Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 375

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews The Rock on NXT, and AEW Dynamite! Plus Jim answers YOUR questions about the Khans & the Jaguars, Vince McMahon & the SEC, if Jeff Hardy could have bee...n bigger than John Cena, Black Bart, 2024 South Korean wrestling awards and much more! Also, From The Files: Dave Meltzer! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again, friends! And you are our friends, and welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive through right here in the sunny year of 2025. I'm your host, the great Brian last. We're going to have fun today with lots of fun and fun wrestling talk with Mr. Fun himself, the leader of the cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim Cornett. And we'll have fun, fun, fun, until Brian plays that tune again. You know, that one sounded eerily similar to the one you tried to play last week. Well, that's the theme to the Great Brian last. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It's close. I'm like the Grateful Dead. I never play it the exact same way two times. It's always incredibly melodic and tuneful in a spooky kind of way deep inside your soul, but it comes right out and it always modifies so you never know exactly how to be settled. Does that make sense to you? You know what I mean? I will admit to you that grateful dead is a phrase that will be applied to you at some point,
Starting point is 00:01:11 as in we are grateful, that at least that song may be dead. But see, you're pressing my buttons already, Brian here, because you know I'm broadcasting again from a disaster zone. I'm in the middle of a natural disaster, a state of emergency, a fucking pickle here. again in Louisville, Kentucky. We're never going to see the north side of the
Starting point is 00:01:40 freezing mark again. And we reported on the last program where we were in the midst of the onset, the onslaught of the disaster that we got between Sunday and Monday. We got like 10 or 10 and a half inches total of snow
Starting point is 00:01:56 over various points and some sleet and freezing rain in on that to where at first it was crunchy. And now, by now, it's got the consistency of freezer burnt vanilla ice cream. Because even though it has not been above freezing in the past several days, the sun has hit it and glazed it over to where now, I'm not as big as I used to be.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm 185 pounds, though. I can stand on the top of 10 inches of snow in my yard in certain places, and I won't crunch through. Because now it's just become, It's a goddamn perma ice pack. And now it's snowing again. They're calling for two to five inches, and it's just started.
Starting point is 00:02:42 It's supposed to snow till midnight tonight. On top of all this other kids, the schools have been closed all week. They've had multiple wrecks on the various roads and interstates. I really don't have to fucking go anywhere, thank goodness. I can go everywhere I need to go. I've mentioned that every... business and good and service and outlet and whatever the fuck I need is within three miles of the castle.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And I got Black Beauty. Not only is it a 6,000 pound Ford Expedition, but he's got 300,000 miles on it and holes rusted into doors, and I don't give a shit what happens to it. And I just popped that thing into four-wheel drive, and down the, it went up and down the driveway with all that snow and ice, without slipping and sliding a bit, I only know where the driveway is because I know where my driveway is. Otherwise, you would have just had to guess for a couple hundred feet. But I've successfully navigated that and have been out exploring.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It's the other people that I feel bad for. People who have to go to work in this, that even though the schools are closed and certain things are closed or whatever, they're highly displeased. and I think I would turn to crime before I got on the public works department it was one of the people snowing and salting and snowing
Starting point is 00:04:09 scraping shoveling the show and scraping the ice and salting the shit because what the fuck that has got a miserable so further activity is happening we may be cut off from the outside world here soon so I'll be broadcasting trying to give you the the update on what's happening in Louisville as we go through this program. Well, of course, speaking of actual disasters,
Starting point is 00:04:36 we want to send our best out to everyone who listens from California. Obviously, they're going through a lot right now with multiple wildfires. All happening at the same time. Did I? Well, and they had wildfires in northern California last fall when my in-laws had been out here, and my mother-in-laws, we told a story, had to go to the hospital with an emergency, and Stacey's stepfather had to go back home because they were in a wildfire area.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Now that's Northern California. Now it's in Los Angeles. Do you have any idea? Being as you're the weather expert here, you always tell me what's going on with the weather. How did they have 100-mile-an-hour winds and it's not raining? What the, did they just in California and Southern California have 100-mile-in-hour winds pop-up?
Starting point is 00:05:30 or was this part of some freak thing that's led to this freak fucking thing? They have winds that have popped up and that regularly pop up. It's never been like this. You know, for years everyone talked about the big one. It's not an earthquake, it turns out. It's the wildfires and the winds sweeping it all over. They haven't had rain. There's no rain on the schedule.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So, I mean, you could certainly... There are plenty of places with wind with no rain. Well, everybody's got wind. God damn, that's like air. Wind is air. Okay, good. We are here in a tornado susceptible area, this corridor, Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, as we've talked about many times, severe weather, a tornado actually whipping through
Starting point is 00:06:20 the F zero or whatever, the lowest designation is a little under 100 mile an hour fucking wind force. and that comes with severe thunderstorms and fucking all kinds of cataclysmic lightning and shit going on I have never heard of a place at least in the United States where there was just the wind decided to blow 100 miles a fucking hour without some other weather condition going on I'm not trying to be facetious here so I'm wondering what the fuck caused that
Starting point is 00:06:55 that's some badass wind That's some badass wind. You want to fuck with that wind? The fires are still going. You know, I've learned the two things... Oh, go ahead. The two things you can't beat. Water and fire.
Starting point is 00:07:08 You know, you can prepare as best you can, but a wind can take something and just destroy everything. And, you know, I ignored the mandatory evacuation for Superstorm Sandy and stayed on Long Island, stayed in Long Beach, and it was insane. And it's nowhere near as bad as it is out there. And, again, there's only so much you can do. if these things happen, there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I mean, that's the scary thing. There's nothing that could stop it. And they've run out of water. Apparently they were opening up fire hydrants. There was no water in them. Which is crazy. I can't even imagine what that's like. But they have a drought, I guess, and they have no water.
Starting point is 00:07:44 So they can't even fight fire with water. I saw them bring in water from a pool in, like, pouches to try to put out spot fires. It's scary. And meanwhile, we've got here creeks and rivers. I've got a creek in my backyard, and if you melted the frozen water that we have, it would be hundreds of millions of gallons all across the region.
Starting point is 00:08:09 But we're not doing anything bad to the climate. And also, here's what I was going to say a second ago. This is like fucking Rawl was in Los Angeles four days ago. Had this started at all then? Was there a fire that was starting to spread, or this sprang up this quickly and this? and the drone shots of the Intuit Center didn't look like the wind was blowing 100 miles
Starting point is 00:08:34 like an hour. Do we know when this began? We don't. I mean, I don't. I mean, the other things, other fires are just popping up the other night, the Hollywood Hills all of a sudden went up in flames. Like, how did that happen? That was nowhere near any of these other fires. Do you think this originated with the fan reaction to Hogan?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Do you think it was Hogan? Do you think it was Hogan? Do you think it was Hogan? You booed me, I'll show you. No, I shouldn't even make a joke about it. at it. No, I, well, and I mean, he'll claim it, though. I started it. Well, no, it was Harley Race, came and sent a ring on fire for running to town. But seriously, we have a lot of listeners out there, and we hope everyone's safe, and we hope, uh, it's just, it's scary. It's really horrible. My heart goes out to everyone. And what you say, fire and... And water. And water. But what about earth and wind?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Earth and the wind. wind is part of it. What's earth? Earth, earthquakes, you mean? Earth, no, earth, wind, and fire, I'm thinking. So we got, they left water out. That's right. What did Maurice White have against water? He was a dry man. Possibly water offended him while he was a member of the Ramsey Lewis trio. But nevertheless, you got, the earth is the earthquakes, right? That's what California is noted for. That's why they set the goddamn movie there. Um, so you got earth, you got wind. That's the high winds, the tornadoes,
Starting point is 00:10:00 fire, self-explanatory, and water, we're all going to fucking submerge one day under the oceans because of the melting polar ice caps. So that is the four horsemen that the ancient prognosticators
Starting point is 00:10:16 predicted would bring an end to civilization. We figured it out. That was pretty fucking deep. Should we just end the show now? Well, no, I mean, this was our attempt to say something nice to the people going through it not to make this really depressing
Starting point is 00:10:31 and thoughtful. Well, or we could, well, you said you don't want to make a joke out of it. Goddamn, make up your mind. I'm trying to follow you here. This is your program. No, we love everybody in California. Everyone will be safe.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And also Nevada. How far might this spread? Has anyone said anything about Nevada? I don't know. Or Nevada, either one. Well, it's Nevada, but I mean, are you just saying that for any reason? Have you seen something on TV that it's spreading?
Starting point is 00:10:59 No, I'm saying that would be if it keeps blowing that direction. They're the next one's over, aren't they? I mean, how far is this going to go? I don't know if anyone's predicting that yet. You know what? I'm going to the basement right now. Fuck it. 2,000 miles.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But you know what? By the time it hit the fucking Ohio River, the fire would be put out by all this goddamn ice we're encased in. If you had the money to put in like a top of the line, almost like a luxury condo as a bunker, which apparently is what a lot of the billionaires do, deep underground, would you do it? Do you think it's worth it?
Starting point is 00:11:36 No, a luxury condo underground is going a bit far. I think it's cool when the guy next door to me built a new fucking house, right? He's got the room down under the ground where they can go and lock the door and they got all the shit just in case anything happens. Um, but that was new construction. I, you know, my, my father in 1952 when the plans were drawn up didn't, didn't anticipate that it would get this bad this quickly.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Uh, but I, I think a room underground would be cool just say, you know, you could do the Twilight Zone fucking episode and shit. But otherwise, I think, you know, I'm not going to stay down there forever. I'd rather be up on the goddamn hill. And that way you can kind of fucking survey. everything from a distance rather than under the ground where you don't really know what the fuck's going on.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Shit's breaking down and it's dangerous. You're not going to the top of the hill. Well, yes, I'm going to the tie. Haven't you ever played King of the Hill? What the fuck? Not during an earthquake, no. Well, there's not going to be a goddamn earthquake in Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Not during a tornado. I'm talking about anything else. Besides the tornadoes, which you can't do anything about, I've got the booby-trapped trees. I've got the hidden fucking moat. I've got the spike strip across the driveway. I've got the fucking turrets on the goddamn deck in the back.
Starting point is 00:13:06 You know, I'm, I just want to be able to see everything coming. All right. Well, go low, go high. Well, speaking of high, why don't you go to Cornets Collectibles at Jimcornet.com and say hi to the wonderful people there stocking the shelves. Tell us about the gym. Well, and that's another thing. Poor Huchkas' feather bottom don't have four-wheel drive. so he had to postpone pigging some things up from the Christmas New Year's week season,
Starting point is 00:13:34 but everything's been signed and it will be to him very soon, even if he has to get over here and I've got to take Black Beauty over and fucking meet him in the goddamn flat parking lot. But nevertheless, this week coming up on the experience, I got a big sale to announce another of Hotchkiss's innovations and all kinds of stuff for February, Valentine's. It's a month of love. And we're going to show the fine customers at Cornett's collectibles at Jim cornet.com. Some love. Love will be disseminated all over them.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's going to be in every package. All right. You may want to wait until the spring sale, ladies and gentlemen, at Jimcornet.com. Hey, wait a minute. You don't know what we're going to do in the spring. It's a time for fertilizer. Things are blooming. Well, you got me there. Ladies and gentlemen, you know what that means? It's time to move forward and move beyond and above.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Move up. Just rise above. When they go low, we'll go high. That's right. Well, Jim, we have a lot to talk about. And something breaking as we're recording, so we're going to kind of discover it together. Okay, because I don't know what's gone on all morning because I was out with Harley crunching through the side. I have to lift her over some of the crunchy spots so that she doesn't slip and fall.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Vince McMahon has tweeted, Oh, God damn it. 10.4 a.m. on January 10th. The case is closed. Today ends nearly three years of investigation by different governmental agencies. There has been a great deal of speculation about what exactly the government was investigating and what the outcome would be. As today's resolution shows, much of that speculation was misguided and misleading.
Starting point is 00:15:35 In the end, there was never anything more to this than minor accounting errors with regard to some personal payments that I made several years ago while I was the CEO of WWE. I'm thrilled that I can now put all this behind me. Now this is not about the Janelle Grant case. What I figured that, but here's the problem between the carefully crafted statements
Starting point is 00:16:05 that Vince McMahon's PR people and personal trainers and who knows who else has a hand in. Since I don't know what the resolution was, what is his spin on this? There was nothing ever more to this than minor errors. Did he get slapped on the wrist instead of
Starting point is 00:16:26 The electric chair and he's trying to dodge and evolve. What's going on here? And again, this is the Vince McMahon spin on the story. I have an article here from CNBC.com by Dan Mangin. Let me close up this pop-up. SEC charges former WWE boss Vince McMahon over two undisclosed settlements with two women.
Starting point is 00:16:53 The Securities and Exchange Commission charged former WWE boss Vince McMahon with failing to inform his pro wrestling company's board of settlement agreements totaling $10.5 million with two women on behalf of himself and WWE. McMahon has agreed to settle the administrative charges and agreed to pay a $400,000 civil penalty
Starting point is 00:17:20 and reimbursed the WWE $1.33 million. Jesus. The SEC said. So again, this is not, at least about the big Janelle Grant case. I don't know if that's one of the payments covered in this that he didn't disclose to the board. But Vince McMahon, reaching a deal with the SEC.
Starting point is 00:17:40 What are your thoughts? Well, but so we already had his running total a couple of years ago up to like $20 million that they found out. So these are not new cases. that were unreported. These are two of the cases that they had the stink about to begin with a couple of years ago, totaling
Starting point is 00:18:00 $10 million. We don't know which specific two of these people. Some of them are known, some of them aren't. But the point is, they felt that he did the wrong thing enough to, and I know it's not a lot of money for Vince McMahon, $2 million. He just got
Starting point is 00:18:17 $2 billion in cash from these people, but $2 million. dollars because you fucked up fella and he's like oh see this shows it was no big deal what the minor accounting errors for a 10 million dollars worth of payments and you got to you're fined in effect that's like a fine they're forcing him to pay blah blah blah blah blah that is a civil penalty yeah a couple million dollars it's not like fucking speedy and reckless driving, is it?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Well, let me go through a little bit of the article here. They charged Vince McMahon with violating federal securities laws by failing to inform his pro-wrestling companies board of the settlement agreements. McMahon, whose wife Linda has been nominated as Department of Education Secretary by President
Starting point is 00:19:11 elect Donald Trump. Of course she has. Agreed to settle the administrative charges. We'll pay $400,000. This is everything we just read. McMahon, there's a statement which we just read. A source familiar with the situation said the Department of Justice has ended its criminal probe of McMahon and will not charge him. So let's stop there because there's news.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Well, that may be disheartening to some, but... But everyone presumed when he got raided that it was about Janelle Grant, if it was just about this, and even if the payments were to Janelle Grant, this is not about that case. this is about the actual embezzlement of money or the misappropriation of company funds more than anything else appears. Well, do we know now? Because his best friend just tried to put a pedophile in charge of the Department of Justice. Are they just say, well, fuck it, there's no reason to waste our time two more weeks or whatever? So at this point, can that be trusted?
Starting point is 00:20:15 The Manhattan U.S. Attorney's Office. Wouldn't you know who won the pony? Vince will not be investigated by the government 10 days before his fucking criminal friend takes over the government A spokesman for the Manhattan U.S. Attorney's Office declined the comment I'm sure he did McMahon's lawyer declined the comment
Starting point is 00:20:35 That's a new one The SEC Maybe the lawyers figure, fuck I'm just going to stay out of this It looks like we're in the clear The SEC said that McMahon's failure to tell WWE's board legal department accountants or auditor about the settlements caused the company to make material misstatements in its 2018 and 2021 financial statements.
Starting point is 00:20:58 See, that's what it is. It's all about the fact that they filed false numbers because Vince wasn't... I guess Vince didn't account for any of the money he decided to take his petty cash. Good Lord. Here's a quote. Company executives cannot enter into material agreements on behalf of the company they serve
Starting point is 00:21:14 and withhold that information from the company's control functions and auditor, said Thomas Smith, Jr., from the SEC's New York office. And it appears that's all the big news here. Well, there you go. Oh, here we go. The SEC said that because the agreements with the women were not recorded, WWE overstated its net income for 2018 by about 8%. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And it's 2021 net income by 1.7% approximately. 8%. Wow, that's a lot higher than I would have thought. Net income, but that's $10 million. So that would be 8% their net income after everything, $100 million. That ain't, hey, am I doing the math wrong? No, I mean, you, uh... See, you got to look at how that's freeze. McMahon received incentive-based compensation.
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's not the gross beforehand. It's the fucking net after the splewge. McMahon received incentive-based compensation and realized profits from the sale of WWE common stock during the 12-month period following the filing of financial statements that WWE subsequently restated due to the facts described herein. The SEC said, McMahon has not fully reimbursed WWE or its successor in interest for these profits and incentive-based compensation and therefore violated Section 304 of some act here.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So he wouldn't give him the money back that they gave him before they knew that he was going to cost him all this shit. So Vince McMahon's claiming victory that this, I mean, he's saying it's not what everyone thought it was. I guess just that it was, the federal, the government investigation wasn't what, everyone thought that was going to be sex trafficking, like Puffy, because of everything that was alleged in the Janelle Grant case. If it had nothing to do with sex trafficking
Starting point is 00:23:21 and it was all about cooking the books, that changes every, I mean, it doesn't change anything actually, but it certainly makes you rethink a lot of things. It certainly makes you wonder, you know, now he has all that money. Now he's got a lot more time on his hands
Starting point is 00:23:36 and he's not worried about the government. And that's a, you know, again, they just scrubbed him from everything they did historical on Raw and Saturday night's main event and they've scrubbed him. Well, but you know what? That's for the best anyway, because the fans still are like,
Starting point is 00:23:56 what the fan, especially that the show keeps getting better now that he's gone, and he was a creepy old man in his old age, and he went mental for whatever reason. But as far as to Vince, that, paying women $10 million because, you know, the various things that I did, there's no big, There's $10 million in accounting errors. I'll pay the couple million dollars in five. That's Vince. It's like he doesn't even have any kind of sense of proportion anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:30 So to him, it's a million. Yeah, it was no big deal. Did anybody else would be shitting all over themselves? Yeah, Vince, how many millions did you give that woman who says you sexually harassed her? And that was an accounting error. Yeah. That's a new way to look at it. but you know it's it's trivial to him and you know again why would anybody waste their time
Starting point is 00:24:55 nobody inside the click the real click now is going to be going to jail for the next four years so there's no reason to waste you fucking time well that's the Vince McMahon news we will uh I'm assuming at some point while we're recording here a statement from Janelle Grant's attorney but we'll get to that when we get to that Jim on the topic of WW and WWE happenings, NXT this past week, there was, I guess, one or two segments that everyone was talking about for one reason or another.
Starting point is 00:25:29 The Rock, who popped a number, the rating for this was tremendous. The Rock appeared on NXT, where his daughter's the general manager, got to, I guess, drink one of his waters that he owns, free advertising on TV. And whatever he says, Is that water?
Starting point is 00:25:46 I don't know what, who knows what's in that bottle. But he's in a couple of segments on a big show where they have title changes and it's in L.A. Again, before everything went crazy in L.A. What did you think of the Rock on NXT? I, well, there were two appearances.
Starting point is 00:26:05 One was a pre-tape or backstage segment, whatever they call them these days. And the other one was the live in the race. So, well, let's, the backstage first. And you were able? is his daughter. And for whatever reason that has never been...
Starting point is 00:26:23 Was it ever explained in any way, even if it was a weak explanation on NXT television, why that this young girl who's not particularly a great television performer and not the most stunning creature we've seen since Greta Garbo
Starting point is 00:26:44 she has no credentials as a business person or a goddamn wrestling legend or a active competitor of any note to be the general manager was it explained on NXT television how this role was this important responsibility
Starting point is 00:27:06 that she shares with the other brands of Adam Pierce and Nick Aldous and Ava Raina on our parade. Did they ever tell us why? I remember she was on NXT. I think she was either a wrestler or a scorting wrestler.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like she was part of like a group of guys and girls. Yes. Well, it would have to be pretty much one or the other. But she, I said wrestler of notes. I have the Wikipedia bio. Well, there you go. Let's go straight to the gospel according to Google. On October 25th, 2022, on an episode of NXT,
Starting point is 00:27:43 Ava made her television appearance, her first, revealing herself to be a member of Joe Gacy's villainous faction, Schism! We missed this era of NXT, I guess. Oh, Christ. She debuted under the ring name Ava Rain, but it was later shortened to Ava on February 14th, 2020, when they discovered as a porn star probably named Ava Rain,
Starting point is 00:28:08 like every name in NXT. I think, you know, either Ava Gabor or, you know, Ava, the only other one I could, Ava Gardner. Ava made her in-ring debut on April 1st at Stand and Deliver with Schism, losing the Chase University. Schism would slowly begin to this band in September 2020, starting with the... It began to fall apart much like a leprosy victim losing chunks as he motivates down the path. starting with the expiration of the Diyadh's contracts on September 14th, and culminating in a backstage segment in October,
Starting point is 00:28:50 where Gacy declared that schism is dead. After schism, she became the on-screen assistant of senior vice president of talent development creative, Sean Michaels. Oh, good Lord. On January 23rd, she was promoted to become the new general manager of NXT, becoming the youngest general manager in NXT, Ava made her main roster debut appearance three days later. Coincidentally, this is all January 22, 24.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That's right when the Rock fucking came back. Right when the money changed hands and the board of director's seat was filled and the plans for WrestleMania were being implemented. If you are a relative of the Rock and you come out of high school, or maybe some college, whatever it may be, and you don't have like a direction,
Starting point is 00:29:35 you don't know where to go or what to do, he'll just get you a job with W. or you can carry his piss, one or the other. Oh, but anyway, all right, so that's, obviously, it was a long road to the top if she wants to rock and roll, but she got to be the general manager, and she was talking to Ethan Page, and he was being somewhat contrary with her and not going to accept her authoritai, when suddenly the rock
Starting point is 00:30:08 walked in behind Ethan Page wearing Roy Orbison's glasses and for a minute I almost thought it was a seal peering through a block of ice because they were so
Starting point is 00:30:22 they were large even for a man with a large man Charles Nelson Johnson Oh we love you Charles So the Rock told Ethan Page, like I told all of the NXT talent, anything you need, come to me. Like he's the benevolent, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:47 head of the monastery going around distributing blessings. But anything you need, come to me, I'll help you out. But on this show, she's the final boss. So you and her need to be cool. And Ethan's the, oh, Oh, we're cool. And he actually, okay, and as Ethan Page is walking by,
Starting point is 00:31:13 the Rock says, get your sweet ass on out of here and whacked him on the butt. Like he was dealing with a kid from romper room. And, okay, that was, let's discuss the pre-tape or the backstage or whatever. The Rock's been doing backstage segments going back to his,
Starting point is 00:31:38 you know, the height of his career. He's kind of known for doing these and having a little bit of comedy. I don't know about the slapping. I don't know what. I guess you can call that sexual harassment in a way. I don't know about the executive slapping the other guy in the ass and saying, get that sweet ass out of here.
Starting point is 00:31:52 While he's wearing his Charles Nelson Riley glasses. I don't know. I don't know how that works. HR made a better answer. We'll know something's up for sure if they change Ethan Page's name next week to Paul Lind. They had to do something with Ava and the Rock. together to justify any of this with her being there.
Starting point is 00:32:12 They had to do something with them together. It made sense. I don't know about dressing down. Again, you don't want a Stephanie McMahon on the brand, you know, where she could dress down the wrestlers and shit. Yeah, that's a thing. He's their top heel, right, at this point? Or if not being presented as the top heel,
Starting point is 00:32:32 the one that most people talk about. Oh, but he got whacked on the ass. Get your sweet ass on out of here. So that, okay, you know, it's a pre-tape, but later on tonight, here on NXT, you're going to get to see The Rock. He's going to come out. They were in Los Angeles at, what was it, the Shrine Auditorium, right? Yeah, look great. And again, you know, this is a place where they've had award shows and, you know, all kinds of television broadcasts.
Starting point is 00:33:07 and that's what I was thinking they might be able to make the Hammerstein look a little snazier in AEW than what they did. But this was, Ken was very nice. But anyway, finally, it's the last segment. We're 10 minutes before we're off the air, and as we know, the CW can't, you can't just call and ask for more time.
Starting point is 00:33:36 They've got commitments with local, stations, which as a matter of fact, you know, I think it's New York that didn't see the last minute of this. You know that story, right? I thought we did get this. No, I don't know that. Well, maybe it's not, is it, there's a big market. Is it New York? I mean, L.A. I think it's L.A. because of the fires and everything. They would be able to. No, no, no. I mean, on a regular basis, since they've switched over to there's one big market station that has a commitment to one minute before 11 go into their local news or whatever. And they never see the last minute anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Now, somebody else can smart me up to who at it. Channel 11 news is a different kind of news. They got Greg Mocker running around the subways and stuff. It's a different kind of station. I thought you watched the stations out of Scarsdale. There are no stations out of Scarsdale. What about Teterboro? There are no stations out of Teterboro.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Well, see, that's the problem. But anyway, so it's 10 minutes till, and here, boom, the rock music and the lightning and the big screen and the big pop and he's over and he shows us the goose bumps. Do you think that's like, is that the same kind of thing as the kid in second grade that could blow milk out of his nose any time he wanted to that he can just do that? Yeah, it's every time he comes out there. Look, I have goosebumps on my arm. Yeah, stop smacking your arm, asshole. Maybe start with that. Well, we got to send him to a fucking AEW show.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And if he can get goosebumps there, he can get goosebumps anywhere. By the way, how many guys, I mean, that probably happens to a lot of guys. You come out there, your music's playing, the pyro going. He's the only one who gets the show. Look, I'm special because it means more to me than the other guy. What does that exactly connotate? The idea that he's, he still means something to me, even though I feel I'm above all of you. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:35:28 He is still moved by the, by the common people. He's still moved. by the reaction of the commoners as he comes out to bless them with his magnifocity. You know, they've magnified the magnifocity quite on this program. I mean, it's just through the root.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And again, he's over the chance, the poses, the cheers, the close-ups, and the plenty of milking. He can just turn the shoulder and they know that he's milking to do something. And the Rocky chant and more goose bumps and some
Starting point is 00:36:09 humbleness and milking that got him the NXT chance. But at the same time, I'm thinking my God, they're burning daylight. And it was five minutes and 15 seconds from the time that his music
Starting point is 00:36:27 first started until he opened his mouth to actually speak and spoke, and it was is that a pop culture thing because didn't he do that the other day or didn't somebody else do that the other day? They scream something.
Starting point is 00:36:45 What did he do there? Brian, you're young. It's a reference to something that I don't get. It sounds like someone disemboweling a cat without anesthesia. Yeah, I don't have any of the answers for you, unfortunately. I've got some audio recordings that were disturbing, say the least.
Starting point is 00:37:06 So he started the promo and then he stopped so they could chant more. And then he got bleeped for in a short period of time, I'm going on my notes now because it's going to happen some more, but in a very short period of time, he got bleeped for goddamn and fuck. And this is going to
Starting point is 00:37:29 your local stations during prime time they're going into, I know that the news anchor here, if they were going into his program, he wouldn't enjoy following fuck, but whatever's happening on the local station, the point is they're under FCC rules. It's broadcast. He knows you can't,
Starting point is 00:37:53 it's not even like USA or like cable in general. You really can't do that here. And he's doing it. it anyway. Because he knows they can they'll most likely they'll bleep him but at the same time if they're not real good
Starting point is 00:38:14 because a lot of this was very ad lib to say the least so it's not like they were reading a script waiting for the right minute you've got to have nimble fingers on that seven second delay. Him coming out there in cursing and I'm not against the idea of cursing but you have to know where you are. The venue. And he is an executive
Starting point is 00:38:32 he's on the fucking board. Him coming out there in doing that is the same as him showing up to a film set 10 hours late. It's creating problems and more work for the people who are doing the work. And that's why people there are going to start to have a lot of resentment towards them. Just watch. But hold on. That is, it's, that is an apt comparison to the relationship with the company and, but with the network, the CW Network may have made an investment in NXT, but their fortunes, their living and dying, rising and falling
Starting point is 00:39:09 does not depend on this one program. And if they've just got this deal and do you want to piss them off? Because it wasn't just that, as we'll get into, he'd doing it a bunch more. But besides that, he's a movie star, he's a wrestling, star and everybody thought it was a good idea if he just went out there with absolutely
Starting point is 00:39:35 nothing to fucking say it we didn't even discuss that yet when I told you about this I said you know because I have I think the rock as a person is full of shit I think the rock as a performer is amazing when he's on but for me especially in the last half of the Vince McMahon years there was a lameness there was a Lack of creativity. There was a coasting. And this was more than that. But did, oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:40:06 This was not coasting. This was fucking twisting in the wind. This was proof that Poverati didn't always hit the fucking note right. This was proof that Michael Jordan could miss a dunk. This was one of the greatest orators, orators, orators, orators. in the entire history of the business going out there and not
Starting point is 00:40:35 have anything a goddamn ready to say. I don't know how it's to, and potentially having been sipping on his tequila that he's got a financial interest in or either that or he just didn't give a shit. Again, the language
Starting point is 00:40:52 he did some things about all last year. everybody said, why are you so mean to Cody? And a year later, I wanted to give props to Cody and they, all the fans on the internet was like, fuck now we're not getting this fucking match you yanked our cranks about for the past year. They said, don't be so nice to Cody. And he got bleeped again.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And he said, oh, the final boss is thinking 20 steps ahead, so enjoy the ride the rock is taking you on. And then he took us on a ride. all right he didn't have anything else to fucking say it was another god damn he got he got he got well he'd already got the earlier he got a time cue that by the time that he had finished his massive entrance he had six minutes and 33 seconds left and then by the time he's done that business he's all we got two minutes we'll fuck that we'll go all night and they But again, I wrote, has he gotten lost?
Starting point is 00:41:59 Is he tipsy? Does he not give a shit about the new deal with his network? And he actually said, I asked to go to NXT a couple of weeks ago, but I didn't really know what to say. So I asked Ava, and Ava told him, you're going to feel the crowd. Well, he felt him up. He yanked their dicks and gave them nothing. he just said thank you for coming to the nxte show
Starting point is 00:42:33 the raw show the big raw show with all the stars that's the one you had to be at but this is the show you wanted to be at and it but hey the guys and girls in nxte could be wrestlingania main eventers too but anyway it's easy to go to the place with all the stars, it's not easy to go. I swear he said this. It's easy to go to the place with all the stars.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It's not easy to go to. And the crowd started groaning. Yeah, because they think the NXT people were stars. Yeah. And that's what he said. God damn right, they got stars here. But he was going to say, then come to the place with no stars.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I don't know what that was the only. It's the only thing he could have been saying there. It was the only thing he could have been setting up. Yeah. And he said, Flex Kavana was a fucked up name. And he said fucked up. And then, I, so, and I'm sure they were giving him the, we've got to go. We cannot stay behind the camera.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And he said, my job will take me away many times, but I will always come back home to you. if you smell the bullshit that's going on here and a million people were watching that because of him and there was no even if he didn't want to have a verbal exchange it alive in the ring with any of the NXT guys couldn't they have arranged some type of interaction
Starting point is 00:44:23 with some WD talent to pay off the idea and involve an NXT guy peripherally or just an interview in some way putting the fucking product over of the
Starting point is 00:44:38 television show he's on or in some way being coherent and not trying to cuss every way when was he known for just saying fuck all the time is he do a
Starting point is 00:44:54 bunch of fuck movies or movies where you say fuck a lot? Like is he working for Tarantino? Why is that, is him and potty mouth, why is that known with the rock now that he's got to give it to him? Because I think he's high off his ass on his ego when it comes to WWE. It's the one thing where he still can't be touched. You know, people criticize the movies, whether it's critically or some of the ones that haven't performed, people criticize these stories you hear about them.
Starting point is 00:45:21 but WWE I mean what else would you call both nights again he was a heel he left as a heel and he came back and immediately hugged Cody that's what I said on what the fay it was my show god damn it that we did a couple of days ago
Starting point is 00:45:37 that what now we're not getting rock at WrestleMania we're not getting rockin' Cody we're not getting rock and Roman he's hugged him and kissed him and said I love you so I said what I don't understand and NXT did 957000 thousand viewers.
Starting point is 00:45:52 That's the highest overall number since 2019. That's a major number. And if the rock being there got people in the door, that's amazing. Because all they did was trying to make people all night. Julia Obafemi, Stephanie Vakor, all they did all night was trying to make people. But if you tuned in for the rock and then he gave you nothing, are you ever going to tune in again if it's tease that the Rock's going to be on NXT? Unless there's a direct thing that you're told it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:46:23 You start training people to dismiss. Well, pump the brakes. Because are you ever going to tune in again? Yeah, probably, because it's still something. But they got a few hundred thousand more people than they usually get. That means they tune in for something. But if they said, well, the rock's going to be, well, let's see if he's got something to say for himself this time. They might give him a second chance.
Starting point is 00:46:47 They might not. It's not like a cut and dried the curtain has fallen. but it doesn't help and it's not productive. But also, again, the Rock is one of the greatest performers in the history of the business, so I'm thinking from, I'm trying to think from his perspective. If that was me, why am I out there? And I don't know what the fuck I'm going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And I'm cussing. That's the difference. Well, I know. You've shown that you could think on the fly. The Rock is coming up with notes on his hands. God damn. Hey, there's people in speech therapy class could have fucking. muddled through this better than
Starting point is 00:47:22 I'm not trying to get put over here I'm saying if I was putting myself in that position as a business before I went out there I would want to as a professional I need one or two things to talk about what is a why am I
Starting point is 00:47:38 doing this appearance what is the point we're trying to make with my presence here tonight what are we promoting what's further down the road give me some direction and we'll put something to that is me but accomplishes this
Starting point is 00:47:54 fucking purpose. That's just as a... I can't believe that the rock being a movie star, the rock being a wrestling star and the rock just if he was being professional would just go out there and feel the crowd
Starting point is 00:48:10 and be all over the fucking place and not have dick to fucking really say that meant anything in a public appearance on television in front of a million people on broadcast and however many watch it on the YouTube's. That's what I'm trying to figure out why that happened.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And did, were they back there and did they know? He don't know what the fuck he's going to say. Well, we need him to say this, this, and this. If I was producing a television program and I knew the rock, if I had the rock coming to OVW, like I did Steve Austin or The Undertaker or McPoly or blah, blah, blah, I always, in a very professional friendly way suggested to them,
Starting point is 00:48:54 hey, can we talk about this and do this with this guy and blah, blah, blah, and how you want to do it? But there was a reason for them to be there. So this is just flabbergasting to me on all fucking fronts. I'll get off the soapbox now. If you were a fan of the rock and you tuned in to see the rock, would you be disappointed? Well, yes, it is a disappointment.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I don't know that it's going to cause people to start putting together fucking threatening letters in a mail from magazine article words cut and paste it. I don't think it will, but I think if the Rock continues has appearances like this where nothing happens and nothing is said and you're teased that he's here, he's here, and then nothing happens? Yes. Yes, I admit it, counsel. Yes, it was disappointing and will lead to further disappointment if they're not
Starting point is 00:49:43 appointing someone to point him in the right fucking direction. How come he hasn't gotten any jobs for any of Rocky Johnson's other ones? kids. He has like dozens of brothers and sisters all over the place. Not one of them has got a job with WWE. There is not dozen. What was there seven confirmed? It's at least half dozen. Something around. Well, there's, there was some dozen in the phrasing, but. So that was NXT again, a big night. And if you were going to do a big night, the rock obviously brought an audience. So a lot of people got to see whatever they were trying to do there. But I think it's two nights in a row, two appearances in a row.
Starting point is 00:50:19 kind of disappointment for what you're getting, if you're getting anything. The first night was disappointing but not unprofessional. Because we said, well, why did he hug these people? Why is this all of them? You know, they parted Rock and Cody parted like fucking, you know, Wyatt Earp and his nemesis in the Old West, I'll see you again one day. And then they do and they hug and kiss and fucking drink tequila and do whatever the fuck. So that was a disappointment, but what Rock said and or did on camera didn't make you think he'd been drinking or was just spaced out and didn't give a shit about whether he was any good
Starting point is 00:51:01 or not. So the second night was a whole different kettle of fish in that regard. This is two years in a row where the Rock hug Cody and Cody had that look on his face like this fucking guy. Yeah, what the fuck. This fucking guy. Two Januarys in a row. This is how happened. It's like when Marlon Brando would hug him and kiss him on the cheek. Well, you know, Jim, perhaps the issue. What is the issue, Brian? Perhaps the issue is the Rock's instincts at this moment.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And perhaps if he quit it with the tequila and he moved to something like CBD, perhaps he would be in a better frame of mind. Perhaps all the injuries he has from lifting way too much weight. with way too much synthetic muscle. Perhaps all those injuries, the pain and the soreness, the aches and pains, no sores, perhaps that would start to diminish. Perhaps he'd be in a better frame of mind,
Starting point is 00:52:00 be a healthy weight, and deliver meaningful promos, if only he switched up to CB distillery. Well, you could just wind that description up any time, any place, Brian, and we've got it down. We know that he doesn't have sore, currently, although we don't know what might happen in the future. But folks, if you're sore, and we're not talking about pissed off, we're just talking about sore, sore achy, from exercise
Starting point is 00:52:29 or the burden of life today, or if you can't sleep because your mind is complicated with the burdens of life today, or you feel stressed during the day because of the burdens of living life in the world today, then that's what you need to do. You need to go to CB Distillery. We don't know what the Rock's issue is. He's farting through silk. He's got more money than Carter's got little liver pills. And he's a big time movie star. And he obviously has a good sense of his own self-importance. So we need to worry about the little people out there, the ones that he sprays his piss bottle on. And you, you folks, and others. folks and we folks we are the little people that get pissed on that's why we need the
Starting point is 00:53:20 CBD that's what he calls the people he pisses on the we people the we people well we the people want the CBD and you can trust CB distillery for your their commitment to quality into your satisfaction they have over 2 million satisfied customers and they offer a 100% money-back guarantee now try to buy CBD behind a dumpster over on Main Street and see if it comes with a money back guarantee, I think not. They have plant-based
Starting point is 00:53:52 solutions to help with stress, mood, and focus, and pain after exercise and plant-based solutions. Brian, they're going back to the olden days. Back in the olden days, the Native Americans who roamed the planes knew that if you grabbed some marigolds and some dandelions
Starting point is 00:54:11 and just chewed them up and just ate them, either that or rolled them up and smoked them well it would make you feel better and so now you know there's not enough dandelions and daisies and magnolias and things like that to go around so they've got to distill these things over there with the CBD
Starting point is 00:54:30 but it all comes from from the earth Brian from the from the Native American soil they had the answer till we poison them well what do you say what comes from the earth the plant-based solutions. It all comes from the air. That's where plants come from in my neck of the woods. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Where do the plants grow? That's where they come from here too. I just... Well, then what are you questioning me? You know, you lost me around the bend. You lost me at the fork. Well, you need to bend over farther. That's why you need CBD because you're bad back.
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Starting point is 00:55:43 on you mentally and you don't have all these other goddamn distractions and fucking strad people calling you and goddamn things going on and beyond your control you have to fucking deal with this guy and that guy and the other guy well you you'll feel even better than we do because we feel pretty good and we got all that shit going on yeah that's right yeah cbdistillery dot com promo code jce throw your stresses at the window pack them up in your old knapsack and take them out in the woods and bury them in a shallow grave. Yeah, or something like that, metaphorically speaking,
Starting point is 00:56:25 would CB Distillery one more time, Jim, concisely, what is that promo code? One more time, will you take them and pack them up in your knapsack and take them out in the woods? Oh, you mean the promo code. That's what I mean, the aforementioned promo code. J-C-E. All right, we continue on with the fun, happy, uh, fun show.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Happy fun. This, the super, the super terrific happy hour. Well, this is the happy hour. We guarantee at least one hour of happiness every week, and that is the second hour, of course, of the program. So this is the hour where it'll be nothing. I was happy. I was happy a few minutes ago. You mean I wasn't supposed to be happy?
Starting point is 00:57:08 You have to be happier. That wasn't happy enough. There's a happy question to be above. If I get any happier, I might hurt myself. Well, speaking of hurt yourselves or hurt others, hurt fans, whatever it may be, for whatever reason, maybe it's the time of year, the end of the season, or I don't know what, but we've received a lot of emails and a lot of people getting in touch with us about the Jaguars. Of course, the Jacksonville Jaguars owned by the Khan family, specifically Shad Khan. Tony owns a piece of it because Shad owns a piece of Tony, I guess, the way you can say. You know, there was, he was involved in the procreation.
Starting point is 00:57:49 But in the middle of getting all these emails, and I know you told me before you have one, Christopher Mad Dog Rousseau, who I grew up listening to on WFAN in the York, Sports Radio 66, Mike and the Mad Dog every day. Now, he's no relation, right? No relation, no relation whatsoever. And he has had a long career, very outspoken, entertaining.
Starting point is 00:58:12 He went off on the cons. specifically the dad, but mentioned Tony, the kid on ESPN. So what have you seen? What do you know? Well, I saw the clip where he just had a conibption fan. And I'm not a New York sports radio, aficionado listener or whatever. So I wasn't really up to date on this whole thing as far as who the people are on this show or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:40 But obviously it's a mainstream sports show. and he was drooling about how bad the Jaguars were, how badly they'd been mismanaged. You know, Shad Khan did this, the other thing, but then when he got to, and the kid, it's the same thing that Nick Kahn said, right? The kid, is that how Tony is known amongst
Starting point is 00:59:05 the other, the mainstream pro sports franchises, the Hollywood people, the deal makers, whatever, the kid? It's Jeff Wilpon. I've been saying this all along. The father bought the team. The kid came along as part of the deal. But unless the kid, and there's been lots of them in history, Tony's the latest, unless they break out and show they have ability or understanding,
Starting point is 00:59:32 somehow they get it right. Then you've got a problem. There's been a lot of rich kids who think they're brilliant, interfering in various sports franchises, for as far back as I could remember. Well, you know, hold on, I made a note here. Ah, he said his kid is the head of stat data? What's he ever done in football?
Starting point is 00:59:58 It's like the football equivalent of who'd he ever beat? And he, this guy actually said, the mad dog. I don't like to say that other name. Nobody is worse than Khan. he said he's won 10 games a year once in 13 years as owner of that team see my favorite thing because he also you know Chris Russo has a speech impediment and he like screams and sometimes he just I guess throws in words the way he said it he goes let no let's face it now if he wasn't a noted commentator and personality on this show if he was on a street corner you
Starting point is 01:00:34 might call some type of city authority he is by far horrendous That one got me because I didn't expect horrendous to be the next word. He is by far horrendous. Horrendous by far. That's, you know, you can't hardly come back from that. But is that, the football people are offended too, right? For their football like we are for our wrestling. If you're someone who has been working in football,
Starting point is 01:01:09 for 20 years, for 10 years, whatever it may be, but you've been working behind the scenes, you've worked your way up. You do that because you actually have some talent, some skill, and there's someone who has just been placed in a role where they actually think they know more than everyone else. Don't ever forget that Tony truly believes he knows more about wrestling and how to do it than everyone else,
Starting point is 01:01:34 and he knows more about football and the statistics and all this shit did everyone else. Did he start the statistics company? Or did he buy it? And we don't hear anything about that anymore. But if he's doing the statistics for a team that continually fails. But besides, how is he booking all these shows and making all these deals into wrestling
Starting point is 01:01:56 business and doing anything with the football team still running a statistics company? I mean, he might own something. I'm sure they have plenty of fucking companies. But like you said, we've been getting emails also, and then the mad dog had gone off about this thing and brought it to the attention of the mainstream sports world, but we got an email from...
Starting point is 01:02:20 He said, why don't they kill the owner? You recommend, did they kill the owner? I don't know that we need to go that far, ladies and gentlemen. See, you now, a lot of other people say things, inflammatory things on programs, and we always seem to... That's because we have such a wide listenership. But anyway...
Starting point is 01:02:39 Zach, yes. I'm just going to give this man's name is Zach. I don't want anything to be held against him in a court of law. But he wrote at about the same time as this commentary was going on with Mad Dog
Starting point is 01:02:53 as a diehard fan of both wrestling and the NFL, I loved the videos you've posted in the past talking about the Urban Meyer fiasco. That was the coach of the Jaguars that they fired for all kinds of stuff. and how awful Shad Khan is doing as the owner of the Jaguars.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Now that their season has ended, I think it's appropriate to tell you from a football fan perspective how terrible of a job Shad is doing compared to what you guys already know about his son's wrestling company. So here's terrible being used, but not beyond horrible yet. By far horrendous. By far horrendous. A lot of people don't think it'd be like,
Starting point is 01:03:39 it is, but it do. I'll nail that one of these days. Before this season, Shad said in an interview, make no mistake, this is the best team assembled by the Jacksonville Jaguars ever. They ended up going four and thirteen.
Starting point is 01:03:56 The fifth worst team in the NFL by draft order. I'm not familiar with technical terms. And that matches up with Tony as Rome is burning, as shit was breaking down whenever the things are cratering. everything's great.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Everything's great. This is the best show we've ever done. We're on the best run of show. I think we're on the best run of shows we've ever done. Let's go to the next question from Russell Kiss or whoever the fuck's out there. Russell, care. Well, you know, hey, I'll tell you what, they get some scoops. Must be some kind of pillow talk over at Russell Kiss.
Starting point is 01:04:29 But anyway, with a season that bad, Zach continues, after very high expectations set by the owner you'd expect changes within the organization. On Monday, they fired the head coach Doug Peterson, a former Super Bowl champion coach with the Philadelphia Eagles. However, they kept the general manager Trent Balke, B-A-A-L-K-E, Balke. Who was the GM that was responsible for hiring both Meyer and Peterson? as well as building the team in the way it has been built in terms of personnel. Most, if not, all Jags fans hate the decision to bring Balke back.
Starting point is 01:05:16 They were there were balking all over the state on Balkey. You've heard about this, haven't you, Brian? I have, and you want, honestly, this is the problem. Who's really the GM of that team? Is this guy a real GM or is he just do what Tony wants? Who's running that team? Well, to the point that they were upset that during a story, streamed press conference to announce the firing of Peterson and keeping a bulky,
Starting point is 01:05:39 their fans put nothing but clown emojis in the comments section. During this press conference, Khan said that he would consider firing bulky if the coaching candidates they interview give him a reason to. He said this while on a Zoom call with Balkei. The guy was sitting right next to him. I'll be happy to fire this guy if someone, gives me a good reason.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And then Balke was looking for all the hands to go up. Okay, since 2012 Khan's first full season after buying the Jaguars, they have by far the worst record in the NFL with an astonishingly bad 64 and 148, with the next worst team having nine more wins. They've only made the playoffs twice and 13 seasons. And while they have been consistently one of, if not the worst, team in the NFL throughout his tenure, their struggles don't get talked about very often on national sports media outlets
Starting point is 01:06:42 besides the Urban Meyer controversy or when they made their superstar quarterback walked back to the locker room after a serious ankle injury because they have the fourth smallest media market with only Green Bay Buffalo and New Orleans being smaller metro populations with an NFL franchise. And I'm surprised New Orleans is. smaller than Jacksonville? Population-wise, that's surprising.
Starting point is 01:07:11 But it's safe to assume that if the cons were doing this badly in a major city instead of the least relevant media market, that there would be people that work for national sports media calling for him to sell the team. And apparently he says there have also been rumors since the start of his ownership that he wants to move the team to London to play at Wembley as they already play two of their 17 games in London every season.
Starting point is 01:07:41 But the NFL has not fully addressed these rumors possibly because they don't want to ruin their international market by making the UK watch eight or nine games a year of absolutely terrible football. That was one of the things Chris Mad Dogg Rousseau said in that thing. He goes, yeah, you're going to be a team from London. My mother's English. Nobody, I think the exact quote was,
Starting point is 01:08:00 Nobody cares about the stupid jaguas in London. Well, they're offended. They're offended that we call football football, right? Because of their football. Do they have a good reputation based on phone? The idea that they would be the people to bring... No, remember that those fans are the ones that says he masturbates dogs. I don't think that's a good relationship.
Starting point is 01:08:25 That's right. Well, I was trying to be nice for the sponsors. I'm not like the rock. You think masturbates is nicer than Wank? Well, it's a bigger word. It's okay, hold on here a second. Now, see, we go to the American... I'm not saying the American Heritage Dictionary.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I'm not saying that. We go to the American Heritage Dictionary. You can say it on TV if it's in the dictionary. That's my rule. That's what I've stuck by all these years. I've been on television. So let's see, you got Matt... Dementer has been updated in 50 years.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Mastodon. Wait a minute. Who wrote this thing? Are events? Master bait. Master bait. Yeah. Bated or baiting to excite one's own or another's genitals by means other than intercourse.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Also masturbation and masturbator. Now let's see about wank. Now we go over here. We got wall to wall. We got warden. It's going to be somewhere in between. Wayne, wangle, want. No wank.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Wanton. immoral or unchaste, lewd, unrestrainedly excessive, frolicsome or playful. Well, you see, all those things can work for... According to Miriam Webster, Wank, is chiefly British slang, usually vulgar, aka wanker, means to masturbate.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Well, see, it's vulgar, though. And who would know better about vulgarity than Miriam Webster. She was a fucking prudish old bitch. Well, if I click masturbation, does it say it's vulgar? No, it ain't a say it's natural. Everybody does it.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Sometimes to other people. By instrumental manipulation, occasionally by sexual fantasies, or by a various combination of these agencies. What the fuck of the definition is this? See, I told you Miriam didn't want to talk about sex. Well, let's get off me.
Starting point is 01:10:32 And let's get back to Tony Tom. Get off Miriam. She don't want you on her. You know, again, this ties to wrestling. I guess that's really where it all started with the emails about the Jaguars and Folham. When you see the issues they've had in AEW. When you see the way that things have been handled. And again, we say Tony, don't forget Mega was the Jaguars legal person.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Yeah, she was having a party over an AEW. and now she's back with the Jaguars. It's the same group of people that don't know how to manage things. She had been there for years and primary before the AEW gig was primary with the football team and as you said, that's where she's back.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And again, Chris Russo said it, and I've said it before, he's made billions with that patent. Give him credit for his creation, for owning the patent, and for having balls of steel not to sell the patent. Because you know he's been offered billions for it,
Starting point is 01:11:30 he must have been. It's worth a lot of money. They've used that money to buy a soccer team or a football team, an American football team or a football team, whatever you want to think. A statistics company, apparently, a wrestling company. What is lighting the world on fire? You know, you can own an NFL team, and that opens all the doors, and you're almost guaranteed you're going to make money. That's like the attitude at AEW. It's like, well, Tony made the money. Tony, Tony's made the money with the media rights. Yeah, but the actual content is bad, and people aren't coming. And with Jaguars, with the Jaguars,
Starting point is 01:12:11 it appears that their fans and the Fulham fans and the frustrated wrestling fans all understand each other. But there are all kinds of football soccer teams and all kinds of football football teams. But unfortunately, there's only a couple of wrestling companies. And so I think it's more impactful
Starting point is 01:12:35 besides the local market, Jacksonville or Fulham? Is that a town Fulham? The Fulham fighters or whatever? The name of their arena I know is like Craven Cottage.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Well, these Craven cowards hadding in their cottage, no wonder they never win a game. But the point is besides the local area there, there's all kinds of other football teams and soccer teams and everything, but we got to suffer under this on national TV over here. All of us as a group, as a family of wrestling fans,
Starting point is 01:13:10 as a community, as the kids say. Well, Jim, speaking of which, let's get it out of the way before we have some more fun. AEW Dynamite this past week. They were in, where were they? I should know this. They were in Clarksville, Tennessee. Clarksville, Tennessee, putting Clarksville on the, map, I guess next to the seafood.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Is that what I know Clarksville for? No, that's Clarksville, Indiana. And it's a long way, it's a long way in between. Well, Clarksville, Tennessee. You just mentioned it. They were in a community. They weren't really in a city. They were in a community.
Starting point is 01:13:47 No, Clarksville, I actually had feedback on Twitter that they got mad at me. And when I said facetiously or smart allocadilly, I don't know several weeks ago that Clarksville was suburban Nashville quote unquote I said that may be how they'd try to sell it but no Clarksville is 50 miles away from Nashville and they've got this new building out there now
Starting point is 01:14:15 and you know it it looked like they had more people than normal because they're in a smaller building but still they didn't fill up the smaller building but they're in Clarksville so that you know if everybody in town came they'd have a hard time Tony Chivani was on assignment boating with Walter Cronkite I suppose
Starting point is 01:14:39 so we had commentary from sock face Daddy Mac and Ian Rickabani Yeah can I say something here at the start Please do Not having Chivani there was the best thing possible And he just acted like a fool on Twitter with this Chris Charlton thing Telling him on behalf of AWGFY Okay
Starting point is 01:14:59 What the fuck Okay But he sucks so bad That it was just a great thing Not to have him on air Excalibur's awful Excalibur sitting next to Ian Rickabani Has further exposed
Starting point is 01:15:13 Excalibur And the feedback we've heard From AEW fans Who liked Excalibur Who were sick of him I think that's a bigger audience Than people realize I'm not saying
Starting point is 01:15:26 Ian's perfect but Ian may be the better person right now to have on that show get Excalibur on a Ring of Honor or something. Something. Well, yeah, because he's a legitimate, real normal person who is a competent broadcaster who knows his shit and could appeal to a younger demographic because he's younger.
Starting point is 01:15:53 And instead you got this fucking guy with these fantasies that he was a known wrestler by anybody except his immediate family wearing his fucking clown outfit and doing the same commentary he used to do on VHS tapes in his fucking basement. That's where he's progressed to in life.
Starting point is 01:16:13 He's 40 fucking something years old, right? I believe so. He hadn't figured because his friends found an angel and got a money mark to... Oh, he's... Here, hire this guy, he does great commentary for PWG VHSs.
Starting point is 01:16:33 The fuck. But at this point, he's not close to their biggest problem, but point registered. The opening match, I'm not going to really talk about what they did in these matches. I'm talking about what they fucking could have done, or why did they do this thing. Will Osprey versus Buddy Matthews. and we've said before Buddy Matthews has the size, has the physique,
Starting point is 01:17:04 his work physically, the performance of the moves, and, etc., his look, they're all great. Fucking, he's a caveman. He's in a rotten group. He's been booked horribly and has the worst heel name ever.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Those are the drawbacks. But you have this match and Buddy Matthews is in the House of Black. with Malachi Black and Brody King when you ever see him together not that I'm complaining but he's been presented as a heel pretty much the whole time
Starting point is 01:17:39 except when for some reason the House of Black were fighting the other heels and who can remember anything that happened in this company passed three months ago anyway maybe but here they've got this match so this jacked up monster in this heel group
Starting point is 01:17:56 could beat the shit out of Will Osprey and have Will Osprey sell like Riggie Morton but have him fight from underneath and get the fans behind him and use his baby face athleticism and his tricky, flippy, snazzy moves to foil the strength and power of the bigger guy and triumph possibly by outsmarting him
Starting point is 01:18:23 or they could do what they did. They could have a match like their physical equals. Do the odd combination of square dancing and gymnastics that all these guys do. Buddy Matthews can pretend to be a luchador. Osprey can land on his feet from multiple directions for no parent purpose. You can have no discernible baby face or heel. You can get no heat for the fucking struggle itself, but you can get the fans to just register and pop on the moves.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And you can do moves back and forth with no rhyme or reason just because you can do them and have nobody come out of the match better because since they both did the same shit equally as good and buddy looks twice as good physically, they ought to just put Buddy over and pay him the millions of dollars they're paying Osprey if it's just moves, right? I think they were both baby faces it seemed like here
Starting point is 01:19:38 and that's what this is and I think that's what you're going to get with Will Osprey. That'll be the thing that differentiates AEW's top guy or one of their top guys from WWE. It's not about stories, although the fans who love them will tell you, It really is the stories. They're just, they're really deep. And, you know, he's afraid Fletcher's going to go to his kids' school. That's not a story.
Starting point is 01:19:58 That's stupidity. But, yeah, it's going to be when you see him against Buddy Matthews. It's not going to be the bigger, more muscular, clearly, you know, visually, just way more muscular guy. Then 99% of the people on Earth, let alone Will Osprey. But with a Will Osprey match, it's a move-for-move spot-for-spot match. And Matthews is out there doing the same foolishness. And risking he's going to hurt himself. But they both kicked out of a half dozen finishes
Starting point is 01:20:30 without seconds later showing ill effects. And then the finish was, there was Matthews is on his knees in the middle of the ring and Osprey backed up in the corner and took off his elbow pad and stood there preparing or squatted there preparing like he was shitting in the woods. and Matthews looks up at him and stares at him. The camera, the close-up, sees him staring at Osprey for 10 full seconds
Starting point is 01:20:58 before Osprey takes off and runs and hits him with that shitty-looking little elbow deal with Matthews not trying in any way to move. Just, oh, shit, this guy's going to run and hit me. Fuck, I wish I could do something about it, but I can't. Bam! One, two, three. Same match every other one of these morons has. But he could be a player with a name and a gimmick and a presentation.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I don't know why that Osprey uses that elbow as a finish when it's the 27th most impressive thing he does. And then the condescending promo. He gets the microphone and still. the people give it up for buddy murphy and he's over buddy matthews he forgot his fucking name and that's you know what that's like one of those minor league things you hate to see happen because the last thing you wanted people think about is buddy murphy that's worse than buddy matthews buddy matthews is bad enough they don't even own that name so yeah that's a shitty
Starting point is 01:22:10 slip-up well but the point is he forgets his name and he normally speaks like a kidnapped victim with a tube sock stuck in his mouth. I'm talking about Osprey, but he's gargling, he's after the match, but his promo was to say how good that Buddy is and that he can win gold too if he works hard, but he looks like he should eat this little piss ant, and Osprey is condescending like he's speaking to a fucking monkey. And then Osprey offers his hand and says, if you ever need someone in your corner, I'm your guy. And the heel, and he just beat, reaches out and shakes his hand. I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:22:51 Every other match, the heels get heat afterwards, but here they don't? So Matthews, and if they're trying to turn him baby face, why'd they bring him out and fucking beat him and then have one of the other baby faces, pat him on the head like, good kid, you'll be something someday. Matthews got beat flat, told he can be a champion if he works hard, and then shook the hand and thanked the guy who beat him and told him that. Should he just go away now? Well, apparently Malachi Black is on the way out.
Starting point is 01:23:27 At least that's the presumption. I'll be honest, if I'm WWE, I don't know if I would want him, but I guess they want him. I don't know why. I haven't seen anything that made me think this guy. needs more TV time. And maybe him leaving is the key to Buddy and Brody getting new names. No, but getting some more TV time and getting used better
Starting point is 01:23:49 because they don't have Malachi Black holding them down anymore. How is it using somebody better to bring him out and beat him? And switch him apparently baby face without actually doing it. So nobody knows what the fuck to think. They've kind of slowly, weirdly been turning Brody King and Buddy Babyface for a little while. Buddy's been getting good reactions for a little while. And of course, he lost here in the opening match.
Starting point is 01:24:14 I mean, he looked good in them. They both look good in there. And the fans love Osprey. The problem is you keep starting these shows out with Osprey. It's hard for anyone else at the show to compete with what he's doing. He's kicking out of everything and doing everything. And then he starts to show. They actually might could have put Buddy over,
Starting point is 01:24:35 maybe made something out of him there. Like I said, they could pay buddy Osprey's money because he's bigger and looks better and can do all the same fucking moves, so, and he can probably talk better unless he can get that tube sock out of his fucking gullet. Rob. Anyway, then we came to a Tokyo Dome package
Starting point is 01:24:59 where there were random highlights and comments from the talent, and most of the time they can, could only shoot up to show the roof of the Tokyo dome. Because as we mentioned, there weren't a lot of fans in a building that size. And, but here's the thing, the Buccaroos were wrestling there with no explanation of why they won't show up here. They're just holding their, the tag team belts from over there and saying, well, we might
Starting point is 01:25:25 bring these to AEW. That's all we need. And then there was highlights of Kenny wrestling, including diving off. of something and saying I'm back and then he came out later on in the show to milk whether he was going to be able to come back or not. Did you catch that? I did. What the thing? They just showed him diving off. It looked like Johnny Weissmuller diving off a goddamn waterfall at a Tarzan movie. Then an hour later he limps out like, oh, I don't know whether I can keep up with this or not. anyway then let's move on to the
Starting point is 01:26:08 the private party shall we you want to go to a private party Brian oh not this one but uh we could talk about the private party I guess it's not even their segment their involvement in this next segment well it was such a private party they had to pay the girls to come to it private party came out on stage and there was the table set up with champagne the ice buckets and five strippers from Nashville I give them the benefit of the doubt They may be from Clarksville
Starting point is 01:26:39 Because I'm in Clarksville in a while But I don't think when I was there The last time that they actually allowed Stripping in Clarksville So I think they had to bring them up from Nashville Is that true? One of them had half her head shaved Is that true?
Starting point is 01:26:51 They didn't allow stripping in Clarksville? Oh, are you kidding? There's tons of places In Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi where there's various laws against any nippleage being shown or any touching being done or any garments being removed or whatever. There's all kinds of... This is a Bible Belt here, pal.
Starting point is 01:27:13 What the heck? I just figured there was a Mons Venus everywhere. No, there wasn't even the Mons Mercury, which was considerably hotter. So they have this whole stage set up, and the fans barely care at all that these people are speaking. They're trying to celebrate them winning the tag team title and they've got the guy with the velvet rope to let people in and everything. And the people are just sitting there.
Starting point is 01:27:42 And there's kind of conversations rumbling in the arena. Should it be the same security guard, the same one we see every week walking Moxley and his friends out the ringside, the same one we see escorting any of the women anywhere, the same one we see anytime anyone's in the crowd? Should it be the same guy to be the guy with their velvet rope? Yes. He's got kids.
Starting point is 01:28:01 to put through school. He needs to pick up these extra jobs wherever he can. You know how much this gig pays to stand there and let some fucking morons in through that fucking rope? It's easy work if you can get it. Anyway, they do this and nobody cares. And then the music plays and here comes MVP and Sheldon Benjamin and Bobby Lashley. And then
Starting point is 01:28:27 the people wake up and they start reacting because here's some stars. that carry themselves and they look impressive. And again, it's just a difference in the overall presentation. And the fans reacted. If you noticed when the music hit for them, it's a different kind of pop that everyone else is getting. Not to say it's a road warrior pop or anything, but...
Starting point is 01:28:53 Well, yeah, but it's not like the giggle or it's not like, oh, shit, here we go. You know, more type of... We're going to get serious. Somebody's going to get their ass kicked around here. And MVP goes in and builds them up like he's putting them over, putting the guys over, hey, what you've done and blah, blah, blah, blah. We want a party too. We want a drill.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Let's have a shot. Whatever. And they're, again, private party, whether they realized it or not, the one guy was like, oh, yeah, let me get you a glass. Like they immediately become subservient. But they're just their kids and people can tell. And they don't have it yet. and MVP does the deal
Starting point is 01:29:36 let's all raise a glass and drink to private party the tag team title and to the hurt syndicate taken the tag team title and then Lashley poured the drink in their ice bucket and they they fucking walked off and private party stood there and took it I am a hurt syndicate fan so I got a kick out of it but on the other hand
Starting point is 01:29:58 should the baby face tag team be treated like that and then react like that? Well, yes and no. If they were the top baby face team, which let's face it, they got no business being the world tag team champions of a national company right now at this stage of their game and the way they've been presented. And also, look, no, they get their fucking ass kicked
Starting point is 01:30:24 to be what fuck with these guys. The problem I have it being for the tag team title, if it had been some middle card team and the fucking Hurt Syndicate comes out there and does that yeah, that's getting a Hurt Sendicate over because they're going to draw you some money. But the fact that these guys
Starting point is 01:30:41 that tag team champions, it was like, oh shit, this is the state of it. But no, they should have done that because private party's not going to fucking sell any goddamn they're not going to sell pussy on a troop train, much less tickets to a wrestling event see them fight Hurt Syndicate. Hurt Syndicate needs to win the fucking belts
Starting point is 01:30:59 and move on. You know, we haven't really talked about that. We've talked so much about Lashley as a single or Shelton as a single. Them as a tag team, it's pretty interesting because that's a tag team division that's dead. And instantly, it has a new look and a new kind of feel.
Starting point is 01:31:19 I don't really want to see FTR against anyone right now. FTR against the Hertz Syndicate, that's interesting. You know, like that would be, tremendous. Yeah. Four professionals. Say what you want. And that's also, they're going to have a problem because who's believable against Lashley? The fucking land of Lilliput here. So as a team, you can do certain things. But anyway, but yeah, but anyway, private party, man, more on them in a minute. That's what they should do. Who could stop Lashley? Who is there that can stop this man's dominance?
Starting point is 01:31:56 You can build that forever. Well, but no, they're too busy. try to sell that fucking white boy from Cincinnati as a toughest man on the earth. But they went to the ring the Hurt Syndicate did and Lashley had a match with Mark Briscoe and here was another lesson to be learned about booking. Well, and there's been several times that Mark could have been one of the top two or three
Starting point is 01:32:16 baby faces in his company and done him some good is long over thanks to this shit booking. So he might as well put Bobby Lashley over and you know at least that's something positive for the future. or the company, but Bobby mostly beat the shit out of Mark Briscoe at the start and through the match as he should to get over, but the people
Starting point is 01:32:38 feel so bad for the way that Mark has been treated in the booking that they don't want to see him get the shit kicked out of him and they just sit there. But they booked themselves into a corner because they can't at this point in Lashley's trajectory have a competitive match. so finally mark did a dive and the fans woke up and he did another dive and a froggy bow of one count and then Lashley speared him choke slammed him and hurt locked him ding ding ding and you know again
Starting point is 01:33:17 it's it's a waste of mark because of where mark should be and could have been in the pecking order but the way it is now, what the fuck? And then they go for more heat and the private party comes in with both of them had chairs and just stood up and stood there with the chairs and like, please don't make us use these. Please do not make us engage.
Starting point is 01:33:45 And MVP and the guys, they just stand up and MVP is, okay, no problem, kids. We'll go on and we'll leave. And they step out slowly and private parties stand there with chairs in hand, Dick's in hand. They didn't know. But again, you don't, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:05 even the two of them with chairs, Lashley and Shelton and MVP would destroy them. So, but that was that. What'd you think? I thought it was all right. Again, I'm intrigued about the idea of these guys will be in the tag team division, hopefully on top of the tag team division,
Starting point is 01:34:24 opens up a whole new set of possibilities for matches and everything else. Mark Briscoe, you know, they've had missed opportunities and also when there was a time after that, they put them in the conglomeration. Yeah. Which were four guys standing in the back doing goofy interviews while the commentator
Starting point is 01:34:44 or the announcer, Renee, mostly, played along, laughed along, had a good time with these wacky wrestling characters. They've done no favor to Mark Briscoe. And, uh, that's that. But you know, you have to wonder, like, Lashley and Shelton, I think everyone kind of knows they're badasses.
Starting point is 01:35:06 And unlike an MVP, they're clean-shaven. I've never seen Bobby Lashley with a mustache. Nope. I've never seen Shelton Benjamin with a goatee. Well, I do have one picture of Shelton with a sheep, but not a goat. Well, again, that's not what I said, that's what Jim Cornett said, but what
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Starting point is 01:40:48 that will happen next week in the Boozer's hometown of Cincinnati where from what we are told and what we are seeing here now on this go-round, nobody gives a shit in Cincinnati that John Moxley lives there or is from there. He never draws in Cincinnati. Is he the only majorly pushed wrestler in the world that doesn't draw in the place he lives? He's the worst kind of heel, an unknown heel in his hometown. I don't know. I mean, they've done better crowds in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 01:41:23 It feels like they've gone to Cincinnati a lot. Well, they remember they were supposed to be in Louisville, but they ex-nate that and they moved to Cincinnati on about two weeks' notice. John Moxley's segments have killed the ratings. John Moxley's segments have caused AEW fans to just pray for it to end. The amount of people I've seen praying for Kenny Omega to just win the title and the Moxley stuff to go away.
Starting point is 01:41:45 And by the way, I'm on that team now. Just give Omega the AW title. Let's go back to what it was a few years ago. This Moxley stuff is terrible. He's a heel that you wouldn't want to support. Why would anyone in his hometown want to support him? It's like when Nick Dinsmore was in Ohio Valley Wrestling, every time we would have a spot show at his old high school,
Starting point is 01:42:08 it would draw five, six, seven hundred people, right? Because, you know, Nick had, you know, become something of a draw, in the local scene and the wrestling business. And then after he becomes the Eugene and he's on national TV, we ran the same show there. There's 200 people. It's like, what fucking school would want to claim
Starting point is 01:42:32 that they fucking produce this guy? Here's our former valedictorian right here coming out. Yeah, here he comes. He's waving at the crowd. So that killed that. anyway um I'm not even good at this thing went half an hour plus
Starting point is 01:42:52 j white and hang nail page started out and then came wheeler useless and then came ricochet and when ricochet came out they played swerves music at first and then switched it over so the fans were extra pissed but apparently the fans are enjoying
Starting point is 01:43:11 booing ricochet maybe not in the classic money-drawing sense, but just telling him what a fucking puts he is. Yeah, it's interesting. The other thing I thought while watching this is like, this whole casino match, it's like one skinny guy after another. Well, speaking of which, number five, was Adam Cole.
Starting point is 01:43:33 And bless him, and I like Adam. I enjoyed working with him in Ring of Honor. I thought he was a very talented young man and the promos, and they had a thing going in NXT. I don't know what's the matter, what's happening. And again, if it's an illness or some physical issue, that I apologize, but what is going on here? Not even, certainly he's had no,
Starting point is 01:43:59 he must just not give a shit about any input in his booking because it's been spectacularly bad. But what the fuck are they trying to accomplish here now? If he doesn't need to be in the ring, should he concentrate on trying to get better? If there's something to get better from, I don't know what's going on. And speaking of not knowing what was going on,
Starting point is 01:44:19 number six was Danny Garcia. Out to complete silence. I don't think they knew who he was. And then... Again, another really skinny guy. It was a noticeable difference from this to NXT or WWE. Anything you see, everyone was a slight guy.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Slight, I was a slight. I love to do. They were very emaciated. Not emaciated, but just slight. No one is imposing in any sense of the word. Well, here we go then. Because number seven, very integral part of this, powerhouse Hobbs. Now he is.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Our friend Willie Hobbs. Now he's imposing. And he got in and threw everybody around. And it woke the people up when he would do that. This went across the 9 o'clock hour, but it was 20 minutes. it was still going on. But when Hobbs was beating everybody up, I thought, you know, they could get him over if he wins this,
Starting point is 01:45:23 but then he'd have to wrestle Moxley. And I said, oh, fuck, I don't want to wish that on him. But then, more on this in a moment, Roderick Strong. And then Lance Archer came in. And again, a few years ago, without the Jake Roberts thing and the beating up the production assistance and the here today gone tomorrow and all these other things you might could have got something out of Lance but right now he detracted from Hobbs being the
Starting point is 01:45:54 biggest guy in the match and Hobbs versus Archer did neither guy any good because they both have to be big and invincible and nobody's going to tell Archer apparently fugg and fly for Hobbs because he's our horse in this race so then Kyle O'Reilly and then finally, and remember he had said he was going to be in this, Jeff Jarrett, the music plays and here comes Jeff, and the people really woke up for pretty much the first time 25 minutes in. Hey, listen, despite that email you got, it may be 50 miles outside of Nashville, but that was a Jeff Jarrett crowd.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Well, yes, because it's still the Nashville TV market, and most of those people probably came to. to be honest from Nashville. And because Clarksville ain't that big of town. And besides that, he's been on television here for almost for 40 years next year. And you know, because he's in Nashville and he's business-minded, I'm sure he was doing some local publicity. So, and they wanted to see him in the goddamn casino gauntlet. They probably wanted to see him win it, but maybe if somebody eliminated him,
Starting point is 01:47:13 him last, they might get some heat for doing it. Or any of them, but as he's on the way to the ring, Wheeler useless, of all people, jumped him from behind in the aisleway and they fought to the back. And Jeff Jarrett never got in this goddamn match, never even made it to the ring.
Starting point is 01:47:37 And you could tell the fans were fucking hot, and they still had to watch more of this bullshit match. So that's now squashed any response they're going to get for anything. And two minutes later, Hobbs, Spinebustard Kyle O'Reilly,
Starting point is 01:47:58 you're going to win a big fucking match. You're going to win it over Kyle O'Reilly that hasn't beaten anybody since he beat his fucking sister playing fucking checkers when he was in sixth grade. He Spinebustard O'Reilly one, two, three. And it...
Starting point is 01:48:14 So they did put him over, but after they pissed the fans off that they didn't get to see Jeff and it was a flat finish, and now he's got to wrestle Dick the Boozer. And that's going to suck because Moxley can have a good match and he won't put this guy over
Starting point is 01:48:33 so his push is going to last all of one fucking week. What is Hobbs done to these people? And then... Did you see the promo afterwards? Yes, Renee Moxley Good gets in the ring and asks Hobbs about the match next week against... She doesn't say this, but against her husband.
Starting point is 01:48:56 She just refers to him against John Moxley. And Hobbs can talk, which makes it even more shocking. They can't figure out how to do anything with him. And he said he plans on shocking the world and making Moxley his bitch. to his wife. So Hobbs wants Renee's job.
Starting point is 01:49:20 And then Hobbs left the ring. And we're 30 minutes in to this fiasco at that point. And as he's on the way back, Jeff Jarrett comes back out and shakes Hobbs' hand. And then starts walking to the ring. And the announcers don't even mention Jeff's presence in the building,
Starting point is 01:49:42 even though he's on the monitor on the camera shot they go to a package on the history between Christian and a hook as Jeff is meandering back to the ring with a hang dog expression your thoughts before we come back from the break my thoughts on which part of it exactly on what the fuck's going on here that casino match went forever
Starting point is 01:50:07 I like the idea of Hobbs getting a push I like the idea of Hobbs getting interview time unless they're going to do Rocky 3 and it's going to be a 90-second thing where he destroys Moxley it doesn't help him to have a competitive match with Moxley right now. This is a guy that still needs recovery
Starting point is 01:50:26 from at this point years of missed opportunities and bad booking. Oh, you mean Hobbs needs recovery from this? I mean Hobbs. I thought you meant Moxley needed recovery from things he's recovered from before. I don't think anything's going to change there. So we come back to the ring,
Starting point is 01:50:46 and now Ian Rickabani is in the ring with Jeff Jarrett. And Ian says, well, you know, how are you feeling, Jeff, after you didn't get in the goddamn deal? And the crowd cheers him. And Jeff's whole promo, he starts out, you know, I was wondering, do I still have what it takes? And he got some cheers.
Starting point is 01:51:07 and then suddenly MJ before he's really said anything MJF's music plays and he comes the ring and they have a face off and there Ian just slinked off to the corner already before anybody had even spoken to him what the
Starting point is 01:51:29 why do the announcers why are they treated like whipped puppies and have no credibility they're the goddamn hosts of the program. Does this happen in the NBA? But anyway, then MJF said, hey, Ian Rickaboney, you Bible thumping
Starting point is 01:51:47 prick, get out of my ring. I didn't know that Ian was a thumper of the Bible, but regardless, the announcer, that's why they're just jokes to people. And the only one that they don't talk to like a flunky is the one that really is a fucking flunky. Sockface.
Starting point is 01:52:07 So anyway, this was long, and I'm not sure where they're going, except that I want to see the match instantly, because MJF probably the best match he can have in the company against somebody that won't hurt him is probably Jeff Jarrett. But MJF wants the belt, his belt back that he never really lost, but the title picture is complicated. And one man might be, worthy of wearing that belt, Jeff Jarrett.
Starting point is 01:52:43 And then of course, MJF, my dad was a fan of yours when he was a kid. But MJF reveals that the contract Jeff signed, the last contract, was for only one year because that was all they would give him. And so he's got a year to prove that he still got it. And MJF's, I can help you. Without my help, you couldn't win a match. But when I help you win the belt, I'm first. in line for a title shot. That's the deal.
Starting point is 01:53:14 And you, I mean, yeah, they're setting it up, okay, but you already know where this is going. I don't think it's like Jeff is going to give this any consideration. And Jeff takes the microphone and then he cuts the promo. You learn a lot more from your failures
Starting point is 01:53:28 than you do from your successes. But Max, you're a one-hit wonder. And he got to people actually chanting one-hit wonder. This was the only thing. Jeff was the only thing. I think people were consistently interested in all night in this building. And Jeff said, I've been at rock bottom,
Starting point is 01:53:47 but I can fight my way back. And you could have entered the gauntlet. But you ain't going to, I'm going to make the most of 2025. I don't need you and I ain't buying it. You entitled prick. And he left. So I don't know why they promised Jeff was going to do something in a building that was wanting to see him do it.
Starting point is 01:54:13 and then not have him do anything in it. And like I said, I'd like to see MJF against Jeff, just because it'll be a good wrestling match, but I don't know that's the answer to their box office woes at this point. What's going on here, Brian? And on that topic, real quick, I'll say it here, according to Ressel Ticks, 2,482 tickets distributed for their debut here in Clarksville. You know, I said it last week when you were more critical than I thought you would be, actually,
Starting point is 01:54:50 about the Jeff Jarrett promo. I said, I'm willing to give a time and see where it goes. I don't want to see him against Moxley. But the idea of Jeff Jarrett chasing for the title could be something. MJF is kind of going down that same road. He's chasing for that title. And the idea of MJF and Jeff Jarrett doing something together could be good. Now, if last week was Jeff Jarrett saying goodbye to Jay Lethle and Sanjay and the Giant and Karen for a while, and we can get just Jeff Jarrett chasing, Jeff Jarrett having an obstacle and someone who's chasing after the same thing fighting him, it could be good. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:35 If it's two weeks and then they both just move on to something else, that ain't good. And by the way, if they're going to have a long-term change, chase these two guys and whoever else in the company for the world title. Fingers crossed, it's Kenny Omega, not John Moxley, holding that belt. Omega versus MJF? I'm intrigued by that. Omega versus Jeff Jarrett will be worlds better than Jeff Jarrett versus Moxley. Again, it's a slow build, it seems.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Two weeks, no one's gotten punched in the face. But they're going somewhere with this. But week three is usually where some kind of diabolical thing has to happen, so we'll see. Some, some, what was the goddamn phrase again? Now I've lost it again. Beyond horrid. Well, and they're doing this at the same time that John Cena thing's happening on Raw or on WW overall.
Starting point is 01:56:26 In AEW, how many things are there that guarantee you a title match? If you win the casino match, is that what Darby had? He won the casino match? No, no. He won a casino chip, didn't he? Did he win it in the casino, gone? match or in the casino? How many they have every year of those?
Starting point is 01:56:48 I don't know. You can get a title match anytime. Anytime. And everybody's got a title, so it doesn't matter. So are you... Speaking of Darby. So you're not looking forward to MJF, Jeff Jarrett, really? What do you...
Starting point is 01:57:03 Well, no. You seem kind of down on the whole thing. I just, I don't know what they're doing here. Again, get Jeff in the gauntlet. If you don't want him to win it, let fucking Hobbs go over some kind of way, but if you want to get some kind of interest going in MJF and Jeff, with MJF just making a ridiculous proposal that you know Jeff is going to turn down
Starting point is 01:57:29 for the pop in the building is not earth shattering. We don't know what the fuck's happening here. But you see, to me, I look at this and I say, here's a couple promising things to the future. MJF, Jeff Jarrett, doing something if it's done smart, if it's done well. I want to see the match, yes. I just don't think it's going to help them that much.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Well, maybe a series of angles. I'm just saying in terms of my personal enjoyment, if they do a series of angles that are actually good and makes sense, could be good. If Lashley and Shelton with MVP are on top of the tag team division, same thing. There's something I'm looking forward to that's good. So it's a couple positive potential steps in the right direction for AEW.
Starting point is 01:58:09 I'm just gun shy. I don't trust any of this stuff because it always gets. goes to hell. But you mentioned Darby Allen earlier. You know, he's gone now again. Is he climbing a mountain or what's he doing? He got kicked down the stairs. Apparently on, what was that?
Starting point is 01:58:26 On Friday or Saturday night? Well, they don't do Friday night anymore. It must have been Saturday night. The boozer and company kicked Darby down a flight of stairs in a stairwell in one of the arenas. And Darby was so happy. when he heard that he was going to get to take that bump that he had him cover it with three different camera angles
Starting point is 01:58:49 including a camera underneath the stairs so you could look up through the stairs they were shooting an interview but just happened to have a cameraman under the fucking stairs it's and you know that he went in there and Tony
Starting point is 01:59:06 I can take a bump down the stairs they can kick me down the stairs and I'll go all the way down come on you remember the work I did at Gum Alley right? Give me another shot. And that's what, and now, so he's off, they say, well, we haven't seen Darby Allen since then. Well, it ain't even been a week, but still. And we haven't seen Chavani either, coincidentally enough. Well.
Starting point is 01:59:28 And two tickets were charged in the Cayman Islands. What is going on here? I didn't know that Tony would ever go ahead and just say, heck with it, I'm going to go to the Cayman Islands with a skateboarder. Fuck Lois and the kids. His nephew. He calls him his nephew. Oh, is that what they call it these days? When he checks in at the hotel.
Starting point is 01:59:47 This is my... Oh, oh, I see. There's a very, very famous record executive who stole alive, so I can't just come right out and say, who, secretly for years, and then eventually announced that he was indeed a homosexual, he had a gay life on the side where he would get, like, male strippers
Starting point is 02:00:04 or playgirl models or whatever it was, and fly to the islands with them. They were his nephew. He had, like, a fucking dozen nephews in like a few months. Came from a big family. But we don't mean to insinuate that any of that is,
Starting point is 02:00:18 it's all comedy referring to Tony Chavani because he doesn't have a secret gay life. He doesn't even have a very happy life. The idea they're doing these things on collision. The kidnapping of the Rock and Roll Express. Now Darby's thrown down the stairs. They try the murder edge. I mean, they're just,
Starting point is 02:00:36 this Moxley stuff is so bad on every show and no one's reacting to it except the idea that people hate it. When is Tony Con can have the balls to put his foot down? When is Tony Khan going to realize this is bad? Ask Mad Dog Russo. He is by far horrendous. By far horrendous.
Starting point is 02:00:57 That's it. I'm going to write that down. Oh, wait a minute. Can you hear that? What's that? We've got sirens, sirens in the background. I don't know. I heard the fire engine or something going to.
Starting point is 02:01:10 It's snowing. out there, there might be some emergency vehicle trying to get by. Speaking of emergencies, can we declare one on poor old edge? Good Lord. Now he's involved with this whole thing, with the boozer and company, but also,
Starting point is 02:01:36 did you see the shirt he was wearing, Brian? Yeah, and my opinion is if you can't be, edge, you can't be edge. Don't try to be cute and get around it, especially when you're trying to rebrand yourself as something else. But a lot of people are going to think, well, that fucking moron just doesn't know how to spell legend, because there's no D in legend. And they're going to think, well, there's somebody that just, he's, he's, he's, uh, he's, uh, illiterate. But anyway, he put over, because that's what wrestling fans want to go out there and be known as, illiterate. that illiterate wrestling thing oh come on leave those people on no literally look at his shirt he's
Starting point is 02:02:19 illiterate but he put over how tough he was he broke his leg he came back he broke his neck he came back i'm thinking all as as he's going through this list i'm thinking well fuck i'll fight this guy i touch anything it's gonna fucking snap but he said what can you do to me moxley that hasn't been done you hurt brian danielsen you hurt derby allen but now the you know what you can't come back from me you went after my buddy's FTR so you ain't going to do anything to me and in the boozer's music
Starting point is 02:02:53 plays and here comes Dick and Claudio and useless and FTR jumped them and they have a six-way fight and Schaefer distracted Edge and Pack Pack showed back up and hit Edge with the briefcase and the heels beat up the
Starting point is 02:03:09 faces and then Moxley put a choke on edge and choked him out in the middle of the ring again. Edge only has two friends in his whole fucking company. Nobody else will come out and fight these fearsome people. We'll just let him kill Edge.
Starting point is 02:03:27 And they go to put the plastic bag over his head and fight him. Boom! They play Hobbs' music. And Hobbs walks out and all five of the heels just stepped out with no contact and that was it.
Starting point is 02:03:45 So, In Moxley's demented mind, he's thinking that they're showing deference and respect to Hobbs when the four of them plus the woman that has a weapon in her hand get out of the ring. But in their universe of logic, they've already created, these guys beat up everybody. And every time somebody runs in, they just beat them up some more. But suddenly this one guy, they're not even going to try. they want to build the anticipation. There is no anticipation.
Starting point is 02:04:19 They gave Hobbs one fucking win out of nowhere and nobody gives a shit whether Moxley sets himself on fire or not. And... And Edge once again gets his ass kicked. How many times have we seen him just down and out? Comes out there. He looks so old. He looks so much
Starting point is 02:04:38 older than he is. And then he does these promos and then he gets his ass kick. Moxley and his crew never sell and they never stay down and they're so desperate to get any heat on wheel or you to that they always have him as like the first guy to get his ass kicked or jump in
Starting point is 02:04:54 but this stuff is not connecting this stuff is not good if you wanted to have FDR and Edge make the save or FTR make the save and they do something you should have done that and then all the baby faces just look like weaklings again they repeat the same thing
Starting point is 02:05:10 over and over again with Moxley well but at the same time you know, what the fuck? Maybe Hobbs will get mad and break him in half for real next week. And then we can rejoice. But poor Edge, maybe that's why he changed his name. He was like, fuck it, can I just go by an assume name if I'm going to be doing this shit?
Starting point is 02:05:37 All righty. Maria May and Harley Cameron, what's the fuck's the matter with him? Was there something on the show? Because I did not see it. Maria May was doing a promo in the back about the upcoming women's casino gauntlet match when Harley Cameron came in screeching
Starting point is 02:05:59 and overacting where it was like she was worse than Tony Storm was a few months ago before she went away and came back with amnesia and she's screeching and talking in an accent and overacting and then they're both can we order either one of these two, some fucking talent?
Starting point is 02:06:20 Let me stop you right there. Harley Cameron, I would hire her in a second. To do what? To do anything other than wrestling. To do anything other than wrestling. I just saw a video of her. You're not going to believe this. She appeared to be one of the best ventriloquists I've ever seen in my entire life.
Starting point is 02:06:41 What? I saw a video, I guess maybe from her cameo, someone sent me. They said, you gotta see this. It was her and a dummy, a puppet, and she was better than Willie Tyler and Lester. She was really, really good. And then I saw something on TV that day where she sang a song. I'm like, man, she's really good. Wrestling may not be her thing, but she is a talent. I would hire her. A girl that looks like that, who could do ventriloquism? When the fuck has that ever happened? When are you going to open up a ventriloquism? I think it's a missed opportunity.
Starting point is 02:07:18 I think there's a route. There's a, there's a, there's a, a market for ventriloquism companies? I see a path. Not for ventriloquist companies, but to promote and manage and really push a ventriloquist, if it was the right one nowadays. Can she refrain from acting or trying to act or attempting to act on the wrestling shows? That's my whole thing. It would get her away from wrestling.
Starting point is 02:07:45 Well, you said wrestling, I thought you meant the physical act rather than the goddamn I don't know. No, but my point is she's a talented person and she's trying to display all over talents that she can on wrestling in the 90 seconds they give her and it comes across as too much. She appears to be really talented. It's just, it's not professional wrestling. It doesn't appear so. I remain unconvinced.
Starting point is 02:08:11 We shall see if she can throw her voice, if she can make noise of, without opening her mouth. Listen, I'll take watching Harley Cameron before I have to watch more of Dick the Boozer and the Boer Horseman any day of the week. That's how you do it. That's how you do it, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:08:34 Boom, they just all went down the stairs. All righty then. I've got to write that one down. It's a horseman. Okay, well, up next to bore us a three-way where the winner is the number one entrant in the casino gauntlet to determine a challenger for the women's title.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Say that again, Will. This was a three-way with the winner being number one to enter the casino gauntlet for the winner to get a shot at the women's title. Oh, that's right. We determined last year that being number one is a good thing because that means you could just pin number two and the matches over and all the surprise people will never come out. There you go.
Starting point is 02:09:19 and we've already established that they will end the fucking match or not put a featured person in the match and piss the fans off. Knowing your distaste for three-way matches and women's matches, did you watch this? And specifically, did you see the spot that everyone was talking about? No, I didn't, and I didn't know there was one. Okay. What was it?
Starting point is 02:09:38 Like a slingshot, you know the slingshot where you take the opponent's legs and you fall back and they sling up? The boomerang! The boomerang! Right into Chris Statlander's pussy. Who's standing above. of the... What did the girl's head stick in it?
Starting point is 02:09:51 They had to call AAA with a winge to get it out. She was standing there. The boomerang or the slingshot was done straight up right into the girl. But did the other girl's head lodge there? I will find you this spot and send it to you. I can't believe you didn't see this. This is the only thing anyone was sending me for a good day. I didn't see it.
Starting point is 02:10:12 But it took 15 minutes on the air for this whole thing. And Stadlander beat Tony Storm. so now that Tony Storm has amnesia, she's a job girl again starting from scratch, potentially having crotch, rash, or whatever's going on with these people. And the other option, it's either amnesia or timeless Tony Storm is tricking everyone.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Her latest role is the role of Tony Storm from a few years ago. Neither idea is very good. Okay. But she did say, she being Tony Storm, said that, you know, she did her best, but she's not ready.
Starting point is 02:10:48 It's a great honor to be out there and she's going to keep working hard. What the... So, amnesia is a hell of a drug. I have a video of the full match. I'm going to be sending you in a second. I'm trying to find exactly where the spot I was telling you about took place.
Starting point is 02:11:08 There's a lot of action that I'm scrolling right past. Everyone's down. Everyone's up. Everyone's down again? Everybody up. everybody down. Everybody gets high. Everybody gets high.
Starting point is 02:11:21 I will find this and send it to you for your opinion, but let's continue on with this. All right. Well, because we got a big fucking closing fucking deal here because Twinkle Toes McFinger Bang is back, baby. Kenny Olivier, the world's greatest wrestling artist, our old friend, he is back and he came out.
Starting point is 02:11:46 and I guess for AEW it was a snazzy set of street clothes. Hey, that was the healthiest he's looked. Now that we've seen him after a long hiatus, you realize how long he did not look very healthy. You know, if he looked at his eyes here, it was very different than before he left. It didn't look like two pissholes at a snowbank here. He kind of looked like he knew where he was of what was going on.
Starting point is 02:12:14 He wasn't so frazzled. so stressed. You know, he probably needs the CBD because he was so stressed. Well, CB distillery to be specific. Well, yes. That's the only place to get it. If you know what you're doing,
Starting point is 02:12:29 he got some Kenny Chance, he got some welcome back chance. He's got a giant gig on his forehead from New Japan. It looks like he got juice with a weed eater. And he's telling the story about a year ago I got news.
Starting point is 02:12:46 I had diverticulitis. And, you know, the doctors said, wrestle again. If you hadn't come in when you did, you may not have been living. And he's asking the questions, you know, about what his future is going to hold. He still can't talk. I think it's bland. I think it's wishy-washy. I think he's got the phone sex voice.
Starting point is 02:13:10 And he sounds as exciting as a librarian. but basically he was milking the people on how bad his help had been and what was next and not only did he just wrestle in a Tokyo dome but they showed footage of him diving off the thing in the highlights from the Tokyo Dome so where was the mystery here
Starting point is 02:13:34 there wasn't one of people knew the resolution was going to be when he said what purpose do I have on this planet it's not about the money it's not about the glory what purpose do i have on this planet if i don't have you people cheering me every night none and he got fired up about how important it was for him to prove to the fans that he's still the best and right as the overrun is starting that's when don fallis's music plays and i'm like oh god and don came out starting to speak in the entrance. He's on the microphone before he gets a few words out. Kenny dives out of the
Starting point is 02:14:19 ring and just runs down there and jumps him and starts wailing on him. And here comes Lance Archer and Brian Cage and they pull Kenny off and throw him in the ring. And here comes Kyle, Kyle Feltcher. And they beat up Kenny and Cage, I guess they're going to try again with this fucking guy. He gives him the gut shot. Boom. Oh my God. The diverticulitis. and then here comes Will Osprey's music and he runs out with a chair and runs the heels off okay so is there going to be some kind of you know super power alignment here
Starting point is 02:14:58 the original big flashy baby face and the new big flashy baby face but then Osprey when he runs the heels off then him and Kenny have a face off and a stare down and the announcer is like oh shit and they do nothing but why would they be mad at each other
Starting point is 02:15:19 because Kenny's been gone since before Osprey got here in Japan again oh they were mad in Japan who gives a shit nobody knows that so instead of shooting an angle to tease a match with
Starting point is 02:15:41 Kenny and one of these heels managed by Don, they put the fucking the attention on the match between Kenny and the guy that just saved Kenny from getting his ass kicked by other people. Normal people watching this are going to go, what the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 02:16:04 And that was the show. I liked Omega charging Don Callas right away. That was something I didn't expect. I thought that was a nice little touch. He really hates this guy tried to stab him with a screwdriver. You should have seen the other time he tried to stab him with that old-fashioned.
Starting point is 02:16:20 But if you look at the state of AEW right now, I don't care what you have planned. If you have Kenny Omega, why wouldn't you have him come back and do a promo saying, I'm here to save the company, I'm going to end this Moxley shit, and immediately go to that and end it? Because I don't think it's going to help Kenny Omega
Starting point is 02:16:38 if that's the end goal, if he's going to be bogged down with the callus face, family again now. No one said I want Kenny Omega to return to team with Osprey against the Callas family. And you shouldn't do Osprey Omega if you have bigger plans and you got to get the belt off Moxley immediately.
Starting point is 02:16:58 So that's my thing. Do you think is it just everybody telling Tony, not everybody, but a lot of people tell Tony, we just don't want to be involved with Moxley. Just, we'll do something over here. Because you know he listens to those type of things. I think with John Moxley, it comes down to John Moxley wanting to do something with someone else and everyone else at the company it's presumed
Starting point is 02:17:17 would be involved with something with Moxley unless he didn't want to work with them. The Boer Horseman. It's the worst stable. Their fans don't care about him. Someone said, oh, you didn't hear them booing Wheeler Uta? Give me a fucking break. Yeah, here.
Starting point is 02:17:32 You're never going to convince me at this present time that Wheeler Uta is over as a heel. They resent the push he's getting because he looks like a fucking child. He has no muscle man. He has no size to him, and he's getting shoved down everyone's throat. It's not the same. It's not Dominic Mysterio Heat.
Starting point is 02:17:52 When you're at DeMacy's Parade, and from a side street comes a dump truck full of manure and blows over the fucking Smurf float and covers everybody and shit, they boo that truck, too. That doesn't mean they want to see it again. What are your thoughts, though? If you have Kenny Omega right now, the state of AEW, what would you do coming out of the game? Do you build something with him or do you try to go right to it? Well, no. They've established that he's a vice president.
Starting point is 02:18:21 They just said that. He's still one of the EVPs. That's right. That's right. So just half the company, including all of the wrestlers that have been acknowledged to be executive vice presidents in the company, are either not present or completely ignoring this fucking crazy lunatic that's trying to take over the company. So how to, and and Tony
Starting point is 02:18:47 con has yet to make any comment, right? About on the program, about Moxley or the death writer's intentions, even though when when his own EVPs gave him the fucking
Starting point is 02:19:06 flippy Melzer Piledriver on television and it is so bad that he had to wear the neck brace to the NFL drags, he was all over commenting about that, but this is a guy who doesn't even have an EVP position and a band of followers he's got trying to take over the whole company and beat up all the baby faces. Tony has nothing to say about it.
Starting point is 02:19:31 The guys who work for him either don't come to work or shows up like Kenny and doesn't even acknowledge anything's going wrong with the company. none of this makes any sense so what would I do with Ken to to draw any money with Kenny he's probably does he have anything left with that other
Starting point is 02:19:56 for the kind of audience who likes this kind of thing that's the kind of thing they'd like does he have anything left with Okada can Okada fall down four more times before he breaks in half and they teach that remember at World's End when Kenny Omega came out to present the Continental Classic Award or belt or whatever it was.
Starting point is 02:20:17 They teased everything with him and Okada again. Okay, then have that match and put Kenny over. Because he's at least something that that fan base likes that can actually produce something somewhat. But then I think you ought to pass the torch from Kenny to Osprey. I mean, you know, fuck Moxley and the whole goddamn thing, their belts worth. nobody cares to see those fucking people anyway. But again, for their audience, the only one they got left, let Osprey beat Kenny to be the new
Starting point is 02:20:52 high-flying, flippy-doo, Tokyo Dome sensation guy that they like. Because the one guy's had illness and injury and is on the downside of his career. And Osprey may have a few more years before he fucks himself up. So if they're going to do that, get, Get Osprey over. But none of it, none of the booking makes any sense from where anybody is to say, well, I'd do this with that guy.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Because then you'd have to rebook another six guys to get them to where they made any sense with them. Well, that was AEW Dynamite and one last thing from Dynamite. To complete the segment we were talking about earlier, I sent you an email, Jim, with the move I explained, I believe, as a direct shot right to the pussy. Yeah. Tell me if I'm wrong. Tell me if it's something you've seen before. What do you think?
Starting point is 02:21:46 Well, hold on here. I'm clicking on it now. It is a link of an isolated clip of just this moment. So yes, Stadlander is posing in the middle of the ring doing the double bicep when Tony Storm is laying underneath her as if in a position where if she sat up, she might be able to go to lunch. and Willow gives her the old fabulous kangaroos boomerang so her face crashes into Chris Stadlander's vaginal area. Yeah, yeah, and sock face is fucking just hilariously uproarious about it. It was inventive.
Starting point is 02:22:38 Yeah, obviously the commentator is always being goofy idiots isn't a big help, but that was AEW Dynamite. The thing is, you know, he's playing the part. And it was typecasting of some fucking teenage guy in his basement that never gets laid. Oh, look, they're hitting each other in the pussy. Jim, what do you think of the chances that Tony Khan will pay attention to some of the positive reaction to Ian Rickabani this week? Some of the positive reaction to Tony Chivani, his favorite stooge not being there, to many of the comments coming from longtime AEW supporters criticizing Excalibur,
Starting point is 02:23:16 What are the chances Tony Con will realize this is the time for a change? The odds. The odds. What are the odds? What are the odds? What are the chances I'll say the right thing? Well, it's all about the chances of the odds. And obviously, in this case, you didn't.
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Starting point is 02:27:19 additional terms and responsible gaming resources for them, cdkNG.com slash audio. That's right, the crown is yours with draft kings. Well, I need the oxygen tank right now. All right, the crown is yours. The headache is Jim's. Jim, we're going to get a few questions. The show is yours.
Starting point is 02:27:49 And stuff here on the show. And we don't have no ratings yet for speaking of shows for the dynamite. What's going on now with the slacking off of the reporting of the ratings? It has been longer than it normally is. We don't have our information yet. Yeah, I'm not sure. And again, I'm not seeing any signs yet that Max is introducing a new audience or that people are switching from TBS or TNT to Max.
Starting point is 02:28:15 So we'll see what happens. we'll stay on top of that and monitor the situation as the numbers come out. Jim, let's get some questions and stuff. This was sent to Courtney Drive-Thru at gmail.com from Dan in Wolverhampton, England. Okay. Hello, Jim. What do you make of Jeff Hardy's recent comment that he could have been bigger than John Sina if he had taken better care of his health when he was younger?
Starting point is 02:28:41 For what it's worth, I'm personally inclined to agree with Jeff. as I believe that his Google searches were approximately on par with John Senes. Around 2009, in spite of Sina being pushed far more heavily by WWE at the time. I have a link here that he sent. Here's the quote, The way I was living life in my 20s and 30s, and if I was living life the way I'm living life now, oh my gosh, there's no telling.
Starting point is 02:29:13 I would probably be bigger than John Cena today because I was born with such a gift to be a pro wrestler. It just felt so natural and like I was totally created to do this thing. And the cool thing about that is I'm still here, I still have life, and I feel good. And then apparently he talked about how him and Matt now enjoy ice baths, but... Ice baths? What are your thoughts on the idea that Jeff Hardy believes he could have been bigger than Sina, do you think that's a fair thought?
Starting point is 02:29:46 Do you think that's... What are your thoughts on you? Well, first of all, I'm going to say maybe with all that they've done to their bodies, maybe submerging them in ice is probably a beneficial thing. But no, I'm not going to trash Jeff Hardy here or Terry. He at one point was one of the hottest baby faces, if not the hottest baby face, and a company. at one, I don't know if it was that 2009 period.
Starting point is 02:30:13 I don't have my notes with me, but Jeff was a big name. And yes, I do agree with the statement Jeff made that if he had taken better care of himself, we all know what that means, then he would have been much bigger, potentially, or at least as big for longer. Would he ever have been bigger than John Sina and that last, would he ever been bigger than John Sina at, at points maybe. Would he have been bigger than John Sina in total over the last 25 years?
Starting point is 02:30:48 I'm sorry I still can't say that. Because even if Jeff had been able to be trusted at various points, if they put him in a prominent position that something wasn't going to happen, he still wasn't ever going to be the face of the company.
Starting point is 02:31:08 And like I said, hot streak aside, Cina could cut better promos Cina physically looked better Cina I know Jeff had a tremendous appeal with the youth audience and sold a lot of merchandise but over John Cina wasn't really a fad guy
Starting point is 02:31:27 he was consistent through much of his career whether the really devoted fans liked him or appreciated his work or not with the the merchandise sales, the paper view gates, the TV ratings, the whatever the metrics were at the time. So yes, was it entirely possible and maybe subject to debate that Jeff was hotter at one
Starting point is 02:31:53 point in his life than John Sina or almost anybody else? But at the same point, those points didn't last long and there wasn't the longevity. And they were never going to have Jeff Hardy out there, even physically looking like that as this is our Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, Rock, Sina, Roman Raines guy. Did I say anything inflammatory there that could be misconstrued
Starting point is 02:32:21 as being vicious to Jeff Hardy? You know, it's one of those things where how much further could he have gone if he had never had any of the issues? I don't see any way he could have been bigger than Sina other than like a momentary period of time. Yeah. I think Sina was just too,
Starting point is 02:32:39 big. I mean, look at the reactions he always got. Well, and also, let's face it, Jeff's work with the basics, and especially as he got older and was working around injuries, but it was all about the high-risk, the cool dives, the flashy outfits, the makeup, the blah, blah, blah. You can argue that John's work was the exact opposite, which was more conducive to
Starting point is 02:33:04 making money and having a long career, and that they kept him because of his importance from doing anything risky, which is why that he was still able to do this, whereas Jeff, the only way that he really could get over with his limitations in other departments was to do the risky shit, which led to, you know, all the other problems that he had. So he wasn't going to be the top guy for a long period of time. Jim, this is news that just broke over the last day or so.
Starting point is 02:33:37 the passing of Black Bart. Oh, no. It just broke with me right now. Seriously? Oh, I didn't know that you didn't know about this, yeah. No, well, it's been the snow and Harley's sick and Stacy's back and a tax time for me to get with the accountants and I haven't been looking at the internet. I saw something that indicated on the internet a few weeks ago that he had decided to give up his treatments. but I didn't know it had progressed to that point this quickly.
Starting point is 02:34:11 I'm sorry to hear that we... Black Bart spent a lot of time with me and had been out express in the car when we first started working for Crockett. But go ahead. I was going to ask you, what are your thoughts and memories of hangman Rick Harris, Black Bart, someone you were around for a period of time
Starting point is 02:34:24 and an interesting career. I think he had more in him. He didn't go as far as he could have, I think, because he just was never used the right way at times. But what are your thoughts on Black Bart? but Dusty really liked him because Dusty liked all the Western-oriented characters and Dusty used him fairly well in Florida and
Starting point is 02:34:47 for Crockett but Bart first of all was a nice guy just a big night and a big country boy and was married for years to his wife Miss Bonnie Miss Bonnie's at home waiting and you know we we rode with him a lot I've told a story before
Starting point is 02:35:05 we were in a fucking van with me and Bobby Eden and Dennis Condry and Black Bart and Buddy Landell and maybe one or two other people coming from Albany, Georgia, all the way back to Charlotte, which is like goddamn 500 miles, whatever it was. And Buddy Landell was bothering Black Bart and Blistering Black Bart verbally. And they were as opposite two personalities as you could be. and finally Buddy decided he wanted to take a nap and go to sleep
Starting point is 02:35:38 and Bart was still fuming and Bart had the boys were drinking those Miller ponies the little small Miller bottles and they were easier to piss in too when you were on a long trip and Bart pissed at one of those
Starting point is 02:35:50 Miller pony bottles and handed up to me and say pour that on Budrow I said what pour that on Budrow I said are you back here in case he gives me I'll take care of it
Starting point is 02:35:59 and I poured that on Buddy and added Bart the fucking beer bottled back and sit back and buddy woke up and was all wet he said he looked at me because i was right behind him he said jimmy did you pour water on me i said buddy i swear to god i did not pour water on you and he looked at bark well you did it at barc's well what are you going to do about and they fuss and buddy didn't realize it was piss until he got home at like six o'clock in the morning and went in his apartment and his dog started humping him but but and bart was a big fan of when we would go to Williamson, West Virginia
Starting point is 02:36:35 or some of those towns for Crockett, he was a big fan of the Hatfield and McCoy's feud. And say there, boys, right across this river, but a real nice guy, good worker, big, believable guy and could cut a great promo. And,
Starting point is 02:36:51 you know, he wasn't, he wasn't going to be the world champion of a national organization and he wasn't going to, you know, it wasn't world class. That was one of the things that happened in world class after the NW. I said a major organization. At that time, that was not it.
Starting point is 02:37:07 And he wasn't going to dress up and go out and, you know, make a big hit with the sponsors, but he was fun to be around for the boys. I hate to hear that. See, I like hangman Rick Harris better than Black Bart. To me, the name Black Bart, it was hard to take the name as serious. It was hard to, it sounded comedic like a, you know, Looney Tunes cartoon. Yeah, the first time I saw him was in 1990, I think. WWF TV as a enhancement guy.
Starting point is 02:37:36 Is that the first time you saw him? Well, you weren't really alive watching the mid-80 stuff first run, were you? There were a lot of guys that the first time I saw them around that same period of time were as enhancement guys, him, Pez-Watley, Buddy Rose, like a bunch of guys who, a decade earlier had been stars in different territories. It was a different story now. And he was in Mid-South, I think 82 as briefly as hangman Rick Harrison. and I thought he was really good there.
Starting point is 02:38:04 Yeah, and that's the thing is he was one of the guys and some of the other ones that you just mentioned that when 1988 came 89 and every place else had closed up besides Memphis, Atlanta and Vince, you know, the territories, Bart moved, you know, I don't know if he moved back to Texas.
Starting point is 02:38:25 I think he'd already been back there, but he has lived in Texas for years and years. He just became kind of a fixture of whoever was running in and around Dallas and then would, you know, try to get some shots with Vince and it would end up being TV jobs. But a lot of the guys that had been, stars on the territory level of some degree
Starting point is 02:38:48 got squeezed out when there was no more territories. Jim, on the topic of passings, any thoughts on the news that Sweet Daddy Siki passed away? Yeah, you know, we were talking, I was to was it you I came I almost talked to no one but you but uh we were talking about sweet daddy Siki and Reggie Siki not long ago maybe it was when we were the Landa's book we were talking about that either on or off the air I was not aware until sometime recently that the Reginald Siki that you would see
Starting point is 02:39:24 wrestling in the 1940s wasn't the the rookie year of this Reggie Siki who would only have been like 14 years old at that point. Sweet Daddy Siki took the name of a, one of the rare black African-American stars from the 30s and 40s, Reginald Siki. But Sweet Daddy Siki had more longevity and did more notoriety with the name. Think about it. He was one of Buddy Rogers' guys in the, what, late 50s, early 60s,
Starting point is 02:39:59 He main evented in the Northeast and the Garden in Boston, Philly. He was big in Toronto and lived there and stayed there for years and years. You know, the name pretty much got recognized all over the world because of his run during that period. And he was a country music star. And he even ended up, remember I said he ended up working Memphis, I think maybe the last territory he worked in 1987. 88 that time period he would have been 55 years old even then well he was there in it was there in 85 I think that may be what you're talking about because that may be it it didn't work out the way they wanted he came in as a heel I believe managed by tux newman Jeff walton yes yes and they were
Starting point is 02:40:46 building him up to face longer and when he got there I guess the story is they realized that 60 something or late 50 something Siki wasn't going to be a heel and he came out and did like a baby face promo. If they're building him up for weeks as a heel, he came out as like a baby face, said he had no problem with Jerry Law. I got no problem with him. But,
Starting point is 02:41:10 and also, you know, Memphis is a heavily black market and they liked black baby faces and why would you not take one of the biggest names in the history of African-American wrestlers and try to piss people off at him?
Starting point is 02:41:24 So, you know, that didn't fly for too long. But no, he was a big name. And as I said, you know, he had the bleached blonde hair like 30 years before Shelton Benjamin did it and the fancy robes and the the patter, the promo. And, but he was, what, 91? So you have to acknowledge he lived a long, full life. Well, Jim, let me get a few more topics and questions here this week. this was sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com by les winslow
Starting point is 02:42:05 these are the Korean wrestling awards now I'm sorry what well specifically the South Korean pro wrestling forum awards I guess there's a forum for the South Korean pro wrestling community well no hold on narrow this down is it a is it a forum of for South Korean pro wrestling or a forum of wrestling fans in South Korea who are watching... Do they have pro wrestling in South Korea? What the fuck is going on here? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:42:39 I've attached translator results for both best and worst. If you're curious how South Korean internet marks think of the current American product. Okay, well, there we go. So it's the South Korean fans viewing the American product. Yes, I am curious. I have the best and worst list. Do you want the best of everything or the worst of everything? Give me, let's see what they consider the best.
Starting point is 02:43:04 Best male wrestler Cody Rhodes. Okay. That's not shocking. I'm just, that's not a shocking thing to say. Best female wrestler, Liv Morgan. I agree less, but they haven't gone off the beam too far. Best team of the year, Solo Sacoa's Bloodline. Well, okay, not technically a tag team.
Starting point is 02:43:28 It's a group, but, you know, okay. Best heel of the year, solo Sokoa. They're liking the bloodline over there a lot, aren't they? I don't know if I wouldn't talk about Drew McIntyre or someone of that nature, but again. Best Babyface, Best Worker, and Best Champion of the Year, Cody Rhodes. They really like Cody. Um, best match of the year, Roman Rades versus Cody Rhodes.
Starting point is 02:44:01 Ha ha ha ha ha. WrestleMania 40. Best moment of the year, Cody Rhodes finishes the story. Okay, did Dusty ever do a South Korean tour? Best segment of the year, Rock and Roman and Cody and Seth at WrestleMania 40 kickoff. Okay. But here's some other ones. Feud of the year, best few to the year, CM Punk Drew McIntyre.
Starting point is 02:44:24 Can't argue with that. really. Best catchphrase of the year. I believe in Joe Hendry. Okay, that one came out of fucking sideways, but, well, I guess there you go. But maybe do the South Korean fans know more about American wrestling than the American wrestling fans that pick Makkah Shaka Bobby for the best wrestler? Well, this is not an outrageous list so far. Best newcomer of the year, Jacob Fatu, best mic worker CM Punk Boom
Starting point is 02:44:56 Best non-wrestler Paul Levec Can Tony Kahn get the South Koreans to book his program? Well that's I mean it keeps going on
Starting point is 02:45:05 from there Let's go to the worst list Besides a little Cody favoritism I you know You can't argue with a lot of that
Starting point is 02:45:13 Worst male wrestler John Moxley God damn They are more in tune than the American fans Worst female wrestler Mercedes Monet. Boom! What in the world?
Starting point is 02:45:28 Worst tag team of the year, the Young Bucks. Worst baby face of the year, John Moxley. Worst heel of the year, John Moxley. Worst champion of the year, IWGP champion, John Moxley. Worst worker of the year, John Moxley. Worst match of the year, Jimmy versus Jay Uso, WrestleMania. You hated that match, so. I can't disagree there.
Starting point is 02:45:53 I hated it, but I wish Moxley had had gotten a clean sweep. Worst moment of the year, John Moxley choking Brian Danielson with a plastic bag. Worst feud of the year, Brian Danielson versus John Moxley. Worst catchphrase of the year, death jitsu. John Moxley. Worst newcomer, Kazushka Okada. Worst Mike Worker of the year, Kazushka Okada. Worst non-wester of the year, Tony Katshka.
Starting point is 02:46:22 John most overrated of the year, John Moxley, most underrated of the year, Chad Gable, the, I don't know what this means, Christian Awards, Chad Gable dead from Wyatt's sixth debut, I don't know what that means. Worst move of the year? Is it because Christian is always talking about people's fathers being dead? Oh, maybe.
Starting point is 02:46:46 Something like that, maybe the translator didn't. Worst move of the year, John Moxley's Sleeper Hold? Worst gimmick of the year, John Moxley. W. W. News of the year. AEW releases all-in London security footage. Worst theme of the year, It's Our Moment, DIYs theme song. Worst brand of the year, AEW.
Starting point is 02:47:09 Worst event of the year, AEW. Wrestling Dream, 2024. Featuring John Moxley. Worst part-time wrestler of the year, Adam Cope Copeland. Worst Booker of the year, Tony Kahn. worst main event of the year, Brian Danielson versus John Moxley Russell Dream, worst face turn, Adam Cole, worst heel turn, John Moxley.
Starting point is 02:47:33 Batcha the year, Adam Page sneaks out early during Jay White versus Christian Cage on Dynamite, and finally, worst entrance, John Moxley. So what are your thoughts on the popularity of John Moxley in South Korea? Well, John, more importantly, what do you think about your popularity? I don't have any witty comebacks because I didn't know I was going to sweep the fucking awards. I'd like to thank Tony.
Starting point is 02:48:03 I'd like to thank Paxong Nam. Oh my God. For representing me in Korea. You know, they have a better handle on the wrestling business than the American fans do, unfortunately, over there in South Korea. Are these Leo Garibaldi? all these grandchildren or something? It does make you wonder
Starting point is 02:48:25 about the international thoughts of non-WWE wrestling. You know, there's a lot of parts of the world where either their first exposure to wrestling or the first wrestling that looked major league was WW, and it still is. If they're watching AEW and then you're watching a spectacle of WW,
Starting point is 02:48:46 again, it shouldn't be a surprise. They're basically voting the same way, if this is real, and I have any reason to doubt it because apparently other people have sent it too. They're voting the same way a lot of people here in the States would. Boy, I'll tell you what, they love them some Cody and they don't like no Moxley.
Starting point is 02:49:04 Well, there are the South Korean wrestling awards for... Worst lunch, anything John Moxley eats. They love Cody, they hate Moxley. Worst illness. Anything Moxley has. basically. All right, well, Jim, let's do a little from the files. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 02:49:23 I got a bunch of papers here. Let me move this. Let me move this. Did I hit the wrong thing? And then it bounced off this. I'm still connected. Let me see what I have here. This is the Dave Meltzer file.
Starting point is 02:49:38 Let's see. Oh, boy, now, from the wrestling news archives. From the wrestling news archives, for instance. This goes back pretty far. October 3rd, 1982. Dear Mr. Kiteser, I apologize for the paper noise, Jay sent everyone at home, I'm enclosing a check for $16, which you can forward to your subscription department to extend my subscription for another year to the Wrestling News Wrestling Magazine.
Starting point is 02:50:04 When he told Norman to get forwarded to his subscription department, that means Norman would put it in drawer C. That's very true. Thank you for listing my name in your recent magazine per videotape swapping. Although I haven't heard from anyone from Japan, I have made some new contacts in the U.S. By the way, I hope you could list once again that I would like to trade VHS mode videotapes with fans in Japan, St. Louis, Texas, and Louisiana. Right now I'm receiving weekly tapes from WWF, both shows, Florida, one show, Georgia, both shows,
Starting point is 02:50:45 Mid-Atlantic both shows, and AWA One Show, and can trade any of those shows with anyone who contacts me. As I wrote you earlier, I will be starting a bulletin in January 1983, and I'd like to hear from people who are interested in being correspondents. You have my name, address, etc., with an application on file. By the way, I've noticed your series on the various title histories in the magazine, I have a very complete records of the U.S. title recognized here in the Bay Area dating back to the mid-60s through 1981.
Starting point is 02:51:26 I don't know if you're interested, seeing as the title was dropped when Roy Shire stopped but I could do a very complete story on it if you're interested. The actual belt, by the way, was the oldest in existence as the same belt which was originally worn by Vern Ganya called the U.S. TV title. in the 1950s that's the same sentence in the 1950s was the same belt that Shires recognized
Starting point is 02:51:53 throughout the 60s and 70s I don't have photos of the guys with the belts so with the story however most of the champions are internationally known competitors Bill Watts
Starting point is 02:52:05 Fritz van Eric Patterson Stevens Mosca Morocco Lonnie Maine My Via Dusty Rhodes so I'm sure you have shots of most of them on file Dave is trying to spend this much time to pitch and sell Norm Kitzer on him writing an article about a defunct promotion that Norman Kiteser probably wouldn't pay more than $15 for to begin with.
Starting point is 02:52:29 But there was no way for Norman to sell any magazines in San Francisco for the Roy Shire promotion because it was already out of business. and that's why, as we've talked about, Norman wanted to put articles in his magazine about the different territories that were active that would buy magazines from him. Sincerely, Dave Meltzer, it's actually stamped David Meltzer with his address in San Jose, but he wrote Dave above David. P.S., I also have complete records from 67 to 80 of our World Tag title. And I have a response here from Jim Melby, November 30, Dear Dave,
Starting point is 02:53:11 Hi, I would be very interested in publishing a story on the old U.S. Heavyweight Championship. I'm sure we have the photos in our files of the rescuers involved for illustration purposes. There are some things I need from you first. Please read over the enclosed contract and letter of explanation. Also, I need your Social Security number
Starting point is 02:53:32 for payment purposes. If you decide to submit the story, please make sure it's typed. and double spaced. Thanks, Jim Mill. You know, they did take your Social Security number, but the thing is, nobody ever made more than $600 from that company in the course of one calendar year,
Starting point is 02:53:51 so you never actually had to report it on your taxes. Well, from January 14th, I have Dave's signed contract here. Dear Norman, enclosed is a debut issue of our publication, Wrestling Observer. or I should say Observor O-B-S-E-R-V-O-R I've filled out the application
Starting point is 02:54:12 I'll be putting out a monthly publication but would like to warn you ahead of time that our publication date is the 20th of each month this issue is coming out early, so to speak, just for future reference. The price is 150 per copy or $5 for four issues. As the bulletin gets more popular,
Starting point is 02:54:32 I will actually lower the price. But for the next four issues, the price will stay at this rate. This is why I'm only accepting subscriptions up to four issues. I wasn't particularly satisfied with this issue, although I do feel it's a damn good debut issue. Things will definitely pick up in the next issue,
Starting point is 02:54:54 and coincidentally, I'm pretty sure by April that this will be the best bulletin going. Wait, do you see where we are in 40? years. Thanks for your help. Yours in wrestling. Dave Meltzer, editor. And I have a signed contract here. So he's always been humble. I guess you can look at it that way. I guess so. What is a lot of stuff here? There's a lot here more than I thought would be here. So bear with me for a moment. Writing to pitch stories. Did you ever have to do that? No. I did. It's basically. the idea, as I said, was that
Starting point is 02:55:36 Norm Kaiser sold all the magazines to the promotions who would then turn around and resell them in the arenas. So the more content there was on the Memphis guys, the more that they would sell in the Memphis territory. That's why Norman did different editions. There would be the main wraparound of the magazine that would have some stories that everybody would get, but there would be the NWA East edition
Starting point is 02:56:01 where it was primarily for the NWA territories in the east or NWA West was out in Texas or the AWA edition. He even did a stranglehold edition for Bruiser's WWA just in the state of Indiana, maybe Chicago. But I would just, when I got some pictures or had an idea to write a story on one of the top guys in the territory or somebody new coming in,
Starting point is 02:56:28 I'd just write it, put the pictures in, and send it to it. and he'd run it because Taney told him to run shit about the wrestlers in the territory so she could sell more books. I never pitched anything. All right, I have another letter here. This is after that first one I read back from Jim Melby, November 30th, 1982 from Meltzer.
Starting point is 02:56:49 Dear Jim, received your letter the other day. Thanks for the prompt reply. Also, much thanks for your listings for the awards. I'll keep them in the strictest of confidence. Jim Melby sent in his submission for the Observer Awards. I'll be sending you our yearbook in late January. I'm pretty excited about putting together a bulletin once again. That's fine about sending programs in exchange for it.
Starting point is 02:57:18 One more thing. If you ever want to do stories concerning activities in Japan, I'm sure I could do a good job in that area. I have traveled there in the past and have a decent knowledge of the language. and from this area I do receive videotapes of all the TV shows and many clippings and magazines through friends in that country. I don't know how regularly you receive photos from Koichi and any of the others,
Starting point is 02:57:48 but I can write stories about the various feuds and matches from that area. I think that an interesting article concerned the feud between Anoki and Fujianami versus Russia-Kamora, Anna Mohamaguchi, and Isamil, Teranashi. Lots of interesting twists and a very wild bout, not to mention good crowds, have resulted from that. Aside from that, the only real major things going on are the tag tournaments, and I'm sure you're aware of that. I also heard that Anoki and Shinma had bought out LaBelle's promotion in Los Angeles. Oh, good Lord. But have yet to hear if they are promoting any shows or anything else, I am sure you know more about that situation than I do. Please keep in
Starting point is 02:58:31 touch Dave Meltzer. Some things never changed, do they? That's one of the earliest, I guess, examples of Dave trying to pitch his expertise in Japanese wrestling. I mean, there weren't a lot of people in America. I would have to think until videotapes that could monitor what was happening there properly. Yeah, well, and also, I wonder how many issues of the wrestling news that Norm Kiteser was
Starting point is 02:58:54 selling over in Japan. But that, you know, that's the thing is that, that. The Wrestling News magazine covered a variety of eclectic things that the London publishing, the Bill After magazines, didn't cover because Apter and under instructions from, you know, the corporate hierarchy, they wanted to put on the cover the NWA champion or Bruno or Masqueras or somebody national that was going to sell magazines or blood, you know, sometimes or whatever. and most of the articles were the big geographic territories with the major population centers.
Starting point is 02:59:38 WWF, AWA, Georgia because of TBS, etc. And so Norman filled a niche that the newsstand magazines didn't fill that, you know, he would cover the... There'd be something from Amarillo, for heaven's sake, you know, and they were underrepresented. Well, here's a letter from Norman Kiteser to Dave Meltzer, as it says here, David Meltzer, July 21st, 1987. I have written to you several times, along with the complimentary copies of the wrestling news I've been sending you, but I have not heard from you in over a year now. Well, so Dave was all fucking sweetness and light, sunshine, lollipops, rainbows, and waterfalls when he was trying to get printed, but now a few years later, he don't want to hear from his,
Starting point is 03:00:29 buddy Norman. Possibly the address I had was wrong, as I got a notice from the post office today that the last issue of the wrestling news that I sent you was forwarded to the address I am sending this letter to. At one time, when I started to curtail the publishing schedule
Starting point is 03:00:46 of the wrestling news, I sent you payment to make sure that you continued to send me your newsletter. That was over two years ago. At that time, you wrote me that I didn't need to send you payment, Because you would continue to send me the newsletter because my plugs in the wrestling news are what helped you get it started in the first place.
Starting point is 03:01:07 And because I was continuing to give you free advertisements in it. I guess you changed your mind, which I can understand. But I have written to you several times saying I would like to be a paid subscriber and receiving no reply. Nor am I even sure I have your correct address at this time. Whatever the case, I am in hopes that this will reach you, and I've included a postage paid envelope so that you can write me back,
Starting point is 03:01:38 and let me know the cost of getting to be a paid subscriber to your newsletter. Thank you, Norman Kiteser. Oh, man, here you can't even fucking back out of it because I didn't send a stamp. Here's a stamp self-addressed envelope. Well, I wonder what happened to drive a rift into their relationship. It appears someone has made a mistake, too, in the middle of the Meltzer file of a bunch of pictures of Sam Menaker. Let me put these.
Starting point is 03:02:07 Someone filed wrong before it got to me, ladies and gentlemen. Going through a bunch of these papers here as they pop up. November 4th, 1985, Dear Dave, below is a copy of your advertisement as it will appear in the wrestling news number 120. Please let us know right away if you want any changes in the wording of it. otherwise it will go in just this way. Also, always let us know if you want any changes in the future issues for your advertisement other than updating as far as new material received. And then it has his plug here.
Starting point is 03:02:43 And at that time, what was it? Dave Meltzer, Turlock, California, sent us four issues of his Wrestling Observer newsletter during the past two months. He doesn't promise an exact schedule, but it appears that it comes out. about twice a month. Each of these four newsletters contain eight letter-sized pages packed with news, results,
Starting point is 03:03:06 inside information, and opinions on the major promotions. Dave charges $5 for a four-issue subscription. I thought he was going to lower that price when it took off. He also asks that we mentioned that he has videotapes and he charges $2 for a copy of his 50-page VHS tape listing
Starting point is 03:03:24 of more than 500 hours. of main event matches. You know, you forget about that, the idea that it wasn't as simple as, hey, you have a tape, I'll have a tape, let's trade. Sometimes it was, but you had to get catalogs, you had to look through things, you had to have a conversation to pick out what you wanted. Someone wanted a compilation tape, that was a big pain in the ass.
Starting point is 03:03:44 Oh, a pain in the ass. Any thoughts on any of this? Yes, it was a pain in the ass. That's why Weasel Dooley was doing all of my duplication at that point. I was on the road. he was making the uh he was culling it down into what i needed to see and sending it off to me at that point a lot of interviews from the a wa program but um poor dave it seems that he he's left a trail of broken relationships everywhere he goes here's a checkmailed the dave melzer for fifty dollars
Starting point is 03:04:18 december 26 1987 right after christmas campbell california from norman kiteser above check is for a 50 issue subscription to your newsletter. I haven't received an issue since last month. What? So I assume I am off... He was cutting this son of a bitch off right. He said no grace period whatsoever. So I assume I am off your accomplice again.
Starting point is 03:04:45 I want to get the newsletter, so I am subscribing. Encloses a copy of my latest issue number 124 with your free ad in it. Also a copy of the ad I plan to run... and issue 125, which I'm working on now. And there's a check for $50, a copy of it. What of no good, he's running free ads for Dave and having to send checks to subscribe for a year because Dave won't send him his shit.
Starting point is 03:05:12 And it appears this right here is this the U.S. title story? Here's a letter from Dave Meltzer to Jim Melby, February 11th, 1983. Dear Jim, got your letter last week, and always interesting hearing from you. agree with most of your comments, particularly about the Japanese wrestling. I enjoy anoki's group, particularly the junior heavies, the best also. And noki's success in the box office shows also. These are written really poorly.
Starting point is 03:05:42 Really, he has by far a better group of Japanese wrestlers in his stable, which is the main difference as both groups books similar number of quality Americans. As I think I told you, I'm familiar with the Georgia problems, but I'm a lot of I don't know the reason. I do know people who see them live don't seem to like the promotion nearly as well as the people from out here who only know of them through the cable. To the fans out here, it seems the Georgia promotion is like the ideal promotion, so to speak. Other things may be good, but nothing can compare with Georgia. Although I don't know the reasons, I will assume that you're right in saying, if they live there, they wouldn't hold the same a
Starting point is 03:06:26 opinion. So let's stop there for a second because Georgia TV was on cable and you could see it in different places. This is 1983, February 83. This was really the beginning years of World Championship wrestling being seen nationwide. People in other places thought it was great because it was different than their wrestling. At the same time, people in Georgia were rejecting it. Well, and that's true.
Starting point is 03:06:50 And with a lot of places where they got over in the Sheik's old territory, Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, not only had, as we've talked about, many times that had been dead and she could stop running, but the product, the last few years of his promotion was just horrible in-ring. Everybody was 80 years old. Or, you know, let's face it, Vern had major names and stars, but they were all old. And he didn't have a lot of action in his territory because it had been built that way and he didn't have competition. But when they see the Freebirds in Georgia, all this new young talent and an NWA-style promotion with a ring that wasn't made out of concrete and guys taking bumps and cutting these wild promos that appealed to Roy Shire's promotion had gone out of business a couple years before in Northern California. And it had been on its ass for a couple of years before that.
Starting point is 03:07:52 So where there wasn't a strong promotion or a strong youthful promotion, the Georgia TV was the thing everybody had to see. But in the state of Georgia, where they had not only been used to that style and that method of presentation, but every major name in the NWA had been in there regularly for the previous 10 years, they were. harder to fucking please and Oli's booking at that time that 1983 period guys were going to Japan and he'd just fucking they'd be off and then they'd come back
Starting point is 03:08:33 it was kind of like Tony Kahn's booking you'd see them then you wouldn't see them and things wouldn't make sense and phantom title changes and well the road warriors are here but goddamn last month it was a completely different team and somebody else was champion
Starting point is 03:08:49 and it just it was a mess in Georgia where they had been watching it weekly and going to the live matches weekly for years and years and years. That was the summer. We went to Georgia from Tennessee, me and Dundee and the Georgia wrestling superstars because the state of Georgia, every town was on its ass. Columbus, Macon, Knoxville, Chattanooga, August. Georgia. Nothing was drawn because they'd burn it out and it didn't make sense.
Starting point is 03:09:31 Well, back to this letter from day February 11th, 1983, most people who get videos from everywhere seem to say that Memphis has the best TV show. I know they get incredible ratings, but I never liked the show. It was always a little too uncontrolled for my taste.
Starting point is 03:09:50 Uncontrolled for my taste. They certainly get more mileage out of their talent than any other group I've seen. My favorite show is also Mid-South, which combined an interesting and somewhat unpredictable hour with at least some first-rate wrestling, although I'm disappointed in their hero side, with Staggerly and two. Their hero side.
Starting point is 03:10:13 Let's remember, ladies gentlemen, Dave was a stone cold mark at one point, didn't even know the lingo. You know, Dave has always pointed to this exact. that when he used to have a problem and when you guys would even try to talk about it about Dave's changing thoughts on all this, he would point out that there were wrestlers who hated Memphis wrestling, that they thought it was Lou Thess or who, who did he say, Harley or Thess, I forget who it was, guys who all ended up working there, Thess ended up opening a promotion at Nashville, but it was like guys looked down on Memphis
Starting point is 03:10:48 wrestling. This is the first time I've ever read Dave say he. He looked down on Memphis wrestling. Well, see, it always comes back to what Dave felt, and then Dave tried to find people that agreed with the way that he felt. But the guys looked down on the Tennessee territory more because of the payoffs, especially because Nick Goulis had set that precedent. But Jerry Jarrett wasn't going to go hungry at the expense of taking care of a wrestler. And the guys didn't mind working there except for a Luthelthel.
Starting point is 03:11:22 who had somewhat, you know, high standards. But it was the money, not the style of the wrestling. And Dave didn't get that. They would knock it just because they didn't want to come out and say, well, I didn't make any money there. They'd say, ah, it's a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, and I didn't make any money doing bullshit. Other people made money doing bullshit,
Starting point is 03:11:45 so they must be better than I am. And by the way, for the record, attached to this letter, which is a little more, too. A copy of the check sent to Dave Meltzer San Jose for the U.S. title history used in number 93. How much did he make for that article? $35. Okay, I said 15. I was undercutting it.
Starting point is 03:12:04 I'm quite interested in how WWF draws next month in L.A. AWA may get a good crowd on March 5th in San Francisco. I've heard a decent amount of comment about Lawler, plus Hogan v. Ventura has been very well promoted. Here's my social security number. I'll be sending you my bulletin. What is that? Can you read that?
Starting point is 03:12:25 I am not going to do that. That is not allowed. I'd be most interested in programs from Mid-South, with Southwest and any AWA programs that aren't sold in this area, also of interest. Don't know your publication frequency, but we often have shows every six weeks. So I may not see all your issues of the AWA program. I really enjoyed the Japanese wrestling the most because it was so unique.
Starting point is 03:12:54 I treated in such a high-class manner, et cetera. I have tired of Abdullah and Singh's antics, although at first they were great. Sometimes, when they don't have good Americans, Baba's show is just tough to watch because it doesn't have the first-rate Japanese wrestlers. And Nochi's Japanese villains make his show almost never tiresome,
Starting point is 03:13:19 although they abuse that double countout ending a little too much. That's all for now. Keep in touch, Dave Meltzer. You know, the Japanese TV shows in 19... I first started seeing them 1980. 80, 81, 82, 83, they were incredible, and we've talked about... You saw not only the best Americans,
Starting point is 03:13:41 which Baba had the best Americans, and then his top Japanese two or three guys were okay, and then it dropped. Or Inoki was stuck with only having mostly WWF guys, but he also brought in the Mark Roccos and the guys from England and it had more international flavor. It was a great show to watch wrestling matches, and you got to see, like we never got to see,
Starting point is 03:14:09 goddamn Ricky Steamboat on television, in Kentucky, but we got to see it on tape from Japan or Nick Bockwinkle or the Funk Brothers or every top American and the matches were good to great. But when I was watching, I was like, this great, I'm getting to see, I liked, obviously Tiger Mask was a thing
Starting point is 03:14:35 and Dynamite Kid was crazy, but as far as the Japanese talent, Inoki was good. We knew Baba, you know, was, passed it at that point. And Nochi had an aura about him, and his guys seemed like they wrestled harder, but there was an element of interchangeability. And there was also no promos, no interviews.
Starting point is 03:14:58 So you liked being able to see the American wrestlers and the top stars that you hoped one day you'd get to see live or in your own territory, and wow, this match. You know, Dory versus Terry going 56 minutes. was a curiosity that you enjoyed seeing, but... Didn't live up to the hype. When you saw the pictures and heard they wrestled each other, I don't know what I expected when I eventually saw that years after the fact, but it wasn't the match I saw.
Starting point is 03:15:26 Well, and they had to put Dory over, even though Terry was the more exciting at that point, because seniority. Dory was the, you know, the more well-respected guy because he came first. But point being, you got to see all that stuff, but it didn't replace Memphis wrestling or Mid-South wrestling, or Mid-Atlantic wrestling where you'd have a Rick Flair
Starting point is 03:15:45 or Jerry Lawler or a junkyard dog or fucking whoever coming out and cutting promos and the personal issues and the angles and the fuck finishes to build a stipulations that was what I liked about wrestling
Starting point is 03:15:59 and then you know when you watch the Japanese tapes which I still have every single one I have a tape of every Baba and Anoki show from 1980 through 1992 or so the matches were great but you also you wanted to I always liked
Starting point is 03:16:16 seeing the American guys go against people you never got to see them work with that you know Nick Bockleinkle wrestle some other great talent that only wrestled for Crockett never went to work for Vern or whatever that was the appeal of the and also
Starting point is 03:16:34 Japanese wrestling is the only place then anywhere you got to see main event arena matches which was wild and off the charts as far as holy macro, look what they're doing. So there was an appeal to it, but at no time did I or anybody that was watching or viewing it with me, Norman Dooley or whoever think that that program or that promotion could replace Memphis wrestling in Memphis or the Crockett's in the Carolinas or whatever,
Starting point is 03:17:08 it was a curiosity from Japan that was cool to watch on video but it wouldn't fly here and nobody ever thought that except Dave well this is going to be the end of part one from the files Dave Meltzer because I have a long, long back and forth here I have found and he do love to type don't he
Starting point is 03:17:29 well this is from 1984 it's pages and Norm Kiteser's reply of him having issues with Norm Kiteser's reporting and when he's reading and someone else's publication. So we'll get to that next time on for the, not for the files, from the files.
Starting point is 03:17:45 What a tease. Dave's first foray into anti-social behavior. Jim, if Norm Kiteser felt he got ripped off, if he felt I'm sending this guy money, and I'm not getting the subscription, I'm giving him free advertising, and I'm not getting any issues of the observer.
Starting point is 03:18:03 And if he didn't have the music queued up, also, he would probably sue. Yes, he would, and I'll tell you who he would go to. He would go to the man, the myth, the legend, the man that could spring into action and lay waste to the evildoers. That man himself is Stephen P. New. That's right, and as I said, the music isn't queued up, so... I thought you'd have time to Cusick the music.
Starting point is 03:18:31 I thought you'd have time to Cusick the music. cue the music. Regardless, even if you can't carry a tune in a bushel basket, you can go to new law office.com or you can call 87750 Steve, and the man will come running
Starting point is 03:18:50 on riding a white horse with a lance or a sword or one of those the jousting stick and he will knock the black night off his horse and restore your justice to you and made Marion in a court of law
Starting point is 03:19:07 and then eat a turkey leg. He's the knight in shining armor of the legal profession. Stephen P.new, new law office.com, 87750, Steve. Cue that music quicker next time. We will have it ready next time. They know him all over the place. They know him very well in California.
Starting point is 03:19:27 They may be knowing him really well in St. Louis soon, but Stephen P. Newlawfew, the man for you, new lawoffice.com. St. Louis, and Tokyo is next. He's going to chase Dave Meltzer wherever he's been. 8775-0, Steve. Jim, before we wrap things up, let's do dynamite ratings.
Starting point is 03:19:45 Ah, you got them in! We got them in, and again, last week I think, I don't have it in front of me, I believe. Actually, I do, it was 588 last week, which was not an outrageous number. It was in line with the trend. What they've been doing, we didn't see any attrition over to net, not Netflix,
Starting point is 03:20:03 but to Max Max Flix. Max Flix. It was about the same number, give or take, as they've been doing on the cable. AEW Dynamite, Jim, on TBS, Wednesday, January 8th,
Starting point is 03:20:15 8 to 10.05 p.m. On average, 615,000 viewers. Well, they got back over 600,000 for the first time in quite some time. Do what, are there about, to what,
Starting point is 03:20:32 30 or 35, thousand twinkle-toes fans that wanted to see him return or what do they attribute this to? Well, let's see what kind of story of the quarters tell. These were not compiled by WrestleMania. I got these from an independent source. Jim Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m. Will Osprey versus Buddy Matthews, 732,000 viewers. Okay, and that, as I recall, that's up.
Starting point is 03:21:03 Isn't it from their starting point? Because they started lower last week. I believe they did. Quarter two, 815, 8.30 p.m., the continuation of Osprey versus Matthews, the post-match, the private party-hert Syndicate confrontation,
Starting point is 03:21:20 and the start of Bobby Lashley versus Mark Briscoe is a picture and picture in there somewhere. 623,000 viewers. Ouch, okay, and immediately there goes 109,000. thousand. So we're following the normal pattern. And again, with the normal idea that quarter two is the truer number than quarter one with a lead in, that's kind of the baseline, which is up a little bit from where they've been, quite frankly. Yeah. Quarter three, eight-thirty to eight-forty
Starting point is 03:21:49 PM, continuation of Lashley versus Briscoe, the beginning of the casino gauntlet match. Picture and picture and commercial breaks here in this segment. Five hundred and fifty-five thousand viewers. Boy, how, I was going to, that casino gauntlet will kill anything. And now they've lost a hundred and seventy-seven thousand or thereabouts, but now they've got to pick up something or they won't be able to make their average. So who's going to make the difference here? We got a quarter four. Once again, the continuation of casino gauntlet, two times of picture and picture,
Starting point is 03:22:27 573,000 viewers. So 20,000 or so. variation and that thing took forever. All right, quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m. The continuation of the casino gauntlet, the postmatch, where Powerhouse Hobbs told Renee what he thinks of her husband that she walked off,
Starting point is 03:22:53 the hook patriarchy video, and the beginning of the Jeff Jarrett MJF confrontation, 658,000 viewers. Wow. So they picked up a 85,000 at the top of the hour in a place where they usually stay flat or even lose. That's right. We go now at quarter six, 915 and 9.30 p.m. Continuation of Jeff Jarrett and MJF Live Angle.
Starting point is 03:23:26 The Adam Cope, I guess I got to call him Cope. the Cope, Death Riders, FTR Powerhouse Hobbs live angle. Live angle. It's a dead angle. 614,000 viewers. What a commercial break in there too. Excuse me. And they're starting to drop again.
Starting point is 03:23:45 So MJF and Jeff Jarrett were on for the majority of the second highest quarter after the lead-in of this whole fiasco. We go now to quarter seven, 930 to 9. 45 p.m. The backstage segment you love so much with Harley Cameron and Mariah May and Chris Statlander versus Tony Storm versus Willow Nightingale,
Starting point is 03:24:10 picture and full-screen commercials. 594,000 viewers. And they're going down again, but to be honest, nowhere near the drop off a cliff that they usually have at the end of one of these programs because 594 is still only the third lowest quarter in the in the show so far.
Starting point is 03:24:34 And we'll briefly talk about the key demo numbers after this because it tells a story as well. Quarter eight, I remind you we have a five-minute overrun. 9.45 to 10 p.m., continuation of the women's match. Renee, backstage with Tony Storm, and the start of the Kenny Omega interview, 575,000 viewers. five-minute overrun, including the Don Callis family and Will Osprey, 606,000 viewers.
Starting point is 03:25:06 The key demo, 267, 218, bottoms out at 1-99, 202, 238, 229, 236, 250. So it actually rose throughout the second hour. So, besides the fact that
Starting point is 03:25:26 MJF and Jeff Jarrett was involved in the middle of the show, they stuck around to see what Kenny was going to have to say for himself, didn't they? Because they always lose in incredible numbers, especially when there's a girls match that late. But this time for the people who like that kind of thing, there's 575,000 or 594,000 or 600 to 660,000. 6,000, they want to see what what kiddie's going to do.
Starting point is 03:26:00 And again, a little bit of a bump in the key demo. It's interesting, the key demo, 18 to 49, the Kenny overrun, for instance, 250,000 viewers, 18 to 34, 73,000. So it's still 34 to 49. It's carrying the professional wrestling. Carrying the business, that's right. Jesus Christ. Well, those were the dynamite ratings, and we still have so much.
Starting point is 03:26:26 much stuff, but we've run along, and we're going to call it here, Jim, we've run, we've recorded a lot of audio this week. And we're coming back in two more days, do it again. That's right. Any final words, any closing thoughts here on the drive-thru? Yes, I'm done. Say bye-bye. All right, for Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian last.
Starting point is 03:26:45 Let me play us off. Hold on. All right. We'll be on the experience with all the usual plugs and everything else. For Jim Cornynett, I'm the great Brian last. Tally-ho!

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