Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 369

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite! Plus Jim answers YOUR questions about the greatest faction ever, the marine that beat up Shawn Michaels, Jey Uso selling the most merch, TNA's he...xagon ring, if MSG was in Kansas City, ratings, and much, much more!  Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Hello again, friends. You wanted a theme song, there you go. And you are our friends, and welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's Drive-Thru. I felt that one in my back. Oh, don't strain yourself there. We're going to have fun today. It's a fun edition of the Drive-Thru. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I'm in a world of pain. And here he is, the man who enjoys that pain, the star of our show, Mr. Jim-Corps. it. I can feel your pain. See, already you have, in the intro, you have beat me to the malingering punch because you are already, Brian last, both of us are in some way hampered here with a medical condition. I haven't even got a chance to jump into mine yet before there you go with yours. You have thrown out your back foolishly because you obviously weren't finished with it when you threw it out and you're in pain
Starting point is 00:01:06 and when you hit the high notes when you overture curtain lights you're hurting yourself you're feeling the pain but you're still here but you're already trying to get the jump on me for giving an excuse for a substandard performance and I resent that highly I resemble that remark
Starting point is 00:01:28 you're welcome well thank you Why am I thinking you? It's my show. Oh, that's a loophole, isn't it? You see how that works? But it's freezing cold. I am freezing.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I'm cold. I'm cold down to the bone bird, chills and shivers. Because winter has suddenly fallen upon us down here, and I am a little snorfully. I'm a little croopy or little flimmy or whatever. I think I'm going to be all right. I don't think I'm going into full-fledged, you know, resuscitation mode or anything where I'll need to be intubated. But it's miserable whether that you remember we went from, see, I'm going to switch this over to my malingering and try to get some sympathy anyway, after the people already know that you're ready to be taped to a backboard and sent into orthopedic surgery. But I, you know what I, do you have someone?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Actually, there's somebody I would recommend. but you'd have to come down here and then we'd have to there's a warehouse over in Sellersburg warehouse yeah a guy does it you know but evenings but you can't turn your headlights on when you pull in the parking lot but he'll fix you right up but anyway back to me and my health because I'm going to turn in a substandard performance here and I want an excuse you see there
Starting point is 00:02:55 that was your excuse I didn't excuse. See, I'm obviously sick. Obviously, I'm at desk door and ringing the bell. Someone's knocking on the door, somebody's ringing the bell. So not only did we, we had a blizzard here yesterday. We had a blizzard because it was cold and gloomy all day and the wind was blowing and the wind chill never got out of the 20s, I don't believe. And then it right as the sun set and it was dark out down, it starts. a snow flaking and the wind blowing and the snow and the
Starting point is 00:03:34 the the mulch beds under the trees were covered up in white like big white donuts you could see them a mile away and it was just it was cold brutally cold and and and and that has led to my my bones aching and actually hotchka's feather bottom in addition to having pneumonia last week now he's thrown his back out and stacey has a perpetual bad back. So of the three human beings that I've communicated with today, I'm the oldest one
Starting point is 00:04:10 and I'm the only one that can carry anything. How the fuck did this work? Shouldn't I be in some kind of motorized cart by now with people fetching and carrying for me? But I digress. I'm trying to be a hillbilly jackpar. I'm going to tell a boring-ass story,
Starting point is 00:04:25 but I'm going to make it entertaining. So this has been coming on since I'm going to tell you something that I did the other day, Brian, that you do not even know happened. Oh. And this is what has brought on my overall, my cold and my chills, and it got the aches and my bursitis is flaring up and things like that that the old people get.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Because I remember, we lived in an arid desert here for 30 days. It was the driest month in the history of the city of Louisville. And then suddenly, Halloween. Trigger Treat, it started raining, and it's been rained inches at a time, I'm not for days at a time since then over and over. And we're like one of the wettest months now that we've ever had here. And I must digress to tell you that the people I think know that even though that the feather bottoms have taken over a lot of the work at Cornett's collectibles.
Starting point is 00:05:24 They've taken over, that's for sure. Well, they've taken over a lot of the work off of my old, dreary bones here. I've still got boxes and boxes of action figures in my garage because I'm in the process of autographing all of them and we'll talk good news about us filling all the orders later on. And so I've got to, I park Black Beauty out in the driveway most of the time because I got all these boxes of action figures, right? Well, usually when it's going to rain and I have to
Starting point is 00:06:00 go out in the morning if it's going to rain or whatever, I will move shit around and I'll put the truck in the garage. But a couple days ago, I knew it was going to rain overnight, but it was not going to rain when I was going to go out. So I didn't figure I needed to put the truck in the garage.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I left it parked down the driveway. You follow me so far? I hear what you're saying. I'm not really following, but yeah. Well, there's a point to this. So what I didn't really really, realize also, and I must digress again, too, I remind the listeners. You've digressed three times in the same digression.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Well, yes, because they've got to understand this story of why this has happened. The listeners may know if they've been around for a while that Black Beauty is a 2007 Ford Expedition. It's got 302,000 miles on it. And there's no reason for me to get a new vehicle because I only drive 25 miles a week. and Stacy's got a brand new car it's got all this computerized bells and whistles and shit and cameras I wouldn't try to drive it for a million dollars but she's happy with that
Starting point is 00:07:09 and I got my old comfortable expedition right now a couple years ago the door handle on the inside of the driver's door broke off well it's not like it's a major goddamn inconvenience So when I go somewhere, when I get there, I roll the window down, I opened the door from the handle on the outside, and I rolled the window back up, right? And then go on about my day, free to pursue a life of religious freedom.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And that's, you know, it hasn't been a problem up until now. But the other day, when I went out, and I said, I don't need to put it in the garage because it's going to rain overnight, but it's not going to rain. Well, it wasn't raining when I was going out. but the last time that I had parked it there when I'd rolled the window down I'd forgotten to roll the window back up
Starting point is 00:08:02 after I opened the door. So this torrential fucking overnight rain had rained into the goddamn window that was all the way open of the door of the driver's side of the fucking vehicle. That created an inconvenience
Starting point is 00:08:22 because it was a cold morning and I had to sit out there with towels trying to dry all the inside of the shit that I was going to sit in and then I sit down in the seat and go squish because it's all fucking so and I was afraid to try to turn the seat heater on
Starting point is 00:08:45 because it was a wet I was afraid I was going to electric chair myself and fry myself right behind the wheel so I had to go all the way over to do what I was doing and come back in a wet, cold, squishy seat, which I believe now has led me possibly on the road to pneumonia. But do you care, no, you jump right in front of me
Starting point is 00:09:08 with a painful back ailment. Are you finished? I can't tell. Well, I just made that comment. You indeed made that comment. I didn't jump in front of anyone. I ain't doing any jumping for a while. well Professor X get you a chair and
Starting point is 00:09:30 them emanate your brainwaves out to people but anyway speaking of action figures in my garage you want me to get that out of the way I can do that right now if if you're going to be that way and dominate the whole program and try to get all the sympathy this is the period of time now officially where from now until
Starting point is 00:09:56 December the 3rd, the Midnight Express Collectors Edition action figure four-pack set with a collectible book, autographed 8 by 10 and Certificate of Authenticity, is on sale for $40 off, which is the best deal you're ever going to get on that bad boy. And Hotchkiss Featherbottom has done a wonderful job fighting through his pain with these sales, inventions of his and everybody as a matter of fact we are now within two weeks of turn around of signing all this stuff and we have fought and scratched and clawed Claude Patterson to where if you ordered anything through November 13th it has been handed to the feather bottoms and they were processing it on the day before Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:10:49 or thereabouts because I don't know when people will hear this but nevertheless $40 off the midnight four-pack. And if you buy any of the tag team sets, you get the new and final Jim Cornett variant for half price as a holiday gift to all the people at Jimcornett.com, as well as the regular cast of all kinds of wonderful t-shirts and merchandise that you can peruse at your convenience at the aforementioned Jimcornette.com.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And all this through possible pneumonia here from a squishy seat and blizzard-like conditions. I was, it was like I was stuck in the Arctic on an exploration expedition. I could have, we could have been cut off from the world here with that blizzard last night, Brian, and you don't care.
Starting point is 00:11:43 How much snow did you get? Well, it dusted the mulch beds. Blizzard, has anyone else called it a blizzard? Well, the wind was blowing really hard. And the snowflakes was going all, it looked like a snow globe. It was just chaos. I was a fear for my life.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Is a snow globe depicting a blizzard or just a heavy wind that occasionally comes up when you shake it? Well, and blows the snow everywhere. Well, it depends on how many times you have to shake it is when you're blowing it. But I'll tell you this, if you're no meteorologist. I'm certainly not one of those. So who are you to dispute my description of the snowstorm I was in, the blinding, condition the white out that we suffered here. We had to hook Harley up to a sled just to make sure we could escape if it came to it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 When did this happen? Last night. Last night. Uh-huh. As we are recording, it is snowing here at Last Manor. Oh, now you got to, another one of my stories you got to jump in on. I'm not jumping in. I'm jumping behind technically on this one. Because you already told your story.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Well, how much snow are you get? story. How many, how much, how many inches have you got up there, Brian? Just a trace, just a drizzle of snow. It's sticking, but not much. We're back to measure in snow now. I'm sorry, I wasn't sure which question you were answered. Well, I guess the point is, you had a snowstorm, and obviously, uh, it affected you deeply. Yes. It's snowing here now. My back is out. Yes. Yet all, all you're saying we're done with the show? But what I'm saying is all of these awful things happened after
Starting point is 00:13:26 one of the most sorry excuses for a wrestling show slash a go home to a pay-per-view show I have ever seen and I've said it
Starting point is 00:13:38 the last several weeks and boy, this is without Jimmy Jacobs on the writing team look at what everything's become by the way but it's becoming more and more fascinating
Starting point is 00:13:48 by the week to watch this show because you're watching a show fall apart not a talent you're watching an entire show fall apart
Starting point is 00:14:00 in front of you know you know I don't think people really give Orange Cassidy enough credit for the influence he has had because he influenced the entire fan base to have this apathetic who gives a fuck reaction everything happening on the show
Starting point is 00:14:18 another dead crowd but let's I hate to jump ahead of anything but why do we start things off getting a good mood by talking about another astounding episode of AEW Dynamite. Well, it was a go-home show because the people
Starting point is 00:14:33 sitting in the arena were just thinking how long till I could go home and the people actually did you hear that all the Nielsen families that were tuned into the fucking show, they moved. They listed their fucking house. You know, we're done here too.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So they didn't want to make that mistake again. But I've got to start with, before we even talk about what was the content of the program, let's talk about the opening of the program, because let's talk about some double standards, shall we here, ladies and gentlemen, I saw some rumblings on the Twitter that, and some of the news sites retweeting that Tony Conner, AEW, however they phrased it, the entity
Starting point is 00:15:28 All Elite Wrestling, had done a, or got the rights to November rain by guns and roses, and we're doing the video, and of course, everybody finally remembers, this is the story they're telling the November rain video at ECW from, and Brian, again, you're the savant on 90s dates. was that 1994? When Paul Heyman used the video? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:54 He used it a few years in a row. He may have started in 94. He was definitely using it in 95. Obviously, the song came out. It was unusual illusion. What was that, 91, 92? 91, 92. But Paul used it several years because of his November, big event that he would have
Starting point is 00:16:12 had November to remember whatever the case. Paul Heyman, at times without paying any royalties or publishing fees or anything else seemingly. Yes, nothing. But Paul, Paul Heyman, for that era, used that era's music perfectly for his wrestling.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yes. And obviously that was a big influence on Tony Con. Well, and that's the thing because that's why people fondly remember that because of the ECW show. That's the thing. Paul was, you know, editing on VHS sometimes
Starting point is 00:16:47 and whatever the fuck, but he could put shit together in post. That was what he was the ultimate master at. And those moments and those feelings in November rain and he had highlights of all of his top programs, blah, blah, blah. And so they've done they've got the rights. But did this
Starting point is 00:17:11 strike you as the epic, the drama of the November rain ECW video? even as I remember them, it's not like I've watched them over and over the past 30 years, or was this just a lot of people taking bumps short on explanation of why any of those people want to fight and a little bit of November rain. You tell me, you're more of an expert of that era's programming that I am,
Starting point is 00:17:43 but first of all, did this live up to those as a tribute video and then I'll raise my other point. No, this was really poorly done. And, you know, there's two different ways to do it. With ECW very often, Paul would actually interspice the actual video in. So it wasn't just the song. You would actually get, you know, a few seconds of Mikey Whiprek,
Starting point is 00:18:05 and then, hey, there's Beck. You know, it was... Yeah. That was the kind of thing that happened sometimes on ECW. So, you know, Salt and Peppa were on ECW a bunch of 94. I bet they don't know about that. Ha ha ha ha. They were on a whole bunch.
Starting point is 00:18:21 But I think it was all over the place. You couldn't, if you didn't already know exactly what was going on, and we don't even know that, you couldn't follow because it was just, here's a few seconds of this feud. Now here's some of this stuff. And now here's this stuff. And as it's happening, I don't think they realize the effect is you're seeing one by one the card play out and you're like, ooh, oh, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's getting worse and worse, what you realize is coming your way. And it didn't hit as a video. I think a big miss. That's a good phrase that you just emitted there in your pain and agony. It didn't hit as a video. Paul shit hit as a video. This was like a complaisal of shit with some of the music behind it and not in a particular prominent way. But the question is, is Tony Kahn stuck in the past?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Brian. That was 30 years ago, and it would be the equivalent of if in Smoky Mountain wrestling in 1994, if I had done a video to I want to hold your hand. Your thoughts? I mean, I remember you going as far back as Jessica with the Allman Brothers, but it worked. It's an Southern Rock and was, yeah, I mean, it worked. It worked. The song could work. But again, the video, it just felt slapdash. It didn't... I know I'm being facetious that, you know, I know it's somewhat of a timeless classic,
Starting point is 00:20:03 but at the same point, this is a national television show in 2024, and he's spending the money with the state of things going on right now. He's got a windfall coming with, the TV rights fees, but he's spending the money to license, which
Starting point is 00:20:27 Paul never did, bear in mind. License November rain to do a tribute video to a niche promotion that had small television distribution 30 years ago because it's remembered fondly by fans of that era
Starting point is 00:20:43 and then presenting this goddamn television program full of manure in front of a crowd Yes, it was Redding, Pennsylvania. And I don't know if Redding's ready for anything. But these people were anesthetized. They were chloroform.
Starting point is 00:21:01 They were handing out Propofal fucking lollipops when these people came in the door. So that's what I'm saying. Tony Kahn's on the cutting edge of modern wrestling by spending a lot of money to do a bad tribute to a 30-year-old fucking concept remembered by a small niche group of people while putting nobody in a fucking building and reading
Starting point is 00:21:27 and presenting a shit television show. You know, the other thing is, too, I saw what the crowd was, and according to Russell Ticks, tickets distributed were 2,858. You would have thought it was a lot less because, again, a silent crowd is one thing, but when it's a large,
Starting point is 00:21:45 mass of people that are silent, all at once, I mean, that's awkward. It's awkward just to get up from your seat to go to the bathroom at that point. Well, yeah, you can definitely see people are, you know, wandering around. But again, and again, tickets distributed.
Starting point is 00:22:08 How many of them bothered to come and turn them in? We don't know. But it's just, they're just. And it's because this show, you mentioned, it's falling apart. It's not falling apart. it's falling into pieces, because you can tell... Don't say that hell license Patsy Cline next week.
Starting point is 00:22:29 All to pieces! Holy shit! See, you didn't know I could hit that note, didn't you? Oh, you hit no note whatsoever there. I was right up over the top of it. It's like a capy and yanked by the tail. The fuck was that? What I'm saying to you is that the people...
Starting point is 00:22:53 There are a lot to people. There are a lot of individuals in AEW, either behind the camera or in front of the camera, that think variously that they are artists, that they are autos, some of them are movie directors, some of them are producers, only one of them is a high financier, some of them are actors, some of them want to be dramatic, some of them comedic, I think some of them want to be on reality television and everybody is getting
Starting point is 00:23:26 in between Tony's booking of multiple people in matches that nobody can keep track of you have a variety of people creating whatever the fuck kind of show business it is that they think they're going to get into next and here we had Daniel Garcia and
Starting point is 00:23:47 Jungle Jacks trying to take after his father, you know, in the Hollywood realm of the Reservoir Dogs tribute that they did. But then you've got Maria May and Mitsou, you know, out there going for the big breast fetish video crowd that they will make millions in. And then you've got Moxley thinks he's a goddamn some kind of Beyond Thunderdome, motherfucker, roaming the planes at a pickup truck with a crew of misfits. And if they really were allowed to carry machine guns, that would complete his thoughts. And maybe have a rocket launcher on the back of the pickup truck.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And they're all auditioning for this. And Osprey and his friends want to be video game characters, even down to dressing like them. So it's all apart into pieces depending on what you're, see it at any given time. And MVP's in there trying to navigate the Hurt Syndicate into being wrestling stars in the middle of a bunch
Starting point is 00:25:02 of people who want to be on every other kind of television show that's on the air, but a wrestling show or not even on the air. They'd rather be on TikTok or dick flip or whatever the fuck they're on these days, these young folks.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And they're probably taking the marijuana pills too, ain't they? Who's they? All of them. Who are they? The youngsters, the kids on the AED program. They've got to be on some drugs to be doing this, don't they?
Starting point is 00:25:38 I don't want to make any assumptions. Well, somebody needs to be on some kind of, that I don't know what, what do they, when you have a tension deficit disorder, I guess that means you can't pay attention, right? because you have a deficit of that. I believe so, yeah. Okay, that is there anything that they can give these fucking people
Starting point is 00:26:00 to pay attention to what they're doing from one week to the next just so that it's just, it's not gibberish? That's what I'm asking. Let's get to, I'm dying to talk about this show. I'm dying to hear what you have to say about several segments. As I'm watching them, I'm getting at a point now where I'm saying, you know, it goes from, I can't wait to hear Jim talk about this to, what is Jim going to say about this?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Well, it's just the opening match is an all-star eight-man tag match. And by the way, in full disclosure, that was a concept that Delirious had, Hunter Johnston, in Ring of Honor in 2000, what would have been, 2010 or 11 thereabouts, where the singles champions and the tag team champions took on, there, as I remember it, if this is correct, they're number one challengers or the people that they were having programs with and an eight-man tag for a television match on HDNet, unfortunately. That's why nobody remembers it.
Starting point is 00:27:08 But that okay to build to something like that and do interviews where, yes, it's a historic match, we're going to have the champions team up against these top challenges an eight-man tag match and holy shit. They just decided, okay, here it comes. Lance Archer, Brian Cage, Kyle Feltcher, and take a shit against Rickashay, Osprey, Hobbs, poor Hobbs, and Mark Davis.
Starting point is 00:27:42 How is it an all-star? Mark Davis has not wrestled anywhere for a year, apparently, and still I'm trying to figure out what injury that he got over in 14 months besides having both of his legs replaced. What the fuck did he do to himself? But he's had two matches if that in AEW so far
Starting point is 00:28:10 and he's in an all-star, it's just multiple people out there to satisfy Tony's fetish for writing a bunch of names down and thinking, oh, wow. and instead he's nullifying everybody and you write ricochet who was not only I'm sure very highly priced
Starting point is 00:28:30 but was a big deal when he came in until a think we've seen it and nothing's revolutionary and B he has the personality of cabbage and he argues with fans on Twitter not even snappy comebacks and then a block but a back and forth. Like, well, no, you don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:55 No, the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. That's why he has 12 followers, you fucking moron. And every time you can tell ricochet is like, hurt. Well, yeah, because look at all this shit he's doing. But the point is, again, comes in as one of the major single stars in the company and now he's in an all-star eight man with Mark Davis, his partner who looks like a 50-year-old UPS driver and has had two matches in his company
Starting point is 00:29:23 and they expect that people to remember this goddamn, this bond, Brian, the brotherhood that he and Kyle Feltcher had in another company and another country several years ago. But it still burns in both men's groinel area. I don't know. but no Davis looks like piss on a plate and nobody gives a shit
Starting point is 00:29:50 and then Brian Cage just give up Jesus Christ in five years he's just there he doesn't go way long enough to miss him but he's not back long enough to make him well he's now a champion now he's the what did they say ring of honor TV champion I believe no and and he grew his hair out so it's a new look oh and blow me again
Starting point is 00:30:13 and then Lance Archer again the time is if he went away long enough that they would forget he's out there with Jake he's not with Jake he beats up random production people and throws him down the ramp he's on and off the television show he's beaten in minutes and then sometimes he beats a shit out of the guy
Starting point is 00:30:37 that's about to go for the world title it just give it a fuck of rest and somebody focus on this guy in a year or whatever, maybe we can forget the bad relationship. And speaking of the phrase lost in the shuffle,
Starting point is 00:30:53 which I was about to, Hobbs on one side take a shit on the other side. They could have paid our boy take the money that they've paid O'Cody and Eiji
Starting point is 00:31:11 and for it not to mention what was his name of it of oh, Abushi. I know what you're talking about, Abushi, yeah. Ibushi, they signed him to fucking have both of his feet amputated. Well, they never seen him again until he's paying him so he can fucking sit sit there at home with no feet. He wasn't, he didn't have his feet amputated.
Starting point is 00:31:36 We heard that he, well, we saw video. He broke both of his ankles. Yes, well. I hate to laugh at him. The way it looked, might as well of taking him off, and putting him back on. He broke both of his ankles,
Starting point is 00:31:46 and then we heard, recently, like we heard maybe four months ago or so that he was making a comeback, but I don't know where it is. Okay, the point is, him, Iji, O'Code, and three other Japanese people
Starting point is 00:31:59 that I can't even remember what their fucking names are. They could have taken all that money and paid it to take a shit and put him on TV every week and got him over and he'd been worth more. But now he's in the All-Star 8-man tag. And not to mention,
Starting point is 00:32:11 Hobbs, Hobbs, who they had, they had him off for so long. He was legitimately hurt. They couldn't control it. They bring him back. What is the difference right now, Brian, between Powerhouse Hobbs and Bronson Reed? Well, the difference is the push? Eggs, and the difference is one's a star and one's in the all-star eight-man tag. Bronson Reed is a mom.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Hobbs has more potential to be quite honest with you because and I don't want to you know knock on wood I'm not trying to curse anybody but as heavy as Reed is and the stuff he's doing is he needs a high paying job early in his life like right now because his joints are not going to do well and I'm still not convinced that he's ever going to be a fireball promo but fucking Hobbs I think could be both for longer, et cetera, he's got a ton of potential, but he's stuck in this fucking quagmire. And they've made Bronson Reed a star doing simple things impressively
Starting point is 00:33:25 because he's a big man and he can. And here's Hobbs can do even more things. And he's not doing anything. And Jesus Christ, I'm sorry. Feltcher needs to be a cocky, young heel at a territory for about a year and he might be ready for this spot but right
Starting point is 00:33:48 now it's god damn should he have cut his hair not really no because at least the the fucking the douchebaggy type of blonde haircut that he had before at least could get him
Starting point is 00:34:04 some douche baggy heat because that's you know but now he's just as I say he looks like a fucking skin head from whales or something. He's Australian, by the way. Well, New South Wales. Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzie!
Starting point is 00:34:24 Remember? New South Wales. There you go. But I mean, so now he's going to, now he had something that made him stand out, and he's going to, eh. But they dress him like a video game. What the fuck is he? Is he, is he, is he?
Starting point is 00:34:40 So. They dress him like a video game. everybody he had another one of the fucking things on like they dress in the badass video game when he came out did he not yeah i don't even i didn't even notice to be honest mm-hmm yeah maybe you're right well you didn't have time to notice because the fucking the baby faces jumped out of the ring and ran to the entrance way and met the heels in the entrance entrance way then had a big eight way all over the arena and just again chaos everywhere
Starting point is 00:35:14 without anything looking particularly great and then take a shit and Davis get in the ring and grab a headlock and the referee rings a bell and again it's just it's a quagmire of talent with no good direction for all this shit besides his meaningless little inside
Starting point is 00:35:36 angles that Tony finds in his mind and what's going on in Ring of Honor and they did a deal with, Hobbs, they hurt Hobbs's leg. Again, they do things they've seen in old angles without any idea of the context or the application or what you're doing to bury it or not. They thought it'd be cool if they hurt Hobbs' leg that he was out with an injury,
Starting point is 00:36:03 he's still wearing a brace, so he has to be taken out of the match so he can limp back in and get a hot tag and then he didn't win the fucking match so he limped they took him out and he limped back and tagged in and made a good comeback on all the heels while selling his leg he had some fucking fire to him he looks like a million dollars
Starting point is 00:36:33 goddamn sell his contract to me I'll make some goddamn money with him anyway he does all this shit and he turns around and tags Davis in and the people were like and it went to shit
Starting point is 00:36:50 and there's another lost opportunity if you were going to get something out of this he could have come in and been a bit of badass right out of a bit he should have booked to match to begin with but if you're going to he could have done that
Starting point is 00:37:05 but then everybody had and watched Davis do the same kind of Japanese shit would take a shit
Starting point is 00:37:16 and then Davis and Felcher had to fight if you can call it that and then everybody came in at random and Osprey
Starting point is 00:37:26 and Felcher could do some video game bullshit and then Ospre to make it even worse Osprey
Starting point is 00:37:33 the probably still most over baby face on the team he fucks up when the heel moves and knocks out fucking Davis
Starting point is 00:37:43 and then so Kyle can stop Osprey and Tate can needle if Davis and just beat him in a flat one two three and so you know yes it's nice that
Starting point is 00:38:00 take got a win and it's nice that Davis did a job before it didn't really do anything for take, it might have for Hobbs. If you wanted the heels to go over for fuck's sake, I don't know, why put hop, help me.
Starting point is 00:38:26 There's no help. I mean, you say that the wrestlers need direction, they do. The problem is the person at the top needs direction. That's the problem. This show, the formatting, the booking, the results of the match once they happen. It's all a train wreck. And again, it leads to the crowd taking on the personality of Orange Cassidy.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And just sitting there, nothing phases them, they don't care. I mean, it was an eight-man met. Did anyone care about this after the fact? No. And it's 23 minutes into the show before it was over with. And you had to... Especially considering how they jammed so much all over the to play shit at the end of the show. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I guess if they had, I guess if this was any place other than the start, though, would have hemorrhaged viewers. Well, but I mean, that's the thing is that it, no, there is no complete show. There are segments within the show. One, again, is the reservoir dog's homage.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Another is a lighthearted comedy segment. Another one is where they all act like they're in a video game. And, you know, so the hole is not cohesive. Meanwhile, back to the hole that they're digging. So right after we get out of that thing, we go to Moxley and in the back of his plumbing truck,
Starting point is 00:40:00 is that what this was? It was at a moving van, just an empty trailer, that he and his guys are in, and there again, are these stolen movie lines, are these lines he has written for the movie he's making in his head? Does it help when he growls and snarls? And does it matter because he's talking about a joke? He's talking about the company mascot.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Our little puppy pockets, Orange Cassidy himself. They're really seriously involving their world champion, as rotten as he may be with the company mascot because Tony Khan thinks he's cute and dressed up as him for Halloween and five years in it's not, it wasn't funny to begin with
Starting point is 00:40:50 and it's long past stale and they're doing an audition for some kind of underground film while at the same time their excuse for it is to talk about the main event of the pay-per-view where they think this fucking idiot is going to draw with this fucking guy. Am I being too non-specific there or well either side, pick it.
Starting point is 00:41:16 One side is this idiot and the other side is this fucking guy. What do they expand? And then when Moxley's like, I will destroy you. And meanwhile, this guy's been the phoniest thing on the fucking roster for the past five years. So his opponent has done everything possible that he could by word and deed to show that this is all a bunch of fake bullshit that they're doing
Starting point is 00:41:47 and Moxley thinks he's going to work up sympathy from the smartest fan base probably in terms of whether they know it's a work or not and how worked it is. The smartest fan base in the fucking business to work up sympathy for this fucking fake fucking clown. This is their psychology
Starting point is 00:42:09 for a pay-per-view main event. Help me out here. Just throw me a rope. I'm a real clown. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I mean, you know, again, this goes back to the idea that John Moxley is handling his own creative. This is something he's very passionate about. Apparently, according to that interview, we played a couple
Starting point is 00:42:30 weeks ago, in real life, ending gimmick, he can't explain it. but Tony is ride or die right now with John Moxley and you know I feel like we've said this about a bunch of... You know, die is an option in that. It is. And you know, we've said this about a lot of stuff on this show. But they're getting... I mean, death riders is the proper name for his group
Starting point is 00:42:52 because they're riding the show to death. Straight to death. Oh. And again, I brought it up before. The downward spiral since they aired the puncher, Jack Perry video. And then all of a sudden after that, the renewed push for Jack Perry. The Young Buck's big heel thing where they, along with Jack Perry and Okada, turn heel on Tony Khan. MJF's return is a baby face. MJF's return is a heel. Adam Cole's return is a baby
Starting point is 00:43:20 face. Adam Cole's return as a heel. Then his return as a baby face again. I mean, just one thing after another, the BCC just being meaningless. So then Moxley just decides that all of a sudden he's some, you know, Neo, whatever the fucking thing is. Who even knows at this point? Neo Zoom Dweeby? Neo Max Zoom Jweeby. Yeah. But every single thing on this show has been building down.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Everything is just building down since the spring of last year. And everyone who shows up on that show gets tied into it. It's a bad, the formatting, I'm just going off of the whole show here, I know. But the formatting's bad. And specifically, who's going to be the person in the company, because it ain't Tony, and Tony's going to have to tell the person to do it, who's going to have the balls to tell John Moxley, we can't do this anymore. This is bad TV.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Possibly the network at some point? This is bad wrestling TV. You're not a creative, I know you love your ideas, and you should write them down. But they're never going to be on this show again. I'm paying you all this money. you're going to be my wrestler. Let me, and then that's the problem. And then the person's saying that is Tony.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. Yeah, this was a, what was the segment two? The Moxley promo. Well, but here's the thing we are, we are now unfortunately seeing apparently the beginning of the maelstrom of sinkage catching up with the Hurt Syndicate
Starting point is 00:44:57 in inhaling the Hurt Syndicate. because I'll explain it for the people that didn't see it and then I again welcome your thoughts Brian but Renee Moxley Goods in a parking lot and the SUV pulls up and outstep MVP and Shelton Benjamin and Bobby Lashley and they look like a man dressed in these custom-made suits and MVP has the big announcement
Starting point is 00:45:25 that Bobby Lashley will wrestle tonight his debut in the fucking, you know, first match to company. And suddenly in the parking lot again, swerve from behind, Knox Lashley over. And I've been bumped harder in line at Kroger at the checkout counter. But then the announcers had to call attention because you could barely see it on camera if you went back and
Starting point is 00:45:58 freeze-framed it that's the way you would know that Swerve's got this giant logging chain wrapped around his hand, but he didn't hit Lashley in the back of the head nor with his hand. And then when Lashley goes down and he falls
Starting point is 00:46:17 into Shelton, but Swerve backs up and stands there and Bobby doesn't get up and Shelton has to go down with Bobby because Swerve is standing. And then he turns around and runs off. Shelton Benjamin could have been up on his feet and run that motherfucker down in 40 feet and fucking took him down.
Starting point is 00:46:38 But he's doing his Keystone Cops deal where Bobby Lashley falls into him and he can't get up for 10 fucking seconds. What was his... Was it a 4-4-40 he did in school? Shelton, I'm to any way... I have no idea. Swerve leaves.
Starting point is 00:46:58 used to know because of the commentary. Swerve leaves an MVP who then finally runs after him. The guy was a fucking hip operation or whatever. And the announcers had to point out that Swerve had a chain on his hand because you never saw it. And I said, and what the fuck? And now here's Bobby Lashley.
Starting point is 00:47:18 He made a big debut, what, two weeks ago? And he's making his first wrestling appearance tonight. And this guy's already knocked him on his ass. I'm sorry that they got heat on swerve so early but now it's not the time for it to be even Stephen somebody's telling Tony some of his playbooker friends on the internet when he was in college or maybe now
Starting point is 00:47:46 they're not just on the internet anymore they're right next to him he got some heat last week so now swerve has to get no I don't care Bobby Lashley is the bigger star then swerve strickland because he's been a champion and on a majorly pushed role for the biggest promotion
Starting point is 00:48:05 to has tripler ratings, whatever the fuck. He's a bigger star but not in this atmosphere yet. He needs to come in and he needs to be taken seriously and shown that he is serious and gotten over in this atmosphere, much like everybody else needs to be and should be and seldom are. and if you're upset that he got too much on swerp needs to get some back on him
Starting point is 00:48:32 because he got the match coming out. Guess what? You're rushing a fucking match. It's too soon because all the parts aren't ready yet. You put some of the ingredients in your goddamn meatloaf while they were still frozen and the other ones were raw and they cooked at an improper fucking balance. oh, Chef Khan. So that's what the problem is.
Starting point is 00:49:01 So already there's Sabba, and we'll get to the other part later on. But now they're being made to look like Fumbly McFumbleton and crew. What the fuck is going on with this show? Your thoughts on that, by the way. Well, I mean, there's a lot of different problems there. First of all,
Starting point is 00:49:23 Bobby Lashley's first match is an unannounced match. until minutes before it. So anyone who was just going to be curious to see how he was in an AEW ring, they may not know about it. That's the first thing. The second thing is, you know, it's like Swerve is both the worst book baby face
Starting point is 00:49:44 and the worst book heel at the same time. And there was no reason, whatever we are, two, three weeks into Lashley being there, he shouldn't have been down on his ass for a second. And I don't know, I mean, I don't understand the logic in booking him that way. Even if he's going to beat swerve at the paper, you didn't have to give swerve this. Especially what's going to happen later on in show too, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And again, you want the Hurt syndicate to stand apart from everything else that is garbage on this show. It comes from the booking. who's going to be the person to responsibly book them because it's a missed opportunity and it's going to be because it's Tony Khan, it's going to be a missed opportunity. Even if you change nothing but they get out of the fucking car and they say Bobby Lashley is wrestling tonight and somebody said
Starting point is 00:50:45 well swerve Strickland's here and he's not too happy about it well then he needs to do something about it if he thinks he's man enough and leave it there with what's going to happen later on but no he's going to come up in in front of the other two guys that are both ambulatory knock his gown his ass and stand there for a minute and go yeah and then fucking lope off into the night unmolested what the fuck ha well as I said before another astounding episode of dynamite it was kind of on the road there but it was already all over the place like if you really think
Starting point is 00:51:23 about it November rain eight-man tag the moxley art project and then the MVP and us and let's say swerve it was Swirp MVP and Lashley and Shelton their thing it's all over the play there's no feel to the show it's just let's go to a completely different thing now
Starting point is 00:51:44 and now something completely different from that what was the next segment speaking of things that are completely different explain to me now why Adam Cole's own friends are telling him he's just a big wuss and he can't beat MJ I can't explain any of this. Okay, he comes out for story time with Adam Cole, baby, and they'll still do boom, and they'll still do baby,
Starting point is 00:52:10 but then he basically, you know, I'm just, I'm bummed that I'm not getting MJF at full gear, but at least Roddy succeeded, and he's going to whip MJF's ass, and then the music plays, and here comes Kyle O'Reilly. who he makes note that 14 years ago
Starting point is 00:52:31 here in Reading, Pennsylvania we had our second match together and people they didn't pop for their own town because it wasn't exactly Hogan and Andre returning to the Silver Dome on a 30th anniversary right or whatever
Starting point is 00:52:45 but Kyle tells Adam Cole you got to drop your obsession with MJF you got to stop having your friends fight your battles for you it's not healthy Roddy can get hurt I mean I don't know what he's pleading with he actually said MJF is three steps ahead of everybody
Starting point is 00:53:06 and I don't want to see my friends get hurt MJF is more of an evil bastard than you'll ever be and that's a good thing you're too good of a guy and so I swear to God he's telling him that you're too good of a guy you don't have any of you to fuck this guy He's going to beat that shit out of you. And you're getting all of us hurt, too. What kind of psychology is this?
Starting point is 00:53:32 You know, when I was a kid, I used to hear the story. I wish I could remember the principal's name. But the principal at Lido School, Lido Elementary School, was this woman who was getting up there in years and maybe not in step with the rest of the school board or whatever, but they couldn't get her to retire. they had to ask my grandmother, knowing she was close with the woman, to take her out to lunch and have a talk with her,
Starting point is 00:53:57 and see if she could understand, and she retired under very pleasurable terms after that. I kind of felt like that's what this was. He was like, you're a great guy. You know, you like video games. Maybe you could do something with video games. Oh, damn it. You don't have to go back to this Max thing.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Nobody wants any more of that. He's right. I mean, everything he was saying was right. to his fucking yellow friend again looks like a fucking Simpson's character now with the but so
Starting point is 00:54:36 basically that's what he said MJF is more of an evil bastard than you'll ever be and that's a good thing and then he just walked off O'Reilly did and left Adam Cole standing there confused as were the people because it was just kind of like
Starting point is 00:54:51 it's over, there's no what, are we going to be told or understand here? So that was that. You know, maybe it would have been better if Adam Cole had been a fucking manager because the promos he could have been cutting all this time and he wouldn't have broke all of his various bones
Starting point is 00:55:16 that he's broken in his company. As a complete chicken shit, especially with that hair, just the idea of the hair flying around with a punch or a bump or whatever. Yes. He would have been great. He could have been Bobby Heenan. He could have been the best working manager.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Now his friends are telling him, hey, give it up shit. Just stick with the fucking mid-card guys. You know, because this fucking guy. We go now to the Challenger for the World Heavyweight Title. he as the dream machine Troy Graham would have said he needs to eat a lot more of Van Camp's pork and beans
Starting point is 00:55:57 to be a heavyweight pockets is in the back and you've heard of people Brian who have this condition who sleepwalk you've heard of sleep walking right I have yeah he's also heard of sleep talking
Starting point is 00:56:13 because that's what he does he talks like a guy talking in his sleep And here's this fucking hatchet-headed guy. His whole promo is, I'm going to beat O Wheeler tonight, and I'm going to beat Moxley, and I'm going to beat you alone. And there comes Mark Briscoe and Rocky Romero with Ishi. And they're saying, we're going to have your back.
Starting point is 00:56:43 And he said, no, I don't want you to help me. He actually tells Moxley tonight, do what you need. do five on one. Because I just don't care. I don't care about anything. Just whatever. Saturday at full gear, you're going to need all the help you can get.
Starting point is 00:57:01 But here's the, again, the psychology. It's not that his friends are saying, we're going to help you beat up the heel champion and win his belt. They should be saying we're going to, this is what has been theoretically the idea of, from the start of time is that the other baby faces, friends of his would keep
Starting point is 00:57:25 his heel henchmen from interfering so that it's even between pockets and Moxley. And then if pockets can beat him fair and square, well, there you go, but they're supposed to keep a level playing field. But no, he says, no, don't help me. What was it? He said, a weir to him.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I don't want these guys to get hurt. I'm obviously the only one tough enough here to fight all five of these fucking guys. Yeah, I'm a moron. I'll do it. Yeah, that's the point. That's what people are thinking because then he goes out there and he gets murderized. Five fucking guys. Just battered and beaten it like, pummeled like a government mule.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And his friends don't come out until afterwards. We'll get there. But that's the... They're trying to sell this clown like he's bruiser Brody. and he's asking for these five fucking heels and don't sell anything anyway to just beat him up five on one because he don't want his pussy friends to get hurt is this what this story is?
Starting point is 00:58:30 I'm snoozer Brody. This whole thing is terrible and again this... Snoozer Brody may replace pockets. I got to write that down. Well, thank you very much. But again, this is the top feud in the company. John Moxley, for reasons no one can understand,
Starting point is 00:58:50 has announced that he hates AEW. I know the feeling. He hates AEW. And he's going to mall and murder. He tried to murder Brian Danielson at least twice. It's crazy to say that about a wrestling thing. He tried to murder him at least twice. And Ange Cassidy's worried that.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And he doesn't care. But he doesn't do it in like a baby face. Like the way Tracy Smothers would. Yeah, yeah. You know, just, you know, I don't count. need anybody like fire. Instead it's like oh come on even now the fucking gimmick the dead gimmick sucks this sucks so much it's sucking the life out of that show you look at those fans those crowds like I said it's either everything sucks and the fans are reacting that way or orange Cassidy is so
Starting point is 00:59:39 influential over their fan base that they've taken on his apathetic personality for the entire Well, we're going to check in later on with the plumber and this reject from the oil pit at Valvalene. But first we have to endure another match. Chris Stadlander. She's going to be fighting the giant monetary flop known as Mercedes Mone at full gear. So what do they do? They put her in the ring with another baby face. and have her go 10 competitive minutes.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Oh, come on. The post match made it all worth it. All right, well, then she beat Hikaru Shida by the hair of her chinny, chin, I guess we shouldn't say that about the women. By the way, Hikar Shida's terrible. I know because she was in the early days and she was like... I wasn't defending her. Friends with Kenny.
Starting point is 01:00:40 People would have been like, oh, she's really good. She's terrible in the ring. She's terrible. But anyway, go ahead. But also, again, Statlander took 10 minutes to win, and then they shook hands. So it's like kissing your sister. Although if she had kissed, she did, it might
Starting point is 01:00:55 be more interesting, but then again, that would be infringing on Maria May and Mitsuerykawa's gimmick. It's like kissing your sister if she was dressed like a hostess at the pancake house. I said, I don't know what's it. Ah, but anyway. She's coming to ring with a menu. That was Arne Anderson's gimmick, remember? No.
Starting point is 01:01:17 The Waffle House menu is coach of Cody. But nevertheless, so the match is over, they shake hands, and then here comes Mercedes and Camille. And Mercedes does the stripper shimmy, and there is no reaction whatsoever to this woman, or now these people. Camille is out there with her arm in a sling, she's dressed like a normal person,
Starting point is 01:01:42 she has a look on her face like she has realized that abandon all hope, ye who enter into Tony Kahn's river sticks of booking. They've somehow booked her into being the most sympathetic heels since George the Animal Steel. Well, no, actually, I'm starting not to feel sorry for her because even with one arm, she could kick the shit out of this skinny little bitch that she's pushing her around.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Oh, my God, every week, what did I say? Every week, she hurts her arm and yells, ow. Ow! Ow! Ow! So, Mercedes does a promo on Stantlander, and the fans, and by the way, TBS is not like USA Network. They're not even making an attempt to believe it.
Starting point is 01:02:25 The fans, and not in the way of like you're a really hot heel, but in the way of, oh, please stop doing what you're doing. Our Channing shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. And then Mercedes, which she's done with the promo on Stadlander, she tells Camille, is she pissed me off? Go beat her up. she got her arm in a fucking sling right and go beat her up
Starting point is 01:02:52 and Camille's like what have we established why that what employment agreement did Mercedes make with Camille that indicates that if Mercedes says step in front of that fucking Volkswagen Camille's got a goddamn get fucking beetled what so she's starting into the ring reluctantly now and so then we can officially say now Camille is dead
Starting point is 01:03:22 ask for a release before this kills your after AEW career I don't know how much they're paying you but good God she gets in a ring like a whipped puppy she looks at both of the baby faces and then and by the way there's two baby faces she's still in there she did just because she didn't Stalander
Starting point is 01:03:44 kicked the shit out of each other for 10 minutes doesn't mean that there's any hard feelings. So now this heel with one arm gets in a ring with two able-bodied baby faces. Oh. I need oxygen. And she swings with her good arm at Stantlander, and Stantlinder blocks it and nails her,
Starting point is 01:04:10 and Shita roundhouse kicks her in the head. And then Stantlander thinks is going to be a good idea. throw her out of the ring. She's only got one arm, and it's the right when she can't catch the rope right. She has to catch the rope with her right hand and flip them, and she lands on the bad arm, and then she sells it. And then as she goes down on the floor, she, the baby face gets on the floor and starts kicking the injured heel while she's down. And when she throws the kick at her, she falls down doing it. Accidentally. and then
Starting point is 01:04:48 while Stadlander is looking at her other baby face friend kicking a shit out of this poor injured girl Mercedes tries to jump on Statlander's back and and like she was going to do the backstabber thing but Stadlander's so powerful she was going to stand up and turn it into pull her over
Starting point is 01:05:10 and turned into a tombstone but Mercedes had three tries to jump up on her fucking back catching her by surprise each time. And then she turned I can't believe this girl's jumping on my... Oh, she's off. Oh, I can't believe she's jumping on my... Oh, she's off. Oh, I can't believe she's jumping. And then she turned it into the tombstone pile driver
Starting point is 01:05:33 and left Mercedes laying there. And there's Camille had the shit kicked out of her on the floor. The heat. My God, it was... Hillen heat, scalden heat, boiling heat. But again, the Camille went from being a striking, large, attractive, intriguing, bodyguard type of possibility to give some kind of muscle and personality to this total complete loss Mercedes. And now, and she's just any flunky in two months.
Starting point is 01:06:14 It's puzzling, but again this is Mercedes Monet writing her own stuff with her own people. I forgot about Alexander Pepper Day. And then working with the booking genius of Tony Kahn on everything to make sure it all works together just right. No, I really want to see if Statlander can get her hands on these two at the pay-per-view. Well, I'm afraid if she does, she'll go to prison this time. Is Camille being hazed? Did she do something to someone? I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Like, the booking of Camille is puzzling. It doesn't make any sense. You know what? It is like the old days when there was a sudden change in a booker at a territory and somebody that was like in a middle of a eight-week mega push, all of a sudden is doing a tag team match with a job guy's a partner on TV the next week. So remember when last we left the Hurt Syndicate, they had been made to look like
Starting point is 01:07:20 the three stooges in the parking lot by one guy so now we come and they're in the back MVP and Shelton are in the back with a guy with the camera or whatever and there's a come here follow me or whatever the flimsy premise is and they see a guy with his back turned wearing swerves fur coat
Starting point is 01:07:46 and they grab the guy and jack him up against the wall and it's some random, some random civilian in Reading, Pennsylvania that has dreadlocks and is wearing a full-length fur coat in the back of the arena where there's no fans allowed. And wearing swerves coat is really what it is. And wearing swerves coat. Or an identical coat, it wasn't made clear.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Is that the only coat of its kind in the world? Is that the coat of many? colors. Did they find an extra in Reading, Pennsylvania who just happened to have the same coat? Well, that's what I'm thinking is that this guy just happened to be wearing the coat, because why would swerve give the guy the coat? Well, is Tony, is Tony paying now for his top guys to have body doubles? You know, I saw that movie with Kathleen Turner. It was excellent. But the point is, it led nowhere, because later on, we're going to find out that fucking Ned Swervington is under the ring, he's not wearing his coat, but why did he want to get this poor guy beat up?
Starting point is 01:08:52 Just because they found a guy wearing swerve's coat doesn't mean that now we're convinced that swerve is nowhere around here, won't be attacking us any goddamn minute. He just knows we found his fucking coat. Is he trying to throw us off the scent? They should be more goddamn nervous. What the fuck is going on here? Oh shit, is that swerve? You're a swerve, I'm a big fan.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Oh, yeah, thanks. You, I really felt bad for you when they fucking burn your house down. Thanks. Hey, that's a great coat. Here, you want it? Wear it. See you later. Yeah, here you go. You put this coat on it. Just turn your back to the corner there. It'll be fine. Yeah, what was the guy doing? What was he doing? Yeah, he was just looking at the wall. He was inspecting the fucking wall. So, so the hurts are being Tony conned here now, finally. And at 856... Will Washington. But anyway... Well, I... Oh, Will Wheaton was a successful fucking television personality. Well, movies, too. Don't forget stand by me.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Well, there you go. I will never let you down. I'll always lean on you when you're not strong. Did you see the movie stand by me? Many, many years ago on television of some description. Television of some description? Yes, it could have been local. It could have been cable. It could have been before cable. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:11 It's an old description. I didn't know if the man could be a circle. Could be a square. Could be a rectangle. Well, no, it was tube-like. A rhombus. What? What? Rombus. What is a rhombus?
Starting point is 01:10:22 I'm not sure. Well then, why are you fucking... I know it's out there. I know it's one of them. I know it's one of them. You're not allowed to just say words that you know are words, but you don't know what they fucking are. I sure am when it comes to shapes. Do you know it's a shape?
Starting point is 01:10:38 I'm looking it up right now. Rombus shape. Yes, it is. Well, they're shaped like Romulans. It's a... The rhombus is 20... Oh, no, excuse me. That's not 20.
Starting point is 01:10:48 It's 2D. The rumbus is a quadrilateral whose four sides all have the same length. Wait a minute. You've got four sides all the same length? That's a fucking square. No, it's a rumbus, and it's not a square. How can four sides all the same length not be anything other than a square? You see, you're yanking my fucking dick here.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I'm not Mr. Wizard. It's not me. Are you reading Mr. Wizard's book? I am not. Does he have a book? How do you spell that rambus? I thought he said how do you spell wizard? R-H-O-M-B-U-S.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Okay, hold on. You could have done that even quicker. I could have kept up with you. I know, Rio Omnibus. Rambis. Oh, good Lord. Rombus, Rombus. Rombus.
Starting point is 01:11:42 An equilateral parallel, perilogic... Stop it. an equilateral parallelogram. Wait, hold on, parallelogram. P-A-R. P-A-A-parapherapine?
Starting point is 01:12:07 No, no, that's a wax. Paraplegia. No, that's a... No, no, no. A parallelogram, a four-sided plane figure with opposite sides parallel. A four-sided plane figure with opposite sides parallel.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Well, opposite sides would always be parallel on a thing with four sides, wouldn't it? Wait a minute. Plain figure with opposite. Parallel. Parallel. Being an equal distance apart everywhere and never intersecting. Well, both sides of a square or that. Well, let me try to help you a little bit, Jim.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I will look up what is the difference between a square and a rhombus? Yeah. See, my dictionary doesn't have the answer to questions like that. The main difference between a square and a rhombus is that all the angles of a square are equal to 90 degrees. And hence, are equal in measure. But in the case of a rhombus, only the opposite angles are equal. Does that help you out? You have another five seconds or I'm going to have to the answer.
Starting point is 01:13:37 What the opposite, the opposite, what? The opposite angles. Maybe that's what A.W. is doing. Opposite angles. Angles that have the opposite effect of what angles are supposed to do. The opposite angles. That's how you bring it back. I'm going to need you to mail me a diagram on paper of a rhombus.
Starting point is 01:14:03 And then I'll get back to you all that. Hold on. You just Googled it. No images came up? I didn't Google it. I've opened the American Heritage Dictionary, third edition, looked up rhombus, which led me to the parallelogram. There's no fucking schematic there. What are you laughing at? I'm trying to learn. All right. Well, let's get back to the opposite angles on AEW Dynamite. You know, Jim?
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yes. It's funny, because thinking about... Funny that way. If there's so many funny things happening, things are happening all over. All over. Listen. You know what the problem is? I'm all off today, because my back's all messed up.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Sound like you're low on protein to me. I didn't have my usual organ today because my whole schedule is all screwed up. And now I'm here with you. And as soon as we're done, I'm going to have my organ. And everyone else can have theirs too. and you can regain your organ, and with your organ, you can be orgasmic. Because, and a matter of fact, as soon as you grab that delicious protein shake, the chocolate fudge, the 30 grams of protein,
Starting point is 01:15:23 and this delicious chocolate milkshake apparatus they got, and you throw that back, just throw your head back and just guzzle. Down your goosel pipe, Brian, the chocolatey, milky, goodness there within, your back is going to feel better instantly. This is a rejuvenator. Ladies and gentlemen, it rejuvenates. I don't believe any of that is actually one of the things that they claim, so let's be careful not to make our own claims in the name of the fine people in organ. It rejuvenates the lead in your pencil, I'll tell you that. You can take a swig of this stuff and boy, howdy, it's like you're down in New Orleans on Bourbon Street. The 30-gram
Starting point is 01:16:03 protein shakes are an excellent source of complete protein with all nine essential amino acids. And you know about those aminos, if you don't have dump some acid on them every now and then, they can take over the whole flower bed. So it's going to give you energy to keep you going, provide muscle support and recovery, help you maintain a healthy lifestyle, and manage hunger. And that's what we all want to do, manage hunger. as a matter, you see somebody hungry on the street, slap one of these bad boys in their hand,
Starting point is 01:16:36 and they will swing it down, and maybe they can mix it with some ripple. Well, first of all, no. Don't slap anyone with anything. Hand over very nicely the suggestion of a healthy thing they can ingest instantly. Well, it tastes good, too. And it's delicious, and of course... Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:54 If you want protein for your healthy body, your body is a temple, Brian, and that's why if you've found it, find some bum, some drunk. Lay off the ripple. I guess that was my other point. Lay, yeah, you know, drinking a bottle of ripple, slap one of these in their hand and get them to trade, or at least add to, because then you could have some orgipple.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Or you know what you get when you mix champagne and ripple, shampple? Or eggnog and ripple is egg nipple. Okay, well, you could have some orgipple here. No, just not know, just have ordain. These drunk bums laying in a sewer somewhere would have... In a sewer? They'd have more protein in their systems and they would feel better and they could shake off the bonds of alcoholism. So you're going into the sewer to find these people.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Well, someday, you've got to go where the people are. And, you know, some people, they're born in the sewer, they live in a sewer, they die in a sewer, they commit suicide. Oh, come on now. So again, let's get back to the deliciousness. Well, I'm telling you, drink these because they taste great and they have the protein that makes you feel good. only one gram of sugar per serving. It's made with no artificial flavors or sweeteners. You've scoffed my idea of pouring it over ice cream,
Starting point is 01:18:09 but I'll tell you what, it's delicious. But you can also, besides taking care of yourself, do something nice for other people and give them an organ protein shake, especially if they're down on their luck so that they too can rise back to the cream of society. because you can get these things. They're so, so inexpensive,
Starting point is 01:18:33 but we can save you money. We can save you 20% off these things, and that way you can give two out of ten of them away to somebody and still break even, and you'll be charitable. I think you can write this off your tax. Let's not look at it that way. That's the wrong way to look at it. Let's get away to spend some money on something that will be good for you,
Starting point is 01:18:51 something that you'll feel good, drinking. It's delicious right after you work out, or maybe before you, workout or maybe in the morning, maybe in the evening. It's good all the time, 24 hours a day. That's guaranteed. It's the same deliciousness. Any hour of the day, that's the guarantee.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Or gain in the morning, or gain in the evening, organ at supper time. And take some down to the jail and give them to the criminals. And that way it'll spring them out of jail. They'll instantly spring up. Whoa, whoa, that's wrong. First of all, I don't know how you're supposed to sneak these in. Let's not even discuss how it will.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Well, it'll straighten these people up. It'll heal their brains. They're drinking all this meth that they're making under their kitchen sink. That's not how it all worth. They don't drink meth. This is not how any of this works. That's why that they're in the shape they're in in jail now. They're drinking the mess.
Starting point is 01:19:43 So take them some organ and you get them all out of jail. They'll be working in your own homes and businesses soon. Okay. Why don't we just focus on how organe is good for the listener? as opposed to other people who... Well, you know, people... Someone else can worry about right now. Remember, we got that email.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Somebody was listening to us in jail. No, we have a lot of listeners there, but the point is we're not... Well, what? They don't deserve protein shakes in jail? Is that what you're saying? You know, Stephen P. Neu sued people in West Virginia like you that want to mistreat the inmates.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I don't want to mistreat the inmates. That wasn't what I'm saying. Folks, if you're an in federal or state or local penitentiaries, and you'd like to save... 20% on the delicious Orgain 30 gram protein shakes. A normal citizen, wherever you may be, this is for you. Well, you can do that too.
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Starting point is 01:21:20 after all, they know it's me and Johnny Cash that are the champions of prisoners' rights. Every convict should have an Orgain sitting in front of them in the morning, you'll have fewer prison riots. Well, again, let's focus on everyone else and the X-cons right now. Let's talk about organ one more time, Jim.
Starting point is 01:21:39 It's delicious. I love it. I didn't have it today. I will after we're done. Well, don't tell your parole officer that you didn't have your organ today. Oh, stop it. Oh, you're off parole now?
Starting point is 01:21:49 You're not on parole anymore? Jim, what's that promo code one more time? J-C-E. All right Let's get back to dynamite Oh we were talking about the Hertz being dynamited
Starting point is 01:22:07 The Hertz syndicate is being blown up by explosive booking So, and by the way It was After they grabbed the guy with the coat Oh What? I have an update
Starting point is 01:22:19 Uh-oh All squares are rhombuses As all sides of a square Are of equal lengths All squares are also rectangles as each internal angle is 90 degrees. All squares are not parallelograms. I need to see this on paper.
Starting point is 01:22:42 That's all I'm saying. Anyway, the Hertz, back to them, it was four minutes to nine, the magic hour when they send out the stars, and it's Lashley and MVP and Shelton Benjamin, and Lashley is going to have his debut match on television. And first of all, did you, they called it a,
Starting point is 01:23:02 this is a two on one match instead of a handicap match. Is that now, is that, like midget wrestling, are you not allowed to say handicap match? Has that ever,
Starting point is 01:23:15 are golfers allowed to play golf with a handicap anymore? Has a handicapped person ever complained about a handicap match being called a handicap match? Not that I've ever heard of, but they had a handicapped person.
Starting point is 01:23:28 have a goddamn match on this show before, remember? The legless man? I guess you're right. But they can't say they can have a legless wrestler, but they can't say handicap match. They don't say legless anymore either. He's devoid of lower extremities. He's, he's tibularly challenged.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Anyway, it was Bobby Lashley versus some guy named Joe P. and Cheeseburger. And I'm not trying to say that Cheeseburger is not a nice young fellow. Are you familiar with Cheeseburger's course in the wrestling industry and how he got here to this point today, Brian? I know the name. I feel like I possibly could have seen him on one of the Ring of Honor shows I had gone to. Yes, you did. You know, not really my...
Starting point is 01:24:24 He was a very skinny... I remember him being skinny. I mean, he looked... It looked like he killed out a little bit. He looked bigger now that he did. Well, he actually, he's painfully thin now and he's gained a lot of weight. Yeah. But no, and I'm not knocking him as a person.
Starting point is 01:24:38 But here's Cheeseburger is a young man that was training in 2000, maybe seven, eight, whatever. Out of very early with Hunter Johnston, Delirious. Delirious was operating the Ring of Honor training school and program and did through the Sinclair era as well. among 18 other jobs he did in that company. And he liked Cheeseburger. I think he got his name because he was over there that skinny and eating fucking Big Macs or whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:11 But he can do all the moves. It's just physically, it's, you know, it's a gimmick in itself. And if you, you know, if you're just going to bring him in as a job guy instead of actually working a gimmick, here this guy is like as big around as a fucking hiccup, but, you know, whatever, then it just looks stupid and funny. And he's from Reading, apparently, because about, you know, 75 hometown friends
Starting point is 01:25:42 were chanting cheeseburger, cheeseburger. But this is Bobby Lashley's debut. He should have been in there against two guys that weren't that big, but physically 200 pounds, 210 pounds athletic looks serious instead Joe the guy was
Starting point is 01:26:04 he was trying to make the most of his time on camera by trying to sell and do everything that he was supposed to do right but he's also green as a pepper tree and then cheeseburger can do all the shit but he visually humorous at a point in time
Starting point is 01:26:21 where you don't want people be laughing so they had they made Lashley's debut match funny and again hunter thought a lot of him and used him he was on the ring crew while I was there but he used him quite extensively
Starting point is 01:26:39 there's nothing matter with that was not the place for him the casting department let Bobby Lashley down here with picking the right opponent visually for what they were doing and then he mulled both of them and hurt locked old Joe
Starting point is 01:26:57 as he was supposed to, and then swerves music plays. And again, this is where we go from, you know, killers to Keystone cops. It always has to be funny somehow. Nana comes out the entranceway, and Shelton sees Nana and runs over there and chases him back through the tunnel.
Starting point is 01:27:24 One would think maybe MVP being the man would have gone out to leave the fucking fighter out for the still unidentified, unaccounted for, swerve Strickland. But Sheldon chases Nana, who's obviously a threat himself all the way out of the building. And then MVP is at ringside with his cane,
Starting point is 01:27:46 but he's looking around in the stands like, where is he going to come from? Where he came from was conveniently right, from under the ring, right where MVP was standing with his back turn. And he goes in a ring, also where Lashley's back is turned, and he hits him with a chain again.
Starting point is 01:28:05 As New Jack would say, chained in the bowels of a slave ship. He was chained in the back of the head again. And then he leveled MVP. MVP jumps up and he levels him so already the manager has been punched and is down. We don't need to wait to see that anymore. And then here comes Shelton back.
Starting point is 01:28:26 He nails him and knocks him down. And then he comes. kicks Lashley in the head and does the double stomp on him and leaves him laying there. Well, he stands over him first and then he leaves before Shelton and MVP can get back in the ring and do anything about it. As I told Vince McVan one time when he was suggesting the quick fashion to beat Antonio Pena's champion, why don't we just pissed his mouth while he's down there? What did they leveled Lashley?
Starting point is 01:29:03 I didn't know that was an option. I'll keep that in mind. I'm the one that put it in his mind. What the fuck? Lashley's on his fucking face already. What the fuck is going on here? Are they out of their mind? Well, that's a rhetorical question.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Are they out of their minds? Could you believe you were seeing it in front of the pay-per-view? We don't even have to pay to see Swerve emasculate all three of these guys. make them look like goddamn Mo Larry and Curley, we can see it on free television because the fucking guy running this show is a goddamn lunatic.
Starting point is 01:29:45 To the people that argue that if Swerve's going to do the job to Bobby Lashley at the pay-per-view, he has to have something beforehand to, I don't know what, even things out or just make him... What would you say to that? Even things out?
Starting point is 01:30:02 I say, goddamn Lashley needs to come back and do some more shit to him to get even with this. That's a thing. Maybe the baby face comes in and wrecks something of the heels or fucking takes the piss out of him in some embarrassing
Starting point is 01:30:17 way. But again, the point is that's assuming you said if Lashley's going to win, then doesn't swerve have to get something. That's assuming that both guys have been in the territory and this confrontation
Starting point is 01:30:33 has been planned and built for some time where both guys are at an equal level of over in this environment on this program. And that is not, to actually, it's his first fucking time wrestling on a goddamn whole show. He just got here, as I said earlier, even if he's a bigger star nationwide,
Starting point is 01:30:53 Nathan Wide, baby, you have to be established in this, in this atmosphere. You can't just hop in from fucking true blood. and announce that now you're a character on fucking American horror story
Starting point is 01:31:08 you get there well why are you here and what you know you're going to do something for me to get me interested in you that whole type of thing so they're rushing this to begin with so there is no proper answer that fits all your parameters
Starting point is 01:31:24 Brian to try to cut this off for it goes any longer nothing correct fits all the parameters but you would not I would think as one of the top five or ten choices have your baby face that's just started interacting with these people
Starting point is 01:31:40 less than a month ago lay out the goddamn heel opponent and make buffoons of his manager and henchman a week before the fucking not even a week before the pay-per-view where you're trying to sell a match between them
Starting point is 01:31:55 where Swerve is supposed to try to get even for what Lashley did to him I think Lashley needs to come back and pissing his post-toasty some more just to make it even now. My sympathies lie with Lashley. They need to abandon all of this and just do a restart, another restart next week,
Starting point is 01:32:15 and have the death riders all come out, and then have the Hurt syndicate come out, just wipe them all out. On the same show, put Lashley over for the belt. Fuck it. And that's it. This group could have believably taken over this company if they wanted to,
Starting point is 01:32:30 but what they should have done, and again, is just let Shelton and Lerner, Lashley come out and look like a million dollars and let MVP talk about them like their major superstars and have them on a weekly basis. Shelton one week, Bobby the next, beat people that are names on the card that have been there forever that ain't doing you any good, but they've got some cachet built up with the basic fan base and beat them like red-headed stepchildren. And do that for two or three months and you, every time you play their music and they come out
Starting point is 01:33:05 of people to be roaring. Just let them do their shit. Do you want to skip over the bad promo between Maria and Mitsu Arakawa and they were shaking their tits again? Well, Mina Shirokawa, and once again, I guess this is like an inside joke now in the company, the segment ended with,
Starting point is 01:33:31 specifically Mariah Mae doing the tit shaking this time right to the camera, staring at the camera, aggressively shaking her breast it doesn't look the same when it's not natural it looks a little weird what is this is this some another one of these japanese things that doesn't translate over here but they keep trying to make it do they do that in the girls indie outlaw promotions in japan is that that's some sign of
Starting point is 01:33:59 something like the rapid fire chops in the corner the rapid fire tit shaking or is this just does tony have a A succulent nipple fetish. A boob fetish. Yeah, is Tony a boob man? Oh, well, now that opens up all kinds of double meaning. Yeah. I would call him a boob in some instances, but that's just me.
Starting point is 01:34:23 But nevertheless. Would you call him a man? Well, that may be more up to debate than the boob. Could he just be boob boy? All right. Well, we'll see more of Mina and Mariah and the Flying Tits at the pay-per-view for this. I can't even say it. for the champagne celebration.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Yes, and just which end of the bottle, you think, is going in first? That's what... It's Newark. That's what I'm wondering. All right, then it was time for Darby Allen versus Claudio Castignoli. And Darby Allen, by the way, if they were going to have an undersized baby face challenging Moxley for the title, then, well, here he is, but I guess Moxley, Boxley's got to beat Pockets first so that Darby that can then come to
Starting point is 01:35:13 the good Darby it seems like Darby is that going to have to come to Pockets his rescue even though Pockets has 20 pounds on him 160 to 140 after this match who knows what the fuck they're thinking I don't know what they're thinking here this was an interesting choice wasn't it because folks you would think Darby Allen versus Claudio we've seen Claudio's track record over the last few years since he's been there that he would generally always be defeated by a baby face of Darby Allen's standing in the community.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And this was the same match as always. Claudio's got a foot on him and 100 pounds on him. So Claudio does everything to anything he can possibly do for around 10 minutes. And Darby lives through all of it. And then finally, normally it would be that Darby does something resilient and smart and gets the win. But in this case, Claudio just took him out on the floor
Starting point is 01:36:16 and got on the announced desk and pressed Darby up over his head and pitched him from standing on the announced desk and Claudio's 6-6 or whatever. So pitched him like 10 feet in the air across the way to another table that he landed on that didn't break.
Starting point is 01:36:36 because he landed right on top of the legs rather than in the middle of it and he's bounced and it bounced again, fell on his head, and then the tablecloth came off the table that didn't break and as he fell, he wrapped himself up in it. So it looked like a goddamn, some kind of self-service machine at Taco Bell
Starting point is 01:36:56 wrapping the fucking burritos or whatever. And, okay, one would think that that would pretty much incapacitate, Mr. Allen. So Claudio gets back in the ring and the referee starts counting. And at the count of nine, Darby suddenly instantly gets the energy to dive into the ring and then lay there again so that Claudio can wind up and close line him and beat him one, two, three. So they didn't even do a count out that you would have bought to save the guy. But this is, if they have a baby face that's going to fight Moxley next,
Starting point is 01:37:40 it's probably going to be Darby, and Darby or Osprey, because nobody gives a shit about any of their other baby faces. So they have one of Moxley's henchmen beat Darby and not just beat him with an out, but beat him flat as a fucking pancake. Is now Moxley just decide, well, nobody can beat anybody in my little band of Mary Pranksters?
Starting point is 01:38:08 I can't explain the booking here You know, I'm not a big Claudio fan I thought he was all right back in a day I think he's I don't know the European sleeping pill He's a wonderful technician But he's been used much better in other genres And Darby
Starting point is 01:38:28 For whatever it's worth Darby's the one guy who still does move things in a positive way You know up until at least recently Darby's segments would be higher rated than other segments. Remember that match Darby and Moxley actually on Dynamite, I think. Yeah. Was one of the last times that quarter eight went up into the overrun because of that match.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And we've come to find out it was more Darby than Moxley. And I don't think he's ever taken a loss like this in AW, to be honest with you. And I don't see the purpose of giving that to Claudio. I mean, even if they're not going to build them up for Moxley, why would you give that thing you know Claudio's not going to be like yeah i i don't know i don't know darby was in the main event a stings partner of the biggest show they've done all year in this country and the biggest pay-per-view uh they've done all year and and now he's getting beaten 10 minutes on tv by claudio who never really wins anything they found like every way
Starting point is 01:39:38 they could to deflate the fans there all throughout the night every single thing that happened one by one was how do we make these fans either feel awkward watching the screen or just hate what they're seeing in the ring well let's piss him off even further
Starting point is 01:39:56 let's remind him that MJF is not going to be there you want to let's let's put him up on a screen somewhere obviously not there so that people know well here's another goddamn star that we're just watching on television even though we paid for tickets. They have another mini movie.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Brian was there. Where was he in the swamp? Where was he? Well, it looked, he drove up a fancy sports car next to like an old dilapidated
Starting point is 01:40:33 like old garage like car you know garage mechanic place or something with an old car sitting out in front of it and a bum on the bumper and he flipped the quarter out in the fucking yard
Starting point is 01:40:49 and he said, go chase it. And the bum runs off. Where is he frequenting? And the camera was already there when he pulled in. There's potentially a murderer. Who knows who this whino could be? He could be wanted for goddamn
Starting point is 01:41:07 international espionage. and there's a man with a fucking $10,000 camera just sitting right in front of him waiting for MJF to drive up in the sports car. So what was the reason why this was set in this place? Did it have anything to do with anything that was being said or done? No, but it's interesting the inherent class warfare they present. MJF, the young guy making the big money now has the fancy car,
Starting point is 01:41:35 he's the bad guy. Moxley and Jack Perry both. millionaires are driving like the fucking station car. The car you leave with the train station. But they're millionaire. So I don't know. It's an interesting thing going on.
Starting point is 01:41:50 I still think Tony should just do wacky races. I think if Dynamite became a little bit of wrestling and then like 40 minutes of wacky races and then like 20 minutes of tits. And it seemed like they may be on the way there. So this promise. You think it's big WWE buying people? way until Tony starts just doing bull riding on the shows.
Starting point is 01:42:14 That could be its own segment, because they've already got a segment of bull. They get to have somebody ride it. So MJF's promo is about Roderick Strong, and he tells everybody, well, because you're trailer trash, Roddy, because you had a horrible childhood and your mother shot your father.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Did this come out? When have they ever said this on this program? When have they been talking? of how have we missed hearing I worked with him in Ring of Honor and had him fill out
Starting point is 01:42:49 goddamn questionnaires for the announcers I don't remember the story that his mother shot his father and now his mother and father
Starting point is 01:43:01 were both addicts and he was abused troubled child growing up the most annoying fucking heel on the show for the last two years
Starting point is 01:43:10 and Adam and fucking tormenting Adam Cole when he was injured making him do all and suddenly we find out that he was warped by his childhood and he's trying to overcome it and did this had this ever been said before i don't remember ever hearing about his mom shooting his dad the attic thing when when mjf said it or when it was said in this
Starting point is 01:43:43 whole thing i remember thinking okay maybe i heard that and then when mjf just casually said your mom shot your dad and moved on. I was like, wait a minute, what? When was that while he was trying to recruit the beast mortos? When did that happen on the show? Frank? When would they have had to win Adam Cole, or when Roderick Strong and Matt Taven and Mike Bennett
Starting point is 01:44:07 have been trying to be this heel fucking group as part of disciples of the devil, Adam Cole, and all the stuff that they've gone through? When would it have been a convenient time to mention that Roderick Strong's parents were substance abusers or addicts of whatever kind and that they shot each other. I don't remember that being brought up on his
Starting point is 01:44:28 television program. Well, I don't know anything about shooting each other, apparently. She shot him. Whichever. Well, God damn, you shoot me, motherfucker. Then buy gum. It wasn't who shot John. It was her. She shot John. Tit for tat. I mean, somebody should be firing back.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Tit for tat was the other segment. Oh, that's true. That's Marie. but nevertheless MJF as usual it's great delivery but what is this fucking material and then he closed up he said Roddy you're going to wish that your mother had shot you instead of your father
Starting point is 01:45:00 would the and again Roddy was just the most annoying he'll fuck until what three weeks ago and because then they're doing something else in the middle of I'll come back to it but Tony
Starting point is 01:45:18 Shavani was with Roddy and Taven and Bennett. And I didn't know. What are Tavin and Bennett doing? Besides paling around with Roddy, can't they be a tag team? We've got to endure all these other tag teams. Can we see them wrestle? That would kill the ratings right now. Based on the way they've been used in the last two years, no one wants to see them on the show. Well, nobody wants to see any of these people, but at least it might be easier for us. But Roddy does the promo.
Starting point is 01:45:47 and why if he's a sympathetic baby face now with a troubled childhood is he still doing? Max! And why is he wearing those fucking glasses that makes him look like a goddamn nerd at the library? Try to use the free internet. And his promo is my whole life. That's what people have talked about.
Starting point is 01:46:11 My mom's an addict. My dad's a dams. My dad's an addict. My mom shot my dad. When was anyone saying this? Where were the signs that they would hold up your mom shot your dad? My whole life everyone was saying this until he got into the wrestling business. And then they completely shut up.
Starting point is 01:46:33 And then no one ever said a word again. Not again. And then he said, I've earned everything that I have. He was a heel for a year and a half. And doing all the, they just like we didn't see it? They think, okay, we just didn't see that. And so they're trying to act like the most annoying heel in all. on the roster at one point is now a sympathetic baby face in three weeks because why?
Starting point is 01:46:59 I don't even know. It's not like MJF and Roderick Strong is going to boost the buy rate. And now think about this. You know MJF is going to win. So now they've had Roderick Strong come out and say, well, goddamn. Yeah, that's all that they've said is my parents were addicts and all made fun of this. and then he's going to get his ass kicked by the heel and he was making fun of it.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Meanwhile, Adam Cole's best friend is telling him don't fuck with MJF, he'll kill you. So what's the fuck? I felt bad like Roddy. In a lot of ways, Roddy gave the promo of his life and no one cared.
Starting point is 01:47:47 He spilled his guts out and the fans there didn't give a shit. No, because they don't believe it anyway. Because all this, even if it's true, we don't know if it's, even if it's true, everything else they hear is complete or shit. So, that doesn't make sense, so why should this? And if they'd have been hearing it and nobody did anything about it for a year or so, then they might care because they might believe it. But since it comes up two weeks before the goddamn deal or a week or whatever, no. If you're going to do an angle where the heel tells the, uh, the lesson. or heel, something like that, do you do it on a pre-tape, or do you do it in front of the
Starting point is 01:48:29 house so at least you get the moment? It's very Christian Cage, which is kind of, you know, very MJF. Well, yeah, and as you see that, then if you tell the guy to his face, then unless the guy just hauls off and kicks your ass, then it, and, can we not make... Should MJF come to the ring with drugs at the show in Newark? You know what, maybe some cocaine? Pink cocaine? Pink cocaine, yeah, and just sprinkle it all around.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Sort of like gorgeous George's valet did the spraying the perfume. He could have the pink cocaine. Oh. Are you excited for MJF Roddy Strong? Well, just as a wrestling match, yeah, it'll be probably the best thing on the show. But it's not going to sell a ticket. It's not going to sell a buy on its own to the paper. view it you know it's a waste of MJF and his potential drawing power if he was involved in
Starting point is 01:49:35 something or if he's not just don't don't put him on his fucking show but they almost have to because it's New York but then I don't know how they get them in the get themselves in these positions everything they have done has been a waste of MJF for a for a good while now and they can fuck that up too like they've diminished Osprey they still like him and cheer for him but you know ricochet's diminished
Starting point is 01:50:03 Adam Cole is moribund so it's going to happen to MJF and that's probably why he's staying away to try to prolong it what would you like to talk about this exciting indie film they shot
Starting point is 01:50:20 in the middle of the wrestling program Which one? The, oh, the, the, the kidnapping. The kidnapping and the reservoir dogs homage tied to a chair in a warehouse scene. The only thing we missed was cutting the guy's ear off. You know, if you're going to do this kind of fucking schlocky stuff, it can't be Daniel Garcia because he can't deliver the lines. Jack Perry sucks at being anything other than Jack Perry.
Starting point is 01:50:52 you don't believe him but Daniel Garcia just can't the voice is a problem well yeah I mean he's he's yelling he's yelling but it's it's so preposterous to begin with that I mean could we if it was De Niro and Pacino
Starting point is 01:51:11 in here but it was on a wrestling program where they're both wrestlers and then we're expected to believe that suddenly they take a detour into kidnapping and grand theft auto and doing it all on camera where it can be seen by the world on live television. I can't get past the band acting because they saw this and said,
Starting point is 01:51:32 okay, let's put this on the air. Because it was so ridiculous. It's like the kind of thing. The only person that likes it is the people that made it. That's what I'm saying. Tony's television show, I said this at the top of the program, has now become for the people who want to be cinematographers,
Starting point is 01:51:47 the people who want to be directors, people who want to be artis or autours of some kind. There's some actors in there, some performance artists. I'm sure Aubrey Ed is just dying to put some kind of musical dance routine together when they have the, you know, and maybe the fucking Bob Mackey can start doing the gowns and they'll have the June Taylor dancers. But this would, for the folks who were lucky enough not to see what went on, they did a video recap because apparently on collision Garcia not only stole
Starting point is 01:52:25 Jungle Jack's black painted scapegoat bread truck but chained Jack Perry to the front of it and stole it out of the building and he was running through barricades allegedly with Perry on the front of it and they also stole Mac Daddy and the camera
Starting point is 01:52:49 so that they could shoot this thing, shoot that thing. Well, that way they had some, at least they had that logic of why is there someone they're filming. It was because Garcia's friend was filming. Yes, because Garcia's mad at old Jack Perry for whatever it was he did to Mac Daddy whenever he did it. So...
Starting point is 01:53:11 You know, a few more years, Jack Perry's going to give John Moxley a run for his money in terms of being a badass, afraid of nothing. well I mean yeah because he scoffed at this whole thing basically they they show the footage of the kidnapping and the grand theft auto and the fact that they got mac daddy in the camera with them and then suddenly the camera is in a goddamn darkened warehouse and the only light is from the scapegoat headlights and there is jack perry tied to a chair and his mouth duct taped in the headlights and again
Starting point is 01:53:49 it was reservoir dogs without cutting the guys ear off and dumping gasoline on him he's Garcia is screaming at fucking Perry for what he did to McDaddy and what he's done and what he wants him to do and Perry is laughing at him
Starting point is 01:54:05 because he's such a he's not scared it I'm sorry but I don't care what you think of this motherfucker you take his fucking Hollywood bread ass and you have some asshole fucking kidnap him and tie him to a chair at a warehouse for real
Starting point is 01:54:20 and he's going to smother everybody in the room in his own shit. But he's laughing and Garcia said, I know where you want me to go and I'm never going to go there. So is this the first time in history that a motherfucker
Starting point is 01:54:38 has kidnapped another son of a bitch and spent all the time with the son of a bitch tied in a chair telling him what he's not going to to him. I'm not going to hurt you. I'm not going to fuck you up with this crowbar. I'm not going to cut you.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I'm not going to, I'm going to beat this shit out of your truck. Here, film this. I want there to be a record of this. I'm not going to do anything to you. He went, I'm not going to do anything to you. I'm going to beat the shit. And then he beats the shit out of the front of the truck that looks like it's been run off a goddamn cliff and set on fire anyway.
Starting point is 01:55:15 See, that's the thing. It's not even like his fancy car. The whole gimmick is it's a piece of shit car. And then it got beat up. You couldn't tell. You couldn't tell what the difference was when he got finished. And then they walked out and left Jack Perry in the warehouse room all alone in the dark laughing at them tied to the chair. And before you give any further comment, Brian, it also.
Starting point is 01:55:46 the only way that this could have been topped in terms of preposterosity is that after they've had this whole fucking scene there are people tied to chairs and duct taped and people being threatened with crowbars and screamed at and this dramatic shooting of this thing in a Blair Witch Project kind of fucking cinematography. And then they cut to Renee Moxley Good sitting at a table smiling,
Starting point is 01:56:14 introducing a contract signing with Jerry. And he's she. Like nothing is wrong. Yes, and folks, thank you. That kidnapping, yes,
Starting point is 01:56:25 this state does carry a possibility of life imprisonment, but now we've got a contract signing. What did you even, but to acknowledge. What you just saw? It was horrible. Let's go to that one,
Starting point is 01:56:38 a contract signer. Yes, what you saw was the only attempted murder that's not been perpetrated by my husband. Now let's go to this contract signing. Anything, but they just said, hello, hello, friends. By the way, they left a camera for Jack Perry. Yes, they did.
Starting point is 01:56:55 So I wonder if he's going to shoot. How's he going to get loose from that chair? Well, look, that was an astoundingly bad segment. And as I said earlier, it's almost like every segment is completely different than the one before it. And the tone and pace keeps changing. This next one, this contract signing, it was bad. and just what you thought it was over, it reached a whole new level of,
Starting point is 01:57:19 I don't even know what. Bad isn't the word. Mediocre isn't the word. Just... Awkward. Weird. Why are they doing this? Who thought this was a good idea?
Starting point is 01:57:33 But I'll throw it to you. Renée Moxley Good for the contract signing. Well, remember I said actors, writers, directors, autos, here was the cinematographer's chance to shine. Because they worked this worth. They almost did it as good as WWE. They had to break the shot, though. They couldn't do a one camera follow all the way through.
Starting point is 01:57:55 Fucking amateurs. But what, they're sitting there at a table in the back, and it says time for the official contract signing for this match that's coming up on Saturday. It's Wednesday night. And Jericho won't sign it. He wants to take it to show his lawyer. Well, again, too.
Starting point is 01:58:15 coming off the previous kidnapping segment yes when they go to the table jericho has that fake smile on his face so oh yeah that's what he does all the time now i just assume people it's just weird though again coming off that segment now like let's go to the next thing in the back and there it is and he's got the fakes smile on his face and it's frozen he it's just mooning it's frozen there and but that's is the you know he can't react anything else going on because he's got to do his fake shit but the and Renee said, well, this was sent to your lawyer last week. Well, live in the now, Renee. It's all about now.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And so they do the thing where he walks out of the room with the contract, and the camera starts following him, and then suddenly, he-she walks out of the room and is in the hallway about 15 feet behind him. And he sees that. and Jericho starts walking again and Ishi he's following him and they're
Starting point is 01:59:21 it gets more and more ridiculous when Jericho starts getting more and more nervous and starts walking a little faster and he'll pull a garbage can in his way and Ishi will bat it aside and then he'll say hey to somebody Ishi he wants to talk to you and he'll shove them away and it's an attempt at cinema like when the
Starting point is 01:59:46 WWE is doing the Jay Uso out in the people and they follow him through the breezeway and then the big entrance at some kind of cinema they're trying to do here but as Jericho starts walking up to stairs and then out into the breezeway up top and then another camera
Starting point is 02:00:02 has to intercept him because they come for out of way to make the whole thing work and it's still happening all he had to do was run from this crippled potato-shaped man They're just walking. And you can tell that
Starting point is 02:00:17 Ishi can't walk any faster. It looked like it was all he could do to climb the stairs. And they, there is no reason for Jericho to be taking this path. If he's really trying to get away from somebody, he walked into the arena, into the ring. So if you were trying to get away from this fucking guy,
Starting point is 02:00:43 what, And so they go all the way to the ring and then Jericho's trying to beg off, say, well, I would sign the contract, but I don't have a pen. And then Eiji brings the pen out of his pocket and makes Jericho sign it. And at this point,
Starting point is 02:01:03 here comes Big Bill and Brian Keith, and they jump, Eiji and start kicking a shit out of him. And the fans are just staring. There's no, heat, there's no emotion, there's no movement, there's no noise, they're just staring at what's going on, and then here
Starting point is 02:01:22 comes brisco and Rocky. Because unlike the mascot, he doesn't mind getting a help in hand when three people are kicking a shit out of him. So they run the heels off with the, you know, boom, boom, boom. And then Ishi gives Jericho a brainbuster
Starting point is 02:01:42 and Jericho lays there motionless and Ishi signs the contract for the match they're going to have where now there's another heel just laying there on his fucking back and as you said just the oddness of
Starting point is 02:02:00 Jericho had another idea oh wouldn't it be cool if no now we found out no it wouldn't it would look stupid but what is that's his whole thing that's his whole thing Spinal tap meets stupid. And there's,
Starting point is 02:02:15 the only thing is, at least he's in a no-win situation because there's no way that you're going to make Chris Jericho versus this, again, baked potato with arms and legs, any kind of attraction. So, you're making fun out of it, maybe the, or fun of it, maybe the only recourse.
Starting point is 02:02:38 But on this show, it was just, again, another odd strange thing. There was still much, much more to go. Yes, there was. Jamie Hater can't get a whole promo out because old Julia Hart now Julia Hart has, she's going to change her name to Julia Tarantino. Or who was it that did from Dust Till Dawn?
Starting point is 02:03:09 Oh, Robert Rodriguez. There you go, Julia Rodriguez. She could be married to Rochelle, Rochelle. Well, he was a really, I mean, he's still alive. He's a really talented guy. Well, it's not... Well, maybe... The two things.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Okay, so... She's in a video. The videos keep cutting Jamie Hader off now to the point where Jamie Hader is saying, I don't know why that she keeps cutting me off. Well, she's not really cutting you off. The production truck is cutting you off because... Judy Hart... But she may be able to make these videos,
Starting point is 02:03:40 but she can't just goddamn broadcast them on turn of broadcasting. unless the production truck is making that move there. So I would start there in the truck as to find out. And sure enough, the promo is cut off by Julia Hart. Now she's either going to film school or somebody close to or is, and it's a low-budget horror movie type of thing. She was shooting arrows into herself on the beach and on a football field. she was dead of arrow poisoning
Starting point is 02:04:16 in a cheerleader outfit on a football field and she's also wearing her hat. And by the way, when she is firing her arrows from her bow and arrow, her grip is wrong. Her cheerleading uniform, like when she was with the varsity blondes? Well, she was on a football field in a cheerleading uniform with arrows sticking out of her chest in a very brief scene because she was shooting them
Starting point is 02:04:40 and they're red arrows, but they're landing in her own heart. She was shot several times with these arrows that she was shooting. And did I mention her fucking string grip is completely ass back. It's totally wrong. So she couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. She's gripping the string in between her index finger and her middle fuck you finger. And that'll just throw you completely off. what's going on with this?
Starting point is 02:05:17 What is this? Is this another movie that you recognize? Last week you recognized they were taken off on some other movie or something. I think the roster feels inspired and they have someone willing to finance all of their two and a half to three minute dreams. You know, I told Stace, I said the best video we ever did was the Leviathan video. When she was managing Leviathan, it cost us. $150 and it actually got the guy over. Of course, we didn't license the music, but blow me, Godsmack,
Starting point is 02:05:58 the Statue of Limitations has run out. These people are spending thousands of dollars confused people. Are you ready for our main event, Brian? Oh, boy. They presented as a main event in front of this building of very few people with a morgue-like atmosphere. It's the first time I've ever seen a wrestling match held in a sensory deprivation chamber. Pockets versus Wheeler useless.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Two skinny, bland guys with no charisma doing wrestling moves with no reaction from a crowd that doesn't care. And that's the paying crowd. The people had paid to go see it were unimpressed. What about some poor fucking bloke, some chap? watch it on television go, I... Seriously? Seriously? What are these two children?
Starting point is 02:07:01 Eh... What about the guy who redeems a free ticket and says, let me go check this out? I'll take my kid or something. Or I'll go with my buddies. And then he thinks this kid got away from him and jumped in the ring. Junior, get the hell out of there. Oh, I'm sorry, sir.
Starting point is 02:07:18 That wasn't junior, sir. That's our continental champion. This is what they're trying to compete with the WWE with. This is what they're trying to do the main event of the Go Home TV for pay-per-view. And they rang the bell with 12 minutes left in regulation, and you know they were going over. So they actually tried to have a match. And, you know, yes, you can train chimpanzees.
Starting point is 02:07:50 to do a variety of moves. And just the blandness and the nothingness of, I mean, and Wheeler's a ball of fire. Wheeler's goddamn MJF next to the other goof, but it was an embarrassing use of national television with two trained chimps having to pretend wrestling match. Kicking out a tombstone pile draft. they made a pile driver
Starting point is 02:08:22 fucking deadly in two weeks over in the WWE land by having Randy Orton a fucking star and a full-grown adult man sell a shitty-looking pile driver and these guys are kicking out of tombstone pile drivers and their necks are the size of a stack of dimes. And did you see at one point
Starting point is 02:08:42 when Wheeler on the floor gave pockets a brainbuster on the barricade in front of the front row fans and that got kind of a rise at him because it was dangerous as fuck and there's no way to let this fucking clown try to do it to me he's not fucking strong enough to pick me up
Starting point is 02:09:00 to begin with and Tony Shibani at that point brought up you know I find it interesting that Orange Cassidy is wearing black jeans tonight he just got brainbustered on a metal fucking railing and you're talking about the color of his pants I wish I could attribute all this to drugs,
Starting point is 02:09:24 but I don't think they're having the fun of the drugs. I just noticed that dead man over there, he's wearing black pants. Yes, he just, well, you can't see probably because of the blood that's soaking them, but they were, before they got stained with his carotid artery being cut. And then finally, Wheeler brings a chair in. right in front of the referee who does nothing about it and swings at pockets and pockets ducks and rolls him up one, two, three.
Starting point is 02:09:53 So a tombstone pile driver was not a finish, but a fucking roll up after the referee should have disqualified the thing to begin with because they can't figure out other ways to do it that makes sense. Your thoughts on the match before we go to the afterbirth? It was one of those,
Starting point is 02:10:12 it was like watching one of those awkward women's matches that goes on too long because the crowd was dead. They weren't reacting to anything. A lot of people pointing the finger at the fact that Wheeler Yuda was in the main event. And other than John Moxley and Brian Danielson and Tony Kahn, no one else has really seemed to take the Wheeler Uda
Starting point is 02:10:32 at that kind of level. But I think it's a two-way street here. I think Orange Cassidy gets a lot of the blame too. Orange Cassidy, the booking of Orange Cassidy, the use of Orange Cassidy. Five years in, no one gives a fuck of his pants are black it's the same guy
Starting point is 02:10:50 who doesn't give a fuck and we don't give a fuck you know what Tony was saying it's like he he's never worn black pants before it's like you know Harold always wants a second cup of coffee and then actually what's
Starting point is 02:11:05 who one of the goofballs on color Mac Daddy was on color too because the kidnapping was pre-tape yeah they didn't fire him after that I was like, yeah, they didn't fire him after he participated in a goddamn, you know. But he had to bring the commentary back to the, by the way, he got that brain buster. But then Sockface had answered it by, well, I have seen him wear black pants on a few occasions, Tony. Like, oh, I've got to be the expert.
Starting point is 02:11:34 And even though nobody's going to know the difference, I have to correct you that, yes, he has worn him a few times. Because of course, Sockface is paying attention to the color of another guy's fucking pants. And then Mac Daddy brought him back to common sense. Maybe Mac Daddy's allowed to continue on commentary after the kidnapping because with Daniels had gone, the disciplinary committee has been broken up. True. Because since, you know, I wonder how did they discipline the people that broke the head of the disciplinary committee's neck?
Starting point is 02:12:05 So anyway, the afterbirth. Here comes pack and he levels pockets. And then here comes the plumber and company. And they start kicking a shit. Remember, he told them. He told Briscoe, he told Rocky, he told all of his friends, don't come help me. Moxley, five on one, you better bring it, boy, do whatever you're going to do.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Well, so they did. They beat the shit out of him. Marina Schaefer came in with duct tape. They stuck his hands in his pockets and duct taped his hands in his pockets. And I was cheering for him by this point. See, you can, Moxley could even make me a fan of it, but they beat him up. with his hands taped and Moxley was, I guess he's been watching Dana White, he was open hands slapping him, but the announcers were calling him knockout punches,
Starting point is 02:12:58 but he was slapping him. And pockets at one point fought back with a couple of fake shin kicks, his fake shin kick deal. That's how he's fighting back from these five-passes. So Moxley leveled him. and then they walked out and went to the back of the arena leaving him laying there and then here came Briscoe and Kyle and Rocky and he's ye
Starting point is 02:13:24 and they cut him loose because he asked for you now don't come out to help you okay motherfucker how'd that work out for you dumb son of a bitch and the heels are still in the back of the arena where there's no light and they're trying to get an artistic shot
Starting point is 02:13:42 of Moxley's boba's droopy face over the shoulder to see pockets in the ring but there's no light back there and they can't light the building in the back because there's no people in it so to show that he is still defiant and he knows, oh what a defiant man
Starting point is 02:14:03 pocket stands up, puts his sunglasses on and puts his hands back in his pockets while standing in the ring looking at the people that just kicked the shit out of him and not making a move to do any goddamn thing about it. What a baby face. And that's the way they went off the air for the pay-per-view. So I guess now
Starting point is 02:14:25 we know that he's told his friends not to help him. So all five of these people are just going to kick the shit out of him. This time, and we're going to pay $50 to see it. And it's all fake anyway because this whole thing is silly. And do you think is the entire day? W.W.E. Office and roster and TKO organization blowing snot laughing at these idiots right now that are spending their money on this shit? You know, I think WWE will always be WWE and they'll always see any competition as something that's either under their thumb or something that needs to be put under. But it's impossible to watch this show and think that anyone has their shit together.
Starting point is 02:15:09 I was about to say anyone in senior management. There is no senior management. There is no senior management. You know, whatever you want to say by Vince being a dirty fucking pervert. And he is. In terms of a businessman, he was, you know, it really was the buck stops here with Vince. And my fucking cushion in my chair is making noise. Oh, heaven. You got a whoopee cushion. Yeah, with Vince, it was the buck stops here.
Starting point is 02:15:35 And with Tony, it's the bucks don't work. That's the problem. And Tony doesn't recognize that he's not good at this. and Tony doesn't have anyone to turn to and the people who know better will never tell Tony, Tony, you shouldn't do this. Instead, it's, well, maybe if you try this, or maybe if you do this,
Starting point is 02:15:53 if you try this differently, no, it's everything, it's him. He can't do it. And Moxley, imagine if you were the head of anything and John Moxley wants creative control and you see what it is. Oh, good Lord, well, I haven't seen what it is yet. I don't know what the fuck this is.
Starting point is 02:16:14 Well, that is AEW Dynamite. And that was the go-home show for the pay-per-view, and also, was it the question is, I guess, was it the go-home show for the people that were watching it? Did they have to move? Well, I was going to say, Jim, before we get to the ratings, you know, full gear is coming up. We just previewed it.
Starting point is 02:16:34 And it's one of those rare AEW pay-per-views not named after a casino or some sort of event at a casino. and we know a casino that we can send everyone to virtually. Well, we virtually can, and I thought you'd virtually never ask, because the casino, folks, if you want to go to a casino, sometimes you have to leave your home, you have to get in a plane, you have to go to Las Vegas or Atlantic City, if you want to experience a casino with all the wonders the casino has to offer.
Starting point is 02:17:08 Of course, now we can send you to a casino that doesn't have, wall-to-wall hookers and a cheap buffet that you can get toomey, but you don't have to leave your home and you don't have to get on an airplane. You can go to a casino right in the privacy and comfort of your own home with Draft King's Casino. Because it's holidays on the house at Draft King's Casino where it's the wonderful time of the year where that's what you think about. Thanksgiving, Christmas, that time of year. You don't have to think about loved ones and family and togetherness and sitting around the old Yule log.
Starting point is 02:17:49 You need to think about betting some money on some sports and winning some money and having some hookers and drinking some alcohol and engaging in wild partying activity while being in the comfort of your own home. And the Draft Kings Casino is right there for you. And they are welcoming new players just to get you hooked on this new thing called Casino. a $100 casino credit instantly with just a $10 wager. So they're basing it, Brian, 10 times. Think of the greatest casino you've ever been in, and then think of 10 times that. 10 times the jackpots, 10 times the hookers,
Starting point is 02:18:31 10 times the Sammy Davis Jr. impersonators. Again, there are no hookers or entertainment involved with this. There is just good old-fashioned casinoing. Well, if you bet $100 or if you bet $10, you get $100 instantly in casino credits. If you bet $100, then Frank Sinatra Jr. will come and sing, come fly with me to you personally. Didn't he die a few years ago? Over on the corner. Well, no, he's still got a contract with him, so they're enforcing it.
Starting point is 02:19:01 They're tough out there at Draft Kings. There's no entertainment supplied as part of any, there's no deal. I mean, I don't even know what you're off than people. Well, no, I'll tell you what. Draft Kings told Frank Jr. He said, no, you can die all you want to, but your old man died in a few lounges too, but you're going to have to fulfill your contract.
Starting point is 02:19:18 So if you bet $1,000 at Draft Kings, then that means that you get Frank Sinatra Jr. for a song. Or not. Or not. Let's just say, or not. Well, when he's knocking on your door, think what you're going to feel like, he's saying, it's me. It's a zombie?
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Starting point is 02:21:15 dot com slash promos well i'm glad he cleared that up but what about the hooker there is no hooker is there a dead hooker in the bed there's a dead hooker in the bed the hell was that that's my favorite scene in four rooms oh that again yeah a dead hoer in the bed according to tim roth all right well the crown is yours with draft kings once again certainly is the draft king casino promo code one more time jim what's the code cornet well jim let's find out i guess if the gamble paid off or at least this week the ratings for a ew dynamite well i'm i'm anxious to hear but they've been except for that a couple weeks ago when they got spanked by nxte they've been in the
Starting point is 02:22:04 six hundreds for the past i don't have what A couple of months now, down from 8 to 7, now to 6. Where are they at this week? This week, AEW Dynamite on TBS Wednesday, November 20th, 2024, 8 to 10.06 p.m. On average, A.W. Dynamite watched by 640,000 viewers. Ooh, okay, well, not entirely unexpected because it's about what they've been doing, but probably not the best thing they could hear before the pay-per-viewed. It is down 4% from last week's 666, the Mark of the Devil episode.
Starting point is 02:22:42 And it is up 4% on the trailing, I should say, four-week average of 614. Jeez. Let's go to the quarterly breakdown. These were compiled by WrestleManiaomics. Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m., the November rain video, and the start of the eight-man tag with Mark Davis. Powerhouse Hobbs, Rickshay, and Will Osprey versus Don Callis' family, but picture and picture,
Starting point is 02:23:15 747,000 viewers. Okay, so, again, they've even, what happened to that big lead-in they used to get? Maybe the new Nielsen Holmes didn't like Big Bang Theory as much. Serious. That's entirely possible, because I don't like Big Bang Theory, so that's a show. But anyway, go ahead. Quarter 2, 8.15, 8.30 p.m. Every time I say that someone jumps in,
Starting point is 02:23:40 no, Brian, it doesn't suck, you suck. No, that show sucks. And you suck. A lot of suckage going on on that show. Quarter 2, 8.15 to 8.30 p.m. The continuation of the eight-man tag match. The Death Riders and Darby Allen backstage promo. An ad break.
Starting point is 02:23:59 The Hurt Syndicate Swerve Strickland angle in the parking lot, I believe. 671,000 viewers. Actually, okay, now we're getting more down to the meat of the matter. So 4729, that's 76, 76,000 people left the big TV show. 671,000 were left. How many of them will leave before we get to the end? Oh, boy, it's going to end up really shit. Well, we got a quarter three, 830, 3.
Starting point is 02:24:34 30 to 8.45 p.m. The Adam Cole Kyle O'Reilly live promo. The conglomerations backstage promo. You're trying to laugh. I'm trying not to laugh. And the start of Sheeta versus Statlander with picture and picture, 634,000 viewers.
Starting point is 02:24:55 So that's from the top of the program, 113,000 people. We go to quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m. The continuation of Shita versus Statlander. The post match with Mercedes-Money and Camille. The Hertz Syndicate's backstage angle with a Swarbristrictlin look-alike. An ad break. And Bobby Lashley versus Cheeseburger and Joe Keys,
Starting point is 02:25:25 667,000 viewers. Okay, so we can hope that people tuned in to see the Hurt Syndicate because that means that they're getting over in their stars, but then again we can kind of curse that they saw what they saw because
Starting point is 02:25:43 it didn't do the Hurt Seneca any favors. But the top of the hour is coming up and the big assault with the logging chain. What did that do? The big 9 o'clock hour, quarter 5, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The post match of the previous match with the Hurt Syndicate and Prince Nanna and Swir Strickland.
Starting point is 02:26:05 The previous match. Also, the Mariah Mae, Mina Sherikawa tit, Titt backstage promo, or Tits, I should say, multiple tits. As well as to start, O'Claude Ocastiknoli versus Darby Allen with Picture and Picture, 648,000 viewers. Ouch, so they lost at the top of the hour because people had better things to do, I guess.
Starting point is 02:26:31 And now they're not at the low point yet. That was quarter three. But I sense because of the average that we're about to take a trip south. We got a quarter six, nine, fifteen, and nine thirty p.m. Oh, here's something you forgot about. Oh, shit. The continuation of Darby versus Claudio,
Starting point is 02:26:50 private party with AJ and Big Justice. Oh, fuck. I forgot to go back. Remember I said I was going to go back to something, but I was continuing the Hurt Syndicate, I didn't go back to it. Well, let's finish the ratings, and then we'll get your thoughts on that. Well, now, just real quick, since you're right on it,
Starting point is 02:27:08 so the fucking Costco guys are the, it's a fat fucking guy, it is fat fucking son that go boom all the time. Well, let's be nice. It's a kid. Let's, let's be nice about it. Well, but he's putting him on television. And they, they had a scripted interaction where they do their bit and they go boom and no effort was made to explain to anybody
Starting point is 02:27:37 who the fuck they are, what they do, or why they would be on this program and why that this guy is wrestling QT Marshall. So that was the boom. They still didn't tell you. It's like couldn't they show a video of them doing whatever it is the fuck they do? That's my question.
Starting point is 02:28:00 to you? I don't know. Again, I'm not familiar with them. I'm not really big on TikTok, but a lot of people are. And apparently if you're into Costco humor, I'm not really sure what it is.
Starting point is 02:28:12 But then they should show, here's what these people do, which is why they're on our program. But then people would say, you mean that's all you got to do to get on this program? Well, they were in quarter six with their backstage angle,
Starting point is 02:28:26 MJF's promo, an ad break, and AJ and Big Justice's backstage promo they got two seconds yeah well they had a we're coming up and then they had a
Starting point is 02:28:41 we got a big announcement and then they announced it and Roger Strong's ramp promo 630,000 viewers that's not as bad as I thought that that's only another 18,000 now they're at the low there are 117,000 down from the start of the program but Boy, it don't look good for pockets and old Wheeler.
Starting point is 02:29:04 Well, we go now to quarter 7, 9.30 to 9.45 p.m. Daniel Garcia and Jack Perry's backstage angle, as it's listed here. This is what ran them off. Backstage angle. That was backstage angle. It was back in a goddamn warehouse in a field somewhere. Chris Jericho and Tomo Hero Ishii's backstage angle. This is what.
Starting point is 02:29:28 ran him off. The conglomeration and the Learning Tree's live angle. This is what ran them off. Followed by an ad break and Jamie Hader's promo. 594,000 viewers. Yep, that's what ran them off. Well, you're maybe a little too confident because let's go to quarter eight. I remind you we have an overrun.
Starting point is 02:29:51 Quarter eight, 9.45 to 10 p.m. The Julia Hart video. Orange Cassidy versus Weirons. Wheeler Yuda, with picture and picture, 549,000 viewers. Oh. Six-minute overrun, the post-match with the Death Riders and the conglomeration, 597,000 viewers. So obviously, I don't think 48,000 people suddenly said, oh my God, it's Pockets and Wheeler.
Starting point is 02:30:23 It was the top of the hour that what was scheduled to go on after them, where we modern familying again that night. I believe that's what I recorded the overrun. Yeah, usually it is. Yeah. So they went from 747 at the start to 549 by the time that the people were fed up with the whole thing. That was 198.
Starting point is 02:30:49 200,000 people out of 747,000. Jesus Christ, that's another 28 to 30% isn't it? it's a lot it's a without making you get your calculator out but Jesus what did they expect and that's 549,000 for that
Starting point is 02:31:13 sloppy rotten main event was not only the low part of the show but by 50,000 almost 50,000 fucking people well maybe they'll rematch it next week now that people have had to taste of it, it'll be hotter.
Starting point is 02:31:33 Well, we will see what next week brings, but on the topic of next week or at least next episode, next Jim Cornett Experience, one of the topics we'll discuss will be AED schedule that they've announced so far for 2025, stepping in the right direction, announcing dates in advance, who would ever thunk? And in smaller buildings. And in smaller buildings. So we'll talk about that, as well as Linda McMahon and the bumpy road she's on right now. But Jim, before we wrap things up, this is the drive-thru.
Starting point is 02:32:04 How about some questions? I would love some questions. What do you want to know? Well, Jim, let's get to some questions. These were sent into the Call to Cornette Facebook group. This one was sent by Pedro Sam Brano. Why did Vince not call Rick Flair the Nature Boy during his original run in WWF?
Starting point is 02:32:26 You know, that's a good question, and I don't know if anybody has asked that specific thing before. Um, do you think knowing Vince as we know him now, was he still wrapped up? Well, people don't think it's Rogers. No, it can't be that. I don't, maybe they couldn't trademark it. They weren't trademarking flare. You know, why did he change the road warrior's name to the Legion of Doom?
Starting point is 02:32:55 Yeah, see, I think it's more like that. You know, just to make something less of, what the people had done and established before and more of his own thing is is really the only thing because I I hadn't even noticed it to be honest because I never paid attention to look for it. All right, so that's a non-answer, I guess we could tell. Well, I mean, what else are, what else am I supposed to say? There's a goddamn truck in my driveway.
Starting point is 02:33:23 Uh-oh. They're delivering something. Wait, I ain't got my glasses on. Hold on. This is devolving. All right, it's Amazon. They could be delivering anything. All right.
Starting point is 02:33:35 Well, Jim, let's get to another question here. I don't know. I have no idea why he'd call him Nature Boy. What are you going to? You know, brow beat me over it? How much of that stuff did you watch when Flair first went there in 91? Obviously, you were talking to him about, he knew what you were up to. Yes.
Starting point is 02:33:51 And you were up to things so you were busy. Well, I was watching. I was watching stuff that he was on and involved with and the TV and the whole belt saga and everything. So yes, I did see that. but I just didn't notice the nature boy thing. And did you think Vince blew it with the booking of Hogan v. Flair? Huge, huge, huge. Because, you know, putting them in the houses is something that he normally did.
Starting point is 02:34:20 Michaels worked with Vader before they did SummerSlam because he would have guys get, you know, accustomed to each other. but the thing is that was people it was already in his company this was a special case that he again he never he understood i think the magnitude of flare but he didn't ever give the crocket promotions or wcw any magnitude credit for magnitude so he didn't understand what he had he felt like that he had to make flare one of the stars rather than being an outsider that's why it didn't last long. And then when they sued over the belt and everything,
Starting point is 02:35:01 he's like, but when they put Flair and Hogan in the houses, the people that wanted to see the dream match all bought to see the dream match. And then, you know, it should have been built to a WrestleMania, but Vince didn't think that WCW was that important.
Starting point is 02:35:26 You know, I went to the, first match at Madison Square Garden, where they did a false finish where Flair won the belt, or Flair beat Hogan? Got a big pop? You have to wonder how that affected things, too, the fact that Flair was coming in as a heel outsider, but if you knew who he was and a lot of people did, you might cheer for him against Corny Hulk Hogan in late 91. Oh, God, I spent New York, Philly, Baltimore, Chicago.
Starting point is 02:35:55 Yeah, there were a lot of people that would have wanted to see Flair win at that point in those cities. Jim, another question. This one was sent in the cult of cornet Facebook group by Evan Christian. Why did TNA switch from a traditional ring to the hexagonal? Is that how you say that? Hexagonal. Hexagonal. The hexagonal one during Jim's tenure.
Starting point is 02:36:20 As opposed to a parallelogram. Well, why did they switch during your time? tenure never understood why they thought it was a good idea. But they didn't switch, they already had it when I got there. They had started with it, didn't they? Or did they? I don't think they started with it. They didn't start with it in Nashville when they were doing pay-per-view only,
Starting point is 02:36:41 but then they started before they got on television, I think. But point being, it was, well, I was just going to say they stole it from AAA, right? was that they stole it from Mexico but who was to AAA was doing it in Mexico yeah and Jeff was going down there at that point and now they you know they were using some of the talent and they thought it would differentiate themselves instantly visually from the WWE and and what they were doing and just give it a new updated look and truthfully I I didn't hate how it looked but it was it was very awkward it was it was harder on the boys because with six shorter sets of ropes to hit there wasn't as much given the ropes so it was great for springboard stuff and for the smaller guys to jump on them
Starting point is 02:37:42 but god damn it was like run trying to hit the ropes you're hitting a fucking wall and conversely because of the way it had to be constructed you couldn't just have a long uninterrupted you know one by 12 or two by 12 board it had to be constructed so you didn't have just the
Starting point is 02:38:03 square and the perillagram and the rectangle and all the stuff we were talking about earlier so it was harder it wasn't as good to bump in as a four-sided ring and a lot of times you know when guys would first get there it took a while to get used to it
Starting point is 02:38:21 because the, especially unless you were a smaller guy, the distance you could run to go across the ring was shorter than what most guys were used to and try to figure out how to take a turn buckle. And it just, it, it was, it didn't make enough difference just being different to justify trying to work around the whole goddamn thing, to me. But it was different.
Starting point is 02:38:49 Were there any big fans of it? amongst the boys or the fans? Amongst the boys? Because, I mean, you're really kind of looking at it from, you're telling me the company perspective. As a fan, I always thought it looked kind of cool, but in practice it kind of, I don't know, I kind of got sick of it.
Starting point is 02:39:05 It made the whole company seem like a gimmick. Yeah, well, I don't know that any of the boys were just, oh, I'd never want to work in another kind of ring, you know, about it either. I think it was like, well, this is what we got. So, you know, especially the creative guys, we'll try to use it in some way. But, yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:22 A vote probably, a popular vote probably would have gone back to a regular ring. I remember reading some quotes from some guys, maybe Harley Race or a few others that, like, you know, wrestling should only be four corners or whatever it is. Do you agree with that? Do you think, like, they should never, the ring is the ring and that's it? Should it be anything that changes or advances? Well, but, again, they were trying to advance with that. But that was advancement for the sake of just being different rather than it making the matter. is better or the experience of working in the ring safer or more pleasurable?
Starting point is 02:39:58 What was the benefit? The only benefit was if that difference had led to a bunch of people checking out the show and what they were doing and getting hooked on the talent or whatever. And that didn't happen. So why do it? Why change the basketball court or the football field? how do you really change that to where that it it's an advancement or just changing something as a gimmick to to change it what do you think of bringing back the hexagon ring as a gimmick as an annual thing or as some
Starting point is 02:40:38 kind of i don't know what you can really build to it you know this man hates shapes let's put him in that's the thing why would it be brought back for what purpose well i can't beat him in just a four-sided ring but if I get that son of a bitch in a ring with six sides he's mine I mean what advantage would it give anybody or what would you do to a ring that would need six sides
Starting point is 02:41:03 in order to have that gimmick match or whatever I mean come back to me with more particulars all right Jim another question sent in via the cult of Cornette Facebook group this one was sent in by Tony Tony Khan
Starting point is 02:41:20 Wenkilwitz Winkowitz? Winklewits? I hope I'm getting that correct, Tony. It says he was an all-star contributor, whatever that entails. Are the bloodline the greatest faction in history? Only comparison is
Starting point is 02:41:35 four horsemen for longevity and different members. For longevity? If not, where would you rank them as a faction and as a storyline in history? Well, I don't have the date right in front of me when the bloodline started,
Starting point is 02:41:50 but remember the horseman was only three years. The original run, yeah. Well, yeah, and that's the only one that you can really count. But, I mean, again, greatest faction for drawing money, the bloodline, yes, for actually, you know, in-ring talent, I know, come on. And I'm not knocking, you know, the bloodline either set for in-ring talent, but when you had Rick Flayette. Tully Blanchard, Arne Anderson, and Barry Windham on one side. And, you know, there you've taken up four of the top ten in-ring performer places in the business in one group.
Starting point is 02:42:33 But greatest in terms of drawing money and the story and the interest they've gotten in the story, I think you can say the blood, I mean, you know, other factions, the NWO, you know, it wasn't really the same as this. This wasn't a group of really individual wrestlers that suddenly came together to form a super group like goddamn bread or something, right?
Starting point is 02:43:04 This was an actual group of family members that found their way together twice. So again, it's not really a faction, more of it. Maybe that's why a part of it is doing so well because it's more of its own unique thing. This is more of a family thing with the, you know, four of the Von Erics had ever gotten together,
Starting point is 02:43:29 or, which they did, I guess, Fritz, Kevin, Kerry, and David, or,
Starting point is 02:43:35 you know, something like that, than a faction of heels who were established as singles before they came together as a group. What do you think of that? I think it's kind of reminiscent of things in world class in terms of,
Starting point is 02:43:49 It's slow moving. There's a lot of people involved. It's always exciting, but it doesn't always seem to go someplace. But when you look back, it's like, oh, yeah, this happened, then this happened, then this happened. In terms of money, most successful faction in history, just in terms of the storyline around it. Yeah. It's not outrageous. It's not a greatest, depending on what you're talking about, but it's in the conversation in all aspects.
Starting point is 02:44:18 Jim, this question was sent in via the cult of Cornet Facebook group by Rory Melberg. Oh, come on! Leave Rory alone. That is, that cannot be a real human being's name. Well, he has a real question here. When was the tag rope introduced? Ooh. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:44:43 Now, see, this is very interesting because when I first started watching wrestling, and had only seen the local TV here in the Tennessee territory, they didn't have tag ropes. Now, on Bruiser's show in Indianapolis, they had tag ropes, but they never used them. But that was a thing that some territories adopted, and some didn't. The theory behind it is that in tag team matches,
Starting point is 02:45:14 the legal tag for a tag, team in a tag team match has always been the guy on the apron has to have both feet on the apron and his hand either holding the tag rope or if there was no rope his hand has to be on the top turnbuckle he's got to be able to touch the turnbuckle and the tag is made hand to hand over the top rope not in between the second third or whatever but over the top rope and that's the rules and that's why I shit all over these guys that's tag their toes and backslap each other, whatever. But the tag rope
Starting point is 02:45:54 would have been invented right after tag team wrestling, which would have been, depending on the part of the country, what mid to late 30s, early 40s. The first tag team match in Louisville was in 1943, but Tennessee beat it by four or five years. And it just depended on whether the, the territory and the promoter
Starting point is 02:46:19 wanted to make it really legal, follow the rules to the letter or didn't give a shit because they'd have to remember to tie a rope to the turnbuckle. Just put your hand on a fucking turnbuckle. I can hear them now.
Starting point is 02:46:34 But in the Northeast, the tag rope was a big deal. And they had bigger rings. And they had more, you know, because the thing about it was when you're holding one of those tag ropes, in those big rings if they had a two or three foot rope and you were a tall guy
Starting point is 02:46:51 you could be past halfway down the apron still have the rope and stretch your arm out and in the south where they used the smaller rings because the buildings were smaller if you had your hand on a turnbuckle then the baby face
Starting point is 02:47:08 could really milk and work for a tag and the heel could keep him away and it wasn't like his partner could reach all the way across the goddamn ring but as far as where it originated and exactly when that's probably been lost to time. Do you like the tag rope as a tool for the heels to choke the baby faces?
Starting point is 02:47:29 Well, yes, that's another thing you can do with it when you get the guy to corner wrap the tag rope around the guy's neck and other people will be screaming at the referee, blah, blah, blah. Or whatever the case. I mean, you know you use what you got. All right, Jim, our next question sent via the Colta Cornette Facebook group was sent in by Cody Cantrell. Now, wait a minute, did Ken and Lisa have a spawn?
Starting point is 02:47:54 Well, I don't know about that, but I think this is a very interesting question. Jim, do you think the Marine that beat up Sean Michaels is aware of his place in wrestling history? That's never been asked before. That's very interesting. Does the Marine who beat up Sean Michaels know who he beat up? Well, he knows who he beat up, because there were, police reports and
Starting point is 02:48:18 you know activity about it and part of the bone of contention was that well there's these fucking wrestlers coming into this goddamn local bar from out of town these big shots and this fucking little weasel with the long hair said
Starting point is 02:48:34 or said whatever about my girlfriend or the girl working there or whatever the original conflict started over so he knows he beat up a big time WWF guy but now the question is and this is a good one
Starting point is 02:48:50 has he kept up with it in the almost 30 years afterwards that people are still talking about it and talking about him and debating because some people still think it was really was nine Marines no it was one Marine
Starting point is 02:49:05 with a bunch of friends standing back and watched him because Michael's was fucking soused anyway and couldn't defend himself to begin with and would have got to shit kick out of him by this Marine if he was stone cold sober to begin with. And as I mentioned, Davy Boy couldn't help because he was in the backseat of a two-door car
Starting point is 02:49:28 and he was trapped because Davy was in no condition to drive and Michaels was in the past your seat in the front. And who was it, Waltman? I believe so. I believe so. So here's how bad of shape they were in, poor Sean Waltman was a designated driver. and Davy couldn't get out of the back seat leaning the seat up and trying to get out of the door
Starting point is 02:49:48 when they pulled Michaels out and kicked shit out of him so you know that yes it was the one Marine he did know that he beat up Sean Michaels and that Sean Michaels was a WWF guy but as to whether he's kept up afterwards to where it's still a
Starting point is 02:50:07 subject of conversation and people still talk about him and he's been lauded like that on all these documentaries or whatever, that's a good question. You know, one of these investigative types, there was police reports that his name is out there on record, they ought to track him down and say,
Starting point is 02:50:30 hey, on pay-per-view for charity, you want a rematch? What do you think? You think when he gets together at the reunion? He's like, yeah, I did that to his eye. was me No he's a Marine I'm sure he'd be an upstanding fellow
Starting point is 02:50:45 It wouldn't lie And everybody knows Michael's was cross out beforehand Was he? He was starting to be It was leaning in that direction See I never noticed it until it was just like Bam there it is It was leaning that way
Starting point is 02:50:58 Huh It was starting to drift All right well Jim Another question sent in by the Colta Cornette Facebook group This one sent in by Kevin Smith in the territory days, which would be considered worse, kicking out at one or kicking out just as the three count is made? I guess a wrestler going off script or just trying to keep themselves over?
Starting point is 02:51:30 I'm not sure what he's saying. Well, no, okay. Well, I understand what he's kind of going for, which is more disrespectful in terms of some guys when they've got to do the job, they're going to kick out right at three just to not stay down any longer than necessary. You feel me what I'm saying? Hogan did that to the Ultimate Warrior at WrestleMania 6. And then kicking out at 1
Starting point is 02:51:51 is what a lot of these dim bulbs have done lately on these big moves after they've already been covered for two counts. It's completely ass backwards, but then suddenly they get a big move and they kick out at 1 to show their fighting spirit or whatever. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:52:06 That's just... The point is there's a point. place for both that would be called for. Neither of those things are disrespectful if they're in the finish agreed to by the participants beforehand and called for by either them or the booker leaving them up to their devices or the booker giving them the finish. You would kick out at one
Starting point is 02:52:31 earlier in the match when you know the process is just beginning and oh you got a vicious slam applied there, boom, but he only got a one count so that then you've got a place to go when they start getting two counts. And they might build something with you're going to hit him this time and get a one count and this time and get a two count and the next time you hit him with it, it's going to be almost a three. And that's the story that we're telling it, whatever.
Starting point is 02:53:01 And then there's also, I remember hearing this in a lot of finishes from the time I first got to business, you kick out. right at three, when you want to rematch it or you want to save somebody. Let's say you want Brian to beat Jim, but you want it to be a quick one,
Starting point is 02:53:24 and then Jim may pop up and have something to say about it or, you know, there would be a rematch because he, you caught him, caught me unawaresed, whatever. So the Booker would say, kick out right at three, you just barely got it. And we're going to do a bone of contention of this whatever. So there's reasons why both of those things would be called for, but there's also a reason as we
Starting point is 02:53:48 just described how they're abused. When somebody doesn't want to do a job and kicks out where there's, he's putting his own doubt in where it wasn't supposed to be, or where the guy kicks out at one because now the kids think that I guess that's a thing they do in video games after they've had a 45-minute match that guys got 18-2 counts on them and then suddenly they kick out at 1.
Starting point is 02:54:15 That doesn't make any sense. But they can do them. Do you think there's ever a place for, you know, again, a specific time and place, not all the time by anyone, for a baby face who's been taking a real ass-kicking
Starting point is 02:54:31 to kick out at 1 late in the match? Well, again, it's commensurate with what's been done to him. You know, if it's some lackadaisical cover where the guys, you know, the heel is laying over him and flexing with one hand and just being a prick, yeah, then let the baby face kicks out, let him get the fuck off of me, motherfucker. But if it's a goddamn superplex off the top rope on an already worn down opponent and suddenly he only gets a one kid, well, what sense does that make and how is that building anything? All right. Well, our next question, Jim, sent via the cult of... according to that Facebook group by Benjamin Barron.
Starting point is 02:55:14 What's Jim's thoughts about... Wait a minute, didn't they make a movie about him? That's Benjamin Button you were thinking of. Oh. What's Jim's thoughts about Jay Uso being the top WWE merch seller? Oh, then that's the end of the question. Okay, well, that...
Starting point is 02:55:31 My thoughts with that are connected to why they're using him in such a position when, God, damn... You know, we've talked about it a million times. his place in the bloodline and it's been integral because he really is a member of the family, but goddamn that sloppy work is killing me. But they've hit on something here. The people like Yeat,
Starting point is 02:55:55 and they're with the entrance, and they like being a part of the whole thing, the waving the hands, the flashing the lights, and the wearing the Yeat shirt. So it doesn't surprise me. It's audience participation, which especially the modern WWE audience is loving, whether they sing the lines in the song
Starting point is 02:56:16 or sing the notes in the song or do the chance at the right time or yeat. They're loving getting involved in this. So I'm not surprised he's... Because, again, he also, he's pretty fresh. Because he hadn't been a baby face that featured on top as a single that incredibly was.
Starting point is 02:56:39 long when Cody's been there and they've had multiple items of merchandise for him for three years now. And punk's a huge merchandise seller, but there's been a lot of punk merchandise. So this is new and it's hot, so it's not surprised to me. Do you think it's right for a wrestling company, no matter who it is, to ride the wave of your biggest merch seller, even if it's not someone who works the way you want them to in the ring? Well, I mean, it's not like he's God damn one of these fucking jackoffs
Starting point is 02:57:10 on AEW and he just sucks. He could clean up a few things that wouldn't hurt his yeating or working his gimmick, just the sloppy punches and a little better timing. But he's not like Big Daddy or Bulldog Bob Brown.
Starting point is 02:57:30 So they're not having to hold their nose that badly, but as an in-ring performer, when you stack him up with maybe against Roman Reins or Yokozuna or Fatu slash Rikishi
Starting point is 02:57:47 some of the other members of the family it just doesn't I'm not as thrilled I mean that is why the ultimate warrior got the push he got was he started out selling Hulk Hogan and merch for a while there well he got the push he got because he
Starting point is 02:58:02 looked like that and Vince gave him the opportunity to sell that much merchandise because the only reason you would have signed that son of a bitch is for him to stand there and look at him anyway. Every time he moved, either hurt somebody or it looked like shit. But Vince loved that look. Jim, our next question via the call to Cornett Facebook group was sent in by Brad Spellich.
Starting point is 02:58:26 You're making all this stuff. That is his name. It's right here with his picture. It's his name. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. I don't know if I'm saying it right. You got his social security number? What kind of dossier do you have a?
Starting point is 02:58:36 on these people. All right, well, here's this question. You better be using ExpressVPN there, fella. Brad. Brad. Spellage. Well, you can spell it. Or it could be spellic, but I believe it's spellage.
Starting point is 02:58:48 But what were the last things, excuse me, what were the last things to Midnight, Yoko, or any of Jim's clients would do before going to the ring? Like, before leaving the locker room, would someone say a couple of things to get everyone pumped to go? a what a team coach or captain would do
Starting point is 02:59:09 anything like that any sort of when you have a regular person you're going to the ring with let alone a tag team does anyone just have a you know some bands get together
Starting point is 02:59:19 and pray before they go on stage or you know anything well me and the midnight whether it was Bobby and Dennis or Bobby and Stan were generally the two of us
Starting point is 02:59:32 were brow beating Bobby Eaton about something in a fun frolicy way or, you know, just winding him up or taking the piss out of him or whatever. There was nothing set that we would do. It's not like anybody was, you know, like I've seen the thing where Goldberg would fire himself up by headbutton of lockers and all that shit. And he'd go out of, well, fuck, no wonder he was potatoing people. We're goddamn telling jokes.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Maybe, you know, I'll stick my tennis racket. In between my legs with the handle facing out and walk up behind Bobby so the handle pokes him in the butt. Courtney, what the fuck? And he's got to go out. The question's kind of like, you know, did Yoko Zuna ever just turn around and regularly say, all right, it's bonzai time. You ready? No, he would, you know, okay, here.
Starting point is 03:00:23 Here we go. Or he might say to Fuji, okay, uncle, you first or what, you know, but there was no goddamn routine. There's no, to Dick Murdoch, there was no telling what he might do. He had a thing every time we would go out in the arena and the breezeway in the back, if he would pass a pay phone, he would stick his finger in the fucking change slot and see if anybody left a quarter. But I mean, no, there was no, because we were doing this,
Starting point is 03:00:49 it wasn't like, I mean, that people would stretch and they'd warm up in the locker room or they'd do some calisthenics or Stan would do his, you know, martial arts stances or whatever, just to warm up a little bit while cutting up verbally. but it was not a big, you know, at least for me and anybody that I'd make sure I'd taken my glasses off and put them somewhere I could find when I got back. And that there was no big extravagant thing we went through.
Starting point is 03:01:20 We did it all the fucking time. It wasn't a big goddamn nerve-wracking thing to go out and just have a match. Do you remember anyone like having something? You bet if it was like an annoying thing, like they always said the same thing, before they went out or anything? Well, I remember, Jimmy Valiance warm up when he was, when he was the boogie-woogie man in the mid-80s,
Starting point is 03:01:44 would consist of him walking up to a wall and putting his palms flat on it and doing push-ups while he was standing on the, but he was pushing up on the wall, so it was like a Batman thing climbing the bat rope. If you turned it, and then he would shake his hands at the wrists and do, ha-cha, ha-cha, and that would be his warm-up.
Starting point is 03:02:03 but no one had any kind of big thing like just all right I'm trying to think let's do it like they always said the same thing no example at all ever I guess you know well Terry Garvin would go through four or five ring boys I see that's awful what kind of joke is that to make right now oh come on horrible what a horrible what kind of a joke is what sexual assault is in it's it's all over the cabinet president's cabinet that's a record requirement. What kind of things did you and their clients? Your clients, what did they
Starting point is 03:02:37 say actually to you before going out? I don't know, but let's talk about the pervert. But Jim, thank you for your question, Brad. Yeah, Brad. Jim, another couple questions before we wrap things up. This one via the Colticornet Facebook group was sent by Scott Lawson. What was Jim's go-to for a burger in Johnson
Starting point is 03:03:00 city if Wendy's wasn't available. Was he a Pals guy? You know, I remember Pals. I never stopped there maybe a time or two, but I remember seeing the signs. But actually, there was never really a point in time where Wendy's wasn't available. It was like, oh God, all the Wendy's suddenly closed.
Starting point is 03:03:21 The toomein outbreak, so I've got to go to another place. But in Kingsport, Tennessee, it wasn't burgers but there was a place called Rush Street like from Chicago Rush Street that was like a casual dining like an Applebee's type of thing something like that that had the best fucking pizza and any time I would be in Kingsport if I had the time I would try to go there to get the pizza from Rush Street
Starting point is 03:03:54 and otherwise and And see, remember this is 30 years ago also in East Tennessee? They didn't have the plethora of options that they have now. There was no cookout back then. There was no smash burger. There was no five guys. I think I've told you in Morristown where I lived the only place to get anything, any kind of fast food after 11 o'clock at night was fucking crystal,
Starting point is 03:04:21 which is fate worse than death. So I would actually go hungry rather than patronize that place. but yes the trice at Johnson and Johnson City had what was the name of the place that was when you came when you got off the highway it came through Johnson City right as you went down to turn right to go to Freedom Hall in Johnson City to go to the matches there was a restaurant there was kind of like an Applebee's also on the right-hand side and that's where whenever any of the boys cars would break down Coincidentally, like that time Buddy Landell and Tommy Rich, their car broke down right in front of that restaurant.
Starting point is 03:05:03 And they had to go in and drink for an hour and a half before they could get the car started. But that was a place also that was nice in that time period. All right, Jim, our final question here this week was sent via the CultaCornet Facebook group and people sending questions via email to corny drive-thru at gmail.com. We'll try to get to yours next time. We're going to try to keep getting as many questions as possible on here. Yeah, we're going to get as many questions as we can until we come up with an answer. Jim, this one was sent in by Trent Whitney.
Starting point is 03:05:39 If... Oh, come on. If Madison Square Garden had been built... What? Sorry, I'm sure it's a good question. Hold on. If Madison Square Garden had been built in Kansas City, instead of New York City. Would Harling have been able to capitalize on it?
Starting point is 03:06:07 What? As much as Vince was able to, or would the building have enticed Vern to Kansas City In lieu of Minneapolis? What the fuck? Or even Vince himself. What? We may not be able to end on that question. What I did this.
Starting point is 03:06:29 I'm so sorry to laugh. We may not be able to end on it, but I might finish all over it. Okay, where do I start? No, Vern wouldn't have come to Kansas City because Madison Square Garden was there because they still wouldn't have been able to put fucking 20,000 people in the building in Kansas City for a wrestling match, whatever building it was. Kansas City never drew 20,000 people. It's probably not going to.
Starting point is 03:06:59 and secondly would Vince have come to Kansas it's not about the building it's about your product and the town you're running and yes Madison Square Garden is the world's most famous arena because it's in New York which is one of the world's most famous places and it was one of the biggest arenas there's been four of them but at each point it was one of the biggest arenas in the country
Starting point is 03:07:30 and in a major media market, a lot of shit goes on there. But just because you took Madison Square Garden and put it into fucking downtown Tucson doesn't mean that suddenly 20,000 people are going to start coming to wrestling in Tucson.
Starting point is 03:07:49 Have I articulated that as plainly as I can? Bright, it's not that in Kansas City Kemper Arena holds, I believe, or held it might not be there anymore. But in the 80s, held probably 16,000 people, but they weren't running it out of the fucking Heart of America Wrestling Office with Bulldog Bob Brown and Bob Geigle in charge.
Starting point is 03:08:15 Bob Geigle often said, if I only had Madison Square Garden. If I only had the garden, then I could make Kansas City the hub of wrestling. Oh, my God, it would have been a wrestling war. Vern and Vince if everyone just descended upon Kansas City to get the garden? Run every week. And here's another thing.
Starting point is 03:08:34 You know where the other Madison Square Garden is, don't you? Phoenix, Arizona. Phoenix, Arizona. They have a building named Madison Square Garden and they had wrestling in it. It didn't draw 20,000 people. All right, our final question here this week.
Starting point is 03:08:48 And thank you for sending your question, Trent. Yeah, yeah, now that we've taken all the piss out of you, Trent. Our final question sent via the cultic coordinator Facebook group from Kenneth Burris. I saw Jim at a WWF house show in Connecticut. Oh now wait a minute. It started out like I know who you are and I saw what you did. What did he see me do? I saw Jim at a WWF house show in Connecticut right before the Dudley Boys debut.
Starting point is 03:09:17 Bubba was a dick to a kid outside and I had heard that the office had to tell him he wasn't in ECW anymore. He'll or not, he had to be cool to the fans. Does Jim remember any of this? Also, Jim got his pants ripped off in matches. St. Bernard High School in 1995-96.
Starting point is 03:09:40 Thanks. I was a cult member before we had a title. Coronet for Life. That's very nice. So was he thanking me for having my pants ripped off? Also, Jim got... He says it's not a question. it's a statement.
Starting point is 03:09:54 Also, Jim got his pants ripped off at the matches. I guess those matches, where Bubba was a dick to a fan. I was deep pants so many times in the course of my career that I can't really narrow it down to one. Well, first of all, to answer his first question, I don't remember that.
Starting point is 03:10:11 If I wasn't involved directly in it, I don't know why anybody would have told me if it did happen. And, you know, I would normally say, oh, that's probably bullshit, except there were instances where, you know, if some kid would complain to either one of the agents or Tony Greer or somebody at the building, and then the building guy comes, hey, so-and-so wouldn't give the autograph or whatever. Like happened with the Ultimate Warrior that time, they showed the footage of Vince making him apologize. It's a work. Jim, it's a work. It's a work.
Starting point is 03:10:47 Yeah. So, I'm not saying it could possibly happen, but I don't remember anything about it. as far as that. But at the same point, there could be some element of truth in that also, because I remember Bubba Ray's part of his thing in ECW just cuss nose fans out. They heavily frowned on you using
Starting point is 03:11:09 vulgarities and profane language either in the building in the arena during the matches or outside when you were going to and fro, especially in that era of the WWF, they might have got on him about that and said, hey, this ain't ACW. This ain't ECW, and that ain't going to fly here.
Starting point is 03:11:28 Any of these things are possible. Who were the wrestlers, let's say after the territory period, so 1990 on? Any wrestlers you ever had to deal with who you had a problem where they were kind of, you know, not just healish, but there were problems of that dealing with fans? We had to tell Jimmy Del Rey a couple times because he was trying so hard after he had toiled in obscurity for 15 years and suddenly got a spot. he was trying so hard to be a heel. Jimmy, Jesus Christ, calm down a little bit.
Starting point is 03:11:58 No reason to go too far. And, you know, just every once in a while, especially when a guy would first start getting used and first started getting pushed, especially if he was a heel, he would go as far as he could would do it everything. And then promoter, Booker, whoever would have to rein him in like, Jesus Christ, you know, calm down a little.
Starting point is 03:12:23 little bit. We can't go that far. All right. Well, a boring episode to a boring end, to a boring episode, I should say. And with that, the drive-through is closed. Well, fucking, I can say, and then this son of a bitch came out with a fucking grappling hook, and we had to take him down and chain him to the front of a fucking bread truck and run him through a goddamn barricade. Like, were there just guys you ever heard about that, you know, for no good reason? They would just beat on fans.
Starting point is 03:12:49 Like, you know how the fans always have the story? I was minding my own business and the wrestler attacked me. Were there any instances where that really did happen? No, well, with no provocation, no. With slight provocation every once in a while and with medium provocation, more often than not. But no, none of the boys were ever just going to go out at random and just start wailing on some of the fans
Starting point is 03:13:11 or just they're standing there innocently taking a picture and suddenly the heel starts fucking beating them about the head and face. That, no, that never happened. It was always, well, now what is... What about going off on them? what this guy's talking about with Bubba Ray Dudley and actually that's what was in the whole Beckley court case. It was about everything you said
Starting point is 03:13:30 that a guy in the back too. Well yeah, well but the the cuss out that I gave him was after the throwing of the marker and the punching of him in the face by Stan and all of the physical stuff that went on. That was window dressing. Now Bubba had just gone out, fuck you
Starting point is 03:13:46 and fuck your mother and fuck your fucking whore mother and blah blah blah that may have you know, who knows? hey, you're fat. Well, fuck you're a whore mother. I don't know. But the defense that you mentioned of so many people who have sued or complained or whatever
Starting point is 03:14:04 in a legal situation about the heel wrestlers, yeah, I was mine my own business and he just began striking me for no reason. You always find out the guy was drunk. The guy grabbed a handful of hair. The guy kicked the guy on the shins. The guy came first and tried to fucking punch somebody or whatever. Because I think a lot of the fans today have watched the footage of Bruiser Brody or the Sheik in Japan going through the goddamn, you know, crowd and causing havoc and think that they were doing that.
Starting point is 03:14:40 In America, the people, most of the people might have run from Brody or the Sheik, but somebody would have goddamn stood their ground and you'd have had a lawsuit. They didn't do that in the buildings in America. either of that it was the fight with Sheik and Abbey or whoever threw the building and they were keeping an eye out for each other and then
Starting point is 03:15:01 even in Japan you see nobody's getting knocked out their Terry Funk would run through the crowd and whack people over the head with his chaps right? The chaps that he wore on his
Starting point is 03:15:14 western pants and that didn't do anybody any damage so no I can't can't think of a time where any of the guys just went out in the crowd in any territory anywhere, just went out in the crowd and started wailing on one of the fans for no provocation, didn't get pegged with a battery. Bruce Brothers.
Starting point is 03:15:37 When did they do that? I don't know. My memories of Ron and Don Harris that I just running through the crowd punching fans. Well, no, it was always, well, now, provocation may have been slight. It may have been like, I could have let that go, but fuck it. Now, I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but I can't remember anybody just deciding to do it for people just standing there innocently. But it's always listed in the lawsuit. It's in my Associated Press article from Altoona.
Starting point is 03:16:05 The guy said I was just standing there at the railing, quietly taking pictures when he began striking me over the head with his tennis racket. When in actuality, he had come over the rail and waistlocked Bobby Eaton and Bobby was trying to fucking get him off of him. and I was just assisting in that effort. Well, with that effort, the drive-to is closed. It sucks. I just don't have it in me. I'm in too much pain. Even that. Even that. The experience in a few days,
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