Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 351
Episode Date: July 17, 2024This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite & last week's WWE Raw! Plus Jim talks about Stephanie Vaquer signing with WWE, If AEW is cold because WWE is hot, ratings, and much more! Se...nd in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello again, friends!
And you are our friends.
And welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett try through another happy edition here on another happy day.
I'm your host, The Great Brian Last, fun, positive wrestling talk with me and this man, the leader of the cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim Cornett.
If it makes you happy, then why are you so sad?
I'm fairly certain the entire audience can agree that Cheryl Crow is not a good mix.
Her catalog is not good for you.
Well, no, she's a fine artist.
She's a great...
Slagging off on Cheryl Crow.
An extremely talented artist, an extremely talented songwriter.
Her material doesn't work for you, for your range, for your whole feel.
You think it's because of my character?
It doesn't work with my character.
It doesn't work for me, bro.
It's your key.
You could do maybe like a steep.
Nick's kind of thing. I don't know about Cheryl Crow.
Whoa, but on the age of 17,
who,
that's more like it?
I think we just cut into our key demo and they're gone.
Maybe never to return.
Maybe the next stop for me is AEW television,
where I can have a good audition and a record company will sign me up
because that's the place now you go to audition for good
jobs, right? They'll just let you on television. Yeah, go out and juggle those plates and keep the
things spinning on top of the deal and you'll be on a big time variety show on network next week.
You know, it's funny. I was thinking about it the other day. Just what is a celebrity nowadays?
It used to be as simple as if you were on TV, they would tell you like, the next day you couldn't
go anywhere. People would recognize you and see you. And that was it for the rest of your life.
in the Matthew Perry from Friends biography or autobiography memoir
he wrote that the producers I told the entire cast
the night before the show debuted
go out and have a great time because you're never going to do this ever again
ever
and you realize today it may not be the person on TV
as much as the person on the phone
the person on YouTube or TikTok or Instagram
that's kind of the new celebrity that can go out and get
recognized more than the TV star?
But,
conversely, will it
last the rest of their life
or in about six weeks?
Is anybody going to recognize
any of these dumb shits?
See, that's the question. When you had a network
TV, when you had a network behind
you and a network TV show,
your star and your celebrity
could last well into the future, because it wasn't
just you and your organization pushing
you. It was an entire
conglomerate stealing your
money and pushing the content.
Yes. You were being
conglomerated on. But when it's just
you and you have to have a team, that's a lot of
work for a long-term future, unless
you're going to try to just cash out early.
The thing is, is that
they were creating shit that
multiple millions of people wanted
to watch. And then because it was
on Kinescope
or then videotape or whatever,
they were reruns
over and over.
And, you know, we can thank Lucy and
Desi for figuring that out early so that a lot of this, so you were, is any of this internet shit
that do internet reruns on TikTok? Oh, look what was hot two years ago. It's in syndication now.
Well, things can get hot again, but again, that's a different model. You're just producing content,
putting it out there. It's very of the moment, how much of it's really going to last. And
what I was going to say before, that Huck to a girl who's now a big celebrity and apparently
has an agent. Did we get her number yet?
We did not get her number.
We'll see if Tony gets her in Nashville for the big AEW show.
But she's been doing all sorts of appearances and interviews now.
Apparently, the guys that filmed the interview with her are now upset because they're not getting attention.
There was some article.
Like, they're upset that no one's focusing on them.
Everyone's focusing on the girl they interviewed.
They get to keep the money from whatever video they did.
But she's now got all the fame that they wanted.
Well, let them draw back a luggy and spit on a good big,
throbbing dick.
And then they'll get some notoriety, too.
She didn't do it. She just spoke of it.
There was no actual...
Well, it sounded to me like she had plenty of fucking practice.
And phlegm.
And phlegm.
Saliva. Maybe not phlegm.
Saliva.
Well, you know, when you're going, you can't really differentiate between the two
unless you've got a test tube and nevertheless.
Where were we going with this before we started spitting up?
Well, these fucking camera people.
Modern celebrity.
And they need to know their role and shut their mouth, though.
They're out there covering the news.
Walter Cronkite didn't think he was as big of a star as Monacham Began, did he?
Probably when he went to the restaurant, he wanted a table he did.
Well, that's true.
But also, it depends on what country you're in.
That's right.
I love the name Monachim.
Great name.
Monaghan, you can't knock him.
Can't knock him.
He's Monacom.
People name Monachem.
You know what else you can't knock?
What's that?
Cornett's collectibles.
Well, son of a gun.
I don't know why I didn't think of that before.
You can't knock them, but you can buy them.
And folks, I'm telling you what right now, let me tell you what I'm going to do.
Just because I love you, just because I want to keep your business, I'm going to let you people go to Jimcornad.
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Well, there you go.
Now's a good time.
It's summertime.
You need your action figures,
get the Midnight Express.
You can play with them in the pool.
That's right.
And because you'll have two different tag team sets,
you'll have Bobby and Bizarro Bobby.
Well, you could have Bob and Bobby
and Duncan Dennis and swim and stand.
Did anyone ever call him Bob?
Well, yeah, all the time.
I mean, we did.
hey Bob what are you doing that type of thing but nobody actually like hello bob eaten nice to meet you
you know what did you think when he became earle robert oh god i was watching as much as i could at that
point we were otherwise occupied but i always tried to watch what bobby was doing and i love
regal at that point also well i'm not saying like i don't love him now like i loved him at that point
point, but later I learned to hate him. No, I'm just saying I was a fan of his when he first
came to the country. So it was also knowing Bobby, I think that was why they came up with
the gimmick, knowing that as far as background, not wrestling philosophy and not being just
nice guys, but as far as background and upbringing and geographic location in the world
and vocabulary, Regal and Bobby were about as far apart as two people could be.
So Earl Robert Eaton was, I'm sure, at some level to entertain people in the office.
When Regal first came to WCW, I forget if it was the end of 92, I think it was the beginning of 93.
He was a baby face, and he was as bland as you could be.
It just wasn't working.
I was like, why would they sign this guy?
And then as soon as they put him with Dundee, and as soon as they made him the aristocratic Lord Stephen Regal,
and he started with his facial expressions, it was like...
A shit-sniff and look.
Immediately was like a different guy.
And he was such a,
it's not that he was a better worker,
but he was so,
it suited him better to be a heel
than a baby face in the ring.
Yes.
Well, and because he was also able to draw
on the world
of sport, the, you know,
British style heel,
a lot of different stuff that hadn't been seen
here on a national basis
and only regionally with,
you know, the Adrian
Street.
and people that might have worked the territories.
So, you know, that, that, that, he was able to bring that out also, and that's what, you know,
he was different at that point.
So people could hang their hat on it, as J.R. used to say.
The most underrated period is right, well, I shouldn't even say that because I think a lot of
fans really love it.
Right before Hogan got there in 94, when all of a sudden you had Regal feuding with Zabisco,
and you had flare, feuding with steamboat, and you had,
Mick Foley is Cactus Jack, obviously, and either Max Payne or Kevin Sullivan with the nasty boys.
There was like two pay-per-views in a row, Spring Stampede and Slambury, that were amazing, and then Hogan signed and everything changed for a while.
But that's the William Regal story, Stephen Regal, but we're going to get now to the body of the show.
The body?
You mean, it's dead already?
I thought at least it was on life support this early in the program.
We have a few reviews, but we're going to try to get to some other stuff here, too.
Let me just ask you, are we going to do it on the experience, the WrestleMania Excel behind the curtain?
Yes, we are on the experience.
According to my to-do list of things for the weekend, that is what is planned on my schedule, sir.
All right, I suggest a barf bag, if you're going to be sitting there and watching.
Well, I've also, I've been very busy the past couple of days.
I won't bore to people with my busyness, but I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm trying to catch up on this thing, but I've heard that, yes, that there is some, I'm, I'm, I'm going to expose the business here.
I don't see how I'm going to like the concept of a bunch of people sitting down and talking about how they constructed, whether it's true or not, whether they, how they constructed all this to put on a show for the folks.
They should make a documentary about how they constructed the documentary.
Well, that might be more interesting, trying to figure out how they rewrote the history based on the footage that was at hand, but I can't see Bill Watts drawn 20,000 people to the Superdome in the following week on TV, he tells everybody how he figured out how to book it.
I'm just, I, but we'll see.
Jim, let's start today with a story that everyone's been talking about. It's kind of fascinating.
Stephanie Vakor, if I am pronouncing her name correctly.
I think it's Vacker.
Well, she just appeared on the AW-F forbidden door paperview.
Put an L, put an L'L instead of the V, and it would be lacquer, right?
Like the varnish.
Lacour.
No, that's like liqueur.
That's a...
She's from Chile.
She's from Chile.
It's a different pronunciation in Chile than it is here.
And then you say Chile.
Chili.
You see?
Chili.
You see, that's the difference between Vacker and Vacour.
Well, we may need some liquor to get through this show, but Jim...
So the point is, what about Stephanie Vacker now?
Well, she just appeared on Forbidden Door, had that match of Mercedes-Money, to a lot of people,
she was the more impressive of the two in the ring.
She was on AEW TV.
To ever, everybody in the building was cheering for her.
She was on AEW TV for several weeks leading up to the Forbidden Door pay-per-view.
She is a CMLL, I believe she was a title holder there, and wrestled as part of New Japan
Pro Wrestling, CMLL, AEW's
Love Triangle, whatever
to thought.
The alphabet soup, she carried a couple of belts out
with her. I think maybe had a wheelbar
with some more of them. Well, within a
few hours and a day or two,
everything kind of broke. We have here an
announcement from
CMLL and New Japan Pro Wrestling.
Thank you for supporting
Concejo
Mondial de Lucha Libre,
CMLL and New Japan Pro Wrestling,
NJPW, I know I pronounced that correctly,
citing personal reasons,
Stephanie Vecor has elected to depart from the CMLL
and New Japan Pro Wrestling rosters
effective immediately.
As a result, Vacour will not compete
in her scheduled match against
Louvia at Fantastic Media.
What?
L-L-U-V-I-A.
Or it could be
I'm not even going to try
At Fantastica mania
July 13th in San Josei
Would that be like the Spanish version of like
Lama? That's the only other
word I can think of that begins with two
L's. Is she the masked
llama? I don't know.
I'm sure find out. Furthermore,
CMLL announces
CML hereby announces
Vakura stripped
of both the CML World Women's
and World Women's Tag Team Championships.
She held two of their top titles there.
Jesus Christ.
This Saturday, a Fantasticamania USA,
a new CMLL World Champion,
women's world champion, will be crowned
in a three-way match
featuring Louvia from CMLL,
Viva Vaughn, or Viva Van, whatever,
I'm not sure, from New Japan Pro Wrestling,
and Willow Nightingale from AEW,
we remain committed to ensuring
the highest quality wrestling for our
fans at Fantastica Mania, USA this Saturday, and at all future events.
Shortly after this, I believe Sean Michaels put up a tweet, welcoming her to WWE and
NXT.
She put up a tweet.
Let me go to this.
At this moment, I stopped belonging to the ranks of CMLO and New Japan Pro Wrestling.
Clarify, I am leaving through the big door.
What?
This is a translation.
Forever grateful to the World Wrestling Council.
Who translated it?
Howie, the mailroom guy?
And New Japan Pro Wrestling.
And in the best terms, from today I vacate the CMLO World Women's Championship
as well as the World Women's Couples Championship,
for which I offer an apology to the fans.
For obvious reasons, I will not be present at the next shows.
And I hope you can understand that the terms between companies are what led to this statement.
with Mexico in my heart.
No, no, we don't really understand, do we, Brian?
With Mexico in my heart.
And with the commitment to represent Mexican wrestling wherever I go,
infinite thanks to Signor's Salvador Luteroth for his good wishes.
It's so funny, there's another Salvador Luterov.
How old would he be now, 120?
And he also said that Jerry Lawler is Mexico's wrestler of the year.
No, and also thank you for the unconditional support of my people and my colleagues.
Thank you.
Let's get away from the translated stuff for a little while.
Stephanie Vakor apparently surprised CML and New Japan Pro Wrestling.
AEW apparently made an offer for her.
WWE in the past, she was not, I don't know how you put it, she was not taken in after a tryout.
She was like the rest of them were taken in.
But maybe they've had her off.
But maybe they've had her eye on her.
The timing of this means they either signed her within two weeks after Forbidden Door
or they were talking to her before Forbidden Door.
She did all that stuff on that TV show and then immediately signed.
But this is reminiscent of WCW.
Remember when WCW in like 90, 91 were put people on TV?
And then Vince would just take them because they weren't signed.
They were just putting anyone on TV.
The Nasty Boys jumped right after their big high profile program with the Steiner's.
Yeah, well, backing up a second, a lot of times in those days in the early 90s, they didn't want to commit to, they had a certain set amount they were going to spend on talent because everybody was just making their guarantee, no more.
And they would just bring guys in for, oh, he's got a deal in Japan, well, let's bring him in for some TB shots or whatever.
And that's how Vader was there for a few appearances one year and then came in the next.
He wasn't going to go to the WWF at that point because his Japan thing was too lucrative.
But nevertheless, back to modern day, here's the thing is, and this, maybe the new ownership is changing all of the procedures they've gone through.
But obviously, I've talked to guys over the last, on and off the last 15 or 20 years going through the process, even after I was not involved in their developmental anymore.
and they have to go for the medical exams,
and they have to check them out for this,
and then blood work and background checks.
And so if they are not doing that anymore,
you're like, hey, you know, we'll sign you up now
and find out later on that you were on some type of list somewhere or whatever.
They've had to have been talking for a while
because they wouldn't announce it.
Unless later on, she either flunks the blood test because they find out that her septum is leaking through her brain or whatever, or, you know, she's on an international watch list of some kind.
And then they, oh, sorry, never mind.
So I would have to think they've been talking for more than two fucking weeks.
Doesn't that make sense?
It does.
You would think so.
otherwise it says a lot that this happened that quickly
and that she used Forbidden Door as a showcase.
Typically, it's been a showcase of international talent for Tony to sign.
In this case, she used it to get a bigger deal
technically in the long run, because even if Tony was offering her more money,
if she becomes a top women's wrestler in WWE,
it's a different world altogether.
But she just wrestled the other night, apparently,
in Guadalajara, her final match for CMLL,
she beat Tessa Blanchard.
they embraced.
She kind of got a little emotional, it seems like, you know,
she's the only winner knew was her last match there.
Yeah.
But she left, does that bother you at all?
Her leaving with two titles,
she left beating Tessa Blanchard,
so beating, I would assume,
one of the top foreign stars
among the women wrestlers in Mexico, right?
Well, but here is something else
that we all need to find out more about.
Because if she
was on good terms with this company in Mexico.
Even if the WWE called her up and said,
and the AEW thing hadn't happened,
wasn't going on,
whatever,
doesn't matter whether it was or wasn't.
If the WWE calls her says,
hey,
you want a job,
and she says,
yeah,
I do.
I'm working here in Mexico.
I got these two belts.
They would usually say drop them,
finish up.
We'll fly you up here and do this.
fucking testing, whatever.
It's not like stealing her away from
the company without her losing these belts
means anything to the WWE.
It wouldn't have made anything to Vince. It doesn't mean anything to the new owners.
It almost has to be
she told them, I want to fuck out of here.
I don't want to deal with these people anymore.
I don't want to work for them ever again.
I mean, what else could that be?
I can't believe that they would, in Stamford, they would say to this young lady,
it's not like they're stealing the AEW world champion.
You know, don't finish any dates, don't ever work for these people again, don't drop the belts.
That's what Vince would do.
But not for somebody like in another country.
That's when he did the junkyard dog, right?
I mean, again, a different example, but that's what junkyard dog did.
He left without notice, without jobs, without anything.
Well, no, that's good.
I'm talking about this is another country and she ain't a junkyard dog to the American audience right now.
She had one match on a pay-per-view that was seen by, you know, 100,000 people, whatever the fuck.
And by the way, you know, you say that and you're right, this may be the biggest shot WWE's taken at CMLL ever, right?
was Mystico,
Mistico left and became Sincara on his own.
But this, I mean, this is a pretty,
she was two champions there.
This is a pretty big hit.
Well, now, the WWE, are they,
have they recently,
or are they about to run a house show in Mexico?
I believe.
I read this.
Yeah, I believe they are going to do something.
You got to know she's going to be there.
That's where you should debut or have her make her first appearance.
Well, we don't know it.
yet, but when it happens, whether she is or isn't, might tell us something, because did they
sign her not with the theory that, oh, we got this girl away from AEW, but we got this
girl away with a couple of belts from CMLL, and we're about to run Mexico more often.
Is that a strategy?
What I'm saying is, is that I can't believe that one of the reasons why that Stephanie,
was so popular with the fans at Forbidden Door
was because they just dislike Mercedes Moons so bad
and in an annoying way.
Right?
So one match couldn't,
they wouldn't drop everything and say,
fuck testing, fuck background check,
sign this girl now,
unless there had been contact going on,
or unless they thought,
Mexico, there's a market that she could be important,
in or something other than
we gotta get this girl away from
AEW when she wasn't even signed to AEW
I've been it helped me connect
other dots that you know the other thing is
I think a lot of people forget because
the advent of AEW you know one of the things
it was was kind of a shot at WWE even if not by Tony
Khan and AEW itself the fans it was you know we don't
we've had enough of WWE and Vince McBand we have this now
people forget that you would have to imagine the majority of people who become professional wrestlers
and get into the business in this day and age of their dream is to make it to the top of
WWE because that's where you'd make the most money, that's where you'd have the most exposure,
and quite frankly, that's what you've been watching on TV since you're a kid.
So despite management, whatever is there, typically that's the goal of most wrestlers.
It's not, I really want to be good at what I do and find a billionaire
and it's going to pay me lots of money,
even though I won't necessarily mean anything to the business.
Everyone wants to mean something to the business.
If you make it in WWE, it's like making it in New York,
so to speak.
If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
If you make it in AEW, you can make it in Recita.
I mean, it's not the same thing at all.
And I think that's one of the things you see with a thing like this,
because Tony could offer her more money.
And Tony needs wrestlers like that for his women's division
if he's going to do it.
But she wanted to go to WWE.
And if you're going to do what you've got to do it, look at Okada.
That's the opposite.
Ocada is the example of someone that WWE would have wanted,
and he thought this was the better idea.
He's going to get all this money.
What's this going to do to his legacy?
Someone like Stephanie Vakor, it appears she's trying to actually make a legacy.
Well, and the legacy will be legendary, as long as it includes llamas.
or Lydia.
What was her name?
It wasn't Lydia.
Lydia, oh, have you seen Lydia?
That was.
The tattooed lady.
Louvia.
Louvia.
What does that mean?
Hold on.
Let me look it up.
Louvia.
I think I may have a gardener that has showed up, by the way.
Oh, good.
I thought that was my sign.
For once it's you and you're calling it first.
Louvia translates to rain.
So,
she was her name is rain rain rain well she'll be right sooner or later all right but nevertheless i
say was stepney apparently i'm pronouncing it wrong this is the pronunciation ubia
ubia uvia well no that's uvula no the uvia uvia
uvula that's that thing it dangles down in your throat your uvia it went and also they can you can get
diseases. You need to care. It would behoove you to care for your uvula.
I will say some of the names in Alucro Libre, you're always like, what? Some of them you get
like El psychedelico, okay, you know, winners. What? His name is Winners. But we'll see what
happens with... What does that mean in Spanish? Winners? Hold on. Let me put this in. In Spanish,
Winners translates to winners in English. We stole their word.
see if it weren't for the Spanish people and the Spanish-speaking people,
there would be no winners in America.
So take that, you anti-immigrant people.
Well, there it is, and we'll stay on top of this.
But Stephanie Vakor, going to WWE or going to NXT,
and that'll be an interesting thing there.
And I just also, I can't, I'm just going to say this one more time,
I can't believe that there wasn't some type of ongoing contact before two weeks
ago that led to her, not even two weeks ago, now that I'm looking at the calendar, that led to
this announcement.
How does no one have her under contract?
That's the other thing.
And if you were a wrestler and you were about to appear on AEW's pay-per-view and you had no
contract, would you call WWE and say you're about to do that?
Most of them, no, I don't think the WWE would take their fucking calls.
Tony's trying to bring in all these foreign wrestlers to fit his concept,
even though he's already signed up most of the foreign wrestlers that fit the concept.
So at some point he can't sign everyone in the world.
If he keeps doing that, he's going to use more people that end up getting signed elsewhere.
And probably the only reason it hadn't happened so far is because he's so lousy at picking the foreign talent.
Well, on that note, I will say that Tony Kahn has announced that Tomohiro Ishii will be with AEW for the rest of the summer.
Oh, good Lord.
Ishii?
Well, Jim, let's take another fun ride, and I'm assuming that you probably paid closer attention than I did, but we'll find out because I don't remember exactly what I saw.
At WWE Raw this past week, another week from another locale, another packed house.
Where were they?
Well, let me talk to you.
because I'll tell you exactly where they were,
they were in the frenchiest part of Ontario.
As I recall, Ottawa, Ontario,
is farther up toward Montreal than Toronto is,
or the other Ontario towns that people in America may be familiar with.
The Hamilton's and the Burlington's and the Furnhamtons
and all those other tons.
So I remember going there a time or two with the WWF
and they're leaning toward the French area up there.
You get a lot more French people.
But guess who we got on first
after the Money in the Bank recap
on this fine episode of Monday Night Raw
like Mussolini in Ottawa.
Oh, come on.
so I tried to give it a little extra
you know because I want to do
no effort at all no
enunciate there
horrible
but here comes punk
and have you noticed
did you did this pop out at you
of the screen
he's 25 pounds heavier
four shades darker in terms of
the sun tan
and looks 10 years younger
that he did in AEW
it's like as as
as Rodney would say
hot rod it's like a heaviness
has been lifted off of his shoulders.
And you can see why would
this is the
this, I'm loving this
like you said the other day about
punk and Drew
then I'm have to wrestle. This is great shit.
Now we got Seth in it
and Seth's was fucking interesting too
instead of being Seth Franklin
and
and
I can't possibly
encapsulate what they said in the promo.
Basically, Punk came out and congratulated
scene on his retirement.
I'd love to lace them up one more time with you.
And then he said, you know, I'm here,
but Drew McIntyre's not here.
And did you hear what he said?
I talked to Gary and Pizmo in the truck
and they agreed to play this tape.
And he played the VTR of Drew McIntyre.
tire that you referred to on the drive-thru.
I hadn't seen it yet.
No, not on the drive-thru.
On the experience.
We reviewed this show, but I hadn't seen that yet.
But Drew comes out at the money-in-the-bank post-show extravaganza,
and he's pitching a fit, and they're trying to get him to back up,
and he shoved a referee, and he elbows pierce in the fucking face,
and Wade Barrett is in there.
They're shoving and pull it apart.
and let's stop down there for a second.
I love that shit because it looked like actual goddamn adults at a UFC
fucking pull apart instead of all the fake wrestlers that do the fake wrestling stuff
that the modern kids do these days.
Did you notice the little subtle differences?
Oh, I thought it was great.
I don't know if I want to compare it to the UFC anymore.
I don't really watch that.
Well, but I mean, where they're still trying to take it as seriously as
without doing cliche shit.
It was like if some real shit happened on a real postgame show.
Yeah.
That's what it was.
And I thought McIntyre, when he gets met, he's looking right at the camera and he's
steaming, you believe him, and Pierce's reaction.
Because that's an interesting thing.
Here's the authority figure getting hit.
And they got to do something with it.
It wasn't too much.
And it was kind of just right.
And Wade Barrett got involved.
This was incredibly well done.
and you know and that's the thing is that everybody is being serious and adult about this
and I think that's part of the thing that's making it but they go back to punk in the ring and
you know he did the promo there are consequences to your actions and you're looking at him
and he laid the whole thing out and they were both fine but Drew was suspended also and he
was here to ask Jack Tunney or Adam
Pierce or whoever he's got to talk to
please unsuspend
Drew McIntyre
so I can get my hands on him
and it
did you hear the line
I'll beat him up in the cheap seats
there's people on the other side of this camera
I'll beat him up up there
yeah he drops it
and he but it's not a
gotcha line where he's expecting
a pop it's part of the fucking
overall story
and you know so anyways he laid that out perfectly and he has a case he is making sense this is why that
he is doing this to Drew this is his reasonings and it's perfect right he's the baby face
and then here comes Seth Franklin Rollins his music and this time while he's making his
entrance and the fans are singing and oh he oh whoa he's
sits cross-legged on the fucking
announced desk and takes the
color headset and just says we're
going to be here a while
this takes so long the singing
and it's et cetera
and it's
again it's what you would
do right if you were
you know real
and then Seth does
his promo
face to face with punk
and he
has a goddamn reason
right and punk even says hey i got no quarrel with you
i'm trying to apologize they go back and forth it was
tense and prickly
and punk got it out
where he said i'm sorry i apologize i didn't mean to screw anything up for you
but because said that had been pushed him also he also said but
because it's you i can't really be all that sorry
it's fucking great
and Seth was serious and he fucking bows up
and he
he tells him that the world doesn't revolve around you
and he has a goddamn legitimate reason to be pissed
and he lays that out
and that's why this is so
and they're being pricks to each other while they're doing it
but that's why this is so great because even
and they're both baby faces but they're both right
and they've they articulated it
because if they both hadn't have been on here
it could have turned to mush
but anyway
so now Seth is mad at punk
because punk took something from him
so it's his turn to take something away from punk
I love that
and again
the intrigue we kind of just spoke about it the other day
they got everything right in front of them with punk and Drew
Rollins, we said, was right there for after Drew,
but here he is being reintroduced into the mix right now.
That was the original main event for,
or not, I shouldn't say main event.
That was originally one of the big matches for WrestleMania
before Punk got hurt,
Punk and Rollins.
There's been that thing there from the moment punk showed up again
with Rollins yelling at,
Fuck you!
Phil! Fuck you!
That was the most ridiculous thing ever.
Fuck you and your friend, Jim.
and they teased it here.
You would think him and Drew's going to be a multi-match thing.
I hate for things just to become three-way matches for no reason.
I don't know that they're hidden for a three-way here.
I think now they've got Punk and Drew,
but they've also potentially got Drew and Seth and punk and said they've got everybody.
It's not just one is what I'm saying, but go ahead.
I guess that's really it because they don't need the work.
World title. You got Drew away from that finally
because now it's just him and Punk doing their thing.
Rollins still wants it, but you
have to think Goonther is about to have a run with it
because I can't see any other reason
why they would keep it on Priest over a Goonther.
That one's going to be hard for me to swallow
if that happened. Yeah, I just don't see that
possibly happening right now.
And Goethe really hasn't even been around, so they're
building it, just videos building him right now.
But again, back to this,
Punk and Drew
should be a multi-match program.
And you could do gimmick matches and build up to it.
It'll make sense.
And the intensity is just there.
It's great.
And then the question is, when do they execute something with Rollins and against who?
Execute something.
They line it up against the wall.
But then, so this was the big first segment, right?
And, boy, everybody's got their game face on.
And then we get Jay Uso and Gable.
and that was the transition to the spooky part of the program
and I get honestly you know it was
there you go
we love Gable we know what we got with Jay
so the match happened and Gable got an ankle lock
and some of the lights start going out
and then people go ooh
and then some more lights go out
and people go ooh
and then smoke comes into the ring
oh
and by the way the baby face
Jay Uso rolled out and ran away as quickly as he could
the smart man in there once again ran away
how come Gables always cornered by these people
the fans are all there
but Gable's like I have nowhere to go
I'm in a dark alley what will I do
how about just run into the crowd
well
Uso hit the spear by the way
one two three before he ran out of
the arena because when the lights
went out Gable just dropped his advantage
but yeah
he can run and then Gable
is just he's just
he's wandering
even when he wakes up from the spear
and he sees the smoke and he sees
the ugly girl zombie
he rolls out and he's back
he's back running
he's back walking running where he's
running, but he's walking, but he's backing.
It's not even a male zombie.
It's a woman. He's running from a woman zombie.
It's not some big muscular zombie that's going to kick his ass.
Well, no, no, no, because she's got teeth.
She's got a box.
Knock the package out of her hand to kick her.
Hold on now.
I am not advocating for any kind of interspecies sexuality between humans and zombies here.
You let her keep her box.
No, not that box.
The other box.
She's got teeth, and if she's a zombie and she bites him, regardless whether he can beat her up or not,
then he will have his blood infected and become a brain-eating member of the living dead also.
But if it happens at Raw, they'll probably cover the medical expenses.
Well, you know, that's true, and they're doing a lot with stem cell these days.
That's right. You never know what could happen.
Well, anyway, he ran away finally, and she gave another, her boss,
was given to the announcers.
Michael Cole, I knew he was like that in his younger days, but I thought he'd calm down.
The announcers who didn't run away?
No, nobody runs except Gable.
And, you know, I forgot to even look because I was zipping through at this point when she's just going to hand this thing.
I think it was to McAfee this time.
Were the security guards passed out on the desk, or did you even notice at this point?
They've done it so often.
You know, I don't remember if they did it this week.
I'm thinking they should have hammocks.
Hammock, really?
You get the shot of the announcers are still alert and coherent at their desk,
but the security guards that are supposed to guard them are asleep in hammocks.
How about having the announcers in hammocks?
The first broadcast team ever in hammock together.
Well, you might have a hard time selling McAfee on that,
in one of those love swings or something with Michael Cole.
but anyway then we had broncson reed and pete done and bronceton won with a big splash one two
three and then shamus ran out and beat him up because he was abusing his privileges
that was the whole first hour of raw brian we're at the nine o'clock hour the first segment
was really really good and then it was like a e w they went right to the spooky segment
We'll right from the really good right into the garbage can.
Wait a minute.
I thought I had a garbage can say, well, I guess that would be the garbage being emptied into the...
I just want to see one of these baby faces turn around and yell,
Stop playing that goddamn piano!
Would you stop playing that piani?
The monsters are bad enough.
Stop playing the piano!
At least it's an easy beat to keep.
If you've got a pulse, even if you're on so much, you're being...
being...
Obviously, the spooky woman
came out with a box,
presented it to Michael Cole,
we would later find out what was in that box.
It was not a box of awesome.
No.
No, it was not.
I would call this a box of disappointment
what they were given
there on that television program there.
A box of sameness,
a box of regularity,
a box of disappointment.
You expected it, and that's what you got.
same thing you got last time.
That's terrible.
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Let's go back to the spanking known as Monday Night Raw.
Well, Brian, before we do that, I've actually got some breaking news here.
See, you do this.
to me all the time. I've got to do it to you. This has just come across my desk. It's on the emergency
line, the teletype. Did you hear about this? A pastor is facing federal charges after he allegedly
hit his wife in the head during a flight when she got upgraded and he didn't. I have not seen
this story, no. Well, we do. We try to encompass news around the broad spectrum of what the human
is all about, and this kind of epitomizes it. July 2nd, Alaska Airlines flight from Seattle to
Anchorage, Alaska, Roger Allen Holmberg, Sr. and his wife were traveling for an event
related to their ministry. And according to witnesses interviewed by Anchorage Airport Police,
Holmberg asked his wife, how the hell did you get the upgrade? And she responded, I'm a Gold Point
member, don't speak to me like that.
Don't say hell, pastor.
Well, then he allegedly
handed his phone
to his wife from the aisle
while telling her to read it and
gestured with his middle finger.
And then sometime
after handing her his phone,
Holmberg allegedly
attempted to swing
toward his wife and struck the top
of her head.
Jesus.
Another witness told the police that
he went to the first class lavatory
after the incident
and the witnesses
the witness I guess this sounds
like one of the flight people
said if there are any further incidents with you
we will put you in handcuffs
so apparently
Holmberg's wife told
the police
he struck her in the head with the back of his
knuckles
knowing that she had epilepsy
in contact with her head
could cause a seizure
Oh my God.
Come on.
The pastor, she claims, has a history of abusing her.
It had previously broken her finger.
How old are these people?
Well, hold on.
It's set up here now, I think, did it, yeah, he, no?
I guess they don't want to be agist,
so they don't, I'm trying to see ages on these people.
I don't have ages on these people.
But anyway, so his defense for this,
he's telling authorities he's upset that his wife had been upgraded to first class
because he wanted her to travel with him and sit next to him
but he was not a violent person did not intend to hurt his wife
he tapped her on the head in passing to get her attention
which is you know something that we all do you know hey whack
come here a second hey epileptic wife i'm talking to you
boom i'm talking to you and he added that he and his wife had been going to marriage
counseling. And apparently because his wife was disrespectful to him often and had anger issues.
Of course. Oh, he told authorities of a previous incident where she allegedly grabbed his leg
while he was driving and broke her finger.
It's a turn at the end there. I didn't expect that. Okay.
See a sudden reversal. So, uh...
Wait, how does that happen? She grabbed his leg and broke her finger in the process.
Apparently, so while he was driving, could possibly off a cliff, I'm not sure.
But anyway, I love, love, love, love.
The love is in the air.
I love the way that they've been going to marriage counseling to examine these issues
about wrapping his epileptic wife on the head.
and apparently he was arrested upon landing and transported to the Anchorage Correctional Center.
Anchorage.
Alaska.
Yeah, wow.
Yeah.
And that's what they said.
I'll ask,
what do you do to you, ma'am?
He has since been released, but cannot come within 100 yards of his wife.
And now, sometime he said he couldn't come when he was right next to his wife.
In his statement, oh, he also banned from.
Alaska Airlines.
There you go.
So there you go.
But just in case you're going to this fellow's church
or ministry or whatever kind of
fucking three-card Monty deal
they got going on.
Roger Allen Holmberg, senior.
Senior.
And his wife.
So if there's a junior, he's at least,
you know, this is a middle-aged man,
I would think at best.
If you have a kid at 20,
By the time you're 40
Well, but do you become senior
When the kids like fucking six
Nobody knows the kids around
Or is it like his, you know, senior
Usually there's older people
I thought senior was just if the person has the same name
Well, yes, but I mean, would you be being identified
In court fucking documents
As something senior if your kids like fucking four
And you're a 28 year old dipshit
Well, otherwise there's some sort of age classification
and when you're allowed to be a senior
when you're allowed. I'm not saying when you're allowed.
I'm just saying when you recognize that any of these
fucking little rug rats and crumb snatchers even are around.
Vince would have used that. Vince would have totally used that.
No, no. After the age of 44, you can't be a junior.
You know, you can't call it junior.
I think until junior gets some kind of criminal record,
they ought to just make his fucking dad
for the point of the goddamn
scrutiny here.
How's that counseling going, huh?
So, pastor, tell us again about what you call tapping your wife on the head.
Tell us about this.
The counseling worked wonders because now he's just wrapping her on the head instead of breaking
bones.
On a plane in front of people.
Yeah, apparently over the top of people.
Really?
How tall was this man?
He's in fucking, she's in first class.
He's up there going, hey, how did you get this fucking seat, bitch?
So, and again...
handed his phone
to his wife from the aisle.
Was she on the window?
Was he wrapping her,
this epileptic on the head
over some businessman from Boise, Idaho?
I'm sure the pastor has lots of good advice for people
who need some advice for their life.
His first three words next Sunday,
your guy have sinned.
Yeah, that's the thing.
That's the problem right there.
We can predict what the next step is for him.
The big apology.
The two step.
The two step.
That's the next step for him, yes.
God forgives those who forgive me.
Anyway, speaking of forgiveness, should we go back to the raw?
Might as well.
I feel like that's what Gary Hart would call it.
I'm on the raw.
Would you like some con, brother?
All right, it was nine o'clock on the eastern part of the country.
Eastern Time Zone, and there was Sammy Zane
coming to the ring to do a promo.
And I'm praising people.
Boy, I feel positive.
Very positive, as she could say today.
But I've got to praise people again.
Sammy Zane is not only a good
underdog baby face in his matches,
he is a good underdog baby face in his promos.
he gets it.
He understands how to be him.
And that's more difficult and not as prevalent as one would assume so, looking from the outside
end.
You know, or he could have been a mute luchador, but I prefer this.
And he did the promo about Bronbreaker and how he persevered at money in the bank.
And, you know, it never count him down, blah, blah, blah.
very good right and and again sounds genuine he's not out there droning the prepared remarks right
and then brawn's music plays and he comes out and they're face to face and he won't say
anything he's just stare at a hole in sammy zay he just staring him down brian lest is what
he is staring him down like he's going to the chair and finally
You know, Sammy's like, are you going to say anything or would you come out here saying anything to me
or what?
He hands him, didn't hand it to him, he kind of gives him the microphone.
And Braun.
He got it out in Steiner fashion.
He tried to say something to the effect of, I came out here to look the only man in a locker room who's beating me in the eye.
And it took him around, he went around his elbow to get to his wrist, but it sounds natural coming
from him because he's a Steiner.
And, you know, he's very philosophical.
He's about, hey, you know, I could say I want to rematch whatever,
but there's no reason for me to get a rematch.
He's kind of wandering around the ring.
So I've been thinking, and he just drops the microphone and turns around and
fires the retro rockets, however the fuck he does this,
and spears the fuck out of Sammy Zane.
And boom, and he gets all.
him and here come the agents and the referees and they can't hardly pull him off and they're trying and finally
he starts to leave and he does the around the ring spear and i know it's so cool and that this is
one of the things that i'm willing to let go they never use that camera angle for anything other than
that move so why do they they they got a camera of potentially a cameraman up there for
that could they cut to it every once in a while, but I don't care because it looks so cool.
But have you noticed that?
I hadn't thought of it before, but you're right.
So it's kind of like, you know, that some element of this may have been predetermined.
Anyway.
So boom, and he does the around the ring spear, and now out comes Elyah.
Ilya, oh, Elya, oh, have you seen Elya?
he sells his ass off
and he's pissed off
because he and Braun got their thing going on
right and they're going to have a match later tonight
so
is the more on that later type of deal
but your thoughts so far on
Braun continuing to fucking look great
and then getting a star push down
correctly for once
well again he lost the match at the pay-per-view
and then afterwards you didn't see it, but Sammy did a promo putting him over.
Just about how he underestimated Braun, even though Braun lost.
He was talking about him almost like he won.
And then this thing here, I love the moment where he dropped the mic and just tackled him.
No one does that.
No one does that.
That's what you do.
And the shot around Riggs side again, now that I think of it because you said it, you're right.
But I hadn't thought of the fact that they never use this camera angle unless.
Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying don't do it, but I'm saying, figure another purpose for it,
so it's not just that, right?
But anyway, little things, little things.
Yeah, because it is, by the way, a cool angle.
I like the idea of seeing wrestling from different camera angles that are reasonable,
that we haven't seen wrestling from for the last, you know, 30 years.
So I'm open to it.
Plus, they can shoot all the whole building because there's people in all the chairs.
Yeah.
but beyond that I really like it really good
well and in that and we should say that then they took an intermission
the intermission was finn jd and carlito against miss and truth and brown strong man
and then you know they gave us a little bit more on the punk and pierce
situation when basically pierce said i'm going to call drew
and see if i can set up a meeting about this and you need to stay home next week
Heal up, let me deal with Drew McIntyre, got punk to agree to that.
But of course, we don't know.
He could be home next week, and that gives Drew the opportunity to do something without, you know, them having to do something again, or he could be there to do something again.
And that's a good part.
We don't know now, but either is okay because the other guy's going to do.
Maybe next week Drew does shit with fucking Seth.
Right?
So they can have this non-monogamous relationship, is what I'm saying.
Instead of just the same thing every week.
Speaking of non-monogamous relationships,
did you see the Judgment Day catching Liv,
humping Dominic's leg?
I did see this.
I know you don't like her,
but I think Liv Morgan's been really good in this role,
and it's made me watch these segments.
She's been great.
But Tim, we're going to have to watch her wrestling.
real Ripley. I'm okay
with that. It's Rea Ripley. It'll be great.
She looks like Rea Ripley ought to be able to pop her like
a pimple. You're right. She's going to have to wrestle a smart match.
Well, and see what you're asking?
Well, I think... Never the left. I think she will. I think she'll play head games
with someone, get them to want some of that ass. And then all of a sudden...
Oh, now, now, do you have to just be crass and bring the whole show into the gutter?
Come on, that's what it is.
The whole, that's the whole angle right here.
You had head and ass in the same fucking...
I wasn't even thinking about the head.
Well, listen.
You got me off track now.
What are we talking about?
You want to order a hamburger?
No, listen.
All right, shut up now.
Just, just don't beat.
Now, you just, you watch out there, fella.
Watch out for what?
Well, I'll tell you, because Damien Priest in that segment
knew something that Dominic did not know.
and we didn't find out what it was at that point,
but Dom left after saying he's putting it into it
it and Carlito making remarks about the
the rigidity of his phallic organ and things and such.
It's just, it's an 80s team movie.
It's an 80s team movie.
Just those guys reaction in the doorway.
Carlito with his big hair.
Oh, then the two heads coming around the side of the, you know,
yes, but that's why I'm saying,
everybody belongs except.
priest if we're supposed to think he's a world champion.
He's too fucking mild mannered to be.
Drew got some goddamn edge to him and win.
Everybody's loving him now.
And Priest is refereeing the goddamn Cats and Jammer kids.
For all you fucking non-agenarians out there.
Or for those of you didn't get that version, the captain and his kids.
But with Ria Ripley back, do you use that as something to,
reunite them together? Obviously he knew something because those are the two leaders of
judgment day, or do you start the dissolving of all this, or at least to get him away from
the whole thing? Well, it appears that at some point, priest is or maybe already being considered
a baby face in some circles, and Ria definitely is, so that's why they're in contact,
I don't fucking know. I'm just,
saying the silliness everybody likes a good hard on joke and yeah da-da but with priest in with these
these more trivial pursuits you know that's that's what i'm saying speaking of trivial pursuits
anyway is there anything more to say about the beau dallas vhs interview did it sounds great what
Does it mean what's going to happen as a result of it?
And is this going to, is anything going to happen?
You know as much as I do, and you like this as much as I do.
And every time, every time, multiple times with Ray Wyatt and now,
we would hear from certain fans who would say, just give it time.
I know you don't see it going anywhere yet, but just give it time.
He's saying these really intense things that make it all make sense,
and then nothing happens.
Um, there's been one zombie on TV.
Where are the other four or three, whatever it was?
Where'd they go?
That's an easy work schedule, isn't it?
Yeah.
I hate, I hate this stuff.
I hate it.
I hate it.
I hate it.
What is it going to lead to?
Is it leading to a bowl?
A bowl.
Is it leading to, I wish it led to a bowl right now.
I could use a bowl right outside.
Is it leading to a bow Dallas run, like a push?
again with like spooky or if the gimmick is that they're not spooky they're pretending to be and he's
gonna take it all away then what the hell has been going on on this show it's just awful
I hate it tremendously well you do me a favor will you make me a promise just hold your
right hand up and your left hand red right foot green whatever promise me scouts honor were you
ever a scout I was
a Cub Scout, but I gave up after like one year. Do they have any honor? Are you too young to lie then,
or do they have to take an oath? I can't speak for the rest of my den, but I think I was a pretty
honorable scout, yes. Well, and okay, then promise me Scouts honor, as soon as they make any of this
clear, you will be here on the program to explain it to me. What the hell is that? Do you mean, I have to
watch it, but you don't? No, I mean, it, what?
I'm watching it or not, I don't understand it.
And I'm not going to understand it when they make it all clear.
So when they make it all clear, then I want you to explain it to me.
So I have to understand it to explain it to you so you understand it.
Yes.
How is that going to happen?
Once they make it all clear.
They're never going to make it all clear.
Well, people say they're going to make it all clear.
So here's what we'll make it all clear.
Let me know when the coast is clear.
Here's what we'll make it all clear.
Stick on that wide shot.
They use for when Bronbreaker runs around the ring
so we could spot zombies in the crowd.
There's another usage of that camera.
You know, Arthur, are they going for the zombie
demographic to the point where if they get like
12% of the crowd is zombies, they'll put brains on the
concession stand menu?
I don't know, but again, it goes to the whole idea
if Bo Dallas is, you know, this great talker,
and I'm not saying he isn't or anything, I just don't care enough to
pay attention to this stuff.
No, I mean, I mean, this would be complete dress.
in an entirely different way
if it was anybody else doing it.
He's doing a good job of doing
whatever the fuck it is he's doing.
But is this, my question, I guess,
is this as effective as him just standing in the ring
with a microphone right now
because he would have the audience
through a number of circumstances
and telling this story in the ring?
Again, I know it's all about this visual end of it
and they have this vision
and it's all these things
and that's what started under Bray Wyatt.
But that's the thing that drives it away
from being wrestling.
And again, it was right after the CM Punk
segment, a wrestling segment
followed by Friday to 13th.
And then back to wrestling.
If it's...
Why is Chad Gable the only person
on the show like who has a problem with this?
Well, he apparently, he's like
the old deal with the cat
with the witch. He's the familiar.
Isn't that is it the familiar
where he's the conduit between
you and the spirit world? Well, every
time Gable's around, he opens
up the goddamn atmospheric continuum
them to where these creepy crawlies can fucking creep in,
crap and creep out.
Like, is this another part of the WWE Scooby-Doo crossover?
Can we get the mystery?
You know, there is a son of a bitch in the subdivision down the road for me
that has a mystery machine.
Really?
Over on the other side of the, it's at a goddamn,
not even the sub, past the subdivision,
but it wouldn't make any sense to you anyway,
but it's outside a goddamn paint and body and car apparatus.
This description is a mystery.
They work with cars and work on cars
and deal with various automotive means of transport,
and there's a mystery machine.
Or at least it has been, I haven't seen it lately,
but I haven't been by there.
You want me to go by there and check?
I can be right back.
Hey, you know, speaking of cartoons,
want to hear something sad.
I mean, not sad, but just,
a pain of the ass.
I've gotten my son, who's about to turn three,
in the underdog, who's airing on Me TV tunes.
The problem is, underdog's on for, like, the first two minutes,
and then it's nonstop everything else,
and then finally back to underdog at the end.
Not enough underdog.
Oh, is that the end of the story?
That's the end of the story.
I was trying to end of the second.
I thought you were going to say so to make sure there was more underdog.
I purchased a DVD collection of nothing but underdog
to feed my child's hunger for the underdog.
There's no Blu-ray.
If there was a Blu-ray, I'd purchase a Blu-ray.
I have the DVD set, I think, from years ago at Sony,
because we were the distributors.
Well, then just to break down and play a DVD.
I want a Blu-R, whatever.
Oh, you, format snob you.
Oh, listen to who's talking, Mr. V-A-Beta is best.
Well, it was.
But anyway, you want your son to have the entertainment, because you know what they say.
When criminals in this world appear and break the laws that they should fear and frighten those who see
and hear the cry goes out from far and near for underdog, underdog.
Speed of lightning, roar of thunder, frightening all who rob or plunder.
Underdog.
Ah, underdog.
He loves that.
The problem is trying to get him to sit through.
I think I finally got him at least a little bit interested in Tennessee Tuxedo.
But that's the problem.
It goes from underdog song right to Tennessee Tuxedo or King Leonardo.
Chumley is a very lovable character.
A Tennessee Tuxedo is lovable looking and it's, you know, it's, hey, stay here.
It's just, get smart.
What's his name?
Don Adams.
Don Adams.
Yeah.
Missed it by that much.
That's Tennessee Tuxedo.
Is that a good voice for a kid's cartoon?
soon? Well, it just depends.
Now, say, Chamaie.
Why are we talking about this?
I don't know. Would you like to hear the second verse of Underdog?
Yeah, do you know it?
When in this world the headlines read of those whose hearts are filled with greed and
something, something, oh my shit, I write this wrong with lightning speed comes Underdog.
Oh, my shit. I don't think that was part of the song.
That third line escaped me. But anyway, speaking of...
That part where Underdog took a shit mid-flight.
Yeah, mid-flight, I'll tell you what, that's why they had to do something about underdog
because the, and see, the thing is, then the pastor hit him on the head.
When super, well, when super people shit, it's invulnerable shit also, right?
So falling from a height like that, Superman had issues with that too.
It would, boom, it smite a motherfucker.
You think a superhero with superpowers that their excrement would have powers to or just have
what exactly are you saying?
No, I'm not saying it'd have a.
power, probably really strong stink.
Maybe that would be it, but it would be invulnerable.
Because if they're bullet impervious, that means their shit would be invulnerable too, right?
I don't know.
It would be harder than Chinese arithmetic.
That's an automatic thing.
Is their urine invulnerable as well?
I bet you if you got a golden shower from fucking Superman had put your eye out.
Does Superman go to the bathroom?
Well, one would assume that the...
Some krypton.
But yes, but the evacuation process for someone who's obviously, if not mortal, at least mortal shaped.
And Lois kept coming back for something, so we know there's something in there.
And what else would you do with it besides fucking piss?
So you're thinking like a human, though.
He's not a human.
He's from Krypton.
And plus, you've seen Superman eat in the various comic books.
and...
Well, yeah, okay, that's true.
Well, it'd be the same fucking thing.
And, and, you know, so therefore it's got to go somewhere.
What does Batman do if mid-crime he has to go to the bathroom?
Oh, he just has Robin fill in for him, doesn't he?
Until he...
Batman could pretty much...
He could go right there also, though, because he's wearing dark colors.
Do you think Batman needs Robin, or can Batman exist without Robin for you?
No, I think Batman needs Robin.
Robin just as, you know, to have the weakness, like the baby face manager.
And that way they can get heat on the baby face manager and Batman can come to the rescue.
What do you think of Jack Kirby stuff at DC?
It wasn't the same for me.
And the new gods thing, I still have like probably 16 copies of New Gods number one because
it was supposed to be this fucking giant goddamn success.
It wasn't the same to you in terms of the characters.
created or?
Yeah, he was, he was, it was like an NWA guy going to the WWF and it just didn't seem
like it fit for me.
You know, it was, the Marvel universe was Kirby.
Kirby and Ditko and Bears, oh my.
Who do you think deserves the credit for Spider-Man?
Ditko or Stan Lee?
Well, now we've gone over that.
Stan may have been a little bit of a braggart.
We've, there's been a little.
lots of contradicting testimony.
I don't want to slander a legend
who's recently gone on to his great reward
after being apparently manipulated
by his close family for years.
So let's just say that
a lot of the people that
also created stuff
there, Stan didn't have a lot to do with it.
Who do you think had more women?
Stan Lee or Stan Lane?
That's not a contest.
You don't know that.
Stan Lee may have been a real Coxville.
on the Upper West side.
Oh, for heaven's sake.
Are you out of your mind?
And Stan Lane will live to be 98
or whatever Stan Lee was.
So, well, I guess he's done now.
He's married.
So I don't want anything like that to get around.
But still, I think his total probably approaches
Will Chamberlains.
In the 80s, because of your background, like as a kid
who liked comics and collected comics,
but you really weren't in the same place in the 80s
as things were happening.
But did you ever check out anything happening in independent comics?
Like when Eastman and Laird created Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles before they became like commercialized and everything.
Had you heard about it or anything?
No.
I'm like, what?
They're turtles and they do what?
Kung Fu?
Um, once that I got, and people talk about the wrestling bubble now.
The only reason you're in a wrestling bubble now, except if you, unless you work for the WWE or,
or attempt to do your job for AEW, probably.
The bubble back then was every day of your life from,
anywhere from 9 o'clock in the morning till noon,
you're at a car or a plane until fucking midnight that night,
six and seven days a week.
You know, I was reading people time and newsweek,
just something I could stick my head in in the car
and the plane to keep up with general things in the world,
but I didn't have time to,
I didn't see any 80s television, prime time.
Something that I never missed
until I got on the road with wrestling,
and then for like 10 fucking years,
I didn't know what the fuck was going on between 8 and 11.
You're big on Seinfeld now,
but did you watch it actually when it originally aired?
No.
And as a matter of fact,
I remember specifically when I actually
We took that time off from WCW in
What was it, April and May of 1989
That's when I discovered cops
Because that's the Fox Network had just debuted
And that was the first season
I went told the boys next time we went somewhere
I said, yeah, they've actually got the camcorder there
And the cops are beating a shit out of these people
And they're blah blah blah
because that was very new for television at the time.
Everything on Fox, that America's Most Wanted,
was in the early run of Fox shows,
Married with Children.
Married with children.
Christina Applegate.
Well, you're like the exact pervert.
They make fun of on the show with Christina Applegate.
Exactly.
You know, so that, there you go.
And, but, but, but yes, so that was like,
oh, shit, I'm watching television at night.
on a weekday for the first time in seven years.
What about the Simpsons?
Probably about the same time.
I had that year transition between WCW and Smoky Mountain,
and then I'm fucking crazy again for five years.
And yes, I know people are,
so, well, the VCR with the VCR was recording fucking wrestling.
And so point being, that was, where I was going with this,
was that was the wrestling bubble.
Now I can understand the production departments being overworked in these companies and or the various office personnel.
But if the wrestlers think this is fucking overworked when, you know, they're two days a week, they might work TV or whatever, and then they're, you know, that liberty to pursue a life of religious freedom, you know, that ain't a fucking bubble.
You literally had no time to live.
So that was the bubble.
Would you like to bubble back to Braun Breaker?
Yeah, I was going to say, we just did to the review of the Uncle Howdy segment
exactly what they do to the wrestling show.
Well, there you go.
Took in a completely different direction that meant nothing and was not resolved.
And now back to our regular programming.
Elia Dragonov against Braun Breaker.
And as I started watching this match, I realized another reason why it's a pleasure watching Braun Breaker perform is because the next time he has a match, and of course it would probably fuck up in the first minute, but just try.
Imagine he's working on a Crockett show in the 80s with the television set up or world-class wrestling in the 80s.
you know, every move he does,
it's a modern match,
but it would have been good in the 80s,
not out of place in either era,
because it just seems natural to shit that he would do.
It's not just stuff that would have happened back then,
and it's not a lot of Gaga that doesn't need to happen now.
He's unique, and that this shit would have worked anytime,
because it's his shit.
It's reminiscent of both Steiner's.
But it, you know,
do you see what is, am I making the point I'm trying to make?
I think so.
I think you've made it a few times.
Well, thank you.
Then I'm repeating myself is what you're saying.
Elia does a lot of stuff that has been popularized in the modern era of wrestling
over the last several years,
but bronze shit would work anywhere at any time.
and it still, it doesn't
date itself.
Just every once while I get together as friends.
The one thing I wish Elya wouldn't spin so much
when he's doing the swinging, turning, kicking,
fuck, it makes me dizzy.
But I really didn't make notes on this match
because I just enjoyed watching it.
Elya, again, underdog,
sells like crazy, he's got the over-the-top facials,
he's a nut.
We love him for it.
He's this generation's Ruff House Fargo.
That's what he is.
And finally, they're down on the floor,
and Bron Brigger just picks a fucking giant
announced desk chair up and fucking flings it at him.
Boom, DQ.
And then gets back on him and he's getting heat on him,
but here comes Sammy with the agents and the referee
is trying to hold him back.
And Sammy makes a comeback and clotheslines him over the top.
But he pulls Sammy out and throws him into post and chucks him over the desk and Elias back up and gets on Braun and Braun throws him over the fucking desk.
And everybody's trying to call me.
This is great.
Is this a record for number of weeks in a row that a guy has been in an actual goddamn wrestling angle on this television program and I don't know how long?
You know, I don't want to say that because I think it's been a lot of guys since Triple H took over.
They have multi-week angles, even if it's not the big one that everything is going to be focused on.
Everything is laid out logically in terms of timeline.
But it's also, it's just wrestling angles.
It's just simple stuff that you can understand that has been done before in many times, many ways,
but you put different people
and a different twist on something
in a different place and it becomes new.
That's what I'm saying.
These work has wrestling angles.
You'd have seen these anywhere
and this is the way you get a fucking heel over.
And this is the way you get heat on an issue between, again,
three people.
Because Sammy is higher on the food chain
or on the pecker order
than nearly is.
Ilya's new,
but he's kind of the,
I can see them having an alliance
where Sammy's the wizened old underdog
and Ilya is the eager young underdog.
And they're both perfect for Braun to beat up
because he looks big.
If he was beating up Bronson Reed, it would, no.
So very good, very good.
Hold on here one second.
I'm...
There we go.
And we just saw,
them a few weeks ago, so.
Sounds like a future farmer association speech.
But anyway, so that's what's going on there.
And then the rest of the program,
there was a long girl's six-man tag team match.
Did you see any of that?
I don't remember a second of it, so I don't think so.
There was 16 different women in the match?
No, I said a girls' six-man tag team match.
Oh, oh.
Well, it's not six-man tag, if it's women.
Well, yeah, I mentioned they were in it.
Yeah, I didn't see it.
Yeah, well, they're good.
So anyway, then the main event...
Oh, no.
I'm hoping they come get me.
Come get me, zombies, please.
Well, they're not going to do that.
They feed on brains.
Hey.
Anyway, the main event of this particular program was Dominic Mastidio
and his mixed tag team partner
Liv Morgan against Ray Mastidio
and his mixed tag team partner Zalina Vega.
And they had a nice match,
and it's a long three-hour program,
and finally,
basically Liv's treachery
led to Ray Mysterio being crouched on the top rope
and splashed by Dominic 1,
1, 2, 3,
son defeats the father
and they're
overcome by emotion or live
and Dom and so they hug and then
Dom realizes oh my God
what have I done and Liv pulls him
down on top of him
and they are about to do
the Humpty Hump
and suddenly
Ripley's music plays
that's who Damian
Priest knew the thing
that who knew the who voodoo
that is the person
that priest talked to on the phone
and the thing that Damian priest knew
that Dominic didn't know
was that Ria Ripley
is in the building
and waited to list very second
apparently
to come out and storm out
and stalk out
and live, ran away
out through the crowd
up into the arena
and Ria Ripley
starts to get in the ring
and there's Dominic
and my DVR froze.
And am I told that other people
had the same thing where they could have had a little bit more time
at the end of this broadcast?
Or did I, was I out early?
Oh, I don't know.
I haven't heard anyone else.
What did you see?
I just remember them kind of squaring up
or squaring up facing off.
Whatever the relationship is, they were there.
Well, it was on the socials, the social people.
people's media
said, well, they ought to manage their time better for once
the WW instead of AEW because
it cut off early because apparently
Dominic was trying to follow.
Rio walked out on him and he's trying to follow her and apologize.
Oh, see, I heard the other one.
I heard Dominic surprised everyone by grabbing the mic
and saying, what's this shit I hear about? You getting married?
And then she left because she was embarrassed and he was
he wanted to yell at her some more.
That was in the back in front of the boys.
is what, because they all bought it too.
But there was wrong.
So who's she going to be mad at?
Dominic or Liv?
Liv, lives obviously manipulating it.
On camera manipulating the whole situation.
And, you know, what man can fight that?
Dominic can't.
Well, oh, come on now.
I mean, Sarah, you mean to tell me
that if you were beholden and betrothed to
and promised to
and going steady with
and regular
pals with
Ria Ripley
that if you had the opportunity
to mess around
with Liv Morgan
that you would succumb
to your baser instincts, sir?
If I was a wrestler?
Oh, absolutely.
You can never trust a wrestler
around another woman
when their woman's not around them.
Absolutely.
That's lesson one.
You can never trust a woman
or never trust a wrestler
when a woman's not around
and they're around a woman
is what she just.
When their woman,
when their woman
is not around but they're around another woman.
That's right.
That's it.
Game on.
Well, it depends on how many curves they've got.
But anyway, the point is, I think that certainly,
Ria Ripley is not only going to be mad at Liv Morgan,
but also she is going to be highly upset at Dominic Mysterio
leading to the team of Dominic and Liv Morgan
in a handicap match with Ria Ripley,
which is the only way I'll buy that either one of them can whipper.
Well, the other thing, I guess, is they've teased stuff in the past with the rest of Judgment Day and live.
So we'll see, you know, what happens with Judgment Day as we go forward here.
But that was Raw.
Rio Ripley is back.
And I guess the end of the dry-humping on Raw.
Well, there could be more humping.
We just don't know which one's going to hump who.
So we got to stay tuned for that also.
Yes.
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Jim, from there
Oh boy, that sounds like that.
Oh, boy.
I got to get off this spooky shit.
Jim, let's get through dynamite
because we have other things we need to do.
We need to do.
Yes.
A.E.W. Dynamite last night
from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
A big house. I think they had around
5,000 people there, maybe slightly above that.
Well, it's Stampede Week, you know.
There's a lot of bulls, I would assume.
Well, wrestling is traditional.
Stampede Week, the Owen Hart tournament.
I'm sure they got a bunch of local publicity.
So they actually, they accomplished their mission for once.
They got some people in the building.
You ever seen any of those pictures of like the old Stampede parades from like the 70s?
It would be like a couple of the heart kids and Andre the Giant.
Yeah.
Oh, God, yeah.
And there's one year, I think they tried to have the ring and it broke down halfway through or whatever.
the ring on a trailer and the fucking
axle broke or something.
But that way, it's
the biggest thing in Calgary.
I didn't, I never understood
stampede wrestling as more than a
you know, oh my gosh,
like they're stampeding until
you know, I've gotten
a business and got some element of
understanding of Calgary, Canada
and that they, it's like an old west
flavor in Canada
that we would think of
from New Mexico or
Texas or the
Wild West or whatever. Of course, this was
in the 19-fucking 40s. They were still
in the... You know, they actually all
carried six shooters and had
gun fights on Main Street
until about... In 1947,
that was outlawed by the Prime Minister.
That's the thing about Stu Hart's accent that always gets me.
You can never figure out what exactly it is.
No, it's a family accent.
It's not a
Canadian or a regional.
It's a family accent.
There's elements of the Canadian, you know, A and all that type of thing,
but the whole Stu Hart family is, it's a Stu, it's a heart family accent.
Well, this show, despite Dr. Helen, Dr. Helen, Dr. Martha Hart's.
God damn it. Dr. Martha Hart's appearance, this did not have a heart family accent, this show.
Well, there were, there were some accents on it.
And I'll tell you what, I know I'm being charitable on this program.
I don't know why.
But I'm going to talk about something else that I liked that came to the top of the program
before the whole thing went to shit again.
It seems to be a thread amongst both companies.
It's just that the WWE has so much farther to fall before they get to the DREC level.
But they did a cold open for once instead of just,
here we are in the arena and here's somebody coming down the aisle,
because we're afraid you're going to switch out.
They had a package that told the story, MJF's promo,
MJF's actions with Garcia and Osprey,
with his own words as the voiceover,
it edited, obviously, from the longer full length of the interview that he did.
But he articulated this thing perfectly,
and the video backed it up and it gave it even more impact
and you see God for once,
it's like they meant to fucking do this.
And it may make more sense as an angle,
as a wrestling angle,
to try to draw money and get some interest
than anything they've,
if not ever done, done in a long time.
And then the announcers were sock-faced,
Tony Chivani and Nigel McGinnis,
because the story is that Jericho had
the EVPs banned TAS because he was rude to whatever the fucking thing was.
I hope Taz is okay and just took a fucking week off rather than have to go up there
and put up with this shit any further.
But why are they making Nigel be just a complete heel to the point where he's not
credible at all because he's just taken the contrary viewpoint no matter what the
fuck is said?
And the sun will come up tomorrow.
Well, not if I have anything to do with it.
Not if I get off this yacht yelling here.
See, I like the happy Robin Leach, Nigel, more than the,
I'm a heel, so I have to be a heel all the time, Nigel.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know why he's doing this,
because it's not like Taz does it.
He wasn't replaced anyway.
But here's where I'm going to be nice, because out came the high,
priced acquisition
Will Osprey
for an in-ring promo
after what happened last week
after the things MJF said
blah blah blah
can he
I'm thinking can he hold
his end up
in a verbal conflict
with MJF
and to be honest
I like what he did because he didn't
come out there and try to be
cute and blah blah
blah, blah, he sat on the top turnbuckle
and he talked to
him fairly normally, not over the top.
But
he had a couple good lines.
There was no direction to it.
Well, that's the thing is it
meandered, but
I liked his tone.
But at first he said,
MJF, you want to blame the people
and this or that, well, you've got ADD.
I got ADHD. And it doesn't give
an excuse to be a little prick.
And by the way,
what are all these fucking illnesses?
There's a great line, but what are all these fucking illnesses?
I don't fucking know what all these fucking illnesses are anymore.
But the thing is,
it was like he was workshopping it.
I agree that he went to a couple places twice,
and he didn't really build his like,
MJF doesn't like me because he gave three reasons.
and the last one was probably the flattest one of the bunch.
But he's trying.
And it's just the accent.
I know it's some people find it endearing, but is it hard to,
is it hard for an American ear to get what he's cooking?
I was having that same thought because I like this intensity.
a few times he had a really good line
and then he kept going
or he didn't tie it together well
it was all over the place
while the crowd sat there and listened
and sometimes popped
there's something there
but I think he needs to be produced
and I don't know who's going to do it there
who's going to teach him how to do a promo there
and he's never had to do promos like he has to do now
on American TV
if I was him
I'd ask the guy he's working with
MJF, I'll teach you an extra flip if you'll fucking work with me on my timing.
I think it was good, but he needs to learn, you know, actually how to go out there and start
here and end up here and make it work in the middle.
I don't think he has that yet.
But I must say, being a nice and fair individual, there's more there than I had been
a feared of if he, you know, if he can just try to start being more legitimate and not
cute like the kids try to be cute over there these days.
And then they did the deal and I don't understand this.
He cut to promo on MJF obviously.
It then calls him out and the music plays and there's no MJF.
And then, but at the same time Nigel told old sock face when, you know, he's, I guess
he's not coming out.
Well, stop playing this game.
You know MJF's not here tonight.
So just make the guy.
goddamn lead announcer
to look like a fucking complete
which he is but a complete
liar and a shill and a worker
why are they
why is anybody believing it at this
point
they always come on out
here play music and a guy doesn't come
and the announcers would know
one would think the guy's been in the building
but having said that
he appears on the screen
and
I don't know
if this was still the
era of the after mags
Brian would the headline
be is MJF
the De Niro of wrestling
I can see Bill
doing that, ain't you?
Yeah, De Niro, Jerry Lewis
Hey, come on
Well, because it's Bill, it's Bill.
Well, I didn't say he had to imitate him
I'm just talking about writing the headline.
No, he just, he has so
much inflection. He gets so much
cross in the short period of time.
And
you know,
if he couldn't,
if he couldn't
be there
in person,
then this is probably the best
thing that he could have done
is just to follow up
last week on
the screen, so we get to hear from him.
Now
here's the goddamn deal I don't understand.
is that he challenges Will for an international title match next week on television
and Osprey accepts.
So is this, have they false booked this to do an angle
that will lead to, one would assume, Wembley Stadium or some venue or show,
then it would be worth it to give that away,
or are they just going to put it on fucking television?
that doesn't make any sense.
So the promo, let's talk about that for a second,
but the promo, you've registered
your opinion on Will's effort,
but I think MJF, if he wasn't going to be there live
and they can't be at each other's throats every way,
again, C Punk and McIntyre.
They can't do it every fucking week.
MGF's was about as good as it could be.
Yeah, and right now it's,
as noisy as it could be.
The timing's perfect.
I'll talk through it.
I hear your pit sounds like a bunch of Sherpas bringing you up the
mountain.
No, the MJF promo was good.
Obviously he wasn't there and I guess there are some limitations with when they
could film him and what they did, but personally it was a little too
stagey, the setup in the background.
I would like to see him like that just like in a lounge or something.
Something to look real.
Not like...
Oh, you're saying he's got a drinking problem.
He's always hanging out at the bar or the lounge or something like that.
I'm saying they had the nice red lighting in the background,
like every other lit segment in the backstage area on AEW.
It should have looked a little different.
He wasn't there.
Most of the talent, I will agree in AEW.
Most of the talent is lit.
All right, I tried, ladies and gentlemen.
Even with gardeners behind me, I tried.
But of course, Jim Cornett just doesn't want this to be a good show today.
Why did it change its tone like that?
Hold on.
Don't make me change my tone,
um,
Pismo.
Your other question,
you know,
the Hogan Goldberg question,
I guess,
is a way to look at it.
Giving this away for free on TV.
Is next week,
the show they give it away on,
is that Nashville?
No,
blood and guts is the,
24th, correct?
Okay, so it's not even that show.
You're giving it away on TV,
and then,
On this show, someone won a title match for Osprey's title, correct?
Well, yeah, no, somebody won a title match for Swerve's title.
The winner of the Owen gets the main event at Wembley,
and then later on they clarified for the AEW World title,
and then they clarified to against Swerve Strickland.
What did Pac-Wan?
Pac-won an international title match.
That's right.
Is he the international champion or the Continental Champion?
Who?
Osprey.
No, he's the international champion.
Oh, so Pac-1-0 title match with him?
Was it at Wembley or anywhere?
Who's the Continental champion?
Ok, okay. Well, then who's the Ring of Honor world champion?
Mark Briscoe.
But they just unified that whole thing with the winner of the champion carnival.
That was the Ring of Honor strong championship.
and another couple of championships.
That was Kingston.
That was Kingston.
That became the Continental Championship,
but then the other outside of AEW Championships
just decided they would keep their titles and do their own thing.
And there'll be another tournament next year.
But again, we're talking about Wembley and what they're setting up
and that they're giving this away on TV in a week.
What do you think of that?
This is, you know, if you think about AEW matches
that can make money,
is there anything bigger than this
I say right now because there's nothing else right now
but right now or even if they give it a build for a few months
is there anything bigger than MJF versus Osprey right now do you
I don't see it
and see what I said earlier
maybe they've false booked if they're going to do an angle
maybe and I have no foreknowledge
and this I'm sure ain't going to be it
but some variation of the old deal
where they're supposed to have the match but
MJF the heel
cries that he's injured
or he's not cleared or whatever to suck
or Osprey in a position where he can
fucking
brainbuster him or
DD team or tombstone whatever the
tombstone thing, whatever the goddamn
deal is he did to Garcia
drop him on his head
and then laugh at the fans
again because to have that match
even if you have it
and then do an angle afterwards you've
you've taken the blue
off the rose, you have popped the proverbial cherry
on people not having to pay to see
what it looks like for MJF to be in the ring
being physical with Will Osprey.
And, I mean, they can bring Luthez back from the dead
to fucking face Jesus Christ at the second coming of the last supper.
And it ain't going to pop a giant guy.
damn rating different than what they've been doing to begin with.
So why wouldn't they keep their big money match special?
I would think swerve and now we know from later on,
Danielson, which again,
can they put,
they make swerve their world champion.
What are the people who loved him,
cheering him out of the fucking building.
Oh my God,
carried him out on their shoulders.
So they put him against every sentimental favorite
and other beloved baby face
and I guess
at Christmas he'll goddamn
rad shotgun for Santa Claus
but anyway
where was I going with that?
Oh I don't know why in the world you would give this match away
on television
unless they're going to do some kind of hot finish
that they think necessitates a rematch
which I would do that as an angle
without the match in front of it
but that's just me.
Do you think they have to have the match,
or do you think if they did an angle,
something, you know, to get heat on MJF,
whatever it may be, if they did something,
is it too big of a rip-off
considering the way AEW sells themselves
to their fans for them to do an angle,
which should be beneficial,
but again, they're selling everything on match quality.
You sell tickets on match quality.
You may have a problem,
the fans may have a problem if you do an angle.
What do you think?
I don't think they're selling tickets.
So, again, it's not my fault that they fucking agreed to this,
but if in some way, shape, or form, MJF, who's already warned everybody,
I'm going to fuck with everything you like, I'm going to fucking make this company
and all of you fans pay for disrespect me and abandoning me and all the other verbiage,
MJF is the one who challenged Osprey for this thing
for the match.
Maybe he's suckering him in to get him close
and he could do something to him, boom,
and then Osprey goes to
Tony Kahn or Christopher Daniels
or one of the fucking lollipop guild
or whoever's running this hot dog stand this week
and demands a match at Wembley Stadium
in his home country where
he's going to be face to face with MJF
instead of MJF pulling some kind of fucking
bullshit. I don't know.
Because I don't know what they're doing here, giving us away with a week's notice.
And I mean, as swerve and Danielson is interesting in many old England, as Osprey and
MJF will be, especially after six more weeks of promos.
I think swerve is less interesting now than he ever has been.
And I think with Danielson, in their eyes, this story of him
in his last year
trying to overcome all these obstacles
is good booking
and has been done well
so for them I think that is compelling
but I don't think to the general
I don't think to the AEW fan at large
that's compelling thing
MJF versus Osprey is the most compelling thing
maybe the only compelling thing
in the entire company
anyway let's move on
but I'll wait and
attempt to be impressed.
How's that?
All right.
And then they did a package on Danielson and Page in the Owen Hart final.
At various points they said the winner gets the Wembley main event.
And then they said the winner gets a AEW title match.
And then finally later on they mentioned it it's held by swerve.
And actually they should be saying it gets a,
shot at the AW World title currently held by
swerve Strickland if he has any defenses coming up
between now and end but they probably don't know that, do they?
Tony hadn't decided based on
which other of his action figures he got off the shelf.
And Jeff Jarrett was the special enforcer
which is Tony reacting, I'm sure this was not planned
when they went into the thing,
but reacting to Jeff doing some great interview
and being actually the only person
that knew Owen and his whole fucking thing
and the people started getting behind him.
But again, the
logic
in their universe is
there's nobody producing
the announcers to bring this up.
But okay, yes, they're
changing hang-nail Adam Page's
character,
the healy music, the change in the hairstyle,
he's got a frown on his face
he's supposed to be a heel
but suddenly
Jeff Jarrett doing nothing
but knowing Owen Hart 25 years ago
and doing a couple weeks of promos
now the announcers who are saying
what a no good piece of shitty are saying
oh one of the all-time greats he's a Hall of Famer
Jeff Jarrett
do you see there was no in between
there was no action he took otherwise
than
said some nice
things about a guy who was a friend of his.
Jeffrey Dahmer had friends.
But the announcers are wishy-washy
is the point I'm making.
Did you even pick up on that or are you listening
to him at this point? I mean, I say it all the time.
It's the worst commentary team. Even if you add Nigel,
the problem is Excalibur and Chivani. Those two,
specifically them together,
is audio poison.
It is a killer. It's a killer.
You have no good communicators.
Chivani just yells out positive things.
Or, oh, this son of a bitch, I've had enough of this guy.
Oh, this is great.
Oh, the fans are digging this.
I'm digging this.
Good call.
He says, good call.
Like, he gives him a snap mirror.
Hey, that was a snap mirror.
Oh, good call, Taz.
I heard him the other week some of this funny bullshit.
He said, I love my job.
Yeah.
Chavani's worthless out there.
He should be removed immediately, but he won't be because he's a fucking stooge.
And Tony Chivani likes him for that.
That's one of the reasons Chavani.
Talk to people who weren't into the whole revision as history of Chivani and WCW
about Tony Chivani's dealings in WCW behind the scenes and get back to me.
And then Excalibur is just atrocious on an indie.
You say indie, I did commentary a couple of times on the Indies and I wasn't that bad.
He's bad.
He's a bad communicator.
And you catch him now if you listen where he tries to explain something simple and he gets the words all mixed up and he throws himself off.
not good.
You need to redo the commentary
I've heard a few times
where he went around his elbow
to get to his wrist
and you could tell he's like
how can I get out of this?
But anyway
Danielson and Page
it was long
I will again
Danielson
excels in stuff like this
especially when he's selling
and he's trying to get the other guy over
I just don't see it
in page
as a heel anymore than I saw it as a baby face because there's something that's not there.
He's athletic. He does shit.
It just, I don't, he doesn't, maybe, I don't want to smear Damian priest, but we've been talking
about priest.
It looks like it and he sounds like it, but it ain't happening yet.
I don't see Page at anywhere near even the level that priest is.
he's a guy
I don't
I don't see what's going on
he now he's playing a mean guy
before he played a
happy guy
but then he was a morose
alcoholic guy
but he's just always just a guy
is there anything
there that can spark people
no
no
he's he's their guy
that's the thing you left out
He's their guy.
These guys, one of their big plans,
behind the scenes in terms of booking,
these guys, the recita kids,
they're going to make Adam Page into a major star.
And they put the world title on him,
and they teamed them up with Omega,
and they gave him a drinking problem.
They did everything they could
to the best of their abilities
to make him a star.
And he still just feels like another guy out there.
Well, Danielson, he sold,
and he got juice and he fucking sold some more
and he tried to keep it moving as best he could
with hope spots and
hitting a knee out of nowhere but not been able to capitalize
but did I mention this was very long
and finally Danielson goes for the knee
and Page moves and Danielson wipes the referee out
and then Paige hits the fucking clothesline
and he starts whipping him with a
leather belt and then Jeff Jarrett comes in as the special enforcer
and said don't do that
and Paige shoves Jeff down so Jeff gets up and takes off his shirt
and reveals he has a referee shirt underneath
and of course then Danielson's schoolboys him to count real quick just to get to people
and again it's Gaga
how did Jeff know he was going to need that?
Well he was prepared just in case but
but then they go back and they do some more stuff
couple more two counts and then
Fally Page gets a cross face and Danielson
fights out and they're rolling around on it, roll up one, two, three.
Danielson wins.
And so now it's Danielson against swerve
for the title at Wembley and
again poor swerve.
It gets so popular they want to put
the world title on him and then they put him with the only people in the company that are more
popular that he is over and over again.
And now those people are going to love Danielson.
And then cowgirl Martha Hart and Jeff Jarrett present Danielson with the Owen Heart Cup and
the Owen Hart belt that has pink leather on the back of the Heart Foundation colors.
And can they say, are you allowed?
when somebody is a doctor,
then do you have to from then on use their entire full name
every time you refer to them?
Or could you still just say Martha or Hart?
I think she would probably think,
and anyone else who has a doctorate,
would probably think it's disrespectful to not include doctor
because they work for it.
But do you have to say the whole complete name,
like Dr. Martha Hart? Not even Dr. Hart.
This is her thing. I think they do.
If it was just like every day weekly...
weekly TV, it'd be one thing.
This is the whole thing is for her.
27 times they said Dr. Martha Hart in the space of two minutes.
Couldn't you say Dr. Hart or boy, it's great to see Martha or just anything to change
that up from Dr. Martha Hart, Dr. Martha Hart, Dr. Martha Hart.
Well, I guess you're right.
See, that's what I'm not saying disrespect her, but I'm not.
Do we have to say Dr. Marcus Welby every goddamn time?
They say her name more than they say,
Owens.
That's what I mean.
It was like it was just a flood of it.
Dr. Martha Hart, behind the Owen Hart Foundation,
Dr. Martha Hart in the ring now with a great-looking cowboy hat on.
Dr. Martha Hart.
Hey, can I say something?
I wish you wouldn't, but go ahead.
Well, thank you very much.
Little.
Do you think with the change in ownership in WWE and, you know, at various times over the last
few years, even before the change in ownership,
people like Triple H, doing what they can to try to mend relationships,
like you saw a Bruno San Martino.
New ownership.
No Vince.
She's trying to do something for this foundation.
Is there anything there for her to, you know,
because Owens' legacy is with WWE.
Let's be honest.
It's not with AW.
Is there anything there under the new ownership to pull Dr. Martha Hart in
so they can really do something?
Or do you think there's no way like it's just W&W?
as an entity is the enemy.
And I read her book.
And by the way, I read her book,
she has every right to feel however negative she feels about all those motherfuckers.
So I'm not saying she doesn't.
Well, and no, and I've agreed also, you know, before.
It's like, what the fuck?
She, you know, she has every right not to do business with or allow her husband's name
to be exploited by that company.
And it is, that's why I was.
thing because obviously I haven't talked to her about it.
I didn't call her up mask her. Hey, now Vince
is gone. But
at the same point,
it is still, it is the company.
It is the
company name.
I don't know what her
standpoint
is on the idea
that it is still that entity, no matter
who's there.
Who is still
there that would have been there then?
Triple H, but he wasn't an exact.
He wasn't in power at that point, although, depending on what private thoughts Owen had shared on Triple H with her, I'm sure she has a pretty good preconceived notion.
I don't know.
That's tough because nobody ever expected there to be a new regime of any kind, really, for so long.
But I can understand again why...
Nick Conn.
You know, even if it was just that entity, she might feel that way, but, you know, bring up a good point.
You could make a lot more money, get a lot more fucking awareness.
Oh, yeah.
W.W. would sell out that building.
And that's just, you know, the building in Calgary.
If W.W.E got behind it, they'd make it a big deal.
Right now, this ownership didn't make it a big deal.
It'd get a lot of attention.
You'd raise more money.
You'd be able to help more people.
and more, I shouldn't say more importantly, but also I think it, hopefully the one thing would be just kind of, not ending it, but just kind of bringing everyone together and moving on without any animosity because it's a different, it's a different ownership. If you believe that Vince is gone. And Bruce Pritchard still there. You asked for a name who was there back then. Oh shit, that's right. Mike. Well, he's left and come back, as Aunt Lola used to say.
But that one thing you brought up, how far would they want to go just to get?
I mean, for a Hall of Fame induction, you know, whatever, that would, I'm sure they would want some involvement.
But are they going to take the Owen Hart Foundation on the road and raise them $50 million?
Maybe not.
But even merch.
But even merch right there to raise money.
They do merch with AW.
Owen Hart's in their video game.
Owen Hart action figures are on sale from AEW's action figure maker.
It's not WWE.
You know what I was about to say?
Well, I was about to say then it looks like it's not going to be WW for a while
because obviously they've got contracts in place for that.
But you know what?
Since it's AEW, maybe not.
But no, Dr. Martha Hart, she would make sure there was proper paperwork.
Proper paperwork.
So it's a moot point probably now for,
quite some time.
If they've made this investment in the game and in the merchandise and in the tournament
and her appearances, I would think that would preclude them from doing anything with
WWE in the near future.
Very selfishly, and you can understand why, but very selfishly, a lot of fans want that closure
of Owen being recognized in WWE.
And I say selfishly because obviously Dr. Martha Hart doesn't, and she wants something different
and again, read her book.
If you want to know about what she went through with them,
read her book.
She has every reason to be upset
and no reason to be called bitter because of it.
Yes.
But that was the O'N file.
Brian Danielson wins a title match against Swirr-Strickland.
I'm sick of his fucking music.
I'm getting sick of Nonna too.
Oh, Kona never gets to do anything else.
So he has to do the same thing over and over.
He's got to come up with a new move.
Well, that's what she said.
You know, if Nona doesn't come up with a new move, I might sue.
Well, I'll tell you what, if you're entirely insistent upon suing a man
because he cannot come up with a different way to gyrate his hips in a sexually suggestive
fashion, then I know exactly who you ought to talk to.
Call Stephen P. New a show for two.
Those are the rest.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, if you indeed would like to see a man gyrate his hips in a sexually suggestive fashion over the face of a fallen opponent that tried to deny you your proper compensation in a court of law, and then Stephen P. Neu comes along, boom, and smites that opponent and stands over there and swivels those hips just like he did at the West Virginia Barclia.
Association dinner and banquet
a couple of years ago, and he
got himself out of that, too.
Because one thing about Stephen P.
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you that he can write
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Brian, can you think of another man
that you would want swiveling his hips for your betterment?
For the record, I don't want anyone swiveling their hips for my betterment,
but whatever they do for society is,
to them.
Well, society needs a good pelvic thrust every now and then.
Just to keep everybody in line.
Well, Stephen P.
Speaking of lines.
Yeah, for fans of the pelvis or not, Stephen Pino, 8775-0, Steve, but back to
the pelvis of wrestling known as dynamite.
Well, yes, because after Danielson got presented with the cup,
and where's the saucer to go along with it?
Then Swerve's music played, and here came Swerve and Nana, and they go to commercial break.
So you think when they come back from the commercial break, that Swerve and Nana have confronted Brian Danielson, who will be his opponent, right?
Everybody else is gone.
It's just Swerve and Nana.
Where did they go?
And why did Swerve come out with Danielson in the ring?
if Danielson was just going to leave under cover of commercial break.
That was clickbait.
Brian, that's what that was.
I guess so.
It was, we thought we was going to see something that we didn't see.
So then swerve, congratulated Danielson.
He said it's going to be a true honor facing him at Wembley.
What else can he say?
I'll kill you, you little fucking broken down white pipsqueak?
No, because they're all baby-faced.
And he is swerve, he is still mad, however, that Danielson has a pin over him.
But things have changed since then.
So that's the big bone of contention that they've got right now for the main event
world title match is, yeah, well, the other guy beat me a while back.
But people love us both, so we can't really be too nasty about each other.
and he talks about the EVPs offered him a spot in the Blood and Guts match
and he will be joining Blood and Guts on Team AEW.
He says, I'm going to step up and lead this team to victory over the elite.
So the people that are actually executive vice presidents of AEW are on the team
that is being fought by Team AEW.
Are you following all this, Brian?
Yep.
Okay.
Then Swerve challenged Okodi for some reason at some point somewhere.
Yeah, I know he got it.
He got it in.
He's challenging him too, right?
Do you remember any more details?
Swerve's challenging Okada?
Yes.
I don't remember any other detail.
I didn't like this promo.
I swearb just rambles now too.
He's another one who gets nowhere
and you can't follow what he's saying
because he can't follow what he's saying.
It's all the stuff they've got him talking about
is he is congratulate Danielson
be an honor facing you at wet.
People don't want to see swerve Strickland be nice.
He was a baby terrorizer and they cheered him.
Now he's congratulating the guy
that's going to be an honor to fight.
You know, and then
the EVPs, well, I turn them down.
because I'm a baby face and I'll fight on the team
that's representing AEW
that's against the EVPs of AEW.
And then I'm going to fight Okada too.
And then Danielson, it's going to be your final countdown.
It was just everywhere.
And as they go to the break,
because it's 56 minutes into the show
and all we've seen is the things that we have described.
and they're plugging Willow Nightingale against Maria May
as the main event and right then I know my God
they've got to be out of their minds
because we've still got an hour to go
and that's what they're dangling in front of us
as a carrot on the end of a stick.
Your thoughts of anything going forward before we move on?
I heard that swerve is as over
as he's been with the people in the building,
however many people there may be.
but he's lost his luster to me and his promos don't help.
He's got nothing to say or he's got no way to say it.
You know, I don't know, I'm kind of, I've gotten sick of swerve,
and I was a big booster of his, obviously, but I'm kind of gotten sick of swerve strickle.
Well, he's got to kill people with kindness.
He just like, oh, Danielson, going to be an honor getting in the ring with you, white boy.
I don't. I don't.
That's twice you've called him a white boy.
What do you do?
Well, it's good.
You know, look at the two of them.
Danielson is translucent.
You can read a newspaper through his fucking chest skin.
And I don't think they,
they may both come from Washington,
but it didn't look like they come from the same neighborhood.
There's liable to be some conflict you could manufacture,
but they can't say anything bad because they're both baby faces.
And they can't do that shit again, can they or will they were?
Danielson's there
Dynamite all of a sudden
Swerve shows up in his house
with Brie Bella or something
because that's the shit
that Swerve did to get him over
I think in this case
only if we find out
that he's been going over
to see Bree for about
a year and a half
Oh shit
See that now
That made you go
Oh shit didn't it see
Now that'd be a fight
Anyway at 9 o'clock Eastern
We got a comedy rap video
of the acclaimed
and Billy Gunn invading the elites locker room
where they rifled through their shit,
smelled their sneakers,
and pissed on two fake buckaroos
dressed up as Maddie and Nikki.
And I am not kidding.
And I know the kids talk fast in the raps,
but I can't follow Castor now at this space.
It was so,
it was so quick.
And so much gawg,
I lost track of what he was even saying,
but the video, do they have to be just clowns about everything?
And if the baby faces are just complete jackoffs about what the heels have done,
then does it mean that they care that much?
And if they don't care that much, should I care?
And did I ask you about seven questions there?
I have the answers to none of them.
But I guess they're on Team A&EW.
you.
All righty.
Did you enjoy the stampede street fight between Samoa Joe and the Learning Tree Chris Jericho?
Because it's Stampede Week, so naturally they've got to have a stampede street fight.
I heard complaints from people in the building about how long Joe was in the walls of Jericho.
Oh, well, we have a way to time it because he got put in the walls of Jericho to go to the break,
and he was still in the walls of Jericho when they came back three and a half minutes later.
Unbelievable.
And I've heard of, you know, slowing down when you're in commercial break to catch your breath.
But the point is Joe tried his best.
He did the big dives.
He did his stuff.
But, you know, they start the street fight by Joe having to snatch Jericho's
cowboy hat.
And then Jericho dumps
out a bag of horseshoes.
And
as I said, the
lion tamer,
Boston Crab, whatever the case
through the entire commercial break.
And then
the walk fight.
They go over the rail
and they fight in the stands
and then they walk fight through the
backstage. It just with their hands on each
other, just walking.
And they go past the coffee station and
throw the hot coffee.
And Joe gets a sleeper
and Big Bill comes out of a fucking closet
somehow.
With a chair and starts beating up Joe
and then Brian Keith does.
And Jericho hits Joe
with his Dr. Martha
Heart belt buckle.
The Dr. Martha...
So now
they're making a big deal out of
Dr. Martha Hart,
the ultimate baby face in Calgary.
gave Chris Jericho a gift of a belt with a big Western belt buckle.
And he's punching the guy with...
Poor Martha!
She didn't know her gift was going to be used for ill.
But anyway,
then that they have beaten up and compromised and diminished and decimated
and flabbergasted Joe, and he's down,
they put him on a forklift.
And Brian, you remember the
the last time they built a fake room
so they could throw somebody through a window?
Oh, that's right. And there was a guy in the fake room
who just disappeared?
Yes, because the walls didn't meet.
Well, I'm telling you what,
that was a goddamn restoration of the Notre Dame Cathedral
next to this fucking apparatus that they used next
because they goddamn, they put Joe on this forklift,
and Jericho revs up the forklift and drove him through
what can only be described as an obviously fake drywall, drywall wall
that was attached to nothing and was just hung up freestanding with no studs and held
up with clamps.
It didn't meet
not only did it not meet
the walls around it but they
were all concrete while there was just this
fucking about
eight foot tall, 20 foot
wide stand
of drywall
and when the forklift went
through it you could see
not only were there unpainted
two before us on the face
side of this wall that you could see
but when it went through
you can see that Brian, you're a homeowner.
I don't know how much building codes you have studied.
I've watched a lot of people remodel around here lately.
How close together do you have to have studs?
How far apart of your studs usually?
Oh, I have no idea.
Well, 15 to 18 inches.
You know how far apart their studs were?
Seven feet?
In this wall?
About eight feet.
And not only that, but before he drives through it,
besides being able to see the naked unpainted two-befours,
maybe even one-by-toos on the outside of this thing,
you can still see sawdust on the floor in front of it
where they've just constructed it.
It doesn't meet the concrete wall on the side or behind of it.
It's just freestanding, and it's held up with clamps.
And it's an area where you go under the stands there.
That's why there's a sign that says,
caution, low clearance.
Because you're just walking underneath this,
something in, it looks like this in almost every arena I've been in.
It's a slanted area where the stands are going up
and it's triangular and you're walking through a hallway around that area.
They just put up a goddamn big mess of drywall
so they can run the forklift through it.
And so now they're stuck under the bleachers
and Colt Cabana comes out,
referred to as one of the coaches,
and is yelling at Jericho,
and the doctor stopped the match.
Because the match, of course,
it's still been going on.
Up to that point, they'd only been in the back
about three or four minutes.
And then they come back after the break
and do a replay of it
like we needed to see
it again.
And when Cabana came through,
he just reached up and pushed
the fucking drywall and it just crumbled
in his hands like he was a goddamn incredible
fucking bulk.
And then they load Joe in the ambulance
and drive him out while Jericho
and Big Bill and Brian Keith
are standing there waving goodbye at him.
So,
poor Joe,
he,
He tried his best.
He's a quality talent.
And somebody leaves in an ambulance every week now.
So why are we supposed to be shocked or upset?
They just did this last week.
So every week of who's going to be next week.
Now people will start betting on it.
And again, we saw two big attacks at the end of each show.
So Tony and his mind is obviously heating things up, getting ready for the big August.
His shows, Joe is a TV show to film, so he'll be back soon enough.
But Jericho, the story's still Jericho.
How awful he is.
How awful this gimmick is.
Every little bit of this.
And he's one of Tony Kahn's biggest weaknesses,
because he can't get past the fan that he is a Jericho.
But God damn, get this fucking guy off TV.
Tony should spend some money and book Chris on a tour
of like Asia
for like three years
let him really go out there
and spread rock and roll
to the world, his brand of rock and roll
to the world
and let us live our lives
us wrestling fans
atrocious garbage awful
we need to stop trying to justify
his attempts to stay on TV
for the remainder of this giant contract
and now we know also he's the shits
at doing drywall
and on commentary
he had to have done it himself
Cherico put that
thing up himself because no nobody that's ever constructed anything would have i could have pushed a
plastic bag through it yes no i'm just dilly just blow on it it would have fallen down it and it's not
like this is this is rousseau and this is ruso shit and this is ruso shit we're going to put you
out a track on a forklift for no reason and drive you through a drywall that doesn't exist
so Jericho and his friends could wave goodbye in the parking lot.
This is why people compare this to late WCW, to late period WCW.
It's terrible.
Yeah, somebody's on their period.
And now they had a four-way match for a shot at the international title.
See, everybody's getting the shots at the titles here now.
And this was Claudio versus PAC versus Felcher versus
Ishi
And this was a perfect
I had a cheeseburger that needed to be warmed up
that was left over
that I needed to nash on
as Howard Finkel would say
And
So I went and did that
And what I saw was
Ishi is fucking embarrassing
What the fuck?
It looks like somebody
fucking
gave cognitive thought to an armadillo.
He's just all stooped over and fucking hunchy.
Well, he's a shorter man.
I think he's only like five foot four maybe,
five five,
at the most.
See, if he had a neck, he'd be five nine.
But he'd take out six inches out in the middle
that most people have in God.
You know, watching him against Claudio,
it's not good just because of the height difference.
And when they were laying in those forearms,
I don't know how much of this you watched.
It's everything you complain about,
the soft forearms that are barely touching.
And you could tell.
And again, there's a giant height difference.
He's 5'4.
What is Claudio?
6.5?
5.
He's about 6'4.
Yeah, easily.
He's like a foot tall.
It was just so not for me.
I thought Fletcher looked really good in this, actually, though.
Well, good for him.
Maybe he'll have something to fall back on one day.
Anyway, um...
Did you see the interaction between René Moxley Good and the hangnail?
I did a big dramatic moment, our opportunity for Renee here.
What did you think of this?
Well, I'm telling you, she's coming down the hall,
talking to the announcers that have just pitched to her,
page comes out, shoulders past her,
and she chased him down and demanded a little respect for what I'm trying to do here, too.
and he ignored her and just knocked on the locker room door and she walked off
I'm pretty sure she can take him
I think she can take him
if I was him I wouldn't be some fucking flippant with her
she's on Canada maybe she played some hockey
I don't think she'd need to
I think she could have majored in bacon brownies and take fucking Adam page
but
and nevertheless he knocked on the door oh cody opens the door can i help you
and page is going to go in and he stops him and i i hope you and then the buckaroos come out
and they do a little bit of their phony reporte and then page just to growls at him
and he'll do it and walks off so he was grumpy at him last week he's grumpy at everybody
But what changed to make him not grumpy with them from last week,
but say he lost the match to Brian Danielson.
So is Danielson on that team?
Nobody's articulating these things.
Does he get a hold of Danielson?
If he gets in this match with these people as partners, what's going on here?
He'll join their blood and guts team, which is what they wanted and what we thought it was going to be.
And I don't think it's about Danielson.
It's about losing the title match.
Losing the Owen meant you lose the match.
against swerve at Wembley.
Yeah.
What's that got to do with July the 24th in Nashville?
It has to deal with swerves on Team AEW as the world champion,
and the Bucks and Jack Perry and Okada, team jerk off.
They need someone, a fifth man, Adam Page.
Other than Colt Cabana, who else could it be?
It's going to be Adam Page.
And Adam Page, I heard that he just did a promo on collision,
all bloodied up, yelling about things.
and he's saying that he's not happy that the fans chose swerve after everything he did over him.
So I don't think that thing's over.
Wait a man, that's MJF's deal, isn't it?
Well, I don't think this thing is over.
So are we now going to do two or three or four or five heels with the same goddamn gripe
based on their insecurity and rejection fucking syndrome?
So who's team AEW now?
It's swerve.
It's Mark Briscoe.
I'm going to assume Darby, right?
Because he showed up later in the show.
I thought the acclaimed, maybe still the acclaimed.
Is that team AEW right there?
Well, maybe.
Swerve, Darby, Briscoe, and the acclaimed.
All right.
They've really done a great job of building up this blood and guts.
Hey, do you remember when Tony Kong got beat up?
When the owner of the company got beat up by the heel stable?
And his dad was in there?
What's his dad going to say or do?
Nothing.
It went nowhere.
doesn't matter.
His dad had been waiting to see that for years.
Christopher Daniels was like, all right, I got a way to get back on TV.
Then we don't see him ever again.
He never talks ever again.
Well, you know who talked again, though, Brian?
Who's that?
Mercedes Moon.
She comes out, and she's going to have another celebration, and she's got a little display
where she's going to have a toast to herself or whatever the fuck.
and the fans were just standing there and staring at her,
was she doing her little stripper pole dance,
and when she says, say hello to your CEO, there's Kalayabu.
Could she explain that?
Why exactly is she the CEO?
What exactly is she the CEO of?
Does she understand what the initial signify, C-E-N-O?
And how does any of that have to do with this?
That has CEOs make money.
and because she can't call herself banks and had all these funds about money.
And the boss, she was the boss, remember?
And she was the boss and the CEO is the boss and they make money.
And so now she's Mercedes Moni and she's a CEO.
And she's a bad actress and she's doing bleh material and she doesn't do it well.
And the only heat she got was for another.
middle of his thing when she said, I'm the best her is, the best her was, the best
her ever will be, because they're in Calgary, and they, oh, fuck you.
And she was about to toast herself, and here came Britt Baker's music.
And she comes down the aisleway and fights her way past two security guys, including
super kicking one, and then rolled in and ran Mercedes out of the ring.
Here's a question I want to ask you, Brian.
why do they not have female security?
Well, I guess in this time of equal rights,
there's still the thought, and probably right,
that a big muscular, a big strong man is probably the best person
to actually be in the role of a security guard
due to what a security guard may have to do.
Well...
There aren't a lot of big female bouncers at bars with men.
Well, but now here the converse, the obverse, the reverse, the reverse.
put it in rewind.
The men's security guards,
285 pounds, they can't touch the Liv Morgans
and the Mercedes moans and all these small little girls
on television.
They can't just yank them up and fucking carry them away
tucked under their arm like they could in real life
because the networks and the company,
they don't like that kind of thing.
So what I'm saying is
when the girls get in a fight,
they ought to send out girl security.
And then we'll see how tough these girls are on either side.
Wouldn't you like to see that?
I mean, it's interesting.
I would like to see it because I've never seen it.
So I would like to see more people get jobs.
That's nice.
More people there.
Because the guys out there, the guy security comes out and they either get beat up
or they pull the guys apart.
But the guy's security comes out for the girls, they're not allowed to do anything.
They just stand around waving their arms like a bunch of fucking idiots.
we'll send a couple of about a half a dozen
goddamn off-duty hooters waitresses down there
and you'll watch the ratings fucking
bounce up and down
the only thing more ridiculous than Britt Baker
taking down the two male security guards
without flinching would have been of Adam Cole did it
well that's true
maybe during Adam Cole's matches
they can send the girl's security down
ridiculous what is this
but what do you think wouldn't it wouldn't
that'd be good to see?
I would.
I would.
It would.
Yes.
Have a sad.
Wouldn't I wouldn't it be good to see?
A lot of people don't think it'd be like it is, but it do.
If those girls got in a big old fight down there and you sent about 10 or 12 more girls
to pull them apart, well, Aaron, yeah, you've just got something now.
How about a pervert security guard?
Whenever they try to break up the girls, he cops a feel.
And then finally, they turn on them and that leads to the women security guards.
I think, well, they could, they could milk it for three or four weeks.
Every week, this same security guard keeps really getting kicked in the head or beat up by one of the girls and come to find out they all compare notes and he's trying to grab them with the bowling ball and ball and ball and ball parts.
Maybe just a thought.
On TNT or TBS, excuse me.
On TBS, yes.
They'll go for anything.
All righty.
Well, back from the break.
that's when
Brandon Cutlet
was in the back
being beaten up
by Darby Allen
and Darby beat him up
and he told Jack Perry
and the elite off
and walked out
the whole thing was over with
in about 30 seconds
and
he's back
he can't climb the mountain
so he came back
the fun
that's just
back from a commercial break
if you heard the commercial
and you were in the
kitchen making a sandwich, you wouldn't even have been back in time to see this.
The fight is in progress.
I didn't see it.
I heard about it after the fact.
I missed this.
Yeah, the fight's in progress.
He hits him a couple of times.
Doesn't take long to whip cutlets ass, as we all know.
And then he's, ah, you, Jack Perry, and he'll eat and blah.
And he's gone.
That's the way they re-debue Darby Allen.
What happened to him?
Was he blown up by an incendiary device?
Oh, no, no, no.
He broke his foot and then while recovering, his face was hit by a bus.
Yes, but the, well, the storyline reason was that he was, his foot was broken because
it was really broken, but they said that on TV.
That's when, that's when he's been out recently, right?
Because he had left to climb the mountain before that.
No, that was how he left to climb the mountain.
He got hurt, so he couldn't climb the mountain.
They did the angle to hurt him and take him off TV so he could go climb.
the mountain, but in doing the angle, he really got hurt, so he was still off TV, but he didn't
climb the mountain.
Hopefully, did you climb all of that?
Well, I didn't see that, but I heard what you said.
And are we done with dynamite?
Was that the end of the time?
No, no, no.
Oh, we got the main event.
We got the main event to go.
It's going to turn their fortunes around.
Because they're, they're really lobbying to get major corporate sponsors at a big renewal on their
television deal.
they actually went so far in that effort as to have
one girl cut herself in the head with a razor blade
and have the other girl lick the blood off of her
on fucking national cable television in the United States of America
at 10 o'clock on an eastern time
and you know what I will say to
anyone bleeding is something that the average person
who's not a wrestling fan may be concerned with
a woman bleeding like that on TV, that's something that I think even some wrestling fans ago,
that's a bit much. She's so pale and so white right now that it really looked disturbing how
bloody she got. Well, also, when Mariah was, is it Maria or Maria? I've gone both ways.
It's Mariah. You better watch us. She'll shoot you with that fucking thing in the mouth.
Well, fuck yeah. I'm not fucking getting anywhere near her. Um, she's got her by the hair and she's
standing over and she's licking it
and she's wiping it and she's glorifying in it.
It looked like a goddamn
frisetta painting of a Conan
fucking the conqueror scene.
I just got a great book that Tashan did all of his artwork.
Well, and they may be
looking for other lines of work.
If they
I can't believe
if the network is bleeping shit
in crowd chance,
that they really appreciated
what was going on there
and the visual that people were getting
when they were...
Can you imagine the female audience
tuning in trying to find modern family?
So,
it was Willow Nightingale
and Mariah May,
Maria May, we just settled this,
for the Owen Hart Cup,
and then
Mariah wins,
and Tony Storm celebrates with her,
and then
Mariah grabs the belt and clocks Tony Storm in the head
and she gets color and she's bleeding
and then again
there's Mariah
the shoe the high-heeled shoe and she's potatoing her
in the face with it look brutal
at one point she hit her in the mouth and Tony Storm moved a little bit
yes she's like hey fuck
but it
it it escalated quickly
as the young folks said
but also, I'm sorry I know in the wrestling bubble that these people live in.
Oh, that's a great thing.
But you can't.
We've just seen a documentary talking about and interviewing some television broadcasting programming executives at this very same company
about what their thoughts were pro-an con about professional wrestling.
the same people may not still be in charge
but many of the same
concepts that people have for television
and how to brand their network
still apply
not only there but in a variety of places
just because you change the executives
doesn't mean you change the way
that they think about the fundamentals
of how they're building their business
and none of these people
need professional wrestling.
And it was just said in
that program, who killed WCW.
And remember, this is a time where the WCW
telecast was drawing
three and four times, still at the end, three and four times
the audience that this is drawn.
And the executive is like, we don't think it's upscale
for what our overall programming plan is.
We can't get big sponsors.
They don't want to spend the money.
Who's going to sponsor that fucking last segment?
Gillette Razor Blades?
No, I'm sorry.
It's not something that networks really particularly
would ask to have on their air
is women beating each other bloody,
whether work or not when it's real blood
and it looked a little fucking graphic.
Guys' blood sometimes used to get you in trouble
with television stations.
This was close-ups.
This was Tony Storm did a great job of selling it
because it made me not want to see it.
It was pretty brutal.
And again, she's so pale right now
that the blood really stood out
and it was a disturbing image to end the show with
They thought it was a hot angle.
Again, they ended last week's show.
MJF doing this to Daniel Garcia.
Not with a woman's shoe, but you know what I mean.
Yes.
Two weeks in a row, they're ending the show with a big turn.
Well, and in the middle, they just hospitalized.
Oh, goddamn, who went out in the ad Joe went out.
Samoa Joe.
Yeah.
So from a booking standpoint, this has suddenly gotten repetitive over just a couple of television shows.
and from a business standpoint, holy fuck,
if they're in a position where girls getting color on television
will make a significant impact in their overall business
enough to justify the risk of potential sponsor and television backlash,
then they're in a pretty shitty spot.
And if Tony called his babysitter or liaison or comment,
concierge or whoever at TBS and said, well, we're going to have blood with one of the girls in an
angle.
I don't know if he still told him and we're going to have a close-up as the one girl licks
the blood off her head.
At the very end, like the last thing before it cut off from me was Tony Storm actually
like spitting the blood out of her mouth.
Well, wouldn't you?
I guess so.
So I'm not surprised they caught that activity.
so we'll see if
maybe Hormel with a nice new
lunch meet for kids will sponsor next week or something
well that's a AWD dynamite we do not have the quarter hour ratings yet
so we will time travel shortly to get there
what is that a parakeet fucking a fucking football over there
you know depending on which atmosphere you enter you never know the
sounds that'll disseminate from the time machine, we are here in the future.
Yeah, some of those sounds emanating. It sounds like you had
bad fucking Taco Bell for dinner, but go ahead. Nevertheless,
we're here in the future. We know things now that we didn't know then.
All things are as they were then, except you are there.
And we have found out it is indeed true. Jim has a massive collection of Clara Mortensen
nude photos for no good reason.
They're daguerreotype.
I'll have you know.
Really?
Instead of...
Yes.
Well, speaking of anything else but this.
AEW Dynamite, Jim, July 10th, Calgary, Alberta, Canada,
the Scotia Bank Saddle Dome, not the Scotty Bank Saddle Dome, as I called the last time.
Did you say what you got?
I didn't correct you.
It sounded right.
The Scotty Bank?
It sounded right.
Well, Scotia, they had just a scotia of a crowd there.
According to Wessel Ticks, the final Campt.
Tickets distributed 4,524.
The last time they were there for the record was last year, July 15th, 2023, the attendance 5,896.
Ouch.
Oh, well, it's only 1,300 and some down, but it's Stampede Week.
They seem to be making a tradition of this, so maybe the people are making a tradition of not
coming back.
Well, we'll see if that's another holiday that affects the ratings here this week, Jim.
AW-Denamite July 10th, according to WrestleMania 5.m., 691,000 viewers on average.
Okay, so weeks ago, we would have said, oh, ha!
But now that, I can't remember, but is that up from last week?
Last week was 688.
See, it's up just a Scosh, just a Scotia Bank.
So this is about where they're at right now.
That's exactly.
They were in the eights, now they were in the sevens, now they've gone to the sixes.
Now on the bright side, they're up 8% over the trailing four-week average, which was 636, or 638, excuse me.
Yeat.
I'm not about to say there.
But, you know, that's, you kind of just hit on one of the things I keep thinking every week when we see these numbers, because we set it.
It's like they settle in and then they start losing viewers and they gain a little bit back and it never comes all the way back.
And we'll talk later on about different things that are blamed.
But let's go to the quarterly breakdown.
I'm still, I'm with the all night gas station theory, but go ahead.
I can be swayed.
These are compiled by Ressalonomics, quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m.
The recap of MJF's live promo on Collision,
the Will Osprey MJF Live promo, or MJF, I think, was taped, but I don't know.
And the Owen Hart tournament video, 819,000 viewers.
Okay, that is better than they have done the last couple of weeks, as I remember,
on starting out with a bigger number and...
High point in the key demo as well.
And so, but now it looks like from their average,
they may be plummeting toward a precipice at some point to program.
But continue, my dear fellow.
Quarter two, 815, 8. Oh, Jesus.
You can't even get the time out before.
Oh, my God, mother of all creatures big and small.
I was doing quick math, but it actually goes with the trend.
line quarter to 815 830 p.m.
Brian Danielson versus hangman Adam Page
with picture and picture
with picture and picture
725,000 fewer.
Ouch, okay, well that's only
94,000 people.
But did this marathon
battle of the Titans, did it keep the people?
Did it hook them in?
When you book a match?
like that on television, is that the goal
to keep who you have, to get more people
in? Do you expect to lose people?
What is a Booker's expectation?
Essay question, in the
territories, you weren't thinking about the
ratings because the
ratings on your local stations was probably
always good, and if they weren't good, you
probably weren't running that town.
You wanted to,
as a whole, present the program
where it would draw
the most money
to the house shows and the
angles and the matches that you were going to be promoting.
And if you were going to do a long match like that, Dusty did them, because Eddie Graham did them,
it was to showcase intermittently, not rarely, more often than that, but not regularly.
Obviously, it was to showcase your best workers in a match that was better than what the fans
would normally ever see on television and build to the finish that you wanted to find
people would say, oh, wow, that fun, and they would talk about it, right?
Well, now you can't get anybody to talk about a TV match just because it's long,
because Lord knows we got plenty of those, and it really needs to be now more than ever
with your best workers to even, you know, keep people's attention,
and it's, the quarter-hour ratings are a thing that, especially in local television,
regional syndication didn't even exist 40 years ago,
but you would find that when you had Flair and Wyndham go the hour in Florida,
or when you had the Midnight to Fantastics, yeah,
go the hour on Crockett TV,
or whatever the case may be,
that interest appreciated at the house shows
amongst those people in the rematches.
So it was a completely different thing,
but you didn't just do that thing.
Oh, wow, a bunch of people are going to watch this match
and it'll be the end of it.
It was no, you've already had people watching your wrestling show.
Now you needed to get them interested in a specific thing enough
to want to pay to see it.
Well, we got a quarter three, 830 to 8.45 p.m.
The continuation of Brian Danielson versus Hangman Adam Page
with picture and picture 722,000 viewers.
Well, at least they didn't really lose any.
I mean, at that percentage, it's people that had to piss.
They kept steady.
We go into quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m.
The Brian Danielson live angle, live angle.
What was he?
Where's my notes?
Wait a minute.
Oh, was that just him bumping in the swerve?
Was that just him bumping in the swerve?
Well, they didn't even bump.
Swerve was walking down the,
Well, bumping into, not the physical sense, but just, you know, hey, I bumped into Ellen the other day.
Yeah, well, he got the cup and then here came swerve and then remember we, you know, when he came back, it was where Danielson wasn't there.
Brian Danielson leaving, aka the live angle, an ad break, swerve Strickland's live promo, and an Owen Hart tournament video followed by an ad break, 663,000.
viewers. Oh, good
Lord. And
remember when Swerve was just
over like crazy about three months ago
before they went to work on him?
Not on the mic. But we go now
to quarter five... Well, no, he was noted for his
cunning linguist ability.
People like yelling whose house it is,
but I don't know if his promos
have really been there yet.
I will see if they get there,
but we'll get to quarter five.
The big nine o'clock hour, 9.15 p.m.
Right over there.
Right over here now.
The acclaimed and Billy Guns rap video,
followed by Samoa Joe versus Chris Jericho
in a Calgary street fight.
No.
A stampede street fight.
A stampede street fight.
Picture and picture.
672,000 viewers.
Ooh, it looks like some people came back from taking a dump.
Now, we always say, if you have a Chris Jericho segment at the end of a quarter, it usually drives the next quarter down, let alone a match that goes from one quarter into another, you would think, right?
We have noticed that trend in previous instances.
Quarter six, nine, 15, and 9.30 p.m., the continuation of Joe versus Jericho, an ad break.
The Joe hospitalization angle, and the start of Claudio versus Ishii versus Pac versus Kyle Fletcher with picture and picture, 632,000 viewers.
And 40,000 bite, the dust.
Actually not. I was going to say the low point in the key demo, it's just slightly above the low point.
Well, now see, now that's the way Uncle Dave is going to report it.
I'm going to say this was slightly above the low point.
You can always talk positive.
So they are down...
We're back to our old pattern again.
They're down 100 and...
What is that?
They're 187,000 people from where they started from.
And they haven't cracked 700,000 since 845 Easter.
Well, we're going out of quarter 7.
9.30 to 9.45 p.m.
The continuation of Claudio v. Ishii v.
Pact versus Fletcher.
Pax Live promo,
Hangman Adam Page and Elite and Renee Piquette,
having a backstage confrontation.
Did that remember? That was, I'll do it.
The Mercedes Monet Brit Baker Live Angle.
Oh boy.
An ad break.
And Darby Allen's backstage promo,
I guess that's what we'll call it,
657,000 viewers.
Good Lord, you mean they actually picked up 25,000
thousand for that.
I think people saw Jericho turned off the channel, but they still wanted to watch
wrestling.
They just waited until he was off.
You may be right.
I mean, it proves out every single week.
We go now to quarter eight.
I remind you, we have an overrun.
It says three minutes here.
Willow Nightingale versus Mariah Mae with picture and picture.
Owen Hart, Cornament.
Tournament Cup final.
The Cornament.
That can be your tournament.
Cornament tup.
We have the Jim Cornament.
Uh, picture and picture ads.
640,000 viewers.
Three minute overrun with the big postmatch angle,
with Tony Storm and Luther, 695,000 viewers.
Oh, so suddenly 55,000 people are like,
where the fuck is modern family and why are these women drinking each other's blood?
How many men got beaten up by women on this show this week?
Well, and, and, you know, again, that's not fair.
Oh, that's not why I'm saying it.
I'm not saying we should have...
No, it's sex.
We ought to be able to retaliate
from this epidemic of female-on-male violence on television, but no.
Man, Britt Baker didn't wait for that security guard.
They even do it if it just punched him right to face.
No, he could have been saying, hey, I'm on your side.
I'm going to let you walk right by me.
Oh, whoa.
Oh, whoa.
Well, those were the ratings, and a lot of people were blaming a lot of things.
and as we were recording, the Meltzer says
what Twitter account had tagged you and I
and a lot of people started sending it our way.
Audio, I guess, of Dave and Brian
on their show. I have
not checked the twit machine
here lately, so I haven't seen
this, but you can fill me in now in front
of everybody. Well, I guess their point is
that the biggest thing that's
hurt AEW is WWE being
hot. That that's the single
biggest cause
in AEW being cool,
not the booking, not the talent,
not Tony Con
but WWE being hot
and I wanted to get your thoughts on
if there's any validity to that.
It's nothing we're doing.
It's just these other guys
are so much better at it than we are.
That's the defense
by the
favored nations that
are on the side
of the struggling
secondary promotion.
They're just so much better
at this than we are
that that's why our business is down.
Both of these things can be true.
WWE has gotten better,
NAEW has gotten worse.
And you take the high road and I'll take the low road
and one of us is still going to end up in the shithouse
and one of us is going to end up in the penthouse.
So yes,
WWE has gotten much better
because they're doing things
properly and Vince who was
insane is not there anymore
but meanwhile this fucking parity program
that nobody
with a life could possibly
study enough notes on
to keep track of who the fuck is on
whose side and who's mad at who and why
and then the people aren't over
because
most of them don't know how to get themselves over
and Tony don't know how to get anybody over
Can I stop you there?
Yes.
We hear from people, so I want you to, you're the expert again, explain the difference when people say,
how can you just say they're not over, the people there are really into them?
Well, there's still got to be more to how many people are there?
That's the problem.
When you start something and gradually, year over year, fewer people come and fewer people watch,
you are not doing well.
And that is a cumulative effect of either
losing your talent to where they'd rather go work
somewhere else where there'll be bigger stars and be seen by more people
or booking the ones that were popular at some point
into fucking oblivion
or in some cases, in many cases,
picking the wrong people to fucking spend time on to begin with.
and even though you don't get tired of those people,
a lot of other people got tired of them people.
Yeah, there are people popping for Orange Cassidy in the building,
and there certainly were a few years ago, too.
It's just there are less people doing it today,
and it's just like it is on television.
There were a bunch of people.
You drove some of them away,
and then you kept driving them away.
There is a path.
There was a path where AW could not be WW-level popular.
or that was never going to happen, especially this quickly,
but have been more successful than they are now
while WWE was this hot, right?
It's not like an automatic, WW is hot,
so AEW has to lose audience share.
Well, no, look at the Monday Night Wars.
In a promotional war where both sides can be taken somewhat seriously,
whether it was nationally with WCW and WWF,
or whether it was the territories,
remember sheik and bruiser both did great for a while
because each side is trying to bring in the best talent they can
and compete with the other side
in the early in the 80s with Vince
coming into Crockett territory remember
one night in Cincinnati we did the gardens
they did Riverfront Coliseum and they sold
17,000 tickets in Cincinnati between the two shows
we outdrew them by the way.
But everybody was,
it doesn't have to be
that one side gets its ass kicked royally.
That usually just happens
when that one side sucks.
Jerry Jared and Nick Goulis in 77.
So
at AEW had built in goodwill
that eroded
when two things happen,
number one,
Vince got runoff finally for good
and the WWE started getting more interesting
and two
the people started realizing at AEW
behind the scenes was a goddamn circus
at a fucking romper room
and a shit show and
you know it's funny
all these things work in different directions
in different ways with different people
it's funny as you say that I'm thinking about it
You know, the way WWE always played the media and just fed them bullshit,
whether it was the WrestleMania 3 attendance,
or whether it was ticket sales or reasons for moving WrestleMania 7,
or over the years so many different things.
Vincent Van, I think, said at one point he went to Harvard,
so many different things that they just said to the press,
and the press ran with.
The inside smart fan used to go crazy over that.
the interesting thing is that's what's happening now with AEW and a lot of the wrestling media.
You know, when it was reported last week that AEW was losing more viewers than, what was it,
they were losing more viewers than the cable drop-off rate.
Yes.
AEW apparently pushed back and started sending data.
I think the Brandon Thurston, he published a whole thing on WrestleManiaomics.
So that's just an example.
That's a public one.
But when all of a sudden you start seeing the narrative go to,
overall numbers don't count,
it's all about 18 to 49.
And then 18 to 49 counts,
except for this week because it's 18 to 35.
A lot of these narratives are coming from Tony.
They're coming from AEW.
And AEW is not put in check by a lot of people
the way WWE always was,
and rightfully so.
They should have been.
And they still should be.
But AEW needs to be too.
Well, yeah, because it,
Again, at least with the WWE, there's somewhat of a publicly traded institution where they can't,
they can still lie about a lot of things, but you can find out different.
Back in the day, you couldn't really find out unless you dug deep.
And right now, AEW is in the same, it's up to what Tony says and or what Tony's people say.
Don't believe your eyes. That's what they keep saying.
Don't believe your eyes.
Well, if you had eyes like Tony, would you believe it?
So, right there.
I don't even believe he's got him.
I don't believe how quick you came up with that.
I'm just asking you.
Ah, well...
You could send a picture of Tony Kahn to Ripley and he'd send it back and say, I don't believe it.
Well, we'll see what Warner Networks believes.
And we'll see what kind of deal Tony gets.
If Tony walks away without a streaming deal, I think it's a failure.
We'll see.
I mean, because again, this Tony Counts now making comments this week
that if this deal, if he gets the right media deal,
the entire investment pays off.
So this is going to be a big story and a big investment.
He's a rich kid and he can't book it all,
but you know it don't matter anyway.
He can rely on the old man's money.
He can rely on the old man's money.
All right, well, you can rely on us to cut out quick.
That's the drive-thru. Hold on.
I had every intention of questions.
All right.
Good Lord.
Listen, ladies and gentlemen. I'm out of breath. I'm like horse.
Listen, ladies and gentlemen.
I got a lot of problems with you people. No.
Listen, ladies and gentlemen.
We are going to do something. I know we want to get back to questions, but we do these reviews, and we actually have a lot of fun with it, too.
but they run long.
But we talk about other things in the middle.
That's right.
And I hope that the people don't think we're getting bogged down because we have more fun
with the conversation in the middle than we do actually talking about the wrestling.
But with that said, we're going to make a concerted attempt to get more questions and more inquiries
back on the show as well as more songs in the coming weeks.
But we've been recording a while.
We've got to record in a few days and there's more wrestling to watch.
Ladies and gentlemen, this has been the drive-through.
How do I close this thing out?
Say good night, Gracie.
Stephen Pinoos says, I could say that.
877-50, Steve.
And I'll say goodnight, Gracie, on that.
For Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last.
Tally-ho!
