Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 372

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Dynamite! Plus Jim talks about the state of AEW, and answers YOUR questions about Hogan vs. Austin, ESPN's 30 Under 30 list, Jesse Barr, The Crusher, where dead birds go, ratings, drones, Tesla, and much more! Also, a short Guess The Program and From The Files: Bert Prentice! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hello again, friends! And you are our friends. Welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru with the official theme to Brian Last right there. The theme to Brian Lass, it's Brian's song. And it's as sad as the original. It's the theme to Brian. It's not Brian's song, but this show will be...

It's your show may be as sad as Brian's song here today. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last. we have a review. That'll be a mighty sad review. There's no way around that. And we also have questions and wrestling history talk and all sorts of the usual shenanigans with this man, the star of the show, Mr. Jim Cornett. I just heard your pin fall on your desk like that. That's a demerit. Jay Sharknato is going to scream at you. Instead, he was cussing me, because I ruffled my papers and ruffled his feathers the other day, because I'm a prepared son of a bitch we do these programs i've got notes i've got a letter i've got documents

and information facts to back up my shit that i say it sounds like you're ruining everything right now you just banging and clanging and ripping and stripping i'm i'm holding up and shaking and and making evident all the various preparation that i go through to to talk on these programs here and and he was because he uses the the ai and the interweil and all that stuff. Well, I've got documents here. I've got proof facts that can be held under people's noses. You'd love that.

You'd love that, wouldn't you? You'd love to be an interrogator, wouldn't you? Oh, I will get that information one way. And I will say, and when you were seven, did you indeed draw this cartoon of Santa coming down your mother's chimney? Stuff like that. That's what you'll say, stuff like that. I'll say stuff like that.

All right, this is my show. Hold on, I'm clapping my hands together now and I'm breathing on them because I've got to get the feeling back in my extremity. It's cold outside. It's horribly cold. The wind was blowing and it's cold anyway.

I got propane this morning. The propane truck pulled up the drive and dispensed the propane into my propane container and then I got to bill. And now, I know why I'm a heat miser, Brian. Now I know it's as cold as

ice, because I'm not willing to pay the price for propane. You want warmth at a price that costs more than ice. I know I just got the bill. $800 for 300 gallons of, $800 and something dollars for 300 and something

gallons of propane or something like it. It's about $3 a gallon, almost. Is that a lot? Well, it's goddamn more than it used to be. But you know, the price of things goes up, I've noticed. That's why they have that inflation calculator. Seems like people don't understand that inflation has been with us since, do you know, do you know, Brian last, what the arc of the covenant, what the arc of the covenant,

the religious artifact that people are always including Indiana Jones chasing all over the goddamn world? do you know what the original list price on that was the original list price yeah no I don't know I don't know what a denomination of a one fucking one fucking drachma one fucking now look at how much it'd be worth if anybody could find the thing we've always had inflation

but it's cold I we've always had cold too but it's getting colder it gets colder when you get older as for some reds I'm a poet and don't know it but my feet show it because they're long fellas, like Mama Cornett would say. It's because you've lost so much weight. Well, that's true. I don't have as much padding as I used to. Before, I wouldn't even turn the heat on in the house or a hotel room or anything because

oh, God, I'm stuffy. But now, I'm wearing three coats right now in my own home. I'm addicted to heat now. My hands are numb. My feet are cold. My tongue is froze. I'm getting old. So when are you getting a place in Florida?

No, fuck that. I would have to be able to figure out a way to jack this entire piece of property up on something and either have it flown or trucked or shipped or whatever to wherever because no. I forget which family it is, but one of the famous mansions, you know, before Manhattan really got built up, there were just mansions all over Fifth Avenue and all over Central Park or, you know, surrounding Central Park. and one of the mansions, the woman sold the property for a high rise to be built, but they had to re, contractually, they had to rebuild her house,

her three-story, four-story mansion exactly as it was on top of the building. And they did. And she had her own private entrance. Like, it was such a great deal. It's like Gorilla Monsuna, Bruno negotiated it. It was a great fucking deal. She got everything. I was about to say, it's nice.

to have some goddamn leverage. You can get stuff like that. But anyway, it is your show. It is your show. See, I'm still cold. And why were we just as we went on the air

and I said, save it because I'm going to ask you a question. Why were we talking about the Tesla vehicles? Oh, you said something to me. You said something about like you lost your head and got me going. Yeah, well, apparently there is a problem that I have not been aware of

of the Tesla cars leading to people getting their heads cut off? That's one of the methods of death, yes. One of the methods. Well, what are the various methods of death here? Because a Tesla is basically a big computer that you're driving. So sometimes the computer is a cooperator. The computer doesn't necessarily see things that an awake alert driver would. It doesn't necessarily see eye to eye with what's really happening.

I want to say, and if I am wrong, I apologize, but I believe I've seen this on several things. There's been a few deaths at least of Tesla drivers who either fell asleep behind the wheel because the car drives itself or they just weren't. They were trusting the car more than they should have. I'm not exactly sure. but where like it teaboned a truck and decapitated the person. Oh, Jesus. And then there are other cases, I think. I think it just happened where people burned up to death because they couldn't get...

Hold on now. I got to get, I got to get a picky with you. That's not a T-bone. That's when they run up under the truck. And the only thing that doesn't clear under the truck is your head. Right, but it's not from front or behind. I think these instances were from the side. Yeah.

Not a Jane Mansfield type of thing, but a fuck. sideways type of thing. No, what other famous, not a James Dean kind of situation? Or a Jan Berry kind of situation. What other famous Dead Man's Curve? Well, I was about to say, nobody comes back from Dead Man's Curve.

But here was why I said, well, save this and just tell me on the air, because now I'm completely fucked up, because I thought the Teslas were the electric cars. See, think about this. The only car that I bought, in a long time. Twenty years was, well, two for Stacy in that time,

but she picked, hers is not a self-driving car, but it has the screen and it has the sensors and it has the cameras and it has the beeping and the alarm and whatever the fuck, and if somebody tries to veer over, it will move for you and or it will break for you

if you're coming up too fast on a thing too close that it feels, whatever, and it scares a shit out of me and I don't want to be anywhere in it. I only, she'll drive me from one side of the subdivision over there back home. And that's about, because it,

it scares a shit out of me. Is she breaking that much? Is it such a frequent issue? No, it just, when it, that it will do that. Then I don't ever know when it's going to do that on its own. And that it has the capability of doing these things.

She said, bro, it broke. It broke. It breaked. Whatever. It did that thing on the interstate on her one time when this guy fucking swerved over in front doing something. And she said, whoa, you know, like shit, that happened quickly. And but it dings and all the cameras and the angles and the screens as big as a goddamn drive-in movie. And I can't stand that shit. Tesla is known for their big screens in the car.

But that's, but that's not even. a self-driving car and it scares the shit out of me. I can't imagine any human being that was concerned with their self-preservation riding in a car that was driving itself and you didn't have anything to do with it. Well, you see, I think you have the option to drive and that's the other thing. What really scares me is I have heard from friends in the past who got stuck in their Tesla. They couldn't get the computer to open. I believe it was just like a couple of deaths of people burned up in their car

because there was some kind of accident and they couldn't get out of the Tesla because whatever happened triggered the wiring or whatever I don't know what happened but they couldn't get out. What the point is, fuck the car try to be smarter than me

if you do not have your feet on the pedals and your hands on the steering wheel and sitting behind the fucking controls of the goddamn thing with your eyes open, you ain't driving a fucking car and if you or I, either one, ain't driving a fucking car, I ain't riding in the fucking car that we're in. Because that's ridiculous.

And they shouldn't allow shit like that. I think it ought to be a goddamn deal that if you see one of these self-driving son of a bitches where he's taking a nap while the car's doing all of its own thing, you ought to be legally allowed to run them into the fucking median. Have you ever seen those videos like people on the highway and they film the car next to them driving by and it's a Tesla? and the person's asleep at the wheel, they're like the sleet is, the sleet, the seat is reclined. Yes. And like they're passed out.

Well, and here's the thing is that, and I've got a caveat I'll give you in a minute, but no, just no, there's no replacement for a human being, and even then, many of them are not qualified, as we see daily in the country and the world, to operate heavy machinery or a mechanical vehicle of any kind but you've got to have a human

and control of it if nothing else and for liability if the automatic car while you're asleep runs over somebody who gets sued fucking you in that case I keep my ass up for that fucking trip that's why I'm saying what the fuck is the liability on shit like this

besides it being scary and bullshit and I've driven as we have established I think before like two million miles in my life and there's very few incidents and I think besides a

one car accident being me and another fucking bumping into the ass end of the guy nothing was ever my fault and very few accidents and I've I'll take that fucking record. Right? But what the fuck?

But do you know that for people who live in Charlotte or Columbia, South Carolina, or anywhere in between, you'll know what I'm talking about. If you were there 40 years ago, I don't know what the traffic's like now. But if you left Charlotte about 4 o'clock and got on I-77 going south to Columbia, well, there wasn't many, much traffic. and it was a straight shot. And we were just doing the last show we talked about

where I said, I was always sleepy during the day and I drove the boys at night so they could drink and they usually drove during the day and I'd sleep in the back seat or whatever, right? Me and Bobby Eaton are going to Columbia. And at the time, Bobby didn't have a driver's license, right? And because of, you know, the very... North Carolina was more anal about tickets

than a lot of other states. and he didn't have a license and I was fucking sleep I could barely keep my eyes open he said corny take a nap us what we put the cruise control on he sat there

in the passenger seat but held the fucking wheel and I lain back and took about a 15 or 20 mile nap Jesus now that's scary and but no because you know he was right there and there was nobody on a fucking road

and it was straight there was no you know what the fuck now that's responsible fucking tag team work in a car but these self-driving things have you

know have you heard about remember the lawsuit this is why you again you can't have these self-driving cars because they're smarter than the fucking stupid people in them the lawsuit

against some I don't want to say Winnebago because it wasn't them I'm slandering them but some recreational vehicle type company, the campers and the you know sport vehicles right

the fucking lawsuit was over the idiot woman put the cruise control on and then got up and went in the back to make a cup of coffee what to make a cup of coffee in the car no and it was a guy was

camper. It was a, what do you call them, the RVs? And it had cruise control for the speed, right? For the, you say, okay, I'll go 50. And you set the cruise control, you're on 50, you don't have to have your foot on a pedal. Right. She thought that it was going to take over now, and she went in the back and goddamn start making coffee in the back of the camper. While the cruise control is on it, the first time the fucking interstate turned and she didn't. they went off the goddamn oh my goddain wheel there off the side of the road

and boom boom you know and yeah so they had to start explaining to people who'd she sue I don't remember whether it was her or her family somebody that's better on to Google than I am this was years and years ago

before there was a self-driving car that's the thing it wasn't like she thought she just bought one kind of car this was years ago when it was just a goddamn cruise control on the speed and she got up and thought she was just going to I'm on autopilot now I'll be back here so you can't fucking give people technology like this

because they don't deserve it anyway well that was auto news and Jim on the topic of auto news how can people drive on over to Cornett's collectibles and get their favorite collectibles I'd prefer nobody drive on over. I don't think the feather bottoms want company either when they're in a last minute scramble to fucking fill Christmas orders.

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if you missed your last-minute crack at it, Jim Cornett.com. That does not need theme music. No, no, that was not the theme music of Jimcoronet.com. That was an introduction to the next segment of the show. Oh, good. We're moving on. That was leaving the castle of Cornett

and getting back on the golden road. You know, what I'd like is that I always, when I was a kid, wished that some way or another, that we could construct or reconfigure the garage at the castle to where that it would come out of a fucking secret hatch in a hillside

like the Batmobile. That's the dream. You know, 12 miles from Gotham City and it's a dirt road. Is there a, was there even in the 60s, was there a dirt road within 12 miles of New York City? Within 12 miles of New York City, meaning... Well, because Gotham City is New York City, right?

I mean, it's just, you know, correct. We all know that. And there's a sign that says, Gotham City 12 miles, and he's out in the woods, and it's a side of a hill and a fucking gimmick. traffic blocking thing that flips up and down and the road is not even paved. How you get in a way with looking like you're at Hooterville 12 miles away from New York City?

No one ever figured out that Batman's driving out of some weird tunnel underneath Wayne Manor? Well, that's what I'm saying. How can Wayne Manor be in a place? That giant estate with the beautifully manicured grounds, how can it be in that remote location that these things can happen just out in the middle, of nowhere, 12 miles, as I mentioned. When we used to drive to New York for fucking Ring of Honor show, Stacey used to have to start handing me Xanax,

fucking 60 miles out, just so that I wouldn't have a fucking conemption fit trying to navigate that goddamn open-air pinball machine. So that's a loophole there, isn't it? What's a loophole? How about for that matter? I mean, when Lucy and Ricky moved to the country and they were in Connecticut,

they were raising chickens down the road from where I fucking lived in the middle of that goddamn lunatic asylum. And it was the country in the 50s. What happened? Huh? Civilization. Well, fuck them.

Any other things? They put the fucking Merritt Parkway in I-95 on top of Lucy and Ricky's chickens. That's the worst place in the world, the Merritt Parkway. If there's no one on it, it's wonderful. If there's one other car on it, you're fucked.

Oh, yes. And then when you get trapped under the bridge, but I digress. So we're moving back to Gotham City. So I'm just saying there's a loophole there somewhere. Where in the world did they find that, but it was a cool entrance, an exit? It's an entrance.

And you never saw the Batmobile going in the tunnel, though, did you? Not that I recall. no. There's another thing. Well, you would think with a hit television program that was on two nights a week on network when it meant something, that they would have spent the money to have the fucking car come out of the tunnel and go back into the tunnel. I think no one was ever like, you know, Batman has that robin. Well, who's that billionaire, Bruce Wayne? Why is he hanging out with a boy? Oh, no, no, no, no, come on now. That was explained. Who's that boy? That was explained. he was the youthful ward

of Bruce Wayne millionaire playboy because every millionaire playboy that was out trying to get all the pussy also had a young boy as a ward when did that go out of fashion the word ward word word well about when

Bert Ward took it over and then there was no man here was a guy who's named Ward who was hired to play a ward he pretty much closed that fucking chapter up You couldn't do it after that. But no, you never get a ward anymore.

I think it's got something to do with goddamn custody laws and potential child protective services rulings. Well, Jim, on that note, you don't hear too often about mental wards anymore. But if you did, perhaps you would find the creative staff of AEW, AEW Dynamite, another week, another dynamite, another, another, another. December 11th, AEW Dynamite. Oh, boy.

I mean, it's not even as much fun as it used to be if you're watching it to laugh at it. Because now not only is the, the stars are gone, the life is gone, the crowds are gone, and now, I mean, there's still things to make fun of because, boy, howdy, especially in a couple of these, but it's gotten sadder, hadn't it? It's like you're watching, you know,

somebody suffer the death of a thousand ratings points by their own hand, all at the same time. And they're about to go to Max, and, you know, that's really what the deal. I actually heard from someone this week, a television executive who was saying that. What the deal really is, it's not about them being on TBS.

Let's see how much longer they care about TBS. It's about Macs. It's about the streaming platform. But the interest is in there, even amongst their fans. And we said it before, even if you want to dismiss television ratings because of people dropping cable, look at YouTube. Look at their videos on YouTube, how they perform today versus several years ago. The audience is only bigger. Like, you don't have any drop-off rate on YouTube. It's about the interest and the booking. And it's sad. You see those fans. They had a good crowd there. It was their first time in the show. that building, and they were dead silent at times. There's no energy, and this Moxley thing has sucked a life. Oh, boy. As I said it would, not just out of the show, but even out of the fans. I didn't think the fans were going to reject this to the level they have. They hate this.

Well, and here's it. This was not like the Nassau Coliseum or, you know, a major metropolitan, the Los Angeles Forum, a notoriously jaded crowd. It's Kansas City. It's Kansas City they pop for Bulldog Bob Brown. But winter was coming and that's all the, you know what, winter is coming. It was Kansas City. It is brutally cold in the Midwest this week and all the people were wearing thick mittens.

That's why you couldn't hear them clapping. And they started this thing off. Can I just say one thing though? Because I don't remember when it was. At one point something happened that the fans got a little excited for. and some fans must have stood up because the only thing I saw was in the back one of the security guards tell people, sit down.

Sit down. Man, they finally got up and got excited and this guy's telling him to sit down. Sit down. Wake up, wake up and take your sleeping pill. When they started the thing with a sleeping pill, again, like you said, the Moxley and company,

you know, writers of the new Purple Sage whole thing. They walked through the one side of the arena with people in it. It was everybody but Claudio. You got Wheeler, you got Pack, you got Marina Schaefer and the plumber himself.

And then here comes light switch, Jay White, and then they gave pockets the second entrance after Jay White. Poor Jay White would be like, what the fuck, even he's got to realize. that he's been fucked in this company.

They brought him in and tried to push him without success and for obvious reasons as really a top heel and bleh but he and Juice as a tag team

could have been entertaining for fucking weeks weeks weeks weeks but we hardly ever got that then one or the other one's been hurt then they bring him back out of nowhere and now he's a baby face and he he's he enters before the fucking mascot and he's left on his face every fucking week

so plumber and pack versus light switch and pockets and that's the way they started the show and we were by the time they were done with this we're going to be about 25 minutes into the fucking thing but they immediately the four way into the floor surprise. Nobody ever starts a match here like that. They stay on the floor in a four-way, doing almost nothing for three minutes,

and then they got in the ring, and the referee rings the bell to start to match. That was awkward. When he all of a sudden rang the bell, the place was silent. Like, what? Well, yes, because we're like, what we thought that had happened a while back because they've been fighting for fucking ever.

What is the matter? with the people in the wrestling business act like they've never been in the wrestling business before and they don't know how it works, what the rules are, what the fuck you do. And then Moxley and White traded chops. I have observations

not play by play because this is ridiculous. Moxley genuinely believes that he is the toughest man on the face of the planet. That's right. And somebody has to. Yeah, there's got to be one person and he's it.

But are you seeing now the gyrations and the twitches and the muscle spasms he's going through to try to look like some kind of unhinged psycho serial killer? Well, there's that, and when we talk about it, we'll talk about his promos. It's like he really has a lot he wants to say, but none of it makes any sense, none of it goes anywhere. what is he talking about? He gets amped up and then he slows down and he's a mess. And this is all him.

This is all him. Well, no, no, this match also. Some of it with Pockets is embarrassing in his work and his appearance and everything, but he's supposed to be a joke. But Moxley is in there in his own way looking and working just as badly

and he's supposed to be the world champion. But then the mass is, Scott's getting two counts on the world champion. And the fans were just, at one point, they were sitting there, they were kind of staring in silence or whatever. And then on the screen, they got a shot of Christian Cage and his bunch in the sky box, and that got a pop in the middle of the match going on. Because they were like, oh, hey, somebody we might like somehow.

So none of them. none of body. None of body. None of these people or nobody in this match knows how to fucking set up or execute a fucking hot tag. They got heat on pockets and in pockets super kicked Moxley and they both staggered phony without going off their feet really

and pockets just turned around and cold tagged white and Moxley tagged cold tagged pack at the same time. and but then pockets had tagged while he was standing on his feet, but then he rolled out on the floor and laid there like he'd been shot by a cannon. While White made his comeback, but then the two heels took over on White, and then fucking idiot is still laying on the ground. Oh, Christ!

But when they're actually in the ring beating on him, they put him through a goddamn table and he'd be up on his feet in 15 seconds but when he stands up and tags out suddenly his goddamn respirator fucking quits functioning to the break and then they came back they got heat on fucking white now we've got a second set of heat and it's long and i just started skipping ahead at double speed to the end to see can will it ever end? And we got two more simultaneous cold tags

and then they traded forearms every goddamn match is the fucking same thing and then they did a spot and I'm talking about pockets and Moxley they did a spot where

somehow Moxley finally took a bump for this fucking idiot and then hits the ropes, Pockets does, and comes running for the big wind-up and a big football kick, he's going to punt Moxley's head off. And he whiffed right past him. And Moxley sold that. He won't sell being hit by a goddamn mid-sized late model SUV, but if you fucking

swing your foot within a foot of his head, he'll sell it. And it was so bad even, well, oh, goddamn. Who'd they have on color? It may have been Nigel. Nigel. With half of mine said, well, I don't know if he got him full force. It may have been the wind.

So, I mean, if he had tried to just sneak it in, it wouldn't have been some bad, but he hit the ropes and he ran 10 feet and he drew way back and he kicked right past him with everybody's, attention on it. God damn. Okay, I said we weren't going to have too much fun making fun of it, but this shit, I said there was exceptions.

And then I wrote this will not end, because they did some more, and Pockets was hitting everybody with those buggy whip arms of his that, quote, Jerry Lawler in 1975, looked like mosquito bites on a strand of spaghetti. And then suddenly

they're having a man, Pockets is going fucking hit Moxley with another one of Roman Reigns's finishing moves and suddenly out of nowhere hangnail Adam Page just tackles Moxley and gets on top of him and starts hitting his own forearm and Moxley's forearm and a lot of fake punches in the area of Moxley's head but pockets is he shocked at all this so he turns page around and page and pockets gets in a so pockets gets in a fight with a guy that just tackled a guy that had been kicking his shit out of pockets but then j white gets mad at page and he and page start having a fight and but pockets is still up so pockets goes to superman punch moxley

and Moxley moves out of the way and pockets hits white instead, but he actually missed him again. By the way, I double dog dare anybody. You ain't got no hair on your balls, as Bobby Eaton used to say. If all of you out there who have the capability that the DVR gives you of slow motion, I could hand out $1,000 every time that fucking Orange Cassidy's fist came anywhere near a motherfucker's face

on that goddamn flaswater fucking Roman Rain's finish rip-off that he does and I'd still be a wealthy man he misses it every time so Pocket Superman punched

white his partner in this thing accidentally when Moxley moved but then Pocket Superman punched Paige the guy that ran in, apparently to help his team, and then White grabbed pockets, who was his partner in this thing,

and gave pockets his finish. And then while everybody was down in the ring except for Moxley who had left and had rolled out on the floor with the other heels, everybody was down, the fans were staring, and then Moxley and all his heels rolled back in, and kick the shit out of all the baby faces who were laying there

haven't just kicked the shit out of each other and the fans did not want to see more of the Moxley beat down stuff so they groaned audibly yes and then then they're doing it and finally the fans came back with fuck you you to fuck you that's a fucking flunky in this and he's like I just say fuck you to him and this was the biggest goddamn mess I've ever

seat in my life. And we must skip ahead a little bit there was something else in the middle we'll come back. Because when then Moxley and his bunch just walk off and leave, again the baby faces just flat of their

faces laid out, stretched out, pissing their mouth while they're down there. What the fuck? And then they did a promo after the break and some other stuff. They come back and that's where Oxley was doing that promo. I'm a marked man.

I'd have it no other way. What? Who's marked you? Who's marked you? Who? You're a mark? In his mind, he wants all these opposing forces to come at him so that he can turn them back. And he is a mark man.

I'll agree with you there. I'm a marked man. Nielsen keeps trying to kill me. fucking Nielsen, but in turn, I killed him. And I mean, here's the thing, he's drooling and he's snarling and he's doing the twitch and he's trying to do

a little homage to every crazy guy that's ever been in wrestling all the shit they did all at the same time. And you can believe that this guy is unhinged. You just can't believe that he's a good wrestler or he's a big badass that's going to really fucking kill people. You, you, you, I think,

he's, he's drooling and sniffing and twitching and shaking and he's saying shit that is mostly incomprehensible. So the question, is, is he drunk as one of the fucking people later on in his program has alluded to his time in rehab? So that's open season now.

Or is he tweaking? You can call me Dick the Boozer. He just found a new profession. He's not the Dick the Boozer. He's not a plumber anymore, folks. He's the world's most dangerous drunker to Dick the Boozer. The world's most dangerous plumber. Have you?

Yeah, the promo makes no sense. Stopping this, pal. A kid says we go along. here. And then he kept touching himself like Lex Lugar back in the day. But that was in a middle of a match. It was so weird. Well, no, he was a, no, Lugar, on promos, he had a nervous for the people who haven't been around for 35 years and were paying attention to this. Lugar had a nervous habit when he was doing promos in the TBS studio at the podium. He would pick with one hand while he was pointing with his right hand, he would reach down and he would

pick the tights off. He's loosening the tights from his. that are squashing his dick, kind of. That would be probably the easiest way to describe that motion, right? I'm pulling these things off because they're tight on my cock. And it wasn't really a broad type of motion, but you could tell it was there if they happened. So they started shooting him higher up. But in this case, Moxley is leaning over at the waist,

and he's drooling and slobbering and having a meltdown. And with both hands, he's graphing. and his pants and pulling him off his dick. And apparently in this exhibition, the heel world champion challenged the two baby faces that he just left laying and the heel that he just left laying also

to a four-way at the pay-per-view. So the world champion wants to now fight these three other guys and even if one of them, according to their own rules, even if one of them were to beat the other one, and Lord knows they've been left on their face every time we see him, then he'd lose the belt and nobody has to beat him. So which may be maybe a godsend after all,

but also, why would you want that match if you're the heel champion and why would... What's happening here? And when he screamed at it out, he put all the emphasis on fatal. He's like, I want to fadeo! Far away. Far away.

Yeah, I don't know. I get when the baby faces all started beating each other up, the fans, they already didn't want to react to anything. Now they didn't know how to react, because they kind of, you know, the people that are there, the people that are susceptible to rooting for an Orange Cassidy, they didn't know what to do. He's beating up the other baby faces in the match.

And then mocks me and then go in for the beat down again. It's awful. This Death Rider stuff, I don't think there's anything that is united the hardcore AEW fan and the AEW dismisser more than the people who say the Death Rider stuff needs to come to an end and John Moxley should never ever be involved in creative ever again. Well, and his or anyone else's.

Well, no, I think if he does go back for a stint at the farm that maybe if they do plays and things he might get some input there but and then before we go backward I got to go ahead again because it tied

into the same angle somehow remember Paige he Christian Cage is saying that if Page hadn't fucked up and lived up to his part of the deal that I'd be the world champion so we put that that deal has never been goddamn actually spelled out to people.

They didn't even do a graphic like the Continental Classic chart where you can't tell what the fuck's going on anyway. It looks like somebody fired buckshot at a sheet. But Cage was in the skybox reacting to the whole exhibition we just saw and that Moxley wants a four-way. and he's got a problem with everybody in the match and he wants Moxley or whoever wins or whatever

and he's going to send Moxley back to rehab. Of course, it was Christian, the Dead Parents Society president that also bring up when a guy's been in rehab. So at this point, Christian has been addressing the people in the front of this luxury suite or whatever they call it.

It didn't look too luxurious, but we are in Kansas City. So at some point, you have to, you know, relinquish some standard. I'm just kidding, Casey. But what he did was he walked from the front of this box area, sweet area, where he could address the crowd and they could see him. He walked back into the room and then turned around and started talking again specifically, so that was the spot where they could get them. the camera shot of Hook

showing up on the other side of the door behind him through the window in the fucking door. You see what I'm saying here to you, Brian? I hear what you're saying. I saw it actually happen, yes. Yes, and did that not look as awkward as fuck because there was no reason for him to back out of the lighting and everything. Oh, and then he starts talking again, so you see Hook standing there.

And in Hook breaks the glass out of the door so he can open it from the ends and look like he had some experience with that too. If I was Taz, I'd be keeping an eye on that young man when he goes out late at night. But then he jumps on cage and they start fighting and they, he beats on him all over the box and I would have to think at some point

if I was one of the building representatives, unless I had Tony Kahn's credit card on file, I would have been somewhat offended by shit they did. did in my fucking suite, wouldn't you? Yeah, especially if they're the only people who have a suite at that event. Well, Jesus Christ, it wasn't just knocking over some

popcorn and shit. They were slamming each other into the custom cabinetry, and but anyway, Pip Sabian and Nick Plain ran in and hook, you know, pickled them and ran off and and

so again, that's, we're half an hour into the show and this has just been just chaos with everybody beating everybody up and with Christian Cage getting the title shot if they get the belt off Moxley if someone like Darby wins it if anyone wins it and they immediately go to Christian Cage after all this that would be a problem so how long is this going to last

he's been doing this for months now I wonder what there was when's Darby get his title shot Darby gets a title shot doesn't he well that's that's the thing no he remember he gave it up to fight Moxley when Danielson was okay anyway and then wrestled on the same show and I don't know

but one would think out of this band of Mary pranksters that as odd as it sounds Darby Allen may be their best choice to be the next fucking champion just in terms of if people are interested in him because the rest of these dumb fucks have just nullified themselves into the ground.

Well, you know, Jim, when you nullify yourselves into the ground or when you are a wrestling fan watching John Moxley's death riders put you to sleep. Yes. Like Moxley putting you in a choker, putting you a plastic bag over your head, or trying to pour Drino, all the usual Moxley antics. You may just want to go to sleep and give up on wrestling for the night. You need a good mattress. You need a great mattress, and I'll tell you what,

that's why you and I have them. Boy, howdy, their friend, Brian, because we need to fall asleep. We need all the help we can get to sleep after we have to watch these nightmares of epic proportions. But you folks out there, let's say that life is beating you down,

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Yeah. Well, let's go backwards now because we skipped over trying to keep all the programming in a understandable flow there. we skipped over okay last week I missed it because I was zipping I thought it was a commercial obviously or something because I didn't even know it was on until you mentioned it in the ratings analysis but this week I was looking for it the bandito video Brian I don't want anybody to ever make fun of any low budget video that I did and smoky mountain wrestling with a... Behind the dumpster? Well, me being my own camera. There was no video there.

Me being my own cameraman and or maybe Brian Hildebrand running camera and having a radio shack microphone and or the low-budget extravaganda. Extravaganzas that Jerry Jarrett and Randy West used to do in Memphis or... Holy, this was the hokeyest. They've got brand new cameras and they obviously have a fucking budget because they were, you know, at least able to rent this roadside fucking

old West Town. I mean, I don't know where this is. Probably one would think out west somewhere, but they used to have an old West Town down 65 from Louisville here in Kentucky and Kentucky's not part of the Old West. It looked pretty cheap. But it was really, it wasn't even,

this wasn't even pigeon forged Tennessee level, you know, resort area old Westtown. Oh, look, Mommy, there's a blacksmith. And it was obviously closed because there was not a human being inside except for these four outlaw wrestler-looking fucks dressed up as cowboys. and they've got wanted posters out for bandito

and they're acting and talking like they're desperadoes or, well, actually, they're not the desperadoes. I'm mixing up my Western terminology. Like they're the law that's going after this desperado. You know, they say he's a fierce one. They're making a Western movie. these fucking morons are making a western movie to if bandito was cool

or did have any kind of cool personality or did do any cool moves they've hoaked him up so bad now this this looked like when the brady buncher the partridge family would go on location to an amusement park for a couple of episodes right yeah it was just

it bandito rides into town on a fucking horse the cowboys try to arrest him and Bandito beats him up but it was shot not only was it wasn't shot in real time it was a montage video of him beating them up

so that they could shoot it close and the camera angles wouldn't reveal that they weren't taking bumps on the goddamn dirt street they had crash pads out you could tell he never saw anybody hit the fucking ground and the whole thing was

you would probably see a oh god damn it what was the old was it gun town on the river they used to have a western place now as I said not far from here something like that where they would actually do a re

and they had one in Gatlinburg Tennessee now that I think about it an old West Street shootout when I was like nine years old. I saw one down that you saw better bumps from the fucking Yehu's working at the amusement park.

And it looked more real. So Bandito kind of beats these people up and then rides off on his horse. And there's a line there somewhere about him and the horse he rode in on. And this had to be the fakes thing I've ever seen on wrestling.

And what? Are Cowboys cool now in Hokie, roadside, Old West, you know, nostalgia towns to the key demo? Cowboy, mask muted Cowboys? Because he doesn't talk, right? Is he from Mexico?

Well, yes, he didn't speak in this, and I don't know that I've ever heard him speak. If, you know... To the people who say AEW needs to do a better job of introducing people, They need to do vignette videos. They need to do things. Every wrestling company has successfully done him for at least 40 years. There's an argument that some people are making that this was great because that's what this was.

Now I want to see Bandito once he gets off the dirt road and gets off that horse. Wait a minute. Maybe he can mozy or a tope his way right into our hearts. People are saying that's what this was? This is Tony trying to do like a W-Dub. style in the day Razor Ramon walking around Miami yo chico

my name is El Bandito that shit was borderline phony to be quite honest with you too but it had a fucking guy who could talk with charisma and it was shot professionally and it wasn't done in a goddamn closed up fucking

roadside amusement park it this was so fake fake and the acting wasn't good from whoever these cowboys or deputy sheriffs or whatever were and again is the key demo clamoring

for a Zorro remake out of this supposedly cool flashy Mexican Lucha Libre star that they're taking him to gun town on the river I don't understand I thought the height of the westerns era in the United States,

at least in pop culture, was the 50s and 60s. Was it not? I would say so, based on television, yeah. So what the fuck are they doing here for the kids? Zorro did promos. I wouldn't say that so. Well, and Zorro did speak. Okay, all right.

Anyway, I've beaten that horse he rode in on enough. Would you like to go now to the tournament match they did between Will Osprey and Claudio Castiagnoli. It's the Continental Tournament Round Robin. Three people have six points now. I saw on the fucking crap. And you've got to think there's, in the old days when there was 10 million people and a bunch of them were guys 18 to 34 watching wrestling on Monday nights of some kind or another.

raw or nitro, right? If they'd have showed some shit like that, half those guys were people that had already drunk a six pack of beer just waiting to see Austin come out and stunter somebody. And they'd been sitting looking through bleary eyes and what the fuck is that? Yeah, it's not like brackets, it's just, you know, here's points. Yes, well, when you also, I'm sorry, but when you have a match in a tournament where if you lose the match, you're still in the tournament, you've automatically lost most people, haven't you? Not even lost them as confused them, but just lost them to give a shit.

Again, this is something from Japanese wrestling. I don't think that American wrestling fans, I don't think that sort of system has really worked yet for American wrestling. Despite the success of the Continental Classic last year. Was it successful last year? I think the ratings may have gotten a little bit better for like a week or two. Good Lord. The first week or two? Yeah, the ratings got better weekly, very weekly.

No, but I'm just, nothing's getting better about their ratings right now. I don't think this tournament's going to help. But when you're taking random matches amongst heels or baby faces or just cold matches in general, and you're having a tournament and then if the person. loses the match, he's still in the tournament, you have lost the most people to give a shit about that particular fucking match. Well, he can't grieve forever,

he'll live to fight again, that type of thing. It's just people who want to see these random fucking matches with guys, you know, doing a bunch of the same shit for no fucking reason. And

they rang the bell on Osprey and Claudio and Osprey did a flip and a dive to the floor in the first 10 seconds. And then I saw the Rick Knox was the referee, the corpse. So I wrote down, I bet this will go forever. So I fast forwarded the son of a gun. And I was right after 13 minutes of this, Will Osprey won with a jackknife, one, two, three.

but then Claudio jumped him and beat him up and went outside to get a chair to come back in and beat him up some more and Darby's music played for five seconds and Darby came out with a baseball bat and Claudio just hopped off and hopped off here comes like Claudio like a rabbit tail hopping down the Claudio trail hopped the rail and ran off and when he did that

then Darby turned around and fucking left and Osprey I thought would have probably been a choice to be their next baby face champion but is he now just another one of the boys where he's just having

these 15, 20 minute matches with everybody and he had Felcher beat him and hey, he beat Claudio, but then Claudio beat him up. He's one of the guys now, isn't he? Yeah. They had a moment there where, even with the bad booking,

the fans were treating him differently, they were popping for him differently, and since the MJF stuff, they did the stuff with him and Fletcher, maybe some good wrestling, but, you know, they immediately used him to elevate someone when he still needed elevation,

and now he's in this tournament. So now you're just seeing him against, Oh, you put anyone in there with Claudio for 10 minutes or more, and it's going to cause people to want to jump off the roof. I'm sorry. I just think that's the reality of Claudio. And Osprey's not special. He's just ricochet is not special.

Rikosha came in. And, you know, same thing. But I think Osprey's now become just one of the AEW guys. Dave Meltzer said this week something like, you know, no one books the matches. The guys decide what they want to do in a match. There's no one saying, Like, you should, you know, this should only be five minutes and you should go over strong.

It's just everyone doing what they want. And I think Osprey will do the stuff he wants and he'll be exactly where he is. Well, funny you mentioned the other guy because Rikoschet followed this up. He was in the back with René Moksley Good. And I wrote, oh God, he's going to talk. And he was talking about Brody King and his tournament match tonight. but what was the comment that they were making on Twitter about ricochet in his interviews?

This is why WWE never gave him a mic. They should have gave him that Twilight Zone episode surgery where the guy bet the other guy that he couldn't refrain from speaking for a year and he'd give him like a life-changing amount of money and then after the year the guy had never spoken, he said, all right, you won, you beat me. But I don't have the money. I can't pay you.

I never thought you'd be able to go through with it. I'm broke. I'm destitute. And then the guy fucking pulls his shirt open and revealed that to win the bet for the money that he wanted, he had his vocal cords severed. I'm surprised they didn't have somebody cut ricochet's vocal cords. He might be a bigger star if you didn't hear him spin

and maybe break his fingers so he can't talk on Twitter. If Rickashay could not communicate in any way with the fans, I think he'd be a superstar. See, Lucha Underground had it right. They made him a masked Lucha door with the manager. He didn't talk at all. Well, remember, that's the idea. When I saw him as Rickashay in NXT or whatever,

that's the idea I had for him, not knowing that they'd already done it. Because he just, he doesn't do himself any favors not only when he doesn't argue and whining bitch at random fans on Twitter over and over but also he just sounds like such a fucking goofus or a dufa?

What letter would precedeufus? I think you could use either one of them if you're a goofy and a doofus it's goofus so it depends on what you think. The other thing is if you notice, they're doing more of those WWE style introductions that they were doing on Raw under the previous regime where

Renee, it was even her back then doing it, says, ladies and gentlemen, here is my guest, Rick-Ashea, and then the person awkwardly walks in from a foot away, and they don't say anything for like a weird second. And then, all right, you got no pop. Let me go into the questioning. Yeah, well, see, the people at home in their living room are popping. Guys sit there in his fucking semen-stained underwear

with his hand in his crotch, the other hand in a fucking bag of microwave popper. and had his shaved in three days, but he's going to start cheering, and you don't want your first words to be drowned out by the people at home popping. It's a odd, very odd. They're all odd. They're all odd. And then an SUV pulled up, and MJF, part of MJF got out. We saw his finger with his ring. We saw the back of his head. I think somebody shot his left kidney for a second.

And then he, and that got the biggest pop so far on the show, didn't it? I don't know, actually. It was in the back. It was on the video screen, I guess, to the front. Couldn't really tell. Well, no, all the people, they just had the back door open and all the people could see in the parking lot when the SUV pulled up. And I'm being a wise ass here.

But yes, it was, that's the point is seeing a part of MJF's anatomy and not even the best part on the screen got a bigger pop than most of these. Ye'hous kicking a shit out of each other live in front of these people. And I think they're going to fuck that up too, aren't they? Is MJF the star, or is he the star, but he has no other stars in which to interact with? You know, we've seen more feedback about this lately than ever before. I think MJF, based on the booking, based on the stuff with Adam Cole, based on the fact it's still going on, I think MJF lost a lot of goodwill with the fans in terms of

you could rely on his segments being the kind of wrestling you want. We definitely have seen a lot of feedback about it. And they've heard him. He's not as strong as he was. They forced the baby face turn. Jericho brought it up. Jericho started throwing it out there all the time.

Tony was hearing it. MJF went along with it, obviously. And there are good things about that. You know, the bro Chacho sold a lot of shirts. But in terms of long-term, what it meant for AEW, MJF should have been the forever heel, and they needed the fine baby faces for him. And they blew that, and I just think all this stuff with him and Adam Cole, it's as endless as the Jericho stuff was. Remember how badly we wanted all that to end? Oh, yeah.

This has gone on so much longer because everybody needs to stay healthy long enough for him to resolve it. That's taken two years. So yeah, you say, are they going to ruin it? Yeah, because MJF's back, I didn't pop because I know he's about to interact with Adam Cole and Kyle O'Reilly. I don't want to see this. Well, as a matter of fact, that interaction was about to come up, but before we got the 9 o'clock hour with Adam Cole and Kyle O'Reilly in the winter getting MJF, we were in the back again with Renee and Matt Cardona. And he said it was great to be back.

The people were shocked when he showed up. So was I right then. has he been here? Did they preface this by saying this was on Rampage? Where did he... He's fighting Jericho at final battle, but where did he show back up? I don't know.

I mean, he's made an appearance or two way back. I think even when Cody was there, because he's friends with Cody. Well, yes, but I mean, like last week or whatever on Rampage that was viewed by 114 people and two second story men in Atomwa, Iowa? I don't know. but I saw quotes a while back from Matt Cardona

an interview he did somewhere just saying how he's surprised based on what he's done in the Indies the last few years that AEW and WWE haven't given him a call and I was actually surprised too especially when it's AEW and they're desperate for anyone they can get in there so it's probably a good move to do something with him well would he have heat because he was friends with Cody

well I think the other interesting thing is isn't he one of the guys wrestles regularly. I say he does stuff on the Indies for GCW who AEW apparently just pulled Willie Mac like a week before those two shows coming up. Wait, wait, whoa, ho! Willie Mac! How did AEW pull Willie Mac? Does Willie Mac work

for AEW? And have we seen him in five years? Well, here's an article real quick from the rest of the There goes the rabbit hole now. Find the AEW employee. The Wrestling Observer website is harder than looking for Earhart. Listen, the Wrestling Observer website has an article here by Brian Rose.

Willie Mac pulled from GCW events. Willie Mac apparently won't be appearing for GCW anytime soon. The promotion told Fightful on Monday that Mac has been pulled from his upcoming events scheduled to face Sidney

Akeem scripts at highest in the room three. What? That's the name of the event, highest in the room three, on December 14th. So, I mean, that's, they pulled them a couple days before the show. GCW claim to fight full today that Willie Mac has been pulled. The company is under the impression that this stems from Effie's comments as AEW has no show scheduled next week.

Willie Mac is under AEW contract. Okay. Been used primarily for Ring of Honor. His last match was in October, losing to Commander on an episode of Ring of, of Honor television. Jesus Christ, isn't Willie Mac like 300 pounds? So a guy that you're not using,

who you last used a couple months ago on Ring of Honor. It says Ring of Honor television. There is no television. Ring of Honor's streaming show. They pulled him after they pulled Ricky Starks. But yeah, Cardona had been wrestling for them for a while, so I don't know what, uh, I don't know if one thing is anything to do with the other.

He's, he's kind of the war of the, the war of the, outlaws. No wonder Bandito is being sought after. He's going to be the top outlaw. But again, this goes to the idea of the problems with AEW, one of the problems. You're bringing Matt Cardona. This is a guy who has been working his ass off apparently on the Indies to build a name and come up with a new gimmick. Just do his own thing, and it's worked. You're bringing him in not to be featured on Dynamite. You're bringing him in to feud with Chris Jericho or have a match with him over the Ring of Honor. A promotion of doesn't have a TV show, the Ring of Honor Championship on that pay-per-view.

You know, to me, that's part of the problem. How many things on this show promote things that sound kind of more interesting maybe on Collision or Rampage, but not interesting enough to make you want to see it? They're always promoting these other things instead of just, here's our brand, here's our show, here are our stars, you can see them again next week. well and you would have to devote on the week that they do the pay-per-view if you were to watch all the shows that they're trying to get you to watch you would have to devote let's see four six eight nine hours to just watching the programs that they're doing that week and so you have to tell some kind of coherent story from show to show with talent

that people are familiar with in the company not just on this particular brand of pro oh he's with AEW not oh he's on rampage you know and you can't just do shit mostly on another program and then have this guy pop up and say that's great to be back

when's you come back oh I'm going to be on pay-per-view from a streaming show show on a secondary promotion on the first day of a three-day stand in a small building in New York. Kind of hard for most people to keep track up. Did you see the FTR promo? Did you skip past that? I skipped it because I was afraid that somebody was going to try to pour bleach down somebody's

neck again. What did they say? Well, what they said was surprising. They said, you know, Death Riders, we don't really have a problem with you. I'm like, you don't have a problem with them. You just stop them for trying to murder someone backstage with a funnel. They had a funnel. So, yeah, they're going to be wrestling. They don't really, we don't really want to piss you guys off because we know how bad you are and y'all kick the shit out of us.

What is with these fucking baby faces in this company? The other, O'Reilly came out and told Adam Cole and the rest of them, stay away from MJF, he's going to kick a shit out of you. You don't stand a chance. now FTR's like Hey now guys we don't have a problem with you We don't want this to escalate any further In the opening match you at three of the baby faces

Just kicked the shit out of each other Yeah At least they found somebody they could whip So anyway Back to some of these baby faces So now The 9 o'clock hour was entrusted With the winner gets

MJF Adam Cole versus Kyle O'Reilly and Taven and Bennett had tried to talk O'Reilly out of it and don't do that but he blew him off right and so I mean as a as an independently viewed

wrestling match just on basis of execution there was nothing wrong with this obviously but it's just I sat back thinking when they were tag team partners in Ring of Honor in 2010, 11

and they were you know, Kyle was legitimately Davy Richards you know second in command in the car from St. Louis and understudy and they were going to MMA classes and so they had a

tag team but we made Cole kind of you know Eddie Edwards's guy so that we could have that rivalry. But they were talented. They were the next stars of Ring of Honor in 2011.

They were the next stars of wrestling in general. But now, unfortunately, their careers have mostly come and gone at this point. The height of it was in NXT during the undisputed era where

I think all of those guys probably could have had a good shot at the main roster as a unit and been entertaining. They didn't miss any, you know, long-term WWE champions out of the group. I'm not saying that. But God, ever since that that fell apart, the NXT group, and they trickle to AEW, it's been the death of both of them. And Bobby Fish is a corpse floating in a river these days.

but the booking, the injuries, the bad luck, the who knows what else, their strengths have been mostly negated or, you know, nullified and their weaknesses have been accentuated. O'Reilly has always done an MMA-influenced kind of wrestling style that I think would appeal to a modern audience. better than most. With the flexibility that he had and still has, but he's had a serious neck injury, but with the way that he incorporated that

shit into a pro wrestling style and the things he could do and the kicks and the knees and blah, blah, blah. He did it better than most people. He looks like hoist Gracie next to John Moxley, but it's never been booked or exploited right to me because that needed to be you don't just make a guy like that

that really is not impressive physically and can't cut a real commanding promo but has a unique kind of work style that looks good and believable you need to make that style more of the story of him and cater to it

and exploit it and hide the weaknesses, which is the promo, and the fact that he's rangy. So you have him doing a variety of those stretch moves, that shoot moves, so that his height is accentuated by the announcers and his thinness and ranginess, et cetera. But that's never been done. And since we started doing it, 15 years ago or whatever.

And Adam Cole is a tremendous promo. that was always his strongest point. But he could also work and he used to be in great shape. But now a guy that can work and do things while looking like he does now just kind of makes it look like anybody can do this shit. And we've gone over and the injuries, unfortunate freak, whatever, and the bad booking and the devil and the, so now you've got

two guys that holy fuck have they could they have been treated any worse by the matchmaker of this organization having a solid indie style modern style match that needed a lot more sauce to make it interesting

would you say that my evaluation is somewhat correct I'd say this was like Ring of Honor's slam barry and you know again I'm sick of both guys I agree with you about Kyle O'Reilly that's why I never completely give up on him but time's running out who's gonna book him who's the person that's gonna book him well there is no one and Adam Cole I'm completely done with I don't want to see Adam Cole anymore I don't believe there's a single person he wrestles that he can beat in a wrestling match and now he's gonna and now if he beats MJF you ask about if they've done

damage to MJF. If MJF loses to Adam Cole, if that's the final ending of this, does that help anyone? No, no. The fact that they're even going to touch each other again does not help anybody. And that's what happened here. And here's another thing on his finish. What the fuck? Cole super kicked O'Reilly on the floor and enrolled him in the ring. And as the referee was checking O'Reilly, and I've seen a goddamn complex proctological examinations done in less time of people

than this referee was taken with the but MJF appeared and swung at Adam Cole with the diamond ring, but Cole ducked and super kicked him, and then O'Reilly schoolboyed after you couldn't see MJF anymore, he was off the

edge of the ring, then O'Reilly schoolboyed Adam Cole and got a two count and then O'Reilly spun around and got him in an ankle lock and Cole small packaged him one, two, three. And I, oh, what the fuck? Because if MJF does not want Adam Cole to win, and that's why he came out to try to interfere, the thing that got the pop here,

was Adam Cole's super kick in MJF because, you know, it's MJF taking a bump. But then they just finished the match flat if they'd have thought to themselves. You do the super kick. Boom. He gets nailed

onto the apron. Then O'Reilly comes up from behind fucking Cole with the fucking schoolboy, right? And as O'Reilly's got him stacked up, MJF is clambering back up on the apron and just as he gets up there, Cole

kicks out of the pen. and O'Reilly flies backwards into goddamn MJF and boom and he takes another bump, they get another pop, and then he falls forward into the goddamn deal. But instead they had Kyle get back on the offense by himself for Cole to reverse, which meant that Cole just beat him. But anyway, and not surprisingly, Kyle O'Reilly then walked off from Adam Cole

without shaking his hand. Oh, good Lord. Keep walking. Back to NXT. Get the fuck out of there. I don't know if he still has the keys, do you? Can he get in down here? I was actually hoping O'Reilly would win.

I'd rather see him against MJF. It would have been different. We haven't seen it. Well, that was that exciting segment. You know, you have to wonder what it's going to. be like one day. I wonder, I'm wondering right now, which way this will go. Well, it can go a lot of ways, and you have to wonder which way will it go one day? When Adam Cole says, you know, who am I fooling? It's time to do what wrestlers do when they grow up, I don't know, become a

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All right, it's a close shave, but we're back. Oh, for heaven's sake. A.W. Dynamite. You're playing a stingers coming out of the. ad breaks, huh? AEW. Dynamite now shaving away the ratings. Well, I'll tell you, Tony Chavani,

he looks like he should be in a Volkswagen Beetle following the Grateful Dead around half the time, doesn't he? He's got an earring sometimes. He's very hairy hair suit for an older. He's an older man than I am. Trying to regain his former glory with a little

hair dye. some shoe polish. What was I talking about? What was it on this show that happened? Then they cut back to the desk and Shimoni's like, what a great AEW moment. Shut the fuck up. Well, he was sitting down with Darby Allen here

and Darby was talking about Dick the Boozer, the world's most dangerous plumber. I really won you over with that one. Oh, I'm telling you, hold on where I'm writing this down, Dick the Boozer. I thought snoozer Brody was going to be the winner this year, ladies and gentlemen.

No, no, because I don't want to make fun of Brody. But anyway, you know, this epitomized to me, this Darby Allen interview, how they don't understand how to present themselves, how they just can't figure out that only their small indie audience is as smart as they think everybody is, and to the rest of a television viewing audience, they come off goofier than a fucking rainbow trout and a car wash. Darby is talking about how everybody's scared of Moxley's bunch,

first of all, but he says, you know, I understand why the young guys here don't want to get involved because this is the first time they've made a living off pro wrestling. Did you hear that line? Yes, from Season Veteran Darby Allen.

I did hear it. What the fuck is wrong with? Yes, we can tell that it's the first time they've made a living off pro wrestling by watching them. You don't need to back it up verbally. That's what,

they don't understand how to present either themselves or some of the other people on their roster as stars. Remember what we were talking about? Vince was, his last few years there everybody that was coming out to do a promo in the

WWE was always my childhood dream I've always wanted to be here Vince loved that I went through the childhood dream in 1996 with Sean Michaels Vince loved that and he got stuck on it he was like what are they when they spam the thing

his button was stuck but do you hear my child dream was about shitting on an egg and that's where that's where his button got stuck the egg

but now that the WWE is so successful do you hear people go I'm so happy lucky to be here and I'd be nothing with that no they're being presented like fucking star

as a professional athlete's point is Darby here not only says that all the all the baby faces and all the young talent and or all the people that might stand up to Moxley, they're scared to do it because they don't want to rock the boat

and lose their jobs because it's the first time they've ever made a living off pro wrestling. What kind of amateur hour bullshit is this then? And then he started punching himself in the mouth. And then he spit blood out of his mouth because this, I don't care about this, the violence, but I care about it. Number one, there were, if you notice, there were a lot of edits in this piece that were covered up with B-roll because I guess he couldn't get this whole thing out all at the same time,

but also so he could slip the fucking blood into his mouth because where he punched himself, he'd have done a better job of knocking a tooth out, and then he just kind of spit this big clump of blood instantly and then no more, I don't know what the fuck's going on. And why are we supposed to admire a son of a bitch that will punch himself in a face and draw blood not trying to get out of a fucking arrest or lawsuit? See, I put that caveat in there because I've done that before in search of one of those goals.

But what the fuck was this? This is the kind of interview they used to do with Jim Ross, remember? He would sit down with the talent and have them awkwardly try to explain whatever it is they're trying to say. What have you got to say for yourself? The more Darby talks, like he gets you for a moment. He gets you with the whole rah-rah feelings.

And then he loses you and you're like, you know, I don't really want to stand with this guy. They had a moment. You know, it's interesting looking back now, everyone who thought he should have been the person to defeat Danielson for the title instead of Moxley. Here we are a few months later. It couldn't have been any worse.

Well, moving on, it can get worse. Oh, yes, it can. Another tournament match, Rickashay versus Brody King. So I decided when the bell rang to fast forward 11 minutes in and see what would happen. Rickashay foiled Brody King's superplex off of the top rope by hitting him with repeated fake blows to the back.

He looked like a small child having a temper tantrum. And it's not like you could. cover this up there was nothing else to look at right it was just them on the ropes and he's going wha wean wea on the guy's back and then he hits him with a power bloc power blam a power blam he puts some extra of mustard on it a power blam off the ropes and then he goes to the top rope ricochet does on the other side and brodie king has to lay on his back but squire worm about five or six feet to the left to put himself in the right place. So ricochet comes off the top rope with the shooting star press.

That's the famous, made famous by Brock Lesner, where you jump off, you do a backflip and you land smack dab on top of the other guy, right? And he does this. He does the shooting star press and he lands right on top of Brody King. and bounces off of him a little bit even, and he goes to cover the guy, and Brody King grabs him by the throat like the undertaker, and no cells getting landed on by that fucking splash,

and just stands up and slaps a sleeper on him. And wait, again, Rick O'Shea came in with all this fanfare, and he had some goodwill, and the people were interested, now he's given these big finishes off the top rope to middle card guys that are just, oh, fuck you, you're a gnat. I'm an elephant.

There you go. The other thing, too, is Brody King here. This is the second time on the show. I think Adam Cole did it earlier. Noticably, and again, a lot of it's on the camera people, I guess, but still it's happening, noticeably put himself into place. And I mean, with Brody King here was basically as the move was happening, he was still putting himself into place.

But Adam Cole did it earlier for the O'Reilly match. Well, I mean, and there's a lot of that that goes on that people don't notice or it's not worth calling attention to. And it's, you know, part of half-ass being professional. But when you've got to traverse five or six feet while you're supposedly laying immobile and stunned, that starts to stretch things. But because the guy didn't land in a lot. right place and he looked up he's like oh shit maybe he maybe he could have stood up and

or not stood up but set up and fucking rolled a minute or i don't know what the fuck but he's just squirming but anyway then they had removed one of the turnbuckle pads off the top turnbuckle in a corner so ricochet he figured out they're fighting on the ropes and he dd teed brodie king head first on to the bearer turn buckle while Brody King was still standing on a second rope. Well, then he kicked Brody King's foot off the rope so that Brody King dropped face first on the exposed buckle again. And then when he took a bump back in the ring and was on his knees, he clotheslined him twice

while King was on his knees and couldn't even take a decent bump. One, two, three. It took almost 15 minutes. another one of these fucking flat-ass finishes where the guy just beats the fucking guy when there's no pop to it or no unexpected, you know, or no twist or no... Ha! But that was that. I know you'll disagree with me, but I actually don't mind Brody King.

He's been growing on me. I think he's pretty good for a big man. Like a tumor? He moves around really good for a big man. Does he need to be produced? Sure, he does. but he's not as bad as I remember him being when he first got there.

Well, maybe Rick O'Shea was bad enough for the both of them. But, has his stock fallen? Has Rickashay stock fallen in the last? When did they do the angle where he got laid out and everyone was wondering if he was ever going to come back? Was it July? Something like that, yeah.

Well, he's pissed off all the people that he's argued with individually on Twitter. That's a couple of hundred thousand. Think about it. he just he's not a he's not an interesting person when you see who the person is that's why he needed a gimmick and be protected

which he kind of was over there did you ever hear him talk much if if at all oh well speaking of talking if not not much then not at all did you see the pitch out of this match where this show was continuing to fucking head down to porcelain throne

I don't remember. What was after this match? Well, it was an interview in the back with private party. Oh, yeah. I'm glad you saw this second. With Leo Rush and Action Andretti

walking in, but our friend Sockface, the lead announcer on his fiasco, did the pitch to the... Well, let's go backstage to hear from Leo Rush and Action Andretti. And they go to the fucking promo

and it's a... It's private party saying, hi, we're private party. And then they start talking about being the tag team champions for a second. And then in-walk Leo Rush at Action Andretti to confront them. So apparently, we can also call sock face Nostra Dumbass. Did you see what they were wearing? Well, yeah, were they inflatable octopus outfits? What was that?

Whatever it is, I definitely want to say. see this tag team. Anything Leo Rush does, it'll last weeks and it'll be something you'll smile about when you remember it. But it's like if you were wearing well, you know, the kid and Willie Wonka

that inflated himself and floated up to the ceiling, if you were like wearing something like that only with spikes all over. It had like shards or, I don't even know if you want to say spikes, but just... They looked like a swimming pool toys.

didn't they? Because when we say spikes, we're talking about inflatable spikes. We're not talking about actual metal spikes. They seemed very comfortable. What made it work was they seemed very comfortable wearing whatever they were wearing. I definitely want to see.

Put that on dynamite instead of the Moxley stuff. Leo Rush and Action Andretti's All-Star tag team. As the lifeguards? As whatever they want to do. They're wearing pool toys. It's AEW. Let them book their own segments.

Well, they came in. in and argued with private party and then have top flight Dante and Darius Martin have they become heels now and they walked in with some girl no that's Lela Gray you pay your respect is that like I don't fucking know

but they're their heels now right because they've got a snotty girl and they're talking in a snotty fashion I don't know I couldn't tell because she immediately went to the other side if you notice when everything was our when everyone was arguing she was standing next to Leo Rush and Action Andretti. Well, no, but she was standing next to him, but she wasn't looking

at him. She was standing there because she could pose for the camera and turning a seductive way better. She didn't have any idea what was going on behind her. She had maybe the best side boob in wrestling history going on here, if you notice what was going on. That's why she stood at that angle. But Noah, I'm intrigued by anything going on with this Leo Rush, Action

Andretti, Action Andrede looks like the illegitimate child of Jimmy Delray. And that's all I think about whenever I see him, he's kind of a scuzzy Jimmy Del Rey kind of character and Leo Rush is always like weeks away from falling out with someone so I want to see more of that tit the T T T T T T T T T I want to see more of that T T T T T Tee. Well I guess we're going to see him on something because they all

insulted each other and everybody argued but Leo and one of the Martin brothers shook hands before they walked off and that's the thing it's ridiculous because he leans his hand in the shake and you look at looking at his jacket and the fucking inflatable spikes or whatever they are. He's acting so serious while wearing the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen a human being wear. That's why Leo Rush works. He's serious about the ridiculous.

And ladies and gentlemen, the Leo Rush fan club, Brian Last has sent in his permission slip. All right, are we going to talk about the All In Texas on sale package? Oh, boy. How many fans did you count in those very closely cropped shots of the fans right at that barricade? That's the thing. It was sad. That's what I was talking about earlier. You know, you start to not even take any pleasure in pointing out the ludicrosity of what's going on here.

They tried to put a package together of the on-sale extravaganza they put on with the talent. outside the stadium that they're still saying they're going to run next summer. And it was TV action footage, shots of the stadium empty. It's a great-looking stadium, and here's the drone shot from overhead. There's nobody in it, and it's just sitting here. And then the talent, I mean, Lashley was there. Brian Danielson was, Sting was there in face paint. problem with that. Brian Danielson, the last time we saw him on TV, he lost his final match

to Moxley and almost died. They tried to kill him again. This is the first time we've seen him on TV since then, isn't it? Happy as a pig and shit. Raising his arms up, like he has no neck problems or no problems in anything whatsoever. First time we've seen him since the death riders rode death on him. Yeah, it broke his neck. But all that talent was on a stage talking in front of a nice little press conference backdrop talking to 25 people in a parking lot when you saw either the still pictures from people or unedited phone camera footage from people

they had like a bicycle rack barricade that there were people lined up two abreast for like 20 fucking feet and Sting was there How do you advertise a Sting autograph session even and only get 25 people And that's why I said in FacePaint I talked to a fucking guy

That did a lot of Booking of talent at convention He ran convention So he booked a lot of talent He knew what he was paying people And he said Yeah he said I have to pay Sting

I can't remember what he said 10, 15 grader or what But it's five grand extra if he puts his face paint on. That's way if he's charged you $5,000 to paint his face. Yeah, otherwise he wears the sunglasses. Oh, well, God damn it. How can you have all those people there

and only get 25 people or whatever the fuck it was? Help me. I bet you're on mute. No, I'm trying to think of how to even say it anymore. The product is ice cold. nobody cares about it. I don't know how much local promotion they did for the on sale,

but considering how bad they've been with local promotion for all sorts of things, who knows how it was. You could have stood up on fucking Interstate 35 and flagged people into the parking lot and got 200? You could have done a lot of things differently than the way they've done it so far. And again, Brian Danielson, the last time we saw him, we didn't know if he was going to live.

And here he is, he's just, happy to be there. It's nice to see that, you know, it's the miracle of modern science and modern medicine, Brian. Brian, it's Tony. I need you to get out of bed for these 35 people here at this barricade. Fly to Texas.

That's the other thing, like you said. They moved Australia indoors. How the hell are they going to run a stadium that's what, 40,000 capacity, not counting seats on the floor? And they're set up for 25,000.

And what would you say, 20 if they're lucky right now? That would be a... Oh, Jesus Christ, how are they going to get 20,000 people right now, anywhere in this country? If they were lucky, if they were able to get people to just say, hey, this is my summer vacation, a nice trip to Arlington. Perhaps that's what they're thinking. I don't know, but what do they have to fill?

I mean, they had Sting there. Sting's retired. You can't bring them back, because otherwise you fucked everyone who bought the biggest pay-per-view you ever had. Brian Danielson, they said it was his last regular match, so you at least have the out there, but who the fuck do you want to see him wrestle? You don't want to see him wrestle Moxley again?

Like, it's not about, I need to see him get his revenge. Just like, you know, if he could wrestle again against anyone and function, I'll be happy. There's nothing, they have nothing on the horizon to get into that stadium. Well, speaking of nothing on the horizon, and unless you were looking for a moon, you probably didn't like the main event of this television show.

The women's title on the line, Maria May versus Mina Melons. Good God, I wrote, this is the main event. And I started watching this thing, and if I want to watch two clumsy drunk strippers, they need to be wearing less clothing. And otherwise,

they had an overrun for, this. And they fucked up the overrun because the whole idea is to get people hooked at the top of the hour, right? They went to break at 9.58

and came back at 10.01. They were in break at the top of the hour on a fucking women's match. Then in Maria May 1 and Thundarosa was in the front row not happy with a sign and pissed off. And then Tony Storm walked out in her old outfit and in color

and stood there what a way to end the show it's breaking down in fucking Kansas City what are they going to do about Luther where is Luther I don't know he was her butler when she was black and white and crazy I know and he did a lot of buttling

he was the butt of many jokes and they've got to still be paying him I bet they've made him some kind of producer or flunky or something. Well, he may not be her butler, but maybe he's still Jericho's ward. I don't know if he was ever actually Jericho's ward or if he was just like the

the Quaid brother that, you know, has the issues that they just tag along with him. Well, that's AEW Dynamite. Some bold moves there, starting the night with Moxley, ending the night with bosom. We'll see how they do in the ratings, which we do not have as of present. Because we are recording in such a timely fashion

They have not even been issued And disseminated to the general public yet That's how on top of this thing we are Well Jim knowing that we have to travel through time at some point Can we do one classic wrestling thing here before we wrap things up? I think well not before we wrap things up But before we travel through time And then reconvene to continue this program

That will be seamless in terms of the listener experience I call it wrap things up because I have to you know tie everything down before we, you know, hit the air. But, uh, Jim... Tie me kangaroo down, sport. Tie my kangaroo down. If this works, this is a new segment. If this is bombs, this was Jim's idea.

Hey, what, huh? Hmm? The other day I was out. I was smoking a joint. I was hanging out. And I decided to just start going through the files. The files of the wrestling news, which comprise ring wrestling, wrestling review, wrestling monthly,

various other publications as well as correspondence and I have a file here this is from the files yes from the files so we'll see if this is interesting because I have not completely looked through it I just saw that it was thick and filled with correspondence this is the Christopher Love file oh my god

okay and for those of you who might not know Christopher Love was the managerial nom de plume and persona of promoter Bert Prentice and at various points he was Queen Christopher Love especially in the LPWA where he managed Lelani Kai and Judy Martin the Glamour Girls

and Bert during his manager days Honey Love Honey Love was another persona. Bert was a very flamboyant individual during his younger days and also his manager days, but

Bert was gay. And he wasn't even like Ronnie Gossett, where Ronnie Gossett would say, I'm not gay, I'm just friendly. Burr was gay, but he didn't let that get in the way of business most of the time. And he was, he

ran great shows. He was the classic definition of an indie wrestling promoter and a hustler and a go-getter and a he could well remember i did uh this was even this was after you joined the podcast i did a show for him or went to a show that he ran he was on the show yeah down in jackson and we talked about his operation and everything and that he had down there he was working with the city running regularly and uh of course he passed away a couple years ago but he won me over because he ripped off Howard Baum and Howard Baum's dad in like

1984 or 1985 somewhere in there took a bunch of money to help them run shows and left town and when they opened his briefcase it was like filled with a women's underwear there was the briefcase that he had left as collateral for the money right yeah and years later he was on social media and Howard brought it up like hey it was a real scumbag thing to do burprentice sent him a check and it cashed Yes. So he made good on it. So that impressed me.

That was actually really classy, I think, after ripping him off initially and leaving him all that underwear. But the interesting thing about this file, as I look through things, there's a lot of different addresses and names. Oh, he was all over the place. Bert started Music City wrestling in Nashville. He had Ozark Mountain Wrestling in, I can't remember where he was headquartered over in Arkansas. He had a territory in Kansas briefly for a while.

He saw me, he was just, he was everywhere. Well, in 1988, Christopher Love was at Box 201. Is it Gredinger, Iowa? Your guess is as good as mine. Well, that's where he was in 1988. This is, what year is this? This is 1990. The envelope says the International Association of Independent Promoters,

wrestlers, and fans. Greensboro. How does that abbreviation break down? The I-A-I-P-W-F in Greensboro, North Carolina. Yes, he was in North Carolina for a while. Norman Kiteser wrote his reply on here. Christopher Love, received your brochure on your 1990 convention, April 13 through 15. Unfortunately, since the wrestling news is quarterly, it didn't come out in time.

So I could plug it in the next issue before the date as Wrestling News 131. won't be out until late April at the earliest. Anyway, for the future, send us info well in advance, and we will plug it. Or if you wish something on what happened at the convention and your future plans for organization. I don't know what the hell that's necessary. Also, would appreciate your payment of the $225 that you owe me for the magazines you got from me in 1988.

Wow. And here's a letter from the organization. For Bert to send out stuff plenty in advance, in those days, he may not have known what state he was going to be living in three months out. I have a letter here on the official letterhead of the International Association of Independent Promoters, Resslers, and Fans. February 15th, 1990, dear wrestling fan, I have enclosed for you all of the exciting information on Convention 1990. Please read it over carefully, and I sincerely hope that you will make every effort to join us in Greensboro and April. This will be a dream weekend for many wrestling fans.

Additional wrestlers that will be at the convention that we did not get the mention in the brochure include Tully Blanchard, Tim Horner, Hector Guerrero. Now, wait a minute, hold on now. Pause one second. Chris Love at one point in San Antonio actually managed Tully. Before Tully went to... That's right. Went to Crockett, but go ahead. Did he manage him again at this point in 1990 when Tully briefly...

Did he manage him for Vern? Where am I thinking of him and Tully in 90? But anyway... I don't know. And the list grows each and every day. There will be fabulous exhibits. And if you would like to reserve a booth for yourself, please call us today.

Christopher Love, 1990 convention host. And when they called him Honey Love, because that was a thing he did when he was cutting promos. And let me tell you this, honey. And you know, here comes honey love. Convention 1990, April 13, 14, and 15th, the Holiday Inn, Four Seasons Tower Center, Greensboro. On the front cover, Buddy Rogers, Lou Thess, and Bill Aptor.

Hey, that was, when he was in, I'm going to say it was 1995, 96, because right about the time Smoky Mountain closed down, Burt was doing, I think that was when he was Ozark Mountain Wrestling. He was in Missouri or wherever he was, a boot heel down there. And a bunch of the, you know, he brought Buddy Landell over, and the headbangers, Thrasher and Mosh, Glenn and Chaz, he moved them out there at one point. I'm trying to think, was it when they were still the spiders?

Maybe I'm confusing, but the point is, there was like 8, 10 guys somewhere in Missouri or I, Iowa working this little small wrestling territory with this little small weekly TV or whatever for Burt Prentice. And suddenly they got up one day and Burt was gone in the town. There was no promotion anymore and they were all living in fucking Iowa or whatever. It started calling around like, can anybody book us so we get the fuck out of here? I have here.

This is from 1983, June 6th, 83, the postmark. and it has his business card as well as the official envelope and letterhead of Shirley Dillon's Mid-States Championship Wrestling 2315 South 58th Court Chicago, Illinois. The business card says Chris Love, event coordinator. Yes, and Shirley was, Bert loved to find an angel. When you found a financial backer, both on Broadway and the carnivals and in wrestling, you were finding an angel. Burt loved to find angels. America's fastest growing wrestling organization,

Mid-State Championship Wrestling will bring you the top TV stars available with the best percentage paid per show offered anywhere. Well, no, best percentage, that's a... This is to the venue. Yeah, that's basically looking for sponsors, for spot show type of things. We will pay more in...

In those days, if a local group wanted to sponsor the matches of a territory. We've talked about it. They'd do a 75-25 split or an 80-20 split where the sponsoring group provided the building sold the advanced tickets,

did the, you know, the grunt work of whatever, and they'd get 20% of the gate. But Burt would give them bigger percentages, but it was still, you know, 80% of Jack's shit is still fairly shitty. We also provide top-of-the-line advertisement promotions,

including window posters, newspaper, and radio features. We will guide you through an exciting promotional event that will want you to make it an annual happening. Say again, this is written really weird. We require no large deposit money in advance. It's like a translation from... See, I guarantee...

Bert even had, because Byrne was better than that Bert had people doing this shit for him. Because, you know, because remember he could write better than that, the promotions that Bert started doing in the late 90s, especially with Music City in Tennessee and some of the other things he was doing, he had some longevity with and drew some houses

and was doing some business. But back in the 80s and 90s, because he wasn't that much older than me, So, you know, in his younger days, he was all over the page. Once again, we require no large deposit money in advance. And with our stellar lineup and your enthusiastic support, together we will make this a gigantic success. This reads like a Ponzi scheme letter or something. Professional wrestling is drawing bigger live audiences now than in the history of the sport.

Mid-States Championship Wrestling is a consistent winner at the box office. depending on the general population of your city or town, Mid-States Championship Wrestling can offer you up to 30% of the gate receipts. See, there you go. Not to be matched by any other reputable organization. However, some crooked ones will give you more. When booking a live wrestling show, make sure you are dealing with a legitimate promoter. Check other local organizations for references.

We will provide you with everything. Excellent references. Yeah, we'll tell you exactly who to ask about us. The wrestlers photographed here on this copy. Fabulous Mula, the assassin, I don't know who, but it's an assassin mask. The Mighty Warrior, appears to be a little person. Bambi, I never saw her last name before it, Montages. What?

You know Bambi, the women's wrestler? Yes, but what's her last name? It says M-O-N-T-A-G-E-S. I've never heard that before. I never saw it before either. And finally, Mr. USA-Toney Atlas. For Shirley Dillon's... I don't think Bambi ever used that name.

I think he probably may just gave it to her. Well, this is 1983. That's early on. You know, hold on me. The other side of here, there's a poster. What's this? I know her real name, and that ain't it. Oh, this is a different organization.

And it has the results of the TV taping and a poster. Oh, boy. Bloomington, Minnesota, the Carlton Celebrity Room, USA Pro Wrestling TV taping, February 27, 1984. The results?

Todd Cooley defeated Rick Rinslow. That's Wendell Cooney, by the way, because it has his photo here. Seriously, Todd Cooley. 666 defeated Glenn Liskie. Okay, as strange as this,

may sound that could possibly be Jungle Jim Star one of the interns with Dr. Ken Ramey because I think he worked that gimmick in the Central States at one point. Jerry Valiant defeated Bobby Colt. That would have been Guy Mitchell and Bobby, and they were both in Indiana at the time.

Bill Ash defeated Patty Ryan. George Wells defeated Joe Stark. Good Lord, what date was this in 84? February 27th. That's before, uh, George Wells got booked by Mid-South when they were trying to replace dog. The New York doll defeated Tom Zink.

Listen to this fucking match. The Amazing Zulu, Ron Pope. Ooh. And Bill Dromo defeated Mike George and Mark Crowell. Tommy Gilbert. Wait, wait, wait a minute. Hold on back up. Mike George, obviously, again,

most famous in the Central States, but he wrestled Louisiana that territory for a while. I don't know who Rodney Crowell was or his partner or whatever. But can you imagine the team of the magnificent Zulu and Big Bill Dromo? Dromo was one of the best big guy workers in the business at one time. What year? Oh, in the 60s, late 60s, early 70s. But at the same time, Zulu was the worst big man worker in a business.

And this is 10 years later from both of it. In Minnesota. Not like this was like a hotbed for this promotion, but anyway, the remainder of the card, again, from Minnesota, Tommy Gilbert drew Bill Howard. Good Lord, Bill Howard was Radamaius in a lot of places. 666 defeated Mark Crowell and Mike George defeated Rick Rinslow, the poster here. USA Pro Wrestling featuring wrestlers from around the world, body slamming. These are the body slamming men you've heard so much about. who will emerge, the USA Pro Wrestling Champion?

And the photos here, Gary Loller, it's spelled L-O-W-L-E-R, but that's Gary Lawler, dressed like Jerry Lawler with the little beard and the entire look. Yeah. Patty Ryan. Korsesda Kourchenko. Oh, my God. 6-5-300 pounds, Moscow.

Glenn Liskey, the Amazing Zulu, Todd Cooley. And again, that looks like Wendell-Cooley to me. I could be wrong. Tom Zink, George Wells, Joe Stark. Joe Stark was a Memphis job guy that, again, as I recall, was from somewhere around Missouri, down at that end, close to Memphis. This has a very Kansas and Missouri Central States flavor for something going on in Minnesota. There's a pudgy referee without a name here, Bill Ash, Rick Rinslow, and finally,

Bill Ash was from Paris, Arkansas, by the way, and he was famous at that point for making the boys' boots rather than wrestling. Go ahead. And like you said, and this is so interesting to me, Minnesota, 84, 666, Dr. Ken Ramey manager. There you go. Wow.

So who was the promoter that was trying to fight Vern Gagne with guys from the Kansas City territory from 10 years before? Dr. Ken Ramey, Reverend Pro Wrestling Manager. Reverend? Excuse me Revereed pro wrestling manager of such greats

as superstar Billy Graham and now 666 offers $1,000 to anyone who can stay in the ring just 10 minutes with 666 All right Well that's this promotion

Again there's like stuff from all over So is this working so far Are you interested in this? I'd like to see the show now Oh you mean this segment Yeah I'd love you to pull things out of your files I don't know who this is Cecilia Fontana

Lady Cecilia Fontana. It just looks like a woman. Cecilia, you're busting my balls. Here's a picture of Peggy Lee being interviewed by Chris Love. Here's Chris Love early in his career with Sherry Martel in Texas. Photo by Sue Carpenter.

Well, here's some really flamboyant ones. Norman's Story for Magazine, thanks, Christopher Love. He was sending in his own stories, obviously. Christopher Love, Iowa, Shirley Dillard. Christopher Love, here are the 50 copies of the wrestling news, 123 you wanted. I'm sending them in return for the story you sent that appears in that issue. As far as additional copies purchased in bulk,

the cost is 75 cents per copy for 10 or more copies purchased at one time. Thank you again for your help. I apologize and always being behind in everything recently, Norman Kiteser. And then it's just like almost like a pen pal thing. is tons of like this is an orange marker. Well, the guys in a lot of cases in those days would try to stay up with the, stay caught up and in contact with the people that did the magazines

because that was the way you got publicity to the wrestling fan base. There was no internet. If you weren't on TV in a particular market, you had to rely on the magazines, not only the newsstand magazines, but the ones that were sold in the arena. in various places. I don't know what this is about.

Let's see. There's a lot of things attached here. This is from December 23rd, 1986. Burt Prennis. Per your recent letter about not getting the latest issue of the wrestling news, I checked our files, and the only issues I can find that you ordered

were number 120 in April and 121 in October. Both those issues were mailed out long ago. As far as I can determine, Your previous subscription expired with issue number 24. And these are the only two issues that you purchased from us since that time. A hundred issues ago. Now, you know, it's interesting, too.

He's writing this in 86 to Bert Prentice, a lot of the other correspondents from before this and after it, is the Christopher Love. Would Norm Pites have already known that... Well, the first time that I heard that Bert Prentice was trying to get a hold of me, to book me, I didn't know who the fuck it was. And then I found out that it was Chris Love because I had known him as Queen Christopher Love

in the LPWA in 1990. This is almost 10 years later. Bert Prentiss is running Nashville. He wants to get a hold of you. Who? But, you know, it changed over a period of years. Whatever the case, and because it is cheaper than writing back and forth,

I have enclosed a copy of Issue 122 which certainly should square us on every Per your comment about rumors. I've been publishing wrestling magazines for over 20 years and have no plans on quitting, nor did I ever tell anyone that I was. I think that is just some more of the garbage put out there by a former editor who worked for me, who I caught trying to pull a fast one. Oh, who would that be?

In any case, the magazines continue to cost, in bulk. that is for 10 or more copies of the same, that's the same thing he said before. I hope that answers all your questions. I apologize for the recent delay. Did he do it on the same typewriter, Norman, that filled in one of the zeros or one of the O's and dropped a letter every now and in?

Here's an address in, that is the one here, but this is an address in Birmingham, Alabama now, Highland Avenue South. Now here's a photo of Rick McCord with a bow tie on. Why do I have this here? You may be asking yourself. Well, it was either in San Antonio or the Central States that they tried to make some type of male stripper gimmick out of Rick McCord, which I don't think it fit his personality. He was a very nice, polite young man.

I have the picture here July 6. I don't know why this is in his folder. July 6, 1987, Mr. Kites here, thank you for your prompt. Response to my letter concerning the Rick McCord picture in issue one, two, three of the wrestling news. I am anxiously awaiting the next issue of your magazine. Sincerely, Janet Ray Banks. Sedalba, Missouri.

Sedalia. Sedalia. It's hard to read what she wrote here. Sedalia, that's right around Gus Karas's backyard. So, yeah, this is the kind of, oh, here's a Christopher Love envelope. Here's the, it's the laugh-right. that you'll experience every time you go down last alley. This is June 29, 1987.

Dear friends, a big hello from Birmingham, Alabama. Things here look great for a B-I-G summer. I am now working with a very competent and new wrestling organization presented by North American sports. And who was running Birmingham in 1987? we will be running regular shows. Besides southeastern or continental is what I'm talking about. We will be running regular shows throughout Alabama. We premiered in Birmingham on Sunday night, June 28th.

We were at the Batwell Auditorium, home of Fuller wrestling. We'd expected maybe 200 people our first show. Surprise, surprise. We had nearly 800. Fuller sometimes doesn't do that good. Their average is 950 to 1100. Rumors about that threats were made to all boys working the show that if they showed up, they would not work for Fullers. Who cares? Fullers are not doing... He doesn't say the Fullers, just Fullers. Fullers. Fullers are not doing that great of business now at all.

Also, the supposed sale of this territory to Ron West or anyone else at this time is just a work. Totally untrue. Wasn't that about the time David Woods bought it? Not to say they aren't, you know what? That's right. Not to say they aren't wanting to sell and don't have anyone interested. It's just that no sale has been completed. Then on the side it says, direct all my mail to Chris Love, Milford, Iowa.

It will be forwarded. Thanks. And then he has the results here of his show. In Birmingham, the Blue Infernoes beat the Duke Boys by this qualification. Okay, who the fuck are these, already? The Blue Infernos, unless it was Gypsy Joe and Frank Martinez from the 60s in Memphis, that was a gimmick. Well, don't forget about the Duke Boys, but also Nikki Leathers drew Larry Clark. Mike Jackson beat the Midnight Cowboy in a fabulous match.

That's all in caps. The Mass Nightmares beat Ranger Ross and Dino Manelli. Butch Rhodes beat the Terminator Wendy Richter beat Joyce Grable Ricky Gibson and Randy Rose no contest with Gypsy Joe and Joe Rossi

Holy shit I was right about Gypsy Joe at Lee Wow This is 1987 Okay Gypsy Joe was even old even then But Joey Rossi Lynn Rossi's son

had been retired for over 10 years at that point. I'm surprised seeing Ricky Gibson on this show, too. Well, I was... Ricky Gibson, that may have been one of the last matches he ever wrestled if that was either right before or potentially right after

the car wreck that he had. I can't remember exactly, but he was almost done at that point. Or Randy Rose turned on him in this match. Also, J.T. Southern was incredible with a win over Goliath. Adrian Street Pinkentims and Southern and Gibson

won a 16-man two-ring battle royal Jesus Christ how did he talk all these guys into being on his show He had a two-ring battle royal right away Did it really happen? I guess that's the other question Well I don't remember ever hearing Why were these people working opposite Ron Fuller at that point? Why would Adrian Street and Randy Rose

Fuller Have been working opposite Fullers I think we need a backup that this actually happened. Here's a postage due envelope sent the Kiteser Publishing Company, Mancato, Minnesota, 1988, Christopher Love, 904 13th Street, Milford, Iowa, undeliverable. Whatever he said that Chris Love was undeliverable and it came back. To the address that Chris Love had said, please send all my mail to this address. January 20th, 88, and closed as 124 wrestling news.

Just want you to know I have another issue available. Also, a reminder, there is still due $225 of this stuff I sent you in Alabama in July. March 88, so this is a few months later. Christopher Love, per your calls, your check arrived on Saturday. I tried to call you this morning and left the message. I'm sending you the magazines you wanted via UPS this morning. since your shows are on April 8th and 9th, they should be there in plenty of time.

I've, and he blocked out the word, so I don't know exactly what it was, three boxes of 75 copies each, which totals 225 copies. The extra 25 copies should more than make up for any spoiled copies or miscounts. Your bill, $150 for 200 copies of the Wrestling News 124 at 75 cents each,

would appreciate prompt payment. Thank you, Norman Kiteser. Is there any evidence that the bill was paid there? You know, he usually does have receipts. I don't see one here. But that's one of the great things about these files. He kept everything. This is going to be like the Pfeffer collection at Notre Dame.

Instead of it, it's going to be the last collection under Nutter Dome. Well, speaking of Nutter Dome, any closing thoughts on this? Christopher Love, Bert Prentice, did this work? Should we do this again? What do you think? Well, I don't think we'll do it again with Byrd. I think we've plumbed that well. But, yes, we should open up those files every now and then and see who the deadbeats were.

Actually, you know, I'd just follow up real quick. March 21st, 1988 from Christopher Love, Grattinger, Iowa. Dear Norman, received the latest issue of the wrestling news. It was the best! Four exclamation points. Thanks for remembering me. I had no idea that you had not gotten paid for the magazines you sent to me in Birmingham.

My roommate was to pay you way last August after we sold them. But there were also a lot of things he didn't pay, so I guess I'm not really that surprised. At any rate, Norman, here was a money order for $225. I'm sorry for any confusion. If you would like to send me 200 magazines, I will gladly sell them for you. is my cost still 75 cents Please enclose an invoice If you wish not to send them

I understand And then he wrote in hand This is typed out With an arrow where it says please Enclose an invoice Send them soon I have shows 48 in St. James 49 in

Pupstone with zinc So Burt Prentice was making some big moves in 88 with Tom Zink, apparently. But there it is. I think now we'll travel through time, mercifully. Hopefully this was a little bit interesting to everyone. I'll start revving up the motor.

Well, with that, we go to time travel. All right. Actually, that wasn't time travel. That was the drones, ladies and gentlemen. Here we are in drone-filled New Jersey, and, of course. I'm not even going to. I'm not even going to. It's the future.

I only had time. Well, you got time. I'll give you all the time you need. Well, you just gave us some time travel there. I think it was a little bit lengthier than was called for, but you do you. But we have now obtained the information that we didn't have before back in the past, and now we're back here in the future to continue with the information that we have gotten. You know, sometimes you and I, I brought it up, sometimes you and I talk about things, things that happen maybe in Louisville that become national news,

sometimes things that don't. I brought up the drone thing to you. Look at it now. It's everywhere. Yes. I think I said earlier in the program before we traveled through time. That will do a number on your short-term memory, folks, as time travel. But it was on the local WDRB news here just earlier.

And, you know, people demanding answers. People want to know what's going on. I think my idea was best. I think, you know, send up the cargo helicopter and just suck them up into cargo hold, one of them, and take them off and examine it somewhere. Take it to the factory. They can't get near them.

They don't know where they're coming from. It has a goddamn fully equipped military cargo hold helicopter. You see, it's carrying fucking 50 goddamn people in it or whatever, has they just pulled one of those up next to one of these son of a bitches and opened a goddamn door and said, come on in. According to local officials I've seen on TV, and this is one of those things that crosses political spectrums,

Republicans and Democrats United in confusion on what's happening here, that there have been times that they've gotten within sight or within, you know, close sight of one of the drones, and it goes dark and disappears. It does, it, it flies away, undetected or it disappears. That's right. No, I'm asking you.

What is this habit in Costello? What's the guy's name on that? I'm not asking you. Are they saying it literally disappears or it just flies away undetected or it just vanishes in front of their fucking eyes? It's right in front of their eyes. They have a shot on it.

Not shot. Oh, bullshit. And then it just, it goes dark. The lights go out because it always has blinking lights all around. Well, yes. When night when I don't, turn the lights out, my house goes dark, but you can still fucking see it if you try. It stands still, your house isn't zooming at all different angles at all different speeds.

Well, somebody would be able, with a flashlight, would be able to say, hey, look at that house zooming off into the goddamn stratosphere. Not if you were running in circles. If your house was going in circles or going up and down, you wouldn't be able to capture it with the flashlight. You would think maybe it's there, but maybe it's not. Wait, if it's just, I would be able to say, hey, there's a house going up and down in circles. What the

Can we animate this? Look at here I'm just saying that there's something that there's something going on here because if if the United States military really wanted to know

or didn't know and wanted to know about what was going on here somebody would have done something to where that that would have happened by now. So, you can't mean to tell me that if it's a foreign government

or a foreign fucking intelligence from outer space that the United States military would not have some inkling of, we have to fucking find out what this is. Because the way the federal government is playing it off,

it's nothing to worry about. We can't really tell you anything about it. We don't know exactly where it's from, but it poses no threat. Okay, that does not sound assuring at all. The local people around here, from the governor on down, or say, no, this is really happening. These things are all over the place. They're gigantic. They're fast. At times, they're slow at times. I captured one going over my house the other day. But we can't get answers. And the worst case scenario is that it's a foreign entity and our government's allowing them to do it.

Well, but to point being, it just don't add up. Uncle Huck, explain it to me. They're obviously not they, too many pronouns, pal. Whoever is operating. No, no, not the government. Whoever is operating the drones

are not doing a good job of K-Fabin the drones. So wouldn't you think that if the government was doing it, or if for any reason, and the government was allowing somebody to do it, they would have pre-planned and thought, well, if everybody sees these fucking things, what's our story? So that doesn't make any sense

that they would go, you know, nobody's going to notice. What? And again, none of the local mayors who are getting more and more angry in every TV appearance you see from them, none of the local mayors, none of the local officials, police, police. Police.

Police officials, no one you're seeing, including the governor, Phil Murphy, no one is happy with the response and no one believes the idea. Apparently one of the congressmen like stormed out of a media the other day when they said it's nothing to worry about. It's like bullshit. I've seen it. Who was the guy up there that said a mothership from Iran has parked off the coast of the East Coast or whatever and it had sent these things out? Who was the one that said that? It was a there was a congressman from Jersey. I forget his name.

And this is really going to challenge my trademark. The idea that the Iranians are coming with their own mothership. With the mothership. What the fuck? Hey, you've got a kid. Do they have any money over there? You got a case. Well, we'll see.

They may have a change of administration soon. We'll see. Here's the thing. No. You, again, a giant Iranian mothership of some description off the coast of the United States would have been seen, would have been tracked, would have made news in various places around the world. not just if the government wanted

the goddamn carnival cruise line would have blown by and seen it, right? So you can't K-Fabe something like that anymore in this world you could in 1941 for a little while but there's no surprises anymore so this is a surprise and if it was anybody

would it be Iran? Do they have technology where they can just say, fuck it, we're going to take a cruise around Jersey. See what they have to say about it. They ain't going to do nothing. Are they there yet? It smells like the Russians, but who knows? Who knows?

It could be a hobbyist with a fleet of gigantic drones. Well, it's over a military base. That park at sea or wherever they're going. It's over a military base so they could be doing something. Or it's over pig shits, golf club so his Russian overlords could be keeping an eye on him. You never know.

Well, we will stay up to date on this drone issue. I'm looking for the perfect world where one of these things like the drone issue confronts like Raygun or something head on to we get a super segment here on this show. But Jim... If you show the aliens a clip of Raygun, they will go back to their home planet and say we couldn't find any intelligent life.

Well, Jim, we will find out if they would any intelligent life on December 11th, A.E.W. Dynamite, the ratings are in. Wednesday, December 11th, 2024, A.E.W. Dynamite 8 to 10.07 p.m. Oh, boy. All right. Well, on average, A.E.W. I'm flipping papers, Jace. I'm going to note these numbers as they come in. Just don't attack the page. The flipping of the page at the right time is a footprint. It's about the attacking the page. That's the problem. Sometimes I'm aggressive with this paperwork. All right, well, let's see how these numbers were for the paperwork. On average, AEW Dynamite, December 11th, 594,000 viewers.

Oh, so orange is the new black and 500-something thousand is the new 800-something-thousand. You know, this was up 1% from last week. It's down 2% from the trailing four-week average, and this was winter is coming, and I think maybe the fans came as much as they're going to for any of these. AEW shows. I think it's going to be a long, hard winter. It's going to be blue balls January and February, ladies and gentlemen, as AEW goes to max. But let's go to the quarterly breakdowns. Ooh, boy, that's going to be strange. All righty. No, there's some interesting things here. I mean, there's some good things for AEW, uh, in a sense, but there's some interesting stuff here, too.

These were compiled by WrestleMania Corder 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. J. White and Orange Cassidy versus John Moxley and Pack with picture and picture ads 675,000 viewers Wow, that is the lowest open in history of opens in a regular time, right? Russellnomics has a trend line

that's dotted, so it's hard to see exactly where it goes. It appears to be about 100,000 off the trendline average of the first quarter. and by the way we love his numbers i love them when you read them to me but if i try to look at one of those charts or graphs or power points or whatever the fuck it looks like tony con's continental classic graphics to me well we'll have more about that our new feature uh you pay us and i read things to you but ladies and gentlemen quarter two did i give the number yeah i did quarter two yes yes you did quarter two eight fifteen eight thirty p m the

continuation of white and orange versus Moxley and Pack with the postmatch with Hangman Adam Page and the Death Riders followed by an ad break and then a John

Moxley backstage promo followed by the Dick the boozer followed by the beginning of Christian Cage's live promo where he calls him a drunk 6303 33,000 viewers. Well, it wasn't anywhere near their normal first quarter drop.

We can say that for them is only 42,000 people, but they started 100,000 down to begin with. You know, it's interesting. Moxley has been over the last month, I think he was one time in, or maybe two times in the last segment. He was in the 9 o'clock hour, and now he starts to show.

He's dragging down the interest in every quarter he's in. I think it statistically can be shown here. But let's go now to quarter three, 8.30 to 8.45 p.m., the Christian Cage hook angle, and the start of Claudio Castignoli versus Will Osprey, with picture-in-picture ads, 619,000 viewers. Well, again, the positive news is that's not many. It's only another 14,000, but it's not precipitous. We'll be going out of quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m.

Claudio Castignoli versus Will Osprey continued. The postmatch with Darby Allen. Ricochet's backstage promo. MJF? He says MJF angle. MJF getting out of the car. It's not an angle. We got an angle of MJF from behind, the camera angle.

An ad break. The Zach Ryan. backstage promo, Zach Ryder, Matt Cardona. It says Zach Ryder here. That was his slave name, wasn't it? His backstage promo, the Kyle O'Reilly Undisputed Kingdom backstage angle, 596,000 viewers. Oh, so there's another 194, 23,000 and they got to pick something. up at some point because they're not going to be able to make their average at this rate, but they are right now 2,000 viewers off the overall average of the program in quarter four. Well, Jim, we go to quarter five. You know what that is?

The big 9 o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m., the big Kyle O'Reilly, Adam Cole, match with picture and picture ads. With MJF hanging in the ballot, they should have put MJF on a poll. The post-match with Undisputed Kingdom and MJF and the FTR backstage promo, 554,000 viewers. Oh, good Lord. The Adam Cole effect. So that was a drop of 42,000 more at the top of the hour, and now they're down 121,000. And again, how are they going to keep this up and get that average. Does a bus pull up in a parking lot? With talent?

They just come out. Let's go to quarter six, nine-fifteen to nine-thirty p.m. By the way, that used to be when we'd run spot shows at schools. Nobody was there. We'd stand out there, all of a sudden a school bus would pull up. And then finally, when we opened the new Davis Arena in 2002,

for OVW I'd been wishing that for 20 fucking years that I'll be a son of a bitch of a school bus didn't pull up when we were already turning people away anyway We go out of quarter six 915, 930 p.m. An ad break.

The Learning Tree's backstage promo wouldn't even talk about how awful this is now the joke is that he just he gives subway paths that don't exist he just names random places and random orders. Yeah, I just skipped over it for last. of space. This is why he's in Ring of Honor.

A recap, the Darby Allen backstage interview, and the start of Rick O'Rourkechay versus Brody King, 558,000 viewers. Well, they're headed back in the right direction. They lost $121,000 and then picked up $4,000. Well, let's see what happens next quarter 7, 930, 9.45 p.m.

The continuation of Rickashay versus Brody King with picture and picture, the private party, Leo Rush, Action Andretty, Top Flight, and Layla Gray, who look fantastic. Backstage angle,

followed by... Backstage angle, it was a pissing contest at best. They argued with each other. It all walked away. Well, that was a pissing contest. Two of them shook hands. And then all in Texas video, 594,000.

and viewers. Holy shit. What, again, what now? 594. The 36,000 came back out of nowhere. Son of a gut. Who was the main part of that segment again, after all that gibberish? Once again, Rick-A-V-Shea versus Brody

King continued from the previous quarter, which was 558, the private party Leo Rush Action Andretti Top Well, okay. Lola Gray, backstage angle. That wasn't it. And the All-In Texas video. So does ricochet still have a little cachet with this audience that people got on the phone and said, hey, the fucking kids flipping around? Well, if it means more promo time, we'll see what happens. Let's go now.

Because now that is their actual overall average, 594 in quarter seven. They nailed it. Let's go now to quarter eight. I remind you, we have a seven-minute overrun, quarter eight, 945 to 10 p.m. an ad break, Mercedes Monet and Anna Jay's backstage angle, the start of Mariah May versus Mina Shirakawa, with picture and picture ads, 549,000 viewers. Oh, they flipped at four and at nine. And then, seven-minute overrun,

the continuation and the return of Tony Storm, 533,000 viewers. 189,000 in the key demo So, go ahead. 201 for quarter eight, for anyone who thinks like these women angles are really connecting, that was the low point of the regular not overrun show, 201 in the key demo for dynamite. The good part, they only lost in regulation from start to finish, a hundred and

26,000 people, which is less than they normally lose. The bad thing is they started with a hundred thousand or so less than they normally start with. And by the way, do you know what's scheduled now after

AEW's regulation period on TBS? Yeah, because my DVR recorded until 30 minutes after the hour, so I got to watch a bit of wipeout. It was actually enjoyable. I liked it. Wipeout with John Cena. Yeah. John Cena follows AEW and they ran the wrestling audience off.

They started out with 533,000 people. So, yeah, there's that. I mean, what did they expect with this? You know, again, this was for Winter is coming. I think they thought this is a big lineup. I think they think the Continental Classic is good for business. I think they think they're elevating their young guys. I think they think that

with the Moxu thing I don't know what they think I don't know if they think it needs time I don't know if time is going to be friendly It does need time Whoever came up with it needs to be given three to six years

in federal prison I don't think you can get away with home incarceration on an offense like this I don't know if time's going to be favorable to this angle but Time

ain't on his side No, it ain't. So AEW is kind of in an interesting position. I don't know if you saw the main story in the Wrestling Observer newsletter this week was kind of Dave Meltzer not avoiding that AW has issues while also pointing out, you know, positives and putting a real positive spin on them. They're still going to make money. But at the same time, not just saying outright, who's at fault.

for all of these problems and why the problems are there. And I guess this comes on the heels of, we talked about in advance all in Texas. I guess word is that maybe they sold 6,000 tickets. They got like a $1.2 million gate. So you think, wow, a million dollar gate. That used to be a big fucking deal. Yeah.

They got a million dollar gate, day one, 6,000 tickets. But what are your thoughts on the state of AEW and what's going on? and that's one thing they've mastered is fewer people will pay a overall larger amount for each ticket or whatever that Dave's column or piece article whatever the case talks about the ratings drops that have happened and talks about that the arena attendance drop had happened before the ratings drops and he goes into a lot of detail on previous promotional wars in the territory days.

Whether they're St. Louis to 40s, Montreal in the 70s, the IWA, all that, that we've talked about in various points in time. Sheik and bruiser. But you can't compare anything happening today to the, and he even mentions that, of course, that's all ancient history. Well, why did you spend half a page? although that's the most interesting part for me.

But you can't compare that anything now to the Territory Day wrestling wars because it was two different groups fighting over the same specific towns, fighting over the same specific buildings, fighting over the same specific TV stations and the same specific fans. It wasn't, except for WCW and WWF

in the, you know, 90s. It really started with Crockett and Vince. You know, but two national promotions from the start, it was WWF and WCW, and they were even more equal in terms of star power when they finally, when WCW finally started bringing the names in, Hall and Nash and Hogan, etc. After that horrible early 90s period,

that's the only thing you can compare to because it wasn't they're fighting for the whole country and they're not fighting for a specific handful of TV stations you know in broadcast stations in specific markets and only one or two suitable buildings in any town for wrestling that was that's why those wars were so fierce and they didn't last long but now with TV,

networks and corporate ownership and fucking billionaires. It can go as long as whoever's paying for it wants it to go pretty much. But the WWF and WCW war, as I said, was more competitive because they kind of started, you know, somewhat equally back in the 80s with Vincent Crockett's numbers. And they always stayed somewhat comparable, except for that shitty period in the early and then they were kind of comparable again and then everything went crazy. But the problem here is not

that people wouldn't maybe watch a second wrestling show but this second wrestling show has gotten shittier and shittier. The talent being picked to be pushed is not competitive. Dave says you've got to make new stars. Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. but you've got to be able to pick the right people to try to make them and tony has not done that from the start he has bought stars and brought stars in and diminished them but he hasn't made one from scratch and people could say mjf he made himself and it's it's not about two promotions going in with comparable talent

and loaded up shows and hot shotting and burning something out. It's about Tony just couldn't do this. And the stars that he did get that were meaningful, the few ran counterproductive to his indie wrestling mindset and crew of EVPs, one of whom escaped to become the biggest baby face in business. That's, Dave won't say that. because that would be directly offending Tony. So he will speak in generalities about you've got to make stars

and there's got to be the interest in this and that. But that's the problem. And people have figured out that this thing has run like romper room because all the backstage drama. And people blame punk for that. There have been people with punk. No! It's punk!

Call HR! Before Punk got there there were people punched each other and after he's gone there's still people fucking pissed at each other and suing each other. But that's the thing

it's turned out to be a big budget national version of a local fucking indie with a bunch of goofy indie fucking people. And that's the kind of shit that happens in the goofy indies. But unless you're,

you glue yourself to an indie message board, you don't hear about it. But only this is hundreds of millions of dollars. But you see, there's a couple of things, I read that article because, you know, the same way you saw, a lot of the listeners sent it over. I think the disconnect is, one, when you say, well, things are great, the matches are great, and the pay-per-views have been great. They're great to a smaller and smaller audience for a reason. And part of the reason is that the matches.

that are great to some people or maybe not what... That's not what's going to do it for a bigger audience. And secondly, in terms of the people Tony Khan has to elevate, he has to elevate young stars, they've spent so much TV time on Wheeler Yuda. That's maybe the worst case scenario, the worst example. Daniel Garcia, not as bad as Yuda. You know what they did?

They had it with Wardlow, and then as soon as the next night, or the Wednesday after, MJF fucked off, they blew it with Wardlow's booking. Yeah. But that was the best case scenario because he looked like a wrestler. He was big. The fans took to him.

They were chanting his name. He was super over. But you know, in hindsight, I don't know. Obviously, they botched it, but I don't know if he would be any better off today because I don't think since we've heard him lately, or not lately, since we've heard him since then talk. And I don't know whether he would have had the ability to grab it by the balls. But I think that fucking Hobbs is maybe who they really missed a boat on. And can you imagine as much TV time as Garcia and Wheeler and Commander or whoever the fuck the rest of the morons are?

Hologram! Yeah, where did he go? Did he disappear? Into gravity. Gravity pulled him down. But, you know, Hobbs has everything. But nevertheless, that's, you know, that's the thing is, these matches are repetitive and redundant and indie.

Indy level matches. The people that they had that could have non-Indy level matches, Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, MJF, FTR, few and far between and for various reasons have been nullified or left, left the building. Hey, look at Ricky Starks. you want to talk about a younger wrestler I don't know, was agey, maybe in his 30s now,

but a younger wrestler in terms of exposure on the national stage, who the fans took to as a heel and as a baby face, and who knows what the fuck happened? All of a sudden he just went home and never came back. But that's another example of someone...

And it has mentioned lately, yeah, I'm ready to come back. I can't wait to tell everyone what's going on when I can. That's the other thing. For anyone who already doesn't have some sort of NDA in place, Tony's move now is going to be making everyone sign everything. His biggest fear is ending up in the shoot interviews he watched as a kid.

Yeah. And he's going to do everything he can to get all these guys who have plenty to say to shut up. That was the big thing with Cody. All of a sudden there were NDAs in place for Cody to leave. What were he so afraid of? What was Cody going to say? You smell like weed? I mean, what's it going to say?

I mean, what's he going to say? I don't understand. That's the thing is it's... I want to hear what Brandy has to say, not Cody. Well, you see where Tony's... Oh, come on now. Come on now. You see where Tony's soft spot is as soon as the guy said,

hey, his father pays him to stay home, well, fuck them and pull all the guys and everything. He doesn't want people to tell people that he's not able to do this because he's always thought he could do this. and Dave has apparently propped him up all this time. You can do it, you can do it. And now Dave has to figure out a way to write about the fact he can't do it while not telling him to his face that he can't do it.

But it's the picking of the wrong people to push. Talent judgment is the biggest part of being a booker. It's the repetitive indie-style matches that now nobody gives a shit what happens to the human body because they've seen it all. it's the nonsensical booking that can only be kept track of by people who spend hours a day in a notebook

with friends on the internet keeping track of the points in the tournament type of thing it just makes no sense to normal people and the ability not to be a boss but be a friend and have your backstage be a shit show where the boys can say what they'll do and not do, come up

with their own shit and stick it in the program and work with or not work with whoever they don't want. And if nobody's happy, we'll go home. Your check will be in the mail. Just go home because I don't want to have to argue with you because we're friends.

Just sign this though. Just sign the and never say my name ever again. But that's we've been saying this and that's what's matter and there hadn't been any new developments in anything that's the matter. It's the same thing. It's just a cumulative effect of losing the fans and the viewers' patience because they have to put up with this one after another after another.

And now they're left with, you know, and they're still, you know, losing them, but they've run off all the people who wanted to watch wrestling, and instead it's this indie fucking mindset bullshit that is continuing to run people off and continuing to not make the program successful and everybody thinks they're making fucking movies. Well, on the topic of the state of AEW and looking at the Indies too, this thing with GCW because you brought it up.

They've now pulled, well, we brought it up together, I guess, because they pulled Ricky Starks, they pulled Willie Mack, they're running the Hammerstein, which, you know, obviously people there saw as a issue. No communication. What came out that I thought was the most interesting was the promoter saying he's never heard from Tony Con ever. Because they've had a lot of things with Moxley

when he was AEW's top star where he was showing up there. But now AEW seemingly looks like they're trying to punish them for the comments one of their wrestlers, Effie, made. If you're AEW right now with everything WWE's doing, do you want to push away

one of the larger indie promotions and again we may not be fans of the stuff we've seen but they're one of the bigger companies getting fans to see the wrestlers who they're bringing into their shows out there well do you push because do you want to because AEW needs relationships in this country and all their relationships

are like New Japan AAA Stardom like all these companies that aren't going to help them Why do they need relationships with people in this country? To help get future talent. If WWE is right now actively locking down every talent pool they can, either by going after the schools, the promotions, or IDing the individual wrestlers, the goal of that is to shut AEW out of talent.

Okay, well, then here's an idea. Because before, and in the past, I have been a proponent of different promotions working with the smaller cut. Ring of Honor, working with smaller regional, local guys and booking some of the, in the Carolina, as in the Midwest,

booking some of their guys on our cards, not to just make them look like jobbers, but so that some of their fans will want to come and they'll look like bigger stars, whatever the fuck, or in other places. But that was because everybody was doing legitimate business. and trying to make a profit.

And right now you can't, there is no reason for Tony Kahn with national cable television and streaming coming up and a billion dollars in a bank and this level of talent in this production to work with a fucking indie that the bank addicted drug robber

is the best friend of the promoter and they do death matches. And I'm sorry, fuck all of you who wants to see that shit. Something to matter with you mentally. But they do need to... What kind of talent are they going to get from there anyway? They spent $50 million on a video game. So why don't this guy take...

Maybe Ring of Honor should be that, but that's another toy for him to book or let Will Whitten or Alexander Pepper Day maybe pitch in or whatever. Maybe some of the boys can make it up and he'll bless. I don't know what's going on.

But just start a fucking training program and sign up some of these goddamn just the same thing the WWE's doing. Sign up some of the goddamn indie level guys for a not a life-changing amount of money, but for a legitimate

amount of money that they could live on and train and work out, not have to wait tables, and et cetera, and they're beholden to you and you get first crack at them. But that would mean that he'd have to run a subsidiary of a business

professionally and successfully when he can't run the goddamn main business professionally and successfully. But that's... he doesn't need to work with every fucking body you want to bring in Japanese talent work with New Japan you don't have to work with every goddamn girl's indie that fucking does

fetish matches in somebody's apartment with a curtain over the fucking door Emmy Sakura what the fuck remember seeing that I just heard some clip I just heard a clip of Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltz are arguing again because I guess the date of before, or whatever it was, right before Mina Shirakawa was going to get her world title match, she got, like, the shit kicked out of her by Emmy Sakura in a match on collision or whatever. And again, we don't care, but Alvarez is like, how could the challenger get the shit kick out of her by Emmy Sakura? And Dave's like, well, you know,

Emmy Sakura's never won a match in AW. Again, there's a lot of problems there. Anyway, but at least they had a ring. And they weren't in somebody's apartment with furniture in it coming out from behind a fucking shower curtain. That's what I'm saying. Tony didn't need to go. That was because of Kenny's thing with,

oh, these Josie princesses should be seen. Have you a Japanese talent pipeline for major Japanese talent and maybe one in Mexico, although I have not seen any Mexican talent since Alucha brothers

on his roster that made any difference because there's 18 million of them. presented the same way and doing the same shit. And you've got a hundred and God, what did we say, 200? Did we figure that out? Wrestlers under contract. Concentrate on 80 of them before you worry about

where am I going to find my new talent? What the fuck? A lot of them are working, though, in the at-home program. And there's no way that I would have been letting the plumber dick the boozer. He wouldn't have been working. independence even for a legitimate

professional promoter much less the guy that does garbage matches because I would say to him I'm sorry that you have this fetish John for whatever this fucking garbage hardcore fucking death match wrestling bullshit is but I pay you millions

of dollars a year I don't want my world champion on a fucking show that does that shit and I don't want you getting hurt on somebody else's show doing that shit when I'm paying you So you will work for me. The guy making $125,000 a year,

I'll let him do some outside dates because he needs the extra money and if he's only making $125 for me, I don't give a fuck whether he gets hurt or not. That's the way of fucking promoter talks. Sorry if I offended anyone. Well, real quick, we'll end with this in this conversation about the state of AEW.

I have a quote here from an interview Tony, did at the All In Texas ticket on sale event with Mr. Rightway whoever that may be. What? What now? Are they having a drugstore fucking sponsorship now? Oh, that's right aid. I'm sorry. It's spelled W-R-I-G-H-T. So, Rightway,

Mr. Rightway. He asked if A-E-W would produce another another console game, and if so, when. Here's what Tony said. Let me read this to you. Well, it's a great question, and I think it was a great experience for us. And now it's going to be something for AEW

as a multimedia conglomerate, a worldwide corporation, definitely. It was a great first entry with AEW Fight Forever. Wait a minute, hold on, I zoned out earlier, but let me catch you up with you. You missed several. People could still play AEW Fight Forever all over the world.

And I think eventually, absolutely, we'll keep putting AEW games into the world. But right now, we're fully... But right now, we're fully supporting AEW Fight Forever. And I'm excited about AEW Fight Forever. There's still more wrestlers and exciting things happening with the game. And, you know, I think there's a lot of opportunities in the world of gaming, to your point. What? What? Oh.

You know, as soon as you hear, well, it's a great question. Now, he starts so many of his answers that way. Did it, bring me up to date. Did this thing suddenly start selling the video game they did, the fight forever, or is it still on sale? We saw people tweeting pictures of it on clearance at Walmart or whatever. It didn't do what they had hoped it was going to do. I think everybody agreed on that,

but is it still out there, or is it just now just, floating around. It's still out there. Technically, they could still update the game, but no one bought the game. The people that did buy the game seemed to return a whole lot of those games, the physical units, the people at digital downloads. Maybe fuck, I got a copy because it was free. It was part of the PlayStation plus free games in a month. So I was able to download it. I didn't pay for it. But you could pay for, I guess, packs where you get different wrestlers, maybe pack, actually. You get different wrestlers and you get to use them. But apparently the game itself sucks so bad that no one wants to do any of that.

So they have a game that no one plays that they still fully support. It's a great question. Definitely. A.W. As a multimedia conglomerate. A multimedia conglomerate. So he owns the Dallas Times Herald now. A worldwide corporation.

Because my dad got me an apartment in London. Great, Mark. A worldwide corporation. Hold on. Hold on. mention his dad getting an apartment? I didn't mean that in a bad way. I meant that in a pleasant way. That's like, oh, come here, son, let me buy you this penthouse.

Give you an apartment. Let me catch you this penthouse. Meet your new doorman. Cadbury. So, uh, we'll see what else Mr. Wrightway can find out about this in the future. But that's the state of AEW. And Jim, do you think AEW right now, if everyone knew about the wrestling business the way we do, would AEW right now be able to go out and get insurance? Well, it depends on what kind of insurance, Brian,

because I don't, if they were to try to go out and maybe get fire insurance, I don't know because sounds like they're about to have a fire sale over there. But I think health insurance, that's what they need, because they're risking their necks out there. And who knows what Tony Kahn's insurance plan is, but I'll tell you what, folks, if you want to go to one of America's leading insurance brokers with nearly 40 years of experience helping over 2 million customers

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And you know it's that time of year. You got to get the health insurance. You got to check into that type of thing. So now's the time. You're only going to get sick and die from here, folks. there's really not, it's not like anybody ever feels better as they get older. Again, let's focus on the positives, and if you need insurance, once again, Jim. Yes, selectcrowe.com slash jCE. What are you laughing about the fact that people are going to deteriorate?

This is not a laughing matter. This is a serious matter. Age, I'm telling you, when age sets in, you deteriorate. You're right in of your fucking very eyes. Look in the mirror. You'll see shit falling off of you. All right. Well, we're going to say select quote. Once again, what's that link, Jim? Well, it's not a link.

It's a slash slash selectquote.com slash JCE. Well, that is a link for the record. Is that a link? If there's a slash there, it's still a link. Well, it might be the missing link. I don't know. If there's a dot com, it is definitely a link. Oh, well, I thought that was a dot com, a website, not a link.

All right, well, let's link ourselves back to reality here. Jim, several listeners sent this in a couple weeks ago. ESPN has put together their list of the 30 best pro wrestlers under 30. Oh, I can't wait to hear this. The author of the column is ESPN. What's if the whole company contributed? It was such a massive project. The next generation of professional wrestling is already in peak position to be the future faces of sports entertainment. Oh, good, Lord. So already we're adopting a tone of calling it

right down the middle, the positives and the negatives. Last year, ESPN took on the unique task of highlighting the young stars, the top young stars, excuse me, across WWE, AEW, New Japan Pro Wrestling and other wrestling promotions worldwide. The result was the inaugural list of the 30 best professional wrestlers under the age of 30. Why under the age of 30? In wrestling, the sports... Who under the age of 30? Why under the age of... Let me clarify this.

The sports top stars usually peak in their 30s. John Moxley, formerly Dean Ambrose, won his first WWE Intercontinental title at age 30. Charlotte Flair won the first WWW women's championship at age 30. Swarves Strickland won his first AEW World Championship just this year at age 33. But you know what? Charlotte started late to begin with, and the rest of them spent 10, 15 years on fucking outlaw shows before anybody noticed them. below is our second edition of the 30 best pro wrestlers under the age of 30.

The rankings were based on merit rather than future potential, which is far more subjective. The criteria included drawing power, popularity, skills, position on the roster, and accomplishments. Well, hold on here, because position on the roster if you've got Pavarotti and you're fucking booking him to be the, you know, one guy in a 15-man chorus,

then that's not Pavarotti's fault, is it? So they shouldn't consider position on the card because that's not up to the talent. And secondly, what was the last criteria? The criteria, drawing power, popularity skills, position on the roster, and accomplishments, including championships and tournament victories.

Again! What to fuck? You could have the greatest wrestler in the world and they never fucking put a belt on him or had he even win anything. But go ahead. A dozen different promotions were represented in our voting across multiple countries. Oh, and here, I guess here's the list of people who provided analysis on the final list. Andreas Hale.

Mike Coppinger. David Dennis Jr. Arda O'Kowell. Brandon. I heard of him. Branding Caldwell and Eddie Masonette provided analysis on the final. I've heard of Arda O'Kal because he has done MMA and or wrestling commentary in a variety of places for some time, right? Or talk shows about same and things like that. He's done something and I know he's done something

because his name always stands out because it's the only name I've ever seen like that my life. Yes, yes. I always think of Alan Alda. But otherwise, who are these fucking people? Editor's note, along with the writers above, special thanks to Mark Ramundi and Sashin Chandon for their voting participation in this year's list. Well, Mark Remondi is, what connection did he have with the UFC? Oh, I was thinking he was like the sports media reporter. Why do I? Okay, then maybe. he's the UFC beat coverer then. The other person I don't know. But nevertheless, okay, top 30 under 30,

number one is Braun Breaker, correct? Number one, age 27, Dominic Mysterio. Okay, then the whole thing's fucking blown already. Promotion WWE last year's rank number five. The son of the legendary Luchador Ray Mysterio has become the ultimate heat magnet in pro wrestling. from his mullet and cartoon villain mustache

to his dastardly relationship with Liv Morgan. Dastardly. Which only... Maybe you didn't say bastardly, maybe? Which only amplified the hate. Mysterio cemented himself into a full-blown heel in an era where there are too many cool bad guys. He's easy to hate,

but has quietly improved his in-ring skills to match his persona. He has become a constant presence on WWE television who never wears that as welcome. Instead, showering him with deafening booze has become the best part of the show

for most. Well, there it is. There's the reasoning behind it. What are your thoughts? Well, and also pointing out the, but I guess this is an analysis of people

for the layman in the audience and not a professional, on either side of professional analysis, but, you know, mentioning his cartoon villain mustache or whatever. I love Dominic. He's a heat magnet. He's done a great job. But if they're trying to assess a list of the 30 best pro wrestlers,

meaning the ones that right now are tremendous and are going to get better and they're all under 30, and you don't have brawn breakers number one, your whole fucking list is goddamn cocky. Well, number two on the list at the age of 28, MJF, last year's number one. He's number two this year. And I agreed with it last year, and this year I agree that he ought to be probably highly placed, but behind Dominic, but not behind Braun Breaker.

And they wrote a very, a very, very glowing review of MJF. Number three on the list, age 29, right at the limit. Tony Storm. A.W. last year she was 16. Storm is the perfect example of a wrestler reinventing themselves in a post-W.E. world. In this post-modern society,

I think what she's done is spectacular. They're riding for Marx now, and this is not a serious business analysis. Number four, age 28. Ria Ripley. WWE last year she was number two Okay didn't even think about Ria But yes and she's under 30

Then she should have obviously But ahead of Tony Storm As she is in every other fucking category in the world But you've got Bronn You got Ria And you got Dominic I would go with 1-2-3

Based on anybody that I'm not thinking of I could buy that but, you know, they're starting to bore me. Well, number five on the list, age 26, Mariah May. Oh, Christ on a Cracker. Mariah May. It says here, known for her Christ on a Cracker move. Yeah.

She was not rated last year. Number six on the list, age 29, right at that limit, last year's number eight, Kenoske Takesha. Ha, ha, ha. Canose, I can't say his name. Knozkekeke. Tekeshta. Well, and I agree that he should be on a list of top 30,

but now that he's behind Maria May, it's somewhat of goddamn embarrassment at this point, isn't it? Number seven on the list at the age of 27. Jack Perry. Jack Perry last year he was number 13. Did Bronbreaker, was he born out of wedlock when his father was only like 13 years old and his 35 secretly?

Number eight, on the list at the age of 25. Kyle Fletcher. Kyle Fletcher from AEW. Last year he was not ranked. But last year ranked, number 29, was number nine on this list. At the age of 26,

Daniel Garcia. Daniel Garcia, the new million dollar man for AEW. Jim number... There are really one, two, there are three legitimate superstar level talents

that are that are right now superstar level talents and one that can be on this list so far. Dominic, MJF, and Ripley are there and our boy take might can be. Otherwise, they're just jacking off the fans that buy the magazine now or the website or whatever. Number 10 and this is a real big story last year, number 30 on the list

at the age of 27 it's Shoda Umano from New Japan pro wrestling Shoda who the fuck have we seen him on AEW

the fans in New Japan what is this picture they got a picture holding up like a vibrator or something I don't know too much about him number 11 on the list age 27 brawn breaker

well thanks for stopping by Braun. Last year number six. What do they have to say about Mr. Breaker? Breaker is both Steiner Brothers in one. He has the explosiveness of his father, Rick, and the charisma of his uncle, Scott. He's one of those professional wrestlers

who looks like he should be on SportsCenter for his real-life speed and athleticism. His rise in NXT was meteoric. but Breaker showed his main event potential in his feud with Sammy Zane in a best two out of three falls match for the Intercontinental Championship which he won

in August on Raw Braun jumps off the screen and should be main eventing WrestleMania's in the next few years I don't disagree with any of that but yet he's six spots below Maria May and of course right behind him number 12, as you would probably guess Jim, age 28, Caito, Kiomia.

Oh, come on. From Noah and NJPW. He was 21 last year, so he's really climbing high, number 13 on the list. Age 27, El Hiho del Vikingo. Ha ha ha, ha. He was number four last year, so he's really starting to slip, just like when he runs across the top row. Number 14 on the list, Jim, age 29, not rated last year.

Chris Statlander, I didn't realize she was still in her 20s. That's interesting. Well, and, you know, again, somebody with a lot of potential if she could get out of her current environment, but apparently not as much as coyote, come here and see you. Number 15 on the list, last year he was number three, age 27, Austin Theory. Boy, remember when he was fucking great? It seems so long ago now. He's the one casualty of Vince McMahon leaving

that didn't come out better on the other side. There's a story somewhere, we'll find out at some point. Number 16, age 28, Jordan Grace, from TNA and WWE, followed by at 25 years of age. Number 17, hook. Hook! Hook, hook everybody. Hook, everyone.

He was not ranked last year. Number 18, age 25, Tiffany Stratton. Tiffany Stratton of Smackdown last year not ranked. Followed by, of course, at the age of 23, number 19, Mascaro Dorada 2.0. What? The son of Luchador legend, A Festo, and not Mascair Dorada, which could be confusing.

Because he's Mascarederada 2.0. Well, we'll see what else we can find out about him. Number 20 at the age of 23, Roxanne Perez from NXT, not ranked last year. Number 21, 28 years of age. So if everyone who says he'll fill out as it gets older, 28 years of age, Wheeler Yuda. Oh, good Lord. Wheeler Yuda. He's almost 30?

Almost 30. Every point he's drink some milkshakes. Number 22, last year, number 10 at the age of. age of 29, Logan Paul. Number 23, Yuma E. Oagi from all Japan pro wrestling, not ranked last year. Followed by number 24 at the age of 27. Gabe Kidd.

Gabe Kidd from New Japan Pro Wrestling, followed by Utami Hayashishita. 26 years of age. That's a tough one. I've never read that name before. from Marigold, Marigold, not to be confused with gleet or marvelous

or any of the other. What has happened to Japanese wrestling? This guy could be going back and forth amongst all of them. At 26, 23 years of age, Julia Hart, A.W. 27, 21.

Wait a minute. She shot herself, she shot an arrow in the air and then it stuck her in the hair and then she did some other stuff and then we hadn't seen anything in a while. What happened with that?

Well, she was just doing vignettes where she was interrupting number 27 on the list, Jamie Hader at the age of 29. And then number 28, we're almost here at the end, Shun... Number 28 from Dragon Gate at the age of 28, it's Shun Skywalker.

Shun Skywalker. Luke's Japanese cousin. Followed by at the age of 29, number 29, Dragon Lee, and finally, as you all probably guessed, number 30, Yuma and Zai from All Japan Pro Wrestling, number 30 at the age of 25. The top 30 under 30, Jim, do you have a lot of faith

in the future of wrestling? This is looking pretty fucking dim. Look, on this list, Braun Breaker, I'm going to list people that could be, have the potential to be, and or possibly, or probably, will be major stars in the wrestling business. Bronbreaker still got faith in Austin theory,

one of these days. Logan Paul's already there. Poor Stadlander needs help. You got Dom Mysterio's already there. You got MJF. You got Ria Ripley is already there. And I've mentioned Braun. Holy shit. So that's... That's one, two, three, four, five, six, maybe seven people on a list of 30 that are actually going to be legitimate stars in a wrestling business. And when they say AEW needs to develop stars and they do, the people that they have on this list that really represent them, you know, MJF, who is a star already.

He doesn't need to be established. He got there early. That's the difference in him and a lot of people on the list. But we were Yuda and Daniel Garcia. Come on. Against Dominic Mysterio and Rio Ripley and Bronn Breaker, AEW is developing the wrong people. But again, who would develop them?

That's the other thing. They're developing the wrong people, but if they had the right people, they'd be wasting them. So it's not like there's a real loss anywhere. Well, that's what I'm trying to get... It's like... I don't know how many times you can say this. that it's not contradictory by any of the objective evidence,

whether it be gates or ratings or crowd response or YouTube views or whatever metric you're trying, the hottest that anybody is when they come into AEW is when they come into AEW, right or wrong? Always, yeah. Because people like the idea of them and they want to see more of them and they appreciate some talent of theirs

and then so it's not just the talent, it's the presentation. But was anybody clamoring the first time they saw Wheeler Yuda on television to see more Wheeler Yuda? I remember the first time we saw him. It was that Ring of Honor tournament

during the pandemic. the pure championship maybe or it was just it was all like you know guys who could grapple nicely in front of no fans right and we said oh he's he's all right he's really really really skinny and he looks almost exactly the same today as he did then he just has facial hair now but that's the point with these new the new talent it's not only whether or not they have talent and potential but whether they're used properly and you know Mark's made up this list and it shows because

two thirds of the list are not anybody otherwise than people that might go on the card somewhere and that's the problem we need 30 fucking potential superstars over the next five years not seven potential or present superstars

and a bunch of fucking indie darlings and the wrestlers need to step up because they would mostly rather be indie darlings than be professional fucking wrestlers. You can tell because there's so many indie darlings and there were ones that work like it and there's so few legitimate professional wrestlers. Jim, let's get a question here from the Culta Cornet

Facebook group. This was sent in by Joel Clemenson is Austin versus Hogan the biggest match to have never happened. Well, my God, ever, we might be here pouring through Tim Hornbaker books for fucking, and Brian Solomon books for,

you know, several days. Well, you know, but the other thing, as you were evaluating this, the interesting thing is the, what if it had happened, if it had happened, it probably would have been within that window where they would have made the most amount of money possible

for that match. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that may have been, certainly it would have grossed more than any other what-if match. You can go back and say Bruno and Fez, right? They would have done that in Shea Stadium and they would have drawn 30,000 or 40,000 people, but it wouldn't have grossed nearly what Hogan and Austin

would have, you know, 25 years later, or 30 years later, whatever the time frame was. Bruno versus Andre, which Bruno always wanted to do and Vince Senior wouldn't let him do it. Again, that would have been Shea Stadium and that would have been probably 40,000 people.

But at the same point, the tickets would have still been, you know, back in the normal days. Can you think, of Feas and Rogers for the NWA title happened on a number of occasions, it just Thess controlled the finish.

That was a big match then, but that's a different thing. I'll work with him, he just never going to fucking beat me. So that's happened in numerous occasions, and the match has happened. So Bruno Andre, Bruno Thes, Hogan Austin.

I'm trying to think of other, the biggest match, again, just be like wrestlers from different generations, guys that are in their prime, now, like you guys never worked with the Hart Foundation or the Bulldogs. Those are matches for tag team fans. Those are some of the biggest matches that never happened.

And that would have been possible because we were both active at the same time. You can't say Jim Londos versus John Cena. Right. Exactly. Huh. And maybe it. Yeah, you know, the other thing is, if you think about like changing history around altogether, if Flair had come in to the WWF,

in 85 or 86 or 87? Would a program, would Flair and Hogan have actually done more business? Because I don't know if it would have than everything would Hogan leading up to Orndorf and then Orndorf and then Andre. Yeah, no, because Flair had more, what, maybe respect might be the word, but Flair had more respect and cachet and notoriety. with the fans of the early 90s from that run on TBS and with Crockett and WCW,

by the time he got up there, I'm not saying the booking wasn't mismanaged of when he got up there. They could have done the outsider thing better and had the dream match on at WrestleMania and all that stuff, but I don't know that he would have gotten over, Flair, being he, would have gotten over as strong as Flair did

from 1986 to 1990 if he'd gone to the WWF. Because Flair became the guy. Well, they already had the guy up there. So he was only going to, at best, become the co-guy or the second guy. What do you think? As far as matches, I don't think he would have,

I don't think anything was going to do more business than the Orndorf turned in, which was coming off everything from WrestleMania. Yeah. which, you know, led into everything with Andre, which then led into Hogan doing no holds barred. And also, Flair got over because of the NWA style of wrestling and the Crockett style of the program

and the promos and the matches and not, you know, Vince's style. I'm trying to think of any other good examples of the, you know, I mean, one that it wouldn't have been the biggest match if it had happened, or it's not the biggest match that didn't happen, but in terms of matches that were teased and you never got it, Lawler and Piper. not like when oh yeah in 82 yeah not the stuff in wf in 94 or 95 whatever it was but the stuff in

Georgia and Memphis hey at that point in time that's when I was going to Norman Dooley's house to watch Georgia wrestling every week because piper and loller were promo in each other and there was going to be a fucking match and holy shit this was great and the interviews were great and then I was a sudden piper's gone and that was the period of time

where was it Oli fired him? I believe so, yeah. It was either an Oli, you're fired or I quit anyway because somebody told me that Roddy at the time wanted to just sit on the beach and partake in his substances. But so the match never took place in the Omni and you never got the payoff of that.

But yeah, for promos, we were dying to see that. And Lawler was the heel, right? That's the way I remember it. Lawler was the heel in Georgia. Yes. In Memphis, Piper was the heel. Well, and the same thing would happen later on with Lawler and the WWF guys that would come in. Brett would be a heel.

Vince would be a heel and whatever. But because you couldn't, it wasn't exposing the business as much as people think it was for Lawler to be a heel on national TV and be a little. baby face in Memphis because the people in Memphis loved him because he had been the biggest heel in Memphis. And then he switched

and he would tell everybody I'm going to do whatever, I'm going to be the old king when I go to Georgia or when I go up to the you know, Minneapolis territory, when I go to Florida,

I'm going to do what I've got to do to beat these guys because I don't care about those people. I love you. And it fucking worked. Well, Jim, the match may not have worked out but you have to think back then, fans,

they couldn't call each other. Some fans were going to Norm Dooley's house. Fans did not have the means to connect the way they do today to say something's happening. I had to call somebody. That's right. They couldn't just call each other at the drop of a hat. You had to go find a pay phone

and have change in your pocket or you had to borrow your friend's mother's phone and charge a long-distance phone call. Remember long-distance phone calls, Brian, they were expense-giv. Well, all that stuff, doesn't happen now you can call Zimbabwe or Zambodia on a mint mobile phone plan it costs you the same thing $15 a month call wherever you want do whatever you want imagine if there was any other service

in the world that for $15 a month you could use it 24 hours a day seven days a week and do whatever you wanted on it and they weren't going to charge you anymore Brian would that be the hottest product in the history of the world. Hot stuff. Hot stuff. Then why are people not talking about the $15 a month phone plans at Minmo? Well, I guess they are talking about it because that's what we're doing. MinMobile has the premium wireless plan starting at $15 a month for the three-month plan. They got the high-speed data, unlimited talk and text, and the nation's largest 5G network. Do we ever figure out what the 5Gs are?

The 5Gs? It's one of my favorite soul groups, actually. No, no, that was the 5 stars now. Oh, that, oh, wow. Child, things are going to get easier. See, I was just making up a song. You just weren't right with something that's out there in the public. Out there, it's out.

I'm telling you what, it's out there. And you can hear it on the MetMobile phone plan, because you can look up the goddamn YouTube on the phone and just play it to your heart's content. Hold that phone up next to your head. Use your own phone. So it's already got your stink on it, your fingerprints all over it.

With any Mint Mobile plan, bring your phone number. Hell, we'll all just jump in the pool and have a big party. All your existing contacts tell them to come over to. As soon as you get 30 or 40 people in your house, Mint Mobile will come and they'll fix them all up with a phone plan. For $15 a month. Have I said that, that amount enough, Brian, where they understand how any, that's 50 cents a day,

except in, well, January, March, October, within this 31, so it's less than 50. Can you, are you doing this math? Was I supposed to be doing math? You're supposed to be doing math because in a day, in a day with 31 months in it, in a month with 31 days in it, this plan is less than 15 or 50 cents. a day. It's $15 a month. Now, in February, you're getting fucked. Let's not look at it that way, and I'm sure. There's only 28 days. The average goes way up. I mean, it's still cheap, but in the long run. Let's look at it over a one year period of time.

It will equal out in the end, and in the end, with $15 a month for your plan. You're the winner with Mint Mobile. Tell them about it, Jim. Well, you only have to look at three months because that's the new three-month premium plan is just $15 a month. That's $45. See, you do the math that way. But you only have to look out three months. It's still going to save you money. And for heaven's sake, then, you know, at some point, you can just say,

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You can text photos of your sphincter to people all over town. No, why? No, cook. We're right at the end of this. Come on, again, of all the suggestions, you have the weirdest sicko, sicko, fucko, purvo ideas. That's like that, that time. that I signed a thousand pictures, right? I autographed a thousand color eight by tens for a guy, you know, your friend Jim Cornett.

But in one of them, just because I was getting a little sloppy, along about 784, I signed it something like, you know, fuckwad McGee. And I'm just, because then that kept me going for the rest of the time thinking that one person out of a thousand is going to get a picture in the mail and says, fuckwad McGee. Once again, Mint Mobile, one more time.

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Now it's just moving on music. Moving on, moving right along with, of course, the theme to the Great Brian last. Jim, let's get some more questions here before we wrap things up. Here's a question that was sent via the Culticorneff Facebook group from Joe Morris. where do all the dead birds go? Billions upon billions of birds in the world. Shake a tree and they'll be there. Look in the sky, likely too.

Where do all the dead birds go? So Jim, you're Mr. Nature. What are your thoughts on this question? They go, they fall down and go boom. You've never, what's his name, Joe? Joe has never walked along and seen a bird laying on a ground. happens most of the time they probably drift into unoccupied areas of of the world but but yeah you can walk around out in the woods and you'll see a dead bird every so often so it happens but but then

they don't stay there long because then you got your turkey buzzards and your vultures and your other big birds that haven't you ever seen brian well you got every time you see roadkill up there in there's birds eating on it, right? Not every time, sometimes. I mean, usually it's by the side of the road. That's where you see the dead. Well, it's fresh bird. If it's in the middle of the road,

the birds aren't stupid. That's why the thing got dead because it was in the middle of the road. But on the side of the road or out in the fucking yard or whatever, the big birds are going to come down and eat the little bird. The big birds have come down and eat a fucking rabbit.

Oh, I found a rabbit last summer. Part of a rabbit out in the yard that after it had been a bird. been somebody's dinner. But which part? It's, well, there was various parts of it, but a lot of parts were missing.

You couldn't really have reassembled anything. But it's part it's part of the cycle of life. That's what happens. Harley found out, these moles I've got, ever since they started putting a subdivision in across the road from me, they ran the moles from that 26 acres

all over on this side of the road, and now I've got moles everywhere. And I'm always tamping down mole runs while I'm walking Harley. But she found one of them last summer. Again, it was just with its feet up on its back in a mulch bed laying there deader than four o'clock, deader than Kelsey's nuts.

And I don't know what happened to it, but something happened to it. And then it wasn't there the next day because something came along and ate it. It's the cycle of life. So in conclusion, Jim, where do dead birds go? In bigger live bird's stomachs or tigily raccoons or minks or coyotes or things and such of that nature. Jim, another question from the call to cornet Facebook group.

This one was sent in by David Bromley. We get this one every few years. it always changes. If Jim started a promotion now, who would be the... Oh, good Lord, shoot me! Who would be the first five wrestlers he would sign before being shot?

Ha, ha, ha! All righty, God damn it. Braunbreaker. Because now we're talking about signing now and starting now, so Randy Orton would not be on my list because you know, he's closer to the end than the beginning.

Some of these people, you know, that you would think would be, like, is he going to fucking want this guy or that guy? Well, they might be too old to start right now. Well, you want, obviously, a veteran or two. Well, he's only five, so I guess one veteran, maybe a five. Um, are we're picking Braun Breaker. We're picking Cody. We're picking Gunther. We're picking Rio Ripley.

We're picking. Are you wasting this? that pick? I love Rio Ripley, but if you're not going to have a women's division or if you're not going to, I mean, again, you're picking a woman in a spot of five. Well, I'm not going to start a promotion with five fucking people, but who's the top five? If anyone could do it, you could do it. All right. Well, I believe in you. You know what? They used to have cards with four guys on the card, two singles matches and a tag team match, and that was enough for people. Hey, why does that mass job have a tattoo on his neck.

He looks familiar. But no, you want Cody because he's the hottest baby face right now in a business. You want Bronbreaker because he's a future baby face or heel. You want Gunther because he's a tremendous

heel right now. But people respect him. You want Ria Ripley because she's a fucking movie star. And if you're going to have any women's wrestling, you feed all the other girls to her. and then now I'm just going blank on because we do like other people, and I don't want to leave anybody out, MJF would be a consideration.

If we thought that we could make people forget the way he's been booked for the last few years. Well, that's a good question too with MJF. If you know you have a wrestler who's still young, but also has desires outside of wrestling, if you could only pick five people, are you giving one of the, response to someone who may want to film a movie for half the year? Well, but if I'm goddamn starting a promotion, there's

going to be enough money involved that maybe he might not want to do that fucking movie, or maybe I might want him to do that movie if I think he's going to make him a bigger fucking star. But I wouldn't want him if

despite how fucking great he may be, if everybody in the world thought he was a fucking puts because he's been booked like an idiot. And fortunately, none of the four people that I just mentioned have suffered that fate. So I don't know about the fifth spot. Because if he's not coming to my mind immediately, then maybe there's something wrong. All right.

So it will be a four man card, ladies and gentlemen. That's confirmation. Well, no, it won't be a four. It'll be four, four people, three people and a woman. True people and a woman. Yeah, I know. I mean, who would you put, who would you, who am I forgetting that we love and think has nothing but a bright future ahead? See, that's the question.

How much of a future do you need? If you're just trying to establish your company, you're not really worried about the wrestler's future. You're worried about the wrestlers now and tomorrow. I get, you know, I hate to say someone like this is a goofy pick, but like a Juice Robinson's the kind of guy that you look at and you say, if he was done differently. Well, yeah, I know. There would have to be more of those because there would have to be

the 30 or 40 guys instead of, but who are the top five, the first ones you'd go after without question, this is... I'll tell you what. Since you took Ria Ripley, I would take Bianca Bel Air. Just so I know I have another woman at that level

in the ring with the fans in terms of how they're over, that I always have that to fall back on. Well, in that case, and I'll take Charlotte. All right, I'll take Greensboro. Some people might say, why don't you take Roman Reigns? Well, he's already part-time to begin with, even though he's a little more part-time.

That's a whole other level of part-time right there. Brock Lesner. There's the thought that, boy, that would make an impact right off the bat. Well, that's the other thing. If you're starting a promotion, hypothetically, the idea you're going to be running six days a week is ridiculous. You'd be based around... Well, who are you to tell me what kind of schedule I'm going to... You're going to probably be based around big shows,

and you need guys for big shows, even if, you know, that means 12 times a year. That's all you need them for. So someone like Lesnar isn't ridiculous. You don't have to worry about Raw. Yeah. The Rick Flair Smokey Mountain Wrestling offer. Just 10 grand a month for one show.

You'd be 12 a year. Only it would be more than 10 grand. Thank God you at Smoky Mountain, like in the works. Otherwise, you would have been the Kentucky Colonel. Yeah. He loved that idea. We'll call you the Kentucky Colonel. Were you going to dress like that?

Do you think if Rick... In Rick's mind, based on what Rick said, yeah. Well, if Rick Flair told Vince McMahon, I want to bring Cornett in to make him my manager and call him the Kentucky Colonel, you think I wouldn't be dressed like Colonel Sanders with a bucket of fucking chicken? Would Vince McMahon have done it? would he have said Kentucky sounds too small time, knowing how Vince is.

Well, but then he would have gone with the Colonel Tom Parker thing anyway, much as they did with Robert Fuller in, uh, in WCW a couple of years after that. Which was an abrupt turn from when he showed up with slaves or whatever it was when Harlem Heat were brought in. That's how he was in like, oh, was it here they are. They came out with chains and everything.

They had to redo that gimmick pretty quickly. But I thank you for your question. Yes, fellow. Who are you? David. Fellow question asker. Mr. David. Jim, another question.

This one sent in via the Culta Cornet Facebook group by Lewis Cardenas. Cardenas. Louis Cardenas. Cardenas. I mean, can be pronounced a whole bunch of different ways. Luis Cardenas. Well, now he just moved across to Argentina. First it was Lewis.

Well, it's L-U-I-S, Louise. All right. Well, what is Lou's question? In the 70s and 80s, serial killers were everywhere, especially in the territory areas. What? Did it affect the business?

Did it affect the business in any way? Or was there any interaction between wrestlers and promoters and those killers. That's the end of the question. Okay. The people need to know. So like, well, remember, wasn't that an excuse

that they used when Ruperina in Lexington when AEW ran a couple months ago and they said, well, the guy that shot this highway was still on the loose, that's kept it. It was 100 miles away. And it was on the side of the road in a fucking county that didn't have as many people as were in fucking downtown two blocks.

of Lexington at that. No, I mean, there may be, who knows, has anybody ever asked or done any research? Did David Berkowitz, the son of Sam, ever go to Madison Square Garden to see wrestling? Did Jeffrey Dahmer ever stopped by to see the Crusher in Milwaukee?

But to my knowledge, to anyone's reporting so far, I don't recall any wrestlers or wrestling personnel or people having any interaction with noted serial killers. Now, I will say, we're sitting in a fucking locker room one time, like 1996-ish. Me and Chris Candido and Tammy and Barry Horowitz, and Barry Horowitz is telling a story. But, guys, did I ever tell you this? No, what are you going to tell us? well you know my aunt lives down in st petersburg and where she lived if you climbed on a shed

in her backyard and got on the roof and looked across the neighborhood you could see the backyard of ted bundy's cousin had got about that response too when he told it wow but uh but i don't know of any didn't someone have a john wayne gasey connection well no that was uh oh god damn um help me it wasn't bobby fulton right no no what it sounds like one of his stories you know that come from no in philadelphia who was it around dennis's shows that was selling like art and and odd stuff not it wasn't professor ouch yeah this was in like 1989 88 89

Somebody up there in Jersey that was associated with Dennis Corleuzo was selling the John Wayne Gacy clown paintings. Or selling someone. I don't know who that is, no. Because I had an opportunity to get one. And my wife at the time was, oh, no, we don't have that. I got Newman. Never got one. But I'm trying to think.

Are you a big fan of clown murderers? A clown. Well, it's one of those things that who has something, you know, one of those things. Uh-huh, yeah. So it's one of those who-haha situations. One of that, who has one of those things. Well, I do. I, who.

Who me. Who you, who me? Who dat? All right, well, this has been serial killers in wrestling. Another segment that murdered here on the show. Let's get another question. Did I drop my thing? I dropped my thing.

I dropped my thing. Confirmation. The thing has been dropped. Jim, this question was sent via the Cult of Cornette Facebook group by Christopher Bennett. In the late 80s, early 90s, there was always a little old lady with a monkey puppet in the front row of shows at the Asheville Civic Center. She'd used it to talk shit to the heels. They'd jaw back.

It was always a big hit with the other fans. Does Jim remember this lady? And if so, any stories? So Jim, at Rigsawd, did you? ever could have to shrunk to a little old lady with a monkey puppet? Well, yes, actually, that was a thing. And we never spent any time when in the Carolina territory, when we were living in Charlotte,

Asheville is only 140 miles away from Charlotte. It was usually a Sunday afternoon show. Every once in a while, it was a TV taping. We never stayed over in that town. and never really, you know, got to know any of the fans on a personal basis. So I don't know what the story was, but it wasn't,

it wasn't uncommon for there to be the, in any town, in any territory, for there to be the local character. And I don't, you know, in the old way of saying it, boy, what a character he is. Remember they had the twin old, ladies in Kansas City, Murdy and Gurney height,

that were identical twins, and they lived to be like in their 80s. They sat ringside every week. And there was bouncing Bula in Knoxville that famous for that clip that's on Twitter ever so often where she's leaning over the rail trying to swipe at Hulk Hogan at a WCW taping. But Bula was there,

Bula Bouchier. She was there in Knoxville for years and years and loved the baby face. and used to have the Armstrong family over for dinner. The chicken lady in L.A. There was a fan who had a chicken. And then later I read something Mike Lano wrote that. Allegedly she gave Dino Bravo VD.

That's all I can think about now. Well, at least it wasn't the bird flu. That can't be true. Can it be possibly true? I don't know. Of course it can. Absolutely it can. But that's...

You know, there were local character, you know, when I was a kid at the Louisville Gardens, not only was their old grandpa who was there every week for so many years. I mean, decades that one week he actually wasn't there because this was in the 90s. He wasn't there because of some medical procedure he had undergone. And they had to have the ring announcer announce he was okay and he'd be back next week. Because so many people were asking. and there was this woman I don't know how old she was

she looked like she defied time and she had round glasses that were as thick as I don't you you couldn't imagine somebody could see through glass that that thick and old straggly hair and we called her fish meat face because she was so pale

and had so many wrinkles it looked like her face was just put together out of fish meat and she had a voice and the only words you could understand were the cuss words and the motherfucker son of a bitch god damn you

and you know they were there every week in the same place in all these buildings week after week year after year and it was my mom when she started taking me to the matches she didn't really particularly care for wrestling but she loved to watch the people

Jim our next question via the cult of Cornett Facebook group was sent in by Blair Reganwetter Oh come on Or Reganwetter Or bedinwetter What he wants to know what is Jim's opinion of Jesse Barr A.k.a. Jimmy Jack Funk I managed Jesse Barr in 1982 in Memphis when I first started after

after Dutch fired me I briefly signed Crusher Broomfield later to become the one-man gang how briefly was it? God he wasn't here but like six weeks after that and then he went to Mid-South

worked for Watson and made him the one-man gang I always said well you know what I'd see him you know in later years I'd say when I managed you I set your career back five years and you'd only been in a business three but Jesse they brought him in. Jesse Barr was the brother of Art Bar, older brother of Art Bar,

Beatlejuice for the fans of that generation in Portland, and Sandy Barr's son, who was the referee and wrestler and promoter out there. And Jesse was a fairly high-level amateur, you know, a local state basis or whatever. And so they brought him in with the gimmick that he had, the 1980 Olympic boycott. He had been screwed out of going to the Olympics, but he was like the greatest amateur wrestler of all time. And bless him, Jesse, was a lot bigger than Kurt Angle, but he wasn't Kurt Angle.

But Jesse, he was six, two or three and 250 pounds or whatever, and he was a good shape, very green at that point. I think he'd been working like a year, and I was brand new, so we, so they put us with Dutch Mantel. I don't know if Dutch had heat at the time. And Jesse was powerful. He could soup. people weren't doing

shoot-style suplexes in wrestling then. So anything he did was unusual in terms of amateur throws and things and he could fucking throw you because he was stout. But it was just, it was a mid-card thing because he was so green at that point. And, you know, it wasn't like it was featured or whatever.

And then I think he went from Memphis because he was part of the the mass exodus when Dundee had brought in Adrian Street and Miss Linda and had been booking him, he brought Jesse Barr in and the sheep herders and when Lawler took the book over, they all had an eight-man loser-leaved town match with Lawler and the fabs and I think Dutch and beat my whole fucking crew all in one night.

I was the only one left. And then I think he went to Florida from there. But what do you... Where they pushed him as a top guy. He had a feud with Brian Blair coming off, Brian Blair leaving WWF. Yeah. And then he got the spot in WWF as the unknown Funk brother with the Lone Ranger mask. What, 86-87-ish when Dory didn't want to...

No? Keep going or what? Tell me better now. Terry went home. His horse was sick. That's right. Terry went home first. So Hoss Funk, aka Dory Funk, continued with his brother Jimmy Jack.

and the only reason he was named Haas is because he had the bald spot and Vincent watched Bonanza Vince didn't want to call him Junior that's the only reason he was called Haas well no he could have got away with Dory Funk and left off the junior if he'd have wanted to but he was a Dan Blocker fan Vince

but it would be Jesse yes had fun he ribbed me and see we're both green but I was greener so he ribbed me and then he tried to rib me again and it backfired because he invited me he had moved his wife was with him and they had moved to an apartment in

Nashville near where I was living and since I was his new manager he has to come over and have dinner on you know Sundays or off night or whatever okay and just I haven't smarting my wife up so don't talk smart you're really my manager and I've just gotten to business I'm like oh now I'm going to be lying to this guy's wife but I understand you know, sometimes they didn't smart

and family up. So I'm sitting there for like 30 or 45 minutes and he's starting to ask me questions that I would have to answer smart and I'm looking at I'm looking like I don't know what to say and I'm thinking

this woman must think I'm a fucking idiot and then she started laughing because it was a rib. She was smart they just wanted to see me sweat. But then at dinner you had you turn it around. Well, at dinner, he gave me a gimmick fucking piece of garlic bread.

There was one piece of garlic bread that they had covered up with all kinds of garlic powdered everything, like a loaded one, right? And they put that one on my plate. And when I ate that, I said, man, this garlic bread is great. I haven't had garlic bread because I love garlic. And their faces fell.

And they were like, fuck, we were trying to fuck with you. Then I had one of the regular pieces. And it was like shit. Tasted like goddamn regular. old bread. Did you have enough garlic from the other piece to spread it on some of the other pieces? Well, I was wanting some more goddamn garlic on the other pieces of bread. So, but at least I foiled their rib. You can't over garlic me. So what happened to Jesse Bar? I mean, everyone talks about the Haku thing, whatever really happened in that bar. They say that Hakku bit off his

nose. But you don't really hear too much about him after that, do you? Well, I think part of the problem was he got caught up in the in the territory of you know constriction where being Sandy Barr's son and being from Portland he would have always had a spot there but you know the the business

there just kind of went and there was really no other place to go I don't know why he maybe he did and you know it wasn't successful or why he never tried to go to WCW but I bet Frank Coburson, Mike Rogers, somebody out there that listens to the show from the Northwest, did Jesse get in another business become a successful businessman?

Or what's he doing these days? Because he doesn't do conventions. You haven't, like you said, either to you. Either to you. So how do you know? Well, no, I mean, for the past 25 or 30 fucking years, I've not seen Jesse Barr doing a goddamn autograph signing or a convention. and he may not be world famous because of his run with me in Memphis,

but he was Jimmy Jack Funk and people with less credentials than that are getting booked regularly. So where's Jesse at? Tell him I said hello. He was in my first match also. Me and Jesse against Jimmy Hart and Coco Ware. Heel and manager against heel and manager, because Lawler's just like, fuck it.

Let's see if that works. And I'd never had a match. before. I said, Jimmy, what are we going to do? He said, when I grab you, just go down and we'll roll around. Just roll around, baby. Just roll it. That's, he, Jimmy wanted to learn enough to work to take the bumps and not get hurt, but he was never really, he never aspired to want to, you know, start from scratch and go, you know, well, let's have a match. Whereas, you know, that's why you just kind of fell down and rolled around. And that's what I was capable of at the time. but then later on,

so, well, I'd like to do a little bit more than roll around. All right. What were you going to say? What was I going to say? I don't know. Oh, you knew what was going on when you got into the business. You were a fan that was following everything happening. Where did you think Jesse Barr's career was going to go?

Well, at that time, there was, you know, 20 different territories. I got to be honest. And now that I put him over and also said, I'll tell him, I said, hello, I don't want to. want to hurt his feelings, but from evaluating, even at my status at that point, from evaluating Jesse's work, he was very big and very strong and very green, and wasn't a great promo, but he could get the physical part of it. And a guy like that in those days, if nothing had changed with the territories, could have worked in the middle in the big territories and on top in some of the

smaller ones after he had a few years experience for the next 15 or 20 years. So it wasn't like, oh boy, he's doomed. It was like, I'm just, I'm getting this guy, he's a fucking rookie. All right, Jim, our final question, and then we'll do something else real quick before we wrap things up. This was sent via the Colticornet Facebook group by Nick DeBruiser. D-E-B-R-E-W-Z-E-R. Jim has said before that the Crusher was one of his childhood idols.

I don't know if I said idle. I'm not sure about that, but go ahead. Jim has said before that the Crusher was one of his childhood idols. When would you have seen the Crusher? Well, no, Bruiser's TV. Was he on Brunzger's TV a lot? Yes. Well, not a lot, but it was like Ruff House Fargo in Memphis.

It was a big deal when Crusher came back. But even when Crusher wasn't there, Sam Minnaker would drop in comments about, you know, the great teams like Bruiser and Crusher. It was talked about. And they were paired up in all the magazines together, the pictures of Bruser and Crusher. They were supposed to be cousins, even though they weren't, but because of their, similar appearance and similar style, but they were a top 10 tag team in the business

for years in the 60s. So even in the early 70s, when Crusher would come in, it'd be Bruiser and Crusher against the Valiant Brothers or Bruiser and Crusher against the Blackjacks, that was a big fucking deal. Once again, Jim has said before

the Crusher was one of his childhood idols. I am the current reigning champion of the Crusher impression segment from the Mr. Saloon contest at Crusher Fest in South Milwaukee. Those are all real things, by the way. Well, yeah, because that's the thing. As big as Brewster was in Indianapolis,

the Crusher was, I think, even bigger maybe as a cultural icon in Milwaukee. And didn't he have a run of sellouts in the Milwaukee arena, like six years? Every show he was on sold out. they have a statue of him in the park you know even I did a show in Milwaukee

for Dave Hero and oh god who else was there well it was a hockey game this was 20 years ago it was a hockey game the Milwaukee Admirals maybe and then Jack Koshik and Dave Hero put on an autograph signing with wrestling legends I was one of

but the crusher was there and this was 2004, 2005, 2006, that era right there, right? And he was goddamn as over as anybody, moreover, actually, than us, than the rest of us. So the people there, Crusher was a big deal. Yes, I'm sorry, I'm droning on. I would love it if Jim could say a few things about the Crusher. The first time he saw him, his impact on the business, how he was received in the southern territories, which I understand was quite different than the AWA, et cetera.

Well, the only time I can think that the Crusher worked a Southern territory was he was working the late 70s, he made some shots in Atlanta. In Georgia, in 79, Georgia, all of a sudden, the Crusher and Bobby Heenan were regulars. Well, from Bobby, I don't know about the Crusher, but from Bobby, the deal was that Vern, especially in the summertime, he only ran 15 days a month. And he didn't run a lot of small spot shows like the other territories did because he was so big geographically in the Midwest. He only ran the bigger towns.

And that's why Nick Bockwinkle told me he loved working there and never really left on a full-time basis because you had a quality of life. You were home a lot. The weather was cold. But you'd work 15, 17 days a month, and he could make on top 150 grand a year. And this was in the late 70s, early 80s. Bobby Heenan had told me that because of the schedule, he got an offer to go to Georgia. I think it was with Oli.

And he moved down there and was thinking about staying because he liked the weather better. and, you know, they had told him something like, oh, you could work here as long as you want. And then something happened that, you know, three months later or four months later, ah, we can't use you anymore, whatever. And he was glad he didn't move. But at that point, some of the,

some of Vern's guys from the AWA started going down there and working Atlanta on a, you know, a brief period. But as far as Crusher... But I guess that's part of the issue. in Verne's territory, in Milwaukee, any of the stuff you would have seen for the Bruiser, you kind of got to see him grow from being the big tough Reggie Lassowski, the Crusher, to an old man with a bowl cut.

Yeah. And then all of a sudden you just drop that into Georgia or anywhere else. It doesn't work the same way. Well, yeah, and that's also the reason why that the schedule up there was easier for Jerry Jarrett to get Nick Bockwinkle as world champion because he wasn't working as often as the NWA champion. And Bokwinkle and Lawler had better matches anyway. But nevertheless, that was the thing with Crusher.

He was a notoriously bad worker and nice guy. And because of the gimmick, he and Bruiser were heels, but it was like a tag team of Steve Austens. They beat everybody up and didn't sell anything until the people started liking them, and then they started working against other heels. And in the 60s, especially again, a Japanese heel team or a German heel team or whatever,

they were easy to pick as the baby faces. And Crusher had had 20 years of TV and 20 years, you know, like you said, in that territory where people saw it change gradually. But then all of a sudden you take a guy that's in his early 50s with a bowl haircut and talking like this and wasn't going to do to poker. with the cuties and a beer barrel over in an Atlanta and they're like what the fuck's going and he was teamed up with Tommy Rich

so Crusher was over twice as old as Tommy Rich was at the time but they were both blonde he's out there with his cigars and out of times yeah and because only remember only was from the AWA from Minnesota and he had seen the Crusher but that that's a thing is

sometimes people overlook that for certain talents, you need the history. You need the history behind them that they had in that one territory they were over. They can't just go and replicate things the same way. But Crush your great gimmick, great promo, tremendous box office draw. He and Bruiser were in the top 10 box office draws in the business as a team. Rotten worker, but it didn't matter in the day because of the gimmick. all right with all apologies to his friends and family for that comment at the end there

well no i think and that's a i think he knew that you know but it didn't matter because he made nothing but money he drew you know huge crap i mean in the early 60s he was working with bruno in pittsburgh in stadium shows i mean he was big in in a variety of places so the fact that he wasn't a dropkick artist, I don't think offended him too much. And when I saw him and he was almost 80 years old, I showed him a wrestling life magazine that I wanted him to autograph for me.

And he glanced at it, not even time to see the date. And he said, ah, that picture must have been 1954 or so at 1954. Well, Jim, on that topic, real quick before we get out of here, because we've got very limited time. Quick round to guess the program. Oh, here we go. You ready? Guest the program.

Programs from my collection. I ask Jim for the day, the territory, and of course... Not the day. And of course the time. And of course the time and the day. That we have to get for this. Three o'clock on Tuesday. Jim, the opening bout.

Red Lions versus Johnny Rico. Red Bastine versus Dory Dixon. And the final prelim. Jose Lafario versus Roy Dupree. A special event. Tommy Siegler versus Chris Colt Semifinal tag team bout Ernie Ladd and Bearcat Wright

versus Mike the Alaskan York and Frank the Alaskan Monty Frank Monty And finally the main event there must be a winner If the match ends in a draw for any reason The referee can add additional falls Crusher Stasiak versus Wahoo McDaniel. Okay, well, through the first three or four matches,

I was like all over the fucking place with this. Billy Red Lions, is it Toronto, Red Bastine, is it the AWA, Dory Dixon, it could be Jamaica. Jose Lothario brought me back to Texas, which Red Bastine has a history in, and Billy Red Lions had popped in, there a time or two. Tommy Siegler and Chris Colt.

I was like, wait a minute, Seagler was big in Florida, but he had a run in the Dallas territory also in the mid-1970s. And so, coincidentally, I believe, did Mike and Jay York were the original Alaskans,

but when one of them would be indisposed or whatever, Frank Monty, who also teamed with Nick DeCarlo, would become an Alaskan. Ernie Ladd and Bearcat Wright, that may be the last full-time run that Bearcat Wright had as a wrestler because he showed up in the summer of 1975

in Memphis as the Mongolian Stomper's manager. And then Stan Crusher Stajak and Wahoo McDaniel, tips me off that it's the Dallas Fritz von Erick World Class territory big time wrestling then before it was world class and the question is I think it's 1975

is it Dallas or is it Fort Worth I'm going to say Fort Worth at the Will Rogers Coliseum what time 815 Jim the date Friday September 15th, 1972. Houston, Texas.

Houston. Son of a bitch. What surprised me and what made me go to this one before I filed away was Chris Colts. Chris Colt being on the card in a special event. New faces see action in the prelims tonight as the fall season brings a crop of aspiring heavyweights to battle for top honors here in Houston.

Headlining the list is colorful Chris Colt a man who motorcycles his way around the country gunning his bike and roaring his way from city to city where he roars his way... Sounds like some Peter Burkoltz copy. Where he roars his way through his matches. Colt, a Canadian, could be the most dangerous of those

who make their debut here tonight, but Roy Dupree, who, it's supposed to be Montreal, who hails from Montreal, will be closely watched, Johnny Rico the Puerto Rican has a lot going... So was that Ron Dupree? I don't know.

There's no picture. It had to be. Chris Colt and Ron Dupree, it had to be. There's a picture of Chris Colt here. But there's that program, I guess. All right. Houston, not Dallas, and I was three years off. But that's...

Ernie Ladd being together with Bearcat right threw me off somewhat. And I was thinking that Stajak, which he may have, had a run for Fritz in 75. But anyway The next one I'm taking out is interesting more for the actual historical importance The information that's here that I thought you'd get a kick out of

The card Best 2 out of 3 falls 60 minute time limit Limits the word 60 minute time limit Sputnik Monroe versus Eddie Sullivan Billy Wicks

2 out of 3 falls against Luigi Massura a 10-minute intermission where there will be lucky numbers announced and finally the main event two out of three fall 60-minute time limit the Corsican brothers Joe and Gene versus Red McKim

and Lester Welch Okay now are you trying to swerve me because I would say Memphis in a heartbeat except I'm afraid of a swerve here You know what? Mobile Alabama.

Follow your heartbeat today. Well, I'm following my heart. Yeah, I see. Yeah, because you got a phone call coming up. It is Memphis because obviously Sputnik Monroe, Eddie Sullivan was a huge heel in the Mobile, Alabama, and Gulf Coast territory in later times. But he was very young in his career at that point.

Billy Wicks indicates a narrow window along with Sputnik in Memphis. This was at the 11th. Ellis Auditorium. And the Corsica brothers, Jan and Corsica Joe and Cron, Jan and Dean, Corsica Joe and Corsica Gene were a top tag team for Nick Gouloson all over the place in the South for many years.

And Corsica Joe ended up marrying Sarah Lee and was the guard on the dressing room door in Nashville for years. And Lester Welch, of course, one of the Welch Fuller family, Red McKim was a big name at this period of time around the southern states. And it's got to be, well, it's either 1959 or 1960. And is this got to be 1959?

It's early and sputs his run? Or is it when he was on his way out? Let me just add this to it says here, Baby Blimp is booked tonight. George Harris. George Harris. And it's signed on the back, Baby Blimp. It may be his signature.

I bet you it is. But he's not listed obviously on the card here. George Harris was a longtime friend of Roy Welch's. He was like a sidekick to Roy Welch. Roy Welch loved him and they always found a spot for him. All right, Jim, the time or anything you want to guess? Oh, well, I said Memphis, 1959 at the Ellis Auditorium unless it's 1960. Beautiful job here.

Memphis, Tennessee, Monday night, November 2nd, 1959. Let me open this up, listen to this. TV wrestling on Channel 13, Saturday afternoon 1230 to 130. Promoter Buddy Fuller has moved our regular Saturday afternoon television wrestling card to Channel 13. It will be aired every week from 1230 until 1.30 p.m. The reason for the change was that Channel 5 could not guarantee that wrestling would be on every Saturday, as they had a series of football and basketball games scheduled. On Channel 13, from 1230 to 130,

no interference was foreseen, and wrestling will be a regular feature on the station. WMCT realizes the terrific amount of viewers that are interested in wrestling, but chose to let Mr. Fuller move to another channel instead of working the wrestling card in their time schedule. schedule. And that grudge would last for 18 years.

Occasionally they plan to run films of wrestling that were actually made from four to eight years ago in Texas. They call it the best wrestling in the USA. Maybe that was right four or five years ago, but here right now

the best wrestling in the USA is here in Memphis at the Ellis Auditorium and on Saturday afternoon on Channel 13. So there's the official, the week it happened. That's incredible. Because that's the thing, Channel 5, when there was no TV in Memphis for some time,

and I'll make this quick, but early in the 1950s, like 50, 51, WMC would go down on Monday nights to the Ellis Auditorium, and they would show a 30-minute or one-hour program of the matches going on live at that time. And bless them, no footage of that still, exist, but then there was no TV wrestling in Memphis for a while. Then when Nick Gulles and Roy Welch,

Roy Welch mainly, took over the city of Memphis from the previous promoter, Les Wolf, they got the TV, but it was Channel 5, and it was iffy, as you just heard, was it going to be on or was it not? And then the golden moment happened where in late 1959, not only had they got Sputnik in there, but also, and he was doing huge business, but then Lance Russell was the program director at Channel 13 and was more accessible,

and Lance started the run and the whole nine yards, and it all came together pretty much at the same time. Well, so, you know, I didn't even think about that, but he's not named there, obviously, but Lance Russell is kind of the person not named in this thing here in the same thing here in the same. the program at Channel 13. Yeah, well, they didn't know how important he was going to be yet.

So that's a that Lance had done wrestling commentary in Dayton at a local studio show in the early 50s before he moved to Memphis. See, he knew how strong wrestling could be for their local TV stations. Yeah. He knew before most people did. But the wrestling company and the people writing that program had no idea that they had just found the guy that would be their announcer for the next 40 fucking years. Well, how about that?

You know, I never realized exactly how it happened, when it happened. It happened right after the, you know, two months after, three months after the Billy Wicks-Sputnik-Mon-Row match that broke the attendance record that still stands, I believe. Yeah. Let's see, that's the thing, is three things happened in a short period of time. Goulis and Welch annexed Memphis in 1957. Originally, it had been its own, it had been separate from Nashville,

and they'd been using talent from St. Louis and Kansas City, whatever. Roy Welch took Memphis over and then put his Buddy Fuller in charge of it for a while and it took it away from Buddy and took it over himself and then they got the stable TV they found Sputnik Monroe and they got Lance Russell

and that all happened in like an 18 month period well like I said I was a quick round to guest the program and also name that tune Jim was telling the truth I really do have a phone call we have to get to So let's wrap this up quickly. Of course, we'll be back on the experience.

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