Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 363

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite, NXT on CW, and WWE Raw! Plus Jim talks about AEW's record low tv ratings, NXT ratings Pete Rose, AEW's ownership, songs, and much more! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hello again, friends! And you are our friends, and I still don't sound exactly great, but welcome to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru right here, where we discover how bad we sound live on the air. I'm your host, the great Brian last, and joining me, of course, the star of the drive-thru, Mr. Jim Cornett. Hey, God damn you. You're right, huh.

That was just to perk Brian up, folks. So the host is already apologizing for the performance that he's going to give here today. Has this become a running theme with you and possibly I lately? See, now, I'm not warmed up either. You just jumped right into that. You expect me to take the hand off, catch the pass, run with it, score the touchdown. I'm not even warm. It's cold here in town.

Of course, it could be worse. we could have been in the middle of another hurricane. You know, Brian, from what I've heard, they can control the weather now, so why don't they stop these things? John Stewart had the best line. He said, if Jews could control the weather, why would there be humidity in Florida?

It's the funniest thing ever. There would be, there would potentially be a dome over like, you know, Fort Lauderdale or whatever. The villages, that's one of the retirement communities down there, the villages. It's got its own exit off the interstate.

How do I get involved in that business, the controlling the weather business? It seems like it would be pretty lucrative. Well, but one would think that, you know, you could basically take custom orders for a specific area of the country. Like everybody in Jefferson County, Kentucky, get together and say, hey, we'd like some snow for Christmas. Okay, it'll be $5 million, and everybody chips in $1.74, and there you go. What about when you could really isolate like a specific location?

Like, you know, my ex-girlfriend's getting married. Tornado! I think that would probably be on the dark weather web where you could be punitive with everything rather than a straight business transaction. But yeah, it was cold this morning. And now I went out to the store and I had to put my jacket on because it was in the 40s. And I haven't had my jacket on in a while.

But then by the time I got out of the store The sun was shining It warmed up in the 60s Then I was fucking sweating And I've just remembered I got my long warm pants on still Because I've been in the house Where it's still kind of chilly

And these are the ones that bind me up in my crotch I don't usually podcasting these So if I'm talking a little higher today That's what the problem is That's certainly one of the problems, yes One of the many people I've watched a lot of wrestling. I'm surprised that I haven't been committed to some institution for further study.

We've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous, from the outhouse to the penthouse. We've seen one of the best matches we've seen, and who knows how long had bad blood, and then we have seen some real pips, as Gleason might say, me that's bad television you know what we're going to talk about it today I took a break in the middle of the wrestling and I watched Jeff Baldron recommended it to me the four-part Pete Rose documentary

on HBO or Max whatever it should be whatever it is whatever I'm saying this sucks today I saw some of that I saw some of that actually I saw some of it in real time because Louisville's close enough Cincinnati and I used to go visit

ain't Lola and Uncle Tommy, that I saw some of it actually happen and then I saw some of the other stuff, but go ahead, do continue. Are you able to appreciate when someone outside of wrestling? I know he had some involvement with WWE, but, you know, he wasn't, he didn't give a shit,

he wasn't involved in the wayday, right? I mean, he wasn't anything with wrestling, but when someone outside of wrestling is just a complete worker, do you appreciate that? Yeah, you know, while, I wish that he hadn't, I don't see why the offense was so fucking great that he's one of the greatest players of all time. He didn't physically, you know, commit assault, crimes, you know,

horrible, felonious occurrences. He literally did the one thing they say they'll ban you for doing, he did. But he was, but in, in today's world, if he announced, I'm going to gamblers anonymous because I have a gambler problem and or grapplers anonymous whichever what he wanted to go to and he would be the sympathetic figure because everybody and he was the most popular

motherfucker in Cincinnati and possibly in a state of Ohio and you know amongst baseball fans and blah blah blah one of the great players of all time today he would say me a copa I'm sorry I can't stop doing it because when he got one of the

what was it, WrestleMania 98 Kane tombstoneed him, right? The one in Boston. Yes. Yeah. He got his 10 grand in cash

and gotten his car service wasn't a limo, I don't think, and immediately went to, what is that, Mohegan's son or whatever casino is close up there. Yeah, in Connecticut, Mohegan Sun. That's, you know, that's what he did it for, so it's a shame,

but he didn't do anything horribly heinous that you shouldn't be able to say, again, in today's climate, yeah, you know, I really am sorry that I fucking took a shaleli and beamed that 87-year-old woman in the head. I've got old woman beanitis, and I'm going to rehab or whatever. Well, he did try that rehab thing, and again, he's accused of other things now outside of the gambling, but we'll leave that for a separate conversation. What did it? They say now there's statutory rape accusations that he's,

he had women. What? According to this documentary, he was running cocaine. I mean, it was a lot of, you need to watch this thing. Well, I didn't say, like I said, I saw a little bit of it. But remember, he went when he first got, when he first accepted, when he signed what MLB offered him, which was a lifetime ban, he went to gamblers anonymous, he went to some like place where you have to go to meetings.

Because in the documentary, he said, he goes, I couldn't relate to any of these people. they're all sitting there like, I lost everything, I gambled away everything. He's like, I didn't. I expected to be. But that's the thing. It's the one thing because it compromises the game. And that's what the Black Sox scandal in 1990s all about, Shoeless Joe Jackson and all those other players. And actually, Tim Hornbaker wrote a book about Shoalist Joe Jackson.

Hornbaker wrote the book, wrote the book on the subject, literally. but that was they were actively on the field throwing the fucking game now they're that's Pete Roach was in the clubhouse making bets on his own team's games but did he bet on him to win or lose he says he bet on him to win well he's said a lot of different things over the years and he said a lot of different things again he said he never gambled on baseball then he said he gambled on baseball but never his own team then he said he gotled on baseball but never his own team then he said he gambled on his team but only to win, then he died. So who knows where he was going?

Well, but we know how he was getting there in cash. Just drop me on my head and give me my money. Here's the question. Someone like that who does not get into the Hall of Fame because of ineligibility because they did something that was a grave offense to baseball and then the Hall of Fame literally changed their rules to prevent someone banned from baseball from being in the Hall of Fame. now that he's dead, should he go into the Hall of Fame or should he not go into the Hall of Fame?

What's the goddamn harm again? Well, unless, you know, running cocaine and underage people, I didn't hear about this, but... Unless there's something going on there. You have to watch this. He had this assistant who actually seems like a nice guy who got loaded on steroids

because he was hanging out of Gold's gym. And he was like the assistant who took the rapid went to prison for Pete Rose. And steroids made him go crazy. He said he was a nice guy, and then he started taking the steroids. And next thing you know, he's driving drugs from Ohio to Fort Lauderdale, or the other way around, excuse me, Fort Lauderdale to Ohio. Well, he'd have to come back, wouldn't he?

One way or the other. So technically, you know, unless he was just moving there and staying. So I took a break from the wrestling workers to watch a real-life worker, Pete Rose. well but he has much of my support on the baseball thing and we'll find out more about is everybody gonna goddamn eventually well fuck the fucking well i was about to say fuck the pope but they've already said that not the pope specifically we haven't got any any uh scoops on the pope himself have we just is an administration and underlings it's definitely uh it's definitely an era of kill your idols or at least people just trying to like destroy icons or anything that's

held up or wholly by anyone anywhere. Just there's someone ready to tear it down for their own personal satisfaction and the glory of, you know, feeling like they won something. Not to say Pete Rose doesn't deserve Pete Rose. I mean, you watch this thing. He's just a complete fucking lying. I mean, he's a great ballplay. You want him on your team, of course.

But what a fucking piece of shit. shit the guy is. You got to watch this. Okay, so what year was the height of the betting scandal with Pete Rose? Do you remember? I do remember because the Reds won the World Series in 1990. He got suspended in 89. He was the manager of the Reds. He had retired by that point. He retired in 86, and then he was just the manager. And it was while that period of time as manager. Apparently, he was betting on all sorts of stuff, including baseball before then, but they got him at least for the period of time he was manager, 87, 88. Well, where I was going with that was...

Suspended in 89. At that year, Randy Savage was on, I can't remember, some talk show, some mainstream show, I believe. And the host, you know, just asked him about, was it he plugging WrestleMania coming up or something? Who knows what the fuck? But they said, you think you're going to win the match macho man? And he said, ooh, Pete Rose is betting on. me. It was just the greatest delivery and popped a fucking audience. That was all that anybody

was talking about at that point in time. And then, you know what, he became, not they became more famous, but, you know, almost not getting into the Hall of Fame became bigger than getting into the Hall of Fame. You know what I mean? The Susan Lucie syndrome. Yeah. Well, it's, well, that's a little different. I don't want to compare Pete Rose to Susan Lucci. Well, no, his boobs were bigger when he was older, but... She wasn't ineligible, that's the difference. Well, no, but the thing is, she was known for not winning an Emmy more than for when she finally, after 40 years or whatever, won a fucking Emmy.

So it's the same... He's known more for not being in the Hall of Fame for 40 years, and if they'd put him in a Hall of Fame, then he'd be dusty and forgotten, consigned to the trash bin of history up on a shelf, somewhere in a dusty room. But since he couldn't get in there, he was out in front of everybody, shitting all over everything. You know what Susan Lucci's problem was? She should have gone into local news,

because you could just go into local news and win all sorts of Emmys, non-stop. Like, for all sorts of things. Like, crazy shit, like that isn't even good wins Emmys. Well, I heard about not too many years ago heard about the local TV Emmys. I didn't know that was the thing for quite a while. And then I started talking to people that had, won Emmys and I'm like, God damn, if this guy can win a fucking Emmy.

A friend of mine a few years ago. Well, what was when did you win an Emmy? It's like, well, I was the cameraman. I'm like, what the fuck? They give them to everybody. Well, they may have won an Emmy, but I won a slammy. Ah. Yeah.

Well, we'll have more of Emmy later on during the AEW. Yeah, yes, oh, Emmy. Boy, she's not going to win an Emmy, a Tony, a Grammy of, of, Fucking commie, she's not going to win any. All right. Anyway, I've got something came over the news desk, Brian. I know this is your show, but you may want to say, I got the report right here, and I came over the teletype.

You may want to weigh in on this because this is business-related, and you've got the business mind here. I'm just a small-town bird lawyer. You're a layman in these things. But it's come out recently now in court documentation as a result of Kevin Kelly's lawsuit that is, been filed and the other plaintiffs similarly situated, as they say,

against AEW. Stephen P. New, of course, is handling the charge on that one. But apparently AEW is owned by Maynard G. Krebs? Well, no. Maynard G. Krebs got lost on an island and he was never seen again. Oh, so somebody else is running the company now.

What an idiot. The guy took out an alias and then he went on a boat and he never came back. Fooled no one. Well, you know what the thing is? The Social Security Administration couldn't find him because he didn't have a full name. But anyway, what I'm talking about, for those of you uninitiated... For those of you who don't watch Dobie Gillis. Well, who among us?

Don't watch Dobie Gillis. Seriously. Dwayne Hickman was a goddamn sex symbol Okay, now you're going crazy But anyway Sex symbol Well he was the best looking young man on television in 1959 But Maynard G. Krebs stole the show anyway

What about Cookie Burns? lend me your comb Ed Burns Yes, Ed Cookie Burns K-O-O-K-I-E on 77 Sunset Strip Yeah But anyway

Did you hear my finger snaps I think my sound audio muting is on again filter I kind of heard it a little bit In my head I heard it Yeah see Folks he's trying to filter me Because he said I sounded loud

So we're playing with this thing Anyway what I'm saying is Yeah In this here lawsuit In this documentation It's been filed in court in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania AEW All Elite Wrestling

LLC states that its parent corporation is Beatnik Investments LLC and do we have to ask the kids to Google the word beatnik and this is spelled B-E-A-T Yeah, Dadio. Yeah, N-I-C-K

but actually the way you spell beatnik I believe is just NIC. The true beatniks. But nevertheless, kids Google the word beatnik but they were the hippies of the 50s.

And or watch a little shop of horrors. What? The original. No, seriously. That came out of nowhere. What? It's set in the beatnik world.

I guess, I guess if that's the best example you can think of on film? Well, it's, I like it. Anyway, why are they beatniks, Brian? Who and the Khan family are beatniks to own not Beatnik Enterprise and Beatnik Investments LLC? Well, it's an interesting thing here, and I'm trying to pull up an article or two or three. I'm trying to see what I can pull up.

There's all sorts of things to pull up here. Well, why don't you pull on up and let me just say this. It also revealed, here's another detail while you're pulling on, whatever you're pulling on. It says the parent company of all elite wrestling is Beatnik investments and no publicly held corporation

owns 10% or more of its stock. That's not a revelation in terms of you know, we were wondering about Turner Broadcasting or WBD's involvement but if they get a percentage of revenue through their deals,

that wouldn't necessarily mean they own stock, but you're the business guy, help me out. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Well, I have here, Russellnomics did a pretty good write-up of the lawsuit. Again, we've talked about it in previous clips. They're on YouTube. For instance, right here,

a Jacksonville local media report from 2022 indicated that Beatnik investments was used by Shad Khan, the billionaire owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars and father of Tony and Shana to invest over 76 million in the Black News Channel. Beatnik owned them... Now what? Well, let me finish this.

Beatnik owned the majority of the channel until it was sold to media businessman Byron Allen following Chapter 11 bankruptcy. So there was... was a black news channel, either he started it or Shad Khan was an investor in it, but actually the investor was Beatnik Investments, and according to what Russellnomics has here, Florida public records confirm that Beatnik Investments is an active limited liability company in Florida, established in 2017. The authorized members are Tony Khan and his sister Shanna Khan. While Thomas Clarkson is listed as

an authorized representative, though his exact role remains unclear, he may be a financial manager. Also, Chris Jericho just trademark Thomas Clarkson. A.W. LLC, all-leet wrestling LLC, actually, to be exact, is also incorporated in Delaware and recognizes Beatnik Investments LLC as its parent company. So, less than 10%, so they don't have to disclose, again, they don't to disclose anything with that. But it's a company that's in the name of Tony and his sister that's been used

by their father who, in the past as admitted, his whole thing is just to give the kids all the money right now, let them have their inheritance and have their fun and buy their wrestlers or whatever it may be. It was used for their benefit. So they spent $76 million. Why I gasp is, I thought you were

going to say black entertainment television, B-E-T, or I've never heard of Black News Channel. So apparently there's a reason they went bankrupt after spending $76 million. Well, I'm pulling up something right now. Black News Channel BNC was an American paid television news channel targeting the African American demographic. The channel was based in Tallahassee, Florida, and launched on February 10, 2020. The station was co-founded by television executive Bob Brodell.

Relante and former congressman J.C. Watts, who was also the network's chairman. The network filed for bankruptcy in March of 2022 and was purchased by Byron Allen's Entertainment Studios. It was merged into the Griot. Trying to see where Shad Khan or Beatnik, is he the beatnik? Or are they the beatniks? I'm not. Well, they are too young to be Beatniks, but I didn't know if Shad didn't appear to be a beatnik when he had the goddamn flourishing mustache and everything. He appeared to be a very well-groomed fellow. Should they bring in Nick Nemeth

as beatnik? Like if you were a hologram or something? Well now here's a good good job guy fucking knock by the way. But the launch of one more thing. The launch of the network was announced in November 2018 for 2019. The launch date was pushed. from November 15th, 2019 to January 6th, 2020, before being pushed again to its eventual launch date, February 10th, 2020. One of the chief investors in the network is Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan.

In July 2020, former CNN executive Princelle Hare was named President and CEO of Black News Channel. In March 2021, BNC reached an agreement with CBS Media Ventures to handle advertising sales. That same month, they launched a revamp, and then between December 2021 and March 2022, over 120 members of the network staff were either dismissed,

or voluntarily departed from BNC. During the network's first two years of operation, BNC suffered persistently low viewership, according to Nielsen estimates. In 2021, oh my God. In 2021, the network ranked 123 out of 124 cable original. Oh, good God.

Wow. But who was 124? An average viewership of 4,000 viewers per program. In the entire country? In the entire world, I guess. Technically. Oh, geez. But I've runned by cable, the entire country. Well, so, but nevertheless,

what I was about to go with there, Before we found out how much money they lost on shit before, was that some people are saying this implies that WBD might not, it doesn't have, has less than 10% of AEW if it has some, and we've pretty well figured out it has some arrangement, some deal, some piece of, as you say in wrestling. But would there be an exchange of stock, or would it be the agreements of splitting advertising revenue,

pay-per-view revenue, whatever the fuck. Because we talked about that as if they're more involved in the paperviews and they're going to be given discounts for those and et cetera, is it just as simple as, yeah, we get, like in the old days, If you went to the TV station in Pittsburgh and said, I'm going to run a civic arena, and if you'll put my TV show on, then I'll give you 10% of the gate.

Because that was a deal that was done in wrestling for years and years on a much larger and more complicated scale. Would there necessarily be ownership of the company itself? Because then would that introduce Warner Brothers discovery into liability if they ever get sued because somebody breaks their neck or they land on some fan. Without ownership, they would be much less tied legally to an upstart wrestling promotion started by a bunch of beatniks. You see where I'm going with this?

Yeah, and again, their interests could also just be whatever you do while you're working with us, we have a piece of. And that's significant. and that's, you know, not they own AEW, AEW according to this. You know, at a minimum 90% is owned by the Beatniks. Beatnik Investments LLC. What else is Beatnik investments invested in? That's what I'd like to know.

What does Tony think about being partners with his sister? There's an angle we've never heard before. Shad Khan doesn't actually, isn't listed as one of the people in charge of Beatnik or a beneficiary of Beatnik, he has just supplied it with capital. It's all about Tony and his sister and whoever this financial advisor is or financial whatever he is.

Well, maybe he's Cadbury. Keep an eye on the kids. Please, keep an eye on the kids, Thomas. But here's the thing, maybe it's just, here this entity, Beatnik Enterprises or Beatnik Investments, LLC, is the entity that we've got set up and here's my

corporate bean counter old Thomas Clarkson over here he's going to make sure y'all don't do anything fucking too illegal or insane and too far and I'll put the money in it for oh was his sister's name Shana you want to invest in the news channel or you know Tony you want to do the wrestling I'll put the money in there and you get and Thomas will

you know, make sure it all works. Is that the deal? I don't know. That's the question. Well, maybe this suit will be bringing more of that to light in a public fashion like this in filings from the court when they delve into the independent contractor status of versus employee and working conditions. I've been made to understand. I still don't understand it, but I've been. made aware that most people

think that the working conditions in a wrestling promotion today are somewhat behind the times barbaric or technically illegal with the laws of the land and they weren't even around 40 or 50 years ago their heads would have burst into flames so I would like to see

with that old Carlin routine I want to see mayhem and chaos and disaster and catastrophe I want to see people running down the street with their heads on fire and being hit by buses. I want to see a bunch of this shit come out in court so we can talk about it and have some fun instead of goddamn watching all these TV shows. Hey, I just looked it up, Flexingate, the Shad Khan company, the patent that makes them all the money. Yes, the bumper.

He's the bumper magnate. Well, Tony's done a few bumps in his life from what I understand. But Flexingate Plastics Corporation, the art. officers listed here are Shad Khan and Thomas Clarkson. Son of, I'm telling you. The secretary for the company. Not, not as secretary like an assistant, but and the corporate standard. Like the corporate secretary or secretary of the, yes.

Well, there you got, Thomas E. Clarkson. No, D, it's a D. No, not anymore. It's not. So Thomas E. Clarkson, he's the guy that if anything, ever goes down, he's the one that knows where all of the money is buried. Is he the beatnik? He's the beatnik.

He is the beatnik. Cuckoochoo. Listen, Tony, you've spit money out of pocket all these years. Now we're approaching bankruptcy real quick. For whatever reason, you've sang I Am the Walrus in various forms, like on at least three or four episodes recently. Well, that's because I'm, you know, You listening to the Beatles?

You listen to the magical mystery tour? No, somebody's got to take care of the walrus, the walruses, the walri. It's there very under, when's the last time you saw a commercial on TV, urging people to give money to take care of the walruses aside? You know, they're an underappreciated species. It's approaching bankruptcy. All right. Where were we going with that?

This is your show? No, it's not. That's the thing about it. It's completely your fault. But to put a period on all this, we got to keep track of all this to see what comes out in court and the inner workings of all these things. And what did Thomas Clarkson have to do with Pete Rose? That's another question that has not been asked yet or answer.

No. And we need to get somebody under oath and possibly get Stephen P. New on the case. If Stephen P. New gets to depose Thomas E. Clarkson about the Pete Rose scandal, a lot of things will be brought to. light. And by the way, folks, just in case you wondered, you can contact the incomparable Stephen Pete New at newlawoffice.com, 87750 Steve, because when he's not busy slapping weasels around sideways and shaking him for change and deposing corporate secretaries about where Pete Rose hit all that money, that he is actively working to bring justice.

to your situation, whatever it may. As long as you're on the right side, if you're guilty, he's going to tell you to fuck off because he's that kind of attorney, the rare breed, Stephen P. New 87750, Steve. But go ahead, Brian, it's your show.

That's right, the rare breed, Stephen P. New Law Office.com. Jim, a lot to go over, a lot of wrestling to review. We're going to get some questions in and who knows what else. Why ask you a quick question here at the start? You know, right now the Mets...

Oh, Jesus. Listen, hear me out. The Mets, the wonderful miracle Mets, are in the playoffs. They're about to go to the championship series. This has all been great for us, as Mets fans. If they win the championship series,

they go to the World Series. They win that. They're the champions. They go to the moon, Alice. They're the champions. The season's over. That's it. Now we have to wait for next season,

hope that the team could do something again. We're waiting for, like, we're waiting, we're hoping that that's how it works out. That's what I'm doing. I'm waiting and hoping this works out. AEW's talent, Tony, their fan-based are, you know, most hardcore fans, were hoping that this media rights deal would come

and it would be a big increase and it'd be able to show something. And they got a lot of what they wanted. Yes. a lot of us acknowledged they were going to get a renewal, but they want to pretend like we were, you know, they're going to be canceled tomorrow. But as I said, I think on the last show,

we've pretty much established the bar is set low enough that even this programming can find a home on television when its owner is rich enough. Go ahead. Well, how low things are going to go is kind of my question. Their World Series was getting that media rights deal. And now they got it. and the spirit just, I mean, again, it was a weird show,

and we'll get to reviewing the whole show, but just talking about everything overall right now. You know, it was a dynamite on a Tuesday at a weird hour, and the lineup was fucking bizarre for a go-home show. Oh, it was a show encouraging people to go home all right, but... But now that you got the media rights deal, are there going to be a lot of big wins in the near future? There are going to be a lot of big things to rally behind,

are there going to be a lot of things that, you know, because there hasn't been any, the media rights deal coincided with everything going down, everything, and that hasn't stopped. There aren't signs that it will stop yet, and Tony's booking hasn't shown any signs that it will ever improve. Are there going to be a lot of big moments for AW to cheer over the next year or two as they have their media rights deal and as things continue to transpire? okay and I know some people are going to say they're going to get a show on Fox and I think they're on on Fox by the way for a shoot have you heard AEW is on Fox in Mexico in Mexico yes watch out Paco Alonzo they're coming for you baby well they've got you know most of the same style of talent but nevertheless um I'm saying you know as we've talked about FS1 or whatever

if they've got another show, but then they have to produce another show. Yes, they're dropping Rampage, but somebody should have long before now. Even they have quit caring about Rampage. So how much programming can they produce? But the point is, this is the big rights deal.

Wherever they go from here, I don't believe, is going to be as big or bigger than this. So that news has been given. What they're going to be doing now pretty much to me to anytime they make one of their major in their world

major news breaks is signing somebody and now that he's been willing to spend this much money up until this point right so now that they're going to give him more money he know he's going to you've been saying this he's going to turn around spend more money

on signing people for however much he needs to pay them to get them. And so then it's going to be the big news, the big event, and then, of course, as we've seen anybody from Mercedes Moon to O'Codee to whoever they've signed, that remember when Soraya

was going to be the turnaround of the women's division. And then everybody turned around and said, fuck you. But they only last a week or two or three or four. Osprey stayed pretty good because he's a wonderful young, you know, tousle-haired fellow. But most of them,

after, so I think that's what they're going to make news with their fans with is big signings from here on out. But what's going to happen to all those people? And he's already got all these people. And you don't ever see half of these people. again, 290 people over two years. Yeah, from the other court documentation. That's a lot of people.

There's a lot of wrestlers to pay, mouths to feed. But the point is, when you're getting a deal like that, you know that there's times, do you see any of these guys going out and working a lot of independence? And I'm not talking about the... the main event guys who shouldn't be that shouldn't be risking their health and they're at this stage of the game or with their age or because of their importance to the company

but I'm talking about the middle card and under guys that you don't see wrestling on these television shows ever they hide them on rampage or just they don't work for long stretches I know some are injured or whatever But a lot of other ones have to be just sitting around going, well, I'm just, I'm getting paid to exorbitant amount of money. Why fucking bother? See, WWE fans know right now they have a bunch of things to look forward to the Sina

retirement tour, WrestleMania, the buildup to that. Rock has two natural feuds. Either they're going to each get a separate runner, they're going to jam everyone together in a three-way match to give Rock a chance to breathe. He's very, very muscular for his age. AEW, that's what I'm saying. I thought you were going to say he's very, very short of breath. AEW, that's the problem.

They could sign WWE guys, and I hate to say it. I mean, it sounds crazy, but at this point, the best thing for them is kind of the Eric Bischoff-Nitro philosophy. Sign everyone you can. Just bring all of their stars over here. The trick is you've got to develop your own stars at some point. They never can. They never do.

We'll talk about Dan. Garcia later, boy, if that's what they're developing, there isn't a lot to look forward to in the future for an audience that if you just go on live attendance keeps going down, very rarely. I think Pittsburgh was the only market they went up in. Everything else is just down, down, down, down, down. They're about to go to Max. They have the chance to reach new people. But again, once you get people in the door, you have to hope that they'll want to come back.

if they give them something they want. With AEW, so much of it from the beginning has been fans willing it to be. They rooted for the concept, the idea. They're against Vince. W.W.E. is the enemy. Things changed since then. What do they really have to root for now? Well, here's another thing that they've got working against him that Bischoff didn't have

was Vince is not in charge anymore. and in 1997, 98, Vince was just figuring out, he would start talking to guys about contracts, you know, three months, right? And if that, and sometimes believe people, whatever, these people, if you're a year and a half away from being done, I believe in some cases they talk to people. They're not going to let that many people that they give to, shits whether they have or not become available because the fewer that they give them that

unless they just don't want somebody at all, the less chance that Tony has to raise the salary structure by trying to offer so and so and such and such, you know, $15 million or whatever. It's also the legends. I think that's one of those things at the big events where we've seen that have, you know, legends playing musical chairs that are there. and then they disappear, we don't know where they go. You know, if they're signing legends deals or whatever they're doing with WW,

that means these are people that AEW, not that they're really using legends, but it just takes more people off the board. Women, not that they're using legends. Geez, Jake came out and stood there. Let's talk about Jake when we get to the title by review. I know, but I'm just, have you ever seen a more legendary guy standing there?

That's the point. They didn't use a legend. They had a legend stand there. That's different that using them or having them do anything. But I saw him stand in there. Well, Jake looked at me, and I couldn't believe that they paid him to show up and do this. You know, even the Goldberg thing with Gunther, if it goes nowhere, you know, they did something with Goldberg that stood out on that event. There's another guy just off the board for Tony.

Yes, and yes, the new regime established a little relationship with Goldberg. I'm sure they had conversations. Again, I don't believe we're going to be seeing Gunther and Goldberg, but we might see more of Goldberg, whether it's a match or not. And that's, again, they're trying to get all of the names, not only people that were big names for the WWE, but also that are names in the catalogs that they own. WCW and ECW and ECW and whatever the fuck.

More to come. If you're a celebrity right now and you just want really great tickets and the ability to maybe even do an angle, just say you're a big wrestling fan. Yes. And they'll use you to the best of their abilities. Or AEW will use you to the worst of their abilities. But you still get on the wrestling show. Good Lord.

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I got to see a lot of it. Unfortunately, I had a DVR. issue and I did not get to see anything after the point where I actually watched it live, but let's talk about WWROL. That is perfectly as clear as mud, but don't, just kid, just, you start and when you fuck it up bad enough, tag me in, and I'll straighten it out. That's what Murdoch used to tell people whenever his tag team partner. Anyway, no, I'll tell you, I, first of all, I've got to say, they were, they were in

St. Louis, Missouri, two nights in a row. We've been talking about they were going to be in St. Louis for NXT, but they had the, they did the big building in St. Louis for Raw and then did the factory, which is a, we'll talk about the look, but a smaller place there in St. Louis on Tuesday for NXT. And now in retrospect, since I've seen both programs, I know that we were graced on both of those episodes with the presence of someone. referred to as sexy red. And there was some false advertising involved in the sexy part of that,

at the very least. And this individual is a recording artist of apparently some repute, possibly some ill repute. I know that at least what she did on NXT, she makes Mercedes Moon look like, Merrill Streep but is she I can understand

if she's a St. Louis personality right? Because there's some various odd personalities all over the country and various they were a judge

auto dealer. They knew who he was in Knoxville because of the TV commercials but you wouldn't put Judge Auto dealer on raw even if it was being shot in Knoxville. would you?

Are we supposed to know who this individual sexy red is? Has she accomplished something? A large part of the audience, I guess, does. I'm guessing maybe she's local, like you said, was neither sexy nor red. But, yeah, WWE, you know, this is what they've been doing now. This is what they do. What?

Put the average, if the average person off the street, because they are from St. Louis. Now it gets to walk into the ring and just, I'm on TV. All you need is some fans from outside of wrestling, and they think you're a big one. If you put sexy red in the middle of Times Square trying to hail a taxi, would anybody turn their head and look

and know, oh, sexy red? Well, it's hard to get any taxis in Times Square. They really limit traffic now with all the places for people to walk around and be harassed by Elmo. You got me there. All righty, so anyway, sexy red, it was quick. There's more of her on NXT. We'll come back to her.

And quickly, they went into a cold open recap of bad blood, in and up with the Helen-a-Cell classic, that we have referred to already on the previous program. And then, Al-a-Muselini! Oh, God. Oh, God. Yeah, you never sounded worse.

You never sounded worse. than you just did. I was really on the note there, on the note there. What note? What note? That note of Lachemuselady. Eating an emo's. I said, I got to talk about emo's pizza.

They were in St. Louis. No, and here came punk. And he limped out to the entranceway. His arm was bandaged up and his hand was bandaged up and his head had a bandage on it. And there was a cut on his cheek with the butterfly gimmick. can if I would have blacked his eye if I'd have been back there not I'm not talking about with makeup or your fist well would not not don't say makeup it's like so demeaning I would

Steiner would punch each other in the eye well no I would have special effect a special affected his eye and you wouldn't have been able to tell but anyway he got a big see him punk chant and he's he's standing there and he ain't going to the ring and he's got the game face on and his opening line, is it good to be not dead in St. Louis on a Monday night or what? But he's not happy, he's not over the top, he's selling this shit. And did you see the random pyro fucking deal go off or some spot? Light burned out or something? Did you say, was anything referred to it?

Yeah. Well, right on, they had a close-up, probably handheld camera shot, of him as he's doing the interview, but right to the right of the screen, you see a flash. And I think either some misdirected pyro went off or maybe a one of those spot can, spotlights, they got whatever flamed out.

And it went off and he joked. He said, yeah, after what I've been through, if you were going to set me on fire, now's the time. But anyway, he did the fucking promo that he should have done after a match like that to sell it. And that's what was so refreshing because for a lot of these nitwits,

you know, they get run over by a steamroller or crashed into by a fucking city bus and the next week they're on TV doing have a coronas off the top row. And so he looked like he had had the shit beat out of him. And he was talking seriously and the whole tone of the

of the promo was I don't know what the future holds it hurts the smile but I just I had to come here and see you guys I'm alive but I don't feel like it and you know he'd bring up again how banged he was aside I just

I don't know he's teasing the end right but he thanked three groups of people he thanked his fans of people that love him he thanked his peers, most of them, and he thanked the people who hate him for whatever reason, jealousy or resentment, because he turned their hate into cash,

and now he's heading home, and he doesn't know when he's going to be back. And that was a very straightforward baby-faced thing again. We know John Wayne is a fucking actor. He didn't really shoot all them Indians. But he didn't... Get up and pat him on the back and dust them off on screen, right? For the television product and for what they promised and what they performed

and what they were selling and the whole nine yards, this is the kind of shit you ought to fucking do. Am I wrong? They never do this. You've said that a lot, or you, we've all said that a lot during this punk run. Here's something they never do that they should and he did it and it made sense. This was great. even see, Drew, you know, here?

Well, yeah, because he's the heel. See, if he's out of sight for a little while, licking his wounds, and because he lost, but he comes back and does something, remember, off in another direction. But one of the great things about the way things are right now under Triple H, and the way things have been and the way things seem to be going, someone like punk, who's a major star, and someone who moves merch and causes people to be interested in everything he's doing, you can kind of give him time off. Yeah. You're not going to be hurt as a company right now.

If CM Punk took a couple of months until the Royal Rumble or something and then came back fresh again. If he left before he was stale. I'm not saying this is what they're going to do, but it's one of the benefits of WWE right now. There's no one. There's really no one who can't be slotted out to have time to refresh their blood and then brought back in.

and it makes sense for wrestling to have that. It's an unofficial offseason. It's an offseason because it makes sense. But it can rotate so everybody's not off at the same time. Rollins is just off for what, three months, two months? I think not even that long. Yeah. But that's the thing is some of the top guys are not as young as they used to be.

That's why they've had time to become top guys. and also you don't want if if your main event fucking guy the top guy in a company was 25 years old still you don't want him wrestling on TV every week and you don't want him talking on TV every week

because then they become more of one of the boys or you're just putting them out there because you have to it's the opposite of with Tony Khan where people are there intermittently here and gone before they get over or they're pushed down your throat and then you don't see them for six months or whatever, they're weaving these people like in Eddie Graham type of situation.

And Dusty used to do into Carolinas where there are multiple opponents that a lot of these top guys could have. Wouldn't have been out express were World Tag Team champions. You could advertise us against the Road Warriors, us against the Rocker Roll Express, us against Dusty and Magnum, and us against... Ronnie Garvin and Wahoo McDaniel in 1986, and there was all television to back it up. And so, and what they did with this interview

is as soon as punk said that, I'm going home, buy flowers for my wife, don't know when I'll be back. Boom, Seth Franklin Rollins' music hits. And out he comes, and they come face-to-face, because they're both baby faces, but they still have an issue. And so now Seth has been gone, but now Punk has gone.

So there's another match they can come back to in six fucking months if they wanted to. That could be WrestleMania, those two. You know, but that's what I'm saying is that everybody that is established doesn't have to be on TV every week because there's so many of them, whether it's Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes and C.M. Punk, and Drew McIntyre and Seth Rollins and Gunther and Orton and J. Uso and Yeat. And I mean, it's on and on. And Logan Paul, wherever the fuck he may be.

And more, more, more. And here comes Sina. So, yeah, they're in a wonderful place where they can just cycle these guys in and out because they don't even need all these stars on the same show. or for a pay-per-view or on the you know the two shows where they have split rosters but people are back and forth anyway and Owens I forgot about

and Jimmy Uso's back anyway and Seth was more serious here too when he came to the ring he was wearing pleather pants at a bulletproof vest but he was all in black and he you know the snide remark

to punk, get well soon so I can end your career once and for all. And then the gist of his promo was that he's back to destroy Bronson Reed, who there's another guy that they've gotten over tremendously. But Bronson Reed wasn't here tonight, or wasn't here tonight. He said Bronson Reed is not here tonight. I dangled my participle. But he did a serious promo on Reed, and it was good because he was good because he was He was still doing his

whatever it is he does, the revolutionary, reactionary, imaginary, I don't know what the fuck, but it was more serious. He looked in the camera and he's good when he does that. And then he challenged read one-on-one any time and it plays that it well, baby. And then that was his little skit before we move on.

What did you think of our friend Seth Franklin this week? I thought it was good when he was serious. Like you said, it stood out when he stared into the camera because that's the way he should be treating the Bronson-Reed situation, not coming out there and telling jokes. No, that has to go, especially in this kind of situation. And there you have something for Survivor series, I guess. Him and Bronson-Reed.

I'm interested in that now. They've got me interested in Bronson-Reed. Well, see, that's the thing. Now, that's what I want to see is Bronson-Reed, the human bowling ball against the fucking athletic guy that he can also fling far in the air instead of the

you know the fucking Volkswagen against the goddamn bus or whatever but anyway but then at that point as soon as he did that here Jay Usos music plays and here he yeats and there's the waving

and the yeating about and Seth is just staring at him but when Jay gets to ring Seth looks at him and walks out and Jay continues yeating and everybody yeats at him but I'm like, fuck, they play the music here comes punk and then they play the music here comes

Rollins and they play the music here comes yeat. I'm like, Jesus Christ, we're fixing me like 25 minutes into the wrestling show, they're in the goddamn liquor wrestling, right? And it's better that way. And then did you watch the first match for the Intercontinental Championship belt title?

I couldn't. I hate Jay Uso. So, I mean, I shouldn't say I hate him. But he's become so annoying to me. As he's gotten over to everyone else with his catchphrase and everything else, he's become really annoying to me. So I didn't watch it. Well, and also it was a, I will, I will fill you in briefly, because at least we don't have three hours on this one.

But Jay Uso and Xavier Woods for the Intercontinental Title, and they've been doing a deal where Xavier is a young man with a very, their bad attitude. His attitude has been very bad. And he was mad about Odyssey Jones until they got mad at Odyssey Jones. And an Odyssey Jones went on his Odyssey. Never to be heard from again. But he's still somewhat prickly about his partner, Kofi, and these other people that he's

interacting with is Xavier Woods. So, you know, did we ever hear anything else about Odyssey Jones, about what happened? No. I think there's been a gag order. Every time people started talking about him, other people started gagging, so they just quit. So, but what they did here was right, they yeeded to break after Yeats' entrance, and then when they yeated back, they had Xavier Woods's entrance and the ring introductions, they ring the bell and start to match, and they went to break in like 45 fucking seconds. and what you were talking about I've mentioned this but I'm not against

a preposterous gimmick getting over with the yeat or whatever what's bugging me is Jay Uso's work has gotten sloppier and sloppier and sloppier in the ring it doesn't have to be sloppy he can hot dog and not

make the doggery look fucking stupid and make the heel feel you know like an idiot and yes certain things are over Dusty's fucking triple elbow atomic elbow to the head of the horseman was over

but he would do it quick enough where they didn't have to just stand there and stare at him going into convulsions and doing a shimmy and looking like a goddamn snake coming out of the fucking thing over in India with them there may have been a couple of times where Dusty took his time.

Well, then sometimes it was, they were pissed about it. The heels were. Because I remember, I visualized in my head, orange was kind of bent over, selling, waiting for it to come. But this is just all of attention on his one guy. You have to stand there. I mean, it's, the point is with the punches,

which are bleh looking. You could throw the first three. Boom, boom, boom, boom. So the guy can sell, sell, sell, sell, and then do your wind up and swing, boom. But he goes, boom, and then he'll look at his hand, and he'll spit on it, and you'll go up, and then boom, and the guy is in between boom and boom, the fucking poor opponent is standing there going, no one would wind his ass or scratch his watch,

and it just looks hokey. But nevertheless, that's, you know, Jay Uso is remarkably over, but he needs to work on getting, not only being a hot dog but also the quality of his matches where when he's selling, it's like you've got legitimate sympathy rather than, oh, I just want him to get up

and start yeating again. And to take the people on the whole fucking excursion, you know, you need to be able to hook them in a little better than just, eh, you know, tighten that shit up son that's what the old timers would have told him you got a you're got a bird's nest on the ground here you're over you're farting through silk archie belt on the drills yeah keep up with the goddamn you know the rest of the roster is is really there's not a lot of stinkers in at the upper echelon in this company as there has sometimes been in the past you know the thing

that j uso i thought was excelling at and he did excel at were the dramatic segments in the bloodline, where he sold things with his face, what his emotion, with his body language, everything he did, he was great in those. Yeah. We don't have that anymore. Now we have the same work.

You say it's sloppier. I mean, you know, again, it's always been, it's always been what it is. But now we don't have those amazing dramatic. Now we just have, you know, him leading the crowd sing along. And there's a place for that. And WWE's probably smart for riding this

as long as they can. But eventually, hopefully he does something else. Well, and see, that's what I'm saying, is I want him to, and also he doesn't seem, he doesn't seem comfortable with the interviews, with him as a solo guy, that's why he's got the yeats, so he can just say a couple of words real quick,

and they'll, you know, fan interaction with him. But he, he's breathing like that. you can tell he's tense when he goes out there now. Because before he was an ensemble player, now the spotlight is on him as he does the one-man show. And the sunglasses with yee across him and the fucking haircut and the goddamn outfit. And he's trying to gimmick himself up

because I think he, that spotlight's bright on him right now. He's a little nervous about it. I don't know. That's just what I'm attempting to see from television. But he won. And what happened on Xavier Woods?

Anything? Yes, he won. Oh, he won? No, no, Jay Uso won. What happened with Xavier Woods? Jay Uso won. One, two, three with a splash off the top, and then he shook his hand,

or shook Kofi's hand, and hugged Kofi, and then he tried to shake Xavier's hand, and Xavier, as the announcer said, cold-shouldered him, and walked right off on him, right? And so there goes Xavier and Kofi, and Kofi's like, hey, man, and then all of a sudden, here come, Bronbreaker.

And Bronbreaker came in there and speared the fuck out of fucking Jay Uso. And last week, and I can't remember if we even talked about this, but Braun Breaker had come out in the ring with Uso and had given this somber speech about, I just want you to know I respect you. You know, you were the better man that night. He shook his hand. And he walked out without attacking him.

And they were like, what the, now they're going to fuck Bronbreaker up. But it was all a ruse, a charade, as they say. Because howdy, he speared Uso. And then

Coffey was like, we got to help, and Coffey goes in, and he gets speared, and then Woods is still out on the floor, like, I'm not helping the fucking guy, and Braun ran around the floor and speared Woods on the floor. It didn't got in the ring and speared Uso again. And then held Intercontinental Title Belt up, and then threw it on top of Jay Uso, and I say again, Braun Breaker is the future of wrestling. this guy is fucking tremendous.

And if he beats Jay Uso now, how much more over will he be as a heel? Well, and, you know, because I was kind of upset that they took it off him that quick as they did, but this is set up to where, is he going to win it back? We're asking questions. We've got to find out now. But what a fucking superstar. That's why I wanted to. see seven to ten more of them in

NXT is what I wanted to see. Where are you supposed to get them from? Where are you supposed to get them? The brawn breakers. We're just to get them. The Steiner's were virile people. Can we just do some random DNA tests around the southeast?

See if we could net, you know, between the two of them, six or eight more? You know, I just saw a picture actually of Scott Steiner's son. I guess he's playing college football, but he was wearing his dad's metal headgear, whatever it was when he was big pop-a-pump. He's a big kid.

He's a big motherfucker. You know, what are you going to do after football? You got to go into the family business. There you go. So anyway. Oh. I think they, at the very least open up Bob Evans. Well, Jim, before we move on, you know, after watching the J. Uso segments, I've just, you know, I get exhausted almost.

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Raw, Raw rolls on. Well, I'm going to combine a couple of things here because they happened on either side of the next match but they had pertinent implications toward each other. The deal with Cody and Kevin Owens getting to fight in the parking lot

after bad blood that they shot with the fan cameras and, you know, let go viral and et cetera. And we talked about this on the last show. This could never have been done before it. I love it. It is great, but now everybody is their own TV station. So what they're doing, they acknowledge that they had the announcers.

Old Joe Pepitone. No, Joe Tessitori. That's it. That's it. Joe, that's Amory. And Wade Barrett. Huh? Was it Wade Barrett?

Is he the one? Is it Wade Barrett? Is it Wade Barrett? Or is it? Well, I think it is. But anyway, he's a good-looking young man. They acknowledged the incident. And basically, they had no other comments.

They're like playing it straight in case there's, you know, they didn't say this, but it sounded like in case there's some kind of legal shit out of this. But they acknowledged the comments that Triple H made on Twitter. We are aware of the incident and the mass. will be dealt with internally. And so they didn't even show the footage. So they're letting people, you know, perceive at least for a little while, hey, this is something we didn't plan and we're not promoting it.

And then when Cody later on is in the back being interviewed, he's like, well, I'm sure you're going to hear more about what happened at Bad Blood on SmackDown. I'm just here to see about this crown jewel thing. So he's not, you know, he's playing off the thing with Kevin Owens and not even mentioning his name and not talking about it. What do you think about that? I think since they don't have to now, everything they've got again is so over,

they don't have to hot shot this angle. They can let people start talking about it and then reveal pieces as they go. It's been done really well. It was all teased with the Kevin Owen stuff for a few weeks on Smackdown, and then it just kind of happened off air, and it's been done perfectly. It reminds me of something you did, although you didn't have the benefits of Twitter or technology or fans with smartphones. I don't know if you can say benefit and Twitter in the same sentence. Go ahead.

When you did the thrill seekers getting jumped by the masked men who were the heavenly bodies, and it was actually fan footage. Now, you couldn't have real fans there doing it because there was no Twitter to send the footage to and there was no smartphones, but you try to utilize something like this. Yeah, and I like the security camera footage thing also that, you know, started becoming a thing in the early 90s,

you know, when cops and all that type of thing. And that's a way to, because before you had to justify if this was real, why would a camera be, be there. But now, there's a fucking camera everywhere, whether it's cell phone cameras, security cameras, traffic cameras, fucking doorbell cameras. So it's easier now to kind of change the up the way you present things, but it's the same gist, the same flavor, trying to make it legitimate. But anyway, so Cody was back there saying that, but then Sammy walks in and you know he's hey we got to talk about it all because him and owen's right they kind of blew that off real quick

but uh he tells cody that i just want you to know i'm going to be the one that you're going to be facing at crown jewel the champion versus champion for the new championship deal uh but like i said you know if he if you want to talk about what happened and cody cut him off we don't have to do that here And he wished Sammy good luck in a genuine fashion against Gunther. I'm going to look forward to it, old friend. Sounded like a lone ranger there. So, again, you know, they had to have Sammy try to say something

because of their involvement, him and Owens. And they tied it up real succinctly without having to reveal anything. But anyway, in the middle of that, they had. had the old-fashioned Donnie Brook match between Seamus and Pete Dunn. And right now, I don't know which I liked better when he was the little Dickensian street urchin asking for more gruel. Or now that he's, you know, five foot six working with a guy that's a foot taller and fucking 80 pounds heavier and is the, you know, indestructible bruiser, Pete Dunn.

done. But what part of the stage dressing did you like about this match? The whiskey barrels that surrounded the ring, the shalely that one guy had, the cricket bat that the other guy had, the bar set up over next to the announcers, and boy, if I'd have been one of the announcers, I could have used a drink about this point. Why do they have, everything is so made to look so campy when they do sets like this, right? We just saw a hell in a cell match that they pulled out toolboxes and shit that you would have underneath the goddamn steel structure and they whacked each other with wrenches.

But here this looks like a game show set. Remember what was it, Treasure Island? In the 70s, they used to put these fucking goofy marks that were contestants on the show in a boat and float them around a goddamn river apparatus to see if they could grab the treasure and they'd fall into water. I never saw this. Oh, it was goddamn, I don't know if that was it, Treasure Island, but there was one of the fans, the cult of Corvette can give us more information. But the point is, it looks so ridiculous, doesn't it? That it's so obviously, they're not real bearers.

We have constructed all of this for this set of this thing where these contestants are going to go through a simulated fucking combat for your entertainment. It's just too over the top for you to be able to get lost in it and take it seriously. It's just visually ridiculous. Have I made my point?

So you liked it? Oh yeah, I loved it. I thought it was the best match of the night. It's always weird when a feud you don't care about suddenly gets elevated, the street fight stratus. Street fight status. She was the referee. I'll have you know.

I would have watched maybe. No, I didn't see this match. Well, I'm not a big Pete Dunn fan. I know there's people that really are, the bruiserweight. I liked him as Butch. I feel weird saying because everyone thinks that's like a Vince McMahon thing that sucks, but it kind of worked. I see him as, you know, from the set of Oliver or something.

Well, I think it's just too late to understand. see it. I don't know. He has it. He has an odd off-putting face. His face is oddly put together, somewhat like a ransom note. And Jesus.

He just, it just has a look that it's, is that the human species or is there some missing chromosome along the way? Was he possibly the piltdown man's descendant? You think he's missing a chromosome? I don't know what's going on.

But, what about? But, What about his hair? What do you think of his hair? His hair is not very well kemped. And if I was him, I would get some conditioner. How do you like his gear? Gear looks all right, but you'd need to have a better body to put in it,

or a larger body, a bigger body. All right, we'll find other things to talk about next week. His accent is somewhat... I did see pictures on social media, Shamus's back after the match, and he looks like he got the Michael Faye. treatment. Well, yeah, and that's another thing is, you know, I don't know if I'd, well, I guess Seamus is trying to do anything he can to stay over because, boy, the upper echelon has gotten

more crowded. And I know he's always been a triple-H favorite, it seems, but, and that's another thing, he's just so oddly translucent that I just, I don't, Drew McIntyre ditched the sword and the cutting of the fake ropes and the bagpipes, bagpipes too, and all that. and has become great. Can Seamus do something else besides have bangers and hoist a pint in the pub? The old fart and dragon or the old bell and whistle or the old frog and enema or whatever the fuck pub he's in? These are just thoughts at random. Can Seamus do something like Drew has done to...

See, the problem is I see him on the show as like a crazy cab driver. You know, it would be like the way he dresses at Axe back. I just see him as like, come on, buddy, get in my cab. And, you know, it tries to get you to Kennedy Airport or something. I don't buy him as anything else. With Drew and the sword. Maybe that's a weekly TV segment. Shamus on the way to Kennedy.

And they've got the fucking dash cam. And I watch that maybe. And with Drew, the sword thing, it was lame, but at least it'll pay off one day when he stabs his opponent right in the middle of the chest in the ring. Oh, yay, as a sword. I forgot all about that. on Netflix. On Netflix.

Well, you can get away with that. The standards are more open. It's an adult situation. But Seamus won after he was zip tied. His hands were zip tied behind his back. I'll zip light in traffic. That's what I see his character as. He's the cab driver.

And there's Joe Tortolini pitching to to let's go to Seamus. He's approaching the, the Kennedy Bridge or whatever the fuck is a goddamn landmark up there. There's lots of landmarks. There's no Kennedy Bridge. Yeah, well, we got a Kennedy Bridge.

See, you got a Kennedy Airport. We got a Kennedy Bridge. Our bridge is more important than your airport. You got a bunch of airports. When was it named the bridge? It was named the bridge as soon as they built it. Well, there's a bridge we built. So it wasn't renamed?

Like Kennedy Airport obviously wasn't the original name of the airport. They renamed that after John of Kennedy was assassinated. Well, I can't, it's just always been the Kennedy bridge to me. Within a month, right? But now they built a new bridge next to it, and it's the Lincoln Bridge. Because Kennedy died November 63. The Beatles were there in January 64. It was already Kennedy Airport.

Well, boy, it didn't take them a long time, did it? But it was idle wild before that. That's right. Now, let's not get too idle and wild here talking about this Shamest P. Dunn thing. What else was on Raw? All righty. Well, let's just, let's skip over the 10-woman tag team match that they had. And as well, Ethan Page and Ava were in the back bothering Adam Pierce,

and Ava was hugging sexy red. And boy, right there, they can put pictures of both of them in prison to cure the sex offenders. Does Ava have the least amount of charisma or just anything that would make you think that she should be in an on-air speaking role in a wrestling show? It's contest winner-level status here. But anyway, the main event, because here's the thing I, when this match was going to the ring, I realized, oh shit, it's only two hours tonight.

This son of a bitch is going to be over only two hours. I was so overjoyed to remember that that I was jazzed up for this match. and Sammy and Gunther for the world title and Sammy's been bugging him about and they told the story great is very simple the only time that Gunther has been penned since April 2020

since he came to the main roster was at WrestleMania by Sammy Zane That's right, yeah And so is Sammy Gunther's kryptonite And I love these two together because Sammy can sell is he may be the Ricky Mortonist person in the game today. And Gunther is perfect and especially as a big bully and beating on a guy that has to fight from underneath.

And that's what they did. They, you know, again, they both know what they're supposed to be doing based on what they look like. I'm sure that Gunther is agile enough. Sammy is strong enough that Sammy could be goddamn suplexing and brainbuster and Gunther all over the goddamn ring. They could perform those moves, but it would look fucking stupid.

So they both work how they look and how their gimmick comes off. Sammy's the feisty, never say die underdog that'll surprise you, and Gunther's this big-ass fucking heavy-handed bully. And they worked this to where it was plausible. If Sammy would be doing something, you know,

he got a blue thunder bomb out of a sleeper, he hooked him up, boom, out of nowhere. And, you know, at some point, Gunther would take Sammy a little lightly, and Sammy'd be selling, and suddenly he'd double-leg Gunther, and he'd fight back. And Sammy gave him a suplex on the floor, at a suplex into the barrier or not a sub, but a backdrop on the floor

at a suplex into the barrier. Baria. Barrier. Kevin? Well, the barrier. It was the barrier. And he hit him on the, the Huluva kick on the rail and tried to roll him in but couldn't. So he broke the count himself

and went back to Gunther and got him in the ring and hit him with another kick. And as he tried the all or nothing, and third one, he ran right into Gunther's clothesline, and Gunther got a two-count. And then they would trade shit for two counts that said they'd set up plausibly. That was, you know, each other's shit. Sammy with a jackknife.

Got a two-count, but Gunther with a power bomb. And the fans were chanting Sammy, Sammy. And then Gunther hit him with a fucking clothesline and a power bomb and Sammy kicked out at a one count like came out of it like oh fucking tried to fire himself up and Gunther was shocked and then grabbed a sleeper on him and stayed on him and was trying to hold him down

and they're milking Sammy getting the ropes and he's reaching and he's reaching and the answers are only just a couple of more inches and then Goetheur pulled him back and the referee had to ring the bell. And normally I hate the stationary finishes where they just but the stationary finishes

are when they're in the middle of the fucking ring and they've just had the hold forever or the blah blah blah. There was drama to this. They milked it. You thought he was going to get to the ropes and at the last second he got cinched back in.

And it was great timing because you could feel the people's antitels anticipation and then when it didn't happen they were uh but i love these two guys in a in a manly way where do you think they go with sammy um it was that's the thing you can still go anywhere with sammy because the the fans like him as a person and they don't expect see him win all the time they're happy and surprised what he does win the big one every now and then because he's not supposed to be Superman. He's supposed to be every man.

So this upcoming match with Gunther and Cody, which is for a belt, but I guess technically it's not a championship you defend, it's just more like a trophy. What do you think? I mean, the idea one of these guys has to do the job. If Cody does a job to Gunther,

what does that mean? And if Gunther does the job for Cody, what does that mean? I certainly, I think it would hurt Gunther more than would hurt Cody probably to lose? Well, I don't think, at this point, I don't think it would hurt, I wouldn't do it just for nothing or just for a regular show. For $50 million I may take the chance. But I think that Cody has to win that one.

And you know how big of a fan of Gunther I am. But I think also they can probably do it in such a way to give Gunther an out that it's worth the $50 million. Does that set up things well for the future at some point? The idea that Gunther lost one match, the title wasn't on the line. It's only the second match he's lost. We just established that here. He only lost the Sammy.

If the second match he loses is to Cody for this, you know, champion versus champion new title, does that hurt Gunther at all, or does it set up things well for the future? Oh, I think, again, it can set up then... Gunther wanting a rematch, but they can't defend the Crown Jewel title. So, you know, he can... They could actually do a fucking rematch with neither title on the line, just Gunther's bragging rights and let Gunther slip over Cody on a television angle or whatever

and get his win back without it meaning anything in the overall scheme of things for the title. But nevertheless, you know, they back themselves. in a corner, we figure that Cody will, I think will probably still be champion in a year from now the way things are going. But what if they end up with, they have to do

rematches of this champion versus champion thing the next year with the same people? Then do they just flip-flop the finish? Or what if that fucks up their booking? It remains to be seen. It's an awkward thing to have to do every year because you've said you're going to do it.

But it's $50 million. Hopefully one day an American billionaire will give them lots of money to stay here and let them book their own shows and not have to put together matches that will please the prince. But that was raw. And Jim, we still have two more shows to review

I guess in order, although they both aired on Tuesday, NXT started before AEW Week 2 on the CW as we talk about NXT on the CW first question I had what did you think of the look? Small venue What did you think?

Well that's what I was going to bring up. This is more it looked different than normal WWE. It had its own identity. I know they're not going to be in this building every week nor could they run St. Louis every week. And they don't have a building

like this in a lot of towns, but I would look for similar facilities. And I liken it to the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York. A lot of people know the Manhattan Center was the

smaller ballroom in that complex that the first Raw and USA emanated from. And Ring of Honor would run that room several times a year. But in the bigger shows, or when we got on that little run there where we were selling more tickets than we could fit into the Manhattan Center,

the Hammerstein Ballroom was upstairs, and yes, it only held 1,800, 2,000 people, depending on your seating setup, but it had those balconies. It looked like one of those old silent movie palaces, the grand and glorious backdrop. Brian, help me, you're a New Yorker. Can you be more prescriptive, more descriptive to people who might not have seen

the Hammerstein Ballroom? It has a cool look if you had a budget to shoot the thing for television. Like they did MTV Music Awards there, right, and other award shows. But they did ECW there, and they had no budget, and they made it look good because it had a really cool look.

It was almost like it was made the... It was a theater. I mean, that's really what it was. It was an old theater that was later... Who bought it? The Mooneys? Yeah. Some nuts.

They were assholes 12 years ago. I don't know what the fuck's going on with them now. Well, the Mooney's bought this old building. I forgot about the Mooney's until I just said this. I didn't even thought about them in years. And for our listeners in Alabama, that's not people to pull their pants down in public. It's a religion.

Well, for some people in Alabama, it's a religion. religion to pull your pass down in public. But nevertheless. The Manhattan Center, too, when Ross started running there and they used that red curtain in the background, it created a distinct look and it worked. It really was a cool room. And although you only had 1,200 fans maybe in there, it worked and it rocked at the right times. And, you know, we've said this about AEW with them running all these big buildings. They should be running small rooms and making them look and feel cool. This is exactly what we're talking about. about right here.

Yeah, and there were a lot of NXT chance. You could tell that overall, this was a more hardcore audience. Maybe it was two nights in a row. Some people came in from out of town, but they were up to date on who the NXT folks were.

But again, for the arena, it looked different than normal WWE. It had its own kind of identity, more wrestling arena-like. And I got to think for AEW, instead of having to shoot the ceiling on cover pitches because you can't find a crowd shot, if you're going to draw 2,500, 3,000 people run buildings

that seat 2,500, 3,000 people and they're full and they're rowdy and what? No, run buildings that seat 1,500 people. Let there be a demand. Just pack. Turn them away. Just pack what you can pack and then make that work. It's not like they need the money from the gate when they've got

beat Nick Enterprises behind him. That great beatnik video game divisions are still turning dividends. So anyway, on NXT from St. Louis, here came Trick Williams. And he got a big ovation. These were the people. There were what, a couple thousand I think they were set up for.

These are the people that are with NXT and understand what's going on and know all the talent. And they whoop that trick and blah, blah, blah. and Trick Williams can talk. He can talk. He's glib. He was rolling.

He was moving and grooving. A lot of charisma. Yes, and he looks good physically in a whole nine yards. And then he was interrupted by some guy up in the stands. And I kept, I knew it was one of the guys that was in a tag team that broke up. And last week they had a match and they've got prison tattoos and bad haircuts. I couldn't remember what. his name was. And they never said it. They referred to it later on in the program as

Wes Lee, right? Wes Lee, one of the worst names, I think anyone has. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is he was standing there in baggy pants and a fucking droopy sweatshirt and unnamed and unidentified and they started having the conversation. But Trick has some oomph, but the other guy was a guy in the stands wearing baggy pants. And then suddenly Jay Uso's music played and here he yeated and the people went nuts

and they started yeating and Jay and Trick yeated at each other and the fans chanted yeat and the guy in the stands was just forgotten and never heard from again. It was just like they were going back and forth like I'm going back and forth like I'm going to fight you, I'm going to fight you or whatever the fuck

and then suddenly here comes yeat and that guy just sat back down in his seat because he wasn't with the yeat. So he had, he couldn't, he had to be beat. I was beat. This was the moment where I was just like, I really, really hate the yeats shit. This specific segment right here.

This was unbearable. You don't have the appetite for the yeat. Rick Williams has a good look and he seems to have some size. You know, you got to wonder how much longer he's going to be in NXT. He's been there a while. I mean, we talked about him a couple of years ago with Carmelo Hayes, right? Well, that's when Carmelo Hayes was the big deal, and it was just, and my friend, Trick. Who do you think is more upside now?

Trick. I think he might do the trick. I don't know what the fuck was going on with that high draft pick for Carmelo Hayes, but I, yeah. Obviously, you got to fire one of these GMs. There was a high draft pick a couple years in row for Odyssey Jones. Look at how that worked out. boy I'll tell you it seems like that

it was it who was it back then it wasn't Pierce I don't want to get Pierce fired Aldus is new somebody didn't do the background checks his name on the Indies will be Venture Williams Venture Capital

but anyway we're not out of this segment yet because the guy in the stands is forgotten and not heard from again but suddenly as Jay and Trick were yeating then here came Kalani and Bianca and Jade

and they just did an entrance and just they all just posed in the ring. Well, this was funny too because they come out there and they get a big reaction or, you know, a big entrance. They each individually get their entrance and the Jus and

Triglioz are just in the background dancing with them. Yes. And when we came back from the break, it was a six-girl tag team match with Bianca and Jade and Kalani against Fallon Henley, Jasmine Minx, and Jane Wayne Gacy. And I'm sorry to report to you that I was called away on an urgent matter.

I had to remove a cat's spleen. And when I came back, the baby faces had won the match and we were half an hour into this show from just what we've described. Would you like me to go on? Yes. Yes. Well, would you like me to talk about Orton trying to give the Puts tag team champions some advice or support? He asked him about Javon Evans, who apparently is where, I don't know how they came up with,

we're going to have Randy Orton in his hometown. We're going to have work with Javon Evans. But nevertheless, there was some interaction there. And these two guys, if they're the tag team champions, If any new audience is going to tune in for the new network television and, you know, try to grasp some new people. They're available in more places now, whatever the fuck the strategy was. Would you want these two fucking schlubs to be your tag team champions? You know, so far, I don't see anything too offensive considering some of the other tag team champions we've seen on WWE shows.

I mean, of course, AEW shows. Well, anyway, to talk about them more here in a moment, because Roxanne Perez came out to do the in-ring promo, and she brought out her friend, Cora Jade. And while they were discussing things, here came Julia. And she, before she got to the ring, brought out her friend, Stephanie Vacker. and I'm like, what is this open mic night on glow? What?

And they, they all got in the ring and suddenly a fight broke out at a bachelorette party. And we, I don't know if some of these young women are old enough to buy alcohol. We were 42 minutes in to the program by the time this thing was over. Yes, we were. Yes, we were. I'll continue on.

and I can see you're chomping at the bit to discuss these things. The problem is I'm of the belief that there's too much women's wrestling and there's too many women not even to go into whatever Roxanne Perez and Cora Jade could do in the ring but it just felt like Sasha Banks Amateur Hour, them on the mic. Yes. And they're getting time on TV to stand there, no interviewer, and just deliver these practiced speeches.

and it felt Sasha Banksish. And I don't lie. I'm not entertained. Again, I always wonder who the core audience for this is. I guess a lot of it are really horny guys that want to give Sean Michael's credit. I really don't know, but this ain't for me. The female talent that we had in OVW,

with a few exceptions, was generally older, more experienced, more mature, and I'm not saying they were in their 40s or even in their mid to late 30s, but they were more experienced, they had already many of them been wrestlers, and then they were signed and further developed. Or we didn't put them on television until they had more,

except when I was forced to, Linda Miles, until they had more comfort and we didn't throw them out there on their own once again, the spotlight, you know, all by themselves holding their own microphone, expecting to hold a national television audience's attention. They had an interviewer that could help facilitate the transitions and keep things focused. And it's just not, you know, what the fuck? It's not fair to these people.

It just doesn't, you know, it just feels like they're doing a little act. Yes, because they're doing a little act. Yeah, because they're doing a little act. And I don't know. Do a little act. Get a little juice. I'm sorry. And if, you know what?

And again, I love the top flight women wrestlers. I love the Rio Ripley-Lib Morgan stuff. That's a classic wrestling feud and it's working well. Yes. But if WWE really believes in this so much, create an all women's show. And let's see how it works and treat it seriously and load it up with all your talent. But NXT now, this is, I mean, two weeks in a row and I guess this is exactly how it's previously in USA, there's just a lot of women with fake names, just out there doing a talent

show performance. And it's not what I like as a wrestling fan. And I felt like that was going on here, and it wasn't Julia and Stephanie Vakor because they didn't even get on the mic. They just came out there and had at least an aura. The other two were doing a WWE under Vince McMahon style performance. and I think there's some talent in NXT, but the people who rave about Sean Michael's booking and how,

I don't know, I don't get it, I don't get it. You say the other two had an aura. We used to have a sponsor that you could get rid of that. It could get rid of any kind of aura you had in your pits and your crotch and any time. Maybe I meant stature instead of aura, but I mean, at least they gave, you know what I mean? Like, they didn't have to say anything. If they said anything, it probably would have ruined it. But enough of the.

segments. Well, speaking of these segments, and we went to the back where a pretty girl and three random guys, two of which were dressed like bums with bad haircuts, were talking to each other, and then they walked down the hallway and interacted with Brian Pilman Jr. a.k.a. Lexus King in a highly scripted way. They're getting to be polished script material deliverers. You know, they're not like fomfer in every third word, but it's... just, it's written.

I'm sorry, go ahead. And the hair, the hair is what you were going to say? Well, the whole look, the facial hair and everything, but I believe one of the guys, the main guy of the three guys and a girl walking down the hall was William Regal's son. Oh, I wonder which, was he one of the bums, or was he the guy that was actually dressed somewhat like you'd be dressed if you were on television? He kind of had a foppish look, that kind of like Moxley's old hair, but with William Regal's face.

I think since they've become a publicly traded company, you get in trouble if you fop in the locker room. Well, what other foppish dandies were on this show, Jim? Well, okay, your big match that you told me the North American title, Tony DeAngelo, the Mafia Fellow versus Oba Femi, the Fuddy named fellow. For the North American title, did I say that? And you said, let's watch Obafemi.

And I like Oba Femi. And I like Oba Femi. now. I'm not knocking Omaphim. Oba Femmy. I'm not knocking him. I'll just never call him his name ever. Well, no. I'm trying to. It's Oba Femi. Oh, my darling. Oh, my darling. Oh, my darling. Obafemi. So, but I have observations here. As this thing went on, I have questions to ask.

DiAngelo's gimmick we've established is horrible. It's 1995 Vince. He's a mafia light, Tony Soprano, if he was a cartoon character without any type of blood or whacking. He went to Vince's Taylor right after Abe Knuckleball Schwartz did that outfit that he's wrestling.

Yeah. What is that? There you go. I mean, it's, and the thing is, he's been around for a while. So he was the veteran in this and he was,

he was calling it, but it's not his fault that they made him have this goofy gimmick. I guess he just, Stockholm syndrome, and he's embraced it or whatever. Had the ring announcer this week. Remember last week he had the goofy hair this week?

He had his sleeves rolled up, no jacket and tattooed arms. He looks worse than if he was a beavis and butthead character. They're trying to make the show young and hip. He looks like some kind of goddamn bartender at a place that flunked the fucking health inspection. My favorite is still Ron Martinez for the IWA tapings in the 70s where he had like a tuxedo and sunglasses. Well, those TV lights are bright. Anyway, so they rang the bell for the first men's match on the program 52 minutes in.

And so anyway, I'm watching Obafemi. He's not a natural, but it seems like he's grasping things. He can move and he can bump. If you can't figure out a way to make money with this guy, I don't know what your problem is with the way that he looks and the size and the the aura and the whole nine yards but I don't he's not ready at this point to be thrown to the way

he's already on national TV but he doesn't need to be on raw or smackdown right now with the the competition he'd be facing in the ring having said that there wasn't much of a match here and probably Tony DiAngelo was trying to highlight whatever Obafemi could do and maybe there's not that much variety in it yet. I don't know. But they

got the thing in the body of the match and then Tony D'Angelo is the heel, right? He's got stooges at ringside. They're mafia henchman. Obafemi is the baby face that's the

fucking impressive, physically dominant, great-looking fucking guy, right? Well, they were in Tony DeAngelo's hometown. Well, but still for the program. Al Capone was a baby face in Chicago. Well, not to the, not fucking Elliot Ness, he wasn't. No, just the people who lived in his neighborhood.

The friends at ringside. But what I'm saying is this is the whole world that's watching this, not just St. Louis. So they can say, yes, Tony D'Angelo's from St. Louis, but what they did in this match, as far as the booking. that's what i'm to it was like a double turn at one point d'angelo stooge slides a crowbar in for him to use and an actual goddamn crowbar and dangelo looks at it and slides it back to the guy which is a baby face move and then oba femmy hits him with a clothesline they both take a bump over the top to the floor and there's the three stooges of d'angelo two guys that are a girl and he shoves them and they knock the girl down with them.

And suddenly, because of that DeAngelo comes up fucking freaking out mad and tackles him, I'm like, well, is this a double turn? Because now the guy's coming to the rescue of his girl that went down and he sees her on the floor and doesn't know what the fuck happened. Did you see the camera angle? Like they immediately zoomed in on his face before he even reacted. they were waiting for it. Well, you know, because they were.

That was, he just, he reacted late. But DeAngelo beats the shit out of Obafemi and suplexes him on the ramp and spears him. He's making a baby face comeback. And then Obafemi catches DeAngelo with a choke slam. And I mean, the crowd is into this now. They've got them. But now they've switched places. We're now, again.

The mafia guy is a abuser of women. And I'm sorry, the mafia guy is, no, I'm trying to say it right. The mafia guy has morals. Is the baby face that is defending the baby face that's now a heel that's the abuser of women and the heel mafia guys make it a comeback. And then it gives them. But he didn't abuse any women. well he shoved the guys down and the woman went down the woman is down and then d'angelo gives the giant

obafemi baby face gives you two german suplexes he's 310 pounds so the heel is german suplexing the giant baby face and then did you see oba femmy bealed uh fucking what you call it dangelo across the ring and then swooned and fell down Did you see the swoon? I saw that, yes. So then they go to the desk and Oba's going to try the power bomb, but DeAngelo spine busters him through the desk and then rolls him in and spine busters him again and gets a two count.

And then Oba Femi goes for the choke slam. DeAngelo goes up and over him, Sunset flips him, one, two, three. so again Obafemi switches heel is abusing women the mafia guy becomes the baby face, makes the comebacks and wins clean

was this a double turn what the fuck was going on here I have no idea I don't know if it was just a hometown thing and him and his goons and their lady friend I don't know what's happening over there they'll all go back to being heels

next week, wherever they are, Des Moines. But, uh... What if Obafemi had been from Des Moines? You know, these were the things that turned me off to NXT that are still there. I thought Tony DeAngel looked all right in the ring, but it's the gimmick. It's the promo in the gimmick,

and then it's him having goons in the gimmick. You know, that Andre Chase thing. That was another thing. When that started popping up on that TV show, it chased me off. but they're going after something it's almost like WWE

in the 90s early 90s mid 90s developmental mixed with young good looking people I don't particularly see the great booking or even really a great wrestling show but there are people who rave about this show

it's to me WWE's answer to AEW It started as NXT started as WWE's answer to Ring of Honor. What happened when Vince took it over and spat it back out, what we see now, it's become WW's answer to AEW. How do we make a young hip property where we develop stars and it looks good and we make money with it? And that's what they've done. They're only getting $25 million a year from SW for the record though. But this is WWE's AEW. Well, the no further proof needs to be given than the next match for the tag team title

where the tag team champions of this organization look like a meth head and a Mexican mini. Oh, come on. How did he look like a meth head? I'll give you the mini. How did he look like a meth head? Okay, well, so the mini is already over here in the bank. I'll jot that down. This fucking guy with his overly dry, blah.

Ha, hair looks like if he had three teeth missing in the front, he looked like he just got lined up against the wall on cops. You know who that is? Do you remember who that is at all? Who, who? Who is who? He was a guy that made a couple appearances for AEW. His name was Ben Carter, and people raved about him. And then like the next week, WWE signed. So that's who this guy is.

He was a guy that appeared in AEW and everyone went crazy and they wanted him. and then he immediately signed with WWE. And now he's, what's his name? Nathan Frazier. Nathan Frazier. Well, anyway, I mean, there's just, he looks, put him in any type of street clothes and put him on a street corner and tell me if anybody would turn their fucking head. He's just normal as fuck.

Well, he's fast. Well, yeah, because he's tiny. And he flips. You can turn a Maserati quicker and you can turn a Greyhound. And I mean, they look like two of Mike Jackson's jobbers back in the TBS Studio days. And as I mentioned on my notes, they work like they should be in AEW. How did Tony Kahn miss these two? Apparently, he didn't.

But they had to work with Grace, or they had to work with, Grayson Waller and Austin Theory had to work with them for the tag team title. And the only reason the indignity could have been worse, but they beat Waller instead of having to beat our boy theory. And I mean... How long can they tease the Waller theory? Do you even call it dissension, just bumbling friendship? How long can they tease this thing breaking up?

They're almost not even teasing it anymore, are they? I guess not. I guess now it's just they have moments where they always bumble and cost each other big moments, and then their friendship continues. Because they're loyal. They're loyal to a fault. but you know I'm sorry and I know that the what's his name of Nathan Nathan Gizmo Nathan Carter Fraser

Plowboy Frazier whatever his name is he looked like he had a nice arm drag but that's again the problem is when just some slub that looks like you know he ought to be working at the post office can get in and do these wrestling moves with great a lack of and skill, it kind of devalues the whole goddamn deal. And this, again, the venue, it's not the territory days. You know, a guy might have been great for TV in Hattiesburg, Mississippi,

but maybe not New York or Chicago. That was the beauty of the territories. But I just, I don't see how they can put these guys on national TV and these spots looking as they do. Well, again, I think with them specifically, it's about the style that they're wrestling, and it's their way of cop, not copying, but it's their version of AEW having these guys. At the same time this match was on, on Dynamite, was Commander versus, I thought to say Commander versus Hurricane, I feel. Not hologram.

Hologram. You know, so you had two mass guys who looked like they're the size of children on one channel. This one looked, at least they didn't shape on the, this channel. But this was... And the poor wrestling fan had no alternative, no place to get,

no safe port in a storm. Well, Jim, I mean, there's no time to waste. We got to keep moving with this thing. Yeah, now, you don't want to tell the people that you had to take a break because they delivered your chicken Big Mac. I had the chicken.

I had to take a break because it was break time. And it just so happened. My meal was here during... Your meal was here. What was break time today? And it was. it was delicious. A man of your means calling a chicken

Big Mac a meal. It's a big thing. It's a big moment. They brought this over stateside. It's a Big Mac. It's a Big Mac. Now with chicken. What are your thoughts on the Big Mac? They brought it over stateside. What did they import it from goddamn... From Europe. From Nigeria or fucking Pakistan

somewhere that the chicken came from a special overseas supplier? I think it came from Europe. I don't know if the chicken came from there, but the idea of the chicken big mac. Did the chicken have an accent? Oh, too, too. No, um, it's delicious, though.

It's delicious, though. Very, very good. Well, and that, that was paid for by the McDonald's Corporation. All right, continuing on with NXT, sexy red. Let's continue on with NXT. We saw her on Raw, but this was longer. where, again, she's apparently from St. Louis. We've established that sexy red, there's false advertising on at least the sexy part.

She tried to dance and made Mercedes moan stripper shimmy look like a Nureev performance. And then she started, was she imitating a cat being disemboweled to music? That's the best description I could come up. it in English? I couldn't tell. I couldn't understand any of the words. What was going on here? You know, sometimes you just have to be honest with things and say, like I am right now, this wasn't for me. This isn't for me. I'm not the audience for this. It didn't look like the audience there was the audience for this. Were they cheering like it was fucking 81 year old Mick Jagger hopping into satisfaction? No, and you'd need to be that to get cheered because for the most part,

I think people go to wrestling to see wrestling. They don't really want music interludes or musicians. Well, they didn't get any musical interlude here. Unless you consider a goddamn flamingo being tortured. Music to your ears. And then Ethan Page has become my hero because he came out and interrupted this thing

and canceled the concert and cut a promo on everybody. And this... This woman apparently felt like she needed to continue speaking during his interview, but finally they played music and out came Javon Evans, who looks like if he turned sideways and stuck his tongue out, he'd look like a zipper. No, you're thinking of Leon Ruff. Remember him? Oh, he was even thinner.

That was NXT. Remember that? Yeah, boy. Well, Javon's still a little, a little on a thin side, a little on a little on a the emaciated side, but Page tried to sucker punch him and Javon Evans hit him with some of the worst punches I've ever seen, and Paige bailed out. So sexy Red's honor was saved. Possibly in a jar somewhere.

I don't know. I don't know where she put her on her. Now the sexy red contention is going to be after me. Look her up. Google sexy red She probably got more money than you, me and the fucking county and it's goddamn ridiculous

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and led her third mixtape in Sexy We Trust. 26 years old, St. Louis, Missouri. Mixed, so she... We're not talking Aresda Records here. She's not on the Columbia label or anything. She's on. It has three labels listed here. Gamma, OpenShift, and J. Rebel.

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without having to really get too many big players involved. So she's a... What is it take? The TV ratings are so far down. What does it take I want her to be a best-selling recording artist these days? You sell 16 CDs out of the trunk of your car, you hit the charts. I don't know if they sell CDs, really, a lot of these people. Everything's just streaming and downloads.

Well, there you have it. There you have it. Anyway, the main event is here. Randy Orton's going to wrestle. And he comes out and gets a... standing ovation and he's going to wrestle Javon Evans. And I don't know why they made this match because apparently old Javan is a baby face. And Randy Orton obviously in St. Louis is fairly well thought of.

So it's baby face versus baby face. And I didn't catch it. I forgot to go back and look and see what they introduced Javan at weightwise. But would you say 185, 190? maybe he's a tall fellow maybe let's let's put him at 200 yeah i was going to say he seemed a little tall i would say 190 195 okay they introduced randy orton at 290 and i believe it he's massive now and so he's 90 pounds bigger than this fucking guy but think about this in 2002 randy orton because he's tall probably weighed about 225 pounds and batista weighed 325

and now 22 years later Orton weighs 290 and Batista looks like he weighs 225 that's just an interesting factoid I can see you're blown away by the it's really interesting when you think about what this is

this is Randy working with developmental on TV to give some guy experience whatever this was did that happen to him on OVW TV what happened to him he missed the goddamn diamond or the diamond cutter or the Cody Cutter

or whatever kind of thing. I'm going to say that anyone come in and try and help him or elevate him on TV, but then again, no one was, he wasn't as sloppy as the guy in this match. Well, yeah, well, and yes,

a bunch of, you know, guys came in and worked with the various young fellows, but again, not on national television. So, the one thing that Orton's so smart, remember I've talked about

working to somebody's level. In other words, yes, you don't want to you don't want to just beat the shit out of Javon Evans, the NXT guy when you're the visiting star, you want to give him something, but at the same time,

Randy Orden's one of the biggest stars in the business, and he's got to be in a position to draw money in main event pay-per-view matches. So he comes in and he works the match where a lot of times he's physically dominating the guy, he's a veteran, he's kind of toying with him, but then he takes him a little bit too lightly, and the guy comes with a surprise

foot to the face or the fucking boot or the move or the thing or whatever that gets orught and off balance then the other guy gets the flurry. But he's not just working with the guy like this has to be a WrestleMania main event match. We got to go 30 minutes. It's got to take me everything I know and have learned in life to beat this fucking guy.

That's what the difference is between the people and know what the fuck they're doing. And not only how to keep their standing in wrestling, but also how to benefit the company they're working for by not devaluing themselves, by having a shit kicked out of them, by a guy that's obviously green and not ready. And there's levels to this.

So, Randy, you know, at one point, Javon foiled the table drop that Randy tried and did a dive, but I think he missed doing whatever they were trying to do, but Orton grabbed him and dropped him on the desk four times in a row. And the people are fucking going crazy, and Orton is a master having a match without taking a bump, right? And they're chanting Randy. And Javon Evans is another guy who he has great leaping ability.

He hit the nice cross-body. He's doing some super kicks and some, you know, fancy jumping. but he can't take a regular turnbuckle when you shot him across the corner, either that or he was thinking about the next move to the point where you could have had an egg taped to the turnbuckle. He wouldn't have broke it.

It's that he needs more time yet. He's not a natural at in-ring stuff. He's a natural at athletic stuff. But anyway, so Orton milked the RKO, but Javon caught him with a super kick and did a springboard Cody cutter off the top rope that he flew 20 feet in the air

and boom and got a two count and then went to flip off the top rope and Orton was waiting for him and in the mid flip Orton with the finish was going to be he was going to catch him in the RKO and as Orton went up Evans came short and kept spinning

and they just fell next to each other and I felt bad for the guy right because he's like probably nervous shaking like a dog shit and peach seeds anyway, being in there with Orton. And then Orton picked him up and R.K. Odie him anyway to get the people to see it, one, two, three. And then, in a departure from what Randy probably would have done 20 years ago, he picked the guy up and you could see him saying, that's okay,

because the guy's, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, you're the fucking man, right? So it, and I believe maybe somebody else, might have a heel that nobody would have cared if he fucked anything up or if he got beat might have been a better thing to do. But nevertheless. And that was NXT. What you remember back when they were crowing that AW won the Wednesday night war, Brian,

when the WW developmental program got slightly edged out by the ratings of, AEW's flagship show. In a couple of years, the worm has turned. But we will talk about that here shortly. Well, that was NXT week two. Of course, this week, due to the MLB playoffs, AEW Dynamite aired on Tuesday instead of Wednesday and aired at 9 p.m. instead of 8 p.m.

So one hour head-to-head with NXT, let's talk about AEW Dynamite. Well, that's right. NXT went 8 to 10. A.W went 9 to 11-08 or whatever the overrun was, so it legate tries. So we'll see when we analyze it, but theoretically, one would have thought they'd have picked up a few thousand stray wrestling fans at 10 o'clock that were already watching television.

One would think. You would have to know they were there. You'd have to know they were airing on a Tuesday night. That's the problem. From what I saw based on social media. reaction. They did a really bad job of letting the fans know that they were going to be on a Tuesday night. But then again, all these AEW fans live on the social media.

Wouldn't they, and isn't it their responsibility? Just like when they're supposed to record the program after the program to make sure they see the program, that's their responsibility. They ought to know, but shouldn't they check these TV schedules? As the announcers used to say, check your local listings. I think it's their responsibility, but I think the fans have dropped the ball here, Brian. Well, there was a lot of ball on a... That's no transition at all, but there was a lot of things happening on dynamite.

Why don't we get to that? A few of these guys looked like their balls haven't dropped yet. But anyway, so the show started as they've been doing before they would just jump into a goddamn match. Ring the bell, here we go, right? Now they're going to the garage with the ominous music. so that the plumber can talk to us. Old Plummer Moxley can give his

weekly audition for an indie film contract of some description. What the fuck is he saying? He was cutting a promo on Brian Danielson and apparently his point was it's got to be this way. What way and why?

What is he saying, Brian? Do you understand any of it's great It's great acting If you knew what movie you were watching I mean it's great acting in a sense That he clearly memorized a bunch of lines And learned a bunch of big words And really wanted to find a way to use them

In this wrestling promo But it goes nowhere It doesn't really work for Moxley Moxley shouldn't be using big words That go nowhere It's this guy philating himself And Tony allowing it You have to wonder if he doesn't

does want to go to Hollywood. This is all just bad acting. And again, why is Moxley the badass? What is he even talking about? He goes on for a minute, and he never, it's always the Riddler act. He never says anything. I have to do this.

Why? Why? Explain anything. It's like, seriously, if you went to one of these fancy Dan modern-day space age multiplex cinemas, and they got 18 theaters,

and you just bought a ticket and just wandered into a theater, you don't know what the fucking movie is or that you're seeing and you're already in the middle of it. And this guy's saying this shit and you're like, and then Brian Danielson was in another back

with video that looked like it was shot on somebody's old VHS camcorder and he cut a promo and return on Claudio and the plumber and the whole nine yards. and we'll get to them later on. So then Darby Allen's entrance was the first thing live that the people saw and he came out and he was pissed off

and without any further ado he calls Brody King out right now. And I guess Saturday night on the show that nobody else watches that Brody King jumped him or whatever, right? He's answered the... Remember Darby... What? No.

The footage they showed, everything was from 2022. Well, I saw that they were showing stuff from years ago, but I thought they said something about this guy, because Darby issued an open challenge. Or did Brody King just answer the open challenge? But he didn't jump him except for what he jumped him two years ago. Why didn't Darby bother to get even in this amount of time? Was he lulling him into a false sense of security?

The more Darby talks and gives us weird. homeless inspirational speech, the more I don't like them. Yeah. But well, here's that this was another double turn. Because he called Brody King out. They showed Brody King, you know, fucking him up a couple years ago,

and Brody King came out. And Darby starts doing the promo about how. They used to be friends. They were on the Indies. They stayed in crackhead motels on the... This guy is so proud. of being a fucking shiftless, irresponsible, homeless bum all his life. But can't they act like anybody's a star?

Did everybody have to exist in cesspools and fucking flop houses with this guy? So Darby's upset because after a bunch of talk of the Indies and how Darby's the one that told Tony Kahn to hire Brody King. So the noted heel in the House of Black got hired due to a baby face telling the boss, yeah, he's a great guy. That's the problem. The whole thing is we used to fight on any of these and then we would hang out at the hotel. Yes.

And then I told him to hire you. It's all inside bullshit that it does not pertain in any way to any of the stories they tell on the TV show until they come out and do one of these inside promos. And Darby actually said he is the face of AEW. and he's got to be the face, he's got the responsibility, he's getting these people hired, he's dead, Brody King comes out and answers his challenge or whatever he did to him.

And Brody King, calmly, and normally, instead of having this fucking mental breakdown that Darby is having, yelling and pissed and pacing, Brody says, you want to be the face of AEW, but what's going to happen to, A.W. if you kill yourself on Mount Everest. Or you get hit by and then the A.W.'s face is dead. You've got a death wish and you'll you'll fuck it all up.

Calmly and matter of factly, the heel becomes the voice of reason. I was going to say, what a reasonable, thoughtful guy. You almost wonder if he's speaking for the office. Yes, and he actually said you need somebody to save you from yourself. The heel becomes the calm voice of reason, while the baby face is having a meltdown. So then Darby throws a hissy fit. Well, let's go right now.

Go ahead, you want to take my spot? Take my spot? Put me out of my misery. The heel is calm and rational. The face is a hysterical whiny bitch. And then Darby says, go ahead. Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! He starts barking at Brody King,

and he's sitting in the corner barking at the, fucking guy. And Brody King says, get up. And Darby gets up and slaps him in the face. And this guy is twice his weight and a foot taller. So Brody King

just knocks him goofy with one shot and turns baby face. It was a double turn. Darby the baby face is a hysterical, irrational screaming lunatic here. And the

he's makes perfect sense and is calm until he gets slapped in a face then he knocks Darby Goofy and then Darby pulls out a rock

just a rock and hits I've never seen that in wrestling it hits Brody Heel hits Brody King in the mouth with it and he spits up the blood he's bleeding from the mouth

and security comes in so the final act was the alleged baby face hitting the alleged heel in the face with a rock, despite the fact that the heel was bare-handed and unarmed. So that was that. Tony DeAngelo, the double switch there, it was his hometown. So at least you had that. This was Darby's hometown, wasn't it?

This is Washington. Well, so that's why he decided to show his ass? What, I don't... One of the wrestlers just, I wish they can curse. Who the fuck are you to lecture me? me about anything, Darby. Yeah. What success has this guy had in his life passed a billionaire giving him a job, making a ton of money suddenly that before he was sleeping in his car and an irresponsible, fucking juvenile delinquent. Get Brody. Get Brody. He made so much sense. Yeah. You know,

I don't want to see you do this to yourself and you'll let the company down. Oh, you're your motherfucker. How selfish are you? You're the face of the company. You're going to go die on Mount Yeah. He'll have to come up there with an ice pick and chip and chip your ass out. This could be his new thing after the House of Black, the thoughtful giant. But I mean, but seriously, I don't, these guys obviously don't know how to portray themselves. They don't know how they come off to normal people on television. People, the small subgroup of the audience out there that is predisposed,

to like these people no matter what. Past that, none of them have a clear picture of how they look and how they should be presented, and there's nobody telling them any different. And speaking of how people should be presented, so let me get this straight. Renee Moxley-Good was in the back

with Lance Archer and Jake Roberts, who we have not seen. We've seen Lance Archer in the last year, I guess, right, a time or two. Have we seen Jake Roberts with him in two years? No, we saw Lance Archer pop up randomly. I think I had a couple matches, no Jake. We heard Jake renewed his contract,

and then we never saw Jake again. But it seems now he's a player. There they are, and Don Fallis walks in and does the promo for them and they've concluded a talent exchange and Lance Archer is now a member of Don's family and they walk off and Renee asks who Jake got

and Jake won't say who Jake got. Or what he's got. Don could have just come out and sign Lance Archer and nobody would have give a shit because it's been so long since we have seen them together. Well, obviously based on what happened later in the show, they're using this as a chance for Jake to elevate a group of young wrestlers that they see a lot in.

Are you fucking, well, wait a little you hear who that group is, folks. More on that in a minute. And by the way, the announcers for the show were sock-faced Tony Chivani and Jeff Jared because Taz had knee surgery and is part of the... The Metseron again. The Metseron again against AEW. That's what it is. Well, I think he, you know, probably said, hey, it might be. a good time now for me to get some body parts

to replace. So I don't have to be on this show because it's getting stinky, but we don't doubt the legitimacy of his surgery. But they... This is Vincent McMahon wearing a neck brace to court. The Mets are in the playoffs. He wants to stay home. I'll get my knee surgery now. Well,

if it was eyeball surgery, then that would shoot your theory straight to hell because he wouldn't be able to watch. But since it's knee surgery, you don't need to be able to walk to watch baseball. So you might have something. But you know what they didn't have, Brian? An audience.

No, any common fucking sense, because the next match was the long-awaited showdown between a hologram and commander. And I wrote at this point so they know that nobody's going to watch this show. And they're just trying to fill the time. Can I stop you right there? Yes, and then I'll go on. A.Ws had an issue. getting new people in the door that really hasn't happened,

retaining the audience they have throughout a show, and in this case, maybe even announcing that the show would be on another night efficiently enough that people knew, if you knew you're on a different night, a different time slot, up against strong competition, the playoffs, and, of course, NXT, and it's the go-home show for your pay-per-view. Do you put stuff that doesn't matter on the show because you're out of your normal time slot?

Or do you try to load it up with stuff for the pay-per-view, even though you're out of your normal time slot? And there can be a third option, because I have never, any TV that I ever wrote or helped write or whatever, you never want to just do TV that doesn't matter. And there's got to be something that you can do to justify putting something on that will help an individual talent or build something for later or whatever, but at the same time, if you know that because of circumstances beyond your control,

a switch in time or preemptions on many stations or a switch in day, whatever, that your audience is going to be down, you don't turn on dusty on that show. You don't do the big goddamn angle on that show, but you still, because you're going to be back in your regular,

time the next week and you can do stuff in this program that you can show back the highlights of the next week or now you can put on YouTube or you can put out on social media so there's not a reason to totally just give up and you know you've jumped overboard just take a big breath and go with it right try to swim and tread water at least until you get back in the boat

and then you can make some progress and to put hologram against Commander on what is allegedly your flagship show even though it's on a different night and time who the fuck the smallest smallest group of AEW fans would give a shit

that these two guys that nobody cares about nobody knows what they fucking look like are good to have a lucha match and do a bunch of fucking cartwheels, except for Tony, because hologram is his gimmick idea. So if you're on a new night, then you might accidentally get some new eyeballs on the show, and maybe they might see something, but when anybody looks at perception, and as Vince McMahon, you say, perception is reality.

if you're looking at the difference in the two wrestling programs or wrestling companies with WW and or AEW and NXT had some crummy-looking people on it too but when you tune into this show with an empty building the arena is so dark you can see lightning bugs flying around and they're doing cover pitches with the announcer shooting the ceiling because they can't pan a crowd that ain't there. And they've got two guys in the ring

that look like children in Halloween mass doing stuff they worked out on their trampoline. It just looks fucking low, low rent, low budget, low class, low secondary. Does that make any sense to you? It does, and even for the people that I think we'll just look at what you say and think you're being too harsh. I think even if you're a fan of these two guys in their style,

you need to be able to recognize how low rent it looks. And also, I mean, just when I say it, both of their looks, but they're both tiny. They're tiny, what are they, five, seven at the most? At the most, and they're skinny. They're really skinny. And they're just doing moves to each other for no reason. there is a fan base for this stuff,

but they don't watch TV, and they didn't watch for this, not to play spoiler. I don't know that anybody's going to be shocked by that spoiler, but basically after a long, long time where Tony was, I'm sure, watching with baited breath on the monitor in the back,

a hologram one, because he apparently also has the longest active winning streak in AEW. I think I saw that graphic. And it's his dynamite debut. Basically, Tony's got a new pockets. It's a new little pet thing because he thinks the gimmick is great for his internet friends. But then... It's his gimmick. That's the other thing. Pockets wasn't something he invented. This is something he invented. Oh, he wishes he had invented pockets, though. It's that childish. But nevertheless,

then here comes Jake Roberts out to the stage, to the entranceway, and he stood there and watched Rush and Rigger Mortis and another Mexican fellow jump both of these guys and clear the ring out. And the announcers kind of sort of worked out verbally on their own that now Jake is their manager. is that's the la fuckers and goobers group right is that what they call themselves well rush was were the other two in that i'm not sure i don't know were they ever managed by don callus no that's another thing is it said it was a talent exchange yeah yeah but and i i so anyway now Jake Roberts is the manager of three random luchadors

because Jake is noted for being a master of that style and the fans are just sitting there going what the fuck is this going on and Jake didn't even walk to the ring he may not have had a long enough tube on his oxygen tank but that's okay anyway is that enough on hologram and commander I mean it's enough on the match I'm intrigued by the

idea of Jake Roberts managing, a team he's going to tower over Roos, the Beast Mortis, and Drillistico. Whose idea was this and why? Well, I think so Jake can teach him psychology. As soon as he learns Spanish. Let's get Jake Roberts when he is the hardest to listen to that he's ever been and have him do promos for the Latino wrestlers who can't do promos. But no, but he didn't do a promo.

He didn't even fucking speak. Don Callis did most of the promo earlier. So he's good. I think it's a coaching type of thing where as soon as Jake learns Spanish so he can communicate with these guys

and as long as he brings his oxygen so he's got enough voice to tell him the things that they're going to ignore, then he'll be able to teach him something. I'm so intrigued by the idea behind this. It'll be a talent swap. Oh, is Jake to manage Takesha? that's that's interesting okay or fletcher i don't really see it no he's managing three guys

don callus has never managed before it makes no sense what about hobbs well yeah what did they do to him did they goddamn remove his fucking kidneys or something what kind of injury could he have had did you hear the rumor with ray phoenix because we heard that ray phoenix and pinto that we're going to sign with WWE, the Lucha Brothers, the story is, or at least people are thinking it, that because he was injured so often, Tony's going to extend his contract to prevent him from being able to sign with WWE.

Yes. Fair game, or any problem with that? Well, no, at the money that he's paying a lot of these guys and they're off for months at a time, and he's still paying him, or goddamn, if you sign for three years, work for me for three fucking years. don't work for me for a year and a half over a three-year period.

I think that's perfectly fair. Now, if you're fucking with a guy over two months or something, then that's a little dodgy. But anyway. Well, you know, Jim, Jake Roberts didn't have too much to say. He kind of just did a thumbs up or whatever the hell he did from the stage. Jake Roberts, known for his Fonzie mannerisms. Perhaps he just woke up.

Perhaps Jake had a good night's sleep. Well, you know, he did look like he was still in the land of somnambulism. He did look like he had a little crustiness around his eyes, or maybe it was his nostrils. But I'll tell you what, you won't have anything crusty on your Helix sleep mattress, folks, because they come to you in a box brand new. And we have been talking about our friends at Helix for so long now. Everybody in the cult of Cornette,

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Or maybe it's biology. Well, nevertheless, if you'd like to go through many of the bodily habits that you normally do every day, there's no place better than on a helix mattress. Brian, I think you can agree that, well, the helix, whether it's the helix for kids or the helix for fat people, or the helix for people who like to sleep on their face,

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to hang out in his house and just sleep and just enjoy all the money that he's making now for no apparent reason our friend old Danny Garcia. Daniel Garcia came out, Great Brian last, on dynamite and answered the

question of the ages, averted a crisis, disaster is not going to take place. Daniel Garcia is staying with AEW, baby. Aren't you relieved? You know, watching this, I'd be relieved, I didn't see them on TV for a while. this was cringy to me

he can't talk he doesn't have the voice he can't pull it off and everything's just just raw raw bullshit I'm staying with AEW why don't you disclose how much Tony's paying you if you want to make it sound like you're doing some charity work yes I'll have you know I'm not going to forget the children

in the streets of Calcutta I'm right here with you in this fight I'll be making seven million dollars or whatever You know, he came out there in mom jeans dressed like, you know, George Michael in the Faith video or something. Well, that's what... It ain't working. It ain't working. This ain't going to work.

A white t-shirt, a black leather vest, and blue jeans, he looked like anybody's showing up for work to pump somebody's septic tank. It was kind of like the Ed Norton look, wasn't it? All he needs is the floppy hat. You know, I hadn't thought of that. A lot of people compared him to some, like, bootlegs, Steve Austin or Stone Cold. But Ed Norton works. Yeah, the vest. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, you're upy boy.

Hey, Tony. He looks like he just climbed up out of a manhole. So as, again, the big entrance where he walks, Danny jumps off the ramp so that he can shake some hands on the way out. And what will he say? That whole thing. What will he say? We have no idea what this guy we're giving a live mic to who hasn't been on the show in a couple months we'll say right now, you know, I hate that shit. I hate it. Well, what, that's the thing is what was he supposed to be going to say?

Because we didn't know why he's been gone. We didn't, that's the whole thing. As Buddy Landell would say, this nothing happening guy walks out, just dressed like any fucking body, and starts trying to talk. And his opening line was, how are you guys doing tonight? He thanks Tony Kahn for giving him time on television. When's the last time a major star thanked the promoter for giving them time on television? It should be, it's your pleasure that I'm on your fucking show.

But his whole promo was I sat at home thinking about what's best for me. I didn't want to be a guy that disappears with no explanation. I'm going to look you in the eye and tell you what I'm going to do. And you know what, I'm Daniel Garcia. I can do what I want to do, because I'm one of the best restaurants. wrestlers in the world. He said that with a straight face. So he's,

he's both a humble and braggadocious baby face. He's not in the top 50. No disrespect, but don't go, don't call yourself the best wrestler in the world if you're not even remotely in the conversation. It's not disrespect to acknowledge reality. And is he,

is he a better professional wrestler than you or me are as we sit here right now, probably? but not as the field goes overall. And the point is it was another inside promo that talked in circles because Brian, right as he builds up and says, so I've decided I'm going to stay where the best wrestle in AEW. And people go away, yay, but... They didn't know he was gone.

They have never said a word on this television program about Daniel Garcia's contract being up or contract being renewed or him staying or going or made any reference. And apparently MJF narrowly escaped having to do a job on the pay-per-view for this 10-can. And now we see in retrospect the reason why that Daniel Garcia didn't beat MJF was because his contract was coming up and they didn't know if he was staying. So MJF gets a win And then this fucking idiot Double tombstone pile drives him off the top rope or whatever And MJF is gone

We haven't seen him yet But we haven't seen Garcia since then Because his contract was coming up But he hadn't signed again So he couldn't come out and crow About beating MJF The Most Important Guy in a company On television

Because So what the fuck if you follow our programs and or the social media you would know that they've been talking about whether he's going to go to the WWE or stay there yeah and I believe I said the WWE if they made an offer for him it'd be just to bid Tony up because what are they going to do with this fucking guy but the point is they've never

they've never set this up he's talking to people assuming that they know when it's never been on the television show. And they do that all the time. And then he goes on a tirade that he's a new Daniel Garcia that AEW can build a future on. And I'll carry the company on by, and he's raving delusionally about beating everybody and being the champion and getting over.

And I'm afraid that this is a young man that is setting himself up for potential disappointment in the future. is my comment on that. The fuck. You may comment if you like. I, uh, you know, they have to grab whatever talent they can.

They have to keep whoever they can. Obviously he feels empowered by the contract and... He fits the definition of whoever they can. But you're right. It's something we talked about. And yeah, we have a lot of listeners, but you can't book your show for the podcast.

Why was he doing this promo at all? Why wasn't he just out there? You haven't seen me since I kicked this shit out of MJF. I've been thinking about who I want to kick the shit out of next. Nothing. Instead, it's this drama that wasn't needed on the show. Or he could have told the story. An explanation that wasn't needed.

Should have signed the contract and continue on. He could have told the story instead of talking in circles. And assuming that everybody already knew what he was talking about. Yeah, because he can't talk at a story. line. No, and he sounds, it just doesn't. It's a,

it's a young person that needs to be on local TV, if that, or whatever. But the point is, he could have said, I haven't been here since I beat, he didn't even remind everybody, I beat MJF,

that didn't come out. I haven't seen me since I beat MJF at whatever pay-per-view. And the reason for that is because my contract was coming up for renewal, and I had to make. serious life decisions about where I wanted to go. And then just tell everybody what the fuck. Instead of the circles and the assuming that everybody is smart and knows. A lot of these people ain't smarter, they wouldn't be watching this show.

All right. Can we skip Mercedes and Camille with Renee Moxley Good? Yeah, I mean, Renee did the Mercedes intro, which upset Mercedes, and Mercedes had the usual awful Mercedes promo. The usual awful Mercedes promo. Well, we're going to see more awful Mercedes later on. And then they showed, by the way, they showed Garcia, getting back to Garcia for a minute. They showed him walking down the fucking hallway in the back after he's made this big

pronouncement. And all the people clapping for him and high-fiving him were jobbers that never get on, including Cole Cabana. His face actually got on television. And then Shapoopy walks up another baby face and tells Garcia, or his phone, tells Garcia he's glad he's staying in AEW, and apparently they're going to wrestle. So again, two more baby faces are going to wrestle for a championship that I can't even remember which the fuck won it is. Neither one of them are champions. That's if Shibonah beats Jack Perry. Oh, that's a Shepoopee has to win the title first.

And then he'll defend against the Zabada. That's right. Oh, Christ on a crapper. Clearly. All right. I'm sorry I'll keep these things straight. I've only got a giant pad of paper and I've run through all my pins trying to figure out And you ought to see the Venn diagram and the chart on the wall with the strings and the pins in it.

What did you think about Willow versus Soraya versus Nala Rose versus Jamie Hater? Ooh. I only watched a little bit of it. With Harley Cameron in the corner and Maria May on color. And apparently this is because it was going to be Britt Baker against someone with the winner getting a title shot at the pay-per-view. and then Britt Baker, they said, got sick and couldn't make it to TV, or she found that she wasn't winning at the pay-per-view. One or the other.

I forget what it was. So they decided to throw in a four-way, because how can just one person take her place? You know, I always say it. I'll say it again, and I thought it also during the promo afterwards. Willow Nightingale's really good. I wish she was in WWE. Yeah, well, I watched a bit of this because they were using the tables and the chairs, too, by the way. In the girls' match.

and in the middle of the thing for apparently no good reason, Penelope Ford interfered. Remember Penelope Pitstop? She's back, or she's still there, apparently. She's still there, she never left. Have they been paying this girl for the past two or three years just to hang out at home and wait on future instructions? I could be wrong, but I believe she's someone who may have gone back to school,

continue her education on AEW's time. I could be wrong, though, but I think she's one of the names I heard. All righty, well, anyway, she got in a fight with one of the girls and off they went. And then Soraya and her stooge, Harley Cameron, were trying to slide a table in the ring, and they couldn't get the table in the ring. Well, that was Harley Cameron's fault. That was all her fault. Well, yeah, but well, because the leg, the leg dropped out and she's trying to push the table

into the ring underneath the bottom rope with the legs folded out where it's bumping up against the apron. And they finally the cameras had to get off of it. They shot everything else. They shot people laying on the ground out of the ring. They shot fucking

the concession stand. And finally they pulled it back out to the floor and then Harley folded up and got it slid in. And then this thing fell apart. I don't Willow came for and Harley by the way wasn't

really in the match but she's in the ring. because it's anything goes. No de cute, lazy booking. So Willow goes to double clothesline, Soraya and Harley, but Soraya just ignored the clothesline. It didn't go down, didn't do anything, and stood there while Willow ran and grabbed Harley

and ran Harley towards Soraya, and then Soraya took a couple steps to run into Harley on purpose. And then Willow powerbombed Harley but then Soraya was trying to schoolgirl, not school boy, but school girl. Willow, but she couldn't figure out how to do it. She almost did it from the wrong side,

and Willow had to spin around and fall over her, two count. And then Willow Death Valley drivered Soraya through a table and put Soraya on top of Harley and pinned both of them, even though Harley wasn't a participant in the match. And then Willow went up to the stage, but Maria May met her, and they had a face-off of some description, and then Maria swung, but Willow blocked it, so Maria just headbutted Willow and knocked her out and whipped her with the title belt. What a fucking mess!

When did Willow get potatoed? Was it in a match or with the belt? Who could tell? I mean, it may have been a double clothesline that she gave when they didn't know whether they were supposed to take it or not take it. Who knows what the fuck was going on? Anyway, that was that. Did you love the debut of Cody Chishun? He got a little more in than I thought he would have.

I was surprised by that. C-H-H-U-N. in. Boy, back in the old days when they took out newspaper ads, he'd be begging to be fucking misspelled, wouldn't he? Cody Chun versus light switch Jay White with Juice Robinson in his corner. And yeah, old Cody got a little bit in,

and then Jay White won, and then he got the microphone. And what did this last? Brian, about 12, 15 minutes. Ever did it just seem like it? Every time he talks, he just starts marching around and, Oh, I, I will do, oh yeah, he just keeps talking about himself. He's Robin Leach on Nitrus.

It's not good. Juice was great at ringside. Everything he did. Whenever there was a slow moment early on, Juice would all of a sudden be up on the apron. I thought he was really good here. The only time we get to see Juice do anything is when Jay White is gone, so I wish Jay White would leave again.

Why are they convinced that J, that Juce is the sidekick and J is the top guy? Because Jay was the bigger star in New Japan. Who gives a shit? Tony Kahn. Sick, got you there. Well, that's true. So, again, Juice. Antonio Canoki, that's who.

At least somebody would want to watch or listen to Juice Robinson because of his natural, quirky charisma. as opposed to Jay White? Against Adam Page. So now Jay White's the baby face. Right? Well, I guess.

So, then apparently Hook now is, he was in the back, and he was demanding that whoever jumped my father, reveal yourself to me. So I can smite you.

and he's doing that promo and then old Pip Sabian comes into the shot like he's running or backing up from somebody and bumps into Hook and hooks snatches him and says, is it you or whatever? And Pip's like, I know nothing, I know nothing. And he runs off and then you see

that he's been running away from Christian Cage and Mama Wayne and Nick Plain. And they establish that hook won't snitch Because Christian says, Did you see Pip Sabian and said, nope. Yeah, yeah. But why, if Pip Sabian is running from Christian Cage, then if he's on the wrong side of Christian Cage,

that would make him a baby face, but baby faces don't run like scared little pussies. So what is this guy? They're just having Pip run from Christian in a variety of ways. And this has been going on for a while too. A while. And it goes nowhere.

They just keep running. So Cage at this point says that they're looking for Pip Sabian. Have you seen him? No, no, I'm seeing him. Because he's not a snitch. But then Cage says, well, we've lost Dino-Dooche to a serious medical situation

so I can sympathize with you for losing your father. And they walked off. And the only newsworthy thing in this is apparently the lizard is really sick. Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what happened, but we heard that Luchosaurus or Kill Switch had, I think, pneumonia. And it's caused a series of issues where he's on oxygen. I read something, I want to say Brian Alvarez wrote it, and I may be getting it wrong. Maybe he said it, and I read the quote.

But it was, you know, he had to stop wrestling because he has to get over this. and he won't be wrestling anytime soon. He just returned to the gym and he won't be returning to the gym anytime soon. So when you hear that, you think it sounds really bad and, you know, get well soon. Jeez, that sounds awful. This company is remarkable for serious

and or possibly communicable illnesses also as well as the injury situation. Sounds like a scary situation. So far, nobody understands what's going on on this show. You can't. Unless you not only watch this show, but every other show they do, and every goddamn tweet they put out and everything they say on YouTube, and if you're on Tony's message board,

then you would still have a hard time keeping track of what's going on. That's the problem. Tony books for what he likes, and he also books for message board approval, not realizing that as such a small minority of the rest of the, audience that doesn't matter. When it comes to things to help a company or grow a company, Ring of Honor had plenty of message board approval.

And they didn't draw anyone. Exactly. And the people on the message board were pretty much the ones keeping them from drawing anybody. They didn't want anybody to join their private club. And then the funny thing was half the people in the message board were the wrestlers. Yeah, you had to under-assume name. That's right.

But anyway, so you talk about. We talked about Willow Nightingale. We like Willow, but nobody is producing poor Willow. Because if this was a live shot, I would never let these people on live again. If this was pre-taped, my God that they didn't redo it. But there's Renee Moxley Good in the back with Maria May, who doesn't have time to open her mouth before Willow comes in from off-screen and gives her the big shoulder tackle.

and knocks her ass over tea kettle out of the frame and then turns and looks at the camera and says Maria Maria is down on the floor to your left but she cut the promo to the camera about Maria while Maria was at her feet on the floor neither moving nor talking

it was like the shoulder tackle was a fatal blow. And... But at least she'll see the tape so she gets to hear what Willow had to say. Yes, as soon as Maria watches TV again, you know, and when she sees the program played back, she'll know what... Did you catch that or were you zoned out by this point? No, I watched it. I thought it was a good promo from Willow all things considered she was busted up.

Is it a good promo if the woman was on in TV land watching instead of laying at your fucking feet. Now that I've got you down at my feet and helpless, I'm going to put you on notice that I will thrash you at a later date. You may have a point. You may have a point. That's the thing with AW, even when they get like a part of it right,

everything around it is completely wrong. Well, speaking of if this next shit was right, then I want to be wrong more often. for some one of the women's titles that they have here Mercedes Moon with Camille against Emmy Sakura Emmy Sakura it's good to see that Margaret Cho found work oh stop it

what the for Mercedes looks like Mildred Burke all of a sudden next to Emmy Sakura she's not dressed like Freddie Mercury anymore but it seemed like she had like piano keys on her skirt so she's still involved with music. Good to see. You know what Emmy Sakura would have if she had nuts on her chest? Chestnuts.

You know what Emmy Sakura would have if she had nuts on the wall? Wall nuts. You know what Emmy Sakura would have if she had nuts on her chin? That's exactly right. Why do these idiots think that this Japanese outlaw

girl bullshit should be on national television. They all look like they're doing a Saturday night live sketch. The funny faces they make and the poses and the sloppy work and the ridiculous outfits and usually there's

a size issue that they're 5' foot nothing and weigh 62 pounds. That's not the case here with the Japanese you know, Rosie O'Donnell. Hey. are international wrestlers who are not living in the States,

who come to the States, work for AEW and go back home, are they part of the putative class for the potential class action lawsuit where we were figuring out the other day, the salaries, and who's included, who's not? Like at Emmy Sakura, if she lives in Japan and comes to AEW and works a few times a year and goes home, is she part of the $290?

No, because she would be. be an independent contractor. Right. Unless there was some exclusivity here in this country on her contract or agreement that violated across some line.

But yeah, so they're paying these people are not even figured into those tens of millions of dollars they paid to other people. But it's just and they've been doing this for five years. Who wants to see these clown show pretend wrestlers?

I can understand when old twinkle toes was around. Kenny loved them. They're all his personal friends, but he's not there anymore. Can't we get a little relief? Is this a sign? Kenny's about to come back. Good Lord. What does he follow these around? If Rejo shows up on AEW TV within the next month, do you think Kenny Omega is absolutely coming back? It would be a good indication. It's like she's the canary in the coal mine. And here comes the other fucking Tweety Bird. But so did you see where Mercedes tried to run old Emmy Sakura's head into the turnbuckle and she missed the turnbuckle by foot with her own head?

I did see that. Her own fucking head. She could not run into a stationary target. She sold it. The thing was not moving. It was not on a fucking swivel. It was her head. The head is connected to her body.

She should have been able to flung her fucking head into a goddamn immovable object. I would have to think flung her fucking. headed to the turnbuckles, one of the early things you would learn after learning how to, you know, do the basic stuff in wrestling school. Well, and they claim she's a trainer. The announcer say she trains that, I can believe it, from seeing all these other fucking half-priced fucking discount, great value. Outlaw fucking women.

This screaming Pillsbury Doe Girl, fat fucking bowl of Japanese pudding, at one point she came up behind Camille and gave Camille five fake head rams into the railing. So now Camille's aura is ruined because she was selling obviously fake shit before she's ever been physically challenged.

And especially by this middle-aged Ozimic patient. I don't know if she's on Ozempic. Well, maybe it's the opposite of that that makes you gain weight. What's that? Lard injected directly into her veins, I guess. And then suddenly out of basically nowhere, Camille tripped,

Emmy and Mercedes got a half-ass chin lock with no leverage that looked fake as fuck because the fat girl could have just turned right out of it and she tapped out. so then the heels went to beat her up further but music played and here comes chris stantlander and she had a brief flurry with camille and then camille took a great bump over the top rope and again especially because they were going to knew they knew they were going to do this finish if anybody here knew what they were doing emmy succour would have never touched Camille. Because why would you let, again, this fat, dumpy,

underneath, sloppy, fake-looking, fucking girl have offense on Camille, who is the bodyguard of your big investment, and you know you're going to do something with your other big girl, Chris Stantlander. What the fuck? And Chris Stantlander and Camille could be a great deal, not in this company.

because nobody knows what they're doing or how to build anything, and not to start it after one of the worst women's wrestling matches that's ever been televised. So they got that going for them. Did you like it? No, of course I didn't like it. What kind of question is that? Well, I'm trying to make sure I'm not the only one.

You know, Mercedes-Money is dead in the water, and then you add Emmy Sakura. Tony's got the big TV money. what is the first thing he, who's the first person he brings into TV? Emmy Sakura. And now that I know Mercedes is bald, I can't not look for it. Well, no, she's not bald. It's just she has her hair, like, take down.

She's wearing a fucking wig. Over her own hair. Well, if you're wearing a wig, you're... She's not bald. If you're wearing a wig, you're either bald or close to it. Well, no, she just wants to look flashy. She needs to, you know, not everyone could be a sexy red. Anyway, I keep waiting for her fucking hair to fall off now.

See, that's what makes the match is good now. And why doesn't one of the, I was about to say one of the heels, but she's the heel. I mean, Sukuro was the baby face here. I didn't even realize. Well, that's it. I'm just telling you. All right, you want to talk about the Osprey interview? Yeah, I guess this is one of the big things on the show.

Okay, so Tony Chivani's in the ring with Will Osprey. Last week, our friend, Take a Shit, had jumped Osprey and Rickashay and ruined their match. It was double disqualification thrown out, whatever. The question Tony's asking Osprey, do you think, was Don Fowless behind this? Did he send take in there? And Osprey say, yeah, you know, we thought we'd get this settled, but now, me and Rickashay are equal because of the interference. No, they should have never said that because you're equal with a fucking underneath guy. Jesus Christ, know how to be a main event guy.

Say, we could have settled things, and I was on the way to win and win whatever, but nevertheless. Osprey says, I want answers from Don. Get Don out here. And Don comes out to the horrible one-cord music again. So is he back to be in a heel now because he's been a jovial beneficiary? color commentator. For some of the matches we've seen recently, he hasn't been heelish or done anything. He gets in the ring and he goes to hug Osprey and Osprey refuses the hug and then

Don starts trying to talk and the AEW audience has picked up the Dominic Mysterio thing and they boo over him so he has to yell over him. But Osprey's trying to badger it out of him. Did you sin take a shit? Yes or no? and Don's like, you don't need to know, you need to know this. And no, no, no, did you send him? And they go back and forth and finally Don says, yes.

Yes, I sent him. Because you wouldn't listen. So I showed you who makes the decisions in the family. Brian, didn't he just let Osprey out of the family a couple months ago when Osprey went up and said, Hey, Don, I'd like to be out of the family? Yeah, that's what happened. and then he was out of the family but then Don asked him to team with Felcher

for the tag team tournament but since they didn't win the tag team titles they no longer team so why does Osprey need to listen to Don to begin with? He doesn't He doesn't, yeah, yeah, yeah, I realize you're actually asking he doesn't.

It's ridiculous. and the whole thing doesn't make any sense who's the baby face, who's the heel, why is this guy on this guy's side? Why are these people teeming against these other people when they don't like each? It has been incoherent. And so then Don said he was mad

that Osprey wouldn't use the screwdriver. And Osprey was pissed at Don, and they continued breaking up, and then finally, Don slapped Osprey, and Osprey gave Don a flying beel across the ring, and then there's Take a Shit. And he jumps Osprey. But Osprey starts fighting back, and then here comes Felcher.

But Felcher is friends with Osprey, so Osprey won't hit him, but as he turns, take suplexes, Osprey and then Don tells Kyle to stab Osprey with a screwdriver. Boy, I wonder if he took that flying beale across the ring

with a screwdriver in his pocket. Can you imagine if he just stood up and had impaled his fucking heart? So Kyle refuses to stab Osprey with the screwdriver because even though Don is his manager and he's a heel, he's friends with Osprey who's the baby face that's getting the shit kicked out of him by his other friend in the family, take a shit who's a heel.

And then take a shit just knocks a shit out of Osprey. And then Rickashay comes out and Take a shit bales out and Rickashay gives the belt to Osprey, who is back up and apparently in possession of his faculties. What the fuck is going on here? The Callas family coming apart, and you have to wonder if Fletcher will eventually turn on Osprey, as they've been teasing for a while, or if he'll also leave the Callis family, who apparently is members we didn't even know about. He sold several to Jake Roberts earlier this episode that we've never seen him with.

Well, he had those people just hanging out in the warehouse. He put them on clearance. I don't know why anyone who watches AEW would take Don Callis seriously. He's a heel. He's a face. He's on commentary. just telling jokes with the other commentators. But he is a screwdriver.

You know, all of this would have been a lot more tolerable if it was like anything else. You know, if it was a brick, if it was a rock, like Darby used, that would be more tolerable than a screw, something that could kill the person right away. It's bad. The Don Callas stuff has always been poorly thought out. Well, let's go to our main event.

We had a little bit more conversation in the back with people that we don't care about. And then came the big match, the tag match, Brian Danielson and Wheeler Useless against Claudio Castignoli and his friend Pack. So two of the six-man tag team champions are teaming up against one of the other six-man champion and their ex-friend, Brian Danielson.

And same kind of match that you see here from these people all the time now with useless who they again is another guy even Garcia looks like Lex Lugar next to Wheeler here but another guy that because he can do some moves that you could train a chimpanzee to do

suddenly he's going to be a pillar of the community and the promotion and they are trying to jam him and shoehorn him down everybody's throats and into our hearts, and it ain't never going to work, but it doesn't have to,

because they don't need to make any money. They just get paid the money, and they already have the money. But this degenerated into another thing with the plumber and this whole fucking whatever Tarantino film he's writing in his head, Danielson makes comeback on Claudio and suddenly sees the plumber and Marina Schaefer at ringside

and that causes him to run into Claudio's upper cut but that's a two count and then Pack gives him the 450 splash and that's a two count and then everything grinds to a halt because at that point Marina Schaefer jumps up and draws the corpse referee they had to have knocks involved in this.

And Pack gets a hammer and goes into the ring and backs right up way far away from the guy that he was going to hit with the hammer and draws the hammer back over his shoulder so he telegraphed a mile away that Wheeler standing there can grab it. And then they stared at each other. And while they were staring at each other,

Danielson got the Label lock on Pack and he tapped. and then Danielson is the one that jumped Moxley out on the floor and they fought to the back and the camera was following them so you were in the ring you were treated to either Marina Schaefer beaten up useless or Claudio giving him fake gut shots with a hammer

while they were cutting to the back in the parking area with Danielson and Moxley doing another one of the many fights that they all do in the back of the arena and then Danielson and Moxley fight back into the arena so that they can get in the ring and

Danielson can clear the ring and stand there leading the people in finger pointing yes chance while poor Wheeler that's been beaten in the stomach with a hammer is laying behind him and he ain't noticing a goddamn like he don't know that Wheeler is living on this earth

right at that point. And then right as before they go off the air, he turns around, oh, Wheeler, are you okay? Yeah, I'm just puking up blood. But what that's what that was. Did I miss any of the fine points?

I don't think so. And, you know, there's been a real problem, and I thought about it during the promo earlier in the show, and I've thought about it for a while now. Brian Danielson's devaluation which is only partly Tony Consfeld. A lot of it's Brian Danielson's fault.

Mm-hmm. Continues. And there's a fucking record of it now. Look at the ratings. When he's in the overrun or any of his segments, no one is excited to see him or anything he's doing right now. His matches have become long, plotting, boring things for the most part. Some people will really still dig them,

but it's a diminishing audience. He's got this feudal Mockesley. No one cares. This is the only thing they've been doing on this show that's a real feud, had no buzz. No one was going to watch to see it. Yuda is another one of these guys they're spending all this time on.

It just isn't going to happen. Claudio, no one cares about. Marina Shafir is interesting because they've really not established what her role in any of this is. And then Moxley and Danielson. Brawling in, brawling out. Moxley and Danielson were in the same group

for years, it seemed like. And then he puts a plastic bag over Danielson's head and doesn't bother to come out and tell us exactly why he did that. He confuses us with all his blah, blah, blah. So there's no focus on why did this happen? What could Danielson

have done to allegedly deserve this? Why did Moxley make this decision? Whose side was everybody on? We know that Wheeler was left in the dark, it's just it's just it's indie movie you know acting of auditions for moxley who delivers these incoherent statements very convincingly if you had a clue what he was talking about it might be good instead he just speaks in riddles and nothing ever goes anywhere at least he sold a little bit for Danielson. I don't know if he sold too much for other people, but

the gardeners are here, and that's a perfect way to end this. That's the EW. Dynamite. The go-home show for the pay-per-view. Where everybody went home. All right. That's the time travel today, ladies and gentlemen. Well, that sounds like music of some sort. Sounded like an old man with a tin leg. I guess it depends how you sort it, and if that's the category you put it in,

it doesn't sound really appealing. But Jim, Speaking of appealing, let's find out how appealing this week's ratings are. Now, it's a big ratings story, because again, it's week two of NXT versus AEW in terms of the overall picture, but AEW is actually head-to-head with the second hour of NXT, and AEW had a few other things, ratings-wise. Well, now, let's put it all out there, to be fair, it was a new night for them, Tuesday night instead of Wednesday. So that hurts, and we had hurricanes going on as well as, you know, other things,

so that could hurt everybody. But then again, they did this last year, and they had a Titty Tuesday on Dynamite or Title Tuesday or whatever it was, and they still did a pretty sizable audience. So there's things working positively and negatively, and we're going to see how this shook out. But apparently it was a real shaky shakeout this week for our friends over in Jacksonville. Well, why don't we start with our,

well, your friends in Connecticut. They're not my friends. But WWNXT. Hey, who, who's, I like Adam Pierce. After that, you know, things go downhill. Well, this is WWNXT on CW week two, October 8th, 2024. Jim, on average, from 8 to 10 p.m.,

874,000 viewers. Oh, boy, howdy. That's a pretty good number. And now, you know, we said that, well, AEW was on an unfamiliar night, but nobody's been bringing up that, yeah, NXT's only been on this station for two weeks. So there's a little disruption there. One night was the vice presidential debate.

That was it. There's been a lot of competition, so you didn't know what to think. Week one is usually a big, number week one for the record was 200, excuse me, was 895,000 viewers, according to WrestleMania, down 2% this week. So they only lost 21,000 people, which is kind of at, at those numbers, and the margin of error. Quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m., a recap of previous events, Trick Williams and Jay Uso's Live Angle, if we are going to call it, these were compiled by WrestleMania. And an ad break,

941,000 viewers. Ooh. And I would have said this is network television, if you can call CW a network. And that means that their lead-in is basically local programming. 730 to 8, it's primetime adjacency. So you know what the lead-in was here? What? Big Bang Theory.

I swear to God, I'm not so hard. Was that everywhere? Is that, because they don't have... No, that's a local thing. It's New York. Well, see, that's what I'm saying. It might not be the Big Bang Theory everywhere. It might be anything the local station is programming at 7.30 or 630 Central or whatever, everywhere. Well, we go to quarter 2, 815, 8.30 p.m.

The Bianca Bellaire, J. Cargill, and Kalani Jordan versus Fatal Influence match with... No Pictures and Pictures. Just three. ad break 940,000 viewers. Okay, so again, they're departing heavily from the pattern of AEW Big Bang Theory or No, where they only lost

1,000 people in the first 15 minutes, or first 30. And they gained in the key demo. They started to 318. They went to 337. We got a quarter 3.830 to 8.45. The Axiom, Nathan Fraser, Randy Orton backstage angle. Angle. They were conversing in a mild manner. Julia's backstage promo.

An ad break. The Roxanne Perez, Corrachet, Julia, Stephanie Vakour live angle. The no-quarter catch crew, Lexus King backstage angle. Oh, that's what those people's names were. No-quarter catch crew. All right.

927,000 viewers. Good God, that's a gift from the gods. They only lost 13,000 for that, Stu. By the way, high point in the key demo, 351. Good Lord. Quarter 4, 845 to 9 p.m. began with an ad break, and then the start of Obafemi versus Tony DeAngelo with another ad break in the middle of the match. 891,000 viewers. Okay, so it took them 45 minutes just to lose,

50,000 people and drop below 900. So they're retaining much of the audience that they started with, and I assume from the average that it's not going to go too much farther down from here. Well, we go to 9 o'clock, the big 9 o'clock hour, quarter 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m.

The continuation of Femi versus DeAngelo, the Lola Vice Jada Parker backstage angle. Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets. The Lola Vice Ava Nikita Lions backstage angle. Wasn't there a 70s girl wrestler on the outlaws?

She wasn't with Mula named Lola Kiss? I don't know. I never heard that name. Seems like I remember that, but go ahead. Nikita Lions returns in the backstage angle. And then Belair, Cargill, Jordan, have a confrontation

with Lash Legend and Jakara Jackson. 858,000 viewers. Okay, a lot of girls on the program. They're suffering like AEW does. Too many girls. Quarter six, 915, and 9.30 p.m. Axiom and Nathan Frazier versus Aetown Down Under through an ad break, and then another ad break.

Good Lord. 811,000 viewers. Boy, when you read it out just flat like that, I know we took the piss out of it going over it, but it sounds even worse when you just read the bare statistics. So now they've lost 130,000 people and 47,000 just in that 15 minutes. Now, at quarter five, and at the top of the hour, not NXT, but AEW was on.

So did they lose 70 or 80,000 or 80,000 people tuning over? to the opposite direction. We will find out when we go through the quarters on it, or did they just leave and do something else with their life? Well, we go to the, the quarter. We go to quarter seven, 930 to 9.45 p.m. A Chase You video. That chased me off.

The Ridge Holland Chase You backstage angle. Yeah, I was zoning out on all this shit. A recap. And the sexy red Ethan Page Javon Evans' live angle. Good Lord. Followed by an ad break. 784,000 viewers.

Okay, and I'm not surprised. So now they're getting into AEW territory, 160, 157,000 people down from the start of the show. And finally, quarter 8, 945,000 to 10 p.m. Network TV, they ain't going to be any more overtimes. overrines, overruns. Randy Orton versus Javan Evans. There's an ad break.

And the Ethan Page, Ava, Wesley, backstage angle, 838,000 viewers. The power of Randy Orton, 38, 48, 48, 54,000 people came back. So they started,

at 941, they ended at 833, and they only had one quarter below 800, which was very late in the show. So there wasn't the attrition that the AEW programs get most of the time, but still they lost, what, 103,000 or about, what is that, doing math in my head, 12, 13% of the audience they started with. So it's not 25 or 30, but they lost some. They picked up some at the end.

Obviously, they had Randy Orden, but when you're on network TV or on, you know, broadcast, how much of the gain at the end of the show is because of what's on or is because people are waiting for the 10 o'clock news? On the CW stations? On the CW stations? I wouldn't imagine there's a clamoring for the local news on the CW affiliates. That's just my experience as a television person. They got Citi Tong on the weekends, but yeah, that was the NXT.

I don't, in all honesty, I don't think that our CW station, and I'd have to check the cable guide. I don't think they have news because it is a subsidiary of one of the other major stations in town that has news. So the only way they would have news is if they're putting the other stations news on their feed. Well, Jim, let's talk about the AEW week of ratings. Of course, last week, as Dynamite was getting ready to air, they announced the deal. The media rights deal, the extension for three years and a fourth year option, I believe, for 555 million or so.

Thereabouts, who's counting? I bet they wish they had one bill fill right now, but 550 million or so. And then what were the viewers going to watch the rest of the week, or did they watch, I guess, is the question. AEW Rampage on TNT Friday, October 4th, 2024, 10 to 11 p.m. I believe that's the normal time slot.

Yes. On average, 216,000 viewers. Oh, Jesus Christ. It is the lowest overall number and the lowest in the key demo since August 2nd. Just so you know the lineup here,

Shibata and Private Party versus the elite from 10 to 10, 15 p.m. to 242,000 viewers. 1015 to 1030. Continuation of that. Statlander and Camille do an angle, an ad break, Harley Cameron does a promo, Zoe Lynn versus Camille, post-match with Mercedes-Money. Wait a minute, wait a minute. They brought Camille in to be the bodyguard of their high-priced acquisition Mercedes. And not only is Camille getting beat up by some pudgy Japanese dough girl on dynamite, but she's already wrestling and on the least important television program of the company?

What the fuck is the matter with these people? Well, again, the post-match with Mercedes-Money, an Anna-J promo, a Deanna Parazo and Taya Valkyrie promo 210,000 viewers below 100,000 now in the key demo with 95 Quarter 3 Queen Amanata versus Harley Cameron Picture and picture and full screen ads

The Post match with Serena Deeb and Britt Baker And then the acclaimed and Billy Gunn did a promo in the back followed by another ad break 194,000 viewers 83,000 in the key demo. And finally, 1045 to 11 p.m. Big Bill and Brian Keith versus Kyle O'Reilly and Orange Cassidy.

Picture and picture postmatch with Chris Jericho and Rocky Romero, 219,000 viewers. 88,000 in the key demo. Thoughts on that Friday night ramp? But you were the Booker when there was a Friday night show on Turner television and you had other established shows.

Well now wait a minute. Don't say I was the Booker. It's all your fault. I was working on the, on the, the creative team. And yes, at the Friday night, and I was the co-host along with Jim Ross of the Friday night power hour. And the commercials that we aired did five times these amount of viewers. So it's not just Friday night. Well, that was AEW. ARA. page. A.W. Collision. Saturday, October 5th, 2024, 8 to 10 o'clock, or 10 p.m. as we should say here.

Regular time. Regular time. 269,000 viewers on average. Good Lord. A new low in the key demo for a non-preemption collision and the lowest numbers since September 14th and the second lowest ever. non-preemption, excuse me. Now they went head-to-head with bad blood on Peacock, as well as college football and baseball, and DoorDash, and everything else. At all-night gas station. Real quick, let's go through these quarters

so you could see what was booked on this show. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m., Johnny TV versus Darby Allen, post match with Brody King, and then an Outrunner's FTR video, 284,0,883. 3,000 in the key demo. That's how they opened.

Grizzle Young Veterans versus Outrunners, picture and picture. Recap, 254. Quarter 3, 838.45 p.m. and ad break. Willow and the conglomeration promo? Willow and the conglomeration, that sounds like a 60s fucking religious band. Well, then Willow versus Tricia Dora

with picture and picture on a post match with Mariah May, 249. quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. Wheeler Yuda pack and Claudio's backstage angle. An ad break, Mariah May and Christopher Daniels' backstage angle. Wheeler Yuda. I don't know who this is. Wheeler Uta versus beef.

Beef? All in caps. Do they have beef with beef now? All in caps, beef. Beef. And following beef is hook. With a backstage promo, followed by a recap, 259. Oh, the meat hook brought 10,000 people back to the show.

And then they kind of rest into a pretty steady place. The premier athletes versus the conglomeration, picture and picture, post-match, with Rocky Romero and Mark Sterling, Lance Archer and Don Callis Angle and ad break 275 at 9 o'clock, 915. They go to 277 for Mercedes, Statland, Camille's angle. Hologram versus Commander versus Nick Wayne

versus Action Andretti. Why, he's still there? With picture and picture. 930 to 945. The match continues. The Beast Mortos. Undisputed Kingdom angle. Zoe Lynn versus Chris Statlander.

Postmatch, Mercedes, Camille, Darby. No, excuse me. Darby has a promo and an ad break, 279. They close at 279. for Top Flight versus Private Party versus the House of Black with picture and picture. So before we get to Dynamite...

Well, now say what you want, but that's the most consistent program that they have aired. They started at 240 or 284. The lowest they got was 249, and then they finished up at 272. So all they need to do is start out with nobody watching to begin with, and they won't lose any viewers.

If you have a show that you know doesn't have viewers, and it's tough to get them back in the door of the ones that were there before, what do you do? Because obviously from reading these lineups, especially collision, it's a lot of stuff that ended up referenced on dynamite or comes off dynamite.

And Dynamite spends a lot of time promoting rampage and collision. It doesn't seem to help. What do you do? I mean, you have this B show, should you have dynamite kind of exist on its own? What would you do if you have a B show that people don't watch? Well, they've got a C show that people don't watch and a B show that a lot of people don't watch.

And they're at least getting rid of Rampage, and that's a good idea. And if they, what do they think they're going to do if they sell somebody else a new program? How is it going to be better than Rampage? with Saturday and Wednesday they had an idea of making different talents so if you like

you know the house of black then you got to watch on Saturday night or whatever but obviously they're not deep enough in talent they've got plenty of guys and girls but nobody's over because of Tony's insistence on booking to the smallest common denominator and throwing everything out there

slow it fucking down. Because nobody, you're just wasting your time having sock face rattle off a bunch of endless matches with a graphic on Wednesday that you're going to see on Saturday because who can keep track of all this shit anyway? The smallest group

that's going to even take more notes than I do. So slow down, calm down, concentrate on getting your top talent on both shows and have things that happen on Wednesday continue on Saturday and then branch off to the next Wednesday where they're going to be resolved potentially

fewer guys that people can focus on in shit that matters and that interests them interacting with the other talent and then you know eliminate the fucking bottom 75 fucking goofs that nobody gives a shit about that pop up every once in a while

and focus on who you think might draw you some ratings or some interest and don't have them all hitting each other with sledgehammers and cricket bats every goddamn week because it's just endless

it's repetition over and over with angles and chaos and every match ends in the heels, whether they win or lose, they're going to jump the baby faces. Every interview, somebody's going to run out and get in a fight. Every backstage interview, somebody's going to run from six feet away that the person being interviewed never saw and blindside him.

How many people have been run over with cars in this company? It's just, you can't, it means nothing because it's just miscellaneous chaos. So that's the problem. It's not the time slots or even the roster. The roster is too big, but the people that mean something don't mean anything. What do you think of anything? And again, we'll talk dynamite ratings in a second. What can be done to freshen up the show?

You have a reality there that you're not going to draw a lot of fans to a dynamite, for the most part. Every now and then you'll get when they get like 4,000 people or 6,000 people. but the crowds are going down, especially when they return to a market. The crowds go down. We just saw an NXT, there are small rooms you can get and make them look good. But the biggest thing that happened to WWE was Lee Fitting, coming on as executive producer,

and everyone who raved for years by WWE production realized how behind the times the top end of the production was. Yeah. Everything looked good, but it could look a whole lot better, and connect the whole lot better. Feel just live all the time. AW looks the same, even though, you know, they have a different,

Michael Mansoury came in after the fact, right? It opened with Keith Mitchell and directing it, I think, right? Yeah, and Keith retired from what I understand, and whoever this other fellow is that was working for Kevin Dunn. So now WWEs moved away from Kevin Dunn. They look like Stephen Spielberg, And I mean, you know, the show looks, it looks professional AEW, but there's only, I mean, they make some puzzling production errors at times. Well, yeah, but there's only so much you can do with a, you know, a 10 or 12 or 15 or 20,000 seat building with two or three or four thousand people in it.

And otherwise, as you mentioned, you know, maybe this guy is good for government work, as they say. but maybe they need somebody else with a more... You know, if you're making an independent film and you know you haven't got a $100 million Hollywood Blockbuster budget, don't put a scene in your movie where you're trying to part the Red Sea unless you can pay for it.

Their indie movies can be artful and can look fucking great and can, you know, change the game or what. whatever. But, you know, if you don't have the budget for the multimillion dollar CGI special effects or whatever, don't try to make that movie. If you're not able to put 20,000 people into 20,000 seat building, don't try to do that. Try to give your thing a look that fits either your budget or your resources or your ability to draw people. So, yeah, smaller buildings with an underground look and

some cool avant-garde cinematographer that may can give them a different look, that could help out. I don't even think it has to be underground. It just has to look like there's energy. Well, I say underground, like, you know, like Dobokato. No, I'm not talking about raw underground. I'm talking about like a fucking underground indie record label that does really good music or, you know, Dolph Ramser, somebody like that, or whatever.

Dobokato. That makes it look different, but you've still got to have the content, the substance. You can't just have a bunch of miscellaneous guys in Halloween masks running around doing cartwheels. You have to have something that people really want to watch because it's that person. It's that star. It's that angle. It's that program between two guys or whatever. And the booking is not going to change because Tony can't change.

And they still have fans that love them. And you know that the ticket sales really don't matter. If they mattered, maybe they would care more and pay closer attention to marketing, promoting, selling tickets, promoting shows that sell tickets. They care how many people buy tickets for the pay-per-view. But Dynamite, like you see, said they're running these big buildings, why not own it? You know, we're doing an AEW theater tour for the next 12 weeks. Small buildings, exclusive tickets, the most exclusive ticket in wrestling.

And every building has a different look and customize it. If you get 750 of your most vocal fans in there and it's a small building, you can make it look good and make it look cool, just something. Instead of just these giant dead buildings and everything feels dead. And there's some fans there that really like it. But when you're like the lone person screaming in a big empty building, it doesn't help the broadcast at all. It's no, when

the announcers have to go to the golf voice because they don't want to be heard over the silent crowd, but and that's, and even Uncle Dave this week wrote a an open letter to Tony Kahn in the observer and, you know,

disguised it as reporting on the the situation. but it's a letter to Tony. About he, Tony needs to, it's not Dave, it's Tony. Tony needs to do some things

in this relationship for it to be able to work. Because even Uncle Dave is admitting the things that we have been saying. Of course he'll still, for a while, he'll put a paragraph in there like now Tony has still made more money than God

and he's a genius, but, and then he goes four more paragraphs about everything that's wrong. that we've been talking about is wrong, that they can't make stars, that their ticket buying patrons are dwindling.

Hey, can I ask you about that? The idea that throughout wrestling history, what are your thoughts on the first sign that, and obviously it's a different world now because of ratings, but the first sign that there's a problem is always ticket sales. Yeah. And it's been clear that AEW has a company-wide problem for a while.

Again, I think sometimes they're able to pretend it's not there. Not everything's Wembley, but, you know, they're about to get like 7,000 people for their pay-per-view in Washington. That's a pretty good crowd. Maybe it'll be 8,000. But then they're going to go back to like 1,500. And who knows how many of those are comps for dynamite in a big NBA arena. So they kind of like lie to themselves that, look, we're doing great, Wembley.

And then like the rest of the year, all those crowds together equal. Wembley. Maybe. Maybe. 52 weeks a year. Well, no, this year, this year they'll more than equal Wembley. Yeah, this year they will. Well, that's the thing. It is true. Ticket sales were always, before pay-per-view was even a thing. Ticket sales were your lifeblood because that's how you made your money, but you could tell when interest in the product was going down because the most dedicated fans, the ones who usually came and bought tickets every week or every two weeks or every month, whatever the schedule was, they started slacking off. Nobody paid attention to the ratings because it was all local ratings anyway,

as long as your local station was happy. But the ratings usually, even till the end of a territory, were still massive by today's numbers especially, but even massive by those numbers. because, as Teeny Jarrett used to say, wrestling fans are creatures of habit. So they would continue to watch the TV show because it's what they did every week, and they had for years and years. And they wanted to see who was going to be coming to the Mid-South Coliseum Monday night or whatever. But there were periods where either the talent or the angles or whatever would cool off

and your houses would be down until you could find a new guy to come in, a new angle to shoot, a new program to start with your top guys that would turn things around. You didn't really lose the TV audience until the place was ready to go under. And that didn't happen all that much.

Think about how many territories actually without being in a war or whatever, just, suddenly went out of business in the territory days. Not that fucking many. Not too many. And usually it was because Sheik and Bruiser got too old and all their friends

got too old. Or something like that. So the fans always watch the TV. But that's the thing. They can't keep these people watching the TV. But the ticket sales are the first indication because

if you can't get your most dedicated fans to go and see you live, then the average person that has a life and kids and don't really care and don't have time ain't going to sit down and stop everything to watch the TV show. See, that's their biggest problem.

There are a lot of fans who were dismissed who didn't really like AEW, who really spoke for a larger fan base, who don't talk to wrestling fans online or anything. People ignored a lot of the things, and the first thing that happened was they burned off whatever you want to call them, casual fans. W.W.E.

fans willing to check out something else. Because W.W. Sucked for a while and they were ready to see something new. And even with a few familiar names, they'd give it a chance. That started things? The company drama, which didn't look good for AEW? I mean, look at the trajectory of the company since they aired the CM Punk Jack Perry footage. It's astounding.

The crowds, the ratings, everything went down. Which, which, and again, the good. there was two possible reactions from the people who knew what the whole story was and were on the internet and knew what was going on, they just thought, well, this is the stupidest thing they've ever done to show this. And for the people who didn't know, they didn't do anything to explain it, and it was equally as stupid. And now they started losing some of their fans, some of the people who really loved the

company and stole by a pay-per-view. They started saying, you know, there are other things I could do. on this night. And even their YouTube numbers aren't as strong as they used to be. It's the same thing. It's not wrestling. It's this brand of wrestling and the booking. There's only so much of an audience for big matchups,

not based around feuds or titles or reason. Well, besides that, can we say something out loud here that nobody else is saying? Because Dave will say it, even when he's saying, well, they need to create stars and they need to create stars and they need to promote the towns better and they did this and that. They have great matches. No, they don't have great matches. Even the WWE

right now, they ain't having a ton of great matches. It's there and the stars are over and you know, they're on a roll but the idea that AEW is just putting together great matches, but that alone won't that is assuming

that any knucklehead thinks that hologram and the cosmic commander, what's his whoever the general Zod, whatever his fucking name is. Remember the Cosma commander of wrestling he was a manager in the Indies? Cosmo. Okay, well, Kramer, whoever.

The point is, these ain't great matches. These are not great wrestling matches. These are goddamn indie-rific clown show goddamn matches. And that's a big thing also because most people, even at watch wrestling programs, don't want to see two miscellaneous children

doing gymnastics. It's just not a thing that a lot of people are going to want to look at. So these are not great wrestling matches. They're great exhibitions of tumbling or whatever the fuck they are. Or they call great matches

where the guy stuck the fucking hypodermic needle in the other guy's face. Sorry, that's not a great match. You know, we don't have an answer to this just thinking out loud as Swami barks at the mailman. But Rickashay comes over here, and he has that match with Osprey, and it's a rematch of matches they had on the Indies that fans went crazy for, we saw the memes. You remember the clips that were going around, whatever, eight years ago, nine years ago?

Yeah, it stunk then, and it was worse when they were eight years older, but go ahead. But I guess the AWC core audience is the fan that went crazy for that and wanted more of that style of wrestling. If you're a W.W.E. fan who only knows RICOE from W. or NXT. and all of a sudden you're watching this and he's not having a match that in any way as competitive it's more just, it's my turn to do something now you do something.

I could do what you do, you do what I do. It's a show and again it's not a dream match to an audience that doesn't give a shit about what happens on the Indies or what happened eight years ago. Yeah, no, the Rock versus Roman Reigns is a dream match, right?

These are nightmare matches. So that's the point is that they're saying well great matches alone but no a lot of these are not great matches you just think they are because this is the kind of wrestling you've been watching and you've apparently never seen the good shit and that's a small group of people

so I wish everybody would quit saying great matches alone some great matches would help they had they had punk and MJF they had FTR and Robinson and Switchblade or lights switch or whatever is if I can't even remember what I call him now. Bing bang. Bing bang.

Wala, bing bang. You know, they, yes, they have some great matches, but the people, or the matches that most of these people say are great matches,

are not great fucking matches. They're rotten, goddamn bullshit indie matches. Well, look at the bucks. And that's what's keeping them from growing. Look at the bucks is the greatest example of that, because those are the matches that Dave's loved more than anything.

They have, you know, five-star matches up to gazoo. for matches that were just average. The 13-time tag team of the year in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. But you could talk about how great you think their matches are. The crowds now are getting to the level

Ring of Honor was when they left Ring of Honor and took everyone and started AEW with Tony Khan. So how great are their matches? No one's paying to see them. Besides that, I've always used this example going back 25 years, because it's always been true. and I used it with the WWF say,

okay, when we were in the NWA trying to fight the war in the 80s, okay, we're the Boston Celtics, they're the Harlem Globetrotters. We're serious about this. This is sport to us. It's a show up there. It's entertainment wrestling. That was the delineation. But the same thing is true.

If the Harlem Globetrotters were still a goddamn major deal today if Metal Arc Lemon and Curly Neal were still alive, you still wouldn't go to see them if they were in town 45 times, right? Because it's a show, you laugh, you like the wizardry of the passes,

the dribbling routine, the bucket, is it going to be water or confetti? But the basketball fans that are in love with their team and want to see basketball as a sport, in Boston they'll go 45 times a year, or however many home games they play, because it's always different,

and you don't know what's going to happen, and you want to see your guy win. It's not just about watching people put on a fucking performance of gymnastics or simulated violence, or how many times can you watch somebody go through a fucking table? Well, there's the thing, too. We just saw Punk versus McIntyre. If something like that happened in AEW,

it more than likely wouldn't be the only match on the show that was that violent. Exactly. This took months to get to this match. And I think with AEW, there's a lot of matches that are thrown together and there's never a road to get there that people invest in or care about. And you can't have any more feuds about friendship or hugging or you're my friend. I thought you were my friend, what happened. It's a continuing problem that doesn't get better and it's not going to.

And by the way, I'll throw this out there, throw this at you, and then we'll move on with the ratings. In terms of goodwill, at what point does it become good for Tony Kahn to announce that he's stepping down as head of creative? Boy, I'd love to hear that next week because our job would be a lot easier. At what point will something like that cause more people to check out the show? because he's training the audience to not care. And it's now affecting his most hardcore base. And they're starting to hemorrhage the key demo. See, here's the thing.

I think, I don't think that would really help at any point because for the people who are most dedicated to the company and are going to watch or whatever, I think they still like Tony. And I think they still think that, oh, yeah, he's a great booker. I'd do the exact same thing, which is the problem. All the fucking marks on the internet would do the exact same thing. But for the fans who either are like, this show sucks,

or we don't know what's going on, or we're not going to watch anymore, or we've lost our enthusiasm, if Tony Kahn said, well, I'm just going to, I'm going to quit and I'm going to let somebody else book, would it make any difference to them? Because do they really understand why the show, is not appealing to them anymore. Why they don't understand anything?

Do they think it's the wrestler's fault? Or it just, we don't like those wrestlers? Or do they, are they smart enough to the business to know, no, this is Tony Kahn telling these people to do this shit, or letting them do whatever the fuck they come up with for an idea without bothering to, you know, edit it or make sure it's any good? So would it really make any difference if Tony said, I'm getting somebody else? And then who would he get?

Well, that's a separate problem. Who would he get? Will Whitten? Jennifer Pepper Day? Who's he going to get? I don't think those would be good suggestions. Jim, let's talk about AEW Dynamite's ratings this past week on TBS Tuesday, October 8th, so Tuesday Night Dynamite, title Tuesday, 9 to 11.10 p.m., a preempted airing, it says here from WrestleManiaomics.

Well, and also that is somewhat like jumbo shrimp and government intelligence. If it's preempted, it didn't air at all. It's a, it's an airing outside the normal time slot. On average, watched by 329,000 viewers. They are down 52% from last week, which was... Jesus, which was 680,000 viewers. According to WrestleMania, this is the new low for the overall number and the key demo for any dynamite episode,

preempted or not. See, again, the way he uses preempted there, that means the blank screen got a higher range. Yeah, that's possible. So, Rampage 216, Collision, 269, and Dynamite 3. 29. If you add those up, you get 814,000. They were still 60,000 below the NXT program on Tuesday night.

On a second week on its news station. Because people knew that it was going to be there because of promotion. Well, let's go to these numbers here, and I don't know what the lead-in was. I'm not sure. Possibly footage of the evacuation. Everybody Leave your homes. Get to fuck out now. Even if you're in Idaho, just get to fuck out of your homes. Well, quarter one,

9 to 9.15 p.m. The John Moxley backstage speech, the Brian Danielson promo, that was shot on a camcorder. The Darby Allen Brody King Live Engel. Jake Roberts, negotiating with Lance Archer and Don Callis backstage.

And an ad break. 450,000 viewers. Okay, and at the same time, NXT was doing $8,000 for their quarter five, and that was a drop of 33,000 people. So we were asking, I want, we wonder if some of the NXT people went over to AEW, we may be about to find out. Quarter two, 915 and 930 p.m.

the Daniel Garcia Live promo, and the start of hologram versus Commander, with picture and picture, 292,000 viewers. Oh, wait a minute, I'm going to quote Percy Pringle. Oh, sweet, Jesus. 103,000 in the key demo. They lost, uh, wait, 150, 150,

158,000 people out of 450,000. They lost, they lost, 33% of their audience from quarter one to quarter two. How the fuck does that work? Well, we go to quarter three, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The end of hologram versus commander with the post match. So wait a minute. We forgot to compare.

Oh. Quarter two did 811,000 people for NXT. For NXT, as opposed to, well, the quarter six, which was opposite quarter two, The point is, at 9 o'clock, NXT had 858,000, and AEW had 450,000. And we asked the question, when NXT dropped to 811 in the next quarter, did 40-something thousand go over to AEW? And the answer is no. At AEW land, 158,000 people said fuck it and left. Well, we got a quarter three.

9.30, 9.45 p.m. The end of hologram versus commander, the post match with Jake Roberts and LFI. Hell if I know. The Mark Briscoe backstage promo. The Daniel Garcia Live promo. I guess the other thing wasn't the promo. That was just him arriving.

The E.J. E.J. Duka. Forgive me. I missed this. E.J. Nadeuca. Swerve Strickland. backstage angle? I don't remember that either. That's what it says here.

I don't know. Who is E.J. Nuca. N-D-U-K-A. I don't know. I missed that. I've seen his name in writing, but I've never seen him.

And then MVP and Shelton Benjamin's backstage angle and an ad break. 296,000 viewers. Okay, and that's opposite 784,000 for NXT. and NXT had lost also. That was sexy red. That was sexy red.

Yeah, that was the lowest rated quarter of NXT because of red and her lack of sexiness. But they still didn't show up over at AEW. They just went somewhere else. Well, we go to quarter 4, 945 to 10 p.m. The Mercedes Monet Camille backstage promo. Daniel Garcia being congratulated by wrestlers backstage for deciding to sign a contract and the start of Soraya versus Nila Rose versus Willow Nightinger versus Jamie Hader

286,000 viewers Ooh and that's that is that was opposite 838,000 for Randy Orton and and the fellow who couldn't hit the RKO well we now go to quarter five

now they're unopposed They're unopposed. The big 10 o'clock hour. Do you know where your children are? They're wrestling on AEW. The continuation of the four-way women's match. The post-match with Mariah May. The Learning Tree's confrontation with Rocky Romero.

Jay White versus Cody Chun. Hook and Kip Sabian and the Patriarchy's backstage angle. And an ad break. 334,000 viewers. Well, so, they picked that 14, 40, 48,000 people at the top of the 10 o'clock hour. Maybe some of the NXT folks did come over to see some more... It has to be. Rassling to see how the other half lived.

Quarter six, 1015 to 10.30 p.m. The Willow Nightingale Mariah Mae backstage angle. Mercedes Monet versus Emmy Sakuro, a picture of picture and the post match with Camille and Chris Statlander, 323,000 viewers. And some more said, well, that's enough of that. 11,000 to be exact. So they're struggling. Where are they going for the big finish?

We now go to quarter 7, 1030 to 10.45 p.m. The private party confrontation with Stokely Halfaway. The Will Osprey Don Callis Family Angle. the Action And Dredi confrontation with Top Flight and Layla Gray. Was that who that... I forgot who the fuck that was. I knew Top Flight didn't recognize the girl, but I'd forgotten what Action Andretti looked like. Layla Gray, how could you ever forget what she looks like? Fine.

Because I don't care. Well, we go now to quarter eight. I remind you there's an overrun. 10.45 to 11 p.m. An ad break. The Jack Perry promo. the start of Brian Danielson and Wheeler Uta versus Claudio and Pack with picture and picture

296,000 viewers 10-minute overrun 11 to 11 10 p.m. Continuation of the match post-match with Moxley and Marina Shafir 328,000 viewers. The lowest dynamite in history.

And I'm surprised, honestly, that the overrun picked up because what do they normally have at 11 o'clock on a Tuesday night. Movies for guys who like movies. Well, that used to do big. Yeah. So they started at 450,000.

At the end of regulation, they were at 296,000. That means they had lost 154,000 or just over one-third of the audience they started with, and then they made a slight comeback to 328,000 in the overrun. who um now again no this isn't the only time they had gone against nxte or that they had to move to a tuesday night it's never been this result though a couple of years ago they were making a big deal we won the wednesday night war because they were doing like what was it a hundred thousand people more than nxte and then the the network moved nxte and they oh we declare victory Well, the worm has turned, and the shoe is on the other...

I don't know if they've even got shoes on their feet now. You know, the victory lap, everyone in that company who does the public rah-rah for them was taking because of the media rights deal. It's like the Youngbuck's victory lap after Punk was fired. You know, you're doing it in empty buildings. No one's paying to go to see these shows. less and less people are watching these shows.

And it's all Tony, who's only getting busier. Who's only getting busier. Oh, and that's Uncle Dave also mentioned the 19-hour days that Tony is putting in not only with the wrestling, but also with the football and the analytics and the statistics and whatever else he's doing. And as you said, it's only going to get worse. and you know everybody's talking about well they're going to be profitable and they're getting guaranteed

money from a television network on the theory that they will bring eyeballs and it's kind of a fucking embarrassing situation that the very week that they announced this thing they do the lowest ratings in the history of their shows and I'm saying you know whether they're profitable or we do not doubt and we fully admit they are taking in a shit ton of money. And they already had a shit ton of money. But the problem is, as we've established, they're also spending a shit ton of money. And whether you are profitable or not,

if nobody wants to look at the stuff you're doing and nobody's watching it, then at some point they just canceled Smackdown on Fox and it was drawn 2 million people well it's not worth it to us what we're paying are these numbers or anything like them

worth what they're being paid and is WBD in three years going to go what the fuck were we thinking I that's they're doing this to themselves It's not like there's a goddamn pandemic and they can't have crowds in the buildings or there's some horrible fucking financial crisis and nobody can afford to go and do anything. That won't happen again unless Trump gets elected. It's not exterior forces that are at work to hold AW down.

It's the shit they've done to themselves because Tony has viewed this thing from the start as his plaything. instead of a goddamn way to make money. And because of his billionaire father and the fact that they've already owned pro football teams and all the other things that they own or have invested in, minus the Black News Channel, it didn't work out, they know the people that will give them more money. But at some point, you've got to do something

to justify the money that people are paying you to do something. And again, that company has a lot of trouble right now and a lot of debt. If the AEW numbers, they're not going to be 300,000 every week right now for Dynamite, but if they continue to go down, if the key demo number continues to go down, if AEW, as it has, continues to go down in every single metric, it's going to look really bad. And then it'll be a story. Look at what they spent their money on when they're having all these problems.

And for all these wise-assies, they're haters, they love the WWE, so they want A-W to go out of business. I don't love the WW either. Honestly, it actually, my opinion is all this fucking wrestling sucks. There is occasionally a goddamn bright spot like Punk and McIntyre in a hell of a cell. Or what FTR used to do as tag team. But otherwise, I think all this shit sucks. I'm not pulling for anybody. I'm pulling for somebody to pull their head out of their ass

do this shit right. Which is why I'm especially offended at these knuckleheads over here blowing their opportunities. Nobody's ever been willing to spend a quarter of a billion dollars just to start a fucking wrestling company that will perform at 20 or 30% of the goddamn industry leader.

Nobody has ever been willing to do that because nobody's ever been goddamn insane before. But now that they've done it, I'd like for it to have worked. Well, there's still time. Tony may turn into a booking genius. You never know. Maybe it'll just hit him.

It'll just strike them one night. Eddie Graham will rise from the grave before Tony figures out what he's doing. Hey, with the flooding in Tampa, maybe the grave will come up. You never know. Oh, you know a good point there. All right, well, let's end on that really,

good point or bad point depending on what kind of taste you have. Well, you've got a point there, but if you comb your hair right, nobody'll notice it. Jim, let's get a song or two before I go to the Colimba. Play that funky music, white boy. This was sent to cornyidthru at gmail.com. He has submitted songs in the past. Aaron D. Donato, aka Captain Corum, and I believe we called him Captain Scrotum. And yeah, he referenced it here from Wilmington, Delaware. Yes. Let's go to this. He said you requested an omnibus theme song, and here it is. There's a lot of ball sacks up in Delaware.

To this omnibus, an extra long best of their podcast right here on this omnibus. So join your fellow called members riding on the bus. And hear what you missed or what you remember. On this omnibus, you'll know you've been hit when you get hit by an omnibus. That happens, call Stephen P. New. Now here's the omnibus. Your host should be talking by now, riding on the bus. So the time this theme's done, it's all faded out.

Now here's the omnibus. All right. I felt like I was at Newport. I was about to say very fulky. Maybe get the Carter family to come in here with a mandolin. in. A very good, very good Captain Scrotum. I would play my sound effect, but I don't think you could hear it. Well, that's very good song. Because I'm on the filter again. Well, there we go. You are on the filter, just like some of these songs should probably be. But let's get at least one more, Jim. This was

by the way, we're smart to some of you cheaters out there that are doing the AI thing. We're not, Everybody can sound like goddamn Elton John if they got the AI behind them. We want the real stuff. The organic stuff, the stuff that smells like manure. All right, well, let's go to this next one. I don't know what the smell will be.

This was sent by Sean. And it is a song called Driving to the Castle. Let's go to this. Let me stop it right there. It has to be AI. That's got to be AI. It's got to be a guy. It's got to hire a fucking band.

I backed up my car. Leave your feet to cast a corn that dreams just in my reach They'll piss my own a mission To meet my hero, Jim I thought we'd share some stories And maybe even the burger with extra cheese A little drenched out before me A wander in the air

Jim will be so happy me Let me stop it nothing is rhymed yet, has it? No, but his twang does. What do you think of the idea this is not a real person singing this? Well, it sounds better than the real people. So can AI give blowjobs?

I don't. Then there'd be no reason for women, would there? See, I just did that so everybody will think I'm sexy. So there's an AI machine that would be giving you this blowjob? well, I don't know, AI or BJ or some type of machine. All right, should we play more? Should we call it for the AI song from Sean? It's up to you.

It's your show. All right, we're going to call it because it's AI. Once we discover your AI, you never know what to happen. Yeah. And there goes that one. Well, it's like, it's like popping these people for being on steroids. Once we find out you're cheating, your records have to be expunged. All right, here's one.

I don't think we play. this. If we did, I apologize, but he has sent songs in the past. I am the Pelican in London, UK. Everything is sung, spoke, played, and produced by me. Hope you like it. Let's go to this.

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I got a, can you hear me clapping? No, thank God. Holy, well, we're going to try to work on this noise filter. I'd make all kinds of noises and applause as if that was not the case. But that was great. Excellent job. You can't replace the human being. Now, see if you could just get human beings to give as good a blowjob as he just made a human being record.

You wouldn't need AI blowjob machines. I don't know what you just. said, but you just said... I'm not sure either. I don't think we're going to top that. So with that, the drive-thru is closed. Right. No AI involved in the music coming out of Last Matter. It just says. Well, we can certainly tell

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