Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 371
Episode Date: December 11, 2024This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite & the best WWE Raw in forever! Plus Jim talks about Ryan Nemeth's complaint against AEW for the handling of his issues with CM Punk, TNA runni...ng LA & NY in 2025, more Effy comments about Tony Khan, ratings, New Jersey drones, and much more! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello again, friends!
And you are our friends.
Not for long.
Some of us, at least our friends, I already lost the plot.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Jim Cornedge Drive-Thru right here.
There we go with the old-fashioned one.
Wherever you find us on this day, it's windy, it's blustery, so is the wrestling talk.
It's fucking cold, Ollie.
I'm your host, the great Brian last.
this and early fucking the show.
I'll be your host
at Great Brian Last
and here he is
Mr. fucking Jim Cornett.
Well, how the fuck are you?
Fuck around and find out.
The bleep special here this week.
Well, I forgot about the clock
because it's, well, it's cold.
It's fornicating cold outside
here in Louisville.
You're supposed to be cold.
You're in New Jersey.
Our average high is supposed to be 50 degrees.
And it was in the teens this morning with an ill wind blowing again.
It made the wind chill around zero, whatever side of the river you were on,
give or take three or four degrees.
And I got my little puppy, you know, the only thing that I liked about my life before
that we added Harley Quinn to our family is I didn't have to go outside on a cold day.
And now I got to get, she's wearing fur.
She don't mind it a bit.
But I understand we got a packed show today.
How come always your show is packed, their pal?
It's the time of the week.
It's the way things happen to have happened during the...
Happened to have happened?
That's right.
Weather for weather.
Only time we'll tell if it stands the test of time.
But normally I'm like, what are we going to talk about on the experience?
You know, there's nobody doing nothing.
And today a lot of people have said a lot of things about a lot of people.
and plus that we had a
fantastic television program
from a very unexpected source
and then we had a
just fucking rotten
television program that we expected from another source
and it's all just happening Brian
it's a packed show and it's your show
that's right it's my show happy to be indoors
happy to be with you on this cold day
the cold weather stopped the drones
Did you hear about this happening up here?
What?
I know you, the e-drones
Is that what people? I see e-drones
people are talking about on the
interwebs. Is that what that is?
That's something else. We had an issue we had.
We've been having an issue. The snow
kind of shut it down, at least for our night, it looked like.
We're all of a sudden,
all over the county
and in the county next door to ours,
giant drones were popping up.
No one knew who was controlling them.
By one report on the news when they interviewed some guy,
he said it was above my car, it was as big as my car.
What?
Now, most drones are not that big, most commercial drones on sale to the public are not that big
or have batteries that could last seem like...
Well, no, I was about to say,
what kind of fucking nine-bolt battery would it take to levitate a fucking car over a tree?
So the night, this is all over the news, I go outside and there they fucking are.
I see him now.
And I'm like, fuck.
And it's nighttime.
So you can't really gauge just like how big everything is or how far up it is.
But they're making turns that, you know, it's not an airplane because there's no airport where it was coming from.
And then all of a sudden it made a sharp turn.
And it's interesting because Trump's golf course, where he spends a lot of time is right over here.
and there's also...
Oh, he's over there now.
And there's also a military base,
not too far in the county here.
So now they've restricted their airspace,
but the FBI is asking the public...
Wait, but now they've restricted their airspace.
They don't know where these giant military-grade drones have come from.
Well, that's what I've...
First of all, now they've...
Now, there was the operative word that I've noticed there,
they've restricted their airspace.
Like, normally you could fly a fucking drone
the size of a Honda Civic around
over the air
over the military base
See I don't know what the rules are because it is kind of a new thing
Like we had a drone to look over the property
Just to see different things here
We weren't like flying
Miles away and zooming in and out
And hovering over people's cars
Or whatever the fuck is happening
So it's pretty scary
Well it's pretty scary because
The explanation from the government
Isn't there's nothing to see here
it's if you guys know anything please tell us what the fuck now wait
who is in charge of of drone monitoring and drone operations there is something that
big you would think there there would need to be either a license required or potentially
of select few places that you would obtain something like that right so suddenly
they're just flying around is it multiple ones you say oh yeah no
there were a couple of reports and again when you see the report and you're like holy shit that
sounds incredible and then like other people back it up you're like whoa well i mean were they
seen like the same one in different places or were they seeing different ones there was someone
who was reported seeing 50 of them in a cluster in a cluster a giant cluster wait a minute god damn
hold on what kind of independence day bullshit are you telling me now that this is not being
broken into i'll look it up they need to be breaking into dr phil or whoever with special news
Bullets, if there's 50
unknown drones,
the size of goddamn cars over New Jersey
and the government doesn't know about them?
I have a brand new story that just went up
on the New York Post website, the headline,
Mystery drones flying over New Jersey
kept helicopter from taking patient to hospital.
Jesus.
College says, and here's some video of,
yeah, that's what I saw.
The mysterious New Jersey drones being investigated by the FBI
recently kept a Medivac helicopter
from transporting a seriously injured patient
to the hospital. It emerged Thursday.
The medical helicopter was flying to an accident
in Branchburg Township in Somerset County
on Tuesday last week,
but was unable to pick up the crash victim
due to the drones hovering in the landing zone.
Two security officers from Raritan Valley Community College
closed roads to secure the crash site
in preparation for the helicopter to land
but the request was canceled
by the local fire captain just before 7 p.m.
due to the hazardous presence of drones.
Here's a quote.
We never found out what the actual drones were.
It's kind of a mystery.
We were asking around about that but nobody knew anything.
It comes after a flurry of other drones.
Asking around, who do you fucking go to S?A., have you seen any giant automobile-sized drones lately?
Steve, is that yours?
Is that yours? No?
The drones have been spotted hovering in groups for hours in the vicinity of the Raritan River on a nightly basis of late.
One parsipani woman claimed she saw up to five of the mysterious aircraft buzzing overhead Sunday.
Yeah, but she's from Parsipony.
It comes after a flurry of other drone sightings over the past two weeks in central New Jersey,
not far from President-elect Donald Trump's Bedminster Golf Course.
See, that's the other interesting thing.
Knowing how he is, and knowing that he monitors the fucking news and everything,
he knows this is happening.
You got to think he's like, holy shit, we got to, what the fuck?
How come no one has any answers to what these drones are?
Well, you would think that, you would.
but think his mind would be blowing up, but it's not, maybe he knows.
Maybe he's the one who knows.
Maybe he's got his own fucking Elon Musk-funded space force trying to keep his whiny ass safe.
The Federal Aviation Administration has issued two temporary flight restrictions over Morris and Somerset County
following multiple reports of unusual aircraft activity in the aerospace over,
Trump National Golf Club Bedminster,
as well as the U.S. Army hub,
Picotini Arsenal,
in nearby Dover, New Jersey.
Wouldn't you think if it's a goddamn army base
that there's a drone up, is it ours?
No, we'll go fucking get it.
They'd have something that would go up there and...
And there you are?
The FAA said it received reports
as far back as November 18th.
The FBI requested the restrictions out of an abundance of caution.
An agency spokesperson said they remain in effect until December 26th.
Wait a minute, an abundance of caution.
What would happen if a Delta fucking 747 or whatever model number they're flying these days
would clip one of these things?
The FBI has also asked witnesses to send in high-resolution photos they've captured
of the questionable flights, that's in quote,
to their office for further review.
It was unclear if the Branchburg patient
was taken to the hospital by ambulance.
We forgot all about him.
Flight's canceled, so we'll give you a voucher
for a day's in, and they got a buffet for breakfast.
No, is that in any way acceptable?
No.
That's the thing.
All of a sudden in the last few days,
the news has been covering it a lot.
little bit here, but then they, I didn't really see them last night with the bad weather,
but this should be like a major, why the fuck are there mysterious drones that the FBI is
asking for help identifying that some are saying is the size of a car and then clusters of 50
flying around the air?
What the fuck?
How come no one has shot one down?
How come no one has sent up their own drone to follow the drone?
That's what I was going to say.
you better be fucking glad you're up in New Jersey's
instead of, if this was in
goddamn Wardburg, Tennessee,
you'd have a bunch of fucking hillbillies
on a roof of a barn just taking wild shots
at these things with their fucking rifles.
And how high are they flying?
That's a hard answer to give
because it's at night usually.
They're only coming out typically.
Oh, they only come out at night.
So you can't tell you...
It's Edgar Winner. He's responsible.
Sometimes it's hard to gauge how high they are.
Well, how high?
It's a plane at first.
That's the thing.
The first time I saw it, I thought it was a plane because in the distance I saw the lights
coming.
And then as I got closer, I'm like, that's no plane.
And then I was like, you know what?
Let me take a step into my garage and just peek my head out so I don't get blown up by
whatever the fuck this is.
Well, if it's no plane and it's either a bird or Superman, one of the other, right?
You've narrowed it down.
But here's the how, if you take a rifle and you shoot it straight.
up any air, how far will the bullet
go up before eventually it comes down?
I hope to find out by the time they let me
out of prison for doing that.
Well, no, that's...
They just take a rifle, I start shooting into the air in this neighborhood.
That's what I'm saying.
In some places, in the south,
you would be having groups of fucking people
on the roofs of barns with their rifles
trying to shoot these fucking, shoot that thing.
And depending on how high that thing is
of what it's made out of it, et cetera,
you'd have a lot of bullets falling back to the ground
at a slight angle, but a tremendous fucking velocity.
Well, now when Swami makes me walk a bit night,
which I resent him for,
I go out there with, I got this industrial, like, powered flashlight.
One night I was on Facebook, just scrolling shit,
I must have mentioned that loud how,
I need a new flashlight.
The next ad I saw was for, like, this super flashlight.
I could see things miles away.
I'm just going to shine it up on the thing.
I get a little clarity
Oh good
You can give them a tractor beam
So the goddamn Venetians
Can suck you up
And fucking put you in their zoo
And breed you
Like a goddamn
Brute mare
Maid in Sokakis
I don't know what it'll say
I just want to know
But yeah that's this
I didn't know if you had seen it
It'd been on the news up here
But I don't know how it's
No we were busy with our factories
Blowing up
We didn't have time for your space invasion
Tell you man
This is World War III
It's all happened
Is it from Earth? Is it terrestrial or non-terrestrial? That's what we got to find out about those drones. I had a drone in my backyard several years ago.
How big? Well, I didn't see it even particularly up close, and I'll explain why, but I would estimate it it looked like it was about the size of a goddamn basketball or maybe a beach ball, something of that nature, with all of it.
things spread out.
But I was looking out in the backyard the other day,
just I'd, not the other day, this was years ago.
I was looking out in the backyard, idly, minding my own business,
and I swear to God, I swear to God, I know he did it, I saw him do it.
It looked like to me out of the corner, my eye like a bird flew almost straight down
from the sky and landed because I saw the thing hit the top of a top of a top of a
tree and rustle the leaves.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that.
Yeah.
And just out of the corner of mine, I'm thinking, well, what the
fuck did that bird die and just fall out of the sky?
And it is, you know, in the back.
So I didn't think, I wasn't going to walk over there to see if I can find a
fucking bird.
But then I looked out about 10 minutes later, and there's some guy walking around in
my backyard.
And that's when I walked out there.
And I said, can I help you?
and come to find out,
he was from the subdivision
or way in the back that they put in.
I believe he's a gentleman
that works for the fire department,
so he can bring his hose over to my backyard anytime.
But he said, well, my son and I, I believe,
he said, we lost our drone.
I said, wait a minute.
I said, about 10 minutes ago,
would it have just fallen out of the sky?
He said, yeah.
I said, come here, I'll show you the tree.
And it's this old maple tree that grows at a real, like a, I don't know, the degrees of angles,
a 45 degree angle or whatever out of the ground and then blah, blah, blah.
And it was something that he could climb up the trunk and get on a limb and get in there
because we saw it mired into the leaves.
And he climbed my tree and got his drone.
It got misdirected.
So if...
My story's better.
well I know your story's better
but this is some drone
that some guy from the fire department
was flying around
in his backyard
that wasn't even bigger in a beach ball
and he couldn't control it
and if it had fallen
on somebody's head
it probably would have left a mark
so now that somebody
is operating
Toyota-sized fucking drones
over here
and this is
populated area.
Well, except people don't want to live around you, but still.
It's just completely insane.
There's no answers to any of this.
Well, call the FAA.
What am I going to say to them?
You're going to say, you're in charge of the air?
That's why they, where the aviation comes in and you're an administration and you're federal.
So I want my airspace restricted over my house.
I don't want any goddamn fucking things falling.
it through my ceiling at night.
Every night I walk Swami and I have like
Orson Wells narrating it in my head.
And it was New Jersey.
That's right. It was New Jersey.
What was the town? God damn it.
Oh, fuck. Hold on. Let me look up.
No, do it the honest way.
Do it the honest way.
It was, oh, God damn it.
I can just hear him saying it.
But I can't come up with it.
Because you've said Morristown, that's all I can think of.
Because I used to live there also.
And now I've got that stuck in my head.
No, see, I never would have gotten this.
Grover's Mill, New Jersey.
Grover's Mill.
I knew it was some, you know, like, as hick sounding of a place as you can put it in New Jersey, right?
Where is this?
Mercer County.
I don't know where this is.
But anyway, that's where apparently, that's where the panic started.
Well, the, goddamn.
Can you imagine if the people of the 1930s had seen these drones over that would have
goddamn been a real pisser, as Captain Lou would have said.
All right, well, as long as you're just being monitored, they're not fully attacking yet.
So should we do the program or what's going on?
Maybe they were coming at me trying to get my Jim Cornett action figures.
Well, you know, that's a...
Because now pretty much the only chance for you to get an action figure.
at this point by Christmas by the time you hear this is to have an alien invasion,
bring it to your door. No, we are still open, ladies and gentlemen, at Jim Cornett.com.
And I'm so tired. I'm so tired. But we are still open for business. But we got a mail.
According to the people who keep track of these things at the post office, it's been announced
we got a mail domestically by December 17th, unless we're,
over-nighting things, which were not,
and we wouldn't charge you for that.
And that means the feather bottom's got to put a label on it.
That means it's got to be packed in the box,
and that means I've got to already have signed it.
So for God, so he's doing a final pickup.
There's one more to go between now and then,
but the final pickup before Christmas is Friday, December 13th.
Well, what a date.
in order for him to do the labels and everything that weekend
and get it out following Monday and Tuesday before the deadline.
But even if we don't come down your chimney for Christmas,
we'd be more than happy to invade your home for a happy new year
and some fine eggnog.
So order now but have low expectations the longer it gets into the month of December.
Boy, what a sales pitch that will.
That's great.
I have signed so many goddamn, you know, my shoulder is out.
I think I'm going to have my AC joint replaced from autographing these, I think,
2,300-something.
See, we're computerized now.
I never used to be able to count it exactly, whatever amount of individual items I have
autographed over the last six weeks or whatever.
So, thank you, one and all of Merry Christmas and your shit's on the way, because we're
caught up.
Thank you.
You've been a wonderful audience.
Jim cornet.com.
Jim, real quick, it's a controversial thing right now on Twitter.
Let me get your thoughts.
Is Gremlins a Christmas classic?
You know, it's been so long since I've seen that movie that I can see the Gremlin's in my head,
and I couldn't tell you what that fucking, when that movie transpired or what individual parts of it were what?
Just to kill that whole...
I'll go back and forth with you on the diehard thing,
but the Gremlin's, I'm in the weeds.
That movie came out 40 years ago.
When was the first time you would have seen it?
Probably the first time that it was on cable in a hotel.
All right, well, the debate continues.
Because 40 years ago, it would have been Christmas time of 1984.
And as you'll recall, I'd gotten busy a year or two before that,
and I didn't see a goddamn movie in a theater between, I'm going to say,
I still had days off in 82 when I first got started.
Between 1983 and, good God, 1990, I would have to go back and look at what movies were released
to figure out if I ever saw a movie in a theater during that time period.
A couple times the midnight and I went to a movie just because we were in a fucking town early
and no reason to check into a hotel for three hours.
And I think that's about it.
What's it like being a heel going to a movie theater?
Do you ever go by yourself or you're always with, you know, you just said the Midnight Express.
You always with someone else?
Well, no, I just never went.
For that period of time, during my tenure as a technically as a wrestling heel, I have been to
movies, but especially during the day and the afternoon in a fucking theater.
Who's good of...
I better walk into this fucking theater with eight people in it,
the sea of Jim Cornett's one of them.
You know, just...
You know, that's...
It's some dedicated teeny boppers, you know?
Well, no, but that's the thing of the story I told it.
I won't launch into that goddamn again, but going to the amusement park and
accidentally running into the rock and roll and people seeing me,
especially when the fucking Ferris wheel...
guy was stuck at the top.
That was broad daylight in Charlotte, North Carolina
when I was on television more than the fucking mayor.
So that was, you know, I tried that once and never,
I lived in a town with like three amusement parks for five years
or seven years and I never went but once.
But I couldn't then.
But an afternoon movie in the dark, you know,
is probably one of the easier things for heels in those days to get away with.
All right, Jim, well, there's no more time in the way since you have no Gremlin thoughts.
Let's get to the many topics and the many things happening as we are recording.
Well, some of these involve Gremlins.
Well, let's start with W.W.E. Raw, which I have to say may have been the best episode I've seen in, as long as I could remember,
there was a lot of stuff on this show that hooked me. It was really good.
Well, that's right. You were saying right before we went on the air, you were trying to, it was the best raw since,
and you couldn't remember when the sense was.
And again, two hours has made a difference at least,
and we've said this even when the show was boring,
which over the past few weeks, we've almost,
I think one week we did say, you know,
fuck it, there's so little interesting we didn't talk about it.
No, I usually tell you, let's please not do rocks.
It's not really that good, but this week it was phenomenal.
Well, and remember then I'd said,
I think it was last week or two,
you think they're cooling this show off,
just so they can, which is a business strategy
in the wrestling business, as we talked about
when we mentioned that.
If you, you can't be hot forever, you can't floor it,
you can't go 100 miles an hour without slowing down
for a curve, whatever.
In the old days, the promoters, the bookers would figure out
a little way to pull it back without just stinking a joint out.
If they had a big show coming up
so they could take another run at that hill and boom, boom, boom, boom.
and peak things.
Makes sense when you were doing this
every week or every two weeks or every month
in the same town year after year.
I said were they cool and raw off
to have the big Netflix
boom, but
truthfully and honestly, they've started
promoting the big Netflix boom,
but they throw a show like this
in and everybody was going, wow!
And they're still selling everything
out, so even if they weren't going to have
a Netflix boom, they have now created an atmosphere where they get the top guys to come out
and talk to each other and do angles, and they fill it up with matches that mostly, eh.
And then every once in a while, when they do a show that everybody likes, it's like, wow,
and it helps business and they're still selling out, but they don't need to do it every week.
it's the exact opposite of the company that is doing it every week to the point where they can't give tickets away in some places because they do it every fucking week all the time and it's lost its meaning so they were in everett washington for raw which i understand is north of seattle i forgot to get my atlas out to see how far north it is but the angel of the winds are
sold out the 64th sellout of the year,
as Joe Pepitone had told us several times in a show.
And by the way, when you...
How can you name something,
the Angel of the Wins Arena?
Well, Kenny Omega was the arena's creative director.
Okay, hold on.
There you go.
What was that?
That was...
laws or something. What was that a cash run? Well, no, that was easier. That was like a thumbs
up. That's money. Okay, now I know for the future. Now I know. See, yeah, when you hit a money
line, there you go. But the angel of the wins, it sounds like a Seals and Croft sponsorship,
you know, but there's the 64 sellout of the year and these people hit the lottery. They actually
got to see one of the very few raws and all kinds of shit took place. But anyway, that's what
I'm saying they've gotten out of where
every once in a while
they could do a fucking show like this and coast
on it.
And the other guys are over there with public
beheadings.
So
they did a Survivor Series package
and then
showed the people arriving
as they have been doing it.
And then when they got to
punk,
the camera followed him
as they've been doing it through the back,
through Gorillo and into
like a most lady
it's clobbering time
see you like it when I hit higher notes
is what you're saying you think
I'm not saying that I don't like any of it
well you said the other day higher notes was more in my
I said Michael Jackson was more in your range
I didn't say that like any of what
whatever you know
wait a minute
like Mussoletti
you know it's easier than you're
the key idea is not my
son. It's easier on the ear. That was Stan Lane's song, wasn't it?
No, that was the bitch, is not my daughter.
But what are you? Anyway, he got the big CM Punk chance. Did CM Punk as he came hurtling out of the shoot?
And he did the promo, you know, because this is first time really talk. It says he'd been back from the hell
to sell and here's the update he settled with Drew
and he handled the business with his friend Paul Heyman
and now he knows what the future holds
and he you know teased the verb as seeing the sign
talking about the WrestleMania sign that is not hanging up yet
but he talked about the different roads and the different ways that you
could go to finish your story
and the people are with this.
When he's finished the story of them, they know what's going on.
And he said I could choose the Royal Rumble or the elimination chamber.
I've got a favor or two in my pocket to help me out if I need it politically, I think he said,
and then suddenly, boom, Seth Franklin Rollins music interrupts.
And of course, so what now punk's.
natural goal
after he's done these things would be
to main event WrestleMania. That's what he's
teasing. But then suddenly
here comes
the guy that just
cannot get over a grudge with people,
certain people.
And he can
I like that even when he came out
with Seth came out in the shiny
pleather suit, he was not
the
joking the
the innovator, the duplicator, the masturbator,
he was serious, he don't like this fucking guy.
So there, no one went to,
the fans were still singing the,
Whoa,
see, that's not my note.
But they, they, yes.
I was just going to say, as you said, what the fans are doing,
it was interesting that the fans took more with punk than Rollins.
Well, yes, because, and that's the thing is that
they sang, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
and the punk and Rollins milked it
but then they had the CM Punk chance after that
and they milked that
because this first segment was like 20 something fucking minutes
and it didn't get long, it didn't get old
and the thing is when Seth starts out with the
I should have knocked your ass out the day you came back
but I had pity for you after hell at a cell
I didn't take my shot then
and after Saturday it's time to rectify my mistakes
and he's starting to take his jacket off and everything
he says the only thing between us is air and hatred
and tonight's the night that I knock you on your ass
and the people like punk
they want Seth
philosophically psychologically
however he said they want Seth to get with the program
he's a baby face he's helped the baby faces right and they still like Seth but at the same time
they like punk and since Seth is the one not getting with the program it's subtle but it's
there and just the way that they they're verbalizing these things and that's why this is so
fucking good because somebody's put a lot of thought into all of this and
punk's, you know, attitude is like you talk too much and you don't listen.
I put personal stuff in the past.
You have nothing I want.
You're not a champion.
I know what my future is and kid you ain't in it.
And you thought about me for six months and I don't think about you at all.
That got a pop.
And so he said, I've got things to do in this business.
So stay out of my business.
It's just subtle that Seth is still, you know,
know, going to this length, right?
He's holding this grudge.
And Seth, you talk too much and don't listen enough.
This is my business.
And he shoves punk on his ass.
And then punk gets up, oh, motherfucker, and he locks up with Seth.
And here they take him down here, they go.
And here comes Sammy and Jay in to separate him,
because they've got an interest in these people.
and by that point the crowd did you let them fight let them because they want to see the fucking fight they have been wanting to see this match
this could potentially be a
WrestleMania main event co-made event however they're going to structure this thing
but anyway Pierce came out and
he's trying to you know calm punk down and seth is on a microphone
and Punk reaches in, tries to pull him out, they've got the agents and everything going on,
and then Seth tells, and Jay is out there trying to take Punk back,
and Seth tells Jay, yeah, yeah, go ahead, run along to Roman.
So we're about to get to the second act, but you've got to react to what has gone on so far.
I thought Punk's promo was good. It was going somewhere. You were waiting to see where it went,
and then it got interrupted, and then the direction that went in was great.
He used that great Don Draper line from Mad Men, I never think about you at all.
Yeah.
And that interaction with him and Rollins was great.
Rollins seething and punk fucking with his head.
And then when they went at it, you know, it was a little thing that you never see when they finally went at it.
Punk threw a few shots, clearly trying to hit the air, which he did.
Yeah.
But it looked good because you never see someone go and throw punches.
Rollins may have got him on the nose.
I don't know.
But punk was throwing shots at the air for, like, a half a second before he went down.
That was great.
And again, this had gone on a while, still wanted it to go on.
It was not over.
And it was a great opening segment.
And then act two, like you said, they got Punk out of there.
And somehow the story got even more intriguing.
So then since Jay went with punk tried to get him out of there,
Sammy is in the ring with Seth trying to get him calm down.
and then as soon as Seth has said to Jay,
who's already in the aisleway with punk and Pierce and all those folks,
yeah, run along to Roman.
Then Sammy bows up at Seth and says,
hey, hey, I'm, you know, all due respect, whatever,
you know, you don't get to talk to Jay Uso that way.
What was that line?
Well, what did they actually?
Don't talk to my girlfriend like that.
I mean, that's one thing, but you don't get to talk to Jay Uso that way?
Well, but it got an ooh from the audience, so maybe
maybe they've had to say that a number of times.
I don't know.
I am his protector.
You better not say that.
What the fuck?
Sammy, so it was Sammy that was Lasertron, protector of the children all along.
Yeah, like you said, it worked, but it's kind of a silly line when you really think about it.
Yes, I would think you need to show Jay Uso a little more respect or something.
But the point was that you don't get to talk to Jay that way.
and said, oh, I'm sorry, my bad.
Jay's family.
You know, he's part of the family there, but what's your excuse, Sammy?
And the crowd starts chanting Sammy Uso, Sammy Uso.
So again, Seth is being the more confrontations,
the more grudgeful person with poor old Sammy.
Who just wants everybody to get along and have peace on earth
and give me love, give me love, give me peace honor, that type of thing.
So Seth is supposed to be the, the cactus in this fucking arrangement.
And Seth says, you and I are closer than them.
We were family two.
You stabbed me in the back.
You know, we're seeing punk, teaming up.
The whole thing is he's bad because he's bad because he's.
everybody's teamed with Roman and everybody's team with punk.
And Sammy came back and this was perfect because
Sammy could say, I didn't want him, I wanted you.
I asked you twice and you said no.
And Seth said, well, what did you want me to do?
You wanted me to help the monster, Roman reigns.
After all I'd done and all he'd done to me and all I'd done
and try to get rid of him.
And Sammies, you created the monster 10 years ago with the chair shot.
So talk about long-term booking.
And Seth fired up.
And he ended up with you, did the same damn thing.
He was being serious and not the, you know, as we mentioned, the flamboyant or whatever.
But you hit him with a fucking chair too.
We all did all of this to take down the bloodline.
And Roman hasn't changed or apologized.
And you're teaming with him.
You're gullible and you're stupid.
I mean, this is a great...
It's not some contrived bullshit
about the time that you blew me up with a hand grenade
and the exploding ring match in the parking lot
and fucking Nagoya.
It's simple shit that makes sense
that they have left these points along the way
that they can back up with video to tell these fucking stories.
Yeah, see, that's what it is.
everything references things that if you're a fan you remember or could easily find that about.
Yes.
And they're saying the things that they would say if some of them were as articulate in real life.
But all these guys are great on the promos.
But they're telling the story and then they're fighting about what the story is and everybody's got a fucking gripe.
And so Sammy says, well, you want to blow some steam off?
I'll take you on tonight.
and Seth agreed to it
and we were 25 minutes into the show
without taking a commercial break
with all of these people
having come out to talk to us
and it wasn't old at all.
It could have kept on going.
They could have sent somebody else out there.
Well, I mean, they did send somebody else out
but I mean to talk to us.
That was the best opening segment on Raw
in a long time.
That was one a few weeks ago
I like to remember what Liv Morgan and Dominic
and the stands going at it with Ria and Priest.
I thought that was boy.
I would have, I'd like to see
the home video of that, Liv and Dominic
in the stands going at it with...
Too bad your friend Bonnie Lee Bakeley's not around to support.
Well, you know, Bonnie could track down
the hard to find stuff.
But this was a fantastic segment.
Every single person that was on the mic
delivered.
Sammy was perfect.
Rollins was perfect. Punk was perfect.
Jay Uso was out there
and then he got called out, you never saw him again.
I don't know where he went.
I guess he carried punk away or helped push him.
Well, he did help, yes, usher punk to a safe, safer location.
Even the timing when Rollins and Punk went out of the timing of
when Sammy and Jay hit the ring and then when Pearson, the officials at the,
everything was done perfect.
This was great.
And that's another thing is that.
much stuff still left, you're still left
with Punk and Rollins hanging
above all of this? Yes.
And
to your point about, you know, people
came out in escalating orders
of importance and or, etc.
Instead of just sending 20 security
guys, let's everybody take a big bump
or what, it looked more
real and or chaotic
and or just people trying to get in the
middle of something.
So, yeah, so
25% of the show
was that, that's the same length as even longer than a 30-minute sitcom or television program
with commercials, and they took up the whole amount of time, and it was excellent.
And there wasn't just dead silence from the fans. The fans were invested in this long talking
segment with action. It was perfect. Yes. Well, and they were part of it actually also,
because they were chanting and singing and saying all the right things in the right places
and ooing and eyeing.
They were the,
the studio audience,
almost for them now is,
is a laugh track,
is a,
it's almost like it's pre-recorded.
They know what,
well, most of them,
they're still the carrying crosses of the world,
but most of them can get a reaction of what,
you know,
to what they're doing.
They don't even have to pipe it in anymore.
Anyway, but speaking of that, of piping things in,
they had to, I don't know why I did that segue.
Very interesting transition there, yeah.
Well, they piped in the damage control against Liv Morgan and Rochelle-Richelle match.
And I wasn't going to watch that, but boy, after the finish, when the heels won,
here came Maria Ripley, and I had to stop and pay attention.
And she and Rochelle had a big fight.
and finally Ria got a chance to run live into the post,
but Rochelle ran Ria's face into the desk
and then here games more referees and security.
And the people start chanting,
mommy, mommy, mommy.
It's like a daycare center.
Well, actually, you know, it's more like the cry for attention from
Mommy, Mommy, Mama, Mama, Mama, Mama, Mama.
mom I forgot you're not a Stewie Griffin aficionada no idea what you're talking about you know what
I know you're not a big fan and you may at times put her down even though you've actually
given her some good reviews too I'm an E.O. Sky fan I think E.O. Sky's really good. Stacey likes
E.O. Sky. Sky's because Stacy's smart. Well now see I can't
I can't say anything about that or else why it would cause me even more consternation.
found your kryptonite. I'm just going to say your wife agrees with me on all these things you were
probably with. No, no, now, goddamn. Some of these things, she may not be in accordance with you on,
but the thing, I just, I don't, I'm sorry, minute, diminutive, and ble. But nevertheless,
they're into Ria Ripley. But they keep trying to bash her face in after, apparently they did it for real.
Raquel is what Camille should have been
there you go
I mean it's the big
the muscle
the the hired
you know
not hired killer but the bodyguard
the hired muscle
and that way little live
it can talk big because she's got the big girl
backing her up that could have been the same thing
with little fucking Mercedes moaning
but
I don't know what the fuck they did there
All right. Well, let's continue on with the best raw in a very long time.
Well, it doesn't make it sound like it as we've been going on here, but nevertheless,
Gunther is in the back, and boy, howdy, there's going to be a fantastic match coming up shortly,
and I'm not being sarcastic. One of my favorite things of the night,
but they had Finn come in and interrupt Gunther as he was trying to speak, and Dom is there.
And Finn's deal is he,
Gunther owes him a title match.
Because instead of kicking him in a face like he did
at the Survivor Series,
he ought to be thanking him because he helped him win.
And Gunther said, I didn't want your help
and you don't deserve a title match.
And he looked at Dom and I can't remember exactly how he worded it,
but mostly like this little weasel deserves a match better than you do.
and so Gunther says I'm going to go talk to Pierce
and because I've got a little pull around here
and the whole thing of Finn is upset
he got beat by priest at least Dominic
before when they did that angle
had beaten Priest blah blah blah
so later on we're going to get Gunther
or we should just go ahead and talk about Gunther and Dom
shouldn't we?
Yeah, in the same
in the same flow of things,
because we've got a long,
a long time to get there.
The match was fucking perfect.
And this, again,
it's two heels,
but they have been
kind of painting Gunther
in somewhat of a more straight-laced category
in terms of he doesn't want Kaiser to help him,
he doesn't need other people's help.
He's somewhat of a sympathetic
heel, if that
makes any sense.
Whereas they really don't like Dom,
but at the same point
this match was so good at one point,
they were just thinking Dominic was
going to fucking win and they wanted to see it
because Good, they're still
a heel after all.
So I mean, this shit was great.
And they
worked the match
perfectly as I've
talked about before when you
when you
have to work with a guy not
based on what he can do but
based on what he should do what he's
what his gimmick his character
is supposed to do
Gunther's manhandled
everybody and the chop
levels everybody
and he's so big and powerful
that's his gimmick
Dominic is a
weasily chicken shit
and a kind of a
cow
but he, you know, at the same time he can do shit,
especially when he gets an unfair advantage.
So he cheats.
And with, this was perfect for that.
Dominic got offense all over the place,
but it was all set up.
I'm pretty sure Gunther was calling this.
But it was set up to where that Dominic would take over bag.
Like when Gunther went to power bomb him,
Dominic sat back and Hurricane Ron
Hurrican Ronned
Hurricane Ron at Gunther
head first into the ring post and hit him
with a quick drop kick
and in a dive but then
Gunther just took over on him and beat
a fuck out of him
and toyed with him and chopped
the shit out of him
and then he would get a sleeper
but Dominic would mule kick
him into nuts and give him a
619 to the nuts
and then
I think a 6-1-9 to the head
and then a splash off the top rope
and when he got the two count
there was a big pop
and the fans were chanting
dirty dom
dirty dom
they were working this thing
perfectly
and then right after that
Goethe hit him with a chop
a big boot and a power bomb
and pinned him one two three and got another
big pop but that was
before we even talk about the little
skirmish after the fact
this is if anybody
wants to know what I'm talking about
when I say I'm sure
that Dominic if
Gunther wanted him
to vertical suplex him 17
times in a row could do it
but it doesn't
make sense so if anybody wants to know
what I'm talking about of working
with a guy the way that he's
supposed to be perceived
and not do
anything stupid on either side, this is it.
I don't know. What did you think? Am I too easily pleased these days?
No, this was really good. The fans were really into it. I guess my only thing is you pointed out
the fans chanting dirty dom and being behind him. I brought it up, I think, last week during a
review. I was getting that feeling a little bit here, especially backstage confronting
the entire judgment day, who were a heel stable. Gunther. I mean, I thought they were
setting it up for Gunther to get baby-face reactions.
Well, but here's the thing.
He got one when he won the match.
But their match was so good because on the surface of it,
you know, people would think,
okay, it's a TV match with Gunther and Dominic
and he's going to beat Dominic up because fuck Dominic.
Dominic's a puss or what, you're right?
But they got him into the goddamn thing
to where they thought they were going to see an upset.
They thought that Dominic was going to beat Gunther for the world title
and they were going to get to see it in person
because all this other wild shits going on.
So that they were getting behind.
And then when Gunther beat him
and brought him back to reality,
they cheered for him because he's so fucking good.
So it was really great.
Everybody looked better
than they did going in
because Dominic got that offense on this guy
so you can take him a little more seriously.
But still,
it's fucking Gunther
and we were brought back to reality
and then
Finn came in
and leveled
Gunther and hit
a double stomp off the top
and then told Dominic
watch and learn kid
see it with that accent
just like that
and hit another one and then a third
one and laid
the belt over Gunther
but now
because of the Bronson Reed
precedent, the fans
were chanting one more time, one more
time because they just want to see it.
At this point, they just wanted to see every
goddamn thing.
So everybody here
because they're really all
heels, at one point
or another, they're cheering for everybody
because they're doing
shit that they like to see.
But over a long
longer period of time
are they, you know,
Gunther is, I don't know if they're going to turn him baby face or just, they're playing with
this now that there's such levels to this.
He'll be a heel, but a more honorable heel, and there may be something go on with him
and Kaiser.
But anyway, nevertheless, that was fun.
So now they're talking good and working good.
Holy shit, on the same show even.
And it's not over yet.
Yeah, I'm just going to throw a question at you.
Don't answer it now.
Answer it at the end.
What got into them this week?
Because it's such a...
The pacing of the show was good.
Again, two hours, I know, but the amount of things that happen with people you care about,
something happened with people I typically don't care about, and it pulled me completely in.
What got into them this week with this show?
Well, it's about time.
Because in four weeks, they're going to Netflix,
and not only do they have the Saturday night's main event in December
that they're adding things to here,
but also coming up on Royal Rumble, which is in a stadium, right?
Again, another stadium.
So this is about the time to start revving things up a little bit.
That's why I'm wondering.
I was thinking it might be for Netflix,
but maybe is it just they slowed things down for a few weeks
so they could rev back up about this time?
And it got John Cena coming back.
So I think that, you know,
they just got a fucking wild hair up their ass
to start this week.
But anyway, they also had an Intercontinental Title Tournament Three-Way
women's
blah blah
Dakota Kai
Shana Basler and
Catana Chance
and they didn't have a chance
that I was going to watch that
but then the new day
they did a package on
because it was the
10th anniversary of the new day
the formation of the team
and so they did a history package
video package on them
with Kofi and Xavier and Biggie
and the trombones and the cereal
and the bootyos and the bootyons
and the
and Coffey was the, when he won the tie
Kofi was the champion
and Biggie was the champion
and Xavier was king of the ring
and didn't say anything about Odyssey
where do you think Odyssey was
that's a good question
somebody ought to go out on an odyssey and look for him
he's almost like a figment of your imagination he was there
was he really he was there and then he was gone
did he really exist yeah because big he could come
hey who's that big fucking guy you were talking about a few months ago
now anyway
I never I never got the trombones and the cereal
and the I think each of the guys in her own way
individually were
especially
woods to me
were good workers
but the outfits and the trombones
and the cereal and et cetera
was always so
silly
and it had already been established
by the time that you and I started
watching this programming
again so
but I never got
it's like what Dennis Miller said about
the reunification
of East and West Germany
I didn't like their previous work
and I'm not sure I want to see the new stuff
right? As a
as a tag team
or people with trombones
I didn't want to see these people
but
by the time they finished
the next 15 minutes
I want to see these fucking people
as long as they drop the trombones
and the fucking cereal
this was great
I couldn't believe that
could you believe this was great
what we're about to talk about.
This is the best thing I've ever seen with The New Day ever.
It said that it's their breakup.
It was the best thing I've ever seen them do.
And everyone did a great job,
but the facial reactions from Big E.
Yes.
As this was happening,
were the most believable reactions
of someone who is disappointed, crushed.
Whatever you want to say.
This segment was astounding.
Best thing any of them have ever done, incredible.
And I mean, you know that they had,
because everything that they said made sense and was complicated
and you had to remember the history and the story.
So they had to really put a lot of work in it because they did great.
But for the folks who didn't see it,
they had the ring set up and the balloons and belts
and big blown up pictures on tripods and cereal in the ring.
The WWE treatment, yes, but the 10th anniversary of the New Day.
And they're the most decorated tag team in WWE history, which again, but then they've been there for 10 years in the days of top tag teams all over the business.
Nobody stayed in one company and won the belts 12 times unless it was a smaller territory.
But nevertheless.
By the way, demolition not just had tag titles, but they literally decorated their face.
So you could say they're the most decorated tag team of all time.
You're just a demolition fan and you're reaching now.
You just hate demolition.
I don't hate demolition.
Barry Darso, I've loved him, known him, since...
You like the people.
Louisiana.
And I didn't even...
I just...
I'm being honest when, yes, it was Vince's answer to the road warriors,
and it was a...
It was like a...
It was the...
They were the fantastics to the Rock and Roll Express.
How's that?
You know, some say it's Vince's reaction to the Road Warriors.
Other people say it's Randy Colley's reaction.
the road well it could be that also but anyway um so pierce congratulated them and the fans chanted
for them and was it ever explained in years gone by why woods holds the microphone like that
it's very off i can't look away i don't know an explanation though i don't know but so woods was
humble and said thank you to all the fans
and Kofi did the same
and remember
last week when they
got in an argument
they just told each other what the
fuck was wrong with each other and how
they needed to modify their behavior
and as
you'll recall when we
talked about it I said it sounded like they both
had a bit of a point right
but they were
this sounded irreconcilable
and so they've got the somber
faces and
Woods says
what we're about
to tell you fans is not your fault
and
Kofi said that
well Woods and I
have talked and
we feel that when it comes to the new day
going forward
see they're going to announce their
fucking breakup right
suddenly Biggie's music plays
and he gets a big pop
because he hadn't been around.
Did they say it's been four years since he hurt his neck?
I believe they said that, but he's on, like, the pregame show
and the postgame show for the pay-per-views on Peacock.
Well, yeah, but I...
All right, Mr. God damn Randy McNally with all the minute details.
He hadn't been around on Raw or Smackdown.
He hadn't been part of their team.
The story that they told, announcers told,
was that he is on the pre-game show,
but he hasn't been on Raw or Smackdown.
down.
And I believe they said four years,
are they exaggerating?
It's where I was going.
But you have to correct me on everything.
But anyway, he hadn't been around in a while there with them in that way.
And he gets in the rain,
like you said, he was great.
And he's like trying to be, you know,
the friend that's in the middle and the peacemaker,
He gets on both of them for saying hurtful things to each other.
Because all we had when we started was each other.
And he did the emotional promo about all that they'd been through together.
When they came to his bedside in the hospital and when the other guy did this and did that and our children and think of the children, God damn, think of the children.
and so it was good he was good and he said but here's the thing you guys after all we've been through
together can't it's not going to end this way until i'm medically cleared to return to the ring
i'm going to be here to remind you who you guys are i'm going to be here to cheer you on to
uplift you to give you spirit i'm going to serve as your manager just every night you
I'll be with you.
And the fans popped.
And the fans popped.
And they started chanting E, E, E, E, E, E.
It was almost like, Eishi had switched sides.
And then they chanted New Day Rocks, New Day Rocks, and Big E's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all excited.
And I knew something was up when both Kofi and Woods had to stone faces.
And I'll be a son of a gun.
Wouldn't you know who won the pony?
have swerved us because all this time we've been waiting for Woods to turn on Kofi
and Woods was going to be the heel and Woods was being the prick and Woods wouldn't get
over stuff and they've swerved us they're both on the same side and they used Big E and this was
perfect because Wood said now now you want to come back after
We've been arguing with each other for months.
You want to come back now.
You left us to begin with.
And Biggie said, I broke my neck.
And Coveys, you broke your neck.
So what?
This is a stone cove broke his neck.
Angle broke his neck.
Edge brother.
They all broke their necks and they came back.
They were blaming Biggie.
This was fucking great.
And he was selling it in his face.
Yes.
Like you would almost.
I don't even know how to describe it, but you would see he would almost like mumble to himself.
Yes.
Like something he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, you can tell.
It was perfect.
Humma, humming, hummed, hummed, and, Ed Kofi said, you never even had surgery.
You couldn't come back.
You never had surgery.
And Big E starts apologizing when I did the therapy.
And it's a, but that, now please.
And Kobe said, you chose your new life over us.
and you know your goddair your new desk job i don't know i guess because he's at the announced desk
and your new girlfriend i don't know if that was necessary to bring that in you know people may
take that any way you might that got a reaction from the fans when they well they were cal oh
that's personal who is his that is his girlfriend someone we should know or is who it we've never
We've never heard a single thing about him having a girlfriend or who it is.
So that was just them throwing something out there to make it more believable.
Oh, I thought you meant.
So you were thinking he was gay because you never heard about him having a girlfriend.
I don't know what they heard about him having a girlfriend.
I don't ask around it.
Hey, so who's Big E fucking this week?
I don't do that.
Well, a guy named Big E, you might better keep an eye on that.
It might be worth knowing.
If it was Big D, maybe it would be worth knowing.
But Big E, I don't know.
Well, you know what?
Why are we doing this?
E follows D.
This is a serious segment we're talking about.
Vitamin E will help the D.
But so anyway,
Cofi said you chose all this stuff over us.
And Wood says,
do you realize the burden that you've become to us?
We miss you, but you don't miss us.
And you're never going to be cleared.
So get the hell out of the ring
and back to your desk where you belong.
And again, he, and his lip is quivered, and his eyes are just puddling up.
And he's now he's off microphone, he's not even speaking on a microphone.
He's standing there and he's looking like you don't know whether to go or to stay.
And then he's talking, and you can hear it because the camera microphone is picking it up.
I'm not going to let you throw this way like that.
I'm not going to let you throw this way like that.
His arms are out.
He wants a hug and Kofi's still.
farms him.
And he said, no, I can't.
No, you can't. And he gets
out of the ring, heartbroken.
We're putting up all kinds of
argument about this, which made it, you know,
all the better. And as he's moping off
Woods and fucking Kofi shake hands with each other.
And it's like, yeah, we've, we've always
got Buenos Aires or whatever the fuck.
Did anybody suspect that was coming in that fashion?
Not in that fashion, no.
I guess the next question is, where do they go from here?
The heel, I don't know if you call them the new day,
but the heel, Xavier Woods, Coffey, Kingston team could be interesting,
who they working with.
Is Biggie coming back?
And if not, is he going to be the manager for someone else?
Where are they going to go with it?
Like, there has to be a match with someone.
Well, here's the thing.
Because remember I said when Odyssey was involved,
and it looked like Woods was turning on both of them
because he wasn't happy about Kofi liking the big man or whatever,
I was thinking, well, goddamn Woods better get mad or get glad one of the other
because what's he going to do about it?
If he turns that he's got this 400-pound guy and his partner,
and he needs some help, who would that be?
So maybe now that they were built,
to doing that this type of turn,
and now that I'm talking it through,
it sounds plausible.
They were building toward doing this type of turn
with Odyssey Jones,
where they would both turn as a team on him
in this kind of fashion.
And since he didn't work out,
they said, well, let's do it with Big E.
E does not have to be returning now
or to be a...
E was the...
The straw that stirred this
in terms of he had the most history with them.
If they had to come up with a plan B
and they noticed that, well, now in just a couple months
it'll be 10 years,
and Big E doesn't have to wrestle
we can just turn these guys heel
because we want them to be a heel team.
Then E was what the device that was used to make sure the people know their heels.
And then they could shoot some kind of angle with a tag team.
And I don't think that, I think we would have heard about it if E was going to be cleared
at any time in the near future.
So I think this would, because how can you not be a heel when you're turning on your
former partner that broke his neck and people know it for real.
Yeah, I guess we're also got to see what happens next.
I mean, it's not like they put hands on him other than I pushing him away.
They didn't hit him.
That'd be a major heel move that would get some heat.
Well, and it also might be a move that can get some legal support in court
if anything happened to him, and he sued TKO for $7 billion.
Well, we'll see where they go, but while we're going through this roll,
let's wrap it all up.
Let's get to everything else here.
Well, yes, because now we gots to go back ahead past Gunther and Dominic,
and we get to the main event after Our Truth beats Butch,
and less said about that, the better.
And now the fans are all chanting Butch at him like a taunt.
And I still say something is the matter with the shape of his face.
It's put together like a ransom note.
I don't know what's going on.
I still say this man.
Well, you, I maintain that this individual has an oddly contoured face.
And you argue with me, at least chastise me for saying it every time I bring it up.
But anyway, Seth and Sammy was the main event.
And, oh, and by the way, Finn and Gunther has been added to the Saturday.
night's main event extravaganza.
But Seth and Sammy, and again, you know,
you want to see what's going to go on because is,
is Seth going to turn full-fledged heel and pull out a goddamn roto
router and disembowel Sammy or is something else going to happen with them?
But what's going to go on, right?
You're interested.
So it's two baby faces.
And again, they get us there and then they do an open where they
they pie face each other a couple times
and do a big running spot
and they go to the break in 30 seconds.
So they come back with seven minutes on the air.
So this is just an angle to get to the next chapter.
But the fans were behind Sammy
because he's the likeable sympathetic one in this situation.
Even though if Seth was to turn around and do something
to somebody they don't like,
they'd be just as happy about it as they.
ever were.
And finally,
boom, boom,
Sammy had hit a blue thunder bomb
and got a two count and
ran for the big kick,
but Seth came out with the super kick,
but missed a curb stomp.
And Sammy,
he rolled out to the floor,
and Seth came out
and tried to reason with him.
Look, I don't want this fight.
It's over,
it's over Roman.
and Sammy, and we forgot to say this,
because right before the goddamn break
that this came up,
they found Jay Uso had been beaten up and attacked
and whatever else had happened to him in the back.
It's so dangerous back there.
And that was done really well too.
I forget who Jackie Redman was even talking to.
She was interviewing someone.
It was Butch.
It was butch.
And then agents started running by
and she just goes, go, go, go.
and they ran with the agents, the cameraman, to see Jay Uso down.
Yes, but see, that would be great if we had not seen it on every television program
from both companies for the last three years or so.
I would love stuff like that if you didn't see it.
About 16 times a fucking week.
How many times does AEW have somebody get potatoed in the fucking backstage area
on every television show and they got,
three shows a week.
However many times they show the backstage area.
Well, Larry, so anyway.
But Sammy's thinking that it was Seth,
and Sammy is screaming,
I know it was you, and Sammy slapped Seth in the face.
And so Seth's a motherfucker,
and he runs Sammy into the post twice,
and then throws him into the timekeeper's pit.
Is that what we should call it?
They've got their own separated off area
that wrestlers can be thrown into that
without anybody being sued?
It's the timekeeper's corner.
I prefer Pitt.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time now
for the timekeeper's corner
with whatever this faceless timekeeper is.
Anyway, so Seth comes out,
or Sammy rather, came out of it
with a big kick on Seth
and then ran Seth into the post.
the fans are chain
and Sammy
Usso
as Seth rolls in the ring
and Sammy's getting
he's got a chair
then he's gonna beat
the shit out of Seth
and Sammy's
I know it was you
and now Seth is
what are you talking about
you attack Jay
me
it wasn't me
I wouldn't do that
did you ask punk if it was him
and now Sammy
he's
conflicted, he throws the chair out and turns to go back to Seth and Seth small packaged
him one, two, three.
And when they sit up and Seth tells Sammy, I love your heart, but you better start using
your head.
And he gets out of the fucking rigging leaves and there's Sammy.
He's always too nice.
He's like the current Mick Foley.
He's just too nice.
and it worked against him
and as he's standing there
confused over the
happenings of what has happened
a guy in a hoodie
gets in the ring
and hits him with a fucking Claymore
kick
and unhoods himself
and stands there and it's Drew
fucking McIntyre
holy shit he's back
so what a fan
we're off the air what a show
what a show
and we're assuming he's the one
to attack Jay Uso.
What if he comes out next week?
It does a promo and says,
I'm not the one who attacked Jay Uso.
That'll lead them more.
But no, this was really good and good match.
I like the finish, the way it happened.
You know, he told Sammy the thing,
rattled him and got him.
And now he got McIntyre,
who we kind of forgot about in just a month
or whatever it was.
Back in the main event picture,
is Sammy and McIntyre and Jay Uso
going to play out here on Raw
or on SmackDown?
because they're all on Smackdown
was part of the big bloodline thing right now, aren't they?
Well, they're here too.
They're over here now.
I think they can be way.
This company is setting gate records
and viewing records on the peacock
and, you know, stadium shows are coming up
and they've got Netflix coming up
and all these stars.
I think, and also, didn't they split the rosters because Fox and USA could be sold as having different talent on their programs,
that dichotomy of relationships is coming to an end.
Can't anybody just be on anything?
But one way or another, boom, they were there.
We shall find that.
That was WWE Raw.
again a great episode, go out of your way to see the things that happen here.
But Jim, yes.
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Well, you know what that means, Jim.
It's time that we move on.
Yeah, from that music.
Well, there's a lot of big things happen.
and I know that you are kind of out of touch with,
I don't mean you're out of touch,
I mean you choose to not.
Oh, you, yeah, you're jumping on everybody else's bandwagon.
You choose to not be active on social media
so that you're not really up to date on everything.
I've been signing a lot of action figures
and I haven't had time to peruse all of the news on the inner webs
and I'm not going to your sky blue thing.
you can have her ass all to yourself.
It's blue sky.
Let's not be...
And I don't want to learn anything else.
The last thing I want to do is learn.
You know, when you start learning, you die, I've heard.
This is a great start.
Yeah, this is a...
Wait you hear that?
Yeah, well, it's some saying like that.
As soon as I heard the word death,
I didn't want to go any further with it.
So I'm just staying away from all the learning.
All right, this has been the drive.
drive through, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah.
No, but let's talk about some of the things happening.
And I have a press release here from TNA.
Oh, it wasn't a release. It escaped.
Rebellion pay-per-view will be in Los Angeles.
Slammaversory is in New York City.
More than one million votes were cast in the unprecedented online destination selection offered
the TN wrestling fans.
Wait a minute, no shit. No shit. The two biggest cities in the country won?
Yet, there was no overwhelming winner.
New York City or Los Angeles.
That means only 17 people voted for one and 15 for the other. Is that what that means?
So, TNA wrestling confirmed today that it will have a major live event in 2025 in both cities.
The Rebellion Paperview will be Sunday, April 27th,
originating from the Gallin Center
on the campus of the University of Southern California, U.S.
Wait a minute, how do you spell that?
G-A-L-E-N.
Okay, that would be more Galen Center
than gallon, like a gallon of milk.
Isn't that how you say it in New Jersey, a gallon of milk?
Well, we say it like that, yeah,
when we go to Dairy Barn or whatever the hell you're talking about, yeah.
barn or get you a gallon ice cream over to derrick barn uh has anybody ever heard of that place before
the gallon center or whatever it is is home to the u s c trojans basketball and u sc volleyball teams
why did they name college sports teams after prophylactics that has played host of concerts
pageants theatrical performances and more well here's one more theatrical performance
The annual Kids Choice Awards, presented by Nickelodeon, have originated from the Gallowin Center numerous times.
Well, maybe I should have waited to make the comparison then, until you brought that up.
Well, we'll get back to that. Let me continue with the other arena.
Yeah, where are we going on the right coast?
Slammiversary is Sunday, July 20th at the UBS Arena in Belmont Park, New York.
Where the fuck is that?
That is the brand new arena that AEW first started running,
and they got some, you know, they got a couple of big houses,
and MJF was all over TV locally up here.
That's a big...
You're a big motherfucker.
You know, we all talk about Tony Kahn now scaling back finally on these big buildings.
This is the other way for TNA.
This is TNA taking their pay-per-view event to a building.
They've never run a building like that.
like that on the East Coast, have they?
In the Northeast and New York, have they ever?
Well, have they...
Where has T&A run a big house show?
I remember when I was there, 06-09.
They did a building in suburban St. Louis.
It was like a 6,000-seater.
Atlanta, same thing.
When have they run?
During the Hogan era, did they...
They may have run big buildings.
I don't hear about them filling them up, but...
Well, this is a big building for them,
especially in the market.
New York, here's a...
Here's some more information.
Opened in 2021.
The UBS Arena is the home
of the New York Islanders
of the National Hockey League.
Here's a quote from TNA World Champion,
Nick Nemeth.
I am beyond excited
to defend the TNA World Championship
from coast to coast
in two of the most iconic cities
of...
two of the most iconic cities.
In two of the most of the...
He needs to put New York and L.A. over.
In two of the most iconic cities in the world,
Los Angeles and New York City.
This is a groundbreaking day for T&A wrestling.
I cannot wait for the ride
that TNA will be on in 2025.
Tickets go on sale to see.
Because that's when they're running six flags over fucking Jersey.
So again, we're talking about what's going on with AEW.
TNA has now been working with WWE, at least NXT, but that's WWE.
You have to think if they have any favors to call in, it may be for a big pay-per-view event in July in New York City, Queens, technically.
What do you think of this?
I mean, this is a major, I mean, you know, for everyone that thought TNA, whatever,
it was was dead when Scott DeMoor left. Remember we heard talent was ready to walk out.
Everyone was upset. That was the end of the company. They seem to be in the midst of their most
successful run in many years right now. And they actually seem to be growing in, maybe growing
in some support from fans. Well, with the question, so what is, have we established, what is the
seating capacity or what could this building be set up for? Because again, I'm like you. And
Most of the footage I've seen of T&A of recent years has been in smaller locations.
But I would think on the surface of it, I hate to just come out and say something like this
because I can so often be fooled that unless they're crazy,
they have an attraction in mind that they believe that they can do well in that building with.
The question is, what is it?
Is it...
John Cena's long-time dream of working for TNA.
Well, something like that,
but that's what I don't know what it would be
unless it's something
that they believe either from the WWE relationship
would have a mainstream appeal
or something that some relationship they've gotten into
where there's someone in that New York market
that they believe that they can do,
they can sell some tickets with,
but I,
you don't just all of a sudden,
and if the fans are voting where they want to have a show,
well, that's,
that's one thing.
But,
really,
if you think about just where fan bases are,
like Des Moines doesn't have a shot.
Oh, yeah,
I don't,
think that Des Moines was even going to fucking outrank Detroit.
But that's one,
thing there if you're having the fans vote where you have a show because you can still control
what kind of facility you have the show in in that location. But if you're renting a big
major arena when that is not traditionally what you're doing, then you've got to already think
you have the attraction in mind, right? Rather than if we rent it, they will come. And again,
they can scale buildings down. We've seen it. But the UBS arena, capacity.
for concerts, 19,000.
Oh, sweet Jesus.
Yeah, it's a big, I'm telling you, it's a big building.
It's a brand new arena.
Does Hogan need money again?
Is that, I mean, what else,
I don't see what they can do
that would justify that.
Do you? Can you?
If you have favors to call in,
that's when you call them in, right?
how many fucking favors they got we're not you know yeah i don't know what kind of favors they would be
by the way there's nobody in nxte that's good they'd be running an nxte show in the usb arena or
whatever the fuck if no that's calling in a favor like a j styles returns to tna i'm sorry no i know
you know if you if you're setting a 19000 seat building up for a half a house that's 10 000 people
and just the appearance of one person on the TNA,
in addition to the regular TNA roster or a couple people or whatever,
I don't, unless you were talking about,
did Cody ever, was he ever in TNA to return?
Or what, I mean, that's punk in Chicago type of thing
that you would need to justify that, isn't it?
again, I don't know what that would be.
It's an interesting move.
It's an ambitious move.
I mean, they have a lot of time.
This is kind of like they're Wembley in a lot of ways.
What was that date again?
July 20th.
So here are their big upcoming dates, I guess,
because they have a mega on sale.
Friday, December 20th, free plug for TNA there.
El Paso, March 14th, and 15th at the end of
El Paso County Coliseum.
Night one is a
TNA Plus Live special
sacrifice.
And the, oh, come on now.
Don't make fun of their show names.
They're all awful.
Well, but still,
it's tradition.
The county Coliseum
is that the old building in El Paso
at the fairgrounds, which isn't
too long?
large or, you know, what are too expensive? So two nights in a row, that doesn't seem out of the way.
Capacity listed on Wikipedia is 5250, but I don't know exactly what that's for. But that's,
that's a good size, medium, a good size, medium-sized building. A good-sized medium-sized large
place. That's the kind of place we've been saying that AEW should run. So they'll be there.
March 28th and 29th St. Joseph, Missouri.
And then it says in parentheses, Kansas City.
Wait a minute. What? What? Hold on. No, hold on.
This is their press release, ladies and gentlemen.
Where's my goddamn Atlas?
The venue, the St. Joseph Civic Arena.
Both nights will be taped for the company's flagship weekly TV show, Impact.
Just hold on here one second.
Missouri.
Missouri.
Missouri.
Missouri.
Missouri.
Now, let's see.
St. Joseph.
Where is St. Joseph?
They said
they're supposed to be right next to
fucking St. Louis?
No, it's
No, it says Kansas City. I said it's
Kansas City. Well, I'm looking in the wrong
place.
Well, St. No.
Oh, what the...
Hold on here.
Let me...
Let's see, one inch, 25 miles.
It's fucking 50 miles.
Hold on it.
There's a...
Here, St. Joseph.
St. Joseph to Kansas City's 54 miles.
I didn't think that was a suburb.
Isn't that the way it works in the Midwest?
Like, oh, he was a stone's throat.
That's close enough.
No, it's the other way around.
It's like, what are you going to go all the way over to St.
That's a long way off.
Well, it says here in parentheses, Kansas City, the St. Joseph Civic Arena.
Well, that's like saying in Nashville when you're in Bowling Green.
Nobody would do that.
April 27th, Los Angeles, California, the Gowan Center.
This Sunday night spectacular is the annual Rebellion pay-per-view,
airing live around the world from the campus of USC.
And then finally, July 20th, New York City.
They don't want to say Queens.
It doesn't say Queens in parentheses there, does it?
The UBS Arena.
This Sunday night showcases the annual extravaganza slam anniversary.
Hearing live around the world on pay-per-view
from the home of the NHL New York Islanders.
Where has Samoa Joe gone?
I just realized that.
He's been, well, again, he doesn't work for any of the companies
we're actually talking about right now,
but Samoa Joe last I heard was filming something.
He's in a movie.
What, war and fucking peace?
It's a movie or it's a mini-series or a screen series.
He lost the title in December,
and I don't remember, have we seen him since?
I mean, it didn't take that long.
She'd gone with the wind.
I didn't even remember that he was the champion
until he just brought that up.
Yes, because he was getting over his champion,
so they beat him and then, boom,
and then the MJF and the devil
and the deep blue sea and
but the point I was making a TNA
Slammiversary who could come as Samoa Joe
but that not
not for 20,000 people in New York
he's not
Tony's not going to lend him out either
to TNAW is he still work there
I believe so
doing what
why can't we see Samoa Joe
he's filming stuff somewhere for something
just not Tony
but he's very important stuff that'll get him a lot of notoriety for another organization
entirely well there you go there you go that's the story for anyone who says that we don't
cover tna there's the tna news jim another story breaking and a lot of people sent this in it's not
really a story but enough people sent in something to the email corny drive-thru at gmail.com or
retweet it or retweet it or
or sent it to us via Twitter or whatever else.
Dustin Rhodes on December 3rd, 2024, 6.16 p.m., tweeted out.
Is this time stamped because it's like a deposition, or it was this under oath, or what...
I'm trying to be it all dramatic.
I'm bringing accuracy to the table.
You should try that sometime.
I'll have you know that I have as much accuracy as the next guy.
Well, here's what Dustin Rose, Rose,
Dustin Rose.
Make his name accurate.
Ladies and gentlemen,
his name is Dustin Rhodes.
He's an actual.
Playboy Buddy's brother.
Here's what he tweeted out.
Here's a thought.
Just enjoy wrestling.
Please stop the constant attacking
and vitriol towards us.
We have the most passionate wrestlers
in the world.
We do this for you.
Hashtag, I'm with AEW.
And then he tags AEW and I love and watch all wrestling, all in caps.
Again, the ratings had come out, people were-
Everything I do, I do it for you.
Again, as I was saying, I think this came on the heels of a lot of the discourse around the little ratings.
There was discord about the discourse, is what you're saying?
Well, Dustin took it upon himself, seemingly to put a defense out there for AEW and how passionate everyone is.
Any thoughts on this, on the context of it, and just the idea to do this?
Well, the concept gets a hundred and the execution gets a ten, and the execution gets a ten, and the
the context is the problem, if that makes any sense.
Because when the news is that this particular company's ratings suck,
and their shows are bad,
and a lot of people are pointing it out for an employee of that place to defend it,
is not ever going to, even if it's a full-throated endorsement,
it's not ever going to land, as the kids say,
with the same way as an independent observation or something like that.
Yeah, what's he going to say?
Yeah, you're right.
Our show fucking sucks.
But what he could have done, because Dustin is,
he's a nice guy who has tried to modify some of his behaviors over the years
and be in a more positive light and helpful and contributory to wrestling and society.
and so he's easily likable.
Instead of, hey, y'all lay off of us,
phrasing it like, hey, come on, everybody,
let's all love all wrestling.
What's the negativity?
Whether it's our company or another company,
or let's not bring the business into it.
And how did he phrase it?
He could have said all wrestlers are passionate.
about what they do to try to with the goal to entertain you
if he brought everybody in you'd
you'd kind of have to be a prick like me
to fucking pick it apart right
we have the most passionate wrestlers in the world
they're fucking all over the
yeah they're fucking we have to hose them down
in the fucking locker room every week at TV
they're goddamn like horny dogs they just won't stay off my leg
get off that day
damn leg
but no
you see what I'm saying
if he brought everybody
in the business into it
and all the fans into it
and made it a more general statement
the point would be made
but it wouldn't sound like
he just said please don't talk about
our shitty ratings and rotten shows
because it's just his
yeah I mean that's the thing too
it was kind of like an anti-tribal message
in a tribal
yes you know to be like
let's not all have problems
He both said to everybody,
hey, everybody should chill out and love all wrestling,
but leave my company out of this.
He narrowed it down.
That's what I'm saying.
I think the best part, too,
is he attached a photo himself in his blue gear
with half his face blue and the AEW logo behind him
kind of doing his little pose.
I don't know how serious to take this.
Don't it make my gold dust blue?
The idea of wrestlers,
going to Twitter to defend their company,
whether it's AEW or in the past we've seen it
with WWE even.
What are your thoughts on that?
Oh, it's ridiculous, especially, you know,
I'm not saying dust is a heel.
If you were a heel and you did that, it's even more ridiculous
because all the heel should be, you know,
indifferent as to how the promoters are seen.
They should be self-absorbed and wrapped up in their own shit.
But, no, if you're a personality,
promote your shit
promote the company
but you don't defend it on Twitter
because then
to defend it
you're bringing up
on your Twitter to people who may not know
because I know this is hard for
some people to believe but a wrestler on TV
may have a fan on Twitter that doesn't read the internet
and know all the backstage scoops
they just like the guy's theme music or whatever the fuck
So on the Twitter I'm going to bring up
Yeah, a lot of people say
that my match sucked or my promotion sucked
or my goddamn TV show is on suck
but I'd like to argue with you about that
you're just bringing it up
let the company do that if they're going to do it
How do you think you would have managed Twitter
you know if it was around 30 years ago
again there's a lot of intangibles that were different then
but just you know play along with this example here
Okay
Would it be hard if you're part of management or, you know, close to management or, you know, you can see management over there.
But would it be hard not to jump on there and defend your company?
No, because 30 or 40 years ago, they wouldn't have been griping about the company.
They would have been, the equivalent of fan communication 40 years ago was the fan mail that I reprinted in the Midnight Express scrapbook.
and I could have taken a picture of the letter written in crayon
from a 14-year-old girl in Sumter, South Carolina,
who was going to wait until she was 18 years old
and then find me and kill me for what I'd done to Ricky and Robert.
I could have tweeted the picture of it,
and I could have insulted her and her family
and the Sumter County school system
because of all the words that she misspelled
and made even more fun of the family.
to get them to want to fucking murder me even more.
So yeah, that would have been fun.
But there we go.
There you go.
The big Dustin Rhodes News.
But can you imagine when I was just being able to talk to him on television
and had death threats and people trying to fucking throw shit at us
and goddamn physically assault us in the arenas,
if I could have responded to some of them individually?
No, but like beyond you.
Like, let's say in 1990, 1991, there was Twitter.
And we're talking about the same manner.
management at WCW, who loved running to the sheets.
Jim Hurd, there were plenty of interviews with Jim Hurd all over the fucking...
Oh, yeah.
He wouldn't have been on Twitter arguing with fans or just trying to blow the company?
You know what I mean?
Like, he probably would have been.
You know, that's where it gets a little different, but...
As a talent, and especially as a heel, I would have just stuck to being who I was on the
television program on Twitter.
And if all of the talent did that, they...
could have used it just as they did the radio shows and the,
you know, personal appearances and the fucking guest spots on other TV shows
and all the shit that they did then.
If we're assuming that today's communication exists,
but in that time period, that's what the communication would have been like.
But it would have been easier to get candid photography of the girls at ringside
than back in those days.
Until the first guy got hacked.
And then it would change the game again.
Well, but whether you were the hacker or the hacky.
Oh, please.
I know if you guys would leave their phone in a bar, it wouldn't be password protected.
That's all it would take.
Jim, let's stay on the topic of, I guess, something that revolves around a tweet.
And this story, there's a lot to try to figure out here.
I have several links in front of me.
And by the way, let me bring this up because I said this, I think last time, too.
The Ricky Stark's interview, we talked about last week, was a parent.
from a Chris Van Vleet interview,
which I didn't know.
And people are like,
how come you haven't given him credit?
Because I didn't fucking know.
I didn't see the guy and I didn't hear him in it.
What the fuck?
We said that.
At the time that we presented it,
we've got this clip that somebody sent us
and we wanted us to comment on this.
We don't know where this is from or who's talking here.
Well, we knew Ricky Starks was talking,
but we didn't know he was talking too.
That's right.
But now it's Chris Ben, blah, blah, blah.
So, good heavens.
It's like he's like he's the,
voice of goddamn Edgar Buchanan and everybody in the world knows it or something.
What I saw was literally a camera on Ricky Stark sitting on a couch and there was no
bug, there was no other person shown, there was no other voice heard. So I don't know.
And now we know Chris Van Van Van Vee is the bug.
So, to follow up again on something from last week, because it feeds into this specific
story, the clip that was sent to me, I guess Effie, after everything broke down,
went on his podcast.
Now, wait a minute, F.E.
Just bring the people up now
because a lot of these names
are very obscure to modern polite society.
FE is the wrestler that works for garbage championship wrestling
that said things about Tony Kahn
and AEW running the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York
in front of his garbage company
that led to Tony being offended
and pulling Starks from all the dates
that he had let him agree to in that company since Tony won't use him in AEW.
That's where we're at.
Did they just announced like the day before?
He'll be in his days.
No, he won't.
No, he won't.
And he's gone.
Well, because again, like I said, this feeds into this other story that's happening right now.
Apparently this is from an interview or a thing he did either on his podcast.
I don't know.
The clip I have does not say where it's from.
It says that it was translated from Body Slam Net.
Could have been a conversation he was having in his living,
You know, the statement I made that seemingly was what pissed him off was about his dad paying him to stay away.
And I think those words were appointed and to clarify, I would like to say that I don't think that Tony Conn has ever been the best person that interviewed for a job in that why, and that's why he got this translation.
Okay, is this one of those translations like that we heard the other day from a foreign language or was he drunk?
meant to say is this is from Tokyo Sports, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not sure. I think he's been
given a lot of positions in companies his father owns. I think he's been given a lot of fluff
PR positions. I do not think he was ever the best technical person for any of the jobs that he
has listed. I think the first time he ever actually did any real work was firing CM Punk.
Oh, God. That's why it was so emotionally exhausting for him.
So let's stop there again.
And, you know, it kind of goes back to that drive-through question several weeks ago.
How do you separate the art from the artist?
How do you separate the artist from the art?
Not a fan of Effie's work from the photos I've seen of it.
But he, you know, he may be a little stiff with what he says, but he's not saying anything that you go.
That man's a liar.
Well, no, that's the thing.
You know, he probably realizes, especially at this point, he's not going to get a job out of the billionaire.
so he doesn't mind telling a truth.
And there's nothing there to be argued with or argued about or whatever, as you said.
But as I was when I was talking about the original bone of contention that they were running the same building and AWW was coming in a month and ahead of them or whatever,
that wasn't, I still refused to believe that it was a specific target.
get it attacked by AEW, as much as they wanted to run smaller buildings three nights in a row
and where can we get away with this, New York, we can maybe fill up a 2000-seater or make it
look respectable.
And it just so happened that GCW was having their first event there in three years or whatever
in January or February.
So if Fee, although I can't argue that anything that he's said is inaccurate,
if he had held on to his goddamn shorts for a little while,
or maybe cleared it with his boss, they might have realized,
unless, well, what the fuck, this fucking guy,
you see pictures of the guy that runs that fucking mud show,
he's got to be a surgeon.
you know
he probably thinks they're more important than they are
and it
I guarantee you this was not an attempt to fuck with their show
it just it happened that way and they
wouldn't have had to lose the relationship
if they all hadn't have fucking thought that they were
how do they even claim
or want any kind of exclusivity
past a few weeks on either side
and a building that they've run once ever
and not for three years.
You know, the core of the problem, beyond Effie,
just this specific situation is,
it sounds like there's never been a relationship
between AEW and GCW,
despite the fact that AEW's lent the talent.
Well, how they were they booking a fucking talent?
I guess the talent may have been handling it themselves
or going through that wonderful AEW talent relations department.
I really don't know.
Okay, well, if the talent was handling it themselves,
then both sides are at fault.
Tony Kahn should be fucking mad at the goddamn at his talent.
that somebody in the company had to give them anybody, whether it be the plumber,
Moxley, or whether it's Stark's now, because Moxley's been there before with another one of
his stooges, there had to be okay given for contracted talent to appear, and if G.C.W.
is going on the talents word instead of talking to somebody officially from the promotion
and doing paperwork, it's their fucking fault anyway for being stupid.
you don't take a guy's word for that
and what the fuck is going
and how the fuck are these people
that work for Tony Kahn booked over there
and being advertised in front of God and everybody
and he don't see it and ask somebody
hey
did I say this was okay
he must have
what the fuck
amateurs go ahead I'm sorry
what's question there's no
the fact that there's no relationship
the fact that there's no communication
especially at a time where
with WWE
forging bigger relationships,
not just with the promotions,
now directly with the talent.
Not even the talent they train,
just the other loose talent they could find.
I did this job in the WWF in 1997, 8, 9,
whatever period of time that was,
if there was a contracted talent on the WWF roster
that was appearing on an off day at an autograph signing
at a goddamn roller rink for $500,
we had the promoter's insurance certificate
and a goddamn signed contract
on the talent, on the date from the promoter
and the parameters and times of what he would do
and wouldn't do and would be there and wouldn't be there.
So you mean to tell me, oh, Christ.
Well, that's the update on
everything there, but like I said, it leads into other things and talking about wrestlers
on Twitter doing something or doing their own thing or who knows what the hell they're doing.
That's kind of where this starts.
Do you remember we talked, I think, last year about Ryan Nemeth, who was going to be
for AEW at the time he went on Twitter, and I forget exactly what he was reacting to.
But let me see if I have the exact thing here.
literally the softest man alive, June 17th, 2023, 6.46 p.m.
And it was always said this was in relation to CM Punk and something with CM Punk.
Yes, and I recall at the time because I'm a fan of his brother's work.
And he got his basics here at OVW in Louisville.
I'm a fan of his brother's work
and I thought he was doing a good job
Ryan, the Hollywood hunk
as far as self-promoting himself
for that period of time
and his face was out there
and he was making the most of his
TV appearances
where he was getting a shit kicked out of him
but he was more memorable
than the average flunky
and then I remember saying
I'm disheartened
that he's apparently one of the
lollipop
guild that, you know, hangs out with the kookamonga kids and had opened his mouth in his position,
which was a questionable choice at best, and that's where we left it last year. That's what I
remember. I have something here. This was a fightful article by Jeremy Lambert, March 28th,
24, so earlier this year, Ryan Nemeth clarifies his tweet aimed at CM Punk.
When CM Punk returned to AEW television on the premiere episode of AEW Collision,
oh, that's what it was.
He said that the only people softer than certain fans are the wrestlers that they liked.
Nemeth...
A very memorable line, as I recall.
Nemeth took the social media to tweet literally the softest man alive.
So it was direct response to that.
Yeah.
Speaking to Sports Skeeta, Nemeth clarifies his tweet,
Here's a quote.
There are some things I can talk about and some things I can't talk about.
I can very happily tell you about my tweet.
The top good guy was on the TV show, was missing for eight months due to what I was told was a triceps injury, right?
On his very first night back, he, in character, called someone else soft.
I thought, well, I'm a heel.
This is a baby face.
we both work for the same wrestling company
he gets injured more than anyone who has ever wrestled
and on his very first night back
in character
called someone else soft
in character
I thought what else am I supposed to do
of course I must respond to this
oh my God
in character
and I did
anything beyond that
I'm probably not safely able to talk about at this time
I think that's a very reasonable thing
for a bad guy heel to say
in response to a heroic baby face
who seemed to be a little hypocritical
is that fair?
It seemed to be a little hypocritic.
It was a shoot comment directed at Ryan's buddies
and he knew it
and he would have to be
either a complete imbecile
or being consoled by those buddies
that nothing bad would happen to him
to make that comment in public.
And he, again, what the fuck?
In character, he is a baby face.
You think it might be a sore point
that he'd been injured a few times,
and Ryan, again, bless you.
You know the difference.
Your brother was taught by Rip Rogers
if you didn't have too much time around him.
It's just complete bullshit what you're saying.
the idea that you would bring it upon yourself to comment on anything that the top baby face in the company had to say since you were a job guy.
Yes, you were doing great job of self-promotion to get your face out there and taking some good bumps on television.
But good Lord.
This is a classic example of him thinking that he can get away with nettle and a star when he had no way.
gravity in his position whatsoever
because he's friends with the buckaroos or whatever
and no it would be like
can you imagine if
Dusty walked into Jimmy Crockett's office one day and say
yeah one of the job guys got a problem with Flair
something Flair said
and then Crockett would say well
were you able to get somebody else for TV
yeah I got it covered okay
to fuck
Ryan Nimma shouldn't have been speaking in those circles
the adults were talking.
So it's, and he would know that.
From his status in the community to C.M. Punks and other people in the company,
he would know that he's just trying to put out a cover story
that the Marx believe these days because they think this is like going to work at,
you know, Dunder Mifflin and everybody has a goddamn regular status.
No.
The job guys, don't fucking put the mouth on the goddamn top guys.
End the story.
So this is not a surprise.
Well, then Fightful Select followed up on that August 13th.
We've now heard stories from many sides of the AEW Collision CM Punk Removal Situation,
as highlighted on August...
The CM Punk Removal situation.
It sounds like a septic pumping company.
As highlighted on August 13th, Ryan Nemeth was brought into North...
Carolina before the tapings, before he was promptly sent home.
We've learned more about the words that they had recently.
According to those familiar with the situation, punk approached Nemeth when the two were at
the Chicago Dynamite, where punk was asked to be at.
Yeah, they asked the biggest dog to be in his hometown show.
And wrote about it in such an interesting way, where punk was asked to be at.
Be atch?
Punk spoke to Nemeth.
and asked him to make good on his literally the softest man alive tweet.
The two moved out of the locker room and into a hallway
where those close to Punk claimed that Nemet said he was working to get heat.
Punk believed that the tweet...
And I believe that that's what happened.
I believe that...
That's what he said.
I believe that's what he said.
Well, okay, are we going to prove this accusation now
and we'll go out here in the hallway?
We'll talk about it.
and that's what the guy said,
because that's what his buddies had told him,
I'll just say that if anything happens.
That should be the move.
I mean, that's the move now, though.
You can just do anything on Twitter.
Your mother's a whore.
What did you say?
Hey, I was just working to get heat.
Yeah, I'm working.
I'm working to get heat.
Well, I mean, it's, it's, this is not like it's a new thing.
New Jack said that to me in 1990, fucking eight.
I was just working.
Well, yeah, but we weren't working in the same place.
That wasn't working with you anymore.
so you need to
you need to let me know when you're working
but no it's not new but go ahead
punk believed the tweet was Nemeth trying to score points with his friends
and asked him to knock it off because quote
tensions were high and they were trying to move on
there you go he said that he didn't want Nemet being passive aggressive
unless they were handling it another way
people close to punk claim that Nemeth apologized
and the two shook hands
it was confirmed to us that punk didn't want Nemith
on collision
even eating and catering
much less wrestling on the show
what is he coming to just get a free fucking meal
is that how it works if you work for the company
even if you're not booked you can just show up and eat
it wasn't clarified to us if it was because of his tweet
or the relationship with the elite.
That rhymes.
In addition, Nick Hausman of House of Wrestling
reported that the reason Christopher Daniels
was kept from collision
because Ace Steel C and Punk's friend
is not allowed to collision.
Punk didn't see that as fair.
Daniels was also involved
in the brawlout last September.
So this is...
Yeah, how is any of this controversial?
Why would you expect any reactions to be any different?
While I have here, I'm going to go to the Wrestling Observer newsletter website, an article by Josh Nason.
Ryan Nemeth sent complaint to AEW executives about CM Punk harassment and threats.
In a document obtained by fightful, former AEW wrestler Ryan Nemeth filed a complaint with several executives in which he claimed he suffered abuse, harassment.
and threats, while with the company,
specifically from CM Punk,
and that AEW didn't do anything about it.
According to Fightful,
a timeline was provided by Nemeth in the complaint
in addition to a claim of emails, texts,
phone call logs,
and other records to back up his statements.
The main issue was AEW's lack of response
to any of the incidents he alleged,
allegedly had with punk, and where he instead was, quote, ordered to verbally antagonize
the now current WWE star on TV.
Wait a minute, he, so what is he saying?
He said that instead of, after punk said knock it off, they ordered him to antagonize him,
or what is he talking about here?
Well, we'll have to get to the details, because who's they?
That's the other thing.
The report stated he was seeking changes to AEW's policy and financial consideration.
He claimed he was offered in exchange for an NDA following the timeline he provided,
the information of which is below.
Wait a minute.
So he was saying, I'm complaining about the way that Punk talked to me,
but if you give me money, I'll sign an NDA and not complain about it anymore.
What the fuck?
Well, here's the timeline.
What is this?
Here's the timeline he outlined and there's more information,
and I have a few different things pulled up to try to get everything here,
because there's a lot.
This is what he outlined, according to Fightful.
April 16th,
Nemeth claimed he contacted former chief legal officer Megaparique
with concerns he would be targeted by punk.
Targeted.
Why is Ryan Nemeth believing that he was important enough
In the overall scheme of things in that organization that punk with all the other children he had to deal with would be sitting at home thinking of ways to target Ryan Nimeth.
Ross Abrams.
Ross Abrams.
There you go.
Instead of the merchandise weasel, he's the job weasel.
On June 21st, Nemith claimed that Punk threatened him in a locker room.
Also, stating Parique, the young guy.
and Tony Chivani showed him empathy for the incident.
He had to state that people showed him empathy?
He wasn't booked to wrestle for two months and said John Moxley supported him,
claiming Moxley said the situation didn't sit right with him.
On July 17th, Nemeth again contacted Perique about a lack of response to the alleged locker room
incident and felt he had been silently fired due to speaking up, which Parake assured him
wasn't the case.
He was concerned.
Okay, okay.
Hold on.
Hold on.
For one thing, he probably was silently fired for speaking up and creating another goddamn
issue when there was already enough issues amongst the people that were more important
to the company.
And secondly, what's the legal people going to say, oh, no.
We, yeah, we didn't fire you because you're a fucking wise ass.
And why is he filing written complaints over being told,
knock it to fuck off unless you want a goddamn fight?
You knock it to fuck off.
He was concerned his per-date contract wouldn't be renewed.
On August 12th, Nemeth arrived in Greensboro, North Carolina,
for collision and was told to go home.
An incident that was previously reported,
the situation was initially said by Pat Buck
to be simple travel confusion
before he later told Nemet that punk didn't want him there.
A.k.a. travel confusion.
After calling Parik again
and requesting for AEW to do something,
Nemith says he was flown to a Wednesday, August 16th Dynamite
and told to cut a promo in front of the live crowd
where he would verbally antagonize punk.
Do we remember this?
I don't
And also it doesn't say who told him that
Who actually directed him to do that
He then met with both AEWHR and legal
On that same day
Why are they humor in this fucking guy
And was unsanastised
He's not that goddamn important
You're a job guy, you're on a per date contract
You gotta, I don't care
If my main event fucking star
God damn wipes his feet on you
on his way in the door.
If you complain to me about it
and my main event star
don't want to quit wiping his feet,
I'm gonna tell you quit showing up.
What the fuck?
It's that simple.
This is not a goddamn
fucking Best Buy you work at here.
This is showbiz, Jack?
I'm sorry, I'm getting a little pissed.
He then met with both AEWHR and legal,
probably because it was a same person.
What the same day?
and was unsatisfied with their response.
No!
What the, why are they giving this this much time?
He was one of the people that spoke to outside counsel
as part of the investigation AEW launched
after Punk and Jack Perry's backstage fight
before all in.
He last worked for AEW November 18th.
His contract expired this past March.
So that's a little bit of the time.
Do you remember the story?
story that I told you about Greg
the office boy in Ring of Honor and
Charlie Haas?
Greg and Charlie
Haas? No, I don't think so.
Charlie Haas and Shelton
Benjamin had a deal with Ring of Honor
where part of what they were getting paid
on their merchandise
also and the merchandise
checks came out every
quarterly period, whatever the fuck.
And Charlie
Haas, innocently enough and
fairly politely enough,
went up to Greg the office boy and asked him one day when the royalty checks were going to be out.
And because Greg, the office boy, was feeling put upon with all the paperwork he had to do,
he gave Charlie Haas a rude answer that I can't remember verbatim right now,
but it was rude as he usually did, this guy, and it pissed Charlie off.
So Charlie came to me and said,
is that guy
who is that guy or is he important
whatever he's well I'm gonna knock him the fuck out
and so what and that's when he told me
so I just asked him about this check
and he told me that so next time he talks me like that
I'm gonna knock him to fuck it and you might recall
that it wouldn't but a few months later
that Charlie Hoss
Grizzly Redwood
fucking fucked with
Charlie Hoss's fucking hat or whatever
and Charlie Hoss knocked him the fuck out
So it was imminently possible
that something like that could go on.
So I went to Greg the office boy
because in my mind,
and I'm sorry if it's not the corporate attitude to take,
but Charlie Haas,
my co-tag team champion,
one of my main event guys,
was a lot more important
than this little fucking weasel
from the accounting department.
And I told him, I said,
Greg, I said,
I just want to let you know
that you might better
come up with a better answer to when's my check going to be ready
than whatever you just said.
He said, well, I'm busy.
I said, well, just you need to go to Charlie
and you need to say, you know, Charlie,
I've really been overworked, a lot of paperwork,
but I'm going to do those next week,
and yours is going to be the first one I do.
And use that answer to anybody that asked you about the royalty checks.
I said, because if you talk to Charlie like that again,
he's going to knock you the fuck out.
And he laughed.
I said, no, I'm serious.
Because that's when he had just started working with wrestling
and he wasn't aware that, you know, shit happens.
I said, no, I'm serious.
He's going to knock you the fuck out if you talk to him like that again.
I said, now I'll have to fire him, but you'll still be unconscious.
And he did Charlie's check and Shelton's too.
But that's the point.
What the fuck?
Who does Ryan Nimeth think he is
that he's important to cause this much stir?
There's more.
You opened your fucking pie hole about the top guy.
And yes, there's more go on.
But you opened your mouth about the top guy
and then you lose your spot over it.
This is not revolutionary.
The report stated that Chris Pack of AW's legal team
reached out to work on a settlement
for approximately three years salary.
What?
The fuck!
Hold on,
we'll be finished.
We book you per night,
motherfucker.
You fucking ran your dicklicker about our top guy,
and he don't like you,
and you're not fucking good enough
to fucking argue about this.
Be free and fly away
and the best in your future endeavors.
Wait a minute.
And if that's in late 2023,
didn't they just say his contract expired
in early 20,
2024?
March. It expired in March.
Oh, Christ. So hold on. Let me finish the sentence.
The report stated that Chris Peck of AEW's legal team reached out to work at a settlement
for approximately three-year salary in exchange for an NDA following the submission of the
timeline assumed to be in September 2020 while he was still with the company.
Nemeth said he was interested
and wanted to discuss it more
before being told it was pulled off the table
for reasons that are unclear.
Somebody came to their fucking senses?
He also claimed that Peck,
who took over for Perique,
along with Margaret Stalvey,
threatened to sue him
about the timeline at one point,
and that Peck said he would be placed in
an, and this is a quote,
antagonistic position to Mega
if the situation went to arbitration.
AEW has yet the publicly...
The situation.
What is the situation?
You made a smart ass remark on Twitter.
The guy said, hey, you want to do something about it.
You said, no, sir, I don't.
He said, well, I don't really want you around.
You're probably going to be booked here less.
I didn't even say that.
He just did it.
And that's the name of that tune in the end.
What the fuck?
I...
Oh, God.
well I wish them all the best.
How much money have they wasted on just giving it to people who had some whiny little
bitchy complaint?
You know, really also, you know, I know everyone always wants to just point out, you know,
see him punk's the bad guy.
And maybe some of the things he does is not the right thing to do, obviously.
And that's awful grammar the way I put that.
I was about saying, what was wrong with this one?
Well, what I was going to say is, look at everything he, like, the more that comes out.
And again, he's been gone a long time and still he's the biggest,
star in AEW. But look at what he was up against.
Guys like Jack Perry, who was a bigger star than Ryan Nemeth,
who wasn't a star at all on that show. He was part of some group. I don't even
remember what their name was. What group were they? Well, they just put a bunch of
underneath guys together because they went out and did hokey shit.
But again, you had guy, imagine of Hulk Hogan,
again, not to compare Hulk, uh, CN Punk to Hulk Hogan, but in terms of just the biggest
star, like, imagine of Hulk Hogan, you know,
had Mr. X talking shit in the locker room.
At fucking Johnny Rods.
Vince, fire him. I'm not working with him anymore.
But CM Punk had whoever whispering to Dave Meltzer
about the Colt Cabana stuff,
had Colt Cabana there,
had the young bucks
who he didn't have a good relationship with.
Page.
Page that turned into shooting promos on television
that Paige couldn't even pull off.
The issues with mockers.
around Rocky 3, including the big revelation that
CM Punk has never watched Rocky. I don't know how the hell that happens.
And then you hear about this. Just every
guy on the card felt they were free to do this kind of thing.
That's insane. And that's what he was up again. And you see how relieved he is
working for WWE getting punched in the face.
A lot less pressure than dealing with this kind of shit show. And it all comes
the same central problem.
Bad management.
No management.
Everything running through Tony
and Tony either making bad decisions
or just not making decisions.
And Tony not telling the legal department
are you out of your mind
if it was their idea
to get involved in this
and having control of a situation
where you just tell a guy,
look, here, no, just
you're a fucking smart ass,
you pissed him off
and you're not going to get booked anymore.
How is that hard?
to tell a wrestler.
Well, we will stay on top of this story.
Again, Fightful obtain this document.
I don't know if it's leading to something
or if anything's going to happen,
but it certainly paints AEW's management
in a bad light again.
Hey, I'll tell you, a three-year salary for one argument,
I could be there for two hours
and goddamn retire with 20 years fucking pay.
What do you think of the people who are arguing
the die-hard, not even AEW?
fan, just the subsect of
AEW fans that root for everything with the elite.
Another example of why CM Punk
was a bad hire for the company.
Yeah, because
he cost us Ryan Nimeth.
Oh, the glory.
The glory in the heights that the company
could have reached if only the Hollywood
hunk was on top.
Come on.
Well, Jim, if I asked you to place a wager,
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Or will we have more?
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So we've got that information now.
Well, speaking of information, you're not going to get any on EW Dynamite.
You know, a week where WWRWA put on a show that it was almost impossible not to think was really well done.
It was another dynamite and another episode filled up with this tournament, another episode with the Moxley stuff, another taped MJF promo from this time it was a bar, I guess, a Battle Royal with no finish.
I mean, there was a lot here. It was just, you know, someone actually texted me and he'll get a kick out of
me mentioning. It's just saying, this show is lame. It's lame. This battle royals, the lamest battle royal
I've ever seen. I think was the exact quote. But let's talk about AEW Dynamite from
Indiana. Yeah. Somewhere in Indiana. Somewhere in Indiana wants me. No, they don't. Actually,
this crowd wasn't bad.
I'm not talking about in terms of numerousness.
I'm talking about in terms of they started reacting.
It took it took them a lot longer to kill their enthusiasm
that it does most of the crowds.
They were in Fisher's, Indiana,
which now again got to Rand McNally here.
And Fishers is not as far from Indianapolis as St. Joe is from Kansas.
the city.
So Fishers is, it's right down below Noblesville.
So they're pretty close to Indianapolis.
But oh my God, my God.
The tournament, we talked about it, it's, they're going to do this every year,
no matter whether it sucks or not, the graphics to the average person are,
can you even, unless you have a lot.
an 82-inch television, can you see
what the print says on that
the block across and the block down and the circles
and the color coding and the PowerPoint presentation,
if you're a normal person watching a normal television,
can you see that?
It's the same thing when they put up their upcoming dates.
It's good that they're finally doing that, but they put them all up on
the screen at the same time in like rectangle boxes.
You can't figure out, you know, you can see maybe the word
dynamiter collision.
Where is it? When is it?
But anyway, they started the show.
This is December 4th, by the way.
A promising start.
Shelton Benjamin versus Kyle Feltcher the Proto Star.
And again, they've got the rules in this tournament
where there's no seconds at ringside.
Nobody's allowed to interfere, which means that they can control that
any time they want to.
but even though this is technically two heels wrestling each other
we've talked about Kyle having potential but nobody to teach him right
how to work in America how to work television how to get over
he knows how to do all the moves now he had somebody
to teach him and lead the man
match and he's good.
Kyle, I'm talking about. We know Shelton's good.
But
when he's got somebody to lead him
and call the thing,
then this was
one of the better matches that you
will ever see
on AEW television.
And
again, I had written
at the start of it, can
Shelton pull this off?
It's a heel match, one guy's really
green, but
But the way they set it up in the first two minutes,
Kyle's going to be the heel.
And with a shoulder block, the fans were, let's go, Shelton,
because he's not only coming off as a star,
but the subtle things that they did,
the way they started this and got into it,
they just routed the people behind Shelton.
Kyle opened up and got heat for 30,
seconds and then Shelton hit one really impressive
close line and Kyle takes a bump and rolls out
takes a powder and the fans got all over him
because he's he's a coward he's rolling out
they got a response when they both laid on the top
turnbuckle and then you know
even when they did the forearm exchange that has to be
in every match they were the guys were selling what the
the blow and the fans were
yay booing
yay boo, yay, boo,
yay, boo!
And then Shelton hits the
clothes line over the top and the people
pop. If they fight
on the floor, Shelton rolls in
to fucking stop
to count or milk the count.
And then
later on in the match, the fans
words, let's go, Shelton.
But it was
good stuff. It wasn't
too fast.
It followed along
somewhat logically.
Shelton got a submission hold
and the place blew up
and Kyle got to ropes.
And then they trade, they're
running into their super kicks and their bigger bumps
and Shelton goes into those fucking Germans
where he launches the guy and releases
him. And the people
went nuts, standing and applauding.
Three German suplexes.
and then they do a bit of back and forth,
and Kyle rolls him up with a schoolboy and holds the ropes, one, two, three.
The heel cheated.
He stole it.
And immediately Shelton pops up.
Cow's on the floor.
Perfect finish.
Got Kyle over, didn't hurt Shelton because the heel stole the thing.
It was almost like you were watching another company.
They can do it.
when they want to
What did you think?
I thought it was really good
I get
I mean it made sense
to heel cheated
and everyone's gonna have to lose
I guess at some point
of this tournament
unless Claudio just steamrolls everyone
but it felt like you almost had a moment
there where Shelton had one
the place would have gone ape shit
oh they would have
and I think also
Shelton's getting a weird reaction now
which is
the AEW fans are
being won over by him.
And that hasn't happened to too many people
if you can really think about it in a long time.
People had a preconceived notion
about Shelton based on his booking.
What he's doing in the ring
is impressing their fans.
And it's getting some of the best reactions
on their shows.
And again, you know,
a lot of, with him and Bobby
and MVP together,
a lot of these people are,
as the old flare line goes,
are just starved for the sight of real men, real stars.
So they're going to be cheering for these guys.
You know, regardless of what, because they got a lot of weak opposition.
And I know it's the tournament and you're not like that outside interference or anyone at ringside,
but I couldn't help but think while this match was happening in countless,
the heel manager's on commentary.
Isn't he always on commentary when his guys are wrestling?
Yeah.
He's not even a real manager.
That's why everyone got exciting one.
Biggie said, I'm going to be a manager.
As we got running, like, oh shit, a manager.
We don't see them anymore.
And that's another reason why that people don't think
a lot of these matches are important.
I did commentary at the desk when my guys were against job guys,
but if it was the Rock and Roll Express,
I was paying attention to what was going on.
Anyway, speaking of the tournament,
we got an update, Osprey beat Juice Robinson on collision.
Did he hurt him to?
Do he break his fucking leg?
I'm not sure how the injury happened,
but apparently after the match,
I'll get up right now.
But Juice Robinson out of action,
replaced in the tournament by a fan favorite.
Commander, right?
Or is it another one?
Was it gravity or...
No, no, this is Commander.
They both...
Space-time continuum.
That's not a real wrestler,
but the other ones both take to the sky.
Neither one of the other two.
The others take to the sky,
but this is Commander.
So Juice just got back from a back injury.
How did they hurt him?
He's had three matches.
What the fuck is going on here?
Is it, I heard some bone in the leg.
It may potentially be displaced or interfered with.
The Wrestling Observer newsletter reporting, or at least their website.
Oh, no, this is Dave Meltzer, so this is the newsletter.
Juice Robertson suffered a broken fibula
in the collision match
I guess that's the saddest part two
was on collision
we'll talk more about the ratings for that
and after the fact but
injured on collision
the fibula
that's your leg right
yes
well god damn
all right and and also on collision
oh Cody and Garcia
went to a time limit draw
that I can't believe we missed that
thrilling exhibition
mission.
So then on this program that we're talking about,
Hook came to the ring with a microphone.
He's mad at Nick Wayne, Christian Cage,
and his guys, they're the ones that got Taz,
got his dad, and he wants Nick Wayne right here, right now.
And as always happens in these situations,
the music plays, but out comes Christian Cage
and Nick's mom, but not Nick.
Now, I know Nick's mom is bigger and probably tougher.
She's now got the bosom out, too, if you noticed.
Well, there are healthy upper frontal protuberances that are being accentuated
as a result of their magnificency.
As because of Mina, she's starting the Titty Revolution.
The Titty Revolution?
I just coined that.
Maybe I could trademark it.
I'll call some.
And maybe you could take it back before.
before it's too late.
So as soon as
Christian and Nick's mom come out
in the front,
Pip Sabian and Nick come in the back
and they jump hook
and he fights back, but
Mama Wayne gets up on the apron
and he stares at her.
And then
hook turned and saw
Cage trying to sneak up on him.
But then he turned and saw
the other two heels. Nobody could sneak up
from behind this guy.
and finally after some awkward
catching you trying to sneak up on me back and forth
Christian hit him with the clipboard across the back
and they got some heat on him
and Pip got a chair and Nick got a chair
honey
Pip got a chair and Nick got a chair babe
Pip got a chair and Nick got a chair
and they whacked old fucking Hook's hand
Honey baby and then the heels left
so they whacked Hook's hand.
Do you think Hook will be able to wrestle with a, with a whacked hand?
I don't know, we haven't seen, uh, who was it right there?
Handbroken with a hammer by Moxley and their gang.
Oh, that was, uh, old hammer hand.
He missed him with it.
Oh, Brandon Cutler, Brandon Cutler.
That's right, that's right.
So he went from being ham-fisted to having a hammer hand.
So then they did some more stuff
and then the Hurt syndicate
was in the back of the arena
and this was both
effective and not effective
and at the same time MVP was yelling at Shelton
for not hurting
Kyle and not you know and
you know he's reading him out
that's not the way we do things that's not how we do it
I love you man but I'm
disappointed in you. It wasn't like he was browbeating him like old Mercedes did to
Camille and just demeaning him. He was yelling at him like a coach and say, you're better
than that. This is not what we do. I love you, but I'm disappointed in you. That part was great,
and Shelton was standing there taking it because that's what you do when you're a high level
fucking athlete, you let the coach scream at you.
And then, you know, MVP's like, you've got to get angry.
And Ashley, you got to get angry.
So they start to walk off.
And then we went from a good piece of business to, oh, Jesus Christ, more
AEW.
Suddenly a production assistant talking on his two-way IFB just suddenly
walks into the goddamn shot.
Oh, excuse me, were you guys doing something here?
Yeah, I didn't know with the camera on.
But he walks across the shot and Shelton turns around as he, hey.
And he starts slamming this guy up into the door.
Well, then some more people come, try to stop him,
and M.V.P. and Lashley come back in,
and they beat the shit out of these couple of security guys
and a production guy or whatever.
And this was both good and bad.
In terms of being good, it was the best-looking example of security and backstage guys getting a shit kicked out of them you're going to see from this company.
But the bad part was we've seen it from every fucking body else on the roster.
And it's so cliche and overdone and it's phony because it's been done phony and it's been done meaningless.
So they're having them do this to get heat back from losing
when the loss didn't hurt Shelton
and the promo from MVP
was good enough
to motivate the guy,
but then they've got to beat more people up
and commit aggravated mayhem
that's actionable in a court of law.
Yeah, when I said I wanted them to beat people up in the back,
I met the real wrestlers.
I didn't mean a stage...
Yeah.
stage, stage hands.
Yeah.
But nevertheless, they do them.
Then we got to the Dynamite Battle Royal.
Did you write down the list, Brian, of the people in the Dynamite Battle Royal that are,
the winners of this thing are supposed to face MJF for this valuable diamond ring
that they've already bought two of now because the first one got stolen.
And it's supposed to be worth a fortune.
did you see who was in this?
I did. Well, only a few people got entrances,
but there were a lot of people in there,
a lot of people you haven't seen on the show in quite a while,
a lot of, I guess you'd say, underdogs to win the thing.
Doom, doom, doon, doon, doon, do when criminals in this world appear
and break the laws of fish.
I won't do the whole thing.
Lance Archer, Action Andretti,
one or both of the Martin brothers,
Rocky Romero, Colorado,
Pizzeria Uno.
The fat fuck there
his mask has
stretch marks now.
Adam Cole
the butcher
Brian Cage, Leo Rush
Mark Davis
it was a jobber
battle royal.
And
not only does the winner
meet MJF
on December 30th for the
ring but we wouldn't have a winner until next week because the last two guys in the ring
tonight that night are going to meet next week so they started off with a 12-man jobber battle
royal and then ended up with two of the only guys that you could have figured that or the two
only guys you could have figured would have won the thing because of what they're doing
that won the thing
and now they're going to wrestle
next week to see who wins the thing.
And after a ton of
contrived and choreographed crap
Adam Cole and Kyle O'Reilly,
I know you're going to be shocked,
knocked Brian Cage and Lance Archer
off the apron on opposite sides at the same time.
Which Excalibur called the photo finish.
yes
it's not how that works
no but well
Excalibur he
you know Aubrey Ed is the only person
he knows it would be any kind of conversant
in horse racing
so
then Adam Cole
tried to quit it now
out of nowhere
RKO
out of nowhere
and then
Kyle
or Adam Cole is like
offers his hand and Kyle
tells him off in some fashion and walks out.
And so now next week, the two friends that have been at odds over MJF are going to fight
in the finals of the Battle Royal to determine, and they just entered the Battle Royal last
week, and now they're going to, one of them's going to win and fight MJF.
They've got a problem.
They've got a problem.
No one wants to see this.
And it better be Kyle O'Reilly because he's already told Adam Cole that MJF is going to kill him.
You know, they've hurt MJF.
We hear it from the listeners.
They've hurt MJF so much over the last year and a half with the booking.
All anyone wanted was him to get away from all this, kind of a fresh start.
And it's just more.
Now there's more people.
It's just more.
And I think they're going to have a, you know, I think if Adam Cole, if the end game is Adam Cole beating MJF,
it's not really helping anyone.
Watching Adam Cole and Brian Cage
go back and forth here on the apron
was the most ridiculous visual ever.
Yeah.
Because they're like the same height.
And Brian Cage is like 150 pounds heavier
with all muscle.
And he had to sell for Adam Cole
and his fucking flabby legs.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Well, you know,
they gave Adam Cole a wristwatch
for Christmas last year.
using it to hold his pants up.
By the way, no one on that show should be using a super cake
of Shelton Benjamin's going to do it the right way
when he does. Boy, howdy, huh?
Right? That's how you do it.
And we have not seen anybody
go in for reconstructive surgery,
so he's not potatoing him too bad.
Anyhow, we got another spooky
video from Julia about Jamie.
And then
what's the deal with Castor
now?
Is
I was saying, he's saying.
He's bad.
He's bad.
No, that's my key.
He's bad.
He's bad.
He's rotten.
But no, I can understand, okay, maybe they're going to switch him heel and he'll beat up
Billy Gunn to get heat so he and Bowens can fight each other or whatever.
Because he's being heelish and he's grown the mustache.
He says he's the best wrestler alive.
And he's running his mouth, as Rocky Johnson used to say, you're running your mouth everywhere.
but at the same time
it's like they're giving him
they're not giving him a push
they're doing this to make a fucking moron out of him
like has he pissed off
all of his friends and co-workers
it's that kind of push
Billy Gunn was trying to talk
Caster out of wrestling swerve tonight
Caster wouldn't listen
and Bowens is like
you're the best wrestler alive, go out and prove it.
Well, I just will, and Castor is clueless.
And then he goes out to wrestle swerve and
did his rap and the people's booty.
Go ahead.
The ending in that segment was remarkable.
Castor leaves and Billy Gunn makes a fist and a motion like,
oh, I wish I could hit that kid.
Renee just touches his arm.
The commentator, like, no, don't.
Oh, no.
What the hell was that?
But that's,
the people are booing the rap now,
which was the thing that got him over
and was the most entertaining thing
about some of their matches.
And then swerve beat him up
on the floor and then Aubrey rang the bell
and then swerve beat him up some more.
And, you know, they got a few things in,
but it didn't last long, thank God.
Swerve kicked him in the head
and beat him one, two,
three. And then
after
swerve finished celebrating
he went up
to the top rope and
this is a baby face by the way.
So
generally when a baby face does this to somebody
they fucking deserve it
he went up to the top and he
stood there while Castor laid there
staring at him but not moving like
he was transfixed like oh my God this guy's
going to jump from a great height on
top of me. If only I
could move.
And then he did the double stomp.
But
Castor, did you catch it?
That he must have thought,
well, this motherfucker's going to kill me.
I'm scared of this.
Because he not only threw his hands up
in front of his face,
but he ducked his head
so that, you know, because Swerve always lands
a foot on each shoulder, right?
And kind of pushes the guy down,
but he goes up.
He landed, as Swerve did, with his
feet on either side
of Castor's
head on the mat and had to
kind of act like he
squatted down and hit him with his
butt. Because
he ducked the double stomp.
And if you go back and watch in slow
motion, you can see it's not like
he was supposed to duck
that. It was like, oh shit!
Turtle!
So what the fuck was this?
I don't know. I think
Caster should take the Twitter
to air it off.
That would be my advice.
I don't know.
Somebody told him,
hey, that motherfucker's going to stomp the fuck out of you.
Yes,
his reputation that he's really stiff
with a move that looks like it would have to be stiff.
Or does it just mean that actually,
it doesn't look as stiff as the fridge was bonsai and people,
not nearly as unprofessional.
He hits the shoulders and goes off.
I can see what he's doing or trying to do.
I'm not saying he's never delivering a potato.
But it may be one of those things were,
maybe the guy thought he was going to have some extra juice coming behind it.
I don't know what they're doing with Castor.
But anyway, should we talk about the MG,
is there anything to say about the MGF pre-tape,
about Adam Cole and how over they were until Cole turned on him?
And, you know, more fine delivery of,
that nobody cares about.
And then we got to 9 o'clock.
Speaking of a segue,
stuff that nobody cares about.
I can't wait to see the ratings on this one.
Was the match in the,
what is it, the Cadillac or the Continent,
Lincoln Continental,
I started to say Cadillac Tournament,
between Jay White and PAC,
the longest match in AEW.
history or did it just seem like it?
That's every J. White match.
Every match goes
20 feels like it goes 30.
It was, and
again, the endless, meaningless
matches in a tournament for, and
somebody's going to say, well, they're not meaningless, it's a tournament.
It's for a belt that nobody
cares about.
With random people fighting
each other in a round robin situation,
faces versus faces, heels
versus heels. As we've
talked about, some people can pull that off,
some can't. And if you really care,
you've got to watch three different shows.
Yes, which is
that's, theoretically,
that's a marketing ploy. Well, to
understand all this, they'll have to
watch all three shows, but people are
instead opting to just not watch
the fucking shows.
And it's all
away for Tony to
copy Japanese wrestling
booking that's
drier than a nuns minge
instead of doing something
for his American television program.
So this
was two guys doing moves
back and forth to each other for what felt like
from here to eternity
whether it made sense or not.
Here was one, 15 minutes
into the match,
Pack kicked Jay White
four times in a row
in different places on his body,
and Jay White would stand up, he'd bend over, he'd staggered back, he never fell down,
and then he ducked another kick and started doing shit to Pack.
And then Pack got a submission hold on Jay White
that looked like kind of a variation on an abdominal stretch.
But Jay White had both his feet on the ground
and was squatting down with pack on his back
putting on this submission hold
the announcers are saying
is he going to tap
how about is he going to stand up straight
and fall backwards with this asshole on his back
how can you have a submission hold on a mother
when you've got him picked up in the air
and you could spike him on his fucking head
if you wanted to
oh I can't
I wish I could do something to get out of this painful hold
that this monkey on my back has on me.
But White got a rope break.
He struggled over to the ropes
doing a duck walk like Chuck Barry
in a concert in 1957.
Oh, son, roll over, Beethoven, bang bang, bang, bang, bang, man.
Sweetina 16.
Now we know more meaning behind that
song title, thanks to Chuck's exploits.
so then finally
Jay White is on the floor
where he's got the rope break
and suddenly Wheeler Useless shows up
and hits a running
Brian Danielson
fucking knee on the guy on the floor
and rolled him in the ring
and Pac picked him up
and Jay White who just got the fucking interference
from the second
that you're not supposed to have
and got blistered with a knee
that he never saw coming
he gets picked up by pack to for pack to finish him and j white grabs his
pack and hits his own finish one two three
and what the fuck
well the the knee from wheeler woke him up i guess
how much sense did that make
sense what sense
it didn't make any sense at all it's a ew
made sense to tony
then Wheeler gets on Jay White,
but Jay White hits his finish on Wheeler.
And then Marina Schaefer comes in
and Moxley jumps Jay White from behind
and beats him up
and double-armed DDTs him.
And then the heels start to leave.
But then Adam Page's music plays.
And Page comes out.
And Moxley and Paige
face off in the entrance way
like they're going to have a fucking issue
but then suddenly
a cable puller
on the camera crew in a
hoodie and a black COVID mask
walks into the floor shot
accidentally
and then puts the cable around Moxley's neck
it's fucking pockets
it's the company mascot
still in this
fucking deal
and
now as
he's got the fucking cable around Moxley's neck,
then Adam Page gets on Moxley,
and he starts fucking fighting him.
But Marina Schaefer gets on pockets to pull him off
and keeps him on the floor
until he backdropped her over the railing.
Zagia, we've established there's no backdrops
in domestic disputes, so a man is allowed to backdrop a woman.
Meanwhile,
pack and white,
Wheeler were in on Adam Page, saving Moxley from him. But Pockets got in a ring and made a comeback on
them. This is insane. They were bumping for the company mascot. And then Moxley and
pockets face off. And pockets hits him with a Superman punch. And Moxley staggers, but he
don't go down. But then Jay White, remember he was in this about 15 minutes ago.
go. He's gotten up and hits his finish on Moxley.
But wait, there's more because then
when Moxley staggers up,
pages on the apron and hits the buckshot on
Muxley. Buckshot on Moxley.
You can call me Muxley.
And he's mucked the whole thing up.
And then the heels took off and got out of there.
Well, as I say the heels,
Moxley's group got out of there.
pockets is in the ring
Jay White, who used to be a heel
and now's a baby face, is in there,
and we don't know what the fuck Paige's deal is.
And so, Brian, would you read that back to me?
I can't read it back to you again.
Adam Page seemingly has turned babyface
by just hanging around.
And Orange Cassidy getting his comeback on John Moxley,
who didn't sell his orange punch at all.
and they're still pushing Jay White.
And this is bad.
This is just bad shit.
It's bad. It's bad.
It's rotten.
Moxley and you to dress like they both go shopping for clothes at Nemo's Army Navy store.
Like, what the fuck?
This shit's awful.
And the ratings prove it.
Well, did you watch Anna J. versus Penelope Pit Stop?
I did.
Well, I didn't.
So would I miss?
You missed a match that went a while, and, you know, the crowd, the crowds never really react to these matches the way they do other matches.
And they're setting up Anna Jay and Mercedes Monet.
So Monet came out to confront her from the stage.
Oh, I saw the finish.
That's all I have to say about that.
Well, Anna J won now.
Give her her proper due.
And we have, well, we have.
I have said that that's the one woman there they should push because she's marking a,
She's young, she'll take stupid bumps.
You just get behind her and get the palms of your hands right together and just push.
Just push.
No one said, hey, it's pervert time.
No one said that.
Heavenly shades of night are falling.
It's pervert time.
So what I liked about this was when Anna J.1, she got the microphone,
and she said, I want to see Mercedes Moon right now,
and the music played with him, bam, like that.
And here comes Mercedes, and she faked her way to the ring
and told Anna Jay off, and Anna Jay slapped her,
and Mercedes started taking off of her jewelry so she could fight,
but then she looked at her watch and, up, don't have time.
And she left.
The best part was when Camille came out and got her revenge
by kicking a shit out of Mercedes.
Yeah, that would have been the best part, had that happened,
at all. So then
Renee Moxley Good was in the back with Maria May
talking about Mina Melons. Where did Tony
Storm go? She's the one that started this whole thing
with Maria. I thought that was supposed to be some big
goddamn major blockbuster, massive long-running
program based on a major motion picture starring Betty Davis.
She's the one who started the whole thing saying the word tits on AWTV.
Yeah. So where's the chief titler?
Well, you know, she works for Tony Kahn. Maybe she's, you know, resting up or as some people may call it, working for free for, you know, some other enterprise.
Hopefully her ankles are all right. So anyway, Maria was talking when Mina ran in behind her with a champagne bottle and came up behind her and grabbed her and handed Maria the champagne bottle and said, here, do it to my
face.
Is that how they phrase it now,
do it to my face?
Because, you know, I'm an older
man, I haven't been in the
dating pool
in a while.
Maybe they don't phrase it like that, but the other thing is
who the fuck would do that? You hit me in the face
of the bottle here. Try it again
while I'm looking right at you. Yes, last
time you hit me across the back
of the head, at least it saved my eyesight,
but now I'm wanting you to bash me in the
fucking face with this bottle.
I'll stand right here.
And then
Mina told her,
winter is coming.
And something else,
I don't know what's fucking,
and she walked off.
That's an AWV thing.
You'll walk off.
You don't come back to Dynamite for months.
Where's Britt Baker?
Where's Tony Storm?
Where's anyone?
Does it walk off or walk out?
And then we were ready
for the main event of the evening, Brian.
I know we didn't give this.
See, the problem was
this show wasn't any better.
than it normally is, but it also wasn't as
fucking incoherent in a hilarious
way, it was just Drek.
So we're already here at the main
event, another tournament match, Brody
King versus Claudio.
Okay. Brian,
god damn it, unless you were watching a black and white
television.
What the fuck? Have they just
hired somebody's sister-in-law to do
the spray tans?
We talked about
MJF was looking a little off-color
a few weeks ago, but Adam
Cole has become a Simpsons character
and to the point
where remember the
freeze frame that somebody tweeted
where they spray
tanned him with his knee pads
on in the right place when they slipped down
during the match you saw
he had white bands around his legs.
Yeah. They spray tanning him
right before they go out?
But now Brody King
with all those tattoos
he also had
he was orange and yellow
in varying places.
There was no
skin tone color
to anything on Brody King.
And remember, he's usually a paler white
fat guy with a lot of tattoos, but now he was
an orange and yellow
tinged fellow with a lot of tattoos.
And you can do that
professionally.
incorrectly, right, no matter what
motley skin a guy has.
There are many people
who've had fake tans over the years that people
wouldn't know it if they, you know, people
wouldn't know it at all. And then if you really thought
about it, yeah, I guess you could think about it. Well, you'd
have to pull a guy's, you know, jockey shorts down and take a look around
his balls, really, to find out if it was a fake tan or not, wouldn't you?
Yeah, I mean, for years, no one's fake tan was really in question, but all of a
sudden lately, there is...
Well, and also, you don't fake tan the ball.
So that would be the test.
I think there's a federal mandate against that.
Back to you.
Back to me.
I was talking to you.
About?
It was me talking about about balls.
Federally mandated balls.
I had nothing else to contribute.
Don't you, can you Google them?
Anyway, Claudio kicked him into balls and beat him one, two, three.
And nothing else happened for once at the end of the show.
And they only ran about six minutes.
over and it wasn't worth that.
To hell.
I'm going to be surprised if that match doesn't die in the ratings.
Well, as a matter of fact,
I guess that's where we need to go next
is talking about the ratings on this fiasco.
Well, they're not in as of now,
so we will travel to the future.
And if they're not there, then,
we're kind of fucked.
We'll talk about something else.
Then we'll come back to the past and make them up.
We shall return in the future.
All right, we're in the future,
whatever you think of that.
Whatever you think of that,
it sounded better than Chavani and Excalibur.
Let's say that.
I think maybe that was one of the outtakes
from Boston's third stage album, wasn't it?
Well, that's kind of the mood I'm in.
And it's late.
As we are recording, the ratings just came in.
We traveled through time
so we could wait on the waitings.
And finally, the waitings come in.
Well, we have lots of waitings here to talk about.
But before we get the dynamite,
because again, it goes to this bigger story.
I believe last week's dynamite,
was it the lowest rated dynamite in its regular time slot ever?
Was that what it was?
Something like that.
And we went back and said in years after the pandemic,
2021, it was 800-something,000.
22, 800-7,000, 23, 800-something-something,000.
This was 500-something-thous.
Well, Rampage and Collision both ran on Saturday,
back to back,
neither in their normal time slot.
Rampage is usually Friday night.
They didn't have the joy of being in the Friday night
10 p.m. time slot here.
They were at 6 p.m. on TBS on Saturday
for two hours.
Well, wait six o'clock on,
they should have just held off five more minutes.
Now that followed two hours of collision,
which is usually, I believe,
eight o'clock on Saturdays.
It aired at four o'clock before the show
that airs on Fridays usually.
What in the goddamn hell?
Are you just vomiting these words?
I say fie upon you, sir.
Well, let's start with what came...
What you're saying is collision and rampage
aired from 4 o'clock until 7 o'clock on Saturday
instead of the normal Saturday night 8 to 10
and Friday night 10 to 11.
That is correct.
God damn it, why didn't you say that then?
Well, why don't we start with AEW collision?
According to WrestleManiax,
AEW Collision, Saturday, November 30th, 2024 on TNT, not TBS, I'm an idiot, 4 to 6 p.m.
All of these things can be true.
On average was watched by 144,000 viewers.
Oh!
It was the lowest overall number as well as the lowest key demo number, 18 to 49-year-old males, in Collisions History.
The previous low?
September 6, 2024.
also a preemption, which averaged 157.
It is not, by the way, God damn it, Thurston, or anybody else writing these,
it's not a preemption if it airs.
It's a new time, new day, change day, change time.
But if something is preempted, that means that it, it, this program will be preempted
tonight so that we can bring you a special report.
It ain't shown if it's preempted.
God damn it, I'm sorry.
Well, what was, what was that?
that you were saying?
I was saying, what was I saying?
I don't know, you were saying it.
Well, you know, one of the things I was going to say, but I'll wait to say it,
well, I'll say it right now.
Fuck it.
This is awful, ladies and gentlemen, but it's late.
Say it.
You know, when you see on dynamite, the highlights or the low lights,
and you see Juice Robinson getting hurt and you see like things being built up on
its other shows, and then you hear these numbers.
Like, why?
Just focus on dynamite.
Why are you doing any of this?
I swear you, you stole my, my, my,
point that I was going to make there,
Mr. Pointy McStelington.
Because you see all the time
these odd backstage, just
more talk and graphics
and everything. It's what's going to happen on
collision. And it's like
word of mouth telling your immediate
family.
144. What?
In all of the United States of America,
are there not more than
144,000 people just
watching that cable network on a regular Saturday from four to six or whatever the fuck?
It's amazing.
Remember when you get excited if you heard there was going to be a block of wrestling,
a block being two shows back to back?
Like, oh my God.
Oh, yes.
There were 144,000 homes or people, maybe not homes,
but people probably watching God damn Joe Petasino's Superstars of Wrestling Block in Atlanta
in 1986.
Well, that was just collision.
A.W. Rampage, same day, TNT,
6 to 7 p.m.
As it states here, a preempted airing.
On average,
watched by 126,000 viewers.
Christ!
Once again, the lowest overall
and the lowest key demo numbers
in Rampage's history.
The previous low was just a few weeks ago,
November 1st,
which was not a preemption,
and averaged
172,000 viewers.
So 6 to 7 o'clock did worse than 4 to 6 o'clock.
I've heard of late night programs fighting sleep, but wait,
fighting dinner?
And not that we're going to...
That time slot on TBS, there was no T&T,
but that time slot on Saturday night on TBS,
when I was on that program, about, oh, 38 years ago,
was doing 4 million fucking people.
Oh, I'm looking, we'll do this real quick without too much.
Again, compiled by WrestleMania's quarter hours for this giant block of wrestling.
They opened with 165,000 viewers for Juice versus Osprey.
And then they saw Juice go down and they said, oh, fuck it.
Well, continued into quarter to, 141,000 for the match continuing.
Mariah May's backstage promo and the start of,
Johnny TV, that's Johnny Nitro, and the MXM collection, is Eminem?
I guess it's supposed to be Eminem.
That's fine with me.
I'd never speak of them.
The Eminem Collection versus Mystico and Private Party.
That match continued.
That noted three-man team.
Mystico, one of the biggest stars in the history of Lucha Libre and modern Luchelibre,
he's on the Saturday Night Show in front of nobody.
That match continued.
into quarter three, 430 to 445 p.m.
Then there was an ad break, an Anna J promo,
the Beast Mortos versus Kyle Fletcher
with picture and picture and full screen ads.
Who are you supposed to cheer for there?
109,000 viewers, that's the low for the night.
27,000 in the key demo.
Think, I mean, you say 141 or whatever it was before,
we would have more, you know, if we did, you know, blah, blah, blah,
back in the day, you'd done anything.
27,000 in the key demo, that's, that's astounding.
I mean, it's, yeah.
But we go to quarter four, continuation of Frank the lawyer versus Kyle Fletcher,
the Undisputed Kingdom Kyle O'Reilly backstage angle, whatever that may be,
an ad break, Callis and Takesha's promo,
and the Iron Savages versus the Outrunners.
Oh, boy.
Well, they moved the numbers, 154,000 viewers.
They picked them up.
That match continued in the post-match in the next quarter with FTR,
a Max Castor backstage promo,
and the start of Hangman Page versus Wheeler Yuda,
with picture-in-picture 145,000.
That match continues into 515,
whatever quarter this is
followed by a post match with the Death Riders
and Jay White
Thunder Rosa
oh she's still there
Thunder Rosa's backstage promo
Paige and Christopher Daniels backstage angle
and Mina Shirakawa
versus Layla Gray
why do you put that? Why don't you put that on dynamite
Jesus? Oh quit
157,000 viewers
Willow Nightingale's backstage promo
an ad break and Okada versus Garcia
brought the show down to
129,000 next.
But then Rampage began
at 545
Well, yeah, I guess that's what it says here,
545 p.m.
With Garcia and Okada
continuing, with
picture and picture and full screen,
151,000.
Thunder Rosa versus Harley Cameron,
Mercedes-Morraine
promo, Atlantis Jr.,
Shibata,
and Mascara Dorada.
What in the world?
What's going on here?
Versus action and dredi and top flight.
That's all one team?
That was a team.
Atlantis Jr. Shabada and Maschara Dorada versus Action Andredi and top flight,
141,000.
That continues into the next quarter.
And then picture and picture ads.
Ad break.
Patriarchy video.
Nick Wayne promo.
$117,000.
viewers. Oh.
And then the, is this the main event?
Oh, no, it's not. There's one after this.
The Beast Mortos versus Serpentico.
Didn't he just wrestle?
Yeah, I guess he wrestled twice on this show.
With picture and picture and full-screen ads and a Camille backstage angle.
What was that?
They probably made her clean the toilet.
Followed by an ad break, 120,000.
And finally, the big 645, 7 p.m.
quarter hour, the main event,
Hetchichero. Bring it home strong.
Hetchichero.
Hesichero. Versus
Commander. Oh, no.
With pictured
picture ads, 125,000 viewers.
And they gained 5,000
from the
boy, howdy, I'll tell you what, it was
a small but hearty
group that
they started, as usual,
with the highest point, 165,
I think some people had just wandered in and didn't realize what they were getting into.
But there was almost nobody watching, but they kept most of them.
They ended up after three hours with 125 and they never went below 109.
So you got to admire consistency in this for once.
What the...
And we've talked about in the recent past the idea that dynamite, the way things are going
and the
realization that everyone has finally come to
that we were already out a long time ago,
it's never going to get better
because Tony Kahn
they're catching up in ratings
to what rampage and collision were
when we were talking about
how low they were a few months ago.
AEW Dynamite Gym
December 4th, 2024, 8 to 10.06 p.m.
On average,
watched by 500
86,000 viewers.
Oh, so...
But that's up 9% from last week,
which was 536.
And that's what I said. So last week
they said, oh, it's the night before
Thanksgiving. And
then there was the playoffs.
And then it was the all-night
gas station. What?
Drones.
Draw. The drones.
The drones.
I have a competition note here
from WrestleMania.
ranked approximately number seven for the night in the key demo,
two college basketball games airing in primetime on ESPN,
all three hours of Fox News' primetime lineup,
and the challenge on MTV,
ranked ahead of dynamite.
Let's go to the quarter-off.
Who challenged who to do what there on MTV?
Well, let's go to the quarter hours,
and I will say in advance what I thought would happen
based on who they're pushing and what the main event was.
That's exactly what fucking happened.
Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. compiled by WrestleMania.
Kyle Fletcher versus Shelton Benjamin
with picture and picture.
Best match of the show.
741,000 viewers.
And that will probably be the high point of the viewing experience.
Quarter 2, 8.15, 8.30 p.m.,
the continuation of Fletcher versus Benjamin,
the Hook Live promo,
and his angle with Christian and the Patriots,
the Mercedes Monet promo, and an ad break.
Boy, that thing went south quick, didn't it?
694,000 viewers.
It could have been worse. That's only 47,000 people, and they normally do worse than that from
quarter one to quarter two, so it could have been worse.
Well, here we go. Quarter three, eight, 30, 8.45 p.m.
the Hurt Syndicates backstage, uh, beat down, it just says backstage, but that's where they beat up
people. The dynamite dozen, battle royal, with picture and picture ads, and the Jamie
Adder video.
That dynamite dozen. If, if talent was dynamite, they couldn't have blown their fucking noses.
617,000 viewers.
Ouch, there goes another 77,000.
people bringing the total from the start of the show in 45 minutes to
a hundred and twenty four thousand people we've
we've offended quarter four eight forty five to nine p.m.
The acclaimed and Billy Guns backstage, uh, just as backstage, it was their
promo and they had an argument. Swerve Strickland versus Max Castor
an ad break and MJF's bar promo,
569,000 viewers. Oh, and
that's 31 41 41 48,000 more people bringing the total that they've lost in the first hour to
100 and god damn I can't do it 31 172,000 people
well we go from there to the big nine o'clock hour nine to nine 15 p.m. quarter five
pack versus j white with picture and picture ads that's the one I thought would
fucking break the camels back.
581,000 viewers.
Okay, so they actually brought
12,000 back, but now that they've done that thing that they've done,
I wonder if people have decided, well, now we've seen everything.
We go now to quarter six, 915 to 9.30 p.m.,
the finish of Pack v. White, the post-match
with John Moxley, Adam Page, and Orange Cassidy,
Jamie Hader's promo
and ad break
Chris Jericho's promo
Oh I forgot about it
He was plugging in the Hammerstein
Ballroom events in a very cheesy
and insincere way
Yeah he sucks
And then there was this one
We didn't even talk about
The Bandito video
Did you see this?
I didn't even
Whether on an old Western set
And they're putting up wanted signs
For Bandito
The Masked Luchador
Fuck I must have thought
That was one of the commercials
I just fast forwarded it.
Well, I'm sure there'll be more where that came from.
585,000 viewers.
Well, they're holding them in there.
Well, we go now to quarter 7, 930 to 9.45 p.m.
Penelope Ford versus Anna J.
With Picture and Picture.
And the postmatch were Mercedes Monet.
Followed by an ad break.
The people may start fighting harder to get away.
504,000 viewers.
And 81,000 succeeded.
So now we are down
237,000 people
from the start of the program.
We go now to quarter eight.
I remind you we have an EAE,
I was about saying eight.
I remind you we have a six-minute overrun.
Quarter eight, nine, 45 to 10 p.m.
Mariah May's promo
in confrontation with Mina Shirakawa.
and Claudio Castignoli versus Brody King with picture and picture.
This is the one I would have bet on.
440,000 viewers.
Oh, mother of all creatures, big and small.
Six minute overrun, 476,000 viewers.
So they picked them up at the end from the all-time low of the show.
Well, the program this week that was,
scheduled after was wipeout
where their
game show that they do.
So did
36,000 people that I'll watch
wipeout and
boy did they get, they watched a wipeout
all right. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha wipe out.
440,000
so they
lost officially
from the start of regulation
to the end of regulation
301,000
viewers.
What is the...
Brian?
What kind of percentage?
Oh, fuck you.
Give it to me.
Now, if you take 440
and you put it into 741
and divide it by their...
What percentage of the people
did they lose when they started
with 741 and ended up with 440?
That's like 45% isn't it?
It is 41%.
Good Lord.
Almost half of the people
wouldn't stay to the end of a two-hour program.
Again, the women's match, as much as I talk about how much I like Anna-J,
it's the women's segment.
So people are going to not watch into Claudio.
You have to be a real dedicated fan to want to sit there and watch a Claudio main event.
But they only started the hour with 581,000 people,
which was right off of their average.
And that's, again, if you take the first quarter out, as we mentioned,
to get a real number of their audience, take the first quarter in the overrun out,
you know, we're hearing from more people than we have.
I think we used to hear it a little bit, but, you know, it was the early days,
so I didn't know what to believe and what not to believe.
But we're hearing more and more now from people who don't watch AEW.
They'll listen to the reviews.
they'll keep up with it on a different site.
You know, they'll read like what's going on,
but they're not watching.
And when you read what the lineup is for the show,
you can't blame anyone.
It's every one of these shows.
Tony is hands-on with all of these shows.
Look at where collision is.
We always focus on dynamite.
Look at where collision is.
And look at where it was.
Not even the debut with Punk.
You know, look at where it was a few weeks later.
Look at where it is now.
Look at Rampage.
Think about what that was.
Well, Rampage was the debut of punk also.
And they're making a big deal now.
They're going to be simulcast on Max.
The last thing they want right now is more exposure to this kind of product.
It drives their own fans away.
And it's brutal on anyone who's not one of their own fans.
Well, but they've done a job on the ones they had.
Yes, the punk thing hurt them.
because he brought however many eyeballs to their show,
and then they ran him off,
and then they laughed about it publicly on their television show, basically.
So they pissed those people off.
They lost the people who were mad at Vince McMahon
and his evil empire and the way he cheated and fucked around the wrestlers
and whatever, and they lost that because they ain't mad at him anymore.
He's gone, and they love the company now.
and they lost the
when they promised the sports base presentation
those were lost pretty quick
when they found out that it was going to be
statistics and numbers that Tony sees in his head at night
but not anything to do with a professional sport
in the way that it looked
because Tony's hand-picked
EVPs except for Cody couldn't pull that off
and you know
I was just good to say going back to what
Fee said earlier in that thing we played,
everything we heard about Tony was his background,
that everything in his background was something his dad set him up with.
Well, and this wasn't even something his dad set him up with
in terms of he had booking experience from booking on the internet
with his other two friends that he mentioned that always liked his ideas.
But it's an example of they've,
the one other example I was going to give was every time a big name,
has come in
that excited people
and got people to
go oh wow
the wow factor
within four to six weeks
they're part of the fucking roster
and or they're less
interesting than they were when they came
in and they lose the
goodwill of that too
so they run off
the talent that brought people
they marginalized
the talent that comes in over and then ain't that way very long,
they lost the ability to snatch
WWE fans because they're not mad at the WWE anymore
and the state of the show the way it looks over here.
They've done the best they could to run off every little segment
of 50,000 here, 20,000 or whatever,
and now it's added up to a chunk.
that's where these people are going.
You know, and, you know, another thing you would hear early on
when there were ratings issues, not like this.
You know, ratings issue was when under 900,000, you know,
like early on, well, look at the YouTube numbers.
Because that is the way a lot of young people consume content, YouTube, TikTok, social media.
If you go look, their numbers are like well off what they were.
the interest has completely died for AEW.
I mean, goddamn, our YouTube clips do better numbers than Rampage and Collision did this week.
You know, it's not like this wasn't said out loud early on that this was going to be what happened.
But those were the ratings, and this is your show.
It is? I've forgotten. It's been so long since we started it. Well, in that case...
Oh, wait, it's my show. I forgot. Oh, well, in that case, fuck you.
close this son of a bitch
hold on,
we'll have questions back on the show next week again.
We've had some audio issues.
You got questions?
I've got many questions.
I'm asking myself right now
about my relationship with this program.
Oh, well, right to write a letter to AEWHR.
It's hard to say when you say it quickly.
AEWHR and see how far you get with that.
Well, maybe I'll get three years' salary.
And then as soon as Punk went to WWE,
they pulled that offer off the table.
How about that?
Right? It was on the table in the fall of 2023, and then punk went to Survivor Series,
and all of a sudden it was, ah, we'll take our chances with you.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you could hear more of this kind of...
That sucked. Well, where's the other thing?
The drive-thru is closed.
Why don't you just play a tune on the meat whistle to play them off, Johnny?
I don't know about that, Johnny.
But the drive-thru is here, the experience is there, and we'll be back there in a few days,
and you can hear wherever you find your favorite podcast.
And again, next week on the drive-through questions,
cornyidthruidt at gmail.com.
Archive, patreon.com slash cornet.
$5 a month, get you access to the beginning of the show in 2013
and check out those archives, patreon.com slash cornet.
The official Jim Coynett YouTube channel,
just go to YouTube and search for Jim Cornett.
I'm snapping my fingers for no reason.
It'll come right up.
Cornett's collectibles, Jimcornet.com.
What's going on, Jim?
sales, but you might be late, so don't blame me. Good day to you. Don't blame him. Sue him. Sue him
from the law of Stephen Pinoo. Tell him about a gym. Well, don't sue me. Sue you. 8775-0, Steve.
Sue, Sue, Sue City, Sue. Get even with Stephen. New Law Office.com. But that's it. If there were any
audio issues on my end, I apologize. We're going to try to fix him in post, but I had some technical
difficulties here today. Yeah, there were some difficulties over there.
folks. You wouldn't know the half of it. But the fun continues on the experience. Until then,
for Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last. Tallyho!
