Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 354

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim talks about Britt Baker's suspension, Shane McMahon & Tony Khan, The Rock & the US Army, Jesse Ventura, ratings, weather and much more! Plus Jim reviews AEW Dynamite & the open of last week's Raw! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hello again, friends! And you are our friends, and welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornedge Drive-Thru right here on another summer's day. You may hear my fan in the background, because it's hot outside, it's hot inside, and we've got hot wrestling talk, everyone's doing stupid shit,

and we're going to talk all about it today. I'm your host of the great Brian last, and here he is, the star of the drive-thru. I'm going really fast here to start. I just realized. The star of the drive-thru, Mr. Jim Cornett.

First of all, I'm not even sure that I'm all that friendly today, and second of all, yeah, you sound like Tony Co-Con. What the fuck? A hundred miles an hour there. I didn't say great. I made sense.

Well, I think friend is your great. Or great is his friend. Learning would be your friend, or what the fuck ever. Thank you, great friend. Brian, I'm an older man now. I'm an older gentleman than I used to be. Many of us around the world are older now than we were previously before in our earlier life.

It's funny how it works out that way. But I'll tell you that I don't know unless I know we have listeners all over the world. Around this fine globe, the panorama of human experience, but unless you're in Beirut, in the middle of a revolution or something, I don't know if you could have had a more stressful, hectic, weak than I've had the, they're conspiring Mother Nature, that old bitty, and the various gods of these things are conspiring to see how much sleep the old man can lose here

and how much stress can go on the old ticker, the old palpitator. and I think I've about got there. You may push me over the edge today. I'll either flatline or cuss you out one of the other. What did I do? I have nothing to do with anything. Not yet, you haven't. Not yet.

I'm never ever causing problems. Well, there's a lot of things. You get all the heat. A lot of things have happened to me this week that have never fucking happened. And I'll tell you, so just real briefly, just real briefly, Monday. I take Harley over to the vet for, her fluids treatment that she has now for her condition and then I come back and I drop her off and I go over to the drugstore and I pick up some prescriptions for Stace's mom because in our

continuing updates she did have her surgical procedure on Monday and is feeling great and everything went well and so that's a good thing and we got her home Monday evening and just in time to have a late dinner and then they were calling Brian for severe storms all over our area from southern and western Indiana all the way through eastern Kentucky, the whole kitten caboodle. And it says it's going to happen overnight.

So you know me, I stay up and I watch the weather on the television and the radar and the warnings and whatever. And they had plenty of warnings out. And they did have bad weather, but other places, we didn't get dick all of nothing here at the castle on Monday night, but I was up until

4.30, quarter to 5 in the morning. So I didn't get a lot of sleep that night, so Tuesday I'm trying to catch up on everything around here. We got another wave of severe storms on Tuesday afternoon that we have to watch, and it does it, pours rain, and the wind blew, but it was nothing

alarming, a lot of thunder and lightning. And there's some the front that was parked over the western plains or that whole gaga, I admit, every day this is going to happen this week, right? Same thing. So Tuesday night, I get a good night's sleep, but Stacey and her mother don't because young Harley picks this day to come down with an allergy attack, is what the vet called it, when I had her back over there Wednesday morning, where she coughed all night, poor little thing, trying to get flim out of her throat. But whereas, you know, Harley is a cute little Pomeranian.

And even her bark sounds like, you know, music, like Beethoven's symphony. Just it's melodic, right? She's a, just the cutest little thing. When she was coughing, it was deep and hoarse and guttural and loud. and it sounded like an Alaskan Malamute. And then she'd go, and that all night long. So,

because Stacey's mother is, you know, so she didn't have to deal with all of our stairs, she's staying in the back room, not in the back room. It's not like a storage unit, but the room in the back of the house. We got her in the shed in the back.

What the hell? Oh, now, come on now. No, the Monroe still haven't moved out of that shed. But no, it's in the back room. where she doesn't have to go up and downstairs, and Stacey is staying out there with her, so if she needs something to run to the kitchen, whatever the case. And Harley likes to be with Stacey.

So she's spinning the night down there, and she coughs all night, keeps them up. So Wednesday morning, I take her over to the vet, and they say, oh, yes, we've got to get the allergy medicine and give her the dropper full of the blah, blah, blah, but it looked down her throat and listen to her little chest, and that's what it was. And by the way, and she's feeling better now, that we've gotten this addressed. but anyway so then I take her back from the vet and then I grab Stacey and take her over to her back doctor

because she's got another one of the shots they give her the treatment for the spinal stenosis and then I bring her back home and then I also stop on the way and get Harley's medicine at that point and then get back home in time for another round of storms where the thunder and the lightning

and the pouring rain in the late afternoon and the blah blah blah and we get finished with that and then comes Thursday and they say okay after today all of this bad weather's going to be out it's just going to be hot but we're not going to have rain

and storms and all this stuff and I'm thinking well so far what I've looked at and what they've forecast it hasn't been that bad and now they're not really forecasted anything oh really bad so we're just going to buzz right through this, right? Well, Thursday, and I'm thinking, by the way, because I kept Harley with me Wednesday night,

I didn't really sleep Wednesday night all night, so that way at least they could get some sleep, but the poor little baby's cough barking kept me up, so I'm there Wednesday, I'm going to turn in early, I'm going to get a good night's sleep, have a nice dinner and, you know, just conk out. right after these storms are over with. And so it starts thundering, and it starts lightninging, inginging. And it does the things,

and then all of a sudden the wind started blowing and the rain started coming down sideways, and then the wind started blowing harder, and then I'm looking at TV, like, where are you people cutting in telling us we're about to blow away, right? They got the little graphic on the bottom of screen of Judge Judy. And all of a sudden shit started falling,

falling from the skies. And the main attraction was a 100-foot-tall poplar tree in my backyard down near the creek that has been there longer than I have that turned over completely out of the ground. And the root system is 15 feet or more up in the air now as this thing is laying on its side,

it's almost halfway across the entire backyard. It's got to be 100 feet. I haven't got a tape measure that big. And then I'm looking around. And remember I've said I had the tree people come and clean everything up and from all the previous storms, cut away all the deadwood, haul off all stick, do the wood chipper. The yard was immaculate.

It looks like somebody took a helicopter load full of leaves and branches and just flew over and just dropped them like leaflets over. fucking Hiroshima. And then I go out front and I believe I've mentioned before the architectural wonder that is this old wizened old maple tree that has withstood every storm we've had here for like 100 years.

And it's got a cute little dogwood growing underneath it that just spreads out because it's going out toward the light. And it's right next to my other ash tree that's over the end of the house and blah and you got to walk under bend under the leaves brian when you walk under the canopy and you get under there and you can watch the squirrels and it's all nice and shady well a big old limb breaks out of that maple tree and falls on the dogwood i still don't know what we're going to have to cut down and what we ain't and our power went out for about three hours i was going to call you on my cell phone and said we may have a problem because

the last storm that we had where we had no power for almost three days was not as bad as this. But anyway, so after all that happened, then I got up this morning and took Stace over for her dental surgery, and then came back, and then went back to the drugstore to pick up her prescriptions, and now I'm speaking to you, which is like having an appointment for a root canal at the dentist. Oh. And at least I'm becoming a medical expert. With the gas? What do you mean with the gas?

With the nitrous oxide? Oh, I thought you're talking about flatulence. No, oh, that's everything you say here on the show. But no, in terms of me being like root canal with nitrous oxide? Without. Well, actually, the nitrous oxide they give you. They must be getting some generic shit because I've never noticed the overwhelming urge to just laugh out loud. That's what they call it, right?

The laughing gas. Laughing gas, yeah. Well, whenever I've been in a dentist office, I've never had the urge to laugh out loud when they were doing anything to me. Well, what about like the prep time or whatever you would call the lead-in to the guy working on you with it? Did you say prick time? What? I said prep time. The prep time.

where, like, you know, you have the gas on for a few minutes before the guy starts doing anything, so you get to just have some fun and ride the roller coaster that is... No, I'm sitting here going, what the fuck is this shit? This shit's nothing. It's fucking, it's making... It's chapping my nostrils. I used to have a really conservative dentist. He's to call it the sweet air.

I always knew I was fucked if he recommend... Like, I think you need some sweet air for this. I'm like, oh boy, he's going to make me hurt. Well, but if he was conservative, what is he dribbling? it out or is he turning that shit up? See, I want to fill up like a fucking balloon and float across the ceiling. If you're going to give it a gas, while the dentist is working on you? Well, he can hold me down. He can sit straddle of me while I'm in the chair.

You want your dentist to straddle you while you're in the chair feeling like you're floating up? Yes. Doesn't everybody do it that way? Like Bob Cottle's microphone, as Howard Bound wants. Hey, he always looks like. He always looks like. He's trying to hold it down as made of helium. It's funny. But no, every time I go to the dentist, it's the same procedure. We're, you know, he doesn't give me the nitrous because I said it doesn't affect me.

He gives me something different. I can't remember what he calls it. But, boy, I take a nap, and every, I wake up, and he'll be zipping up his pants and straightening his shirt and preparing my bill. Like always. Nothing out of the ordinary. All right. Well, we're not going to do it.

that would have been a wonderful transition to another segment about a dentist we have to do today. But back to Happy Talk. Well, that's all I got. I'm fucking miserable. I'm at my wits in. I'm stressed out. I'm going to spend another six or $7,000 probably to get this fucking giant 18-wheeler-sized goddamn tree cut up and hauled out of my backyard and a crater the size of Cleveland filled in.

and then all of the work that we've been doing for the last three months to straighten everything up can be done all over again. I have a feeling of frustration, Brian. So now that's a segue into the wrestling. It certainly is. And like I said, we have several things to talk about. We're going to do a review of dynamite.

We're going to talk about one thing on raw. And as we're recording, a lot of different things happening. Oh, yeah, and don't know anybody out there get your fucking panties all in a bunch that we're only going to talk about one thing on raw because I didn't have three hours to watch Raw this week what we're trying to get my medical degree and you know hide undercover from the wrath of Mother Nature

and the Norse gods of thunder so fuck Raw for this week is what I'd say except for Punk and Drew punk and Drew will go out of our way to watch We will dangle from a precipice by our fingertips to watch those guys. Well, on that topic, why don't we start there at the beginning of the week, Monday Night Raw? That segment specifically, they opened the show. You mentioned Punk and Drew, but there was a third party in there.

A man who decided the way to get over was to wear women's clothing. I don't know what to say anymore about Seth Rollins. He looks like if Miss Marple was a referee with the bun and his hair and the blousey, Yes, what were you going to say? It's like he listened to a bunch of Harry Stiles records and had access to my grandmother's closet. I don't know what the fuck he's doing out there. He guys was better than mine, by the way.

That's the thing, I'm a revolution. And I don't even know who Harry Stiles is. I'm a revolutionary. What was the revolution? You went into your wife's closet and put on her shirt? Like, what the fuck? Well, no, it was the French Revolution. Is that what it was?

That's what now, now we know. The Puffin he served in. He was the goddamn, he was the, the, the lieutenant of Puffy shirts. Kramer's girlfriend was on to something. She was just ahead of her time. The Puffy shirt look. You needed a star to debut it on TV. Jerry Seinfeld kind of killed it.

Now you got Franklin Rollins. But now they've added stripes. I think that's the whole difference. That's the whole difference. But anyway, it was his, it was his promo. And then he basically just said he's there to have the other guys talk, but I'll let you explain this. Well, he was there to have the other guys talk,

and then he talked a fucking lot. But the thing, this was the first, what, 25 minutes of the show. And to be honest, if everybody, I wouldn't mind three hours of nothing but talking if everybody was as good as, well, I'll say punk and Drew and Seth in some instances when he's motivated and a little bit more serious. This time, I think he was... He was really trying to work on something here, but anyway, he came out, did Seth Franklin Rollins,

in his referee shirt with the puffy sleeves and the zebra boots and a blah, blah, blah. And again, the hair in the bun and, you know, he would make a wonderful fucking pie brand. Like old grandma Proctor's baked apple pies. if the picture was of him instead of old grandma Proctor. Have you ever had a grandma Proctor pie? I haven't. The bearded weirdo, you think is the brand they should go with? Well, now that you mention it,

well, no, weirdos already taken by the Republican Party these days. But nevertheless, so he calls for these two morons to come out. And suddenly you hear the strains of Lackamuselini. they came to see punk walk around a ring on TV Yeah, strain was the right word Well, that's the strains of the music That's an inside music industry term

You wouldn't Oh no, of course not Excuse me, Gersh No, well, I'll just stick with me, kid And I'll make sure you got all the You're all up with all the hepp lingo Anyway, he goes around the rig, He shakes his hands or shakes his,

he shakes the fans hands but he takes his time and he gets the response and blah, blah, blah, and also they got three hours. What's the fuck? This is going to be the best thing on it. And then when Drew comes out, he's got heat. And it's what we were talking about. On the last show, we did the last review of this thing.

Each one of these guys has perfect reasons within the program not to like each other. Baby face or heel, it doesn't matter because a couple of them have been both. and so it's all worked out that way, but they all got history. And it's a perfect three-way type of thing for something like this, where everybody's on a comparable level, everybody can talk and hold their end up, and everybody's got a legitimate issue. So if this was, can you imagine if we didn't ever see three ways?

And then they started this and had a three-way. Unfortunately, they've been prostituted, but they don't mean as much as they used to anymore, but still when you get something like this, you don't go with it. Anyway, and the rule is that punk and Drew can't touch each other or him

or the SummerSlam matches off, so punk bails out to the announced desk, so he's not scared of them, he's worried about what he's going to do. And, you know, cess's fucking standpoint is that he's going to be in charge. He doesn't have to be the referee.

He can walk out too, but he wants to see him fight. And then Drew gets again into his whole thing where he's so smarmy and snarky and said he's trying to turn Seth on punk. He's the real enemy.

And you know, Seth's response is, well, you're an idiot, but we both hate punk, but I hate you as much as punk does. So blah, blah, blah. There's only one rule in the match. Seth says you two guys are going to listen everything I say, I'm the boss,

and he gets very flippant. And then I said that's when he was, if he really hates Drew that bad and punk that bad, could he be a little more not over-the-top Jack Nicholson, Seth Rollins? What do you think? I thought that tone that he said from the beginning was that over-the-top Rollins that he had kind of for a little bit, for some of the serious stuff that he's been involved with,

with Cody and various things. he takes it down a notch and it works a little better. Yeah. But here he's as flamboyant as he's ever been. What I've, flamboyant, you think of Liberace. Do you really think of Seth's flamboy? I think of him when he first gets in the ring and he gets on the mic and he says, I'm a revolution.

Well, no, that's not flamboyance. That's more like fucking loss of oxygen to the brink. brain, isn't it? Flatulence, maybe. Flatulence. And then Punk, he's not really happy about Seth being a referee because he said to him, he said, you being a referee, to me is a hat on a hat. And now, you know, I like the way that this young man turns a

phrase. We got to remember that one. I agree with him. I said it last week. We don't need this referee. But he tells Seth, one thing I don't want is I don't want any help from you under any circumstances. and then Drew tells punk, well, you better worry about me and compares punk to Charles Manson. Again, Drew is tremendous. Where has this guy been all our lives? Under Vince McMahon's creative umbrella, I guess.

And also doing things with people he didn't have a legitimate history with. I think this is more than just Vince isn't there holding him back or making him do wacky things and taking his sword out of the stone or whatever the fuck was happening there. with that. I think this is also that there's a real history between these two. And because of that, it brings out more real feeling. Well, they went back and forced some more and, and Punk said that Drew continuously dumbs himself out of position. And he fired up at him and I, you know, I've got hard. I got the people chanting my name. What do you got? And then Drew, holds up

punk's bracelet and they go nose to nose and they're trash talking to each other but you can't hear it it's not on mic at least and then they play the music and out they go because they can't fight each other

or elsewise the match would be off and that would just be just not good but they go from this again 25 minutes with three main event guys everybody's listening to everything everybody's reacting to everything that they're supposed to react to

and then they go from that to the Judgment Day clubhouse where Liv Morgan has vandalized their video games and as well it's a good time for me to go to another doctor's office and that's where I turned her off but... Liv must have been on the weed well you know she she must have been on something one way or another she's grumpy i'll tell you that

but they're up here and then they go and then it becomes saved by the bell again but would you say punk and drew is the real summer slam main event because all due respect to Cody and solo i think people are looking forward to that to see if roman's coming to come

back whereas people Yeah, see, that's the thing. Are looking forward to punk and Drew because punk and Drew are in it and Seth is the referee. I think punk and Drew is the match people most want to see. I think the

drama and story of the bloodline developing is the incident or story they want to see the most. Yes. And they're going to have to watch Cody wrestle so low to get there.

But maybe he'll wrestle so high instead of so low. Oh, boy. So high, you can't get over. So low, you can't get so wide you can't get around.

One nation under a groove. Get a death just for the funk of it. Again, I don't know if you've got that groove and I don't know if One Nation would be under your groove, but that was raw, ladies and gentlemen. And on the topic of WWE, Jim, did you see this past week?

A lot of the listeners were sending it in like we wouldn't see it. Jesse Ventura at Raw backstage. Triple H greets him upon arrival. There's video of him with Punk. Punk did an interview where he said, Jesse said that I think I knew if punk went back, then it's safe for me to go back or something like that. What are your thoughts on Jesse Ventura being welcomed back into the fold of the WWE being open to being welcome back into the fold now that Vince isn't there.

And again, Jesse Ventura back where, you know, a lot of people first discovered him and fell in love with wrestling with him doing the color commentary in WWE. Well, I mean, and he also said in these many words that Jesse did that he's back because Vince is gone. And now he felt like that it was, you know, it was a new organization that he could, speak to apparently. And with Triple H, you know, again, Jesse Ventura

was dealing with Vince McMahon almost 15 years before Triple H met either one of them. So, you know, he didn't have the heat with Triple H himself. It was head guy to head guy. And

I think also with Punk, it's the same thing that he said. With Vince gone, It felt like a different place, different thing. And so I'm sure they had a interesting discussion about all the many reasons why that Vince was fucking poison to him. But Ventura makes a ton of sense because of the, he was the voice of that era, the last boom that they had before the attitude era, the 80s.

And they could make a ton of money on merchandise. and all the various things and, you know, they were in St. Paul so it didn't hurt. I think, well, Ventura lives in Mexico or somewhere now, doesn't he? Or has he moved back? I believe he still lives in Mexico now,

but he may, I think he does plenty of things in the United States. Well, you've been to St. Paul, he was probably visiting the in-laws or some kind of shit. You know, the old Minnesota, the old Minnesota gang. I was just looking for the truth.

Yeah, it's out there somewhere. So it's, I'm, I would think it's not like they flew him in. If they'd have flown him in to have a big official meeting, they probably would have brought him to Stanford and gone to the office. But if he came to the show there, where they could all sit down because he was in town, that makes sense. But anyway, yes, with the...

I want to talk about MI5's involvement in the disappearance of Moon Dog King. Poor Sailor White gets none of the... gratitude he deserves, but what I'm trying to say is, Jesse, yes, with the new organization, they're making billions upon billions of dollars. You know that they can do all kinds of shit with the retro figures and or the merchandising again. Wouldn't it be funny if they made a bunch of money for everybody, Ventura and the company and everything else on some type of best of something of Jesse when that was the bone

a contention that first got sideways between he and Vince was his royalties that he didn't get and had to sue for. There's a whole bunch of Jesse Ventura action figures they could do that people like me would gobble up. Well, and even if you don't want to eat them, if you just want to play with them. In the purchasing sense.

In the purchasing sense. That's right. Gobble, gobble, well, direct from Gobbler's Knob, ladies and gentlemen, it is the Jesse Ventura show. But no, so that's good to say. see another prodigal son

returns home to the WWF. You know, no heel commentator that I could think of off the top of my head since Jesse Ventura had the credibility

of Jesse Ventura. Like Bobby Heenan was different because Bobby Heenan was willing to be the fool. Like Jesse Ventura there was never any of that. He would argue.

Yeah. He would argue with Vince about, oh, you like your favorites. You know, he would argue with him about that shit. him and Monsoon is like the most underrated,

I think fans of WWF at that time love it, but underrated teams because they didn't do that much together. But there was this weird respect. Like they would joust with each other. Jesse Burtura would, you know, ask Monson about wrestling Jim Alondis or something. And Monsu would have some snarky reply. And they were really fun together.

But Ventura had credibility. And he even would say things about some of the wresters you would watch as a kid. it was obvious you couldn't deny their talent, even though they were a baby face, he wouldn't just bury them. He would say who had talent, he would point it out. I think he's still to this day the standard for a heel commentator. Well, Jesse had several things, one, the voice, were just, you're tremendous, and the delivery.

That's right. And... One, two, and a three. He was another guy that early on was influenced by Billy Graham, but he... had a completely different voice and cadence and style of delivery. It was with the muscles and the boas and the blonde hair and whatever that, you know, Graham influenced him. But also, when Jesse started doing color, he pretty much knew that his wrestling career was over.

So he was going to establish himself as a personality and as an announcer rather than not one of the announcer, But maybe the color guy, but he was going to get his own personality over because he, the reason why he transitioned into announcing was he had blood clots. And he, when I saw, I've told you that story not long ago, when I saw him at the airport, when he had just done some of his first commentary, he said, yeah, you know, I've been out for six months. I can't do the fucking voice. But I've had blood clots. They blame Agent Orange in Vietnam.

I don't know whether that was true or not. But if he couldn't wrestle anymore, he knew that he could get over that way, and he was going to be one of the bigger stars in the company, even if it was an announcer. And that's the first time that a real long-term announcer, even an ex-wrestler that's now an announcer, was still, you know, fully capable of being one of the biggest stars in the company.

You know, Bruno was legend, but not as an announcer. Ventura could transition right with the outfits and the voice and the delivery and the vocabulary, you know, it still worked. See, that was one of the teams. It was McMahon, Ventura, and Bruno. It would basically be Vince and Jesse calling the match

and then Bruno would do the replay and then Jesse would make fun of Bruno. And Bruno would be such a baby face. He couldn't really fight back. He wouldn't, you know, hey, you, you're not nice. You know, he wouldn't really say anything. But Ventura also an important role in terms of behind the scenes in wrestling for what he attempted, what didn't happen, and, you know, he tried to unionize before

WrestleMania 2. Vince McMahon revealed under oath in a deposition, or during the lawsuit when Ventura sued for royalties, that Hulk Hogan was the person that turned in Ventura. as wanting to start the union. Damn dropper Hogan. He was sent home. He ended up doing Predator, getting him into the Screen Actors Guild now.

He's got his union. And NBC, Dick Ebersol, they had a hit with Saturday night's main event. You know, this is really a period of time where S&L, it's at the end of the Ebersol years, about to have Lauren Michaels come back. Wrestling was doing better

or as good as some of those S&Ls when Warren Michaels came back. Ventura was a big star on that show and he was a big reason for the success. Again, I always say about Excalibur, Chivani or Michael Cole in the past, whoever, you need a strong commentating team. And if you have the right people, it works. And they demand that he came back. And Jesse ended up leaving when he got his own video game deal.

And Vince tried to kill it or wanted him to kill it. And he refused, and he was fired. And the probably the last time that they may have been able to do something to, I don't know, force a union, but at least force Vince to do something, was around about that era because Jesse realized, what if everybody on the card right before WrestleMania said, no, fuck it, we ain't going to be doing that unless you do this for us.

And Hogan to protect the position that he had. That's right. Because he wasn't going to go anywhere because he was making all. the money and he and Vince were bosom buddies and he was the chosen one, he got wind of it and told Vince about it so Vince could shut it down before it came time to nut cutting time, as they used to say.

And, you know, since then, I mean, now it's almost impossible because you'd never get back then, if you got 30 guys to go in on that, Vince would have been powerless. Today, you'd have to get a hundred and fucking 75 or how many they've got. Even what Jesse opened up with his lawsuit win, royalties, those are pretty much gone now because of the changing formats.

Yeah. And that was the thing that Jesse also, and I can tell you this from personal experience, Jesse won the case that he should have been paid royalties on these VHS releases, which is what they were back then. but nobody really knew in the middle 80s still the guys were on the road I knew I was a fucking video freak right but nobody really knew

what kind of market anything on VHS was going to be they were making towns whatever it's only been a few years we got these things but you know Vince knew and so he never put royalties in the contract and then when Jesse went back and won this, point being there was a clause at that point. He couldn't, Vince couldn't withhold royalties from the talent, but there were clauses in contracts that,

depending on what kind of contract, an announcer contract, or an employee contractor, even a talent contract. You didn't get royalties if you did color commentary. And that was the Jesse Ventura clause. Because think about that, the announcers are on every fucking thing. so they would have literally got a royalty for every goddamn match

that's ever fucking released, right? One of the, or two of the announcers at least. So announcers didn't get royalties, only the wrestlers. And then for years, they edited out Jesse's audio when they put stuff out so they wouldn't have to pay them. Which was awkward at a lot of times. Yeah, no one really wants to hear a gorilla monsoon or Vince having a conversation with themselves.

It's really weird. But Jesse Ventura back in the fold, and hopefully they'll be, you know, again, he's an older guy, he's not really kept up with the product from what we've heard. So you can't really expect him to go out there and be Jesse Ventura of 35 years ago. But it's just good, I guess, to have him there for, like you said, appearances, merchandise. Well, yeah, and I don't know how many, actually,

he may go to WrestleMania or do something at Access or, you know, Hall of Fame ceremony or whatever, something like that. I don't think he's going to be just popping up on TV every so often, but I'm sure they can figure out a way to use his name, likeness, reputation, and the vast amounts of video they've got to make some kind of money out of it. Or a biography, Jesse Ventura. Hey, you know, it would be the ultimate way to move past Vince McMahon and show the world

that you've done it? Bring Dr. D. David Schultz back into the show. apologize to him for killing his career. Let's see what that does. That'll be the ultimate sign that Vince has no involvement. When they were going to do that oral history of WWE a few years ago, I don't know what happened to that project. It was a major project.

The first rule WWE gave for their participation was no David Schultz. He cannot be interviewed for this point. So let's get him back there, I think, next. Yeah, well, and then they could do a two-pack of the action figures. David Schultz and John Stossel. Complete with slap in action and ear bandage. See, unless you want to pay Stossel, it kind of has to just be generic mustache announcer man,

I think, to make it work. Well, you pretty much just described John Stossel. A deluxe edition with Fuji in the background and the iron cheek in the background watching. I got to see this shit. Let me go to the hallway and see what's about to happen. He's going to talk to Schultz. Oh, God.

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Well, Jim, speaking of... Sitting on shelves? Speaking of sitting on shelves. Before we get to A.E.W. Dynamite, let's talk about a story that broke before A.E.W. Dynamite. A picture. very obviously intentionally put out there. Provocatively posed.

Yeah, was put out there showing Tony Kahn in a state of shock, I guess, his hands covering his face. Or not covering his face, but how do you describe it? He's... Okay, he's sitting at a, like a conference table or a boardroom table, and he's got his, like elbows on a table in front of it. both his hands are up like he was looking through his fingers at something while covering his face and then somebody yelled, hey, Tony, and he turned around and looked to the left of him.

That's what it looked like to me. And to the left of him in the room, at least in this picture, you could see part of a person with a very deep tan or at least their beat red or I don't know what's happening there, but Shane McMahon. purportedly this was taken in an airport and it comes off stories that Jim Ross, I think, mentioned somewhere about Shane McMahon asking someone about AEW

and then it came out, I think, that it was Sasha Banks or Mercedes-Money. That was the person he ran into at an airport. He's running into a lot of people at the airport. I don't know what's happening. Well, but you haven't mentioned the photographer of that picture of Tony con across the table from Shane McMahon.

Apparently that was Mercedes Monet, correct? Mercedes Moon has claimed that she took the picture and we have no reason to doubt her because why would you claim that shitty looking poorly framed picture if you didn't take it? Yeah, who else would Shane not charge? Yeah, but again, people are taking,

oh my God, now that totally. you it was going to happen? No. Mercedes Moan like Shane. And Mercedes Moan is making a ton of money plus getting the use of the private jet and who knows what else from AEW and Tony Con. And again, they were in an airport. It didn't look like if you had if you had come to a business meeting to discuss

some major shit, you'd be sitting down talking about it, if you were going to have a picture taken and distributed publicly, you wouldn't have one of the talent take a shitty picture of part of y'all with their phone.

It would be like Triple H does when he's shaking hands with people. The photo was taken on July 29th, Arlington, Texas. And there you, because Arlington is very close to the DFW airport. And that's where they're having their residency. and if you're flying across country,

you've got to fly in and out of there or through there or whatever in many flights from many airlines. So I think, hey, it's another deal. Shane was coming through. Hey, Shane, would you like to meet Tony? All right. I still say, no,

Shane McMahon will not be working in a wrestling capacity for AEW. In a wrestling capacity means as an on-screen wrestler or in any way with the company, period. Well, no, I mean, what else do they do? Fucking manufacture goddamn washing machines? No, he's not going to wrestle.

He's not going to announce. He's not going to manage. He's not going to be an executive? An executive. Does Shane want to go back to WWE? Do you think Shane would use something like this as a tool, a public relations tool to make WWE say, we don't want a McMahon over an AW?

We don't want a McMahon over an AW. We don't want a McMahon on our show, but we also don't want one over there. Boy, you know. Apparently the rumor is he's wanted to come back and they have not really been open to it. That, there may be, if he's tried to talk to him already, and boy, if you can't have a good sit down with your brother-in-law, then Christmas must be goddamn awkward. Awkward. Then maybe that there could be something there where he's stringing this guy along or just being seen.

Well, in the same way Jerry Jarrett took the Russian. What was his name to the WD? When he was working for TNA. Oh, Oleg Prudius. Yeah, he was a Purdy one, wasn't he? Oleg Prudius, I think, was his name, yeah. He was very prudish also. It was very, very prudish.

He's actually a very nice guy. But Jerry Jarrett wanted to get out of TNA. He wanted Dixie to fire him. He wanted to be done with it. and they wouldn't so he took the Russian and recommended him to Vince and had pictures taken there is Shane doing the opposite?

Is he just all right, I'll take this guy's picture with him and I'll meet with him because Mercedes wants me to but deep down they may be a fear that I will go to AEW. Well Shane McMahon issued a statement he sent this missive to bully Ray apparently on his show

Tony and I were connected through a mutual friend and we had a great meeting. See, he really is trying to buddy up to me. He used the word great. We talked about many things, but mostly about our shared love for the business and the rewards and challenges of working with family. I congratulated him on the five-year anniversary of AEW and look forward to how he evolves the business moving forward. And I signed my action figure for him. I mean, you know, again, I don't even really put a whole lot of faith in the idea that Shane is trying to strong arm the WWE and this tactic to bring him back to do something.

If he wasn't trying to do something, why is he meeting with Shane in Texas? Because he was flying through and Mercedes asked him to meet her Mark boss. I mean, it could be that simple. but I'm not saying that I don't think Shane might not want to might not want to go back and do something with the WWE he does love the wrestling business and he loved performing and his way and etc but that's why I've said before

he always looked at any other company as a step down even WCW when it was goddamn competitive was still but it's not the WWF he was into the mindset that Vince had with, you know, the Kevin Duns and everybody that we are the only thing that matters. And it would be a come down for him, I think, in his mind, well, and literally, to work for any other company.

It would be the second rate, you know, second place. He doesn't need the money for fuck's sake. So that's why I think that he's being nice, he's being nice, and maybe stirring some other people up. And again, without knowing the conversation, you could also imagine that Shane McMahon at this point in time, looking back, probably has a lot of, I don't know if regrets are the word,

but just thoughts about how things could have been different if he had had his hand on more of the pie. And it's not going to happen in WWE. You know, if they brought him back, it would be as a performer, right? I mean, they're not looking at an executive capacity, I wouldn't think. With AW, you know, again, this is, It's just crazy talk, but if Shane had something he wanted to prove, if Shane had something he wanted to do, not necessarily as an on-screen wrestler.

But, you know, Shane never got to run a wrestling company, and he's not going to get to run Tony's wrestling company. Well, that's what I was about to say. But if Shane wanted to be, if Tony knows he needs serious executives, and Shane wants to be a wrestling executive, AEW is the only home for him. Well, but that means that he just can't be a wrestling executive to me because he, if he was looking at that television show, based on things that he has said about other things

to me 25 years ago at the time, he would say, well, this is a bunch of indie bullshit, basically in so many words or maybe not, maybe different words. But that's why I just don't see it. if Shane cannot be involved in the number one company the company his father started if he was being courted to take over and run for Tony Khan AEW in its entirety then I might believe he's talking to him because he might want to run an entire wrestling company from the top down like his dad did and maybe see if he could prove that he could be competitive,

but nobody, the guys get to do their own shit in the ring, but nobody gets to pry the book or the ability to hire and fire wrestlers or the other things that come along with the guy that actually runs a company. Tony's not going to let a death grip of any of that shit go. So... Do you think Shane's hurt in the wrestling business in 2024,

again, whatever he would want to do, wherever that may be, with the name McMahon. You know, he's never come out and said, no, my father was doing shit I don't want to prove of and I want nothing to do with it. We have no idea where he stands with anything, but that's probably one of the reasons why WWE may not even consider it

was they may not want McMahon. McMahon on TV as a character. Well, but Stephanie McMahon was at the Hall of Fame, and Stephanie McMahon was introduced at WrestleMania. She's a Helmsley. She's a Helmsley. She's a home.

Well, Shane could get married to, Shane could be Shane McMahon, Mazzola. He'd just take his wife's name. I don't know about that. And he could come out covered in corn oil. Well, tell me that wouldn't have worked in the attitude era. You know, I don't know. Here comes Mazzola man covered in corn oil. I hate that.

to see what Pete Gas would have been wearing, but yeah, I don't know. But that's, again, maybe if Tony was talking to Shane, and again, that would be a risk. It might not be as big a risk as Tony has been, but if Tony was talking to Shane about running the whole thing, I might could buy it. But Shane's not just going to show up on the TV just to make intermittent appearances as Shane McMahon. Shane McMahon does not need the money, regardless of how much money that Tony would pay him. He's not going to do something full time. And he's not going to be an executive where he's sitting there with other executives, to be quite honest, that are either 20 years younger than he is or have never goddamn farted in a fucking major arena before Tony started renting him for him.

he's not going to be one of that gang so I just don't see that it fits he's he's too big too old too too proud and doesn't need the money so figure it out from there what do you think of the decision to leak the photo

because obviously it was a conscious effort to get that photo out there and get people talking about it well again you know if Mercedes is standing by with her cell phone ready to snap a picture it's just it was an odd if you were trying to give the impression

you were negotiating would you have Shane standing there in casual wear leaning over the table and Tony looking like goddamn Professor Irwin Corey you know and I don't I think you just hear they're both in the same room that kind of thing okay yeah go ahead and send it out Sasha

yeah that's fine well if it was supposed to look like a big time negotiation. I'd have had some papers on the desk and both guys sitting there with pins in their hands and paying attention to what's going on. Well, more just, they were going into a dynamite, which we're about to talk about, an AEW dynamite against the Olympics, so you've got to figure it'll take some kind of

hit. They're in the middle of negotiating, the exclusivity, the period with Warner Brothers' discovery where they have exclusive talks is over. that's not to preclude them from any further talks. It's just now they can talk to anyone. And they need buzz. They kind of have a stretch where something happens on dynamite. And by the next week, everything moves on.

You move on, you forget what happened. Everything moves on. There's no real big show to show to show great build of things right now. And who knows if that's part of the motive just to get buzz in the program. but what did you think of AEW Dynamite this past week? Oh, me, let me... Let me consult with my notes. Well, here they are.

Yeah, what are you beating them up? What the hell's going on? I'm consulting with them, and they're going to talk. I'll get it out of them. Um, the opening segment, or the opening... I get the interview and then the match, and then the afterbirth and the blah, blah, blah. MJF is again the most captivating speaker

on the program amongst their talent roster or anybody and they've successfully turned him back heel now but now if you start to listen it's kind of like you know deja vu all over again

MJF was a tremendous heel on the microphone and in the ring with the psychology of his matches. But he was so entertaining that people started cheering. Then the nitwits decided, well, because they're cheering him, we ought to turn him baby face when they were cheering him because he was the antithesis of a baby face and because of the fact that he was so good at being a heel, but once you turn that guy baby face, as we've gone over this many times, then you got the problems of how to keep him over. because as a baby face, he either can't do or needs to reapply the things that he did that caused him to be popular to begin with.

And finally, Babyface MGF was not a long-term thing, and they realized this, and after his injury, they switch him back heel. But now, again, he's so good at what he says that people start laughing anyway and they start liking it anyway. but this is probably the best spot that he can be in because you're letting him be the real MJF and as long as you've got a baby face that's strong that you can put him against, it's okay. But when you don't, then that poor baby face is just not over

as much as MJF is going to get blistered. Does that make sense? I think so. Okay. So here's the thing. Osprey, they like him. The fans like him. They view him as a top guy.

They're still cheering for him despite the bizarre booking, who's in the heel group and blah, blah, blah. But I'm afraid that the more they let him talk, the less people will like him and the more they'll just like MJF. Because MJF promoted Osprey and, you know, promote South Carolina but when he said South Carolina you trailer park trashes you

meth heads a lot of the people yes we are it's like when I went to Philadelphia when I started getting smart up there in my intro I said you're the ugliest looking bunch of people I've ever seen yes we fucking suck but that's fine

as long as when Osprey comes out you know he can he can carry it but he came a he had fire. He had passion, but he runs out to the ring to a big pop and MGF Bails and runs back to the entrance. And Osprey got so complicated. And with that mouthful of gravel. And at one point he's trying, he's screaming because he wants to have aggression and animosity and passion and all that stuff.

but he's screaming in that accent and not making his sentences short enough so at one point if you analyze what he said I swear to God he said and there's not one fan amongst you here that can possibly deny that MJF is an American hero he said it backwards I mean go back but the longer that he talked

that's because there was so many qualifiers and commas and sub-references. So the longer that he talked, the more that he was losing me and the fans, I think. And he was scre-and-th, first they were with him. And then they're like, what did he say, Ethel? Well, the other thing, too, how big is his pop when he comes out? Because if you notice, his music starts with a giant pop built into the song. So I can never tell how big his pop is versus the loud crowd boom. that he'll get almost like Mercedes-Mone style in his song.

Well, but also they were cheering him when he started talking until he goddamn puzzled him and lost him, and they couldn't. And can you imagine a PA microphone in an arena with that accent and everything? And when he went home with his closing line, when he hit his point, he finished it, and you could tell the fans didn't really know what his point was, so they just started chanting USA. and the whole thing. And by the way, they're chanting USA, does that mean they're cheering MJF?

Well, no, he was trying to say that, see, here's the thing. Right? He's trying to tell this story where MJF isn't really an American hero, and so is MJF. He's not really, you know, we hate you, you're not our American hero, you just claim to be. That's what it's supposed to be. But Osprey, since he's from England, he's talking about, I love my flag, just like the Yanks, the Yanks, the Yanks love their flag. But so he's trying to, but at the same time, it's just so fucking confusing.

You know, of all the things AEW has failed at, it's articulating this U.S. versus England feud on multiple different occasions now. Yes. And they're, they didn't really need one with this because the, the USA guy in Wembley is the fucking heel anyway. so we really didn't need to go back to the Revolutionary War and dig up old wounds. But MJF would get it back on track a little bit at the end, but he just, that's a thing. I thought Osprey was a little bit verbose here when he didn't need to be going on and on and confusing people.

But then... I don't think you should use Brob more than once in a sentence. I noticed a few times where I was like, Brov, I'll tell you another than brov! And I was like, okay, too many too soon. Well, and I know he's trying to, he's trying to get that over because it bro works so well for shit stain. It's made him a fortune.

But if MJF finished the promo by saying tonight, in this shit hole, and they were being a liberal on the language again, I wonder if it's just when it depends on who's on the button. But tonight in this shit, whole everybody dies, including the ratings, because here came Lance Archer. And I like Lance Archer, but he is a guy who's never won a big match in AEW. He hadn't been on TV in ages.

And it's just, he comes out to do a job. And, but basically he came out to do the job by kicking the shit out of Will Osprey from the start, opened with a choke slam, foiled his dive, slammed him on the floor, rag-dalled him. They went to the break, they came back, he was still kicking his shit out of him. And Osprey would do a flip every once a while or a kick and get cut off again. And finally, Archer did, went for a choke slam off the top rope, and Osprey did the Spanish fly, which makes no sense.

They're both just taking a goddamn dive. off the top rope. But Osprey hit him with a Spanish fly off the top rope, two count. Cody Cutter, two count. Then Archer just came back with a clothesline. I got a two count, and I'm right, seriously? Osprey with a DDT and hit his back elbow finish.

It didn't look good, but it really never does. And Archer kicked out at one. And then Osprey just hits another elbow, one, two, three. When did Steve Austin stunner a guy covering him, he kick out at one, and he give him another stunner and beat him one, two, three. When did that happen? It never happened. And the other thing is, like, you'll get a big pop for the finish no matter what it is,

but there are multiple times we've seen it, and this was another example where what should have been the finish and the fans were ready for it to be the finish. Yeah. Wasn't the finish. And then you just hit with another finish and the pop isn't the same. You know what the indie guys will say? well, we're crossing them up. They don't expect that.

Well, no shit, because it doesn't make any sense. Besides that, no, get it right. That used to be the Booker's instruction to the main event guys. Get it right, go home. I mean, if whatever time when you got the people in it, it was right, it was ready to go, go home, do your finish, and you're done. And they cannot get it right when the people,

are really ready to blow and they've seen wow, what a one, two ah! And then later on a small package. Yay! What the fuck? But anyway, after Osprey unsurprisingly defeated Lance Archer, then MJF jumped in and grabbed Osprey and gave him

a brain buster. And then he put on his ring and drew back and Kyle Felcher hit the ring. And this, not the, not the ring on MJF's hand, but came into the squared circle, and ran MJ off again. So now MJF has run from Osprey. Now he's running from Felcher. And this began another long interview segment.

And again, also, did you see what Mr. Felcher was wearing? I don't recall offhand, but I saw it obviously because I watched it. Well, he's trying to get personality. Personality. Instead of being as bland as he was, he had. Dress shoes with no socks, really tight jeans, a midriff-bearing t-shirt. And so he's apparently adopting the personality of an defeat douchebag. It looked with the fucking white hair.

I don't know what's going on here, but now he's cutting a fucking promo on MJF. And then Don Callis gets in a ring. You know, the top heel manager that never manages anymore that has a group of people, that he never corners and we never see him with, but he comes out in interview segments when they want to do something it doesn't have anything to do with his group or when they want out of it.

Remember Osprey said, hey, Don, I'd like to get out of the group, okay. Well, now Felcher tells Don Callis that Osprey is his best friend and he needs help. And Feltcher says asshole and they censor it 10 seconds later or tried to, but they missed it. So now, go ahead. Well, what do you think about that?

The fact that baby face needs help against one person? What, yeah, I'm still trying to figure out who the fucking heels are and Callis's fucking deal. Because Callis is the nicest heel manager I've ever seen all of a sudden. And so now another member of Callis's heel group is a baby face telling him that another one of the baby faces needs help against MJ. because he's a big bully, I guess. And then

Kyle starts doing a promo like he's a badass. And they're in South Carolina. People are farting because he looks like a fucking tampon. He's not goddamn you know, bruiser

Brody. And again, Kyle was trying with the aggression and the animation and the emotion and everything. It was better than Osprey because his accent is not so thick. You can understand the words coming out of his mouth. But it wasn't earth-shattering because it's Kyle Feltcher and nobody gives a shit.

And the people are kind of eh. And then they did build it up where Kyle wanted MGF right now, and MGF started milking it and taking his shirt off and taking his watch off or whatever and then said no, when people were up, he said, next week on TV. All right. So why does Don Callis never manage the guys in his group? He just comes out to let him out of their commitments.

Well, what did you think of this whole parade of infamy here? Where does the parade start exactly for this? Well, the whole MJF and Marble Mouth Osprey and the match with Lance Archer, where Osprey proved the new multimillion-dollar acquisition proved that it takes everything that he can possibly do to beat a guy that we never see that never wins a big match. I thought MJF was good.

I think Osprey's energy is good, but he goes on too long. He's someone, whether in the ring at times, but certainly on the mic, you should give people less. Because if you get something less and it's really good, you don't get to that point a few minutes in where you're like, all right, he's still going. I'm not as enthusiastic for him as I was a few minutes ago.

With Fletcher, I've been impressed by him in the ring lately. With that said, his look is ridiculous. He's part of the heel stable in the middle of whatever drama thing is going to happen with him and Osprey. And I think my biggest problem is MJF, once again, seemingly, being used to elevate someone or try to elevate someone. And I think, while that's the role of a veteran in a wrestling company, and MJF at this point is the veteran of AEW,

I think MJF should be working with top guys. And I know AEW has a top guy problem. Osprey for them right now is a top guy. But whether it's Daniel Garcia or Fletcher right now, the way he's been used, I've never seen him win ever. Ever. You know, that's my only, that's my biggest issue booking wise big picture. As I hate MJF running from another low card baby face slash question mark slash heel, who knows,

that isn't even over with their audience. He should only be running from people that are over right now, not from people that people don't know. No one knows. He's been on their show, but does the audience know who Kyle Fletcher is? But if M.JF was only running from people that are over, he wouldn't get very much exercise in that company. that's a bigger problem and that's a different problem and it doesn't mean that's the problem. They keep using MJF because of that because there aren't main eventers for him to work with. He keeps being used to elevate other people.

Here, let's let you work with MJF so that he can cut the promo for you and tell people why that you're something. Sometimes they cut to MJF on the stage while the other guy's talking. And you could tell the guys just talking gibberish and MJF you can read his mind. mind. You can just say it's like, the fuck is this guy saying right now? What the hell? Jesus Christ. How am I going to talk around this? But, but look, that's whatever we want to say about it. It's the highlight of AEW TV right now. The stuff with MJF, we can nitpick and pick it apart and with Osprey, but it's the best thing on AEW right now. It has the most energy of

anything in AEW right now. That's not saying much, but it's the highlight of the show, isn't it? Now here's the problem Osprey's got to win at Wembley Stadium or they'll set the seats on fire so did they agree to do this just a quick you win one and an all win one because Tony had fucked up

his timing and his preparation for Ospre to be able to win something else big like the world title at Wembley but they can't have a third match right now because neither one of those guys needs to lose twice to the other guy right now so they're going to have to leave it at one and one and then milk a rematch potentially for way farther on down the line

at which point Tony will probably have booked that into irrelevancy but you see what I'm saying Osprey can't lose twice to MJF this early in his run and MJF having just switched can't lose twice to Osprey. Is Osprey in storyline reasonably mad enough do you think to whip out the Tiger Driver 91 at Wembley or is that too? Is it too early for that? And by the way, they keep talking about it. They throw out that name Excalibur who's so awful as a commentator. Tiger Driver 91, no one knows what it is. That's the thing. If you traded tapes in the 90s and we're watching

all you can, you know what it is. It's. It's never really been established in the U.S. on national TV. They should, if they're going to do this, why aren't there videos explaining it, showing it, talking about why it's devastating? Talking about why do you call it a tiger driver and why is there a number to it? Yeah, and why is he afraid? What is he afraid of doing it for? What is the reason?

Well, no, they explained that one week and that, you know, he hurt the other guy so he don't want to hurt anybody again. They explained it one week and then... Where's the video? You know. But, again, Tiger Driver, it's like the Michinoku driver and the, that are named after people that this, especially this audience doesn't know from 30 years ago.

Because many of them weren't born then. And they could easily... Mr. Pile Driver, Mr. Pyle is upset about what's happened to Pile Driver. Everyone's using a Pile Driver for something. They could easily give it, its own name that that guy does, the stone cold stunner, right? Everybody's using it, but it's not the stone cold stunner unless Steve Austin uses it.

Don't have the guy steal a fucking finish from a Japanese wrestler that nobody saw from 30 years ago that nobody's seen in this fucking day and age and environment. Make it a new name that only this guy does and then get that fucking holdover for God's sake. Yeah. But you asked me the question about the Tiger Driver, I would have him come out and say,

you know what, fuck the tiger driver. Fuck his fucking neck. I'm going to drop. I'm going to break his, I'm a tiger driver twice. He's fucking, stole my title belt.

He fucking hit me in the head with a goddamn souped up diamond breast knuckle. I'm going to drop him on his head and laugh about it. Right in my own hometown in London and home country, wherever the fuck he's from,

Wembley, because MGAF deserves it. We have good health care, brov yeah you know he can say that we've got good health care unlike in your country we've got good health care and you're going to need it well see that's the problem that's the thing is you can't have a baby face be a big pussy i don't want to hurt him fuck he hurts you he's a heel you fucking dip shit that's why normal wrestling fans and grown adult men think these guys are all fucking Pussies because they whine about their dreams and who was their friend and they don't want to

hurt nobody. Then become a goddamn ad salesman then if you don't want to hurt anybody. Well, that's the other problem, too. MJF's now like Mr. Patriot. Osprey can't be like, yo, fuck America. I'm from England. Instead he has to be like, I love you. I love the people who love flags too or whatever he said.

Are you sure he said flags? His accent was... He said, will you stop it? Will you behave yourself? All right. Well, that was the opening segment and the Lance Archer match. Jake Roberts did not make his way out to the ring. We heard they re-signed him, and then we never saw him again.

That's right. What the fuck is he just, now he's on a goddamn retirement plan with Tony? It's a nice plan from what I understand, but that was segment one in the segment two of... Yes, well, but now in quick order, they had a swerve video, a little late for that. He's deader than Kelsey's nuts these days. Jericho and his group did more comedy, and they had a cake that they presented Jericho for 102 days as FTW champion,

and of course he had a mention, you know, every other program, a guy gets a cake in his face, but they didn't. So this was just some boring-ass shit. And again, they left Barb Brady holding the cake and taking a finger out of it and making a face like he just dipped his finger into

his mother's goddamn homemade icing back home and Punta Gorda or wherever the fuck he's from. And then Chris Stantlander wrestled Willow Nightingale. And even though again what is, Stokely appears and disappears and has different things going on, he can talk, and if you had something for him to do, he could do something. but with Stadlander they're trying she looks great she's got the size and she

has a look now and they don't introduce her from Neptune or Uranus or wherever the fuck she was before The Andromeda Galaxy There you go That's where they never got in Lost in space They were on their way they never got there Or no it was Alpha Centauri In Suffolk County

Suffolk County is where Alpha Centauri is No, the Adromeda Galaxy, apparently. Oh. Well, I knew Suffol County was big, but I didn't realize it was that big. Did you see the entrance they did for Statlander? They're trying to do something in their own quaint way. They had the blue lighting effect, and she's backlit, and she's coming out, and you see the silhouette, right? and the only thing is

they ain't figured it out that's all you saw all the way to the ring can you imagine if this was the WWE and what's the new guy's name fitting oh Lee fitting Lee fitting he's very fitting

then they would have the backlight and the silhouette and the blue shading and she would come toward the camera and then the handheld would push in on close-up of her and then they would either throw a spot or throw a light or she would step onto a mark or whatever and you could see her fucking face

and she would hit a fucking pose like they've got Jade Cargill doing now in the WWE it would be I see they're trying over here but it ain't goddamn it ain't Hollywood it ain't MGM and Stokely's not like a perfect fit but he has his moments but

it's weird. Not weird, but I don't know. Stalander would maybe be better without him. There's no origin story because he just shows up with these people. And it's like, well, where did they meet or how did they, whatever, he shows up with people and he shows up with different people and then blah, blah, blah. Should they be showing footage on TV of Statlander pinning Jade? I don't see why not. I mean, that's what Watts would do back in the day.

Yeah. Look, here's our person to feed you. their champion. Here it is. Or Jarrett, or any other territory over and over. But Tony's too nice for that. He doesn't want to, anybody to accuse him of actually being a

businessman. But yes, if somebody's got a pinfall over a guy or girl that's featured currently on the other fucking network, if they're getting, yeah, show them getting beat like a fucking drum. but anyway, the match, and I like Willow,

and she's a very good baby face, very effective. I didn't watch the whole match because, as I said at the top of the program, time was short this week here at the castle. But I just, it's more of what Tony thinks gets people over that doesn't ever do anything for anybody. Stadlander hits a 450 splash off the top rope and gets a two-count, if you can't beat somebody with that when you're that size

you look that good doing it just don't do it until you're beating them yeah by the way it looked great yes it looked really good it'll look really good for Willow to kick out of and then Stokely Hans Statlander a logging chain not like the chain used to wrap around your fist

the old dog choker chain a goddamn logging chain that's hanging down to her knees as she's holding it all looped up and then he goes and draws Ref Aubrey, Old Aubrey Ed, and Stadlander clotheslines Willow with the chain, one, two, three. And then Stokely comes in and gives Statlander a chair. And in Statlander, well, you'll never guess what she does then, Brian.

What does she do? She hit Willow, hit Willow, hit Willow, hit Willow. And then security comes in and Stalander beats up security. All the guys, remember I said they ought to have female security. Then we'd see something. Because then the female security could fight back. And then they all left. So it didn't do anything for Willow besides she kicked out of the 450

and then she got knocked out with a gimmick and beaten and then hit with a chair. And Stadlander had to use a logging chain to beat her, but then the chair and the security. So it's more like Stadlanders. The baby face you were trying to save with a little out after they got fucked instead of the heel that already went over and then beats up security too.

I just don't understand the flow of Tony's brain, much like a sewer system for a major American city. The effluvia is coming at you from every direction. Well, booking notwithstanding, I think both women, I personally hope both women,

and eventually get to WWE and XT whatever it may be they're good it's just say EW yeah

and then we were at the nine o'clock hour and Brian Danielson's promo about his wedding pictures he had his wedding pictures taken in Greenville South Carolina Brian how many noted

photographers are you aware of that come from Greenville South Carolina I think Austin Idol lives there I've been known to take a picture or two darling Well, that's true, but I don't know if anybody got married over it. Maybe a divorce would be more like it.

I don't know. I have no idea. Well, anyway, he made a big admission. He said the last three years he's had the most fun of his entire career. And that's what it's all about, kids. It's about going to work and having fun. And I mean, it's... I never knew I would have so much fun with having a boss who says, no, never.

who just throws money at anything, who just will let me do anything I want at any time and take off whatever I want. This is a blast. I can go anywhere and work for anybody. But they love Brian Danielson, and he is a talent, even though some of his,

as we've come to see, some of his ideas about the rassling behind the scenes may be a bit dodgy. But they gave him a big thank you, Brian Chant. but the promo was basically about him slowing down for his family his contract ends tomorrow as if this was July 31st so that'd be August 1st but he'll be at Wembley obviously and the audience gasped when he said his contract was up that's important to note well because they thought he was going to say I'm not going

to be it all in because I mean they knew it was coming up but you know tomorrow when he said my contract ends tomorrow it's out fuck he's done right now but here's the thing he said the whole point of this was because he's wrestling swerve and now you've got beloved Brian

Danielson who they really like and who they respect and he got swerve who was just a few short months ago by virtue of being a heel he was the most popular baby face in a company

and now he's cooled off because of the booking so they are turning him back heel now, which we're going to talk about a second in this interview, but so it's Danielson's last match for all we know in AW. And people are saying, well, will he win the title, which is stupid? Because, yes, it's a great story. Brian Danielson wins the title in his last AEW match

and retires as Sting did the same thing, which was kind of stupid, but this would be really stupid. Because Sting wasn't beating anybody important when he beat the young bucks. But I don't see, or will Brian Danielson say, no, I cannot,

I cannot beat Swerve Strickland, but they've thrown a wrinkle into it. He can't say to Tony, I can't beat Swerve for the title, because I'm finishing up, I'm only going to be maybe wrestling every so often. it wouldn't be right, because now they've had him come out and say, if I don't beat swerve, I'll never wrestle again.

So they're trying to move tickets to the stadium show based on the fact that they're promising people that Brian Danielson would win the world title, which under normal circumstances, I would have no problem with that, except he's already also announced he's not wrestling anymore except intermittently every once in a while for wherever he wants.

So swerves there full time, and you've already just buried him. Anyway, that's why Brian Danielson said when he came to AEW, it was for two things. He said he was going to kick a lot of heads in and win the AEW World Heavyweight title. And he said, well, I've kicked heads, but I've not won the belt yet. not only did he never I remember say specifically I'm my goal is to win the AW world title

wasn't he doing interviews where at the first he said he didn't want to be the world champion I'm not even sure but I you know I didn't remember that being one of his big things that's for sure so anyway he's going to give it his all and Wembley and then swerves music plays and out comes swerve and now at the same time as

as Nana is getting him to chant Swirv's house Swerve is doing a heel promo now and the people started turning you could tell because he was he was being you know heelish and to a guy

that they like but now they're turning the fans on their champion that they liked almost better than anybody in the company three months ago for one fucking match and swerve tells him after I'm done

done with you, you may never walk again. That sounds kind of heelish to me. And that's when Danielson promised, if I don't win the title, if I don't walk out as champion, I'll never wrestle again. So, so many questions. Have they realized that they buried swerve as a baby face by having everybody just fucking have their way with him any time they wanted, and Moxley's Japanese bullshit belt being more featured?

and they're turning him back heel to try to fix that, but they're going to beat him in the highest profile match you'll have this year. Or else why is Brian Danielson, unless he's a liar, can never wrestle anywhere again, even if he wants to, in Arena, Mexico, Ola, or whatever. You know, it says something to that. These three years, according to Danielson, or the most fun he's ever had,

it seems like to me it's been a lot of missed opportunities. It's you know, when he first got there, they were on the cusp of something and they changed course. He got tied up a Blackpool Combat Club, which was a bad idea that went nowhere. Yeah. And it's still, I think, transpiring in some form. Sometimes he's with him, sometimes he's not. Well, who knows where Moxley is these days?

He might have gone back for the cure. But he hasn't been in the world title picture. I mean, he had those matches at MJF and, you know, that was great. But, you know, what has he really done in AEW? Well, no, hold on. The guy that came off WWTV, that was a big star. Have they done anything to capitalize on any of that? But also, I'm just thinking, he said the last three years have been the most fun of his career.

Didn't he come back from an injury where he was out for several months? and then the Japanese guy came off top rope on his arm and broke his arm and he was out for several more months? Well, yeah, what he meant to say was I work once every six months and then I get to stay home my family and I'm at a great time. Well, I was good. He had a loose definition of fun if it involved broken bones and fucking medical treatment. He also got hurt in, I think, was it him?

Didn't he get hurt in the arena anarchy match a couple years ago with Jericho? Yes. I mean, you can't really keep track. we ought to have a flow chart of all the AEW injuries. But, and still, I know that even though, no matter how stupid the risk is they take, that, you know, that they shouldn't be taking. And if they get hurt, Tony will pay them. I still would want to avoid all the surgeries if it was me.

But that's just me. But anyway, so we're going to see Swerve and Danielson Title versus Career. I got a few careers I'd like to put up. Should he come back as the masked dragon? Get around. That way he's lying to not just the heel, but also his daughter. Well, but then... Daddy's going to tuck you in.

Then he jumps on up Tony's plane and he becomes the masked dragon. Well, no, then they could work the deal where if he wins the world title, he has to unmask because Tony has to know who his real identity is, but he can't fucking unmask because his daughter will be watching on TV. So he has to give the belt back. See, nobody's ever done anything like that before. Yeah, but they don't even have a Bob Geigel. That's the problem.

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but let's go back to AEW dynamite. I think it's, this would be more like no sale because the next match was Roderick Strong, rush,

Rigger Mortis. Well, did you see Danielson and Jeff Jarrett in the back? I thought that was from last week. Oh, no, there was another thing this week. He pushed him. Oh, what did they do? He wasn't very happy with Jeff Jarrett, but we'll see what happens. Well, why would it?

Jeff Jarrett said all kinds of nice things to him. Why wasn't happy with Jeff? I'm not exactly. I wasn't paying close to time. I was hoping you were paying against that. No, I thought they were rerunning last week's deal. I didn't. Well, but they had a six-man tag match.

strong rush and rigor mortis with Tavin and Bennett in the corner against Mark Briscoe Poor Mark stuck in the middle of goddamn jobber hell Pockets Who continues to be on this program every week You can't get rid of him like fungus on a shower curtain Like a goddamn Infected canker upon your taint

No matter how much you lance it or take antibiotics It comes right back and their partner Ishii and Kyle O'Reilly walked out on the stage with him to wish him well and then you never saw him again but out of pockets and Ishi and Mark Briscoe they beat Mark Briscoe the heels who again Roderick Strong love him

years ago in Ring of Honor he's been booked into complete irrelevancy and insensibility and it's embarrassing now and Rush come on and rigor mortis just popped up there for shits and giggles and so out of this whole match

they got one star of any kind Mark Briscoe he's the one they beat your thoughts yeah I mean I didn't watch this too closely because it's an Orange Cassidy match

the fact that they beat Mark Briscoe the Ring of Honor champion speaks volumes and Rush and Roderick Strong and have we seen the beast mordo, so whatever his name was before on the show? I don't care.

I really don't care. But anyway, then Renee Moxleygood was auditioning. You know, they've had Bing Manquitz. Bing Crosby's... Bing, Bang, Boom, yep. Well, Bing Crosby's manager, you never knew this, and the Catskills was Bing fucking Mankowitz.

Ben Mankowitz did the thing with Tony Storm. Now they want Maria May to take over the hosting of Inside the Actors Studio. Because she's stretched out on the chair and now she's the... It's like a bunch of goddamn frustrated movie script writers and Broadway play authors are trying to live out their dreams and hopes and anticipation. through these two female wrestlers. And it,

so Maria May does her dramatic rendition and then Tony Storm comes out and does a solo dramatic scene and beats herself in a head with a shoe. Brian, what am I missing on the nuances of this? Whatever the, they

had something with Tony Storm and it flashed by in like the first three weeks and they went so far that it's just ridiculous and then it's gaga and then it falls apart and then Mitsuo Eriawa's in the middle of it and then they're all kissing. Yeah, where did she go? And back to Japan apparently, she was just there to get a little tongue. And to be honest, I would have goddamn liked it better if they had been swapping spit like fucking ant eaters, but they were just pecking each other like kissing your sister.

What? And well, you know the old saying, a draw is like kissing your sister. I don't know what's going on over there. Well, there's a lot of draws in Alabama and Mississippi. I'll have you know. So, anyway, that's what that was. It's silliness. It's just silliness at this point.

You know, whether it's the men or the women, you see it more with the women, the hokeyness and the bad acting. And there are a lot of people, and I thought this was good compared to some, I mean, this was better than a Mercedes Monet promo or anything. Oh, yeah. Well, we're getting to that. But there's a lot of people that seem to have practiced a lot of promos in the mirror. Yeah.

And that's fine. But it's like they practice what to say, not how to say things or how to, I don't know. No one feels natural or real. Everyone's putting on a performance. Everyone feels like they're putting on a performance. You used to be told by the veterans in the hotel room or in the car and look in the rearview mirror or whatever. Use a pencil for a hold of a microphone and cut promos and press. practice promos, it was always

what would you say if you were in this position for real you these people are writing scenes. They're writing dramatic acting scenes of their characters

and it's just garbage. Anybody who can't fucking come out there and command a room as you yourself, your natural fucking self, Instead of making up somebody that you want to be and then making up a bunch of flowery shit that sounds like it's from the Sundance Film Festival,

you don't need to be in a wrestling business. Be an actor or an actress. Because they get to do that. Wrestlers don't do that, not good ones. Well, that's the other problem. If you wanted to be an actor or an actress and do these kind of things, there aren't any roles that do this beyond bad wrestling.

Wrestling is not acting, it's reacting. And speaking of reacting, why did everybody I heard about this before I saw it? Mercedes Mone and Dr. Britt Baker did a big angle that I heard at the San Diego Comic Con. And then when they show it, they shoved each other and a bunch of people started yelling. What the fuck was nobody came over the goddamn table out into the audience or anything? Is this what passes for a big angle these days? or was this a popcorn fart? It wasn't a big angle.

I don't think you could say that. I don't think anyone treated it like that. Well, they certainly sent out all the video of, you know, here of what Mercedes and Britt Baker did at Comic Con. Yeah, the video they used on the TV show was awful. Yeah, because I bet somebody had Mercedes had somebody shoot it with her phone. Right next to the picture of Tony was Shane McMahon. But anyway, they were shoving.

loving each other. You know, Britt Baker and Mercedes Mone are headed for a collision course. As soon as Britt gets off suspension, we'll talk about that in a minute. And then they had Camille with Mercedes Mone versus Susie Hoosie, whatever the girl's name was. And Camille won in a fairly quick fashion. I like Camille, I like her look. God damn it, now she's with this

fucking rotten, rotten. She can't talk, she can't act, she can't wrestle. She does a promo standing there next to Camille and nobody gives a shit because they don't care whether she does talk or does act or does wrestle. They don't care. She's a flop. Has anybody ever gotten more money for a spot off of a run

the WWE and that's all you've ever done in your life? And apparently it's all she ever will. What is going on with this girl? When are we going to see what's worth the biggest contract supposedly in the history of women's wrestling? Yeah, I mean, that's part of the problem. You know, there's been a push for years treating women's wrestling on an equal plane as male, male wrestling, men's wrestling,

paying them the same, giving them the same amount of TV time, The problem always comes, and whether it's the people that are being pushed, whether it's the push itself, or whether it's the way a wrestling audience that traditionally largely male thinks of women's wrestling, it never helps. It never builds the audience. It never picks up the rating. It never sells tons of merch. It never causes the crowd to wake up. You know, you see stuff on AEW. especially, women's matches featuring women that are the most pushed women in the company, and the crowd is dead. I don't mean just like you can't hear them. They're not moving. You see them. They're sitting there. And they're not moving and they're not making noise. And it's awkward at times when you like see two people working in front of a bunch of people and no one is making

any noise. You just hear the wrestlers running the ropes or making their noises. And to pay Mercedes-Money that amount of money is ridiculous because WWE could justify it because they have the machine to market it. Yeah. And make money back with it. With Tony, it's throwing money into the well because you're not going to make that money back on Mercedes-Money. It's an investment into your women's division, I guess you could argue,

whether that's smarter or not. but Mercedes Monet so far has not lifted the ratings she's not gotten the reaction that maybe she intended to from the fan base has not aided seemingly in the paper views or anything else she's done a great job of promoting herself in various ways and various places but it doesn't really seem to do anything to build or add to what's happening I think it's the fairest way to look at it Well, you also, you said at one point you said a lot of the women's matches, people just sit there and then they do.

But at least they're kind of being polite. They're not really just coming out and hooting at it. They're just saying, okay, this will be over soon. But when Mercedes comes out now, you hear some groans like, oh, we got to put up with this. It's, it's a, it's like, imagine a movie about teenagers and one of the girls is a bad girl and she becomes a, a princess. Like, just the way she talks. Like, I'm, I'm a...

But then I... Then also imagine that the producer ran low on the budget and couldn't hire a good actress. Yeah. Well, we'll see what, uh... We'll see what happens at the pay-per-view, her and Brit. I was rooting for Susie-Hoozy there. Her name, for the record, was, uh, Britney Jade.

Well, Britney Jade. Seems like they would have changed. that because it's too close to Britt Baker copyright infringement. That's why there couldn't be any other Sean's or Shane's in the WWF besides Michaels and McMahon. Do you agree with that or do you think Vince took that too far? No, I think it's

fucking stupid. Okay, good, good. I think it's fucking stupid because Sean Casey I booked him up to do some jobs one time in Cincinnati and they made him change his name because I see, is anybody going to mistake Sean Casey

for Sean Michaels? If so, we ought to just hire Sean Casey, he'll work cheaper. Fuck. Anyway, and Shane Helms couldn't be Shane Helms because of Shane McMahon. That's where Gregory came in. Anyway, the main

event of this fiasco was Darby Allen versus Hangnail Page, and they started with 17 minutes left on the air in regulation, and you just know they're going over. And I was like, I don't know if I can take that much of this,

but fortunately, about two minutes in, I saw everything I needed to see. Two minutes into this match, Darby Allen had coffin dropped Page off the top of the tunnel onto the stage for a break spot. So the fuck this, they're not serious. So I went to the finish. And on the way there, I saw that after they just quit trying to have a match,

they spent about three or four minutes on the floor in front of the referee who was waving his arms and yanking on his dick and do it because they're just out on the floor. Imagine in any other sport, would they say that you were a great basketball player if you could fucking make a goddamn shot from 40 feet every time but the shot you were making was from the sidelines out of bounds

and it still counted? They wouldn't say you were a great player, no. Would you? They can't have a match following the parameter of pro wrestling, they can just do shit. And so they just give up trying to have a match. And then Darby whipped

a page with his belt several times in front of the referee who stood staring at him. Isn't it a disqualification? I saw somebody on Twitter said, well, that's part of his ring outfit. Well, doesn't that mean if I goddamn decide I'm going to wear a fucking

sidearm? into the ring that I can pull it out and shoot the guy? What the... And then Paige, again, he proved that he can't beat a 140-pound man no matter what he does, sort of like Osprey, not being able to beat a guy who never wins by the skin of his teeth. And then Darby had taken every bump, suffered every goddamn false finish and brutal maneuver,

and he was one minute away from being on a brink of death, and he came back suddenly at 100 miles per hour and rolled Page up and pinned him 1, 2, 3. What the f of it? So they just switched Paige heel, and they're beating him on TV already after he spends 20 minutes trying to beat a guy half his size. I'm not saying Darby Allen should never beat Page.

My page is a shits anyway, and he's worthless, so I beat him like, God, damn red-headed stepchild. However, is there a need to make your whole program phony by showing that this, it's fake because this fucking guy can't

beat Darby in 25 minutes but Darby has everything in the world done to him, but it was all fake because he immediately runs as quickly as he can around this fucking guy and rolls him up and beats him. There is no quality control, and I

yield the floor to you. Well, that was AEW Dynamite, no quality control. Let's now talk about ratings control. Ah, we got the ratings, do we? Well, let's give those ratings, right? Now, hold on, I've got a pad and a piece of paper right here. I'm ready to take notes. Well, Jim, let's go to these ratings.

AED dynamite, Wednesday, July 31st, 2024 on TBS. 8 to 10.05 p.m. on average did 609,000 viewers. Oh, boy, howdy. That's down, what, 180,000 or whatever from last week? Just about last week's episode was 786,000. This is the lowest overall average since June 19th, so not that big a period of time. Lowest key demo since June 19th, again, same day.

what happened June 19th wasn't at that episode that was abnormally low and no one could figure out why it was like 500,000 or something well I could figure out why because I watched it but all right and now they're going to say well it's the Olympics and you know we've said with the basketball tournament

or whatever else you know the all night gas station well they do that every year they don't do the Olympics every year but they do them every four years that means that AEW was against them in 2020, right? That is correct. Well, that's the pandemic, actually. I don't remember.

Ah, so I was going to say they didn't do this number during the last Olympics, but that was the pandemic era, so things may have been skewed. So we'll give them a chance. See what happens. Well, where did they start and where'd they finish? Let me pull that up. Give me a moment.

And by the way, as per wrestle ticks, This event, Greenville, South Carolina, the Bond Seacorres Wellness Arena, estimated 2,961 in Greenville, South Carolina. We used to do that almost every Monday night at the auditorium. Wow, look at this, market-to-market comparison. Going back to 2022. August 2022, Smackdown, 6,585. February 23 Smackdown, 9,756.

August 5th, 23, collision, 4,524. Monday Night Raw is there on October 30th, 2023, 7,959, and there again, this past May on the 13th, 8,323. 8,326. So you can't say the market's dead. Ooh, and then 2961. 2961. All righty. Well, you know, sometimes the cake doesn't quite rise.

Well, let's go to the quarter of... That was profound, wasn't it? That was somewhat profound. And did Mama Cornette say that? Who said this? Well, a lot of people, Betty Crocker. Oh. She said it

I guess she was like a mother to a lot of people That spent a lot of time in the kitchen Yeah Duncan Heinz he said it Duncan Heinz Any more you want to name Swiss Miss No I'm just talking about famous cake making people Famous famous famous

When your mother made you a cake Would you rather have the Betty Crocker cake Or the Duncan Heinz cake I don't remember I mean I think she made Betty Crocker cakes I don't know I never thought too much about it. Obviously, you have.

Tell me what the answer is. I always like the Duncan Hines better than the Betty Crocker. Why? It just, it was better. That's the way Mama Corny had made it. Oh, once again, we have the quarterly breakdowns. So dynamite did $609,000 and a chocolate three-layer cake. What was the first quarter?

Where'd they start? Well, these were compiled by Russellnomics. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. The MJF Will Osprey live promo, and Lance Archer versus Will Osprey, with picture and picture ads, 656,000 viewers. Wow, so even the Big Bang didn't hand it off to them.

And by the way, did you notice that modern family has gone away at 10 o'clock now? It's impractical jokers. Impractical jokers, yeah. It's like, we'll just put on a show that we can cut into whenever we feel like it. It's interesting, too. That show became a big hit on our network that didn't get a lot of attention, and now they're moving it to the bigger network.

Yeah, but do you think people tune in to see modern family they miss the first 10 minutes. They don't know what the fuck's going on. With impractical jokers, it's like a bag of potato chips. You can just dive in and start munching. Well, let's munch over to segment two. If that is a thing, 815 a 30 p.m. the continuation of Osprey versus Archer

and the post match with MJF, Kyle Fletcher, and Don Callis, the Swerp Strickland video, and an ad break, 599,000 viewers. Jesus Christ, they can't drop any further or they won't make their average. Well, we go to quarter three,

8.30, 8.45 p.m. the learning tree backstage promo. Is that now the faction too? The faction's the learning tree? I think so. I think it's just, it's a big tree, which ought to meet a high wind. Big roots.

Big roots. Yeah, big roots. The start of Willow Nightingale versus Chris Stathland. The start, the start needs a fungicide on it also, something for the root rot. The start of Willow Nightingale versus Chris Statland. with picture-and-picture ads. 593,000 viewers.

I mean, the good thing is they're not losing as much as they normally do. Well, we got a quarter four, 8.45 to 9 p.m. The continuation of Nightingale versus Statlander in the postmatch with Stokely Halfaway, Jeff Jarrett and Brian Danielson's backstage angle, an ad break, and Brian Danielson's live promo, at least the start of it,

601,000 viewers. 599, 593, 601, this is bathroom break fluctuation at numbers like that. So they're holding what they got. Is this the most dedicated base viewer that will not watch the Olympics or go to their friend's wedding or whatever the case? They got to be there. while are they there for quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m., let's find out. The continuation of Danielson's promo and swerve Strickland's confrontation with him.

The Danielson Jarrett backstage angle, once again, Roderick Strong, Roosh, and the Beast Mortos versus the conglomeration. We can call them that. hundred and forty five thousand viewers. Well, that's a nice surprise because they normally nine o'clock lately has not been not been good to AEW. But they picked up 44,000 people. That's the high point except for the first quarter.

So then now they can drop a little bit and still make their average. And it says a little bit, I guess, about the interest in Danielson. But we go now at a quarter six, nine, 15, and 9.30 p.m. the continuation of that six-man match, the acclaimed and Billy Gunn backstage promo, an ad break, the Mariah May backstage interview, 584,000 viewers.

Okay, so they lost the 44,000 they picked up, and another 17 on top of that. We go to quarter 7, 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. Tony Storm's rampant, if that's what we're calling it, Camille versus Brittany Jade, Mercedes-Money's live promo, an ad break,

and the start of Hangman Adam Page versus Darby Allen, 598,000 viewers. That's a miracle that they got 14,000 back for that, but they're still, they've been, let's see, one, two, three, three-quarters over 600 and

four quarters under 600 so far in the program. Well, we go to quarter eight. I remind you there's an overrun. Quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. The continuation of Page versus Allen, two times a picture and picture.

590,000 viewers. Five minute overrun, 617,000. Yeah, that five minutes, they rushed to the television. That's the impractical jokers fans. So, you know, again,

they kind of kept it. They were except for the first quarter, 656, they were between 584 and 645 through the whole shebang.

So it goes down, but these are the diehard, so there's not as much fluctuation. When they had, an extra couple hundred thousand people that wanted to give it a chance but didn't need to live and die with it they would lose more but their average was a little bit better because it was front-loaded so pick your poison

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Britt Baker was suspended for either one or two weeks and fined by the company's disciplinary committee. Details have been kept pretty quiet. It came from something backstage at the July 17th Dynamite where Baker allegedly said something about MJF and Alicia A toot or a tout? I'm not exactly sure. I think a toch. A toot. A toot.

We talked about her name a long time ago. You like saying that, but that doesn't mean that's the way you to say it. Well, but look at how it's spelled. A T-O-U-T, right? A tout. A tout. A tout. No, how, okay.

How do you say the word coop, like a four-door coop or whatever? Like a Chevy coupe. How do you say about? How do you spell about? A boot. A boot. A boot. You know this.

Lance Storm says it that way. Well, let's not go based on the way Lance Storm says something. The Canadians. And hey, the Canadians are closer to be in English people than we are, so the English people invented English, so it's a toot. Well, let me go back to this. Baker allegedly said something about MJF and Alicia, a tout, MJF's girlfriend, heard it and told him,

and he confronted Baker. This led to an investigation. Clues off. This led to an investigation with HR talking to people on July 24th, and I believe the disciplinary committee that did the investigation recommended that. Would it be funny if we find out

it's like a guy named HR Cochran? That's the guy that's on the disciplinary committee. That's HR. Harold Richard Cochran. I don't know if Tony Conn was or wasn't involved. in this and everyone was attempting to keep this under wraps. This all stems from problems in the past. Everybody was attempting to keep it under wraps.

That's why that they leaked it to the wrestling observer. Well, who leaked it? I guess is the question. Who does this benefit? Well, somebody would have to be involved in everybody because everybody's kind of a group thing. So one of them wasn't everybody. This all stems from problems in the past that weren't addressed

and a committee was put together to settle these things quickly. Most of those we heard from were sympathetic to her in the situation. I'm guessing her is Baker? Now, who is, this is Uncle Dave right now. This is Dave Meltzer and this week's observer that came out to. So we, most of the people we know he talks to are on the effete, I mean the elite bandwagon, so does that mean that that's those same people? They're sympathetic to her.

That doesn't really validate much because they're sympathetic to. a lot of fucking people they're friends with. Well, again, you know, and this is at a time where AEW needs as much positive publicity as possible. They don't need infighting, let alone infighting going public. The story was leaked. You know, and again, you say leak and it sounds like, you know, deep throats in a parking lot.

It's, you know, hey, Dave, you got to hear this shit. You know, someone did that. And you have to ask yourself who it benefits this coming out. I will say there are additional details that we've heard. that add some context to this. And I also think for context based on things we've heard now and in the past from people, you know, it's not like the AEW Women's Lockroom has always been a, a happy place for everyone, a welcoming place for everyone.

Sunshine lollipops, rainbows, and waterfalls. Remember, Loufisto got hammered because she had the audacity to tell the truth about what she saw there when she was there. A bunch of backstabbing and two-facedness. And some of those people can't be two-faced. If they were, they wouldn't be wearing the one they've got on now. But she said that. And also, remember the old Thunder Rosa.

Speaking of two-faces, she paints half her face. Well, there you go. See? Prove my point. And they've been saying the same thing, but they were the outliers because, oh, it can't be that way because this is all friends. wrestling. For the fact that half of these people got their jobs because of who they're friends with, it doesn't seem like anybody in that locker room gets along.

And if Britt Baker, who is not only one of their originals, but is in the big program where they might be able to get a dollar out of Mercedes moan indirectly because she's against Britt Baker, they've got to suspend her and fine her because of something that she said, you know there couldn't have been any question about whether she was guilty or not if they'd do that to her she would be one of the people that could almost get away with anything one would think

so and again what the if she's saying things that are reported back to MJF what is she is she now the producer backstage she's allowed to critique other people

that she's not involved with or is she just running her mouth in a social circle or what's going on back there? Well, the word is from talking to people in the company and a lot of people witnessed a lot of things here so there's plenty of people to talk to. The word is as crazy as it sounds, she may have been putting down or openly critiquing, let's say,

MJF versus Osprey as it was happening. Oh, here's what they ought to be doing from Britt Baker, huh? Or they're getting too much time. You know, I've noticed every time you tease an hour Broadway, it's generally a long match. And whatever was said,

purportedly, Alicia a tout, whatever it may be, let MJF, who it turns out as her boyfriend, apparently, know what happened, but from what we... At least their friends. From what we've heard from sources, Osprey was the one that got to her first and let her have it. Who the hell was she to critique the match? Well, I saw that, that reported that Osprey taught...

It was a phrase that Osprey even talked to her. It wasn't like, you couldn't tell whether Osprey talked to her or Osprey gave her a talking to, but he was involved also. Apparently, Britt Baker, there was some sort of incident with her and at least Alicia a tout.

If not MJF also, but what we had heard was she got in Alicia Atout's face and screamed, Get out of my locker room. And again, you think about some of the previous stories we've heard,

some that have been on air, some not, about the AW women's locker room, Britt Baker in the locker room. it's interesting. And again, HR, whatever, whoever that may be, and whatever that constitutes an AEW, a week later interviews everyone. And there were, like I said, there were a lot of people, trust me, there were a lot of people that witnessed a lot of things here. And Brit Baker ended up suspended and fined. And again, with AEW, you don't even know what that means. I mean, people

get suspended for months at a time and still get paid and have a great time. That's the thing is they're bringing her back for Wembley because it's a big match. So she's suspended for two weeks, but nobody said suspended without pay. So you get to stay home and make the same money as if you'd have gone. So, and she wrestles what, eight times a year to begin with? So the fine might be an issue, but I think the suspension, and then you can kind of look at it like well they find me but I get the next two weeks off to fucking work on my tan. Is the fine, what is the fine?

Is the amount revealed? What is... We have no idea. We have no idea. What is it in comparison to her weekly salary? Is she still... If her weekly salary, and I'm just pulling numbers for even mathematics sake, if her weekly salary is seven grand a week and she gets fined 10 grand,

then she's still making four grand for two weeks for doing dick all of nothing. So then who's really being penalized here? Like imagine having your grouchy aunt come over for a holiday and she starts criticizing Steamboat versus Flair. Aunt Lola was never grouchy. I'm sure she would have found something good to say. But yeah, I mean, there's plenty to criticize on that show. but for MJF and Osprey

to be the thing that she decides to go to war over as JR would say to die on that hill what the fuck it's better than anything else that's on that program including your matches Brit because let's face it she looks good and she got the heel promo down

and then she became a baby face and now as long as she's talking about her real life medical issue she's a very captivating speaker but otherwise she looks great, she wrestles, eh, and they like her because she's been there a while. And we don't see too much of her because she goes away so often that we don't get tired of her.

What was your point? Well, that was my point. Was that your point? My point is that, you know, she's getting by on, she ain't that good a wrestler, she looks pretty good, and Tony likes her, and she's been there a while. and they don't make her go out and do stupid things over and over like they do everybody else. She goes away for long stretches where you don't get sick of her and then she comes back and

there you go. So she's in a pretty good position. If I were her, I would shut my pie hole. If it's true, and again, we heard it and there were more than one, there was more than one witness, there were a lot of people. If she said, get out of my locker room, what does that tell you? Well, Dennis make a lot of money And she's probably

She's probably at least made Tony a down payment on the deed to the locker room So that way she can have decide who comes and who goes I mean, it's fucking really Again, this is saved by the bell Not only on television, but in the locker room behind the scenes I've never seen anything like this And in the wrestling promotions I have been in where there were manipulations behind the scenes and ill feelings

amongst top major players in the company and et cetera, it was usually over-important shit and done fairly well. It wasn't like a bunch of kids, just goddamn, you know, ranting at recess because the teacher left the room. And, you know, whatever you want to say about that match, they did something AEW doesn't do. they held the audience all the way through it. It was pretty remarkable when you looked at the numbers.

It didn't have a giant number, but they didn't lose anyone. They held the audience. And it's set up the most important match on the Wembley Stadium card. So, yeah, I would say that that piece of business was probably the best thing they did last little while. But, I mean, again, I don't know the personal dynamics of whether it is, one would have thought that Britt might be friendly to MJF since MJF and Adam Cole were bros and bosom buddies and all that stuff. But, you know, maybe that's what led Adam Cole to turn on MJF. His mind was poisoned by his girlfriend.

Maybe she's the devil. She's the devil! With a blue dress on, baby. Well... Devil. One last thing about all this. If you're Tony Kahn and again, you're a negotiator. appreciating a TV deal. You have Wembley coming up. Right now you need positive stories. You don't

need stories about in-house drama. That's been the story of AEW from the beginning. It was suppressed for a while. And then once it started coming out, it never stopped. Even when punk left, it never stopped. Are you happy about this getting out right now? Well, only if I intend to have Britt Baker and or MJF one, of the other front face lock, the other person in the locker room at Wembley or backstage so we can catch it on security camera and show that. Otherwise, no, it's another example of a bunch of unprofessional dipshits and minor childish arguments and personalities being allowed to run wild because Tony doesn't have

any control over anything. And again, you're suspended and you're fine. and the first thing they do, oh, hey, Uncle Dave, let me tell you what happened here. And it doesn't register because it's not a real punishment. Wrestlers do not feel punished when they are sent home and told not to take bumps and not to get on airplanes and not to make trips and not to have to go to work. Oh, by the way, you're going to get paid. Even if you're fined, if you're coming out with anything for that period.

And it's two weeks because she knows they can't leave her off of Wembley. So what... Yeah, really, what's that? That's another thing, too. Would the suspension be the same? Would everything be the same if Wembley and the match where Mercedes-Money wasn't around the corner? Well, maybe, maybe not.

They may say, oh, we can suspend you for a month because nothing's coming up important until next month, or they may say, oh, gosh, we don't want Britt to be mad at us, too. so we can't be too strict. If you're Tony Kahn and you have access to all the numbers, the numbers we talk about and stuff we don't know, but you know who moves numbers. You know who sells merch when he's a baby face or sells tickets when he's a heel.

Do you want MJF having to deal with drama getting pissed off at AEW? No idea. You don't even need to look at goddamn paperwork. You can use your own two eyes and if you have any sense at all about professional wrestling, MJF and Britt Baker, there's no goddamn comparison whatsoever in terms of star, power, or value to the company.

I apologize to Britt, who I've never met, not trying to insult you, but seriously, MJF is one of the two or three, depending on which way the wind blows and what your, you know, favorite things are. One of the two or three biggest stars in the company, and Britt Baker is one of the top girls,

even though she doesn't get paid more than Mercedes. That's way far apart. You don't need to look up paperwork. You don't need to look up statistics. If Britt Baker is knocking MJF in some kind of way, and MJF hears about it's not happy about it. Besides going and telling her to shut her fucking yap, I would go if I was MJF and tell Tony, hey,

this fucking chickadee keeps running her goddamn dick licker. about me, I may go home again with another injury. Fix this shit, I don't have time for high school drama. I'm not going to natter back and forth with a goddamn girl wrestler on the card when I'm trying to main event your fucking stadium show. What would Rick Flair have said in 1987, he came in the back and one of his boys came up to him and said, yo, Misty Blue has been tearing down your match. Misty Blue is just talking all sorts of shit about you and Barry Windham out there.

He would have gone over there and offered her a ride on Space Mountain. to change her mind and probably helicoptered her. That may not be the answer. That wasn't, I did not intend for that to be the answer. Well, it would have worked. It would have worked, though. No. I have a feeling that she would have bought two tickets for that ride.

But no, it's ridiculous. Yes, no, Misty Blue would have been, if Dusty Rhodes, the Booker heard Misty Blue telling everybody what Rick Flair ought to be doing different, Dusty Rhodes would have said, that's a good idea. why don't you go out in the pocketline and tell some other people all about it because you ain't staying in here. And one other thing, I guess, to look at this from the other perspective, if there is a women's locker room or a men's locker room, whatever it may be, and someone is openly critiquing the significant other of someone in there, do they have an obligation to say nothing to that person? Do they have an obligation to let that person know what the hell's going on? Well, and here's where it gets also a little dodgy

Is that in the entire history of wrestling Unless somebody was working as their husband's valet You didn't have anybody significant other in the locker room So you could make all the smart-ass comments you wanted to make And guys would roast each other Sometimes in a funny way, sometimes just for something to do And sometimes because they were really mad or jealous or whatever But you were just talking in front of the guys' white

for a girlfriend or whatever, because they weren't in a room. So now you've got to watch out for that, yes, because some of the guys may go and stoo, John, you just to stir shit up to have some fun, see what's going to happen, but most of the time, they'll just laugh along with it or agree or nod their head or whatever and go on. But you can't expect somebody's girlfriend to say, ah, yeah, so-and-so was putting a mouth on you, but I'm not going to tell you what they said. So what's...

Can you imagine someone in the back for like Flair versus Windham? Oh, they're going too long. Why are they going so long? I can use this time. Why are they in there so long? Oh, my God. Well, we'll see what happens. We'll see what else.

I hope that maybe Britt can use this to further study advanced root canals and all the time she's going to have free. At Dr. Miglano Institute. I took a sip. and you almost caused an issue. Well, Jim, speaking of issues, our final topic here this week, and we apologize for not hitting a lot of questions

or other fun bells and whistles, but it's been a long week without going to too much detail, including a spectacular performance may not be the word, display by Stephen P. Neu in a deposition, the more you'll hear about, or more you'll hear about, English. At some point. In the future. Yes. Words are hard right now, folks.

As soon as we graduate this class that we're taking in the English language, we'll tell you. But I'll tell you, have you ever seen, ladies and gentlemen out there, the Royal You, Stephen P. New cross-examine somebody, boy, I'll tell you what, it's like he's a pit bull and you're wearing milkbone underwear. He will make you twitch. He will make you cry. He will make you run screaming into the streets and take a walk around the block because he is a pit bull he is a guy that's going to dig in and he's going to rip and tear at the facts until they're all his and the the true story has come out oh man that's the kind of litigator he is that's the kind of attorney he is and he is on the side of the little guy actually i've said that before and i'm wrong

stephen is not just on the side of the little guy if you're over six foot three if you're in the right, he's on your side too. Stephen P.new at new law office.com 87750, Steve, as I said, the number to call, if you want to get to the bottom of something, if you

want somebody to be cross-examined and have all of their information, it's like a Vulcan mind-meld but Stephen P. New sucks all the information out of a perpetrator, an instigator, a corrupt individual

who is stolen or robbed or cheated or caused harm, if you have a person like that in your life that you need Stephen P. Neu because he will, he'll break that son of a gun down and leave him shivering. Oh my God. Like he's at the bottom of Mount Everest with his skivies on.

I had the good fortune of having seen Stephen Pino in action. And I could say he is the kind of lawyer that leaves a man trembling, twitching, nervous tics, snapping their neck back and forth, gobbling large amounts of chocolate, bizarre behavior. Bizarre behavior, he makes him diabetic.

Sweat and tears. There's a lot going on. A lot we're going to be talking about in the future. As a matter of fact, blood sweat and tears too. And that spin and wheel goes round and round until it stops on pay you to money. That's right. Stephen P.new, new law office.com, 87750, Steve, for your legal needs.

Let me take this down. I had the music ready to go, and then you just jumped in. I just did. I couldn't wait. You ran on the street like someone I know. You ripped off your jacket. You stormed around the corner. Just begin walking somewhere.

Some old lady chasing aftia saying, calm down, calm down. It'll be okay. But it won't be okay because we knew is on your tail, motherfucker, and this is only round one of many more to come. Speaking of potential issues, one last story, as I was saying before, before we end this week's episode,

we'll have more fun next week, and a big action-packed episode of the experience with SummerSlam and so much more. But Jim, a story that a ton of listeners have been sending over and apparently is getting coverage in other places off the original article It's a long article here. I have it from military.com.

That sounds official. And why, it's about as serious as a heart attack. Military.com. Don't go in there unless you're prepared. From military.com. The headline under military news by Steve Bennion. The Army bet $11 million on the rock and UFL ginning up enlistments.

it may have actually hurt recruitment efforts. The Army is seemingly having buyers remorse after an $11 million dollar marketing deal with the United Football League and Dwayne the Rock Johnson. The high dollar, high profile deal, likely didn't lead to a single new Army recruit and may possibly have had a negative impact on finding new investments.

As soon as the commercial started air and people started going AWOL. Internal documents and emails were viewed by Military.com show. The service may even seek to get some of its money back. The Army inked the deal earlier this year with the UFL, the upstart minor league

alternative to the NFL, that had an inaugural season from March through June with a disappointing debut. More importantly, the deal included Johnson, a global, superstar. Now you doesn't got to call him Johnson.

An owner of the league who was supposed to serve as a pseudo-brand ambassador for the Army. Let me say that again. He's covert. A pseudo-brand ambassador for the army. Su-sou-o-o-o. That's Sudio, but anyway, though the service said he did not fulfill his end of the bargain. to publish a specific number of service-related posts on his social media accounts.

The news comes as the Army is in the midst of a historic recruiting crisis that has been partially worsened by Dwayne the Rock John... No, by the service struggling to navigate modern marketing trends. Like giving $11 million to Dwayne Johnson thinking anyone was going to go, man, the Rock wasn't in the Army, he thinks I should do it. That's a great fucking idea. Here's the thing. You know, it's not the first time that an armed service branch has worked with a wrestling company

because they figure and rightfully so. There's a lot of young, you know, 18 to 25 or whatever age they're looking for, men that want to play with guns and or get away from goddamn their family or whatever. whatever reason you might want to sign up to get shot at and it works. There are patriotic heroes and there are people who just want to help their country and defend their country and they should be grateful for them.

And there's just a ton of great people in the world and just only a very few skeevy ones that only want to fucking get a be in it for themselves and or fondle weapons. But nevertheless, the point is it's worked in the past. how do you spend that much money how do you run that kind of advertising campaign and not get one single person

to sign up they've got to have a way to verify this somewhat like a fucking what's that promo code Jim you know did they say when you go in to sign up said the Rock sent me

well according to the let me continue on here it goes into their recruiting crisis. The UFL deal was so catastrophic it led to a projected loss of 38 in list of in terms and internal review of the plan shows. So 38 less people signed up because of it. We wanted to do it, but oh, fuck, no.

The UFL, no, oh, fuck. You know, I saw the rock tweet out about it, but I already saw that in and out thing, so I just didn't trust him. I didn't want to sign up. Well, also, but did you see somewhere they wrote, I saw on one account of this, that they were ascribing of,

like the Rock was supposed to tweet this information on his Twitter account like a half dozen times, and they were saying that was going to be worth one million dollars a tweet? Part of the allure of the deal was Johnson's social media reach and an agreement that he would tout, T-O-U-T, in terms of a toot versus a tout, ladies and gentlemen, he would tout the army. Maybe he was tooting his own horn.

A titan on social media, Johnson has 396 million followers on Instagram. The Army valued each... Can that possibly be real? No. The Army valued each social media post at $1 million. Service document show, and it was expecting five.

of them, but Johnson did not fulfill his end of the deal, making only two of the five social media posts Army document show. Johnson says he was in the gym. No, I... How hard is it... Hey, these dipshits are giving you a million dollars to tweet something. How hard is it to tweet it? In total, the Army wants to recoup six million dollars from the UFO document show.

however it was unclear how the service came up with that figure it's unclear how the service came up with the figures that they gave to him because no comment from the UFL and Johnson's publicist did not respond to a request for comment Gerwitz he was carrying a bucket of piss oh he didn't have a free hand because that's a heavy bucket it's a lot of piss a lot of piss a lot of piss a lot of piss there a lot of urine this one's mine and this one's urine was a two-hander Yeah, but that's what she said. So the point is,

I'm willing to agree that Dwayne the Rock Johnson is a big movie star, but I don't give a fuck who you are in this world. Mahatma Gandhi, whoever the fuck, just tweeting something is not worth a million dollars, and if these people paid it, I think it's their fault. Well, and actually on that topic here, from the beginning Army staff warned against a partnership with the UFL or the XFL or the U.S.FL or the U.S.FL

two minor league football leagues that would eventually form the UFL through a merger. Service officials said the financial burden was way too high and viewership way too low. And even the most optimistic estimation showed the partnership would not yield many recruits. One senior Army marketing official in an interview with military said the deal echoed the National Guard's $88 million NASCAR sponsorship that reportedly didn't lead to a single new soldier joining the ranks. But the UFL partnership was ultimately pushed through directly by General Randy George,

the Army Chief of Staff, according to an email between him and senior staff, reviewed by military.com. Is he the son of Major Duke, George? Johnson hasn't posted anything on his Instagram related to the Army since April. One post, mostly featured photos of him with generals, including a photo of him hugging George. Another was clips of his tour of Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Maryland.

That's good to know. His visit to the fucking hospital was all for a million dollars. In terms of the Rock, this is a quote, in terms of the Rock, it's unfortunate he was pulled the way at a time when we expected him to be present with us to create content for his social media channels, said Colonel Dave Butler,

a spokesman for George. It's George's fault. He could have had a picture taken with General Electric, General Mills, General Motors, he picks General George. But we're working with the U.F.L. to rebalance the contract. The Rock remains a good. good partner to the Army. And then we have it says here, one internal Army document pointed out

the inexperienced UFL staff causing numerous breakdowns in communication. Here's a quote, UFO lack of experience liaising between brand and networks was very apparent during planning and created a significant amount of additional work. So we could stop there. on the strength of Dwayne Johnson's star power. And again, the way he's, you know, it's like one of those things where the way you're perceived by

people in high positions who may not know what's happening on the street and the way kids or young people or people who pay attention see you were two different things. I call him the male jailo for a reason is a disconnect between how popular you are told that they are and how popular they seemingly really are.

and they got this deal on the strength of the rock he couldn't even put out the tweets for like what the hell is that what is this and again every other thing we've heard about with him is about this organization with his staff and again now you're hearing about it with this UFO well that's so preposterous

because if they're paying you all that money to tweet something why why get them your sponsor these people the army, especially the ones with cannons, why get them upset when you can just be tweeting something? Because then if you held up your end of the bargain and did everything you're supposed to do

and they give you $11 million and they don't get shit, well then they've really got no reason to bitch because they made a goddamn deal, but now they've got a reason to bitch because you didn't even hold up the deal that they got nothing out of. So in, it's not like four more tweets or whatever. would have made any difference, obviously. But at least you could,

you as the perpetrator of this scam could say, my hands are clean, I did what you paid me to do. You know, you shouldn't have made this deal if you didn't like it. But now it's like, what the fuck? And $11 million. I don't, how many recruits would you need to get what they feel was worthwhile

for $11 million? See, the thing is you want to get mad because it's our tax dollars being just thrown around and played with so on one hand you're mad and then other people like, well, it's only a drop in the bucket for the army. They've got billions to play.

Well, that doesn't make it any better. This is a waste of money in every way and any reasonable person would have seen that. It's like a favor almost. Because otherwise, how would you ever think this would work? And the other thing is, they said he did two out of the five tweets he was supposed to do. So it's a million dollars a tweet.

The first one, was pictures of him hugging generals? That's a million dollars. The second one, again, let me go back to this. Join the Army and you could have a homosexual relationship with one of our generals. Well, again, I don't know if that's exactly what they're saying there, but that is allowed in the arm. Well, actually, I don't know if that's allowed.

That's a... I think it's up to the general in question. Well, no, I don't think it's up to the general because there's a chain of command and there's a power... Well, who's higher than the general? Well, listen, let's get back to what... And he's generally high when he's having the homosexual relations. There's no general having homosexual relations. You don't have to worry about that, ladies and gentlemen.

I didn't you just said that? I said nothing of the sort. Well, it's not the way I heard it, but go ahead. What was I saying? I don't know. God damn it, why do you do this to me? You were talking about General George being gay for some reason. I did not say that.

You said that. I don't even know if that's any of the general George is one of the hugging generals. So I don't know about that. Well, actually, I did say he did hug George. George may like to hug He hugged him and squeezed him and called him George Well that was a $1 million hug The second one is the one that to me

If it is what it sounds like Is offensive He went to the military hospital for a visit I always joke about him I joke about the truth I judge about him giving people gifts And filming The camera is always there

And at the moment of conception There's nothing he does that's nice That's not that And at times it's almost set up Remember he went back to the place where whatever it was, he stole a Snickers bar when he was like, yeah, yeah, and he had someone behind the counter filming it

or whatever it was. Like it was an unnatural place for someone to be filming this thing for this clearly set up scene, at least in his eyes. Who knows if anyone else knew what was happening? So that means he got a million dollars to go to Walter Reed Medical,

Medical Center, medical, I don't have it in front of medical hospital. Walter Reed Hospital. Walter Reed Hospital. A million dollars to go there. And I would guess the intention is to cheer up the injured troops, these people who defended our country who were injured or hurt from doing that. But if you treat it like it's just something you're doing for a million dollars,

not only is that kind of scummy, but secondly, it makes you wonder who else is doing that. Not just in wrestling, obviously, but just... Yeah. Whenever you see any celebrity filming themselves going to a military hospital, are they being paid by the government to do that? Are they doing that on their own just as a good person? Well, and then also, you know, if it's a million dollars is what it takes to get you to go to Walter Reed, maybe that's because he's eaten at the commissary and he knew what he was in for.

But it's, it's, you're going to. a hospital to see, as you said, wounded people and blah, blah, blah, blah, it would seem like there would be some element of you would have to disclose, hey, you know, this is part of a sponsorship I'm doing or whatever. I'm working with the Army, so I thought I'd come by. You don't have to say you were being paid specifically to go to the hospital, but it's not like, how, I just, I was wandering by, and they said I could come in. No, you're working with the Army.

you're working with it's a business deal we need to know some of this just to me you know what you should do put up a tweet or an instagram thing hi i'm jane the rock johnson do you want to look like this well you're never going to be drug tested in the new army you can go over there and do whatever to fuck you want you may be saying jane johnson you never served in the military who the fuck are you to tell me i should join the army and i say you're right take out that aggression for uncle sam if you smell what $11 million is cooking. If you smell what $11 million has bought me. Have you met General Hiram?

Well, again, I said it. Earlier in this year, people were really getting on me because I was telling the truth about what was going on with the Rock. You know what? This stuff is starting to come out and is looking more and more in your favor. Listen, he's lying about burgers. he's lying about the military. What the fuck is happening with this guy?

And he's revamping, let's see, April Major, he's revamping the WrestleMania documentary, so it comes out three months later instead of the next week because they had to figure out a way to make it look like he invented, you know, the Garden of Eden or whatever. I told you this was coming.

He's not doing it himself any favors, is he? Amazing talent, amazing talent. But goddamn, he's, he's really huffing his own fucking methane Well we will give up the methane for the day and Jim as I said we will return to normal form next week but like I said it was a very very long day

watching Stephen Pinoo inaction causing action including running sweating ticks and by the way I think that at the end of the day you'll have to agree that he had that witness so confused that he couldn't say that it was for sure you wearing that raincoat and nothing else in that park. Wait, what?

I was just saying Stephen's so good at what he does. That wasn't the case. First of all, I didn't know you knew about that case. But that wasn't the case, no. Oh, I thought you were there, you were watching the cross-examination of the old blind woman that was the witness. The old blind woman, that was the one that flare wound in her face. Oh, come by. You know, who knew they were going to be too, Did you see that AEW ended their deal with Wu Energy?

Like they announced like a multi-year big deal that would include Rick Flair being on TV paid for by them. It's over now, apparently. He was on three times and it lasted like four months or whatever. And yeah, boom, and they pulled everything. I don't, did the energy drink go under or belly up or bubble up or whatever energy drinks do? Or because there was never any explanation, well, we kind of don't want you to drink this

anymore. It's like whatever the newest item in the bodega is, there's like a version of a Rick Flair sponsoring it that pops up every few years. Whatever that is, a calling card, whatever it may be, there's going to be like a Rick Flair version of it that pops up for six months and it disappears forever. Well, you heard years ago when they started the North Carolina lottery, Flair was actually a spokesman. He did one of the commercials.

And the joke amongst the boys was that if you buy a North Carolina lottery ticket, one of the ones that Flair's selling every ticket is guaranteed to win $5,000. But everyone costs $10,000. So, you got that going for you. Well, ladies and gentlemen, with that,

we're going to end the drive-thru on a happy note. Where's an old trusty, old faithful? Old faithful. Where's, uh, fuck. Oh, there it is. I was about to take a an off-brand one. All right.

Another fun day. Jesus Christ. Another fun day. Hey, Jim, now that you've gotten to see the Big Bubba Rogers action figures that we talked about on the last show, what do you think? I love him, especially the, of course, the white shirt. That's how I knew it. But also the fact that he has the more one of the heads with the more Bubba flousy hair instead of the more tightly cropped Big Boss Man hair.

I like that ability to choose. And again, we talked about it when we did the last retro figure segment. What do you think of the blue shirt? It just, it's bizarre because it kind of looks like, I mean, it's got to be a nod to the boss man outfit because now, remember Bubba, I said he always wore white. He wore black shirts sometimes. In the early days, you mean? Yeah, but not blue.

So there you go. but as a matter of fact he was buying all these suits at the big and tall man's shop obviously because he was six four and three fifty or whatever the fuck but he ended up having to have because when he was wrestling in those street clothes

god damn at the end of a match with Ronnie Garvin it was hard for him to keep his heat visually with the people because he looked like he'd got damn been run over by charging bulls his shirt was all untoward tucked and the sweat stains out of the armpits and the fucking legs of the pants were hiked up. So to keep more together and not look so unkempt,

he started taking the dress shirts and having a lady sew buttons and a tail on him where he could bring it through his crotch underneath his pants and button it so his shirt tail wouldn't come out. Like a regular wrestling top, but with the dress shirt shirt. That helped him stay together better. Did Bubba Rogers and Big Bossman collectively pull off wrestling in actual clothes better than almost anyone? Like it didn't seem ridiculous with him.

No, I think so because, well, the way he started, Bossman still was kind of a policeman's uniform, but Bubba was just, the inspiration was any goddamn, you know, 60s TV show gangster in the suit and the tie and the carnation and the sunglasses, but they're going to fucking whack you with the, you know, the machine gun they carry in their violin case. That's why we use the Peter Gunn theme for Bubba's entrance music. Because Dusty, you know, just Kay said he's Big Bubba Rogers, baby, is your body gone from Louisville, Kentucky?

So we's okay, and put him in a suit, and that's the guidance we got. So then we say, okay, well, what music would fit it? a Peter Gunn. And a lot of people didn't even know at that point what it was, but it sounded right, right? And we just made it, you know, like a fucking gangster movie. And with him wrestling in his suit, it made him stand apart because guys weren't doing that in those days.

And he didn't look like a wrestler. He looked like this big, tough guy that no. wrestling fan had ever heard of because he wasn't a wrestler, but he was my bodyguard and suddenly I'm throwing him into the ring. And because he, his style was so different and the way that he did things in the ring and the way he moved in the ring was so different, he didn't look like a wrestler, but not in a bad way. He didn't look like a wrestler in terms of the match he was having.

He looked like a big six foot, whatever, 350 pound guy fighting somebody. who was trying to wrestling. And since he'd only had 12 matches and very little training before he got the gimmick, he was doing that. He was figuring it out on his own. And he was, sometimes he'd just start taking bumps or doing moves

that weren't technically, classically correct in wrestling, but it worked for him because he was so quick and so agile, and it was just a whole different way of doing things. So that's why I think, think he stood apart from all the other guys they tried to push when they were green. Bubba became a bigger star quicker than almost anybody. He was like an American Nikita Kohl-off. And again, after a match or in a match, whichever character he was, Big Boss Man or Big Bob

Rogers, let's leave the Guardian Angel out of this. Yeah. You know, his shirt would get sweaty. It would get opened up more. You'd see his check. Like it was a guy in a fight, like you said. And he pulled it off. A lot of people, you see a lot of people wearing clothes in the ring nowadays. They don't pull it off. He made it work. Also, Bubba was a free perspire.

Oh, my God. And we'd go to spot shows in the summertime and to Carolinas. It'd be 100 degrees outside, high humidity. And it'd be a, we're both wearing suits. And it'd be a contest between two of us. It's which one of us looked like you'd turned a bucket of water over our head by the time we got back to the locker room. How did he do his laundry?

Well, he took it home and fucking did it. He took it home? I mean, when you guys were on the road? I mean, how many suits did he have? Well, no, think about this. In the Carolinas, we were driving to a lot of the shows. And if we did go, you know, fly for the weekend. I mean, I was wearing a different shirt every night.

I'd reuse pants a couple times on a five or six day trip. And try to get two or three wearings out of a jacket. Since he was taking the jacket off, that was the, problematic part, he was taking that off to wrestle. You just throw several things at a suit bag. When you get home, pop them over by the dry cleaners. That's what I always do. I assume that's what he did.

I didn't follow him. He might have had Angie do it, his wife, take it to the drag cleaners. Nobody's ever asked that question before. Well, thank you very much. It wasn't a compliment. It was just a statement. I'll take it as a compliment. I really appreciate it.

Thank you. Thank you very little. You're welcome even less. Well, with that, this is the outro of the program, ladies and gentlemen, and of course, we'll be back on the experience. SummerSlam, Suss a SummerSlam, whatever I just said there. Susser Summer Slam!

Whoa, whoa. SummerSlam, as well as biographies of Ted DiBiase and Paul Heyman, as well as Smackdown, as well as whoever in A.W gets suspended next, wherever you find your favorite podcast. And, of course, next week back here on the drive-through. He's on Twitter at the J-Divac-Drew. Jim Cornett. I'm on Twitter at Great Brian Last. You can hear me on the 605 Super Podcast, 605Pod.com, and of course the wrestling news. Every day, wherever you find your favorite podcast,

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Is that it? 8888-no, no, it's not it. 877-50, Steve. I still remember the old number. That's how successful that campaign was. 877-5-0, Steve. He's got a new number now, and it's a new day, and he will depose you, and you won't be able to oppose him. That's right. It could be in St. Louis. It could be in California. It could be wherever you wish Stephen P. Neu is the man for you.

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