Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 374: Jim Reviews AEW Worlds End

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

The first Drive Thru of 2025! Jim reviews AEW Worlds End 2024, as well as the CM Punk / Seth Franklin Rollins Confrontation on WWE Raw & AEW Dynamite! Plus Jim talks about The Young Bucks, John Cena vs. Cody Rhodes, CM Punk in a towel, Collision ratings, getting sick and much more! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Good, good. Happy New Year! Am I loud? I must be loud. I'll be adjusting these settings. You're screaming, and I don't know why. Welcome back to another year and another edition of Jim Cornett's Drive-Thru right here wherever you find us. Happy 2025. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last. That was the theme to the Great Brian Last.

And here is The Star of the Drive-Thru. He's feeling good today. Mr. Jim Cornett. what if we don't want to be found what about that wherever you find us what if we're trying not to be found what if we're trying to evade detection what then oh great brian last how do the what what do they where do they turn then it's not it's not about the process of finding someone it's wherever you are found first thing i say to you at a year and you got nothing it's the it's wherever you may be wherever you find yourself not wherever someone finds you well

I find myself in between to rock in a hard place. First of all, we left the people when we did a show two weeks ago. And then we announced we were taking our Christmas break and the fine omnibai have been out there and forced to keep the people happy

on the podcast feeds and the YouTube channel and things of that nature. And we had grand plans for our vacation. And this is the first show we've done. done in those two weeks and in those two weeks not only we left to people with a cliffhanger i was starting to get a little sniffly i was starting to feel under the weather i said am i getting something well not a we we blew we had starcade of sickness because we blew it out not only did i get sick but stacey got sick and you got sick and your entire family got sick over our two

week christmas new year vacation am i exaggeration am i exaggeration rating the level of germophobia here that's been going on amongst our various clans for the last two weeks. There's been a lot of sickness. And for the record, I wasn't. A lot of sickness. I wasn't on vacation. We didn't record, but I worked every single day.

Well, you know what? Our vacation from the world, where we attempt to get away from this for just to clear, as Ernie Ladd would say, to ring your brain out because it's like a sponge. And then start the year new, I had projects. that I was wanting to accomplish. And this story will have a silver lining here in a minute, folks. I'm not just going to vent about the holidays

and cuss Christmas. It might take me a second to get to the silver lining, but I had the things that I wanted to do that required physical activities, the things I've been putting off, the shampooing of the carpets, the rearranging of the garage slash stockroom, as well as, you workaholic,

I was going to spend time in a quality fashion with Stacy and little Harley Quinn but I wanted to feel good to do it but the pretty much a couple of hours I think after you and I finished

recording that last program I can't remember time blurs I decided that I was sick do you hear that ha ha ha I decided that I was sick and Stacey had been sniffling all week

and we said, we're just going to go, we've got a cold or something, we're going to go to the urgent care right over here, it's a mile and a half way, we're going to get some antibiotics and some of them, anabolic steroids they give people, and boom, it's going to knock it right out.

Could you hear that snap, snap? Just like that, snap of the fingers. I've never heard anyone just say like that. Do you actually say, can I have some anabolic steroids? No, whatever, I'd say, give me the steroids, and they determine whether I need that. No, the, uh,

This is the steroids they give you when you got a cold or a flu or whatever. It's the prednisone and the bug tussle or whatever else it is. And clearly people need that and it helps them. I just don't know how many people walk into the doctor's office and demand steroids. No, I'm saying, give me some goddamn Decaduribalin, motherfucker. For you old-time bodybuilders out there, Hercules Hernandez did a fucking promo. I was managing him in Mid-South Wrestling, and I do the brunt of the setup with him and Haxaw-Duggan. pitch it to Herc and he fucking hits a double

bicep and his arms are massive and he's fucking 280 pounds with like 2% body fat and he says see that dugging 10 deck of durable in a day it was a different time but anyway we went over to the aforesaid urgent care and being good citizens

because we got the sniffles and we're sneezing we're wearing our masks as we go into this medical facility, right? And the staff there are wearing their masks also, except the people behind the glass window aren't. But when they take you back, they're wearing a mask and et cetera also. And the first clue, because now you've been seeing on the news, there's a rise in RSV, the respiratory virus. There's a rise in COVID now.

There's a rise in all. kinds of illnesses, flus, and respiratory ailments, because people once again have gone back to all their sloppy fucking habits. More on this in a moment. So anyway, we only have said, there's never anybody in this place, we only have to wait about 10 minutes, but actually, unbelievably enough, two people came in during the course of the time where 10 minutes were in the waiting room, they're coming into a place where sick people go.

even if they're not sick in a viral fashion maybe they've herniated their hymen or broken a fucking you know, coxics bone or whatever but they come in with no mask on and they're sitting across from us with masks on sneezing and they're just playing with their fucking phones so anyway they take us back

and the first thing they say is I said well we both have the same thing they put her in one room and me and the other but I was referring to Stacy also. And we both have the same thing and I think I usually get this kind of thing and blah blah, blah. He said, well, no, she, the nurse first said, well,

we've had a lot of COVID positives today. So the doctor is telling us to do COVID checks on it. So again, two of these people had walked in a fucking waiting room into a medical facility where a bunch of fucking people with COVID had come and they're just barefaced and don't give a shit. More on this in a moment.

so they do the stick the thing up our nose right and then the doctor comes in about 10 minutes later well i say comes in in in the loosest description of the word he's wearing a fucking mask and he's standing in a doorway and he's shouting the instructions and he's saying well your wife's positive for covid yours hasn't come back yet and i'm thinking oh what the oh yes ding you got it too almost five years I avoided this fucking thing and we've tracked it down to where either it was Stacy's MRI on her back or me going to meet with my dear financial advisor

and he wasn't sick so we assume it may have been Stacy's medical visit but nevertheless they say oh yeah there's all kinds of of people now, it's blah, blah, blah, and you don't see anybody wearing a mask. But here, you see the doctor wearing a mask and standing in the doorway yelling instructions at me about the medicine they're going to give me from eight feet away while I'm wearing a mask.

I mean, people with leprosy get closer contact from medical professionals. He didn't want any part of this shit. And by the way, he's wearing a mask, and that's where the point I was going to make, before I get to the silver lining was it I still get on Twitter and whatever people are well why did you think when you made all those comments about wearing a mask and COVID now that it's been proven

that masks don't work now that it's there the now that it's been proven crowd no matter what bat shit thing that they don't want to believe is true that is actually happening they will find who's proven it where on Fox News they believe that shit nothing else in the world

but they believe that shit now that it's been proven at January 6 wasn't an insurrection in what universe they believe it now that it's been proven that masks don't work besides the fact that you can go

to the Mayo Clinic website or the CDC website, or go to any doctor telling him you've got a communicable disease and he's going to be staring at you from buying a fucking face mask. You idiots? Slobbering morons?

So apparently everybody around the country's been sick for the past six weeks or so according to all these reports are coming out and they're just going around slobbering all over everybody again because we didn't learn our fucking lesson and because irresponsible, criminal-minded fucking nut cases

get on the goddamn news and tell you the opposite of what common sense dictates that if you'd cover your fucking face up, you wouldn't spread your germs around. You fucking filthy, filthy people. But I mentioned a silver lining, didn't I, Brian? I will say this. I do think it should be mandatory

to wear a face mask in a medical... Like, when I go into a medical building and there's lots of doctors offices, like, there... That's the one place. Who wants to sit in the waiting room when people are coughing and sneezing and snotting all over themselves? I don't care if it's COVID or what. Do you want to go to the grocery and pick out the produce when people are snotting and coughing all over the cabbage? Also make it mandatory on the Long Island Railroad.

Some of those people are disgusting. Well, hey, I'll tell you what, that fucking train trip that the Midnight Express and I took that time from, was it Philadelphia to New Haven guy next to Stan Lane smelled like a goat Stan didn't eat right for three days Anyway back to your story back to the seriousness

Oh wow well then before I get to the cell Let me jot down the word silver lining This may take another second or two See I'm full of the piss and vinegar today folks So they give us medicine That will that will combat This fucking disease Now we've got them thinking

Oh God is this thing in for little Rico. And I told you the next day, I said, I've been sicker, but I've not been madder because of the timing. And they prescribed the medicine. Well, fine, and that's

a whole thing going back and forth until I finally got it ready. But guess what, Brian? And what is the name of the ship? Paxlovid, I believe, is what they gave us. And in all honesty, it did work. You could

tell her you could even taste it working but we have more on that in a second do we have to talk about wrestling today fuck that shit so we at the pharmacy we have insurance right

we have insurance we pay for it ourselves because I am self-employed because I'm the only boss I've everybody able to get along with but guess how much this stuff costs if you have insurance at least our insurance for a box of you take three tablets three in a morning and three in the evening for five days

so whatever that math is that's how many tablets is in this box guess how much it cost us with insurance I got copay what gave what the cost of the prescription after the insurance pays the deal or negotiates the deal that it does it's not a co-pay $80 you are incorrect I won't even milk it

$375 per box so $750 for the both of us along with $1.23 for the optional cough syrup but guess how much it would cost yes and you haven't paid $375 for a box since then trade ride to New Haven oh I'll tell you what I haven't paid $375 for a box

since I used it to get somebody over when they came out of it But guess how much it would cost if you don't have insurance? If I know, again, people around the world, the United States, we accept this kind of thing because the only people that want to change it, keep getting slapped down by the billionaires in the current ruling class, if you didn't have insurance, it said cash pay, it was like $1,300 per box. So we were the two of us would have paid almost $3,000 for this shit to save us from the scourge of COVID, which is probably a reason why a lot of people are walking around with scourge of COVID.

But what exactly, I mean, versus wading it out? I mean, did it make a remarkable improvement? Yes, because the very next day or later on that night and the next day, we both felt like complete shit. whereas Stacey was sweating nonstop and is sweating to the point where she'd get so wet in any kind of breeze, you know, the coldness, right? Oh, God, just sweating and shivering.

Whereas I'm the opposite, I've got a sweatshirt and a fucking fleece jacket on and two pair of sweatpants in the house with a blanket over me and the heat turned up. We had to go to opposite ends of the house because we could stand the climate. And I didn't eat, really, almost anything for two days could have cared

the fuck whether they made food or not and the snotting and the wheezing, a cough was not bad and then, but taking this stuff within 48 hours

or even a little bit less, you could start a telling improvement, then I spent two days eating everything I could find in a fucking house and felt normal and stay, stop sweating and you know, at a normal temperature. But the shit, makes your breath taste, or not your breath, but your mouth,

it tastes like you've been sucking pond water. I told you it ruined the taste of mouthwash. And that was, you know, so you could tell it was working. But anyway, you know, then the lingering symptoms have just been still snottiness and little spittiness and general don't give a fuckiness. over the course of the first three days, we're not that happy. But anyway, the silver lining, whereas I'd planned to do all that stuff, instead, I didn't

do any goddamn thing. And I would have liked to have felt better, but we had a wonderful time sitting on the goddamn couch and petting the dog and eating when we finally regained our appetite. and that is the first time that I have taken that much time to not do anything in over 10 years so my brain is wrung out and now I'm not real fucking happy

about commencing this all over here we got to do this for another year it's what you're saying at the top of the program with this brand new year thing at least another year I mean we have commitments going to 2029,

2013 Wait a minute I don't know if I have commitments going to 2031 you didn't tell me anything with a three in front of it We'll talk about it

We'll talk about it off there These other fucking suckers Will pay us for Nevertheless Nevertheless Well I'm thinking about I'm trying to constrict My retirement age down

While I still can Before the inevitable financial collapse The United States With the new criminal regime regime and all this other stuff begins to hit. I'm going to enjoy some peace and quiet. And I got the energy

about three days ago to actually do something and tried to move some things around and tweaked my back and now I'm sitting sideways. But that gave me another excuse, just sit back down on the couch and say, fuck it, and pet the dog and Stacey and I watched more television. And since we got to talk about wrestling today, then the experience next week is where I'm going to talk about all the other

non-wrestling things that has struck my mind. It'll probably be more interesting than this fucking fever dream Tony Kahn's in. And we'll talk about some emails and some Christmas presents and acknowledgments and everything on the experience. So there's another cliffhanger for you. Wait for that for either three days or maybe six months. I may take another vacation. What do you want to do here today?

Well, I mean, a lot has happened over the last, what's it been? It's been a while. Back in the before time. There's been a pay-per-view, there's been TV shows, people have said stupid things, lots of other stupid things. So, I mean, there's lots going on, I guess chronologically, we should start with the AEW pay-per-view World's End, which took place last year. And you know what, it may have been better for him if it had. What, if the world had ended? Yes.

Come on. Well, then we would have been saved the TV show they did on the first day of the new year. I think they should have pulled a Costanza. They should have tried to do something to go out on a high point and then pray that the world ended before they had to do anything else again. But they didn't. Well, they were in Orlando, Florida, I believe. Yeah, yeah. That's typically where people think of the end of the world begins.

Orlando, Florida. If it's not the end of the world, you can see it from there. I'm trying to, yes, I have my notes here now. Orlando in a, quote, jam-packed arena. That's what the commentator, not the fancy twice-baked tater, but the commentator said, old sock face, they were in a jam-packed arena. As long as the camera could see the seat, it was packed.

Someone wrote to us, they said, did he have a stroke? because he's having trouble just completing sentences or thoughts he starts trying to say something and he like loses his train of thought you know what he's got now is he's got what are they what do they call we're talking about Excalibur folks the guy with the fucking nylon panties on his head the guy who would be the worst commentator in wrestling if he wasn't sitting next to Tony Chivani well but now depending on how you define commentator you still got officer bar Brady to deal with back

he's back on a show in force but nevertheless what do they call the thing when gymnasts start second guessing themselves and their heads can't process or control where they are in the air you know what I'm and they start making

the steps no they can't process where they are on the ground either I think old sock face has that now I think he's just he's realized that he's said all of his shit that he can say about the

tornado tornillos and the whatever the fuck fancy moves names and he's doing the same shit over and over again and he's trying to figure out some way to be a real

announcer Pinocchio and it ain't it ain't coming across and he's got the Jimmy the Jimmy's or whatever the Jimmy legs but anyway back to this pay-per-view

in the jam-packed arena. God, if I... I know this is going to happen in the next week, but if I see another tournament ever on this television or any of their associated programming, it will be too soon. It never... What the...

Can I just... Before we start talking about, the first match was Osprey and Feltcher. In the tournament, can I set the tournament up? we would be remiss in our standards as professional broadcasters if we didn't for our audience who didn't pay attention to this tomfoolery recap how these semifinal and final matches came together on his pay-per-view

so just so the people know right right you're with me i don't think i thought it was an implied right well i had to breathe because i'm a covid survivor god damn it i thought it was an implied breath i'm going to start a fucking go fund me So I don't want to, I don't want to take it upon myself as a mere novice in these Blue League and Gold League, B block and A block and the H&R block tournaments. I'm a novice. I want to go to a professional to explain to us, Brian last, how these semifinal and final tournament matches came to be on this, on his pay-per-view.

I'm going to Uncle Dave. Oh, okay. This was written in the Wrestling Observer. Guy sent me this copy, but I don't know what, I guess it was the observer that covered the dynamite and rampage tapings in New York's Hammerstein Ballroom. Because the way that Uncle Dave describes it as the show that they taped to that night was built around setting up the Continental Classic semifinals. The booking came together strongly on the last.

show as every match had meaning. Are you ready to hear the meaning in the gold league, Brian? Please. Well, when Will Osprey lost a ricochet, it seemed impossible for him to make it because he had to beat Brody King to finish with nine points, and everyone figured Claudio Castignoli would beat Commander and be at 12. If Ricochet beat Darby Allen, he'd be at 12, and they would be the two to go. if Alan beat ricochet, he ricochet at Osprey would tie at nine and Alan would have beaten Ricochet and Ospre so he'd go with Castignoli. King would have nine with a win

and would have a tiebreaker over Allen but not over Castignoli or Ricochet. But Castignoli lost and ricochet drew Allen. That put Ricochet in and Castignoli and Osprey tied for second but Osprey won their match to advance. Got it? I have no idea. No, I do not have it. Well, then you gotta learn, baby.

Learn, baby, learn. Meltzer Inferno. Learn, baby, learn, Fernsherna, mother, day. So now the Blue League, don't be back there, cackling, sharing with the whole class. The Blue League now, this is an interesting case. This is clear cut right here,

straight down the middle. The Blue League saw everyone but Beast Mortos still alive going into the last day. Services for him apparently will be taking place this weekend. Okada had seven points and Benjamin had six going into their match. The winner would likely go to the final four. Kyle Fletcher had nine points, Daniel Garcia had seven, and Mark Briscoe was in the clubhouse with nine. In Okada versus Benjamin Draw would put Briscoe in the playoffs,

Benjamin would die briscoe. I think that means tie. I don't think they're suggesting any kind of homicide. Benjamin would tie briscoe with a win but beat him head to head, so he'd likely be in. Okada beating Benjamin put him at 10. Had Garcia beat Fletcher, Okada and Garcia would be tied and they had a draw. It was said since they both made it, there would be a coin flip of who faces Osprey and who faces ricochet. If Fletcher won, that gave him.

12 and Okada 10. A draw was all Fletcher needed because he'd have 10 as would Okada and he'd finish first based on the head-to-head win. It's as plain as the nose on your fucking face. The booking all came together.

That's where you started. So that's what they're trying to sell the people in fucking Cleveland. You brought up before the idea you don't want to see another tournament. The Owen Hart usually starts what in the spring? Oh, God. Right? I mean, that's the annual spring thing. And then this is it and then I think there's other ones

randomly throughout the year. This is clearly something Tony Khan loves. I'm sure he spends lots of times and lots of pads figuring out the outcomes and the points. Dave loves it too. I don't think it connects to the regular fan. I don't think it connects to the regular human brain.

But anyway, so we had Osprey and Felcher that have taken the path that we have just described to you ladies gentlemen. And, you know, all of the top AEW talent, Will here and old Kyle here, they're all MDs. You know that, Brian. They got their degrees. They're MDs. Move-doers.

And again, for the kind of people who like that kind of thing, that's the kind of thing those people like, but they can't contain themselves. Because for the only audience that these guys care about getting over to, this is what they want, but they're...

A billionaire is spending money on these people to do more than lose ratings and lose interest because it's all the same goddamn shit. They think they're in a video game and they're going to base that on everything they do. And they're trying to make, Kyle, as we said, 18 months in an OVW or a small regional territory of something like that existed.

I'm not talking about today's OVW. I'm talking about in the day. You know, you could develop him or NXT possibly. But no, he ain't going to get, he's bald, he looks years older because he did look 14, but he also looks miles more boring. It just, it ain't all together yet. They're doing it out. They're doing the rehearsal.

in front of the fucking audience on opening night. And they started 100 miles an hour with a choreographed routine. And they have no reactions to what is happening because they're facially so intent on nailing the next flip and ducking the next fucking swing your partner docy dough. And it's either by the numbers memorized swing dance or everything that they do individually looks fake, so they do a bunch more of them thinking that that will make it better.

They'd go on the floor forever and the referee gocks. The camera stayed off of Osprey for so long so he could get his color that I thought they'd forgotten he was there. And then Fletcher now is a blood liquor. Did you see the bloodlicker? the king Brian off of his boots and everything. Yeah, I saw it. I hate whenever they do anything like that, drinking blood or licking blood or

licking their hands covered in blood. I'm not bad of that. Again, you know, if it was Abdullah the butcher that came to your town once a fucking year doing it. Oh, my God, but it's like they... But at least he wasn't drinking it out of a water fountain like old who's-y-whuts-he-was, a swerve. But anyway...

but this is what they do. Osprey will, they'll get some heat on him and then he'll make a big comeback with his flips and then Kyle will suplex him on his head so Osprey will just stand up and grab Kyle and do a backflip with him. And then they'll both lay there. Okay, go up and hit somebody at a head with a baseball bat

and knock them down and let them pop right back up and then give you a uranagi and then they'll realize that they're, brains are melting down the back of their shoulder blade. They traded chops while daring the other guy to give them chops, and then they flipped back and forth some more. I wrote down while they're not selling, but then they both sell the guy that got hit and the guy that hit the guy that got hit.

And I guess that's to prove that they do sell, whether it makes any sense or not. and then they did a headbutt exchange where they both got on their knees and they traded head butts over and over not working head butts not using their hand but just headbutting each other but it was both fake and real they were hard enough to hurt but obviously being pulled to try not to hurt too bad So was that worth the fucking potential hematoma, Brian, when you're trying to do something that you think will convince people that it's somehow real when you can still tell it's not, but you're really hurting yourself? Help me.

No, I don't think it's a good idea. And I think it's something that even hardcore wrestling fan, AW fans probably are uncomfortable with. Again, Shabata had to have his brain removed, according to the wrestling observer, after the headbutt spot. Yeah. It was that spot. And it doesn't even make me uncomfortable because I don't care about either of these guys or whether they do brain damage themselves,

but it makes me uncomfortable as a professional to see people do a stupid, phony shit that also hurts. So there's that. And then Osprey kicked out of a brain buster and a power bomb and a lot of leg slaps. It immediately jumped up and grabbed the fucking guy that had just done all those things. old Kyle Feltcher and fucking picked him up

and gave him a styles clash one, two, three. I've never said, he brainbustered Osprey and he power bombed him, and he kicked and slapped that leg a couple of times and Osprey just like, oh, fuck it. Stiles clash, one, two, three. That is something you see a lot in modern wrestling, the idea, I mean, the selling is an issue everywhere,

but someone gets killed with a bunch of stuff and all of a sudden they have a burst of energy and they jump up and do something ridiculous. In this case, it was the finish. With someone else's finish. The styles clash. Well, yeah, and again, I know that, you know...

Why not the Tiger Driver? He was so afraid to use it and then he used it. Why not use it against the guy you were afraid that he knows where your kids go to school and everything? Well, that's well, maybe he's still afraid because he knows where his kids go to... I don't know, but I know that Pockets, the mascot, does the stunner,

and, you know, and that just reminds people of Austin, but, you know, he's, and now Owens, and Austin and Owens have the connection where he doesn't mind it, he used his, or whatever, so, whatever. So, but he's a joke. But if this guy's going to be fucking a legitimate type guy, why is he using another guy's fucking finish? Again, the joke, the mascot does Roman Rains is too.

He does everybody, it's the fucking rib. But not a serious guy. Anyway, and not in a non-serious. serious way. So you didn't like that much all? You didn't like it at all. Well, how can't they're, again, I've said they're both great athletes and they can do

wonderful shit that if it was produced, if they had been taught by anybody that knew what fuck they were doing before they figured that they fucking knew everything that they needed to know, if that makes sense to you, then yes, both you and Osprey. He's amazing. he can sell and make the comeback with the blah blah

I sound like Paterson now but not when the it's just a video game nonsense match over and over and it looks like everybody else is just executed better but nothing is over because the individual moves aren't over the fucking

it's no you just you cannot prostitute the idea of doing any of these things picking a guy up and dropping him right on his fucking head for a two count. And then the guy pops up a second later and does something.

You cannot prostitute the entire business just to let these guys live out their fantasies of being Olympic-level gymnasts and of some kind of action video game. They could both be taught and produced and developed to be good wrestlers, but in left of their own devices, they do this mark fucking bullshit. And there you have it. Well, let me ask it this way, too. The fans there really seemed into this more than anything else on the show. And they had an opening match, and we know how things worked there.

These guys did everything they wanted to do. There wasn't an agent saying, hey, hold back a little bit. They went a while. They did everything they wanted to do. The fans were into it. The fans didn't react to shit the rest of the night. Exactly, because you don't put the goddamn second coming of Jesus Christ on first and then end up the show

to fucking, oh, what do you want to have for the last supper? I mean, like, Brett versus Owen opened the show and was an amazing match, but they didn't do everything. You know,

they didn't kick out of everything. No, and then it also was wrestle fucking mania. And there was still some, some things to do. Should WWE have their eyes on when Kyle Fletcher's contract comes up based on his size,

his age, and, you know, what he could do? Well, the only thing is, yes, to all of those things, but I don't know what, kind, is he one of these knuckleheads like ricochet that obviously just wants to play in traffic? Or is he a guy that's coachable and teachable and can adapt to working with the professionals? That's the only thing I don't know because I never met the guy.

I haven't heard anything about it. I'm sure he's a wonderful fellow. But does he understand that he's on an indie level kind of path now and he would need to have the input of real professionals. But, no, they both can do all kinds of shit. That's not the problem. The problem is they do all this shit. And the people like it, yes,

because it's crazy in the building in front of them, and then what's going to follow it, number one, so they've shit on everybody else on a card. And number two, what can you... Again, they're pouring bleach down people's throats, and they're throwing them off balconies through furniture, and there's a flame thrower on a fucking guy, right? And nobody still cares.

Nobody believes any of it, even when the guy's really on fucking fire. It's just bullshit to these fans. Yay! But that's why they're tuning out, because how many more motherfuckers can you set on fire? They've seen it. You need Agent Orange now where the skin will melt off. That's why things don't get over

because none of these personalities are over or their reasons for interacting a la setth Rollins and CM Punk or any story that the WWE has going today practically where people care about people involved and why they're treating each other that way so they don't have to fucking amputate limbs they've got the pile driver over again

these stupid motherfuggers are kicking out a leap leap leaping tombstone pile drivers on fucking stares because they're idiots and their marks for themselves and the billionaire that's paying them more money than most of them are worth is a mark for that shit too and that's why that he's spending all his fucking money to fucking do this instead of create any type of serious fucking competition well i don't know if you know this but part of the issue like i said before the wrestlers decide what they're going to do in the ring there's no agent overruling anyone.

Tony's not going to do it. And part of the reason for all this is Tony's in the back, listening to his favorite songs from the 80s, trying to find songs that will fit in different places in the AEW universe with his Raycon earbuds. Well, you know, that's a thing that I almost forgot about. It's been so long since we did one of these fun, but it's been a year, Brian.

I almost forgot that we could mention. some of our friends on the program as well and this type of thing and our friends at Racon are friends of ours and therefore they're friends of yours. They're forever friends. And, you know, that's why.

Now that I think about it, Tony's back there, he's watching the monitor, he sees what's going on, but he doesn't realize that it doesn't make sense because he's listening to, let's say, the Pointer Sisters on his Racon everyday wireless earbuds. But folks, you don't have to just listen

to tired 80s music, No, you can go for the classics, the Zeppelin, the Stones, or you can go for the modern day stuff with the ditties and the daddies. I don't know who these modern people are. Let's not go for them. Let's also not put down the point of sisters as being tired 80s things. What the hell is that? As far as for a wrestling application, it certainly is.

But we'll get to that when we talk about dynamite. But folks, you can even listen to us on your Raycon everyday earbuds. They're the perfect gym, buddy. Let's say you're in, I'm not talking about me, Jim. You got a new buddy I hear. Well, it's one of those bouncy buddies. But no, it's the gym, G-Y-M, where the gymnasium, where you go to work out, you're going to listen to something while you're sweating, sweating to the oldies,

sweating to the newbies, sweating makes the world go round. Or let's say you want to tune out a coworker. Just put these things here. They're so small and they're wireless. Most nearsighted people won't even notice them. you can just nod and smile and you can listen to whatever you want to listen to. Or let's say you want to talk on the phone.

Well, you can talk into your phone, but you can hear them on your recons, can't you? And if you're on a three-way call, well, you can hear one son of a gun on the left or one son of a gun on the right, and you can just drop out of the middle of the conversation and let them fight it out. Because they've got active multi-point connectivity

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boom, a recording comes up to say, you've been canceled for your noise, motherfucker. That does not happen. Again, these are features that are actually part of Raycon, but these are not applications or ways to use it that Jim has no idea. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Well, what you mean to say when you cancel somebody's noise, you don't even have the courtesy to tell them about it? I don't know, again, it's noise canceling, but I don't know if that's exactly how it's applied. So it's a feature. Well, it's certainly a feature they have, the fine Raycon earbuds. Yes, well, you want to talk about features. They started just half the price. of the other premium audio brands,

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And speaking of friends, nobody loves friends more than Tony Con. and it was a gathering of the friends at AEW's, I can't speak, AEW's World's End. Well, another tournament match followed the first tournament match, and I don't know if it followed it, but it came afterwards. Let's put it that way. See, folks, I should have been, I would have been a killer on the borsh belt. In the 50s, doing all the clubs and the Poconos.

The Rickoshy. The cat skills. Well, I want to work it out. on the road first and then go to the cat skills. Another tournament match, Rick O'CHAE and our friend, Okada, because I can't even have any fun with this

fucking broken down shell of a man by giving him a nickname anymore. Please can't somebody put him in a chair and wheel him the fuck out? Jesus, so Rickashay was a big baby face. He came in with great fanfare and

from what we were led to believe, as millions of dollars of commitment on Tony Kahn's part from the the W.W.E. to debut and oh, they loved him. And has he been there three months? And he managed to somehow go from being a fucking raving baby face that everybody was saying was the savior of the company to, oh, we don't really like this guy. Boy, this guy's turned out to be a fucking nerd. Well, did you see? There was footage at the Hammerstein. I think that was one of the shows that aired during our break.

I think it was him against Osprey, and the fans had said his streamers were throwing toilet paper at them. Well, yes, and then they actually did something on one of the TV tapings that they did. Or no, on this paper view here. What am I thinking about? It's on this coming up. See, my mind. I'm a COVID survivor, God damn it.

That started in Ring of Honor back in the late 2000s in Manhattan Center in the Hammerstein Ballroom, where they were for the big title matches, they would throw streamers, right? like they did in Japan. And it was a cool visual in that building and everybody, you've seen it, throw the streamers and blah, blah, blah. They were doing it before then, though, for the record. Who was doing it before them?

Ring them on or they were doing it before them. Manhattan Center in 2009 or anything. Okay, but what I'm saying to you is in that particular building. I'm not saying they invented the concept in the whole fucking universe. I'm saying in that building, they were throwing the streamers and then, and I can't remember who it

was, what heal it was, so I'd be happy to be, you know, informed. But to be wise asses, the New York fans, instead of throwing streamers at them, they threw toilet paper. Like you are the shit. So that's what the people were doing there was they remembered from doing that years ago. That is not a thing that just happened. A lot of people may have seen it for the first time from their reaction. but then

that's what I'm saying is bad enough when the fans do it but the fans then they actually make it part of the show where it's

they can't help but being cheesy can they is what I'm saying to you so you're against the idea of embracing it well I think it's great when the fans do it but when you've got the guys

out there copying the face you've got a top baby face copying something the fans just did what organically is the kids say, I think that looks cheesy, is what I'm saying to you. If he'd have thought of it, or if he'd have thunk of it first is what I'm saying, but when the fans have already done it,

and now, oh, here comes, swerves, dealing other people's material. I don't know. But that's the point I make it also. Rickashay went from second coming to, can you please be going. Now the people hate him, he's a douchebag.

His real personality is apparently, is showing through on Twitter. So now they've just not only made him a heel, but a nerd or a geek type that gets pushed around and or made fun of and or whatever. Has there ever been somebody that was... Well, probably in this company,

yeah, you can quote me three or four that started out so popular and got so fucking unpopular, so quick, but maybe Mercedes or even then. They still haven't thrown toilet paper at her. Yeah, I think she almost has a slight recovery just because at least they like her matches. But with Rickashay, it's, you know,

it's not that long ago where WWE at the end of his contract was giving him a push and he was involved in that program with Bronn Breaker on Raw. And it was the best stuff he ever did in WW. And it was kind of, I guess, potentially a sample of how they would treat him going forward.

And then he went to AEW, came in with a bunch of fanfare, got the big reaction to first night in, and now the fans are sick of him. And the fans are throwing, and toilet paper at him, one of the baby faces is wiping his ass with it

and throwing it on top of him. So anyway, we got to get there first, folks, because Okada, seriously, help me. He looks like, facially like he ought to be working in the accounting department

and moves like he should be in a body cast. And he actually jumped up and tried to do a few things over the course of this night, but the announcers have to put him over like he's this, world beating incredible fucking athlete and wrestler

and what people are seeing doesn't fit and they're wondering why that people don't give a shit besides people who already knew who the fuck he was and nobody else because if you've just seen this it's you're what the fuck and again

ricochet and Okada now who's the heel here Okada was in the top of heel group, the lollipop guild with the buckaroos until they the last we saw of them on camera was they ran in fear

out of the building and that was it so now this guy can't talk he can't work he looks like shit he's got no angle going but he beats every fucking body the crowd was cheering him here

because ricochet is a bigger dick But it was a glacial pace compared to the first match because there's no way that Okada could do anything like any, Rickisholet, Osprey, or Fletcher. But Rikosha tried to make up for it by going twice as fast. But, I mean, did you say, Okada told the crowd to be quiet,

and they didn't have a problem following that instruction. And then he ran crisscross around the ring, hitting the ropes four times while Ricketts, was just sitting there on his ass dumbfounded, and then he ran up behind him and slapped him in the head. This guy is supposed to be the greatest tournament wrestler in the world, and he's doing boogie-woogie Jimmy Valiant spots from 1993. They kept saying that.

I mean, by the end of the night, especially on Dynamite, the greatest tournament wrestler ever. And who gives a shit? And it... And the fans have seen him in exactly one tournament. Where's Eddie Kingston? Didn't Eddie Kingston win this last year? Well, yeah, but he hurt himself.

Did he do inside? Did he? Or was that the time before that? Point is he's been gone a long time. I forgot he was the Continental Champion. Well, that's the thing is Okada and then the last couple minutes he'll turn it up a little bit, but he works like he's doing the walkthrough at 3.30 in the afternoon. and Ricochet is embracing being a heel to people,

but now they've got a midget heel whose only appeal is doing flashy baby face shit for millions of dollars. And a lot of this was brutal, and then O'Cotta says, oh, keep chopping me. Now let's do the fake forearms. Ricochet flipped some more, but he's a heel, so who gives a shit? Okada did the clumsy elbow off the top, gave the camera the finger. They flipped back and forth for a minute.

Okada hit a drop kick, and Rikishay immediately reacted to that by picking Okada up and dropping him on his head and getting a two count. And then Rickashay hit a shooting star press off the top rope and got a two. count. And then more kicks by, I'm reading my notes now, more kicks by both and suddenly Okada jumped up and hit that shitty Rainmaker clothesline and beat him

one, two, three. So, again, leaping, flaming pile drivers can't stop you, but that one little short-arm clothes line is deadly. The fuck. And then,

do you want to get to the after birth or any comments on his match? No, I mean, it was fine, I guess, for what it was. You kind of hit on the big thing. Okada Coast, and then he turns it up for the last few minutes, especially in the later match, but he did it here too. And I guess booking-wise, you had the tease of a potential

Rikoshae-Ospere rematch, but instead you got Okada Osprey. Well, you might have had a rematch, or you might have a deal where they both go in together and one with six points and the other with three points, and then they have a draw, which is like kissing your sister, with your finger up her ass.

Is that what that's like? See, that would be the setup to the next tournament. So then Okada left and Swerve came out and stood in the entranceway and Riggshay told him, I'm going to win this or, no, he ricocheted and he told Rickashay that he said he was going to win the tournament but Swerve said if Rikersh blew it, he was going to embarrass him.

And so now we're, going to clean up your mess and Nana came out with a fucking little red wagon full of toilet paper and gave it to the fans and they threw it at ricochet but they had just previously done that at the Hammerstein in New York on their own which is why I say it was at the they're just now they're just trying but anyway So that Now we've Swerve has been reduced to coming out

and given the fans' toilet paper. This supposed most dangerous manning. It wasn't even a novel way to embarrass him. The fans had just done it. That's my point. All right. Moving on. Correct. Or do you have any comments about the tidy bowl?

Moving on. So then we get the Tijuana Street fight for the women's title between Maria May and Thunder Rosa. Brian, you're aware of what the rules are of a Tijuana Street Fight women's division, aren't you? Not specifically that stipulation. I know street fights. I have seen wrestlers from Tijuana. I don't remember if I've seen this match specifically before. Well, it's no disqualification, weapons legal, falls count anywhere in the building. shitty booking.

My New Year's resolution number one was not to watch girls' garbage matches. They cannot help themselves. They think this shit is good, and for again for the dwindling audience that they still maintain, it might be, but after they've had the first match

where they did everything physical, it could possibly be done in a wrestling ring, then they follow it with a match it was not really as interesting. Then they have two girls come out and use chairs and trash cans and fight on the stage and spit tequila on each other and break open a pinata full of thumb tacks and roll around in the thumb tacks and use a logging chain.

And finally the finish of this girls match is Maria May Pyle Drives Thunder Roaster off the apron through a table to the floor. One, two, three. And Tony Chavati and I quote said, Thunder Rosa will have to be helped out after that. You think? My God, she was just run down by a buddy bread truck.

Well, somebody help her up and dust her off. She's going to need a hand to get back up on the curb. It's a fucking... Do you have any other observations about the girls Tijuana Street Fight contest? No, no disrespect to either of the girls or women wrestlers, but... Oh, I meant as much disrespect as possible, but you can do what you like. But this was my break match.

This was, I'm going to go outside and, you know, do a couple things and then come back in. Well, for a lot of people, this was their breaking point. But then they continued with the... dynamite diamond ring showdown between MJF and Adam Cole. MJF comes out, and this was a pay-per-view AEW crowd, so a crowd of their most faithful, and a response was a fraction of what it used to be because they have cut the throat of their biggest future star

with the way that he's been presented and been backed into a corridor and forced to have been presented. And then Adam Cole comes out and except for the audience participation where they get to go boom and bay bay, I've seen people walking up to a bus stop attract more attention. It's just, they didn't want to see this, did they? Did the people want to see this, mad?

with any outcome. The people wanted this feud to end with no ending several months back almost a year ago when MJF first returned. They didn't want them to keep doing this and now here it is the end of the year. It looks at they finally end it. The other problem is people didn't want to see it.

The people that did see it seem to take more to MJF than Adam Cole. And I think a lot of that is specifically because of the visual. Well, and it's still because that MJF had more goodwill because he was consistently good for so long until he started monkeying with him that it takes a while to lose that luster,

although the process has begun. But with Adam Cole, they paired him with guys that they presented as jobbers and idiots and he looks, not only visually, but looks like in the course of the story to be a complete imbecile

because of the way this whole thing's been fucked up. And they just don't care. And then, You know, when MJF threw Adam into the steps to where Adam could get his color, he gets in the ring and tells the crowd to shut the fuck up because the only one's making any noise were the ones cheering for him. And MJ, again, he's trying to make the fans care. And, you know, his matches put together always usually makes sense,

but it, you know, no, at one point Adam made a comeback. and there was kind of silence, indifference. And they kept trying, you know, where Adam would hurt his ankle and MJF would clip it so they could extend this dramatic presentation that people didn't want to see the beginning of to begin with. And then Adam Cole pulled MJF into the fucking post and he got juice.

And now they got a double juice match going on where nobody gives a shit. And anyway, finally it just went on and on. MJF rolled out and slapped the stairs behind the referees back and took a bump and blamed Taven and Bennett so the referee could kick them out of ringside. Because they were guarding the diamond ring.

What sense does it make to have two guys in the match his two friends guarding the fucking ring that is possessed by MJF? Yes, it's on the line, but you say, well, anyway, the referee kicked him out. MGF immediately goes and gets the ring and comes in and runs into a super kick. And Adam Cole gets the ring. And he swings, but MGF kicks him into balls and hits him with the draping pile driver, one, two, three.

So, the baby face looks even worse when he takes the goddamn gimmick away from a fucking heel, and a heel still beats him, doesn't he? I mean, the booking's never good and never makes sense. At least MJF won, but the way everything happened and then the postmatch. But if I was Adam Cole, I'd say, just knock me out with the fucking ring, Jesus Christ. Don't give me a goddamn gun, and then I can't fucking shoot straight. If I was Adam Cole, I'd say, give me a protein shake. Give me an inflatable skin diver.

his outfit. And just cover him somehow. So MJF gets a chair and puts it on Adam's ankle. He's going to break the ankle, go for the stomp, and music plays and here comes Roderick Strong.

And he hits the ring and MJF bails out and runs to the entranceway. But then Kyle O'Reilly comes out and grabs MJF and throws him back in the ring. And O'Reilly and Roderick strong beat MJF up and hug Adam Cole and then hold the heel so that Adam Cole can punch him

and then Taven and Bennett come back in and the five baby faces celebrate because they all together were able to beat up the one heel who won the match who won the match hopefully that's the end of all that and hopefully that's the end of all that with the feud I have to be very honest with you. We'll talk about dynamite a little bit later. I'm over everything with the undisputed anything. I don't want to see these guys anymore. You're disputing it is what you're saying?

I am. I'm saying there's a dispute and I don't want to see any more of this kingdom or this era or whatever the fuck it is. Or this time period. Just use our time machine. Get us out of this. So we don't have to talk about the rest of the pay-per-view?

No, we have to, no. I didn't know what exactly. were getting out of, but we're back into that. Well, now we're back into this. For the international title, another one, we had our friend take a shit defending against Powerhouse Hobbs. Can I say one thing and then I won't say anything else

about this match? This is the most disappointing match to me as a fan on the show. I was hoping for more out of this. Well, you silly boy, how dare you have hope? how dare you have it because AEW will strip the hope away from you and it will give you cope instead of hope oh god so what what is Hobbs done to deserve this

and what is that he's gone forever because he's hurt he comes back in a muddled situation where his manager had totally forgotten about him because he was so unimportant so he becomes a baby face just by showing up on the other side and wasn't on, wasn't his partner? Wasn't it ricochet?

Am I misremembering that? What, who was whose partner? Remember when Hobbs showed up here a couple months ago again and they had, and Callis and forgotten to re-sign him? Who was his partner in that match that brought him back as a baby face? I have to double check. It may have been ricochet. I think it was ricochet.

So then you don't see him, Hobbs I'm talking about. And then now he's going to do a job for this, again, for this bogus title, there's no thought to getting him over first before he does any of these things. He returned in November as Rikoschay's surprise partner against the Don Callas family. Boom. Well, now he came out to get his ass kick. by is Take a shit still a member of the Don Callis family? He is, charter member.

Well, there you go. So at the bell, they stood and traded 13 fake forearms and three shoulder tackles before Take a shit took a bump. So way to get Hobbs over. I know, yes, our friend Take is a wonderful young athlete also, and we've said good things about him. But he shouldn't be standing toe to toe with Powerhouse Hobbs. This match shouldn't even be happening right now.

especially the same kind of matches everybody else has they did the fake forearms then they rolled it out and fought on the floor while Aubrey Ed stood and stared at him and then take got heat on Hobbs's bad knee and again

they put him in the position remember when I was talking about how Braun Breaker was trying to sell a body part the other day was it his arm or whatever his ankle whatever it was, but he was trying to sell like Ricky Morton and it don't work. You can't have a beast. He has to sell the concept of the pounding and the blows or a big concussive effect and you get a whatever.

They got Hobbs trying to learn to work. I'm sure somebody has pitched him. Oh, you learn to work by selling. Well, not like this. He's trying to sell like Ricky Morton on a bad knee. But look at him. him. He's a powerhouse. So this could have been put together

better, but I don't know who's putting anything together. Take a shit can't lead, and Hobbs has been booked into an unwinnable situation where he never gets a chance to be dominant over any fucking body. And then Hobbs had to make one-legged comeback, so a lot of

that shit looked like shit. Then have him sell his arm. Don't have him sell his leg. At least, you know, eh. The fans were ready for Hobbs to win it. And then Hobbs went to the top

to do something allegedly, but take a shit caught him and they had an awkward struggle to pull off a superplex and they lost their balance and both of them fell off and crumbled to the apron and they went right back to it.

Like idiots, where they'd established here's what we're going to do oh but shit we don't have the balance to do it we fell off now we'll climb back up and my opponent will be extra careful in helping me give him a superplex this time

what should they have done do anything else but they both fell off on either side of the goddamn ropes get on the floor bang bang roll back in shoot duck fucking spine buster whatever the fuck who was going to take a shit was going to give him the superplex,

then let Take a shit duck something and hit him with a goddamn flying Japanese dingbat. But don't go back to the same thing you just fucked up, obviously, and then be more... So it, like, Hobbs then just climbed right up. Here's Superplex me, friend, because he didn't want to fuck it up again.

And then Take a shit came off the top with a centon and then ran into a spine buster and got a... So, take a shit superplexed him, then came off the top with a centon on him, and then hit the roves and ran toward him, and Hobbs got up and gave him a spine buster and got a two-count.

And then they both climbed up to the top again, not smoothly, and Hobbs power slammed him off the top and sold his knee. So, again yes it's a great idea Hobbs is so strong

I bet I can power slam you off the top rope it's not executing the move it's the phoniness of getting there that fucking doesn't come into their mind and then take a shit hit him with a kick an elbow

a knee a front face lock and a suplex and beat him one two three after he's slammed off the ass spine bustard and power slam off the top rope, well, I'll just kick him and elbow him and knee him and front face, like him, and suplex him, and just beat him one, two, three. I'll just do that.

And after all that other shit, he just beats him flat in a horrible finish. Thanks for coming Hobbs. And it's almost like Wardrow. I mean, it's not an exact thing, but it's like they do something bad and they think they're going to repair it. You know, we'll talk about Dynamo. When we talk about it, they give Powerhouse Hobbs a big handicap win. But this match.

Oh, boy. And one of the other people apparently was really handicapped. Stop it. Stop. He was a smaller man. He was a smaller man, that's for sure. No, no, he was a wise ass. He was a smart ass.

We'll get to him. But I would have fucking, if it had been on OVW television, it's been a wrestling school, I would have gone around the announced desk, hit the ring, and pulled the guy out myself. He was so unprofessional. My point is this match didn't do anything to help Hobbs. And I think, like I said, it was disappointing.

We finally get Hobbs versus Takeshastna, and it just wasn't happening. And it didn't happen, but it happened. And then the women's title was on the line with Mercedes-Mune versus Chris Stantlander. I will say this. At the top of it, I said, I feel sorry for Stantlander. We like her, we see something there, but oh, hell no. and I was rewarded in my first thought because this from,

from bell to bell was close to 25 minutes, wasn't it? Yeah, they typically give her at least 20 minutes for her big matches. Well, finally, the heel beat the baby face clean in the middle of the ring with a fancy baby face roll up. And I wrote, God, I hate these people. They wonder why the fans don't care about anybody, because the baby faces all get beat. Isn't it just,

it was like the old Billy Jack line, not Billy Jack Haynes, but Billy Jack movie. He tells him what he, I'm going to take my right foot and kick you on the left side of your face. And then he does it. It's all the heels say,

I'm going to beat you in such and such a way, and then they do. Go ahead, I'm sorry. No, I don't even know what I was going to say. Where's Camille? Well, she escaped. Have we ever gotten an explanation exactly what went down? No, no, there has never been any...

I haven't asked anyone, now I may have to because I'm... Well, there's not been any public acknowledgement of what, how... I want to know from somebody, how did they bring her in there? What I did, did they pitch her? How did it suddenly turn into whatever it turned into? And did she finally just say, you know what, let me the fuck out of here? and then because she's gone without any comment whatsoever. Yeah, they stopped saying her name.

And when they had that recap video 2025 for Mercedes, there was not a clip of her. So I'm sure there's an NDA involved on one side or another, but maybe she had some kind of leverage. She only signed a sort, short term. She only shined. She only shined a sort term contract. track. I mean, it's always an option if she...

That's a spoonerism. One of the fans reminded me as what that's called. Why would Tony do that? Why would Tony take someone like down and let her shine a suicide contract? If he knows that NXT would want someone like that. I don't think there's any short-term contracts. Well, remember what maybe

both sides wanted her? Maybe she said, well, I'll, I'll, I like what you're saying to me, but I need to experience it firsthand. I don't know. But a point in she was in there, she was bungled badly, made to look like a complete idiot on television, but she was allowed to get the fuck out, and they're just acting like she wasn't there. Here's another one with Statlander out there.

Whatever happened to Stokely? I forgot about him. Right? He just disappeared. He was just on TV nonstop, and then he was off TV. Well, he's probably like Don Fallas. He forgot about her. You know, a lot of these managers, they got so many people, they forget about some of them.

he just forgot to stop, keep going to the, to the ring with her, whatever. Well, while that was a short review, I do have to ask you something about it. Mercedes Monet, the outfits, yes, the wigs. Yes. The jewelry, all the things happening. Is AEW paying for this? And if so, would she be allowed to resell it? Can she just start her own, you know, Mercedes, not Salvation Army,

but something where she could just sell things that were given to her. Gently used merchandise, gently used ring-worn item. I bet she could sell some items she's worn to some segment of the population, but it all revolves around the dollar sign. Branch got the dollar sign on the outfit, got the dollar sign on the wig. She's Mercedes-Mone, eh? A CEO.

And she's all about making the money because she's a CEO of the... M-O-U-S-E club. And, you know, you remember back in the dark days, Brian, before we established our modern form of currency, when Shopify, our friends over at Shopify, pulled us all out of the dark, you know, we were using bags of shells and boxes of rocks as currency and coin of the realm

until Shopify came around and just revolutionized everything, started making everybody all this money. You remember those old days. That's not exactly how I would put it. I mean, Shopify. Well, yeah, let's see. You wanted a loaf of bread.

You go down to the breadmonger. You say, I have a bag of shells for you, sir. And he'd break you off a piece of bread and hand it to you, however much the shells were worth. That's pretty much the way things happened. Until Shopify has revamped this whole system. And now, if you're on a platform like Shopify, because they're all over the world,

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Let's go back to the end of the world. Do we have to go back, Daddy? Let's go back. A.E.W. Don't take me back. World's end in Orlando. We're ready for the next match. Well, it was the time for the time for the tournament final is what it was time for.

The tournament for the continental classic. Wait, but let me go back to Uncle Dave's thing. Does he say what exactly? exactly this goddamn deal was the Continental Classic. Well, it's the Continental Title. It used to be the classic when there was three belts involved, but now it's just the one belt because they split the other belts up. So the Continental Classic is only for the Continental Title.

Not to be confused with the Intercontinental Title. But it just so happens that the Continental Champion, Okada, is in the final. What if he wasn't? Well, no. Because they said last year that the Continental... champion would only be champion for one year and then the new champion would be the champion so he's got to come back and prove himself

that's when they took the other two belts out of it and gave him to other people because that would have muddied shit up really bad are you clear now i mean as clear as i'm going to get about this okay it was osprey and okada otherwise known as more of these two you know this this is okada's best match in a.E.W i think. Okay, again, to be the nicest guy in prison is not an honor that our children should aspire to. It's his best match out of a bunch of shitty matches. But again, regardless of whether they're

MDs or not, move-doers, here was the setup to this. Osprey bled a bucket in the previous match and went 20-something minutes. He comes out, his heads all bandaged, he's still blooded. He's selling the previous match so they start out the match by trading the forearms and then Osprey did a dive in the first 45 seconds and then they fought on the floor

for an extended period of time and Osprey gave Ocada gave Osprey a couple of different DDTs on the floor on his busted open head from the previous May

within the first two or three minutes I feel like I'm in hell being forced to watch the same thing over and over and over. Do you think Tony told Osprey about Ted DiBiase and Rick Flair with Dick Murdoch and 85 at Mid-South, and this is like their version of that? Like DiBiasey coming out after getting busted open and he's got the wrapping around his head and... But how could they even have a video...

And then Rick Flair, D.D. T's him on the floor a bunch of times. Well, yeah, they even had a video guide of how to do it then, if that's what they were trying to do, and they didn't do it. But the... Osprey is supposed to be the one fighting from underneath, you know, but then the injured guy is more like an Olympic gymnast suddenly, and Okada's bumping like he's made out of paper mache because he's, I don't care whether everybody says, oh, he turned it up or not. He's still doing everything he can to protect every part of his body. And they went back out to the floor for a while, and I zoned out. And then they both started going 100 miles an hour, and Osprey hit another style.

clash and got a two count. So he can he can go through all this and still hit the, and Okada hits a clothesline, he gets a two count. And then Osprey was selling like death

and Okada was just forearming him lackadaisically. And I got to be, there were 15 minutes in by this point. I zoned out, I fug it. I fast forwarded another couple of minutes. and they went back and forth and Okada closed-lined him one, two, three.

So just beat him flat. They put this broken down dumb shit over one of the two top baby faces they've got clean. I don't know why they do it at all, but they do everything in a goddamn world to each other. And then when they run out,

the heel just beats the baby face with a half-ass move that was less dangerous than 14 other things they did. And then they shook hands with each other. With Osprey, the baby face, on his knees in front of the Japanese prick that calls everybody bitch that just beat him. And he shook his hand while on his knees and bowed to him. He'd get a little head bow.

Is there any wonder why they can't keep viewers or make stars? When this whipped fucking puppy, he came in for millions of dollars as the second coming, even the first coming. And now he's fucking shaking hands with this broken down fucking asshole that they put over everybody and bowing to him. Can you tell me the

fucking idea behind this? You know, Will Osprey was the guy they had a chance to make their own breakout star or try to, and he's just another one of the guys in AEW losing matches. he's lost a lot of matches if you really think about it. And, you know, it was the best match Okada's had in AEW, but I think the problem is the finish. And I think we first noticed it a few pay-per-views ago.

The heels keep winning all the matches. And I know it's like an AEW fan base, like they're post baby-faced and heel, or at least that's what Cody was telling us a few years ago. Before he went back to where they were, They were baby face and heels and made a fucking fortune. We don't, we don't do anything with those boring tropes like baby faces and heels. We're past that.

Well, look at what goes on here. And I think the fans get more and more deflated. You know, they're all max now. And the interesting thing is, and they were hyping it up too, 2019, you can go on there and see the start of AEW. It's like another company. Big buildings, a lot of fans. not just the amount of people, how loud they are, how active they are.

It's another company. They burned out their fan base with the booking. And it's not going to get any better from here. All right, and explain this to me as soon as they're finished with the match, Chris Daniels comes out on the stage and congratulates Okada. And he says, I can't present the belt because I'm no longer an executive vice president. And they said that again on dynamite. but at the same time

they said but he's still an official of did he quit? Did someone demote him? What is this some sub-show story that's carried out on Rampage? Why is... Well, we told he was an EVP? I don't think he was ever an EVP.

I think he was Tony's fucking surrogate for a week there to come out and announce matches until he stopped doing that a week later. Well, anyway, he said, I can't present the belt. I'm no longer an EVP, but this man is, and they play music and out comes

the triumphant return of Twinkle Toes McFingerbang. He's back, good old Kenny. And he took the belt to the ring and handed it to Okada and turned around and left. And it was 30 minutes from the entrances of this thing to the belt handoff. So now we get the tease of Okada and Omega, which was a big match in New Japan.

How many years ago? I mean, you know, it's funny, you don't really think about how long ago it is. Was it before Okada's near fatal fucking train wreck he apparently was in? It was before that. It was before Kenny's issues. So you have to wonder what it would be like now. You have to wonder what kind of schedule Kenny's going to be able to work. And again, they bring him back for this, unannounced, comes out, presents the belt,

that he has nothing to do with, except he's EVP, I guess. He's wrestling at the Tokyo Dome. His return, that's what, he's an EVP again. So using his corporate duties, he's going to go wrestle for someone else. Oh, but he shows up on the show,

to give somebody else a belt, and then he goes to Japan and wrestles into, you would feel sorry for Tony if he hadn't had so many numerous episodes of proof that he's being, taken like a goddamn sucker and drained for his blood by these guys. Unless he buys New Japan.

That's the only way it makes any sense the amount of promotion all of a sudden he's giving New Japan. But we'll talk about Dynamo when we talk about it. Well, speaking of draining blood, can you imagine Tony Khan who thinks he understands the wrestling business in Japan trying to run a Japanese company? I can absolutely imagine that.

I'm not saying it's a good idea. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I can imagine Tony Khan thinking hey you know what i can run new japan how much is it i'll buy it well then we come to is this the last match thank fucking god the world title four way match was the big main event of this fiasco with pockets versus light switch j white versus hangnail page versus the champion dick the boozer the world's most dangerous plumber and it writes itself.

It started with a dive and a four-way on the floor. And since all three of these numb-nuts is are mad at the plumber, they're all ganging up on him at the start, and when they had him out on the floor it up against the railing, they beat on him with some of the fakesst-looking shit I've ever seen in a wrestling match. It was like they didn't want to piss him off. they were just at one point just I not even trying to do pockets as fake kicks

just they was just all fake and then Claudio came out and pulled Moxley over the rail and took him like to the back of the arena and the other three followed and they all fought in the stands and in the arena and Wheeler useless got involved

and Marina Schaefer and see but it's not as exciting as it sounded. They were all involved, but it was just the same bullshit where they fight out in the crowd, kind of, and then they fight back. Though fan reaction is part of the story. They don't react to any of this.

They're standing there smirking at them. They won't even get out of the way when these giant sweaty men are fighting in their direction. They're like, eh, they're not going to hurt me. And at four minutes in, Moxley and Pockets got it. in the ring, actually, and then they rolled back out. And then all three of them power bombed Moxley through the announced desk.

But then hangnail double-crossed the other three, and they had a three-way on the floor while Moxley sold the desk, sold the desk, but nobody would get in the ring. And then finally, in about ten minutes Dick the Boozer popped back up and beat up the mascot. And somewhere I guess on the desk, Moxley had busted the back of his head open.

And then Moxley and Page did fake forearms and bad indie spots. And then they went into the part where everybody did everything over and over. And Moxley was actually selling for the emaciated little fucking delinquent. I'm sorry, I should be more specific, the mascot.

And then Paige pulled out one referee so he couldn't count and they got a second referee in there but useless who's not even in the match came in and glommed him and beat him up and then Marina Schaefer got in but White grabbed her

without knowing it was her and gave her his finish which that actually got a pop and then useless hit the knee on White and Moxley gave White his double arm and Claudio rolled the first referee in and he did a flat, slow three count, and Moxley won again. And people are like,

hey. And then the heels went to start beating up Jay White. But then FTR's music played and they walked out to the ring and then the lights went out and Edge's music played and he came out looking like handsome Jimmy Valiant does today and

and then FTR slid in and had a sloppy fight with Claudio and Wheeler and beat them up and then Edge and the boozer faced off and Edge speared him and broke off the chair support and cross-faced him with it in his mouth because remember they did that in the WWE when Edge was a star.

And then Claudio pulled him out, and Edge started talking into a dead microphone and realized it. So it asked him if they'd give him another, they gave him another. And he told Moxley, you're all mine and we're taking it all. What are you taking and what do you want?

Keep calling him kid too. And then Tony Chivani, when he said, You're all mine. We're taking it all. Tony said, I love AEW. Yeah, there you go. There's a lot to break down there.

Tony Shivani sucks more than anything on commentary, because all he does now is just, wow, what a great roster we have. He said that the other night. I'm like, will you shut the fuck up? And then here, of course, he loves AEW because the cope returned with, not even the cope, just cope.

Adam Copeland, the Edge. returned with FTR who were deader right now than they've been since they first came in with that bad music driving a truck. No one wants to see the Moxley stuff to begin with. This isn't promising. And then it was just classic AEW. He gets the mic. He's all fired up.

And it doesn't work. And you see his face. And you feel bad for him. He's like, motherfucker, I'm ready. It wasn't even feeding the broadcast, but not the PA. It was just dead. It was feeding nothing. It was going out of it.

nowhere. They gave him a dead microphone. The baby face hits the ring and they gave him a dead microphone. Remember we talked the other day about, you know, great entrances where as soon as he hit the ring, somebody fucked and shit the bed. Yeah. This wasn't as bad as that. But him on the mic here talking to Moxley, that didn't, I don't think that was working. Based on everything Moxley's been doing, you know, the attempted murders and everything. Hey, kid, I'm better than you are, kid. but here's the problem is yes they've made the point that I think Edge said something to the effect of you know I started doing this when you were still growing pubs or whatever

but look at how old Moxley looks how old must Edge be and look at how old Edge is looking now so I don't know if kid is the thing I'd be calling the fucking 40 year old guy that looks 50 well that was AEW World's End an exciting end How many matches did the heels win? The main event, Moxon.

Okada, Monet, that's three in a row. Well, Ken, now, wait a minute. MJF. Hold on, is it every match? Mariah Bay? No, Osprey won the opener. That's right. Yeah.

The match that actually had the fans. And Okada beat Ricochet, but you can't really tell who the heel. I don't think Ricochet was all the way heel as the match started. I think after the match, it was firm. established he is now the heel. When the fans threw shit on him. Yeah. Okay.

So the heels won every match except for the opener, which coincidentally enough was the only match the fans were into from bell to bell. Well, it's your show, kid. Well, that was, uh, that was World's End, Grandpa. I can call you, kid, because I'm older than everybody. Kid, I mean, just, I don't know. If all the things to call Moxley there, it just doesn't, let me tell you something, asshole, like anything else.

Well, we have more AEW with Dynamite, but before we go there, let's break it up a little bit. Because Raw, which we're not going to review all of, no, please no. No, because we're going to do that next week when they debut on the, what is it, what are they on now? Netflix? The Netflix. The Netflix. Well, there was one thing on Raw this week, though, that was worth you reviewing, and I know you watched it, and let's talk about CM Punk and Seth Rollins.

Well, I was trying to detox from most wrestling, but when I heard it, about this segment. I didn't turn my DVR off. It was still there. So I had to go back and look. It was the main event, the last segment of Raw. And Seth Rollins, we have, we've liked his promos when he's more serious. And when he does the, you know, the acid trip thing, we just, we haven't liked him so much.

But he still managed to do his gimmick, but be serious. he and punk went at each other verbally back and forth with the most venomous barbs they aired out why they don't like each other and it all made sense with their history and they both believed that they have a point and the people were eating it up and they were ooing and on on every word it was as good a face-to-face interaction between two opponents building a match as you. you will see in today's modern environment. And it was done to build up and promote next week. We're going to get the biggest fight. They're calling the biggest fight. In the

WWE is going to be Seth Rollins and CM Punk on the debut of Netflix. And they did, what was it? Was it 10 minutes? Maybe it's 50. It flew by because you didn't want it to be over. But they did the best job

you could possibly do in today's environment of talking up a fucking match between two guys and making people just halfway believe something might go on. I applauded them for it. You know, beyond the outfit, this was the best of Rollins on the mic. Someone who I've criticized a lot on the mic, this was the best of what he could do when he actually believes some of what he's saying.

Yeah. And again, that's the thing, is they had punk, who was half the equation, and we all know how that turned out and God damn it it's almost embarrassing at this point that the WWE has

Seth Rollins and Roman Rains that were the plumber's partners and they're two of the biggest stars and the biggest company in the world and here's this fucking bald obscure motherfucker on the other side trying to do his own indie movie to dwindling response from dwindling audience that's right but

Ripping on me during the Raw Review. Who saw that coming? But I mean, again, this is the guy that when they were all three together, Uncle Dave said, oh, well, the star is going to be this Dean Ambrose character. He's great. We have great talks. But yeah, Seth and Seth Rillan, see him punk. I've already had Stacey download or install or upload or whatever you do to the Netflix

so I can see it on the TV and the house that I know how to operate. and I'm going to be waiting for the biggest fight in the WWE. Well, any thoughts on the actual context of the segment, the things they were saying, the insults levy? Well, yes, well, I didn't make notes because I was still on my vacation, so I don't want to not do justice to some of their accusations. But it was the flavor of the whole thing. They're both serious. They both sound like they mean it. They both have their points, and they get.

get the ooze and ahs into right places. And that's the thing is especially at that stage with that, you know, level of importance on the line to have something that good between two guys that goes that long and really builds up their fucking issue without resorting to the, and then somebody's going to jump somebody and put them through a table. They just talked to each other and swore they were going to rip each other limb from limb.

That's what we need to see. but there's so few guys that can carry it off. Should there have been people in between them? Well, you know, I always now just accept that there's not going to be a show host, an announcer, holding the microphone, not even refereeing, but just being the facilitator in between to still make it look like a professional sports program. We've lost that. It's probably not coming back.

So, yeah, there should. I'm not saying... that you should have had 18, you know, guys, indie guys dressed as security guards. People have smartened up to that. Those fucking haircuts that half of them have. Just have the announcer and have the announcer have enough respect from the people, like a Gordon Solie or a Lance Russell or Jim Ross or whatever.

They're not going to just bully the guy. AEW, Tony Schiavani's the worst, but all of them do it. There'll be an announcer for the program there talking. to people and as soon as somebody comes up and interrupts, they just fucking bail. They don't. Wordlessly here, take the microphone, you guys take over. The fuck, do they do that in the National Basketball Association? We're on wide world of sports?

So I've accepted that, but yes, there should. It would help, I think, these segments if there was somebody there at least at the start that stayed with it and hung with it until maybe they got heated and snatched. his microphone away or whatever the fuck. But somehow maintaining control of the program, but we've lost that in modern wrestling. What'd you think of the,

I think it was two different times, the comments about Vince. Oh, yeah. When Rollins said you took your ball and you went home and punk rightfully so brought up, that's a Vince line, which is bullshit. And second time,

when he said, I didn't have a problem with the place, the guy who ran it. Well, that was the thing is when he said, I didn't have a problem with the place, I had a problem with the guy that ran it, that he got the ooh, but then he doubled down on it and said, but he just loved you, didn't he?

Oh, that was good. And, you know, I'm telling, it's, it's a friendly shoot. You're not, you're not calling out, you know,

how bad the guy looks physically, or how old he is, or how he's had 14 hair transplants. You're getting, edgy cutting lines in on a guy that are sometimes so uncomfortable that the fans may think well there's no way he agreed to let him say that

he had to just come out with that about shit that doesn't detract from anybody as a wrestler or a competitor or a fucking guy you don't like you're not trying to be you know funny like stand up funny where everybody has to let you're like

trying to fucking humiliate him with a funny line or stick him with a pointed comment without you know bringing up well and also you know everybody knows that you haven't got your dick hard since 2017 that's you know

that's why I don't understand why they tear all the guys down on a EW instead of because they don't have any producers instead of having people building each other up but making each other uncomfortable verbally in the WW

which is what is a lot of these promos is what led to the success that they're having now. Well that'll be on Raw on Netflix, the big debut, three hours and of course... Well, no, have you heard this too? God damn it, now we're in worse shape than when we started.

Because Raw was three hours and Smackdown was two hours, but now Raw went to two hours and everything was manageable and now Raw's going to three hours and so is Smackdown. So now we've lost another hour of our fucking lives every week. Why don't we do like a weekly poll like the fast forward hour?

There's one hour on one of these shows that enough people agree that we could fast forward that we don't feel like we pissed off too many people. Well, but the cunning bastards, they sprinkle it through to where, you know, there's at least one star in every hour. We'll figure that out. Well, three hours of Raw and three hours of Smackdown, you know what that really means. it means one more hour I'll be falling asleep early. And of course, if you're going to fall asleep early or late or at the normal time...

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Well, let's get back to, hold on. I got that up. That was a shell I coughed up just now. It's back when we used to use shells for currency. Well, let's get back to the coin of the realm now. And that, of course, is distribution.

whether it's TV, whether it's streaming, or in this case, for both companies, a new beginning, AEW, the first dynamite of the year, the first show to be simulcast on Max, the streaming service. I ended up doing both on two different monitors in the office to weigh the experience, but let's talk about AEW Dynamite.

Well, how much did the experience weigh? On Max, you get everything you get on TBS, minus picture and picture. You get full screen ads. So you get less on the max than you do on the regular television. Technically, if you consider picture and picture to be part of the match you want to see

and it's hard to watch any kind of wrestling like that. Well, yes. But you don't get that at all. That content, because some people thought it would be, I guess, fight or something used to stream dynamite and during the commercial breaks, you got whatever they were actually filming

during the commercial breaks. Which was the match. But that ain't going to happen here. That's right. So fuck you then is what they're saying. I don't know who's saying it exactly. Well, a lot of people, they say it. A lot of people are saying it.

But this, it was a brand new year, Brian, January 1st, 20 at 25, 20 of 25. That's the year. They were at the old Asheville Civic Center, which now apparently has been rebranded the Harris Center of some description. And Tony has gone on a music experience. again. He's gotten cutting edge theme music for dynamite.

It's the new stuff, it's the happening stuff with the kids these days. It's the electronic dance music, right? That is all the rage. I'm so excited by who the pointed sisters. The pointer sisters. Oh, come on. They're great. Don't put them down.

A brand new group. People were upset and when they would tell me that I'm behind the times in Smoggy Mountain Wrestling when I would use music that was eight years old. This music is 36 years old. Well, beyond that, and I like the Pointer Sisters. Very talented women.

It don't fit wrestling. It did not fit the clips they were even showing with it right there at the open. The first thing he shows Moxley. And he doesn't make anybody excited. When you see Moxley, do you think of the Pointer Sisters? I don't think of excitement. I bet neither does Renee.

was another song in a hand I want a booker with a slow hand I want a producer with an easy touch someone who will teach these I'm sorry you go ahead maybe your lyrics are better someone who will run off the audience I don't know where exactly I was going to

I was going for someone who will tell these dumb fucks how to work a match but anyway I guess we shouldn't sing at all because it's time talk about this program they started out with Okada

to calling him the greatest tournament wrestler of all time then Dick the boozer was in the hallway with his stooges okay you had asked me before we went on the air did you listen to the Moxley promo and I said I tried to

they're in a concrete hallway they're using boom mics and they're echoing and it sounds like they're in an oil drum and he's slobbering and he's drooling and the shit that he says is incomprehensible anyway and they had two cameras in his hallway and he was trying to decide

which camera to talk to so he started talking to both of them the deal with two cameras there is you're supposed to talk to one and the other one is supposed to be able to something that they can cut to seeing you talk to the first camera just to have some variety in the shot you're not supposed to talk to both those fucking cameras you've seen the effect I'm talking about on various

television programs they're talking to one the other one's looking from the side I've seen it on their program that's the way they've done it in the past even with some of the Moxley promos outdoors well he's talking to all of but what was he saying because again between the oil drum audio and the drooling and the slobbering and the story that he's trying to tell anyway, which I ain't figured out. What the fuck did he say? Yeah, the death riders, or as I call them, Moxley and the charisma vacuums.

Oh my God, they just stand there and suck out the energy. I had a reaction, I put it on Twitter even, he's starting to sound like my impression. Like more than ever before, he's talking so much gibberish and shit and the way he's saying it and delivering it, he's starting to sound like a mockery of himself. And at one point, he's building up his whole little crew

and marching back and forth. This is the line that got me. He goes to Marina Shafira. She stands there, stone-faced, and doesn't react to a fucking thing. And he goes, she is an impeachable character. And he meant unimpeachable, and he said impeachable. He's all serious and deadly, and he said that, and I lost it. I lost it.

repose in her any day of the week. She's impeachable. Well, he was talking about his thoughts I took a bullet. And you're going to take a bullet. Now he's in Rambo, first blood, and he's out in the fucking woods, and they're shooting at him. Watch out, Brian Denny he.

Bless his little peepick and heart. He was a big man. He just passed not long ago. We should be respect. Oh, you're right. He was a good actor. Didn't get enough roles. The roles he had were good, but...

That's right. He was always late to catering. The rolls were always gone. He got stuck with the leftovers of the salad. But then after... Just waiting until I see FX2. If Moxley ever starts watching FXX will be really in trouble. Then they went from that to FTR and Edge doing a promo.

We just talked about cheesy shirt designs of the 80s. The rated FTR shirts, oh boy. Does that look like... Is that going to be the next? next Austin 316 or a smoking skull shirt. Brian, that colorful little FT rated FTR logo. I don't know. I got a bad feeling about this.

I mean, we'll see how much of, we'll see where it goes after they leave their hometown next week. But I mean, FTR have done this before. Remember right before Punk left? All of a sudden it was CM FTR or whatever it was. Well, FTR was over at that point. So it was punk. And they had good matches.

But this, wearing the cheesy shirts and interacting with the people they're having to interact with now, I don't hold on a lot of hope. Well, we'll talk about the one later on with Big Bill, because I think that was a good exposure of the problem. But I don't know how this is going to work. Well, then, so we went from the Pointer Sisters to Dick the Boozer in the hallway, Edge and FTR doing the promo, and then the first entrance for the first match starts and its pockets. This is a supposedly important show in the first day of the new year, and we get backstage promo, backstage promo, company mascot. And they actually, his graphic was, he is AEW's win leader for two straight years.

Not only is that a problem because it's true, but it's a problem because they released the information. Can you imagine the WW on Monday Night Raw as here comes Tzawa to the ring, Tazawa is W.W.E.'s win leader two years in a row. This is what's wrong. By the way, what does that mean? Does that mean he also wrestled the most amount of matches? No, that means he's won more matches than anybody else in a fucking company for the past two years in a row.

There are people would hire winning percentages, but he's won the most matches. Yes. And that means that a lot of people lost fucking matches to this fucking joke. Should they have loaded up this show a little more with stars actually being there

for Max or should they just treated this the way they treated this show? Oh my God. Not even just load up with stars if you can find them, but also with something good to look at if they thought they were going to be

exposed to a new audience. this started out bad and got worse. And that's who I'm saying. You lead with the fucking nondescript company mascot, a joke comedy wrestler, wrestling Adam Page, and you give them 12 minutes before page of legitimate wrestler in their universe

wins with his finish. And then he gets some more heat and gives him two dead eyes. And Daniels and the referees come out and Page beats up Daniels. So, yeah, they're trying to get heat on Adam Page, but give him a real opponent for fuck's sake if that's the first thing that people are going to see

when they tune into your program on a new platform. Don't make them immediately think, oh, well, this is some kind of kids wrestling or low-budget bullshit or whatever, which is what normal people think when they see Orange Cassidy. they went too long. I was starting to get dead eye myself watching this man.

But yeah, no star power here. And they begin with Adam Page getting a long win. As a positive, beyond the Pointer Sisters, and again, that's not, I like the Pointer Sisters, it's not the right usage of it. I like the look of this show. If this is a little glimpse of the look going forward in a smaller buildings or with a smaller setup,

no ramp. I thought that looked good. Now they need the crowd to have energy, but the way it, I thought in a smaller building with a smaller crowd, it actually looked really good. On camera, when you're in a building

where your stage is bigger than the amount of the crowd you can shoot on the other side, that looks like you're in an airplane hanger. So now they've still got the same amount of people, but smaller stage, smaller building, they can shoot the same amount of people, but it looks like more, if that makes

sense to you. It's trick photography. As the Monroe brothers would say, it's a tropical illusion. But anyway, the second match, I actually did some business, and imagine that, because it's the Hurt Syndicate. Shelton Benjamin and Bobby Lashley with MVP against the acclaimed, and they're doing the deal that Castor is a heel and he's a prick

and he and Bowens have been arguing with each other but again every time that there's a segment with Shelton Benjamin or Bobby Lashley or MVP more often than not

there's that time that swerve ran out in the parking lot just pushed them all over but more often than not they get over it makes sense it works for them they establish themselves as stars. And before I talk about this, I will say another thing that I watched

on the Christmas break, I had to because I heard about it, and I said, oh, man, but it was actually good. Shelton had a match with old Danny Garcia on collision as part of this bogus tournament. And of course they put Garcia over, which is a booking crime

that should be punishable by firing squad. when you got Shelton getting over like a fucking star and to have this bland indie fucking mooch beat him, but since they had to in his screwy fococta tournament, as Howard Finkel would have said, very good. Shelton had a match with him that he obviously called and produced and controlled,

where he threw him around and manhandled him through the whole fucking match, gave Garcia hope spots and moments of shine and then shut him down and then lost on a complete fluke with a roll-up. And the baby face rolled out on the floor and Shelton was like, what the fuck happened? That shouldn't have happened.

He did the best that he could with that situation and still did, if that was an isolated thing, where was the only time Shelton had been beat, I would say, well, that was brilliant. Even though you picked the wrong guy to do it, that's the way you beat a guy that's still getting over as a star and doing a good job of it.

But then he does jobs for other people too, and there's only so far you can take that before a guy that's even doing a tremendous job of getting over on his own is hamstrung by these fucking indie goofs that he's having to put over. But I wanted to mention that. If anybody wants to see an example of how a top guy should work with a mid-card guy and has to slip on a banana peel and put the mid-card guy over, but still come out looking like a star,

that matches as close as you'll find one today. Sadly, it cost them three points. Yes, unfortunately. That three points could have made all the difference. He might have made it to the clubhouse. But anyway, and they mentioned that the acclaimed have had, they're talking about how they've been such a long-running team. They've had 81 matches as a team.

That's fucking two and a half months worth of fucking tag team wrestling at any other point in history. Did you see the promo they did before the match? Yes, they were argued with each other and Castor's being a prick and he's the best wrestler in the world and Bowens is fed up with him. He had one of my favorite, I don't even know if it's a line or just the way he did it because I always want someone to do something like this. He goes, I'm the best wrestler in the world and Bowen stops him and starts giving him a hard time. and Castor says, now, when we're doing our interview? Like, you had all week? Now?

You know what? Seriously, more people should say that. Castor's in maybe the best shape he's been in. I have no idea what the hell they're doing with him. Well, yeah, that's the thing is they're not only turning him, but they're making him out to be an asshole that you don't like and a heel that you wouldn't give a shit about, an idiot. Yeah.

And so basically, Bobby beat up Castor for a while and the fans were chanting Bobby, Bobby and then Bowens got in with Shelton and again you remember when I was talking before about somebody went back

and did the same thing that they had just fucked up and told the people blatantly that they had fucked it up by going back doing the same thing the acclaimed were trying to do a blind tag but they Shelton was backing up Bowens

but Castor was on the wrong side of the ring post and he tried to step up on the ropes and reach over and tag Bowens' his shoulder which none of that would have been illegal anyway. Your feet have to be on the apron and you've got to tag hand to hand but he couldn't fucking reach him and Shelda had to just shoot him off and then Bowens

they were tried to shoot him up but Bowens realized that he hadn't been tagged and he stopped, and it was awkward, and they went back into it. And as they were going back into it, Castor goes around to the proper side of the ring post and shows, oh, he was on the wrong side, and they did the exact same thing, where now Castor slaps Bowens on the shoulder, and Bowens is mad that Castor tagged himself in. But they can't even goddamn call something else in the ring when they fucked one thing up

to get to the same place. And if they don't know how to do a blind tag, somebody, a producer, for instance, could have illustrated, hey, numnuts, if the guys got you in a headlock, then you need to be on this side of the post or that side of the post and you need to reach out this way. Or if the guy's going to shoot you off,

you've got to be on the other side. But they're just... So then they did... Then Sheldon did four German suplexes on Castor while Bowens walked out because he was mad at him. And in Lashley destroyed Castor and Hurt locked him and they beat him. So that was fine. The Hurt syndicate was not damaged in this, but Castor must have really pissed these people off because they're actively trying to make people say, fuck this fucking guy.

It's a weird, I guess, slow build isn't the right word. It's a weird, slow train wreck, I guess, watching the acclaim break up, right? I mean, it's been going on for a little while. Started calling himself the best wrestler alive or whatever months ago. But this is being done in such a weird way. You know, with someone I castor, who keeps getting in trouble for shit he says,

and people know that, fucking run with that. Not to say he's Brian Pilman or anything, but if people know the guy keeps getting in trouble, and you plan to continue to employ him, why not do something with that instead of making him, they turned him into a jerk-off character because he's a fool now.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're not trying to make a heel that will draw money or sell tickets. They have said, we hate this fucking guy, and we want to make him go out on television and either act as stupid as possible or we want to treat him as badly as possible. Or they just don't know how to book anything. One of the other.

The fans really reacted to the Hertz syndicate. Again, they continue to like their stars. There was a spot, a little thing I liked, where Shelton and Bowens bumped into each other, but Shelton didn't move, Shelton didn't flinch, even though Bowens is kind of the, I guess you'd say he's the power guy of the tag team, even though Castor's a bigger guy,

but Bowens kind of wrestles like that. Shelton didn't move, and Shelton shouldn't. Shelton's been treated, other than a loss to a Daniel Garcia or a very, very long match with a commander or shit like that. Shelton's been used better here, and because of that,

he's come across, I think, is a bigger star so far. Well, yeah, and it's not even the... It's not the way he's being used. It's the way he's performing. Right now, Shelton Benjamin is the best wrestler at AEW. I can make that blanket statement, because think about it. Who else has come in,

and six weeks later, eight weeks later, has been even more over, has more interest, has gotten over by his matches as a top guy that you would believe in, then Shelton Benjamin has everybody else comes in and within weeks, people can't stand them. Or they're the shits. Or nobody cares. Or maybe a hecachero. Oh, come on.

No, but seriously, from the moment they walk out, I'm not crazy about the music, to be honest with you. No. From the moment they walk out. It's not the pointer sisters. When they walk out MVP with Lashley and Shelton right there, I mean, they look like stars. They look like they should be kicking everyone's ass, and so far they have. Yeah, but that's why I'm saying Shelton Benjamin is the best wrestler in AEW right now, because he is the only one that has come in, and I don't know how long,

and done what you're supposed to do, which is go out and have matches that get yourself over as a legitimate threat to anybody. He's not been helped by the booking. He hasn't been tremendously hurt by it. and most of the people didn't see him get beat by some of these, you know, jobbers. But he's the only one. So he's the best wrestler in AEW right now. He's the only one doing what he's supposed to do.

Sorry. But now he's got competition, Brian, as best wrestler at AEW, because the next match was Jamie Hader versus Julia Hart. Oh, come on. Did I miss anything? involved in this. Well, tell me what I missed until I got to the finish, which I got to as quickly as possible. Jamie Hater is like, I don't know. She used to be out there looking like a badass. I think she had a little more weight at that time, but also just to look what she was wearing her hair. Like plaid

and glitter. I don't know. Like she looks like a hostess at the fucking pancake cottage with a wedgy. And I like Jamie Hattie. And I like Jamie Hattie. hate her, but her looks and she's returned is just, I think, she loses some of her charisma, I guess is the way I want to say it. But the match was all right, I guess it went a while, went through a commercial break. And Julia Hart sprayed the mist. Well, wait a minute, don't know. You're jumping ahead because first she got an arrow.

Yes, she's known for her archery. She's trying to win her way to your heart. Yes, archer heart. she gets an arrow and brings it into the ring and referee Aubriette she's on the spot as usual she was she was right there and she gets the arrow and is going to hand the arrow out and as she turns her back Julia Hart spits it was called missed

it was allegedly missed I didn't see anything well she spit it in Jamie Hader's face but either there was some something and it... I think did she maybe spit the whole fucking rubber out? Because... Explain yourself, please, before you get in trouble with it? No, but she had to...

Because there was no mist on her mouth, there was no mist on Jamie Hader's face, there was no mist on the mat or anybody's hands. I think she tried to bite the fucking rubber and spit the mist and spit the whole fucking rubber out. For people who don't know, that's the way to do it. You load up a condom? Yeah.

Well, who doesn't know that? Has anyone ever just spit out the condom before? Yes. Yes. It can happen. And also, you know, if you take the Alka-Seltzer, see you phone with the mouth, sometimes you spit the fucking Alka-Seltzer out. But I, because there was no mist in her mouth at all on her chin,

nothing on anybody's hands, nothing. and Jamie Hater kept her face covered up with her hands as she was rolling around and selling so nobody could see it but there was no mist but the announcer was, oh, the mist and it burns. So maybe a

instead of it just either that or they're just they're just ribbing Julia Hart telling her keep putting these rubbers in your mouth for practice. Well, Julia Hart got the win and then of course...

I wonder what they've knotted up in those things. She lip synced her song afterwards, of course, and that was her big return. Welcome back, 2025, Julia Hart. Well, and then we got packages on Felcher and Osprey and Okada and Kenny because those are the rivalries we have to look forward to, I guess,

while WWS punk and Rollins. Uh, okay, why did Mercedes moan need the special table set up in the ring with her display of belts that she's gotten from various sources that nobody cares about and the champagne bottle and the fucking champagne glass and she came out to cut a promo

basically saying she's wrestling old Mina Melons in the Tokyo Dome Saturday for another promotion, New Japan, and she wants the Rev Pro Championship, whatever that may be, to add to her women's title in AEW and her New Japan Strong Women Championship, and it's going to be title versus title

with old Mina Melons. And then she drank champagne and did the stripper dance and left. Well, they also had a video. They had a video of her in 2024, some of her big matches, was not a sign of Camille anywhere. Well, yeah, but I mean, you know, that's old, old news under the bridge and around the corner

of the bend and down the stream. That we've, you know, Camille's gone. She escaped. Who knows what kind of paperwork was signed for her not to reveal how she managed to get out of there so quick. You know, and that's another thing. How many, how many guys and or girls are sitting there under the contract? I know a bunch of them are just saying, hey, this guy will pay me.

no matter what happens, as long as I just sit here. But some of them want to get out of there. Some of them want to escape. There's a lot. More than people realize, yeah. Did I wonder how much dissension that is spread when Camille was able to fucking get to fuck out of there? Well, again, let's find out what happened.

We still don't know where Odyssey Jones went. But back to this Mercedes-Money-Ponel. Well, no, we know why Odyssey Jones went. We think we do. That's never been confirmed, has it? Well, at least it was suspect. Nobody has said Camille was on the lamb from the FBI or fucking engaged in international terrorism

or some unsavory activity. We know that she was brought in, booked to the moon for two weeks, flummoxed and fumbled, made to look like an idiot, and just when we were saying, my God, can't she get out of there before it ruins her career,

she's gone, and they don't even mention her name anymore. This promo, though, after they show the video she's standing in and she does this promo on Mina Shirakawa and the Tokyo don't match they put up a graphic in the lower left hand corner for the Tokyo don't match

I'm like oh you know I don't even think about it being this weekend I don't even think about New Japan anymore maybe I'll get it but it didn't say available on pay-per-view it didn't say stream here nothing they were basically advertising a match

that if you were in the general vicinity of Tokyo Are you ribbing me? No. Did you see anything that's available on pay-per-view? Well, no, but I wasn't looking because I don't intend to fucking look at it. If it's available on every fucking channel, I'll turn the TV off. As I'm looking at the graphic and I'm thinking, man, this match isn't available anywhere. Then she goes, and I want you to put up the Rev Pro title to no reaction because no one's ever heard of this belt. It's never been mentioned before.

So again, they're plugging another company show which... But they're actually selling a show in another country that you can't even. even watch? Hold on. Let's see. Russell Kingdom. They didn't say you could watch it.

So, wrestle, kingdom. What the fuck? Just so they can masturbate to the idea that they're getting to work in Japan? You could watch it apparently on Triller.

Oh, boy. Or on, well, this can't be right. New Japan World. See, he says RTN horse racing and the disc golf network. I don't know if these are just other networks.

But they didn't say any of that. They basically just put up a graphic for a match that they're not going to have on A.W. TV. For a title that's not an A.E.W. title. It's not even a New Japan title. That's the lack of focus there. Even if Tony wants to let these people do all these things, how does it help them for any viewer who's tuning in to ever follow along and care enough if it's just referencing all sorts of shit you can't keep up with? because it's not even on the show. So, yeah, they advertise the match that's not available. Well, yeah, I wish more of them were like that.

But then we got to 9 o'clock, and we got to see the equivalent of an 80-gram charitable presentation on Florida Championship Wrestling. Dax and Cash, I think Dax was the one that I nodded, noted, was there, presenting a $25,000 check for Asheville's, hurricane recovery and relay that was very nice and they live there and they've been spearheading that did you see when they showed the first responders in the building?

No, I didn't see that because I zip through the commercial breaks until I see what I believed to be a wrestler and then I stop and so some of that went by. I was watching a commercial, me and Stace both were thinking, is this part of the wrestling and then it was a commercial? So I didn't see that part. You sure was a commercial or a teaser for Bandito? coming back again.

But, no, I have a feeling it'll be a while before he comes back again. I'm not sure, but so they show all this stuff and it's nice. It's wonderful that AEW is being supportive of the community there and the things are getting done. I just saw a video that like the Amish showed up and in a couple days. What made them furniture? What is they? They built 80 little houses in like two days or something like that.

Holy shit. Yeah, they just came and built, you know, small little housing. You know, say what you want to about them fucking Amish, but they're dedicated. man, if you can get Amish book cabinets, those are the best ones. They're just not allowed to read any of the books that rest on the bookshelves, but you, the presentation, the first responders. Oh, so then they go back to the building and they say, here we have, here we have some of actual first responders, whatever he fucking says.

I guess it was supposed to be like someone from, whatever, there were four guys standing there in darkness. So the camera's filming them, you can't see any of their faces. It's just four silhouettes standing. Oh, good. for like a minute and they're like, here are the first responders and you can't see who any of them are. They're able to respond so quickly

because they're mere shadows. They just fly around. Yes. They can appear out of nowhere. Well, you'll be happy to know that Officer Barb Brady got together with Adam Cole and Kyle O'Reilly and Roderick Strong and they're back together. That trio of miscreants.

and they got a three-way match coming up here that was next after this interview where Roderick Strong was going to wrestle Jay White was going to wrestle swerve Strickland and the winner of the three-way gets into next week's casino gauntlet match to determine the winner of that will get a world title match the following week on TV.

I believe I covered that correctly, didn't I? Yes. The casino gauntlet is back. Just what we needed. And I swear to, guy, again, it's a three-way match, make of it what you will, with confusing stipulations of the guy goes into the casino

gauntlet, and last time Roddy was in a casino gauntlet match, Brian, he didn't even get to get in it because it ended before he got in it. Which is another thing that's wrong with their fucking match. But finally, swerve is on the floor. And from the crowd, ricochet runs up to the rail behind him wearing a suit

and stabs him in the head with golden scissors. Wasn't that a Beatles song? Golden scissors in your head. It was golden slumbers and it wasn't in your head. Well, I was slumbering by this point because it was so boring, but he stabbed him in the head with the golden scissors

and then was standing there at the rail literally one foot away from the people in the front row and the fans were standing next to him just staring at him. And one guy's got his phone up just lackadaisically, oh, they're next to me. He's stabbing people in the head with scissors, and they don't care. Where's security?

Obviously, the security in Asheville's gone downhill. Where's Doug Dillinger when you need him? And I told Stace, I pointed out, I said, I backed it up. I said, look at this. I've been in that building a bunch of times, and I guarantee you if I had come up on the fan side of the railing and grabbed Ricky Morton and stabbed him in the head with scissors, I wouldn't have got out of there alive after the next 15 seconds.

They would have been on me like duck on a Junebug, like ugly on an ape, like white on rice, like bad booking in AEW. And then Jay White hit Roderick Strong with his finish, one, two, three, and left. And then you see that swerve got juice, and Rickache is still standing there, now goes after swerve with the scissors.

And there's Prince Nanna. And he goes up to Rikosha, and Rikishay stood him off by pointing the scissors at him. So Nana just stood there and watched Rikishay stab, swerve, and punch him. and remember I've told you just because the announcer is not our announcer the manager is not supposed to be able to beat up a wrestler doesn't mean when it's a baby face manager he should not try to in some way help his friend but he stands there through all that he's stabbing him in the head with scissors then when ricochet goes and gets a chair that's when nana springs into action and he grabs the chair away from or tries to from ricketts So Ricochet shoves Nana into the stairs and takes the chair and hits him with it. And then takes the chair in the ring and unfolds it and sits next to swerve and head butts him

so he can get his blood on his suit and then put swerve in the chair. And swerve is sitting there like an imbecile. While Rickshay backed all the hip across the ring and ran and clothes lined him. while he was looking at him coming. And then Roddy and Cole and Kyle O'Reilly getting the ring and Rickishay bails out. And the fans were standing there silent, immobile, faintly smiling. What are they doing? I don't know.

I get the idea of wanting to do hot angles where baby faces get brutalized. We all saw Tommy Rich bleed all over the place for you. years, but the fans weren't really reacting. The babyface that made the save, kind of recent baby faces that the fans haven't taken to in the undisputed kingdom, that do nothing but get the shit kicked out of them. And yeah, security does nothing. He stabs the guy.

How many times have we seen swerve down and out now? See, that's the thing, like I said, I see doing that with a baby face and the value in it. I don't think it's working here. Swerve is not the traditional. baby face since he's the home invader and the baby threateninger and the most dangerous man in AEDA... How is he the most, the most dangerous man? Bad things will happen to you if you're close to him?

Because he's always getting a shit kicked out of him and you'll catch some of it? Yeah, the fans started reacting to him when he was a bad guy, then they made him a baby face getting his ass kicked and not reacting the same way anymore. They like Swerve's house because that's their part, that's their line. They all want to be... Let's face it, the prime AEW audience is Marks, that want to be in the ring, like the ones that are already in the ring.

And they identify with some of these marks that are already in the ring, because they think of, if this guy can do it, I can. Anybody can. So they want their audience participation. And it's the same thing in a lot of cases with the Cody Rhodes, whoa! Or the Seth Rollins, whoa, or whatever, they like the audience participation, but that's all swerves got now. is they want to chant Swerve's house.

And otherwise, they need to call Swerve a fucking ambulance every week. Yeah. You think he regrets throwing that toilet paper at Rickashay a couple of days before this? Well, you know, he brought it on himself now that you think about it. If he hadn't opened his big mouth

in his big bathroom and brought out all that toilet paper, the Rickshay wouldn't have to stab him in the head with scissors. You know, it really hit me this week, too, coming out of the pay-per-view, they had such a long gap between the pay-per-view and dynamite. It didn't feel like they had any momentum coming out of it to carrying the dynamite.

You know, it would be one thing of dynamite was on Monday. But being on Wednesday and the pay-per-view Saturday, and then none of the people, MJF wasn't at the, wasn't at Dynamite Live, Kenny wasn't there.

You know, I don't know, it just felt like they didn't really, if they had any momentum coming out of that pay-per-view, they didn't capitalize on it. Well, I think they had a lot of momentum and all of it was slow. And then

the next segment puzzled me and I like Jeff Jarrett. I'm a fan of his work and I'm a fan of what he's done in the business and in my opinion they should have had him at least promoting live events or agenting some matches or trying to teach some of these

dumb shits how to work a long time ago. But I don't understand what they did here because it's going to to lead to having to look at Jeff Jarrett versus Dick the Boozer if it's followed through on and I feel sorry for Jeff at this point in his life that he has to tolerate

having to work with a fucking louse like that but I don't know that it's going to do any good for AEW or more just tear down somebody else that's having to get in the ring with the plumber but they did the backstage interview with Lethal and Sanjay and Zippy the Pins head and they haven't seen Jeff but then Jeff comes in and they know it's a big night for Jeff but they were beating around the bush without saying what was going on and they said well we can't find Karen Jeff said can you find Karen that's what Kurt said well hey not at the double tree

and then Karen comes in and says I know wrestling is what brought us together but it's also sometimes I've seen it tear you apart and I'll support you she pledged her undying love with whatever he was going to do if he was going to go through with this, whatever this was. So then they go to a break and they come back and Jeff comes to the ring with his boots in his hand

and a guitar on a stand. So now he's got the boots in his hand. You know he's teasing his retirement and he got emotional and I said he had a lot in his career to be thankful for and it's sad to think about things maybe coming to an end and he gave the history of the Jared family

started in 1946 in Nashville when his grandmother took a second job selling tickets we've covered it in more detail than they have on this on their program and it changed his family's life and I never heard her called the CFO before well chief financial officer met she was the one that kept the books

for Nick and Roy. No, I know she was. I just never heard her called that before. Well, because there was no title, but it sounds better than saying she was the bookkeeper, but she did keep the books. And Nina Bond

was the only other lady working in the office. And she wasn't as good with numbers as teen he was. But then in Jerry's history and then he started in 1986, Jeff did, and finally he picked up the boots and he said should the last outlaw ride off into the sunset?

Hell no. And then he revealed, I've signed my last wrestling contract. I re-signed with AEW. So he's 56 years old. Or 55, I'm trying to count. Point being, if, you know, probably this is the last contract he signed, but he signed a contract

and told he's going to pay him for another two years or three years. years or whatever, I guess. And they've already buried him and his whole crew of misfits, so I don't know what positive is going to come of it. They won't put him in positions that he has experience in that could help

this company greatly. But he challenged for the title. He said, I want AEW gold on my last run. I want to get in the gauntlet match next week. And my New Year's resolution is to become AEW World Champion.

Are you excited about where this is going to go? You know, I'm trying to keep an open mind about it because if it really, you know, wrestling is about lying to people, but if it's really his last year, did he say year or just last contract? Last contract. So it could be multiple years. I guess that confirms he's not a triple H guy. I just don't want to see him have to work with Moxley.

Well, yeah, I think it's more about the road to getting a title match, which could be interesting. That's why I'm not just shitting on this than the actual title match. And there goes, Swami. If Jeff has to... Swami thinks you're full of shit. If Jeff has to somehow run through

some kind of obstacle course to get there, it could be interesting. I just don't know what you know about it. It could be interesting or it could also be fucked up like everything else they do. And they'd have, they've had what,

three or four years now to make Jeff, to do anything with Jeff. That's the other problem. If they begin, they begin this segment, really, with that promo in the back. Jay Lethal, Sanjay Dutt, and the Giant, they've been treated a certain way on that show that you know how you should treat them. So when you begin with Jeff, like, they should have almost done this where Jeff didn't even reference them.

I just went out there and did it. Can you imagine if they had given Jay Lethal half of the push they've given that fucking Garcia? A guy that can really work and a guy that can really talk. a guy that looks like something and a guy that has experience and people know who the fuck he is on some level already and then you start giving him wins over top guys imagine that or take this fucking bland moat-faced fucking cretan and let him beat everybody in the company and nobody gives a shit because he's still a bland moat-faced indie jackoff we get that's an option too i'm editorializing now instead of asking

a question, aren't I? I don't know what your question is, but with Garcia and with Uda, it's like Tony Kahn has two Eric Watts. And that's not to put Eric down, it's more about what Eric symbolized than what he really was in 1992. And that's the way it comes across. People are being forced down everyone's throat. Wheeler Yuta is all over these main event segments now. And no one reacts to him. No one reacts to him. All right, well, anyway. What did they say a long time ago? a full-grown version of superhuman. That's what he looks like. Yes, he looks like, you know,

the challenged fellow on the internet that jumps into barbed wire in his backyard. But speaking of mentally challenged individuals, one of the guys in the next segment would have been mentally challenged if I'd have been around because I would have taken a hammer to his fucking head. I have never seen,

even on an AEW television show, this level of just unprofessional from some dipshit jackoff that nobody's ever seen or heard of before must have been somebody's brother-in-law, somebody loaned him some tights. I can't believe he ever got booked on a wrestling show or made it through any kind of school acting the way he did. Did you see the two job guys they put Hobbs in with?

After they beat Hobbs on the pay-per-view... I was wondering what you were talking about. For no reason. Then they decide to rehabilitate him by letting him beat up two guys on this TV show, both of the jobbers looked horrible. Okay, I'm sorry. And they've got FTR and they've got Edge in town.

They ought to know two legitimate, decent-looking, athletic indie guys that could come and do a job on national television for who knows how much money. But instead, these two fucking illegitimate sons of goddamn homeless Bums under the overpass in Hendersonville. That's North Carolina in case you're not familiar with the Asheville area. One guy was being a comedian. Did you see it?

I did, and one guy was somewhat smaller even for AEW amongst the wrestlers. But the comedian was what got me. That's the one I said earlier in the show, if it had to been at OVW at a wrestling school television taping, and I'd seen him do that. that I would have come out from behind the announced desk and pulled him out of the ring myself. He was being a fucking comedian, overacting, and trying to draw attention to himself like a jackoff, phony bullshit, his shit looked horrible, and I want somebody that knows who this motherfucker is to play this for him. So he will know that if Jim Cornett ever saw him in a goddamn wrestling match,

I would hit the ring with my tennis racket and I dare you you fucking fat, slobby pissy-looking asshole do something about it I've never seen this level of unprofessionalism the boys should have been waiting for him in the back to kick the shit out of him

for acting that way on national television fucking asshole and this is what Hobbs has got to put up with a fucking star ready to happen but he's got to deal with these children and they're fucking Mark bullshit and they're playing of the parts of the wrestlers without actually being them

and this guy was playing oh I'm gonna act scared look I'm pointing at him how scared I am and oh I'm trepidacious and I'll chop him but oh I can't hurt him because you hit him like Aunt Clara on bewitched fucking floating deflated truck stop novelty condom Jesus

Anyway So that was that guy Yeah I mean You know obviously this was his big night His big nationwide TV debut And Max He went all out and did all of his schick And uh

I can't Again that's the kind of shit That guys used to be thrown out in the alley Behind the building with their bag on top of them for And never to be booked again Guys didn't want funny jobbers No. You want funny jobbers?

No. There's no call for funny jobbers doing bits. Speaking of funny jobers doing bits, so Big Bill and Brian Keith were in the back of the arena with Officer Barb Brady doing a promo and suddenly they noticed that FTR and Edge were standing eight feet away from them under hot television lights. They couldn't have seen that until they happened to look in that direction. And then they exchanged it.

exchanged it. Exchangeed the scripted banter that FTR and Edge had to stand there and listen to Big Bill's dead. This has killed Big Bill deadder than Kelsey's nuts. That he has to talk in that stilted manner, deliver this rotten material

be a flunky for Chris Jericho and his senior citizen crisis. His reaction to Edge is a lame, was making fun of his face, he reacted like a child. Well, yeah, and Edge, nobody did edge any favors by giving him any good material either here. And it was all to promote a six-man tag team match on Saturday that nobody's going to fucking watch anyway.

But that, uh, and then MJF, he's in a VTR from last Saturday. He's already gone back to the movie set or wherever. And he doesn't have to deal with these fucking Cretans. but he's doing a promo bloody after the match laughing about beating Adam Cole and now he wants his title back and he started talking about Moxley under normal circumstances you want everybody talking about your world champion and wanting to wrestle your world champion but when your world champion is a delusional

mentally afflicted fucking rehab patient that works like a goddamn cow on ice, you don't want to see your top stars get mixed up in that. So now MJF is talking, this will be the arrow in the back, the, well, that's Julia Hart's gimmick. This will be the stake in MJF's heart if he has to get involved with Moxley.

He will be no good to anybody else from that point on. And who would be the heel there? Well, let's see what happens. like Jeff Charritt, I guess a lot of guys on the show now, calling out that they want the title, it doesn't necessarily have to be on Moxley, someone else could be the champion. We can hope. I don't know who the hell that would be.

Exactly. So then the man of the hour, the Tawa Power, Dick the Boozer and the rest of the plumbing crew came out through the crowd to the ring to complete silence. when they turn their music off, you can hear a mouse pissed on cotton in the corner. Did you notice that? Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's been a growing problem. The fans are not, the A.W. Hardcore fans don't like the Moxley thing. And then the people who don't like A.W. Don't like the Moxley thing. And the fans don't react to it. This has been a complete swing and a miss

every step of the way. And they could sing Wild Thing. They knew the words. So it was somewhat, there was energy going on, But now this, whatever this is, they're just standing there staring at it. And then out comes FTR again, Romero, a year ago, two years ago, you heard their music, the people came up. There was a mild pop for FTR and a bigger pop when it was set from Asheville, North Carolina. Yeah, our town!

They've killed them even in their hometown. And then Edge came out and got a big pop. But he used to be a star on real television. And he's lived there quite a while also. But now they've got somebody, the people will still cheer because they recognized that they were a big deal in a wrestling business a while back in a big company.

And we know he can't be Edge. He has to be Adam Copley. because Edge is trademarked. Trademarked, it's been up a tree. But now his new name is Cope. Here's FTR and Cope. And to make sure we get the idea they called him Cope with every breath.

Excalver said it nonstop. Cope is not going to work as a name for Edge. They need to cope now and get over it. Adam Copeland will work. Get ready for cope versus dope. On AEW. Dynamite. Next Wednesday.

7 p.m. Central. Not even the Cope. Not that it's any better, but... Well, no, what is the Cope? What is Cope? At the Copa, Copa Cabana. He can get that music. Tony will buy it.

What is Cope other than what the AEW fans need to do with the reality of A.W? Cope with it. They're monkeying with him by giving him a stupid fucking name. Oh, no, I promise you this is his idea. I promise you all the way. Well, I promise you that somebody at a responsible company would have ex-nated, whether it was his idea or the Pope's idea.

Yeah. Even if it was the Pope's idea to cope, there'd be no hope for cope for the Pope. If FTR really is friends, they didn't say him. This is a bad idea. That's the worst name any wrestlers ever had ever. So the main event was Wheeler, useless, Claudio, and Dick the Boone. against FTR and cope. And right as the bell rang,

Tony Chivani plugged the death of Sweet Daddy Seiki. So he had a hand in training cage and cope and... And he... Ron Hutchinson. Ron Hutchinson, he was a real trailblazer for African-American. I guarantee you Tony Chivani had never fucking seen or heard of Sweet Daddy Seiki before 4 o'clock that afternoon. production meeting.

And Sweet Daddy Seiki was a big deal in Ontario, and I'm sure he did have some hand in helping Ron Hutchinson at his school and etc. But to a point is

somebody just gave Tony bullet points. Talk about Sweet Daddy Seiki. Who? Hey, help trained edge. And Ron Hutchinson, Tony, who? The guy the trained edge. So the reason for this six-man tag was that the baby faces stop the heels from pouring bleach down the mascot's throat.

So that old angle, that old chestnut. And I was expecting to write, well, you know, FTR's work is great and Edge knows what he's doing and poor Claudio knows what he's doing. It's just these other fucking two. And I swear to God, Edge got into a spot with Claudio and Edge couldn't figure out that Claudio was the one supposed to have the head. headlock and they started doing the fucking they did

something and then came together and Claudio was going to upper cut edge and then grab him in a headlock but as he went for the upper cut edge grabbed him in a headlock well then Claudio backed him in the ropes but he was like

he started to shoot him off and he was telling him I need to have the head and then they fucking flummoxed around and then Claudio grabbed the headlock and then edge shot him off for the spot. I'm like even these guys. It's contagious. And Schaefer posted edge. They went to the break. Moxley got on edge with his fake forearms and the punches.

They're just embarrassing. Cash Wheeler made a great comeback. He again... Not always. Always with him. He's always really good. In the ring, he may be the best... I said Shelton Benjamin was the best wrestler on the roster and he is because he's gotten over with no help. But Cash may be the best in-ring physical performer.

And you never get to see it practically. And he's been made completely meaningless on the card. And, you know, but it's good stuff. And at least they timed their break. They went to their last break at three minutes till 10. Because they came back on at 10 o'clock so they get that big overrun. And finally they built all. match to Edge and the plumber getting in

and they got in faced off with each other and traded forearms and then Edge went for the spear but Moxley rolled out so they fought to the back of the arena and then fought back to the same place they left and Moxley tagged out. They just had to go back into stands

for no fucking reason for 45 seconds and then Edge and Wheeler got in the ring and did shit. While you could see on camera the other four guys crouched on the floor in the respective corners just looking up watching, waiting for their cue.

Not selling. There wouldn't be anything to sell that long anyway, but just kneel, taking a knee and watching what was going on instead of being on the apron involved in the match. I know 15 guys that would have kicked the shit out of all of these guys for doing that stuff.

And now they call it that way. So they crouched Edge on the ring post and leveled FTR because they're ineffective and don't matter. And then Moxley put Edge on the desk and took forever. He was going for a pile driver, but he was milking it. And then you realize he was taking so long and milking it and time was standing still because Jay White had to come to hit the ring behind everybody's back and hit his finish on Wheeler.

and in Claudio and Schaefer chased Jay White to the entranceway and Edge backdrop Moxley on the announced desk and then the camera panned over or they pulled up the shot of Claudio and Marina Schaefer at the tunnel standing there staring at Jay White and they missed the shot of Edge Spear and Moxley through the railing and then all three baby faces suddenly jumped up into the ring and FTR hit their finish on Wheeler

and Edge Spirred him one, two, three. Because the hometown guys had to win and nobody's going to beat Moxley so everybody beats useless and Jay White was necessary in this confusing fucking mess because he has some issue going on with these other fuckers

and you can't expect any kind of coherence when you're trying to keep 18 11 at angles alive all at the same time. So there you go, and that was that show. What'd you think? I mean, there were moments the people there really seemed to get into it.

There were also some cold tags. I'm not a big edge fan, and I never really have been. And I think he was a main eventer in a period of time where there weren't a lot of main eventers still there because a lot of guys were starting to leave. And also, when the company was the main event, more than the actual wrestlers. and since he returned to WWE and then came to AEW, I just haven't enjoyed any of his stuff. And then you start thinking like,

well, they keep telling me he's a legend. But I don't really like anything he does. I hate his promos. Well, remember, I was more complimentary. When he was in the WWE, because the shit made sense came together, did get a little dramatic at points, but I was, I was pulling for him.

He's a heck of a guy. But, you know, after, especially after this last time when he jumped off the cage and hurt himself, he's been gone so long, he comes back and everything else is so dreary, there's nothing that he can get into that you really think he can lift up or do anything with. Yeah, see, I don't think there's much excitement about Coke versus Dope. I don't think a lot of people want to see him against Moxley. I don't think FTR is any excitement from any fans right now, because this was the best case scenario. hometown fans. They just gave $25,000 to the city and they still couldn't get a standing ovation.

I don't know. I think that all these guys have had a lot of damage and we blame Tony, but a lot of it was also self-induced. When you decide you're going to be cope, and he put up a picture on social media or someone did of him and his attorney by celebrating that they got the notice

that they trademarked cope. Oh, good guys. So this has been in the... planning's for a while. Oh, boy. And I think he's going to have to cope with the fact that no one likes his name, and he's going to have to cope with the fact that this is a bad idea. And Adam Copeland, actually, it's not as good as Edge because Edge was established,

but it's as good as you're going to get. They knew who Edge was, though, because of the modern idea of, you know, talking about people by their real names as well in publicity. And the fans have kind of figured out that Adam Copeland was, Edge is real name. I mean, the song says, you don't know me. Yeah, because you keep changing your fucking name.

Just pick one and stick with it. I get you can't use Edge. But we've already seen you as Adam on this show for a while. You broke your leg, you were Adam Copeland. You come back, you're just Cope. I don't know. Corner? What?

If he couldn't be Edge, could he be Corner? Yeah, you know, that's the thing. Could he be The Edge? Could he change his name legally to Edge Copeland? No, then the U2 guy would get on him, wouldn't he? Well, I mean, his two stings. It's two different forms of entertainment. Unless he puts out an album, then he'd be funny.

Well, I tell you know, they had a fight over that. Fucking Steve Borden finally put him in a Scorpion Deathlock, and Sting was like, oh, Roxanne, come help me out of this Scorpion Deathlock. You win. Another one in your vocal range. Yeah, you're very fortunate here today. Roxanne, you don't want to turn on your TV. AEW's on tonight.

You don't want to see this stuff, I'm telling you. Go out turn tricks. That's the problem. Take sperm from strangers. It'll be more fun than watching AEW. When you stop it? But that's... But that's the problem here.

You have FTR barely been on this show. They've been on collision, I guess, I assume. But the fans, this is their hometown crowd. This is the best it's going to get. Adam Copeland hasn't been on this show. He's now back. Moxley's been all over this show. and the fans don't want to see him anymore

and they don't react to him. And then Claudio, I guess I said, Claudio Marina and Wheeler, Wheeler, yeah, that is his name. Wheeler. Yeah.

Are just charisma vacuums. What happened to pack? He's in the group. He doesn't come to work anymore. Not that I'm complaining. It probably needs a visa renewal. It's that time of the year. I thought Moxley was the king of that country.

He should be able to wave his scepter and get pack in. Yeah, well, that's uh you know but then they get that mom and this is how many times it happened with pack where he's in the middle of stuff he disappears you don't even notice and then a few weeks later you're like hey where's pack and then a couple months later he just shows up and you're like oh my god it's pack he's returned from the abyss more times than anyone in AEW and that was dynamite we have landed once again folks hello people of earth we are here in the future is it do i have to chew gum when we time travel like you do to keep your ears from popping in the airplane? Because that was painful.

Am I popping my peas? I don't, I talk about being painful. I don't know what you're doing over there. I should get one of those screens. That big old screen they put in front of the microphone. Where you're popping of your peas and your all that daffy duck kind of stuff. That doesn't.

Oh, come on. I'm here, too. I don't want to hear this. You're there, too. I'm over here now. You certainly are. You've already got me leaning back away from the microphone. You say, I'm too boisterous. Well, we are here, ladies and gentlemen in the future. We dicked around and we still ain't got no ratings for that shit show that they started the year off with.

Apparently, how is it that January 1st being a holiday affected the rate? ratings because the business offices are closed every Wednesday night at 8 o'clock Eastern. You would think that since everybody was opened up on Thursday, things would just progress right along as normal, wouldn't you? Well, you would think, I mean, there's always, there's no real reason there should be any delay on the ratings, it's just data being pulled. All the company has to do is release the data. Well, yeah, so they need to get some more pullers. They need to get some yankers, because the pullers ain't, ain't doing their job. They need to get us a yank that data. What if they could

go to the American Dairy Association, get some cow milkers to start yankin' data. They would be yanking cranks all over the country. Well, as we were saying, we do not have dynamite ratings as of the present, as we are recording. However, there's

another rating story I've been waiting to see how it played out. AEW collision on December 21st. I got to find the overall number. It was like the highest overall number in years. But Now, bear in mind, this is the episode of the much maligned collision program

that immediately followed a college football bowl game that did 18 million viewers on TNT, TV, whatever. What is collision on these days? Is it TBS or is it over on TNT still? It's on TNT. Well, okay, well, they had 18 million people watching the basketball right before this program came on the air, and let's see how many of them stuck around.

Well, Jim, I have it right here, as reported by WrestleMania Collision, December 21st on TNT, 8 to 10 p.m. 635,000 viewers on average. It is the highest overall number and key demo number since July 29th, 2023. And by the way,

was when our friendly neighborhood CM Punk was running things over on that branch of the company. That's when they were doing some good grappling over there, had some big matches, felt like something. The summer of 23, Brian Adams ought to do an update. All right. Well, they say your old... It was the summer of 23.

Yeah, punk and FTR. They had some bouts with that other guy I forgot about. Anyway, well, Jim. It was a summer of 23. They had a big lead-in. A lot of people thought this was caused for celebration, it's not a big number, but they had a big lead-in. They had Clemson versus Texas College football.

It's a playoff game. But here's the quarterly numbers. 8 to 8.15 p.m. quarter one. Big Boom, AJ. And Big Justice live promo. Oh, damn it. Followed by Rikasier versus Will Osprey with Picture and Picture. One million, 260,000 viewers.

Holy shit. So Big Boom, AJ is now officially the ratings champion of all history of AW. 501,000 viewers in the key demo. So they only lost 16.7. million people from the football game. That ain't bad. We got a quarter to 2, 815, 8.30 p.m. Rickashay versus Osprey continued.

And an Adam Cole, MJF Live promo, and I actually saw this. I wish you had it so we could have talked about it. 81,000 viewers. Oh, wait, wait a minute. Is that a duck? You know what that is, don't you, Brian? That's the...

That's the truffle. pig. My friend Joni Aries out in Washington, Washington State that is. It's a toy for Harley. It's a plastic truffle pig.

Why are you playing with it? Well, because the truffles, you know, grow under the shit. You've got to get really deep to get them troubles. Since they've lost 459,000 viewers in 15 minutes, they're already underground.

They're under the shit. We need to... Get the Truffle Pig to root them out. Well, we got a quarter three, 830 to 845 p.m. The continuation of the Adam Cole, MJF, Undisputed Kingdom Live Angle, Chris Statlander's backstage promo, an ad break, Orange Cassidy's backstage promo, and the start of Penelope Ford versus Chris Statlander,

634,000 viewers. Ouch. Well, that's a 167,000 viewers, but it doesn't look so bad since they just lost 459,000. But that is a, they have lost half of the audience they started with in 45 minutes. Okay. Well, we go to quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m., AEW collision, once again, not dynamite. Penelope Ford versus Chris Statlander continued with picture and picture, and, full screen, ads, that is.

What other thing would there be? Either picture and picture or on full screen. They had both. The post match with Mercedes Monet, an ad break, the Learning Tree Big Boom, AJ, Big Justice live promo. Because Jericho found a way to latch onto them. Big Boom and Big Bill and Big Bill and Big Justice had a big promo and boom. 491,000 viewers

Oh boy howdy That's another hundred and forty three thousand That they're down in the first hour It makes a total of No I'm sorry 140,000 a quarter four makes a total of Seven I can't do this mass 780,000 give or take from the start Go ahead

And as we wrap up this hour let me just say 501 was the key demo for quarter one. It went from 501 to 380 to 284 to 219. There were people in the key demo in the first quarter than they did watching entirely by quarter four. Certainly they picked up some steam at the all-important top of the 9 o'clock hour or whatever time this was.

Well, usually it is a bounce. Maybe in this case because of all the big, there'll be a big bounce, but we'll find out 9 to 9.15 p.m. quarter 5, the big nine o'clock hour. The Learning Tree, Big Boom, AJ, Big Justice, Anthony Bowens live promo. What their Bowens?

Bowens was involved with Big Bill and Big Boom and Big Justice and Brian Keith, was he in there? Deanna Parazzo and Taya Valkery and Tony Storm's backstage angle. And the start of Shelton Benjamin versus Daniel Garcia with picture and picture ads. Okay, that's the one that I saw that I talked about. 493,000 viewers. Well, there you go.

The big bounce comes. Big bounce. See what I did there? They picked up 2,000. Well, we're going out of quarter 6, 915, 9.30 p.m. Shelton Benjamin versus Daniel Garcia continued. The post-match with the Hurt Syndicate and Swerve Strickland. An ad break.

And Mark Briscoe versus the Beast Mortos. 495,000 viewers. See, okay, now, what did I say earlier in the program? Shelton Benjamin is the only wrestler in AEW that's actually getting over. He's the only person that actually increased these numbers. Or at least held on to him. Is it though? 491 to 493 to 495.

Right. They're going in the right direction. No one else even held on to an audience. He actually has a build. No one else even held on to an audience. It was like lemmings going over the edge of a fucking cliff. Well, we go, Natick. They couldn't hold on.

Their hands were grease trying to hold on to these people. They were like sperm swimming up the birth canal. Well, let's go back to the cliff. Get me out of here. Quarter seven, 930 to 9.45 p.m. The continuation of Briscoe versus Mortos with picture and picture and full screen ads. the Julia Hart

promo the A Julia Hart promo The only one The Thunder Rosa Mariah Mae Live Angle And an ad break 469,000 viewers We've now dipped below 200 In the Key Demo 192

There you go again the only person To gain the audience Shelton Benjamin and the Hertz Syndicate And we go now at a quarter 8, 945 to 10 p.m. Claudio Castignoli versus Darby Allen with picture and picture ads, 459,000 viewers. And they held the 192.

So I can do this math because it's almost even. They lost 801,000 viewers from start to finish. That's got to be a record, right? never when they did you know we ought to go back and I don't expect you to do it right now because for heaven's saying you're good but you may not be that good but their first show back many moons

ago when they did 1.2 million people to say that was that well no that was the show that punk came back wasn't it they've done two big numbers I think the first show in a show where punk came back we ought to go back and reflect and see how much of their audience they held on those.

Because they ain't sticking around today. Even when they get a big number. If you know you have a big lead in, what do you do if you're Tony? All joking aside. Now, Big Boom, AJ and Big Justice are certainly not wrestling personalities, even though they've done some stuff recently. But they are- To a sports audience or a college basketball audience, they probably know them from, you know, getting the fucking rotation.

Tissory chicken at Costco or whatever their fucking M.O. is over there. If you're on TikTok, my kids know them from TikTok. So, I mean, everyone, they're known. But they go from them. Tickory, tickery talk, this chick. All right. Well, it goes from that to Osprey versus Rickettsay. Is that how you would have started? If you know you're going to have a big deal. Well, that's definitely a departure. They're showing they got something for everybody. you know that's the problem is that there's really nothing that AEW is doing right now that would be of interest to an audience I don't think that's watching college basketball, a sports-oriented audience or a young guy audience,

because they'd look at half the roster, well, I can whip these fucking guys. The other part, well, look at these stupid fucking people doing this bullshit. or what there's you know MJF could attract that kind of audience but he's been neutered and Osprey could be cool if he wasn't

just left to his own devices with trying to put all these other fucking indie weasels over like his friend Felcher and Okada and etc but do you really see anybody on this roster that anybody that's not an indie wrestling fan but that's a

casual WWE style fan that's used to professional looking guys at least or heaven forbid a real sports fan with a UFC or basketball football crossover like there's been there's been a crossover in the fan bases of football and wrestling a lot of times because there's been a crossover between football players to wrestlers in the past that doesn't often happen anymore there was a big cross over and a fan base of MMA and wrestling until wrestling got fucking silly and soft

and all girly but I think there's less crossover for AEW-style wrestling amongst any mainstream sports fan today, don't you think? Should they have started with the Hurt syndicate? It wouldn't have hurt. It should because then

there you've not only got guys coming out that look like stars and that they are probably know if they're going to know anybody on a show they'd know MVP Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin from the big time and it you could have

had Shelton do or Lashley do some of the shit they do where they just ragged doll and throw motherfuckers around and it could have been impressive for an audience that just finished the football game or the football game or whatever the fuck the game was

did I say basketball a minute well goddamn it's all played with a ball. Well, it's interesting, too. They began with Osprey versus Ricochet. So any casual fan, whatever that means, anyone who's not a usual viewer of AEW, who stayed and said,

let me see what this is, saw a wrestler getting pelted with toilet paper by the first thing. It's the first thing they see after Big Boom AJ and Big Justice. No Rizzler, apparently. And then, oh, Big Justice, he's bigger than Little Rickashay.

He throws a better punch than every single person on the AEW roster. I don't know if he can do anything else in the ring, but he threw a better punch than everyone they have. He's got more weight behind it. Well, we will have to wait and see if these dynamite ratings come in, Jim.

But that's a new red. That's, I don't know, percentage-wise, because didn't we figure out they lost about 66% two-thirds of their audience on, no, maybe not. But this is, well, they ended up a 450, just roughly. I'm not going to ask you to do any work.

They lost 60% of the audience here or more. That's 60 to 63, let's say, somebody will figure it out and tell me I was right. Eh. All right, well, we've gone. Can you stop with that? People aren't going to know exactly what it is every segment. They're going to think you're farting.

They're going to think you have a duck. No, it's the truffle pig. How would anyone know that? Because I just said it a few minutes ago. We were talking about the same shit. Well, let's get a few more topics. Speaking of the same shit, Jim, the Young Bucks recently did an interview. And a lot of the listeners have been sending us in the corny drive-thru at gmail.com,

as well as just sending it over to us however they can at this point. They get an interview with tunnel talk on social suplex. Is that a friend of theirs that's got his head up his own ass? I'm not sure, but it says tunnel talk on social suplex, whatever that may be. Oh, boy. Matt says he enjoys being uncomfortable and trying new thing. What? He enjoys being uncomfortable.

That's why he sleeps on broken glass every night, folks. Nick added, I think part of it is, after doing it for 20-plus years now, sometimes the normal gets boring. and you just want to think outside the box. Oh, cry. Matt continued, you want to entertain yourself, but to Nick's point, you go to a rock show

and you want to hear the songs that you know. Whenever they play the new stuff, everyone is just like, oh, come on, the new stuff, this sucks. Because you're going to ban your dad likes, kid. But as a performer, as a creative person, I always want to come up with something fresh. then why haven't they been having the same matches for the last fucking 15 years?

Here's a good example. When we did the EVPs thing, we were like, let's just have really boring matches. Let's stop doing all the super athletic moves that get big reactions. Oh, the super athletic move. You know, these guys are the next thing to fucking Alexander Carolyn. They're a goddamn experiment. They've been trained in scientific. enhanced since they were babies in the cradle to fucking be the supreme athletes.

But go ahead. It is hard because one of the things in general is that most of our stuff is pretty exciting. It's high spots. We did it. Nick added, I stopped doing dives for maybe eight months. I didn't do a tumble out to the floor for about eight months. And that was on purpose. I didn't do a tumble.

We literally wanted people to think, are these guys not athletic anymore? are they just boring wrestlers now? So let's stop there. There's a little more to quote here, but the idea, it's not a crazy idea, the idea that a baby face would change their style if they became a heel

as opposed to a heel who backs itself into a baby face. Correct. That concept isn't crazy. Let's be boring is a crazy concept. And by the way, you're always boring because it is the same shit all the time. And the fucking EVPs was just

the same old shit with rotten booking or even Rottener. Is Rottener a fucking verb anyway? It is now. What it is these guys are childish in more ways than one. They've always had a bad fucking attitude. Hence the name of their book

killing the business because everybody told them their shit would kill the business and well lookie here. but in Ring of Honor in 2010 or whatever and remember I've told the story we ended up with them before we wanted them to begin with

and when they were working in TNA and Sinclair had bought Ring of Honor and we were working on contracts with the talent they had called and talked to me and to delirious

and yes, for the Ring of Honor audience of the time, they were known, they were a lot younger, they were certainly a lot cheaper, I wasn't particularly big fans, but I knew the audience liked them, right? So we were trying to be nice, and we both, Delirious and I both said, well, you guys are under contract with T&A

through the end of the year, by the end of the year, I'm sure we work something out, we'd like to have you, you know, keep in touch with us, let us know what to, going on with you, that type of thing, right? We get a call two weeks later. They fucking quit and they let them out of their contracts to get rid of them

because they didn't want them down there either. They said, when can we start? What the fuck? And then we had to talk, it jocoff into talking Greg the office boy into flying these two numb nutses from fucking kookamonga or wherever they're from to the East Coast plus a hotel room

plus they'd been making 500 bucks a piece per show with the previous Ring of Honor, which again, at this point, whether you can say they'd ever draw any money or not, now is questionable, but they'd never drawn any money then. And they only wanted to fly them out for TV tapings where the budget was bigger

instead of putting them in Collinsville, Illinois. And then they got fucking pissed and started complaining because we weren't booking them. when we didn't fucking want them at that point to begin with. But I had a point to that story, Brad, oh, so they had a TV match one time. We're doing TV in Baltimore. And I was about, their gravy had gone all over my plate already, even back then. Right?

And Delirious had sat down with him and said, whoever they were working with, I can't remember. but we wanted a serious match. We put it in the main event slot. We didn't want goddamn cartwheels and grab ass. He sat down with him to be more of the generation to give advice and said, hey, have a good match with these guys and the fast-paced high spots and boom, boom, boom, but not so much of the gymnastics that you do, right? so we're sitting in a truck

and you know what they did they started twisting the arm holding a wrist lock standing flat footed and then tagging out and boom and coming in and hammer fist in the shoulder and they did that for 10 minutes that kind of thing and I'm looking at him I said how we're supposed to get this young fucking

hippie-dippy fucking high spot tag team and instead we get bruiser and fucking crush her I said they're working flat-footed like fucking Baker because they're pissed because we said just wrestle athletically don't do your goddamn gymnastic horse shit because we're trying to

run a serious operation here and you guys ain't the top tag team and instead of trying to prove that they could do it they instead chose to stink up 10 minutes of TV match which I then took back and edited out about three minutes to stink less before it aired

but they've always had bad attitudes unless they're allowed to do whatever they want and go home whatever they want and get their music and their friends' jobs and their wife can do the fucking merchandise or whatever rotten attitudes

how did that come up oh we were talking about their quotes from an interview with uh yeah so they so they've they think that they should have boring matches because they're heels and that way people were already booing them anyway because they're just sick of them.

But heels don't have matches like baby faces. That's true. But heels have exciting matches like heels have. And you work just as hard on being a heel and putting yourself in that position and swaying the audience's emotions and roughing up a guy that the fans are more likely to be sympathetic to because of the issue and his demeanor.

And that's the way that you perform the art of being a pro wrestling heel. But since these children develop their own selves on their fucking trampoline, they didn't get very deep in this. The only deep thing they've got is

the truffle pig looking for the ratings under the shit. They were asked about some of the fan comments on social media about their in-ring skills. Here's a quote from Nick. I see some of it. I stay off most of social media.

But one thing that really pissed me off was someone said, I thought the young bucks were washed. And I was thinking, oh, come on. You guys fell for the gimmick that we were doing. Oh, God. We didn't forget how to wrestle out of nowhere.

Come on, don't be dumb. Right. Is this the first time? in history that you've ever heard any professional wrestlers say, ha, ha, food, my match didn't stink because I can't wrestle. I was trying to make it stink. The other thing is, is this a rewriting of history in a sense? Yes.

Because the young bucks who were killing the ratings in every segment they were in, and people were talking about how they're dead on arrival right now. No one wants to see them as baby faces. No one wants to see them as heels. And they don't mean anything. They started getting a little backlash when it became obvious that even though FTR at the time was the much superior team and the people wanted to support them, the little weasels would never clearly put them over in a two out of three situation or without a bunch of bells and whistles

and oh yeah, oh, why I oughtas. That's when they first started getting a little backlash from even their faithful and then it went downhill from there. Remember when they disappeared off TV when they came out and the fans started chanting FTR them they were on the ramp and was like an aggressive like FTR! Yeah. And then we didn't see the Youngbucks for a while. Listen, this is Tony's project, but

they're doing their project. It's just Tony's funding it in the middle of Tony's project. They work with their referee. They've got their moron announcer on commentary. They've got all their friends there as stooges or giving them jobs. They protected Colt Cabana's job. He's done nothing since. I don't want to hear about,

oh, behind the scenes, he's a big player. Behind the scenes, the company's a fucking mess. So give me a break. Well, behind the scenes, what's he doing? Getting coffee? They don't have producers they ever listen to. There's no reason. How is he going to tell anybody

how to do anything to begin with? They turned heel and didn't know how to do it. And Tony Kahn didn't know how to do it. Jack Perry and the Young Bucks attack Tony Kahn. First of all, if the Jack Perry shit is in any way run by the bucks and they thought it was a good idea that Tony did, there's part of the problem. Why is he the scapegoat?

Exactly what is he the scapegoat of? I mean, none of it makes any sense. And the bucks didn't work. They were the kind of heels that Moxley is now. They don't cause people to want to see you get your ass kicked. They cause people to turn the channel. And it wasn't because they were boring. I don't remember seeing those complaints.

Do you? No. They're boring now. I used to like them, but now they're boring. I don't remember seeing that at all. I mean, I agree with them. The matches did stink. but that was no different than their previous matches

because they all stink because it's the same shit from these fucking kids that want to fucking play like they're tough guys and whether it's pie face or the bald one the one flips over and they ram the fucking guy in together and then the one back flips over the second rope and then moonsaults off the fucking apron they've been doing that since 2010

I've been having to look at that shit it's just it's their play wrestling that could only go so far when it was on an indie level and they went to different buildings a few times a year live and the 700 people or whatever there were just happy to see them but it doesn't play every week because normal people watching television across the country are saying what the fuck you expect me to believe this guy's a fucking wrestler and look at what they look like and look at how they talk and look at how they act and look at these fucking matches.

Well, here's the question I have. When they come back, and if the rumors are true and they come back with Kenny Omega at some point, to be the ones that take down Moxley and the Death Riders, the original EVP save AEW and save Tony Kahn,

even though they beat up Tony Kahn a year ago, but they saved the company. Well, time heals all wounds. From the Death Riders, is Road Warrior Buck gonna sell for Moxley? or is Moxley and Claudio are they going to be selling for the bucks after not selling for anyone?

I predict that old Maddie, oh Matthew he'll double fucking Northern Light's suplex Claudio and Moxley together on top of Marina Schaefer who will have been leveled moments before.

See, there's still EVPs. They should use that and fuck with Moxley. They come back like, you know, John, you think you're so big and bad? Guess what? I'm an EVP, my wife is now going to design your shirts. She's in charge of merch again. You're fucked, man.

There goes your income. Again, maybe one day in the future, the Death Riders versus the elite, would you put money on it, that it's going to happen? Well, I tell you, you can put money on most anything these days, but I think that might be a suckers bet. Maybe we just, we'll bet that if it happens, it's going to suck. That way we wouldn't be suckers. But you know what wouldn't suck is if you,

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I have a report from the recent edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. I'd get your thoughts on this. Oh, boy. Dave Meltzer wrote, so for WrestleMania, the reports of Rhodes

versus John Sina are accurate as things stand right now. The idea of Sina challenging one of the two champions in an attempt to break the so-called record of 16 reigns that he and Flair share that he and Flair share

has been that he and Flareshare you know they got more than their fair share has been a working idea for months at first it was the raw title given Rhodes versus Rock would be the other title and the people's title this isn't etched in stone

because whatever Rock wants to do he's likely going to be able to do he always puts that in doesn't he? I do know that... I don't think Rock didn't get to do last year what he wanted to do, did he? I do know that people are expecting him to appear on the show in some form as for wrestling on the show I even know people at the top who are expecting that

but it's not a sure thing and one would think that the Netflix show on the 6th will kill. Pick off the season and tip the hand. Rock could do another match, even though WWE title versus people title was what he wanted after mania. So a few things here.

What are your thoughts on the idea of Sina versus Cody at WrestleMania? And based on last year's WrestleMania, is it a little bit of a letdown not to get the Rock versus Cody? well honestly again this is something in reverse from last year they had teased something and then they tried to give them rock and cody and they said no but now they kind of might expect rock and cody if rock is going to be involved in some kind of way it should be with cody

i don't know about the w w title versus people's champion belt the people's team belt the people's title. It sounds so odd. The belt of Muhammad Ali crafted with his own hands. Yes, he was, a lot of people don't know. Before he started boxing at Joe Martin's gym here in Louisville when he was

12 years old, he was accomplished welder. He built that bicycle that the people stole from him. That's when he went to the police. What I'm trying to say is that unless Rock was going to drop the

people's title to Cody, then I don't like the title versus title because it, again, the Rock as a heel in that situation against Cody or against Roman Raines, I believe should be the one to do the job. But at the same time, does Cody want the people's title because it's not really the people's title, it's the Rock's bullshit heel people's title. You see what I'm saying. I don't think that's an important part. The Rock can play it up like if you beat me,

you'll be the people's champion, but I don't know that that's an important selling point to the public. See, the other thing is behind the scenes, the Rock could build it up like, I win this one and then you'll get the next one. But what if he gets a film role? What if something happens? Like the Rock's a little bit of a different case

than any other wrestler. There are outside things that could prevent, I right now they don't know if he's going to do WrestleMania it's January besides that it's age it's you know

the Rock probably has this big WrestleMania single match main event in him but you know what about next year or the year after that when he's 50 something and he's got a movie role or he's torn a fucking muscle in training or whatever

no you don't for the sake of one major appearance a year derail somebody that's producing the revenue on a regular basis that Cody is or even that Roman Raines is or as Seth Rollins is or as Seam Punk is right now in my mind because they're it's not I don't know what the percentage would be but back in the 80s 90s

when Vince was so wrapped up at WrestleMania WrestleMania that was months of his normal company's income in one night and that ain't the same configuration anymore they can make tens and hundreds of millions of dollars a week between the goddamn site fees

and the rights fees and the pay-per-views and the peacocks and so you don't cut the legs off of somebody that's there people will say Roman Rains is part-time Roman Rains is a goddamn workhorse next to the rock so the more that they can get those people there

the more that they need to be putting those people over, the people that are still a traction, even Brock. If Brock comes back, I think he needs to put Gunther over. But goddamn it, draw tens of millions of dollars. Do you hear me what I'm telling you? All right, well, that covers the Rock and Cody, the match that was teased last year, or the Rock Roman. What about Cody Rhodes and John Cena?

I love that if the Rock is not going to be involved. because again this is it's a story for Sina you know can I be 17 time champion even though the numbers are fudged on everybody's part but that's a story for Sina

and he's going to be a raving baby face but at the same time Cody would love to take on that challenge I believe of having a match with John Sina at WrestleMania where he's even the subtle heel like Dory Jr.

used to be with Jack Briscoe in Florida. But he still doesn't do anything that Cody Rhodes, the American Nightmare, the son of the plumber, son wouldn't do. He's not going to be kicking people into balls. He's not going to be trying to stab him in the face with a screwdriver. They'd have a tremendous match.

And, you know, it would be big box office. If the rock is not over here doing something else besides with Roman, If they get Rock and Roman, they could do Cody and Sina and fuck, they could put goddamn Hillbilly Jim in the opening match and sell out. I hope so. We need a retro figure of Hillbilly Jim.

There isn't one. Jim is a retro figure. He's an old, I love Hillbilly Jim. He is a heck of a guy, but he's an old-fashioned kind of guy even back then. With the exception of the opening match, which was Jim Powers versus the genius, where the microphone broke and we didn't have to hear the poetry. My first card, I could recreate the entire lineup in retro figures minus one match, which was Andre the Giant versus Hillbilly Jim,

replacing Big John Stud who walked out or quit or... I think that's what it was. I don't have Hillbilly Jim. Everyone else on that card I have a retro figure of. Well, I bet, you know, if you just write to Jim and Bowling Green, I bet you he could find something out in his garage to fix you up with. I thought he lived in Mudlick. Well, he, you know, he went up town when he started getting money.

All right, well, Jim, let's say. I get one last topic here on this catch-up edition of the drive-thru. Normal historical wrestling segments and fun. We'll bring back for the files and get the program next week. Yes, and plus, and bearing in mind that I'm going to have a winter ice storm here in the Metro Louisville area. The day before we're supposed to record the next program, hopefully I'll have power and we'll have a bunch of

holiday catch-ups and miscellaneous topics on the experience also. Well, Jim, our final topic here is something that a lot of people were sending in while we were off. Actually, it's two separate topics, but they both involve CM Punk. The first one, footage emerged, Madison Square Garden, a holiday show for the WWE

annual tradition. CM Punk in a towel and shower cap hits the ring to help the baby faces. I've seen split opinions on this. Some people think that's classic wrestling. This guy loves his wrestling. Others thought that's exactly the kind of cheesy stuff. We don't want to see. What are your thoughts?

You know, well, I think it also depends on your age group again, because now the younger people are used to seeing everything being played for laughs and being silly and being presented as silly that when they see something that in another generation people would have instantly understood and they've been jumping up and down screaming about cheering they don't get it this is not new i hate to bury our friend mr brooks but he he researched an old wrestling idea that's done been done I don't know how countless times, right? Are most of the fans aware of this, Brian,

or do you think I'm breaking new ground here already? Oh, you're definitely breaking new ground for some of the younger fans, but explain. Okay, well, back when this shit used to have to make sense, right? Back when the people were expected to believe what was going on was spontaneous and not all part of some grand scheme, there were certain things that you had to do to close loopholes. Let's say, for example, you know, now when they're in the big NBA-sized arenas for a TV taping

and the heels are beating up the baby face and you're expected to be upset about this and people, oh my God, if someone could save him and then here comes the baby face running down finally, well in a building that size you can believe it took somebody a minute or whatever to be made aware

that all your friend's in trouble right oh shit I got to name sometimes the WWE because they're trying to put a little more production pizzazz and this they'll show the guy running in from the back on the screen whatever but back in the old days

when a lot of wrestling television was taped in television studios let's say, for example, that Jerry Lawler's the big baby face in Memphis. And the second biggest baby face is Jimmy Valiant. Well, Jimmy Valiant wrestled in segment three, and he did his interview, and they come back two minutes later, and here's Jerry Lawler wrestling. Now the heels jump him, and they're kicking a shit out of him,

and you're expected to be worried about Jerry Lawler, but it would be, bury Jimmy Valiant, who the people know was just there. If he didn't come out to help Loller, people say, well, fuck you, you asshole. You could have helped him. So one of the ways they used to delay that inevitability of happening is the heels would get a minute on the fucking baby face. They'd have him bleeding or they'd have him in trouble or they'd do whatever they were going to do.

And then here would come the baby face in like slippers or shableness. shower thongs and goddamn under trunks maybe with a towel around him and shampooing his hair and fucking make a mad dash to get oh no and the heels would bail out and the people would instantly realize oh my god he would have been here earlier but he was in the shower and the classic example of this that i remember really like 1973 it was i think it was the because harry thornton was the announcer, I'm pretty sure. Might have been Sterling Brewer. Now that I think about it, it was Sterling Brewer,

which means that the tape was probably from Birmingham, Alabama, the southern end of the Goulous Territory, and Don Green had wrestled a match earlier in the show, and they had interviewed his daughter, who was probably like a 16-year-old teenage girl or whatever, but Don was a big baby face and they interviewed his daughter she was there either because it was her birthday

or maybe his father's day who knows what fucking you know reason they came up with and she just said something good about her father and they go to the break and they come back in the heels or out there with their man

I think it was the infernos and J.C. Dykes but I may be wrong I bet you Scott Teal would know anyway point is the fucking manager starts berating Don Green's daughter and telling her what a slime

baller father is and when she has had enough of it she reaches up and fucking shoves him or does whatever and he slapped her and when he slapped her oh geez the people went crazy

and she's selling it and goddamn the announcer gets in between and he's the heels are yelling and blah blah blah and with it like 30 seconds, here comes Don Green covered in fucking soap and under trunks only in barefoot and, you know, fucking mad and crazy and going after these fucking people.

And the place and the fans in the studio went crazy. But anyway, it's old as the hills in terms of, even in the Louisville Gardens or any other arena. You know, from years ago, the fans knew that there was, if there were 14 guys on the card seven of them were baby faces and seven of them were heels that means that

the early matched baby faces the people okay the preliminaries they've already left they got to go wherever they're going right and many times they had but those top baby faces that wanted to stay over in the main event they either needed to have an excuse for not coming out and helping or be too late

or whatever the case or it would bury them and the people knew they were in the fucking building. So there would be different reasons why that they left earlier or called away or on the phone

or whatever the fuck. What about the shower cap? Was the shower cap a bit much? The shower cap was a fucking, well again, it's a modern time. The shower cap looked fucking great. I've never seen that done. It's always been shampoo and the hair.

But I can't believe, you know, he is a he's got a very spelt figure does punk that he was able to find a towel that he could keep on while he got all the way in the ring and everything hopefully he had under trunks on underneath anyway but but yeah that's what he was

doing he was an homage they let the heels have time to get their heating it here comes fucking punk to save the day somebody had to go and get him and I see nothing wrong with that was again the shower cap but they had to see it it's Madison Square Garden they were full they had to see it back in a cheap

seats. And for the people saying, well, here's punk doing silly stuff now that he's in WWE, even if you think this is silly, this is silly. This is the same kind of stuff he was doing at the end of AEW shows. I mean, that's a modern wrestling thing that WW started and AEW immediately continued. Like as soon as the televised portion's over, now it's like after hours. Now we can have some fun. So it's not a new thing.

But on the topic of CM Punk and AEW, because it's been a topic forever. this past week a story broke out and I believe it all comes from quotes from Dave Meltzer A story broke out and it had all it could take It couldn't take anymore It had to get the fuck out of there The headline This is at ITR wrestling.com inside the ropes

Tony Kahn believes CM Punk all-in footage Key to WBD Media Rights deal What? What? That the airing of the footage with Jack Perry and CM Punk introduced by the Young Bucks in the midst of their heel turn weeks before they beat up Tony that that was the key

to getting this big WBD media rights deal. And how does he attribute that? How does he flesh that out? Here's a quote from Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio. I have discussed this with him. You have no idea how much and it's always the same thing that he believes that

that was the key to getting that deal so I will tell you I mean in every discussion there's not even a thought in his mind that he made a mistake there if it helped making the deal then he's right but I

you know certainly didn't think long term it was the right thing even though yes it did help make Jack Perry a star. What? I just didn't think it was a positive for the company in the big picture.

I guess the question that Dave doesn't really didn't the, but wait, but wait, but what I was talking about an explanation of I attribute it because the ratings skyrocketed or because we started selling out all the buildings or because the merchandise went through the roof.

Which of those things happened that I missed? Yeah, see, that's the crazy thing if you look at everything. The ratings went down to it. I mean, we've been talking about it for a while that if you look at everything since Jack Perry's Siam Punk, that's when the real nosedive happened. In terms of getting Jack Perry over as a star,

no, I don't think so. In terms of creating buzz and getting online discourse about AEW, none of it was positive. I bet it was all bad. It was all negative. So it can't be like, oh, WBD saw that everyone was talking about us and it had to get a deal. In that case, everyone's been talking about TNA for 25,

fucking years. So, I don't know. How could it be a positive? How could it get them the deal? I don't, there's no potential possibility that any programming executive said, oh, that's the greatest thing I ever saw that 30 seconds of footage with no audio of one of your fucking wrestler's front face lock any other one. So we'll give you a bunch more money. How do, how it, the, the ratings went down after. The houses went down after. The houses went down. after. People shit all over them on it. It deflated their regular fans because it was so bleh and nothing really. And at the same time, it alienated the punk fans because they're like this fucking clown, Jungle Jack, deserved it. It was all bad publicity. And Jack, and Jack Perry

he ain't a star. And again, let's talk about how it happened because it didn't happen in a vacuum. It wasn't just like, hey, it's time. Let's air the footage. Punk made some comments about Tony in that Ariel Hawani interview. And Tony had a hissy fit. It said, now's the time to release the footage. That's right. Oh, and by the way, it had proved that Tony Khan was said that it lied and said he was in fear of his life because a guy turned and yelled at him for four seconds, maybe. It made Jack Perry and Tony Khan look awful. And the Youngbucks look awful because they were presenting it like it was a big deal. It showcased a star in another company's show and just made him a bigger star.

So I think, I guess I'll ask you the question. Do you think Tony Khan maybe convinces himself of things and has a very difficult time acknowledging his faults as a booker and as a promoter? Because I don't remember him ever taking the blame for any of the things he actually did. No, I mean, but that's two different things now, though. No, he never says anything was other than great. And all the booking came together wonderfully, like in the tournament, in the gold block and the fucking cheese block or whatever.

But that's different than this wasn't something he really booked. Obviously, he didn't orchestrate it from the start. he just had an idea to put it on and he should have known better than that it wasn't even about his booking he didn't have to admit his booking sucks he could have just said I'm not gonna fucking go out

and look the people on television straight in the eye and tell them that the guy did something to make me fear for my life and then show footage of him not doing it and me looking like a pussy. And also, the guy's already gone and is in the bigger company and is drawing a fucking fortune. I don't need to show him really manhandling these fucking goofy kids on my roster that I still want to fucking use.

And it didn't make Perry look good because he got fucking front face locked for being a smart ass and he had no rebuttal for it. And what constitutes a star? It made him a star. How? Well, because, well, he got a van to ride around in. The neighborhood registered offender, you know, sold it to him secondhand. And maybe that's, I don't know how this, they think he's a star. He's a star in their eyes, in their world.

He just doesn't sell any tickets, draw any money, get anybody to watch, or particularly have great matches. He's a star, except for the fact that he's been off TV for a few months, and nobody's missed him. Well, I was about to say a minute ago and we got sidetracked, but do we know what happened to him? He lost the title to Daniel Garcia. He had to go away.

Well, I'd be in to go away and shame, too, if fucking Garcia beat me. Well, Jim, that is the drive-thru for today. Hold on, let's do this the right way. Well, I thought we'd never get here. You know, I'm a COVID-survivor, you know. Will you stop with that? I had COVID-2. Well, you didn't have, you're not as old as me.

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