Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 360
Episode Date: September 24, 2024This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite & CM Punk's promo on WWE Raw! Plus Jim talks about AEW's TV deal, Miro asking for his release, Chris Jericho's trademarks, Logan Paul & Ke...vin Nash, Diddy, Vince McMahon, retro figures, ratings and much more! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello again, friends!
And you are our friends, and it's your favorite good cop, bad cop show, or maybe it's
cop and a half, I'm not sure.
Welcome back to another edition of Jim Coronet's Drive-Thru right here on another beautiful day
somewhere, it's beautiful here, it may not be by the time you hear this.
I'm your host, the great Brian last, and we're going to get through this today, folks.
Here he is, the leader of the Cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim Cornett.
My foot may cop a feel up your ass there, pal.
who what is this a party of puffies what's going on over here oh i'm all right now but last week
i's in rough shape you know i tell you hey no you know we're a day a day in some late recording
this folks and i'll take the heat for this because my my birthday week was going well had a wonderful
birthday day got so many well wishes and well tweets from the cult of cornet and
got a nice cake and I even got the cake early as a matter of fact
and got a pop of Murphy's Take and Bake Pizza
my favorite with double sausage, bacon
ground beef, green peppers and onions and
extra cheese. That was wonderful.
Then I pressed my luck, Brian, because
you know, I've never tried one of their calzonees.
So I got to...
Calzone. You don't pronounce the E. Calzone.
Well, you don't pronounce the E.
I pronounce the E.
No, I mean, you're not supposed to.
Not that you do.
You're not supposed to.
Nobody has told me every time I order a calzoni, they just go right ahead and give it to me.
Well, you just said you haven't ordered one in year, so you obviously don't know what's going on.
No, Stacy has them.
Stacey gets them, but I don't get them because I like the pizza.
But see, I was going for a double header this week.
So Tuesday, I was going to have the pizza on my birthday.
And Wednesday, I was going to have the calzone.
but nevertheless whatever you call it I'm not having another one because I woke up
the next morning after that at just violently ill there was something going on with that calzone
it was a calzoni it wasn't a calzone it was a calzoni because there was some amoebas in
there and and it's it's been it's been rough it's been rough for the pie won't go into details for
the sake of the listeners, but I've had a bad 24 hours of some people out, yeah, he's sick,
he's sick, but I'm getting better, baby.
I'm coming back.
I'm going to thwart you people yet that wish my early demise, me, a senior citizen here
in my own home, puking and pooping and sweating about, but I'm back, baby.
It was like a night at vences.
Oh, come on now.
That's what the cleanup was like the next morning.
Boy, they had to get the hazmat suits and everything, didn't they, to go in there.
He's so cleanly.
I don't understand.
He's, he's, but nevertheless, I'm feeling better.
We're going to try to get through this today.
I might not have the normal energy level.
But, and, but I was, speaking of health, something has come across the human affairs desk, Brian.
So I thought I'd bring this up now.
on the first show after we heard about it.
Ken Cantrell.
He's having an affair?
No.
With who?
Human Affairs.
Who is he having an affair with?
Ken Cantrell?
The Human Affairs desk.
With a human.
That's what, like my uncle Dink,
down at W.HOP radio in Hopkinsville,
he used to send the shoutouts
to the sick and a shut-ins.
Well, Ken Cantrell, our old friend in Paintsville, Kentucky,
is feeling puny,
as Christine Jarrett used to say.
and he's going to the doctor and we wanted to wish him good good health get well soon good wishes whatever i'm trying to say
i'm still under the influence uh you know and again one of the early tape traders i mean going all the
way back to the first home vCRs practically massive wrestling collector sponsor of the wrestling events
in Paintsville over the years.
And an accomplishment, he was on the Paintsville
Volunteer Fire Department for years
despite being a convicted arsonist.
How about that?
He's a convicted.
Why would you say this about this, poor man?
He's already having an affair.
Now you're already saying that he started fires.
Him and his mistress starting fires all over the place.
No, Lisa and he have been married for a number of years now.
They're very devoted.
But no, that's what I used to say about him on the promos
when Smoggy Mountain would come to Paintsville, the sponsors were the volunteer fire department.
And I would be running down what a crummy town it was.
And I'd say, even had no good Ken Cantrell on the volunteer fire department, he's a convicted
arsonist.
And people around town would start, hey, Ken, you're an arsonist.
But anyway, I hope he feels better soon because we need.
That's something you want to hear around town?
Well, you know, in a jocular fashion, they were saying those things.
But anyway, feel better, Ken.
Feel better.
You know, years ago in the 90s, when you had no time, I was trying to get my hands on some early
Freebird stuff and I asked you who I should talk to.
And you said, well, I have everything, but I don't have the time.
Ken Cantrell would have it because he was a major Freebirds fan.
And I got in touch with him and he had all the early Georgia stuff.
compilations of it, great stuff.
And a really nice guy, so hopefully he gets better.
Well, he can't get any worse.
Well, feel better. I guess. Feel better.
Yeah, no, he's...
I understand they're going in, they're going to have to do surgery and remove his head out of his
ass, and he'll be fine.
And I hope your wife doesn't find that about the affair.
Or the fire.
Oh, come on now.
The fire and the affair.
That's a good one.
Would it have been better if I'd have said Human Relations Desk?
And also some news from here in Kentucky.
and by the way, what did I say
about that I-75
shooter down there in Laurel County
that was
in the Daniel Boone National Forest
on foot
and they hadn't found him in like 10 or 11 days
or whatever, however long it was.
I said, there is no way
because he abandoned his car apparently
and he may have had guns,
but he abandoned at least the big one he was using.
And one would imagine
at that kind of getaway, he wasn't prepared for
living in the woods, but nevertheless, I said, unless he popped up in the next
couple of days trying to get to fuck out of town, he's up there, he's shot himself,
or he's fallen in a ravine or whatever. And son of a guy, what, what are you laughing?
You said it so much more concisely and completely right. You're like,
oh, he's dead in the woods. You just said it like it was a fact, like you may have done it.
No, I didn't have anything to do it. I wasn't.
even there.
But apparently
some fucking...
Now listen to this. They've had
law enforcement teams,
state police, local
officials. I don't know who all
they got apparently combing
these. God,
I don't know how. You might want to Google
how big the Daniel Boone National
Forest is for fuck's sake. Yeah, 100,000
acres, whatever. And they needed to use
machetes, right, to get in there.
and this couple, I guess, who were live streaming on their fucking cell phone
were wandered around in the woods.
Oh, look, there he is.
But now they did the DNA test and they said it's inconclusive.
You found a fucking guy dead.
He's been dead for a little bit less than the time and they've been looking for this
fucking guy.
In the middle of goddamn Daniel Boone National Forest, nobody else has been reported missing.
How can the DNA be inconclusive?
He had a note on him that said, it's not me.
Well, there you go.
A deathbed denial.
By the way, the Daniel Boone National Forest includes 708,000 acres of federally owned land
within a 2,100,000-acre proclamation boundary.
The name of the forest was changed in 1966 to honor Daniel Boone.
Well, there you go.
So that's a big-ass place to be looking around.
a big-ass place to be out on foot in, if you're not highly prepared.
This guy apparently wasn't Rambo.
Do you remember what the original name was of the forest?
I do not.
The Cumberland National Forest.
Okay, that makes sense because it encompasses the area of the Cumberland Gap,
which, as every small school child knows, is the path that Daniel Boone took to blaze the trail
into old Kentucky.
Well, we've spoken about Ken Cantrell and Kentuck.
Here I've got another
I got another Kentucky
piece of news
Okay
Now that they've calmed the
I-75 shooter down
Did you hear what happened down in Lechard County?
Letcher County
I've never even heard of Letcher County
Letcher County
That's all the way down there
It's either it's I think it's on the border
of Western Virginia
Right there near the corner of West Virginia
But apparently
The Joneses
Judge just got shot by the sheriff inside the courthouse in his own chambers.
Boom. Graveyard dead.
Sheriff being charged with first-degree murder.
They had an argument is the only details they've been able to come up with.
But they did announce there's no threat to the public.
Now that the sheriff is in jail because he's a murderer, I guess.
They didn't finish that sentence.
But can you believe that?
He's going to be waiting for trial for a long.
time they have to find a new judge.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Is this some Hatfield and McCoyshire?
I'm telling it, that's the, down there at Eastern Kentucky.
They're, uh, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're,
they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're
just shoot the civilians.
Not the court staff.
For heaven's sake.
But in, what's going on up here in New Jersey, Brian?
Everything's nice and, uh, and, uh, and normal up here.
You got no sheriff's murder.
people. You've got no highway shooters. You've got no...
There was a big thing this past week because one of the two-lane areas was closed down for
repaving. They repaved all the roads and made everything nice and smooth. But it caused
some traffic for a day or two, so a lot of people were up in arms.
That's terrible. Well, they ought to be up at other people's arms. It would be difficult
to hold yourself up with your arms. I sound like Groucho Marx now. Yeah, my gardener no-showed
for a week because of me. He said, I can't get to your house.
And damn his eyes.
The gardener's next door.
How come he got to that house?
Well, he got in before they stopped everyone.
Well, whatever.
So that's the exciting world in New Jersey, ladies and gentlemen.
They close our fucking bridges here all the time with almost no notice back and forth.
That's a, you're just talking about minor inconveniences.
You know what a minor inconvenience is going to be, Brian?
I know.
I do not know this.
No.
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You were saying that on the last show and you're going to get this to be a thing here where
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There is no reason.
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And do not make me look like a Brett Hart character.
on a chalkboard in the middle of a goddamn wreck center somewhere in Scranton.
He used to be quite profane with some of the cartoons he would do of people.
I still have one that Lawler did at me one time.
We got to send him a couple of these figures to draw him.
Well, that's all right.
He's doing well.
He can buy him at half price.
But Lawler did a caricature of me one time.
we're sitting in a locker room in Evansville,
there's nothing to do. Obviously, there's no internet,
cell phones, all that stuff, and it's Evansville.
Right? He said, hey, let me draw you. He's got a
fucking napkin from the
concession stand. He's got a big ballpoint
pen. He said, let me draw you. He said, hold still for a second.
He did like two minutes. He does this thing
on this napkin. I can't see it, but I'm
sitting there. And he's
okay, I'm finished, because you know what an artist he is.
And he turns around and he's drawn a
perfect caricature of my
hair and head and glasses and nose
and then I have a giant
dick and balls hanging underneath
with a jacket and a shirt
and a tie on the underneath the scrotum
it was so artistic
I framed it and kept it to this day
oh that lawler
well that crazy kid
anyway what do you got going on here
there's not a lot going on they recently repaved the road
and there was a lot of traffic
mention that. I'm talking about on your program we're supposed to be doing here. I'm supposed to be the one that's out of it and have no energy. People were up in arms. That's what I'm talking about. But we have lots of things to talk about today or, you know, on the surface, I would think we do. But we'll see what we're going to talk about. Now, in the midst of your delirium, and I got to hear more than I needed to, I mentioned to you that there was only one thing I thought worthy of your time from Raw.
which I thought would A, get us around reviewing the entirety of Raw,
but B, actually focus on something I thought was a really strong segment.
I built it up pretty big to you.
Let's find out what you think.
Well, yeah, and in a roundabout way,
you're talking about the Raw from Monday night, September 16th,
which opened with...
Like Mussolini!
Oh!
I was afraid I'd poopie.
But no, the opening, let's just stop it now.
The opening segment was our friend CM Punk doing a promo
because this thing with he and Drew McIntyre will never be over.
But first, they did the thing.
And again, they're Artis now.
And I think AEW is trying to copy it slightly
where they have the guys that started the show walking in the building.
It didn't exactly look the same as, like,
like when they do it in the WWE,
but they did the shot where punk pulls into the garage in his car,
and they have a long single camera shot
where he walks all the way through the back,
through Gorilla with a game face on, he's focused,
and straight through Gorilla out onto the stage and through the curtain.
And this time there was, he was slow, he was deluscious,
He was deliberate.
There was no celebration going out there.
It wasn't firing people up.
He gave up the big, and he still had a big entrance,
but he gave up the big, I'm excited entrance for the issue
because he's fucking highly pissed, right?
And he took his time starting because they had the CM punk chance going
and the cheers and blah, blah, blah.
And he kind of said what I said at the beginning of,
the program with you, I thwart all you people who wish my demise.
He says, even if some of you may not like it, depend on how you feel about it, I've got
way more matches in me than some people think.
And there was bigger chance at that.
And he did a serious promo, and the thing is, at least he bothers to try.
This was a promo that could have worked again on territory TV.
40 years ago or whatever
when you didn't
admit or act like
or intimate in any way,
shape, or form that this was not
a legitimate
fucking issue and you hated a guy,
right?
It was refreshing to see
a wrestling promo
on a wrestling show, and yes,
some, probably
the AEW fans,
that small segment of society,
will say,
Oh, everybody knows, and this is a work, and he did do it.
Well, but the thing is, I know it's a work.
Would I go see De Niro in a fucking movie or Pacino,
or any of those other O's?
But I don't expect them to, in the middle of the bank robbery
or the dramatic scene or the goddamn big reveal,
turn and wink at me to let me know that it's a movie.
so he did a promo he went over his history with Drew McIntyre
it should have been over but I'm too stubborn
and Drew McIntyre's mistake is not getting the job done
and then he said you know he said he had more matches in him
but he said how many hell in a cell matches do I have left
honestly zero
and my sister and my wife asked me not to do this
and the people started rumbling because they thought he was going to back out of it
and then he said so please allow me to tell you why I'm going to do this
and got a big pop and got the punk chance
and the only way that this is going to end it's going to be over
is hell in a cell and he can't promise McIntyre that he'll kill him
because I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I'm not going to keep
but he promised him that he's going to make him bleed
and you're going to have to kill me.
And then he finished up with,
I'm prepared for this to be the end of CM Punk.
If you're prepared for this to be the end of Drew McIntyre,
I'll see you in hell.
It was a straight, fucking serious promo
to build interest in what is
pretty much acknowledged to be
their top rivalry of the year.
And even if everybody knows,
well, they're not really fighting or whatever the fuck,
he meant it.
And he was the De Niro or the Pacino
or the Matsumoto or whatever
in the fucking piece.
So I know you liked it, but did you think I would like it
because of what that I just said that I liked it for?
I thought you would like it because of the change of tone
and was a necessary change of tone
because of the pace and the way they've been doing this whole thing
and the injuries and the attacks.
I thought it was one of his strongest promos
since he's returned.
What did you think, I guess it's a minor thing,
but it stood out to me.
The use of the word kill,
that's like one of those words you would never hear
under Vince McMahon.
Yeah, and normally they would even tell you
not to say that in the territories,
because, well, nobody believes we're going to kill anybody,
but here's the thing.
He didn't say he was going to.
He loopholeed it to where it worked.
I can't promise I'm going to kill you
because I don't make promises I'm not sure I can keep
but you're going to have to kill me to beat me
well and that tells me
it sounds like punk thinks he's going to win
but nobody's going to die but the word was there
and it just again
you can be serious on the wrestling program
because you're insulting people's intelligence
in my mind if you go out
on the goddamn wrestling show
and are
unprofessional enough to wink
and nod and giggle
and do the funny stuff
in the middle of what's supposed to be deadly
serious and that's why that the other
jackoffs can't draw any money
because nobody takes anything
seriously except people falling
through furniture, which
gets old and is
miscellaneous people.
We don't...
Wow, who took the best table bump last week in
AEW.
I don't know, there are seven.
But you remember something like this because he was serious and he's a star and it's a big
deal.
So I liked that.
And then Wade Barrett quoted the devil went down to Georgia.
I didn't know.
Well, he's from across the pond, but I guess he's been here a number of years, hadn't he?
I guess so.
I mean, he worked for Florida Championship Wrestling or NXT, whatever it was, and that's in Florida.
So you got to think someone was listening to it.
They're big Charlie Daniels fans down in Florida.
Because every once in a while, when the devil was in Georgia, he'd stop down for a vacation
in Florida, go to Disney World.
Anyway, this is your program.
Well, that was all you watched on Raw.
Yes, it was, and that's why I had a happy birthday.
And again, to summarize, you thought that was a very strong segment.
Yes, I did.
I give that one a 10.
It was easy to dance to it.
It had a good beat.
If you had the place a wager going into it, how good it would be.
Do you think you would have gotten that correct?
Well, I'll tell you what, I don't know
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Possibly, I would assume so, yes.
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I assume so, yeah.
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You can bet on all the things that happen in a football game?
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It wasn't loud enough.
first time. We are in the future.
As if you didn't know.
You think it wasn't loud enough.
Oh, you're still here. Yeah, I decided to come back.
Well, we had to take a brief break for a
telephonic conference in our busy lives.
And now we're back to continue with the program. But the people
have missed absolutely nothing.
I'll say. But we're back, ladies and gentlemen.
It's your show. It's my show. And we have gone off in various
directions. We've talked a lot about Kentucky, and of course, Raw, a little bit about Raw.
But Jim, let's stay on the topic of WWE before we move on. Last week, we reviewed the
debut of Smackdown on the USA Network, not like Fox, not a broadcast channel available
everywhere. USA Network's first WWE Smackdown, what did you think, what did you think the ratings
were? Have you paid attention to what the ratings were, I guess is the question.
No, I haven't heard because you were supposed to send them to me.
And you didn't do it.
And then I poisoned myself, and I've had other things going on or coming up or coming out or whatever.
So I'm going to, like possibly many of the listeners, I'm going to be surprised here to hear what they were.
But it was the debut on USA.
It was heavily promoted.
Cody and Solo, that cage match, the big angle, Roman Raines.
They dropped the cow.
They'd put everything on the line there.
What were the numbers?
Let's go to the numbers.
and they're interesting.
I hadn't really looked at them before,
but WWE Smackdown's USA Network debut,
Friday, September 13th, 20204, 8 to 10 p.m.,
but I think was 10.05 p.m.
On average,
watched by 1,723,000 viewers.
Okay, so that is what they've been doing,
2 million or thereabouts, 2.2 on Fox,
it's network, it's broadcast.
but that is comparable
with the raw numbers of late, is it not?
Or close to?
For comparison's sake, let me pull up the most recent raw numbers I have here.
Jerk them on out.
September 16th, so just a few days after that,
Raw on average was watched by 1,5009,000 viewers.
Oh, so it beat Raw.
And on a Friday night where, you know,
the old folks say that the young folks like to go out on Friday and Saturdays.
And let me just pull up last weeks, and again, these were compiled by WrestleManiaomics.
Last week was September 6th on Fox. It was the final Fox episode.
The average viewership was 1,770,000 viewers.
Oh, okay. So the last time, honestly, we paid close attention to the Smackdown numbers
were closer to after
WrestleMania and King of the Ring and stuff
when they were doing some big shows
so it's settled into the high ones
potentially. Well, it's very interesting. I'm reading the notes
here again. This is the September 6th episode
on Fox. It was the lowest number
and the lowest key demo since December
29, 2023.
WrestleMania noted
AEW collision ran head-to-head
on TNT with an average
of 157,000 viewers.
Oh, Jesus Christ. Smackdown
was number one in the key demo on broadcast
as usual, despite delivering the second least watched episode in its five-year run on Fox,
the only episode lower was the best of that I cited before December 29, 2023.
So that was just that lame duck show and people decided to go to the all-night gas station.
So by and large, they had the same amount of viewership on the USA Network debut than they had,
that they had on the final Fox episode off by what? 50,000 viewers.
Well, that's a pretty seamless transition.
Now, where will it settle in?
Do you think everybody's going to migrate over eventually?
Or was this a, oh, we got to watch the debut, but then, well, we don't want to watch it anymore because it's on a different network?
That doesn't really make sense.
Well, we'll see, because again, Smackdown's always been pretty consistent.
And they're really good at holding their viewership.
But they were also on broadcast TV, and there has to be some kind of drop off if you go from broadcast.
to cable still in 2024.
With that said,
and we'll talk about a few of the quarterly hours here,
looking at the trend line that Russellnomics has,
it is significantly off the overall viewership from Fox,
which, according to this trend line,
was around 2.2 million,
give or take each episode.
But the key demo is not that far off.
And at times the key demo actually is somewhat equal,
to the other one. So we'll see. I guess it all comes back to you have to have a hot show. You have to have a good show and you would think with less commercials like they had on Fox, it gives you more of a chance to have a better show. And that was already a good show for WWE fans.
Well, that's, I couldn't have put it better myself, whatever it was you just said. They opened 8 to 8.15 p.m. quarter one with Triple H's introduction and the Cody Rhodes versus Solo Cicola Cage Match beginning.
1.56 million viewers.
And for the record, 713,000 in the key demos.
So the key demos is as big as AEW's overall viewership.
Oh, good Lord.
But also, so they started with 1.5 with their average of 1.7, they're going up, aren't they?
Quarter two continuation of the cage match, 1.78,8.8.30.
1.75 for more of that match and the angle, in quarter three, they have a women's segment
Meachin versus Piper Niven continues into quarter four, as well as the Kevin Owens and Ricky segment,
that's $1.7 million.
So once they got above that, oh, it's almost like the opposite of the Big Bang theory thing.
They got held down by the first quarter and all of a sudden it popped right after that.
Yeah, people realize, oh shit, we're over on USA this week.
And oh, shit, there's a cage match with Cody and Solo and they picked up more people.
in quarter two, then AEW
loseily uses
usually loses in
quarter two.
And quarter two matches the nine o'clock hour, quarter five,
9 to 9 to 9 15 p.m., which was, again, that Kevin Owens ran the
Orton tag match.
1.78 million drops down to 1.72
for Nia Jackson's segment,
drops all the way down to 1.67 for Andrade
versus Carmelo Hayes.
That's not surprising.
9.45 to 10 p.m., and again, there's a five-minute overrun.
Quarter eight, the postmatch of L.A. Night with Carmelo and Andrade.
Bianca, Jade, Naya, and Tiffany backstage.
Roman Raines' entrance and the start of his live promo.
1.8 million viewers.
Five-minute overrun, Cody Rhodes and the Bloodline come out.
1.8-1 million.
So they came back and finished at the high point for Roman Raines and Cody Rhodes and the bloodline story.
They also peaked with the key demo, quarter seven, again, Carmelo versus Andrade, 687 in the key demo, quarter 8, 783.
791 for the overrun.
So they did not lose audience during this show.
They started at their lowest point and kept building.
It's the way it's supposed to be done.
I always thought that was
I've always heard that's the way it used to be
What's that Carly song?
That's the way I always heard it should be
Not a big Carly Simon fan
I couldn't tell you
Hey, you're the one she was singing about
You're so vain
That was Warren Beatty
Or was it Mick Jagger
Or was it Ryan O'Neill
I'm not sure who it was
You probably think this podcast is about you
No, this is Jim Cornett's drive-thru
Yeah, but you're the host of it
Oh, but you're the star of it
You're the star.
And of course, Earth revolves around a star, as you know.
Well, those were the Smackdown ratings for the debut on USA.
Jim, let me ask you about a real world story before we get to more wrestling.
Yes.
Have you been following the story of Dave Grohl releasing a statement, announcing that he is a new father from someone outside of his marriage, and that he's going to do everything he can to make it up to his family?
Have you been following this at all?
No, I have, what, why would I be, am I a member of the Dave Grohl fan club?
Why would I be following Dave Grohl and his sordid family,
I thought you were a fan of soft white rock stars.
I didn't think you, I thought this was right down your, uh, he's way too new for me.
Way too new.
I know he's done something with somebody somewhere.
Where, what was he famous for?
Nirvana?
Yeah, one of those new bands.
I don't, that's too modern for my taste.
Well, what are your thoughts on...
What, he was in something else, though, wasn't he?
The foo fighters.
Oh, now, I've always been in favor of the fighting of foo.
They are the weakest, softest, most corporate rock garbage band.
But there's too much foo in the world.
If people are going to fight the foo, I'm spitting all over my microphone.
If people are going to fight the foo, I believe we should follow them in their fighting of food.
Well, I have an article here from the New York Post in the Celebrities College.
Why did he feel the need to tell the world that he's fucking around on his wife?
Well, the statement...
Insominating strangers at random.
The statement he released on Instagram stated,
I've recently become the father of a new baby daughter born outside of my marriage.
I plan to be a loving and supportive parent to her.
I love my wife and my children,
and I'm doing everything I can to regain their trust and earn their forgiveness.
We're grateful for your consideration towards,
all the children involved as we move forward.
All the little children of the world.
Well, then why is he embarrassing his wife and children by telling the entire world
that he's been fornicating with some mistress and has procreated some progeny?
Well, that's the thing. What causes someone to go public with a statement like that?
Is he trying to get ahead of something, a lawsuit, a story, whatever?
It sounds like he was trying to get ahead and it went wrong.
I love my wife and children and doing everything I can to regain the
their trust. How about keep it in your pants. Start with that. Now that I do all this stuff,
I need to ask for forgiveness before I do it again. Well, as long as people forgive him,
then that's the most important thing. And by the way, he can also tell people it is,
his wife has pimples on her ass to regain her trust. Apparently, she's spending a lot of time
with her tennis coach now. I guess that's the move. Wait a minute. How old is this,
gruel fellow. Dave gruel. Dave Grohl is 55 years old, his wife 48. Fifty-five fucking years old,
he's having a baby? Well, he's not having a baby. He's caused someone to have a baby,
but Jesus Christ. I'm sure it must have been a Mensa candidate that he was with on the road.
So maybe this will all work out for the best, but there's the real-world news about Dave Grohl.
Well, thank you for bringing that up. I must admit, I've never liked his music. But Jim,
let's go now to the wonderful world of AEW.
Oh boy.
And before we talk about dynamite, I guess we should mention,
and it's kind of weird to even bring it up anymore,
because we've talked about it at length.
And we're in this weird hanging period
where everyone's waiting for what we expect to come.
And you know what they say?
Waiting is the hardest part.
But we've gotten to the point now
where Tony Khan publicly is saying that he has 100% certainty,
that AEW will be with TNT, Warner Brothers Discovery, TBS going forward.
A report came out that a deal is in the works for 170 million-ish per year.
And that number can move.
Well, that number could move, but it would be for AEW programs twice a week on TBS, TNT, and True TV.
Which makes people wonder, are they going to drop one of their low-rated shows?
Are they going to be having replays on true TV?
How exactly will that work?
It appears, as we've said before, a while back that we thought it was coming,
it appears the deal is coming, but no one knows exactly what it is.
So I guess I don't even know what I'm asking you, but...
Well, and also that figure that you gave has been extrapolated by some among them.
Uncle Dave Meltzer has weighed in on this and written a dissertation.
but people are getting that number from what
I was already sick from the food poisoning
and then trying to read Uncle Dave's reporting on this
gave me a headache and made me question my sanity
because it's a word salad
but they're saying it's supposed to be double the current figure
but nobody can establish how they're figuring the current figure.
Can you figure that out?
because are they doubling the original deal or they're doubling a deal that they had or the prior number or before they escalated the contract or when they added the TV show but you can deduct that because that's half a, it's, it's insane.
And so all we know is they're supposedly, and here's another thing.
they don't you don't know whether the paper views are figured in or some kind of streaming
what are they buying are they buying more for from AEW for the larger amount or is it for
the same thing or what's involved nobody knows yeah Tony has 100% certainty but we have zero
percent clarity on any yes and and uncle Dave in long paragraph single space
with a lot of numbers and some various speculation,
did a page and a half on it.
But here's the closing statement
in Uncle Dave's dissertation
on the new AEW TV rights fees
and what it may mean for AEW and this and that.
And he was very, very complimentary
and very glowing through much of it.
But finally, he says,
put succinctly for a promotion to have major
popularity, it's still about making stars and having the exposure where they are seen as stars
for enough people. It always has, and even today, it still does. Yeah. What the fuck? That sounds like
Oscar Gamble. You know, a lot of people don't think it be like it is, but it do.
Examine it. It always has, and even today it still does. What the fuck?
Well, that was
distinct, wasn't it?
It was distinct.
Yeah, that was succinctly put
and the most tortured syntax
of,
but you know,
a lot of people don't think it'd be like it is,
but it do.
Every week Dave's writing turns more and more
in the Captain Beefheart.
I swear to God.
You don't know where to fuck he's going.
It's almost like Lano
writing on the side of the envelope,
crossways,
and around,
around continued on back.
That was one of his mentors.
But to circle back, the idea of the TV deal is coming, like you said,
Tony's a private company.
They are a public company.
So we will find out details.
But no one knows exactly,
no one knows exactly what percentage of AEW Warner Brothers Discovery has an interest in.
No one knows.
Well, and a lot of people don't talk about it very often,
but we established that sometime back from Tony's words,
the things that he had said that they have some interest in the paper views
or had some interest and are,
I guess,
going to continue that in some fashion.
But there's no,
they don't have any voting power in the company because, by God.
Tony Kahn is actually the only one with voting power for A.W.
Well, yeah, because if they opened that son of a bitch up to votes,
it would look like fucking a South American country.
but that's the point is are they Ecuador would be good for one
are they including any kind of rights of the pay-per-view into a streaming thing
where it's guaranteed or blah blah blah or whatever we don't know what they're buying
and what they're paying see Tony has three big things you know if you look take away
his booking and everything if you just look at like a businessman and the assets he
He's got the TV shows and whatever audience they could bring with them.
He's got the pay-per-views and he's got the archive.
So that's why a lot of people have said if this does not come with a max component,
it's not the win it could be because you still need the house all that archival content
and make money off it.
Right now it's not being monetized correctly.
Even their YouTube stuff, if you know a little bit under the hood about YouTube,
I don't think they're correctly doing that.
So, I mean, there's an issue with where and how the archive is monetized and where it'll be.
And then with the pay-per-views too, right now it's on regular pay-per-view, it's on Triller, whatever the hell that is.
It's on The Zone.
It's on BR Live.
If it was just on one streaming service, that would be a major benefit to AEW.
That's what they need.
Also, right now, if you want to see all in 2021, where do you go?
For me, because...
I don't mean just you.
I mean, the royal you.
Well, I don't know where anyone else would go, but for me, because I purchased that one live on BR live,
I could still access it, I believe, through that website for as long as that deal exists between AEW and that.
But I mean, no, what if you didn't see it?
What if you're a new fan and you say, well, I like this horse shit?
and I want to watch all the paper views that they've done before I figured out that this was a thing.
How do you do that?
I don't know if you can.
Again, maybe on one of those sites like Triller or DeZone, they have the archival pay-per-views.
They certainly don't have all the archival TVs.
Because at least you used to be able to buy the DVD and have it on your shelf, no matter how old it was.
And now with the WW Network slash Peacock, you can go there.
AEW stuff just sits somewhere.
See, that's the other thing too.
You know, and again, a lot of it relates to whatever existing deals you have for an
AEW or WW or WW or anyone.
But the idea of just selling direct downloads to replace DVDs, Blu-Rays, VHS,
everything else that came before it, it's not really been exploited enough.
Because people want to keep what they want, even if they'll watch it on a streaming service.
If WrestleMania, if you could buy a high definition, the rights to having a
a license, I guess you should say, to having that digital file, people would pay 60 bucks for that
after the fact, after they already watched it, but they don't really do that. And they should.
I would. Well, then you need to go in there and tell them how to do these things. No, I don't know
if we'd get along. That's true. Some of those people I've heard are quite hard to deal with.
What do you think AEW's TV deal needs to be for it to be a win? Now, again, a lot of people
we're just focusing on if it's $170 million, let's say.
Dave Meltzer's big thing is they are now the second most profitable wrestling company
in history.
I hadn't named that, which is a ridiculous way to look at it considering inflation and
everything else.
Oh, well, but even then, they've spent more money than any wrestling company ever in
the history of ever to this point.
And the spending is going up.
That's the other thing.
As WWE free agents become available, the spending is
going to have to go up. And as Tony wants to retain the talent he has, who want to go to
WWE, he's going to have to double and triple salaries. The spending is only going up.
It's not going down. Well, but also, whose word are we taking that didn't we establish, or
from best guesstimates that have been out there that he's paying $100 million a year just
for talent? And renting NBA-sized arenas and staffing them and doing a full television
production twice a week and who knows what else.
So the point is the incredible amount of money being spent.
Ed Davis is thinking and he's trying to proffer that theory to the world so more people
will think it that, oh, well now, that means this will wipe away all the first five years
of losses.
How the fuck?
How the fuck is even $170 million a year going to wipe out
five years of losses when they've been spending money like this.
How much money have they lost?
How much money did they lose on the video game?
Did we ever get a real number on that?
Because it's a private company.
Did we ever find out how much money they blew on a video game
that everyone who knew anything in advance like us said was going to be a complete bomb,
that it wasn't ready for the market?
And it's a disaster of that game.
We heard they were spending $50 or $60 million and it was on clearance.
I don't think that was a profit
But I'm just saying
I don't
You can't look at this thing
And go what the fuck
How
Even if you're making a profit
As it exists now
How is it fiscally responsible
To run these fucking massive buildings
For 3,000 people
And how is it
In any way fiscally respond
Miro just asked for his release
He moved to Bulgaria last year
and he's been paying him since then?
I meant to ask you about that.
And hold on, let me pull up something here.
But I'm just saying, how many more people
is he just paying that we haven't even thought of in months?
And again, how many is he paying more than current market value?
It will become market value.
Every single one of them.
Well, that's the thing.
It becomes market value as he overpays them.
And that's why people like, oh, why is WWE mad?
They could pay these guys a lot.
They can.
But they all of a sudden have a figure,
whether it's right or wrong,
who is just increasing the salary structure
just because it's play money to him.
That's where, if you're running a real business,
it's like, what the fuck?
What is this guy doing?
We're going to have to redo our P&L.
Jim, I have something here,
and several listeners have sent it over.
This is from Fightful Select.
Fightful Select, Sean Ross Sapp,
has learned that Miro,
formerly Rusev,
has asked for his release from All Elite Wrestling.
Formerly wrestler.
Mero hasn't wrestled for AEW at all in 2024,
last winning a match at AEW World's End in 2023.
We're told that Mero was sidelined longer than AEW expected after that match.
That's when he went to Bulgaria, isn't it?
Yeah.
But has been healthy for quite some time.
There was some consideration internally to use him in the AEW all-in casino gauntlet,
and he had pitched working with John Moxley earlier this year.
Oh, could you.
I'd like to see that.
Let's see Moxley acting a tough guy in there with Miro.
Yeah, you know, that would be interesting now that I'm thinking about it.
Mero and AEW were unable to get on the same page creatively,
something that became somewhat common for the two sides over recent years.
Mero worked only seven matches for AEW in 2023,
and has only wrestled 11 matches since December 2021.
Jesus Christ.
He said his hero is Carl Pavano.
You won't get that, but other people will.
I don't.
We've not learned if Mero was granted his release or if there's interest from W.E.
Mero is earning into the seven figures.
Jesus Christ.
Mero had signed a contract upon joining A.E.W. in September 2020
that was set to expire in spring 2022.
However, he signed a four-year extension around that time.
That could still have him with AEW until spring
2026.
So there's a pretty thorough report from Fightful Select and Sean Ross Sapp.
What do you think of the Miro situation?
And first of all, if that's in any way, three, seven figures for this fucking clown
that they brought in in a pink mini-mouse shirt.
It's Gucci! It's Gucci!
He almost had something going when he lost Pip Sabian and the whole thing,
and then he was gone
and then he's back
the inexplicable
real life marital turmoil
that was playing out on our screen
with him and Lana
what was it?
Tim Ross said in four rooms
whatever kind of psychosexual game
you people are playing.
CJ.
And then he's wrestled 11 times
in two years making seven favorites.
I can't believe.
Yes, I can.
but one thing of the other of these two has not happened.
If anybody had any sense,
if Miro was getting paid a million dollars a year,
you know, maybe I ought to accept some of these creative pitches
since I'm making a million dollars a year,
or actually, no, he could just go to live in Bulgaria
and make a million dollars a year to sit on his big fat ass.
But if I was Tony Kahn paying this son of a bitch a million dollars a year,
don't care whether you like my creative.
Go out there and put the mascot over.
I like pockets.
Or I won't send you your check and you can have your release.
What the fuck?
See, that's the thing.
Tony Khan being a horrible booker has to kind of be taken out of the picture.
And again, if you're going to bring Miro back just to throw him in a casino
gauntlet match, how do you guys get wasted in their return, like something like that?
But if he's turning down everything for years and now they're saying that,
what was the what was the quote here he has been healthy for quite some time so he's is that mentally or
physically there's something going on here and again it comes back to unless he contractually has
creative control why isn't tony con putting his foot down when has tony con ever put his foot down
yeah i mean again a million dollars ain't going to cause him to do it
and the other thing is well let me ask you from whatever you're going to say say but also from the
WWE end, if you look at all the drama with Miro and AEW and you realize it probably isn't
100% Tony Khan, do you have second thoughts about bringing him back to WWE?
Why would they want him?
At this point, everybody they've got's over.
He lives in Bulgaria.
He's been a problem child at the other company, unless he's got some close friends there.
He can plead his case of complete innocence.
and he doesn't sound he hasn't acted like a stable type of individual himself.
Remember when he was going to come all over me on Twitter like God's wrath?
He was going to come to your house and come all over you.
Yes, like God's wrath.
I didn't know God even engaged in that type of activity.
That's a good tag team name.
God's wrath.
Yeah, that's good.
It could have been him and Pip.
Oh, me and CJ.
Well, somebody got some wrath out of that, but I don't...
What was her deal with AEW?
How much money was she getting paid by AEW?
To do what?
Nobody ever figured it out.
Exactly.
What was that whole thing?
That's whatever...
How many of these people are still being paid that we have not seen
that may not even live upon these shores anymore?
And, you know, the other problem is this impassing the creative.
Tony has bad ideas.
Every idea from Miro is how to break up his marriage on live TV.
What's he going to do now that that's out the picture?
Yeah, this was not a situation where Jack Pfeffer was facing down Eddie Graham.
This was, oh, we've equally got some stupid fucking ideas.
We just, we want our stupid instead of the other guy's stupid.
Well, we will keep on top of the stupid news with Mero, but Jim, why don't we talk about
AEW Dynamite, which took place a few days ago?
What was it?
September...
18th.
September 18th, the day after your birthday.
You know what? You know what?
What?
I'm just thinking, I watched this show at the same time I was eating the garlic and chicken calzoni that poisoned me.
And maybe it was this show rather than the calzoni.
I hadn't even thought about that.
It was the exact same time.
And I haven't been the same since.
Wow.
They should have subtitled this program.
Is this a fucking real?
Well, the answer is no.
They're very serious about what they're doing.
The opening match on this program from Wednesday night, September 18th,
and I forgot to even write down where they were.
And I don't know if anybody knew where they were, because nobody showed up.
But the opening match was Pockets, the company mascot,
with poor Kyle O'Reilly and Mark Briscoe providing the Larry and Curley parts to this
fucking Moe
against Chris Jericho
with his two stooges in the corner
and this thing
took up pretty much the first
25 minutes of the television program
and yes I know
Jericho is a shell of himself
and he's in his mid-50s and the gimmick is rotten
but he's still a name
he's still a recognized star
he still might be
of some
benefit to them
in some way and he went 25 minutes
with the comedy mascot and lost
in Wilkes Bear, Pennsylvania
Wilkes Barry
boy howdy
Estimated attendance 2,896 tickets distributed
Well that's
tickets given out not everybody but they didn't have
2865 guns in town
to force people to come at gunpoint
Anyway any thoughts on that thing before we move along
You know, it's been in a few weeks now where for no good reason they returned to this Pock's, Chris Jericho few.
They had the really embarrassing angle with Jericho's car.
That'll probably be on the worst of AEW, volume 3 on the bus, now that we think about it.
Yeah, this was a big grudge match from them totally scuffing the upholstery on that fancy sports car of Jericho's with a handful of quarters last week.
This match is a great example of the problems with AEW.
Orange Cassidy, you know, it's been five years.
I don't think anyone gives a shit anymore.
And it's something that hurts AEW more than they're willing to recognize.
Again, the diminishing crowds that go to the live shows,
he still gets a pop from a smaller and smaller audience
because he'll never be part of a winning team that bring people back in.
And Jericho's the opposite.
Orange Cassidy's been doing the same thing for five years.
Jericho, in the midst of the endless midlife crisis that is Chris Jericho,
has an awful gimmick that AEW fans don't like.
It's not heat when people leave to go to the bathroom and the concession stands when you're on.
That's not heat.
That's the opposite of heat.
That's we don't give a fuck.
And both these guys, the best thing for AEW with them both being far away from this TV and far away from Tony Khan for a while.
Because some of the people Tony Wien's on are just the wrong people.
Jericho's not even halfway through that 10-year contract we heard he signed till he's
62. So he's got to come up with some ideas on how to put
the guy over that Tony dressed as for Halloween to make the guy
happy, they'll keep paying him. So then
there was a lot of
the plumber and Claudio and Pack and their thing. They did a
promo in the back with the ominous music
where they talked in circles and they're trying to get
old Wheeler useless to defend
the six-man tag team belts next week,
even though he didn't agree with them for beating up Brian Danielson
for whatever fucking reason.
And that was an ongoing thing that we'll come back to.
Did you enjoy the match between Hook and Tits McGee?
No, not really.
He came out, he suplexed a guy twice or three times and choked him out.
I'm kind of bored.
board may not be the right word. I'm kind of overhook until they do something good with them.
Well, it's disappointing now because it never went anywhere and he's been made to look stupid and his weaknesses have been exploited rather than his strengths being exploited.
Imagine if he had Paul Heyman like Taz did.
Oh boy. You know what I mean? Like he would have found a way to not, we've seen, like you said, we've seen every weakness on the mic in the ring. And of course, with the overall booking, the whole.
whole point of someone like that is to hide all that forever.
And AW, to me, I'm kind of overhook right now.
Well, maybe when he becomes a captain,
see now, if Jim Hurd was around, he'd put a pirate hat on that motherfucker,
have him chop his left arm off and put a fucking hook on it.
You'd have a goddamn movie tie-in.
He can make Tony Chivani Smee.
Well, speaking of Smee, did you Smee?
Did you Smee the interview with Private Party?
I did.
This was the best interview I've ever seen them do ever.
And for a moment, I said to myself, you know what?
If they're going to use this Moxley thing to give Private Party a harder edge and make them more serious and believable,
I couldn't believe how much I liked Isaiah Cassidy on the mic here.
I thought this was great.
And I want to congratulate you.
the meth growers of America for god damn it was like a federal express commercial all of a sudden
blah-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-um like what the fuck happened here apparently they knew they had to get it in
before they got the shit kicked out of them later on well that's the problem with it it was a good
promo if you were going to set them up to be a little different instead i mean we'll talk about
when we talk about it but when you punch sean moxley and he doesn't even sell it
Like it right away as soon as I saw that I'm like oh these guys had a chance with that promo
To be a little different and now they're just back to being Flippy Jobbers
Every baby face in this company starts a fucking fight and promptly gets his ass handed to it
You know again you look at AEW five years of dynamite the very beginning you looked at
Mark Quinn and you said if this guy had training if this guy was produced this guy could be
I don't know if you said top star
I won't go that far but this guy could be a star
he could be money for you
he could be money for you that was five years ago
they're exactly where they were
five years ago if not
worse off because five years ago we hadn't seen
them get their ass kicked
all the time or be jobbers
or be aligned with the hearties
or just nonstop bad booking
they were they were suckered by several
crooked managers weren't they
they were and again
where five years later you looked at Mark Quinn
and you saw the talent there, when was the last time you remember
even seeing them in the ring, do anything?
So they're doing something really wrong with that.
Well, speaking of really wrong,
Renee Moxley Good was with Christian Cage and his company
and they, even Christians' promos now are just kind of,
well, it's the same thing he's been doing, he's very well spoken,
but we're not covering any new ground here.
But then Pip Sabian came in the room.
off camera and Christian Cage tells him off.
And he said, I don't care whether your dad's dead.
Well, he was trying to talk to Nick Wayne, right?
Well, I don't know what the fuck he's doing.
Did Pip Sabian and Nick Wayne used to have a relationship?
Were they dating on Saturday nights?
What was going on there?
I don't know what's going on with them, but I think that's what it is.
He's trying to talk to Nick Wayne and that's what causing Christian to, you know,
at this point, why could you even be bothered?
Every promo he does it, no matter who he's feuding with,
Your wife is dead.
Your dad's dead.
Your mom's dead.
What the fuck?
Your company's dead.
Your fucking promos are dead.
Your gimmick is dead.
No one cares about this.
It's dead.
How did you like the tag team match with Serena and Maria against Queen Waiyata and Yuka Sakazaki?
Queen Amanata, who's a very attractive woman, and Yuka, who the fans there seem to know and seemed to react to, I, uh, you know, I needed a break.
after that long private party promo
and Christian promo
I needed a little bit of a break
so I actually did not watch this match
I must admit I'm not really into the AW women's division
Well and then we got it
Did you see the Nigel McGinnis package
Where they actually finally told us
That he used to be a professional wrestler
We just talked about that in the review last week
And we said this was the big thing missing
They're assuming that fans know
anything about Nigel
When the only thing he's ever done on mainstream TV
was as Desmond Wolf or being a commentator,
maybe it's a little too late considering the events next week.
But at least they tried.
But at least they tried and I thought it was a really good video.
I think they did a good job with it.
And also when they actually, Nigel said,
you know, a lot of people don't even know I was a wrestler.
Bleach your hair again.
You look cool back then.
You know, there is something to be said for that.
Because you see a bleached blonde guy in this day and age,
you know he's a wrestler.
but anyway, folks, we were at 9 o'clock
in this two-hour program with what we have just described to you.
This is what they were airing while in the middle of a rights renewal
rambunctiousness.
So at 9 o'clock, here came
Moxley the Plummer, Claudio, and Marina Schaefer
walking through that big, empty arena to the ring,
They actually, one of the handheld shots
kind of strayed too far over to the left for a minute
with one of those spotlights playing around
and you could see one side of the building was completely empty.
Well, if you notice, they came out from the empty side
so that when the camera shows them coming out,
you would only see the fans behind them where the fans are situated.
Yes, it's a piece of a very tough balancing act
you've got to do there between trying to get a shot
and showing that,
There ain't nobody there.
But then as soon as they walk to the ring,
here comes Private Party, your favorite tag team, Brian.
And they jumped Moxley.
And he completely no-sold it and just they proceeded to beat the fuck out of private party.
They couldn't even whip the girl.
He no-sold it to an insulting degree if I was one of those guys.
To be very honest with you.
Unprofessionally, to be honest.
There's no selling.
And then there's...
acting like the punch didn't happen,
smirking and continuing to walk.
That was ridiculous.
That was egregious.
If I was one of those guys,
they'd be a problem.
And considering that Moxley is
O for life against fucking
Home Depot stockbrookers
and fucking Croger employees
and these amateur jiu-jitsu tournaments,
I have a feeling private party could probably handle him.
See, some baby face has to use that.
John Moxley, I challenge you to a grappling match.
I've seen the videos.
you can't beat anybody.
Come on, get in here and let's grapple.
Oh, well, and it went forever.
They just beat them up and beat them up
and the girls beating them up.
And then Commander ran out to help
and they beat him up.
And then the girl beat up Alex.
Poor Alex, what did he do?
And then Moxley gets a toolbox
and gets a hammer and a microphone
and which one did they have
of the private party members
held down there.
Was it Quinn or was it Cassidy?
I don't even remember.
Well, whatever they hold the baby face immobile
and he's struggling to get away.
Like, oh, let me lose, let me lose.
And he belittles him to his face
and said, I'm going to give you a gift
and then hit his hand with the hammer.
And then here came off.
I think that was Cassidy. I think that was Isaiah Cassidy
because that was the one who cut the really good promo, I thought.
Well, that'll teach him.
And then here comes Darby
to make the big save and tackles Moxley
and they roll in the ring
and Darby's still carrying his skateboard
but he's not doing anything with it.
Claudio doesn't get in the ring to help.
Schaefer doesn't get in the ring to help.
It's Moxley and Darby in the ring
yelling at each other
and in staring at each other
and then Moxley bailed out and Darby yelled at him some more.
And thanks for coming Private Party.
Your thoughts.
Again, you know, I will go back to Private Party
because I was so happy they did a good promo
and then it was completely thrown away
by the no-selling of them.
And then, of course, they just, for no good reason,
they got his hand.
Moxley's watching too many movies.
See, that's the problem.
Because AEW has this not even part-time schedule,
he has a lot of time to sit there
and catch up on cinema.
And he's watching all the things that he hears about.
And he just wants to take things from movies and bring them into AEW,
whether it's line for line dialogue or whether it's some of these things.
This stuff is terrible.
Every John Moxley thing in AEW has been some version of,
I'm a complete badass, I'm going to sell nothing, and then just keep doing this.
It was him as a solo.
It was him with the BCC.
And now it's him with whatever this is.
Is this still the BCC?
see? I don't know what the fuck it is. Yeah, so.
They lost, they lost Wheeler. A wheel came off.
Who do you put over, who do you put over in the match next week? Darby versus Moxley,
winner getting a title shot. Well, it's got to be Moxley? It has to be Moxley, doesn't it?
Because didn't he just put a plastic bag over the goddamn champion's fucking head?
So how is Darby going to get a title match against Danielson when my, the, you'd add
remember, I swear to God, when I was watching none of this, 10 years ago or whatever it was,
remember when Moxley was together in the WWE with Rollins and Roman Raines?
The Shield, yes.
And Uncle Dave was saying, oh, but the star of this group is Moxley.
And I was like, boy, that guy must be pretty good, because I know how good Tyler Black was.
The star of the group is the guy who has the best relationship with my website.
That's what it is.
Well, there you go.
Now we have found out that what the fuck?
So one is the co-biggest star in the business right now, Roman and Cody.
One is in the upper echelons of stars in the business.
And one is this fucking drunken bum staggering around losing his hair in front of our eyes on TV every Wednesday night, making no sense and stinking to join out.
Uncle Dave can pick them
What about the newest
multi-million dollar acquisition
in the AEW
basket of puppies and kittens
Rick-a-Chay
did you see the ricochet match?
Oh boy, did I? Against
maybe someone getting equally as going to push
right now.
The Beast Mortos.
Rigger Mortis. Gold Rigger Mortis.
There's something so low rent about him
that I like.
It just looks.
It looks like a generic luchador on like a garage show.
What are those chains?
The chains on his bull mask,
there are chains hanging down on either side of the cheeks.
How can you punch this guy without breaking your hand?
See, he's smart.
Oh, anyway, this, I got a little bit of it and I had to get,
I had to get some relief.
I had to fast forward through it because it,
I mean, it's sloppy, nonsensical, aggressive parkour
because you've got, you got what you got here.
But it took their new big star ricochet, who is,
what did you say?
A couple weeks ago, how long's it going to take him to be one of the boys?
I said about three or four weeks.
Yeah, it took maybe, here you go.
Maybe quicker than that, yeah.
We've never seen this fucking mantar until,
two weeks ago and it took their new big signing 15 minutes to beat this guy and he did it
with a head kick to a stationary target that didn't come close
and then a reverse DDT slam thing
not even a flying dingbat off the top rope
what the fuck was this there was a spot that people started setting around of
ricochet going for a kick or a stomp of some sort and completely missing
Yes, that was the, there's the bull, the bull of the woods, baby, is on his knees with his head bent over and
Ricochet jumps up and is going to do a big flying stomp and came down like six inches in front of the guy's head and stomped the mat and the guy collapsed.
And it 15 minutes again of this.
You know what else doesn't help Rickashay, his promos?
because I said the thing with him and Osprey, the more he talks,
I think the less people were going to want to hear him talk ever again.
I swear to God, let me, we'll skip ahead because there's something else in between,
but then the next time we saw RICOchet after the Battle of the Whiff kick,
he and Osprey were in the back challenging each other.
They're both baby faces, by the way.
Osprey is very popular and Rickashay was presented in a way as to he should be
popular, but now they're mad at each other.
And they're going to fight
on October 2nd for the international
title. Boy, whoopee, can't wait.
And here's what I wrote. The longer
Ricochet talks, the worse it is.
Yeah, it's the truth.
Osprey, you can't even understand what he's saying, but at least he holds
you. Yeah, you're trying to figure it out.
But with Rickettsay, you hear it and you...
You're not really stirred by it.
Yeah, you're like, I hate this guy. I don't want to hear this guy talk anymore.
He's making me not like him at all.
Very off-putting.
Well, you know, Jim, maybe ricochet, maybe the problem is.
What is his problem?
Maybe he missed that stomp.
Maybe he's talking in a boring manner in a voice that no one wants to hear.
Maybe because he didn't get a good night's sleep.
Well, you know, that is the thing.
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creative team of Dynamite. No, they're on the hard stuff. They're on the stuff that
they're using the clinical surveys on.
I think as a matter of fact, they get some of this stuff from a lab in Wuhan.
Really? That the, that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
train trust over at AEW is taken
because next up
they thought it was a good idea on this rotten television
program to have
Tony Chivani interview
in the ring hang nail
Adam Page
and I have decided that Adam Page
is to wrestling promos
what Helen Keller was to opera singing
oh
he is just
what the he comes
again another pretend want to be
badass he can't carry
off he's not Magnum T.A.
He looks like he ought to be riding a big
wheel instead of a fucking Harley.
He is not a
cowboy.
He may be a cowgirl.
But so, after
Tony Chavani mangled
the introduction to this,
trying to ask
Paige why he said he would be
after anyone who supported swerve,
but it took him about 45 seconds to say
that, you're going to
you're going to be mad at anyone behind him there.
Then Paige starts talking and doing his new bit now,
since he's changed personalities.
Well, he hadn't changed personalities.
He didn't have one to begin with.
Now he's got a fake one.
Do you know Tony Shimani just stands there
and doesn't even look at the,
he's just holding the microphone,
like he's staring off into space somewhere.
Is that supposed to convey his indignant look
or what is, if a guy interviewing me was ignoring me like that,
I'd get mad at him, threaten him too, wouldn't you?
I mean, I don't know how many times I can go over at Chivani's awful at his job.
He's terrible on commentary, and even the things where he holds the microphone,
either hands the microphone or walks away, or he just says dumb things.
And some people there like him because he's the friendly old man version of Chivani.
I've always gotten along with Tony.
I always like Tony myself.
But if he...
Terrible.
He's terrible.
And I know it...
I mean, I don't know what a good announcer could do with this rotten program.
But he's got to try, doesn't he?
Something?
When was the last time Tony Chivani tried?
That was the whole problem with him in WCW.
He was just this empty shell, seemingly breathing and blinking,
but spitting out just nonsense all the time.
And he does it here.
Everything's the greatest.
The fans are on.
up. Good call. He says nothing. He's there because he's Tony E. Con Stoge, which is the role he's sought out
since the beginning of AEW. Well, and there was so much competition for that one, too. I'm surprised
he was able to play Sehally. But anyway, Page then threatens Tony. He's going to beat Tony up, because
Tony said good things about swerve. And then Jeff Jarrett came out to save the day. And Paige beat the
shit out of him all around ringside.
And in when security ran out, Jeff
was trying to fight back and Paige fucking left.
And then Jeff said, well, I'm not going to let Paige touch Tony.
No, you didn't.
You let him beat the shit out of you.
Yeah, you idiot.
What sense did that make?
And I mean, at least Jeff was trying
to show a little
fire at the end there when
the security came in and everything.
But God, almighty,
baby face.
It just...
Where's the giant?
Where's Sanjay?
Where's his whole little click
of people don't do anything?
Why are they beating them up too?
Well, they ran out there
to help pull him apart
after he got his ass handed to him.
I put money on Karen Jared
against Adam Page.
Why isn't she going after him?
You know what?
I'll goddamn guarantee.
I've seen her in action.
Oh, really?
Oh, quit now.
At one of those freakoffs
that you guys have?
No, come on.
I've been hearing about this.
It's in the news.
She'll really.
your bell.
Oh.
Karen could...
How much does that cost?
Stop talking like that.
Filthy-minded individual.
I'm saying
Karen Jarrett could kick
the shit out of hang-nail page.
I'm convinced of it.
You know what problem too
with Hangman Page is?
He may have been a sap,
but he was so nice as a drunk.
He was just such a nice, happy drunk
all things considered seeing how he turned out.
Well, see,
He needs to drink again.
Yeah, you gotta get back on the booze.
That's the thing.
They're wanting us to say this guy is now,
or wanting us to think or believe,
that this guy is now some badass homicidal maniac
burns, houses down,
and exacts retribution on people
when he was a morose,
simpering drunk hanging out with fucking comedy job guys
for two years in his life.
And then they realized,
maybe about a one year and 11 and a half months too late that they'd made a mistake and then
it's too late.
Based on the way Jeff Jarrett's been used, especially over the last six months or so,
considering everything to happen when Adam Page and Swerve, is this an acceptable side thing
until Swerve comes back?
Well, they've done a couple of things here lately with Jeff that made the people like him.
he's been doing the heel thing
and the people didn't want to like Jeff
because he's too old school wrestling
for that crowd or whatever
so it didn't
and it was Sanjay and the comedy stuff
and the goofy pinhead giant
and that was Gaga
but Jeff can talk
and Jeff can still work
and when they had him do that interview
with Danielson and start to
try to give him the pep talk
or whatever people started
liking it.
And you could have made Jeff Jarrett into a personality that while his best days in the
ring may be behind him, he could be a mentor, motivator, or coach to some needy up and
and I'm not talking about some fucking job guy off the bottom of the barrel.
I'm talking about coming in with Danielson needs a help in hand or coming in with
another top baby face needs words of encourage.
and they get close and then
you beat up Jeff
to get heat on the match
with the top baby face that he's
goddamn mentoring and the guy that beat him up
and you can even have the match first because Jeff
can work and he can get all these
green fuckers through the shit
that word would make sense
but then they blew that
within weeks to where now
he does a promo every now
and if people like it and he gets beat up.
The fuck.
You've got to establish
some
relationship,
some importance
for somebody to have Jeff
giving them this talking to and on their side.
And then Jeff has to show that he's still
capable of standing up for himself
and maybe beat a few
fucking miscellaneous people.
And then the other guy
he has the match and he gets a
kicked out of him in the end and the angle is done and the other guy,
I don't know what the fuck I'm even going through this for.
All right, well, we're going to continue going through
whatever the fuck it is we're talking about here, but that was the Adam Page, Tony
Chivani, Jeff Jarrett segment. Yes. Go out of your way, not to see that, but what
else was on this show, Jim? The main event, the six-man tag team match
explained this one to me, Lucy. Osprey and Feltcher and Take a shit.
with Don Fallas against the heartily boys and O'Cody.
Okay.
They're all heels, except for Osprey,
who's supposed to be a baby face after he asked out of the heel manager's stable.
But the heel manager and his friend Felcher asked him to come back for this six-man tag team match.
and they're all heels.
Who would give a shit about this?
It makes no sense.
What is Don Fowles' purpose there now?
Who is trying to get the heat here?
The one team is the EVPs that have been running rampant.
They're not really running rampant anymore,
but nothing was ever done to make them stop running rampant.
and they piledrove the owner of the company.
It's never been mentioned again,
except it was just for the NFL documentary, right?
Right, and that was a big thing this week
where NFL released the,
a day with Tony Con thing,
where he had the neck brace on.
Yes.
And his idea of selling the angle was being able to do
everything he would normally do,
just wearing a neck brace.
Yes.
And other people from other,
teams were saying what's going on with that neck brace.
They were making fun of him.
They were mocking him as, uh, as you would expect.
And he could hear them and he said, he even said in one of the clips,
well, see if you like it.
If you get piled ribbon, what the fuck is about you?
And it seems like now, looking back, that he only did that for this documentary because
it did nothing to help the business, nothing to build in the future weeks of television.
It was a useless, what should have been a major angle.
When was the last time it was mentioned on TV?
I don't recall.
Yeah.
I don't recall.
But the other thing in that NFL documentary, apparently they show Tony Shivani,
Tony Kahn, Tony Shavani's avatar, they showed Tony Kahn five years ago, like on an NFL field with his dad.
He looked normal, didn't he?
It was like another person.
It was like another, not to say that if you would have sat down with him, he wouldn't have just spit out a bunch of shit like he does with everyone else.
I can vouch for phone calls.
But he, it's like night and day.
what the wrestling business has done to him.
It's night and day.
Night and day.
So anyway, you had two six-man heel teams going at each other.
Why anybody would give a shit, I have no idea,
except for the people who wanted to see a bunch of video game moves,
because that's what this was,
nearly a half an hour with the overrun of indie-rific bullshit.
They have their own referee, the corpse ref, ref,
Rick Knox, so they can do whatever, the flipping and flopping, the same old shit.
I don't know there was a tag in the last five minutes of this match at least.
It's just people running at each other and doing things, and most of them look like children.
Tag a shit's got a ton of potential or did have.
He's been wasted.
They didn't do anything with him when they had the opportunity.
then they bring in
other Japanese wrestlers
that are much worse than he is
and pay him a lot more.
Feltcher,
good young athlete
with some kind of focus on something,
you could do something with him.
Osprey, we've said, needs to be produced,
or he'll just be a video game,
but the people like him,
and you could work with him.
And, of course, we know the Harley boys
are a total loss.
And, oh, Cody,
how long is it going to be?
Brian, before people quit pretending that this guy can move or can bump or can he can't move.
He doesn't bump.
His strikes barely connect.
He moves like a hippo with a hernia.
And he's trying as hard as possible not to get hurt or break a sweat.
He moves like he's in quicksand.
Can you argue with anything I just said?
I've always liked Okada in New Japan when I watched his big matches,
but I cannot argue that he has been a non-entity in AEW,
and despite the push and the belt and the alignment with the bucks,
he's been a non-entity, and in the ring he has been disappointing,
at least to me and seemingly to a lot of other people.
And the other part of the problem is, on one side,
you kind of have, in a perfect world, a little shot of the future.
Osprey, Fletcher, and again, I think the more you see of them,
at least for me,
yeah, he does a lot of the stupid stuff everyone does
because those are all the people he's around
and he has no one producing him.
Who's given him ideas?
Don Callis?
But he's got size and he's getting bigger.
He's still a young guy.
Yeah.
Takesha I've always been high on.
And you have, too, when you watch him.
He's been non-entity because he hasn't been around.
But they're against the Bucks in Okada.
The Bucks are dead.
I mean, they are frighteningly dead.
When you really think about the buzz
they once had around them,
it's amazing to see how little anyone cares about them
and how little the AEW fans care about them.
And Okada?
But it's one thing.
Once you've seen what you see, it ain't going to change.
And if you saw it in 2015, it's the same thing it is now.
It's just they're older and less interesting.
There's no potential anymore.
It used to be, oh, man, they can go to WWE or they could go to Ring of Honor
or they could do this.
They can start their own company.
we're five years later.
There's nothing left.
Barely any hair left, but there's nothing left.
And Okada, you know, at least he shows up for work.
I'll give him that.
There's a lot of millionaires in AW don't go to work.
At least he shows up.
But I tuned out of this match.
And this isn't something I would have done a few years ago, even with the Buck's
inclusion.
But I didn't give a shit.
And we know that they're building towards the story with the Calus family.
and Osprey.
It was all about the story, not about the match,
but AW focuses on the match, not the story.
And again,
if we knew whose side
we were supposed to be on,
this would be a lot easier.
You know whose side you're supposed to be on,
the one baby face on one of the six-man tag teams of heels.
Oh, Christ.
So one wrestler in two tag teams.
Then if he gets screwed over when he's teaming up
with people are going to screw him over,
then doesn't he deserve to get screwed over?
Because, you know, what do you think?
Of course, I bitch you, I'm a snake.
I just want to know if anyone has the guts.
If anyone has said to Tony Kahn's face,
you cannot book television.
Even if you want to be the matchmaker for the pay-per-views,
let someone else who's not one of the wrestlers
put together the television show.
The TV never does them any favors.
And that's the whole job of the TV.
I bet you that probably the only person ever told him
to his face that he was a rotten booker
is currently one of the
biggest stars in the WWE.
Which one?
Well, and that doesn't
even narrow it down. Either punk or Cody,
probably punk. I don't know if Cody
just probably wanted to just
get the fuck out of there before he got any
on him and, yes, I love you all,
but I must go. It was very bad
at the end, but the thing is Cody's very diplomatic.
Punk is not diplomatic, especially if you're going
to be the one fucking him over, so. Yeah, so I'm
pretty sure Tony's heard it, but
he doesn't listen to competent sources.
So, the Bucks are dead, Okada's dead,
the Osprey Fletcher-Talist thing is something.
And of course, you got the Osprey Ricochet match,
which they're determined to do very, very soon.
Is that next week?
I think they said two weeks.
Two weeks, two weeks.
Coming out of the tag tag tag.
Got to give it a big long build.
Well, that was AEW Dynamite.
What were the ratings on this fiasco?
Were they dead?
Let me pull up the ratings here.
A.W. Dynamite, September 18th, 2024, 8 to 10.06 p.m. on TBS. On average, watched by 687,000 viewers.
Oh, all right, so they're back under seven.
And just for comparison's sake, because we've talked about it before, I just want to see if I could pull this up rather quickly.
The day before, NXT on USA, September 17th, 8 to 10th.
10.7 p.m., on average, 677,000 viewers.
Gee, so 10,000 people difference now between the developmental program and their A-show.
And they're building NXT up in the weeks before it goes to broadcast TV.
Punk in Chicago, week one, Orton and St. Louis, week two.
That could be very interesting.
Well, let me go to the quarterly hour breakdown gym.
These were compiled by Resslemics.
Quarter one.
And noted trainer Thursday.
And Hale the third.
Quarter one, Chris Jericho versus Orange.
Cassidy, with picture and picture ads,
782,000 viewers.
Okay, now they didn't start again as strong as some weeks,
so that means they don't have as fur to fall.
But I would say this thing had to run off at least 50,000 viewers
in the first 15 minutes, don't you?
Well, we will find out, quarter 2, 8.15, 8.30 p.m.
the continuation of Jericho versus Pockets,
the Pac-Claudeau-Moxley backstage promo,
the Pack really disappeared when they all came out,
the Wheeler Uda backstage promo,
and Hook v. JD, Inc.
724,000 viewers.
Okay, it wasn't 50, it was 58,000 that they lost.
Well, we go now to quarter three,
8.30 to 8.45 p.m.
the post-match of the hook match with Undisputed Kingdom
Private Party's backstage promo
An ad break
The Patriarchy's backstage promo
And the start of Queen Amanata and Yucasakazaki
Versus Mariah May and Serena Deeb
With picture and picture
You know, give them credit at least their fun names to read
682,000 viewers
Apparently not fun names to watch though
there went another
42,000
so they're down 100,000 even
in the first 45 minutes
well we're going out a quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m.
The continuation of Amanata and Sakazaki
versus May and Deeb,
the Mina Shirakawa promo
Oh God
an ad break, Nigel McGinnis's video
and the John Moxie, Claudio Castignoli
Marina Shafia private party and commander
live angle,
674,000 viewers.
And it continues to fall.
At least that was only 8,000.
That's kind of normal bathroom break kind of thing,
but nobody's clamoring to come back in.
Well, we go to the big 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m.
The continuation of Moxley and Claudio and Marina and private party and commander and
Derby in their live angle.
A Jack Perry video, that was nonsensical.
talk about that. Oh, I skipped over that because I saw that fucking bus and I said, I fuck it.
And the ricochet versus Beast Morto Smatch with Picture and Picture ads or the start of it.
715,000 viewers. Also, the high point in the key demo, 330.
So they got back up over 700,000, that's 26, 30, so 41,000 people at the top of the hour.
But it doesn't look from their average like they,
were able to keep them. Am I predicting correctly?
We will find out. We go to quarter six, 915 and 930 p.m.
The continuation of Rickache versus the Beast Mortos, the hangman Adam Page video, an ad break,
and the hangman Adam Page Live promo, the start of it, 661,000 viewers.
Good Lord. All right. So there went 39, 49, 59, 59, 54,000 people, or
basically more than they just gained.
That's the low point of the show so far.
We go now at quarter six,
930 to 9.45 p.m.
The hangman Adam Page, Jeff...
Is this quarter six?
No, this is quarter seven, excuse me.
Quarter seven, yes.
Hangman Adam Page, Jeff Jarrett, live angle,
the ricochet Kyle Fletcher backstage angle,
an ad break,
and the elite versus Kinosuke Takeshita,
will Osprey and Kyle Fletcher
641,000 viewers
Wow, the main event starts and they lose 20,000
Well, we're going to out of quarter eight, I remind you, we have a six-minute overrun
Quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m.
The continuation of the elite versus the Callas family with picture and picture twice.
637,000 viewers.
Six-minute overrun, 627,000 viewers.
Oh, dear, they lose it.
Again, they've killed modern family.
So they went from the start of the program at 782,000.
They lost 141,000 from there to the start of the main event.
And the main event lost them another 14,000 people.
And again, ever since this overrun issue came up with Dave Meltzer really trying to spin it,
that it's a positive thing and that it's the responsibility of the fans,
they keep track of it.
It seems like the overruns always down.
Now, we just saw on SmackDown the opposite.
They started low, or at least at their low point,
and the show kept building.
Yeah, you get a bump at the 9 o'clock hour.
That's your job to try to win people over at that time.
They did, and their overrun went up.
AW every week, the overrun goes down,
and it was the Brian Danielson-Swerve Strickland feud,
and now it's the stuff with the bucks
and Will Osprey
who's, it seems like whenever they have the top baby face
in the company in something at the end of the show
people don't watch.
It's every week.
Well, another case of there you are.
Well, of course, Jim, coming out of AEW Dynamite,
you may, if you watch it every week, look down and go,
hey, I'm a neck beard.
I got to do something about this.
You need a fine.
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Well, and you also,
you don't need to put a razor
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Why don't we just stick to the face, the external face?
The external as opposed to the interior face.
Well, if you've got, and if you're two-faced, you need two sets of Harries, one for each
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They admit it.
Brian, have you made them admit anything yet?
They don't need to admit a thing.
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Well, Jim, speaking of close shaves, let's talk about some other topics in wrestling and, of course,
outside of wrestling, too, one of the ones that, I guess because you've commented on it in the
past and also it somehow is very, not somehow, for reasons that are obvious, it's a little
reminiscent of some of the Vince McMahon stuff.
What do you think of the arrest this past week of Sean Combs, P. Diddy, P. Diddy, P. Diddy?
I think he changed his name to Love Once, which is...
Crazy, considering all these stories about how he shared his love, apparently.
At parties, he called freakouts, where for days at a time, loaded on drugs, being secretly videotaped, with, I would assume a good amount considering they recovered a thousand bottles of lube and baby oil from his house.
I'm guessing there was a lot of lathering up happening there.
You know, if somebody hadn't heard about this story, they're going, what the fuck is he talking about?
Well, I'll stop now and we'll expand from here.
What are your thoughts on the arrest of P. Diddy and the chance that he may never see freedom again?
Well, we have talked about Daddy Diddy and all the little itty-bitty-ditties in the past on the program,
and I was not familiar with a lot of Diddy's work or his music or his whatever the heck else he's been involved in.
But now suddenly, boom, they just came down, swooped down the feds and arrested him for
not only sex trafficking and drug trafficking,
out of traffic violations,
I don't know, arson is in there, assault.
Rico.
A conspiracy, racketeering, whatever the fuck.
I don't know, but I'll tell you one thing.
Finding heroin is one thing,
or finding illegal stockpiles of weapons is another thing,
but goddamn, it's hard to talk your way out of it
when they find you with a thousand bottles of lube, isn't it?
See, let's stop right there,
because let's just say we were going to have an orgy, right?
Well, you can go ahead and say it.
I'm reserving comment till I find out who else besides you is attending.
I'm not saying I'm going to attend, but let's say there's an orgy,
and we're part of the party team, I guess.
A cast.
We're in a cast.
If you're going to have, let's say, eight people,
how many bottles of baby oil or a lube would that be?
How much lube is needed, right?
Doesn't a little bit go a long way?
Isn't that the point of lube?
Well, that used to be one of their commercial taglines.
A little dabble, do you?
On the astro glide, but I would think that even if you're going for two or three days
on all these wild wonder drugs that were apparently being passed around,
that's still one bottle of lube.
Well, it depends on the size, but I saw pictures of bottles of lube that looked pretty good size.
These weren't like pocket or purse.
Wait, with those his or was it?
just a generic photo of bottles of loob.
Well, no, it was the bottles of lube that the FBI...
Do you think that's the first time the FBI ever had to confiscate bottles of lube?
Do they have to, like, sit down with a pen and write down, what's baby oil and what's K.Y. Jelly?
They got an inventory, everything.
But I would think that one bottle of lube per person would do you for a couple of days,
because, you know, after a while, you don't have to reapply that shit that often.
So was he having a thousand?
Where was he holding this thing?
The Jaffa Mosque in fucking Pennsylvania?
Well, no.
Apparently he was doing it at times, at least in hotels because there was some hotel in
in New York that after this story broke said that like, yeah, he had to pay, I want to say
$50,000 to repair a giant room that everything was covered in baby oil.
So he brought it into the hotel.
I guess that's another thing.
Someone had to carry a bunch of lube and baby oil into the hotel.
Well, so what are the fucking?
and bell hops down there going, oh wait, that's just Diddy's people carrying in his baby oil.
And that's what that hand truck is.
And apparently drugs.
Apparently there were drugs and lube and all sorts of who knows what.
And again, secret cameras.
And you know, you got to steam clean those carpets and the drapes to get the lube out of that hotel room.
If you have to replace the drapes, that's expensive.
There are no cheap drapes.
No.
So right there.
But now here's another thing, though.
He is a wealthy man, is Diddy.
because he was offering it.
They don't want to hold it.
They don't want to let him out on bail.
They want to hold him.
Well, they are holding them.
This has been determined now.
They're not letting him out of that.
Yes, that's why I said.
They don't want to let him out on bail.
They want to hold him because he's got more money than the federal government.
They figure he can just fly away to a private island or whatever.
But he was saying he would put $50 million bail up that he wouldn't go anywhere.
What would that be?
Would that be a 10th or a 20th?
of the money that he's got, maybe?
Well, it's hard to say, because, again, what he's got, what is that?
It might be chlamydia, too, as we find out now.
I guess the point is a lot of the revenue streams are drying up.
Oh, see, that's why he needed the lube.
All right, you know.
But here's the thing.
He's got all that money.
Here's the point I was going to make with this.
He's got all that money.
why did he need to buy the lube from Costco in bulk?
Why couldn't he just buy as he's having a freak out or a fuck off or whatever it was?
Why didn't he just buy the lube needed for that individual freak out or fuck off?
Why did he have to buy and stockpile?
Then he's got evidence against him and also...
He got a good deal in bulk.
Well, yeah, but he's rich.
He doesn't need to buy in bulk.
I mean, only the poor people that have orgies with 75 or $100.
people need to buy the lube in bulk.
There's a lot of bad judgment went into this all the way around.
And apparently at these parties, and again, stories are now coming out, and it's one thing
hearing stories about Diddy, because I heard things way back when I was in the music
industry, but not like this, but stories are now coming out from people who were there.
I just saw an interview with some, I guess, male prostitute who was arrested a few years
ago for shooting up Trump's golf course.
Was his name Deuce Bigelow?
It wasn't Deuce Bigelow, but he had shot up Trump's golf course and they arrested him.
How do you shoot up a golf course?
I'm going to nail that hole in one, bam, bam, but what?
Well, apparently when he was being...
Did he get stiffed by Trump too?
I mean, not paid.
When he was being interviewed, he started saying how, yeah, they brought him in to have sex
with, you know, Cassie in front of Puff Daddy, and Puff Daddy would sit there and masturbate.
And he went to these parties and Rick Ross and,
and puffy or gay, and there were all these big rappers having sex with each other.
Rick Ross, wasn't he that big motherfucker on AWTV?
Well, no, he called out the big motherfucker.
That was Keith Lee, who, uh...
Oh.
Where's he?
Well, he was a pretty good-sized son of a bitch himself.
Well, again, this is according to the stories that are now going at, and they're coming
out in articles, and again, there are accusations that are currently at these parties, you
would have male rappers having sex with each other, which, again, it changes the
way you see a lot of the guys who are acting real hard and like their ladies men, if they're all
just getting bombed with puffy and fucking each other.
You know, I know somebody out there goes, oh, people have been, lives have been damaged by
this horrible activity.
I don't give a fuck who's in goddamn ditty daddy's social circle.
Or if you were hanging around daddy ditty and any of the little itty bitty ditties, you're probably
fucking nuts too.
How worried do you think?
celebrities, rappers, musicians, whoever it may be, politicians may be.
How worried do you think they are?
Just like a Jeffrey Epstein kind of thing where
apparently it's not about a flight log, it's about videotapes.
There's video evidence of who was at these freakoffs
that he was secretly recording.
Well, now, are these all innocent victims
and or professionally paid individuals
or are their stories of celebrities and public figures
being mixed into these videos?
reportedly celebrities and public figures being at these parties freaking off.
Well, in that case, they're probably going to be freaking out.
I'll tell you one thing.
I haven't, fortunately, I haven't been to any of Daddy Diddy's parties since the home video came into being.
Well, we will see what happens with Diddy.
Back in the 60s, me and Diddy's Daddy, we had fun.
Diddy's daddy was a connected guy.
He was hooked up with Frank Lucas.
So he hooked up with Frank Lucas, so they're all just having sex indiscriminate.
That's not what I'm saying.
All right, well, let's move on from this pervert to another pervert.
Jim, in advance of this next week, Netflix releasing the Vince McMahon docu-series, six episodes.
What are your thoughts going into it about what's about to happen, what we're about to hear?
We don't know what the story will be.
A lot of people are afraid it'll be WWE whitewashing everything.
And other people are thinking, maybe there will be people admitting that Vince was a fucked up guy in this Vince McMahon documentary.
Well, I'm interested because I've heard some people have said, oh, it's a big burial of Vince, and, you know, they're just digging into him.
And maybe that's to, maybe that's true.
It is going to be that.
Or maybe they're preparing people.
So if it's not that bad, they'll think, well, if that's a big burial, then maybe he's not so bad.
Who knows?
Right?
till we see it.
But the point is,
I got a problem with these Netflix people,
and you know this, I told you this,
I'm going to now tell the world.
They are debuting,
it's not like a six-part series
where you get to watch a part once a week,
and it's not like a debut of a television program
where 8 o'clock Eastern Time,
right here on CBS,
Netflix is putting all six of these episodes up,
at the same time at 3 o'clock in the morning.
And you claim to me that there is a strategy for that,
but I think that's stupid as shit.
What kind of goddamn big event,
the Super Bowl, the goddamn Oscars,
the opening of an all-night gas station,
what happens at 3 o'clock in a fucking morning?
The freak off.
Besides that.
Well, again, it's 3 o'clock in the morning, East Coast.
that would be midnight on the West Coast.
People are still up.
Who wants to start a six-hour goddamn deal at midnight?
And it sets it up so that if you are an interested party,
you could wake up that morning and immediately lay in bed
and watch the whole series.
You know there's going to be people watching a series.
By the time we wake up,
there's going to be some crazy wrestling fan
who already watched the whole thing
and they ran the Twitter to get shit out first.
Who has a life bereft of responsibility
to such an extent that they can get up on a,
Thursday morning in the middle of a weekday and watch six hours of television starting at
eight or nine o'clock in the morning. Wrestling Twitter.
You got me there.
All right.
Did you see the comments that, and I don't know when exactly this is from, but this was
sent to me by a bunch of people on Twitter.
The Chal Sondon comments about Vince McMahon?
I heard something about it, but I'm willing to be filled in with more detail.
Let me just double check to make sure this is a...
And by the way, while you're double-checking,
what I'm going to say
or was going to say is that
we are going to cover this on next week's
it's going to be the drive-through
and it
we'll have some other things on as well
but it will be a
special episode devoted to the
Vince mini series
that we're going to get out as quickly as possible
after we get up Wednesday morning
or Thursday morning at 9 o'clock and watch this
fucking thing or whatever
whatever day it is.
All right, let's go to audio. Apparently, this is, it says here, courtesy of flagrant, which I'm guessing is the show. It's Chale Sondon with four other men on a couch. It's like the view, but...
Wait a minute. Now, what do you got more men on a couch now? This is... Program is degenerating.
Well, let's play this. The clip says, Chale's Sonnen exposes Vince McMahon for sleeping with men with Andrew Schultz.
A year ago, Vince just got hit. It was like six months ago.
Yeah. But it kind of feels like about six months ago. And I told you, I told you,
Roman, it was the middle of a smackoff where you're talking trash anyway, but I said,
I never met Vince and I know 11 people that he slept with, eight of them men all consent,
or eight of them women all consenting adults, which is the implication.
Wow.
But that's true.
That wasn't the joke.
And Jim, when it run it, it was too hot.
He said, man, we can't do it.
Like, oh, Jim, I wasn't joking.
I was talking trash, but I wasn't joking.
Yeah.
And anyway, I mean, when Vince got me too out of the business, I did think it was a surprise.
But as good as he is, I would not completely count.
that he couldn't come back.
When the men start coming out,
it will be a different story.
When he used to bang dudes a lot.
Oh, yeah.
But he would hold their careers over them,
just like he would, the women.
It was the same thing.
You get paid more, you get pushed more.
This is not a secret in the industry.
Like, I'm not talking.
Not at all in my talking about.
This was very well known.
Sure.
Very well known.
But I mean, Sean Michaels,
like guys that you would know,
there was things.
Well, or whatever it is that they,
but yes, they had their,
they had their relationship.
Because you're wondering,
You wonder if I'm like, let me pause this for a second.
I've not sped this up and I've not really had a point to stop it.
It's just been rapid fire.
And once again, we'd like to thank our sponsors, the Meth Manufacturers Association of Farrak.
No, and I love you, Chale.
Now, Chale and I have had pleasant conversations, but Chale is a remarkable, a stunningly
accomplished self-promoter.
And he's a very smart guy.
I don't know that Sean Michaels, for one, would just come up to Chal Son,
and I'm not even sure they're in the same social circles and say,
you know, by the way, I really hated it when I used to have to bang Vince.
Or what...
You don't think it would be Vince banging him?
Well, which...
I mean, whichever terminology you're using,
the banger or the bangee...
No, it's not, it's not well known in the industry.
It's one of those well-circulated rumors to try to explain Vince's...
Love of the boy toy, Sean Michaels.
No, his suffering of Sean's picadillo's and fucking bullshit is putting up with Sean Michaels.
people tried to explain it that way.
But
I'm sorry,
but of all of the things,
honestly,
if that was revealed to be a fact,
I would be more surprised than I was
when I found out that Vince was being sued for taking a poop on somebody's head.
Because, you know, the old joke,
well, I won't even, the old joke.
But nevertheless, no, I'm sorry,
but I don't buy
this, but I think it's going to get
jail a lot of
people talking about it and publicity
as we are right now. Well, again, and
I don't know exactly when this is from, I just went up on
Twitter the other day from an account.
Isaac's Army
on Twitter. Well, that's got to
be reliable. Let's hear the last few seconds
of this. It's like doing a bit.
I'm long hair.
I guess that was it right there.
He didn't just say men. He said it was a bunch of
women, too. Well, now, I believe that whole
heartedly.
Because that's been somewhat documented, if not by Chale, and he didn't mention any names,
by all the paperwork and variety of payoffs and things that have gone on.
But we haven't found any men that have been paid off or signed NDAs or kept quiet.
And I'm sorry, I just don't see Sean and Chale sitting down and having that conversation.
If it ever did happen, I don't believe it would be bandied about in,
idle chatter.
Do you see Vince having freakoffs with women and other top guys?
Again, what do you call a top guy?
John Laurenitis, I would never...
No, no.
Just because of knowing John Cena.
John Laurenitis, I wouldn't call a top guy, but I can believe he'd do it.
That was not the most surprising part of that lawsuit to me.
Right.
What about Sean?
If someone said, if it came out in an investigation now, all these years later, that in the 90s, they weren't necessarily sleeping together, but Vince and Sean would chase women together, would that surprise you?
That would surprise me not only because at that time, everybody was keeping a pretty good eye on Vince and everybody was keeping a pretty good eye on Sean and they weren't crossing paths on a personal level that much.
but also at that point in time
I can't see Sean Michaels
when he was dallying
with one of his army of
groupies
wanting that old man around
to fucking
be you know
Mr. Blanket
first name wet type of thing
I can't see no
a lot of the guys in those days
in the 80s he'd try to go out to the bars with him
and they'd
Vince that is and they'd give him
their finish and all that stuff but in the
90s, he wasn't going to the bars with the boys and they weren't inviting him or trying to
talk him out of not going.
So I don't, anyway, yeah, more interesting stuff, but I don't buy that one.
Well, like you said, we'll be reviewing the episodes of the Vince McMahon documentary in the
next week.
Looking forward to watching that.
And now here's nothing.
You said John Cena instantly, I could say no.
you said if you'd have said
Brock Lester at first
I might have said no
because
he's a fucking farm boy
he just wants to be in Saskatoon
and he doesn't really like to get out in public
but I can buy that
if you said
Batista I'd say I'll fuck you
so it just depends on the individual
but no I don't
I don't see any of that
Well, we shall see.
Jim, another story this past week that a lot of people have been sending over different things.
I've got to see if there's anything comprehensive here.
Or comprehensive or that you can comprehend.
Have you been following the Logan Paul Kevin Nash feud?
Apparently, Logan Paul said something really stupid and Nash made fun of him about it.
And then Logan Paul responded with, well, I'm better than you were.
Well, let's have some...
That's my superficial understanding.
Apparently it started when Logan Paul interviewed Hulk Hogan
and in the interview either didn't know what the word shoot meant
or pretended not to know what the word shoot meant.
That's right.
That's what it was.
Apparently, Kevin Nash, here's a comment from him.
He's not one of the boys.
Where would he even learn that shit at?
Where is he going up and down talking jargon in the,
building? Everyone is in their own motor coach. There is no interaction. There is no socialization.
You don't become one of the boys just because you're around them. From what I heard,
he's making five million bucks for limited dates and all those other guys are out there making
house shows. Fuck you. Fuck you. That's from the boys. Fuck you. I don't give a fuck how many people
are following you. If you said you had 24,
million road scholars following you.
You're fucking Jesus.
You have a bunch of idiots.
So again, there was Kevin Nash reacting to apparently Logan Paul not knowing jargon.
Is that jargon that at this point in time you even need to be deep into the business to know?
I, that's, I've got to think he was pulling somebody's leg because I don't see how you could
walk into the building and not know what a shoot means.
And since everything is, Kay Fabe is in a goddamn.
dictionary now, right? The urban dictionary, or is it the real dictionary?
And maybe the real one, I'm not sure. Yeah, so it's not like these are the guarded terms they
once were. And if you know what a work is, and he would have to know what that is, because I'm
pretty sure as stiff as he probably was when he first got in a business, a lot of guys, hey,
we're working here. Then you would have to know what a shoot is. And I don't see
was he just playing dumb, do it a bit, or what, because otherwise you're a complete imbecile
if that's like, you know, being a dentist and not knowing how to use a toothbrush.
That's kind of the first thing you'd pick up, wouldn't it be?
You would imagine, yes, but let's get some audio here.
Logan Paul responding to Kevin Nash.
He is shirtless and apparently maybe in the forest.
I'm not sure where he is.
Let's go to this right here.
I got people messaging me.
They're like, yo, Kevin Nash is talking shit about you.
I said, damn, who is Kevin Nash?
And I mean that.
I'm unfamiliar with this guy, which I think is his problem.
I'm not as versed in the WWE in wrestling as maybe I should be as my peers are.
But then how am I so much better than all of them?
You know, I don't have the answers to these questions.
It is a question.
I don't know how I could be the best in the WW or at least one of the best.
Like, I'm a surely a top fiver.
And I don't even do it full time.
Now, imagine if I did learn a little bit.
Imagine if I devoted.
Came one of the boys.
Learn what the difference between a shoot and a work was.
Will that make me a champion?
Fuck me?
Fuck you.
You're one of the old guys who is bitter.
that I am better at your job than you ever were.
And that makes you pathetic.
This will be my sport.
And I will continue to make guys like you eat your words when I devote a little bit of time to it.
So fuck me.
Fuck you.
Well, there it is.
Logan Paul responding to Kevin Nash.
What do you think of that?
Well, you know, here's the thing.
He is a brilliant heel because he knows instinctively how to be an asshole and say the right things to piss people off.
and we've said that
and
obviously he knows to who Kevin Nash is
because you couldn't walk into goddamn
WWE office and not see pictures
on the fucking wall, right?
If you've watched any television program
so he's working that
maybe he, and he just said
so I don't know the difference tweet
of working a shoot.
Well apparently he does now
does somebody who's smarting him up or whatever
but he's a great heel
and he's saying that shit
because he knows Nash has fans
and it'll piss all of them off.
And I've got to be honest with you,
if you're talking about somebody who gets paid a lot of money for limited dates,
Nash was pretty much a trailblazer, Logan,
and counting inflation,
and he may be on your fucking tail or right up there with you,
nose and nose, neck and neck.
You know, so...
That's a very good point.
That's a very good point.
And Logan, Paul,
is a better in-ring performer,
but I don't know if he's ever going to be as smart to the wrestling business,
even if he knows what a work and a shoot is and all that stuff, as Nash was.
And so,
ah,
Nash had very good points about a lot of the guys that are getting the business these days,
a lot of them,
you know,
the money is different and the way that they're trying.
is different now and they've got motor coaches or they've got private dressing rooms or whatever
and you don't get to learn how to be one of the boys but that's not just limited to Logan Paul
there's a lot of these guys that ain't boys so I think we've got we got a little bit of a
heel program here I think Nash was in the right for responding to Logan Paul in that way
if it was actually legitimately real at Logan Paul didn't even know what
a shoot was.
But I think Logan Paul did a good job in answering as a heel because he said exactly
everything you would say if you were trying to be a heel.
Yeah, I'm good at this and I don't even try.
Imagine when I do try.
I'll get even better.
What a fucking arrogant, obnoxious asshole.
That's perfect.
If he was telling the truth and he may have just said it just to be, you know, part of
this promo, but should he know who Kevin Nash is?
Well, is there a baseball player playing on a team today that doesn't know who Willie Mays
or Mickey Mantle was?
Even if you didn't never meet him personally.
I mean, you would think he would either know Diesel, Kevin Nash, or NWO.
That's all you need to know.
Yes. If you walk into the WWE office, you're going to see pictures of this person on the wall.
If you watch any of the programming about the WWE, including.
some of the programs you're on, they will have highlights of these things,
or the biography, or the this or that, or the NWO, or whatever the fuck.
You watch Peacock.
You pick up a fucking wrestling magazine.
You're on an interview on a fucking podcast or a website with people talking about wrestling.
No, you couldn't.
You know, he might not have heard of Carl Fergie.
I'll give him that one.
But there ain't no way Logan Paul hadn't heard of Kevin Nash.
Like, does that make him look good saying, I don't know who Kevin Nash is?
Is that worse than not knowing what a shoot is?
Well, no, because it gets him heat with the wrestling fans for being a fucking obnoxious piece of shit.
So whether it's true or not, that's what he should say as an obnoxious heel.
Well, Kevin Nash responded, I have a few quotes here.
If you watch it back, I didn't say fuck you.
I said, fuck you for the boys.
I guess I'm one of the boys, so yeah, I guess technically.
But I don't have a dog in the race, man.
I don't have anything in the race.
I love the fact that the boys are making that kind of money.
It's just that the rebuttal.
I just took it in character when we talked about it and just did what you do.
You just embellish a little bit because we get a sound bite out of this.
Okay, I guess he's just saying that he started up to get a sound bite.
I'm not sure what you say.
I'm not sure about that.
Well, here's Kevin Nash on Logan Paul practicing.
I asked a person that's been in the ring with him, how is he?
He said he's amazing as far as what he could do physically.
He just doesn't remember anything.
Oh, that is something that is a trait with some people.
I don't know how much truth there is to this or not,
but they brought a ring down and brought a couple of trainers or boys,
and they go through his matches.
Maybe he said he should get more depth of knowing the history.
He's smart as fuck because Puerto Rico,
I want to think there's like a 4% tax or some shit there.
So I guess he lives in Puerto Rico because of the tax situation
and WWE has sent down a ring and trainers to work with him for his matches.
Let me stop there.
He lives in Puerto Rico on purpose.
Every wrestler I've ever known that went to Puerto Rico couldn't wait to get back.
They called it Island Fever.
Get me the fuck out of this.
place. Does that change anything about what you think about Logan Paul, the idea that he's
practicing matches move for move maybe, or at least... Well, no, I figured that. I mean,
they walk through matches amongst experienced professionals these days before TVs, both
for camera angles or entrances or run-ins or positioning, whatever the fuck. No, I was assuming
that they were working with him heavily on these matches. What...
What I think that Logan Paul has a talent that is a natural,
it's not easy to teach,
not only his athleticism,
but the way he reacts to things in the ring.
You can't practice reactions,
or you can't practice just having heal instincts like saying these things
and getting people fired up and getting us to talk about him.
He's a really obnoxious, fucking arrogant, pompous bastard.
And I like that about him.
recently, you know, he
may very well be
a Trump fuck, in which case
that diminished his appeal
to me greatly in my
eyes, but you still got to recognize
when he has a talent for something. But as far as
doing those 20-minute matches,
they weren't calling those in the ring.
I don't even think
the main events
amongst the very
most experienced guys are
called in the ring anymore.
Well, on that topic, let me finish the last quote.
here, you're not a top five guy if you can't, when I was 42 years old, if you can't go out there
and I'm sitting at home in the dressing room drinking beer and we got 12 minutes and they give
us to finish and your music plays and mine plays, you're not one of the top five guys if you
don't know what the fuck we're doing. If you can't just go out there and call it, he has to be
reminded. So that answers your
or at least... Yeah. And see, that's a thing.
Let's say Cody and
Roman Reigns is the main event. They're going to work that match out.
That's not to say that they either one couldn't go in the ring and call one
or call the same match, but they're still going to work on it ahead of time.
But guys who are not at that level of experience,
they're going to have to work on it more. And there's usually
there needs to be a leader.
and remember one of the Logan Paul matches we didn't really understand and didn't really enjoy was ricochet
because he wasn't a mate event guy and there was no real leader they just wanted to do fancy moves and dive at each other
so Logan Paul he needs a leader and he needs practice and at this level of his experience he should
because he didn't train the normal way but that that doesn't diminish Nash's
point that you can't really be one of the top guys in a company if you can't go out and do this
from scratch.
Well, Jim, maybe Logan Paul can reach out to a wrestling veteran for some help, learn how to have
the instincts to call it in the ring.
Maybe he needs to call somebody and maybe needs a good phone plan.
Well, if you need to call it in the ring, you've got to call somebody that knows how to
call it in the ring, and then they'll tell you how to call it.
So you know who you need to call?
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Or you can call
and you can say
one tackle drop down, get it again, take me over.
You can call all the spots you want to call
by either written communication or actual verbal communication
on the nation's largest 5G network.
Brian, what is a 5G network?
It's bigger than a 4G network, I'll tell you that.
Well, there you go, and they got one.
And the MENT Mobile Wireless Plan started just $15 a month,
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You can use your own phone.
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As a matter of fact,
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you can use other people's phone numbers.
You can just say,
on Tuesday,
I'd like you to forward Delores's calls over to me,
and they'll do it.
It don't work like that,
and you shouldn't want that.
You should just want the best for yourself with Mint Mobile.
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And you can ditch the overpriced wireless,
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And here's the thing.
Maybe take your cell phone.
You know, they make those things so small these days
and stick it in a crotch your tights.
And that way, when you're out there in the ring,
you can have somebody that knows what they're doing, call you,
and call the match for you, and all you have to do is keep one ear on your crotch.
And that way they can walk you through the whole thing.
Yeah, I don't know about that, but get a great phone plan with Mint Mobile.
Use your own phone.
Do whatever you want.
Be in control with Mint Mobile.
What's that promo code, Jim?
JCE.
Every time you see Logan Paul in a match and his opponent gets him in a head scissors,
he's listening to the Mint Mobile phone plan.
in the guy's tights telling him what to do.
And then he nips up and does the spot.
Also, you'll see a lot of men are putting their heads
in other men's laps these days.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about,
but you could find out what other people are talking about
when you call them or accept the phone call with Mim Mobile.
What's that promo code, Jim?
JCE.
And you know, that's the thing is that if you stick that phone in your pocket
or in the crotch of your tights or whatever,
then anybody that puts their head within a,
about a three-foot radius of your crotch,
we'll be able to hear what's going on.
Oh, you hear that music.
You know what that means?
We had to wrap it up with Mint Mobile.
One more time, Jim, what's that promo code?
J-C-E.
That's right.
Phones in the crotch for everybody.
Phones in your hands, to your head,
talking to your people with Mint Mobile.
My pen is snapping if you hear that.
Sorry, everyone.
Phones in your hands to your head.
All right, well, Jim.
Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground.
A couple more things before we get out of here.
A few people sent over a question about this.
I don't know if the video went around, so let me ask you,
this was sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com from Andrew.
The same week of the last stampede,
Jim Crockett promotions,
booked the African-American brother duo,
The Dargan Twins, as the Midnight Express.
Leroy and Luther Dargan.
I haven't heard those names in 30 years.
They were billed.
as the Midnight Express on TV.
Are you kidding?
Well, the question is, was that perhaps a rib on Watts for pushing black talent?
I don't know why the person thinks it would be that.
Or was this?
Sounds like it's a rib on us.
Well, the thoughts on using the name the same time Eaton and Conjury were breaking out
as stars in Mid-South.
You know what?
I had never heard that, and I guarantee you that that was completely coincidental and
accidental. The Dargan twins, they were two black guys, they were twins, right?
Leroy and Luther, and they had a very brief wrestling career, but I remember they were in
the Carolinas, and also I think they were continental for a while or somewhere down south.
The last stampede was April or May of 1984, depending on what stampede event.
We shot the angle in March by the time it played on TV. It was the end of March.
I think it was complete coincidence.
They probably saw two black guys in the Carolinas at times,
hey, let's call them the Midnight Express.
And then they realized there was another one.
And because Dusty, what was that?
Was that?
Dusty was down and worked with us at the August Superdome.
But he heard about the match before that.
It may have been close to a period of time where they were just hearing about us over there.
Flair had been in, I think, over the summer in Oklahoma at least.
But yeah, there was a time where, except for the movie,
The Midnight Express had no meaning in wrestling.
And then only in Alabama and Tennessee,
because Dennis and Randy and Norville had done the thing in continental and in Memphis,
but nowhere else.
So coincidence, I believe.
Now if they'd have kept it up till we came,
men, I'd have been pissed.
Because then that was always why I was told that
Tom Rinessto and Jody Hamilton, the assassins,
when they went to the Carolinas, they were called the Bolo's,
rather than the assassins, because there had been
outlaw assassins in the territory, and the name was kind of bleh,
because of them.
So if we'd tried to come in as the Midnight Express,
and there'd been an underneath team called a Midnight Express there for a
year, that wouldn't have fucking worked, would it?
Maybe they saw us and said, let's change it.
And we'll see what more we can find out. Maybe there's
some video. The fact that people are sending this to us makes me think there must be some
video. But, Jim,
on that topic, I have a list here in front of me.
These are the reported trademarks that have been filed by Chris Jericho.
Oh, boy.
Trying to get to the top of this is a big list.
The list of Jericho trademarks.
Let's get your thoughts on some of these trademarks.
High guys, recently trademarked.
What the fuck?
How can you trademark high guys?
The Jericho Vortex has been trademarked, as well as the learning tree, and the educator.
The educator.
The rarefied air of Jericho has been trademarked, as well as Seekin destroy.
What the-Ferico juice and Judas Juice.
this next one's interesting
wait a minute Brian you know before we go any further with the list you know as well as I do
because we both trademark some things it's not
it's not free you can't just say I want to file that you have to fill out paperwork
pay somebody to do it filing fee etc depending on how far you want to go with it or
how you know how narrowed down you want it to be for goods and services whatever
it's it's ongoing how much money
is he spending just to indulge all of these goofy ideas he's having?
Is any of this ever going to be monetized?
Probably not, but there are also a friendly wrestling attorneys who just want to be around
the wrestler so they'll do some stuff, and specifically around trademarks, from what I've heard.
Gas wrestling, under trademark, gas wrestling.
Gas wrestling?
What wrestling that gives you gas? What is gas wrestling?
Or wrestling, everyone's on steroids.
I'd like to see that. The Jericho era.
is under trademark.
About the Jericho, the Jericho error.
Well, no, that's not this one.
This is the Jericho error.
This was trademark in November 2023.
The Golden Jets, you may remember that tag team of him and Kenny Omega, I think.
Yeah, but then they were broken up for the Golden Lovers,
Ibushi and Olivier, so that they could be in adjoining hospital beds recovering on Tony's dime.
Also filed for trademark by Chris Jericho in 2023, Babyface Assassin Productions.
Limited.
Also, I don't know what this is, one word, duck trillion.
Duck trillion, one word.
Not sure what that was, maybe a bender.
But these two, this is an interesting concept from May of 2023, Fossey Fest or Fossfest.
I guess he couldn't decide
and he hadn't used any
Well it wasn't hard for
It wasn't hard for Ozzy to decide
Why is it hard for him to decide
Before that in 2023
The first filing of the year was for Jericho
The purported tag came to him and the big show
I believe
That went a long way
They went down in history with Bach Winkle and Stevens
Here are some interesting ones
In 2022 Christory
Christory
Wait a minute
That's
That's kiss is fucking
No that's kistery
This is chry
This is chistery not kistery
But that's the same goddamn thing
A money grab?
Maybe
What about seltzer man
Seltzer man
Seltzer man?
I guess what you have to sober up
Here comes the seltzer man
So what you watch
You watch his matches
And it gives you indigestion
And you need a seltzer
What about bromide man?
How about a...
You know?
Good Lord.
The same day...
Metamusal man.
The same day he filed for Christory, he also filed for this day in Christory.
Also, he filed for the Ring of Jericho and Chris Jericho's blood boat.
The blood boat.
Wait a minute.
I know he does the cruises, but do you want to go on a cruise where it's entitled the blood
boat, especially with the history of cruise ships and having outbreaks of various diseases of
ill repute?
Maybe you should trademark the Chris Jericho blood tests with that, but also here, the Ocho.
You remember the Ocho?
That was in October of 2022.
The Ocho?
Yes, he had done something eight times.
Also, in 2022, the watch.
The watch.
The wizard. You remember the wizard?
Remember the wizard? After the Ocho, shouldn't he have been the nacho? What's nine?
Well, this is technically before that. We're going backwards. Oh, we're going backwards. So is he.
Well, you may remember these two from March of 2022. JAS and Jericho Appreciation Society.
Boy, how could we forget those? That was a big pill to swallow.
The influencer. The influencer. A lot of people want to be those on
understand. Here's another one you may remember from its brief run before John Moxley spoiled that.
G.F.Y.
Ah, GF.Y. You remember that?
Yeah, for the younger listeners, Jericho trademarked and was going to make an interview deal
out of GFY, which basically stands for Go Fuck Yourself.
And the same week on TV, Moxley just had Tourette's and blurted out on television for no
apparent purpose, I'll go fuck yourself.
And he kind of
put the damper on that.
Mr. Blanket, first name wet.
We are now in 2021.
There's an image here, the symbol, the image
of Chris Jericho as the pain maker with his
hat and his Alice Cooper makeup and his
spiky jacket and everything else there.
God of war.
God of war was trademarked in 2021
as well as the Rock
of Jericho.
Oh, the Rock of Jericho.
Come on.
A name from the past Corazon de Leon.
Trademarked, that was his name and...
Well, I can know that...
C-M-L, yeah.
I can see that.
He actually campaigned and competed under that name.
Not sure about this next one.
Clint Bobsky.
What?
Clint.
C-L-I-N-T, the name Clint,
and then Bob-B-O-B-S-K-I.
Did he have like another idea for a stude?
like Ralphus or?
I'm not sure, but obviously things changed
from what he thought in the past because the next one from
2020, million viewer man!
No!
That hasn't aged so well, the million viewer man, Chris Jericho.
He wouldn't be able to give the supporting
documentation on that one to get that trademark
pushed through.
Here's an interesting one.
Mimosa Mayhem.
That was the match he had with Orange Cassidy.
It was an AEW match.
What do you think of AEW allowing the wrestler?
to trademark the gimmick they used on their show.
You know what, I bet you?
I don't know anything.
I don't know it for a faxie.
You ain't heard it for me.
But knowing that Tony Kahn is predisposed to be entertained in his childlike mind
with whatever's going on up there by that fucking goof pockets.
And he dressed up like the idiot for Halloween.
And he books him to beat everybody in the...
the company, legitimate wrestlers, and he puts him on TV constantly.
And it was never funny to begin with in its long past stale.
But Jericho saw that and said, not only am I going to come up with Orange Cassidy's
signature match like Wahoo and the strap match or Avin Koloff in the chain match,
but then I'm going to trademark it.
So every time Tony books one for his favorite little
comedy figure, he's got to pay me something.
Do you think that's what he was doing?
But it was such a stinker, they never had another one?
I think you could argue to this day that no one has
better manipulated Tony Khan for their own benefit than Chris Jericho
and AW history. So I don't know.
I think...
But we have more.
I'd like to say the Hardley boys are giving him competition there, but go ahead.
Let's hear more. He gets more money than they do.
The painmaker, you may remember the pain.
maker.
Yes.
Demo God.
Remember when that was a thing?
I remember that.
Doesn't really brag about that one anymore.
Now he's the bathroom line god.
The wheel blocks.
The wheel blocks from 2020.
The wheel blocks.
I'm not sure.
Thank God we never found out what this is.
Gig pigs.
Gig pigs.
Are those what he calls his ring rats?
The gig pig.
You know what?
There you go.
They're the girls that like Fuzzy and wrestling,
and they come to both of his gigs.
Well, here's some interesting ones during the pandemic.
Grains and greens.
Grains and greens.
And then, and I'll spell it for you, quarantine.
They used to be one of our sponsors, didn't they?
That was another type of green.
That was a different company.
Well, here's another one, and I'll spell this one out for you in a moment.
Quarantine.
Quarantine.
Quarantine.
K-U-A-R-A-N-T-I-N-E.
Quarantine.
During the pandemic, that's what we needed,
a wrestler named Quarantine.
Also, there's a few more here, Jim.
The Bubbly Bunch.
The Bubbley bunch.
A little bit of the bubbly.
Also, Flim-F-M-F-W-W.
Now, I'll tell, nobody in that company
has a fucking copyright on Flim-F-Lam.
they're all practitioners.
There's still more, the podcast he used to do, Talk is Jericho.
I don't know if he still does it, actually, maybe.
Talk is Jericho.
That's trademark, that makes sense.
Also, the Chris Jericho, Rock and Rager, Rock and Wrestling Rager at Sea.
That makes sense.
It's very long, but it's what he does on his blood boat.
Fossey.
He owns the trademark to Fossey, according to this.
Well, because everybody in the band is, all they are the musicians.
They don't, nobody knows who they are, so he's the star.
Painmaker Posse.
The Painmaker Posse.
Any thoughts if that would have worked?
I'd like to see if they would misspell that just a little bit on the, on the application,
like AEW did on one of its applications before so we could get the pain maker pussy.
Well, shortly after AEW started October, or on TV at least, October 2019, he trademarked two things,
The Painmaker and the Inner Circle.
You may remember that?
I read the first big group that he was able to sap energy and life-sustening force off of.
A few more here, a little bit of the bubbly, rock and wrestling rager, and finally, Chris Jericho.
He owns the trademarked of Chris Jericho.
Well, that one was probably easy.
I don't know if anybody's fighting him over that one these days.
You know, it's one thing if you're going to use these things in commerce.
It's another thing if you're just trademarking anything that comes into your head.
It's not the way it's supposed to work, but any thoughts on this?
Well, yes, again, it takes time and effort.
And even if he's got some Mark doing it for him for nothing,
that's a lot of shit to go through for just vague concepts and blurted out words, isn't it?
It certainly is.
And I didn't give credit to the person who sent this in.
Danny in Wigan, England or Wiggin, Wiggin, excuse me.
Wiggin, you of all people can't pronounce Wiggin.
I haven't seen it
a while.
Wiggin England.
Wig in England.
And if Billy Riley had his way,
you wouldn't see it at all.
Well, Jim, before we wrap things up today,
I want to talk a little bit about some retro action figures
because I've got a flood of them right here.
And one of them, I know you have,
from the zombie sailor figure line,
the brand new Hercules Hernandez figure,
wearing the T-shirt from Power and Glory.
There's also a Paul Roman.
a figure to finish your power and glory set.
But Hercules Hernandez, the black trunks, the beard, the kind of, the look he had in Mid-South.
What do you think of the figure?
Yeah, the chain.
The look he had in Mid-South besides the T-shirt.
But boy, you sent me one of those, and I do appreciate it, because now I've got a,
I can't say a shelf because I have no more shelves left, but I have part of a shelf where I've got
books and I've got some space on the end.
I'm starting to prop up
all the figures of
guys that I'm getting now that I actually
managed during my career that I have
not had figures
of before or
representations of or whatever.
And Hercules is there proudly
because I love that fucking guy
and what an athlete he was.
But no, these things are cool.
And, you know,
it's a
it's an under
what's the word I'm searching for
an underrepresented era
that some of these guys are coming from
where they either the company wasn't doing
land office business on merchandise
or just these guys
in some cases like the Mantar figures
we talked about they may have slipped underneath the surface
or between the cracks or
down the drain or however it's fucking phrase.
You know what it is specifically with the Hasbro figures
and these are obviously
Hasbro-style figures.
If you look at like 1990
when they first came out,
there were demolition,
the Twin Towers,
Andre, Rick Rood,
Hogan, Savage,
DiBiase, Jake,
Brutus Beefcake,
maybe Andre,
but there were a lot of guys
that weren't in that.
And then when the second group came out,
it was some of the other top guys
that were there at the time,
dusty, a few other people.
But there was still a ton of guys
not included.
There was never a herkeos.
Hernandez in the line.
Well, yeah, because, you know, think about this.
Or Hercules at that time, not even Hercules Hernandez.
Yeah, and think, you know, if they, if Vince had 50 guys under contract because he was
running two and three shows or whatever, but they only did a line of, you know, eight figures
at a time and an eight more would come out.
And by the time they do another one, that guy has left and gone somewhere else.
They do more without it.
You know, some people.
And we've talked about it.
how the Midnight Express never really got figures when they were on top and popular,
where things would have sold.
It was after the fact and not done on any widespread basis until mine came out at Jimcornette.com,
Cornett's collectibles, the Midnight Express and Heavenly Body's action figures are available.
But some of these guys, as we said, underrepresented, never,
that was one of the
main reasons I wanted
to do these Midnight Express figures
as we talked about before is so many of
the guys didn't get
any money from their own merchandise.
Either they weren't sold
as they should have been or
they got jacked around
and didn't get their
rightful due on it. The Midnight Express
have been an R from these
and these new
retro figures have gone
through the
the various families or estates or whatever,
so at least the guys are finally getting something.
On that topic and slightly going away from wrestling,
but part of the zombie sailor figure line
and talking about estates,
I sent you one of these, the new Bruce Lee action figure.
Yes.
And I'm curious because you are a Bruce Lee fan.
Did you ever feel like when you were, you know, young in a fan of his,
that there was ever proper merchandise?
I mean, there was never an action figure for you to get, was there?
No, there were never
There was never an action figure
and I lived through
the Bruce Lee craze, the heyday, the movies
Enter the Dragon and then his death
and the iconic status that was awarded him afterwards
and there were special magazines
all over the newsstands and you could get Bruce Lee
wall posters and Bruce Lee
you know kung fu courses
and did I mention tons of commemorative magazines.
Never an action figure that I ever saw.
And this one has him in the stance and has the bloody claw prints from the fucking mirror room scene, right?
That's right.
So this one, yeah, so this is a cool one, but no, they didn't.
You had everything else but.
Like I said, the videos, when video became a thing, home video,
videos of the movies
drive-ins would do
you know quadruple features
everything that you could exploit
about Bruce Lee
except an action figure
well again that's in the Hasbro
style and sticking on the topic of Hasbro style figures
and as opposed to the ones in AEW
they're doing now which are in the Has Been style
Well this is the newest one
from figure collections
Russell Something Wrestlers line
again the Hasbro style
the brand new referee Mike Kyoto action figure.
It comes with three replaceable hands, of course, with different fingers up so you could properly count in the photos you're taking with the figure.
Yeah, if I know Kyoto one finger would specifically be up.
According to the back of this, from Willingboro, New Jersey made his TV debut in 1989.
He has been the third man in the ring ever since.
From then until 2021, he called some of the most legendary.
iconic matches in pro wrestling history. Again, this is from figure collections and the
wrestle something wrestlers. What are your thoughts on referee action figures? Is it a necessity
and Mike Keota? Well, you got to have the referee if you're going to have two wrestlers
wrestle, right? You got to have a referee and Kyoto, again, like I'd never had a crossword
with Mike Keota. He's a fun guy, nice guy. He was there to show up and do his shit. And the
referees in those days,
except for
Earl Hebner and
Timmy White, who had
attained some level of status
and seniority, all the
referees, and it wasn't just
Kyoto,
it was, there was Jack
Done, and
Tony Chimble, even though he was
a ring announcer, they all had to work
on the ring crew also.
When I first got there, I was
like, stunned,
that all of the referees were also the ring crew guys,
so they had to ride in the truck,
they had to get there early, set all that shit up,
and didn't get dressed.
I'm like, holy fuck.
But no wonder they had Hebner
or they had Timmy White to do the main events
so they could spend a little more time with,
you know, concentrating on their match
and what was going to go on if it was a pay-per-view TV or whatever.
But the referees, they got their money's worth out of them.
But Kyoto, very nice guy.
I'm glad to see he got memorialized in plastic.
Well, sticking on the topic, and let me just mention also,
because I haven't here, figure collections just put out guardrails,
for anyone who needs guardrails for their photos.
But, Jim, I have here from the Hastel Toys Gimmicks,
grapplers and Gimmicks, excuse me, grapplers and gimmicks line.
You talk about wrestlers missing from those sets of the late 80s, early 90s figures.
the fabulous Rujo brothers, Jacques and Raymond,
what do you think the finishing maneuvers for each one of these competitors is?
Oh, now, they've got an individual finishing maneuver rather than a tag team.
Each of them have their own finisher.
The French flop and fly.
Oh.
And the Paris Peace Accord.
Jacques has the Montreal masher.
And of course, Raymond with the Rout.
Ruge.
I think mine were better, weren't they?
I think so.
Maybe I would give Jacques Ruzhou rage.
He's the one who took Dynamite's teeth out.
Maybe when the Eddie Auger figures come out, they'll modify those.
Well, that's a different toy line.
We'll see what happens there.
Jim, the Rujo brothers, again, a team that I don't think you ever would have
interacted with you around Jacques Rugeot earlier than that.
But did you see the stuff with them in Montreal and the Garvins as it happened?
And any thoughts on them?
did you ever watch them as baby faces or heels in WWF?
Yes, well, I'd known Jacques Rugeot,
and we've talked about it since he came to Memphis in,
what was that, 1980, it was 82, wasn't it?
Yeah, 1982, he came down as a baby face,
and he was French-Canadian in Tennessee,
so that was goddamn stranger in paradise.
And so they quickly turned him heel because he was,
you know, we've talked about it.
I mean, this is not even an insult.
French-Canadian people.
Many of them have a way of talking or coming off to Americans,
especially Americans that aren't used to dealing with French-Canadian people,
where they're fucking assholes.
And Jacques was not getting over as a baby face,
but boy, he was a natural heel.
He was a French Logan Paul.
Ray Rie Rageau, I worked with more when I got to the WWF,
in the 90s because he was still doing
a French language commentary
and would do some work
around the Canadian events
that DeMarco was running and etc.
So Raymond, very nice guy
and the more calm of the two brothers.
But he was in the boxing match
we did in Montreal, Owen against Raymond Rougeau
where he had George Chavalo in his corner.
so that was fun
but no the rouges were a good tag team
and
I always
enjoyed them more as heels
but they
they were more
noted for being heels
in the United States
but they were huge baby faces
in Montreal
and what was that run with the Garvins
85 or 86?
I believe it went into 86
I believe 86
so but the point is Ronnie and Jimmy
because Ronnie's French Canadian
and Jimmy is not a blood relative
so he's old-fashioned American
but they were able to be the heels
and face the rujos in Montreal
and one thing about Montreal
and we've seen it with the rizzoes,
we've seen it with the Ladooks,
we've seen it with Kevin Owens, Kevin Steen,
they support whoever the local wrestling hero is.
And Jacques in modern days
has drawn some incredible size
houses on indie shows in Montreal, but they were, what was it to the promotion?
Was that All-Star wrestling at the time or what was?
International.
International.
They were drawing 15,000 people and up to the forum in Montreal for those tag matches,
right, and had a ton of heat.
And that's right when they made the deal with Vince and the Rugeos went there,
King Tonga went there, Dino Bravo went there.
Yeah.
Everyone ended up working for Vince.
And a business in Montreal went to hell and handbasket.
because he got all the stars,
but they were drawn a tremendous amount of money,
and that's when,
you know,
it's all about time and place and angle.
Because they had,
Montreal had not been doing well business-wise
for a few years before that,
but boom,
it made an incredible comeback,
and you had,
that's what they need.
That's the Montreal recipe
is to have really strong,
local French-Canadian baby face and then a heel that either is, you know, maybe in Ronnie's
case, French-Canadian, but also just heels that work well with those baby faces and you can draw
money or you could. I don't know if you can do anything anymore, but there you have it.
Well, there you have it. One more figure I want to quickly mention. So we'll have more about
these in future installments of this because it appears as a competition going on between the
Savage Estate and the Davey Boy Smith estate.
Who can get the most stuff out?
What we have here from Hastel Toys,
gimmicks, I did it again,
grapplers and gimmicks,
Davy Boy Smith 97.
For anyone looking for a Hart Foundation,
Davy Boy Smith.
Davey Boy Smith 97, we'll talk more about
Davey Boy in future weeks.
One last Hasbro-style figure
from KWK,
K-Fave Heroes, our friend Sean Ng,
this is the brand new comic kid figure, aka Max Moon.
Oh my God.
Tom Borick, aka Paul Diamond, from outer space,
born May 11th, 1961, from outer space, Tom Borick.
Well, wait a minute, that's across the international date line if it's in outer space,
so how do we know what day it actually was?
I'm not exactly sure.
Is that Eastern time?
But we talk about filling out your collection.
Here's a character that briefly appeared in 92 and 93,
played a first by Conan, I guess, developed by Conan and Vince,
and then they fell out, and Vince gave the gimmick to Paul Diamond,
who had been Cato in the Orient Express under a mask,
he became the Comet Kid, aka Max Moon.
Any memories of Max Moon?
I wonder how many driver's licenses Paul Diamond had.
And he wasn't even the original Paul Diamond,
There was a Paul Diamond wrestler in the 60s that was good-looking, you know, a bodybuilder type.
The way that he got to be Cato in the Orient Express was because Paul Diamond and Pat Tanaka were a tag team called Bad Company with 2Ds, B-A-W-D, bad company.
And they worked for Vern in the A-W-A-W-W-A, right?
and they did, I think they had a run down in Continental in Alabama.
This was mid to late 80s.
Might have gone to Memphis for a while, I believe they did.
Yes.
They were a good tag team.
And as a matter of fact, when the Midnight Express and I took that time off from WCW in 89,
we quit because of George Scott and then he got fired and finished up for we did.
We took the two months off.
one of the matches that we had
was for a promoter named Joe Pizza
because his last name was Italian
and you couldn't pronounce it.
So everybody called him Joe Pizza
up in Northeast Ohio
was around Akron Canton,
thereabouts.
And it was the Midnight Express
from the NWA versus Diamond and Tanaka
bad company from the AWA
and Dr. Mark Curtis was their manager.
No way.
Yes, because it,
It was really close to Pittsburgh, and Brian worked for Joe Pizza on a lot of his shows.
So he's the one that kind of put it together because he had called me, said,
hey, this guy, Joe Pizza wants to bring y'all in to work with bad company.
And I'm like, okay, so Brian set it up.
So naturally he put him in the quarter and we had fun.
I think I've got a tape of it around here somewhere.
It's the only time we ever had a match with him.
But point is, when they got to the WWF, I think it's another one of Vince's thing.
well, why is one of them not Japanese?
Well, because one's Japanese, one's not.
They're bad, go.
Well, let's make them the Orrin Express.
Put a fucking mask on the guy.
Nobody will be able to tell.
Well, remember, he replaced Akio Sato who retired.
Originally, it was Sato and Tanaka.
And then Sato retired and became Kato and Tanaka.
Well, how the heck did they get Tanaka away from Diamond to put him with Sato when Sato was
on the verge of retiring at that point?
Money.
Well, nevertheless, anyway, you had the team of bad companies suddenly became the Oriene Express,
and they weren't able to do as much as they did in other places up there.
Let's put it that way.
But Daimo was a nice guy, but like I said, he had 18,000 names.
How good was Pat Tanaka?
Very good.
Very good worker.
His drawback was he was so small.
And now that wouldn't have been, he was short as well as small.
It wouldn't have been a biggest drawback now as it was then,
but he was a really good worker.
All right, one last thing in the Hasbro realm I want to mention,
because this is one of the coolest things,
and I love what these guys put out.
Recollect Retro Creations, W-R-E-Creations,
the Piper's Pit Playset for your action figures.
you could have the blue background or the tan background.
It has the wallpaper and the little desk.
These guys put out a bunch of cool stuff.
Check them out.
Recollect.
Jim, another figure I just got from Japan.
From Bandai,
the Great Muda Poison Mist Spray series.
It's the Great Muda in red,
and it has two replaceable heads.
One of them is just a stationary Muda head.
the other one, do I have it here?
The Moota in red.
The ladies go crazy for the Moota in red.
The other one, I lost the other Moota had because I was so disappointed.
The other one has a little capsule where you can insert a liquid and open its mouth.
And it's supposed to spray out of mist.
However, from my experience with this so far, there's no spray.
It's just a direct water shot like a water gun, which is not what Moota did.
Well, I think you should be able to, you should kind of press down on.
On top of the head, it's like a Pez dispenser.
It's just going,
P.
So this is the, you can check this out from Bandai, the great mood of poison.
What do you think the estate of the great kabuki?
The great kabuki.
What do you think his estate is going to say about this?
Don't they need to share some kind of trademark?
Actually, from what I understand,
and I probably shouldn't say too much.
There is a great kabuki figure in the works right now.
That'll be coming out.
But yeah, I have the...
But is it going to spray the mist, brother?
Well, this one doesn't spray the mist.
It just shoots out liquid.
It shoots out water right at my face.
Well, it's not supposed to be water.
It's supposed to be red liquid or green liquid or whatever.
I had to test it out with something just to see if it works first.
Well, see, you're not using the right thing.
Get the food coloring.
You know, when he shoot the red, it's bad.
When he shoot the green is bad.
But when he shoot the black, the shit's own, brother.
Jim, from A-24, I have the brand new Zach Ephron as Kevin Von Erick Action for him.
from the Iron Claw, it is Zach Ephron and Kevin Von Erick's famed yellow trunks with his blue jacket with yellow trim.
And no shoes to make it look authentic looks just like Kevin Von Erick, except for looking like Zach Efron.
Except it looks nothing like Kevin Bonner.
One of your thoughts on action figures from movies of people playing real-life characters who need a good updated action figure.
That's a lot of degrees of separation there.
an action figure of a guy playing a guy who's playing a
I don't know about that.
I think, you know, but maybe what they could do,
I'm thinking because I saw Kevin the other day when he was on the television from Dallas,
you know, on AEW.
Do you think they could save plastic if the companies got together
and they just with different clothes on,
they marketed the same figure for Gary Busey and Kevin Von Erick?
Oh, come on.
like that? You thought he looked like Gary Busey?
Well, I'm just, they're starting to be a little resemblance now as they age.
I don't know about that, but the new Kevin Von Erick, or Zach Ephron as Kevin Von Erick action figure.
Zach Erick Effron.
Except for a website.
Zach Eric Von Efron. That's what it is.
Jim, one last figure here.
You keep saying that.
This is from the Monday Night War, WWMeteline, WWE versus WCW.
each figure has a specific date applied to it.
This figure from Raw May 12, 1997 is Rob Van Dam.
Thanks to Jerry the King Lawler,
Rob Van Dam left ECW for WWE,
declaring the promotion too low budget to handle his extreme talents
and showed why he's Mr. Monday night.
And thanks to Jerry Lawler, was that what they did on television?
I can't even remember.
Jerry Lawler and brought him.
I guarantee you, Jerry Lawler really had no fucking connection whatsoever
and giving anybody an ECW a job.
Also in this line, there's a build a figure where every figure comes with a part
for another figure you could build.
This one has the disciple, Ed Leslie as the disciple in the NWO.
Did it have an extra brain or extra face?
One of his less well-remembered gimmicks, but he was jacked to the tits at that time.
Rob Van Dan coming to Raw.
What do you remember about the raw May 12th, 97?
I'm assuming that may be the raw at the Manhattan Center, but...
No, no, hold on now.
The raw at the Manhattan Center was earlier in the year, I thought that's where they...
It's not where...
It was before the pay-per-view.
That's right.
Yeah, that's not where Van Dam debuted and began working for the WWF.
I think that was the time where he didn't even work for the WWF.
They were there, but Paul E was playing some kind of sex, sexual, gay.
and Sabu and Van Dam were out in a fucking trailer
Paul was bringing the messages back and forth
because nobody was happy about their finishes.
Van Dam came in full time later on.
That wasn't a red-letter day for me.
I have no recollection of that.
I was probably there.
Where was it?
I did not say, did it say, hold on.
I could go find my book and probably tell you,
but I don't feel like standing up
risking shit. It does not say. It does not say, but
that was the retro figure rundown this week, Jim, on the topic of figures.
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That was the original one.
That's why it doesn't sound as nice as the pentatonic one.
Yeah, that was the original sour note that was.
ever struck. Well, let's get a song or two before we get out of here. We have one that has been
submitted a name we haven't heard in a while, Rocky the Ramon. Oh, Rocky. Rocky the Ramon with his
latest hit, but we'll find out about that. Here it is. The name of the song is Tony Cons Doe.
Fidna been for Tony Con's Doe, I'd be working out on machos. Where does it come from? Where does it
go? We're getting fat on Tony Con's Doe. Fanana been for Tony Conn's Doe, I'd retire it a long time ago.
Where does it come from? Where does it go?
We're getting fat on Tony Count's dough.
Banana bin for Tonicons dough.
We'd never have to see Reho.
Where does it come from? Where does it go?
We're getting fat on Tony Cons do.
Banana bin for Tony Con's dough.
Couldn't be an EV. People take it clothes.
Where does it come from? Where does it go?
We're getting fat on Tony Count's dough.
Bands are done!
Banana bin for Tonicons dough.
I'd be working out on nachos.
Where does it come from? Where does it go?
We're getting fat on Tony Count's dough.
Band for Tony Con's Doe.
I've retired a long time ago.
Where does it come from?
Where does it go?
We're getting fat on Tony Con's dough.
We take you now to the media scrum where Tony Con is about to speak.
Stop this for a moment.
What is happening?
It's kind of a cross-combobulation of Cotton Eye Joe and the Chipmunks?
And the Chipmunks.
Banana band for Tony Con's Doe.
We'd never have to see Rehold.
Where does it come from? Where does it go?
We're getting fat on Tony Consdo.
Finan the band for Tonikon's dough.
Couldn't be an EVP with take your clothes.
Where does it come from? Where does it go?
We're getting fat on Tony Consdo.
We seem to be coming to a close.
I'm going to start lowering us down.
All right. I'm going to call it here because it's just music going.
Sorry if you had a witty thing at the end, Rocky.
But what do you think of that, Jim?
Well, I just applauded it.
A good tune, easy to dance, too.
Maybe Cotton Eye Joe can be a theme song for Tony Con in the near future.
All right, well, I don't know.
He certainly got eyes.
It looked like piss holes in a snowbank.
I don't know about cotton.
Let's try this one.
Are you even getting these emails, Brian?
It's been about a year.
This one was sent from Stefan and Auburn, Maine, of the band's Spermicidal Tendencies.
Let's try this.
Let's go to this.
And then suddenly in the ring from behind
is Jacob Fatu
under that name.
The Samoan War,
oh, there are wolves of Samoa.
And now you see,
that didn't sound like a wolf for that second.
But I'm like a little bit.
Now you see how to get over.
Open and in the venue understand.
MLW's neat
slow as Sequoia's reign
He was going to a place
He would be overlooked
Gonna kick the fucking shit
Out of Cody Friday
Really much better than
Forbitten door
Petition
They were humiliate Saturday night
When the Samo and the werewolves
Flying
Look after your foot now
We're a whale wolf
The Samoa
But anyway
So we got the werewolf.
He got him.
He looked like a million bucks.
They made him.
They put him over big time on commentary as it was happening.
And the Tongans, the moment at the end where they walked up and Solo and Jacob are at the front.
And they all do the one finger.
The Tongans almost looked like worried.
Well, I've seen Tonga Kid, the Smoh and Swat Tea.
The Snowah, son of the Tonga kid of the Samo and Swat Tea.
he is the werewolf of Samoa
and our family sits
I dare ask if it's racist
a warwolf of Samoa
For Samoa
All right, well we've just received a complaint
from the Warren Zivon estate
But now Jim, what did you think of that?
That's what killed Warren Zivon
That's a good attempt there
There's something in there
somewhere maybe needs to be more fully explored.
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