Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 351

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite & last week's WWE Raw! Plus Jim talks about Stephanie Vaquer signing with WWE, If AEW is cold because WWE is hot, ratings, and much more!  Se...nd in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again, friends! And you are our friends. And welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett try through another happy edition here on another happy day. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last, fun, positive wrestling talk with me and this man, the leader of the cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim Cornett. If it makes you happy, then why are you so sad? I'm fairly certain the entire audience can agree that Cheryl Crow is not a good mix. Her catalog is not good for you. Well, no, she's a fine artist.
Starting point is 00:00:38 She's a great... Slagging off on Cheryl Crow. An extremely talented artist, an extremely talented songwriter. Her material doesn't work for you, for your range, for your whole feel. You think it's because of my character? It doesn't work with my character. It doesn't work for me, bro. It's your key.
Starting point is 00:00:58 You could do maybe like a steep. Nick's kind of thing. I don't know about Cheryl Crow. Whoa, but on the age of 17, who, that's more like it? I think we just cut into our key demo and they're gone. Maybe never to return. Maybe the next stop for me is AEW television,
Starting point is 00:01:22 where I can have a good audition and a record company will sign me up because that's the place now you go to audition for good jobs, right? They'll just let you on television. Yeah, go out and juggle those plates and keep the things spinning on top of the deal and you'll be on a big time variety show on network next week. You know, it's funny. I was thinking about it the other day. Just what is a celebrity nowadays? It used to be as simple as if you were on TV, they would tell you like, the next day you couldn't go anywhere. People would recognize you and see you. And that was it for the rest of your life. in the Matthew Perry from Friends biography or autobiography memoir
Starting point is 00:01:58 he wrote that the producers I told the entire cast the night before the show debuted go out and have a great time because you're never going to do this ever again ever and you realize today it may not be the person on TV as much as the person on the phone the person on YouTube or TikTok or Instagram that's kind of the new celebrity that can go out and get
Starting point is 00:02:23 recognized more than the TV star? But, conversely, will it last the rest of their life or in about six weeks? Is anybody going to recognize any of these dumb shits? See, that's the question. When you had a network
Starting point is 00:02:39 TV, when you had a network behind you and a network TV show, your star and your celebrity could last well into the future, because it wasn't just you and your organization pushing you. It was an entire conglomerate stealing your money and pushing the content.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yes. You were being conglomerated on. But when it's just you and you have to have a team, that's a lot of work for a long-term future, unless you're going to try to just cash out early. The thing is, is that they were creating shit that multiple millions of people wanted
Starting point is 00:03:11 to watch. And then because it was on Kinescope or then videotape or whatever, they were reruns over and over. And, you know, we can thank Lucy and Desi for figuring that out early so that a lot of this, so you were, is any of this internet shit that do internet reruns on TikTok? Oh, look what was hot two years ago. It's in syndication now.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Well, things can get hot again, but again, that's a different model. You're just producing content, putting it out there. It's very of the moment, how much of it's really going to last. And what I was going to say before, that Huck to a girl who's now a big celebrity and apparently has an agent. Did we get her number yet? We did not get her number. We'll see if Tony gets her in Nashville for the big AEW show. But she's been doing all sorts of appearances and interviews now. Apparently, the guys that filmed the interview with her are now upset because they're not getting attention.
Starting point is 00:04:08 There was some article. Like, they're upset that no one's focusing on them. Everyone's focusing on the girl they interviewed. They get to keep the money from whatever video they did. But she's now got all the fame that they wanted. Well, let them draw back a luggy and spit on a good big, throbbing dick. And then they'll get some notoriety, too.
Starting point is 00:04:27 She didn't do it. She just spoke of it. There was no actual... Well, it sounded to me like she had plenty of fucking practice. And phlegm. And phlegm. Saliva. Maybe not phlegm. Saliva. Well, you know, when you're going, you can't really differentiate between the two
Starting point is 00:04:46 unless you've got a test tube and nevertheless. Where were we going with this before we started spitting up? Well, these fucking camera people. Modern celebrity. And they need to know their role and shut their mouth, though. They're out there covering the news. Walter Cronkite didn't think he was as big of a star as Monacham Began, did he? Probably when he went to the restaurant, he wanted a table he did.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Well, that's true. But also, it depends on what country you're in. That's right. I love the name Monachim. Great name. Monaghan, you can't knock him. Can't knock him. He's Monacom.
Starting point is 00:05:23 People name Monachem. You know what else you can't knock? What's that? Cornett's collectibles. Well, son of a gun. I don't know why I didn't think of that before. You can't knock them, but you can buy them. And folks, I'm telling you what right now, let me tell you what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Just because I love you, just because I want to keep your business, I'm going to let you people go to Jimcornad. com right now and order anything you want in the collectibles. section and I'm only going to charge your retail price and you're only going to pay normal shipping and I don't know how long I'm going to be able to do this but while it lasts get not only the Midnight Express tag team action figure sets but also the Jim Cornette action figures the Cornette face t-shirts the DVDs the books the cult of Cornette membership certificates and so much more right now on sale for only retail price. plus regular shipping at Jim Cornett.com.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Well, there you go. Now's a good time. It's summertime. You need your action figures, get the Midnight Express. You can play with them in the pool. That's right. And because you'll have two different tag team sets,
Starting point is 00:06:38 you'll have Bobby and Bizarro Bobby. Well, you could have Bob and Bobby and Duncan Dennis and swim and stand. Did anyone ever call him Bob? Well, yeah, all the time. I mean, we did. hey Bob what are you doing that type of thing but nobody actually like hello bob eaten nice to meet you you know what did you think when he became earle robert oh god i was watching as much as i could at that
Starting point is 00:07:11 point we were otherwise occupied but i always tried to watch what bobby was doing and i love regal at that point also well i'm not saying like i don't love him now like i loved him at that point point, but later I learned to hate him. No, I'm just saying I was a fan of his when he first came to the country. So it was also knowing Bobby, I think that was why they came up with the gimmick, knowing that as far as background, not wrestling philosophy and not being just nice guys, but as far as background and upbringing and geographic location in the world and vocabulary, Regal and Bobby were about as far apart as two people could be. So Earl Robert Eaton was, I'm sure, at some level to entertain people in the office.
Starting point is 00:07:59 When Regal first came to WCW, I forget if it was the end of 92, I think it was the beginning of 93. He was a baby face, and he was as bland as you could be. It just wasn't working. I was like, why would they sign this guy? And then as soon as they put him with Dundee, and as soon as they made him the aristocratic Lord Stephen Regal, and he started with his facial expressions, it was like... A shit-sniff and look. Immediately was like a different guy.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And he was such a, it's not that he was a better worker, but he was so, it suited him better to be a heel than a baby face in the ring. Yes. Well, and because he was also able to draw on the world
Starting point is 00:08:39 of sport, the, you know, British style heel, a lot of different stuff that hadn't been seen here on a national basis and only regionally with, you know, the Adrian Street. and people that might have worked the territories.
Starting point is 00:08:54 So, you know, that, that, that, he was able to bring that out also, and that's what, you know, he was different at that point. So people could hang their hat on it, as J.R. used to say. The most underrated period is right, well, I shouldn't even say that because I think a lot of fans really love it. Right before Hogan got there in 94, when all of a sudden you had Regal feuding with Zabisco, and you had flare, feuding with steamboat, and you had, Mick Foley is Cactus Jack, obviously, and either Max Payne or Kevin Sullivan with the nasty boys.
Starting point is 00:09:27 There was like two pay-per-views in a row, Spring Stampede and Slambury, that were amazing, and then Hogan signed and everything changed for a while. But that's the William Regal story, Stephen Regal, but we're going to get now to the body of the show. The body? You mean, it's dead already? I thought at least it was on life support this early in the program. We have a few reviews, but we're going to try to get to some other stuff here, too. Let me just ask you, are we going to do it on the experience, the WrestleMania Excel behind the curtain? Yes, we are on the experience.
Starting point is 00:10:01 According to my to-do list of things for the weekend, that is what is planned on my schedule, sir. All right, I suggest a barf bag, if you're going to be sitting there and watching. Well, I've also, I've been very busy the past couple of days. I won't bore to people with my busyness, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to catch up on this thing, but I've heard that, yes, that there is some, I'm, I'm, I'm going to expose the business here. I don't see how I'm going to like the concept of a bunch of people sitting down and talking about how they constructed, whether it's true or not, whether they, how they constructed all this to put on a show for the folks. They should make a documentary about how they constructed the documentary. Well, that might be more interesting, trying to figure out how they rewrote the history based on the footage that was at hand, but I can't see Bill Watts drawn 20,000 people to the Superdome in the following week on TV, he tells everybody how he figured out how to book it.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I'm just, I, but we'll see. Jim, let's start today with a story that everyone's been talking about. It's kind of fascinating. Stephanie Vakor, if I am pronouncing her name correctly. I think it's Vacker. Well, she just appeared on the AW-F forbidden door paperview. Put an L, put an L'L instead of the V, and it would be lacquer, right? Like the varnish. Lacour.
Starting point is 00:11:31 No, that's like liqueur. That's a... She's from Chile. She's from Chile. It's a different pronunciation in Chile than it is here. And then you say Chile. Chili. You see?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Chili. You see, that's the difference between Vacker and Vacour. Well, we may need some liquor to get through this show, but Jim... So the point is, what about Stephanie Vacker now? Well, she just appeared on Forbidden Door, had that match of Mercedes-Money, to a lot of people, she was the more impressive of the two in the ring. She was on AEW TV. To ever, everybody in the building was cheering for her.
Starting point is 00:12:10 She was on AEW TV for several weeks leading up to the Forbidden Door pay-per-view. She is a CMLL, I believe she was a title holder there, and wrestled as part of New Japan Pro Wrestling, CMLL, AEW's Love Triangle, whatever to thought. The alphabet soup, she carried a couple of belts out with her. I think maybe had a wheelbar with some more of them. Well, within a
Starting point is 00:12:33 few hours and a day or two, everything kind of broke. We have here an announcement from CMLL and New Japan Pro Wrestling. Thank you for supporting Concejo Mondial de Lucha Libre, CMLL and New Japan Pro Wrestling,
Starting point is 00:12:52 NJPW, I know I pronounced that correctly, citing personal reasons, Stephanie Vecor has elected to depart from the CMLL and New Japan Pro Wrestling rosters effective immediately. As a result, Vacour will not compete in her scheduled match against Louvia at Fantastic Media.
Starting point is 00:13:13 What? L-L-U-V-I-A. Or it could be I'm not even going to try At Fantastica mania July 13th in San Josei Would that be like the Spanish version of like Lama? That's the only other
Starting point is 00:13:29 word I can think of that begins with two L's. Is she the masked llama? I don't know. I'm sure find out. Furthermore, CMLL announces CML hereby announces Vakura stripped of both the CML World Women's
Starting point is 00:13:48 and World Women's Tag Team Championships. She held two of their top titles there. Jesus Christ. This Saturday, a Fantasticamania USA, a new CMLL World Champion, women's world champion, will be crowned in a three-way match featuring Louvia from CMLL,
Starting point is 00:14:05 Viva Vaughn, or Viva Van, whatever, I'm not sure, from New Japan Pro Wrestling, and Willow Nightingale from AEW, we remain committed to ensuring the highest quality wrestling for our fans at Fantastica Mania, USA this Saturday, and at all future events. Shortly after this, I believe Sean Michaels put up a tweet, welcoming her to WWE and NXT.
Starting point is 00:14:33 She put up a tweet. Let me go to this. At this moment, I stopped belonging to the ranks of CMLO and New Japan Pro Wrestling. Clarify, I am leaving through the big door. What? This is a translation. Forever grateful to the World Wrestling Council. Who translated it?
Starting point is 00:14:53 Howie, the mailroom guy? And New Japan Pro Wrestling. And in the best terms, from today I vacate the CMLO World Women's Championship as well as the World Women's Couples Championship, for which I offer an apology to the fans. For obvious reasons, I will not be present at the next shows. And I hope you can understand that the terms between companies are what led to this statement. with Mexico in my heart.
Starting point is 00:15:19 No, no, we don't really understand, do we, Brian? With Mexico in my heart. And with the commitment to represent Mexican wrestling wherever I go, infinite thanks to Signor's Salvador Luteroth for his good wishes. It's so funny, there's another Salvador Luterov. How old would he be now, 120? And he also said that Jerry Lawler is Mexico's wrestler of the year. No, and also thank you for the unconditional support of my people and my colleagues.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Thank you. Let's get away from the translated stuff for a little while. Stephanie Vakor apparently surprised CML and New Japan Pro Wrestling. AEW apparently made an offer for her. WWE in the past, she was not, I don't know how you put it, she was not taken in after a tryout. She was like the rest of them were taken in. But maybe they've had her off. But maybe they've had her eye on her.
Starting point is 00:16:17 The timing of this means they either signed her within two weeks after Forbidden Door or they were talking to her before Forbidden Door. She did all that stuff on that TV show and then immediately signed. But this is reminiscent of WCW. Remember when WCW in like 90, 91 were put people on TV? And then Vince would just take them because they weren't signed. They were just putting anyone on TV. The Nasty Boys jumped right after their big high profile program with the Steiner's.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, well, backing up a second, a lot of times in those days in the early 90s, they didn't want to commit to, they had a certain set amount they were going to spend on talent because everybody was just making their guarantee, no more. And they would just bring guys in for, oh, he's got a deal in Japan, well, let's bring him in for some TB shots or whatever. And that's how Vader was there for a few appearances one year and then came in the next. He wasn't going to go to the WWF at that point because his Japan thing was too lucrative. But nevertheless, back to modern day, here's the thing is, and this, maybe the new ownership is changing all of the procedures they've gone through. But obviously, I've talked to guys over the last, on and off the last 15 or 20 years going through the process, even after I was not involved in their developmental anymore. and they have to go for the medical exams, and they have to check them out for this,
Starting point is 00:17:52 and then blood work and background checks. And so if they are not doing that anymore, you're like, hey, you know, we'll sign you up now and find out later on that you were on some type of list somewhere or whatever. They've had to have been talking for a while because they wouldn't announce it. Unless later on, she either flunks the blood test because they find out that her septum is leaking through her brain or whatever, or, you know, she's on an international watch list of some kind. And then they, oh, sorry, never mind.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So I would have to think they've been talking for more than two fucking weeks. Doesn't that make sense? It does. You would think so. otherwise it says a lot that this happened that quickly and that she used Forbidden Door as a showcase. Typically, it's been a showcase of international talent for Tony to sign. In this case, she used it to get a bigger deal
Starting point is 00:18:55 technically in the long run, because even if Tony was offering her more money, if she becomes a top women's wrestler in WWE, it's a different world altogether. But she just wrestled the other night, apparently, in Guadalajara, her final match for CMLL, she beat Tessa Blanchard. they embraced. She kind of got a little emotional, it seems like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:16 she's the only winner knew was her last match there. Yeah. But she left, does that bother you at all? Her leaving with two titles, she left beating Tessa Blanchard, so beating, I would assume, one of the top foreign stars among the women wrestlers in Mexico, right?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Well, but here is something else that we all need to find out more about. Because if she was on good terms with this company in Mexico. Even if the WWE called her up and said, and the AEW thing hadn't happened, wasn't going on, whatever,
Starting point is 00:19:52 doesn't matter whether it was or wasn't. If the WWE calls her says, hey, you want a job, and she says, yeah, I do. I'm working here in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I got these two belts. They would usually say drop them, finish up. We'll fly you up here and do this. fucking testing, whatever. It's not like stealing her away from the company without her losing these belts means anything to the WWE.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It wouldn't have made anything to Vince. It doesn't mean anything to the new owners. It almost has to be she told them, I want to fuck out of here. I don't want to deal with these people anymore. I don't want to work for them ever again. I mean, what else could that be? I can't believe that they would, in Stamford, they would say to this young lady, it's not like they're stealing the AEW world champion.
Starting point is 00:20:51 You know, don't finish any dates, don't ever work for these people again, don't drop the belts. That's what Vince would do. But not for somebody like in another country. That's when he did the junkyard dog, right? I mean, again, a different example, but that's what junkyard dog did. He left without notice, without jobs, without anything. Well, no, that's good. I'm talking about this is another country and she ain't a junkyard dog to the American audience right now.
Starting point is 00:21:18 She had one match on a pay-per-view that was seen by, you know, 100,000 people, whatever the fuck. And by the way, you know, you say that and you're right, this may be the biggest shot WWE's taken at CMLL ever, right? was Mystico, Mistico left and became Sincara on his own. But this, I mean, this is a pretty, she was two champions there. This is a pretty big hit. Well, now, the WWE, are they,
Starting point is 00:21:50 have they recently, or are they about to run a house show in Mexico? I believe. I read this. Yeah, I believe they are going to do something. You got to know she's going to be there. That's where you should debut or have her make her first appearance. Well, we don't know it.
Starting point is 00:22:06 yet, but when it happens, whether she is or isn't, might tell us something, because did they sign her not with the theory that, oh, we got this girl away from AEW, but we got this girl away with a couple of belts from CMLL, and we're about to run Mexico more often. Is that a strategy? What I'm saying is, is that I can't believe that one of the reasons why that Stephanie, was so popular with the fans at Forbidden Door was because they just dislike Mercedes Moons so bad and in an annoying way.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Right? So one match couldn't, they wouldn't drop everything and say, fuck testing, fuck background check, sign this girl now, unless there had been contact going on, or unless they thought, Mexico, there's a market that she could be important,
Starting point is 00:23:06 in or something other than we gotta get this girl away from AEW when she wasn't even signed to AEW I've been it helped me connect other dots that you know the other thing is I think a lot of people forget because the advent of AEW you know one of the things it was was kind of a shot at WWE even if not by Tony
Starting point is 00:23:29 Khan and AEW itself the fans it was you know we don't we've had enough of WWE and Vince McBand we have this now people forget that you would have to imagine the majority of people who become professional wrestlers and get into the business in this day and age of their dream is to make it to the top of WWE because that's where you'd make the most money, that's where you'd have the most exposure, and quite frankly, that's what you've been watching on TV since you're a kid. So despite management, whatever is there, typically that's the goal of most wrestlers. It's not, I really want to be good at what I do and find a billionaire
Starting point is 00:24:04 and it's going to pay me lots of money, even though I won't necessarily mean anything to the business. Everyone wants to mean something to the business. If you make it in WWE, it's like making it in New York, so to speak. If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. If you make it in AEW, you can make it in Recita. I mean, it's not the same thing at all.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And I think that's one of the things you see with a thing like this, because Tony could offer her more money. And Tony needs wrestlers like that for his women's division if he's going to do it. But she wanted to go to WWE. And if you're going to do what you've got to do it, look at Okada. That's the opposite. Ocada is the example of someone that WWE would have wanted,
Starting point is 00:24:45 and he thought this was the better idea. He's going to get all this money. What's this going to do to his legacy? Someone like Stephanie Vakor, it appears she's trying to actually make a legacy. Well, and the legacy will be legendary, as long as it includes llamas. or Lydia. What was her name? It wasn't Lydia.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Lydia, oh, have you seen Lydia? That was. The tattooed lady. Louvia. Louvia. What does that mean? Hold on. Let me look it up.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Louvia. I think I may have a gardener that has showed up, by the way. Oh, good. I thought that was my sign. For once it's you and you're calling it first. Louvia translates to rain. So, she was her name is rain rain rain well she'll be right sooner or later all right but nevertheless i
Starting point is 00:25:41 say was stepney apparently i'm pronouncing it wrong this is the pronunciation ubia ubia uvia well no that's uvula no the uvia uvia uvula that's that thing it dangles down in your throat your uvia it went and also they can you can get diseases. You need to care. It would behoove you to care for your uvula. I will say some of the names in Alucro Libre, you're always like, what? Some of them you get like El psychedelico, okay, you know, winners. What? His name is Winners. But we'll see what happens with... What does that mean in Spanish? Winners? Hold on. Let me put this in. In Spanish, Winners translates to winners in English. We stole their word.
Starting point is 00:26:27 see if it weren't for the Spanish people and the Spanish-speaking people, there would be no winners in America. So take that, you anti-immigrant people. Well, there it is, and we'll stay on top of this. But Stephanie Vakor, going to WWE or going to NXT, and that'll be an interesting thing there. And I just also, I can't, I'm just going to say this one more time, I can't believe that there wasn't some type of ongoing contact before two weeks
Starting point is 00:26:57 ago that led to her, not even two weeks ago, now that I'm looking at the calendar, that led to this announcement. How does no one have her under contract? That's the other thing. And if you were a wrestler and you were about to appear on AEW's pay-per-view and you had no contract, would you call WWE and say you're about to do that? Most of them, no, I don't think the WWE would take their fucking calls. Tony's trying to bring in all these foreign wrestlers to fit his concept,
Starting point is 00:27:28 even though he's already signed up most of the foreign wrestlers that fit the concept. So at some point he can't sign everyone in the world. If he keeps doing that, he's going to use more people that end up getting signed elsewhere. And probably the only reason it hadn't happened so far is because he's so lousy at picking the foreign talent. Well, on that note, I will say that Tony Kahn has announced that Tomohiro Ishii will be with AEW for the rest of the summer. Oh, good Lord. Ishii? Well, Jim, let's take another fun ride, and I'm assuming that you probably paid closer attention than I did, but we'll find out because I don't remember exactly what I saw.
Starting point is 00:28:10 At WWE Raw this past week, another week from another locale, another packed house. Where were they? Well, let me talk to you. because I'll tell you exactly where they were, they were in the frenchiest part of Ontario. As I recall, Ottawa, Ontario, is farther up toward Montreal than Toronto is, or the other Ontario towns that people in America may be familiar with.
Starting point is 00:28:44 The Hamilton's and the Burlington's and the Furnhamtons and all those other tons. So I remember going there a time or two with the WWF and they're leaning toward the French area up there. You get a lot more French people. But guess who we got on first after the Money in the Bank recap on this fine episode of Monday Night Raw
Starting point is 00:29:13 like Mussolini in Ottawa. Oh, come on. so I tried to give it a little extra you know because I want to do no effort at all no enunciate there horrible but here comes punk
Starting point is 00:29:30 and have you noticed did you did this pop out at you of the screen he's 25 pounds heavier four shades darker in terms of the sun tan and looks 10 years younger that he did in AEW
Starting point is 00:29:45 it's like as as as Rodney would say hot rod it's like a heaviness has been lifted off of his shoulders. And you can see why would this is the this, I'm loving this like you said the other day about
Starting point is 00:30:03 punk and Drew then I'm have to wrestle. This is great shit. Now we got Seth in it and Seth's was fucking interesting too instead of being Seth Franklin and and I can't possibly
Starting point is 00:30:21 encapsulate what they said in the promo. Basically, Punk came out and congratulated scene on his retirement. I'd love to lace them up one more time with you. And then he said, you know, I'm here, but Drew McIntyre's not here. And did you hear what he said? I talked to Gary and Pizmo in the truck
Starting point is 00:30:43 and they agreed to play this tape. And he played the VTR of Drew McIntyre. tire that you referred to on the drive-thru. I hadn't seen it yet. No, not on the drive-thru. On the experience. We reviewed this show, but I hadn't seen that yet. But Drew comes out at the money-in-the-bank post-show extravaganza,
Starting point is 00:31:07 and he's pitching a fit, and they're trying to get him to back up, and he shoved a referee, and he elbows pierce in the fucking face, and Wade Barrett is in there. They're shoving and pull it apart. and let's stop down there for a second. I love that shit because it looked like actual goddamn adults at a UFC fucking pull apart instead of all the fake wrestlers that do the fake wrestling stuff that the modern kids do these days.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Did you notice the little subtle differences? Oh, I thought it was great. I don't know if I want to compare it to the UFC anymore. I don't really watch that. Well, but I mean, where they're still trying to take it as seriously as without doing cliche shit. It was like if some real shit happened on a real postgame show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:54 That's what it was. And I thought McIntyre, when he gets met, he's looking right at the camera and he's steaming, you believe him, and Pierce's reaction. Because that's an interesting thing. Here's the authority figure getting hit. And they got to do something with it. It wasn't too much. And it was kind of just right.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And Wade Barrett got involved. This was incredibly well done. and you know and that's the thing is that everybody is being serious and adult about this and I think that's part of the thing that's making it but they go back to punk in the ring and you know he did the promo there are consequences to your actions and you're looking at him and he laid the whole thing out and they were both fine but Drew was suspended also and he was here to ask Jack Tunney or Adam Pierce or whoever he's got to talk to
Starting point is 00:32:50 please unsuspend Drew McIntyre so I can get my hands on him and it did you hear the line I'll beat him up in the cheap seats there's people on the other side of this camera I'll beat him up up there
Starting point is 00:33:05 yeah he drops it and he but it's not a gotcha line where he's expecting a pop it's part of the fucking overall story and you know so anyways he laid that out perfectly and he has a case he is making sense this is why that he is doing this to Drew this is his reasonings and it's perfect right he's the baby face and then here comes Seth Franklin Rollins his music and this time while he's making his
Starting point is 00:33:42 entrance and the fans are singing and oh he oh whoa he's sits cross-legged on the fucking announced desk and takes the color headset and just says we're going to be here a while this takes so long the singing and it's et cetera and it's
Starting point is 00:33:59 again it's what you would do right if you were you know real and then Seth does his promo face to face with punk and he has a goddamn reason
Starting point is 00:34:15 right and punk even says hey i got no quarrel with you i'm trying to apologize they go back and forth it was tense and prickly and punk got it out where he said i'm sorry i apologize i didn't mean to screw anything up for you but because said that had been pushed him also he also said but because it's you i can't really be all that sorry it's fucking great
Starting point is 00:34:44 and Seth was serious and he fucking bows up and he he tells him that the world doesn't revolve around you and he has a goddamn legitimate reason to be pissed and he lays that out and that's why this is so and they're being pricks to each other while they're doing it but that's why this is so great because even
Starting point is 00:35:08 and they're both baby faces but they're both right and they've they articulated it because if they both hadn't have been on here it could have turned to mush but anyway so now Seth is mad at punk because punk took something from him so it's his turn to take something away from punk
Starting point is 00:35:31 I love that and again the intrigue we kind of just spoke about it the other day they got everything right in front of them with punk and Drew Rollins, we said, was right there for after Drew, but here he is being reintroduced into the mix right now. That was the original main event for, or not, I shouldn't say main event.
Starting point is 00:35:52 That was originally one of the big matches for WrestleMania before Punk got hurt, Punk and Rollins. There's been that thing there from the moment punk showed up again with Rollins yelling at, Fuck you! Phil! Fuck you! That was the most ridiculous thing ever.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Fuck you and your friend, Jim. and they teased it here. You would think him and Drew's going to be a multi-match thing. I hate for things just to become three-way matches for no reason. I don't know that they're hidden for a three-way here. I think now they've got Punk and Drew, but they've also potentially got Drew and Seth and punk and said they've got everybody. It's not just one is what I'm saying, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I guess that's really it because they don't need the work. World title. You got Drew away from that finally because now it's just him and Punk doing their thing. Rollins still wants it, but you have to think Goonther is about to have a run with it because I can't see any other reason why they would keep it on Priest over a Goonther. That one's going to be hard for me to swallow
Starting point is 00:36:56 if that happened. Yeah, I just don't see that possibly happening right now. And Goethe really hasn't even been around, so they're building it, just videos building him right now. But again, back to this, Punk and Drew should be a multi-match program. And you could do gimmick matches and build up to it.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It'll make sense. And the intensity is just there. It's great. And then the question is, when do they execute something with Rollins and against who? Execute something. They line it up against the wall. But then, so this was the big first segment, right? And, boy, everybody's got their game face on.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And then we get Jay Uso and Gable. and that was the transition to the spooky part of the program and I get honestly you know it was there you go we love Gable we know what we got with Jay so the match happened and Gable got an ankle lock and some of the lights start going out and then people go ooh
Starting point is 00:38:08 and then some more lights go out and people go ooh and then smoke comes into the ring oh and by the way the baby face Jay Uso rolled out and ran away as quickly as he could the smart man in there once again ran away how come Gables always cornered by these people
Starting point is 00:38:35 the fans are all there but Gable's like I have nowhere to go I'm in a dark alley what will I do how about just run into the crowd well Uso hit the spear by the way one two three before he ran out of the arena because when the lights
Starting point is 00:38:50 went out Gable just dropped his advantage but yeah he can run and then Gable is just he's just he's wandering even when he wakes up from the spear and he sees the smoke and he sees the ugly girl zombie
Starting point is 00:39:06 he rolls out and he's back he's back running he's back walking running where he's running, but he's walking, but he's backing. It's not even a male zombie. It's a woman. He's running from a woman zombie. It's not some big muscular zombie that's going to kick his ass. Well, no, no, no, because she's got teeth.
Starting point is 00:39:25 She's got a box. Knock the package out of her hand to kick her. Hold on now. I am not advocating for any kind of interspecies sexuality between humans and zombies here. You let her keep her box. No, not that box. The other box. She's got teeth, and if she's a zombie and she bites him, regardless whether he can beat her up or not,
Starting point is 00:39:48 then he will have his blood infected and become a brain-eating member of the living dead also. But if it happens at Raw, they'll probably cover the medical expenses. Well, you know, that's true, and they're doing a lot with stem cell these days. That's right. You never know what could happen. Well, anyway, he ran away finally, and she gave another, her boss, was given to the announcers. Michael Cole, I knew he was like that in his younger days, but I thought he'd calm down. The announcers who didn't run away?
Starting point is 00:40:20 No, nobody runs except Gable. And, you know, I forgot to even look because I was zipping through at this point when she's just going to hand this thing. I think it was to McAfee this time. Were the security guards passed out on the desk, or did you even notice at this point? They've done it so often. You know, I don't remember if they did it this week. I'm thinking they should have hammocks. Hammock, really?
Starting point is 00:40:47 You get the shot of the announcers are still alert and coherent at their desk, but the security guards that are supposed to guard them are asleep in hammocks. How about having the announcers in hammocks? The first broadcast team ever in hammock together. Well, you might have a hard time selling McAfee on that, in one of those love swings or something with Michael Cole. but anyway then we had broncson reed and pete done and bronceton won with a big splash one two three and then shamus ran out and beat him up because he was abusing his privileges
Starting point is 00:41:26 that was the whole first hour of raw brian we're at the nine o'clock hour the first segment was really really good and then it was like a e w they went right to the spooky segment We'll right from the really good right into the garbage can. Wait a minute. I thought I had a garbage can say, well, I guess that would be the garbage being emptied into the... I just want to see one of these baby faces turn around and yell, Stop playing that goddamn piano! Would you stop playing that piani?
Starting point is 00:42:02 The monsters are bad enough. Stop playing the piano! At least it's an easy beat to keep. If you've got a pulse, even if you're on so much, you're being... being... Obviously, the spooky woman came out with a box, presented it to Michael Cole,
Starting point is 00:42:21 we would later find out what was in that box. It was not a box of awesome. No. No, it was not. I would call this a box of disappointment what they were given there on that television program there. A box of sameness,
Starting point is 00:42:37 a box of regularity, a box of disappointment. You expected it, and that's what you got. same thing you got last time. That's terrible. Every time, Brian, that you get or I get or any of the listeners out there, get a box of awesome in the mail from boxof awesome.com, it's something different.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And you're surprised and you're delighted. It's like Christmas morning. You open it up like a young school girl with a new Barbie doll that you can pet on and dress up and put into stress. positions, if you like, even if you're a young man. Between the ages of six and nine. What is what? But nevertheless, our friends had bespoke post every month they come up with it.
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Starting point is 00:44:04 You know, if Chad Gable had been getting the box of awesome, he would have been prepared for anything, that came at him. Yes, he would have. He could have taken one of these knives and just and slayed those evil zombies with their brain-eating powers. Or just cut through the ropes and left. Yes, well, the ropes are easy to get through. Especially as athletic as he is. With a tie-knife, that tie-knife is sharp and you can sharpen it. Once you get out into the crowd, if they're trying to block you so they can see the zombie eat you, then you might have to be carving your way through a wall of human flesh.
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Starting point is 00:45:47 I really like the candles. Yeah, well, they're artistically shaped as well and attractive to the naked eye, but no, they smell better than they look as candles usually do. But these candles are really good as what I'm saying. Yes, they're good. They're good. And try them on Ritz Crackers. They're even better.
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Starting point is 00:46:30 JCE. Uh-huh, that too. Let's go back to the spanking known as Monday Night Raw. Well, Brian, before we do that, I've actually got some breaking news here. See, you do this. to me all the time. I've got to do it to you. This has just come across my desk. It's on the emergency line, the teletype. Did you hear about this? A pastor is facing federal charges after he allegedly hit his wife in the head during a flight when she got upgraded and he didn't. I have not seen
Starting point is 00:47:03 this story, no. Well, we do. We try to encompass news around the broad spectrum of what the human is all about, and this kind of epitomizes it. July 2nd, Alaska Airlines flight from Seattle to Anchorage, Alaska, Roger Allen Holmberg, Sr. and his wife were traveling for an event related to their ministry. And according to witnesses interviewed by Anchorage Airport Police, Holmberg asked his wife, how the hell did you get the upgrade? And she responded, I'm a Gold Point member, don't speak to me like that. Don't say hell, pastor. Well, then he allegedly
Starting point is 00:47:46 handed his phone to his wife from the aisle while telling her to read it and gestured with his middle finger. And then sometime after handing her his phone, Holmberg allegedly attempted to swing
Starting point is 00:48:02 toward his wife and struck the top of her head. Jesus. Another witness told the police that he went to the first class lavatory after the incident and the witnesses the witness I guess this sounds
Starting point is 00:48:18 like one of the flight people said if there are any further incidents with you we will put you in handcuffs so apparently Holmberg's wife told the police he struck her in the head with the back of his knuckles
Starting point is 00:48:32 knowing that she had epilepsy in contact with her head could cause a seizure Oh my God. Come on. The pastor, she claims, has a history of abusing her. It had previously broken her finger. How old are these people?
Starting point is 00:48:50 Well, hold on. It's set up here now, I think, did it, yeah, he, no? I guess they don't want to be agist, so they don't, I'm trying to see ages on these people. I don't have ages on these people. But anyway, so his defense for this, he's telling authorities he's upset that his wife had been upgraded to first class because he wanted her to travel with him and sit next to him
Starting point is 00:49:16 but he was not a violent person did not intend to hurt his wife he tapped her on the head in passing to get her attention which is you know something that we all do you know hey whack come here a second hey epileptic wife i'm talking to you boom i'm talking to you and he added that he and his wife had been going to marriage counseling. And apparently because his wife was disrespectful to him often and had anger issues. Of course. Oh, he told authorities of a previous incident where she allegedly grabbed his leg while he was driving and broke her finger.
Starting point is 00:49:54 It's a turn at the end there. I didn't expect that. Okay. See a sudden reversal. So, uh... Wait, how does that happen? She grabbed his leg and broke her finger in the process. Apparently, so while he was driving, could possibly off a cliff, I'm not sure. But anyway, I love, love, love, love. The love is in the air. I love the way that they've been going to marriage counseling to examine these issues about wrapping his epileptic wife on the head.
Starting point is 00:50:34 and apparently he was arrested upon landing and transported to the Anchorage Correctional Center. Anchorage. Alaska. Yeah, wow. Yeah. And that's what they said. I'll ask, what do you do to you, ma'am?
Starting point is 00:50:50 He has since been released, but cannot come within 100 yards of his wife. And now, sometime he said he couldn't come when he was right next to his wife. In his statement, oh, he also banned from. Alaska Airlines. There you go. So there you go. But just in case you're going to this fellow's church or ministry or whatever kind of
Starting point is 00:51:15 fucking three-card Monty deal they got going on. Roger Allen Holmberg, senior. Senior. And his wife. So if there's a junior, he's at least, you know, this is a middle-aged man, I would think at best.
Starting point is 00:51:32 If you have a kid at 20, By the time you're 40 Well, but do you become senior When the kids like fucking six Nobody knows the kids around Or is it like his, you know, senior Usually there's older people I thought senior was just if the person has the same name
Starting point is 00:51:48 Well, yes, but I mean, would you be being identified In court fucking documents As something senior if your kids like fucking four And you're a 28 year old dipshit Well, otherwise there's some sort of age classification and when you're allowed to be a senior when you're allowed. I'm not saying when you're allowed. I'm just saying when you recognize that any of these
Starting point is 00:52:08 fucking little rug rats and crumb snatchers even are around. Vince would have used that. Vince would have totally used that. No, no. After the age of 44, you can't be a junior. You know, you can't call it junior. I think until junior gets some kind of criminal record, they ought to just make his fucking dad for the point of the goddamn scrutiny here.
Starting point is 00:52:32 How's that counseling going, huh? So, pastor, tell us again about what you call tapping your wife on the head. Tell us about this. The counseling worked wonders because now he's just wrapping her on the head instead of breaking bones. On a plane in front of people. Yeah, apparently over the top of people. Really?
Starting point is 00:52:52 How tall was this man? He's in fucking, she's in first class. He's up there going, hey, how did you get this fucking seat, bitch? So, and again... handed his phone to his wife from the aisle. Was she on the window? Was he wrapping her,
Starting point is 00:53:09 this epileptic on the head over some businessman from Boise, Idaho? I'm sure the pastor has lots of good advice for people who need some advice for their life. His first three words next Sunday, your guy have sinned. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the problem right there.
Starting point is 00:53:29 We can predict what the next step is for him. The big apology. The two step. The two step. That's the next step for him, yes. God forgives those who forgive me. Anyway, speaking of forgiveness, should we go back to the raw? Might as well.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I feel like that's what Gary Hart would call it. I'm on the raw. Would you like some con, brother? All right, it was nine o'clock on the eastern part of the country. Eastern Time Zone, and there was Sammy Zane coming to the ring to do a promo. And I'm praising people. Boy, I feel positive.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Very positive, as she could say today. But I've got to praise people again. Sammy Zane is not only a good underdog baby face in his matches, he is a good underdog baby face in his promos. he gets it. He understands how to be him. And that's more difficult and not as prevalent as one would assume so, looking from the outside
Starting point is 00:54:44 end. You know, or he could have been a mute luchador, but I prefer this. And he did the promo about Bronbreaker and how he persevered at money in the bank. And, you know, it never count him down, blah, blah, blah. very good right and and again sounds genuine he's not out there droning the prepared remarks right and then brawn's music plays and he comes out and they're face to face and he won't say anything he's just stare at a hole in sammy zay he just staring him down brian lest is what he is staring him down like he's going to the chair and finally
Starting point is 00:55:31 You know, Sammy's like, are you going to say anything or would you come out here saying anything to me or what? He hands him, didn't hand it to him, he kind of gives him the microphone. And Braun. He got it out in Steiner fashion. He tried to say something to the effect of, I came out here to look the only man in a locker room who's beating me in the eye. And it took him around, he went around his elbow to get to his wrist, but it sounds natural coming from him because he's a Steiner.
Starting point is 00:56:05 And, you know, he's very philosophical. He's about, hey, you know, I could say I want to rematch whatever, but there's no reason for me to get a rematch. He's kind of wandering around the ring. So I've been thinking, and he just drops the microphone and turns around and fires the retro rockets, however the fuck he does this, and spears the fuck out of Sammy Zane. And boom, and he gets all.
Starting point is 00:56:31 him and here come the agents and the referees and they can't hardly pull him off and they're trying and finally he starts to leave and he does the around the ring spear and i know it's so cool and that this is one of the things that i'm willing to let go they never use that camera angle for anything other than that move so why do they they they got a camera of potentially a cameraman up there for that could they cut to it every once in a while, but I don't care because it looks so cool. But have you noticed that? I hadn't thought of it before, but you're right. So it's kind of like, you know, that some element of this may have been predetermined.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Anyway. So boom, and he does the around the ring spear, and now out comes Elyah. Ilya, oh, Elya, oh, have you seen Elya? he sells his ass off and he's pissed off because he and Braun got their thing going on right and they're going to have a match later tonight so
Starting point is 00:57:38 is the more on that later type of deal but your thoughts so far on Braun continuing to fucking look great and then getting a star push down correctly for once well again he lost the match at the pay-per-view and then afterwards you didn't see it, but Sammy did a promo putting him over. Just about how he underestimated Braun, even though Braun lost.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He was talking about him almost like he won. And then this thing here, I love the moment where he dropped the mic and just tackled him. No one does that. No one does that. That's what you do. And the shot around Riggs side again, now that I think of it because you said it, you're right. But I hadn't thought of the fact that they never use this camera angle unless. Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I'm not saying don't do it, but I'm saying, figure another purpose for it, so it's not just that, right? But anyway, little things, little things. Yeah, because it is, by the way, a cool angle. I like the idea of seeing wrestling from different camera angles that are reasonable, that we haven't seen wrestling from for the last, you know, 30 years. So I'm open to it. Plus, they can shoot all the whole building because there's people in all the chairs.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Yeah. but beyond that I really like it really good well and in that and we should say that then they took an intermission the intermission was finn jd and carlito against miss and truth and brown strong man and then you know they gave us a little bit more on the punk and pierce situation when basically pierce said i'm going to call drew and see if i can set up a meeting about this and you need to stay home next week Heal up, let me deal with Drew McIntyre, got punk to agree to that.
Starting point is 00:59:29 But of course, we don't know. He could be home next week, and that gives Drew the opportunity to do something without, you know, them having to do something again, or he could be there to do something again. And that's a good part. We don't know now, but either is okay because the other guy's going to do. Maybe next week Drew does shit with fucking Seth. Right? So they can have this non-monogamous relationship, is what I'm saying. Instead of just the same thing every week.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Speaking of non-monogamous relationships, did you see the Judgment Day catching Liv, humping Dominic's leg? I did see this. I know you don't like her, but I think Liv Morgan's been really good in this role, and it's made me watch these segments. She's been great.
Starting point is 01:00:24 But Tim, we're going to have to watch her wrestling. real Ripley. I'm okay with that. It's Rea Ripley. It'll be great. She looks like Rea Ripley ought to be able to pop her like a pimple. You're right. She's going to have to wrestle a smart match. Well, and see what you're asking? Well, I think... Never the left. I think she will. I think she'll play head games with someone, get them to want some of that ass. And then all of a sudden...
Starting point is 01:00:51 Oh, now, now, do you have to just be crass and bring the whole show into the gutter? Come on, that's what it is. The whole, that's the whole angle right here. You had head and ass in the same fucking... I wasn't even thinking about the head. Well, listen. You got me off track now. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:01:08 You want to order a hamburger? No, listen. All right, shut up now. Just, just don't beat. Now, you just, you watch out there, fella. Watch out for what? Well, I'll tell you, because Damien Priest in that segment knew something that Dominic did not know.
Starting point is 01:01:26 and we didn't find out what it was at that point, but Dom left after saying he's putting it into it it and Carlito making remarks about the the rigidity of his phallic organ and things and such. It's just, it's an 80s team movie. It's an 80s team movie. Just those guys reaction in the doorway. Carlito with his big hair.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Oh, then the two heads coming around the side of the, you know, yes, but that's why I'm saying, everybody belongs except. priest if we're supposed to think he's a world champion. He's too fucking mild mannered to be. Drew got some goddamn edge to him and win. Everybody's loving him now. And Priest is refereeing the goddamn Cats and Jammer kids.
Starting point is 01:02:14 For all you fucking non-agenarians out there. Or for those of you didn't get that version, the captain and his kids. But with Ria Ripley back, do you use that as something to, reunite them together? Obviously he knew something because those are the two leaders of judgment day, or do you start the dissolving of all this, or at least to get him away from the whole thing? Well, it appears that at some point, priest is or maybe already being considered a baby face in some circles, and Ria definitely is, so that's why they're in contact, I don't fucking know. I'm just,
Starting point is 01:02:56 saying the silliness everybody likes a good hard on joke and yeah da-da but with priest in with these these more trivial pursuits you know that's that's what i'm saying speaking of trivial pursuits anyway is there anything more to say about the beau dallas vhs interview did it sounds great what Does it mean what's going to happen as a result of it? And is this going to, is anything going to happen? You know as much as I do, and you like this as much as I do. And every time, every time, multiple times with Ray Wyatt and now, we would hear from certain fans who would say, just give it time.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I know you don't see it going anywhere yet, but just give it time. He's saying these really intense things that make it all make sense, and then nothing happens. Um, there's been one zombie on TV. Where are the other four or three, whatever it was? Where'd they go? That's an easy work schedule, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:07 I hate, I hate this stuff. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. What is it going to lead to? Is it leading to a bowl? A bowl. Is it leading to, I wish it led to a bowl right now.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I could use a bowl right outside. Is it leading to a bow Dallas run, like a push? again with like spooky or if the gimmick is that they're not spooky they're pretending to be and he's gonna take it all away then what the hell has been going on on this show it's just awful I hate it tremendously well you do me a favor will you make me a promise just hold your right hand up and your left hand red right foot green whatever promise me scouts honor were you ever a scout I was a Cub Scout, but I gave up after like one year. Do they have any honor? Are you too young to lie then,
Starting point is 01:05:01 or do they have to take an oath? I can't speak for the rest of my den, but I think I was a pretty honorable scout, yes. Well, and okay, then promise me Scouts honor, as soon as they make any of this clear, you will be here on the program to explain it to me. What the hell is that? Do you mean, I have to watch it, but you don't? No, I mean, it, what? I'm watching it or not, I don't understand it. And I'm not going to understand it when they make it all clear. So when they make it all clear, then I want you to explain it to me. So I have to understand it to explain it to you so you understand it.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yes. How is that going to happen? Once they make it all clear. They're never going to make it all clear. Well, people say they're going to make it all clear. So here's what we'll make it all clear. Let me know when the coast is clear. Here's what we'll make it all clear.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Stick on that wide shot. They use for when Bronbreaker runs around the ring so we could spot zombies in the crowd. There's another usage of that camera. You know, Arthur, are they going for the zombie demographic to the point where if they get like 12% of the crowd is zombies, they'll put brains on the concession stand menu?
Starting point is 01:06:14 I don't know, but again, it goes to the whole idea if Bo Dallas is, you know, this great talker, and I'm not saying he isn't or anything, I just don't care enough to pay attention to this stuff. No, I mean, I mean, this would be complete dress. in an entirely different way if it was anybody else doing it. He's doing a good job of doing
Starting point is 01:06:31 whatever the fuck it is he's doing. But is this, my question, I guess, is this as effective as him just standing in the ring with a microphone right now because he would have the audience through a number of circumstances and telling this story in the ring? Again, I know it's all about this visual end of it
Starting point is 01:06:46 and they have this vision and it's all these things and that's what started under Bray Wyatt. But that's the thing that drives it away from being wrestling. And again, it was right after the CM Punk segment, a wrestling segment followed by Friday to 13th.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And then back to wrestling. If it's... Why is Chad Gable the only person on the show like who has a problem with this? Well, he apparently, he's like the old deal with the cat with the witch. He's the familiar. Isn't that is it the familiar
Starting point is 01:07:16 where he's the conduit between you and the spirit world? Well, every time Gable's around, he opens up the goddamn atmospheric continuum them to where these creepy crawlies can fucking creep in, crap and creep out. Like, is this another part of the WWE Scooby-Doo crossover? Can we get the mystery?
Starting point is 01:07:39 You know, there is a son of a bitch in the subdivision down the road for me that has a mystery machine. Really? Over on the other side of the, it's at a goddamn, not even the sub, past the subdivision, but it wouldn't make any sense to you anyway, but it's outside a goddamn paint and body and car apparatus. This description is a mystery.
Starting point is 01:08:05 They work with cars and work on cars and deal with various automotive means of transport, and there's a mystery machine. Or at least it has been, I haven't seen it lately, but I haven't been by there. You want me to go by there and check? I can be right back. Hey, you know, speaking of cartoons,
Starting point is 01:08:20 want to hear something sad. I mean, not sad, but just, a pain of the ass. I've gotten my son, who's about to turn three, in the underdog, who's airing on Me TV tunes. The problem is, underdog's on for, like, the first two minutes, and then it's nonstop everything else, and then finally back to underdog at the end.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Not enough underdog. Oh, is that the end of the story? That's the end of the story. I was trying to end of the second. I thought you were going to say so to make sure there was more underdog. I purchased a DVD collection of nothing but underdog to feed my child's hunger for the underdog. There's no Blu-ray.
Starting point is 01:09:03 If there was a Blu-ray, I'd purchase a Blu-ray. I have the DVD set, I think, from years ago at Sony, because we were the distributors. Well, then just to break down and play a DVD. I want a Blu-R, whatever. Oh, you, format snob you. Oh, listen to who's talking, Mr. V-A-Beta is best. Well, it was.
Starting point is 01:09:24 But anyway, you want your son to have the entertainment, because you know what they say. When criminals in this world appear and break the laws that they should fear and frighten those who see and hear the cry goes out from far and near for underdog, underdog. Speed of lightning, roar of thunder, frightening all who rob or plunder. Underdog. Ah, underdog. He loves that. The problem is trying to get him to sit through.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I think I finally got him at least a little bit interested in Tennessee Tuxedo. But that's the problem. It goes from underdog song right to Tennessee Tuxedo or King Leonardo. Chumley is a very lovable character. A Tennessee Tuxedo is lovable looking and it's, you know, it's, hey, stay here. It's just, get smart. What's his name? Don Adams.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Don Adams. Yeah. Missed it by that much. That's Tennessee Tuxedo. Is that a good voice for a kid's cartoon? soon? Well, it just depends. Now, say, Chamaie. Why are we talking about this?
Starting point is 01:10:31 I don't know. Would you like to hear the second verse of Underdog? Yeah, do you know it? When in this world the headlines read of those whose hearts are filled with greed and something, something, oh my shit, I write this wrong with lightning speed comes Underdog. Oh, my shit. I don't think that was part of the song. That third line escaped me. But anyway, speaking of... That part where Underdog took a shit mid-flight. Yeah, mid-flight, I'll tell you what, that's why they had to do something about underdog
Starting point is 01:10:59 because the, and see, the thing is, then the pastor hit him on the head. When super, well, when super people shit, it's invulnerable shit also, right? So falling from a height like that, Superman had issues with that too. It would, boom, it smite a motherfucker. You think a superhero with superpowers that their excrement would have powers to or just have what exactly are you saying? No, I'm not saying it'd have a. power, probably really strong stink.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Maybe that would be it, but it would be invulnerable. Because if they're bullet impervious, that means their shit would be invulnerable too, right? I don't know. It would be harder than Chinese arithmetic. That's an automatic thing. Is their urine invulnerable as well? I bet you if you got a golden shower from fucking Superman had put your eye out. Does Superman go to the bathroom?
Starting point is 01:11:50 Well, one would assume that the... Some krypton. But yes, but the evacuation process for someone who's obviously, if not mortal, at least mortal shaped. And Lois kept coming back for something, so we know there's something in there. And what else would you do with it besides fucking piss? So you're thinking like a human, though. He's not a human. He's from Krypton.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And plus, you've seen Superman eat in the various comic books. and... Well, yeah, okay, that's true. Well, it'd be the same fucking thing. And, and, you know, so therefore it's got to go somewhere. What does Batman do if mid-crime he has to go to the bathroom? Oh, he just has Robin fill in for him, doesn't he? Until he...
Starting point is 01:12:41 Batman could pretty much... He could go right there also, though, because he's wearing dark colors. Do you think Batman needs Robin, or can Batman exist without Robin for you? No, I think Batman needs Robin. Robin just as, you know, to have the weakness, like the baby face manager. And that way they can get heat on the baby face manager and Batman can come to the rescue. What do you think of Jack Kirby stuff at DC? It wasn't the same for me.
Starting point is 01:13:12 And the new gods thing, I still have like probably 16 copies of New Gods number one because it was supposed to be this fucking giant goddamn success. It wasn't the same to you in terms of the characters. created or? Yeah, he was, he was, it was like an NWA guy going to the WWF and it just didn't seem like it fit for me. You know, it was, the Marvel universe was Kirby. Kirby and Ditko and Bears, oh my.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Who do you think deserves the credit for Spider-Man? Ditko or Stan Lee? Well, now we've gone over that. Stan may have been a little bit of a braggart. We've, there's been a little. lots of contradicting testimony. I don't want to slander a legend who's recently gone on to his great reward
Starting point is 01:14:02 after being apparently manipulated by his close family for years. So let's just say that a lot of the people that also created stuff there, Stan didn't have a lot to do with it. Who do you think had more women? Stan Lee or Stan Lane?
Starting point is 01:14:19 That's not a contest. You don't know that. Stan Lee may have been a real Coxville. on the Upper West side. Oh, for heaven's sake. Are you out of your mind? And Stan Lane will live to be 98 or whatever Stan Lee was.
Starting point is 01:14:34 So, well, I guess he's done now. He's married. So I don't want anything like that to get around. But still, I think his total probably approaches Will Chamberlains. In the 80s, because of your background, like as a kid who liked comics and collected comics, but you really weren't in the same place in the 80s
Starting point is 01:14:53 as things were happening. But did you ever check out anything happening in independent comics? Like when Eastman and Laird created Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles before they became like commercialized and everything. Had you heard about it or anything? No. I'm like, what? They're turtles and they do what? Kung Fu?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Um, once that I got, and people talk about the wrestling bubble now. The only reason you're in a wrestling bubble now, except if you, unless you work for the WWE or, or attempt to do your job for AEW, probably. The bubble back then was every day of your life from, anywhere from 9 o'clock in the morning till noon, you're at a car or a plane until fucking midnight that night, six and seven days a week. You know, I was reading people time and newsweek,
Starting point is 01:15:50 just something I could stick my head in in the car and the plane to keep up with general things in the world, but I didn't have time to, I didn't see any 80s television, prime time. Something that I never missed until I got on the road with wrestling, and then for like 10 fucking years, I didn't know what the fuck was going on between 8 and 11.
Starting point is 01:16:11 You're big on Seinfeld now, but did you watch it actually when it originally aired? No. And as a matter of fact, I remember specifically when I actually We took that time off from WCW in What was it, April and May of 1989 That's when I discovered cops
Starting point is 01:16:35 Because that's the Fox Network had just debuted And that was the first season I went told the boys next time we went somewhere I said, yeah, they've actually got the camcorder there And the cops are beating a shit out of these people And they're blah blah blah because that was very new for television at the time. Everything on Fox, that America's Most Wanted,
Starting point is 01:16:56 was in the early run of Fox shows, Married with Children. Married with children. Christina Applegate. Well, you're like the exact pervert. They make fun of on the show with Christina Applegate. Exactly. You know, so that, there you go.
Starting point is 01:17:12 And, but, but, but yes, so that was like, oh, shit, I'm watching television at night. on a weekday for the first time in seven years. What about the Simpsons? Probably about the same time. I had that year transition between WCW and Smoky Mountain, and then I'm fucking crazy again for five years. And yes, I know people are,
Starting point is 01:17:36 so, well, the VCR with the VCR was recording fucking wrestling. And so point being, that was, where I was going with this, was that was the wrestling bubble. Now I can understand the production departments being overworked in these companies and or the various office personnel. But if the wrestlers think this is fucking overworked when, you know, they're two days a week, they might work TV or whatever, and then they're, you know, that liberty to pursue a life of religious freedom, you know, that ain't a fucking bubble. You literally had no time to live. So that was the bubble. Would you like to bubble back to Braun Breaker?
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah, I was going to say, we just did to the review of the Uncle Howdy segment exactly what they do to the wrestling show. Well, there you go. Took in a completely different direction that meant nothing and was not resolved. And now back to our regular programming. Elia Dragonov against Braun Breaker. And as I started watching this match, I realized another reason why it's a pleasure watching Braun Breaker perform is because the next time he has a match, and of course it would probably fuck up in the first minute, but just try. Imagine he's working on a Crockett show in the 80s with the television set up or world-class wrestling in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:19:14 you know, every move he does, it's a modern match, but it would have been good in the 80s, not out of place in either era, because it just seems natural to shit that he would do. It's not just stuff that would have happened back then, and it's not a lot of Gaga that doesn't need to happen now. He's unique, and that this shit would have worked anytime,
Starting point is 01:19:43 because it's his shit. It's reminiscent of both Steiner's. But it, you know, do you see what is, am I making the point I'm trying to make? I think so. I think you've made it a few times. Well, thank you. Then I'm repeating myself is what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Elia does a lot of stuff that has been popularized in the modern era of wrestling over the last several years, but bronze shit would work anywhere at any time. and it still, it doesn't date itself. Just every once while I get together as friends. The one thing I wish Elya wouldn't spin so much when he's doing the swinging, turning, kicking,
Starting point is 01:20:28 fuck, it makes me dizzy. But I really didn't make notes on this match because I just enjoyed watching it. Elya, again, underdog, sells like crazy, he's got the over-the-top facials, he's a nut. We love him for it. He's this generation's Ruff House Fargo.
Starting point is 01:20:47 That's what he is. And finally, they're down on the floor, and Bron Brigger just picks a fucking giant announced desk chair up and fucking flings it at him. Boom, DQ. And then gets back on him and he's getting heat on him, but here comes Sammy with the agents and the referee is trying to hold him back.
Starting point is 01:21:07 And Sammy makes a comeback and clotheslines him over the top. But he pulls Sammy out and throws him into post and chucks him over the desk and Elias back up and gets on Braun and Braun throws him over the fucking desk. And everybody's trying to call me. This is great. Is this a record for number of weeks in a row that a guy has been in an actual goddamn wrestling angle on this television program and I don't know how long? You know, I don't want to say that because I think it's been a lot of guys since Triple H took over. They have multi-week angles, even if it's not the big one that everything is going to be focused on. Everything is laid out logically in terms of timeline.
Starting point is 01:21:57 But it's also, it's just wrestling angles. It's just simple stuff that you can understand that has been done before in many times, many ways, but you put different people and a different twist on something in a different place and it becomes new. That's what I'm saying. These work has wrestling angles. You'd have seen these anywhere
Starting point is 01:22:21 and this is the way you get a fucking heel over. And this is the way you get heat on an issue between, again, three people. Because Sammy is higher on the food chain or on the pecker order than nearly is. Ilya's new, but he's kind of the,
Starting point is 01:22:42 I can see them having an alliance where Sammy's the wizened old underdog and Ilya is the eager young underdog. And they're both perfect for Braun to beat up because he looks big. If he was beating up Bronson Reed, it would, no. So very good, very good. Hold on here one second.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I'm... There we go. And we just saw, them a few weeks ago, so. Sounds like a future farmer association speech. But anyway, so that's what's going on there. And then the rest of the program, there was a long girl's six-man tag team match.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Did you see any of that? I don't remember a second of it, so I don't think so. There was 16 different women in the match? No, I said a girls' six-man tag team match. Oh, oh. Well, it's not six-man tag, if it's women. Well, yeah, I mentioned they were in it. Yeah, I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Yeah, well, they're good. So anyway, then the main event... Oh, no. I'm hoping they come get me. Come get me, zombies, please. Well, they're not going to do that. They feed on brains. Hey.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Anyway, the main event of this particular program was Dominic Mastidio and his mixed tag team partner Liv Morgan against Ray Mastidio and his mixed tag team partner Zalina Vega. And they had a nice match, and it's a long three-hour program, and finally, basically Liv's treachery
Starting point is 01:24:29 led to Ray Mysterio being crouched on the top rope and splashed by Dominic 1, 1, 2, 3, son defeats the father and they're overcome by emotion or live and Dom and so they hug and then Dom realizes oh my God
Starting point is 01:24:47 what have I done and Liv pulls him down on top of him and they are about to do the Humpty Hump and suddenly Ripley's music plays that's who Damian Priest knew the thing
Starting point is 01:25:03 that who knew the who voodoo that is the person that priest talked to on the phone and the thing that Damian priest knew that Dominic didn't know was that Ria Ripley is in the building and waited to list very second
Starting point is 01:25:19 apparently to come out and storm out and stalk out and live, ran away out through the crowd up into the arena and Ria Ripley starts to get in the ring
Starting point is 01:25:35 and there's Dominic and my DVR froze. And am I told that other people had the same thing where they could have had a little bit more time at the end of this broadcast? Or did I, was I out early? Oh, I don't know. I haven't heard anyone else.
Starting point is 01:25:53 What did you see? I just remember them kind of squaring up or squaring up facing off. Whatever the relationship is, they were there. Well, it was on the socials, the social people. people's media said, well, they ought to manage their time better for once the WW instead of AEW because
Starting point is 01:26:13 it cut off early because apparently Dominic was trying to follow. Rio walked out on him and he's trying to follow her and apologize. Oh, see, I heard the other one. I heard Dominic surprised everyone by grabbing the mic and saying, what's this shit I hear about? You getting married? And then she left because she was embarrassed and he was he wanted to yell at her some more.
Starting point is 01:26:34 That was in the back in front of the boys. is what, because they all bought it too. But there was wrong. So who's she going to be mad at? Dominic or Liv? Liv, lives obviously manipulating it. On camera manipulating the whole situation. And, you know, what man can fight that?
Starting point is 01:26:52 Dominic can't. Well, oh, come on now. I mean, Sarah, you mean to tell me that if you were beholden and betrothed to and promised to and going steady with and regular pals with
Starting point is 01:27:10 Ria Ripley that if you had the opportunity to mess around with Liv Morgan that you would succumb to your baser instincts, sir? If I was a wrestler? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:27:20 You can never trust a wrestler around another woman when their woman's not around them. Absolutely. That's lesson one. You can never trust a woman or never trust a wrestler when a woman's not around
Starting point is 01:27:30 and they're around a woman is what she just. When their woman, when their woman is not around but they're around another woman. That's right. That's it. Game on.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Well, it depends on how many curves they've got. But anyway, the point is, I think that certainly, Ria Ripley is not only going to be mad at Liv Morgan, but also she is going to be highly upset at Dominic Mysterio leading to the team of Dominic and Liv Morgan in a handicap match with Ria Ripley, which is the only way I'll buy that either one of them can whipper. Well, the other thing, I guess, is they've teased stuff in the past with the rest of Judgment Day and live.
Starting point is 01:28:13 So we'll see, you know, what happens with Judgment Day as we go forward here. But that was Raw. Rio Ripley is back. And I guess the end of the dry-humping on Raw. Well, there could be more humping. We just don't know which one's going to hump who. So we got to stay tuned for that also. Yes.
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Starting point is 01:34:08 because we have other things we need to do. We need to do. Yes. A.E.W. Dynamite last night from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. A big house. I think they had around 5,000 people there, maybe slightly above that. Well, it's Stampede Week, you know.
Starting point is 01:34:26 There's a lot of bulls, I would assume. Well, wrestling is traditional. Stampede Week, the Owen Hart tournament. I'm sure they got a bunch of local publicity. So they actually, they accomplished their mission for once. They got some people in the building. You ever seen any of those pictures of like the old Stampede parades from like the 70s? It would be like a couple of the heart kids and Andre the Giant.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. And there's one year, I think they tried to have the ring and it broke down halfway through or whatever. the ring on a trailer and the fucking axle broke or something. But that way, it's the biggest thing in Calgary. I didn't, I never understood
Starting point is 01:35:07 stampede wrestling as more than a you know, oh my gosh, like they're stampeding until you know, I've gotten a business and got some element of understanding of Calgary, Canada and that they, it's like an old west flavor in Canada
Starting point is 01:35:24 that we would think of from New Mexico or Texas or the Wild West or whatever. Of course, this was in the 19-fucking 40s. They were still in the... You know, they actually all carried six shooters and had gun fights on Main Street
Starting point is 01:35:40 until about... In 1947, that was outlawed by the Prime Minister. That's the thing about Stu Hart's accent that always gets me. You can never figure out what exactly it is. No, it's a family accent. It's not a Canadian or a regional. It's a family accent.
Starting point is 01:35:57 There's elements of the Canadian, you know, A and all that type of thing, but the whole Stu Hart family is, it's a Stu, it's a heart family accent. Well, this show, despite Dr. Helen, Dr. Helen, Dr. Martha Hart's. God damn it. Dr. Martha Hart's appearance, this did not have a heart family accent, this show. Well, there were, there were some accents on it. And I'll tell you what, I know I'm being charitable on this program. I don't know why. But I'm going to talk about something else that I liked that came to the top of the program
Starting point is 01:36:38 before the whole thing went to shit again. It seems to be a thread amongst both companies. It's just that the WWE has so much farther to fall before they get to the DREC level. But they did a cold open for once instead of just, here we are in the arena and here's somebody coming down the aisle, because we're afraid you're going to switch out. They had a package that told the story, MJF's promo, MJF's actions with Garcia and Osprey,
Starting point is 01:37:08 with his own words as the voiceover, it edited, obviously, from the longer full length of the interview that he did. But he articulated this thing perfectly, and the video backed it up and it gave it even more impact and you see God for once, it's like they meant to fucking do this. And it may make more sense as an angle, as a wrestling angle,
Starting point is 01:37:36 to try to draw money and get some interest than anything they've, if not ever done, done in a long time. And then the announcers were sock-faced, Tony Chivani and Nigel McGinnis, because the story is that Jericho had the EVPs banned TAS because he was rude to whatever the fucking thing was. I hope Taz is okay and just took a fucking week off rather than have to go up there
Starting point is 01:38:11 and put up with this shit any further. But why are they making Nigel be just a complete heel to the point where he's not credible at all because he's just taken the contrary viewpoint no matter what the fuck is said? And the sun will come up tomorrow. Well, not if I have anything to do with it. Not if I get off this yacht yelling here. See, I like the happy Robin Leach, Nigel, more than the,
Starting point is 01:38:38 I'm a heel, so I have to be a heel all the time, Nigel. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why he's doing this, because it's not like Taz does it. He wasn't replaced anyway. But here's where I'm going to be nice, because out came the high, priced acquisition Will Osprey for an in-ring promo
Starting point is 01:39:01 after what happened last week after the things MJF said blah blah blah can he I'm thinking can he hold his end up in a verbal conflict with MJF
Starting point is 01:39:16 and to be honest I like what he did because he didn't come out there and try to be cute and blah blah blah, blah, he sat on the top turnbuckle and he talked to him fairly normally, not over the top. But
Starting point is 01:39:33 he had a couple good lines. There was no direction to it. Well, that's the thing is it meandered, but I liked his tone. But at first he said, MJF, you want to blame the people and this or that, well, you've got ADD.
Starting point is 01:39:53 I got ADHD. And it doesn't give an excuse to be a little prick. And by the way, what are all these fucking illnesses? There's a great line, but what are all these fucking illnesses? I don't fucking know what all these fucking illnesses are anymore. But the thing is, it was like he was workshopping it.
Starting point is 01:40:16 I agree that he went to a couple places twice, and he didn't really build his like, MJF doesn't like me because he gave three reasons. and the last one was probably the flattest one of the bunch. But he's trying. And it's just the accent. I know it's some people find it endearing, but is it hard to, is it hard for an American ear to get what he's cooking?
Starting point is 01:40:51 I was having that same thought because I like this intensity. a few times he had a really good line and then he kept going or he didn't tie it together well it was all over the place while the crowd sat there and listened and sometimes popped there's something there
Starting point is 01:41:11 but I think he needs to be produced and I don't know who's going to do it there who's going to teach him how to do a promo there and he's never had to do promos like he has to do now on American TV if I was him I'd ask the guy he's working with MJF, I'll teach you an extra flip if you'll fucking work with me on my timing.
Starting point is 01:41:31 I think it was good, but he needs to learn, you know, actually how to go out there and start here and end up here and make it work in the middle. I don't think he has that yet. But I must say, being a nice and fair individual, there's more there than I had been a feared of if he, you know, if he can just try to start being more legitimate and not cute like the kids try to be cute over there these days. And then they did the deal and I don't understand this. He cut to promo on MJF obviously.
Starting point is 01:42:06 It then calls him out and the music plays and there's no MJF. And then, but at the same time Nigel told old sock face when, you know, he's, I guess he's not coming out. Well, stop playing this game. You know MJF's not here tonight. So just make the guy. goddamn lead announcer to look like a fucking complete
Starting point is 01:42:29 which he is but a complete liar and a shill and a worker why are they why is anybody believing it at this point they always come on out here play music and a guy doesn't come and the announcers would know
Starting point is 01:42:48 one would think the guy's been in the building but having said that he appears on the screen and I don't know if this was still the era of the after mags Brian would the headline
Starting point is 01:43:07 be is MJF the De Niro of wrestling I can see Bill doing that, ain't you? Yeah, De Niro, Jerry Lewis Hey, come on Well, because it's Bill, it's Bill. Well, I didn't say he had to imitate him
Starting point is 01:43:24 I'm just talking about writing the headline. No, he just, he has so much inflection. He gets so much cross in the short period of time. And you know, if he couldn't, if he couldn't
Starting point is 01:43:40 be there in person, then this is probably the best thing that he could have done is just to follow up last week on the screen, so we get to hear from him. Now
Starting point is 01:43:57 here's the goddamn deal I don't understand. is that he challenges Will for an international title match next week on television and Osprey accepts. So is this, have they false booked this to do an angle that will lead to, one would assume, Wembley Stadium or some venue or show, then it would be worth it to give that away, or are they just going to put it on fucking television? that doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:44:38 So the promo, let's talk about that for a second, but the promo, you've registered your opinion on Will's effort, but I think MJF, if he wasn't going to be there live and they can't be at each other's throats every way, again, C Punk and McIntyre. They can't do it every fucking week. MGF's was about as good as it could be.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Yeah, and right now it's, as noisy as it could be. The timing's perfect. I'll talk through it. I hear your pit sounds like a bunch of Sherpas bringing you up the mountain. No, the MJF promo was good. Obviously he wasn't there and I guess there are some limitations with when they
Starting point is 01:45:20 could film him and what they did, but personally it was a little too stagey, the setup in the background. I would like to see him like that just like in a lounge or something. Something to look real. Not like... Oh, you're saying he's got a drinking problem. He's always hanging out at the bar or the lounge or something like that. I'm saying they had the nice red lighting in the background,
Starting point is 01:45:40 like every other lit segment in the backstage area on AEW. It should have looked a little different. He wasn't there. Most of the talent, I will agree in AEW. Most of the talent is lit. All right, I tried, ladies and gentlemen. Even with gardeners behind me, I tried. But of course, Jim Cornett just doesn't want this to be a good show today.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Why did it change its tone like that? Hold on. Don't make me change my tone, um, Pismo. Your other question, you know, the Hogan Goldberg question,
Starting point is 01:46:17 I guess, is a way to look at it. Giving this away for free on TV. Is next week, the show they give it away on, is that Nashville? No, blood and guts is the,
Starting point is 01:46:28 24th, correct? Okay, so it's not even that show. You're giving it away on TV, and then, On this show, someone won a title match for Osprey's title, correct? Well, yeah, no, somebody won a title match for Swerve's title. The winner of the Owen gets the main event at Wembley, and then later on they clarified for the AEW World title,
Starting point is 01:46:54 and then they clarified to against Swerve Strickland. What did Pac-Wan? Pac-won an international title match. That's right. Is he the international champion or the Continental Champion? Who? Osprey. No, he's the international champion.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Oh, so Pac-1-0 title match with him? Was it at Wembley or anywhere? Who's the Continental champion? Ok, okay. Well, then who's the Ring of Honor world champion? Mark Briscoe. But they just unified that whole thing with the winner of the champion carnival. That was the Ring of Honor strong championship. and another couple of championships.
Starting point is 01:47:37 That was Kingston. That was Kingston. That became the Continental Championship, but then the other outside of AEW Championships just decided they would keep their titles and do their own thing. And there'll be another tournament next year. But again, we're talking about Wembley and what they're setting up and that they're giving this away on TV in a week.
Starting point is 01:47:56 What do you think of that? This is, you know, if you think about AEW matches that can make money, is there anything bigger than this I say right now because there's nothing else right now but right now or even if they give it a build for a few months is there anything bigger than MJF versus Osprey right now do you I don't see it
Starting point is 01:48:17 and see what I said earlier maybe they've false booked if they're going to do an angle maybe and I have no foreknowledge and this I'm sure ain't going to be it but some variation of the old deal where they're supposed to have the match but MJF the heel cries that he's injured
Starting point is 01:48:36 or he's not cleared or whatever to suck or Osprey in a position where he can fucking brainbuster him or DD team or tombstone whatever the tombstone thing, whatever the goddamn deal is he did to Garcia drop him on his head
Starting point is 01:48:52 and then laugh at the fans again because to have that match even if you have it and then do an angle afterwards you've you've taken the blue off the rose, you have popped the proverbial cherry on people not having to pay to see what it looks like for MJF to be in the ring
Starting point is 01:49:15 being physical with Will Osprey. And, I mean, they can bring Luthez back from the dead to fucking face Jesus Christ at the second coming of the last supper. And it ain't going to pop a giant guy. damn rating different than what they've been doing to begin with. So why wouldn't they keep their big money match special? I would think swerve and now we know from later on, Danielson, which again,
Starting point is 01:49:50 can they put, they make swerve their world champion. What are the people who loved him, cheering him out of the fucking building. Oh my God, carried him out on their shoulders. So they put him against every sentimental favorite and other beloved baby face
Starting point is 01:50:04 and I guess at Christmas he'll goddamn rad shotgun for Santa Claus but anyway where was I going with that? Oh I don't know why in the world you would give this match away on television unless they're going to do some kind of hot finish
Starting point is 01:50:26 that they think necessitates a rematch which I would do that as an angle without the match in front of it but that's just me. Do you think they have to have the match, or do you think if they did an angle, something, you know, to get heat on MJF, whatever it may be, if they did something,
Starting point is 01:50:44 is it too big of a rip-off considering the way AEW sells themselves to their fans for them to do an angle, which should be beneficial, but again, they're selling everything on match quality. You sell tickets on match quality. You may have a problem, the fans may have a problem if you do an angle.
Starting point is 01:51:00 What do you think? I don't think they're selling tickets. So, again, it's not my fault that they fucking agreed to this, but if in some way, shape, or form, MJF, who's already warned everybody, I'm going to fuck with everything you like, I'm going to fucking make this company and all of you fans pay for disrespect me and abandoning me and all the other verbiage, MJF is the one who challenged Osprey for this thing for the match.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Maybe he's suckering him in to get him close and he could do something to him, boom, and then Osprey goes to Tony Kahn or Christopher Daniels or one of the fucking lollipop guild or whoever's running this hot dog stand this week and demands a match at Wembley Stadium in his home country where
Starting point is 01:51:52 he's going to be face to face with MJF instead of MJF pulling some kind of fucking bullshit. I don't know. Because I don't know what they're doing here, giving us away with a week's notice. And I mean, as swerve and Danielson is interesting in many old England, as Osprey and MJF will be, especially after six more weeks of promos. I think swerve is less interesting now than he ever has been. And I think with Danielson, in their eyes, this story of him
Starting point is 01:52:27 in his last year trying to overcome all these obstacles is good booking and has been done well so for them I think that is compelling but I don't think to the general I don't think to the AEW fan at large that's compelling thing
Starting point is 01:52:44 MJF versus Osprey is the most compelling thing maybe the only compelling thing in the entire company anyway let's move on but I'll wait and attempt to be impressed. How's that? All right.
Starting point is 01:53:01 And then they did a package on Danielson and Page in the Owen Hart final. At various points they said the winner gets the Wembley main event. And then they said the winner gets a AEW title match. And then finally later on they mentioned it it's held by swerve. And actually they should be saying it gets a, shot at the AW World title currently held by swerve Strickland if he has any defenses coming up between now and end but they probably don't know that, do they?
Starting point is 01:53:37 Tony hadn't decided based on which other of his action figures he got off the shelf. And Jeff Jarrett was the special enforcer which is Tony reacting, I'm sure this was not planned when they went into the thing, but reacting to Jeff doing some great interview and being actually the only person that knew Owen and his whole fucking thing
Starting point is 01:54:00 and the people started getting behind him. But again, the logic in their universe is there's nobody producing the announcers to bring this up. But okay, yes, they're changing hang-nail Adam Page's
Starting point is 01:54:21 character, the healy music, the change in the hairstyle, he's got a frown on his face he's supposed to be a heel but suddenly Jeff Jarrett doing nothing but knowing Owen Hart 25 years ago and doing a couple weeks of promos
Starting point is 01:54:40 now the announcers who are saying what a no good piece of shitty are saying oh one of the all-time greats he's a Hall of Famer Jeff Jarrett do you see there was no in between there was no action he took otherwise than said some nice
Starting point is 01:54:56 things about a guy who was a friend of his. Jeffrey Dahmer had friends. But the announcers are wishy-washy is the point I'm making. Did you even pick up on that or are you listening to him at this point? I mean, I say it all the time. It's the worst commentary team. Even if you add Nigel, the problem is Excalibur and Chivani. Those two,
Starting point is 01:55:16 specifically them together, is audio poison. It is a killer. It's a killer. You have no good communicators. Chivani just yells out positive things. Or, oh, this son of a bitch, I've had enough of this guy. Oh, this is great. Oh, the fans are digging this.
Starting point is 01:55:36 I'm digging this. Good call. He says, good call. Like, he gives him a snap mirror. Hey, that was a snap mirror. Oh, good call, Taz. I heard him the other week some of this funny bullshit. He said, I love my job.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Yeah. Chavani's worthless out there. He should be removed immediately, but he won't be because he's a fucking stooge. And Tony Chivani likes him for that. That's one of the reasons Chavani. Talk to people who weren't into the whole revision as history of Chivani and WCW about Tony Chivani's dealings in WCW behind the scenes and get back to me. And then Excalibur is just atrocious on an indie.
Starting point is 01:56:08 You say indie, I did commentary a couple of times on the Indies and I wasn't that bad. He's bad. He's a bad communicator. And you catch him now if you listen where he tries to explain something simple and he gets the words all mixed up and he throws himself off. not good. You need to redo the commentary I've heard a few times where he went around his elbow
Starting point is 01:56:31 to get to his wrist and you could tell he's like how can I get out of this? But anyway Danielson and Page it was long I will again Danielson
Starting point is 01:56:44 excels in stuff like this especially when he's selling and he's trying to get the other guy over I just don't see it in page as a heel anymore than I saw it as a baby face because there's something that's not there. He's athletic. He does shit. It just, I don't, he doesn't, maybe, I don't want to smear Damian priest, but we've been talking
Starting point is 01:57:11 about priest. It looks like it and he sounds like it, but it ain't happening yet. I don't see Page at anywhere near even the level that priest is. he's a guy I don't I don't see what's going on he now he's playing a mean guy before he played a
Starting point is 01:57:32 happy guy but then he was a morose alcoholic guy but he's just always just a guy is there anything there that can spark people no no
Starting point is 01:57:49 he's he's their guy that's the thing you left out He's their guy. These guys, one of their big plans, behind the scenes in terms of booking, these guys, the recita kids, they're going to make Adam Page into a major star. And they put the world title on him,
Starting point is 01:58:08 and they teamed them up with Omega, and they gave him a drinking problem. They did everything they could to the best of their abilities to make him a star. And he still just feels like another guy out there. Well, Danielson, he sold, and he got juice and he fucking sold some more
Starting point is 01:58:26 and he tried to keep it moving as best he could with hope spots and hitting a knee out of nowhere but not been able to capitalize but did I mention this was very long and finally Danielson goes for the knee and Page moves and Danielson wipes the referee out and then Paige hits the fucking clothesline and he starts whipping him with a
Starting point is 01:58:52 leather belt and then Jeff Jarrett comes in as the special enforcer and said don't do that and Paige shoves Jeff down so Jeff gets up and takes off his shirt and reveals he has a referee shirt underneath and of course then Danielson's schoolboys him to count real quick just to get to people and again it's Gaga how did Jeff know he was going to need that? Well he was prepared just in case but
Starting point is 01:59:20 but then they go back and they do some more stuff couple more two counts and then Fally Page gets a cross face and Danielson fights out and they're rolling around on it, roll up one, two, three. Danielson wins. And so now it's Danielson against swerve for the title at Wembley and again poor swerve.
Starting point is 01:59:49 It gets so popular they want to put the world title on him and then they put him with the only people in the company that are more popular that he is over and over again. And now those people are going to love Danielson. And then cowgirl Martha Hart and Jeff Jarrett present Danielson with the Owen Heart Cup and the Owen Hart belt that has pink leather on the back of the Heart Foundation colors. And can they say, are you allowed? when somebody is a doctor,
Starting point is 02:00:27 then do you have to from then on use their entire full name every time you refer to them? Or could you still just say Martha or Hart? I think she would probably think, and anyone else who has a doctorate, would probably think it's disrespectful to not include doctor because they work for it. But do you have to say the whole complete name,
Starting point is 02:00:47 like Dr. Martha Hart? Not even Dr. Hart. This is her thing. I think they do. If it was just like every day weekly... weekly TV, it'd be one thing. This is the whole thing is for her. 27 times they said Dr. Martha Hart in the space of two minutes. Couldn't you say Dr. Hart or boy, it's great to see Martha or just anything to change that up from Dr. Martha Hart, Dr. Martha Hart, Dr. Martha Hart.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Well, I guess you're right. See, that's what I'm not saying disrespect her, but I'm not. Do we have to say Dr. Marcus Welby every goddamn time? They say her name more than they say, Owens. That's what I mean. It was like it was just a flood of it. Dr. Martha Hart, behind the Owen Hart Foundation,
Starting point is 02:01:31 Dr. Martha Hart in the ring now with a great-looking cowboy hat on. Dr. Martha Hart. Hey, can I say something? I wish you wouldn't, but go ahead. Well, thank you very much. Little. Do you think with the change in ownership in WWE and, you know, at various times over the last few years, even before the change in ownership,
Starting point is 02:01:52 people like Triple H, doing what they can to try to mend relationships, like you saw a Bruno San Martino. New ownership. No Vince. She's trying to do something for this foundation. Is there anything there for her to, you know, because Owens' legacy is with WWE. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 02:02:12 It's not with AW. Is there anything there under the new ownership to pull Dr. Martha Hart in so they can really do something? Or do you think there's no way like it's just W&W? as an entity is the enemy. And I read her book. And by the way, I read her book, she has every right to feel however negative she feels about all those motherfuckers.
Starting point is 02:02:34 So I'm not saying she doesn't. Well, and no, and I've agreed also, you know, before. It's like, what the fuck? She, you know, she has every right not to do business with or allow her husband's name to be exploited by that company. And it is, that's why I was. thing because obviously I haven't talked to her about it. I didn't call her up mask her. Hey, now Vince
Starting point is 02:02:57 is gone. But at the same point, it is still, it is the company. It is the company name. I don't know what her standpoint is on the idea
Starting point is 02:03:13 that it is still that entity, no matter who's there. Who is still there that would have been there then? Triple H, but he wasn't an exact. He wasn't in power at that point, although, depending on what private thoughts Owen had shared on Triple H with her, I'm sure she has a pretty good preconceived notion. I don't know. That's tough because nobody ever expected there to be a new regime of any kind, really, for so long.
Starting point is 02:03:48 But I can understand again why... Nick Conn. You know, even if it was just that entity, she might feel that way, but, you know, bring up a good point. You could make a lot more money, get a lot more fucking awareness. Oh, yeah. W.W. would sell out that building. And that's just, you know, the building in Calgary. If W.W.E got behind it, they'd make it a big deal.
Starting point is 02:04:14 Right now, this ownership didn't make it a big deal. It'd get a lot of attention. You'd raise more money. You'd be able to help more people. and more, I shouldn't say more importantly, but also I think it, hopefully the one thing would be just kind of, not ending it, but just kind of bringing everyone together and moving on without any animosity because it's a different, it's a different ownership. If you believe that Vince is gone. And Bruce Pritchard still there. You asked for a name who was there back then. Oh shit, that's right. Mike. Well, he's left and come back, as Aunt Lola used to say. But that one thing you brought up, how far would they want to go just to get? I mean, for a Hall of Fame induction, you know, whatever, that would, I'm sure they would want some involvement. But are they going to take the Owen Hart Foundation on the road and raise them $50 million?
Starting point is 02:05:05 Maybe not. But even merch. But even merch right there to raise money. They do merch with AW. Owen Hart's in their video game. Owen Hart action figures are on sale from AEW's action figure maker. It's not WWE. You know what I was about to say?
Starting point is 02:05:22 Well, I was about to say then it looks like it's not going to be WW for a while because obviously they've got contracts in place for that. But you know what? Since it's AEW, maybe not. But no, Dr. Martha Hart, she would make sure there was proper paperwork. Proper paperwork. So it's a moot point probably now for, quite some time.
Starting point is 02:05:46 If they've made this investment in the game and in the merchandise and in the tournament and her appearances, I would think that would preclude them from doing anything with WWE in the near future. Very selfishly, and you can understand why, but very selfishly, a lot of fans want that closure of Owen being recognized in WWE. And I say selfishly because obviously Dr. Martha Hart doesn't, and she wants something different and again, read her book. If you want to know about what she went through with them,
Starting point is 02:06:18 read her book. She has every reason to be upset and no reason to be called bitter because of it. Yes. But that was the O'N file. Brian Danielson wins a title match against Swirr-Strickland. I'm sick of his fucking music. I'm getting sick of Nonna too.
Starting point is 02:06:35 Oh, Kona never gets to do anything else. So he has to do the same thing over and over. He's got to come up with a new move. Well, that's what she said. You know, if Nona doesn't come up with a new move, I might sue. Well, I'll tell you what, if you're entirely insistent upon suing a man because he cannot come up with a different way to gyrate his hips in a sexually suggestive fashion, then I know exactly who you ought to talk to.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Call Stephen P. New a show for two. Those are the rest. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, if you indeed would like to see a man gyrate his hips in a sexually suggestive fashion over the face of a fallen opponent that tried to deny you your proper compensation in a court of law, and then Stephen P. Neu comes along, boom, and smites that opponent and stands over there and swivels those hips just like he did at the West Virginia Barclia. Association dinner and banquet a couple of years ago, and he got himself out of that, too. Because one thing about Stephen P. knew, if he's in trouble, he can get
Starting point is 02:08:15 himself off. But I'll guarantee you that he can write and rectify any wrong or uprising that you've got in your life, whether you've been wrongfully terminated, poisoned, tortured, bound, gag, tied up, taken away
Starting point is 02:08:31 your help for ransom. The attorney that you want on your side, to fight your battles in open court or even behind closed doors, Stephen P.new at new law office.com 87750 Steve. Brian, can you think of another man that you would want swiveling his hips for your betterment? For the record, I don't want anyone swiveling their hips for my betterment, but whatever they do for society is,
Starting point is 02:09:05 to them. Well, society needs a good pelvic thrust every now and then. Just to keep everybody in line. Well, Stephen P. Speaking of lines. Yeah, for fans of the pelvis or not, Stephen Pino, 8775-0, Steve, but back to the pelvis of wrestling known as dynamite. Well, yes, because after Danielson got presented with the cup,
Starting point is 02:09:31 and where's the saucer to go along with it? Then Swerve's music played, and here came Swerve and Nana, and they go to commercial break. So you think when they come back from the commercial break, that Swerve and Nana have confronted Brian Danielson, who will be his opponent, right? Everybody else is gone. It's just Swerve and Nana. Where did they go? And why did Swerve come out with Danielson in the ring? if Danielson was just going to leave under cover of commercial break.
Starting point is 02:10:07 That was clickbait. Brian, that's what that was. I guess so. It was, we thought we was going to see something that we didn't see. So then swerve, congratulated Danielson. He said it's going to be a true honor facing him at Wembley. What else can he say? I'll kill you, you little fucking broken down white pipsqueak?
Starting point is 02:10:31 No, because they're all baby-faced. And he is swerve, he is still mad, however, that Danielson has a pin over him. But things have changed since then. So that's the big bone of contention that they've got right now for the main event world title match is, yeah, well, the other guy beat me a while back. But people love us both, so we can't really be too nasty about each other. and he talks about the EVPs offered him a spot in the Blood and Guts match and he will be joining Blood and Guts on Team AEW.
Starting point is 02:11:11 He says, I'm going to step up and lead this team to victory over the elite. So the people that are actually executive vice presidents of AEW are on the team that is being fought by Team AEW. Are you following all this, Brian? Yep. Okay. Then Swerve challenged Okodi for some reason at some point somewhere. Yeah, I know he got it.
Starting point is 02:11:47 He got it in. He's challenging him too, right? Do you remember any more details? Swerve's challenging Okada? Yes. I don't remember any other detail. I didn't like this promo. I swearb just rambles now too.
Starting point is 02:12:01 He's another one who gets nowhere and you can't follow what he's saying because he can't follow what he's saying. It's all the stuff they've got him talking about is he is congratulate Danielson be an honor facing you at wet. People don't want to see swerve Strickland be nice. He was a baby terrorizer and they cheered him.
Starting point is 02:12:20 Now he's congratulating the guy that's going to be an honor to fight. You know, and then the EVPs, well, I turn them down. because I'm a baby face and I'll fight on the team that's representing AEW that's against the EVPs of AEW. And then I'm going to fight Okada too.
Starting point is 02:12:44 And then Danielson, it's going to be your final countdown. It was just everywhere. And as they go to the break, because it's 56 minutes into the show and all we've seen is the things that we have described. and they're plugging Willow Nightingale against Maria May as the main event and right then I know my God they've got to be out of their minds
Starting point is 02:13:09 because we've still got an hour to go and that's what they're dangling in front of us as a carrot on the end of a stick. Your thoughts of anything going forward before we move on? I heard that swerve is as over as he's been with the people in the building, however many people there may be. but he's lost his luster to me and his promos don't help.
Starting point is 02:13:35 He's got nothing to say or he's got no way to say it. You know, I don't know, I'm kind of, I've gotten sick of swerve, and I was a big booster of his, obviously, but I'm kind of gotten sick of swerve strickle. Well, he's got to kill people with kindness. He just like, oh, Danielson, going to be an honor getting in the ring with you, white boy. I don't. I don't. That's twice you've called him a white boy. What do you do?
Starting point is 02:14:03 Well, it's good. You know, look at the two of them. Danielson is translucent. You can read a newspaper through his fucking chest skin. And I don't think they, they may both come from Washington, but it didn't look like they come from the same neighborhood. There's liable to be some conflict you could manufacture,
Starting point is 02:14:22 but they can't say anything bad because they're both baby faces. And they can't do that shit again, can they or will they were? Danielson's there Dynamite all of a sudden Swerve shows up in his house with Brie Bella or something because that's the shit that Swerve did to get him over
Starting point is 02:14:36 I think in this case only if we find out that he's been going over to see Bree for about a year and a half Oh shit See that now That made you go
Starting point is 02:14:48 Oh shit didn't it see Now that'd be a fight Anyway at 9 o'clock Eastern We got a comedy rap video of the acclaimed and Billy Gunn invading the elites locker room where they rifled through their shit, smelled their sneakers,
Starting point is 02:15:06 and pissed on two fake buckaroos dressed up as Maddie and Nikki. And I am not kidding. And I know the kids talk fast in the raps, but I can't follow Castor now at this space. It was so, it was so quick. And so much gawg,
Starting point is 02:15:29 I lost track of what he was even saying, but the video, do they have to be just clowns about everything? And if the baby faces are just complete jackoffs about what the heels have done, then does it mean that they care that much? And if they don't care that much, should I care? And did I ask you about seven questions there? I have the answers to none of them. But I guess they're on Team A&EW.
Starting point is 02:15:59 you. All righty. Did you enjoy the stampede street fight between Samoa Joe and the Learning Tree Chris Jericho? Because it's Stampede Week, so naturally they've got to have a stampede street fight. I heard complaints from people in the building about how long Joe was in the walls of Jericho. Oh, well, we have a way to time it because he got put in the walls of Jericho to go to the break, and he was still in the walls of Jericho when they came back three and a half minutes later. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:16:45 And I've heard of, you know, slowing down when you're in commercial break to catch your breath. But the point is Joe tried his best. He did the big dives. He did his stuff. But, you know, they start the street fight by Joe having to snatch Jericho's cowboy hat. And then Jericho dumps out a bag of horseshoes.
Starting point is 02:17:10 And as I said, the lion tamer, Boston Crab, whatever the case through the entire commercial break. And then the walk fight. They go over the rail
Starting point is 02:17:26 and they fight in the stands and then they walk fight through the backstage. It just with their hands on each other, just walking. And they go past the coffee station and throw the hot coffee. And Joe gets a sleeper and Big Bill comes out of a fucking closet
Starting point is 02:17:43 somehow. With a chair and starts beating up Joe and then Brian Keith does. And Jericho hits Joe with his Dr. Martha Heart belt buckle. The Dr. Martha... So now
Starting point is 02:17:56 they're making a big deal out of Dr. Martha Hart, the ultimate baby face in Calgary. gave Chris Jericho a gift of a belt with a big Western belt buckle. And he's punching the guy with... Poor Martha! She didn't know her gift was going to be used for ill. But anyway,
Starting point is 02:18:22 then that they have beaten up and compromised and diminished and decimated and flabbergasted Joe, and he's down, they put him on a forklift. And Brian, you remember the the last time they built a fake room so they could throw somebody through a window? Oh, that's right. And there was a guy in the fake room who just disappeared?
Starting point is 02:18:48 Yes, because the walls didn't meet. Well, I'm telling you what, that was a goddamn restoration of the Notre Dame Cathedral next to this fucking apparatus that they used next because they goddamn, they put Joe on this forklift, and Jericho revs up the forklift and drove him through what can only be described as an obviously fake drywall, drywall wall that was attached to nothing and was just hung up freestanding with no studs and held
Starting point is 02:19:31 up with clamps. It didn't meet not only did it not meet the walls around it but they were all concrete while there was just this fucking about eight foot tall, 20 foot wide stand
Starting point is 02:19:47 of drywall and when the forklift went through it you could see not only were there unpainted two before us on the face side of this wall that you could see but when it went through you can see that Brian, you're a homeowner.
Starting point is 02:20:04 I don't know how much building codes you have studied. I've watched a lot of people remodel around here lately. How close together do you have to have studs? How far apart of your studs usually? Oh, I have no idea. Well, 15 to 18 inches. You know how far apart their studs were? Seven feet?
Starting point is 02:20:28 In this wall? About eight feet. And not only that, but before he drives through it, besides being able to see the naked unpainted two-befours, maybe even one-by-toos on the outside of this thing, you can still see sawdust on the floor in front of it where they've just constructed it. It doesn't meet the concrete wall on the side or behind of it.
Starting point is 02:20:56 It's just freestanding, and it's held up with clamps. And it's an area where you go under the stands there. That's why there's a sign that says, caution, low clearance. Because you're just walking underneath this, something in, it looks like this in almost every arena I've been in. It's a slanted area where the stands are going up and it's triangular and you're walking through a hallway around that area.
Starting point is 02:21:24 They just put up a goddamn big mess of drywall so they can run the forklift through it. And so now they're stuck under the bleachers and Colt Cabana comes out, referred to as one of the coaches, and is yelling at Jericho, and the doctor stopped the match. Because the match, of course,
Starting point is 02:21:49 it's still been going on. Up to that point, they'd only been in the back about three or four minutes. And then they come back after the break and do a replay of it like we needed to see it again. And when Cabana came through,
Starting point is 02:22:09 he just reached up and pushed the fucking drywall and it just crumbled in his hands like he was a goddamn incredible fucking bulk. And then they load Joe in the ambulance and drive him out while Jericho and Big Bill and Brian Keith are standing there waving goodbye at him.
Starting point is 02:22:26 So, poor Joe, he, He tried his best. He's a quality talent. And somebody leaves in an ambulance every week now. So why are we supposed to be shocked or upset? They just did this last week.
Starting point is 02:22:49 So every week of who's going to be next week. Now people will start betting on it. And again, we saw two big attacks at the end of each show. So Tony and his mind is obviously heating things up, getting ready for the big August. His shows, Joe is a TV show to film, so he'll be back soon enough. But Jericho, the story's still Jericho. How awful he is. How awful this gimmick is.
Starting point is 02:23:15 Every little bit of this. And he's one of Tony Kahn's biggest weaknesses, because he can't get past the fan that he is a Jericho. But God damn, get this fucking guy off TV. Tony should spend some money and book Chris on a tour of like Asia for like three years let him really go out there
Starting point is 02:23:39 and spread rock and roll to the world, his brand of rock and roll to the world and let us live our lives us wrestling fans atrocious garbage awful we need to stop trying to justify his attempts to stay on TV
Starting point is 02:23:52 for the remainder of this giant contract and now we know also he's the shits at doing drywall and on commentary he had to have done it himself Cherico put that thing up himself because no nobody that's ever constructed anything would have i could have pushed a plastic bag through it yes no i'm just dilly just blow on it it would have fallen down it and it's not
Starting point is 02:24:19 like this is this is rousseau and this is ruso shit and this is ruso shit we're going to put you out a track on a forklift for no reason and drive you through a drywall that doesn't exist so Jericho and his friends could wave goodbye in the parking lot. This is why people compare this to late WCW, to late period WCW. It's terrible. Yeah, somebody's on their period. And now they had a four-way match for a shot at the international title. See, everybody's getting the shots at the titles here now.
Starting point is 02:24:55 And this was Claudio versus PAC versus Felcher versus Ishi And this was a perfect I had a cheeseburger that needed to be warmed up that was left over that I needed to nash on as Howard Finkel would say And
Starting point is 02:25:16 So I went and did that And what I saw was Ishi is fucking embarrassing What the fuck? It looks like somebody fucking gave cognitive thought to an armadillo. He's just all stooped over and fucking hunchy.
Starting point is 02:25:39 Well, he's a shorter man. I think he's only like five foot four maybe, five five, at the most. See, if he had a neck, he'd be five nine. But he'd take out six inches out in the middle that most people have in God. You know, watching him against Claudio,
Starting point is 02:26:00 it's not good just because of the height difference. And when they were laying in those forearms, I don't know how much of this you watched. It's everything you complain about, the soft forearms that are barely touching. And you could tell. And again, there's a giant height difference. He's 5'4.
Starting point is 02:26:16 What is Claudio? 6.5? 5. He's about 6'4. Yeah, easily. He's like a foot tall. It was just so not for me. I thought Fletcher looked really good in this, actually, though.
Starting point is 02:26:27 Well, good for him. Maybe he'll have something to fall back on one day. Anyway, um... Did you see the interaction between René Moxley Good and the hangnail? I did a big dramatic moment, our opportunity for Renee here. What did you think of this? Well, I'm telling you, she's coming down the hall, talking to the announcers that have just pitched to her,
Starting point is 02:26:55 page comes out, shoulders past her, and she chased him down and demanded a little respect for what I'm trying to do here, too. and he ignored her and just knocked on the locker room door and she walked off I'm pretty sure she can take him I think she can take him if I was him I wouldn't be some fucking flippant with her she's on Canada maybe she played some hockey I don't think she'd need to
Starting point is 02:27:26 I think she could have majored in bacon brownies and take fucking Adam page but and nevertheless he knocked on the door oh cody opens the door can i help you and page is going to go in and he stops him and i i hope you and then the buckaroos come out and they do a little bit of their phony reporte and then page just to growls at him and he'll do it and walks off so he was grumpy at him last week he's grumpy at everybody But what changed to make him not grumpy with them from last week, but say he lost the match to Brian Danielson.
Starting point is 02:28:13 So is Danielson on that team? Nobody's articulating these things. Does he get a hold of Danielson? If he gets in this match with these people as partners, what's going on here? He'll join their blood and guts team, which is what they wanted and what we thought it was going to be. And I don't think it's about Danielson. It's about losing the title match. Losing the Owen meant you lose the match.
Starting point is 02:28:33 against swerve at Wembley. Yeah. What's that got to do with July the 24th in Nashville? It has to deal with swerves on Team AEW as the world champion, and the Bucks and Jack Perry and Okada, team jerk off. They need someone, a fifth man, Adam Page. Other than Colt Cabana, who else could it be? It's going to be Adam Page.
Starting point is 02:28:56 And Adam Page, I heard that he just did a promo on collision, all bloodied up, yelling about things. and he's saying that he's not happy that the fans chose swerve after everything he did over him. So I don't think that thing's over. Wait a man, that's MJF's deal, isn't it? Well, I don't think this thing is over. So are we now going to do two or three or four or five heels with the same goddamn gripe based on their insecurity and rejection fucking syndrome?
Starting point is 02:29:26 So who's team AEW now? It's swerve. It's Mark Briscoe. I'm going to assume Darby, right? Because he showed up later in the show. I thought the acclaimed, maybe still the acclaimed. Is that team AEW right there? Well, maybe.
Starting point is 02:29:42 Swerve, Darby, Briscoe, and the acclaimed. All right. They've really done a great job of building up this blood and guts. Hey, do you remember when Tony Kong got beat up? When the owner of the company got beat up by the heel stable? And his dad was in there? What's his dad going to say or do? Nothing.
Starting point is 02:29:59 It went nowhere. doesn't matter. His dad had been waiting to see that for years. Christopher Daniels was like, all right, I got a way to get back on TV. Then we don't see him ever again. He never talks ever again. Well, you know who talked again, though, Brian? Who's that?
Starting point is 02:30:17 Mercedes Moon. She comes out, and she's going to have another celebration, and she's got a little display where she's going to have a toast to herself or whatever the fuck. and the fans were just standing there and staring at her, was she doing her little stripper pole dance, and when she says, say hello to your CEO, there's Kalayabu. Could she explain that? Why exactly is she the CEO?
Starting point is 02:30:49 What exactly is she the CEO of? Does she understand what the initial signify, C-E-N-O? And how does any of that have to do with this? That has CEOs make money. and because she can't call herself banks and had all these funds about money. And the boss, she was the boss, remember? And she was the boss and the CEO is the boss and they make money. And so now she's Mercedes Moni and she's a CEO.
Starting point is 02:31:21 And she's a bad actress and she's doing bleh material and she doesn't do it well. And the only heat she got was for another. middle of his thing when she said, I'm the best her is, the best her was, the best her ever will be, because they're in Calgary, and they, oh, fuck you. And she was about to toast herself, and here came Britt Baker's music. And she comes down the aisleway and fights her way past two security guys, including super kicking one, and then rolled in and ran Mercedes out of the ring. Here's a question I want to ask you, Brian.
Starting point is 02:31:58 why do they not have female security? Well, I guess in this time of equal rights, there's still the thought, and probably right, that a big muscular, a big strong man is probably the best person to actually be in the role of a security guard due to what a security guard may have to do. Well... There aren't a lot of big female bouncers at bars with men.
Starting point is 02:32:22 Well, but now here the converse, the obverse, the reverse, the reverse. put it in rewind. The men's security guards, 285 pounds, they can't touch the Liv Morgans and the Mercedes moans and all these small little girls on television. They can't just yank them up and fucking carry them away tucked under their arm like they could in real life
Starting point is 02:32:47 because the networks and the company, they don't like that kind of thing. So what I'm saying is when the girls get in a fight, they ought to send out girl security. And then we'll see how tough these girls are on either side. Wouldn't you like to see that? I mean, it's interesting.
Starting point is 02:33:10 I would like to see it because I've never seen it. So I would like to see more people get jobs. That's nice. More people there. Because the guys out there, the guy security comes out and they either get beat up or they pull the guys apart. But the guy's security comes out for the girls, they're not allowed to do anything. They just stand around waving their arms like a bunch of fucking idiots.
Starting point is 02:33:27 we'll send a couple of about a half a dozen goddamn off-duty hooters waitresses down there and you'll watch the ratings fucking bounce up and down the only thing more ridiculous than Britt Baker taking down the two male security guards without flinching would have been of Adam Cole did it well that's true
Starting point is 02:33:48 maybe during Adam Cole's matches they can send the girl's security down ridiculous what is this but what do you think wouldn't it wouldn't that'd be good to see? I would. I would. It would.
Starting point is 02:34:01 Yes. Have a sad. Wouldn't I wouldn't it be good to see? A lot of people don't think it'd be like it is, but it do. If those girls got in a big old fight down there and you sent about 10 or 12 more girls to pull them apart, well, Aaron, yeah, you've just got something now. How about a pervert security guard? Whenever they try to break up the girls, he cops a feel.
Starting point is 02:34:19 And then finally, they turn on them and that leads to the women security guards. I think, well, they could, they could milk it for three or four weeks. Every week, this same security guard keeps really getting kicked in the head or beat up by one of the girls and come to find out they all compare notes and he's trying to grab them with the bowling ball and ball and ball and ball parts. Maybe just a thought. On TNT or TBS, excuse me. On TBS, yes. They'll go for anything. All righty.
Starting point is 02:34:53 Well, back from the break. that's when Brandon Cutlet was in the back being beaten up by Darby Allen and Darby beat him up and he told Jack Perry
Starting point is 02:35:06 and the elite off and walked out the whole thing was over with in about 30 seconds and he's back he can't climb the mountain so he came back
Starting point is 02:35:16 the fun that's just back from a commercial break if you heard the commercial and you were in the kitchen making a sandwich, you wouldn't even have been back in time to see this. The fight is in progress. I didn't see it.
Starting point is 02:35:30 I heard about it after the fact. I missed this. Yeah, the fight's in progress. He hits him a couple of times. Doesn't take long to whip cutlets ass, as we all know. And then he's, ah, you, Jack Perry, and he'll eat and blah. And he's gone. That's the way they re-debue Darby Allen.
Starting point is 02:35:48 What happened to him? Was he blown up by an incendiary device? Oh, no, no, no. He broke his foot and then while recovering, his face was hit by a bus. Yes, but the, well, the storyline reason was that he was, his foot was broken because it was really broken, but they said that on TV. That's when, that's when he's been out recently, right? Because he had left to climb the mountain before that.
Starting point is 02:36:15 No, that was how he left to climb the mountain. He got hurt, so he couldn't climb the mountain. They did the angle to hurt him and take him off TV so he could go climb. the mountain, but in doing the angle, he really got hurt, so he was still off TV, but he didn't climb the mountain. Hopefully, did you climb all of that? Well, I didn't see that, but I heard what you said. And are we done with dynamite?
Starting point is 02:36:39 Was that the end of the time? No, no, no. Oh, we got the main event. We got the main event to go. It's going to turn their fortunes around. Because they're, they're really lobbying to get major corporate sponsors at a big renewal on their television deal. they actually went so far in that effort as to have
Starting point is 02:37:00 one girl cut herself in the head with a razor blade and have the other girl lick the blood off of her on fucking national cable television in the United States of America at 10 o'clock on an eastern time and you know what I will say to anyone bleeding is something that the average person who's not a wrestling fan may be concerned with a woman bleeding like that on TV, that's something that I think even some wrestling fans ago,
Starting point is 02:37:27 that's a bit much. She's so pale and so white right now that it really looked disturbing how bloody she got. Well, also, when Mariah was, is it Maria or Maria? I've gone both ways. It's Mariah. You better watch us. She'll shoot you with that fucking thing in the mouth. Well, fuck yeah. I'm not fucking getting anywhere near her. Um, she's got her by the hair and she's standing over and she's licking it and she's wiping it and she's glorifying in it. It looked like a goddamn frisetta painting of a Conan
Starting point is 02:37:58 fucking the conqueror scene. I just got a great book that Tashan did all of his artwork. Well, and they may be looking for other lines of work. If they I can't believe if the network is bleeping shit in crowd chance,
Starting point is 02:38:18 that they really appreciated what was going on there and the visual that people were getting when they were... Can you imagine the female audience tuning in trying to find modern family? So, it was Willow Nightingale
Starting point is 02:38:35 and Mariah May, Maria May, we just settled this, for the Owen Hart Cup, and then Mariah wins, and Tony Storm celebrates with her, and then Mariah grabs the belt and clocks Tony Storm in the head
Starting point is 02:38:53 and she gets color and she's bleeding and then again there's Mariah the shoe the high-heeled shoe and she's potatoing her in the face with it look brutal at one point she hit her in the mouth and Tony Storm moved a little bit yes she's like hey fuck but it
Starting point is 02:39:14 it it escalated quickly as the young folks said but also, I'm sorry I know in the wrestling bubble that these people live in. Oh, that's a great thing. But you can't. We've just seen a documentary talking about and interviewing some television broadcasting programming executives at this very same company about what their thoughts were pro-an con about professional wrestling. the same people may not still be in charge
Starting point is 02:39:53 but many of the same concepts that people have for television and how to brand their network still apply not only there but in a variety of places just because you change the executives doesn't mean you change the way that they think about the fundamentals
Starting point is 02:40:13 of how they're building their business and none of these people need professional wrestling. And it was just said in that program, who killed WCW. And remember, this is a time where the WCW telecast was drawing three and four times, still at the end, three and four times
Starting point is 02:40:40 the audience that this is drawn. And the executive is like, we don't think it's upscale for what our overall programming plan is. We can't get big sponsors. They don't want to spend the money. Who's going to sponsor that fucking last segment? Gillette Razor Blades? No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:41:04 It's not something that networks really particularly would ask to have on their air is women beating each other bloody, whether work or not when it's real blood and it looked a little fucking graphic. Guys' blood sometimes used to get you in trouble with television stations. This was close-ups.
Starting point is 02:41:30 This was Tony Storm did a great job of selling it because it made me not want to see it. It was pretty brutal. And again, she's so pale right now that the blood really stood out and it was a disturbing image to end the show with They thought it was a hot angle. Again, they ended last week's show.
Starting point is 02:41:49 MJF doing this to Daniel Garcia. Not with a woman's shoe, but you know what I mean. Yes. Two weeks in a row, they're ending the show with a big turn. Well, and in the middle, they just hospitalized. Oh, goddamn, who went out in the ad Joe went out. Samoa Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:05 So from a booking standpoint, this has suddenly gotten repetitive over just a couple of television shows. and from a business standpoint, holy fuck, if they're in a position where girls getting color on television will make a significant impact in their overall business enough to justify the risk of potential sponsor and television backlash, then they're in a pretty shitty spot. And if Tony called his babysitter or liaison or comment, concierge or whoever at TBS and said, well, we're going to have blood with one of the girls in an
Starting point is 02:42:50 angle. I don't know if he still told him and we're going to have a close-up as the one girl licks the blood off her head. At the very end, like the last thing before it cut off from me was Tony Storm actually like spitting the blood out of her mouth. Well, wouldn't you? I guess so. So I'm not surprised they caught that activity.
Starting point is 02:43:13 so we'll see if maybe Hormel with a nice new lunch meet for kids will sponsor next week or something well that's a AWD dynamite we do not have the quarter hour ratings yet so we will time travel shortly to get there what is that a parakeet fucking a fucking football over there you know depending on which atmosphere you enter you never know the sounds that'll disseminate from the time machine, we are here in the future.
Starting point is 02:44:00 Yeah, some of those sounds emanating. It sounds like you had bad fucking Taco Bell for dinner, but go ahead. Nevertheless, we're here in the future. We know things now that we didn't know then. All things are as they were then, except you are there. And we have found out it is indeed true. Jim has a massive collection of Clara Mortensen nude photos for no good reason. They're daguerreotype. I'll have you know.
Starting point is 02:44:27 Really? Instead of... Yes. Well, speaking of anything else but this. AEW Dynamite, Jim, July 10th, Calgary, Alberta, Canada, the Scotia Bank Saddle Dome, not the Scotty Bank Saddle Dome, as I called the last time. Did you say what you got? I didn't correct you.
Starting point is 02:44:47 It sounded right. The Scotty Bank? It sounded right. Well, Scotia, they had just a scotia of a crowd there. According to Wessel Ticks, the final Campt. Tickets distributed 4,524. The last time they were there for the record was last year, July 15th, 2023, the attendance 5,896. Ouch.
Starting point is 02:45:11 Oh, well, it's only 1,300 and some down, but it's Stampede Week. They seem to be making a tradition of this, so maybe the people are making a tradition of not coming back. Well, we'll see if that's another holiday that affects the ratings here this week, Jim. AW-Denamite July 10th, according to WrestleMania 5.m., 691,000 viewers on average. Okay, so weeks ago, we would have said, oh, ha! But now that, I can't remember, but is that up from last week? Last week was 688.
Starting point is 02:45:55 See, it's up just a Scosh, just a Scotia Bank. So this is about where they're at right now. That's exactly. They were in the eights, now they were in the sevens, now they've gone to the sixes. Now on the bright side, they're up 8% over the trailing four-week average, which was 636, or 638, excuse me. Yeat. I'm not about to say there. But, you know, that's, you kind of just hit on one of the things I keep thinking every week when we see these numbers, because we set it.
Starting point is 02:46:32 It's like they settle in and then they start losing viewers and they gain a little bit back and it never comes all the way back. And we'll talk later on about different things that are blamed. But let's go to the quarterly breakdown. I'm still, I'm with the all night gas station theory, but go ahead. I can be swayed. These are compiled by Ressalonomics, quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m. The recap of MJF's live promo on Collision, the Will Osprey MJF Live promo, or MJF, I think, was taped, but I don't know.
Starting point is 02:47:08 And the Owen Hart tournament video, 819,000 viewers. Okay, that is better than they have done the last couple of weeks, as I remember, on starting out with a bigger number and... High point in the key demo as well. And so, but now it looks like from their average, they may be plummeting toward a precipice at some point to program. But continue, my dear fellow. Quarter two, 815, 8. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:47:42 You can't even get the time out before. Oh, my God, mother of all creatures big and small. I was doing quick math, but it actually goes with the trend. line quarter to 815 830 p.m. Brian Danielson versus hangman Adam Page with picture and picture with picture and picture 725,000 fewer.
Starting point is 02:48:05 Ouch, okay, well that's only 94,000 people. But did this marathon battle of the Titans, did it keep the people? Did it hook them in? When you book a match? like that on television, is that the goal to keep who you have, to get more people
Starting point is 02:48:26 in? Do you expect to lose people? What is a Booker's expectation? Essay question, in the territories, you weren't thinking about the ratings because the ratings on your local stations was probably always good, and if they weren't good, you probably weren't running that town.
Starting point is 02:48:43 You wanted to, as a whole, present the program where it would draw the most money to the house shows and the angles and the matches that you were going to be promoting. And if you were going to do a long match like that, Dusty did them, because Eddie Graham did them, it was to showcase intermittently, not rarely, more often than that, but not regularly.
Starting point is 02:49:09 Obviously, it was to showcase your best workers in a match that was better than what the fans would normally ever see on television and build to the finish that you wanted to find people would say, oh, wow, that fun, and they would talk about it, right? Well, now you can't get anybody to talk about a TV match just because it's long, because Lord knows we got plenty of those, and it really needs to be now more than ever with your best workers to even, you know, keep people's attention, and it's, the quarter-hour ratings are a thing that, especially in local television, regional syndication didn't even exist 40 years ago,
Starting point is 02:49:57 but you would find that when you had Flair and Wyndham go the hour in Florida, or when you had the Midnight to Fantastics, yeah, go the hour on Crockett TV, or whatever the case may be, that interest appreciated at the house shows amongst those people in the rematches. So it was a completely different thing, but you didn't just do that thing.
Starting point is 02:50:25 Oh, wow, a bunch of people are going to watch this match and it'll be the end of it. It was no, you've already had people watching your wrestling show. Now you needed to get them interested in a specific thing enough to want to pay to see it. Well, we got a quarter three, 830 to 8.45 p.m. The continuation of Brian Danielson versus Hangman Adam Page with picture and picture 722,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:50:52 Well, at least they didn't really lose any. I mean, at that percentage, it's people that had to piss. They kept steady. We go into quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. The Brian Danielson live angle, live angle. What was he? Where's my notes? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:51:14 Oh, was that just him bumping in the swerve? Was that just him bumping in the swerve? Well, they didn't even bump. Swerve was walking down the, Well, bumping into, not the physical sense, but just, you know, hey, I bumped into Ellen the other day. Yeah, well, he got the cup and then here came swerve and then remember we, you know, when he came back, it was where Danielson wasn't there. Brian Danielson leaving, aka the live angle, an ad break, swerve Strickland's live promo, and an Owen Hart tournament video followed by an ad break, 663,000. viewers. Oh, good
Starting point is 02:51:54 Lord. And remember when Swerve was just over like crazy about three months ago before they went to work on him? Not on the mic. But we go now to quarter five... Well, no, he was noted for his cunning linguist ability. People like yelling whose house it is,
Starting point is 02:52:19 but I don't know if his promos have really been there yet. I will see if they get there, but we'll get to quarter five. The big nine o'clock hour, 9.15 p.m. Right over there. Right over here now. The acclaimed and Billy Guns rap video,
Starting point is 02:52:37 followed by Samoa Joe versus Chris Jericho in a Calgary street fight. No. A stampede street fight. A stampede street fight. Picture and picture. 672,000 viewers. Ooh, it looks like some people came back from taking a dump.
Starting point is 02:52:59 Now, we always say, if you have a Chris Jericho segment at the end of a quarter, it usually drives the next quarter down, let alone a match that goes from one quarter into another, you would think, right? We have noticed that trend in previous instances. Quarter six, nine, 15, and 9.30 p.m., the continuation of Joe versus Jericho, an ad break. The Joe hospitalization angle, and the start of Claudio versus Ishii versus Pac versus Kyle Fletcher with picture and picture, 632,000 viewers. And 40,000 bite, the dust. Actually not. I was going to say the low point in the key demo, it's just slightly above the low point. Well, now see, now that's the way Uncle Dave is going to report it. I'm going to say this was slightly above the low point.
Starting point is 02:53:56 You can always talk positive. So they are down... We're back to our old pattern again. They're down 100 and... What is that? They're 187,000 people from where they started from. And they haven't cracked 700,000 since 845 Easter. Well, we're going out of quarter 7.
Starting point is 02:54:18 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. The continuation of Claudio v. Ishii v. Pact versus Fletcher. Pax Live promo, Hangman Adam Page and Elite and Renee Piquette, having a backstage confrontation. Did that remember? That was, I'll do it. The Mercedes Monet Brit Baker Live Angle.
Starting point is 02:54:41 Oh boy. An ad break. And Darby Allen's backstage promo, I guess that's what we'll call it, 657,000 viewers. Good Lord, you mean they actually picked up 25,000 thousand for that. I think people saw Jericho turned off the channel, but they still wanted to watch
Starting point is 02:54:59 wrestling. They just waited until he was off. You may be right. I mean, it proves out every single week. We go now to quarter eight. I remind you, we have an overrun. It says three minutes here. Willow Nightingale versus Mariah Mae with picture and picture.
Starting point is 02:55:14 Owen Hart, Cornament. Tournament Cup final. The Cornament. That can be your tournament. Cornament tup. We have the Jim Cornament. Uh, picture and picture ads. 640,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:55:29 Three minute overrun with the big postmatch angle, with Tony Storm and Luther, 695,000 viewers. Oh, so suddenly 55,000 people are like, where the fuck is modern family and why are these women drinking each other's blood? How many men got beaten up by women on this show this week? Well, and, and, you know, again, that's not fair. Oh, that's not why I'm saying it. I'm not saying we should have...
Starting point is 02:55:58 No, it's sex. We ought to be able to retaliate from this epidemic of female-on-male violence on television, but no. Man, Britt Baker didn't wait for that security guard. They even do it if it just punched him right to face. No, he could have been saying, hey, I'm on your side. I'm going to let you walk right by me. Oh, whoa.
Starting point is 02:56:17 Oh, whoa. Well, those were the ratings, and a lot of people were blaming a lot of things. and as we were recording, the Meltzer says what Twitter account had tagged you and I and a lot of people started sending it our way. Audio, I guess, of Dave and Brian on their show. I have not checked the twit machine
Starting point is 02:56:37 here lately, so I haven't seen this, but you can fill me in now in front of everybody. Well, I guess their point is that the biggest thing that's hurt AEW is WWE being hot. That that's the single biggest cause in AEW being cool,
Starting point is 02:56:53 not the booking, not the talent, not Tony Con but WWE being hot and I wanted to get your thoughts on if there's any validity to that. It's nothing we're doing. It's just these other guys are so much better at it than we are.
Starting point is 02:57:09 That's the defense by the favored nations that are on the side of the struggling secondary promotion. They're just so much better at this than we are
Starting point is 02:57:24 that that's why our business is down. Both of these things can be true. WWE has gotten better, NAEW has gotten worse. And you take the high road and I'll take the low road and one of us is still going to end up in the shithouse and one of us is going to end up in the penthouse. So yes,
Starting point is 02:57:54 WWE has gotten much better because they're doing things properly and Vince who was insane is not there anymore but meanwhile this fucking parity program that nobody with a life could possibly study enough notes on
Starting point is 02:58:14 to keep track of who the fuck is on whose side and who's mad at who and why and then the people aren't over because most of them don't know how to get themselves over and Tony don't know how to get anybody over Can I stop you there? Yes.
Starting point is 02:58:30 We hear from people, so I want you to, you're the expert again, explain the difference when people say, how can you just say they're not over, the people there are really into them? Well, there's still got to be more to how many people are there? That's the problem. When you start something and gradually, year over year, fewer people come and fewer people watch, you are not doing well. And that is a cumulative effect of either losing your talent to where they'd rather go work
Starting point is 02:59:06 somewhere else where there'll be bigger stars and be seen by more people or booking the ones that were popular at some point into fucking oblivion or in some cases, in many cases, picking the wrong people to fucking spend time on to begin with. and even though you don't get tired of those people, a lot of other people got tired of them people. Yeah, there are people popping for Orange Cassidy in the building,
Starting point is 02:59:34 and there certainly were a few years ago, too. It's just there are less people doing it today, and it's just like it is on television. There were a bunch of people. You drove some of them away, and then you kept driving them away. There is a path. There was a path where AW could not be WW-level popular.
Starting point is 02:59:55 or that was never going to happen, especially this quickly, but have been more successful than they are now while WWE was this hot, right? It's not like an automatic, WW is hot, so AEW has to lose audience share. Well, no, look at the Monday Night Wars. In a promotional war where both sides can be taken somewhat seriously, whether it was nationally with WCW and WWF,
Starting point is 03:00:22 or whether it was the territories, remember sheik and bruiser both did great for a while because each side is trying to bring in the best talent they can and compete with the other side in the early in the 80s with Vince coming into Crockett territory remember one night in Cincinnati we did the gardens they did Riverfront Coliseum and they sold
Starting point is 03:00:50 17,000 tickets in Cincinnati between the two shows we outdrew them by the way. But everybody was, it doesn't have to be that one side gets its ass kicked royally. That usually just happens when that one side sucks. Jerry Jared and Nick Goulis in 77.
Starting point is 03:01:13 So at AEW had built in goodwill that eroded when two things happen, number one, Vince got runoff finally for good and the WWE started getting more interesting and two
Starting point is 03:01:32 the people started realizing at AEW behind the scenes was a goddamn circus at a fucking romper room and a shit show and you know it's funny all these things work in different directions in different ways with different people it's funny as you say that I'm thinking about it
Starting point is 03:01:51 You know, the way WWE always played the media and just fed them bullshit, whether it was the WrestleMania 3 attendance, or whether it was ticket sales or reasons for moving WrestleMania 7, or over the years so many different things. Vincent Van, I think, said at one point he went to Harvard, so many different things that they just said to the press, and the press ran with. The inside smart fan used to go crazy over that.
Starting point is 03:02:21 the interesting thing is that's what's happening now with AEW and a lot of the wrestling media. You know, when it was reported last week that AEW was losing more viewers than, what was it, they were losing more viewers than the cable drop-off rate. Yes. AEW apparently pushed back and started sending data. I think the Brandon Thurston, he published a whole thing on WrestleManiaomics. So that's just an example. That's a public one.
Starting point is 03:02:52 But when all of a sudden you start seeing the narrative go to, overall numbers don't count, it's all about 18 to 49. And then 18 to 49 counts, except for this week because it's 18 to 35. A lot of these narratives are coming from Tony. They're coming from AEW. And AEW is not put in check by a lot of people
Starting point is 03:03:13 the way WWE always was, and rightfully so. They should have been. And they still should be. But AEW needs to be too. Well, yeah, because it, Again, at least with the WWE, there's somewhat of a publicly traded institution where they can't, they can still lie about a lot of things, but you can find out different.
Starting point is 03:03:33 Back in the day, you couldn't really find out unless you dug deep. And right now, AEW is in the same, it's up to what Tony says and or what Tony's people say. Don't believe your eyes. That's what they keep saying. Don't believe your eyes. Well, if you had eyes like Tony, would you believe it? So, right there. I don't even believe he's got him. I don't believe how quick you came up with that.
Starting point is 03:04:08 I'm just asking you. Ah, well... You could send a picture of Tony Kahn to Ripley and he'd send it back and say, I don't believe it. Well, we'll see what Warner Networks believes. And we'll see what kind of deal Tony gets. If Tony walks away without a streaming deal, I think it's a failure. We'll see. I mean, because again, this Tony Counts now making comments this week
Starting point is 03:04:32 that if this deal, if he gets the right media deal, the entire investment pays off. So this is going to be a big story and a big investment. He's a rich kid and he can't book it all, but you know it don't matter anyway. He can rely on the old man's money. He can rely on the old man's money. All right, well, you can rely on us to cut out quick.
Starting point is 03:05:00 That's the drive-thru. Hold on. I had every intention of questions. All right. Good Lord. Listen, ladies and gentlemen. I'm out of breath. I'm like horse. Listen, ladies and gentlemen. I got a lot of problems with you people. No. Listen, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 03:05:23 We are going to do something. I know we want to get back to questions, but we do these reviews, and we actually have a lot of fun with it, too. but they run long. But we talk about other things in the middle. That's right. And I hope that the people don't think we're getting bogged down because we have more fun with the conversation in the middle than we do actually talking about the wrestling. But with that said, we're going to make a concerted attempt to get more questions and more inquiries back on the show as well as more songs in the coming weeks.
Starting point is 03:05:49 But we've been recording a while. We've got to record in a few days and there's more wrestling to watch. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been the drive-through. How do I close this thing out? Say good night, Gracie. Stephen Pinoos says, I could say that. 877-50, Steve. And I'll say goodnight, Gracie, on that.
Starting point is 03:06:07 For Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last. Tally-ho!

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