Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 359

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

This week on the Drive Thru, it's a fast & flighty edition, as Jim reviews AEW Dynamite with Adam Page burning down Swerve's house, the highlights of last week's WWE Raw, and another wacky Meltzer... & Alvarez argument! Plus Jim talks about low ratings, Odyssey Jones, and much more!  Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again, friends! And you are our friends, and there is no time to waste. Welcome to another edition of Jim Cornedge Drive-Thru. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last. And here he is, the star of the show, a man who's so irrelevant that, uh, I can't even remember his name. Here is old, what's his name? Heavenly shades of night are falling. It's twilight time.
Starting point is 00:00:26 No, I'm not talking about the twilight of AEW, although we may be doing that later, but Brian, it's later in the day than normal. And we have mentioned to the throngs out there, the listeners, the cult of Cornet, the people. We have mentioned that over the next couple of weeks of my schedule, your schedule, everybody in the Arcadian Vanguard vortex as personal schedules, and we may be bopping in and out. And today what we're going to do, because we've just released a couple of
Starting point is 00:00:58 omniby that are just hours and hours long of infinite entertainment. Today we're going to hit the high points of what's going on the past couple of days on television wrestling and a few other things that we've jotted down and we're going to blow through that and we're going to hit just the hits. The hits are going to keep on coming today. And we're not going to break down in these bogged down and these sub-referencing and getting sidetracked, going down to rabbit hole, digressing his mama. Cornett used to say where we're just talking about one thing and then we branch off completely
Starting point is 00:01:33 into another thing and by the time we talk about that, then we're talking about something else and by the time that we get into that, we don't really even know if we finished up what we were doing beforehand. What was I talking about? I don't know. Where are we? Where are you? I'm right here at home. I'm over here now. Well, again, this is my show and we have a lot of things to talk about we're not going to get sidetracked with anything. I think that's what you were trying to say, and you got sidetracked. But where was I going? You may be digressing.
Starting point is 00:02:04 We're going to have just a snappy, snappy show today filled with fun and frivolity and enlightenment and education for all concerned. That's right. So it's your show. So where the fuck are we going? And no AI. That's the promise here at the start, here to start at the show. That's how you can tell us.
Starting point is 00:02:25 ladies and gentlemen. We're starting early, but we're starting late. No AI on this episode. You know, it's about, it's about time we should, we should have long ended up by now. So we may be getting a bit, a bit peaking today. You know, I'm old. I'll be 63 years old a couple weeks. September 17th, by the way, for those of you want to send gifts or cake. It's not what it used to be. I don't think you're old until you hit 70 anymore. Fuck you. I got the right to be old. I didn't sleep for a lot for many, many years in a row for dwelling on the wrestling and obsessing on the wrestling. So I'm actually in Cornette years, I'm probably about 71.
Starting point is 00:03:11 What's easier to manage, wrestlers or trees? Well, still the trees, because it takes a goddamn horrible natural occurrence to topple a tree, but it takes a lot of goddamn oddball everyday stupid occurrences to topple a wrestler. All right. We're going to top and topple a wrestler. Let's, uh... Have you topped many wrestlers? I have not, have you?
Starting point is 00:03:38 Or toppling? Well, you never know. Are you tippling or toppling or what are you? Let's move along. If I can get booked in stardom, then there'll be a toppling of me. But Jim, like we said, we're going to hit the high points, and why don't we start? with WWE Raw. Again, it's not going to be the whole episode, but just the good stuff, actually. Why don't we talk about what you saw? What we're going to talk about?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Well, we got about three things. I want to talk about the two main segments that happened because the rest of the stuff in the middle was kind of more rawishness. But let's do it at the top of the program. What do you think about Joe Tessatori? You know, I thought he did really well for two reasons. One, he was like Michael Cole in an unoffensive way. It didn't sound as fake as it can. And I thought he did a good job. And, you know, secondly, I think he did a good job because when it was unimportant, I was able to just tune him out and pay attention to the wrestling. And I know that sounds weird, but sometimes with some of these people that are just screaming at you for no reason, and his voice went up and down at bright moments at times.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Well, but now I've got to say, I saw what during the punk segment, which we're going to talk about, I think they may have gotten his ear because they're fighting on the desk in front of him and he's calling it like a golf tournament and then suddenly he's got, oh my gosh, and he's kicked it up a notch.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But I don't, I felt like, at one point he's like, and he's got the bracelet, and he broke the beads. and I mean it's going to be a feeling out process but I thought that he was trying to be very emotive with his facial expressions when they did the on-camera pitches well at the same time he's having to read his notes because it's his first week and he doesn't you know you can study all you want but but the thing is are people just going to
Starting point is 00:05:45 except because Michael Cole started on syndication or whatever, right? Everybody started somewhere I get the famous flops like the Mike Adam Lee and who was the other the other fellow that didn't take to it? I can't remember the guy's name.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Adnan something. There you go. Casey? Now, wasn't that Ednan? But are the fans that dedicatedly watch the program going to accept a guy that they've never heard of before in the chair of the main chair of the main show. Oh yeah, I don't think that's going to be an issue. I think they've been
Starting point is 00:06:26 pretty accepting of outsiders. That Kevin Patrick lasted a long time whispering to people and getting excited. I think that's because Kevin Dunn more than the people, you know, saying, oh, Kevin's a fine fellow. But that's my point. There wasn't a big outcry, though. People like us would talk about how ridiculous he was and how bad he wasn't this specific thing. But, the common fan there wasn't like there were signs popping up or anything. I think they'll like this guy because I think he's a wrestling fan. Obviously, they'll always be in his ear, but it seemed like he picked up on what to do pretty quickly. Unless he has like a bunch of mistakes within the next few weeks, because those will go viral quickly.
Starting point is 00:07:05 He'll be fine, I think. He'll be fine. And wasn't he represented? Wasn't he like Nick Kahn's first client or something? Oh, God. I don't know. I don't remember if we talked about this. I've put it out of my mind.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I think he may have been like client number one for Nick Con. Oh, gee. Okay. Well, he's figured in. It's like when I told that, oh, my God, I told a ring of honor was on HDNet. And an HDNet, the fight, you know, department, wrestling, boxing, UFC, MM, well, not USC, but MMA, whatever. Guy Mezger was. the, you know, head of that department, I guess, at the time.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And he came to one of the tapings, and I was trying to help, you know, transform that thing into a viewable television program, even though nobody could view HDNet. When they had Mike Hogwood doing the announcing. Yeah. And the thing I said, I said, we will not live long enough for Mike Hogwood to be a good wrestling announcer. And I didn't have found out that was the guy they'd hire.
Starting point is 00:08:15 even to begin with. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. I have an article from a couple months ago in the New York Post when they first announced that Joe Testatory was the new commentator on Ron. It says here, The job is something of a full circle moment for Joe, who was the first media client of WWE president, Nick Con. Well, there you go. Oh, man. If you're like the second client, are you calling Nick Con right now? Like, hey, you're hiring anyone?
Starting point is 00:08:43 When a Raw switches, guys, because Nick Con's your guy. Tessitore. Are you saying you got a bad feeling for this off the first night? I think he's just, he's kind of, you know, he's kind of a smooth announcer, but I don't know that he had settled in there, and he's trying, he was trying a little hard on the emoting at the desk. Hey, listen, how many announcers can settle in very quickly in a new place? Jim Ross famously had struggles with that in WWF, and a lot of that was Vince McMahon's
Starting point is 00:09:12 management of the commentators. Well, yeah, but a normal sane people are in charge. now allegedly. It'll be interesting because again, you know, if he grew up watching the Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn Wrestling only, that's the only style of commentating he knows, basically Vince McMahon into Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler and the Michael Cole. All those guys got into Michael Cole. I didn't know Michael was that kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:09:36 They toppled each other. But you're just, okay, you're going to be a tessatory guy is what you, you're going to get the shirt, I'm a testatory guy. Because it is because you're mutual. Italian backgrounds? I'm not Italian, first of all, and second of all, and second of all, I would never get a shirt like that for anyone. I think, I think secretly you're Italian because of your fetish about the New York pizza
Starting point is 00:09:58 just a certain fucking way. Yeah, I don't know about that, but what I'm going to say is there was nothing he did on this first episode of Raw that made me think this is a problem or they made a mistake or that he won't grow into this by week, you know, in the coming weeks, by week two, he may be better than week one. When did I say any of those? things. You're basically, you're ready to cut the guys, you're ready to send them to Mike Adam Lee Island. What are you talking about? I was, I was saying. Who are the other failures, Brian
Starting point is 00:10:27 in the history of wrong? Let's name every I didn't fail commentator. I was not comparing his work to these other twats. I was saying that like the, the fans do they normally want just a brand new guy that they've never seen before? He's been on ESPN or whatever. I've never fucking seen him. I couldn't have picked him out of a police lineup. Do they want somebody suddenly just vaulting right into the fucking main chair there? See, that's one of the things about commentators in other sports. Unless you're like a real hardcore fan and you watch every minute of it, you may just only know them by the voice. You may have no idea what they look like. Well, I'm not saying he's an ugly looking man either.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You're twisting my words. That wasn't my words or the words I was trying to twist. I wasn't trying to twist. I was saying that if Vince was still, he was. when they went to a death shot, they would either have him wearing a towel over his head or put a blue dot over his face. All right, listen. This quick episode of the drive-through, we've spent 11 minutes on Joe Testatorie.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Joe Testator. Testator. Testichorley. So one of the main story running through the evening, from first to last, was Ria Ripley and Damian Priest and Liv Morgan and Dominic Mysterio and the associated peripheral
Starting point is 00:11:47 members of this love quadrangle and fucking backstabbing bunch of bullshit, right, that they're going through. They all hate each other. Have I set that up quick enough? Yes. Okay. So the first segment was 15 minutes long and they actually spoke what in the territory days would have been two minutes of content.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Did you notice this? What do you mean? Mommy comes out Rea comes out says welcome to Monday night mommy she looks great she's a huge star the fans love her who by the time of her entrance
Starting point is 00:12:28 and people are cheering so loud and so long all she has to basically do is say I pin the women's champion so I want a title match with Liv Morgan and music plays and here comes Dominic and did you see the black eye
Starting point is 00:12:45 Was that from the mixed tag, I wonder? I'm not certain where it came from, but it looked good. Oh, you're saying he might have just been mugged on the street. He may have fallen and hitting, uh, you know, the corner of the bed. Fallen and hitting? Fallen and hitting the corner of the bed. You never know what's going on there with these crazy kids. That should have been Henry and Phineas Godwin's finish, the fallen and hitting.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Better than a slop drop. Well, you know. it just depends on, but nevertheless we're not supposed to sub-reference. Boy, this is the show ain't going to be any fun. So Dominic comes out and it's every time he opens his mouth, they
Starting point is 00:13:27 scream boo over him. That's the thing and the crowds love it and over and over and they chant you suck. And he, basically, it takes him five minutes to get out the point that Liv is still recovering from
Starting point is 00:13:43 being accosted, in Berlin, but these people are so over. They're out there for 15 minutes to have a minute and a half back and forth conversation. Because people will not stop screaming and having fun. It's almost at this point, when I think of how hard I used to fucking work, I don't want to speak for anybody else. I was like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Stand out there and fart in a microphone. I wonder if they did. if the windscreens would sell on the website. Damian Priest farted windscreen. Pretty sure they could sell them if it's the girls doing it. Well, I think, you know, some of the weirdos out there. I'll bid $2.50 for Ria's. Uh, behave yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Well, anyway, so Ria told Dominic that he was stupid in Spanish and she'll fight live anytime, any place, anywhere, Alice. and it took bang zoom to the moon it's what's going to have as soon as she says that boom live attacks her but ria nails her knocks her off and grabs dominic and then live gets back on her and when live comes back to save dominic
Starting point is 00:15:00 because ria has dominic's on a floor and ria has gone over and reached through and grabbed him and when live hits ria from behind she falls forward and her leg, her ankle is tied in the ropes and she's hanging upside down and she's helpless like she's caught in a trap. She can't walk out
Starting point is 00:15:26 because she's caught up in the ropes, baby. And I got to, and then Liv starts kicking and I think she lived through five or six kicks that her leg may have hit it once or twice. but did you see do you follow me on Twitter Brian have I blocked you yet no not yet I do follow you on Twitter do you what did you see when I tweeted retweeted what somebody said about this spot yes someone really gave live Morgan a lot of credit for saving this from the big botch that Ria committed yes they said can you imagine the professionalism and the and the improvisation on the spot of
Starting point is 00:16:08 Liv Morgan to cover up with this unfortunate accident to happen to Rio Ripley. What a true professional. I said, well, you bobas-headed dipshit. What about the professional? And I hate to un-K-fabed their spot. But I said the professionalism was on Rio Ripley's part in this perfectly placed and perfectly timed spot
Starting point is 00:16:30 that she did so that Liv could jump out there and hit 20% of her kicks on a stationary target. this spot and I saw Lou Thess do this with the Garvin brothers in 1973 on it was I think it was Birmingham television because I remember Sterling Brewer calling it and then Jimmy Garvin
Starting point is 00:16:57 who at the time was dressing more effeminently than goddamn Liberace as the manager of of Ron and Terry Garvin kicked over and over kicked Luthes in the ass while he was hanging upside down. And then Luthes cut a promo where he actually said the word ass in 1973. I've never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:17:25 He said, well, but the thing is, he also said another word. He said, I'll be damned if I'll let the F word fellow kick me in the ass on television. Yeah Wow Yeah So that was That was big down in Birmingham
Starting point is 00:17:43 At the time Ladies and gentlemen But anyway Ria did this better than Fes did It's what I was going to say with that So And she didn't insult anyone in the process No
Starting point is 00:17:54 You know she just She hung up there And boom And then priest came running out For the save with no music Thank God They've at least Loosened up on that thing too
Starting point is 00:18:06 and the heels ran off and this set up the show-long thing where explain this to me, Brian. Now that Ria's leg was injured at the top of the program, they were going to fight the judgment day somehow but now because Ria can't be
Starting point is 00:18:25 Damien Preece's partners, he's worried that the match is going to be canceled or whatever, so she's going to find him a partner. But if she was the partner, were they going to wrestle two of the guys? Was this explained? That was not explained, but at least I didn't hear the explanation, but that was the same thought I had.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It was going to be a mixed match on one side? But it wouldn't be because they don't do those. So the plot line, I see, I'm loving, the story is over like crazy, and I'm loving Ripley and even live as long as she doesn't wrestle and all this stuff, she's great, and Dominic is a heat magnet. But this didn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:19:05 sense. But, and then she started teasing because of her apparently special relationship with Jay Yeet, that it was going to be him. And they teased that until the end of the show. We find it well, guess what, you know, it is going to be fucking him. At least they did that. Even though I'm not a fan of his in-ring stuff, the fans have been chanting for him to be aligned with this for a few weeks now. So at least they got a payoff for it. Well, and I wish they'd keep aligned with this instead of because right before Jay yeeded out to yeat with them, he and Braun Breaker were yeeting at each other.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And I don't want to see that match because I'm afraid that it will not look good for Braun who's possibly not experienced enough to cover up for the just bullshit work that Jay Uzi's over as fuck but his work is bullshit. But anyway, we go to the end and then we'll jump back turn around and kiss ourselves
Starting point is 00:20:04 because Priest and Yeat wrestled Finn and JD so if Jay Uso's apparently well Ria kicks the shit out of J.D. anyway right so I guess that wouldn't have been a mismatch this match was
Starting point is 00:20:21 broken up by such breaks and etc the baby face's entrance was an entire segment by itself because they're screaming at them for, you know, because they're all over. And then they came back for the bell
Starting point is 00:20:37 in the start of the match and they were to break again in three minutes. So finally, we're going to the finish because this is what drives me crazy. Again, these people are over. They're drawing all kinds of fucking money. I'm loving the story. But the goddamn wrestling sucks these days.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Because at one point, finally, priest is making a comeback. And he knocks this shit out of Finn, Ball or something. It looks good. Went for the choke slam and Finn just rolled him up. And as soon as priest kicked out of that, Finn got
Starting point is 00:21:13 up and started running and hitting the ropes. And so the heel not only foiled the baby faces finished, but he no-souled. All the bumps he'd taken and the baby faces comeback, including the big clothesliner Zabadai, where as soon as he goes
Starting point is 00:21:29 to be chokeslammed, he can just roll him up and continue on. Do you see what I'm saying here, Brian? Zero to hero. I see what you're saying. And then here's the thing. After, because they had gotten heat on Jay Uso, right? So when he had tagged Priest to make that comeback, here's what had happened.
Starting point is 00:21:54 J. Uso had been punching J.D. and then J.D and I mean insert your joke here headbutted Uso so that may be enough to kill him but Uso then jumped up turned around and kissed myself jumped up and hit him with an Nzegiri and they both were down
Starting point is 00:22:14 so technically the last offensive move that was stricken struck? Struck? Hitten. Hitten. There you go. was from Jay Uso. And when Jay Uso made the tag, I put the stopwatch on it.
Starting point is 00:22:32 You didn't see him again for two solid minutes. While priest was making to come back and Finn was doing all that stuff where he fucking just, you know, instantly came back to life and went back and forth, Uso's laying on the ground somewhere
Starting point is 00:22:50 from tagging when he was the last got to strike a blow. Do you see why this doesn't make sense. I do. Do you see, it may be a television product, but there's 12,000 people in the fucking arena. And part of the
Starting point is 00:23:05 art of wrestling, it was and is being able to occupy everyone in a satisfactory position where it's a contest and you're doing this in one take and theater and around in front of people.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And even in OVW, whenever we would give finishes for television or for the major house shows, I would illustrate to the guys when they would pitch me shit. I'd say, what's so-and-so doing? Well, we hip-tossed him. Okay, that was a minute ago. He ain't going to sell the hip-toss that long.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You've got to know where everybody is, and you've got to keep everybody from standing with their dick in their hand waiting for a spot. or having to be just standing there while other things transpire. And also in a finish, the spotlight has to go on these two guys doing this thing. And then maybe these two guys doing this thing or one of the guys and a manager doing this thing. And it has to go from one thing to the other rather than all happening at the same time or other people miss shit.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And it could even be spotlight for four seconds, bump. And over here, other side of the ring, spotlight for, seven seconds while that transpires. But it has to go Bing, Bing, Bing, instead of all at the same time. And you can't just goddamn die. Or crawl under the fucking ring or sit there eating your fucking lunch for two minutes without 12,000 people seeing you.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Even if you're not shooting you on camera. That's the art of wrestling. Occupy everybody. and if you can't, don't do what you're trying to do, do something else. Then basically, when you saw Uso again, after all this other stuff had happened, he hopped up to the apron to blind-tag priest on the shoulder and immediately come off the top with a crossbody on both the heels. He went from laying on the floor, I guess, unconscious,
Starting point is 00:25:19 to suddenly jumping off the fucking top rope. where I'm going with this. And then Priest was gone. And the last move that Priest had done was to double clothesline the heels and Uso had tagged him on the back. But so
Starting point is 00:25:39 Uso tags him on the back while he's doing a double close light of when he lands he just rolls out of the rig and he's gone while Liv comes out and crotches Usso on a top rope. And J.D. and Finn start double teaming Uso and then Priest, who last double-clos lined these individuals, comes back and makes a save, and everybody sells,
Starting point is 00:26:04 and then Ria's music plays. And then she comes out and hits live with her crutch and chases her hopping on one leg. And then the baby faces beat JD, of course, one, two, three. The chase on one leg was fucking great. but god damn it try on the finishes to keep everybody involved
Starting point is 00:26:30 and make everything exciting without just making people have to disappear right am I being too picky but when you notice so bad where is this motherfucker was he in the match
Starting point is 00:26:43 that's two minutes is too long I don't think you're being too picky you're critiquing it the way people would want you to critique it and that was the main event in a role but like you said we're going to go back and we're going to review at least one other segment that was pretty big on the show, or at least a couple of segments
Starting point is 00:26:58 comprised of one angle. Well, yeah, or however you want to say it. And by the way, I just want to make a couple of observations. Model girl was in a six-man tag again. You may have disagreed with me before when I was talking about how skinny she is, but did you see now she's losing weight by the day, by the week? She's so skinny right now.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Her fallopian baby. tubes aren't plural. I mean, it's just, I don't see how she's going to be able to stand up to the pressure of strong winds and taking bumps much longer, do you? I didn't watch this. I mean, she's a skinny. I don't even talk about the match, just the human being. I fear for her safety.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Her legs may break off and stick up her ass. Well, then where would you be with legs broken off and stuck in your ass? In AEW. Well, there you go. No, a lot of people there deserve a boot broken off in their ass. Anyway, the 9 o'clock hour was the other piece of business we have to talk about because this one harken back to the days of heat. Heat!
Starting point is 00:28:11 The 9 o'clock hour came. They need stars out there. They need people that the fans want to see. And all of a sudden, like Mussolini, coming out happy. punk is smiling right at me. Oh, God. No, did you see? Came out, he was happy.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Smiling faces. Sometimes. I guess that song doesn't fit. But even, what makes you happy? Then why the hell are you? Well, that don't fit either. That's not the song either. It's if it makes you happy, not what makes you happy.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Well, what makes you happy? Me? All right. Anyway. punk came out happy. He's smiling because he won in Berlin. He won in Berlin. He conquered the
Starting point is 00:29:03 Drew McIntyre. He got that bracelet. He got a big pop to see him, punk chance, got a big pop for his line. Isn't it great to be alive and well? And where were they, Wartburg, Denver, Denver, Colorado. Two nights in a row counting the NXT thing.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So they're selling 20,000 thousand tickets out there. Folks, not even newsworthy anymore. and he reacts to his win, and then he switches gears, and he does an entire promo where he says, you know, remember I said, I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to make money,
Starting point is 00:29:39 and he explains how he wants Gunther for the world title next. I put Drew McIntyre to sleep, it's time that CM Punk woke up as champion. And he's got the energy, and again, he's talking, to him and he's engaging and he did it long enough
Starting point is 00:29:59 that you're thinking that well okay yeah now the next big fucking match because he just won he's got his shit back is punk and Gunther that'll be goddamn interesting and he says I'm going to take the world title from Gunther and play my funky music
Starting point is 00:30:19 white boy well he didn't actually say that but he called for his music and it's playing and he got out and he slapped some hands of some fans. He's on the announced desk. This is right about where they always go to break, right? And suddenly his fucking punk looks down and he goddamn his feet get jerked out from under him. And it's Drew McIntyre at a
Starting point is 00:30:42 black hoodie covering his identity slinking in like a thief in a dark. And he beat that shit out of punk and he slammed his head into the desk and Wade Barrett finally, the old friend, because they're from across the pond together. Some part
Starting point is 00:31:04 of the United Kingdom, I can't keep track of where everybody, but they sound somewhat alike. Wade's his old friend, he's backing him up. And that's where I thought Tessotori was, at one point was calling it
Starting point is 00:31:19 like a car race maybe, and now Wade is backing him up. And there was a shit kicking three feet in front of him, but then he kind of panicked him a little bit more. But McIntyre blows around Wade Barrett and Claymored Punk over the desk and throws him in the ring and a Claymore in the ring. And now here come the agents, but God damn it.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Most of them are grown adults and Jamie Noble's there too. I kid, I kid, I just, I wanted to pop some of the other boys. But they could, they could do something besides hold their hands up, right? And fucking, you know, just adopt these poses where they're like, please don't do this. Try to restrain him, let him jerk away, whatever. But anyway, Drew's on him still again, he takes the bracelet and breaks it and gets the beads
Starting point is 00:32:20 and shove-emes, shove-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-mes. He shoves is what he did. Oh, he did it. He shoved them in Punk's mouth, and then his punk is staggering up. He hits another Claymore to his face, and punk goes down and he's like he's choking on the beads. And then Pierce is out there, the referees, and they're trying to restrain him, and finally McIntyre leaves and the EMTs come out with the wheelie stretcher, and they're going to tape Punk down and try to figure, does he need oxygen?
Starting point is 00:32:53 is he choking on these beads, his neck, is he broken, whatever, what the fuck's going on? And then right when they come back from the break, as soon as they replay that in a split screen, they're showing punk being wheeled through the back as they take him to wherever the, the ambulance must have parked in the fucking discount lot because they were wheeling him quite a ways.
Starting point is 00:33:17 But as they're going through the back, there's McIntyre again and hops on him, but boom, and he rips a neck brace off, and he's choking him, and he gouges his eyes. and now punk's bleeding from the mouth. Is it throat damage from the beads, or is it blah, blah, blah. And there's an element of chaos going on.
Starting point is 00:33:38 So I liked that just as, again, this is more grown-up than the shit that we were having to watch. Was it this time last year? Has it been a little longer now? Time flies when you have fun. You know, Testatory made a comment. on commentary of all places. What a fucking place to stick a comment in when he's doing his commentary. He made a comment on commentary about how this has been the most heated rivalry in WWE all year.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And I said to you after the pay-per-view where Punk pretty decisively beat Drew McIntyre, where do they go from here? What's the next thing? They just had the gimmick match and we saw what happened. Is that the end for now? and they certainly teased into that with the Gunther promo, which made you think, oh, that's something I haven't thought about. And now they hated this thing back up.
Starting point is 00:34:32 What do you think, what do you think of them doing this? And what do you think? I mean, you saw this kind of feud in Memphis. Again, it's a little different, but the never-ending feud where one guy can never one up the other. And this is, again, they've had two matches now. I mean, you know, if it was the territory days,
Starting point is 00:34:53 my God, think of how many times Dusty Rhodes wrestled Kevin Sullivan in Florida or Lawler wrestled Lawler and Dundee and just in one series went like 13 weeks in Memphis.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So they have way not worn this out yet. It's just that modern fans aren't really used to it because they can't keep it interesting a lot of the time. But if you've got something like this that is firing on
Starting point is 00:35:23 all cylinders, keep going. And even if, you know, if they had originally planned, well, I blow it off in Berlin, the blow off in Berlin. The story behind Lawler and Dundees run in the summer of 77 in Memphis, and I say 13 weeks, actually over a, what was it, over a 13-week period, they were against each other in some stipulation, in some fashion, I believe, in 11 weeks of those shows and sold right under 100,000 tickets in one building in the same city and Jared was going to blow it off at the end of August
Starting point is 00:36:09 and that's where they did the deal where it was the end of August or maybe even the first week in September Labor Day where it was Lawler and Dundee, Hair versus Hair. And when they did such a big house again, he said, fuck, he said, they're still interesting. in this and that's where he went to Dundee afterwards and talked to him to putting his wife Beverly's hair up and they came back the next week to do another big house and shaved her head
Starting point is 00:36:33 the tape of that does not exist I wonder why because they really shaved her fucking head but point is you know if you've got people interested in something as long as you change it up and make it different and one side is not dominating the other the heel gets heat but he doesn't just kill the baby face and the baby face, you know, is wronged, but he just didn't lay there like a limp fish. And you strike the balance. You see where I'm going with this? Yeah. Well, we see where they're going with this now. More Drew McIntyre and CM Punk. How long does punk have to be out if he does have to be out just to sell this a week? Or does it have to be longer? Does it have to be not even be a week? You can come back next week
Starting point is 00:37:19 attack. Well, hold on now. Jesus Christ, Rousseau? Answer everything and answer them all concisely, if you don't mind. Depending on what the injury or if they're going to name a specific injury, say for example, he got vocal cord damage because he choked on these beads or when they got kicked down his throat. And so he might be able to come back and fight, but he might speak with a whisper. You know what I'm saying? The Pilman angle from years ago. Or depending, they had a neck collar on him. So was it an injury to the neck and the beads were an insult? And when he got smushed, he fucking busted his mouth open. Depending on the injury or what they're going to say would depend on the comeback and the method or manner or time frame. So we got to wait till next week.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Indeed we do. And that was WWE Raw on the USA Network for now. For now. But Jim, while WWE and USA Network will remain friends going into the future, we have a lot of friends listening to this show and a lot of friends that are used to really bad transitions. And we're going to make one right now because we're going to tell our friends about our new friends at Orgain.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Well, there you are. there you ended it. I thought it was going to be more flowery and more verbose, but you handed it right to me like a turd on a platter. But I will take up for the ball here and tell you that folks
Starting point is 00:38:59 we do have new friends at Orgain and I got to be honest with you, I was scoffing in my head. I was scoffing at this product because I remember sitting there at Vince McMahon's dining room table in his big mansion, trapped like a rat in a cage
Starting point is 00:39:18 writing days or 10, 12 hours long and I would see intermittently or in the limo or in the production meetings wherever we were. I would see Vince McMahon make a protein shake and he would take some kind of
Starting point is 00:39:38 powder out of something with a trowel and he would put water in it or some other type of bleh liquid, and he would shake it in his shaker thing and he would drink this stuff. It looked like a mixture of mud and dirty mortar. And that is the opinion that I've always had of protein shakes. Now, of course, this was 30 years ago,
Starting point is 00:40:06 but still is when you're scarred by something, Brian, as a young child, then it stays with you. you, but that's what I thought the protein shakes were just blah, chalky, muddy, dirty, shaky, upy stuffy, that, shaky upy stuffy. Shaky upy stuffy, really? That the bodybuilders and the body freaks drank because they can choke down anything, squirrel vomit if it'll help them get those big muscles. Why didn't you ever tell me that it doesn't have to be that way?
Starting point is 00:40:41 Well, it doesn't have to be that way. They could taste good. They could actually taste really, really, really good. Yes. So that you want way too many because they're really good. That's why I'm telling you that you goddamn you've hidden this from. You're my connection to the modern world, Brian, and you haven't told me I had to wait until the people at Orgain sent me their protein shake.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And now you want to drink so much. Can you overdose on protein? No. Because these things are... I don't think so. Well, by Cracky, I'm going to try. No, no, you're not going to try. You're going to try to have a respectable amount as required as not required.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I'm going to, I'm going to tie my arm off, and I'm going to get a vein and a syringe, and I'm going to inject it right in there because. No, no. Boy, I'll tell you what, but this stuff is the real, it's the protein-powered nutrition that understands that being good for you doesn't have to taste bad. And it was, organ was founded by Dr. Andrew Abraham. And a man with two first names that becomes a doctor has to be respected.
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Starting point is 00:42:25 or is it 30 grams of the shake? 30 gram protein, only 160 calories, and it's delicious. These things are amazing. I'm so happy with this. And they remind me of the chocolate milkshakes that my mother used to give me in a can back in the 60s when I was a young man as a reward for taking my iron pill.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I know we have a lot of listeners that work out and you need a protein shake. A lot of them do drink protein shakes. Check this out. I'm serious. 30 grams of protein, 160 calories and a delicious. And also, here's another thing. I was all prepared and I figured out a way it's even better and healthier
Starting point is 00:42:59 because this is a chocolate milkshake, basically. That's what it tastes like. They say protein shake. gets a chocolate milkshake. Here's what you do. You get you about a quart of vanilla ice cream in a bowl and then pour one of these bad boys over the top of it. No.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And eat that thing with a spoon. Boy, howdy is that good. Well, again, we're focusing on the nutritious side of things today. And while that may taste good because these are indeed delicious shakes, this chocolate fudge, 30 gram protein shake. But let's not talk about mixing it with the most fattening thing you have. Well, no, because see, then you're even having. healthier because that the ice cream, the vanilla ice cream, the vanilla bean is a natural plant,
Starting point is 00:43:43 so there's organicness. And the, the milk from a cow comes straight from the udder and they just put it in the freezer. So you're drinking God's creatures fucking. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. But let's just end this and let's end this concisely by letting the people know if you work out, if you need a healthy alternative to other snacks, something that will cause your stomach to feel full, a delicious, nutritious protein shake filled with chocolate and of course 30 grams of protein. I must say
Starting point is 00:44:13 I endorse this. I've been using it. I like it. You even like it. That's scary, but that's Orgaine. How can the listeners get it? Jim. I thought you said concisely. Well, right now all you've got to do is listen to me. The 30 gram protein shakes from Orgaine
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Starting point is 00:45:28 Let us know what you think. Why are you screaming? Because we're moving quick. This is a fun, fast-paced action-packed show. You never know what's going to happen. Quick but not loud. Or gain. Or gain.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Do you remember, did you ever hear those Larry King commercial years ago? Commercial. Those Larry King's commercials years ago for garlic? Yes, I remember. I remember that. Apparently. It had the worst tagline ever, garlique, as in unique. What?
Starting point is 00:45:59 Well, it didn't help him very much either because he didn't last long after that, did it? And was that what was making him look so desiccated to begin with, even before he passed into the other world? I think it was only about breath, but I'm not exactly sure what it was. I just remember the tagline, garlic, as in unique, which doesn't say anything about what it does or anything. You know, one-of-a-kind thing can taste like absolute horseshit or poison you to fucking death instantly. We don't know what happened to Larry, but he needed. Orgain won't do any of these things. He needed some organ, that Larry King. Yeah, he needed a variety of organs.
Starting point is 00:46:31 All right. Well, Jim, before we move on to what you watched on Dynamite, again, not a full review. Let's discuss one of the biggest stories of the week, one of the biggest mysteries of the week. Odyssey Jones. He was drafted the Raw two years in a row. You raved about him when you saw him in NXT and then he vanished. He recently reappeared maybe three weeks ago, four week, three weeks ago, I think. Yeah. Put him with the New Day, they're teasing Xavier Woods' turn. Next thing we hear, he's off the roster page on the website and now word has come out that apparently he has been fired or
Starting point is 00:47:07 released due to a domestic violence incident and I'm not even sure when it happened but they just found that about it. Well but I have a lot of questions. This is another one of those things where I have a lot of questions about because there was no
Starting point is 00:47:25 in no place reported that there was any police report or arrest record or whatever currently right now going on. Everybody said that nobody could find a police report or an arrest warrant or anything of that nature of a recent happening. Is that what you read? I have not seen anything about a report or anything. The only thing I saw was someone sent me, Corny Drive-Thru at gmail.com, a bunch of tweets, I guess, from someone over the summer accusing him of being abusive to them. And I
Starting point is 00:48:00 The Twitter account was something like, you know, Odyssey Jones won't be forgiven or we'll let the truth know. Yes, that's it. I saw the same thing on Twitter. Somebody had a screenshot of just moving, a moving video of these constant tweets going, Odyssey Jones, you know, must burn at the stake or whatever the account was, over and over that he assaulted someone, it was worded as it if it was someone else, whatever, on vacation at some such and such time. It's been on vacation for two years.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Well, but the point is, you know, it would seem to be hard for someone as rigorous as they are, have been in the past about doing the background checks, doing the medical, doing all that stuff. I've talked to numerous guys. I've had to go through paperwork and hoops and everything. They would have missed something if there was any criminal action taken or any, you know, law enforcement involvement or anything legitimate that had been reported.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And would you suddenly just take somebody's word for it if an incident happened months or years ago enough to immediately scrub the guy in the middle of a fucking I mean, boom, he's gone. So how did they receive information on
Starting point is 00:49:36 whatever he may or may not have done that made them decide to just say, fuck you, get out of here right now. But yet there's no evidence that any crime was reported or committed or etc. Do you see where I'm going with this? Well, again,
Starting point is 00:49:50 We don't know what evidence there is or isn't, but we haven't seen anything public. The other thing is... Well, that's what I'm not saying we know the evidence. I'm just saying if you could say he was arrested for this, or there's the mugshot, or here's the 911 call. Usually in a situation like that, boom, you're gone. But if somebody doesn't produce those things, it's not like instantly, unless they have not been made public. That's why I say I have questions. But again, we don't know what his relationship is with the office.
Starting point is 00:50:19 and we don't know if there's been anything else in the past that has caused them maybe even if not domestic violence just to wonder about someone's character like if there's one more thing, we don't know. That's why I was wondering why do we see him for two fucking years? Is there something wrong with this? That was when we first resurfaced.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I said, I thought there was something wrong with this fucking guy at this point that we hadn't seen him. So apparently we're not going to see him again. He's gone on an odyssey, Brian. Well, again, various reports that they have no plans for him. Brian Alvarez flat out said he has been released. So that's the last report. Well, and Alvarez has his nose in everybody's business.
Starting point is 00:51:00 You know, it's not exactly the same, and I'm not comparing it or comparing the people. But, you know, the Velveteen dream, when he got let go, and there were a whole bunch of things, and it was involving children or someone underage, I don't know exactly. Well, hold on now. Let's not. Someone underage. Someone underage. Well, yes, it was like a teenager of 15, 16, but we're not talking about some fucking six-year-old toddler.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Let's not do that to the poor fellow. He's not saying that. He apologized many times. We used children. And then I corrected myself and said someone underage. But that was another story too, right, where the accusations broke online on like Twitter, where someone just created an accountant started saying stuff? As I recall, it again, I didn't study him to write a book on him or anything.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But as I recall, that was. But then there had, there were. numbers of incidents that kind of started snowballing around that same time with him and just his general demeanor at the point. At this point in 2024,
Starting point is 00:51:59 what does it do to your career of WWE cuts bait with you like this? Well, it gives Tony Kahn a chance to fucking snatch somebody away. Here, the problem is poor Odyssey Jones is the size of three of Tony's rest of his roster practically. So if, if,
Starting point is 00:52:17 he wants to be a wrestler at this point, it may be, you know, go to the Indies and work hard as others have done and, you know, hope for another chance or reinvent yourself or whatever. But I don't believe he's a spring chicken, is he? Because he played football or whatever. I don't have his age here. Well, why not? God damn it. You're supposed to keep track. Don't you have that age list? I sent you. 30 years old. 30 years old. All righty, but he's also 400 pounds, so you got to think that that ages your joints a little bit more. According to Wikipedia, 65309. Well, 65 and 309 is going to have to hit the goddamn Indies.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Jim, speaking of the Indies, let's talk about some of AEW Dynamite again. Thankfully, you didn't watch the whole thing, and there wasn't too much to watch. They're getting into a phase now where there's long matches. with people you don't care about, and then there's long multi-man matches with multiple people you don't care about every episode. Just to break up the monotony, right?
Starting point is 00:53:26 Instead of having these single matches you don't care about, they're going to give you multiple man matches you don't care about. I have problems with a number of these things, and they started the show, and again, this is the classic definition of, for the kind of people that like that kind of thing, that's the kind of thing those people are going to like.
Starting point is 00:53:45 when the WWE is giving us mega stars that are in major mothen pictures and sitcoms and AEW starts a show with the entrance of Danny Garcia you're fucked already
Starting point is 00:54:02 and he goes to the ring and calls out MJF I'm not waiting it sounds like Candido and Tammy, that same, I'm sweating. The same accent. Is he from New Jersey or what the fucks?
Starting point is 00:54:21 I believe he's from Buffalo, New York. Well, and he spent some time in New Jersey. And then they do this constantly. So MJF is in the stands in a spotlight with security, and he's drinking wine, and he's protected up there. And just random observations, folks, it's so sad that MJF is having to try to get he's not ready for primetime players over.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But at the same point, this is not working for MJF either because it's the same kind of shit most weeks with people that we really don't give a fuck about except for the dwindling number of people that are in the arena watching it. And I don't know what they dwindled down to
Starting point is 00:55:09 while I'm rambling. Try to figure out what town they were in because I don't know if they had enough people in the building to do a wide shot when they were doing cover pitches where the announcers would throw to something, they were shooting the ceiling again. And this is not productive for the, again, the guy that's dwindling,
Starting point is 00:55:32 hanging by a thread of being their top star, MJF, and they're tearing each other down. And yes, he's verbally, bullying Garcia like he does everybody, but Garcia is talking about MGAF's acne, being covered by makeup and his hair transplanting turkey. And no, and then his, and then he talks about the worst thing, his fake love for AEW. Yeah, that's the worst thing. That's the worst thing.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Other than this fucking devilish heel has ever done is he doesn't really love the company that we all work for because we're all worker bees. But you can ruin the illusion with a shoot as well as you can sell tickets and create heat with a shoot. And you can have a personal issue with somebody without exposing to the fans, things that they might not particularly think about or even know about, but that will ruin the illusion of the other intended party, which I've found out early in Mid-South
Starting point is 00:56:46 you know you couldn't the one thing we couldn't say about Mr. Wrestling too was that he was old because guess what he was fucking old but he was still a salty old bastard and he'd take it out on the boys in the ring but it would diminish his aura because with the mask he was kind of timeless
Starting point is 00:57:04 so we could we could say he was a criminal that had to hide his identity or we could make fun of his fucking knee lift or his goofy fucking gyrations in the ring or his gruff demeanor but we couldn't say but also he's almost fucking 60 and he's bald as a cue ball.
Starting point is 00:57:29 So anyway MJF had to listen to this whole goddamn thing while Garcia told the long story about MJF is going to feel a tingle when he picks up his future baby. He had him married off and had a baby, and when you pick up your future baby, you're going to feel a tingle. And you're going to have to tell this fictitious baby that Danny Garcia ended your career. And I really, it was like it's, again, there's MJF up there with the security guard standing by in the spotlight, and there's Garcia in the ring.
Starting point is 00:58:05 It's like theater in the round meets a college debate class. it just slowed everything goddamn down. MJF had the perfect reaction. That reaction was the best part of this whole thing. Well, y'all can't give me my hand. Danny, learn to speak. MJF just standing up silently and clapping his hands was one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.
Starting point is 00:58:28 But then he has to goddamn do his shit. And he let the fans, he paused to look at the fans or getting on him one time long enough, they start chanting, shut the fuck up, and they don't even try to bleep it on this porn channel that they're on either. What a goddamn bunch of degenerates. Well, they allowed the word fuck on this program
Starting point is 00:58:53 on national cable for six times. There are a bunch of filthy-mouthed people. Where's the parents' resource council? Where's tipper gore? Is she still able to be tipped over and set out? I don't think Tipper has been on the front lines
Starting point is 00:59:11 of that battle in many, many years. I bet you Al hadn't been on the front lines of Tipper in many years. She was scared of Frank Zappa. Imagine what she'll think of Tony Kahn.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Oh, my, well, and she'll think, actually, didn't Frank Zappa have a son that looks somewhat like Tony Kahn? Dweasel? Dweasel was his name,
Starting point is 00:59:31 and Dweasel was his name, Oh, all right, so MJF is going to do his thing here. And finally he tells Danny that when he breaks his neck, and again, it's almost like a Moxley thing. Now, MJF, everybody knows, especially this audience, knows that you're not really going to paralyze this guy for life.
Starting point is 00:59:53 You're not going to break his neck and drink his blood. But then when he breaks Danny Garcia's neck, his mother will take care of Danny like she's taking care of all the other men on their backs in her bed and her day. and just By the way, your mother's a whore She is gratified so many of them
Starting point is 01:00:23 And so Danny bails out And starts running up there And here these Security comes And Garcia's throwing those awful Tator punches That I talked about last week We can't throw a punch
Starting point is 01:00:39 And hit anybody's Proper target with his fist, but he'll hit him in a face with some elbow, forearm, missive, whatever. And then he fights his way up to the box. And MJF, as soon as he charges MJF, MJF breaks the wine bottle over his head. Boom! And down he goes, and that's okay, that looked pretty good, right? Shit, we've done something here.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Maybe MJF could have even looked less shocked like it was a reflex. Like junkyard dog didn't mean the hair cream. Or not jump, but Freebirds didn't mean the hair cream. the hair cream. Yeah. Didn't mean the hair cream in Junkyard Dog's eyes. It was an accident. But instead, he takes a sip of wine, he straightens his jacket,
Starting point is 01:01:24 brushes himself off, he goes and sits Danny up, and Danny's got a little pap smear of juice to him. Oh, was a good little amount. I wouldn't call that a pap smear, would you? Well, it finally, it dripped down right below his eyes for. fuck's sake. If you're going to get hit over the head with a bottle, like these to the bone for the business, kid. But anyway, he's got to, this is the worst, it is the fakesest part
Starting point is 01:01:55 that Garcia's got to act like he's knocked out and MJF cradles his head, squats down next to him. So do you mind if I sit next to you? And cuts a dramatic whispering promo to him about all the horrible things he's going to do to him. And nobody's trying to stop it. All the security has disappeared. And again, like I said about on the WWE, where a priest disappeared and Uso disappeared after they had done offensive shit, right?
Starting point is 01:02:25 One of the security guards right before the bottle shot, all fucking Garcia did was shove him out of the way. What did you do? Fall in a goddamn crevice and be trapped like little Timmy's down the well. Lassie, lassie, get help. Little Timmy's in the well. And everybody, the crowd is silent listening to this, and the spotlight is on it. It looked like a goddamn stage play.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And MJF doesn't need to do fake shit. Do you see what my problem was with this thing that went so long? Yeah, I wasn't crazy about the ending too and MJF kissing him and then, just playing with the blood on his mouth or whatever the fuck was happening there. But I think there are elements of what MJF did that I like, but I've said it before, MJF being used to elevate these guys that should not be elevated right now is ridiculous. And it keeps happening. It's been, it feels like a couple of years of this.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I mean, even the stuff with the four pillars, which didn't really work right, didn't really take off or click correctly because he was the only one that could do a promo. it's just he keeps being used to elevate guys he's better like you said interacting with other main event people but there aren't any main event people that's the problem generally there are no people osprey's a main event person he's already dealing with other people and working on other things moxley's got his own how the how the fuck didn't we get a rematch on that shit
Starting point is 01:04:04 a la drew and punk because for fuck's sake at least it was interesting well you asked before uh jim about the attendance. Oh, well, and hold on a second. Let me bring one more thing up, and we can talk about the attendance, because this is still this segment. As soon as MJF is done with this dramatic remission, did you hear Sok Face's pitch from the broadcast desk? Oh, I don't remember that specific one, but he had a really rough night. There were points where he couldn't figure out what words they're saying, he got flustered. Oh, well, that's, that's normal. And then Chivani would jump in with nothing. Just, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Oh, that's a great call. I'm digging this. This is great. Nothing. He says nothing. Bubblehead. Bubblehead. You bubble-headed booby.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But what did he say? Well, the point is, the pitch. Now, examine what has happened from a broader standpoint. Daniel Garcia, one of the wrestlers, has called out one of the other wrestlers, MJF. MJF's in a stands, they've had words back and forth. It's led to a fight where at least. Five to seven security guards have apparently been paralyzed or rendered in some type of coma.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And then a bottle got broken over Daniel Garcia's head. And MJF was drinking his blood and nobody was able to stop it. And then Sokface says, well, we're going to get medical attention for Daniel Garcia. But right now to backstage and our colleague Renee Moksley Good who was smiling. Thanks, guys. With four baby faces, who were all small. Willow was there smiling,
Starting point is 01:05:48 and Briscoe was there smiling. And Calo Raleigh was there making funny, goofy faces, because why not his career is over anyway, poor fella. And Osprey came in smiling. Even if they pre-taped it at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, they hadn't know where they were putting in the show. They acted like, well, yeah, fucking Garcia may have brain damage, He's bleeding like a stuck hog, but we got to get this fucking interview in,
Starting point is 01:06:16 otherwise we're in a good fucking move. Not even just any interview, but, you know, Garcia may be dead, but Renee Moxley Good is talking to the comedy troupe. Let's go to them. Yes. Can I do? It's always poorly formatted. They never do the right thing.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Never, ever, ever. And these segments are awful. The backstage promo segments specifically. Jim, AW-D dynamite was in Milwaukee. at the Milwaukee Panther Arena. As of yesterday, what time was this? As of 4.30 p.m. yesterday. So two hours before the doors opened,
Starting point is 01:06:54 according to Russellticks, 2,448 tickets distributed. The previous time they were there for Dynamite in April of 2023, 3,273 tickets distributed. Well, that ain't none to write home about, but they were down 1,000, but that's distributed. And as we found out, and we may talk about it separately in more detail,
Starting point is 01:07:18 but Wembley Stadium, Tony said over 50,000 sold, Russell Ticks or whoever reported 53,000 distributed. The turnstall count apparently was 46,000. So again, you could take 10% as an average off of these tickets distributed number to get the number of people in the building. And what did this... And by the way, that doesn't explain how Tony said there were over 50,000 sold. Well, because, see, that's...
Starting point is 01:07:49 To a mark who is not even used to using the terminology, he might... Yeah, we sold over 50,000 tickets because he heard, ah, yeah, we got 50,000 tickets out. And he doesn't bother to get to break down. He just... Hey, you want to hear something just as scary? Next week, they're at the Rupp Arena again.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Oh, boy. Like she did Kentucky. Wednesday, September 11th, as of now, 2,305 tickets distributed. The current setup is 3301. The last time they were there, last August, for collision, 3,228 tickets sold. They're underperforming everywhere they go. Do you think they're going to get less than 3,228? Well, I mean, again, they would need to sell 900 tickets in a week.
Starting point is 01:08:36 No, no, they would need to distribute. Distribute. That's right. 900 tickets. So they can call ticket master or call the building and say print 500 tickets and send them over such, such radio station. And so they may have that number maybe over 3,000, but it won't be paid. And again, Rup Arena and Lexington, right now they have 2,305 tickets out. And the capacity of the building, if it was full to the brim, 23,000.
Starting point is 01:09:06 so they they could almost do this in a fucking shipping container is sitting on the floor of Rupp Arena but what I was where I was going with that was just that they had 2,000 people
Starting point is 01:09:21 what is this joint, this ballroom this expo hall this arena in Milwaukee Panther Arena I'll get you the attendance or capacity in a moment capacity in a moment that we'll pass by O'Cody and Feltcher
Starting point is 01:09:35 had a match that by the time they went to the ring, had the match, finished the match, and take a shit, reappeared, and chased off, O'Codey, 23 minutes long. Capacity is 12,700, although that may be for hockey. Ew.
Starting point is 01:09:55 All righty, so, around 20% of a house. That's better than they'll do in Lexington. Okay, what, again, I've got to bring to mind that maybe the plumber needs to go back for one of his cures. Is he on something? Does he see something else that we don't see?
Starting point is 01:10:21 Does he see something that nobody else understands? I'm out on dope. I'm just dope. Dope is a word I would use. As in the stork that brought him was arrested for carrying dope. Hey, how'd you hear about that? I got the arrest record of the stork and the body cam footage
Starting point is 01:10:43 just seen when they pulled him over Can anyone be a successful badass character in green pants? Well and also if anybody even understands what the fuck he's doing and what she's doing Marina Schaefer we don't know what she's doing she beats up
Starting point is 01:11:05 four random guys as they're walking through the back of the arena. We've seen more women beat up male security guards on AEW in the last two months that ever in wrestling history. You know what? After she beat up the first three, the other guy should just pick up a pipe and just baseball battered in the fucking face.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Make her look like she'd been chasing parked cars. Why wouldn't you... Why doesn't anyone go for a double leg? No, nothing. They just... They bent over... Oh, my God. Please don't kick me.
Starting point is 01:11:38 the balls oaf that'd be great one day one of the security guards gets overzealous and just close lines the shit out of her and then they fire him on the air but they walk up and there's the douchebag twins and jungle jackoff standing in the back in their
Starting point is 01:11:55 fine suits and now last we saw Moxley he was allegedly a baby face the people cheered for him and he did nothing to discourage this even though his wrestling was all over the page. But now he looks at them
Starting point is 01:12:11 and he tells Jungle Jack, hey, I don't care what they say. You're a sweet kid. And this girl he's with is beating up innocent people at random for no reason. And so then when they walk into the arena,
Starting point is 01:12:28 tell me that they didn't benefit from Wild Thing. Because listen to this lack of response with this generic what is it? kind of music is this generic music? A crap. Crapola, I guess some people may say, but, you know, it's interesting how many AEW stars have music with built-in crowd noise. Every time Osprey comes out there, like, man, the
Starting point is 01:12:53 house sounds good tonight. And then I'm like, no, that isn't them, because as soon as the music went, also did they. And Moxu a Wild Thing, that's a loud song that gets people going. Judas, Judas, same thing, you just brought it up the other day about Judas. When Jericho came out singing that other shitty song at Wembley. It wasn't even that no one moved. No one wanted to hear it. It was terrible. Well, Moxley's whole thing when he does the promo is he wonders where Darby Allen is.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And in this bizarre manner that Moxley has, he put Darby over verbally and, you know, and when he wants to talk to Darby and don't make me apply pressure. I'm not an impatient man I just want to talk and then he throws the microphone down and he walks out and she walks out and they walk out and the people are like what the fuck and
Starting point is 01:13:50 the announcers are actually saying how confusing this is and this is a new attitude from Maghlin but this is confused we don't know what he's talking about and of course they're keeping up the angle but the thing is, is it good to have an angle where somebody is just confusing you
Starting point is 01:14:12 and you don't know what he's fucking talking about? And you're admitting this. No, so far this is not very good and it seems to be trying to elevate Marina Shafir, not that anyone has really wanted that. I think the people that want to do that are elevated themselves, or at least very high. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Hey Jim, real quick. I'm looking at the upcoming events. September 21st, 2024, collision and rampage. The Mass Mutual Center of Springfield, Massachusetts. 1,668 tickets distributed. The show's in 16 days. Ooh. Now, it's a smaller building.
Starting point is 01:14:55 It's an 8,000 capacity building, apparently. Well, they're not to 25% of it yet, though. Yeah, no. The current setup. It's set up for 2783, but 1668 distributed. That's brutal. All right, well, speaking of brutal, let's make a mention, make a mention of Mercedes Moon, murdering another segment along with poor Camille, who is joined at the hip tour now.
Starting point is 01:15:26 But this is where, I mean, there was no reaction for this. she's not over, she's a fake bad actress. She was talking about Sheeda, the fans chanted, holy sheeda. And Sheeda did a promo on a screen wearing a suit and tie over her own shirt, and then Daniels came in and barred Camille from the match at the pay-per-view. Daniels sucks in this role. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:51 He ain't doing much. He's not working this role at all. He was more shocked at the shirt than anybody. But this was the segment where... As soon as Mercedes is coming to the ring, I guess maybe the director thought, well, we'll try to neutralize some of Mercedes's naysayers because some smart ass in the crowd had a sign that said
Starting point is 01:16:17 cornet is irrelevant. So they zoned in, they zoomed in, on the sign that said cornet is irrelevant and got a close-up of the guy standing behind him in the next row, cornet face t-shirt on. So I wonder, the fight that may have happened if that guy ever turned around backwards
Starting point is 01:16:41 was probably more exciting than anything that happened on his show. That is funny. I mean, the irony of the guy standing out with the sign and there's a fan right behind him with the shirt. The sign looked like shit too. That was the most offensive part.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Well, yeah, it was just some homemade thing a guy did in a toilet or something. It was a sharpie. Yeah, it was the worst-looking sign I've seen on AEW TV and they made sure to get a nice shot of it. And it backfired because all you did was trend the same night we put up the omnibus coincidentally enough about Jim Cordet trending. Well, and that's the thing is.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I trend for the most ridiculous things and we do an omnibus about all the ridiculous things that have made me trend. And then the same day that it's released, I trend not only for this incident, but also because my attorney makes news again. and oh, Cornyett's lawyer. He's going to fucking get AEW and that blah, blah, blah. So I don't even have to goddamn do anything. It's the existence and the magnitude of me at this point.
Starting point is 01:17:49 How does it feel to be irrelevant? What's an irrelevant day like? What do you do when you wake up? Are you upset when relevant strikes? Well, it hits me every day. It's like a heaviness. I wake up in the morning. I look up, and it's like a heavy.
Starting point is 01:18:03 and I say high heaviness. It's Roddy Dangerfield, by the way. But no, you know, once I feel the various offers for movies and motion pictures and sitcoms and then I sit down to my organ protein shake for breakfast before I rub Harley Quinn's tummy, I just sit here and bask in the relevance of me. Anyway, speaking of irrelevance,
Starting point is 01:18:32 they put Will Osprey and the fucking company mascot on the same team and a six-man tag. Pockets O'Reilly and Osprey against Claudio, useless, and PAC. And Brian, between, from the time they started going to the ring, to the time that they finished this match and did an angle afterwards and then an interview about the angle, it was 30 fucking minutes. 30 fucking minutes with these multiple goofs mixed in with one of their new top guys for no reason. Or they made up a reason, but there's no reason for this booking malpractice.
Starting point is 01:19:17 And then Danielson goes in a ring and raises the hands of the... Well, Claudio and useless were still there. Pack and Osprey had gone somewhere else. and then the buckaroos and Jungle Jack and O'Cody jumped them and got heat on them and the baby faces came back and cleared the ring out
Starting point is 01:19:40 and then they cut promos at each other with the fans chanting you fucked up, you fucked up and there was a challenge for the pay-per-view this weekend and then Danielson said and you're going to get your fucking head kicked in
Starting point is 01:19:57 and they bleeped that and then they went to the back and pack suplexed Osprey on equipment cables or cases rather not cables what well that was certainly a uh a segment on a show with segments but there was one big one that a lot of people were talking about coming out of this it was all on the overrun so i hope you caught it but before i even ask you did you see any of the tweets earlier in the day from swerve strickland well no but fortunately they had played the video. Did you skip over the video earlier?
Starting point is 01:20:38 Because they played it. Oh, I didn't know. Did they play it on time? Yes. They played it in the program. Well, we skipped over that too because I was going to tie it into this segment that we're talking about. To make it more concise and more easily understand, digestible for the audience, Brian. Earlier in the show, they had played a video of swerve, all humble and baby face with Nana, his manager,
Starting point is 01:21:01 standing in front of the house that he grew up. in his childhood home and had pictures of him in the home I'd like to see some pictures of swerve in a home but no come on he had he had the pictures
Starting point is 01:21:18 and he basically with his new AEW contract he's finally achieved his lifelong dream he's been able to purchase the house that he grew up in it was a modest house and I'm sure it held many
Starting point is 01:21:33 wonderful memories and their standing in front of it, and you get a real good look at it, and, you know, that's a happy thing that happened, and he wasn't too over the top with it, but that's what happened, right? So then, as you said, 10 o'clock, the regulation program is already over with, and if you didn't DVR, but fortunately, I've enjoyed the antics of the Dunphy family on modern family, so I've been recording that and I was able to see this part of the wrestling program. They're doing a contract signing with
Starting point is 01:22:09 Swerve and Page. And Swerve comes out and sits down the table and they play Page's music and he doesn't come out. And it's awkward and then they say, well, I think Chavani will try this again. Hangman Adam Page and they play his music again. And again, no pay. And the thing, they've established the guerrilla position is right behind the curtain.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Wouldn't they know if the motherfucker was not there? Especially if he wasn't in the building and nobody had seen him. I've worked in the television production of these things. You don't intro a son of a bitch unless he's standing at gorilla. But leaving them to this loophole. All of a sudden, page pops up on the screen. And he's going in the front door of Swerve's childhood home. And he proceeds to do what I can only describe as an audition for a low-budget horror movie
Starting point is 01:23:18 that he would be the star of maybe if some of his friends pitched in. You know, like the do-it-yourself videos that became popular in the early 90s. The Blair Elite Project. Or maybe the Blair Bitch Project. and he he's talking and he said swerve's father
Starting point is 01:23:39 didn't love him probably told him to shut up so he could hear the TV he was a mistake they didn't mean to have him I tell the parents are suffering on this program
Starting point is 01:23:51 tonight the mothers are whores and the fathers are drunken fucking cretons and he breaks a window as he's you know
Starting point is 01:24:02 walking through and then he goes outside on the porch and he gets a fucking the can of gasoline again. I'm telling you if we could do an investigation of the unsolved arsonists
Starting point is 01:24:14 or arsonees, the various arson offenses, I bet you some of these people are responsible. They've got a goddamn fetish with this stuff. Tony Kahn has funded more arson than maybe anyone in American history. BP oil has not fucking spilled as much
Starting point is 01:24:34 gasoline out in public is so anyway he pours gasoline on a porch and he walks out and he sits in an overstuffed easy chair out in the yard with the house in back of him by the way was that chair in the house
Starting point is 01:24:50 and he brought it out there for this or did he bring the chair with him well this is kind of like one of those questions kind of like the Louisville pooper that we talked about on the last show and by the way he's still on the loose no is he he's still on the loose but they've increased police
Starting point is 01:25:06 patrolling in the area and the homeowner has got police tape that he's put around his front porch so he hoped that they won't but yeah I think the guy's artificially doing it also because it looks runny I think he's shoving chocolate pudding
Starting point is 01:25:22 up his ass and then squatting down and being able to just shit instantly because it doesn't look real it looks runny but the homeowner did say that it was poop so maybe he's giving himself some kind of inima right before
Starting point is 01:25:38 he comes up on the porch, because it's just instantly, you see from the video. I don't know, but maybe Adam Page could have just done that. Just taking a shit on his porch and what? We weren't going to sub-reference anymore. But anyway, the overstuffed easy chair
Starting point is 01:25:54 that somehow is, it's not a yard chair, it's a house chair. He's sitting in at the house and back of him. He cuts another long, dramatic promo while Swerve is having to stand in the ring and emote it oh my gosh what can I do what can I do
Starting point is 01:26:12 and then Paige lights the gasoline and the the flame goes in a trail behind him like in the movies because this was a special effect and it goes up the porch and then suddenly the whole house just blows up
Starting point is 01:26:28 like he lit the goddamn ammo dump at F troop and the problem is with all of this when they pull back and he's in the yard it's not the same fucking house it had a railing across the porch there was no railing on the other half people were putting the pictures up on Twitter now are they trying to say was he out in the backyard
Starting point is 01:26:55 who did did he put some type of goddamn plastic explosive in the rooms also to create this his fucking phony see that'd be the best story ever if all of a sudden next week they come out he burned the wrong house there's some family that he's put in why was swerve looking at he go it's my fucking house he should have been standing
Starting point is 01:27:18 going you dib shit you went to the wrong house by the way if swerve lived in Washington in Seattle or somewhere in that area and it's three hours behind what it was on the east coast and it was 10 o'clock why was it dark why was it dark Why was it so dark? Because they shot it in Virginia.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Where else you're going to find a shitty house like that fucking burned at a moment's notice? And besides that, when the fucking, when they called the fire department, and the fire department answered, the guy said, my house is on fire. And he said, whose house? And they said, Swarves house. So now this guy has burned down, even in the worst of neighborhood. You know, if you burn down a house that's approaching a six-figure loss these days and significantly more in most places.
Starting point is 01:28:13 In Washington State, it's expensive to have a house, yeah. Well, I mean, let's get a look at the house. I mean, come on. I mean, I'm surprised that with a tornado that came through last week in that neighborhood, it did $3 million worth of improvements. But still. So they burned the man's house down now. Burning down the house.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Hey, fake show. And I'm glad it's over. Fake show. Last week on the fake show, Swerve was clearly the heel, antagonizing Adam Page. Yes. Adam Page finally dressed up that, and then Swerve just came right back at him.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I've seen your wife, made it real personal. Adam Page left. Who is the baby face? Who is the baby face? I don't know if I'm rooting for either one of them. Because if you, you know, when Paige can say, well, I burned your childhood home down, but you terrorized my baby. Remember when he broke in Page's house and terrorized the baby,
Starting point is 01:29:22 the unseen baby in the crib? That's right. The unseen people in this house, we have no idea what was happening. This adage just lit a house. Again, the funny thing would be if they kept the camera rolling that some guy ran up. That's my house. What have you thought of my house? Either that or they should have got the special effects guy to do the thing they did with old jungle jackoff on the paper view and have a guy run out on fire.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Oh, shit. Oh, goddamn. This is not Swerve's house. Swarves House is that one. It's like an inflatable non-al-al-alone. I know even if it was Swerve's house, it could have been Swerve's uncle. Uncle Swerve. And he could have fucking run out.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Oh, God damn it. So, again, they have the pay-per-view in a few days. We're not even doing a preview clip because there isn't enough time. The paperview's right around the corner. Well, yeah, and they're announcing main events as we speak. As we speak, so we don't even know what will happen. But they do this to heat up, quite literally, this feud going into this pay-per-view. Again, this is during the overrun.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Dave Meltzer says he studies it and it goes up. and it goes down. We've been, it seems like every single week talking about it being a big loss for everything with Danielson and swerve. We'll see what happens with this. What do you think is, you know, is this a moment that will propel interest? Is this a moment that's akin to jumping the shark or literally lighting the house on fire? Yeah, I was thinking shark week. Because even the most Devoted fans have to laugh at this, don't they? That they've gone this far and trying to make people believe this shit and they can't even make the house look the same?
Starting point is 01:31:12 See, that's the thing. At least if it was the same house, you could, you could just focus on, okay, they took it really far with this and there's no cops or fire department or anyone. No one's screaming. No one's saying, what's going on? Nothing. This house is in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:31:26 They're in Whartburg, Tennessee. You can look past all of that, but... You know. But so, and the sports-based presentation, bangor after bangor after bangor, oh, and occasionally it burned down somebody's house. You know, now, if they'd have done like they did in the old days, remember when the guys wanted to heat up an angle,
Starting point is 01:31:50 they'd go out and they'd get in a fight in public and get arrested? Now, if he had a burned the house down without permission and somebody called the cops and he'd been arrested for it, it made the news. Now that would have heated the goddamn thing up. See, this never would have worked ever because even though wrestlers hated each other and there were feuds,
Starting point is 01:32:10 as we saw with Eddie Gilbert running over Jerry Lawler, if something like this happened, the police would be like, hey, wait a minute. If this ain't real, you better say it now. Yeah. Because we're getting calls. It burned a fucking house down. Nobody called the police on this, by the way.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Yeah, that's what we're. while Loller killed the Angle, he had to go out and apologize. Not apologize, but just go out and acknowledge that he was still alive and go out and vow revenge on Eddie Gilbert after he'd been run over because people were convinced he'd been murdered and they were calling the cops and wouldn't stop. But, yeah. We'll stop unless you have more to say about Adam Page, the arsonist. What do you think the odds are that next week, old swerve comes back and shoots
Starting point is 01:32:59 hang nails horse? You know, I mean, it's AW, it's Tony Kahn, it's not crazy, the idea that would kill a horse on TV. But I would take the under. You want to be under the horse? No, I'd rather be on top of that horse. In terms of what I could do over at the wonderful Draft Kings app. Sportsbook. Sportsbook app.
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Starting point is 01:34:22 I got a loophole here for you, pal. You want to know what it is? Yeah. I figured this out. if you bet individually how many people's on a football team is it 11 or 12
Starting point is 01:34:38 I don't know you don't know you're a sports fan how do you not know how many people's on a goddamn football team because I don't watch football well you see you're ruining my whole flow here because I thought that you would instantly 11 players
Starting point is 01:34:54 11 see I knew it was either 11 or 12 they didn't want to have the even dozen. Well, if you just bet on each one of those 11 players is going to score a touchdown, well, then one of them's bound to, so you're going to win. See how that works? I got the whole thing covered. Who's the best football player to transition to a wrestler in your eyes ever? Wahoo McDaniel, Ernie Ladd, Bronco Nogersky for his time period, but that's apples and oranges. And then, you know, since you just sprung that on me, several more that I'm probably not thinking about, but it'd be hard to top Wahoo and Ernie, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 01:35:35 And then, well, and the ever popular fucking Otis Sis drunk, that worked out for everybody in Georgia. It's hard to top Wahoo and Ernie because they were actually really good players who ended up being really good wrestlers. Really good wrestlers. There are sometimes, you know, good players who don't become good wrestlers or shitty players that became wrestlers because they had nothing else to do. But back to Draf Kings.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Yes. Well, the odds, as I said, you bet on each one of those son of a bitches and what them's got to score a touchdown. But do you say, now what if they don't score a touchdown? What if the other team scores touchdowns? Then bet on all 11 of them too. And that way, certainly, somebody's going to score it. Well, I guess unless it's a scoreless game.
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Starting point is 01:39:07 plus premium terms at NFL.com slash terms. Holy shit, he's good. Well, they must have sped that up or something. And Oregon and New Hampshire have jumped on the void train also. That's not even in my copy. Well, once again, Jim, never forget, never ever forget.
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Starting point is 01:40:17 For you to win money. The crown is yours. Yes, it's certainly, well, the show is yours. The show is mine, Jim. We're going to get to the ratings in a moment, but on the road there, because it ties to AEW Dynamite, and a lot of the listeners have been sending us in today because it has gone up on Twitter. The Meltzer said what Twitter account? A fight or...
Starting point is 01:40:40 Said what? I shouldn't call it a fight. An argument or a discussion. I'll hear this with you. A spirited debate. Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez about Shida getting a title shot. against Mercedes Monet. However, she's facing Deanna Parazo
Starting point is 01:40:58 the night before on Friday. They had a Deanna Parazo video on dynamite. Yeah, she was sitting there drinking wine issuing a prepared dramatic reading, and it made me want to drink. AEW should have a liquor sponsor. It would make a lot of sense. But let's go to this.
Starting point is 01:41:15 It's broken up into a couple parts, but we could break it up even further as we review it from the milk. They're really this fired up over this fucking insignificant of a topic. This should be rich. Well, let's hear what it is, actually. Let's go to this from Wrestling Observer Radio, Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Then Deanna Parasso did a promo. Karushita is facing Deanna Parasso the night before she gets a championship match on pay for me. Yes. But it's not for the title shot. I know, but it's just weird. It's just a match, just to give her a win. You know, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:48 I mean, that's happened only a billion times in wrestling. It's not anything to get worked up over. I don't think Cody is doing a singles match the night before WrestleMania facing Roman Raines. I'm positive that did not happen. Okay, but guess what? You could probably count the times that the Challenger champion
Starting point is 01:42:06 wrestled a match on Smackdown before a pay-per-view or on a Friday show or on the Go Home Raw when they didn't have Friday or whatever. It happened all the time. This is not unusual whatsoever. I want someone to go back and check this one out. Hundreds of times. Oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 01:42:22 The challenger for the world title the next day, wrestling on Smackdown. On Smackdown on the Friday before the pay-per-view? The day before. The day before. All the time. A singles match to the challenger for the title. All the time. All the time.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Someone's going to find this. I guarantee it. All the time. It happened in WCW before their pay-per-views. All the time. It happened on Mid-South Wrestling. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking of late.
Starting point is 01:42:48 I want to go back to Mid-South Wrestling. I'm talking about the history. I don't want to see the most. The monkeys in 2024. I'm talking about the discreet wrestling. Hey, now they could do a hell of a job. The monkeys could do a hell of a job in 2024. As big as the bucks all the time.
Starting point is 01:43:04 I was just going to say they're, I think now they're just grading on each other because this is not normally something that would have been of the importance that they would bother to natter at each other about. Could it be that their long, happy marriage has been hitting the wrong, rocks and they're just on each other's last nerve? It has seemed obvious to me in the last several things we've reviewed of them that Brian Alvarez, although I'm pretty sure he probably wouldn't agree with a lot of our judgments on the wrestlers he likes or the style of wrestling he likes or whatever it may be.
Starting point is 01:43:40 I think he knows you can't deny the reality of AEW's TV and their booking and the formatting and how nothing ever makes any sense. And Dave, it seems, never gives up on arguing that something... Trying to figure out a way. That's something AEW-related does make sense. And there is some sort of logic behind it. And again, Hikar Rushita has a world title match on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Why does she have a match against someone who's relatively pushed into women's division there the night before? Let's go back to this. Time. I mean, this is not... This has been unusual. I find this very unusual. I have no idea why because the idea of a challenger for a championship winning a match on the last television show before the big championship match is a cornerstone of pro wrestling.
Starting point is 01:44:36 So you're telling me that when they do that Solo Sacoa, Cody Rhodes match. I don't know. Solo's going to wrestle Friday night. He might. He might, he might not. I mean, it's not like it happens every single time. They'll do a contract signing or they'll do a face-to-face. He ain't having a random match. match. That's
Starting point is 01:44:54 WWE this year. If you look at this year, wrestling, this is like a cornerstone. You put the challenger over on television right before the pay-per-view, or before the big show, before the stadium show, before that it happens constantly. Well, let's stop it for a second. There's another little bit here.
Starting point is 01:45:12 What do you think of that idea? Again, we're talking about modern wrestling. We could look at examples and things that happen historically from territories or various other companies, but we have to look at it under the prism of what's happening now, should someone who's going to get a big match on a live national broadcast, like a pay-per-view, should they be in a long competitive match the night before?
Starting point is 01:45:36 Well, there you go, and these two chuckleheads aren't really articulating either of their positions well, and they might find someplace to clawing to each other in the middle because I think it'd be perfectly acceptable if the guy going for a championship, or the girl in this case, going for a championship on the big show this weekend, the night before or the
Starting point is 01:45:58 whatever week before on TV, they beat some job guy, get a decisive win or do an angle as they were talking about or a contract signing or whatever. Having a match shouldn't be ruled out as just a goddamn absolute, but having a competitive
Starting point is 01:46:16 match with another semi-pushed individual, whereas you know in AEW, however much time they're given, it's going to be as competitive as it can possibly be regardless of who's being pushed. That's what's detrimental and shouldn't be going on, in my opinion. But I will leave it there so that we can hear from the experts. Let me just ask you, do you see that as being different? And again, when you were doing WCW pay-per-views, if there was a TV show on TBS that same day it was clearly taped it wasn't a live show into the movie yeah you know and and most people understood but now they did it in the attitude era also and in the monday night wars when everybody
Starting point is 01:46:57 knew that was live but traditionally up until that time the people knew that the shows were taped to begin with so you'd be seeing the wrestler on that show in a positive light that's going to be on the live pay per view tomorrow that's why we got to pay for it because we want to see it live And is the difference between beating a preliminary talent and a preliminary match the day before and having, like you said, a long competitive match? Yeah, that might actually fucking help if they, you know, beat some guy and look like a world beater rather than getting waltzed across Texas by some middle card fucking guy right before you're supposed to look like you're going to be the next world champion.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Well, let's go back to this audio, another little bit here. It's television. That's exactly what you do. every single Smackdown the challenger not one time this year is the challenger for the title wrestled on the Friday before Smackdown. Not one time
Starting point is 01:47:55 this year. I have no idea if that's true or not, but it doesn't matter because it, you know, it's SmackDown in 2024 is not the history of wrestling and it's not the history of wrestling booking and it's not necessarily the greatest booking ever. You know, I mean, it's like I'm talking about something that is a ridiculous. It is.
Starting point is 01:48:10 And my place is a fine point. Let me stop it for a moment. There's more, but it's hard for Dave to articulate this, isn't it? Well, it's hard for Dave to articulate anymore, to be honest with you. Something happened in a short circuit between his tongue and his eye teeth, and now he can't see what he's saying. But they're just picking it nits over each other at this point, because again, who gives a shit about the girls' situation
Starting point is 01:48:38 when the house is on fire, so to speak, over there? so to speak and literally let's go back to this don't care but it's like weird like this supposed to be a big match on Saturday why is she facing Deanna the night before Deanna's supposed to be like a star it's not weird it happens all that that even better that she's a star that makes it even better
Starting point is 01:49:01 it's a bigger win that's exactly what you do I know when I was growing up before the freaking cow palace show on the Saturday's TV the same that afternoon the chat for the 70s Okay, okay, it's not just the 70s. You could do it in every decade.
Starting point is 01:49:19 In the 60s. It is a cornerstone of wrestling that you put the challenger over, the challenger over on television in his run to... Not in his run, the day before. The day up. The day up when you had the same day TV. They did it everywhere all the time. It was a regular occurrence because it's, you know, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:49:41 The Bucks are backstate. And that's on the end of that. And it was ridiculous. Again, we've talked about when the local towns had live studio TV, they'd do an angle on the Chattanooga TV that aired at 5 o'clock live from the studios to juice up the card that night at the Memorial Auditorium that started at 8 o'clock. But again, if a guy's going for the World Heavyweight tightly, wouldn't be having a 20-minute match against somebody else.
Starting point is 01:50:08 They'd be jumping somebody and hit them with a chair. That kind of juicing it up. Oh, poor Dave and Brian. I hate it when, you know, maybe a marriage counselor. See, the problem is Alvarez is looking for logic and Dave's trying to explain away the logic. Alvarez was just saying here, it doesn't make any sense that they'd be doing this. And Dave won't even listen to that. That's kind of what Tony Kahn's like.
Starting point is 01:50:34 He convinces himself of what the answer is. And then we see. And then he'll just kind of, oh, tut, tut. Oh, no, you just don't understand. I study this. All right, well, it ain't the Cow Palace, but Jim, let's talk television ratings. And before we get to Dynamite, we're going to talk about the road to dynamite rather briefly here. A.W. Rampage on Friday, August 30th, 10 to 11 p.m.
Starting point is 01:51:00 That's their normal time slot, I believe. Yes, yes, it is. According to WrestleMania, 218,000 viewers. It is the second lowest overall number in the history of rampage, including preemptions and the second lowest in the key demo in the history of rampage. They followed that up the next night, A.W. Collision on TNT. 8 to 10.03 p.m. Again, I think that's the regular time slot. Yeah, I think that's the regular time slot. 289,000 viewers on average, the lowest overall number in the history of the show, excluding preemptions.
Starting point is 01:51:43 which, you know, again, the way he uses preemption, I'm not sure if it's correct, but that's the road to dynamite. And those are the two shows that they've been moved around a bunch, and they've been booked horribly for a very long time. What do you think of these numbers? There's always competition, is always college football on a Saturday. Well, yeah, they did to college football last year at this time, right? But last year, right up until about this time,
Starting point is 01:52:12 Punk was still on a Saturday night show so they would do 500, 600,000. They did, I believe, 7 or 8 for the debut episode. And if they went against a WWE big show, they were still doing, I think we were laughing when they were doing that and doing 400,000 last fall.
Starting point is 01:52:31 After they lost punk and football was going on, oh, geez, they did 400,000. Or like 380,000 for a WVE show they were on. up against. Now, this is 289, 507,000 viewers for three hours of primetime network cable television on Friday and Saturday nights total. That, when you're coming up on a renewal, how the fuck do they expect these giant raises? You have to ask yourself where the value is. Again, the value with A.A.W. is cheap programming if all of a sudden that cheapness is doubled. It's not as cheap anymore. But those are the collision and rampage or rampage and collision in order
Starting point is 01:53:22 ratings leading into Dynamite. AEW. Dynamite on September 4th, TBS, 8 to 1007 p.m. On average, watched by 660,000 viewers. Oh, the go home show for the pay-per-view. I don't know. know we're running along here because we've got the other commitments, but I will try to keep my comments brief, but oh boy! It is the lowest overall number and key demo number since August 7th and the fourth lowest non-preemption dynamite in Key Demo ever. Well, where did they start and where'd they finish? Jim, quarter one, and these were compiled by Russellnomics, quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m.
Starting point is 01:54:10 The Daniel Garcia, MJF Live angle. The Will Osprey and Conglomeration and Willow Nightingale backstage angle. 810,000 viewers. Oh, good Lord. Okay, this is not gonna... This ain't gonna be pretty, is it? You go to quarter two, 815 to 8.30 p.m. A very pretty match.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Kazushka Okata versus Kyle Thurieff. Fletcher, with picture and picture ads twice, 636,000 viewers. Holy Christ! So wait, I can't do math with numbers that high. 160, 174,000 viewers in 15 minutes? But wait. Quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m. The continuation of O'German.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Okada versus Fletcher and the post match with Takeshita, swore of Strickland and Prince Nana's video. That was where they had the house there. You know what? I didn't see Takeshita either, so I must have left there and the end of that match because I was so bored with it. Well, you were one of the 174,000. Yeah, no kidding. People go to the kitchen and never come back.
Starting point is 01:55:27 An ad break. And Jamie Hater versus Robin Renegade, 614,000 viewers. So that's down 196,000 from where they started 45 minutes ago and by the way I understand why people go to the kitchen and don't come back with all these
Starting point is 01:55:47 home invasions going on swerve and page and everybody just bust into each other's houses. You go to the kitchen, you can get tied to the fucking chair. Based on the key demo number here appears that young people don't even own houses maybe doing something else during this time
Starting point is 01:56:03 because it's well below the trend line here. Quarter four 8.45 to 9 p.m. The Roderick Strong Hook backstage angle, the Moxley and Marina Shafir Jack Perry confrontation, an ad break,
Starting point is 01:56:20 the Moxley Live promo, and the Learning Tree Orange Cassidy angle, 651,000 viewers. Wow, so that actually gained back 37,000 people, which shows you how bad they didn't want to see the shit that came beforehand.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Well, from there, Jim, we got a quarter 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The big 9 o'clock hour. We can't really call it that anymore. They've killed the 9 o'clock hour. Mariah May versus Nila Rose with picture and picture ads. The Deanna Parazo video and an ad break. 643,000 viewers. So they lose 8,000 at the top of the hour. But at least they're not as bad off as they were in quarters two and three.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Well, we go now to quarter, what is it, six? 915 to 9.30 p.m. The Mercedes Monet Hikaru Shita Live promo. Oh, boy. And the Young Buck's Jack Perry backstage promo, followed by an ad break, 597,000 viewers. That is the low for the show, I will tell you that. That is the low in the key demo.
Starting point is 01:57:38 That is the low in the overall number. Mercedes, Monet, and the Young Bucks and Jack Perry. Wow. A lot of high-priced salaries in the lowest segment of the show. Hold on. Let me at 203, 213, 213. So they are 213,000 viewers down from the start of the program, which would be over 25% of the audience that they started with.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Well, we go from there to quarter 7, 930 to 9.30 to 9. 45 p.m. The Claudio Castignoli, Wheeler, Yuda, and PAC match against, I don't know why I said it that way. Claudio Wheeler and Pack versus Kyle O'Reilly, Orange Cassidy, a Will Osprey, two times,
Starting point is 01:58:19 picture and picture. 652,000 viewers. Good. So that is, that's intentional that those people left with that 15 minutes, isn't it? Mercedes Monet, followed by the Bucks, why would you sit there? If you've been watching this show,
Starting point is 01:58:36 why would you want to see more of them? 643 to 597 to 652. That's a statement. We go now to quarter eight. I remind you there's a seven-minute red hot overrun. Burning down the house. 945 to 10 p.m. The continuation of the six-man match
Starting point is 01:58:56 and the post-match with the elite Brian Danielson, PAC, and Will Osprey. 675,000 viewers. I can't believe that gained anything, but... Seven-minute overrun, Adam Page burns down sore Strickland's house. 665,000 viewers. They lost viewers for the home burning. Well, burn, baby burn.
Starting point is 01:59:23 If you're going to burn a house, do you put it in the middle of the show? Do you put it at the front of the show? Where do you format into the show the burning of a house to capitalize on it? I mean, it's... and again the problem is is that you couldn't really tease they figured out a way to do it
Starting point is 01:59:41 with the famous Pilman in Austin and somebody's got a gun and blah blah blah live remote to tease it throughout the show but how do you tease a guy's going to burn another motherfucker's house down through the show to keep
Starting point is 01:59:56 so the people would know is really going to burn the house down or not at the end of the show we'll find out it just came out of god damn nowhere they had announced a contract signing in the ring and we see those you know regularly so what the fuck right missed opportunity to sell tickets for people to see a house burn down i don't think anybody would have bought them what are you going to do you're going to go out there in the middle of night and watch this fucking idiot burn a fucking fake house down or fake burn a hey it was a real house now they fake burned it down. Well, that was AEW Dynamites. They're literally burning the house down now. At what point does Shad say, hey, this metaphor ain't funny?
Starting point is 02:00:47 But that was AEW Dynamite. Well, Jim, like we said, this is going to be a shorter than normal edition, and there's still big things to talk about, and we'll be talking about them on the experience this week, including a lawsuit. The wrestling news broke the news. Kevin Kelly, the boys from Dalton Castle's troop of him and the boys. I don't know what you call them, really.
Starting point is 02:01:08 The boys of Dalton Castle. I don't know what you call them. Like the five fingers of Dr. T. or the hands of Orlack, but go ahead. But they are suing AEW, Ring of Honor, Tony Kahn, and Ian Rickabani for a number of things, including defamation, and you'll hear more about it. The man who is representing them is a man we know well, Jim. Well, yes, and that lawsuit also involves breach of contract wrongful termination and the reason why we want to take our time in discussing this, the potential misclassification of pro wrestlers as independent contractors when they possibly should be employees.
Starting point is 02:01:48 We've broached that subject a time or two before. But the reason why I've been trending and the reason why that this news is out is because this man is the man that is carrying the torch once again for the downtrodden little guy against the big bad billionaire. You know him, I know him, we all know him, we all love him. Play that music. Call Stephen P. New, a show for two. Those are the rest.
Starting point is 02:02:41 And yes, ladies and gentlemen, as we said, we will be going into more detail on the various aspects of this suit on this weekend's experience or this week's experience, wherever you find your favorite experience. but one thing that we do know, and they found out recently out in Calabasasas County, Stephen P. New does not take cases that he doesn't believe that he can emerge victorious from, so things may be coming to light, and we'll try to discuss this in greater detail on the next issue of the experience.
Starting point is 02:03:12 So the next edition or the next broadcast. The next show. In the meantime, if you want to get in on the hottest attorney since Perry Mason, then just go to new law office.com or dial the magic number 87750 Steve and Stephen P. New will be on somebody else's case on behalf of your case. That's right, and by the way, the person who submitted a Stephen P. New song a few weeks ago,
Starting point is 02:03:42 they wrote to me to say that the song was not AI. So we appreciate that. We appreciate creativity, whether it sounds like shit or whether it's really good. Wasn't that the one that we were really pretty easily able to tell that wasn't AI because there was no intelligence involved? Oh, no, there was a lot of intel. Don't insult it. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 02:04:02 But of course, if you're insulted, new lawoffice.com, 888. No, 8750, Steve. So listen to that song again. Well, like we said, a shorter than normal edition is a lot going on, a lot behind the scenes. A lot of omnibuses. Amnibuses. I'm the buy. still to come and we'll be back on the experience before you know it, the pay-per-view, the lawsuit.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Who knows who else will get sued? Any final words, Jim? Yes, I'm going to sue you if you don't close this son of a bitch up. For Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last. Tally-ho!

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