point is 05:11:57 and wanted to be honest or as a smart enough fan on the internet that knew all the behind-the-scenes stuff exactly what this whole thing has been. They had their fucking click and they, along with Kenny, and, you know, and Cody fell in that some kind of way with the Bullet Club when he was going around the world
Starting point is 05:12:21 reinventing himself so he could go back to the WWE and take over. And their friends and who they were, and then Tony Kahn was gifted unlimited amounts of money by his father, to have to start his dream and he fell under the sway of these guys know what they're doing and he let the only one that did get away more on that later and now it is what it is and they've seen through the douchebag brothers they that nobody gives a shit about the buckaroos anymore and they were the ones that plumbed the depths of nepotism and friend
Starting point is 05:13:04 hiring to the deepest, right? So now they're trying to play on that to their dwindling audience because everybody they've got left kind of knows that they're douchebags that got all their friends' jobs and built a billionaire. Tony doesn't realize how bad it makes his company look. And they're acting like, or I'm sorry, and Uncle Dave is acting like that I'm the instigator of all of this talk that nobody else could see it in front of their very eyes unfold
Starting point is 05:13:43 over the last few years. If it wasn't for that, Cornyn, nobody'd be saying this shit. Well, that's the thing. If anyone tells the truth about AEW or some of the people in AEW, they get accused of being like Jim Cornett or copying Jim Cornett, not recognizing that the much smaller group that drinks the Kool-Lade of AEW or just really wants A.E.W. to succeed past where they're going to succeed,
Starting point is 05:14:06 both because of what AAW is and the people in AAW, it gets to be ridiculous. It's the smaller group pointing at everyone else who says the real stuff, the much, much larger audience that says the real stuff, and somehow it's an insult that they're talking like Jim Cornett. It's an insult to some people. A quick bit of time travel here. Are you sure it wasn't a long bit of farting? Do you have gas, Mr. Last?
Starting point is 05:14:39 It's the machine. It's the time travel. Is that the smell of, smello vision we got along with this? Anyway, I'd set this thing up. Well, we'll try to set this thing up. We are traveling one way or the other, I forget, to talk to you about something that everyone's talking about without actually doing the full review,
Starting point is 05:14:57 which will be traveling back in time to go do. But on Monday Night Raw this past week, Jim, a reference was made by one CM, punk to the drive-thru and the experience, although he ordered it the experience in the drive-thru, but that's another story. Well, that's subjective. People can pick which one they want to go first. There's so many to go around.
Starting point is 05:15:21 But you have completely confused people that might be listening to this on YouTube at this point, Mr. Last, without having knowledge or cognizance of the fact that this will be dropped into the podcast later on, as you mentioned. but basically people will not quit worrying us to death, as Aunt Lola used to say, on the Twitter machine, please say something about this, please say something about this.
Starting point is 05:15:46 So we're going to do an episode of your program, you're a punk mentione there. The drive-through. The drive-thru. That should have been the first show he mentioned. I don't know what happened. We're going to do an episode of that in less than 24 hours, but we're going ahead and addressing,
Starting point is 05:16:04 this hot button issue just to get the people off our battle, or at least off a Twitter so they can go back to their homes and their lives and their families, they can get out of the streets. I mean, this thing is goddamn, there's people
Starting point is 05:16:20 with all bonfires everywhere. Where are you seeing this? Well, it's on the news. What news? Well, WCPQT, Poughkeepsie had a big piece on it. But there's lot of, well, if you take Twitter
Starting point is 05:16:36 as a reference for anything, and boy, in that case, I've got some ocean front property in Nevada to sell you. But this has been the big issue here. I'm trendy McTrenderson again. People have blown up on both sides of the issue. People who are upset
Starting point is 05:16:52 that I have wished death on their favorite wrestlers wish I would die. I just want to let that one sink in for a second. And of course the people who listen to the program of which there are legion, as we demonstrably can be easily proven, this is not hyperbole emitting from my sense of the magnitude of me.
Starting point is 05:17:17 It's just factual, folks. A lot of people listen to this thing, apparently more than we realize, Brian, and we're pretty goddamn on top of this thing. And they're taking the pro and con stance on whether or ought to be elected president of the United States, or whether it ought to be burned in effigy in every town square in America with a population over 2,500.
Starting point is 05:17:40 There's no in-between on this issue. And so we thought we would do a little, just a little statement to put, you know, is this like a fireside chat? Do we have to put the nation at ease? Get the people back to work. Now that I think about it, what is this? If we're not reviewing the actual segment, what are we doing? We are commenting on being commented upon because it became a,
Starting point is 05:18:03 fucking thing. And I don't know what's the matter with all these people. But again, here is what happened for those of you who may have been living under a rock or a stone or living of life free to pursue your other interests and don't
Starting point is 05:18:19 hang on all this stuff. The other night on Raw, about 36 hours ago here as we sit here, I guess, now or so, punk was advertised to be on the show as well as you know, we knew we were going to see Cody and we had a whole bunch of big stuff
Starting point is 05:18:38 was going to go on and since I knew punk was going to be on the show even I was running around the house is what I was doing because it gets dark later and I was trying to get all of the evening things done because normally I don't watch Raw Live as you know
Starting point is 05:18:54 I record it so I can zip through much of it later on right but I had it on in the TV room so I'd keep an eye if Punk came out and I swear to God I was almost there and I guess I should back up a little bit Harley's been stopped up
Starting point is 05:19:13 past couple of days and then she was stopped up for a couple days over the weekend eating normally but not pooping and then the moment came and it was ugly and required bathing of her in the in the sink with the you know liquid soap and the scissors and the whole thing
Starting point is 05:19:32 Why do you need to tell this story? Well, because it ties into what's going to go on here. And then she didn't poop again for another day and a half. So we knew there was an explosion coming. And we wanted to make sure it happened outside the house. So right about the time that Punk was about to come out, she gave me the signal and I took her outside and she wandered around and it took forever. but boy, boy howdy, again, it was even worse.
Starting point is 05:20:05 And what happened was that we had to take her around back to the patio and then do some more trimmage and do some more wiping and comforting of the baby before we could even bring her in the house. And by the way, she's feeling better now. She's gotten all regular and everything. But what happened was I never went back to Raw. So the next morning I get up and I'm trending and people are inflamed and goddamn whatever the fuck's going on.
Starting point is 05:20:33 And I had to catch up on this. And one guy on Twitter got it right. He said, you know, Cornette's trending again. And he's probably out taking Harley out for a Russo and doesn't even know it. That was exactly what was happening. That's how it tied in, Brian. It's a great story. So anyway, what happened was punk came out, was doing his live in-ring promo that
Starting point is 05:21:01 We will cover fully when we record your program tomorrow when we revamp or review all of the momentous occasion of Raw. But he'd do it his promo and he happens to mention, he said, everybody, this is true. Everybody's got to talk about him because think about this. Everybody's talking about us because he talked about us. And since everybody talks about him and everybody talks about what he talks about, well you can see there's a domino effect here and as he was mentioning his promos and etc and everybody had to talk about him to get attention
Starting point is 05:21:40 and he's looking at Pat McAfee down there at ringside and he's in you Pat McAfee he said I understand you've got a program daily program I don't not a regular listener I listen to the experience in the drive-through but you had a guest on your program, Pat McAfee,
Starting point is 05:22:02 and went right back to it. And that's why, again, he's a master. He's a cunning linguist because this is not inside smart talk that confuses the fucking story and half the audience, and they don't understand because it's the crux
Starting point is 05:22:21 of what they're trying to get together. It was not meant for that audience or for that story or that promo to be an aha gotcha moment. It was a little drop-in for those of you who know, you know, and the people who love us, as we said, there are many.
Starting point is 05:22:38 They got a pop out of it, and the people had hate us, and boy, ha ha! There's a bunch of those two. Their heads caught on fire. But he, at the same time, went right back to the put, but you, Pat, so the delivery was perfect.
Starting point is 05:22:56 Because it was, what do the kids call it, an Easter egg, Brian, which dropped in there. I mean, not really. An Easter egg, it's not just thrown out there so obviously, I don't think. Well, it was there. It was a subtle little jab for some people and a nice little wink at other people, and it didn't detract from their story because he went right back to it and started making the points he needed to make.
Starting point is 05:23:18 That's how you fucking talk to the smart audience while at the same time not deterring yourself from your program and your, your, your, meaning of your story. But nevertheless. And by the way, everybody not only got mad at me for existing and for you and I guess for
Starting point is 05:23:37 existing with me, but now, oh, my that punk, he listens to those that, oh my God. Oh, he's horrible. More on that later. But McAfee emerged Duns, by the way, but I'll bring it up because when when he told Pat McAfee, Punk did,
Starting point is 05:23:53 he said, I don't listen to your program, I listened to experience in the drive-thru. McAfee said, understandable. I'm sure Pat's listened to a program that we've done or two in the past here, because most people do in this wrestling environment that we find ourselves in. But I got to think that Pat McAfee would agree with some of our philosophy on wrestling. You know, he's from Indianapolis. He actually engaged Ripper.
Starting point is 05:24:26 Rogers to train him before he got in the business. So he had a solid basics and fundamental, which is why he's overperformed for the amount of matches he's had. But, Brian, you are well aware about philosophy of wrestling most of the time. If you ask Rip Rogers and I
Starting point is 05:24:47 a question, you'll probably get similar answers. So I'm sure Pat has, he's no stranger to some of our opinions, one way or the other. Well, no, he's a busy guy. maybe he's just trying to look trendy. Well, I mean, he does, you know, he does hang out with some of the cool cats, though. He really does. He's, you know, he's not just one of these pretend celebrities.
Starting point is 05:25:08 He hangs out with the cool cats and the hip kids. Yes, even him. Yes, he's a rapper, right? Yes, I heard his last fucking record. Really? You heard the record of Heathcliff, the cat? Yes. Yeah, well, he's one of the cool cats.
Starting point is 05:25:25 That's right. I'll tell you, is he's, Is it spelled like KATT, Heathcliff the cat? No, but if he leaves the record label, it may have to be just because of trademark issues. Well, as we're confusingly similar, sometimes we'll get by. But anyway, back to our topic. So after that mentioned, then they went on with the rest of the interview presentation, which was brilliant, one of the greatest segments on modern WWE television in a while, but we'll review that at a different time.
Starting point is 05:25:56 that lit Twitter and the, what are the other things called that these people congregate on and are drawn to like moths to a flame, to vent their opinions to the world, the reddits and things and message boards? The mirror. The mirror. Well, it's the same thing in a lot of cases.
Starting point is 05:26:18 And like I said, many were four and some were again. And boy, the ones that are again, are again, again, again. And they hate me, and they loathe me, and they despise me. I've been called a phob and an is. But I'll tell you one thing, Brian. One name that some guy called me on Twitter that I refuse to put up with, that I will not ever admit to being, and that I'm highly offended by, he called me a homophone.
Starting point is 05:26:52 A homophone, Brian. And I'll have you know that I'm not now, nor have I ever. been one of two or more words that are pronounced the same but differ in meaning and sometimes spelling. And I resent that implication. I, sir, am not a homophone. But, Edward, what is the matter with people? It tickles me to death. By the way, thank you again to all of you people who, as I said, that was a real thing. He wished death on so-and-so's. I wish he'd die. I appreciate your and your hospitality, your hostility. It does my old retired heart good to see that I can reach out
Starting point is 05:27:35 once again through the airwaves of life and touch your fucking taint in such a goddamn annoying manner that you'd rather goddamn see me go over the edge of a cliff than a million dollars land in your front yard. I enjoy that. But what the fuck is a matter with? How can anybody get this worked up? To the point They were bad at
Starting point is 05:27:58 And punk, he's not the person I thought he was If he listened to that, I said, bad, God, is everybody that listens to Michael Jackson
Starting point is 05:28:07 still interested in a improper fashion with underage minors? Maybe that wasn't even a best, that's not a really great analogy. Harrison that I... You putts? What was that? Well, I'm offended.
Starting point is 05:28:23 What? You homophone? But nevertheless, what the fuck? If real problems came up in these people's lives, are they the kind of people that you have to call the authorities to go tackle in the middle of the street and fucking restrain and take somewhere involuntarily? If they get a fucking speeding ticket,
Starting point is 05:28:43 if something really happens in their life? The other thing that makes it all even more ridiculous, as regular listeners know, as anyone who actually knows you as a person knows, I'm a, you know, liberal from the Northeast. You're the most liberal fucking person I've ever met. That's the other thing. They're saying that you are against all the things that you are absolutely not against.
Starting point is 05:29:07 It's insane. Such a goddamn. And meanwhile, they're worshipping the fucking trampoline cowboys that are birth deniers and fucking right-wing conspiracists and fucking in some cases, their elders contributed to the fucking attempted overthrow the government Jericho
Starting point is 05:29:26 Cherico! Did I have any blood relatives at the insurrection for those of you who are worried that I'm some kind of right-wing lunatic?
Starting point is 05:29:38 Did you have any distant relatives there? I don't think I have any more distant relatives. But anyway, so, but once again, if a real problem, if a real problem
Starting point is 05:29:53 happened in these people's lives, how would they handle it, that they are so mad that they have to sit there and type? My head's on fire because of this guy listening to this podcast and this guy's podcast, and he says horrible things about all my favorite wrestlers. He's horrible. He wished her that he would die. I wish he'd die. I wish he'd die.
Starting point is 05:30:14 See, that's the thing. You're all these things that they want to say is the worst thing in the world because you hate their favorite wrestlers or because you critique their favorite wrestlers. I even see some people just come out and say, he makes fun of them. Yes. What? You can't make fun of stupid?
Starting point is 05:30:31 Come on. You can't make fun of things you see on these wrestling shows? Come on. They make fun of my wrestling business. That's why I make fun of their attempts to be involved with it. So we're even. At worst, I'm just better at it than they are, right? I mean, is that, have I said,
Starting point is 05:30:52 outside any of these fucking people's houses in the car late at night that I've talked bad about and fucking, you know, you goddamn done the old fucking drive-by thing where I'm driving around their houses, like, I'm going to get you shaking my finger. What the fuck? The old drive-by thing. Is that what you call it? Well, I mean, the old drive around the house thing and you know, you're always sitting... Oh, yeah, that old thing. Yeah, I'm not talking about an actual drive-by. Well, I'm not up on that lingo. I don't do those things. I hate Kenny Omega.
Starting point is 05:31:28 I have not advocated for anyone to fucking catch these people walking down the street and fucking even give them a tongue lashing. I give them enough of a tongue lashing. Uncle Dave gives them different kinds of tongue lashings. But I'm just expressing my opinion. and said, oh, he's so horribly, he's so bad. Well, you know, the truth of the matter is we saw a pretty, obviously a pretty large audience come out and comment on this, but I don't think the Jim Cornett haters was a bigger audience than the people that were just happy that Punk came out publicly as a listener of the show.
Starting point is 05:32:12 That's the thing other listeners felt, you know, good about the fact that their favorite show, the number one show, the best fucking show that we are over here and here's CM Punk listening. the reaction from the anti-Jim Cornet people is exactly why some other wrestlers who do listen won't publicly acknowledge it because of the lunatic fans. Well, yeah, and also, these are the people on the Twitter machine and their ilk that, unfortunately, in my opinion,
Starting point is 05:32:44 make the Republicans feel normal. Because they're so batshit the other, just ridiculously, illogically, maniacally so fucking hand-wringy and cringy and pearl-clutchy and fucking whatever just from shit that other people tell them that's not even the fucking case. And when there's a real problem going,
Starting point is 05:33:08 that's why it's that real problem earlier if these people encountered a real problem, Brian. Well, there's a goddamn criminal lunatic trying to be elected president again. And so if they're so offended about me being so fucking whatever the fuck I am, ister isd or ismed or phobic or whatever, they ought to really be mad about that
Starting point is 05:33:30 because all those people really are. So what are they doing about that? Are they marching in the streets or are they just on Twitter complaining about a guy listening to a wrestling podcast? Yeah, get off Twitter and help rebuild a bridge or something, you idiots. Yes, yes. Don't even get me started on the bridges.
Starting point is 05:33:49 Did you see that video of the boat? Yes, I've driven across that bridge of Baltimore when I used to go up in that neck of the woods, now only accessible by rowboat. And fuck, that's what I'm telling you about the bridges here in Louisville. Oh, let's just close this son of a bitch down right now in the middle of the day for checking and tests, and it will, fuck. And this thing, but the boat fucking runs into one fucking pillar,
Starting point is 05:34:20 two miles of it goddamn collapses how was that fucking put together and it wasn't like the boat was even trying he just they lost power
Starting point is 05:34:31 and the whole goddamn what the fuck see why don't trust this shit but anyway back to this program the point is
Starting point is 05:34:42 speaking of building a bridge punk has apparently built a bridge with a lot of people that may not have have been watching Raw in a while. Did you hear the number? Maybe it's just because he mentioned us and, as I said, because of the magnitude of us.
Starting point is 05:34:58 But maybe it's because if CM Punk farts in the wind, people smell it across the country. Every time he talks, they want to listen. Every time he says something, it gets a reaction out of people. And I told you right before we started recording this, I'm trying to figure out how to express this, but we saw the quarter hours. We've seen that as of yesterday afternoon. As many people joined watching Raw for the CM Punk, Drew McIntyre,
Starting point is 05:35:33 Pat McAfee, fucking Seth Raleigh, at all segment, as many people joined watching Raw as watch Collision and Rampage in totality. And it, and it, And it went right back down as soon as he was done, by the way. Well, we're not going to do all the ratings here, but real quick, Monday Night Raw, and I have to say this was an excellent episode.
Starting point is 05:35:58 Maybe the best episode of Monday Night Raw I've seen in a few years. It was just a great episode. Boy, howdy. This segment was the 9 o'clock hour quarter five. Quarter three, it began in quarter four, quarter three, eight, 3845, the end of, oh, no, the entirety of Rickashay versus J.D. McDonough with two ad, which did 1.7 million viewers. The finish of that, the beginning of the CM Punk promo
Starting point is 05:36:26 with an ad break in between. Quarter four, 1.86 million viewers. Quarter five, the 9 o'clock hour, the punk Drew McIntyre or Seth Rawlins' confrontation, 9 to 915, 2.2 million viewers. And then the next segment, Shinska and Akamura,
Starting point is 05:36:47 with a promo and ad break, Candice Luray versus Ivy Nile. Oh boy. DIY, the awesome truth and New Day's backstage angle, an ad break in the beginning of DIY, DIY versus New Day, 1.77 million viewers. Well, so from start to finish, because he was only in part of that quarter four, but it still ticked up, and then the full quarter five at the top of the nine of clock hour, went from 1.7-something million to 2.2 million. And then back down again. And it was
Starting point is 05:37:27 2.2, by the way, was by far the highest quarter of the entire program, which included the rock. Well, I have an article here. Dave Meltzer reporting, CM Punk, very close to the people at the top of Nielsen. I'm lying, everyone. It's not a real thing. Don't report that on one of your clickbait sites. Don't have a little. say that Dave Meltz really reported that. Don't report that he says that until he thinks of it and says it. I mean, that... You know what I'm happy about?
Starting point is 05:38:02 Someone who I have a great deal of respect for in the wrestling industry, texted me about it. And I said, you know, because I didn't, you know, what are you supposed to say? And there's nothing really to say, oh, it's cool. You know, it is. I said, the one thing that makes me happy, the mention happened in the middle of an excellent segment. The mention, it wasn't just a lot of viewers there.
Starting point is 05:38:22 There were a lot of viewers there for The Rock. This is your life. There were a lot of viewers and the segment was awesome. So I'm happy about that. And, you know, again, it was a, it was a little drop in there, not a pipe bomb, maybe a stink bomb. Just for the people who know, you know, a little wink, wait. Neutron bomb. Oh, but it didn't take away from the.
Starting point is 05:38:49 from the story at hand and which they told remarkably. And, you know, there's interest. And you can imagine all these matches that they're opening up that punk is going to be hot for as soon as he's back with a variety of different people. And they're still keeping a presence and commentary. And we talked about that, that that might be a way to reintroduce him when he's ready
Starting point is 05:39:17 or maybe before he's ready, wink, wink, whenever that may be. Because he's talented at that. But to point is they got, no wonder Tony Kahn is still mad at old jungle Jackoff. Because look at this. He'd still be there. Stuck in that quagmire. Biggest star they had. He would still be doing somewhat numbers for Tony, but he wouldn't be doing numbers like this
Starting point is 05:39:43 because it's not possible for Tony's company to do numbers like this. He would also be selling a lot of merch for Tony. I mean, there's a lot of things, but I'm sure Tony made the best decision he could make. But it worked out the best for CM Punk. And, you know, you say it sets up a lot of matches, and it does. And I'm sure when those matches are on the big events, I'll really like them. More than anything, again, the trend, especially in the Paula Vecera, and I'm loving it. Because even though there's some boring matches you don't want to watch, even the look, Swami's going.
Starting point is 05:40:15 even the look has gotten better. Some of the camera shots, the shot when the rock came out, we'll talk about on the drive-thru, the shots during his confrontation because Drew was at the commentary table. Everything felt fresh and live and new. Yes. The match is getting set up is great,
Starting point is 05:40:32 but it's more verbal confrontations that aren't just bland. That's what I like, and that's what viewers like, too. And they seemed like they were interacting with each other rather than standing there for three minutes waiting for their line to hop in unnaturally, right? And everybody was a little sharp. And you mentioned when I'll be Seth and you be punk. I'm Seth.
Starting point is 05:40:54 Would you like to hear what I think? Nope. Exactly. Just nope. No one ever says that in a promo. It was amazing. And that's the thing also is they are playing with camera angles. It looks more fucking high-tech network quality.
Starting point is 05:41:10 They're getting a little cinematic presentation in these craven. shots and these beauty shots of the arenas and the fucking shot they do with a drone or whatever sometimes when they go in the door of the place and see and open up and see all the people and guys like punk who are naturals at communicating and he knows how to work television he knows where the camera is and what you know what it's going to look like when he's on TV so he's not just fucking moping around. But anyway, that's how you draw numbers, folks.
Starting point is 05:41:46 Just get on television on raw and mention the experience in the drive-thru. You're the highest rated quarter hour on the whole show. And if you're CM Punk. That's right. And with that, I think we have covered this issue and so much more for almost 30 minutes now. So we'll get back to the drive-thru. We will not time travel back instead. just so anyone knows, anyone who complains about us,
Starting point is 05:42:12 you never ruin our day. I'm over here playing music like it's a silent movie. So let's go back. I wish it was a silent movie when you play music. I mentioned it got 3,000 likes on Twitter. That's because everybody loves me on Twitter, Brian, because I've been trending again. I was trending.
Starting point is 05:42:37 I'll have you know yesterday evening while I was, I believe I was outside with Harley Quinn giving her a vigorous belly rub and awaiting the start of Svengooly. And I was trended on Twitter and didn't even know it. But that's because I'm trendy McTrenderson and people just love me and can't stop talking about me. And would you, I know you know, but maybe some of the folks don't know. This time I trended on Twitter. because when you and I had a discussion, Brian, here real recently, as it a couple days ago,
Starting point is 05:43:15 about how stupid it was for Tony Kahn to present Swerve Strickland, his brand new world champion, the fucking supposed top guy in the company, not only present that title as subordinate to the New Japan Pro Wrestling IWGP, U-R-S-E title and John
Starting point is 05:43:39 Moxley and not give Swerve a promo and not give Swerve any kind of Willow had a celebration here lately but Swerve didn't and not only that but he went out there and it took him 15 or 20 minutes to beat a human
Starting point is 05:43:55 Q-tip and old Kyle Feltcher I said Kyle may be a wonderful young man and he can do all the moves but you could teach Mighty Joe Young or Cheetah to do the wrestling moves, but that doesn't mean that they need to be doing them against your world champion. Why the fuck is Tony Kahn not treating swerve Strickland any better?
Starting point is 05:44:22 And with our clip went out on YouTube, Travis Heckel did another brilliant piece of art. He should be hanging in the Louvre on a daily basis. That's what everybody says about Travis. actually I think they're talking about his art but that's the way they say it nevertheless he depicted old Kyle Feltcher as a Q-tip
Starting point is 05:44:43 and me as Mighty Joe Young and swerve Strickland as I know this is a stretch swerve Strickland and people saw the artwork oh my God court is so racist
Starting point is 05:45:00 it's got to be canceled he's got to be run out of one person said he's core jim cornet should be escorted out of the wrestling community as forever let's go let's go buddy you're out of here let's the guys go i suggest that that person that said that on twitter come on over my garage door is always open you if you if you can hike 200 feet up the driveway and smile and say hello to the cameras that are hooked up to Stacy's phone and hop the fence before you do that and blah, blah, blah, blah. But come on up and escort me out of the wrestling community.
Starting point is 05:45:44 The wrestling community. If there is a wrestling community, turd blossom, you ain't in it either. So nevertheless, because I was the gorilla, I'm racist. Because I said, why does Tony Khan want to treat swerve Strickland that way? obviously a racist. Because Kyle Feltcher looks like a Q-tip. I don't know what...
Starting point is 05:46:11 I think any race can stick a Q-tip in their ear, up their nose, or wherever orifice they need a quick clean-out. So maybe he's neutral. But, um... So with these, they trend us on Twitter
Starting point is 05:46:29 for making me look silly in our eyes. artwork. And again, Cornett should have known better. Yeah, because I'm sitting here drawing all these goddamn things in my spare time dipshit. And by the way, again, Bravo, Travis. You're a prince, a prince among men. We haven't really talked about that much, but you see, Jim was such a fan of Jerry Lawler that he learned how to draw. Yeah. And he's been the one secretly,
Starting point is 05:46:56 Travis Heckel's a made-up name. It's not a real thing. He is Travis Heckel. I am Heckel. I am. I'm heckle and you are heckle and we are all heckling together. But do these people exist in the same world of reality that the rest of us do, that they just lose their fucking minds? Again, folks, I remind you, there are serious issues that you could use some of this energy. There are wars going on in the world. There are hungry children and abused animals.
Starting point is 05:47:31 A goddamn criminal pig could be elected president. it again! And your minds are blowing up on your Twitter machines where you're actually able to say things to people and about people without repercussions because they drew a picture of me as a gorilla
Starting point is 05:47:49 in the same fucking frame as the black man that I was advocating for as Paul Heyman says to be presented in a better life. I got news for all of you. take my penis in your mouth and suck it. But a non-coercive way.
Starting point is 05:48:12 Yeah, that makes it better. There's no coercion at all. I'm just telling you, do this. I'm not going to make you physically. You can slink on off with your tail between your legs, but if you remain here, you need to take my penis in your mouth and suck it. You can all stay away from my penis, for the record. Well, they don't want to break normal tradition, Brian.
Starting point is 05:48:36 People have been doing that for years. So, you know, it's, anyway. It's crazy. Now, there are certainly people that are predisposed to not liking you because you make fun of their favorite wrestlers and succeed and haven't failed. And to be fair, if I met these people that you mentioned and knew them personally, I would be making fun of them too. so there's that.
Starting point is 05:49:04 They know that. So they can kind of assume that, well, Cornett would rip the shit out of me if you ever fucking saw the state of me so I probably wouldn't like him anyway. But let's just say this. And again, you don't draw the art. You simply talked about the content that led to the art. Travis bases
Starting point is 05:49:20 every piece of art off things that Jim says. Usually there's something you have to listen deep into the clip to realize what exactly is referenced in the art. It's part of the fun. But the key words where you have to listen, to it. Right.
Starting point is 05:49:34 And in this artwork, Sorb Strickland's portrayed as why am I with these two idiots? And as in all the arts, Travis is portraying Jim Cornett in a fun, silly manner.
Starting point is 05:49:45 He mentioned Mighty Joe Young. He's Mighty Joe Young. But these people don't like fun, Brian, unless it's silly, stupid wrestling done by children. Otherwise, fun is outlawed. But let me just say this too. Race had nothing to do
Starting point is 05:49:58 with the clip in question. Race had nothing to do with the artwork. and no point did any of us think it did. And if you looked at this and your first thought was that's racist because Jim Cornett, who last I checked was notoriously white, is portrayed as mighty Joe Young. If you saw that and said there's a race issue there because he's portrayed as an animal, a gorilla, maybe you have the problem with race. Not everyone else.
Starting point is 05:50:30 there's a lot of people want to point fingers at everyone for everything. This is this, this is that. This had nothing to do with any of that. Race never came into any of this. And then all of a sudden people want to yell about this artwork. It doesn't matter because it makes them mad and I love it. Because here's the thing, you little fucking dipshits. Anybody that gets mad about that, again, you can fuck off or blow me.
Starting point is 05:50:59 it's your choice but you can't cancel me because I don't work for anyone I don't care whether anybody listens this fucking show or not to be honest with you to be quite perfectly honestly I love the people that love me but I'd a whole lot rather right now be out in the backyard rubbing Harley Quinn's belly
Starting point is 05:51:19 so we do our own thing Brian people have the choice of whether to listen if they don't want to listen they don't have to but you can't fire me because I don't quit. As long as I don't quit, I can just do this whenever the fuck I want to
Starting point is 05:51:37 and we don't have to make anybody fucking happy. Except the people who are listening to us in record numbers because we don't put up with bullshit like this and we don't apologize for silly ass shit that other people make up and we're not
Starting point is 05:51:54 lobbying for a job so we don't have to tell people that this goddamn fiasco of a fucking Chinese fire drill that you see on these wrestling programs actually makes any goddamn sense. We don't have to say that because we don't care whether they don't like us or not.
Starting point is 05:52:10 I'm lobbying for a job, for the record. Well, and you're going to get one in the fucking lobby of the theater, tearing those tickets and showing people their seat. I'd like to run Channel 9 or Channel 11 in New York and revitalize things. You could add them up and make Channel 20. it's not bad see there already the marketing is but but that's the point is if if it cancel all you want
Starting point is 05:52:35 because we don't do this on purpose to shock people we're not even doing this to make fucking money on purpose that just accidentally happened we're doing this because this is what we decided we were going to do and everybody that can't take a little goddamn honesty along with their entertainment amuses me. For fuck's sake, you're so used to people being mealy-mouthed and beating around a bush and trying not to fucking call
Starting point is 05:53:07 shit shite that they just don't know what to think. We're still talking about bad wrestling poorly done, or the occasional good wrestling done well.
Starting point is 05:53:23 But I don't think there's could we be like Blassie, Brian? When he first went to Japan, got on TV, the people couldn't handle it, they had three or four heart attacks. Can we give somebody a brain aneurism on Twitter? That's probably not a good idea for, you know, not all promotion is good promotion.
Starting point is 05:53:44 I don't know, I don't know. I think if this person from piss on fucking Donald in England, you know, Stratford on Avon, piss on Donald. That ought to be a place. It's just a lot of ignorant people. He had a fucking aneurysm because of something he read on
Starting point is 05:54:03 Twitter and dropped dead. There's straight away with blood coming out of his nose. There's just ignorant people out there. There are people who just want a reason to not like you? There are people who I saw, I don't need to listen to it to know it's racist. Yeah, well, it's obvious. What they're, we don't need to listen to that.
Starting point is 05:54:19 Because you might learn something. Heaven knows you don't want to learn anything. I'll tell you, there's too many people wagging their fingers and too many people who are, you know, allegedly all the way on the left who are pushing a lot of people far away. I think we ought to keep everybody's finger firmly in the middle. Stick it up your ass. That's what I say. Yeah, well, that's generally in the middle. Where is yours located?
Starting point is 05:54:44 Mine's in the middle. That's the middle. That's right there in the middle. Well, Jim, speaking of getting to the bottom of things, and before we get to dynamite, let's quickly bring up, I don't know how, quickly it'll be, but you trended it again. I don't even know if it's again. It was just part of the overall trend that was happening and you got swept up in. I was already trending and I received a boost, a boost to trend for a few more days.
Starting point is 05:55:10 Well, Adam Pierce, someone you previously worked with in Ring of Honor and who is now the, I think he's the general manager of Raw is the official title. Yes, yes. He's been on WWET TV for a number of years. everyone seems to like him except for merchandise weasels. I mean, everyone else has good things to say about him. And he decided to tweet out that he was wearing a very special outfit for Monday Night Raw. And it caused some people to get quite upset.
Starting point is 05:55:36 And I know we'll talk about Raw later on, but also Pat McAfee would then make a mention referring to the outfit. And again, it caused other people, oh, my. I think McAfee may have not gotten the flack that, Adam did, because he just made the comment on television, it's not like people could reply to that instantaneously from their phone or whatever. But poor Adam, continuing the rib, the joke that was peripherally about me, as we'll get to it a second, he makes a tweet, and every degenerate dumb fuck and fake person on Twitter immediately clogged up his goddamn
Starting point is 05:56:22 tweeting machine. so we apologize to poor Adam for having to deal with a bunch of knucklehead because apparently you know he's been doing things on Twitter saying things on Twitter appearing on Twitter for years and years now
Starting point is 05:56:40 and nobody's decided to hop on to him until it's not the WWE fans it's this subgenre of subhuman with a you know 72 different accounts apiece that decided to hop on him and scream at him for no reason.
Starting point is 05:56:57 So we apologize for poor Adam to have to block 14 people with 72 accounts apiece. But nevertheless, having said that, like, it's a surprise that I'm friends with Adam Pierce. We worked together in Ring of Honor 15 years ago. I've told the stories of our days in Ring of Honor and him telling Carrie Silken fuck Sid and Ross, the merchandise weasel, and blah, blah.
Starting point is 05:57:24 we enjoyed working together. Why is it a surprise? I've never had a bad thing to say about him that we would be friends suddenly, but nevertheless, what happened was because they're doing the draft on the WWE shows, and the red is for raw,
Starting point is 05:57:43 and the blue is for Smackdown. Then Adam Pierce wears a, and I must have, it was beautiful, and he pulled it up, blood red sport jacket and matching tie black shirt black pocket square very striking look very reminiscent of another person's look back in the old days you know what i don't want a toot moan horn but toot toot but anyway as he's going out to uh to do with some of the draft picks they get a shot of him in this outfit he makes some comments he turned as he's walking off they're
Starting point is 05:58:22 going to the break. Pat McAfee says, hey, grab a tennis racket, Pierce. Because he knows what the, you know, he's ribbing fucking Adam, right? He looks like Cordat. Got it in before the break. It's just a little joust. It means nothing to their audience
Starting point is 05:58:40 or in their universe because it's so much bigger than AEWs. But because of that, once that Adam heard about the little fucking rib that that McAfee did, he tweets out Sweet Stan Lane's introduction saying,
Starting point is 05:59:01 tonight's suit was brought to you by your friend and mine, Mr. Jim Coyette. And that's when all the fake people on Twitter lost their minds, the AEW subgenre of Dweller that have all the multiple accounts, because I've figured it out now, because they all have either
Starting point is 05:59:22 pictures of Japanese anime characters. Many of them are up front and mention AEW or We Heart Wrestling in their bio. Many of them say that they're women
Starting point is 05:59:35 when there's no way that these people are women. They may be men desperately wishing they could speak to women. And they all say the same thing or they quote tweet the same fucking people or the same people
Starting point is 05:59:48 with the same kind of thing. And they hopped all over at them. Like, How can you be friends with this human being and defend him? He says this and that and an instant and all, all this other stuff. And just with their fucking screaming heads, they, they, they, so they are not real. He's awful, so now we're allowed to harass you! Yes, it's like, how could you ever have spoken to or worked with this subhuman being that it's like I'm Paul Pot or something?
Starting point is 06:00:19 Every single person other than the Bucks, Owens, and Generico loved working with you. Well, see, that's the point. And actually, Generico and I would have probably been good if it had Steen hadn't been around. Fat-ass fucking drove a wedge with everybody. But the point is, is that for the past 40 years, the only people that I have worked with or for or that have worked for me,
Starting point is 06:00:47 that I have any issue with or that there has been problems with or the people that I came across that either gotten a business on a gift and didn't appreciate it, the Rousseau's, the Ferraras, the Duns, or the indie-minded fucking indie-rific outlaw bullshit crew that can get by with only when people think wrestling is supposed to be silly because they can't do it right. Otherwise, I believe we went through the,
Starting point is 06:01:17 the mathematics that one time, Brian, and figured that I technically have never asked for a job in a wrestling business in my life from the time that Jerry Jarrett asked me, do you want to be a manager? To modern day I've never asked to be booked. Everyone came to me. I didn't rudely throw myself at them.
Starting point is 06:01:45 And most of the people that I've worked forward, enjoyed the experience and felt they got something out of it. And again, the gym herds, the people that lucked into being in a wrestling business and didn't deserve it. Everybody else, from the dawn of my career to the time that I said, fuck it, I'm staying home, was pretty fucking happy in one way or another. Imagine that. Yeah, whenever you see one of those guys from the era you were active in the business, do I got an interview or something and someone says, what about Jim Cornett? They smile first
Starting point is 06:02:22 and then they say, oh, I love Jim Cornett. And then they have some kind of crazy story about something you did. It's never, that motherfucker. Well, it's every now and then there is. But usually it's someone that, you know, there's a reason for it. But usually it's, oh, I love that guy. And here's a story. But the fans, again, there are fans who can't take the fact that you reject the wrestling they like, whatever that may be. And because of that, you should be canceled. anyone who associates you should be canceled, but they're okay, they're above board. Well, and also you'll notice that people that have never met me
Starting point is 06:02:56 talked to me on a phone or worked with me in any capacity, hate my fucking guts. So I got that going for me. But anyway, so that's what happened again for, you know, poor Adams' Twitter, just trying to make innocuous little jokes, you know, with McAfee and a little elbow in the ribs to me
Starting point is 06:03:19 and suddenly everybody thinks he's goddamn, he's a heinous person because he would associate with me. But as we've discovered now, I think it's, again, they do the same things, they say the same things, they tweet the same things, their profiles look the same. Is this really what's left of the AEW audience is fighting ever harder to,
Starting point is 06:03:43 try to discredit people because of their favorite taint-tickling wrestlers? And they've got to mount this kind of shit thinking that it's going to make a fucking difference to me or anybody else? You know, there's a professor who just put out another book, his name's Scott Galloway, and he just, he appears on Bill Marr every now and then, and he's on TV every now and then. And he said it the other day, and it sounds crass, but if you really think about it, there's too many people who don't get laid. And because of that, there's this built up anger and frustration.
Starting point is 06:04:18 And especially when you're, you know, when you're insulting or putting down or joking about something they love, it's almost like you're taking something away from them personally because they have nothing else. And I think if more of the crazed wrestling fans on Twitter had companionship, even if it's just a hooker, I think it would really help. And I know it sounds like I'm making a joke, but I'm very serious. I think that's one of the big problems. And he said it out loud on that show, and I was like, man, finally, someone's saying it. More of these ninnies need to get laid.
Starting point is 06:04:52 But now they may be ninnies or they may be nattering nabobs of negativity. But I say this to you, Brian, since again, you're a, you're a, you're a, you're a buy fan. You're both a wrestling fan and a baseball fan. You had two sports. So you're a bi-fan. That's right. And bisexual.
Starting point is 06:05:10 If you buy me something, I'll have sex with you. Well, there are you. And again, I'm trisexual. I'll try anything. So in baseball, if a retired baseball player of some repute doesn't have to be a goddamn Hall of Fame, you know, just somebody that made it out of the minor leagues, is somehow as a broadcaster or is a column. or a commentator or whatever they're doing in the modern baseball world.
Starting point is 06:05:40 Retired great baseball player or moderately good baseball player. Now he's just, he's commentating on the sport in some fashion. If he says, I don't know what they see in this guy in fucking San Diego. He's a goddamn shits to me. His form is horrible. He fucking, he drops his pants when he slides into home base, whatever. do that guy's fans in San Diego scream at this fucking guy for, well, fuck you!
Starting point is 06:06:11 He's the greatest baseball player we've ever seen! Or is it just in this fucking hokey fucking business? There are crazy fans everywhere. But with wrestling specifically the online fan, and again, not all the online fans, you know, not everyone on a message board is a nut. It just so happens that a lot of the nuts congregate on message boards.
Starting point is 06:06:34 or Discord servers or Twitter, whatever the forum is, you get people that are like, hey, you know, I really like wrestling and I really just kind of want to converse with other people about it. And then there are people like, I am wrestling. You have to acknowledge my mental skill when it comes to knowing this stuff. And now I'll pounce on you. And if you don't like something I don't like, I will find a way to get rid of you. It's all that shit.
Starting point is 06:06:58 And it's too much of it. You know, when they went from the fans, I mean, went from just kind of knowing it was a work but nothing about how to thinking that they're smart and that everything was always scripted and laid out and produced and etc. And basically the what they believe is fake, even though it was anything from fake, they think anybody can fucking do it,
Starting point is 06:07:26 anybody can fucking write it. Which is Tony Kahn's syndrome. We'll talk about here at a second. And as a result, they don't respect it for what it used to be and what it sometimes still is at a high level because they're fucking morons and they need to keep their mouth shut
Starting point is 06:07:43 and I don't mean to offend you Brian to quote a person you're not a fan of but know your fucking roll you little twits people say to that credit your company went out of business yes the company that I had that went out of business versus the company that you never fucking had You couldn't keep company.
Starting point is 06:08:06 That's a V-FUWFKarty. You only booked for seven different places, as opposed to you booking a room at the Super 8. Who are you minuscule peons, you amoeba swimming downstream from the nuclear plant? To fucking critique anything I've done
Starting point is 06:08:22 in the wrestling business when you couldn't smell my farts, I went past you so quick. And again, the thing is, these are all people that would have been worshipping you, but they kind of went with that schism, where all of a sudden you became the boogeyman for the guys in Ring of Honor
Starting point is 06:08:37 that couldn't do whatever they wanted when you were there. And when you were gone, Jim Cornett became the boogeyman. And they used that. And they, I mean, the Young Bucks used you as this villain in their head to build themselves up with fans. But now look at where we are. Who do you think has more fans today?
Starting point is 06:08:57 Jim Cornett or the Young Bucks? Today. We can compare numbers. So we'll be doing it by the end of this program. But again, there's a lot of fans that can't cope and you keep trending because of it. But I think the interesting thing is whether it was the swerb Strickland artwork or this, yeah, there are some real vocal nini fans. And a lot of them just breathtakingly ignorant.
Starting point is 06:09:25 And a lot of them just don't understand the irony of how they're behaving versus what they claim they're calling people out for. but the amount of feedback we've seen on social media in different places, the people actually going the other way. No, we listen to him. You're wrong. I think that's kind of been one of the interesting stories in the last week, the pushback from the audience, the people that actually spend their time and listen to these shows every week telling the other people, fuck you, fuck you.
Starting point is 06:10:00 Go out, get a job, and get your dick sucked. Not necessarily in that order. Probably in that order. You need a job. You need some money. You're a bum. Take a shower. This goes for a lot of you.
Starting point is 06:10:14 Are you done? I'm done. With venting at these people. But nevertheless, we'll continue to be here to trend and inspire fashion and set new standards for broadcasting. as we always do, but we appreciate because every time,
Starting point is 06:10:33 as I said, all 14 people with 72 accounts piece do the math I can't in my head. Do this. We get new subscribers and new people
Starting point is 06:10:43 actually listening saying, well, I gotta hear what the fuck this guy is saying he's got to be full of shit. He's got to be
Starting point is 06:10:50 a complete maniac. He's got, you know, he's got a point. And we get new listeners because they want to hear for themselves how we could be
Starting point is 06:10:59 saying these horrible, villainous things in public and to come to find out we're not. So thank you very much. Thank you very much. That's the nicest thing that anyone's ever done for me. And again, you always hate when other people get caught in the crossfire. So if you're someone who appreciates the good work that Adam,
Starting point is 06:11:19 Adam Cole has been to say that Adam Pierce does each and every week, please, when you go to a WWE event, bring a red rose to symbolize the red suit and try to hand it to him and see how far you get. Yeah, or just throw him at him, throw flowers at his feet as he walks to the ring, red roses. They have to be red. Red roses for Red Rover. Come on over. But can you imagine if some night, they just decided to, when they go back to Milwaukee, Adam's hometown,
Starting point is 06:11:49 they should throw red roses at his feet as he walks to the ring and be the greatest visual in a history of wrestling. Boy, they really like the general manager here in fucking, And he's from Green Bay. Well, fuck, they'll never go back to Green Bay. And if these people were this upset about him wearing a red suit, when will they find out you're the new GM of WWE Speed? Well, hey, that's because I can't last as long as I used to.
Starting point is 06:12:15 So they had to get me in and out quick. Brian, you're going to have to help me. You're going to have... I've tried to be good. I've tried to change my ways to reform, to fucking see the light, to turn over a new... leaf to fucking make some New Year's resolutions to modify my behavior. But I'm still upsetting people.
Starting point is 06:12:38 And I just, I don't, I'm very confused. Brian Woodkin, I hope all the cult of Cornette listeners will just take a second to help me work through this. Can you be my therapist here, my mentor, my advisor, my confidant. Your anger management therapist? Didn't we start with that? That didn't work out. I'm not angry now.
Starting point is 06:13:03 I'm not angry now. I'm bewildered. I'm bemused, bum-fuzzled, confused. I don't understand because, see, I've been trying to do things the right way. I've been trying not to tick so many people off. Now, it started out that I was ticking people off. I was making people upset. I was getting people all kinds of stirred up.
Starting point is 06:13:29 and just wound up in the crotch, when I would say things like, for example, so-and-so ought to be boiled in oil and have the fat sold for soak. Now, some people considered that an inflammatory statement. Or if I was to say, for example, that son of a bitch should be run over
Starting point is 06:13:47 by a steam engine in front of his immediate family. People thought that was being too extreme in my viewpoints. I'm guessing there would be a kidnapping involved there because why is everyone hanging out by the steam engine? well you know it's the locomotive it's the other side of the tracks a lot of people are living there these days and you know you got to get to one side or the other because when you're in the middle things happen but anyway so i tried to lighten up on people a little bit and i tried not to say
Starting point is 06:14:18 such inflammatory things like that no good gum bump and sack of snake feces ought to be drug out in a parking lot strung up and let kids throw rocks at him for a dime a piece and then these people started getting upset over our artwork, over the thumbnails, the innocent cartoon land thumbnails of the official Jim Cornett YouTube channel that have captivated the hearts of so many of the nation's children. They love the cartoon. And children, adults, big and small, or old and young, or old and new, or whatever. The children of all ages. They love the art, but some people, oh, goddamn, look at that picture. That prove he's a horrible son of a bitch.
Starting point is 06:15:06 Oh, my God. That fucking Cordette deserves to be run off the goddamn planet. We ought to fucking shove a hand grenade up his ass, pull the pen, and wherever his spleen lands, they get a prize. So we tried to even go further, Brian, and I actually, I gave somebody a compliment. And this is what I don't understand. I'm hoping you can walk me through this because I gave someone a compliment about their work in the wrestling business, not just a compliment, but a compliment about wrestling,
Starting point is 06:15:45 which is even rarer coming from me. And that person responded by saying, thank you for that compliment, Jim Cornett. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. And we both trended for three days with people saying, Oh my God, you're a no good piece of shit for thanking that no good piece of shit.
Starting point is 06:16:10 To the person that I complimented. I thought Adam Pierce was a piece of shit, but you're a bigger piece of shit because this happened after that. You should have known better. Are you going to wear a red coat? I'm trust trying to, and here's the problem. The reason why the third. they are mad at this person for thanking me, for complimenting them, is because they say that I'm a a misogynist and a racist, or racist and a misogynist.
Starting point is 06:16:44 I'm not sure which order they're putting it in. And the person that they're screaming at that is a horrible person because I complimented them is a black woman. so she doesn't have a voice in this it's what i say you're a racist because i know i'm white have we got caught in some kind of centrifugal situation here where we're spinning in a circle and i came up behind the goddamn issue and fucking lapped it because how i don't understand this it doesn't go together If I am complimenting a black woman for her work in wrestling, then why are the alleged wrestling fans saying horrible, disgusting things to her
Starting point is 06:17:42 and calling her names because she thanked me for the compliment? And I'm the misogynist and the racist. Wouldn't it be them for saying the horrible things about the person who is of a race and of gender? Or I don't understand. Help me. I can help you because the problem is a pretty small problem because I think we've started to see more and more. The nini audience is getting smaller. The audience that actually listens is getting bigger, not just in terms of the actual listenership, but the listener's willing to speak out and say, we've seen enough of this now. I am a black man and I listen every week. He's not a racist in any way. I've had to be.
Starting point is 06:18:27 had real racism in my life. We've had emails. We've seen tweets saying that. And then it's the same people. It's the same little white guy on Twitter saying, Cornett's a racist. He said horrible things. Which, you know, I didn't have a problem with any
Starting point is 06:18:43 of this until he started hating my wrestlers, but he's horrible. He's horrible. And then someone will say, oh yeah, I remember when he said they should put the belt on Shelton Benjamin. It doesn't matter. He doesn't matter. It's just, it's a frantic lunatic audience. And they're the ones that look bad because they're the one saying, I mean, how many comments did we see this poor Samantha Irwin, Irwin, Samantha Irvin, not Irwin.
Starting point is 06:19:06 I thought she's married to the crocodile hunter, right? That's right. Steve Irwin R. Scheister. But Samantha Irvin, a fan, said something from the video we saw after the fact of her. She seems to be someone who's a genuine wrestling fan and probably was appreciative of your comments. and then the people criticizing her for having the audacity to say thank you to you or saying worse things about her than you have ever said about anybody. It's a sickness, it's a craziness,
Starting point is 06:19:42 and I'm happy that more and more listeners are now getting directly in there and whatever you want to say, ratioing them, fighting back, filling up their comments with facts. Because seriously, fuck, this. Enough of the people that sat there eating their fucking boogers trying to dictate to everyone else how we should think, how we should live, how we should be. I'm sorry you're overly
Starting point is 06:20:06 sensitive at everything, even shit that has nothing to do with you. But go fuck yourself. Here's some advice. Get off the computer, get a fucking job, and get your dick sucked. Is that advice for me? Because I'm on the computer. I don't have a job. Jim, get off the computer. Well, two out of three ain't bad. No, that's advice. for the listeners. Not the listeners, but the ninnies out there. The ninnies. Enough of you.
Starting point is 06:20:31 The nitties, the nattering nabobes of negativity. Go to the observer board. Get off Twitter. Get the fuck out of here. Well, we say, you're losing. When we talked about the Pierce controversy, or the Adam Pierce fashion controversy, there's words it'll never be put together again.
Starting point is 06:20:50 It's not even a sizable amount of people. It's a sizable amount of Twitter accounts. It's a small amount of people with 74 accounts that for some reason, they feel the need to have to have some kind of presence in the world. You can tell whether they've got six followers and they follow 4,000 people or the picture of the Japanese anime or some Joshi or fucking AEW personality figures highly into their goddamn username to begin with. And they're the ones that just lose their fucking minds over everything and say this shit to people that they have never met, don't know anything about.
Starting point is 06:21:36 And it's somehow, you know, again, I don't even care if you go out and get a job or your dick suck. Just go out in the yard. Because that's where I went on Friday night. When this whole thing happened, I get after our clip came out. And then she thanked us for it on the tweeter machine. We're out there in the backyard, and Harley is making friends with a bird under the red bud tree. They're about five feet apart, right? And Stace takes a picture of it.
Starting point is 06:22:10 And she tweets it. Look, Harley making a bird friend. I say, you know what? I'm going to retweet that because I like it when people see pictures of my puppy. So I come up here and get on my computer, retweet the picture. I'm trending. I'm like, what the fuck? I don't even have time. Here's a picture of my dog and a bird. And then the next day, it's Saturday. The weather was beautiful. The Monroes are over, you know, continuing to build my patio that I've spoken of back there with the fire pit
Starting point is 06:22:42 and the stone and blah, blah, blah. And I had to run over and visit my cousin, Larry. For those of you who have been listening over the last several months, he's still am in health challenges, etc. And we're planning it's good weather, Stace and I are we're going to put some burgers and dogs on the goddamn grill. And there are people screaming on Twitter, using their day to scream at this poor woman who innocently thanked someone for a goddamn compliment. What the fuck is the matter with these people?
Starting point is 06:23:20 And I'm trending for three days while I'm in the backyard eating a fucking burger. How was the burger? It was lovely. It was wonderful. It was a lovely burger. I've never heard that before. It was a lovely burger. I would encourage more people to have more burgers and less Twitter.
Starting point is 06:23:41 But so here's the thing. Should I stop complimenting people? Or is it that I just don't compliment the people that they want me to compliment? Or how should I adjust my behavior? Should I quit saying? Good things, by pair, or should I quit saying bad things? Or what about if we just instruct all the people who don't like anything that I say or don't like any of the various things that I say to put their lips together around my penis and blue?
Starting point is 06:24:14 And then that would accomplish some element of the dick-sucking you were talking about while at the same time I would be the beneficiary of saying. I've seen some of these people. Good luck with that. Have fun. Have fun over there. a dark era of Castle Cornette. It's a blowjob era.
Starting point is 06:24:31 You never know. There may have to be a screening process, I guess. Or maybe some people will be invited to choose a surrogate. It's not like the glory days behind the dumpster. It's a different scene nowadays. It's a different scene. It's a different scene in this modern environment. It's not like when you can just go back behind the dumpster and everything.
Starting point is 06:24:58 was there. All right. No, but you know what? The big thing, the big takeaway, though, I think. And again, it makes me really happy. The listeners get it. And you're seeing more and more of them speak out because they enjoy the show. We come at them twice a week. We give them more content than just about anyone could reasonably ask for. We're there a lot. They listen to a lot of us. They hear everything we say. They don't agree with everything we say. But they listen to the show and they enjoy it. And when they see these people who don't listen, have preconceived notions about you, don't like you purely because you don't like their wrestling or won't give it a chance.
Starting point is 06:25:31 In some cases, just as absurd as you make jokes about wrestlers. Those people, it feels like that's a diminishing audience, and we're seeing a whole new error of growth and a whole new error of the listeners willing to say, fuck you, leave us alone. We like this. It's better than everything else. Well, is it actually Tony Kahn and his merry band of pranksters
Starting point is 06:25:56 validating our comments by performing same every week on television to their dwindling audience who may be starting to agree more and more with us and a variety of other listeners that feel the same way. That what the fuck? Straighten your shit out. See, that's a large part of the resentment
Starting point is 06:26:17 from a certain segment of the audience. It is that when AEW started in 2019 from the jump, Jim Cornett is wrong. This proves Jim Cornett wrong. Jim Cornett's wrong. And then in five years, it slowly started, well, you know, he's right about a few things here. Or, well, you know, I don't like all the things he says in terms of the names, but he has some good points. Or, you know, I listen every week now, and he's right.
Starting point is 06:26:48 I don't even watch AEW anymore. Well, it wasn't like anybody had to be the ghost of Nostradamus to predict some of the things that would happen based on some of the people involved and traditional rules of thumb of the wrestling business that most of the time when somebody's never done something before, chances are they're not going to fucking knock it out of the park in the goddamn national television show from day one. Or, you know, the legless boy on the first pay-per-view was the Canary and Nicole.
Starting point is 06:27:19 mine, I think. But it's not only their company also, but we've, honestly, what have we've been saying since we've been doing this program? The WW, and when AEW started, the WW had been practically laying down and inviting somebody to come and challenge them for a while because they had made themselves the company, the evil empire, the promotion itself, more or often than not, because of events, either on TV or in real life at various points, was fucking heal. And they didn't like his creative because his mind had melted and whatever, I mean, you know, adolescent fantasies that he started working out when he was in his fucking 70s,
Starting point is 06:28:15 ruined the TV show and nobody was a star and it was ble. The time was, they were giving it to an opposition promotion to at least get a leg up at that point on a silver platter. And Tony comes, he gets the leg up and he, like in a fucking Three Stooges movie, he goes all the way over the fence and lands with his head in a bucket of yellow paint. And now the WWE, you can see the visual. I can. I kind of want to. I kind of wish Tony would be willing to do some silent film or something. Allie, whoop?
Starting point is 06:28:48 And the The WWE is the goddamn new era with a baby face legend, triple H in charge of creative and a goddamn multi-billion dollar conglomerate behind it.
Starting point is 06:29:07 They're going around the world. They're international yacht brokers from Toulon, France, and the opposition has been reduced to a local yokel at the goddamn Jacksonville Kmart. And that's, you know, and we say if WWE wasn't a heel and Vince wasn't pissing so many
Starting point is 06:29:26 the fucking fans off, then that would be better for their business, which it has turned out to have been. And we said if Tony would put some people who actually knew what the fuck they were doing in charge of booking and picking talent instead of the all-friends network, then that would help them. And that's come to pay. So, but those that weren't hard things. to figure out it's just that nobody was willing to come out and tell them fucking truth. Because everybody wanted to take the billionaire's fucking money.
Starting point is 06:29:56 God damn it. And now we're sitting here hoping there'll be a third well-financed national promotion somehow. Yeah, when I'm 80 fucking four, they'll get another chance at this. Well, there it is, Jim. I guess we should say volume one, because I'm sure the trending won't stop. I think we already have some clips for volume two ready to go. But any final thoughts on your trending years? Well, I think actually that the trend is that I will continue trending every time that I tell the truth about someone,
Starting point is 06:30:23 because the truth is the only trend that we have here on the program, and some people can't handle the trends or the truth. Is that clear? I think that's somewhat clear, or maybe not at all, but find out more on the experience and the drive-thru wherever you find your favorite podcast for Jim Cornett. I'm the great Brian last. Tell me, go!

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