Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Drive Thru Special - The Worst Of AEW Omnibus, Volume 2

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again, friends. And you are our friends. The great Brian last here. You there, we are back with another omnibus. We are on the bus once again. And once again, we are talking about the worst of AEW, Volume 2, led by this man, the leader of the Cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim Cornett. Well, you know, Brian, the folks called it.
Starting point is 00:00:23 The Cult of Cornett listeners out there, they called it when we put out volume one. They said, wait a minute, how the heck. You can't possibly jam all of that content from the worst of AEW into one single omnibus, even if that thing was a double-decker. So we've had by popular demand, we've gone back and this is all-new best or worst. Well, it's not all-new because we did it before, but it's an all-new compilation of more worst things in AEW. That's right. The best of you talking about the worst of them. The fake walls and the subpar talent and the questionable content and disappearing celebrities and disappearing talent, as we'll come to find out.
Starting point is 00:01:16 There's a lot of people we're going to talk about. They ought to be on the goddamn FBI Federal Witness Protection Program or something. Nobody can find them. Perhaps they are already a part of that program. and of course we'll hear a lot of names and a lot of things from the past, even some recent stuff, this is volume two, volume one was very popular, volume three, you're definitely not going to hear before the holidays, so enjoy these two right now. But it may end up being like roots, a mini series of six or more episodes.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'm expecting at least 12 volumes altogether, but we will see what happens. Let's get to it now. Volume two, Jim Cornett's the worst of AEW omnibus. And then here comes the main event. Jelly Nutella versus John Moxley. What did you say about when people say, well, Janella tries hard? Well, no, one of the frequent things I've seen.
Starting point is 00:02:10 You know, he said Janella works hard. I'm sorry, I've called your line. Dave Meltzer. And again, I like Dave. I don't like him anymore, so go ahead. We have some disagreement. No, you don't mean that, but we have some disagreements. Actually, I do, but it's all right.
Starting point is 00:02:23 We have some disagreements about modern wrestling. I've known him longer and you've been alive. So I'm allowed not to like him more. You have, you have, but he says always, I mean, I've seen it a few times, Jelly works hard. And I said, he tries hard. He doesn't work hard. And if this is working hard, it's pathetic. And I know there's a lot of people out there, and a lot of them, funny enough, seem to personally know Jelly Nitella, who will defend his work.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It is garbage. He's a fucking garbage indie wrestler. And I mean that in the worst possible way. He doesn't belong on national TV. He isn't good enough to be on national TV. He looks horrible. I didn't realize just how small he was until this week. But he's also, he's in there with Moxley, who looks like a fucking wrestler.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Who should have been? And Moxley is not that big, but once again, he looked like fucking Justin Roberts looked like Andre next to fucking jelly. Oh my God, is he awful? So, anyway, this seriously was a, TV main event on national television. Moxley didn't give him too much. He kept control of it mostly.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It wasn't as bad as it could have been. But just watching Jelly try to do shit that's above him and not doing it well or just the fact that they couldn't have made this a six-minute squash in the middle of the program, but they are in a wrestling ratings war. And this was their television main event. And then Jelly goes up at the top and does the big dive, but the camera completely missed it. The cameras on Moxley, tight on Moxley. on the floor and suddenly Jelly just drops in out of the ceiling and they go through the fucking table.
Starting point is 00:04:03 And then Jelly hits a sloppy elbow off the top rope. And I had just written that Moxley was starting to devalue himself by taking so long to beat this schlub. And then finally he hit his finish one, two, three. And at that point, here comes Jericho in the inner circle entrance
Starting point is 00:04:20 and my DVR cut off. That was pretty much it. They kind of came up there similar to how Moxley comes out, but the inner circle, the show ended with the inner circle, Jericho mainly, in the crowd and Moxley in the ring. To set up, you know, and obviously he named Moxley several times when he was going through his list. So the building up for Moxley versus Jericho. Well, I'm going to say this right now from the Louisville Lip point two,
Starting point is 00:04:47 not Muhammad Ali, but Jim Cornett. AEW, if you're going to do shows this abysmal, you need to send me free peptobismal. Because fuck this gave me indigestion. I had the sour belches all night after watching these programs. And I'm hereby calling the official, if, if, if all elite wrestling does not immediately sign more than a handful of new talent and revamp their booking strategy,
Starting point is 00:05:15 I call time of death on all elite wrestling dynamite as a television series April 15th, 2020. Interesting. If they have not. done anything to make this program different, i.e. better and more accessible to a mainstream wrestling fan instead of the same circle jerkin fucking indie fucking crowd that likes this fucking SNL parody shit and these video game matches. If they do not broaden their tent and get in a structured booking plan with one person in charge, none of the current people, and
Starting point is 00:05:54 an influx of new talent, there is no way that they will be drawing ratings, nor will T&T want to provide them a time slot past April 15th for this fucking program. And it ain't going to fucking grow if they don't change anything. It may drop, but it ain't going to fucking grow. And I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:16 If I'm wrong, if April 15th, 2020 comes and they are doing another half a rating point, or another rating point, or they are starting to sell out these run-of-the-mill TVs now or reality hasn't set in in some other way, then I will apologize. But if they're doing the same or worse, which I predict they will be by April 15th, then I will not apologize. And I think the T&T will be seriously looking for a, we're paying you for production to fucking do a show that drops every week and a people say is fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:06:52 you're even now seeing some of the big AEW defenders they have to admit it now like yeah this show wasn't that good or yeah this this angle wasn't that good the angle they don't do angles this match wasn't you know always cracked up to be they think angles is guys running in the ring and beating each other up they think that's an angle
Starting point is 00:07:13 because you get with the exception of Cody none of them have ever worked next to or alongside a major fucking wrestling mind and it shows. And the reason why is because most major wrestling minds wouldn't want to work alongside any of these people. Which is why this is the first time you're ever seeing them on TV because nobody wanted to take that chance before
Starting point is 00:07:39 and put this collection of fucking dog and pony show fuck wits on television. You need strong leadership. That's the thing. They have no leadership. They have a bunch of guys who want to do different things and someone who's saying yes and allowing it to happen. And that's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:07:57 What happens if all of a sudden, Kenny Olivier or the Bucks get neutered? If all of a sudden, look, we want you guys to keep working here, obviously, but we don't want you to handle any more booking. How are they going to react to it? They're not really known for reacting well to not getting what they want. I do what I won't. But then it was saved because guess what happened right at 830, right at prime, bottom of the hour channel switching time.
Starting point is 00:08:26 guess what happened, Brian? I don't recall the order of events. Two nationally unknown young lady wrestlers were on their way to the ring on TNT at 830 after a 30-minute fucking tag team match where they did it backwards. So this show already was in the fucking drink. But, I mean, talk to me about the fucking tag team match.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I mean, I'll repeat what I said. I think last week, I'm finally interested in Adam Page. They still haven't explained exactly what this dynamic with him and Omega is. I said it last week. It just seems like Adam Page has a drinking problem and Kenny's his sober friend, hoping that he somehow can get him back to being the person he was. And new tag team champions,
Starting point is 00:09:18 in terms of the overall picture, it does create an interesting dynamic where the team that everyone thought would be the champions coming into AW, the Young Bucks, there, I guess Adam Page is also in their elite group. Now, two other members of the elite of the tag team champion, so where does that lead you? You know, despite the fact, despite what you think of the individual wrestlers, it is an interesting dynamic. It's just the book he doesn't always explain everything or why things are happening or where
Starting point is 00:09:45 things are going. Well, now that you brought it up all like that, no, um, all right, but anyway, here comes. We finally get to see Priscilla Kelly, the tampon girl. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, she pulled what was purported to be her used, tampon out at a show in a dive bar and shoved in another girl's mouth to get on the internet. This is who they're hiring over on TNT. Darby Allen's wife. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So nepotism and all the other isms. I said earlier that after seeing Priscilla Kelly, Tony Storm looks like Chagusa Nagayo, Britt Baker morphed into Mildred Burke. they have Britt Baker has I think pretty much been winless as a single on their air and Priscilla Kelly has never been seen before
Starting point is 00:10:36 on national television and they start them out at 830 and then immediately go to a break after Priscilla Kelly and this is the first thing I wrote Priscilla Kelly can't lock up the first move of the match when she goes to lock up with Britt Baker I swear to God she would have been screamed
Starting point is 00:10:55 at by Dr. Tom Pritchard in wrestling school. The girl couldn't lock up and here we go and now we're going through a break. And on the other side it was bad indie girl wrestling. And finally, Britt Baker gets a win over somebody that's not even ready to fucking work spot shows on this national television program. I've been championing Brit Baker. She's an American.
Starting point is 00:11:22 She speaks English. People will actually like her, like, she is attractive and she's professional and she can do PR because she speaks the language. Unlike, she's a dentist and a professional woman, gives the kid, young girl somebody to look up to,
Starting point is 00:11:40 play off of this, get mainstream publicity. What do they do, Brian? They're not only switching her heel. They didn't tell her how to be a heel. Have you ever seen anybody? twisting in the wind on television on an interview like that in your life.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Literally in the wind. In the wind on a boat. And by the way, I guess we should have mentioned, yes, they're on the Jericho cruise. The boat, the 60 mile an hour wins. If the WWE was going to do a wrestling show on a boat, it wouldn't have looked like this. For any other promotion to do a wrestling show on a boat. a boat. That's a cool thing. But when you're a promotion that's saying
Starting point is 00:12:29 not only you're going head to head with the WWE, but you're going to kick their ass before you ever even get on the air. That's what they were saying. No, this looked like a wrestling show on a boat, not like a WWE event on a boat would look is all I'm saying. And the Fad, JR came wear his fucking hat. The wind's blowing. And
Starting point is 00:12:48 it was like Tony, I don't know, Tony Shavani's voice sounded shot. He has too many jobs, I think. he's wearing himself thin. She not only says he was a shitty barista at Starbucks, apparently we can say shitty now on T&T, and there wasn't there one or two goddams. But this was a bad wrestling school promo
Starting point is 00:13:14 that you would take somebody off the street and say, act like a wrestling heel. And this is what she was doing. It was no, not only was it not in any rate, way realistic or where did this come from or what the fuck after the past four months why she's suddenly this bitch but it didn't make any sense and she never got to a point it was like they had told her something she went completely blank started trying to be a heel had no idea how to and right in the middle of her meandering jr says why we don't need to hear any more of this we'll be
Starting point is 00:13:46 right back and it's a tape show and they still cut it off what the fuck i felt bad for her but why is she in this why did they bring this girl into company if they're going to the only marketable female that they've had um that they could have started with that they've they've beat her to death with all the japanese school girls they've made the then the other american girls are now more impressive than she is because they've had better showcases she finally gets a win but now they're turning her heel of and she doesn't know how to do that to be one. And somebody finally gets a fucking promo. Oh, God, damn it. Anyway, we're 45 minutes into this fucking thing. And that's what we've seen. You know, after the angle where they poured the beer on Omega's head,
Starting point is 00:14:42 it was a lot of beer. All I'm thinking is, it's going to really suck to work in that ring. After that much liquid gets on the mat. Little did I know what was coming next. All right. Chris Jericho gets in the ring with Sammy Hagar and Jake Hager. He wishes. He was Santa and Ortiz.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I don't know which one. Hager wishes he was Sammy Hagar or Jericho wishes he was in a ring with Sammy Hagar. Either one. He was in the ring with Sammy Hagar. Absolutely. I wrote, they need Guevara back bad, that slapable face of his. He was a lot of the life in this thing. And here's where we got a.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Chris Jericho, I know he's almost 50. I've liked Chris. And I'm just so disappointed in what Chris has done to himself and become. I know he's almost 50. He can't work a full schedule, but he can still go seriously with talent once in a while. So he didn't want to stay with Vince and work an occasional match with top stars. He wanted to take more money to come over here and destroy his fucking reputation and legacy.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Is it the money the thing? or is he just he is he's obviously done with wrestling does he want to be the host of america's got talent does he want somebody to cast him in a sketch comedy show he doesn't care about his reputation or what he's done in the wrestling business now he he's fully embraced this for what fucking purpose what can his motivation be to at first i could see where before we saw what has happened i could see where he wants to be the guy to make
Starting point is 00:16:26 a difference and elevate young guys into stardom and be the flagship guy on a brand new wrestling program. But now that it's, we're seeing what he's doing, he hasn't elevated them. They have plunged him down to their level. He has submerged past the outlaw guys in terms of silliness and hokeyness and I winking at people. So did he first have the thought, I'll be a guy that makes a difference, I'll be the flagship guy on the show, I'll elevate people, and then see that that was not going to happen
Starting point is 00:17:00 and just decide to go for the job as the host of a sketch comedy show? Or what is he fucking thinking? You know, the last few months have really, you know, because he was great. The first few months, the Cody feud and then into the Moxley stuff, there were some moments that were, I hate to say it now, but typical Chris Jericho, bad comedy, stupid skits that you would see on WWE TV, like the party. with his dad there and various other things. But it wasn't every week and it wasn't in the match.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And then the next week it would be something really great with him. However, this year in the last several months, he's had a feud with Matt Hardy and Matt Hardy's drone. And he went from that into a feud with Orange Cassidy. And I think it's, look, Chris Jericho has been blessed with bad sensibilities for a long time. And he always wants to latch on to whatever he thinks the hot thing in the businesses. and you could say he wants to elevate it. I actually think a lot of the times it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:17:59 He wants to just get the attention from it. Remember, I killed him when he had that match with AJ Siles or WrestleMania years ago. AJ had just come in. He was the hottest thing in the WWE. And then he lost to Chris Jericho who looked shot at WrestleMania. He sees the reaction Orange Cassidy gets.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Despite whatever you think and whatever I think and whatever all the other soulless fans think, Orange Cassidy with their fan base is popular. Orange Cassidy sells a lot of merchandise to their fan base. See, I'm not buying that because Chris Jericho is smart enough to know that just their fan base of people who like the Gaga and the joke is not going to be what they need over the long run. He was there specifically to get real wrestling fans, long time wrestling fans. He has a name from a real wrestling program. That was supposed to be his job.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That should have been his job. Instead of cuddling up to the joke guy that the only people that like him are the people that are already watching to begin with. Look, eventually Tony Bennett got to a point where no one was going to pay attention to his new material. So he had to do his duet stuff with any contemporary artist he could find that he could latch on to. All of whom were happy to work with him because they respected his team. tenure and talent. And that's Chris Jericho right now in AEW. He sees that Orange Cassidy is happening with that fan base.
Starting point is 00:19:29 He wants to be a part of it. And Jerry. And if Sunny Kiss, somehow, if that Sunny Kiss segment does an amazing rating and they bring him back next week and it does an amazing rating and he sells a bunch of merch in the next few weeks, he'll be working with Chris Jericho in a month. I guarantee it.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Damn it. Oh, fuck. All right. Well, anyway, in this interview with Jericho and his men, he actually cut a promo talking about winning the fucking demographic last week. Without saying NXT's name,
Starting point is 00:20:05 he talked about him and old pockets there, which by the way, I thought they were, uh, fucking, they, did their match itself? Was that the high point of the rating or the demographic or whatever? I don't.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Well, whatever the fuck. I'm fairly certain it wasn't the high point of the rating. It may have won the demo versus NXT. Yeah, the point is we have to get this minute with it. NXT had more people watching. So he's out there doing a bragging about winning the demographic like Tony Khan was bragging about winning the demographic, which is a nice way of saying,
Starting point is 00:20:42 we've shot 900,000 fucking people that were watching this goddamn program at the start of it. And NXT has now started kicking our ass. but we still won a demographic of such and such people between the age of such and such living in a town with an R in it. It was fucking embarrassing and said no rematch for Pockets.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And then Pockets came out to interrupt, but he didn't interrupt because he can't speak because he's fucking mute. And then this went forever with Jericho telling Pockets off. And finally Pockets gave a thumb down and orange juice fell from the ceiling onto the heels and while Jericho pitched a fit about his jacket I used to call Ortiz of LAX Pampiro Furpo Jr because I like keeping Pampiro Furpo's name out there but he's an embarrassment to Pampiro Furpo and I don't think I can call him that
Starting point is 00:21:43 anymore because he just it was okay a heel can take a bump in the liquid right and then he purposely couldn't stand up for a full minute taking bumps and rolling around and dog paddling in it to make sure everybody knew that it was fucking gaga. It was stupid. Stupid. This guy needs to be beat with a fucking stick. And I'm sorry, when people are saying,
Starting point is 00:22:06 well, Santana and Ortiz, they're a top quality in what fucking universe, in what wrestling school, is this goddamn clown and his partner a fucking great team when all he does is fucking make everything goofy. And Santana did one interview that one time,
Starting point is 00:22:24 I said, this guy could be a fucking star, and they've buried him ever since. I've never heard him speak again. Yeah, I think he's all right. I think Santana isn't the problem. By the way, major respect for representing Hector LeVoe on your shirt there. But Ortiz, he isn't good in the ring. He's over...
Starting point is 00:22:41 I'd rather represent Marie LeVoe. Well, he isn't... He's overly goofy in his best of moments. I mean, remember a lot of those early promos where he kept sticking his tongue out? Yeah. And he's ridiculous. And then this, like you said,
Starting point is 00:22:58 someone, even if all, that whole group, all four of them took a bump in that liquid one time, that works. But the idea they're all standing there and he's flopping around like a baby deer. Well, he got how to stand up. He was trying to get his partner to, he was reaching for his partner,
Starting point is 00:23:13 try to get his partner to grab him so he could pull him down and Santana's like, get the fuck away from me, you know. Just so, fuck. stupidity stupidity stupidity but and let me say this orange cassidy he's probably the smartest guy in the entire business you know you have to actually say that i do you and i agree and now that he is for a generic bland looking pale white guy wearing t-shirt blue jeans and sneakers with no discernible talent can't cut a promo, his whole gimmick is that he does nothing. And he somehow suckered these people into giving him a job and paying him.
Starting point is 00:23:57 He's better, he's smarter than Kevin Nash. You know, I think it may have been Lou Reed, and I may be wrong, but if it wasn't Lou Reed, it was one of the other Warhol people who said, you know, everyone thought we were so cool because we sat in the back of the room with our sunglasses on. They didn't realize they always think the people are cool who do nothing, who just sit there and do nothing. They have nothing going on. They seem the coolest because they have nothing going on. But in actuality, they want something to be going on.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Orange Cassie, smartest guy in the business. And I was worried about people working in that ring after the beer. Obviously, they tape this on another night or something. They could have fucking rolled the goddamn canvas off during a commercial break. That was a lot of liquid. And by the way, major props to Orange Cassidy for being in cahoots with whoever is running the, uh, whoever, the special effects. Yeah. Who is that guy? Why doesn't Jericho go beat up that guy? I don't know. Well, I'm sure, you know, and by the way, when did they give a shit stain a job? Because they just, they actually just stole a fucking Russo angle from 20 years ago. Except instead of blood from the brood, it's orange juice.
Starting point is 00:25:15 from fucking my little dog pockets. Now, let me ask you something, because I've made this complaint many times that this is WWE, this is their version of WWE. I will make that again. Do you think it's a fair statement? This is a bunch of guys
Starting point is 00:25:28 who want to do their own version of WWE doing it here. This isn't, someone on Twitter said this and it was brilliant. They said, I wanted an alternative to WWE, not alternative WWE. And that's what this is. This is an alternative WWE.
Starting point is 00:25:46 This is low-budget, outlaw indie mud show bullshit from guys who have been somehow convinced that they can take over the wrestling world from the WWE. And this is what they do. And there's a few smart guys in the middle
Starting point is 00:26:06 that are milking a billionaire for a lot of money for a job that they have to do very little at. And to your earlier question about Jericho, Another reason why he's happy to be here is he doesn't have Vince McMahon saying, no, we're not going to do any of your stupid ideas for us. I like you. I want to push you. If these were any of the ideas, I can see where that was happening.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And then here comes Matt Hardy and did the promo as himself. And we were talking about this a week or two ago. He said he's going to start being himself. He said, the one line, we listened to our audience. apparently a lot of people listen to this program also. They don't hear it sometimes, but they listen to it because they've taken some suggestions. But they said, he said, the people want Matt Hardy to be Matt Hardy, and of course they do. They don't want him to teleport from ice machines or be 3,000 years old or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:02 They want Matt Hardy to be Matt Hardy. And he praised private party to close that little deal up. And then he started talking about Sammy Guevara, told him he had originally liked it. Sammy, but he needed to get away from Jericho and Sammy wouldn't listen. So then he talked about Sammy Guvar coming out and attacking him from under the ring and making his reappearance after he was putting a time out for being a bad boy on a podcast by the principal.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Here's the problem I had with it. I love Matt Hardy by himself and he did a good promo. Not by himself. Matt Hardy as himself. A real person. He did a good promo. Did you catch what they did? with Sammy Guevara that just blew the whole fucking thing? I'm not sure. Matt Hardy is in the ring talking about Sammy Guevara, talking about how he came out from under the ring and attacked him before
Starting point is 00:28:00 and how he's going to get even with it and he's not going to get away with it. And while Matt Hardy's in the ring with the floor camera on him and they can cut back to the play by play camera, the handheld guy, the floor camera guy, handheld, same thing, standing in the ring, shooting Matt Hardy. They've got the play by play camera, which is the hard camera. which is the hard camera up on the locked position in the stands, they can shoot that.
Starting point is 00:28:21 But for no reason, another handheld down on the floor was shooting the exact spot behind Matt Hardy and down below the ring that Sammy Guvar was going to come out from under the ring in this instance. So as soon as he came out from under the fucking apron skirt, within one second, the camera, they already had the shot, and they just switched to it. there was no reason for them to have a camera shot of that part of the ring
Starting point is 00:28:51 for any other purpose than to see Sammy Guevara coming out from under it. So why did they know? And all you've got to goddamn do is just when Matt is ready for Sammy to come out, he gives the verbal cue about, Sammy, I don't care if there's one person in this whole arena or 10,000, and they go the wide shot to see it, I'm still going to kick you.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And you see Sammy coming out from under the side of the ring in the background right then, because that's his verbal cue, and that's also the director's cue. And then they've got an excuse to whip a fucking handheld around real quick. My God, there's Sammy Guava. And then he rolls in a ring, and Matt says,
Starting point is 00:29:37 I knew you'd come and turns around and meets him. Boom. And it wouldn't have looked fucking staged, would it? But they can't fucking. bother to put that much work into it. So then they get in a fucking fight. And Matt beats Sammy up on the floor
Starting point is 00:29:52 and he slams him through the table or into the table and hits him of this and that and the other thing. And then as Matt is setting up the table, he's going to apparently put Sammy through when he's already slammed him on the fucking time keeper's table anyway, but Sammy Guavara posts Matt
Starting point is 00:30:12 from behind, boom, to stop him and then goes over and I don't know what the fuck I have never I've seen guys get potatoed and respond like this but for no fucking blood coming from Sammy Guevara's face no fucking bone broken no injury that I could ascertain why he did this I have no idea he grabbed a chair and whipped it as hard and as fast as he possibly could could straight into Matt Hardy's fucking face. There was no way to work that. And some idiot is going to say, well, it was one of those plastic chairs.
Starting point is 00:30:54 It wasn't real heavy, you dumb fucking idiot, you don't throw anything that fast towards somebody's face that has shit sticking out of it and is an irregular fucking shape. It's got legs. It's got a back. You don't know how it's going to fucking twirl and spin, whatever the fuck. Was that the most irresponsible thing that you have. I don't know if ever, because I've seen a lot of things. That was one of the most irresponsible things I've ever seen in my life in a fucking match anywhere.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I've never seen anything like that with a chair and wrestling. And I don't know what is. I mean, I've seen a few being thrown by guys at fucking marks that were trying to come in the ring. It looked like that where they were really trying to hurt someone badly, quickly and on purpose. But I've never seen one of the boys do that to somebody else. I don't know what so a point is. Naturally enough, Matt Hardy gets a fucking gash in his head that I guess they said on Twitter took 18 stitches to close.
Starting point is 00:31:56 The pictures of it didn't look good. It looked like an axe wound. And then Sammy Guvar while Matt is laying there and there's already a giant puddle of blood under his head while he's laying on the fucking, well, first, when he took the chair, you can see him feel two or three times like did this dumb motherfucker just fucking give me impromptu brain? surgery and then he's selling and there's a puddle of blood under his head and then Sammy Guevara comes off the stage and doesn't just doesn't just splash him through the table but has to do a fucking flip with a twist and a half gainer to put him through the table so he's already busted his head open and now he lands extra hard on him just to do that little cute little twist I'm going to say
Starting point is 00:32:42 this right now when I heard what Sammy Guevara said on the podcast if I'd have been the boss of the company. I'd have called him in the office. I said, what the fuck? That wasn't even a goddamn double entendre. That wasn't a fucking joke. You're a goddamn idiot, but it was four years ago, and you're a goofy kid. So I'm going to find you a thousand dollars. I'm going to give it to the fucking women's shelter and just don't say anything else again. I wouldn't have suspended him or made him go through bullshit sensitivity training that does nothing for anybody. It just satisfies a requirement. And you're just madder once you go through it than you are at the start. if I'd have seen him throw that chair at Matt Hardy like that,
Starting point is 00:33:21 I would have fucking suspended him for six months. That's something you suspend a motherfucker for. That was careless and reckless and unnecessary and dangerous and hurt a fucking veteran that's trying to get this kid over. So his fucking, I want to rape Sasha Banks. I'd have fined him and told him not to fucking say stupid shit again. For what he did there,
Starting point is 00:33:45 I would have fucking suspended him if I didn't fucking fire him. I wouldn't fire him. I'd bring him back to get his ass beat. Then I might fire him. That was fucking ridiculous. So, glad to know we got our priorities in the right place. Guy says something stupid on a podcast four years ago. Let's suspend him for a month, cost him a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:34:05 make him sit through a bunch of fucking classes that ain't going to teach him anything. Guy caves a fucking 30-year veterans head in, causes him to bleed out on national TV. He can just apologize. What the fuck is the matter with that? everybody anymore. No wonder I don't want to have anything to do with this shit. But, meanwhile, well, wait, did you have any comments about Matt Hardy's attempted fucking prefrontal lobotomy at the hands of Sammy Guevara? Well, I kind of addressed, you know, I've never seen
Starting point is 00:34:36 anyone use a chair like that. I thought Sammy did a pretty spectacular trick on the Matt Hardy on the table, but like I said, I'm, I've said it before, I just don't want to see Matt Hardy anymore. I'm done with Matt Hardy. There's nothing he can. can say or do that will interest me. I've seen it all. He's done it all. I don't care about this feud. I don't look forward to seeing this.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Well, now there might be a receipt coming up. It might get interesting after this. I just don't care. Matt Hardy was a big mistake as a saying. I want to see Matt Hardy. I didn't want to see fucking Beatrice Arthur or Damascus or, you know, the time traveling dude or whatever the fuck. And I hope it's not too late where people don't feel the same as you do.
Starting point is 00:35:19 and they want to see Matt Hardy because it's Matt Hardy instead of fucking whatever, the foolishness. But did you notice this? Even when given an impromptu and unexpected gift, because let's face it, a baby face bleeding like that after an angle, wouldn't you have sent the doctor to ringside? Wouldn't you have called some audibles? Wouldn't you have said, hey, let's somebody go down and help him and maybe we'll get a stretcher and let's shoot some more of this blood because that looks, let's see it pumping out of his head because that way all the people that think this is all bullshit will go, how the
Starting point is 00:35:49 did they do that that's really coming out of his head a cut like that you can wipe it and it'll fucking start shooting and they'll see it they'll see it looks like a gaping pussy on his forehead doctors and and paramet people with compresses and ice packs and let's let the announcers walk over there and see what the fuck's going on it's not like on this program especially we're not seeing anything really good at the expense of stopping down and making a big deal out of this But I swear to fucking Christ, I don't even know if anybody had taken Matt Hardy's pulse yet or not before they cut away
Starting point is 00:36:28 from Matt Hardy of wrestling legend bleeding to death to cover the destruction in the parking lot of the mid-card or preliminary baby-faced mother's minivan. Let's talk about the next one. Because the last man standing match, where the last man standing, pretty much couldn't stand up. I thought this was supposed to be a match.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I didn't know they were going to do the football field and concourse thing for this also. Did I miss that or did they just decide to do this? Was it advertised as a match and then they just decided to do the location fight? I only saw it as a match and before you even go any further, let me ask you, because I was trying to think of it and I couldn't come up with the answer. We just uploaded it to the YouTube channel, the video of your review for the tables, match they had a couple weeks ago on dynamite. I know they've been feuding.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I know there was the incident where Hardy got busted open with the chair. He was trying to be friends with Sammy early on. Maybe they haven't. I don't remember. Have they had just a straight up one-on-one match without stipulations or anything? I don't think so. Maybe they'll have that next week. It's a perfect blow-off match.
Starting point is 00:37:44 No stipulations, just two guys wrestling. So they step mats on the out near the football football football. they're in the concourse of the empty arena Sammy Guevara shows up in a golf cart and I wrote more of this shit and I don't even know how to comment on this these matches because they're not matches so within what a couple minutes
Starting point is 00:38:07 they're fighting around over the tables and the garbage cans into whatever the fuck and they get on top of a forklift was one of them while they're fighting up there was one of them operating it because the forklift starts going up I guess. So now they're both forklift experts.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Would you know if you got on a forklift how to raise a forklift up? Much less if you were in a fight at the time. I've never been on a forklift, so I couldn't. All right. I have no idea. So because there's a table conveniently below there where there's all the mass that they're selling, all the fans that ain't coming in the building
Starting point is 00:38:46 without mass and they tried to say, well, for the fans who come in without mass, without mass. Well, there's 500 mass laid out. There's only 500 fucking fans allowed in the building, blah, blah, blah. They got a table there so that they can raise the forklift up and tease taking a bump off of it, because everybody wants to see that. And then Sammy Guvarro will spear
Starting point is 00:39:06 Matt Hardy off the fork lift and through the table. Which he did. And they missed the fucking table. Well, they broke it with their lower bodies. The back of Matt Hardy's head hit from better than 10 feet up in the air on the concrete floor with Guvarr on top of him
Starting point is 00:39:27 and he's motionless and he's knocked a fuck out and ref Aubrey goes up and puts up the X and then she starts a 10 count and Matt of course because he's a wrestler when he comes to some of his senses is trying to get up
Starting point is 00:39:45 and is staggering and she puts up another X and Matt's going to try to keep going because as we've talked about with concussions before, we had Bobby Fulton on the show. He has finished several matches with concussions and then not remembered finishing the match or who his brother was. So just because a guy gets up and says, oh, I'm going to keep going, doesn't mean he should. Here comes Doc Sampson out and they stopped the match.
Starting point is 00:40:17 and then Matt gets up and starts wandering around looking for Sammy Guavara, but they've already stopped it and announced it. Well, that's the way it is sometimes folks, but it's better he can't continue. They went to the announcers saying this, and then after three or four minutes, they start the fight again. Somebody is, they've decided, Matt has probably told the doctor, I'm fine, I can do this. But they said he passed concussion protocol.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And they start the fight again. so that they can go immediately to a lighting tower that they climb up and Matt's Shaky, Sammy has to help him, and then so Sammy can get knocked off through a pre-planned crash area. He just takes a goddamn stuntman backwards bump into a pre-planned crash area
Starting point is 00:41:12 that couldn't hurt him at all, but yet they were earlier going to take a bump off. And the thing is, think about this. If they had done the spear off the top of the forklift through the table, right, it wasn't the finish. I am so confused and disgusted. Yes, I know Matt would want to go out. They shouldn't have been up there to begin with. They ought to be in the goddamn ring where they're supposed to be. It's fucking ridiculous. Spears off the tops of forklifts. Now they've got Matt Hardy doing shit that Marx do, that idiots do, that amateur hour goofs do, that indie garbage deathmatch guys do,
Starting point is 00:41:58 that stupid fucking bookers do with more goddamn ideas and money than they've got brains or sense that nobody apparently has any experience in this business will tell people not to fucking do because you're a fucking idiot if you want to do that. And here's why. Because they all want to be cool and keep their job. like anybody would want to work in this goddamn fiasco. So who knows whether Matt has brain damage, because the jury's still out on that,
Starting point is 00:42:32 because several times in the rest of the program, they made mention the announcers did because they were told to that, well, they only restarted that match because of the concussion protocol that Doc Sampson gave Matt Hardy because they were already catching shit on fucking Twitter. And then they sent Matt Hardy to the hospital where apparently the AEW word was, no, he's fine, no concussion. And the word from his wife was it thousand percent was a concussion.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And anybody with a fucking set of eyes can see that. So jury's still out on whether they gave poor Matt Hardy brain damage to have another garbage match on a stupid Mark's pay-per-view. What'd you think? This was the moment that I really got taken out of the show. Like I said earlier, what you said, see effects what you see next. This changed away I saw the rest of the show.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I feel really bad for Matt Hardy, although I'm sure a lot of this was something he wanted to do. It was his ideas. But it was clear that he was fucked up. I mean, it was... He couldn't stand up. He couldn't stand up. You saw him on the ground. He looked messed up. And when he did stand up, then his rubber-legged and he fell back down. And that wasn't working or selling. Beyond just the ex, just watching the body language on Aubrey, you could tell.
Starting point is 00:43:55 she knew something was wrong. And they finally ended it. And I was happy. I was like, oh, you know what? Good. You know, this guy does not need to be doing anything right now. And then they set him back out to do the finish. Which just seems like the most irresponsible decision you could make.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And I think AEW looks like shit here. Because even people who love AEW were pointing out how this is bullshit here. The guy was clearly messed up. and he passed a concussion protocol, there's something wrong with your doctor and his protocol. Well, for the only instant protocol, here, let me look in your fucking eyes. Is your pupils dilated?
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yes, no, maybe, well, we don't know. Are you concussed? No. Okay, get back out there. That was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. AEW got a lot of shit and they deserve it. After the derby spot, which was incredibly reckless,
Starting point is 00:44:52 then this happens in front of every, and then Matt's wife goes on Twitter. Obviously, she's concerned. She's watching it at home. This was really... Well, and that Darby Allen spot was completely different and even stupider because he wanted to do that. See these fucking Mark skateboard dive off high building stupid fucks?
Starting point is 00:45:14 They think that's cool. And if they're tractioned or paralyzed or whatever, it's like, oh, well, you know, because life sucks anyway, but we did it for art or whatever the fuck. But with this, here, you know, got one of your only fucking name professionals. And instead of putting him in the ring where he can teach some of these guys something and Sammy's got a lot of potential if he don't kill himself, you're having them have the same kind of garbage
Starting point is 00:45:37 match than all the rest of these jackoffs you've been conned into signing can have. Why sign fucking real pros and don't let him get in the ring? So it just is stupid on every account. Speaking of not working, the next match, We've been waiting for this one, Brian. The Mamosa Mayhem match. They literally had two 500-gallon tubs of Mimosa on either side of the ring. And to win, of course, you've got to get dumped in the Mimosa or Pender submitted like that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And this match started three hours into this fiasco, not four hours counting the pre-show, right? so it started while they were just getting started the announcers were trying to beg people at home to believe that doc sampson actually cleared mad hardy to continue because that's when everybody was on twitter going how irresponsible etc etc i'll tell you what was irresponsible leave anybody sit there for four hours through what they'd seen and then put this out in front of them i'm surprised that there wasn't somebody taking some shots at fucking jerichovid from the grassy knoll on this one for making them watch that. I mean, you know, here's the thing. You can't even talk about this as a match. It wasn't. It was a make a wish for Jericho to give pockets a thrill. It was a make a wish for Jericho to wish that he's somehow accepted by the younger
Starting point is 00:47:12 generation for doing this. And the problem I have is the baby faces in this company all act like douchebags and look like shit physically or both. and the heels are all comedians and not remotely serious. And the few talents that they have are hamstrung by not just amateur but rotten amateur booking and being mixed in with a crew of, as we've mentioned, fence post turtles that are way out of their leagues. And this is a classic example of it. Because somebody out there in Twitterland likes this fucking Creighton and thinks it's
Starting point is 00:47:53 funny, Chris Jericho has to dignify this with his presence. And I mean, you know, they didn't use the ring very much, which is fine, because why not? They fought in the stagy and contrived almost falls around the vat of orange juice. And that's the thing. If Chris had not brought this on himself, I would be sad for him. Because you are seeing a great mainstream. wrestling career ending in a fucking popcorn fart in a tub of orange juice. But he brought it on himself and he's willingly doing it for, as they used to say, for money marbles a chalk. It wouldn't make any difference.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Why? He didn't have to. So Jericho walked the idiot through a couple of spots and got the Boston crab that he's beaten the Rock or Steve Austin or Triple H or whoever with and pockets just crawled to the edge of the ring got a fucking pitcher filled it with orange juice and threw it in his face to break the hold well if only we told the rock that 20 years ago so when i saw that i fast forwarded two or three minutes and they were on the ropes and pockets knocked jericho into the fucking orange juice good fucking god three hours and 20 minutes into this fiasco plus an hour for the pre-show and we're
Starting point is 00:49:21 watching jericho swimming in orange juice i dare i double dog dare somebody within the sound of my voice take a DVD of this to Vince McMahon's house and stick it in if he's when I was there it was a VHS but if he's got the DVD player on top of his fucking TV and his goddamn den stick it in there and show it to him it'll take 10 years off his life he will say my God this is the promotion that we thought what might be competition this is the company that we actually fucking gave guys raises to keep them from going to it'll take 10 years off his fucking life and he will forever more be happy that he did not match whatever offer they gave to
Starting point is 00:50:12 chris jericho because this is a better and i'm sorry if you guys want to talk about out there you've fucking a e w all friends wrestling fans you want to talk about guys getting on tv because they've been selling out fucking park benches and goddamn phone boosts that's one thing but if you want to talk about anybody of any meaningful standing in the wrestling industry that's a veteran that has made big money that has fucking mainstream recognition this is a goddamn billboard why they will not want to go to oh a e w ever because this shit might happen to them and vince is if he's watching it he's fucking laughing at chris jericho and he's la and the only thing he ain't laughing about
Starting point is 00:50:57 is he's calling up whoever's in charge, whether it's Mark Carrano or Triple H or whoever's in charge is saying, we gave guys raises to not go here. Take them all back. What'd you think? This was trash, but that's what I expected it to be, trash. I don't think this feud has done anything to help Chris Jericho. We could argue about if it's elevated Orange Cassidy or not. I don't know where do they go with him from here.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Chris Jericho comes out of it looking worse. I think Vince McMahon gets shown the video. He's out of your title picture, isn't it? At this point? I don't know. It's AEW. Is Orange Cassidy in the title picture? I'm talking about Jericho being out of it. Now, you can't take it seriously.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I'm going to go fight fucking John Moxley. I just got beat by Orange Cassidy and dunked. This guy was so good the first several months of AEW as the world champion. it's amazing to think back that isn't that long ago it's a year ago that he was the champion and he was the top heel and he was excelling in that role now he's just garbage you know what he already feud the drone feud into the orange cassidy feud because he thought orange cassidy had something going for him and he wanted to latch on to that like he does no no no you know what had no see now we're starting to see and you're right he was great
Starting point is 00:52:29 when when this thing first started chris jericho said okay i'm going to prove i'm the fucking guy in a company even though i've been the w wf champion they never thought i was the guy i'm going to be the guy i'm going to lead this company i'm going to carry it on my back i'm going to be the champion i'm going to get a lot of guys over i'm going to cause a lot of attention and that's what he was doing at first and then he got a look at the rest of the talent and then he got to look at Tony con's booking and then he got to look at the way things were going and he said okay here's what I need to do I need to cash this check and I need to earn this money
Starting point is 00:53:10 even though I don't give a fuck that I make myself look like an idiot I'm going to at least fucking have some fun with Matt Hardy and then oh by the way who is the mark promoter the angel as we used to say in the business we found an to open up Pittsburgh. The angel, the money mark is Tony Kahn, who's his favorite goofy outlaw wrestler he signed Orange Cassidy. I'll work with him. So what he's doing is he's basically fucking, he's seen that it was a lost cause with the
Starting point is 00:53:40 booking and the rest of the talent. He couldn't, it couldn't be what he wanted it to be. So he stopped being serious and started playing along. No way. To bilk fucking Tony Kahn for the rest of his money. No way. He didn't start playing along. He's part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Oh, he's part of the problem because he's playing along. Yeah, these are his stupid ideas. He has a, yes. He has stupid sensibilities. He likes the crap he does. He's working with the money marks favorite fucking indie mud show wrestler. And he's fucking cutting promos on drones because he's seen it's hopeless. It's not going to be a serious wrestling promotion.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And he's just jacking off. He was playing along with Vince when he didn't get to do all the stupid shit he really wanted to do. And instead he went for Vince's vision. That was him playing along. This is him playing with his friends. I don't know. Regardless, there's a lot of play. And if you put that tape in for Vince, before he even laughed about the state of this match and his opponent and everything else, he's going to say what happened to Chris Jericho?
Starting point is 00:54:41 He's twice the size that he was when he was here last time. Yes, he would. He would say that, too. He would say, wait a minute, is that Sebastian Bach? No, he wouldn't because Vince doesn't know who Sebastian Bach is. Anyway. But you give Jericho a lot of credit, and I don't think he's done anything to earn that credit. What credit was I giving?
Starting point is 00:55:03 He's been involved in the absolute most embarrassing pieces of shit that I've ever seen in a wrestling business, all of it this year. Because you make it sound like he's shrugging and saying, hey, I'll just go with the flow here as opposed to, I think I have a lot of valuable contributions to this garbage show. He knows that none of this is valuable. You think he knows that? You think he said the stadium stampede match was one of the things he's most proud of in his career. Well, yeah, because the money mark fucking liked it.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I'm just telling you. He liked it. He can't be. Chris Jericho is not this stupid of a man. He's pleasing this idiot that's paying him a lot of money because he sees that it can't be done in a serious fashion because they don't have the fucking resources or the talent or the backing. That's just what I'm saying. So he's just jacking off. But he knows better. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But I, you and I disagree about whether he's playing along or whether he's. he's having a good time doing what he finally, all the things he wanted to do. He'd never wanted to. All right. Okay. You don't think Chris Jericho wakes up in the morning. It says, I wish I could just be thrown into a vat of mimosa. I guarantee you, he has had that thought before.
Starting point is 00:56:15 So the final match of the evening. And maybe if it was Moscow mules, Jim Ross would have been a little more excited about this event. Hey, uh, come on now. Actually, maybe, maybe every, if they'd have thrown everybody in a vat of Moll. Moscow, Moscow mules. The matches might have been better. It couldn't have been any worse. Lance Archer did a promo about John Moxley,
Starting point is 00:56:35 and they did a good job. They can be serious. It's Archer and Moxley next week. And then, I hate it when I have to destroy friendships. Our boys have made a serious error. Our boys have made a drastic mistake. This is what it's come to.
Starting point is 00:56:59 This is what, F-T-R is going to have to live with from now on. They're not changing AEW to become more professional like them. AEW is changing them to be part of the goddamn clown show like the rest of them. They got nobody to work with. They don't have anybody to be matched with
Starting point is 00:57:19 that understands how to fucking work. And they've got, except for Kazarian and Sky and Daniels, any combination of that trilogy, they don't have any fucking athletes to goddamn work with. So hybrid two, Jack Evans and Angelico. I've seen Jack Evans since he was in Ring of Honor years ago. I'm surprised he's still able to walk. I don't know where Angelico came from. I assume there's not a lot of food there because he's so skinny. He uses Cheerios for hula hoops.
Starting point is 00:57:57 from the time they come in the ring Evans and Angelico When Angelico does that dance and thing he does When he gets in the ring He was doing it as he walked to the ring Yes, as he walked to the ring I wrote I wish he was in a motorcade And I was on a grassy knoll
Starting point is 00:58:15 Oh come on That's just instant fucking heat with me It just and the young bucks We're watching the monitor in the back Over their shoulders with their backs turned But they're turning over watching it and they got pissy looks on her face. Raw style.
Starting point is 00:58:30 That's the way you watch TV on Raw, where you're facing one way, the TV's facing another way. They're learning. Did you hear Tony Chivani, who was double super kicked last week by the young bucks, referring to them, he seems to be just fine,
Starting point is 00:58:47 and he says, well, I'm not going to hold a grudge. I always liked them. What the, but then why did they even do that? If he's next week, he's back,
Starting point is 00:58:57 he's fine, not even holding a grudge. So I wrote as it started, how can this match work? Because this match can't work. Because two of the people in this match can't work. And seconds later,
Starting point is 00:59:17 Jack Evans had slipped or stumbled on three different kinds of flips. Angelico got in the ring and he looked like if Jim neighbors as Gomer Pyle had suddenly been stretched out to six feet six and lost 60 pounds, then
Starting point is 00:59:36 FTR starts out trying to do these idiot shit instead of having their own match and making the underneath guys that are there to put them over conform to their style they're trying to be charitable and do the kids shit and the kid's shit looked like shit
Starting point is 00:59:52 and beside here comes Angelico while FTR's on the floor Angelico does a cross body off the stage and they catch him together these across both of their bodies they're standing up and then Jack Evans runs across the ring, jumps over the top rope, and cannonballs all three of them, and everybody goes down.
Starting point is 01:00:14 See Holland Ridge, you fucking idiots, you're going to blow this. Next time one of these goddamn jackoff preliminary fucking ballet dancing cock suckers tells you FTR that they're going to fucking dive on you, tell them once, no, you're not. and if they persist, when they do it, just walk out of the fucking way. They've got an investment in you there. You're the best tag team in the world, and there's no reason to get hurt by job guys doing gymnastics.
Starting point is 01:00:50 And that's the advice that I would have told them in the locker room if they were working for me, and I'm giving it to them here for free on the radio. And then Jim Roth said he took three men out, and one of them was his own. He had to call attention to the fact that what Jack Evans just did was fucking stupid. then they go to the break. Can you imagine if the TBS squash matches on the Saturday night show were 20 minutes long and went through three breaks with Ron Rossi and Vernon Deaton against the road warriors? Oh, God, no.
Starting point is 01:01:23 They came back on skinny white guys with bad haircuts wrestling, and FTR was getting heat on the leg of Jack Evans, who actually did sell it coming up when he did that flip dive. So at least that, there was some train of logic in this. They did, the FTR works the leg well, but still, fuck. Evans gets a decent hot tag to Gomer. And Gomer made a weird comeback with all this weird shit that he does, and then got both members of FTR in a submission hold while he was on his back.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Got the second one in the submission hold when he already had the first one in it by just sweeping the guy's ankle with his fucking foot or whatever. Do you remember when Bill Malky did that to the Midnight Express on TBS, got them both in a submission hold at the same time? It was a hell of a spot. People popped. And then Dusty Rhodes fired all four of us. So then they hit Cash with a finish that could have killed him and then followed it up with a
Starting point is 01:02:35 cheerleading flip where the one guy put the foot in the other guy's hands. and he flipped him backwards so that he could, God damn it. And here's another free tip. I told you you were going to learn a lot about pro wrestling, if you're an aspiring pro wrestler on today's program. Did you see the way that the hybrid were tagging out? Angelico's on the apron. Evans is in the ring.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Evans goes to tag Angelico, and Angelico holds his hand up like for a high five. No, dipshit. The guy on the apron holds his hand out, palm up. Because think about this, if you're moving, if you're moving around in the ring and you go to fucking tag your partner who's on the apron, that high-five bullshit, unless you're just standing right flat-footed in front of him,
Starting point is 01:03:24 it's easy to miss. But if you're doing something, you've got a hold of your opponent, and the fucking guy on the apron holds his handout, palm up, and stationary, then you just have to slap down on it. Now, sometimes if you've got, if you're in the ring and you've got a hold and you want to switch, then you reach up
Starting point is 01:03:45 and now your palm is up because you're stationary, but then the guy on the apron is reaching over and fucking slaps your hand. But they're just awkward all over the fucking place. Everybody went back and forth.
Starting point is 01:03:59 FTR was trying to do their shit, these guys shit instead of get theirs over. Evans did, got up on the top rope, did a corkscrew leg drop where he flips backwards and does a flip and a twist, corkscrew leg drop to leg drop Dax and completely missed Dax.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Landed in front of him, except his, Evans' foot landed at 100 miles an hour, by the way, one inch from Dax's face. And Dax kind of sold that because like maybe nobody will notice because he didn't know what else to do since the guy landed on his ass next to him completely missed. him. And then without doing anything else to Dax, Evans just gets back up to the top and moonsaults him. And Dax lays there for it.
Starting point is 01:04:51 This is the most goddamn amateurish. Cash then started Stugin for fucking Angelico's bullshit fake kicks. I wrote this is the biggest bunch of contrived video game looking bullshit that I've ever seen in my life. Evans kicked out of all kinds of shit and just demasculated FTR. They are completely, they are two flaccid penises. They have no fucking credibility, no respect from anybody, no goddamn intimidation factor.
Starting point is 01:05:24 They can't beat this fucking fishy white fucking gymnast. They're just impotent. And finally, they did the superplex and splash on him, and finally that put him down. Angelico hadn't been seen for a while at that point. they got rid of him somewhere, thank God. This was the worst FTR match I've ever seen. And folks, if anybody's wondering
Starting point is 01:05:49 why I never considered managing FTR in AEW after the first AEW show I saw, it's because I knew this was what was going to fucking happen. And I would have never considered it. The bucks were at the monitor then after FTR wins. And fakely, is that a word, Brian, it is now
Starting point is 01:06:15 it is now fakely noticed the cameraman there who's been shooting him through the whole match and super kicked the double super kicked the cameraman and made quote unquote in quotation marks funny remarks
Starting point is 01:06:29 to bury the whole segment as being completely ridiculous which actually the batch had already done that but then FTR was in the ring looking at the bucks super kicked the fucking cameraman on the screen when the good buddies music played and they came out to the stage
Starting point is 01:06:48 wearing t-shirts with FTR depicted as hot dogs and called them weenies and claimed to be the number one contenders and have a title match next week and then beat up FTR and stole the tag team belts where I wrote see above paragraph where I noted this is why I never considered managing these guys, not because they are not
Starting point is 01:07:17 a quality team, but because I knew what was going to happen. And so far, correct me if I'm wrong, Brian last, have I predicted everything that was going to happen in this company since before they even did television? They couldn't be serious. They couldn't leave well enough alone. They couldn't goddamn get anybody over.
Starting point is 01:07:36 They couldn't book anything that made sense. They couldn't hire talent at the expense of their friends. This was offensive. Fucking Mark's booking in their basements. FTR, I'm sorry guys. Should have stayed where you were because at least may not have been happy there,
Starting point is 01:07:58 but at least you weren't being embarrassed like this on television. And also, WWE is going to be around in five years. And I still think T&T is going to come to this. Somebody in T&T management is going to watch this program one of these days. Anyway, we had more well wishes. Shaquille O'Neill, Gene Simmons, Don Callis. One of those things is not like the other two.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Lars Elrich, DDP. And then, I'm said, I give you an opportunity to comment on FTR. I'm sorry. I'm so verclimped at this. Talk me out of this, if you can. Well, there's no reason to apologize. I agree with a lot, and I disagree with a little bit. I don't blame them for leaving W.W.E.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I also feel bad about the position they're in, because they are in a company where there are very few options to have a good serious wrestling match. This team, Hybrid 2, is fucking awful. And I know a lot of people are going to go, oh, my God, but Jack Evans does amazing flips, and Angelico dove off a high structure and Lucha Underground. out. They were so bad in the ring. While the match was happening, I started feeling bad. There was
Starting point is 01:09:17 a couple of spots with Dax where he's, he's such a phenomenal worker. And you could just tell he's working with someone who, despite being in the business for a while and Jack Evans, has no idea how to have a regular wrestling match. And Jack Evans, he just looked like a mess. Shit's coming from all directions and I wouldn't be there for any of it. No, I feel bad that they're in this position. I didn't like the match. I don't blame FTR at all because they're the best tag team in wrestling. They were put in there with two guys who are not very good, and they were given way too much time to be in there with two guys who are not very good.
Starting point is 01:09:55 The Young Bucks thing backstage, completely ridiculous. I like the Young Bucks' heels, but the Young Bucks as badass heels that just go around super-kicking random people. No way. Not buying it. Not very good. I'm picking up what you're laying down. Just awful. It's so ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And again, I hate pretentiousness in wrestling. They are so fake. Just the way they do their promos, the way they carry themselves. Nick Jackson's more realistic than Matt Jackson, because Nick doesn't open his fucking mouth. He just stands there and lets Matt do his pseudo-acting. But then the best friend's thing is what got me. Yeah. That's what got me.
Starting point is 01:10:36 And that's when I really started to feel bad for FTR. because you know that Tony Khan loves this shit. And anyone who wants to say that Tony Khan has any idea what he's doing as a booker, go watch this because this was awful. This was awful wrestling booking. This was an awful television segment. If you think it's bad booking, imagine how fucking I feel. If FTR left AEW, AEW would lose the best tag team in wrestling who have had better
Starting point is 01:11:09 matches with almost every tag team in there that anyone else could have on a regular basis since they first debuted. If AEW lost the best friends, it wouldn't matter. Everything would move on. Can we please take up a collection for AEW to lose
Starting point is 01:11:25 the best friends? They're on TV every fucking week. And their gimmick is their kids. They call the other team weenies. They're dripping around in minivans. Yeah. They're in their 30s, but they're riding in their mom's minivans. Chuck Taylor's inexcusable in any aspect of wrestling.
Starting point is 01:11:44 He's inexcusable. Trent could have been something, but now he's forever, unless he was to shave his head, get tattoos all over his whole body. It doesn't matter. He's proven. He's a moron, too.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Just because he's on the ball and he has a physique, doesn't mean he's not as much a moron as Chuck Taylor. He's got some talent. If somebody was around that could tell him what to fucking do, you could get something out of him, but it's too late now the people have seen him like this and Taylor, as I said,
Starting point is 01:12:12 is inexcusable and inexplicable. They suck in every sense of the word. They suck in the ring. They suck on the mic. Every promo, every angle that they're involved in is stupid. Fuck the best friends.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And I feel bad for FTR. Because FTR is a phenomenal tag team. Two guys who are both great workers, I might even going to mention Tully because he's a non-factor in all of this. Well, yeah, they're the only team in a world that has a fucking manager that does nothing. And it's not Tully's fault. He got up on the ring apron and distracted at one point. Last week, he pulled a fucking leg.
Starting point is 01:12:53 But the heel team with the heel manager are the more likable people than the fucking two baby-faced middle schoolers that are fucking now supposedly heels that just have pissy face. and the bucks were presented as fucking baby faces for nine months without FTR FTR, the best heel team in the business comes in and then they switch heel to And we already know
Starting point is 01:13:15 what's going to happen next week they're going to wrestle the best friends It'll go through two commercials One of them will be picture and picture And they'll completely outshine the best friends because they're not very good in the ring And there'll be some stupid shit And they'll be the hug spot
Starting point is 01:13:30 Because you can't get enough of that stupidity Seriously, fuck these guys Fuck them. And fuck Tony Kahn for booking this shit. He tries to go out there and try to, oh, I was a tape trader and I did this and that. You are an idiot and you have moron instincts. I just, well, we have more shit left to go, so save a little bit of it. But having said that, I understand. Yes, and here's the thing. Any, any fucking idiot that's been watching wrestling for 20 years could do a better job than this.
Starting point is 01:14:01 He never got it to begin with. He's been trading tapes and watching spots. and he's got a soft spot apparently for people that are nice to him, because elsewise, half these guys wouldn't have jobs. I know a good portion of the major tape traders in wrestling, or, you know, that were in wrestling when there was tapes to be traded. I would venture to guess almost all of the ones I know, John McAdam, Jeff Boudron, any of them would do a better job booking this than Tony con.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Anyway. Even if you want to argue that he's not a money mark, which is a ridiculous argument to take. I don't want to argue that. I'm not saying you, but the people out there, even if you want to argue that he's not a money mark, his booking shows that he's just a mark. Awful, just garbage.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Best tag team in wrestling. And they got him doing a stupid long match with a garbage tag team and then a stupid angle with a joke tag team. All right, save it. Because I've got to fucking knock a tag team match later on and you're using up all the material. I won't have anything left. There's always more.
Starting point is 01:15:05 There's always more to say. Well, that's true. About this stupid show. The main event of this journey through hysteria, the horribleness and awfulness will never be forgotten. We're going to try to concentrate on this and hit all the high points. But the main event on Chris Jericho's 30th anniversary after Lance Storm and Kevin Smith and who is Eli Roth? He's a filmmaker. He was also in, Ingloria's Bastards.
Starting point is 01:15:31 He was one of the bastards. Gabriel Iglesias Chavo Guerrero, Steel Panther, who apparently are a metal cover band or something, Ultimo Dragon and Paul Stanley all sent happy wishes to Jericho. And the main event on the television program celebrating Chris Jericho's 30th anniversary in wrestling, a man who was the WWF unified champion, a man who's internationally headlined, a man who's a man who's done a lot of things, he and old Jake don't call me Sammy Hagar had a tag team match with the team of Chaos Project
Starting point is 01:16:13 Serpentico and Uncle Fester I'm sorry Luther Actually Uncle Fester sounds like a bigger main event name than Luther Chris Jericho's friend from 30 years ago from Canada an outlaw mud show Japanese indie guy who hasn't even wrestled to my in the past 20 or 25 years has been signed to AEW and this fat baldheaded pale fishy white flabby 50 plus year old fuck wit is in the main event standing next to a kid that might be a hundred and fucking 25 pounds makes Brian Hildebrand Dr. Mark Curtis himself look like Lex Lugar
Starting point is 01:16:59 as his partner he's wearing pajamas and he's playing a luchador. And by the way, old Serpentico hits the ropes just like Pockets does. Remember, we talked about that a week or two ago? I'd never seen it. Now that I've seen this, I can't take my eyes off of it. He hits the fucking ropes completely
Starting point is 01:17:21 flat of his back with his right arm over the top and with his left hand, he grabs the middle rope. Every time, it's on purpose. It's not just an accident. I watched Pockets. He does it. I watched Serpentico. he does it too. That's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. Where are these people learning this shit? So anyway, this fucking bell rings for the main event on TNT Cable. With this Jericho and Hager, the top heels and the company supposedly against these fucking guys.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And I wrote, you have got to be shrooming. Jericho was in the whole first fucking segment. Hager never got in. He took bumps for the midget over and over. Then he tagged in Fester. They did some sloppy fighting and a botched spot. I wrote, in what world should these two fucking idiots be on television? I'm talking about Fester and Serpico or satanico or whatever his fucking name is. I know their old friends. I like John Fell in Baltimore, but I wouldn't book him to
Starting point is 01:18:28 wrestle 10 minutes on national cable. Maybe Jeremy Bauer, maybe Jeremy Bauer, He'd probably kick the shit out of half the guys in AEW. He's jacked up. What about Charlie in Starkville, Mississippi? I haven't seen him in action, but I don't know if he fucking is even available. He might not have time to come and do this. Point is, I got a lot of friends. I wouldn't book them to fucking wrestle in main events on national TV.
Starting point is 01:18:53 An excrement at one point when Luther was in there said, this is a quote. I wrote it down. During Luther's time in Japan, he would stand toe to toe with the late great Hayabusa. That's like me saying during my time in Connecticut, I would often get my haircut by Stewie Cavendish. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:19:17 Nobody knows who Hayabusa is or was. And that's not even to disrespect him, but he was an independent outlaw guy in Japan. It's not like during Luther's time in Japan, he'd stand toe to toe with the great Antonio Inoki No, fucking Hayabusa, all these
Starting point is 01:19:40 fucking idiots know the only frame or reference they have is their own little independent outlaw mud show world. Then they went through another break. When they came back, the jobbers were still kicking Jericho's ass. Hager's nowhere to be seen. But then
Starting point is 01:19:58 finally, Jericho takes a bump to the floor. Hager gets knocked off the apron of the floor. They both, on opposite sides of the ring, walk around the ring to join each other, put their arms around each other, looked up in the ring, and waited while Uncle Fester backdropped his midget over the top rope onto both of them. See Holland, Ridge. Chris Jericho and Sammy Hagar are out there risking blown knees and broken ankles and injuries to have a rotten
Starting point is 01:20:32 match with two fucking schlub outlaw fucks. Sir Penteco looks like an athlete. He'd be a great flyweight or featherweight boxer at the 128 pound fucking category. But he doesn't need to be a professional wrestler. And Fester, did I mention, is a joke. This looked worse than make a wish. Chris Jericho's old friend gets a job, gets signed
Starting point is 01:21:05 despite not having done that line of work at over 20 years and then for the first time ever gets to main event a match on national TV against his friend all friends wrestling they're risking injuries to do spots with these fucking morons they're risking Tony and Tony Connell pay them if they get hurt you know he will so they don't care except for the fact of being hurt I wouldn't want that but what the fuck
Starting point is 01:21:30 then the entire group everybody baby faces he'll all the ringside underlings stood there and Fester climbed up to the top rope and didn't dive off of it. He just fell in a rolling way and they all caught him and fell down. It's so sad. I wrote, this is so sad. Then Fester gets Jericho back in the ring and gives him some kind of goddamn move that I don't know what the fuck it was supposed to be. and Jericho is trying to sell over to the ropes to get in position for the next move they're going to do. Fester realizes he's on the wrong side of the ring apron.
Starting point is 01:22:15 He's got to go on the other side of the apron on the other side of the post. So he walks down to the post and like guys do, you grab the post with your right hand, you swing your left leg around, you grab the post with your left hand, and then you swing your right leg around and you're back on the other side of the apron. he put his left foot around the ring post and fucking fell off the goddamn ring to the floor and then jumped back up and almost killed jericho with whatever move they'd been trying to set up because he was fucking rattled do you see that yep Travis's thumbnail for this match should be a still photo of the actual match it can't be parodied or caricatured any farther than it
Starting point is 01:23:02 already was. So Jericho taken move after move from the aforementioned fat, bald, pale 50 plus year old fucking former mud show fuck who apparently has been working as a truck driver. I don't fucking know. By this point who was so gassed up that he could barely stand up and he was trying to walk the top rope. Fester was sucking so much when the first three rows had passed out from oxygen deprivation. You could see it on his face. If he hadn't already been as pale as the underside of a fucking big mouth bass,
Starting point is 01:23:38 he would have turned white. He was translucent by this point. I've never seen somebody so blown up they couldn't do an eye rake. He couldn't rake for fucking eyes. He just kind of put his palm up there and just washed it over fucking Jericho's face. Then he got Jericho's bat that was tossed in. He intercepted it. And Fester gave Jericho a weak gut shot. By the way, if you're noticing that I'm not talking about Jericho doing anything, there's a reason for that. He didn't do anything. Fester hits Jericho with a weak gut shot, and then did you see, Brian, he hits the ropes and tries a big boot, and he got Jericho in the lower abdomen on the big boot.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Jericho took a bump anyway. Luther went for the cover on his hands and knees and looked for all the world like he was down ready to puke on Chris Jericho. And finally, after what seemed like forever, Jericho hits the Judas effect and Fester crumples, Sloppily, one, two, three. Is this a professional organization or is this, hey kids, let's put on a show. Embarrassing. And then Jericho, the company's top heel that just got killed by a midget and a fat man and won by the skin of his teeth accepted all the cheers and accolades.
Starting point is 01:25:10 and allocades and applaudings of the fans there and thanked everyone like a real baby face should and it mjf comes out with wardlow and a clown under a red sheet i'm not talking about an idiot under a red sheet i'm talking about an actual clown with clown feet clown wig and clown red nose which the clown lost when wardlow pulled the sheet off and the nose went tumbling into the and ring and he gave Jericho a gift and it was a framed 24 by 36 inch portrait of MJF which Jericho then broke over the clown's head the clown who was somewhere around five feet two and a hundred pounds not only didn't sell but didn't register the portrait being bashed over its head he just stood there and looked at Jericho who then hit the clown with the stiff fucking Judas effect that I've ever seen and knocked the clown out and then he and MJF instead of getting mad at each other laughed and hugged each other and all the heels on the roster came out to celebrate with Chris Jericho while his the credits on the show rolled and his name was on every credit including him being all eight camera positions it was like the closing of a Saturday Night Live sketch or a show where they
Starting point is 01:26:48 ended a little bit early and all the cast members and guest stars had to mill around while the credits on the stage while the credits were playing and the fucking band was playing something and they just awkwardly didn't know what to fucking do. This was the most rotten match. This was the most rotten show. This was the most amateurish effort on everybody's part. I honestly believe if I was a part of this company and was appeared in any way on this program, I would have gotten a sick stomach afterwards and potentially
Starting point is 01:27:21 thought about changing my line of work. It's not only embarrassing, it's shameful. Nobody has to have a show this bad. It's not necessary. Anybody could do better than this and have many times in the past. not just an expert veteran like me. I've seen people book shows that had never book shows before that were not as insulting and amateurish as this. Have I made myself clear? Abundantly clear, yes. What were your final thoughts on this masturbatory self-congratulation
Starting point is 01:28:04 that Chris Jericho thought would be a great idea to show his 30 years in the business? by getting beat up by Jackie Coogan. I thought it was an excellent match. I thought it was wonderful to finally see Jericho and Luther after all these years get in there. I thought that Serpentigo showed a world of talent. I think Hager each and every week is better and better. I thought the commentators did an excellent job
Starting point is 01:28:29 of explaining what was happening here. I thought the segment with the clown couldn't have gone any better. The clown is down. It couldn't have got any better. I think the buildup for this MJ of Jericho feud just leaves everyone with wet panties. The heels are mad at each other. Since the baby faces are mad at each other,
Starting point is 01:28:49 the heels got to be mad at each other too. Give them something to do. I'm a big fan of comedy. I love classic Saturday Night Live and SCTV. So the credits, what a brilliant move to end this amazing episode of Dynamite having Jericho all over those credits. Seven stars, eight stars.
Starting point is 01:29:08 eight stars all kidding aside this was awful and it just embodies a general awfulness that seeps into everything on AEW they can never leave well enough alone even when something like the Cody match pockets has to come right out
Starting point is 01:29:28 even when they have the best tag team in wrestling they have to dumb them down by having them involved with dummies as a Booker Tony Con is a failed director of football for a film. I mean, this is just such a bad show. And I know there's a lot of people that like it. There's a lot of people that have low standards. What are they looking at?
Starting point is 01:29:50 What are people that have low standards? There are people that have low standards. What makes sense to them? What is good about the athleticism of these outlaw guys? No, that's not it. What is what makes sense? Who's putting on a good performance on the microphone? What is in any way,
Starting point is 01:30:07 interesting about this fucking horse shit let's say you were born in 2000 jim oh good lord but let's just say you were born in 2000 and you became a wrestling fan want to say 10 years old 2010 so from 2010 to 2019 when a ew got on tv all you've seen is whatever's out there raw smackdown impact i guess to revive dcw but you know what no at least anybody that's on wwee television pretty much 99% of them like athletes of some description even though every once in a while one of them sneaks in on nx d that's emaciated but how many flips do they do but how many near falls do they have too many but but they still look like athletes is their comedy written by writers or are they singer-songwriters hopefully there
Starting point is 01:31:00 wouldn't be any comedy amongst the wrestling matches that would be the managers and the fucking frivolous people around ringside it's just it's a bad show and there are people you're trying you're trying to tell me that the only reason people watch a w is because the rest of shit for the last 10 years has sucked so bad but that i don't think it's the only reason but i have not seen the w i've seen the w i've seen the w w i've put on plenty of bad shows lately crummy shows insulting shit like being thrown off the roof of the titan tower and whatever but just on a constant barrage of embarrassment and half-priced talent and discount fucking wrestlers and midgets and freaks and people that have
Starting point is 01:31:44 no business being exposed to a national television audience, they don't do that in the WWE. They do it every week on AEW. And there's no reason for it, except that the guy in charge doesn't know the fucking difference. And the people he's listening to all want to give their fucking friends jobs. And we come down to that again. AEW presents silly stupid shit but treats the audience like they're in on the joke.
Starting point is 01:32:11 WWE presents silly stupid shit but pretends like they're fooling the audience. That's part of the difference. Okay, here's an idea. How about one of them just don't do silly stupid shit and then see what the audience think. Hey, that was the promise of AEW early on. And I mean, I know we always bring that up and we shouldn't anymore because obviously that was just a bunch of talk.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Yeah, I mean, it was Ring of Honor. Ring of Honor is doing it. It's a shame that we had to wait for Ring of Honor to do what AEW promised a year ago, but they don't even have to go all the way that Ring of Honor has gone to doing a really legitimate program. They just get better talent. There's plenty available.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Admit you've made a mistake and you've got bad advice and you signed a bunch of people that weren't ready for television. pay them off and send them home, tell them if they want to go to wrestling school, take a look at them later on. You don't wish that they drop over and die, just that they're not good enough to be on your program right now. You got not unlimited money. Nobody has unlimited money, but you have plenty of money more than the rest of the field
Starting point is 01:33:21 to compete to get any talent that you want to get, get some new talent, get somebody to write the show that knows what they're fucking doing instead of doing this because they used to jack off in their fucking room at night, writing cards down. I wrote cards down in my room, but I wasn't jacking off at the same time. I had different material to peruse while I did that. Get people that know what they're doing and talent that can perform it and then put on a program that is suitable and not embarrassing to the wrestling
Starting point is 01:33:53 business and is suitable for a national cable network. And then you might get more than 850 or 900,000 fucking people watching because that's goddamn embarrassing. It's goddamn embarrassing that we've got to the point where the highest rated wrestling program in the world gets less than 2 million people. And these two on Wednesday nights are fighting over 750,000. It's fucking embarrassing. Would you like the ratings?
Starting point is 01:34:21 Sure, go ahead. Now, let me remind you, the vice presidential debate was last night. I believe it did in excess of 50 million viewers. Well, you and I were watching that, the important. stuff. Yeah, no, I DVR both of these shows and watched them in the morning to ruin my morning. Here are the ratings. NXT, 639,000, AEW, 753,000. There you go. It's the same fucking thing. When they've got competition, they each lose 100,000. When they don't have any competition, they each gain 100, 150,000. And it is what it is. Because the only people that are going to watch
Starting point is 01:35:00 shit that looks like this are people that for whatever reason like shit that looks like this. I believe we have made this abundantly clear and I've got to go wash my mouth out to take the taste of that fester match festering in my gums out of it. So do you have any final words for the audience? It's just it's a sad state of American wrestling right now. You have one promotion, which is an old man who took over his dad's promotion, took over his dad's territory and the other promotion is a kid
Starting point is 01:35:32 whose father bought him a territory. It is, isn't it ironic? There is a tooth and nail rule that we've had an effect for some time. They've now given Dr. Britt Baker her own interview segment called the waiting room. And they've even, it looks like Stain was involved in this.
Starting point is 01:35:55 They've even built a cheap set that somehow resembles a doctor's waiting room. and Riba introed Dr. Britt Baker, and because of the tooth and nail rule, I fast forward to you. No, come on. Hold on. I started fast forwarding,
Starting point is 01:36:14 because I knew this was going to be a complete joke and a waste of my time. Because they brought Cody out, and there is a tooth and nail rule, but I saw Jane Cargill come through the door, and I said, if Jane Cargill is involved in this, I've got to see it. So I stopped fast forwarding and I started watching it.
Starting point is 01:36:38 But you didn't rewind? I didn't rewind because I didn't give a fuck. Oh, this, oh, man, this was the best segment since Jade Cargill's debut. This was such a train wreck. How could anything that Britt Baker and Cody did be worse than Jane Cargill's debut? Because remember, Jay Cargill's debut was so brilliant because, it was really, really bad and really, really awesome. And this one, I've been waiting for a follow-up on that level.
Starting point is 01:37:08 And we finally got it because she is so confident on the mic, despite any talent on the mic. But she's so talented. Let me tell you what you missed. Reba introduces Britt Baker. Apparently they've been doing this show on their YouTube show for a while. Britt Baker does some jokes. Like, it's a real talk show. Like she does like a little monologue.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Like she's Jay Leno. Oh, boy. And then Cody comes out. And right away I'm like, okay, this. I got a feeling. I did see the part about where when Reba introduced her, she came out to mute like talk show music like she's Ellen dancing or whatever. That's why I started fast forward.
Starting point is 01:37:47 It's ridiculous. So then Cody comes out there. I don't even know if Cody got a word out. You know, she's just making jokes at Cody. And she did say how it'll be great the next nine months, no brandy. I'm the show. And then when Jade walked through that door, I popped,
Starting point is 01:38:05 I popped like I did when I was nine years old and the ultimate warrior won back the Andrew Continental title. Well, that's when I started watching again. Go ahead. The first thing I wrote, they didn't give up on this. Why is this happening?
Starting point is 01:38:22 She's taller than Cody. She looks like Shelton Benjamin and a blonde wig. Her abs look like alien is coming. Her thighs are bigger than Doug Furnaces. She's not just a female bodybuilder, which I personally think is visually fucking off-putting. Let's just say off-putting, female bodybuilders. But her shit don't even match.
Starting point is 01:38:44 She's got a fucking teeny tiny waist and big arms, but a little upper body and huge fucking thighs. It's like her steroids didn't settle evenly or whatever the fuck. But my God, this girl has no business speaking on television. and it's not even fair to tear her apart because she's obviously, you said she looks like she's so confident and she's doing such a good job while at the same time she's worse than probably anybody ever on national television.
Starting point is 01:39:16 She's awkward and uncomfortable and she's trying not to show it. I think, that would seem to me as a talent evaluator from 30, 40 years ago, she's not comfortable she's not a good promo she is not an experienced veteran wrestler you can tell the way she moves on the interviews her work has to be the drizzling shits and she's not really fucking Shaquille O'Neal
Starting point is 01:39:45 so why is she in this and they bring Shaq back up Shaq was on the show two weeks ago got a drink thrown in his face by Brandy didn't do anything about it had the personality of a fucking coma patient, and that whole business is dead. Now, nobody would be interested in seeing Shaq and Cody now
Starting point is 01:40:08 after seeing how little it Shaq gave a fuck. But now they're bringing her back into it. She's talking about Shaq again. And why is she involved? They have an NBA superstar and a worldwide known celebrity. Why are they putting this awkward fucking deer on ice, can't talk girl in this unless Shaq specifically said
Starting point is 01:40:30 I'm fucking her so put her in this thing that's the way I'll do it if she gets to be on TV that's happened before that's understandable if that is not the case whoever whoever's idea it was
Starting point is 01:40:42 that they should put this girl on television should be taken out in the parking lot stripped naked have honey poured all over them and tied on top of a red ant hill then she pie faces Cody You know, when she came through that door,
Starting point is 01:40:59 when she came through that door, I said, oh my God, I figured someone would show up and challenge Cody. I said it last week. She's taller than Cody. I said, who's Cody working with? What is his program? And we couldn't figure it out. And when she showed up, I said, oh, no, they can't be doing this again.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Because what's Cody's program? He's not going to work against her. But they're not. And he's not because here comes red velvet. The only pro wrestler. named after a cake because brandy can't be there. Here comes red velvet and they stare down for a second and then they trade slaps and then they jump each other and they have a pull apart.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Remember we've talked about this also. Nobody comes to help the guys that are bathed in blood wrapped up in barbed wire and razor wire and broken glass with hand grenade shoved up their ass. But these two girls get in a fucking fight and suddenly every outlaw girl in wrestling hits the fucking scene to break it up. Instantly. Instantly. And I mean, they've got to be paying all those fucking girls to be there.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Is this guy a madman? Why? And then suddenly, as they pull them apart and they get the fight between Red Velvet and Jane Cargill separated, suddenly there's a jump cut to the screen where you see footage from a couple of months ago. of Britt Baker attacking Thunder Rosa and then Thunder Rosa does a promo
Starting point is 01:42:27 which is half English and half Spanish and I had trouble understanding both because of their audio and her accent and this is on the screen after this pull apart and then Britt Baker they come back to her on the set and she's pissed about Thunder Rosa and fucking
Starting point is 01:42:44 what was there a jump cut there? Did they plan this this way? was something off kilter? What the fuck was going on? This was the herkiest, jerkiest. I can't explain it, but all of a sudden, like, you didn't even describe how instant it was.
Starting point is 01:43:06 In no instant. I'm talking about a jump cut. Yeah, the brawl's happening, and all of a sudden, for no reason that's explained, they go to footage of Brit and Thunder Roast. Now, it's Brits interview show, but Brits in the middle of an interview with Cody and all this chaos breaks out.
Starting point is 01:43:21 going on suddenly the tape starts playing on the screen and then Britt gets mad because the tape is playing on the screen. It's her show. She didn't know the tape was going to play and why is the tape playing after the pull apart? We don't. And then after the Thunder Rosa promo, she's, Tony promised me
Starting point is 01:43:37 I wouldn't have to wrestle you. Tony said this. Tony said this. Yeah, she mentioned Tony Kahn's name about 17 times because apparently that was to cover up for the fact that he's paying 25 of her friend girl wrestlers from the Indies to come and get a fucking free ride over here. This was such a beautiful train wreck this segment.
Starting point is 01:43:56 It was just, this is the kind of train wreck I can enjoy on AEW. And Cody just seems so out of place. Like I said, I don't know if he said one word the entire time. And then he got out of there once they started fighting. You never saw him again, right? Of course. Thanks for coming. By the way, all the girls that rushed to break up the fight, they came from like the camera side. Yeah. Why did red velvet have to come through the door? She was going to confront her on this makeshift set. Why did she just run in from that side?
Starting point is 01:44:31 I used to do promos in TNA where they built my office. The office didn't have one wall. But we had to remind everybody to walk in where the door was supposed to be. Fucking ridiculous. Well, there's an introduction for you to the to the main event program that they had over at All Petit Wrestling. Although they did, with Shaquille O'Neal appearing on this one program, they increased the aggregate weight of their entire talent roster by about 38%.
Starting point is 01:45:13 Don't you agree? He's as big as any three other guys on the roster. He is massive. So, I don't know whatever. Oh, what are you going to say about the big mixed tag team match, Cornette? What are you going to say? Some people, I understand, liked this. Is that what you're hearing?
Starting point is 01:45:37 A lot of people liked it. I thought it was all right. There were some parts of it that were all right if you just viewed it in a vacuum. But the whole psychology of and backstory of and how this came about and what we're supposed to think about it and who were we supposed to cheer for and it's, I've never seen a crossover, celebrity crossover
Starting point is 01:46:08 with a person of this magnitude of a mainstream star that was built worse, laid out worse, and more confusing for the viewer to watch than this in my 40 years in wrestling. I don't disagree with that.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Well, you just, it wasn't that bad. Again, in a vacuum. Forget about the buildup. The buildup was one of the Hall of Fame bad builds to a match in the history of wrestling. But as an actual match, an actual spectacle, seeing what Jade Cargill could deliver, seeing what Shaq could do, I thought they were good. I thought red velvet was good. Cody, I just, I can't stop looking at that neck tattoo, which still looks so stupid a year later. The only part I really, really hated was the stuff on the floor. like shack going at it with the fans. Yeah, QT must have been there to coach everyone through the match.
Starting point is 01:47:02 But yeah, he was probably QT Marshall was down there at ringside going, the next spot is like Garrett Morris doing the news for the heart of hearing. And again, I see the benefits. I don't agree with it, but I see the benefits of shack going through the tables because that's the spot that you send around to get people to talk about. But the setup of the two tables being there for no reason. Red Velvet having to open a table. That was the worst part of the match.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Let's go through it in order, because I'm going to get you to see things my way, that this was an incredibly, this was a wasted opportunity of gargantuan epic biblical proportions to, yeah, they got some mainstream news for Shaquille going through the fucking tables. Who are we supposed to cheer for?
Starting point is 01:47:53 We've got a beloved, sports icon and a bitchy bodybuilder against the son of a wrestling legend that's a baby face in the normal program and his partner is a stand-in because his original partner got pregnant. They showed a video package to explain, as I believe J.R., one of the announcers said,
Starting point is 01:48:14 the story of how we got there, and it was comprised of a bunch of people slapping each other in the face and throwing water on each other. And when they make the entrances, yes, people are cheering Shaq, but then it's Cody and Cake against Shaq and Flake is what I wrote down, by the way. Flake comes out, good old Jane Cargill, and she's obviously a heel with her attitude and presentation from day one,
Starting point is 01:48:42 but Shaq comes out and he's a beloved sports figure, but Cody out there in Red Velvet is happy to be involved. And I would have thought that Cody would be the most impressive person in the match and that he and Shaq would do simple things but that the match would make sense. Well, they did do simple things, but the match didn't make sense. I thought that red velvet would be,
Starting point is 01:49:11 as she was probably overall, the smoothest thing in this match. I was hoping that Jane would look like a fucking deer on ice. but no she's one of these people that she can do the complicated stuff like she did the fucking of the what was that goddamn awkward
Starting point is 01:49:37 the big chicken the finish right the big double chicken wing like flaring steamboat used to do into the face plant she did that and it looked great but she can't throw a kick and I know she's green. So she's better than everybody, including me, probably thought she was, but everybody
Starting point is 01:49:58 would say, wow, it was so great, like it was the greatest debut of all. The girls, especially their first series, obviously they had worked out and gone through, and it was more like modern interpretive dance with strikes. They didn't actually nail most of the strikes, but they got close enough and they didn't completely fall apart and they did their routine that they had practiced. As it went longer their shit started
Starting point is 01:50:27 to get a little bit more awkward because they're both green, especially Jane and this is a high profile position. But I just couldn't get over that Shaquille O'Neal finally wrestles and this, it's in this.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Him and a top baby face versus two hot heels in the WWE, even as recently as four or five years ago, could have set pay-per-view records. He could have made Tyson money in one night. I'm not talking about Tyson boxing money. I'm talking about the money they paid Mike Tyson in 98. He got what, what was it, three or four million dollars?
Starting point is 01:51:08 Shaquille O'Neill on a high-profile W.W. pay-per-view up until the last five years when they just gutted them for the network could have gotten a easily mid-seven figure payoff if he'd have chosen to do that and he does this and even in this atmosphere and it's him deciding i'm going to do it now and on free television and for much less than five million dollars i'm sure it couldn't make sense can you imagine if sheikhil o'neal had choked slammed a hot heel through that table and stood there with those big paws over the top of it.
Starting point is 01:51:50 That would have been a sports center moment. That would have been played on everything. And it wouldn't have made everybody look like a fucking idiot. Cody and Shaq wasn't bad for the most part. It was easy and basic. Cody worked to put Shaquille's size over. I don't know who taught him how to do that overhand chop, but every time he would, it looked like awkward
Starting point is 01:52:15 and it would hurt at the same time. because he was making contact, but it looked like his hand he felt was radioactive. He would look at it, hold it up in the air, whack it down on Cody's chest, and then bring it back up like, oh, it's glowing.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Shaquille O'Neal did a head palm shoot-off. They had to teach him that. They had to teach him that. A person who's never wrestled before who would never do a head-pal shoot-off, it doesn't make since.
Starting point is 01:52:48 He had Palm shoot off to Cody. And then backdropped him. That's great. Wrestling 101. You got a big man take a backdrop. Got a big man fucking sell like Cody was selling. And you could tell they had told
Starting point is 01:53:03 Shaquille to milk the chops, but I think he thought that meant that he had to stare at his hand like he had just discovered it was attached to his body. And then we're seeing a theme. Jane tags herself in. This is going to be going to be. going on all night, not just in this match.
Starting point is 01:53:18 But when Jane tagged herself in, Shaquille had Cody back in the corner and was going to give him another one, Jane just slaps Shaquille on the back and Cody just looks and walks off. And here comes red velvet. I know that not only besides the fact
Starting point is 01:53:36 that the real rules of a real mixed tag team match, when one girl tags in, the other girl's got to get in, vice versa. Shaquille O'Neal was not in any way going to have any interaction where he had anything physical to do with a woman for all of his endorsements and et cetera. But does that mean Cody just has to walk off and get out of the ring and Red Velvet just comes in? Or couldn't they have done the thing where Cody and fucking Jane stare each other down for a second?
Starting point is 01:54:04 And the referee gets in and says, Cody, go tag Red Velvet and tag her and bring her in. It just was... Anyway, so the girls did the modern interpretive dance routine with strikes that I'm mentioned. And I guarantee you they could do that in their sleep move for move because you you could tell they had practiced it their entire exchange a thousand times because there was no spontaneity. And like I said, they were missing some of the stuff, but they were close enough and they kept moving where it didn't fall apart. And there, Jane can do the old SOS, the sack of shit slam, Razor Ramon used to do and do a nip up perfectly, but she kicks like an ostrich.
Starting point is 01:54:44 and it's just like the guys the guys they can do these incredible back and forward flips off the top rope can't throw a fucking punch anyway so they're having this mad the guys did some shit then the girls did some shit then suddenly jane goes over and pie faces cody
Starting point is 01:55:03 and cody's reaction of that is to jump in the ring and run over and knock shekel off the apron on the floor and then shekeel is standing there and suddenly the paid fans, the ones on the payroll, all the wrestlers around the ring, why did Billy Gunn's son just hit Shaquille O'Neal in the back with a chair for no apparent reason? I think in storyline, although I'm not justifying this, because he is a member of the nightmare family and he was looking out for the other members of the nightmare family that Shaquille O'Neal was in the match against.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Makes no sense. Shaquille O'Neal was standing on the apron of the ring when Cody ran across nailed him off of it to the floor and Shaquille is standing there going, why'd you do that? And suddenly Cody's friend hits him from behind with a fucking chair. And then a bunch of people jump over there.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Well, he grabs the one guy and brings him over the rail and a bunch of people attack Shaquille O'Neal and Shaquille beats up two or three of them, including poor QT Marshall that was apparently there as the ringside coach, as you mentioned. And right after he does this, red velvet's up on the top rope suddenly and moonsaults off the top onto Cody, Jane, QT.
Starting point is 01:56:18 They all go down. And then they rolled in the ring and started the match again with the girls and Cody and Shaquille out on the apron. Can fans just come and attack the participants from behind with a chair and the match goes on? I don't. So they start the match again. And the girls get a little more awkward this time.
Starting point is 01:56:43 And Jane gets a figure four leg lock on Red Velvet, and Red Velvet reverses it, but Jane gets it back and then lets it go and starts posing. And this was a theme. They've told Jane, pose a lot, flex your biceps. Every time she does anything successfully, including brushing her teeth, she flexes and poses. Then Jane goes out for no reason on the floor and pulls a table out from under the ring and takes forever to set it up. But then Red Velvet comes. out and stops her and throws her back in the ring and then Red Velvet gets another table
Starting point is 01:57:17 and takes forever to set it up. Meanwhile, Shaq and Cody are just standing there looking at everybody. QT has to come up and help Red Velvet set up the table while telling her to get back in the ring supposedly at the same time. It really was helping her set it up because it was taken forever. So Red Velvet gets in and promptly nearly fucking decapitates poor Jane Cargill with a potato spin kick to the fucking head and then red velvet tags Cody
Starting point is 01:57:48 so that means Shaq has to get back in explain this one to me Lucy Shaquille stops Cody and power bombs him and as he bends over and looks at Cody Cody just fucking punches him in the face and pops right back up from the power bomb from this 7 foot 1, 365 pound man and then Shaquille runs at Cody for no apparent reason and Cody gives him a half a slam
Starting point is 01:58:18 if you were going to slam Shaquille O'Neal why would you slam him right after he had just power bombed you less than 10 seconds beforehand? That's not rhetorical either. It doesn't make any sense. It didn't make any sense. And for every one of the things Cody is some kind of wizard in the ring, he's not, he never has been.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Cody's the one that I thought, knew that much. He's the one that I thought could put this together. Wouldn't it have made more sense if somehow Cody had got a slam on Shaquille and Shaquille power bombed him? I don't fucking know. But here's the thing. Obviously Shaquille O'Neal has never been in a ring. Because if they were going to do this much, everything that he did before with Cody, Cody could have verbally instructed him on in the back and he could have got by with it.
Starting point is 01:59:14 But this one, Shaquille O'Neal has never gone up for a slam. You could tell that. And I don't know why, except why that Cody would have wanted Shaquille coming toward him moving, except that he thought that if Shaquil being that tall could come forward
Starting point is 01:59:32 and jump a little bit, that Cody could get under him enough to turn him and do a slam without, but you've seen people slam Andre the giant yeah Kamala Harley race uh fucking uh hokeogan L connect that L connect did you ever see anybody slam Andre when he was moving toward him or was he standing still I think he was standing still
Starting point is 01:59:58 there's a reason for that because and Andre weighed more than Shaq if you know how to take a slam you can post up enough that a not everybody could do it. I still couldn't have slammed Andre, but a guy that's stout enough, it's big enough,
Starting point is 02:00:14 and especially it's tall enough to just turn him, Andre could go with it. But with his weight and momentum coming forward, that would have made it almost impossible, even though he would post up for a guy to turn and slam fully and properly
Starting point is 02:00:31 a fucking guy of that weight. That's why he was always blinded or finger poking the eye, oh my God, and he's, standing there rocking, but he's in the same place. And then when the guy got under him, he could post up and he could help turn himself. So Cody apparently gave up on Shaquille being able to do any of that and just decided maybe if he's coming, I can get under him and turn him over.
Starting point is 02:00:53 It didn't work. And it probably fucking gave Cody a hernia. It was the worst slam since Lugar and Yoko Zuna. No, because Lugar and Yoko was supposed to be like that. This was not. and Yoko also had 300 pounds on Shaq at the time anyway. And Yoko was also moving. He wasn't standing in school.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Yeah. Well, Yoko had, Yoko, see, the thing is, if you go back and watch that, Yoko got a couple of steps and moved, but he went up to turn himself and to post himself. And if Lugar almost got under him, it was close enough. So when I say moving, I'm not talking about taking a step into post and up. I'm talking about just coming at you running for both feet like Shaq was.
Starting point is 02:01:42 You can take a step up into it, but not just moving forward with no... He had no idea of how to fucking... Once Cody got him in his arms of what to fuck to do, he was just all dead weight. Anyway, the girls got back in and traded awkward forearms forever. Jane has a nice spine buster. That's another thing.
Starting point is 02:02:04 She can't throw a fuck. forearm without looking like she, you know, a disconnected fucking bucket of body parts, but she had a beautiful spine buster. Then Cody comes in and makes the save by
Starting point is 02:02:21 basically pulling the heel girl off the baby face girl. And so then he runs over and pokes shack in the eye. So now Cody's a heel because he's poked shack in the eye, and Shaq
Starting point is 02:02:37 was trying to get into position for this long before it was ready. And then Cody runs across the ring and cross-body Shaq, and they just fall backwards through the tables. So now, poor Shaq, for breaking absolutely no rule that I can
Starting point is 02:02:58 determine in this match whatsoever has been attacked by some guy with a chair from behind, assaulted by numerous people not in the match, Cody has poked him in the eyes, and now tried to kill him with that move just so they can get on Sports Center. And then Jane milked the shock for so long. Shock in quotation marks.
Starting point is 02:03:25 And even the referee was patting her on the back. Turn around, turn around because red velvet's there with the, ready with Brandy's move, the spear. Brandy still had to get mentioned in this. Jane wouldn't turn around. so the director, it was so obvious, the director goes, well, we'll cut back to the shot of fucking Shaq and Cody on the floor,
Starting point is 02:03:44 and that's when they did that, that's when Red Velvet came with the spear, because Jane finally turned around and they missed the spear, and it still wasn't the finish. And now, the girls are going to continue working while Shaquille O'Neal, legendary basketball icon,
Starting point is 02:04:01 is motionless on the floor. Jane picks Red Velvet up over her shoulder and Jane is so tall or let me try that again. Red Velvet picks Jane up over her shoulder and Jane is so tall that her feet were still touching the mat when Red Velvet had her up and then Jane reverses it and gives her the big face smash. One, two, three.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Jane gets up and starts posing and smiling at the camera again and now they bother to remind us that Shaquille O'Neal Basketball Hall of Famer is unconscious and motionless on the floor. This was the most preposterous thing I've ever seen from the build to the incomprehensible bill to this match with people that no one was going to care about instead of established talent to get a mainstream celebrity icon involved. a girl in her first match in front of people,
Starting point is 02:05:04 an underneath girl that's a fill in for the pregnant girl, and a baby face that's wrestling like a heel, and then the fucking celebrity, his team wins, but he's unconscious when it happens, and the heel girl that he's teamed with doesn't cheat but still beats the baby face. And because the girls did some moves right, there's people on Twitter,
Starting point is 02:05:29 See, they were great. Yeah. And then, as I wrote, this was the most preposterous thing I've ever seen. They out-preposterized themselves. They come back from the break. They load Shaquille in an ambulance.
Starting point is 02:05:45 We see Shaquille O'Neal go in the ambulance, and J.R. blows the cue because he said, well, I think Tony's there, but Tony wasn't there yet. And they slammed the doors, and then they go to an arena beauty shot of the lights and the ceiling, so that they can take Shaquille out of the thing because now they go back
Starting point is 02:06:03 and there's Tony standing behind the ambulance and as you mentioned before in the show, he just decides that he has the power since they're not going anywhere. This guy's been motionless for 10 minutes but they're not in a hurry to get to the medical facility with Shaquille O'Neal, the lights aren't going, the doors are closed, they're not playing the siren,
Starting point is 02:06:26 they're just sitting there. so Tony says well I'll just open the thing up and see what's going on and get a word from the EMTs and he opens the door and like he would ever be able to do any of this and Shaquille O'Neal is gone and the EMT is just with his arms at his sides like I don't know what happened
Starting point is 02:06:49 now that was the most preposterous thing I've ever seen and Shaquille O'Neill was never mentioned again. Do you agree with this going on first? You know, I mean, at least it got it over with, but then you've blown your fucking, they could have milked this to a big,
Starting point is 02:07:16 big number for their purposes in the last two segments, but then that would have been the flattest finish in the history of television. But they probably could have got a bigger number, although maybe Shaq just wanted to get to fuck out of there. Maybe he was double parked. He didn't seem to be in a hurry when he was in a ring,
Starting point is 02:07:37 but he doesn't seem like a person who gets in much hurry. I agree with you. The match layout was a complete mess, but I thought Jade was impressive for a first match. Thank God it was Red Velvet instead of Brandy. I don't think Brandy could have done any of this. I thought Red Velvet looked good. I thought she looked good in there.
Starting point is 02:07:53 No, she was the best one of the four. It was still, you know, there were awkward moments with her and Jane because James Green, Red Velvet's still green. but she was smoother than the rest of this bunch, but... I mean... And it continues the trend where every Cody match, you have to have smoke and mirrors. You have to have all sorts of crap happening at ringside to hide the fact that Cody's actually not that good in the ring.
Starting point is 02:08:18 But here's the thing, they did smoke and mirrors with Rhonda Rousey's debut, and it was a brilliant... That was perfect. Pro wrestling match. Perfect. A brilliant, brilliant, pro wrestling match, the best debut ever. There was still smoke and mirrors involved, but... it was put together well.
Starting point is 02:08:35 The build was understandable. Everybody was interested in seeing what was going to happen. They overperformed and out-executed in the actual match, and the fucking finish the people were throwing babies in the air. This, the big spot was not the finish. It was done for publicity on non-wrestling programs. The pairing made no sense of any of these people to be together as partners or opponents. there was no focus on any thread in this match that made it make any sense and why do you
Starting point is 02:09:10 fucking carry your goddamn mainstream celebrity out of the building and then have him disappear too one wasn't bad enough he couldn't just disappear or just be carried out he had to be carried out and disappear he's the only person i've seen actually sell going through a table no one in wrestling does he actually did it the way you probably should if you want to make it effective. That horse has left the barn, and by the way, I would love to say that that was the last person we see get put through a table on this particular program, but that would be just crazy. Any final thoughts on Shaq and Wack versus Cody and Cake?
Starting point is 02:09:56 The layout was a mess, but the performances by Jade and Red Velvet and even Shaq, I thought, were really good. Cody, I think, is overrated in the ring, and I always have. It was obvious why QT was at ringside because he was coaching them live on TV and had to get through the match. And that's all I had to say about. I thought Jade looked good. For everyone I was waiting for Jade to fail, I thought Jade looked pretty good. I would use her on OVW television. Better than Linda Miles, who you compared her to. She was better than Linda Miles. I would use her on OVW television so she could learn on local TV with limited exposure. National TV, I'm afraid they've, as we've mentioned many times before, in the words of Bill Maher about Donald Trump,
Starting point is 02:10:49 we let the fucking alien on the ship and it had eggs. Now she's going to be out there prancing and posing. Hey, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Tony Chivani, in the ring again. he attempts to introduce Christian Cage, but instead out comes the twinkletoes broom players and dance with their brooms
Starting point is 02:11:15 and then here comes twinkle toes and callous and gallows and Anderson and you know Harpo reminds me of one of the fashion consultants on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Did you ever watch that? I don't remember their names, but there's one of them. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 02:11:34 It was actually, Actually, it was a fun show, a fun and frivolous show. I used to see their pictures in the New York Post, so I know who they are, but I never watched it. He looks like one of them, I can't remember his name, but he'd make a good fashion, a better fashion consultant than wrestler. You ever notice he has a different look in every segment? A few weeks ago, he was in that school for kids. Well, of course it's for kids, but he was in like a preschool in a three-piece suit. Then later on, that was the night he came out in like his white,
Starting point is 02:12:04 flowing shirt and his cowboy boots and then he was dressed, you know, for the barbed wire exploding match a different way, and then here he's, every time we see him, he's dressed like a different guy. Yeah, well, I've not delved into it deep enough
Starting point is 02:12:20 to spend a lot of time figuring out exactly what Kenny Olivier's going to look like when he comes out. I just wish he'd hurry up and get it over with. Anyway, even Don Callis, who, remember, the Jack I liked his promos in the 90s. He was a good manager.
Starting point is 02:12:39 I was a fan of his. He seems everything about these guys and what they do. They've all got their tongue in their cheek. They are all winking at each other somehow about the things that they're saying that I do not believe that they're, as I mentioned earlier in the program, may not be in this YouTube clip, it was earlier in this podcast. when the Miz did his promo he didn't do that fucking tongue and cheek
Starting point is 02:13:07 wink thing he was being a weasily heel and lying but you felt like he was trying to talk you into it and he was being serious there's a difference with all of these guys they're just ass and off is that the feeling you get
Starting point is 02:13:23 the vibe you get yeah and I understand it too if you had a kid who thinks he knows more than he does who's throwing money at you. Wouldn't you feel the same way? But wouldn't you go out and try to be professional on television if you could? Calus can.
Starting point is 02:13:37 Olivier can't. He's the shits. He's not going to get any better. Verbaly or whatever the fuck. Callis can do it, but they're all falling into this thing. We're just kidding. We're all playing here. So that's where they tried to, as we mentioned before, they tried to get the heel heat over
Starting point is 02:13:55 taking away the fan's great moment. Which would have been those two putses getting blown up, sky high. So, which is another problem when you have these, you advertise and book these kind of matches. So we're supposed to assume that the fans want to see both wrestlers be blown up for real and they're going to be disappointed if they're not. Yes, they were because the explosion was the shits, but it just doesn't make any sense. And anyway, as we mentioned before, this explanation was awful in that everybody in their audience, that specifically everybody in their audience
Starting point is 02:14:31 knows that they're trying to explain a fart in church finish that they didn't mean and it was it was fucked up and now they're trying to take a cheap way out of it that for all the reasons we talked about earlier doesn't work and then Harpo
Starting point is 02:14:47 gave more of that the fucking phone sex promo he just sounds like oh okay okay harder baby Anyway, Kingston finally comes in and Don Callis
Starting point is 02:15:04 berates him and gives him 10 seconds to leave the ring. Now bear in mind, they've been fucking talking and suddenly Kingston comes out on his own because he's being maligned and talked about and he's mad, right? And that's the way he comes out to confront these guys.
Starting point is 02:15:20 And then Callis gives him 10 seconds to leave the ring or they're going to fuck him up, right? And on the screen, the clock pops up and it's already at eight seconds and the countdown just like the sound effects they had for the exploding ring how did they know they needed that
Starting point is 02:15:40 how did they know that Eddie Kingston was going to come out and interrupt them for them to have a tape queued up on the fucking screen and the sound effects ready for them to give an ultimatum to a guy who interrupted them on an improvisational basis. Brian, riddle me that one. I have no answer for you. Of course, because there is none.
Starting point is 02:16:04 Because it's fucking stupid and they don't think and there's no quality control. So then they give him 10 seconds to leave the ring or he's going to get fucked up, sirens, clock on the screen. And Olivier, trying to be a fucking jolly jokester, he's just so funny whenever he fucking makes his funny faces and his butt-plug fucking expressions and goddamn does all of his stuff, he screams 69
Starting point is 02:16:32 me, Don, save me! And he lays down and Callis covers him on top of, gets in a 69 with him, making mockery of Kingston trying to save Moxley, which would have been a great finish if the ring had indeed blown up, and just further make this show a complete fucking comedy sketch.
Starting point is 02:16:54 and then when Kingston tries to goddamn be serious and do some kind of business here and be a professional you hear old Harpo Harpo Fingerfuck actually said He doesn't break character look at him And then Kingston nailed Harpo and the heels got on him And here comes Moxley And so Moxley and Gallows and Anderson and Kingston getting a big fight
Starting point is 02:17:24 and you know what they did Brian we've talked about this just do you notice what they did what they do they fought off they fought off where are you supposed where are we supposed to go just just fight off remember I said that on the show last week or was it the drive-thru i think it may have been the drive-thru i said the laziest thing besides no dq in every match for lazy booking is i've heard this for the past several years that guys will give in finishes when they're giving, okay, you guys, you get a big schmaz and just fight off. In other words, they get in a big fight in front of everybody and they fight out of the building
Starting point is 02:18:08 and don't come back. You're expected to believe that they're just still fighting somewhere that nobody, not the winner, not the loser, neither one of them came back. No report was given. They just fight off. Lazy booking. So they all fight off to leave twinkle toes laying in the ring so that Christian's music can play. And a Christian comes out slowly, steps in slowly.
Starting point is 02:18:39 They have a face-toe face, slowly. Twinkle-toes offers his hand. Christian won't take it. Twinkle-toes swings. Christian ducks goes for his finish, callous pulls, twinkle-toes out. Christian picks up the belt and the announcers go insane. Like this is the hottest angle it's ever been shot. They stared at each other.
Starting point is 02:19:04 There was a swing and a miss. The heel gets pulled out of the fucking ring. And a baby face picks up the belt and everybody shits themselves verbally. And Christian Cage has still yet to say one goddamn word on this television program. Your comments. There's not too much I could add to that. The 69 me, Don. That's the clip, more than maybe anything else in the history of the show, that I could see horrifying TNT executives.
Starting point is 02:19:33 What the hell was that? They actually thought that was a good idea, that line, to say that? Well, yeah, because it's funny to all the fucking fans of theirs that have never been inside a vagina, except when their delivery date took place. And, oh, he's talking about sex. Ooh. And it's funny. I'd love I you know as a matter of fact I'd love to see them get kicked off a TV for something that's stupid
Starting point is 02:20:01 I bet you still Tony Kahn would try to defend but I'd love to see it just so Tony Kahn could defend his stupid amateur hour fucking talent that he's hired and spend all of his money on I wasn't going to watch this either but again there's the inner struggle within me do I watch this and see how stupid it is
Starting point is 02:20:23 and what they fuck up so that I can make fun of them or do I just skip over it? Of course, the arcade assholia match where the ring is surrounded by their arcade games, and anything goes, no DQ, lazy booking. Blue Toe and Pip Sabian with the Virgin Penelope Ford in their corner against chuckle fucking pockets. Again, more of this.
Starting point is 02:20:50 Because it's funny, because I like to play. Penelope was dressed. like she's about to join a convent of nuns, wasn't she? She's so demure, everything covered up, not showing any skin. Virtually a Quaker. Virtually a Quaker. She looks like she just got appointed to the board of directors of a massage parlor. Anyway, so should I skip it because it's garbage involving subpar talent that nobody
Starting point is 02:21:17 gives a shit about, or should I point out how preposterous, silly, and embarrassing to the profession all of this is? Everybody already knows that. should I mention that these fucking idiots participating in this actually think it's good or that the amateur want to be booking or booker that's booking this shit is proud of it
Starting point is 02:21:38 but everybody already knows that it's a parody of pro wrestling perpetrated by people that aren't athletically talented enough or intellectually bright enough to do the real stuff the real way do it properly so they're performing a parody of it for an audience of a little less than a million people,
Starting point is 02:22:02 give or take, weirdos that don't like pro wrestling and want to laugh at it. And anybody who was ever a serious talent in the business or had any respect for it should refuse to participate in this program. And or definitely in this match. And I'm looking at Jim Ross and Tony Chivani at this point. And maybe not Tony, because Tony was out of the business,
Starting point is 02:22:24 for 20 years. I know he's had a bunch of kids. Maybe he needs the money. If you come out and say, look, I know what I'm doing is embarrassing, but I need the money, then I could even have some sympathy there for people that are in a financial position where they need the money. I know Jim Ross doesn't need any money. He's got more money than he can spend if he starts now. I'm looking at the Arn Anderson's and the, well, not Jake Roberts. He's never had any integrity, but it got a Tully, who was more than happy to tell you what was wrong with you and how to correct it back in the day
Starting point is 02:23:03 and, and, and exists when shit like this is going on. It was Pip and Bluto having amateurish, bad, sloppy brawling, taking chance on getting hurt and hurting each other, reckless dangerous bumps for no reason because nobody gives a shit about these people or anything they're doing because it's all phony but somebody needs to fucking stand up chris thatlander came back and finally disproved my theory that everybody that comes out of a box gets over
Starting point is 02:23:40 because she did and she didn't what are the odds she hurts herself again or somebody else first is what i'm wondering and as a matter of right as i wondered that she gave penelope before to power slam off the apron through an air hockey table. They just happened to be sitting at ringside. That just happened to be made of cardboard. I mean, that was not an air hockey table. You know, and then Bluto picks up an empty or cardboard arcade game and they talk, oh my God, look at the strength.
Starting point is 02:24:09 And it's obvious. It's one of those Ed Wood Plan 9 from outer space fucking cardboard tombstones. Yeah, because when he picked it up, you could see the bottom. It's just a hole. There's nothing in it. Well, and he picked it was so easily moved. Air was blowing it anyway. Um, minivan pulls up and it's Trent.
Starting point is 02:24:28 He's back and being driven by his mother who gives him a kiss on the cheek so he can go join the fight. I wrote at the point- Great timing. She's lucky she didn't hit traffic or anything. Oh yeah, if she'd have hit traffic down there in Florida, she could have been way late. At that point, I wrote, grown adults are doing this and trying to keep straight faces. So Pip got power slam through a table off a stage. you know, Trent's mother kissed him and he went into the fight.
Starting point is 02:24:58 This right here is what you get when you take frustrated outlaw independent wrestling talent that have never been anybody in wrestling and for good reason and you put them on national TV with no guidance and no parameters set and let them make up their own shit. This is what you get. And these jackoffs think that this is good and somehow a proper representation of the sport of wrestling.
Starting point is 02:25:24 And then, of course, the baby faces win, and then everybody's smiling, including Trent's mother. And, boy, if you didn't like what I had to say about Penelope Ford, best friends, and Bluto and Pip, you can imagine what I'm thinking about Chuck
Starting point is 02:25:42 Taylor's mother, or Trent's mother, or whichever one of their mothers, they're all a bunch of mothers. And where I was going with that a minute ago is somebody ought to fucking stand up. and say, you know what, if you're going to make a television show this silly and this phony and this rotten, include me out of it. And the reason I say Jim Ross is because I think he's got the goddamn, the cachet, as they say,
Starting point is 02:26:07 the power, the reputation, the respect from these people, that they would at least listen to him and say, well, okay, what can we not do? And then he could say like most of this shit, but don't bury me. don't make me have to go out there and call a bunch of fucking jackoffs from the jiffy lube doing a fucking comedy sketch of a wrestling match. Don't bury me like that. I was somebody, just because I'm taking your money for your fucking upstart promotion, doesn't mean that I've given up all of my principles.
Starting point is 02:26:43 I was an important person in this business and I will not be embarrassed this way. At least somebody could say something. I mean, I know that this is a new happening that up until the past few years you didn't have to ask when somebody wanted to book you on a show is the invisible man going to be on the card? Or is anybody going to break out into a dance routine?
Starting point is 02:27:09 Or are they fighting over something silly and being assisted by one of their mothers or whatever? It wasn't until just a few years ago. I had to ask Cord Bauer. I had to ask Liverlip Ligana before the NWA thing, is the invisible man around? Is everybody going to be serious before I agree to take this booking? And when I went down to the, I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 02:27:33 I went down to the Hall of Fame in 2017, right, 2017. And we did the thing with Kenny McIntosh. He was working for those what culture people at the time. So was James Dixon. So they rode down with me. We shot some stuff. I own that footage now. One of these days will be edited.
Starting point is 02:27:50 because they got sideways with what culture, because what culture, I don't know what they were doing, and I didn't want anybody, but Kenny being involved in the production of it. But anyway, I did one of the what culture events that they were running that weekend, as well as the ride down in the documentary shoot,
Starting point is 02:28:07 as well as the Hall of Fame ceremony, and then one of Jim Ross's shows, like it was at the House of Blues or was that Texas, one of his stand-up shows. That's what I did that weekend. So at the What Culture event, it was a small show. There was 500 people there. It was a small building, but it was close to where I was staying.
Starting point is 02:28:30 It wasn't a goddamn, wasn't meant to be a big national television taping, but I get there and I'm ready to do the color. And James Dixon comes to me, says, well, we've had a substitution. A name that they had booked, had to pull out, and they had to scramble and get something that resembled a name to replace him. and they came up with Joey Ryan. And he said, I'm just, I want to tell you, because I know you've had, you know, issues with the things he does. And I said, well, James, it's your show. I'm a visitor here.
Starting point is 02:29:02 And I will in a professional manner call all the other matches. But if he does the dick flip, I'm going to get up and walk out. As a matter of fact, I will not call his match at all. I won't start it if he's going to do the dick flip. Just have somebody call. I got a phone call in the back. send somebody else out to take while I go address my business they can call his match if he's doing the dick thing but I won't be doing it because I'm not going to fucking do it
Starting point is 02:29:29 and that's when he said well you know what I think it's a bunch of fucking horse shit too and I don't want him to do it on the show I'm booking so I'll just tell him don't do it and so I called his match because he wasn't doing the dick clip so I honored my part and the booker informed him not to do the dick flip because it was an afternoon show and there was kids in the audience anyway. And so what does he do? He has to do something. So he did the deal where they have the double knockout and then the fucking guy falls head
Starting point is 02:30:00 first into his incredibly strong and vulnerable dick and sells his head. And at least you could cover that. Well, he must have a cup on. There's plenty of room in those tights. Not much else down there. Whatever. But at some point, people who are professionals who care about, who have some pride and integrity,
Starting point is 02:30:22 who ever had any respect for the business, who don't need to take people's money because they have enough, need to stand up and say no. You guys want to have this goddamn four-finger, cluster fuck on national television. Do not get shit all over my face. If I'm going to be on this program, act serious and be professional,
Starting point is 02:30:43 or I just won't be on a fucking program. And then pick who you want. And it's easy. the other person can go home. But everybody just accepting this gives me the sour belches. Closing thoughts, Brian. That match was a disaster.
Starting point is 02:31:02 The whole Trent coming back thing, it just put a period or an exclamation point of what was the overall silliness and stupidness of it. I hate that Tony Con licensed the pixies where is my mind for Orange Cassidy. What now? It's a great song by a great band.
Starting point is 02:31:21 I heard them playing what I thought was a different song. I didn't know what it was and didn't care because it was pockets, so I didn't listen. It's a great song. It completely didn't work. I don't think it works for Orange Cassidy. Tony Kahn was probably in the back. Who knows if he's high or not. But he was listening to the Pixies and he said,
Starting point is 02:31:38 you know, it would be a great idea if we got this for Orange Cassidy. What is this song? Because I couldn't tell you this song if you held a gun to my head. What does it have to do with anything that Orange Cassidy would have? have to do with. Well, I guess the lyric, where is my mind? And the idea, here's this guy who has no mind. I really don't know. I mean, okay, I'm following that. First thing I see when I look at pockets is this guy's fucking witless. This was garbage. There was so much on this show that wasn't good. The one match that was the best pure wrestling match was the one that was counterproductive
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Starting point is 02:33:21 AEW, May the 5th, Cinco de Mayo. How far did Jericho sink in that airbag? It looked like that Ford Mustang that landed on my fence and the airbag deployed. Oh, before we start talking about this television program, I've got two emails I want to read from listeners who I believe have pretty much summed up everything that I have to say about this company at least. And this is, we mentioned this viewer or listener is referencing Matt Hardy defending the state of the business.
Starting point is 02:33:59 So I'm saying I'm not starting another thing with Matt. They've been thankfully very quiet. But he references what Matt has been saying lately. It's Eric from nowhere. He doesn't mention. Hi, Jim. I'm a huge fan of your show and wanted to offer my comments about Matt Hardy defending the state of the business lately.
Starting point is 02:34:19 Let me first say that I'm 33 years old and became a fan during the attitude era, but unlike any other fandom I can think of, instead of going forward and enjoying the product as it has developed further, I have instead gone backwards to eras before my time. When I see what has been on TV the last couple of years, I don't see the appeal whatsoever and believe this is why the product is becoming more and more niche. What characters are there to care about? Where's the believability or consistency? How can I, as a viewer, suspend my disbelief?
Starting point is 02:34:51 The biggest things that have occurred in wrestling in the past dozen years or so are the returns of the Rock and Brock Lesnar to the WWE. There aren't new stars anyone cares about. The numbers reflect that. I wish people like Matt Hardy would respectfully, shut the fuck up! Because although I respect the years he has put into the business, it's clear that if the trajectory remains the same,
Starting point is 02:35:12 the product will eventually disappear. You can only make so many documentaries about Stone Cold Steve Austin and have staying up here in new fledgling promotions for so long. And one more and even a quicker one from Matt. While watching A&E, while watching AEW blood and guts, my six-year-old daughter walked in. She started to get pretty worked up about the match.
Starting point is 02:35:37 While maybe not appropriate for a kid to watch this, I couldn't help but enjoy seeing an honest reaction by someone that thought it was a real fight. Then when MJF pushed Jericho off the top of the cage, she said, at least he fell on those soft boxes. Do we wonder why we're in the position we're in when nobody gives a shit anymore about their product and about what it looks like?
Starting point is 02:36:05 And I was like you on the Pilman documentary until the finish took it down for you. I was going to like the way. war games match until they had to fucking put a hat on a hat. Except for the potatoes that they were throwing out and the fact that those guys have not had a lot of
Starting point is 02:36:27 experience working in a crowded cage like that and I was afraid somebody was going to get their leg broken, the wild bumps they were taken and everything. They worked their asses off and most everybody did a good job. And as soon as Chris Jericho got in, it went to hell in a handbasket. Because then they started doing entertainment. and bullshit.
Starting point is 02:36:47 That was the last match, so we'll get there in a minute, but that's what the poof. The more they build up to a big show, the bigger the poof at the end. The exploding ring went poof. The airbag went poof. And I understand the live fans were pissed
Starting point is 02:37:12 because they didn't know until they got there to Daly's place that the first hour of the program was going to be on tape because they couldn't hang the cage over the ring for the blood and guts for the war games because they have no ceiling in which they can support that kind of weight over an outdoor amphitheater. So instead they taped the first hour of the program
Starting point is 02:37:35 and then did two live interviews and did the match in front of the people that bought tickets. And in some cases, airplane tickets to fly there and see that. and they got to watch it was like going to a fucking high-priced drive-in movie I even their fans were pissed over this and rightfully so right
Starting point is 02:37:51 I can understand if you can't you can't hang a cage in thin air but nobody realized that to be able to tell the people who had bought tickets to see this live television program and all these matches they're going to watch an hour of television and then see one match live
Starting point is 02:38:09 what the fuck was that all about That's a bait and switch. That's what that is. Again, it was early. It was before the Blood and Guts match, but I had heard that a few fans requested refunds. I don't know what to think about that. I mean, if it's five fans and it's before anything starts,
Starting point is 02:38:25 they're just reacting to the idea they're going to be watching wrestling on a big screen and reacting to it. I think it's okay if you announce that's what you're doing in advance. It's bullshit if people show up there expecting to see these matches, and they're watching a giant monitor. that I mean even in the in the attitude era we used to get because we had fucking thousands of people in NBA arenas so that was magnified on a bigger scale by just even a same percentage of people that might be upset it's more people when they went to so many backstage segments where they would be doing bullshit entertainment on the screen for 10 minutes in the arena and the people that came and did left their homes, paid for parking, bought tickets, got the fucking $8 hot dog,
Starting point is 02:39:14 and they're sitting in an arena watching television. People never liked that. But, you know, I saw a lot of Twitter response about it. But anyway, that's what happens when you shoehorn yourself into a situation where you have to have this match. Well, they were going to have it in what Newark at the Prudential Center last year, they could have flown the cage and done it professionally and had the matches in front of everybody,
Starting point is 02:39:40 but now they have no restraint. They've had to have this match. They've had to book this match. So now they're going to have it. Anyway, we got to blood and guts. The pinnacle and the dinner circle, the big showdown between these two teams that have never faced each other before
Starting point is 02:40:01 and one group didn't exist five weeks ago. And we now have the ultimate showdown. and I thought, I realized, this is why I figured when, I realized when you can't predict AEW, when, has it ever happened that the heel team won war games?
Starting point is 02:40:24 I'm thinking. They won in 91? Okay, I wasn't around then. Horseman versus Sting, Steiner's and Pilman. That's right. They beat poor Pilman with Sid power bombed him on his head. And that was, and remember he took,
Starting point is 02:40:39 Sid took Brian up for the power bomb, but he was so stupid. He didn't realize there was a roof on the cage and Brian's feet hit and stopped his upward trajectory and Sid just dropped him right on his head. Hence the roof of this blood and guts cage was far away from where Sid Vicious could power bomb someone. Yeah, well, and that's, that was an improvement because that's same thing that happened to JJ in the very first war games in 87 in Atlanta. The finish was going to be the road warriors given the doomsday device to JJ off the top, but the cage roof was so low. that Hawk came off at a different trajectory to try to get the clothesline in and Animal couldn't
Starting point is 02:41:17 get him turned right and JJ went down sideways on his shoulder. Separated the shoulder bad, had to get flown back to Charlotte, had immediate surgery on it. Um, so anyway, at least they raised the roof. They raised the roof, just not with the people on this one. I will say, I thought the look was great. I thought the cage looked really good. I'm glad they had a roof on it. Yeah. I like the height of it. I thought in terms of the appearance, it looked really good. They got it right. They got a bunch right here.
Starting point is 02:41:48 They got a few segments right until it all went south. The cage looked great, as you said. They explained the rules. They were doing the legitimate rules. There's no way the match can end until everybody's in. And then it's submission or surrender, no pinfalls. Dax and Sammy Guavara starting was perfect. because that dax is arn anderson and that was arn spot to start the best workers start and this was a you know a prime example of that and they opened up at a hundred miles an hour with wrestling spots and then fighting but they kept the pace up and dax was bumping like crazy and then sammy runs dax into the cage for his color and thank god they had blood in a cage match is as i mentioned it's the low fat twinkie rule if can't eat the fat fat
Starting point is 02:42:40 don't eat Twinkie. If you can't have blood, don't have a cage match. I see people say, oh, they shouldn't have blood in this day and age. What the fuck? This is not a bank addicted drug robber in some fucking outlaw garbage show in New Jersey in somebody's backyard slicing up some other fucking moron.
Starting point is 02:43:04 These guys, they can easily fucking test, and these guys, they can easily, they've got medical reports. ports on these guys. And I don't think either one of these guys are out there doing garbage matches in fucking, you know, combat zone wrestling or some shit like that. So,
Starting point is 02:43:23 no, I'd a whole lot rather get juice than almost anything these guys do. Because everything else they do is so fucking dangerous these days. You could actually hurt yourself. The fucking blade, you're in charge your own destiny and all it is is fucking blood. Anyway. uh dax got the color good first five minutes and then spears was next in he brought a chair in i wish
Starting point is 02:43:49 they i knew they were gonna i thought if they keep one chair okay then there was another chair in there and finally they couldn't control themselves but it wasn't really bad for a while but they bring a chair in so now they've got a hat on a hat the weapons in a cage sammy fought against both of them but they took over they whacked him with a good chair shot he took three hours to get his color and he didn't get much. It was a pap smear, but still, he tried. None of these guys are experienced with getting color because nobody ever does it anymore. Ortiz came in and made a big comeback and they were following the war games format very well. When the odds are even, the baby faces are up. When the heel has the advantage, the baby face is down.
Starting point is 02:44:39 when the fucking next baby face comes in all the heels feed him they make a big comeback that way you keep it going Ortiz brought another chair in but they had a big brawl they tried to get a little fancy I think Ortiz was going to shoot Dax off and Sammy was going to do a springboard
Starting point is 02:45:01 but Sammy fell off the top on the springboards Dax just put the brakes on but this is the one thing that I'm glad nobody got hurt seriously. But when the ring starts getting filled up like that, or the rings, or everybody's into one ring, and you've got the cage already, and you've got weapons, and you're trying to do springboards into double teams,
Starting point is 02:45:27 it's just, it's busy in there, and slow down and keep it a little bit more basic, and shit, you won't end up falling on your ass in front of somebody. in front of God and everybody on national TV. When Cash got in, he went completely fucking nuts, and he did a big comeback. And Sammy was a Super Bowl through this whole thing. He took a great bump over the top onto the cage,
Starting point is 02:45:52 or into the cage, but he almost broke Ortiz's leg when he landed on the apron because Ortiz was laying there. Like I said, the guys were working their asses off. It was reckless, but it was a good match. It wasn't like I was saying, oh, this is, fucking stupid. I was concerned for their safety because they're green. Santana came in, big fucking comeback. Um,
Starting point is 02:46:18 they went to a break. And when they came back from the break, Wardlow was in, Sammy was still trying to cripple himself with all these bumps he was taken. And then Hager came in. And, you know, he started fucking chucking people around. And they kept it moving until finally there's hager and ward low face to face and the people are up and everybody else is down and there's the big guys do you see why brian now these two guys the people want to see them in their minds fight more than they actually want to see it when the fight happens yeah and i'm given the blame on a lot of this to hager because war Lord Lowe's newer and he's greener, but Hager's awkward with a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:47:13 But this was an awkward exchange that, where nobody just knows how to fucking drawback and throw punches. They're trying forearms. Then they're struggling against the cage. There was no bumps. And then other people got involved. But it just, it wasn't, it wasn't the clash of the Titans. Hey, what did you think of the outfits? The inner circle all came out with these prison units.
Starting point is 02:47:36 uniform. Oh, yeah. I dug the fact that Santana and Ortiz had them makeup on. I thought they looked pretty cool, but I don't know if it was just Jericho or the idea in general. I wasn't crazy about the prison uniforms. Well, I didn't mind it. They all looked like, kind of like nails really looked when he got sent to jail. But also, somebody tweeted me a picture that Jericho on the back had Stony Mountain Penitentiary. Is he trying to give you a knock? I said, well, fuck. I said, if he was going to do that, the Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary isn't that far from Knoxville. He could have been real instead of fake.
Starting point is 02:48:09 But then somebody actually Googled this. And there is a stony mountain penitentiary in Winnipeg or in Manitoba somewhere. And I didn't know they had mountains in Winnipeg, Manitoba. I didn't know they had prisons in Canada. I thought everybody was too polite for that. But apparently that was real. I could take it or leave it. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:48:33 we were almost, I'm thinking they've almost got this, but God, there's a disturbing amount of time left in the show at this point because I said, here's one of the most important things about the war games. Once everybody gets in, your clock is ticking. You can wear out your welcome easily if you don't keep it moving and get to the point. Once all 10 guys are in, I wish they'd have called to ask me that before they had this match. because they found out the hard way.
Starting point is 02:49:08 MJF got in and proceeded to go get heat on everybody with all the other heels helping him and taunted Jericho who wasn't in yet. And cash somehow, how did cash get busted open? That was during a break or something. He was covered in blood. I don't know, but, and I've always said at Dax, one of the best workers in the whole business,
Starting point is 02:49:27 cash may be the most underrated guy in the whole business. Everything he does looks good. There's intensity. He knows that it get color. become a bigger and bigger fan of cash in the last year or so there was so much of it I'm not sure whether that
Starting point is 02:49:42 that was one of the guys that might have been unintentional but I didn't see how to happen but anyway all this built up all we need is one more guy in and then we're gold right here comes
Starting point is 02:49:57 Chris Jericho and I swear to God at that point I knew we were in trouble. When's the last time you saw the last baby face come in in the war games and both teams separate everything comes to a halt and they all stand in separate rings? I can answer that. Yeah, I don't remember that spot ever.
Starting point is 02:50:25 That never happened. And everything came to a halt and then they do a charge and a schmaws, but fuck, they're in two different rings. when they charged and met each other in the middle they either had to lean over the ropes or climb through and it looked like a fucking cluster fuck. It wasn't a big meeting of boom, boom, boom. It was, oh, we got to get through all these ropes.
Starting point is 02:50:49 And then they, Jericho pulls out of baseball back that he brought in in his jumpsuit. And he hit several people with it and then lost it and dropped it. And now it's gotten preposterous. If you're in that
Starting point is 02:51:07 situation in a cage with five guys on the other side that want to kill you and you've got a baseball bat in your hands, what's the chances that this match is going to go on too much longer? Fuck. And then they went to a break, and when they came back from the break, they had pulled up the canvas and the padding on one of the rings, and they're giving pile drivers on the wood, there's a baseball bat still floating around, there's chairs in the ring, Jericho is using the baseball bat to choke people. It seemed to me that Jericho, not even talking about the bump at the end,
Starting point is 02:51:45 that Jericho was, I don't want to say putting in the least effort, but he didn't bring anywhere near the intensity everyone else brought to this match. He looked blown up, except he hadn't been in there long enough to be blown up. At one point, he was just walking around asking Aubrey Edward shit on the floor. He didn't do any of his stuff, but that's, I don't know, maybe he was hurt, maybe he's got COVID. I don't know what the fuck's going on, but the point is, what kind of idiot in a fucking gang war uses a baseball bat to choke somebody?
Starting point is 02:52:15 That's why you don't need the bat because it's preposterous. So, Guevara did the Shane O'Mack Coast Coast drop kick on the chair on cash or dax one of the other, but the point now, it had completely at the point where they
Starting point is 02:52:31 could have had them and needed to be going home, now it's degenerated into an indie garbage weapons match. And as soon as Jericho got in, that's when the fucking momentum changed. They stopped everything. Then they started it up again. Then all the weapons and taking the ring apart. There's so many chairs and bats and batons and loose ropes and torn up padding. And it's going on forever. They've lost the fucking plot. And then they go to another break. And
Starting point is 02:53:01 I said, we're still 12 minutes left in the show when they're overdue to go to this finish. And there's a reason. There's a reason. that the war games always ended not long after all ten guys get in. And so after the break, I actually had to go back and watch the picture and picture to understand during the break when nobody's watching. I've got an 82-inch fucking television. I don't watch that picture and picture because it's too small. Tully knocked the referee out on the floor, got the key, and unlocked the door.
Starting point is 02:53:37 and MJF got out and of course what's the thing you do when you get out of a cage? You climb to the top of it out of sheer fear and Jericho is following him all during the break so when we come back from the break MJF is on top of the fucking cage Jericho is getting there
Starting point is 02:53:55 they put another hat on a hat and the entire match down below ceases to exist or even be shot on camera while Jericho gets the walls of Jericho on MJF. And MJF is milking the tap, right? But then Jericho on camera, he couldn't even use his right hand
Starting point is 02:54:17 that was behind him and off camera. He had to use the one facing the hard camera. And thank, by the way, thanks to AEW botches on Twitter at AEW botches for playing the slow mo of this in one of their gifts so that we could see it well, but I caught it anyway. Jericho's got the fucking crab. on MJF and he reaches down and gives him the Iggy on his thigh
Starting point is 02:54:39 for MJF to ballshot him and MJF ball shots him and then MJF gets the arm bar, the Fujiwar arm bar the salt of the earth and Jericho pulls his blade off his wrist and keeps it he didn't need it for another three minutes MJF is working on the arm
Starting point is 02:55:01 I noticed that too So now the camera's on MJF and Jericho forever. The rest of the match has ceased to exist. They're up there and Jericho is teasing, tapping by waving the hand that he's holding the blade in and his thumb and forefinger. And then MJF puts his fucking ring on and punches Jericho and Jericho's dough goes down and gets his color. And everything stops again. And then Tony Chivani gets to say, gets to call MJF a piece of shit.
Starting point is 02:55:37 He only said it once. He said crap later on. So apparently they have a quota on the number of times that their formerly professional announced crew, now a bunch of juvenile delinquents can say shit on TV. So everything came to a halt. MJF teases pushing Jericho off the edge of the cage unless they surrender. Jericho stands there staggering, but still on his feet, in the perfect position to be pushed off,
Starting point is 02:56:11 while the teammates ponder this conundrum that they've got in front of them, if somebody was going to threaten yelling, saying, I'm going to push him off this thing. If you were him, the guy about to get pushed off, wouldn't you just drop down on your belly and grab a hold of that thing? Yeah. Okay. so anyway
Starting point is 02:56:33 I'm going to push him no don't I'm going to push him no don't I'm going to push him no don't finally Sammy says fuck it we give up and then the camera gets a close up of Jericho talking TMJF saying
Starting point is 02:56:49 turn around and milk it and basically turn around and milked it and then he gave Jericho a gentle push and Jericho did the Nesty Plunge Trust fall off the top of the cage onto what
Starting point is 02:57:05 the announcers have already said is a concrete stage that is far, far underneath him and Jericho hits that concrete stage and it goes poof poof
Starting point is 02:57:19 it went poof it was an airbag under fake pieces of metal made out of card that were not only obvious, but flapping in the breeze. And it just went,
Starting point is 02:57:44 and they didn't even pick up on the fact that everybody went, when he was coming down, everybody was going, they replayed it from different angles and made it even more obvious. The cardboard metal plates flapping in the breeze that had no weight to them, the airbag that you could see underneath him, that Jericho with one eye open,
Starting point is 02:58:12 talking to people that were checking on his safety. Then they replayed it another time. Then they came back to more, Chris Jericho with one eye open, talking to people concerned with his. Nobody was concerned about his safety, because everybody could see he just landing on a fucking airbag. And I swear to fucking God, if I'm lying I'm flying my feet have not left the ground
Starting point is 02:58:36 there were people on Twitter excusing that by saying well what did you expect him to take a bump on the concrete no we don't expect him to take a bump at all unless they can make it look right when's the last time fucking Stallone or Schwarzenegger
Starting point is 02:58:57 or the rock knocked the goddamn terrorist off the building or threw somebody off the fucking roof and they landed on an airbag on screen if they're making movies here then there's no excuse for it if they're doing professional wrestling there's no excuse for it
Starting point is 02:59:17 because either way in whatever art form they believe that they're applying their trade it was bad either way you don't see the fucking villain in the climactic scene of an action adventure movie land on the fucking airbag and you shouldn't see it in wrestling.
Starting point is 02:59:38 So if you can't do a bump right or make a bump look good, don't do the fucking bump. And to the credit of some of the AEW fans, many people were, obviously, like with the exploding ring, bullshit over this, as Vince McMahon would say. They're bullshit.
Starting point is 03:00:02 But a lot of them are going, well, he couldn't land on the stage. Then don't fucking take off if you can't make the landing, Einstein. Was this one of the more embarrassing things you've seen? I think it was crazy as other people have because I didn't expect much. Once they got up there and it became apparent they were going to throw them off, I figured what it was going to be. Now, I will say, I've seen a lot of people go off Titan-Trons and stages and cages and everything else.
Starting point is 03:00:32 this one did look more phony than almost all of them. It didn't help that when the camera show in Jericho laying there on top of the fake metal, pretending he's dead, you could see him talking to the referees around him and opening one eye and trying to see what's going on. I mean, that didn't need to be on camera. They had the worst camera shots all night of anybody, people blading, people holding blades, people talking to each other, people with one eye open. gripping their pillow tight in their crash pad.
Starting point is 03:01:07 Everybody that saw that that's not an AEW lunatic mark that just believes they can do no wrong laughed. And that is not the, I don't think that's the goddamn reaction that they should have been going for when there was nine other guys in there cutting their heads, bashing each other's brains out,
Starting point is 03:01:35 hitting each other with chairs and objects, bumping off that fucking metal cage that's real metal, working their ass off, right wrong or indifferent, to get to a point where the big star comes in and takes his big bump that I'm sure was his big idea, and it's fucking phony and embarrassing, and people are laughing. He just shit all over those guys at everything they did.
Starting point is 03:02:01 and that's ridiculous. He even took the fall like it was a goddamn a trust fall. Okay, I'm going to freeze just like this. He's landing on a fucking airbag to begin with and he's still fucking just, I'm just going to fall straight back and keep my arms in. You can see Vince McMahon at 75 years old
Starting point is 03:02:21 doing that as a run through and pop it up and smiling. It, I don't understand how the, they think that this is going to go anywhere with this thing. If they every time they they build a big match or a big moment or a big of
Starting point is 03:02:40 whatever, it's a popcorn fart. Exploding ring poof airbag poof. This is not the first airbag they've used, but this really looked bad. Who was it? Moxley and Twinkletoes
Starting point is 03:02:56 had some kind of airbag deal. They did a while back and that looked equally stupid. But every time they advertise something major, the last thought that most people have of it is,
Starting point is 03:03:14 what the fuck was that? Are they serious? So I don't see why they who could not be offended. I know you see you saw it coming, so you just rolled your eyes, but who could not be offended by that as the finish of a major blood and guts match.
Starting point is 03:03:33 And a guy falls onto a crash pad. The end. I think plenty of people saw it and weren't offended. They may have been laughing at it, but that's different than being offended by it. Okay. Well, they see, I'm offended. They laugh. I'm offended much in the same way as if I was a, let's say, Stephen Spielberg and I saw
Starting point is 03:03:51 some amateur fucking director do a rotten movie where you see the fucking guy fall on the fucking crash pad in the movie. I would be offended as a director. of moviegoers may just laugh and say, well, that was funny, but I would be offended as a professional director. You know, I like the match for the most part. I didn't like the weapons, the chair.
Starting point is 03:04:12 The bat was especially problematic to me. It was unnecessary. I liked it. And then when Jericho came in, like you said, noticeable change in pace. I felt like every time they showed him my camera, he was just walking around, not doing anything. But then when they got to the top of the cage,
Starting point is 03:04:29 I really didn't like that because why do you need that? You're in war games. You don't have to go on top of the cage. It's not unique. We've seen plenty of people climb to the top of a big cage and take a fall. It's happened way too often in wrestling.
Starting point is 03:04:40 If Chris wanted to be a man, why do he take that fucking hip toss off like cactus did and just go through the fucking desk? But I hated the actual finish beyond the actual crash landing. I hated the idea that MJF's threatening to throw Chris and Sammy's begging him for 30 seconds.
Starting point is 03:04:58 And then that's it. referee calls it. I hated the finish itself beyond the noticeably fake landing. Well, and see, there's the problem they booked themselves into. How do the heels win the ultimate blow-off match and there are no rules? They can't cheat because there's no rules. So you have to get creative, which everybody involved in this fucking venture has a well, they don't have a hard time being creative. They just have a hard time with
Starting point is 03:05:29 good shit. They're creative out their ass constantly. And it smells like it came out of their ass too. But now then the problem becomes, okay, at first we were saying, well, how the fuck they're going to beat the heels in their first match together because the heels never win war games. It's the ultimate blow-off match. Okay, they solved that problem. They swerved us there. The heels won the war games. now how are the baby face is going to get even
Starting point is 03:06:00 what's a more ultimate blowoff match than the war games how's the now they've got to figure out well what the fuck do we do is it napalm or a you know a live hand grenade and we pull the pen
Starting point is 03:06:19 and you know stick it in each other's fucking tights I don't fucking know but it this is the goddamnest program I've ever seen. We have suddenly have a network TV war games main event between the former top heel team and a new top heel team that wasn't a group five weeks ago.
Starting point is 03:06:42 And the first match that they ever have all in together with each other is a war games match. And the heels win that. So it's anybody's guess where this is going to end up. And I guess that's what they're going for. They don't want anybody to be able to guess where it's going to end up. It's just that little pesky thing about any of this shit. making sense that provides the fly in their ointment. That would be any closing thoughts on blood and guts.
Starting point is 03:07:09 I wasn't as offended or bothered by the finish, but I didn't like the finish for the reason that I said before, and of course the ridiculous fake crash landing. Lots of blades. I don't know if I've ever noticed as many live when watching a match before I rewounded and watched again. Well, see, and that's another thing. When you've got magicians that have only done the
Starting point is 03:07:29 make a quarter disappear trick twice in their life, they're not as good as making that quarter disappear as the ones that have been doing it for 30 years. Beyond that, overall, I thought AEW did a good job with war games. If you could overlook the finish. That wasn't the first nine guys. I was with them.
Starting point is 03:07:51 It wasn't until Jericho got in and the whole tenor and tone of the match and pace of the match and everything changed and they started doing the entertainment gaga portion instead of the slob or knocker that they were having I would have you know all they had to do
Starting point is 03:08:08 was once Jericho got in do another four or five fucking minutes leave leave part of the ring intact and fucking do a goddamn finish but instead they go another 15 or whatever and do that stupid shit off the roof
Starting point is 03:08:24 and expose their crash pad I haven't even given any thought whatsoever to how the heels might have won, but one seems to think that because Tully had already interfered and gotten the key from the referee, and Tully was a wild card, could, I don't know, crazy thought, could not the manager have done something that fucked one of the baby faces so that the heels could go over in the middle of the ring, just me.
Starting point is 03:09:00 And the guy wouldn't be able to surrender, but if he was passed out, then that would be the same thing. The referee could fucking call it. And then somebody's going to say, well, no, wait,
Starting point is 03:09:10 if it's an I quit match, the unconscious guy can't lose because he's knocked out and he can't say I quit. Fuck you. Live in the real world. Don't tell me made up wrestling rules from the past five years
Starting point is 03:09:22 that have never been in effect before. But I don't know. I don't know what's, They almost had it. The rest of the show mostly was Drek, but they really did a good job with that one until they changed the tone of the whole thing at the end. And then had to insist on telling everybody how phony they are at the last thing that you see on the way out. They got a pay-per-view in what, three weeks?
Starting point is 03:09:52 I think so, the end of the month, yeah. Maybe we will get to see pockets. versus Moxley. No, Omega. Omega, I mean, rather, not pockets and Omega. I hope so. I can only imagine the constipated faces he's going to make
Starting point is 03:10:08 when incredulously this man puts his hands in his pockets. We've never seen them interact in the ring before. Oh, I just can't wait because the one-liners they're going to give me without me even trying. But in all, obviously, they're going to go for Olivier and PAC, but they're trying to get some kind of hoo-ha on TV and they think that Pockets draws TV ratings. So that'll be next week and they'll fuck him off some kind of way.
Starting point is 03:10:35 But I don't... Is anybody clamoring besides the fact that it might be a good match to some people? Is anybody clamoring to see PAC against Kenny Olivier because of the fact that PAC is almost never there and he almost never wins a single match and you know they ain't switching the belt to PAC? It's just a pay-per-view throw-away match. and why would you throw away match his own pay-per-view? You know, I don't think there's a single match.
Starting point is 03:11:01 AEW fans are really clamoring for Kenny Omega to have right now. He's not really, no, because he's already had, even if you're a big AEW fan, he's had the feud with Moxley. You've seen that match several times. Cody's a non-entity. Who else, everything else is about a faction or a tag team, it seems. Realistically, take Omega out of the equation because you're a hatred for him. Who else is there that's been put in that title picture that you'd really,
Starting point is 03:11:25 want to see Omega in there with. Miro, Brian Cage. I'm just trying to think who's been in the singles, Darby Allen. Who? So for the first time in history, they actually have booked themselves into a position that no other wrestling promotion ever in the world has been in
Starting point is 03:11:43 where they have a world champion and have absolutely nobody for him to wrestle that people give a shit about, that he has not already done. Interesting. You want to get to the main event? that really didn't have any heat except with the boys in the locker room and anybody cares about the wrestling business?
Starting point is 03:12:03 What a spectacle this is. And we've pointed out over the last several years about Chris Jericho, the way these feuds have gone where things that should finish the feud happen in the middle of the feud, gimmick matches that make no sense happen. Jericho always comes out on top for no good reason. And this was kind of like the greatest hits of the worst of Chris Jericho all in one match. it only took 15 minutes, but this was 15 of the most embarrassing minutes
Starting point is 03:12:33 that pro wrestling has ever seen. Like you said, they got everything in this one. The match is called barbed wire everywhere. And they had barbed wire around the ring, and they had barbed wire tables in the ring, and tables with barbed wire outside on the floor, and the microphone, the public address microphone, was wrapped in barbed wire.
Starting point is 03:12:57 And Jericho comes out with a barbed wire baseball bat. And they're barbed wire chairs. And what this proved basically was, you got Eddie Kingston, Chris Jericho with all those implements, and it takes 10 minutes to hurt anybody.
Starting point is 03:13:12 They're both a bunch of pussies. What the fuck? And this also, by the way, no DQ, lazy booking, no time limit, blah, blah, blah. and because it's shark week, Jericho's minions
Starting point is 03:13:28 are going to be hung in a shark cage over the ring, so they're stealing another old wrestling stipulation that actually drew big money when it was done right. So they put Hager and Garcia and Daddy Mac MacDady and Cool Hand Luke
Starting point is 03:13:45 in the cage and raise him over the ring, and the first thing I'm thinking is, we're Sammy Guavara. And the announcer said, well, we haven't seen him since he got knocked off the top of the thing or whatever. Well, that's a reason why we'll probably see him in a few minutes. So Ruby Soho, Kingston's lifelong friend and soulmate, has not only the key, but the lifting mechanism to lift the shark cage up and down. So Kingston can get his revenge for her while she keeps the other people at bay. Jericho comes out with that pain maker thing. It was cute in
Starting point is 03:14:23 Japan, I guess. God, D'omighty. And immediately they start. Jericho hits, or Kingston hits Jericho with the barbed wire microphone. Jericho goes down,
Starting point is 03:14:39 goes to his wrist, and guys, I'm not lying, go watch the video. It's not like the Zapruder film. You don't have to analyze this. It's on high definition television. Jericho goes down, pulls his blade, from his wrist and starts gigging on camera.
Starting point is 03:14:58 So the director, realizing this, cuts to a different camera shot so you can see it better. I had a person who shall remain nameless who's been involved in the professional wrestling industry for a number of years. Contact me and say nobody knows how to fucking blade anymore and Jericho's embarrassing.
Starting point is 03:15:23 and I have to agree with that. I can't believe Vince got in touch with you to say that. Well, he was mulling over his retirement. So now Jericho's bleeding, and Kingston gets more barbed wire. They go to the floor, and the ring bell was wrapped in barbed wire. Jericho hit Kingston with it. And here came the sign in fluorescent green, outlaw mud show. And boy, it was.
Starting point is 03:15:49 And I'm going to reference an article that our first friends that PW Insider did in a minute, but let me finish recapping. So Jericho gave Kingston a Hurricane Rana off the top buckle into a barbed wire board as a break spot. And they go to the break
Starting point is 03:16:09 when they come back, it's a sloppy, phony looking fight. And Kingston's back is all cut up from this ridiculousness. And they're on the apron and they're teasing taking a bump off the ring onto a barbed wire table. And then Kingston vertical suplexes
Starting point is 03:16:25 Jericho off the apron and both go through the barbed wire. This is so embarrassing. Jericho used to be a star. Then here comes Ty Cunty to ringside. And old TC gets on Ruby Soho.
Starting point is 03:16:41 And then here comes old Anna Jay, who as we will recall, was friends with old Thai until a couple weeks ago when they turned on each other had some issue and then Anna Jay turns back on Ruby Soho and joins up with Ty Cante again. So a lot of these people are very fickle.
Starting point is 03:17:07 And so they lower the, they beat up Ruby Soho. They lower the shark cage with the heels in it. You're forgetting a big part. Well, they've got the key too. By this point, the fans are groaning. Oh yeah, well, I mean, it's abominable. This is rotten, and the people are just grumbling, as you mentioned, and groaning while all this is transparent in front of them. But the best part that really, now they started to giggle, at least they entertained the fans with this, because Ty Conti got the key and couldn't unlock the padlock on the shark cage to let the heels out.
Starting point is 03:17:46 and she's fiddling and she's fiddling and she's fiddling and finally Brian I know you know because you saw it but I will surprise the fans listening with the method in which the heels got out of the shark cage you want to tell them or you want me to tell them oh please you tell them I'll tell them they just turn sideways and walk through the bars I'm not making this up they locked the heels in a cage so they couldn't interfere in the match
Starting point is 03:18:18 and when the girl was too stupid to turn the key in the padlock and open the door they just turned sideways and walk through the bars. So now they all got in the ring and got fake, bad-looking heat on Kingston. But then here came all the baby faces and you couldn't even tell which just now
Starting point is 03:18:40 it's 10 or 12 guys fighting at ringside. But they got in that big brawl 10 guys and then Well, you know what they did, Brian. They fought off. They just fought off. Ten or 12 people are having a fucking wild hayroob all around the ring
Starting point is 03:18:59 and suddenly they've disappeared so that Kingston and Jericho can take more bumps into barbed wire. And everybody else disappears. Then Kingston comes at Jericho with a chair wrapped in barbed wire, swings it like Paul Bunyan. Jericho jumps up and gives Kingston
Starting point is 03:19:16 a code breaker and Kingston's chair comes down on Jericho's face and he breaks his own nose. Then Jericho gets the chair. Just clarify, you're not using hyperbole. He broke his own nose. No, he broke his own nose.
Starting point is 03:19:34 His nose is broken. And he's the one that did it. His move to Kingston propelled the barbed wire wrapped chair into his own face. And we're not done yet. Because now Jericho gets the chair. and hits Kingston with the two fakedest, lightest,
Starting point is 03:19:59 most obviously worked chair shots in history. Remember when Hulk Hogan did the worst chair shot ever in, what, WCW in 1997? This was worse. And then Kingston comes back from being hit with a barbed wire chair, but not hard, and hits his back fist and gets a two count. and then he wraps Jericho up in barbed wire and gets him in a stretch plum, but now here comes Sammy Guava. And he just jumps in the ring, gets on Kingston.
Starting point is 03:20:31 And they're starting to get heat on Kingston again. And there's poor referee Donald Stevens, completely powerless to do anything about this. By the way, did you hear that Aubrey Edwards changed her name to Donald Stevens? Well, that's the name that people, were alleging she uses online to have people have content taken down. She's using a fake name, an alien.
Starting point is 03:20:56 Yes, yes, with addresses tied to the AEW offices. And apparently she's all elite, though, because one of the signs also was Don Stevens's all elite. So then Jericho hits a
Starting point is 03:21:11 Judas elbow with barbed wire wrapped around his elbow. And again, that's where my DVR froze. because they were so drastically low on time. They weren't trying to run over again. They're just always low on time because they can't manage their time. So I had to watch the clip of the finish on Twitter.
Starting point is 03:21:33 And I can't describe to you what they were trying to do because they were going to do a thing where it was Sammy and Jericho were going to hold Kingston, but Kingston was going to do some kind of duck and their shit was going to backfire. but by the time they botched it once and then Eddie kind of halfway turned around and shoved somebody it ended up looking like that Sammy just hauled off and punched Jericho in the face while he was looking at him for no reason
Starting point is 03:22:01 and then Jericho beat Eddie Kingston because there's not going to be anybody it's ever actually going to get over in a program with Jericho but then Kingston responded by throwing Jericho into a netting or webbing of barbed wire where he could lay there and sell in a spastic fashion. And then they went off the air.
Starting point is 03:22:32 Was this? I think because of the timing, this wasn't the worst match ever on AEW. Imagine how much territory that takes in. But because of the timing and what they're doing to themselves, the self-inflicted wounds to their own. defeat. This could have been the worst thing they ever did. It was embarrassing. It was phony looking. Obviously outlaw. Wrong guy won. All the gimmicks misfired didn't work, wouldn't open, whatever the case. Guy broke his own nose. What the fuck else could they have
Starting point is 03:23:09 done in one segment to fuck anything else up? The run that Chris Jericho's on is especially bad. He's had so many bad moments in AEW, so many of the most embarrassing matches and moments he's been right in the middle of and they've come from his head. But especially lately, Tony has just been letting him run unleashed. And this unleashed Chris Jericho is unwatchable. This was embarrassing. This was bad. It was sloppy, embarrassing sloppy, not just regular sloppy. Eddie Kingston has not come out of this feud looking... The fuse is the fuse. not even done. They're not even done with the feud. Come out of the feud. They're still in the middle of this.
Starting point is 03:23:53 Remember when Kingsden could have been the hottest thing in wrestling if they'd just capitalized on that one article. Speaking of articles, I'm going to close up with this, because we've been here for a while and we've still got to get to the Ring of Honor pay-per-view, so I'm going to close up on this sad chapter in American history with this. Dave Shearerer at pw.nsider.com just a couple of days ago, if anybody wants to check it out, find it, wrote an article about AEW and this
Starting point is 03:24:23 barbed wire bullshit. And Dave doesn't like blood at all in wrestling. And he said, you know, now with what we know about blood-borne diseases, we shouldn't do it at all. I disagree with him there because you need blood in wrestling because it's violence and it's combat. And if it's done right and you can't see through it, then blood is absolutely necessary in certain occasions, but only when people know what they're doing and it's a main
Starting point is 03:24:52 match with money-drawn talent, then it means something. Elsewise, it's just this indie mark bullshit where they get a kick. Who looked like Britt Baker wanted to get juice on TV so Uncle Dave would give her stars or fucking planets or moons or whatever. But Dave wrote in this article, it's so unnecessary. not only to not run fans off who don't want to see this outlaw deathmatch garbage bullshit, but it's the stupidest thing they could be doing right now with this timing. The WWE is in more business trouble than they've been in the past 25 years.
Starting point is 03:25:39 They're getting bad publicity. The leader has stepped down. There's probably turmoil, you know, on the inside as to who's going to. going to be running what, but they're more vulnerable now than they have ever been before. And in what, two years or less, these TV rights fees and deals, which is now replaced selling tickets as the biggest revenue stream for a wrestling promotion, WWE is going to be renegotiating all that shit. And it's supposed to be, take them even further up the financial ladder.
Starting point is 03:26:17 but do the networks want to pay that much money out? Or would the networks be looking around for another wrestling promotion that might at least be able to come into the conversation so there's some negotiating on both sides going on? Well, hey, if you don't want to take our offer, then we're going to go over here and talk to this other wrestling promotion that has a bunch of your names, and it's got between a half and a third of your audience,
Starting point is 03:26:46 and that's before we bring it on to our network and do our promotion, it would be a tactic to negotiate that the TV networks could use. Tony Kahn could be involved in those conversations except for the fact that they're so outlaw garbage wrestling-minded to appeal to the small subsection of marks that enjoy that kind of thing and don't give a shit about a professional product and don't give a shit about credible stars
Starting point is 03:27:19 and don't give a shit about talented people. They just want to see chaos, blood, and train wrecks that not only is a limited number that has not grown in three years, Tony. No matter who you add, some's happened to keep them not coming back for more when you add them. But here, that's the thing is,
Starting point is 03:27:41 advertisers and television networks do not want television programs where people are blatantly slicing themselves open with razor blades. And the advertisers, especially, do not want customers that want to watch people do that. They don't want those kind of people. So all somebody has to do from the WWE, if any TV network, or broadcasting facility was going to use AEW as an example. Well, hey, we could go with these guys. Well, sure, look what they'd show
Starting point is 03:28:22 on your television station and show them obvious cutting with razor blades and people rolling around and barbed wire and women bleeding. And everybody's saying Moxley, go fuck yourself. And whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 03:28:38 Everybody's saying, shit. It's a clown show. It's amateur. It's unprofessional. and that would sabotage any effort that Tony would make to go anywhere else besides the company that he had the end with through his position with the Jaguars. And that guy has already left TBS, and it's a whole other hierarchy now with that merger.
Starting point is 03:29:08 So why do this? Do you think any AEW fan is going to say, God damn it, that's it. Where's my hat? Give me my hat, Gomer. I'm throwing my hat down. I'm never watching this show again because I didn't get to see a barbed wire match with a fucking 50-something-year-old goddamn midlife crisis wannabe rock star slicing himself open with a fat guy from New York that could get over by talking, but he's too fucking wrapped up in his Japanese strong-style bullshit to know what his talents are. that's a question that some programming executives might be asking,
Starting point is 03:29:43 do we want to look at this shit? Or do we want to put up with the WWE? Because at least they give us professionalism. Can you imagine if Frank Sinatra decided to like all of a sudden do G.G. Allen's act? That's what Chris Jericho's doing here. He's trying to be something he's not. Thank you. That's a wonderful simile.
Starting point is 03:30:05 You would have thought a guy like that could have taught these guys something about how to be more professional and maybe appeal to a broader audience. Instead, because he's got a goddamn crisis going on of whatever, he's dying his hair and slicing himself with razor blades rolling around in barbed wire with his minions locked in a cage that they could get out of if they took a deep breath and held their stomach in. Can you imagine a panic attack you would have had if you would have had if you were. were hoisted up in a cage that you could have just slipped right through the middle. Fuck, that's one good thing about the cages I was in. I couldn't get out of them. I wasn't going to fall out of the fucking thing. Is Chris Jerich?
Starting point is 03:30:51 Seriously. Serious question. Is Chris Jericho the most embarrassing wrestler in the business? Currently? Currently? The last few years. I'm thinking it's a, you know, it's pretty much a no contest at this point. Remember what you said about Moxley?
Starting point is 03:31:08 I mean, you said about Moxley. You called him the worst wrestler in the world, you have to take everything into the equation. His position on the card, how he's used. Look at Jericho. Who's more embarrassing than Chris Jericho? Well, and that's the thing because Jericho at one point was a star,
Starting point is 03:31:24 was a great talent, was really out there performing at a high level, blah, blah, blah. Moxley, I don't think ever has. So it's even worse for Jericho because he was good. He knows how to do this shit. He was good once.
Starting point is 03:31:40 but I don't know what has entered his mind that he thinks that he needs to do this just to appeal to the younger generation when in actuality he ought to show the younger generation the appeal of quality professional wrestlers of his generation and why that the audience was four or five times bigger when they were all on top and instead bleh he latched on to hold on he needed something to hold on to and he found all these young guys. He didn't go there to bring his expertise. He went there to do every dumb thing he's ever wanted to do. Well, I think he's pretty much accomplished that. How much more could be on his list? That's a, I think he's checked everything off. He's been pushed off high objects onto crash pads.
Starting point is 03:32:32 He's gotten juice on TV several times right out in front of God and everybody. he's uh yeah i well all right closing thoughts on the on this match and the people he talks into doing this stuff with him the problem is he talks tony into going along with this stuff and then he convinces all of these other guys to go along with it too and i don't know how many of them truly realize how detrimental it is to them when chris jericho latches on to you because it's a stink you can't get rid of it's a b-o you can't get out of your car And MJF's the only one who has successfully gotten away from him and had a fine career since then. And they used Bon Ami.
Starting point is 03:33:16 There you go. With a nice throwback to the ghost and Mr. Chicken. The horribleness and awfulness of it will never actually be forgotten. And that was AEW. Let's see what they do next week. Maybe it'll be a live fucking beheading. That'll get the networks all fired up to bid for the product. Well, that was that.
Starting point is 03:33:40 Now, you know, a lot of people doubted us when we say the reason why this match was changed was because the Hardleys are jealous of FTR and they don't want to put them over and do business the right way. And they want to play with their friends and they want to bring their trampoline cowboys in so they can have their kind of matches and they can have some belts. so they gave a team that nobody believes is the best team in the company, the World Tag Team title, so that they couldn't be accused of not wanting to do a job. They just wouldn't do it to FTR, and then they bring another one of their buddies back so they can all play together and have the six-man belts.
Starting point is 03:34:25 And it's funny how these things work out exactly how we predict they're going to, Brian. I actually don't think there's anyone who has the track record that this show has in terms of saying things that are going to happen in AEW before they happen and saying things behind the scenes that are going to happen before they happen. Well, now, sometimes we only say it like a year ahead of time. Like, it wasn't more than a year ahead of time
Starting point is 03:34:46 that you're the one that said that Cody Rhodes would be the first executive vice president that would leave because he'd have problems coexisting with the other numbs gulls and have a brighter future. Well, beyond even just Cody, we talked about general problems backstage amongst the executive vice president's, the story that
Starting point is 03:35:04 a lot of people ignored until they didn't. But we talked about it before anyone. Well, and we mentioned that also that the Hardley Boys would probably be bringing back douchebag number one. If James Brown could be sole brother number one, that I think that old Harpo can be douchebag number one. So the six-man tournament begins with André Oli-Oli-O and Roosh. And Dragon Lee against the Hardley Boys and their mystery partner.
Starting point is 03:35:39 And it was obviously not a mystery. We called it about six weeks ago what was going to happen. Why do people keep doubting us? Because we say a lot of things with laughter. We say a lot of things in a joking fashion. You say things bad about wrestlers that people love. And that's, of course, a mortal sin. So because of that, when we say shit, it's, oh, what does he know?
Starting point is 03:36:01 He's on the Jim Cornett show. Or what does he know? he's irrelevant and then it's like oh shit they were right again almost like they know what they're talking about well in this one help me figure this one out
Starting point is 03:36:13 now Andre is a heel and Dragon Lee hadn't been around till now and Rush was here once but the Hardley boys they just switched baby face because well their feelings got hurt by their other friends not wanting to team
Starting point is 03:36:31 with them so they had to go get their original friend who they bring out, obviously, Kenny Olivier, the greatest wrestling artist in the world, but when when Olivier left last, he was a heel. And he had a heel manager,
Starting point is 03:36:47 Don Fowless. And he had a heel hanger on. Michael, knocka, knock it to fuck off and get off my television. So now they've brought Kenny back, to team with
Starting point is 03:37:03 them now that they're baby faces against these other heels, but the thing that happened that never happened was that not only did Kenny never turn baby face, but Fallis came out with him. Even if Kenny is a baby face now by virtue of the fact that he is coming to the aid of his friends, the kookamonga kids who just switched baby face because they got their feelings hurt that their other friends wouldn't team with them anymore. why is Don Fowles necessary? He's a heel manager to a heel champion.
Starting point is 03:37:39 Remember what they were trying to go for was the modern day version of Bokwinkle and Heenan, although boy, talk about when you order something from Neiman Marcus versus from fucking great value or whatever. But now Don Falice comes back and the baby face partner of the new baby faces has a heel manager that nobody likes and has never tried to be a nice guy. So why did the heel manager have to come back with does this make sense? None of the heel baby face stuff here makes any sense. Here's a bigger question. How many weeks ago were the bucks turned on? Was it two weeks ago?
Starting point is 03:38:13 Two, three, whatever. Have we seen Adam Cole and those guys since then? Have they been a promo following up on it? Have we heard a peep about any of that? I don't think so. Well, let's just talk about this match because that won't take long and then we'll get to the aftermath of the
Starting point is 03:38:29 whole thing. Andre Rush and Dragon Lee, Hardley Boys, and Kenny Olivier. So 30 seconds in, they're the Flying Willendez. And Rick Knox is the referee, so nothing's going to, no rules are going to be, you know, held to. And they're going to do anything they want. They're in and out. Why was Twinkle Toes wearing a superhero costume shirt with fake muscles built in? They called it a compression shirt.
Starting point is 03:38:59 but it actually had like in the old days when George Reeves was Superman they put foam rubber in for his bigger chest shoulders and arms there was goddamn built-in muscles in his shirt was that a regulation therapeutic shirt I'm not sure what it was I'm not sure via Sabu scars he's trying to cover up but maybe this is part of his gimmick we never understood before the way he moves in the ring the way he shakes he's a guy who's been thrown into cold water now he's got a wetsuit So at one point at a... Let me stop you there because... Okay, go ahead. For anyone who didn't see this, we've seen like Rick Flair wrestle with his shirt in the past. We've seen different people wrestle with shirts.
Starting point is 03:39:42 But with Omega, even though it was a compression shirt, something that's supposed to be worn by athletes, it felt weird seeing him wearing... Because it didn't feel like something a wrestler would wear. It almost looked like he had gear on top of gear on top of gear. It was strange. It would look like he was padding his physique there a little bit. And that's better than stuffing your crotch, right?
Starting point is 03:40:05 Make your chest, your arms look a little bigger, nothing to matter with that. It's the real heats when you stuff your crotch. Did you see him try that he's rusty? It's been 200 some days since he wrestled. He tried his fireman's carry flip-over thing and fell on his ass and just sat there and laughed at his boys and sold it. So he sold something. at one point two guys tagged in at the same time in front of the referee and then they did a triple team
Starting point is 03:40:34 and as usual with these guys matches it got old less than 10 minutes in because everybody's in and out back and forth doing moves nothing flows nothing makes sense the referee's useless the Andre Olioliolios team is sloppy as shit on their I have to use quotation marks basics for that
Starting point is 03:40:57 and it just and then finally they built up they kept twinkle toes in and out where he didn't have to do too much but they gave him a hot tag and this comeback
Starting point is 03:41:09 was just the most ridiculous gesticulating exaggerating thing and he's dancing and doing the poses and the pointing and then all three all three of the baby faces
Starting point is 03:41:24 quote unquote tag in at the same time and the referee allowed that. And they did a prolonged six way where nobody could keep track of what was happening. And then everybody did dives except twinkle toes, but then they kept foiling his dive attempts. Maybe he didn't want to do a dive and take a chance on that. Say, well, we'll just have the heels foil it. And he at one point sold his knee in a very phony, overly dramatic and stagey way.
Starting point is 03:41:52 And then came the big spot of the match. since Kenny can't dive, they'll bring the dive to Kenny. And they go out on the floor and they take these security railing in front of the front row and they pull it closer to the ring by about, what, two feet. And they sit Kenny up on the railing. I don't know where his partners in crime were at this point to prevent this, because all three of the heels are on him. and then Dragon Lee, the one with the mask on the other team,
Starting point is 03:42:26 he does the dive, and they both go over the rail into the crowd and smack a little girl in the front row right in the fucking face. And then the camera shoots both the wrestlers laying there, but they won't widen out to shoot the girl selling and people standing up and trying to get out of the way of these goddamn uninvited dinner guests that have just dropped in to their laps.
Starting point is 03:42:56 And there was the, it was almost like let's do Cornette's spot, the spot that he calls. Every week when we do shit like this. We'll go too far. We'll go over the rail. We'll hit a little kid in the face. We'll get sued. Tony's out of business. And we're all on the fucking soup plan.
Starting point is 03:43:13 And by gum, yes, since they were in Charleston, West Virginia. To answer everybody's question, they're asking mentally, the little girl did get Stephen P. News business card. What? And they had to completely ignore the fact that they're standing in front of children, four feet behind them with this fucking goofy idiot, diving head first out of the ring over the top rope coming a hundred miles an hour. And they're in front of women and children.
Starting point is 03:43:52 Thankfully, this crew wasn't all. on the Titanic. Elsewise all the kids and the fucking women would have been swimming and sleeping with the fishes and the sharks. What a stupid and unnecessary idea of this spot wasn't anyone watching at home as soon as they started doing it. If anyone listens to this show that was watching that, as soon as you saw them going for it, you said, oh my God, there's a kid right behind the dead center.
Starting point is 03:44:15 I hope they don't do something near the kid. And what do you know, they wiped the kid out. Lap! Down to the ground. Down goes the kid. more goofy bumps in this match and then after all this chaotic stuff that they've done and all these wild moves
Starting point is 03:44:32 they're not smart enough they don't know how to build up to an exciting finish so when they finish doing all the moves that they can do then old Kenny hits two of those canterbury knee lifts the little skippy thing the little the V-trigger from his video game and then barely gets the guy up for the one winged ferry, one, two, three, and the flattest finish after they do all that stuff, instead of building up to a slam-bang finish, as Tutsmont would say,
Starting point is 03:45:05 they just grab one of the heels and beat him flat. Just, that's it. After all that chaos. So that was the match that lost them 200,000 viewers. and then as the baby faces allegedly the kookamonga kids and harpo get out of the ring there's 15 seconds left on the air and the other two rush and Andre turn on their partner and pull his mask off why and why did they do it literally seven seconds before they went off the air that was going to say don't say 15 seconds it was a
Starting point is 03:45:49 quicker than that. Well, that's when they started looking at him with evil intent. What was that? Who's on whose side here? And why? Did they either have the time to do the angle or don't do the fucking angle. And why are we doing the angle when the guy didn't, he got beat, but he didn't fucking fuck up his partners.
Starting point is 03:46:18 He just got beat in a flat, unconvincing fashion. So they got to rip his mask off and turn on him. I thought one of them was the other one's brother. Yeah, one of them is the other one's brother. So now they got, now they got the sons turning on the father. And the brother against brother, my God, it's chaos here. It's a civil war. Family against family.
Starting point is 03:46:45 You get a good mutter against a fodder. They don't do angles with the wrestlers that the fans want. to do stuff with, they do angles with the wrestlers that the other wrestlers like. Well, so that was that main event, and that's what was on television, and that's what cost them 200,000 views, but there was more in the building. What? What were you saying, hey? Well, you know, you actually just kind of led me to that in the building.
Starting point is 03:47:10 I thought one of the interesting reactions were watching this show the whole night, punk got a major reaction. I mean, everything you said, they were sitting on every word. They didn't want him like they did Jungle Boy. Moxley, whatever you want to say about him. big reaction from those fans. They were into them. I heard from people in the building,
Starting point is 03:47:26 they said one of the biggest reactions, Claudio. They said the place went nuts for Claudio. Yes, on that second pull-aparte, Claudio came out, and that's when he picked Moxley up and handled him like a small child. I guess he wrestled for one of their other shows,
Starting point is 03:47:41 also while he was there, and he got a big reaction, but, you know, the Bucks got an okay pop, nothing special, nothing like they used to. Omega got a big pop for coming out, big surprise pop. And then what happened during that match? During that match, there were the little bursts of this is awesome when things weren't really that awesome.
Starting point is 03:47:58 And then dead silence. Dead silence. They were begging people to cheer from them. The bucks would go, come on! Come on! And Omega, let me hear you while I'm punching this guy. Yeah, he got up one time and like, come on, let me hear you. I can't hear you because they're not making any noise.
Starting point is 03:48:17 Part of it was the match. And again, it's West Virginia. They expect to see something that makes sense. It's Crockett Promot's Territory back in the old days. It's a little more WCW. It's a little more down south. They expect this shit to actually be good and halfway violent looking instead of phony and illogical.
Starting point is 03:48:38 And then the other thing is, okay, they got the pop. Kenny's back. And then Kenny doesn't go out and do any of the Kenny stuff that Kenny does that impresses everybody because he's obviously still fucked up and you know maybe he ought to take another six months off i'll wait it's fine and those ratings tell a story and they're well and they're not the hot they're not the hot individuals anymore the hot individuals are the people that the fans have started to take to on their own rather than the people that when the show went on the air the fans were told these are your main
Starting point is 03:49:13 event stars and you're supposed to cheer for them now people are deciding for themselves and they like the people, its work looks good and it makes sense and they're not insufferable douchebags as personalities. Smarmy, smug, self-absorbed little fucking
Starting point is 03:49:32 vanilla midgets. So that's why, so between the match not making any sense and being the same shit they always do, the heels are not necessarily a group of heels that people want to see, you know, lynched and hung up and strung out and run over with cars and anything bad happened to,
Starting point is 03:49:53 they're just there. And then old twinkle toes comes back to this ridiculous, over-exaggerated introduction and they do very little of anything. And they made it last 20 to 25 minutes. So for all those reasons, people didn't give a shit. They thought people were going to react like they react to CM Punk for Kenny Return. and they didn't. They just didn't. I think, you know, what thought did, don't you? As Mama Cornett used to say,
Starting point is 03:50:24 no. He thought he farted, but he didn't. When you think like that, your pants fill up with shit. Does anyone actually look forward to the six-man division now, the Trio's division after this match? I wouldn't look forward to it before this match. This wasn't good. I mean, that's the other thing. People were trying to say, like, oh, it was nice to have Kenny Beck. They're leaving out the part beyond you and me talking about it, and we all know what you think of this. It was a really not good match. Really not good.
Starting point is 03:50:54 And people are kind of sick of seeing a lot of the buck stuff. But I don't know. Again, the ratings tell a story. Jim, let's get to our next topic or a question or whatever this is here. Get AEW stuff a little bit out of the way. I'm sure that may be more later. But there was a promo that several listeners requested. We check out.
Starting point is 03:51:12 From Marina Shafir, who we've seen Russell, and I think maybe talking a promo package, but we've never actually seen a promo from her in what it turns out is her hometown, Albany, New York. Well, and she may have put an end to Tony's habit lately of shining people in their hometown. If you came from that town, no matter who you are, where you are on the card, you're going to get to do something because they're going to like you, which is the opposite of what Vince would do for years.
Starting point is 03:51:43 I never understood that. embarrassing people in her hometown, but you don't have to take the lighting guy. Hey, the lighting guy's from fucking Dubuque. So we're in Dubuque. Let's let the lighting guy win the belt or something. But apparently they gave Marina Schaefer a live promo. Sheffir. Whichever. And she's out there with, I guess it was after a match or something.
Starting point is 03:52:10 Or Nala Rose is out there with her and Vicki Guerrero. and they turned the microphone over to Marina. And we have seen some of her matches, unfortunately. And I know she was an MMA fighter. I know she was pals with Ronda Rousey, and I don't remember her level of accomplishment in that world. But what we have seen of her as a professional wrestler has been abysmal. small. And she's the one that's married to Roderick Strong, right?
Starting point is 03:52:50 That's right. One of the, one of not only the best workers in the, just technical in-ring workers in the business in any company, but also a guy that's been around long enough and he's been in the developmental program, he knows how to train, teach, advise. She's got to be, and I hate to say this, but she's got to be hopeless at this point. if she actually not only has been through training in a variety of places but lives with a trainer but we'd never we'd heard her speak in packages as you said but we'd never heard her live and now we know why because as brutal as it has been to watch her wrestling
Starting point is 03:53:33 apparently public speaking is not one of her strong points either and Brian I defy you to explain to me what this promo was. It wasn't what it was going to be, obviously. There was something in there that she was going to say that she had told somebody beforehand or somebody had told her or something. I can't believe they just let her go out there and just do a live promo for two minutes, Marina.
Starting point is 03:54:08 Somebody had to have suggested some material or heard her say it and said, okay, that sounds okay or makes sense in some fashion. And then she went out there and just, it left her mind. Just blank. Speaking of fashion, where did you think of her wearing a straw hat? Well, yeah, somebody on Twitter remarked that she looked like Huckleberry Finn if he'd fucking forgotten his own name. But so she's, yeah, she's wearing. in a straw hacked
Starting point is 03:54:42 and she starts by saying that now they're heels, right? And Vicki's as heel as you can get. And we have audio if you want to play any audio too. Oh my God. Oh yeah. Well, there's no way I can describe this. It'll let you take it from here. Well, if you want to stop at any point, let me know. I'm sure I will. I just want to let the audience know. At some point she will reference you. At that point, she's pointing to the
Starting point is 03:55:09 camera and the home audience watching on YouTube. trying to be clear of that because it could be confusing, but here is... After a number of those match... You think that's the only thing in this promo, it's going to be confusing. We will find out. Here's Marina Schaefeer. To me. It's for you.
Starting point is 03:55:30 Marina Shafir, going to speak here. The problem. She is a problem. Hey, real quick, let me stop. They're using Ian Rickaboney on YouTube now. Well, yes, I thought the voices actually sounded like they knew what they were doing, but I wasn't sure, but yes, the Ring of Honor
Starting point is 03:55:49 announced crew there and also Marina's nickname is the problem. Did the agents get, did the producers backstage give her that nickname? I'm just, the jokes are writing themselves at this point. Go ahead. Albany.
Starting point is 03:56:11 That's where we are. My name is Marina Shafir. Daughter Ella Shafir. and Veniam and Shafir and you welcomed us with open arms in 93 when we immigrated here from Moldova. It's story time. You, no.
Starting point is 03:56:33 Okay. You have no good son of a bitches welcomed us with open arms when we came here from Moldovia or Moldavia. Moldavia. Moldova. Moldova. I wish they mulled it over
Starting point is 03:56:46 and decided might as well go to the United States. States. Why is she screaming? Why is she mad that they welcomed her parents with open arms? This is the way this thing starts and it gets worse so you can't figure it out. She's upset. Go ahead. In a straw hat once again, but here's she. Oh, me. Yes, you do. My parents created the problem. In Albany, you raised the problem. You are a part. Everybody's blaming Albany tonight.
Starting point is 03:57:27 It's not the best. You are. No, these are ticket buying fans. Why are we trying to chase the world? You know me. Part of the problem. Now, I just want to stop here. I mentioned she keeps using the word you.
Starting point is 03:57:49 Right now she's still talking to the room. It's about to turn to the camera. Yeah, she's pointing up in the stands all around. You know me. I had you're a part of the problem because you welcomed my. my parents with open arms when they immigrated from Moldania. Moldova. And let's go back to Maria Shippen.
Starting point is 03:58:10 I'm sorry, maybe when we immigrated from Monrovia. Is that where the Monroe brothers are from? That's actually where they were born, yeah, Monrovia. All right. Here's Maria Shapir. You're part of the problem, Ian. You don't know me. You don't.
Starting point is 03:58:42 And now she's kicking the turnbuckles also. she's kicking the bottom turnbuckle over and over while screaming that while earlier you know me now she's screaming you don't know me losing her mind here and look at vicky and the commentators just making fun of this whole segment as it happens there's nothing they can explain they're still trying to figure it out they're looking at their notes like was this down here it's like back when the marks brothers were on Broadway whoever wrote the fucking play would in the back on opening night. And finally, you know, every once in a while, like, I just heard one of the lines I wrote.
Starting point is 03:59:25 Well, I don't know what George S. Kaufman would have thought of this, but let's go back to the end of Marina Shafir. She loves this descent into madness, the madness in the eyes of Marina. Understand that this. When the violence play, violence is always on the way. Oh, boy. And that's the end. understand this if you understood nothing else I said so when the violins play the violence is on the way I'm assuming her theme song has violins otherwise this makes completely no sense well you know we've
Starting point is 04:00:08 heard so much about sacks and violins on television and I think that a saxophone or a violin is just fine to have on television I don't know why people are upset about sacks and violins on television. Why do I hear Jim Barnett as you're doing this bit? Because I can't do a good Rosanne Rosanna-Danna. Well. I do a better Barnett than I do a Roseanne. Never mind.
Starting point is 04:00:42 The fact that they aired this, I mean, you can't really say that they aired it. It was on YouTube. and their numbers are not as big as ours, but still, it's not doing this poor girl any favors to when somebody, I mean, there were a couple of times in OVW when I had green talent, you know, inexperienced rookies, whatever, people hadn't done television, that you would, for their own sake, so people didn't see them
Starting point is 04:01:15 doing what she was doing, having a goddamn mental melt. down because she obviously couldn't figure out how to say what she had in her head. You don't want people to see that. They didn't have to air that. It wasn't live. But, you know, it's not the job of the technical producers, the people who actually punch the buttons to determine what goes on the television program. Any TV program that I've booked, been responsible for booking, that was also me.
Starting point is 04:01:48 I determined what stayed and what went, if anything. I don't know what Tony's process is for it, but somebody should have said, no, we shouldn't show this. Because people are going to be laughing at this poor lady, which they are. Okay, so what if the roles are reversed? And again, you're not Jim Cornett, the podcaster critiquing this. You're Jim Cornett, the producer or the agent. And she comes back, and you can't say just quit the business.
Starting point is 04:02:16 That's off the thing. What do you say to help someone like this who is trying, is trying? I mean, she's clearly trying. It's just not working. Well, first, I would have to know what she was trying to say or was supposed to have said or what it sounded like that somebody reasonable said, yeah, go out and do this. Because you, I mean, I can't, I can't figure out a way to critique something when I don't know what it was supposed to be. beforehand and somebody's going to say well then how do you know it was bad no we just played it for you that was bad when when nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about and there's light chance of shut the fuck up in the building chances are the promo is not landing it's not getting across it's not riveting i you know depending on what was she wanting to do there um she starts off in an angry tone while thanking the people for welcoming her parents with open arms,
Starting point is 04:03:24 but then maybe there's something she left out as to why that then, but then she had problems with the town because she's a problem? Or I don't know what's fine. I don't know whether to tell her be more baby-faced or be more heelish or don't be so mad, be another emotion. What the fuck was the point of all of that? So you've got to know that before you can critique somebody to say, you know, just what do I say? Don't lose your mind and start kicking the turnbuckles and screaming the same words over and over when people are still going as to what you're talking about.
Starting point is 04:04:06 And are we supposed to like you or not like you? You're from our hometown, but we're part of the problem. I don't. Was there some cute play on words that was. really going to register there if she'd have said it right. I don't know. I think that whole thing was probably a 30 second conversation. You go out there and you say, I was born here, I was raised here, you guys raised a problem.
Starting point is 04:04:28 You know me. The people at home don't know me, but when the violence starts, the violence starts or whatever the fuck she said. It's just she added an extra two minutes of, you know me! Well, and there she is on the phone right now. Fucking spam. Hold on. Fuck you. All right.
Starting point is 04:04:48 I pulled the Jim Cornette here today. Very good. We can't end on that note. Say something else. So we hit on a different note. We end on a note, well, but Marina, thanks for playing. Try again. I would say if she rehearsed that over and over, I would say next time, don't rehearse
Starting point is 04:05:09 at all. If she didn't rehearse it at all, I'd say next time, do a lot of rehearsal. Next time, whatever you did this time, do the exact opposite. Did you have to work a lot with Roddy on promos? Yes. Yes. Roddy's a smart guy and he's again another one of these guys that's funny as fuck in the locker room and very personable. But.
Starting point is 04:05:34 Roderick's strong for anyone listening at home wondering. Yes. Not Roddy Pike. But for quite a while and remember I've said in NXT with the undisputed era, he started coming out with it and it much improved and sounded like he meant things but Roddy had not only
Starting point is 04:05:54 a struggle with being a natural public speaker but also the tone of his voice lent itself to making it sound like he didn't mean what he said if that makes any sense. He just
Starting point is 04:06:12 and that tonal quality I don't know and it was was tough. That was why when we switched him heel and made him the champion, he got Truth Martini as a manager because
Starting point is 04:06:26 you could get some declarative statements out of Roddy, and it sounded okay, and his work was impeccable, but he needed somebody else to do the majority of the talking and or explaining or anything that was a little more
Starting point is 04:06:42 complicated or whatever. And we were always trying to fire him up, fire him up verbally. Well, luckily, Marina Shafir has the Truth Martini of AEW, Vicki Guerrero in her core. Oh, boy, that's another shoe boy. All right, nevertheless. I know, Brian, I know people are not going to believe this, but they followed up a match where anything goes with another match where anything goes.
Starting point is 04:07:11 but this time it wasn't sanctioned so Tony and his father and Megan and all of the officials can't get sued if anything bad happens except for the fans something bad happened to the fans they got the stink board out of them can I say something before you review this match please do this was one of the worst matches I've ever seen in my entire life and I mean it I'm not being I'm not just saying that this was one of the worst matches I've ever seen in my life And I mean, now that's only slightly hyperbolic because we have seen videotape of, you know, untrained goofballs on a show at a basement somewhere in front of six people that technically you could probably say was a worse match, but I don't think I've ever seen anything as bad
Starting point is 04:08:04 in front of people, the real people, serious people, broadcast. The fans went silent. They were like, what are we supposed to do? I know it was like they were in suspended animation. It was like, what the fuck is going on in front of us? And there was, they were just staring. I mean, again, they were setting people around with mirrors to hold them in front of fucking fan's faces to see if they were still breathing.
Starting point is 04:08:32 It was so awkwardly quiet that at one point I couldn't tell. I'm like, does Adam Cole always move like this and I've never noticed it? Or is it because the fans are so silent? it seems like he's taking extra steps and doing things he doesn't need to do. There was so much silence, it kind of impeded upon everything in the match. And I noted, by the way, Jim Ross was on color. I forgot that he worked there. But he was back and he was reasonably listenable, unlike the normal commentary,
Starting point is 04:09:00 for a few matches. And then suddenly I noticed he was gone. And we never heard from him again. For the most part, I found Jim Ross enjoyable. It was a relief to see him come out there. the commentary's awful. Excalibur was excruciatingly awful on this entire broadcast.
Starting point is 04:09:15 It was painful. It was so bad. But Jim Ross, the problem is when you tell people that this is the best Chris Jericho's ever been, when you say this match is guaranteed to be a classic. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:09:27 You know, that's the only thing I don't like. I like Jim Ross. Everything he says, except don't build up shit that makes you look like a liar. Well, they did prove him wrong in that instance. So it's an unsanagnation.
Starting point is 04:09:39 match, anything goes, lazy booking, Adam Cole versus Chris Jericho, Cole has Roderick Strong and Sabu in his corner, and Jericho has the, allegedly. I'm sorry, I've got to stop you. At one point, the best line was Jim Ross during the match, and he was kind of ignored by the other commentators. He says, isn't Sabu the referee? Yeah, yes. He mixed anything. Mark Briscoe was going to be the referee later up, but Sabu was, yes, was Special Enforcer. What is that? I don't know.
Starting point is 04:10:15 And nobody else knew either. Jericho had the four stooges, everybody that's not Sammy Guevara and his little group of idolaters or appreciators or whatever they are. Idolators. And as soon as they all got down there, they all started fighting. The seconds two. Everybody was just, just broke out in a fight. And the stooges got on Adam Cole.
Starting point is 04:10:40 and then Jericho and Sabu got in a ring and stood there with the chairs forever and then did the fencing with the chairs and then Jericho dropped his chair and he got bumped out and Sabu climbed up to the top and more or less
Starting point is 04:10:57 just fell off the top rope out onto the floor and put one of the heels through a table who was conveniently laying there waiting for it. So Tony Kahn was back there loving it and it's Saboos had multiple health issues. He's in his 50s. He's nearly died.
Starting point is 04:11:15 He's had injury after injury. Just to relive a moment of your childhood, I mean, seriously, when I brought Jackie Fargo to the Louisville Gardens, when he was a little bit older than Saboo and probably in much better shape, I didn't ask him to take any bumps through furniture because he did it 30 years before.
Starting point is 04:11:40 right what if he asked you if he could do it he wouldn't have that's one thing he would have not hey can I take a bump are you out of your he didn't ask that when he was in a business so anyway
Starting point is 04:11:56 so the guys that were supposed to be in this match fighting are not fighting at this point but then somehow Brian you know what they did all of them everybody all of the
Starting point is 04:12:10 Sabu, the special star and all of the seconds and everybody that were having this giant Donnybrook, they just fought off. And they were gone. And then Jericho and Cole start this match and immediately they go out to the floor. And they weren't having a wrestling match or a fight.
Starting point is 04:12:30 They were just doing slow-paced, garbage wrestling on the outside, wouldn't get in the ring. And the fans were just sitting there and staring. and then they got in the ring and I made note that Jericho was wearing brand new designer concrete boots.
Starting point is 04:12:48 It's like they were in fucking jelly. And then at one point he got the walls of Jericho and Adam eventually after teasing it and you knowing it was coming and them having a camera shot of it for ages and the announcer's talking about it
Starting point is 04:13:07 he did the fact fire extinguisher spot. But he had already, he was there, it was in the shot. He waited, then he pulled it in, and everybody saw it. He waited, waited, waited, and it was finally shot. And it was so awkward just the way he was hanging out, too. I mean, Jericho was like on an angle, and he was sitting like on the rope was involved, and Cole was all the way out of the ring.
Starting point is 04:13:28 Yeah, and then he pulled him in, and Jericho had to turn around and look to the right, so he could hit him in a face with the spray. Um, and then he picked it up and hit Jericho with it. but you can't work with a fire extinguisher. Not one that size. So it looked like shit. And then suddenly Jericho gets a kendo stick. But here comes Britt Baker and gets in the ring and wears him out with the kendo stick.
Starting point is 04:13:57 Just beats a bejesus out of him. And then here comes Soraya and beats Britt Baker up. And then they get to, and then they fought off. and you didn't see them anymore. And then more nothing happened, where they were just laying around breathing. And then Adam Cole gets up on a top rope and Jericho chucks the chair at him
Starting point is 04:14:25 and it hits him and he falls off the top rope through another table out on the floor. Adam Cole has just returned from almost a year out, injured with concussions. and in the worst match in recorded history. He's taking a chair to the head and falling through a table off the top rope. And everything was in slow motion
Starting point is 04:14:50 and everything was telegraphed. It was such a bad match. And I wrote, nobody cares about any of this, but they're leaving nothing for anyone else later either. So it's a double whammy. And then they got a chain out, a 20-foot chain with cuffs on either end of it. And Jericho Cuff,
Starting point is 04:15:10 one end on Adam Cole, but Adam Cole fought back and put the other end on Jericho, and now it was a chain match. And then Cole botched a Panama Sunrise. Well, I don't know who botches a Panama Sunrise. Because it really doesn't make any sense anyway.
Starting point is 04:15:28 The Canadian destroyer off the thing, is it the flipper or the flippy? You can't tell who that is anyway, but point being, instead of going all the way over, they kind of just did a fucking back bump
Starting point is 04:15:43 Wham one guy on top of the other guy I believe that's where Jericho got his eye split open or at least I didn't never see any blood but it was red at the end and it was black later so he got probably one of the links of the chain to the face smashed by a body on top of him because they're trying to fucking do backflips
Starting point is 04:16:03 over each other when they're tied up with a fucking logging chain and one of the participants is a fucking 53 year old man, is it 55 or 52 you can get AARP? I have no idea. I got it, but I can't remember because it's been so long ago. But if it's 52, I'm calling him AAR Jericho. Anyway, so at that point, that's when referee Aubrey Ed pulled out the black gloves and put them on her front hooves, because we did have some kind of blood in there somewhere.
Starting point is 04:16:44 But anyway, so Jericho whips coal with the chain, but that, of course, looked phony and fake too because it's too heavy to work with and you can't do it believably, at least not in the way they were doing it. I could have given them a few suggestions, but I wasn't even there. So then,
Starting point is 04:17:05 ah, the finish came. when Cole got on Jericho he hit a knee with the chain wrapped around his knee and then he got on Jericho and he was doing fake punches with the chain because you can't
Starting point is 04:17:23 again the chain is way too big and too heavy to work with it believably and also if you did hit somebody hard it would break your fucking fingers because it's too big and heavy but then he switched hands and had to throw bare-handed punches with the left hand because Jericho hadn't thought ahead and handcuffed
Starting point is 04:17:46 Cole's right arm. So Cole couldn't fucking throw regular punches with the right hand without bringing the chain down on top of Jericho who's already been fucking potatoed with it anyway. So he throws fake punches with the left hand to the top of Jericho's head or wherever the fuck in the vicinity of Jericho and then Aubrey just stops it.
Starting point is 04:18:11 She says, nay, nay, no more. And the crowd booed because it looked so bad the crowd booed the baby face beating the heel into submission until the referee stopped it. Have you ever heard that before?
Starting point is 04:18:32 They were booing the fucking shitty looking finish. They were waiting. for anything to like about this match and it never came and then this finish was one of the all-time bad finishes and it certainly didn't make anyone happy and the fans let them. That woke the fans up.
Starting point is 04:18:52 I mean, my God, and this also went so long. It was an hour into the show these first two events, the Battle Royal and this, but it just it cut half the time
Starting point is 04:19:09 cut all of the outside bullshit and keep up a bit of a pace and god damn have a I mean they didn't channel
Starting point is 04:19:25 Tully Blanchard Magnum T.A. They channeled fucking Ian Rotten and dipshit McGee just the worst about the worst things about bad indie garbage wrestling and
Starting point is 04:19:40 their smoke and mirrors made no sense with the multiple man fight at the beginning and the fucking girls running in at least later on Jeff Jarrett's smoke and mirrors made some sense still was a little overdone
Starting point is 04:19:57 but this was if people were at some points actually interested whereas this was an ex If anybody wanted to go to the concession stand or take a piss or whatever, they would have been happy to have this match. Otherwise, I can't imagine this thrilled anybody in that building. This was one of the worst matches ever.
Starting point is 04:20:20 Chris Jericho looked awful in this. Adam Cole, and I feel bad saying this kind of thing because everyone tells me he's the nicest guy ever. He is. He is. but he's too skinny to be a wrestler. It's not even skinny. He looks frail.
Starting point is 04:20:41 At one point when Jericho had him in the Boston Crabb and you could see his midsection, like his shirt was like halfway, you see how skinny he is. And I'm sorry, you could hit as many super kicks as you want. More than anyone you can name on that roster, the Young Bucks, Orange Cassidy, whoever you want to name. I don't believe he could beat anybody. It's ridiculous. And I don't think this is something that's going to get better as he gets older because he's not, he doesn't look.
Starting point is 04:21:11 He never looked imposing, but he doesn't look in as good as shape as he did a few years ago. He looked athletic. The size was his drawback. He can talk. He can work. He can do things. He's a very intelligent kid. But he looked, he looked somehow conditioned.
Starting point is 04:21:31 And I, and the only reason, because I know how he's a great. guy and I know how determined he was to get better in the wrestling business when I worked with him years ago and I can't I I hesitate to actually come out in blistery because I've got to think it's got to be something to do with his health because elsewise he wouldn't have just completely given up tan drink milkshakes go to the gym you know whatever the fuck I'm not he's never going to look like Luger no but Jerry E weight and a little tone and a little tan. Jericho's not the biggest guy in the world, and he looked twice the size of Cole. Like Dick the Bruiser. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:22:16 And, you know, I'm watching this match and I'm watching him go toe to tone. It just doesn't seem in any way believable. And this few doesn't done anyone any favors. He comes, Adam Cole comes out of it looking awful because the Britt Baker angle was really poorly done. and everything else in this hasn't been good and then I had the worst match of all time here. Hopefully this is the end of them working together. Well, no!
Starting point is 04:22:43 You didn't hear later on? Oh, no, they have the mixed match on dynamite. We get more. To contradict every rule of logic and law of gravity and the history of the wrestling business, they did an angle on a paper view to come back with the match on free TV. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 04:23:07 You know what? I got to say, though, I forget when it was. You'll go through the matches and I'll realize it, but at one point during the show it hit me, like this doesn't even feel like an AEW pay-per-view. Like, there have been pay-per-views where there have been matches I really liked. There have been pay-per-views of matches I didn't like,
Starting point is 04:23:25 but they felt like a big deal. This felt like a supersized dynamite or rampage. No, you know what this was? this was an independent show with a promoter that just won the lottery, and he started a company, and we've seen him before over the last 30th. There were the heroes of wrestling pay-per-view from where was it, Bay St. Louis, or whatever, where they get enough money to put on a big show and they hire some names, but it's still garbage indie wrestling, and nobody knows what the fuck they're doing.
Starting point is 04:24:00 and some of the people that might don't care because they're getting paid. That's what it looked like, except this is going on and on and on. But yeah, for the people who don't know what we were referring to a minute ago, later on, Jericho and Soraya do a promo and challenge Adam and Britt
Starting point is 04:24:24 to a mixed tag team match on Dynamite this coming Wednesday. So, as I said, for the first time ever to history of fucking wrestling, they did an angle on a pay-per-view to lead to a gimmick match on free television instead of the other way around. And,
Starting point is 04:24:42 honestly, the mixed tag would probably have had more interest and drawn more revenue, whether it be tickets or pay-per-view buys or whatever the case, then this fucking fiasco they had on the pay-per-view because it was an
Starting point is 04:24:59 anything goes match in a company full of anything goes matches. Jericho and Cole were not going to do anything different, even if this was good. It still would have been different. But having Britt and Soraya partners with Cole and Jericho might tickle a few people's taints just because it's a little bit more different. So they're going to give that one away on TV. Did you like the video of the breaking and entering and criminal aggravated assault? I hated this. I absolutely hated this segment completely.
Starting point is 04:25:37 This is everything I hate about these vignette videos. Completely fake. I mean, it looks good. It would be good on Showtime, like in the middle of some show, like, you know, here's what happened. But for wrestling, not. This doesn't work for me. Last week on The Wire. Yeah, this doesn't, the Wire, they wish. This doesn't work for me for wrestling. No. And I don't even know whether they bothered to send anybody of any, like a producer, anybody with any experience or whether they just tell the guys, oh, y'all got cameras out there. Darby knows how to shoot stuff.
Starting point is 04:26:09 Just shoot it and send it to us. But swerve, Strickland, and A.R. Fox go to Nick Wayne's house at his training garage where his father, buddy Wayne trained him. Traspassing. Thank you. As I go through, list the criminal offenses. And they've got a somebody with them that's got the camera phone, so they're shooting this on video.
Starting point is 04:26:37 And... Darby. Yeah. And basically they go in, and Nick Wayne is the young, you know, hot shot prodigy baby face that they, that has the sympathetic backstory that they've wanted to get over. And instead of, okay, yes, for the kind of people who like the modern matches, he had a match with swerve on TV, that's fine. I didn't like it because it didn't show that he could work.
Starting point is 04:27:07 It just showed that he could tumble. But nevertheless, you put him in the ring and let him beat normal folks and really hang with the upper level folks. And sooner or later, if he has any charisma, he's not a one-trick pony, you'll get over. But instead, they want to go and do some phony shit and make the guy cut his fucking head off. So they go into his training facility. there.
Starting point is 04:27:33 And they say, well, train me. Train me, Nick. And they're trash talking him and they beat up his friends that he's training with. And when he gets in a scuffle with him, they take his father's picture and they break the glass frame over his head. And he goes down and it, it's one thing getting color, using a blade in the middle of, after a, in the match or after a match, or after a match.
Starting point is 04:28:01 in front of thousands of people when you got the adrenaline going but they made this kid go down and fucking gig in front of four people and a guy holding a camera in a fucking barn for this phony fucking angle that wouldn't really possibly
Starting point is 04:28:18 actually happen if they were going to commit to crime they wouldn't broadcast it on television they wouldn't tape it and send it to the fucking AEW producers and if it was real the AEW producers wouldn't have aired it AEW wouldn't even tell us
Starting point is 04:28:34 that their goddamn top stars gotten a fist fight, Hey, Rubin in the locker room. You think they're going to say that some of their mid-card guys fucking broke into this fucking guy's house fucking cut him open with goddamn bashing shit over his head
Starting point is 04:28:49 and then picked up his telephone and made him call Darby. The kid's bleeding and they make him punch the fucking number into the phone. to call Darby so they can trash talk Darby and swerve be dramatic with his verbi
Starting point is 04:29:08 and then the kids laying there in a puddle of fucking blood probably a cut that would require stitches unless he took a whole bottle of aspirin beforehand it was fake it wasn't even to the level of the horseman jumping dusty in the parking lot was a goddamn, hey, we got this cameraman and we're going to show people what's going on
Starting point is 04:29:36 and in and boom and done and out. And you could go, holy shit. But this was just talking and phoniness. And where did his friends go? The two friends, there was at least one friend. I thought there was two friends. Maybe the same guy got in the ring twice. Oh, they're still training.
Starting point is 04:29:54 They're not ready for assault and battery yet. Well, no. Once that they got dumped out of the ring, there was shit going on for another minute. minute and a half. They're holding Darby. They're, or Darby, holding Nick Wayne making him make the phone call. These guys never, they couldn't get back up. They couldn't go find a bat or a shovel.
Starting point is 04:30:15 Help me. You know, if there's any place you'd get away with crime like this, it's probably Washington or Oregon right now. So I guess somebody says in that way, again, this was all right as a seen for something. This doesn't work for me as a scene on the wrestling show. The wrestling show shouldn't have scenes. The scenes should be seen and not heard.
Starting point is 04:30:44 That's what this was. If they wanted to do something where Nick Wayne gets attacked, there was a way to do it so that it felt like it fit within the show, not that it was part of a movie or something. And it was just over the top. Again, you know, how, would this happen and they get aired. A.W. is scared about everything with legal.
Starting point is 04:31:04 We have some unfortunate news. There's been a very violent and illegal assault at the home of Nick Wayne and his family. Wait, we have footage. Hey, let's play the footage. Yeah. This is going to end up in court, folks. We can see it coming a mile away, so let us show you
Starting point is 04:31:20 everything we've got. We'll spill our guts over there. We've got criminal trespass. We've got assault and battery. We've got aggravated mayhem. and actually they were keeping him in one place against his will. That's kidnapping. I guess so. I guess so.
Starting point is 04:31:38 Speaking of happening over and over and over again, God damn, they should have rehearsed this one over and over again until they got it right. I want to, I want you to see if you can tell what my favorite thing was about this segment or not favorite thing maybe be the improper. The thing I most fixated on, and I couldn't take my eyes off as it developed. Christian Cage and Dino Douche and Nick Plain were doing an in-ring promo.
Starting point is 04:32:11 No, no, no, you can't say that because that's not right. They announced it beforehand that it was going to be this thing where Christian was going to be renaming or rechristening. I forget the way they put it, his family members. Yes, at some type of ceremony where he's christening them or whatever the case. I guess you would know nothing about that. And me, I was young. I think it happened to me, but I was too young.
Starting point is 04:32:39 I was defenseless at the time. But anyway, Christian does the promo, obviously, and he says he didn't lose the six-man tag, and old Nick didn't lose. Dino lost, and that's unacceptable. and since they're both his children, he's going to recreate them in his own image. And he tells the fucking goofy dinosaur to take a knee. And the monster, he won't do it.
Starting point is 04:33:10 And Christian is starting to do the whole thing where he berates him. It just talks bad about him. He's going to do it some more. But he finally gets him down on his knee. And he changes his name from Luchosaurus to a name of strength and toughness and certain victory. Kill Switch. So now the lizard's name is Kill Switch.
Starting point is 04:33:33 And about that's what Christian called his finish after he left the WWE, wasn't it? Or was it? Where did he get that from? Or did he call it that in WWE? I don't know. That was definitely his move. I thought it was the unprettier at one time or another. Oh yeah, that name sucked too.
Starting point is 04:33:49 Kill Switch is better than that. I think it's because Vince thought that he was such an unattractive person. Did he? Did Vince ever say anything? Christian? Yeah. You've never heard that story? No, what?
Starting point is 04:34:01 Oh, God damn it. Hold on one second. Before we go any further with this, Vince was convinced that when we got Christian an edge, Vince liked Edge, but he thought Christian was ugly, facially, as an appearance as a human being. He said he was, he looked, not necessarily was the ugly. He was normal.
Starting point is 04:34:24 He just looked like anybody. He didn't look like a star. He just had a normal fucking face. And my dad, he looks like he has 80 teeth in his mouth. Well, yes, but he's got a striking look. But it went so far that they started jokker around. One of the fucking gimmicks was that they would have Christian when he wrestled. They'd put a blue dot over his fucking face.
Starting point is 04:34:47 Oh, I do remember that. Yeah. Yes. And then finally he read. You know, and that was unfair because Christian ended up looking as good. He fit in the bruise. and he looked just as good as anybody else, but it was a Vince thing
Starting point is 04:34:59 that he, you know... Well, long hair was not his friend, Christian. I think when he got his haircut, he didn't look as moopy or whatever you want to say. Well, whatever. But now you got Nick Plain. Can you imagine what Vince would have thought about that fucking face?
Starting point is 04:35:18 Anyway, so... Dino's not happy about being named Kill Switch. And then Christian turns to Nick, and he drops down to his knee right away, and he's, no, no, get up, son. You're the son that I always wanted. I love you. And your name is the prodigy Nick Wayne.
Starting point is 04:35:39 And I wrote Mike Bennett once his 2011 fucking gimmick back. The prodigy Mike Bennett. And then suddenly, here comes Nick Wayne's mother. and she is in a gimmick. She's a gimmick now. I assume if he's 18, she's got to be, let's give her 37, right? At minimum, one would think.
Starting point is 04:36:08 I'm not trying to say she was a child bride, so we'll go with that. I was thinking like 45-ish, but, you know, in that range, a talented woman for her age. I'm not trying to say, I'm trying to say the minimum age she can be is such and such.
Starting point is 04:36:22 I'm not trying to get anybody mad because I'm guessing her age. Right. She's got an 18-year-old son. We're going to say she's 37. She's dressed in a blue-gene jacket with studs on it like the Road Warriors' daughter and patches, and she's got boots on. She's dressed younger than Nick. She's a gimm...
Starting point is 04:36:42 If you want somebody's mother to come out and try to get sympathy as you're yanking her baby away from... her arms, do you want her to look like she was just down on more street corners than the fucking Dallas Times Herald? What do, does she think she's supposed to be a gimmick? Has nobody told her how this might work? I, I, did, did it bother you that she looked like a member of the Partridge family or something? The way she looked didn't bother me at all. the way she just ran out from the back into the ring
Starting point is 04:37:23 and then Christian, who's this fucking dastardly heel who obviously saw MJF's early stuff and said, I could do that. Christian all of a sudden goes, oh, what's your, what's your mom doing here? What's going on? All of a sudden he completely changes his tone because this woman is going to hit the ring like she's going to attack him or something.
Starting point is 04:37:40 And then the segment got even worse. Well, yes, because then he regained his composure and told her to get out of his ring and he knocked Nick's dad and verbally annihilated her, and she was fake crying. And then suddenly, Dino, Killswitch, stepped in front of her like he's going to defend her. And now he's screaming at Dino,
Starting point is 04:38:08 and he slaps him in a face. And it's going so long where he's screaming at him, and the guy's not doing anything to turn or to not turn. and finally he shoves double hand shoves kill switch and
Starting point is 04:38:24 the lizard fucking turns around and makes a sweeping motion with his arm and takes out Nick Wayne's mom I don't know whether she still has a fucking name
Starting point is 04:38:35 and he goes she goes down and stays there and never moved again now think about this, I'm about to explain to you what the fuck's about to go on here. She gets knocked down
Starting point is 04:38:53 by an arm, a stray arm from a guy that got shoved three feet into her. Christian tells Nick to get the chairs and slowly he does and they drag her motionless immobile body over to where they could put her head, the chair under her head. And then
Starting point is 04:39:13 they got the other chair. And then Christian is telling Dino to concerto, but now he's conflicted. He doesn't want to do it. And then Edge, or not Edge, but God damn Nick. Well, they'll let you do it. She's not breathing. She is completely motionless.
Starting point is 04:39:36 And then finally, Edge's music plays. So now we know he's got to have his music before he comes out to rescue a middle-aged soccer mom. and he makes a comeback on Dino and Nick and Christian escapes. And then Mom is awake at that point and is crying in the corner and Edge concertos Nick right in front of his mother. So who's the fucking heel here? Edge comes out to save the mother.
Starting point is 04:40:14 And instead of going after Christian, well, he went after him and Christian bailed, so instead of leaving to go after Christian, who is the instigator of all this, or the giant lizard that might be a physical threat, he takes his fucking teenage kid and in front of his mother,
Starting point is 04:40:34 he bashes the kid's head in with a fucking chair. What the fuck is going on here? This was an all-time bad segment. This was the moment Christian, I think, officially jumped the shark with a lot of AEW fans. I swear to God. I wrote, Cage is not the smartest man in the company.
Starting point is 04:40:54 At one point when he was insulting either Buddy Wayne or Nick Wayne's mom, Nick Wayne started smiling. It looked like he had trouble containing himself because of how ridiculous all this was. The teases with Luchosaurus, is that what anyone wants? A baby-faced Luchosaurus run against Christian? This thing was all time. Didn't they do this with Wardlow and MJF three years ago? Yeah, I guess to an extent.
Starting point is 04:41:23 Well, look, Christian's obviously doing an MJF Tribute Act. He's just, you know, updating it a little bit and getting more. He just repeats the same stuff over and over again. Your dad is dead. Your mom is this. You work the job as a waitress. What are you talking about? This is the best you can come up with.
Starting point is 04:41:39 Well, since nobody's doing the MJF stuff anymore, he might as well do it, though. They could have done Christian versus Edge and made it something that was must-see, and you couldn't wait to see these two interact. Instead, they gimmicked it up. And now it's just, I mean, they already wrestled in like a six-man or whatever.
Starting point is 04:41:57 It doesn't mean anything anymore. But also the bad acting around the periphery. It just makes it and takes the attention away from them possibly having an issue people would care about and muddying it up with all this other phony shit that who gives a shit. Where was the mother, who was she hanging out with backstage that she just happened to be there? This isn't in their hometown, is it? she just happened to be there?
Starting point is 04:42:21 No. No, she's Chicago was that tuddling town, not Seattle. No, she was, her son was there. She's probably haunting him, following him every, he's probably going to have to get a restraining or maybe be emancipated to get rid of it. He wrestles there. Who let her in the back?
Starting point is 04:42:38 I mean, whether or not she wants to have a relationship with her son, he said you're dead to me, and now he's hanging out with creepy Christian, who let this citizen into the back and then let her run out on the fucking entrance way she wasn't like at ringside raising a stink she ran out of the back like
Starting point is 04:42:56 Rio and she waited until Nick was about to be recristened or had been rechristened with his new nickname of the prodigy and then his old name that she gave him and then he she ran out because she couldn't stand no more
Starting point is 04:43:11 you know you can't give him a nickname I have been trying to talk to you I figured this is the place and the time to do it. You know, Christian should have come out and said, okay, we're going to change your name to Big Dick Hertz. And then she could run.
Starting point is 04:43:26 No, no, your father would hate that. I love you. Call me Big Dick. Oh, Big Dick. That's Mr. Hertz to you. Seriously, from the moment Adam Copeland came into now, do you want to see him and Christian one-on-one more or less? Less.
Starting point is 04:43:45 that's what they do that's what AEW does there was no audio whatsoever and when the Buccureus pitched to it they couldn't narrate over it I'm thinking
Starting point is 04:44:02 there's some legal reason that they couldn't so punk doesn't sue them maybe they couldn't maybe they couldn't transform it in any way or it would be because here's the thing they've announced an incident took place that distracted them and caused them to lose.
Starting point is 04:44:21 If we're just talking about an audience that watches this television program, if you're not following on Twitter, I know for our audience, that's hard. There are people out there, though, that don't even listen to us. Imagine that. But if you just watching this TV show, not social media, whatever, they've announced backstage footage of an incident between Jack Perry and another individual. and then when the footage comes up there's no audio and there's no narration
Starting point is 04:44:53 there's no there's Jack coming back from his match there is the other individual walking none of that you see Jack Perry and it's in color and there's eight or ten people in the immediate area and here's one thing the guerrilla position in the attitude era was like a fucking 10 by 10 foot tent with a lunchroom table, a monitor,
Starting point is 04:45:20 and three chairs, and a light on the desk. And if you had room to stand in the corner, if you weren't in the way, you could sneak in there. And generally on a raised platform with pipe and drape railing, so if somebody fucking stepped the wrong way, you might eat to fucking concrete. So if any kind of skirmish got triggered in that instance, somebody might fucking take a bump.
Starting point is 04:45:45 But this is a goddamn building hallway. It's lit up. There's doorways and hallways. And there's eight or ten people, you know, standing around doing their things. There's some producers. There's goddamn some technical people, apparently, not recognizable as wrestling folks. There's wrestlers.
Starting point is 04:46:06 There's everybody, right? And you see, Jack Perry walk back from his match and you see then Punk if you know who you're looking for then you can see him he's got X X XXX on the back
Starting point is 04:46:24 of his hoodie but otherwise you don't really know who the fuck because his back is to the security camera and if you're studying them instead of everything else going on in this picture where people are talking or standing around
Starting point is 04:46:40 then you notice that they speak to each other for how many seconds and then punk fucking shoves him bam and pushes him back a little bit and then goddamn
Starting point is 04:46:56 as we've heard happens snatches him in a front face lock and then as we've also heard Samoa Joe was there he was one of the people in the in a camera shot all along he runs up a couple things there that we heard from the
Starting point is 04:47:11 where you have to presume is the Jack Perry side of things that were kind of disproven. We heard that Punk tried to hit Jack Perry but missed. Punk tried to get him in a headlock but he couldn't get it and Jack Perry escaped. Samoa Joe had the pull Siam Punk away. It's the exact opposite of what happened. Chris Hero came around to help. Everyone was there.
Starting point is 04:47:36 Punk did exactly what he said. All those stories about, oh, he can't really fight. He didn't do anything to Jack Perry. That was spin from day one about this whole thing. Well, and the fact that this was a fight, I think was spin from day one. Because let's face it, Brian, of all the hundreds and thousands of locker room skirmishes, this, by the first time a legitimate one's ever been caught on video. I'm not talking about a match that turns into a shoot or people quit cooperating
Starting point is 04:48:03 get mad or whatever. I'm talking about something in backstage or in a locker room. First time ever, because nobody had cameras. And nobody had phones. and nobody had all that bullshit. But of all of the thousands of them that have happened in pro wrestling over a period of time, there was less to this than there was to almost any of them,
Starting point is 04:48:23 wasn't there? How could this be any less than a shoving match? You escalated from shove to face lock. Boom, pull apart into story. Good God, this wouldn't have been remembered till Thursday years ago. If you remember Samoa Joe at the media scrum after this one, he was asked about it, he was pretty nonchalant.
Starting point is 04:48:42 You know, I've seen worse fights. Wasn't much of anything. Tony Khan, who was on the other side of the table, whose hand reached out like a fan at some point in the video, he was scared for his life. Samoa Joe, who was in the middle of it, said, eh, wasn't a big deal when you watch it. It wasn't. That's the thing. Hold on here.
Starting point is 04:49:03 I got Paul Turner was there, the referee. Samoa Joe was coming from. the other side of from behind of Jack Perry to pull him back Jerry Lynn I believe it was from the footage available
Starting point is 04:49:19 I think is one who got punk and as soon as he you know they got there and punk let him go the same thing that he said on the interview he backed up and looked at everybody he turned to the right you can see him all you can't see Tony on this show because he's around the corner on this shot
Starting point is 04:49:37 he turns around he says this place is a joke you're a clown fuck it I quit he turns back around and yells something across the room and fucking throws his hands up and disgust and spins around and walks off back to his locker room and there's Jack Kerry standing there
Starting point is 04:49:55 dazed and confused yeah Malachi Black was going with him yeah exactly so the point is everybody's story was ridiculous this wasn't even a fight and they were all somehow kind of shocked by all of this
Starting point is 04:50:11 that Tony feared for his life and came out and said that publicly the following week on television, as we've said on this program since we heard it. That was legal verbiage that he was instructed to say by his crack legal staff at the time
Starting point is 04:50:29 that probably would have been laughed out of fucking court once they saw footage like this trying to avoid getting sued, but also, so Tony, this was what he was feared for his life for. This was a goddamn, also the fight that we heard about that
Starting point is 04:50:46 where punk tried to sucker punch him and all this other shit, what the fuck? The only person that had... I've seen a lot of that shit. It's not a sucker punch. If you're standing face to face with someone and saying, hey, you got a problem, want me know, and they're saying, do something about it.
Starting point is 04:51:03 And boom, both hands on to fucking pecks at a nice fucking velocity. he gets you a few feet away and if I did something about it. Boom, headlocked done. It's not a sucker punch if you're face to face. It's not a sucker punch. You're looking at it. Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 04:51:17 But that's what I'm saying. And it proved the story that punk had told to the point where, oh, Ariel Hawani actually put a split screen up on Twitter of the video of the incident on one side and punk telling the story on the other side and it matched up like the dark side of the moon and fucking Wizard of Oz almost does a second he's narrating it it is so it validated punk's story but how about what we had heard remember this apparently allegedly is the footage that brian danielsen and the attorney saw that made it crystal clear they had the fire CM Punk.
Starting point is 04:52:08 It was this footage that we kept hearing that. Well, Danielson's his friend. And he saw the footage and he said, there's no way that we can't fire him. Oh, yeah. Well, but now here's the thing, the attorneys I can believe, because there's still some of these fucking gutless morons out there on Twitter going, well, he assaulted a coworker.
Starting point is 04:52:25 He should be fired and prosecuted. Dipshits, this isn't working in a fucking bank. The goddamn, the fucking hockey team got to fight last week, which one of those you're going to fucking fire or prosecute or whatever, you dip shits. But this wasn't even a goddamn fight. And that's the point is I could see lawyers saying,
Starting point is 04:52:48 oh my God, but Danielson, I'm sure he's seen a bunch of better fights than this. And the point again is, don't fuck around and find out, Jungle Jack. Do you think he did it because he was in front of Tony? He thought, like, if there was ever a place, I'd be safe from this guy actually kicking my ass. It's right here in front of Tony Con.
Starting point is 04:53:10 Probably. Probably just thinking, well, he doesn't have time right now. He's got to go out. I could be back in the fucking hotel by the time he gets out of the ring. Whatever the fuck. You don't know. Like I said, because these are his friends. But the point is, what it did was it confirmed the story that C.M.
Starting point is 04:53:32 Punk told Ariel Hawani on that show. of what happened and whether you think that punk should have fucking shoved his ass or not personally I do because if I saw that smarmy little fucking smart I like face in front of me with those goddamn weird sideburns I'd probably want to fucking snatch him around the neck but this was not a big fucking fight it wasn't worth firing your fucking top star over
Starting point is 04:53:57 but thank you Tony because we're getting a great programming out of it now I'm talking about big time programming over on the other channels since you let punk go over to be another one of the biggest star with Cody's got the spot right now as the biggest star in the business but I think punk's coming up behind
Starting point is 04:54:16 Tony's let both of them go in the last two years so it proves punk's side of the story is what was legitimate and what happened and you still at the end of this if you didn't know that you were looking at CM Punk you didn't know you were looking
Starting point is 04:54:35 at CM Punk. Did you? They've never said his name yet to this time. Well, an important note because we did see footage, I'm assuming you may have too, on Twitter, on social media, people in the room filming the Tron, the big screen. So you get the live room reaction. Yes. They were chanting CM Punk. Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 04:54:53 They popped when he pushed Jack Perry and when he grabbed them. Yes. If they could get any of their angles that they do on purpose to get over like that in front of the crowd, they'd have something. But yeah, the fans were chanting CM Punk in the building, but they still couldn't say CM Punk's name on the video that confirmed the story that CM Punk had told. How does he help Jack Perry in any way for the future?
Starting point is 04:55:21 It does it because as soon as they see Jack Perry from any time that he comes back in front of a crowd, they're going to start chanting CM Punk, aren't they? He's wrestling on a New Japan show and, Chicago, I think, in the next week. I'm, whether it's New Japan, whether it's AEW, they're going to be chanting C-M-Punk. If they're chanting C-M-Punk at an AEW show now, when there's footage of C-M-Punk choking out Jack Perry playing on the Tron without even being identified, and what do you think there would be chanting when his little dipshit shows his face again?
Starting point is 04:56:05 Did you see it? Oh, go ahead. Did you see that? You talked about the footage of Ariel Hawani put up. AEW working overtime into the middle of the night putting up copyright strikes or going after people. Oh, yes. Who put up the surveillance footage. Well, but now, here, explain this to me because, yes, as soon, Ariel Hawani, he's a noted journalist. He got his copyright struck from old Aubrey Ed, Don Stevens, and got that video that I just talked about.
Starting point is 04:56:37 he put it up split screen taken down and everybody that tried to put the footage up, they've been copyright striking them. But did AEW copyright strike themselves, or did they somehow realize that they had royally fucked up after they got
Starting point is 04:56:54 the reaction that they got on Twitter and on social media, where when they put the clip up on YouTube of the Buccaroos interview, which the Buccarus came back after the clip, and supposedly closed up with trying to sell their tag team match, the security camera footage wasn't in there.
Starting point is 04:57:16 Did they copyright strike themselves out of trying to fix their dumb fuckery? I don't know, because, you know, you brought up an interesting point earlier because we don't know how it works in England, but they got this footage, and they were able to air it, but no commentary, no running dialogue, nothing, nothing to change the footage in any way. It could be their legal department saying that. but they took it out of the video. That means on their own,
Starting point is 04:57:42 they didn't put it there, but the strikes that people are getting, I mean, people are getting it pulled down from Jacksonville, Florida. So AEW is pulling down other people's videos for a different reason and they pulled down their own. Well, maybe it's the same reason. Maybe they realize, shit,
Starting point is 04:57:56 we didn't want people to see this after all. But then riddle me this then. They've got, what you're saying is AEW on their very own YouTube channel, put up the Maddie and Nikki's interview without the security camera footage, did they edit it or do they pitch to footage that doesn't live there and then come back and refer to it? I was told that it edits right from them pitching to the footage to the thing with FTR, which we'll talk about shortly.
Starting point is 04:58:27 Okay, but they were pitching to the foot. They were talking about that. That was the whole setup was talking about this footage. So how odd does that look for somebody watching it on YouTube where they're talking about this footage was the whole reason they lost this match and this horrible distraction and all this shit with this individual and then they go to an FTR interview. Can you imagine going through all this and then you're going to use the footage and then you can't make any money with it?
Starting point is 04:58:52 Maybe they can't because it's government footage. They can't monetize it on YouTube. Maybe that's it. Maybe that was a clue they shouldn't have put it on TV. Maybe that was the clue. Well, they already knew they couldn't monetize anything on this TV. TV show. So this, and again, before we even get to FTR coming out right then to do the things that they did,
Starting point is 04:59:20 people didn't like this. Even the normally, the people who like this kind of thing didn't like this kind of thing. Everybody started laughing at them, laughing at Tony, the, the buccaroos, the concept of this. people laughing that what the fuck the biggest star in your company is works for the other guys and you're trying to show footage of him and can't even say his name and he's beating up your wrestlers what the fuck for all the different reasons did have we heard from tony con on this matter since in the 12 hours or whatever since this has happened we have not uh i see someone here i remember we talked to
Starting point is 05:00:06 one of his tweets before. I don't remember which one. Gareth, W.W.E. Gareth on Twitter. CCTV footage is classified as personal data under GDPR law in the United Kingdom. C.M. Punk could quite possibly do the funniest thing ever. What? I guess... What would be the funniest thing ever? If it's personal data, if the footage of punk in the fight is punk's personal data, I think that means he could sue AEW for airing the footage. But no, but everybody in the fucking video then would be, it would be their personal data.
Starting point is 05:00:43 Would you have to have a class action suit or a majority rules or can anybody just get pissed off about it? I don't know. Well, we will find out, but no, nothing, no comment from Tony Kahn. No comment from the Bucks. This, it wasn't even close, was it? I mean, I know I've tried to block most of the Buckaroo, you know, fanatics out there, but I saw pretty much majority rule that it was a stupid thing they did and nobody could figure out why they did it. It's one of the most amazing counterproductive moments in wrestling history.
Starting point is 05:01:19 It's like, Hogan went on Arsenio, but it was at Bash 91. No good came out of it. The Live House. You know, the telling thing was the Live House's lack of reaction to Edge's promo last week. that should have been a sign for these guys that they're making a mistake with all this. And the CM Punk chants are louder now than they've been in AEW since he left.
Starting point is 05:01:46 Because every now and then you'd hear some of them and the AEW fans would say, oh, boo, don't know, he almost killed the company. They're louder than ever before lately. This was an amazing self-inflicted wound to the groin by Tony Kahn and the Young Bucks who were laughed at by everyone
Starting point is 05:02:09 who watched this show. Anyway, we move on now to the main event of the evening that everybody was talking about that Brian, I don't know if we called this specifically with Tony and AEW. We've talked about the subject.
Starting point is 05:02:26 We talked about it with Dixie Carter and T at A. And that's a... this is not a urban legend, it's a rule of thumb practically in a wrestling business down through history and small companies and large and outlaw situations all across
Starting point is 05:02:46 the width and breadth of the great country of ours if you found a fucking angel, a backer, a money mark, an investor, whatever term that you wanted to use, that was was not in any was not motivated by business
Starting point is 05:03:05 but more of the love of the game and or being involved in it and or some of the people that might be involved in it when they start losing patience or things look bad come up with an angle to put them on TV is this not god
Starting point is 05:03:22 has this not happened umpteen times over the years well say two things one sadly my first thought as this was happening was Dixie Carter. Fair or not, that was my thought. Secondly, I called this a few years ago. Tony's going to make himself an on-air character. That's what he really wants.
Starting point is 05:03:39 I also said he'll end up sleeping with talent, but we'll see. Now, I see, I couldn't take that leap with you. I was with everything else. I couldn't take that leap. But he made himself an on-air character. That is what he has wanted to do, and they're trying to do it to launch this. You know, when the NWO happened,
Starting point is 05:03:59 Hall and Nash were pretty big. I mean, they were big names, even when having to use their names. It changed business right away when they arrived. And then they added Hogan, an established name whose turn was a massive deal. And then they added Bischoff when Vince got over as a heel. And Bischoff wanted to be on TV more as a character and have fun with his friends or the guys he wanted to hang out with. And he's very good at it. We can't say he's not.
Starting point is 05:04:26 Bischoff is an exceptional on-air performer, I think. But the point is, you can't even compare this to Bishaw. Bischoff was aligned with a stable that was over. But that's what I'm doing. We don't have Kevin Nash, we don't have Scott Hall, we don't have Eric Bischoff, we don't have Hockegon. We got Tony Kahn, the Buccarus, O'Codee, and Jungle Jackoff. And remember what I said at the top about, this was the worst time to present an amateur production of whether it be the amateur booking
Starting point is 05:05:04 or amateur talent or amateur production, whatever. But can you imagine Tony Chavani standing there in the ring introduces the man of the hour, old Jungle Jack, and all 800 fans in the crowd saying, cry me a river, because he's the hometown fans. but he calls out Tony Con and Tony wanders out. Can you imagine? Again, I know this is pie in the sky dreaming, but if they had the average viewer, the average fan,
Starting point is 05:05:40 somebody that might want to bump these numbers up, any at all from where they've been forever, they're used to see in Vince McMahon or Eric Bischoff or Triple H. Here comes the guy that runs the thing. and then here comes Rick Moranis' stunt double and they're saying this is the guy that runs the thing?
Starting point is 05:06:03 That's not fair. He looked like Rick Moranis' stunt double when he's still at his glasses and he was still getting haircuts and he was still trying to look neat and proper when he got involved with the wrestling project all of a sudden, once things got going and he was on the road all the time with the wrestlers
Starting point is 05:06:21 the hair started growing, he doesn't shave. he looked unkempt, his hair was a mess, he had no presence, yeah. Is he smiling or grimacing, or is he constipated? All of that, and more. He's uneasy, he's got irritable bowels, he looks like his skin is literally crawling, and Jungle Jack then once he gets Tony in the ring
Starting point is 05:06:49 after he's called him out, he turns his back on Tony and starts telling him, his story to the handheld camera. And then it's more shit about how they've changed the world. They've changed the world. Yes. It used to not have a bad wrestling program on it. But it looks at him, Steve Simpson and Sean Simpson changed a world.
Starting point is 05:07:13 Yeah. Well, except, no, the Simpson boys were significantly taller. Okay. Than Jungle Boy. Fair enough. and then he's giving Tony the baby face speech and he swears to Tony that the only thing that he's ever wanted is what's best for AEW
Starting point is 05:07:35 and Tony claps then he's clapping and he looks touched and can you see the even if they're supposed to be keeping tension and storyline only and they're all best friends can you see a similar situation where a top guy that is just interfered and cost the world tag team title to go to the fucking heels and the company head whether it be the Bischoff or the Vince or the Triple H or whatever or the Nick Aldus or Adam Pierce having
Starting point is 05:08:10 a goddamn confrontation and the when the fucking guy who healed is pitching his case the authority figure is applauding what he says and clapping for him and smiling? You know what? I've always had a problem with you calling Kenny Omega Harpo because I love the Marks brothers. I know their work really well. And that's why I think I could say this was a Harpo Marx performance. He said nothing.
Starting point is 05:08:39 He reacted with his face, his eyebrows, his hands. All he needed was a horn. But he's out there. He's just like, he's a character. When you watch him, he's just constantly in motion and twitching and moving and reacting in both positive and negative ways to the same thing being said, because his head is constantly going. And I guess we're going to be seeing more of this.
Starting point is 05:09:01 Well, then it finally, and old Jack says, please shake my hand and reinstate me so we can change the world together. And Tony smiles and nods and gives the fans the thumbs up. and shakes jungle boy's hand and gives him the Tony Con hug. And that's when old Jack opens his eyes and smiles ominously at the camera. Like I've suckered him. And then Jack raises Tony's hand and lets him get some cheers from the crowd and then turns around. And with the hand he's got the microphone in, so it would have made some noise.
Starting point is 05:09:47 if it actually had worked, I guess. But he gives him a gut shot, a punch to the stomach, whereupon Tony takes one second to react at all and then takes a flat back bump. And somebody on Twitter said, well, here's what happened. Tony's head was so far up his own ass that the punch to the gut knocked him out.
Starting point is 05:10:15 And that's what it looked like. he took a flat back bump he landed knocked out and then all of a sudden he woke up and grabbed his stomach and rolled over yes and then exposed his ass to the world and then
Starting point is 05:10:31 then as he's laying there then here comes the Buccaroos and O'Cody acting like oh what the fuck has happened here what have you done and they're telling Jack get back stay away from him
Starting point is 05:10:46 they help Tony up and of course they tease when Maddie and Nicky help him up they tease giving him their shitty little double knee lift but they help him up to his feet and then Matt scoops him up like a sack of flour and they give him the safest ever melts her driver Olaf the one brother that does the flip what's his to Nicky
Starting point is 05:11:12 his ass takes some punishment on that move but Maddie dropped Tony his head wasn't six inches from the ring and but then they dropped him and they all stood up and stood there and glorified while the referees checked on Tony and the announcers were laying out like it'd just been the Kennedy assassination
Starting point is 05:11:35 either that or their microphones had completely gone out we don't know and then once the heels wander around and then leave as soon as they've gone through the entrance way, through the same entrance way, five seconds later comes every fucking job guy
Starting point is 05:11:51 and underneath wrestler on the fucking card followed by Shad Khan himself. Who I saw on the, again on Twitter, somebody had a nice fucking picture of him looking all concerned, but the caption was, give him another one.
Starting point is 05:12:09 Where's my money? Fuck the game. Where's my money? Where's my money, Tony? But, yeah, So then, and I'll let you begin commenting, but then they were off the air, by the way, exactly at 10 o'clock because they had some kind of important game this week
Starting point is 05:12:27 and couldn't futz with their numbers. But after the thing went off the air, there's footage on Twitter that a couple of stagehand-looking guys helped Tony up to his feet and throw one arm over each of their shoulders and Tony shuffles out under his own power after taking the dreaded gut punch from Ox Baker Perry and the Meltzer driver
Starting point is 05:12:55 from the fucking Bucceroos and they can't even pop for a stretcher for him. Your thoughts? I didn't see any of that post-match stuff so I can't comment on it, but again, Tony's out there, he just doesn't have any presence on camera. The other thing is,
Starting point is 05:13:14 we know who Tony is. And Tony's been shown just a tiny little bit lately with some of these elite segments. And he's made announcements in the past. But Tony's not really like someone the audience is invest. I shouldn't say that. For the people watching this show,
Starting point is 05:13:34 they know who Tony is and they like him. For the people watching religiously. But again, they're narrow casting for the for anybody they might, get besides the people they already got, they're the ones saying this fucking weasel is running this thing and these children
Starting point is 05:13:53 are dropping him on his head. What the fuck is going on here? And when you see Tony in there with them, Okada has some size. Tony was just as big as Jack Perry and the bucks and they all look ridiculous. That's the thing. The NWO looked
Starting point is 05:14:09 like badasses, looked like adults. Intimidating. Even D.X. in their own way. But the buck and Jack Perry, you already, I mean, it's like the two guys that punk kicked the shit out of and the guy that punk was about to kick the shit out of. And Okada. And Okada's like a sore thumb. He didn't have the chance to kick the shit out of it.
Starting point is 05:14:30 And Okada's like a sword. He's like lurch behind them. Because what's his role? His role is, you know, you're in the role of what Cody would have been. You know, what is this role that he has with the elite? The role is he rolls up to the bank every week for almost. nothing is that's what his role is Tony's made limited appearances
Starting point is 05:14:50 Shadcons never made an appearance or if he has it's nothing of note and nothing recent so the big thing at the end where he shows up the fans aren't even going to really know what that is well he was only on here for 15 seconds maybe or whatever anyway and we called that and by the way we said he was going to come back
Starting point is 05:15:07 and then he was going to form his stable of constables and who is going to be the first constable that he actually he ought to call the cops and say my son is embezzled $150 million from me. But that's... Why wouldn't the first thing be, okay, fire them? Thanks, guys. I just want to say, I've never felt my life was in more danger, except one other time.
Starting point is 05:15:34 But this time it was much more... Actually, I got hurt. Yeah. And a fired punk for making him feel like this for pushing a monitor or whatever. What about the bucks and Jack Perry? Well, yes, I mean, even in a working way, would you be more trepidacious about your future when a guy's fucking yelling at you
Starting point is 05:15:57 that he quits because the place is a fucking joke or when some fucking guy the same size as you that might or might not be able to fucking hold you in the right place is fucking picking you upside down and going to drop you on your head? I think I'd be more nervous than that. position. If Tony Con was going to do something physical on this show, and I think it was always an
Starting point is 05:16:20 inevitable thing. Again, it's for Jack Perry and the Young Bucks. Young Bucks are dead on arrival right now, and they're trying everything they can. Jack Perry, let's see how long it lasts. Again, he's a tiny guy, and they're going to be the badass heel faction? In a company filled with heel factions? Well, besides that, like you said, it was going to be. going to happen eventually because this is Tony's dream.
Starting point is 05:16:47 It's another part of his dream. He might actually get to take a bump in the ring and the fans will be worried about me. Wow, that'll be cool. And it'll all be part of this big angle. This isn't Bill Watts coming out of retirement for the last stampede. I'm sorry to tell you. Theoretically, this should have been a fucking major moment. And it would have been if they'd have built something and then used talent properly
Starting point is 05:17:14 and fucking putting their hands on a goddamn owner of the company. But instead it's with these fucking children that nobody cares about to begin with. It was executed in such a rotten way because Tony can't do anything physical. And nobody gives a shit. Except the reason why this was such a hot topic and everybody was talking about it is because it looks so desperate now. And everybody was making fun of it. and it was like, what the fuck is going on here? I don't know if that's good publicity
Starting point is 05:17:51 for the pulling the trigger on theoretically the biggest angle that you could fucking do. Laying out the boss. And now someone has to get even on behalf of the boss, and you can't just fire the heels because then no one could get even, I guess. And who could beat up the young bucks and Jack Perry there? I have no idea. if they drag FTR back into this, I don't think it works.
Starting point is 05:18:16 How many more times do they have to be beaten? You know, at this point, just wipe your feet on them and be done with it. And that's the other thing. Are we going to get a running like Mr. McMahon type thing where it's Tony all over the show now? And this is the beginning of that? Or is this just let's use me as a thing to hopefully get people talking? Well, I mean, obviously he doesn't need to do anything physical. And by the way, and let me just bring up to you, because I don't know if you'd be aware of this,
Starting point is 05:18:46 the NFL draft is today as we are recording. And NFL films, I believe, announced they were doing a documentary. They were following Tony Khan. Okay. With a camera. Okay. Well, that's perfect. That's why they did.
Starting point is 05:19:00 It's not about fucking business. It's about, well, this is the perfect timing for Tony to be able to take a big old wrestling move from his action figures, and it can be captured on NFL films documentary fucking footage. Well, there you go. Whether it was his idea or whether they put him up to it, they know that it is warm Tony's cockles to be able to do this at this time. But is he supposed to go to the NFL draft?
Starting point is 05:19:33 I don't know if he goes there if they sit in the conference room and just call it in. Well, if he's going to be being documented by the documentary people, shouldn't he have some kind of goddamn overnight hospital stay? Shouldn't he have had a neck brace on? Shouldn't he be? Hey, I did the neck brace thing on fucking Regis and Kathy Lee. The least he can do is for the NFL draft. There's probably fewer people watching that now than Regis and Kathy Lee from 30 years ago. I'm on the Jacksonville Jaguars website, which is an official NFL website.
Starting point is 05:20:06 control of the websites for the teams. Oh, I thought you meant the NFL was in control of all the websites. I read it. I was going to check mine. This is by Grant Gordon. Jaguars Tony Khan takes punch and pile driver on AEW Dynamite show.
Starting point is 05:20:22 Tony Khan's status for the Jacksonville Jaguars' 2004 NFL draft obligations could be questionable. Khan, the Jags' chief football strategy officer and the founder, owner, and Booker of all elite wrestling took a punch to the gut
Starting point is 05:20:41 and a Meltzer driver, pilot driver, Wednesday Night Live, Wednesday Night Live on AEW Dynamite from Daly's Place in Jacksonville, Florida. Shad Khan, Tony's father, an owner of the Jaguars, took to the ring to check on his son in the aftermath of the drama. It's all part of an angle, professional wrestling storyline, of course, but it was shocking nonetheless, as Tony Khan has never been physically involved in AEW to that extent, and his father's appearance added more realism to the stunning end of the show. It would have been hard to take any realism away.
Starting point is 05:21:25 Many people who know Tony Khan said, it's not surprising to hear that Tony did a few bumps. He's been known to do bumps. I'm making that one up. I'm making that one up. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All in the name of fun, ladies and gentlemen. Took a few bumps. It began with the returning Jack Perry, son of the late actor Luke Perry, and Tony Conn in the ring together, mending fences after Perry's very real suspension had been lifted. Perry had made his AEW return his past weekend after he had been absent following illegitial. legitimate backstage altercation with wrestlers C.M. Punk. Where he got goozled? Which led to the latter's dismissal from the company. Blurring the lines between storyline of reality once again on Wednesday, Perry's
Starting point is 05:22:16 embrace with Khan was all for show as he delivered a punch with a microphone to Khan's breadbasket felling his boss in the process. It's written like it's in PWA in 1975. Thereafter, the Young Bucks tag team, brothers Matt and Nick, who are executive vice presidents within the company along with being on-screen talent and top single star Kazushka Okada, entered the fray and scolded Perry. Once more, it was only a ruse, as Matt scooped up Khan and held him in position for younger sibling Nick to take to the top rope, fly off. into a front flip and come down to spike the helpless Khan.
Starting point is 05:23:04 The helpless Khan! As could be expected, Khan was protected well in the maneuver by the bucks, revered workers within the business for nearly two decades. Yeah, but protected well, my Aunt Lola could have taken that bump. What unfolds next could come Saturday on AEW's weekly collision and rampage offerings. That's also day three of the NFL draft, which kicks off Thursday from Detroit with round one.
Starting point is 05:23:30 The Jaguars currently hold the number 17 overall pick. Whether head coach Doug Peterson and general manager Trent Balk, if that is indeed his name, can count on Tony Con recovering from the heinous attack by Perry and the Young Bucks on Wednesday in Duval remains to be seen. So they're now doing that...
Starting point is 05:23:52 What is Tony's title there and the football team? He's the chief... Strategy officer. So does he come up with like goddamn okay on two, forward pass, drop back and punt, whatever. I thought that was the coach's job. What strategies is he implementing? You know, it's like when people hire their daughters
Starting point is 05:24:14 that make them Chief Marketing Officer or something. Well, I'm just... Chief Brand Officer. I'm just trying to ask a simple question. I wonder what strategies that Tony is coming up with that he's passing on to the football team. And when all of his great strategies are obviously going to wrestling, but that's how it's been covered by the NFL, the big news.
Starting point is 05:24:36 He's taken a punch and a pile driver from the dastardly heels. A punch in a pile driver. Punching pie. The question's going to be, and we're going to travel through time momentarily, Jim, the question's going to be the ratings because, again, if you tuned in wanting to see what was going to happen, and not knowing anything, the audio was really bad. If you stayed through that,
Starting point is 05:25:00 there were things that were on the screen that you may not have been able to hear, like Kenny Omega returning, but the Bucks thing was announced an hour before it happened, or the Bucks and Jack Perry, Tony Conn thing. So we don't know how many people would have been driven to the show. Now, again, they had a hard out because of the NFL, not the NFL, the NHL, hockey.
Starting point is 05:25:22 So you got to think people were ready, whoever wanted to see that game may have been sitting there ready. The question's going to be how they did in that last quarter, which is traditionally the worst quarter of every show. Well, at least they finished on time. But that's the problem is that I think now, you know, they've figured, okay, Tony will have more faith in this if he's in it or if it's, you know, he had a part in it.
Starting point is 05:25:52 and we know he wants to take a bump. Because nobody can possibly have thought that this would be good with people involved and the way that it was executed. It's just purposely to give Tony another thrill and get these guys more indemnity to continue not to produce any kind of numbers. Well, Tony can't cut us.
Starting point is 05:26:16 He's in the thing. He was part of it. What do you think will be next? Do you think they're going to talk him into the ring? Come on Tony You gotta do it Come on Tony Only you could do it Come on
Starting point is 05:26:27 You have to I don't think that's going to happen Until after the next rights deal goes down Then if it doesn't go The way that it's supposed to go We might see Tony Kahn as an active wrestler They have a new world champion Is anyone talking about that at all?
Starting point is 05:26:44 No Why the fuck would they talk about that? Well we will see what happens and I guess more than anything, we'll see how much this overwhelms the show and we'll see what the audience reaction is. Speaking of not liking someone's experience, now we get to the part of the program
Starting point is 05:27:00 where they have, they've done it again, they've managed to hospitalize one of their top names for the T&T title match and what they said was going to be a barbed wire cage. It turned out to be a cage, like a regular cage,
Starting point is 05:27:19 but with barbed wire wrappers, around certain parts of it, and for some reason, they started the match with two tables and two chairs laying in the ring inside the cage, between Edge and Malachi Black. I was trying to zip through the entrances to get some of this thing over with. Did they ever explain why furniture was laying in the ring? Just the safe time, so the guys didn't have to go into the ring and get it themselves. All right.
Starting point is 05:27:48 well within the first two minutes edge had opened malachi black up with barbed wire and they had used the chairs to whack each other with with the chairs and then they ignored them here's the thing edge is a great person he's a great guy and a great talent he's had a wonderful career he can work he can talk but he's not either setting an example or teaching any of these guys anything, when he, instead of, instead of teaching them what not to do
Starting point is 05:28:27 and giving them matches with him that, whether he puts them over or not, that elevate them in the ring and their talent and teach some kind of timing and experience of whatever, he's just doing the same stupid shit that they're doing. But he's 50 years old, and he's given them the idea that this is, shit that they ought to fucking be doing.
Starting point is 05:28:51 And a 50-year-old Hall of Fame talent doing garbage matches in a vanity project promotion is sad whether he means well or not. But nobody is going to...
Starting point is 05:29:07 What did he teach anybody here? How to break your own leg. Because that's what he did. But first, they had a garbage match. Malachi Black gets a barbed wire wrapped baseball bat. And instead of just drawing back and hitting him
Starting point is 05:29:28 with the fucking thing and winning the match one, two, three, he takes a baseball bat and rakes the barbed wire across Edge's head. And then Edge gets the bat and hits him with a gut shot at least, but then a supposed head shot. And then he's raking the barbed wire across Malachi, and then he throws the bat away. to set up a table.
Starting point is 05:29:52 If you're fighting a guy and you're beating him with a bat, why would you throw the bat away to set up a table? And then he hit him with a chair and put him on the table and started climbing the cage. But Malachi Black got up after being hit
Starting point is 05:30:12 several times with a baseball bat and crouched edge. And then Malachi powerbombed edge threw a table off the top rope and got a two count. And so I fast forwarded some. And I stop again. And at this point,
Starting point is 05:30:32 Edge has put Malachi Black on the table and tied him onto it with barbed wire so he couldn't move. And he climbed to the top of a 15-foot cage and came off with an elbow drop and broke his own leg and got a two-count. Well, you need to talk about the way he landed with that elbow drop.
Starting point is 05:30:56 He land, I mean, of all the ways I thought he was going to land when he did the leap, he landed in the worst possible. I didn't think he would land that way. Well, yes, but he couldn't do a splash because the fucking idiot laying on the table had barbed wire on top of him. And what he was trying to do. So his plan was to jump off the top of the cage and land feet first? His plan apparently was that he thought that he could jump off
Starting point is 05:31:23 and land and put his feet under him enough to break some fall where he could fucking the elbow drop where he'd only be risking his fucking arm instead of his whole goddamn body and face landing on the barbed wire. The elbow drop would still break the table, is what I got from it. He thought that somehow he didn't mean to just jump 15-15,
Starting point is 05:31:49 feet and land with most of his weight on his feet first and then. But the point being, he finished the match. And he's since revealed on Twitter and et cetera that he broke it. What is the bone in the lower leg? Tibia. Tibia. And, yeah, and he's going to have surgery of some kind and blah, blah, blah. But in the meantime, the match is still going on.
Starting point is 05:32:17 So then they went back and forth, and Malachi Black pulls a piece of the cage off and starts hitting Edge with it, knocks Edge through the cage door so they can go out on the floor. But then as they're on the floor and edge is speared, Malachi Black, here come Brody King and Buddy, they start to say Brody King and Buddy Lee. Brody King and Buddy, what is his name, Matthews?
Starting point is 05:32:49 and they stand next to Malachi Black like they're going to menace Edge and then they both go and turn and stand next to Edge. And Malachi Black starts begging off like, oh no, no. And then they turn around a beat up Edge. What was that? Why is Edge standing there in the middle of it? Oh, you guys are going to join me all of a sudden? I've never dreamed.
Starting point is 05:33:13 I don't understand because it happens so quick and it teased a lot very quickly. and then they immediately turned on edge. Why? Why? That's the thing. You're looking at Edge like a veteran who should be teaching these guys. Not like what he really is.
Starting point is 05:33:31 And I don't mean this in a negative way. We're all fans. But he's a mark. He's a mark for, he said it in that promo where he came out defending AEW after the punk thing. Where he said,
Starting point is 05:33:42 I grew up in Canada to seeing all sorts of wrestling. You got to love all sorts of wrestling. He's that guy. And he wants to do all these bucket list things in there. And again, the booking, I mean, the judgment day turned on, everyone turns on him. I mean, this guy can't get any, these guys turned on him after 30 seconds. So then they threw him in the ring.
Starting point is 05:34:07 And they threw more barbed wire in the ring. And they beat edge up three on one while the referee stood there watching slack jawed. And they put barbed wire around his head. or the Crown of Thorns type of thing for the religious imagery for those of you give a shit about that kind of shit. For those of you up on dark side of the ring where they just pointed out what a disaster
Starting point is 05:34:27 this was in ECW with the Sandman and Raven. Here you go. But then they never got that far because all of a sudden music and red lighting and gangrel came through the mat not only from underneath the ring
Starting point is 05:34:44 but through the mat and DDTed the heels. and then when that was finished happening Malachi Black kicked him in the fucking face and knocked him out. But then Edge speared Malachi Black and put the wire around Malachi Black's face and got kind of a cross face on him. And Malachi Black passed out and I was ready to join him. Because we were three hours into this fucking thing and it wasn't, the end was not in sight. But now, so now age is going to be out. how many months is that going to be?
Starting point is 05:35:22 For what, for what? I haven't seen a time frame, have you? No, but I mean, when you break your leg and you're 50 years old and you are a professional athlete, it's, and here's the other problem, TNT title, we're now going to get an interim champion? Are we going to get another tournament? I'm thinking of Battle Royal. You think Tony would go battle royal over tournament?
Starting point is 05:35:48 He loves tournaments. Well, we can't let the prestigious TNT title be vacant for too long. But the thing is, it was... I mean, everything's unnecessary nowadays, but it was an unnecessary spot. It didn't look good. I think if you thought it out well, you would think this doesn't... This won't look good. And then he hurts himself, and everyone hurts himself doing stupid stuff.
Starting point is 05:36:13 We talked about everyone breaking their legs, jumping into barricades. He broke his leg jumping off. a, he jumped off a cage with nothing to break his fall but his leg. And then he broke it. Yes, not the fall, but the leg. That had to be 15 feet. Every bit, that was higher than... That was a big cage.
Starting point is 05:36:33 That was a big cage. Think about this. That was higher than the scaffold match drop because the scaffold was 24 feet off the ground. Three feet for the ring, there's 21 feet, and a grown adult hanging underneath it, that would put your feet at about 13 feet off the ground, right? How old were you in 86? 25. He's double that, doing that.
Starting point is 05:36:59 And from farther. Yeah. But now, let's not even do it like that because then people are going to, oh, don't compare Cornett's athleticism at 25 with edges at 50, but neither one should have been doing it. But at least I had nowhere to go, but up after I went down. He's got nowhere to go but down after he went down. Because his condition is not going to get better from here.
Starting point is 05:37:27 Anyway, did you enjoy the Stampede Street fight between Samoa Joe and the Learning Tree Chris Jericho? Because it's Stampede Week, so naturally they got to have a Stampede Street fight. I heard complaints from people in the building about how long Joe was in the walls of Jericho. Oh, well, we have a way to time it because he got put in the walls of Jericho to go to the break, and he was still in the walls of Jericho when they came back three and a half minutes later. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 05:38:08 And I've heard of, you know, slowing down when you're in commercial break to catch your breath. But the point is Joe tried his best. He did the big dives. He did his stuff. but, you know, they start the street fight by Joe having to snatch Jericho's cowboy hat. And then Jericho dumps out a bag of horseshoes. And as I said, the lion tamer, Boston Crab, whatever the case, through the entire commercial break. And then the walk fight.
Starting point is 05:38:48 They go over the rail and they fight. in the stands and then they walk fight through the backstage. It just with their hands on each other, just walking. And they go past the coffee station and throw the hot coffee. And Joe gets a sleeper and Big Bill comes out of a fucking closet
Starting point is 05:39:06 somehow. With a chair and starts beating up Joe and then Brian Keith does. And Jericho hits Joe with his Dr. Martha Heart Belt buckle. The Dr. Martha. So now they're making a big deal out of Dr. Martha Hart
Starting point is 05:39:24 the ultimate baby-faced in Calgary gave Chris Jericho a gift of a belt with a big Western belt buckle and he's punching the guy with it poor Martha she didn't know her gift was going to be
Starting point is 05:39:40 used for ill but anyway then that they have beaten up and compromised and diminished and decimated and flabbergasted, Joe, and he's down, they put him on a forklift. And Brian, you remember the last time they built a fake room
Starting point is 05:40:05 so they could throw somebody through a window? Oh, that's right. And there was a guy in the fake room who just disappeared? Yes, because the walls didn't meet. Well, I'm telling you what, that was a goddamn restoration of the Notre Dame Cathedral. next to this fucking apparatus that they used next
Starting point is 05:40:25 because they goddamn they put Joe on this forklift and Jericho revs up the forklift and drove him through what can only be described as an obviously
Starting point is 05:40:41 fake drywall drywall wall that was attached to nothing and was just hung up freestanding with no studs and held up with clamps. It didn't meet... Not only did it not meet the walls around it,
Starting point is 05:41:02 but they were all concrete. Well, there was just this fucking... About eight foot tall, 20 foot wide stand of drywall. And when the forklift went through it, you could see not only were there unpainted two-before's on the face side, of this wall that you could see. But when it went through, you could see that Brian, you're a homeowner.
Starting point is 05:41:28 I don't know how much building codes you have studied. I've watched a lot of people remodel around here lately. How close together do you have to have studs? How far apart of your studs usually? Oh, I have no idea. Well, 15 to 18 inches. You know how far apart their studs were? In this wall, about eight feet.
Starting point is 05:41:55 And not only that, but before he drives through it, besides being able to see the naked unpainted two-befours, maybe even one-by-toos on the outside of this thing, you can still see sawdust on the floor in front of it where they've just constructed it. It doesn't meet the concrete wall on the side or behind of it. it's just freestanding and it's held up with clamps and it's an area where you go under the stands there
Starting point is 05:42:28 that's why there's a sign that says caution low clearance because you're just walking underneath something in it looks like this in almost every arena I've been in if it's a slanted area where the stands are going up and it's triangular and you're walking through a hallway around that area they just put up a goddamn big mess of drywall so they could run the forklift through it. And so now they're stuck under the bleachers
Starting point is 05:43:01 and Colt Cabana comes out, referred to as one of the coaches, and is yelling at Jericho and the doctor stopped the match. Because the match, of course, it's still been going on. Up to that point, they'd only been in the back about three or four minutes. And then they come back after the break and do a replay of it. Like we needed to see it again. And when Cabana came through, he just reached up and pushed the fucking drywall.
Starting point is 05:43:36 And it just crumbled in his hands like he was a goddamn incredible fucking bulk. And then they load Joe in the ambulance and drive him out while Jericho and Big Bill and Brian Keith are standing there waving goodbye at him. so poor Joe he tried his best he's a quality talent but and why somebody leaves in an ambulance every week now so why are we supposed to be shocked or upset
Starting point is 05:44:09 they just did this last week now so every week who's going to be next week now people will start betting on it and again we saw too big attacks at the end of each show, so Tony, in his mind, is obviously heating things up, getting ready for the big August shows. Joe is a TV show to film, so he'll be back soon enough.
Starting point is 05:44:32 But Jericho, the story's still Jericho. How awful he is. How awful this gimmick is. Every little bit of this. And he's one of Tony Khan's biggest weaknesses, because he can't get past the fan that he is a Jericho. But God damn, get this fucking guy off TV. Tony should spend some money and book Chris on like a tour
Starting point is 05:44:56 of like Asia for like three years. Let him really go out there and spread rock and roll to the world, his brand of rock and roll to the world. And let us live our lives, us wrestling fans. Atrocious, garbage, awful. We need to stop trying to justify his attempts to stay on TV for the remainder of this giant contract. And now we know also he's the shits at doing
Starting point is 05:45:20 drywall. And on commentary. He had to have done it himself. Cherico put that thing up himself because nobody that's ever constructed anything would have I could have pushed a plastic bag through it. Yes, no. I'm just, do it just blow on it. It would have fallen down. And it's not like this is a high definition television television television television. And this is Russo shit. We're going to put you out a track on a for
Starting point is 05:45:50 no reason and drive you through a drywall that doesn't exist. So Jericho and his friends could wave goodbye in the parking lot. This is why people compare this to late WCW, to late period WCW. It's terrible. Yeah, somebody's on their period. So then we come to one of the highlights of the program. The video apparently, I think, because now Jungle Jack off, old Jack Perry, he's messing around with Darby Allen
Starting point is 05:46:22 so Darby being the the avant-garde filmmaker now is trying to do old Jungle Jackoff's videos with the artsy video effects kind of like a non-scary version of the Wyat's he's watching highlights of himself well now can you deny that it's what it is it's like the Nickelodeon version of the Wyat's this video
Starting point is 05:46:45 yes he's watching highlights of himself on various screens, what he's been doing, and he's got a dramatic, scripted voiceover that he's reading over the top of it. And suddenly, unless,
Starting point is 05:47:04 I mean, maybe part of this is the, you know, the young kids in their art to the Sundance Film Festival type of thing. Maybe I'm not up on the modern day hidden meanings in these avant-garde videos, but I could swear just from a layman's point of view.
Starting point is 05:47:23 I was watching this video on old Jack Perry and suddenly a Taco Bell commercial popped in the middle of it and just played right on out. Were they trying to lull us into some kind of false sense of security and then come back and tell us that it was Jungle Jack all along that's in cahoots with Taco Bell to screw Darby Allen? Or could this have been some type of, I don't know, a fuck up! it was so weird because I'm like, well, that was short.
Starting point is 05:47:53 And it just went to, but I was also thinking, oh, that was the end, but it was short. And then after the commercial, and then when I went right back to Jack Perry. It goes back to the video. This was hysterical. Everyone jumped on this. I thought at first this may have been just like my cable system. But then also after the went back to the Jack Perry video, the next thing to play was the Taco Bell commercial. Yes, it played again.
Starting point is 05:48:14 So you saw. They got their money's worth. You saw the fur, at least they weren't placed like Domino's was that time and the bank addicted drug robbers fucking Pete Scudder match. You saw the Jungle Jack video. Then you saw the Taco Bell commercial in its entirety. Then they go back to the end of the jungle jack video. We're still playing.
Starting point is 05:48:37 So now he's got an axe and he's smashing all these monitors. And then a Wyatt-style goat mask pops up on one screen with the word scapegoat statics in, and then it goes to black for 10 seconds, and then the Taco Bell Spot plays in its entirety all over again. And I think the Taco Bell Spot may have given me less gas. I don't know. I mean, obviously something happened at Master Control.
Starting point is 05:49:18 but I don't really know how you would do that on purpose if you tried unless they're completely unmanned now is it all computerized and somebody entered the wrong numbers and there's no human being there sitting there to go wait this is not supposed to happen this whole Jack Perrin but it's so snake bit. That should be his real name.
Starting point is 05:49:50 Snake bit and Jack? Yeah, instead of scapegoat snake bit. Who's going to be the scapegoat at the network for running this ad twice? Taco Bell's going to be happy. Oh, we got her bang for a buck. Two for one. I swear to God, when they came back on the air, I thought for sure sock face was going to have to say something like,
Starting point is 05:50:08 ladies and gentlemen, Jack Perry is not affiliated with Taco Bell in any way, but they came back to a Darby Allen promo and he didn't have the chance. I thought at least they'd say, there were some problems we'll replay that video. They never even addressed it. They just kept going. I think they considered themselves lucky that we didn't have to watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 05:50:26 It may have helped the ratings. Is this the first time that there's ever been... They've done picture and picture during commercial breaks, right? But have they ever done a commercial break during their picture and picture? You know, I thought Michael Cole used to be relatively abrupt on Raw, where he would just be like, you know, he's on the floor! Oh, okay, that's a commercial break. but this takes it to a whole new level. Boom.
Starting point is 05:50:50 Don't take them long to get to that money-making. How pissed off you think Jack Perry was. Well, I give two shits about him, but what do you, they would do you think they saw that on the monitor that they, are they watching? Tony's watching it. No, no, Tony pays attention to social media. So if something happens, he does know about, absolutely.
Starting point is 05:51:12 But no, here's what I'm saying, or what I was going to try to say, and I was thinking about it as I was saying it. I bet you, Tony at the guerrilla position is watching the actual feed from the truck of the show. Somewhere in the truck, probably, they have a monitor of the live airing of the show as it's going out over the network. If I had to guess, I would say that's probably the way that it's set up. So Tony would have been seeing the video, but in the truck, they probably looked over at a monitor over in a corner of the way. way, way, what the fuck? This is the setup Jack Perry versus the Taco Bell Chihuahua in the future.
Starting point is 05:51:55 But the goddamn thing is the Chihuahua's not going to be able to make weight. He's really going to have to cut. I don't think he can fucking do it. Well, that was that. Should AW take advantage of this and contact Taco Bell and say, hey, would you like to be involved in this Jack Perry Darby Allen feud? They could have a Taco Street fight or a Taco Truck fight or, There's some kind of match with the wrestlers.
Starting point is 05:52:20 And, of course, we could have at least, you know, Jack Perry's mom. It's a tradition to have the mom show up for a street fight in AEW. Was that why when Darby did the promo in the back when they came back from the break, he was wearing a pink terrycloth bathrobe because he was imitating a pink taco? I mean, did. When I was sitting there looking at it, he said the hood is over his head. It's like a woman's pink terry cloth bathrobe with the hood over his head. and I wrote all these people are just fucking strange.
Starting point is 05:52:51 Just fucking strange. I can't get past, I mean, I hate to go back to a few weeks ago, but I was talking to someone else about it the other day. When they had Darby dropped out from the ceiling and they came out that they asked Dr. Martha Hart for, you know, permission. Just the idea that the audacity of having that conversation. Now, don't phrase it in that way because...
Starting point is 05:53:12 For her blessing and doing it, I guess. If she was comfortable with it or what she thought, of it. I can say, but the audacity of having to ask her that is the way of it. Why not why not just not do it there? Why not do it in that instance? Why, you know,
Starting point is 05:53:30 because, you know, everybody's still talking about it. Man, no one's talking about anything with that feud. The young bucks are in the middle of that feud. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's what they did something like that and everybody's not talking about it. Well, there it is.
Starting point is 05:53:46 the inflated sense of self-importance that we call the volume 2 AEW worst of omnibus. Jim, any closing thoughts on a remarkable era? Well, it's not over yet. The era of worst of AEW is yet to come. I mean, we are in a potentially a brand new era of even more badishness and rottenality. So I'm sure we'll have more broadcasting to come in the near future. Plenty more buses are going to hit this carcass in the street. And plenty more things will be part of the worst of.
Starting point is 05:54:22 Hear them as they happen on the experience and the drive-through wherever you find your favorite podcast. Of course, the official Jim Cornett YouTube channel and go through the archives. Patreon.com slash cornet. For Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last. Telly-ho! Is rottenality a word?

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